Trusting Your Mediumship: Stop Thinking, Start Feeling | The Mediumship Sessions #4

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Donna King, welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Hello, Jason.
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Hello.
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Oh, it's lovely to have you back. We're here on the Mediumship Sessions and today we are discussing Mediumship. We have arrived. We have arrived at the doorway of all things the spirit world. I am excited.
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Yeah, it's sort of like the main hub of what we do in my world.
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Mmm, it is.
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So, I guess, to begin with, you know, we've talked a bit so far about psychic, about understanding your energy, about becoming aware, and you're gonna be… Every listener is going to have a different experience here. Some of you are going to be, you know, very familiar with the spirit world, having been, you know, even a medium for a while. But I think there is something beautiful sometimes in going back to basics, going back to the start and really understanding what mediumship kind of looks and feels like.
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I guess the first thing is, you know, you might be having experiences at the moment, you might be what we call, starting to awaken, you might be having spiritual experiences. Hopefully you're, Dining room lamp isn't swinging around, your car keys aren't going missing, and there's not things like that happening to you, but I guess to begin with.
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The thing to observe is every single person who has a relationship with the spirit world, that relationship is personal because mediumship is a creative expression of the soul. Is it not?
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It is, and you know, as we're all individual, the experiences we'll have in the way we develop will also be, you know, individual, you know, what I feel, for one, in where my mediumship might come in, may be very different for somebody else. I remember establishing that with Spirit, because it used to be all over the place, and I was like, right, give me doors. And so now I get my guides come in on my right, and my mediumship comes in on my left, and everything else just comes through me in the middle.
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Along with the sense of knowing, that comes through the middle somewhere as well.
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So even what you're saying there about the guides being on one side, the spirit person being on another, you have developed that over time, and it's when you start.
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discovering, unfolding, developing, whatever adjective you want to use, your mediumship.
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I remember in the early days.
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the spirit world, the way they would communicate with me, and I've always been very strong, clairvoyantly. I must say, my mediumship is always on my right. I don't know if that seems to be the common side, because I'm sure that's the side of everyone, but I know when the spirit world are beside me.
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And this started pretty much from the very beginning.
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There is always physical sensations in mediumship is the first thing I want to say, but I get this like, I want to call it like a pulsating, a vibrating, I might even use the word throbbing. It doesn't sound like a particularly nice word.
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If you leave us at this junction of the episode, it's fine, we understand. But, no, I get, like, a twitching of my right temple, and that… signifies to me that the spirit world is around me, and even for a very long time, I wouldn't know who was around me, but I would know that there was spirit people or guides around me by the sensation in that right temple, and I won't forget, actually.
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When my dad was very… unwell, in hospital, in a coma. I… my… the right side of my head, you know, was… I was a complete wreck, obviously, at that point anyway, in that situation, but I kind of felt so overwhelmed in that sense… in that moment, because of the sense… the physical sensations I was having.
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And actually.
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That was overwhelming in itself because it kind of signified to me at that point that I knew that he was gonna.
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passed to the other world. I just knew that, I knew that. So, when you first start discovering your mediumship, and, you know, one of the first things that you really need to do, which I think is the absolute bedrock Of, mediumship which we've spoken about so many times on this podcast is sitting and starting that journey of.
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I guess I would even say it's like making room for spirit because how can the spirit world come in and you be aware of them if you're living your absolute normal life.
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Pedal to the metal, doing work all the time, you've got a busy mind, well, where is the spirit world gonna drop into that?
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, without sitting, you're sort of not allowing a doorway for the growth in that relationship to expand.
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for me, I don't necessarily… obviously, the development I'm at, at the stage where I am in my life, you know, and for many, there'll be a great, you know, sense or expansion of energy, and just, you know, the sensation of knowing What's coming in? What's there? And then maybe stepping into the, you know, harness that energy, that power, whatever you're comfortable calling it.
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To be able to move through it and, and work per se.
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When we talk, and this is the thing, when we talk about the power.
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And.
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You know, like I said, I've talked about the power till I'm blue in the face, but it's so important. When we talk about the power, we are talking about the power of you.
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The power of your soul. It's not somewhere you have to go and plug into, and need to have a travel adapter for, or need to, you know, make sure you've got an extension lead that's long enough. You'll be glad to know that this power is an internal power.
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And at the beginning, I'll be quite honest with you, I couldn't get my head around what the bloody hell the power was. And then when I did understand what it was, I couldn't understand why sometimes I could feel the sensation of it on and other times it was off.
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And that, that is the foundation of What you need to really first establish is what that power feels like. And because it's so individual, you know, we could sit here now and I could say, okay, what, how would you describe what your power is if you were going to describe it? Because I would say it is… Okay, vibrationally, I can feel when I'm in the power, because, there's an expansion, I would say. I can feel that my energy is quickening, and I can normally feel it by virtue of subtle, subtle… I would have to call it a quickening of energy, but you know when you're in it because you feel, funnily enough, powerful. You know, who would have thought sitting in the power could invoke such feelings? How would you describe it? Because it's so personal.
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Yeah, very similar to you, and notably, you know, sitting in your own power of, you know, your psychic intuition, sitting with your guides, and sitting in the power of your mediumship. They all, for me, energetically feel very different.
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There's a very clear distinction, so if I'm sitting in the power of me, just like you said, there is almost, I don't know if it's a shift of feeling powerful, but I feel like I'm sitting within myself better. There's a, you know, there's an expansion in who I am. I can feel my energy shift outwards, you know, And just, like, it's all, like, you know, little… little strands of a star moving out and picking up on everything else that's radiating around me, which is a very pretty way of describing it. But, there is, you know, there is… the element of the power is the power.
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But for me, it's like a growth in it, it's about feeling like I'm sitting wholly within myself and in the trueness and the authenticity of who I am, Yeah, and that, I mean, it's, it's a, it's a wonderful place to be and it's a brilliant way to start the day.
