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Pull up the gray.
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Quick little depth and left hook left.
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On the first box, left back.
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Welcome to another distance of D's Badgers.
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That's right, folks.
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We are back and ready to entertain you once again.
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I am your host, Daryl D.
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White.
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And sitting beside me today is my guest co-host, Brandon Pierce.
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How you doing, Brandon?
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What's up, y'all?
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What's going on, D?
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What you doing, bud?
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Just uh trying to make a living these days, man.
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Trying to do these podcasts.
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Stay alive, man.
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How about you stuff?
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Hello, hey, brother, man.
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We're out here working, doing what we can, you know, making what money we can do.
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And uh Well, man, the the reason why I had you on today, man, is I just recently, well, not recently now, it's been over a year that I moved back from Nashville.
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And when I was in Nashville, man, it was all about people following their dreams.
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It wasn't too long ago that me and you started having this conversation.
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I found out that you got a dream.
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What is your dream, man?
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Oh, my dream is to end up somewhere in the TFL, the UFC, or into uh uh what the following dream.
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You know, I uh I started off in RTC, doing my thing with different cadets uh first year, second year, started having a good relationship with my cadets.
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You know, the the skill team uh offered me an opportunity in the RTC program to where I could do more things that I like, you know, I wanted to do physically.
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I like to put my hands on things other than just think about things.
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Other than that, I have a little wrestling background.
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You know, when I was real young, my grandpa put me in Taekwondo.
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I did detail in Taekwondo, you know, I got up to a green belt.
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Wrestling has has led me into a greater part of that.
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I've also liked to explain that to my father.
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You know, my dad's always been interested in boxing and is always wanted to put the gloves on when we get home and stuff like that.
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Having that drive every day when I get home from school, get off at 3 o'clock, go to wrestling practice, get off at 7, be picked up, and then come home and still put on the gloves and be willing to box.
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How old are you?
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I'm 19, so I was a natural man.
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I was a door guy.
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And you know, I always loved opening the doors.
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I worked at this uh place called the Phillips Dill Guitar Box.
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I watched so many people walking my dreams, watched a lot of people walk out to fulfill their dreams.
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I've got some kind of um a plan for you today, man.
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I've got uh a guest that we're gonna go meet up with out at Hacienda.
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Uh where I'm working at now, if people that have listened to the show before know that I'm usually in the bar business.
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I'm now managing a Mexican restaurant.
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Oh Lord, get ready for this.
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I mean, I'm used to my co-workers not understanding the damn word I'm saying.
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You know, usually it's fur, you know.
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I mean, I'll be talking perfectly fine and they'd be looking at me like, what the f is this?
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But I do like it, man.
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Uh anyway, we're gonna head down to Hacienda, man.
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I've got two-time world champion boxer Homer Lee Gibbons, I'm gonna introduce you to, buddy.
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And let's see if we can't open that door for you, man.
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Start making these connections.
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Everybody's got a dream, man, and I'd love to see you follow it, man.
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So uh are are you in to uh head down to Hacienda?
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I'm glad to go see Homer, man.
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That is a wonderful opportunity for me.
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That's gonna open up many doors for me.
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It's in the Bible, man.
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When God closes a door, he opens another.
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All right, man.
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Well, we're gonna head on down, man, and we'll be right back with Homer Lee Gibbons.
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How are you doing, Homer?
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I'm doing good.
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I'm glad to be here.
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What's going on, chat?
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Hey, my man.
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So, what is going on, Homer?
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Life.
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I want to start off with thank you and Byron Stone and both your wives for letting me tag along on June 6th to celebrate Prince's birthday right out here inside of Atlanta.
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You know, Prince did his last show here in Atlanta, so that was really special for me.
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What did you think about that night?
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Oh, it was awesome.
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I've been a Prince fan since, you know, middle school.
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Just loved Prince.
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I met him in '93.
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Oh, wow.
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What was that like?
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Oh man.
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Me, Evander, and MC Hammer.
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And my ex-wife went to see Prince at the uh Fox Theater, the new power generation.
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It was just a ball.
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And then after the concert was over, Evander said, Hey, we all gonna go out to Rupert's and hang with the band.
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I said, What?
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So he went to Rupert's afterwards, and you know, I got to dance with my tie.
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And so it wasn't the revolution.
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No, it wasn't revolution.
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Oh man, I would have loved to have met Prince, period, but the revolution, I'd I'll never forget Purple Rain.
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I would have loved to have met the revolution as well.
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But like I say, just hanging him with Prince.
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He's like he's only like 5'2, that's with heels on.
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I mean, small, small dude.
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So you're saying he's shorter than me?
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Yes.
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He's like just a little thin dude, and he's got a deep voice, but he's so cool, though.
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Grew up listening to him since I was a kid.
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Loved him.
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I thought, wow.
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And here I was getting to hang out with him and the band.
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Dude, it was awesome.
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Man, that's awesome.
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He got snowed in.
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We went back from Rupert's to the hotel, the Riz Carlton.
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He was playing the piano at three something in the morning.
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Look outside and it's snowing.
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And he's like, sometimes it snows in April.
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And I was just like, oh man.
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And so we had to get on the road, get home because I had to go to Vanders and then go somewhere else.
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So it was crazy, crazy.
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I think I would be like a little schoolgirl if I would have met Prince, man.
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Yeah, I was trying to stay composed.
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But yes, inside I was just like, oh, it's Prince.
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What about the time you met Muhammad Ali?
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How was that?
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Meeting Ali was one thing.
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He came to watch me fight.
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He walks in, and everybody stops talking, you know, stops looking at me, and they're looking at Ali.
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And I say, hey, don't come in here trying to steal my attention.
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He's like, Homer, you got on pink.
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Ain't nobody gonna steal your attention.
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Be quiet.
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When I seen you fight, Camacho Camacho for the middleweight champion of the world before the was it the Evander and Mercer fight?
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Was that?
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Yep, Evander and Mercer fight.
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What year was that?
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95.
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Oh, wow, dude.
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I remember where I was.
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I was at my brother's house, and we watched that fight, and you came out in a pink tuxedo.
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And you were known for that.
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What was that with the pink tuxedo?
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How many people have you seen fight and and they come out looking like the Godfather?
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Or Tupac.
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No Tupac, man.
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I was trying to bring in elegance to the sport because I want to be classy.
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Always boxed in pink since I turned professional.
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Usually you started off with just black shorts with a pink band.
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And then I went full pink and pink with black trim.
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Of course, like say I've had people who say, look, you you're too manly to fight in pink.
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You're gonna have to change your color.
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Slightly go to fuchsia and then red.
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Nah, that's not the way I am.
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They're like, how are you then?
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I said, not like that.
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So tell me, what was it like fighting before Vanderholyfield and fighting Hamacho Camacho?
