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A single prop in the background can change how you see an entire movie, and sometimes it can change how you see the real world too. Author Wayne Burdett joins me to explain why he believes the 1998 Nicolas Cage thriller Snake Eyes contains “Easter eggs” that map onto modern political conspiracy narratives, including claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination story that’s been argued over across TikTok, YouTube, and beyond.
Wayne breaks down the film scene by scene, focusing on the details most people miss: repeated numbers, staged signage, storm naming, and oddly specific moments that feel like they’re begging you to pause and rewind. We talk about numerology meanings for seven and ten, the “27 Club” framing, and how symbolism can become the backbone of a theory, especially when the internet is already primed to connect dots. I also ask the skeptical questions that come up when a pattern starts feeling “too perfect,” and we sit with the tension between coincidence and intent.
From there, the conversation expands into gematria, what it is, how it’s used in English-language research, and why name and number matches can feel persuasive even when they’re controversial. We also touch on Candace Owens, online allegations involving the French Foreign Legion, and the bigger theme running under everything: whether Hollywood works as predictive programming, mass distraction, or something stranger like accidental “future echoes” coming through creative subconscious.
If you’re into podcasts about predictive programming, conspiracy theory culture, numerology, gematria, and hidden symbolism in movies, this one is built for you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves decoding films, and leave a review with the one detail you think matters most.
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Welcome back to Strange Doris Band.
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I'm your host, Melissa, and today I have a special guest.
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Um that has been very hard for us to collab because of you know technology and crazy lives.
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We all know how that goes.
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But I would like to welcome Wayne Burdett.
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Um he is an author and he is going to talk to you guys about his work and what he does, and we're gonna hit him with a few Q ⁇ As too.
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Go ahead, Wayne, take it away.
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Yeah, hello, that's my my name's Wayne uh Burdett.
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I've I've released a book called Easter Eggs in the Matrix, uh, about how I believe the 1998 movie Snake Eyes appears to predict uh the details of Charlie Kirk's assassination, including the exact date and the subsequent war with Iran.
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Um so uh I've been an author for a few years now, and I've uh I've done a number of uh fictional books, and this is my first um try when it comes to uh conspiracy related books in nonfiction.
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That's awesome.
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So um this is about Charlie Kirk too, right?
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This is how you said that from the movie Snake Eyes.
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With Yeah, that's what I predicted the how it predicted the assassination and may even predicted the exact day.
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Okay, so like the Charlie Kirk thing is just you know, I always see stuff on TikTok.
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Um it's almost like he was predicting his death.
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But it is wild to me because a lot of people still speculate that the Charlie Kirk, you know, story and what happened isn't even real.
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What that it's almost like a psyop.
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What would you say about that?
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I I'd say it is a sight in a sense, uh, but I still say he he was assassinated, but the it is a side-up.
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I mean uh the if you've been watching the YouTube of Jesse on fire, he says it it is the death that was faked.
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I don't believe that.
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Um, but there is some evidence that it was a sign-up, including a very suspicious journalist that was involved in interviewing eyewitnesses.
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And you are speaking on the behalf of his um late or his um female friend that has a lot of controversy that's on TikTok, YouTube.
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Um you you want to go ahead and say her name?
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So I I'm not speaking so do you mean I'm not really speaking on behalf of anyone.
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Um I mean um Candace Owens uh is talking about the YouTuber Candace Owens?
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Yes, Candace, but Candace Owens is kind of like the one who really opened up the the the worms, the can of worms about everything going on with him, right?
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Yeah, so uh um Candace Owens has been uh it has found quite a lot of information out about about what's got gone on and some of it's uh some of what she said actually is appears uh symbolically in the movie itself as well.
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Um because um because if you watch the movie, you'll find some details that symbolically match what she's been saying about um certain aspects of including French Foreign Legion involvement.
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Okay.
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Okay, so um Snake Eyes with um oh my god, I'm trying to think of his name.
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Um Nicolas Cage.
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What's that?
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Nicolas Cage.
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Yes, Nicolas Cage.
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God, I love Nicolas Cage.
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Um Yeah, I haven't seen that movie in a while, and actually when I was reading through your book, um, I was thinking about, oh my god, I should, you know, watch this.
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Because I I mean that's for like 1994.
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1998.
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1998, okay.
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Okay, so yeah, so it's been a long time.
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I probably haven't seen it since like uh I don't know, the mid-2000s.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I've watched it about since the fascination, I've watched it about 25 times, or maybe even more than that now.
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Okay.
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Uh and I've found quite a lot.
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So I can go through the details if you'd like me to.
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Yes, I would yes, please.
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And then this this could not open up for listeners to what the movie's about.
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Yeah, so the movie is set at a boxing match.
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Now a politician called Charles Kirkland is shot burn neck by a sniper.
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It is blamed on a Palestinian.
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Um so the m the but the movie opens with a reporter standing outside the venue of the boxing match while speaking to the camera about the event.
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Behind her is a billboard for the boxing match.
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On the billboard, it says Tyler the executioner.
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So in real life, Tyler Robinson is accused of the murder.
