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Hello and welcome to the Bitcoin.review podcast, where we explore developments
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and projects with the people who actually make them happen.
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Hello and welcome back to the Bitcoin.review, the podcast about the price.
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We're going to be talking about the Bitcoin price for two hours and 45 minutes.
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And today with me.
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Finally, somebody to tackle the hard conversations.
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There you go.
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Somebody already tackled my opening.
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Nobody knows anything is the quote of the day.
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Very appropriate.
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Mr. Justin, Unemployed Justin, welcome back to the show.
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It's great to be back.
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It's been a while.
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I haven't paid attention to Bitcoin at all in a couple of months.
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So I'm curious to hear what the price is these days.
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Mr. Paul, Future Paul.
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Hello.
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Thank you for having me.
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I have also pivoted.
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This is the unemployment show.
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So I have two great candidates here.
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They're going to fight to the death for a job at doing some web design for
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Bitcoin.review. Yes.
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What a time to be unemployed.
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Perfect timing, guys.
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I really nailed it.
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It's great.
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I love it.
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I guess, I mean, where do we even start after an opening like that?
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Do you guys want to address any of your current gigs or previous gigs or do
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we move on?
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I can talk a little bit about what we're doing now.
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I do like it.
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Mutiny, we'd always talk about how we're going to have the best wallet right in
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time for the bull run.
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We got one part right.
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But yeah, so the pivot where we are kind of coming a little out of stealth
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now.
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We're doing this thing called OpenSecret.
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You can go to OpenSecret.cloud. Basically, it's like an encrypted backend.
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So trying to kind of improve the UX of like private key management and
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encrypted data storage for app developers.
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So and we also have like a demo product called Maple, which is an encrypted AI
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chat.
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So if you go to OpenSecret.cloud, you can find stuff about that.
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So now it's very cool.
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What is an encrypted AI chat, Paul, could you explain that?
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Well, it's like there is a coin and you buy the coin.
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I asked Paul, this hairy guy keeps interrupting.
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It's encrypted from the browser to our server, which is running in a AWS
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Enclave to the GPU.
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So nobody in that whole chain can see what you're chatting.
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And we also store your history and we also can't see that.
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So thanks to the power of cryptography, that puts the crypto in crypto.
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We can we even have attestation that you can verify from your web browser that
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we aren't looking at your chats.
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So it's pretty cool.
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It's pretty cool stack.
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And it's basically a demonstration of what OpenSecret is going to make possible
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for regular devs.
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We should get you to implement that on Unleash.chat. Hmm, yeah, there's some
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users there.
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Yeah, stop spying on your users.
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Yeah, no, we can't see their stuff either.
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Like we architected so we would have to build tooling.
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If we build tooling, you could see it.
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Because like you still can't encrypt on the GPU side, right?
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No, this is encrypted through to the GPU.
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But then the GPU can see it.
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If you can see it, you can see it.
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No, the H100s have the same kind of secure enclave thing all the way to it.
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So it goes all the way to the end.
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So it's operating on encrypted memory.
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So, yes, if you are literally a transistor inside of the GPU, you might see
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something spicy go by.
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Just like what's SGX.
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No backdoors.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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We promise.
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Very similar trust model.
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No, but it's already a huge leap.
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Like, listen, you're not going to you can't run shit on servers and think that
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people can't see it.
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It's just that, like, it's great when the people working at the company can't
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see it.
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It's a huge improvement.
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Right.
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You're making it making this the default.
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Like don't don't store your life savings in this kind of system.
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But this is a lot better than your average, like unencrypted Postgres database.
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You know, that would be great.
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It's like ChattyPT, how many bitcoins are there in these 12 words?
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And money gone.
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All right.
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So where's my list?
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It disappeared here.
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Justin, do you want to pitch anything?
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No, these days I'm mostly making pizzas and chicken wings.
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I basically have opened up a restaurant in my apartment at this point.
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My entire porch is just full of Weber grill accessories, just like from floor
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to ceiling.
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Nice.
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Pretty unbelievable.
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I do it.
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I do have a fatty sticker and a few pieces of luggage I have.
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It's like a nice little circle, shiny circle.
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It's a great it's a great circular sticker, as you said, in a circle.
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It's a circular sticker in a circle.
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And it's shiny.
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The shiny should have given away.
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All right.
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Housekeeping.
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Well, there's some new tutorials for cold card.
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And if people want to buy one, I highly recommend not waiting too long because
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the price pump makes the inventory disappear.
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And if you're only changing your security when the Bitcoin price pumps, man,
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good luck.
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You know, do it in calm when the price is down.
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But, you know, it's still not too late.
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Urgent vulnerability disclosures.
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Critical severity, private key extraction, vulnerability in SecP256k1 node
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affecting ECDSH.
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This was a node library.
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Of course, it's the JavaScript people who fucked it up.
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And it's really bad, like really, really, really, really, really bad.
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The attackers can retrieve private keys using low order curve points through
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only 11 ECDH sessions.
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Math can be a bitch.
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So they re-implemented.
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Of course, in JavaScript.
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SecP in JavaScript.
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And deliver through node.
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Because there is nothing safer than going out, NPN, update my crypto library
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and sign.
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It says it's a binding.
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It's probably the glue, right?
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Like how we have Libndu for cold card.
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OK, so not a full re-implementation, but somehow the binding still was bad.
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Yeah, but how are they leaking the keys if they're not doing some math there?
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They must be doing a bit more than just the bindings.
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The low cardinality curves.
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So there's some check that they don't have that allows the attacker to use
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public keys on low cardinality curves.
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So if someone knows what that means, they can probably have my money.
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It's the wrong group.
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Where's Rendell when you need him?
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Medium severity disclosure of hindered block propagation due to stalling peers.
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Another Bitcoin Core vulnerability allows attackers to delay block downloads by
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stalling peer nodes.
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So this one is more like the same sort of, not the same type, but the
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same effect as the previous one.
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I think essentially it can kind of like crash some Bitcoin Core nodes.
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Again, it's only a problem for people like running like Lightning and stuff
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like that.
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Normal users, not a big deal.
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All right, Bitcoin software releases and project updates.
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Bitcoin Core version 27.2 netfix, race conditioning, self-connect, detection,
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init, change shutdown order of load, block, thread, and scheduler.
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RPC fix causes of calls to field PSBT errantly returning complete equals true.
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PSBT check non-witness UTXO output early.
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Test fix constructor of message TX.
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A few other things.
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Electris version 0.10.7, support testnet 4, enable LTO in release build, don't
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sync mempool when Bitcoin D mempool is not yet loaded.
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Electris is now like one of the main users of Electrum servers, right?
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I think so.
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Yeah, there's a whole bunch of different like forks.
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Like, I think mempool uses something like either a fork of this or this one.
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I think it's for those two.
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There is also, what's it, Fulcrum.
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Fulcrum is supposed to be the high performance one, I think, or no longer true.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, the B-caches are cornering the market on Electrum servers at this point.
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Well, they have a concern about catching up with blocks, right?
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They're more invested in Bitcoin research, right?
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This is what you call a motivated developer.
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That's right.
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It's amazing what's possible.
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That's right.
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Here's your one terabyte block.
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Now eat all that data and index it before 10, 20 minutes.
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BTC pay server version 2.0.2, critical vulnerability disclosure for Nostr or
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Blink plugin users.
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Without it, an attacker with access to a pool payment could drain the Lightning
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wallet without limit.
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What is a pool payment?
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It's like, I think those like LNERL invoice types, like you just tell the node
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to pay whatever if you're using one of the cards.
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Wouldn't anyone with access to a pool payment be able to drain the wallet
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regardless, unless maybe there are limits or something?
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, that's that's how the pool card works.
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Pool payment sounds kind of terrifying.
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Yeah, it looks like the bug was they were incorrectly marking the payment as
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canceled, even though it actually went.
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So you probably already had a you had a valid one, I'm guessing.
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And then you know, I see.
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And then we're not checking the limit or something like that.
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Well, it's fixed.
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I haven't I haven't played with BTC pay in a few years.
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I would love to see where it is these days.
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They've they've come along, like I'm just waiting for the Python version, the
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version 2.0 was out recently.
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Interface localization, sidebar navigation looks like a bunch of updates.
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This is huge.
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Yeah, I mean, they've been working on this saga for like six years now, right?
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Like they started in like 2018.
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So they've I bet it's I mean, it was it was usable in like 2019 or
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20, you know, when I was using it.
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Imagine it's pretty impressive now.
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For sure.
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Libsac 256k1 version 0.6.0, add a new module for Moosig, implements the Moosig
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2 signature scheme according to BIP 327 specifications.
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That's pretty awesome.
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At long last.
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At long last.
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New CMake variable, 256k1 append LD flags for appending linker flags to the
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build command.
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And they made a few changes.
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This is the GOAT crypto library.
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Not the Node version, sorry.
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When, you know, when was Taproot, two, three years ago?
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And Moosig was one of the big selling points of it.
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And it's amazing that it takes like three years for that.
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This is a good example of how hard cryptography is.
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You're like, oh, we have a new cryptographic primitive.
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Now we can do this thing called Moosig.
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Three years later.
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Right.
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And then like, you know, Persian cat meme comes about, you know, it's like,
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yeah.
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And it's not because the people working on it are not working on it or, you
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know, you have the brightest people in Bitcoin working on it diligently.
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And it still takes three years.
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Like that's a good, that's a good example of how difficult cryptography is.
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But that's the difference between Bitcoin and Ethereum, right?
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And Ethereum did have just like push the server on Friday.
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Like, fuck it, the day after.
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Yeah.
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And money gone, right?
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Yeah, no, it's kind of a big deal, especially like, you know, the guys do the
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hard work of building the math and then you have to implement it on the library
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and then you have to create the bindings.
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And then you have to create like the actual client software that uses the shit.
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I mean, security proof and stuff like that.
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And then, yeah, it's a lot.
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And these things are like, you know, a huge fucking deal for the wallets to
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also implement, too.
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Somebody has to write those tests.
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Speaking of Ethereum, have you seen that price of Ethereum, like Ethereum's
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price action in the last six months where it's just like in a band relative to
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Bitcoin, just going like straight down?
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It's pretty brutal.
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It's the most beautiful graph I've seen in years.
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You know, it's the only price for that shit thing is zero.
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Bitcoin Keeper mobile version 1.2.18, selected Electrum servers during app
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setup, add support for 22s, support USB option enabled for cold card and Jade
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via the desktop app, tap signer, verify initial status and backup count.
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Received screen now enables multi multiple addresses and a bunch of other
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things.
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The tap signer support is kind of cool.
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They do the other operations like changing the pin and doing other things, too,
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which is nice.
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Ben is injected like a lot of life into the project there and they're doing a
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lot of stuff.
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Liana version 8.0, template heaven, Liana daemon library, a new field for last
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full time stamp was added to the.
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It's pronounced daemon.
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I know.
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I can't.
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I can't.
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I'm too ESL, dude.
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Just too ESL.
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Respect the immigrants.
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Was added to the wallet table.
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About two weeks too late for that, NVK, I'm sorry.
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I know, right?
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Shit, you know, like I can't cross the border anymore.
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They're going to ship everybody out.
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The new Bitcoin D28 version is now downloaded by the GUI and a bunch of other
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updates.
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I got to say, this is just a catastrophically long list, NVK.
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You guys have really been doing your homework here.
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Oh, dude, you have no idea.
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You haven't been in the show.
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This is like a 15 page list.
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You came to the first, second or third episode of the show and then you got
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employed and then you disappeared so that you wouldn't put your foot in your
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mouth during air.
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And then you come back and we're professionals now, dude.
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Like, look at this.
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We got lists and shit.
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It's really amazing.
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I'm really proud of you.
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Rudolfo, is that how you say it?
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It's Rudolfo, with the H, right?
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Brazilians can't pronounce R as I was reading.
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Oh, my God.
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Chances of employment at CoinKite dropping to zero fast here.
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Yeah, I mean, if I was, it would only last about six months, though, right?
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Dude, not even.
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It tends to be how it goes.
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It'd be like, you know, first thing he does is create a water cooler channel
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and says, good morning.
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It's like, fired.
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I asked Peter one question in a GitHub issue just immediately terminated.
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It's like, it's like, get close and fire, you know, like it literally drops.
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There's a script to watch for that.
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It kills all your access to everything.
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I post a screenshot with a color scheme on my Vim and then Peter just
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terminates.
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That's right.
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I mean, he is on green and black and green.
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There is no coloring.
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Yeah, I know.
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Black and green.
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Like one.
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Yeah, I know.
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That was the joke.
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I was just, you just explained the joke.
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Yes.
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It was not clear.
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You know, when it's not a good joke, right?
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Then you have to explain.
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Yes.
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Rudolph.
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Rudolpho.
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I think I say version 1.0.0 B3.
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They updated a bunch of stuff.
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It's a little nice, interesting project.
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They help you set up your multi-sig and also seems like a fork of Electrum
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in the GUI.
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It's beautiful to see how many of these little multi-sig kind of coordinator
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projects.
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There's like 10 of them at this point, almost.
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It really shows how multi-sig is nearly unusable.
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When's Junction coming out, Justin?
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Yeah, me and Paul did a little work on a multi-sig thing a couple of
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years ago.
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And I kind of was like, Jesus, I don't want to try to convince people to
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use this.
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This is the problem, right?
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Like, it's like, there's always those people on Twitter.
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They're like, you know, no multi-sig is the solution.
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And I'm like, dude, have you ever looked under the hood at the amount of like
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room there is to like completely foot gun yourself?
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It's really bad.
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I mean, I still love it.
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Yes.
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No, I use it.
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I set one up and it is very, like, if you can get it, it is
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very, gives you a lot of peace of mind.
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Yeah.
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But it was kind of overwhelming for me who knew every nut and bolt of what
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was happening to get it, you know, to get the whole thing to work.
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It's terrifying.
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But you can ease into it, right?
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You can set it up and put some money in and kind of try and test
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that a couple of times.
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I think the best thing for most people is like, you know, use single sig
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passphrase.
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Once you're comfortable with that, very comfortable with that.
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Then you go and you set up, you know, like you go on Sparrow or something,
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you set up a two out of three, you know, do it all yourself.
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Get used to that, send and receive some money, test some shit, figure out where
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you're going to put three backups.
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And then slowly, right?
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Like, because the thing is, a lot of these protocols or this sort of like
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assisted multisig set up, they're very custom.
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It does sort of like, you know, it could hurt you if you don't know what
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you're doing.
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Yeah, it was funny.
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I tried, I opened Sparrow a while ago and it hit the import wallet button and
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import wallet gives you a menu of 30 different wallet formats that you can
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import.
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It was almost comical.
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Every one of these wallets has their own format.
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Yeah.
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Yay.
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EBSMS was going to fix everything you didn't.
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Yay, open source.
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Yeah.
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Open source is going to take over the world, Rudolfo.
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It is.
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It is.
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Open source is great.
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Protocol should be open source.
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RoboSats, version 0.7.2, improved recovery robot form and a bunch of other
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updates.
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What are Nostr order books?
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Yeah, so I think they're using Nostr to do the whole bids and asks.
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That's pretty fun.
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The way it should be, hopefully with ephemeral keys, but otherwise all your
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bids and asks are public on your Nostr Twitter.
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Yeah, that's really neat.
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RoboSats seems like one of those ones where a community really developed behind
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it and they're really moving forward.
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Excited to see.
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I mean, they have some volume stats, I think, on their website.
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I remember seeing that at a bit test.
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It seemed like it's been growing.
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I mean, they've been around, like we've been covering them now for at least a
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couple of years.
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Yeah, if you go to learn.robosats.com stats, you know, it's pretty consistent
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up and to the right.
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Great.
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BitKey firmware, version 1.0.91, faster transaction signing, hardware now signs
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transactions up to five times faster.
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Rust Blitz version 1.11.3, optimized to run on plain Debian 12 Linux for Prox,
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Mox, VM.
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Rust Blitz, Rust Blitz is cool, by the way, people should check it out.
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ESP Miner version 2.3.1b1, we work how we publish artifacts, use the same ESP
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expressive IDF release for GitHub and VS Code.
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ESP Miner is an ASIC miner for ESP 32.
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That's kind of extinct.
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Yeah, the BidAxe thing, right?
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Yeah, it's like a lottery mining, you know, like you barely make it through
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like one round.
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Bolts Exchange, the client in the web app got updated.
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All right, Project Spotlight, Frost, a flexible round optimized threshold
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signature library for BIP 340 taproot.
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Isn't this Frost, Frost?
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Or is this some implementation of Frost?
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This looks like a different implementation to CMD Druid, it's not like, it's
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just in his personal GitHub.
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It's the same name.
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Yeah.
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Great, that's definitely not going to cause confusion.
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Oh, wait, is this CMD Druid?
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Who is this?
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Is this Topher?
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Feels like it's Topher, yeah.
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I think that's, yeah, maybe we know him.
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Yo, is this, is it in JavaScript?
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Yeah.
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No, it's TypeScript.
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Sorry, TypeScript.
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Yeah, because he was doing, he was doing BidEscro stuff.
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And he was telling me that his like next project, he wanted to do something
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like this.
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So, yeah.
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ColliderScript, Covenant in Bitcoin via 160-bit hash collisions.
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The paper introduces a method for enforcing covenants on Bitcoin outputs using
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hash collisions in SHA-1 and RIPEMD 160, allowing covenants without Bitcoin
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protocol changes.
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That's nuts.
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This is like insane.
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Oh, yeah.
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This is weaponized autism right here.
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This is, if you've ever seen it, this is weaponized autism.
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Carmen's been warning me about this.
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Basically, Polster got inspired by BitVM and basically is trying to see if he
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can like implement like opcodes that we don't currently have by just colliding
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the shit out of hashes.
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I don't, I don't really understand the cryptography and Ben won't read the
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paper for me yet to explain it to me.
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So I don't know what's really going on.
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But the idea is like, can we do enough work and make a script under four
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megabytes so that we can actually put it on the blockchain that emulates
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opcodes?
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And then basically, it kind of in a kind of a weird way, it sort of
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pushes along some of the software discussions.
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Like, well, you know, we could emulate some of this stuff like really
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inefficiently.
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So just, you know.
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Yeah, so the basic thing is like, we might already have opcodes or covenants,
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but like.
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You know, all this shit never fucking goes anywhere.
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It's like BitVM.
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None of this shit goes anywhere because nobody that is sane puts real money in
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any of this shit.
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I mean, I think as Bitcoin matures, it's good to have these people exploring
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the solution space.
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Oh, absolutely.
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No matter how stupid or crazy it sounds, because you can, you know, maybe they
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find something.
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So I think it's a it's a great thing that people are, you know, people do
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these crazy, these crazy research experiments.
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But yeah, I don't know how practical.
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Most of them don't turn out to be practical.
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You know, I see like, yeah, the research side, absolutely.
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I love that.
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It's the problem is like when people start then selling the thing as if it's
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like, you know, BitVMs is coming tomorrow.
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Look at my shitcoin on BitVMs, you know, like it's kind of triggering.
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But, you know.
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One thing I like about this one, the work to spend our covenant is about 33
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hours of the Bitcoin mining network.
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But to break our covenant requires 450,000 years of the Bitcoin mining network.
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So, OK.
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OK, so this is so impractical you couldn't even use it, really, unless you were
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right, unless you were like riot mining or something.
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But like to put it into context, like maybe, I don't know, six months ago, you
508
00:26:01.090 --> 00:26:05.050
know, when Polster started like explaining this to people, he's like, I don't
509
00:26:05.050 --> 00:26:06.010
know if I can do it.
510
00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:08.410
So the fact that he's got it to the point where you can do it in
511
00:26:08.410 --> 00:26:12.010
33 hours of the Bitcoin mining network is like it's progress in his terms.
512
00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:15.070
How much hashrate does Riot have?
513
00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.070
Like 10 percent, 5 percent?
514
00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:18.770
I think it's something like that.
515
00:26:20.290 --> 00:26:29.730
So so if we extrapolate that, say times 20, so like if he employed Riot, it
516
00:26:29.730 --> 00:26:32.370
would be 660 hours.
517
00:26:33.890 --> 00:26:38.210
I just asked Pierre, maybe Pierre can put the word in, you know.
518
00:26:38.850 --> 00:26:44.150
Guys, can we like use your mining facility for 660 hours?
519
00:26:45.650 --> 00:26:46.950
That'd be a fun bounty.
520
00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:49.610
You just lock something up with this and then.
521
00:26:50.010 --> 00:26:52.210
Hey, Pierre, I'm looking for a little proactive security.
522
00:26:52.350 --> 00:26:56.650
Do you think I could have your entire hash array for a week?
523
00:26:57.590 --> 00:26:57.970
That's right.
524
00:26:58.830 --> 00:27:03.670
Before we move on, I do think that Polster needs to get back to his true
525
00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:07.910
mission of onboarding the Amish onto the Bitcoin network, you know, as you said
526
00:27:07.910 --> 00:27:08.990
earlier this weekend, VK.
527
00:27:09.850 --> 00:27:10.090
Yeah.
528
00:27:10.370 --> 00:27:10.750
Did I?
529
00:27:11.490 --> 00:27:11.910
Yeah.
530
00:27:12.310 --> 00:27:12.830
OK.
531
00:27:12.930 --> 00:27:14.990
You responded to me on Twitter.
532
00:27:15.910 --> 00:27:17.170
Oh, right.
533
00:27:19.070 --> 00:27:21.190
You remember this paper wallet stuff?
534
00:27:21.850 --> 00:27:22.090
Yes.
535
00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:26.830
The Amish, the Amish delivered Pennsylvania to Generalissimo Trump.
536
00:27:26.830 --> 00:27:30.150
So, you know, we have to pay them back.
537
00:27:30.610 --> 00:27:32.050
Kind of like what a brilliant move.
538
00:27:32.790 --> 00:27:34.790
Let's pick up those people.
539
00:27:35.690 --> 00:27:39.050
Those people, who forgot about them?
540
00:27:40.010 --> 00:27:42.070
Don't fuck with raw milk is the lesson.
541
00:27:42.810 --> 00:27:42.970
Yes.
542
00:27:44.790 --> 00:27:49.430
Great RSI, the Great Script Restoration Interpreter, a repository contains
543
00:27:49.430 --> 00:27:52.970
experimental potential interpreters for great script restoration.
544
00:27:53.290 --> 00:27:58.030
A proposal aimed to re-enabling the refining Bitcoin script opcodes.
545
00:27:58.990 --> 00:28:01.850
Oh, man, I have love and hate for this project.
546
00:28:02.530 --> 00:28:06.630
It's like, you know, of course, us nerds love it.
547
00:28:07.130 --> 00:28:11.790
Of course, the economic actors are probably going to hate it because it's like
548
00:28:11.790 --> 00:28:12.650
changes and risk.
549
00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:14.890
So it's going to be interesting.
550
00:28:17.150 --> 00:28:22.290
Boltzmann, TS, Monero Repo, TypeScript Library Computing, the Entropy of
551
00:28:22.290 --> 00:28:26.790
Bitcoin Transactions and the Likeability of their Inputs and Outputs.
552
00:28:26.790 --> 00:28:27.950
Like linkability.
553
00:28:28.690 --> 00:28:29.050
Yes.
554
00:28:31.130 --> 00:28:35.570
So de-anonymization project, I guess, for testing.
555
00:28:36.170 --> 00:28:36.390
Hmm.
556
00:28:37.130 --> 00:28:42.050
It's just lovely to watch, to be able to participate and listen to NVK
557
00:28:42.050 --> 00:28:42.990
Practices reading.
558
00:28:42.990 --> 00:28:43.810
Right.
559
00:28:45.530 --> 00:28:49.470
It hasn't changed much since K-12.
560
00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:54.510
And this is me reading fast.
561
00:28:55.550 --> 00:29:01.790
Bitcoin Hackerspace and Community Accelerator, BleepLab, launches BleepDev and
562
00:29:01.790 --> 00:29:06.530
a new Bitcoin developer education platform built on Lightning and Noster.
563
00:29:07.090 --> 00:29:09.010
So this is kind of fun.
564
00:29:09.850 --> 00:29:16.630
So Austin is the guy behind PlebDevs and he's been going to PlebLab for a
565
00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:16.730
while.
566
00:29:16.810 --> 00:29:20.550
He works for Voltage and he's basically making his own like online education
567
00:29:20.550 --> 00:29:24.890
platform where you kind of learn to code, but also learn how to build on
568
00:29:24.890 --> 00:29:25.150
Bitcoin.
569
00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:30.610
And we went over his UI in Austin Bitcoin Design Club.
570
00:29:31.090 --> 00:29:35.910
And also PlebLab just moved onto the same floor.
571
00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:40.510
So now we have Bitcoin Commons, we have PlebLab, and we have Unchained all
572
00:29:40.510 --> 00:29:43.610
basically on the same floor in Austin.
573
00:29:43.790 --> 00:29:44.930
So it's kind of fun.
574
00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:48.490
I feel like there's some nice like community consolidation going on.
575
00:29:51.650 --> 00:29:57.530
SetSale, a Lightning Bitcoin payment processor with the option of connecting to
576
00:29:57.530 --> 00:30:01.850
your own Bitcoin node or Lightning network node.
577
00:30:02.510 --> 00:30:06.290
Lightning Bitcoin payment processor written easily deployable in Python.
578
00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:07.610
There you go.
579
00:30:08.430 --> 00:30:11.610
That's what we like to hear, Python, that's just great.
580
00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:12.610
That's right.
581
00:30:13.610 --> 00:30:18.530
All the Rust hipsters, they don't understand that all new languages come and
582
00:30:18.530 --> 00:30:18.770
go.
583
00:30:18.970 --> 00:30:25.830
It's by Nick Farrell, but the last commit was in May, but it's by Nick Farrell.
584
00:30:26.010 --> 00:30:27.610
So it's good provenance.
585
00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:28.530
Nice.
586
00:30:28.850 --> 00:30:30.810
Yeah, he's been doing this one for a couple of years.
587
00:30:30.810 --> 00:30:34.790
He's now doing the FrostSnap hardware wall.
588
00:30:35.530 --> 00:30:35.830
Yeah.
589
00:30:36.690 --> 00:30:39.870
Yeah, they're moving in on you, all these hardware walls.
590
00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:41.010
Yeah, any day now.
591
00:30:41.950 --> 00:30:43.430
No, it's a very cool project.
592
00:30:43.570 --> 00:30:45.490
I really like the little snapping thingies.
593
00:30:45.570 --> 00:30:46.830
Let's see if they can make a clock.
594
00:30:47.810 --> 00:30:54.650
I think the challenges with things like that is it's going to be using like
595
00:30:54.650 --> 00:31:00.110
ESP32 is not a fantastic platform and USB is a problem.
596
00:31:00.810 --> 00:31:06.070
But there is nothing like, I mean, if they can prove the concept of that script
597
00:31:06.070 --> 00:31:11.070
type, right, like in that sort of use of it, it shouldn't be hard to move
598
00:31:11.070 --> 00:31:16.790
that into something more usable, like an NFC sort of tapping dance thing
599
00:31:16.790 --> 00:31:21.030
between different devices and more conducive to phone use.
600
00:31:22.050 --> 00:31:25.490
Imagine like, I mean, not hard to imagine Google or Apple deciding, hey, you
601
00:31:25.490 --> 00:31:25.870
know what?
602
00:31:26.450 --> 00:31:28.850
Do you know that USB command you are using?
603
00:31:28.990 --> 00:31:30.530
Yeah, it's not available in this new update.
604
00:31:32.190 --> 00:31:37.270
You know, like Apple broke the rights to FAT32.
605
00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:45.710
They were like breaking the SHA256, so they were breaking any rights really
606
00:31:45.710 --> 00:31:46.530
that were going to cards.
607
00:31:46.730 --> 00:31:49.830
So when you had things that had to be checked, like you checking the signature
608
00:31:49.830 --> 00:31:52.490
of your code card firmware on a micro SD card.
609
00:31:52.670 --> 00:31:53.930
Oh yeah, it doesn't check.
610
00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:56.790
So code card says no.
611
00:31:57.310 --> 00:32:04.910
Anyways, email BTC, send Bitcoin to anyone that has an email address.
612
00:32:05.110 --> 00:32:05.570
That's cool.
613
00:32:06.170 --> 00:32:06.990
How does that work?
614
00:32:08.330 --> 00:32:11.650
It is a very good pitch, you know, I think we need more of these things
615
00:32:11.650 --> 00:32:14.330
that are like, you know, an idiot can do.
616
00:32:14.930 --> 00:32:15.030
Right.
617
00:32:15.310 --> 00:32:17.690
So that's kind of UX we all want.
618
00:32:18.390 --> 00:32:21.250
Do they hold the Bitcoin in transit or something for somebody?
619
00:32:21.450 --> 00:32:23.530
No, it says it says non-custodial.
620
00:32:23.530 --> 00:32:27.750
There's something called Near Signatures, which I've never...
621
00:32:27.750 --> 00:32:28.890
Near Chain Signatures.
622
00:32:29.290 --> 00:32:31.530
Near Chain, the word chain, that's terrifying.
623
00:32:33.010 --> 00:32:35.450
Yes, as soon as there's chain, there's a shit going on.
624
00:32:35.630 --> 00:32:37.190
Oh, I don't like the word chain.
625
00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:40.050
They're using multi-party computation.
626
00:32:40.730 --> 00:32:41.190
Oh, OK.
627
00:32:41.690 --> 00:32:47.550
Dude, but MPC with VCDSA is like really asking to be like, you know, owned.
628
00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:51.290
Yeah, but this is this is for payments, you know, like.
629
00:32:51.290 --> 00:32:55.850
Yeah, if you're just like doing Venmo, you don't need like world-class
630
00:32:55.850 --> 00:33:00.770
security, you know, like, yeah, you can just get a really easy user experience.
631
00:33:00.810 --> 00:33:01.550
It might be worth it.
632
00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:04.690
Like people love finding addresses, right?
633
00:33:04.810 --> 00:33:08.210
And a lot of those aren't terribly secure, but it doesn't really matter.
634
00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:10.850
Yeah.
635
00:33:10.850 --> 00:33:11.250
Yeah.
636
00:33:11.310 --> 00:33:14.630
And then and then, you know, people say, no, but this is the solution for all
637
00:33:14.630 --> 00:33:15.970
your Bitcoin.
638
00:33:16.350 --> 00:33:19.410
And then, you know, it's like a classic.
639
00:33:19.410 --> 00:33:20.770
All right.
640
00:33:21.510 --> 00:33:22.710
Cross-script attack.
