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I'm Christine.
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And I'm Christina.
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In 2024, I moved to Texas from LA.
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And to keep in touch, Christine and I started a weekly game where we each pick a song that fits a chosen theme.
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This game deepened our understanding of each other and the songs that shape us, inspiring the podcast you're listening to now.
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Each week we share our pics, swap stories, and dig into tracks you might love and a lot of the time have never heard of.
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Welcome to Stereo Thematica, your favorite atypical music podcast.
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Christine, when you talk about this podcast with people who have never listened to it before, what do you tell them it's about?
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Are you vague or explicit?
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I think I'm explicit.
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I say this is a podcast where two friends every other week share a theme and each pick a song that meets the theme.
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Is that explicit enough?
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That is extremely I've done it like I have an elevator pitch.
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Do you know what I say?
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What?
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I have a music podcast.
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And that's it.
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That's it.
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I love we are so yin and yang.
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I know that this is like so spot on for us.
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That's funny.
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Well, because I'm trying to gauge what people will react, like how they'll react if I'm like, I have a music podcast, and then they're like, What?
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Like, are you a musician?
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Right.
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What are you doing?
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Are you what gives you the right?
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Yeah, who are you?
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You're a woman.
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Yeah.
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That's really funny.
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Yeah.
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And I do think it says a lot about us.
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Uh-huh.
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Of course, like who we are, but I usually like to see if somebody's gonna be interested in what I would say next before I give them the elevator pitch.
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And and are you getting people not asking follow-up questions?
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Because I hate that.
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I'm just putting that out in the world right now.
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Ask follow-up questions, people for all kinds of stuff.
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For everything.
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Yeah, it doesn't have to be.
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Don't worry, you're not prying.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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There.
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I'm glad I got that out.
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Good.
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I also was wondering if you picked up on what I'm putting down with this theme.
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Being explicit.
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Yes, I got that.
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Do you think I hooked anybody who might have thought we were talking about dirty stuff?
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Well, I mean, after our last episode or the horny.
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Yeah, the horny episode.
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That was a real bait and switch.
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Yes.
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We do that a lot on stereothematica.
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I think we got a lot of new downloads from different parts of the world.
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Oh, yeah, I think so, for sure.
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I don't mind.
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But I wonder if they listened to the entire episode.
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I do want to clarify I don't think our songs are explicit in in the sense of they're NC17.
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They're more Hey, I'm explicitly telling you what this song's gonna be about.
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And I think it's so funny when artists will say exactly what the song's going to be about before they really start singing anything.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, and what I told you specifically was this is a song about blank.
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Yeah.
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And then they give you a little flimsy line, you know, to set up the story.
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And sometimes they're not as explicit, right, Christine?
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I think you had a song that you wrestled with.
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Oh yeah.
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So this was actually the second time I wanted to choose this song.
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Let me give it away.
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I probably will use it at some point, but Bob Dylan's Hurricane from his album Desire, wonderful song, eight and a half minutes about the black boxer Reuben Hurricane Carter.
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And he was wrongfully convicted of triple murder.
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And eventually in 1985, it was overturned.
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But Bob starts, I mean, he he sets it up, but then he says, Here comes the story of the hurricane.
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Hell yeah.
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And then he gets into the story of the hurricane for another eight minutes.
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Yeah.
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Which is also so funny for Bob Dylan to be doing that.
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Here comes the story of the hurricane.
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Yeah.
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You're already singing about it, Bob.
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No, it's it's it's kind of adorable.
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Now, I think I should probably just bring this up right now, get it out of the way.
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He does use the N-word in the song, which was part of my hesitation for sharing it the first time and this time.
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Obviously, with Bob, there is context, but still, I don't think he would have used that word today.
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It's anyway.
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I challenge that.
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I don't think he would have used it.
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I think he knows better.
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But anyway, I feel like I think his producers would probably tell him not not anymore, Bob.
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Yeah.
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So that time is fast.
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Wait, what year did you say that song came out?
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Um, that was 76 on desire.
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It was a different time.
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Different time.
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Uh no, I don't I don't believe in the different time thing.
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I do think it's it's touchy, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, for sure.
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Especially for a white guy from Minnesota to be using the hard R N-word.
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Yeah, no.
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So anyway.
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Well, now that we got that out of the way, what do you think when songs say exactly what they're going to talk about before they even get into the song?
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I don't think it bothers me.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think I I mean, I feel like you get it a lot at concerts.
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Oh, yeah.
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So if you're used to that, it's like, okay, they're just doing it on the album too.
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It's it's not that big of a deal.
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I kind of I I like the clarity.
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I do it's funny because like in books, literature, movies, television, I prefer subtext.
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But I don't think I do in songs.
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In songs, I like it all out there.
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I like the explicitness.
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That is really funny because I'm not, I don't know.
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One I one way or another, I think it could it could make her it's not gonna make her break a song.
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Uh-huh.
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It's going to just give a little extra that you maybe don't need, is my opinion.
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But I actually really like the flimsy ones.
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So I don't think you're gonna know this song, but maybe some of our listeners were as well.
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Brittany Spears told us this is a story about a girl named Lucky.
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Do you know that song?
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I don't I don't think so.
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Okay.
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It's called Lucky, and it's like, she's so lucky.
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Anyway, the irony, uh-huh, her luck, aka fame, was a curse, and it was a very thinly veiled uh story of Britney Spears' own life.
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And this happened before she shaved her head.
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Oh poor Britney.
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There's also that extremely annoying song that opens with, This is the story of a girl.
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Do you know that one?
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I don't well.
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Oh my god, what planet do you live on?
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I know Pulowski.
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I know that some of our listeners will know that one.
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It is so freaking annoying.
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I had to Google it to find the band and the song name.
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Never heard of them.
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It's an awful.
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I will actually call this one a terrible earworm because that line.
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Yeah, anytime I hear someone be like, This is, and I'm like, the story of a girl.
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Like, cause it probably had to be that you were there like when it was really on the radio, which wins probably when I was in like middle or high school.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, can't remember.
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I don't think K Crw was playing it.
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Girl, no, they were not.
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They were not.
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But if you've ever heard speaking of concerts, the 1977 live recording of Rhiannon by Fleetwood Mac at the forum.