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It's a great way to start the day because it gives you, insight, it gives you a feeling of Well, I was saying this to you only the other day, when I sit in the morning, it kind of gives me my roadmap For the day. But, I think… one of the difficulties is we're very hard on ourself, and at this very early stage of… sitting, understanding your energy. You know, the first battle for me when I used to sit was, it took me quite a while to really feel that I understood what the power was, I understood whether I'm in it or not, because the very first juncture for me, before I could even Think about, you know, flicking me power switch on, so to speak, was to actually be able to quiet my mind enough to even.
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be able to concentrate on doing that. And I would say that, you know, especially if you've got ADHD mind, I think you mustn't look at the mind as an enemy, because when you first start sitting in meditation, or sitting with the intention of building your power.
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we have busy minds, and if you're, going from the busyness of your day working, and then you're sitting down, and I remember, I used to make myself laugh now when I think back, I would say, right, okay, I'm gonna sit every day at half eight, and then it would get to about nine o'clock.
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And I would say, right, I haven't sat now, and I'd think, oh, right, I need to sit, I need to sit. So I'd sit for 10 minutes, And… I'd sort of almost be dragging my feet to do it, because it's like, oh, it's a discipline thing, and I used to have, signs stuck all around my house saying, sit in the power, sit in the power, Funny enough, when I cleared off my fridge the other day, there was loads of them. I was thinking, my God, how many signs have I got all around my house? But it took me a long time to even be able to quiet the mind enough, and even if we go back to the pioneers of mediumship all those years ago, 100 years ago, or whatever. They would understand this, because they would sit for so long, over such a protracted long period of time, to really understand what their power felt like before even trying To go about making a link. Now, I'm not saying you need to do that because I am fully aware that we live in the YouTube world and if you are tuning in now and, you know, probably if you were tuning in now and you want the absolute honest answer, I would say to you, sit for a year before even attempting it, but I know damn well that anyone listening to this is not going to heed that advice.
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Because, we don't live in that type of world now. We live in a world where we're lacking in patience, but I, that's why I often think that trance is a great Doorway in to mediumship because it allows you to really understand the power and as, as a physical medium, you know, you know, what's your thoughts on that because it's, it's, it's that art of being able to sit.
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Understand your power and, and understand how to build it and most importantly is how to hold it.
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Yeah, I mean, that, yeah, that's, I mean, it's quite a long journey within that, you know, for me, obviously, it's been a lifetime of learning to do that. But I will say, obviously, you know, we live in a very different world to what our pioneers did. We've got a lot more distractions, we have to work a lot harder to pay the bills.
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So time is very limited, for people in the way that, you know, they move forward within their abilities, and you do have to make the time. You know, they say, Ian's saying, isn't there, if you can't sit for 5, sit for 20. But just allowing yourself that time for that expansion, because Within the movement of, you know, taking the time and discipline to do so becomes the group within the work, And for me, very much, the time that I allowed, and I have allowed, because there's been times when I've been very undisciplined in what I do, but spirit.
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I've always said they've learned to work with me, because me, like you, I mean, I got diagnosed ADHD at my son's ADHD appointment many moons ago, so me, like you, have a very active mind, and, you know, I have had, you know, a teacher I respected, questions she said I've had to challenge spirit on, how do you sit in that state in trance, you know.
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When your mind's so active. And sometimes they will just learn to work with you, because again, we are all individuals, so they will learn to do what's needed. And obviously, as a child, you know, I sort of… there was no better place, often emotionally, there was no better place for me to be. You know, I lived in a very quiet world, I was very… Anyway, it's funny if anybody knows me now because I'm a good communicator and can talk to anybody. But up to the age of 11, it was literally I was very quiet. I barely spoke. And so I often would just be talking to spirit for more than I spoke to people.
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So it was about my development in the way I established myself and taking the time to do that as an adult now, an adult now.
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Like I haven't been for long, but keep the inner child happy and, you know, the, the joy will come, but as, you know, as I've grown older, I definitely find that finding that discipline within my life is imperative.
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Because if you want to make that connection, then you need to give them a door, and just by doing that. But always being gentle with yourself, because I think we are some of the, you know, the hardest people on ourselves within our development, because when we start kicking ourselves, you know, like, how many signs did you need to put? I mean, that was you literally saying.
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Come on, Jason, do it, do it, you know, to encourage yourself to do that. But we have to be gentle with ourselves because… Spirit wouldn't be hard on us, you know, they would… they would only be gentle and encourage that growth, and, you know, they know better the road we're on than we do.
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They do, and I feel that… We, we all have an expectation, when we, get into mediumship and we're all coming into it for different reasons and I feel that if you want to start developing this relationship, With your spirit team or you want to go down this path of mediumship, first of all, you need to ask yourself why you actually want to do that. Are you feeling an internal calling? Are you feeling a sense of curiosity? Because it does take time, but actually I found the art of sitting and even mediumship in itself, because I think I feel mediumship in every single.
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side of it, whether it's for the spirit person, or whether it's for the, Medium themselves, is healing. And I know myself, it's healed me in so many ways. Even the art of being able to quiet my mind, and… and have control, to some degree, over you know, my mind being quieter. That's taken a long time, but I did find that it was like a penny-drop moment one day where I thought, oh my goodness, you know, I'm starting to be able to get the hang of this. But by virtue of doing that, it helped me in so many other areas, because I feel that at the time, I first came into this world.
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My anxiety was at a particularly high level. I was running… A very stressful business, working crazy long hours.
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And then I look back now, and I would sit, and I would go, why can't I get things to switch off? Why does that keep coming around in my head? And I was very hard on myself, I was incredibly hard on myself, like, almost, why can't you do this? And, I remember saying for a long time, I said, I just don't think meditation is for me, but then I did find my own way of… Doing it and my own way at the beginning was accepting that actually my form of meditation was like being in nature and that allowed me the kind of Opportunity to quiet my mind in that moment and actually 1 thing I really found helped me in those early days and I, I've actually just gone back to using them now.
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is binaural beats. They seem to be very effective with me. I'm very effective, very, sensitive to sound in every degree, but sound healing works an absolute treat with me. Oh my goodness, it's so funny. So I used to, when I was really unwell with, psychosis, I went to see this guy called, Eddie, and I… my mum had sent me for all sorts of therapies, acupuncture, this, that, the other, and Eddie was this sound healer guy, and he, basically lies you on his table, he starts, using just his mouth to make all these crazy sounds.