641
00:33:23.690 --> 00:33:30.990
Looty Player JS, a popular open source NPM package for web players, was
642
00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:32.930
compromised with a wallet drainer.
643
00:33:33.130 --> 00:33:33.710
Oh, man.
644
00:33:34.130 --> 00:33:34.610
Amazing.
645
00:33:35.610 --> 00:33:39.990
I wonder what exactly this means, like in what context can it drain stuff?
646
00:33:41.230 --> 00:33:41.990
Oh, it's a mobile.
647
00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:43.130
It's a mobile library.
648
00:33:43.670 --> 00:33:43.910
Interesting.
649
00:33:45.050 --> 00:33:45.750
Oh, Lottie.
650
00:33:45.790 --> 00:33:46.670
I've heard of Lottie.
651
00:33:47.110 --> 00:33:50.050
Yeah, it's like for it's like for fancy animations.
652
00:33:51.150 --> 00:33:54.150
So it's like I think it's for a React Native because Airbnb does a lot of
653
00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:54.690
React Native.
654
00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:55.330
Yeah.
655
00:33:55.590 --> 00:33:57.690
Always run your phone in lockdown mode, guys.
656
00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:04.110
There's Lottie players for like every single like front-end you can imagine.
657
00:34:04.630 --> 00:34:07.750
So like Web, React, Native.
658
00:34:08.370 --> 00:34:08.969
Yeah, could be.
659
00:34:09.050 --> 00:34:09.250
Swift.
660
00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:15.370
So, yeah, like if you have if you use this library to give a nice flashy
661
00:34:15.370 --> 00:34:20.810
little animation when your app loads up while it's loading the data, if you did
662
00:34:20.810 --> 00:34:27.310
a bad update, then if you updated it, now all your users could be gone.
663
00:34:27.330 --> 00:34:27.530
Right.
664
00:34:27.550 --> 00:34:28.290
If it's a hot wallet.
665
00:34:28.830 --> 00:34:29.190
So it is.
666
00:34:29.350 --> 00:34:30.050
Yeah, it is.
667
00:34:30.290 --> 00:34:34.870
It speaks to that is a big problem in software development is the supply chain
668
00:34:34.870 --> 00:34:35.389
attacks.
669
00:34:35.389 --> 00:34:37.710
It's a it's pretty terrifying.
670
00:34:37.870 --> 00:34:41.590
Any any real non-trivial software project ends up with so much code that isn't
671
00:34:41.590 --> 00:34:41.949
audited.
672
00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:49.570
Yeah, I mean, you know, the solution is like, see, when us cranky people go and
673
00:34:49.570 --> 00:34:53.790
say on Twitter, you know, like the UX can't be too nice, can't be too easy.
674
00:34:54.170 --> 00:34:58.950
You know, it's because the other people that make the stuff be too nice and too
675
00:34:58.950 --> 00:35:01.890
easy always end up using fucking libraries that they don't audit.
676
00:35:01.890 --> 00:35:07.510
Then people get on, you know, like ugly and simple goes a long fucking way.
677
00:35:07.830 --> 00:35:15.550
So it looks like somebody compromised a developer who had an access token to
678
00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:16.570
publish to NPM.
679
00:35:17.150 --> 00:35:17.550
Always.
680
00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:18.370
Yeah.
681
00:35:18.370 --> 00:35:19.670
So it wasn't in the source code.
682
00:35:19.790 --> 00:35:21.670
They didn't they didn't get a bad thing into the source.
683
00:35:21.990 --> 00:35:22.330
Right.
684
00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:26.490
Lottie didn't have anything wrong in their code, but somebody pushed an updated
685
00:35:26.490 --> 00:35:31.010
version of the package using a compromised access token to NPM.
686
00:35:31.010 --> 00:35:34.090
And then everybody who uses the package updated.
687
00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:41.750
That's exactly what happened to to Ledger Live when they had somebody took over
688
00:35:41.750 --> 00:35:47.770
either the CDN or some other package releasing thing of JavaScript that I don't
689
00:35:47.770 --> 00:35:48.370
fully understand.
690
00:35:49.170 --> 00:35:50.610
And they replaced the library there.
691
00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:55.370
And then they managed to to take money off of, you know, some fucking weird
692
00:35:55.370 --> 00:35:57.850
smart contracts or whatever that people had on their Ledger Live.
693
00:35:58.290 --> 00:35:59.970
But but this is the thing, right?
694
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:01.450
Like it's man.
695
00:36:01.990 --> 00:36:05.130
This is also this is also the same thing that happened on Ubuntu.
696
00:36:05.350 --> 00:36:08.310
Like there was this big vulnerability like six months ago in Ubuntu where it
697
00:36:08.310 --> 00:36:10.910
was just it was mostly a build environment problem.
698
00:36:11.490 --> 00:36:11.590
Right.
699
00:36:11.610 --> 00:36:15.570
So this is an example of why open source isn't, you know, the cure all right.
700
00:36:15.690 --> 00:36:20.730
Because you're in this case, the vulnerability, you know, there's nothing wrong
701
00:36:20.730 --> 00:36:25.030
with the code, but the artifact that was built that went into projects was not
702
00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:26.770
was tampered with.
703
00:36:26.770 --> 00:36:30.550
But, you know, reproducible builds, deterministic builds will fix this, right?
704
00:36:30.610 --> 00:36:31.430
Like totally deterministic.
705
00:36:31.510 --> 00:36:34.730
Well, kind of, because you don't know where the phone is loading, right?
706
00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:39.590
Because it's still like the phone is still like the app still go through the
707
00:36:39.590 --> 00:36:42.010
walled garden closed from the MacBook.
708
00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:43.090
I mean, that is true.
709
00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:46.530
If they're if they're doing if you have a React Native app that's hot loading
710
00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:48.250
your JavaScript bundle, right?
711
00:36:48.370 --> 00:36:52.430
Dude, if you run like I highly recommend people run your phone on lockdown mode
712
00:36:52.430 --> 00:36:54.870
and see how many apps don't even load.
713
00:36:54.870 --> 00:36:59.350
Like it's just blank because you're just loading everything from the web.
714
00:37:00.470 --> 00:37:04.790
You know, I bang on this on almost every show, like hardware wallet developers
715
00:37:04.790 --> 00:37:07.010
should not have a fucking wallet.
716
00:37:07.670 --> 00:37:12.030
OK, it's like you are either the signer or you are the transaction creator.
717
00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:17.450
You should not have both parts, because if you have both parts, you can make
718
00:37:17.450 --> 00:37:21.310
some very bad transactions that the people may not notice and sign it.
719
00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:27.130
So you really want the two vendors to be part of this dance, especially when it
720
00:37:27.130 --> 00:37:29.530
comes to to like this and this and money.
721
00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:33.450
And, you know, we all know that when SACs today is a million dollars tomorrow.
722
00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:33.910
Right.
723
00:37:34.130 --> 00:37:39.410
So, you know, it's man, it's it's so fucking annoying.
724
00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:44.750
It's you know, I also think it's interesting in their incident report.
725
00:37:44.870 --> 00:37:49.770
They like list the SHA-512 of a known good version.
726
00:37:49.770 --> 00:37:55.030
It's like, how nice would it be if, you know, JavaScript dependencies involved
727
00:37:55.030 --> 00:38:01.150
hash and signing during normal course of events, not just during an incident
728
00:38:01.150 --> 00:38:01.670
response.
729
00:38:02.110 --> 00:38:07.870
Talking about dependencies, I went to take a quick peek at one of this very
730
00:38:07.870 --> 00:38:10.590
common DIY hardware wallet projects.
731
00:38:11.690 --> 00:38:14.430
And Jesus fucking Christ, there is even Vim there.
732
00:38:14.430 --> 00:38:22.890
Like it's like the full Linux stack, like the whole thing is just sitting in
733
00:38:22.890 --> 00:38:23.610
your hardware wallet.
734
00:38:24.710 --> 00:38:25.350
Amazing.
735
00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:27.610
There is even a user table.
736
00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:28.790
Fascinating.
737
00:38:30.690 --> 00:38:31.530
It's OK.
738
00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:33.610
People need to get rekt to learn.
739
00:38:34.070 --> 00:38:36.290
There is there doesn't seem to be another way.
740
00:38:37.650 --> 00:38:37.930
All right.
741
00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:43.390
Hackers misuse emergency data requests to access user data at TechCrunch.
742
00:38:44.130 --> 00:38:48.590
Hackers gain access to user data by exploiting emergency data requests using
743
00:38:48.590 --> 00:38:54.490
hacked law enforcement email accounts by bypass user warrant requirements.
744
00:38:54.810 --> 00:38:55.450
Very interesting.
745
00:38:56.510 --> 00:38:59.710
So all you have to do is you just email YouTube and say, this guy is
746
00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:00.170
a terrorist.
747
00:39:00.370 --> 00:39:01.770
It's like, here's his password.
748
00:39:04.150 --> 00:39:05.510
Pretty insane.
749
00:39:06.270 --> 00:39:09.550
The attacks will continue until the backdoors are removed.
750
00:39:10.290 --> 00:39:11.710
Yeah, I love that.
751
00:39:11.970 --> 00:39:16.770
I think it was on, I think it was JD Vance on Rogan talking about how
752
00:39:16.770 --> 00:39:19.490
his phone and Trump's phone both got hacked.
753
00:39:19.770 --> 00:39:20.010
Yeah.
754
00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:22.210
I don't know if you already talked about this, but I thought that was
755
00:39:22.210 --> 00:39:27.770
interesting that he specifically said that he was told that the compromise.
756
00:39:27.770 --> 00:39:32.850
So like, it's not just like those in the know, but like the actual victim was
757
00:39:32.850 --> 00:39:37.450
told the compromise is based on like NSA requested backdoors.
758
00:39:37.830 --> 00:39:38.310
Yeah.
759
00:39:38.750 --> 00:39:41.270
Yeah, involved from the Patriot Act.
760
00:39:41.730 --> 00:39:41.990
Yeah.
761
00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:42.970
Yeah, no, totally.
762
00:39:43.150 --> 00:39:50.690
I mean, you know, if you if you put a door, it's like it depends on
763
00:39:50.690 --> 00:39:54.670
which thug is in power and which thug is going to have access to, but some
764
00:39:54.670 --> 00:39:55.790
thug is going to get in.
765
00:39:56.470 --> 00:39:59.150
The Chinese have had doors for thousands of years.
766
00:39:59.370 --> 00:40:00.770
They know their way around the door.
767
00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:07.070
It's just been so hard to get this through, like into like mainstream political
768
00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:08.490
understanding, I feel like.
769
00:40:08.930 --> 00:40:15.250
And so it's kind of nice to see that level of understanding reach like the, you
770
00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:16.850
know, vice president elect.
771
00:40:16.990 --> 00:40:18.070
It's not going to get there.
772
00:40:18.090 --> 00:40:19.050
It's like the phone, right?
773
00:40:19.050 --> 00:40:23.470
It's like people advocating for using the phone for real money, like or for
774
00:40:23.470 --> 00:40:26.210
actual like, you know, do or die privacy things.
775
00:40:26.330 --> 00:40:29.590
It's like, no, your phone is remote accessible by the spooks.
776
00:40:29.730 --> 00:40:33.310
Just just know that, you know, can you prove it?
777
00:40:33.370 --> 00:40:34.250
Yeah, probably not.
778
00:40:35.190 --> 00:40:39.370
So just the fact that they allow you to use encrypted apps now that they don't
779
00:40:39.370 --> 00:40:42.650
have the keys for it, just so that they can see it some other way.
780
00:40:44.310 --> 00:40:47.050
JD Vance also believes that his signal was not compromised.
781
00:40:47.050 --> 00:40:50.730
I don't think the signal protocol has been broken.
782
00:40:50.950 --> 00:40:56.110
I just think that is, you know, the signal servers, the signal, the phone that
783
00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.470
you're using for your signal, everything else is compromised.
784
00:40:59.270 --> 00:41:02.190
Yeah, or they're just they're just reading your entire screen, right?
785
00:41:02.430 --> 00:41:03.410
Yes, exactly.
786
00:41:03.570 --> 00:41:04.210
Totally, right.
787
00:41:04.510 --> 00:41:08.310
And your face while you read it, too, because they, you know, these guys are
788
00:41:08.310 --> 00:41:08.810
all creeps.
789
00:41:08.910 --> 00:41:11.310
So like they want to see all the angles.
790
00:41:12.330 --> 00:41:13.930
You know, it's it's it's pretty brutal.
791
00:41:13.930 --> 00:41:21.490
So store relays target in IP spoofing campaign causing widespread disruption.
792
00:41:22.570 --> 00:41:31.130
Critical zero click flaw exposes Synology storage devices to ransomware and
793
00:41:31.130 --> 00:41:31.710
data theft.
794
00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:37.070
You know, ransomware I'm OK with because if you have another backup, it's not a
795
00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:37.510
big deal.
796
00:41:37.990 --> 00:41:38.710
It's just like, fuck it.
797
00:41:39.450 --> 00:41:44.550
Synology is normally your small business's backup.
798
00:41:45.050 --> 00:41:45.590
Yeah, totally.
799
00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:54.490
It's a backup should be on a couple of drives via USB-C and then you
800
00:41:54.490 --> 00:41:57.070
put them away and that's it.
801
00:41:57.150 --> 00:41:59.730
And you just do that once in a while and you're probably good.
802
00:42:00.290 --> 00:42:02.890
All right.
803
00:42:03.370 --> 00:42:04.110
Hidden risk.
804
00:42:04.910 --> 00:42:12.130
North Korean hacker group BlueNoroth deploy a new MacOS malware campaign
805
00:42:12.130 --> 00:42:13.830
targeting cryptocurrency firms.
806
00:42:14.830 --> 00:42:19.490
The attack uses phishing emails disguised as crypto news.
807
00:42:20.310 --> 00:42:22.510
It's like you're double your Bitcoin.
808
00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:23.230
Click here.
809
00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:29.190
BritneyUsePeers.exe. Don't click on anything.
810
00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:32.390
I mean, it's funny they modify your ZSH file.
811
00:42:32.670 --> 00:42:36.030
So they modify like your terminal shell.
812
00:42:38.450 --> 00:42:39.470
That's pretty funny.
813
00:42:40.370 --> 00:42:41.050
I know, right.
814
00:42:41.850 --> 00:42:45.370
And but here's the thing, like Wessex doesn't ship with ZSH.
815
00:42:46.230 --> 00:42:47.070
Yeah, it does.
816
00:42:47.470 --> 00:42:47.910
It does?
817
00:42:48.790 --> 00:42:49.570
Oh, shit.
818
00:42:49.650 --> 00:42:49.870
Really?
819
00:42:50.270 --> 00:42:50.470
Yeah.
820
00:42:50.690 --> 00:42:52.190
I'm still running my own.
821
00:42:52.770 --> 00:42:55.730
Like, because, you know, I just keep on inheriting new systems, right?
822
00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:56.670
Just bringing it over.
823
00:42:56.810 --> 00:42:57.970
So, like, I'm running my own.
824
00:42:58.250 --> 00:42:58.810
OK, Boomer.
825
00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:01.710
I did not know that.
826
00:43:02.430 --> 00:43:06.890
It's funny that they're doing this to bypass, like, MacOS, like, alerting, you
827
00:43:06.890 --> 00:43:10.790
know, MacOS, people complain about these alerts, but I love this.
828
00:43:10.870 --> 00:43:13.510
Like, you launch an app and it's like, hey, this app wants access to your
829
00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:14.290
documents folder.
830
00:43:14.670 --> 00:43:16.070
And it's like, hey, thanks for letting me know.
831
00:43:16.230 --> 00:43:17.130
Like, I'm really great.
832
00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:17.990
I like that.
833
00:43:18.150 --> 00:43:19.350
I like the copy and paste one.
834
00:43:19.490 --> 00:43:20.210
That's my favorite.
835
00:43:20.570 --> 00:43:23.810
It's like, why does this app want copy and paste access?
836
00:43:24.010 --> 00:43:26.390
It's like it's an app to change the color of the screen.
837
00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:26.810
Yeah.
838
00:43:29.390 --> 00:43:33.250
Also, run your laptops, your Mac computers on lockdown mode.
839
00:43:33.770 --> 00:43:35.110
It is surprisingly good.
840
00:43:36.530 --> 00:43:40.170
It's also kind of cool how many less ads I get on stuff.
841
00:43:41.130 --> 00:43:44.810
Yeah, the really frustrating thing is that they don't let you.
842
00:43:45.630 --> 00:43:50.950
We had this problem in Mutiny is that, you know, lockdown mode disables
843
00:43:50.950 --> 00:43:54.430
WebAssembly and WebAssembly is getting used more and more on the web.
844
00:43:54.430 --> 00:43:56.690
And it makes really cool things possible.
845
00:43:57.650 --> 00:44:00.870
And a nice compromise is being able to like add an exception.
846
00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:05.910
No, see, WebAssembly is essentially a remote code execution throw jam.
847
00:44:06.330 --> 00:44:08.050
It's like it's really brutal.
848
00:44:08.330 --> 00:44:13.290
OK, in my opinion, it seems relatively trivial to be sandboxed.
849
00:44:13.710 --> 00:44:17.010
But let's say you don't trust it, but you can still theoretically add an
850
00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:17.830
exception per site.
851
00:44:18.010 --> 00:44:23.130
But there's some bug that they added to Safari where you can't even add an
852
00:44:23.130 --> 00:44:23.570
exception.
853
00:44:24.550 --> 00:44:25.450
It's not a bug.
854
00:44:25.530 --> 00:44:29.730
It's because, you know, the celebrity goes and adds an exception and boom, all
855
00:44:29.730 --> 00:44:30.830
their nudes are on the Internet.
856
00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:32.550
No, it's a it's a bug.
857
00:44:32.710 --> 00:44:36.070
I filed it as a regression and they labeled it as a bug.
858
00:44:36.370 --> 00:44:38.030
So I have proof.
859
00:44:38.950 --> 00:44:39.950
That's your list.
860
00:44:41.350 --> 00:44:43.130
You should submit it to the producer.
861
00:44:45.430 --> 00:44:46.030
All right.
862
00:44:46.110 --> 00:44:47.290
Five dollar ranch attacks.
863
00:44:47.490 --> 00:44:48.490
They keep on increasing.
864
00:44:48.970 --> 00:44:51.110
Target break-in, Bitcoin host and narrator.
865
00:44:51.290 --> 00:44:51.770
Geist one.
866
00:44:51.870 --> 00:44:53.110
Yeah, I saw that one.
867
00:44:53.130 --> 00:44:56.430
So Geist one was at the Lugano Plain B conference.
868
00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:58.650
Some guy entered his hotel room.
869
00:44:59.050 --> 00:45:01.890
It really goes to show that evil maids are real.
870
00:45:03.530 --> 00:45:06.030
You know, use devices.
871
00:45:06.330 --> 00:45:09.770
First of all, don't travel to Bitcoin conferences with your main devices.
872
00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:11.610
Second, don't stay in the hotel conference.
873
00:45:12.590 --> 00:45:13.650
Already a huge improvement.
874
00:45:13.990 --> 00:45:15.910
Don't use your real name to book hotel rooms.
875
00:45:17.770 --> 00:45:22.190
Yeah, I think the golden age of Bitcoin conferences for real Bitcoiners is
876
00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:22.870
pretty much over.
877
00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:27.090
Now it's like, you know, just meet your friends.
878
00:45:27.430 --> 00:45:29.330
I'll just go fishing with the boys, you know.
879
00:45:29.530 --> 00:45:30.090
That's right.
880
00:45:30.250 --> 00:45:31.590
Just go fishing with the boys.
881
00:45:33.990 --> 00:45:36.690
MVK, we need to go walleye fishing someday up in Canada.
882
00:45:37.670 --> 00:45:38.430
No, I'm not there.
883
00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:47.430
I don't know, man, maybe the communists are not going to let us do that there
884
00:45:47.430 --> 00:45:48.030
at some point.
885
00:45:48.110 --> 00:45:48.510
I don't know.
886
00:45:48.690 --> 00:45:50.470
But yes, I don't like fishing.
887
00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:51.910
I only like shooting food.
888
00:45:51.910 --> 00:45:54.990
Like fishing for food, I've tried.
889
00:45:55.370 --> 00:45:56.630
You could shoot a fish.
890
00:45:56.910 --> 00:45:57.910
Yeah, I've tried.
891
00:45:58.070 --> 00:45:58.510
I've succeeded.
892
00:45:59.270 --> 00:46:04.810
But it is totally possible, I might say.
893
00:46:05.350 --> 00:46:09.030
But the main problem is, yeah, fishing is boring as fuck.
894
00:46:11.290 --> 00:46:13.530
It's so fucking boring, man.
895
00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:18.110
And he calls himself a Canadian.
896
00:46:18.670 --> 00:46:19.250
Yes.
897
00:46:20.110 --> 00:46:21.310
I was not compatible.
898
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:24.180
All right.
899
00:46:25.020 --> 00:46:25.580
What else?
900
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:32.720
Here, a 23-year-old Ukrainian tourist visiting Puckett was ambushed in his
901
00:46:32.720 --> 00:46:34.820
friend's hotel by our man.
902
00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:38.660
And then they threatened to break his fingers.
903
00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:40.940
The minute he said 500,000, he did.
904
00:46:41.900 --> 00:46:44.780
He said 200,000, so he negotiated it down.
905
00:46:45.740 --> 00:46:47.080
What a great way to start your day.
906
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.620
I mean, these things always have a backstory, you know.
907
00:46:52.620 --> 00:46:54.760
Like, it's never that simple.
908
00:46:55.660 --> 00:46:59.860
You know, this dude was probably bragging at a bar about something or he pissed
909
00:46:59.860 --> 00:47:02.200
off somebody he didn't like that knew he had coins.
910
00:47:02.340 --> 00:47:03.300
It's always like that.
911
00:47:04.520 --> 00:47:12.700
Toronto cryptocurrency CEO Dean Skurka was kidnapped and held for ransom in
912
00:47:12.700 --> 00:47:13.580
daylight incident.
913
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.760
I saw this one on the news there.
914
00:47:16.540 --> 00:47:21.680
And they paid one mil in ransom and the guy got released.
915
00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:23.440
I mean, stay classy, Toronto.
916
00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:25.580
Now you have taxes and crime.
917
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:26.180
Wow.
918
00:47:26.820 --> 00:47:27.500
Winning.
919
00:47:29.600 --> 00:47:30.580
Pick one.
920
00:47:31.040 --> 00:47:32.100
You can't have both.
921
00:47:34.180 --> 00:47:41.620
Gunman family shot, shoots Antonio Vinicius López Griezbach, cryptocurrency
922
00:47:41.620 --> 00:47:44.620
businessman and injures three others.
923
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.600
Sao Paulo International Airport.
924
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:47.240
Jesus.
925
00:47:47.460 --> 00:47:48.020
I thought it was.
926
00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:48.600
Wow.
927
00:47:48.780 --> 00:47:51.000
That's bad when it's at an international airport.
928
00:47:51.680 --> 00:47:51.940
I know.
929
00:47:52.040 --> 00:47:52.180
Right.
930
00:47:52.220 --> 00:47:53.080
Like on the parking lot.
931
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.860
It's like the one place, you know, like everything's a felony.
932
00:47:57.500 --> 00:47:59.000
Like anything you do there is a felony.
933
00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:04.880
Remember the shit really escalated with Escobar when they decided to kill some
934
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.060
guy in the in the airport.
935
00:48:06.240 --> 00:48:08.940
It's like the airport is like one of those places where you don't fuck with,
936
00:48:09.020 --> 00:48:11.100
even if you're a sanctioned mobster.
937
00:48:12.060 --> 00:48:14.440
That happened the day I flew out of Mexico City.
938
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:15.220
Really?
939
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:16.880
You were there for the Escobar?
940
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.720
I was spending the year off the Internet and I was in Mexico City for a
941
00:48:21.720 --> 00:48:22.700
robotics conference.
942
00:48:22.820 --> 00:48:24.980
I got on a plane, flew to New York.
943
00:48:25.100 --> 00:48:28.920
And the next day I pick up a newspaper and I start reading about the shooting
944
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.880
that happened in Mexico City at the airport.
945
00:48:31.040 --> 00:48:33.120
So it happened like probably a couple of hours after I left.
946
00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:33.660
Wow.
947
00:48:34.660 --> 00:48:34.980
Yeah.
948
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:36.920
The world's going to get very interesting.
949
00:48:38.120 --> 00:48:42.780
I mean, like, you know, the most soluble money in the history of humankind is
950
00:48:42.780 --> 00:48:47.400
also great to take it from people because it's soluble.
951
00:48:48.420 --> 00:48:50.640
Is this a good argument for covenants?
952
00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:51.940
Yeah, absolutely.
953
00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:53.460
We need covenants.
954
00:48:53.600 --> 00:48:59.320
We need on-chain enforced vaults because then there is like literally nothing
955
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:00.080
you can do.
956
00:49:00.660 --> 00:49:01.980
And it's provable too.
957
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.680
I mean, you know, like we have all those trickpins and duress systems and plus
958
00:49:08.680 --> 00:49:11.680
that plus multi-sig, you know, you can slow down a lot.
959
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:16.840
But, you know, sometimes the push will come to a shove and, you know, it's a
960
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:17.180
problem.
961
00:49:18.240 --> 00:49:22.740
Enrique, of all the proposed benefits of covenants, would you rank the vault
962
00:49:22.740 --> 00:49:24.060
use case as the most important?
963
00:49:24.740 --> 00:49:25.300
Oh, absolutely.
964
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:26.960
Everything else is just a waste of time.
965
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:32.040
You know, sure, you can improve Lightning a little bit, can do this stuff.
966
00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:37.140
But like, realistically speaking, it's like, you know, when you have like UTXOs
967
00:49:37.140 --> 00:49:42.380
that are worth like everything, right, like people's life savings and shit, you
968
00:49:42.380 --> 00:49:45.720
know, we got there with gold, right?
969
00:49:45.780 --> 00:49:51.460
And then because gold was so soluble and reasonably portable, your chariot, you
970
00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:56.320
know, people were stealing the gold and then people outsource the risk, right,
971
00:49:56.380 --> 00:50:00.540
to the banks, like to people who did IOU banks so they could travel or pay
972
00:50:00.540 --> 00:50:01.600
remotely or whatever.
973
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.420
But like somebody has to have the guns, right?
974
00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:09.920
When be your own bank means also be your own gun holder, right?
975
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.200
And most people don't want that.
976
00:50:12.420 --> 00:50:17.040
Most people want to outsource the risk, the liability and, you know, at the
977
00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:18.300
expense of their sovereignty.
978
00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:21.960
So you can see you can see a similar thing happening with ETFs, right?
979
00:50:22.020 --> 00:50:24.920
Was it like 19 out of 20 just use Coinbase?
980
00:50:25.080 --> 00:50:25.220
Yeah.
981
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:25.440
Yeah.
982
00:50:25.500 --> 00:50:25.720
Right.
983
00:50:26.200 --> 00:50:27.240
No, they don't have a choice.
984
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:28.920
Like you can't just have a dude.
985
00:50:29.420 --> 00:50:29.560
Yeah.
986
00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:32.640
You can't just have a, you know, the board of keys and shit like it doesn't
987
00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:33.240
work like that.
988
00:50:33.240 --> 00:50:33.480
Right.
989
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:37.480
So we need we need on-chain solutions.
990
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:37.860
Yeah.
991
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.320
It's almost like separation of responsibilities for institutional custody.
992
00:50:41.540 --> 00:50:41.640
Right.
993
00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:44.820
Like you have you have the guys that can sign and the guys that can say
994
00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:46.520
you weren't allowed to sign.
995
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:46.940
Right.
996
00:50:47.300 --> 00:50:47.680
Yeah.
997
00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:52.460
I mean, you know, cryptography, all cryptography does is just creates a key
998
00:50:52.460 --> 00:50:52.920
issue.
999
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:54.360
You know what I mean?
1000
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.400
It makes all this cool shit, but now it's a key protection problem.
1001
00:50:57.520 --> 00:50:57.640
Right.
1002
00:50:57.740 --> 00:51:00.140
Every solution introduces another issue.
1003
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.380
That's right.
1004
00:51:02.040 --> 00:51:06.200
And, you know, like what we need is Bitcoin to be protected by math, not by
1005
00:51:06.200 --> 00:51:06.500
guns.
1006
00:51:06.620 --> 00:51:06.760
Right.
1007
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.420
And that that truly, truly takes us to a whole other level.
1008
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.940
Because can you imagine like, you know, the best way to secure Bitcoin is just
1009
00:51:15.940 --> 00:51:17.160
simply not be able to sign it.
1010
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:17.380
Right.
1011
00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:19.680
So like somebody comes to me like there's nothing I can do.
1012
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:21.480
There's no coin.
1013
00:51:21.660 --> 00:51:23.200
There's nothing really.
1014
00:51:23.680 --> 00:51:27.380
Like, you know, it's going to take me months to go to different countries and
1015
00:51:27.380 --> 00:51:29.640
all kinds of shit to be able to get something.
1016
00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:34.720
In addition to that, that's a good step.
1017
00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:38.240
But ideally, that is the common case.
1018
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:44.580
So not just that some people can't sign, but that it's typical for high net
1019
00:51:44.580 --> 00:51:46.760
worth holders to not be able to sign.
1020
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.820
It becomes it becomes known that there is no point in physically attacking
1021
00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:53.220
people because one, you're going to get shot back.
1022
00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:56.080
And two, you know, they can't sign.
1023
00:51:56.740 --> 00:51:57.200
That's it.
1024
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:58.100
Like it really is.
1025
00:51:58.100 --> 00:52:01.920
That's why they don't go after high net worth people who have money in the
1026
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.140
bank, because like the bank won't let them take the money out.
1027
00:52:06.140 --> 00:52:09.940
It really is like if you tell the bank teller that you're paying a ransom,
1028
00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:11.960
they're going to say, no, you can't have it.
1029
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:18.740
You know, and we need to get there with math and covenants do give us that.
1030
00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:22.720
So, yeah, I think if the current trends continue, you know, you're going to
1031
00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:25.540
have a lot of new parties participating in consensus and everything.
1032
00:52:25.540 --> 00:52:25.840
Right.
1033
00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:31.560
Maybe the vault use case is the one thing that would, you know, they're not
1034
00:52:31.560 --> 00:52:34.280
going to be convinced by ARK probably, you know, they don't care.
1035
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.360
But a better, more secure custody, maybe they'll get behind.
1036
00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:38.340
Right.
1037
00:52:39.180 --> 00:52:42.040
Yeah, no, it's we can't we can't escape that.