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Uh, on the billboard, the month is September, and the date is actually the 19th and not the 10th.
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However, 1 plus 9 equals 10, and you'll see a lot of references to number 10 while watching the movie.
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And in real life, Tyler Robinson is accused of the murder of Charlie Kirk, and the murder the murder occurred in the year 2025.
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The year 2025 was also the Chinese year of the snake, which matches the the name of the movie.
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Now, if you are familiar with the 27 Club, uh you'll know that quite a lot of entertainers have died at around the age of 27.
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So when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, the film itself was aged 27 years old.
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So the movie, in a sense, is now part of the 27 Club.
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Yeah.
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In real life, as soon after the assassination, there were lots of discussions about the bulk where the bullet hit with early reports saying it hit the C7 part of the neck.
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Now the si the neck has seven vertebrae, and so set and seven will also become important in the movie as there are lots of references to the number seven as well.
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Um so in my book I said the number seven represented the neck.
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However, within about a week of my book being published, I discovered that Tyler Robinson was on trial for seven different crimes.
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So the number seven could be in relation to that.
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Now, back to the start of the movie, whilst the reporter is discussing the fight, there is a storm, and the storm is called Jezebel.
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In real life, the online magazine Jezebel pays witches from the website Etsy to place a curse on Charlie Kirk.
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This was two days before the assassination.
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In the movie, the reporter and her producer argue about whether the storm should be classed as a hurricane or a tropical storm.
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In real life, Charlie was killed during the question about trans shooters.
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So I feel like this is how you is it's symbolical to the real life argument of how you define something such as tr such as trans, um, trans men and women.
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Um and in real life, Tyler was accused of using the Mauset 98 rifle with 30 top six ammunition.
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Now, Snake Eyes movie was released in 1998, so that's symbolical of the Mauser 98 rifle.
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And you know what Snake Eyes is, you know uh how you get Snake Eyes in a in a casino?
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In a casino?
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Yeah.
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Uh is it's got it's something to do with luck, right?
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Yeah, so Snake Eyes is when is what is called when you roll two dice and they both land on a on a one.
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Oh.
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And yeah, and the odds of that happening um is 36 to 1, and the ammunition was 30.6, so it's somewhat what's symbolic of that, but it's almost play on words.
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Now, um in real life it said that um Tyler changed his outfit three times.
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Now, in the movie, between the assassination and the end of the movie, Tyler, the character, also changes his outfit three times.
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It's that does not include any flashbacks to before the fight, though.
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Wow.
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Um and in the movie, the assassination involved inside a home.
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The bodyguard was involved in the assassination, he kills the assassin and plants a confession on him stating why he did it.
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And with real life, we've been shown texts and forum messages that people are saying are made up.
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And this part of the movie needs to be symbolic of that as well.
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Um so it also being claimed that the Kirk assassination involved his bodyguards, so again, that matches the movie and is symbolic of that.
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Now, um the movie i involves a detective named Rick Santor.
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He arrives at the fight um and speaks to a lady holding a small billboard with a number seven on it.
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This is before the fight starts and is backstage.
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Um sees an employee showing the round, so she shows which round the fight is in.
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So he's holding the number seven, and the assassination occurs in round seven.
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So again, another reference to the number seven.
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Um the small billboard of the number seven also has three stars in it, big lower number seven.
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So seven plus three equals ten, so as I said, another reference to the number seven.
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And and there's also the detective also says you get ten large in the fight, and there are ten photographers surrounding the boxing ring.
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So number ten again.
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Now, um, so before the fight starts, the detective goes goes looking to place a bet with a bookie.
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In the process, he sees another character who goes to harass.
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So that character is called Cyrus.
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He doesn't have a certain name in the movie, but he did I think he was a great character.
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Now the detective harasses and c coerces and beats up Cyrus.
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So but in real life, over 2,000 years ago, it was someone called Cyrus the Great.
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He was king of Persia, and Persia is modern day Iran.
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So you could argue that they've been coerced and beat up um in the war that's been happening with when someone's been bombing them.
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Um have any questions so far?
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Yeah, well, I'm just I'm taking this all in because um yeah, s seven is is to me has always been a bad luck number, and it's always a number to pop out and show you that something's going to happen, right?
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Yeah.
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Um well in casinos though, 777 is a jackpot number.
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Yes.
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Um, but yeah.
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So um so during the movie assassination, and whistleblower though also gets hit but survives and tries to escape the area so they don't get killed.
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She's able to sneak into the adjoining casino part of the building.
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Now the building itself, when it um when they were filming it, that building was owned by Donald Trump in real life.
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So um, so the whistle ball, she escapes from the casino, she sees a man, and she tries to use that man to get him to take her to his room so she can escape.
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That man is called Ned Campbell.
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Now, are you familiar with Gematria?
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Uh no, I am not.
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Well, uh, so would you like me to explain gymatria if you're listeners?
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Yes, absolutely.
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This is very interesting.
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I'm like writing down so many things I that I want to like ask you a little later, but yeah, go ahead.
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Yeah, so gymatria is a num a method of assigning numerical values to letters and words, and in modern research is frequently applied to English names using several counting systems.