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and sends you into, like, almost like a trance. But the funny thing was, about 6 months ago, I thought, oh, I'll get Eddie to come over to my house. And I sort of completely failed to take into account how loud he is, because I had only ever seen him in a treatment room before.
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And I just kept thinking to myself, oh my god, what the hell must my neighbours be thinking next door as he's going, wong, wong, wong. I thought they must think I'm, I live in some sort of, like, crazy cult or something next door. But yes, the art, so the first, very first stage of mediumship, is you've got to be able to give the spirit world that window to come through. If you are expecting… and the spirit world do give us signs. A lot of people, and myself included, get signs in their day-to-day life, and I always feel that that's the spirit world trying to grab us. It's trying to grab our attention to say, look.
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You know, we want to, that's their way of almost trying to cut through the noise of your day-to-day by, by performing some, act of a miracle, some synchronicity or some coincidence, so.
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Off the chart and amazing, in the way that it's delivered, but that's their way of grabbing your attention because also if the spirit world were to start.
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in the very early stage, communicating with you through one of the faculties they use, your imagination, your clairvoyance. Would you even… Stop to acknowledge that that wasn't a thought of your own, no, because at the very beginning your level of awareness is, is, is probably not.
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Nowhere near that level of old, some people might be getting that and, and you, if you are experiencing that kind of, sign synchronicities, things going on, you know, where you know that you've got spirit around you, perhaps you might have awakened, so to speak, very quickly and then that, but that can also be troubling at the same time because if these things are happening to you and you're sensing things and you don't understand why.
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It's like, I used to think a Kundalini awakening sounded massive, like, all of a sudden, oh, I'm awake to everything! But actually, I've changed my mind on that now, because I've interviewed so many people that have actually said it's really traumatic, one day this just happening. So you've got to give the spirit world Room and an opportunity, to be able to reach you.
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Yeah, and that is the thing, I mean.
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I'm just thinking of what you've just said, the, clairaudience.
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The clairsentience, you know, the clairgust, all of the clairs we naturally live with.
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So Spirit will use them, and often it is sort of the sight and the sense that they use first. And I do believe, you're absolutely right, that if you're on a journey of, you know, Spirit opening you up to this spiritual development, it will kind of go a little bit crazy, and you will feel hypersensitive in that.
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Because, you know, there's a… all of a sudden, there's, like, a light bulb gone on, this awareness that there's more, that I am more, because you've started paying attention to all of your clairs, so to speak.
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Which can be slightly overwhelming, you know, and often, you know, your best bet, again, is to sort of sit and allow yourself to just feel and trust, you know, where am I going? What is going on here? You know, I mean, I hate all that cliche of, like, closing down. It is just a matter of mentally telling yourself. People love to overcomplicate the spiritual world, and You know, it's ego and unfortunately we all have it as humans. But you know, there's no need to overcomplicate. It's as simple as, okay, well, we're going to shut that down now.
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You know, as simple as we're going to say, right, I'm in my power, and that's as simple as it is. It is that simple, you know? There's no need to overcomplicate that part of the journey as you move into, you know, the development of your mediumship, because often people will sense, oh, I feel like I can feel my nan with me.
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Well, you absolutely can.
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Well, you're a great teacher. I always remember in the really early days how I was getting lost. I would sit down.
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And I would say, right, okay, I feel the way I'm building the power here is I need to get the light within, I need to start breathing, the light gets bigger, then I need to push my energy out. Oh, no, before I push my energy out… I need to smooth the energy down. I remember one medium teacher saying to me, she's a very nice lady, very nice lady. And this was the period where I was trying to find the right teacher. And I noticed that at the very beginning of my journey, I was getting taught by technical mediums rather than mediums that lead from the heart. And I was getting lost in that world because all it was doing was putting me in my head so I'd be sitting there and I'm sure a lot of people listening to this can relate I'd sit there and I'd say right okay now I'm so the first thing I need to do is I need to smooth the energy out because my energy is obviously Jagged from the day that I've had so once I'd started this process of smoothing I would push it out and then through that process of pushing it out I believe at the quickening of that Now, the problem with all of this is the whole time all I'm doing is thinking and trying to do these things that I believe are building the power. Now, the difficulty is when you say this, and obviously I'm saying this now from a very different place of knowledge, experience, and expertise, but I understand now that when I'm building the power that the spirit world are going to use, what I am am doing is I am pushing my energy out, because I can feel it. But the difference being now, when I do it, is I'm not thinking about it. So as I'm breathing in and I'm breathing out, I'm feeling The energy just expanding and getting bigger and going outwards, but the difference being before I would be thinking it and I would be dipping between thinking and feeling, thinking and feeling, thinking and feeling and.
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But I can understand the difficulty with that because what is actually happening on a technical.
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Level is your energy is expanding, but the way that you need to do that requires nothing more than a thought and an intention, and I remember you saying to me.
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A few, it feels like a lifetime ago now, but just shows how long life, you know, sort of passes and how far, you know, I've developed. You said to me, right, ok.
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This is how you need to get the power on, and at this point, I was like, am I in the power, am I out the power, why can I not feel the power? And you said, power on! And I thought, oh, right, power off! And I thought, oh, my goodness me, I did feel that! I could feel that subtle difference there! Power on! Oh yeah, I'm on again. Off, off. And I thought, yes, you know, you kept it simple! But… That's the thing with mediumship, it is simple but it's, it's, it's the journey of the self and it's the journey of your own.
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Understanding and development because it is a hard one to get your head around and it's a hard thing when you're even starting out if for you to say, if for us to say to someone now all you need to do.
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To get the spirit world around you right now to feel them is to say power on. You can't help the humanness of you, can't help but feeling that that's too simple and not enough.
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Yeah, I mean, it takes a moment, you know, you need to just sit, pause, take a few breaths, you know, I'm in my power.