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I have yeah, I know the song, obviously.
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But yeah, it's a it's a good recording, it's faster than I would expect.
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But at the very beginning, Stevie says, This is a song about a witch.
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Oh, yeah, which I love.
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Do you like Rihannon?
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I do, yeah.
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It's such a chance.
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It's good, yeah.
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It's so good.
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I wish it were acceptable for this theme because I would have chosen that.
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Oh, but it's not because it's not in the original lyrics.
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Okay.
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But I I will link to that song.
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And then I know you're gonna love this one, Bobby McFerrin's Don't Worry, Be Happy, which opens with, Here's a little song I wrote, and it's so bad.
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I know you don't love it.
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No, not a huge fan.
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Somebody out there loves it, but it is toxic positivity, and I reject that.
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So I'm starting off by sharing all of these bad tunes because I am trying to make a point.
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And that point is this is a lazy vehicle for songwriting and storytelling.
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Okay.
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I disagree that artists need to do this to tell us anything we need to know about a song because just let us listen to the lyrics, let us feel it.
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Yeah.
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Create our own meeting.
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Why are you hitting us over the head with it?
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Fair enough.
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It's interesting that we are on opposite sides of the coin on this one.
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And and now that you put it like that, I mean, it's not that I need to have that.
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I just don't mind it.
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How amazing would it be if you were like, I need every song.
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No, I don't want that.
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That would be weird.
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But I feel like every once in a while it's like, it's kind of cute.
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It's kind of like, oh, you're getting it's a little more intimate.
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I do, uh, and I'm walking back a little bit because sometimes, you know, and like I feel like in country, like kind of the more classic country, they'll be like, this is a song I wrote about, you know.
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And I'm like, yeah, I love that.
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Love, love the storytelling opening.
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Okay.
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Anyway, all of this is to say I did pick a song that I do like.
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Um because as soon as you'll hear it, it's nothing serious.
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Yeah.
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So let's listen.
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My pick for explicit.
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Here's An On and On by Janet Jackson from the 1995 album Janet Remixed.
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Besides, this is a song about summertime.
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May it never end.
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Yeah.
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May it never end.
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This is a summer of love as a lover goes.
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Oh no, and on and on.
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I'm not a hater.
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I'm not truly hating this trope.
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I do think it's funny, but this is why I love what Janet did here.
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Uh-huh.
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She says this is a song about summertime.
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May it never end.
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She clearly didn't live in Houston, Texas, where I am ready to melt.
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And probably most of my insides have already melted because summer really does go on and on here.
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Yeah.
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But in actuality, there's no indication that the song is actually about summertime.
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She's just saying that.
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I think she is saying the feeling goes on and on and on.
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And like maybe if I lived in Los Angeles with which I have endless summer, right?
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Yeah.
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Not really.
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It does get away.
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No, I mean it gets nice.
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But yeah.
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But I feel like what she's trying to say is like the feeling of summer is so great that she doesn't want it to stop.
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Well, I mean, you can kind of relate to that.
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Like summer, lots of concerts, lots of like outside time with friends.
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There's some time with friends.
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It's it's nice.
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It's things slow down a bit with work.
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It's it's a better time.
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It's not temperature-wise.
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I like all of the sunlight.
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That's for damn sure.
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I like the sun setting late.
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Yep.
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It's just so hot here.
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It's so hot.
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I live in a cursed place.
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But Janet, if I were in LA, ooh, I would be so there, so right there with you, top down in the car next to your sweetie, just that blissful feeling.
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Pure, fun, smooth jams on the radio.
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I do think people agreed with Janet too, because as a single, this song reached number two on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1994 and eventually reached number 30 on the year-end chart.
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Do you remember this song?
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Honestly, I don't.
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I I was never really a Janet fan.
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More more Michael.
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What about Scream?
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Scream?
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Yeah.
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No.
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Wait, isn't that what it was called?
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I don't the one where Janet and Michael were it had such video.
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Oh no, I don't even.
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Oh my god.
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Listener, if you're screaming like I am, scream.
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Okay.
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I'm gonna have to send you the video out as soon as we stop.
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Don't let me forget.
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Okay.
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That's such a jam.
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Anyway, I vaguely remember this song from my childhood.
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Like I just was like, oh yeah, this is kind of unlocking something in me.
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But I do think when we're, you know, talking about this song in particular, it's not quite an earworm like we were talking about in our last episode.
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But it has this like incredible repetitiveness.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And it's kind of like weirdly soothing.
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Uh-huh.
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Cause like, you know how we were talking about with the earworms.
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If I get a song stuck in my head and I'm like laying awake at night, I could just like say, and on and on and on and on over and over until I fall asleep.
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Yeah.
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And I'm on meds now.
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But maybe that's not bad.
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Yeah, no, I'm just I'm saying it's a good thing.
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It helps you go to sleep.
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Yeah.
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And like even the male vocalist who I couldn't figure out who it was.
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I like looked everywhere trying to figure it out.
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His repetitive singing doesn't even bother me because it's like a little bit more intense than hers, which is like really like peaceful and smooth.
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Yeah.
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But there is a part of the song that actually made me laugh out loud when I was listening to it while prepping.
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And let me play it real quick.
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Okay.
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She goes, damn, this is a long song.
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Yeah.
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It's so funny.
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And that's what I was thinking right about the time she says it.
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It's funny because, like, when you're listening to it, or at least for me, I didn't think it was long, but it is almost five minutes long, which is pretty long for a pop song.
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Yeah.
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And longer than I think, you know, probably some of her other songs are.
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And I also did a little bit of Reddit Lurking because the Janet fans out there really love this one.
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Uh-huh.
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And it was actually released as a B-side.
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So it didn't even get as much airplay as some of the other songs.
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And doesn't she call that out at the beginning too?
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Yes, she said this is a B side.
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Or I think she just goes B side, which is very explicit.
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Good point.
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Like, absolutely love that.
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But when you think about like, so even though this one made it to number three on Billboard, think about that's the way love goes.
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Yeah.
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Do you remember that one?
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No.
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It's from '93.
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It was very single from Janet.
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And it went double platinum in the ears.
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Okay.
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Do you remember when we were on Who Will Save Gen X?
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Yes.
