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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five Double A Breakfast nine.
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Speaker 2: Minutes after SIIX. Good morning to you and welcome to Wednesday and five Double A Breakfast the eighth of October. We're taking you to Lake Air shortly. It's been flooded and looking spectacular, but the water is beginning to evaporate. So if you wanted to ever get there to see lake Air and flood our outback Pilot Trevor Wright's going to be on very shortly, and I think he's going to say you need to get in fast. We'll talk about that in just a moment. Also, the government's knife amnesty wrapped up. More than three thousand knives, machetes and swords have all been surrendered. We'll talk to the Attorney General about whether that constitutes success for that particular policy. And then a little bit later in the morning, Sean fust is going to join us. We'll go around the courts. We've got David Kohn on the program from the Port Adelaide Football Club and we're going to chat with some parents and also the CEO of the Education Standards Board about the I'll tell you what this would be absolutely upheaval in your world. If you're a parent relying on the Edge Early Learning Center at Plympton, it has been closed, of course because of those allegations regarding the insufficient supervision of children. They've been extended now into next year. Now, good luck trying to find an alternate. If you're a parent, we're going to speak speaking with the mother on after seven o'clock this morning. That's a big story. Love you to be part of the show. Eight double two three double double will jump off the police Home care text line. David Penberthy, good morning to you, Good morning.
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning listeners. Yeah, what a nightmare for those families. Although I would say that rather than planning, you know, break the habit of a lifetime, let's not blame the government for of course, reckon.
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Speaker 2: These joecare centers need to get their house in order. Well, it's sort of caught betwixt and between his a parent. I mean, obviously they'd like the childcare option to be there, but they'd also like it to be compliant. Yeah, that's right with basic things like supervising kids.
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Speaker 3: This Edge company, I reckon they having a shocker. They won't pop their head up behind the parapet to reassure anyone that they're okay. They seem to be knee jerk and responsive to everything that comes out.
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Speaker 2: Anyway. We'll get into that later. Now, Will you're a man.
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Speaker 3: Who who gives no quarter in a contest with a fish.
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Speaker 2: What about?
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Speaker 3: What about for those who don't know, Will was attacked by a titan Titan triggerfish?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Correct, Titan trigger still have the scars? Do you scar still have the scar? No? Not really. It was in Mauritius one only emotionally. So it sat the sea shells, mad dives, the mawdives. So I knew was that neck of the woods. It looked like a sort of leather jacket on steroids, didn't it. It's a fly fish with buck teeth. It looks like the kind of thing I want to buy you like the drag Queen of the Deep. You talk about it in the context of the heroism of the guy off k I at Destri's Bay who got bitten by a shark twice and then drove himself to the hospital. The thing that made my story and the reason you repeatedly bring it up, is not because it was an act of heroism, but it was the exact opposite, because there was this tiny reef shark that was in the vicinity when I was swimming that I'd seen out of the corner of mine. It went behind me and then they would scare the hell out of any normal person. I got the chomp on the back of my leg, and to say the reaction was anything approaching heroic would be the greatest incident of overstatement in human history. I panicked, David Penboothy and charged to the beach.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think you've been too hard on yourself. If i'd seen a shark, COORD have done exactly the same thing. And I reckon I reckon all of our listeners.
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Speaker 2: This guy, though, is unbelievable. The guy on Kango Island, he drove himself to hospital and look, is that a commentary on ramping?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe might be a commentary on how many ambulance as I've gone on Kango Island as well.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but so he was.
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Speaker 3: It is it di Estri's Bay, one of the least populated parts of Chaos.
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Speaker 2: The sewer is what they call the swimming spot there. I believe the sewer, why is that? I don't want to know.
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Speaker 3: The mind bog was no certainly being ka I. It wouldn't because it's polluted. Because k I is absolutely pristine. So just look at the map of Kango Island for those of you who like me, went there and sort of stayed in the more bougy confines of the island, Beach Pensure, American River Triangle. It's not far away from there. Actually, it's on that southern cape sitting on the other side around from you know, Pennington Bay. Did you drive to Pennington Bay?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 3: Seeing the waves at Pennington night, two things that strike you. On the south side of ki you're looking towards Antarctica.
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Speaker 2: Yes, there's nothing.
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Speaker 3: To stop you from Like if you walked into the water, you would end up in Antarctica.
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Speaker 2: But when you go like Seal Bay, you think anybody sharks are in there? I reckon you must. We just have cajones of steel to want to go surfing in that water. There is remarkable vision that sky had this morning of what they believed to be the shark attacks. Someone was filming the guy surfing, he's the only guy out there, and the shark is clearly chasing a seal, and the seals jumping out of the water, and the sharks swimming towards it, and then the surfer just happened to be between the two of them, and for a second the shark stops lost sight of the seal because the seal was going away to raid a knots. And then clearly it goes, oh, hang on, there it is, and it was the guy on the surfboard. But it was just really because it was all playing out next to him. He wasn't involved in this, this life or death chase. It's like a mistaken ideenta, completely mistaken ideas, was that they think it was a bronze whaler might have done it.
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Speaker 3: There was going after a seal, that was going after a seal. Yeah, no, wonder if he had a black wet suit on good question. Well, Flinder's university just pioneered the new anti shark wetsuits, haven't they. Yeah, but isn't the theory that black wet suits make you look like a seal?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's just to look at the vision. The untrained eye would say, that's precisely what's happened in this case. Or asking you this morning for the James Blunt tickets about your run ins with wildlife, what it doesn't now look It doesn't have to be. I was bitten twice by a shark and drove himself to the hospital level. But if it is is, you're probably going to James Blunt. But it might be you were bitten by an aggressive small fish.
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Speaker 3: Things like when I was about seven on an end of year Flinder's Medical Center Biochemistry department Christmas Family Day was where dad used to work when the hospital started. I was eating a banana paddle pop at Cleveland and there's pelicans.
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Speaker 2: Walk from side to side.
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Speaker 3: One there, you know, gonna hussle you pelican. I got my whole head in the in a pelican, in the sack of a pelican, because it came after me wanting my paddle pop.
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Speaker 2: It bit me on the head, the pelican, the pelican. What in your head was inside the jaws of the pelicans? I was in the sack, the underjaw. I can remember it distinctly. How old were you at the time, about six or seven. That's extraordinary. My mum will vouch you this that it might be the only hostile interaction humans and penguins have ever had. Pelican, I was a pelican. I'm with you, you know that makes more sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, where they catch the fish. I was going to say a penguin makes no sense, I reckon.
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Speaker 3: Heaps of our listeners will have been at least chased by a pelicans.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pelicans can be nasty things. Yeah, big eyes. Yeah no they hate. Now they're onto you. Eight double two to three double a textas on the police. Akare text on about your runnings with Wildlife and it could win you. James Blunt Tickets. He's back in Adelaide on the twenty eighth of October for just one night, playing the back to Bedlam to It. He's the whole album in its entirety. You can get tickets to destroy all lines dot com get calling with your stories with some news headlines coming up David.
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Speaker 1: Penberthy and Will Goodings. Five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Not after six James Blunt Tickets. In the offing, we're asking you about your runnings with Wildlife. Sally in Hillcrest, What did you come face to face with?
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Speaker 5: Mie was actually on Kanngaro Island as well when I was a teenager. We're Flinder's Chase and my parents are gone to try and find the platypus, and my brother and I got stalked by.
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Speaker 6: I need you.
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Speaker 5: My brother got out of the car to grab something and then Amy started charging, so he locked himself in.
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Speaker 3: The car boot your brother or the.
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Speaker 5: And then when I popped the boot like he looked around yet it was safe. He got out and started to go to get back in the car. That Emi charged again and I didn't realize the passenger window was down, and then you had its head in the car. My brother was hitting it trying to get it out.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen Jurassic Park? Have you seen Jurassic Park, Sally?
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Speaker 7: Because I have.
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Speaker 3: It's like they're like they move like velociraptors.
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Speaker 5: They're just as vicious as they are vicious.
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Speaker 2: You're right, Sally, Oh yeah, what what what did the does the inm You deserve it spot on the crest.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's a debate for another day. No stuffing around animal, not eve for a haircut. Sally's there with a brother. The is feels like it. The territory has been. You know, we will decide who comes here in the circumstances.
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Speaker 2: He stands it stands for immigration policy. All right, okay, I my lord, good.
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Speaker 8: Morning, Yeah, good morning. Probably last year I was in bed watching bond with the cats at ten o'clock and I heard this squeak. Next thing, this huge bats circling above my head. Big bat. Cats went berserk because they thought he was the world's biggest moth. And I kind of stumbled out of bed and managed to get him in the lounge room and shut the cats in the kitchen, and for the next forty five minutes, I was sort of waving a butterfly net at him because I know you can't grab them, can't handle on and he kept looming above my head squeaking, and you know, I'm tripping over furniture in a dressing gown and bunny clippers, and every time he came at me, I kind of waved the net at him, and I managed to finally get him to fly low on us because he woke up the Budge, who was getting upset, and I managed to coax him into the porch eventually and finally convince him to go outside. To this day, I don't know what sort of bat he was. He's very pretty. He was gray with black spots, but yeah, it was like something out of a horror movie, sort of just looking up towards something, you know, in the light of the televihion.
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Speaker 2: As you describe it to, it's part horror movie, part slapstick comedy with the bunny zippers a bit. Yeah, yeah, that's actually look a sight.
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Speaker 3: I must admit that is excellent.
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Speaker 2: So out of the poor cat run in with bats and EMUs. So far, lots of good texts coming through. We might get to some more calls shortly on this eight double two three double a double. If you're running with wildlife, if you want to run in with the best that nature has to offer of the pleasant kind. Well, lake Air has been in flood and it looks spectacular at the moment, but there are warnings now that it's beginning to a so this time running out if you do want to get to get to lake Air and check it out. Trevor Wright is an outback pilot operates in the area that we've had on the program previously, and he joins us again this morning. Trevor, good morning to you.
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Speaker 9: Good A guy's hands going, We're good.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Trevor. How's it all looking up there?
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Speaker 9: Still it's looking good. It definitely is starting to receive because of the heat comes through in a bit of wind that we get in September and that there's a bit of water still going into it from the Cooper's Creek and the birdlife's increasing. But from now on in I expect you to start dropping quickly.
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Speaker 3: In terms of the flights over the lake, have you have you had a busy winter period because obviously with the rain it looks sensational. We've got some pictures up now on the Facebook live stream. But you've been doing your rowing trade.
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Speaker 9: No, it's been a great trade. And what's really interesting is is the real interest in it, especially from baby boomers, where whereas the last few years has been fairly quiet, mainly out of South Strain Big, but this year we're getting from all over Australia and it's not unusual to have ten or twelve planes buy in from anywhere around the East Coast and more coming. We had our flay in recently and we had sixty europlanes turn up for the weekend and the main reasons they wanted to have a look at the lake.
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Speaker 3: Oh really, So when you say sixty planes turn up, where do they land? There's no airport?
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Speaker 2: What's the game?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got to do it road. No, we've got a bit of an e Strip and they pull up for the weekend. It was for the AFL Grand Final, so they decided to have a look at the lake, park their planes and they just have a good weekend. Wow, it's amazing how many people we did get into Wing Creek because it's halfway down the end of a track and we're the closest point to the lake. There's a road seventy k that goes out to the shoreline out there and it's a public viewing area.
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Speaker 2: So people part their planes on Grand Final.
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Speaker 3: That sounds like the sort of Cessna version of what used to happen at West Lakes back in the day.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, very similar. Yeah, it's just something we started about eight years ago and it's just been getting bigger and bigger and bigger. It just cool love AFL and and they want to do something different. So you get water in that lake. It just draws people in.
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Speaker 3: Can you actually watch the game? And is there power? Like can you how do you?
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Speaker 2: How do you do it?
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Speaker 10: Oh?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we get your mate to stand on the bicycle and there's a bit of a dynamo.
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Speaker 2: That would be a great story.
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Speaker 3: This is the best place in Australia to watch the Grand final.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think it is. It's good because I am the pub too. Between the tour, between the tour things, we have a pretty social weekend and we shut off the end of data track and turn it into an outdoor dining area for two days.
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Speaker 2: Wow. We just looking at some of the pictures on the Facebook and YouTube live. So it does look spectacular, doesn't it. What a show, It's stunning, It's remarkable. But Trevisa, there's times running out if you want to get it to check it out. Trevor right out back pilot, as he just revealed too. He's the local pub owner. He's got the lake Air market cornered dead. Sounds like a remarkable market to have cornered as well. Let's go to Nova Gardens because Trev's in an encounter with an animal. Morning. Do you, Trev? You're there? Trev?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm here.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: How are you? Trev?
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Speaker 7: Yeah? Not bad, not bad. And I was a sickly nipper and on our usual sad day afternoon swimming races, just turning around the last boy in the sharks are and went off. I saw a fin and the next breath I took, I was in my laund drome.
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Speaker 2: In your loundrome. What did you get a tach, Trev.
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Speaker 7: I sweam that hard it ended up being a dolphin. I quit that day and I don't go back in the water.
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Speaker 2: How eleven eleven something stay with you, don't they? Trev?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely. I tried to go back the next year and I used to swim in the middle of the pack. So for shortcome others will get eaten before me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good move. Good on you, Trev. That's excellent, Trev.
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Speaker 3: We've got a mountain of tech too much saving on the other side of the since we'll do a little bit after.
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what the pelican is in the frame. Jeez, not ONLUCKI line eleven point two degrees outside on the city at the moment, heading for a top of twenty today to two millimeters of rain, which is sort of similar to what we have forecast each and every day right through until well until the early part of next week. So keep that in mind. Tops of twenty one for twenty for Thursday, twenty one for Friday, twenty for Saturday, nineteen for Sunday, and then it's drier on Monday twenty one and Tuesday twenty one and sunny, so pretty stable. We're the pattern at the moment. Tom runs in the five double a breakfast studio thanks to Glader. I'll give them a call now, order a new dual with operator before the end of September and receive two extra handsets. Morning if you're.
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Speaker 12: Ready, Morning will Morning David bit of footing News just quickly trade period rolls on today. Riley Sanders, Bulldogs midfielder twenty one games this season. Would you be happy with him if the Crows could?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it doesn't sound like I think they want to give him money, but I do, like Rennie that they're still trying. Same.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's a good thing they've I think Clayton Oliver it was a polite sort of no, thank you, didn't want to come to Adelaide and I look there's baggage there. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
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Speaker 2: You're so polite. Tom. It's a it's a risk.
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Speaker 12: It's a flight risk, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: You know?
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Speaker 2: And everything becomes with his own HR filing captains.
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Speaker 12: So that doesn't look like it will happen. He'll probably go to GWS Petrarca trying to get to Gold coast. But the other story I wanted to talk to you about. You've got a young daughter, will Pembo. How old your youngest boy?
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Speaker 2: He is eight eight?
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Speaker 12: If you got him a cricket bat and the cricket ball.
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Speaker 2: Uh acts, I've never used a rule ball, but he's got he's in a cricket.
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Speaker 12: Get him into it. Because there's good money in cricket. And there's a story bubbling around this morning regarding Travis Head and Pat Cummins that they're not back offers to play T twenty cricket full time because we're getting these franchises now that have you know, their own teams in not just India, but America, Australia, you know, all around the world. And they could play T twenty cricket full time for ten million a year if they chose to. But they're going to be.
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Speaker 2: That million a year. What would those bikes beyond? I mean cricket you get pretty well remunerated. What would they be on at the moment? Cricke Australia contract could be two plus yeah, and then and then and then they still ten millions. It's a big step up. It's a lot. Is there any chance ready this is sort of the This is the ambition of a cricket loving Indian billionaire who would like to see Travis Head and Pat Cummins taken out of the Best our Best eleven.
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Speaker 12: Maybe, And I think it's probably just where it's going as well. If that global mode, I'm off, but you know, you think it's a global sport.
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Speaker 2: It just dwarfs the.
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Speaker 12: AFL in terms of cash you can make at that top.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they have said no, though I think they said yeah, they'll.
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Speaker 12: I think Cricket Australia will come to the party. I think they know that the end is coming for Steve Smith, Kawaja other players.
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Speaker 2: Goodness, we need to.
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Speaker 12: We can't lose everybody, you know, the faces of it would be dire for so I think they'll.
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Speaker 2: I think they'll get a little bit.
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Speaker 3: The revenue model for that brand of cricket is it? Is it broadcast rights?
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Speaker 2: Owner based?
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Speaker 3: But how do they make their money? Is it broadcast rights? Is it how much of it's gambling?
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Speaker 12: I wonder they make a lot through broadcast rights, but there would be a lot through gambling. I mean, TV deals et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Would be huge because you're getting it's.
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Speaker 3: Two percent of the Indian population watching You've got more than a leven watch cricket the.
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Speaker 2: Strapa Sonny Gaviscar's evening sports program in India was the most listened to radio program in the world and his average audience a night was over one hundred million people. It's not a joke. It's incredible million to night. It's insane. One hundred million. That's more than us, isn't It's called I think the program is called Sunny by Night. He just pipped us. We were there for a while. If you want to get a live read on and you have to yeah, exactly right, good on your What a role is paying in Mumbai?
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Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast twenty three minutes to seven and in hour's time Sean fust is going to join us on the program.
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Speaker 2: Also David Kosh looking forward to talking footy and all things money with Koschi before eight o'clock today. Lots of texts coming through from people who have been savaged by wildlife or in some cases slightly scared by wildlife. But all entry, all entries for the James Blunt tickets this morning.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go. My daughter This is from Andrea and tells me Nor my daughter couldn't understand why a dog was going off in the kitchen at three in the morning.
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Speaker 2: She got up.
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Speaker 3: They found two possums in there, running around and come through the doggie door. It's total mayhem and hilarious trying to get them out. Another one here from Katrina and how it cave. Dave, my best mate, tells his story often of his hatred of pelicans. When he was about three years old, one tried to eat him and his dad had to save him. Robin Clearview thinks that the EMU represents Bob Katter on the National coat of Arms. There you go a lot a thousand flowers bloom and Mark in poarry Hill said that he got pooed on by a pelican at Goolwa when he.
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Speaker 2: Was a kid, and he said, my entire foot disappeared. So many more.
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Speaker 3: Jared says, I clearly remember being chased by the many animals and the old Adelaide petting zoo back in the nineties, the bag of feed clean from my hands.
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Speaker 2: I still have nightmares to this day. Can on your folks keep it coming. Not a little love for the pelican coming through it all this morning. Pelican's been phairy, poor representation for its species in this talk of this bring We'll give away these James Blunt tickets. By seven o'clock yesterday, the state government wrapped up its its handback of knives, machetes, swords and other prescribed weapons. More than three thousand events surrendered to South Australian police, in fact, three thousand and five hundred eight between the first of July and the thirtieth of September, and about thirty eight weapons per day. The Attorney General Kai Mar joins us on five to blave breakfast. Attorney General, good morning to you.
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Speaker 14: Good morning gentlemen.
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Speaker 3: So attorney, thanks for joining us. It's a hell of a lot of weapons in the community. Is there any intelligence as to the reason people had them? Surely they're not all troublemakers whore in Oh, maybe you better get rid of a machete. A lot of these people would That'd be family heirlooms, historical items, antiques.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, no doubt. Not all of them would have been people who wanted to use them to commit offenses. A lot of them would have been I sawed someone had in the family or picked up as a tourist artum somewhere, or a knife that's no longer needed, or even a machete that may have been used for something once but it's no longer needed.
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Speaker 10: So you're right.
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Speaker 14: It's a huge number and it is really pleasing to see South Australian wanting to do the right thing. Almost forty a day have been handed in over the three months arounder period, actually three and a half thousand. The shehetties, knives, swords, we saw, knuckle dusters, nina stars, all sorts of things that are no longer in the community and could no longer be used to commit offenses or fall into the wrong hand.
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Speaker 2: I hate to sound cynical, Attorney General, but isn't it most likely that almost entirely they were handed back by people that had no crop prior criminal convictions and no intent to actually cause any offense. They were probably laura binding people that got scared into returning them because of the threat that these things were now illegal.
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Speaker 14: I'm sure that there were many that that was the case for, but that doesn't mean that just because it's currently or was it three months ago, in the hands of someone who had no intent to do something wrong with it, it doesn't mean that weapon wouldn't have fallen into the hands of someone who did have an intent to do something wrong with it. So not having these sorts of dangerous weapons in the community where just because someone's care and control one day doesn't mean it won't be someone else's the next day, I think, is a very good thing for thousands TRAIA.
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Speaker 3: I guess the thing too, is that the flip side is that police have been doing all of these raids in shopping malls across town over the last couple of weeks, and I mean even Burnside Village has been turning.
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Speaker 15: Up weapons they had so earlier this year we introduced legislation. We now have by far the toughest night laws anywhere in the country. A part of that was declaring swords and machete's bread weapons, but another really important part was giving police more power in declared precincts. So the police are declared eleven shopping centers now declared precinct and the run operations where they can now use that handheld medical tector to scan people to see if they've got knives on them. And I think, if my memory says career correctly, from just over a week ago there were three knights that turned up where they conducted such an operation in burnswith.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly don't want to see the sorts of scenes that have been far too common in Victoria happening here in SA. The Attorney General Kai mar and thank you for joining us this morning.
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Speaker 2: Yes, eighteen minutes to seven, Russell and Lockley's is on the line with an animal encounter and a chance to win James Blunt tickets money to Russell morning chat.
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Speaker 16: I'll tell you what this one was. I was on the forty trip down the Fort Elliott in the mornings and would be worse the words obviously grabbed the roll and I'm walking down towards the bury at that time my master whatever it was, and I had this roll in my hand and the seagull came and grabbed it out my hand and about one hundred.
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Speaker 17: Proceeders to attacked me.
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Speaker 2: They hadn't him passed my vision the first mate.
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Speaker 3: No, they're agro Riichy good on your USh. Jim and Golden Grave. Jim and Russell could form a support group, or rather Jim's Jim and Goldngrove's wife could join Russell in the support group because Jim Wright's Morning Boys. My wife was attacked by about twenty seagulls when she bought a hot dog at Seaword on the Gold Coast. They snatched the whole thing out of her hands. It was like something from an alf Ad Hitchcock film. Are you very cocky, don't they?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? You don't want to go to these areas where they're two used to people.
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Speaker 9: You know.
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Speaker 2: There's a bloke in a white yeat.
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Speaker 3: He sits every day in the car park at Melt not Melt Pearl, on the bend at the first ramp, the northern ramp at al Dinger.
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Speaker 2: He sits there with hot chips and his car.
