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Speaker 1: The paper of the Star and a lot of other folks. Did you hear this mysterious up kidnapping of NBC Uh Today's show anchor Savannah Guthrie, We have our mom.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, her mom. Uh. They just I mean just now released. See that picture?
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, oh yeah, that's the.
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Speaker 2: Person, well a person of interest of interest.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but he's completely covered.
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Speaker 4: And but here's the thing that I just thought under sand with people who are really really smart call themselves taking down the security systems, do.
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Speaker 2: You not know that.
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Speaker 1: You can give picked you as you approach the system. And there's another image with him holding his hand up him.
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Speaker 2: I guess it's a him.
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Speaker 3: That's a good good point, you know, it might be would be.
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Speaker 2: Could be a she. I don't know. It looks like a male.
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Speaker 1: But this is interesting in that why didn't they put this out the first day? They had to have had it, yeah, or at least a second day, you would.
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Speaker 5: Think, and you mentioned you wondered, I think last week, how much is she worth? Is she is it an amount of money that she's worth or is there some connection?
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 1: A friend of mine called and asked that very question, and he looked up Savannah Guthrie's networth worth, her net worth eight million dollars. They were asking for six million by five o'clock yesterday.
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Speaker 3: They didn't get that, or they haven't heard.
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Speaker 2: Didn't because they don't have her.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, And I don't know. I don't know what her mother's networth is or was. Yeah, she apparently lived in a million dollar home in this community where a lot of the homes are dollars or.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah they are, But.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just I'm just trying to figure out.
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Speaker 3: The it's just very odd, weird. It's just how do you.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing was that I heard yesterday morning.
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Speaker 2: I didn't. We didn't get to it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: But they you know, some of the analysts were saying on one of the early morning shows, this is an early early morning show that the note from the kidnappers said six million dollars usd uh, and so that led them or that would tend to make you think that whoever wrote the note is not is it's an internationals to tag two dollars? You know, people that live or in this country community, you know, we want six million dollars.
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Speaker 2: We don't say you is SD do't that's true, and so they.
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Speaker 1: Seem to think that that might be a clue or some insight into who may have done that, just because they probably another clue that they didn't realize they were dropping, just like you don't realize that you're you will be recorded as you walk up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And you know they take down these the lights, now I don't some of that what was it some of the floodlights were taken down, I guess I think so, and that enhances video, you know, visibility as well. So, but yeah, this is this is just breaking. I mean, not more than three minutes ago did the authorities release this this picture. Now, this person Eric is fully masked.
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Speaker 3: Fully you can't see only gloves, gloves.
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Speaker 2: Fully closed.
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Speaker 1: It looks like jeans and a backpack or something strapped.
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Speaker 2: Something as strapped.
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Speaker 1: We couldn't see what it was, but there's two straps, one on each shoulder, so you would have zon mm hmm, maybe a backpack.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I'm just thinking disconnecting the alarm system. That would have to be well, I don't know. Maybe they had access to the garage. I'm not in the end of theirs and.
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Speaker 3: The the whole story, didn't they say?
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Speaker 5: Initially she was at dinner with her other daughter and son in law and they dropped. Now me, I'm the kind of person if I were dropping my mom off, I'm going to walk her to the door into the house.
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Speaker 3: That's just how That's how I am.
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Speaker 1: Especially if her mobility was compromised exactly as they said that she she couldn't get around really well, so they would just drop her off something.
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Speaker 5: Now for me, I'd be, we'll be I'll be right back to somebody if you wait, and the car will be back.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't let her walk on alone.
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Speaker 5: And then I'd be checking the house out of habit alarm system or not, security system or not.
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Speaker 2: I should say, yeah, well, security alarm, I'm.
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Speaker 5: Going to check the house, make sure everything's secure. And it seems they just let her out and rob off.
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Speaker 3: Maybe in a habit maybe maybe.
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Speaker 5: And there sometimes can be a I think, a false sense of security in certain places. Those things they never happen here, but that happens only in this city, that.
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Speaker 2: Only other place.
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Speaker 3: Other places.
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Speaker 1: If there is one piece of sound that just drives me absolutely up a while down and back up the wall, it is I never thought anything like that would happen here, that nothing like that ever happens here. There ever happens, It can happen anywhere anywhere.
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Speaker 2: There we go.
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Speaker 3: There it is full of gloves. There's another shot.
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Speaker 2: You can see what's that in his hand? Looks like.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't tell. Those look like almost like boxing gloves.
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Speaker 1: They do, don't they Well it might be the way he's hold Well, wow, we're we're just describing this as we're seeing it, right.
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Speaker 3: So you could see the eyes, that's all you can see.
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Speaker 1: That just the coction of the eyes, And that was intentional to so that there would be no identifying features. But you know what, I think that there's some FBI equipment that is so well so advanced that hey we got the eyes.
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Speaker 3: Yea, the eyes were able to go from there? I would bomb sure they are.
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Speaker 5: What was the show I used to watch all the time c S I, the whole series, They had all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure we have.
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Speaker 2: It now, Yeah, Yeah, I'm sure we do. Yeah. I mean, why would they wait so long?
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Speaker 5: That's a good question, unless I don't know, they thought it was crowdsourcing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they.
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Speaker 5: Thought it was key evidence and they didn't want to release it yet, they didn't want to spoil things, mess up things. But I hope, I hope they find her alive. I hope that that's the outcome and get to the source of this.
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Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing is, are we to conclude that there was only one person involved?
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Speaker 8: Now?
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Speaker 3: Good question?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that what we should conclude that? And was this person coming into the house or leaving?
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Speaker 9: Now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would assume they were going in because they were the pictures that we got.
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Speaker 2: They were trying to disarm mm hmm, the alarm. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: That's well, that's just there.
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Speaker 1: One of those you know mysteries. It is and wow, and the longer it goes on, the less.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing, the longer it goes on. And she's on medication, yes.
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Speaker 1: And has but you know, that was another point that somebody made that I hadn't been paying attention to. Apparently she has a pacemaker. Yes, that's what some of those have track.
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Speaker 5: I mean I thought so, well, I think it was her her her watch. There was a connection to that, and I think her watching well that was left behind.
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Speaker 2: I think somebody knew her then, they knew her.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like it.
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Speaker 1: They even though something that a detail that that minute that your pacemaker is attached to your.
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Speaker 3: There was some connection.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so not looking good.
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Speaker 1: No, so somebody that knew about the pacemaker and the watch and the locator services on that.
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Speaker 3: It's a lot of detail.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the pain.
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Speaker 3: You know, the exactly.
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Speaker 5: But you also would think too, I don't know how the neighborhood out there. Obviously it's it's vast, I would imagine, so neighbors are probably not right next door, but I would imagine they have cameras. Neighbors had to have security cameras of a vehicle coming into the neighborhood that might be unusual that they've not seen before. Maybe that's on footage somewhere of the person who of interest.
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Speaker 2: Unless it's the usual vehicle.
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Speaker 3: That's true too, it be usual. Look at us, Yeah, right.
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Speaker 1: Here find out I just you know, we haven't mentioned it much, and it's it just it's worrisome for me, I just because when things don't make sense, there's.
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Speaker 2: Usually a reason for that.
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Speaker 3: That's true, usually a reason.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, but that's the latest that just came out moments ago, and I don't know if anybody here in Indianapolis might be able to take a look and help out. But at least at least you'll get an idea.
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Speaker 3: And see find out hopefully what's going on.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, today is indeed Tuesday, February tenth, three one seven, four eight zero is the number to the show.
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Speaker 2: Again. The warm weather is the big story right now. Maybe not the big story, it's one of them. It's warmer.
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Speaker 3: It's warmer.
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Speaker 2: That's for the first time in weeks.
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Speaker 3: Oh it's I think it's fifty two right now, is it? According to the National Weather Service and Sonny. So there's gonna be a lot of melting.
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Speaker 2: You need to get one of those one of those car washed things.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you can drive through as much as you.
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Speaker 2: Want them to be cost effective.
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Speaker 5: I do, especially as much as I drive, and the dirt and sometimes if it's not the dirt, it's the droppings from there our friends flying over, and I think it is you if you need to go through five times and one day you can same doesn't cost anything more.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen those those those videos on social media where people are being hauled out of all you can do places because they're camping out and they're they're standing on this is supposed to be all you can eat, and that's what you said, so you I can see some legal challenges. Oh I'm to something like that, but I've been to all you can eat buffets that had restrictions.
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Speaker 3: I have to you can't take anything home.
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Speaker 2: You can't take anything home.
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Speaker 3: You have to have it right there, and then you.
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Speaker 1: Have to in order to get there. Was it was one that was all you could eat seafood and sushi buffet, and they had it locked down pretty tightly because you had to get a certain dish I think, and then after that you could get one or two at a time.
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Speaker 3: You couldn't just couldn't go.
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Speaker 2: No, they doled it out too.
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Speaker 3: Oh they doled it out. Okay, So that's how they kept control.
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Speaker 2: That's how they controlled abortions. That's how they did it.
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Speaker 1: Phone yeah, yeah, three zero thirteen ten. On the show today, the newly appointed Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department's Chief of Police, Tanya Terry, joins us Lots to talk about there this was an historic appointment, of course, first female to lead the city's police department, probably the largest police department in the state of Indiana.
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Speaker 3: I would think, Oh, I'm certain.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, she's got a lot of responsibility. Anyway, she's going to be in our second hour, so we're looking forward to speaking with her about that. You know a lot of times people that make history like that, they don't necessarily want to.
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Speaker 2: Talk about the history. I want to just get to the job.
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Speaker 1: And then again, as we said before, she hadn't been three days.
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Speaker 2: Into the job, and here's something, here comes something, so they I guess they're working on that as well. Anyway.
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Speaker 1: Also, as you know, February is Black History Month. So here's some black history on this date, February tenth.
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Speaker 2: Back in nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 1: Six, President Gerald Ford Gerald R. Ford issued a message recognizing Black History Month, becoming the first president to do so. I did not know that. Yeah, February tenth, nineteen seventy six, President Gerald R. Ford issued a message recognizing Black History Month, and he became the first president to recognize it. Now, Reagan signed it into law. But for yeah, wow, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm sure it was Reagan.
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Speaker 5: I did, yeah, because he would have been yeah harder than Reagan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Reagan. And I was always surprised about.
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Speaker 3: Reagan Reagan doing that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was Reagan probably would have been the consensus.
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Speaker 2: I wonder what.
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Speaker 3: That signing it into law. Run, Well, that's.
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Speaker 5: Something that would have been was that Would he have done that in nineteen eighty Reagan eighty five or four?
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Speaker 3: Somewhere in there.
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Speaker 2: November two, nineteen eighty three, you were good close, I was close.
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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan signed HR. Thirty seven oh six into law establishing the third Monday in January as a federal holiday in honor of doctor Martin Luther King Junior. The bill which created the first federal holiday for a black American was signed in the White House, Rose Garden. Well that's gone and first observed in nineteen eighty six. So he signed it in eighty three and they we started observing it in eighty.
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Speaker 3: Six, eighty six.
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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But Black History Month was recognized, and I remember King's birthday was always recognized. Even when I was growing up, it was recognized, it just was never formal in formally.
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Speaker 2: So well, good for him, Good for Ronald Reagan. That's the one thing I'll always remember Reagan for.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's the great communicator, is what they say. Yeah, So Anyway, the moment, as they say, was decades in the making. As we shared earlier, nineteen twenty six, historian, author, and activist doctor Carter G.
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Speaker 2: Woodson introduced Negro History Week.
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Speaker 1: Woodson, who had founded the Association for the Study of Negro Life and History now the Association for the Study of African American Life and History ten years earlier, chose the month of February to honor the birthdays of two prominent abolitionists. They are Frederick Douglas and Abraham Lincoln, whose birthdays were in.
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Speaker 2: The month of Fibrty.
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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, anyway, holiday national recognition in the sixties when activists in the Civil rights movement brought the Negro History Week to college campuses across the country. Now, also on this date in black history, February tenth, the United States House of Representatives passed the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. They passed it after a seventy two day filibuster.
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Speaker 2: Wow wow, yeah, you.
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Speaker 5: Think about it, Tina, that's not been that long ago. No, that's not been one hundred years.
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Speaker 3: Ago, barely sixty years ago. That's not that long.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The bill the House passed it after seventy two day philibuster. The bill later passed the US Senate on June nineteenth, nineteen sixty four, So February tenth, the House got it after a seventy two day philibuster, passed it several couple of months later. The Senate passed it on June nineteenth, the final vote two ninety to one thirty in the House and seventy three to twenty seven in the Senate. The Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on July second, nineteen sixty four. Wow, so the ball got rolling on this day in history in nineteen sixty four. It started rolling in the right direction because the House passed it after it wasn't easy.
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Speaker 2: Seventy two day filibuster.
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Speaker 3: That's seventy two days.
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Speaker 1: Seventy two day, thirty sixty that's more than two months.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seventy two day filibuster.
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Speaker 1: And as we were discussing yesterday, for those who do not know or may be confused, the Civil Rights Bill of nineteen sixty four was a bill making it illegal to discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, and prohibiting segregation in public places and prohibiting employment discrimination. Nowhere in there does it say we're gonna pick on white people.
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Speaker 3: That I can say nowhere, I don't let me look at it again.
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Speaker 5: Look at that again. I'm going to adjust my glasses or make sure I don't see that.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not there.
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Speaker 2: Don't y'all fall for that.
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Speaker 3: No, not in there anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little bit of black.
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Speaker 1: History there, nineteen sixty four, nineteen sixty four. So but yeah, February tenth was the date to get the get this thing going.
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Speaker 2: Finally. And you know it's when you look at the vote.
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Speaker 1: Bipartisan activity in both the House and Senate is possible.
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Speaker 3: It is. It happened there, Yeah, so it could happen again.
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Speaker 2: It can happen again, so it certainly could happen there.
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Speaker 3: We go.
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Speaker 1: So there is our Black History Month moment. Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.
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Speaker 2: Again.
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Speaker 1: Three one seven, four eight, zero thirteen ten is the number to the show. As I was saying, as we were just a few moments ago before we found and looked at that breaking news, pothole season in Indianapolis is in full swing for early We're still early twenty twenty six. Now this is from the Department of Public Works. Over nine thousand potholes have been filled since January first, and where what February tenth?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nine thousand thousand.
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Speaker 2: Can you believe that?
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Speaker 3: I can really, I can't believe, well, you mean filled. I'll put it this way. I can believe they're nine thousand.
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Speaker 2: I believe they're ninety.
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Speaker 3: And that's just to get to night. I believe the ninety.
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Speaker 5: I think I said yesterday we could probably call Indianapolis the Pothole.
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Speaker 3: King because there was a year was it last year? Year before?
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Speaker 5: Was it the New York Times or New York Post We made a cover story where it's at Indianapolis had the worst streets in the country or something like that. Some station potholes were just you know, everywhere, which.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was true.
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Speaker 1: Nine thousand, nine thousand since January one, And it says due to intense freestyle cycles. I don't know how much thawing there was, but not much lawing, not much thawing at all.
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Speaker 2: But today you said it's fifty two.
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Speaker 3: That's what it says right here from the Weather Service that's at the airport. Let me, let me adjust it again. Here, let's say, yeah, fifty two, fifty two.
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Speaker 5: And sunny, a few clouds, and this will be the warmest day of the week.
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Speaker 2: It looks like okay, that's good.
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Speaker 1: It also says heavy wet weather accelerates road damage prohibiting or prompting, rather prompting, which means making, for instance, a twenty twenty five surge of sixty four thousand plus repairs by early March.
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Speaker 2: So it looks like we're going to be over that.
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Speaker 1: I think so, so between January one and and early March in sixty I mean in twenty twenty five, sixty four.
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Speaker 3: Thousand, sixty four thousand.
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Speaker 2: Sixty four thousand early March.
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Speaker 1: Residents can report potholes at the Request Indie website or the Mayor's Action Center. Now Here are some of the key details. Here's some of the guidance that they are offering report early. Major roads are prioritized, while neighborhoods may experience longer waits, making prompt reporting essential for repairs, which often take one to two weeks.
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Speaker 2: So are they.
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Speaker 1: Saying, I guess they're saying the insidant you see it, get online or get on the phone and calling.
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Speaker 3: Probably so I would think so. But I'm sure you've noticed too.
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Speaker 5: There seems like there are some areas that get attention much.
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Speaker 3: Sooner than others.
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Speaker 2: James says that I've noticed that.
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Speaker 3: It's like, why that area not this year?
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Speaker 5: Certain roads that are for me that surprise me, that really needed attention, Kessler.
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Speaker 3: In certain places, it's like you're driving along all of a.
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Speaker 5: Sudden, there's a massive pothole between Meridian and Michigan Road. Sometimes some pretty big potholes. I've seen through there, and it's like, and I'm saying, because that's a road that used to always be so smooth, you know, no potholes.
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Speaker 1: I think Meridian thirty a Street north is better taken care of than Meridian thirty a Street south.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, heading south, yeah, heading north, you're going.
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Speaker 3: North, Yeah, you're.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you got to It's.
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Speaker 3: It's better taking me, I think so.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the state Governor's residence is right there, not too but a few blocks from thirty eighth Street. So reporter early request dot Indy, let me see make sure I want to get it correct.
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Speaker 3: I have, I had I had it in my hand.
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Speaker 1: I had it in my hand too, because I don't want to give out improper websites.
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Speaker 5: Just the roads are they need to and if there were on them, that's great, that is good.
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Speaker 3: I've seen some We've seen somebody.
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Speaker 1: I've not seen a single road for working on. The only crews I've seen have been working on snow removal and pushing snow aside.
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Speaker 2: I have not seen. I have not seen any road crews repairing, repairing potholes. Just haven't. I'm sure they're out there.
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Speaker 1: If they've done nine thousand since January one, then okay, they've done nine thousand since January one, I don't doubt that, but that means there's probably.
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Speaker 2: If they did sixty.
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Speaker 1: Some thousand, sixty four thousand between January and March of last year, and this year is expected to exceed that nine thousand, yeah, that's it's not a whole whole lot, then, I guess.
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Speaker 2: And then again maybe it is.
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Speaker 9: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Seems to me there could be a solution. I think in Germany other parts of the world, they take old tires, shred them up, mix it into the asphalt, and supposedly that makes it more off.
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Speaker 3: The right word is appliable, but it lasts longer. Really it lasts longer.
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Speaker 5: You don't find yourself with the situation we have, I don't know if that would work here. Someone suggested now a long time ago, why not take old tires instead of putting him in the dump, grind him up, mix it in with the asphalt and I they still put steel belts and tires in that, but all of that could help the asphalt to hold together better.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you know, if it works for Germany. I wonder if we've ever considered it.
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Speaker 3: I've heard that that Germany does. That's a good question.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 1: We can go back to the phone lines, but before we do, let's go ahead and get our commercial break in.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do that, and then that way we won't.
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Speaker 1: Be interrupted or rush the collar. So let's go to our breakthrough one zero thirteen ten. We'll go back to the phone lines right after this, and.
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Speaker 2: We're back with community connection.
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Speaker 10: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Hot holes Uh this season, No, seriously, they're saying.
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Speaker 1: Get on them right now, get them reported right now because the thaw free cycle, the first one is, you know, now in the thaw stage, and so crews can get out there. Request dot Indy dot gov Request R e q U E S T dot Indy dot gov, or you can call the Mayor's Action Center three one seven three two seven four six two two three one seven three two seven four six.
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Speaker 2: Two two.
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Speaker 10: Here.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well let's go to the phone line because there's a there's another provision of all. This is kind of frustrating as well, Brian, go ahead, how are you?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 11: Good afternoon. So I worked to a family wake up in Detroit for the initial snow storm that all the snow is still residing on our lawns. They don't have that issue. Cincinnati doesn't seem to have that issue. Chicago, I've been up to Chicago recently as well, doesn't have this issue. But yet still we get this propaganda. All these the so called conventions and entertainment venues are bringing in, but it doesn't add up. It's like, and where does your money go? You're talking about nine dollars one of the TV stations reported, and then I'm like, that doesn't.
00:27:03
Speaker 9: That doesn't.
00:27:05
Speaker 11: And to keep gurgitating the same propaganda that up because Indiana, you get what you paid for. Everybody costs. Let's to talk about the costs of living, well, you get what you pay for. And that's what it seems to be the case, because, as you've stated before, the street line markings are diminished in addition to potholes.
00:27:31
Speaker 1: And it might be a little bit more frustrating than the potholes themselves.
00:27:34
Speaker 2: Because at night, at night, at night, those markings are non existence.
