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[SPEAKER_02]: Ants on your grave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dishy Greder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, it is Shake Them Ropes Rob McHare and here joined by Jeff Hawkins as always no weeks off ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to start by, uh, so I live in Northern Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Hawkins, you as everyone knows lives in Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And last, last week, Thursday, it was a week ago, around this time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we had a string of thunderstorms that turned into supercell city.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... we had eight i think i think the ending number became twenty-one but in northern indiana there were at least eight confirm tornadoes well in northern indiana where i was there was a confirmed f-two within a mile of my house uh... heard it quite the fun story uh... but all the all this to say there was a lot of weather last week uh... i had no power for three days
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[SPEAKER_02]: including starting on that afternoon late afternoon of Thursday, so I do want to apologize to everyone that there was no shake them ropes last week, but I had no power to record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff was traveling, so he already wasn't going to be a part of the episode, and I'm like, do I get a hotel to record shake them ropes?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, so much I stayed here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I stayed here with no power and I was like, okay, well, the storms pass were hiding in the lower level because like it was loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very gusty found out later, you know, I knew there was something going on nearby because I could hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But found out later there was an F2 that rolled, you know, from a mile to my house to about three miles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a long one and it lasted about three minutes
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but yeah so we heard all that going on so at first i'm just like you know my wife my dog and i were just kind of hanging out down here and uh... stay in a way from windows like uh... the last thing on my mind at that moment with shake them robs
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, I probably shouldn't have waited until Thursday afternoon to record since it was just me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could have gone earlier and gotten it to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But something came up the night before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I even told you I was like, ah, something's coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't do it this night, but I'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our usual time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then God was like, no, you won't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll do it this morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't look at us like what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, oh, yeah, tournado.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I'll tournado.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been so pretty we had some pretty bad wind and thunderstorms last Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, going into Thursday and Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as bad as yours, but it was still.
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[SPEAKER_02]: blue out I was in a restaurant at the power blue out and air by left right as my food game like the power was not good it was not great yeah so we had some pretty strong storms and they just didn't stop they went through the entirety of Indiana you know all through Illinois it was constant and then in the in Ohio and Michigan too so I mean those storms are crazy didn't get power back until Saturday night so Thursday Friday Saturday all day
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we had some other thunderstorms come in last night, but luckily not as bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we are ready to talk about night of champions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, ready to talk about the the biggest story of the week, which is, uh, Christiana Ronaldo is pretty bad at soccer now, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yeah, we're just going to talk about the world of wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You might even, you, you are gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know how in tuned are you with the pro wrestling landscape on TV as of the last couple weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm fairly in tune with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to ask this question, Rob.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ask it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is the point of LA night?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watch this raw this bad one day and my got like this guy about I want to say six months ago maybe a little longer like he was on that
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[SPEAKER_03]: upper card like at one time he was actually top three and merch sales when he was on this hot streak and you thought well maybe you could do something with him maybe I'm not saying definitely but maybe you could do something with him his job every week now is to come out basically say I'm gonna get screwed by the usos who
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[SPEAKER_03]: lose to someone within this bloodline thing and look like an absolute geek because he knows what's going to happen and then he just loses and the crowd it's like the crowd pops for his entrance and then everybody knows he's just going to lose whatever match he's in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: it's one of those things where it's like there's nothing for him to do and he looks dumb doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's almost a female equivalent in Lyra of Alchiria, but I'm not going to go that far with her just yet, but L.A. Knight is there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey man, the bloodlines back and they're bad guys, and then he gets his ass beat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all he does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that aspect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he weren't still kind of prominent as far as the people he's working with, because he, yeah, it is the bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is the use, sos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He reminds me of a dear, remember this name, Jeff Hawkins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just Joe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He reminds me of just Joe because all he's doing is every once in a while who come in bugged the general manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knowing full well he's a nuisance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He comes in and he and Adam Pierce turns and it's L.A. night and L.A. night's like, yeah, it's me again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I'm just going to keep bugging you and not really solve anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now now, now at least he's going to do it his way and his way involves getting his ass beat by everyone all at once.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and not having a plan, not having friends, no friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, what the fuck happened to his tag team partners at WrestleMania, you know, where are the street profits out, where are all these guys who also have problems with the vision and the bloodline?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, I guess now there's the bloodline and the vision on the same show, so you have too much going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're splitting up all the baby faces, so they can't really help out each other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, it's like LA 9.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I almost have the same visceral reaction as I do to John Moxley's entrance music from Times Now because it's just like, ah, there comes another here comes another LA 9 segment where he comes out he goes, let me talk to you everybody says LA 9 and then he just gets beat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just gets beat here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How a, how pathetic are you if you're a SmackDown superstar?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got half and half wrong SmackDown in the men's king of the ring tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm I'm segueing because of LA night, LA night, I obviously lost his first round match, but so did everyone on the SmackDown brand because it's only raw from the semi finals on at least in the king of the ring Charlotte broke through, but I mean it is it is seven to one raw versus SmackDown as far as the semi finals on of the king and queen of the ring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: dare I say, he show is back, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He show was back and it's going to be a hell of a time of CM Punk's going to smack down because in theory, CM Punk nowadays has been one of like Roman Reigns level top guy, you know, special attraction on the show doesn't wrestle much on TV, wrestles mostly on the paper views, but the segment is something you got to watch for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to be a little bit bummed because I've been able for the last two years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to basically not have to watch SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad Cody Rhodes has been kept on SmackDown because nothing he does on TV is must see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see him punk, see him punk a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like, hey, I wanna know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanna watch that whole segment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, now I'm gonna have to, it's also been nice, I ran to Orton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not because he's injured, but him not being on TV means I really don't have to pay attention to that show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, I'm punks going to be on SmackDown most likely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bumming me a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to watch the stupid show with all the losers on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he may show up on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's going to want to work Fridays, but that's me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at this point, maybe he doesn't have a choice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, some people Cody Rhodes had to switch brands, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Roman Reigns has switched brands going from SmackDown to Raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the great reshuffling without the draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just show up to the other show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther is on SmackDown now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got a nice little show here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got Gunther Cody Rhodes, potentially CM Punk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They tease CM Punk versus Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lead in there to have them on the same show when potentially do something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe we get he'll see a punk at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because Cody Rhodes, John Cena, you are not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At some point, you got to go heal because the crowd's going to turn you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They turned you at WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to turn you again here at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you have a little CM Punk Cody Rhodes on the on the side there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to imagine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we're jumping around a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to get to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: J-Uso is going to be in this final most likely of King of the Ring, great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Potentially, he could win this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to be going up against Rome and so he's going to be working the SmackDown champion which is Cody Rhodes and got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll want to know a main event match at Summerslam that's nobyes that doesn't do anything as far as numbers and tickets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: J-Uso versus Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and maybe J, and maybe this is this kickoff for bloodline truly taking over and somehow there's bloodline on bullshows and they're going to be the champions who knows we got to get to the final of King of the ring first because every week I keep thinking Brock Lesnar is going to come out here and now it's going to Saudi Arabia and are you really going to bring Brock Lesnar all the way to Saudi Arabia just to cause a distraction finish.