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Speaker 3: The birds they know him. He's completely covered in seagulls. He just sits there hand feeding seagulls out of his car.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 2: I think I've told the story before on air that I remember vividly as a kid going to the Largs Bay Kiosk. We'd go to the beach there all the time, and there used to be a guy that would walk around and the seagulls would land on him and they'd all be standing on it because he just he'd feed them every day and we just they'd stand on his head and they'd be on his arms and so forth. It was just sort of a regular fixture down that way. Keating coming in because we've got those James Bunt tickets to give away before seven o'clock this morning, eight double two three double O double or Texas on zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five Wildlife Encounters inspired by that remarkable story of survival that he surfer off Ki at the Estri's Bay who was bitten not once but twice by what they think as a bronze whaler and then managed to drive himself to hospital under an emergency surgery in sounds like he's gonna be okay. Just a remarkable story, and so we're taking calls on that this morning. Eight double two three double O double O the number. Yesterday we spoke about the appalling timing of the Free Palestine protest to coincide with a two year anniversary of the seventh of October massacre in Israel, something that the Prime Minister had warned those organizing the protests not to go ahead with. Indeed, Jacindra Allen and Victoria had said, don't do this. He'd warned people in Victoria those protests did go ahead. Jack Hahn was covering the Free Palestine rally that took place in Sydney yesterday and joins us now on five double a breakfast, Jack, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 18: Good money's here jents.
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Speaker 3: So Jack, which one were you at? Because was there one at the Opera house? Has that happened yet?
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Speaker 2: Or you're the one in.
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Speaker 3: Bankstown and Western Sydney where the chap on them came charging in on his white steed.
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Speaker 18: Yes, but on So that's the one that happened last night. So there was a massive pro Palestinian rally that was held in Western Sydney yesterday, and of course that is two years to the day since the October seven terror attacked. There were hundreds of people in the park. They were fired up, they were passionate, so they were posters and placards, a period of messages and cerrently in the firing line with US President Donald Trump. As your listeners would know, and you would know that obviously President Trump has put together what he's calling a peace plan or gaza for the situation that's playing out of the Middle East. And these people in Sydney's western suburbs are not happy with Donald Trump's proposal. And they've also and I'm using the words that they have used, they have described what happened two years ago as the terrorists as martyrs. So some what people were describing as shocking scenes playing out of Western Sydney last night and now this morning, we've got that while we're looking forward to the Opera House. So you're correct, we do have a major pro Palestinian protest looming at the Opera House this weekend. We could expect to see upwards of one hundred thousand people there because they want to have a massive protest at the Opera House, on the steps of the Opera House. And this is not going to be a major court battle because look, I can tell you this in Sydney, the Sydney Opera House obviously is a landmark of Sydney of Australia. One would argue the world. You can go there, you can fly and you can take a picture on your phone. That's great, but pretty much that's all you can do. If you want to set up a camera, let alone have any type of event there, you need to do months and months and months of approvals and paperwork. And this is where the courts are now coming into it because the Palestine Action Group, these protesters have said, look, we're going to do this protest here we want to, and the cops have said, look, hold your horses because we need to have crowd control, we need to have extra cops. We just don't think it's going to be.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's no way you get one hundred thousand people in there like that.
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Speaker 3: Fore court, I mean, crowded house might have been all right, but there weren't a hundred thousand people at that concert, and they weren't all fired up running around shouting, charming, pushing, shoving, waving placards. It wasn't a heated environment. It was an outdoor concert like it's I think that the Men's government from what I've seen, I mean, everyone's got the right to protest, although calling terrorists martyrs might be pushing the boundaries of freedom of speech order thought. But setting that aside, there's a logistics and security argument against his protest happening, which is what Men's and the police are trying to say.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, and that's spot on. So they are pointing to crowded house in the late nineties as a reason why this can go ahead. So look, it's actually going to be up to the Attorney General's right around the country, even in South Australia. Your Attorney General is going to have a chance to write a letter over to the court today with what they reckon the best course of action is. That's going to happen right around the country. All the ags are going to send in their informations, the two judges are going to make up their mind. You can never predict it, perp harder than predicting the Melbourne Cup, predicting what a judge is going to figure out. So that's going to play out today. And will we or once we see this major Propalestinian protest on the steps of the Opera House. It is very hard to tell. But as you can, as you pointed out, the men's government's trying to strike this freedom of speech and keeping all sides of Sydney happy because you've got a lot of Sydney siders that do have family in the Middle East on both sides of the conflict. So it's a tough situation for a lot of people here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely great, announcewers Jack Jack Hn there for the Today Show covering the first of the Palestinian rallies pro Palestinian rallies in Sydney this week.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break police and where they're coming up right after traffic David.
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Speaker 1: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, take to serve.
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Speaker 2: As I said to the weather bureau, Chris Kent is on deck this morning, Chris, what's Wednesday got in store for us?
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Speaker 19: Good morning guys here. We've got a maximum temperature of twenty degrees on the forecast for today. It's a little bit of cloud around this morning, but should see that sticking up maybe a little bit during the afternoon, with the possibility of a shower or two about with a cold front that's slowly moving across the by this morning. Temperature wise, yeah, expecting sort of pretty sort of consistent temperatures over the next couple of days and into the weekend. Twenty degrees really sort of around that that ballpark for you, and those showers are likely to sort of yeah, continue sort of over the next couple of days as well, so not a lot of change in the weather for the rest of the week and then sort of yeah, into the weekend. Across Adelaide, actually it's all looking pretty similar from day to day.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Chris Chris Kent of Meteorology Light Week at the Weather Bureau. Alright, lit's have to report. Yeah, it's excellent. Let's say the same pole. Sergeant Peter Williams joins us. Peter, what happened in Rundle Mall overnight?
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Speaker 20: Yes, good morning guys. If you thought your morning was off to a rough start, Spira thought for a man who's now waking up in a cell and not the crime with room service police accorded to Rundle Mall around about quarter past three this morning after security spotted a man doing a bit of after hours shopping, and by shopping, I mean breaking into a retail complex like it was his own personal treasure hunt. The thirty five year old gentlemen from Glenside apparently thought the best way to beat the crowds was to sneak in before sunrise, which is quite a bold move, but unfortunately he got caught on CCTV, which doesn't sleep. When patrols arrived, they found him with a laptop and two keyfobs, so not exactly the Hall of the Century. Officers reviewed the footage and found that he had helped himself to several stalls within, and the laptop as any sugsession came from one of them. So not only did he break in, but he went on a bit of a mini mall tour. He's now facing a shopping list of charges, including two criminal trespass, four counts of being unlawfully on pres missus an unlawful possession. His bail was denied and he's now set himself up for a date later today with a magistrate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, naughty bloke, Pete. Also, a guy's been caught driving erratically in Morpha Vale.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, this lake seems to mistake the streets for a racetrack and a bit of a law as a suggestion, So just before two point thirty this morning, patrol spotted a silver Subaru station Wagon doing his best impression of a dodging car, slamming on brakes and driving erratically, very nearly colliding with a police vehicle. Most people would take that as a bit of a sign to slow down and maybe rethink their choices, but not this guy. He sped off and wisely the police didn't pursue for safety reasons. A short time later, police officers locted that vehicle on Opal Avenue, with a man casually locking it up. When police tried to have a chat, he bolted and was caught not far away. It turns out that running from police is a lot harder when you've got some cannabis and a lockknife bouncing around in your pocket. Just when you think it couldn't get worse, he refused the roadside blood or Sorry roadside alcohol test, and checks revealed he was already disqualified from driving, So to recap that his night included a erratic driving, nearly hitting the police car, fleeing from the scene, carrying drugs and a weapon, refusing at our coohol test, and driving loss to squalified. Soone's got a Bengo card going there. Probably kicked it all off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that he refused to test as though he was. You know, this is the kind of person that didn't want to add to his rap sheet.
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Speaker 7: Yeah he was.
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Speaker 20: He was starting to run out of space on the police officer's notebook, I think. But he's been reported for a whole raft of offenses and we'll go to court at a later date. His license has gone for twelve months and his vehicle has been in powdered for twenty eight days, and I'm sure his dignity has been lost somewhere on Connington Crescent.
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Speaker 2: Well, as it turns out, sounds like he doesn't worry about his licensees being the same fight, but the only thing he wasn't doing was eating his succulent Chinese meal.
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Speaker 20: Well, we can't confirm that.
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Speaker 2: What is the charge? Just lastly, Peter, and there's a neighborhood watch meeting.
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Speaker 20: That's correct. Last night I popped down to the Lockily his neighborhood watch group down at the Lockley Sporting Club and bounced into an old colleague of yours, Dave from the old McMahon's Fruit and vEDS days Kent and believes the boss was Stephen back at the time. Yeah, they were there and they provided me some valuable intelligence about you and your history.
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Speaker 7: As we go.
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Speaker 20: Talking about sucking on Chinese meals. I think we need to have a chat.
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Speaker 2: How is how is operation house Boat going?
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Speaker 18: That was?
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Speaker 3: That wasn't the houseboat crew, that was the market crew. But you know, as we used to say on Good Street, what happens at the market stays in the market.
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Speaker 2: Pete.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, well a little bit slipped out at the Lockley's last night.
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Speaker 3: That was a great job, a great bunch of people to work with. Always good to have you on. Pete, Sergeant Pete Williams there from.
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Speaker 2: Zapol Alan and Plipton's called in with an animal encounter morning, Allen, good things, Allen, that's good.
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Speaker 11: Barley with the grand kids five six years ago. Anyway, we went to the monkey park and I thought you're beauty, and our driver said, I I think I got mixed up what he said that get buying. You can buying bananas there anyway. So I brought the bananas and when the monkeys see them, they go naps. So I tried, I bought them and tried to put it in my wife's backpack. Two monkeys just come out and jumped on her shoulder, and the green and the words going a green. Kids are crying and mass They hid the monkeys on the back of all sort of half laugh and half gone. Are you kidding?
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Speaker 2: They yeah, they're pretty a gray trained. They know what The problem with monkeys though some of those places, is the way when they steal glasses and things, the way they get it back from them is to give them food. So the monkeys have turned into a business model. They go if we pinch stuff from people, yeah, they'll bribe it back. And some of the scenes are remarkable. Alan, you're in the running to win the James Blunt tickets. WI announce that very shortly bit of a parable for the criminal justice system. Really, isn't it?
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Speaker 3: Mostly you give a monkey a slap on the wrist and it keeps coming back for more. See this is just it racking monkeys, rack and pack him and stacking on the causes of monkeys.
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Speaker 2: This is we continue to get to new and unique areas where AI is. We're posing problems frankly because it's increasingly been relied upon for everyone to answer all sorts of queries, and now people are using it and it's generating misinformation with regard to things like missing persons stories like that of little Gus Lamont. Sarah Whalen is a professor of social work at CQU and a missing person's experts. Sarah, good morning to you.
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Speaker 21: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: What are the threats of this, Professor Whalen, because we've seen a lot. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the case here in Adelaide, but this poor little four year old boy disappeared Saturday week ago out Bush and a town called Janta hasn't been seen since. Place have wound back the recovery effort or the search effort. He's missing in the presumption is he's no longer alive, but social media is just pumping out all sorts of nonsense about what's happened to him.
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Speaker 21: Completely. You know, I've been working and missing for about twenty years now, and so over those years, so many times families have had to contend with different forms of technology that kind of disrupt the ways in which their stories are told. And so AI is just a new one added to the least, because what's happened is and you know, Guss's case is really prominent all across Australia. So we're very much seeing that I'm in Sydney, lots of media here as well to keep people updated on the case. Is that, as you'd know, the police have been releasing information every few days, keeping people updated. In those early days when the image wasn't released and people on social media were almost demanding that they wanted to see a picture of Gus. Is that what's happened, particularly with meta AI that's available on those social media platforms, is that it's not just pruning the information that has been offered by the police to update the investigation and the family statements, but it's also pruning all of the conspiracy theory or people comment and then bringing them together and collectively offering updates to the story that simply aren't true.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit like after football matches now that you get meta AI coverage, after like an Adelaide game where there is a contentious umpiring decision and the AI version of the game will say huge public outcry over performance of umpire and some calls for sacking of coach, And now in their criminal space, you're seeing it with people going and I'm not going to repeat what they are, but people making comments on Facebook that end up becoming the basis for what's purported to be a news pricie, which.
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Speaker 21: It is not ye exactly, And I think it's really God, isn't it. When people are consuming that information, there's not a warning that says, hey, this is not from a credible source. It's just a summary or an update, So of course people are going to think that this is an updated piece of information rather than thinking the technology is just taking information from everywhere and providing the summary for people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a scary development. Sarah wil And, Professor of Social Work at CQU Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 13: David and Will ten years on breakfast on five double A congratulations and I said it wouldn't last.
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Speaker 2: Well as you've done well.
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Speaker 13: It's the thinking version's breakfast session. May there be many more of them?
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Speaker 2: Good on your fellows.
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Speaker 13: David Pennberthe and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: I said it wouldn't last. He's been withholding things from me.
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Speaker 24: Dad.
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Speaker 2: That was a very lovely message. Of course. I was celebrating ten years come this Friday of doing the show. Ten years this Friday? World. Has it really been ten years? Has anything of significance happened in the world in that time?
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Speaker 3: You know, it's depressing doing this job. It's a bit like Oscar Wilde's The Portrait of Dorian Gray right. Because we played a bit of audio the other day from something somehow we'd both forgotten about We interviewed John Cleese back in the day and we're talking to him about Monty Python lines and how you remember them, and you know, I said, I'm forty seven, and having grown up with Monty Python, we've now got all these terms like, you know, for people's front of Judea, or he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy, or you know, on and on, I thought, I'm forty seven. I'm not forty seven. I'm fifty seven next year.
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Speaker 2: How old were you when we started the program in twenty fifteen, make me do sums. I was ten years younger than I am now. So I was forty six, forty six, forty six. How were you thirty one, thirty one, thirty one, thirty two, thirty two. Yeah, I know I was young. I was genuinely young. Your next big birthday mates got a five in front of it. How did that? The march of time? Yeah, it is relentless. Would you say life is nasty, brutish and short? Eleven after seven with that reflection to start your day, A good morning to you. The sun is up. It actually looks MAGNI yeah, exactly right. Every second you're ticking closer to the end. That's just how we're choosing to remember our ten years it is it would be hearing more. That just took us by a little bit of surprise, that message covering out of seven o'clock from the GG. That was very lovely. Now let's turn our attention to some of the news of the day. Yesterday the Attorney General Kaim mar and now that the embattled Edge Early Learning Center at Plympton would be suspended for a further ninety days by the Education Standards Board following what had been a two week closure. Ben Grimola is the CEO of the Education Standards Board and joins us on five double a Breakfast. Ben, why the extension of the closure.
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Speaker 25: Thanks David, And will the Education Standboard extended the suspension because we still have concerns surrounding practices within Edge Early Learning at Plimpton, particularly around inadequate supervision, which was part of the concerns that led to the original closure.
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Speaker 2: So, Ben, is it the case that more.
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Speaker 3: Questionable practices have come to light, or is it more that you guys haven't been reassured that they've got the systems in place to stop anything bad from happening again, or maybe both.
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Speaker 25: Yeah, look, that's right, David. For us, it's probably more that we haven't got to our satisfaction demonstration that there's a long term, sustained process change within that service yet EDGE are working towards that and they've been working closely with the Education Standard Sport.
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Speaker 2: Ben, Is that about putting in place policies or does it go also to hiring more people.
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Speaker 25: It goes to a lot of avenues, including obviously a number of staff, making sure you've got proper processes and procedures in place, but also making sure that you know people are trained properly. And this isn't just a matter for EDGE. All childcare services need to make sure they have proper processes and procedures in place, particularly in regards to supervision because as we know, you'll leave a child for a minute and a lot can happen.
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Speaker 3: So, Ben, just to clarify, because there's a number of EDGE Childhood centers around town. Is it just the Plinton one that's had the extension six months?
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Speaker 25: Yeah, look it's ninety days, and yeah it's only the one at Clinton. We have an enforceable undertaking that is across the rest of the services, and an enforceable undertaking is agreement between the Education Standards Board and the provider on how I guess, on some things that they need to work on to make sure their practices are improved.
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Speaker 2: So, Ben, what happens in the event that the ninety days passes now and they don't fully satisfy you.
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Speaker 25: Well, look, there's a couple of things that can happen. One, we can extend the suspension if there's a few things that they still need to rectify. However, if we consider there's continued risk to children's safety, then we can also close the service permanently.
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Speaker 3: M Yeah, well there's a lot to think through, Ben Gramola, the CEO of the Education Standards Bill, Well, what does it mean for parents for that? We're joined now by Eliza Sekiris, who is the mum of children at the Edge in Plinton. Eliza, and thank you so much much for joining us. This must be a bit of a logistical nightmare for you.
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Speaker 26: Yeah, good morning guys. We I guess are really lucky we've spoken before and we've had a really great experience at Edge. We unfortunately did have to move on due to it being a logistical nightmare. But you know, going off of the previous comments. I've been there. It's really is a double edged sword because we understand that the center needs to, you know, get all of it stuck in line and do all the right things and show that there is legitimate change with processes to back it. But at the same time, how can the center higher or recruit when you know who's going to want to come and work for a center that's just been shut down for ninety days. Yeah, so it's really tricky, and I just I really feel for them there.
00:46:53
Speaker 3: Did you have any concerns as a mum about the safety of your kids? Were there any issues with them or you said you had a good experience there, you were happy with it.
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Speaker 26: Yeah, we had been there for four years, so my kids both started when they were five and six months and fast it was a dream. Like I was the typical anxious mum who didn't want to leave her kids in care, but within the space of like the first week of dropping them off, I was so at ease. And you know, every single team member that's there from the beginning of our journey to the end, has been so incredibly supportive, even you know, down to we had a wonderful chef there named Milo. He was most incredible influenced and for us, it's no longer about the families, because you know, as families were resilient, our kids, the resilient EDGE have done a really great job setting the kids up in that way. It's more so the educators and the staff there who have been absolutely working their arms off trying to get everything in order hoping to open. But again they've had staff that have had to leave because logistically for them it's a nightmare too because they need to work. And so yeah, I just don't know how with an additional closure they will ever get the opportunity to a higher more staff and b show that there is you know, meaningful change.
00:48:12
Speaker 2: How tricky is Eliza going having to move midyear from one a childcare center to another.
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Speaker 26: We were really lucky. Actually the center that we opted to move to is still very far out of our way commute wise, but all of the kids' friends from EDGE, We're not all exageration, but a lot of the kids went to another center local to them, and so we followed, so very very gratefully. The center that we went to made it a breeze for us. You know, obviously people are pretty understanding with everything that's going on. So yeah, for us fakefully the logistical nightmare is over. My heart just goes out to we had some amazing childcare workers who now are suffering with that nightmare rather as the family.
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Speaker 3: Well, what I mess Eliza's securius there mum with children at edge or formally at Edge in Plimpton. This is well, I don't understand this company, Like if they've got parents like Eliza going we actually didn't mind the center of it all, why don't they get on the front foot and actually say something And.
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Speaker 2: It's peculiar and it is it is interesting, but I don't know enough about how the business is structured. It works that so they've got more. Why was one particularly tardy? Well?
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Speaker 3: I think the thing is though, if every Eliza, because this is based on the tires as reporting, there's been other parents going this is what happened to my kid.
00:49:30
Speaker 2: It it was a disgrace. And I suppose that the time of day your kids there, what days of the week, might be a totally different experience.
00:49:36
Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Wild Goodings five double a Breakfast twenty two minutes after seven.
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Speaker 2: We are James Blood tickets to give away in the first hour of the program this morning, inspired by that incredibly heroic and brave act the surfer and chi Yesterdy's bay had been bitten twice by a shark and then drove himself to hospital asking about your run ins with wildlife, and we have a winner, a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Great calls, but we're going to give it to Sue with her excellent tale of the.
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Speaker 2: Birthday party. Yes, release the bats. Sue one in the bailing. I think the bat.
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Speaker 3: Flying around in her house, her cat's going, man, the budgy, you name it. She was wearing the fluffy slippers, chasing the chasing the bat.
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Speaker 2: The Back to Bedlam Australian tour by James Blunt performing here in Adelaid Tuesday, the twenty eighth of October for one incredible night. Tickets and all the details you need at destroy all Lines dot com. Otherwise you can stay listen because we've been giving away the tickets all week. If you have been listening, you know you'll know well of the saga of Optus and the triple zero outage or the heads of all the major telcos will hauled to Canberra yesterday to answer questions about how this can be prevented from ever happening again. Melissa Mackintosh is the Shadow Minister for Communications and joins us on five Double A Breakfast. Shadow Minister, good morning to you. Good morning, so Shadow minister.
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Speaker 3: What role is there for government? What type of what type of oversight should government provide when it comes to triple O? Because I don't think any of this would want to see Optus necessarily let off the hook.
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Speaker 6: You're right and you know it from your area. It's the events of a few weeks ago tragically for people passed away, so it can't happen again. And the government does have a role, so it isn't just on the telecommunications providers like Optis. It's a very regulated industry and the government can put all sorts of things in place to oversee it. And one of the recommendations when Optics had that outage in twenty twenty three was to have a custodium, which is like a law enforcer within government to make sure things are going right. But the government sat on this recommendation for a year and a half and now this has happened with Optus and people have died and where he this week trying to rush legislation through, so it's got the powers it needs to to try and fix this issue. So I'm pretty cranky.
00:52:04
Speaker 4: So scan on the apartment.
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Speaker 3: What you're saying, is it fair to surmise that scanning number one should have necessitated a much more dramatic response from the Commonwealth and rather what's happened is that it's taken scannal number two involving triple A for them to do what they'd said they were going to do in the first place.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're pretty much spot on there. There were eighteen recommendations after the first one saying this is how you can fix it, and we only found out through question time yesterday probing the Minister which recommendations they've actioned. And we also discovered yesterday that there's been this overseer in her departments is March. Well, if there've been this is March, why weren't they doing their job? So now we've got this legislation to go through and I don't think it's strong enough. I will keep putting the pressure on the minister. She went overseas during the crisis, I don't think that's appropriate. Left her post. She came back and three weeks later she dragged the CEOs to Parliament for a bit of a political stunt. So we want to be the politics is the politics. We need to get this right for Australians when somebody's in need. Every single one of your listeners, when they have their greatest time of needs to be able to pick up the phone and call Triple zero and actually get through.
00:53:23
Speaker 3: Wasn't the most recent policy triumphs being charged with my aged care. Whether it's a court of a million Australians waiting to get onto a package.
00:53:31
Speaker 6: That's correct, over a hundred when we were in Parliament the other week, one hundred and eight thousand Australians just waiting still and it took a pressure again for the government to release those packages. So there's nothing more important for a government and even the opposition than looking after your citizens and protecting them and making sure they're safe and right now this minister seems to be failing at every one of her jobs she's had that.
00:54:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Shadow Minister for Communications, Melissa McIntosh.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us this morning. So the official timeline is Richard been did a composed a report featuring the eighteen recommendations. Melissa Macintosh just spoke about into the November twenty twenty three optus outage. They came out in April twenty twenty four and at the time the government said, we accept all of those those recommendations, one of which was for a custodian to oversee all this. That person's been working but without any legislative power. So a year and a half ago. Yeah, and now the legislation has been tabled in parliament. How can they be working without any legislative power? They sort of like their administrative volunteer. Well, I think they can say again, yeah, else they can give you some They can you know, make some really angry phone calls. You better not be not answering emergency cause you know what, you know, Yeah, I'll be really really disappointed, dirtier than you know what. Fucker. Yes, five double A news is coming up, Short, fishtal Geordane. Shortly we'll go around the courts with Short and David Koch on the program Tea before I curse David.