00:27:41
Speaker 11: Like driving, there are multiple If you travel out of downtown and get on sixty five northbound, the numerous amounts of so called interstate lights on sixty five going over White River are out. It's like, where's the money? He yes, I know they're in charge, but it's like, how comebodies nobody is holding them accountable because it's ridiculous, But why do I have to drive in the dark? In the dark? It doesn't that up. And they want to talk about world class city this it's like they're not even close. They're not even closer. Now they want to build the stadium, the SCCER Stadium. It's like, well, where's the other's money coming from? Has opposed the regular individuals that reside in the city. And as you say, certain certain streets seems to get fixed, seem to get fixed. I'm looking at it with my own eyes. And as they say in the old children's book The Emperor has no Clothes. I don't care Republican or Democrat, but it's way beyond, way beyond time for somebody to ask the tough questions, just like I stayd before. You're not doing anything but reshuffling the chairs on the depth of the Titanic. With regards to bop or or what's her name, she's already had her SHOT's let let's get some new impusion, new blood, because the same thing keeps happening over and over, and what do they call that?
00:29:09
Speaker 9: Insanity?
00:29:10
Speaker 11: If you expect different results with the same people, it's dumb. And one last thing I was going to say is it just doesn't make sense that people are status quo or or are good with what's going on, and then it's time to stand up. But nothing ever gets changed unless somebody stands up to these these people. I don't care. That's it, regardless of party affiliations.
00:29:44
Speaker 9: And to see that.
00:29:46
Speaker 11: I can go up and down sixty nine without a problem, all the way into Detroit, not an issue. And their weather is more severe than ours, that's true, And that there are times Chicago's the same way that they they they are out and there on it. But but they are they using a better quality substrate, uh chemical, not chemical, but uh concrete.
00:30:12
Speaker 3: It's a magic.
00:30:15
Speaker 11: And it's beyond beyond the pale with regards.
00:30:19
Speaker 5: Today, Brian, go ahead, you go, you go. I was just going to say, I I think I've said to Tina before. We are the our gas tax is the fourth highest in the nation behind uh California and Pennsylvania.
00:30:36
Speaker 3: Illinois. Then it's US and.
00:30:40
Speaker 5: We're the smallest state in the Midwest. So our roads to me should be pristine, both interstate and in the city.
00:30:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be two different I don't know about the how in DOT and.
00:30:57
Speaker 2: DPW work together.
00:30:58
Speaker 3: I don't know if they.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: Do it all any at all, and who does a better job.
00:31:04
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I'm just saying the street light issue alone, it doesn't.
00:31:10
Speaker 3: Make any sense.
00:31:10
Speaker 11: Thirty thirty eighth Street is the same way coming southbound all sixty five onto thirty eighth Street when you get when you get the White River there there are no lights on over the bridge, and it's it's like, well, who's in charge of that? And it's like why is nobody ever calling anybody out? And and everybody wants to go along, to get along and then they're talking about building like I said that this upteen million dollars soccer stadium, and it's like a no, because the trickle down economics is what's affected to me. The mindset Democrat or Republican and this they think that just because you build this, that that all of a sudden, these resources or or revenue is going to be generated. But it doesn't show me on the streets that I'm driving on. So something something's amiss. And until people wake up and realize I don't, Like I said, I don't care Democrat or Republican. If somebody can get it done, let's get it done. But as far as I can say, the world class city moniker that everybody likes to talpers like, it's not even close, not even close, not even close.
00:32:22
Speaker 2: All right, Brian, appreciate your card. Okay, all right, thank you.
00:32:26
Speaker 3: See it might be time to I don't know if this is possible. Maybe state officials, city officials.
00:32:34
Speaker 5: He gets some advice from other places, like he mentioned Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Ohio. What do you do so that you have fewer potholes in your city? What is it the mixture that you use? Because one thing that I find kind of weird. I found kind of weird. I was talking to a guy who owns a company where he does patios.
00:32:57
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question.
00:33:00
Speaker 5: Is it good to have built new Interstate out of whatever concrete or asphalt and then put salt on.
00:33:07
Speaker 3: It or chemicals on it? And where he said, no, it's.
00:33:10
Speaker 5: Not even good to build it in the winter time that it doesn't necessarily set, doesn't get really set properly.
00:33:15
Speaker 3: That's what he was saying.
00:33:17
Speaker 5: Wow, So I thought, maybe that explains why even on new pavement down here on seventy West, coming into the.
00:33:24
Speaker 3: North Split, there's a pothole or two there, and that's new.
00:33:28
Speaker 1: Well, they build your round, that's true. You know what they're they're pouring, and they're they're doing year round. But but I mean to your point.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: When it's freezing cold or below, I don't get it. I don't understand.
00:33:42
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I know Chicago doesn't have higher trade. The one thing I think I shared this with you.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: A friend of mine in Chicago was saying that they have when there's a snowstorm or whatever, which is why they don't shut down schools a lot.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: They've got a system.
00:33:56
Speaker 3: Have a system.
00:33:57
Speaker 1: Dedicated uh, dedicated stations and they know exactly how many flows go to station A station B stations and they it.
00:34:05
Speaker 2: Runs like clockwork.
00:34:07
Speaker 1: They don't they don't hire contractors or high subs.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: Or anything like that. They just, you know, they just know how to do it.
00:34:13
Speaker 3: Never understood that.
00:34:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, Like, hey, I guess if I were a mayor, I wouldn't be too proud to say I'm going to ask the mayor of Chicago or they collaborate all the time. What is it that how do you your streets are this we're having this issue with our streets?
00:34:27
Speaker 3: What do you recommend?
00:34:29
Speaker 1: You know, mayors from other cities are called to talk to different police departments of the job. Yeah, they collaborate. I think that that you know, hey, tell us more about your model. Can you come and share that with us? And perhaps that's something maybe that the council should consider because they're the ones that appropriate the funds, okay, and so if it's not adequate or it's not going to hold up, but it's going to cost more money to go back and do what you're already spent money doing, maybe it's in the best interest of the council to hear some alternatives before or they okay, the money for something that's not going to hold up.
00:35:04
Speaker 5: Alternatives certainly necessary because we get the cold weather and the temperature changes.
00:35:08
Speaker 3: Here and there and up there off the lake or Chicago.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: I mean, they really get Cleveland, they get they get that Canada.
00:35:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was it last year.
00:35:20
Speaker 1: The year before last, we drove up to My nephew was playing CFL and so we.
00:35:25
Speaker 2: Just went across the border. Uh and and well you know you're just.
00:35:29
Speaker 1: Close to Detroit and my father didn't want to fly, so we all got in a van and drove. But anyway, Canada as cold as it is, Canadian air, you know, they always talk about that cold Canadian air, this snow and everything. They move up this season dates for football, and football is an outdoor sport. They even have those dates strategically placed so that they don't run into the severe extreme winter.
00:35:56
Speaker 3: Wow.
00:35:56
Speaker 1: And what I say this to explain that as we were dry being on the highways Christine beautiful, h h beautiful. Yeah, and I'm like all the snow and the Canadian air and all the stuff that, Yeah, no signs I did.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: We did not hit a single pot none.
00:36:17
Speaker 5: I've been to Canada a few times in Montreal through their same thing.
00:36:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were in Toronto, Toronto, Christine.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: Christine, beautiful, beautiful streets, all of it.
00:36:30
Speaker 3: It's just just just is maybe something to look into. Yeah, yeah they should.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: Yeah in the three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.
00:36:46
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phone lines that Jeff, go ahead, how are you.
00:36:50
Speaker 9: Hey, Jana, Eric, how you guys doing?
00:36:52
Speaker 2: Thank you well?
00:36:54
Speaker 9: Good? And I talked to you. I mentioned it to Eric. I ran into a monster pothole. Oh about the airport.
00:37:04
Speaker 2: Wait on the way to the airport. Was it on on seventy.
00:37:08
Speaker 5: Right John on Minnesota on Minnesot Street, on Minnesota Street, Minnesota.
00:37:14
Speaker 9: And I have a little side, Yeah, I have a little side hustle where I do a lot of transporttaging materials.
00:37:20
Speaker 8: And man, tell you what the airport airport is, you know, the last caller a lot of ballotport.
00:37:30
Speaker 9: You know, we got the lottery here.
00:37:31
Speaker 12: There's some of that money supposed to go back to to go back to the school we know, and I go.
00:37:38
Speaker 2: The schools. It's not the schools. Huh we lost you?
00:37:45
Speaker 3: Jeff, still there Jeff, go ahead.
00:37:47
Speaker 9: Yeah, whatever, But yeah, but where are some of that? But yeah, can you hear me?
00:37:54
Speaker 2: Uh some going in and out, kind.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: Of dropping in and out.
00:37:59
Speaker 6: You, oh, we lost him live radio one thing.
00:38:14
Speaker 2: We know he'll.
00:38:16
Speaker 3: And this is live radioses. What happens. It's beyond control and it is live.
00:38:21
Speaker 1: But yeah, there it just the the the inattention, seemingly in attention to seemingly it's ongoing, nagging, nagging, nagging problem.
00:38:35
Speaker 2: It's you know my answer.
00:38:37
Speaker 1: You need a potholes are I've said that somebody that does nothing but potholes in the administration, nothing.
00:38:42
Speaker 5: But the damage to your vehicle that can happen. I doubt it's going to be easy to get the city to.
00:38:51
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The city reportedly and and I guess for the record, does have a provision for if your vehicle is damaged by potholes.
00:39:07
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, vehicle damage.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: I thought so, but right here, oh okay, I see. Yeah.
00:39:12
Speaker 1: If a pothole causes damage, residents can file a claim for reimbursement with the city. The twenty twenty six season has seen an early start due to rapid temperature fluctuations between freezing and going, often requiring crews to switch between snow removal and road repair. And that's according to WTHR and WISHTV. Now our WRTV a few years ago did a deep dive into how many of these claims were actually paid.
00:39:52
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's.
00:39:54
Speaker 3: What I was driving at too.
00:39:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many were actually maid? If you were, if I'm not mistaken, and I'll look it up and somebody's going to correct me. And that's fine if you do. But my recollection is fewer than twenty percent of these things are paid.
00:40:09
Speaker 5: Really, yes, Wow, I think I kind of thought that would be the case, because I would imagine you've got to prove that it had happened in the city.
00:40:22
Speaker 2: I think the bar is quite high.
00:40:23
Speaker 5: Where when, and make sure you have proof your vehicle wasn't already damaged in some way.
00:40:32
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine it's.
00:40:33
Speaker 5: Going to be an easy process if you have to say, well, I'm going to final a claim, here's what happened.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: I have to I guess if you had.
00:40:41
Speaker 5: Built in cameras, you know, underneath your car, around your car, kind of like what tesla. I think some Teslas have cameras all over the place, maybe then you could easily prove it. Here's the video driving along both.
00:40:53
Speaker 2: Oh I was I was way high?
00:40:55
Speaker 3: Oh were you away?
00:40:56
Speaker 1: Hana rarely pays for pothole damages to cars, with reports indicating that in some areas like Indianapolis, fewer than two to ten percent claims are successful two to Now it says compensation requires proving negligence, specifically that the government knew about the pothole and failed to fix it within a reasonable time. That's almost an unbelievable that's there's my point, ridiculous threshold.
00:41:23
Speaker 3: How can you prove it? But they knew, But.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: There's money, there's money to pay it. There's money there to pay it. They just don't pay it out.
00:41:31
Speaker 3: So well, yeah, Brian said earlier, where does that money go?
00:41:36
Speaker 6: Then?
00:41:36
Speaker 2: Where does that money?
00:41:37
Speaker 3: Where is that going?
00:41:38
Speaker 10: Yeah?
00:41:38
Speaker 3: Only two percent?
00:41:40
Speaker 1: I I know it was a two I thought it was fewer than twenty percent, And.
00:41:44
Speaker 3: You said, you know, I'm thinking, oh, well that's yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker 2: And it was a really good report.
00:41:49
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's about three maybe four years ago WRT, because we.
00:41:53
Speaker 2: We shared that on the show as well. We shared that, so my goodness, unbelieved.
00:42:01
Speaker 5: Wow, And there's a lot of people that have had. Well, you talked about the issue you had with potholes.
00:42:07
Speaker 1: The only reason that I'm not more upset is that I did pay extra for an extended.
00:42:13
Speaker 2: Warranty okay, okay, which was you know, was.
00:42:16
Speaker 1: Ten dollars a tire to extend the regular warranty. And the regular warranty that comes with your new tires is one that what do they call it? It's a graduated right after so many months and after so many miles, it only pays up to this point to where at some point in time it becomes useless, become absolutely yours. So the extended warranty gives you the no matter what, it doesn't have the graduated decline that the factory warranties have with tires. But yeah, about a brand new set of tires and in less than a year had to replace three of them. The fourth one is still going, I guess, but had to replace three.
00:43:00
Speaker 3: If you didn't have that warranty. And there's some people driving.
00:43:03
Speaker 5: Older cars, SUVs, trucks who don't, and then it has to come out of pocket. Tires are not cheap drive and wheels rims uh. You can spend a couple of thousand something like that.
00:43:19
Speaker 2: Is Jeffy is Let's go back to Jeff.
00:43:24
Speaker 9: Hey, you know Jason, Yeah, technology is something else. But anyway, but uh, but anyway, I just over a bunch of chuck holes. Uh over Hendris Avon Brownsburg Way, and their streets are nice, I mean nice. I've been to Hamilton, nice street. What is it about Marion County and then we can't get our streets together.
00:43:44
Speaker 1: I just want to know folks from Hamilton County and Hendricks County are in here driving on our roads.
00:43:49
Speaker 2: I'm not paying taxes to keep them up.
00:43:54
Speaker 9: Mike Brown, well, Mike Braun and his in his neil Nazi, uh Lieutenant govern need to get on the ball instead of worshiping Trump at the altar. But anyway, but I want to say this real quick, this is going back. You know, you know I'm gonna get political here.
00:44:10
Speaker 12: You know, your alma mater just won the national championship and foot in college football team here, we just had.
00:44:16
Speaker 9: A Seattle Seahawks just win the Super Bowl. Now, these guys they got black athletes on there. You know when they do their little annual, their little traditional visit to the White House whatever.
00:44:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, he buys the McDonald's yeah, well, anyway that was those black athletes, I was boycott.
00:44:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, if that was those black athletes, they should boycott because if he thinks that Barack Obama and Michelle Obamber a bunch of apes, guess what do you think about me? Uh? Me, you, Tina.
00:44:47
Speaker 12: And and uh Eric and uh and and all the other black folks.
00:44:52
Speaker 9: They he think we're all a bunch of apes. You know, he looks like an Oranger team. But you know they should boycott because he because the way he sees Baraco is the way he sees them. Okay, and you know if you see.
00:45:04
Speaker 12: Me as a chimpanzee, and white folks don't go down this rabbit. But comparing black people the ages, because if you really want to get technical about it, well, ain't Scott's damn lips.
00:45:15
Speaker 9: You cut their hair off there white complexted. You know, they got white skin and they got differentiates the colored vines. So white folks don't go down that rabbit comparing black people they hate.
00:45:23
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
00:45:24
Speaker 12: That's a that's an old trope, you know, to justify slavery and Jennie ci colonialism and imperialism, and so I.
00:45:31
Speaker 9: Ain't comparing white folks and aches. But don't buy into that trope. Okay, white folks, don't, no, don't go there, and don't This ain't come for me. This has come from Eddie Murphy.
00:45:39
Speaker 12: There's a little thing on seeing when he was on Saturday Night Live and he was presented with the same question, why are black people?
00:45:46
Speaker 9: Why are black people compared to eight?
00:45:48
Speaker 12: And uh well, I'm gonna let mister Eddie Murphy explain that to everybody. But it's on Google and you'll find on YouTube and you might find it entertained Tina and erics. So uh So, anyway, if all those black athletes, go visit your mother, go hang out with your girlfriend, go to Walmart, but don't go to the White House.
00:46:05
Speaker 9: Don't go to Walmart. Boycott now, but don't go to the White House. If he thinks you're an eight, then you know what why should I you know, why should I pay you a.
00:46:17
Speaker 3: Visit?
00:46:17
Speaker 9: You know? And just what you think about me? Yeah, and that's why Stephen A. Smith's Snoop Dogg and Byron Dust he thinks the same way about you.
00:46:25
Speaker 2: Have a nice day, all right, appreciate it? Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Interesting whether or not we haven't heard of him. But I'm I mean, you know, how.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: How fresh can three hundred hamburgers be if you McDonald's to the White House, to the to the reception.
00:46:51
Speaker 2: Room and all that other.
00:46:53
Speaker 5: I was not even enough to think, maybe they're prepared, prepared, they're.
00:46:57
Speaker 2: In the White House somewhere McDonald's.
00:46:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean different.
00:47:01
Speaker 5: Maybe McDonald's, I don't know, had somebody come in and prepare them. That's what I thought at one time.
00:47:08
Speaker 1: Oh of course, yeah, okay, remember when he was invited to the White House and they had all of this stuff sitting out. That stuff sits out for a while, is they're preparing, and then they have to do, you know, do security. And he ended up he drank one too many doctor peppers. He couldn't believe how many doctor peppers he had. But I say that to say that there's just so many factors influencing Now. If they catered it, the White House catered it, they can control it. But if you go and buy it from somewhere else, and then you institute all of the security measures and do all this other stuff, it's gonna get cold.
00:47:46
Speaker 3: Yeah makes sense.
00:47:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rubbery French fries and a cold burger and that's.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: What he bought you, that's what he liked. So wow, yeah, but you haven't heard anything. I don't even know that he's going to invite him to.
00:48:01
Speaker 2: The White House because sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. But that, you know, that would be interesting, that would be But back.
00:48:08
Speaker 1: To the to the potholes though, do the best she can, and it's it's disheartening. I know our our friend Lifestyles with Eric has had some tremendous damage to his high performing sports cars as a result direct result of potholes and has never been able to be reimbursed by the city.
00:48:27
Speaker 2: He was given the run Yeah, yeah, he's he shared that with us. He was given the run around. He has a he has a podcast.
00:48:34
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's said about it lately, and we haven't heard from him for a while.
00:48:38
Speaker 2: On the show.
00:48:39
Speaker 1: But when the next time he calls in, when he does, I'm going to ask him about that if he ever got any money. So it's it's almost a joke like if you if your car's damage, go ahead.
00:48:51
Speaker 3: File yeah, file go ahead and see what happens. What happens, you know, chance.
00:48:58
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to figure on how that two got paid.
00:49:02
Speaker 3: But that's just that's wow.
00:49:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:49:06
Speaker 5: And there are potholes. I mean, you know you see them. I've seen them. They're all over the place. You're trying to dodge of this dodge and sometimes right in the driving lane you can't get around it. If somebody's next to you, you end up driving through it. Or if there's of course, if it's rained, they're full of water.
00:49:24
Speaker 1: Not enough water, because I yeah, when I hit one and it tore up my tire and it was raining and there was water there.
00:49:33
Speaker 5: When you can't see them, I mean they're full of rain. You can't see them there. They're full and until it's too late.
00:49:37
Speaker 2: Until it's too late.
00:49:38
Speaker 1: And you know what drives me crazy about tires too, uh And I get it, I guess because I don't understand. But there's a very I mean, some tires you can have repaired, some you can't. Most of the time, when you hit a pothole, it's going to be on the outer or inner wall of the tires.
00:49:59
Speaker 2: It's not to be a dead center.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: And that's the only place they can repair a tire dead center, Yeah, because if on the outer wall or the inner wall, well you need.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: A new time new tire. That's right, you're right.
00:50:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:50:12
Speaker 1: And so I was like, can you plug this? And there was one I had that was just right on the board. I said, put a plug in that, ma'am, ma'am, I'm sorry, I just can't. I'm like, please, no, camp because it wouldn't be safe.
00:50:27
Speaker 5: And if you have low profile tires, you know what that's like very a small, very thin sidewall.
00:50:34
Speaker 3: Do you have really big wheels.
00:50:36
Speaker 5: If your wheels are oh what twenty two to twenty three inch, your sidewall has got to be thinner. And you hit a pothole with that, your wheel's gone. Your tires got done too.
00:50:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. So there in goes all of.
00:50:49
Speaker 1: The joy of driving in the city of Indiana.
00:50:53
Speaker 3: That's the joy.
00:50:54
Speaker 2: But the good thing is.
00:50:55
Speaker 1: It's not going to I don't think it's going to be raining for a while. So be able to see and you know, the next time we have an opportunity to get a city, county councilor in here, I think they're they're gonna they're trying to rotate several ends so that our listeners can get an idea of who their representatives are, and I think that's great.
00:51:16
Speaker 3: I think too.
00:51:17
Speaker 2: You know, Counselor Lewis wants to.
00:51:18
Speaker 1: Counselor President Lewis wants to get more people involved, so that would be good. But yeah, so it is puddle season and again, request dot Indy dot gov, request dot Indy dot gov if you want to go online and report it, or you can call the Mayor's Action Center. Three one seven three two seven four six two two three one seven three two seven four six two two is the number there.
