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Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast. It's time
for this week's Interview Classic where Wade Killer
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Interview is one of pro Wrestling's newsmakers. Ten years ago today I interviewed Diamond
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Dallas page four an episode talking about
wrestling and also technology and being motivated going
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into the new year. He talked
about DDP, yoga and some new technologies
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he's working with, also backstage politics
of WCW. When he won Battle Bowl,
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the prospects at interest level he has
had over the years in matches against
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Randy Orton or Undertaker at WrestleMania.
An update on the lives of former housemates
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Jake Roberts and Scott Hall. A
review of Mick Foley's stand up show,
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the difference between the WW Powerplant during
the nineteen nineties and the new WWE Performance
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Center, The origins of the Diamond
Cutter and what made it special compared to
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similar finishers, how he dealt with
backstabbers in WW during his rise, and
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more, including live calls. This
originally live streamed on December twenty seventh,
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twenty thirteen, ten years ago today, and it is today's Wade Keller Pro
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Wrestling Podcast Interview Classic for Wednesday,
December twenty seventh, twenty twenty three.
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Slash Pro Wrestling Torch, Welcome to
the people of your Torch live cast
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here on Friday, December twenty seventh, twenty thirteen. Our final interview Friday
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of twenty thirteen, and I am
excited to be introducing a return guest to
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the program, Diamond Dallas Page,
DDP, welcome back, Well, good
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to be here, and damn,
we still have never even finished our series
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yet. I think I'm passed Scott
Hall. Have I pass Scott Hall?
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Is the most talk time on budging
though? Absolutely I think you might have.
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There's a great torch talk that we
ran on Dallas Page few years ago
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in the Prosing Torch newsletter chronicling the
vast majority of your career just before WWE
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and we want to finish that one
of these one of these days. And
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I'm glad you brought that up.
It was a great time to have you
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on the show, because this is
the time of year year after the holidays,
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you're thrown away the wrapping paper,
trying to figure out what gifts you're
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gonna keep in return, and and
you've got to spend time with your family
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recovering from travel whatever it is,
and people start thinking about uh New Year's
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resolutions, And we're not gonna have
this show by any means entirely be a
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uh uh an infomercial for DDP Yoga
but that is one and you did not
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even suggest I do this, but
that is certainly one thing, uh DDP
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that some people might want to consider
if they're looking to get in shape,
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uh, you know, or get
in better shape or lose some weight.
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UH. Your program, I know
you were very proud of it, and
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uh it's good time to have you
on the show because I'm a believer in
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the too. I've uh I've seen
it make differences and I've really felt good
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after using the program. So we
certainly want to talk a little bit about
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that and and just just in general, how your post wrestling uh wrestling life
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is coming. I do want to
let people know though that if you do
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want to talk about uh WCW in
the late nineties or Damondellas Page's career in
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general, we absolutely welcome those phone
calls. Are number for that is six
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four six seven two one nine A
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seven two one nine A two eight. You can also email a question for
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DDP too PW Torch live cast at
gmail dot com. That's PW Torch live
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Cast at gmail dot com. And
we'll also talk about what's been going on
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DDP in your life with an update
on Jake Roberts and Scott Hall and all
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that good stuff. So I guess, first of all, DDP, I
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want to ask you, uh,
are you the type who has New Year's
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resolutions or are you just is every
day a day that you wake up with
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resolutions for how you want to change
for the better or set new goals?
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You know? I I don't have
them, and I I've never had.
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I may have had like a long
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first of the year, but I've
learned that you know, people when they
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achieve goals when they set because that's
what a resolution is. You say,
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I'm going to stop fighting my nails, I'm going to try to be nicer
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to my brother and sister. You
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the best grades I've ever gotten school. You know I'm gonna show I'm going
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to get whatever. The All you're
saying is you're setting a goal. The
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problem is most people with resolutions,
they don't write them down. This is
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the year I'm going to quit smoking. They never wrote it down, they
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didn't set a date, and and
I often say I can't remember who set
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it originally. Just don't think it
ink it. It's because you know,
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if you look at every dream,
I mean, just look at the computer.
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Any computer, the shittiest computer out
there that's built in the last three
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years, and that computer will blow
away anything. The shittiest computer out there,
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it's made in the last three years, will blow anything out there that
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way that was made twenty years ago, because it all started with someone thinking.
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And I think Steve Jobs have of
watching his movie, and I'm not
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going to judge him too harshly,
but I think he was a genius,
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but I think he was an asshole. And even though the way he didn't
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take care of the people who take
they took care of him, and I
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have a problem with those kind of
people. I'm not still not judging him
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on it, just my own personal
opinion. I'm not imposing on anybody.
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But Steve Jobs saw shit that no
one else saw, you know, and
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you know, it's a lot how
I've done my life, you know,
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and the people who see things that
other people don't see. And Wade,
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you were there the first day in
my wrestling career as a manager in nineteen
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eighty eight, and if I told
you, then we know eventually I'm want
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to get in a ring and I'm
gonna eventually be main eventor and I'm eventually
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gonna be the world champion. You
might have like blew the beer that was
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you were drinking out your nose or
something. You know, because when people
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say shit like that, everybody goes, Oh, you're not gonna do that.
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Everyone will tell you why you can't
do things. I've always taken the
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path bus travel from my nightclub career, my wrestling career, and DDP yoga
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is probably the best example of all. And I just segue to this for
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one moment to say, if I
was doing yoga like yoga, I'd be
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have a different demeanor. I'd have
a complete different attitude in the way I
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do what I do. I would
be creating it for the twenty plus million
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yogis out there, and I take
over a huge part of that whole community
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because of stage presence, because of
knowing how to go grit get people to
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do things that they never do.
I would be probably the biggest name,
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if not top three biggest names in
yoga. But I didn't do that.
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I took the path bus, the
path that's traveled so much so there was
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not a path I took the path
where there were nobody who would be caught
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dead doing yoga. There was no
path in the road. I got out
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a bulldozer and I started knocking down
one tree out of another, or made
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one more believer after another, the
same way I did in my wrestling career.
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And you know it's it's about setting
a goal, a resolution, if
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you will. But let's take it
a step farther. If you're actually serious
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about setting a resolution this year,
let's make it real. Let's sit down,
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type it in your computer. You
don't have to write it on a
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piece of paper. Type it in
your computer, look at your you know
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your yearly schedule, what you have
to do, what's possible, and then
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let's set a goal and a date. Because here's the things that make setting
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goals possible. I call it SmackDown
very appropriately from where we come from,
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and the smack as an acronym is
specific. That means you have to have
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a specific goal. Then you make
it measurable, which is the m a
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achievable. You have to make sure
it's achievable. You don't want to set
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that goal because you want to set
your something up to fail. So specific,
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measurable achievable. Then you have to
make the C compatible. It's got
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to be compatible to your lifestyle.
And then you got to add in K
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and the K is keep it going
specific, measurable, achievable, compatible K,
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keep it going the down, do
it, own it, write it
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down now. And that's a really
cliff notes version of how really to set
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a real resolution. That's pretty that's
pretty cool. I didn't I didn't you
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called it SmackDown. I didn't know
you would actually be able to fill in
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each of those letters. But that
actually works really well, and I do
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like that plan. I think that's
a that's the goals that I have achieved
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have followed that pattern, whether I
was conscious of it or not. So
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it's kind of interesting when you lay
it out like that. You know,
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there's some keywords in there that sometimes
just don't achieving goals don't work out because
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a couple of those letters are missing
from the execution. If that makes sense,
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well, it makes total sense.
Waight, yeah, listening, if
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you know why, God, I've
tried everything, I've tried it all unless
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use weight because weight's the easiest,
because everyone wants to lose weight, whether
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it's five pounds to put on weight
they want. They want it one way
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or the other, because no one
looks in the mirror and goes, damn,
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I look good. Damn. I
don't have to do what I said.
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I bet buff bagwell did that a
couple of times. Oh well,
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Buff, he still does. But
besides me, there's nobody I know that
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goes damn. I don't need any
work at all. So let's use weight
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as the variable to discern. You
know what we're talking about here? And
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God, give me back, is
that when you're about that cracked me up
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and took it off said about setting
the goal. Wait, he said,
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way easies, because everybody wants to
a loser gang weight. Do what everybody
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else wants, a loser game weight. You know, wait, I can't
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remember that. That's another reason why
I write ship down. That's a great
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example. Well, uh, feel
free to interrupt me if you if you
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uh, if that comes back.
Yeah, the DDP yoga, I want.
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I want to talk about that at
the beginning of the show and get
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a chance for you to plug how
people can get it and uh and and
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kind of update how it's going.
And I'm always curious to see and to
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hear from you. Where you've been
plugging it. New people who have endorsed
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it, whether you know, are
different ways that that has expanded to new
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places. I just kind of like
to get an update on how that that's
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that passionate project of yours is coming
along. And that is a really appropriate
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word you use, their passion.
You know a lot of people say,
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man, you really sell this unbelievable. It's like I ain't selling shit because
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I don't care if you do it
or not. I don't want you to
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buy it and not do it.
You know, everyone who buys it,
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I send them a you know,
it's a telegram that goes out to them
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and say, listen, here's what
you do. You go to Team t
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e a m DDP yoga dot com. You sign up there. I will
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welcome you again with the only cut
and paste email you'll get for me.
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I tell you how to set up
yourself for for success, and I give
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it all to them, and people
would be blown away. And all you
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have to do is talk to any
one of the people who are on DDP
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yoga dot com, where it says
either the people who are before it afters
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success stories or the people who are
under construction. Ask anyone at any time
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to write any of them and see
if I've talked to him. There's like
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a ninety five percent chance I've talked
to every single one of them, and
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not at the end when they made
that move to start really putting the work
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in and when I see someone doing
that. There's a guy named Mark.
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I think it's like Furnace or something
like that. I can't remember, perhaps
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my last name, but he's an
English dude who lives in Ireland. His
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wife and him both got on it. I noticed him he lost one hundred
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pounds right now. Normally I catch
it before that, but he put up
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like those four pictures you know where
he've lost one hundred pounds now He's still
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had about another seven or eighty pounds
more to go, but he put those
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pictures up, so I like to
go, see, Okay, was he
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smart enough to go on day one
and take those six pictures. I'll be
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damned he took them all. That
guy in Ireland, we've spoken numerous times.
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I can't wait to meet him,
and a whole number of men and
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women in the UK. It's crazy, man. Now, when I do
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a signing, and I do signings, I don't need to so people can
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understand the success of DDP Yoga.
I've made more money in this than I
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ever made in wrestling. I don't
care the money though. That shows how
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successful the company is, because I've
made a lot of money those last five
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years in wrestling, but it's the
company. I keep giving back. I
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keep putting back into the company.
Like I'm telling you, Wade, we'll
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talk about this when it comes out, and I will be sending you a
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subscription to it so you can see
it and you'll have it for your lifetime,
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because there's certain people who I believe, who've been behind my product and
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believe in what I'm doing and have
the same passion, and I don't want
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you to have to pay for that. You know that it's going to be
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a subscription app to change the face
of fitness on the internet. And there's
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some good stuff out there right now, but when we launch this thing,
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there will be nothing like it,
and it will take There'll always be people
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buying DVDs, and our sales on
DVDs are unbelievable. I mean. And
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here's the best part, the very
best part. Wait. I look at
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every one of them every day,
and then I have a tally at tonight,
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so I know where it's coming from. Twenty to sometimes thirty five percent
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of my sales on DDP yoga dot
com comes from friends and family. Now
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you know this because me and you
good buds a long time. Especially,
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you know you were in the embryonic
stage. Is hyrg hell yoga for regular
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guys? I mean you went to
Yowen and you know that I call people.
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I just call them, you know, I zip through a person today
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and I just picked one and boom, it was a friends and family.
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So the mom the son gets on
and I said, it is God.
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I can't remember her name. Now
I'll say Susan. And Susan gets on.
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I go, hey, Susan's DDP. She goes the DDP. I
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go d DDP. She goes,
oh my god, can I put you
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on speaker? It's my son?
Because I said, well, who told
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you about this workout? She goes, it's my son who actually told you
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about me about the workout? So
of course, and he's probably about eighteen
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year or so, and we're talking. We're having a good time and I'm
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just giving them. You know,
make sure you join team DDP Yoga.
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Make sure you know, what do
you want to I want to lose a
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little weight to want to do this
and want to do that. Take the
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six pictures. I don't give a
shit what you need them for. You
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want to know your physiology, your
flexibility, and your core strength. You
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take those pictures every month and you're
going to see yourself change and you're going
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to go wow. I didn't realize
because everybody looks themselves in the mirror all
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day long, so they really don't
see the change. That's why you take
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the pictures. So at the end
of it, and this this this mother,
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mother and uh and son. They
were just so sweet. At the
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end, she goes, you know, my my other son, he's the
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one who's the biggest. He's a
big fan of yours too, and blah
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blah blah. She goes, he's
going to be so bummed out. I
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said, give me his phone number
and I called him. That was like
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a huge pop. And the other
ones are my favorite ones are people who
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have no idea who Diamond Dallas Pager
DDP is I love that And you know,
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could we get start talking? And
he goes, They're like, wait
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a second. You create the workout
and you're actually taking the time to call
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me. I go. I can't
call everybody, you know, whether it's
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a man or woman. You know, I can't call everybody you know.
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But you know, I try to
reach out to five or ten people a
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day, thank him forgetting the program, ask them they have any questions.
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If they don't answer the phone,
I leave them in awesome I leave them
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in an awesome message. And people
go back by Facebook, you know,
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the DDP Yoga Facebook, and they
write the coolest shit ever. I always
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tell you all my interviews, and
I'll say at the end of this interview
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again, you know, you can
go to DDP yoga dot com. You
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know, we got a sale going
on right now, which is like blowing
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out big time because we're I've come
down on my prices for the new year,
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and they're down significantly, but they
ain't down that far. You know.
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It's still value though, and you
get to see it all right there.
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And if you haven't seen that Arthur, the video of Arthur Warman,
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you got to see that there.
So it's all there for them to see.
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And then there's what the site is
so and you can there's nothing that's
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not there. You want to see
what the workouts look like go to the
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workout section. They'll give you a
trailer of every f and workout that I
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have so you can see everything.
All the questions are all answered. But
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I always tell people, don't listen
to any of that. Bullet go to
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Facebook, ddp yoga. It's one
word, ddp ogo. Read what people
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write. You can't make people write. Then you know, yeah, need
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So the app you got coming out, the fitness app, it's going to
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be an alternate way to view ddpoga
and this will be available on like iPad
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and and smart TV's like what we
explain that a little bit more imentry.
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Yeah, it's we were hoping for
a new year, but I'm not releasing
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anything that people aren't going, Holy
fuck, this is so cool. I'm
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not gonna it might take me the
other six months at this rate, but
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uh it will be like people will
still yet sometimes you're streaming, Okay,
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example, me and you, we've
been around a while, but you remembered
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the record because we had records.
Even when you're in you're quite so dearly
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younger to be, but when you
were for a kid, you had records.
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Right. Oh yeah, it's a
littly okay, which means you saw
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a tracks if you saw a tracks. Well, then you saw cassettes,
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then you saw CDs, and then
you saw the iPhone or the iPod or
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whatever the hell it was. Bottom
line is the only thing that has been
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around and has made it through all
these changes is the DVD. It's probably
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lasted not as long as the records
lot lasted, but I think it's lasted
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longer than anything. But there's gonna
come a time in the next couple of
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years where there will be no more
DVDs. It's probably about two or three
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years away. So the way I
see it, everyone is gonna have a
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smartphone of some sort. If they
don't have a smart phone, they're gonna
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have a smart pad, or they're
gonna have a smart computer. They're gonna
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have something, or they'll have DVDs. But if they have thatlong that line,
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well, your phone with a Google
TV or an Apple TV will go
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boop from your phone to the TV. Now. So anything you can get
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on your phone or your IPD or
your compute, your computer, you can
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now get on your TV. How
much more information can you fit on an
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app? The world is limitless.
I'm gonna have so many cool First of
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all, it'll start there'll be forty
workouts on there, but it'll be a
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subscription. The app will be free. And this is gonna be cool because
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it's gonna give people a way to
test out DDP Yoga and see if it
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works for them. I tell you
right now, this next two or three
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weeks, we've been testing our I'm
not calling it informercial because an infomercial it's
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like, hey, look at my
apps, look at my apps, Look
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at my apps. This isn't about
hey, look at my apps. This
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DDP Yoga documercial is about, hey, look at my life. I'm owning
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it. And it's regular people as
opposed to everybody going you know, they're
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almost in shape already, and now
I'm going to get shredded. I'm talking
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about people who can't do workouts,
to people who are beat up, to
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people, you know, to high
end athletes, and it goes across the
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border with my workout. But this
is the number of people who really do
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buy the infomercials. They should be
buying DDPS documercial and we're doing pretty good
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with it. The one thing I
changed, and I don't think it's going
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to be out this week the week
after though. You know how I talk
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about dynamic resistance way right when you're
engaging your muscles and flexing your muscles,
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and you understand how it elevates your
heart rate, right yep? Okay,
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So if someone's listening and they're watching, someone just you know, put their
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thumb and index fingers together. Matter
of fact, listen. If you guys
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are at home, just do this. Wait or he knows how to do
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this. You're listening to the show. I challenge you right now, don't
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even stand up. I challenge you. All I want you to do is
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pretty much. You're all a wrestling
fans. That's our market here. So
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make the diamond cutter side like sitting
down, put your thumbs and your index
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fingers just press them against each other. Now, open your fingers, don't
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have them tight. Open your fingers. Now what I want you to do,
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and I want you to humor me
here. I want you to push
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your thumbs and your index fingers against
each other really hard. I mean really,
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just keep pushing. Notice the inside
of your forearm, your bicep,
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and your pectoral muscle keep pushing.
Are all engaged. Now, straighten your
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arms straight out in front of you. Keep pushing your thumb and index fingers
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together. But now I want you
to pull your pinky away from your thumb.
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So push your thumb and index fingers, but pull your pinky away from
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your thumb. Now, when you
do that, outside of your whole hand
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will engage the outside of your form. Your tricep, Your tricep, and
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your deltoid have to engage. Now, don't just lift your fingers. Don't
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lit your hands up to the sky. What I want you to do while
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pushing your thumbs in, index fingers
together, pull your piggies away, come
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back and raise up into a diamond
cutter, creating your own resistance, as
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if you're moving through clay. Now
bring your arms out to the sign of
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a cross or a T. Now
clinch your fist really tight and pull those
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fists together, those biceps together.
In other words, holk it up,
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brother, Come on and hold it
in tight, tight tight. Now,
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open your fingers wide, throw your
shoulders back that shug shoulders backest out at
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ease. Now, anyone who's listening, just feel your forehead. You'll feel
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your heart rate going up. So
what happens? Why did that happen?
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You're sitting down, How can your
heart rate be going up? Sitting down
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because it doesn't matter what you're doing. When you flex or engage a muscle,
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your heart must beat faster to get
the blood to that muscle. And
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just like when you're laying down,
your heart rates the lowest, sit up,
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your heart rate goes up. Stand
up, your heart rate will go
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up. Walk it will go up. Job, run sprint up, up
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up, same thing except for my
DDP. Yoga is with minimal joint impact,
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and here there was nothing because you're
sitting down. So here's what I
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did that was really, really really
cool. We're still in the editing base
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with it right now. Now.
We do everything, We film everything.
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We're a production studio. That's what
we do now, all from all our
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videos to everything. So what we
did is I took four people and I
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put heart monitors on them, and
behind me is a TV and we've created
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an app. So the heart rate
goes to the TV. So you're wearing
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it on your chest, but we're
picking it up on the TV. So
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now you can see Britney's heart rate
is eighty, maybe Kyle's is ninety one,
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Brenda's is eighty four's Jason's is seventy
eight. All I have them do
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and you watch it right there.
It's live, there's no trick photography.
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You stand there. I get them
to bend their knees. I give them
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the flexter quads, flexter glutes,
do the same thing I did with the
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hands and the diamond cutter and the
hulk it up and all that, and
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their heart rates in less than a
minute while I'm talking, jump anywhere from
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twenty to fifty beats while I'm right
there. So now that's it, And
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I hope people hit pause on their
DVR and back that up and go forward
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and go back and go forward,
and they're going to say that DDP Yoga
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is a kick ass cardiovascular workout that
literally will dramatically increase your flexibility and strengthen
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your core like never before with minimal
joint impact. Unlike P ninety X,
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Unlike insanity, oh my god,
unlike crosspit all those workouts beat the f
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out of your body. My workout
heals your body, strengthen your body,
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like in your body. So that's
the kind of shit I'm doing now,
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and we are our workout. Our
new app when it finally comes out,
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will attach your heart rate into the
app. So you're gonna put like I
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have a guy right now who's you
know, full diabetic, full blown diabet
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because cholesterol cholesterol numbers are off the
hook. If you could create like this
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guy should be dead. That's that's
the step he's away from. But we've
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we've got all of this and we're
locking him completely into the system. So
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as he does his workouts, which
all come up as he how much fat
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he burns, how many calories he
burns off just with the workouts, what
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he's eating over that period of the
next six months to a year, Like
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Scott Hall came off eleven different medications. You know, if you if people
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are you know, if people say, oh, you know, I saw
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I put one up on DDP Yoga
Facebook about two months ago it said eating
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healthy is expensive on the one side. On the other side, it said,
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have you seen the cost of cancer, heart disease, diabetes lately?
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Yeah, I'm with you that.
I'm with you on that. I want
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to remind people that our guest is
former ww World Champion, taking Champion and
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many other championships, Diamond Dallas Page
And here's our guest today and we are
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live right now Friday December twenty seven, twenty thirteen, just about six o'clock
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Eastern and we are taking your phone
calls. Do you want to talk to
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DVP about DDP Yoga, especially if
you are an existing customer or have questions
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about the products. We certainly welcome
those calls every time he's on. Also
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ww memories or questions about ddp's career. I can talk about Scott Hall and
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Jake the Snake, Roberts, anything
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seven ninety two eight. Do you
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and receive even more benefits through Patreon. Back to dp DDP. Do you
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want if we take a couple of
book calls before you do. Let me
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put that over that audible audible book. I got the and if anybody wants
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any kind of setting goals that the
King, the Master, the gorgeous George,
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if you will, before Hulkogan,
before the Rock, before before everybody,
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was a guy named Napoleon Hill.
And Napoleon Hill wrote a book called
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Think and Grow Rich. He shadowed
Andrew Carnegie for twenty years. Andrew Carnegie,
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you know, would be top three
men wealth in the world for like
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forty years he was. He was
the guy. And this guy Napoleon Hill
459
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got to hang around from everyone from
Einstein to you know, to bring into
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JP Morgan, I mean. And
they talk about those times in a new
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version of the audio book for for
Napoleon Hill Think and Grow Rich. They
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also bring in today like he'll be
a thing on Steve Jobs, or they'll
463
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be there'll be something on somebody that's
relevant to you today. But I'm telling
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you the greatest most inspiring book ever
I and I do it on an audio
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book. I think it's awesome.
I pop it in. I don't.
466
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I can walk and do stuff or
be running through airport and still be listening
467
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and thinking and growing and the whole
deal, and I totally I do want
468
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to ask you too, did Hulk
Austin mit did Did they do their own
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audiobook or did they have someone read
theirs? You know what, I initially
470
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.760
looked up the wrestling books. I
think most of them were read by somebody
471
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else, but there were some cases
where the wrestler did read them. But
472
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I don't have it marked down on
my note which was which, but it
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does. When you go to audible
trial dot com slash progressing Torch, can
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you enter pro wrestling or the key
or the wrestler's name, it will say
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in the description. If they did, I would be surprised Mick didn't do
476
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it, because he's awesome. I
bet Mick did. In fact, I'm,
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you know, quite sure that his
book, his novel Taton Brown,
478
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is available and if I remember it, I think he did. Uh did
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read that aloud? So that that
that certainly would be fun to hear the
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day. Let me ask you before
we go on, did you have you
481
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ever seen Mick live on stage?
