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[SPEAKER_03]: and some of your grave.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Jeff Hawkins, he is Robert McCarran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Rob, I have been watching me some World Cup, and I enjoy the World Cup, but I'm going to tell you something, Rob, I am not going to take any crap about the sanctity of soccer, about this whole redguard thing, when soccer has long been known to be the most corrupt sport in the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hearing, I'm hearing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: people from countries that have governments at last five minutes, telling us that the Americans have ruined the great pure game of soccer because someone complained about a red card, which was done three other times during this World Cup, but apparently we're bad about, but you know what, although why we lost four to one,
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[SPEAKER_03]: There you go, guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it wasn't it wasn't the red card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the rescinding the suspect of the red card, which has not happened this world cup.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was quite a quite a crazy move, but in the end of the day, it didn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, postponed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't rescinded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was
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[SPEAKER_02]: for it was it was suspended yes it was spending so he's basically on a year probation you better be a good boy although at the same time in the next year the U.S. men's national team will not have anything of no no anything important at this point I don't think we can win a gold cup against Mexico or Canada
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[SPEAKER_02]: like that that performance that night was so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the sanctity of of of of soccer of soccer, it'd be like balligans red car being rescinded and allowing him to play as if is if you went on vacation for two months and when you came back you just opened a door and boom you were the world champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would never happen in another real event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff, we have new world champions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just two, three, new world champions over the last week and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk is the new W-W-E. Oh, no, sorry, the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is he?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is the W-W-E?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the W-W-E champion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is the WWE Champion, the World Heavyweight Champion, as Roman Reigns, in AEW, this Wednesday we had, what was widely suspected, Kenny Omega winning the AEW World title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if you've been paying attention, but Nicholas J. Nemeth is the TNA World Champion right now and there's rumors that Mike Santana lost the belt because he's headed
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[SPEAKER_02]: to NXT.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, gosh, every major company has a new world champion, which new world champion Jeff Hawkins is the most notable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Punk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just by nature of it because I think Kenny's only got to hold that belt for about a month until all in and then Will's taking it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so this is this is going to be the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those years where AEW world titles probably going to switch another time after that although Will Osprey could have could be one of those guys who has it for like a year year and a half, maybe till next all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... but at the same time that the belt's been switching quite a bit this calendar year so i'm just baffled that they didn't do this on the paper view in Canada this is the perfect place to do it and also let me ask you this if you're mjf
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know a lot of these things don't really matter, but they kind of matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've now lost the title twice on free television.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you ever want to say, hey, can I lose the title on a paper view?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that it's actually, you know, memorable and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, true, I mean, more people, there's the argument that more people see it when it's on for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so more people are seeing MJF lose this world title, so many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's some type of scheduling conflict.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's possible, MJF's not going to be on the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's possible, Kenny Omega can't be on the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, and correct me if I'm wrong, it's in Montreal, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a hot crowd, but like Montreal is barely Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't want to be Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to be Mon, they want to be Quebec.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Kenny Omega is not from there although maybe is, but I don't think he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a different type of world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where where's Kenny Omega from?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm hard of the ladies from Winnipeg, but don't quote me on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very looking at that too because I believe, yeah, it's from Winnipeg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's from Winnipeg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the whole other side of the nation and be like oh my god uh... Randy orton is defending his belt in new york city which is great because he's from Missouri like it's not it's not the same thing guys uh... it is weird that they didn't do it on the paper view seemingly you didn't have to rush it uh... if only for the fact that they wanted what a month and a half to sell tickets
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they just wanted those two extra weeks of knowing that it's Kenny Omega and Will Osprey to sell tickets for Wembley, that's maybe the main reason I can think of other then, hey, there's someone who may not be available for that night, but if you're that kind of fan, you already knew that Kenny and Will was going to be the match probably at all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you already have probably bought your tickets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Possibly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think everyone who's that kind of fan already has their ticket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that two extra weeks of man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really I really can't miss this of people thinking that oh, you know, I maybe it's going to be mgf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We think it's going to be omega, but they don't have them with a beddle don't pelt on him mgf just one hit from Darby Allen like what does that say about Darby Allen that he's three champions ago now or two champions ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's, there's reasons in Tony Khan's head that he did it for this night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe just wanted to pop some type of number because he's, yes, he's begging, he's begging for some other company.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We might see the year of every big match except for a few are going to be on television because this guy's going to be looking for a new TV deal next time around and he's going to lose his current home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's an interesting night to do it because it's the one night, you know, the respite of the world cup and nothing's there, but it's just, it's just so, yeah, I understand it and it feels very Monday night wars-ish in that paper views are now building to the free television.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for the most of the break, beach break, as much as I am alike, I will never watch collision because your main event is always on draw day versus no name who's not going to be on TV for another three weeks afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: John Moxley versus who even care like Jake Doyle is your main of like these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Collision doesn't have the matches that are like, oh, this could be on a paper viewer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This could be on the dynamite risk is a really big match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynamite lately has not been having those either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been having a lot of squashes that somehow still go 15 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, this this night, I mean beach break line up the line up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's being read out and you're watching match after match and I'm like, holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The paper view is today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This thing that they're going to have in Montreal is going to be a dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The paper view was last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we head to Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Montreal paper views probably gonna be all edge and or coping cage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could very well see MJF versus Omega being rematched on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could also see MJF versus Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF, complaining about his title shot, Osprey being the, you know, the big man he is, I'll put up my title shot to get you out of the picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could see some of these main events coming into place in the next two and a half weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... we still have a loads of time there have been it's going to be speed ball versus the jet for a while could be uh... we'll get to the jet later because Jesus Christ why put him in the group to just two weeks later already caused strife infriction yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: There will never not be friction in the Don Calis family, but we'll get to that in a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There have been all outs that were announced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking that year where there was all out to or all in Wembley and then all out the very next week in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got, we got an all out announcement for Chicago, but it's going to be happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe in September and late in September.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to have some time in between.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there have been weeks where literally they've built an entirely new card in one week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got two and a half weeks now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a whole lot of stuff that could be happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Notability wise, I agree that CM Punk being in the title picture, and also having a big match most likely at SummerSlam is the most notable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Kenny Omega certainly winning, even though a lot of people probably suspected it to happen, definitely throws a wrench in the next...