1038
00:52:43.140 --> 00:52:48.520
Anyways, software releases and project updates for privacy and other related
1039
00:52:48.520 --> 00:52:49.220
projects.
1040
00:52:50.380 --> 00:52:54.960
Reticulum MeshNet got updated at bandwidth and spreading factors for 2.4
1041
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:55.440
gigahertz.
1042
00:52:55.560 --> 00:52:56.180
So that's cool.
1043
00:52:56.620 --> 00:52:58.380
I got to get get this set up.
1044
00:52:58.700 --> 00:53:01.780
Yeah, dude, it's like it's super easy if you want to just do it over the
1045
00:53:01.780 --> 00:53:03.380
over the Internet to get started.
1046
00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:04.360
Right.
1047
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.080
And then slowly add other comm methods.
1048
00:53:07.380 --> 00:53:08.000
Yeah, exactly.
1049
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:09.660
It's just there's just a file.
1050
00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:12.080
You just keep on adding more comms set up as you add them.
1051
00:53:12.520 --> 00:53:12.960
That's sweet.
1052
00:53:14.580 --> 00:53:23.700
Matrix version 2.0, instant login, instant launch, instant sync, aka simplified
1053
00:53:23.700 --> 00:53:25.160
sliding sync.
1054
00:53:25.580 --> 00:53:28.500
Man, Matrix is one of those projects I want to love it, but I fucking hate
1055
00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:28.660
it.
1056
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:29.740
It's so difficult.
1057
00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:31.620
Like, it's such a fucking pain in the ass.
1058
00:53:31.720 --> 00:53:34.400
And you have once you're stuck with one server, you're kind of stuck with that
1059
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:34.700
server.
1060
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:37.500
I'm curious what it's like now.
1061
00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:42.120
I haven't used it in a while, but it sounds like they've kind of rewrote a
1062
00:53:42.120 --> 00:53:46.940
lot of their core stuff and they're trying to address like the some of the pain
1063
00:53:46.940 --> 00:53:49.980
in the ass that's like kind of it would take a while to load a room
1064
00:53:49.980 --> 00:53:51.920
because it's like basically decrypting everything.
1065
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:52.460
Great.
1066
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.320
So it sounds like they've addressed that with like sliding sync, but I don't
1067
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:56.960
quite know.
1068
00:53:57.120 --> 00:53:58.900
Yeah, the sliding sync is kind of a big deal.
1069
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:03.120
It's like you got, you know, I remember seeing demos of the old old electron
1070
00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:06.940
app and this new one with sliding sync, you know, from some developer who's in
1071
00:54:06.940 --> 00:54:07.920
like five thousand rooms.
1072
00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:10.200
You know, the old one would take five minutes to open.
1073
00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:12.360
The new one would open in like one second.
1074
00:54:12.520 --> 00:54:12.620
Right.
1075
00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:17.800
So it helps performance a lot, but only, you know, only for heavy users, mainly
1076
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:18.460
for heavy users.
1077
00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:20.260
Nice.
1078
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:28.500
I mean, I think MLS and like I said, I think as soon as Signal adds
1079
00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:33.500
big room support, I think a lot of these problems get resolved.
1080
00:54:34.300 --> 00:54:39.200
Now that you don't have to dox your phone number anymore, the ratcheting system
1081
00:54:39.200 --> 00:54:42.360
that Signal uses, I think, is way more reasonable.
1082
00:54:43.700 --> 00:54:46.580
They did add multi-people calls now for video calls.
1083
00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:54.780
Lightning plus L2 plus project spotlights, podcast boost dashboard, convert
1084
00:54:54.780 --> 00:55:00.000
core lightnings, list invoices, output to a podcasting 2.0 dashboard.
1085
00:55:00.200 --> 00:55:00.580
That's cool.
1086
00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:05.520
I hope the Podhome guys start hosting that because that would be helpful.
1087
00:55:06.980 --> 00:55:13.320
Zpay.live monetize virtually any digital content of lightning paywalls.
1088
00:55:14.600 --> 00:55:23.480
Bullish Nuts, a bullish cashew PWA wallet, Athene Nut, a privacy preserving web
1089
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.360
search powered by Kaji and cashew.
1090
00:55:27.620 --> 00:55:31.380
Oh, I guess it's like a Kaji wrapper that you pay with cashew.
1091
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:32.040
Cool.
1092
00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:39.780
Tiny Pine, a simple LN and cashew e-cash POS system for merchants.
1093
00:55:41.700 --> 00:55:44.980
Any updates or things with the FedEment?
1094
00:55:46.140 --> 00:55:50.000
Yeah, I mean, they're just kind of marching along, making things more robust
1095
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:50.600
and reliable.
1096
00:55:50.740 --> 00:55:56.060
They had a new release, I don't know if they've cut it yet, 0.4. I
1097
00:55:56.060 --> 00:55:59.080
don't pay enough attention, I'm just very curious.
1098
00:56:00.100 --> 00:56:06.840
What happened to the smart contract thingy so that you could do mining pool
1099
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:07.400
payouts?
1100
00:56:08.100 --> 00:56:11.160
No one's implemented it, still, you know, an idea.
1101
00:56:11.600 --> 00:56:18.320
There was a developer who was very interested in the idea, Kitman, who has
1102
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:19.000
taken a little break.
1103
00:56:19.380 --> 00:56:23.320
So hopefully Kitman returns and implements it.
1104
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.320
There's a couple other people who are interested in talking about it.
1105
00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:27.540
See what happens.
1106
00:56:28.520 --> 00:56:29.140
Very cool.
1107
00:56:30.140 --> 00:56:39.380
Software releases and project updates for L2+, Zeus version 0.9.2-RC, activity
1108
00:56:39.380 --> 00:56:45.960
export transactions, history spreadsheets, improved BIP 3.5.3 and BOLT 12
1109
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:53.040
support, spooky theme, settings payments and add slide to pay thresholds.
1110
00:56:53.160 --> 00:56:58.160
Evan, if you're listening, can you make the default view be the balanced view?
1111
00:56:58.720 --> 00:57:02.600
That would be nice and make it a little easier to swap between wallets or see
1112
00:57:02.600 --> 00:57:05.940
all the different wallets in a multi-wallet view.
1113
00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:12.060
So like, kind of like cards or lists for each of the different wallets you're
1114
00:57:12.060 --> 00:57:12.720
connected to.
1115
00:57:13.180 --> 00:57:13.680
That would be nice.
1116
00:57:13.780 --> 00:57:18.900
You could NVK just stacking Lightning wallets now, just layers upon layers of
1117
00:57:18.900 --> 00:57:19.580
Lightning wallets.
1118
00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:20.500
Yep.
1119
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:23.340
There is no other way, right?
1120
00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:26.880
Like nothing works in Lightning, so like you have to have multiple choices.
1121
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:28.080
You have to keep trying.
1122
00:57:28.140 --> 00:57:29.080
Trying to pay this one.
1123
00:57:29.420 --> 00:57:30.200
Oh, it didn't go.
1124
00:57:30.560 --> 00:57:31.400
Try this other one.
1125
00:57:31.540 --> 00:57:32.380
Oh, didn't go.
1126
00:57:32.500 --> 00:57:33.240
Try this other one.
1127
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:34.300
Oh yeah, that one go.
1128
00:57:34.540 --> 00:57:36.360
And that one charged me 10%.
1129
00:57:38.060 --> 00:57:42.080
The self-custodial Lightning wallets, man, the fees are just so fucking brutal.
1130
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.160
But it works, you know, it's one of those things.
1131
00:57:45.240 --> 00:57:46.400
It's like it's a lot of pain.
1132
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.360
But at the same time, it's quite magical, right?
1133
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:50.360
Like it really is.
1134
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.480
Like, especially when you're sending zaps on the Auster, man, it really is
1135
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:53.880
fantastic.
1136
00:57:54.360 --> 00:58:00.580
Or like when you use like BullBitcoin to pay people in South American stuff,
1137
00:58:00.780 --> 00:58:04.820
like it's crazy that you just pay, you know, Bitcoin Jungle or whatever.
1138
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.240
It just goes from there to the other thing, to the other thing.
1139
00:58:07.300 --> 00:58:09.340
And the guy gets like it straight into his bank account.
1140
00:58:09.820 --> 00:58:13.520
Like it's a poof and it is kind of instant.
1141
00:58:14.700 --> 00:58:16.780
It's yeah, it's cool.
1142
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.080
Living the cypherpunk dream.
1143
00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:24.640
I'll be go version 1.7. Withdrawal support, improve currency selection,
1144
00:58:24.860 --> 00:58:31.180
postagram, info in transaction details, write the Lightning, add support, send
1145
00:58:31.180 --> 00:58:36.840
payments for AMP invoices on Lightning, on L&D, a few other things.
1146
00:58:37.560 --> 00:58:39.460
CLBOSS updated.
1147
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:49.820
Nutshell version 0.16.1. Add support to L&D via gRPC for LN-RPC wallet,
1148
00:58:50.500 --> 00:58:55.360
NUT15 Mutiny payments for LN-REST wallet, stability improvements.
1149
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:57.400
Multi-NUT payments.
1150
00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:57.960
Yeah.
1151
00:58:58.760 --> 00:58:59.580
Thank you.
1152
00:59:01.020 --> 00:59:07.360
Geyser, November 2024, email enhancements, creators can now choose between nine
1153
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.340
different types, link posts to rewards and goals, link posts to goals and a
1154
00:59:12.340 --> 00:59:12.940
bunch other stuff.
1155
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:14.220
Geyser from Geyser.
1156
00:59:14.420 --> 00:59:20.020
I tried to give Open Timestamps a sizable donation there and there was no
1157
00:59:20.020 --> 00:59:21.160
liquidity to receive it.
1158
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:22.020
So fix it.
1159
00:59:24.040 --> 00:59:30.740
Clams, remote version 2.4.0, add UI for both 12 prism plugin.
1160
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:33.400
Noster, I'm not going to read.
1161
00:59:33.600 --> 00:59:35.640
Oh, the Noster Project Spotlights, let's read those.
1162
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:40.520
Snap Noster, create clean, customizable screenshots of Noster posts for
1163
00:59:40.520 --> 00:59:41.360
seamless sharing.
1164
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:47.420
Open Librarian, a website for tracking and sharing a lot of books.
1165
00:59:48.780 --> 00:59:53.120
Jumbo, yet another Noster desktop client.
1166
00:59:54.180 --> 00:59:58.680
Honeypot, a multiple wallets, multiple currencies project by Pablo.
1167
01:00:00.540 --> 01:00:06.780
Mutester, Noster, Live Noster, muted list, live monitor.
1168
01:00:07.080 --> 01:00:07.720
That's nice.
1169
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:14.700
Noster Gadgets, high level utils for developing Noster clients based on Noster
1170
01:00:14.700 --> 01:00:20.840
tools, Noster tools, TypeScript, Noster library for developing Noster clients.
1171
01:00:22.120 --> 01:00:23.160
Noster is moving, man.
1172
01:00:23.240 --> 01:00:24.100
Things just work.
1173
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.360
I've been testing the Primo 2.0, really enjoying the builds.
1174
01:00:29.240 --> 01:00:30.320
It needs more Bitcoiners.
1175
01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:33.260
I find that like there's not enough Bitcoiners there.
1176
01:00:33.720 --> 01:00:36.300
We need more Bitcoin talk there.
1177
01:00:36.300 --> 01:00:42.780
I also really would love to have like an Instagram type Noster experience in a
1178
01:00:42.780 --> 01:00:43.320
different app.
1179
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:45.020
Nobody provides that.
1180
01:00:45.080 --> 01:00:46.780
You know, sharing photos, that would be cool.
1181
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:48.180
That's a good idea.
1182
01:00:48.680 --> 01:00:52.140
Yeah, like, but like more sort of, you know, photos that you feel like, OK,
1183
01:00:52.780 --> 01:00:55.460
posting publicly like Instagram was way back then.
1184
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:57.940
It's kind of fun for people who like photos.
1185
01:00:58.040 --> 01:00:59.120
Yeah, I do.
1186
01:00:59.260 --> 01:01:01.880
I do think it's, I'm sure this has been talked about a lot.
1187
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:07.180
A lot of the problems that people had with Twitter have gone away, you know, in
1188
01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:07.860
the last year.
1189
01:01:08.220 --> 01:01:12.980
So the market, the market landscape in the last couple of years has changed
1190
01:01:12.980 --> 01:01:14.000
dramatically.
1191
01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:18.880
And during the election or even like right now, it's felt like very vital.
1192
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:26.520
It's like, hey, we're starting a Twitter campaign or an X campaign to, you
1193
01:01:26.520 --> 01:01:30.940
know, make Trump do this nomination instead of this nominate, you know, like.
1194
01:01:30.940 --> 01:01:34.620
Yeah, I mean, X is like the media, political and cultural center of the
1195
01:01:34.620 --> 01:01:37.740
universe right now, which is kind of insane.
1196
01:01:38.260 --> 01:01:41.700
And if something gets censored on YouTube, it like ends up on X.
1197
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.160
Yeah, it's how you complain about censorship on other apps.
1198
01:01:46.020 --> 01:01:49.460
So I would tell myself what's like this election kind of thing blows over.
1199
01:01:49.600 --> 01:01:53.460
I can kind of like either go off of social for a while or just go
1200
01:01:53.460 --> 01:01:53.840
on Noster.
1201
01:01:54.100 --> 01:01:58.680
But I think I think there is a few mistakes that like the Noster folks are
1202
01:01:58.680 --> 01:01:59.100
making.
1203
01:01:59.620 --> 01:02:02.440
First of all, it's thinking the competition is static or thinking you don't
1204
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:03.880
have competition, right?
1205
01:02:03.940 --> 01:02:07.540
Like most people don't care how the technology works.
1206
01:02:07.700 --> 01:02:11.860
If it feels like it's what they want to feel like, for example, people want to
1207
01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:16.280
feel like there's less censorship, they will go for the one that has the most
1208
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:16.940
amount of people.
1209
01:02:17.140 --> 01:02:18.700
That's how networks work, right?
1210
01:02:18.720 --> 01:02:24.480
I mean, it does seem like I notice on my X now, like a handful of
1211
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:28.020
people who are leaving, probably because they think it's become too right wing
1212
01:02:28.020 --> 01:02:29.220
and political or stuff.
1213
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.480
Yeah, the liberals are fleeing the blue sky.
1214
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:33.420
They're all going to blue sky and freds.
1215
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:34.800
There's a lot of them on freds as well.
1216
01:02:35.180 --> 01:02:37.640
Blue sky is fully centralized, too, which is retarded.
1217
01:02:37.980 --> 01:02:43.760
They post like sneaky like references to blue sky, like they like, oh, don't
1218
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.340
look too hard, but you might see a butterfly in this picture.
1219
01:02:46.740 --> 01:02:46.980
Right.
1220
01:02:47.700 --> 01:02:51.640
I mean, see, like I don't have any of those people in my feeds, like I
1221
01:02:51.640 --> 01:02:52.360
don't know them.
1222
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.960
Yeah, I mean, I follow a handful of them who are just really good software
1223
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.080
engineers, right, who are tend to be like very left.
1224
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:02.760
And you can tell they're sort of upset about what has happened to Twitter.
1225
01:03:04.260 --> 01:03:10.160
Yeah, it's I mean, like this is kind of like it really feels like it's a
1226
01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:10.860
public square.
1227
01:03:11.080 --> 01:03:12.760
It's the normal public square, right?
1228
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.580
Like there is a dude vomiting, there is a dude screaming crazy shit, and then
1229
01:03:16.580 --> 01:03:19.100
you're trying to have a conversation about where you're going to go for dinner,
1230
01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:19.820
right?
1231
01:03:19.820 --> 01:03:22.040
Like that's what the public square literally is like.
1232
01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:26.420
But, you know, like I think most people don't want free speech.
1233
01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:31.280
Most people want like, you know, they want just a nicer sell.
1234
01:03:31.740 --> 01:03:32.060
Right.
1235
01:03:32.120 --> 01:03:35.900
They want just like they want their censorship, which is very fair.
1236
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.140
I mean, that's what filters are for.
1237
01:03:37.420 --> 01:03:38.900
I just want the protocol to be open.
1238
01:03:39.020 --> 01:03:41.300
And I think Elon is going to make even more closed.
1239
01:03:42.420 --> 01:03:45.220
I mean, like I mean, the best thing that could happen to Nostra is if they
1240
01:03:45.220 --> 01:03:49.000
start censoring people on Twitter, but I don't think that's going to happen for
1241
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:49.520
a long time.
1242
01:03:49.700 --> 01:03:51.080
That's exactly my point.
1243
01:03:51.220 --> 01:03:55.000
It's like the reverse has happened, right?
1244
01:03:55.020 --> 01:03:58.840
There's all these accounts that were banned, you know, years ago that are
1245
01:03:58.840 --> 01:03:59.420
coming back.
1246
01:03:59.780 --> 01:03:59.880
Yeah.
1247
01:04:00.720 --> 01:04:06.480
And also, like I think what the lefties have a hard time with is that like
1248
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.220
they're not funny, right?
1249
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.640
Like it's like commies don't have a sense of humor, right?
1250
01:04:11.700 --> 01:04:13.900
Like and they are very thin skinned.
1251
01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:21.000
So like it's always going to sound like the free side or the people who are
1252
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.360
more righty are like louder and bigger on these things because they just
1253
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:27.520
they're just funnier.
1254
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.080
It's like the left kid meme, right?
1255
01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:32.980
Like that was the meme.
1256
01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:37.240
And so, yeah, like, yeah.
1257
01:04:37.340 --> 01:04:40.340
And I mean, I really hope that Nostra doesn't become like a commie shithole
1258
01:04:40.340 --> 01:04:45.000
because then I'm going to need to I'm going to need to censor that on my
1259
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:46.720
relay.
1260
01:04:48.080 --> 01:04:50.700
I was having a similar conversation with someone who works on Erbit.
1261
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:54.700
And they were like, you know, our whole idea was that the Internet was going to
1262
01:04:54.700 --> 01:04:55.900
become like a censored ghetto.
1263
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.260
You wouldn't be able to have any rights or freedoms on it.
1264
01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:02.980
And so you needed this whole operative system as their thesis.
1265
01:05:03.160 --> 01:05:06.760
And they're like, well, the premise has been proven totally inaccurate the last
1266
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:07.940
year.
1267
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:09.800
So now they're like really reevaluated.
1268
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.000
This is always like the safety in line.
1269
01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:13.220
Like, how do you kill Bitcoin?
1270
01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:15.440
It's like, well, you make the US dollar really good.
1271
01:05:16.780 --> 01:05:17.300
Right.
1272
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:18.760
Yeah.
1273
01:05:18.860 --> 01:05:23.840
I mean, the worst thing that can happen to privacy tools is when the non that
1274
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.840
the centralized tools become more free, even though the underlying attack is
1275
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:33.260
still very closed because you attract people, because, you know, centralized
1276
01:05:33.260 --> 01:05:34.980
systems are more efficient, period.
1277
01:05:35.240 --> 01:05:37.880
Like you can't compete with centralized system inefficiency.
1278
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:38.220
Right.
1279
01:05:38.940 --> 01:05:42.860
And they already come with, you know, the lindy of the network effect.
1280
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:48.140
Now, I feel like right now that I'm just getting to this point in my life
1281
01:05:48.140 --> 01:05:51.340
where I'm just so sick of logging into things.
1282
01:05:52.160 --> 01:05:52.260
Right.
1283
01:05:52.600 --> 01:05:58.500
And like the off, especially if you like to use lots of different services and
1284
01:05:58.500 --> 01:06:02.780
especially if you like to like work things together, like connect things
1285
01:06:02.780 --> 01:06:03.200
together.
1286
01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:08.180
Like the fact that everything in the world is a SaaS that has a separate
1287
01:06:08.180 --> 01:06:11.920
database and a separate logon is really retarded.
1288
01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:17.100
And I do think that's possibly the edge that Nostra could have still in the
1289
01:06:17.100 --> 01:06:22.960
future of like by being public key based and and trying to have standardized
1290
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:23.660
data formats.
1291
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:28.480
I think there's still a lot of opportunity there, but maybe I don't feel right
1292
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.820
now like I need a social media alternative.
1293
01:06:30.820 --> 01:06:32.740
You know, we did this whole series, right?
1294
01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:33.800
Nostra Rising series.
1295
01:06:34.060 --> 01:06:36.120
There were like one hour episodes with about 10 of them.
1296
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:37.340
They're really good.
1297
01:06:37.380 --> 01:06:39.320
People should go listen to them if you want to understand Nostra.
1298
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.640
And, you know, I was talking to Fiat Jaff.
1299
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.480
He made this point because, you know, like people say, yeah, but I don't see
1300
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:46.080
all the replies.
1301
01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:50.960
And he made this point where it's like, you know, you know, Twitter is one
1302
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:51.280
relay.
1303
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:52.620
Facebook's another relay.
1304
01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:55.880
You don't see other replies because, you know, you don't see the replies on
1305
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:57.120
Facebook on your Twitter.
1306
01:06:57.600 --> 01:06:57.960
Right.
1307
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:03.080
And the big myth that these large companies are having is that like they could
1308
01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:06.520
greatly gain from opening their networks.
1309
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:07.760
It's very counterintuitive.
1310
01:07:08.600 --> 01:07:08.700
Right.
1311
01:07:08.700 --> 01:07:13.160
Because imagine if you have a way to see like for companies go and they post
1312
01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:14.440
in every fucking network.
1313
01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:14.860
Right.
1314
01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:18.220
And it's the same post.
1315
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:18.540
Right.
1316
01:07:18.540 --> 01:07:20.860
The same marketing posts in every fucking network.
1317
01:07:21.460 --> 01:07:23.920
And imagine if you could see all those replies in the same place.
1318
01:07:23.980 --> 01:07:24.080
Right.
1319
01:07:24.080 --> 01:07:27.560
Imagine you as an artist, you post your art and then all the replies from all
1320
01:07:27.560 --> 01:07:30.500
these places come and show and you choose how these things play out.
1321
01:07:30.680 --> 01:07:30.780
Right.
1322
01:07:31.540 --> 01:07:36.560
So like if Twitter like exposed their content out, I think it would have even
1323
01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:37.980
more reach than they have now.
1324
01:07:38.560 --> 01:07:39.440
It'd be pretty crazy.
1325
01:07:41.080 --> 01:07:44.940
I mean, Zucco probably wants some of that because Facebook seems to be dying.
1326
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.900
They make all their money from Instagram and WhatsApp is the common carrier
1327
01:07:49.900 --> 01:07:51.020
outside of North America.
1328
01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:51.300
Right.
1329
01:07:51.300 --> 01:07:54.240
Like you cannot exist in Latin countries without WhatsApp.
1330
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.380
Like you talk to your lawyer over WhatsApp.
1331
01:07:57.380 --> 01:07:58.420
There's no email.
1332
01:07:58.540 --> 01:07:59.060
It's just WhatsApp.
1333
01:07:59.200 --> 01:07:59.840
WhatsApp everything.
1334
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:05.480
You order food over WhatsApp and all the segregated things depending on phone
1335
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:05.880
numbers.
1336
01:08:06.080 --> 01:08:07.740
It all feels like a house of cards.
1337
01:08:08.040 --> 01:08:08.140
Right.
1338
01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:09.840
But it's also I can see it.
1339
01:08:09.900 --> 01:08:10.000
Right.
1340
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.140
Like why would you open your network if you're a top dog and have the risk
1341
01:08:14.140 --> 01:08:16.760
of losing that monopoly on a network?
1342
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:20.260
It's very hard for you to be incentivized to open it.
1343
01:08:21.100 --> 01:08:25.399
But I do miss the Twitter APIs used to be really nice when they had them.
1344
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.960
All right.
1345
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:28.520
Yeah.
1346
01:08:28.620 --> 01:08:31.380
So a bunch of Nostra updates to every single client.
1347
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:39.120
Oh, by the way, there is now the feed marketplaces are really growing, which is
1348
01:08:39.120 --> 01:08:39.740
really cool.
1349
01:08:40.580 --> 01:08:43.899
That's common for most of the clients that are on this list that we would talk
1350
01:08:43.899 --> 01:08:44.580
about updates.
1351
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.060
You can actually load different feeds like a marketplace, like you can create
1352
01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:54.140
feeds and post them and then people can subscribe to those feeds.
1353
01:08:54.700 --> 01:08:55.819
That's super power.
1354
01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:57.300
What else?
1355
01:08:58.100 --> 01:08:58.620
Boosts.
1356
01:08:58.779 --> 01:09:01.660
Thanks for everyone who stream stats and shout out to the top boosters.
1357
01:09:02.180 --> 01:09:03.040
Ape me friend here.
1358
01:09:03.740 --> 01:09:04.779
Not long enough.
1359
01:09:05.120 --> 01:09:06.200
Was still awake at the end.
1360
01:09:06.700 --> 01:09:07.960
Man, I'm going to disappoint you again.
1361
01:09:08.100 --> 01:09:11.000
This seems to be that we got to the list fairly efficiently.
1362
01:09:12.300 --> 01:09:14.520
Odell is not here to take massive tangents.
1363
01:09:15.500 --> 01:09:17.640
So the show does run faster.
1364
01:09:19.420 --> 01:09:19.939
It's cute.
1365
01:09:21.060 --> 01:09:22.560
BTC on board.
1366
01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:23.460
Great pod.
1367
01:09:24.140 --> 01:09:26.100
Von Photo, thanks for the stats.
1368
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:27.100
Average Gary.
1369
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:32.040
Red, green, colorblind, wrecked from NVK trading advice.
1370
01:09:33.160 --> 01:09:37.300
So yes, guys, you sell on red and you buy on green.
1371
01:09:38.300 --> 01:09:39.859
This is not trading advice.
1372
01:09:43.340 --> 01:09:49.160
Did you guys see that funny post about the chicken that makes trading calls?
1373
01:09:49.160 --> 01:09:53.640
The guy figured out like he uses the chicken and he puts food like in the
1374
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.460
different calls and then the chicken makes the call and the chicken apparently
1375
01:09:57.460 --> 01:10:01.020
outperformed like most traders on Twitter.
1376
01:10:02.140 --> 01:10:03.140
It's really good.
1377
01:10:04.500 --> 01:10:09.740
I was like the anecdote that like traders in comas often outperform.
1378
01:10:11.140 --> 01:10:15.820
I saw a funny one that somebody tracking all the different stock portfolio
1379
01:10:15.820 --> 01:10:16.520
things.
1380
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.260
And like Nancy Pelosi's stock portfolio is like up like 50, 60 percent this
1381
01:10:20.260 --> 01:10:20.420
year.
1382
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.640
Like the only mainstream one that was beating her was Inverse Kramer.
1383
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.440
I mean, the Kramer one, it is amazing.
1384
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.820
Like I mean, his inversity consistency is remarkable.
1385
01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:37.040
Like nothing like it.
1386
01:10:37.140 --> 01:10:37.240
Right.
1387
01:10:37.260 --> 01:10:38.300
He's like an oracle.
1388
01:10:38.620 --> 01:10:40.080
He even called the US election.
1389
01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:40.300
Right.
1390
01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:41.740
He said Trump wasn't going to win.
1391
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:43.760
It is amazing.
1392
01:10:44.240 --> 01:10:45.480
Tech tips of the day.
1393
01:10:45.820 --> 01:10:49.600
Local send an open source cross-platform alternative to airdrop.
1394
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:52.060
Go slow with this kind of stuff.
1395
01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:53.500
You never know what kind of holes is there.
1396
01:10:54.820 --> 01:10:58.900
Disable 2G mobile connectivity for iPhone devices using lockdown mode to help
1397
01:10:58.900 --> 01:11:03.660
you protect against downgrade attacks from IMSI, cachers or FIC.
1398
01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:03.940
Yeah.
1399
01:11:04.360 --> 01:11:06.780
So 2G doesn't have a lot of security.
1400
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.460
And same with GPRS.
1401
01:11:09.980 --> 01:11:14.800
And that's how a lot of those spoofing cell towers are used in hacker
1402
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:15.720
conferences and things.
1403
01:11:15.940 --> 01:11:16.040
Yeah.
1404
01:11:16.320 --> 01:11:16.560
Interesting.
1405
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:18.980
So, yeah, lockdown mode is good for everything.
1406
01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:22.140
Just fucking run it on lockdown mode and then keep on annoying the developers
1407
01:11:22.140 --> 01:11:24.920
of apps to fix their app to work with lockdown mode.
1408
01:11:25.300 --> 01:11:26.200
That's the correct path.
1409
01:11:27.200 --> 01:11:29.480
I didn't know 2G was still in these phones.
1410
01:11:29.700 --> 01:11:30.060
That's wild.
1411
01:11:30.240 --> 01:11:30.540
Yeah, it is.
1412
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:34.180
GPRS is used in payment terminals all over the world still.
1413
01:11:34.620 --> 01:11:38.020
Maybe in third world shitholes like Europe.
1414
01:11:38.460 --> 01:11:40.460
Like many American states.
1415
01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:42.720
Nice.
1416
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:46.080
You know, like Mississippi and Europe.
1417
01:11:46.400 --> 01:11:47.200
That's the only one.
1418
01:11:47.700 --> 01:11:48.460
No, dude.
1419
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:50.700
Like, have you ever been to O'Hare Airport?
1420
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:51.780
Jesus Christ.
1421
01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:57.640
It's like I just arrived in like Bratislava or something during the, you know,
1422
01:11:57.740 --> 01:11:58.660
the Cold War or something.
1423
01:11:58.740 --> 01:11:59.340
It's pretty brutal.
1424
01:12:00.200 --> 01:12:00.380
Yeah.
1425
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.260
And the politeness of the staff really makes you feel at home.
1426
01:12:03.820 --> 01:12:04.040
Yeah.
1427
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.940
Makes up for the lack of 21st century amenities.
1428
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:08.900
Right.
1429
01:12:09.160 --> 01:12:09.660
Exactly.
1430
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:11.280
Like walls.
1431
01:12:15.460 --> 01:12:18.780
It's like essentially like a rusting hut.
1432
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:22.520
Man, US airports are brutal.
1433
01:12:23.080 --> 01:12:26.200
Highlights from recent Bitcoin Optec newsletters.
1434
01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:28.040
Disclosure vulnerability we talked about.
1435
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.520
Timeout 3 channels, factories.
1436
01:12:31.900 --> 01:12:33.880
DraftBip4D lack proofs.
1437
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:36.280
I think we talked about this a little on the last episode.
1438
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:37.380
I can't remember.
1439
01:12:38.360 --> 01:12:40.540
Andolo and Florian.
1440
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:42.900
I can't say those names, man.