No? I haven't. Bruce Mitchell,
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00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.920
Torch columnist, did about a month
ago, and we did a significant length
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audio update the next day where Bruce
talked about that on the VP Bruce Mitchell
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Audio Show, and Bruce was a
big fan of the performance. And I
485
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am scheduled to see him, I
think in February, so I'll have a
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chance to see him live. You
you, you won't. You will not
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be disappointed anyone out there, if
you you are near, you're three hundred
488
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miles from a Foley show. And
bring someone who's not a wrestling fath because
489
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they're gonna love it too. Because
this is the way Mick does his delivery
490
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and everything, and he doesn't do
it every night, but many of the
491
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:20.159
nights he has different guests dress up
as me for the cookie story. And
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the way Leak does it is piss
your pants funny. It will never the
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book, never can never do the
book. How he rewrote it in his
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book and I wrote it in my
book as funny as that was. Yeah,
495
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.679
it can't. It can't do McK
foley live on stage and whoever he
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00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:45.119
brings in to do it pretty funny. Well, yeah, and Napoleon's boosted
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you said, ddpr are available on
audible dot com, So that comes with
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your highest recommendation, Napoleon Hill.
You can look that up in at audibletrial
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dot com. Splash browsing torch and
and check it out. That's awesome,
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excellent. I'm glad you mentioned that
we always appreciate. In fact, we're
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encouraging readers. I should say LISTENERSCI
to uh, listeners to call the show
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if you do, take advantage of
the audible trial and let us know what
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book you got and if you've enjoyed
in and recommend it and have a little,
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00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.480
you know, a little bit of
a book club here among pro wrestling
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fans, even if it's a non
pro wrestling book. Uh. Let's let's
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go in and grab a couple of
phone calls here and if you do want
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to get in line on the phone
banks, the number is six four six
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seven to one nine eight eight.
Diamon Dallas Page is my guest today.
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Let's go to our first call eery
code eight one six. Thanks so much
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for hoving. Please state your name
and where you're from. Travis from Kansas
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City. Hey, Travis, welcome
to the show. What have you got
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for GDP? First of all,
I wanted to tell you guys of it
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with my birthday to nightti Iman birthday. Definitely, thank you appreciate it.
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Not My question is if you're in
like a wheelchair of the Fiscal Booted Woman
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League. Can DVP be modified?
You know Arthur the disabled veteran, which
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I'm sure you saw the video,
he's been working on that. And this
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other woman, Terry who you know, she's a nurse, they've been working
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on that as well. I wouldn't. I would not go on to say
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that it could right now because I
don't know how to teach it, you
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know, I don't. I know
when I work with people, like when
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I work with Scott Hole in the
beginning and Jake both I used, I
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00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:34.000
used chairs for them to balance themselves. But there are so many things like
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00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.559
Terry and Arthur were showing it.
I'm saying, I'm not in a position
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where I'm I don't know enough about
it. Maybe you got to stop the
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00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.960
bags please. I don't know enough
about how to teach that. But I
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think as time goes on, we
will definitely adapt because the dynamic resistance can
527
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be done anywhere. And I think
we have to really get on the mat
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with some people who are in wheelchair
uh to really know and uh, it
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depends on if you're if you're uh, you know, uh. I came
530
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into the words it's not paralyzed paraplegic. I think with what we're doing,
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you know, as far as the
lower body, you have to have some
532
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sort of standing ability. But I
think in the chair, maybe there are
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things we can do. I just
think they're limited right now. I don't
534
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know enough about that. My friend, Okay, well does it become is
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00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:37.960
it become a lot of Bible the
updates beyond DVP yoga dot com. Pretty
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00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.119
much everything everything we're doing goes up
on our Facebook, anything that's going new
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00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.400
there. But you got to tell
you what if you want to go buy
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a team DDP yoga dot com,
anybody can join that and uh, We've
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got a lot of people come through
there and have been helped. We got
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a lot of people in muscular district
MS. Uh. You know, we
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got a lot of people that are
you know, uh five fibermyalgia. And
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then they get together in groups because
you know, you know, then they
543
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then they can help each other.
And that's why I developed that site,
544
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is for people to help each other. You know, I step in and
545
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try to motivate as much as I
can or inspire people. But you know,
546
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the people who come to that site
are looking for inspiration. Normally become
547
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:22.679
the most inspiring people on the site. Okay, thank you very much,
548
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.480
very appreciate it from me. Gun
absolutely all right, let's go to our
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next call, Eric code Stix,
so Die and six on nine. I
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please state your name and where you're
from. Oh it's the Lewis from New
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00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.559
Jersey. Hey Lewis, thanks to
Colin. What do you got for DDP
552
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.800
today? Well, we're going on
DDP big fan of yours and I know
553
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:46.159
you're from Jersey too, But I
got about three things, so I guess
554
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i'll ask and if you want to
write them down way just to remember,
555
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:57.960
yep, absolutely, yeah, okay, first thing we got in I'm inking
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it. Yeah, God, the
first thing. The first thing I got
557
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for you DP is that who were
the main catalysts behind your push in WCW
558
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.800
and when you finally did get your
push where you looked at by the guys
559
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.519
like, for example, the guys
that formed the radicals group in WWE.
560
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.320
Where you looked at as part of
the quote unquote in crowd as in did
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00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.880
you have heat as in like look
at getting you know, like you were
562
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:29.880
monopolizing it, or did you get
looked at as the guy that finally they
563
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gave one push when they weren't given
pushes to anybody. Number two hopefully you
564
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got that way, yep. Number
two was with the invasion angle in WWE.
565
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What were you happy with your initial
role, you know, being the
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stalker of the Undertaker and whatnot?
And where? How would you have done
567
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it different? What would you have
kept the same? And last or not
568
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.320
least? This is just like a
quick little throwaway question, but I have
569
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.760
to I mean, I could have
just googled this, but I have to
570
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ask. I mean I was a
big Kurt Cobain fan, so was your
571
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Did you you intentionally want the song
your theme song to be you know,
572
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:15.000
Kurt Cobain to be the smells like
teen Spirit song? Did you want it
573
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to be that? And who picked
it for you? Was it your fist?
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And that's pretty much it right now? Sorry, million questions, No
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one question's good range Hey, well
let me waitne let me answer the last
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one first, because that's the easiest
one. Of course, I knew that
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that song was in Song of the
nineties. And you got to remember how
578
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:39.400
where I was. I started as
a manager, I became a wrestler in
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ninety ninety one. I guess it
was. I tore my rotator cuff and
580
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.840
they let me go. I was
out of wrestling. You know, besides
581
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:54.320
doing independence for eleven months, I
changed the tattoos in my arms. If
582
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.360
you go back to nineteen ninety three, I challenge you to find anybody with
583
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really big tattoos, they didn't exist. Just like today, I can't look
584
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at a brother on a football playing
basketball or on a football team and not
585
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:15.599
think of Booker T. Before Booker
T had those dreads, no one had
586
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them. Nobody Booker like he influenced
God unbelievably. But you know, I
587
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:27.800
was recreating myself and I went from
the tats. I put on thirty pounds
588
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twenty five pounds. I went down
and met with Jimmy Hart, who Jimmy
589
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.000
Hart is actually as a number one
hit. You know, it ain't easy
590
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:42.360
yet the number one hit, but
with this band of gentries in the sixties,
591
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.880
he had a number one hit.
So Jimmy knows his music. And
592
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I told him the song that I
wanted, and they said, is it
593
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possible for us to make it sound
like it without them suing us? And
594
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.840
Jimmy's like, sure, alls we
have to do is reverse the beat and
595
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:07.320
in that lick that all that revisions, that beat is reversed, and then
596
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.920
I put on a self high five
and too cool, and ye know I
597
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.360
was just as cocky a heel as
I could be. And you know,
598
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:21.519
I never really got that character over
over those years because Page Joseph Froukenberg was
599
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:25.079
trying so hard to become this bigger
than life wrestling persona. You know that
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00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.480
what I thought a wrestler, you
know, or this wrestler was with all
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00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.239
the crazy gimmicks. I was just
reaching in anything and throwing paint up against
602
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the wall, and sometimes it looked
like a mess, you know, But
603
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.599
as time went on, I figured
it out. But that self high five,
604
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that was a winner. That was
a winner, and that music was
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00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.360
a winner, and it propelled me
through the nineties when it was finally you
606
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.159
know, it came. It was. It was a great, great,
607
00:45:55.239 --> 00:46:00.360
great ring music. I think I
can remember the first first one. I
608
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.000
don't remember the second one. Wait, I think the first one was who
609
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.039
helped me? What would my push? And I said? And then was
610
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:15.119
it accepted in the locker room?
I created my push from A to Z.
611
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.760
Nobody believed in me, nobody believed
that diamond Dallas page would ever be
612
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:29.920
anything but the most a semi mid
card performer. So when I met with
613
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.360
Johnny Ace, Johnny Lauren, iis
down. I'll lose it. What do
614
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.519
we got going here? Something about
our phone? We are reconnecting you now.
615
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.920
In twenty twelve, NXT transitioned into
the developmental system and ultimately the brand
616
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:52.360
you see today. On the Torch
VIP podcast NXT Eight Years Back, we'll
617
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:58.480
be taking a weekly look at this
page in NXT's early history. Joined Kelly
618
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.239
Wells and me Tom Stout from PWT
Talks NXT every Saturday as we go eight
619
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.079
years back to the day to track
NXT's rising talents and why they did or
620
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:15.719
didn't work out exclusively for PW Torch
VIP members. All right, we're back
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00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:22.960
after a brief connection there but DDP, you were talking about your theme music
622
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.519
and I think did you get to
the end of your end of your story
623
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:28.639
there? I wasn't the NFC music
and let me go back to dance this
624
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.320
beginning part again. Absolutely said who
helped you? Yeah, And in the
625
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.400
beginning of my career, and I'm
talking there was guys who helped me who
626
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.840
had nothing to do with what was
happening at WCW. I have to say
627
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.119
Jody Hamilton, the Assassin, he
told me I was going to be a
628
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.079
top guy if I kept doing what
I was doing, because he saw me
629
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.679
in my early days at the power
plant, and I stayed the power plant
630
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:59.039
for five years, so he saw
what was going on with me. Jake
631
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.679
Roberts told me I was going to
be a top guy. That's from ninety
632
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.280
three when I hadn't gone back to
WCW yet. Hulk Hogan in ninety four
633
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.519
would tell me, I'm going to
be a top guy if I keep doing
634
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:15.800
what I'm doing. And Dusty Rhodes
had told me around that same time.
635
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:20.280
So when you got four, you
probably don't know who Jody Hamilton was.
636
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.599
When he was a master, he
was the assassin number one. He drew
637
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:28.400
money on top for twenty five years. Everybody knows what Jake and Dusty and
638
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:35.000
Hogan has done. So what happened
was when I came back, everybody thought
639
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719
I was a joke. They never
thought I was going to be anything,
640
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.800
and that made me work five to
ten times harder. Now, Eric Bischoff
641
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:47.559
was my friend, and what Eric
Bischoff did for me was he protected me
642
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:54.199
in scenarios when guys tried to me
and in our business, it's like Rome,
643
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.679
you know, it's like Rome would
muscle. Nobody's actually stabbing you in
644
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.920
the back with a knife. But
you get stabbed in the back of knives
645
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.119
all the time. And you got
to know how to be political. And
646
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.800
you know, some guys are really
great at that. I think I'm pretty
647
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.199
good at that when it comes to
avoiding trouble for the most part. But
648
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.039
I'm not let any I'm not gonna
let anybody say to me he said,
649
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.519
she said bullshit. I would go
get those people and get in the room
650
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:29.280
with them and say, from what
this person says, you said this about
651
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.840
me, and you said I said
that about him, just like that,
652
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:39.079
And I could name time after time
after time, and because that was the
653
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.559
one, that's one thing like maybe
I would have been fired for doing that
654
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.079
if I wasn't friends with Bishop,
probably a good chance I would have been.
655
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.800
But nobody was going to meet to
my face. You want to be
656
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:52.880
behind my back. I don't know
it. Well, I don't know it,
657
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.000
but if I find out about it, you can bet your ask.
658
00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.760
I'm going to come up and to
confront you and not like, Hey,
659
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.920
moll, I'm just going to go
because I don't know that the world if
660
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.039
he said, she said, I
don't know exactly what happened because there's my
661
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.079
story, there's your story, and
then there's a story what really happened.
662
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.599
So that's how I view everything.
But I want to get to the bottom
663
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.880
of it to find out. So
when it came to the push and how
664
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.239
the push was go, if I
was to talk to Wade Keller about how
665
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.599
I was being held down and how
I worked around it, I could do
666
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.599
a fifteen hour show just on that, and I could get in that one
667
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:35.920
detail after another, and most of
them you know the thing and you know
668
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:39.480
what happened, but you don't know
how it happened and how it got there.
669
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:44.519
Well, and the one thing that
was the biggest part of Diamond Dall's
670
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:50.599
page ever becoming past the mid card
performer was a Diamond cutter. It started
671
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.440
with Johnny Ace been one of my
best friends since eighty eight. Johnny Lorenidis
672
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:59.639
stayed in my house one night.
He was leaving for Japan. The next
673
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.760
night, said why don't we go
to the power plant. I got this
674
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.360
new finish I want to show you, Johnny would grab his opponent with one
675
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.440
hand like Steve Austin would. He
would make the peace sign with the other
676
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:15.039
hand, and then he would kick
out and do the ace crusher, which
677
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.039
was I was going to use as
a diamond cutter. How I changed that
678
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.679
is I took my left hand and
wrapped it with my right in a move
679
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.559
that Stephen Riegal taught me called the
cravat. I put that cravat on you.
680
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:34.639
Unless you're the big show, you're
not going anywhere. And that was
681
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:39.679
a shoot hold and then a lah
Jake Roberts. At some point I started
682
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:45.280
to figure out, take the move
out of nowhere. Now when I'm supposed
683
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.519
to be getting my push, And
I'm going to tell you one of those
684
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.719
behind the scenes stories. Now when
I'm supposed to be getting my push we
685
00:51:53.920 --> 00:52:02.480
were? When was when was the
Dwade You might remember this. When was
686
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.920
Slamburree where I won the Battle Bowl. Do you remember what year that was?
687
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:13.800
That ninety five or ninety six?
I don't know right off, but
688
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:19.280
I think I think it was ninety
six. I think it was ninety six
689
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.639
to two. Yeah, Yeah,
the more I think about it, just
690
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:28.920
based on Nitel's timeline and everything.
Okay, so whoever wins the and they
691
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.239
did it before King of the Ring. This King of the Ring because they
692
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.960
were doing battle Bowl. The first
one to win that was Dusty Rhodes.
693
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:42.119
Uh it before, but of course
WWE they trademarked that. Yeah, so
694
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.800
it was never done again after this, and after this they couldn't even call
695
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.880
it battle Bowl because it was too
close to Kick of the Ring and what
696
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:53.719
the deal was supposed to be.
I'm being told this over the time the
697
00:52:53.760 --> 00:53:00.199
Olympics were going on in Florida,
and I'm being told and I almost I'm
698
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.800
gonna say, is the booker because
the bookers at times I fucking I hate
699
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:07.480
them so much I want to strangle
them all, and other times I love
700
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.599
them. And today I've let all
this shit go. I'm I'll never let
701
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.000
the feelings go. But I hold
no feelings against anyone who had the book,
702
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.199
whoever did at the time. And
I'm in my almost sixties now,
703
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:22.239
I love the stories, but I
do still live the adversity with passion when
704
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.360
I tell the stories. So this
is that we're clear on that. And
705
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:31.679
I love those guys now. But
at the time I was told that at
706
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.480
the end of that match, and
we're two months out before Slammerrie. It's
707
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:43.719
going to be me, Savage and
Flare and I'm going to get thrown over
708
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:47.320
the top rope. You're going to
skim the floor. This is way before
709
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:51.039
we knew Austin was going to skim
the floor and King of the Ring too,
710
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.280
and we were running neck and neck
ups around there. Skim the floor,
711
00:53:54.800 --> 00:54:04.079
pull myself up on the apron,
slide myself in, and Flair was
712
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.000
going to go to Figure four match
March. When he went to make the
713
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:07.960
turn, was gonna kick him in
the ass. He's going to take a
714
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.199
bump over the top rope. Savage
was going to get his hand raised.
715
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.840
I was going to slide in,
hit him with a diamond cutter and win
716
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:21.559
battle Ball. That's how it was
supposed to go. Now when it gets
717
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.599
to three weeks out, oh no, brother, we can't. We can't
718
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:30.440
do that because you know Flare's gonna
angle with with Savage. Well, Rick
719
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.679
was in that in an angle with
that for absolutely everyone from sting dog into
720
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.559
to the butler. I don't know. It wasn't angle with everybody so yo,
721
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.239
But that's why it was told to
be originally we couldn't do it.
722
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.599
So I was like, no problem, this is going to be an opportunity
723
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:47.599
to really do something. You know, Well, who's going to be in
724
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:52.559
it? Well, we don't know
right now. So now let's fast forward
725
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:58.199
to the night before the pay per
view and I'm sitting outside having a beer
726
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:04.840
with Canyon at my in my backyard
and he says, so date, who's
727
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.400
going to be into battle Ball?
Who's going to be the top eight?
728
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:08.960
And for those of you who don't
know what battle Ball was, it was
729
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:17.119
tag teams all set up to have
four tag team winners, and then those
730
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:22.840
four tag team winners or should say
eight because it's tag team, those eight
731
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:29.519
guys would all compete to see who's
the battle Bowl Champion get the battle bull
732
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.599
ring, and then that person would
have his shot at the next pay per
733
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:38.000
view at the heavyweight champion in the
world. Invite you to email the show
734
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:43.760
with feedback or questions or comments.
That email address is Wade Keller Podcast at
735
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.760
ptew torch dot com. That's Wadekeller
Podcast at PW torch dot com. Also
736
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:52.679
welcome your feedback on Twitter. You
can follow us on Twitter at PW torch
737
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.679
and follow me at the wade Keller. That's at PW Torch and at the
738
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:07.079
Wade Keller. So Canon said,
who's going to be there? Who are
739
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.400
the top to eight guys? I
go, I don't know. He goes,
740
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.079
well, who's the top for four
guys? I said, I don't
741
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.400
know. He goes, all right, Well, screw it. Let's come
742
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:21.119
up with a finish without them.
And out of that came the diamond cutters
743
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.559
finish that what we did and what
happened was and this is going to be
744
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.599
confusing, so get out your pen
and piece of paper if you really give
745
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.599
a shit, or go back and
look at it. Let's just say there's
746
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:38.360
five entities. I'm number one,
number two, and number three would be
747
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.400
explain it. I can't explain to
the bottom of everybody's going to get diamond
748
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.519
cut at the end, and I'll
explain how it all goes as we move
749
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:50.360
forward when you know who the players
are. So we've got this figure out
750
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.480
where I want to hit three people
with diamond cutters, and the third guy
751
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.639
I hit, I cover him one
two three, the second guy cover one
752
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:01.199
two three, the first guy I
it, he kicks out. We go
753
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:06.159
through a series of finishes and then
he ends up, you know, coming
754
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:07.280
at me, and I ducked him
and throw him over the top rope and
755
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:13.079
I went So that's basically the idea, but it also gets the Diamond Cutter
756
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:17.440
over too as well. So now
I got the finish at least I got
757
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:24.400
an idea of the finish in my
head. And I go to the main
758
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:29.039
booker. I go, so,
bro, what are we doing? I
759
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.400
know, I got two other matches
before this. You know who's who are
760
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:35.840
going to be the top four guys? I don't know yet. Well,
761
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:37.360
and then I start going down the
list. You know it is Luger going
762
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.760
to be there? Is you know
s thing going to be there? Is
763
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.400
this one? Is that one?
Is the World Warriors? Are they going
764
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.800
to be there? You know who's
going to be you know? Then later
765
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:51.079
on is Ben going to be in
there? Is Eddie going to be in
766
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.480
there? Garrera? I mean,
I'm just like naming names at this point.
767
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.360
Still no, No, I don't
know, I don't I don't know.
768
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.199
Finally it's now I've got We're I'm
ready to start to pay per view.
769
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:05.840
I don't know who the top four
guys are, so I can't even
770
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.920
latest finish out in my head,
you know, just to figure out because
771
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:14.920
now you're talking about being really political. Here's how I'm going to beat you,
772
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.880
you know. But that's not how
it's supposed to happen. The agent
773
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.320
is supposed to come in and go, okay, guys, tonight's DDPS night.
774
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.440
I'll get to that in a second, because just so you know how
775
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:30.039
this was handled. So I know, I've got my first match set up,
776
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.320
we don't know who our second match
is with, and I'm tagging with
777
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:39.679
Barbarian that's my partner, and so
we get you know, I finally grabbed
778
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:45.079
the booker and I go, listen, bro, how about this finish?
779
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.519
And I give it to him with
numbers, not even people's names, and
780
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.079
he goes, oh, oh yeah, yeah, that's a great finish.
781
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:53.400
Okay, yeah, we'll do that. We'll do that. I go,
782
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.840
okay, okay, So least I
can get that cro off my mind because
783
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.679
I got two other matches and two
other finishes with false finishes and all the
784
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:07.599
other between it. So it's a
busy day. So I get to where
785
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.199
we're just getting ready for the TV, maybe about forty five minutes half hour
786
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.800
out, and I get pulled into
the booking room where the agents are,
787
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.320
and they're going to give you the
finish and tell you what you want to
788
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.119
do. Now, they always ask
me, you know, what do I
789
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.880
want to do for the finish,
and lately I hadn't been asking them because
790
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:34.719
when I would tell them, they
would turn it around and me with it.
791
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:37.920
Oh yeah, that's what Diamond wants
to do. There like instead of
792
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:39.280
no, no, no, you
asked me the question. Don't ask me
793
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.679
what I want to do and then
tell me you're going to go and tell
794
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.280
them. So now I'm not going
to tell you. I'm not going to
795
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:47.320
tell you what so you can put
me between a rock and a hard place.
796
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:53.039
So and believe this is nineteen ninety
six. There's one thing getting over
797
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:58.679
right now, the Diamond cutter.
Because I ain't wrestling nobody, and I
798
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.800
ain't had any kind of shit.
If anything, this is going to be
799
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:09.199
semi it. So let's see.
So the agent says to me, what
800
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.480
would you like to do? I
said, okay, what do you think
801
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:19.440
about this? And I gave him
that finish and that finish was to get
802
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:25.599
DVP over finish and he went,
well, uh, well, let me
803
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:31.119
talk to the booker and I know
I just seen him, but now he's
804
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.360
going to go talk to him,
and that means that this finish could be
805
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:38.039
changing. But right there, the
booker walked in and I grabbed him and
806
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.440
went, hey, bro, I
go, I just told him about the
807
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.119
double finish, triple Diamond cutter,
blah blah blah. He kicks out.
808
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.840
We go into the dose doughty and
he goes over to the top rope.
809
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:54.119
I go, is that cool?
And they both look at each other and
810
01:00:54.159 --> 01:01:00.280
he goes, joah yah. He
walks out the door. Now this is
811
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:07.800
what's supposed to happen. That agent
grabs all eight guys and he says,
812
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.199
okay, guys, this is how
it's gonna go. Everybody knows Diamond is
813
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:15.360
going over tonight. You guys,
get your shit in, but you get
814
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:22.800
him over. This is his night
now being an outsider but still being an
815
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.880
insider. Wait, would I be
wrong about saying that at all? I
816
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.480
don't think though, No, no, because that's how it's done. He
817
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:37.119
says, I've been the other guy. Get Steamboat over, Get get whoever
818
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.119
Tom Brady over, get some will
get you DDP, get him over,
819
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.880
get your shit in, but you
get him over. So that's what I
820
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:52.400
know is supposed to happen next.
And after the booker walked out the door,
821
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:57.079
the agent looked at me and he
said, well, he goes,
822
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.079
you know to finish better than I
do. You're gonna tell the boy.
823
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.320
So now I get to go tell
all the guys how I'm going to beat
824
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.039
them. There's no heat that comes
with that, is there? Right?