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Speaker 2: A long time in breakfast radio. But could you imagine playing that bit of audio to us ten years ago when Matt Abraham was our small enemy amazing with an occasionally fractious relationship back then. Yeah, but back and forth between us and the national broadcast. But look, time heals all things. That was magnificent, Matt. Thank you very much, very generous, lovely words.
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Speaker 13: Mat.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty three minutes to wait, and someone who's been with us on the journey the entire time is Sean fuster. Let's go around the courts.
00:56:22
Speaker 1: It's time to go around the courts with Sean Fusta on five Double A Breakfast.
00:56:28
Speaker 2: Pretty much the whole time.
00:56:29
Speaker 12: Sean, good morning too, Yes, good morning, Happy tenth anniversary to me almost and you guys as well.
00:56:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, wous is Friday.
00:56:35
Speaker 3: This was one of the very first segments that Will and I locked in.
00:56:38
Speaker 12: I still remember the text that I got from you saying, hey, Will, and I would like to have you on radio.
00:56:42
Speaker 2: Would you come in?
00:56:43
Speaker 12: And at that point I was so worried about doing things like that. I'm like, all right, I'll come in once. And I haven't had a full Wednesday's morning sleep.
00:56:51
Speaker 3: See because I can remember it too, because you came on.
00:56:55
Speaker 2: And after you came on, Will said me, how good's that Blake?
00:56:57
Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, work with him for years, he can bloody excellent.
00:56:59
Speaker 2: And then like here you are.
00:57:01
Speaker 12: Now, I'm glad to be here. And look, seriously, guys, congratulations, it's brilliant that you've been on this long. I'm very grateful to have been along for the ride. And I know a lot of the people that myself and even Daniel have helped out through Just Lawful and Just Lawful wouldn't exist without this show, and you guys sort of being the godparents that got that through. So all the victims and survivors of crime that have worked with us over the years are really grateful for this show on this platform.
00:57:22
Speaker 2: Well, you've got a story this morning, and that's very kind of you, very generous of you to say, Sean, you've got a story this morning that is a sort of conclusion to a story that started at ten to eleven years ago. Well, look, I.
00:57:36
Speaker 12: Wish it was a conclusion, but it really isn't, because it's really just finally getting past a goalpost that in all rights, should have been dealt with a very long time ago. The twenty fourteen crash at the bottom of the Southeast Freeway that killed Tom Speace and Jackie Byrne, that left another person injured, that left truck driver without a leg. You'd think that would be over by now. You think that would be dealt with. But over the course of this show and also the Advertiser's coverage, we've talked about the fact that the coroner did an emergency coronial inquest and recommended that the speed be limited on the downtrack for all trucks. We talked about the fact that the charges were eventually dropped against the driver because it turned out the brakes of the truck were not working and no force in the universe could stop that truck once it starts nothing he could do. We talked about the fact that clean Away, the company involved, the charges there were dropped to the criminal charges for the same reason. Then we talked about the fact that the maintenance company came out and made allegations in the district court that they warned clean Away twenty five days before the crash that the brakes were maggeted and that they should have been doing something about it. Then what we've been waiting on all this time since is the regulatory offenses. Colmcare the Commonwealth Regulator has been pursuing clean Away, saying you failed to train the driver. The driver could have had a buddy in the car with the truck sorry with him. They could have been taught to if the brakes aren't working, heads straight for the arrest of bed. There's so many other things you could have done in his training. He gave evidence and said, you know, I had two days training in an automatic and I never went down the freeway. This thing was manual, and I was taking it down the freeway on day one with eight thousand liters of raw sewage in it. That track ended up going one hundred and fifty one k is an hour by the time it hit mister Space and miss burnet.
00:59:26
Speaker 3: Because like put it in the driving a car context. These days, most people don't learn how to drive on a manual. When I was growing up, everyone did it on a manual.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: That's right.
00:59:36
Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if more than ten percent of people learned on a manual.
00:59:40
Speaker 2: Now I didn't. Yeah, yeah, right here? Did you learn on an automatic? Will? Yeple on a manual?
00:59:46
Speaker 12: I got taught to drive a manual by the photographers at the TiSER.
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But the thing is, I mean a car is lethal enough, let alone a truck.
00:59:53
Speaker 12: Well, it's an eight thousand liters sewerage bob and one hundred and fifty one kilometers an hour.
00:59:57
Speaker 2: It's a missile. So there's just to go back to who responsible with this component? So they've been pursued by the regulatory bodies? Yep, that's right. So who's dragged the change? Because so often when we talk to you about cases with this long lead time, we're saying, oh, there's a backlog in the court. So this is not a backlog in the court. Is this just how long has taken to put together the case.
01:00:15
Speaker 12: That's a really interesting question that I don't know whether I can answer, but I can certainly tease out the facts with you. Because you had the magistrates court find them guilty m clean Away. This is of eight charges. They challenged that on appeal. The Appeals Court came back and said, we'll knock down six of the verdicts, but two of them you.
01:00:33
Speaker 2: Have to wear.
01:00:34
Speaker 12: You are guilty of these two. Clean Away then appealed that appeal saying it was incorrect. That was in November of twenty twenty two. Last week we got the appeal judgment last week. So three justices of the Supreme Court have had this matter before them for consideration since November of twenty twenty two, and it's only just this month our judgment has finally come back saying no, the original appeal judgment was correct. You have to wear those two. You're now facing a maximum three million dollar fine. But we've had all that time in between.
01:01:09
Speaker 3: Wow, how harrowing and draining emotionally for the families of the two people who lost their lives. Though, to witness this sort of protracted, decades long orgy of finger pointing unfolding before the courts, where it almost sounds like tactically every single person involved in this has been trying to say, well, look at what the other guys are doing.
01:01:34
Speaker 12: There's been a lot of that. There's been an absolute lot of that. And look, the civil proceedings for wrongful death and things like that have been stymied by this at various times. There's talk that some of the coronial processes have had to wait. There may even be death and injury certificates that still haven't been issued all these years later as a result of the fact that everyone further down the chain has to wait until this part is dealt with. This is supposed to be the fast part. And again we have a jump in.
01:02:05
Speaker 3: Can't that affect because you know, things are wills in that show that's right? Can't that affect things like releasing money from the states?
01:02:11
Speaker 2: And so absolutely?
01:02:12
Speaker 3: Can you know, I'm not suggesting at all this is some craven money making exercise for anyone. But if you've still had a family to run and you've lost your partner's.
01:02:20
Speaker 12: All of that's there as well. So the trauma that continues on from that moment has no chance of I mean, nobody truly gets closure anyway, but there's no ending to this segment of it. Even now it's not over. You were saying at the top of the segment, you know we finally reached the conclusion. Well we haven't. It's just that clean aways now run out of appeals. So now it goes back to the magistrate's court for sentencing submissions, and then a magistrate needs to go away and come back with a sentence. But here's the thing. The magistrate that hurt it has now retired, which means whoever is seized of it next has to be brought up to speed. And that's no fault of that magistrate. They're going to need that background.
01:03:00
Speaker 2: It's not the end, it's the beginning of the.
01:03:01
Speaker 12: Getting at the end. It means that the sentencing submissions are going to be longer and more arduous they normally would be, because you're busy in forming a brand new person.
01:03:09
Speaker 2: You mentioned there was two charges that they have not been able to two wraps they've not been able to get away from. So one has to do with the training of the driver.
01:03:17
Speaker 12: Both of them are well, they're both different versions of that. In terms of regulatory style. You didn't meet this section of the Act. You didn't meet that section of the Act. But the ballpark effect of it is you didn't train this person. There was so much else you could have done, and you still failed to train them adequately. Even if regardless of whether the braake's failed or not, there are things that you could have taught this man that might have lessened the impact.
01:03:40
Speaker 3: It's a huge case and it's one that has affected a lot of things. I mean even down to things up the speed limit on the south the Eastern Freeway.
01:03:48
Speaker 12: We could deal with that straightaway, you know, the coroner was able to deal with that. There was this rush of emergency and in a good way rush of emergency effort to fix things at the time, and now here at the tail end, it's just dragging on.
01:04:00
Speaker 21: M hm.
01:04:01
Speaker 2: Hey Shawan, thank you for that.
01:04:02
Speaker 3: And there's always actually like a really good example of the type of work that you've done with us for the last ten years. We know from the feedback we get from our listeners people when we see them, you know, bumping on at the shops or whatever, and they're you know, I love the show and sary people, so I really love Sean second. So it means a lot to a lot of people. Thank you very and then we look forward to it continuing for another decade.
01:04:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, although not next week as we just learned it. No, not next week.
01:04:28
Speaker 12: Next week, I'm off doing fun things for a change. But yeah, thank you boys, thank you everybody out there. And yeah, absolutely I'll see in a fortnight.
01:04:34
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
01:04:35
Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast David Coosh on five double a breakfast.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: Eleven minutes to way the chairman of the Port Adelaide Football Club. Compare the market economic Director David Coosh jawins Us on five double a breakfast boarding your Coshi.
01:05:00
Speaker 3: Coos So, Goshi, what's it like in the middle of being a football club chairman during trade week?
01:05:06
Speaker 2: You feel like every day's got to start with a head count to make sure everyone's still there.
01:05:11
Speaker 4: Well, this year is a bit different for us because we're really quite in this year in trade Week and also in the draft this year, and that's been planned for a couple of years. We were going to be out in twenty twenty five, largely because we've got to build some stockpile of cash because we've got to sign some pretty important people as the next year or two, and we've got quite a few father sons and n Gas coming in next year and the year after, so we've got to build up points. So this year it's not that exciting, but sort of you see so far with the with the trades that we had brought in, we brought in some depth in key positions and also some experience because over the last two years we brought in nine eighteen year olds. So we're a pretty young side at the moment with some really good talent and we'll keep developing that.
01:06:15
Speaker 2: The one thing that has been loud is the noise surrounding Zach Butters. And there's a couple of schools of thought and how you approach these sorts of things. You either back yourself in and say we can re sign him and we're going to give ourselves the best chance of doing that, or you get ahead of it and start negotiating a trade when you've got maximum leverage, that is, he's got another year under contract. What's the club's approach being to dealing with Zach Butters and plotting that out on the whiteboard at Alberton.
01:06:43
Speaker 4: Well, the approach with Zach, and Zach's approach to us is he's got another year to go in his contract, and Zach is a competitive beast. He loves playing Port Adelaide and also with the team. And look, obviously he's one of the best midfielders, if not the best midfielder in our our view, still scores reasonable Brown low vote, even though he's a bit of a yappy player, which I don't like. So that's a that's a that's a testament to how good he is. And look, he's he's a key player for us going forward and we've just got to show success and treat him well. And he's good, but every player is different, they have different circumstances and we're really confident that Zach will be a long term, a long term member of the club, and we've already sort of started talking about future deals. But he's highly attractive to other clubs and they don't mind talking about it.
01:07:55
Speaker 2: So this, Is there any truth to the reports that Zach Barter is at a coach the club and he sought some advice around potentially being traded this off season.
01:08:07
Speaker 4: No, and Judg mccripsle was pretty clear about that the other day, and is his press conference during trade week that Zach's never approached us about He's settled in for next year. Here and mixed George yards are living together and they're looking forward to a great preseason.
01:08:29
Speaker 2: Cost you what left field question I wanted to ask you about the state of I'm not sure if it's a reflection of the global economy or the local economy of what's happening in the United States, but the gold price over the last twelve months. Gold historically doesn't fluctuate a whole lot. People call it a store of value or a defensive asset, something you invest in if you're maybe a little bit concerned about what the stock market's going to do or other bits and pieces, because it is gold. At the end of the day, you've got something physical there that it has utility, a store of value, store of value. So when it goes up somewhat dramatically for gold purpose, there's almost fifty percent over the last twelve months. Some people's reading of that is there's real nervousness around the state of the global economy. Is that your reading? And are you surprised how much it's increased in twelve months.
01:09:16
Speaker 4: I am surprised how much it's increased in twelve months. But you've got a disruptive president of the United States disrupted two financial markets. Financial markets hate that. He has constantly said that the American dollar is overvalued, and that's been hurting the US.
01:09:40
Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 4: A lot of central banks around the world and they build up levels of US dollars as a store of value. It's the global currency, as the global trading currency. When the president of that currency goes well, it's too high and is affecting the economy, central banks start to to look at alternatives, and they've been looking at going back to gold. Central banks over the last twelve months have bought almost four hundred and twenty tons of gold as a way of shoring up their currency and their economy as well. So it's an enormous reflection of the uncertainty of financial markets, and particularly the economic and financial policies of the United States, which had no stability to them at the at all. Each day, you know, there's some change of mind on tariffs or buying into local companies, and the whole lot countries and markets don't like that. Up fifty percent, you say, top four thousand US dollars last night.
01:10:46
Speaker 2: Great for US.
01:10:47
Speaker 4: It's because we're one of the biggest gold miners in the world. It's now our second most valuable export, which you believe, So yeah, it's really healthy for us.
01:10:58
Speaker 2: Hey.
01:10:58
Speaker 3: Course you were talking earlier about the sort of negative impact of social media and more so AI sort of search engines that are used by Facebook and Google and so forth, with things like the case of that poor missing boy gas Can I ask you, wearing your tourism chief hat, do you think that people need to sort of sort the wheep from the chaff a bit better when it comes to making informed decisions about where they can and should holiday for summer. Because we're sort of trying valiantly to talk to the experts here to get an accurate picture of what's happening in South Australia. But you type the word al will bloom in the Internet and it sounds like, you know, the body of our caseline.
01:11:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and it goes berserk. And because people inquire, then the algorithm say, ok, I'm going to flood you with all all this information and as you say, a lot of it is misinformation going through.
01:11:57
Speaker 7: And look, I think the.
01:12:01
Speaker 4: Education process is difficult to get the facts through when there's so much noise around and misinformation. In terms of social media, the vast majority of beaches in South Australia are clear and some of the pristine beaches around Kinger Island aren't being touched. A lot of the concentration is around the suburban beaches, which puts at top of mind and in the eyeballs of a lot more people. But it's just a matter of checking where you want to go and the alga bloom keeps moving. The Premiere I thought did a great job the other day in giving an update on where it is at the moment and take advantage of the vouchers coastal vouchers which have gone gangbusters, just still see and travel around this beautiful state. Because for a lot of the tourism operators from now until March is when they when they make their money to get them through winter, so we've got to really support them and a lot of towns economic world being is based on that as well.
01:13:13
Speaker 3: One hundred David Cosh, the Port Adelaiu Football Club chairman, Compare the Market Economic Director and also the chairman of the Esachos and Commission. Always great to catch up Cosh you we'll talk again soon.
01:13:23
Speaker 4: Thanks you guys.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five Double a Breakfast, Pemba and Will Vicar.
01:13:32
Speaker 20: Congratulations boys, ten years.
01:13:33
Speaker 2: What a medioric rise is.
01:13:36
Speaker 3: Even to the point I just want to give your heads up here, but I actually.
01:13:40
Speaker 2: Nominated you boys for the Istrolling Commercial Radio Awards in the Hall of Fame. Got a response back last week that the award show has been permanently canceled forever. Thanks ten years and obviously you've ruined it for everyone.
01:13:56
Speaker 22: They're surprisingly big athors that he like the two sons from thirty ninety drive.
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Speaker 2: If you think it's true FITZI was lying about the Australian Commercial Radio Awards being no more. He's not there. We didn't realize it was our fault.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they Maybe they canceled them because Kyle Sanelans kept going to them. Remember that year that he won he won a Lifetime Achievement award, didn't he Well.
01:14:25
Speaker 2: He won someone.
01:14:26
Speaker 3: I think there was a bunch of us walked out, is that right, including some people who worked for his radio station. Really, I was talking to a woman whose job it was at that radio station to remove ads from advertisers who did not want to be associated with their show. So I say, hypothetically, Bunning says, we're going to advertise on that network in every single time slot apart from six to nine.
01:14:48
Speaker 2: When they're on Well the Way to make a crust. I'll tell you what they got there to come up toast. Yeah, I was going to say, do you think ACMUS send them thank you letters for you know, making sure that departments will well resource to completely keeps them busy.
01:15:04
Speaker 3: There's probably fifty public servants to be unemployed with that.
01:15:07
Speaker 2: Kylon jackis exactly right eight double two three double double as our Abika textas on zero four zero eight thirty ninety five as well, of course on any topic the Police Home Care text line. We'll get some of your thoughts and feedback in just a moment, but first it is time for breaking it up.
01:15:26
Speaker 3: For there used to be a time when if you enter the latter box and got your bit of alarming mail from the state government, you open the enve realized it was.
01:15:35
Speaker 2: A water bill, you'd breathe a sigh of relief.
01:15:37
Speaker 3: Getting a water billins Outh Australia for a long time was a painless experience will not say anymore. Water bills have surged, and the premiere last year said that they'd be increasing by an average from memory, I think you said of eighty five dollars a year to help pay for infrastructure, for new.
01:15:54
Speaker 2: Housing developments and so on.
01:15:56
Speaker 3: Well, against that backdrop, new data is out confirming the fact that the biggest increase in complaints to the Energy and Water onbardsmen about bills is an electricity. It's not gas, it's water SA water as well, and truly in the frame with a surge in the number of complaints. We've got the obardsman on the line now, Sandy Canale, Sandy, good morning, and thanks so much for your time. The situation with water bills, it's changed in record time. They have become punishingly expensive now for a lot of people, haven't they.
01:16:29
Speaker 2: Good morning.
01:16:29
Speaker 10: Chance.
01:16:30
Speaker 17: Look, the billing aspect of water has certainly generated more complaints over the past twelve months, but we need to put that into context as well. I mean, we handled around nine three hundred complaints last year overall, and water complaints represented around you know, six one hundred and forty three of those, of which about fifty percent related to billing type issues, So it's not necessarily about the quantum.
01:16:58
Speaker 2: Of the bill.
01:16:59
Speaker 17: Yes, it is about the quantum of the bill in terms of the reason for the complaint, but the reason may not be because of an increase or whatnot. It may be that there's been a water leak on the property which is generated a higher than normal bill. That tends to be the dominant reason for complaints, and you know generally it'll be around the usage that they can't actually account for, So that's the type of complaint that we will generate serve.
01:17:30
Speaker 3: Were any of the complaints whether related because we've had a protracted drought, We've been talking all year about how low the rainfall who's been compared to previous autumns and winter. Are there any people who just complained to you because they just couldn't believe the size of their bill.
01:17:47
Speaker 17: Absolutely, and as I said, predominant when we look into it, the bill is actually accurate and it represents what's gone through the meter. But unfortunately for the customer, the problem is probably more related to either increased usage because of the weather or there's a leak on the property, and you know, both of those will generally cause alarm, and when we sort of work our way through those, more often than not the bill is actually accurate and the consumption's actually occurred.
01:18:18
Speaker 3: What about power, what's the what's the what can you glean from the feedback you've got it from people's power bills?
01:18:26
Speaker 17: Yeah, Look, power bills probably are in a different sort of quadrant. They generally you have seen.
01:18:33
Speaker 9: Significant increases over the last few years, and.
01:18:37
Speaker 17: For a number of customers that's now causing quite a bit of pressure in terms of being able to pay those bills when they fall due and payable.
01:18:45
Speaker 20: With many of the.
01:18:47
Speaker 17: Customers, again the consumption is accurate, or they have been moved to what's referred to as a time of use tariff, where energy is paid depending on when you actually use the energy. But there's been no change by the customer in moving their energy use around, and so the bill compounds and gets higher.
01:19:07
Speaker 9: Than what they would have expected.
01:19:09
Speaker 17: You know, people falling off contracts and not perhaps looking around for better offers, and you know, all those things add up to a bill which perhaps they weren't expecting. So a fair bit of our purportall fair bit of the work has actually been in helping customers understand how to navigate their way through the market, how to perhaps obtain a better offer in the market, but also understanding the type of tariff structure that they're actually on so that they can actually modify the way they use energy in the home.
01:19:39
Speaker 3: And just finally, standing in your capacity as energy and water Onwardsman, have you seen a stabilization, an increase, a decrease. What's happened with the number of South Aussies in build stress.
01:19:54
Speaker 17: Look, most of the retailers, and I'm talking predominantly the energy retails, although we say water has a similar sort of program. First of all, they're obligated to offer assistance programs. Sometimes they're referred to as hardship programs, And what that actually means is that if you are struggling to pay your bill, it might be a short term problem, you know, cash flow type issue, something's happened in the home, or whatever it might be. They will put you onto a payment plan which will help you through that short term. For some customers it's more long term. Lots of jobs, you know, lots of family member or whatever that might be. There are programs which assist people over twelve twenty four months, whatever it might actually be. So we've actually seen a significant reduction in the number of customers actually facing disconnection, which I think has been very positive and useful. So most of the providers themselves are assisting customers. Where people fall through the cracks, then that's what we're there for, to help make sure that they get that assistance that they need. And the last thing we want anyone who's been disconnected from a utility.
01:21:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Sandy canally the energy and water on. But it's been thank you for joining us this morning for breaking it out.
01:21:08
Speaker 2: The Shadow Treasurer Sam Telfer is called in on this Sam. Good morning to you.
01:21:12
Speaker 28: Yeah, good morning Jents.
01:21:13
Speaker 2: What did you make of all that? Sam?
01:21:15
Speaker 19: Oh?
01:21:16
Speaker 24: And sadly, I'm probably not surprised.
01:21:18
Speaker 28: I mean we've been talking about this for the last couple of years, boys, because to have such a massive increase into the water price in one big hit and then follow up is really a massive extra burden on people at the moment and the cost of living challenges they're facing and really starting to really hit the back pocket. And when we have a situation like you've pointed out, we've got a dry season and people are using more water, it's only exacerbating the problem. I mean, this is why we've said all the way along it can't be greedy as a government when it comes to water bills because in the end people are going to get to a point where they can't pay it. If we're going to be funding important water infrastructure for how development, do it out of the government general revenue. Do it as an investment in housing into the future. Don't slug the existing customers that are already doing it tough do.
01:22:09
Speaker 2: The state Leberls have?
01:22:10
Speaker 3: Is that a formal policy position that if you were elected, you would revoke the increases that the Melanowskis government put on for new housing developments.
01:22:18
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's the bit that there's been put on over and above the CPI, which we say isn't justified.
01:22:24
Speaker 24: You know, you need to dial it back.
01:22:26
Speaker 25: We've said this.
01:22:27
Speaker 28: Will been strong on this all the way through. Need to dial back that extra and make the extra money that's necessary for water infrastructure to come out of general operations where you can actually, like I said, get that money back over time with the investment in housing. It's not a you know, we shouldn't be using say water as labour always do as a cash core for more and more money into the coffers of the state. We should be doing it in recognition of the amount of infrastructure investment that is currently happening, and not using it as a as a revenue source for government.
