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Oh, you can hear me now? I post long-ass videos.
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Yeah, I saw. I was looking at your stuff.
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Yeah, so it's damn near like a podcast. Like, I
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posted a three-hour and 30-minute video.
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Yeah.
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And it got a million views. So you already know.
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How many ads you put in your podcast?
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Well, you get, like, the ads from, like, obviously YouTube
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during the time. Obviously, you can put more when it's longer.
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But then you get, like, brand deals. You can put
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a couple throughout.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like a couple, like. you know, substantial deals for sure.
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Okay, okay.
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It's dope. It's cool.
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Next level. Next level. So what brand new you got
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for this one?
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I think there's two in this one. Okay, that's dope. Yeah.
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It's funny. I mean, it's not foreign to you, the money.
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You've been doing YouTube for a minute.
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Yeah, it's been like, been about seven years now.
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Yeah.
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Fuck, it's crazy because you're what, 25?
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Mm-hmm.
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So you guys started young.
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Yeah, I started when I was like 18, 19. Around
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that age. I really not. Actually, I started in like 10th,
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11th grade.
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Yeah.
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I used to buy views. What? Yeah.
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You used to buy views?
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When I first started.
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What do you mean buy views?
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I used to go on like Google ads and like
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buy views and like pay for advertisements for my little skits.
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Yeah. I know people who do that still.
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Yeah.
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Like a lot of people still do that. It's actually
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like pretty popular. Yeah. What pushed you into YouTube? Like why?
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You were 18, 19. You're like, I'm just going to
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do this.
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Yeah. I mean, it's really just, I don't know. I
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just like creating videos, entertaining. I used to make skits
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for my homies, my friends.
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Yeah.
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And then they was like, oh, this is funny. And
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I just kept doing it. But then it got to
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a point where I figured out that you can make
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money from it.
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Yeah.
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So then that's when I really got into it. The
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first YouTuber that I really started watching and made me
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really want to start doing YouTube was Fouseytube.
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Wow that's actually really funny because he was the first
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youtuber that i got into youtube with like i've been
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doing instagram because instagram was like i started way before
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youtube and i i got to like 600 000 i
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think on instagram this is like way back in like
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must have been 2013 2014 and he was one of
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the biggest youtubers at the time and i met him
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at like a celebrity game like a football game and
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i was like oh i want to because he was
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like kind of overweight And I was like, I want
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to get into YouTube and train you and then help
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me start my YouTube career. So it's kind of interesting
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how you said that's the guy you saw.
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Yeah. I used to watch FouseyTube every day.
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Every single day I watched every vlog.
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What about... This is actually interesting. What about certain people
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did you enjoy? And do you find anyone that you
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enjoy now on YouTube? Or do you just make so
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much content you can't consume it?
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Yeah.
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I can't really get into nobody now because it's like...
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I do it so much now, it's like I can't
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really lock in with a creator. I would say the
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only creator that I really watch is Kai.
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Kai Sinat.
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That's the one I really watch now. He's like my
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homie at the same time. At the same time, he's
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very entertaining. So I'm more in the stream world when
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I consume content versus YouTube. I don't know. I like
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the vulnerability. That's what I really like.
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On YouTube.
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Yeah, like when people just open with it. That's why
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I like FouseyTube so much because nigga was crying and
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shit on there. I was like, this shit real, this crazy.
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This dog died and shit. You know what I'm saying?
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I was feeling the emotion through the screen. So I'm like, man,
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it's like a damn TV show, like a soap opera.
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So I kind of, in my content, I try to
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be like vulnerable to an extent. But I ain't finna
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cry on that bitch. If I cry on there, you know,
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it's fake, but it's like, it's skit type shit.
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Yeah.
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I cry. I'm a big pussy, dude. I get talking
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to some shit. It'll make me cry. But I'm curious though.
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So you, you were, you were like in YouTube and
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then you're like, I'm going to start doing music or
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had you always wanted to do music?
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I always been around music, but as growing up, I
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used to watch conspiracy theories and I used to be
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really scared of the Illuminati and all this other bullshit.
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Cause I used to watch these YouTube videos like every
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day and I'd be like, what the fuck? I don't
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want to be a rapper.
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Not because of the idea of the Illuminati.
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Like, yeah.
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Like they just made it scary for it. Make it
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scary for like an artist to really, and not everybody
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be thinking like, Oh, you sold your soul. All the
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other shit.
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Yeah.
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But in reality, that shit ain't even real for real.
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So it's like, I always been around and my dad
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was an engineer in my hometown of Pontiac, Michigan. Um,
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I used to make songs. I got songs when I
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was like five.
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Do people joke and say you're not really from there?
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What, from Pontiac?
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Yeah, because I feel like I've seen a few things
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where people are like, he's not really from there.
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No, no. I think Pontiac is such an unknown city,
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and I'm kind of like the one that really put
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it on, because it's like a small city. Nobody says
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I'm from Pontiac. Everybody says I'm from Detroit, but I
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say I'm from Pontiac. You know what I mean? I
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don't like to claim another city that I'm not from.
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So I kind of like put it on the map
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in a way. But nah, man, my dad was an
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engineer back in Pontiac. I got songs with my brothers
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when I was like five as a kid. I just
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always been around it. I just never really took it
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serious for that one weird reason.
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So funny.
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So I was like, but you know, I'm a kid,
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so I'm believing this shit as I'm doing it or whatever.
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And then as I got into YouTube and I got
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bigger and bigger, I started making a lot of money.
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And then I got into that diss track era.
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Yeah, I remember that.
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Rice gum era and all that shit. I remember that.
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So then I was like, okay, this shit low-key moving.
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And I knew I can rap. Like, I always knew
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I could do music. It's just something that I never really,
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just like, you know, I'm going to really do this shit.
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How do you find that out? You're just like one
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day in your bathroom fucking singing to yourself?
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I used to battle rap in high school, middle school,
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like at lunch and shit. Like, I used to really
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be rapping. So it'd be like, I always knew I
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had the skill to rhyme. Cause it is a skill.
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A lot of people can't rap, you know? So I
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always knew I had that skill. So I'm like, damn,
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you know, I want to do this shit. But at
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the same time, like, you know, I don't know. I'm
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making so much money on YouTube. I'm just focused on this.
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Then the diss track era really kind of segway me
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into this career in a way, because I was getting
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so many views and so much love and people was
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liking it.
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To stay in YouTube.
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Yeah, like to keep doing the diss track shit. Yeah.
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So I was like, shit, let me go ahead and
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try to make an original song, my own joint. It
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really take music serious. So then I made another channel,
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which is my music channel now. And I was like,
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I'm going to separate it. And then I just started dropping.
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This is what I find so interesting about you versus
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a lot of other creators who like try to make music.
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Like you actually really do it. Like you really did it.
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And you've separated it where like, it doesn't feel like
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you're a corny YouTuber trying to rap. And I'm not
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trying to disrespect anyone, but that's something that I noticed
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about you looking at your stuff. You've separated enough that
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it doesn't feel that way. Where most people, they're YouTubers
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and they start rapping, it's like you're just a YouTuber
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that's trying to rap. First, a YouTuber became a rapper,
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and it's somewhat separate.
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How'd you do it? The music industry is really perception.
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This shit is just all high looks, for real. When
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I put myself around certain people, Or you see me
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on a red carpet or you see me around this
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artist and this rapper and doing a feature with this dude.
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It just make the shit more real for people. Even
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though it's already real to me, it make it more
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real to the audience. You know what I'm saying? I
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feel like other people that did music and did YouTube
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at the same time like I'm doing, kind of like
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never really took that approach where I'm like, okay, let
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me focus on the image. and the perspective to really
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make motherfuckers believe what's going on. Yeah.
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Well, let's talk about that because I saw an interview
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you did a couple months ago at Breakfast Club and
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you were talking about how being a rapper and being
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a YouTuber, being a YouTuber can kind of affect what,
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I guess, image-wise people perceive a rapper being a rapper
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versus a YouTuber. Why do you think there is that
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line that makes people be like, like I said earlier, oh,
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you're just a YouTuber and not take you serious as
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a rapper?
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Because it's like, It's like your YouTube audience is like
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your family. So it's like, think about it. If you
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got a cousin right now, right, and he start rapping,
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like you're going to support it. But at the same time,
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you're like, I know this dude. I grew up with him.
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What the hell? This is my cousin. You know what
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I mean? So it's like, I feel like that's how
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people look at me. For the people that grew up
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watching me, they like.
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They hold you to that.
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Yeah, they hold me to that. Like, I just seen
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you doing skits and now you. You know what I mean?
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So they try to, they think they know me and
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they think they can like, Be like, oh, nah, he
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ain't really rapping for real. Like, I just like him
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for this. So some people just, there's people to this
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day that watch me every single day that has never
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listened to one of my songs.
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Yeah, well, that's an interesting thing, how people just in general, like,
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want to put you in a box.
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Yeah, they just choose not to listen to it. But
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everybody that choose to listen to my music like it.
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Yeah.
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So the people that don't like it or they say
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my music is trash or whatever, they have never listened
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to a song.
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Yeah, it's always from the outside in.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Let's talk about that. That's funny, that idea of selling
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your soul to the Illuminati because of the music industry
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when you were a kid. And you got older, and
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then you get more into the music industry. Are you
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fully independent?
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Uh-uh.
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So you're signed.
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Yeah, I signed in 2018.
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Do you still feel like it's... Obviously, there's not the
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Illuminati control and everything, but there's more control, right? Because
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they kind of.
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I don't know nothing about the Illuminati, by the way.
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That ain't got nothing.
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Well, I'm not saying that's like I'm not saying that's
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happening I'm just saying like people in charge of these
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businesses the labels they do want and expect certain things it's.
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A business it's you know they try to make money
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they invest in a lot of they invest in millions
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into artists they want to make money times 10 so
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you know it's cool my deal is it's a partnership
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so I own my masters I like a 50-50 deal
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so it's like shit more cool than most artists.
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Well you probably knew that because you came in with
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the business sense from doing youtube and making your own
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money prior to even existing in that space where you
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like you knew your value yeah and i think a
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lot of people they don't they just kind of get
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taken because someone sees like a potential they get signed
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and you know that 360 and they take everything yeah
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and they don't really know what the value really is
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um also something i found out i found out about
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just randomly i don't know who's tough it was it
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was blue face or someone was telling me you have
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an an OnlyFans that is for teaching people how to, like,
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make money on the internet.
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Yeah, I stopped doing it, though.
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You stopped doing that?
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Yeah, I think I'm going to make my own website
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and do it because I feel like just kids in
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general that probably want to learn from me, like, how
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their parents going to look at it and they go
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on their phone and they see OnlyFans. Yeah, I see
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what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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What the hell are your OnlyFans for? Then they got
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to explain, oh, I'm learning from.
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DDG, so. I see. Yeah, you should make a site. That's,
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you know. But was that, like, what kind of content
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were you putting on there?
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I was really teaching people everything I know. So I'd
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be like, okay, this is how you make this content,
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this is how you get the most views, thumbnail, clickbait, titling.
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I was just teaching people what I know on how
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to grow as a YouTuber. I feel like everybody wants
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to learn from me because I started an entertainment company,
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which I kind of stopped now, but I signed a
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bunch of creators and I started off with one female
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and She went from zero, mind you. She never did YouTube,
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never did nothing, Instagram, nothing. Signed her to this entertainment
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company I came with off the dome and was like, okay,
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let's work. She went from zero to 200 subscribers, 200,000
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subscribers in like a month and a half or something
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like that, making five figures. So it's like when people
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seen that, I was like, okay, let me do it again.
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Did it again with another creator. Did it again and
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kept doing it. So it built my credibility to the
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point where I'm like, okay, I'm going to make this
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OnlyFans and teach y'all how I did, how I'm blowing
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these people up and doing this and that. And yeah,
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I made a lot of money.
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Yeah. Do you, but like that situation, cause I've, I've
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done some management stuff, but don't you ever find yourself
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in positions where like people kind of, they turn their
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back on you. Have you been your back turned on? Like, like,
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like someone be like, you didn't do this for me.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know how that'd be. Everybody want attention.
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Yeah.
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They want all your attention. So it's, It happens. It
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is what it is. It's business, but I don't feel
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no type of way about it.
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Speaking of attention, what happened with the whole Ruby Bros
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and the whole wearing the shirt thing? Did you make
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a song literally because of that? Did you make the
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song the next week or something?
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I made a song because I'm the type of nigga
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where I maximize all negativity. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
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I just seen, even though internally the whole situation is
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completely different than what it look like online, I'm just
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the type of nigga to troll and try to maximize
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every dollar. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to get
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on stream, talk about it a little bit, make some money,
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get my clips. I'm going to go ahead and make
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a little video, clickbait the titles a little bit. Then
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after that, I'm going to make a song. So it's like,
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if y'all going to hate on me, at minimum, I
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got to make money.
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Well, what was the problem? What were they mad about?
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They just think I'm a dog now. That's not what
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it is, though. But I'm not the type of nigga
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to really get on there and explain and tell nobody business.
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So it's like, I know what it looks like, and
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I'm okay with getting hated on. You feel me? Like,
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I don't really care. Like, the internet is fake. And
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I guarantee you, even though we talking about it right now,
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which I know you probably going to use this as
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your title and shit.
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Maybe some title, something in there, yeah?
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Yeah, but I mean, you probably going to bring this
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shit back up. I know motherfuckers want to hear about
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it and shit. But other than that, it's like people forget.
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I'm still happily where I'm at.
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Yeah.
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You know, if it was really a serious situation, like
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the female I'm dating, I'm pretty sure it's hundreds of
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thousands of people that want her. You know what I mean?
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And she has plenty of options. If it was really
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a serious situation internally, she would have been gone.
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Yeah, Halle would have loved her.
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Yeah, come on, man.
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She.
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You know what that is? So it's like, people don't
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look at that though. They think she like doing something wrong,
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but in reality they don't know what's really going on.
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Yeah.
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So, but it wasn't, it's not on purpose. Like it's,
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it seemed like she wanted to clout. She was coming
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after it.
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Yeah. I just see, find the whole situation lame. It's like,
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that's just so, it's just lame to me. Like, as
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you can see from my end, like I'm not exposing
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no messages. That's some real lame shit real real females
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ain't doing no shit like that you know what i
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mean like just trying to screenshot and show some shit
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and tweet and get retweets and all that other shit
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and then when she see ain't nothing go down and
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she shut it all down then it's like you ain't
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got nothing else you feel me so it's like.
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But the blogs and all that stuff like i feel
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like that's i don't know like it seems like the
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music industry well i guess just social media in general
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like people thrive on just that type of attention that
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negativity Like negativity seems to be like, cause I saw
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a tweet, which I fully, I fully relate to. You
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were tweeted like a couple of days ago about like,
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it doesn't matter if you're super positive, like no one
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really gives a fuck. And if, but if you're negative,
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people are all over it and they're trying to figure
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it out and they're trying to like make this be
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something that they want it to be and create these stories. Um,
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have you dealt with more like negativity or positivity throughout
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your career? Would you say? Cause you obviously know how
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to spin it.
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Yeah.
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Positivity for sure.
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Yeah.
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Um, I'm rarely hating on them. Like, this is my
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first go around, so. Really? Yeah, it's kind of, it's
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kind of a little weird to me. I'm usually the
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most liked motherfucker. So it's a little different when I'm
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on the other end of the pole and it's like
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motherfuckers hating on me, but I'm starting to navigate through
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it and starting to really figure out how to, you know,
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deal with it.
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Yeah.
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It's a whole different audience for me, so it's like.
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The angry haters?
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Yeah, it's like, you know, Twitter makes, I was talking
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to them Somebody yesterday, and we was talking about Twitter,
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and Twitter makes a fan so much more powerful on
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any other social media. Twitter makes a fan damn near
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a celebrity. Yeah. Because you can have five followers. You
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can have 100 followers. You tweet the right shit.
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Yeah, it goes crazy.
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And the right motherfucker retweeted it like it. It's over with.
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Your shit going 5,000 retweets, a million views. You're starting
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a whole scandal.
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Everyone sees it. Twitter's fucking powerful, man. I love it.
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It is. It's dope, though. I fuck with it for
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that reason. But at the same time, when you get negativity,
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it's kind of ass. But at the end of the day,
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that's why I fuck with it. I be on that
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bitch every day. That's my favorite app.
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Yeah. Are you heavy on Instagram?
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I like Instagram, but I just post a picture and
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get off, for real. I might post a little story
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or something.
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What about TikTok?
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TikTok consumes most of my time.
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What's your on that?
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I don't post on there, but I post on there,
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but not as often. I'm just starting to really post
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on there. But when I wake up, TikTok is definitely like,
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I close that motherfucker, go check out Instagram for a second,
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maybe Twitter. close them open tiktok back up scroll a
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little more close it open it back up yeah yeah
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it's hard to get off like in between.
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Yeah in between going to the bathroom come back to
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it yeah i'm saying like tiktok's tough man like i
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will i'm telling you the truth like i literally one
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day i was scrolling and i remember like i felt
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like i had to pull myself away from it because
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it was so it got me so wrapped into it
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which is crazy though because like you gotta think these
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kids are probably rotting their fucking brains man Like that
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nonstop scroll and just like the attention span.
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My nephew, he watched YouTube Shorts though.
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Same shit.
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Yeah, same exact thing. Like they all doing the same shit.
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But like he watched YouTube Shorts a lot. I feel
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like a lot more kids is on YouTube Shorts versus TikTok.
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I feel like TikTok is really people our age. Yeah.
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What content do you enjoy making the most now? Like
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what do you have the most besides music stuff, obviously?
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Like what content on social? Because I still see you
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do a bunch of vlogs still.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, I like just vlogging. I like just
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having fun, daily life shit. That's really it. It's like
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selfless shit, not too forced. I used to do like
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a lot of like series and shit where I like
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make up a storyline and I kind of like, you know,
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create like my own little mini series and mini TV
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show for a second and like just keep doing that.
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That's fun. But now it's just more so like just
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day in the life. I feel like that's more personable
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for my fans and shit.
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Why do you think people like you? Like, why do
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you think you're successful? Because obviously you've been doing this
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for long enough. You're able to see what works, algorithm, clickbait,
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all this kind of shit, titles. But why do you
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think people are drawn to you as a YouTuber?
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I think, and I say this before a conference, I
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think I'm one of the funniest people alive.
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Yo, what the fuck?
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I'm funny like i'm funny that statement was funny if
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you understand if you really understand my humor like i
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got a i got like a different type of humor
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you know what i mean like i got a troll
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mentality so it's like my humor is just a little
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different it's it's Not forced. You know what I mean?
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And once you get it, you're like, God damn, this
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nigga funny as hell. So I'm funny. I'm real. You know,
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I'm relatable. And it's just like, I don't know. Like,
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I like watching me.
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Damn.
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That's how you know it's good content. Anytime I see
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my content and I'm like, oh, this is funny and
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it's me, I'm like, that shit's probably really good.
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That's what I'm saying. Like, I watch my, sometimes when
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I edit a vlog or something, I'm watching them like, oh,
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this is funny. They're going to like this shit.
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You edit all your own stuff still?
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Most of it. Because I got a cameraman now. I
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just started doing the cameraman shit. I used to just
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vlog off my phone. I vlogged off my phone for
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like a whole year.
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What the fuck?
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Yeah, edit on iMovie on my phone.
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What the fuck?
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Shit, hella easy. But then I got into the cameraman shit,
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and it's way easier. So sometimes if I'm too tired,
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00:21:01.589 --> 00:21:03.029
I just ask him to cut it up. But I
493
00:21:03.049 --> 00:21:05.390
barely edit. I tell him don't even edit for real.
494
00:21:05.779 --> 00:21:06.019
Yeah.
495
00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:07.559
Cause my, you know, my vlogs now.
496
00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:08.539
Just like I'm raw.
497
00:21:08.819 --> 00:21:09.019
Yeah.
498
00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:11.079
It's like raw hour long type shit.
499
00:21:11.579 --> 00:21:14.240
Yeah. I think people, that's, that's coming back a lot more.
500
00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:16.720
Like people like that more right now. Cause I remember
501
00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:18.559
all this stuff kind of goes in phases of like
502
00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.569
what's popular, what people like, like the quicker stuff. I mean,
503
00:21:21.619 --> 00:21:24.390
obviously like the Mr. B shit insanely viral cause it's
504
00:21:24.410 --> 00:21:26.509
so crazy, but it's a specific audience for that kind
505
00:21:26.529 --> 00:21:26.829
of stuff.
506
00:21:26.970 --> 00:21:27.230
Yeah.
507
00:21:27.349 --> 00:21:28.650
You think you have like an older audience?
508
00:21:29.690 --> 00:21:29.950
Yeah.
509
00:21:29.990 --> 00:21:32.289
My fans grew up. I don't like to call them
510
00:21:32.349 --> 00:21:33.190
fans supporters.
511
00:21:33.630 --> 00:21:33.809
Yeah.
512
00:21:33.950 --> 00:21:34.910
They grew up for sure.
513
00:21:35.369 --> 00:21:35.509
Yeah.
514
00:21:36.299 --> 00:21:38.619
Everybody that come up to me and like take a picture, man,
515
00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:40.619
I've been watching you since I was 14, 15.
516
00:21:40.619 --> 00:21:40.900
Yeah.
517
00:21:41.089 --> 00:21:43.680
I get the same shit.
518
00:21:43.809 --> 00:21:46.089
Yeah. So they like, you know, they in their twenties now,
519
00:21:46.769 --> 00:21:48.849
but you know, I got kids that rock with me too,
520
00:21:48.910 --> 00:21:51.170
but I definitely have an older fan base now.
521
00:21:51.910 --> 00:21:52.109
Yeah.
522
00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:56.150
So, um, I guess on the, on the music side
523
00:21:56.170 --> 00:21:59.309
of things in relationship to like other content creators. And
524
00:21:59.509 --> 00:22:03.009
also do you, do you think that now in, in
525
00:22:03.049 --> 00:22:06.980
relationship to music to be like a, I don't know,
526
00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:10.559
to have a strong following as a music creator, not
527
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:12.700
just like a content creator, you kind of have to
528
00:22:13.140 --> 00:22:16.440
do social media. I feel like you can't do... I
529
00:22:16.460 --> 00:22:18.940
feel like almost now, it's like labels will be like, well,
530
00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:21.039
they're probably, if they're going to consider you, they're probably
531
00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.079
looking at your socials.
532
00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:27.039
You can't succeed in the music industry as just being
533
00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:32.779
a good artist no more. Unless you motherfucking Drake Lil Baby... Yeah.
534
00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:35.680
You know what I'm saying? And you motherfucking Travis Scott
535
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:39.180
and shit, and you already passed that threshold of trying
536
00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.859
to make it. Yeah. And you already so turnt and
537
00:22:41.900 --> 00:22:44.279
got such a solid fan base that you good. You
538
00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:46.119
know what I mean? You ain't really got to get online.
539
00:22:46.269 --> 00:22:49.150
Or somebody like Playboi Carti or Youngboy. You know what
540
00:22:49.170 --> 00:22:51.609
I mean? They fans is just there no matter what.
541
00:22:52.130 --> 00:22:54.990
So it's like if you ain't got that, it's like
542
00:22:55.029 --> 00:22:58.109
you have to be on social media. So it's like
543
00:22:58.970 --> 00:23:02.200
every song that's on the charts right now, Got hundreds
544
00:23:02.220 --> 00:23:03.720
of thousands of videos on TikTok.
545
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:04.500
Yeah.
546
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:05.829
It's all content.
547
00:23:06.509 --> 00:23:06.710
Yeah.
548
00:23:06.930 --> 00:23:08.130
I might piss a lot of people off with this,
549
00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:11.369
but why do people like Youngboy so much? Why do
550
00:23:11.390 --> 00:23:13.670
you think he's so popular? Playing with fire, man. He's
551
00:23:13.690 --> 00:23:16.430
like the craziest, huh? Playing with fire. No, I'm not
552
00:23:16.450 --> 00:23:18.089
saying I don't like him. I'm saying like.
553
00:23:18.109 --> 00:23:19.170
If that nigga fan base is crazy, I'm trying to
554
00:23:19.299 --> 00:23:19.779
tell you.
555
00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.420
That's what I'm saying. That's my question.
556
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:21.799
Why?
557
00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:23.539
It's not to say that I don't like him. I'm
558
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:27.619
just saying, why is he so fucking popular? Why is
559
00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:28.299
his fan base so crazy?
560
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.440
He's just real. He just say whatever. Like, that nigga...
561
00:23:31.940 --> 00:23:34.220
Get on the internet and tell you, you know what
562
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.019
I'm saying? He'd get on a song and tell you
563
00:23:36.059 --> 00:23:38.539
what the fuck happened last night, even though it's some
564
00:23:38.619 --> 00:23:41.740
crazy shit that a motherfucker wouldn't tell. You know what
565
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:43.759
I mean? Yeah. He just put all this shit in
566
00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:46.819
his music. By the way, I got a song with
567
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.000
him called Hood Melody. It just went gold yesterday.
568
00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:49.519
Yeah, I saw that.
569
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:51.539
Yeah, man. I saw that.
570
00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:54.000
Out of all these people you've worked with, who's your
571
00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.259
favorite that you've worked with? Which just kind of might
572
00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.519
be a hard question to answer because they might, you know.
573
00:23:58.759 --> 00:23:59.680
I would say Blueface.
574
00:24:00.130 --> 00:24:02.190
Yeah, he's nice, man. He's a nice dude.
575
00:24:02.230 --> 00:24:08.519
Yeah, he's very misconceptualized from his relationship and what's going
576
00:24:08.619 --> 00:24:10.960
on with him right now, but that's a real nigga. Like,
577
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.140
I fuck with Blueface, like, as, like, a real homie
578
00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:14.680
type shit.
579
00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:16.900
Yeah, he's cool. Like, I did a pod with him
580
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:18.740
and Stiney, and then he came to the gym and
581
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.779
worked out, and he was, like, not at all how
582
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.099
I expected him to be. Nice as fuck.
583
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.299
He nice as hell, man. He gave me my first
584
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.329
real big shot. Like, Blueface was my first real big feature.
585
00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:31.190
Yeah.
586
00:24:31.529 --> 00:24:32.529
Was it the Calabasas song?
587
00:24:32.730 --> 00:24:32.869
Mm-hmm.
588
00:24:33.049 --> 00:24:33.809
That shit blew up.
589
00:24:33.890 --> 00:24:36.130
He hit me up. He was like, let me remix that.
590
00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:38.950
I'm like, I don't know how this, because, you know,
591
00:24:39.529 --> 00:24:43.190
it's a whole different style. So I'm like, shit, fuck it.
592
00:24:43.430 --> 00:24:44.890
I mean, I don't know how it's going to go,
593
00:24:44.930 --> 00:24:48.339
but he put it. I went to the studio. He
594
00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:49.759
was like, all right, I'm going to come in right here,
595
00:24:50.180 --> 00:24:52.299
and I'm going to come in right here, and boom.
596
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:54.559
And we did it. And he did it right there
597
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:56.900
in the studio. I don't like all this shit. All right,
598
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:57.519
what the fuck?
599
00:24:57.599 --> 00:24:59.900
Yeah, that song. That song is dope.
600
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.690
Yeah, that shit went up, man. So yeah, shut up.
601
00:25:02.819 --> 00:25:05.160
So how does, if you could explain this, I don't
602
00:25:05.180 --> 00:25:06.839
know if you can, but I think you can. How
603
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:11.589
does music payment work? People make a song, the engineers
604
00:25:11.630 --> 00:25:13.690
get paid, the artists get paid, the label gets paid.
605
00:25:14.329 --> 00:25:15.529
How does that break down?
606
00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:21.019
Man, like the streams. Music costs so much money to make, bro.
607
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.019
That's why the shit don't come out as much. Because
608
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:28.690
it's like, bro, it's, You got producers out here charging $ 20, 000
609
00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:30.769
for a beat, and then they also want percentages on
610
00:25:30.789 --> 00:25:33.049
the back end. Then you got to pay the engineer.
611
00:25:33.069 --> 00:25:34.890
Then you got to pay to get it mixed and mastered.
612
00:25:35.230 --> 00:25:36.809
Then you got to pay to get it up on
613
00:25:36.829 --> 00:25:41.630
the streaming platforms. So it's just so much different size
614
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.160
of money that come from it. Then you got the
615
00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:46.039
publishing side when shit hit the radio and get played
616
00:25:46.099 --> 00:25:47.920
at this and that. You know what I mean? It's
617
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.980
so much different shit. But I started off independent, so
618
00:25:52.019 --> 00:25:55.140
I was independent for like, two, three years before I
619
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.019
even got signed to a label. So I was making
620
00:25:58.059 --> 00:25:59.900
a lot of money. Like, you make a lot of
621
00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:01.309
money on music. I'm not going to lie.
622
00:26:01.990 --> 00:26:03.809
So then why'd you go to label?
623
00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:06.990
Because you can't get to that point without a label.
624
00:26:07.029 --> 00:26:09.309
You can't get to that Drake level. You can't get
625
00:26:09.349 --> 00:26:13.069
to that Youngboy level. You know what I'm saying? You're
626
00:26:13.089 --> 00:26:15.539
not going to get there without a big machine behind
627
00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:17.380
you that's going to put you on these playlists, going
628
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.200
to put you on this. These labels got a whole
629
00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:21.599
building of motherfuckers that's just going to work your song.
630
00:26:22.220 --> 00:26:23.759
Make sure that they're going to do all the little
631
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:25.859
shit that you wouldn't do as an independent artist or
632
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:28.900
you can't do as an independent artist. So that's why
633
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.569
you see, like you couldn't tell me an independent artist
634
00:26:31.609 --> 00:26:35.109
right now that's on the charts. That's on top 40
635
00:26:35.109 --> 00:26:35.450
right now.
636
00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:36.769
I see what you're saying.
637
00:26:37.170 --> 00:26:38.130
Couldn't tell me because.
638
00:26:39.109 --> 00:26:41.970
Wait, so how do these playlist things work? Because don't
639
00:26:41.990 --> 00:26:43.990
playlists work like if you're on it and it gets
640
00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:45.819
a play, like if let's say Drake's on it and
641
00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:48.039
they play his song, all the whole playlist gets a play?
642
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.140
Kind of. It depends on, you know, the listener. So,
643
00:26:51.539 --> 00:26:54.920
you know, I just dropped a song recently called Way
644
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:55.440
Too Petty.
645
00:26:55.940 --> 00:26:56.119
Yeah.
646
00:26:56.180 --> 00:26:57.920
It's about this whole situation. Funny.
647
00:26:58.359 --> 00:26:58.720
Yeah.
648
00:26:58.900 --> 00:27:02.150
And I drop a lot of songs just on YouTube.
649
00:27:02.549 --> 00:27:03.710
But I was like, you know, I'm going to push
650
00:27:03.750 --> 00:27:07.569
this through my label. And they was able to get
651
00:27:07.609 --> 00:27:10.430
it on Rap Caviar top 20.
652
00:27:10.430 --> 00:27:10.650
Yeah.
653
00:27:11.009 --> 00:27:13.759
Just like that. It's all connections. Like, I don't know
654
00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:16.119
if it's money involved with the playlist. It might be.
655
00:27:16.140 --> 00:27:19.380
It might be a retainer. You never know. But, you know,
656
00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:21.779
it was so easy for them to get on Rap Caviar,
657
00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:26.700
which has, like, 12 20 million listeners on it so
658
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.680
it's like if you get on that playlist you're good
659
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.140
like you you on spotify you're good like you're gonna
660
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.680
if your song's good it's gonna get played and you're
661
00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:39.140
in the mix with motherfuckers like the you know the
662
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.680
big hitters so it's like once they song get played
663
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.160
by their fans on there your song come next so
664
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.509
you gaining new fans when you get on these playlists.
665
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.279
Yeah But it doesn't work like I'm thinking. If it works,
666
00:27:50.299 --> 00:27:52.559
like if someone on there gets a play, then everyone
667
00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:55.059
else gets a play. It's just because it's like in rotation.
668
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.660
Nah, it's like if a motherfucker get on your song
669
00:27:57.940 --> 00:27:59.599
while they on a playlist, they might not like it
670
00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:01.000
and skip it. You never know.
671
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.900
So the song needs a certain amount of play to
672
00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:03.759
get like a stream.
673
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:04.940
30 seconds.
674
00:28:04.940 --> 00:28:05.759
30 seconds.
675
00:28:05.779 --> 00:28:06.039
Yeah.
676
00:28:06.059 --> 00:28:07.660
So if they play a song for 30 seconds, it
677
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:08.299
counts as a stream.
678
00:28:08.819 --> 00:28:12.940
Okay. And so the money comes based on, because I mean,
679
00:28:13.049 --> 00:28:14.450
I kind of have an idea of this. I've talked
680
00:28:14.470 --> 00:28:16.769
to other people about it, but. People listening probably think
681
00:28:16.809 --> 00:28:18.410
about this kind of stuff. So the money comes based
682
00:28:18.529 --> 00:28:21.130
on how many times it gets played and then how
683
00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:21.970
long it gets played?
684
00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:24.710
Nah. Once it hit that 30 seconds, you good. That's
685
00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:26.650
a stream. You can click off my shit at that point.
686
00:28:26.670 --> 00:28:31.240
I already got my stream. But how many plays it is,
687
00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:32.319
it's just like YouTube.
688
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:32.880
Yeah.
689
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.119
So on YouTube, when you drop a music video and
690
00:28:36.140 --> 00:28:39.799
it gets like fucking 20 million views or 90 million views,
691
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.160
this is just YouTube? Like AdSense?
692
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:50.660
Yeah, that's regular shit. It's completely different. Apple and Tidal
693
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.789
makes the most money for streaming. You'll make way more
694
00:28:54.849 --> 00:28:59.250
money on CPMs. It's all CPMs. It's just regular shit.
695
00:28:59.930 --> 00:29:00.789
Your shit get a lot of.