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Man, you know, Camacho was just such a natural talent.
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He's just so amazing.
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My first pro fight was on undercard with Camacho.
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Really?
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Out in Lake Tahoe.
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And so I met him back then, never knew that one day I'm gonna fight you.
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I was just amazed at his speed.
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What people don't tell you though is the guy can hit too with speed constraint.
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He was fast and he could hit with good shots and he was powerful.
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Uh Vinny Pazienza, who fought Camacho, was cheering me on the whole time, telling me, Homer, break him down, Homer, break him down.
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He don't like Camacho, but uh Vinny Paz, he uh good guy.
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I like I love Vinny, he's a great guy.
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Camacho, which is out of box.
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Camacho's fast, he hits you, and then when you go to throw back, he's behind you.
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Oh, wow.
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I don't think you got knocked down in that fight at all, dude.
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In the very first round, just being starstruck, my feet crossed in the back.
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When they crossed, he threw a left hand hit.
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I stumbled back.
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Oh, look at Camacho showing his strength.
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Y'all know I was off balance.
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Yeah, y'all know I was off balance.
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You had some other controversial fights with uh what was his name, man, that you when you fought for the world championship a few times.
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Name is the Chad.
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Chad bad Chad Brusov.
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Chad Chad Brushaw.
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I think he won all three fights.
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I f I felt I did.
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But uh, you know, I I don't take anything from Chad.
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Great fighter.
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Yeah, I will tell you something about Chad.
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I I respect greatly.
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The first fight we had, they gave him decision.
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All he had to do was say, Oh, yeah, I won the fight.
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But no, he wanted to fight me again to prove to people that he won a fight.
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Of course, it didn't work for him.
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How'd that work out for him, Homer?
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Got him in the fourth round.
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I love to do that.
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We talk every now and then.
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I'm friends with a lot of guys that I fought.
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It's so funny because just recently I got in touch with a guy named Darren McGrew.
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My first eight-round fight.
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Me and him were training with Pernel up in Virginia Beach, and he took care of me.
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He was trying to treat me like he's my father.
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I was up there in the gym, and we got back in town, and then like a few fights later, all of a sudden they said, We want you to start fighting eight rounds.
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And they said, We're gonna let you fight Darren McGrew.
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I said, Oh, Darren McGrew is a guy that I was training with up in Virginia, and they said, Yeah.
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But then Darren said, Well, just like father's gotta do to a son, I'm gonna spank you.
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I said, Well, we're gonna see about that.
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How many people told you they're gonna spank you and then you just end up tearing them apart?
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Are we talking about women?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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I'm not getting involved with that, man.
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I ain't ended up on Joe Brown, you know what I'm saying?
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And you were on Joe Brown, man.
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I took the I I took the IBU uh on Joe Joe Joe.
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Well, a friend of mine, after I beat Chad Broussard, and I won the title.
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The next morning when I woke up, newspaper had it in the paper down Louisiana that I was being stripped of the title.
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What?
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Being stripped of the title after you whooped his butt in the fourth round and knocked him out.
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And what was that about?
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Did they have to watch Joe Brown to figure out the rest?
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Or well, I mean, you can see the fight a little bit on the on the Joe Brown show, but it was something between Don Moose Lewis and me.
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He was promoting boxing or trying to promote boxing here in Atlanta.
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They tried to sign me to a contract, yeah.
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And I signed the contract thinking that we were gonna be fighting, but they never put in fights.
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They just called me up and said, hey, meet us over here at the strip club.
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I'm like, Well, what are we doing at a strip club?
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Who am I fighting?
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You're fighting a Nikki coming up on the main stage.
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I was like, yeah.
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And my wife is, you know, she doesn't want me being that person.
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She was upset about them wanting me always going to the bar.
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So I told him I said, dude, if we're not doing boxing, I'm just gonna move on with my career.
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And I did.
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So he was saying that he had money spent.
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Like, where are you gonna spend money at?
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At the strip club?
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Well, they could find this on YouTube, just punch it.
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Homer, Lee Gibbons, Judge O'Brien.
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I think they have it like four parts or three parts.
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Yeah.
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So definitely check that out.
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And of course, we can find all your fights on YouTube, correct?
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Not all of them.
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For a long time, they were only the ones I lost.
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Did you get in touch with YouTube and say, hey man, put some of that stuff up that's where I'm winning?
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One of my friends, Anthony, he started putting some fights on there for me.
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He's like, he goes, You gotta promote yourself.
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I'm like, yeah I don't I don't know about all that stuff.
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He goes, No, I know that's what I'm trying to tell you.
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He's you gotta promote yourself.
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I'm like let me do a little bit of bragging on you, man.
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You I actually got a card from you earlier, and it's made by K Fab cardboard.
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I'm just looking at some of these stats on here.
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Having 226 wins as an amateur fighter and winning 27 state championships, 14 golden glove titles, and an impressive different award.
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Gibbons turned professional in 1990 with the guidance of a Vander Holyfield.
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What was it like working with a Vander?
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I've known him since I was six years old and came into boxing altogether.
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He used to fight a guy named Antonio Arnold that was on my team.
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We were from Jesse Draper Boys Club, and they were from War Memorial.
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So we knew one another.
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And then in 1980, when we moved to Riverdale, I started fighting under Carter Morgan.
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And Carter Morgan, they were the ones that had Evander.
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So Evander was on their team.
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So he was then we were on, we were teammates.
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And it wasn't about four years later he was going to the Olympics.
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Okay.
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And that's where he fought Mike Tyson, correct?
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They sparred together.
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Oh, okay.
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Tyson was heavyweight.
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Evander was light heavyweight.
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And of course, we all know what happened when they met up in what was it, 96, 97?
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Yep.
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Of course, we ain't gonna go into all that, man.
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I ain't got the ear for it.
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Neither does Evander.
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God, that was such a lame joke.
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Now I'm back in Atlanta.
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We're now hanging a lot, man.
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We're gonna go see Firing Stone.
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You're gonna take me to go see him wrestle.
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I met him over here in McDonough.
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He was training over there at Hard Knox Gym over here in McDonough.
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Me and him got to know each other then.
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It's funny because in in the fight circle, you you kind of know people or you see faces and you know faces, but you don't know where you know them from.
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But I was like, oh, I know this dude.
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And then next thing you know, I went to a wrestling match, right?
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I'm like, oh dude, I know this dude, dude.
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I thought he was the bass player for this A's band.
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He's like, nah, dude, this is a bad dude.
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I was like, you could have told me before I got there I was about to meet this guy and put my foot in my mouth.
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And right from the beginning, you just did that laugh over there that night.
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You're like, yeah, go ahead and stick that foot in your mouth.