01:22:59
Speaker 3: Seem Tel for Shadow treasure, I thank you for calling in the shadow Treasure has comming through a line with a lot of the feedback that we're getting from our listeners like Scott in Modbury. Are good mate, Scott, and also Scott, thank you for the nice text you sent thanking us for our ten years of gibbering away together. We're glad you're enjoyed the show. But it's more importantly says so boys, then we get this straight. My water bill went up to pay for infrastructure for new houses. So not only is my neighborhood getting ruined by three houses being where there used to be one, I'm also paying more for privilege.
01:23:28
Speaker 2: Andrew makes a good point, he says, morning, the problem with my water bill is the charge for sewerage based on property value. This is obscene. Thank you, Andrew. Yeah, you know a lot of people. If you've lived the same house for thirty years and then with the same sewage system. But because of property it's the property exchanges that you have absolutely nothing to do with.
01:23:52
Speaker 3: What's like council rates. I mean, it's based on the value of your home. But the fact that your house might have been worth six hundred grand and overnight the real estate fair has decided that theoretically it's worth one point three even though you're not going.
01:24:05
Speaker 2: To sell it.
01:24:06
Speaker 3: How does the house become more expensive for the council to maintain when it goes from six hundred grand to one point three million? Do you end up with sevens instead?
01:24:15
Speaker 2: Won't? It's not liquid. You can't go, well, my house is worth an extra seven hundred grand, so I guess I'll sell a couple of doors to pay for the increase of my water bill. Yeah, that's right. There's nothing liquid about that asset. It's totally unrealized.
01:24:26
Speaker 3: We found out last week too. If you try to sneak it in in and out the back and put in a new letter box, you w ended up getting paixactly right fine for.
01:24:32
Speaker 2: It when we found out about that. All right, we're going to take a break and we're going to there's a bit going on in Kangaro Island Way and We're going to talk about it with the Mayor, Michael Pingilli in just a moment.
01:24:41
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after right. It looks like a pretty reasonable day outside of the moment chatting with the weather bureau earlier, it's a pretty steady weather pattern. You can pretty much sit your watch by the fact that it's going to be nineteen or twenty or twenty one degrees over the course of the next week, with the next four or five scotty somewhere between. Yeah, scattered shower is a good way of describing it. Dry Monday and Tuesday. But if this is to your liking this weather, you're gonna love the rest of this week. Eight double two three double is the open line number if you'd like to chat about anything that's going on in the news cycle at the moment. Lots of feedback on water bills on the program this morning, indeed coming through on the Police Home Care text line as well a lot of people that entered the competition we ran in the first hour this morning talking about run ins with wildlife and it was inspired by this remarkable story on Kangar Island. We're a man and there's now vision of this it will see throughout the day. Who was surfing? It was happened upon by In fact, we've got on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. Now he's surfing and what you will see in this video is a shark pursuing a seal. He unfortunately gets caught between them and when the shark loses side of the seal, obviously court eyes on him. He was bitten twice and drove himself the hospital. It is a remarking story. Michael Bengilli is the mayor of the Kanger Island Council and joins us on the program. Michael, good morning. Do you just tell us about the sewer?
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Speaker 8: This this.
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Speaker 2: Famous surfing spot in k.
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Speaker 10: I yeah, good morning Dave and your listeners. Look, the sewer is a well known spot on the south coast. We've got numbers of places over here where we've got considerable numbers of surfers go regularly. And I think this blake yesterday is probably up for a new wet suit and new pair of jocks after that.
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Speaker 24: But look, it's a pretty.
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Speaker 10: Spectacular southern coastline. The dar Street Bay down there, you have a big long Sandy Beach, and you go around a bit furd and you come by these little beaches and one of them is called the Sewer's been called the sewer as long as I can remember, and on certain winds the sewer works isn't said to be much surf. I saw the video last night. Didn't seem to be a lot of surf there, but there may have been sometime during the day that. Yeah, he's pretty bloody lucky.
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Speaker 2: I reckon Dave absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Mike said, this part of K's there's not even a community there is there.
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Speaker 2: It's like the bay. There's the bay, how do you say it? The street's bay, But no one really lives there today.
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Speaker 10: No, it's directly south of Kingscote. Actually the road runs in a straight line straight down there. It's west of Pennington Bay. But yes, there are a few people who live down there in the scrub. There's I don't know how many be down there, probably ten or a dozen homes and some holiday places. There's been some long term shacks along the coast, been there for generations of families, which you know well loved. Yeah, part of that's now National park. Unfortunately it's been dragged into that mess and the sewers in that. Who is part of that?
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Speaker 3: But yeah, the hospital that he drove to, it's in Kingskate. How long is the drive from the Stry's Bay to Kingscap What is about an our? Forty five minutes?
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Speaker 10: Oh no, no, no, thirty thirty five perhaps probably probably.
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Speaker 2: Twenty If you're bleeding out, Michael, I reckon.
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Speaker 10: It's going to say, if you're a lot less of you had a shark, you go like the Clappers, lucky, so lucky, so lucky.
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Speaker 2: Michael, from sharks to bees. I'm sure you're across the story. The state government put out some advice this morning about the wonderful and very unique around the world be population in on Kangaroo Island that is potentially a victim of vroamite now coming into South Australia. They've announced a program for biosecurity checks, a sentinel hive program, and they're going to be checking all the selic fairies that go over from here on out. I presume this is something that you guys have been calling for.
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Speaker 10: I love, we're very comfortable with it. So Minister Clais Gribven was here Friday. She met with the local commercial producers and the ones that do it for a bit of fun in the council chambers was open to people to go in. I think she reinforced the fact that they started putting bio security checks on every boat, where it was sometimes only during the day, but they've ramped that up to every boat. Now it's virtually impossible to stop everything. But there's cars coming down, our vehicles coming down through the river land where there has been varia might up that way. So anything we can do to limit it is helpful. But these things, you know, I'll get sucked into radiators, more sorts of things, Dave. So look, we're pleas that that's happened. It's a step in the right direction. It doesn't ensure that we won't get vera might here. But our Lagurian bees, as you well know, are the purest strain of Ligurian bees left in the world, so they're pretty industry. We've got a high than an old chimney on our place to spend there for decades. Actually well it's tetan of interest, but no, no, I'm quite quite happy where that's at.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. May and Michael Pengelly always wrote our chats and the Mayor of Kangar Island. We have the care Alert smart dialer, Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fortune in the studio with us. It could win you aker alert smart die. It could also use your home care package through my Age Care or the NDAs for a CA alert for free visit caerlert dot com dot Are you the way this works? We'll give it a spin. Each number corresponds with a birth year. If it's yours, you simply need to be the first caller through. So mister Penberg, we can give it a spin. We'll give it a spin and try with all you might for it not to come up. Number nineteen. The number is thirteen thirteen. Lucky for some this morning, number thirteen. So the year is nineteen thirty seven. Nineteen thirty seven. So someone who's eighty eight or turning eighty eight this year eineteen thirty seven was the year that Amelia Earhart disappeared. That that ill fated fight around the globe over them over the Pacific when from memory, I think no one on they had an instrumentation issue with the radio on board, and nobody on board knew Morse code, so they couldn't communicate their position to anyone, and it was the sort of an oversight that of that journey that they didn't know, so they were never found amazing. Someone will know better than I do, that's my It was something like that. There was there was an issue on board, and there was a there was a technology of the time that was available that they just didn't have any expertise in that would have potentially saved them or at least been at a workout their positioning. But we'll have someone who is more across Amelia than I certainly am.
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Speaker 3: Pretty hominous year in history, nineteen thirty seven, wasn't The Spanish Civil War had been going for a year. The Francoists invaded Spain and started their war against the government there, and everything was kicking off in Western Europe. Would have been a scary time to be bringing a children in the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, most certainly. Well, but pay dividend because they're gonna wear a carol it smart. Eighty eight years later, eighty seven years later, eight years later, what did I say? Eighty eight eighty eight years later? Yeah, all right? Eight double two three, double five is the number actually on that onus of stuffing up? Now, Well, I was going to say, I always want to read this text out because it suddenly it works. It was from Kaz, our wonderful listener, Caz, who says, greetings, congratulations ten years of being informed, but more importantly entertained, especially by your collective wonderful mats. You should be celebrating that four out of three people struggle with mats. Thank you for that, Kaz, and we love proving our listeners, right.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 29: Hi David and Will. Jane Riley here and I'm still in bed. I've got to say, I'm just calling in to congratulate you on your ten year partnership. What an amazing duo you are on Breakfast Radio. I'm so proud of being part of your amazing journey being out on the road on the early days reporting on the weather and anything else that was happening out and about around Adelaide. You have an incredible chemistry. Wishing you all the best and congratulations and his to the next ten years.
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Speaker 13: Dealer Today, Deep and pen Berthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast Joan.
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Speaker 2: The ten years is officially Friday. My fear is we're going to run out of people who like us by the time we get to Friday. Jane Riley was a It was a huge part of the show. Jane Riley is the reason we have meat Trey Friday. Yeah. It started with a butcher and Capunda from memory, that's right. She brought the meat down and we thought we're going to give it away, and then that's how the idea was born. And Jane is and someone actually sent through us a text earlier, so they estimate we've given away fifty two thousand dollars worth of meet over the course of the journey. It's been going the whole time we've been together.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think we started it when it was when it was Jane and Mark and I No, didn't we but I know it was when Jane was on the road. It was when Jane was on the road. It was probably in our first year. It was very early in the piece. Working with Jane was such a pleasure and I used to joke to her that as a little boy, Jane used to I used to go to sleep with Jane. She'd put me to bed at night with fat Cat, and forty years later I was waking up with Jane.
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Speaker 2: Yeah to work with it, and knowing Jane, I imagine she never used that as an opportunity for a double on tendre. Jane has got the edgiest sense of human James, one of the funniest and loveliest people ever met your entire life. She was working with it yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Great, Hey, can I just do a shout out to well whoever. I've got this idea for a feature article that I want to write for The Australian over the next couple of weeks. And what I'm looking for I'm looking.
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Speaker 2: For three people.
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Speaker 3: Who used to work at the Holden factory and who still live in the Northern Suburbs. And what I want to do is just meet the three of you for a coffee, come out to wherever you are. We'll find a place that's central for everyone, and I just want to talk to you about your experience of working out Holden, the demise of the car industry. I want to get your thoughts about Australian manufacturing, about jobs in blue collar communities, and the backdrop to it, because I've got this hunch that there's been a bit of a sort of lefty pylon against Andrew Hasty. But I think some of the points that he's made will be of interest to people who grew up in the play for the era as kids knowing that there was a trade for them, there was a job for them that they could work at Chrysler, that they could work at Holden. So if you're keen, just ping us a text and say you know, yes, and I'd want to come out and meet the three of you. Bring a photographer, we'll get a shot of you, get your get your mug in the in the National broadsheet. But if you're keen, just as a text on the text line mental blank, what is.
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Speaker 2: The text zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five, or you can call it and speak to Patty. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And if anyone's keen, Emily, it would just be chance to have a coffee and a yack.
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Speaker 2: Peculiarly for a left wing pilon and Andrew Hasty, considering that it was the left that was, you know, doing in favor of the incentives doing keep the car industry.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing that interests me because it's sort of it's a bit like the sort of policy overlap between the traditional blue collar Democrats represented by Bernie Sanders, Yes and Trump.
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Speaker 2: And what's just what there's members of the Democrats in America who think tariff's are a pretty good idea. There's plenty of them. It's because but then you look.
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Speaker 3: At the other stream of the Democrats, epitomized by Hillary Clinton, Gliblis things to the people of Virginia like, Yeah, for me, a lot of we're gonna be a lot of co workers losing their jobs. That's a great message if you're at a fundraiser in Washington, DC. Not a good one if you're you know, in the appellations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the most powerful thing Andrew Hasty did in that video as we move on and you can't do this often in politics, but when you do it, if you do it occasionally, it's very powerful. He said, we got it wrong. Yeah, and it was self criticism. That's right, because it was the living it's so rare. Now if you come out all the time and go, whoops, we stuffed that one up, eventually will go well, let's get in someone who doesn't Yeah, but if occasionally you reflect as a politician and say that was a mistake, it can be to your benefit. And my sense is that was very much to his benefit in that video.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think too that smart people in the Labor Party. The person who worries that most is him, because it's a message that res and I think there's little seeds of something. I was looking at all the results in all of the federal seats in South Australia, the smallest swings to labor were in the northern suburbs. The biggest swings to labor are in you know, Goodwood and Burnside.
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Speaker 2: The more middle class.
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Speaker 3: It's more it's this sort of the left wing party that was the Workers Party becoming the party of the middle class.
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Speaker 2: And this is why Coots was interesting the other day when.
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Speaker 3: He said, Wope, politics has been a disaster for parties of the center and the center left because it's just pushing blue collar people are going, why are we talking about this crap. I'm trying to, you know, make sure my kids have got a job. So anyway, if anyone's keen and pick us a text and we'll meet for coffee.
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Speaker 2: One thing we are talking about here that is very much front of mine has been the impact of the alcall bloom, and that there's perhaps a few groups that have been more acutely affected than our recreational fishes. Well that's the state government are investigating the possibility of lifting bands on a number of freshwater lakes and reserves across the state, places like the advertisers reporting Thornton Park Reserve and Paradise. And this will be controversial freshwater Lake at Delphin Island. Of course, vigilante residents still to attacking kids who tried to fish there in an attempt to give recfishes a place to go fishing. The other thing they would do is release more species out there. Asha Desires, the executive officer for Redfish Sa Asher, good morning to you. Does this sound like a good idea?
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Speaker 30: Yeah, absolutely, It's something we've advocated for right from the start and something we're working through with the Freshwater Working Group as part of the state government's response.
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Speaker 3: So, Asha, are we only we're just talking about freshwater Yeah, yeah, currently.
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Speaker 30: Yes, So we're looking opening new sites and reservoirs as well as stocking a whole heap of native species around the states.
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Speaker 3: So what sort of fish are we going to release, So it depends on the.
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Speaker 30: Area and sort of the natural biodiversity. But you've obviously got horses for courses, so you wouldn't be putting maray cod in in small council lakes that sort of run dry. You wouldn't do it because they reach a meter long. And also some sites are any suitable for periodic stocking on cold water species in the winter, for example, like trout. So it's really hard to stay which areas and what species. But in short term we're looking at golden perch, silver perch, and potentially even some regionally extinct species, which.
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Speaker 9: Could be really cool.
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Speaker 2: That's a great idea.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think, what about reservoirs, because are you allowed to fish like at Myponger. I know they've got the area there where you can go kayaking. Now can you fish in the reservoir there?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 30: Absolutely, And it's actually a really good site and we're working towards some pretty exciting projects there, which I'm sure you hear about in the next couple of weeks. But across all of the reservoirs you can go fishing, and the ones that are cleared for that and we're certainly pushing for a lot more access to resids around the state because there's some great facilities that are just being underutilized.
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Speaker 2: How quickly can you turn around the release of fish into a freshwater body of water and go fishing there. Do you have to have time for the pop to betty in order to grow or can you release an adult fish and then go fishing straight away.
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Speaker 30: Yeah, so that's something Recklishes they're really good at. We're good at activating sites for immediate fishing. So we can do murray cod tro out things like that and you'll be catching them within two days. So we did that recently at Valley Laking that Gambia, and the first murray cod got caught I Reckon about twenty four hours after the release. Well, but then they get pretty smart pretty quick, which is exactly what we want. We don't want them getting caught flood out. We want them to wise up smart enough and then they actually become a real challenge, which they are now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, these waterways that we're talking about, they are they free of the scourge of carp asha.
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Speaker 30: Not all of them, and to be fair, most of them do have carp in them, and the good thing that natives is they're really competitive at a larger size, So we're advocating for growing out fingling so that we're not putting in tiny fish. We're putting in larger fish, which obviously creates meat fisheries and really gives carp a hit on the head. So same thing we did in Valley Lakeymount, Gambia. We put cot up to a meter in there. Well started feeding on those carp hards. So they're real good by a control agent, and they're actually good for the environment in a competitive sense as well.
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Speaker 3: What an interesting story, what a good idea actually desire. The executive officer of Reckfish sa.
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Speaker 2: Hey, big congrats to Norm from West Beach to he was born January nineteen thirty seven and thus was eligible for the Carelert Smart dial This morning, Norm, it's all yours the Carelert smart dialer as we spun the wheel. The year that came up was nineteen thirty seven. You can also get the kre alert by using your home care package through my Age Care or the ndies and you might even get that care alert for free that way. Simply visit caer alert dot com dot AU.
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Speaker 3: Lovely message from our good mate Terry in Henley Beach. He says, congratulations on your ten years. I've been retired for eleven now and have enjoyed for the most every morning since, wishing all the best for the next in. Who knows the lips might even be back by then and you can finally retire to just kidding. Congratulations again and all the very best.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Terry. We appreciate Terry is that Theory is one of our listeners who we enjoy interacting with the most. Not just Terry, I mean the style of listener who can vehemently disagree, passionately cares about politics and things only, but gets that that's part of the cut and thrust correct, correct. And we've got conservative listeners like Scott and Mobray.
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Speaker 3: Who some similar earlier yea, where it's like, you know, people on either sides of the political divide.
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Speaker 2: They both disagree with us.
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Speaker 3: Hammer and Thomas exactly fit sitting ponss. But we love all the messages and we love the chat. So good on you, Terry. Thank you for that, mate.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Eight minutes two nine, The five double golf days not far away. We're partnering with Phil Hoffman Travel at the wonderful Glenell Golf Club on the seventeenth of October. And the best thing is you could be there for your chance to win. Simply had to FIVEAA dot com dot AU and register now this Friday we'll be calling someone as our lucky winner. Don't miss out all thanks to fill Off and Travel creating moments you'll never forget. Visit PhD dot com dot ef for hundreds of exclusive deals. Now we've been in contact with the airport about an incident we've been alerted to on the Police Home Care text line regarding a REX flight that saw people disembark on the tarmac. It looked like an emergency situation. This is the information though it was a scheduled flight to Broken Hill. Now, there was a mechanical fault on board the plane. Passengers had to disembark on the tarmac, so the runway was closed for about twenty minutes, reopened at eight am. So there may be delays that have come about, perhaps not, but there was a mechanical fault on board a REX flight that meant people had to get off on the tarmac had to be closed. Flight to Broken Hill. Doubtless we'll be hearing more information about that over the course of the day. When we spoke with Sapol a little bit earlier, Sergeant Peter Williams gave us a remarkable account of the exploits of a burglar overnight in Rundle Moore. Well, Peter Caldecot for seven years is at the scene and has been retracing the steps of a man who helped himself to some of the very fine stuff that's on offering Rundle Moore PC. Good morning to you. He certainly covered some ground this big well.
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Speaker 24: Yes, this is a bit of a bizarre break in. I'm here at the underground food hall at the Myer Center where just after three am security guards actually arrested a guy who was here snooping around. Somehow he's managed to get into the my Center, I'm not sure exactly how, and then gone through some of the stalls down here, like the kios and stuff, and when the security guards arrested him, they found he was in possession of a laptop and some key fobs. And we've just had a lot at some of the security footage down here and you can see him just wandering around at three o'clock in the morning, sort of helping himself, which is kind of bizarz. You wouldn't have thought this would be the place you'd break into or was try and steal anything, But that seems to be the case.
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Speaker 3: So was anyone else in there at that time, Peter, or did they just find out that he was there? By just monitoring the video well.
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Speaker 24: On the CCTV, you can see there are a security guard sort of wandering around, obviously after he was arrested. Police are here, and there's a couple of delivery guys sort of delivering bread or other goods. So maybe he followed one of those guys into the building. But it's really like Fort Knox down here, and to get him there's not an easy feat. But he's quite eerie watching this guy just wandering around at three in the morning, sort of helping himself to whatever he liked.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Thanks for that piece, he Peter old Coop for seven years adelaide at the Myer Center. If I was left to my own devices in the food court at the Myer Center, I'd go straight to that Eros place in the corner.
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Speaker 2: They did great Eros.
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Speaker 3: Is that right, it's really good euros. I'm just starting to mentally rank Euroses.
01:47:15
Speaker 2: There's a really good one on Omley Road.
01:47:19
Speaker 3: Yarnis of course in Hinley Street, although disappointedly went there the other day it was closed for redevelopment.
01:47:24
Speaker 2: There's another good one near the qu e h. This could be This should be your next OZ feature.
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Speaker 3: Imagine ringing the Sydney News desk. I've got an idea for a storing for Saturday and ten best euroshops. They had move papers. They even know what they are in Sydney. Well they call them a gyro, don't they well know they call them gyros in Melbourne, but they call them donu kebabs in Sydney. But having said that, the donor kebab is a different proposition. The donor kebab is that beautiful Arabic shaved beef that's pressed into it's like a giant kofta and they shave it and it comes with tabuli. And yeah, it's a different it's more of a Middle Eastern thing. But because of our Hellenic heritage, the eros here in Adaly is a good thing.
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Speaker 2: I'll buy that paper worth sell significantly. Let's check traffic before we leave this morning, not traffic. Should I say, let's check the fuel situation. Better be a member with RAA road service. I've got my roads confused. Fuel watch. The mobile northeast right at Gillis Planes is the cheapest. That one's still in the mid dollar fifties dollar fifty five point five. Otherwise over a dollar sixty is still not bad. The mobile Shadow Park, for example, dollar sixty one point five and down south of Christie's Beach. Also the shell ow tier dollar sixty one point nine. So if you're down south, you're going to get it at just over a dollar sixty. But as Gillis Planes tells us, out north, mid dollar fifties still the cheapest diesel. Diesels come off a little touch. The cheapest today at dollars sixty nine point five. Also, the mobile at Shadow Park was yesterday it was the mid dollars, So diesels come down a tick even as an unleaded has risen. That's just about all from us on this Wednesday morning. Thank you for all your wonderful messages about the ten year anniversary that's coming up this Friday. I've heard from some former contributors and current contributors to the program this morning, so I've had a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Messages and also am Andy and Roseworthy. Andy is the first cab off the rank for my ex Holden worker experiment. He worked a Holding for seven years.
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Speaker 2: Mate.
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Speaker 3: I'll get in touch with your pingy of text. Probably won't catch up for coffee until well whatever suits everyone, but for later next week or something. But glad that I've already got one taker and hopefully you get a couple.
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Speaker 2: More so, if you are interested as someone of a former Holden worker that lives in the Northern Suburbs, you can get touch with our producers Patty Emily, or you can flick us a text on the Police Homecare text line. You'll be sitting down for a chat with David for a piece in the Australian, which I think would be a make a fascinating read, perhaps even more so than the top ten year oss joints. Graham Goodings is coming up next. We will catch you tomorrow morning for a socer rollo.
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Speaker 1: I think you should David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five Double A Breakfast nine.