696
00:29:00.789 --> 00:29:01.970
Views on Apple.
697
00:29:01.990 --> 00:29:04.309
You make a lot of money. Spotify is like half that,
698
00:29:04.349 --> 00:29:07.480
I think. You still make a lot of money, though.
699
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.700
What's the most you've ever made from a song? I'm
700
00:29:09.740 --> 00:29:11.160
assuming it's the Calabasas one.
701
00:29:11.730 --> 00:29:15.579
Yeah, I dropped that independently. No, I dropped. You dropped
702
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.119
that independently? No. Yeah, man. Oh, shit. I dropped it independently.
703
00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:26.539
Because look, this will happen. This will happen. So in 2019,
704
00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:29.069
I believe, I think that's when I dropped it. I
705
00:29:29.069 --> 00:29:32.950
dropped an album called Valedictorian, which was really forced. It
706
00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:34.849
was just a bunch of songs. I'm fresh in the
707
00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:37.650
industry as a sign artist. like i'm just i put
708
00:29:37.650 --> 00:29:40.160
18 songs on there not really thinking about the business
709
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.420
of it yeah how much money needs to be spent
710
00:29:42.940 --> 00:29:44.660
and it's a lot of money getting spent and i'm
711
00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:46.539
rushing out an album that you know i'm saying i
712
00:29:46.619 --> 00:29:49.900
know in my heart it's not that good you feel
713
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.529
me yeah so i put it out shit ain't do
714
00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:56.950
nothing you know i mean it wasn't really nothing crazy
715
00:29:56.970 --> 00:30:01.349
you Wasn't that good? So, you know, that kind of
716
00:30:01.660 --> 00:30:03.589
fucked me up a little bit. And I kind of
717
00:30:03.609 --> 00:30:06.730
got put on the shelf at my label. So, you know,
718
00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:10.009
even thinking from a business aspect of me owning my
719
00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:13.730
own independent label, if I put millions of dollars behind
720
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.160
this motherfucker and I make, you know what I'm saying,
721
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.059
I don't make it back, then I'm like, okay, let
722
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.900
me focus on somebody else type shit. So I feel
723
00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:24.980
him on that. But after that, I'm like, okay, let
724
00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:27.240
me go ahead, get on the ground, and start running again.
725
00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:29.059
So I just started dropping independently myself.
726
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.200
You were able to be signed and drop independent at
727
00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:32.700
the same time?
728
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.680
Yeah, because I'm under the radar at that point. They
729
00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:37.630
don't really give a fuck. You got to think about it.
730
00:30:38.789 --> 00:30:43.230
My label got fucking future DJ Khaled, 21 Savage and shit.
731
00:30:43.250 --> 00:30:46.750
They got niggas that's really making them millions of dollars.
732
00:30:46.769 --> 00:30:49.349
So I'm like, okay, I'm on the shelf, but I
733
00:30:49.390 --> 00:30:52.529
ain't finna fall off. I'm finna make this shit work, so.
734
00:30:53.210 --> 00:30:55.890
I just started dropping like once a month, kept going.
735
00:30:56.289 --> 00:31:00.869
And I just, I got one. But I dropped, I
736
00:31:00.910 --> 00:31:03.269
got a song that went gold that I dropped independently.
737
00:31:05.170 --> 00:31:05.970
It's called Arguments.
738
00:31:06.450 --> 00:31:06.670
Okay.
739
00:31:07.009 --> 00:31:09.869
It's an R & B song. But I made like,
740
00:31:10.230 --> 00:31:12.579
I signed it over to my label at some point,
741
00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:13.990
but I made like half a million on it.
742
00:31:14.619 --> 00:31:15.430
On the Calabasas one?
743
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:16.440
No, Arguments.
744
00:31:16.660 --> 00:31:17.500
Oh, okay.
745
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.759
Calabasas made a lot of money, but I signed it
746
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.230
over to the label to really... You know what I'm saying?
747
00:31:24.250 --> 00:31:24.829
Make that bitch go.
748
00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:25.369
Yeah.
749
00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:30.349
Feel me? But I dropped it independently because Blueface leaked it.
750
00:31:30.740 --> 00:31:31.720
So I was like, I got to hurry up and
751
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.279
just put it out.
752
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:33.079
Yeah.
753
00:31:33.619 --> 00:31:34.480
That shit went crazy.
754
00:31:35.460 --> 00:31:35.680
Yeah.
755
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.359
That shit went up. I go over to like Amsterdam
756
00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:41.039
and shit and they singing that motherfucker. And I didn't
757
00:31:41.059 --> 00:31:42.900
really get to experience that because I dropped it in
758
00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:45.650
a pandemic. So it's like when I dropped it, I
759
00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:47.849
didn't even know. Like I still don't feel like it's
760
00:31:47.890 --> 00:31:50.750
a huge song. until i go somewhere and i hear
761
00:31:50.769 --> 00:31:52.880
motherfucking singing it because i didn't get to go to
762
00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:56.559
the clubs and get to go performing here and there
763
00:31:56.579 --> 00:31:57.740
because we stuck.
764
00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.799
In the house have you have you toured much yeah
765
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:01.500
yeah i.
766
00:32:01.460 --> 00:32:04.500
Just i went on a tour in 2021 that was
767
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.079
my last time it's been a long time actually but
768
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.069
um i went with kevin gates yeah for three months
769
00:32:11.549 --> 00:32:13.200
we went around the whole united.
770
00:32:12.950 --> 00:32:16.779
States what's the most fun you've ever had on tour Depends.
771
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.460
I don't know. I don't really have a favorite tour moment,
772
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.359
to be honest. It's all fun.
773
00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:22.579
You've done overseas stuff, though.
774
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say that's the most fun
775
00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:28.069
I had. I did a festival tour where I went
776
00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:34.049
to different countries and shit, like Amsterdam, Portugal. Where else
777
00:32:34.069 --> 00:32:41.059
did I go? London. A bunch of weird-ass places in Europe.
778
00:32:41.789 --> 00:32:44.650
but that was it was hella fun like european audiences
779
00:32:44.710 --> 00:32:46.250
is 10 times better than the.
780
00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:48.660
U.s yeah okay this is funny because i can relate
781
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.900
to it's just in the fitness industry like you know
782
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.539
you you have things here and it seems like everyone's
783
00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:55.119
kind of like they like you but they kind of
784
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:56.569
don't like you because they kind of want to like
785
00:32:56.700 --> 00:32:59.230
be in your position and then in europe they're like
786
00:32:59.349 --> 00:33:00.529
they're just all love.
787
00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:02.670
Yeah that's the best way to put it everybody in
788
00:33:02.710 --> 00:33:05.819
that audience looking at you like I can do this.
789
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.880
He hard and shit, but I come with it. Yeah,
790
00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:10.880
I can do this shit. Yeah, they too cool. So
791
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.039
when you go to Europe, they don't give a fuck.
792
00:33:13.059 --> 00:33:14.200
They never see Americans.
793
00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:14.660
Yeah.
794
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.980
So they freaking out when they see you. They jumping up,
795
00:33:17.180 --> 00:33:20.799
energy crazy. So it's like, yeah, I like performing overseas.
796
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.500
Is there anyone that you've met as an artist or
797
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.829
a celebrity that you've been excited to meet or anyone
798
00:33:26.849 --> 00:33:28.200
that you're excited to still meet?
799
00:33:30.009 --> 00:33:30.569
I met Drake.
800
00:33:31.150 --> 00:33:32.430
Oh, that's dope. What was that like?
801
00:33:32.470 --> 00:33:33.569
That was a dope moment for me.
802
00:33:33.809 --> 00:33:34.400
Where'd you meet him at?
803
00:33:35.670 --> 00:33:38.829
I met him at Beyonce birthday party. Oh, shit.
804
00:33:39.190 --> 00:33:39.450
Yeah.
805
00:33:39.509 --> 00:33:39.930
Just like a bar.
806
00:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.319
I met everybody, bro. I didn't meet everybody at this point.
807
00:33:42.490 --> 00:33:42.690
Yeah.
808
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.359
But I never met Drake. Like, I go out and
809
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.440
I see niggas everywhere, but I never met him. And
810
00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:49.400
I'm like, bro, this is my favorite artist and shit.
811
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.339
So I just, that was my first time seeing him.
812
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.160
I'm like, damn, I got to say something to this nigga.
813
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:56.200
Yeah. So top five rappers for you?
814
00:33:56.890 --> 00:34:00.329
Top five. I would say Drake.
815
00:34:00.970 --> 00:34:01.170
Yeah.
816
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:03.839
People are going to get me butchered, but I don't
817
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.960
give a fuck. It is what it is. I ain't
818
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.489
no fake nigga. On some real shit, I didn't grow
819
00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:13.489
up listening to older rappers.
820
00:34:13.510 --> 00:34:14.769
Rob Markman, I know. They're going to be like, what
821
00:34:14.789 --> 00:34:15.409
about Tupac?
822
00:34:15.469 --> 00:34:19.269
Yeah, it's like, bro, I was born the year that
823
00:34:19.469 --> 00:34:23.090
Tupac passed. You know what I'm saying? I didn't grow
824
00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:25.969
up in that era. You feel me? So I would say.
825
00:34:27.289 --> 00:34:27.550
Drake.
826
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.360
Also, too, fuck what people are saying. People always talk shit.
827
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:32.099
Yeah, I don't give a fuck. I troll them all day.
828
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:33.860
I don't give a damn. I sit up here and
829
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.219
tell you a deal. I don't give a damn. It
830
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.940
is what it is. But nah, I would say Drake, Future,
831
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:48.420
Young Thug. Them like the top three, me, man. I
832
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.570
would say, I might miss, I'm going to miss somebody
833
00:34:51.610 --> 00:34:53.570
for sure. You say Juice?
834
00:34:54.329 --> 00:34:54.849
I like Juice.
835
00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:57.860
Yeah, Juice hard. But I'm going to put I'm going
836
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:03.409
to put, let me think, let me see. Damn. See,
837
00:35:03.489 --> 00:35:04.070
when it gets to that.
838
00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:05.190
This is when it gets dicey.
839
00:35:05.250 --> 00:35:07.170
When you get to that four and five, they're like,
840
00:35:07.210 --> 00:35:10.510
why you ain't say him? Yeah. Let me say. Let
841
00:35:10.530 --> 00:35:12.150
me see. Let me see. I would say.
842
00:35:12.170 --> 00:35:15.519
Just got to fire it. Yeah.
843
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.500
I'm going to just say it. Let me see. Because
844
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:19.760
I ain't going to lie, bro. I really listen to
845
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:20.699
myself a lot.
846
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:21.719
Oh, shit.
847
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.800
Okay. On some real shit. I ain't going to say
848
00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:26.679
me because that's lame. And motherfuckers would be like, oh,
849
00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:28.800
you didn't anybody say that. But I ain't going to
850
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.920
say me. Oh, I'm tripping. Kanye West, right?
851
00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:33.400
Yeah.
852
00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:36.119
And then I would say Gunna.
853
00:35:37.420 --> 00:35:37.880
Damn.
854
00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:39.800
I ain't going to lie. I fuck with Gunna heavy, bro.
855
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:40.820
Even after all the shit?
856
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.909
Yeah. Fuck all that, right? It ain't got nothing to
857
00:35:43.969 --> 00:35:44.309
do with me.
858
00:35:44.329 --> 00:35:47.190
Yeah. Why do you think people are so like, I mean,
859
00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:50.489
I understand this idea, but also like people are like,
860
00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:53.170
so crazy on the internet about this like snitching shit
861
00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:54.630
that it's like all of a sudden the music is
862
00:35:54.670 --> 00:35:56.769
just gone like everyone's like this music is trash.
863
00:35:56.570 --> 00:35:58.489
Now cause you don't really I don't cause you don't
864
00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:01.260
really know internally I feel like niggas that's in that
865
00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:03.980
whole situation in that case they can speak on it
866
00:36:04.539 --> 00:36:05.960
and they can say what they want to say but
867
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.820
like fans y'all niggas don't know what's going on like
868
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.019
y'all don't really know what's going on internally just like
869
00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:13.059
with my situation with the drama that's been going on
870
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.239
with me y'all don't know what's really going on so
871
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.400
it's like you can't sit here and judge off that
872
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.619
shit and I'm the type of nigga like If I
873
00:36:21.659 --> 00:36:23.920
fuck with you, I fuck with you. You know what
874
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.260
I mean? It ain't got nothing to do with me.
875
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.460
And Gunna is like a nigga that really embraced me
876
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.909
on some artist shit. When I met him, we did
877
00:36:31.969 --> 00:36:37.289
a song. It's called Elon Musk. And when I met him,
878
00:36:37.369 --> 00:36:41.389
just a real dude. You know what I mean?
879
00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:43.150
He was cool. Speaking of Elon Musk, that's the one
880
00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:44.670
guy that I really want to meet. As far as
881
00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:46.690
like a celebrity or a person. There's no one else
882
00:36:46.730 --> 00:36:47.610
really that I'm excited.
883
00:36:47.889 --> 00:36:49.900
I made a whole song about him. I tweeted at
884
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:51.800
him and everything. He never hit me back. Damn.
885
00:36:51.860 --> 00:36:54.639
Fuck that. Fuck him. Fuck him. You hit us on
886
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:55.880
Twitter too. Was it Twitter recently?
887
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.039
Nah. I dropped a song like last year.
888
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.369
You got to hit it on Twitter again, bro.
889
00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:00.960
Yeah, yeah.
890
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.039
Because he's been on that shit. He's on Twitter like
891
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:03.679
every day.
892
00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:05.780
I think I'm going to try again. I'm going to
893
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.449
try again. I'm going to just spam him and see
894
00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:08.050
if he see it.
895
00:37:08.329 --> 00:37:08.730
You should.
896
00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:10.869
I know. He had to hear it at this point though.
897
00:37:11.449 --> 00:37:12.030
I'm sure he did.
898
00:37:12.309 --> 00:37:12.630
We'll see.
899
00:37:12.889 --> 00:37:14.630
Yeah, he plays hard to get. I'd love to get
900
00:37:14.650 --> 00:37:16.190
him on the podcast, man. I know they did him
901
00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:17.820
on Full Send. They didn't have me on. They fucking
902
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:18.559
played me on that one.
903
00:37:18.780 --> 00:37:19.159
For real?
904
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:20.019
Yeah, bro.
905
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:20.820
That's crazy.
906
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:22.099
Fucked up. It's all good.
907
00:37:23.659 --> 00:37:24.019
Fuck it.
908
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.360
Yo, so you're thinking about starting a podcast?
909
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:27.420
Yeah, I am.
910
00:37:27.579 --> 00:37:27.820
Yeah.
911
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:29.500
I think I'd be a good host.
912
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.300
What would it be like around music or just around
913
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:33.079
life or?
914
00:37:34.139 --> 00:37:36.659
Just anything. Same shit you're doing.
915
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:37.000
Yeah.
916
00:37:37.019 --> 00:37:40.329
You know. Probably come up with something fun to do.
917
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.199
While I'm doing it, but I don't know. I've been
918
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.699
thinking about it. I've really been thinking hard about it.
919
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.500
I just don't want to get too deep into it
920
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:54.119
because I'm really like, I'm extremely passionate about music. So
921
00:37:54.219 --> 00:37:57.019
I kind of be holding off of doing shit like
922
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.099
auditions and shit because I know I can fuck around
923
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.639
and take off in the acting world. And it's like,
924
00:38:02.659 --> 00:38:04.699
I don't want to take away from my music yet.
925
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.619
I really want to see if I can... really make
926
00:38:08.659 --> 00:38:09.559
this shit pop.
927
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:11.639
But you would get more into acting it seems in
928
00:38:11.659 --> 00:38:12.360
the future.
929
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.960
I feel like because acting takes a lot of time
930
00:38:14.980 --> 00:38:17.920
oh yeah like just being around my girl and shit
931
00:38:17.940 --> 00:38:20.940
and just seeing how how much work that shit is
932
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.579
and like being on set for two three months in
933
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.579
the middle of nowhere you're all day all day it's
934
00:38:26.619 --> 00:38:29.559
like that shit is real work so it's like i
935
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.440
know i ain't gonna have time for no music.
936
00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:33.539
Yeah so you'd have to get them you'd have to
937
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.679
like Kind of stamp it first before you go and.
938
00:38:35.739 --> 00:38:37.599
Play over there. Yeah, I want to super stamp it
939
00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:41.070
before I start dipping and dabbing into that industry. YouTube
940
00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:43.170
is like, do that shit in my sleep.
941
00:38:43.449 --> 00:38:43.690
Yeah.
942
00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:45.849
So it's like, I don't see no point in stopping that,
943
00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:46.809
and you know what the money like.
944
00:38:47.250 --> 00:38:48.750
Yeah, YouTube's amazing, bro.
945
00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:51.219
Yeah, it's the best job in the world, so why
946
00:38:51.260 --> 00:38:52.179
the fuck would I stop?
947
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:56.360
Yeah. It's honestly a blessing, and it's crazy. This stuff, too, though,
948
00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:58.599
the podcast trips me out because it's like, I was
949
00:38:58.619 --> 00:39:01.099
talking to someone about this the other day, like, I
950
00:39:01.179 --> 00:39:03.039
literally get to sit here and like talk to people
951
00:39:03.059 --> 00:39:05.360
who are super interesting and like learn about them and
952
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.300
like share it. And then that's a way of living
953
00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:09.989
for me, which is such a crazy concept.
954
00:39:10.150 --> 00:39:10.849
Yeah, no, it's dope.
955
00:39:11.190 --> 00:39:11.969
It's really, really cool.
956
00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:13.010
You're a good host too, man.
957
00:39:13.269 --> 00:39:13.849
I appreciate it.
958
00:39:13.849 --> 00:39:14.429
Yeah, you're doing good.
959
00:39:14.469 --> 00:39:14.789
Thank you.
960
00:39:15.090 --> 00:39:15.829
Sure.
961
00:39:16.190 --> 00:39:19.230
So as far as like life and just shit in
962
00:39:19.269 --> 00:39:21.550
general outside of music, outside of like content you make,
963
00:39:21.550 --> 00:39:25.500
do you do anything that people wouldn't know that you do?
964
00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:27.699
Like like do you meditate do you focus on like
965
00:39:27.909 --> 00:39:29.719
mental health is it like do you focus on like
966
00:39:29.780 --> 00:39:31.539
physical health like are you active in the like are
967
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.219
you doing anything that people wouldn't know that you do
968
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.380
like that you don't put out on the internet like
969
00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:36.780
you crushing mushrooms and like.
970
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.380
I have started eating mushrooms i don't do it like often.
971
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.840
I do yeah yeah microdose not like crazy doses all
972
00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:44.599
the time because that's.
973
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.079
Unsustainable tweaked a couple times i ain't.
974
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.539
Gonna lie i have to Yeah, I have to.
975
00:39:49.579 --> 00:39:52.219
Bro, I done seen melted faces and everything. Bro, I
976
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.440
done seen some shit. I ain't going to lie. No,
977
00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:58.019
I have to. But it's dope, though, because, bro, I
978
00:39:58.059 --> 00:40:00.199
eat a mushroom and I get to crying and shit. Bro,
979
00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.179
I don't cry at all.
980
00:40:01.420 --> 00:40:01.679
Yeah.
981
00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:04.739
Like, I don't never cry, bro. It's like it really
982
00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:05.980
take your whole ego away.
983
00:40:06.059 --> 00:40:06.840
Yeah, it opens you up.
984
00:40:06.980 --> 00:40:10.159
Yeah, and it's like, bro, like, I ate a mushroom
985
00:40:10.219 --> 00:40:12.320
in Hawaii. I never told this story, bro. I ate
986
00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:15.949
a mushroom in Hawaii, right? And you know how mushrooms,
987
00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:19.090
you're supposed to be away. like you're supposed to be
988
00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:22.090
dolo in the cut with your homies people you love
989
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:24.489
and all that shit yeah i'm at the beach and
990
00:40:24.530 --> 00:40:26.800
it's like fans coming up to me but i'm like
991
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:32.440
tweaking bro that's a lot i felt like true like
992
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.739
i was on hollywood boulevard bro i'm like that's what
993
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.389
i'm saying bro i was tripping so i had to
994
00:40:39.429 --> 00:40:42.469
like i was low-key snapping on fans and shit on
995
00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:45.530
accident though like It wasn't even me trying to, like,
996
00:40:45.590 --> 00:40:47.840
be mean. It's just I'm tweaking out and they talking
997
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.139
about pictures and shit. And my fucking vision is everywhere. Like,
998
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.300
it was crazy, bro. And I had to, like, sit down.
999
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.139
But for some reason, like, I was feigning to be
1000
00:40:59.179 --> 00:41:02.320
in the forest. Like, you ever felt like that?
1001
00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:02.820
Yeah.
1002
00:41:02.980 --> 00:41:05.900
Bro, I was feigning to be by some trees and shit.
1003
00:41:05.940 --> 00:41:07.980
And I'm like, bro, I really need to find, like,
1004
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.460
the trees. I really need. I'm telling everybody I'm around, like, bro,
1005
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.699
please take me. To the forest. You know, you were on.
1006
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:14.400
The beach at the time.
1007
00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:14.920
Yeah.
1008
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.000
You've been to Hawaii? Yes.
1009
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:16.360
Yeah.
1010
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.409
Yeah. So you know how they forces is like.
1011
00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:19.119
Beautiful.
1012
00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:21.690
It's crazy. It looked like fucking Avatar and shit.
1013
00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:21.869
Yeah.
1014
00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:23.730
I'm on the beach at the time around a bunch
1015
00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:26.769
of people tweaking out like a motherfucker. Like I'm so uneasy.
1016
00:41:26.789 --> 00:41:29.769
This is the worst trip ever. So then I finally
1017
00:41:29.809 --> 00:41:30.530
get to leave.
1018
00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:30.909
Right.
1019
00:41:32.010 --> 00:41:34.900
And I get to a forest and bro, I felt
1020
00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:38.630
like I was in heaven. It was the craziest feeling.
1021
00:41:38.750 --> 00:41:41.489
I did not want to leave. Bro, I was in
1022
00:41:41.510 --> 00:41:43.550
the forest for like an hour, two hours. They're like,
1023
00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:46.039
come on, let's leave. I'm like, just wait. I'm just
1024
00:41:46.059 --> 00:41:50.300
trying to sit here, bro. It's crazy. I fuck with mushrooms.
1025
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.019
I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie.
1026
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.349
I fuck with this shit. It really makes you understand
1027
00:41:58.230 --> 00:42:01.050
none of this shit really matter. You know what I mean?
1028
00:42:01.429 --> 00:42:04.469
What helps you disconnect from the ego of your relationship
1029
00:42:04.489 --> 00:42:07.409
to how you think people should view you or how you're,
1030
00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:09.469
you know, like this whole idea of like, am I
1031
00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:10.650
good enough and all this shit. And it kind of
1032
00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:12.190
just makes you be like, I'm just me.
1033
00:42:12.750 --> 00:42:15.289
Facts. Just human. Like I'm just, I'm here just like
1034
00:42:15.329 --> 00:42:15.889
everybody else.
1035
00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:18.170
And the interesting thing about shrooms to me is always
1036
00:42:18.190 --> 00:42:21.849
that like, it's always how it is. You're just not,
1037
00:42:22.409 --> 00:42:24.869
your perception is not seeing it that way. And you
1038
00:42:24.949 --> 00:42:26.610
complicate it with all this other stuff. Cause like, we're
1039
00:42:26.630 --> 00:42:28.969
just in our, you know, our conscious mind going like this,
1040
00:42:29.710 --> 00:42:31.969
but with the mushrooms, it opens up the subconscious and
1041
00:42:31.989 --> 00:42:33.949
it just like allows you to just be more open
1042
00:42:34.010 --> 00:42:36.940
in general and, without all those filters of like ego
1043
00:42:36.980 --> 00:42:39.000
related to, like I said, how people view me or
1044
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.119
how you want people to view you. And it's just,
1045
00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:44.199
it just makes you more like, Oh, this is okay.
1046
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.199
And the interesting part about it, I was saying is like,
1047
00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:48.840
if you could realize that is how your life can
1048
00:42:48.989 --> 00:42:51.329
always be. It's just hard for people to make that connection.
1049
00:42:51.929 --> 00:42:53.429
And it's hard for people to let that sustain because
1050
00:42:53.469 --> 00:42:56.230
it's so easy to get caught up in the negative
1051
00:42:56.269 --> 00:42:58.190
shit or what someone's saying or like how, you know,
1052
00:42:58.349 --> 00:43:00.849
Oh my, am I good enough? And that's the real
1053
00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.000
reason why I really like mushrooms is because like over time,
1054
00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:05.829
the more that I've like experienced them and, Then the microdosing,
1055
00:43:05.869 --> 00:43:07.710
obviously I'm not saying I'm taking crazy amounts every day.
1056
00:43:07.730 --> 00:43:09.030
That's not, I don't think that's sustainable.
1057
00:43:09.070 --> 00:43:09.719
You do it every day.
1058
00:43:10.099 --> 00:43:12.980
No, no, no. So like what I'll do is typically like,
1059
00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:17.059
I'll take like 0.5 to like one for like a
1060
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.260
month and then stop for months. So I'll do it
1061
00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:22.719
like kind of just therapeutically where I'm taking like microdoses.
1062
00:43:23.250 --> 00:43:24.670
And then I'll stop. I don't take it every day
1063
00:43:24.750 --> 00:43:25.050
all the time.
1064
00:43:25.070 --> 00:43:26.630
So what did that do for you? Cause I just
1065
00:43:26.670 --> 00:43:28.050
eat the raw mushroom and shit.
1066
00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:28.409
Yeah, no.
1067
00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:29.809
So I'm doing that as well. But when I take
1068
00:43:29.829 --> 00:43:32.130
them in those amounts, I grind them up so that they're,
1069
00:43:32.309 --> 00:43:34.710
it's like an actual weighted amount. So it's very specific
1070
00:43:35.150 --> 00:43:37.190
and I'm not just taking like a bunch of mushrooms.
1071
00:43:37.809 --> 00:43:39.409
Cause I obviously have done that where I've taken like,
1072
00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:41.719
you know, 3.54 grams and I'm just like, I'm on
1073
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.380
a trip and it's like six hours and it's the
1074
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:44.920
whole day, but I'm not doing that every day. That's
1075
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.800
completely unsustainable. I'm taking the micro doses that just you
1076
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.460
get this effect, this overall sense of, you know, on
1077
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.599
the mushrooms, like when you're either coming down or coming
1078
00:43:53.659 --> 00:43:56.400
up and you're just like, oh man, everything's good. You're
1079
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.400
not all visual yet. You just feel good. And that's,
1080
00:43:59.420 --> 00:44:01.360
you kind of get that little bit of sense while
1081
00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:04.239
you're doing it. And like I said, overall, you get
1082
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.619
closer to that, that just idea, like you're able to
1083
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.650
make it more real more often than not that like
1084
00:44:10.789 --> 00:44:12.670
everything's okay. Kind of like no matter what.
1085
00:44:12.949 --> 00:44:13.150
Yeah.
1086
00:44:13.289 --> 00:44:14.510
And it kind of allows you just to be more
1087
00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:16.550
present to just kind of continue to go forward with
1088
00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:20.570
whatever you want to like achieve. Instead of complicating where
1089
00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:22.110
you're going to get to and how long it's going
1090
00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:25.400
to take and who thinks about what about this. Because
1091
00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:28.019
that's what we do. We complicate the shit out of everything.
1092
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:29.860
And it's like the people who get most success in
1093
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.320
their life are the ones who are able to focus
1094
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.380
on their shit right now and block out all the
1095
00:44:34.420 --> 00:44:37.099
noise and just go forward. And I think that's the
1096
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.239
thing that I've really gotten from it.
1097
00:44:38.659 --> 00:44:41.340
Yeah, no, I got to get into the microdosing shit.
1098
00:44:42.139 --> 00:44:43.420
Yeah, that's game changing.
1099
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.840
Yeah, I got to try it.
1100
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.360
Have you done any other psychedelics?
1101
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:48.960
Nah, I'm scared.
1102
00:44:49.420 --> 00:44:49.699
Yeah.
1103
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:50.679
I'm terrified.
1104
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:51.460
You heard of ayahuasca?
1105
00:44:51.980 --> 00:44:52.599
I heard of that, yeah.
1106
00:44:52.619 --> 00:44:53.219
Yeah, I've done that.
1107
00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:54.679
How did it make you feel?
1108
00:44:54.780 --> 00:44:56.760
That's intense.
1109
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.079
What happened? What happened to you?
1110
00:44:59.139 --> 00:45:02.289
It's... I don't even know how to... It's so different
1111
00:45:02.309 --> 00:45:04.289
because if you've never done it, it's really hard to
1112
00:45:04.329 --> 00:45:08.150
tell you what it's like. But just imagine like... I
1113
00:45:08.170 --> 00:45:09.869
guess I could relate it to mushrooms for you because
1114
00:45:09.889 --> 00:45:11.690
you have that experience. You know when... Have you ever
1115
00:45:11.710 --> 00:45:14.050
been in a mushroom trip and you're like, you're like, oh,
1116
00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:14.960
this is a little too much?
1117
00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:15.659
Mm-hmm.
1118
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.969
So imagine... Imagine you kind of like, depending on the person,
1119
00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:22.429
because like I've done it a few times now and
1120
00:45:22.650 --> 00:45:24.329
the second time was a lot more calm than the
1121
00:45:24.369 --> 00:45:26.110
first time. I think the first time I was really
1122
00:45:26.170 --> 00:45:27.869
afraid of like what was going to happen. So I
1123
00:45:27.909 --> 00:45:30.030
had this built up tension of like, is this going
1124
00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:31.829
to be too much? And like I hear all these bad,
1125
00:45:31.909 --> 00:45:33.949
crazy things and things happen to people and I'm worried
1126
00:45:33.989 --> 00:45:36.980
about all that. So when it hit me, it was
1127
00:45:37.019 --> 00:45:40.159
like everything was good. Like imagine my high was like this.
1128
00:45:40.219 --> 00:45:42.139
Everything felt like really good. And it was like, damn,
1129
00:45:42.179 --> 00:45:44.440
it's pretty good. And then it's almost like I blinked
1130
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.000
and I was up here. And it was very scary
1131
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:49.980
because I was like, well, this is way too much.
1132
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.000
It was because he didn't feel like this, like, oh,
1133
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.119
it's getting more and then it's getting less. It was like, oh,
1134
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.150
this is pretty good. And then it was like 10,000
1135
00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:00.449
out of like, you know, it was like 100 down here.
1136
00:46:00.510 --> 00:46:03.170
It's like 10,000. I was like, oh, fuck. And my
1137
00:46:03.429 --> 00:46:05.829
my brain was just like going crazy. And I like
1138
00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:07.489
took me a really like I don't even know how
1139
00:46:07.530 --> 00:46:09.650
long because your reference of time is completely gone.
1140
00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:10.570
So it's like mushrooms.
1141
00:46:10.829 --> 00:46:11.110
Yeah.
1142
00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:12.590
And so then I don't know how long I was
1143
00:46:12.610 --> 00:46:14.070
in that moment where I was like just trying to
1144
00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:16.550
calm myself down. But once I kind of did it,
1145
00:46:16.550 --> 00:46:23.849
it It's definitely the most confronting. All the things that
1146
00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:27.110
you've been stressing about, it puts it all really in
1147
00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:30.800
your face. It doesn't really allow you to look around it.
1148
00:46:31.769 --> 00:46:34.929
So you have to kind of work on those, focus
1149
00:46:34.969 --> 00:46:37.250
and think about those things and really go through them
1150
00:46:37.269 --> 00:46:38.809
and go like, well, why am I feeling this way?
1151
00:46:38.849 --> 00:46:40.949
Why do I worry about this? Why is this a problem?
1152
00:46:40.989 --> 00:46:43.320
It's okay. And you have to go through it. And
1153
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.400
it's a little bit tough because sometimes those things can
1154
00:46:46.420 --> 00:46:48.800
be really tough to go through. and you know you
1155
00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:50.880
could you could be really emotional because you're you're like
1156
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.280
forced to deal with things but i think that's why
1157
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:54.239
it's so healing.
1158
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.340
So you cry and shit oh yeah.
1159
00:46:56.860 --> 00:47:00.219
Oh yeah oh yeah bro yeah but like you get
1160
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.570
done and you're like oh fuck i needed that like
1161
00:47:03.590 --> 00:47:04.670
in your perspective did it.
1162
00:47:04.630 --> 00:47:07.090
Change you a little bit yeah in a good way
1163
00:47:07.289 --> 00:47:09.190
yeah yeah definitely man.
1164
00:47:09.210 --> 00:47:11.449
I might fuck with it i might do it yeah
1165
00:47:11.510 --> 00:47:13.690
it's supposed to be scary yeah you know it's not
1166
00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:15.940
it's like those things it's like like everything that's tough
1167
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.519
in our lives, obviously we know the shit that makes
1168
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.840
us better. The shit that when it's tough, like we
1169
00:47:19.860 --> 00:47:21.460
fucking spend time, we get through it, we get.
1170
00:47:21.380 --> 00:47:24.400
Better, we grow. How do we like, like how do
1171
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:24.880
you take it?
1172
00:47:26.860 --> 00:47:29.760
So it's like a plant that they like, like a root,
1173
00:47:29.809 --> 00:47:31.929
a plant that they basically cook down into like a,
1174
00:47:32.070 --> 00:47:34.769
kind of like a viscous, like a shot almost. Like
1175
00:47:34.789 --> 00:47:37.230
you can drink it in different, you know, different types
1176
00:47:37.269 --> 00:47:40.570
of containers, but it's basically like a thicker liquid. And
1177
00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:41.530
it doesn't taste too good.
1178
00:47:42.250 --> 00:47:43.190
That sounds scary.