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to get to on WWE side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're not going to bring Brock all the way out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That cause Brock's always going to be out of there after the first match and on his plane on this way home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unless in less kick of the rig is the first match and you're going to do the distraction there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Brock ain't showing up to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe Oberfemi gets it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do Oberfemi Roman Reigns at Summerslam when you still got the Brock Lesnar, you know, thing hanging out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about all this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting that they had Obafemi get all the way to the finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, I mean, that's not surprising per se.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will be surprising if he loses clean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it will kind of be surprising to me if he wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I expect a Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I expect maybe you have the bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just do their business and get J.U.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now, Obafemi's pissed at everyone and it sets up for what happens next after Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: where you have Obofemi going for a Roman Reigns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there's a lot to get to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's open up Jeff with everything that we just said, the top story of everything we just said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK. OK.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Leo Rush's really getting more TV time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this dreadful character, this character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to see people talk about how Leo Rush is getting this character over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This character is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it not to me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Leo, Leo, Leo Rush, be in weird being gold dust, but darker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Leo Rush.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Darker is darker is in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He assholes out there, not scapegoat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: know the people will trash me for things that are said because of what you said it so what you said it I mean don't watch the youtube video that was Jeff Hawkins on the doing his best rob Mcereon impersonation okay yeah no I do like Leo Rush but not this character I wish he was playing something akin to what Kevin Knight's playing right now because I've always seemed to be the the under-size cocky guy but yeah I okay you
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't actually want to talk about the rush outside of the fact that, uh, yeah, your main event of forbidden door, which is next weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So next weekend's a pretty big weekend in, uh, in pro wrestling because next weekend, you're going to have on the Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have night of champions on the Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You are going to have all Elite Wrestling presenting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: forbidden door which forbidden door might be a paper view that's kind of running its course all a bit to me because every week, every week on dynamite in collision, every paper view is New Japan versus AEW versus CMLL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The stars are on all the shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a special event anymore and your main event is
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[SPEAKER_02]: a what a six man tag team match 1 2 3 4 5 6 man tag team match that doesn't have a new Japan element to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're only real new Japan matches are showed a human over his pack for the global heavyweight championship, which you would think global heavyweight title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's their number one title, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have Kenny Omega versus Zack Saber Jr.
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[SPEAKER_03]: who doesn't even get to promo last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I act just because Zack Saber Jr.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, talk about a guy who's not important in American television and really not that big of a guy that's like, oh, he's new Japan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's Zack Saber Jr. Are you 15 years ago?
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 years ago, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 years ago, 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're wasting Kenny Omega matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're wasting them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get many of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hate to say this because I like him a lot, but there's no intrigue in the Mark Briscoe winning the title story because nobody believes that you're ever gonna give the title of Mark Briscoe this quickly after putting it on Darby Allen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I don't think you're ever putting the title on Mark Briscoe period.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you'd be doing a service to your TV audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't be doing a service to your stories if Mark Brisco was the world champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's one of those where, I mean, a Mark Brisco title reign would have to be built up kind of like Daniel Bryan's title reign in the early two tens, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this has to be crowd swallow support.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gotta make sure it's there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really put him over as an underdog, but wins on the rise up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he's won some matches here and there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but he doesn't have that huge ground swell support from the crowd i mean you put them in the ring with mjf and people still want to see what mgf has to say they still want to they still want to boo and share for mjf he's the star in that segment as you put mark brisco in that segment with okay you imagine zac saber junior versus mark brisco getting 20 minutes of tv time for a promo battle it be the lowest rated segment in dynamite history
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I like Mark Briscoe, okay?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this isn't his role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His role isn't to be the top challenger to the world champ.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't, yeah, you can't do the populist underdog champion this quickly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: After already having a populist underdog champion, it's just, it just kills the entire vibe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Darby, especially, yeah, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go keep going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Keep going?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Darby was a pillar, Mark Briscoe, you know, well, he's a great story, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just point, I'm pointing at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, for the YouTube, for the five people who watch the YouTube video, they're seeing me do pointies right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, get to your point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanna hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you're gonna have to put the the next guy going to mjf not so much of an underdog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But say it's will Osprey say will Osprey beats Swerv Strickland here and is the next challenger at all in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's gonna be bullshittery with the Don Calls family and mjf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be an underdog challenger.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you just Darby Allen underdog challenger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Brisco underdog challenger will ask for a coming off next next surgery going up against the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of an underdog challenger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You would think that you might want to save some of these underdog challenger stories for the big match and your biggest paper view of the year all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think MJF's going to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all in anything that far away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you have this retribution in between in Montreal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's where they're going to set the Tony Con 5 star.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Newsletter geeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All star work rate match type thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're just going to be like, OK, we'll get like a one month build for Kenny and Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Although I could see Osprey and MJF at all in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because right now you have redemption on July 26 in Montreal, which very well could be a big match for Adam Copeland and Cage, possibly just Adam Copeland that could be a big night for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that's like one of your main events there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then August 30 is all in in Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... right now there's no all out or uh... yet all out scheduled so who knows what might happen uh... very well could be two weeks after that or the week after that that you have all out i don't think they're doing that they're doing it either but uh... yet august thirty of so you have two months you have this paper to get through and then two months so yes i suppose it's possible the mjfs in the champion uh... that's a big match i mean will austrian mjf would be a huge match for all
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega and Will Osprey would be a huge match for all of them, but I think MJ F and Will Osprey was is the biggest match you have in that promotion for the Wembley stadium show interesting okay because because I see the AEW fan base, which is far more interested in not in heat, but in shit in the