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Well, I've got Brandon here that's helping me co-host this episode.
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And uh, because you know I love, I mean, you know all about me being out in Nashville and everything.
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I love to see people at least open that door for a connection to help their dreams come true.
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And he has dreams of being in the UFC.
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We talked about it in our opening break and everything.
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But Brandon, do you got any questions for Homer today?
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I do got one question for the champ.
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Have you ever uh gotten to with a uh UFC fighter?
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Okay, story.
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Oh Lord.
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When I was training at Hard Knocks, it's now independent MMA, they had a bunch of MMA guys in there and they had a bunch of boxers.
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I was working with a guy and I was helping him work on his up game, standing up fight, boxing, which is what I do.
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He said, Hey, would you mind helping me?
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I said, No, I don't mind at all.
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So I've been doing this since I was six years old.
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So you're not gonna come in the rain, never boxed before, and how box me.
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Not even chance.
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But all his friends and stuff were watching outside the rain, watching him in the rain with me, and they're like, man, he's killing you.
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He's beating you to death.
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So then all of a sudden they said they start saying stuff like, I wonder what would have happened if you did what you do and he does what he does, and who would win?
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And so then he's like, hey dude, why don't we get in the rain like you do what you do and I do it?
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What did you mean?
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You do what you do.
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I say, You mean you want to kick me?
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No, I'm not really into that.
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So finally he said, like two or three weeks, man.
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Just every time we be in the gym twice a week, every time I go there, he's like, just one time.
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I was like, dude, I don't want to get kicked.
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I don't even watch your legs.
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So finally he said, just I'm gonna tell you what, just one round, one round.
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I was like, all right, fine, okay, one round.
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The bell rang.
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I ran across rings.
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I hit that dude so many times.
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Man, I'm gonna tell you what.
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He's like, dude, I ain't never seen this side of you before.
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I said, Yeah, you ain't never seen me get kicked either.
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It ain't gonna be today.
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I definitely appreciate you taking the time and stopping by today.
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Hey, would you take a look at some of this film that Brandon has and maybe let him do like a 30-second minute of shadow boxing and see if he's got potential?
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And we'll catch up with you in a couple of weeks and see what you thought.
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Oh, yeah, most definitely.
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Well, it's always a pleasure.
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We're gonna be hanging a lot.
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Y'all better get used to the name Homer Lee Gibbons because I'm back in Georgia and we're hanging, and we are going to be doing a lot of these podcasts.
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So there's so much to cover with you, and you got to help me get Byron on.
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I would love to have him on the show.
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And it's always a great hang, man, champ.
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And don't forget to come see me down here at Hacienda in South Point in McTonna, Georgia.
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We are the home of the world's best margarita, and we'd love to see you.
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I can't say a good old margarita, huh?
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We all know that Homer don't drink.
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Man, but that was a great impression.
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Great impression.
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Man, y'all stick around.
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We're gonna have a lot more coming up here on the Dees Banter.
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Thanks for calling the Dees Banter Podcast.
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This is Daryl D.
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White.
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Who do we got on the phone tonight?
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Uh, this is Tigger.
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What's up?
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What's up, Tigger?
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How you doing, buddy?
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Good, man.
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How are you?
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Good, man.
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It's been a few weeks, man.
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I met you at Hacienda.
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That's a new place that I'm working at now.
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Yeah, I was there with my family, visiting some of my cousins that I haven't seen in a while.
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Kind of the only family I really have left nowadays.
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So, yeah, just meeting up with them.
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Kind of a halfway point for a few of us.
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And thank God they were a little late, man, because if not, we probably would not have had the conversation we had.
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But it's hard to find somebody that intrigues me, man.
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I'm a big history buff when it comes to music and bars and different stuff like that.
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I'm addicted to it.
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And you had me at you started telling me what happened with Cowboys that was in Kinnesaw and everything.
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Is that what did happen with Cowboys?
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It got torn down, I'm afraid.
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Seems like all the good was due.
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Yeah, they built some like little apartment condo things, whatever you call them, basically where the property was.
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But the exact location of the specific building the Cowboys was in is pretty much just a little grassy field now, like next to where they built.
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So they didn't even build directly where that part of the building was.
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So it's kind of just like a slap in the face, like, hey, we tore it down and didn't even build anything right here.
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So it sucks.
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Well, I I haven't really had a lot of time to get out and about in Atlanta.
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Is there anything like cowboys or like the buckboard or anything like that that's still around here in Georgia?
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Oh, buckboard had some good times in there too.
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No, not really that I know of.
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That's kind of my thing, man.
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I was a big line dancer for a long time, and so you kind of have to go on road trips now to get to find anywhere good.
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Used to be able to go to Chattanooga.
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They had uh a cool bar there.
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Actually, where cowboys was here by me, it got bought out at a certain point and it changed and became Electric Cowboy.
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And it was it used to be an electric cowboy in Chattanooga, but it unfortunately closed out before it was here.
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So we go up there on the weekends sometimes too to hang out, you know, make a little road trip of there, or of course you got Cotton Eye Joe's in Knoxville, and then I've been to Coyote Joe's, which is in Charlotte, and it's really cool too.
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It's got a really like you walk in the door and it's like nostalgia hits you in the face.
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Wow, man.
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But I mean these clubs that we were talking about, I mean, the Cowboys, this place was huge, man.
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You know, back in the days they were packed.
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Is it because you think that the lease ran out, or do you think that uh people just were not packing the place out like they used to?
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I think they had a a dwindling of just the customer base in there, honestly, I think was part of it.
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I don't know all the politics of it per se there at the end.
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I was in really good with some of the original people that used to be there like years ago.
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Well, I mean, I remember going there with my mom when I was a little kid, going to that shopping center and it being like a Kmart and a Win Dixie and like a little mom and pop's video store, as I was telling you the other day when I met you, like right in between them.
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Like I remember when that was a thing, and then you know, after the fact, like it became a club called Crystal Chandelier, which then kind of morphed and evolved into Cowboys, which eventually morphed and evolved into Electric Cowboy.
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Oh, yeah.
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The last time I was at Cowboys was a friend of mine, God rest his soul, Joey Floyd.
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He was running sound for Wade Hayes, and it was his last gig with Wade Hayes before he went to play with he became a utility player for Toby.
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He was also the little boy in Honey's Uncle Rose with Willie Nelson.
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But I remember he gave me these backstage passes, which at Cowboys that means that he was in the storage room.
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Basically, yeah.
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I took a buddy with me, and I told him, man, I was like, dude, I know there's not much back here, but trying to explain to him how these bigger artists run things is that do not bring anybody back here.
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And I'll be damned if it wasn't like 20 minutes later, I see these two girls walking through with his pass.
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I got grilled out.