825
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:14.719
Well, they're just so happens that
out of those eight guys, four of
826
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:22.639
them I got jobs for like I
got them their job and actually say thirty
827
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:30.400
four guys who lived the dream.
I personally got them their jobs because I
828
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:35.119
fucking would help anybody I kid could
who had the passion and the talent.
829
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.840
So those three guys, for the
three were in the top. They were
830
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:45.079
no problem at all. And it
ends with here's how the finish is going
831
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.079
to go. I slide in and
Johnny gruns he is taking a nutshot there
832
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.280
he's laying up in the ropes.
I pull myself in. As soon as
833
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.280
he goes to pull himself up,
boom, I hit him with a diamond
834
01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:00.440
cutter, Barbarian and ice train.
Remember ice train, Yeah, they double
835
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.559
closed line. I believe it's something
like this, I could be wrong to
836
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:06.840
the exact this how I remember it
my head. So if you got the
837
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.519
video on, maybe it's not exactly
like this, but it's pretty close.
838
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:15.039
They closed line Bobby over. Bobby's
gone. Probably one of the greatest guys
839
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.280
ever in our business. By the
way, Bobby Eaton and yeah, the
840
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:22.280
double heels, they both raise each
other's arms, and then the one heel
841
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.679
turns and closes the lines to the
other heel. Right. Yeah, as
842
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:30.679
he's getting ready to do that,
I grab train and close line him two
843
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.119
down. I mean I I diamond
cut him two down. Then Bob goes
844
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.400
to do sutting me and I duck
it and I take him down with Donald
845
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:43.320
cutter. I cover Johnny one two
three, he's out. Oh, by
846
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:46.599
the way, Dusty Rhodes, I
have to digress here. Dusty Rhodes is
847
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:52.360
doing color right now, and Dusty's
my guy. Okay. If Dusty was
848
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.159
booking, i'd have had a crazy
push way longer, and then people really
849
01:03:55.199 --> 01:04:00.119
could have bitched about my push because
he'dn't giving me a hell of a push.
850
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:04.519
I was ready. Long story short. Before I go out there,
851
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:10.320
say to Jody Hamilton, who's in
the Gorilla spot, I said, Joey,
852
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.920
I just listened to announce the matches
and who's coming out, but they
853
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:24.000
didn't say anything about pinfall, submission
or over the top rope. That's this
854
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:28.519
match. This is the match before
the main event. This sets up next
855
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.440
month's man event. That's what's up. There's supposed to be a lot of
856
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:35.679
stant there's not just over the top
rope. It's all three so that man
857
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:45.440
that changes everything. So Dusty's only
nose over the top rope. So when
858
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:51.880
I hit when I hit grunge with
the with the cutter, I hit the
859
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.280
trade with the cutter that I hit, Barb, Dusty's freaking out. Oh
860
01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.800
my god, the greatest, the
greatest fas of all time. Oh my
861
01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:01.159
god, how're they going to get
him over the top rope though they're a
862
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.360
dead weight, How're they going to
get him over the top rope? I
863
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.000
slid on top of him. One
two three, he goes, that's how
864
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:11.239
one two three out, and then
dust he just picked up like he knew
865
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.079
but he knew nothing. He just
flipped the script and went with what was
866
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.400
happening. Then I covered frigging train
one two three, Barb, of course
867
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.719
he kicked out we went through a
series. I said, now I'm telling
868
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:26.000
him this in the back, that's
how we're going to do it. And
869
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.119
I look at bar but I go, then you kick out barb and then
870
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.400
we go through a succession that falls
finishes, and then you go throw me
871
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:36.679
in a turnbuckle. I shoots around
and you go over the top rope and
872
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:43.480
he just looks at me. Now, for anybody listening, notably the two
873
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.760
everybody you've heard about bad you know, the special wrestling, who they are
874
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:53.519
blah blah blah. Number one and
number two would be Ming and Barbarian.
875
01:05:54.239 --> 01:06:00.239
Yes, like everyone else, Okay, to top tops of the bit is,
876
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:03.480
but ringing Barbarian like they were on
their own planet. That's kind of
877
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:09.119
respect from the boys they had.
So I'm telling Barr but I think it
878
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.719
is my friend. But you know, you don't know, especially in this
879
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:16.960
scenario, you don't know. I
felt I really did. But I'm looking
880
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:23.280
at him and I tell him it
and he ain't saying nothing, and we're
881
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:30.400
face to face and then he says, no, Brad, and I'm like
882
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.800
my stomach just went like oh.
And then he says, I take your
883
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:39.599
finish. I go, bar if
you don't have to do that, bro,
884
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.079
you already took it. You kicked
out. Man, go over to
885
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.679
top, he goes, No,
Brad, he goes, it's your time.
886
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:50.880
I take your finish. And I'm
not afraid to say I had little
887
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:56.119
tear came out my eye. He
gave me a big hug, Man.
888
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.280
That was That was a moment for
me. That was a pivotal moment,
889
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:03.599
Mike, in my life and in
my career because I've always treated barb like
890
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:10.159
aces, always had, always will. He always treated my ex wife like
891
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.400
that too, So I mean,
it was just a relationship that me and
892
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:17.159
him had that I never really didn't
you don't know, you know, but
893
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:23.400
to go out there and then to
do that. Now you heard the top
894
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.320
four guys. I was trained Barbarian
Bobby Eaton at the end of his prime.
895
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.440
Bobby only wrestled in the year or
two after that, I think,
896
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:34.719
and Johnny grunge Roco had just gotten
knocked out before that. Who do you
897
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:41.000
think was in that top eight when
Dusty Rose won that Bowl? Do you
898
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:45.000
think anybody was under like top top, top, top top guy, no
899
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.960
or sting when he wanted when he
wanted. Do you think there was anybody
900
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:54.920
in there that wasn't Rick Flair,
Lex Luga Road Wars. Think there was
901
01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:00.119
anybody in there won that caliber?
Right, So look that called let's give
902
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:04.960
him a push. Oh yeah,
let's even let him win. Yep.
903
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:15.720
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904
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.960
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905
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:26.000
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Okay, so this is what I'm talking
910
01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:59.520
about when you talk when people say, so the push you got, Yeah,
911
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.880
give us an example. I've got
so many. I could wait seriously
912
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.560
until fifteen hours and then we start
to you know, really get into it.
913
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:11.039
Yeah. I mean into arguments that
I would have in the booking meeting
914
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:15.920
sometimes, and I mean like getting
loud, loud on the edge of seats
915
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.640
and times. Yeah, because I
ain't afraid of nobody kick my hand.
916
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.479
I'll you fuck yo. I ain't
gonna not stand up. Fuck that.
917
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:28.840
Not when I worked this hard and
you go into my face, I'll call
918
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:33.560
you want it and I d if. I'll jump in and say two that
919
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.880
if people enjoy this story, because
that's great detail, and I think your
920
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.479
members are pretty accurate in terms of
even the stuff you weren't sure on,
921
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:46.239
at least as it matches up to
mind. Fourteen installments of Marathon torchtok we
922
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.399
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01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:55.039
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many subjects that we covered when we
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is a fascinating story and behind the
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the way through your peak run in
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957
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.000
this interview with DP, be sure
to check that out. I wanted to
958
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.840
sneak that in DDP because I know
there's a lot of a lot of stories
959
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.800
you told like that in that torch
Stalk, and I know you're proud of
960
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:26.359
that interview, you know, and
and I'll tell people out there back in
961
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.640
the eighties, you know, when
I came into this, there was two
962
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:41.000
guys, Dave Meltzer Wade Keller.
Those were the two guys that really knew
963
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:46.880
the guys and and got Sometimes I'd
say, do you know that way like
964
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:50.600
I don't know it. I was
in the meeting. How does he know?
965
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.359
And you know, and it would
be right there was there was things
966
01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:58.760
like everybody would like, oh,
I don't ever read the sheets. Everybody
967
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:05.399
read the torch. Everybody there around
there were somebody's bag. You know,
968
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:09.159
it went from one bag to another. You know, it's you know,
969
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:13.680
it's uh before the internet. You
know, Steve Boston was. I interviewed
970
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:15.880
Steve Boston a couple months ago on
the show and he said the same thing.
971
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:17.880
He's like, you know, I'm
I'm like, I'm not going to
972
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:19.680
read those He's like, you know, I don't know if I should be
973
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:21.840
reading these sheets. And he's like, oh, everybody else is okay.
974
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:24.880
I guess it's okay to read them. Uh. You know, every every
975
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.479
wrestler has their story about about that, and you know it's taboo. But
976
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.920
then you know in your inner circle. Someone's got it on a car ride
977
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:32.800
and they pull it out and gets
passed around and that kind of thing.
978
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:36.159
Back again, there was note.
Now it's like put it on Twitter.
979
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:41.000
It's everywhere. Catch it here,
catch it there's in which which you did
980
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:45.279
with that, and how you took
it to this whole Like, I mean,
981
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:49.520
there's so much information there today.
It's mind boggling, really, I
982
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.520
mean, especially if a kid came
in. I made some of these kids.
983
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.439
They come up to me at these
signings or a mat or come up
984
01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:58.960
to me. I was in I
was in eight and dinner at North Georgia
985
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:01.000
last two nights ago. This kid
came up to me. Man, you
986
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:04.680
he was one of my biggest fans
ever. He was fourteen, which means
987
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:09.520
he never saw me Russell wise.
Yeah, yeah, oh you saw me
988
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:13.279
with she Slater with a diamond color. But after that, it's all the
989
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:16.399
YouTube and all the stuff that's out
there that they read. It's really crazy.
990
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:21.239
Yeah. Well, I get feedback
every day from people, including people
991
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:25.239
who are like I can go on
the Internet and there's so much information and
992
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:27.800
I just you know, put it
off and put it off and put it
993
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.479
off. But finally you know what
it was Steve Austin talking to me a
994
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.560
couple months ago about the Torch or
what you're saying now, or one of
995
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:36.640
my plugs or whatever it is,
worried about whatever it is that gets people
996
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to try it, I inevitably,
and it's it's one of my favorite parts
997
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of the day when that email comes
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999
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and they're just like, you've You've
earned my business for life. This
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is incredible. I had I known
that this type of coverage was available at
1001
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this level behind the paywall. You
know, you get what you pay for,
1002
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:00.279
and there's a reason that we try
charge for it so that I can
1003
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.640
dedicate my full time living to doing
it. You know, the free sites,
1004
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:09.039
it's it's a different situation. It's
a different setup. I can charge
1005
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:12.279
for what we do. We've got
a great staff and contributors, led by
1006
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.680
senior Torch columnist Bruce Mitchell, and
we can charge there. Every paid member
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people who, because we charge for
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more resources into it, and we've
got unmatched experience. So anyway, don't
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01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:35.840
don't want to get into a long
plug that Preak qualifies already as a long
1013
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:41.640
plug. DDP. Did you talk
about the invasion angle with a stalker because
1014
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:43.720
I know I cut out for a
minute when we had the technical problem.
1015
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.520
No, I didn't mention that.
In a nutshell, I pretty much give
1016
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:51.319
my relationship is so awesome when WWE
now, it's really amazing. Yeah,
1017
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:57.920
I had this relationship when I was
there the first time. Hunter actually brought
1018
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:02.199
me into the WWEP see the performance
center to work with the guys and gals
1019
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.479
ol in there, and they love
the program. Everybody came up to me
1020
01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:08.560
and asked me if because I brought
up part myself. But you got to
1021
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:10.960
come up to me and ask me
for it, because I'm not just gonna
1022
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:13.960
give it to you. You want
it, I'll give it to you as
1023
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.000
long as you're going to do it. And uh so, uh, you
1024
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.840
know, Ben Hunter set that whole
thing up, you know, so uh
1025
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.920
you know, the relationships really awesome. I think at that time when I
1026
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:27.159
went in there, there was a
point to be proven, and the point
1027
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.560
was to be proven that, you
know, the best of w c W
1028
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.920
couldn't really match up with the best
of WWE. And me and Taker we
1029
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:38.760
didn't mix, you know, we
didn't. And now I think it may
1030
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:41.840
have been designed that way or not, it's irrelevant to me. I think
1031
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.039
today, if I ever got the
ring with them, we would tear it
1032
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.199
down, you know, not really
like today. But we go back in
1033
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:53.159
time and it was today, I
think we would really torn it down together.
1034
01:16:53.680 --> 01:17:00.039
But I wish I would have done
the this is this is like I
1035
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:01.720
wish it. I don't wish.
I wish I would have done the People's
1036
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.079
Champion versus People's Champion angle because that
would have been so money. And of
1037
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:12.159
course me and Rock, right,
we had the real angle. And Rock
1038
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:17.840
is the hottest actor in Hollywood and
he's our guy. Yeah, I mean,
1039
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:23.399
what an unbelievable I mean, I
couldn't no one could say anything bad
1040
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:28.239
about the Rock around me because you're
I'm want to bust their balls big time
1041
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:33.199
because the Rock keeps coming back with
us and he's a part of us and
1042
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:38.359
always will be. And he's the
biggest star in the world. That looks
1043
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:44.279
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Pw torch dot com slash go vi
ip. But here's what I learned because
1053
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.000
I came in there. We talked
about goals. It's a great way to
1054
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:34.439
seguey out of this. Yes,
me about setting goals. I met the
1055
01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:39.560
Rock two years before I came in, and I was with the Big Show
1056
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.680
and I was at a show that
they were at and we were wrestling in
1057
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.760
a pay per view the next night, so I'd come in early and me
1058
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.640
and Big show best friends. I
raised them in the business. I pulled
1059
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:54.600
them up and brought him to you
know, the power Plant. I trained
1060
01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:58.039
him and got him ready for Hogan
because I was always down to power Plant
1061
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:01.800
when I wasn't working on the road. And that's really I wasn't working that
1062
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:10.239
much back then on the road.
So the goal setting when we were when
1063
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:14.479
we were in there, the Rock
and I had a great conversation and I
1064
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.840
was explaining to him that I saw
him doing an interview where he said,
1065
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:23.960
you know, the rock this and
the Rock that, and then he went
1066
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.119
back he was Dwayne Johnson, and
then he went to Rock this and the
1067
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:29.159
Rock that, and then he came
back. I said, I love the
1068
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.520
way you went back and forth with
that. It was really entertaining and man,
1069
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:35.359
and at the time I was above
him. He was on that rock
1070
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:40.039
and headed for the stratosphere. But
he hadn't passed me yet, you know,
1071
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.359
so there was still there was still
a big level of respect on both
1072
01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.760
levels. And as I was walking
out of the locker room, I hear
1073
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:55.840
hey, Diamond, and the voice
is completely changed now. And I'm just
1074
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.920
about that down the hallway and out
of this huge locker room at the skydill
1075
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.680
And in Toronto, and Big Show
leans out of my way so I can
1076
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:08.760
see him, and there he is. He's this is in his Versace fifteen
1077
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:14.079
dollars Versachi shirt face. He's rolling
on one of those shirts and you can
1078
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:21.640
just tell he's winding up. And
he says, you know, there's only
1079
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:27.600
one people's champion. And Big Show
almost showed blew agast and he's like,
1080
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:30.720
oh my god, now, oh
oh that was Oh my god, he
1081
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:39.439
killed you. And I just stood
there and I stared at him and I
1082
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:43.520
said, you know, Rock,
you're right, and you my friend,
1083
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:47.920
well you're looking at him. Oh. I went out the door. Didn't
1084
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.640
give me a chance to say shit. The eyebrow went up and Big Show
1085
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:56.439
sold it huge. I mean,
oh god. He was like, nobody
1086
01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:00.399
stops him. Oh my god,
nobody does that to him. So I
1087
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.960
went back that night to the hotel
room. I wrote Kimberly up. I
1088
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.479
told her how I was going to
show up at a WWF and she's like,
1089
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:11.640
what, I just signed a multimillion
dollar three year deal. WWWCW is
1090
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.079
like, but I'm not going to
stay here when it's done. I have
1091
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.359
to end there. And I came
up with this way where this whole thing
1092
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:21.039
that night, I came up with
this whole idea. You have turn off
1093
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:25.159
all the lights in the building.
You know everybody's going to get its course.
1094
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:30.720
Chris Jericho and No Jericho. Now
it's like twenty seconds, thirty seconds.
1095
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:34.000
Jim Ross is like, hold on, people who've got some technical difficulty.
1096
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:39.119
And then for the first time ever, you hear my voice and alls
1097
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:45.640
you hear me say, is who's
the real people's champion? And then a
1098
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:53.720
spin spotlight on my face and the
crowd would have went bizark and throw my
1099
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.960
hands up in a diamond cutter sign, and I go, you're looking at
1100
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.840
him. I go to the ring
and I'm animating this whole story, passion
1101
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:09.840
vision. I can see it.
I go and Kim's like, wow,
1102
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:14.159
Wow, what do you She's always
told I'm like living this like it's really
1103
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.800
happened. I go to the ring. I go, Rock is hurt or
1104
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.560
you know they pulled them out for
a couple of weeks, or or he's
1105
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:24.680
filming a movie that wasn't filming movies
back then. Of course, today's the
1106
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:29.560
biggest figured action star in the world, but back then he wasn't filming movies.
1107
01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:34.600
Freaking But it was in my head. This is about envisioning a reality.
1108
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:40.920
When I come to that meeting with
Vince McMahon that day, that's in
1109
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:44.159
my mind. But I know they
already have something for me, so I
1110
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:47.560
know I have an open mind,
but you're gonna push this well. They
1111
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:54.399
were so passionate about the stalker angles, and now I know for good reason.
1112
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.520
You know, when I it's the
first time ever, wait, in
1113
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:05.319
my life, I let someone shift
my goal. They shifted me off of
1114
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:10.600
it because if they're passion to tell
me this, And when I did pitch
1115
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.359
it to them, I pitched it
like it was aside another idea, but
1116
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:17.199
they went back to this idea.
Now here's what I should have done,
1117
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:21.840
and I learned this from that meeting. I should have said, Vince,
1118
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.840
thank you very much for the opportunity, Shane's the pleasure to meet you.
1119
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:30.159
When you guys want to do people
champion versus people's champion, call me and
1120
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:34.600
walked out the door. But I
didn't do that. As we know now,
1121
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:43.279
what did I learn from that?
Don't ever ever named the first number,
1122
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:51.640
don't meaning money or terms to a
deal, don't ever agree to anything
1123
01:23:53.239 --> 01:24:00.000
the first time. Now since I
have done that said in the beginning,
1124
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:09.239
I've amassed more fortune than I did
in wrestling. And I said this,
1125
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.439
I know I said it to you
years before, my friend. At some
1126
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:20.239
point, DDP Yoga will be a
household name, and right around that time
1127
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:27.960
or before that, it's gonna dwarf
when I did in professional wrestling. How
1128
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:30.159
what are the chances we see though? What you said, you don't really
1129
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:34.600
want to call an intomercial per se, but uh, a program that's raising
1130
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.359
awareness for DDP Yoga on television late
night when people are you know, typically
1131
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:43.840
in the mood for that kind of
thing. Well, that that's what we're
1132
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:47.960
testing out right now. That where
I want it. Not this airing coming
1133
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:51.319
up this week. When it airs
the following week, I hope to have
1134
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:56.680
my the the app thing up on
the up on the screen so you can
1135
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.399
see the heart. It's just the
part for the heart monitor, so you
1136
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:03.119
can see the ray go from eighty
eighty five, ninety ninety four, one
1137
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:08.399
oh four one sixteen one two one
twenty eight. Wait a minute, they're
1138
01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:13.199
just standing there. Oh, and
they're strengthening and lengthen because you're not just
1139
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:19.039
stretching with DDP yoga. Your strengthening
and your lengthening not just your muscles,
1140
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:29.000
your tendons and your your tendons and
your ligaments, so that your strengthening.
1141
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:32.760
So if you slip and fall down
two stairs, you're not crippled around for
1142
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:36.680
a month or six months. You'll
probably get back up and go, oh
1143
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:43.479
boy, glad I did my workout
today, because that's how fast you bounced
1144
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:49.159
back. Look at the most flexible
man in professional wrestling three letters, and
1145
01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:58.319
it's not DDP, it's RVD.
RVD twenty five years wrestlings to day with
1146
01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:00.399
seventeen he's now going to be forty. I think he just turned forty three.
1147
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:10.600
That's twenty six years of one of
the most impacting wrestlers ever. And
1148
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:14.239
the wear and tear that RBD is
put on his body. How is it
1149
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:23.680
possible that he's had one single injury
his knee, one single injury in twenty
1150
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:30.439
six years. Yeah, he's flexible, crazy flexible, but his scores strength
1151
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:35.119
is crazy flexible, and his tendons
and his ligaments are crazy, flexible,
1152
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:46.239
and strong. Every Sunday night,
catch Wrestling Night in America on PW Torchdailycast
1153
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:50.399
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1154
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:54.279
welcome a co host from the Torch
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1155
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:58.279
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1156
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.119
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1157
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:03.560
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1158
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:05.920
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1159
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:12.000
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1160
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:15.359
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1161
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:18.840
Search PW Torch and Apple Podcasts or
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1162
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:35.560
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dot Com. Go again back. Don't
1163
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:41.439
we're closing out with there. Don't
let anyone take you off your goal.
1164
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:45.199
Don't let anyone take you off your
vision. When if you set that,
1165
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:50.279
let's call it a New Year's resolution. Own it, yep, write it.
1166
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:56.119
Down. Set yourself up to win, don't set yourself up to fail.
1167
01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:00.319
Here's the three things if you're setting
goals in life that think like a
1168
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.079
champion. This is from Donald Trump's
book, and I agree everything he says,
1169
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:11.920
and it's originally from Napoleon Hill.
Number one, know your craft.
1170
01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:15.720
Know whatever it is you're doing,
whether it's professional wrestling to running a pay
1171
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:20.279
wrestling site, to being a doctor
to being a lawyer. I don't care
1172
01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:26.800
what musician, actor you name it, it all applies. Know your craft
1173
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:31.600
or be on your way to knowing
your craft as good or better than anyone.
1174
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:36.199
Number two, you gotta love it. You gotta love it so much
1175
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:43.039
you be willing to do it for
nothing, for nothing because you love it
1176
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:47.720
that much. And number three,
don't quit, don't ever quit. Notice
1177
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.680
you can't go to the wall.
Go bam, bam bam. I'm gonna
1178
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:53.960
get through that wall. I'm gonna
get through that wall. I'm gonna get
1179
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:58.600
through that wall. You should quit. You need to figure out you need
1180
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.199
maybe go over the wall, under
the wall, Maybe take another hike around
1181
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:06.079
the wall. Oh it's two more
miles, too fucking bad. That's how
1182
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:11.439
you're going to get there. Because
you ain't going through that wall. God
1183
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:15.000
doesn't put walls in front of us
to keep us out. God puts walls
1184
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.520
in front of us to make us
realize how much we want it. So
1185
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.079
let me ask you a question.
To you, Wade, are you living
1186
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:27.319
the dream? Oh? Yeah,
definitely, damn right. You are live
1187
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.399
in the dream. Man. I've
never known anything but live in the dream.
1188
01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:34.399
And anyone who's listened living the dream
means this, find me something that
1189
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:40.399
you love to do and figure out
a way get someone to pay you to
1190
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:44.439
do it. Just so you can
really understand what Wade Keller is doing and
1191
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:48.600
what a handful of other guys followed
him doing. But he was one of,
1192
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:54.239
if not the very first guy that
had to figure out how to get
1193
01:29:54.279 --> 01:30:00.279
paid to live my dream and do
it better than anybody. I been the
1194
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:02.359
dream on a whole different level.
Man, DC, how are you on
1195
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:04.960
time? Do we have time for
a call and a couple of VIP subjects
1196
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:08.439
or do you got to run?
See I got about fifteen more minutes.