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[SPEAKER_02]: are more interested than just a mashup of all this shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what will be the match rating on this kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the I think there's the majority of the AEW heads want the Osprey Omega match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want Osprey Omega too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying not every big match you have has to take place between the start and end of summer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, you have time frame after summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony, like there shows after all in, but you can, that you can save Kenny Omega 4, that you can save Swerve 4, that you can save Adam Page 4.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just know we're going to get whatever happens at Wemley Stadium, Outcomes, Outcomes Adam Page, and that's your big next match, and you just won't let anything sit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, if we'll ask for a wins in Wendley Stadium, I'm guessing there's no post match like challenge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, they're going to end with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have the feel good moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, MJ F and will Osprey with two months of build.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, I'm in for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the crowd would eat it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I especially most likely that means will Osprey is winning more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think it would be much more energetic crowd of like getting will Osprey even more over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can have Kenny Omega being his next challenger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, two months, two months in AEW is a long time, because you never know what's going to change here on Dynamite, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just the whole different direction, or someone else joining the Don Cal's family, or John Moxley throwing a wrench into something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just never know what's going to happen on AEW TV any week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not always a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad we're starting with WWE and not AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a few of the matches, a few of the matches for night of champions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine that we probably are getting at least one more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because right now there's four is the camera in the final.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another ring final, queen of the ring final, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ron Braker versus Seth Rollins and a cage match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which I would imagine I don't know if Bronbraker actually accepted on Raw if he did I missed that segment of the show, but we got the challenge out there, they're not doing the challenge unless that match is happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to happen and then you have, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a fourth one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I swear trick Williams is going to defend the United States championship either against Ricky Saints or Carmelo Hayes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So right now, that is the four matches that are scheduled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I figure we'll probably get at least one more, but yeah, that your main event Seth Rollins, Ron Breaker, potentially for the final time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a steel cage match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the Seth promo was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go out on a limb and say trick Williams is going to be defending against both Ricky Saints and Carmelo Hayes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the three way on the WWE semi-level paper view?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No that way, that way, that way trick and rest outside while the other two have a work rate match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does Ricky Saints have work rate matches?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're giving Ricky Saints more credit than he deserves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the women's tag matches are going to be on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's I think that might be on this show too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, because right now you only have the one women's match at CO sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, going up against what I think it'll be Charlotte or, uh, live Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have re-riply on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now, reapply is heard, so potentially not making this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in theory, the fifth match would have been the SmackDown Women's Championship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So do you replace it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does something else happen with the women's championship as reapply?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to drop it on the SmackDown prior.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's questions there still.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I figure you'll get at least five matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Queen of the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, there's one SmackDown competitor angling for the final on the raw side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all raw on the on the on the men's side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all raw with overfemmy defending.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obafemi closed out raw this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not talking about his potential opponent in the King of the Ring final.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Still calling out Brock Lesnar expecting he also expects Brock Lesnar should show up on the show and fuck him over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So why not do it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just do it as he suspects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that would make our king of the ring, who?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't forget who's fake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You say you so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Javon Evans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not what King J.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be King J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess you could have King Obofemi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obofemi could win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then gets taken out by broccoli.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What if oh, oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope a family doesn't fit the Roman rain story right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I really don't want him to be challenging Roman rains.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think challenge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Mania next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think maybe somehow the Jay match plays into that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I think he's going to have to go through the bloodline to get to Roman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's that's still several months away because as we as we told Tony Con, there are months that come after the summer months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to plan ahead for that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you very well could have Obafemi win the king of the ring and challenge Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's not necessarily a set in stone challenge or for Cody Rhodes right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you could have Obafemi do that match potentially win the championship, and then go on to be the ruler and then all of a sudden boom you have a title match between Brock Lesnar and Obafemi.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can also have J go up against Cody very easily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think, and that's what I think is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next week we'll do our official preview because we'll have all the matches will know kind of where the stories are going coming from SmackDown and raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll do our official preview for the weekend of pro wrestling that's coming up with night of champions and for bidding door.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, big, big show next week, don't miss it unless, unless my power goes out, then all bets are off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What else did you find interesting from, from TV this week or from TV while you were kind of having to get it in bite size chunks probably while you were traveling?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, that dynamite last week was nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they started with a Shane Taylor John Moxley match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could Shane Taylor win the chip?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he came.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shane Taylor ain't win a match is on dynamite, guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was so disappointed in that will aspiration, Shane, uh, not Shane, uh, swirth strickland, uh, promo back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause it's just two guys talking past each other without anything with the chin of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, after the after that kind of moving moment with Alex Windsor and
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[SPEAKER_03]: and Osprey on Dynamite last week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see that at least where she's crying and you go and then Osprey comes on to the TV this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I took her up to my room and smashed her broth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: talk about another character who just kind of showed up like Alex Windsor just showing up onto a WTV and then like we're supposed to believe that she's already a high level, a high level on the card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know who she is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just going to already there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a difference, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get a new person coming up on a WTV or even WTV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you find out early that yeah, oh, they're going to win a ton of matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of on the high level or maybe you want them to be on a higher level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but Femi is a little bit of this right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but Femi is coming up on TV on raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He first started and he was he was dominating people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, at least he has the NXT time behind him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alex Winder was just kind of up here and is like, oh, Alex Winder, Alex Winder, she's potentially going to be a challenger someday or she's like, in the challenging mix right now, it's my worst thing about AEDW TV is that someone who's never been on AEDW dynamite before, maybe they've wrestled a couple of matches on collision, no one watches, maybe they've been on ring of honor, no one watches, and definitely no one correlates that to AEDW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like Alex Windsor here is a win away from being a title holder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How she hasn't been on the fucking show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just, there's nothing getting me off and wrestling right now, which is kind of upsetting to me other than that triple A mask versus mask Man, but it's not everything is here to get you off Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, like I because I like promos and there are I mean Tech Liz the only person who's giving good promos these days for the most part in any company, but Dude that that that that oh and heart women's tournament
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[SPEAKER_03]: The finals are two people who weren't even in the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, I mean, as lackluster as the king of the ring, tournament has been on both the men's and women's side in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Owen Hart tournament is as equal or not worse a disaster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say it's a stupid tournament because like, yes, it's a memorial for Owen Hart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish that wasn't the case because it's just dumb.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just have a, I mean, no one cares about the results, all the sudden, no one cares about the results until the final to see who goes on for the championship match, but...