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[SPEAKER_02]: month and a half of VW TV because now you know you're getting aspirin omega, what's going what's omega going to do after that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, it was a hell of a match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF omega.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that the actual wrestling, including Jericho, although he's starting to get in that Matt Hardy territory where he can barely move and his back is just his back doesn't move at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's getting there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were some good matches on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad the champa.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, got the, uh, win over Jericho, uh, where, what do you say on a beach break overall outside of the main event title picture?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the, the one thing that kind of urged me was the booking of to cash in Fletcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a good match, don't get me wrong, but it's like, okay, I understand the reason you have to cash those losing so you can go do the G1.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is the build up to this match was his friend turned on hands and his best friend turned on him and beat the snott out of him and this is the one where you decided to a clean finish over to Keshta as a way to really give him that boost going into the G1 because nobody pays attention to both companies from AEW and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I was like going, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you on the jet dance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But also, they did a thing where Audradi comes out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if he beats Jake Doyle, he gets a match with Mark Davis for his time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who I learned yesterday is the National Champion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, half an hour later, Mike Bailey comes out and just challenges Mark Davis
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, I'm theory, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mike Bailey, you're not really a threat to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So sure, I have to defend this title anyway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might just won't do it against your scrawny ass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe on Draw Day, who, by the way, I don't know if you've ever seen that scene from friends where Joey is wearing everything, Chandler owns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, well, you're wearing my underwear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to wear everything you own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what on Draw Day looked like last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was that a 19-piece suit?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Jesus, he looked like he was about to go sledding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was wearing so many layers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in 105 degree times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you weren't aware, the show took place in St. Pete Clearwater, which is a great area of Florida.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that show was a commercial for St. Pete Clearwater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are some backroom deals going on on some of these shows in some of these locations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You had Twitch just randomly the logo for Twitch on the back screen during some of these matches and like they wouldn't say anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just the logo for Twitch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The logo for St. Pete Clearwater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He used Tony's just trying to get some of those sponsored dollars that he knows are there now because of WWE, but guess what Tony you are not Nick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to come that easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did raw feel kind of like I know why they did all these things on raw, but it felt like hey we're gonna do a lot of weird stuff on this show that kind of
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[SPEAKER_03]: shotgun books a little bit there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, you could say that maybe Triple H kind of booked himself into a corner is like, well, I want these main events for Summer Slam and we have to sell out these nights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a two-night Summer Slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be hot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many apples.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's outdoors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We want this to be a big show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two hours are going to be on ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need big matches for this and you know what, I can't be having Sami Zayn as my champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was cool for Sami Zayn to have that moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wasn't even talking about that one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a few.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think it was a cool moment for CM Punk to come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally before CM Punk took his vacation that he said he wasn't taking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His words were you never know when the title opportunity is going to present itself going to come out of thin air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Drop out of the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Drop out of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk dropped out of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This title opportunity dropped out of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wins it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a hell of a match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk is your champion now to go on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will be a little interesting on TV how they get Cody Rhodes back in that without Sammy Zane in that because I don't think they're going to do a multi-man match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're going to do a four way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're getting punk and Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here on TV at some point, you're going to get Sammy and Cody, Sammy is just not going to get his title rematch, but I'm interested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was watching the entire week of raw, I mean, tag team titles have certainly been flomixed about and I can see some of that just being a lead-in to creating more heat for the vision with Maxine, but here we were a couple of weeks ago on this program, this fine program with two M's and the knee at the end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here we are, they're basically rebooting, not even rebooting, but they are adding members to a group that is still going to be around at least until Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like they literally just changed their mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if they were going by the way, guys, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bron breakers back in the title picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had to win the tag team titles, then do the singles match with Seth, lose the tag team titles, and then win them back to fully cement that he's no longer involved with Seth Rollins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is the tag team title scene right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: before we go to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to just circle back real quick all of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope they put that Sami Zane Promo that he recorded after losing on TV because it was fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know he was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy can talk who would have thought.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can LA night, LA night, say I'd like to that promo a lot, but at the same time you're kind of like, okay, we're going to heat him back up again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, hopefully if they do do it because you're going to have Seth Rollins probably lose to Roman Reigns, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would imagine Seth versus L.A. is probably what's coming next, except we also have Jimmy U.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in some U.S.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Hendry just decides whether he wants to show up or not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he goes away for a bit, shows up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he still going to be involved in the vision?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or they do in the tag team title scene?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of summer refreshing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but it's not coming after a paper view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming before a paper view and not necessarily after a draft or any type of momentous occasion where it's like, okay, we've got to change the pulse here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, what do we want to do for the next two months?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, that's not where we're headed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just change it all here on Raw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Henry involvement in getting the tag team towers was a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they just crush him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he didn't