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But moving on, man, is that another thing that intrigues me about you was that not only the line dancing and the history that you knew about some of my favorite places, you're kind of like a movie star, man, in sort of a sense, if I'm correct.
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I mean uh my little, I guess 15 minutes, so to speak.
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I wouldn't go full blown movie star yet.
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I mean, you know, that's one of the goals someday, you know.
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But I was an extra, like in the background of the remake of Footloose, so that was pretty cool.
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I did a few scenes in that, and they haven't actually had an open casting call at Cowboys to do that, actually.
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So some of my friends actually are kind of in there with me, and then I got picked to be in one of the more forefront scenes when they're inside of the bar.
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And then like I'm in one of the church scenes too that they were filming with Dennis Quaid like preaching and stuff.
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And then I had my brief stint on a reboot of the old dating show Love Connection.
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Like I was on there for an episode.
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So I had a friend that was on there also, man.
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She was on Love Connection and she was on the gall show.
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But yeah, man, how'd your experience go?
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Did were you the person that was picking or the one of the ones that were getting picked?
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You know, there I wanted to be one of the ones that was like going on three dates and picking, but I actually ended up being one of the three guys that the girl went on a date with and then she got a pick.
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Alright, did she pick you?
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From all the politics and everything I heard kind of behind the scenes with everything and the fact that like my friend went with me to the studio when we actually filmed the day of and sat next to her he sat next to her friend.
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You know, and then of course he informed me he's like, dude, she's like a millionaire and like her friend told me that she was going to pick you but she didn't like your beard and when I first talked to them I had my beard and I was going to cut it but they were like no you can't cut it you got to keep the beard we don't have too many contestants that have beards that's kinda kinda adds the layer to the show or whatever, so to speak.
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So like they made me keep it and then she didn't like it.
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So well at least you didn't turn out to be a serial killer.
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Do you you know there was a guy what I forget what serial killer it was, but one of them dating shows, I think it it wasn't Love Connect, I think it was the dating game or whatever.
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I know what you're talking about.
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I've actually seen that I I know what you're talking about.
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Yep.
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Pretty wild.
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At least you escape without being a serial killer so I call that a successful friend.
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I don't know too much about it but I know when I was a little kid like one of my hairdressers turned out to be like it was had some kind of thing where they killed somebody or something.
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Like I was pretty young I just remember being told about it.
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It's kind of a similar situation which is kind of wild to think about you knew a serial killer?
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I don't remember what the whole detail I don't think serial killer.
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I think she like killed somebody I don't think she was a serial killer.
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But a murderer yeah like nonetheless yeah man my neighbor that I grew up with he murdered somebody down here at this motel.
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Wow were y'all close I was more closer with his brother and everything but I knew these I mean he was probably six seven years younger than me but I knew his whole family again they were next door I watched him grow up yeah I think it was the drugs that got to him man because he you know some people can't handle it man when he was off drugs he was I mean a ladies man he was a smart kid but he get on them drugs man and he turned into a different person.
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I'm not gonna lie D this world's tough man like it's really tough.
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You'd really you gotta be a strong man or woman to really survive this world especially nowadays man.
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I'm pretty strong willed so I got a good head on my shoulders and don't do dumb stuff but I understand why people do though.
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If you're the least bit not strong or can be weak minded or get easily influenced or whatever or somebody just beats you down and beats you down and beats you down like life does man, it's easy to turn to the dark side and whatever.
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I get it, dude.
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I'm not condoning it but I understand it.
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Turn to the dark side is they get sucked into it, bro.
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That's what happened to me years ago is that you get close enough to it it would suck you and it was not necessarily the drugs that got me to quit.
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It was that the people that you had to deal with to get the drugs or that was hanging around while you did them.
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I get it.
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And I don't know how the hell that I ever got sold on that man because if you look at anybody that's on some of their major drugs man it's like dude that is not a salesperson that should be able to sell this so easily.
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No, it's really not it's like in the beginning you start certain things and I get the allure of like oh it's gonna make me feel like this or it's just gonna give me energy or it's gonna make me feel good or it's gonna enhance something or whatever.
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But then it's like you said that's a good point.
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If you look at somebody that's really hardcore been doing it like that's not a good sales pitch to do it because you you see those long term effects and it's like yeah I'm good.
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What they they're good at though man is that they will clean the shit out of your house.
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That's funny and do it for cheap.
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Right I mean they'd be like man I cleaned your whole house for a dollar fifty this is not a made up story man is that one day you know I take Ubers a lot I was actually coming home one night from work and I called an Uber.
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This girl picked me up and as we were getting closer to the house she looks back at me and she says do you mind if I stop at this store and pick up some Coke and a Pepsi and I was like no not a problem and I watched her walk into the store and she walked out with a Pepsi and then walked over to a car and bought some cocaine I wasn't even thinking about that man but you know I couldn't get mad at her because I did give her permission but it was all in the wording it was like do you mind if we stop and I get some Coke and some Pepsi and I'm like Hey you know at least she was nice enough to ask first.
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She even offered me some but I was like nah I'm good man.
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I'm good a pretty good friend of mine that like he's actually good now I think for the most part and he's kind of got a wife and has a biological son and then he has some stepchildren and kind of training himself out man but it's like he's getting to these moments before like meeting her and going down that road and all that man where he just was doing stuff and I'm like man I'm still your friend but I was like I can't go down this road with you bro and I'm trying to remember back man to because I mean we covered a lot that night I was working and you were trying to you know hang out with your family you drove all the way down from Kinnesaw.
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Aren't you a musician yourself?
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No I am not I would love to be but just not like I'd like to be a singer that's what we talked about like I like doing karaoke and stuff but I would love to be a singer and I would I'd like to try and learn guitar again too I tried when I was a teenager and I instructor which is not a very good instructor he sat there and played he never really showed me how to do anything.
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We just sit there and play like you're gonna teach me bro last thing I want to ask you man because you saw me at the very end of our conversation when I first met you is that and it's in my phone.
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How did you get the name Tigger?
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:56.079
You know I've had that name for probably over half my life now and I don't even 100% remember how it came about.
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Like I would almost say jokingly maybe I just gave myself a nickname but I don't even remember man.
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:12.960
And then of course it kind of took on a life of its own because some people would you know of course want to joke around be like oh Tigger because he bounces from girl to girl and I'm like no that's not why I'm tigger but it's filled with funny want to joke around about I can appreciate the joke.
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I mean that or or people that listen to the first part of our podcast might be because you hang out with a lot of people that are poop.
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There you go that's a good one.
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That's a good all right you have a blessed evening and we'll talk to you soon and again buddy you call it anytime I'm herewise God bless you banner Yeah pull up the mic pull up the grant these bands back and we're all in a quick little jab to the left hook left room gets loud on the first ball crash snap back snap back snap back to the afternoon
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Welcome to another distance of D's Badgers.