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Speaker 2: Minutes after SIIX. Good morning to you and welcome to Wednesday and five Double A Breakfast the eighth of October. We're taking you to Lake Air shortly. It's been flooded and looking spectacular, but the water is beginning to evaporate. So if you wanted to ever get there to see lake Air and flood our outback Pilot Trevor Wright's going to be on very shortly, and I think he's going to say you need to get in fast. We'll talk about that in just a moment. Also, the government's knife amnesty wrapped up. More than three thousand knives, machetes and swords have all been surrendered. We'll talk to the Attorney General about whether that constitutes success for that particular policy. And then a little bit later in the morning, Sean fust is going to join us. We'll go around the courts. We've got David Kohn on the program from the Port Adelaide Football Club and we're going to chat with some parents and also the CEO of the Education Standards Board about the I'll tell you what this would be absolutely upheaval in your world. If you're a parent relying on the Edge Early Learning Center at Plympton, it has been closed, of course because of those allegations regarding the insufficient supervision of children. They've been extended now into next year. Now, good luck trying to find an alternate. If you're a parent, we're going to speak speaking with the mother on after seven o'clock this morning. That's a big story. Love you to be part of the show. Eight double two three double double will jump off the police Home care text line. David Penberthy, good morning to you, Good morning.
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning listeners. Yeah, what a nightmare for those families. Although I would say that rather than planning, you know, break the habit of a lifetime, let's not blame the government for of course, reckon.
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Speaker 2: These joecare centers need to get their house in order. Well, it's sort of caught betwixt and between his a parent. I mean, obviously they'd like the childcare option to be there, but they'd also like it to be compliant. Yeah, that's right with basic things like supervising kids.
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Speaker 3: This Edge company, I reckon they having a shocker. They won't pop their head up behind the parapet to reassure anyone that they're okay. They seem to be knee jerk and responsive to everything that comes out.
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Speaker 2: Anyway. We'll get into that later. Now, Will you're a man.
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Speaker 3: Who who gives no quarter in a contest with a fish.
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Speaker 2: What about?
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Speaker 3: What about for those who don't know, Will was attacked by a titan Titan triggerfish?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Correct, Titan trigger still have the scars? Do you scar still have the scar? No? Not really. It was in Mauritius one only emotionally. So it sat the sea shells, mad dives, the mawdives. So I knew was that neck of the woods. It looked like a sort of leather jacket on steroids, didn't it. It's a fly fish with buck teeth. It looks like the kind of thing I want to buy you like the drag Queen of the Deep. You talk about it in the context of the heroism of the guy off k I at Destri's Bay who got bitten by a shark twice and then drove himself to the hospital. The thing that made my story and the reason you repeatedly bring it up, is not because it was an act of heroism, but it was the exact opposite, because there was this tiny reef shark that was in the vicinity when I was swimming that I'd seen out of the corner of mine. It went behind me and then they would scare the hell out of any normal person. I got the chomp on the back of my leg, and to say the reaction was anything approaching heroic would be the greatest incident of overstatement in human history. I panicked, David Penboothy and charged to the beach.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think you've been too hard on yourself. If i'd seen a shark, COORD have done exactly the same thing. And I reckon I reckon all of our listeners.
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Speaker 2: This guy, though, is unbelievable. The guy on Kango Island, he drove himself to hospital and look, is that a commentary on ramping?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe might be a commentary on how many ambulance as I've gone on Kango Island as well.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but so he was.
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Speaker 3: It is it di Estri's Bay, one of the least populated parts of Chaos.
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Speaker 2: The sewer is what they call the swimming spot there. I believe the sewer, why is that? I don't want to know.
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Speaker 3: The mind bog was no certainly being ka I. It wouldn't because it's polluted. Because k I is absolutely pristine. So just look at the map of Kango Island for those of you who like me, went there and sort of stayed in the more bougy confines of the island, Beach Pensure, American River Triangle. It's not far away from there. Actually, it's on that southern cape sitting on the other side around from you know, Pennington Bay. Did you drive to Pennington Bay?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 3: Seeing the waves at Pennington night, two things that strike you. On the south side of ki you're looking towards Antarctica.
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Speaker 2: Yes, there's nothing.
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Speaker 3: To stop you from Like if you walked into the water, you would end up in Antarctica.
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Speaker 2: But when you go like Seal Bay, you think anybody sharks are in there? I reckon you must. We just have cajones of steel to want to go surfing in that water. There is remarkable vision that sky had this morning of what they believed to be the shark attacks. Someone was filming the guy surfing, he's the only guy out there, and the shark is clearly chasing a seal, and the seals jumping out of the water, and the sharks swimming towards it, and then the surfer just happened to be between the two of them, and for a second the shark stops lost sight of the seal because the seal was going away to raid a knots. And then clearly it goes, oh, hang on, there it is, and it was the guy on the surfboard. But it was just really because it was all playing out next to him. He wasn't involved in this, this life or death chase. It's like a mistaken ideenta, completely mistaken ideas, was that they think it was a bronze whaler might have done it.
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Speaker 3: There was going after a seal, that was going after a seal. Yeah, no, wonder if he had a black wet suit on good question. Well, Flinder's university just pioneered the new anti shark wetsuits, haven't they. Yeah, but isn't the theory that black wet suits make you look like a seal?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's just to look at the vision. The untrained eye would say, that's precisely what's happened in this case. Or asking you this morning for the James Blunt tickets about your run ins with wildlife, what it doesn't now look It doesn't have to be. I was bitten twice by a shark and drove himself to the hospital level. But if it is is, you're probably going to James Blunt. But it might be you were bitten by an aggressive small fish.
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Speaker 3: Things like when I was about seven on an end of year Flinder's Medical Center Biochemistry department Christmas Family Day was where dad used to work when the hospital started. I was eating a banana paddle pop at Cleveland and there's pelicans.
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Speaker 2: Walk from side to side.
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Speaker 3: One there, you know, gonna hussle you pelican. I got my whole head in the in a pelican, in the sack of a pelican, because it came after me wanting my paddle pop.
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Speaker 2: It bit me on the head, the pelican, the pelican. What in your head was inside the jaws of the pelicans? I was in the sack, the underjaw. I can remember it distinctly. How old were you at the time, about six or seven. That's extraordinary. My mum will vouch you this that it might be the only hostile interaction humans and penguins have ever had. Pelican, I was a pelican. I'm with you, you know that makes more sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, where they catch the fish. I was going to say a penguin makes no sense, I reckon.
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Speaker 3: Heaps of our listeners will have been at least chased by a pelicans.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pelicans can be nasty things. Yeah, big eyes. Yeah no they hate. Now they're onto you. Eight double two to three double a textas on the police. Akare text on about your runnings with Wildlife and it could win you. James Blunt Tickets. He's back in Adelaide on the twenty eighth of October for just one night, playing the back to Bedlam to It. He's the whole album in its entirety. You can get tickets to destroy all lines dot com get calling with your stories with some news headlines coming up David.
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Speaker 1: Penberthy and Will Goodings. Five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Not after six James Blunt Tickets. In the offing, we're asking you about your runnings with Wildlife. Sally in Hillcrest, What did you come face to face with?
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Speaker 5: Mie was actually on Kanngaro Island as well when I was a teenager. We're Flinder's Chase and my parents are gone to try and find the platypus, and my brother and I got stalked by.
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Speaker 6: I need you.
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Speaker 5: My brother got out of the car to grab something and then Amy started charging, so he locked himself in.
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Speaker 3: The car boot your brother or the.
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Speaker 5: And then when I popped the boot like he looked around yet it was safe. He got out and started to go to get back in the car. That Emi charged again and I didn't realize the passenger window was down, and then you had its head in the car. My brother was hitting it trying to get it out.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen Jurassic Park? Have you seen Jurassic Park, Sally?
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Speaker 7: Because I have.
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Speaker 3: It's like they're like they move like velociraptors.
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Speaker 5: They're just as vicious as they are vicious.
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Speaker 2: You're right, Sally, Oh yeah, what what what did the does the inm You deserve it spot on the crest.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's a debate for another day. No stuffing around animal, not eve for a haircut. Sally's there with a brother. The is feels like it. The territory has been. You know, we will decide who comes here in the circumstances.
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Speaker 2: He stands it stands for immigration policy. All right, okay, I my lord, good.
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Speaker 8: Morning, Yeah, good morning. Probably last year I was in bed watching bond with the cats at ten o'clock and I heard this squeak. Next thing, this huge bats circling above my head. Big bat. Cats went berserk because they thought he was the world's biggest moth. And I kind of stumbled out of bed and managed to get him in the lounge room and shut the cats in the kitchen, and for the next forty five minutes, I was sort of waving a butterfly net at him because I know you can't grab them, can't handle on and he kept looming above my head squeaking, and you know, I'm tripping over furniture in a dressing gown and bunny clippers, and every time he came at me, I kind of waved the net at him, and I managed to finally get him to fly low on us because he woke up the Budge, who was getting upset, and I managed to coax him into the porch eventually and finally convince him to go outside. To this day, I don't know what sort of bat he was. He's very pretty. He was gray with black spots, but yeah, it was like something out of a horror movie, sort of just looking up towards something, you know, in the light of the televihion.
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Speaker 2: As you describe it to, it's part horror movie, part slapstick comedy with the bunny zippers a bit. Yeah, yeah, that's actually look a sight.
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Speaker 3: I must admit that is excellent.
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Speaker 2: So out of the poor cat run in with bats and EMUs. So far, lots of good texts coming through. We might get to some more calls shortly on this eight double two three double a double. If you're running with wildlife, if you want to run in with the best that nature has to offer of the pleasant kind. Well, lake Air has been in flood and it looks spectacular at the moment, but there are warnings now that it's beginning to a so this time running out if you do want to get to get to lake Air and check it out. Trevor Wright is an outback pilot operates in the area that we've had on the program previously, and he joins us again this morning. Trevor, good morning to you.
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Speaker 9: Good A guy's hands going, We're good.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Trevor. How's it all looking up there?
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Speaker 9: Still it's looking good. It definitely is starting to receive because of the heat comes through in a bit of wind that we get in September and that there's a bit of water still going into it from the Cooper's Creek and the birdlife's increasing. But from now on in I expect you to start dropping quickly.
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Speaker 3: In terms of the flights over the lake, have you have you had a busy winter period because obviously with the rain it looks sensational. We've got some pictures up now on the Facebook live stream. But you've been doing your rowing trade.
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Speaker 9: No, it's been a great trade. And what's really interesting is is the real interest in it, especially from baby boomers, where whereas the last few years has been fairly quiet, mainly out of South Strain Big, but this year we're getting from all over Australia and it's not unusual to have ten or twelve planes buy in from anywhere around the East Coast and more coming. We had our flay in recently and we had sixty europlanes turn up for the weekend and the main reasons they wanted to have a look at the lake.
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Speaker 3: Oh really, So when you say sixty planes turn up, where do they land? There's no airport?
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Speaker 2: What's the game?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got to do it road. No, we've got a bit of an e Strip and they pull up for the weekend. It was for the AFL Grand Final, so they decided to have a look at the lake, park their planes and they just have a good weekend. Wow, it's amazing how many people we did get into Wing Creek because it's halfway down the end of a track and we're the closest point to the lake. There's a road seventy k that goes out to the shoreline out there and it's a public viewing area.
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Speaker 2: So people part their planes on Grand Final.
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Speaker 3: That sounds like the sort of Cessna version of what used to happen at West Lakes back in the day.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, very similar. Yeah, it's just something we started about eight years ago and it's just been getting bigger and bigger and bigger. It just cool love AFL and and they want to do something different. So you get water in that lake. It just draws people in.
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Speaker 3: Can you actually watch the game? And is there power? Like can you how do you?
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Speaker 2: How do you do it?
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Speaker 10: Oh?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we get your mate to stand on the bicycle and there's a bit of a dynamo.
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Speaker 2: That would be a great story.
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Speaker 3: This is the best place in Australia to watch the Grand final.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think it is. It's good because I am the pub too. Between the tour, between the tour things, we have a pretty social weekend and we shut off the end of data track and turn it into an outdoor dining area for two days.
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Speaker 2: Wow. We just looking at some of the pictures on the Facebook and YouTube live. So it does look spectacular, doesn't it. What a show, It's stunning, It's remarkable. But Trevisa, there's times running out if you want to get it to check it out. Trevor right out back pilot, as he just revealed too. He's the local pub owner. He's got the lake Air market cornered dead. Sounds like a remarkable market to have cornered as well. Let's go to Nova Gardens because Trev's in an encounter with an animal. Morning. Do you, Trev? You're there? Trev?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm here.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: How are you? Trev?
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Speaker 7: Yeah? Not bad, not bad. And I was a sickly nipper and on our usual sad day afternoon swimming races, just turning around the last boy in the sharks are and went off. I saw a fin and the next breath I took, I was in my laund drome.
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Speaker 2: In your loundrome. What did you get a tach, Trev.
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Speaker 7: I sweam that hard it ended up being a dolphin. I quit that day and I don't go back in the water.
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Speaker 2: How eleven eleven something stay with you, don't they? Trev?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely. I tried to go back the next year and I used to swim in the middle of the pack. So for shortcome others will get eaten before me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good move. Good on you, Trev. That's excellent, Trev.
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Speaker 3: We've got a mountain of tech too much saving on the other side of the since we'll do a little bit after.
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what the pelican is in the frame. Jeez, not ONLUCKI line eleven point two degrees outside on the city at the moment, heading for a top of twenty today to two millimeters of rain, which is sort of similar to what we have forecast each and every day right through until well until the early part of next week. So keep that in mind. Tops of twenty one for twenty for Thursday, twenty one for Friday, twenty for Saturday, nineteen for Sunday, and then it's drier on Monday twenty one and Tuesday twenty one and sunny, so pretty stable. We're the pattern at the moment. Tom runs in the five double a breakfast studio thanks to Glader. I'll give them a call now, order a new dual with operator before the end of September and receive two extra handsets. Morning if you're.
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Speaker 12: Ready, Morning will Morning David bit of footing News just quickly trade period rolls on today. Riley Sanders, Bulldogs midfielder twenty one games this season. Would you be happy with him if the Crows could?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it doesn't sound like I think they want to give him money, but I do, like Rennie that they're still trying. Same.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's a good thing they've I think Clayton Oliver it was a polite sort of no, thank you, didn't want to come to Adelaide and I look there's baggage there. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
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Speaker 2: You're so polite. Tom. It's a it's a risk.
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Speaker 12: It's a flight risk, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: You know?
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Speaker 2: And everything becomes with his own HR filing captains.
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Speaker 12: So that doesn't look like it will happen. He'll probably go to GWS Petrarca trying to get to Gold coast. But the other story I wanted to talk to you about. You've got a young daughter, will Pembo. How old your youngest boy?
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Speaker 2: He is eight eight?
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Speaker 12: If you got him a cricket bat and the cricket ball.
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Speaker 2: Uh acts, I've never used a rule ball, but he's got he's in a cricket.
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Speaker 12: Get him into it. Because there's good money in cricket. And there's a story bubbling around this morning regarding Travis Head and Pat Cummins that they're not back offers to play T twenty cricket full time because we're getting these franchises now that have you know, their own teams in not just India, but America, Australia, you know, all around the world. And they could play T twenty cricket full time for ten million a year if they chose to. But they're going to be.
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Speaker 2: That million a year. What would those bikes beyond? I mean cricket you get pretty well remunerated. What would they be on at the moment? Cricke Australia contract could be two plus yeah, and then and then and then they still ten millions. It's a big step up. It's a lot. Is there any chance ready this is sort of the This is the ambition of a cricket loving Indian billionaire who would like to see Travis Head and Pat Cummins taken out of the Best our Best eleven.
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Speaker 12: Maybe, And I think it's probably just where it's going as well. If that global mode, I'm off, but you know, you think it's a global sport.
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Speaker 2: It just dwarfs the.
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Speaker 12: AFL in terms of cash you can make at that top.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they have said no, though I think they said yeah, they'll.
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Speaker 12: I think Cricket Australia will come to the party. I think they know that the end is coming for Steve Smith, Kawaja other players.
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Speaker 2: Goodness, we need to.
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Speaker 12: We can't lose everybody, you know, the faces of it would be dire for so I think they'll.
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Speaker 2: I think they'll get a little bit.
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Speaker 3: The revenue model for that brand of cricket is it? Is it broadcast rights?
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Speaker 2: Owner based?
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Speaker 3: But how do they make their money? Is it broadcast rights? Is it how much of it's gambling?
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Speaker 12: I wonder they make a lot through broadcast rights, but there would be a lot through gambling. I mean, TV deals et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Would be huge because you're getting it's.
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Speaker 3: Two percent of the Indian population watching You've got more than a leven watch cricket the.
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Speaker 2: Strapa Sonny Gaviscar's evening sports program in India was the most listened to radio program in the world and his average audience a night was over one hundred million people. It's not a joke. It's incredible million to night. It's insane. One hundred million. That's more than us, isn't It's called I think the program is called Sunny by Night. He just pipped us. We were there for a while. If you want to get a live read on and you have to yeah, exactly right, good on your What a role is paying in Mumbai?
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Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast twenty three minutes to seven and in hour's time Sean fust is going to join us on the program.
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Speaker 2: Also David Kosh looking forward to talking footy and all things money with Koschi before eight o'clock today. Lots of texts coming through from people who have been savaged by wildlife or in some cases slightly scared by wildlife. But all entry, all entries for the James Blunt tickets this morning.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go. My daughter This is from Andrea and tells me Nor my daughter couldn't understand why a dog was going off in the kitchen at three in the morning.
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Speaker 2: She got up.
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Speaker 3: They found two possums in there, running around and come through the doggie door. It's total mayhem and hilarious trying to get them out. Another one here from Katrina and how it cave. Dave, my best mate, tells his story often of his hatred of pelicans. When he was about three years old, one tried to eat him and his dad had to save him. Robin Clearview thinks that the EMU represents Bob Katter on the National coat of Arms. There you go a lot a thousand flowers bloom and Mark in poarry Hill said that he got pooed on by a pelican at Goolwa when he.
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Speaker 2: Was a kid, and he said, my entire foot disappeared. So many more.
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Speaker 3: Jared says, I clearly remember being chased by the many animals and the old Adelaide petting zoo back in the nineties, the bag of feed clean from my hands.
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Speaker 2: I still have nightmares to this day. Can on your folks keep it coming. Not a little love for the pelican coming through it all this morning. Pelican's been phairy, poor representation for its species in this talk of this bring We'll give away these James Blunt tickets. By seven o'clock yesterday, the state government wrapped up its its handback of knives, machetes, swords and other prescribed weapons. More than three thousand events surrendered to South Australian police, in fact, three thousand and five hundred eight between the first of July and the thirtieth of September, and about thirty eight weapons per day. The Attorney General Kai Mar joins us on five to blave breakfast. Attorney General, good morning to you.
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Speaker 14: Good morning gentlemen.
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Speaker 3: So attorney, thanks for joining us. It's a hell of a lot of weapons in the community. Is there any intelligence as to the reason people had them? Surely they're not all troublemakers whore in Oh, maybe you better get rid of a machete. A lot of these people would That'd be family heirlooms, historical items, antiques.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, no doubt. Not all of them would have been people who wanted to use them to commit offenses. A lot of them would have been I sawed someone had in the family or picked up as a tourist artum somewhere, or a knife that's no longer needed, or even a machete that may have been used for something once but it's no longer needed.
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Speaker 10: So you're right.
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Speaker 14: It's a huge number and it is really pleasing to see South Australian wanting to do the right thing. Almost forty a day have been handed in over the three months arounder period, actually three and a half thousand. The shehetties, knives, swords, we saw, knuckle dusters, nina stars, all sorts of things that are no longer in the community and could no longer be used to commit offenses or fall into the wrong hand.
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Speaker 2: I hate to sound cynical, Attorney General, but isn't it most likely that almost entirely they were handed back by people that had no crop prior criminal convictions and no intent to actually cause any offense. They were probably laura binding people that got scared into returning them because of the threat that these things were now illegal.
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Speaker 14: I'm sure that there were many that that was the case for, but that doesn't mean that just because it's currently or was it three months ago, in the hands of someone who had no intent to do something wrong with it, it doesn't mean that weapon wouldn't have fallen into the hands of someone who did have an intent to do something wrong with it. So not having these sorts of dangerous weapons in the community where just because someone's care and control one day doesn't mean it won't be someone else's the next day, I think, is a very good thing for thousands TRAIA.
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Speaker 3: I guess the thing too, is that the flip side is that police have been doing all of these raids in shopping malls across town over the last couple of weeks, and I mean even Burnside Village has been turning.
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Speaker 15: Up weapons they had so earlier this year we introduced legislation. We now have by far the toughest night laws anywhere in the country. A part of that was declaring swords and machete's bread weapons, but another really important part was giving police more power in declared precincts. So the police are declared eleven shopping centers now declared precinct and the run operations where they can now use that handheld medical tector to scan people to see if they've got knives on them. And I think, if my memory says career correctly, from just over a week ago there were three knights that turned up where they conducted such an operation in burnswith.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly don't want to see the sorts of scenes that have been far too common in Victoria happening here in SA. The Attorney General Kai mar and thank you for joining us this morning.
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Speaker 2: Yes, eighteen minutes to seven, Russell and Lockley's is on the line with an animal encounter and a chance to win James Blunt tickets money to Russell morning chat.
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Speaker 16: I'll tell you what this one was. I was on the forty trip down the Fort Elliott in the mornings and would be worse the words obviously grabbed the roll and I'm walking down towards the bury at that time my master whatever it was, and I had this roll in my hand and the seagull came and grabbed it out my hand and about one hundred.
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Speaker 17: Proceeders to attacked me.
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Speaker 2: They hadn't him passed my vision the first mate.
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Speaker 3: No, they're agro Riichy good on your USh. Jim and Golden Grave. Jim and Russell could form a support group, or rather Jim's Jim and Goldngrove's wife could join Russell in the support group because Jim Wright's Morning Boys. My wife was attacked by about twenty seagulls when she bought a hot dog at Seaword on the Gold Coast. They snatched the whole thing out of her hands. It was like something from an alf Ad Hitchcock film. Are you very cocky, don't they?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? You don't want to go to these areas where they're two used to people.
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Speaker 9: You know.
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Speaker 2: There's a bloke in a white yeat.
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Speaker 3: He sits every day in the car park at Melt not Melt Pearl, on the bend at the first ramp, the northern ramp at al Dinger.
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Speaker 2: He sits there with hot chips and his car.
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Speaker 3: The birds they know him. He's completely covered in seagulls. He just sits there hand feeding seagulls out of his car.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 2: I think I've told the story before on air that I remember vividly as a kid going to the Largs Bay Kiosk. We'd go to the beach there all the time, and there used to be a guy that would walk around and the seagulls would land on him and they'd all be standing on it because he just he'd feed them every day and we just they'd stand on his head and they'd be on his arms and so forth. It was just sort of a regular fixture down that way. Keating coming in because we've got those James Bunt tickets to give away before seven o'clock this morning, eight double two three double O double or Texas on zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five Wildlife Encounters inspired by that remarkable story of survival that he surfer off Ki at the Estri's Bay who was bitten not once but twice by what they think as a bronze whaler and then managed to drive himself to hospital under an emergency surgery in sounds like he's gonna be okay. Just a remarkable story, and so we're taking calls on that this morning. Eight double two three double O double O the number. Yesterday we spoke about the appalling timing of the Free Palestine protest to coincide with a two year anniversary of the seventh of October massacre in Israel, something that the Prime Minister had warned those organizing the protests not to go ahead with. Indeed, Jacindra Allen and Victoria had said, don't do this. He'd warned people in Victoria those protests did go ahead. Jack Hahn was covering the Free Palestine rally that took place in Sydney yesterday and joins us now on five double a breakfast, Jack, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 18: Good money's here jents.
