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Shownotes
A dangerous, and entirely voluntary knowledge gap undermines U.S. policy. The government repeats some mistakes over and over – either oblivious to the results, or hard at work ignoring the damning evidence.
Fiascos like the ongoing American war on Iran build on previous atrocities, including the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. Critical research and new knowledge are a necessary first step to end impunity and adopt an American foreign policy centered on justice, rights, and peace.
How can researchers tip the balance? On this episode of Order from Ashes, we talk with the leaders of the Center for International Policy, Executive Vice President Matt Duss and President Nancy Okail, about the urgent need for research that radically reframes policymaking.
Related reading
- “CIP Research Brings Fresh Ideas to Fight Bad Policy,” Center for International Policy, September 1, 2026
Participants
Matt Duss is executive vice president at the Center for International Policy.
Nancy Okail is a president of the Center for International Policy..
Thanassis Cambanis is vice president for research at the Center for International Policy.
Date: September 30, 2026
Episode: Order from Ashes 119