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That's right, folks.
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We are back and ready to entertain you once again.
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I am your host, Daryl D.
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White.
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And sitting beside me today is my guest co-host, Brandon Pierce.
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How you doing, Brandon?
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What's up, y'all?
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What's going on, D?
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What you doing, bud?
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Just uh trying to make a living these days, man.
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Trying to do these podcasts.
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Stay alive, man.
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How about you stuff?
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Hello, hey, brother, man.
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We're out here working, doing what we can, you know, making what money we can do.
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And uh Well, man, the the reason why I had you on today, man, is I just recently, well, not recently now, it's been over a year that I moved back from Nashville.
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And when I was in Nashville, man, it was all about people following their dreams.
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It wasn't too long ago that me and you started having this conversation.
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I found out that you got a dream.
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What is your dream, man?
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Oh, my dream is to end up somewhere in the TFL, the UFC, or into uh uh what the following dream.
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You know, I uh I started off in RTC, doing my thing with different cadets uh first year, second year, started having a good relationship with my cadets.
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You know, the the skill team uh offered me an opportunity in the RTC program to where I could do more things that I like, you know, I wanted to do physically.
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I like to put my hands on things other than just think about things.
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Other than that, I have a little wrestling background.
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You know, when I was real young, my grandpa put me in Taekwondo.
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I did detail in Taekwondo, you know, I got up to a green belt.
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Wrestling has has led me into a greater part of that.
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I've also liked to explain that to my father.
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You know, my dad's always been interested in boxing and is always wanted to put the gloves on when we get home and stuff like that.
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Having that drive every day when I get home from school, get off at 3 o'clock, go to wrestling practice, get off at 7, be picked up, and then come home and still put on the gloves and be willing to box.
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How old are you?
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I'm 19, so I was a natural man.
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I was a door guy.
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And you know, I always loved opening the doors.
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I worked at this uh place called the Phillips Dill Guitar Box.
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I watched so many people walking my dreams, watched a lot of people walk out to fulfill their dreams.
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I've got some kind of um a plan for you today, man.
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I've got uh a guest that we're gonna go meet up with out at Hacienda.
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Uh where I'm working at now, if people that have listened to the show before know that I'm usually in the bar business.
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I'm now managing a Mexican restaurant.
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Oh Lord, get ready for this.
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I mean, I'm used to my co-workers not understanding the damn word I'm saying.
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You know, usually it's fur, you know.
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I mean, I'll be talking perfectly fine and they'd be looking at me like, what the f is this?
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But I do like it, man.
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Uh anyway, we're gonna head down to Hacienda, man.
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I've got two-time world champion boxer Homer Lee Gibbons, I'm gonna introduce you to, buddy.
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And let's see if we can't open that door for you, man.
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Start making these connections.
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Everybody's got a dream, man, and I'd love to see you follow it, man.
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So uh are are you in to uh head down to Hacienda?
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I'm glad to go see Homer, man.
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That is a wonderful opportunity for me.
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That's gonna open up many doors for me.
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It's in the Bible, man.
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When God closes a door, he opens another.
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All right, man.
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Well, we're gonna head on down, man, and we'll be right back with Homer Lee Gibbons.
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How are you doing, Homer?
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I'm doing good.
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I'm glad to be here.
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What's going on, chat?
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Hey, my man.
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So, what is going on, Homer?
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Life.
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I want to start off with thank you and Byron Stone and both your wives for letting me tag along on June 6th to celebrate Prince's birthday right out here inside of Atlanta.
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You know, Prince did his last show here in Atlanta, so that was really special for me.
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What did you think about that night?
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Oh, it was awesome.
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I've been a Prince fan since, you know, middle school.
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Just loved Prince.
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I met him in '93.
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Oh, wow.
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What was that like?
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Oh man.
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Me, Evander, and MC Hammer.
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And my ex-wife went to see Prince at the uh Fox Theater, the new power generation.
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It was just a ball.
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And then after the concert was over, Evander said, Hey, we all gonna go out to Rupert's and hang with the band.
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I said, What?
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So he went to Rupert's afterwards, and you know, I got to dance with my tie.
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And so it wasn't the revolution.
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No, it wasn't revolution.
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Oh man, I would have loved to have met Prince, period, but the revolution, I'd I'll never forget Purple Rain.
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I would have loved to have met the revolution as well.
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But like I say, just hanging him with Prince.
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He's like he's only like 5'2, that's with heels on.
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I mean, small, small dude.
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So you're saying he's shorter than me?
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Yes.
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He's like just a little thin dude, and he's got a deep voice, but he's so cool, though.
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Grew up listening to him since I was a kid.
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Loved him.
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I thought, wow.
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And here I was getting to hang out with him and the band.
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Dude, it was awesome.
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Man, that's awesome.
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He got snowed in.
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We went back from Rupert's to the hotel, the Riz Carlton.
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He was playing the piano at three something in the morning.
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Look outside and it's snowing.
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And he's like, sometimes it snows in April.
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And I was just like, oh man.
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And so we had to get on the road, get home because I had to go to Vanders and then go somewhere else.
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So it was crazy, crazy.
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I think I would be like a little schoolgirl if I would have met Prince, man.
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Yeah, I was trying to stay composed.
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But yes, inside I was just like, oh, it's Prince.
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What about the time you met Muhammad Ali?
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How was that?
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Meeting Ali was one thing.
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He came to watch me fight.
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He walks in, and everybody stops talking, you know, stops looking at me, and they're looking at Ali.
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And I say, hey, don't come in here trying to steal my attention.
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He's like, Homer, you got on pink.
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Ain't nobody gonna steal your attention.
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Be quiet.
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When I seen you fight, Camacho Camacho for the middleweight champion of the world before the was it the Evander and Mercer fight?
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Was that?
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Yep, Evander and Mercer fight.
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What year was that?
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95.
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Oh, wow, dude.
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I remember where I was.
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I was at my brother's house, and we watched that fight, and you came out in a pink tuxedo.
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And you were known for that.
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What was that with the pink tuxedo?
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How many people have you seen fight and and they come out looking like the Godfather?
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Or Tupac.
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No Tupac, man.
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I was trying to bring in elegance to the sport because I want to be classy.
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Always boxed in pink since I turned professional.
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Usually you started off with just black shorts with a pink band.
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And then I went full pink and pink with black trim.
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Of course, like say I've had people who say, look, you you're too manly to fight in pink.
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You're gonna have to change your color.
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Slightly go to fuchsia and then red.
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Nah, that's not the way I am.
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They're like, how are you then?
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I said, not like that.
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So tell me, what was it like fighting before Vanderholyfield and fighting Hamacho Camacho?