00:51:46
Speaker 2: So there we have. Oh okay, go ahead, say and how are you?
00:51:53
Speaker 13: Oh okay.
00:51:55
Speaker 10: Some folks say, oh, she must be a Democrat. My father tell me about peoples that have a character.
00:52:02
Speaker 13: Listen, So if.
00:52:06
Speaker 10: There have been times I've voted Republican and sometimes I've voted Democrats, Okay, they been talking about that, and I don't care what you are, but listen, part holes in Indianapolis of the fifty sixth, I say, we're number fifty, and I'll tell you what I voted for. Hot set, but our hold, our pot holes have gotten worse. First time when I drove off is a lot in twenty twenty two and six months I was listing, I had to take a car back just for the check, and I have bulbs on three of the cars. It was not because there was a defect because of the streets. I remember how much I paid. I had to pay four.
00:52:56
Speaker 9: Six months in on in the.
00:52:57
Speaker 10: Car, four hundred and six see sixty dollars and some change to replace three cars. I mean replace three cars. So I replaced the three cars. You know that's a down payment another car. Then again I was driving and hit a pow hole crossing uh sixty second in Alisonville.
00:53:20
Speaker 13: Okay, to my tire.
00:53:22
Speaker 10: Called my cousin. He said, I'm coming over. He said, I gotta take off this tire. That's fair. I'm like it was a different car though, and I oh, before I got the one I got now. Then recently on Christmas Eve. On Christmas Day, I was with my family and following my daughter home because their lights were out in the back. So I decided, I'll just go go down Michigan Road. Okay, I'm going from seventy ninth going south on Michigan Road. Like I'll shoot, I'm gonna be safe. It's Michigan Road. Wrong tena this food? Oh I got by this time, I was like it was about one o'clock.
00:54:03
Speaker 13: Called I hit like when you talked about the rains.
00:54:09
Speaker 10: Okay, here's the thing, why, heart said, are you doing the same cep fag that.
00:54:14
Speaker 9: Did years ago? And follows get worse.
00:54:18
Speaker 2: You know, You've been one.
00:54:19
Speaker 9: Little thing and then you drive over the.
00:54:22
Speaker 10: People drive over, you know, and then you know it's hot, so it starts pickens and wheels to make the bigger bottles. I mean that it doesn't make sense. Do what what's right? Get the right stup.
00:54:34
Speaker 13: Now.
00:54:34
Speaker 9: Something that was so mayor far creek.
00:54:38
Speaker 10: I think it's far craze yard of Boulevard, but it was a street over there on the east side, and when somebody used something with a tar and it was like zig zag maybe didn't a little trickier, you know, but hey, you know what, Uh, then zig zags have been holding all this side. I'm just saying, if you're going to do the work, do it right, alright, and stop making the potholes that you cover up with mess. But they start to come up, but you can common sense and use the right stuff. No I can't.
00:55:10
Speaker 9: I can't deal with this.
00:55:12
Speaker 14: Uh.
00:55:12
Speaker 10: Four times and then after dropping followed my daughter make sure she was okay.
00:55:17
Speaker 2: I going home.
00:55:18
Speaker 9: We celebranted Christmas Eve.
00:55:20
Speaker 10: I'm going down Michigan Road before I get to Walmart. It's dark. I'm about to turn down there now, so so I can tell you if it was dark and I had a pole.
00:55:34
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.
00:55:36
Speaker 10: Have you guess what fort the rim of my car? Tigrim?
00:55:40
Speaker 2: Have you reported these?
00:55:43
Speaker 7: No?
00:55:44
Speaker 9: What's the use?
00:55:45
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's worth a shot.
00:55:49
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I've been doing that and nothing happened.
00:55:53
Speaker 2: Reported and had the damage and everything.
00:55:57
Speaker 10: Oh please, then I go pay for that. I can't wait. I can't wait six or seven months for the city to so called pay for something like. I got to get around and do what I got to do now. Now they don't pay anybody.
00:56:11
Speaker 7: You know.
00:56:11
Speaker 2: I'm hard.
00:56:12
Speaker 11: I'm done.
00:56:13
Speaker 10: I'm done. You called me with a fork. Okay, okay, all.
00:56:17
Speaker 2: Right, Sam, thank you very much for your call. Appreciate it.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: I tell you what, one of the most emotional things is ever to come to this show all the time.
00:56:27
Speaker 2: There is sixty day that's I.
00:56:30
Speaker 3: Don't And the thing is the area.
00:56:33
Speaker 5: She mentioned parts of Michigan Road other streets too in the city. They've been patched and repatched and repatched. It's like, can't you just strip it out and repaid the whole section.
00:56:44
Speaker 3: I know it cost money, but.
00:56:49
Speaker 2: There you have. We'll be back right after this.
00:59:02
Speaker 3: Mh mhm.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: H m hm, and we are back with community connection. Uh here going into our second hour and uh Eric.
00:59:19
Speaker 3: Interesting mm hm oh yeah, that was that's a subject. Talk about that all afternoon.
00:59:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could, uh, but we got to keep going.
00:59:34
Speaker 2: But no, I think we do need to keep it. And I would like for more people.
00:59:37
Speaker 1: To what's that what's that strategy they use at the White House? Flood the zone and keep submitting those reports and submitting those requests for reimbursement.
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Uh, it'll force attention to it.
00:59:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, as far as I you know, I don't know what may or may not be done, but it will at least force attention and show that the community is serious about it and getting them reported is really really Yeah.
01:00:02
Speaker 3: The website, the phone number just flooded.
01:00:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, let them know.
01:00:08
Speaker 1: Let's see a week and a day ago today. A week ago yesterday, city of Indianapolis made history by appointing their first ever, our first ever female chief of Police from the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department. She is here with us now on Community Connection. She is Chief Tanya Terry, the newly appointed chief of Police for the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department. Chief Terry, welcome, how are you today?
01:00:38
Speaker 13: Well?
01:00:38
Speaker 14: Thank you, Tina. I really appreciate you inviting me on to the show today so we can connect and talk with the community.
01:00:46
Speaker 7: I'm doing well. How are you?
01:00:49
Speaker 2: I'm doing well.
01:00:50
Speaker 1: I'm not in the police business, so I think I'm okay.
01:00:54
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. That's a toughie. So how long have you been with the department?
01:01:00
Speaker 7: Twenty seven years?
01:01:01
Speaker 2: Twenty seven years?
01:01:02
Speaker 3: Okay?
01:01:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, and I'm sure that you've talked about this and you've got a statement out. But I just wanted to hit on this very quickly as we get into the other things. But you were not even what three days old or four days old before major controversy hit involving one of your officers and a police stop with the juvenile.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play it. I'm not gonna play it.
01:01:28
Speaker 1: But the officer was heard swearing at the juvenile suspect he was talking to, threatening to f and kill him before the traffic stop. The other side is IMPD had received information that students maybe had a planned protest with firearms, and they say the officers saw a male juvenile enter a vehicle with a gun before initiating the traffic stop. One of the juveniles was arrested for dangerous possession and so on and so forth. Friday night, Like I said, you weren't very old. You know, you didn't have a week under your belt. Friday night, the department released a photograph of the gun and a statement. Part of the statement read, Chief Terry. While the video does not show the entire incident, some of the language herd does not reflect the standards or values of the IMPD accountability. IMPD accountability, I'm sorry of the IMPD accountability rather is essential to building trust and legitimacy within our community. The involved officer was equipped with a body worn camera which recorded the incident, and internal review is underway to determine the full circumstance of the encounter. So, Chief Terry, the community part is what I want to get at. So what is the latest on the case. Is there any update that you can give the community regarding what's going on with that?
01:02:43
Speaker 7: Well, I cannot.
01:02:44
Speaker 14: I'll say this first, I have to navigate a very fine line between following the law surrounding confidentiality and incident surrounding miners. Yeah, however, we have had engagement with our community members to try to provide additional context surrounding this traffic stop.
01:03:05
Speaker 7: And you you waid.
01:03:06
Speaker 14: It out fairly well. There were certainly a couple of things going on with this situation that are of concern and should be of concern to all of us. First and foremost, I acknowledge and we are investigating the language used by our officer towards the driver of the car that, as we said in our statement, is not how we train, is not the expectation that we have on our officers, even when in tense situations and moments. We expect officers to provide commands that will direct somebody's behavior and tell them what we want them to do. And that's what we should be trained to, what we do train to, and what we strive for on the.
01:03:55
Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead.
01:03:56
Speaker 14: On the flip side of that, Black was mentioned in the state. The video that was made public by social media is also an It's an incomplete video, and I'd like to just point out that the reason that the officer's attention was drawn to the vehicle and the occupants was based on the conduct and the behavior of those occupants. The fact that a youthful appearing student was in possession of a firearm and got into a vehicle was a concern and was also confirming information that members of the community who were concerned about.
01:04:37
Speaker 7: Safety reported to us.
01:04:39
Speaker 14: So we had a due diligence to ensure safety of those that are exercising their first Amendment right.
01:04:47
Speaker 7: We take that very seriously, so we want people to do that in a safe way, and.
01:04:53
Speaker 14: Miners with firearms is not a safe situation for anyone.
01:04:56
Speaker 1: So these have been determined to be minors. They were not eighteen because is the state law, people or residents over the age of eighteen are allowed to carry without a permit. So these were established to be juveniles for sure.
01:05:10
Speaker 14: Well, I can tell you that we made an arrest of a seventeen year old for a dangerous suggession of a firearm.
01:05:17
Speaker 1: Okay, I get that. Two other questions, what does an internal review entail? And you talked about the body worn camera video that was shot. Any timeline on when that might be released.
01:05:29
Speaker 14: So a couple of things. Let me talk about the process first, and then I'll talk about the body worn camera footage. The process has two potential paths when an officer falls short of policy or expectations. Number One, if we as an agency recognize something that needs to be investigated, we can certainly initiate an investigation without anybody alerting us to some conduct.
01:05:56
Speaker 7: We have a lot of.
01:05:57
Speaker 14: Internal processes, some balances that review our officer conduct on a regular basis. Certainly, the fact that this incident was posted on social media and garnered a lot of attention, it was not very long before our agency became aware of the incident. I immediately initiated an internal investigation based on just what we saw in the social media video.
01:06:24
Speaker 7: So that also goes to our Professional standards unit.
01:06:28
Speaker 14: Internal affairs is a common reference to our professional standards unit, and they have initiated that investigation to evaluate the entire incident in its entirety, both before and after the events captured on the online social media video. The other path that a complaint where an investigation can take is by somebody reporting an incident or conduct to the Citizen Complaint Office and we call that CPCO, and we encourage anybody who has concerns about any officer's conduct to raise those concerns, and that is a civilian oversight board that we cooperate with, so a complaint can come in through the CPCO, and then that is also routed to our Professional Standards divisions for investigations. So that's the process, the two paths that a process can take. Now regarding the video, and I mentioned this in my initial remarks, because this incident involves minors, we have laws that we have to follow about juvenile records and confidentiality, and the laws not allow us to release that bodyworm camera footage as much as I would like to, because I think it would certainly tell a more complete and full story of the events surrounding that incident, but we're not at liberty to do that because of researching legally, not.
01:08:01
Speaker 2: Even a portion of it that doesn't involve a juvenile.
01:08:05
Speaker 14: No, the entire incident surrounds the juvenile arrest.
01:08:09
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the juvenile.
01:08:11
Speaker 1: Okay, So, as far as chief, what are your options regarding the officer? I guess from training to recommending dismissal or recommending firing.
01:08:22
Speaker 2: What are your options as chief?
01:08:24
Speaker 14: I'll tell you one thing that is important to me, and I treat this the members of the public. I make it a point to treat members of the public with dignity, respect and fairness, and I will do the same thing with our officers and follow the due process that's involved, and the investigation will be completed. It will follow the remainder of the process.
01:08:48
Speaker 7: It will be evaluated at.
01:08:49
Speaker 14: Multiple different levels, and at the end of that, there would be a disciplinary recommendation made.
01:08:55
Speaker 1: Made to you, yes, and then you will have the option to decide what that recommend what that disciplinary action should be as far as the recommendation.
01:09:05
Speaker 14: From you, yes, based on any sustained violations that are found during the course of the investigation.
01:09:11
Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's just concerning. And I know that it was you know, welcome to to being chief. But by the same token as you were saying, the the trust and the confidence of the community that this is going to be handled correctly in a fair and efficient way is also important as well, because when it goes spiral like that, there's a lot.
01:09:37
Speaker 14: So absolutely we recognize that the deep impact that hearing words like that out of a trusted, trusted member of our police department is hurtful. We understand that, and I know that we have a long road to go ahead of us to repair relationships and regain trust.
01:09:57
Speaker 7: We want our young people and our.
01:10:00
Speaker 14: Community not to be afraid of the police. We want young people in our community to be safe, and we want them to trust the police and know that we are somebody that they can come to for guidance. And sometimes sometimes that guidance involved correcting behaviors.
01:10:18
Speaker 7: But at the same time, when we.
01:10:22
Speaker 14: Fall short of expectations, I recognize that trust is impaired and we have work to do on that front. It's important to us to continue to regain that trust.
01:10:34
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you can tell us about the officer? Is he still on the street or is he you know what?
01:10:41
Speaker 2: We need the investigation. What's going on with that?
01:10:43
Speaker 14: Do you know we have we've modified his daily duty to remove him from contact with the public at this time.
01:10:50
Speaker 7: So we as we move through this O process.
01:10:54
Speaker 1: All right, Well just yeah, so yeah, I got it a little bit clearer, pick sure, because you were saying that the video that went viral was a portion of the entire incident, So maybe the you know the fact that the officer went from zero to one hundred in no time at all. Are you saying that there's some video that we have yet to see that could possibly.
01:11:20
Speaker 14: Be well, I can, I can. I've seen the body worn camera footage.
01:11:26
Speaker 2: Okay.
01:11:26
Speaker 14: I can tell you that there was very respectful dialogue between both the occupants of the vehicle and the officers that initiated that traffic stop, including the officer that used the language in question, and the initial The initial dialogue was very respectful and productive. There was also instructions that were given to the occupants of the vehicle about time to get out of the car, what to do with their hands, and instructions to follow. I can tell you that at least two of the occupants of the vehicle did not follow those instructions, and that changed the dynamic of the encounter.
01:12:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:12:06
Speaker 2: Uh, well, we will we be able to see that.
01:12:09
Speaker 14: Well, I've just I'm telling you that the video that's been released on social media doesn't show everything, and we are not Yeah, we're not legally able to release that.
01:12:20
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
01:12:21
Speaker 14: I'm sure I certainly would love to.
01:12:24
Speaker 7: I certainly would love to.
01:12:26
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, we'll get we'll certainly keep an eye on that. I'm sure that that's not what you were thinking your first week. So how did how has your for your your chief a week and a day? How has outside of that, how has everything gone?
01:12:42
Speaker 14: It's been, uh, certainly a growth period for me, maybe a little bit quicker than I had anticipated or expected. But at the same time, UH, that is my responsibility. I am the faith of our police department. I accept the responsibility for the actions of all of our officers. And at the same token, one of the good things about that is their good work also is a reflection of me. And there's a lot of good work that goes unnoticed by our officers, and when one of us falls short, unfortunately, it usually makes the news and it takes away from a lot of the good work that officers are doing every day. As a matter of fact, just prior to the Chief Bailey stepping down and my appointment, we were honored to attend several award ceremonies where our officers risked their lives and jumped into cold water to rescue and save lives, entered burning buildings, talked a suicidal person off of a parking garage ledge and recognize that kind of selfless work that's.
01:13:52
Speaker 7: Done every single day.
01:13:53
Speaker 14: So it's both a privilege to serve in this role and certainly also a learning experience, and twenty seven years in the job. Nobody keeps doing this for twenty seven years if they didn't have passion and care and concern for our community.
01:14:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:14:12
Speaker 1: I was about to ask you about that, because did you ever, at any point in time during your twenty seven year career think that you would become the chief?
01:14:24
Speaker 3: You know?
01:14:24
Speaker 2: Was that an aspiration? Was that a goal? And how do you.
01:14:31
Speaker 1: Want people to view the historic nature of the appointment.
01:14:37
Speaker 7: I'll tell you.
01:14:38
Speaker 14: I was a young beat officer that worked on the North Side in the Crownhill neighborhood for many years. I worked at night, primarily to start my career, and I had so much fun and I took so much pride in trying to ensure that.
01:14:57
Speaker 7: When our community members and residents.
01:14:59
Speaker 14: Went to sleep, even business owners went to sleep or closed up shop for the night, that I was out there, driving up and down the streets, getting out of my car, engaging with people even in the middle of the night, to make sure that the next morning, when they woke up, everything was the way that they left it.
01:15:17
Speaker 7: That was my mission. I took it very seriously. I still take it seriously to this day.
01:15:22
Speaker 14: And no, I never thought that I would do anything else on this police department except for that be a beat cop, maybe be a detective, things like that. I always saw myself as a worker bee or a street cop. So I actually promoted late in my career, after about fifteen or sixteen years of being a patrol officer.
01:15:44
Speaker 1: Was there any point in time, because I'm sure they had contacted you about accepting the appointment, was there ever a point in time when you thought, I don't think I will do this, or did you ever think no, or even we working in flicked it about it at all.
01:16:02
Speaker 14: Well, I can tell you I've been here since second grade. Indianapolis is my home. I consider myself to have been raised here. I'm a graduate of Lawren Central High School on the east side of town. My wife is on the police department, and we are raising our two teenagers here in Marion County as proud residents of Marion County. That is important to me. And so yeah, I had to have critical conversations with my loved ones about the commitment that it would require to do this job and do it correctly and to make myself available to members of the community, make myself available to the officers that need.
01:16:51
Speaker 7: To have time with me.
01:16:54
Speaker 14: Is going to undoubtedly take away from my family time, and so without their support, could not have said yes. So certainly critical conversations took place.
01:17:05
Speaker 7: And we navigated that as a family.
01:17:07
Speaker 14: And ultimately made the decision that we would do this together.
01:17:11
Speaker 1: So it was never a thought of no, but rather well, how can I make it work?
01:17:17
Speaker 9: Yes?
01:17:17
Speaker 14: Okay, careful configuration first, because that's not just me that's involved.
01:17:21
Speaker 2: No, No, it never is.
01:17:22
Speaker 1: It never is. Things like that impact family's entire family. You know, when you when you accept positions, especially in law enforcement, which is a world in and of its own. So uh, Former City County Councilor Duke Oliver has a question for you, Chief.
01:17:37
Speaker 15: Thank you so much to thank you so much to have there on.
01:17:40
Speaker 7: Thank you, Chief.
01:17:41
Speaker 15: I met you two weeks ago and I've seen you at Thecourage the meeting last week. Thank you so much. My question is thank you for your service, but my question about ice, the relationship or legal legality of ice in your did in the city of the annactress. Can they uh you we have an instruction from the mayor can they if they are if they are investigating, if you are investigating me or anyone? Can ICE come in and move your weight, move one of your office way, say we're taking over?
01:18:21
Speaker 9: Can they overwrap? At two points?
01:18:28
Speaker 7: I can try.
01:18:29
Speaker 14: I don't know if I fully understand the nature of your question, but I think you're asking if ICE can supersede a local law enforcement investigation. Do I have that right?
01:18:41
Speaker 11: Uh?
01:18:41
Speaker 2: He just tongue up.
01:18:43
Speaker 14: But okay, Well, I'll do my best to try to clarify our roles, and I'll say that local law enforcement I MPD.
01:18:54
Speaker 7: Uh.
01:18:54
Speaker 14: We do not participate, nor have we been asked to participate in immigration enforcement at activities That is a function of the federal government and not a function of local law enforcement.
01:19:06
Speaker 7: And as the chief of police.
01:19:09
Speaker 14: Our priority remains our community here in Indianapolis and ensuring.
01:19:15
Speaker 7: Their public safety.
01:19:16
Speaker 14: Our focus remains driving down violent crime here, being committed and present here to our people, and focusing on our daily duties.
01:19:26
Speaker 1: Federal and local officials, though law enforcement officials, often work together, and perhaps I think his question was will IMPD if ask work with ICE and other federal officials representing it, will that happen?
01:19:40
Speaker 14: I will tell you that we follow the laws. We remain lawful in our actions, but we do not participate in immigration enforcement activities.
01:19:50
Speaker 7: Now.