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, that's been interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's an interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's an interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's a good choice, but it's an interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, but the Don Calus family, back to AWS, the Don Calus family three years later after having this group begin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're the belt collectors, all of a sudden National Champion International title again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just the group you come to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to title match and we'll just we'll just pick and choose who you defend against.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you beat Jake Doyle who will lose every single time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also the national champion when that when that started and then Ricochet won wasn't Tony coming out with this national champion his his idea He presented was this belt was gonna be the world traveling belt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was gonna be the U.S. traveling belt It was gonna go on to the Indies and other programs and do all these things and one ricochet didn't do that all that much and Mark gave us your so I No, and this was yeah, this was the
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[SPEAKER_03]: The evolution of the all Atlantic or whatever they call that when pack had it and was doing that in like England Yeah, because because the all Atlantic belt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah in theory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they were supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They all Atlantic became the international Telling keep saying I'm gonna send people to these Indies and then they never go to these Indies
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[SPEAKER_02]: and mjf i mean mjf is credit had still been doing indies up to this year and is decided he's focusing on a w now which is great because he doesn't have a title to defend anymore uh yeah though the national trim but the national title is like one too many i know this comes up every so often about too many belts and a w
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, WWE has a lot of belts, but they're relatively segregated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have most of which, you have your U.S. title on one brand, you have the Intercontinental on the different brands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you're not also having the U.S. title and the Intercontinental on the same show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rarely you will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this week, we had the WWE title defend it on Raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they brought that up with the GMs, like, why are you approaching my main event?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gone one week and say, how do you take my title?
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[SPEAKER_02]: on AEW though, on a collision, on a dynamite, you might have the ROH title defended, and then the international title defended, and then the national title defended, and then the TNT title defended, and then the AEW championship, and you're like, oh well, they're giving us all these title matches, why the fuck aren't you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: just every other wrestler champion then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want every title match to be on a show and every show to have title matches, just make 15 titles because that's where EW is right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have way too many championships and not a lot of real names holding some of those belts either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: right and it's a problem that can be solved because like when I first started wrestling or watching wrestling it was crock it when they had like two tag team titles you had the brass knuckles championship you had the national the US the world the television titles and stuff like that but they were all distinct and they were all individual personalities holding them and they all kind of have their two or three guys that they were feuding with it within
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[SPEAKER_03]: Stratosphere and this is just like it feels like okay, we're gonna have this AEW title match, and that's gonna lead into an ROH pure match that we're gonna have to have we're gonna have Lee Johnson or Lee Moriarty or Lee Lee or whoever's Whatever Lee is holding the belt this week defended I I
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's part the belt has no real meaning because you don't know the exact hierarchy of these titles and the people holding these titles never tell you what the belt means to them or or anything like that they never give it any of their own personality to it's so you don't care about it's just belts on belts and then you have old old Kevin two belts coming out jet two belts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Becky should sue him for gimmick infringement amongst a group that has a bunch of other belts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what does he just challenge one of the challenge mark Davis for his fault?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He might be headed there because Kevin I you know probably what lesson a month after joining up around a month after joining up with the Don Calis family comes out and he's just going to shit talking his teammates.
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[SPEAKER_03]: out of all the guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had flexures of the man on that crew.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't said it yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I get that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he has never said anything other than I want to built and I want a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I find this no bias in so many ways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's a great athlete, but I think he needs to work on his promos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's say something different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, hey, I want a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What else?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What does it mean to you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What does it do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just I want a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want two belts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the funniest moments, one of the funniest moments for me, W Dynamite this week, was Will Osprey coming out to somewhat interfere with the Kenny Omega match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He steals the Diamond Ring, Kenny Omega is like, do I hit MJ off with this bell, this chair, this whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Will Osprey interferes gets pushed down, Kenny Omega and MJ, I have to go back to wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the TV camera is just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: right on Will Osprey as he awkwardly doesn't know whether he should leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jog up the ramp, staying his spot, get out of there in some fashion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see him kind of mildly jog to the top of the ramp, watch the match for another three seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, well, I guess I'll just go now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You see a healer, a baby face now because I can't tell because some of these probos are so healish from him and then he comes out of inner fears when he's not supposed to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny, then decides he's going to tempt heal them through the belt away or use the belt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like, what are we doing, I just...