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So the there's three counting systems that's um Hebrew, English, and simple gymatria.
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So those are three different ones.
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Um so um that's that's briefly what what it is.
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Um so Ned Campbell himself, um moment.
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Uh so for Ned Campbell, uh if we uh use Hebrew, English, and simple gymatria, all three uh match the the gematria of Abe Lincoln.
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So another pre one of your presidents that was also assassinated?
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Yes, yep.
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Yeah, and also in Hebrew gematria, it matches Marilago, which is a private members' club owned by Donald Trump, who's also been a type of assassination attempts.
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So Ned Campbell, the character, seems to be happy when happy that he's being seduced by the wrist of war and agrees to take her to his room.
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So they are walking towards the elevators when Ned Campbell sees a slot machine that he wants to play on.
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So the the man here is actively being seduced and decides he wants to have a go on another slot machine, that's which I find incredibly weird.
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And clear to me, it's clear that the producers of the movie want us to focus on that slot machine.
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So, does the slot machine have a name?
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And we find that it does.
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It is the Magnificent Seven.
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So another reference to number seven.
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Uh-huh.
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But that's not all.
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Well that's not all.
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So have you been following anything Candace Owens has been saying about the French Foreign Legion?
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Oh, okay.
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You thought you you said the French the French Legion?
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Yeah, so the French Foreign Legion, so the um see so Candace Owens alleges that there was French Foreign Legion involvement in the assassination.
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So do you know what the French Foreign Legion is?
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I do not.
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No, so that they've got a uh um uh like a foreign army, so that uh made up of foreign uh people not born in France.
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Uh so it's it's just uh just a legion of of their army that are just entirely made up by foreign people.
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For people that were not born in France, you said, correct?
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That that's uh yeah, that's right.
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Okay, okay.
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So um she alleges uh that the French Foreign Legion was involved, and specifically that the 138 Demic Brigade was involved.
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So they have a nickname.
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In French, it is La Phalange Magnifique, and English and in English that is uh translated to the magnificent phalanx.
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And the word magnificent is there as well.
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So that uh slot machine that they're trying to get us to pay attention to is called the Magnificent Seven, and she's alleging that the French Foreign Legion that has a nickname the Magnificent Phalanx was involved.
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I feel like that might be what they're trying to draw our attention to.
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Wow, there is just so many golden eggs in this movie and Charlie Kirk.
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Yeah.
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So eventually, do you think that they got him when I say they, there's a, you know, that's that that that's a broad, you know, we're not we but I'll let you get into that.
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But do you think that they didn't want him to run for president?
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Do you think he was meant to be president?
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Is that what was gonna happen?
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Because a lot of people think this, that he would have been our future president, and that's why this was set up.
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Yeah, well, um, it may be just to stop the Iran war, uh, because it looks like because he wanted to stop the Iran War.
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Yeah.
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It may have been to shut him up about that.
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It may be could that he was also becoming quite would one day run for president as well.
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Um, but um they would have no way of knowing that for sure.
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But the fact that he was trying to stop the Iran war is something that um would be quite interesting.
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Uh would most likely be the reason, and also the fact that he was going against Israel during the October 7th.
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Um I would say Octo or Habana, you know, Israel October 7th, given basically giving Israel reason to cleanse Gaza.
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Um it looks like a standout operation to me.
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And there's a lot still going on here in the States, you know, where I'm at where I am at in Michigan, um, if you I'm sure you follow this, a lot that's going on now with this in Dearborn.
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So yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty fucking scary.
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I mean, I stay out of that because I've never really um understood it enough.
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Like I've never got down to like the nitty-gritty details of the biblical, and y there's a lot that goes into it.
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I I don't I would say I truly don't understand it.
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I do know the principle of it and what you know the whys, and you know, you see it online too, the the hate that is fueled.
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So that was probably the main reason too, like you said, Charlie Kirk.
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I mean, even before being president.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's right.
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So for me, it um it looks like uh he may being killed because of his views on Israel, exchanging views in Israel and the fact that he tried to stop at the Iran.
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Okay.
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But you can never be sure about why he was assassinated.
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Um yeah, so uh would you like me to continue or do you have any questions?
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Um no, go ahead and continue.
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Yeah, no, no, we'll we'll do the questions later.
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Yeah, no, go ahead.
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This is interesting.
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I'm just listening with like my mouth open.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So eventually they get to the hotel room, um, as he's been choosing, and the room number is 3517, which is an interesting number.
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So JFK was the 35th president, and he was also assassinated, and the number 17 could refer to QAnon, which uh as as the movie does that as a lot of Q references.
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I'm not a QAnon follower myself, but I can't deny that there are quite a lot of QAnon references in the movie.
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Yeah, yeah, uh-huh.
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Yeah, and near the end of the movie, with the storm still raging, the bodyguard is about to kill the whistleblower and they're detected, but outside, a police van crashes into the building where where they are while attempting to avoid a monument that is rolling towards them in the storm.
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The van that crashes into the building saves the day, and on top of the van is the number 47.
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Trump is the 47th president of the United States.
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So that's another uh number.
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Trump Trump is the what of the state?