01:19:51
Speaker 14: We do have multiple federal agencies that we partner with when we have a common investigation involved, and our focus is local law enforcement is on addressing crime and criminal activity and local and state laws. Our focus is not on enforcing federal laws. If there is a federal law violation, we may work with our federal counterparts to conduct an investigation. Maybe it crosses state lines, Maybe there are federal resources available to use federal technology or other resources that we don't have access to as a local agency, and that is not uncommon for us to do. We have several task force officers that are assigned in various units like drug enforcement, gun enforcement, and that is something that yes, we are engaged with federal partners on that front, but we are not engaged with federal partners on immigration enforcement.
01:20:50
Speaker 1: And chief As far as the community, and you talked about gaining community trust, what's your plan, vision, mission, so to speak, in terms of your new administration and the community, especially as it started out so roughly on such a note as the viral video traffic stop.
01:21:13
Speaker 14: Sure trust and transparency, and I think that we can attempt to repair that through accountability, as we've talked about already, clear and consistent communication. I've made myself available to members of our community to talk through this incident, to share perspective, to hear anger and frustration. I think that's important, and continuing to partner with our community members to continue to build and sustain that trust. Public safety is not something that can be achieved just with the police alone. We rely on community partners constantly, and some of those conversations that we've had even since this incident last Friday, are surrounding how can we partner with some of our community members to get through to our kids prevent this type of thing from happening. And I clearly not diminishing the action or the conduct of our officers, but there are other things to consider as well, and underlying that brought us to that situation in the first place, which was a sole and fire in our arm being in possession of kids. We've got to address what's happening with our young people. We had a seventeen year old shot over the weekend. Don't know the circumstances, so why are our kids around these guns. They are getting hurt and we've got to do something about it.
01:22:40
Speaker 2: We'll keep talking to his chief.
01:22:41
Speaker 1: Congratulations again on your historic appointment. You can come back anytime. We'd love to have you on. And again, thank you for talking with this congratulations.
01:22:52
Speaker 7: Well, thank you, Tina, and I'll come back again soon.
01:22:54
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Takes sure you too.
01:22:57
Speaker 1: And again that was newly appointed IMPD Chief Tanya Terry.
01:23:03
Speaker 2: She was open and honest with us. I just learned that.
01:23:07
Speaker 3: That gun was stolen. I didn't know the idea.
01:23:10
Speaker 1: Was stolen, stolen, stolen, So there's another there we go. Yeah, she's being transparent, I guess. Anyway, more community connection is coming up.
01:23:21
Speaker 2: We'll be right back h m hm, and we're back with community connection again.
01:23:36
Speaker 1: Just had a a good conversation with the incoming Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Chief of Police. I think she was as transparent as she could be, uh not excusing the behavior of the officer and adding a little more context to what was going on, explaining why were not able to see video because one of the suspects is seventeen and that makes them a juvenile, and.
01:24:08
Speaker 2: That the gun was stolen. We haven't heard that anywhere I have. First it was the first.
01:24:14
Speaker 1: You know, she said a juvenile carrying a stolen gun. Well, so apparently it has been established that the gun was stolen, established that there was a juvenile. It has not been established what is going to happen to that officer who threatened to f and kill the kid.
01:24:33
Speaker 3: But that's established.
01:24:35
Speaker 1: That's but an investigation into him is underway and he is no longer out there having runs with the public. He's apparently doing some administrative stuff and not not his depending the results of the investigation and recommendations behave. You know, recommendations are going to be made to her, but she will have the final say so as to what she will decide to do. So that's kind of tied up as neatly as we possibly could. Uh again, her administration is a week and a day old.
01:25:10
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so's it's for.
01:25:12
Speaker 1: Three days and she got sworn in on Monday and this happened Friday evening. Yeah, so four days old, four days old old.
01:25:20
Speaker 5: So we'll see, and she's willing to come back on oh yeah, yeah.
01:25:25
Speaker 1: You know, I can honestly say that Bailey and Taylor and now, uh, you know, Chief Terry. They've all sat down and they you know, they've said, hey, I'll tell you what I can what I can't. So I don't I never I haven't gotten the impression that any of the last three have tried to avoid us. And as long as we engage in fair, meaningful exchange, I think they're going to.
01:25:54
Speaker 2: Continue to do this.
01:25:55
Speaker 3: Obviously there are things they can't talk about.
01:25:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't chare, but but it was still disturbing, as I shared with her, it was still disturbing seeing that officer talked to them like that, and I, I'm it has to be addressed. That part of it has to be addressed. The rest of it, I don't know, we'll see.
01:26:14
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go back to the phone lines.
01:26:16
Speaker 1: Uh three one seven, four eight zero thirteen ten three one seven, four eight zero thirteen ten Joyce, go ahead, how are you?
01:26:25
Speaker 13: I'm fine, Tina. How about yourself?
01:26:27
Speaker 2: I'm fine, Thank you.
01:26:29
Speaker 13: It's good, Okay. So my question was for the chief of police, the new four day in chief of police, but she's no longer on the mine. But I was wondering what her stance was. Are the police working for the businesses or the community, Like if you have a sound up. I've been trespassed off of a few locations, and I'm like, they didn't even hear both sides of the story. You know, they renting to call the police. I'm like, please do, and then when the police come, I'm truspassed.
01:27:06
Speaker 2: Why were you trespassing? Joyce?
01:27:08
Speaker 13: No, if you go to post office to inquire about mail, would that be considered truspassing? Tina?
01:27:14
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the circumstances.
01:27:16
Speaker 13: Well, are you asked the premifice the circumstance?
01:27:20
Speaker 2: Were you asked to.
01:27:21
Speaker 1: Leave and refuse? Because that could entail trespassing.
01:27:24
Speaker 13: I went down there to inquire by the letter that I received. The postman took mister Milton took my mail, the letter and then called the police when I asked for it back. What is that me? You can't just take my mail when I come down there to inquire about At least that's what I presumed. Maybe I presumed in correctly, but I didn't know it would lead to a trustpassing. And then I had to call the Mayor's Action sender to give my mail delivered. They just stopped delivering my mail, and I'm like, huh, how was Johns?
01:27:59
Speaker 7: Was?
01:27:59
Speaker 1: That? Was that that confrontation? I mean, what what happened to go to those extremes? That is not I went.
01:28:06
Speaker 13: Down there to inquire about my mail because I had been getting mail sporadically and then you know, some days it would have brown dog on the insufficient address. I walked down there one day to ask where I am?
01:28:20
Speaker 2: What you said, brown dog, that's.
01:28:23
Speaker 13: What some of the letters have on them. Yeah, and then insufficient I address, which was I A. And IQU went went down there to inquire about that. That's how I know what it was. But then when I get a letter, well, it don't even have my right name, and then it's in my mailbox and I go down there to ask you about it, and you snatched the letter. Well no, he didn't snatch it out. That's misspoke on my I put the letter down on the counter. He said, I threw it. But I put it on the counter and was asking him, and he ainked it back and would not returning.
01:28:57
Speaker 2: Did you throw it?
01:28:58
Speaker 13: No? I didn't, I said it. I I might put it on the account with yeah authority, like here's the letter, here's the envelope. He wanted to get the envelope. I still got the envelope with my name and correctly written y'all the post office, we y'all know my name. It seemed bogus to me. That's what I had to go inquire about. How come the wrong name is on the letter to mail to this address every day, even though isn't.
01:29:28
Speaker 2: The responsibility of the post office there it came from the address.
01:29:34
Speaker 13: Typically nice if you're gonna put it, yeah, okay, So anyway, hold.
01:29:41
Speaker 3: On, we've we've gotten we've gotten mailed at our house.
01:29:47
Speaker 5: That's it's not ours, but it has our address.
01:29:53
Speaker 2: Current.
01:29:54
Speaker 13: You know, there's not the mail and I'm not the nicest person, so it's got a nervous for me to go up to some people's house. So I.
01:30:04
Speaker 5: Here's what I do when I've gotten Well, here's here's what I do. I won't I won't give it to them because some of my neighbors I don't know. So what I'll do with just right on not at this address and you know, put it back in the mailbox or either drop it off at the post office.
01:30:21
Speaker 13: And the person lived right across the street from me, and it was their address in my mailbox, and I asked them, did you know, Yeah, that's me. I'm like, well, here's your address over here, but I here's your mail. That's how I addressed it. But then you know, I didn't say nothing about that. But then other mails start coming. I'm like, I can't go to everybody's house. I'm not delivering mail, so I let they go. But then when you send mail from the post office, I can't even tell you what the letter and tail because they took it back from me. They said I had a brown dog. My dog is black all day long and on the chain in generally inside. And then and then the insufficient address. I've been living here forty years and there's always been an address posted.
01:31:09
Speaker 3: Sometimes it can happen, they can.
01:31:11
Speaker 13: Get Yeah, I'm attesting to the fact that it can.
01:31:15
Speaker 2: Did you get arrested for trespassing? Is that what happened?
01:31:18
Speaker 13: I was told not to come back down. What you know what? First time IVER got trespassed was in twenty three four when I was headed to my mother's funeral and I got, uh got jipped out of gas and they once called called a log. Now I know how to add so that police officer I went down had it for the Indianapolis Police Metro Police Department to come because it was O shame and at the speedway, and so when he came, I had already gone down to the Lawrence Police because I thought, well, somebody gotta be helpful. Lawrence is helpful a race. They have been trained to deal with situations. But they weren't even open that day. So I went back to the speedway and the police officer told me if I didn't get off the lot, and he was threatening to lock me up and told my car I've been robbed once. Now I'm threatened with come on now, can you at least hear my side? Get back?
01:32:18
Speaker 9: Then?
01:32:18
Speaker 3: You you must you live in the Lawrence district.
01:32:22
Speaker 13: Nope, in this gentrified or trying to gentrify up the street from homie angels living there over here, over here. A New Year's day, it was a New Year's eve. It was eight police cars outside my house for you, for you? How are you outside my house? Is what I said. I don't know. I walked outside outside my I told him a back and went in the house. A happy new Year. I know all y'all didn't come out to tell me happy news here, Please be real. Eight police cars.
01:33:04
Speaker 2: Well, what were the.
01:33:07
Speaker 13: People shoot? They don't generally even be in our neighborhood on New Year's Day. You can't find a police officer. But they was all outside my house.
01:33:17
Speaker 2: What did they say?
01:33:18
Speaker 3: What?
01:33:19
Speaker 13: Happy new here?
01:33:21
Speaker 2: That was it? There was a gang of eight police are not.
01:33:25
Speaker 13: A gang, but it was a gang.
01:33:27
Speaker 1: It was collection, a collection of eight police officers, eight police cars and.
01:33:34
Speaker 12: Car.
01:33:34
Speaker 2: They just wanted to stay outside your house and say.
01:33:37
Speaker 13: Hey, I'll pull it up alongside my house. I don't know for what. It was near midnight. I'm like, I went out there because now I've been over here for a while. So I went out because I'm like, who who they have to because they're on the side of my house. Yeah, okay. So when I went out, they was approaching my porch. I no, I can't. They can't do this again. No, so I when it I walked, I was headed to my house in the door, and they happiness here. I turned around and said, yeah, a happy New Year. To YouTube. I think I took a picture of it, and you.
01:34:14
Speaker 2: Were able to go back in your house and enjoy the new year.
01:34:17
Speaker 13: All was the reason for them all being out there. It's harassment, it's one thing after another ever since. Well, yeah, I don't.
01:34:25
Speaker 2: I don't understand that unless.
01:34:29
Speaker 13: You No, y'all couldn't discuss the teenager. But I'm sixty six years old. I didn't have all kinds of incidents. Uh, it's just amazing one after the other for a long while, and it's getting to be worisome. I mean, you ain't scaring nobody. They ain't scaring nobody. But the fact remain. I can't even think I'm gonna call the police if I see something, because they've been the chank me out of my house and I'll be sitting in jail. And that's a fact.
01:35:04
Speaker 1: But they didn't take you to jail New Year's and they didn't take you to jail at the post office.
01:35:08
Speaker 13: So I ain't doing nothing to go to jail in any of them cases. But they are still consistently in my purview, up in my faith, outside my house. Uh No, No, I just don't need their assistance after making a report.
01:35:29
Speaker 1: Wait, Joyce, it's been numerous incidents.
01:35:34
Speaker 13: I can go through them all.
01:35:36
Speaker 2: But you on New Year's Eve, did you make a report?
01:35:40
Speaker 13: No? Didn't, did not call them all. I learned on June the twentie if not to call them all.
01:35:48
Speaker 5: Have you ever gone to police headquarters to make a file of what's that on?
01:35:53
Speaker 13: Just this way?
01:35:59
Speaker 3: Just the center?
01:36:00
Speaker 2: Isn't it just center?
01:36:02
Speaker 13: That would be just this way? Yep, had to go out there. I've been spending much time out there.
01:36:08
Speaker 2: Have you What did you have to go out there for? Joyce?
01:36:12
Speaker 13: It wasn't in reference to the post office. It was I think I told you when it happened, when I got out about how I was attacked and then a gun pulled on me, and then yeah, all that And I'm just walking my dog. That's all like rufus Thomas, just trying to walk my dog. I don't I'm not sociable. I don't need to say nothing to nobody, and I don't I be talking to my dog and walking. People want to ingratiate it.
01:36:40
Speaker 2: You know that song shed Yeah, walking the dog?
01:36:45
Speaker 13: Yeah, got it?
01:36:46
Speaker 2: I know, Well somewhere, it's here, somewhere, it's in the building. It's here.
01:36:51
Speaker 13: Okay, I don't know. You said, have I been to Justice Way? Yeah, and the first time I got h what what is it? Wait? Where I can't go back on the location truspassing. I had to go to a large police to ask what this inteil? That man just threatened me and told me if I didn't leave my cars, then get told they just stole my money. But you can't hear my side. You got all these out, well, who you representing? Shouldn't you hear both sides before you make a determination?
01:37:21
Speaker 2: Joyce, I'm trying to hear your side now.
01:37:26
Speaker 13: At that time, I would think that when he was called, he would listen to both sides. That's why I was gonna ask the chief what kind of training they get to They can't document. Maybe he didn't want to write a report, but I still have that trustpass, whatever case number was on there. Every time they do something, I want to speak to your supervisor. And then then the incident in June, when I asked mek to the supervisor, he don't want to talk to you. But if they have on body camp, so that would be seen, uh huh, and that would be determined at a later date. I'm sure. That's why I don't want to speak too much on that incident. But one after the other. I mean, in February, my car was obscounted. The towd man would not drive my car because I only had three one hundred dollars bills and it was two eighty. I should have tipped him twenty for getting me home, but I didn't know all that was gonna be necessary. He gonna tell me to do something over the phone. I was born in the fifties. I don't know how to do that. But I asked him if he wait, I call my daughter and she come help me. He drove off with my car. Uh. And then the next day, listen, what what's our life? It's gonna be a testimony in the end, Tina through it all.
01:38:43
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to follow. I really am. You're right. I do get lost.
01:38:48
Speaker 13: I know I lost to Tina.
01:38:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to find you know, so somebody took three You couldn't my car.
01:38:55
Speaker 13: In February, after I left the Indiana Art Museum, some call with in front of me. I avoided it so I wasn't running back of it cause it they was fast. It was Corvette Kmeero black jumped in front of me. I know they got rolled high cameras on the highway. They could have seen that, but the police was there. Johnny on the spot asked me I'm okay, I'm all facing traffic against the wall. God bless, I didn't hit nothing, thank God for that, but the wall. And then I figured if i'd get my car home, which was less than right up there on sixty five and I'm over here right off for yeah, right off the highway yep. But he he didn't have change for he couldn't give me a twenty ooh, I mean.
01:39:41
Speaker 2: What so y you y? Are you saying the toll truck.
01:39:45
Speaker 13: Two hundred and eighty dollars and I only had three one hundred dollar bills?
01:39:50
Speaker 2: Okay?
01:39:51
Speaker 13: Are we together on that?
01:39:52
Speaker 2: No, we're not.
01:39:53
Speaker 1: Let's keep one dollar, Billy, I don't understand me.
01:39:58
Speaker 13: I didn't understand either. I'm in you cash, and you don't want your.
01:40:02
Speaker 2: Car was disabled? Right?
01:40:04
Speaker 13: It had to be told they was up against the wall, one of them there.
01:40:08
Speaker 2: Okay, that part I didn't understand.
01:40:10
Speaker 13: Okay, the car oncoming traffic.
01:40:12
Speaker 2: You call a toad truck and the police was.
01:40:15
Speaker 13: There, Johnny on the spot, right behind me.
01:40:18
Speaker 2: Okay, how did the tow truck driver get there?
01:40:20
Speaker 13: It was there right behind them?
01:40:23
Speaker 2: How they you asked him?
01:40:25
Speaker 13: I'm tied t and I did not mean to raise my boy. I'm just I don't know. I didn't know.
01:40:31
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, go ahead.
01:40:36
Speaker 13: The life and time.
01:40:38
Speaker 2: Thank you about you know.
01:40:45
Speaker 1: We we gave her the time today because we're so you know, this caller accuses us all the time of rushing her, of not listening to their side of the story, of not following with what she said.
01:40:57
Speaker 2: What did you follow?
01:40:59
Speaker 9: All that?
01:40:59
Speaker 3: I was trying, but I couldn't. I was I couldn't follow.
01:41:05
Speaker 1: I from the post office getting you know, trespassing.
01:41:10
Speaker 2: That trespassing.
01:41:11
Speaker 1: Usually someone usually accuses another person of trespassing if they've been told not to come in. And the reason that you're told not to come into a federal building or a government building is probably because of some kind of a conflict or most I guess.
01:41:28
Speaker 5: I didn't follow Hi. Well, I wouldn't have been able to answer any.
01:41:33
Speaker 1: No and putting down the letter with authority that had the wrong anyway, Joyce, I'm sorry. Joyce has run ins with law enforcement. Well, they're not always positive that happens.
01:41:49
Speaker 3: And what can you do?
01:41:50
Speaker 5: I mean, you really nothing we can do. We gave her a chance to talk about it.
01:41:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just trying to follow to see where where it all went.
01:41:58
Speaker 3: I couldn't follow I.
01:42:00
Speaker 2: I where the toe. Somebody has to call a tow truck. You can't just get and they don't ask for cash on the spot.
01:42:06
Speaker 5: So I was thinking maybe there was an accident. She had an accident, and so the truck was there at.
01:42:12
Speaker 1: The wall, at the wall, and the tow truck was right behind her. Yeah, doing what I mean, the tow truck been following her.
01:42:21
Speaker 2: Wait, waiting on a crash.
01:42:24
Speaker 3: I don't know, a good question. Sometimes that was the That was.
01:42:29
Speaker 1: The whole I mean, because tow truck drivers are summoned to the scenes of accidents, and I have yet to have one asked for cash on the spot. Now, they'll ask you your insurance card, if you have triple A or what have you, and then they'll take and then you settle up at wherever you know. But I've never and I could be wrong. Now, I'm not just saying just because it never happened to me doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
01:42:57
Speaker 3: Well, I never had that happened.
01:43:00
Speaker 2: Well, that's two of us. Not that way, not that way.
01:43:03
Speaker 3: It's like you said, insurance card, triple A, that's.
01:43:06
Speaker 1: What they'll last for vehicle you know, some cars to buy them, it comes with the complimentary toe services.
01:43:14
Speaker 3: Sometimes you get that.
01:43:15
Speaker 1: That could be a part of you know, Chevrolet or you know, we give you this toe.
01:43:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. I was hard to follow there.
01:43:23
Speaker 1: But been two hundred and eighty dollars and she only had three two hundred dollars bills three three one hundred dollars.
01:43:29
Speaker 3: Right, so three hundred, but it was three eighty.
01:43:31
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she said too. I think she said to eighty.
01:43:35
Speaker 1: She should have gave him a twenty dollars tip instead of not having the exact shoe.
01:43:38
Speaker 3: I wasn't following. I was trying to follow. I was trying to follow there.
01:43:42
Speaker 2: So anyway went off the rails, off the roils. But we did learn something today in that video.
01:43:50
Speaker 1: Officers were investigating on a report of a stolen stolen guy stolen or maybe was it report of a stolen gun or the gun was laid are determined to be stolen, It was later determined later determined to be stolen stolen. Yeah, okay, but anyhow, congratulations to Chief Terry. I'm sure we will be talking with Chief Terry yes again, and hopefully this incident will be uh will be I don't know what you call it.
01:44:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, resolved, resolve it, uh.
01:44:27
Speaker 2: You know, uh yeah, we'll see. Somebody was charged, that's true.
01:44:33
Speaker 3: Charged and being under age, you can't say.
01:44:36
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine that the officer is going to escape with nothing, Neither can I.
01:44:41
Speaker 3: There's gonna have to There's.
01:44:42
Speaker 1: Gonna be consequences on both ends. I guess, so both sides.
01:44:46
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's all the time we have for right now. Thank you for joining us.