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one, I don't know the women's side, but even the entrance that are in it, you're like, there's no one in here that I would wanna see in a paper view title match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are the Mercedes or the... Other than Mercedes, who again, just showed back up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, yeah, and that's the problem with the Owen Hard is that it's supposed to get you excited for the two title matches at Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're just like, no, kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: King and Queen of the Ring,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is a mess because they make it a mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's like, oh, we're going to have these four ways into then getting into the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just messy matches and choreography and nobody's saying what the tournament means to them and all these other things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't get emotionally involved in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no feud.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we talked about this two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no feud in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's hot, and there's no, and M.J.F.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is the only thing that gets you into the building in AEW for a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because Moxley's doing his Wii, Moxley this week, cemented that he's playing a Patrick's Waysie character again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was doing Bodie from Point Break.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These past few weeks with the death of writers in Osprey playing his piano Reeves, this week he goes into a roadhouse, Patrick Swacey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just words, you don't mean anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just words.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of just words, you are cursed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have been words that have not only set up the main event
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[SPEAKER_02]: of Saturday night's main event coming in July from Madison Square Garden.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The main event is the fact that Dan Housen is going to be there, so we're going to see the New York crowd finally get some time to celebrate the true hero of the NBA championships Dan Housen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this guy has been, oh, talk about it, get for, he's paying for himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, he's paying for his entire contract by getting WWE press even more alongside the win from the New York, Nixon, the NBA finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When this first started, it was kind of a funny moment, Dan Housen, he curses people, he's going to curse the Nixon, he's going to uncurse him, we'll see where it goes, and man, this could not have paid off any better for WWE, and now they have a serious tie in to where Dan Housen is appearing on sports shows, because he is the guy who led the Nixon to the
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's all over ESPN with the Steven A Smith stuff, but even better is like because Jalen Bronson is such a WWE fan, he's embrace it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Timothy Schallemay thing with the WWE belt, because he's a, I mean, he was, he's been a wrestling fan for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a, and a legit New York Nick's fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the most legit New York Nick's fan in that building is Timothy, Timothy Schallemay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and even the celebrity fans of the New York next time embraced it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, like you could not get
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[SPEAKER_03]: like we've had these moments before like when the San Francisco Giants co-opted the Brian Danielson yes-chant or Daniel Bryan yes-chant and then WWE sought to basically step all over it for the most part and say let me go although this has been an odd thing where they have turned on the marketing machine because you can get all sorts of Dan House and New York
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not all overall necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they've let it, I mean, they did the one vignette and you know, but they let Dan has and do his normal in-between commercial stuff on the Netflix feed, but it hasn't been forced down your throat, necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's one of those things where but it's also one of those things you can't really capitalize on because Dan has it's not gonna be the guy you put into matches necessarily that are gonna get a lot of fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he can do the fun type of matches, like he did on Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, he can do the comedy match for, and I think it might actually lead to something like Dan Housing and Jalen Brunson versus Tyre's Hall of Burton and like the miss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, you know, those types of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I think we're saying definitely not Tyrease because Tyrease ain't going to do anything until he gets on the court again coming out his injury, but yeah, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want some celebrity involvement, it does doesn't have to be a hard hitting match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get paid, get paid Dan House, and that's all I'm saying, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: he is he's making a boatload of cash not just for himself but for WWE being involved in this connection here to the point where you might have some nicks in the crowd for Saturday night's made event you can say to have the ESPN WWE synergy because of all this even more and it's pretty organic I mean it's not like it's forced down your throat this is organic ESPN WWE
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[SPEAKER_02]: collaboration here with Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, this is this is the face of a guy that's going to be one of the WWE superstars Superstars seen most on ESPN in the next month is going to be Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not not see him punk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not Jade Cargill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, and kids have taken to this thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's face painting booths at WWE shows where you get your face painted like Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: get your face painted like the star where the mask, you know, buy the mask for 30, 40 bucks, why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there's going to be, uh, there's going to be a lot of Danhausen coming at Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the few shows now that is still on peacock,
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[SPEAKER_02]: for WWE for the time being, I suppose.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is still going on peacock there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll have that in a few weeks because I think it's three weeks after Night of Champions is going to be the next Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if it gets a better show than Fort Wayne in the United.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As much as how does the crowd was in Fort Wayne?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a nothing, uh, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think they're going to go all out for MSG.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very well, could be that's where you get a title match, like an actual world title match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think your main event's going to be pent up at the IC title in that one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do we get all the alisters on the MSG card?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we get all of them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two weeks after that, a summer slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So no, you're not going to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're getting Roman Reigns working to match until summer slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK. Because whatever is going to happen, Saturday night's main event might have something to do with summer slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm maybe whoever, you know, Oberfemi, you can do Oberfemi Brock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: not even wait until Minnesota, you know, everyone thinks that it's just going to be all well, it's happening in Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So why not do Brock Lesnar's match there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he could be the main event of MSG.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He could, but I, if that, you know, what if they did, like say an Ober Cody match and he once said MSG, that's where he could bring out Brock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the only negative with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the only reason why I think it wouldn't happen is we still have that prospect of WWE kind of watering down the NBC cards because they want all the big stuff to be on ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you're going to have an A-Lister on Saturday Night's Made Event because it's New York because it's an SG, you're not getting the Brock Lesnar match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I forget that it's peacock only sometimes in public isn't worth pushing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's this redheaded stepchild of Saturday night's main event that still lives on peacock and doesn't live in the actual WWE universe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's just out there and we don't talk about it afterwards too much, we don't talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know ever since the retirements ever since John Cena left Saturday night's main event not as big of a deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of which, there was a story this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The few W's still doesn't know what the John Cena classics gonna be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, of course not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're getting it this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if we get it, it's gonna be...
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we get it, it's gonna be December.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're getting it this year, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's just, it's just an analysis thing and they don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have a date.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're going to do it eventually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to believe they're going to do it eventually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's just not, they have a date for John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to do it now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's something, you know, triple H is like, let's do a tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then they realize that, oh, there's kind of a tournament going on and John Cena classic may not be an actual tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of in that vein where, you know, someone's going to win the night, even though they're not wrestling each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I think, okay, we got King of the Rings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can't do it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got some or slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a two-night extravaganza.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to have Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have a couple of Saturday night's main events like will this show live on a Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it will eventually I honestly thought that the Fort Wayne Saturday night's main event happening in May was going to be the John Cena classic because that's about the time he announced it and you're like okay that makes sense do that for Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they're going to do this match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to do this show, but it's not until December at the earliest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't do it after that because then you got WrestleMania and the raw Rumble and all these things that are happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if they don't do it in December, December of this year, you're not going to see it until probably the summer of next year at the earliest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the post mania between.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because, because, because, yeah, well, money in the bank, it moved from summer to fall this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, and if they were, well, actually, you know what, you could, and, oh, because you have Sarah and I made a bet, it would have to be silly season in between.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mania and summer slam somehow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what would be silly season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that again, they don't know how they're going to run this John Cena classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Will it be, why not combine it with the money in the bank match, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hear me out here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, there would be too many matches on the show to do it at money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you have, you have five matches on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the crowd has to vote for who their best favorite performer was in that match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they go on to the money in the bank match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the five winners of that of the matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well not the winners of the matches know the winners of the fan vote of the vote right because you can have you could have a fan favorite you could have Who would you even have?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know who's a fan favorite that could lose and still get voted maybe a Javan Evans like a Javan Evans Ray went up in stereo Ray Mysterio
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remisterial versus Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He thinks he's going to get in that money than the bank for a contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fan is voted for Ray.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he gets into the match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Broken down Ray, Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just got my ass beat by Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now you're making me climb a ladder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So your winner of the money in the bank is the winner of the John Cena Classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, my last thing for this episode of Shake Them Robes, Jeff, I wanted to get this is a, kind of a sad story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not, you know, all fun and games, uh, the RKO is a devastating maneuver, and ever since, Jelly Roll suffered that RKO, his life has not been the same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ants on your grave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dishy Greder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, it is Shake Them Ropes Rob McHare and here joined by Jeff Hawkins as always no weeks off ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to start by, uh, so I live in Northern Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Hawkins, you as everyone knows lives in Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And last, last week, Thursday, it was a week ago, around this time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we had a string of thunderstorms that turned into supercell city.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... we had eight i think i think the ending number became twenty-one but in northern indiana there were at least eight confirm tornadoes well in northern indiana where i was there was a confirmed f-two within a mile of my house uh... heard it quite the fun story uh... but all the all this to say there was a lot of weather last week uh... i had no power for three days
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[SPEAKER_02]: including starting on that afternoon late afternoon of Thursday, so I do want to apologize to everyone that there was no shake them ropes last week, but I had no power to record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff was traveling, so he already wasn't going to be a part of the episode, and I'm like, do I get a hotel to record shake them ropes?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, so much I stayed here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I stayed here with no power and I was like, okay, well, the storms pass were hiding in the lower level because like it was loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very gusty found out later, you know, I knew there was something going on nearby because I could hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But found out later there was an F2 that rolled, you know, from a mile to my house to about three miles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a long one and it lasted about three minutes
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but yeah so we heard all that going on so at first i'm just like you know my wife my dog and i were just kind of hanging out down here and uh... stay in a way from windows like uh... the last thing on my mind at that moment with shake them robs
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, I probably shouldn't have waited until Thursday afternoon to record since it was just me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could have gone earlier and gotten it to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But something came up the night before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I even told you I was like, ah, something's coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't do it this night, but I'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our usual time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then God was like, no, you won't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll do it this morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't look at us like what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, oh, yeah, tournado.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I'll tournado.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been so pretty we had some pretty bad wind and thunderstorms last Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, going into Thursday and Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as bad as yours, but it was still.