1197
01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:11.279
That's perfect, That's what I got
too. So let's let's take one more
1198
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.039
call and we'll wrap up the free
show. We'll do a little extra for
1199
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.119
VIP members. I want to talk
about Scott Hall, Jake Roberts and I
1200
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:19.000
also in the VFP after show,
DDP want to talk about the Performance Center
1201
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:23.720
compared to the power Plant. We've
got gotten questions about that. You were
1202
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.880
at both, so I think that's
a fascinating topic. But let's need one
1203
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:30.279
more call in here on the free
live cast area code six oh one.
1204
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:34.720
Thank you for holding please state tournament. Where you're from Heywaye and Dallas is
1205
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:38.640
the stars and Robinson from Jackson to
city. How y'all doing doing good?
1206
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:42.840
Kevin? Thanks for calling? What
have you got for DDP? Uh downd
1207
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:46.279
Dallas years ago? When it was
years ago when you come down to Jacksonsissippi.
1208
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:50.520
I remember after every match you came
out you had here a wrap on
1209
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:58.520
your back and ice packed. How
you angiea peck? Let's see the reason
1210
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.960
is leading my next question. It's
a person I wish you could reach out
1211
01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.880
to and help him. He need
some help since you help so many people
1212
01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:08.479
rich the Stained Boat and that's what
I want to get your thoughts about that.
1213
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.199
And also you forgot about one other
few besides a people champion. One
1214
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.239
I brought up to you a couple
of months ago, was you versus Randy
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01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:18.159
or a r k O versus Diamond
Cutter? And that's all I have to
1216
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:21.520
day. Thanks for your help.
I'm gonna get the DDP yoga next year.
1217
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:28.920
That's a man yo. The uh, the thing with the ice bags.
1218
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:34.000
I always tell everyone if you're if
you're an athlete, and I don't
1219
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:36.960
mean ones that you want to be
a professional athlete, if you're if you
1220
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:41.479
play intermal sports, if you're in
a league after high school and college and
1221
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.680
you're still playing basketball in the league, or yo, I don't care what
1222
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.439
you're doing. You got you got
you cause inflammation for all the you know,
1223
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:50.920
the beaten of your body. And
the biggest thing to help you know
1224
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:56.640
cut information besides cutting and putting in
real food in your body is ice in
1225
01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:59.920
your bodies. That's why I always
ice my back, ice my knees,
1226
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:03.079
ice my shoulders, and uh,
he kept me in a ring so many
1227
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:06.720
years longer. That's why I did
that. As far as Randy Orton,
1228
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:12.760
uh, one of my favorite favorite
people to watch in the ring, and
1229
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:15.000
I love that he's got a version
of the diamond cutter that he does.
1230
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:20.119
Uh, And I was all for
him doing it, and uh, I
1231
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:24.880
was really I was psyched to see
that, uh that you know, he
1232
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:29.920
was the first since Chris Jericho being
the absolute first one. Uh you know
1233
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.199
the uh the dual title. What's
it called out? Uh? The what's
1234
01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:38.640
that called out? What's it called? Uh? The what the title that
1235
01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:42.840
he has now it's the the uh
he's got both titles for Orton's title.
1236
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.600
Oh, the w WE World Heavyweight
Champion too. So it's just one time
1237
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.960
that he made it one title now, yep, okay, but at one
1238
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.640
point he was the unified that's what
he was. Oh you're talking about I
1239
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:55.239
wasn't turn about Ortner Jericho. That's
what I's right, Orton Orton just won
1240
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:59.279
both belts. That's a w w
W world title combined. Jericho the unified
1241
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:05.720
champion, right exactly. And the
uh. The thing with Randy is I
1242
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:11.119
would love to go back in time
and work with him. I believe that
1243
01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:14.279
that train has passed, but I
would love to have done something with a
1244
01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:16.960
couple of years ago. But uh, I don't think that will ever happen.
1245
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:19.760
And you know what, it's really
fun for me, you know,
1246
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:24.600
and I hope it never happens.
That's like this. I hope they never
1247
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:28.000
offer it to me, which I
know they're not, which is a good
1248
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.439
thing for me and my body.
My body feels way too good. But
1249
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.159
I also get to go. You
know, Randy, Randy Orton got one
1250
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:39.840
of the greatest finishes ever next to
mine, and you know, uh he
1251
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:45.319
is a legend killer, but he
ain't killed me yet. It would cost
1252
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:49.960
him a lot of money just for
me with an r KO too, because
1253
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:58.079
I'd rather not and go. He
ain't ever killed me yet. So no,
1254
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:00.880
uh no, no plans yet to
be at right Somnia thirty. But
1255
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:02.560
you're not ruling it out. But
oh you know, I I know,
1256
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:06.119
I know, I know. Not
there. I'll I'm sure I'll be there.
1257
01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:11.319
Yeah, a lot of a lot
of feedback about people, you know,
1258
01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:15.399
wanting to come and do a DDP
yoga workshop while I'm there, so
1259
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.600
that may be you know, a
whole you know, a deal to do
1260
01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:21.600
on one of the days rolling into
that. So we've kind of got people
1261
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:26.319
all over the world doing doing the
program. So I'm sure I'll be doing
1262
01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:30.359
something down there in at Menia.
And Jake, Jake, I'm sure Jake
1263
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:32.399
will be with me. Jake looks
amazing I'm not sure Scott is gonna come
1264
01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:38.039
yet, but Scott looks great and
now they're they're both doing amazing, excellent.
1265
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:41.039
On the other side of the music, we'll hit three subjects for VIP
1266
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:45.479
members, Jake and Scott and Performance
Center versus the power Plant. You've been
1267
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:48.560
listening to the PW Torch live cast. I'm in Dallas Page. I've done
1268
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:53.159
my guest for the last nearly hour
and a half, Dallas Page, thanks
1269
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.000
so much, and we appreciate it. And check them out. Uh,
1270
01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:01.159
just Google search DDP yoga and check
out YouTube videos, go to his website.
1271
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:05.520
Anything else you want to plug DDP, Yeah, go to the Facebook.
1272
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:10.199
If don't listen to a word I
said today, go to Facebook,
1273
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:16.239
DDP Yoga one word, DDP Yoga
perfect and just read you right. Excellent
1274
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:20.600
And until Monday, where Bruce Mitchell
and Travis Bryant will be back in the
1275
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:26.479
outburn of Robbing Live. This is
way Keller. I behalf the DDP,
1276
01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:29.399
signing off vi T members listening to
us through the vi T site, Hold
1277
01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:46.520
on your bonus coverage is coming up
right after the music. All right,
1278
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:50.840
We're now to the VIP after show
portion of the program. At DDP.
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01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:56.239
I'm really curious to talk to you
about your impression of the Performance Center and
1280
01:35:56.319 --> 01:36:00.439
get your your right uh comparison between
that and the WW power plant where you
1281
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:03.600
spent so much time, because I
get asked that question a lot. Why
1282
01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:08.760
is this Performance center so revolutionary?
Wasn't there a power plant the WW had
1283
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:10.760
in the nineties? How is it
different than overs? What'd you think about
1284
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:15.680
that? I think it would be, Well, it's like this, it's
1285
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:21.039
not coke and pepsi. It might
be like R C Cola and Coca cola,
1286
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:27.239
you know, the the power plant
to the Performance Center, what Triple
1287
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:30.119
H built down there. Uh.
First of all, there's seven rings,
1288
01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:35.920
video cameras everywhere to be able to
video what you're doing in the ring.
1289
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.800
So at any point in time,
New York can see, like the Home
1290
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.399
Office can go down and just go
in there and watch what these guys are
1291
01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:48.439
doing, which is a whole different
animal, you know, because then you
1292
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:51.760
really get to see the guy because
the guys who went down there, who
1293
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:57.920
are who are there and work their
ass off whether those cameras lights are those
1294
01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:00.119
cameras are on them or not,
They're still going to be doing that.
1295
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:06.560
So that will shine through. The
other thing was the strength conditioning stuff that
1296
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:11.920
they've got there. All they needed
was DVP yoga to fill in just that
1297
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.800
gap of preventive maintenance. Because none
of those kids are hurt right now.
1298
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:23.039
You know, they're all young.
But you know what was interesting when I
1299
01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:27.800
sat down to talk with them,
I showed them that the Arthur Borman tape
1300
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:33.640
the Disabled Veteran. Did you know
that that video now wait as top ten
1301
01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:40.760
million views? Wow? I didn't
know that. That's great. It's going
1302
01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:45.279
viral twice. A lot of these
kids hadn't seen it. And there was
1303
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:50.600
fifty one men, sixteen or seventeen
women, and they were all stuts and
1304
01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:58.439
all very nice to be around,
great attitudes. When I first started after
1305
01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:01.439
the video, I said, I
won't need you guys to be honest with
1306
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:06.239
me here. And I'm asking this
for a reason. I said, I
1307
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:11.159
need because I need to know and
I really want you to be honest with
1308
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.640
me. Who has a problem with
the word yoga? And I raised my
1309
01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:19.159
hand. No one else does,
and I say, okay, I appreciate
1310
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:23.000
you being polite. I said,
now let me tell you who I am.
1311
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.319
I'm a guy who wouldn't be caught
dead doing yoga the first forty two
1312
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:31.239
years of my life. So if
you've got a problem with it, I
1313
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:34.119
get it. If you've got a
problem with it, raise your hand.
1314
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:42.119
Not one person. See guys who
are twenty nine and under, they get
1315
01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:44.520
it. They're like, fuck,
I just want to find a yoga that
1316
01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:49.600
works for me. They're not brain
dead like we were. Really anybody who's
1317
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:54.600
over forty yo or it depends on
what the area you're from. Us.
1318
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:59.039
If you're a top athlete and you
want to you know, you know that
1319
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.479
the guys aren't doing pills, and
you know, for the most part,
1320
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:08.560
nobody's testing positive for roids because if
they are there, they got three strikes
1321
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:12.880
and they're out. And bottom line
is, I'm sure some of the boys
1322
01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:16.039
are getting swinging it by but as
a whole, they're not. So when
1323
01:39:16.079 --> 01:39:21.680
you don't have any kind of and
what roids would do, like testosterone specifically
1324
01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:26.359
or deca No, no, I
don't think anybody could do decase stays in
1325
01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:32.560
their their system so long. But
deca Darabbla was made for burn victims to
1326
01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:44.239
help their skin heal faster. Yeah, you don't have to wait for the
1327
01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:46.319
way Keller pro wrestling post show to
find out what I thought of Monday Night
1328
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.279
Raw and SmackDown. Each week,
you can check out my reports that are
1329
01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:55.680
updated live throughout Raw and SmackDown at
pw torch dot com. My written report
1330
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:59.119
will tell you what's happening in detail
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1331
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:02.920
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1332
01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:06.600
am watching as it airs. So
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1333
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:12.840
night at pw torch dot com.
That also applies to WWE pay per views.
1334
01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:15.399
I cover those live at pw torch
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1335
01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.720
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you can find other TV reports from other
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01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:24.319
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1337
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:28.680
Check it out pw torch dot com
your first stop for TV and pay
1338
01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:45.600
per view written reports. Yeah.
In testosterone just natural testosterone keeps you in
1339
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:49.640
your unbeatable. Will you add more
and more testasto when you get stronger,
1340
01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:54.279
stronger and stronger yo, So you
don't you can beat You can work yourself
1341
01:40:54.359 --> 01:41:00.720
through the injuries. So all that
got bringing taken away? They need thing
1342
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:05.680
that's legal that they can do enter
DDP yoga, and with guys like Chris
1343
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:11.560
Jericho's testimony and Rye Back and so
many of the guys that do it,
1344
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:15.800
you know, it's they were excited
about doing it. So that was really
1345
01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:17.920
cool for me. I loved I
want to go back, And they've asked
1346
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:21.920
me if I want to come back
to do like not just DP yoga with
1347
01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:30.159
them this time, but actually actually
like come in as you know, one
1348
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:35.359
of the legends and get in the
ring and talk about and I can get
1349
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:41.319
in there and you remember that's I
grew up in that place, you know.
1350
01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:45.439
And and besides all the rings,
they've got an area where it's all
1351
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:49.479
Green Street, so they dont create
whatever they want behind it in the interview.
1352
01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:51.680
Then they have another one where you
can win. You say, it's
1353
01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:59.399
got an iPad there and you could
pull up you go thirty second interview sixteen
1354
01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:03.119
whatever do you want to do and
it'll count you down three to one and
1355
01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:06.520
then you cut your promo. Well
then you can watch it right back.
1356
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.920
Yeah. I mean it's that technology
just wasn't there at the power plant.
1357
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:15.079
You know the power plants, you
know, well, how many rings at
1358
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:19.439
the power plant. The most there
was was three. Yeah, and you've
1359
01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:26.359
got to remember one of the things
that everybody laughed at me about was filming
1360
01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:35.079
my matches. Everyone films everything.
Yeah. Yeah. The biggest thing,
1361
01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:41.079
the number one thing is no one
did it before me icing my body?
1362
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:44.800
Oh, I know it's and it's
just I reference that the other day somebody,
1363
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:46.479
I can't remember the exact context on
this show, somebody brought that up
1364
01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:49.000
and I said, Dallas Page took
Keith for it. People were like,
1365
01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:51.600
what's wrong with him? He's so
broken down? Why is rocking around at
1366
01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:55.560
the ice? See him? Punk
got heat for that sometimes, you know,
1367
01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:57.600
in the back because it's like,
oh, he can't handle it.
1368
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.279
He's always icing his body, and
it's like, no, that's you know.
1369
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:01.600
I think Grandy Orton does it now
too. It's like a lot of
1370
01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:04.560
guys do it, you know.
I mean the top guys who want to
1371
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:10.039
be injury free and perform at top
level. They just know. You know
1372
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:13.000
that that knowledge is there now.
I sing your body makes sense. You
1373
01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:16.039
know you're talking about generationally DDP Yoga
number one power forward in the NBA,
1374
01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:20.840
Kevin Love, big yoga proponent.
You know there's a reason that he is
1375
01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:25.319
able to do what he does and
is as versatile as he is unlike any
1376
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:29.119
power forward in history. And you
know, he's a big yoga guy.
1377
01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:32.079
That's that's how he keeps in shape
during the era and in the off season.
1378
01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:34.880
So it is a generational thing.
Now. Top elite athletes are like,
1379
01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:36.760
yeah, you know, I do
yoga. I mean, it's not
1380
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:40.439
even a thought. But you're right, people who are over forty or over
1381
01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:45.319
fifty see it as some you know, some mystical pseudo religious thing that you
1382
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.199
do where you're humming to yourself and
it looks silly, and you know,
1383
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:51.199
it's different now I do want I
know. We both only have a couple
1384
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:57.640
of minutes left, Howard Jake and
Scott doing any updates on their situation.
1385
01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:01.640
They spend time living at at the
d DP house and and how's that going
1386
01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:06.800
updated? Well, they they both
moved out a considerable time of uh,
1387
01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:12.920
like about three or four months now. Scotty was the first with his son
1388
01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:17.640
Cody, and they they they're literally
you know, walking distant nearby. Yeah,
1389
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:23.439
yeah, And uh, Scott I
got to see the other day,
1390
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:25.880
went by his house and we were
just hanging out for a little bit and
1391
01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:29.479
just trying to you know, we're
still you know, really good spirits.
1392
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:31.640
Uh, but you know Christmas time, you know, it's just tough for
1393
01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:34.319
some people. So he was,
you know, I think that he needs
1394
01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:38.399
to have a little bit more goals
setting for this year, which we're gonna
1395
01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:42.279
go over. Thinks was to get
together tomorrow, just because he you know,
1396
01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:46.840
he's funny man. He's with all
these these q and a's that are
1397
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:53.039
happening around, like Scott could do
like an act and like like mcfoley does
1398
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:57.359
completely different though, you know,
but I could definitely see Scott doing that
1399
01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:00.439
and uh and being entertaining like that, because he needs to get out there
1400
01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:04.600
and do some of that, and
you know hoping at some point that uh
1401
01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:09.479
you know, once he's uh you
know, gotten that clean to that certain
1402
01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:12.439
amount of time, uh, you
know, that WW might want to do
1403
01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:14.399
something with him. I would like
to say, I would like to see
1404
01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:17.760
that for him, because, uh, you know, he's very very very
1405
01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:23.159
creative. He's got all his all
his faculties going now. Well, Jake
1406
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:29.439
and Scott are so known for being
troubled and addiction issues and and all that,
1407
01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:32.199
all the controversies that come along with
that they're also so highly regarded for
1408
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:35.920
the wrestling minds, you know,
and and that that's the thing that I
1409
01:45:35.960 --> 01:45:41.279
think makes people especially interested in their
story. There's a human interest story,
1410
01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:45.399
but there's also these guys are so
incredibly intelligent and talented, and everybody realizes
1411
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:48.560
that that. I think they're a
little more invested in seeing their journey right
1412
01:45:48.600 --> 01:45:51.079
now, trying to you know,
get to a better place and be able
1413
01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:57.039
to take advantage of those of those
those gifts and those that acquired knowledge that
1414
01:45:57.079 --> 01:46:00.520
they have in the pro wrestling industry. Yeah, yeah, I just hope
1415
01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:02.279
they can keep doing it, you
know, you know, I when they
1416
01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:05.800
were here, I know, they
were a really positive environment, you knoweah.
1417
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:10.720
And for that for that year,
I took out all booze. I
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01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:14.119
took out there was you know,
there's you know, wine or whatever,
1419
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:17.159
but that was always in my rock, my attic or my my locked my
1420
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:21.520
closet locked down, So it wasn't
there for aing, wasn't campting anybody.
1421
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:25.560
You know that they both would go
to freaking bars, you know, to
1422
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.279
eat or whatever, and they not
drink. So yeah, I think that's
1423
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:31.359
a good test for him too.
I want to end on this note,
1424
01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:34.000
And I could do an hour with
you talking about Scott and Jakes. I
1425
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:36.479
think it's a fascinating story in such
a great thing, you know, that
1426
01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:40.399
that that you offered for them,
in a great place that you you gave
1427
01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:43.479
them to go and like you said, just had such a positive environment and
1428
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.560
two guys who had just given up
on themselves. Really And I could do
1429
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:48.359
an hour on this with you.
But just final final topic for you is
1430
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:55.159
it is there is there something about
that process? I mean there has to
1431
01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:57.880
be a lot of things, but
what jumps out the most that you learned
1432
01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:03.760
about yourself, your beliefs, and
your approach to life when you were so
1433
01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:08.920
close and so immersed and trying to
help Scott and Jake. And I mean
1434
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:13.039
this not as a softball question.
I mean it as an introspective, difficult
1435
01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:16.680
question. Was there anything that you
learned because they were such challenges, that
1436
01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:21.399
they had been through so much and
had so much baggage and perhaps at times
1437
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:27.920
resistance or skepticism. Were you ever
humbled along the way or maybe thrown off
1438
01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:32.399
a little bit by the challenges that
they presented to you? I think,
1439
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:36.920
if anything, the keyword that comes
to me is patience. And anybody really
1440
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:45.640
knows me knows I'm not all that
patience over anything with those guys. You
1441
01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:50.159
know, I could, you know, I could take those extra breaths at
1442
01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:57.680
times and try to understand it from
their point of view and just try to
1443
01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:01.039
be really fair the uh you know, and it's tough, you know,
1444
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:03.680
because you know when people say,
man, I can't believe you, hope
1445
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:08.880
Jake Robertson, Oh, by,
I go dude. Just remember we're talking
1446
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:12.159
about Jake roberts here. You know, we're Scott Hall the same thing.
1447
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:15.239
At any point in time, Scotty
will not be that guy. Hey,
1448
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:17.880
I've got six months in. I've
got seven months in, I've got even
1449
01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:23.520
he will not be that guy.
It's just that it reminds me when we
1450
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:27.960
were in, when I was managing
him. I'll never forget Michael Graham got
1451
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.560
blessed his soul. There's a good
buddy of mine back in the day,
1452
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:33.560
and he made a lot of things
happen for me. Uh from the grand
1453
01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:36.520
family. Uh yeah, but he
was an agent, you know, he's
1454
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:40.479
one of dust these boys. And
uh, when we had come in and
1455
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:45.399
I was managing Scott and he wanted
him to cover him and do the double
1456
01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:49.600
bicep post. Scott's like, I'm
not going to do that. He's like,
1457
01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:53.159
well, why wouldn't you got a
great body, you got great guns,
1458
01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:57.000
you got I'm not always going to
have these guns, you know.
1459
01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:00.760
Then my gimmick's over because my body
is I'm not a body builder who does
1460
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:05.560
Rustley goes, I'm a wrestler just
has to have a good body. Yeah,
1461
01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:09.159
yep. He never even back then
he wouldn't want to be labeled into
1462
01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:12.079
that. And the whole drinken thing
when he talks about Drake and he goes,
1463
01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:15.880
hey, I'm not gonna tell people
booze and and and drugs aren't fine
1464
01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:19.199
because they are. He says that
now, you know, he says,
1465
01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:25.800
but when you get to the point
where they need you need them, they
1466
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:30.399
don't need you, and then you
just can't quit, then they become a
1467
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:34.239
really bad problem. Yep. You
know. But he's he's like that,
1468
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:36.920
just like he didn't even want to
be like, you know, originally I
1469
01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:40.840
was doing to save but just call
this movie, you know, it's never
1470
01:49:40.840 --> 01:49:45.319
too late. The Resurrection Jake Steak
and Scott Hall and because they're both so
1471
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.560
different, like Scott was like,
you just do that with Jake. No,
1472
01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:53.239
I'll just I'll do my thing over
here, Dolly. I was like,
1473
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:58.960
you know, whatever works. Now. I'm just glad that people could
1474
01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:01.680
see the amazing come back to have
and and then today I just take it
1475
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:04.119
day by day. Whenever I'm talking
to everybody, how you doing, you
1476
01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:08.640
know, what's up? I try
to you know, Scotty and Jake,
1477
01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.680
bobdel I burned a candle at four
ends and right now, I don't know
1478
01:50:12.720 --> 01:50:16.319
if you saw anything about my my
girl, Brenda Kay, I call it
1479
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:25.960
BK. She got breast cancer like
uh maybe five six weeks ago. And
1480
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:29.720
as soon as I found out,
you know, and they talked about double
1481
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:34.600
mastectomy and you know, then the
reconstruction. It's like that's really evasive surgery
1482
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:41.079
on a woman. And I immediately
started looking into, you know, other
1483
01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:48.640
forms. That is not our money
making cancer country. I don't know if
1484
01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:55.840
you noticed, but chemo, chemo, just chemo is a two hundred billion
1485
01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:01.880
dollar business. Two hundred billion that's
in saying, you know. So I
1486
01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:05.880
took her to Mexico and I spent
two weeks there. Then we came back
1487
01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:10.039
here and then we're going back on
Sunday. So I mean, like my
1488
01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:13.960
time when I wanted to just be
chilling out and stuff, I'm still working
1489
01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:16.640
down. I'm doing that at Tijuana
and I still got to travel out of
1490
01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:19.399
there all over, so you know, I get pretty fried out. And
1491
01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:23.680
those guys know it, so they
try not to bring me anything, you
1492
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:26.000
know, Like I'm like, dude, just call me, you know what
1493
01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:28.920
you need to talk, blah blah
blah. But I am a little fried
1494
01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.199
right now. And then you know, I do help a lot of people
1495
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:36.760
on the DDP yoga site, and
you know, there's only so many questions
1496
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:41.520
I could answer. Like I was
looking forward to sitting down and talking to
1497
01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:44.359
you because I knew we talk about
everything. You know, we always have
1498
01:51:44.439 --> 01:51:47.079
great times when we get on and
talk about whatever the fuck we're talking about.