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And how much I sucked when we were doing the fill in the blanks for Janet Jackson's song Nasty.
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Was it is that what it's called?
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm not just that one song.
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It was just that one song, and I sucked at it.
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So I guess Janet Jackson had a bigger role.
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Like, and my parents were not a fan or anything.
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It would just be purely hearing it on the radio, MTV, like whatever.
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But like she's a pop star.
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Oh, yeah.
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For sure.
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It's like, and it's not so much pop like Britney.
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It's kind of more like RB smooth, like but she made a really big impact on pop music, I would say.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy to think about how different like reach of music was back then.
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Like because when I say double platinum, I mean she sold two million copies of that single.
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Yeah.
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That is that's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Who who's even buying singles?
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Well, I do want to wind it down so that I can get to your pick.
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But I do want to give you a little bit of trivia about this song before I do.
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Did you catch the Family Affair sample on this?
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I did, but only the second.
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So the first time I listened to it, and I was like, eh, okay.
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I didn't when you shared it initially, I wasn't that like focused on it.
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But then I always prepare for what before our episode and I listen to the whole thing.
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And Family Affair is like one of my favorite sliced open.
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Yes.
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It's so good.
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So um, and I recently watched the documentary, the Quest Love documentary.
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So the song is in my head already.
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So I'm like, I didn't know right off the bat what it was, but I did have to who stamp her.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That's like one.
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Yeah.
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So it's so great.
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That's actually good.
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It's a good song.
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I I do enjoy the song.
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Okay, good.
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I mean, it's not one of those ones that I'm like, oh, this is my favorite song or anything.
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I just, you know.
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But Sly Stone was one of the songwriters on this song and on and on.
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So that's why the Family Affair sample happened.
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But I didn't hear it initially either.
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And it is funny too, because my sister and I used to sing Family Affair a lot as children, just like to each other.
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I think we thought it was funny because we're like, it's a family affair.
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It's such a good song.
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Yeah, it's a blast.
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I was listening to it after I was listening to the Janet song, and I'm like, that song is good.
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Yeah.
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Like bring never gets old.
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Bring it back.
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Anyway, I would love it if you could be as explicit as possible in sharing your song.
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You know, I will.
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So, okay.
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Just a day before you picked this theme, our friend Alice shared one of her favorite summer songs.
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And she went as far as to say it was on a no-skip album.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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High praise.
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I know.
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So I immediately liked the song, but had only listened to it once and really knew nothing about the singer or the album it was on when I shared it with you.
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I just knew it was like the perfect song for this theme.
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In fact, it's so perfect.
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I'm just gonna let the song introduce itself.
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This is a sad song.
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Although it feels happy.
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It is not happy at all.
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In fact, it makes me so, so sad to sing this song.
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And I'm not sang it for you anyway.
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This song is called Goodbye Henry.
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And I wrote about a boy.
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A very lovely boy.
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And his name isn't even Henry, but I'm just trying to be respectful.
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Now, forgive me for not being explicit enough that this is from the British singer-songwriter Ray doing goodbye, Henry, in case that wasn't obvious, on her 2026 album, explicitly titled This Music May Contain Hope.
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Now, what did you think when I shared it?
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Did you know anything about Ray?
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I didn't know anything about Ray.
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I was surprised when you shared this one.
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And I will tell you, Christina, I did not want to like it.
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I didn't want to like it because I was like, this is corny.
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Yeah.
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This is some bullshit.
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Yeah.
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And then I was listening to it a second time and I found myself dancing along, just moving and grooving.
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I still think it's corny.
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Oh, yeah.
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But I don't dislike it.
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Uh and Ray, I just saw her in the headlines yesterday.
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It's funny.
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I think she's dating some celebrity, but I can't remember who it was.
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No, it's it's funny.
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I feel like she this album is just like like gonna make her blow up.
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I think she's already there.
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Oh, okay, probably.
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For me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm see in my mind she is blowing up after I have now listened to the album.
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Now wait, are you gonna talk about this other song?
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The Where the Hell is My Husband?
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Um, I'm not gonna talk.
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I actually don't have plans to talk about it.
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I can mention it, but I kind of want to talk about the whole album.
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Okay.
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Being like this exercise, like in subtextless minimalism.
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And I'm really not saying that as a diss, like as I said earlier, like I don't mind it when music is subtextless.
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Like I'm I'm kind of here for it.
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I don't like that in my movies and books, but songs are okay.
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And Ray actually very proudly labeled herself as a maximalist.
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So I don't know.
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I kind of love this album and love her for it.
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So there's a lot to say about Ray, and considering I didn't even know who she was until a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, I'll I'll try to stay focused on my pick, but first I will share a little bit of background in case anyone else is new to her.
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I feel like I might be the last person.
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You and you and I might be the last.
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So she was born Rachel Agatha Keene in 1997.
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She's young.
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Young.
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Her mother is Ghanaian Swiss and her father's English.
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Her music is all over the place, but in the best possible way.
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And this album doesn't just contain hope, but jazz, chanson, soul, RB, pop, classical, and musical theater.
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She's been compared to Amy Winehouse and even attended the Brits School, which counts Winehouse, Adele, and Olivia Dean as alumni.
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She and Olivia were there around the same time, but Ray didn't complete the full term because she was already making money and writing songs for pop stars like Beyoncé, John Legend, and I don't know if you've heard of her, but Charlie XCX.
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Oh, an up-and-coming Starlet.
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Yeah.
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So in June of 2021, she posted on Twitter, Today I feel like a toilet.
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And she kind of went off on being used and emotionally like worn down by her record label.
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And that ultimately led her to go independent.
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And her debut album in 2023, 21st Century Blues, really put her on the map.
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She holds the record for most Brit awards, one in a single year, receiving six in 2024.
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That's more than Adele or Blur Carrie Styles.
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And she was also the first woman to win Songwriter of the Year.
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Damn.
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I know.
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Like none of how did I not know about her?
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So as I was researching Ray, I found an unexpected connection.
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She collaborated with DJ Retone on the song I Don't Want You.
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And it's no fake ID, which we talked about just last week.
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It's, you know, your typical dance.
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Top bot, but it's still kind of cool.
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I did see that on YouTube when I was looking at the fake ID video.