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I'm out my power because you will notice the subtle shift, and you know, you, you mentioned it, I mean, we all teach from where we are in our level of experience and understanding and our beliefs, so When I laughed previously, it wasn't, you know, for anybody's thing, it was just like, for me, there is, it's always been so, so people make it so complicated.
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Well, you're laughing because I'm being very clear.
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Yeah.
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Wavertype.
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mean.
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Yes, I'm…
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I just don't, you know, I wouldn't want to…
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Entertainment show, Donna!
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People are listening to me.
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high.
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Yeah, because, you know, we're all where we're meant to be on our journey, you know, and everybody plays their part and I, you know, true, true believer of that, so.
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But it is as simple as that, you know, people do, people do, the human mind loves to overcomplicate and the thing is, is we forget as humans how intelligent the spirit world are. I mean, it's beyond our human comprehension.
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You know, I've mentioned in previous podcasts about, you know, the feeling of touching it, you know, the human emotions that we can feel are just but a grain of sand in the expansion of spirit, you know? So, it's the same within that development, you know, but it is just… Take them few, five deep breaths.
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Sit, tell yourself, I'm in my power, I'm out my power, and just notice a subtle shift. Another lovely move that I was taught once by a wonderful medium is to place your hand on your heart, because it centers you, it brings you in. Especially with the lives we lead, the mind runs riot, you know, and it is a hard thing to quiet the chatter, if you like.
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And.
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But by doing that, you just allow yourself to become more centered. I mean, it is… for those that sit too heavily in the mind, very logical people, that really this journey isn't for, they may not notice the change in the energy. But for those that are aware to it, and open to it, and open to the spiritual journey, and feel that they've been led, and there's a calling to it, then they should Notice the difference.
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Yes, so… and I actually feel that a really good experiment to do, and, I know I keep promising the lovely listeners here a meditation, which will come, hopefully it'll be out by the time you listen to this episode. If it's not, I apologize, it's coming soon. But I actually feel that one of the most effective ways For me, in the early days of really getting used to what the actual presence of spirit would feel like, would be to say, yeah, sit down, power on! And, you know, then I'd allow myself time to boot up like an old piece. I mustn't say things like this because it's not helpful to the dear listener who's thinking, okay, what do I need to do? Yeah, I would say power on and then I would invite my guides to draw close and then I would ask them to step back and then I would ask them to draw close. Then I would ask them to step back. My goodness, our guides are patient with us, aren't they? Because I must have done that.
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In some sit-downs, 30 times, right? Back, forward, back, forward, and they must have full blood. You know, come on, man! This is driving us nuts!
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But…
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That, for me, mine was about really developing that, and I think it's the same for a lot of us, it was about developing that trust. And I remember, in the very early days of sitting, I would sense something, and it would make me jump, because I would have an undercurrent of fear, you know, I'd be thinking, oh, is this a good spirit, is this a bad spirit? And I would be sitting, you know, really putting an emphasis on, the roots on the bottom of my feet, grounding me into the earth before I'd even begin. But on that note.
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What is, in your mind, good spiritual hygiene? Because I was even reading a book last night which is talking about Ascended Masters in this book.
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I was reading it and it was making such a big point of protection and I was sitting there and, you know, you, you always feel a certain way about things. I was feeling like, what are you protecting yourself from?
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against… And I can only see, even with ascended masters, maybe you're protecting yourself against an overload of energy, but then I think, well, what… why would you need protection? I can understand the need to re-ground.
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And to ground yourself after going into an experience like that, but for me personally, I don't feel the need to place myself in some sort of bubble of eternal protection when I do this, because I don't think there's anything I need protecting from.
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Absolutely. I don't know where that concept's come from, but I've had many through the years.
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And obviously, again, it's about people's development and where they are and what they learn in different ways and their perception of things. I mean, you know, I'd hasten to say that, you know, maybe you've heard I've had a bad life, but I've been through many traumas in my life.
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But I don't feel that there's anything that I need to protect myself in regards to my spirituality. I trust very much in, you know, myself and my own soul.
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Things will be exactly what they're meant to be within that, you know, there's, it takes a level of awareness and a level of learning but for some that may be.
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You know, a door that suits them, they feel that they need to protect themselves from something, some people have this very vast concept, you know, because obviously in the human world we have good and bad people and, you know, people don't totally just, you don't turn into angels when you go to home, it just doesn't work like that, but I have great faith in my team and myself that, you know, what's meant to be kept up, they will, you know, so I've never, you know, I don't believe that's something we need to think about or.
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Or, or even do, and I think again, it's a little bit to do with human, human ego, in that people haven't got better things to do than come and bother you,
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Well, I also believe as well, I do believe that there are dense, not very positive energies out there. I believe there's souls that have done, you know, not very nice things in their time on the Earth plane, and I believe that certain souls can get… kind of get stuck and… and through their own What's the way I want to phrase this, through their own choice, can choose to, can choose to not, move forward to the next stage of their development or go to a life review because they can't bear.
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to, look at the life, and the way that they might have touched, and the ripple of how they affected people for the not-so-positive when they were down here. But I believe that if you were sitting.
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with the right intentions, and you are a wholehearted person going into this for the right reasons. You will never attract, negative entities because of the fact that you are such a bright light.
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and, you know, the darkness, fear, things like that, don't attract to, don't want to go near the light, because it, quite frankly, it absolutely blinds them. But I've never, in all my time, had something that… Isn't nice, but I'll tell you something, fear is a funny old thing because I got this new ghost hunting tool, on recommendation of a friend yesterday, this iPhone tool, and I must admit, bloody expensive, though, this one, so I was expecting good things when I downloaded it. I've got a few of them, but I downloaded this app called Deadwave.
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After a medium was telling me about it and it's got all these different EMF modes and it's got one particular mode, which is like, you know, the old fashioned TVs that you get the aerial when it's a bit fuzzy, it uses that kind of, mode to basically scan the airwaves, to the, it's like an analog video and you can see things in it.
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But when I put one of those ghost hunt machines on, I always find that there is an undercurrent of fear when I do that, because it makes me jump those things. And it's funny, because I'm a medium talking to spirit all the time.