01:44:51
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Speaker 1: Please continue to be safe, be well, and of course stay in for him. For all of us here, Eric and me, I'm Teina Cosmy in. This is community connection
Speaker 1: The paper of the Star and a lot of other folks. Did you hear this mysterious up kidnapping of NBC Uh Today's show anchor Savannah Guthrie, We have our mom.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, her mom. Uh. They just I mean just now released. See that picture?
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, oh yeah, that's the.
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Speaker 2: Person, well a person of interest of interest.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but he's completely covered.
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Speaker 4: And but here's the thing that I just thought under sand with people who are really really smart call themselves taking down the security systems, do.
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Speaker 2: You not know that.
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Speaker 1: You can give picked you as you approach the system. And there's another image with him holding his hand up him.
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Speaker 2: I guess it's a him.
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Speaker 3: That's a good good point, you know, it might be would be.
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Speaker 2: Could be a she. I don't know. It looks like a male.
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Speaker 1: But this is interesting in that why didn't they put this out the first day? They had to have had it, yeah, or at least a second day, you would.
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Speaker 5: Think, and you mentioned you wondered, I think last week, how much is she worth? Is she is it an amount of money that she's worth or is there some connection?
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 1: A friend of mine called and asked that very question, and he looked up Savannah Guthrie's networth worth, her net worth eight million dollars. They were asking for six million by five o'clock yesterday.
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Speaker 3: They didn't get that, or they haven't heard.
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Speaker 2: Didn't because they don't have her.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, And I don't know. I don't know what her mother's networth is or was. Yeah, she apparently lived in a million dollar home in this community where a lot of the homes are dollars or.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah they are, But.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just I'm just trying to figure out.
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Speaker 3: The it's just very odd, weird. It's just how do you.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing was that I heard yesterday morning.
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Speaker 2: I didn't. We didn't get to it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: But they you know, some of the analysts were saying on one of the early morning shows, this is an early early morning show that the note from the kidnappers said six million dollars usd uh, and so that led them or that would tend to make you think that whoever wrote the note is not is it's an internationals to tag two dollars? You know, people that live or in this country community, you know, we want six million dollars.
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Speaker 2: We don't say you is SD do't that's true, and so they.
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Speaker 1: Seem to think that that might be a clue or some insight into who may have done that, just because they probably another clue that they didn't realize they were dropping, just like you don't realize that you're you will be recorded as you walk up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And you know they take down these the lights, now I don't some of that what was it some of the floodlights were taken down, I guess I think so, and that enhances video, you know, visibility as well. So, but yeah, this is this is just breaking. I mean, not more than three minutes ago did the authorities release this this picture. Now, this person Eric is fully masked.
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Speaker 3: Fully you can't see only gloves, gloves.
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Speaker 2: Fully closed.
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Speaker 1: It looks like jeans and a backpack or something strapped.
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Speaker 2: Something as strapped.
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Speaker 1: We couldn't see what it was, but there's two straps, one on each shoulder, so you would have zon mm hmm, maybe a backpack.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I'm just thinking disconnecting the alarm system. That would have to be well, I don't know. Maybe they had access to the garage. I'm not in the end of theirs and.
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Speaker 3: The the whole story, didn't they say?
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Speaker 5: Initially she was at dinner with her other daughter and son in law and they dropped. Now me, I'm the kind of person if I were dropping my mom off, I'm going to walk her to the door into the house.
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Speaker 3: That's just how That's how I am.
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Speaker 1: Especially if her mobility was compromised exactly as they said that she she couldn't get around really well, so they would just drop her off something.
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Speaker 5: Now for me, I'd be, we'll be I'll be right back to somebody if you wait, and the car will be back.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't let her walk on alone.
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Speaker 5: And then I'd be checking the house out of habit alarm system or not, security system or not.
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Speaker 2: I should say, yeah, well, security alarm, I'm.
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Speaker 5: Going to check the house, make sure everything's secure. And it seems they just let her out and rob off.
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Speaker 3: Maybe in a habit maybe maybe.
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Speaker 5: And there sometimes can be a I think, a false sense of security in certain places. Those things they never happen here, but that happens only in this city, that.
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Speaker 2: Only other place.
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Speaker 3: Other places.
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Speaker 1: If there is one piece of sound that just drives me absolutely up a while down and back up the wall, it is I never thought anything like that would happen here, that nothing like that ever happens here. There ever happens, It can happen anywhere anywhere.
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Speaker 2: There we go.
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Speaker 3: There it is full of gloves. There's another shot.
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Speaker 2: You can see what's that in his hand? Looks like.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't tell. Those look like almost like boxing gloves.
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Speaker 1: They do, don't they Well it might be the way he's hold Well, wow, we're we're just describing this as we're seeing it, right.
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Speaker 3: So you could see the eyes, that's all you can see.
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Speaker 1: That just the coction of the eyes, And that was intentional to so that there would be no identifying features. But you know what, I think that there's some FBI equipment that is so well so advanced that hey we got the eyes.
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Speaker 3: Yea, the eyes were able to go from there? I would bomb sure they are.
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Speaker 5: What was the show I used to watch all the time c S I, the whole series, They had all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure we have.
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Speaker 2: It now, Yeah, Yeah, I'm sure we do. Yeah. I mean, why would they wait so long?
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Speaker 5: That's a good question, unless I don't know, they thought it was crowdsourcing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they.
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Speaker 5: Thought it was key evidence and they didn't want to release it yet, they didn't want to spoil things, mess up things. But I hope, I hope they find her alive. I hope that that's the outcome and get to the source of this.
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Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing is, are we to conclude that there was only one person involved?
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Speaker 8: Now?
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Speaker 3: Good question?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that what we should conclude that? And was this person coming into the house or leaving?
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Speaker 9: Now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would assume they were going in because they were the pictures that we got.
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Speaker 2: They were trying to disarm mm hmm, the alarm. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: That's well, that's just there.
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Speaker 1: One of those you know mysteries. It is and wow, and the longer it goes on, the less.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing, the longer it goes on. And she's on medication, yes.
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Speaker 1: And has but you know, that was another point that somebody made that I hadn't been paying attention to. Apparently she has a pacemaker. Yes, that's what some of those have track.
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Speaker 5: I mean I thought so, well, I think it was her her her watch. There was a connection to that, and I think her watching well that was left behind.
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Speaker 2: I think somebody knew her then, they knew her.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like it.
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Speaker 1: They even though something that a detail that that minute that your pacemaker is attached to your.
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Speaker 3: There was some connection.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so not looking good.
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Speaker 1: No, so somebody that knew about the pacemaker and the watch and the locator services on that.
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Speaker 3: It's a lot of detail.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the pain.
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Speaker 3: You know, the exactly.
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Speaker 5: But you also would think too, I don't know how the neighborhood out there. Obviously it's it's vast, I would imagine, so neighbors are probably not right next door, but I would imagine they have cameras. Neighbors had to have security cameras of a vehicle coming into the neighborhood that might be unusual that they've not seen before. Maybe that's on footage somewhere of the person who of interest.
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Speaker 2: Unless it's the usual vehicle.
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Speaker 3: That's true too, it be usual. Look at us, Yeah, right.
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Speaker 1: Here find out I just you know, we haven't mentioned it much, and it's it just it's worrisome for me, I just because when things don't make sense, there's.
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Speaker 2: Usually a reason for that.
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Speaker 3: That's true, usually a reason.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, but that's the latest that just came out moments ago, and I don't know if anybody here in Indianapolis might be able to take a look and help out. But at least at least you'll get an idea.
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Speaker 3: And see find out hopefully what's going on.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, today is indeed Tuesday, February tenth, three one seven, four eight zero is the number to the show.
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Speaker 2: Again. The warm weather is the big story right now. Maybe not the big story, it's one of them. It's warmer.
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Speaker 3: It's warmer.
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Speaker 2: That's for the first time in weeks.
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Speaker 3: Oh it's I think it's fifty two right now, is it? According to the National Weather Service and Sonny. So there's gonna be a lot of melting.
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Speaker 2: You need to get one of those one of those car washed things.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you can drive through as much as you.
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Speaker 2: Want them to be cost effective.
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Speaker 5: I do, especially as much as I drive, and the dirt and sometimes if it's not the dirt, it's the droppings from there our friends flying over, and I think it is you if you need to go through five times and one day you can same doesn't cost anything more.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen those those those videos on social media where people are being hauled out of all you can do places because they're camping out and they're they're standing on this is supposed to be all you can eat, and that's what you said, so you I can see some legal challenges. Oh I'm to something like that, but I've been to all you can eat buffets that had restrictions.
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Speaker 3: I have to you can't take anything home.
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Speaker 2: You can't take anything home.
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Speaker 3: You have to have it right there, and then you.
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Speaker 1: Have to in order to get there. Was it was one that was all you could eat seafood and sushi buffet, and they had it locked down pretty tightly because you had to get a certain dish I think, and then after that you could get one or two at a time.
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Speaker 3: You couldn't just couldn't go.
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Speaker 2: No, they doled it out too.
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Speaker 3: Oh they doled it out. Okay, So that's how they kept control.
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Speaker 2: That's how they controlled abortions. That's how they did it.
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Speaker 1: Phone yeah, yeah, three zero thirteen ten. On the show today, the newly appointed Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department's Chief of Police, Tanya Terry, joins us Lots to talk about there this was an historic appointment, of course, first female to lead the city's police department, probably the largest police department in the state of Indiana.
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Speaker 3: I would think, Oh, I'm certain.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, she's got a lot of responsibility. Anyway, she's going to be in our second hour, so we're looking forward to speaking with her about that. You know a lot of times people that make history like that, they don't necessarily want to.
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Speaker 2: Talk about the history. I want to just get to the job.
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Speaker 1: And then again, as we said before, she hadn't been three days.
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Speaker 2: Into the job, and here's something, here comes something, so they I guess they're working on that as well. Anyway.
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Speaker 1: Also, as you know, February is Black History Month. So here's some black history on this date, February tenth.
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Speaker 2: Back in nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 1: Six, President Gerald Ford Gerald R. Ford issued a message recognizing Black History Month, becoming the first president to do so. I did not know that. Yeah, February tenth, nineteen seventy six, President Gerald R. Ford issued a message recognizing Black History Month, and he became the first president to recognize it. Now, Reagan signed it into law. But for yeah, wow, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm sure it was Reagan.
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Speaker 5: I did, yeah, because he would have been yeah harder than Reagan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Reagan. And I was always surprised about.
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Speaker 3: Reagan Reagan doing that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was Reagan probably would have been the consensus.
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Speaker 2: I wonder what.
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Speaker 3: That signing it into law. Run, Well, that's.
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Speaker 5: Something that would have been was that Would he have done that in nineteen eighty Reagan eighty five or four?
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Speaker 3: Somewhere in there.
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Speaker 2: November two, nineteen eighty three, you were good close, I was close.
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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan signed HR. Thirty seven oh six into law establishing the third Monday in January as a federal holiday in honor of doctor Martin Luther King Junior. The bill which created the first federal holiday for a black American was signed in the White House, Rose Garden. Well that's gone and first observed in nineteen eighty six. So he signed it in eighty three and they we started observing it in eighty.
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Speaker 3: Six, eighty six.
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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But Black History Month was recognized, and I remember King's birthday was always recognized. Even when I was growing up, it was recognized, it just was never formal in formally.
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Speaker 2: So well, good for him, Good for Ronald Reagan. That's the one thing I'll always remember Reagan for.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's the great communicator, is what they say. Yeah, So Anyway, the moment, as they say, was decades in the making. As we shared earlier, nineteen twenty six, historian, author, and activist doctor Carter G.
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Speaker 2: Woodson introduced Negro History Week.
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Speaker 1: Woodson, who had founded the Association for the Study of Negro Life and History now the Association for the Study of African American Life and History ten years earlier, chose the month of February to honor the birthdays of two prominent abolitionists. They are Frederick Douglas and Abraham Lincoln, whose birthdays were in.
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Speaker 2: The month of Fibrty.
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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, anyway, holiday national recognition in the sixties when activists in the Civil rights movement brought the Negro History Week to college campuses across the country. Now, also on this date in black history, February tenth, the United States House of Representatives passed the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. They passed it after a seventy two day filibuster.
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Speaker 2: Wow wow, yeah, you.
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Speaker 5: Think about it, Tina, that's not been that long ago. No, that's not been one hundred years.
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Speaker 3: Ago, barely sixty years ago. That's not that long.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The bill the House passed it after seventy two day philibuster. The bill later passed the US Senate on June nineteenth, nineteen sixty four, So February tenth, the House got it after a seventy two day philibuster, passed it several couple of months later. The Senate passed it on June nineteenth, the final vote two ninety to one thirty in the House and seventy three to twenty seven in the Senate. The Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on July second, nineteen sixty four. Wow, so the ball got rolling on this day in history in nineteen sixty four. It started rolling in the right direction because the House passed it after it wasn't easy.
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Speaker 2: Seventy two day filibuster.
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Speaker 3: That's seventy two days.
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Speaker 1: Seventy two day, thirty sixty that's more than two months.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seventy two day filibuster.
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Speaker 1: And as we were discussing yesterday, for those who do not know or may be confused, the Civil Rights Bill of nineteen sixty four was a bill making it illegal to discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, and prohibiting segregation in public places and prohibiting employment discrimination. Nowhere in there does it say we're gonna pick on white people.
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Speaker 3: That I can say nowhere, I don't let me look at it again.
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Speaker 5: Look at that again. I'm going to adjust my glasses or make sure I don't see that.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not there.
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Speaker 2: Don't y'all fall for that.
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Speaker 3: No, not in there anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little bit of black.
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Speaker 1: History there, nineteen sixty four, nineteen sixty four. So but yeah, February tenth was the date to get the get this thing going.
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Speaker 2: Finally. And you know it's when you look at the vote.
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Speaker 1: Bipartisan activity in both the House and Senate is possible.
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Speaker 3: It is. It happened there, Yeah, so it could happen again.
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Speaker 2: It can happen again, so it certainly could happen there.
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Speaker 3: We go.
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Speaker 1: So there is our Black History Month moment. Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.
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Speaker 2: Again.
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Speaker 1: Three one seven, four eight, zero thirteen ten is the number to the show. As I was saying, as we were just a few moments ago before we found and looked at that breaking news, pothole season in Indianapolis is in full swing for early We're still early twenty twenty six. Now this is from the Department of Public Works. Over nine thousand potholes have been filled since January first, and where what February tenth?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nine thousand thousand.
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Speaker 2: Can you believe that?
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Speaker 3: I can really, I can't believe, well, you mean filled. I'll put it this way. I can believe they're nine thousand.
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Speaker 2: I believe they're ninety.
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Speaker 3: And that's just to get to night. I believe the ninety.
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Speaker 5: I think I said yesterday we could probably call Indianapolis the Pothole.
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Speaker 3: King because there was a year was it last year? Year before?
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Speaker 5: Was it the New York Times or New York Post We made a cover story where it's at Indianapolis had the worst streets in the country or something like that. Some station potholes were just you know, everywhere, which.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was true.
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Speaker 1: Nine thousand, nine thousand since January one, And it says due to intense freestyle cycles. I don't know how much thawing there was, but not much lawing, not much thawing at all.
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Speaker 2: But today you said it's fifty two.
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Speaker 3: That's what it says right here from the Weather Service that's at the airport. Let me, let me adjust it again. Here, let's say, yeah, fifty two, fifty two.
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Speaker 5: And sunny, a few clouds, and this will be the warmest day of the week.
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Speaker 2: It looks like okay, that's good.
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Speaker 1: It also says heavy wet weather accelerates road damage prohibiting or prompting, rather prompting, which means making, for instance, a twenty twenty five surge of sixty four thousand plus repairs by early March.
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Speaker 2: So it looks like we're going to be over that.
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Speaker 1: I think so, so between January one and and early March in sixty I mean in twenty twenty five, sixty four.
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Speaker 3: Thousand, sixty four thousand.
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Speaker 2: Sixty four thousand early March.
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Speaker 1: Residents can report potholes at the Request Indie website or the Mayor's Action Center. Now Here are some of the key details. Here's some of the guidance that they are offering report early. Major roads are prioritized, while neighborhoods may experience longer waits, making prompt reporting essential for repairs, which often take one to two weeks.
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Speaker 2: So are they.
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Speaker 1: Saying, I guess they're saying the insidant you see it, get online or get on the phone and calling.
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Speaker 3: Probably so I would think so. But I'm sure you've noticed too.
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Speaker 5: There seems like there are some areas that get attention much.
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Speaker 3: Sooner than others.
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Speaker 2: James says that I've noticed that.
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Speaker 3: It's like, why that area not this year?
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Speaker 5: Certain roads that are for me that surprise me, that really needed attention, Kessler.
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Speaker 3: In certain places, it's like you're driving along all of a.
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Speaker 5: Sudden, there's a massive pothole between Meridian and Michigan Road. Sometimes some pretty big potholes. I've seen through there, and it's like, and I'm saying, because that's a road that used to always be so smooth, you know, no potholes.
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Speaker 1: I think Meridian thirty a Street north is better taken care of than Meridian thirty a Street south.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, heading south, yeah, heading north, you're going.
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Speaker 3: North, Yeah, you're.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you got to It's.
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Speaker 3: It's better taking me, I think so.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the state Governor's residence is right there, not too but a few blocks from thirty eighth Street. So reporter early request dot Indy, let me see make sure I want to get it correct.
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Speaker 3: I have, I had I had it in my hand.
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Speaker 1: I had it in my hand too, because I don't want to give out improper websites.
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Speaker 5: Just the roads are they need to and if there were on them, that's great, that is good.
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Speaker 3: I've seen some We've seen somebody.
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Speaker 1: I've not seen a single road for working on. The only crews I've seen have been working on snow removal and pushing snow aside.
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Speaker 2: I have not seen. I have not seen any road crews repairing, repairing potholes. Just haven't. I'm sure they're out there.
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Speaker 1: If they've done nine thousand since January one, then okay, they've done nine thousand since January one, I don't doubt that, but that means there's probably.
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Speaker 2: If they did sixty.
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Speaker 1: Some thousand, sixty four thousand between January and March of last year, and this year is expected to exceed that nine thousand, yeah, that's it's not a whole whole lot, then, I guess.
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Speaker 2: And then again maybe it is.
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Speaker 9: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Seems to me there could be a solution. I think in Germany other parts of the world, they take old tires, shred them up, mix it into the asphalt, and supposedly that makes it more off.
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Speaker 3: The right word is appliable, but it lasts longer. Really it lasts longer.
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Speaker 5: You don't find yourself with the situation we have, I don't know if that would work here. Someone suggested now a long time ago, why not take old tires instead of putting him in the dump, grind him up, mix it in with the asphalt and I they still put steel belts and tires in that, but all of that could help the asphalt to hold together better.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you know, if it works for Germany. I wonder if we've ever considered it.
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Speaker 3: I've heard that that Germany does. That's a good question.
00:24:45
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 1: We can go back to the phone lines, but before we do, let's go ahead and get our commercial break in.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do that, and then that way we won't.
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Speaker 1: Be interrupted or rush the collar. So let's go to our breakthrough one zero thirteen ten. We'll go back to the phone lines right after this, and.
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Speaker 2: We're back with community connection.
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Speaker 10: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Hot holes Uh this season, No, seriously, they're saying.
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Speaker 1: Get on them right now, get them reported right now because the thaw free cycle, the first one is, you know, now in the thaw stage, and so crews can get out there. Request dot Indy dot gov Request R e q U E S T dot Indy dot gov, or you can call the Mayor's Action Center three one seven three two seven four six two two three one seven three two seven four six.
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Speaker 2: Two two.
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Speaker 10: Here.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well let's go to the phone line because there's a there's another provision of all. This is kind of frustrating as well, Brian, go ahead, how are you?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 11: Good afternoon. So I worked to a family wake up in Detroit for the initial snow storm that all the snow is still residing on our lawns. They don't have that issue. Cincinnati doesn't seem to have that issue. Chicago, I've been up to Chicago recently as well, doesn't have this issue. But yet still we get this propaganda. All these the so called conventions and entertainment venues are bringing in, but it doesn't add up. It's like, and where does your money go? You're talking about nine dollars one of the TV stations reported, and then I'm like, that doesn't.
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Speaker 9: That doesn't.
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Speaker 11: And to keep gurgitating the same propaganda that up because Indiana, you get what you paid for. Everybody costs. Let's to talk about the costs of living, well, you get what you pay for. And that's what it seems to be the case, because, as you've stated before, the street line markings are diminished in addition to potholes.
00:27:31
Speaker 1: And it might be a little bit more frustrating than the potholes themselves.
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Speaker 2: Because at night, at night, at night, those markings are non existence.