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I saw Ray and Retone, and I was like, oh, I want to mention this, but I don't want to get ahead of myself.
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No, how funny.
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Well, probably because like we're using now the same YouTube example.
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Oh, that's right.
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So the stuff that I'm looking at is coming up.
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Shameless plug, stereothematica on the page.
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On YouTube.
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Check us out.
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There's no video.
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No video.
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But this new album is really special and it's so special that, you know, I might actually buy it on vinyl.
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It's wow.
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I know.
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I know.
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It's surprising.
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I'm shocked.
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Uh-huh.
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It's it's just so big and it's theatrical.
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It's got Hans Zimmer and the London Symphony Orchestra.
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It's also very sentimental, which you know is not typically my thing, but but she's just so earnest and wildly talented.
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And like really, I think you are the audience for this.
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I think you'd love it.
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Oh my goodness.
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As a whole.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Interesting.
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It feels like musical theater.
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Hmm.
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I guess I don't know.
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I might have to go listen to more of the album because I only listen to a handful of songs.
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I invite you to listen from start to finish.
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Okay.
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To say.
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Now, speaking of family affair, this album is indeed a family affair.
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Her parents are her managers.
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Her sisters make guest appearances on the song Joy, another really fun song.
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And she incorporated her grandparents in one way or another on this album.
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She talks about all this during an interview with Zane Lowe.
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So we'll we'll share that.
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Really interesting.
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Get a lot of like background of where she's coming from.
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Anyway, so this is only her second album, and it's a 73-minute autobiography across four season-themed acts and 17 songs moving through autumn, winter, spring, and summer.
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Yes, anyone say Vivaldi.
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And with Goodbye Henry in the spring section, along with songs I Hate the Way I Look, Nightingale Lane, and Skin and Bones.
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And I'm just kind of obsessed with it all.
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It's not a no-skipper.
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There are songs that I'm not feeling really.
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But for the most part, it does give me chills throughout.
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And dude, I was in line at a CVS the other day, and I started crying listening to the closing track.
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Are you familiar with this at all?
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No.
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Okay.
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Closing track fan, which is French for end.
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Um, she basically shares her gratitude in a very Disney musical, over the top sort of way.
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And then she talks through the credits, naming every person involved.
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And it goes on for six minutes.
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And it's really, it's just very sweet.
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Like I yeah, listening to it a lot of the album, I do get chills, like you get kind of choked up because you do you get the sense this this means so much to her.
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And she did it exactly the way she wanted to.
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So yeah, I that's why I think it's definitely worth like listening from start to finish.
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Okay.
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So getting back to goodbye Henry and the theme, she even breaks the fourth wall singing, his name isn't even Henry.
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I'm just being respectful.
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So, in many ways, the song is a tribute to vintage Memphis RB, and not to bury the lead here, but it's kind of built around a duet with Al Green.
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Put your hands together, ladies and gentlemen, for Al Green.
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I hope you're well.
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It's nice to be on a microphone.
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Sorry to cut off Al Green here, but you'll just have to listen to the whole song to hear all his glory.
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But she also nods to Green's song, Love and Happiness, wishing that for Henry.
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And according to song facts, this Henry character may be the same recurring ex who shows up in Nightingale Lane and Winter Woman.
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But here, unlike those more devastated songs, she's arrived at acceptance.
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And I have arrived at the end of my part, and I am so grateful to you for proposing this theme and Alice for sharing the song.
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:33.519
But yeah, you had mentioned the Where's My Husband in all caps.
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Did you have something to share about that?
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An observation.
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I think that was how I was introduced to this singer because that song got quite a bit of airplay and features and you know the ubiquitous Instagram videos and whatnot.
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But one day while I was railing against Taylor Swift being an anti-feminist, to a friend of mine, she goes, Well, what do you think of this song?
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Uh-huh.
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And she shares this song with me, Where the Hell is My Husband?
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And I said, This is amazing.
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It's hilarious.
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And it's funny, and it's just, you know, a very cheeky like song.
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So I was like, this is not anti-feminist.
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And also, women can want a husband, and it doesn't have to be their whole identity.
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Like, whatever.
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So that's where I was curious about your thoughts on that one.
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It's a fun, like it's and I again, that's this the first song I've ever heard is the Goodbye Henry.
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So just in listening to the album, and then there's like an amazing performance of her at the Brit Awards, which we'll share singing that song.
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It's a good, it's it's a funny song.
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And the fact that it's all in caps is hilarious.
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The songwriter after Goodbye Henry also opened with This Is the Song about Nightingale Lane.
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So I was like two in a row.
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No, I'm like, oh my gosh, if I had known, I would have picked that.
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But I actually like Goodbye Henry so much more than Night and Gallane.
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Yeah.
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Oh very fun.
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Good job on the box and thanks, Alice.
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Yeah, thanks, Alice.
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Big time.
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Perfect, perfect choice.
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Well done.
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Yep.
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Um, would you mind if I just gave you a little bit of unsolicited advice?
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Please.
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And our listeners, but I am curious if this is applicable.
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Because if you haven't already, please would you just watch Widow's Bay for the love of God?
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It made my summer.
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And might you allow some joy in the form of horror comedy into your life?
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Dude, I'm dying to watch it.
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And and now we finally caught up with Silo, so we can.
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Finally, listeners, I have been begging her to listen to this for maybe months at this point.
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And it's so rare that I recommend to any visual media that you know it's gotta be good.
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So this show has everything.
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Sea hags, single dads doing their best.
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Chris Fleming is a drug-dealing shaman, possible Satan worshiping.
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Need I say more?
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Chris Fleming is a drug-dealing shaman.
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Why didn't you lead with that?
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I know I should have really hooked you in there, but I kind of wanted it to be a surprise.
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Listener, if I am late recommending this to you, it's not because I was late to the bandwagon when I watched this show.
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I awaited each new episode with bated breath.
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If that tells you anything about how exciting it is.
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And if you don't have Apple TV, I don't blame you.
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But maybe see if you can bum a login from a friend or a family member.
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Advice over Christine.
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Any hints for next week?
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Let's do some seasonal vibing.
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Thanks for listening to Sterythematica.
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If you like what you're hearing, please consider a review, a rating, or share us with a friend.