1179
00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:46.090
But it's like, It's dope, man. You got to do
1180
00:47:46.110 --> 00:47:47.630
it in the right setting. You don't do it with
1181
00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:49.570
like a Taito or a shaman, someone who's actually like
1182
00:47:49.630 --> 00:47:51.530
putting you through it. You're not just like drinking it
1183
00:47:51.570 --> 00:47:54.090
with your boys, chilling, you know, because the whole ceremony
1184
00:47:54.110 --> 00:47:54.730
will be done.
1185
00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:57.369
So what they do when you're tweaking out with the
1186
00:47:57.389 --> 00:47:58.139
shaman doing shit?
1187
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.039
It's okay.
1188
00:48:00.300 --> 00:48:02.539
Did he take it with you? No. Yeah, he did.
1189
00:48:02.900 --> 00:48:03.019
Okay.
1190
00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:04.880
Yeah, they did. So they're kind of like on the
1191
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.559
same page. Obviously, like, because I talked to him prior.
1192
00:48:08.579 --> 00:48:10.199
I'm like, hey, this is where I'm at. So he
1193
00:48:10.219 --> 00:48:12.349
kind of probably had some idea of like how I
1194
00:48:12.389 --> 00:48:15.070
might react. how I've reacted to other things in the past.
1195
00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:17.489
So like they kind of aware, like, you know, I
1196
00:48:17.510 --> 00:48:19.170
guess I, the thing that I remember him saying was like,
1197
00:48:20.030 --> 00:48:22.449
you wanted this. And it was true. Like, this is
1198
00:48:22.489 --> 00:48:23.929
what I was coming to do was to try to
1199
00:48:23.969 --> 00:48:25.489
deal with this, was try to get through those things
1200
00:48:25.530 --> 00:48:28.039
in my life that I've like held on to. So
1201
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.599
you gotta go to do it. Like you could do,
1202
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.480
I did it privately. So I had someone just come
1203
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:33.159
here and do it with me.
1204
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:34.659
You did it at the crib.
1205
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:35.079
Yeah.
1206
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:35.739
Damn.
1207
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:36.059
Yeah.
1208
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.000
So you can just do it privately.
1209
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:38.360
Your vision be fucked up.
1210
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:39.000
Your what?
1211
00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:39.659
Your vision.
1212
00:48:40.940 --> 00:48:42.880
Uh, it does, it does give you visuals, but it's, it's,
1213
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.719
It's not as intense. Mushrooms are a little more intense,
1214
00:48:45.780 --> 00:48:47.820
I would say, visuals. It's more like you close your
1215
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:53.579
eyes and you're like, you're seeing stuff. Like, it's crazy, bro.
1216
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.199
Oh, my God. You'd love it, dude. Yeah, I ate
1217
00:48:56.219 --> 00:48:57.079
mushrooms at night.
1218
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.800
You ate mushrooms at night? That shit keeps you up then.
1219
00:49:00.409 --> 00:49:03.389
Yeah, I was up all night. Literally all night. But
1220
00:49:03.469 --> 00:49:05.130
I was like seeing shit.
1221
00:49:05.969 --> 00:49:07.150
Like recently? Have you done it recently?
1222
00:49:08.429 --> 00:49:10.900
Probably like three months ago. Something like that. Two, three
1223
00:49:10.900 --> 00:49:13.650
months ago. But yeah, I was seeing shit, bro. Like.
1224
00:49:13.650 --> 00:49:16.690
But it's cool, like I'm more comfortable with mushrooms yeah
1225
00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:18.429
so I don't know yeah I might.
1226
00:49:18.309 --> 00:49:19.710
Try that shit I mean if you could do that
1227
00:49:19.750 --> 00:49:21.679
you could do this it's just like knowing that it's
1228
00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:25.019
just different it's completely different but the outcome is like
1229
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.340
it's greater for sure yeah.
1230
00:49:28.260 --> 00:49:30.599
I'll fuck with like the natural shit you know like
1231
00:49:30.659 --> 00:49:33.760
plants and fucking mushrooms and shit I ain't gonna I
1232
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.860
never did like no crazy like chemical drugs yeah no
1233
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.000
I'm not a fan i ain't trying to get fried
1234
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:40.760
out here you know.
1235
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.800
No no no fuck no bro those i mean there's
1236
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.059
so many drugs that are just like i like psychedelics
1237
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.659
i like that like you said the plant medicine this
1238
00:49:46.699 --> 00:49:49.409
kind of stuff is nice but yeah the you know
1239
00:49:49.909 --> 00:49:53.269
cocaine hair all this other shit's insane.
1240
00:49:52.269 --> 00:49:54.130
People get fried like a motherfucker ruin.
1241
00:49:53.989 --> 00:49:55.670
Their life with that shit that's what i'm saying well
1242
00:49:55.690 --> 00:49:56.030
did you.
1243
00:49:55.949 --> 00:50:00.590
Drink yeah i don't drink like that recently i haven't
1244
00:50:00.909 --> 00:50:02.710
taken i have a little drink here and there yeah
1245
00:50:02.769 --> 00:50:04.250
but i kind of got into the wine i'm with
1246
00:50:04.269 --> 00:50:07.619
my grown man shit now I'll be drinking red wine
1247
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:08.760
and shit now. It's cool.
1248
00:50:08.940 --> 00:50:11.320
I don't know why people... Fuck, wine? Okay, I like
1249
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.369
wine sometimes, but I'm 33, and I still don't really like...
1250
00:50:15.389 --> 00:50:16.150
I can't get into it.
1251
00:50:16.190 --> 00:50:17.690
I'm trying to tell you, bro. Next time you go
1252
00:50:17.730 --> 00:50:19.610
out to dinner, get some red wine, just ask for
1253
00:50:19.630 --> 00:50:22.590
the sweetest they got. They're going to bring you some shit.
1254
00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:27.030
Just drink it. You know what I'm saying? You just
1255
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:29.909
feel it. You just feel like you're doing something. It
1256
00:50:29.929 --> 00:50:34.800
feels more classy than liquor. It feels cleaner. And you
1257
00:50:34.900 --> 00:50:35.599
don't get headaches.
1258
00:50:36.699 --> 00:50:38.409
Well, I used to get bad. I mean, when I
1259
00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:41.010
was younger, well, when I drink, I probably drank too
1260
00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.230
much when I was younger. I shouldn't have been drinking it.
1261
00:50:43.230 --> 00:50:45.329
Because I feel like the sulfates in wine will give
1262
00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:45.769
you headaches.
1263
00:50:46.349 --> 00:50:48.829
Yeah, but you drink a couple glasses of some good wine,
1264
00:50:49.469 --> 00:50:52.190
you'd be straight. Wine is low-key better than liquor.
1265
00:50:52.250 --> 00:50:54.070
But you were just in Italy, and I feel like
1266
00:50:54.090 --> 00:50:56.239
the wine there is better because there's no preservatives there.
1267
00:50:56.420 --> 00:50:58.559
So you're probably feeling it out there, like, this is dope.
1268
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.099
No, I drink, but I drink wine even before that.
1269
00:51:01.300 --> 00:51:01.880
Oh, out here?
1270
00:51:01.900 --> 00:51:04.820
Yeah, I've been drinking wine. So, well, I just started, like,
1271
00:51:05.550 --> 00:51:08.260
few months ago type shit, but it's like I fuck
1272
00:51:08.300 --> 00:51:10.900
with it better than liquor. It just feels better.
1273
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.780
So your girl makes music too, right? Would you guys
1274
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:16.840
ever make music together?
1275
00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:21.619
Yeah, we have before. But she ain't got no solo
1276
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:25.610
music out. So once her solo music come out, you know,
1277
00:51:26.489 --> 00:51:27.769
probably make some shit together.
1278
00:51:28.170 --> 00:51:29.449
Is she working on that kind of stuff too?
1279
00:51:29.889 --> 00:51:32.630
Yeah, she got some fire ass music. I think she
1280
00:51:32.650 --> 00:51:36.360
gonna be One of the biggest artists in the world. Really?
1281
00:51:36.570 --> 00:51:37.159
For sure, 100%. 100%.
1282
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:37.650
Damn.
1283
00:51:38.409 --> 00:51:40.889
On some Adele shit.
1284
00:51:41.309 --> 00:51:41.769
Really?
1285
00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:42.570
That's massive.
1286
00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:45.349
I ain't going to lie. I'm not even being biased.
1287
00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:48.030
I tell her this all the time. Your shit is
1288
00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:52.349
next level. Because she can really sing. I can harmonize
1289
00:51:52.409 --> 00:51:54.349
and shit. You throw a little auto-tune on me and shit.
1290
00:51:54.369 --> 00:51:55.010
You know what I'm saying?
1291
00:51:55.289 --> 00:51:55.550
Yeah, yeah.
1292
00:51:55.610 --> 00:51:57.739
I can get a gold record. I can do my shit.
1293
00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:59.860
She can sing acapella?
1294
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:00.659
Yeah.
1295
00:52:00.780 --> 00:52:02.559
She can sing. Sing, sing.
1296
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:02.940
Damn.
1297
00:52:03.570 --> 00:52:04.110
It's crazy.
1298
00:52:05.510 --> 00:52:08.780
No, her shit is going to be next level. I'm excited.
1299
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.199
Yeah, that's cool. That's really cool. And it seems like
1300
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.900
once you conquer this music stuff more, you probably want
1301
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.619
to get into acting, like you were saying earlier.
1302
00:52:16.820 --> 00:52:17.619
Yeah.
1303
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:18.840
What roles would you do?
1304
00:52:19.420 --> 00:52:21.820
I want to do a horror movie so bad. That's
1305
00:52:21.860 --> 00:52:24.179
like my bucket list.
1306
00:52:24.300 --> 00:52:24.820
Why?
1307
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.199
I don't know. I want to be in like a
1308
00:52:27.260 --> 00:52:29.000
Jordan Peele horror film.
1309
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:30.099
Like Nobbers?
1310
00:52:30.139 --> 00:52:33.000
Crazy. Yeah, like some crazy shit like that. I know
1311
00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:35.320
how I kill it too. I know it'd be a
1312
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.400
big deal because everybody that knows of me or know
1313
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.239
me will be like, damn, this motherfucker really acting this bitch.
1314
00:52:41.260 --> 00:52:43.440
You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of like
1315
00:52:43.500 --> 00:52:44.920
what I want to do. I want to get into
1316
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.059
a horror film, maybe some comedy or something. I don't know.
1317
00:52:49.139 --> 00:52:49.340
Yeah.
1318
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:51.519
I've always liked to ask people this who like have,
1319
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.360
have like really great success and who've done things and
1320
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.099
you've done a lot of things like that. You just like,
1321
00:52:56.139 --> 00:52:58.039
you wanted to do them and you did them and
1322
00:52:58.059 --> 00:53:00.989
you just keep going. Did you, before you did all
1323
00:53:01.010 --> 00:53:03.920
of this stuff, Did you believe, like, when you were
1324
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.019
younger before you had any, or you were even close
1325
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.239
to doing this, that, like, there was more for you? Like,
1326
00:53:08.260 --> 00:53:09.059
did you have that sense?
1327
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:10.420
What do you mean?
1328
00:53:10.500 --> 00:53:13.719
Like, did you believe that, I don't know, like, I
1329
00:53:13.739 --> 00:53:16.150
remember being younger and thinking, like, damn, I don't want to, like,
1330
00:53:16.829 --> 00:53:19.269
do normal shit. Like, I want to do something great.
1331
00:53:19.309 --> 00:53:21.349
I want to try to do something different. Like, did
1332
00:53:21.369 --> 00:53:22.530
you have that sense of yourself?
1333
00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:26.530
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like, when I was younger, I
1334
00:53:27.610 --> 00:53:30.889
used to have a job. A lot of people haven't worked.
1335
00:53:31.019 --> 00:53:31.739
You worked a job before?
1336
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:32.820
Yeah, I have.
1337
00:53:33.019 --> 00:53:36.969
Yeah, yeah. So I used to work TJ Maxx, Kroger's,
1338
00:53:37.929 --> 00:53:40.670
worked those jobs. And just working there, it's just like,
1339
00:53:40.730 --> 00:53:43.530
I know this ain't it. I know this can't be like.
1340
00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:45.369
Yeah, I was working at Quiznos.
1341
00:53:45.469 --> 00:53:48.630
Yeah, bro. Like, I know I ain't finna be putting
1342
00:53:48.670 --> 00:53:51.880
these sensors on these clothes for the rest of my life.
1343
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.699
You know? And it's like, I'm not finna be in
1344
00:53:53.739 --> 00:53:55.840
no cash year all my life. And I just feel like,
1345
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.500
I don't know. I feel like nine to fives is
1346
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.349
the easy way out in a way. Cause it takes
1347
00:54:02.389 --> 00:54:04.530
a lot to get to this point that I'm at,
1348
00:54:04.570 --> 00:54:07.019
that you at, you know, it takes a lot of creativity.
1349
00:54:07.659 --> 00:54:09.360
You know, you really own boss type shit.
1350
00:54:09.539 --> 00:54:09.739
Yeah.
1351
00:54:09.900 --> 00:54:11.619
So it's like, you really got to switch your mindset
1352
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:13.739
versus a nine to five and you got it all
1353
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.900
set there for you. All right. Pull up this time,
1354
00:54:15.940 --> 00:54:16.840
do this and that.
1355
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:17.239
Yeah.
1356
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.800
And it's like, you know, you, you're not really thinking
1357
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.260
for yourself for real. You just put, you just showing
1358
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.360
up and doing what you told to do, which is,
1359
00:54:24.510 --> 00:54:29.469
I feel like it's easier than creating your own, path
1360
00:54:29.510 --> 00:54:30.710
and your own wave and shit.
1361
00:54:30.949 --> 00:54:31.360
Of course.
1362
00:54:32.139 --> 00:54:35.000
I don't know. Just working at those jobs, I just
1363
00:54:35.019 --> 00:54:38.440
knew that wasn't it. I just knew I wanted to
1364
00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:40.639
do more. Even when I went to college, before I
1365
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.559
got to college, I knew I wasn't going to finish.
1366
00:54:44.610 --> 00:54:48.010
I went to college just because I wanted to go
1367
00:54:48.050 --> 00:54:50.230
to college and experience it. My homies was going to
1368
00:54:50.269 --> 00:54:52.630
college and shit. I'm like, let me go freshman year,
1369
00:54:52.670 --> 00:54:54.590
which I don't regret because that's really how I blew
1370
00:54:54.690 --> 00:54:58.809
up in college. It's like, I just wanted to gain
1371
00:54:58.849 --> 00:55:01.539
those social skills. And then, but in the back of
1372
00:55:01.579 --> 00:55:03.059
my head, I knew I wasn't going to stay there.
1373
00:55:03.860 --> 00:55:05.039
Like, what did you think you were going to do
1374
00:55:05.099 --> 00:55:05.679
before at all?
1375
00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:09.960
I just knew like, so my first YouTube check was
1376
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.659
$ 200 when I was working at TJ Maxx. Soon as
1377
00:55:12.699 --> 00:55:13.530
I got that, I quit.
1378
00:55:14.429 --> 00:55:15.869
You're like, this is it. I made it.
1379
00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:19.570
Cause I'm like, if I can make $ 200 doing a
1380
00:55:19.630 --> 00:55:22.519
fucking video, that means I can make 2000. Yeah. If
1381
00:55:22.539 --> 00:55:24.360
I can make $ 2, 000, that means I can make $ 20, 000.
1382
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.380
If I make $ 20, 000, I can make $ 200, 000. You know
1383
00:55:26.420 --> 00:55:28.699
what I'm saying? So I'm just thinking like that. I'm like,
1384
00:55:29.300 --> 00:55:31.599
if I really quit this shit that I'm working eight
1385
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.920
hours at and put all my time into this video shit,
1386
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:36.539
I know I can take this to the next level.
1387
00:55:37.099 --> 00:55:39.699
So I went from $ 200 to $ 700 in my next check,
1388
00:55:40.230 --> 00:55:41.750
and it just went up from there. So I'm in
1389
00:55:41.809 --> 00:55:46.369
college making $ 700 freshman year, a month, then it got
1390
00:55:46.389 --> 00:55:49.489
to $ 1, 000. That's a lot in college. I ain't gonna lie.
1391
00:55:50.090 --> 00:55:53.570
It sounds very little now, but In college where your
1392
00:55:53.610 --> 00:55:56.489
shit really paid for, obviously you're taking out loans and shit,
1393
00:55:56.510 --> 00:56:00.590
but that's $ 1, 000 I'm just putting in my pocket. So
1394
00:56:00.630 --> 00:56:03.250
it's like, I don't know. It got to a point
1395
00:56:03.289 --> 00:56:06.590
where I don't know how to explain it for real.
1396
00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:08.739
So my question to you about this is, why do
1397
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.800
you think people have so much fear around like foregoing
1398
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.780
the traditional like nine to five or foregoing like, you know,
1399
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.309
that job that's stable to try something that like, probably
1400
00:56:19.329 --> 00:56:21.210
a lot of them really want to do because that's
1401
00:56:21.230 --> 00:56:22.670
the thing a lot of people watch this content a
1402
00:56:22.670 --> 00:56:24.550
lot of people watch these these podcasts and just stuff
1403
00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:26.739
in general and they a lot of people like i
1404
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.340
think i don't know if it's like 80 percent of
1405
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.619
people now want to be like a social creator like
1406
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.559
they want to be on the internet somehow but why
1407
00:56:32.579 --> 00:56:34.019
do you think people are so afraid to take that
1408
00:56:34.059 --> 00:56:36.199
leap and why were you not afraid like for you
1409
00:56:36.219 --> 00:56:38.340
to go two hundred dollars i'm good i'm if i
1410
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.159
can do 200 i can make this like i understand
1411
00:56:40.179 --> 00:56:42.519
what you're saying but to take the leap though away
1412
00:56:42.579 --> 00:56:45.360
from something that's like solid to be like fuck it
1413
00:56:45.380 --> 00:56:48.039
i'm just gonna try it like Why do you think
1414
00:56:48.059 --> 00:56:50.159
it's hard for people to get that mentality? Because more
1415
00:56:50.179 --> 00:56:51.619
people go, well, this is safe.
1416
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.980
Yeah, people too safe. That's what I feel like. I
1417
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:58.469
feel like people that say, oh, this is solid, they
1418
00:56:58.510 --> 00:57:01.989
playing it too safe. And you feel like, oh, I
1419
00:57:02.030 --> 00:57:03.769
got to make sure I can pay my bills and
1420
00:57:03.809 --> 00:57:06.050
I can do this and that. You got motherfuckers that
1421
00:57:06.889 --> 00:57:11.800
spend every dollar that they got to fucking follow a dream.
1422
00:57:11.860 --> 00:57:13.860
You know what I mean? And then it's a hit
1423
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.519
or miss. If you hit, you good type shit. So
1424
00:57:16.539 --> 00:57:19.179
it's like, I feel like just people is not risky enough.
1425
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.320
I was very risky. Like I'm like, okay, I'm going
1426
00:57:23.340 --> 00:57:24.519
to quit this, this job.
1427
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:25.619
Why do you think you were risky?
1428
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:29.460
I just wanted more. Like, I just, I just didn't
1429
00:57:29.500 --> 00:57:32.739
want to live like that. Like Pontiac, Michigan is like,
1430
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.820
we don't even have a mall. Like it's, it's a
1431
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.679
very small city and it's like, you know, it's the hood.
1432
00:57:38.940 --> 00:57:42.699
You feel me? It's like, it's, it ain't nowhere that
1433
00:57:42.739 --> 00:57:44.909
you really want to be. And then when I was younger,
1434
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.099
In 2014, my brother passed. So it's like that kind
1435
00:57:49.139 --> 00:57:52.300
of really put shit in perspective for me. I'm like, damn,
1436
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.429
like I can't fucking, can't live like this. You know
1437
00:57:55.449 --> 00:57:56.400
what I mean? I'm not going to.
1438
00:57:56.869 --> 00:57:57.449
How did he pass?
1439
00:57:58.590 --> 00:57:58.869
You know?
1440
00:57:59.030 --> 00:57:59.230
Yeah.
1441
00:57:59.530 --> 00:58:01.969
Yeah. So it's like, it is what it is.
1442
00:58:03.010 --> 00:58:05.449
So that made you feel like I got to figure
1443
00:58:05.469 --> 00:58:05.829
this out?
1444
00:58:06.349 --> 00:58:09.219
Yeah. Yeah. That kind of really put some fire into me.
1445
00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:11.440
Like that really put me in position to really start
1446
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:16.570
going up. Because it was like, I'm like, man. this
1447
00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:18.190
could be me, you know what I mean? Like if
1448
00:58:18.289 --> 00:58:20.349
I fuck around and just stay here and you know
1449
00:58:20.369 --> 00:58:21.989
what I'm saying, I could fuck around and just get
1450
00:58:22.050 --> 00:58:24.469
stuck in this city. There's a lot of motherfuckers that
1451
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:26.500
I grew up with, went to high school with, they
1452
00:58:26.539 --> 00:58:29.920
still doing the same shit. It's like, I don't know
1453
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:30.699
how niggas do it.
1454
00:58:30.780 --> 00:58:32.920
It's just- That's the question, right? That's the thing I'm
1455
00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:35.880
trying to figure out. And obviously to inspire people, if
1456
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.340
they see this, to think that they can do it
1457
00:58:37.380 --> 00:58:39.780
as well. Why do you think there are certain people
1458
00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:43.460
who just say, because even your circumstances and saying, seeing
1459
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.519
and experiencing what you experienced and being like, I don't
1460
00:58:45.539 --> 00:58:46.920
want this to be my life. I want to move
1461
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.449
away from this. And you were in it, but now
1462
00:58:49.469 --> 00:58:52.869
you're not. Completely different circumstances because you made that decision.
1463
00:58:53.250 --> 00:58:55.530
Why do you think it's hard for people to just
1464
00:58:55.570 --> 00:58:56.909
understand that they can do it too?
1465
00:58:56.929 --> 00:58:59.889
I don't know, man. I just feel like people are
1466
00:58:59.909 --> 00:59:02.489
just not risky enough. People don't believe in themselves. I
1467
00:59:02.530 --> 00:59:05.889
feel like it starts with you believing in yourself. It
1468
00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:08.289
starts with you really saying, okay, I can do this shit.
1469
00:59:08.349 --> 00:59:09.409
I can do the impossible.
1470
00:59:09.889 --> 00:59:09.969
Yeah.
1471
00:59:10.010 --> 00:59:12.780
Know what I mean so it's like I don't know
1472
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.159
it's a whole it's a mental thing where you really
1473
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.480
gotta just sit down and be like okay I wanna
1474
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:20.760
I wanna make it to the millions you know what
1475
00:59:20.780 --> 00:59:21.400
I mean I feel like.
1476
00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:23.460
There's just some people that just aren't different.
1477
00:59:23.420 --> 00:59:26.820
Yeah they just two people too safe that's what it
1478
00:59:26.940 --> 00:59:29.670
is that's what it is like Motherfuckers wait for you
1479
00:59:29.710 --> 00:59:31.219
to do it, and then they want to do it.
1480
00:59:31.219 --> 00:59:32.489
They don't want to be the first to do it.
1481
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:35.699
I was the first to do it, especially from my city,
1482
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:38.900
from my whole family. I was the first to do it.
1483
00:59:38.940 --> 00:59:42.809
And then after I did it, my family started doing it.
1484
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.000
So it's like that's how I did it. I feel
1485
00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:48.480
like when you're the first to do something, you get
1486
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.599
the best of it type shit.
1487
00:59:51.739 --> 00:59:52.059
I see.
1488
00:59:52.619 --> 00:59:52.880
Yeah.
1489
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:53.579
That makes sense.
1490
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.360
So I'm in a good position right now because I
1491
00:59:56.409 --> 00:59:57.050
started this shit.
1492
00:59:58.219 --> 01:00:01.630
And you love it more than even when you started it? Like,
1493
01:00:01.650 --> 01:00:03.230
you still have the same passion for, like, all this
1494
01:00:03.269 --> 01:00:05.630
content creation, music, everything? Or has it.
1495
01:00:05.630 --> 01:00:08.449
Changed at all? My passion really lies with music. I'm
1496
01:00:08.489 --> 01:00:10.710
not going to lie. Like, that's really what my real
1497
01:00:10.789 --> 01:00:15.480
passion is. But I love doing YouTube for the person
1498
01:00:15.500 --> 01:00:17.340
that's watching right now. They want to do it, too.
1499
01:00:17.619 --> 01:00:20.940
You know what I'm saying? They want to get inspired. Like,
1500
01:00:20.980 --> 01:00:24.380
I do a lot of inspirational, motivational talk in between
1501
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.940
my vlogs and shit. And it's a lot of people
1502
01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:28.449
that come up to me and be like, bro, you
1503
01:00:28.469 --> 01:00:31.530
changed my life, bro. Like, man, I just made a
1504
01:00:31.550 --> 01:00:33.889
million dollars, bro. I made my first million dollars now.
1505
01:00:33.929 --> 01:00:35.929
You know what I'm saying? Like, people that really grow
1506
01:00:36.010 --> 01:00:39.010
up watching me and shit. And that's what I really, like,
1507
01:00:39.230 --> 01:00:41.440
enjoy from it at this point. Like, you know, the
1508
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:45.500
money great, obviously. But it's like, that's where I really,
1509
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.559
you know what I'm saying? That's where the real enjoyment
1510
01:00:48.579 --> 01:00:49.000
come from.
1511
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:53.219
Yeah, I get it. A couple more things before you go.
1512
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:57.340
But what's with this, like, Voice. Is it fake? It's
1513
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:57.900
a fake voice.
1514
01:00:58.500 --> 01:00:58.840
Nah.
1515
01:00:59.059 --> 01:01:01.000
Nah, it ain't fake.
1516
01:01:01.019 --> 01:01:03.599
But it's like clearly a fake voice.
1517
01:01:03.619 --> 01:01:03.920
Nah.
1518
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.440
You gotta tell the truth, bro. It's not your real voice.
1519
01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:09.500
It is, though. That's the crazy part. Yeah, that's my
1520
01:01:09.539 --> 01:01:09.780
real voice.
1521
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:11.949
It's good voice control. It's actually really impressive.
1522
01:01:12.309 --> 01:01:14.670
Yeah, a lot of people think it's like edits and shit,
1523
01:01:14.710 --> 01:01:15.309
but it's real.
1524
01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:16.130
You feel me?
1525
01:01:16.150 --> 01:01:19.050
So it's like, I don't know. I just get insecure
1526
01:01:19.090 --> 01:01:21.510
about the shit. Yeah. I don't really like talking about
1527
01:01:21.550 --> 01:01:21.969
it too much.
1528
01:01:22.050 --> 01:01:22.309
Okay.
1529
01:01:22.590 --> 01:01:24.510
So you use the regular voice just because it's more like.
1530
01:01:24.739 --> 01:01:25.320
It's more like.
1531
01:01:25.650 --> 01:01:25.869
Yeah.
1532
01:01:25.889 --> 01:01:28.889
It's like more applicable. How you say it? Applicable.
1533
01:01:29.130 --> 01:01:29.710
Yeah.
1534
01:01:29.750 --> 01:01:32.699
More relatable. Yeah, it's like, it's cool. I make music
1535
01:01:32.739 --> 01:01:34.820
in his voice, but like, if I was to like.
1536
01:01:35.460 --> 01:01:39.179
Really use this voice, motherfuckers would be like, that don't
1537
01:01:39.219 --> 01:01:39.940
even match him.
1538
01:01:40.219 --> 01:01:40.659
You feel me?
1539
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:43.289
So I don't really like using it for real. I
1540
01:01:43.329 --> 01:01:46.539
just say, yeah, I keep that shit tucked. I don't
1541
01:01:46.579 --> 01:01:48.840
really like showing people, but I fuck with you, so
1542
01:01:48.900 --> 01:01:49.260
I'm going.
1543
01:01:49.139 --> 01:01:52.780
To use it. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, man. Yo,
1544
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.260
did you get any audience questions from Natalie?
1545
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:55.400
Oh, nice.
1546
01:01:55.539 --> 01:01:59.420
You sent them to me? All right, so at the
1547
01:01:59.460 --> 01:02:04.099
end of every episode, we got questions from the viewers.
1548
01:02:04.139 --> 01:02:07.130
So we're going to do three real quick. And if
1549
01:02:07.139 --> 01:02:08.760
you guys want to send your questions, you can send
1550
01:02:08.780 --> 01:02:11.949
them at askrowtalk at gmail.com. We appreciate the love. So
1551
01:02:12.630 --> 01:02:14.710
this guy said, I'm 22, and I've been in a
1552
01:02:14.730 --> 01:02:18.760
relationship for nine months. And my girlfriend is great and amazing,
1553
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.780
but I feel like something's missing. She's super loyal. My
1554
01:02:22.820 --> 01:02:25.460
family loves her. She loves working out and eating healthy.
1555
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:28.550
Even with all that, I still feel empty and don't
1556
01:02:28.570 --> 01:02:30.230
know whether I should stick it out and try to
1557
01:02:30.289 --> 01:02:32.869
work things out or to move on. I feel bad
1558
01:02:32.889 --> 01:02:35.389
because she is the sweetest person you'll ever meet and
1559
01:02:35.449 --> 01:02:41.610
hasn't done anything wrong. That's dismal. That's so dismal, bro.
1560
01:02:43.929 --> 01:02:47.179
I mean, you're 22. It honestly sounds like you're not
1561
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.159
that interested. That's what that sounds like.
1562
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.659
Nah, I think he... I think he on some shit
1563
01:02:53.699 --> 01:02:55.760
where he want to focus on himself.
1564
01:02:57.179 --> 01:02:57.670
Yeah, I mean.
1565
01:02:57.849 --> 01:02:59.809
That's what I think the underlying problem is.
1566
01:03:00.269 --> 01:03:01.050
Based on what he's saying?
1567
01:03:01.349 --> 01:03:03.230
Yeah, I feel like he probably not in the position
1568
01:03:03.269 --> 01:03:05.070
he is where he want to be in life.
1569
01:03:05.130 --> 01:03:05.929
Yeah, he 22.
1570
01:03:05.929 --> 01:03:09.250
Yeah, he feel like he finna fuck around, get married
1571
01:03:09.289 --> 01:03:10.670
type shit, and he ain't ready for that.
1572
01:03:11.190 --> 01:03:12.650
I mean, I don't really know. It didn't really... There's
1573
01:03:12.670 --> 01:03:14.269
not really a question here. It's like he was just
1574
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:17.579
kind of saying... There was no question mark. It was
1575
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.579
just kind of like, this is what's happening. I mean,
1576
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:21.639
at the end of the day, man, you got to
1577
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.300
follow your heart. Like, if you feel like it's not
1578
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:27.860
for you or it's not going to work now, then, bro,
1579
01:03:27.900 --> 01:03:30.039
I mean, move on. Maybe if you could revisit it later,
1580
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:33.199
revisit it later. But sometimes giving things time to, like,
1581
01:03:33.889 --> 01:03:36.489
to cook for yourself can make more sense if you're
1582
01:03:36.510 --> 01:03:38.630
going to come back into a relationship. But, I mean,
1583
01:03:38.690 --> 01:03:39.510
at 22, it's hard to.
1584
01:03:39.849 --> 01:03:40.869
That's very young, though.
1585
01:03:40.889 --> 01:03:41.090
Yeah.
1586
01:03:41.769 --> 01:03:42.230
Super young.
1587
01:03:42.630 --> 01:03:42.889
Yeah.
1588
01:03:43.409 --> 01:03:44.369
Do what you want to do, man.
1589
01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:45.510
Yeah.
1590
01:03:45.889 --> 01:03:46.530
Okay, so I got another one.
1591
01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:48.269
All right.
1592
01:03:48.309 --> 01:03:49.829
Hey, Brad and listener.
1593
01:03:50.590 --> 01:03:50.949
Listener.
1594
01:03:52.449 --> 01:03:54.489
Long time pod listener. Huge supporter of the brand. Keep
1595
01:03:54.530 --> 01:03:57.139
it up. My question is pretty basic, but it seems complicated.
1596
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.719
I'll be 22 soon and recently, 22 year olds, and
1597
01:04:00.739 --> 01:04:02.280
recently went out to a club and met a girl.
1598
01:04:02.340 --> 01:04:05.659
This is getting good. Okay. Not the best place to
1599
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:07.260
meet a girl. Before I read the rest of this,
1600
01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:10.380
I'll say that first off. Our friends kind of put
1601
01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:13.219
us together and we did end up hooking up that night. Okay.
1602
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:18.550
We exchanged socials. and we've been talking very lightly ever since. However,
1603
01:04:18.590 --> 01:04:21.409
she lives a few hours away from me during the
1604
01:04:21.469 --> 01:04:24.489
college semester, but lives fairly close to me when she's
1605
01:04:24.530 --> 01:04:26.769
back home. My question is, how do I keep a
1606
01:04:26.809 --> 01:04:30.030
conversation going with her even though there isn't too much
1607
01:04:30.090 --> 01:04:32.590
to talk about? I don't want to be overbearing with
1608
01:04:32.650 --> 01:04:36.599
questions to her, but I also want to keep her invested,
1609
01:04:37.099 --> 01:04:39.940
and I can't tell if she is yet. Neither do
1610
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.429
I want to ask questions the wrong one and be
1611
01:04:45.469 --> 01:04:47.469
her dry. What the fuck? Neither do I want to
1612
01:04:47.570 --> 01:04:51.389
ask the wrong one and her be dry. Oh, he's
1613
01:04:51.409 --> 01:04:52.829
talking about questions. He don't want her to be dry.
1614
01:04:53.329 --> 01:04:56.179
So this guy's just asking for game right now. So
1615
01:04:56.219 --> 01:04:58.380
he's 22. He met a girl at the club. They
1616
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.239
hooked up that night and he's trying to figure out
1617
01:05:00.260 --> 01:05:02.579
how to keep her engaged. Like with him as far
1618
01:05:02.619 --> 01:05:05.320
as like, and she lives two hours away.