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Speaker 11: Like driving, there are multiple If you travel out of downtown and get on sixty five northbound, the numerous amounts of so called interstate lights on sixty five going over White River are out. It's like, where's the money? He yes, I know they're in charge, but it's like, how comebodies nobody is holding them accountable because it's ridiculous, But why do I have to drive in the dark? In the dark? It doesn't that up. And they want to talk about world class city this it's like they're not even close. They're not even closer. Now they want to build the stadium, the SCCER Stadium. It's like, well, where's the other's money coming from? Has opposed the regular individuals that reside in the city. And as you say, certain certain streets seems to get fixed, seem to get fixed. I'm looking at it with my own eyes. And as they say in the old children's book The Emperor has no Clothes. I don't care Republican or Democrat, but it's way beyond, way beyond time for somebody to ask the tough questions, just like I stayd before. You're not doing anything but reshuffling the chairs on the depth of the Titanic. With regards to bop or or what's her name, she's already had her SHOT's let let's get some new impusion, new blood, because the same thing keeps happening over and over, and what do they call that?
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Speaker 9: Insanity?
00:29:10
Speaker 11: If you expect different results with the same people, it's dumb. And one last thing I was going to say is it just doesn't make sense that people are status quo or or are good with what's going on, and then it's time to stand up. But nothing ever gets changed unless somebody stands up to these these people. I don't care. That's it, regardless of party affiliations.
00:29:44
Speaker 9: And to see that.
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Speaker 11: I can go up and down sixty nine without a problem, all the way into Detroit, not an issue. And their weather is more severe than ours, that's true, And that there are times Chicago's the same way that they they they are out and there on it. But but they are they using a better quality substrate, uh chemical, not chemical, but uh concrete.
00:30:12
Speaker 3: It's a magic.
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Speaker 11: And it's beyond beyond the pale with regards.
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Speaker 5: Today, Brian, go ahead, you go, you go. I was just going to say, I I think I've said to Tina before. We are the our gas tax is the fourth highest in the nation behind uh California and Pennsylvania.
00:30:36
Speaker 3: Illinois. Then it's US and.
00:30:40
Speaker 5: We're the smallest state in the Midwest. So our roads to me should be pristine, both interstate and in the city.
00:30:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be two different I don't know about the how in DOT and.
00:30:57
Speaker 2: DPW work together.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: Do it all any at all, and who does a better job.
00:31:04
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I'm just saying the street light issue alone, it doesn't.
00:31:10
Speaker 3: Make any sense.
00:31:10
Speaker 11: Thirty thirty eighth Street is the same way coming southbound all sixty five onto thirty eighth Street when you get when you get the White River there there are no lights on over the bridge, and it's it's like, well, who's in charge of that? And it's like why is nobody ever calling anybody out? And and everybody wants to go along, to get along and then they're talking about building like I said that this upteen million dollars soccer stadium, and it's like a no, because the trickle down economics is what's affected to me. The mindset Democrat or Republican and this they think that just because you build this, that that all of a sudden, these resources or or revenue is going to be generated. But it doesn't show me on the streets that I'm driving on. So something something's amiss. And until people wake up and realize I don't, Like I said, I don't care Democrat or Republican. If somebody can get it done, let's get it done. But as far as I can say, the world class city moniker that everybody likes to talpers like, it's not even close, not even close, not even close.
00:32:22
Speaker 2: All right, Brian, appreciate your card. Okay, all right, thank you.
00:32:26
Speaker 3: See it might be time to I don't know if this is possible. Maybe state officials, city officials.
00:32:34
Speaker 5: He gets some advice from other places, like he mentioned Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Ohio. What do you do so that you have fewer potholes in your city? What is it the mixture that you use? Because one thing that I find kind of weird. I found kind of weird. I was talking to a guy who owns a company where he does patios.
00:32:57
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question.
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Speaker 5: Is it good to have built new Interstate out of whatever concrete or asphalt and then put salt on.
00:33:07
Speaker 3: It or chemicals on it? And where he said, no, it's.
00:33:10
Speaker 5: Not even good to build it in the winter time that it doesn't necessarily set, doesn't get really set properly.
00:33:15
Speaker 3: That's what he was saying.
00:33:17
Speaker 5: Wow, So I thought, maybe that explains why even on new pavement down here on seventy West, coming into the.
00:33:24
Speaker 3: North Split, there's a pothole or two there, and that's new.
00:33:28
Speaker 1: Well, they build your round, that's true. You know what they're they're pouring, and they're they're doing year round. But but I mean to your point.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: When it's freezing cold or below, I don't get it. I don't understand.
00:33:42
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I know Chicago doesn't have higher trade. The one thing I think I shared this with you.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: A friend of mine in Chicago was saying that they have when there's a snowstorm or whatever, which is why they don't shut down schools a lot.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: They've got a system.
00:33:56
Speaker 3: Have a system.
00:33:57
Speaker 1: Dedicated uh, dedicated stations and they know exactly how many flows go to station A station B stations and they it.
00:34:05
Speaker 2: Runs like clockwork.
00:34:07
Speaker 1: They don't they don't hire contractors or high subs.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: Or anything like that. They just, you know, they just know how to do it.
00:34:13
Speaker 3: Never understood that.
00:34:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, Like, hey, I guess if I were a mayor, I wouldn't be too proud to say I'm going to ask the mayor of Chicago or they collaborate all the time. What is it that how do you your streets are this we're having this issue with our streets?
00:34:27
Speaker 3: What do you recommend?
00:34:29
Speaker 1: You know, mayors from other cities are called to talk to different police departments of the job. Yeah, they collaborate. I think that that you know, hey, tell us more about your model. Can you come and share that with us? And perhaps that's something maybe that the council should consider because they're the ones that appropriate the funds, okay, and so if it's not adequate or it's not going to hold up, but it's going to cost more money to go back and do what you're already spent money doing, maybe it's in the best interest of the council to hear some alternatives before or they okay, the money for something that's not going to hold up.
00:35:04
Speaker 5: Alternatives certainly necessary because we get the cold weather and the temperature changes.
00:35:08
Speaker 3: Here and there and up there off the lake or Chicago.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: I mean, they really get Cleveland, they get they get that Canada.
00:35:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was it last year.
00:35:20
Speaker 1: The year before last, we drove up to My nephew was playing CFL and so we.
00:35:25
Speaker 2: Just went across the border. Uh and and well you know you're just.
00:35:29
Speaker 1: Close to Detroit and my father didn't want to fly, so we all got in a van and drove. But anyway, Canada as cold as it is, Canadian air, you know, they always talk about that cold Canadian air, this snow and everything. They move up this season dates for football, and football is an outdoor sport. They even have those dates strategically placed so that they don't run into the severe extreme winter.
00:35:56
Speaker 3: Wow.
00:35:56
Speaker 1: And what I say this to explain that as we were dry being on the highways Christine beautiful, h h beautiful. Yeah, and I'm like all the snow and the Canadian air and all the stuff that, Yeah, no signs I did.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: We did not hit a single pot none.
00:36:17
Speaker 5: I've been to Canada a few times in Montreal through their same thing.
00:36:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were in Toronto, Toronto, Christine.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: Christine, beautiful, beautiful streets, all of it.
00:36:30
Speaker 3: It's just just just is maybe something to look into. Yeah, yeah they should.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: Yeah in the three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.
00:36:46
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phone lines that Jeff, go ahead, how are you.
00:36:50
Speaker 9: Hey, Jana, Eric, how you guys doing?
00:36:52
Speaker 2: Thank you well?
00:36:54
Speaker 9: Good? And I talked to you. I mentioned it to Eric. I ran into a monster pothole. Oh about the airport.
00:37:04
Speaker 2: Wait on the way to the airport. Was it on on seventy.
00:37:08
Speaker 5: Right John on Minnesota on Minnesot Street, on Minnesota Street, Minnesota.
00:37:14
Speaker 9: And I have a little side, Yeah, I have a little side hustle where I do a lot of transporttaging materials.
00:37:20
Speaker 8: And man, tell you what the airport airport is, you know, the last caller a lot of ballotport.
00:37:30
Speaker 9: You know, we got the lottery here.
00:37:31
Speaker 12: There's some of that money supposed to go back to to go back to the school we know, and I go.
00:37:38
Speaker 2: The schools. It's not the schools. Huh we lost you?
00:37:45
Speaker 3: Jeff, still there Jeff, go ahead.
00:37:47
Speaker 9: Yeah, whatever, But yeah, but where are some of that? But yeah, can you hear me?
00:37:54
Speaker 2: Uh some going in and out, kind.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: Of dropping in and out.
00:37:59
Speaker 6: You, oh, we lost him live radio one thing.
00:38:14
Speaker 2: We know he'll.
00:38:16
Speaker 3: And this is live radioses. What happens. It's beyond control and it is live.
00:38:21
Speaker 1: But yeah, there it just the the the inattention, seemingly in attention to seemingly it's ongoing, nagging, nagging, nagging problem.
00:38:35
Speaker 2: It's you know my answer.
00:38:37
Speaker 1: You need a potholes are I've said that somebody that does nothing but potholes in the administration, nothing.
00:38:42
Speaker 5: But the damage to your vehicle that can happen. I doubt it's going to be easy to get the city to.
00:38:51
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The city reportedly and and I guess for the record, does have a provision for if your vehicle is damaged by potholes.
00:39:07
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, vehicle damage.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: I thought so, but right here, oh okay, I see. Yeah.
00:39:12
Speaker 1: If a pothole causes damage, residents can file a claim for reimbursement with the city. The twenty twenty six season has seen an early start due to rapid temperature fluctuations between freezing and going, often requiring crews to switch between snow removal and road repair. And that's according to WTHR and WISHTV. Now our WRTV a few years ago did a deep dive into how many of these claims were actually paid.
00:39:52
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's.
00:39:54
Speaker 3: What I was driving at too.
00:39:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many were actually maid? If you were, if I'm not mistaken, and I'll look it up and somebody's going to correct me. And that's fine if you do. But my recollection is fewer than twenty percent of these things are paid.
00:40:09
Speaker 5: Really, yes, Wow, I think I kind of thought that would be the case, because I would imagine you've got to prove that it had happened in the city.
00:40:22
Speaker 2: I think the bar is quite high.
00:40:23
Speaker 5: Where when, and make sure you have proof your vehicle wasn't already damaged in some way.
00:40:32
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine it's.
00:40:33
Speaker 5: Going to be an easy process if you have to say, well, I'm going to final a claim, here's what happened.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: I have to I guess if you had.
00:40:41
Speaker 5: Built in cameras, you know, underneath your car, around your car, kind of like what tesla. I think some Teslas have cameras all over the place, maybe then you could easily prove it. Here's the video driving along both.
00:40:53
Speaker 2: Oh I was I was way high?
00:40:55
Speaker 3: Oh were you away?
00:40:56
Speaker 1: Hana rarely pays for pothole damages to cars, with reports indicating that in some areas like Indianapolis, fewer than two to ten percent claims are successful two to Now it says compensation requires proving negligence, specifically that the government knew about the pothole and failed to fix it within a reasonable time. That's almost an unbelievable that's there's my point, ridiculous threshold.
00:41:23
Speaker 3: How can you prove it? But they knew, But.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: There's money, there's money to pay it. There's money there to pay it. They just don't pay it out.
00:41:31
Speaker 3: So well, yeah, Brian said earlier, where does that money go?
00:41:36
Speaker 6: Then?
00:41:36
Speaker 2: Where does that money?
00:41:37
Speaker 3: Where is that going?
00:41:38
Speaker 10: Yeah?
00:41:38
Speaker 3: Only two percent?
00:41:40
Speaker 1: I I know it was a two I thought it was fewer than twenty percent, And.
00:41:44
Speaker 3: You said, you know, I'm thinking, oh, well that's yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker 2: And it was a really good report.
00:41:49
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's about three maybe four years ago WRT, because we.
00:41:53
Speaker 2: We shared that on the show as well. We shared that, so my goodness, unbelieved.
00:42:01
Speaker 5: Wow, And there's a lot of people that have had. Well, you talked about the issue you had with potholes.
00:42:07
Speaker 1: The only reason that I'm not more upset is that I did pay extra for an extended.
00:42:13
Speaker 2: Warranty okay, okay, which was you know, was.
00:42:16
Speaker 1: Ten dollars a tire to extend the regular warranty. And the regular warranty that comes with your new tires is one that what do they call it? It's a graduated right after so many months and after so many miles, it only pays up to this point to where at some point in time it becomes useless, become absolutely yours. So the extended warranty gives you the no matter what, it doesn't have the graduated decline that the factory warranties have with tires. But yeah, about a brand new set of tires and in less than a year had to replace three of them. The fourth one is still going, I guess, but had to replace three.
00:43:00
Speaker 3: If you didn't have that warranty. And there's some people driving.
00:43:03
Speaker 5: Older cars, SUVs, trucks who don't, and then it has to come out of pocket. Tires are not cheap drive and wheels rims uh. You can spend a couple of thousand something like that.
00:43:19
Speaker 2: Is Jeffy is Let's go back to Jeff.
00:43:24
Speaker 9: Hey, you know Jason, Yeah, technology is something else. But anyway, but uh, but anyway, I just over a bunch of chuck holes. Uh over Hendris Avon Brownsburg Way, and their streets are nice, I mean nice. I've been to Hamilton, nice street. What is it about Marion County and then we can't get our streets together.
00:43:44
Speaker 1: I just want to know folks from Hamilton County and Hendricks County are in here driving on our roads.
00:43:49
Speaker 2: I'm not paying taxes to keep them up.
00:43:54
Speaker 9: Mike Brown, well, Mike Braun and his in his neil Nazi, uh Lieutenant govern need to get on the ball instead of worshiping Trump at the altar. But anyway, but I want to say this real quick, this is going back. You know, you know I'm gonna get political here.
00:44:10
Speaker 12: You know, your alma mater just won the national championship and foot in college football team here, we just had.
00:44:16
Speaker 9: A Seattle Seahawks just win the Super Bowl. Now, these guys they got black athletes on there. You know when they do their little annual, their little traditional visit to the White House whatever.
00:44:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, he buys the McDonald's yeah, well, anyway that was those black athletes, I was boycott.
00:44:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, if that was those black athletes, they should boycott because if he thinks that Barack Obama and Michelle Obamber a bunch of apes, guess what do you think about me? Uh? Me, you, Tina.
00:44:47
Speaker 12: And and uh Eric and uh and and all the other black folks.
00:44:52
Speaker 9: They he think we're all a bunch of apes. You know, he looks like an Oranger team. But you know they should boycott because he because the way he sees Baraco is the way he sees them. Okay, and you know if you see.
00:45:04
Speaker 12: Me as a chimpanzee, and white folks don't go down this rabbit. But comparing black people the ages, because if you really want to get technical about it, well, ain't Scott's damn lips.
00:45:15
Speaker 9: You cut their hair off there white complexted. You know, they got white skin and they got differentiates the colored vines. So white folks don't go down that rabbit comparing black people they hate.
00:45:23
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
00:45:24
Speaker 12: That's a that's an old trope, you know, to justify slavery and Jennie ci colonialism and imperialism, and so I.
00:45:31
Speaker 9: Ain't comparing white folks and aches. But don't buy into that trope. Okay, white folks, don't, no, don't go there, and don't This ain't come for me. This has come from Eddie Murphy.
00:45:39
Speaker 12: There's a little thing on seeing when he was on Saturday Night Live and he was presented with the same question, why are black people?
00:45:46
Speaker 9: Why are black people compared to eight?
00:45:48
Speaker 12: And uh well, I'm gonna let mister Eddie Murphy explain that to everybody. But it's on Google and you'll find on YouTube and you might find it entertained Tina and erics. So uh So, anyway, if all those black athletes, go visit your mother, go hang out with your girlfriend, go to Walmart, but don't go to the White House.
00:46:05
Speaker 9: Don't go to Walmart. Boycott now, but don't go to the White House. If he thinks you're an eight, then you know what why should I you know, why should I pay you a.
00:46:17
Speaker 3: Visit?
00:46:17
Speaker 9: You know? And just what you think about me? Yeah, and that's why Stephen A. Smith's Snoop Dogg and Byron Dust he thinks the same way about you.
00:46:25
Speaker 2: Have a nice day, all right, appreciate it? Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Interesting whether or not we haven't heard of him. But I'm I mean, you know, how.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: How fresh can three hundred hamburgers be if you McDonald's to the White House, to the to the reception.
00:46:51
Speaker 2: Room and all that other.
00:46:53
Speaker 5: I was not even enough to think, maybe they're prepared, prepared, they're.
00:46:57
Speaker 2: In the White House somewhere McDonald's.
00:46:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean different.
00:47:01
Speaker 5: Maybe McDonald's, I don't know, had somebody come in and prepare them. That's what I thought at one time.
00:47:08
Speaker 1: Oh of course, yeah, okay, remember when he was invited to the White House and they had all of this stuff sitting out. That stuff sits out for a while, is they're preparing, and then they have to do, you know, do security. And he ended up he drank one too many doctor peppers. He couldn't believe how many doctor peppers he had. But I say that to say that there's just so many factors influencing Now. If they catered it, the White House catered it, they can control it. But if you go and buy it from somewhere else, and then you institute all of the security measures and do all this other stuff, it's gonna get cold.
00:47:46
Speaker 3: Yeah makes sense.
00:47:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rubbery French fries and a cold burger and that's.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: What he bought you, that's what he liked. So wow, yeah, but you haven't heard anything. I don't even know that he's going to invite him to.
00:48:01
Speaker 2: The White House because sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. But that, you know, that would be interesting, that would be But back.
00:48:08
Speaker 1: To the to the potholes though, do the best she can, and it's it's disheartening. I know our our friend Lifestyles with Eric has had some tremendous damage to his high performing sports cars as a result direct result of potholes and has never been able to be reimbursed by the city.
00:48:27
Speaker 2: He was given the run Yeah, yeah, he's he shared that with us. He was given the run around. He has a he has a podcast.
00:48:34
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's said about it lately, and we haven't heard from him for a while.
00:48:38
Speaker 2: On the show.
00:48:39
Speaker 1: But when the next time he calls in, when he does, I'm going to ask him about that if he ever got any money. So it's it's almost a joke like if you if your car's damage, go ahead.
00:48:51
Speaker 3: File yeah, file go ahead and see what happens. What happens, you know, chance.
00:48:58
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to figure on how that two got paid.
00:49:02
Speaker 3: But that's just that's wow.
00:49:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:49:06
Speaker 5: And there are potholes. I mean, you know you see them. I've seen them. They're all over the place. You're trying to dodge of this dodge and sometimes right in the driving lane you can't get around it. If somebody's next to you, you end up driving through it. Or if there's of course, if it's rained, they're full of water.
00:49:24
Speaker 1: Not enough water, because I yeah, when I hit one and it tore up my tire and it was raining and there was water there.
00:49:33
Speaker 5: When you can't see them, I mean they're full of rain. You can't see them there. They're full and until it's too late.
00:49:37
Speaker 2: Until it's too late.
00:49:38
Speaker 1: And you know what drives me crazy about tires too, uh And I get it, I guess because I don't understand. But there's a very I mean, some tires you can have repaired, some you can't. Most of the time, when you hit a pothole, it's going to be on the outer or inner wall of the tires.
00:49:59
Speaker 2: It's not to be a dead center.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: And that's the only place they can repair a tire dead center, Yeah, because if on the outer wall or the inner wall, well you need.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: A new time new tire. That's right, you're right.
00:50:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:50:12
Speaker 1: And so I was like, can you plug this? And there was one I had that was just right on the board. I said, put a plug in that, ma'am, ma'am, I'm sorry, I just can't. I'm like, please, no, camp because it wouldn't be safe.
00:50:27
Speaker 5: And if you have low profile tires, you know what that's like very a small, very thin sidewall.
00:50:34
Speaker 3: Do you have really big wheels.
00:50:36
Speaker 5: If your wheels are oh what twenty two to twenty three inch, your sidewall has got to be thinner. And you hit a pothole with that, your wheel's gone. Your tires got done too.
00:50:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. So there in goes all of.
00:50:49
Speaker 1: The joy of driving in the city of Indiana.
00:50:53
Speaker 3: That's the joy.
00:50:54
Speaker 2: But the good thing is.
00:50:55
Speaker 1: It's not going to I don't think it's going to be raining for a while. So be able to see and you know, the next time we have an opportunity to get a city, county councilor in here, I think they're they're gonna they're trying to rotate several ends so that our listeners can get an idea of who their representatives are, and I think that's great.
00:51:16
Speaker 3: I think too.
00:51:17
Speaker 2: You know, Counselor Lewis wants to.
00:51:18
Speaker 1: Counselor President Lewis wants to get more people involved, so that would be good. But yeah, so it is puddle season and again, request dot Indy dot gov, request dot Indy dot gov if you want to go online and report it, or you can call the Mayor's Action Center. Three one seven three two seven four six two two three one seven three two seven four six two two is the number there.