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The 47th?
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47th, yeah.
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So he's 45 and 47?
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Are you talking about him being the pre the 47th president?
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Yeah, 47th president, yeah.
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Okay, yeah, I think because I'm like, okay, yeah, because for your term.
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Okay.
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I I had to think about that for a second, because I'm like, wait a minute, we should be more than that.
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But no, you're right, you're right.
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Yeah, so at the end of the movie, the detective and the whistleblower are talking.
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This is weeks after the event.
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In the background, there is a building site.
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The workmen are just sitting around doing not us nothing.
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It doesn't really add anything to the story as the workmen aren't doing anything, aren't doing anything, but it feels like the director wants us to focus on the workmen.
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So after the conversation is over, the two characters go their separate ways, and the camera focuses on the work side for a few minutes while the credit rolls.
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So the workmen only start working when the supervisor in a white helmet shows up, which a white hat suppose.
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And in real life, it is led that the murder scene was cleared up quite quickly with builders brought in, uh, builders or construction workers brought in to work on the site.
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It feels like the movie scene is symbolical, but quick clear up as they've got as they as they're clearly the producers are clearly trying to get us to focus on that scene, even though it adds nothing to the story.
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Um any questions?
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No, I love that the I love that you're doing this though, because I I have a lot of episodes about talking about how movies and shows tell us either what has already happened or what's going to happen.
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So I absolutely 1000% believe this.
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Yeah, well, it it it could be a case of predictive programming, but it could be it could be an accidental case of predictive programming.
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Um as I've uh as my conclusion is um because uh Charlie Crick was so young, there's no way that they could that the powers that be could have put anything in this into motion.
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So I I believe that to due to Hollywood I I think Hollywood wants to dabble in drugs and uh and I think someone may be in Iowa on an ayahuasca or D M T.
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Um and in in those when they take those types of drugs, they tend to see uh the machine elves and um uh uh uh seem to see the s seem to see the same hallucinations, which is very unusual to seem to see the same hallucinations over and over again.
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So we may have seen the future with that.
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Um whoever was doing that, but forgot about it once the wore off, but it stayed in their subconscious and it came out while producing the movie.
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Okay.
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That's a good take on that.
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I mean I do believe that we're recycled over and over too and I think that time is just a loop and we can be in you know two places at the same time different times.
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I mean there's there's I do believe in somewhat of a multiverse too, right?
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Like um I think a lot of it I sometimes believe in coincidences.
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A lot of times I don't um I will say this the Charlie Kirk movement was bizarre because if you think about it um after he died you heard a lot of people saying oh I've been following Charlie for a long time but Charlie Kirk really did not make his debut until like I'm talking like big time all over social media.
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Everybody knew his name people had his shirts really until about uh maybe two years before this had happened and I do believe that he was some sort of a psyop and when I say that in my own meaning I think it's a distraction I think a lot of things are distractions.
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And I think Hollywood is the most evil that there is I think in fact actors, actresses, um musicians, celebrities, whatever, they have all said there's a lot of people that have done interviews that are no longer famous because they'll come out and say listen what you see in Hollywood what you think you know about LA you know nothing.
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Everything you see is fake everything you think is fake is real.
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And two of those people that have said that is the Olsen twins.
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You notice the Olsen twins haven't they haven't done anything in a long time they stay out of the spotlight because they have done all these interviews then other people will say well why didn't they get killed?
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Why didn't they get you know basically shut up permanently well because they're they're not trying to get gigs they're not out there blabbing their mouth.
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Charlie Kirk I didn't agree with everything he said.
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I see what he was trying to do but inside of me like how the feeling that I had watching him was that this isn't real like this is very programmed right yeah yeah um and I think movies are programmed and I think Hollywood from the the from the very time first time to the very end ends of times when who knows how what that looks like right with existence but they know they it's like it's like the fucking Truman show you know what I mean like they know what they're doing.
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They're they they want you to see they want you to hear they've changed the frequency and music so that it's all a game to them and I sometimes I think this is this is just entertaining to them.
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They're like ha ha ha now they know that we you know that this is real.
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I mean there's a lot of meanings I I think I I think this is what I was trying to they believe in manifestation as well.
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Absolutely I would get trying to get society to manifest things that they want such as so they well create a movie like Civil War.
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If you remember the movie Civil War a few years ago where they um where there was a Trump like figure and uh when there was a Civil War the the they did it like a Civil War second Civil War in America and where Trump got killed.
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Uh well the Trump like figure got killed.
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So I did not see that movie but I do know what you're talking about.
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I have seen like I know that that came out a couple of years ago.
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Yeah so it it feels like they're trying to get uh um people to manifest that reality by showing them by making them a uh by you know like by creating action and excitement and and different things like that through movies so it would do that.
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:04.880
Um oh you said movement okay I thought you said movie yes movement yes it's no it is a movie so it is a movie so they're trying to get people to do that.
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.960
Oh they're trying to get that to do that to Trump like what happened in the movie in real time.
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Yes absolutely uh-huh they're trying to force uh some particular program in that way um it would because it 'cause the manifestation that's what the uh if people were believing it that's what that's what would happen.