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And visit stereothematica.com for more fun.
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I'm Christine.
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And I'm Christina.
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In 2024, I moved to Texas from LA.
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And to keep in touch, Christine and I started a weekly game where we each pick a song that fits a chosen theme.
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This game deepened our understanding of each other and the songs that shape us, inspiring the podcast you're listening to now.
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Each week we share our pics, swap stories, and dig into tracks you might love and a lot of the time have never heard of.
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Welcome to Stereo Thematica, your favorite atypical music podcast.
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Christine, when you talk about this podcast with people who have never listened to it before, what do you tell them it's about?
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Are you vague or explicit?
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I think I'm explicit.
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I say this is a podcast where two friends every other week share a theme and each pick a song that meets the theme.
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Is that explicit enough?
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That is extremely I've done it like I have an elevator pitch.
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Do you know what I say?
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What?
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I have a music podcast.
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And that's it.
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That's it.
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I love we are so yin and yang.
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I know that this is like so spot on for us.
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That's funny.
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Well, because I'm trying to gauge what people will react, like how they'll react if I'm like, I have a music podcast, and then they're like, What?
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Like, are you a musician?
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Right.
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What are you doing?
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Are you what gives you the right?
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Yeah, who are you?
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You're a woman.
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Yeah.
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That's really funny.
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Yeah.
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And I do think it says a lot about us.
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Uh-huh.
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Of course, like who we are, but I usually like to see if somebody's gonna be interested in what I would say next before I give them the elevator pitch.
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And and are you getting people not asking follow-up questions?
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Because I hate that.
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I'm just putting that out in the world right now.
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Ask follow-up questions, people for all kinds of stuff.
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For everything.
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Yeah, it doesn't have to be.
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Don't worry, you're not prying.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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There.
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I'm glad I got that out.
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Good.
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I also was wondering if you picked up on what I'm putting down with this theme.
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Being explicit.
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Yes, I got that.
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Do you think I hooked anybody who might have thought we were talking about dirty stuff?
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Well, I mean, after our last episode or the horny.
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Yeah, the horny episode.
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That was a real bait and switch.
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Yes.
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We do that a lot on stereothematica.
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I think we got a lot of new downloads from different parts of the world.
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Oh, yeah, I think so, for sure.
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I don't mind.
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But I wonder if they listened to the entire episode.
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I do want to clarify I don't think our songs are explicit in in the sense of they're NC17.
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They're more Hey, I'm explicitly telling you what this song's gonna be about.
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And I think it's so funny when artists will say exactly what the song's going to be about before they really start singing anything.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, and what I told you specifically was this is a song about blank.
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Yeah.
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And then they give you a little flimsy line, you know, to set up the story.
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And sometimes they're not as explicit, right, Christine?
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I think you had a song that you wrestled with.
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Oh yeah.
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So this was actually the second time I wanted to choose this song.
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Let me give it away.
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I probably will use it at some point, but Bob Dylan's Hurricane from his album Desire, wonderful song, eight and a half minutes about the black boxer Reuben Hurricane Carter.
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And he was wrongfully convicted of triple murder.
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And eventually in 1985, it was overturned.
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But Bob starts, I mean, he he sets it up, but then he says, Here comes the story of the hurricane.
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Hell yeah.
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And then he gets into the story of the hurricane for another eight minutes.
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Yeah.
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Which is also so funny for Bob Dylan to be doing that.
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Here comes the story of the hurricane.
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Yeah.
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You're already singing about it, Bob.
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No, it's it's it's kind of adorable.
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Now, I think I should probably just bring this up right now, get it out of the way.
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He does use the N-word in the song, which was part of my hesitation for sharing it the first time and this time.
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Obviously, with Bob, there is context, but still, I don't think he would have used that word today.
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It's anyway.
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I challenge that.
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I don't think he would have used it.
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I think he knows better.
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But anyway, I feel like I think his producers would probably tell him not not anymore, Bob.
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Yeah.
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So that time is fast.
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Wait, what year did you say that song came out?
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Um, that was 76 on desire.
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It was a different time.
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Different time.
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Uh no, I don't I don't believe in the different time thing.
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I do think it's it's touchy, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, for sure.
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Especially for a white guy from Minnesota to be using the hard R N-word.
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Yeah, no.
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So anyway.
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Well, now that we got that out of the way, what do you think when songs say exactly what they're going to talk about before they even get into the song?
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I don't think it bothers me.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think I I mean, I feel like you get it a lot at concerts.
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Oh, yeah.
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So if you're used to that, it's like, okay, they're just doing it on the album too.
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It's it's not that big of a deal.
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I kind of I I like the clarity.
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I do it's funny because like in books, literature, movies, television, I prefer subtext.
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But I don't think I do in songs.
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In songs, I like it all out there.
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I like the explicitness.
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That is really funny because I'm not, I don't know.
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One I one way or another, I think it could it could make her it's not gonna make her break a song.
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Uh-huh.
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It's going to just give a little extra that you maybe don't need, is my opinion.
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But I actually really like the flimsy ones.
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So I don't think you're gonna know this song, but maybe some of our listeners were as well.
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Brittany Spears told us this is a story about a girl named Lucky.
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Do you know that song?
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I don't I don't think so.
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Okay.
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It's called Lucky, and it's like, she's so lucky.
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Anyway, the irony, uh-huh, her luck, aka fame, was a curse, and it was a very thinly veiled uh story of Britney Spears' own life.
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And this happened before she shaved her head.
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Oh poor Britney.
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There's also that extremely annoying song that opens with, This is the story of a girl.
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Do you know that one?
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I don't well.
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Oh my god, what planet do you live on?
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I know Pulowski.
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I know that some of our listeners will know that one.
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It is so freaking annoying.
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I had to Google it to find the band and the song name.
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Never heard of them.
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It's an awful.
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I will actually call this one a terrible earworm because that line.
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Yeah, anytime I hear someone be like, This is, and I'm like, the story of a girl.
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Like, cause it probably had to be that you were there like when it was really on the radio, which wins probably when I was in like middle or high school.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, can't remember.
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I don't think K Crw was playing it.
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Girl, no, they were not.
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They were not.