00:51:46
Speaker 2: So there we have. Oh okay, go ahead, say and how are you?
00:51:53
Speaker 13: Oh okay.
00:51:55
Speaker 10: Some folks say, oh, she must be a Democrat. My father tell me about peoples that have a character.
00:52:02
Speaker 13: Listen, So if.
00:52:06
Speaker 10: There have been times I've voted Republican and sometimes I've voted Democrats, Okay, they been talking about that, and I don't care what you are, but listen, part holes in Indianapolis of the fifty sixth, I say, we're number fifty, and I'll tell you what I voted for. Hot set, but our hold, our pot holes have gotten worse. First time when I drove off is a lot in twenty twenty two and six months I was listing, I had to take a car back just for the check, and I have bulbs on three of the cars. It was not because there was a defect because of the streets. I remember how much I paid. I had to pay four.
00:52:56
Speaker 9: Six months in on in the.
00:52:57
Speaker 10: Car, four hundred and six see sixty dollars and some change to replace three cars. I mean replace three cars. So I replaced the three cars. You know that's a down payment another car. Then again I was driving and hit a pow hole crossing uh sixty second in Alisonville.
00:53:20
Speaker 13: Okay, to my tire.
00:53:22
Speaker 10: Called my cousin. He said, I'm coming over. He said, I gotta take off this tire. That's fair. I'm like it was a different car though, and I oh, before I got the one I got now. Then recently on Christmas Eve. On Christmas Day, I was with my family and following my daughter home because their lights were out in the back. So I decided, I'll just go go down Michigan Road. Okay, I'm going from seventy ninth going south on Michigan Road. Like I'll shoot, I'm gonna be safe. It's Michigan Road. Wrong tena this food? Oh I got by this time, I was like it was about one o'clock.
00:54:03
Speaker 13: Called I hit like when you talked about the rains.
00:54:09
Speaker 10: Okay, here's the thing, why, heart said, are you doing the same cep fag that.
00:54:14
Speaker 9: Did years ago? And follows get worse.
00:54:18
Speaker 2: You know, You've been one.
00:54:19
Speaker 9: Little thing and then you drive over the.
00:54:22
Speaker 10: People drive over, you know, and then you know it's hot, so it starts pickens and wheels to make the bigger bottles. I mean that it doesn't make sense. Do what what's right? Get the right stup.
00:54:34
Speaker 13: Now.
00:54:34
Speaker 9: Something that was so mayor far creek.
00:54:38
Speaker 10: I think it's far craze yard of Boulevard, but it was a street over there on the east side, and when somebody used something with a tar and it was like zig zag maybe didn't a little trickier, you know, but hey, you know what, Uh, then zig zags have been holding all this side. I'm just saying, if you're going to do the work, do it right, alright, and stop making the potholes that you cover up with mess. But they start to come up, but you can common sense and use the right stuff. No I can't.
00:55:10
Speaker 9: I can't deal with this.
00:55:12
Speaker 14: Uh.
00:55:12
Speaker 10: Four times and then after dropping followed my daughter make sure she was okay.
00:55:17
Speaker 2: I going home.
00:55:18
Speaker 9: We celebranted Christmas Eve.
00:55:20
Speaker 10: I'm going down Michigan Road before I get to Walmart. It's dark. I'm about to turn down there now, so so I can tell you if it was dark and I had a pole.
00:55:34
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.
00:55:36
Speaker 10: Have you guess what fort the rim of my car? Tigrim?
00:55:40
Speaker 2: Have you reported these?
00:55:43
Speaker 7: No?
00:55:44
Speaker 9: What's the use?
00:55:45
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's worth a shot.
00:55:49
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I've been doing that and nothing happened.
00:55:53
Speaker 2: Reported and had the damage and everything.
00:55:57
Speaker 10: Oh please, then I go pay for that. I can't wait. I can't wait six or seven months for the city to so called pay for something like. I got to get around and do what I got to do now. Now they don't pay anybody.
00:56:11
Speaker 7: You know.
00:56:11
Speaker 2: I'm hard.
00:56:12
Speaker 11: I'm done.
00:56:13
Speaker 10: I'm done. You called me with a fork. Okay, okay, all.
00:56:17
Speaker 2: Right, Sam, thank you very much for your call. Appreciate it.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: I tell you what, one of the most emotional things is ever to come to this show all the time.
00:56:27
Speaker 2: There is sixty day that's I.
00:56:30
Speaker 3: Don't And the thing is the area.
00:56:33
Speaker 5: She mentioned parts of Michigan Road other streets too in the city. They've been patched and repatched and repatched. It's like, can't you just strip it out and repaid the whole section.
00:56:44
Speaker 3: I know it cost money, but.
00:56:49
Speaker 2: There you have. We'll be back right after this.
00:59:02
Speaker 3: Mh mhm.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: H m hm, and we are back with community connection. Uh here going into our second hour and uh Eric.
00:59:19
Speaker 3: Interesting mm hm oh yeah, that was that's a subject. Talk about that all afternoon.
00:59:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could, uh, but we got to keep going.
00:59:34
Speaker 2: But no, I think we do need to keep it. And I would like for more people.
00:59:37
Speaker 1: To what's that what's that strategy they use at the White House? Flood the zone and keep submitting those reports and submitting those requests for reimbursement.
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Uh, it'll force attention to it.
00:59:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, as far as I you know, I don't know what may or may not be done, but it will at least force attention and show that the community is serious about it and getting them reported is really really Yeah.
01:00:02
Speaker 3: The website, the phone number just flooded.
01:00:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, let them know.
01:00:08
Speaker 1: Let's see a week and a day ago today. A week ago yesterday, city of Indianapolis made history by appointing their first ever, our first ever female chief of Police from the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department. She is here with us now on Community Connection. She is Chief Tanya Terry, the newly appointed chief of Police for the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department. Chief Terry, welcome, how are you today?
01:00:38
Speaker 13: Well?
01:00:38
Speaker 14: Thank you, Tina. I really appreciate you inviting me on to the show today so we can connect and talk with the community.
01:00:46
Speaker 7: I'm doing well. How are you?
01:00:49
Speaker 2: I'm doing well.
01:00:50
Speaker 1: I'm not in the police business, so I think I'm okay.
01:00:54
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. That's a toughie. So how long have you been with the department?
01:01:00
Speaker 7: Twenty seven years?
01:01:01
Speaker 2: Twenty seven years?
01:01:02
Speaker 3: Okay?
01:01:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, and I'm sure that you've talked about this and you've got a statement out. But I just wanted to hit on this very quickly as we get into the other things. But you were not even what three days old or four days old before major controversy hit involving one of your officers and a police stop with the juvenile.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play it. I'm not gonna play it.
01:01:28
Speaker 1: But the officer was heard swearing at the juvenile suspect he was talking to, threatening to f and kill him before the traffic stop. The other side is IMPD had received information that students maybe had a planned protest with firearms, and they say the officers saw a male juvenile enter a vehicle with a gun before initiating the traffic stop. One of the juveniles was arrested for dangerous possession and so on and so forth. Friday night, Like I said, you weren't very old. You know, you didn't have a week under your belt. Friday night, the department released a photograph of the gun and a statement. Part of the statement read, Chief Terry. While the video does not show the entire incident, some of the language herd does not reflect the standards or values of the IMPD accountability. IMPD accountability, I'm sorry of the IMPD accountability rather is essential to building trust and legitimacy within our community. The involved officer was equipped with a body worn camera which recorded the incident, and internal review is underway to determine the full circumstance of the encounter. So, Chief Terry, the community part is what I want to get at. So what is the latest on the case. Is there any update that you can give the community regarding what's going on with that?
01:02:43
Speaker 7: Well, I cannot.
01:02:44
Speaker 14: I'll say this first, I have to navigate a very fine line between following the law surrounding confidentiality and incident surrounding miners. Yeah, however, we have had engagement with our community members to try to provide additional context surrounding this traffic stop.
01:03:05
Speaker 7: And you you waid.
01:03:06
Speaker 14: It out fairly well. There were certainly a couple of things going on with this situation that are of concern and should be of concern to all of us. First and foremost, I acknowledge and we are investigating the language used by our officer towards the driver of the car that, as we said in our statement, is not how we train, is not the expectation that we have on our officers, even when in tense situations and moments. We expect officers to provide commands that will direct somebody's behavior and tell them what we want them to do. And that's what we should be trained to, what we do train to, and what we strive for on the.
01:03:55
Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead.
01:03:56
Speaker 14: On the flip side of that, Black was mentioned in the state. The video that was made public by social media is also an It's an incomplete video, and I'd like to just point out that the reason that the officer's attention was drawn to the vehicle and the occupants was based on the conduct and the behavior of those occupants. The fact that a youthful appearing student was in possession of a firearm and got into a vehicle was a concern and was also confirming information that members of the community who were concerned about.
01:04:37
Speaker 7: Safety reported to us.
01:04:39
Speaker 14: So we had a due diligence to ensure safety of those that are exercising their first Amendment right.
01:04:47
Speaker 7: We take that very seriously, so we want people to do that in a safe way, and.
01:04:53
Speaker 14: Miners with firearms is not a safe situation for anyone.
01:04:56
Speaker 1: So these have been determined to be minors. They were not eighteen because is the state law, people or residents over the age of eighteen are allowed to carry without a permit. So these were established to be juveniles for sure.
01:05:10
Speaker 14: Well, I can tell you that we made an arrest of a seventeen year old for a dangerous suggession of a firearm.
01:05:17
Speaker 1: Okay, I get that. Two other questions, what does an internal review entail? And you talked about the body worn camera video that was shot. Any timeline on when that might be released.
01:05:29
Speaker 14: So a couple of things. Let me talk about the process first, and then I'll talk about the body worn camera footage. The process has two potential paths when an officer falls short of policy or expectations. Number One, if we as an agency recognize something that needs to be investigated, we can certainly initiate an investigation without anybody alerting us to some conduct.
01:05:56
Speaker 7: We have a lot of.
01:05:57
Speaker 14: Internal processes, some balances that review our officer conduct on a regular basis. Certainly, the fact that this incident was posted on social media and garnered a lot of attention, it was not very long before our agency became aware of the incident. I immediately initiated an internal investigation based on just what we saw in the social media video.
01:06:24
Speaker 7: So that also goes to our Professional standards unit.
01:06:28
Speaker 14: Internal affairs is a common reference to our professional standards unit, and they have initiated that investigation to evaluate the entire incident in its entirety, both before and after the events captured on the online social media video. The other path that a complaint where an investigation can take is by somebody reporting an incident or conduct to the Citizen Complaint Office and we call that CPCO, and we encourage anybody who has concerns about any officer's conduct to raise those concerns, and that is a civilian oversight board that we cooperate with, so a complaint can come in through the CPCO, and then that is also routed to our Professional Standards divisions for investigations. So that's the process, the two paths that a process can take. Now regarding the video, and I mentioned this in my initial remarks, because this incident involves minors, we have laws that we have to follow about juvenile records and confidentiality, and the laws not allow us to release that bodyworm camera footage as much as I would like to, because I think it would certainly tell a more complete and full story of the events surrounding that incident, but we're not at liberty to do that because of researching legally, not.
01:08:01
Speaker 2: Even a portion of it that doesn't involve a juvenile.
01:08:05
Speaker 14: No, the entire incident surrounds the juvenile arrest.
01:08:09
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the juvenile.
01:08:11
Speaker 1: Okay, So, as far as chief, what are your options regarding the officer? I guess from training to recommending dismissal or recommending firing.
01:08:22
Speaker 2: What are your options as chief?
01:08:24
Speaker 14: I'll tell you one thing that is important to me, and I treat this the members of the public. I make it a point to treat members of the public with dignity, respect and fairness, and I will do the same thing with our officers and follow the due process that's involved, and the investigation will be completed. It will follow the remainder of the process.
01:08:48
Speaker 7: It will be evaluated at.
01:08:49
Speaker 14: Multiple different levels, and at the end of that, there would be a disciplinary recommendation made.
01:08:55
Speaker 1: Made to you, yes, and then you will have the option to decide what that recommend what that disciplinary action should be as far as the recommendation.
01:09:05
Speaker 14: From you, yes, based on any sustained violations that are found during the course of the investigation.
01:09:11
Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's just concerning. And I know that it was you know, welcome to to being chief. But by the same token as you were saying, the the trust and the confidence of the community that this is going to be handled correctly in a fair and efficient way is also important as well, because when it goes spiral like that, there's a lot.
01:09:37
Speaker 14: So absolutely we recognize that the deep impact that hearing words like that out of a trusted, trusted member of our police department is hurtful. We understand that, and I know that we have a long road to go ahead of us to repair relationships and regain trust.
01:09:57
Speaker 7: We want our young people and our.
01:10:00
Speaker 14: Community not to be afraid of the police. We want young people in our community to be safe, and we want them to trust the police and know that we are somebody that they can come to for guidance. And sometimes sometimes that guidance involved correcting behaviors.
01:10:18
Speaker 7: But at the same time, when we.
01:10:22
Speaker 14: Fall short of expectations, I recognize that trust is impaired and we have work to do on that front. It's important to us to continue to regain that trust.
01:10:34
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you can tell us about the officer? Is he still on the street or is he you know what?
01:10:41
Speaker 2: We need the investigation. What's going on with that?
01:10:43
Speaker 14: Do you know we have we've modified his daily duty to remove him from contact with the public at this time.
01:10:50
Speaker 7: So we as we move through this O process.
01:10:54
Speaker 1: All right, Well just yeah, so yeah, I got it a little bit clearer, pick sure, because you were saying that the video that went viral was a portion of the entire incident, So maybe the you know the fact that the officer went from zero to one hundred in no time at all. Are you saying that there's some video that we have yet to see that could possibly.
01:11:20
Speaker 14: Be well, I can, I can. I've seen the body worn camera footage.
01:11:26
Speaker 2: Okay.
01:11:26
Speaker 14: I can tell you that there was very respectful dialogue between both the occupants of the vehicle and the officers that initiated that traffic stop, including the officer that used the language in question, and the initial The initial dialogue was very respectful and productive. There was also instructions that were given to the occupants of the vehicle about time to get out of the car, what to do with their hands, and instructions to follow. I can tell you that at least two of the occupants of the vehicle did not follow those instructions, and that changed the dynamic of the encounter.
01:12:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:12:06
Speaker 2: Uh, well, we will we be able to see that.
01:12:09
Speaker 14: Well, I've just I'm telling you that the video that's been released on social media doesn't show everything, and we are not Yeah, we're not legally able to release that.
01:12:20
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
01:12:21
Speaker 14: I'm sure I certainly would love to.
01:12:24
Speaker 7: I certainly would love to.
01:12:26
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, we'll get we'll certainly keep an eye on that. I'm sure that that's not what you were thinking your first week. So how did how has your for your your chief a week and a day? How has outside of that, how has everything gone?
01:12:42
Speaker 14: It's been, uh, certainly a growth period for me, maybe a little bit quicker than I had anticipated or expected. But at the same time, UH, that is my responsibility. I am the faith of our police department. I accept the responsibility for the actions of all of our officers. And at the same token, one of the good things about that is their good work also is a reflection of me. And there's a lot of good work that goes unnoticed by our officers, and when one of us falls short, unfortunately, it usually makes the news and it takes away from a lot of the good work that officers are doing every day. As a matter of fact, just prior to the Chief Bailey stepping down and my appointment, we were honored to attend several award ceremonies where our officers risked their lives and jumped into cold water to rescue and save lives, entered burning buildings, talked a suicidal person off of a parking garage ledge and recognize that kind of selfless work that's.
01:13:52
Speaker 7: Done every single day.
01:13:53
Speaker 14: So it's both a privilege to serve in this role and certainly also a learning experience, and twenty seven years in the job. Nobody keeps doing this for twenty seven years if they didn't have passion and care and concern for our community.
01:14:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:14:12
Speaker 1: I was about to ask you about that, because did you ever, at any point in time during your twenty seven year career think that you would become the chief?
01:14:24
Speaker 3: You know?
01:14:24
Speaker 2: Was that an aspiration? Was that a goal? And how do you.
01:14:31
Speaker 1: Want people to view the historic nature of the appointment.
01:14:37
Speaker 7: I'll tell you.
01:14:38
Speaker 14: I was a young beat officer that worked on the North Side in the Crownhill neighborhood for many years. I worked at night, primarily to start my career, and I had so much fun and I took so much pride in trying to ensure that.
01:14:57
Speaker 7: When our community members and residents.
01:14:59
Speaker 14: Went to sleep, even business owners went to sleep or closed up shop for the night, that I was out there, driving up and down the streets, getting out of my car, engaging with people even in the middle of the night, to make sure that the next morning, when they woke up, everything was the way that they left it.
01:15:17
Speaker 7: That was my mission. I took it very seriously. I still take it seriously to this day.
01:15:22
Speaker 14: And no, I never thought that I would do anything else on this police department except for that be a beat cop, maybe be a detective, things like that. I always saw myself as a worker bee or a street cop. So I actually promoted late in my career, after about fifteen or sixteen years of being a patrol officer.
01:15:44
Speaker 1: Was there any point in time, because I'm sure they had contacted you about accepting the appointment, was there ever a point in time when you thought, I don't think I will do this, or did you ever think no, or even we working in flicked it about it at all.
01:16:02
Speaker 14: Well, I can tell you I've been here since second grade. Indianapolis is my home. I consider myself to have been raised here. I'm a graduate of Lawren Central High School on the east side of town. My wife is on the police department, and we are raising our two teenagers here in Marion County as proud residents of Marion County. That is important to me. And so yeah, I had to have critical conversations with my loved ones about the commitment that it would require to do this job and do it correctly and to make myself available to members of the community, make myself available to the officers that need.
01:16:51
Speaker 7: To have time with me.
01:16:54
Speaker 14: Is going to undoubtedly take away from my family time, and so without their support, could not have said yes. So certainly critical conversations took place.
01:17:05
Speaker 7: And we navigated that as a family.
01:17:07
Speaker 14: And ultimately made the decision that we would do this together.
01:17:11
Speaker 1: So it was never a thought of no, but rather well, how can I make it work?
01:17:17
Speaker 9: Yes?
01:17:17
Speaker 14: Okay, careful configuration first, because that's not just me that's involved.
01:17:21
Speaker 2: No, No, it never is.
01:17:22
Speaker 1: It never is. Things like that impact family's entire family. You know, when you when you accept positions, especially in law enforcement, which is a world in and of its own. So uh, Former City County Councilor Duke Oliver has a question for you, Chief.
01:17:37
Speaker 15: Thank you so much to thank you so much to have there on.
01:17:40
Speaker 7: Thank you, Chief.
01:17:41
Speaker 15: I met you two weeks ago and I've seen you at Thecourage the meeting last week. Thank you so much. My question is thank you for your service, but my question about ice, the relationship or legal legality of ice in your did in the city of the annactress. Can they uh you we have an instruction from the mayor can they if they are if they are investigating, if you are investigating me or anyone? Can ICE come in and move your weight, move one of your office way, say we're taking over?
01:18:21
Speaker 9: Can they overwrap? At two points?
01:18:28
Speaker 7: I can try.
01:18:29
Speaker 14: I don't know if I fully understand the nature of your question, but I think you're asking if ICE can supersede a local law enforcement investigation. Do I have that right?
01:18:41
Speaker 11: Uh?
01:18:41
Speaker 2: He just tongue up.
01:18:43
Speaker 14: But okay, Well, I'll do my best to try to clarify our roles, and I'll say that local law enforcement I MPD.
01:18:54
Speaker 7: Uh.
01:18:54
Speaker 14: We do not participate, nor have we been asked to participate in immigration enforcement at activities That is a function of the federal government and not a function of local law enforcement.
01:19:06
Speaker 7: And as the chief of police.
01:19:09
Speaker 14: Our priority remains our community here in Indianapolis and ensuring.
01:19:15
Speaker 7: Their public safety.
01:19:16
Speaker 14: Our focus remains driving down violent crime here, being committed and present here to our people, and focusing on our daily duties.
01:19:26
Speaker 1: Federal and local officials, though law enforcement officials, often work together, and perhaps I think his question was will IMPD if ask work with ICE and other federal officials representing it, will that happen?
01:19:40
Speaker 14: I will tell you that we follow the laws. We remain lawful in our actions, but we do not participate in immigration enforcement activities.
01:19:50
Speaker 7: Now.