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:34.000
Well do you know anything about Charlie Kirk's wife I I do know some um about some some information about it.
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I've been following uh what's been said about her so I so you know that she was like the main um she was behind the scenes but the main big movement on the um uh adoption agency the children through Romania yeah yeah I I'm aware of the Romanian thing yeah well and it's it's really sick to think about it because all these and she wasn't she married Charlie Kirk and then she has this like big past before Charlie but um it's really sick to me that like these people that are so they have so much money so then like you you mentioned numerology so like the biggest billionaires in the world nobody knows right they're hush hush they actually I did do an episode on this too there are um very secret society meetings based on numerology and it is a true thing like when people have said oh that's woo-woo well it may be woo-woo however that's just how time and money works they actually have secret meetings about numerology the certain times when the stars align when you know this or that and there's certain times that they do them certain dates seven has always actually people think that's a lucky number it's not you may get lucky in the moment but that's why they always talk about if you break a mirror it's seven years of bad luck.
00:27:54.720 --> 00:28:02.559
And then um this I did look up the symbolism in 10 and um the core meaning is completion and wholeness.
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:21.680
So like new beginnings but that's you know any you know what you you're familiar with angel numbers right yeah so 33 so um it so yeah 33 is an interesting one because I I I've got two other friends who um were who belongs to the conspiracy movement.
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Um and every time we're together we always see the number 33.
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:36.720
Uh-huh that's a good number yeah so it either 33 or 333 and it it's always seems to come in my life it's really weird.
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:49.279
So um every time I'm with them a 33 will football pack looks like I'll I'll put a bit on a horse um e each way so and the horse will come second and I'll win 33 pounds.
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Um I get to their house 33 minutes past the hour, even though I've won do taxi and it gets me there for that time.
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I've sat there a number of times and like lots of other things where 33 just blurts out words all the time.
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:19.119
Um in fact the other day I was on a um podcast two different podcasts actually so I was on one for an hour and a half but it continued after me so and it ended after three hours and thirty three minutes.
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:38.880
Ooh yes that podcast did that and then I had another one so uh that started 10 30 pm American time but it was 3 30 a my time so I can also three thirty do you know your life path number it's probably a three because I'm a three.
00:29:46.720 --> 00:30:02.240
Now if you add I'm not sure how relevant this is but eleven eleven eighty seven but so if you add the individual numbers together you get uh twenty-nine I believe or two plus nine equals eleven that's another eleven eleven so that's thirty three right there.
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.839
Nice um so I was like thirty threes and I don't know what they mean.
00:30:08.960 --> 00:31:16.000
Well it is thir three like like any three three th like three three three thirty three it is a master number and that is representing the highest level of spiritual consciousness and you're usually like some you're very passionate like a teacher um you are there for guidance um and you you have a you have this like pursuit of understanding needing to understand and like dissecting things so that would totally I would say I mean listening to you talk about your book and you know the the variations of the movie and then you know ch you know car chart can't even talk Charlie Kirk now Candace Owens that has to be a whole nother um podcast episode because there's a lot we can talk about Candace but it's the weirdest thing about your comparison to the movie with Charlie Kirk to me is how identical and how like um how do I say the word I don't know like sneaky because Candace owned a lot of people didn't know that Charlie and Candice were like so close right yeah they look button Jack.
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.680
But now but people have said that they think that Candace had something to do with it.
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A lot of people think that the wife was behind it the bodyguard so oh and the bodyguard was an author too right wasn't Charlie or which bodyguard no or there was an author with him that day the bodyguard and then there was an author right the day he got shot I I can't remember thinking about being author but um a lot of people these days so it couldn't be the case.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:33:22.400
I'm gonna look this up Charlie Kirk Day of assassination yeah I I remember seeing this and I was like wow that's so interesting and then with you bringing this up and like talking about this I'm like and you're an author so I'm like I'm pretty sure there was uh with an author this would be really good um now can we find your book is it um can we get a hard copy can we like um order it from somewhere yeah so you can get it on Amazon on Amazon so uh yeah so it's all my books are on Amazon so Easter eggs in the matrix is on Amazon and I've also got uh two fictional books the Starlight Archives Class of Empires which is a space opera and then the very first book um set during COVID um it it's confessions of a compromised activist during the great recess about um how a uh a a lockdown an anti-lockdown activist um is blackmailed by the police into uh becoming a spy basically no I'm gonna pull you up and yeah so are you a junior no uh no um uh we can just uh I can send you the link again again on my email if you want well no I mean I'm I'm for like I just like pulled you up on from an overview so it's Wayne D.
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:32.799
Birdette right it says author and creative professional so the reason why I'm asking have you have you worked on any films or like TV shows too?
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:44.799
No I've never worked on anything TV or no nothing like that no have you thought about doing that I don't think I've the skills to do that so I'm not sure how we'll do that.
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:45.599
Okay.
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:57.759
So like um now when I pull you up again because I just I want I like it to be really easy for our listeners and you said you have how many four books three books.