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least with Kenny Omega, like you can be like, okay, his, his better angels are arguing amongst his better demons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sir demons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because this guy, I mean, he put up the last time he could ever get a world title shot, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, and theory, even even the best guy might be tempted to have some underhanded tactics there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega, still good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Osprey right now with this Death Rider storyline, and if you're going in to this big match at Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega vs. Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't really need the Death Rider storyline to be a part of this and now they're stuck in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and Osprey's whole thing is you gave up on yourself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that ever happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just being a jerk, yet he has the death writer's patch, but he refuses to do the film school entrance where he like has his own red light in the back and you know what that might be them, but that might be the blowoff in Quebec now that I'm thinking about it is Moxley Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess so, but it seems like they just, I mean, is the official member.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and yes, two weeks and two weeks as you're trying, then what's the point of doing Kenny Omega early is the champion because in theory you want to extra weeks of Kenny Omega versus Willosbury, but no, by the way, by the way, we need to get this John Moxley stuff first and then what the death riders is just going to sit out all in and not fuck with Willosbury like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe D, maybe D, I almost call them D-nambros.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Moxley and Will Osprey are doing this thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Will Osprey potentially wins the championship and Mox is like, all right, you know, we've accepted you in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got into this point, it's time to pay the Piper, it's time to give me the title shot, and maybe the fuckery happens there potentially.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know what, instead of doing a 20 minute banger with the workhorse men, let's have some angle development.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it'll be Samoa Joe returning winning the title and now it's because I saw a tweet and it was probably not by someone with a lot of followers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine because it was one of the stupidest things I saw, but it showed up on my timeline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I can't believe A-A-W is copying the Sami Zane story with MGF as Sami Zane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had such a short run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, bitch, did you just not pay attention to the Darby Allen win?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Darby Allen and Sami Zane are the same story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do I think either one's copying either one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just, they happen to happen at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby Allen, this AEW LIFE finally gets the title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never thought he would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sammy Zane, WWE LIFE finally gets the title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never thought he would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a coincidence they're happening at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what the hell is that kind of comparison?
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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF is AEW, Sammy Zane.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... it's it's the convenience of having two world titles switching hands within seventy two hours i think that's just it and they think oh they called this you know right after they saw punk they panicked and they decided to crown it no that didn't happen by the way i saw a tweet that i thought was kind of smart let me let me put this which which tweet of mine was it
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was actually a clip of one Eric Bischof who says that factions today are terrible with the exception of the bloodline
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, and I agreed because of course, none of these factions can execute a plan and sustain any kind of like this dog call us family should have run rough shot over AEW to the point where everybody's looking around going what the hell do we do about the don call us family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They literally have a bunch of geeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, they have an exclusivity on buff, short hair, brown hair guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They should be running rough shot with Jake Doyle with all the people, Mark Davis, who else have to be, they don't all have to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: War, war, war, war, war, war, still kind of a war.
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[SPEAKER_02]: War, war, war, war, war, war, war, war, because one is, yeah, Brian Cage, that was the one I was missing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all the same rent, if you, if you
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you told me that those four guys of going forward, those four guys were just going to be playing the part of one character, I'd be like, that's great casting, they're the same guy, but just Mark Davis is the national champion appearing and performing as Mark Davis tonight will be wardlobe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is not true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not untrue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Saturday night's main event is coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only nine days away from when we're recording this on Thursday night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Madison Square Garden will be broadcast on peacock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That seems weird to still keep saying that there's going to be a WWE show on peacock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Housing is the main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Housing versus JD McNutta is currently the main event for the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Page and Brebellog versus Fatal Influence for the Women's Tag Team Championships.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to imagine they had something like a United States title match or an intercontinental championship match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe CM Punk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... will defend the championship against semi-zane on the show and we get a rematch of that's before cody roads gets his match uh... something bigger has got to be added right because right now all the promotion and everything is tied to day and housing who is not going to be working a fifteen minute main event no uh... and i would guess will maybe a jail in brunson appearance is is oh
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting, we're getting a lot of shit in this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting Jalen Brunson appearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We might even get Tyler Haliburt in appearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't be involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why he would be appearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's always seemingly there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we could get Tyler Haliburt and coming up like, okay, you had your run because the Pacers weren't ready this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we do something there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, Enzo and Big Caster show an up here, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: See, I haven't decided yet whether or not Dan Housing's big friend is going to be a basketball player, it's going to be Baron Corbin, or it's going to be big bill.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what, I tell you what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baron Corbin, for all a shit like you're letting go of Shamus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shamus is contract is coming to end to an end and he's going to be departing WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're letting go of all these guys released in the last round of layoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them who were even on TV at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're doing all this just to bring back big cast and Baron Corbin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baron Corbin is last three years on TV was great TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who is not ready for that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be a very, especially if he's doing full faceplate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if Baronhausen, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, this guy would be great for this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They got the same chest tattoos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's probably why they resigned him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming back to be a part of Danhausen man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Danhausen is creating jobs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, another match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so rude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's all rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She could be she seems like the Saturn and Knights main event type.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tiffy and and whatever happens with that midcard title over there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tiffy seems like the Saturn and Knights main event type.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but there has to be like a mean event or on this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just do this and not have punk or Cody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you can't or what are you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cody Sammy here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remind you the last one was made of encent by Penta.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that was seen as important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it though?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To Fort Wayne it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, they were a loud crowd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you go into Madison Square Garden and your main event is the Intercontinental title, that's what it's gonna be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be Chavon Evans, winning the Intercontinental title in Memphis, G.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and some of your grave.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Jeff Hawkins, he is Robert McCarran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Rob, I have been watching me some World Cup, and I enjoy the World Cup, but I'm going to tell you something, Rob, I am not going to take any crap about the sanctity of soccer, about this whole redguard thing, when soccer has long been known to be the most corrupt sport in the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hearing, I'm hearing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: people from countries that have governments at last five minutes, telling us that the Americans have ruined the great pure game of soccer because someone complained about a red card, which was done three other times during this World Cup, but apparently we're bad about, but you know what, although why we lost four to one,