1619
01:05:05.860 --> 01:05:06.579
She in college?
1620
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:09.110
Yeah, they must be. They're probably around the same age,
1621
01:05:09.179 --> 01:05:09.510
I'd say.
1622
01:05:09.619 --> 01:05:13.469
So she's in college and he isn't or what?
1623
01:05:13.989 --> 01:05:14.849
I think he is as well.
1624
01:05:15.369 --> 01:05:16.630
But they don't go to the same college.
1625
01:05:16.650 --> 01:05:17.730
Yes, they go somewhere else, yeah.
1626
01:05:18.230 --> 01:05:19.829
Yeah, she probably talking to somebody else.
1627
01:05:20.170 --> 01:05:22.570
I mean, let's keep it real. Like, let's just keep
1628
01:05:22.650 --> 01:05:22.849
it real.
1629
01:05:22.869 --> 01:05:25.429
Yeah, nah, she in college, she getting hit. She talking
1630
01:05:25.449 --> 01:05:28.190
to somebody else for sure, man. I wouldn't even... If
1631
01:05:28.230 --> 01:05:30.969
a girl wants you, bro, they gonna be on you
1632
01:05:31.190 --> 01:05:33.010
type shit. They should be the one trying to figure
1633
01:05:33.030 --> 01:05:34.219
out the conversation, not you.
1634
01:05:34.909 --> 01:05:35.179
Yeah.
1635
01:05:35.420 --> 01:05:37.960
So it's like, I would say, bro, you.
1636
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:39.760
You think that in all cases?
1637
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:45.429
I think If as a man, if you did, especially
1638
01:05:45.469 --> 01:05:48.769
if he already hit him, it's like if you already
1639
01:05:48.809 --> 01:05:51.510
hit him and she ain't on you, you ain't do enough.
1640
01:05:51.909 --> 01:05:53.250
You know what I mean? You ain't do a good
1641
01:05:53.269 --> 01:05:56.250
enough job. So it's like she probably get hit by
1642
01:05:56.289 --> 01:05:57.429
somebody else at this point.
1643
01:05:57.849 --> 01:05:58.210
Yeah.
1644
01:05:58.230 --> 01:06:01.340
Because you ain't you weren't memorable enough. So if I
1645
01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:03.440
was him, I just. Say, fuck it.
1646
01:06:03.659 --> 01:06:04.400
Charge to the game.
1647
01:06:04.699 --> 01:06:05.719
Go back to the club.
1648
01:06:06.630 --> 01:06:06.889
Yeah.
1649
01:06:07.250 --> 01:06:10.269
Also, meeting girls at the club is not the best idea.
1650
01:06:10.289 --> 01:06:11.750
That's what I'm saying. Especially you meet her at the
1651
01:06:11.809 --> 01:06:14.210
club and hit them. It's like, she done did that before.
1652
01:06:14.349 --> 01:06:16.730
Yeah, for sure. Like, do you think, like, I've always
1653
01:06:16.769 --> 01:06:18.420
wondered this. Like, I mean, I kind of know the answer.
1654
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.000
I want your perspective, though. But do you think people
1655
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.199
go to the club anything other than trying to, like, fuck? Like,
1656
01:06:24.219 --> 01:06:25.760
no one's going to the club trying to, like, create
1657
01:06:25.780 --> 01:06:26.599
a good relationship.
1658
01:06:26.619 --> 01:06:30.949
That's, I mean, I don't know. Because I feel like.
1659
01:06:31.260 --> 01:06:32.820
Like, can you meet a good girl at the club?
1660
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:33.469
I don't think so.
1661
01:06:33.469 --> 01:06:36.119
You can't. I think you can, especially if, like, she
1662
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.460
with all her girlfriends. You never know. They probably just
1663
01:06:38.500 --> 01:06:40.579
dragged her out. And you know what I'm saying? She
1664
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.840
probably don't go out that much. Now, if it's a
1665
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.139
reoccurring female that you see every weekend and she in
1666
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:48.840
the club, then obviously she doing something in that motherfucker.
1667
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:49.260
Yeah.
1668
01:06:49.500 --> 01:06:51.719
But it's like, I don't know. It's a lot of
1669
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.619
girls that go to the club to really just vibe
1670
01:06:54.659 --> 01:06:56.139
with their homegirls type shit.
1671
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:57.340
You actually believe that?
1672
01:06:57.739 --> 01:06:58.679
Yeah, I believe it.
1673
01:06:59.219 --> 01:06:59.289
No.
1674
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.860
Or they got boyfriends, right? They go to the club
1675
01:07:02.900 --> 01:07:06.039
to vibe with their girls, they get drunk, and then
1676
01:07:06.059 --> 01:07:11.670
they go home to their boyfriend. Damn. That's how I think.
1677
01:07:11.769 --> 01:07:13.750
I don't think every girl go to the club to
1678
01:07:13.769 --> 01:07:17.449
get hit. I don't think so. Not in 2023. It's
1679
01:07:17.469 --> 01:07:18.369
too much shit.
1680
01:07:18.530 --> 01:07:21.349
I feel like it's more so in 2023. You think so? Yeah.
1681
01:07:21.530 --> 01:07:23.920
I don't know. That's like, I don't know. It depends
1682
01:07:24.019 --> 01:07:27.119
on the caliber of female. You feel me?
1683
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:28.380
Yeah.
1684
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:29.880
What type of female are we talking about?
1685
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:31.179
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
1686
01:07:31.260 --> 01:07:35.079
Yeah, we talking about, you know, different calibers to this shit.
1687
01:07:35.219 --> 01:07:38.030
Yeah, okay. That's fair. One more, one more question. It says,
1688
01:07:38.090 --> 01:07:40.210
I really need help. Long story short, I'm in love
1689
01:07:40.230 --> 01:07:46.389
with my friend, parentheses, female. Okay. Okay. I've been going
1690
01:07:46.469 --> 01:07:49.369
to co-op school with her. I've been going to co-op
1691
01:07:49.389 --> 01:07:51.329
school for the past three years and I don't think
1692
01:07:51.369 --> 01:07:52.699
she has, what is co-op school?
1693
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:54.030
I don't know.
1694
01:07:54.050 --> 01:07:55.199
I've been going to co-op school for the past few
1695
01:07:55.219 --> 01:07:57.530
years and I don't think she has any idea. We've
1696
01:07:57.550 --> 01:08:00.230
been sitting together ever since we met, and we've only been...
1697
01:08:00.730 --> 01:08:04.309
How old is this motherfucker? Sitting together? Ever since we met,
1698
01:08:04.730 --> 01:08:06.989
and we've only been taking classes together so we could
1699
01:08:07.110 --> 01:08:10.449
be together. But around last year, right before I was
1700
01:08:10.510 --> 01:08:13.230
going to ask her to junior prom... Oh, she's young.
1701
01:08:14.010 --> 01:08:17.470
She got a boyfriend, and they have been unhappily together
1702
01:08:17.550 --> 01:08:22.270
ever since. Yo, this is funny. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm
1703
01:08:22.609 --> 01:08:24.090
not trying to laugh at this. It's just funny the
1704
01:08:24.109 --> 01:08:26.329
way he wrote this. She always tells me about how
1705
01:08:26.350 --> 01:08:28.250
much she hates him and hates the thought of them
1706
01:08:28.289 --> 01:08:31.510
being together, but still hasn't broken up with him. She
1707
01:08:31.590 --> 01:08:34.590
often voices about how much it revolts her at the
1708
01:08:34.649 --> 01:08:37.550
thought of them having a relationship beyond boyfriend and girlfriend.
1709
01:08:38.789 --> 01:08:40.229
And I still have feelings for her, but I don't
1710
01:08:40.260 --> 01:08:43.779
know what to do. Bro, what? This guy tripped me
1711
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:44.539
out with this question.
1712
01:08:44.619 --> 01:08:45.760
Yeah.
1713
01:08:46.979 --> 01:08:49.359
Leave her? She's with some dude. What do you mean?
1714
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:51.079
She got a boyfriend. I don't even know how to
1715
01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:54.060
answer that question. He wants this girl, obviously, and she
1716
01:08:54.100 --> 01:08:56.729
got a boyfriend who's saying, like, She's not fucking with him,
1717
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:57.819
but she's clearly still with him.
1718
01:08:58.340 --> 01:09:01.920
He got a chance though. if a girl coming if
1719
01:09:01.979 --> 01:09:05.899
a girl really if a girl is telling you about
1720
01:09:05.979 --> 01:09:08.960
her issues and her relationship that means she low-key.
1721
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:12.800
Wants you yeah that's that's actually true.
1722
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:15.619
Yeah because in reality bro like it ain't no such
1723
01:09:15.659 --> 01:09:20.289
thing as like male best friends like Yeah. As a man,
1724
01:09:20.369 --> 01:09:22.229
it's like, you know what I'm saying? You want to,
1725
01:09:22.750 --> 01:09:25.770
you're attracted to females, so it's kind of like, you
1726
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:28.920
know what I mean? Even though y'all friends, like, it's really.
1727
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.239
No, male best friends is bullshit. That doesn't exist.
1728
01:09:31.260 --> 01:09:33.359
You're just holding back temptation. That's all it is.
1729
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.319
Yeah, or like, you didn't get what you thought, so
1730
01:09:35.340 --> 01:09:36.300
you're sticking around.
1731
01:09:36.659 --> 01:09:39.439
Yeah, and she feels the same way. So it's like,
1732
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:44.020
somewhere in her heart, somewhere in her soul, she likes
1733
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:44.460
him too.
1734
01:09:44.979 --> 01:09:45.199
Yeah.
1735
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.539
He just got to be a man and make the
1736
01:09:47.579 --> 01:09:48.000
first move.
1737
01:09:48.829 --> 01:09:49.069
Yeah.
1738
01:09:49.609 --> 01:09:50.369
That's what it sounds like.
1739
01:09:50.649 --> 01:09:51.350
Yeah. Yeah.
1740
01:09:51.829 --> 01:09:52.510
That's some good advice.
1741
01:09:52.930 --> 01:09:53.770
For sure.
1742
01:09:53.810 --> 01:09:54.880
That's very real, for sure.
1743
01:09:54.899 --> 01:09:55.310
Yeah, dude.
1744
01:09:55.409 --> 01:09:57.979
I mean, just be like... I don't know. I guess
1745
01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.399
I would tell her, like, yo, fuck this dude. And
1746
01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:02.119
if she says fuck him and goes with you, then
1747
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:02.819
there you go.
1748
01:10:02.859 --> 01:10:03.239
It's game.
1749
01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:04.739
Wasn't meant for him.
1750
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.890
Right. That's it. I got one more question before we
1751
01:10:07.899 --> 01:10:08.630
get off of here. Yeah, yeah.
1752
01:10:08.649 --> 01:10:08.930
Go for it.
1753
01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:12.489
So I want to get deep in the gym. Like,
1754
01:10:12.550 --> 01:10:14.550
I'm trying to, like, really cut up type shit.
1755
01:10:15.130 --> 01:10:15.869
Yeah. And, like, really.
1756
01:10:17.149 --> 01:10:18.949
Cock D, I just seen Creed and shit.
1757
01:10:19.270 --> 01:10:20.869
You just watched Creed, you're like, fuck, I need that.
1758
01:10:20.930 --> 01:10:25.569
I'm like, these niggas. I ain't finna be going to
1759
01:10:25.590 --> 01:10:28.670
the movie, you know what I'm saying? I ain't finna
1760
01:10:28.689 --> 01:10:30.550
be taking y'all's shirt off while I'm at the movies
1761
01:10:30.590 --> 01:10:33.210
with my girl and shit. Y'all niggas are all cut
1762
01:10:33.270 --> 01:10:34.649
up and shit. So I'm like, I need to get
1763
01:10:34.670 --> 01:10:36.310
in the gym and really cut up. So I'm trying
1764
01:10:36.329 --> 01:10:39.029
to figure out what I need to do.
1765
01:10:40.149 --> 01:10:40.680
As far as what?
1766
01:10:40.689 --> 01:10:42.779
Because my shit, I got a good foundation.
1767
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:43.600
I'm good.
1768
01:10:43.619 --> 01:10:46.000
It's just, I'm not a gym head.
1769
01:10:46.449 --> 01:10:46.880
You know?
1770
01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:49.520
So it's like, I'm trying to figure out like what's
1771
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:52.119
the one or two workouts that I should be doing
1772
01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:56.199
like consistently every single day. I got a gym membership
1773
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.000
and shit, but it's like, what do I need to
1774
01:10:59.060 --> 01:11:02.500
do when I go in there to really like lock
1775
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:03.680
in and how long it's going to take?
1776
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.600
Yeah. Uh, first off, you come to my gym. I
1777
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:08.779
just opened it and it's, you know, um, I'll, I
1778
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:10.659
could put you through a workout so I can like
1779
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:12.600
show you some stuff to like, just to do. Um,
1780
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:15.300
but it's hard for me to tell you right now,
1781
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:17.260
there's just one thing you could do every day. Cause
1782
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.279
then it would, it would get kind of like, that's
1783
01:11:19.340 --> 01:11:20.859
too much to do the same thing every day. But
1784
01:11:20.899 --> 01:11:23.770
I will say that most, I would just, we're talking
1785
01:11:23.789 --> 01:11:27.869
about most important exercises to like, to never skip is
1786
01:11:27.890 --> 01:11:31.829
going to be like squatting, deadlifting and pull-ups and benching obviously.
1787
01:11:31.909 --> 01:11:34.170
But at the same time, like the deadlifting, the squatting,
1788
01:11:34.189 --> 01:11:36.329
the pull-ups is going to, is going to do 10
1789
01:11:36.329 --> 01:11:38.729
times more for you than like pretty much everything else.
1790
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:42.739
If you challenge yourself at those lifts. Um, then obviously
1791
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.979
the diet is important for this muscle building, whatever you want,
1792
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:50.170
depending on like your goal. But yeah, man, I'd love to,
1793
01:11:50.229 --> 01:11:51.529
I could put you through some stuff and show you
1794
01:11:51.569 --> 01:11:52.890
what to do. And then you just, if you can
1795
01:11:52.909 --> 01:11:56.590
just continue it, you, you'd be solid. And then if
1796
01:11:56.609 --> 01:11:58.949
you're able to keep the diet, like kind of, I mean,
1797
01:11:58.970 --> 01:12:00.399
you could fuck off every once in a while. You
1798
01:12:00.420 --> 01:12:02.819
don't have to eat solid every single day, all the time.
1799
01:12:02.859 --> 01:12:05.319
It's just more like 80% of the time, more often
1800
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:07.520
than not. And you'll start to see those, that progress.
1801
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:08.779
Okay.
1802
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.560
Um, but yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me to
1803
01:12:10.579 --> 01:12:12.300
just give you like a, this is it. Just do
1804
01:12:12.340 --> 01:12:14.699
this one thing. Cause it just doesn't really work that way.
1805
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:15.119
Yeah.
1806
01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:18.199
And it also, everything works to a degree, to a point.
1807
01:12:18.260 --> 01:12:19.539
And then it kind of stops and you kind of
1808
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:21.720
have to like, look at what you had been doing
1809
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:23.600
and then go, okay, how could I, do I do,
1810
01:12:23.619 --> 01:12:26.520
am I do, should I do more reps, more weight?
1811
01:12:26.819 --> 01:12:28.659
You know, well, how should I change up my exercises?
1812
01:12:28.819 --> 01:12:30.689
And cause like I said, everything works and it stops
1813
01:12:30.729 --> 01:12:32.329
and then it slows down. You kind of have to
1814
01:12:32.369 --> 01:12:35.869
like learn how to continue to change it. Um, But
1815
01:12:35.890 --> 01:12:37.270
I can give you something that you can just kind
1816
01:12:37.310 --> 01:12:39.390
of do for a time and then you'll be able
1817
01:12:39.409 --> 01:12:41.859
to see progress and then come back, revisit, change it.
1818
01:12:42.529 --> 01:12:44.529
And if you could stay consistent with the food portion,
1819
01:12:44.590 --> 01:12:48.590
which is probably the easier part because if you just
1820
01:12:48.609 --> 01:12:51.140
kind of get a few ideas of what is solid,
1821
01:12:51.149 --> 01:12:52.760
what you like and kind of mix and match it,
1822
01:12:53.460 --> 01:12:55.680
you'd be solid. But you just have to be consistent.
1823
01:12:55.699 --> 01:12:58.479
Just like how you are making music, whatever you're good at, YouTube,
1824
01:12:58.500 --> 01:13:00.840
you just do it and you just, it's like every day.
1825
01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:02.060
How long you be in the gym?
1826
01:13:04.460 --> 01:13:06.520
Typically, like, probably like an hour and a half is
1827
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:08.039
all you really need. I mean, I'd be in the
1828
01:13:08.060 --> 01:13:10.020
gym like probably a couple hours because I go, I
1829
01:13:10.050 --> 01:13:13.529
film content, I bullshit a little bit, but like training,
1830
01:13:13.609 --> 01:13:15.130
like an hour, hour and a half at most.
1831
01:13:15.789 --> 01:13:17.369
Okay. All right.
1832
01:13:17.729 --> 01:13:19.649
I mean, and it's like, the thing about the gym, man,
1833
01:13:19.689 --> 01:13:21.670
is like, it's just going to like, you know, we
1834
01:13:21.689 --> 01:13:23.770
talked about mushrooms and stuff earlier for your brain, like
1835
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:26.199
the gym is going to do everything else for your
1836
01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:27.939
body like in a really positive way that's going to
1837
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.140
make you better at everything else. So it just always
1838
01:13:30.180 --> 01:13:31.979
makes sense to have that be a part of your routine.
1839
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.720
Even if obviously we're talking like you want to, fit
1840
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:36.539
some role or if you're thinking about acting in the future,
1841
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.100
trying to look a certain way, whatever, obviously that structure
1842
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.520
of your training may change a little bit. But overall life,
1843
01:13:41.579 --> 01:13:42.880
like it just makes sense to be in the gym
1844
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.090
no matter what. You know, like a part of your day.
1845
01:13:45.109 --> 01:13:45.829
It's just going to make you better.
1846
01:13:45.850 --> 01:13:46.310
Do your bones crack?
1847
01:13:46.949 --> 01:13:47.789
Do my bones crack?
1848
01:13:47.989 --> 01:13:50.770
Like your elbow type shit. Nah. My elbow be cracking.
1849
01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:53.119
You think that's from lack of the gym?
1850
01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:54.930
Yeah, it's like being a bitch.
1851
01:13:55.770 --> 01:13:56.470
Cracking bones.
1852
01:13:56.739 --> 01:13:57.649
No, I'm fucking with you.
1853
01:13:58.430 --> 01:13:58.729
I don't know.
1854
01:13:58.789 --> 01:13:59.810
It could be something.
1855
01:13:59.829 --> 01:14:01.829
I don't know. My elbow be cracking and shit, and
1856
01:14:01.850 --> 01:14:02.569
I'm like, damn.
1857
01:14:02.590 --> 01:14:05.130
Well, that's probably from when you fucking beat up.
1858
01:14:05.430 --> 01:14:08.970
Nate Wyatt. Yeah.
1859
01:14:09.010 --> 01:14:09.909
I was there. I saw that.
1860
01:14:10.090 --> 01:14:10.750
Yeah, that was fun.
1861
01:14:10.930 --> 01:14:11.670
That shit was fucking.
1862
01:14:13.649 --> 01:14:14.289
Fuck, man.
1863
01:14:15.670 --> 01:14:16.829
Wait, hold on. Before I get off.
1864
01:14:16.949 --> 01:14:17.250
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1865
01:14:17.270 --> 01:14:18.770
How you feel about the Jake Paul fight?
1866
01:14:19.260 --> 01:14:23.739
Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. Well,
1867
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:27.520
I feel like he finally fought like a real boxer.
1868
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:32.930
And I think it kind of showed, you know, I mean,
1869
01:14:33.869 --> 01:14:35.470
I thought for sure Jake was going to win just
1870
01:14:35.489 --> 01:14:37.390
because like the way it goes and because he didn't
1871
01:14:37.569 --> 01:14:38.930
get none of them got knocked out. I was like, oh,
1872
01:14:38.930 --> 01:14:40.449
they're going to give it to Jake because Jake's worth
1873
01:14:40.489 --> 01:14:44.289
way more money and thinking like business wise. But I mean,
1874
01:14:45.430 --> 01:14:48.960
I think Jake's improved like tremendously. I just think like
1875
01:14:49.770 --> 01:14:52.090
I don't know. Maybe if you look at all the
1876
01:14:52.130 --> 01:14:55.449
other people, he boxed, they just weren't real boxers, not
1877
01:14:55.489 --> 01:14:58.060
really like ready or like skilled in that art. And
1878
01:14:58.100 --> 01:14:59.840
it kind of showed, like I said, when he bought,
1879
01:14:59.899 --> 01:15:03.060
even though Tommy's a real boxer, but he's boxed also like,
1880
01:15:03.659 --> 01:15:06.079
and they do this typically for boxers and boxing in general,
1881
01:15:06.100 --> 01:15:08.939
where like, they'll, they'll have them box, like really like
1882
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:10.819
not great fighters to like build them up. So they
1883
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.760
don't fuck their, their, you know, cause he's got a
1884
01:15:13.779 --> 01:15:15.479
big name, the fury name, right? You don't want him
1885
01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:17.539
to be like one and two. You want him to
1886
01:15:17.579 --> 01:15:21.189
be like, you know, whatever. And Oh, So I understand
1887
01:15:21.229 --> 01:15:23.109
how they play that game, and they both play that game.
1888
01:15:23.130 --> 01:15:26.529
And I think, I mean, what Jake's doing is incredible
1889
01:15:26.550 --> 01:15:31.439
because it's like he's just entertaining her more than anything. But, yeah,
1890
01:15:31.460 --> 01:15:32.520
I don't know. What did you think about it?
1891
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:34.180
I don't know.
1892
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:35.720
I feel like he kept doing the same shit. He
1893
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:36.340
kept doing this.
1894
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:40.579
Yeah. I think it was a different type of ball
1895
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:42.539
game for him. Like, I was waiting on that punch,
1896
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.439
but you can't really depend on that punch.
1897
01:15:45.180 --> 01:15:45.960
Yeah, that one punch.
1898
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:48.239
Yeah, but if he would have hit him, it would
1899
01:15:48.260 --> 01:15:51.399
have been over. It's just... Tommy Loke. I think Tommy
1900
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.199
Fury got lucky in a way like he didn't get
1901
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.550
hit by that. But he definitely got skill for sure. Yeah.
1902
01:15:58.909 --> 01:16:00.090
I didn't expect him to win.
1903
01:16:00.210 --> 01:16:03.770
Well, all the other guys he boxed, like, they weren't moving.
1904
01:16:03.810 --> 01:16:06.699
They weren't like. Tommy was in there like a boxer.
1905
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:09.720
He was moving, jabbing, hooking, all types of shit.
1906
01:16:09.779 --> 01:16:10.439
I was like, God damn.
1907
01:16:10.460 --> 01:16:12.460
I was like, what the fuck? I ain't expecting him
1908
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:13.079
to be nice.
1909
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:16.479
The first two rounds, I was like, oh, Jake's fucked.
1910
01:16:16.739 --> 01:16:18.880
I know. I was like, if this go the distance,
1911
01:16:18.979 --> 01:16:20.500
I knew Jake was going to lose when he went
1912
01:16:20.539 --> 01:16:21.479
to decision for sure.
1913
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.399
I thought he wasn't just because of the money. I thought,
1914
01:16:25.420 --> 01:16:26.199
you know what I'm saying?
1915
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:30.479
They can't rob. You can't get robbed when it's too close.
1916
01:16:31.300 --> 01:16:34.500
It was like, that was obviously Tommy Fury that won
1917
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:37.239
that for sure. Even besides the knockdown. The knockdown to
1918
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:39.819
me wasn't even really like a knockdown knockdown. It was
1919
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.090
more so like a slip. But they countered it anyway
1920
01:16:43.310 --> 01:16:46.109
to like give, you know, he had a chance at
1921
01:16:46.130 --> 01:16:48.789
that point, but I knew Tommy won. That shit was
1922
01:16:48.829 --> 01:16:50.470
just crazy. But at the end of the day, I
1923
01:16:50.489 --> 01:16:51.529
don't think Jake can lose.
1924
01:16:52.210 --> 01:16:53.569
Yeah, I don't think there is losing.
1925
01:16:53.649 --> 01:16:54.770
Yeah, like that's your show.
1926
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.340
If he loses again, though, in a rematch, I think
1927
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:02.199
it'll be... bad for the trajectory of it. I think
1928
01:17:02.220 --> 01:17:04.100
right now it doesn't matter. I think right now he
1929
01:17:04.140 --> 01:17:06.340
comes back. If he can rematch and win, it's like
1930
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.310
same Jake Paul, like number one type shit. If he
1931
01:17:09.350 --> 01:17:10.479
comes back and lose, it's going to be bad.
1932
01:17:10.819 --> 01:17:12.750
If I was Jake, I would fight KSI.
1933
01:17:12.989 --> 01:17:15.130
That's the number one fight right now. I wouldn't even
1934
01:17:15.149 --> 01:17:16.239
do the rematch. I would just try and fight KSI.
1935
01:17:16.250 --> 01:17:18.250
Yeah, I wouldn't even fight Tommy. Well, Tommy Fury, that's
1936
01:17:18.329 --> 01:17:21.250
easy money, I guess. But I think him fighting Tommy
1937
01:17:21.289 --> 01:17:25.590
Fury would be low-key like a risk.
1938
01:17:25.810 --> 01:17:28.220
That's what I'm saying. If he loses again... People are
1939
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:28.439
going to.
1940
01:17:28.420 --> 01:17:30.380
Be like, oh, cool. Yeah, they ain't going to try
1941
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:30.819
to play him.
1942
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I was saying the same thing. I was thinking that
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if he fights KSI right now, best possible payout, best
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possible everything.
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Yeah, I think he should fight KSI, then fight Tommy Fury.
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Yeah.
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Because I feel like KSI is great, but I think
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that's an easier fight for him type shit.
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For Jake, yeah. I don't know if KSI will do it.
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I don't think KSI can beat Jake Paul. I fuck
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with KSI, though. But I don't think he can. Because
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KSI haven't fought no crazy motherfuckers at all.
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And it's like every time I've seen him in the
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ring with all the other people, he's beat him so quickly.
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It's like he's not really getting tested, obviously.
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You can't really see. You don't know. Because you got
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to think about it, bro. Going eight rounds. Oh, my God.
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When I fought Nate Wyatt. Bro, I almost died in
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the third round. Nobody knew.
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I was standing right there.
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Bro, I was dead. Like, if I was in the
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ring with somebody that really throwing them motherfuckers.
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Yeah, you're going down there like getting smacked.
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They probably, you know what I'm saying? My rap career
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probably be fucked right now. I ain't going to lie.
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Yeah, if you lost that, bro.
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That's what I'm saying.
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So it's like. You really did put that on the line.
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I did.
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That was intense. Because I was thinking like, damn, if
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he gets beat up, it's going to be like really bad.
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It's going to be over.
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You knew that. You said, fuck it.
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It.
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I knew it. I was like, man, I got to
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take that risk. Same thing when we talked about the
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whole podcast, where you got to take risk. And that
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shit benefited me. Chances to make champions. But yeah, if
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I was Jake, I would fight KSI. That's a cool,
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that's a bigger fight. And it's easier.
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Yeah.
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You know, you got a better chance because Tommy, I
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think Tommy Fury would beat KSI. Really? I think Tommy Fury,
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Lil' Key, nice. I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't expecting that.
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I think he nice for real. So I think KSI
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and Jake Paul is like a more equal fight.
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I think the last fight that they'll make, that Jake
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will make, will be against Logan.
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That'd be lit.
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I feel like they'll do it.
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Yeah.
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That would be massive.
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That'd be lit.
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Like no matter what happens, if they fought, it'd be insane.
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That'd be lit. That'd be crazy.
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I think it's going to happen.
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They for sure going to do that shit. They smart
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as fuck. But you can't expect them to really be
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fighting each other, though, really. I don't know. You think
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Jake Paul would knock his brother out?
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Yeah, I think they would love to fucking.
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That would be fucked up.
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Yeah, but I think they're so competitive.
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Yeah.
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You know, I think their whole life they've been competitive
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with each other. I think if they get in the ring,
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they'd like, this is like, it's a little personal. They'd
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let it out, dude. It'd be cool. It'd be cool
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to see. I'd love to see it. Would you ever
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box again? Yeah.
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It depends, though. Like, I don't know. It's dedication. Like,
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the fight that I did, I only trained for two weeks.
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I trained for two weeks. And them two weeks was hard, bro. Like,
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it was like. And then, like, the morning of my fight,
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the day of my fight, I went to the strip club.
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I had a hosting. I had to go. Like, I'm
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making money. So I had a hosting. I'm up to
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5 a.m.
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In Miami.
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Yeah, in Miami. Got sick. Like I was fighting with
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a cold.
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The cold hit you harder, huh? Yeah.
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So if I box again, I feel like I got
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to really, really take it serious and really like lock in,
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be in the camp for like six weeks, eight weeks
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at least. And really do it because obviously they don't
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want me to fight somebody that's decent.
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Yeah.
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Which Nate White was pretty decent. He hit me one
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good time. Yeah. He got me one good time. but
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that was it.
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He just like, he looked afraid to throw his hands.
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That's what it looked like. He, he, I ain't going
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to sit here and shit on him. Cause he, you know, he,
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he could be decent.
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Yeah.
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If he really work at it, which I'm pretty sure
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he stopped training and he stopped boxing too.
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I said, fuck it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But nah, he, that was a decent opponent for me.
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I ain't gonna lie.
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Yeah.
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It was cool. He just not experienced in like throwing
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punches and winning the judges over. Yeah.
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He's fighting a little scared.
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I think.
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Yeah.
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Nice guy. Good guy. Um, Well, that's it, man. I
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appreciate you coming. I appreciate you sharing. For sure. And, like, genuinely,
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for real. And we should get into the gym. We'll
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set something up for you to, like, just, like, fully understand.
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Yeah.
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Set, like, a little path.
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I pull up, man. You know, trying to get my
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workout on. Trying to get cock diesel.
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Yeah.
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Trying to get like you and shit, man.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I appreciate you, man.
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For real.
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For sure, bro.
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Very good to meet you, too, officially.
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Yes, sir, man.
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Oh, you can hear me now? I post long-ass videos.
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Yeah, I saw. I was looking at your stuff.
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Yeah, so it's damn near like a podcast. Like, I
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posted a three-hour and 30-minute video.
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Yeah.
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And it got a million views. So you already know.
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How many ads you put in your podcast?
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Well, you get, like, the ads from, like, obviously YouTube
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during the time. Obviously, you can put more when it's longer.
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But then you get, like, brand deals. You can put
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a couple throughout.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like a couple, like. you know, substantial deals for sure.
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Okay, okay.
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It's dope. It's cool.
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Next level. Next level. So what brand new you got
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for this one?
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I think there's two in this one. Okay, that's dope. Yeah.
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It's funny. I mean, it's not foreign to you, the money.
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You've been doing YouTube for a minute.
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Yeah, it's been like, been about seven years now.
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Yeah.
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Fuck, it's crazy because you're what, 25?
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Mm-hmm.
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So you guys started young.
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Yeah, I started when I was like 18, 19. Around
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that age. I really not. Actually, I started in like 10th,
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11th grade.
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Yeah.
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I used to buy views. What? Yeah.
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You used to buy views?
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When I first started.
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What do you mean buy views?
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I used to go on like Google ads and like
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buy views and like pay for advertisements for my little skits.
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Yeah. I know people who do that still.
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Yeah.
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Like a lot of people still do that. It's actually
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like pretty popular. Yeah. What pushed you into YouTube? Like why?
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You were 18, 19. You're like, I'm just going to
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do this.
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Yeah. I mean, it's really just, I don't know. I
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just like creating videos, entertaining. I used to make skits
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for my homies, my friends.
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Yeah.
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And then they was like, oh, this is funny. And
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I just kept doing it. But then it got to
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a point where I figured out that you can make
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money from it.
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Yeah.
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So then that's when I really got into it. The
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first YouTuber that I really started watching and made me
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really want to start doing YouTube was Fouseytube.
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Wow that's actually really funny because he was the first
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youtuber that i got into youtube with like i've been
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doing instagram because instagram was like i started way before
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youtube and i i got to like 600 000 i
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think on instagram this is like way back in like
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must have been 2013 2014 and he was one of
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the biggest youtubers at the time and i met him
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at like a celebrity game like a football game and
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i was like oh i want to because he was
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like kind of overweight And I was like, I want
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to get into YouTube and train you and then help
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me start my YouTube career. So it's kind of interesting
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how you said that's the guy you saw.
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Yeah. I used to watch FouseyTube every day.
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Yeah.
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Every single day I watched every vlog.
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What about... This is actually interesting. What about certain people
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did you enjoy? And do you find anyone that you
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enjoy now on YouTube? Or do you just make so
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much content you can't consume it?
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Yeah.
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I can't really get into nobody now because it's like...
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I do it so much now, it's like I can't
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really lock in with a creator. I would say the
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only creator that I really watch is Kai.
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Kai Sinat.
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That's the one I really watch now. He's like my
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homie at the same time. At the same time, he's
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very entertaining. So I'm more in the stream world when
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I consume content versus YouTube. I don't know. I like
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the vulnerability. That's what I really like.
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On YouTube.
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Yeah, like when people just open with it. That's why
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I like FouseyTube so much because nigga was crying and
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shit on there. I was like, this shit real, this crazy.
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This dog died and shit. You know what I'm saying?
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I was feeling the emotion through the screen. So I'm like, man,
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it's like a damn TV show, like a soap opera.