1441
01:12:43.500 --> 01:12:47.400
Payment censorship in Lightning Network despite encrypted communication.
1442
01:12:48.460 --> 01:12:50.060
This came up a bit, Devs.
1443
01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:53.380
I don't know this specific paper, but the kind of the idea, a lot of these
1444
01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:58.360
new payments, the Bolt 12 is based on this idea that we're going to communicate
1445
01:12:58.360 --> 01:13:00.220
over the Lightning Network.
1446
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:01.120
Right.
1447
01:13:02.260 --> 01:13:03.740
This works going forward.
1448
01:13:04.220 --> 01:13:08.700
But basically, Bolt 12 is enough information to send a message over the
1449
01:13:08.700 --> 01:13:12.100
Lightning Network to get the actual invoice from the node.
1450
01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:14.400
So there's some nice privacy aspects to that.
1451
01:13:14.500 --> 01:13:19.860
There's also kind of a newfound reliance on Lightning as the communication
1452
01:13:19.860 --> 01:13:21.220
medium.
1453
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:22.060
Right.
1454
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.260
I mean, you know, Lightning communication should really be done over Nostra.
1455
01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:32.680
You know, Lightning messages are brutal, very inefficient and cost money.
1456
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.940
I don't think messages should go over a carrier to cost money.
1457
01:13:36.280 --> 01:13:38.140
It's just not aligning incentives.
1458
01:13:38.460 --> 01:13:41.320
Well, these messages are not, they don't cost money.
1459
01:13:41.400 --> 01:13:43.340
That's kind of almost potentially the problem.
1460
01:13:44.280 --> 01:13:44.480
Really?
1461
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:48.340
Yeah, it's like the same way that you kind of do gossip and stuff.
1462
01:13:48.500 --> 01:13:48.860
Oh, OK.
1463
01:13:48.860 --> 01:13:53.840
These are the unpaid communication that Lightning nodes do between each other.
1464
01:13:53.940 --> 01:13:58.800
And now you can, part of Bolt 12 is to use that for requesting the actual
1465
01:13:58.800 --> 01:13:59.160
invoice.
1466
01:13:59.340 --> 01:13:59.600
OK.
1467
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.900
Blockstream opens its newest research center in Lugano.
1468
01:14:04.340 --> 01:14:05.000
OK, that's marketing.
1469
01:14:06.360 --> 01:14:10.360
Caso S integrates Albi Hub, a self-studio Lightning wallet and Lightning
1470
01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:11.620
Network node.
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01:14:12.040 --> 01:14:16.840
Caso S is a community-driven open source platform focused on delivering a
1472
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.620
simple home cloud experience.
1473
01:14:19.240 --> 01:14:19.340
Cool.
1474
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:20.660
I had a double take of that one.
1475
01:14:20.780 --> 01:14:23.380
That was Caso's, like, four or five years ago.
1476
01:14:23.620 --> 01:14:24.120
I know, right?
1477
01:14:24.140 --> 01:14:25.600
They're bringing back the Raspberry Pi.
1478
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:30.100
And that was their original pitch, was like, this is the sovereign computing of
1479
01:14:30.100 --> 01:14:30.540
the future.
1480
01:14:30.860 --> 01:14:32.540
It's a different project.
1481
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:33.660
It's a different Caso.
1482
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:35.460
Not me Caso, it's you Caso.
1483
01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:37.720
Very good.
1484
01:14:41.420 --> 01:14:42.620
Johnny, where's the gong?
1485
01:14:43.540 --> 01:14:45.480
We need the gong, yes.
1486
01:14:46.700 --> 01:14:51.180
Block refocuses on Bitcoin mining equipment and BigKey reduces investment in
1487
01:14:51.180 --> 01:14:55.020
Tidal, Shutdowns, TBD, Block, Decentralized Web 5 projects.
1488
01:14:55.020 --> 01:15:04.580
I mean, TBD, TBD, TBD was the DID stuff and all those
1489
01:15:04.580 --> 01:15:05.080
things.
1490
01:15:06.240 --> 01:15:07.620
TBD got replaced by Noster.
1491
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.240
Yeah, I mean, that's a big, that's a pretty big announcement, right?
1492
01:15:11.340 --> 01:15:12.220
Like, that was a whole business.
1493
01:15:12.380 --> 01:15:15.420
I mean, like Block had like seven business units and this was one of them.
1494
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:16.800
So it's...
1495
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:21.040
TBD was going to be some sort of like decentralized exchange too.
1496
01:15:22.100 --> 01:15:26.580
Yeah, they were going to do remittances and have a big decentralized exchange
1497
01:15:26.580 --> 01:15:27.300
and all these things.
1498
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:28.420
This is the problem.
1499
01:15:28.660 --> 01:15:33.800
Like, if you hire a bunch of like researchers, you come out to research.
1500
01:15:34.580 --> 01:15:37.080
You hire business people, you come out to the business.
1501
01:15:37.080 --> 01:15:39.160
This is like the DID stuff.
1502
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:40.020
Yes.
1503
01:15:40.280 --> 01:15:45.740
They like, they like standards and like committee meetings about standards.
1504
01:15:45.980 --> 01:15:47.960
And they don't ship enough.
1505
01:15:48.320 --> 01:15:48.560
Yes.
1506
01:15:49.160 --> 01:15:51.920
Fold app introduces insured deposits.
1507
01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:53.780
That's cool.
1508
01:15:54.340 --> 01:15:56.460
Fold has a, Fold went public, man.
1509
01:15:56.540 --> 01:15:57.840
You can buy Fold FLD.
1510
01:15:58.180 --> 01:15:59.480
What exchange was it on?
1511
01:15:59.780 --> 01:16:01.500
Was it on like Canadian owners?
1512
01:16:02.060 --> 01:16:05.200
Yeah, I think, but I think they listed on NASDAQ too or something.
1513
01:16:05.400 --> 01:16:05.620
I don't know.
1514
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:05.900
Oh, really?
1515
01:16:06.280 --> 01:16:06.520
Yeah.
1516
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:12.320
And I mean, I've been trying to convince Will, the CEO of Fold, to become a
1517
01:16:12.320 --> 01:16:15.560
meme CEO, like GameStop or something, you know.
1518
01:16:16.060 --> 01:16:19.260
He can do a stock split because the stock is right now at $11.
1519
01:16:19.580 --> 01:16:20.680
So it goes like sub-dollar.
1520
01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:25.340
So he has a penny stock and then he changes his mind on TV and brings
1521
01:16:25.340 --> 01:16:25.860
it back.
1522
01:16:27.140 --> 01:16:29.000
Like all kinds of crazy shit.
1523
01:16:29.360 --> 01:16:29.500
Yeah.
1524
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:30.540
That'd be pretty funny.
1525
01:16:32.100 --> 01:16:33.940
They are offering a lot of banking services now.
1526
01:16:34.340 --> 01:16:36.340
Strike introduces Bitcoin on withdrawals.
1527
01:16:36.380 --> 01:16:36.980
That's good.
1528
01:16:37.980 --> 01:16:40.800
I think they're kind of running the sailor playbook too, or at least it sounded
1529
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:45.040
like that's one of the things they wanted to do to start becoming a publicly
1530
01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:47.540
listed, you know, Bitcoin treasury.
1531
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.380
There's that company in Japan that's doing the same thing as well.
1532
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:51.860
Yes, Metaplanet.
1533
01:16:52.140 --> 01:16:53.300
Dylan did that one.
1534
01:16:53.660 --> 01:16:55.260
Dylan convinced some people there.
1535
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:58.700
Yeah, I mean, it's like it really is amazing if you have like access to cheap
1536
01:16:58.700 --> 01:16:59.000
credit.
1537
01:16:59.140 --> 01:16:59.960
I mean, it's a money printer.
1538
01:17:00.740 --> 01:17:03.160
It's surprising more companies haven't gotten on board.
1539
01:17:03.240 --> 01:17:04.280
It's like it's quite shot.
1540
01:17:04.440 --> 01:17:09.020
Like when you think of all these Fortune 500 CEOs with their thumb up their ass
1541
01:17:09.020 --> 01:17:11.320
watching, watching Saylor being the third.
1542
01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:12.880
Are you like surprised?
1543
01:17:13.220 --> 01:17:15.780
Remember when Bitcoin was starting out, like people would not buy Bitcoin
1544
01:17:15.780 --> 01:17:17.260
because it's clearly for drug dealers.
1545
01:17:17.440 --> 01:17:18.700
You know, it's just like it's hopeless.
1546
01:17:18.900 --> 01:17:21.360
I mean, I've been I've been thinking about this a lot in the last couple of
1547
01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:25.740
days because at least it seems like, you know, like it's changing too early.
1548
01:17:25.980 --> 01:17:29.360
Well, it's too early to say, but it seems like the nation states may be
1549
01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:30.860
actually biting on Bitcoin, right?
1550
01:17:30.900 --> 01:17:34.220
Like that's what these, you know, David Bailey and stuff is telling us.
1551
01:17:34.220 --> 01:17:36.900
Who knows if it's true, but I have a friend.
1552
01:17:37.120 --> 01:17:38.300
I have some rumors.
1553
01:17:38.300 --> 01:17:38.760
Yeah.
1554
01:17:39.040 --> 01:17:42.060
So but I mean, like the price action is like, you know, seems to somewhat
1555
01:17:42.060 --> 01:17:42.720
support it.
1556
01:17:43.100 --> 01:17:43.480
So who knows?
1557
01:17:43.540 --> 01:17:45.140
Like probably probably be us.
1558
01:17:45.380 --> 01:17:49.780
But we do have sitting senators and the president saying it's going to, you
1559
01:17:49.780 --> 01:17:53.360
know, the U.S. is going to do it is kind of is interesting, you know,
1560
01:17:53.380 --> 01:17:57.420
like maybe it seems like corporations are much more conservative when it comes
1561
01:17:57.420 --> 01:18:01.500
to Bitcoin than potentially states are kind of thought provoking.
1562
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:05.340
I mean, it's nobody wants to lose their job making the proposition and the
1563
01:18:05.340 --> 01:18:06.060
price goes down.
1564
01:18:06.300 --> 01:18:06.600
Yeah.
1565
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:10.960
I mean, that's the thing is like these people that get to the top of companies
1566
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:14.700
are extraordinarily conservative, you know, like they are.
1567
01:18:14.860 --> 01:18:18.280
They did everything according to the book, especially the finance guy.
1568
01:18:18.360 --> 01:18:19.700
It's like the most conservative guy.
1569
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:25.040
And I think maybe the people that get this top of states had to make some,
1570
01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:27.680
you know, some more some bigger moves.
1571
01:18:27.780 --> 01:18:27.980
Right.
1572
01:18:28.080 --> 01:18:30.180
Like have a guy killed.
1573
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.780
Well, hearing the back story of the whole Biden thing is like funny.
1574
01:18:34.780 --> 01:18:38.800
It seems like they tried to, you know, replace Biden and have an open primary.
1575
01:18:39.080 --> 01:18:42.240
And Biden is just like decides to blow the whole thing up by endorsing Kamala.
1576
01:18:42.340 --> 01:18:42.520
Right.
1577
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:45.660
It's like you get a sense of how that guy accumulated so much power.
1578
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:50.420
I mean, he's just like a brutal, you know, player.
1579
01:18:50.820 --> 01:18:51.220
Yeah.
1580
01:18:52.300 --> 01:18:54.840
1031 launches Bitcoin Alpha, a new podcast.
1581
01:18:55.100 --> 01:18:58.220
I can't tell if it's a joke or not because I'm getting 404.
1582
01:18:58.880 --> 01:18:59.200
Oh, no.
1583
01:18:59.940 --> 01:19:00.600
Bitcoin Alpha.
1584
01:19:01.620 --> 01:19:02.320
There you go.
1585
01:19:02.440 --> 01:19:03.920
I've seen Marty posting about it.
1586
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:06.700
This is Marty's fifth or sixth podcast at this point.
1587
01:19:07.500 --> 01:19:10.120
OK, I listened to one of the episodes.
1588
01:19:10.340 --> 01:19:11.340
Very, very good stuff.
1589
01:19:11.740 --> 01:19:12.980
OK, I'm going to listen to it.
1590
01:19:13.280 --> 01:19:15.780
Clean Spark finalized acquisition of grid infrastructure.
1591
01:19:16.400 --> 01:19:16.980
Bitcoin mining.
1592
01:19:17.180 --> 01:19:22.580
Yeah, this guy's grid got acquired or merged.
1593
01:19:25.620 --> 01:19:28.500
Nosto Show is now live in Australia and New Zealand.
1594
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:32.780
Not interested in this shit for this show.
1595
01:19:32.780 --> 01:19:36.760
Funding OpenSats announces eighth wave of Nostra grants.
1596
01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:45.040
Farmster Group's coop, not coop, co-op, Nostrability and NIP44 libraries audit.
1597
01:19:46.220 --> 01:19:50.140
NIP44 is not DMs. That's something I really want.
1598
01:19:50.460 --> 01:19:55.720
Yeah, that could be Nostra's killer app if it just had a good open protocol for
1599
01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:56.760
DMs. Yeah.
1600
01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:59.400
So there is a better that NIP44 is broken.
1601
01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:01.940
It's like don't don't use Nostra DMs as they are.
1602
01:20:02.780 --> 01:20:08.900
Jeff G is working on an MLS integration with Nostra that is like fully native
1603
01:20:08.900 --> 01:20:09.460
to Nostra.
1604
01:20:09.820 --> 01:20:10.220
It's great.
1605
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:12.260
It's really progressing.
1606
01:20:13.340 --> 01:20:15.260
So that's moving along.
1607
01:20:17.180 --> 01:20:19.780
Many ratchets, all kinds of ratchets.
1608
01:20:20.280 --> 01:20:22.200
We had a whole episode on it.
1609
01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:28.520
Mining Dutch telecom subsidiary MMS collaborates with blah, blah, blah, blah,
1610
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:29.640
blah, blah, blah, blah.
1611
01:20:30.240 --> 01:20:30.980
Moving on.
1612
01:20:31.860 --> 01:20:33.440
The Dutch have telecoms?
1613
01:20:34.660 --> 01:20:35.700
I know, right?
1614
01:20:36.240 --> 01:20:36.700
With a K.
1615
01:20:38.180 --> 01:20:38.740
Privacy.
1616
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:42.760
British activist and journalist Tommy Robbins was sentenced to 18 months in
1617
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:44.200
prison for failing to unlock his phone.
1618
01:20:44.300 --> 01:20:44.540
Police.
1619
01:20:44.660 --> 01:20:45.860
This is all so fucked up.
1620
01:20:47.300 --> 01:20:54.100
TD Bank anti laundering money employee is indicted for unlawful distribution of
1621
01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:56.740
customer's personal information.
1622
01:20:57.860 --> 01:20:58.540
Classic.
1623
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.360
The KYC is the crime.
1624
01:21:02.340 --> 01:21:05.480
Kenya to require incoming passengers to declare phone IME.
1625
01:21:06.140 --> 01:21:06.800
Jesus Christ.
1626
01:21:06.860 --> 01:21:08.960
Talk about tracking people when they come into the country.
1627
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:16.480
Apple adds inactive inactivity timer feature to iOS 18.1 that reboots iPhones
1628
01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:17.800
after prolonged inactivity.
1629
01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:19.140
Why is that?
1630
01:21:19.780 --> 01:21:24.420
That was the NSA remote remote watching getting hung up.
1631
01:21:24.420 --> 01:21:28.840
It says researchers confirm the feature shifts iPhones from after first unlock
1632
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:31.380
to the more secure before first unlock state.
1633
01:21:31.700 --> 01:21:36.960
So it's harder for forensic tools to extract your data if you go to a before
1634
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:38.160
first unlock state.
1635
01:21:38.300 --> 01:21:38.800
That's cool.
1636
01:21:39.180 --> 01:21:44.060
Like with an iPhone, when you restarted, it always asks you to, you know, your
1637
01:21:44.060 --> 01:21:45.380
passphrase again.
1638
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:45.780
Yep.
1639
01:21:45.820 --> 01:21:47.060
The whole chain of stuff they do.
1640
01:21:47.900 --> 01:21:49.720
Like it makes it harder to break into.
1641
01:21:50.400 --> 01:21:50.720
Yep.
1642
01:21:50.820 --> 01:21:52.700
Always turn off your phone to cross borders.
1643
01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:54.880
Ren Crypto.
1644
01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:57.860
Oh, you know, phones really need is a decoy pin, right?
1645
01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:02.900
You type that pin, it closes down the other session and then shows some some
1646
01:22:02.900 --> 01:22:03.440
normie.
1647
01:22:03.660 --> 01:22:06.000
Everything can be fixed with a decoy pin.
1648
01:22:06.300 --> 01:22:06.720
Everything.
1649
01:22:07.020 --> 01:22:09.820
Seriously, like plausible deniability is your friend.
1650
01:22:10.200 --> 01:22:10.380
Yeah.
1651
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:11.360
So is Candy Crush.
1652
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:14.840
Every phone needs a Candy Crush pin.
1653
01:22:15.500 --> 01:22:15.880
That's right.
1654
01:22:16.700 --> 01:22:20.980
Ren Crypto Fish, Steve Lee and Lynn Alden publish analyzing Bitcoin consensus
1655
01:22:20.980 --> 01:22:23.680
risks in protocol updates.
1656
01:22:24.340 --> 01:22:29.020
I'm really excited to so that there's a Citadel Dispatch episode about this
1657
01:22:29.020 --> 01:22:30.060
now, too.
1658
01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:32.660
I want to listen to that and I want to read through this.
1659
01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:37.280
But they're trying to, as far as I can understand, they're trying to just paint
1660
01:22:37.280 --> 01:22:43.400
a picture of how Bitcoin consensus actually works and the actual risks.
1661
01:22:43.400 --> 01:22:49.360
Like just people have a lot of half formed ideas about these things.
1662
01:22:49.580 --> 01:22:56.160
And then we have conversations and debates that are typically, you know, are
1663
01:22:56.160 --> 01:23:01.020
often ill-informed or just partially this.
1664
01:23:01.160 --> 01:23:02.340
There's a lot of misunderstandings.
1665
01:23:02.440 --> 01:23:04.500
It's a huge surface area to understand.
1666
01:23:04.620 --> 01:23:09.660
So I respect them for, like, trying to trying to tackle this and excited to
1667
01:23:09.660 --> 01:23:10.520
actually check it out.
1668
01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:13.920
I think the problem is every time somebody tries to do this, they get something
1669
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:17.320
like brutally wrong and then people are even more confused.
1670
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:18.960
I actually like that.
1671
01:23:19.320 --> 01:23:22.640
I don't think there is like a fixed way of looking at Bitcoin consensus.
1672
01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:25.640
I think it's like sort of like it varies a little bit depending on what's
1673
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:30.040
happening in Bitcoin because the players change and the players sort of power
1674
01:23:30.040 --> 01:23:30.720
change, too.
1675
01:23:30.820 --> 01:23:32.180
And that changes the dynamic itself.
1676
01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:36.880
And I think they even say that like this is not a roadmap for how to
1677
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:37.560
change Bitcoin.
1678
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:44.100
It's just they're trying to be descriptive of how Bitcoin has been changed in
1679
01:23:44.100 --> 01:23:44.620
the past.
1680
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:45.120
Why?
1681
01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:47.700
Let's leave it confusing so nobody can attack Bitcoin.
1682
01:23:47.860 --> 01:23:49.940
Yeah, I mean, I think it's not a roadmap.
1683
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:51.340
Oh, I see.
1684
01:23:51.500 --> 01:23:56.240
But any any greater understanding, you know, does inform people how to change
1685
01:23:56.240 --> 01:23:56.400
it.
1686
01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:58.600
Well, you don't want security through obscurity.
1687
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.980
Then just somebody smarter than you is going to figure it out.
1688
01:24:02.340 --> 01:24:04.260
No, like I don't buy that.
1689
01:24:04.260 --> 01:24:09.080
You know, I bet that most systems that are closed source became open source.
1690
01:24:09.220 --> 01:24:12.980
You'd immediately find so many bugs that were just not visible for you to
1691
01:24:12.980 --> 01:24:13.640
attack before.
1692
01:24:14.260 --> 01:24:15.880
You know, some obscurity does help.
1693
01:24:16.120 --> 01:24:17.460
You can't depend on it.
1694
01:24:17.740 --> 01:24:18.720
It's not really obscurity, though.
1695
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:20.080
It's disagreement, too, right?
1696
01:24:20.360 --> 01:24:21.260
There is that, too.
1697
01:24:21.380 --> 01:24:26.800
If I was trying to propose a soft fork in a year, I would maybe want
1698
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:31.780
to get everyone to agree on how soft forks are agreed upon and deployed before
1699
01:24:31.780 --> 01:24:32.980
I attempt my move.
1700
01:24:32.980 --> 01:24:35.680
Well, isn't that kind of what happened with Taproot?
1701
01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:40.660
Like everybody, we like, the moment there was like an agreement on how to do a
1702
01:24:40.660 --> 01:24:42.020
soft fork, there was like.
1703
01:24:42.980 --> 01:24:47.240
I mean, I guess because we wanted Taproot, maybe Taproot was the cause of that.
1704
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:54.740
Yeah, you know, again, it's one of those things that it's not clear cut.
1705
01:24:55.620 --> 01:24:59.400
And I think when people try to create a description of it that is like that's
1706
01:24:59.400 --> 01:25:01.480
fixed, they get it wrong.
1707
01:25:01.480 --> 01:25:03.680
I mean, I'd love to read it.
1708
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:04.980
I should read it.
1709
01:25:05.200 --> 01:25:07.040
You know, I'm not trying to criticize them.
1710
01:25:07.160 --> 01:25:08.520
I'm very curious about what they wrote.
1711
01:25:08.620 --> 01:25:10.020
I'm sure it's a lot of good in there.
1712
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:11.940
But Bitcoin is still one of those things.
1713
01:25:12.020 --> 01:25:13.720
It's like it's going to keep on changing.
1714
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:15.040
The dynamics change.
1715
01:25:17.080 --> 01:25:19.140
Well, they also said PR is welcome.
1716
01:25:19.500 --> 01:25:20.560
It's a living document.
1717
01:25:21.240 --> 01:25:21.840
There you go.
1718
01:25:23.100 --> 01:25:25.460
Somebody's going to make a PR there for Neil.
1719
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:29.680
And force push.
1720
01:25:31.360 --> 01:25:38.200
BIP 1676 updates the status of BIP 85 to final as it's now widely deployed.
1721
01:25:38.360 --> 01:25:39.600
Oh, this was such a shit show.
1722
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:42.060
It's nice to see it.
1723
01:25:43.380 --> 01:25:46.480
That is getting marked as final.
1724
01:25:48.940 --> 01:25:55.640
LDK issue 3207 adds the ability to include invoice requests in the async
1725
01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:59.040
payments and messages when paying static bill 12.
1726
01:26:00.100 --> 01:26:02.480
Government and political stuff.
1727
01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:04.880
Anything actually interesting here?
1728
01:26:05.440 --> 01:26:06.540
Or it was just charges.
1729
01:26:06.900 --> 01:26:11.140
Outum exchange operator of laundering funds linked to the Silk Road.
1730
01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:19.760
Bitcoin Fog alleged operator Roman Sterlingov has been sentenced to 12 years
1731
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:21.180
prison for money laundering.
1732
01:26:21.260 --> 01:26:24.380
Money laundering is like just they just invent whatever charges, right?
1733
01:26:24.380 --> 01:26:28.100
It's like it's like a random sort of like, oh, you're sending the money this
1734
01:26:28.100 --> 01:26:28.380
way.
1735
01:26:30.020 --> 01:26:30.520
Jail.
1736
01:26:31.440 --> 01:26:32.960
It's the new tax evasion.
1737
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:34.080
Yeah, totally.
1738
01:26:35.340 --> 01:26:39.420
Argentina's central bank hosts a live Bitcoin mining art exhibit.
1739
01:26:39.900 --> 01:26:41.380
That Argentina one is kind of cool.
1740
01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:46.620
It's like they're doing it like an art installation with running ASICs.
1741
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:47.620
That's kind of cool.
1742
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:49.320
That's cool.
1743
01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:55.080
The Bank of International Settlements exits cross-border payments project
1744
01:26:55.080 --> 01:26:56.200
Enbridge.
1745
01:26:56.940 --> 01:27:03.780
Sovereignty concerns arise over euro as European Union and European Central
1746
01:27:03.780 --> 01:27:05.680
Bank debate control.
1747
01:27:05.980 --> 01:27:09.160
Jesus, Europe is such a fucking communist shithole these days.
1748
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.760
Man, I feel I feel so bad for my European friends.
1749
01:27:13.040 --> 01:27:17.040
Like, man, it's weird how bad it goes there.
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Like, it makes Canada look like fucking like Disneyland of freedom events.
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BTC Hell, the first ever large scale Bitcoin conference in Nordics, Helsinki.
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BTC Hell, interesting name for a conference.
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With an E for Helsinki, but it doesn't it doesn't pronounce right.
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This is this is where they're going to hash out all the consensus mechanisms,
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BTC Hell.
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That's right.
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A list of reads, ossification by Jameson Lobb, quantum computing between hope
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and hype by Scott Arson, Erson.
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You can do it, Enrique, you can do it.
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One more try, one more try.
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Erson, Erson.
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Oh, there we go.
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Analyzing Bitcoin consensus risks in protocol upgrades by Redfin, Steve Lee and
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Lee Alden.
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Why I'm betting big on Nostra by Hive Mind Ventures.
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The case against Edits by PHF, that's a good one.
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Digital Gold, evaluating strategic Bitcoin reserve for the United States by
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Bitcoin Policy Institute.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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There you go.
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I don't want countries to have Bitcoin.
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Like, I don't want governments to have anything.
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I don't want other countries to have Bitcoin, I don't want my country to have
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Bitcoin.
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Well, there is that.
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Yeah, that is one way of looking at it, for sure.
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Hey, guys, did we miss anything?
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Anything you guys come to mind?
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I think we covered a lot today, very, very efficiently.
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A lot.
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I believe this is the longest list that has ever been, pushing the limits of
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GitHub Gists, I believe.
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Dude, no, we had lists that were almost three hours long.
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The lists are short right now.
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They get, let's see, they get, Johnny's talking here, they get longer, much
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longer, see?
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Yeah, it's just that Justin, Justin is, it's not used to hard work now for a
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while.
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So, like, you know, it's OK.
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Now that, now that he's got a lot more free time, he's going to, he's going
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to be on the show more often.
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He can read his resume at the beginning of the show.
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I'm a co-founder of the show, I believe.
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That's right.
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You were, you were.
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That's at the beginning of my resume.
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Yeah.
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MVK had his tail between his legs at the beginning.
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He was just so frightened by the microphone.
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So we needed to, you know, to bring in some courageous alpha males like me and
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Odell to just help him, help him get going at the beginning.
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Wow.
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Justin and Odell are the alpha males here.
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Like, we're really a bottom show.
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Oh, guys, listen, thank you so much for coming on and being helpful here with
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all this commits and all this updates.
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Justin, any final thoughts?
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Yeah, I mean, see you next time.
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Yeah, I enjoy your, your cretin binge.
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Yeah.
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Future Paul, any final thoughts?
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Bullish on the great script restoration.
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Let's do it.
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Awesome, guys.
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Thank you, buddies.
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Thanks for listening.
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For more resources, check the show notes.
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We put a lot of effort into them.
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And remember, we don't have a crystal ball.
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So let us know about your project.
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Hello and welcome back to the Bitcoin.review, the podcast about the price.
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We're going to be talking about the Bitcoin price for two hours and 45 minutes.
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And today with me.
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Finally, somebody to tackle the hard conversations.
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There you go.
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Somebody already tackled my opening.
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Nobody knows anything is the quote of the day.
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Very appropriate.
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Mr. Justin, Unemployed Justin, welcome back to the show.
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It's great to be back.
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It's been a while.
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I haven't paid attention to Bitcoin at all in a couple of months.
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So I'm curious to hear what the price is these days.
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Mr. Paul, Future Paul.
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Hello.
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Thank you for having me.
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I have also pivoted.
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This is the unemployment show.
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So I have two great candidates here.
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They're going to fight to the death for a job at doing some web design for
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Bitcoin.review. Yes.
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What a time to be unemployed.
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Perfect timing, guys.
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I really nailed it.
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It's great.
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I love it.
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I guess, I mean, where do we even start after an opening like that?
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Do you guys want to address any of your current gigs or previous gigs or do
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we move on?
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I can talk a little bit about what we're doing now.
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I do like it.
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Mutiny, we'd always talk about how we're going to have the best wallet right in
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time for the bull run.
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We got one part right.
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But yeah, so the pivot where we are kind of coming a little out of stealth
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now.
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We're doing this thing called OpenSecret.
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You can go to OpenSecret.cloud. Basically, it's like an encrypted backend.
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So trying to kind of improve the UX of like private key management and
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encrypted data storage for app developers.
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So and we also have like a demo product called Maple, which is an encrypted AI
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chat.
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So if you go to OpenSecret.cloud, you can find stuff about that.
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So now it's very cool.
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What is an encrypted AI chat, Paul, could you explain that?
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Well, it's like there is a coin and you buy the coin.
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I asked Paul, this hairy guy keeps interrupting.
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It's encrypted from the browser to our server, which is running in a AWS
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Enclave to the GPU.
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So nobody in that whole chain can see what you're chatting.
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And we also store your history and we also can't see that.
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So thanks to the power of cryptography, that puts the crypto in crypto.
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We can we even have attestation that you can verify from your web browser that
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we aren't looking at your chats.
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So it's pretty cool.
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It's pretty cool stack.
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And it's basically a demonstration of what OpenSecret is going to make possible
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for regular devs.
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We should get you to implement that on Unleash.chat. Hmm, yeah, there's some
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users there.
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Yeah, stop spying on your users.
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Yeah, no, we can't see their stuff either.
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Like we architected so we would have to build tooling.
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If we build tooling, you could see it.
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Because like you still can't encrypt on the GPU side, right?
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No, this is encrypted through to the GPU.
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But then the GPU can see it.
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If you can see it, you can see it.
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No, the H100s have the same kind of secure enclave thing all the way to it.
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So it goes all the way to the end.
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So it's operating on encrypted memory.
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So, yes, if you are literally a transistor inside of the GPU, you might see
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something spicy go by.
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Just like what's SGX.
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No backdoors.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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We promise.
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Very similar trust model.
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No, but it's already a huge leap.
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Like, listen, you're not going to you can't run shit on servers and think that
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people can't see it.