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But if you've ever heard speaking of concerts, the 1977 live recording of Rhiannon by Fleetwood Mac at the forum.
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I have yeah, I know the song, obviously.
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But yeah, it's a it's a good recording, it's faster than I would expect.
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But at the very beginning, Stevie says, This is a song about a witch.
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Oh, yeah, which I love.
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Do you like Rihannon?
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I do, yeah.
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It's such a chance.
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It's good, yeah.
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It's so good.
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I wish it were acceptable for this theme because I would have chosen that.
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Oh, but it's not because it's not in the original lyrics.
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Okay.
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But I I will link to that song.
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And then I know you're gonna love this one, Bobby McFerrin's Don't Worry, Be Happy, which opens with, Here's a little song I wrote, and it's so bad.
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I know you don't love it.
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No, not a huge fan.
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Somebody out there loves it, but it is toxic positivity, and I reject that.
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So I'm starting off by sharing all of these bad tunes because I am trying to make a point.
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And that point is this is a lazy vehicle for songwriting and storytelling.
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Okay.
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I disagree that artists need to do this to tell us anything we need to know about a song because just let us listen to the lyrics, let us feel it.
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Yeah.
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Create our own meeting.
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Why are you hitting us over the head with it?
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Fair enough.
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It's interesting that we are on opposite sides of the coin on this one.
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And and now that you put it like that, I mean, it's not that I need to have that.
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I just don't mind it.
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How amazing would it be if you were like, I need every song.
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No, I don't want that.
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That would be weird.
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But I feel like every once in a while it's like, it's kind of cute.
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It's kind of like, oh, you're getting it's a little more intimate.
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I do, uh, and I'm walking back a little bit because sometimes, you know, and like I feel like in country, like kind of the more classic country, they'll be like, this is a song I wrote about, you know.
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And I'm like, yeah, I love that.
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Love, love the storytelling opening.
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Okay.
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Anyway, all of this is to say I did pick a song that I do like.
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Um because as soon as you'll hear it, it's nothing serious.
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Yeah.
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So let's listen.
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My pick for explicit.
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Here's An On and On by Janet Jackson from the 1995 album Janet Remixed.
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Besides, this is a song about summertime.
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May it never end.
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Yeah.
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May it never end.
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This is a summer of love as a lover goes.
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Oh no, and on and on.
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I'm not a hater.
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I'm not truly hating this trope.
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I do think it's funny, but this is why I love what Janet did here.
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Uh-huh.
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She says this is a song about summertime.
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May it never end.
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She clearly didn't live in Houston, Texas, where I am ready to melt.
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And probably most of my insides have already melted because summer really does go on and on here.
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Yeah.
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But in actuality, there's no indication that the song is actually about summertime.
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She's just saying that.
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I think she is saying the feeling goes on and on and on.
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And like maybe if I lived in Los Angeles with which I have endless summer, right?
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Yeah.
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Not really.
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It does get away.
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No, I mean it gets nice.
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But yeah.
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But I feel like what she's trying to say is like the feeling of summer is so great that she doesn't want it to stop.
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Well, I mean, you can kind of relate to that.
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Like summer, lots of concerts, lots of like outside time with friends.
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There's some time with friends.
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It's it's nice.
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It's things slow down a bit with work.
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It's it's a better time.
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It's not temperature-wise.
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I like all of the sunlight.
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That's for damn sure.
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I like the sun setting late.
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Yep.
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It's just so hot here.
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It's so hot.
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I live in a cursed place.
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But Janet, if I were in LA, ooh, I would be so there, so right there with you, top down in the car next to your sweetie, just that blissful feeling.
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Pure, fun, smooth jams on the radio.
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I do think people agreed with Janet too, because as a single, this song reached number two on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1994 and eventually reached number 30 on the year-end chart.
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Do you remember this song?
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Honestly, I don't.
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I I was never really a Janet fan.
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More more Michael.
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What about Scream?
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Scream?
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Yeah.
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No.
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Wait, isn't that what it was called?
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I don't the one where Janet and Michael were it had such video.
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Oh no, I don't even.
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Oh my god.
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Listener, if you're screaming like I am, scream.
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Okay.
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I'm gonna have to send you the video out as soon as we stop.
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Don't let me forget.
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Okay.
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That's such a jam.
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Anyway, I vaguely remember this song from my childhood.
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Like I just was like, oh yeah, this is kind of unlocking something in me.
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But I do think when we're, you know, talking about this song in particular, it's not quite an earworm like we were talking about in our last episode.
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But it has this like incredible repetitiveness.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And it's kind of like weirdly soothing.
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Uh-huh.
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Cause like, you know how we were talking about with the earworms.
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If I get a song stuck in my head and I'm like laying awake at night, I could just like say, and on and on and on and on over and over until I fall asleep.
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Yeah.
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And I'm on meds now.
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But maybe that's not bad.
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Yeah, no, I'm just I'm saying it's a good thing.
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It helps you go to sleep.
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Yeah.
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And like even the male vocalist who I couldn't figure out who it was.
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I like looked everywhere trying to figure it out.
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His repetitive singing doesn't even bother me because it's like a little bit more intense than hers, which is like really like peaceful and smooth.
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Yeah.
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But there is a part of the song that actually made me laugh out loud when I was listening to it while prepping.
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And let me play it real quick.
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Okay.
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She goes, damn, this is a long song.
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Yeah.
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It's so funny.
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And that's what I was thinking right about the time she says it.
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It's funny because, like, when you're listening to it, or at least for me, I didn't think it was long, but it is almost five minutes long, which is pretty long for a pop song.
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Yeah.
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And longer than I think, you know, probably some of her other songs are.
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And I also did a little bit of Reddit Lurking because the Janet fans out there really love this one.
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Uh-huh.
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And it was actually released as a B-side.
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So it didn't even get as much airplay as some of the other songs.
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And doesn't she call that out at the beginning too?
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Yes, she said this is a B side.
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Or I think she just goes B side, which is very explicit.
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Good point.
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Like, absolutely love that.
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But when you think about like, so even though this one made it to number three on Billboard, think about that's the way love goes.
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Yeah.
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Do you remember that one?
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No.
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It's from '93.
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It was very single from Janet.
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And it went double platinum in the ears.
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Okay.