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Speaker 3: So Jack, which one were you at? Because was there one at the Opera house? Has that happened yet?
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Speaker 2: Or you're the one in.
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Speaker 3: Bankstown and Western Sydney where the chap on them came charging in on his white steed.
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Speaker 18: Yes, but on So that's the one that happened last night. So there was a massive pro Palestinian rally that was held in Western Sydney yesterday, and of course that is two years to the day since the October seven terror attacked. There were hundreds of people in the park. They were fired up, they were passionate, so they were posters and placards, a period of messages and cerrently in the firing line with US President Donald Trump. As your listeners would know, and you would know that obviously President Trump has put together what he's calling a peace plan or gaza for the situation that's playing out of the Middle East. And these people in Sydney's western suburbs are not happy with Donald Trump's proposal. And they've also and I'm using the words that they have used, they have described what happened two years ago as the terrorists as martyrs. So some what people were describing as shocking scenes playing out of Western Sydney last night and now this morning, we've got that while we're looking forward to the Opera House. So you're correct, we do have a major pro Palestinian protest looming at the Opera House this weekend. We could expect to see upwards of one hundred thousand people there because they want to have a massive protest at the Opera House, on the steps of the Opera House. And this is not going to be a major court battle because look, I can tell you this in Sydney, the Sydney Opera House obviously is a landmark of Sydney of Australia. One would argue the world. You can go there, you can fly and you can take a picture on your phone. That's great, but pretty much that's all you can do. If you want to set up a camera, let alone have any type of event there, you need to do months and months and months of approvals and paperwork. And this is where the courts are now coming into it because the Palestine Action Group, these protesters have said, look, we're going to do this protest here we want to, and the cops have said, look, hold your horses because we need to have crowd control, we need to have extra cops. We just don't think it's going to be.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's no way you get one hundred thousand people in there like that.
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Speaker 3: Fore court, I mean, crowded house might have been all right, but there weren't a hundred thousand people at that concert, and they weren't all fired up running around shouting, charming, pushing, shoving, waving placards. It wasn't a heated environment. It was an outdoor concert like it's I think that the Men's government from what I've seen, I mean, everyone's got the right to protest, although calling terrorists martyrs might be pushing the boundaries of freedom of speech order thought. But setting that aside, there's a logistics and security argument against his protest happening, which is what Men's and the police are trying to say.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, and that's spot on. So they are pointing to crowded house in the late nineties as a reason why this can go ahead. So look, it's actually going to be up to the Attorney General's right around the country, even in South Australia. Your Attorney General is going to have a chance to write a letter over to the court today with what they reckon the best course of action is. That's going to happen right around the country. All the ags are going to send in their informations, the two judges are going to make up their mind. You can never predict it, perp harder than predicting the Melbourne Cup, predicting what a judge is going to figure out. So that's going to play out today. And will we or once we see this major Propalestinian protest on the steps of the Opera House. It is very hard to tell. But as you can, as you pointed out, the men's government's trying to strike this freedom of speech and keeping all sides of Sydney happy because you've got a lot of Sydney siders that do have family in the Middle East on both sides of the conflict. So it's a tough situation for a lot of people here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely great, announcewers Jack Jack Hn there for the Today Show covering the first of the Palestinian rallies pro Palestinian rallies in Sydney this week.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a break police and where they're coming up right after traffic David.
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Speaker 1: Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, take to serve.
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Speaker 2: As I said to the weather bureau, Chris Kent is on deck this morning, Chris, what's Wednesday got in store for us?
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Speaker 19: Good morning guys here. We've got a maximum temperature of twenty degrees on the forecast for today. It's a little bit of cloud around this morning, but should see that sticking up maybe a little bit during the afternoon, with the possibility of a shower or two about with a cold front that's slowly moving across the by this morning. Temperature wise, yeah, expecting sort of pretty sort of consistent temperatures over the next couple of days and into the weekend. Twenty degrees really sort of around that that ballpark for you, and those showers are likely to sort of yeah, continue sort of over the next couple of days as well, so not a lot of change in the weather for the rest of the week and then sort of yeah, into the weekend. Across Adelaide, actually it's all looking pretty similar from day to day.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Chris Chris Kent of Meteorology Light Week at the Weather Bureau. Alright, lit's have to report. Yeah, it's excellent. Let's say the same pole. Sergeant Peter Williams joins us. Peter, what happened in Rundle Mall overnight?
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Speaker 20: Yes, good morning guys. If you thought your morning was off to a rough start, Spira thought for a man who's now waking up in a cell and not the crime with room service police accorded to Rundle Mall around about quarter past three this morning after security spotted a man doing a bit of after hours shopping, and by shopping, I mean breaking into a retail complex like it was his own personal treasure hunt. The thirty five year old gentlemen from Glenside apparently thought the best way to beat the crowds was to sneak in before sunrise, which is quite a bold move, but unfortunately he got caught on CCTV, which doesn't sleep. When patrols arrived, they found him with a laptop and two keyfobs, so not exactly the Hall of the Century. Officers reviewed the footage and found that he had helped himself to several stalls within, and the laptop as any sugsession came from one of them. So not only did he break in, but he went on a bit of a mini mall tour. He's now facing a shopping list of charges, including two criminal trespass, four counts of being unlawfully on pres missus an unlawful possession. His bail was denied and he's now set himself up for a date later today with a magistrate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, naughty bloke, Pete. Also, a guy's been caught driving erratically in Morpha Vale.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, this lake seems to mistake the streets for a racetrack and a bit of a law as a suggestion, So just before two point thirty this morning, patrol spotted a silver Subaru station Wagon doing his best impression of a dodging car, slamming on brakes and driving erratically, very nearly colliding with a police vehicle. Most people would take that as a bit of a sign to slow down and maybe rethink their choices, but not this guy. He sped off and wisely the police didn't pursue for safety reasons. A short time later, police officers locted that vehicle on Opal Avenue, with a man casually locking it up. When police tried to have a chat, he bolted and was caught not far away. It turns out that running from police is a lot harder when you've got some cannabis and a lockknife bouncing around in your pocket. Just when you think it couldn't get worse, he refused the roadside blood or Sorry roadside alcohol test, and checks revealed he was already disqualified from driving, So to recap that his night included a erratic driving, nearly hitting the police car, fleeing from the scene, carrying drugs and a weapon, refusing at our coohol test, and driving loss to squalified. Soone's got a Bengo card going there. Probably kicked it all off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that he refused to test as though he was. You know, this is the kind of person that didn't want to add to his rap sheet.
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Speaker 7: Yeah he was.
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Speaker 20: He was starting to run out of space on the police officer's notebook, I think. But he's been reported for a whole raft of offenses and we'll go to court at a later date. His license has gone for twelve months and his vehicle has been in powdered for twenty eight days, and I'm sure his dignity has been lost somewhere on Connington Crescent.
00:34:40
Speaker 2: Well, as it turns out, sounds like he doesn't worry about his licensees being the same fight, but the only thing he wasn't doing was eating his succulent Chinese meal.
00:34:48
Speaker 20: Well, we can't confirm that.
00:34:51
Speaker 2: What is the charge? Just lastly, Peter, and there's a neighborhood watch meeting.
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Speaker 20: That's correct. Last night I popped down to the Lockily his neighborhood watch group down at the Lockley Sporting Club and bounced into an old colleague of yours, Dave from the old McMahon's Fruit and vEDS days Kent and believes the boss was Stephen back at the time. Yeah, they were there and they provided me some valuable intelligence about you and your history.
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Speaker 7: As we go.
00:35:21
Speaker 20: Talking about sucking on Chinese meals. I think we need to have a chat.
00:35:24
Speaker 2: How is how is operation house Boat going?
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Speaker 18: That was?
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Speaker 3: That wasn't the houseboat crew, that was the market crew. But you know, as we used to say on Good Street, what happens at the market stays in the market.
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Speaker 2: Pete.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, well a little bit slipped out at the Lockley's last night.
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Speaker 3: That was a great job, a great bunch of people to work with. Always good to have you on. Pete, Sergeant Pete Williams there from.
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Speaker 2: Zapol Alan and Plipton's called in with an animal encounter morning, Allen, good things, Allen, that's good.
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Speaker 11: Barley with the grand kids five six years ago. Anyway, we went to the monkey park and I thought you're beauty, and our driver said, I I think I got mixed up what he said that get buying. You can buying bananas there anyway. So I brought the bananas and when the monkeys see them, they go naps. So I tried, I bought them and tried to put it in my wife's backpack. Two monkeys just come out and jumped on her shoulder, and the green and the words going a green. Kids are crying and mass They hid the monkeys on the back of all sort of half laugh and half gone. Are you kidding?
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Speaker 2: They yeah, they're pretty a gray trained. They know what The problem with monkeys though some of those places, is the way when they steal glasses and things, the way they get it back from them is to give them food. So the monkeys have turned into a business model. They go if we pinch stuff from people, yeah, they'll bribe it back. And some of the scenes are remarkable. Alan, you're in the running to win the James Blunt tickets. WI announce that very shortly bit of a parable for the criminal justice system. Really, isn't it?
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Speaker 3: Mostly you give a monkey a slap on the wrist and it keeps coming back for more. See this is just it racking monkeys, rack and pack him and stacking on the causes of monkeys.
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Speaker 2: This is we continue to get to new and unique areas where AI is. We're posing problems frankly because it's increasingly been relied upon for everyone to answer all sorts of queries, and now people are using it and it's generating misinformation with regard to things like missing persons stories like that of little Gus Lamont. Sarah Whalen is a professor of social work at CQU and a missing person's experts. Sarah, good morning to you.
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Speaker 21: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: What are the threats of this, Professor Whalen, because we've seen a lot. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the case here in Adelaide, but this poor little four year old boy disappeared Saturday week ago out Bush and a town called Janta hasn't been seen since. Place have wound back the recovery effort or the search effort. He's missing in the presumption is he's no longer alive, but social media is just pumping out all sorts of nonsense about what's happened to him.
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Speaker 21: Completely. You know, I've been working and missing for about twenty years now, and so over those years, so many times families have had to contend with different forms of technology that kind of disrupt the ways in which their stories are told. And so AI is just a new one added to the least, because what's happened is and you know, Guss's case is really prominent all across Australia. So we're very much seeing that I'm in Sydney, lots of media here as well to keep people updated on the case. Is that, as you'd know, the police have been releasing information every few days, keeping people updated. In those early days when the image wasn't released and people on social media were almost demanding that they wanted to see a picture of Gus. Is that what's happened, particularly with meta AI that's available on those social media platforms, is that it's not just pruning the information that has been offered by the police to update the investigation and the family statements, but it's also pruning all of the conspiracy theory or people comment and then bringing them together and collectively offering updates to the story that simply aren't true.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit like after football matches now that you get meta AI coverage, after like an Adelaide game where there is a contentious umpiring decision and the AI version of the game will say huge public outcry over performance of umpire and some calls for sacking of coach, And now in their criminal space, you're seeing it with people going and I'm not going to repeat what they are, but people making comments on Facebook that end up becoming the basis for what's purported to be a news pricie, which.
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Speaker 21: It is not ye exactly, And I think it's really God, isn't it. When people are consuming that information, there's not a warning that says, hey, this is not from a credible source. It's just a summary or an update, So of course people are going to think that this is an updated piece of information rather than thinking the technology is just taking information from everywhere and providing the summary for people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a scary development. Sarah wil And, Professor of Social Work at CQU Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 13: David and Will ten years on breakfast on five double A congratulations and I said it wouldn't last.
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Speaker 2: Well as you've done well.
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Speaker 13: It's the thinking version's breakfast session. May there be many more of them?
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Speaker 2: Good on your fellows.
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Speaker 13: David Pennberthe and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: I said it wouldn't last. He's been withholding things from me.
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Speaker 24: Dad.
00:41:03
Speaker 2: That was a very lovely message. Of course. I was celebrating ten years come this Friday of doing the show. Ten years this Friday? World. Has it really been ten years? Has anything of significance happened in the world in that time?
00:41:17
Speaker 3: You know, it's depressing doing this job. It's a bit like Oscar Wilde's The Portrait of Dorian Gray right. Because we played a bit of audio the other day from something somehow we'd both forgotten about We interviewed John Cleese back in the day and we're talking to him about Monty Python lines and how you remember them, and you know, I said, I'm forty seven, and having grown up with Monty Python, we've now got all these terms like, you know, for people's front of Judea, or he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy, or you know, on and on, I thought, I'm forty seven. I'm not forty seven. I'm fifty seven next year.
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Speaker 2: How old were you when we started the program in twenty fifteen, make me do sums. I was ten years younger than I am now. So I was forty six, forty six, forty six. How were you thirty one, thirty one, thirty one, thirty two, thirty two. Yeah, I know I was young. I was genuinely young. Your next big birthday mates got a five in front of it. How did that? The march of time? Yeah, it is relentless. Would you say life is nasty, brutish and short? Eleven after seven with that reflection to start your day, A good morning to you. The sun is up. It actually looks MAGNI yeah, exactly right. Every second you're ticking closer to the end. That's just how we're choosing to remember our ten years it is it would be hearing more. That just took us by a little bit of surprise, that message covering out of seven o'clock from the GG. That was very lovely. Now let's turn our attention to some of the news of the day. Yesterday the Attorney General Kaim mar and now that the embattled Edge Early Learning Center at Plympton would be suspended for a further ninety days by the Education Standards Board following what had been a two week closure. Ben Grimola is the CEO of the Education Standards Board and joins us on five double a Breakfast. Ben, why the extension of the closure.
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Speaker 25: Thanks David, And will the Education Standboard extended the suspension because we still have concerns surrounding practices within Edge Early Learning at Plimpton, particularly around inadequate supervision, which was part of the concerns that led to the original closure.
00:43:41
Speaker 2: So, Ben, is it the case that more.
00:43:45
Speaker 3: Questionable practices have come to light, or is it more that you guys haven't been reassured that they've got the systems in place to stop anything bad from happening again, or maybe both.
00:43:56
Speaker 25: Yeah, look, that's right, David. For us, it's probably more that we haven't got to our satisfaction demonstration that there's a long term, sustained process change within that service yet EDGE are working towards that and they've been working closely with the Education Standard Sport.
00:44:15
Speaker 2: Ben, Is that about putting in place policies or does it go also to hiring more people.
00:44:21
Speaker 25: It goes to a lot of avenues, including obviously a number of staff, making sure you've got proper processes and procedures in place, but also making sure that you know people are trained properly. And this isn't just a matter for EDGE. All childcare services need to make sure they have proper processes and procedures in place, particularly in regards to supervision because as we know, you'll leave a child for a minute and a lot can happen.
00:44:48
Speaker 3: So, Ben, just to clarify, because there's a number of EDGE Childhood centers around town. Is it just the Plinton one that's had the extension six months?
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Speaker 25: Yeah, look it's ninety days, and yeah it's only the one at Clinton. We have an enforceable undertaking that is across the rest of the services, and an enforceable undertaking is agreement between the Education Standards Board and the provider on how I guess, on some things that they need to work on to make sure their practices are improved.
00:45:21
Speaker 2: So, Ben, what happens in the event that the ninety days passes now and they don't fully satisfy you.
00:45:27
Speaker 25: Well, look, there's a couple of things that can happen. One, we can extend the suspension if there's a few things that they still need to rectify. However, if we consider there's continued risk to children's safety, then we can also close the service permanently.
00:45:43
Speaker 3: M Yeah, well there's a lot to think through, Ben Gramola, the CEO of the Education Standards Bill, Well, what does it mean for parents for that? We're joined now by Eliza Sekiris, who is the mum of children at the Edge in Plinton. Eliza, and thank you so much much for joining us. This must be a bit of a logistical nightmare for you.
00:46:04
Speaker 26: Yeah, good morning guys. We I guess are really lucky we've spoken before and we've had a really great experience at Edge. We unfortunately did have to move on due to it being a logistical nightmare. But you know, going off of the previous comments. I've been there. It's really is a double edged sword because we understand that the center needs to, you know, get all of it stuck in line and do all the right things and show that there is legitimate change with processes to back it. But at the same time, how can the center higher or recruit when you know who's going to want to come and work for a center that's just been shut down for ninety days. Yeah, so it's really tricky, and I just I really feel for them there.
00:46:53
Speaker 3: Did you have any concerns as a mum about the safety of your kids? Were there any issues with them or you said you had a good experience there, you were happy with it.
00:47:03
Speaker 26: Yeah, we had been there for four years, so my kids both started when they were five and six months and fast it was a dream. Like I was the typical anxious mum who didn't want to leave her kids in care, but within the space of like the first week of dropping them off, I was so at ease. And you know, every single team member that's there from the beginning of our journey to the end, has been so incredibly supportive, even you know, down to we had a wonderful chef there named Milo. He was most incredible influenced and for us, it's no longer about the families, because you know, as families were resilient, our kids, the resilient EDGE have done a really great job setting the kids up in that way. It's more so the educators and the staff there who have been absolutely working their arms off trying to get everything in order hoping to open. But again they've had staff that have had to leave because logistically for them it's a nightmare too because they need to work. And so yeah, I just don't know how with an additional closure they will ever get the opportunity to a higher more staff and b show that there is you know, meaningful change.
00:48:12
Speaker 2: How tricky is Eliza going having to move midyear from one a childcare center to another.
00:48:17
Speaker 26: We were really lucky. Actually the center that we opted to move to is still very far out of our way commute wise, but all of the kids' friends from EDGE, We're not all exageration, but a lot of the kids went to another center local to them, and so we followed, so very very gratefully. The center that we went to made it a breeze for us. You know, obviously people are pretty understanding with everything that's going on. So yeah, for us fakefully the logistical nightmare is over. My heart just goes out to we had some amazing childcare workers who now are suffering with that nightmare rather as the family.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: Well, what I mess Eliza's securius there mum with children at edge or formally at Edge in Plimpton. This is well, I don't understand this company, Like if they've got parents like Eliza going we actually didn't mind the center of it all, why don't they get on the front foot and actually say something And.
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Speaker 2: It's peculiar and it is it is interesting, but I don't know enough about how the business is structured. It works that so they've got more. Why was one particularly tardy? Well?
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Speaker 3: I think the thing is though, if every Eliza, because this is based on the tires as reporting, there's been other parents going this is what happened to my kid.
00:49:30
Speaker 2: It it was a disgrace. And I suppose that the time of day your kids there, what days of the week, might be a totally different experience.
00:49:36
Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Wild Goodings five double a Breakfast twenty two minutes after seven.
00:49:41
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00:49:57
Speaker 3: Great calls, but we're going to give it to Sue with her excellent tale of the.
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Speaker 2: Birthday party. Yes, release the bats. Sue one in the bailing. I think the bat.
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Speaker 3: Flying around in her house, her cat's going, man, the budgy, you name it. She was wearing the fluffy slippers, chasing the chasing the bat.
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Speaker 2: The Back to Bedlam Australian tour by James Blunt performing here in Adelaid Tuesday, the twenty eighth of October for one incredible night. Tickets and all the details you need at destroy all Lines dot com. Otherwise you can stay listen because we've been giving away the tickets all week. If you have been listening, you know you'll know well of the saga of Optus and the triple zero outage or the heads of all the major telcos will hauled to Canberra yesterday to answer questions about how this can be prevented from ever happening again. Melissa Mackintosh is the Shadow Minister for Communications and joins us on five Double A Breakfast. Shadow Minister, good morning to you. Good morning, so Shadow minister.
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Speaker 3: What role is there for government? What type of what type of oversight should government provide when it comes to triple O? Because I don't think any of this would want to see Optus necessarily let off the hook.
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Speaker 6: You're right and you know it from your area. It's the events of a few weeks ago tragically for people passed away, so it can't happen again. And the government does have a role, so it isn't just on the telecommunications providers like Optis. It's a very regulated industry and the government can put all sorts of things in place to oversee it. And one of the recommendations when Optics had that outage in twenty twenty three was to have a custodium, which is like a law enforcer within government to make sure things are going right. But the government sat on this recommendation for a year and a half and now this has happened with Optus and people have died and where he this week trying to rush legislation through, so it's got the powers it needs to to try and fix this issue. So I'm pretty cranky.
00:52:04
Speaker 4: So scan on the apartment.
00:52:05
Speaker 3: What you're saying, is it fair to surmise that scanning number one should have necessitated a much more dramatic response from the Commonwealth and rather what's happened is that it's taken scannal number two involving triple A for them to do what they'd said they were going to do in the first place.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're pretty much spot on there. There were eighteen recommendations after the first one saying this is how you can fix it, and we only found out through question time yesterday probing the Minister which recommendations they've actioned. And we also discovered yesterday that there's been this overseer in her departments is March. Well, if there've been this is March, why weren't they doing their job? So now we've got this legislation to go through and I don't think it's strong enough. I will keep putting the pressure on the minister. She went overseas during the crisis, I don't think that's appropriate. Left her post. She came back and three weeks later she dragged the CEOs to Parliament for a bit of a political stunt. So we want to be the politics is the politics. We need to get this right for Australians when somebody's in need. Every single one of your listeners, when they have their greatest time of needs to be able to pick up the phone and call Triple zero and actually get through.
00:53:23
Speaker 3: Wasn't the most recent policy triumphs being charged with my aged care. Whether it's a court of a million Australians waiting to get onto a package.
00:53:31
Speaker 6: That's correct, over a hundred when we were in Parliament the other week, one hundred and eight thousand Australians just waiting still and it took a pressure again for the government to release those packages. So there's nothing more important for a government and even the opposition than looking after your citizens and protecting them and making sure they're safe and right now this minister seems to be failing at every one of her jobs she's had that.
00:54:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Shadow Minister for Communications, Melissa McIntosh.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us this morning. So the official timeline is Richard been did a composed a report featuring the eighteen recommendations. Melissa Macintosh just spoke about into the November twenty twenty three optus outage. They came out in April twenty twenty four and at the time the government said, we accept all of those those recommendations, one of which was for a custodian to oversee all this. That person's been working but without any legislative power. So a year and a half ago. Yeah, and now the legislation has been tabled in parliament. How can they be working without any legislative power? They sort of like their administrative volunteer. Well, I think they can say again, yeah, else they can give you some They can you know, make some really angry phone calls. You better not be not answering emergency cause you know what, you know, Yeah, I'll be really really disappointed, dirtier than you know what. Fucker. Yes, five double A news is coming up, Short, fishtal Geordane. Shortly we'll go around the courts with Short and David Koch on the program Tea before I curse David.
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Speaker 13: David Penberthe and Will Goodings five Double A Breakfast, Well ten years for.