01:19:51
Speaker 14: We do have multiple federal agencies that we partner with when we have a common investigation involved, and our focus is local law enforcement is on addressing crime and criminal activity and local and state laws. Our focus is not on enforcing federal laws. If there is a federal law violation, we may work with our federal counterparts to conduct an investigation. Maybe it crosses state lines, Maybe there are federal resources available to use federal technology or other resources that we don't have access to as a local agency, and that is not uncommon for us to do. We have several task force officers that are assigned in various units like drug enforcement, gun enforcement, and that is something that yes, we are engaged with federal partners on that front, but we are not engaged with federal partners on immigration enforcement.
01:20:50
Speaker 1: And chief As far as the community, and you talked about gaining community trust, what's your plan, vision, mission, so to speak, in terms of your new administration and the community, especially as it started out so roughly on such a note as the viral video traffic stop.
01:21:13
Speaker 14: Sure trust and transparency, and I think that we can attempt to repair that through accountability, as we've talked about already, clear and consistent communication. I've made myself available to members of our community to talk through this incident, to share perspective, to hear anger and frustration. I think that's important, and continuing to partner with our community members to continue to build and sustain that trust. Public safety is not something that can be achieved just with the police alone. We rely on community partners constantly, and some of those conversations that we've had even since this incident last Friday, are surrounding how can we partner with some of our community members to get through to our kids prevent this type of thing from happening. And I clearly not diminishing the action or the conduct of our officers, but there are other things to consider as well, and underlying that brought us to that situation in the first place, which was a sole and fire in our arm being in possession of kids. We've got to address what's happening with our young people. We had a seventeen year old shot over the weekend. Don't know the circumstances, so why are our kids around these guns. They are getting hurt and we've got to do something about it.
01:22:40
Speaker 2: We'll keep talking to his chief.
01:22:41
Speaker 1: Congratulations again on your historic appointment. You can come back anytime. We'd love to have you on. And again, thank you for talking with this congratulations.
01:22:52
Speaker 7: Well, thank you, Tina, and I'll come back again soon.
01:22:54
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Takes sure you too.
01:22:57
Speaker 1: And again that was newly appointed IMPD Chief Tanya Terry.
01:23:03
Speaker 2: She was open and honest with us. I just learned that.
01:23:07
Speaker 3: That gun was stolen. I didn't know the idea.
01:23:10
Speaker 1: Was stolen, stolen, stolen, So there's another there we go. Yeah, she's being transparent, I guess. Anyway, more community connection is coming up.
01:23:21
Speaker 2: We'll be right back h m hm, and we're back with community connection again.
01:23:36
Speaker 1: Just had a a good conversation with the incoming Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Chief of Police. I think she was as transparent as she could be, uh not excusing the behavior of the officer and adding a little more context to what was going on, explaining why were not able to see video because one of the suspects is seventeen and that makes them a juvenile, and.
01:24:08
Speaker 2: That the gun was stolen. We haven't heard that anywhere I have. First it was the first.
01:24:14
Speaker 1: You know, she said a juvenile carrying a stolen gun. Well, so apparently it has been established that the gun was stolen, established that there was a juvenile. It has not been established what is going to happen to that officer who threatened to f and kill the kid.
01:24:33
Speaker 3: But that's established.
01:24:35
Speaker 1: That's but an investigation into him is underway and he is no longer out there having runs with the public. He's apparently doing some administrative stuff and not not his depending the results of the investigation and recommendations behave. You know, recommendations are going to be made to her, but she will have the final say so as to what she will decide to do. So that's kind of tied up as neatly as we possibly could. Uh again, her administration is a week and a day old.
01:25:10
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so's it's for.
01:25:12
Speaker 1: Three days and she got sworn in on Monday and this happened Friday evening. Yeah, so four days old, four days old old.
01:25:20
Speaker 5: So we'll see, and she's willing to come back on oh yeah, yeah.
01:25:25
Speaker 1: You know, I can honestly say that Bailey and Taylor and now, uh, you know, Chief Terry. They've all sat down and they you know, they've said, hey, I'll tell you what I can what I can't. So I don't I never I haven't gotten the impression that any of the last three have tried to avoid us. And as long as we engage in fair, meaningful exchange, I think they're going to.
01:25:54
Speaker 2: Continue to do this.
01:25:55
Speaker 3: Obviously there are things they can't talk about.
01:25:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't chare, but but it was still disturbing, as I shared with her, it was still disturbing seeing that officer talked to them like that, and I, I'm it has to be addressed. That part of it has to be addressed. The rest of it, I don't know, we'll see.
01:26:14
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go back to the phone lines.
01:26:16
Speaker 1: Uh three one seven, four eight zero thirteen ten three one seven, four eight zero thirteen ten Joyce, go ahead, how are you?
01:26:25
Speaker 13: I'm fine, Tina. How about yourself?
01:26:27
Speaker 2: I'm fine, Thank you.
01:26:29
Speaker 13: It's good, Okay. So my question was for the chief of police, the new four day in chief of police, but she's no longer on the mine. But I was wondering what her stance was. Are the police working for the businesses or the community, Like if you have a sound up. I've been trespassed off of a few locations, and I'm like, they didn't even hear both sides of the story. You know, they renting to call the police. I'm like, please do, and then when the police come, I'm truspassed.
01:27:06
Speaker 2: Why were you trespassing? Joyce?
01:27:08
Speaker 13: No, if you go to post office to inquire about mail, would that be considered truspassing? Tina?
01:27:14
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the circumstances.
01:27:16
Speaker 13: Well, are you asked the premifice the circumstance?
01:27:20
Speaker 2: Were you asked to.
01:27:21
Speaker 1: Leave and refuse? Because that could entail trespassing.
01:27:24
Speaker 13: I went down there to inquire by the letter that I received. The postman took mister Milton took my mail, the letter and then called the police when I asked for it back. What is that me? You can't just take my mail when I come down there to inquire about At least that's what I presumed. Maybe I presumed in correctly, but I didn't know it would lead to a trustpassing. And then I had to call the Mayor's Action sender to give my mail delivered. They just stopped delivering my mail, and I'm like, huh, how was Johns?
01:27:59
Speaker 7: Was?
01:27:59
Speaker 1: That? Was that that confrontation? I mean, what what happened to go to those extremes? That is not I went.
01:28:06
Speaker 13: Down there to inquire about my mail because I had been getting mail sporadically and then you know, some days it would have brown dog on the insufficient address. I walked down there one day to ask where I am?
01:28:20
Speaker 2: What you said, brown dog, that's.
01:28:23
Speaker 13: What some of the letters have on them. Yeah, and then insufficient I address, which was I A. And IQU went went down there to inquire about that. That's how I know what it was. But then when I get a letter, well, it don't even have my right name, and then it's in my mailbox and I go down there to ask you about it, and you snatched the letter. Well no, he didn't snatch it out. That's misspoke on my I put the letter down on the counter. He said, I threw it. But I put it on the counter and was asking him, and he ainked it back and would not returning.
01:28:57
Speaker 2: Did you throw it?
01:28:58
Speaker 13: No? I didn't, I said it. I I might put it on the account with yeah authority, like here's the letter, here's the envelope. He wanted to get the envelope. I still got the envelope with my name and correctly written y'all the post office, we y'all know my name. It seemed bogus to me. That's what I had to go inquire about. How come the wrong name is on the letter to mail to this address every day, even though isn't.
01:29:28
Speaker 2: The responsibility of the post office there it came from the address.
01:29:34
Speaker 13: Typically nice if you're gonna put it, yeah, okay, So anyway, hold.
01:29:41
Speaker 3: On, we've we've gotten we've gotten mailed at our house.
01:29:47
Speaker 5: That's it's not ours, but it has our address.
01:29:53
Speaker 2: Current.
01:29:54
Speaker 13: You know, there's not the mail and I'm not the nicest person, so it's got a nervous for me to go up to some people's house. So I.
01:30:04
Speaker 5: Here's what I do when I've gotten Well, here's here's what I do. I won't I won't give it to them because some of my neighbors I don't know. So what I'll do with just right on not at this address and you know, put it back in the mailbox or either drop it off at the post office.
01:30:21
Speaker 13: And the person lived right across the street from me, and it was their address in my mailbox, and I asked them, did you know, Yeah, that's me. I'm like, well, here's your address over here, but I here's your mail. That's how I addressed it. But then you know, I didn't say nothing about that. But then other mails start coming. I'm like, I can't go to everybody's house. I'm not delivering mail, so I let they go. But then when you send mail from the post office, I can't even tell you what the letter and tail because they took it back from me. They said I had a brown dog. My dog is black all day long and on the chain in generally inside. And then and then the insufficient address. I've been living here forty years and there's always been an address posted.
01:31:09
Speaker 3: Sometimes it can happen, they can.
01:31:11
Speaker 13: Get Yeah, I'm attesting to the fact that it can.
01:31:15
Speaker 2: Did you get arrested for trespassing? Is that what happened?
01:31:18
Speaker 13: I was told not to come back down. What you know what? First time IVER got trespassed was in twenty three four when I was headed to my mother's funeral and I got, uh got jipped out of gas and they once called called a log. Now I know how to add so that police officer I went down had it for the Indianapolis Police Metro Police Department to come because it was O shame and at the speedway, and so when he came, I had already gone down to the Lawrence Police because I thought, well, somebody gotta be helpful. Lawrence is helpful a race. They have been trained to deal with situations. But they weren't even open that day. So I went back to the speedway and the police officer told me if I didn't get off the lot, and he was threatening to lock me up and told my car I've been robbed once. Now I'm threatened with come on now, can you at least hear my side? Get back?
01:32:18
Speaker 9: Then?
01:32:18
Speaker 3: You you must you live in the Lawrence district.
01:32:22
Speaker 13: Nope, in this gentrified or trying to gentrify up the street from homie angels living there over here, over here. A New Year's day, it was a New Year's eve. It was eight police cars outside my house for you, for you? How are you outside my house? Is what I said. I don't know. I walked outside outside my I told him a back and went in the house. A happy new Year. I know all y'all didn't come out to tell me happy news here, Please be real. Eight police cars.
01:33:04
Speaker 2: Well, what were the.
01:33:07
Speaker 13: People shoot? They don't generally even be in our neighborhood on New Year's Day. You can't find a police officer. But they was all outside my house.
01:33:17
Speaker 2: What did they say?
01:33:18
Speaker 3: What?
01:33:19
Speaker 13: Happy new here?
01:33:21
Speaker 2: That was it? There was a gang of eight police are not.
01:33:25
Speaker 13: A gang, but it was a gang.
01:33:27
Speaker 1: It was collection, a collection of eight police officers, eight police cars and.
01:33:34
Speaker 12: Car.
01:33:34
Speaker 2: They just wanted to stay outside your house and say.
01:33:37
Speaker 13: Hey, I'll pull it up alongside my house. I don't know for what. It was near midnight. I'm like, I went out there because now I've been over here for a while. So I went out because I'm like, who who they have to because they're on the side of my house. Yeah, okay. So when I went out, they was approaching my porch. I no, I can't. They can't do this again. No, so I when it I walked, I was headed to my house in the door, and they happiness here. I turned around and said, yeah, a happy New Year. To YouTube. I think I took a picture of it, and you.
01:34:14
Speaker 2: Were able to go back in your house and enjoy the new year.
01:34:17
Speaker 13: All was the reason for them all being out there. It's harassment, it's one thing after another ever since. Well, yeah, I don't.
01:34:25
Speaker 2: I don't understand that unless.
01:34:29
Speaker 13: You No, y'all couldn't discuss the teenager. But I'm sixty six years old. I didn't have all kinds of incidents. Uh, it's just amazing one after the other for a long while, and it's getting to be worisome. I mean, you ain't scaring nobody. They ain't scaring nobody. But the fact remain. I can't even think I'm gonna call the police if I see something, because they've been the chank me out of my house and I'll be sitting in jail. And that's a fact.
01:35:04
Speaker 1: But they didn't take you to jail New Year's and they didn't take you to jail at the post office.
01:35:08
Speaker 13: So I ain't doing nothing to go to jail in any of them cases. But they are still consistently in my purview, up in my faith, outside my house. Uh No, No, I just don't need their assistance after making a report.
01:35:29
Speaker 1: Wait, Joyce, it's been numerous incidents.
01:35:34
Speaker 13: I can go through them all.
01:35:36
Speaker 2: But you on New Year's Eve, did you make a report?
01:35:40
Speaker 13: No? Didn't, did not call them all. I learned on June the twentie if not to call them all.
01:35:48
Speaker 5: Have you ever gone to police headquarters to make a file of what's that on?
01:35:53
Speaker 13: Just this way?
01:35:59
Speaker 3: Just the center?
01:36:00
Speaker 2: Isn't it just center?
01:36:02
Speaker 13: That would be just this way? Yep, had to go out there. I've been spending much time out there.
01:36:08
Speaker 2: Have you What did you have to go out there for? Joyce?
01:36:12
Speaker 13: It wasn't in reference to the post office. It was I think I told you when it happened, when I got out about how I was attacked and then a gun pulled on me, and then yeah, all that And I'm just walking my dog. That's all like rufus Thomas, just trying to walk my dog. I don't I'm not sociable. I don't need to say nothing to nobody, and I don't I be talking to my dog and walking. People want to ingratiate it.
01:36:40
Speaker 2: You know that song shed Yeah, walking the dog?
01:36:45
Speaker 13: Yeah, got it?
01:36:46
Speaker 2: I know, Well somewhere, it's here, somewhere, it's in the building. It's here.
01:36:51
Speaker 13: Okay, I don't know. You said, have I been to Justice Way? Yeah, and the first time I got h what what is it? Wait? Where I can't go back on the location truspassing. I had to go to a large police to ask what this inteil? That man just threatened me and told me if I didn't leave my cars, then get told they just stole my money. But you can't hear my side. You got all these out, well, who you representing? Shouldn't you hear both sides before you make a determination?
01:37:21
Speaker 2: Joyce, I'm trying to hear your side now.
01:37:26
Speaker 13: At that time, I would think that when he was called, he would listen to both sides. That's why I was gonna ask the chief what kind of training they get to They can't document. Maybe he didn't want to write a report, but I still have that trustpass, whatever case number was on there. Every time they do something, I want to speak to your supervisor. And then then the incident in June, when I asked mek to the supervisor, he don't want to talk to you. But if they have on body camp, so that would be seen, uh huh, and that would be determined at a later date. I'm sure. That's why I don't want to speak too much on that incident. But one after the other. I mean, in February, my car was obscounted. The towd man would not drive my car because I only had three one hundred dollars bills and it was two eighty. I should have tipped him twenty for getting me home, but I didn't know all that was gonna be necessary. He gonna tell me to do something over the phone. I was born in the fifties. I don't know how to do that. But I asked him if he wait, I call my daughter and she come help me. He drove off with my car. Uh. And then the next day, listen, what what's our life? It's gonna be a testimony in the end, Tina through it all.
01:38:43
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to follow. I really am. You're right. I do get lost.
01:38:48
Speaker 13: I know I lost to Tina.
01:38:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to find you know, so somebody took three You couldn't my car.
01:38:55
Speaker 13: In February, after I left the Indiana Art Museum, some call with in front of me. I avoided it so I wasn't running back of it cause it they was fast. It was Corvette Kmeero black jumped in front of me. I know they got rolled high cameras on the highway. They could have seen that, but the police was there. Johnny on the spot asked me I'm okay, I'm all facing traffic against the wall. God bless, I didn't hit nothing, thank God for that, but the wall. And then I figured if i'd get my car home, which was less than right up there on sixty five and I'm over here right off for yeah, right off the highway yep. But he he didn't have change for he couldn't give me a twenty ooh, I mean.
01:39:41
Speaker 2: What so y you y? Are you saying the toll truck.
01:39:45
Speaker 13: Two hundred and eighty dollars and I only had three one hundred dollar bills?
01:39:50
Speaker 2: Okay?
01:39:51
Speaker 13: Are we together on that?
01:39:52
Speaker 2: No, we're not.
01:39:53
Speaker 1: Let's keep one dollar, Billy, I don't understand me.
01:39:58
Speaker 13: I didn't understand either. I'm in you cash, and you don't want your.
01:40:02
Speaker 2: Car was disabled? Right?
01:40:04
Speaker 13: It had to be told they was up against the wall, one of them there.
01:40:08
Speaker 2: Okay, that part I didn't understand.
01:40:10
Speaker 13: Okay, the car oncoming traffic.
01:40:12
Speaker 2: You call a toad truck and the police was.
01:40:15
Speaker 13: There, Johnny on the spot, right behind me.
01:40:18
Speaker 2: Okay, how did the tow truck driver get there?
01:40:20
Speaker 13: It was there right behind them?
01:40:23
Speaker 2: How they you asked him?
01:40:25
Speaker 13: I'm tied t and I did not mean to raise my boy. I'm just I don't know. I didn't know.
01:40:31
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, go ahead.
01:40:36
Speaker 13: The life and time.
01:40:38
Speaker 2: Thank you about you know.
01:40:45
Speaker 1: We we gave her the time today because we're so you know, this caller accuses us all the time of rushing her, of not listening to their side of the story, of not following with what she said.
01:40:57
Speaker 2: What did you follow?
01:40:59
Speaker 9: All that?
01:40:59
Speaker 3: I was trying, but I couldn't. I was I couldn't follow.
01:41:05
Speaker 1: I from the post office getting you know, trespassing.
01:41:10
Speaker 2: That trespassing.
01:41:11
Speaker 1: Usually someone usually accuses another person of trespassing if they've been told not to come in. And the reason that you're told not to come into a federal building or a government building is probably because of some kind of a conflict or most I guess.
01:41:28
Speaker 5: I didn't follow Hi. Well, I wouldn't have been able to answer any.
01:41:33
Speaker 1: No and putting down the letter with authority that had the wrong anyway, Joyce, I'm sorry. Joyce has run ins with law enforcement. Well, they're not always positive that happens.
01:41:49
Speaker 3: And what can you do?
01:41:50
Speaker 5: I mean, you really nothing we can do. We gave her a chance to talk about it.
01:41:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just trying to follow to see where where it all went.
01:41:58
Speaker 3: I couldn't follow I.
01:42:00
Speaker 2: I where the toe. Somebody has to call a tow truck. You can't just get and they don't ask for cash on the spot.
01:42:06
Speaker 5: So I was thinking maybe there was an accident. She had an accident, and so the truck was there at.
01:42:12
Speaker 1: The wall, at the wall, and the tow truck was right behind her. Yeah, doing what I mean, the tow truck been following her.
01:42:21
Speaker 2: Wait, waiting on a crash.
01:42:24
Speaker 3: I don't know, a good question. Sometimes that was the That was.
01:42:29
Speaker 1: The whole I mean, because tow truck drivers are summoned to the scenes of accidents, and I have yet to have one asked for cash on the spot. Now, they'll ask you your insurance card, if you have triple A or what have you, and then they'll take and then you settle up at wherever you know. But I've never and I could be wrong. Now, I'm not just saying just because it never happened to me doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
01:42:57
Speaker 3: Well, I never had that happened.
01:43:00
Speaker 2: Well, that's two of us. Not that way, not that way.
01:43:03
Speaker 3: It's like you said, insurance card, triple A, that's.
01:43:06
Speaker 1: What they'll last for vehicle you know, some cars to buy them, it comes with the complimentary toe services.
01:43:14
Speaker 3: Sometimes you get that.
01:43:15
Speaker 1: That could be a part of you know, Chevrolet or you know, we give you this toe.
01:43:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. I was hard to follow there.
01:43:23
Speaker 1: But been two hundred and eighty dollars and she only had three two hundred dollars bills three three one hundred dollars.
01:43:29
Speaker 3: Right, so three hundred, but it was three eighty.
01:43:31
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she said too. I think she said to eighty.
01:43:35
Speaker 1: She should have gave him a twenty dollars tip instead of not having the exact shoe.
01:43:38
Speaker 3: I wasn't following. I was trying to follow. I was trying to follow there.
01:43:42
Speaker 2: So anyway went off the rails, off the roils. But we did learn something today in that video.
01:43:50
Speaker 1: Officers were investigating on a report of a stolen stolen guy stolen or maybe was it report of a stolen gun or the gun was laid are determined to be stolen, It was later determined later determined to be stolen stolen. Yeah, okay, but anyhow, congratulations to Chief Terry. I'm sure we will be talking with Chief Terry yes again, and hopefully this incident will be uh will be I don't know what you call it.
01:44:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, resolved, resolve it, uh.
01:44:27
Speaker 2: You know, uh yeah, we'll see. Somebody was charged, that's true.
01:44:33
Speaker 3: Charged and being under age, you can't say.
01:44:36
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine that the officer is going to escape with nothing, Neither can I.
01:44:41
Speaker 3: There's gonna have to There's.
01:44:42
Speaker 1: Gonna be consequences on both ends. I guess, so both sides.
01:44:46
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's all the time we have for right now. Thank you for joining us.
01:44:51
Speaker 1: Our website is Praiseindie dot com. Willimore Junior on the.
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