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[SPEAKER_03]: There you go, guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it wasn't it wasn't the red card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the rescinding the suspect of the red card, which has not happened this world cup.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was quite a quite a crazy move, but in the end of the day, it didn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, postponed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't rescinded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was
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[SPEAKER_02]: for it was it was suspended yes it was spending so he's basically on a year probation you better be a good boy although at the same time in the next year the U.S. men's national team will not have anything of no no anything important at this point I don't think we can win a gold cup against Mexico or Canada
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[SPEAKER_02]: like that that performance that night was so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the sanctity of of of of soccer of soccer, it'd be like balligans red car being rescinded and allowing him to play as if is if you went on vacation for two months and when you came back you just opened a door and boom you were the world champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would never happen in another real event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff, we have new world champions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just two, three, new world champions over the last week and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk is the new W-W-E. Oh, no, sorry, the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is he?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is the W-W-E?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the W-W-E champion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is the WWE Champion, the World Heavyweight Champion, as Roman Reigns, in AEW, this Wednesday we had, what was widely suspected, Kenny Omega winning the AEW World title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if you've been paying attention, but Nicholas J. Nemeth is the TNA World Champion right now and there's rumors that Mike Santana lost the belt because he's headed
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[SPEAKER_02]: to NXT.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, gosh, every major company has a new world champion, which new world champion Jeff Hawkins is the most notable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Punk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just by nature of it because I think Kenny's only got to hold that belt for about a month until all in and then Will's taking it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so this is this is going to be the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those years where AEW world titles probably going to switch another time after that although Will Osprey could have could be one of those guys who has it for like a year year and a half, maybe till next all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... but at the same time that the belt's been switching quite a bit this calendar year so i'm just baffled that they didn't do this on the paper view in Canada this is the perfect place to do it and also let me ask you this if you're mjf
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know a lot of these things don't really matter, but they kind of matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've now lost the title twice on free television.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you ever want to say, hey, can I lose the title on a paper view?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that it's actually, you know, memorable and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, true, I mean, more people, there's the argument that more people see it when it's on for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so more people are seeing MJF lose this world title, so many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's some type of scheduling conflict.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's possible, MJF's not going to be on the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's possible, Kenny Omega can't be on the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, and correct me if I'm wrong, it's in Montreal, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a hot crowd, but like Montreal is barely Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't want to be Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to be Mon, they want to be Quebec.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Kenny Omega is not from there although maybe is, but I don't think he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a different type of world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where where's Kenny Omega from?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm hard of the ladies from Winnipeg, but don't quote me on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very looking at that too because I believe, yeah, it's from Winnipeg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's from Winnipeg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the whole other side of the nation and be like oh my god uh... Randy orton is defending his belt in new york city which is great because he's from Missouri like it's not it's not the same thing guys uh... it is weird that they didn't do it on the paper view seemingly you didn't have to rush it uh... if only for the fact that they wanted what a month and a half to sell tickets
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they just wanted those two extra weeks of knowing that it's Kenny Omega and Will Osprey to sell tickets for Wembley, that's maybe the main reason I can think of other then, hey, there's someone who may not be available for that night, but if you're that kind of fan, you already knew that Kenny and Will was going to be the match probably at all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you already have probably bought your tickets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Possibly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think everyone who's that kind of fan already has their ticket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that two extra weeks of man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really I really can't miss this of people thinking that oh, you know, I maybe it's going to be mgf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We think it's going to be omega, but they don't have them with a beddle don't pelt on him mgf just one hit from Darby Allen like what does that say about Darby Allen that he's three champions ago now or two champions ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's, there's reasons in Tony Khan's head that he did it for this night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe just wanted to pop some type of number because he's, yes, he's begging, he's begging for some other company.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We might see the year of every big match except for a few are going to be on television because this guy's going to be looking for a new TV deal next time around and he's going to lose his current home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's an interesting night to do it because it's the one night, you know, the respite of the world cup and nothing's there, but it's just, it's just so, yeah, I understand it and it feels very Monday night wars-ish in that paper views are now building to the free television.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for the most of the break, beach break, as much as I am alike, I will never watch collision because your main event is always on draw day versus no name who's not going to be on TV for another three weeks afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: John Moxley versus who even care like Jake Doyle is your main of like these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Collision doesn't have the matches that are like, oh, this could be on a paper viewer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This could be on the dynamite risk is a really big match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynamite lately has not been having those either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been having a lot of squashes that somehow still go 15 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, this this night, I mean beach break line up the line up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's being read out and you're watching match after match and I'm like, holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The paper view is today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This thing that they're going to have in Montreal is going to be a dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The paper view was last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we head to Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Montreal paper views probably gonna be all edge and or coping cage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could very well see MJF versus Omega being rematched on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could also see MJF versus Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF, complaining about his title shot, Osprey being the, you know, the big man he is, I'll put up my title shot to get you out of the picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could see some of these main events coming into place in the next two and a half weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... we still have a loads of time there have been it's going to be speed ball versus the jet for a while could be uh... we'll get to the jet later because Jesus Christ why put him in the group to just two weeks later already caused strife infriction yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: There will never not be friction in the Don Calis family, but we'll get to that in a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There have been all outs that were announced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking that year where there was all out to or all in Wembley and then all out the very next week in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got, we got an all out announcement for Chicago, but it's going to be happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe in September and late in September.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to have some time in between.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there have been weeks where literally they've built an entirely new card in one week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got two and a half weeks now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a whole lot of stuff that could be happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Notability wise, I agree that CM Punk being in the title picture, and also having a big match most likely at SummerSlam is the most notable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Kenny Omega certainly winning, even though a lot of people probably suspected it to happen, definitely throws a wrench in the next...