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You have three books okay now are you working on something right now yes I'm actually working on a single to my space uh opera uh so the sound like Archives classic vampires um I'm in I'm doing a sequel to that and I plan a few more books in that in that uh form as well I'm also gonna eventually do some more uh nonfiction conspiracy related books as well okay so just for our listeners so um this Wayne Bernett shows up um number and it he's got a hashtag 323 and that's how you would find him online snake eyes in the Matrix this is definitely the book that I want I know you sent it to me but I um I actually I like to have hardcovers um I have some authors that have sent me books so I like to put them on into my library and around my podcasting station so yeah I'm definitely gonna order one of your books and so you are on Amazon and where where else can anyone find you I do have a account a next account okay um so I'll just get uh get off what you said is just win is just win the deck um one the deck one and I'm not wrong all right so I have some questions for you okay okay did you happen to see the movie um it came out earlier this year disclosure with the aliens I I think yeah okay so the beginning of that movie starts with a fight at like the White House and yep and the fight at the White House was going on right so the instant beginning of this movie I'm like okay you know and then as the movie went forward I was like you know I felt a lot of it was distraction too but for me what I the it would they put it in our faces in that movie like you're talking about Snake Eyes and with Charlie Kirk.
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:28.960
Same thing with this because there's been such an alien battle is it real is it not um like hey the aliens are already here and we're probably we are them so that's what I took from that movie.
00:36:29.199 --> 00:37:47.920
Um another movie I want to ask you about is have you watched the shining no uh what Stanley Kubrick um is a very interesting uh one there because uh so when it comes to 2001 Space Odyssey yes um he actually killed he actually died 666 days uh before uh January 1st 2001 yes so uh that um so that because yeah so yeah so there's a a man called uh Mark Devlin uh if you've heard of him he does a lot of work on this type of stuff and he's actually had it uh interviewed someone about Stanley Kubrick's uh movies the other because there's a lot of lot more that people haven't noticed on it there's a lot of symbolism in that movie a lot just like how you were this is when you um you sound very passionate when you were talking about this and I love that because it instantly I could feel it and then I was like okay this is like a shining thing too you know what I mean like this is these are great references so um I absolutely am very intrigued on all of the little Easter eggs that you have found.
00:37:48.079 --> 00:38:15.039
Now do you think that you'll ever write a book into comparison um kind of like uh into the matrix another book of the 27 club because that 27 alone has a lot of meaning and um I don't know if you're familiar with um the Marmalette Charlotte or in LA that the haunted bar where a lot of them have died at 27.
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Do you know I'm not sure not sure about the haunted bar um when it comes to the 27 club I I don't believe I'd write a book on that because a man called Mark Devlin um has written a number of books already um in his musical truth uh trilogy um so he's wrote quite extensively on the topic already and and he's well he's well worth a read on his musical truth books because he used to be a DJ himself uh before becoming um becoming a truth seeker and he's aware of all this um because he he used to do it himself.
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:08.800
Um not not not to uh do anything evil obviously but like he used to work in the music industry and was a DJ so and he writes extensively on that topic.
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.800
So that is something that you're gonna collab with him on you're saying?
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.920
No no so no I'm not gonna collaborate.
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:22.800
He's already wrote a number of books on that topic so I think um when it comes to that topic it's yeah it's like oversaturated you're saying okay.
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:31.199
Yeah it's oversaturated he he he's done very excellent work in that area so I recommend just reading his books on that topic.
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.239
Okay so you just like you like to read and not have to write about that.
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:56.000
Yeah that's how I feel about a lot of topics on my podcast is that a lot of topics are oversaturated and you kind of I just thought maybe if if you had like a different spin on the 27 club so the place that I'm talking about in Los Angeles California is the Chateau Marmont and that is a very interesting place.
00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:36.719
I have done a couple um podcast episodes but that really ties in with that 27 club too but like you said it's been done so many times but I can't not wait to hear about your you know new and upcoming books that you're gonna write because I'm sure that hamster wheel in your brain's always spinning right yeah I've got a number of things I want to write about uh so like how how the government in infiltrates like left wing organizations or distributed organizations to uh to systematize them and get people to inform on them so they know what's going on so I want to look into that as well and how how basically how the government spies on us.
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.599
That's awesome.
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:49.119
Well thank you so much for hopping on today I know it was so difficult for us to coordinate this to happen.
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Um you guys he is in England so he's four hours what ahead of me you said right well um I'm it's 7 p.m for me now about 10 minutes to seven okay okay now have you ever been here um in the States over here like have you traveled?
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.719
Yeah yeah about ten years ago I was in Las Vegas.
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:16.400
Oh did you have fun I had fun yeah it was good okay okay now what do you think about our food?
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:24.480
Be honest I I think the portions are quite a lot bigger than I was expecting.
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.119
Uh but other than that it was quite nice yeah.
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:34.000
Yeah okay now I enjoyed the food when we were over um in England that was what year?
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:40.480
We're in 2026 so that was in 2022 I think we went.
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:52.239
When when I had breakfast I asked for a cup of tea and it the server goes, you know the mud's cold you know like it's supposed to be cold.
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.239
And they didn't really like it was it must have thought because it's a hot drink.