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Speaker 2: A long time in breakfast radio. But could you imagine playing that bit of audio to us ten years ago when Matt Abraham was our small enemy amazing with an occasionally fractious relationship back then. Yeah, but back and forth between us and the national broadcast. But look, time heals all things. That was magnificent, Matt. Thank you very much, very generous, lovely words.
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Speaker 13: Mat.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty three minutes to wait, and someone who's been with us on the journey the entire time is Sean fuster. Let's go around the courts.
00:56:22
Speaker 1: It's time to go around the courts with Sean Fusta on five Double A Breakfast.
00:56:28
Speaker 2: Pretty much the whole time.
00:56:29
Speaker 12: Sean, good morning too, Yes, good morning, Happy tenth anniversary to me almost and you guys as well.
00:56:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, wous is Friday.
00:56:35
Speaker 3: This was one of the very first segments that Will and I locked in.
00:56:38
Speaker 12: I still remember the text that I got from you saying, hey, Will, and I would like to have you on radio.
00:56:42
Speaker 2: Would you come in?
00:56:43
Speaker 12: And at that point I was so worried about doing things like that. I'm like, all right, I'll come in once. And I haven't had a full Wednesday's morning sleep.
00:56:51
Speaker 3: See because I can remember it too, because you came on.
00:56:55
Speaker 2: And after you came on, Will said me, how good's that Blake?
00:56:57
Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, work with him for years, he can bloody excellent.
00:56:59
Speaker 2: And then like here you are.
00:57:01
Speaker 12: Now, I'm glad to be here. And look, seriously, guys, congratulations, it's brilliant that you've been on this long. I'm very grateful to have been along for the ride. And I know a lot of the people that myself and even Daniel have helped out through Just Lawful and Just Lawful wouldn't exist without this show, and you guys sort of being the godparents that got that through. So all the victims and survivors of crime that have worked with us over the years are really grateful for this show on this platform.
00:57:22
Speaker 2: Well, you've got a story this morning, and that's very kind of you, very generous of you to say, Sean, you've got a story this morning that is a sort of conclusion to a story that started at ten to eleven years ago. Well, look, I.
00:57:36
Speaker 12: Wish it was a conclusion, but it really isn't, because it's really just finally getting past a goalpost that in all rights, should have been dealt with a very long time ago. The twenty fourteen crash at the bottom of the Southeast Freeway that killed Tom Speace and Jackie Byrne, that left another person injured, that left truck driver without a leg. You'd think that would be over by now. You think that would be dealt with. But over the course of this show and also the Advertiser's coverage, we've talked about the fact that the coroner did an emergency coronial inquest and recommended that the speed be limited on the downtrack for all trucks. We talked about the fact that the charges were eventually dropped against the driver because it turned out the brakes of the truck were not working and no force in the universe could stop that truck once it starts nothing he could do. We talked about the fact that clean Away, the company involved, the charges there were dropped to the criminal charges for the same reason. Then we talked about the fact that the maintenance company came out and made allegations in the district court that they warned clean Away twenty five days before the crash that the brakes were maggeted and that they should have been doing something about it. Then what we've been waiting on all this time since is the regulatory offenses. Colmcare the Commonwealth Regulator has been pursuing clean Away, saying you failed to train the driver. The driver could have had a buddy in the car with the truck sorry with him. They could have been taught to if the brakes aren't working, heads straight for the arrest of bed. There's so many other things you could have done in his training. He gave evidence and said, you know, I had two days training in an automatic and I never went down the freeway. This thing was manual, and I was taking it down the freeway on day one with eight thousand liters of raw sewage in it. That track ended up going one hundred and fifty one k is an hour by the time it hit mister Space and miss burnet.
00:59:26
Speaker 3: Because like put it in the driving a car context. These days, most people don't learn how to drive on a manual. When I was growing up, everyone did it on a manual.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if more than ten percent of people learned on a manual.
00:59:40
Speaker 2: Now I didn't. Yeah, yeah, right here? Did you learn on an automatic? Will? Yeple on a manual?
00:59:46
Speaker 12: I got taught to drive a manual by the photographers at the TiSER.
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But the thing is, I mean a car is lethal enough, let alone a truck.
00:59:53
Speaker 12: Well, it's an eight thousand liters sewerage bob and one hundred and fifty one kilometers an hour.
00:59:57
Speaker 2: It's a missile. So there's just to go back to who responsible with this component? So they've been pursued by the regulatory bodies? Yep, that's right. So who's dragged the change? Because so often when we talk to you about cases with this long lead time, we're saying, oh, there's a backlog in the court. So this is not a backlog in the court. Is this just how long has taken to put together the case.
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Speaker 12: That's a really interesting question that I don't know whether I can answer, but I can certainly tease out the facts with you. Because you had the magistrates court find them guilty m clean Away. This is of eight charges. They challenged that on appeal. The Appeals Court came back and said, we'll knock down six of the verdicts, but two of them you.
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Speaker 2: Have to wear.
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Speaker 12: You are guilty of these two. Clean Away then appealed that appeal saying it was incorrect. That was in November of twenty twenty two. Last week we got the appeal judgment last week. So three justices of the Supreme Court have had this matter before them for consideration since November of twenty twenty two, and it's only just this month our judgment has finally come back saying no, the original appeal judgment was correct. You have to wear those two. You're now facing a maximum three million dollar fine. But we've had all that time in between.
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Speaker 3: Wow, how harrowing and draining emotionally for the families of the two people who lost their lives. Though, to witness this sort of protracted, decades long orgy of finger pointing unfolding before the courts, where it almost sounds like tactically every single person involved in this has been trying to say, well, look at what the other guys are doing.
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Speaker 12: There's been a lot of that. There's been an absolute lot of that. And look, the civil proceedings for wrongful death and things like that have been stymied by this at various times. There's talk that some of the coronial processes have had to wait. There may even be death and injury certificates that still haven't been issued all these years later as a result of the fact that everyone further down the chain has to wait until this part is dealt with. This is supposed to be the fast part. And again we have a jump in.
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Speaker 3: Can't that affect because you know, things are wills in that show that's right? Can't that affect things like releasing money from the states?
01:02:11
Speaker 2: And so absolutely?
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Speaker 3: Can you know, I'm not suggesting at all this is some craven money making exercise for anyone. But if you've still had a family to run and you've lost your partner's.
01:02:20
Speaker 12: All of that's there as well. So the trauma that continues on from that moment has no chance of I mean, nobody truly gets closure anyway, but there's no ending to this segment of it. Even now it's not over. You were saying at the top of the segment, you know we finally reached the conclusion. Well we haven't. It's just that clean aways now run out of appeals. So now it goes back to the magistrate's court for sentencing submissions, and then a magistrate needs to go away and come back with a sentence. But here's the thing. The magistrate that hurt it has now retired, which means whoever is seized of it next has to be brought up to speed. And that's no fault of that magistrate. They're going to need that background.
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Speaker 2: It's not the end, it's the beginning of the.
01:03:01
Speaker 12: Getting at the end. It means that the sentencing submissions are going to be longer and more arduous they normally would be, because you're busy in forming a brand new person.
01:03:09
Speaker 2: You mentioned there was two charges that they have not been able to two wraps they've not been able to get away from. So one has to do with the training of the driver.
01:03:17
Speaker 12: Both of them are well, they're both different versions of that. In terms of regulatory style. You didn't meet this section of the Act. You didn't meet that section of the Act. But the ballpark effect of it is you didn't train this person. There was so much else you could have done, and you still failed to train them adequately. Even if regardless of whether the braake's failed or not, there are things that you could have taught this man that might have lessened the impact.
01:03:40
Speaker 3: It's a huge case and it's one that has affected a lot of things. I mean even down to things up the speed limit on the south the Eastern Freeway.
01:03:48
Speaker 12: We could deal with that straightaway, you know, the coroner was able to deal with that. There was this rush of emergency and in a good way rush of emergency effort to fix things at the time, and now here at the tail end, it's just dragging on.
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Speaker 21: M hm.
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Speaker 2: Hey Shawan, thank you for that.
01:04:02
Speaker 3: And there's always actually like a really good example of the type of work that you've done with us for the last ten years. We know from the feedback we get from our listeners people when we see them, you know, bumping on at the shops or whatever, and they're you know, I love the show and sary people, so I really love Sean second. So it means a lot to a lot of people. Thank you very and then we look forward to it continuing for another decade.
01:04:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, although not next week as we just learned it. No, not next week.
01:04:28
Speaker 12: Next week, I'm off doing fun things for a change. But yeah, thank you boys, thank you everybody out there. And yeah, absolutely I'll see in a fortnight.
01:04:34
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
01:04:35
Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast David Coosh on five double a breakfast.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: Eleven minutes to way the chairman of the Port Adelaide Football Club. Compare the market economic Director David Coosh jawins Us on five double a breakfast boarding your Coshi.
01:05:00
Speaker 3: Coos So, Goshi, what's it like in the middle of being a football club chairman during trade week?
01:05:06
Speaker 2: You feel like every day's got to start with a head count to make sure everyone's still there.
01:05:11
Speaker 4: Well, this year is a bit different for us because we're really quite in this year in trade Week and also in the draft this year, and that's been planned for a couple of years. We were going to be out in twenty twenty five, largely because we've got to build some stockpile of cash because we've got to sign some pretty important people as the next year or two, and we've got quite a few father sons and n Gas coming in next year and the year after, so we've got to build up points. So this year it's not that exciting, but sort of you see so far with the with the trades that we had brought in, we brought in some depth in key positions and also some experience because over the last two years we brought in nine eighteen year olds. So we're a pretty young side at the moment with some really good talent and we'll keep developing that.
01:06:15
Speaker 2: The one thing that has been loud is the noise surrounding Zach Butters. And there's a couple of schools of thought and how you approach these sorts of things. You either back yourself in and say we can re sign him and we're going to give ourselves the best chance of doing that, or you get ahead of it and start negotiating a trade when you've got maximum leverage, that is, he's got another year under contract. What's the club's approach being to dealing with Zach Butters and plotting that out on the whiteboard at Alberton.
01:06:43
Speaker 4: Well, the approach with Zach, and Zach's approach to us is he's got another year to go in his contract, and Zach is a competitive beast. He loves playing Port Adelaide and also with the team. And look, obviously he's one of the best midfielders, if not the best midfielder in our our view, still scores reasonable Brown low vote, even though he's a bit of a yappy player, which I don't like. So that's a that's a that's a testament to how good he is. And look, he's he's a key player for us going forward and we've just got to show success and treat him well. And he's good, but every player is different, they have different circumstances and we're really confident that Zach will be a long term, a long term member of the club, and we've already sort of started talking about future deals. But he's highly attractive to other clubs and they don't mind talking about it.
01:07:55
Speaker 2: So this, Is there any truth to the reports that Zach Barter is at a coach the club and he sought some advice around potentially being traded this off season.
01:08:07
Speaker 4: No, and Judg mccripsle was pretty clear about that the other day, and is his press conference during trade week that Zach's never approached us about He's settled in for next year. Here and mixed George yards are living together and they're looking forward to a great preseason.
01:08:29
Speaker 2: Cost you what left field question I wanted to ask you about the state of I'm not sure if it's a reflection of the global economy or the local economy of what's happening in the United States, but the gold price over the last twelve months. Gold historically doesn't fluctuate a whole lot. People call it a store of value or a defensive asset, something you invest in if you're maybe a little bit concerned about what the stock market's going to do or other bits and pieces, because it is gold. At the end of the day, you've got something physical there that it has utility, a store of value, store of value. So when it goes up somewhat dramatically for gold purpose, there's almost fifty percent over the last twelve months. Some people's reading of that is there's real nervousness around the state of the global economy. Is that your reading? And are you surprised how much it's increased in twelve months.
01:09:16
Speaker 4: I am surprised how much it's increased in twelve months. But you've got a disruptive president of the United States disrupted two financial markets. Financial markets hate that. He has constantly said that the American dollar is overvalued, and that's been hurting the US.
01:09:40
Speaker 10: Now.
01:09:40
Speaker 4: A lot of central banks around the world and they build up levels of US dollars as a store of value. It's the global currency, as the global trading currency. When the president of that currency goes well, it's too high and is affecting the economy, central banks start to to look at alternatives, and they've been looking at going back to gold. Central banks over the last twelve months have bought almost four hundred and twenty tons of gold as a way of shoring up their currency and their economy as well. So it's an enormous reflection of the uncertainty of financial markets, and particularly the economic and financial policies of the United States, which had no stability to them at the at all. Each day, you know, there's some change of mind on tariffs or buying into local companies, and the whole lot countries and markets don't like that. Up fifty percent, you say, top four thousand US dollars last night.
01:10:46
Speaker 2: Great for US.
01:10:47
Speaker 4: It's because we're one of the biggest gold miners in the world. It's now our second most valuable export, which you believe, So yeah, it's really healthy for us.
01:10:58
Speaker 2: Hey.
01:10:58
Speaker 3: Course you were talking earlier about the sort of negative impact of social media and more so AI sort of search engines that are used by Facebook and Google and so forth, with things like the case of that poor missing boy gas Can I ask you, wearing your tourism chief hat, do you think that people need to sort of sort the wheep from the chaff a bit better when it comes to making informed decisions about where they can and should holiday for summer. Because we're sort of trying valiantly to talk to the experts here to get an accurate picture of what's happening in South Australia. But you type the word al will bloom in the Internet and it sounds like, you know, the body of our caseline.
01:11:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and it goes berserk. And because people inquire, then the algorithm say, ok, I'm going to flood you with all all this information and as you say, a lot of it is misinformation going through.
01:11:57
Speaker 7: And look, I think the.
01:12:01
Speaker 4: Education process is difficult to get the facts through when there's so much noise around and misinformation. In terms of social media, the vast majority of beaches in South Australia are clear and some of the pristine beaches around Kinger Island aren't being touched. A lot of the concentration is around the suburban beaches, which puts at top of mind and in the eyeballs of a lot more people. But it's just a matter of checking where you want to go and the alga bloom keeps moving. The Premiere I thought did a great job the other day in giving an update on where it is at the moment and take advantage of the vouchers coastal vouchers which have gone gangbusters, just still see and travel around this beautiful state. Because for a lot of the tourism operators from now until March is when they when they make their money to get them through winter, so we've got to really support them and a lot of towns economic world being is based on that as well.
01:13:13
Speaker 3: One hundred David Cosh, the Port Adelaiu Football Club chairman, Compare the Market Economic Director and also the chairman of the Esachos and Commission. Always great to catch up Cosh you we'll talk again soon.
01:13:23
Speaker 4: Thanks you guys.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five Double a Breakfast, Pemba and Will Vicar.
01:13:32
Speaker 20: Congratulations boys, ten years.
01:13:33
Speaker 2: What a medioric rise is.
01:13:36
Speaker 3: Even to the point I just want to give your heads up here, but I actually.
01:13:40
Speaker 2: Nominated you boys for the Istrolling Commercial Radio Awards in the Hall of Fame. Got a response back last week that the award show has been permanently canceled forever. Thanks ten years and obviously you've ruined it for everyone.
01:13:56
Speaker 22: They're surprisingly big athors that he like the two sons from thirty ninety drive.
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Speaker 2: If you think it's true FITZI was lying about the Australian Commercial Radio Awards being no more. He's not there. We didn't realize it was our fault.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they Maybe they canceled them because Kyle Sanelans kept going to them. Remember that year that he won he won a Lifetime Achievement award, didn't he Well.
01:14:25
Speaker 2: He won someone.
01:14:26
Speaker 3: I think there was a bunch of us walked out, is that right, including some people who worked for his radio station. Really, I was talking to a woman whose job it was at that radio station to remove ads from advertisers who did not want to be associated with their show. So I say, hypothetically, Bunning says, we're going to advertise on that network in every single time slot apart from six to nine.
01:14:48
Speaker 2: When they're on Well the Way to make a crust. I'll tell you what they got there to come up toast. Yeah, I was going to say, do you think ACMUS send them thank you letters for you know, making sure that departments will well resource to completely keeps them busy.
01:15:04
Speaker 3: There's probably fifty public servants to be unemployed with that.
01:15:07
Speaker 2: Kylon jackis exactly right eight double two three double double as our Abika textas on zero four zero eight thirty ninety five as well, of course on any topic the Police Home Care text line. We'll get some of your thoughts and feedback in just a moment, but first it is time for breaking it up.
01:15:26
Speaker 3: For there used to be a time when if you enter the latter box and got your bit of alarming mail from the state government, you open the enve realized it was.
01:15:35
Speaker 2: A water bill, you'd breathe a sigh of relief.
01:15:37
Speaker 3: Getting a water billins Outh Australia for a long time was a painless experience will not say anymore. Water bills have surged, and the premiere last year said that they'd be increasing by an average from memory, I think you said of eighty five dollars a year to help pay for infrastructure, for new.
01:15:54
Speaker 2: Housing developments and so on.
01:15:56
Speaker 3: Well, against that backdrop, new data is out confirming the fact that the biggest increase in complaints to the Energy and Water onbardsmen about bills is an electricity. It's not gas, it's water SA water as well, and truly in the frame with a surge in the number of complaints. We've got the obardsman on the line now, Sandy Canale, Sandy, good morning, and thanks so much for your time. The situation with water bills, it's changed in record time. They have become punishingly expensive now for a lot of people, haven't they.
01:16:29
Speaker 2: Good morning.
01:16:29
Speaker 10: Chance.
01:16:30
Speaker 17: Look, the billing aspect of water has certainly generated more complaints over the past twelve months, but we need to put that into context as well. I mean, we handled around nine three hundred complaints last year overall, and water complaints represented around you know, six one hundred and forty three of those, of which about fifty percent related to billing type issues, So it's not necessarily about the quantum.
01:16:58
Speaker 2: Of the bill.
01:16:59
Speaker 17: Yes, it is about the quantum of the bill in terms of the reason for the complaint, but the reason may not be because of an increase or whatnot. It may be that there's been a water leak on the property which is generated a higher than normal bill. That tends to be the dominant reason for complaints, and you know generally it'll be around the usage that they can't actually account for, So that's the type of complaint that we will generate serve.
01:17:30
Speaker 3: Were any of the complaints whether related because we've had a protracted drought, We've been talking all year about how low the rainfall who's been compared to previous autumns and winter. Are there any people who just complained to you because they just couldn't believe the size of their bill.
01:17:47
Speaker 17: Absolutely, and as I said, predominant when we look into it, the bill is actually accurate and it represents what's gone through the meter. But unfortunately for the customer, the problem is probably more related to either increased usage because of the weather or there's a leak on the property, and you know, both of those will generally cause alarm, and when we sort of work our way through those, more often than not the bill is actually accurate and the consumption's actually occurred.
01:18:18
Speaker 3: What about power, what's the what's the what can you glean from the feedback you've got it from people's power bills?
01:18:26
Speaker 17: Yeah, Look, power bills probably are in a different sort of quadrant. They generally you have seen.
01:18:33
Speaker 9: Significant increases over the last few years, and.
01:18:37
Speaker 17: For a number of customers that's now causing quite a bit of pressure in terms of being able to pay those bills when they fall due and payable.
01:18:45
Speaker 20: With many of the.
01:18:47
Speaker 17: Customers, again the consumption is accurate, or they have been moved to what's referred to as a time of use tariff, where energy is paid depending on when you actually use the energy. But there's been no change by the customer in moving their energy use around, and so the bill compounds and gets higher.
01:19:07
Speaker 9: Than what they would have expected.
01:19:09
Speaker 17: You know, people falling off contracts and not perhaps looking around for better offers, and you know, all those things add up to a bill which perhaps they weren't expecting. So a fair bit of our purportall fair bit of the work has actually been in helping customers understand how to navigate their way through the market, how to perhaps obtain a better offer in the market, but also understanding the type of tariff structure that they're actually on so that they can actually modify the way they use energy in the home.
01:19:39
Speaker 3: And just finally, standing in your capacity as energy and water Onwardsman, have you seen a stabilization, an increase, a decrease. What's happened with the number of South Aussies in build stress.
01:19:54
Speaker 17: Look, most of the retailers, and I'm talking predominantly the energy retails, although we say water has a similar sort of program. First of all, they're obligated to offer assistance programs. Sometimes they're referred to as hardship programs, And what that actually means is that if you are struggling to pay your bill, it might be a short term problem, you know, cash flow type issue, something's happened in the home, or whatever it might be. They will put you onto a payment plan which will help you through that short term. For some customers it's more long term. Lots of jobs, you know, lots of family member or whatever that might be. There are programs which assist people over twelve twenty four months, whatever it might actually be. So we've actually seen a significant reduction in the number of customers actually facing disconnection, which I think has been very positive and useful. So most of the providers themselves are assisting customers. Where people fall through the cracks, then that's what we're there for, to help make sure that they get that assistance that they need. And the last thing we want anyone who's been disconnected from a utility.
01:21:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Sandy canally the energy and water on. But it's been thank you for joining us this morning for breaking it out.
01:21:08
Speaker 2: The Shadow Treasurer Sam Telfer is called in on this Sam. Good morning to you.
01:21:12
Speaker 28: Yeah, good morning Jents.
01:21:13
Speaker 2: What did you make of all that? Sam?
01:21:15
Speaker 19: Oh?
01:21:16
Speaker 24: And sadly, I'm probably not surprised.
01:21:18
Speaker 28: I mean we've been talking about this for the last couple of years, boys, because to have such a massive increase into the water price in one big hit and then follow up is really a massive extra burden on people at the moment and the cost of living challenges they're facing and really starting to really hit the back pocket. And when we have a situation like you've pointed out, we've got a dry season and people are using more water, it's only exacerbating the problem. I mean, this is why we've said all the way along it can't be greedy as a government when it comes to water bills because in the end people are going to get to a point where they can't pay it. If we're going to be funding important water infrastructure for how development, do it out of the government general revenue. Do it as an investment in housing into the future. Don't slug the existing customers that are already doing it tough do.
01:22:09
Speaker 2: The state Leberls have?
01:22:10
Speaker 3: Is that a formal policy position that if you were elected, you would revoke the increases that the Melanowskis government put on for new housing developments.
01:22:18
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's the bit that there's been put on over and above the CPI, which we say isn't justified.
01:22:24
Speaker 24: You know, you need to dial it back.
01:22:26
Speaker 25: We've said this.
01:22:27
Speaker 28: Will been strong on this all the way through. Need to dial back that extra and make the extra money that's necessary for water infrastructure to come out of general operations where you can actually, like I said, get that money back over time with the investment in housing. It's not a you know, we shouldn't be using say water as labour always do as a cash core for more and more money into the coffers of the state. We should be doing it in recognition of the amount of infrastructure investment that is currently happening, and not using it as a as a revenue source for government.
01:22:59
Speaker 3: Seem Tel for Shadow treasure, I thank you for calling in the shadow Treasure has comming through a line with a lot of the feedback that we're getting from our listeners like Scott in Modbury. Are good mate, Scott, and also Scott, thank you for the nice text you sent thanking us for our ten years of gibbering away together. We're glad you're enjoyed the show. But it's more importantly says so boys, then we get this straight. My water bill went up to pay for infrastructure for new houses. So not only is my neighborhood getting ruined by three houses being where there used to be one, I'm also paying more for privilege.