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[SPEAKER_02]: month and a half of VW TV because now you know you're getting aspirin omega, what's going what's omega going to do after that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, it was a hell of a match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF omega.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that the actual wrestling, including Jericho, although he's starting to get in that Matt Hardy territory where he can barely move and his back is just his back doesn't move at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's getting there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were some good matches on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad the champa.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, got the, uh, win over Jericho, uh, where, what do you say on a beach break overall outside of the main event title picture?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the, the one thing that kind of urged me was the booking of to cash in Fletcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a good match, don't get me wrong, but it's like, okay, I understand the reason you have to cash those losing so you can go do the G1.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is the build up to this match was his friend turned on hands and his best friend turned on him and beat the snott out of him and this is the one where you decided to a clean finish over to Keshta as a way to really give him that boost going into the G1 because nobody pays attention to both companies from AEW and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I was like going, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you on the jet dance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But also, they did a thing where Audradi comes out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if he beats Jake Doyle, he gets a match with Mark Davis for his time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who I learned yesterday is the National Champion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, half an hour later, Mike Bailey comes out and just challenges Mark Davis
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, I'm theory, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mike Bailey, you're not really a threat to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So sure, I have to defend this title anyway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might just won't do it against your scrawny ass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe on Draw Day, who, by the way, I don't know if you've ever seen that scene from friends where Joey is wearing everything, Chandler owns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, well, you're wearing my underwear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to wear everything you own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what on Draw Day looked like last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was that a 19-piece suit?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Jesus, he looked like he was about to go sledding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was wearing so many layers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in 105 degree times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you weren't aware, the show took place in St. Pete Clearwater, which is a great area of Florida.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that show was a commercial for St. Pete Clearwater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are some backroom deals going on on some of these shows in some of these locations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You had Twitch just randomly the logo for Twitch on the back screen during some of these matches and like they wouldn't say anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just the logo for Twitch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The logo for St. Pete Clearwater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He used Tony's just trying to get some of those sponsored dollars that he knows are there now because of WWE, but guess what Tony you are not Nick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to come that easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did raw feel kind of like I know why they did all these things on raw, but it felt like hey we're gonna do a lot of weird stuff on this show that kind of
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[SPEAKER_03]: shotgun books a little bit there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, you could say that maybe Triple H kind of booked himself into a corner is like, well, I want these main events for Summer Slam and we have to sell out these nights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a two-night Summer Slam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be hot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many apples.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's outdoors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We want this to be a big show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two hours are going to be on ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need big matches for this and you know what, I can't be having Sami Zayn as my champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was cool for Sami Zayn to have that moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wasn't even talking about that one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a few.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think it was a cool moment for CM Punk to come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally before CM Punk took his vacation that he said he wasn't taking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His words were you never know when the title opportunity is going to present itself going to come out of thin air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Drop out of the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Drop out of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk dropped out of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This title opportunity dropped out of the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wins it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a hell of a match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk is your champion now to go on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will be a little interesting on TV how they get Cody Rhodes back in that without Sammy Zane in that because I don't think they're going to do a multi-man match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're going to do a four way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're getting punk and Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here on TV at some point, you're going to get Sammy and Cody, Sammy is just not going to get his title rematch, but I'm interested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was watching the entire week of raw, I mean, tag team titles have certainly been flomixed about and I can see some of that just being a lead-in to creating more heat for the vision with Maxine, but here we were a couple of weeks ago on this program, this fine program with two M's and the knee at the end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here we are, they're basically rebooting, not even rebooting, but they are adding members to a group that is still going to be around at least until Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like they literally just changed their mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if they were going by the way, guys, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bron breakers back in the title picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had to win the tag team titles, then do the singles match with Seth, lose the tag team titles, and then win them back to fully cement that he's no longer involved with Seth Rollins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is the tag team title scene right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: before we go to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to just circle back real quick all of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope they put that Sami Zane Promo that he recorded after losing on TV because it was fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know he was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy can talk who would have thought.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can LA night, LA night, say I'd like to that promo a lot, but at the same time you're kind of like, okay, we're going to heat him back up again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, hopefully if they do do it because you're going to have Seth Rollins probably lose to Roman Reigns, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would imagine Seth versus L.A. is probably what's coming next, except we also have Jimmy U.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in some U.S.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Hendry just decides whether he wants to show up or not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he goes away for a bit, shows up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he still going to be involved in the vision?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or they do in the tag team title scene?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of summer refreshing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but it's not coming after a paper view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming before a paper view and not necessarily after a draft or any type of momentous occasion where it's like, okay, we've got to change the pulse here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, what do we want to do for the next two months?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, that's not where we're headed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just change it all here on Raw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Henry involvement in getting the tag team towers was a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they just crush him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he didn't