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[SPEAKER_02]: blue out I was in a restaurant at the power blue out and air by left right as my food game like the power was not good it was not great yeah so we had some pretty strong storms and they just didn't stop they went through the entirety of Indiana you know all through Illinois it was constant and then in the in Ohio and Michigan too so I mean those storms are crazy didn't get power back until Saturday night so Thursday Friday Saturday all day
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we had some other thunderstorms come in last night, but luckily not as bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we are ready to talk about night of champions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, ready to talk about the the biggest story of the week, which is, uh, Christiana Ronaldo is pretty bad at soccer now, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yeah, we're just going to talk about the world of wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You might even, you, you are gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know how in tuned are you with the pro wrestling landscape on TV as of the last couple weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm fairly in tune with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to ask this question, Rob.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ask it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is the point of LA night?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watch this raw this bad one day and my got like this guy about I want to say six months ago maybe a little longer like he was on that
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[SPEAKER_03]: upper card like at one time he was actually top three and merch sales when he was on this hot streak and you thought well maybe you could do something with him maybe I'm not saying definitely but maybe you could do something with him his job every week now is to come out basically say I'm gonna get screwed by the usos who
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[SPEAKER_03]: lose to someone within this bloodline thing and look like an absolute geek because he knows what's going to happen and then he just loses and the crowd it's like the crowd pops for his entrance and then everybody knows he's just going to lose whatever match he's in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: it's one of those things where it's like there's nothing for him to do and he looks dumb doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's almost a female equivalent in Lyra of Alchiria, but I'm not going to go that far with her just yet, but L.A. Knight is there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey man, the bloodlines back and they're bad guys, and then he gets his ass beat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all he does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that aspect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he weren't still kind of prominent as far as the people he's working with, because he, yeah, it is the bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is the use, sos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He reminds me of a dear, remember this name, Jeff Hawkins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just Joe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He reminds me of just Joe because all he's doing is every once in a while who come in bugged the general manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knowing full well he's a nuisance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He comes in and he and Adam Pierce turns and it's L.A. night and L.A. night's like, yeah, it's me again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I'm just going to keep bugging you and not really solve anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now now, now at least he's going to do it his way and his way involves getting his ass beat by everyone all at once.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and not having a plan, not having friends, no friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, what the fuck happened to his tag team partners at WrestleMania, you know, where are the street profits out, where are all these guys who also have problems with the vision and the bloodline?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, I guess now there's the bloodline and the vision on the same show, so you have too much going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're splitting up all the baby faces, so they can't really help out each other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, it's like LA 9.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I almost have the same visceral reaction as I do to John Moxley's entrance music from Times Now because it's just like, ah, there comes another here comes another LA 9 segment where he comes out he goes, let me talk to you everybody says LA 9 and then he just gets beat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just gets beat here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How a, how pathetic are you if you're a SmackDown superstar?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got half and half wrong SmackDown in the men's king of the ring tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm I'm segueing because of LA night, LA night, I obviously lost his first round match, but so did everyone on the SmackDown brand because it's only raw from the semi finals on at least in the king of the ring Charlotte broke through, but I mean it is it is seven to one raw versus SmackDown as far as the semi finals on of the king and queen of the ring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: dare I say, he show is back, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He show was back and it's going to be a hell of a time of CM Punk's going to smack down because in theory, CM Punk nowadays has been one of like Roman Reigns level top guy, you know, special attraction on the show doesn't wrestle much on TV, wrestles mostly on the paper views, but the segment is something you got to watch for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to be a little bit bummed because I've been able for the last two years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to basically not have to watch SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad Cody Rhodes has been kept on SmackDown because nothing he does on TV is must see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see him punk, see him punk a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like, hey, I wanna know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanna watch that whole segment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, now I'm gonna have to, it's also been nice, I ran to Orton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not because he's injured, but him not being on TV means I really don't have to pay attention to that show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, I'm punks going to be on SmackDown most likely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bumming me a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to watch the stupid show with all the losers on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he may show up on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's going to want to work Fridays, but that's me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at this point, maybe he doesn't have a choice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, some people Cody Rhodes had to switch brands, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Roman Reigns has switched brands going from SmackDown to Raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the great reshuffling without the draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just show up to the other show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther is on SmackDown now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got a nice little show here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got Gunther Cody Rhodes, potentially CM Punk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They tease CM Punk versus Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lead in there to have them on the same show when potentially do something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe we get he'll see a punk at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because Cody Rhodes, John Cena, you are not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At some point, you got to go heal because the crowd's going to turn you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They turned you at WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to turn you again here at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you have a little CM Punk Cody Rhodes on the on the side there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to imagine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we're jumping around a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to get to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: J-Uso is going to be in this final most likely of King of the Ring, great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Potentially, he could win this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to be going up against Rome and so he's going to be working the SmackDown champion which is Cody Rhodes and got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll want to know a main event match at Summerslam that's nobyes that doesn't do anything as far as numbers and tickets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: J-Uso versus Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and maybe J, and maybe this is this kickoff for bloodline truly taking over and somehow there's bloodline on bullshows and they're going to be the champions who knows we got to get to the final of King of the ring first because every week I keep thinking Brock Lesnar is going to come out here and now it's going to Saudi Arabia and are you really going to bring Brock Lesnar all the way to Saudi Arabia just to cause a distraction finish.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to get to on WWE side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're not going to bring Brock all the way out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That cause Brock's always going to be out of there after the first match and on his plane on this way home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unless in less kick of the rig is the first match and you're going to do the distraction there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Brock ain't showing up to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe Oberfemi gets it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do Oberfemi Roman Reigns at Summerslam when you still got the Brock Lesnar, you know, thing hanging out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about all this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting that they had Obafemi get all the way to the finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, I mean, that's not surprising per se.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will be surprising if he loses clean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it will kind of be surprising to me if he wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I expect a Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I expect maybe you have the bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just do their business and get J.U.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now, Obafemi's pissed at everyone and it sets up for what happens next after Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: where you have Obofemi going for a Roman Reigns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there's a lot to get to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's open up Jeff with everything that we just said, the top story of everything we just said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK. OK.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Leo Rush's really getting more TV time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this dreadful character, this character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to see people talk about how Leo Rush is getting this character over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This character is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it not to me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Leo, Leo, Leo Rush, be in weird being gold dust, but darker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Leo Rush.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Darker is darker is in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He assholes out there, not scapegoat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: know the people will trash me for things that are said because of what you said it so what you said it I mean don't watch the youtube video that was Jeff Hawkins on the doing his best rob Mcereon impersonation okay yeah no I do like Leo Rush but not this character I wish he was playing something akin to what Kevin Knight's playing right now because I've always seemed to be the the under-size cocky guy but yeah I okay you