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Man, you know, Camacho was just such a natural talent.
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He's just so amazing.
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My first pro fight was on undercard with Camacho.
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Really?
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Out in Lake Tahoe.
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And so I met him back then, never knew that one day I'm gonna fight you.
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I was just amazed at his speed.
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What people don't tell you though is the guy can hit too with speed constraint.
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He was fast and he could hit with good shots and he was powerful.
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Uh Vinny Pazienza, who fought Camacho, was cheering me on the whole time, telling me, Homer, break him down, Homer, break him down.
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He don't like Camacho, but uh Vinny Paz, he uh good guy.
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I like I love Vinny, he's a great guy.
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Camacho, which is out of box.
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Camacho's fast, he hits you, and then when you go to throw back, he's behind you.
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Oh, wow.
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I don't think you got knocked down in that fight at all, dude.
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In the very first round, just being starstruck, my feet crossed in the back.
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When they crossed, he threw a left hand hit.
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I stumbled back.
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Oh, look at Camacho showing his strength.
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Y'all know I was off balance.
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Yeah, y'all know I was off balance.
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You had some other controversial fights with uh what was his name, man, that you when you fought for the world championship a few times.
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Name is the Chad.
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Chad bad Chad Brusov.
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Chad Chad Brushaw.
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I think he won all three fights.
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I f I felt I did.
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But uh, you know, I I don't take anything from Chad.
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Great fighter.
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Yeah, I will tell you something about Chad.
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I I respect greatly.
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The first fight we had, they gave him decision.
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All he had to do was say, Oh, yeah, I won the fight.
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But no, he wanted to fight me again to prove to people that he won a fight.
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Of course, it didn't work for him.
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How'd that work out for him, Homer?
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Got him in the fourth round.
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I love to do that.
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We talk every now and then.
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I'm friends with a lot of guys that I fought.
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It's so funny because just recently I got in touch with a guy named Darren McGrew.
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My first eight-round fight.
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Me and him were training with Pernel up in Virginia Beach, and he took care of me.
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He was trying to treat me like he's my father.
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I was up there in the gym, and we got back in town, and then like a few fights later, all of a sudden they said, We want you to start fighting eight rounds.
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And they said, We're gonna let you fight Darren McGrew.
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I said, Oh, Darren McGrew is a guy that I was training with up in Virginia, and they said, Yeah.
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But then Darren said, Well, just like father's gotta do to a son, I'm gonna spank you.
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I said, Well, we're gonna see about that.
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How many people told you they're gonna spank you and then you just end up tearing them apart?
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Are we talking about women?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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I'm not getting involved with that, man.
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I ain't ended up on Joe Brown, you know what I'm saying?
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And you were on Joe Brown, man.
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I took the I I took the IBU uh on Joe Joe Joe.
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Well, a friend of mine, after I beat Chad Broussard, and I won the title.
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The next morning when I woke up, newspaper had it in the paper down Louisiana that I was being stripped of the title.
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What?
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Being stripped of the title after you whooped his butt in the fourth round and knocked him out.
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And what was that about?
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Did they have to watch Joe Brown to figure out the rest?
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Or well, I mean, you can see the fight a little bit on the on the Joe Brown show, but it was something between Don Moose Lewis and me.
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He was promoting boxing or trying to promote boxing here in Atlanta.
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They tried to sign me to a contract, yeah.
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And I signed the contract thinking that we were gonna be fighting, but they never put in fights.
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They just called me up and said, hey, meet us over here at the strip club.
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I'm like, Well, what are we doing at a strip club?
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Who am I fighting?
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You're fighting a Nikki coming up on the main stage.
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I was like, yeah.
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And my wife is, you know, she doesn't want me being that person.
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She was upset about them wanting me always going to the bar.
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So I told him I said, dude, if we're not doing boxing, I'm just gonna move on with my career.
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And I did.
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So he was saying that he had money spent.
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Like, where are you gonna spend money at?
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At the strip club?
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Well, they could find this on YouTube, just punch it.
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Homer, Lee Gibbons, Judge O'Brien.
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I think they have it like four parts or three parts.
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Yeah.
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So definitely check that out.
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And of course, we can find all your fights on YouTube, correct?
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Not all of them.
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For a long time, they were only the ones I lost.
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Did you get in touch with YouTube and say, hey man, put some of that stuff up that's where I'm winning?
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One of my friends, Anthony, he started putting some fights on there for me.
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He's like, he goes, You gotta promote yourself.
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I'm like, yeah I don't I don't know about all that stuff.
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He goes, No, I know that's what I'm trying to tell you.
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He's you gotta promote yourself.
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I'm like let me do a little bit of bragging on you, man.
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You I actually got a card from you earlier, and it's made by K Fab cardboard.
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I'm just looking at some of these stats on here.
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Having 226 wins as an amateur fighter and winning 27 state championships, 14 golden glove titles, and an impressive different award.
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Gibbons turned professional in 1990 with the guidance of a Vander Holyfield.
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What was it like working with a Vander?
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I've known him since I was six years old and came into boxing altogether.
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He used to fight a guy named Antonio Arnold that was on my team.
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We were from Jesse Draper Boys Club, and they were from War Memorial.
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So we knew one another.
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And then in 1980, when we moved to Riverdale, I started fighting under Carter Morgan.
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And Carter Morgan, they were the ones that had Evander.
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So Evander was on their team.
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So he was then we were on, we were teammates.
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And it wasn't about four years later he was going to the Olympics.
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Okay.
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And that's where he fought Mike Tyson, correct?
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They sparred together.
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Oh, okay.
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Tyson was heavyweight.
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Evander was light heavyweight.
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And of course, we all know what happened when they met up in what was it, 96, 97?
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Yep.
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Of course, we ain't gonna go into all that, man.
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I ain't got the ear for it.
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Neither does Evander.
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God, that was such a lame joke.
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Now I'm back in Atlanta.
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We're now hanging a lot, man.
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We're gonna go see Firing Stone.
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You're gonna take me to go see him wrestle.
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I met him over here in McDonough.
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He was training over there at Hard Knox Gym over here in McDonough.
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Me and him got to know each other then.
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It's funny because in in the fight circle, you you kind of know people or you see faces and you know faces, but you don't know where you know them from.
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But I was like, oh, I know this dude.
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And then next thing you know, I went to a wrestling match, right?
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I'm like, oh dude, I know this dude, dude.
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I thought he was the bass player for this A's band.
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He's like, nah, dude, this is a bad dude.
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I was like, you could have told me before I got there I was about to meet this guy and put my foot in my mouth.
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And right from the beginning, you just did that laugh over there that night.
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You're like, yeah, go ahead and stick that foot in your mouth.
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Well, I've got Brandon here that's helping me co-host this episode.