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, that's been interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's an interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's an interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's a good choice, but it's an interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, but the Don Calus family, back to AWS, the Don Calus family three years later after having this group begin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're the belt collectors, all of a sudden National Champion International title again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just the group you come to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to title match and we'll just we'll just pick and choose who you defend against.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you beat Jake Doyle who will lose every single time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also the national champion when that when that started and then Ricochet won wasn't Tony coming out with this national champion his his idea He presented was this belt was gonna be the world traveling belt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was gonna be the U.S. traveling belt It was gonna go on to the Indies and other programs and do all these things and one ricochet didn't do that all that much and Mark gave us your so I No, and this was yeah, this was the
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[SPEAKER_03]: The evolution of the all Atlantic or whatever they call that when pack had it and was doing that in like England Yeah, because because the all Atlantic belt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah in theory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they were supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They all Atlantic became the international Telling keep saying I'm gonna send people to these Indies and then they never go to these Indies
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[SPEAKER_02]: and mjf i mean mjf is credit had still been doing indies up to this year and is decided he's focusing on a w now which is great because he doesn't have a title to defend anymore uh yeah though the national trim but the national title is like one too many i know this comes up every so often about too many belts and a w
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, WWE has a lot of belts, but they're relatively segregated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have most of which, you have your U.S. title on one brand, you have the Intercontinental on the different brands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you're not also having the U.S. title and the Intercontinental on the same show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rarely you will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this week, we had the WWE title defend it on Raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they brought that up with the GMs, like, why are you approaching my main event?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gone one week and say, how do you take my title?
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[SPEAKER_02]: on AEW though, on a collision, on a dynamite, you might have the ROH title defended, and then the international title defended, and then the national title defended, and then the TNT title defended, and then the AEW championship, and you're like, oh well, they're giving us all these title matches, why the fuck aren't you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: just every other wrestler champion then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want every title match to be on a show and every show to have title matches, just make 15 titles because that's where EW is right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have way too many championships and not a lot of real names holding some of those belts either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: right and it's a problem that can be solved because like when I first started wrestling or watching wrestling it was crock it when they had like two tag team titles you had the brass knuckles championship you had the national the US the world the television titles and stuff like that but they were all distinct and they were all individual personalities holding them and they all kind of have their two or three guys that they were feuding with it within
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[SPEAKER_03]: Stratosphere and this is just like it feels like okay, we're gonna have this AEW title match, and that's gonna lead into an ROH pure match that we're gonna have to have we're gonna have Lee Johnson or Lee Moriarty or Lee Lee or whoever's Whatever Lee is holding the belt this week defended I I
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's part the belt has no real meaning because you don't know the exact hierarchy of these titles and the people holding these titles never tell you what the belt means to them or or anything like that they never give it any of their own personality to it's so you don't care about it's just belts on belts and then you have old old Kevin two belts coming out jet two belts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Becky should sue him for gimmick infringement amongst a group that has a bunch of other belts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what does he just challenge one of the challenge mark Davis for his fault?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He might be headed there because Kevin I you know probably what lesson a month after joining up around a month after joining up with the Don Calis family comes out and he's just going to shit talking his teammates.
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[SPEAKER_03]: out of all the guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had flexures of the man on that crew.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't said it yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I get that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he has never said anything other than I want to built and I want a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I find this no bias in so many ways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's a great athlete, but I think he needs to work on his promos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's say something different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, hey, I want a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What else?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What does it mean to you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What does it do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just I want a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want two belts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the funniest moments, one of the funniest moments for me, W Dynamite this week, was Will Osprey coming out to somewhat interfere with the Kenny Omega match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He steals the Diamond Ring, Kenny Omega is like, do I hit MJ off with this bell, this chair, this whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Will Osprey interferes gets pushed down, Kenny Omega and MJ, I have to go back to wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the TV camera is just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: right on Will Osprey as he awkwardly doesn't know whether he should leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jog up the ramp, staying his spot, get out of there in some fashion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see him kind of mildly jog to the top of the ramp, watch the match for another three seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, well, I guess I'll just go now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You see a healer, a baby face now because I can't tell because some of these probos are so healish from him and then he comes out of inner fears when he's not supposed to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny, then decides he's going to tempt heal them through the belt away or use the belt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like, what are we doing, I just...