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't actually want to talk about the rush outside of the fact that, uh, yeah, your main event of forbidden door, which is next weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So next weekend's a pretty big weekend in, uh, in pro wrestling because next weekend, you're going to have on the Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have night of champions on the Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You are going to have all Elite Wrestling presenting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: forbidden door which forbidden door might be a paper view that's kind of running its course all a bit to me because every week, every week on dynamite in collision, every paper view is New Japan versus AEW versus CMLL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The stars are on all the shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a special event anymore and your main event is
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[SPEAKER_02]: a what a six man tag team match 1 2 3 4 5 6 man tag team match that doesn't have a new Japan element to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're only real new Japan matches are showed a human over his pack for the global heavyweight championship, which you would think global heavyweight title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's their number one title, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have Kenny Omega versus Zack Saber Jr.
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[SPEAKER_03]: who doesn't even get to promo last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I act just because Zack Saber Jr.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, talk about a guy who's not important in American television and really not that big of a guy that's like, oh, he's new Japan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's Zack Saber Jr. Are you 15 years ago?
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 years ago, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 years ago, 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're wasting Kenny Omega matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're wasting them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get many of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hate to say this because I like him a lot, but there's no intrigue in the Mark Briscoe winning the title story because nobody believes that you're ever gonna give the title of Mark Briscoe this quickly after putting it on Darby Allen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I don't think you're ever putting the title on Mark Briscoe period.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you'd be doing a service to your TV audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't be doing a service to your stories if Mark Brisco was the world champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's one of those where, I mean, a Mark Brisco title reign would have to be built up kind of like Daniel Bryan's title reign in the early two tens, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this has to be crowd swallow support.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gotta make sure it's there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really put him over as an underdog, but wins on the rise up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he's won some matches here and there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but he doesn't have that huge ground swell support from the crowd i mean you put them in the ring with mjf and people still want to see what mgf has to say they still want to they still want to boo and share for mjf he's the star in that segment as you put mark brisco in that segment with okay you imagine zac saber junior versus mark brisco getting 20 minutes of tv time for a promo battle it be the lowest rated segment in dynamite history
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I like Mark Briscoe, okay?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this isn't his role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His role isn't to be the top challenger to the world champ.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't, yeah, you can't do the populist underdog champion this quickly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: After already having a populist underdog champion, it's just, it just kills the entire vibe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Darby, especially, yeah, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go keep going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Keep going?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Darby was a pillar, Mark Briscoe, you know, well, he's a great story, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just point, I'm pointing at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, for the YouTube, for the five people who watch the YouTube video, they're seeing me do pointies right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, get to your point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanna hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you're gonna have to put the the next guy going to mjf not so much of an underdog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But say it's will Osprey say will Osprey beats Swerv Strickland here and is the next challenger at all in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's gonna be bullshittery with the Don Calls family and mjf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be an underdog challenger.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you just Darby Allen underdog challenger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Brisco underdog challenger will ask for a coming off next next surgery going up against the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of an underdog challenger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You would think that you might want to save some of these underdog challenger stories for the big match and your biggest paper view of the year all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think MJF's going to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all in anything that far away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you have this retribution in between in Montreal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's where they're going to set the Tony Con 5 star.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Newsletter geeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All star work rate match type thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're just going to be like, OK, we'll get like a one month build for Kenny and Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Although I could see Osprey and MJF at all in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because right now you have redemption on July 26 in Montreal, which very well could be a big match for Adam Copeland and Cage, possibly just Adam Copeland that could be a big night for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that's like one of your main events there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then August 30 is all in in Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... right now there's no all out or uh... yet all out scheduled so who knows what might happen uh... very well could be two weeks after that or the week after that that you have all out i don't think they're doing that they're doing it either but uh... yet august thirty of so you have two months you have this paper to get through and then two months so yes i suppose it's possible the mjfs in the champion uh... that's a big match i mean will austrian mjf would be a huge match for all
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega and Will Osprey would be a huge match for all of them, but I think MJ F and Will Osprey was is the biggest match you have in that promotion for the Wembley stadium show interesting okay because because I see the AEW fan base, which is far more interested in not in heat, but in shit in the
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[SPEAKER_02]: are more interested than just a mashup of all this shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what will be the match rating on this kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the I think there's the majority of the AEW heads want the Osprey Omega match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want Osprey Omega too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying not every big match you have has to take place between the start and end of summer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, you have time frame after summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony, like there shows after all in, but you can, that you can save Kenny Omega 4, that you can save Swerve 4, that you can save Adam Page 4.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just know we're going to get whatever happens at Wemley Stadium, Outcomes, Outcomes Adam Page, and that's your big next match, and you just won't let anything sit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, if we'll ask for a wins in Wendley Stadium, I'm guessing there's no post match like challenge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, they're going to end with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have the feel good moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, MJ F and will Osprey with two months of build.