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But if I was doing it with someone, no. But I put it on in my house yesterday, and I said, is there anybody there? And… do you find, when you ever listen to those things, the voice never comes through like a nice gentleman saying, oh, hello, good afternoon to you, because it's coming through, you know, through the radio waves or whatever, it's like, yep, yep, yep, hello, and it's very… it makes you jump, and it's amazing how fear… you know, gets in the way of, this work, this development, the ability to sit. But, you know, it's… and it depends on what experiences you've had prior to coming in this. Like, I always laugh, and I have said this on the podcast before.
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But… When I first started sitting, I think part of the reason why I was so jumpy was because my previous experiences of spirit up until that point had been on ghost hunts. And I remember my the last ghost hunt I ever went on before I started developing my mediumship was an all night ghost hunt for my birthday at Shepton Mallet Prison, where we started the night looking at the.
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In essence the torture rooms then we went to the shooting range then we went to the bit of the prison where they'd have to do Labor walking along these ramp sort of wooden hamster wheels to power the prison and then we got to the point where There were cell doors slamming and then they said we're going to the hanging room Next of all and I said no mom. I need to get out of here now. I've had enough of this I can't bear to be here another 3 hours.
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But, because I'm scared! But that has a bearing, doesn't it, on how we feel about something before we go into it. So we're debunking this today, but we don't feel there's anything to be scared of. And what I want to say about sitting as well is… One thing that I really feel.
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Is there is so much available to us in this world, that we can manifest, that we can create, that we can access.
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You know, in its very simplest form, yes, you can manifest material possessions, whatever. And loads of you listening to this are going to have had lots of success, have manifested houses, cars, things that you want.
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But up when you sit, you can access different levels of consciousness, ascended masters, your guides, the spirit world. The list is endless, but it all starts with the ability to sit.
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And you know, when I used to sit, I used to always sit with an expectation. Oh, can you give me this today, Spirit? Can I have a bit of this? Or can I have a bit of healing today? Or can you give me a sign today? And I used to think to myself, expectation, you know, these days I don't sit really with any expectation because I always feel that I'm robbing the intelligence of that, of the world that is so intelligent, the world, the world that is so intelligent, the world of spirit, because.
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If I sit with an intention, I'm limiting what is available to me because will the spirit world, if you say, if you ever see it, with You know, an expectation. The spirit world are never going to give you something that you haven't asked for unless you're creating a condition to say to them, I'm open to what you feel like I need to receive. So you really are in the driving seat of this, aren't you?
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You are, and it's actually true with, you know, spirit have to respect you as an individual and a soul and a spirit, you know, as we are as well, on their journey, so, you know, for healing, you don't ask, you don't get, because again, they can't intervene, so it is.
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Is, you know, very much, a learning and development and a, you know, a team effort.
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in that.
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And, with it there shouldn't come any fear because, you know, if you're trusted in yourself and in your journey and what you felt and those you love, then the element of fear will be eradicated with time in the learning and understanding of that within your own energy. And you spoke about voices, I mean, the spirit brought me back to my early, early, early 20s, My two youngest, I only had two kids then, were singing and dancing, tiny, to a song that said love you in it.
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And I played back the video and on that phone recording was, "Love you." Now, had it not been them words, it would have sounded demonic. It was almost terrifying.
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But I just knew they was leaving me, you know, what they said was, you know, love you. And I just knew that they was trying to lead me somewhere. And that actually is how I found the college.
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And that was what they wanted me to find. So, you know, I mean, I'm not sure about the paranormal apps, but I think that vibration of feeling slightly fearful of what the… is the unexpected, isn't it? I think that's what brings in that feeling sometimes for people, you know?
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Well, it's a catch-22, because it's the, not knowing, but… just continued to draw me so much into the spirit world it was an absolute crazy irrational fear of death that I felt that I needed to know exactly where I was going you know just typical Jason absolutely nosy as hell can't just accept that you know death is I'm gonna go to the spirit world I want to know absolutely everything about it and I must admit one thing that I always absolutely fine, but I'm so drawn to.
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Is, books that describe from the spirit person's perspective. So a lot of the trance books, a lot of the silver birch books, a lot of the, what's the other one called?
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Estelle Roberts that brought through, begins with R now, but it's gone out my head. Ramada, that… I can't think of his name.
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Yeah, Ramadan. Ramadan.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No, no, that's… I don't think that's the name.
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Maybe.
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Evie, you're describing a religious festival there. I am.
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I'll have to put it in the show notes, but that's the one side. I love those books where the spirit person is literally telling us about that world, and it's so… I always find that when you read those books as well, every single word has a place, and it makes sense, and you read those books, and You know, you never look at them and go, oh, that doesn't quite make sense. The spirit, the way the spirit world, bring that through is just absolutely fascinating and even with the Silver Birch books, it was said by Maurice Barbanell, who was the author of Psychic News, who went on to channel, What's his name again? Red Cloud. Through him, it was the only material that he never, ever had to ever edit any of it. Any of the texts that came through him because it was always just so, I don't want to use the word perfect, but it was just so fitting and so to the point that it never needed any editing.
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But, you know, I'm always saying to myself, I want to sit more, I want to sit more, because I love sitting these days.
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Because I always feel calmer, I always feel like I've got a sense of clarity, I can sit feeling confused, and get up after 10 minutes feeling not confused. What other modality or thing is there on this planet that can provide such a sense of calm, clarity, and, Love than the ability to sit and I, I, it's like anything, it's like you want to go to the gym, you want to build muscles, you want to, become better at anything, you've got to just practice with it and I feel that.
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When I used to first start, you know, one of the things me, I think me and you were terrible for is, you know, we say we're gonna go to the gym, or we say we're gonna do anything, and of course.
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we set the bar at 6 times a week, that's the aim, an hour each time, that's where we're starting. And that's not helpful if you… it's like the old tortoise and the hare. I remember, in my very early days of development.