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least with Kenny Omega, like you can be like, okay, his, his better angels are arguing amongst his better demons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sir demons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because this guy, I mean, he put up the last time he could ever get a world title shot, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, and theory, even even the best guy might be tempted to have some underhanded tactics there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega, still good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Osprey right now with this Death Rider storyline, and if you're going in to this big match at Wembley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega vs. Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't really need the Death Rider storyline to be a part of this and now they're stuck in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and Osprey's whole thing is you gave up on yourself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that ever happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just being a jerk, yet he has the death writer's patch, but he refuses to do the film school entrance where he like has his own red light in the back and you know what that might be them, but that might be the blowoff in Quebec now that I'm thinking about it is Moxley Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess so, but it seems like they just, I mean, is the official member.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and yes, two weeks and two weeks as you're trying, then what's the point of doing Kenny Omega early is the champion because in theory you want to extra weeks of Kenny Omega versus Willosbury, but no, by the way, by the way, we need to get this John Moxley stuff first and then what the death riders is just going to sit out all in and not fuck with Willosbury like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe D, maybe D, I almost call them D-nambros.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Moxley and Will Osprey are doing this thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Will Osprey potentially wins the championship and Mox is like, all right, you know, we've accepted you in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got into this point, it's time to pay the Piper, it's time to give me the title shot, and maybe the fuckery happens there potentially.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know what, instead of doing a 20 minute banger with the workhorse men, let's have some angle development.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it'll be Samoa Joe returning winning the title and now it's because I saw a tweet and it was probably not by someone with a lot of followers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine because it was one of the stupidest things I saw, but it showed up on my timeline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I can't believe A-A-W is copying the Sami Zane story with MGF as Sami Zane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had such a short run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, bitch, did you just not pay attention to the Darby Allen win?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Darby Allen and Sami Zane are the same story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do I think either one's copying either one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just, they happen to happen at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby Allen, this AEW LIFE finally gets the title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never thought he would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sammy Zane, WWE LIFE finally gets the title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never thought he would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a coincidence they're happening at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what the hell is that kind of comparison?
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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF is AEW, Sammy Zane.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... it's it's the convenience of having two world titles switching hands within seventy two hours i think that's just it and they think oh they called this you know right after they saw punk they panicked and they decided to crown it no that didn't happen by the way i saw a tweet that i thought was kind of smart let me let me put this which which tweet of mine was it
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was actually a clip of one Eric Bischof who says that factions today are terrible with the exception of the bloodline
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, and I agreed because of course, none of these factions can execute a plan and sustain any kind of like this dog call us family should have run rough shot over AEW to the point where everybody's looking around going what the hell do we do about the don call us family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They literally have a bunch of geeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, they have an exclusivity on buff, short hair, brown hair guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They should be running rough shot with Jake Doyle with all the people, Mark Davis, who else have to be, they don't all have to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: War, war, war, war, war, war, still kind of a war.
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[SPEAKER_02]: War, war, war, war, war, war, war, war, because one is, yeah, Brian Cage, that was the one I was missing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all the same rent, if you, if you
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you told me that those four guys of going forward, those four guys were just going to be playing the part of one character, I'd be like, that's great casting, they're the same guy, but just Mark Davis is the national champion appearing and performing as Mark Davis tonight will be wardlobe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is not true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not untrue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Saturday night's main event is coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only nine days away from when we're recording this on Thursday night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Madison Square Garden will be broadcast on peacock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That seems weird to still keep saying that there's going to be a WWE show on peacock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Housing is the main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Housing versus JD McNutta is currently the main event for the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Page and Brebellog versus Fatal Influence for the Women's Tag Team Championships.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to imagine they had something like a United States title match or an intercontinental championship match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe CM Punk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... will defend the championship against semi-zane on the show and we get a rematch of that's before cody roads gets his match uh... something bigger has got to be added right because right now all the promotion and everything is tied to day and housing who is not going to be working a fifteen minute main event no uh... and i would guess will maybe a jail in brunson appearance is is oh
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting, we're getting a lot of shit in this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting Jalen Brunson appearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We might even get Tyler Haliburt in appearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't be involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why he would be appearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's always seemingly there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we could get Tyler Haliburt and coming up like, okay, you had your run because the Pacers weren't ready this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we do something there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, Enzo and Big Caster show an up here, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: See, I haven't decided yet whether or not Dan Housing's big friend is going to be a basketball player, it's going to be Baron Corbin, or it's going to be big bill.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what, I tell you what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baron Corbin, for all a shit like you're letting go of Shamus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shamus is contract is coming to end to an end and he's going to be departing WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're letting go of all these guys released in the last round of layoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them who were even on TV at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're doing all this just to bring back big cast and Baron Corbin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baron Corbin is last three years on TV was great TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who is not ready for that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be a very, especially if he's doing full faceplate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if Baronhausen, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, this guy would be great for this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They got the same chest tattoos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's probably why they resigned him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming back to be a part of Danhausen man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Danhausen is creating jobs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, another match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so rude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's all rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She could be she seems like the Saturn and Knights main event type.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tiffy and and whatever happens with that midcard title over there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tiffy seems like the Saturn and Knights main event type.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but there has to be like a mean event or on this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just do this and not have punk or Cody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you can't or what are you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cody Sammy here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remind you the last one was made of encent by Penta.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that was seen as important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it though?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To Fort Wayne it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, they were a loud crowd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you go into Madison Square Garden and your main event is the Intercontinental title, that's what it's gonna be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be Chavon Evans, winning the Intercontinental title in Memphis, G.