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, I'm in for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the crowd would eat it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I especially most likely that means will Osprey is winning more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think it would be much more energetic crowd of like getting will Osprey even more over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can have Kenny Omega being his next challenger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, two months, two months in AEW is a long time, because you never know what's going to change here on Dynamite, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just the whole different direction, or someone else joining the Don Cal's family, or John Moxley throwing a wrench into something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just never know what's going to happen on AEW TV any week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not always a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad we're starting with WWE and not AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a few of the matches, a few of the matches for night of champions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine that we probably are getting at least one more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because right now there's four is the camera in the final.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another ring final, queen of the ring final, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ron Braker versus Seth Rollins and a cage match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which I would imagine I don't know if Bronbraker actually accepted on Raw if he did I missed that segment of the show, but we got the challenge out there, they're not doing the challenge unless that match is happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to happen and then you have, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a fourth one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I swear trick Williams is going to defend the United States championship either against Ricky Saints or Carmelo Hayes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So right now, that is the four matches that are scheduled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I figure we'll probably get at least one more, but yeah, that your main event Seth Rollins, Ron Breaker, potentially for the final time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a steel cage match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the Seth promo was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go out on a limb and say trick Williams is going to be defending against both Ricky Saints and Carmelo Hayes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the three way on the WWE semi-level paper view?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No that way, that way, that way trick and rest outside while the other two have a work rate match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does Ricky Saints have work rate matches?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're giving Ricky Saints more credit than he deserves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the women's tag matches are going to be on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's I think that might be on this show too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, because right now you only have the one women's match at CO sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, going up against what I think it'll be Charlotte or, uh, live Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have re-riply on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now, reapply is heard, so potentially not making this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in theory, the fifth match would have been the SmackDown Women's Championship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So do you replace it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does something else happen with the women's championship as reapply?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to drop it on the SmackDown prior.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's questions there still.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I figure you'll get at least five matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Queen of the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, there's one SmackDown competitor angling for the final on the raw side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all raw on the on the on the men's side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all raw with overfemmy defending.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obafemi closed out raw this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not talking about his potential opponent in the King of the Ring final.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Still calling out Brock Lesnar expecting he also expects Brock Lesnar should show up on the show and fuck him over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So why not do it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just do it as he suspects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that would make our king of the ring, who?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't forget who's fake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You say you so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Javon Evans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not what King J.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be King J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess you could have King Obofemi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obofemi could win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then gets taken out by broccoli.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What if oh, oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope a family doesn't fit the Roman rain story right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I really don't want him to be challenging Roman rains.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think challenge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's Mania next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think maybe somehow the Jay match plays into that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I think he's going to have to go through the bloodline to get to Roman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's that's still several months away because as we as we told Tony Con, there are months that come after the summer months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to plan ahead for that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you very well could have Obafemi win the king of the ring and challenge Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's not necessarily a set in stone challenge or for Cody Rhodes right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you could have Obafemi do that match potentially win the championship, and then go on to be the ruler and then all of a sudden boom you have a title match between Brock Lesnar and Obafemi.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can also have J go up against Cody very easily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think, and that's what I think is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next week we'll do our official preview because we'll have all the matches will know kind of where the stories are going coming from SmackDown and raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll do our official preview for the weekend of pro wrestling that's coming up with night of champions and for bidding door.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, big, big show next week, don't miss it unless, unless my power goes out, then all bets are off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What else did you find interesting from, from TV this week or from TV while you were kind of having to get it in bite size chunks probably while you were traveling?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, that dynamite last week was nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they started with a Shane Taylor John Moxley match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could Shane Taylor win the chip?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he came.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shane Taylor ain't win a match is on dynamite, guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was so disappointed in that will aspiration, Shane, uh, not Shane, uh, swirth strickland, uh, promo back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause it's just two guys talking past each other without anything with the chin of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, after the after that kind of moving moment with Alex Windsor and
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[SPEAKER_03]: and Osprey on Dynamite last week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see that at least where she's crying and you go and then Osprey comes on to the TV this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I took her up to my room and smashed her broth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: talk about another character who just kind of showed up like Alex Windsor just showing up onto a WTV and then like we're supposed to believe that she's already a high level, a high level on the card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know who she is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just going to already there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a difference, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get a new person coming up on a WTV or even WTV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you find out early that yeah, oh, they're going to win a ton of matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of on the high level or maybe you want them to be on a higher level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but Femi is a little bit of this right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but Femi is coming up on TV on raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He first started and he was he was dominating people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, at least he has the NXT time behind him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alex Winder was just kind of up here and is like, oh, Alex Winder, Alex Winder, she's potentially going to be a challenger someday or she's like, in the challenging mix right now, it's my worst thing about AEDW TV is that someone who's never been on AEDW dynamite before, maybe they've wrestled a couple of matches on collision, no one watches, maybe they've been on ring of honor, no one watches, and definitely no one correlates that to AEDW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like Alex Windsor here is a win away from being a title holder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How she hasn't been on the fucking show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just, there's nothing getting me off and wrestling right now, which is kind of upsetting to me other than that triple A mask versus mask Man, but it's not everything is here to get you off Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, like I because I like promos and there are I mean Tech Liz the only person who's giving good promos these days for the most part in any company, but Dude that that that that oh and heart women's tournament
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[SPEAKER_03]: The finals are two people who weren't even in the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, I mean, as lackluster as the king of the ring, tournament has been on both the men's and women's side in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Owen Hart tournament is as equal or not worse a disaster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say it's a stupid tournament because like, yes, it's a memorial for Owen Hart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish that wasn't the case because it's just dumb.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just have a, I mean, no one cares about the results, all the sudden, no one cares about the results until the final to see who goes on for the championship match, but...