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:03.599
You can't have colds in it but a cold something like cold milk in it but like I'm not quite sure what they were trying to get there.
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:11.039
Oh yeah because you guys I know when we were over your weight they don't um like nothing's really refrigerated the drinks, right?
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:25.199
Well yeah the milk is yeah so the milk is yeah so but obvious you put milk in the tea but obviously the tea's hot and the milk's cold so maybe she got confused with the find out you put something cold in or something hot.
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:25.760
I don't know.
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.079
Oh yeah I that's how I drink my tea.
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.159
I like milk and honey in it actually.
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:30.960
Yeah.
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:45.039
Yeah I mean it was uh it was quite the experience we did so much when we were over and I tried so hard to get to get a hold of um I did get a hold of a Paranormal research society over yearway but I didn't have time.
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.360
I actually ended up getting really sick too when I was there but it was only for a couple days.
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:58.000
It was COVID of course um because I had just I gotten the vaccination to go over there but yeah I would love to come there again.
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:15.519
I'm a huge Amy Winehouse fan so I didn't make it to her grave I really wanted to but there's just so much over that way for us Americans to do and I'm sure you guys probably feel the same way probably maybe sometimes over here too it's just travel right now is really it's expensive you know what I mean?
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:46.880
Yeah so uh when I was uh um go it's it's a mass obviously Merc is a massive player but sometimes I wanted to go on uh the organized coach uh excursions that would take six hours to get there I was like no I don't think so uh I I was I was in um the uh Area 51 I think it was called Area 51 yeah the aliens Little Amy Inn and so it's got I think it's in a restaurant called the Little Amy Inn.
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.840
And I wanted to go there but it would take a couple of hours to get there.
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.360
It's like I don't think so.
00:43:54.239 --> 00:44:00.800
Well if you're gonna go anywhere when you're back over in Vegas, isn't it in um is it Nevada no Nevada.
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:01.599
Where is it at?
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:02.559
New Mexico.
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.480
The Alien Museum.
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:05.920
Yeah.
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:06.400
Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.880
Because Roswell is really where it started.
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:18.800
I would rather go Roswell area than, you know, like the museum and actually kind of like go on foot by myself.
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:19.840
I would totally do it.
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:33.519
I know my husband probably would not be down to do that, but um, now they're saying the area 51 isn't even anything with aliens, that it was just secret mission stuff, and it was, you know, shit that they wanted hidden, and they just always wanted you to think that there was aliens.
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:34.079
So who knows?
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:35.679
You know, everything's a conspiracy.
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.719
Well, if you ever come over here, I mean you could go wendolson forest.
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:50.960
Oh, I went to now the British uh museum I went to, I was kind of ups okay.
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.960
I'm gonna I'm gonna be very honest with you.
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:59.840
I was a little sad with the lack of mummies because that's what I went there for.
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:03.519
I was like, show me the mummies, you know, all the from Egypt.
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:14.639
And I didn't really they only had I think they had maybe three or four displays, but I know I was told my mother-in-law said that there was something at that point.
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:25.280
Um, they had to buy back because whatever was stolen, so they were getting stuff back there, and maybe I'm sure there's a lot more there now because it's been at least four or five years since I've been there.
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:27.280
Okay.
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:33.280
So that's really what and I did run some apps in the museum to see if I got any cool stuff.
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.239
Um, I did have a few things that came through.
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.239
I did find some books there.
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.079
Um, I loved, you know, it was nice.
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.199
It was it was a great day to walk around and look at things.
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:48.079
Um, but I would say I wanted more, I wanted more of that.
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:48.719
You know what I mean?
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.400
That's but I didn't know that there was alien stuff in England, too.
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.000
I've got to write this down.
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.000
What part of England were you in?
00:45:58.400 --> 00:45:58.960
London.
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.360
And then we went, um, oh my god, where else did we go?
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:11.599
We went to um we spent the day, we went everywhere because we were there for two weeks.
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.920
No, we were there for 10, 11 days.
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.360
Normandy, we went to um oh my goodness.
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We went everywhere.
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We stayed in three different places.
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I think we're gonna go back though, more Ireland, I think.
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Um, we're gonna go from London to Ireland in like three years.
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So I gotta go through all my pictures, but we what it was kind of a crazy time.
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The reason why I can't remember all everything, and I always have to resort back to like my videos, is there was a crazy storm that came through here, Detroit, right?
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Detroit, Michigan.
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My husband and I got onto the plane, we got there, and then my in-laws were, I think, so they live in Kentucky, and then my sister-in-law is in the Marine Corps in Washington, DC.
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So I can't remember if they were flying out of DC or if they were flying out of Kentucky, but they got hit really bad with the storm, so they were like a few days delayed.
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So Paul and I were alone, and thank God my husband can like read you know key maps or whatever because I was like so lost.
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But um Paul and I ended up doing the catacombs alone, which was cool.
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Catacombs was super, super, super cool.
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Um, but yeah, we were kind of just like in limbo for a few days, and then by the time that my in-laws got there, we met up, like, and we just went like go, go, go, go, go.
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We were always on a train.
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So there's just so much we did.
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It was like overload.