1499
01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:50.000
But you know, I got I'm
just looking around right now by the
1500
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:53.720
room, but I think I got
to be out of here in thirty two
1501
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:57.000
hours. I haven't even started the
pack for two weeks, and man,
1502
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:03.039
it's brutal. It's brudu. Best
best of luck to you, Thank you
1503
01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:05.359
again. It's you're always generous with
your time when you're on the show,
1504
01:52:05.399 --> 01:52:10.279
and generous with the stories that you
share. And the and the insights that
1505
01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:15.800
you share also, so good luck
DP. Thank you so much. We'll
1506
01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:18.399
have you on again in twenty fourteen
and get an update on things. You
1507
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:21.920
got it, buddy. I have
a great holiday and everybody be safe out
1508
01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:27.119
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Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast. It's time
for this week's Interview Classic where Wade Killer
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Interview is one of pro Wrestling's newsmakers. Ten years ago today I interviewed Diamond
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Dallas page four an episode talking about
wrestling and also technology and being motivated going
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into the new year. He talked
about DDP, yoga and some new technologies
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he's working with, also backstage politics
of WCW. When he won Battle Bowl,
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the prospects at interest level he has
had over the years in matches against
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Randy Orton or Undertaker at WrestleMania.
An update on the lives of former housemates
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Jake Roberts and Scott Hall. A
review of Mick Foley's stand up show,
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the difference between the WW Powerplant during
the nineteen nineties and the new WWE Performance
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Center, The origins of the Diamond
Cutter and what made it special compared to
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similar finishers, how he dealt with
backstabbers in WW during his rise, and
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more, including live calls. This
originally live streamed on December twenty seventh,
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twenty thirteen, ten years ago today, and it is today's Wade Keller Pro
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Wrestling Podcast Interview Classic for Wednesday,
December twenty seventh, twenty twenty three.
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Slash Pro Wrestling Torch, Welcome to
the people of your Torch live cast
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here on Friday, December twenty seventh, twenty thirteen. Our final interview Friday
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of twenty thirteen, and I am
excited to be introducing a return guest to
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the program, Diamond Dallas Page,
DDP, welcome back, Well, good
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to be here, and damn,
we still have never even finished our series
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yet. I think I'm passed Scott
Hall. Have I pass Scott Hall?
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Is the most talk time on budging
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There's a great torch talk that we
ran on Dallas Page few years ago
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in the Prosing Torch newsletter chronicling the
vast majority of your career just before WWE
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and we want to finish that one
of these one of these days. And
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I'm glad you brought that up.
It was a great time to have you
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on the show, because this is
the time of year year after the holidays,
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you're thrown away the wrapping paper,
trying to figure out what gifts you're
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gonna keep in return, and and
you've got to spend time with your family
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recovering from travel whatever it is,
and people start thinking about uh New Year's
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resolutions, And we're not gonna have
this show by any means entirely be a
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uh uh an infomercial for DDP Yoga
but that is one and you did not
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even suggest I do this, but
that is certainly one thing, uh DDP
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that some people might want to consider
if they're looking to get in shape,
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uh, you know, or get
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UH. Your program, I know
you were very proud of it, and
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uh it's good time to have you
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the too. I've uh I've seen
it make differences and I've really felt good
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after using the program. So we
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that and and just just in general, how your post wrestling uh wrestling life
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let people know though that if you do
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want to talk about uh WCW in
the late nineties or Damondellas Page's career in
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general, we absolutely welcome those phone
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four six seven two one nine A
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Cast at gmail dot com. And
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DDP in your life with an update
on Jake Roberts and Scott Hall and all
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that good stuff. So I guess, first of all, DDP, I
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want to ask you, uh,
are you the type who has New Year's
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resolutions or are you just is every
day a day that you wake up with
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resolutions for how you want to change
for the better or set new goals?
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You know? I I don't have
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I may have had like a long
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first of the year, but I've
learned that you know, people when they
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achieve goals when they set because that's
what a resolution is. You say,
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I'm going to stop fighting my nails, I'm going to try to be nicer
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to my brother and sister. You
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the best grades I've ever gotten school. You know I'm gonna show I'm going
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to get whatever. The All you're
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problem is most people with resolutions,
they don't write them down. This is
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the year I'm going to quit smoking. They never wrote it down, they
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didn't set a date, and and
I often say I can't remember who set
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it originally. Just don't think it
ink it. It's because you know,
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if you look at every dream,
I mean, just look at the computer.
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Any computer, the shittiest computer out
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years, and that computer will blow
away anything. The shittiest computer out there,
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it's made in the last three years, will blow anything out there that
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way that was made twenty years ago, because it all started with someone thinking.
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And I think Steve Jobs have of
watching his movie, and I'm not
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going to judge him too harshly,
but I think he was a genius,
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but I think he was an asshole. And even though the way he didn't
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take care of the people who take
they took care of him, and I
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have a problem with those kind of
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on it, just my own personal
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But Steve Jobs saw shit that no
one else saw, you know, and
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you know, it's a lot how
I've done my life, you know,
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and the people who see things that
other people don't see. And Wade,
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you were there the first day in
my wrestling career as a manager in nineteen
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eighty eight, and if I told
you, then we know eventually I'm want
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to get in a ring and I'm
gonna eventually be main eventor and I'm eventually
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gonna be the world champion. You
might have like blew the beer that was
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you were drinking out your nose or
something. You know, because when people
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say shit like that, everybody goes, Oh, you're not gonna do that.
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Everyone will tell you why you can't
do things. I've always taken the
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path bus travel from my nightclub career, my wrestling career, and DDP yoga
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is probably the best example of all. And I just segue to this for
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one moment to say, if I
was doing yoga like yoga, I'd be
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have a different demeanor. I'd have
a complete different attitude in the way I
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do what I do. I would
be creating it for the twenty plus million
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yogis out there, and I take
over a huge part of that whole community
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because of stage presence, because of
knowing how to go grit get people to
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do things that they never do.
I would be probably the biggest name,
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if not top three biggest names in
yoga. But I didn't do that.
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I took the path bus, the
path that's traveled so much so there was
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not a path I took the path
where there were nobody who would be caught
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dead doing yoga. There was no
path in the road. I got out
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a bulldozer and I started knocking down
one tree out of another, or made
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one more believer after another, the
same way I did in my wrestling career.
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And you know it's it's about setting
a goal, a resolution, if
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you will. But let's take it
a step farther. If you're actually serious
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about setting a resolution this year,
let's make it real. Let's sit down,
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type it in your computer. You
don't have to write it on a
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piece of paper. Type it in
your computer, look at your you know
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your yearly schedule, what you have
to do, what's possible, and then
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let's set a goal and a date. Because here's the things that make setting
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goals possible. I call it SmackDown
very appropriately from where we come from,
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and the smack as an acronym is
specific. That means you have to have
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a specific goal. Then you make
it measurable, which is the m a
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achievable. You have to make sure
it's achievable. You don't want to set
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that goal because you want to set
your something up to fail. So specific,
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measurable achievable. Then you have to
make the C compatible. It's got
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to be compatible to your lifestyle.
And then you got to add in K
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and the K is keep it going
specific, measurable, achievable, compatible K,
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keep it going the down, do
it, own it, write it
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down now. And that's a really
cliff notes version of how really to set
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a real resolution. That's pretty that's
pretty cool. I didn't I didn't you
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called it SmackDown. I didn't know
you would actually be able to fill in
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each of those letters. But that
actually works really well, and I do
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like that plan. I think that's
a that's the goals that I have achieved
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have followed that pattern, whether I
was conscious of it or not. So
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it's kind of interesting when you lay
it out like that. You know,
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there's some keywords in there that sometimes
just don't achieving goals don't work out because
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a couple of those letters are missing
from the execution. If that makes sense,
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well, it makes total sense.
Waight, yeah, listening, if
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you know why, God, I've
tried everything, I've tried it all unless
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use weight because weight's the easiest,
because everyone wants to lose weight, whether
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it's five pounds to put on weight
they want. They want it one way
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or the other, because no one
looks in the mirror and goes, damn,
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I look good. Damn. I
don't have to do what I said.
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I bet buff bagwell did that a
couple of times. Oh well,
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Buff, he still does. But
besides me, there's nobody I know that
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goes damn. I don't need any
work at all. So let's use weight
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as the variable to discern. You
know what we're talking about here? And
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God, give me back, is
that when you're about that cracked me up
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and took it off said about setting
the goal. Wait, he said,
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way easies, because everybody wants to
a loser gang weight. Do what everybody
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else wants, a loser game weight. You know, wait, I can't
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remember that. That's another reason why
I write ship down. That's a great
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example. Well, uh, feel
free to interrupt me if you if you
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uh, if that comes back.
Yeah, the DDP yoga, I want.
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I want to talk about that at
the beginning of the show and get
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a chance for you to plug how
people can get it and uh and and
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kind of update how it's going.
And I'm always curious to see and to
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hear from you. Where you've been
plugging it. New people who have endorsed
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it, whether you know, are
different ways that that has expanded to new
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places. I just kind of like
to get an update on how that that's
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that passionate project of yours is coming
along. And that is a really appropriate
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word you use, their passion.
You know a lot of people say,
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man, you really sell this unbelievable. It's like I ain't selling shit because
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I don't care if you do it
or not. I don't want you to
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buy it and not do it.
You know, everyone who buys it,
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I send them a you know,
it's a telegram that goes out to them
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and say, listen, here's what
you do. You go to Team t
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e a m DDP yoga dot com. You sign up there. I will
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welcome you again with the only cut
and paste email you'll get for me.
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I tell you how to set up
yourself for for success, and I give
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it all to them, and people
would be blown away. And all you
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have to do is talk to any
one of the people who are on DDP
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yoga dot com, where it says
either the people who are before it afters
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success stories or the people who are
under construction. Ask anyone at any time
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to write any of them and see
if I've talked to him. There's like
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a ninety five percent chance I've talked
to every single one of them, and
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not at the end when they made
that move to start really putting the work
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in and when I see someone doing
that. There's a guy named Mark.
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I think it's like Furnace or something
like that. I can't remember, perhaps
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my last name, but he's an
English dude who lives in Ireland. His
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wife and him both got on it. I noticed him he lost one hundred
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pounds right now. Normally I catch
it before that, but he put up
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like those four pictures you know where
he've lost one hundred pounds now He's still
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had about another seven or eighty pounds
more to go, but he put those
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pictures up, so I like to
go, see, Okay, was he
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smart enough to go on day one
and take those six pictures. I'll be
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damned he took them all. That
guy in Ireland, we've spoken numerous times.
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I can't wait to meet him,
and a whole number of men and
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women in the UK. It's crazy, man. Now, when I do
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a signing, and I do signings, I don't need to so people can
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understand the success of DDP Yoga.
I've made more money in this than I
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ever made in wrestling. I don't
care the money though. That shows how
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successful the company is, because I've
made a lot of money those last five
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years in wrestling, but it's the
company. I keep giving back. I
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keep putting back into the company.
Like I'm telling you, Wade, we'll
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talk about this when it comes out, and I will be sending you a
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subscription to it so you can see
it and you'll have it for your lifetime,
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because there's certain people who I believe, who've been behind my product and
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believe in what I'm doing and have
the same passion, and I don't want
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you to have to pay for that. You know that it's going to be
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a subscription app to change the face
of fitness on the internet. And there's
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some good stuff out there right now, but when we launch this thing,
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there will be nothing like it,
and it will take There'll always be people
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buying DVDs, and our sales on
DVDs are unbelievable. I mean. And
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here's the best part, the very
best part. Wait. I look at
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every one of them every day,
and then I have a tally at tonight,
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so I know where it's coming from. Twenty to sometimes thirty five percent
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of my sales on DDP yoga dot
com comes from friends and family. Now
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you know this because me and you
good buds a long time. Especially,
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you know you were in the embryonic
stage. Is hyrg hell yoga for regular
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guys? I mean you went to
Yowen and you know that I call people.
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I just call them, you know, I zip through a person today
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and I just picked one and boom, it was a friends and family.
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So the mom the son gets on
and I said, it is God.
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I can't remember her name. Now
I'll say Susan. And Susan gets on.
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I go, hey, Susan's DDP. She goes the DDP. I
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go d DDP. She goes,
oh my god, can I put you
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on speaker? It's my son?
Because I said, well, who told
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you about this workout? She goes, it's my son who actually told you
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about me about the workout? So
of course, and he's probably about eighteen
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year or so, and we're talking. We're having a good time and I'm
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just giving them. You know,
make sure you join team DDP Yoga.
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Make sure you know, what do
you want to I want to lose a
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little weight to want to do this
and want to do that. Take the
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six pictures. I don't give a
shit what you need them for. You
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want to know your physiology, your
flexibility, and your core strength. You
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take those pictures every month and you're
going to see yourself change and you're going
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to go wow. I didn't realize
because everybody looks themselves in the mirror all
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day long, so they really don't
see the change. That's why you take
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the pictures. So at the end
of it, and this this this mother,
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mother and uh and son. They
were just so sweet. At the
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end, she goes, you know, my my other son, he's the
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one who's the biggest. He's a
big fan of yours too, and blah
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blah blah. She goes, he's
going to be so bummed out. I
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said, give me his phone number
and I called him. That was like
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a huge pop. And the other
ones are my favorite ones are people who
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have no idea who Diamond Dallas Pager
DDP is I love that And you know,
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could we get start talking? And
he goes, They're like, wait
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a second. You create the workout
and you're actually taking the time to call
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me. I go. I can't
call everybody, you know, whether it's
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a man or woman. You know, I can't call everybody you know.
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But you know, I try to
reach out to five or ten people a
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day, thank him forgetting the program, ask them they have any questions.
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If they don't answer the phone,
I leave them in awesome I leave them
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in an awesome message. And people
go back by Facebook, you know,
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the DDP Yoga Facebook, and they
write the coolest shit ever. I always
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tell you all my interviews, and
I'll say at the end of this interview
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again, you know, you can
go to DDP yoga dot com. You
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know, we got a sale going
on right now, which is like blowing
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out big time because we're I've come
down on my prices for the new year,
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and they're down significantly, but they
ain't down that far. You know.
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It's still value though, and you
get to see it all right there.
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And if you haven't seen that Arthur, the video of Arthur Warman,
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you got to see that there.
So it's all there for them to see.
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And then there's what the site is
so and you can there's nothing that's
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not there. You want to see
what the workouts look like go to the
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workout section. They'll give you a
trailer of every f and workout that I
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have so you can see everything.
All the questions are all answered. But
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I always tell people, don't listen
to any of that. Bullet go to
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Facebook, ddp yoga. It's one
word, ddp ogo. Read what people
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write. You can't make people write. Then you know, yeah, need
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So the app you got coming out, the fitness app, it's going to
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be an alternate way to view ddpoga
and this will be available on like iPad
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and and smart TV's like what we
explain that a little bit more imentry.
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Yeah, it's we were hoping for
a new year, but I'm not releasing
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anything that people aren't going, Holy
fuck, this is so cool. I'm
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not gonna it might take me the
other six months at this rate, but
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uh it will be like people will
still yet sometimes you're streaming, Okay,
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example, me and you, we've
been around a while, but you remembered
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the record because we had records.
Even when you're in you're quite so dearly
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younger to be, but when you
were for a kid, you had records.
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Right. Oh yeah, it's a
littly okay, which means you saw
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a tracks if you saw a tracks. Well, then you saw cassettes,
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then you saw CDs, and then
you saw the iPhone or the iPod or
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whatever the hell it was. Bottom
line is the only thing that has been
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around and has made it through all
these changes is the DVD. It's probably
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lasted not as long as the records
lot lasted, but I think it's lasted
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longer than anything. But there's gonna
come a time in the next couple of
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years where there will be no more
DVDs. It's probably about two or three
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years away. So the way I
see it, everyone is gonna have a
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smartphone of some sort. If they
don't have a smart phone, they're gonna
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have a smart pad, or they're
gonna have a smart computer. They're gonna
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have something, or they'll have DVDs. But if they have thatlong that line,
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well, your phone with a Google
TV or an Apple TV will go
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boop from your phone to the TV. Now. So anything you can get
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on your phone or your IPD or
your compute, your computer, you can
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now get on your TV. How
much more information can you fit on an
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app? The world is limitless.
I'm gonna have so many cool First of
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all, it'll start there'll be forty
workouts on there, but it'll be a
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subscription. The app will be free. And this is gonna be cool because
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it's gonna give people a way to
test out DDP Yoga and see if it
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works for them. I tell you
right now, this next two or three
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weeks, we've been testing our I'm
not calling it informercial because an infomercial it's
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like, hey, look at my
apps, look at my apps, Look
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at my apps. This isn't about
hey, look at my apps. This
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DDP Yoga documercial is about, hey, look at my life. I'm owning
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it. And it's regular people as
opposed to everybody going you know, they're
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almost in shape already, and now
I'm going to get shredded. I'm talking
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about people who can't do workouts,
to people who are beat up, to
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people, you know, to high
end athletes, and it goes across the
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border with my workout. But this
is the number of people who really do
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buy the infomercials. They should be
buying DDPS documercial and we're doing pretty good
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with it. The one thing I
changed, and I don't think it's going
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to be out this week the week
after though. You know how I talk
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about dynamic resistance way right when you're
engaging your muscles and flexing your muscles,
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and you understand how it elevates your
heart rate, right yep? Okay,
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So if someone's listening and they're watching, someone just you know, put their
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thumb and index fingers together. Matter
of fact, listen. If you guys
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are at home, just do this. Wait or he knows how to do
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this. You're listening to the show. I challenge you right now, don't
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even stand up. I challenge you. All I want you to do is
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pretty much. You're all a wrestling
fans. That's our market here. So
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make the diamond cutter side like sitting
down, put your thumbs and your index
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fingers just press them against each other. Now, open your fingers, don't
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have them tight. Open your fingers. Now what I want you to do,
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and I want you to humor me
here. I want you to push
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your thumbs and your index fingers against
each other really hard. I mean really,
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just keep pushing. Notice the inside
of your forearm, your bicep,
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and your pectoral muscle keep pushing.
Are all engaged. Now, straighten your
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arms straight out in front of you. Keep pushing your thumb and index fingers
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together. But now I want you
to pull your pinky away from your thumb.
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So push your thumb and index fingers, but pull your pinky away from
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your thumb. Now, when you
do that, outside of your whole hand
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will engage the outside of your form. Your tricep, Your tricep, and
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your deltoid have to engage. Now, don't just lift your fingers. Don't
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lit your hands up to the sky. What I want you to do while
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pushing your thumbs in, index fingers
together, pull your piggies away, come
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back and raise up into a diamond
cutter, creating your own resistance, as
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if you're moving through clay. Now
bring your arms out to the sign of
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a cross or a T. Now
clinch your fist really tight and pull those
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fists together, those biceps together.
In other words, holk it up,
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brother, Come on and hold it
in tight, tight tight. Now,
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open your fingers wide, throw your
shoulders back that shug shoulders backest out at
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ease. Now, anyone who's listening, just feel your forehead. You'll feel
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your heart rate going up. So
what happens? Why did that happen?
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You're sitting down, How can your
heart rate be going up? Sitting down
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because it doesn't matter what you're doing. When you flex or engage a muscle,
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your heart must beat faster to get
the blood to that muscle. And
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just like when you're laying down,
your heart rates the lowest, sit up,
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your heart rate goes up. Stand
up, your heart rate will go
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up. Walk it will go up. Job, run sprint up, up
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up, same thing except for my
DDP. Yoga is with minimal joint impact,
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and here there was nothing because you're
sitting down. So here's what I
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did that was really, really really
cool. We're still in the editing base
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with it right now. Now.
We do everything, We film everything.
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We're a production studio. That's what
we do now, all from all our
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videos to everything. So what we
did is I took four people and I
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put heart monitors on them, and
behind me is a TV and we've created
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an app. So the heart rate
goes to the TV. So you're wearing
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it on your chest, but we're
picking it up on the TV. So
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now you can see Britney's heart rate
is eighty, maybe Kyle's is ninety one,
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Brenda's is eighty four's Jason's is seventy
eight. All I have them do
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and you watch it right there.
It's live, there's no trick photography.
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You stand there. I get them
to bend their knees. I give them
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the flexter quads, flexter glutes,
do the same thing I did with the
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hands and the diamond cutter and the
hulk it up and all that, and
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their heart rates in less than a
minute while I'm talking, jump anywhere from
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twenty to fifty beats while I'm right
there. So now that's it, And
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I hope people hit pause on their
DVR and back that up and go forward
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and go back and go forward,
and they're going to say that DDP Yoga
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is a kick ass cardiovascular workout that
literally will dramatically increase your flexibility and strengthen
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your core like never before with minimal
joint impact. Unlike P ninety X,
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Unlike insanity, oh my god,
unlike crosspit all those workouts beat the f
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out of your body. My workout
heals your body, strengthen your body,
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like in your body. So that's
the kind of shit I'm doing now,
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and we are our workout. Our
new app when it finally comes out,
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will attach your heart rate into the
app. So you're gonna put like I
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have a guy right now who's you
know, full diabetic, full blown diabet
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because cholesterol cholesterol numbers are off the
hook. If you could create like this
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guy should be dead. That's that's
the step he's away from. But we've
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we've got all of this and we're
locking him completely into the system. So
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as he does his workouts, which
all come up as he how much fat
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he burns, how many calories he
burns off just with the workouts, what
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he's eating over that period of the
next six months to a year, Like
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Scott Hall came off eleven different medications. You know, if you if people
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are you know, if people say, oh, you know, I saw
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I put one up on DDP Yoga
Facebook about two months ago it said eating
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healthy is expensive on the one side. On the other side, it said,
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have you seen the cost of cancer, heart disease, diabetes lately?
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Yeah, I'm with you that.
I'm with you on that. I want
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to remind people that our guest is
former ww World Champion, taking Champion and
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many other championships, Diamond Dallas Page
And here's our guest today and we are
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live right now Friday December twenty seven, twenty thirteen, just about six o'clock
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Eastern and we are taking your phone
calls. Do you want to talk to
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DVP about DDP Yoga, especially if
you are an existing customer or have questions
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about the products. We certainly welcome
those calls every time he's on. Also
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ww memories or questions about ddp's career. I can talk about Scott Hall and
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Jake the Snake, Roberts, anything
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seven ninety two eight. Do you
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and receive even more benefits through Patreon. Back to dp DDP. Do you
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want if we take a couple of
book calls before you do. Let me
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put that over that audible audible book. I got the and if anybody wants
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any kind of setting goals that the
King, the Master, the gorgeous George,
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if you will, before Hulkogan,
before the Rock, before before everybody,
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was a guy named Napoleon Hill.
And Napoleon Hill wrote a book called
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Think and Grow Rich. He shadowed
Andrew Carnegie for twenty years. Andrew Carnegie,
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you know, would be top three
men wealth in the world for like
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forty years he was. He was
the guy. And this guy Napoleon Hill
459
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got to hang around from everyone from
Einstein to you know, to bring into
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JP Morgan, I mean. And
they talk about those times in a new
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version of the audio book for for
Napoleon Hill Think and Grow Rich. They
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also bring in today like he'll be
a thing on Steve Jobs, or they'll
463
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be there'll be something on somebody that's
relevant to you today. But I'm telling
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you the greatest most inspiring book ever
I and I do it on an audio
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book. I think it's awesome.
I pop it in. I don't.
466
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I can walk and do stuff or
be running through airport and still be listening
467
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and thinking and growing and the whole
deal, and I totally I do want
468
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to ask you too, did Hulk
Austin mit did Did they do their own
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audiobook or did they have someone read
theirs? You know what, I initially
470
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.760
looked up the wrestling books. I
think most of them were read by somebody
471
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else, but there were some cases
where the wrestler did read them. But
472
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I don't have it marked down on
my note which was which, but it
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does. When you go to audible
trial dot com slash progressing Torch, can
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you enter pro wrestling or the key
or the wrestler's name, it will say
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in the description. If they did, I would be surprised Mick didn't do
476
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it, because he's awesome. I
bet Mick did. In fact, I'm,
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you know, quite sure that his
book, his novel Taton Brown,
478
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is available and if I remember it, I think he did. Uh did
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read that aloud? So that that
that certainly would be fun to hear the
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day. Let me ask you before
we go on, did you have you
481
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ever seen Mick live on stage?
No? I haven't. Bruce Mitchell,
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00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.920
Torch columnist, did about a month
ago, and we did a significant length
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audio update the next day where Bruce
talked about that on the VP Bruce Mitchell
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Audio Show, and Bruce was a
big fan of the performance. And I
485
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am scheduled to see him, I
think in February, so I'll have a
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chance to see him live. You
you, you won't. You will not
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be disappointed anyone out there, if
you you are near, you're three hundred
488
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miles from a Foley show. And
bring someone who's not a wrestling fath because
489
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they're gonna love it too. Because
this is the way Mick does his delivery
490
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and everything, and he doesn't do
it every night, but many of the
491
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:20.159
nights he has different guests dress up
as me for the cookie story. And
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the way Leak does it is piss
your pants funny. It will never the
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book, never can never do the
book. How he rewrote it in his
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book and I wrote it in my
book as funny as that was. Yeah,
495
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.679
it can't. It can't do McK
foley live on stage and whoever he
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00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:45.119
brings in to do it pretty funny. Well, yeah, and Napoleon's boosted
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you said, ddpr are available on
audible dot com, So that comes with
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your highest recommendation, Napoleon Hill.
You can look that up in at audibletrial
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dot com. Splash browsing torch and
and check it out. That's awesome,
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excellent. I'm glad you mentioned that
we always appreciate. In fact, we're
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encouraging readers. I should say LISTENERSCI
to uh, listeners to call the show
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if you do, take advantage of
the audible trial and let us know what
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book you got and if you've enjoyed
in and recommend it and have a little,
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00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.480
you know, a little bit of
a book club here among pro wrestling
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fans, even if it's a non
pro wrestling book. Uh. Let's let's
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go in and grab a couple of
phone calls here and if you do want
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to get in line on the phone
banks, the number is six four six
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seven to one nine eight eight.
Diamon Dallas Page is my guest today.
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Let's go to our first call eery
code eight one six. Thanks so much
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for hoving. Please state your name
and where you're from. Travis from Kansas
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City. Hey, Travis, welcome
to the show. What have you got
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for GDP? First of all,
I wanted to tell you guys of it
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with my birthday to nightti Iman birthday. Definitely, thank you appreciate it.
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Not My question is if you're in
like a wheelchair of the Fiscal Booted Woman
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League. Can DVP be modified?
You know Arthur the disabled veteran, which
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I'm sure you saw the video,
he's been working on that. And this
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other woman, Terry who you know, she's a nurse, they've been working
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on that as well. I wouldn't. I would not go on to say
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that it could right now because I
don't know how to teach it, you
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know, I don't. I know
when I work with people, like when
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I work with Scott Hole in the
beginning and Jake both I used, I
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00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:34.000
used chairs for them to balance themselves. But there are so many things like
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00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.559
Terry and Arthur were showing it.
I'm saying, I'm not in a position
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where I'm I don't know enough about
it. Maybe you got to stop the
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00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.960
bags please. I don't know enough
about how to teach that. But I
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think as time goes on, we
will definitely adapt because the dynamic resistance can
527
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be done anywhere. And I think
we have to really get on the mat
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with some people who are in wheelchair
uh to really know and uh, it
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depends on if you're if you're uh, you know, uh. I came
530
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into the words it's not paralyzed paraplegic. I think with what we're doing,
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you know, as far as the
lower body, you have to have some
532
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sort of standing ability. But I
think in the chair, maybe there are
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things we can do. I just
think they're limited right now. I don't
534
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know enough about that. My friend, Okay, well does it become is
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00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:37.960
it become a lot of Bible the
updates beyond DVP yoga dot com. Pretty
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00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.119
much everything everything we're doing goes up
on our Facebook, anything that's going new
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00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.400
there. But you got to tell
you what if you want to go buy
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a team DDP yoga dot com,
anybody can join that and uh, We've
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got a lot of people come through
there and have been helped. We got
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a lot of people in muscular district
MS. Uh. You know, we
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got a lot of people that are
you know, uh five fibermyalgia. And
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then they get together in groups because
you know, you know, then they
543
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then they can help each other.
And that's why I developed that site,
544
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is for people to help each other. You know, I step in and
545
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try to motivate as much as I
can or inspire people. But you know,
546
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the people who come to that site
are looking for inspiration. Normally become
547
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:22.679
the most inspiring people on the site. Okay, thank you very much,
548
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.480
very appreciate it from me. Gun
absolutely all right, let's go to our
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next call, Eric code Stix,
so Die and six on nine. I
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please state your name and where you're
from. Oh it's the Lewis from New
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00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.559
Jersey. Hey Lewis, thanks to
Colin. What do you got for DDP
552
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.800
today? Well, we're going on
DDP big fan of yours and I know
553
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:46.159
you're from Jersey too, But I
got about three things, so I guess
554
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i'll ask and if you want to
write them down way just to remember,
555
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:57.960
yep, absolutely, yeah, okay, first thing we got in I'm inking
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it. Yeah, God, the
first thing. The first thing I got
557
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for you DP is that who were
the main catalysts behind your push in WCW
558
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.800
and when you finally did get your
push where you looked at by the guys
559
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.519
like, for example, the guys
that formed the radicals group in WWE.
560
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.320
Where you looked at as part of
the quote unquote in crowd as in did
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00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.880
you have heat as in like look
at getting you know, like you were
562
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:29.880
monopolizing it, or did you get
looked at as the guy that finally they
563
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gave one push when they weren't given
pushes to anybody. Number two hopefully you
564
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got that way, yep. Number
two was with the invasion angle in WWE.
565
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What were you happy with your initial
role, you know, being the
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stalker of the Undertaker and whatnot?
And where? How would you have done
567
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it different? What would you have
kept the same? And last or not
568
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.320
least? This is just like a
quick little throwaway question, but I have
569
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.760
to I mean, I could have
just googled this, but I have to
570
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ask. I mean I was a
big Kurt Cobain fan, so was your
571
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Did you you intentionally want the song
your theme song to be you know,
572
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:15.000
Kurt Cobain to be the smells like
teen Spirit song? Did you want it
573
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to be that? And who picked
it for you? Was it your fist?
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And that's pretty much it right now? Sorry, million questions, No
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one question's good range Hey, well
let me waitne let me answer the last
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one first, because that's the easiest
one. Of course, I knew that
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that song was in Song of the
nineties. And you got to remember how
578
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:39.400
where I was. I started as
a manager, I became a wrestler in
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ninety ninety one. I guess it
was. I tore my rotator cuff and
580
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.840
they let me go. I was
out of wrestling. You know, besides
581
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:54.320
doing independence for eleven months, I
changed the tattoos in my arms. If
582
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.360
you go back to nineteen ninety three, I challenge you to find anybody with
583
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really big tattoos, they didn't exist. Just like today, I can't look
584
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at a brother on a football playing
basketball or on a football team and not
585
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:15.599
think of Booker T. Before Booker
T had those dreads, no one had
586
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them. Nobody Booker like he influenced
God unbelievably. But you know, I
587
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:27.800
was recreating myself and I went from
the tats. I put on thirty pounds
588
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twenty five pounds. I went down
and met with Jimmy Hart, who Jimmy
589
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.000
Hart is actually as a number one
hit. You know, it ain't easy
590
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:42.360
yet the number one hit, but
with this band of gentries in the sixties,
591
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.880
he had a number one hit.
So Jimmy knows his music. And
592
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I told him the song that I
wanted, and they said, is it
593
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possible for us to make it sound
like it without them suing us? And
594
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.840
Jimmy's like, sure, alls we
have to do is reverse the beat and
595
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:07.320
in that lick that all that revisions, that beat is reversed, and then
596
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.920
I put on a self high five
and too cool, and ye know I
597
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.360
was just as cocky a heel as
I could be. And you know,
598
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:21.519
I never really got that character over
over those years because Page Joseph Froukenberg was
599
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:25.079
trying so hard to become this bigger
than life wrestling persona. You know that
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00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.480
what I thought a wrestler, you
know, or this wrestler was with all
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00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.239
the crazy gimmicks. I was just
reaching in anything and throwing paint up against
602
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the wall, and sometimes it looked
like a mess, you know, But
603
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.599
as time went on, I figured
it out. But that self high five,
604
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that was a winner. That was
a winner, and that music was
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00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.360
a winner, and it propelled me
through the nineties when it was finally you
606
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.159
know, it came. It was. It was a great, great,
607
00:45:55.239 --> 00:46:00.360
great ring music. I think I
can remember the first first one. I
608
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.000
don't remember the second one. Wait, I think the first one was who
609
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.039
helped me? What would my push? And I said? And then was
610
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:15.119
it accepted in the locker room?
I created my push from A to Z.
611
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.760
Nobody believed in me, nobody believed
that diamond Dallas page would ever be
612
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:29.920
anything but the most a semi mid
card performer. So when I met with
613
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.360
Johnny Ace, Johnny Lauren, iis
down. I'll lose it. What do
614
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.519
we got going here? Something about
our phone? We are reconnecting you now.
615
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.920
In twenty twelve, NXT transitioned into
the developmental system and ultimately the brand
616
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:52.360
you see today. On the Torch
VIP podcast NXT Eight Years Back, we'll
617
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:58.480
be taking a weekly look at this
page in NXT's early history. Joined Kelly
618
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.239
Wells and me Tom Stout from PWT
Talks NXT every Saturday as we go eight
619
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.079
years back to the day to track
NXT's rising talents and why they did or
620
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:15.719
didn't work out exclusively for PW Torch
VIP members. All right, we're back
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00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:22.960
after a brief connection there but DDP, you were talking about your theme music
622
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.519
and I think did you get to
the end of your end of your story
623
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:28.639
there? I wasn't the NFC music
and let me go back to dance this
624
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.320
beginning part again. Absolutely said who
helped you? Yeah, And in the
625
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.400
beginning of my career, and I'm
talking there was guys who helped me who
626
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.840
had nothing to do with what was
happening at WCW. I have to say
627
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.119
Jody Hamilton, the Assassin, he
told me I was going to be a
628
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.079
top guy if I kept doing what
I was doing, because he saw me
629
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.679
in my early days at the power
plant, and I stayed the power plant
630
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:59.039
for five years, so he saw
what was going on with me. Jake
631
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.679
Roberts told me I was going to
be a top guy. That's from ninety
632
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.280
three when I hadn't gone back to
WCW yet. Hulk Hogan in ninety four
633
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.519
would tell me, I'm going to
be a top guy if I keep doing
634
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:15.800
what I'm doing. And Dusty Rhodes
had told me around that same time.
635
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:20.280
So when you got four, you
probably don't know who Jody Hamilton was.
636
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.599
When he was a master, he
was the assassin number one. He drew
637
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:28.400
money on top for twenty five years. Everybody knows what Jake and Dusty and
638
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:35.000
Hogan has done. So what happened
was when I came back, everybody thought
639
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719
I was a joke. They never
thought I was going to be anything,
640
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.800
and that made me work five to
ten times harder. Now, Eric Bischoff
641
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:47.559
was my friend, and what Eric
Bischoff did for me was he protected me
642
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:54.199
in scenarios when guys tried to me
and in our business, it's like Rome,
643
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.679
you know, it's like Rome would
muscle. Nobody's actually stabbing you in
644
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.920
the back with a knife. But
you get stabbed in the back of knives
645
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.119
all the time. And you got
to know how to be political. And
646
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.800
you know, some guys are really
great at that. I think I'm pretty
647
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.199
good at that when it comes to
avoiding trouble for the most part. But
648
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.039
I'm not let any I'm not gonna
let anybody say to me he said,
649
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.519
she said bullshit. I would go
get those people and get in the room
650
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:29.280
with them and say, from what
this person says, you said this about
651
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.840
me, and you said I said
that about him, just like that,
652
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:39.079
And I could name time after time
after time, and because that was the
653
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.559
one, that's one thing like maybe
I would have been fired for doing that
654
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.079
if I wasn't friends with Bishop,
probably a good chance I would have been.
655
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.800
But nobody was going to meet to
my face. You want to be
656
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:52.880
behind my back. I don't know
it. Well, I don't know it,
657
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.000
but if I find out about it, you can bet your ask.
658
00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.760
I'm going to come up and to
confront you and not like, Hey,
659
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.920
moll, I'm just going to go
because I don't know that the world if
660
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.039
he said, she said, I
don't know exactly what happened because there's my
661
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.079
story, there's your story, and
then there's a story what really happened.
662
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.599
So that's how I view everything.
But I want to get to the bottom
663
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.880
of it to find out. So
when it came to the push and how
664
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.239
the push was go, if I
was to talk to Wade Keller about how
665
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.599
I was being held down and how
I worked around it, I could do
666
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.599
a fifteen hour show just on that, and I could get in that one
667
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:35.920
detail after another, and most of
them you know the thing and you know
668
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:39.480
what happened, but you don't know
how it happened and how it got there.
669
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:44.519
Well, and the one thing that
was the biggest part of Diamond Dall's
670
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:50.599
page ever becoming past the mid card
performer was a Diamond cutter. It started
671
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.440
with Johnny Ace been one of my
best friends since eighty eight. Johnny Lorenidis
672
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:59.639
stayed in my house one night.
He was leaving for Japan. The next
673
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.760
night, said why don't we go
to the power plant. I got this
674
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.360
new finish I want to show you, Johnny would grab his opponent with one
675
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.440
hand like Steve Austin would. He
would make the peace sign with the other
676
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:15.039
hand, and then he would kick
out and do the ace crusher, which
677
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.039
was I was going to use as
a diamond cutter. How I changed that
678
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.679
is I took my left hand and
wrapped it with my right in a move
679
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.559
that Stephen Riegal taught me called the
cravat. I put that cravat on you.
680
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:34.639
Unless you're the big show, you're
not going anywhere. And that was
681
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:39.679
a shoot hold and then a lah
Jake Roberts. At some point I started
682
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:45.280
to figure out, take the move
out of nowhere. Now when I'm supposed
683
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.519
to be getting my push, And
I'm going to tell you one of those
684
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.719
behind the scenes stories. Now when
I'm supposed to be getting my push we
685
00:51:53.920 --> 00:52:02.480
were? When was when was the
Dwade You might remember this. When was
686
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.920
Slamburree where I won the Battle Bowl. Do you remember what year that was?
687
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:13.800
That ninety five or ninety six?
I don't know right off, but
688
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:19.280
I think I think it was ninety
six. I think it was ninety six
689
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.639
to two. Yeah, Yeah,
the more I think about it, just
690
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:28.920
based on Nitel's timeline and everything.
Okay, so whoever wins the and they
691
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.239
did it before King of the Ring. This King of the Ring because they
692
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.960
were doing battle Bowl. The first
one to win that was Dusty Rhodes.
693
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:42.119
Uh it before, but of course
WWE they trademarked that. Yeah, so
694
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.800
it was never done again after this, and after this they couldn't even call
695
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.880
it battle Bowl because it was too
close to Kick of the Ring and what
696
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:53.719
the deal was supposed to be.
I'm being told this over the time the
697
00:52:53.760 --> 00:53:00.199
Olympics were going on in Florida,
and I'm being told and I almost I'm
698
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.800
gonna say, is the booker because
the bookers at times I fucking I hate
699
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:07.480
them so much I want to strangle
them all, and other times I love
700
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.599
them. And today I've let all
this shit go. I'm I'll never let
701
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.000
the feelings go. But I hold
no feelings against anyone who had the book,
702
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.199
whoever did at the time. And
I'm in my almost sixties now,
703
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:22.239
I love the stories, but I
do still live the adversity with passion when
704
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.360
I tell the stories. So this
is that we're clear on that. And
705
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:31.679
I love those guys now. But
at the time I was told that at
706
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.480
the end of that match, and
we're two months out before Slammerrie. It's
707
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:43.719
going to be me, Savage and
Flare and I'm going to get thrown over
708
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:47.320
the top rope. You're going to
skim the floor. This is way before
709
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:51.039
we knew Austin was going to skim
the floor and King of the Ring too,
710
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.280
and we were running neck and neck
ups around there. Skim the floor,
711
00:53:54.800 --> 00:54:04.079
pull myself up on the apron,
slide myself in, and Flair was
712
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.000
going to go to Figure four match
March. When he went to make the
713
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:07.960
turn, was gonna kick him in
the ass. He's going to take a
714
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.199
bump over the top rope. Savage
was going to get his hand raised.
715
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.840
I was going to slide in,
hit him with a diamond cutter and win
716
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:21.559
battle Ball. That's how it was
supposed to go. Now when it gets
717
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.599
to three weeks out, oh no, brother, we can't. We can't
718
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:30.440
do that because you know Flare's gonna
angle with with Savage. Well, Rick
719
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.679
was in that in an angle with
that for absolutely everyone from sting dog into
720
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.559
to the butler. I don't know. It wasn't angle with everybody so yo,
721
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.239
But that's why it was told to
be originally we couldn't do it.
722
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.599
So I was like, no problem, this is going to be an opportunity
723
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:47.599
to really do something. You know, Well, who's going to be in
724
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:52.559
it? Well, we don't know
right now. So now let's fast forward
725
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:58.199
to the night before the pay per
view and I'm sitting outside having a beer
726
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:04.840
with Canyon at my in my backyard
and he says, so date, who's
727
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.400
going to be into battle Ball?
Who's going to be the top eight?
728
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:08.960
And for those of you who don't
know what battle Ball was, it was
729
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:17.119
tag teams all set up to have
four tag team winners, and then those
730
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:22.840
four tag team winners or should say
eight because it's tag team, those eight
731
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:29.519
guys would all compete to see who's
the battle Bowl Champion get the battle bull
732
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.599
ring, and then that person would
have his shot at the next pay per
733
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:38.000
view at the heavyweight champion in the
world. Invite you to email the show
734
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:43.760
with feedback or questions or comments.
That email address is Wade Keller Podcast at
735
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.760
ptew torch dot com. That's Wadekeller
Podcast at PW torch dot com. Also
736
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:52.679
welcome your feedback on Twitter. You
can follow us on Twitter at PW torch
737
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.679
and follow me at the wade Keller. That's at PW Torch and at the
738
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:07.079
Wade Keller. So Canon said,
who's going to be there? Who are
739
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.400
the top to eight guys? I
go, I don't know. He goes,
740
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.079
well, who's the top for four
guys? I said, I don't
741
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.400
know. He goes, all right, Well, screw it. Let's come
742
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:21.119
up with a finish without them.
And out of that came the diamond cutters
743
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.559
finish that what we did and what
happened was and this is going to be
744
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.599
confusing, so get out your pen
and piece of paper if you really give
745
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.599
a shit, or go back and
look at it. Let's just say there's
746
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:38.360
five entities. I'm number one,
number two, and number three would be
747
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.400
explain it. I can't explain to
the bottom of everybody's going to get diamond
748
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.519
cut at the end, and I'll
explain how it all goes as we move
749
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:50.360
forward when you know who the players
are. So we've got this figure out
750
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.480
where I want to hit three people
with diamond cutters, and the third guy
751
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.639
I hit, I cover him one
two three, the second guy cover one
752
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:01.199
two three, the first guy I
it, he kicks out. We go
753
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:06.159
through a series of finishes and then
he ends up, you know, coming
754
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:07.280
at me, and I ducked him
and throw him over the top rope and
755
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:13.079
I went So that's basically the idea, but it also gets the Diamond Cutter
756
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:17.440
over too as well. So now
I got the finish at least I got
757
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:24.400
an idea of the finish in my
head. And I go to the main
758
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:29.039
booker. I go, so,
bro, what are we doing? I
759
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.400
know, I got two other matches
before this. You know who's who are
760
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:35.840
going to be the top four guys? I don't know yet. Well,
761
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:37.360
and then I start going down the
list. You know it is Luger going
762
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.760
to be there? Is you know
s thing going to be there? Is
763
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.400
this one? Is that one?
Is the World Warriors? Are they going
764
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.800
to be there? You know who's
going to be you know? Then later
765
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:51.079
on is Ben going to be in
there? Is Eddie going to be in
766
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.480
there? Garrera? I mean,
I'm just like naming names at this point.
767
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.360
Still no, No, I don't
know, I don't I don't know.
768
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.199
Finally it's now I've got We're I'm
ready to start to pay per view.
769
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:05.840
I don't know who the top four
guys are, so I can't even
770
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.920
latest finish out in my head,
you know, just to figure out because
771
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:14.920
now you're talking about being really political. Here's how I'm going to beat you,
772
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.880
you know. But that's not how
it's supposed to happen. The agent
773
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.320
is supposed to come in and go, okay, guys, tonight's DDPS night.
774
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.440
I'll get to that in a second, because just so you know how
775
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:30.039
this was handled. So I know, I've got my first match set up,
776
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.320
we don't know who our second match
is with, and I'm tagging with
777
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:39.679
Barbarian that's my partner, and so
we get you know, I finally grabbed
778
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:45.079
the booker and I go, listen, bro, how about this finish?
779
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.519
And I give it to him with
numbers, not even people's names, and
780
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.079
he goes, oh, oh yeah, yeah, that's a great finish.
781
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:53.400
Okay, yeah, we'll do that. We'll do that. I go,
782
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.840
okay, okay, So least I
can get that cro off my mind because
783
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.679
I got two other matches and two
other finishes with false finishes and all the
784
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:07.599
other between it. So it's a
busy day. So I get to where
785
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.199
we're just getting ready for the TV, maybe about forty five minutes half hour
786
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.800
out, and I get pulled into
the booking room where the agents are,
787
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.320
and they're going to give you the
finish and tell you what you want to
788
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.119
do. Now, they always ask
me, you know, what do I
789
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.880
want to do for the finish,
and lately I hadn't been asking them because
790
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:34.719
when I would tell them, they
would turn it around and me with it.
791
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:37.920
Oh yeah, that's what Diamond wants
to do. There like instead of
792
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:39.280
no, no, no, you
asked me the question. Don't ask me
793
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.679
what I want to do and then
tell me you're going to go and tell
794
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.280
them. So now I'm not going
to tell you. I'm not going to
795
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:47.320
tell you what so you can put
me between a rock and a hard place.
796
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:53.039
So and believe this is nineteen ninety
six. There's one thing getting over
797
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:58.679
right now, the Diamond cutter.
Because I ain't wrestling nobody, and I
798
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.800
ain't had any kind of shit.
If anything, this is going to be
799
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:09.199
semi it. So let's see.
So the agent says to me, what
800
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:13.480
would you like to do? I
said, okay, what do you think
801
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:19.440
about this? And I gave him
that finish and that finish was to get
802
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:25.599
DVP over finish and he went,
well, uh, well, let me
803
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:31.119
talk to the booker and I know
I just seen him, but now he's
804
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.360
going to go talk to him,
and that means that this finish could be
805
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:38.039
changing. But right there, the
booker walked in and I grabbed him and
806
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.440
went, hey, bro, I
go, I just told him about the
807
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.119
double finish, triple Diamond cutter,
blah blah blah. He kicks out.
808
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.840
We go into the dose doughty and
he goes over to the top rope.
809
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:54.119
I go, is that cool?
And they both look at each other and
810
01:00:54.159 --> 01:01:00.280
he goes, joah yah. He
walks out the door. Now this is
811
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:07.800
what's supposed to happen. That agent
grabs all eight guys and he says,
812
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.199
okay, guys, this is how
it's gonna go. Everybody knows Diamond is
813
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:15.360
going over tonight. You guys,
get your shit in, but you get
814
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:22.800
him over. This is his night
now being an outsider but still being an
815
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.880
insider. Wait, would I be
wrong about saying that at all? I
816
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.480
don't think though, No, no, because that's how it's done. He
817
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:37.119
says, I've been the other guy. Get Steamboat over, Get get whoever
818
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.119
Tom Brady over, get some will
get you DDP, get him over,
819
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.880
get your shit in, but you
get him over. So that's what I
820
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:52.400
know is supposed to happen next.
And after the booker walked out the door,
821
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:57.079
the agent looked at me and he
said, well, he goes,
822
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.079
you know to finish better than I
do. You're gonna tell the boy.
823
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.320
So now I get to go tell
all the guys how I'm going to beat
824
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.039
them. There's no heat that comes
with that, is there? Right?
825
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:14.719
Well, they're just so happens that
out of those eight guys, four of
826
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:22.639
them I got jobs for like I
got them their job and actually say thirty
827
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:30.400
four guys who lived the dream.
I personally got them their jobs because I
828
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:35.119
fucking would help anybody I kid could
who had the passion and the talent.