01:23:28
Speaker 2: Andrew makes a good point, he says, morning, the problem with my water bill is the charge for sewerage based on property value. This is obscene. Thank you, Andrew. Yeah, you know a lot of people. If you've lived the same house for thirty years and then with the same sewage system. But because of property it's the property exchanges that you have absolutely nothing to do with.
01:23:52
Speaker 3: What's like council rates. I mean, it's based on the value of your home. But the fact that your house might have been worth six hundred grand and overnight the real estate fair has decided that theoretically it's worth one point three even though you're not going.
01:24:05
Speaker 2: To sell it.
01:24:06
Speaker 3: How does the house become more expensive for the council to maintain when it goes from six hundred grand to one point three million? Do you end up with sevens instead?
01:24:15
Speaker 2: Won't? It's not liquid. You can't go, well, my house is worth an extra seven hundred grand, so I guess I'll sell a couple of doors to pay for the increase of my water bill. Yeah, that's right. There's nothing liquid about that asset. It's totally unrealized.
01:24:26
Speaker 3: We found out last week too. If you try to sneak it in in and out the back and put in a new letter box, you w ended up getting paixactly right fine for.
01:24:32
Speaker 2: It when we found out about that. All right, we're going to take a break and we're going to there's a bit going on in Kangaro Island Way and We're going to talk about it with the Mayor, Michael Pingilli in just a moment.
01:24:41
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after right. It looks like a pretty reasonable day outside of the moment chatting with the weather bureau earlier, it's a pretty steady weather pattern. You can pretty much sit your watch by the fact that it's going to be nineteen or twenty or twenty one degrees over the course of the next week, with the next four or five scotty somewhere between. Yeah, scattered shower is a good way of describing it. Dry Monday and Tuesday. But if this is to your liking this weather, you're gonna love the rest of this week. Eight double two three double is the open line number if you'd like to chat about anything that's going on in the news cycle at the moment. Lots of feedback on water bills on the program this morning, indeed coming through on the Police Home Care text line as well a lot of people that entered the competition we ran in the first hour this morning talking about run ins with wildlife and it was inspired by this remarkable story on Kangar Island. We're a man and there's now vision of this it will see throughout the day. Who was surfing? It was happened upon by In fact, we've got on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. Now he's surfing and what you will see in this video is a shark pursuing a seal. He unfortunately gets caught between them and when the shark loses side of the seal, obviously court eyes on him. He was bitten twice and drove himself the hospital. It is a remarking story. Michael Bengilli is the mayor of the Kanger Island Council and joins us on the program. Michael, good morning. Do you just tell us about the sewer?
01:26:15
Speaker 8: This this.
01:26:17
Speaker 2: Famous surfing spot in k.
01:26:18
Speaker 10: I yeah, good morning Dave and your listeners. Look, the sewer is a well known spot on the south coast. We've got numbers of places over here where we've got considerable numbers of surfers go regularly. And I think this blake yesterday is probably up for a new wet suit and new pair of jocks after that.
01:26:38
Speaker 24: But look, it's a pretty.
01:26:40
Speaker 10: Spectacular southern coastline. The dar Street Bay down there, you have a big long Sandy Beach, and you go around a bit furd and you come by these little beaches and one of them is called the Sewer's been called the sewer as long as I can remember, and on certain winds the sewer works isn't said to be much surf. I saw the video last night. Didn't seem to be a lot of surf there, but there may have been sometime during the day that. Yeah, he's pretty bloody lucky.
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Speaker 2: I reckon Dave absolutely.
01:27:11
Speaker 3: Mike said, this part of K's there's not even a community there is there.
01:27:15
Speaker 2: It's like the bay. There's the bay, how do you say it? The street's bay, But no one really lives there today.
01:27:22
Speaker 10: No, it's directly south of Kingscote. Actually the road runs in a straight line straight down there. It's west of Pennington Bay. But yes, there are a few people who live down there in the scrub. There's I don't know how many be down there, probably ten or a dozen homes and some holiday places. There's been some long term shacks along the coast, been there for generations of families, which you know well loved. Yeah, part of that's now National park. Unfortunately it's been dragged into that mess and the sewers in that. Who is part of that?
01:27:57
Speaker 3: But yeah, the hospital that he drove to, it's in Kingskate. How long is the drive from the Stry's Bay to Kingscap What is about an our? Forty five minutes?
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Speaker 10: Oh no, no, no, thirty thirty five perhaps probably probably.
01:28:12
Speaker 2: Twenty If you're bleeding out, Michael, I reckon.
01:28:15
Speaker 10: It's going to say, if you're a lot less of you had a shark, you go like the Clappers, lucky, so lucky, so lucky.
01:28:29
Speaker 2: Michael, from sharks to bees. I'm sure you're across the story. The state government put out some advice this morning about the wonderful and very unique around the world be population in on Kangaroo Island that is potentially a victim of vroamite now coming into South Australia. They've announced a program for biosecurity checks, a sentinel hive program, and they're going to be checking all the selic fairies that go over from here on out. I presume this is something that you guys have been calling for.
01:28:58
Speaker 10: I love, we're very comfortable with it. So Minister Clais Gribven was here Friday. She met with the local commercial producers and the ones that do it for a bit of fun in the council chambers was open to people to go in. I think she reinforced the fact that they started putting bio security checks on every boat, where it was sometimes only during the day, but they've ramped that up to every boat. Now it's virtually impossible to stop everything. But there's cars coming down, our vehicles coming down through the river land where there has been varia might up that way. So anything we can do to limit it is helpful. But these things, you know, I'll get sucked into radiators, more sorts of things, Dave. So look, we're pleas that that's happened. It's a step in the right direction. It doesn't ensure that we won't get vera might here. But our Lagurian bees, as you well know, are the purest strain of Ligurian bees left in the world, so they're pretty industry. We've got a high than an old chimney on our place to spend there for decades. Actually well it's tetan of interest, but no, no, I'm quite quite happy where that's at.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. May and Michael Pengelly always wrote our chats and the Mayor of Kangar Island. We have the care Alert smart dialer, Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fortune in the studio with us. It could win you aker alert smart die. It could also use your home care package through my Age Care or the NDAs for a CA alert for free visit caerlert dot com dot Are you the way this works? We'll give it a spin. Each number corresponds with a birth year. If it's yours, you simply need to be the first caller through. So mister Penberg, we can give it a spin. We'll give it a spin and try with all you might for it not to come up. Number nineteen. The number is thirteen thirteen. Lucky for some this morning, number thirteen. So the year is nineteen thirty seven. Nineteen thirty seven. So someone who's eighty eight or turning eighty eight this year eineteen thirty seven was the year that Amelia Earhart disappeared. That that ill fated fight around the globe over them over the Pacific when from memory, I think no one on they had an instrumentation issue with the radio on board, and nobody on board knew Morse code, so they couldn't communicate their position to anyone, and it was the sort of an oversight that of that journey that they didn't know, so they were never found amazing. Someone will know better than I do, that's my It was something like that. There was there was an issue on board, and there was a there was a technology of the time that was available that they just didn't have any expertise in that would have potentially saved them or at least been at a workout their positioning. But we'll have someone who is more across Amelia than I certainly am.
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Speaker 3: Pretty hominous year in history, nineteen thirty seven, wasn't The Spanish Civil War had been going for a year. The Francoists invaded Spain and started their war against the government there, and everything was kicking off in Western Europe. Would have been a scary time to be bringing a children in the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, most certainly. Well, but pay dividend because they're gonna wear a carol it smart. Eighty eight years later, eighty seven years later, eight years later, what did I say? Eighty eight eighty eight years later? Yeah, all right? Eight double two three, double five is the number actually on that onus of stuffing up? Now, Well, I was going to say, I always want to read this text out because it suddenly it works. It was from Kaz, our wonderful listener, Caz, who says, greetings, congratulations ten years of being informed, but more importantly entertained, especially by your collective wonderful mats. You should be celebrating that four out of three people struggle with mats. Thank you for that, Kaz, and we love proving our listeners, right.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 29: Hi David and Will. Jane Riley here and I'm still in bed. I've got to say, I'm just calling in to congratulate you on your ten year partnership. What an amazing duo you are on Breakfast Radio. I'm so proud of being part of your amazing journey being out on the road on the early days reporting on the weather and anything else that was happening out and about around Adelaide. You have an incredible chemistry. Wishing you all the best and congratulations and his to the next ten years.
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Speaker 22: They're surprisingly big offers at Yon Day, like the two Sons from thirty nine ninet ninety drive Away.
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Speaker 13: Dealer Today, Deep and pen Berthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast Joan.
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Speaker 2: The ten years is officially Friday. My fear is we're going to run out of people who like us by the time we get to Friday. Jane Riley was a It was a huge part of the show. Jane Riley is the reason we have meat Trey Friday. Yeah. It started with a butcher and Capunda from memory, that's right. She brought the meat down and we thought we're going to give it away, and then that's how the idea was born. And Jane is and someone actually sent through us a text earlier, so they estimate we've given away fifty two thousand dollars worth of meet over the course of the journey. It's been going the whole time we've been together.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think we started it when it was when it was Jane and Mark and I No, didn't we but I know it was when Jane was on the road. It was when Jane was on the road. It was probably in our first year. It was very early in the piece. Working with Jane was such a pleasure and I used to joke to her that as a little boy, Jane used to I used to go to sleep with Jane. She'd put me to bed at night with fat Cat, and forty years later I was waking up with Jane.
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Speaker 2: Yeah to work with it, and knowing Jane, I imagine she never used that as an opportunity for a double on tendre. Jane has got the edgiest sense of human James, one of the funniest and loveliest people ever met your entire life. She was working with it yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Great, Hey, can I just do a shout out to well whoever. I've got this idea for a feature article that I want to write for The Australian over the next couple of weeks. And what I'm looking for I'm looking.
01:35:02
Speaker 2: For three people.
01:35:05
Speaker 3: Who used to work at the Holden factory and who still live in the Northern Suburbs. And what I want to do is just meet the three of you for a coffee, come out to wherever you are. We'll find a place that's central for everyone, and I just want to talk to you about your experience of working out Holden, the demise of the car industry. I want to get your thoughts about Australian manufacturing, about jobs in blue collar communities, and the backdrop to it, because I've got this hunch that there's been a bit of a sort of lefty pylon against Andrew Hasty. But I think some of the points that he's made will be of interest to people who grew up in the play for the era as kids knowing that there was a trade for them, there was a job for them that they could work at Chrysler, that they could work at Holden. So if you're keen, just ping us a text and say you know, yes, and I'd want to come out and meet the three of you. Bring a photographer, we'll get a shot of you, get your get your mug in the in the National broadsheet. But if you're keen, just as a text on the text line mental blank, what is.
01:36:19
Speaker 2: The text zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five, or you can call it and speak to Patty. Yeah.
01:36:23
Speaker 3: And if anyone's keen, Emily, it would just be chance to have a coffee and a yack.
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Speaker 2: Peculiarly for a left wing pilon and Andrew Hasty, considering that it was the left that was, you know, doing in favor of the incentives doing keep the car industry.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing that interests me because it's sort of it's a bit like the sort of policy overlap between the traditional blue collar Democrats represented by Bernie Sanders, Yes and Trump.
01:36:47
Speaker 2: And what's just what there's members of the Democrats in America who think tariff's are a pretty good idea. There's plenty of them. It's because but then you look.
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Speaker 3: At the other stream of the Democrats, epitomized by Hillary Clinton, Gliblis things to the people of Virginia like, Yeah, for me, a lot of we're gonna be a lot of co workers losing their jobs. That's a great message if you're at a fundraiser in Washington, DC. Not a good one if you're you know, in the appellations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the most powerful thing Andrew Hasty did in that video as we move on and you can't do this often in politics, but when you do it, if you do it occasionally, it's very powerful. He said, we got it wrong. Yeah, and it was self criticism. That's right, because it was the living it's so rare. Now if you come out all the time and go, whoops, we stuffed that one up, eventually will go well, let's get in someone who doesn't Yeah, but if occasionally you reflect as a politician and say that was a mistake, it can be to your benefit. And my sense is that was very much to his benefit in that video.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think too that smart people in the Labor Party. The person who worries that most is him, because it's a message that res and I think there's little seeds of something. I was looking at all the results in all of the federal seats in South Australia, the smallest swings to labor were in the northern suburbs. The biggest swings to labor are in you know, Goodwood and Burnside.
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Speaker 2: The more middle class.
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Speaker 3: It's more it's this sort of the left wing party that was the Workers Party becoming the party of the middle class.
01:38:18
Speaker 2: And this is why Coots was interesting the other day when.
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Speaker 3: He said, Wope, politics has been a disaster for parties of the center and the center left because it's just pushing blue collar people are going, why are we talking about this crap. I'm trying to, you know, make sure my kids have got a job. So anyway, if anyone's keen and pick us a text and we'll meet for coffee.
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Speaker 2: One thing we are talking about here that is very much front of mine has been the impact of the alcall bloom, and that there's perhaps a few groups that have been more acutely affected than our recreational fishes. Well that's the state government are investigating the possibility of lifting bands on a number of freshwater lakes and reserves across the state, places like the advertisers reporting Thornton Park Reserve and Paradise. And this will be controversial freshwater Lake at Delphin Island. Of course, vigilante residents still to attacking kids who tried to fish there in an attempt to give recfishes a place to go fishing. The other thing they would do is release more species out there. Asha Desires, the executive officer for Redfish Sa Asher, good morning to you. Does this sound like a good idea?
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Speaker 30: Yeah, absolutely, It's something we've advocated for right from the start and something we're working through with the Freshwater Working Group as part of the state government's response.
01:39:27
Speaker 3: So, Asha, are we only we're just talking about freshwater Yeah, yeah, currently.
01:39:33
Speaker 30: Yes, So we're looking opening new sites and reservoirs as well as stocking a whole heap of native species around the states.
01:39:40
Speaker 3: So what sort of fish are we going to release, So it depends on the.
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Speaker 30: Area and sort of the natural biodiversity. But you've obviously got horses for courses, so you wouldn't be putting maray cod in in small council lakes that sort of run dry. You wouldn't do it because they reach a meter long. And also some sites are any suitable for periodic stocking on cold water species in the winter, for example, like trout. So it's really hard to stay which areas and what species. But in short term we're looking at golden perch, silver perch, and potentially even some regionally extinct species, which.
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Speaker 9: Could be really cool.
01:40:18
Speaker 2: That's a great idea.
01:40:19
Speaker 3: And you know, I think, what about reservoirs, because are you allowed to fish like at Myponger. I know they've got the area there where you can go kayaking. Now can you fish in the reservoir there?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 30: Absolutely, And it's actually a really good site and we're working towards some pretty exciting projects there, which I'm sure you hear about in the next couple of weeks. But across all of the reservoirs you can go fishing, and the ones that are cleared for that and we're certainly pushing for a lot more access to resids around the state because there's some great facilities that are just being underutilized.
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Speaker 2: How quickly can you turn around the release of fish into a freshwater body of water and go fishing there. Do you have to have time for the pop to betty in order to grow or can you release an adult fish and then go fishing straight away.
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Speaker 30: Yeah, so that's something Recklishes they're really good at. We're good at activating sites for immediate fishing. So we can do murray cod tro out things like that and you'll be catching them within two days. So we did that recently at Valley Laking that Gambia, and the first murray cod got caught I Reckon about twenty four hours after the release. Well, but then they get pretty smart pretty quick, which is exactly what we want. We don't want them getting caught flood out. We want them to wise up smart enough and then they actually become a real challenge, which they are now.
01:41:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, these waterways that we're talking about, they are they free of the scourge of carp asha.
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Speaker 30: Not all of them, and to be fair, most of them do have carp in them, and the good thing that natives is they're really competitive at a larger size, So we're advocating for growing out fingling so that we're not putting in tiny fish. We're putting in larger fish, which obviously creates meat fisheries and really gives carp a hit on the head. So same thing we did in Valley Lakeymount, Gambia. We put cot up to a meter in there. Well started feeding on those carp hards. So they're real good by a control agent, and they're actually good for the environment in a competitive sense as well.
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Speaker 3: What an interesting story, what a good idea actually desire. The executive officer of Reckfish sa.
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Speaker 2: Hey, big congrats to Norm from West Beach to he was born January nineteen thirty seven and thus was eligible for the Carelert Smart dial This morning, Norm, it's all yours the Carelert smart dialer as we spun the wheel. The year that came up was nineteen thirty seven. You can also get the kre alert by using your home care package through my Age Care or the ndies and you might even get that care alert for free that way. Simply visit caer alert dot com dot AU.
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Speaker 3: Lovely message from our good mate Terry in Henley Beach. He says, congratulations on your ten years. I've been retired for eleven now and have enjoyed for the most every morning since, wishing all the best for the next in. Who knows the lips might even be back by then and you can finally retire to just kidding. Congratulations again and all the very best.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Terry. We appreciate Terry is that Theory is one of our listeners who we enjoy interacting with the most. Not just Terry, I mean the style of listener who can vehemently disagree, passionately cares about politics and things only, but gets that that's part of the cut and thrust correct, correct. And we've got conservative listeners like Scott and Mobray.
01:43:28
Speaker 3: Who some similar earlier yea, where it's like, you know, people on either sides of the political divide.
01:43:33
Speaker 2: They both disagree with us.
01:43:34
Speaker 3: Hammer and Thomas exactly fit sitting ponss. But we love all the messages and we love the chat. So good on you, Terry. Thank you for that, mate.
01:43:44
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Eight minutes two nine, The five double golf days not far away. We're partnering with Phil Hoffman Travel at the wonderful Glenell Golf Club on the seventeenth of October. And the best thing is you could be there for your chance to win. Simply had to FIVEAA dot com dot AU and register now this Friday we'll be calling someone as our lucky winner. Don't miss out all thanks to fill Off and Travel creating moments you'll never forget. Visit PhD dot com dot ef for hundreds of exclusive deals. Now we've been in contact with the airport about an incident we've been alerted to on the Police Home Care text line regarding a REX flight that saw people disembark on the tarmac. It looked like an emergency situation. This is the information though it was a scheduled flight to Broken Hill. Now, there was a mechanical fault on board the plane. Passengers had to disembark on the tarmac, so the runway was closed for about twenty minutes, reopened at eight am. So there may be delays that have come about, perhaps not, but there was a mechanical fault on board a REX flight that meant people had to get off on the tarmac had to be closed. Flight to Broken Hill. Doubtless we'll be hearing more information about that over the course of the day. When we spoke with Sapol a little bit earlier, Sergeant Peter Williams gave us a remarkable account of the exploits of a burglar overnight in Rundle Moore. Well, Peter Caldecot for seven years is at the scene and has been retracing the steps of a man who helped himself to some of the very fine stuff that's on offering Rundle Moore PC. Good morning to you. He certainly covered some ground this big well.
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Speaker 24: Yes, this is a bit of a bizarre break in. I'm here at the underground food hall at the Myer Center where just after three am security guards actually arrested a guy who was here snooping around. Somehow he's managed to get into the my Center, I'm not sure exactly how, and then gone through some of the stalls down here, like the kios and stuff, and when the security guards arrested him, they found he was in possession of a laptop and some key fobs. And we've just had a lot at some of the security footage down here and you can see him just wandering around at three o'clock in the morning, sort of helping himself, which is kind of bizarz. You wouldn't have thought this would be the place you'd break into or was try and steal anything, But that seems to be the case.
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Speaker 3: So was anyone else in there at that time, Peter, or did they just find out that he was there? By just monitoring the video well.
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Speaker 24: On the CCTV, you can see there are a security guard sort of wandering around, obviously after he was arrested. Police are here, and there's a couple of delivery guys sort of delivering bread or other goods. So maybe he followed one of those guys into the building. But it's really like Fort Knox down here, and to get him there's not an easy feat. But he's quite eerie watching this guy just wandering around at three in the morning, sort of helping himself to whatever he liked.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Thanks for that piece, he Peter old Coop for seven years adelaide at the Myer Center. If I was left to my own devices in the food court at the Myer Center, I'd go straight to that Eros place in the corner.
01:47:07
Speaker 2: They did great Eros.
01:47:09
Speaker 3: Is that right, it's really good euros. I'm just starting to mentally rank Euroses.
01:47:15
Speaker 2: There's a really good one on Omley Road.
01:47:19
Speaker 3: Yarnis of course in Hinley Street, although disappointedly went there the other day it was closed for redevelopment.
01:47:24
Speaker 2: There's another good one near the qu e h. This could be This should be your next OZ feature.
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Speaker 3: Imagine ringing the Sydney News desk. I've got an idea for a storing for Saturday and ten best euroshops. They had move papers. They even know what they are in Sydney. Well they call them a gyro, don't they well know they call them gyros in Melbourne, but they call them donu kebabs in Sydney. But having said that, the donor kebab is a different proposition. The donor kebab is that beautiful Arabic shaved beef that's pressed into it's like a giant kofta and they shave it and it comes with tabuli. And yeah, it's a different it's more of a Middle Eastern thing. But because of our Hellenic heritage, the eros here in Adaly is a good thing.
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Speaker 2: I'll buy that paper worth sell significantly. Let's check traffic before we leave this morning, not traffic. Should I say, let's check the fuel situation. Better be a member with RAA road service. I've got my roads confused. Fuel watch. The mobile northeast right at Gillis Planes is the cheapest. That one's still in the mid dollar fifties dollar fifty five point five. Otherwise over a dollar sixty is still not bad. The mobile Shadow Park, for example, dollar sixty one point five and down south of Christie's Beach. Also the shell ow tier dollar sixty one point nine. So if you're down south, you're going to get it at just over a dollar sixty. But as Gillis Planes tells us, out north, mid dollar fifties still the cheapest diesel. Diesels come off a little touch. The cheapest today at dollars sixty nine point five. Also, the mobile at Shadow Park was yesterday it was the mid dollars, So diesels come down a tick even as an unleaded has risen. That's just about all from us on this Wednesday morning. Thank you for all your wonderful messages about the ten year anniversary that's coming up this Friday. I've heard from some former contributors and current contributors to the program this morning, so I've had a lot of.
01:49:17
Speaker 3: Messages and also am Andy and Roseworthy. Andy is the first cab off the rank for my ex Holden worker experiment. He worked a Holding for seven years.
01:49:25
Speaker 2: Mate.
01:49:26
Speaker 3: I'll get in touch with your pingy of text. Probably won't catch up for coffee until well whatever suits everyone, but for later next week or something. But glad that I've already got one taker and hopefully you get a couple.
01:49:36
Speaker 2: More so, if you are interested as someone of a former Holden worker that lives in the Northern Suburbs, you can get touch with our producers Patty Emily, or you can flick us a text on the Police Homecare text line. You'll be sitting down for a chat with David for a piece in the Australian, which I think would be a make a fascinating read, perhaps even more so than the top ten year oss joints. Graham Goodings is coming up next. We will catch you tomorrow morning for a socer rollo.
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Speaker 1: I think you should David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast