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Do you remember when we were on Who Will Save Gen X?
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Yes.
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And how much I sucked when we were doing the fill in the blanks for Janet Jackson's song Nasty.
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Was it is that what it's called?
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm not just that one song.
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It was just that one song, and I sucked at it.
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So I guess Janet Jackson had a bigger role.
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Like, and my parents were not a fan or anything.
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It would just be purely hearing it on the radio, MTV, like whatever.
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But like she's a pop star.
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Oh, yeah.
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For sure.
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It's like, and it's not so much pop like Britney.
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It's kind of more like RB smooth, like but she made a really big impact on pop music, I would say.
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Yeah.
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It's crazy to think about how different like reach of music was back then.
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Like because when I say double platinum, I mean she sold two million copies of that single.
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Yeah.
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That is that's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Who who's even buying singles?
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Well, I do want to wind it down so that I can get to your pick.
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But I do want to give you a little bit of trivia about this song before I do.
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Did you catch the Family Affair sample on this?
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I did, but only the second.
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So the first time I listened to it, and I was like, eh, okay.
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I didn't when you shared it initially, I wasn't that like focused on it.
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But then I always prepare for what before our episode and I listen to the whole thing.
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And Family Affair is like one of my favorite sliced open.
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Yes.
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It's so good.
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So um, and I recently watched the documentary, the Quest Love documentary.
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So the song is in my head already.
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So I'm like, I didn't know right off the bat what it was, but I did have to who stamp her.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That's like one.
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Yeah.
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So it's so great.
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That's actually good.
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It's a good song.
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I I do enjoy the song.
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Okay, good.
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I mean, it's not one of those ones that I'm like, oh, this is my favorite song or anything.
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I just, you know.
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But Sly Stone was one of the songwriters on this song and on and on.
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So that's why the Family Affair sample happened.
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But I didn't hear it initially either.
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And it is funny too, because my sister and I used to sing Family Affair a lot as children, just like to each other.
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I think we thought it was funny because we're like, it's a family affair.
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It's such a good song.
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Yeah, it's a blast.
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I was listening to it after I was listening to the Janet song, and I'm like, that song is good.
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Yeah.
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Like bring never gets old.
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Bring it back.
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Anyway, I would love it if you could be as explicit as possible in sharing your song.
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You know, I will.
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So, okay.
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Just a day before you picked this theme, our friend Alice shared one of her favorite summer songs.
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And she went as far as to say it was on a no-skip album.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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High praise.
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I know.
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So I immediately liked the song, but had only listened to it once and really knew nothing about the singer or the album it was on when I shared it with you.
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I just knew it was like the perfect song for this theme.
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In fact, it's so perfect.
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I'm just gonna let the song introduce itself.
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This is a sad song.
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Although it feels happy.
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It is not happy at all.
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In fact, it makes me so, so sad to sing this song.
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And I'm not sang it for you anyway.
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This song is called Goodbye Henry.
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And I wrote about a boy.
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A very lovely boy.
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And his name isn't even Henry, but I'm just trying to be respectful.
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Now, forgive me for not being explicit enough that this is from the British singer-songwriter Ray doing goodbye, Henry, in case that wasn't obvious, on her 2026 album, explicitly titled This Music May Contain Hope.
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Now, what did you think when I shared it?
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Did you know anything about Ray?
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I didn't know anything about Ray.
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I was surprised when you shared this one.
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And I will tell you, Christina, I did not want to like it.
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I didn't want to like it because I was like, this is corny.
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Yeah.
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This is some bullshit.
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Yeah.
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And then I was listening to it a second time and I found myself dancing along, just moving and grooving.
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I still think it's corny.
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Oh, yeah.
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But I don't dislike it.
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Uh and Ray, I just saw her in the headlines yesterday.
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It's funny.
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I think she's dating some celebrity, but I can't remember who it was.
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No, it's it's funny.
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I feel like she this album is just like like gonna make her blow up.
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I think she's already there.
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Oh, okay, probably.
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For me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm see in my mind she is blowing up after I have now listened to the album.
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Now wait, are you gonna talk about this other song?
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The Where the Hell is My Husband?
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Um, I'm not gonna talk.
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I actually don't have plans to talk about it.
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I can mention it, but I kind of want to talk about the whole album.
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Okay.
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Being like this exercise, like in subtextless minimalism.
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And I'm really not saying that as a diss, like as I said earlier, like I don't mind it when music is subtextless.
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Like I'm I'm kind of here for it.
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I don't like that in my movies and books, but songs are okay.
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And Ray actually very proudly labeled herself as a maximalist.
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So I don't know.
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I kind of love this album and love her for it.
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So there's a lot to say about Ray, and considering I didn't even know who she was until a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, I'll I'll try to stay focused on my pick, but first I will share a little bit of background in case anyone else is new to her.
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I feel like I might be the last person.
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You and you and I might be the last.
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So she was born Rachel Agatha Keene in 1997.
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She's young.
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Young.
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Her mother is Ghanaian Swiss and her father's English.
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Her music is all over the place, but in the best possible way.
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And this album doesn't just contain hope, but jazz, chanson, soul, RB, pop, classical, and musical theater.
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She's been compared to Amy Winehouse and even attended the Brits School, which counts Winehouse, Adele, and Olivia Dean as alumni.
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She and Olivia were there around the same time, but Ray didn't complete the full term because she was already making money and writing songs for pop stars like Beyoncé, John Legend, and I don't know if you've heard of her, but Charlie XCX.
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Oh, an up-and-coming Starlet.
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Yeah.
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So in June of 2021, she posted on Twitter, Today I feel like a toilet.
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And she kind of went off on being used and emotionally like worn down by her record label.
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And that ultimately led her to go independent.
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And her debut album in 2023, 21st Century Blues, really put her on the map.
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She holds the record for most Brit awards, one in a single year, receiving six in 2024.
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That's more than Adele or Blur Carrie Styles.
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And she was also the first woman to win Songwriter of the Year.
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Damn.
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I know.
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Like none of how did I not know about her?
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So as I was researching Ray, I found an unexpected connection.
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She collaborated with DJ Retone on the song I Don't Want You.
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And it's no fake ID, which we talked about just last week.
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It's, you know, your typical dance.