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There was another medium, a friend of mine called Melissa, and she would sit two times a week on this particular chair at a set time because she kind of saw it like she was making an appointment with her spirit team. They would know when to turn up because there's a sense of routine. And that really made sense to me in the early days. And I thought, "No, I'm sitting five times a week." Anyway, after about a year, I caught up with Melissa.
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She, you know, from my viewpoint then, seemed to be, you know, like she'd taken… taken off way above, you know, where I felt I was on my development, because it's like the tortoise and the hare. I set five times, she just does this consistent… A matter sitting all the time and I feel that, you know, if we, if you're going to come into this, you're coming into the world of mediumship, it's not something that can be rushed, it's not something where you can set yourself a year's aim and say, in a year I'm going to be a full-time medium with an absolutely bursting and buoyant mediumship practice, it doesn't work like that, it is a journey that takes time because Of the fact that Mediumship.
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Because of the fact, and this is, I actually think, what we should talk about in the next installment, because the spirit world communicate.
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Through you, through your… Emotions through every single experience you've ever had, everything that you have been through, probably not just in this life but also past lives, but let's keep this simple, we will say this life for now, they will use that in order to, give the story to you so when a spirit person is communicating with me they're going to draw on things I know and that's why in the journey of mediumship you need to become as observant as possible if you want to start getting more as a medium let's say door numbers you need to start becoming much more aware of door numbers in your everyday life because if something's not in your repertoire of language or your repertoire of experience.
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How the hell can you then bring that through if you don't know what that thing is? So, but there's also something.
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because of the fact that the spirit world use your, emotions, they use your feelings, let's say, I don't know, you've had a bit of a traumatic experience, Donna, with an ex.
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Back when you was in your early 20s and he treated you awfully and you, you know, just didn't like this particular person and it was traumatizing to you at the time. The spirit world in a reading right now may use that and put that back into your consciousness in order to tell the spirit communicator who you've got with you their story.
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is going to potentially bring up in you some level of emotion, or it can even re, kind of activate a past trauma. So, that's why the journey of mediumship is healing, and I do often wonder to myself, when the spirit world are using those experiences that we've had in our past.
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They must understand with the intelligence that they have, how we feel about those experiences. I wonder, do they give that level of consideration to if they're going to draw on that experience, the impact that can have on us as the medium?
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Absolutely. I'm a total believer that they will use what they feel is appropriate for you as the reader. I mean, if you're sitting well within the harness of your power within that mediumship reading, emotions may come up. You'll often find they are the person bringing the evidence through to the, you know, the reciprocator.
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But I I I totally believe the spirit are far too intelligent to use something that's going to trigger the trauma in me, because that would then bring me into a level of energy of awareness that would take me to my brain, you know, because obviously the trauma tends to it sits within the body, you know, and we can actually even you know heal stuff, but it will still move through you, so it's more that again that feeling, that essence of trust in that.
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that what they bring through is relevant. I mean, like you said earlier, you know, you can have people that have done quite bad things in this life come forward for people, and that's the last person they want to hear from.
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But actually, the soul knows better. Spirit knows more that actually just that one touch of communication may be exactly what the person needs to start the journey of healing or to help the healing.
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So, I mean, the spirit, the intelligence of spirit will never cease to amaze me, you know, it's beyond, like I've said before, it is beyond our comprehension in the way they move and what they use, I mean, it's been said many times, you know, the best mediums are the ones that have been through, like, living hells. And I'm not sitting here saying, by far, I'm the best medium, but good God, if that's what they… you know, if that's true, then, you know, I sure have some suitcases to use, so…
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There's, there's definitely something in that because if I When I think back to any medium that I know that I hold in really high regard, they have had a life that I would describe as beyond challenging, absolutely beyond challenging,
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Oy.
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Yes, and it's definitely something about that with mediums who, have had traumatic lives and if I think about every medium I've ever had on this, show I'm, I'm even trying to think of one that hasn't had some level of But it's, that's what gives them the, I think, the humility, the softness, the way of being that makes them suitable for this work, because it takes a certain kind of somebody to be a medium, I think.
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And that's why I think you get people that come into this who have got a curiosity about spirit, and perhaps they're gonna have their own relationship with spirit. Perhaps it might be they're a musician or an artist or a creative and that.
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getting that inspiration from the world is going to be very good to them. But there's a big difference between that and someone whose actual calling is to become a medium. And even myself, I said to myself in my 30s, I thought.
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what? My life? Why the is it so crazy? Why have I been through so much? Why, you know, I don't want to say I was like a certain type of magnet, a not very nice magnet, a magnet you want to keep near the toilet at one point, but, you know, there's something… there's something in that, for instance.
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So, you know, but what I would also say is it's very healing but whenever I go on mediumship courses, it does bring a lot of things to the surface, and, there's nothing like mediumship to put an absolute magnifying glasses on the areas of your life that you need to address. And that can be overwhelming, it can be unsettling, it can be a source of, you know.
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I would even say it can be quite distressing at times if it's bringing things up in you. And even on mediumship courses, you know, every single mediumship course should, as part of the acquisition of things you need during a week to run a mediumship course, a lot of tissues is definitely high up there, probably as important as food or water, I might say.
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The tissues, because it does, it brings a lot to the surface.
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But it's because of the fact that the spirit world are using everything of ours, that we have.
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in order to use those experiences, those feelings, in order to communicate. And that's why, mediumship is so individual. And it's… and it's… and that's why, even as a teacher, a good teacher of mediumship is someone that encourages you to be an individual.
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And to find your own way of it working, because in actual fact, It was… the moment the penny dropped in my mind that I just needed to find my way and do it my… be… just find my way of doing it, was the moment when my mediumship took off, because it was those techniques of others, and it's… it's interesting. What one… what works for one person when sitting.
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doesn't work for another. Like, I know a lot of mediums who will lead you into a meditation.
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and one very well-known medium in particular, who will lead you down into your soul. And I can't get my head around that, because the feeling of going down and in is any… it couldn't be further from The pushing out of expansion of energy, which is what we actually do.