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And uh, because you know I love, I mean, you know all about me being out in Nashville and everything.
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I love to see people at least open that door for a connection to help their dreams come true.
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And he has dreams of being in the UFC.
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We talked about it in our opening break and everything.
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But Brandon, do you got any questions for Homer today?
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I do got one question for the champ.
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Have you ever uh gotten to with a uh UFC fighter?
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Okay, story.
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Oh Lord.
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When I was training at Hard Knocks, it's now independent MMA, they had a bunch of MMA guys in there and they had a bunch of boxers.
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I was working with a guy and I was helping him work on his up game, standing up fight, boxing, which is what I do.
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He said, Hey, would you mind helping me?
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I said, No, I don't mind at all.
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So I've been doing this since I was six years old.
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So you're not gonna come in the rain, never boxed before, and how box me.
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Not even chance.
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But all his friends and stuff were watching outside the rain, watching him in the rain with me, and they're like, man, he's killing you.
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He's beating you to death.
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So then all of a sudden they said they start saying stuff like, I wonder what would have happened if you did what you do and he does what he does, and who would win?
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And so then he's like, hey dude, why don't we get in the rain like you do what you do and I do it?
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What did you mean?
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You do what you do.
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I say, You mean you want to kick me?
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No, I'm not really into that.
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So finally he said, like two or three weeks, man.
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Just every time we be in the gym twice a week, every time I go there, he's like, just one time.
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I was like, dude, I don't want to get kicked.
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I don't even watch your legs.
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So finally he said, just I'm gonna tell you what, just one round, one round.
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I was like, all right, fine, okay, one round.
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The bell rang.
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I ran across rings.
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I hit that dude so many times.
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Man, I'm gonna tell you what.
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He's like, dude, I ain't never seen this side of you before.
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I said, Yeah, you ain't never seen me get kicked either.
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It ain't gonna be today.
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I definitely appreciate you taking the time and stopping by today.
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Hey, would you take a look at some of this film that Brandon has and maybe let him do like a 30-second minute of shadow boxing and see if he's got potential?
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And we'll catch up with you in a couple of weeks and see what you thought.
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Oh, yeah, most definitely.
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Well, it's always a pleasure.
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We're gonna be hanging a lot.
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Y'all better get used to the name Homer Lee Gibbons because I'm back in Georgia and we're hanging, and we are going to be doing a lot of these podcasts.
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So there's so much to cover with you, and you got to help me get Byron on.
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I would love to have him on the show.
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And it's always a great hang, man, champ.
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And don't forget to come see me down here at Hacienda in South Point in McTonna, Georgia.
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We are the home of the world's best margarita, and we'd love to see you.
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I can't say a good old margarita, huh?
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We all know that Homer don't drink.
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Man, but that was a great impression.
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Great impression.
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Man, y'all stick around.
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We're gonna have a lot more coming up here on the Dees Banter.
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Thanks for calling the Dees Banter Podcast.
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This is Daryl D.
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White.
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Who do we got on the phone tonight?
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Uh, this is Tigger.
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What's up?
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What's up, Tigger?
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How you doing, buddy?
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Good, man.
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How are you?
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Good, man.
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It's been a few weeks, man.
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I met you at Hacienda.
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That's a new place that I'm working at now.
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Yeah, I was there with my family, visiting some of my cousins that I haven't seen in a while.
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Kind of the only family I really have left nowadays.
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So, yeah, just meeting up with them.
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Kind of a halfway point for a few of us.
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And thank God they were a little late, man, because if not, we probably would not have had the conversation we had.
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But it's hard to find somebody that intrigues me, man.
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I'm a big history buff when it comes to music and bars and different stuff like that.
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I'm addicted to it.
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And you had me at you started telling me what happened with Cowboys that was in Kinnesaw and everything.
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Is that what did happen with Cowboys?
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It got torn down, I'm afraid.
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Seems like all the good was due.
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Yeah, they built some like little apartment condo things, whatever you call them, basically where the property was.
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But the exact location of the specific building the Cowboys was in is pretty much just a little grassy field now, like next to where they built.
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So they didn't even build directly where that part of the building was.
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So it's kind of just like a slap in the face, like, hey, we tore it down and didn't even build anything right here.
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So it sucks.
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Well, I I haven't really had a lot of time to get out and about in Atlanta.
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Is there anything like cowboys or like the buckboard or anything like that that's still around here in Georgia?
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Oh, buckboard had some good times in there too.
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No, not really that I know of.
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That's kind of my thing, man.
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I was a big line dancer for a long time, and so you kind of have to go on road trips now to get to find anywhere good.
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Used to be able to go to Chattanooga.
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They had uh a cool bar there.
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Actually, where cowboys was here by me, it got bought out at a certain point and it changed and became Electric Cowboy.
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And it was it used to be an electric cowboy in Chattanooga, but it unfortunately closed out before it was here.
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So we go up there on the weekends sometimes too to hang out, you know, make a little road trip of there, or of course you got Cotton Eye Joe's in Knoxville, and then I've been to Coyote Joe's, which is in Charlotte, and it's really cool too.
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It's got a really like you walk in the door and it's like nostalgia hits you in the face.
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Wow, man.
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But I mean these clubs that we were talking about, I mean, the Cowboys, this place was huge, man.
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You know, back in the days they were packed.
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Is it because you think that the lease ran out, or do you think that uh people just were not packing the place out like they used to?
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I think they had a a dwindling of just the customer base in there, honestly, I think was part of it.
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I don't know all the politics of it per se there at the end.
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I was in really good with some of the original people that used to be there like years ago.
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Well, I mean, I remember going there with my mom when I was a little kid, going to that shopping center and it being like a Kmart and a Win Dixie and like a little mom and pop's video store, as I was telling you the other day when I met you, like right in between them.
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Like I remember when that was a thing, and then you know, after the fact, like it became a club called Crystal Chandelier, which then kind of morphed and evolved into Cowboys, which eventually morphed and evolved into Electric Cowboy.
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Oh, yeah.
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The last time I was at Cowboys was a friend of mine, God rest his soul, Joey Floyd.
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He was running sound for Wade Hayes, and it was his last gig with Wade Hayes before he went to play with he became a utility player for Toby.
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He was also the little boy in Honey's Uncle Rose with Willie Nelson.
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But I remember he gave me these backstage passes, which at Cowboys that means that he was in the storage room.
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Basically, yeah.
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I took a buddy with me, and I told him, man, I was like, dude, I know there's not much back here, but trying to explain to him how these bigger artists run things is that do not bring anybody back here.
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And I'll be damned if it wasn't like 20 minutes later, I see these two girls walking through with his pass.
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I got grilled out.