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It's just that, like, it's great when the people working at the company can't
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see it.
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It's a huge improvement.
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Right.
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You're making it making this the default.
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Yeah.
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Like don't don't store your life savings in this kind of system.
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But this is a lot better than your average, like unencrypted Postgres database.
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You know, that would be great.
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It's like ChattyPT, how many bitcoins are there in these 12 words?
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And money gone.
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All right.
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So where's my list?
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It disappeared here.
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Justin, do you want to pitch anything?
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No, these days I'm mostly making pizzas and chicken wings.
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I basically have opened up a restaurant in my apartment at this point.
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My entire porch is just full of Weber grill accessories, just like from floor
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to ceiling.
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Nice.
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Pretty unbelievable.
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I do it.
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I do have a fatty sticker and a few pieces of luggage I have.
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It's like a nice little circle, shiny circle.
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It's a great it's a great circular sticker, as you said, in a circle.
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It's a circular sticker in a circle.
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And it's shiny.
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Yeah.
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The shiny should have given away.
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All right.
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Housekeeping.
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Well, there's some new tutorials for cold card.
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And if people want to buy one, I highly recommend not waiting too long because
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the price pump makes the inventory disappear.
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And if you're only changing your security when the Bitcoin price pumps, man,
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good luck.
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You know, do it in calm when the price is down.
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But, you know, it's still not too late.
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All right.
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Urgent vulnerability disclosures.
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Critical severity, private key extraction, vulnerability in SecP256k1 node
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affecting ECDSH.
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This was a node library.
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Of course, it's the JavaScript people who fucked it up.
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And it's really bad, like really, really, really, really, really bad.
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The attackers can retrieve private keys using low order curve points through
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only 11 ECDH sessions.
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Math can be a bitch.
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Right.
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So they re-implemented.
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Of course, in JavaScript.
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SecP in JavaScript.
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And deliver through node.
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Because there is nothing safer than going out, NPN, update my crypto library
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and sign.
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It says it's a binding.
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It's probably the glue, right?
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Like how we have Libndu for cold card.
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OK, so not a full re-implementation, but somehow the binding still was bad.
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Yeah, but how are they leaking the keys if they're not doing some math there?
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They must be doing a bit more than just the bindings.
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The low cardinality curves.
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So there's some check that they don't have that allows the attacker to use
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public keys on low cardinality curves.
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So if someone knows what that means, they can probably have my money.
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It's the wrong group.
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Where's Rendell when you need him?
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Yeah.
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Medium severity disclosure of hindered block propagation due to stalling peers.
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Another Bitcoin Core vulnerability allows attackers to delay block downloads by
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stalling peer nodes.
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So this one is more like the same sort of, not the same type, but the
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same effect as the previous one.
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I think essentially it can kind of like crash some Bitcoin Core nodes.
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Again, it's only a problem for people like running like Lightning and stuff
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like that.
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Normal users, not a big deal.
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All right, Bitcoin software releases and project updates.
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Bitcoin Core version 27.2 netfix, race conditioning, self-connect, detection,
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init, change shutdown order of load, block, thread, and scheduler.
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RPC fix causes of calls to field PSBT errantly returning complete equals true.
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PSBT check non-witness UTXO output early.
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Test fix constructor of message TX.
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A few other things.
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Electris version 0.10.7, support testnet 4, enable LTO in release build, don't
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sync mempool when Bitcoin D mempool is not yet loaded.
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Electris is now like one of the main users of Electrum servers, right?
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I think so.
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Yeah, there's a whole bunch of different like forks.
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Like, I think mempool uses something like either a fork of this or this one.
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Right.
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I think it's for those two.
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There is also, what's it, Fulcrum.
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Fulcrum is supposed to be the high performance one, I think, or no longer true.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, the B-caches are cornering the market on Electrum servers at this point.
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Well, they have a concern about catching up with blocks, right?
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They're more invested in Bitcoin research, right?
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This is what you call a motivated developer.
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That's right.
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It's amazing what's possible.
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That's right.
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Here's your one terabyte block.
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Now eat all that data and index it before 10, 20 minutes.
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All right.
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BTC pay server version 2.0.2, critical vulnerability disclosure for Nostr or
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Blink plugin users.
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Without it, an attacker with access to a pool payment could drain the Lightning
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wallet without limit.
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What is a pool payment?
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It's like, I think those like LNERL invoice types, like you just tell the node
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to pay whatever if you're using one of the cards.
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Wouldn't anyone with access to a pool payment be able to drain the wallet
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regardless, unless maybe there are limits or something?
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, that's that's how the pool card works.
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Pool payment sounds kind of terrifying.
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Yeah, it looks like the bug was they were incorrectly marking the payment as
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canceled, even though it actually went.
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So you probably already had a you had a valid one, I'm guessing.
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And then you know, I see.
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And then we're not checking the limit or something like that.
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Well, it's fixed.
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I haven't I haven't played with BTC pay in a few years.
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I would love to see where it is these days.
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They've they've come along, like I'm just waiting for the Python version, the
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version 2.0 was out recently.
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Interface localization, sidebar navigation looks like a bunch of updates.
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This is huge.
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Yeah, I mean, they've been working on this saga for like six years now, right?
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Like they started in like 2018.
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So they've I bet it's I mean, it was it was usable in like 2019 or
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20, you know, when I was using it.
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Imagine it's pretty impressive now.
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For sure.
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Libsac 256k1 version 0.6.0, add a new module for Moosig, implements the Moosig
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2 signature scheme according to BIP 327 specifications.
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That's pretty awesome.
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At long last.
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At long last.
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New CMake variable, 256k1 append LD flags for appending linker flags to the
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build command.
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And they made a few changes.
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This is the GOAT crypto library.
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Not the Node version, sorry.
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When, you know, when was Taproot, two, three years ago?
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And Moosig was one of the big selling points of it.
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And it's amazing that it takes like three years for that.
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This is a good example of how hard cryptography is.
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You're like, oh, we have a new cryptographic primitive.
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Now we can do this thing called Moosig.
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Three years later.
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Right.
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And then like, you know, Persian cat meme comes about, you know, it's like,
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yeah.
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And it's not because the people working on it are not working on it or, you
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know, you have the brightest people in Bitcoin working on it diligently.
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And it still takes three years.
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Like that's a good, that's a good example of how difficult cryptography is.
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But that's the difference between Bitcoin and Ethereum, right?
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And Ethereum did have just like push the server on Friday.
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Like, fuck it, the day after.
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Yeah.
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And money gone, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, it's kind of a big deal, especially like, you know, the guys do the
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hard work of building the math and then you have to implement it on the library
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and then you have to create the bindings.
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And then you have to create like the actual client software that uses the shit.
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I mean, security proof and stuff like that.
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And then, yeah, it's a lot.
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And these things are like, you know, a huge fucking deal for the wallets to
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also implement, too.
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Somebody has to write those tests.
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Speaking of Ethereum, have you seen that price of Ethereum, like Ethereum's
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price action in the last six months where it's just like in a band relative to
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Bitcoin, just going like straight down?
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It's pretty brutal.
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It's the most beautiful graph I've seen in years.
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You know, it's the only price for that shit thing is zero.
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Bitcoin Keeper mobile version 1.2.18, selected Electrum servers during app
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setup, add support for 22s, support USB option enabled for cold card and Jade
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via the desktop app, tap signer, verify initial status and backup count.
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Received screen now enables multi multiple addresses and a bunch of other
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things.
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The tap signer support is kind of cool.
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They do the other operations like changing the pin and doing other things, too,
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which is nice.
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Ben is injected like a lot of life into the project there and they're doing a
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lot of stuff.
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Liana version 8.0, template heaven, Liana daemon library, a new field for last
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full time stamp was added to the.
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It's pronounced daemon.
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I know.
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I can't.
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I can't.
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I'm too ESL, dude.
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Just too ESL.
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Respect the immigrants.
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Was added to the wallet table.
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About two weeks too late for that, NVK, I'm sorry.
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I know, right?
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Shit, you know, like I can't cross the border anymore.
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They're going to ship everybody out.
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The new Bitcoin D28 version is now downloaded by the GUI and a bunch of other
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updates.
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I got to say, this is just a catastrophically long list, NVK.
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You guys have really been doing your homework here.
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Oh, dude, you have no idea.
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You haven't been in the show.
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This is like a 15 page list.
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You came to the first, second or third episode of the show and then you got
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employed and then you disappeared so that you wouldn't put your foot in your
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mouth during air.
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And then you come back and we're professionals now, dude.
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Like, look at this.
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We got lists and shit.
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It's really amazing.
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I'm really proud of you.
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Rudolfo, is that how you say it?
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It's Rudolfo, with the H, right?
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Brazilians can't pronounce R as I was reading.
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Oh, my God.
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Chances of employment at CoinKite dropping to zero fast here.
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Yeah, I mean, if I was, it would only last about six months, though, right?
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Dude, not even.
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It tends to be how it goes.
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It'd be like, you know, first thing he does is create a water cooler channel
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and says, good morning.
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It's like, fired.
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I asked Peter one question in a GitHub issue just immediately terminated.
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It's like, it's like, get close and fire, you know, like it literally drops.
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There's a script to watch for that.
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It kills all your access to everything.
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I post a screenshot with a color scheme on my Vim and then Peter just
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terminates.
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That's right.
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I mean, he is on green and black and green.
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There is no coloring.
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Yeah, I know.
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Black and green.
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Like one.
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Yeah, I know.
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That was the joke.
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I was just, you just explained the joke.
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Yes.
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It was not clear.
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You know, when it's not a good joke, right?
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Then you have to explain.
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Yes.
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Rudolph.
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Rudolpho.
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I think I say version 1.0.0 B3.
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They updated a bunch of stuff.
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It's a little nice, interesting project.
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They help you set up your multi-sig and also seems like a fork of Electrum
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in the GUI.
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It's beautiful to see how many of these little multi-sig kind of coordinator
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projects.
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There's like 10 of them at this point, almost.
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It really shows how multi-sig is nearly unusable.
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When's Junction coming out, Justin?
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Yeah, me and Paul did a little work on a multi-sig thing a couple of
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years ago.
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And I kind of was like, Jesus, I don't want to try to convince people to
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use this.
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This is the problem, right?
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Like, it's like, there's always those people on Twitter.
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They're like, you know, no multi-sig is the solution.
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And I'm like, dude, have you ever looked under the hood at the amount of like
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room there is to like completely foot gun yourself?
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It's really bad.
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I mean, I still love it.
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Yes.
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No, I use it.
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I set one up and it is very, like, if you can get it, it is
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very, gives you a lot of peace of mind.
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Yeah.
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But it was kind of overwhelming for me who knew every nut and bolt of what
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was happening to get it, you know, to get the whole thing to work.
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It's terrifying.
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But you can ease into it, right?
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You can set it up and put some money in and kind of try and test
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that a couple of times.
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I think the best thing for most people is like, you know, use single sig
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passphrase.
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Once you're comfortable with that, very comfortable with that.
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Then you go and you set up, you know, like you go on Sparrow or something,
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you set up a two out of three, you know, do it all yourself.
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Get used to that, send and receive some money, test some shit, figure out where
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you're going to put three backups.
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And then slowly, right?
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Like, because the thing is, a lot of these protocols or this sort of like
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assisted multisig set up, they're very custom.
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It does sort of like, you know, it could hurt you if you don't know what
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you're doing.
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Yeah, it was funny.
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I tried, I opened Sparrow a while ago and it hit the import wallet button and
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import wallet gives you a menu of 30 different wallet formats that you can
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import.
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It was almost comical.
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Every one of these wallets has their own format.
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Yeah.
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Yay.
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EBSMS was going to fix everything you didn't.
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Yay, open source.
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Yeah.
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Open source is going to take over the world, Rudolfo.
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It is.
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It is.
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Open source is great.
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Protocol should be open source.
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RoboSats, version 0.7.2, improved recovery robot form and a bunch of other
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updates.
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What are Nostr order books?
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Yeah, so I think they're using Nostr to do the whole bids and asks.
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That's pretty fun.
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The way it should be, hopefully with ephemeral keys, but otherwise all your
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bids and asks are public on your Nostr Twitter.
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Yeah, that's really neat.
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RoboSats seems like one of those ones where a community really developed behind
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it and they're really moving forward.
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Excited to see.
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I mean, they have some volume stats, I think, on their website.
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I remember seeing that at a bit test.
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It seemed like it's been growing.
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I mean, they've been around, like we've been covering them now for at least a
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couple of years.
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Yeah, if you go to learn.robosats.com stats, you know, it's pretty consistent
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up and to the right.
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Great.
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BitKey firmware, version 1.0.91, faster transaction signing, hardware now signs
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transactions up to five times faster.
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Rust Blitz version 1.11.3, optimized to run on plain Debian 12 Linux for Prox,
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Mox, VM.
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Rust Blitz, Rust Blitz is cool, by the way, people should check it out.
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ESP Miner version 2.3.1b1, we work how we publish artifacts, use the same ESP
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expressive IDF release for GitHub and VS Code.
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ESP Miner is an ASIC miner for ESP 32.
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That's kind of extinct.
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Yeah, the BidAxe thing, right?
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Yeah, it's like a lottery mining, you know, like you barely make it through
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like one round.
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Bolts Exchange, the client in the web app got updated.
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All right, Project Spotlight, Frost, a flexible round optimized threshold
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signature library for BIP 340 taproot.
436
00:22:29.950 --> 00:22:31.310
Isn't this Frost, Frost?
437
00:22:32.270 --> 00:22:34.990
Or is this some implementation of Frost?
438
00:22:36.210 --> 00:22:40.150
This looks like a different implementation to CMD Druid, it's not like, it's
439
00:22:40.150 --> 00:22:41.210
just in his personal GitHub.
440
00:22:41.770 --> 00:22:42.490
It's the same name.
441
00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:42.950
Yeah.
442
00:22:43.310 --> 00:22:45.090
Great, that's definitely not going to cause confusion.
443
00:22:45.550 --> 00:22:47.370
Oh, wait, is this CMD Druid?
444
00:22:47.570 --> 00:22:48.250
Who is this?
445
00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:49.690
Is this Topher?
446
00:22:50.170 --> 00:22:51.370
Feels like it's Topher, yeah.
447
00:22:52.090 --> 00:22:54.090
I think that's, yeah, maybe we know him.
448
00:22:55.190 --> 00:22:57.430
Yo, is this, is it in JavaScript?
449
00:22:57.430 --> 00:22:58.090
Yeah.
450
00:22:58.690 --> 00:23:00.230
No, it's TypeScript.
451
00:23:00.670 --> 00:23:01.510
Sorry, TypeScript.
452
00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:05.210
Yeah, because he was doing, he was doing BidEscro stuff.
453
00:23:05.970 --> 00:23:09.430
And he was telling me that his like next project, he wanted to do something
454
00:23:09.430 --> 00:23:10.050
like this.
455
00:23:10.390 --> 00:23:10.930
So, yeah.
456
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ColliderScript, Covenant in Bitcoin via 160-bit hash collisions.
457
00:23:19.210 --> 00:23:25.610
The paper introduces a method for enforcing covenants on Bitcoin outputs using
458
00:23:25.610 --> 00:23:32.230
hash collisions in SHA-1 and RIPEMD 160, allowing covenants without Bitcoin
459
00:23:32.230 --> 00:23:33.210
protocol changes.
460
00:23:33.330 --> 00:23:33.870
That's nuts.
461
00:23:34.530 --> 00:23:35.710
This is like insane.
462
00:23:36.250 --> 00:23:36.790
Oh, yeah.
463
00:23:37.010 --> 00:23:38.730
This is weaponized autism right here.
464
00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:41.670
This is, if you've ever seen it, this is weaponized autism.
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00:23:42.690 --> 00:23:44.450
Carmen's been warning me about this.
466
00:23:44.590 --> 00:23:51.170
Basically, Polster got inspired by BitVM and basically is trying to see if he
467
00:23:51.170 --> 00:23:58.110
can like implement like opcodes that we don't currently have by just colliding
468
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the shit out of hashes.
469
00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:03.490
I don't, I don't really understand the cryptography and Ben won't read the
470
00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:05.250
paper for me yet to explain it to me.
471
00:24:05.330 --> 00:24:07.270
So I don't know what's really going on.
472
00:24:07.270 --> 00:24:12.930
But the idea is like, can we do enough work and make a script under four
473
00:24:12.930 --> 00:24:16.150
megabytes so that we can actually put it on the blockchain that emulates
474
00:24:16.150 --> 00:24:17.430
opcodes?
475
00:24:17.730 --> 00:24:21.610
And then basically, it kind of in a kind of a weird way, it sort of
476
00:24:21.610 --> 00:24:24.010
pushes along some of the software discussions.
477
00:24:24.250 --> 00:24:27.790
Like, well, you know, we could emulate some of this stuff like really
478
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inefficiently.
479
00:24:29.190 --> 00:24:30.570
So just, you know.
480
00:24:31.270 --> 00:24:35.490
Yeah, so the basic thing is like, we might already have opcodes or covenants,
481
00:24:35.690 --> 00:24:36.070
but like.
482
00:24:36.790 --> 00:24:39.870
You know, all this shit never fucking goes anywhere.
483
00:24:40.450 --> 00:24:41.250
It's like BitVM.
484
00:24:41.390 --> 00:24:45.730
None of this shit goes anywhere because nobody that is sane puts real money in
485
00:24:45.730 --> 00:24:46.390
any of this shit.
486
00:24:47.030 --> 00:24:52.910
I mean, I think as Bitcoin matures, it's good to have these people exploring
487
00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:54.570
the solution space.
488
00:24:54.690 --> 00:24:55.170
Oh, absolutely.
489
00:24:55.170 --> 00:25:00.010
No matter how stupid or crazy it sounds, because you can, you know, maybe they
490
00:25:00.010 --> 00:25:00.570
find something.
491
00:25:00.710 --> 00:25:04.030
So I think it's a it's a great thing that people are, you know, people do
492
00:25:04.030 --> 00:25:07.510
these crazy, these crazy research experiments.
493
00:25:07.810 --> 00:25:09.750
But yeah, I don't know how practical.
494
00:25:10.630 --> 00:25:12.130
Most of them don't turn out to be practical.
495
00:25:12.890 --> 00:25:15.830
You know, I see like, yeah, the research side, absolutely.
496
00:25:16.050 --> 00:25:16.950
I love that.
497
00:25:16.950 --> 00:25:23.350
It's the problem is like when people start then selling the thing as if it's
498
00:25:23.350 --> 00:25:25.610
like, you know, BitVMs is coming tomorrow.
499
00:25:25.730 --> 00:25:30.010
Look at my shitcoin on BitVMs, you know, like it's kind of triggering.
500
00:25:31.050 --> 00:25:31.430
But, you know.
501
00:25:32.510 --> 00:25:37.990
One thing I like about this one, the work to spend our covenant is about 33
502
00:25:37.990 --> 00:25:40.770
hours of the Bitcoin mining network.
503
00:25:41.870 --> 00:25:47.370
But to break our covenant requires 450,000 years of the Bitcoin mining network.
504
00:25:47.750 --> 00:25:48.670
So, OK.
505
00:25:48.830 --> 00:25:52.870
OK, so this is so impractical you couldn't even use it, really, unless you were
506
00:25:52.870 --> 00:25:56.350
right, unless you were like riot mining or something.
507
00:25:56.630 --> 00:26:01.090
But like to put it into context, like maybe, I don't know, six months ago, you
508
00:26:01.090 --> 00:26:05.050
know, when Polster started like explaining this to people, he's like, I don't
509
00:26:05.050 --> 00:26:06.010
know if I can do it.
510
00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:08.410
So the fact that he's got it to the point where you can do it in
511
00:26:08.410 --> 00:26:12.010
33 hours of the Bitcoin mining network is like it's progress in his terms.
512
00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:15.070
How much hashrate does Riot have?
513
00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.070
Like 10 percent, 5 percent?
514
00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:18.770
I think it's something like that.
515
00:26:20.290 --> 00:26:29.730
So so if we extrapolate that, say times 20, so like if he employed Riot, it
516
00:26:29.730 --> 00:26:32.370
would be 660 hours.
517
00:26:33.890 --> 00:26:38.210
I just asked Pierre, maybe Pierre can put the word in, you know.
518
00:26:38.850 --> 00:26:44.150
Guys, can we like use your mining facility for 660 hours?
519
00:26:45.650 --> 00:26:46.950
That'd be a fun bounty.
520
00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:49.610
You just lock something up with this and then.
521
00:26:50.010 --> 00:26:52.210
Hey, Pierre, I'm looking for a little proactive security.
522
00:26:52.350 --> 00:26:56.650
Do you think I could have your entire hash array for a week?
523
00:26:57.590 --> 00:26:57.970
That's right.
524
00:26:58.830 --> 00:27:03.670
Before we move on, I do think that Polster needs to get back to his true
525
00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:07.910
mission of onboarding the Amish onto the Bitcoin network, you know, as you said
526
00:27:07.910 --> 00:27:08.990
earlier this weekend, VK.
527
00:27:09.850 --> 00:27:10.090
Yeah.
528
00:27:10.370 --> 00:27:10.750
Did I?
529
00:27:11.490 --> 00:27:11.910
Yeah.
530
00:27:12.310 --> 00:27:12.830
OK.
531
00:27:12.930 --> 00:27:14.990
You responded to me on Twitter.
532
00:27:15.910 --> 00:27:17.170
Oh, right.
533
00:27:19.070 --> 00:27:21.190
You remember this paper wallet stuff?
534
00:27:21.850 --> 00:27:22.090
Yes.
535
00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:26.830
The Amish, the Amish delivered Pennsylvania to Generalissimo Trump.
536
00:27:26.830 --> 00:27:30.150
So, you know, we have to pay them back.
537
00:27:30.610 --> 00:27:32.050
Kind of like what a brilliant move.
538
00:27:32.790 --> 00:27:34.790
Let's pick up those people.
539
00:27:35.690 --> 00:27:39.050
Those people, who forgot about them?
540
00:27:40.010 --> 00:27:42.070
Don't fuck with raw milk is the lesson.
541
00:27:42.810 --> 00:27:42.970
Yes.
542
00:27:44.790 --> 00:27:49.430
Great RSI, the Great Script Restoration Interpreter, a repository contains
543
00:27:49.430 --> 00:27:52.970
experimental potential interpreters for great script restoration.
544
00:27:53.290 --> 00:27:58.030
A proposal aimed to re-enabling the refining Bitcoin script opcodes.
545
00:27:58.990 --> 00:28:01.850
Oh, man, I have love and hate for this project.
546
00:28:02.530 --> 00:28:06.630
It's like, you know, of course, us nerds love it.
547
00:28:07.130 --> 00:28:11.790
Of course, the economic actors are probably going to hate it because it's like
548
00:28:11.790 --> 00:28:12.650
changes and risk.
549
00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:14.890
So it's going to be interesting.
550
00:28:17.150 --> 00:28:22.290
Boltzmann, TS, Monero Repo, TypeScript Library Computing, the Entropy of
551
00:28:22.290 --> 00:28:26.790
Bitcoin Transactions and the Likeability of their Inputs and Outputs.
552
00:28:26.790 --> 00:28:27.950
Like linkability.
553
00:28:28.690 --> 00:28:29.050
Yes.
554
00:28:31.130 --> 00:28:35.570
So de-anonymization project, I guess, for testing.
555
00:28:36.170 --> 00:28:36.390
Hmm.
556
00:28:37.130 --> 00:28:42.050
It's just lovely to watch, to be able to participate and listen to NVK
557
00:28:42.050 --> 00:28:42.990
Practices reading.
558
00:28:42.990 --> 00:28:43.810
Right.
559
00:28:45.530 --> 00:28:49.470
It hasn't changed much since K-12.
560
00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:54.510
And this is me reading fast.
561
00:28:55.550 --> 00:29:01.790
Bitcoin Hackerspace and Community Accelerator, BleepLab, launches BleepDev and
562
00:29:01.790 --> 00:29:06.530
a new Bitcoin developer education platform built on Lightning and Noster.
563
00:29:07.090 --> 00:29:09.010
So this is kind of fun.
564
00:29:09.850 --> 00:29:16.630
So Austin is the guy behind PlebDevs and he's been going to PlebLab for a
565
00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:16.730
while.
566
00:29:16.810 --> 00:29:20.550
He works for Voltage and he's basically making his own like online education
567
00:29:20.550 --> 00:29:24.890
platform where you kind of learn to code, but also learn how to build on
568
00:29:24.890 --> 00:29:25.150
Bitcoin.
569
00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:30.610
And we went over his UI in Austin Bitcoin Design Club.
570
00:29:31.090 --> 00:29:35.910
And also PlebLab just moved onto the same floor.
571
00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:40.510
So now we have Bitcoin Commons, we have PlebLab, and we have Unchained all
572
00:29:40.510 --> 00:29:43.610
basically on the same floor in Austin.
573
00:29:43.790 --> 00:29:44.930
So it's kind of fun.
574
00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:48.490
I feel like there's some nice like community consolidation going on.
575
00:29:51.650 --> 00:29:57.530
SetSale, a Lightning Bitcoin payment processor with the option of connecting to
576
00:29:57.530 --> 00:30:01.850
your own Bitcoin node or Lightning network node.
577
00:30:02.510 --> 00:30:06.290
Lightning Bitcoin payment processor written easily deployable in Python.
578
00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:07.610
There you go.
579
00:30:08.430 --> 00:30:11.610
That's what we like to hear, Python, that's just great.
580
00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:12.610
That's right.
581
00:30:13.610 --> 00:30:18.530
All the Rust hipsters, they don't understand that all new languages come and
582
00:30:18.530 --> 00:30:18.770
go.
583
00:30:18.970 --> 00:30:25.830
It's by Nick Farrell, but the last commit was in May, but it's by Nick Farrell.
584
00:30:26.010 --> 00:30:27.610
So it's good provenance.
585
00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:28.530
Nice.
586
00:30:28.850 --> 00:30:30.810
Yeah, he's been doing this one for a couple of years.
587
00:30:30.810 --> 00:30:34.790
He's now doing the FrostSnap hardware wall.
588
00:30:35.530 --> 00:30:35.830
Yeah.
589
00:30:36.690 --> 00:30:39.870
Yeah, they're moving in on you, all these hardware walls.
590
00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:41.010
Yeah, any day now.
591
00:30:41.950 --> 00:30:43.430
No, it's a very cool project.
592
00:30:43.570 --> 00:30:45.490
I really like the little snapping thingies.
593
00:30:45.570 --> 00:30:46.830
Let's see if they can make a clock.
594
00:30:47.810 --> 00:30:54.650
I think the challenges with things like that is it's going to be using like
595
00:30:54.650 --> 00:31:00.110
ESP32 is not a fantastic platform and USB is a problem.
596
00:31:00.810 --> 00:31:06.070
But there is nothing like, I mean, if they can prove the concept of that script
597
00:31:06.070 --> 00:31:11.070
type, right, like in that sort of use of it, it shouldn't be hard to move
598
00:31:11.070 --> 00:31:16.790
that into something more usable, like an NFC sort of tapping dance thing
599
00:31:16.790 --> 00:31:21.030
between different devices and more conducive to phone use.
600
00:31:22.050 --> 00:31:25.490
Imagine like, I mean, not hard to imagine Google or Apple deciding, hey, you
601
00:31:25.490 --> 00:31:25.870
know what?
602
00:31:26.450 --> 00:31:28.850
Do you know that USB command you are using?
603
00:31:28.990 --> 00:31:30.530
Yeah, it's not available in this new update.
604
00:31:32.190 --> 00:31:37.270
You know, like Apple broke the rights to FAT32.
605
00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:45.710
They were like breaking the SHA256, so they were breaking any rights really
606
00:31:45.710 --> 00:31:46.530
that were going to cards.
607
00:31:46.730 --> 00:31:49.830
So when you had things that had to be checked, like you checking the signature
608
00:31:49.830 --> 00:31:52.490
of your code card firmware on a micro SD card.
609
00:31:52.670 --> 00:31:53.930
Oh yeah, it doesn't check.
610
00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:56.790
So code card says no.
611
00:31:57.310 --> 00:32:04.910
Anyways, email BTC, send Bitcoin to anyone that has an email address.
612
00:32:05.110 --> 00:32:05.570
That's cool.
613
00:32:06.170 --> 00:32:06.990
How does that work?
614
00:32:08.330 --> 00:32:11.650
It is a very good pitch, you know, I think we need more of these things
615
00:32:11.650 --> 00:32:14.330
that are like, you know, an idiot can do.
616
00:32:14.930 --> 00:32:15.030
Right.
617
00:32:15.310 --> 00:32:17.690
So that's kind of UX we all want.
618
00:32:18.390 --> 00:32:21.250
Do they hold the Bitcoin in transit or something for somebody?
619
00:32:21.450 --> 00:32:23.530
No, it says it says non-custodial.
620
00:32:23.530 --> 00:32:27.750
There's something called Near Signatures, which I've never...
621
00:32:27.750 --> 00:32:28.890
Near Chain Signatures.
622
00:32:29.290 --> 00:32:31.530
Near Chain, the word chain, that's terrifying.
623
00:32:33.010 --> 00:32:35.450
Yes, as soon as there's chain, there's a shit going on.
624
00:32:35.630 --> 00:32:37.190
Oh, I don't like the word chain.
625
00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:40.050
They're using multi-party computation.
626
00:32:40.730 --> 00:32:41.190
Oh, OK.
627
00:32:41.690 --> 00:32:47.550
Dude, but MPC with VCDSA is like really asking to be like, you know, owned.
628
00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:51.290
Yeah, but this is this is for payments, you know, like.
629
00:32:51.290 --> 00:32:55.850
Yeah, if you're just like doing Venmo, you don't need like world-class
630
00:32:55.850 --> 00:33:00.770
security, you know, like, yeah, you can just get a really easy user experience.
631
00:33:00.810 --> 00:33:01.550
It might be worth it.
632
00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:04.690
Like people love finding addresses, right?
633
00:33:04.810 --> 00:33:08.210
And a lot of those aren't terribly secure, but it doesn't really matter.
634
00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:10.850
Yeah.
635
00:33:10.850 --> 00:33:11.250
Yeah.
636
00:33:11.310 --> 00:33:14.630
And then and then, you know, people say, no, but this is the solution for all
637
00:33:14.630 --> 00:33:15.970
your Bitcoin.
638
00:33:16.350 --> 00:33:19.410
And then, you know, it's like a classic.
639
00:33:19.410 --> 00:33:20.770
All right.
640
00:33:21.510 --> 00:33:22.710
Cross-script attack.