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So I used to think, I don't get this whole going down into the soul. And it didn't click with me because it would make me go smaller, not bigger. But that's why you've got to be really gentle with yourself in these early days of… mediumship exploration because you might be sat with six other people all sitting around in a circle with a teacher at a day's workshop at a lovely spiritualist church you're so excited got your sandwiches ready and then you go into this course and you're not feeling anything because and everyone else is saying yes I had this wonderful experience you told me to sit on a bench and all of a sudden I had I had this angel come and sit… I mean, you're sitting there, and I remember it myself, sitting there going.
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Well, I'm feeling absolutely bugger all, you know, I'm not feeling anything here, but that's because that way.
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you know, wasn't the right way for me. And it might just be, sometimes you might find the right way, it works for you one day, you feel a lot, and then the next day, you're feeling nothing. And that could just be because you're having a day where your head's a bit all over the place, you're having a day that's been a bit of a hard day. And I would always say, if you sit with the intention of wanting to make a connection to your Spirit team and you don't feel anything, I.
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promise you this, there is stuff happening, you were just not aware of it at that particular moment. The spirit world will be working with you in that moment, and they will be doing stuff to help you energetically, but just because you can't feel it, it doesn't mean it's not happening.
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Yeah, to me, this would be the importance of spirit-led teaching.
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And, you know, having the ability…
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Spirit-led teaching.
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I mean, I went to a course once, I was sat.
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I was there to do mediumship, you know, and I could just see and hear and feel everything that the teacher was experiencing. And I was like, spirit, what's going on? It was like, we're showing you what it is to teach. And so then, you know, throughout the week, it then became that I was aware that what people had missed, what they couldn't hear, what their guide needed them to know, how they needed to be brought back in that moment, et cetera, et cetera. So it's about working with spirit.
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To give the person, the group, exactly what they need to touch them all as much as possible, because, again, they know better than we do. So just by being led by Spirit in that teaching.
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You know, you're sort of basically moving to the side and some of it will come through intuitively because you'll be prompted because they'll be busy doing other things, to, to help you to know what to say, you know, if we see in the different areas, you know, mediumship, spiritual guidance, you know, intuition, they all have… they all play their part in the teaching, and that, you know, different guides will do different things in relation to that as well. But to me, that's the importance of teaching from spiritual teaching. You know, spirit-led teaching to me, I mean, is… You know, you can't go wrong because they never get it wrong and they know what's needed.
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The teachers that I come across.
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You can so clearly tell the difference between a spirit led teacher and not because if you're listening to this now and going, okay, fantastic, makes sense. I want to go with a teacher that's teaching me through the intelligence of that of the spirit.
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Okay, how the hell do I find that teacher? Where do I look them up? Because it doesn't seem to me like In the world of ChatGPT now, you know, it will tell you a lot, but if I start saying to ChatGPT, tell me, which mediumship teachers are teaching through that of the spirit, you might struggle to, to get the answer to that, but you can feel it.
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You can feel it because what they're saying, there is a power behind it. And I remember the first ever time I would say that I came across a teacher.
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That was teaching from spirit. And the way I didn't at this point really recognise in my development that that's what they were doing. I just thought they were an exceptional teacher. But the feeling I had was I came out of that lesson going, oh my God.
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Penny drop, penny drop, penny drop, and everyone in the room.
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You know, is feeling touched in some way by what's happened because the intelligence of the spirit world is they will Understand within the collective consciousness of the group what everyone in the group needs and that's why.
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Trance mediumship, when you see trance that's real trance, and someone is really in that power, it should touch every single person in some way, in the room. Not all in the same way, and far from it.
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Because we've all got our own lives and our own experiences but everyone will find something within that that has touched them in some way and that's, that's, that's really.
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What this is all about, isn't it? It's about how does something feel? How do you feel in the presence of that teacher? How do you feel in the presence of that workshop? How do you feel in the presence of your own essence and Company when you're sitting in that space because this is a, this is all about developing feeling.
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Not thinking. You might think someone's a great teacher, but do you feel they are a great teacher once you're in their presence? You know, that's very different, isn't it? Because… and that's about this journey, and what we've been speaking about in these episodes so far, is all about your awareness, and how you feel. This… Very serious and this very serious about, you developing and going on this journey does not require you to think.
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It does not. And if you're thinking, you're in the wrong place.
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And you do need to get back into the field, and that, you know, is a very basic concept of teaching, but, you know, at the beginning of a class, you know, you sort of put that out there, then you'd, you know, then I would.
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Spirit would just sting, I mean, if you've got 2 people doing mediumship, they're just going to pick up on and tell you what's, what's going on and what's, what's going wrong, so you can just pull the person back, okay, so open that up, what did you see, why did they show you them shoes, you know, So, and again, that would be feeling, you know, and staying in the essence of that power. So, you know, as long as you stay in the feeling of your heart, and sitting within the divinity of your own true power, and knowing and understanding and mastering what they are.
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Is, you know, is the key to all mediumship development.
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And it is very difficult because when you are Developing, it is so difficult not to want to think, try, do.
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All of these things are gonna put you in your head, and it's very difficult to move out of that, so I think very much to round this Episode of sitting and starting to sense and starting to become even more aware, you know, we're not just now becoming aware of your own energy, you've got to build your energy, your power enough.
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to then feel the other world, because what's happening in that moment when you touch the other world, why are you building your energy anyway? Well, I'll tell you, because, we are dense down here on the, on the, earth plane, the world of matter. We are a dense vibration, and… The spirit world are such a high vibration that what we need to do is raise our energy up, our power up.
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in order for them to bring their vibration down, so there's a meeting in the middle, like an eclipse between the two worlds, the two consciousnesses. And that's why you need to, understand this ability to build. But, you know, why we started off with the psychic, which we will… Inevitably keep coming back to because, you know, the psychic and the mediumship work side on side, when you're doing a reading.
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with someone, or a medium reading, you know, I'm not sitting there going, oh, that's mediumship, oh, that's psychic. Both are working, naturally as an expression, but they do work side on side, and that's why you've got to become aware of your own energy, and even the act of sitting in your power is an act of becoming aware of how to manipulate and build that in order to then make that connection with the spirit world. And one of the big things after learning how to build the power is learning how to hold the power. And that's one of the difficulties of, you know, if you want to get out there like I do and want to demonstrate your mediumship.