829
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.840
So those three guys, for the
three were in the top. They were
830
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:45.079
no problem at all. And it
ends with here's how the finish is going
831
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.079
to go. I slide in and
Johnny gruns he is taking a nutshot there
832
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.280
he's laying up in the ropes.
I pull myself in. As soon as
833
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.280
he goes to pull himself up,
boom, I hit him with a diamond
834
01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:00.440
cutter, Barbarian and ice train.
Remember ice train, Yeah, they double
835
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.559
closed line. I believe it's something
like this, I could be wrong to
836
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:06.840
the exact this how I remember it
my head. So if you got the
837
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.519
video on, maybe it's not exactly
like this, but it's pretty close.
838
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:15.039
They closed line Bobby over. Bobby's
gone. Probably one of the greatest guys
839
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.280
ever in our business. By the
way, Bobby Eaton and yeah, the
840
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:22.280
double heels, they both raise each
other's arms, and then the one heel
841
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.679
turns and closes the lines to the
other heel. Right. Yeah, as
842
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:30.679
he's getting ready to do that,
I grab train and close line him two
843
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.119
down. I mean I I diamond
cut him two down. Then Bob goes
844
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.400
to do sutting me and I duck
it and I take him down with Donald
845
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:43.320
cutter. I cover Johnny one two
three, he's out. Oh, by
846
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:46.599
the way, Dusty Rhodes, I
have to digress here. Dusty Rhodes is
847
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:52.360
doing color right now, and Dusty's
my guy. Okay. If Dusty was
848
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.159
booking, i'd have had a crazy
push way longer, and then people really
849
01:03:55.199 --> 01:04:00.119
could have bitched about my push because
he'dn't giving me a hell of a push.
850
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:04.519
I was ready. Long story short. Before I go out there,
851
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:10.320
say to Jody Hamilton, who's in
the Gorilla spot, I said, Joey,
852
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.920
I just listened to announce the matches
and who's coming out, but they
853
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:24.000
didn't say anything about pinfall, submission
or over the top rope. That's this
854
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:28.519
match. This is the match before
the main event. This sets up next
855
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.440
month's man event. That's what's up. There's supposed to be a lot of
856
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:35.679
stant there's not just over the top
rope. It's all three so that man
857
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:45.440
that changes everything. So Dusty's only
nose over the top rope. So when
858
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:51.880
I hit when I hit grunge with
the with the cutter, I hit the
859
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.280
trade with the cutter that I hit, Barb, Dusty's freaking out. Oh
860
01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.800
my god, the greatest, the
greatest fas of all time. Oh my
861
01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:01.159
god, how're they going to get
him over the top rope though they're a
862
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.360
dead weight, How're they going to
get him over the top rope? I
863
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.000
slid on top of him. One
two three, he goes, that's how
864
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:11.239
one two three out, and then
dust he just picked up like he knew
865
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.079
but he knew nothing. He just
flipped the script and went with what was
866
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.400
happening. Then I covered frigging train
one two three, Barb, of course
867
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.719
he kicked out we went through a
series. I said, now I'm telling
868
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:26.000
him this in the back, that's
how we're going to do it. And
869
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.119
I look at bar but I go, then you kick out barb and then
870
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.400
we go through a succession that falls
finishes, and then you go throw me
871
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:36.679
in a turnbuckle. I shoots around
and you go over the top rope and
872
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:43.480
he just looks at me. Now, for anybody listening, notably the two
873
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.760
everybody you've heard about bad you know, the special wrestling, who they are
874
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:53.519
blah blah blah. Number one and
number two would be Ming and Barbarian.
875
01:05:54.239 --> 01:06:00.239
Yes, like everyone else, Okay, to top tops of the bit is,
876
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:03.480
but ringing Barbarian like they were on
their own planet. That's kind of
877
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:09.119
respect from the boys they had.
So I'm telling Barr but I think it
878
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.719
is my friend. But you know, you don't know, especially in this
879
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:16.960
scenario, you don't know. I
felt I really did. But I'm looking
880
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:23.280
at him and I tell him it
and he ain't saying nothing, and we're
881
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:30.400
face to face and then he says, no, Brad, and I'm like
882
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.800
my stomach just went like oh.
And then he says, I take your
883
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:39.599
finish. I go, bar if
you don't have to do that, bro,
884
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.079
you already took it. You kicked
out. Man, go over to
885
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.679
top, he goes, No,
Brad, he goes, it's your time.
886
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:50.880
I take your finish. And I'm
not afraid to say I had little
887
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:56.119
tear came out my eye. He
gave me a big hug, Man.
888
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.280
That was That was a moment for
me. That was a pivotal moment,
889
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:03.599
Mike, in my life and in
my career because I've always treated barb like
890
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:10.159
aces, always had, always will. He always treated my ex wife like
891
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.400
that too, So I mean,
it was just a relationship that me and
892
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:17.159
him had that I never really didn't
you don't know, you know, but
893
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:23.400
to go out there and then to
do that. Now you heard the top
894
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.320
four guys. I was trained Barbarian
Bobby Eaton at the end of his prime.
895
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.440
Bobby only wrestled in the year or
two after that, I think,
896
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:34.719
and Johnny grunge Roco had just gotten
knocked out before that. Who do you
897
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:41.000
think was in that top eight when
Dusty Rose won that Bowl? Do you
898
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:45.000
think anybody was under like top top, top, top top guy, no
899
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.960
or sting when he wanted when he
wanted. Do you think there was anybody
900
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:54.920
in there that wasn't Rick Flair,
Lex Luga Road Wars. Think there was
901
01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:00.119
anybody in there won that caliber?
Right, So look that called let's give
902
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:04.960
him a push. Oh yeah,
let's even let him win. Yep.
903
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:15.720
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904
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.960
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905
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:26.000
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Okay, so this is what I'm talking
910
01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:59.520
about when you talk when people say, so the push you got, Yeah,
911
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.880
give us an example. I've got
so many. I could wait seriously
912
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.560
until fifteen hours and then we start
to you know, really get into it.
913
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:11.039
Yeah. I mean into arguments that
I would have in the booking meeting
914
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:15.920
sometimes, and I mean like getting
loud, loud on the edge of seats
915
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.640
and times. Yeah, because I
ain't afraid of nobody kick my hand.
916
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.479
I'll you fuck yo. I ain't
gonna not stand up. Fuck that.
917
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:28.840
Not when I worked this hard and
you go into my face, I'll call
918
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:33.560
you want it and I d if. I'll jump in and say two that
919
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.880
if people enjoy this story, because
that's great detail, and I think your
920
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.479
members are pretty accurate in terms of
even the stuff you weren't sure on,
921
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:46.239
at least as it matches up to
mind. Fourteen installments of Marathon torchtok we
922
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.399
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01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:55.039
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many subjects that we covered when we
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is a fascinating story and behind the
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the way through your peak run in
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957
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.000
this interview with DP, be sure
to check that out. I wanted to
958
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.840
sneak that in DDP because I know
there's a lot of a lot of stories
959
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.800
you told like that in that torch
Stalk, and I know you're proud of
960
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:26.359
that interview, you know, and
and I'll tell people out there back in
961
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.640
the eighties, you know, when
I came into this, there was two
962
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:41.000
guys, Dave Meltzer Wade Keller.
Those were the two guys that really knew
963
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:46.880
the guys and and got Sometimes I'd
say, do you know that way like
964
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:50.600
I don't know it. I was
in the meeting. How does he know?
965
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.359
And you know, and it would
be right there was there was things
966
01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:58.760
like everybody would like, oh,
I don't ever read the sheets. Everybody
967
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:05.399
read the torch. Everybody there around
there were somebody's bag. You know,
968
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:09.159
it went from one bag to another. You know, it's you know,
969
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:13.680
it's uh before the internet. You
know, Steve Boston was. I interviewed
970
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:15.880
Steve Boston a couple months ago on
the show and he said the same thing.
971
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:17.880
He's like, you know, I'm
I'm like, I'm not going to
972
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:19.680
read those He's like, you know, I don't know if I should be
973
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:21.840
reading these sheets. And he's like, oh, everybody else is okay.
974
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:24.880
I guess it's okay to read them. Uh. You know, every every
975
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.479
wrestler has their story about about that, and you know it's taboo. But
976
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.920
then you know in your inner circle. Someone's got it on a car ride
977
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:32.800
and they pull it out and gets
passed around and that kind of thing.
978
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:36.159
Back again, there was note.
Now it's like put it on Twitter.
979
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:41.000
It's everywhere. Catch it here,
catch it there's in which which you did
980
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:45.279
with that, and how you took
it to this whole Like, I mean,
981
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:49.520
there's so much information there today.
It's mind boggling, really, I
982
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.520
mean, especially if a kid came
in. I made some of these kids.
983
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.439
They come up to me at these
signings or a mat or come up
984
01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:58.960
to me. I was in I
was in eight and dinner at North Georgia
985
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:01.000
last two nights ago. This kid
came up to me. Man, you
986
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:04.680
he was one of my biggest fans
ever. He was fourteen, which means
987
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:09.520
he never saw me Russell wise.
Yeah, yeah, oh you saw me
988
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:13.279
with she Slater with a diamond color. But after that, it's all the
989
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:16.399
YouTube and all the stuff that's out
there that they read. It's really crazy.
990
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:21.239
Yeah. Well, I get feedback
every day from people, including people
991
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:25.239
who are like I can go on
the Internet and there's so much information and
992
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:27.800
I just you know, put it
off and put it off and put it
993
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.479
off. But finally you know what
it was Steve Austin talking to me a
994
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.560
couple months ago about the Torch or
what you're saying now, or one of
995
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:36.640
my plugs or whatever it is,
worried about whatever it is that gets people
996
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to try it, I inevitably,
and it's it's one of my favorite parts
997
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of the day when that email comes
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999
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and they're just like, you've You've
earned my business for life. This
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is incredible. I had I known
that this type of coverage was available at
1001
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this level behind the paywall. You
know, you get what you pay for,
1002
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:00.279
and there's a reason that we try
charge for it so that I can
1003
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.640
dedicate my full time living to doing
it. You know, the free sites,
1004
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:09.039
it's it's a different situation. It's
a different setup. I can charge
1005
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:12.279
for what we do. We've got
a great staff and contributors, led by
1006
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.680
senior Torch columnist Bruce Mitchell, and
we can charge there. Every paid member
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people who, because we charge for
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more resources into it, and we've
got unmatched experience. So anyway, don't
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01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:35.840
don't want to get into a long
plug that Preak qualifies already as a long
1013
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:41.640
plug. DDP. Did you talk
about the invasion angle with a stalker because
1014
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:43.720
I know I cut out for a
minute when we had the technical problem.
1015
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.520
No, I didn't mention that.
In a nutshell, I pretty much give
1016
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:51.319
my relationship is so awesome when WWE
now, it's really amazing. Yeah,
1017
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:57.920
I had this relationship when I was
there the first time. Hunter actually brought
1018
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:02.199
me into the WWEP see the performance
center to work with the guys and gals
1019
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.479
ol in there, and they love
the program. Everybody came up to me
1020
01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:08.560
and asked me if because I brought
up part myself. But you got to
1021
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:10.960
come up to me and ask me
for it, because I'm not just gonna
1022
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:13.960
give it to you. You want
it, I'll give it to you as
1023
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.000
long as you're going to do it. And uh so, uh, you
1024
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.840
know, Ben Hunter set that whole
thing up, you know, so uh
1025
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.920
you know, the relationships really awesome. I think at that time when I
1026
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:27.159
went in there, there was a
point to be proven, and the point
1027
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.560
was to be proven that, you
know, the best of w c W
1028
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.920
couldn't really match up with the best
of WWE. And me and Taker we
1029
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:38.760
didn't mix, you know, we
didn't. And now I think it may
1030
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:41.840
have been designed that way or not, it's irrelevant to me. I think
1031
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.039
today, if I ever got the
ring with them, we would tear it
1032
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.199
down, you know, not really
like today. But we go back in
1033
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:53.159
time and it was today, I
think we would really torn it down together.
1034
01:16:53.680 --> 01:17:00.039
But I wish I would have done
the this is this is like I
1035
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:01.720
wish it. I don't wish.
I wish I would have done the People's
1036
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.079
Champion versus People's Champion angle because that
would have been so money. And of
1037
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:12.159
course me and Rock, right,
we had the real angle. And Rock
1038
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:17.840
is the hottest actor in Hollywood and
he's our guy. Yeah, I mean,
1039
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:23.399
what an unbelievable I mean, I
couldn't no one could say anything bad
1040
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:28.239
about the Rock around me because you're
I'm want to bust their balls big time
1041
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:33.199
because the Rock keeps coming back with
us and he's a part of us and
1042
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:38.359
always will be. And he's the
biggest star in the world. That looks
1043
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:44.279
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Pw torch dot com slash go vi
ip. But here's what I learned because
1053
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.000
I came in there. We talked
about goals. It's a great way to
1054
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:34.439
seguey out of this. Yes,
me about setting goals. I met the
1055
01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:39.560
Rock two years before I came in, and I was with the Big Show
1056
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.680
and I was at a show that
they were at and we were wrestling in
1057
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.760
a pay per view the next night, so I'd come in early and me
1058
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.640
and Big show best friends. I
raised them in the business. I pulled
1059
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:54.600
them up and brought him to you
know, the power Plant. I trained
1060
01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:58.039
him and got him ready for Hogan
because I was always down to power Plant
1061
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:01.800
when I wasn't working on the road. And that's really I wasn't working that
1062
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:10.239
much back then on the road.
So the goal setting when we were when
1063
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:14.479
we were in there, the Rock
and I had a great conversation and I
1064
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.840
was explaining to him that I saw
him doing an interview where he said,
1065
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:23.960
you know, the rock this and
the Rock that, and then he went
1066
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.119
back he was Dwayne Johnson, and
then he went to Rock this and the
1067
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:29.159
Rock that, and then he came
back. I said, I love the
1068
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.520
way you went back and forth with
that. It was really entertaining and man,
1069
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:35.359
and at the time I was above
him. He was on that rock
1070
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:40.039
and headed for the stratosphere. But
he hadn't passed me yet, you know,
1071
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.359
so there was still there was still
a big level of respect on both
1072
01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.760
levels. And as I was walking
out of the locker room, I hear
1073
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:55.840
hey, Diamond, and the voice
is completely changed now. And I'm just
1074
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.920
about that down the hallway and out
of this huge locker room at the skydill
1075
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.680
And in Toronto, and Big Show
leans out of my way so I can
1076
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:08.760
see him, and there he is. He's this is in his Versace fifteen
1077
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:14.079
dollars Versachi shirt face. He's rolling
on one of those shirts and you can
1078
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:21.640
just tell he's winding up. And
he says, you know, there's only
1079
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:27.600
one people's champion. And Big Show
almost showed blew agast and he's like,
1080
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:30.720
oh my god, now, oh
oh that was Oh my god, he
1081
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:39.439
killed you. And I just stood
there and I stared at him and I
1082
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:43.520
said, you know, Rock,
you're right, and you my friend,
1083
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:47.920
well you're looking at him. Oh. I went out the door. Didn't
1084
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.640
give me a chance to say shit. The eyebrow went up and Big Show
1085
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:56.439
sold it huge. I mean,
oh god. He was like, nobody
1086
01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:00.399
stops him. Oh my god,
nobody does that to him. So I
1087
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.960
went back that night to the hotel
room. I wrote Kimberly up. I
1088
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.479
told her how I was going to
show up at a WWF and she's like,
1089
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:11.640
what, I just signed a multimillion
dollar three year deal. WWWCW is
1090
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.079
like, but I'm not going to
stay here when it's done. I have
1091
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.359
to end there. And I came
up with this way where this whole thing
1092
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:21.039
that night, I came up with
this whole idea. You have turn off
1093
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:25.159
all the lights in the building.
You know everybody's going to get its course.
1094
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:30.720
Chris Jericho and No Jericho. Now
it's like twenty seconds, thirty seconds.
1095
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:34.000
Jim Ross is like, hold on, people who've got some technical difficulty.
1096
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:39.119
And then for the first time ever, you hear my voice and alls
1097
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:45.640
you hear me say, is who's
the real people's champion? And then a
1098
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:53.720
spin spotlight on my face and the
crowd would have went bizark and throw my
1099
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.960
hands up in a diamond cutter sign, and I go, you're looking at
1100
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.840
him. I go to the ring
and I'm animating this whole story, passion
1101
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:09.840
vision. I can see it.
I go and Kim's like, wow,
1102
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:14.159
Wow, what do you She's always
told I'm like living this like it's really
1103
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.800
happened. I go to the ring. I go, Rock is hurt or
1104
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.560
you know they pulled them out for
a couple of weeks, or or he's
1105
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:24.680
filming a movie that wasn't filming movies
back then. Of course, today's the
1106
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:29.560
biggest figured action star in the world, but back then he wasn't filming movies.
1107
01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:34.600
Freaking But it was in my head. This is about envisioning a reality.
1108
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:40.920
When I come to that meeting with
Vince McMahon that day, that's in
1109
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:44.159
my mind. But I know they
already have something for me, so I
1110
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:47.560
know I have an open mind,
but you're gonna push this well. They
1111
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:54.399
were so passionate about the stalker angles, and now I know for good reason.
1112
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.520
You know, when I it's the
first time ever, wait, in
1113
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:05.319
my life, I let someone shift
my goal. They shifted me off of
1114
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:10.600
it because if they're passion to tell
me this, And when I did pitch
1115
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.359
it to them, I pitched it
like it was aside another idea, but
1116
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:17.199
they went back to this idea.
Now here's what I should have done,
1117
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:21.840
and I learned this from that meeting. I should have said, Vince,
1118
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.840
thank you very much for the opportunity, Shane's the pleasure to meet you.
1119
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:30.159
When you guys want to do people
champion versus people's champion, call me and
1120
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:34.600
walked out the door. But I
didn't do that. As we know now,
1121
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:43.279
what did I learn from that?
Don't ever ever named the first number,
1122
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:51.640
don't meaning money or terms to a
deal, don't ever agree to anything
1123
01:23:53.239 --> 01:24:00.000
the first time. Now since I
have done that said in the beginning,
1124
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:09.239
I've amassed more fortune than I did
in wrestling. And I said this,
1125
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.439
I know I said it to you
years before, my friend. At some
1126
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:20.239
point, DDP Yoga will be a
household name, and right around that time
1127
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:27.960
or before that, it's gonna dwarf
when I did in professional wrestling. How
1128
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:30.159
what are the chances we see though? What you said, you don't really
1129
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:34.600
want to call an intomercial per se, but uh, a program that's raising
1130
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.359
awareness for DDP Yoga on television late
night when people are you know, typically
1131
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:43.840
in the mood for that kind of
thing. Well, that that's what we're
1132
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:47.960
testing out right now. That where
I want it. Not this airing coming
1133
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:51.319
up this week. When it airs
the following week, I hope to have
1134
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:56.680
my the the app thing up on
the up on the screen so you can
1135
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.399
see the heart. It's just the
part for the heart monitor, so you
1136
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:03.119
can see the ray go from eighty
eighty five, ninety ninety four, one
1137
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:08.399
oh four one sixteen one two one
twenty eight. Wait a minute, they're
1138
01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:13.199
just standing there. Oh, and
they're strengthening and lengthen because you're not just
1139
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:19.039
stretching with DDP yoga. Your strengthening
and your lengthening not just your muscles,
1140
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:29.000
your tendons and your your tendons and
your ligaments, so that your strengthening.
1141
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:32.760
So if you slip and fall down
two stairs, you're not crippled around for
1142
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:36.680
a month or six months. You'll
probably get back up and go, oh
1143
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:43.479
boy, glad I did my workout
today, because that's how fast you bounced
1144
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:49.159
back. Look at the most flexible
man in professional wrestling three letters, and
1145
01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:58.319
it's not DDP, it's RVD.
RVD twenty five years wrestlings to day with
1146
01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:00.399
seventeen he's now going to be forty. I think he just turned forty three.
1147
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:10.600
That's twenty six years of one of
the most impacting wrestlers ever. And
1148
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:14.239
the wear and tear that RBD is
put on his body. How is it
1149
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:23.680
possible that he's had one single injury
his knee, one single injury in twenty
1150
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:30.439
six years. Yeah, he's flexible, crazy flexible, but his scores strength
1151
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:35.119
is crazy flexible, and his tendons
and his ligaments are crazy, flexible,
1152
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:46.239
and strong. Every Sunday night,
catch Wrestling Night in America on PW Torchdailycast
1153
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:50.399
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1154
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:54.279
welcome a co host from the Torch
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1155
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:58.279
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1156
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.119
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1157
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:03.560
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1158
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:05.920
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1159
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:12.000
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1160
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:15.359
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1161
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:18.840
Search PW Torch and Apple Podcasts or
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1162
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:35.560
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dot Com. Go again back. Don't
1163
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:41.439
we're closing out with there. Don't
let anyone take you off your goal.
1164
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:45.199
Don't let anyone take you off your
vision. When if you set that,
1165
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:50.279
let's call it a New Year's resolution. Own it, yep, write it.
1166
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:56.119
Down. Set yourself up to win, don't set yourself up to fail.
1167
01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:00.319
Here's the three things if you're setting
goals in life that think like a
1168
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.079
champion. This is from Donald Trump's
book, and I agree everything he says,
1169
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:11.920
and it's originally from Napoleon Hill.
Number one, know your craft.
1170
01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:15.720
Know whatever it is you're doing,
whether it's professional wrestling to running a pay
1171
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:20.279
wrestling site, to being a doctor
to being a lawyer. I don't care
1172
01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:26.800
what musician, actor you name it, it all applies. Know your craft
1173
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:31.600
or be on your way to knowing
your craft as good or better than anyone.
1174
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:36.199
Number two, you gotta love it. You gotta love it so much
1175
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:43.039
you be willing to do it for
nothing, for nothing because you love it
1176
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:47.720
that much. And number three,
don't quit, don't ever quit. Notice
1177
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.680
you can't go to the wall.
Go bam, bam bam. I'm gonna
1178
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:53.960
get through that wall. I'm gonna
get through that wall. I'm gonna get
1179
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:58.600
through that wall. You should quit. You need to figure out you need
1180
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.199
maybe go over the wall, under
the wall, Maybe take another hike around
1181
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:06.079
the wall. Oh it's two more
miles, too fucking bad. That's how
1182
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:11.439
you're going to get there. Because
you ain't going through that wall. God
1183
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:15.000
doesn't put walls in front of us
to keep us out. God puts walls
1184
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.520
in front of us to make us
realize how much we want it. So
1185
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.079
let me ask you a question.
To you, Wade, are you living
1186
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:27.319
the dream? Oh? Yeah,
definitely, damn right. You are live
1187
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.399
in the dream. Man. I've
never known anything but live in the dream.
1188
01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:34.399
And anyone who's listened living the dream
means this, find me something that
1189
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:40.399
you love to do and figure out
a way get someone to pay you to
1190
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:44.439
do it. Just so you can
really understand what Wade Keller is doing and
1191
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:48.600
what a handful of other guys followed
him doing. But he was one of,
1192
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:54.239
if not the very first guy that
had to figure out how to get
1193
01:29:54.279 --> 01:30:00.279
paid to live my dream and do
it better than anybody. I been the
1194
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:02.359
dream on a whole different level.
Man, DC, how are you on
1195
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:04.960
time? Do we have time for
a call and a couple of VIP subjects
1196
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:08.439
or do you got to run?
See I got about fifteen more minutes.
1197
01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:11.279
That's perfect, That's what I got
too. So let's let's take one more
1198
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.039
call and we'll wrap up the free
show. We'll do a little extra for
1199
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.119
VIP members. I want to talk
about Scott Hall, Jake Roberts and I
1200
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:19.000
also in the VFP after show,
DDP want to talk about the Performance Center
1201
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:23.720
compared to the power Plant. We've
got gotten questions about that. You were
1202
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.880
at both, so I think that's
a fascinating topic. But let's need one
1203
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:30.279
more call in here on the free
live cast area code six oh one.