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So I kind of, in my content, I try to
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be like vulnerable to an extent. But I ain't finna
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cry on that bitch. If I cry on there, you know,
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it's fake, but it's like, it's skit type shit.
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Yeah.
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I cry. I'm a big pussy, dude. I get talking
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to some shit. It'll make me cry. But I'm curious though.
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So you, you were, you were like in YouTube and
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then you're like, I'm going to start doing music or
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had you always wanted to do music?
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I always been around music, but as growing up, I
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used to watch conspiracy theories and I used to be
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really scared of the Illuminati and all this other bullshit.
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Cause I used to watch these YouTube videos like every
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day and I'd be like, what the fuck? I don't
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want to be a rapper.
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Not because of the idea of the Illuminati.
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Like, yeah.
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Like they just made it scary for it. Make it
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scary for like an artist to really, and not everybody
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be thinking like, Oh, you sold your soul. All the
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other shit.
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Yeah.
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But in reality, that shit ain't even real for real.
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So it's like, I always been around and my dad
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was an engineer in my hometown of Pontiac, Michigan. Um,
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I used to make songs. I got songs when I
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was like five.
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Do people joke and say you're not really from there?
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What, from Pontiac?
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Yeah, because I feel like I've seen a few things
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where people are like, he's not really from there.
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No, no. I think Pontiac is such an unknown city,
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and I'm kind of like the one that really put
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it on, because it's like a small city. Nobody says
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I'm from Pontiac. Everybody says I'm from Detroit, but I
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say I'm from Pontiac. You know what I mean? I
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don't like to claim another city that I'm not from.
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So I kind of like put it on the map
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in a way. But nah, man, my dad was an
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engineer back in Pontiac. I got songs with my brothers
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when I was like five as a kid. I just
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always been around it. I just never really took it
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serious for that one weird reason.
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So funny.
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So I was like, but you know, I'm a kid,
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so I'm believing this shit as I'm doing it or whatever.
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And then as I got into YouTube and I got
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bigger and bigger, I started making a lot of money.
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And then I got into that diss track era.
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Yeah, I remember that.
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Rice gum era and all that shit. I remember that.
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So then I was like, okay, this shit low-key moving.
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And I knew I can rap. Like, I always knew
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I could do music. It's just something that I never really,
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just like, you know, I'm going to really do this shit.
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How do you find that out? You're just like one
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day in your bathroom fucking singing to yourself?
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I used to battle rap in high school, middle school,
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like at lunch and shit. Like, I used to really
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be rapping. So it'd be like, I always knew I
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had the skill to rhyme. Cause it is a skill.
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A lot of people can't rap, you know? So I
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always knew I had that skill. So I'm like, damn,
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you know, I want to do this shit. But at
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the same time, like, you know, I don't know. I'm
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making so much money on YouTube. I'm just focused on this.
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Then the diss track era really kind of segway me
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into this career in a way, because I was getting
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so many views and so much love and people was
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liking it.
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To stay in YouTube.
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Yeah, like to keep doing the diss track shit. Yeah.
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So I was like, shit, let me go ahead and
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try to make an original song, my own joint. It
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really take music serious. So then I made another channel,
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which is my music channel now. And I was like,
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I'm going to separate it. And then I just started dropping.
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This is what I find so interesting about you versus
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a lot of other creators who like try to make music.
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Like you actually really do it. Like you really did it.
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And you've separated it where like, it doesn't feel like
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you're a corny YouTuber trying to rap. And I'm not
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trying to disrespect anyone, but that's something that I noticed
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about you looking at your stuff. You've separated enough that
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it doesn't feel that way. Where most people, they're YouTubers
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and they start rapping, it's like you're just a YouTuber
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that's trying to rap. First, a YouTuber became a rapper,
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and it's somewhat separate.
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How'd you do it? The music industry is really perception.
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This shit is just all high looks, for real. When
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I put myself around certain people, Or you see me
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on a red carpet or you see me around this
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artist and this rapper and doing a feature with this dude.
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It just make the shit more real for people. Even
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though it's already real to me, it make it more
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real to the audience. You know what I'm saying? I
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feel like other people that did music and did YouTube
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at the same time like I'm doing, kind of like
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never really took that approach where I'm like, okay, let
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me focus on the image. and the perspective to really
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make motherfuckers believe what's going on. Yeah.
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Well, let's talk about that because I saw an interview
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you did a couple months ago at Breakfast Club and
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you were talking about how being a rapper and being
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a YouTuber, being a YouTuber can kind of affect what,
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I guess, image-wise people perceive a rapper being a rapper
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versus a YouTuber. Why do you think there is that
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line that makes people be like, like I said earlier, oh,
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you're just a YouTuber and not take you serious as
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a rapper?
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Because it's like, It's like your YouTube audience is like
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your family. So it's like, think about it. If you
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got a cousin right now, right, and he start rapping,
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like you're going to support it. But at the same time,
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you're like, I know this dude. I grew up with him.
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What the hell? This is my cousin. You know what
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I mean? So it's like, I feel like that's how
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people look at me. For the people that grew up
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watching me, they like.
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They hold you to that.
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Yeah, they hold me to that. Like, I just seen
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you doing skits and now you. You know what I mean?
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So they try to, they think they know me and
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they think they can like, Be like, oh, nah, he
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ain't really rapping for real. Like, I just like him
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for this. So some people just, there's people to this
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day that watch me every single day that has never
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listened to one of my songs.
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Yeah, well, that's an interesting thing, how people just in general, like,
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want to put you in a box.
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Yeah, they just choose not to listen to it. But
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everybody that choose to listen to my music like it.
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So the people that don't like it or they say
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my music is trash or whatever, they have never listened
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to a song.
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Yeah, it's always from the outside in.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Let's talk about that. That's funny, that idea of selling
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your soul to the Illuminati because of the music industry
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when you were a kid. And you got older, and
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then you get more into the music industry. Are you
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fully independent?
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Uh-uh.
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So you're signed.
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Yeah, I signed in 2018.
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Do you still feel like it's... Obviously, there's not the
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Illuminati control and everything, but there's more control, right? Because
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they kind of.
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I don't know nothing about the Illuminati, by the way.
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That ain't got nothing.
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Well, I'm not saying that's like I'm not saying that's
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happening I'm just saying like people in charge of these
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businesses the labels they do want and expect certain things it's.
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A business it's you know they try to make money
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they invest in a lot of they invest in millions
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into artists they want to make money times 10 so
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you know it's cool my deal is it's a partnership
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so I own my masters I like a 50-50 deal
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so it's like shit more cool than most artists.
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Well you probably knew that because you came in with
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the business sense from doing youtube and making your own
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money prior to even existing in that space where you
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like you knew your value yeah and i think a
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lot of people they don't they just kind of get
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taken because someone sees like a potential they get signed
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and you know that 360 and they take everything yeah
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and they don't really know what the value really is
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um also something i found out i found out about
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just randomly i don't know who's tough it was it
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was blue face or someone was telling me you have
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an an OnlyFans that is for teaching people how to, like,
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make money on the internet.
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Yeah, I stopped doing it, though.
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You stopped doing that?
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Yeah, I think I'm going to make my own website
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and do it because I feel like just kids in
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general that probably want to learn from me, like, how
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their parents going to look at it and they go
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on their phone and they see OnlyFans. Yeah, I see
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what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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What the hell are your OnlyFans for? Then they got
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to explain, oh, I'm learning from.
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DDG, so. I see. Yeah, you should make a site. That's,
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you know. But was that, like, what kind of content
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were you putting on there?
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I was really teaching people everything I know. So I'd
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be like, okay, this is how you make this content,
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this is how you get the most views, thumbnail, clickbait, titling.
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I was just teaching people what I know on how
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to grow as a YouTuber. I feel like everybody wants
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to learn from me because I started an entertainment company,
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which I kind of stopped now, but I signed a
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bunch of creators and I started off with one female
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and She went from zero, mind you. She never did YouTube,
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never did nothing, Instagram, nothing. Signed her to this entertainment
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company I came with off the dome and was like, okay,
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let's work. She went from zero to 200 subscribers, 200,000
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subscribers in like a month and a half or something
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like that, making five figures. So it's like when people
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seen that, I was like, okay, let me do it again.
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Did it again with another creator. Did it again and
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kept doing it. So it built my credibility to the
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point where I'm like, okay, I'm going to make this
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OnlyFans and teach y'all how I did, how I'm blowing
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these people up and doing this and that. And yeah,
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I made a lot of money.
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Yeah. Do you, but like that situation, cause I've, I've
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done some management stuff, but don't you ever find yourself
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in positions where like people kind of, they turn their
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back on you. Have you been your back turned on? Like, like,
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like someone be like, you didn't do this for me.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know how that'd be. Everybody want attention.
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Yeah.
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They want all your attention. So it's, It happens. It
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is what it is. It's business, but I don't feel
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no type of way about it.
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Speaking of attention, what happened with the whole Ruby Bros
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and the whole wearing the shirt thing? Did you make
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a song literally because of that? Did you make the
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song the next week or something?
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I made a song because I'm the type of nigga
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where I maximize all negativity. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
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I just seen, even though internally the whole situation is
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completely different than what it look like online, I'm just
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the type of nigga to troll and try to maximize
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every dollar. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to get
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on stream, talk about it a little bit, make some money,
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get my clips. I'm going to go ahead and make
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a little video, clickbait the titles a little bit. Then
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after that, I'm going to make a song. So it's like,
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if y'all going to hate on me, at minimum, I
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got to make money.
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Well, what was the problem? What were they mad about?
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They just think I'm a dog now. That's not what
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it is, though. But I'm not the type of nigga
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to really get on there and explain and tell nobody business.
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So it's like, I know what it looks like, and
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I'm okay with getting hated on. You feel me? Like,
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I don't really care. Like, the internet is fake. And
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I guarantee you, even though we talking about it right now,
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which I know you probably going to use this as
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your title and shit.
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Maybe some title, something in there, yeah?
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Yeah, but I mean, you probably going to bring this
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shit back up. I know motherfuckers want to hear about
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it and shit. But other than that, it's like people forget.
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I'm still happily where I'm at.
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Yeah.
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You know, if it was really a serious situation, like
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the female I'm dating, I'm pretty sure it's hundreds of
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thousands of people that want her. You know what I mean?
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And she has plenty of options. If it was really
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a serious situation internally, she would have been gone.
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Yeah, Halle would have loved her.
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Yeah, come on, man.
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She.
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You know what that is? So it's like, people don't
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look at that though. They think she like doing something wrong,
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but in reality they don't know what's really going on.
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Yeah.
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So, but it wasn't, it's not on purpose. Like it's,
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it seemed like she wanted to clout. She was coming
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after it.
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Yeah. I just see, find the whole situation lame. It's like,
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that's just so, it's just lame to me. Like, as
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you can see from my end, like I'm not exposing
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no messages. That's some real lame shit real real females
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ain't doing no shit like that you know what i
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mean like just trying to screenshot and show some shit
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and tweet and get retweets and all that other shit
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and then when she see ain't nothing go down and
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she shut it all down then it's like you ain't
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got nothing else you feel me so it's like.
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But the blogs and all that stuff like i feel
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like that's i don't know like it seems like the
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music industry well i guess just social media in general
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like people thrive on just that type of attention that
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negativity Like negativity seems to be like, cause I saw
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a tweet, which I fully, I fully relate to. You
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were tweeted like a couple of days ago about like,
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it doesn't matter if you're super positive, like no one
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really gives a fuck. And if, but if you're negative,
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people are all over it and they're trying to figure
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it out and they're trying to like make this be
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something that they want it to be and create these stories. Um,
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have you dealt with more like negativity or positivity throughout
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your career? Would you say? Cause you obviously know how
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to spin it.
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Yeah.
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Positivity for sure.
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Yeah.
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Um, I'm rarely hating on them. Like, this is my
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first go around, so. Really? Yeah, it's kind of, it's
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kind of a little weird to me. I'm usually the
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most liked motherfucker. So it's a little different when I'm
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on the other end of the pole and it's like
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motherfuckers hating on me, but I'm starting to navigate through
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it and starting to really figure out how to, you know,
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deal with it.
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Yeah.
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It's a whole different audience for me, so it's like.
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The angry haters?
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Yeah, it's like, you know, Twitter makes, I was talking
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to them Somebody yesterday, and we was talking about Twitter,
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and Twitter makes a fan so much more powerful on
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any other social media. Twitter makes a fan damn near
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a celebrity. Yeah. Because you can have five followers. You
403
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can have 100 followers. You tweet the right shit.
404
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Yeah, it goes crazy.
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And the right motherfucker retweeted it like it. It's over with.
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Your shit going 5,000 retweets, a million views. You're starting
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a whole scandal.
408
00:17:15.009 --> 00:17:18.049
Everyone sees it. Twitter's fucking powerful, man. I love it.
409
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It is. It's dope, though. I fuck with it for
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00:17:20.230 --> 00:17:22.990
that reason. But at the same time, when you get negativity,
411
00:17:23.049 --> 00:17:25.490
it's kind of ass. But at the end of the day,
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that's why I fuck with it. I be on that
413
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bitch every day. That's my favorite app.
414
00:17:30.450 --> 00:17:32.970
Yeah. Are you heavy on Instagram?
415
00:17:33.380 --> 00:17:35.380
I like Instagram, but I just post a picture and
416
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get off, for real. I might post a little story
417
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or something.
418
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What about TikTok?
419
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TikTok consumes most of my time.
420
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What's your on that?
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I don't post on there, but I post on there,
422
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but not as often. I'm just starting to really post
423
00:17:51.089 --> 00:17:55.950
on there. But when I wake up, TikTok is definitely like,
424
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I close that motherfucker, go check out Instagram for a second,
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maybe Twitter. close them open tiktok back up scroll a
426
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little more close it open it back up yeah yeah
427
00:18:08.509 --> 00:18:10.630
it's hard to get off like in between.
428
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Yeah in between going to the bathroom come back to
429
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it yeah i'm saying like tiktok's tough man like i
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will i'm telling you the truth like i literally one
431
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day i was scrolling and i remember like i felt
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like i had to pull myself away from it because
433
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it was so it got me so wrapped into it
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which is crazy though because like you gotta think these
435
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kids are probably rotting their fucking brains man Like that
436
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nonstop scroll and just like the attention span.
437
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My nephew, he watched YouTube Shorts though.
438
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Same shit.
439
00:18:33.690 --> 00:18:36.869
Yeah, same exact thing. Like they all doing the same shit.
440
00:18:37.410 --> 00:18:39.549
But like he watched YouTube Shorts a lot. I feel
441
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like a lot more kids is on YouTube Shorts versus TikTok.
442
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I feel like TikTok is really people our age. Yeah.
443
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What content do you enjoy making the most now? Like
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what do you have the most besides music stuff, obviously?
445
00:18:51.910 --> 00:18:53.730
Like what content on social? Because I still see you
446
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do a bunch of vlogs still.
447
00:18:54.849 --> 00:18:59.000
Yeah. Yeah. No, I like just vlogging. I like just
448
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having fun, daily life shit. That's really it. It's like
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selfless shit, not too forced. I used to do like
450
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a lot of like series and shit where I like
451
00:19:10.829 --> 00:19:13.950
make up a storyline and I kind of like, you know,
452
00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.319
create like my own little mini series and mini TV
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show for a second and like just keep doing that.
454
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That's fun. But now it's just more so like just
455
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day in the life. I feel like that's more personable
456
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for my fans and shit.
457
00:19:28.930 --> 00:19:31.670
Why do you think people like you? Like, why do
458
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you think you're successful? Because obviously you've been doing this
459
00:19:33.690 --> 00:19:36.180
for long enough. You're able to see what works, algorithm, clickbait,
460
00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.299
all this kind of shit, titles. But why do you
461
00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:40.059
think people are drawn to you as a YouTuber?
462
00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:44.269
I think, and I say this before a conference, I
463
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think I'm one of the funniest people alive.
464
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Yo, what the fuck?
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I'm funny like i'm funny that statement was funny if
466
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you understand if you really understand my humor like i
467
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got a i got like a different type of humor
468
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you know what i mean like i got a troll
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00:20:00.970 --> 00:20:05.349
mentality so it's like my humor is just a little
470
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different it's it's Not forced. You know what I mean?
471
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And once you get it, you're like, God damn, this
472
00:20:10.410 --> 00:20:15.259
nigga funny as hell. So I'm funny. I'm real. You know,
473
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I'm relatable. And it's just like, I don't know. Like,
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I like watching me.
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Damn.
476
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That's how you know it's good content. Anytime I see
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my content and I'm like, oh, this is funny and
478
00:20:27.940 --> 00:20:29.660
it's me, I'm like, that shit's probably really good.
479
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That's what I'm saying. Like, I watch my, sometimes when
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I edit a vlog or something, I'm watching them like, oh,
481
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this is funny. They're going to like this shit.
482
00:20:37.450 --> 00:20:38.670
You edit all your own stuff still?
483
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Most of it. Because I got a cameraman now. I
484
00:20:43.569 --> 00:20:45.650
just started doing the cameraman shit. I used to just
485
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vlog off my phone. I vlogged off my phone for
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like a whole year.
487
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What the fuck?
488
00:20:51.109 --> 00:20:52.809
Yeah, edit on iMovie on my phone.
489
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What the fuck?
490
00:20:54.809 --> 00:20:58.069
Shit, hella easy. But then I got into the cameraman shit,
491
00:20:58.109 --> 00:21:01.509
and it's way easier. So sometimes if I'm too tired,
492
00:21:01.589 --> 00:21:03.029
I just ask him to cut it up. But I
493
00:21:03.049 --> 00:21:05.390
barely edit. I tell him don't even edit for real.
494
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Yeah.
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Cause my, you know, my vlogs now.
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Just like I'm raw.
497
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Yeah.
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It's like raw hour long type shit.
499
00:21:11.579 --> 00:21:14.240
Yeah. I think people, that's, that's coming back a lot more.
500
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Like people like that more right now. Cause I remember
501
00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:18.559
all this stuff kind of goes in phases of like
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what's popular, what people like, like the quicker stuff. I mean,
503
00:21:21.619 --> 00:21:24.390
obviously like the Mr. B shit insanely viral cause it's
504
00:21:24.410 --> 00:21:26.509
so crazy, but it's a specific audience for that kind
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of stuff.
506
00:21:26.970 --> 00:21:27.230
Yeah.
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00:21:27.349 --> 00:21:28.650
You think you have like an older audience?
508
00:21:29.690 --> 00:21:29.950
Yeah.
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00:21:29.990 --> 00:21:32.289
My fans grew up. I don't like to call them
510
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fans supporters.
511
00:21:33.630 --> 00:21:33.809
Yeah.
512
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They grew up for sure.
513
00:21:35.369 --> 00:21:35.509
Yeah.
514
00:21:36.299 --> 00:21:38.619
Everybody that come up to me and like take a picture, man,
515
00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:40.619
I've been watching you since I was 14, 15.
516
00:21:40.619 --> 00:21:40.900
Yeah.
517
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I get the same shit.
518
00:21:43.809 --> 00:21:46.089
Yeah. So they like, you know, they in their twenties now,
519
00:21:46.769 --> 00:21:48.849
but you know, I got kids that rock with me too,
520
00:21:48.910 --> 00:21:51.170
but I definitely have an older fan base now.
521
00:21:51.910 --> 00:21:52.109
Yeah.
522
00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:56.150
So, um, I guess on the, on the music side
523
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of things in relationship to like other content creators. And
524
00:21:59.509 --> 00:22:03.009
also do you, do you think that now in, in
525
00:22:03.049 --> 00:22:06.980
relationship to music to be like a, I don't know,
526
00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:10.559
to have a strong following as a music creator, not
527
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:12.700
just like a content creator, you kind of have to
528
00:22:13.140 --> 00:22:16.440
do social media. I feel like you can't do... I
529
00:22:16.460 --> 00:22:18.940
feel like almost now, it's like labels will be like, well,
530
00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:21.039
they're probably, if they're going to consider you, they're probably
531
00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.079
looking at your socials.
532
00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:27.039
You can't succeed in the music industry as just being
533
00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:32.779
a good artist no more. Unless you motherfucking Drake Lil Baby... Yeah.
534
00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:35.680
You know what I'm saying? And you motherfucking Travis Scott
535
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:39.180
and shit, and you already passed that threshold of trying
536
00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.859
to make it. Yeah. And you already so turnt and
537
00:22:41.900 --> 00:22:44.279
got such a solid fan base that you good. You
538
00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:46.119
know what I mean? You ain't really got to get online.
539
00:22:46.269 --> 00:22:49.150
Or somebody like Playboi Carti or Youngboy. You know what
540
00:22:49.170 --> 00:22:51.609
I mean? They fans is just there no matter what.
541
00:22:52.130 --> 00:22:54.990
So it's like if you ain't got that, it's like
542
00:22:55.029 --> 00:22:58.109
you have to be on social media. So it's like
543
00:22:58.970 --> 00:23:02.200
every song that's on the charts right now, Got hundreds
544
00:23:02.220 --> 00:23:03.720
of thousands of videos on TikTok.
545
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:04.500
Yeah.
546
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:05.829
It's all content.
547
00:23:06.509 --> 00:23:06.710
Yeah.
548
00:23:06.930 --> 00:23:08.130
I might piss a lot of people off with this,
549
00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:11.369
but why do people like Youngboy so much? Why do
550
00:23:11.390 --> 00:23:13.670
you think he's so popular? Playing with fire, man. He's
551
00:23:13.690 --> 00:23:16.430
like the craziest, huh? Playing with fire. No, I'm not
552
00:23:16.450 --> 00:23:18.089
saying I don't like him. I'm saying like.
553
00:23:18.109 --> 00:23:19.170
If that nigga fan base is crazy, I'm trying to
554
00:23:19.299 --> 00:23:19.779
tell you.
555
00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.420
That's what I'm saying. That's my question.
556
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:21.799
Why?
557
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It's not to say that I don't like him. I'm
558
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:27.619
just saying, why is he so fucking popular? Why is
559
00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:28.299
his fan base so crazy?
560
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.440
He's just real. He just say whatever. Like, that nigga...
561
00:23:31.940 --> 00:23:34.220
Get on the internet and tell you, you know what
562
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.019
I'm saying? He'd get on a song and tell you
563
00:23:36.059 --> 00:23:38.539
what the fuck happened last night, even though it's some
564
00:23:38.619 --> 00:23:41.740
crazy shit that a motherfucker wouldn't tell. You know what
565
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:43.759
I mean? Yeah. He just put all this shit in
566
00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:46.819
his music. By the way, I got a song with
567
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.000
him called Hood Melody. It just went gold yesterday.
568
00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:49.519
Yeah, I saw that.
569
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:51.539
Yeah, man. I saw that.
570
00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:54.000
Out of all these people you've worked with, who's your
571
00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.259
favorite that you've worked with? Which just kind of might
572
00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.519
be a hard question to answer because they might, you know.
573
00:23:58.759 --> 00:23:59.680
I would say Blueface.
574
00:24:00.130 --> 00:24:02.190
Yeah, he's nice, man. He's a nice dude.
575
00:24:02.230 --> 00:24:08.519
Yeah, he's very misconceptualized from his relationship and what's going
576
00:24:08.619 --> 00:24:10.960
on with him right now, but that's a real nigga. Like,
577
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.140
I fuck with Blueface, like, as, like, a real homie
578
00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:14.680
type shit.
579
00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:16.900
Yeah, he's cool. Like, I did a pod with him
580
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:18.740
and Stiney, and then he came to the gym and
581
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.779
worked out, and he was, like, not at all how
582
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.099
I expected him to be. Nice as fuck.
583
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.299
He nice as hell, man. He gave me my first
584
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.329
real big shot. Like, Blueface was my first real big feature.
585
00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:31.190
Yeah.
586
00:24:31.529 --> 00:24:32.529
Was it the Calabasas song?
587
00:24:32.730 --> 00:24:32.869
Mm-hmm.
588
00:24:33.049 --> 00:24:33.809
That shit blew up.
589
00:24:33.890 --> 00:24:36.130
He hit me up. He was like, let me remix that.
590
00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:38.950
I'm like, I don't know how this, because, you know,
591
00:24:39.529 --> 00:24:43.190
it's a whole different style. So I'm like, shit, fuck it.
592
00:24:43.430 --> 00:24:44.890
I mean, I don't know how it's going to go,
593
00:24:44.930 --> 00:24:48.339
but he put it. I went to the studio. He
594
00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:49.759
was like, all right, I'm going to come in right here,
595
00:24:50.180 --> 00:24:52.299
and I'm going to come in right here, and boom.
596
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:54.559
And we did it. And he did it right there
597
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:56.900
in the studio. I don't like all this shit. All right,
598
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:57.519
what the fuck?
599
00:24:57.599 --> 00:24:59.900
Yeah, that song. That song is dope.
600
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.690
Yeah, that shit went up, man. So yeah, shut up.
601
00:25:02.819 --> 00:25:05.160
So how does, if you could explain this, I don't
602
00:25:05.180 --> 00:25:06.839
know if you can, but I think you can. How
603
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:11.589
does music payment work? People make a song, the engineers
604
00:25:11.630 --> 00:25:13.690
get paid, the artists get paid, the label gets paid.
605
00:25:14.329 --> 00:25:15.529
How does that break down?
606
00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:21.019
Man, like the streams. Music costs so much money to make, bro.
607
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.019
That's why the shit don't come out as much. Because
608
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:28.690
it's like, bro, it's, You got producers out here charging $ 20, 000
609
00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:30.769
for a beat, and then they also want percentages on
610
00:25:30.789 --> 00:25:33.049
the back end. Then you got to pay the engineer.
611
00:25:33.069 --> 00:25:34.890
Then you got to pay to get it mixed and mastered.
612
00:25:35.230 --> 00:25:36.809
Then you got to pay to get it up on
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00:25:36.829 --> 00:25:41.630
the streaming platforms. So it's just so much different size
614
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.160
of money that come from it. Then you got the
615
00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:46.039
publishing side when shit hit the radio and get played
616
00:25:46.099 --> 00:25:47.920
at this and that. You know what I mean? It's
617
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.980
so much different shit. But I started off independent, so
618
00:25:52.019 --> 00:25:55.140
I was independent for like, two, three years before I
619
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.019
even got signed to a label. So I was making
620
00:25:58.059 --> 00:25:59.900
a lot of money. Like, you make a lot of
621
00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:01.309
money on music. I'm not going to lie.
622
00:26:01.990 --> 00:26:03.809
So then why'd you go to label?
623
00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:06.990
Because you can't get to that point without a label.
624
00:26:07.029 --> 00:26:09.309
You can't get to that Drake level. You can't get
625
00:26:09.349 --> 00:26:13.069
to that Youngboy level. You know what I'm saying? You're
626
00:26:13.089 --> 00:26:15.539
not going to get there without a big machine behind
627
00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:17.380
you that's going to put you on these playlists, going
628
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.200
to put you on this. These labels got a whole
629
00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:21.599
building of motherfuckers that's just going to work your song.
630
00:26:22.220 --> 00:26:23.759
Make sure that they're going to do all the little
631
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:25.859
shit that you wouldn't do as an independent artist or
632
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:28.900
you can't do as an independent artist. So that's why
633
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.569
you see, like you couldn't tell me an independent artist
634
00:26:31.609 --> 00:26:35.109
right now that's on the charts. That's on top 40
635
00:26:35.109 --> 00:26:35.450
right now.
636
00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:36.769
I see what you're saying.
637
00:26:37.170 --> 00:26:38.130
Couldn't tell me because.
638
00:26:39.109 --> 00:26:41.970
Wait, so how do these playlist things work? Because don't
639
00:26:41.990 --> 00:26:43.990
playlists work like if you're on it and it gets
640
00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:45.819
a play, like if let's say Drake's on it and
641
00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:48.039
they play his song, all the whole playlist gets a play?
642
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.140
Kind of. It depends on, you know, the listener. So,
643
00:26:51.539 --> 00:26:54.920
you know, I just dropped a song recently called Way
644
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:55.440
Too Petty.
645
00:26:55.940 --> 00:26:56.119
Yeah.
646
00:26:56.180 --> 00:26:57.920
It's about this whole situation. Funny.
647
00:26:58.359 --> 00:26:58.720
Yeah.
648
00:26:58.900 --> 00:27:02.150
And I drop a lot of songs just on YouTube.
649
00:27:02.549 --> 00:27:03.710
But I was like, you know, I'm going to push
650
00:27:03.750 --> 00:27:07.569
this through my label. And they was able to get
651
00:27:07.609 --> 00:27:10.430
it on Rap Caviar top 20.
652
00:27:10.430 --> 00:27:10.650
Yeah.
653
00:27:11.009 --> 00:27:13.759
Just like that. It's all connections. Like, I don't know
654
00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:16.119
if it's money involved with the playlist. It might be.
655
00:27:16.140 --> 00:27:19.380
It might be a retainer. You never know. But, you know,
656
00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:21.779
it was so easy for them to get on Rap Caviar,
657
00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:26.700
which has, like, 12 20 million listeners on it so
658
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.680
it's like if you get on that playlist you're good
659
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.140
like you you on spotify you're good like you're gonna
660
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.680
if your song's good it's gonna get played and you're
661
00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:39.140
in the mix with motherfuckers like the you know the
662
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.680
big hitters so it's like once they song get played
663
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.160
by their fans on there your song come next so
664
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.509
you gaining new fans when you get on these playlists.
665
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.279
Yeah But it doesn't work like I'm thinking. If it works,
666
00:27:50.299 --> 00:27:52.559
like if someone on there gets a play, then everyone
667
00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:55.059
else gets a play. It's just because it's like in rotation.
668
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.660
Nah, it's like if a motherfucker get on your song
669
00:27:57.940 --> 00:27:59.599
while they on a playlist, they might not like it
670
00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:01.000
and skip it. You never know.
671
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.900
So the song needs a certain amount of play to
672
00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:03.759
get like a stream.
673
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:04.940
30 seconds.
674
00:28:04.940 --> 00:28:05.759
30 seconds.
675
00:28:05.779 --> 00:28:06.039
Yeah.
676
00:28:06.059 --> 00:28:07.660
So if they play a song for 30 seconds, it
677
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:08.299
counts as a stream.
678
00:28:08.819 --> 00:28:12.940
Okay. And so the money comes based on, because I mean,
679
00:28:13.049 --> 00:28:14.450
I kind of have an idea of this. I've talked
680
00:28:14.470 --> 00:28:16.769
to other people about it, but. People listening probably think
681
00:28:16.809 --> 00:28:18.410
about this kind of stuff. So the money comes based
682
00:28:18.529 --> 00:28:21.130
on how many times it gets played and then how
683
00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:21.970
long it gets played?
684
00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:24.710
Nah. Once it hit that 30 seconds, you good. That's
685
00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:26.650
a stream. You can click off my shit at that point.
686
00:28:26.670 --> 00:28:31.240
I already got my stream. But how many plays it is,
687
00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:32.319
it's just like YouTube.
688
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:32.880
Yeah.
689
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.119
So on YouTube, when you drop a music video and
690
00:28:36.140 --> 00:28:39.799
it gets like fucking 20 million views or 90 million views,
691
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.160
this is just YouTube? Like AdSense?
692
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:50.660
Yeah, that's regular shit. It's completely different. Apple and Tidal
693
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.789
makes the most money for streaming. You'll make way more
694
00:28:54.849 --> 00:28:59.250
money on CPMs. It's all CPMs. It's just regular shit.
695
00:28:59.930 --> 00:29:00.789
Your shit get a lot of.
696
00:29:00.789 --> 00:29:01.970
Views on Apple.
697
00:29:01.990 --> 00:29:04.309
You make a lot of money. Spotify is like half that,
698
00:29:04.349 --> 00:29:07.480
I think. You still make a lot of money, though.
699
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.700
What's the most you've ever made from a song? I'm
700
00:29:09.740 --> 00:29:11.160
assuming it's the Calabasas one.
701
00:29:11.730 --> 00:29:15.579
Yeah, I dropped that independently. No, I dropped. You dropped
702
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.119
that independently? No. Yeah, man. Oh, shit. I dropped it independently.
703
00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:26.539
Because look, this will happen. This will happen. So in 2019,
704
00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:29.069
I believe, I think that's when I dropped it. I
705
00:29:29.069 --> 00:29:32.950
dropped an album called Valedictorian, which was really forced. It
706
00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:34.849
was just a bunch of songs. I'm fresh in the
707
00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:37.650
industry as a sign artist. like i'm just i put
708
00:29:37.650 --> 00:29:40.160
18 songs on there not really thinking about the business
709
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.420
of it yeah how much money needs to be spent
710
00:29:42.940 --> 00:29:44.660
and it's a lot of money getting spent and i'm
711
00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:46.539
rushing out an album that you know i'm saying i
712
00:29:46.619 --> 00:29:49.900
know in my heart it's not that good you feel
713
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.529
me yeah so i put it out shit ain't do
714
00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:56.950
nothing you know i mean it wasn't really nothing crazy
715
00:29:56.970 --> 00:30:01.349
you Wasn't that good? So, you know, that kind of
716
00:30:01.660 --> 00:30:03.589
fucked me up a little bit. And I kind of
717
00:30:03.609 --> 00:30:06.730
got put on the shelf at my label. So, you know,
718
00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:10.009
even thinking from a business aspect of me owning my
719
00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:13.730
own independent label, if I put millions of dollars behind
720
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.160
this motherfucker and I make, you know what I'm saying,
721
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.059
I don't make it back, then I'm like, okay, let
722
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.900
me focus on somebody else type shit. So I feel
723
00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:24.980
him on that. But after that, I'm like, okay, let
724
00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:27.240
me go ahead, get on the ground, and start running again.
725
00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:29.059
So I just started dropping independently myself.
726
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.200
You were able to be signed and drop independent at
727
00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:32.700
the same time?
728
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.680
Yeah, because I'm under the radar at that point. They
729
00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:37.630
don't really give a fuck. You got to think about it.