641
00:33:23.690 --> 00:33:30.990
Looty Player JS, a popular open source NPM package for web players, was
642
00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:32.930
compromised with a wallet drainer.
643
00:33:33.130 --> 00:33:33.710
Oh, man.
644
00:33:34.130 --> 00:33:34.610
Amazing.
645
00:33:35.610 --> 00:33:39.990
I wonder what exactly this means, like in what context can it drain stuff?
646
00:33:41.230 --> 00:33:41.990
Oh, it's a mobile.
647
00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:43.130
It's a mobile library.
648
00:33:43.670 --> 00:33:43.910
Interesting.
649
00:33:45.050 --> 00:33:45.750
Oh, Lottie.
650
00:33:45.790 --> 00:33:46.670
I've heard of Lottie.
651
00:33:47.110 --> 00:33:50.050
Yeah, it's like for it's like for fancy animations.
652
00:33:51.150 --> 00:33:54.150
So it's like I think it's for a React Native because Airbnb does a lot of
653
00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:54.690
React Native.
654
00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:55.330
Yeah.
655
00:33:55.590 --> 00:33:57.690
Always run your phone in lockdown mode, guys.
656
00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:04.110
There's Lottie players for like every single like front-end you can imagine.
657
00:34:04.630 --> 00:34:07.750
So like Web, React, Native.
658
00:34:08.370 --> 00:34:08.969
Yeah, could be.
659
00:34:09.050 --> 00:34:09.250
Swift.
660
00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:15.370
So, yeah, like if you have if you use this library to give a nice flashy
661
00:34:15.370 --> 00:34:20.810
little animation when your app loads up while it's loading the data, if you did
662
00:34:20.810 --> 00:34:27.310
a bad update, then if you updated it, now all your users could be gone.
663
00:34:27.330 --> 00:34:27.530
Right.
664
00:34:27.550 --> 00:34:28.290
If it's a hot wallet.
665
00:34:28.830 --> 00:34:29.190
So it is.
666
00:34:29.350 --> 00:34:30.050
Yeah, it is.
667
00:34:30.290 --> 00:34:34.870
It speaks to that is a big problem in software development is the supply chain
668
00:34:34.870 --> 00:34:35.389
attacks.
669
00:34:35.389 --> 00:34:37.710
It's a it's pretty terrifying.
670
00:34:37.870 --> 00:34:41.590
Any any real non-trivial software project ends up with so much code that isn't
671
00:34:41.590 --> 00:34:41.949
audited.
672
00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:49.570
Yeah, I mean, you know, the solution is like, see, when us cranky people go and
673
00:34:49.570 --> 00:34:53.790
say on Twitter, you know, like the UX can't be too nice, can't be too easy.
674
00:34:54.170 --> 00:34:58.950
You know, it's because the other people that make the stuff be too nice and too
675
00:34:58.950 --> 00:35:01.890
easy always end up using fucking libraries that they don't audit.
676
00:35:01.890 --> 00:35:07.510
Then people get on, you know, like ugly and simple goes a long fucking way.
677
00:35:07.830 --> 00:35:15.550
So it looks like somebody compromised a developer who had an access token to
678
00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:16.570
publish to NPM.
679
00:35:17.150 --> 00:35:17.550
Always.
680
00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:18.370
Yeah.
681
00:35:18.370 --> 00:35:19.670
So it wasn't in the source code.
682
00:35:19.790 --> 00:35:21.670
They didn't they didn't get a bad thing into the source.
683
00:35:21.990 --> 00:35:22.330
Right.
684
00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:26.490
Lottie didn't have anything wrong in their code, but somebody pushed an updated
685
00:35:26.490 --> 00:35:31.010
version of the package using a compromised access token to NPM.
686
00:35:31.010 --> 00:35:34.090
And then everybody who uses the package updated.
687
00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:41.750
That's exactly what happened to to Ledger Live when they had somebody took over
688
00:35:41.750 --> 00:35:47.770
either the CDN or some other package releasing thing of JavaScript that I don't
689
00:35:47.770 --> 00:35:48.370
fully understand.
690
00:35:49.170 --> 00:35:50.610
And they replaced the library there.
691
00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:55.370
And then they managed to to take money off of, you know, some fucking weird
692
00:35:55.370 --> 00:35:57.850
smart contracts or whatever that people had on their Ledger Live.
693
00:35:58.290 --> 00:35:59.970
But but this is the thing, right?
694
00:36:00.010 --> 00:36:01.450
Like it's man.
695
00:36:01.990 --> 00:36:05.130
This is also this is also the same thing that happened on Ubuntu.
696
00:36:05.350 --> 00:36:08.310
Like there was this big vulnerability like six months ago in Ubuntu where it
697
00:36:08.310 --> 00:36:10.910
was just it was mostly a build environment problem.
698
00:36:11.490 --> 00:36:11.590
Right.
699
00:36:11.610 --> 00:36:15.570
So this is an example of why open source isn't, you know, the cure all right.
700
00:36:15.690 --> 00:36:20.730
Because you're in this case, the vulnerability, you know, there's nothing wrong
701
00:36:20.730 --> 00:36:25.030
with the code, but the artifact that was built that went into projects was not
702
00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:26.770
was tampered with.
703
00:36:26.770 --> 00:36:30.550
But, you know, reproducible builds, deterministic builds will fix this, right?
704
00:36:30.610 --> 00:36:31.430
Like totally deterministic.
705
00:36:31.510 --> 00:36:34.730
Well, kind of, because you don't know where the phone is loading, right?
706
00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:39.590
Because it's still like the phone is still like the app still go through the
707
00:36:39.590 --> 00:36:42.010
walled garden closed from the MacBook.
708
00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:43.090
I mean, that is true.
709
00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:46.530
If they're if they're doing if you have a React Native app that's hot loading
710
00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:48.250
your JavaScript bundle, right?
711
00:36:48.370 --> 00:36:52.430
Dude, if you run like I highly recommend people run your phone on lockdown mode
712
00:36:52.430 --> 00:36:54.870
and see how many apps don't even load.
713
00:36:54.870 --> 00:36:59.350
Like it's just blank because you're just loading everything from the web.
714
00:37:00.470 --> 00:37:04.790
You know, I bang on this on almost every show, like hardware wallet developers
715
00:37:04.790 --> 00:37:07.010
should not have a fucking wallet.
716
00:37:07.670 --> 00:37:12.030
OK, it's like you are either the signer or you are the transaction creator.
717
00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:17.450
You should not have both parts, because if you have both parts, you can make
718
00:37:17.450 --> 00:37:21.310
some very bad transactions that the people may not notice and sign it.
719
00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:27.130
So you really want the two vendors to be part of this dance, especially when it
720
00:37:27.130 --> 00:37:29.530
comes to to like this and this and money.
721
00:37:29.850 --> 00:37:33.450
And, you know, we all know that when SACs today is a million dollars tomorrow.
722
00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:33.910
Right.
723
00:37:34.130 --> 00:37:39.410
So, you know, it's man, it's it's so fucking annoying.
724
00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:44.750
It's you know, I also think it's interesting in their incident report.
725
00:37:44.870 --> 00:37:49.770
They like list the SHA-512 of a known good version.
726
00:37:49.770 --> 00:37:55.030
It's like, how nice would it be if, you know, JavaScript dependencies involved
727
00:37:55.030 --> 00:38:01.150
hash and signing during normal course of events, not just during an incident
728
00:38:01.150 --> 00:38:01.670
response.
729
00:38:02.110 --> 00:38:07.870
Talking about dependencies, I went to take a quick peek at one of this very
730
00:38:07.870 --> 00:38:10.590
common DIY hardware wallet projects.
731
00:38:11.690 --> 00:38:14.430
And Jesus fucking Christ, there is even Vim there.
732
00:38:14.430 --> 00:38:22.890
Like it's like the full Linux stack, like the whole thing is just sitting in
733
00:38:22.890 --> 00:38:23.610
your hardware wallet.
734
00:38:24.710 --> 00:38:25.350
Amazing.
735
00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:27.610
There is even a user table.
736
00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:28.790
Fascinating.
737
00:38:30.690 --> 00:38:31.530
It's OK.
738
00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:33.610
People need to get rekt to learn.
739
00:38:34.070 --> 00:38:36.290
There is there doesn't seem to be another way.
740
00:38:37.650 --> 00:38:37.930
All right.
741
00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:43.390
Hackers misuse emergency data requests to access user data at TechCrunch.
742
00:38:44.130 --> 00:38:48.590
Hackers gain access to user data by exploiting emergency data requests using
743
00:38:48.590 --> 00:38:54.490
hacked law enforcement email accounts by bypass user warrant requirements.
744
00:38:54.810 --> 00:38:55.450
Very interesting.
745
00:38:56.510 --> 00:38:59.710
So all you have to do is you just email YouTube and say, this guy is
746
00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:00.170
a terrorist.
747
00:39:00.370 --> 00:39:01.770
It's like, here's his password.
748
00:39:04.150 --> 00:39:05.510
Pretty insane.
749
00:39:06.270 --> 00:39:09.550
The attacks will continue until the backdoors are removed.
750
00:39:10.290 --> 00:39:11.710
Yeah, I love that.
751
00:39:11.970 --> 00:39:16.770
I think it was on, I think it was JD Vance on Rogan talking about how
752
00:39:16.770 --> 00:39:19.490
his phone and Trump's phone both got hacked.
753
00:39:19.770 --> 00:39:20.010
Yeah.
754
00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:22.210
I don't know if you already talked about this, but I thought that was
755
00:39:22.210 --> 00:39:27.770
interesting that he specifically said that he was told that the compromise.
756
00:39:27.770 --> 00:39:32.850
So like, it's not just like those in the know, but like the actual victim was
757
00:39:32.850 --> 00:39:37.450
told the compromise is based on like NSA requested backdoors.
758
00:39:37.830 --> 00:39:38.310
Yeah.
759
00:39:38.750 --> 00:39:41.270
Yeah, involved from the Patriot Act.
760
00:39:41.730 --> 00:39:41.990
Yeah.
761
00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:42.970
Yeah, no, totally.
762
00:39:43.150 --> 00:39:50.690
I mean, you know, if you if you put a door, it's like it depends on
763
00:39:50.690 --> 00:39:54.670
which thug is in power and which thug is going to have access to, but some
764
00:39:54.670 --> 00:39:55.790
thug is going to get in.
765
00:39:56.470 --> 00:39:59.150
The Chinese have had doors for thousands of years.
766
00:39:59.370 --> 00:40:00.770
They know their way around the door.
767
00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:07.070
It's just been so hard to get this through, like into like mainstream political
768
00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:08.490
understanding, I feel like.
769
00:40:08.930 --> 00:40:15.250
And so it's kind of nice to see that level of understanding reach like the, you
770
00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:16.850
know, vice president elect.
771
00:40:16.990 --> 00:40:18.070
It's not going to get there.
772
00:40:18.090 --> 00:40:19.050
It's like the phone, right?
773
00:40:19.050 --> 00:40:23.470
It's like people advocating for using the phone for real money, like or for
774
00:40:23.470 --> 00:40:26.210
actual like, you know, do or die privacy things.
775
00:40:26.330 --> 00:40:29.590
It's like, no, your phone is remote accessible by the spooks.
776
00:40:29.730 --> 00:40:33.310
Just just know that, you know, can you prove it?
777
00:40:33.370 --> 00:40:34.250
Yeah, probably not.
778
00:40:35.190 --> 00:40:39.370
So just the fact that they allow you to use encrypted apps now that they don't
779
00:40:39.370 --> 00:40:42.650
have the keys for it, just so that they can see it some other way.
780
00:40:44.310 --> 00:40:47.050
JD Vance also believes that his signal was not compromised.
781
00:40:47.050 --> 00:40:50.730
I don't think the signal protocol has been broken.
782
00:40:50.950 --> 00:40:56.110
I just think that is, you know, the signal servers, the signal, the phone that
783
00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.470
you're using for your signal, everything else is compromised.
784
00:40:59.270 --> 00:41:02.190
Yeah, or they're just they're just reading your entire screen, right?
785
00:41:02.430 --> 00:41:03.410
Yes, exactly.
786
00:41:03.570 --> 00:41:04.210
Totally, right.
787
00:41:04.510 --> 00:41:08.310
And your face while you read it, too, because they, you know, these guys are
788
00:41:08.310 --> 00:41:08.810
all creeps.
789
00:41:08.910 --> 00:41:11.310
So like they want to see all the angles.
790
00:41:12.330 --> 00:41:13.930
You know, it's it's it's pretty brutal.
791
00:41:13.930 --> 00:41:21.490
So store relays target in IP spoofing campaign causing widespread disruption.
792
00:41:22.570 --> 00:41:31.130
Critical zero click flaw exposes Synology storage devices to ransomware and
793
00:41:31.130 --> 00:41:31.710
data theft.
794
00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:37.070
You know, ransomware I'm OK with because if you have another backup, it's not a
795
00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:37.510
big deal.
796
00:41:37.990 --> 00:41:38.710
It's just like, fuck it.
797
00:41:39.450 --> 00:41:44.550
Synology is normally your small business's backup.
798
00:41:45.050 --> 00:41:45.590
Yeah, totally.
799
00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:54.490
It's a backup should be on a couple of drives via USB-C and then you
800
00:41:54.490 --> 00:41:57.070
put them away and that's it.
801
00:41:57.150 --> 00:41:59.730
And you just do that once in a while and you're probably good.
802
00:42:00.290 --> 00:42:02.890
All right.
803
00:42:03.370 --> 00:42:04.110
Hidden risk.
804
00:42:04.910 --> 00:42:12.130
North Korean hacker group BlueNoroth deploy a new MacOS malware campaign
805
00:42:12.130 --> 00:42:13.830
targeting cryptocurrency firms.
806
00:42:14.830 --> 00:42:19.490
The attack uses phishing emails disguised as crypto news.
807
00:42:20.310 --> 00:42:22.510
It's like you're double your Bitcoin.
808
00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:23.230
Click here.
809
00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:29.190
BritneyUsePeers.exe. Don't click on anything.
810
00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:32.390
I mean, it's funny they modify your ZSH file.
811
00:42:32.670 --> 00:42:36.030
So they modify like your terminal shell.
812
00:42:38.450 --> 00:42:39.470
That's pretty funny.
813
00:42:40.370 --> 00:42:41.050
I know, right.
814
00:42:41.850 --> 00:42:45.370
And but here's the thing, like Wessex doesn't ship with ZSH.
815
00:42:46.230 --> 00:42:47.070
Yeah, it does.
816
00:42:47.470 --> 00:42:47.910
It does?
817
00:42:48.790 --> 00:42:49.570
Oh, shit.
818
00:42:49.650 --> 00:42:49.870
Really?
819
00:42:50.270 --> 00:42:50.470
Yeah.
820
00:42:50.690 --> 00:42:52.190
I'm still running my own.
821
00:42:52.770 --> 00:42:55.730
Like, because, you know, I just keep on inheriting new systems, right?
822
00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:56.670
Just bringing it over.
823
00:42:56.810 --> 00:42:57.970
So, like, I'm running my own.
824
00:42:58.250 --> 00:42:58.810
OK, Boomer.
825
00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:01.710
I did not know that.
826
00:43:02.430 --> 00:43:06.890
It's funny that they're doing this to bypass, like, MacOS, like, alerting, you
827
00:43:06.890 --> 00:43:10.790
know, MacOS, people complain about these alerts, but I love this.
828
00:43:10.870 --> 00:43:13.510
Like, you launch an app and it's like, hey, this app wants access to your
829
00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:14.290
documents folder.
830
00:43:14.670 --> 00:43:16.070
And it's like, hey, thanks for letting me know.
831
00:43:16.230 --> 00:43:17.130
Like, I'm really great.
832
00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:17.990
I like that.
833
00:43:18.150 --> 00:43:19.350
I like the copy and paste one.
834
00:43:19.490 --> 00:43:20.210
That's my favorite.
835
00:43:20.570 --> 00:43:23.810
It's like, why does this app want copy and paste access?
836
00:43:24.010 --> 00:43:26.390
It's like it's an app to change the color of the screen.
837
00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:26.810
Yeah.
838
00:43:29.390 --> 00:43:33.250
Also, run your laptops, your Mac computers on lockdown mode.
839
00:43:33.770 --> 00:43:35.110
It is surprisingly good.
840
00:43:36.530 --> 00:43:40.170
It's also kind of cool how many less ads I get on stuff.
841
00:43:41.130 --> 00:43:44.810
Yeah, the really frustrating thing is that they don't let you.
842
00:43:45.630 --> 00:43:50.950
We had this problem in Mutiny is that, you know, lockdown mode disables
843
00:43:50.950 --> 00:43:54.430
WebAssembly and WebAssembly is getting used more and more on the web.
844
00:43:54.430 --> 00:43:56.690
And it makes really cool things possible.
845
00:43:57.650 --> 00:44:00.870
And a nice compromise is being able to like add an exception.
846
00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:05.910
No, see, WebAssembly is essentially a remote code execution throw jam.
847
00:44:06.330 --> 00:44:08.050
It's like it's really brutal.
848
00:44:08.330 --> 00:44:13.290
OK, in my opinion, it seems relatively trivial to be sandboxed.
849
00:44:13.710 --> 00:44:17.010
But let's say you don't trust it, but you can still theoretically add an
850
00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:17.830
exception per site.
851
00:44:18.010 --> 00:44:23.130
But there's some bug that they added to Safari where you can't even add an
852
00:44:23.130 --> 00:44:23.570
exception.
853
00:44:24.550 --> 00:44:25.450
It's not a bug.
854
00:44:25.530 --> 00:44:29.730
It's because, you know, the celebrity goes and adds an exception and boom, all
855
00:44:29.730 --> 00:44:30.830
their nudes are on the Internet.
856
00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:32.550
No, it's a it's a bug.
857
00:44:32.710 --> 00:44:36.070
I filed it as a regression and they labeled it as a bug.
858
00:44:36.370 --> 00:44:38.030
So I have proof.
859
00:44:38.950 --> 00:44:39.950
That's your list.
860
00:44:41.350 --> 00:44:43.130
You should submit it to the producer.
861
00:44:45.430 --> 00:44:46.030
All right.
862
00:44:46.110 --> 00:44:47.290
Five dollar ranch attacks.
863
00:44:47.490 --> 00:44:48.490
They keep on increasing.
864
00:44:48.970 --> 00:44:51.110
Target break-in, Bitcoin host and narrator.
865
00:44:51.290 --> 00:44:51.770
Geist one.
866
00:44:51.870 --> 00:44:53.110
Yeah, I saw that one.
867
00:44:53.130 --> 00:44:56.430
So Geist one was at the Lugano Plain B conference.
868
00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:58.650
Some guy entered his hotel room.
869
00:44:59.050 --> 00:45:01.890
It really goes to show that evil maids are real.
870
00:45:03.530 --> 00:45:06.030
You know, use devices.
871
00:45:06.330 --> 00:45:09.770
First of all, don't travel to Bitcoin conferences with your main devices.
872
00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:11.610
Second, don't stay in the hotel conference.
873
00:45:12.590 --> 00:45:13.650
Already a huge improvement.
874
00:45:13.990 --> 00:45:15.910
Don't use your real name to book hotel rooms.
875
00:45:17.770 --> 00:45:22.190
Yeah, I think the golden age of Bitcoin conferences for real Bitcoiners is
876
00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:22.870
pretty much over.
877
00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:27.090
Now it's like, you know, just meet your friends.
878
00:45:27.430 --> 00:45:29.330
I'll just go fishing with the boys, you know.
879
00:45:29.530 --> 00:45:30.090
That's right.
880
00:45:30.250 --> 00:45:31.590
Just go fishing with the boys.
881
00:45:33.990 --> 00:45:36.690
MVK, we need to go walleye fishing someday up in Canada.
882
00:45:37.670 --> 00:45:38.430
No, I'm not there.
883
00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:47.430
I don't know, man, maybe the communists are not going to let us do that there
884
00:45:47.430 --> 00:45:48.030
at some point.
885
00:45:48.110 --> 00:45:48.510
I don't know.
886
00:45:48.690 --> 00:45:50.470
But yes, I don't like fishing.
887
00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:51.910
I only like shooting food.
888
00:45:51.910 --> 00:45:54.990
Like fishing for food, I've tried.
889
00:45:55.370 --> 00:45:56.630
You could shoot a fish.
890
00:45:56.910 --> 00:45:57.910
Yeah, I've tried.
891
00:45:58.070 --> 00:45:58.510
I've succeeded.
892
00:45:59.270 --> 00:46:04.810
But it is totally possible, I might say.
893
00:46:05.350 --> 00:46:09.030
But the main problem is, yeah, fishing is boring as fuck.
894
00:46:11.290 --> 00:46:13.530
It's so fucking boring, man.
895
00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:18.110
And he calls himself a Canadian.
896
00:46:18.670 --> 00:46:19.250
Yes.
897
00:46:20.110 --> 00:46:21.310
I was not compatible.
898
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:24.180
All right.
899
00:46:25.020 --> 00:46:25.580
What else?
900
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:32.720
Here, a 23-year-old Ukrainian tourist visiting Puckett was ambushed in his
901
00:46:32.720 --> 00:46:34.820
friend's hotel by our man.
902
00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:38.660
And then they threatened to break his fingers.
903
00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:40.940
The minute he said 500,000, he did.
904
00:46:41.900 --> 00:46:44.780
He said 200,000, so he negotiated it down.
905
00:46:45.740 --> 00:46:47.080
What a great way to start your day.
906
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.620
I mean, these things always have a backstory, you know.
907
00:46:52.620 --> 00:46:54.760
Like, it's never that simple.
908
00:46:55.660 --> 00:46:59.860
You know, this dude was probably bragging at a bar about something or he pissed
909
00:46:59.860 --> 00:47:02.200
off somebody he didn't like that knew he had coins.
910
00:47:02.340 --> 00:47:03.300
It's always like that.
911
00:47:04.520 --> 00:47:12.700
Toronto cryptocurrency CEO Dean Skurka was kidnapped and held for ransom in
912
00:47:12.700 --> 00:47:13.580
daylight incident.
913
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.760
I saw this one on the news there.
914
00:47:16.540 --> 00:47:21.680
And they paid one mil in ransom and the guy got released.
915
00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:23.440
I mean, stay classy, Toronto.
916
00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:25.580
Now you have taxes and crime.
917
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:26.180
Wow.
918
00:47:26.820 --> 00:47:27.500
Winning.
919
00:47:29.600 --> 00:47:30.580
Pick one.
920
00:47:31.040 --> 00:47:32.100
You can't have both.
921
00:47:34.180 --> 00:47:41.620
Gunman family shot, shoots Antonio Vinicius López Griezbach, cryptocurrency
922
00:47:41.620 --> 00:47:44.620
businessman and injures three others.
923
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.600
Sao Paulo International Airport.
924
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:47.240
Jesus.
925
00:47:47.460 --> 00:47:48.020
I thought it was.
926
00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:48.600
Wow.
927
00:47:48.780 --> 00:47:51.000
That's bad when it's at an international airport.
928
00:47:51.680 --> 00:47:51.940
I know.
929
00:47:52.040 --> 00:47:52.180
Right.
930
00:47:52.220 --> 00:47:53.080
Like on the parking lot.
931
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.860
It's like the one place, you know, like everything's a felony.
932
00:47:57.500 --> 00:47:59.000
Like anything you do there is a felony.
933
00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:04.880
Remember the shit really escalated with Escobar when they decided to kill some
934
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.060
guy in the in the airport.
935
00:48:06.240 --> 00:48:08.940
It's like the airport is like one of those places where you don't fuck with,
936
00:48:09.020 --> 00:48:11.100
even if you're a sanctioned mobster.
937
00:48:12.060 --> 00:48:14.440
That happened the day I flew out of Mexico City.
938
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:15.220
Really?
939
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:16.880
You were there for the Escobar?
940
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:21.720
I was spending the year off the Internet and I was in Mexico City for a
941
00:48:21.720 --> 00:48:22.700
robotics conference.
942
00:48:22.820 --> 00:48:24.980
I got on a plane, flew to New York.
943
00:48:25.100 --> 00:48:28.920
And the next day I pick up a newspaper and I start reading about the shooting
944
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.880
that happened in Mexico City at the airport.
945
00:48:31.040 --> 00:48:33.120
So it happened like probably a couple of hours after I left.
946
00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:33.660
Wow.
947
00:48:34.660 --> 00:48:34.980
Yeah.
948
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:36.920
The world's going to get very interesting.
949
00:48:38.120 --> 00:48:42.780
I mean, like, you know, the most soluble money in the history of humankind is
950
00:48:42.780 --> 00:48:47.400
also great to take it from people because it's soluble.
951
00:48:48.420 --> 00:48:50.640
Is this a good argument for covenants?
952
00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:51.940
Yeah, absolutely.
953
00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:53.460
We need covenants.
954
00:48:53.600 --> 00:48:59.320
We need on-chain enforced vaults because then there is like literally nothing
955
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:00.080
you can do.
956
00:49:00.660 --> 00:49:01.980
And it's provable too.
957
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.680
I mean, you know, like we have all those trickpins and duress systems and plus
958
00:49:08.680 --> 00:49:11.680
that plus multi-sig, you know, you can slow down a lot.
959
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:16.840
But, you know, sometimes the push will come to a shove and, you know, it's a
960
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:17.180
problem.
961
00:49:18.240 --> 00:49:22.740
Enrique, of all the proposed benefits of covenants, would you rank the vault
962
00:49:22.740 --> 00:49:24.060
use case as the most important?
963
00:49:24.740 --> 00:49:25.300
Oh, absolutely.
964
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:26.960
Everything else is just a waste of time.
965
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:32.040
You know, sure, you can improve Lightning a little bit, can do this stuff.
966
00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:37.140
But like, realistically speaking, it's like, you know, when you have like UTXOs
967
00:49:37.140 --> 00:49:42.380
that are worth like everything, right, like people's life savings and shit, you
968
00:49:42.380 --> 00:49:45.720
know, we got there with gold, right?
969
00:49:45.780 --> 00:49:51.460
And then because gold was so soluble and reasonably portable, your chariot, you
970
00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:56.320
know, people were stealing the gold and then people outsource the risk, right,
971
00:49:56.380 --> 00:50:00.540
to the banks, like to people who did IOU banks so they could travel or pay
972
00:50:00.540 --> 00:50:01.600
remotely or whatever.
973
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.420
But like somebody has to have the guns, right?
974
00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:09.920
When be your own bank means also be your own gun holder, right?
975
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.200
And most people don't want that.
976
00:50:12.420 --> 00:50:17.040
Most people want to outsource the risk, the liability and, you know, at the
977
00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:18.300
expense of their sovereignty.
978
00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:21.960
So you can see you can see a similar thing happening with ETFs, right?
979
00:50:22.020 --> 00:50:24.920
Was it like 19 out of 20 just use Coinbase?
980
00:50:25.080 --> 00:50:25.220
Yeah.
981
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:25.440
Yeah.
982
00:50:25.500 --> 00:50:25.720
Right.
983
00:50:26.200 --> 00:50:27.240
No, they don't have a choice.
984
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:28.920
Like you can't just have a dude.
985
00:50:29.420 --> 00:50:29.560
Yeah.
986
00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:32.640
You can't just have a, you know, the board of keys and shit like it doesn't
987
00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:33.240
work like that.
988
00:50:33.240 --> 00:50:33.480
Right.
989
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:37.480
So we need we need on-chain solutions.
990
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:37.860
Yeah.
991
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.320
It's almost like separation of responsibilities for institutional custody.
992
00:50:41.540 --> 00:50:41.640
Right.
993
00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:44.820
Like you have you have the guys that can sign and the guys that can say
994
00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:46.520
you weren't allowed to sign.
995
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:46.940
Right.
996
00:50:47.300 --> 00:50:47.680
Yeah.
997
00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:52.460
I mean, you know, cryptography, all cryptography does is just creates a key
998
00:50:52.460 --> 00:50:52.920
issue.
999
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:54.360
You know what I mean?
1000
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.400
It makes all this cool shit, but now it's a key protection problem.
1001
00:50:57.520 --> 00:50:57.640
Right.
1002
00:50:57.740 --> 00:51:00.140
Every solution introduces another issue.
1003
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.380
That's right.
1004
00:51:02.040 --> 00:51:06.200
And, you know, like what we need is Bitcoin to be protected by math, not by
1005
00:51:06.200 --> 00:51:06.500
guns.
1006
00:51:06.620 --> 00:51:06.760
Right.
1007
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.420
And that that truly, truly takes us to a whole other level.
1008
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.940
Because can you imagine like, you know, the best way to secure Bitcoin is just
1009
00:51:15.940 --> 00:51:17.160
simply not be able to sign it.
1010
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:17.380
Right.
1011
00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:19.680
So like somebody comes to me like there's nothing I can do.
1012
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:21.480
There's no coin.
1013
00:51:21.660 --> 00:51:23.200
There's nothing really.
1014
00:51:23.680 --> 00:51:27.380
Like, you know, it's going to take me months to go to different countries and
1015
00:51:27.380 --> 00:51:29.640
all kinds of shit to be able to get something.
1016
00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:34.720
In addition to that, that's a good step.
1017
00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:38.240
But ideally, that is the common case.
1018
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:44.580
So not just that some people can't sign, but that it's typical for high net
1019
00:51:44.580 --> 00:51:46.760
worth holders to not be able to sign.
1020
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.820
It becomes it becomes known that there is no point in physically attacking
1021
00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:53.220
people because one, you're going to get shot back.
1022
00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:56.080
And two, you know, they can't sign.
1023
00:51:56.740 --> 00:51:57.200
That's it.
1024
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:58.100
Like it really is.
1025
00:51:58.100 --> 00:52:01.920
That's why they don't go after high net worth people who have money in the
1026
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.140
bank, because like the bank won't let them take the money out.
1027
00:52:06.140 --> 00:52:09.940
It really is like if you tell the bank teller that you're paying a ransom,
1028
00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:11.960
they're going to say, no, you can't have it.
1029
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:18.740
You know, and we need to get there with math and covenants do give us that.
1030
00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:22.720
So, yeah, I think if the current trends continue, you know, you're going to
1031
00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:25.540
have a lot of new parties participating in consensus and everything.
1032
00:52:25.540 --> 00:52:25.840
Right.
1033
00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:31.560
Maybe the vault use case is the one thing that would, you know, they're not
1034
00:52:31.560 --> 00:52:34.280
going to be convinced by ARK probably, you know, they don't care.
1035
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.360
But a better, more secure custody, maybe they'll get behind.
1036
00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:38.340
Right.
1037
00:52:39.180 --> 00:52:42.040
Yeah, no, it's we can't we can't escape that.