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We walked and walked and walked and just kept taking trains, and we'd eat at this place, go here, stay the night at this place, go to this other place.
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So there was so much that we did.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, it was fun though.
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I had a great time, minus getting COVID because I got a pretty high fever.
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But the coolest thing is that my husband walked over to the um, what do they call it?
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It's like a pharmacy, but they there's doctors there, and they gave him these pills, they were like yellow, and I think they had like stripes on them.
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I still have the box upstairs somewhere in my room, but they told him just have her take these, tell her to take like three, and then take two, and then take four later, whatever.
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That knocked my fever right out.
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That was the best medication I've ever had.
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I was up and walking miles like five, six hours later.
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Right.
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I was like, hell yeah.
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Well, good money, so you came uh uh the blue time with uh COVID, and did did was there a lockdown as well?
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Was there what?
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A lockdown due to COVID.
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No, we came right after COVID happened, but it was still kind of they were pretty strict.
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Um, we had to show them our cards and stuff.
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So I mean people were still wearing masks.
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Um but I must have gotten sick from traveling, like in between, and my sister-in-law got sick too.
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So it was just a crazy time.
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I loved it.
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I would love I want I'm looking forward to going back because then we can kind of like take our time, you know.
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I mean, because we were so rushed on doing everything because 11 days really isn't a lot of time, you know.
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No, it's it's not really, is it?
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No, no, but I I mean I really really enjoyed it.
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The flight was great.
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I mean, it wasn't as long.
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I mean, my husband used to be stationed in Hawaii, so I was used to longer flights, but I mean, it was really smooth, honestly.
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It was a smooth, it was smooth getting there or smooth coming home.
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I mean, I I really enjoyed it.
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We all did.
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We had a lot of fun.
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Yeah, I I had a lot of fun in uh Vegas as well.
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Uh I've actually gotten all there next week sometime uh to Malta.
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Uh so that's a country near Italy.
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Oh, cool.
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You're gonna go back next week?
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No, it's I'm working at a place called a country called Malta.
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Oh, Malta.
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Yeah, Malta.
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That's a place near Italy.
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That's awesome, and it's gonna be hot there, right?
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I hope so, yeah.
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It's quite it in England it's raining and tall right now with some strong winds, so I'm hoping for a bit of nice weather.
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No, you guys have like fall right now too, right?
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Cooler weather.
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Yeah, so it's uh it's winter weather now, so we're getting into winter now.
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Okay, okay.
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Yeah, we went in August.
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It's normally nice in August.
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It's not normally nice, sorry.
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It's it's nice uh nice.
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Well, we I loved it.
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I mean, we had a lot of fun, everybody was very nice.
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But yeah, well, happy early birthday too.
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.079
You got a birthday coming up, so you're Scorpio.
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.280
Yeah, and November the 11th is my birthday.
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.599
Oh, your birthday's on the 11th.
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That's that's a really good number, you know.
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Yeah, remembrance day as well.
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That's awesome.
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Well, I am so appreciative that we got to do this today.
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And, you know, I love, love, love, love having you guys back on.
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:39.840
Um, anytime your schedule opens up, and if there's something you want to talk about or you want to talk about your new book coming out, um, I would love for you to contact me and you know, let's set up another podcast.
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.599
Yeah, I could do that if I once I have another uh book.
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:48.719
I'll I've got I can introduce you some people uh you might want to talk to as well.
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:53.360
Like books so if you need in need of any guests, you could do that.
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:54.400
Oh, absolutely.
00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:00.239
I hey anyone that ever wants to come on and and talk and anything weird, conspiracy, anything.
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I'm I'm always I'm open for it.
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.159
I love having guests on.
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:05.840
Right, good.
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.840
So uh yeah, um so I've got a few uh I found that might run.
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.360
I'll I'll send you an email with it in details and you can have a look and see what you want to want.
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:16.320
Cool.
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:17.280
That sounds great.
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Well, thanks again for hopping on, Wayne.
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It was very nice meeting you, talking with you.
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Yeah, okay.
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Okay, well, you take care.
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I'll we'll be chatting soon, okay?
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:29.599
Okay, all right, thank you.
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Bye.
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:35.119
All right, everyone.
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.039
Again, um, sometimes on phone interviews it's hard to hear somebody.
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It sounded a little um distorted, so I tried to edit it enough and sharpen it up, and I hope that works.
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:50.000
Um, just go ahead and flip up your volume a little more so you can really hear Wayne.
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:51.679
Uh, that was a great interview.
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:57.519
Really enjoyed him talking about his book and the comparison to Snake Eyes movie with Nicolas Cage.
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And I will be watching that movie because I have not seen it in a long time.
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So um, when I do watch it again, I will be emailing um Wayne back to tell him like, hey, now I see all these little hidden gems.
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:16.320
So, again, you guys, if you want to get a hold of me, you know Ghost Sisters2124 at Gmail.
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.440
Again, that's Ghost Sisters2124 at Gmail.
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:26.960
And again, you guys can hop right on to the Buzz Sprout site and you can directly message me and you can leave me a voicemail.
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All right, you guys, we'll be chatting soon.