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But moving on, man, is that another thing that intrigues me about you was that not only the line dancing and the history that you knew about some of my favorite places, you're kind of like a movie star, man, in sort of a sense, if I'm correct.
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I mean uh my little, I guess 15 minutes, so to speak.
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I wouldn't go full blown movie star yet.
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I mean, you know, that's one of the goals someday, you know.
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But I was an extra, like in the background of the remake of Footloose, so that was pretty cool.
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I did a few scenes in that, and they haven't actually had an open casting call at Cowboys to do that, actually.
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So some of my friends actually are kind of in there with me, and then I got picked to be in one of the more forefront scenes when they're inside of the bar.
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And then like I'm in one of the church scenes too that they were filming with Dennis Quaid like preaching and stuff.
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And then I had my brief stint on a reboot of the old dating show Love Connection.
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Like I was on there for an episode.
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So I had a friend that was on there also, man.
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She was on Love Connection and she was on the gall show.
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But yeah, man, how'd your experience go?
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Did were you the person that was picking or the one of the ones that were getting picked?
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You know, there I wanted to be one of the ones that was like going on three dates and picking, but I actually ended up being one of the three guys that the girl went on a date with and then she got a pick.
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Alright, did she pick you?
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From all the politics and everything I heard kind of behind the scenes with everything and the fact that like my friend went with me to the studio when we actually filmed the day of and sat next to her he sat next to her friend.
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You know, and then of course he informed me he's like, dude, she's like a millionaire and like her friend told me that she was going to pick you but she didn't like your beard and when I first talked to them I had my beard and I was going to cut it but they were like no you can't cut it you got to keep the beard we don't have too many contestants that have beards that's kinda kinda adds the layer to the show or whatever, so to speak.
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So like they made me keep it and then she didn't like it.
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So well at least you didn't turn out to be a serial killer.
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Do you you know there was a guy what I forget what serial killer it was, but one of them dating shows, I think it it wasn't Love Connect, I think it was the dating game or whatever.
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I know what you're talking about.
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I've actually seen that I I know what you're talking about.
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Yep.
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Pretty wild.
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At least you escape without being a serial killer so I call that a successful friend.
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I don't know too much about it but I know when I was a little kid like one of my hairdressers turned out to be like it was had some kind of thing where they killed somebody or something.
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Like I was pretty young I just remember being told about it.
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It's kind of a similar situation which is kind of wild to think about you knew a serial killer?
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I don't remember what the whole detail I don't think serial killer.
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I think she like killed somebody I don't think she was a serial killer.
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But a murderer yeah like nonetheless yeah man my neighbor that I grew up with he murdered somebody down here at this motel.
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Wow were y'all close I was more closer with his brother and everything but I knew these I mean he was probably six seven years younger than me but I knew his whole family again they were next door I watched him grow up yeah I think it was the drugs that got to him man because he you know some people can't handle it man when he was off drugs he was I mean a ladies man he was a smart kid but he get on them drugs man and he turned into a different person.
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I'm not gonna lie D this world's tough man like it's really tough.
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You'd really you gotta be a strong man or woman to really survive this world especially nowadays man.
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I'm pretty strong willed so I got a good head on my shoulders and don't do dumb stuff but I understand why people do though.
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If you're the least bit not strong or can be weak minded or get easily influenced or whatever or somebody just beats you down and beats you down and beats you down like life does man, it's easy to turn to the dark side and whatever.
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I get it, dude.
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I'm not condoning it but I understand it.
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Turn to the dark side is they get sucked into it, bro.
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That's what happened to me years ago is that you get close enough to it it would suck you and it was not necessarily the drugs that got me to quit.
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It was that the people that you had to deal with to get the drugs or that was hanging around while you did them.
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I get it.
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And I don't know how the hell that I ever got sold on that man because if you look at anybody that's on some of their major drugs man it's like dude that is not a salesperson that should be able to sell this so easily.
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No, it's really not it's like in the beginning you start certain things and I get the allure of like oh it's gonna make me feel like this or it's just gonna give me energy or it's gonna make me feel good or it's gonna enhance something or whatever.
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But then it's like you said that's a good point.
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If you look at somebody that's really hardcore been doing it like that's not a good sales pitch to do it because you you see those long term effects and it's like yeah I'm good.
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What they they're good at though man is that they will clean the shit out of your house.
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That's funny and do it for cheap.
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Right I mean they'd be like man I cleaned your whole house for a dollar fifty this is not a made up story man is that one day you know I take Ubers a lot I was actually coming home one night from work and I called an Uber.
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This girl picked me up and as we were getting closer to the house she looks back at me and she says do you mind if I stop at this store and pick up some Coke and a Pepsi and I was like no not a problem and I watched her walk into the store and she walked out with a Pepsi and then walked over to a car and bought some cocaine I wasn't even thinking about that man but you know I couldn't get mad at her because I did give her permission but it was all in the wording it was like do you mind if we stop and I get some Coke and some Pepsi and I'm like Hey you know at least she was nice enough to ask first.
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She even offered me some but I was like nah I'm good man.
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I'm good a pretty good friend of mine that like he's actually good now I think for the most part and he's kind of got a wife and has a biological son and then he has some stepchildren and kind of training himself out man but it's like he's getting to these moments before like meeting her and going down that road and all that man where he just was doing stuff and I'm like man I'm still your friend but I was like I can't go down this road with you bro and I'm trying to remember back man to because I mean we covered a lot that night I was working and you were trying to you know hang out with your family you drove all the way down from Kinnesaw.
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Aren't you a musician yourself?
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:34.160
No I am not I would love to be but just not like I'd like to be a singer that's what we talked about like I like doing karaoke and stuff but I would love to be a singer and I would I'd like to try and learn guitar again too I tried when I was a teenager and I instructor which is not a very good instructor he sat there and played he never really showed me how to do anything.
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We just sit there and play like you're gonna teach me bro last thing I want to ask you man because you saw me at the very end of our conversation when I first met you is that and it's in my phone.
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How did you get the name Tigger?
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:56.079
You know I've had that name for probably over half my life now and I don't even 100% remember how it came about.
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Like I would almost say jokingly maybe I just gave myself a nickname but I don't even remember man.
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And then of course it kind of took on a life of its own because some people would you know of course want to joke around be like oh Tigger because he bounces from girl to girl and I'm like no that's not why I'm tigger but it's filled with funny want to joke around about I can appreciate the joke.
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I mean that or or people that listen to the first part of our podcast might be because you hang out with a lot of people that are poop.
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There you go that's a good one.
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That's a good all right you have a blessed evening and we'll talk to you soon and again buddy you call it anytime I'm herewise God bless you banner Yeah pull up the mic pull up the grant these bands back and we're all in a quick little jab to the left hook left room gets loud on the first ball crash snap back snap back snap back to the afternoon