1204
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:34.720
Thank you for holding please state tournament. Where you're from Heywaye and Dallas is
1205
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:38.640
the stars and Robinson from Jackson to
city. How y'all doing doing good?
1206
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:42.840
Kevin? Thanks for calling? What
have you got for DDP? Uh downd
1207
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:46.279
Dallas years ago? When it was
years ago when you come down to Jacksonsissippi.
1208
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:50.520
I remember after every match you came
out you had here a wrap on
1209
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:58.520
your back and ice packed. How
you angiea peck? Let's see the reason
1210
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.960
is leading my next question. It's
a person I wish you could reach out
1211
01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.880
to and help him. He need
some help since you help so many people
1212
01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:08.479
rich the Stained Boat and that's what
I want to get your thoughts about that.
1213
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.199
And also you forgot about one other
few besides a people champion. One
1214
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.239
I brought up to you a couple
of months ago, was you versus Randy
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01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:18.159
or a r k O versus Diamond
Cutter? And that's all I have to
1216
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:21.520
day. Thanks for your help.
I'm gonna get the DDP yoga next year.
1217
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:28.920
That's a man yo. The uh, the thing with the ice bags.
1218
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:34.000
I always tell everyone if you're if
you're an athlete, and I don't
1219
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:36.960
mean ones that you want to be
a professional athlete, if you're if you
1220
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:41.479
play intermal sports, if you're in
a league after high school and college and
1221
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.680
you're still playing basketball in the league, or yo, I don't care what
1222
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.439
you're doing. You got you got
you cause inflammation for all the you know,
1223
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:50.920
the beaten of your body. And
the biggest thing to help you know
1224
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:56.640
cut information besides cutting and putting in
real food in your body is ice in
1225
01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:59.920
your bodies. That's why I always
ice my back, ice my knees,
1226
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:03.079
ice my shoulders, and uh,
he kept me in a ring so many
1227
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:06.720
years longer. That's why I did
that. As far as Randy Orton,
1228
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:12.760
uh, one of my favorite favorite
people to watch in the ring, and
1229
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:15.000
I love that he's got a version
of the diamond cutter that he does.
1230
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:20.119
Uh, And I was all for
him doing it, and uh, I
1231
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:24.880
was really I was psyched to see
that, uh that you know, he
1232
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:29.920
was the first since Chris Jericho being
the absolute first one. Uh you know
1233
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.199
the uh the dual title. What's
it called out? Uh? The what's
1234
01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:38.640
that called out? What's it called? Uh? The what the title that
1235
01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:42.840
he has now it's the the uh
he's got both titles for Orton's title.
1236
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.600
Oh, the w WE World Heavyweight
Champion too. So it's just one time
1237
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.960
that he made it one title now, yep, okay, but at one
1238
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.640
point he was the unified that's what
he was. Oh you're talking about I
1239
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:55.239
wasn't turn about Ortner Jericho. That's
what I's right, Orton Orton just won
1240
01:32:55.279 --> 01:32:59.279
both belts. That's a w w
W world title combined. Jericho the unified
1241
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:05.720
champion, right exactly. And the
uh. The thing with Randy is I
1242
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:11.119
would love to go back in time
and work with him. I believe that
1243
01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:14.279
that train has passed, but I
would love to have done something with a
1244
01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:16.960
couple of years ago. But uh, I don't think that will ever happen.
1245
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:19.760
And you know what, it's really
fun for me, you know,
1246
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:24.600
and I hope it never happens.
That's like this. I hope they never
1247
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:28.000
offer it to me, which I
know they're not, which is a good
1248
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.439
thing for me and my body.
My body feels way too good. But
1249
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.159
I also get to go. You
know, Randy, Randy Orton got one
1250
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:39.840
of the greatest finishes ever next to
mine, and you know, uh he
1251
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:45.319
is a legend killer, but he
ain't killed me yet. It would cost
1252
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:49.960
him a lot of money just for
me with an r KO too, because
1253
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:58.079
I'd rather not and go. He
ain't ever killed me yet. So no,
1254
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:00.880
uh no, no plans yet to
be at right Somnia thirty. But
1255
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:02.560
you're not ruling it out. But
oh you know, I I know,
1256
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:06.119
I know, I know. Not
there. I'll I'm sure I'll be there.
1257
01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:11.319
Yeah, a lot of a lot
of feedback about people, you know,
1258
01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:15.399
wanting to come and do a DDP
yoga workshop while I'm there, so
1259
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.600
that may be you know, a
whole you know, a deal to do
1260
01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:21.600
on one of the days rolling into
that. So we've kind of got people
1261
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:26.319
all over the world doing doing the
program. So I'm sure I'll be doing
1262
01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:30.359
something down there in at Menia.
And Jake, Jake, I'm sure Jake
1263
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:32.399
will be with me. Jake looks
amazing I'm not sure Scott is gonna come
1264
01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:38.039
yet, but Scott looks great and
now they're they're both doing amazing, excellent.
1265
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:41.039
On the other side of the music, we'll hit three subjects for VIP
1266
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:45.479
members, Jake and Scott and Performance
Center versus the power Plant. You've been
1267
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:48.560
listening to the PW Torch live cast. I'm in Dallas Page. I've done
1268
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:53.159
my guest for the last nearly hour
and a half, Dallas Page, thanks
1269
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.000
so much, and we appreciate it. And check them out. Uh,
1270
01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:01.159
just Google search DDP yoga and check
out YouTube videos, go to his website.
1271
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:05.520
Anything else you want to plug DDP, Yeah, go to the Facebook.
1272
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:10.199
If don't listen to a word I
said today, go to Facebook,
1273
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:16.239
DDP Yoga one word, DDP Yoga
perfect and just read you right. Excellent
1274
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:20.600
And until Monday, where Bruce Mitchell
and Travis Bryant will be back in the
1275
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:26.479
outburn of Robbing Live. This is
way Keller. I behalf the DDP,
1276
01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:29.399
signing off vi T members listening to
us through the vi T site, Hold
1277
01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:46.520
on your bonus coverage is coming up
right after the music. All right,
1278
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:50.840
We're now to the VIP after show
portion of the program. At DDP.
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01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:56.239
I'm really curious to talk to you
about your impression of the Performance Center and
1280
01:35:56.319 --> 01:36:00.439
get your your right uh comparison between
that and the WW power plant where you
1281
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:03.600
spent so much time, because I
get asked that question a lot. Why
1282
01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:08.760
is this Performance center so revolutionary?
Wasn't there a power plant the WW had
1283
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:10.760
in the nineties? How is it
different than overs? What'd you think about
1284
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:15.680
that? I think it would be, Well, it's like this, it's
1285
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:21.039
not coke and pepsi. It might
be like R C Cola and Coca cola,
1286
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:27.239
you know, the the power plant
to the Performance Center, what Triple
1287
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:30.119
H built down there. Uh.
First of all, there's seven rings,
1288
01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:35.920
video cameras everywhere to be able to
video what you're doing in the ring.
1289
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.800
So at any point in time,
New York can see, like the Home
1290
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.399
Office can go down and just go
in there and watch what these guys are
1291
01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:48.439
doing, which is a whole different
animal, you know, because then you
1292
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:51.760
really get to see the guy because
the guys who went down there, who
1293
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:57.920
are who are there and work their
ass off whether those cameras lights are those
1294
01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:00.119
cameras are on them or not,
They're still going to be doing that.
1295
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:06.560
So that will shine through. The
other thing was the strength conditioning stuff that
1296
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:11.920
they've got there. All they needed
was DVP yoga to fill in just that
1297
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.800
gap of preventive maintenance. Because none
of those kids are hurt right now.
1298
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:23.039
You know, they're all young.
But you know what was interesting when I
1299
01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:27.800
sat down to talk with them,
I showed them that the Arthur Borman tape
1300
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:33.640
the Disabled Veteran. Did you know
that that video now wait as top ten
1301
01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:40.760
million views? Wow? I didn't
know that. That's great. It's going
1302
01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:45.279
viral twice. A lot of these
kids hadn't seen it. And there was
1303
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:50.600
fifty one men, sixteen or seventeen
women, and they were all stuts and
1304
01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:58.439
all very nice to be around,
great attitudes. When I first started after
1305
01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:01.439
the video, I said, I
won't need you guys to be honest with
1306
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:06.239
me here. And I'm asking this
for a reason. I said, I
1307
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:11.159
need because I need to know and
I really want you to be honest with
1308
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.640
me. Who has a problem with
the word yoga? And I raised my
1309
01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:19.159
hand. No one else does,
and I say, okay, I appreciate
1310
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:23.000
you being polite. I said,
now let me tell you who I am.
1311
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.319
I'm a guy who wouldn't be caught
dead doing yoga the first forty two
1312
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:31.239
years of my life. So if
you've got a problem with it, I
1313
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:34.119
get it. If you've got a
problem with it, raise your hand.
1314
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:42.119
Not one person. See guys who
are twenty nine and under, they get
1315
01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:44.520
it. They're like, fuck,
I just want to find a yoga that
1316
01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:49.600
works for me. They're not brain
dead like we were. Really anybody who's
1317
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:54.600
over forty yo or it depends on
what the area you're from. Us.
1318
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:59.039
If you're a top athlete and you
want to you know, you know that
1319
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.479
the guys aren't doing pills, and
you know, for the most part,
1320
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:08.560
nobody's testing positive for roids because if
they are there, they got three strikes
1321
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:12.880
and they're out. And bottom line
is, I'm sure some of the boys
1322
01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:16.039
are getting swinging it by but as
a whole, they're not. So when
1323
01:39:16.079 --> 01:39:21.680
you don't have any kind of and
what roids would do, like testosterone specifically
1324
01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:26.359
or deca No, no, I
don't think anybody could do decase stays in
1325
01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:32.560
their their system so long. But
deca Darabbla was made for burn victims to
1326
01:39:32.680 --> 01:39:44.239
help their skin heal faster. Yeah, you don't have to wait for the
1327
01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:46.319
way Keller pro wrestling post show to
find out what I thought of Monday Night
1328
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.279
Raw and SmackDown. Each week,
you can check out my reports that are
1329
01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:55.680
updated live throughout Raw and SmackDown at
pw torch dot com. My written report
1330
01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:59.119
will tell you what's happening in detail
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1331
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:02.920
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1332
01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:06.600
am watching as it airs. So
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1333
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:12.840
night at pw torch dot com.
That also applies to WWE pay per views.
1334
01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:15.399
I cover those live at pw torch
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1335
01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.720
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you can find other TV reports from other
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01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:24.319
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1337
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:28.680
Check it out pw torch dot com
your first stop for TV and pay
1338
01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:45.600
per view written reports. Yeah.
In testosterone just natural testosterone keeps you in
1339
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:49.640
your unbeatable. Will you add more
and more testasto when you get stronger,
1340
01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:54.279
stronger and stronger yo, So you
don't you can beat You can work yourself
1341
01:40:54.359 --> 01:41:00.720
through the injuries. So all that
got bringing taken away? They need thing
1342
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:05.680
that's legal that they can do enter
DDP yoga, and with guys like Chris
1343
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:11.560
Jericho's testimony and Rye Back and so
many of the guys that do it,
1344
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:15.800
you know, it's they were excited
about doing it. So that was really
1345
01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:17.920
cool for me. I loved I
want to go back, And they've asked
1346
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:21.920
me if I want to come back
to do like not just DP yoga with
1347
01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:30.159
them this time, but actually actually
like come in as you know, one
1348
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:35.359
of the legends and get in the
ring and talk about and I can get
1349
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:41.319
in there and you remember that's I
grew up in that place, you know.
1350
01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:45.439
And and besides all the rings,
they've got an area where it's all
1351
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:49.479
Green Street, so they dont create
whatever they want behind it in the interview.
1352
01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:51.680
Then they have another one where you
can win. You say, it's
1353
01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:59.399
got an iPad there and you could
pull up you go thirty second interview sixteen
1354
01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:03.119
whatever do you want to do and
it'll count you down three to one and
1355
01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:06.520
then you cut your promo. Well
then you can watch it right back.
1356
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.920
Yeah. I mean it's that technology
just wasn't there at the power plant.
1357
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:15.079
You know the power plants, you
know, well, how many rings at
1358
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:19.439
the power plant. The most there
was was three. Yeah, and you've
1359
01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:26.359
got to remember one of the things
that everybody laughed at me about was filming
1360
01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:35.079
my matches. Everyone films everything.
Yeah. Yeah. The biggest thing,
1361
01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:41.079
the number one thing is no one
did it before me icing my body?
1362
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:44.800
Oh, I know it's and it's
just I reference that the other day somebody,
1363
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:46.479
I can't remember the exact context on
this show, somebody brought that up
1364
01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:49.000
and I said, Dallas Page took
Keith for it. People were like,
1365
01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:51.600
what's wrong with him? He's so
broken down? Why is rocking around at
1366
01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:55.560
the ice? See him? Punk
got heat for that sometimes, you know,
1367
01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:57.600
in the back because it's like,
oh, he can't handle it.
1368
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.279
He's always icing his body, and
it's like, no, that's you know.
1369
01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:01.600
I think Grandy Orton does it now
too. It's like a lot of
1370
01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:04.560
guys do it, you know.
I mean the top guys who want to
1371
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:10.039
be injury free and perform at top
level. They just know. You know
1372
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:13.000
that that knowledge is there now.
I sing your body makes sense. You
1373
01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:16.039
know you're talking about generationally DDP Yoga
number one power forward in the NBA,
1374
01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:20.840
Kevin Love, big yoga proponent.
You know there's a reason that he is
1375
01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:25.319
able to do what he does and
is as versatile as he is unlike any
1376
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:29.119
power forward in history. And you
know, he's a big yoga guy.
1377
01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:32.079
That's that's how he keeps in shape
during the era and in the off season.
1378
01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:34.880
So it is a generational thing.
Now. Top elite athletes are like,
1379
01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:36.760
yeah, you know, I do
yoga. I mean, it's not
1380
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:40.439
even a thought. But you're right, people who are over forty or over
1381
01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:45.319
fifty see it as some you know, some mystical pseudo religious thing that you
1382
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.199
do where you're humming to yourself and
it looks silly, and you know,
1383
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:51.199
it's different now I do want I
know. We both only have a couple
1384
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:57.640
of minutes left, Howard Jake and
Scott doing any updates on their situation.
1385
01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:01.640
They spend time living at at the
d DP house and and how's that going
1386
01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:06.800
updated? Well, they they both
moved out a considerable time of uh,
1387
01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:12.920
like about three or four months now. Scotty was the first with his son
1388
01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:17.640
Cody, and they they they're literally
you know, walking distant nearby. Yeah,
1389
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:23.439
yeah, And uh, Scott I
got to see the other day,
1390
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:25.880
went by his house and we were
just hanging out for a little bit and
1391
01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:29.479
just trying to you know, we're
still you know, really good spirits.
1392
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:31.640
Uh, but you know Christmas time, you know, it's just tough for
1393
01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:34.319
some people. So he was,
you know, I think that he needs
1394
01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:38.399
to have a little bit more goals
setting for this year, which we're gonna
1395
01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:42.279
go over. Thinks was to get
together tomorrow, just because he you know,
1396
01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:46.840
he's funny man. He's with all
these these q and a's that are
1397
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:53.039
happening around, like Scott could do
like an act and like like mcfoley does
1398
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:57.359
completely different though, you know,
but I could definitely see Scott doing that
1399
01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:00.439
and uh and being entertaining like that, because he needs to get out there
1400
01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:04.600
and do some of that, and
you know hoping at some point that uh
1401
01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:09.479
you know, once he's uh you
know, gotten that clean to that certain
1402
01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:12.439
amount of time, uh, you
know, that WW might want to do
1403
01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:14.399
something with him. I would like
to say, I would like to see
1404
01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:17.760
that for him, because, uh, you know, he's very very very
1405
01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:23.159
creative. He's got all his all
his faculties going now. Well, Jake
1406
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:29.439
and Scott are so known for being
troubled and addiction issues and and all that,
1407
01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:32.199
all the controversies that come along with
that they're also so highly regarded for
1408
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:35.920
the wrestling minds, you know,
and and that that's the thing that I
1409
01:45:35.960 --> 01:45:41.279
think makes people especially interested in their
story. There's a human interest story,
1410
01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:45.399
but there's also these guys are so
incredibly intelligent and talented, and everybody realizes
1411
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:48.560
that that. I think they're a
little more invested in seeing their journey right
1412
01:45:48.600 --> 01:45:51.079
now, trying to you know,
get to a better place and be able
1413
01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:57.039
to take advantage of those of those
those gifts and those that acquired knowledge that
1414
01:45:57.079 --> 01:46:00.520
they have in the pro wrestling industry. Yeah, yeah, I just hope
1415
01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:02.279
they can keep doing it, you
know, you know, I when they
1416
01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:05.800
were here, I know, they
were a really positive environment, you knoweah.
1417
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:10.720
And for that for that year,
I took out all booze. I
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01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:14.119
took out there was you know,
there's you know, wine or whatever,
1419
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:17.159
but that was always in my rock, my attic or my my locked my
1420
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:21.520
closet locked down, So it wasn't
there for aing, wasn't campting anybody.
1421
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:25.560
You know that they both would go
to freaking bars, you know, to
1422
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.279
eat or whatever, and they not
drink. So yeah, I think that's
1423
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:31.359
a good test for him too.
I want to end on this note,
1424
01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:34.000
And I could do an hour with
you talking about Scott and Jakes. I
1425
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:36.479
think it's a fascinating story in such
a great thing, you know, that
1426
01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:40.399
that that you offered for them,
in a great place that you you gave
1427
01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:43.479
them to go and like you said, just had such a positive environment and
1428
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.560
two guys who had just given up
on themselves. Really And I could do
1429
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:48.359
an hour on this with you.
But just final final topic for you is
1430
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:55.159
it is there is there something about
that process? I mean there has to
1431
01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:57.880
be a lot of things, but
what jumps out the most that you learned
1432
01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:03.760
about yourself, your beliefs, and
your approach to life when you were so
1433
01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:08.920
close and so immersed and trying to
help Scott and Jake. And I mean
1434
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:13.039
this not as a softball question.
I mean it as an introspective, difficult
1435
01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:16.680
question. Was there anything that you
learned because they were such challenges, that
1436
01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:21.399
they had been through so much and
had so much baggage and perhaps at times
1437
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:27.920
resistance or skepticism. Were you ever
humbled along the way or maybe thrown off
1438
01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:32.399
a little bit by the challenges that
they presented to you? I think,
1439
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:36.920
if anything, the keyword that comes
to me is patience. And anybody really
1440
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:45.640
knows me knows I'm not all that
patience over anything with those guys. You
1441
01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:50.159
know, I could, you know, I could take those extra breaths at
1442
01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:57.680
times and try to understand it from
their point of view and just try to
1443
01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:01.039
be really fair the uh you know, and it's tough, you know,
1444
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:03.680
because you know when people say,
man, I can't believe you, hope
1445
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:08.880
Jake Robertson, Oh, by,
I go dude. Just remember we're talking
1446
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:12.159
about Jake roberts here. You know, we're Scott Hall the same thing.
1447
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:15.239
At any point in time, Scotty
will not be that guy. Hey,
1448
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:17.880
I've got six months in. I've
got seven months in, I've got even
1449
01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:23.520
he will not be that guy.
It's just that it reminds me when we
1450
01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:27.960
were in, when I was managing
him. I'll never forget Michael Graham got
1451
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.560
blessed his soul. There's a good
buddy of mine back in the day,
1452
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:33.560
and he made a lot of things
happen for me. Uh from the grand
1453
01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:36.520
family. Uh yeah, but he
was an agent, you know, he's
1454
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:40.479
one of dust these boys. And
uh, when we had come in and
1455
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:45.399
I was managing Scott and he wanted
him to cover him and do the double
1456
01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:49.600
bicep post. Scott's like, I'm
not going to do that. He's like,
1457
01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:53.159
well, why wouldn't you got a
great body, you got great guns,
1458
01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:57.000
you got I'm not always going to
have these guns, you know.
1459
01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:00.760
Then my gimmick's over because my body
is I'm not a body builder who does
1460
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:05.560
Rustley goes, I'm a wrestler just
has to have a good body. Yeah,
1461
01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:09.159
yep. He never even back then
he wouldn't want to be labeled into
1462
01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:12.079
that. And the whole drinken thing
when he talks about Drake and he goes,
1463
01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:15.880
hey, I'm not gonna tell people
booze and and and drugs aren't fine
1464
01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:19.199
because they are. He says that
now, you know, he says,
1465
01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:25.800
but when you get to the point
where they need you need them, they
1466
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:30.399
don't need you, and then you
just can't quit, then they become a
1467
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:34.239
really bad problem. Yep. You
know. But he's he's like that,
1468
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:36.920
just like he didn't even want to
be like, you know, originally I
1469
01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:40.840
was doing to save but just call
this movie, you know, it's never
1470
01:49:40.840 --> 01:49:45.319
too late. The Resurrection Jake Steak
and Scott Hall and because they're both so
1471
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.560
different, like Scott was like,
you just do that with Jake. No,
1472
01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:53.239
I'll just I'll do my thing over
here, Dolly. I was like,
1473
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:58.960
you know, whatever works. Now. I'm just glad that people could
1474
01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:01.680
see the amazing come back to have
and and then today I just take it
1475
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:04.119
day by day. Whenever I'm talking
to everybody, how you doing, you
1476
01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:08.640
know, what's up? I try
to you know, Scotty and Jake,
1477
01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.680
bobdel I burned a candle at four
ends and right now, I don't know
1478
01:50:12.720 --> 01:50:16.319
if you saw anything about my my
girl, Brenda Kay, I call it
1479
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:25.960
BK. She got breast cancer like
uh maybe five six weeks ago. And
1480
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:29.720
as soon as I found out,
you know, and they talked about double
1481
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:34.600
mastectomy and you know, then the
reconstruction. It's like that's really evasive surgery
1482
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:41.079
on a woman. And I immediately
started looking into, you know, other
1483
01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:48.640
forms. That is not our money
making cancer country. I don't know if
1484
01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:55.840
you noticed, but chemo, chemo, just chemo is a two hundred billion
1485
01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:01.880
dollar business. Two hundred billion that's
in saying, you know. So I
1486
01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:05.880
took her to Mexico and I spent
two weeks there. Then we came back
1487
01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:10.039
here and then we're going back on
Sunday. So I mean, like my
1488
01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:13.960
time when I wanted to just be
chilling out and stuff, I'm still working
1489
01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:16.640
down. I'm doing that at Tijuana
and I still got to travel out of
1490
01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:19.399
there all over, so you know, I get pretty fried out. And
1491
01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:23.680
those guys know it, so they
try not to bring me anything, you
1492
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:26.000
know, Like I'm like, dude, just call me, you know what
1493
01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:28.920
you need to talk, blah blah
blah. But I am a little fried
1494
01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.199
right now. And then you know, I do help a lot of people
1495
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:36.760
on the DDP yoga site, and
you know, there's only so many questions
1496
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:41.520
I could answer. Like I was
looking forward to sitting down and talking to
1497
01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:44.359
you because I knew we talk about
everything. You know, we always have
1498
01:51:44.439 --> 01:51:47.079
great times when we get on and
talk about whatever the fuck we're talking about.
1499
01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:50.000
But you know, I got I'm
just looking around right now by the
1500
01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:53.720
room, but I think I got
to be out of here in thirty two
1501
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:57.000
hours. I haven't even started the
pack for two weeks, and man,
1502
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:03.039
it's brutal. It's brudu. Best
best of luck to you, Thank you
1503
01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:05.359
again. It's you're always generous with
your time when you're on the show,
1504
01:52:05.399 --> 01:52:10.279
and generous with the stories that you
share. And the and the insights that
1505
01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:15.800
you share also, so good luck
DP. Thank you so much. We'll
1506
01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:18.399
have you on again in twenty fourteen
and get an update on things. You
1507
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:21.920
got it, buddy. I have
a great holiday and everybody be safe out
1508
01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:27.119
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01:52:27.119 --> 01:52:30.359
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