1038
00:52:43.140 --> 00:52:48.520
Anyways, software releases and project updates for privacy and other related
1039
00:52:48.520 --> 00:52:49.220
projects.
1040
00:52:50.380 --> 00:52:54.960
Reticulum MeshNet got updated at bandwidth and spreading factors for 2.4
1041
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:55.440
gigahertz.
1042
00:52:55.560 --> 00:52:56.180
So that's cool.
1043
00:52:56.620 --> 00:52:58.380
I got to get get this set up.
1044
00:52:58.700 --> 00:53:01.780
Yeah, dude, it's like it's super easy if you want to just do it over the
1045
00:53:01.780 --> 00:53:03.380
over the Internet to get started.
1046
00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:04.360
Right.
1047
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.080
And then slowly add other comm methods.
1048
00:53:07.380 --> 00:53:08.000
Yeah, exactly.
1049
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:09.660
It's just there's just a file.
1050
00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:12.080
You just keep on adding more comms set up as you add them.
1051
00:53:12.520 --> 00:53:12.960
That's sweet.
1052
00:53:14.580 --> 00:53:23.700
Matrix version 2.0, instant login, instant launch, instant sync, aka simplified
1053
00:53:23.700 --> 00:53:25.160
sliding sync.
1054
00:53:25.580 --> 00:53:28.500
Man, Matrix is one of those projects I want to love it, but I fucking hate
1055
00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:28.660
it.
1056
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:29.740
It's so difficult.
1057
00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:31.620
Like, it's such a fucking pain in the ass.
1058
00:53:31.720 --> 00:53:34.400
And you have once you're stuck with one server, you're kind of stuck with that
1059
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:34.700
server.
1060
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:37.500
I'm curious what it's like now.
1061
00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:42.120
I haven't used it in a while, but it sounds like they've kind of rewrote a
1062
00:53:42.120 --> 00:53:46.940
lot of their core stuff and they're trying to address like the some of the pain
1063
00:53:46.940 --> 00:53:49.980
in the ass that's like kind of it would take a while to load a room
1064
00:53:49.980 --> 00:53:51.920
because it's like basically decrypting everything.
1065
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:52.460
Great.
1066
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.320
So it sounds like they've addressed that with like sliding sync, but I don't
1067
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:56.960
quite know.
1068
00:53:57.120 --> 00:53:58.900
Yeah, the sliding sync is kind of a big deal.
1069
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:03.120
It's like you got, you know, I remember seeing demos of the old old electron
1070
00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:06.940
app and this new one with sliding sync, you know, from some developer who's in
1071
00:54:06.940 --> 00:54:07.920
like five thousand rooms.
1072
00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:10.200
You know, the old one would take five minutes to open.
1073
00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:12.360
The new one would open in like one second.
1074
00:54:12.520 --> 00:54:12.620
Right.
1075
00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:17.800
So it helps performance a lot, but only, you know, only for heavy users, mainly
1076
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:18.460
for heavy users.
1077
00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:20.260
Nice.
1078
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:28.500
I mean, I think MLS and like I said, I think as soon as Signal adds
1079
00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:33.500
big room support, I think a lot of these problems get resolved.
1080
00:54:34.300 --> 00:54:39.200
Now that you don't have to dox your phone number anymore, the ratcheting system
1081
00:54:39.200 --> 00:54:42.360
that Signal uses, I think, is way more reasonable.
1082
00:54:43.700 --> 00:54:46.580
They did add multi-people calls now for video calls.
1083
00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:54.780
Lightning plus L2 plus project spotlights, podcast boost dashboard, convert
1084
00:54:54.780 --> 00:55:00.000
core lightnings, list invoices, output to a podcasting 2.0 dashboard.
1085
00:55:00.200 --> 00:55:00.580
That's cool.
1086
00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:05.520
I hope the Podhome guys start hosting that because that would be helpful.
1087
00:55:06.980 --> 00:55:13.320
Zpay.live monetize virtually any digital content of lightning paywalls.
1088
00:55:14.600 --> 00:55:23.480
Bullish Nuts, a bullish cashew PWA wallet, Athene Nut, a privacy preserving web
1089
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.360
search powered by Kaji and cashew.
1090
00:55:27.620 --> 00:55:31.380
Oh, I guess it's like a Kaji wrapper that you pay with cashew.
1091
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:32.040
Cool.
1092
00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:39.780
Tiny Pine, a simple LN and cashew e-cash POS system for merchants.
1093
00:55:41.700 --> 00:55:44.980
Any updates or things with the FedEment?
1094
00:55:46.140 --> 00:55:50.000
Yeah, I mean, they're just kind of marching along, making things more robust
1095
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:50.600
and reliable.
1096
00:55:50.740 --> 00:55:56.060
They had a new release, I don't know if they've cut it yet, 0.4. I
1097
00:55:56.060 --> 00:55:59.080
don't pay enough attention, I'm just very curious.
1098
00:56:00.100 --> 00:56:06.840
What happened to the smart contract thingy so that you could do mining pool
1099
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:07.400
payouts?
1100
00:56:08.100 --> 00:56:11.160
No one's implemented it, still, you know, an idea.
1101
00:56:11.600 --> 00:56:18.320
There was a developer who was very interested in the idea, Kitman, who has
1102
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:19.000
taken a little break.
1103
00:56:19.380 --> 00:56:23.320
So hopefully Kitman returns and implements it.
1104
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.320
There's a couple other people who are interested in talking about it.
1105
00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:27.540
See what happens.
1106
00:56:28.520 --> 00:56:29.140
Very cool.
1107
00:56:30.140 --> 00:56:39.380
Software releases and project updates for L2+, Zeus version 0.9.2-RC, activity
1108
00:56:39.380 --> 00:56:45.960
export transactions, history spreadsheets, improved BIP 3.5.3 and BOLT 12
1109
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:53.040
support, spooky theme, settings payments and add slide to pay thresholds.
1110
00:56:53.160 --> 00:56:58.160
Evan, if you're listening, can you make the default view be the balanced view?
1111
00:56:58.720 --> 00:57:02.600
That would be nice and make it a little easier to swap between wallets or see
1112
00:57:02.600 --> 00:57:05.940
all the different wallets in a multi-wallet view.
1113
00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:12.060
So like, kind of like cards or lists for each of the different wallets you're
1114
00:57:12.060 --> 00:57:12.720
connected to.
1115
00:57:13.180 --> 00:57:13.680
That would be nice.
1116
00:57:13.780 --> 00:57:18.900
You could NVK just stacking Lightning wallets now, just layers upon layers of
1117
00:57:18.900 --> 00:57:19.580
Lightning wallets.
1118
00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:20.500
Yep.
1119
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:23.340
There is no other way, right?
1120
00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:26.880
Like nothing works in Lightning, so like you have to have multiple choices.
1121
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:28.080
You have to keep trying.
1122
00:57:28.140 --> 00:57:29.080
Trying to pay this one.
1123
00:57:29.420 --> 00:57:30.200
Oh, it didn't go.
1124
00:57:30.560 --> 00:57:31.400
Try this other one.
1125
00:57:31.540 --> 00:57:32.380
Oh, didn't go.
1126
00:57:32.500 --> 00:57:33.240
Try this other one.
1127
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:34.300
Oh yeah, that one go.
1128
00:57:34.540 --> 00:57:36.360
And that one charged me 10%.
1129
00:57:38.060 --> 00:57:42.080
The self-custodial Lightning wallets, man, the fees are just so fucking brutal.
1130
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.160
But it works, you know, it's one of those things.
1131
00:57:45.240 --> 00:57:46.400
It's like it's a lot of pain.
1132
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.360
But at the same time, it's quite magical, right?
1133
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:50.360
Like it really is.
1134
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.480
Like, especially when you're sending zaps on the Auster, man, it really is
1135
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:53.880
fantastic.
1136
00:57:54.360 --> 00:58:00.580
Or like when you use like BullBitcoin to pay people in South American stuff,
1137
00:58:00.780 --> 00:58:04.820
like it's crazy that you just pay, you know, Bitcoin Jungle or whatever.
1138
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.240
It just goes from there to the other thing, to the other thing.
1139
00:58:07.300 --> 00:58:09.340
And the guy gets like it straight into his bank account.
1140
00:58:09.820 --> 00:58:13.520
Like it's a poof and it is kind of instant.
1141
00:58:14.700 --> 00:58:16.780
It's yeah, it's cool.
1142
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.080
Living the cypherpunk dream.
1143
00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:24.640
I'll be go version 1.7. Withdrawal support, improve currency selection,
1144
00:58:24.860 --> 00:58:31.180
postagram, info in transaction details, write the Lightning, add support, send
1145
00:58:31.180 --> 00:58:36.840
payments for AMP invoices on Lightning, on L&D, a few other things.
1146
00:58:37.560 --> 00:58:39.460
CLBOSS updated.
1147
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:49.820
Nutshell version 0.16.1. Add support to L&D via gRPC for LN-RPC wallet,
1148
00:58:50.500 --> 00:58:55.360
NUT15 Mutiny payments for LN-REST wallet, stability improvements.
1149
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:57.400
Multi-NUT payments.
1150
00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:57.960
Yeah.
1151
00:58:58.760 --> 00:58:59.580
Thank you.
1152
00:59:01.020 --> 00:59:07.360
Geyser, November 2024, email enhancements, creators can now choose between nine
1153
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.340
different types, link posts to rewards and goals, link posts to goals and a
1154
00:59:12.340 --> 00:59:12.940
bunch other stuff.
1155
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:14.220
Geyser from Geyser.
1156
00:59:14.420 --> 00:59:20.020
I tried to give Open Timestamps a sizable donation there and there was no
1157
00:59:20.020 --> 00:59:21.160
liquidity to receive it.
1158
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:22.020
So fix it.
1159
00:59:24.040 --> 00:59:30.740
Clams, remote version 2.4.0, add UI for both 12 prism plugin.
1160
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:33.400
Noster, I'm not going to read.
1161
00:59:33.600 --> 00:59:35.640
Oh, the Noster Project Spotlights, let's read those.
1162
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:40.520
Snap Noster, create clean, customizable screenshots of Noster posts for
1163
00:59:40.520 --> 00:59:41.360
seamless sharing.
1164
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:47.420
Open Librarian, a website for tracking and sharing a lot of books.
1165
00:59:48.780 --> 00:59:53.120
Jumbo, yet another Noster desktop client.
1166
00:59:54.180 --> 00:59:58.680
Honeypot, a multiple wallets, multiple currencies project by Pablo.
1167
01:00:00.540 --> 01:00:06.780
Mutester, Noster, Live Noster, muted list, live monitor.
1168
01:00:07.080 --> 01:00:07.720
That's nice.
1169
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:14.700
Noster Gadgets, high level utils for developing Noster clients based on Noster
1170
01:00:14.700 --> 01:00:20.840
tools, Noster tools, TypeScript, Noster library for developing Noster clients.
1171
01:00:22.120 --> 01:00:23.160
Noster is moving, man.
1172
01:00:23.240 --> 01:00:24.100
Things just work.
1173
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.360
I've been testing the Primo 2.0, really enjoying the builds.
1174
01:00:29.240 --> 01:00:30.320
It needs more Bitcoiners.
1175
01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:33.260
I find that like there's not enough Bitcoiners there.
1176
01:00:33.720 --> 01:00:36.300
We need more Bitcoin talk there.
1177
01:00:36.300 --> 01:00:42.780
I also really would love to have like an Instagram type Noster experience in a
1178
01:00:42.780 --> 01:00:43.320
different app.
1179
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:45.020
Nobody provides that.
1180
01:00:45.080 --> 01:00:46.780
You know, sharing photos, that would be cool.
1181
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:48.180
That's a good idea.
1182
01:00:48.680 --> 01:00:52.140
Yeah, like, but like more sort of, you know, photos that you feel like, OK,
1183
01:00:52.780 --> 01:00:55.460
posting publicly like Instagram was way back then.
1184
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:57.940
It's kind of fun for people who like photos.
1185
01:00:58.040 --> 01:00:59.120
Yeah, I do.
1186
01:00:59.260 --> 01:01:01.880
I do think it's, I'm sure this has been talked about a lot.
1187
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:07.180
A lot of the problems that people had with Twitter have gone away, you know, in
1188
01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:07.860
the last year.
1189
01:01:08.220 --> 01:01:12.980
So the market, the market landscape in the last couple of years has changed
1190
01:01:12.980 --> 01:01:14.000
dramatically.
1191
01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:18.880
And during the election or even like right now, it's felt like very vital.
1192
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:26.520
It's like, hey, we're starting a Twitter campaign or an X campaign to, you
1193
01:01:26.520 --> 01:01:30.940
know, make Trump do this nomination instead of this nominate, you know, like.
1194
01:01:30.940 --> 01:01:34.620
Yeah, I mean, X is like the media, political and cultural center of the
1195
01:01:34.620 --> 01:01:37.740
universe right now, which is kind of insane.
1196
01:01:38.260 --> 01:01:41.700
And if something gets censored on YouTube, it like ends up on X.
1197
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.160
Yeah, it's how you complain about censorship on other apps.
1198
01:01:46.020 --> 01:01:49.460
So I would tell myself what's like this election kind of thing blows over.
1199
01:01:49.600 --> 01:01:53.460
I can kind of like either go off of social for a while or just go
1200
01:01:53.460 --> 01:01:53.840
on Noster.
1201
01:01:54.100 --> 01:01:58.680
But I think I think there is a few mistakes that like the Noster folks are
1202
01:01:58.680 --> 01:01:59.100
making.
1203
01:01:59.620 --> 01:02:02.440
First of all, it's thinking the competition is static or thinking you don't
1204
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:03.880
have competition, right?
1205
01:02:03.940 --> 01:02:07.540
Like most people don't care how the technology works.
1206
01:02:07.700 --> 01:02:11.860
If it feels like it's what they want to feel like, for example, people want to
1207
01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:16.280
feel like there's less censorship, they will go for the one that has the most
1208
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:16.940
amount of people.
1209
01:02:17.140 --> 01:02:18.700
That's how networks work, right?
1210
01:02:18.720 --> 01:02:24.480
I mean, it does seem like I notice on my X now, like a handful of
1211
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:28.020
people who are leaving, probably because they think it's become too right wing
1212
01:02:28.020 --> 01:02:29.220
and political or stuff.
1213
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.480
Yeah, the liberals are fleeing the blue sky.
1214
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:33.420
They're all going to blue sky and freds.
1215
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:34.800
There's a lot of them on freds as well.
1216
01:02:35.180 --> 01:02:37.640
Blue sky is fully centralized, too, which is retarded.
1217
01:02:37.980 --> 01:02:43.760
They post like sneaky like references to blue sky, like they like, oh, don't
1218
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.340
look too hard, but you might see a butterfly in this picture.
1219
01:02:46.740 --> 01:02:46.980
Right.
1220
01:02:47.700 --> 01:02:51.640
I mean, see, like I don't have any of those people in my feeds, like I
1221
01:02:51.640 --> 01:02:52.360
don't know them.
1222
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.960
Yeah, I mean, I follow a handful of them who are just really good software
1223
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.080
engineers, right, who are tend to be like very left.
1224
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:02.760
And you can tell they're sort of upset about what has happened to Twitter.
1225
01:03:04.260 --> 01:03:10.160
Yeah, it's I mean, like this is kind of like it really feels like it's a
1226
01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:10.860
public square.
1227
01:03:11.080 --> 01:03:12.760
It's the normal public square, right?
1228
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.580
Like there is a dude vomiting, there is a dude screaming crazy shit, and then
1229
01:03:16.580 --> 01:03:19.100
you're trying to have a conversation about where you're going to go for dinner,
1230
01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:19.820
right?
1231
01:03:19.820 --> 01:03:22.040
Like that's what the public square literally is like.
1232
01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:26.420
But, you know, like I think most people don't want free speech.
1233
01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:31.280
Most people want like, you know, they want just a nicer sell.
1234
01:03:31.740 --> 01:03:32.060
Right.
1235
01:03:32.120 --> 01:03:35.900
They want just like they want their censorship, which is very fair.
1236
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.140
I mean, that's what filters are for.
1237
01:03:37.420 --> 01:03:38.900
I just want the protocol to be open.
1238
01:03:39.020 --> 01:03:41.300
And I think Elon is going to make even more closed.
1239
01:03:42.420 --> 01:03:45.220
I mean, like I mean, the best thing that could happen to Nostra is if they
1240
01:03:45.220 --> 01:03:49.000
start censoring people on Twitter, but I don't think that's going to happen for
1241
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:49.520
a long time.
1242
01:03:49.700 --> 01:03:51.080
That's exactly my point.
1243
01:03:51.220 --> 01:03:55.000
It's like the reverse has happened, right?
1244
01:03:55.020 --> 01:03:58.840
There's all these accounts that were banned, you know, years ago that are
1245
01:03:58.840 --> 01:03:59.420
coming back.
1246
01:03:59.780 --> 01:03:59.880
Yeah.
1247
01:04:00.720 --> 01:04:06.480
And also, like I think what the lefties have a hard time with is that like
1248
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.220
they're not funny, right?
1249
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.640
Like it's like commies don't have a sense of humor, right?
1250
01:04:11.700 --> 01:04:13.900
Like and they are very thin skinned.
1251
01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:21.000
So like it's always going to sound like the free side or the people who are
1252
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.360
more righty are like louder and bigger on these things because they just
1253
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:27.520
they're just funnier.
1254
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.080
It's like the left kid meme, right?
1255
01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:32.980
Like that was the meme.
1256
01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:37.240
And so, yeah, like, yeah.
1257
01:04:37.340 --> 01:04:40.340
And I mean, I really hope that Nostra doesn't become like a commie shithole
1258
01:04:40.340 --> 01:04:45.000
because then I'm going to need to I'm going to need to censor that on my
1259
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:46.720
relay.
1260
01:04:48.080 --> 01:04:50.700
I was having a similar conversation with someone who works on Erbit.
1261
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:54.700
And they were like, you know, our whole idea was that the Internet was going to
1262
01:04:54.700 --> 01:04:55.900
become like a censored ghetto.
1263
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.260
You wouldn't be able to have any rights or freedoms on it.
1264
01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:02.980
And so you needed this whole operative system as their thesis.
1265
01:05:03.160 --> 01:05:06.760
And they're like, well, the premise has been proven totally inaccurate the last
1266
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:07.940
year.
1267
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:09.800
So now they're like really reevaluated.
1268
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.000
This is always like the safety in line.
1269
01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:13.220
Like, how do you kill Bitcoin?
1270
01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:15.440
It's like, well, you make the US dollar really good.
1271
01:05:16.780 --> 01:05:17.300
Right.
1272
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:18.760
Yeah.
1273
01:05:18.860 --> 01:05:23.840
I mean, the worst thing that can happen to privacy tools is when the non that
1274
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.840
the centralized tools become more free, even though the underlying attack is
1275
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:33.260
still very closed because you attract people, because, you know, centralized
1276
01:05:33.260 --> 01:05:34.980
systems are more efficient, period.
1277
01:05:35.240 --> 01:05:37.880
Like you can't compete with centralized system inefficiency.
1278
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:38.220
Right.
1279
01:05:38.940 --> 01:05:42.860
And they already come with, you know, the lindy of the network effect.
1280
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:48.140
Now, I feel like right now that I'm just getting to this point in my life
1281
01:05:48.140 --> 01:05:51.340
where I'm just so sick of logging into things.
1282
01:05:52.160 --> 01:05:52.260
Right.
1283
01:05:52.600 --> 01:05:58.500
And like the off, especially if you like to use lots of different services and
1284
01:05:58.500 --> 01:06:02.780
especially if you like to like work things together, like connect things
1285
01:06:02.780 --> 01:06:03.200
together.
1286
01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:08.180
Like the fact that everything in the world is a SaaS that has a separate
1287
01:06:08.180 --> 01:06:11.920
database and a separate logon is really retarded.
1288
01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:17.100
And I do think that's possibly the edge that Nostra could have still in the
1289
01:06:17.100 --> 01:06:22.960
future of like by being public key based and and trying to have standardized
1290
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:23.660
data formats.
1291
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:28.480
I think there's still a lot of opportunity there, but maybe I don't feel right
1292
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.820
now like I need a social media alternative.
1293
01:06:30.820 --> 01:06:32.740
You know, we did this whole series, right?
1294
01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:33.800
Nostra Rising series.
1295
01:06:34.060 --> 01:06:36.120
There were like one hour episodes with about 10 of them.
1296
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:37.340
They're really good.
1297
01:06:37.380 --> 01:06:39.320
People should go listen to them if you want to understand Nostra.
1298
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.640
And, you know, I was talking to Fiat Jaff.
1299
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.480
He made this point because, you know, like people say, yeah, but I don't see
1300
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:46.080
all the replies.
1301
01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:50.960
And he made this point where it's like, you know, you know, Twitter is one
1302
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:51.280
relay.
1303
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:52.620
Facebook's another relay.
1304
01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:55.880
You don't see other replies because, you know, you don't see the replies on
1305
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:57.120
Facebook on your Twitter.
1306
01:06:57.600 --> 01:06:57.960
Right.
1307
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:03.080
And the big myth that these large companies are having is that like they could
1308
01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:06.520
greatly gain from opening their networks.
1309
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:07.760
It's very counterintuitive.
1310
01:07:08.600 --> 01:07:08.700
Right.
1311
01:07:08.700 --> 01:07:13.160
Because imagine if you have a way to see like for companies go and they post
1312
01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:14.440
in every fucking network.
1313
01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:14.860
Right.
1314
01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:18.220
And it's the same post.
1315
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:18.540
Right.
1316
01:07:18.540 --> 01:07:20.860
The same marketing posts in every fucking network.
1317
01:07:21.460 --> 01:07:23.920
And imagine if you could see all those replies in the same place.
1318
01:07:23.980 --> 01:07:24.080
Right.
1319
01:07:24.080 --> 01:07:27.560
Imagine you as an artist, you post your art and then all the replies from all
1320
01:07:27.560 --> 01:07:30.500
these places come and show and you choose how these things play out.
1321
01:07:30.680 --> 01:07:30.780
Right.
1322
01:07:31.540 --> 01:07:36.560
So like if Twitter like exposed their content out, I think it would have even
1323
01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:37.980
more reach than they have now.
1324
01:07:38.560 --> 01:07:39.440
It'd be pretty crazy.
1325
01:07:41.080 --> 01:07:44.940
I mean, Zucco probably wants some of that because Facebook seems to be dying.
1326
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.900
They make all their money from Instagram and WhatsApp is the common carrier
1327
01:07:49.900 --> 01:07:51.020
outside of North America.
1328
01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:51.300
Right.
1329
01:07:51.300 --> 01:07:54.240
Like you cannot exist in Latin countries without WhatsApp.
1330
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.380
Like you talk to your lawyer over WhatsApp.
1331
01:07:57.380 --> 01:07:58.420
There's no email.
1332
01:07:58.540 --> 01:07:59.060
It's just WhatsApp.
1333
01:07:59.200 --> 01:07:59.840
WhatsApp everything.
1334
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:05.480
You order food over WhatsApp and all the segregated things depending on phone
1335
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:05.880
numbers.
1336
01:08:06.080 --> 01:08:07.740
It all feels like a house of cards.
1337
01:08:08.040 --> 01:08:08.140
Right.
1338
01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:09.840
But it's also I can see it.
1339
01:08:09.900 --> 01:08:10.000
Right.
1340
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.140
Like why would you open your network if you're a top dog and have the risk
1341
01:08:14.140 --> 01:08:16.760
of losing that monopoly on a network?
1342
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:20.260
It's very hard for you to be incentivized to open it.
1343
01:08:21.100 --> 01:08:25.399
But I do miss the Twitter APIs used to be really nice when they had them.
1344
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.960
All right.
1345
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:28.520
Yeah.
1346
01:08:28.620 --> 01:08:31.380
So a bunch of Nostra updates to every single client.
1347
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:39.120
Oh, by the way, there is now the feed marketplaces are really growing, which is
1348
01:08:39.120 --> 01:08:39.740
really cool.
1349
01:08:40.580 --> 01:08:43.899
That's common for most of the clients that are on this list that we would talk
1350
01:08:43.899 --> 01:08:44.580
about updates.
1351
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.060
You can actually load different feeds like a marketplace, like you can create
1352
01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:54.140
feeds and post them and then people can subscribe to those feeds.
1353
01:08:54.700 --> 01:08:55.819
That's super power.
1354
01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:57.300
What else?
1355
01:08:58.100 --> 01:08:58.620
Boosts.
1356
01:08:58.779 --> 01:09:01.660
Thanks for everyone who stream stats and shout out to the top boosters.
1357
01:09:02.180 --> 01:09:03.040
Ape me friend here.
1358
01:09:03.740 --> 01:09:04.779
Not long enough.
1359
01:09:05.120 --> 01:09:06.200
Was still awake at the end.
1360
01:09:06.700 --> 01:09:07.960
Man, I'm going to disappoint you again.
1361
01:09:08.100 --> 01:09:11.000
This seems to be that we got to the list fairly efficiently.
1362
01:09:12.300 --> 01:09:14.520
Odell is not here to take massive tangents.
1363
01:09:15.500 --> 01:09:17.640
So the show does run faster.
1364
01:09:19.420 --> 01:09:19.939
It's cute.
1365
01:09:21.060 --> 01:09:22.560
BTC on board.
1366
01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:23.460
Great pod.
1367
01:09:24.140 --> 01:09:26.100
Von Photo, thanks for the stats.
1368
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:27.100
Average Gary.
1369
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:32.040
Red, green, colorblind, wrecked from NVK trading advice.
1370
01:09:33.160 --> 01:09:37.300
So yes, guys, you sell on red and you buy on green.
1371
01:09:38.300 --> 01:09:39.859
This is not trading advice.
1372
01:09:43.340 --> 01:09:49.160
Did you guys see that funny post about the chicken that makes trading calls?
1373
01:09:49.160 --> 01:09:53.640
The guy figured out like he uses the chicken and he puts food like in the
1374
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.460
different calls and then the chicken makes the call and the chicken apparently
1375
01:09:57.460 --> 01:10:01.020
outperformed like most traders on Twitter.
1376
01:10:02.140 --> 01:10:03.140
It's really good.
1377
01:10:04.500 --> 01:10:09.740
I was like the anecdote that like traders in comas often outperform.
1378
01:10:11.140 --> 01:10:15.820
I saw a funny one that somebody tracking all the different stock portfolio
1379
01:10:15.820 --> 01:10:16.520
things.
1380
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.260
And like Nancy Pelosi's stock portfolio is like up like 50, 60 percent this
1381
01:10:20.260 --> 01:10:20.420
year.
1382
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.640
Like the only mainstream one that was beating her was Inverse Kramer.
1383
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.440
I mean, the Kramer one, it is amazing.
1384
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.820
Like I mean, his inversity consistency is remarkable.
1385
01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:37.040
Like nothing like it.
1386
01:10:37.140 --> 01:10:37.240
Right.
1387
01:10:37.260 --> 01:10:38.300
He's like an oracle.
1388
01:10:38.620 --> 01:10:40.080
He even called the US election.
1389
01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:40.300
Right.
1390
01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:41.740
He said Trump wasn't going to win.
1391
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:43.760
It is amazing.
1392
01:10:44.240 --> 01:10:45.480
Tech tips of the day.
1393
01:10:45.820 --> 01:10:49.600
Local send an open source cross-platform alternative to airdrop.
1394
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:52.060
Go slow with this kind of stuff.
1395
01:10:52.140 --> 01:10:53.500
You never know what kind of holes is there.
1396
01:10:54.820 --> 01:10:58.900
Disable 2G mobile connectivity for iPhone devices using lockdown mode to help
1397
01:10:58.900 --> 01:11:03.660
you protect against downgrade attacks from IMSI, cachers or FIC.
1398
01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:03.940
Yeah.
1399
01:11:04.360 --> 01:11:06.780
So 2G doesn't have a lot of security.
1400
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.460
And same with GPRS.
1401
01:11:09.980 --> 01:11:14.800
And that's how a lot of those spoofing cell towers are used in hacker
1402
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:15.720
conferences and things.
1403
01:11:15.940 --> 01:11:16.040
Yeah.
1404
01:11:16.320 --> 01:11:16.560
Interesting.
1405
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:18.980
So, yeah, lockdown mode is good for everything.
1406
01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:22.140
Just fucking run it on lockdown mode and then keep on annoying the developers
1407
01:11:22.140 --> 01:11:24.920
of apps to fix their app to work with lockdown mode.
1408
01:11:25.300 --> 01:11:26.200
That's the correct path.
1409
01:11:27.200 --> 01:11:29.480
I didn't know 2G was still in these phones.
1410
01:11:29.700 --> 01:11:30.060
That's wild.
1411
01:11:30.240 --> 01:11:30.540
Yeah, it is.
1412
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:34.180
GPRS is used in payment terminals all over the world still.
1413
01:11:34.620 --> 01:11:38.020
Maybe in third world shitholes like Europe.
1414
01:11:38.460 --> 01:11:40.460
Like many American states.
1415
01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:42.720
Nice.
1416
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:46.080
You know, like Mississippi and Europe.
1417
01:11:46.400 --> 01:11:47.200
That's the only one.
1418
01:11:47.700 --> 01:11:48.460
No, dude.
1419
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:50.700
Like, have you ever been to O'Hare Airport?
1420
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:51.780
Jesus Christ.
1421
01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:57.640
It's like I just arrived in like Bratislava or something during the, you know,
1422
01:11:57.740 --> 01:11:58.660
the Cold War or something.
1423
01:11:58.740 --> 01:11:59.340
It's pretty brutal.
1424
01:12:00.200 --> 01:12:00.380
Yeah.
1425
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.260
And the politeness of the staff really makes you feel at home.
1426
01:12:03.820 --> 01:12:04.040
Yeah.
1427
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.940
Makes up for the lack of 21st century amenities.
1428
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:08.900
Right.
1429
01:12:09.160 --> 01:12:09.660
Exactly.
1430
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:11.280
Like walls.
1431
01:12:15.460 --> 01:12:18.780
It's like essentially like a rusting hut.
1432
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:22.520
Man, US airports are brutal.
1433
01:12:23.080 --> 01:12:26.200
Highlights from recent Bitcoin Optec newsletters.
1434
01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:28.040
Disclosure vulnerability we talked about.
1435
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.520
Timeout 3 channels, factories.
1436
01:12:31.900 --> 01:12:33.880
DraftBip4D lack proofs.
1437
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:36.280
I think we talked about this a little on the last episode.
1438
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:37.380
I can't remember.