730
00:30:38.789 --> 00:30:43.230
My label got fucking future DJ Khaled, 21 Savage and shit.
731
00:30:43.250 --> 00:30:46.750
They got niggas that's really making them millions of dollars.
732
00:30:46.769 --> 00:30:49.349
So I'm like, okay, I'm on the shelf, but I
733
00:30:49.390 --> 00:30:52.529
ain't finna fall off. I'm finna make this shit work, so.
734
00:30:53.210 --> 00:30:55.890
I just started dropping like once a month, kept going.
735
00:30:56.289 --> 00:31:00.869
And I just, I got one. But I dropped, I
736
00:31:00.910 --> 00:31:03.269
got a song that went gold that I dropped independently.
737
00:31:05.170 --> 00:31:05.970
It's called Arguments.
738
00:31:06.450 --> 00:31:06.670
Okay.
739
00:31:07.009 --> 00:31:09.869
It's an R & B song. But I made like,
740
00:31:10.230 --> 00:31:12.579
I signed it over to my label at some point,
741
00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:13.990
but I made like half a million on it.
742
00:31:14.619 --> 00:31:15.430
On the Calabasas one?
743
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:16.440
No, Arguments.
744
00:31:16.660 --> 00:31:17.500
Oh, okay.
745
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.759
Calabasas made a lot of money, but I signed it
746
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.230
over to the label to really... You know what I'm saying?
747
00:31:24.250 --> 00:31:24.829
Make that bitch go.
748
00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:25.369
Yeah.
749
00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:30.349
Feel me? But I dropped it independently because Blueface leaked it.
750
00:31:30.740 --> 00:31:31.720
So I was like, I got to hurry up and
751
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.279
just put it out.
752
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:33.079
Yeah.
753
00:31:33.619 --> 00:31:34.480
That shit went crazy.
754
00:31:35.460 --> 00:31:35.680
Yeah.
755
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.359
That shit went up. I go over to like Amsterdam
756
00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:41.039
and shit and they singing that motherfucker. And I didn't
757
00:31:41.059 --> 00:31:42.900
really get to experience that because I dropped it in
758
00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:45.650
a pandemic. So it's like when I dropped it, I
759
00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:47.849
didn't even know. Like I still don't feel like it's
760
00:31:47.890 --> 00:31:50.750
a huge song. until i go somewhere and i hear
761
00:31:50.769 --> 00:31:52.880
motherfucking singing it because i didn't get to go to
762
00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:56.559
the clubs and get to go performing here and there
763
00:31:56.579 --> 00:31:57.740
because we stuck.
764
00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.799
In the house have you have you toured much yeah
765
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:01.500
yeah i.
766
00:32:01.460 --> 00:32:04.500
Just i went on a tour in 2021 that was
767
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.079
my last time it's been a long time actually but
768
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.069
um i went with kevin gates yeah for three months
769
00:32:11.549 --> 00:32:13.200
we went around the whole united.
770
00:32:12.950 --> 00:32:16.779
States what's the most fun you've ever had on tour Depends.
771
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.460
I don't know. I don't really have a favorite tour moment,
772
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.359
to be honest. It's all fun.
773
00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:22.579
You've done overseas stuff, though.
774
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say that's the most fun
775
00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:28.069
I had. I did a festival tour where I went
776
00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:34.049
to different countries and shit, like Amsterdam, Portugal. Where else
777
00:32:34.069 --> 00:32:41.059
did I go? London. A bunch of weird-ass places in Europe.
778
00:32:41.789 --> 00:32:44.650
but that was it was hella fun like european audiences
779
00:32:44.710 --> 00:32:46.250
is 10 times better than the.
780
00:32:46.190 --> 00:32:48.660
U.s yeah okay this is funny because i can relate
781
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.900
to it's just in the fitness industry like you know
782
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.539
you you have things here and it seems like everyone's
783
00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:55.119
kind of like they like you but they kind of
784
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:56.569
don't like you because they kind of want to like
785
00:32:56.700 --> 00:32:59.230
be in your position and then in europe they're like
786
00:32:59.349 --> 00:33:00.529
they're just all love.
787
00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:02.670
Yeah that's the best way to put it everybody in
788
00:33:02.710 --> 00:33:05.819
that audience looking at you like I can do this.
789
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.880
He hard and shit, but I come with it. Yeah,
790
00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:10.880
I can do this shit. Yeah, they too cool. So
791
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.039
when you go to Europe, they don't give a fuck.
792
00:33:13.059 --> 00:33:14.200
They never see Americans.
793
00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:14.660
Yeah.
794
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.980
So they freaking out when they see you. They jumping up,
795
00:33:17.180 --> 00:33:20.799
energy crazy. So it's like, yeah, I like performing overseas.
796
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.500
Is there anyone that you've met as an artist or
797
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.829
a celebrity that you've been excited to meet or anyone
798
00:33:26.849 --> 00:33:28.200
that you're excited to still meet?
799
00:33:30.009 --> 00:33:30.569
I met Drake.
800
00:33:31.150 --> 00:33:32.430
Oh, that's dope. What was that like?
801
00:33:32.470 --> 00:33:33.569
That was a dope moment for me.
802
00:33:33.809 --> 00:33:34.400
Where'd you meet him at?
803
00:33:35.670 --> 00:33:38.829
I met him at Beyonce birthday party. Oh, shit.
804
00:33:39.190 --> 00:33:39.450
Yeah.
805
00:33:39.509 --> 00:33:39.930
Just like a bar.
806
00:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.319
I met everybody, bro. I didn't meet everybody at this point.
807
00:33:42.490 --> 00:33:42.690
Yeah.
808
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.359
But I never met Drake. Like, I go out and
809
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.440
I see niggas everywhere, but I never met him. And
810
00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:49.400
I'm like, bro, this is my favorite artist and shit.
811
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.339
So I just, that was my first time seeing him.
812
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.160
I'm like, damn, I got to say something to this nigga.
813
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:56.200
Yeah. So top five rappers for you?
814
00:33:56.890 --> 00:34:00.329
Top five. I would say Drake.
815
00:34:00.970 --> 00:34:01.170
Yeah.
816
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:03.839
People are going to get me butchered, but I don't
817
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.960
give a fuck. It is what it is. I ain't
818
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.489
no fake nigga. On some real shit, I didn't grow
819
00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:13.489
up listening to older rappers.
820
00:34:13.510 --> 00:34:14.769
Rob Markman, I know. They're going to be like, what
821
00:34:14.789 --> 00:34:15.409
about Tupac?
822
00:34:15.469 --> 00:34:19.269
Yeah, it's like, bro, I was born the year that
823
00:34:19.469 --> 00:34:23.090
Tupac passed. You know what I'm saying? I didn't grow
824
00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:25.969
up in that era. You feel me? So I would say.
825
00:34:27.289 --> 00:34:27.550
Drake.
826
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.360
Also, too, fuck what people are saying. People always talk shit.
827
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:32.099
Yeah, I don't give a fuck. I troll them all day.
828
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:33.860
I don't give a damn. I sit up here and
829
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.219
tell you a deal. I don't give a damn. It
830
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.940
is what it is. But nah, I would say Drake, Future,
831
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:48.420
Young Thug. Them like the top three, me, man. I
832
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.570
would say, I might miss, I'm going to miss somebody
833
00:34:51.610 --> 00:34:53.570
for sure. You say Juice?
834
00:34:54.329 --> 00:34:54.849
I like Juice.
835
00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:57.860
Yeah, Juice hard. But I'm going to put I'm going
836
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:03.409
to put, let me think, let me see. Damn. See,
837
00:35:03.489 --> 00:35:04.070
when it gets to that.
838
00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:05.190
This is when it gets dicey.
839
00:35:05.250 --> 00:35:07.170
When you get to that four and five, they're like,
840
00:35:07.210 --> 00:35:10.510
why you ain't say him? Yeah. Let me say. Let
841
00:35:10.530 --> 00:35:12.150
me see. Let me see. I would say.
842
00:35:12.170 --> 00:35:15.519
Just got to fire it. Yeah.
843
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.500
I'm going to just say it. Let me see. Because
844
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:19.760
I ain't going to lie, bro. I really listen to
845
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:20.699
myself a lot.
846
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:21.719
Oh, shit.
847
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.800
Okay. On some real shit. I ain't going to say
848
00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:26.679
me because that's lame. And motherfuckers would be like, oh,
849
00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:28.800
you didn't anybody say that. But I ain't going to
850
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.920
say me. Oh, I'm tripping. Kanye West, right?
851
00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:33.400
Yeah.
852
00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:36.119
And then I would say Gunna.
853
00:35:37.420 --> 00:35:37.880
Damn.
854
00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:39.800
I ain't going to lie. I fuck with Gunna heavy, bro.
855
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:40.820
Even after all the shit?
856
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.909
Yeah. Fuck all that, right? It ain't got nothing to
857
00:35:43.969 --> 00:35:44.309
do with me.
858
00:35:44.329 --> 00:35:47.190
Yeah. Why do you think people are so like, I mean,
859
00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:50.489
I understand this idea, but also like people are like,
860
00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:53.170
so crazy on the internet about this like snitching shit
861
00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:54.630
that it's like all of a sudden the music is
862
00:35:54.670 --> 00:35:56.769
just gone like everyone's like this music is trash.
863
00:35:56.570 --> 00:35:58.489
Now cause you don't really I don't cause you don't
864
00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:01.260
really know internally I feel like niggas that's in that
865
00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:03.980
whole situation in that case they can speak on it
866
00:36:04.539 --> 00:36:05.960
and they can say what they want to say but
867
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.820
like fans y'all niggas don't know what's going on like
868
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.019
y'all don't really know what's going on internally just like
869
00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:13.059
with my situation with the drama that's been going on
870
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.239
with me y'all don't know what's really going on so
871
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.400
it's like you can't sit here and judge off that
872
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.619
shit and I'm the type of nigga like If I
873
00:36:21.659 --> 00:36:23.920
fuck with you, I fuck with you. You know what
874
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.260
I mean? It ain't got nothing to do with me.
875
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.460
And Gunna is like a nigga that really embraced me
876
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.909
on some artist shit. When I met him, we did
877
00:36:31.969 --> 00:36:37.289
a song. It's called Elon Musk. And when I met him,
878
00:36:37.369 --> 00:36:41.389
just a real dude. You know what I mean?
879
00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:43.150
He was cool. Speaking of Elon Musk, that's the one
880
00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:44.670
guy that I really want to meet. As far as
881
00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:46.690
like a celebrity or a person. There's no one else
882
00:36:46.730 --> 00:36:47.610
really that I'm excited.
883
00:36:47.889 --> 00:36:49.900
I made a whole song about him. I tweeted at
884
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:51.800
him and everything. He never hit me back. Damn.
885
00:36:51.860 --> 00:36:54.639
Fuck that. Fuck him. Fuck him. You hit us on
886
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:55.880
Twitter too. Was it Twitter recently?
887
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.039
Nah. I dropped a song like last year.
888
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.369
You got to hit it on Twitter again, bro.
889
00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:00.960
Yeah, yeah.
890
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.039
Because he's been on that shit. He's on Twitter like
891
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:03.679
every day.
892
00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:05.780
I think I'm going to try again. I'm going to
893
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.449
try again. I'm going to just spam him and see
894
00:37:07.510 --> 00:37:08.050
if he see it.
895
00:37:08.329 --> 00:37:08.730
You should.
896
00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:10.869
I know. He had to hear it at this point though.
897
00:37:11.449 --> 00:37:12.030
I'm sure he did.
898
00:37:12.309 --> 00:37:12.630
We'll see.
899
00:37:12.889 --> 00:37:14.630
Yeah, he plays hard to get. I'd love to get
900
00:37:14.650 --> 00:37:16.190
him on the podcast, man. I know they did him
901
00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:17.820
on Full Send. They didn't have me on. They fucking
902
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:18.559
played me on that one.
903
00:37:18.780 --> 00:37:19.159
For real?
904
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:20.019
Yeah, bro.
905
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:20.820
That's crazy.
906
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:22.099
Fucked up. It's all good.
907
00:37:23.659 --> 00:37:24.019
Fuck it.
908
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.360
Yo, so you're thinking about starting a podcast?
909
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:27.420
Yeah, I am.
910
00:37:27.579 --> 00:37:27.820
Yeah.
911
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:29.500
I think I'd be a good host.
912
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.300
What would it be like around music or just around
913
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:33.079
life or?
914
00:37:34.139 --> 00:37:36.659
Just anything. Same shit you're doing.
915
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:37.000
Yeah.
916
00:37:37.019 --> 00:37:40.329
You know. Probably come up with something fun to do.
917
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.199
While I'm doing it, but I don't know. I've been
918
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.699
thinking about it. I've really been thinking hard about it.
919
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.500
I just don't want to get too deep into it
920
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:54.119
because I'm really like, I'm extremely passionate about music. So
921
00:37:54.219 --> 00:37:57.019
I kind of be holding off of doing shit like
922
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.099
auditions and shit because I know I can fuck around
923
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.639
and take off in the acting world. And it's like,
924
00:38:02.659 --> 00:38:04.699
I don't want to take away from my music yet.
925
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.619
I really want to see if I can... really make
926
00:38:08.659 --> 00:38:09.559
this shit pop.
927
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:11.639
But you would get more into acting it seems in
928
00:38:11.659 --> 00:38:12.360
the future.
929
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.960
I feel like because acting takes a lot of time
930
00:38:14.980 --> 00:38:17.920
oh yeah like just being around my girl and shit
931
00:38:17.940 --> 00:38:20.940
and just seeing how how much work that shit is
932
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.579
and like being on set for two three months in
933
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.579
the middle of nowhere you're all day all day it's
934
00:38:26.619 --> 00:38:29.559
like that shit is real work so it's like i
935
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.440
know i ain't gonna have time for no music.
936
00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:33.539
Yeah so you'd have to get them you'd have to
937
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.679
like Kind of stamp it first before you go and.
938
00:38:35.739 --> 00:38:37.599
Play over there. Yeah, I want to super stamp it
939
00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:41.070
before I start dipping and dabbing into that industry. YouTube
940
00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:43.170
is like, do that shit in my sleep.
941
00:38:43.449 --> 00:38:43.690
Yeah.
942
00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:45.849
So it's like, I don't see no point in stopping that,
943
00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:46.809
and you know what the money like.
944
00:38:47.250 --> 00:38:48.750
Yeah, YouTube's amazing, bro.
945
00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:51.219
Yeah, it's the best job in the world, so why
946
00:38:51.260 --> 00:38:52.179
the fuck would I stop?
947
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:56.360
Yeah. It's honestly a blessing, and it's crazy. This stuff, too, though,
948
00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:58.599
the podcast trips me out because it's like, I was
949
00:38:58.619 --> 00:39:01.099
talking to someone about this the other day, like, I
950
00:39:01.179 --> 00:39:03.039
literally get to sit here and like talk to people
951
00:39:03.059 --> 00:39:05.360
who are super interesting and like learn about them and
952
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.300
like share it. And then that's a way of living
953
00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:09.989
for me, which is such a crazy concept.
954
00:39:10.150 --> 00:39:10.849
Yeah, no, it's dope.
955
00:39:11.190 --> 00:39:11.969
It's really, really cool.
956
00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:13.010
You're a good host too, man.
957
00:39:13.269 --> 00:39:13.849
I appreciate it.
958
00:39:13.849 --> 00:39:14.429
Yeah, you're doing good.
959
00:39:14.469 --> 00:39:14.789
Thank you.
960
00:39:15.090 --> 00:39:15.829
Sure.
961
00:39:16.190 --> 00:39:19.230
So as far as like life and just shit in
962
00:39:19.269 --> 00:39:21.550
general outside of music, outside of like content you make,
963
00:39:21.550 --> 00:39:25.500
do you do anything that people wouldn't know that you do?
964
00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:27.699
Like like do you meditate do you focus on like
965
00:39:27.909 --> 00:39:29.719
mental health is it like do you focus on like
966
00:39:29.780 --> 00:39:31.539
physical health like are you active in the like are
967
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.219
you doing anything that people wouldn't know that you do
968
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.380
like that you don't put out on the internet like
969
00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:36.780
you crushing mushrooms and like.
970
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.380
I have started eating mushrooms i don't do it like often.
971
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.840
I do yeah yeah microdose not like crazy doses all
972
00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:44.599
the time because that's.
973
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.079
Unsustainable tweaked a couple times i ain't.
974
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.539
Gonna lie i have to Yeah, I have to.
975
00:39:49.579 --> 00:39:52.219
Bro, I done seen melted faces and everything. Bro, I
976
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.440
done seen some shit. I ain't going to lie. No,
977
00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:58.019
I have to. But it's dope, though, because, bro, I
978
00:39:58.059 --> 00:40:00.199
eat a mushroom and I get to crying and shit. Bro,
979
00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.179
I don't cry at all.
980
00:40:01.420 --> 00:40:01.679
Yeah.
981
00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:04.739
Like, I don't never cry, bro. It's like it really
982
00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:05.980
take your whole ego away.
983
00:40:06.059 --> 00:40:06.840
Yeah, it opens you up.
984
00:40:06.980 --> 00:40:10.159
Yeah, and it's like, bro, like, I ate a mushroom
985
00:40:10.219 --> 00:40:12.320
in Hawaii. I never told this story, bro. I ate
986
00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:15.949
a mushroom in Hawaii, right? And you know how mushrooms,
987
00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:19.090
you're supposed to be away. like you're supposed to be
988
00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:22.090
dolo in the cut with your homies people you love
989
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:24.489
and all that shit yeah i'm at the beach and
990
00:40:24.530 --> 00:40:26.800
it's like fans coming up to me but i'm like
991
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:32.440
tweaking bro that's a lot i felt like true like
992
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.739
i was on hollywood boulevard bro i'm like that's what
993
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.389
i'm saying bro i was tripping so i had to
994
00:40:39.429 --> 00:40:42.469
like i was low-key snapping on fans and shit on
995
00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:45.530
accident though like It wasn't even me trying to, like,
996
00:40:45.590 --> 00:40:47.840
be mean. It's just I'm tweaking out and they talking
997
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.139
about pictures and shit. And my fucking vision is everywhere. Like,
998
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.300
it was crazy, bro. And I had to, like, sit down.
999
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.139
But for some reason, like, I was feigning to be
1000
00:40:59.179 --> 00:41:02.320
in the forest. Like, you ever felt like that?
1001
00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:02.820
Yeah.
1002
00:41:02.980 --> 00:41:05.900
Bro, I was feigning to be by some trees and shit.
1003
00:41:05.940 --> 00:41:07.980
And I'm like, bro, I really need to find, like,
1004
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.460
the trees. I really need. I'm telling everybody I'm around, like, bro,
1005
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.699
please take me. To the forest. You know, you were on.
1006
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:14.400
The beach at the time.
1007
00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:14.920
Yeah.
1008
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.000
You've been to Hawaii? Yes.
1009
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:16.360
Yeah.
1010
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.409
Yeah. So you know how they forces is like.
1011
00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:19.119
Beautiful.
1012
00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:21.690
It's crazy. It looked like fucking Avatar and shit.
1013
00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:21.869
Yeah.
1014
00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:23.730
I'm on the beach at the time around a bunch
1015
00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:26.769
of people tweaking out like a motherfucker. Like I'm so uneasy.
1016
00:41:26.789 --> 00:41:29.769
This is the worst trip ever. So then I finally
1017
00:41:29.809 --> 00:41:30.530
get to leave.
1018
00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:30.909
Right.
1019
00:41:32.010 --> 00:41:34.900
And I get to a forest and bro, I felt
1020
00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:38.630
like I was in heaven. It was the craziest feeling.
1021
00:41:38.750 --> 00:41:41.489
I did not want to leave. Bro, I was in
1022
00:41:41.510 --> 00:41:43.550
the forest for like an hour, two hours. They're like,
1023
00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:46.039
come on, let's leave. I'm like, just wait. I'm just
1024
00:41:46.059 --> 00:41:50.300
trying to sit here, bro. It's crazy. I fuck with mushrooms.
1025
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.019
I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie.
1026
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.349
I fuck with this shit. It really makes you understand
1027
00:41:58.230 --> 00:42:01.050
none of this shit really matter. You know what I mean?
1028
00:42:01.429 --> 00:42:04.469
What helps you disconnect from the ego of your relationship
1029
00:42:04.489 --> 00:42:07.409
to how you think people should view you or how you're,
1030
00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:09.469
you know, like this whole idea of like, am I
1031
00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:10.650
good enough and all this shit. And it kind of
1032
00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:12.190
just makes you be like, I'm just me.
1033
00:42:12.750 --> 00:42:15.289
Facts. Just human. Like I'm just, I'm here just like
1034
00:42:15.329 --> 00:42:15.889
everybody else.
1035
00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:18.170
And the interesting thing about shrooms to me is always
1036
00:42:18.190 --> 00:42:21.849
that like, it's always how it is. You're just not,
1037
00:42:22.409 --> 00:42:24.869
your perception is not seeing it that way. And you
1038
00:42:24.949 --> 00:42:26.610
complicate it with all this other stuff. Cause like, we're
1039
00:42:26.630 --> 00:42:28.969
just in our, you know, our conscious mind going like this,
1040
00:42:29.710 --> 00:42:31.969
but with the mushrooms, it opens up the subconscious and
1041
00:42:31.989 --> 00:42:33.949
it just like allows you to just be more open
1042
00:42:34.010 --> 00:42:36.940
in general and, without all those filters of like ego
1043
00:42:36.980 --> 00:42:39.000
related to, like I said, how people view me or
1044
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.119
how you want people to view you. And it's just,
1045
00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:44.199
it just makes you more like, Oh, this is okay.
1046
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.199
And the interesting part about it, I was saying is like,
1047
00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:48.840
if you could realize that is how your life can
1048
00:42:48.989 --> 00:42:51.329
always be. It's just hard for people to make that connection.
1049
00:42:51.929 --> 00:42:53.429
And it's hard for people to let that sustain because
1050
00:42:53.469 --> 00:42:56.230
it's so easy to get caught up in the negative
1051
00:42:56.269 --> 00:42:58.190
shit or what someone's saying or like how, you know,
1052
00:42:58.349 --> 00:43:00.849
Oh my, am I good enough? And that's the real
1053
00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.000
reason why I really like mushrooms is because like over time,
1054
00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:05.829
the more that I've like experienced them and, Then the microdosing,
1055
00:43:05.869 --> 00:43:07.710
obviously I'm not saying I'm taking crazy amounts every day.
1056
00:43:07.730 --> 00:43:09.030
That's not, I don't think that's sustainable.
1057
00:43:09.070 --> 00:43:09.719
You do it every day.
1058
00:43:10.099 --> 00:43:12.980
No, no, no. So like what I'll do is typically like,
1059
00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:17.059
I'll take like 0.5 to like one for like a
1060
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.260
month and then stop for months. So I'll do it
1061
00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:22.719
like kind of just therapeutically where I'm taking like microdoses.
1062
00:43:23.250 --> 00:43:24.670
And then I'll stop. I don't take it every day
1063
00:43:24.750 --> 00:43:25.050
all the time.
1064
00:43:25.070 --> 00:43:26.630
So what did that do for you? Cause I just
1065
00:43:26.670 --> 00:43:28.050
eat the raw mushroom and shit.
1066
00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:28.409
Yeah, no.
1067
00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:29.809
So I'm doing that as well. But when I take
1068
00:43:29.829 --> 00:43:32.130
them in those amounts, I grind them up so that they're,
1069
00:43:32.309 --> 00:43:34.710
it's like an actual weighted amount. So it's very specific
1070
00:43:35.150 --> 00:43:37.190
and I'm not just taking like a bunch of mushrooms.
1071
00:43:37.809 --> 00:43:39.409
Cause I obviously have done that where I've taken like,
1072
00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:41.719
you know, 3.54 grams and I'm just like, I'm on
1073
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.380
a trip and it's like six hours and it's the
1074
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:44.920
whole day, but I'm not doing that every day. That's
1075
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.800
completely unsustainable. I'm taking the micro doses that just you
1076
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.460
get this effect, this overall sense of, you know, on
1077
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.599
the mushrooms, like when you're either coming down or coming
1078
00:43:53.659 --> 00:43:56.400
up and you're just like, oh man, everything's good. You're
1079
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.400
not all visual yet. You just feel good. And that's,
1080
00:43:59.420 --> 00:44:01.360
you kind of get that little bit of sense while
1081
00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:04.239
you're doing it. And like I said, overall, you get
1082
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.619
closer to that, that just idea, like you're able to
1083
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.650
make it more real more often than not that like
1084
00:44:10.789 --> 00:44:12.670
everything's okay. Kind of like no matter what.
1085
00:44:12.949 --> 00:44:13.150
Yeah.
1086
00:44:13.289 --> 00:44:14.510
And it kind of allows you just to be more
1087
00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:16.550
present to just kind of continue to go forward with
1088
00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:20.570
whatever you want to like achieve. Instead of complicating where
1089
00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:22.110
you're going to get to and how long it's going
1090
00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:25.400
to take and who thinks about what about this. Because
1091
00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:28.019
that's what we do. We complicate the shit out of everything.
1092
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:29.860
And it's like the people who get most success in
1093
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.320
their life are the ones who are able to focus
1094
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.380
on their shit right now and block out all the
1095
00:44:34.420 --> 00:44:37.099
noise and just go forward. And I think that's the
1096
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.239
thing that I've really gotten from it.
1097
00:44:38.659 --> 00:44:41.340
Yeah, no, I got to get into the microdosing shit.
1098
00:44:42.139 --> 00:44:43.420
Yeah, that's game changing.
1099
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.840
Yeah, I got to try it.
1100
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.360
Have you done any other psychedelics?
1101
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:48.960
Nah, I'm scared.
1102
00:44:49.420 --> 00:44:49.699
Yeah.
1103
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:50.679
I'm terrified.
1104
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:51.460
You heard of ayahuasca?
1105
00:44:51.980 --> 00:44:52.599
I heard of that, yeah.
1106
00:44:52.619 --> 00:44:53.219
Yeah, I've done that.
1107
00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:54.679
How did it make you feel?
1108
00:44:54.780 --> 00:44:56.760
That's intense.
1109
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.079
What happened? What happened to you?
1110
00:44:59.139 --> 00:45:02.289
It's... I don't even know how to... It's so different
1111
00:45:02.309 --> 00:45:04.289
because if you've never done it, it's really hard to
1112
00:45:04.329 --> 00:45:08.150
tell you what it's like. But just imagine like... I
1113
00:45:08.170 --> 00:45:09.869
guess I could relate it to mushrooms for you because
1114
00:45:09.889 --> 00:45:11.690
you have that experience. You know when... Have you ever
1115
00:45:11.710 --> 00:45:14.050
been in a mushroom trip and you're like, you're like, oh,
1116
00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:14.960
this is a little too much?
1117
00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:15.659
Mm-hmm.
1118
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.969
So imagine... Imagine you kind of like, depending on the person,
1119
00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:22.429
because like I've done it a few times now and
1120
00:45:22.650 --> 00:45:24.329
the second time was a lot more calm than the
1121
00:45:24.369 --> 00:45:26.110
first time. I think the first time I was really
1122
00:45:26.170 --> 00:45:27.869
afraid of like what was going to happen. So I
1123
00:45:27.909 --> 00:45:30.030
had this built up tension of like, is this going
1124
00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:31.829
to be too much? And like I hear all these bad,
1125
00:45:31.909 --> 00:45:33.949
crazy things and things happen to people and I'm worried
1126
00:45:33.989 --> 00:45:36.980
about all that. So when it hit me, it was
1127
00:45:37.019 --> 00:45:40.159
like everything was good. Like imagine my high was like this.
1128
00:45:40.219 --> 00:45:42.139
Everything felt like really good. And it was like, damn,
1129
00:45:42.179 --> 00:45:44.440
it's pretty good. And then it's almost like I blinked
1130
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.000
and I was up here. And it was very scary
1131
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:49.980
because I was like, well, this is way too much.
1132
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.000
It was because he didn't feel like this, like, oh,
1133
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.119
it's getting more and then it's getting less. It was like, oh,
1134
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.150
this is pretty good. And then it was like 10,000
1135
00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:00.449
out of like, you know, it was like 100 down here.
1136
00:46:00.510 --> 00:46:03.170
It's like 10,000. I was like, oh, fuck. And my
1137
00:46:03.429 --> 00:46:05.829
my brain was just like going crazy. And I like
1138
00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:07.489
took me a really like I don't even know how
1139
00:46:07.530 --> 00:46:09.650
long because your reference of time is completely gone.
1140
00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:10.570
So it's like mushrooms.
1141
00:46:10.829 --> 00:46:11.110
Yeah.
1142
00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:12.590
And so then I don't know how long I was
1143
00:46:12.610 --> 00:46:14.070
in that moment where I was like just trying to
1144
00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:16.550
calm myself down. But once I kind of did it,
1145
00:46:16.550 --> 00:46:23.849
it It's definitely the most confronting. All the things that
1146
00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:27.110
you've been stressing about, it puts it all really in
1147
00:46:27.150 --> 00:46:30.800
your face. It doesn't really allow you to look around it.
1148
00:46:31.769 --> 00:46:34.929
So you have to kind of work on those, focus
1149
00:46:34.969 --> 00:46:37.250
and think about those things and really go through them
1150
00:46:37.269 --> 00:46:38.809
and go like, well, why am I feeling this way?
1151
00:46:38.849 --> 00:46:40.949
Why do I worry about this? Why is this a problem?
1152
00:46:40.989 --> 00:46:43.320
It's okay. And you have to go through it. And
1153
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.400
it's a little bit tough because sometimes those things can
1154
00:46:46.420 --> 00:46:48.800
be really tough to go through. and you know you
1155
00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:50.880
could you could be really emotional because you're you're like
1156
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.280
forced to deal with things but i think that's why
1157
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:54.239
it's so healing.
1158
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.340
So you cry and shit oh yeah.
1159
00:46:56.860 --> 00:47:00.219
Oh yeah oh yeah bro yeah but like you get
1160
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.570
done and you're like oh fuck i needed that like
1161
00:47:03.590 --> 00:47:04.670
in your perspective did it.
1162
00:47:04.630 --> 00:47:07.090
Change you a little bit yeah in a good way
1163
00:47:07.289 --> 00:47:09.190
yeah yeah definitely man.
1164
00:47:09.210 --> 00:47:11.449
I might fuck with it i might do it yeah
1165
00:47:11.510 --> 00:47:13.690
it's supposed to be scary yeah you know it's not
1166
00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:15.940
it's like those things it's like like everything that's tough
1167
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.519
in our lives, obviously we know the shit that makes
1168
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.840
us better. The shit that when it's tough, like we
1169
00:47:19.860 --> 00:47:21.460
fucking spend time, we get through it, we get.
1170
00:47:21.380 --> 00:47:24.400
Better, we grow. How do we like, like how do
1171
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:24.880
you take it?
1172
00:47:26.860 --> 00:47:29.760
So it's like a plant that they like, like a root,
1173
00:47:29.809 --> 00:47:31.929
a plant that they basically cook down into like a,
1174
00:47:32.070 --> 00:47:34.769
kind of like a viscous, like a shot almost. Like
1175
00:47:34.789 --> 00:47:37.230
you can drink it in different, you know, different types
1176
00:47:37.269 --> 00:47:40.570
of containers, but it's basically like a thicker liquid. And
1177
00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:41.530
it doesn't taste too good.
1178
00:47:42.250 --> 00:47:43.190
That sounds scary.
1179
00:47:43.530 --> 00:47:46.090
But it's like, It's dope, man. You got to do
1180
00:47:46.110 --> 00:47:47.630
it in the right setting. You don't do it with
1181
00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:49.570
like a Taito or a shaman, someone who's actually like
1182
00:47:49.630 --> 00:47:51.530
putting you through it. You're not just like drinking it
1183
00:47:51.570 --> 00:47:54.090
with your boys, chilling, you know, because the whole ceremony
1184
00:47:54.110 --> 00:47:54.730
will be done.
1185
00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:57.369
So what they do when you're tweaking out with the
1186
00:47:57.389 --> 00:47:58.139
shaman doing shit?
1187
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.039
It's okay.
1188
00:48:00.300 --> 00:48:02.539
Did he take it with you? No. Yeah, he did.
1189
00:48:02.900 --> 00:48:03.019
Okay.
1190
00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:04.880
Yeah, they did. So they're kind of like on the
1191
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.559
same page. Obviously, like, because I talked to him prior.
1192
00:48:08.579 --> 00:48:10.199
I'm like, hey, this is where I'm at. So he
1193
00:48:10.219 --> 00:48:12.349
kind of probably had some idea of like how I
1194
00:48:12.389 --> 00:48:15.070
might react. how I've reacted to other things in the past.
1195
00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:17.489
So like they kind of aware, like, you know, I
1196
00:48:17.510 --> 00:48:19.170
guess I, the thing that I remember him saying was like,
1197
00:48:20.030 --> 00:48:22.449
you wanted this. And it was true. Like, this is
1198
00:48:22.489 --> 00:48:23.929
what I was coming to do was to try to
1199
00:48:23.969 --> 00:48:25.489
deal with this, was try to get through those things
1200
00:48:25.530 --> 00:48:28.039
in my life that I've like held on to. So
1201
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.599
you gotta go to do it. Like you could do,
1202
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.480
I did it privately. So I had someone just come
1203
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:33.159
here and do it with me.
1204
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:34.659
You did it at the crib.
1205
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:35.079
Yeah.
1206
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:35.739
Damn.
1207
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:36.059
Yeah.
1208
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.000
So you can just do it privately.
1209
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:38.360
Your vision be fucked up.
1210
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:39.000
Your what?
1211
00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:39.659
Your vision.