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Top bot, but it's still kind of cool.
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I did see that on YouTube when I was looking at the fake ID video.
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I saw Ray and Retone, and I was like, oh, I want to mention this, but I don't want to get ahead of myself.
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No, how funny.
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Well, probably because like we're using now the same YouTube example.
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Oh, that's right.
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So the stuff that I'm looking at is coming up.
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Shameless plug, stereothematica on the page.
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On YouTube.
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Check us out.
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There's no video.
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No video.
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But this new album is really special and it's so special that, you know, I might actually buy it on vinyl.
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It's wow.
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I know.
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I know.
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It's surprising.
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I'm shocked.
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Uh-huh.
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It's it's just so big and it's theatrical.
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It's got Hans Zimmer and the London Symphony Orchestra.
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It's also very sentimental, which you know is not typically my thing, but but she's just so earnest and wildly talented.
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And like really, I think you are the audience for this.
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I think you'd love it.
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Oh my goodness.
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As a whole.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Interesting.
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It feels like musical theater.
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Hmm.
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I guess I don't know.
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I might have to go listen to more of the album because I only listen to a handful of songs.
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I invite you to listen from start to finish.
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Okay.
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To say.
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Now, speaking of family affair, this album is indeed a family affair.
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Her parents are her managers.
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Her sisters make guest appearances on the song Joy, another really fun song.
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And she incorporated her grandparents in one way or another on this album.
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She talks about all this during an interview with Zane Lowe.
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So we'll we'll share that.
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Really interesting.
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Get a lot of like background of where she's coming from.
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Anyway, so this is only her second album, and it's a 73-minute autobiography across four season-themed acts and 17 songs moving through autumn, winter, spring, and summer.
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Yes, anyone say Vivaldi.
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And with Goodbye Henry in the spring section, along with songs I Hate the Way I Look, Nightingale Lane, and Skin and Bones.
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And I'm just kind of obsessed with it all.
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It's not a no-skipper.
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There are songs that I'm not feeling really.
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But for the most part, it does give me chills throughout.
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And dude, I was in line at a CVS the other day, and I started crying listening to the closing track.
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Are you familiar with this at all?
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No.
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Okay.
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Closing track fan, which is French for end.
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Um, she basically shares her gratitude in a very Disney musical, over the top sort of way.
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And then she talks through the credits, naming every person involved.
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And it goes on for six minutes.
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And it's really, it's just very sweet.
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Like I yeah, listening to it a lot of the album, I do get chills, like you get kind of choked up because you do you get the sense this this means so much to her.
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And she did it exactly the way she wanted to.
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So yeah, I that's why I think it's definitely worth like listening from start to finish.
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Okay.
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So getting back to goodbye Henry and the theme, she even breaks the fourth wall singing, his name isn't even Henry.
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I'm just being respectful.
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So, in many ways, the song is a tribute to vintage Memphis RB, and not to bury the lead here, but it's kind of built around a duet with Al Green.
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Put your hands together, ladies and gentlemen, for Al Green.
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I hope you're well.
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It's nice to be on a microphone.
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Sorry to cut off Al Green here, but you'll just have to listen to the whole song to hear all his glory.
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But she also nods to Green's song, Love and Happiness, wishing that for Henry.
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And according to song facts, this Henry character may be the same recurring ex who shows up in Nightingale Lane and Winter Woman.
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But here, unlike those more devastated songs, she's arrived at acceptance.
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And I have arrived at the end of my part, and I am so grateful to you for proposing this theme and Alice for sharing the song.
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But yeah, you had mentioned the Where's My Husband in all caps.
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Did you have something to share about that?
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An observation.
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I think that was how I was introduced to this singer because that song got quite a bit of airplay and features and you know the ubiquitous Instagram videos and whatnot.
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But one day while I was railing against Taylor Swift being an anti-feminist, to a friend of mine, she goes, Well, what do you think of this song?
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Uh-huh.
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And she shares this song with me, Where the Hell is My Husband?
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And I said, This is amazing.
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It's hilarious.
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And it's funny, and it's just, you know, a very cheeky like song.
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So I was like, this is not anti-feminist.
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And also, women can want a husband, and it doesn't have to be their whole identity.
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Like, whatever.
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So that's where I was curious about your thoughts on that one.
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It's a fun, like it's and I again, that's this the first song I've ever heard is the Goodbye Henry.
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So just in listening to the album, and then there's like an amazing performance of her at the Brit Awards, which we'll share singing that song.
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It's a good, it's it's a funny song.
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And the fact that it's all in caps is hilarious.
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The songwriter after Goodbye Henry also opened with This Is the Song about Nightingale Lane.
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So I was like two in a row.
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No, I'm like, oh my gosh, if I had known, I would have picked that.
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But I actually like Goodbye Henry so much more than Night and Gallane.
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Yeah.
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Oh very fun.
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Good job on the box and thanks, Alice.
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Yeah, thanks, Alice.
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Big time.
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Perfect, perfect choice.
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Well done.
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Yep.
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Um, would you mind if I just gave you a little bit of unsolicited advice?
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Please.
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And our listeners, but I am curious if this is applicable.
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Because if you haven't already, please would you just watch Widow's Bay for the love of God?
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It made my summer.
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And might you allow some joy in the form of horror comedy into your life?
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Dude, I'm dying to watch it.
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And and now we finally caught up with Silo, so we can.
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Finally, listeners, I have been begging her to listen to this for maybe months at this point.
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And it's so rare that I recommend to any visual media that you know it's gotta be good.
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So this show has everything.
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Sea hags, single dads doing their best.
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Chris Fleming is a drug-dealing shaman, possible Satan worshiping.
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Need I say more?
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Chris Fleming is a drug-dealing shaman.
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Why didn't you lead with that?
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I know I should have really hooked you in there, but I kind of wanted it to be a surprise.
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Listener, if I am late recommending this to you, it's not because I was late to the bandwagon when I watched this show.
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I awaited each new episode with bated breath.
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If that tells you anything about how exciting it is.
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And if you don't have Apple TV, I don't blame you.
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But maybe see if you can bum a login from a friend or a family member.
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Advice over Christine.
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Any hints for next week?
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Let's do some seasonal vibing.
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