1439
01:12:38.360 --> 01:12:40.540
Andolo and Florian.
1440
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:42.900
I can't say those names, man.
1441
01:12:43.500 --> 01:12:47.400
Payment censorship in Lightning Network despite encrypted communication.
1442
01:12:48.460 --> 01:12:50.060
This came up a bit, Devs.
1443
01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:53.380
I don't know this specific paper, but the kind of the idea, a lot of these
1444
01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:58.360
new payments, the Bolt 12 is based on this idea that we're going to communicate
1445
01:12:58.360 --> 01:13:00.220
over the Lightning Network.
1446
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:01.120
Right.
1447
01:13:02.260 --> 01:13:03.740
This works going forward.
1448
01:13:04.220 --> 01:13:08.700
But basically, Bolt 12 is enough information to send a message over the
1449
01:13:08.700 --> 01:13:12.100
Lightning Network to get the actual invoice from the node.
1450
01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:14.400
So there's some nice privacy aspects to that.
1451
01:13:14.500 --> 01:13:19.860
There's also kind of a newfound reliance on Lightning as the communication
1452
01:13:19.860 --> 01:13:21.220
medium.
1453
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:22.060
Right.
1454
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.260
I mean, you know, Lightning communication should really be done over Nostra.
1455
01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:32.680
You know, Lightning messages are brutal, very inefficient and cost money.
1456
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.940
I don't think messages should go over a carrier to cost money.
1457
01:13:36.280 --> 01:13:38.140
It's just not aligning incentives.
1458
01:13:38.460 --> 01:13:41.320
Well, these messages are not, they don't cost money.
1459
01:13:41.400 --> 01:13:43.340
That's kind of almost potentially the problem.
1460
01:13:44.280 --> 01:13:44.480
Really?
1461
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:48.340
Yeah, it's like the same way that you kind of do gossip and stuff.
1462
01:13:48.500 --> 01:13:48.860
Oh, OK.
1463
01:13:48.860 --> 01:13:53.840
These are the unpaid communication that Lightning nodes do between each other.
1464
01:13:53.940 --> 01:13:58.800
And now you can, part of Bolt 12 is to use that for requesting the actual
1465
01:13:58.800 --> 01:13:59.160
invoice.
1466
01:13:59.340 --> 01:13:59.600
OK.
1467
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.900
Blockstream opens its newest research center in Lugano.
1468
01:14:04.340 --> 01:14:05.000
OK, that's marketing.
1469
01:14:06.360 --> 01:14:10.360
Caso S integrates Albi Hub, a self-studio Lightning wallet and Lightning
1470
01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:11.620
Network node.
1471
01:14:12.040 --> 01:14:16.840
Caso S is a community-driven open source platform focused on delivering a
1472
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.620
simple home cloud experience.
1473
01:14:19.240 --> 01:14:19.340
Cool.
1474
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:20.660
I had a double take of that one.
1475
01:14:20.780 --> 01:14:23.380
That was Caso's, like, four or five years ago.
1476
01:14:23.620 --> 01:14:24.120
I know, right?
1477
01:14:24.140 --> 01:14:25.600
They're bringing back the Raspberry Pi.
1478
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:30.100
And that was their original pitch, was like, this is the sovereign computing of
1479
01:14:30.100 --> 01:14:30.540
the future.
1480
01:14:30.860 --> 01:14:32.540
It's a different project.
1481
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:33.660
It's a different Caso.
1482
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:35.460
Not me Caso, it's you Caso.
1483
01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:37.720
Very good.
1484
01:14:41.420 --> 01:14:42.620
Johnny, where's the gong?
1485
01:14:43.540 --> 01:14:45.480
We need the gong, yes.
1486
01:14:46.700 --> 01:14:51.180
Block refocuses on Bitcoin mining equipment and BigKey reduces investment in
1487
01:14:51.180 --> 01:14:55.020
Tidal, Shutdowns, TBD, Block, Decentralized Web 5 projects.
1488
01:14:55.020 --> 01:15:04.580
I mean, TBD, TBD, TBD was the DID stuff and all those
1489
01:15:04.580 --> 01:15:05.080
things.
1490
01:15:06.240 --> 01:15:07.620
TBD got replaced by Noster.
1491
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.240
Yeah, I mean, that's a big, that's a pretty big announcement, right?
1492
01:15:11.340 --> 01:15:12.220
Like, that was a whole business.
1493
01:15:12.380 --> 01:15:15.420
I mean, like Block had like seven business units and this was one of them.
1494
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:16.800
So it's...
1495
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:21.040
TBD was going to be some sort of like decentralized exchange too.
1496
01:15:22.100 --> 01:15:26.580
Yeah, they were going to do remittances and have a big decentralized exchange
1497
01:15:26.580 --> 01:15:27.300
and all these things.
1498
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:28.420
This is the problem.
1499
01:15:28.660 --> 01:15:33.800
Like, if you hire a bunch of like researchers, you come out to research.
1500
01:15:34.580 --> 01:15:37.080
You hire business people, you come out to the business.
1501
01:15:37.080 --> 01:15:39.160
This is like the DID stuff.
1502
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:40.020
Yes.
1503
01:15:40.280 --> 01:15:45.740
They like, they like standards and like committee meetings about standards.
1504
01:15:45.980 --> 01:15:47.960
And they don't ship enough.
1505
01:15:48.320 --> 01:15:48.560
Yes.
1506
01:15:49.160 --> 01:15:51.920
Fold app introduces insured deposits.
1507
01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:53.780
That's cool.
1508
01:15:54.340 --> 01:15:56.460
Fold has a, Fold went public, man.
1509
01:15:56.540 --> 01:15:57.840
You can buy Fold FLD.
1510
01:15:58.180 --> 01:15:59.480
What exchange was it on?
1511
01:15:59.780 --> 01:16:01.500
Was it on like Canadian owners?
1512
01:16:02.060 --> 01:16:05.200
Yeah, I think, but I think they listed on NASDAQ too or something.
1513
01:16:05.400 --> 01:16:05.620
I don't know.
1514
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:05.900
Oh, really?
1515
01:16:06.280 --> 01:16:06.520
Yeah.
1516
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:12.320
And I mean, I've been trying to convince Will, the CEO of Fold, to become a
1517
01:16:12.320 --> 01:16:15.560
meme CEO, like GameStop or something, you know.
1518
01:16:16.060 --> 01:16:19.260
He can do a stock split because the stock is right now at $11.
1519
01:16:19.580 --> 01:16:20.680
So it goes like sub-dollar.
1520
01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:25.340
So he has a penny stock and then he changes his mind on TV and brings
1521
01:16:25.340 --> 01:16:25.860
it back.
1522
01:16:27.140 --> 01:16:29.000
Like all kinds of crazy shit.
1523
01:16:29.360 --> 01:16:29.500
Yeah.
1524
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:30.540
That'd be pretty funny.
1525
01:16:32.100 --> 01:16:33.940
They are offering a lot of banking services now.
1526
01:16:34.340 --> 01:16:36.340
Strike introduces Bitcoin on withdrawals.
1527
01:16:36.380 --> 01:16:36.980
That's good.
1528
01:16:37.980 --> 01:16:40.800
I think they're kind of running the sailor playbook too, or at least it sounded
1529
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:45.040
like that's one of the things they wanted to do to start becoming a publicly
1530
01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:47.540
listed, you know, Bitcoin treasury.
1531
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.380
There's that company in Japan that's doing the same thing as well.
1532
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:51.860
Yes, Metaplanet.
1533
01:16:52.140 --> 01:16:53.300
Dylan did that one.
1534
01:16:53.660 --> 01:16:55.260
Dylan convinced some people there.
1535
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:58.700
Yeah, I mean, it's like it really is amazing if you have like access to cheap
1536
01:16:58.700 --> 01:16:59.000
credit.
1537
01:16:59.140 --> 01:16:59.960
I mean, it's a money printer.
1538
01:17:00.740 --> 01:17:03.160
It's surprising more companies haven't gotten on board.
1539
01:17:03.240 --> 01:17:04.280
It's like it's quite shot.
1540
01:17:04.440 --> 01:17:09.020
Like when you think of all these Fortune 500 CEOs with their thumb up their ass
1541
01:17:09.020 --> 01:17:11.320
watching, watching Saylor being the third.
1542
01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:12.880
Are you like surprised?
1543
01:17:13.220 --> 01:17:15.780
Remember when Bitcoin was starting out, like people would not buy Bitcoin
1544
01:17:15.780 --> 01:17:17.260
because it's clearly for drug dealers.
1545
01:17:17.440 --> 01:17:18.700
You know, it's just like it's hopeless.
1546
01:17:18.900 --> 01:17:21.360
I mean, I've been I've been thinking about this a lot in the last couple of
1547
01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:25.740
days because at least it seems like, you know, like it's changing too early.
1548
01:17:25.980 --> 01:17:29.360
Well, it's too early to say, but it seems like the nation states may be
1549
01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:30.860
actually biting on Bitcoin, right?
1550
01:17:30.900 --> 01:17:34.220
Like that's what these, you know, David Bailey and stuff is telling us.
1551
01:17:34.220 --> 01:17:36.900
Who knows if it's true, but I have a friend.
1552
01:17:37.120 --> 01:17:38.300
I have some rumors.
1553
01:17:38.300 --> 01:17:38.760
Yeah.
1554
01:17:39.040 --> 01:17:42.060
So but I mean, like the price action is like, you know, seems to somewhat
1555
01:17:42.060 --> 01:17:42.720
support it.
1556
01:17:43.100 --> 01:17:43.480
So who knows?
1557
01:17:43.540 --> 01:17:45.140
Like probably probably be us.
1558
01:17:45.380 --> 01:17:49.780
But we do have sitting senators and the president saying it's going to, you
1559
01:17:49.780 --> 01:17:53.360
know, the U.S. is going to do it is kind of is interesting, you know,
1560
01:17:53.380 --> 01:17:57.420
like maybe it seems like corporations are much more conservative when it comes
1561
01:17:57.420 --> 01:18:01.500
to Bitcoin than potentially states are kind of thought provoking.
1562
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:05.340
I mean, it's nobody wants to lose their job making the proposition and the
1563
01:18:05.340 --> 01:18:06.060
price goes down.
1564
01:18:06.300 --> 01:18:06.600
Yeah.
1565
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:10.960
I mean, that's the thing is like these people that get to the top of companies
1566
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:14.700
are extraordinarily conservative, you know, like they are.
1567
01:18:14.860 --> 01:18:18.280
They did everything according to the book, especially the finance guy.
1568
01:18:18.360 --> 01:18:19.700
It's like the most conservative guy.
1569
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:25.040
And I think maybe the people that get this top of states had to make some,
1570
01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:27.680
you know, some more some bigger moves.
1571
01:18:27.780 --> 01:18:27.980
Right.
1572
01:18:28.080 --> 01:18:30.180
Like have a guy killed.
1573
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.780
Well, hearing the back story of the whole Biden thing is like funny.
1574
01:18:34.780 --> 01:18:38.800
It seems like they tried to, you know, replace Biden and have an open primary.
1575
01:18:39.080 --> 01:18:42.240
And Biden is just like decides to blow the whole thing up by endorsing Kamala.
1576
01:18:42.340 --> 01:18:42.520
Right.
1577
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:45.660
It's like you get a sense of how that guy accumulated so much power.
1578
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:50.420
I mean, he's just like a brutal, you know, player.
1579
01:18:50.820 --> 01:18:51.220
Yeah.
1580
01:18:52.300 --> 01:18:54.840
1031 launches Bitcoin Alpha, a new podcast.
1581
01:18:55.100 --> 01:18:58.220
I can't tell if it's a joke or not because I'm getting 404.
1582
01:18:58.880 --> 01:18:59.200
Oh, no.
1583
01:18:59.940 --> 01:19:00.600
Bitcoin Alpha.
1584
01:19:01.620 --> 01:19:02.320
There you go.
1585
01:19:02.440 --> 01:19:03.920
I've seen Marty posting about it.
1586
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:06.700
This is Marty's fifth or sixth podcast at this point.
1587
01:19:07.500 --> 01:19:10.120
OK, I listened to one of the episodes.
1588
01:19:10.340 --> 01:19:11.340
Very, very good stuff.
1589
01:19:11.740 --> 01:19:12.980
OK, I'm going to listen to it.
1590
01:19:13.280 --> 01:19:15.780
Clean Spark finalized acquisition of grid infrastructure.
1591
01:19:16.400 --> 01:19:16.980
Bitcoin mining.
1592
01:19:17.180 --> 01:19:22.580
Yeah, this guy's grid got acquired or merged.
1593
01:19:25.620 --> 01:19:28.500
Nosto Show is now live in Australia and New Zealand.
1594
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:32.780
Not interested in this shit for this show.
1595
01:19:32.780 --> 01:19:36.760
Funding OpenSats announces eighth wave of Nostra grants.
1596
01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:45.040
Farmster Group's coop, not coop, co-op, Nostrability and NIP44 libraries audit.
1597
01:19:46.220 --> 01:19:50.140
NIP44 is not DMs. That's something I really want.
1598
01:19:50.460 --> 01:19:55.720
Yeah, that could be Nostra's killer app if it just had a good open protocol for
1599
01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:56.760
DMs. Yeah.
1600
01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:59.400
So there is a better that NIP44 is broken.
1601
01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:01.940
It's like don't don't use Nostra DMs as they are.
1602
01:20:02.780 --> 01:20:08.900
Jeff G is working on an MLS integration with Nostra that is like fully native
1603
01:20:08.900 --> 01:20:09.460
to Nostra.
1604
01:20:09.820 --> 01:20:10.220
It's great.
1605
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:12.260
It's really progressing.
1606
01:20:13.340 --> 01:20:15.260
So that's moving along.
1607
01:20:17.180 --> 01:20:19.780
Many ratchets, all kinds of ratchets.
1608
01:20:20.280 --> 01:20:22.200
We had a whole episode on it.
1609
01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:28.520
Mining Dutch telecom subsidiary MMS collaborates with blah, blah, blah, blah,
1610
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:29.640
blah, blah, blah, blah.
1611
01:20:30.240 --> 01:20:30.980
Moving on.
1612
01:20:31.860 --> 01:20:33.440
The Dutch have telecoms?
1613
01:20:34.660 --> 01:20:35.700
I know, right?
1614
01:20:36.240 --> 01:20:36.700
With a K.
1615
01:20:38.180 --> 01:20:38.740
Privacy.
1616
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:42.760
British activist and journalist Tommy Robbins was sentenced to 18 months in
1617
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:44.200
prison for failing to unlock his phone.
1618
01:20:44.300 --> 01:20:44.540
Police.
1619
01:20:44.660 --> 01:20:45.860
This is all so fucked up.
1620
01:20:47.300 --> 01:20:54.100
TD Bank anti laundering money employee is indicted for unlawful distribution of
1621
01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:56.740
customer's personal information.
1622
01:20:57.860 --> 01:20:58.540
Classic.
1623
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.360
The KYC is the crime.
1624
01:21:02.340 --> 01:21:05.480
Kenya to require incoming passengers to declare phone IME.
1625
01:21:06.140 --> 01:21:06.800
Jesus Christ.
1626
01:21:06.860 --> 01:21:08.960
Talk about tracking people when they come into the country.
1627
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:16.480
Apple adds inactive inactivity timer feature to iOS 18.1 that reboots iPhones
1628
01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:17.800
after prolonged inactivity.
1629
01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:19.140
Why is that?
1630
01:21:19.780 --> 01:21:24.420
That was the NSA remote remote watching getting hung up.
1631
01:21:24.420 --> 01:21:28.840
It says researchers confirm the feature shifts iPhones from after first unlock
1632
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:31.380
to the more secure before first unlock state.
1633
01:21:31.700 --> 01:21:36.960
So it's harder for forensic tools to extract your data if you go to a before
1634
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:38.160
first unlock state.
1635
01:21:38.300 --> 01:21:38.800
That's cool.
1636
01:21:39.180 --> 01:21:44.060
Like with an iPhone, when you restarted, it always asks you to, you know, your
1637
01:21:44.060 --> 01:21:45.380
passphrase again.
1638
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:45.780
Yep.
1639
01:21:45.820 --> 01:21:47.060
The whole chain of stuff they do.
1640
01:21:47.900 --> 01:21:49.720
Like it makes it harder to break into.
1641
01:21:50.400 --> 01:21:50.720
Yep.
1642
01:21:50.820 --> 01:21:52.700
Always turn off your phone to cross borders.
1643
01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:54.880
Ren Crypto.
1644
01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:57.860
Oh, you know, phones really need is a decoy pin, right?
1645
01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:02.900
You type that pin, it closes down the other session and then shows some some
1646
01:22:02.900 --> 01:22:03.440
normie.
1647
01:22:03.660 --> 01:22:06.000
Everything can be fixed with a decoy pin.
1648
01:22:06.300 --> 01:22:06.720
Everything.
1649
01:22:07.020 --> 01:22:09.820
Seriously, like plausible deniability is your friend.
1650
01:22:10.200 --> 01:22:10.380
Yeah.
1651
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:11.360
So is Candy Crush.
1652
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:14.840
Every phone needs a Candy Crush pin.
1653
01:22:15.500 --> 01:22:15.880
That's right.
1654
01:22:16.700 --> 01:22:20.980
Ren Crypto Fish, Steve Lee and Lynn Alden publish analyzing Bitcoin consensus
1655
01:22:20.980 --> 01:22:23.680
risks in protocol updates.
1656
01:22:24.340 --> 01:22:29.020
I'm really excited to so that there's a Citadel Dispatch episode about this
1657
01:22:29.020 --> 01:22:30.060
now, too.
1658
01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:32.660
I want to listen to that and I want to read through this.
1659
01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:37.280
But they're trying to, as far as I can understand, they're trying to just paint
1660
01:22:37.280 --> 01:22:43.400
a picture of how Bitcoin consensus actually works and the actual risks.
1661
01:22:43.400 --> 01:22:49.360
Like just people have a lot of half formed ideas about these things.
1662
01:22:49.580 --> 01:22:56.160
And then we have conversations and debates that are typically, you know, are
1663
01:22:56.160 --> 01:23:01.020
often ill-informed or just partially this.
1664
01:23:01.160 --> 01:23:02.340
There's a lot of misunderstandings.
1665
01:23:02.440 --> 01:23:04.500
It's a huge surface area to understand.
1666
01:23:04.620 --> 01:23:09.660
So I respect them for, like, trying to trying to tackle this and excited to
1667
01:23:09.660 --> 01:23:10.520
actually check it out.
1668
01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:13.920
I think the problem is every time somebody tries to do this, they get something
1669
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:17.320
like brutally wrong and then people are even more confused.
1670
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:18.960
I actually like that.
1671
01:23:19.320 --> 01:23:22.640
I don't think there is like a fixed way of looking at Bitcoin consensus.
1672
01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:25.640
I think it's like sort of like it varies a little bit depending on what's
1673
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:30.040
happening in Bitcoin because the players change and the players sort of power
1674
01:23:30.040 --> 01:23:30.720
change, too.
1675
01:23:30.820 --> 01:23:32.180
And that changes the dynamic itself.
1676
01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:36.880
And I think they even say that like this is not a roadmap for how to
1677
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:37.560
change Bitcoin.
1678
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:44.100
It's just they're trying to be descriptive of how Bitcoin has been changed in
1679
01:23:44.100 --> 01:23:44.620
the past.
1680
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:45.120
Why?
1681
01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:47.700
Let's leave it confusing so nobody can attack Bitcoin.
1682
01:23:47.860 --> 01:23:49.940
Yeah, I mean, I think it's not a roadmap.
1683
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:51.340
Oh, I see.
1684
01:23:51.500 --> 01:23:56.240
But any any greater understanding, you know, does inform people how to change
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01:23:56.240 --> 01:23:56.400
it.
1686
01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:58.600
Well, you don't want security through obscurity.
1687
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.980
Then just somebody smarter than you is going to figure it out.
1688
01:24:02.340 --> 01:24:04.260
No, like I don't buy that.
1689
01:24:04.260 --> 01:24:09.080
You know, I bet that most systems that are closed source became open source.
1690
01:24:09.220 --> 01:24:12.980
You'd immediately find so many bugs that were just not visible for you to
1691
01:24:12.980 --> 01:24:13.640
attack before.
1692
01:24:14.260 --> 01:24:15.880
You know, some obscurity does help.
1693
01:24:16.120 --> 01:24:17.460
You can't depend on it.
1694
01:24:17.740 --> 01:24:18.720
It's not really obscurity, though.
1695
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:20.080
It's disagreement, too, right?
1696
01:24:20.360 --> 01:24:21.260
There is that, too.
1697
01:24:21.380 --> 01:24:26.800
If I was trying to propose a soft fork in a year, I would maybe want
1698
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:31.780
to get everyone to agree on how soft forks are agreed upon and deployed before
1699
01:24:31.780 --> 01:24:32.980
I attempt my move.
1700
01:24:32.980 --> 01:24:35.680
Well, isn't that kind of what happened with Taproot?
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01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:40.660
Like everybody, we like, the moment there was like an agreement on how to do a
1702
01:24:40.660 --> 01:24:42.020
soft fork, there was like.
1703
01:24:42.980 --> 01:24:47.240
I mean, I guess because we wanted Taproot, maybe Taproot was the cause of that.
1704
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:54.740
Yeah, you know, again, it's one of those things that it's not clear cut.
1705
01:24:55.620 --> 01:24:59.400
And I think when people try to create a description of it that is like that's
1706
01:24:59.400 --> 01:25:01.480
fixed, they get it wrong.
1707
01:25:01.480 --> 01:25:03.680
I mean, I'd love to read it.
1708
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:04.980
I should read it.
1709
01:25:05.200 --> 01:25:07.040
You know, I'm not trying to criticize them.
1710
01:25:07.160 --> 01:25:08.520
I'm very curious about what they wrote.
1711
01:25:08.620 --> 01:25:10.020
I'm sure it's a lot of good in there.
1712
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:11.940
But Bitcoin is still one of those things.
1713
01:25:12.020 --> 01:25:13.720
It's like it's going to keep on changing.
1714
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:15.040
The dynamics change.
1715
01:25:17.080 --> 01:25:19.140
Well, they also said PR is welcome.
1716
01:25:19.500 --> 01:25:20.560
It's a living document.
1717
01:25:21.240 --> 01:25:21.840
There you go.
1718
01:25:23.100 --> 01:25:25.460
Somebody's going to make a PR there for Neil.
1719
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:29.680
And force push.
1720
01:25:31.360 --> 01:25:38.200
BIP 1676 updates the status of BIP 85 to final as it's now widely deployed.
1721
01:25:38.360 --> 01:25:39.600
Oh, this was such a shit show.
1722
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:42.060
It's nice to see it.
1723
01:25:43.380 --> 01:25:46.480
That is getting marked as final.
1724
01:25:48.940 --> 01:25:55.640
LDK issue 3207 adds the ability to include invoice requests in the async
1725
01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:59.040
payments and messages when paying static bill 12.
1726
01:26:00.100 --> 01:26:02.480
Government and political stuff.
1727
01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:04.880
Anything actually interesting here?
1728
01:26:05.440 --> 01:26:06.540
Or it was just charges.
1729
01:26:06.900 --> 01:26:11.140
Outum exchange operator of laundering funds linked to the Silk Road.
1730
01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:19.760
Bitcoin Fog alleged operator Roman Sterlingov has been sentenced to 12 years
1731
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:21.180
prison for money laundering.
1732
01:26:21.260 --> 01:26:24.380
Money laundering is like just they just invent whatever charges, right?
1733
01:26:24.380 --> 01:26:28.100
It's like it's like a random sort of like, oh, you're sending the money this
1734
01:26:28.100 --> 01:26:28.380
way.
1735
01:26:30.020 --> 01:26:30.520
Jail.
1736
01:26:31.440 --> 01:26:32.960
It's the new tax evasion.
1737
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:34.080
Yeah, totally.
1738
01:26:35.340 --> 01:26:39.420
Argentina's central bank hosts a live Bitcoin mining art exhibit.
1739
01:26:39.900 --> 01:26:41.380
That Argentina one is kind of cool.
1740
01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:46.620
It's like they're doing it like an art installation with running ASICs.
1741
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:47.620
That's kind of cool.
1742
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:49.320
That's cool.
1743
01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:55.080
The Bank of International Settlements exits cross-border payments project
1744
01:26:55.080 --> 01:26:56.200
Enbridge.
1745
01:26:56.940 --> 01:27:03.780
Sovereignty concerns arise over euro as European Union and European Central
1746
01:27:03.780 --> 01:27:05.680
Bank debate control.
1747
01:27:05.980 --> 01:27:09.160
Jesus, Europe is such a fucking communist shithole these days.
1748
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.760
Man, I feel I feel so bad for my European friends.
1749
01:27:13.040 --> 01:27:17.040
Like, man, it's weird how bad it goes there.
1750
01:27:17.040 --> 01:27:22.620
Like, it makes Canada look like fucking like Disneyland of freedom events.
1751
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:30.040
BTC Hell, the first ever large scale Bitcoin conference in Nordics, Helsinki.
1752
01:27:30.540 --> 01:27:35.340
BTC Hell, interesting name for a conference.
1753
01:27:35.500 --> 01:27:39.560
With an E for Helsinki, but it doesn't it doesn't pronounce right.
1754
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:42.760
This is this is where they're going to hash out all the consensus mechanisms,
1755
01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:44.660
BTC Hell.
1756
01:27:45.380 --> 01:27:45.980
That's right.
1757
01:27:46.660 --> 01:27:50.940
A list of reads, ossification by Jameson Lobb, quantum computing between hope
1758
01:27:50.940 --> 01:27:56.360
and hype by Scott Arson, Erson.
1759
01:27:57.420 --> 01:27:59.680
You can do it, Enrique, you can do it.
1760
01:28:00.280 --> 01:28:02.180
One more try, one more try.
1761
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:03.820
Erson, Erson.
1762
01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.120
Oh, there we go.
1763
01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:13.480
Analyzing Bitcoin consensus risks in protocol upgrades by Redfin, Steve Lee and
1764
01:28:13.480 --> 01:28:14.160
Lee Alden.
1765
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:18.520
Why I'm betting big on Nostra by Hive Mind Ventures.
1766
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.280
The case against Edits by PHF, that's a good one.
1767
01:28:23.860 --> 01:28:28.620
Digital Gold, evaluating strategic Bitcoin reserve for the United States by
1768
01:28:28.620 --> 01:28:29.820
Bitcoin Policy Institute.
1769
01:28:30.360 --> 01:28:31.700
That's what I'm talking about.
1770
01:28:31.900 --> 01:28:32.420
There you go.
1771
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:34.480
I don't want countries to have Bitcoin.
1772
01:28:35.120 --> 01:28:36.940
Like, I don't want governments to have anything.
1773
01:28:37.100 --> 01:28:40.200
I don't want other countries to have Bitcoin, I don't want my country to have
1774
01:28:40.200 --> 01:28:40.560
Bitcoin.
1775
01:28:40.660 --> 01:28:41.300
Well, there is that.
1776
01:28:41.420 --> 01:28:43.440
Yeah, that is one way of looking at it, for sure.
1777
01:28:44.300 --> 01:28:46.560
Hey, guys, did we miss anything?
1778
01:28:47.160 --> 01:28:49.280
Anything you guys come to mind?
1779
01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:54.040
I think we covered a lot today, very, very efficiently.
1780
01:28:54.340 --> 01:28:54.580
A lot.
1781
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:58.300
I believe this is the longest list that has ever been, pushing the limits of
1782
01:28:58.300 --> 01:28:59.880
GitHub Gists, I believe.
1783
01:29:00.100 --> 01:29:02.700
Dude, no, we had lists that were almost three hours long.
1784
01:29:03.700 --> 01:29:05.180
The lists are short right now.
1785
01:29:06.220 --> 01:29:10.840
They get, let's see, they get, Johnny's talking here, they get longer, much
1786
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:11.360
longer, see?
1787
01:29:12.380 --> 01:29:16.200
Yeah, it's just that Justin, Justin is, it's not used to hard work now for a
1788
01:29:16.200 --> 01:29:16.440
while.
1789
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:18.740
So, like, you know, it's OK.
1790
01:29:19.200 --> 01:29:21.940
Now that, now that he's got a lot more free time, he's going to, he's going
1791
01:29:21.940 --> 01:29:23.000
to be on the show more often.
1792
01:29:23.820 --> 01:29:26.200
He can read his resume at the beginning of the show.
1793
01:29:26.540 --> 01:29:28.620
I'm a co-founder of the show, I believe.
1794
01:29:28.980 --> 01:29:29.440
That's right.
1795
01:29:29.580 --> 01:29:30.420
You were, you were.
1796
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:32.180
That's at the beginning of my resume.
1797
01:29:32.540 --> 01:29:32.640
Yeah.
1798
01:29:33.240 --> 01:29:35.320
MVK had his tail between his legs at the beginning.
1799
01:29:35.440 --> 01:29:37.560
He was just so frightened by the microphone.
1800
01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:41.680
So we needed to, you know, to bring in some courageous alpha males like me and
1801
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:44.580
Odell to just help him, help him get going at the beginning.
1802
01:29:45.060 --> 01:29:45.340
Wow.
1803
01:29:45.900 --> 01:29:47.880
Justin and Odell are the alpha males here.
1804
01:29:48.040 --> 01:29:49.720
Like, we're really a bottom show.
1805
01:29:55.080 --> 01:29:59.460
Oh, guys, listen, thank you so much for coming on and being helpful here with
1806
01:29:59.460 --> 01:30:01.920
all this commits and all this updates.
1807
01:30:02.700 --> 01:30:04.400
Justin, any final thoughts?
1808
01:30:04.860 --> 01:30:06.880
Yeah, I mean, see you next time.
1809
01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:10.840
Yeah, I enjoy your, your cretin binge.
1810
01:30:11.400 --> 01:30:11.560
Yeah.
1811
01:30:11.980 --> 01:30:13.940
Future Paul, any final thoughts?
1812
01:30:14.400 --> 01:30:16.500
Bullish on the great script restoration.
1813
01:30:17.260 --> 01:30:17.720
Let's do it.
1814
01:30:18.260 --> 01:30:18.940
Awesome, guys.
1815
01:30:19.480 --> 01:30:20.420
Thank you, buddies.
1816
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:24.480
Thanks for listening.
1817
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:26.780
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1818
01:30:26.980 --> 01:30:28.540
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1819
01:30:28.780 --> 01:30:30.820
And remember, we don't have a crystal ball.
1820
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:32.480
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1821
01:30:32.780 --> 01:30:36.440
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