1212
00:48:40.940 --> 00:48:42.880
Uh, it does, it does give you visuals, but it's, it's,
1213
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.719
It's not as intense. Mushrooms are a little more intense,
1214
00:48:45.780 --> 00:48:47.820
I would say, visuals. It's more like you close your
1215
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:53.579
eyes and you're like, you're seeing stuff. Like, it's crazy, bro.
1216
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.199
Oh, my God. You'd love it, dude. Yeah, I ate
1217
00:48:56.219 --> 00:48:57.079
mushrooms at night.
1218
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.800
You ate mushrooms at night? That shit keeps you up then.
1219
00:49:00.409 --> 00:49:03.389
Yeah, I was up all night. Literally all night. But
1220
00:49:03.469 --> 00:49:05.130
I was like seeing shit.
1221
00:49:05.969 --> 00:49:07.150
Like recently? Have you done it recently?
1222
00:49:08.429 --> 00:49:10.900
Probably like three months ago. Something like that. Two, three
1223
00:49:10.900 --> 00:49:13.650
months ago. But yeah, I was seeing shit, bro. Like.
1224
00:49:13.650 --> 00:49:16.690
But it's cool, like I'm more comfortable with mushrooms yeah
1225
00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:18.429
so I don't know yeah I might.
1226
00:49:18.309 --> 00:49:19.710
Try that shit I mean if you could do that
1227
00:49:19.750 --> 00:49:21.679
you could do this it's just like knowing that it's
1228
00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:25.019
just different it's completely different but the outcome is like
1229
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.340
it's greater for sure yeah.
1230
00:49:28.260 --> 00:49:30.599
I'll fuck with like the natural shit you know like
1231
00:49:30.659 --> 00:49:33.760
plants and fucking mushrooms and shit I ain't gonna I
1232
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.860
never did like no crazy like chemical drugs yeah no
1233
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.000
I'm not a fan i ain't trying to get fried
1234
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:40.760
out here you know.
1235
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.800
No no no fuck no bro those i mean there's
1236
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.059
so many drugs that are just like i like psychedelics
1237
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.659
i like that like you said the plant medicine this
1238
00:49:46.699 --> 00:49:49.409
kind of stuff is nice but yeah the you know
1239
00:49:49.909 --> 00:49:53.269
cocaine hair all this other shit's insane.
1240
00:49:52.269 --> 00:49:54.130
People get fried like a motherfucker ruin.
1241
00:49:53.989 --> 00:49:55.670
Their life with that shit that's what i'm saying well
1242
00:49:55.690 --> 00:49:56.030
did you.
1243
00:49:55.949 --> 00:50:00.590
Drink yeah i don't drink like that recently i haven't
1244
00:50:00.909 --> 00:50:02.710
taken i have a little drink here and there yeah
1245
00:50:02.769 --> 00:50:04.250
but i kind of got into the wine i'm with
1246
00:50:04.269 --> 00:50:07.619
my grown man shit now I'll be drinking red wine
1247
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:08.760
and shit now. It's cool.
1248
00:50:08.940 --> 00:50:11.320
I don't know why people... Fuck, wine? Okay, I like
1249
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.369
wine sometimes, but I'm 33, and I still don't really like...
1250
00:50:15.389 --> 00:50:16.150
I can't get into it.
1251
00:50:16.190 --> 00:50:17.690
I'm trying to tell you, bro. Next time you go
1252
00:50:17.730 --> 00:50:19.610
out to dinner, get some red wine, just ask for
1253
00:50:19.630 --> 00:50:22.590
the sweetest they got. They're going to bring you some shit.
1254
00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:27.030
Just drink it. You know what I'm saying? You just
1255
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:29.909
feel it. You just feel like you're doing something. It
1256
00:50:29.929 --> 00:50:34.800
feels more classy than liquor. It feels cleaner. And you
1257
00:50:34.900 --> 00:50:35.599
don't get headaches.
1258
00:50:36.699 --> 00:50:38.409
Well, I used to get bad. I mean, when I
1259
00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:41.010
was younger, well, when I drink, I probably drank too
1260
00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.230
much when I was younger. I shouldn't have been drinking it.
1261
00:50:43.230 --> 00:50:45.329
Because I feel like the sulfates in wine will give
1262
00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:45.769
you headaches.
1263
00:50:46.349 --> 00:50:48.829
Yeah, but you drink a couple glasses of some good wine,
1264
00:50:49.469 --> 00:50:52.190
you'd be straight. Wine is low-key better than liquor.
1265
00:50:52.250 --> 00:50:54.070
But you were just in Italy, and I feel like
1266
00:50:54.090 --> 00:50:56.239
the wine there is better because there's no preservatives there.
1267
00:50:56.420 --> 00:50:58.559
So you're probably feeling it out there, like, this is dope.
1268
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.099
No, I drink, but I drink wine even before that.
1269
00:51:01.300 --> 00:51:01.880
Oh, out here?
1270
00:51:01.900 --> 00:51:04.820
Yeah, I've been drinking wine. So, well, I just started, like,
1271
00:51:05.550 --> 00:51:08.260
few months ago type shit, but it's like I fuck
1272
00:51:08.300 --> 00:51:10.900
with it better than liquor. It just feels better.
1273
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.780
So your girl makes music too, right? Would you guys
1274
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:16.840
ever make music together?
1275
00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:21.619
Yeah, we have before. But she ain't got no solo
1276
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:25.610
music out. So once her solo music come out, you know,
1277
00:51:26.489 --> 00:51:27.769
probably make some shit together.
1278
00:51:28.170 --> 00:51:29.449
Is she working on that kind of stuff too?
1279
00:51:29.889 --> 00:51:32.630
Yeah, she got some fire ass music. I think she
1280
00:51:32.650 --> 00:51:36.360
gonna be One of the biggest artists in the world. Really?
1281
00:51:36.570 --> 00:51:37.159
For sure, 100%. 100%.
1282
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:37.650
Damn.
1283
00:51:38.409 --> 00:51:40.889
On some Adele shit.
1284
00:51:41.309 --> 00:51:41.769
Really?
1285
00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:42.570
That's massive.
1286
00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:45.349
I ain't going to lie. I'm not even being biased.
1287
00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:48.030
I tell her this all the time. Your shit is
1288
00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:52.349
next level. Because she can really sing. I can harmonize
1289
00:51:52.409 --> 00:51:54.349
and shit. You throw a little auto-tune on me and shit.
1290
00:51:54.369 --> 00:51:55.010
You know what I'm saying?
1291
00:51:55.289 --> 00:51:55.550
Yeah, yeah.
1292
00:51:55.610 --> 00:51:57.739
I can get a gold record. I can do my shit.
1293
00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:59.860
She can sing acapella?
1294
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:00.659
Yeah.
1295
00:52:00.780 --> 00:52:02.559
She can sing. Sing, sing.
1296
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:02.940
Damn.
1297
00:52:03.570 --> 00:52:04.110
It's crazy.
1298
00:52:05.510 --> 00:52:08.780
No, her shit is going to be next level. I'm excited.
1299
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.199
Yeah, that's cool. That's really cool. And it seems like
1300
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.900
once you conquer this music stuff more, you probably want
1301
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.619
to get into acting, like you were saying earlier.
1302
00:52:16.820 --> 00:52:17.619
Yeah.
1303
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:18.840
What roles would you do?
1304
00:52:19.420 --> 00:52:21.820
I want to do a horror movie so bad. That's
1305
00:52:21.860 --> 00:52:24.179
like my bucket list.
1306
00:52:24.300 --> 00:52:24.820
Why?
1307
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.199
I don't know. I want to be in like a
1308
00:52:27.260 --> 00:52:29.000
Jordan Peele horror film.
1309
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:30.099
Like Nobbers?
1310
00:52:30.139 --> 00:52:33.000
Crazy. Yeah, like some crazy shit like that. I know
1311
00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:35.320
how I kill it too. I know it'd be a
1312
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.400
big deal because everybody that knows of me or know
1313
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.239
me will be like, damn, this motherfucker really acting this bitch.
1314
00:52:41.260 --> 00:52:43.440
You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of like
1315
00:52:43.500 --> 00:52:44.920
what I want to do. I want to get into
1316
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.059
a horror film, maybe some comedy or something. I don't know.
1317
00:52:49.139 --> 00:52:49.340
Yeah.
1318
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:51.519
I've always liked to ask people this who like have,
1319
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.360
have like really great success and who've done things and
1320
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.099
you've done a lot of things like that. You just like,
1321
00:52:56.139 --> 00:52:58.039
you wanted to do them and you did them and
1322
00:52:58.059 --> 00:53:00.989
you just keep going. Did you, before you did all
1323
00:53:01.010 --> 00:53:03.920
of this stuff, Did you believe, like, when you were
1324
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.019
younger before you had any, or you were even close
1325
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.239
to doing this, that, like, there was more for you? Like,
1326
00:53:08.260 --> 00:53:09.059
did you have that sense?
1327
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:10.420
What do you mean?
1328
00:53:10.500 --> 00:53:13.719
Like, did you believe that, I don't know, like, I
1329
00:53:13.739 --> 00:53:16.150
remember being younger and thinking, like, damn, I don't want to, like,
1330
00:53:16.829 --> 00:53:19.269
do normal shit. Like, I want to do something great.
1331
00:53:19.309 --> 00:53:21.349
I want to try to do something different. Like, did
1332
00:53:21.369 --> 00:53:22.530
you have that sense of yourself?
1333
00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:26.530
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like, when I was younger, I
1334
00:53:27.610 --> 00:53:30.889
used to have a job. A lot of people haven't worked.
1335
00:53:31.019 --> 00:53:31.739
You worked a job before?
1336
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:32.820
Yeah, I have.
1337
00:53:33.019 --> 00:53:36.969
Yeah, yeah. So I used to work TJ Maxx, Kroger's,
1338
00:53:37.929 --> 00:53:40.670
worked those jobs. And just working there, it's just like,
1339
00:53:40.730 --> 00:53:43.530
I know this ain't it. I know this can't be like.
1340
00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:45.369
Yeah, I was working at Quiznos.
1341
00:53:45.469 --> 00:53:48.630
Yeah, bro. Like, I know I ain't finna be putting
1342
00:53:48.670 --> 00:53:51.880
these sensors on these clothes for the rest of my life.
1343
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.699
You know? And it's like, I'm not finna be in
1344
00:53:53.739 --> 00:53:55.840
no cash year all my life. And I just feel like,
1345
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.500
I don't know. I feel like nine to fives is
1346
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.349
the easy way out in a way. Cause it takes
1347
00:54:02.389 --> 00:54:04.530
a lot to get to this point that I'm at,
1348
00:54:04.570 --> 00:54:07.019
that you at, you know, it takes a lot of creativity.
1349
00:54:07.659 --> 00:54:09.360
You know, you really own boss type shit.
1350
00:54:09.539 --> 00:54:09.739
Yeah.
1351
00:54:09.900 --> 00:54:11.619
So it's like, you really got to switch your mindset
1352
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:13.739
versus a nine to five and you got it all
1353
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.900
set there for you. All right. Pull up this time,
1354
00:54:15.940 --> 00:54:16.840
do this and that.
1355
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:17.239
Yeah.
1356
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.800
And it's like, you know, you, you're not really thinking
1357
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.260
for yourself for real. You just put, you just showing
1358
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.360
up and doing what you told to do, which is,
1359
00:54:24.510 --> 00:54:29.469
I feel like it's easier than creating your own, path
1360
00:54:29.510 --> 00:54:30.710
and your own wave and shit.
1361
00:54:30.949 --> 00:54:31.360
Of course.
1362
00:54:32.139 --> 00:54:35.000
I don't know. Just working at those jobs, I just
1363
00:54:35.019 --> 00:54:38.440
knew that wasn't it. I just knew I wanted to
1364
00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:40.639
do more. Even when I went to college, before I
1365
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.559
got to college, I knew I wasn't going to finish.
1366
00:54:44.610 --> 00:54:48.010
I went to college just because I wanted to go
1367
00:54:48.050 --> 00:54:50.230
to college and experience it. My homies was going to
1368
00:54:50.269 --> 00:54:52.630
college and shit. I'm like, let me go freshman year,
1369
00:54:52.670 --> 00:54:54.590
which I don't regret because that's really how I blew
1370
00:54:54.690 --> 00:54:58.809
up in college. It's like, I just wanted to gain
1371
00:54:58.849 --> 00:55:01.539
those social skills. And then, but in the back of
1372
00:55:01.579 --> 00:55:03.059
my head, I knew I wasn't going to stay there.
1373
00:55:03.860 --> 00:55:05.039
Like, what did you think you were going to do
1374
00:55:05.099 --> 00:55:05.679
before at all?
1375
00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:09.960
I just knew like, so my first YouTube check was
1376
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.659
$ 200 when I was working at TJ Maxx. Soon as
1377
00:55:12.699 --> 00:55:13.530
I got that, I quit.
1378
00:55:14.429 --> 00:55:15.869
You're like, this is it. I made it.
1379
00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:19.570
Cause I'm like, if I can make $ 200 doing a
1380
00:55:19.630 --> 00:55:22.519
fucking video, that means I can make 2000. Yeah. If
1381
00:55:22.539 --> 00:55:24.360
I can make $ 2, 000, that means I can make $ 20, 000.
1382
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.380
If I make $ 20, 000, I can make $ 200, 000. You know
1383
00:55:26.420 --> 00:55:28.699
what I'm saying? So I'm just thinking like that. I'm like,
1384
00:55:29.300 --> 00:55:31.599
if I really quit this shit that I'm working eight
1385
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.920
hours at and put all my time into this video shit,
1386
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:36.539
I know I can take this to the next level.
1387
00:55:37.099 --> 00:55:39.699
So I went from $ 200 to $ 700 in my next check,
1388
00:55:40.230 --> 00:55:41.750
and it just went up from there. So I'm in
1389
00:55:41.809 --> 00:55:46.369
college making $ 700 freshman year, a month, then it got
1390
00:55:46.389 --> 00:55:49.489
to $ 1, 000. That's a lot in college. I ain't gonna lie.
1391
00:55:50.090 --> 00:55:53.570
It sounds very little now, but In college where your
1392
00:55:53.610 --> 00:55:56.489
shit really paid for, obviously you're taking out loans and shit,
1393
00:55:56.510 --> 00:56:00.590
but that's $ 1, 000 I'm just putting in my pocket. So
1394
00:56:00.630 --> 00:56:03.250
it's like, I don't know. It got to a point
1395
00:56:03.289 --> 00:56:06.590
where I don't know how to explain it for real.
1396
00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:08.739
So my question to you about this is, why do
1397
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.800
you think people have so much fear around like foregoing
1398
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.780
the traditional like nine to five or foregoing like, you know,
1399
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.309
that job that's stable to try something that like, probably
1400
00:56:19.329 --> 00:56:21.210
a lot of them really want to do because that's
1401
00:56:21.230 --> 00:56:22.670
the thing a lot of people watch this content a
1402
00:56:22.670 --> 00:56:24.550
lot of people watch these these podcasts and just stuff
1403
00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:26.739
in general and they a lot of people like i
1404
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.340
think i don't know if it's like 80 percent of
1405
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.619
people now want to be like a social creator like
1406
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.559
they want to be on the internet somehow but why
1407
00:56:32.579 --> 00:56:34.019
do you think people are so afraid to take that
1408
00:56:34.059 --> 00:56:36.199
leap and why were you not afraid like for you
1409
00:56:36.219 --> 00:56:38.340
to go two hundred dollars i'm good i'm if i
1410
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.159
can do 200 i can make this like i understand
1411
00:56:40.179 --> 00:56:42.519
what you're saying but to take the leap though away
1412
00:56:42.579 --> 00:56:45.360
from something that's like solid to be like fuck it
1413
00:56:45.380 --> 00:56:48.039
i'm just gonna try it like Why do you think
1414
00:56:48.059 --> 00:56:50.159
it's hard for people to get that mentality? Because more
1415
00:56:50.179 --> 00:56:51.619
people go, well, this is safe.
1416
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.980
Yeah, people too safe. That's what I feel like. I
1417
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:58.469
feel like people that say, oh, this is solid, they
1418
00:56:58.510 --> 00:57:01.989
playing it too safe. And you feel like, oh, I
1419
00:57:02.030 --> 00:57:03.769
got to make sure I can pay my bills and
1420
00:57:03.809 --> 00:57:06.050
I can do this and that. You got motherfuckers that
1421
00:57:06.889 --> 00:57:11.800
spend every dollar that they got to fucking follow a dream.
1422
00:57:11.860 --> 00:57:13.860
You know what I mean? And then it's a hit
1423
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.519
or miss. If you hit, you good type shit. So
1424
00:57:16.539 --> 00:57:19.179
it's like, I feel like just people is not risky enough.
1425
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.320
I was very risky. Like I'm like, okay, I'm going
1426
00:57:23.340 --> 00:57:24.519
to quit this, this job.
1427
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:25.619
Why do you think you were risky?
1428
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:29.460
I just wanted more. Like, I just, I just didn't
1429
00:57:29.500 --> 00:57:32.739
want to live like that. Like Pontiac, Michigan is like,
1430
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.820
we don't even have a mall. Like it's, it's a
1431
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.679
very small city and it's like, you know, it's the hood.
1432
00:57:38.940 --> 00:57:42.699
You feel me? It's like, it's, it ain't nowhere that
1433
00:57:42.739 --> 00:57:44.909
you really want to be. And then when I was younger,
1434
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.099
In 2014, my brother passed. So it's like that kind
1435
00:57:49.139 --> 00:57:52.300
of really put shit in perspective for me. I'm like, damn,
1436
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.429
like I can't fucking, can't live like this. You know
1437
00:57:55.449 --> 00:57:56.400
what I mean? I'm not going to.
1438
00:57:56.869 --> 00:57:57.449
How did he pass?
1439
00:57:58.590 --> 00:57:58.869
You know?
1440
00:57:59.030 --> 00:57:59.230
Yeah.
1441
00:57:59.530 --> 00:58:01.969
Yeah. So it's like, it is what it is.
1442
00:58:03.010 --> 00:58:05.449
So that made you feel like I got to figure
1443
00:58:05.469 --> 00:58:05.829
this out?
1444
00:58:06.349 --> 00:58:09.219
Yeah. Yeah. That kind of really put some fire into me.
1445
00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:11.440
Like that really put me in position to really start
1446
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:16.570
going up. Because it was like, I'm like, man. this
1447
00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:18.190
could be me, you know what I mean? Like if
1448
00:58:18.289 --> 00:58:20.349
I fuck around and just stay here and you know
1449
00:58:20.369 --> 00:58:21.989
what I'm saying, I could fuck around and just get
1450
00:58:22.050 --> 00:58:24.469
stuck in this city. There's a lot of motherfuckers that
1451
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:26.500
I grew up with, went to high school with, they
1452
00:58:26.539 --> 00:58:29.920
still doing the same shit. It's like, I don't know
1453
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:30.699
how niggas do it.
1454
00:58:30.780 --> 00:58:32.920
It's just- That's the question, right? That's the thing I'm
1455
00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:35.880
trying to figure out. And obviously to inspire people, if
1456
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.340
they see this, to think that they can do it
1457
00:58:37.380 --> 00:58:39.780
as well. Why do you think there are certain people
1458
00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:43.460
who just say, because even your circumstances and saying, seeing
1459
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.519
and experiencing what you experienced and being like, I don't
1460
00:58:45.539 --> 00:58:46.920
want this to be my life. I want to move
1461
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.449
away from this. And you were in it, but now
1462
00:58:49.469 --> 00:58:52.869
you're not. Completely different circumstances because you made that decision.
1463
00:58:53.250 --> 00:58:55.530
Why do you think it's hard for people to just
1464
00:58:55.570 --> 00:58:56.909
understand that they can do it too?
1465
00:58:56.929 --> 00:58:59.889
I don't know, man. I just feel like people are
1466
00:58:59.909 --> 00:59:02.489
just not risky enough. People don't believe in themselves. I
1467
00:59:02.530 --> 00:59:05.889
feel like it starts with you believing in yourself. It
1468
00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:08.289
starts with you really saying, okay, I can do this shit.
1469
00:59:08.349 --> 00:59:09.409
I can do the impossible.
1470
00:59:09.889 --> 00:59:09.969
Yeah.
1471
00:59:10.010 --> 00:59:12.780
Know what I mean so it's like I don't know
1472
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.159
it's a whole it's a mental thing where you really
1473
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.480
gotta just sit down and be like okay I wanna
1474
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:20.760
I wanna make it to the millions you know what
1475
00:59:20.780 --> 00:59:21.400
I mean I feel like.
1476
00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:23.460
There's just some people that just aren't different.
1477
00:59:23.420 --> 00:59:26.820
Yeah they just two people too safe that's what it
1478
00:59:26.940 --> 00:59:29.670
is that's what it is like Motherfuckers wait for you
1479
00:59:29.710 --> 00:59:31.219
to do it, and then they want to do it.
1480
00:59:31.219 --> 00:59:32.489
They don't want to be the first to do it.
1481
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:35.699
I was the first to do it, especially from my city,
1482
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:38.900
from my whole family. I was the first to do it.
1483
00:59:38.940 --> 00:59:42.809
And then after I did it, my family started doing it.
1484
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.000
So it's like that's how I did it. I feel
1485
00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:48.480
like when you're the first to do something, you get
1486
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.599
the best of it type shit.
1487
00:59:51.739 --> 00:59:52.059
I see.
1488
00:59:52.619 --> 00:59:52.880
Yeah.
1489
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:53.579
That makes sense.
1490
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.360
So I'm in a good position right now because I
1491
00:59:56.409 --> 00:59:57.050
started this shit.
1492
00:59:58.219 --> 01:00:01.630
And you love it more than even when you started it? Like,
1493
01:00:01.650 --> 01:00:03.230
you still have the same passion for, like, all this
1494
01:00:03.269 --> 01:00:05.630
content creation, music, everything? Or has it.
1495
01:00:05.630 --> 01:00:08.449
Changed at all? My passion really lies with music. I'm
1496
01:00:08.489 --> 01:00:10.710
not going to lie. Like, that's really what my real
1497
01:00:10.789 --> 01:00:15.480
passion is. But I love doing YouTube for the person
1498
01:00:15.500 --> 01:00:17.340
that's watching right now. They want to do it, too.
1499
01:00:17.619 --> 01:00:20.940
You know what I'm saying? They want to get inspired. Like,
1500
01:00:20.980 --> 01:00:24.380
I do a lot of inspirational, motivational talk in between
1501
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.940
my vlogs and shit. And it's a lot of people
1502
01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:28.449
that come up to me and be like, bro, you
1503
01:00:28.469 --> 01:00:31.530
changed my life, bro. Like, man, I just made a
1504
01:00:31.550 --> 01:00:33.889
million dollars, bro. I made my first million dollars now.
1505
01:00:33.929 --> 01:00:35.929
You know what I'm saying? Like, people that really grow
1506
01:00:36.010 --> 01:00:39.010
up watching me and shit. And that's what I really, like,
1507
01:00:39.230 --> 01:00:41.440
enjoy from it at this point. Like, you know, the
1508
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:45.500
money great, obviously. But it's like, that's where I really,
1509
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.559
you know what I'm saying? That's where the real enjoyment
1510
01:00:48.579 --> 01:00:49.000
come from.
1511
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:53.219
Yeah, I get it. A couple more things before you go.
1512
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:57.340
But what's with this, like, Voice. Is it fake? It's
1513
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:57.900
a fake voice.
1514
01:00:58.500 --> 01:00:58.840
Nah.
1515
01:00:59.059 --> 01:01:01.000
Nah, it ain't fake.
1516
01:01:01.019 --> 01:01:03.599
But it's like clearly a fake voice.
1517
01:01:03.619 --> 01:01:03.920
Nah.
1518
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.440
You gotta tell the truth, bro. It's not your real voice.
1519
01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:09.500
It is, though. That's the crazy part. Yeah, that's my
1520
01:01:09.539 --> 01:01:09.780
real voice.
1521
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:11.949
It's good voice control. It's actually really impressive.
1522
01:01:12.309 --> 01:01:14.670
Yeah, a lot of people think it's like edits and shit,
1523
01:01:14.710 --> 01:01:15.309
but it's real.
1524
01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:16.130
You feel me?
1525
01:01:16.150 --> 01:01:19.050
So it's like, I don't know. I just get insecure
1526
01:01:19.090 --> 01:01:21.510
about the shit. Yeah. I don't really like talking about
1527
01:01:21.550 --> 01:01:21.969
it too much.
1528
01:01:22.050 --> 01:01:22.309
Okay.
1529
01:01:22.590 --> 01:01:24.510
So you use the regular voice just because it's more like.
1530
01:01:24.739 --> 01:01:25.320
It's more like.
1531
01:01:25.650 --> 01:01:25.869
Yeah.
1532
01:01:25.889 --> 01:01:28.889
It's like more applicable. How you say it? Applicable.
1533
01:01:29.130 --> 01:01:29.710
Yeah.
1534
01:01:29.750 --> 01:01:32.699
More relatable. Yeah, it's like, it's cool. I make music
1535
01:01:32.739 --> 01:01:34.820
in his voice, but like, if I was to like.
1536
01:01:35.460 --> 01:01:39.179
Really use this voice, motherfuckers would be like, that don't
1537
01:01:39.219 --> 01:01:39.940
even match him.
1538
01:01:40.219 --> 01:01:40.659
You feel me?
1539
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:43.289
So I don't really like using it for real. I
1540
01:01:43.329 --> 01:01:46.539
just say, yeah, I keep that shit tucked. I don't
1541
01:01:46.579 --> 01:01:48.840
really like showing people, but I fuck with you, so
1542
01:01:48.900 --> 01:01:49.260
I'm going.
1543
01:01:49.139 --> 01:01:52.780
To use it. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, man. Yo,
1544
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.260
did you get any audience questions from Natalie?
1545
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:55.400
Oh, nice.
1546
01:01:55.539 --> 01:01:59.420
You sent them to me? All right, so at the
1547
01:01:59.460 --> 01:02:04.099
end of every episode, we got questions from the viewers.
1548
01:02:04.139 --> 01:02:07.130
So we're going to do three real quick. And if
1549
01:02:07.139 --> 01:02:08.760
you guys want to send your questions, you can send
1550
01:02:08.780 --> 01:02:11.949
them at askrowtalk at gmail.com. We appreciate the love. So
1551
01:02:12.630 --> 01:02:14.710
this guy said, I'm 22, and I've been in a
1552
01:02:14.730 --> 01:02:18.760
relationship for nine months. And my girlfriend is great and amazing,
1553
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.780
but I feel like something's missing. She's super loyal. My
1554
01:02:22.820 --> 01:02:25.460
family loves her. She loves working out and eating healthy.
1555
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:28.550
Even with all that, I still feel empty and don't
1556
01:02:28.570 --> 01:02:30.230
know whether I should stick it out and try to
1557
01:02:30.289 --> 01:02:32.869
work things out or to move on. I feel bad
1558
01:02:32.889 --> 01:02:35.389
because she is the sweetest person you'll ever meet and
1559
01:02:35.449 --> 01:02:41.610
hasn't done anything wrong. That's dismal. That's so dismal, bro.
1560
01:02:43.929 --> 01:02:47.179
I mean, you're 22. It honestly sounds like you're not
1561
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.159
that interested. That's what that sounds like.
1562
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.659
Nah, I think he... I think he on some shit
1563
01:02:53.699 --> 01:02:55.760
where he want to focus on himself.
1564
01:02:57.179 --> 01:02:57.670
Yeah, I mean.
1565
01:02:57.849 --> 01:02:59.809
That's what I think the underlying problem is.
1566
01:03:00.269 --> 01:03:01.050
Based on what he's saying?
1567
01:03:01.349 --> 01:03:03.230
Yeah, I feel like he probably not in the position
1568
01:03:03.269 --> 01:03:05.070
he is where he want to be in life.
1569
01:03:05.130 --> 01:03:05.929
Yeah, he 22.
1570
01:03:05.929 --> 01:03:09.250
Yeah, he feel like he finna fuck around, get married
1571
01:03:09.289 --> 01:03:10.670
type shit, and he ain't ready for that.
1572
01:03:11.190 --> 01:03:12.650
I mean, I don't really know. It didn't really... There's
1573
01:03:12.670 --> 01:03:14.269
not really a question here. It's like he was just
1574
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:17.579
kind of saying... There was no question mark. It was
1575
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.579
just kind of like, this is what's happening. I mean,
1576
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:21.639
at the end of the day, man, you got to
1577
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.300
follow your heart. Like, if you feel like it's not
1578
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:27.860
for you or it's not going to work now, then, bro,
1579
01:03:27.900 --> 01:03:30.039
I mean, move on. Maybe if you could revisit it later,
1580
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:33.199
revisit it later. But sometimes giving things time to, like,
1581
01:03:33.889 --> 01:03:36.489
to cook for yourself can make more sense if you're
1582
01:03:36.510 --> 01:03:38.630
going to come back into a relationship. But, I mean,
1583
01:03:38.690 --> 01:03:39.510
at 22, it's hard to.
1584
01:03:39.849 --> 01:03:40.869
That's very young, though.
1585
01:03:40.889 --> 01:03:41.090
Yeah.
1586
01:03:41.769 --> 01:03:42.230
Super young.
1587
01:03:42.630 --> 01:03:42.889
Yeah.
1588
01:03:43.409 --> 01:03:44.369
Do what you want to do, man.
1589
01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:45.510
Yeah.
1590
01:03:45.889 --> 01:03:46.530
Okay, so I got another one.
1591
01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:48.269
All right.
1592
01:03:48.309 --> 01:03:49.829
Hey, Brad and listener.
1593
01:03:50.590 --> 01:03:50.949
Listener.
1594
01:03:52.449 --> 01:03:54.489
Long time pod listener. Huge supporter of the brand. Keep
1595
01:03:54.530 --> 01:03:57.139
it up. My question is pretty basic, but it seems complicated.
1596
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.719
I'll be 22 soon and recently, 22 year olds, and
1597
01:04:00.739 --> 01:04:02.280
recently went out to a club and met a girl.
1598
01:04:02.340 --> 01:04:05.659
This is getting good. Okay. Not the best place to
1599
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:07.260
meet a girl. Before I read the rest of this,
1600
01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:10.380
I'll say that first off. Our friends kind of put
1601
01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:13.219
us together and we did end up hooking up that night. Okay.
1602
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:18.550
We exchanged socials. and we've been talking very lightly ever since. However,
1603
01:04:18.590 --> 01:04:21.409
she lives a few hours away from me during the
1604
01:04:21.469 --> 01:04:24.489
college semester, but lives fairly close to me when she's
1605
01:04:24.530 --> 01:04:26.769
back home. My question is, how do I keep a
1606
01:04:26.809 --> 01:04:30.030
conversation going with her even though there isn't too much
1607
01:04:30.090 --> 01:04:32.590
to talk about? I don't want to be overbearing with
1608
01:04:32.650 --> 01:04:36.599
questions to her, but I also want to keep her invested,
1609
01:04:37.099 --> 01:04:39.940
and I can't tell if she is yet. Neither do
1610
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.429
I want to ask questions the wrong one and be
1611
01:04:45.469 --> 01:04:47.469
her dry. What the fuck? Neither do I want to
1612
01:04:47.570 --> 01:04:51.389
ask the wrong one and her be dry. Oh, he's
1613
01:04:51.409 --> 01:04:52.829
talking about questions. He don't want her to be dry.
1614
01:04:53.329 --> 01:04:56.179
So this guy's just asking for game right now. So
1615
01:04:56.219 --> 01:04:58.380
he's 22. He met a girl at the club. They
1616
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.239
hooked up that night and he's trying to figure out
1617
01:05:00.260 --> 01:05:02.579
how to keep her engaged. Like with him as far
1618
01:05:02.619 --> 01:05:05.320
as like, and she lives two hours away.
1619
01:05:05.860 --> 01:05:06.579
She in college?
1620
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:09.110
Yeah, they must be. They're probably around the same age,
1621
01:05:09.179 --> 01:05:09.510
I'd say.
1622
01:05:09.619 --> 01:05:13.469
So she's in college and he isn't or what?
1623
01:05:13.989 --> 01:05:14.849
I think he is as well.
1624
01:05:15.369 --> 01:05:16.630
But they don't go to the same college.
1625
01:05:16.650 --> 01:05:17.730
Yes, they go somewhere else, yeah.
1626
01:05:18.230 --> 01:05:19.829
Yeah, she probably talking to somebody else.
1627
01:05:20.170 --> 01:05:22.570
I mean, let's keep it real. Like, let's just keep
1628
01:05:22.650 --> 01:05:22.849
it real.
1629
01:05:22.869 --> 01:05:25.429
Yeah, nah, she in college, she getting hit. She talking
1630
01:05:25.449 --> 01:05:28.190
to somebody else for sure, man. I wouldn't even... If
1631
01:05:28.230 --> 01:05:30.969
a girl wants you, bro, they gonna be on you
1632
01:05:31.190 --> 01:05:33.010
type shit. They should be the one trying to figure
1633
01:05:33.030 --> 01:05:34.219
out the conversation, not you.
1634
01:05:34.909 --> 01:05:35.179
Yeah.
1635
01:05:35.420 --> 01:05:37.960
So it's like, I would say, bro, you.
1636
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:39.760
You think that in all cases?
1637
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:45.429
I think If as a man, if you did, especially
1638
01:05:45.469 --> 01:05:48.769
if he already hit him, it's like if you already
1639
01:05:48.809 --> 01:05:51.510
hit him and she ain't on you, you ain't do enough.
1640
01:05:51.909 --> 01:05:53.250
You know what I mean? You ain't do a good
1641
01:05:53.269 --> 01:05:56.250
enough job. So it's like she probably get hit by
1642
01:05:56.289 --> 01:05:57.429
somebody else at this point.
1643
01:05:57.849 --> 01:05:58.210
Yeah.
1644
01:05:58.230 --> 01:06:01.340
Because you ain't you weren't memorable enough. So if I
1645
01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:03.440
was him, I just. Say, fuck it.