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Holding that power for a long period of time, 60 minutes, 90 minutes, it takes a lot of practice to be in that power to also keep your attention on the other world rather than the world in front of you, which again takes a lot of time because if you've got a sitter who starts, you know, you say something to them, you get something and then they start talking or they say a no or they Then want to just expand on something straight away your awareness is over, which is why the ability to stay focused on the spirit person is another thing that just takes time.
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And practice, but you've just got to be gentle with yourself. I know we've, we're saying a lot on this series as well about the mind and not wanting to be in the mind. The mind is not the enemy here. And I have to be clear about that as well, because if you feel that the mind is the enemy, you have to remember that the mind is being used by the spirit world. When they put something into our awareness, they are using our brain in order to do that.
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So it's not the enemy.
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As such, because the mind is being used and if you sit there and say, oh god, I've got another thought coming to my mind, I'm so angry, you're, you're, you're, you're being hard on yourself and you're not really, you're gonna find that because of that way in which you're viewing it, that in itself isn't helpful because really you just need to be gentle to yourself in every.
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Way possible, but just understand that this is about feeling and sensing, not thinking. But the mind is not the enemy because ultimately is the mind that the spirit world is using to impress these images and sensations upon you.
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Yeah.
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Agree with that? Absolutely.
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Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, from top to toe. It's, you know, it's food just kept saying to me then, no expectations of self, no expectations of spirit, you know, trust in yourself and trust in spirit. And, they, you know, they kind of go hand in hand, because We often want an expectation, we want a feeling, we want to hear something, we, you know, we want, we want, we want human, the dense, Which just leads you into the mind rather than learning to sit in so, you know, 2, 2 beautiful keys for learning to sit within your own power and noting the shift in that they're absolutely right is expectation, expect, no expectation and trust.
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To have trust in yourself, trust in spirit, and have no expectations of anything. Because they will always know, as we've just said shortly earlier, they will know exactly what we need in our journey of development.
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know, and the best that they can do is lead you to unfold that with what's said and prompted.
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For the mediums that are in front of you.
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Your spirit team know exactly what it is that you need at any one time. And you do make an interesting point because when you say you sit with that expectation of wanting something, that is your humanness still being very much in the world of matter, in the world of physical things. Always there being an expectation. Expectation is one of the biggest blocks.
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And by having an expectation, you might say, oh, I need this, or I want this, or I require this proof. All you are doing by virtue of doing that is you are limiting the intelligence of the spirit world. But I understand if you're in the beginning of your journey, you might not realize how intelligent this world is, but the very fact that they can draw upon it, I can't even remember what I had for dinner last Wednesday, yet the spirit world can draw.
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on something that happened to me 20 years ago that I'd completely forgotten about, that pops into my awareness, and you almost… I almost think to myself.
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They are just in awe and wonder of the fact that, you know, when they want to come and communicate with us down here.
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You know, we might think, oh, it's a lot to learn another language where we speak to a whole nother nation. You know, if I go and learn Spain, at least I can speak to a lot of different countries, a lot of different continents who speak Spanish. When you want to talk to a loved one for a medium, you've got to pick up the dictionary of their life experiences and how they feel about each thing, but not just how they felt about it 10 years ago, how they feel about it now. And if you trigger that sensation, that memory, that emotion within me? Am I going to feel that particular way about that at that time to be able to convey what that person wants about it? This is bloody complicated, isn't it, on how it works on their side. We've got the easy end of the bargain in a lot of ways.
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It is again, it's about trusting them to use, you know, the tool that you are and all your experiences to put on to use within.
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You know, your, your, your, your abilities as a medium and they will continue to do so, you know, I've always had a love of languages, always wished I, you know, had this opportunity to travel throughout my life, unfortunately that's not the way my life was led, Due to experiences. So what they did do is they pulled on them languages. So, you know, I've said to Spirit before, okay, so, I mean, you have to sort of really sit in your clairaudience for languages, and it's very tussle between, because obviously the mind wants to go to, oh my god, what am I, you know, what is that you want me to say? But trusting in it.
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So, you know, again, you know, getting out of the way, no expectations and trusting in it, I mean, I've Korean, Japanese, German, Spanish.
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I mean, Spanish, I knew a little bit from school, but I recall that whatever this grandmother, I remember where I was sad and it got me to say, was nothing that was in my vocabulary of Spanish. You know, I could say, is pretty much it.
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Well, it's the same as me. I can order a batch of cheese.
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Yeah.
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In Spain.
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Yeah, exactly.
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The sake.
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They will always use, you know, what they can and not just on life experiences, on interests.
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You know, on them creating… because all humans, to me, are creative. You know, even the logical ones that are sat in front of computers all day, every day, there is a level of creativity and, you know, within that. So they will use that, you know, and pull on that, because obviously there's a passion in that, and anything that sits through, you know, the energy of the heart is usable.
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You know, I mean, I just, I mean, the first time I did spit, I would, the bit of Korean, I mean, you could have knocked me down. I'm like, what? You know, but they never cease to amaze. You know, I totally don't really take any credit for it other than, you know, I've spent a lifetime working on my ability to allow them the opportunity to use me in that way. And actually, it was really heartfelt for the individual in front of me because she didn't use her.
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you know, English name. She used her Korean name, and said something that was, you know, that the young lady really needed to hear. So, you know, for me, it's always about being of service. We're always the, you know, the phone in the middle, if you like. And so there's no real credit taken. I think it's all credit to Spirit in teaching me and helping me to how to better my, mediumship, and developing that using all of the, you know, the life experiences I've had as their tools to be able to get forward what they want and need to put forward.
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Interesting, interesting, interesting.
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Well, I don't think we could have packed more into that hour if we tried. Next time we will be discussing in more detail the language that the spirit world use. The language of the soul. We may well that's the word I want the phrase I want to use because it feels very appropriate.
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But until then, Donna King, thank you once again for coming on the Mediumship Sessions.
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Thank you, Jason, for having me.