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one, I don't know the women's side, but even the entrance that are in it, you're like, there's no one in here that I would wanna see in a paper view title match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are the Mercedes or the... Other than Mercedes, who again, just showed back up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, yeah, and that's the problem with the Owen Hard is that it's supposed to get you excited for the two title matches at Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're just like, no, kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: King and Queen of the Ring,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is a mess because they make it a mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's like, oh, we're going to have these four ways into then getting into the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just messy matches and choreography and nobody's saying what the tournament means to them and all these other things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't get emotionally involved in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no feud.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we talked about this two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no feud in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's hot, and there's no, and M.J.F.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is the only thing that gets you into the building in AEW for a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because Moxley's doing his Wii, Moxley this week, cemented that he's playing a Patrick's Waysie character again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was doing Bodie from Point Break.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These past few weeks with the death of writers in Osprey playing his piano Reeves, this week he goes into a roadhouse, Patrick Swacey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just words, you don't mean anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just words.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of just words, you are cursed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have been words that have not only set up the main event
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[SPEAKER_02]: of Saturday night's main event coming in July from Madison Square Garden.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The main event is the fact that Dan Housen is going to be there, so we're going to see the New York crowd finally get some time to celebrate the true hero of the NBA championships Dan Housen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this guy has been, oh, talk about it, get for, he's paying for himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, he's paying for his entire contract by getting WWE press even more alongside the win from the New York, Nixon, the NBA finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When this first started, it was kind of a funny moment, Dan Housen, he curses people, he's going to curse the Nixon, he's going to uncurse him, we'll see where it goes, and man, this could not have paid off any better for WWE, and now they have a serious tie in to where Dan Housen is appearing on sports shows, because he is the guy who led the Nixon to the
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's all over ESPN with the Steven A Smith stuff, but even better is like because Jalen Bronson is such a WWE fan, he's embrace it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Timothy Schallemay thing with the WWE belt, because he's a, I mean, he was, he's been a wrestling fan for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a, and a legit New York Nick's fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the most legit New York Nick's fan in that building is Timothy, Timothy Schallemay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and even the celebrity fans of the New York next time embraced it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, like you could not get
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[SPEAKER_03]: like we've had these moments before like when the San Francisco Giants co-opted the Brian Danielson yes-chant or Daniel Bryan yes-chant and then WWE sought to basically step all over it for the most part and say let me go although this has been an odd thing where they have turned on the marketing machine because you can get all sorts of Dan House and New York
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not all overall necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they've let it, I mean, they did the one vignette and you know, but they let Dan has and do his normal in-between commercial stuff on the Netflix feed, but it hasn't been forced down your throat, necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's one of those things where but it's also one of those things you can't really capitalize on because Dan has it's not gonna be the guy you put into matches necessarily that are gonna get a lot of fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he can do the fun type of matches, like he did on Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, he can do the comedy match for, and I think it might actually lead to something like Dan Housing and Jalen Brunson versus Tyre's Hall of Burton and like the miss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, you know, those types of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I think we're saying definitely not Tyrease because Tyrease ain't going to do anything until he gets on the court again coming out his injury, but yeah, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want some celebrity involvement, it does doesn't have to be a hard hitting match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get paid, get paid Dan House, and that's all I'm saying, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: he is he's making a boatload of cash not just for himself but for WWE being involved in this connection here to the point where you might have some nicks in the crowd for Saturday night's made event you can say to have the ESPN WWE synergy because of all this even more and it's pretty organic I mean it's not like it's forced down your throat this is organic ESPN WWE
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[SPEAKER_02]: collaboration here with Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, this is this is the face of a guy that's going to be one of the WWE superstars Superstars seen most on ESPN in the next month is going to be Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not not see him punk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not Jade Cargill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, and kids have taken to this thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's face painting booths at WWE shows where you get your face painted like Dan Housing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: get your face painted like the star where the mask, you know, buy the mask for 30, 40 bucks, why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there's going to be, uh, there's going to be a lot of Danhausen coming at Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the few shows now that is still on peacock,
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[SPEAKER_02]: for WWE for the time being, I suppose.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is still going on peacock there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll have that in a few weeks because I think it's three weeks after Night of Champions is going to be the next Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if it gets a better show than Fort Wayne in the United.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As much as how does the crowd was in Fort Wayne?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a nothing, uh, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think they're going to go all out for MSG.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very well, could be that's where you get a title match, like an actual world title match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think your main event's going to be pent up at the IC title in that one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do we get all the alisters on the MSG card?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we get all of them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two weeks after that, a summer slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So no, you're not going to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're getting Roman Reigns working to match until summer slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK. Because whatever is going to happen, Saturday night's main event might have something to do with summer slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm maybe whoever, you know, Oberfemi, you can do Oberfemi Brock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: not even wait until Minnesota, you know, everyone thinks that it's just going to be all well, it's happening in Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So why not do Brock Lesnar's match there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he could be the main event of MSG.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He could, but I, if that, you know, what if they did, like say an Ober Cody match and he once said MSG, that's where he could bring out Brock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the only negative with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the only reason why I think it wouldn't happen is we still have that prospect of WWE kind of watering down the NBC cards because they want all the big stuff to be on ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you're going to have an A-Lister on Saturday Night's Made Event because it's New York because it's an SG, you're not getting the Brock Lesnar match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I forget that it's peacock only sometimes in public isn't worth pushing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's this redheaded stepchild of Saturday night's main event that still lives on peacock and doesn't live in the actual WWE universe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's just out there and we don't talk about it afterwards too much, we don't talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know ever since the retirements ever since John Cena left Saturday night's main event not as big of a deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of which, there was a story this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The few W's still doesn't know what the John Cena classics gonna be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, of course not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're getting it this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if we get it, it's gonna be...
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we get it, it's gonna be December.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're getting it this year, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's just, it's just an analysis thing and they don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have a date.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're going to do it eventually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to believe they're going to do it eventually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's just not, they have a date for John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to do it now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's something, you know, triple H is like, let's do a tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then they realize that, oh, there's kind of a tournament going on and John Cena classic may not be an actual tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of in that vein where, you know, someone's going to win the night, even though they're not wrestling each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I think, okay, we got King of the Rings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can't do it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got some or slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a two-night extravaganza.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to have Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have a couple of Saturday night's main events like will this show live on a Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it will eventually I honestly thought that the Fort Wayne Saturday night's main event happening in May was going to be the John Cena classic because that's about the time he announced it and you're like okay that makes sense do that for Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they're going to do this match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to do this show, but it's not until December at the earliest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't do it after that because then you got WrestleMania and the raw Rumble and all these things that are happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if they don't do it in December, December of this year, you're not going to see it until probably the summer of next year at the earliest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the post mania between.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because, because, because, yeah, well, money in the bank, it moved from summer to fall this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, and if they were, well, actually, you know what, you could, and, oh, because you have Sarah and I made a bet, it would have to be silly season in between.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mania and summer slam somehow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what would be silly season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that again, they don't know how they're going to run this John Cena classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Will it be, why not combine it with the money in the bank match, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hear me out here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, there would be too many matches on the show to do it at money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you have, you have five matches on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the crowd has to vote for who their best favorite performer was in that match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they go on to the money in the bank match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the five winners of that of the matches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well not the winners of the matches know the winners of the fan vote of the vote right because you can have you could have a fan favorite you could have Who would you even have?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know who's a fan favorite that could lose and still get voted maybe a Javan Evans like a Javan Evans Ray went up in stereo Ray Mysterio
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remisterial versus Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He thinks he's going to get in that money than the bank for a contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fan is voted for Ray.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he gets into the match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Broken down Ray, Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just got my ass beat by Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now you're making me climb a ladder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So your winner of the money in the bank is the winner of the John Cena Classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, my last thing for this episode of Shake Them Robes, Jeff, I wanted to get this is a, kind of a sad story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not, you know, all fun and games, uh, the RKO is a devastating maneuver, and ever since, Jelly Roll suffered that RKO, his life has not been the same.