1646
01:06:03.659 --> 01:06:04.400
Charge to the game.
1647
01:06:04.699 --> 01:06:05.719
Go back to the club.
1648
01:06:06.630 --> 01:06:06.889
Yeah.
1649
01:06:07.250 --> 01:06:10.269
Also, meeting girls at the club is not the best idea.
1650
01:06:10.289 --> 01:06:11.750
That's what I'm saying. Especially you meet her at the
1651
01:06:11.809 --> 01:06:14.210
club and hit them. It's like, she done did that before.
1652
01:06:14.349 --> 01:06:16.730
Yeah, for sure. Like, do you think, like, I've always
1653
01:06:16.769 --> 01:06:18.420
wondered this. Like, I mean, I kind of know the answer.
1654
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.000
I want your perspective, though. But do you think people
1655
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.199
go to the club anything other than trying to, like, fuck? Like,
1656
01:06:24.219 --> 01:06:25.760
no one's going to the club trying to, like, create
1657
01:06:25.780 --> 01:06:26.599
a good relationship.
1658
01:06:26.619 --> 01:06:30.949
That's, I mean, I don't know. Because I feel like.
1659
01:06:31.260 --> 01:06:32.820
Like, can you meet a good girl at the club?
1660
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:33.469
I don't think so.
1661
01:06:33.469 --> 01:06:36.119
You can't. I think you can, especially if, like, she
1662
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.460
with all her girlfriends. You never know. They probably just
1663
01:06:38.500 --> 01:06:40.579
dragged her out. And you know what I'm saying? She
1664
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.840
probably don't go out that much. Now, if it's a
1665
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.139
reoccurring female that you see every weekend and she in
1666
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:48.840
the club, then obviously she doing something in that motherfucker.
1667
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:49.260
Yeah.
1668
01:06:49.500 --> 01:06:51.719
But it's like, I don't know. It's a lot of
1669
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.619
girls that go to the club to really just vibe
1670
01:06:54.659 --> 01:06:56.139
with their homegirls type shit.
1671
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:57.340
You actually believe that?
1672
01:06:57.739 --> 01:06:58.679
Yeah, I believe it.
1673
01:06:59.219 --> 01:06:59.289
No.
1674
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.860
Or they got boyfriends, right? They go to the club
1675
01:07:02.900 --> 01:07:06.039
to vibe with their girls, they get drunk, and then
1676
01:07:06.059 --> 01:07:11.670
they go home to their boyfriend. Damn. That's how I think.
1677
01:07:11.769 --> 01:07:13.750
I don't think every girl go to the club to
1678
01:07:13.769 --> 01:07:17.449
get hit. I don't think so. Not in 2023. It's
1679
01:07:17.469 --> 01:07:18.369
too much shit.
1680
01:07:18.530 --> 01:07:21.349
I feel like it's more so in 2023. You think so? Yeah.
1681
01:07:21.530 --> 01:07:23.920
I don't know. That's like, I don't know. It depends
1682
01:07:24.019 --> 01:07:27.119
on the caliber of female. You feel me?
1683
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:28.380
Yeah.
1684
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:29.880
What type of female are we talking about?
1685
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:31.179
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
1686
01:07:31.260 --> 01:07:35.079
Yeah, we talking about, you know, different calibers to this shit.
1687
01:07:35.219 --> 01:07:38.030
Yeah, okay. That's fair. One more, one more question. It says,
1688
01:07:38.090 --> 01:07:40.210
I really need help. Long story short, I'm in love
1689
01:07:40.230 --> 01:07:46.389
with my friend, parentheses, female. Okay. Okay. I've been going
1690
01:07:46.469 --> 01:07:49.369
to co-op school with her. I've been going to co-op
1691
01:07:49.389 --> 01:07:51.329
school for the past three years and I don't think
1692
01:07:51.369 --> 01:07:52.699
she has, what is co-op school?
1693
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:54.030
I don't know.
1694
01:07:54.050 --> 01:07:55.199
I've been going to co-op school for the past few
1695
01:07:55.219 --> 01:07:57.530
years and I don't think she has any idea. We've
1696
01:07:57.550 --> 01:08:00.230
been sitting together ever since we met, and we've only been...
1697
01:08:00.730 --> 01:08:04.309
How old is this motherfucker? Sitting together? Ever since we met,
1698
01:08:04.730 --> 01:08:06.989
and we've only been taking classes together so we could
1699
01:08:07.110 --> 01:08:10.449
be together. But around last year, right before I was
1700
01:08:10.510 --> 01:08:13.230
going to ask her to junior prom... Oh, she's young.
1701
01:08:14.010 --> 01:08:17.470
She got a boyfriend, and they have been unhappily together
1702
01:08:17.550 --> 01:08:22.270
ever since. Yo, this is funny. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm
1703
01:08:22.609 --> 01:08:24.090
not trying to laugh at this. It's just funny the
1704
01:08:24.109 --> 01:08:26.329
way he wrote this. She always tells me about how
1705
01:08:26.350 --> 01:08:28.250
much she hates him and hates the thought of them
1706
01:08:28.289 --> 01:08:31.510
being together, but still hasn't broken up with him. She
1707
01:08:31.590 --> 01:08:34.590
often voices about how much it revolts her at the
1708
01:08:34.649 --> 01:08:37.550
thought of them having a relationship beyond boyfriend and girlfriend.
1709
01:08:38.789 --> 01:08:40.229
And I still have feelings for her, but I don't
1710
01:08:40.260 --> 01:08:43.779
know what to do. Bro, what? This guy tripped me
1711
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:44.539
out with this question.
1712
01:08:44.619 --> 01:08:45.760
Yeah.
1713
01:08:46.979 --> 01:08:49.359
Leave her? She's with some dude. What do you mean?
1714
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:51.079
She got a boyfriend. I don't even know how to
1715
01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:54.060
answer that question. He wants this girl, obviously, and she
1716
01:08:54.100 --> 01:08:56.729
got a boyfriend who's saying, like, She's not fucking with him,
1717
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:57.819
but she's clearly still with him.
1718
01:08:58.340 --> 01:09:01.920
He got a chance though. if a girl coming if
1719
01:09:01.979 --> 01:09:05.899
a girl really if a girl is telling you about
1720
01:09:05.979 --> 01:09:08.960
her issues and her relationship that means she low-key.
1721
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:12.800
Wants you yeah that's that's actually true.
1722
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:15.619
Yeah because in reality bro like it ain't no such
1723
01:09:15.659 --> 01:09:20.289
thing as like male best friends like Yeah. As a man,
1724
01:09:20.369 --> 01:09:22.229
it's like, you know what I'm saying? You want to,
1725
01:09:22.750 --> 01:09:25.770
you're attracted to females, so it's kind of like, you
1726
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:28.920
know what I mean? Even though y'all friends, like, it's really.
1727
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.239
No, male best friends is bullshit. That doesn't exist.
1728
01:09:31.260 --> 01:09:33.359
You're just holding back temptation. That's all it is.
1729
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.319
Yeah, or like, you didn't get what you thought, so
1730
01:09:35.340 --> 01:09:36.300
you're sticking around.
1731
01:09:36.659 --> 01:09:39.439
Yeah, and she feels the same way. So it's like,
1732
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:44.020
somewhere in her heart, somewhere in her soul, she likes
1733
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:44.460
him too.
1734
01:09:44.979 --> 01:09:45.199
Yeah.
1735
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.539
He just got to be a man and make the
1736
01:09:47.579 --> 01:09:48.000
first move.
1737
01:09:48.829 --> 01:09:49.069
Yeah.
1738
01:09:49.609 --> 01:09:50.369
That's what it sounds like.
1739
01:09:50.649 --> 01:09:51.350
Yeah. Yeah.
1740
01:09:51.829 --> 01:09:52.510
That's some good advice.
1741
01:09:52.930 --> 01:09:53.770
For sure.
1742
01:09:53.810 --> 01:09:54.880
That's very real, for sure.
1743
01:09:54.899 --> 01:09:55.310
Yeah, dude.
1744
01:09:55.409 --> 01:09:57.979
I mean, just be like... I don't know. I guess
1745
01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.399
I would tell her, like, yo, fuck this dude. And
1746
01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:02.119
if she says fuck him and goes with you, then
1747
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:02.819
there you go.
1748
01:10:02.859 --> 01:10:03.239
It's game.
1749
01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:04.739
Wasn't meant for him.
1750
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.890
Right. That's it. I got one more question before we
1751
01:10:07.899 --> 01:10:08.630
get off of here. Yeah, yeah.
1752
01:10:08.649 --> 01:10:08.930
Go for it.
1753
01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:12.489
So I want to get deep in the gym. Like,
1754
01:10:12.550 --> 01:10:14.550
I'm trying to, like, really cut up type shit.
1755
01:10:15.130 --> 01:10:15.869
Yeah. And, like, really.
1756
01:10:17.149 --> 01:10:18.949
Cock D, I just seen Creed and shit.
1757
01:10:19.270 --> 01:10:20.869
You just watched Creed, you're like, fuck, I need that.
1758
01:10:20.930 --> 01:10:25.569
I'm like, these niggas. I ain't finna be going to
1759
01:10:25.590 --> 01:10:28.670
the movie, you know what I'm saying? I ain't finna
1760
01:10:28.689 --> 01:10:30.550
be taking y'all's shirt off while I'm at the movies
1761
01:10:30.590 --> 01:10:33.210
with my girl and shit. Y'all niggas are all cut
1762
01:10:33.270 --> 01:10:34.649
up and shit. So I'm like, I need to get
1763
01:10:34.670 --> 01:10:36.310
in the gym and really cut up. So I'm trying
1764
01:10:36.329 --> 01:10:39.029
to figure out what I need to do.
1765
01:10:40.149 --> 01:10:40.680
As far as what?
1766
01:10:40.689 --> 01:10:42.779
Because my shit, I got a good foundation.
1767
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:43.600
I'm good.
1768
01:10:43.619 --> 01:10:46.000
It's just, I'm not a gym head.
1769
01:10:46.449 --> 01:10:46.880
You know?
1770
01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:49.520
So it's like, I'm trying to figure out like what's
1771
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:52.119
the one or two workouts that I should be doing
1772
01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:56.199
like consistently every single day. I got a gym membership
1773
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.000
and shit, but it's like, what do I need to
1774
01:10:59.060 --> 01:11:02.500
do when I go in there to really like lock
1775
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:03.680
in and how long it's going to take?
1776
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.600
Yeah. Uh, first off, you come to my gym. I
1777
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:08.779
just opened it and it's, you know, um, I'll, I
1778
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:10.659
could put you through a workout so I can like
1779
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:12.600
show you some stuff to like, just to do. Um,
1780
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:15.300
but it's hard for me to tell you right now,
1781
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:17.260
there's just one thing you could do every day. Cause
1782
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.279
then it would, it would get kind of like, that's
1783
01:11:19.340 --> 01:11:20.859
too much to do the same thing every day. But
1784
01:11:20.899 --> 01:11:23.770
I will say that most, I would just, we're talking
1785
01:11:23.789 --> 01:11:27.869
about most important exercises to like, to never skip is
1786
01:11:27.890 --> 01:11:31.829
going to be like squatting, deadlifting and pull-ups and benching obviously.
1787
01:11:31.909 --> 01:11:34.170
But at the same time, like the deadlifting, the squatting,
1788
01:11:34.189 --> 01:11:36.329
the pull-ups is going to, is going to do 10
1789
01:11:36.329 --> 01:11:38.729
times more for you than like pretty much everything else.
1790
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:42.739
If you challenge yourself at those lifts. Um, then obviously
1791
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.979
the diet is important for this muscle building, whatever you want,
1792
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:50.170
depending on like your goal. But yeah, man, I'd love to,
1793
01:11:50.229 --> 01:11:51.529
I could put you through some stuff and show you
1794
01:11:51.569 --> 01:11:52.890
what to do. And then you just, if you can
1795
01:11:52.909 --> 01:11:56.590
just continue it, you, you'd be solid. And then if
1796
01:11:56.609 --> 01:11:58.949
you're able to keep the diet, like kind of, I mean,
1797
01:11:58.970 --> 01:12:00.399
you could fuck off every once in a while. You
1798
01:12:00.420 --> 01:12:02.819
don't have to eat solid every single day, all the time.
1799
01:12:02.859 --> 01:12:05.319
It's just more like 80% of the time, more often
1800
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:07.520
than not. And you'll start to see those, that progress.
1801
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:08.779
Okay.
1802
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.560
Um, but yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me to
1803
01:12:10.579 --> 01:12:12.300
just give you like a, this is it. Just do
1804
01:12:12.340 --> 01:12:14.699
this one thing. Cause it just doesn't really work that way.
1805
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:15.119
Yeah.
1806
01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:18.199
And it also, everything works to a degree, to a point.
1807
01:12:18.260 --> 01:12:19.539
And then it kind of stops and you kind of
1808
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:21.720
have to like, look at what you had been doing
1809
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:23.600
and then go, okay, how could I, do I do,
1810
01:12:23.619 --> 01:12:26.520
am I do, should I do more reps, more weight?
1811
01:12:26.819 --> 01:12:28.659
You know, well, how should I change up my exercises?
1812
01:12:28.819 --> 01:12:30.689
And cause like I said, everything works and it stops
1813
01:12:30.729 --> 01:12:32.329
and then it slows down. You kind of have to
1814
01:12:32.369 --> 01:12:35.869
like learn how to continue to change it. Um, But
1815
01:12:35.890 --> 01:12:37.270
I can give you something that you can just kind
1816
01:12:37.310 --> 01:12:39.390
of do for a time and then you'll be able
1817
01:12:39.409 --> 01:12:41.859
to see progress and then come back, revisit, change it.
1818
01:12:42.529 --> 01:12:44.529
And if you could stay consistent with the food portion,
1819
01:12:44.590 --> 01:12:48.590
which is probably the easier part because if you just
1820
01:12:48.609 --> 01:12:51.140
kind of get a few ideas of what is solid,
1821
01:12:51.149 --> 01:12:52.760
what you like and kind of mix and match it,
1822
01:12:53.460 --> 01:12:55.680
you'd be solid. But you just have to be consistent.
1823
01:12:55.699 --> 01:12:58.479
Just like how you are making music, whatever you're good at, YouTube,
1824
01:12:58.500 --> 01:13:00.840
you just do it and you just, it's like every day.
1825
01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:02.060
How long you be in the gym?
1826
01:13:04.460 --> 01:13:06.520
Typically, like, probably like an hour and a half is
1827
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:08.039
all you really need. I mean, I'd be in the
1828
01:13:08.060 --> 01:13:10.020
gym like probably a couple hours because I go, I
1829
01:13:10.050 --> 01:13:13.529
film content, I bullshit a little bit, but like training,
1830
01:13:13.609 --> 01:13:15.130
like an hour, hour and a half at most.
1831
01:13:15.789 --> 01:13:17.369
Okay. All right.
1832
01:13:17.729 --> 01:13:19.649
I mean, and it's like, the thing about the gym, man,
1833
01:13:19.689 --> 01:13:21.670
is like, it's just going to like, you know, we
1834
01:13:21.689 --> 01:13:23.770
talked about mushrooms and stuff earlier for your brain, like
1835
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:26.199
the gym is going to do everything else for your
1836
01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:27.939
body like in a really positive way that's going to
1837
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.140
make you better at everything else. So it just always
1838
01:13:30.180 --> 01:13:31.979
makes sense to have that be a part of your routine.
1839
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:34.720
Even if obviously we're talking like you want to, fit
1840
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:36.539
some role or if you're thinking about acting in the future,
1841
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.100
trying to look a certain way, whatever, obviously that structure
1842
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.520
of your training may change a little bit. But overall life,
1843
01:13:41.579 --> 01:13:42.880
like it just makes sense to be in the gym
1844
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:45.090
no matter what. You know, like a part of your day.
1845
01:13:45.109 --> 01:13:45.829
It's just going to make you better.
1846
01:13:45.850 --> 01:13:46.310
Do your bones crack?
1847
01:13:46.949 --> 01:13:47.789
Do my bones crack?
1848
01:13:47.989 --> 01:13:50.770
Like your elbow type shit. Nah. My elbow be cracking.
1849
01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:53.119
You think that's from lack of the gym?
1850
01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:54.930
Yeah, it's like being a bitch.
1851
01:13:55.770 --> 01:13:56.470
Cracking bones.
1852
01:13:56.739 --> 01:13:57.649
No, I'm fucking with you.
1853
01:13:58.430 --> 01:13:58.729
I don't know.
1854
01:13:58.789 --> 01:13:59.810
It could be something.
1855
01:13:59.829 --> 01:14:01.829
I don't know. My elbow be cracking and shit, and
1856
01:14:01.850 --> 01:14:02.569
I'm like, damn.
1857
01:14:02.590 --> 01:14:05.130
Well, that's probably from when you fucking beat up.
1858
01:14:05.430 --> 01:14:08.970
Nate Wyatt. Yeah.
1859
01:14:09.010 --> 01:14:09.909
I was there. I saw that.
1860
01:14:10.090 --> 01:14:10.750
Yeah, that was fun.
1861
01:14:10.930 --> 01:14:11.670
That shit was fucking.
1862
01:14:13.649 --> 01:14:14.289
Fuck, man.
1863
01:14:15.670 --> 01:14:16.829
Wait, hold on. Before I get off.
1864
01:14:16.949 --> 01:14:17.250
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1865
01:14:17.270 --> 01:14:18.770
How you feel about the Jake Paul fight?
1866
01:14:19.260 --> 01:14:23.739
Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. Well,
1867
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:27.520
I feel like he finally fought like a real boxer.
1868
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:32.930
And I think it kind of showed, you know, I mean,
1869
01:14:33.869 --> 01:14:35.470
I thought for sure Jake was going to win just
1870
01:14:35.489 --> 01:14:37.390
because like the way it goes and because he didn't
1871
01:14:37.569 --> 01:14:38.930
get none of them got knocked out. I was like, oh,
1872
01:14:38.930 --> 01:14:40.449
they're going to give it to Jake because Jake's worth
1873
01:14:40.489 --> 01:14:44.289
way more money and thinking like business wise. But I mean,
1874
01:14:45.430 --> 01:14:48.960
I think Jake's improved like tremendously. I just think like
1875
01:14:49.770 --> 01:14:52.090
I don't know. Maybe if you look at all the
1876
01:14:52.130 --> 01:14:55.449
other people, he boxed, they just weren't real boxers, not
1877
01:14:55.489 --> 01:14:58.060
really like ready or like skilled in that art. And
1878
01:14:58.100 --> 01:14:59.840
it kind of showed, like I said, when he bought,
1879
01:14:59.899 --> 01:15:03.060
even though Tommy's a real boxer, but he's boxed also like,
1880
01:15:03.659 --> 01:15:06.079
and they do this typically for boxers and boxing in general,
1881
01:15:06.100 --> 01:15:08.939
where like, they'll, they'll have them box, like really like
1882
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:10.819
not great fighters to like build them up. So they
1883
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.760
don't fuck their, their, you know, cause he's got a
1884
01:15:13.779 --> 01:15:15.479
big name, the fury name, right? You don't want him
1885
01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:17.539
to be like one and two. You want him to
1886
01:15:17.579 --> 01:15:21.189
be like, you know, whatever. And Oh, So I understand
1887
01:15:21.229 --> 01:15:23.109
how they play that game, and they both play that game.
1888
01:15:23.130 --> 01:15:26.529
And I think, I mean, what Jake's doing is incredible
1889
01:15:26.550 --> 01:15:31.439
because it's like he's just entertaining her more than anything. But, yeah,
1890
01:15:31.460 --> 01:15:32.520
I don't know. What did you think about it?
1891
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:34.180
I don't know.
1892
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:35.720
I feel like he kept doing the same shit. He
1893
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:36.340
kept doing this.
1894
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:40.579
Yeah. I think it was a different type of ball
1895
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:42.539
game for him. Like, I was waiting on that punch,
1896
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.439
but you can't really depend on that punch.
1897
01:15:45.180 --> 01:15:45.960
Yeah, that one punch.
1898
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:48.239
Yeah, but if he would have hit him, it would
1899
01:15:48.260 --> 01:15:51.399
have been over. It's just... Tommy Loke. I think Tommy
1900
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.199
Fury got lucky in a way like he didn't get
1901
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.550
hit by that. But he definitely got skill for sure. Yeah.
1902
01:15:58.909 --> 01:16:00.090
I didn't expect him to win.
1903
01:16:00.210 --> 01:16:03.770
Well, all the other guys he boxed, like, they weren't moving.
1904
01:16:03.810 --> 01:16:06.699
They weren't like. Tommy was in there like a boxer.
1905
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:09.720
He was moving, jabbing, hooking, all types of shit.
1906
01:16:09.779 --> 01:16:10.439
I was like, God damn.
1907
01:16:10.460 --> 01:16:12.460
I was like, what the fuck? I ain't expecting him
1908
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:13.079
to be nice.
1909
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:16.479
The first two rounds, I was like, oh, Jake's fucked.
1910
01:16:16.739 --> 01:16:18.880
I know. I was like, if this go the distance,
1911
01:16:18.979 --> 01:16:20.500
I knew Jake was going to lose when he went
1912
01:16:20.539 --> 01:16:21.479
to decision for sure.
1913
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.399
I thought he wasn't just because of the money. I thought,
1914
01:16:25.420 --> 01:16:26.199
you know what I'm saying?
1915
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:30.479
They can't rob. You can't get robbed when it's too close.
1916
01:16:31.300 --> 01:16:34.500
It was like, that was obviously Tommy Fury that won
1917
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:37.239
that for sure. Even besides the knockdown. The knockdown to
1918
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:39.819
me wasn't even really like a knockdown knockdown. It was
1919
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.090
more so like a slip. But they countered it anyway
1920
01:16:43.310 --> 01:16:46.109
to like give, you know, he had a chance at
1921
01:16:46.130 --> 01:16:48.789
that point, but I knew Tommy won. That shit was
1922
01:16:48.829 --> 01:16:50.470
just crazy. But at the end of the day, I
1923
01:16:50.489 --> 01:16:51.529
don't think Jake can lose.
1924
01:16:52.210 --> 01:16:53.569
Yeah, I don't think there is losing.
1925
01:16:53.649 --> 01:16:54.770
Yeah, like that's your show.
1926
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.340
If he loses again, though, in a rematch, I think
1927
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:02.199
it'll be... bad for the trajectory of it. I think
1928
01:17:02.220 --> 01:17:04.100
right now it doesn't matter. I think right now he
1929
01:17:04.140 --> 01:17:06.340
comes back. If he can rematch and win, it's like
1930
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.310
same Jake Paul, like number one type shit. If he
1931
01:17:09.350 --> 01:17:10.479
comes back and lose, it's going to be bad.
1932
01:17:10.819 --> 01:17:12.750
If I was Jake, I would fight KSI.
1933
01:17:12.989 --> 01:17:15.130
That's the number one fight right now. I wouldn't even
1934
01:17:15.149 --> 01:17:16.239
do the rematch. I would just try and fight KSI.
1935
01:17:16.250 --> 01:17:18.250
Yeah, I wouldn't even fight Tommy. Well, Tommy Fury, that's
1936
01:17:18.329 --> 01:17:21.250
easy money, I guess. But I think him fighting Tommy
1937
01:17:21.289 --> 01:17:25.590
Fury would be low-key like a risk.
1938
01:17:25.810 --> 01:17:28.220
That's what I'm saying. If he loses again... People are
1939
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:28.439
going to.
1940
01:17:28.420 --> 01:17:30.380
Be like, oh, cool. Yeah, they ain't going to try
1941
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:30.819
to play him.
1942
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.180
I was saying the same thing. I was thinking that
1943
01:17:33.899 --> 01:17:37.350
if he fights KSI right now, best possible payout, best
1944
01:17:37.390 --> 01:17:38.350
possible everything.
1945
01:17:38.369 --> 01:17:41.489
Yeah, I think he should fight KSI, then fight Tommy Fury.
1946
01:17:41.829 --> 01:17:42.029
Yeah.
1947
01:17:42.770 --> 01:17:48.109
Because I feel like KSI is great, but I think
1948
01:17:48.130 --> 01:17:49.770
that's an easier fight for him type shit.
1949
01:17:49.939 --> 01:17:52.159
For Jake, yeah. I don't know if KSI will do it.
1950
01:17:52.939 --> 01:17:55.399
I don't think KSI can beat Jake Paul. I fuck
1951
01:17:55.420 --> 01:17:59.819
with KSI, though. But I don't think he can. Because
1952
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:04.199
KSI haven't fought no crazy motherfuckers at all.
1953
01:18:04.260 --> 01:18:05.699
And it's like every time I've seen him in the
1954
01:18:05.739 --> 01:18:09.609
ring with all the other people, he's beat him so quickly.
1955
01:18:09.630 --> 01:18:11.210
It's like he's not really getting tested, obviously.
1956
01:18:11.229 --> 01:18:13.550
You can't really see. You don't know. Because you got
1957
01:18:13.569 --> 01:18:17.409
to think about it, bro. Going eight rounds. Oh, my God.
1958
01:18:17.449 --> 01:18:20.510
When I fought Nate Wyatt. Bro, I almost died in
1959
01:18:20.529 --> 01:18:22.470
the third round. Nobody knew.
1960
01:18:23.109 --> 01:18:24.090
I was standing right there.
1961
01:18:24.289 --> 01:18:27.529
Bro, I was dead. Like, if I was in the
1962
01:18:27.569 --> 01:18:30.380
ring with somebody that really throwing them motherfuckers.
1963
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:32.479
Yeah, you're going down there like getting smacked.
1964
01:18:32.500 --> 01:18:34.279
They probably, you know what I'm saying? My rap career
1965
01:18:34.300 --> 01:18:35.760
probably be fucked right now. I ain't going to lie.
1966
01:18:35.819 --> 01:18:36.649
Yeah, if you lost that, bro.
1967
01:18:36.659 --> 01:18:37.439
That's what I'm saying.
1968
01:18:37.460 --> 01:18:40.100
So it's like. You really did put that on the line.
1969
01:18:40.460 --> 01:18:40.720
I did.
1970
01:18:40.739 --> 01:18:43.770
That was intense. Because I was thinking like, damn, if
1971
01:18:43.779 --> 01:18:46.289
he gets beat up, it's going to be like really bad.
1972
01:18:46.310 --> 01:18:46.970
It's going to be over.
1973
01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:49.699
You knew that. You said, fuck it.
1974
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:50.239
It.
1975
01:18:50.260 --> 01:18:51.340
I knew it. I was like, man, I got to
1976
01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:53.340
take that risk. Same thing when we talked about the
1977
01:18:53.380 --> 01:18:56.460
whole podcast, where you got to take risk. And that
1978
01:18:56.479 --> 01:19:01.250
shit benefited me. Chances to make champions. But yeah, if
1979
01:19:01.350 --> 01:19:03.569
I was Jake, I would fight KSI. That's a cool,
1980
01:19:04.270 --> 01:19:07.789
that's a bigger fight. And it's easier.
1981
01:19:08.130 --> 01:19:08.350
Yeah.
1982
01:19:08.529 --> 01:19:11.619
You know, you got a better chance because Tommy, I
1983
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:15.899
think Tommy Fury would beat KSI. Really? I think Tommy Fury,
1984
01:19:15.939 --> 01:19:18.260
Lil' Key, nice. I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't expecting that.
1985
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.060
I think he nice for real. So I think KSI
1986
01:19:21.090 --> 01:19:23.569
and Jake Paul is like a more equal fight.
1987
01:19:24.210 --> 01:19:26.390
I think the last fight that they'll make, that Jake
1988
01:19:26.409 --> 01:19:28.069
will make, will be against Logan.
1989
01:19:28.470 --> 01:19:29.210
That'd be lit.
1990
01:19:29.369 --> 01:19:30.310
I feel like they'll do it.
1991
01:19:30.770 --> 01:19:30.930
Yeah.
1992
01:19:30.949 --> 01:19:31.770
That would be massive.
1993
01:19:31.810 --> 01:19:32.250
That'd be lit.
1994
01:19:32.270 --> 01:19:35.539
Like no matter what happens, if they fought, it'd be insane.
1995
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:37.500
That'd be lit. That'd be crazy.
1996
01:19:38.409 --> 01:19:39.170
I think it's going to happen.
1997
01:19:39.689 --> 01:19:41.430
They for sure going to do that shit. They smart
1998
01:19:41.470 --> 01:19:43.970
as fuck. But you can't expect them to really be
1999
01:19:44.189 --> 01:19:47.289
fighting each other, though, really. I don't know. You think
2000
01:19:47.310 --> 01:19:48.670
Jake Paul would knock his brother out?
2001
01:19:48.930 --> 01:19:51.449
Yeah, I think they would love to fucking.
2002
01:19:51.989 --> 01:19:52.939
That would be fucked up.
2003
01:19:53.109 --> 01:19:54.909
Yeah, but I think they're so competitive.
2004
01:19:55.239 --> 01:19:55.500
Yeah.
2005
01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:57.920
You know, I think their whole life they've been competitive
2006
01:19:57.939 --> 01:19:59.760
with each other. I think if they get in the ring,
2007
01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:02.399
they'd like, this is like, it's a little personal. They'd
2008
01:20:02.420 --> 01:20:04.500
let it out, dude. It'd be cool. It'd be cool
2009
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:06.359
to see. I'd love to see it. Would you ever
2010
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:07.800
box again? Yeah.
2011
01:20:08.569 --> 01:20:12.609
It depends, though. Like, I don't know. It's dedication. Like,
2012
01:20:13.289 --> 01:20:16.449
the fight that I did, I only trained for two weeks.
2013
01:20:17.630 --> 01:20:21.649
I trained for two weeks. And them two weeks was hard, bro. Like,
2014
01:20:21.689 --> 01:20:24.600
it was like. And then, like, the morning of my fight,
2015
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.000
the day of my fight, I went to the strip club.
2016
01:20:28.739 --> 01:20:30.340
I had a hosting. I had to go. Like, I'm
2017
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:33.220
making money. So I had a hosting. I'm up to
2018
01:20:33.220 --> 01:20:33.619
5 a.m.
2019
01:20:34.060 --> 01:20:34.920
In Miami.
2020
01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:38.130
Yeah, in Miami. Got sick. Like I was fighting with
2021
01:20:38.149 --> 01:20:38.649
a cold.
2022
01:20:40.430 --> 01:20:42.750
The cold hit you harder, huh? Yeah.
2023
01:20:43.729 --> 01:20:46.850
So if I box again, I feel like I got
2024
01:20:46.869 --> 01:20:50.510
to really, really take it serious and really like lock in,
2025
01:20:50.550 --> 01:20:52.710
be in the camp for like six weeks, eight weeks
2026
01:20:52.789 --> 01:20:56.710
at least. And really do it because obviously they don't
2027
01:20:56.729 --> 01:20:58.590
want me to fight somebody that's decent.
2028
01:20:58.869 --> 01:20:59.689
Yeah.
2029
01:21:00.329 --> 01:21:02.430
Which Nate White was pretty decent. He hit me one
2030
01:21:02.470 --> 01:21:05.569
good time. Yeah. He got me one good time. but
2031
01:21:05.590 --> 01:21:05.960
that was it.
2032
01:21:05.970 --> 01:21:07.949
He just like, he looked afraid to throw his hands.
2033
01:21:07.970 --> 01:21:10.789
That's what it looked like. He, he, I ain't going
2034
01:21:10.810 --> 01:21:12.869
to sit here and shit on him. Cause he, you know, he,
2035
01:21:13.069 --> 01:21:14.220
he could be decent.
2036
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:14.649
Yeah.
2037
01:21:15.109 --> 01:21:16.909
If he really work at it, which I'm pretty sure
2038
01:21:16.979 --> 01:21:18.810
he stopped training and he stopped boxing too.
2039
01:21:18.989 --> 01:21:19.590
I said, fuck it.
2040
01:21:19.569 --> 01:21:20.220
Yeah. Yeah.
2041
01:21:20.359 --> 01:21:22.979
But nah, he, that was a decent opponent for me.
2042
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:23.500
I ain't gonna lie.
2043
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:23.800
Yeah.
2044
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:26.500
It was cool. He just not experienced in like throwing
2045
01:21:26.539 --> 01:21:29.760
punches and winning the judges over. Yeah.
2046
01:21:30.100 --> 01:21:31.060
He's fighting a little scared.
2047
01:21:31.100 --> 01:21:31.399
I think.
2048
01:21:31.619 --> 01:21:31.819
Yeah.
2049
01:21:31.859 --> 01:21:34.960
Nice guy. Good guy. Um, Well, that's it, man. I
2050
01:21:34.979 --> 01:21:38.199
appreciate you coming. I appreciate you sharing. For sure. And, like, genuinely,
2051
01:21:38.220 --> 01:21:40.520
for real. And we should get into the gym. We'll
2052
01:21:40.550 --> 01:21:43.510
set something up for you to, like, just, like, fully understand.
2053
01:21:43.869 --> 01:21:44.350
Yeah.
2054
01:21:44.369 --> 01:21:45.310
Set, like, a little path.
2055
01:21:45.649 --> 01:21:48.029
I pull up, man. You know, trying to get my
2056
01:21:48.069 --> 01:21:49.930
workout on. Trying to get cock diesel.
2057
01:21:50.329 --> 01:21:50.430
Yeah.
2058
01:21:50.449 --> 01:21:51.649
Trying to get like you and shit, man.
2059
01:21:51.689 --> 01:21:53.130
Yeah, yeah.
2060
01:21:53.189 --> 01:21:53.890
I appreciate you, man.
2061
01:21:53.930 --> 01:21:54.170
For real.
2062
01:21:54.189 --> 01:21:54.640
For sure, bro.
2063
01:21:54.670 --> 01:21:55.869
Very good to meet you, too, officially.
2064
01:21:55.890 --> 01:21:56.279
Yes, sir, man.
