Rizzi: folks, welcome in. Another episode of Optimistic Depression. I don't know if Devin ever released our the postgame from the other days. He probably didn't. so first time since the Browns win. It's Patriots Week, it's Hate Week. I'm Rizzy alongside Matt and Pip. I'm excited. I'm nervous. I wanna throw up all the above. I don't I don't feel good going in this week, but It's Patriots Week. You gotta bring the energy, so let's go. What do you guys think?
Pip: See this as a can't lose game. At least for me it's a win-win. At the end of the day, either we beat the Patriots. Yeah, no, no, no. No, it's it's a win-win scenario for me. Either we beat the Patriots,
matt: Can lose can I thought I me too. I thought I was like
Rizzi: okay, like if you can't lose, okay. I don't know like the team can't lose. I was like As long as you don't get blown out.
Pip: what'd you say?
Rizzi: As long as you don't get blown out.
Pip: See like if they win, I'm really happy. If they lose, you're miserable to win win.
Rizzi: Yeah, but you're saying like you're ha yes, you'd be happy if I was miserable. Yeah, that's fair.
Pip: Yeah, I I can't wait to see those tags.
Rizzi: I think I think if obviously if you win this game, great, like this is a gate this is I would consider this a gateway game. if you win this game then the rest of your season kinda opens up, it's like, okay, what can they be? Like can you go then beat the Dolphins and the Raiders? if you lose this game and it's like twenty seven twenty or twenty seven twenty four, like okay fine, like it's kinda what you what everyone expects. But if you go and you play
Pip: There's no moral victories.
Rizzi: yeah, but if you go and you play like you did against the Bears and You get dog walk, then then we're right back to where we were before the Browns game. That's what I think.
matt: Absolutely. I think this is this is definitely a must be competitive game for sure. Cause if it's not, it's gonna get like you exactly like you just said, it's gonna get loud just like it was after that Bears game. But I don't know, I find myself I find myself getting excited for it. I'm like if they if they do end up surprising us here, that'll be such a fun surprise. You said it a couple of weeks ago. Just find like Man, do something you're not supposed to do for once. But I don't know I don't know how I don't know how likely it is. we can get into the the actual reasons and everything. Seeing that Omar Cooper's coming back is huge. That that opens up that that quick game element that we lack since the first drive first game. but but seeing that there's no no Brees, no Parham, and no no Mitchell, I don't know if if we're getting Sadiq. I don't I don't know what the what the vibe is on that, but it seems like he's a little more
Pip: I think we're getting him.
matt: it seems like he's a little more likely than the others. But I don't know. I don't know, I th I think they could definitely make it a game. Winning would be crazy, but W what do you guys see as kind of the keys to keys to victory here or keys to com competitive? Like how do we n or let's just keep backtracking, how do we not get fucking curbs done?
Pip: I don't think they're that
Rizzi: Yeah, Tip.
Pip: good. I think their run game is pretty ass. Like their O line's already banged up. You have to bring pressure like you did last game if you actually want to win. And I don't care if like we lose bringing pressure, like just do it. Like make Drake May uncomfortable. Make him try and get the ball out fast. And I mean, AZ's playing out of his mind, Stevens is playing above average. Like you take those two or Safeties have been amazing. You s stop their shitty run game and you get to the quarterback. Our offense will do what it does. We don't win shootouts. We're we're here to win defensive brawls like get to Drake May, make him uncomfortable and make him beat you.
matt: I mean this this
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: is one where this is one where you you kinda wanna win ugly. Like you if if you can if
Pip: Mm-hmm.
matt: you can make it like last week's game, that's that's your shot. I think you gotta on on offense, I think the biggest issue is gonna be the pressure they're gonna cause up the middle. That's been that's been our biggest weakness by far, is that that center and left guard play and then like Titman's horrendous game last week, but I don't know if that's gonna continue. I expect the our three best linemen to, you know, be at top of their game. But that pressure that simulated pressure up the middle is what concerns me the most. And if Gino's gonna hold the ball and we're gonna get that pressure up the middle, he's obviously shown that he's doesn't feel comfortable rolling out t either way. So that's where we're gonna get ourselves in trouble, especially when you don't have Brees to slip out as the safety blanket and it's gonna be Braylon Allen. So that's where I that's kinda where I see the issues, but I mean if we know that, they know that. So they gotta be prepared game plan wise to do what they can to stop that.
Pip: I want to see more Isaiah Davis.
matt: So do I.
Pip: That's what I want to see. If you want a guy to slip out fast, I feel like Isaiah Davis could do that.
Rizzi: There's no reason why shouldn't be able to do that.
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: I I I don't know. I I haven't watched any of the Patriots since the first game of the year, so I only go by what I see on Twitter and a and everything and from what I hear it's Drake will shred you in man and in zone he's g where he's kinda susceptible to to making mistakes and kind of giving you giving you some interception. So I don't know. I I like you say I think if we won't disrupt him, he's probably gonna shred us. If you bring too much pressure and you're not disciplined with it and you let him out of the pocket, he's gonna kill you. Similar to Josh would. To his the way Josh would. I don't know, I think it just comes down to to compete. Like as as stupid as that may sound like from why I didn't get to watch the Bears game, thank God, but from what I heard it was pretty they were pretty lifeless. Like if you come out there if you come out on Sunday lifeless, you're gonna get your ass whooped. And if you Okay
Pip: Yeah. I'm gonna go on a quick rant. Just real quick. Like d as good as Drake May has looked in the last two weeks, he's also looked fucking horrific before that. And the I I just don't know
Rizzi: Correct.
Pip: what the Patriots actually do well. Like they're just an above average team to me. They don't do anything insanely well, and that's what pisses me off is like we act like they're like this big bad Patriots team when they're not. They're very beatable. They shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl, that's for sure. They should have been a first round exit last year. Drake May, very good. Is he insane? Is he Josh Allen level? No. And I'm not saying that you said that, just he's not. They don't do
Rizzi: No, I don't know, I don't know.
Pip: anything like exceptional to the point where we should be like, like we can't get fucked. If we get fucked, it's a problem. Like that it is a big problem. They're not that good.
Rizzi: Correct. And I think like I said, I haven't watched the Patriots since the first game of the year, but he's looked good against the Bills who have a shit defense, and he's looked good against the Raiders who are extremely overrated. So it's not like he's it's not like he's playing like this against Seattle.
Pip: Exactly.
Rizzi: Or Denver or someone with an amazing defense. So you're right, th they are not the big bad Patriots, but it's It's just the fact that we're going to Foxboro and nothing good ever happens to us in Foxborough.
matt: I think
Pip: Fuck the past.
matt: I think I think the I think the problem is exactly what Pip, I think
Rizzi: I know, I know.
matt: the problem is exactly what you just said. They do everything well, but nothing great. And we are and we tend to vomit all over ourselves. So I think I think
Rizzi: Yes.
matt: that's where one issue lies. And I do think like I don't know if we're if we're gonna leave guys on an island, I think Drake's gonna pick you apart if you don't get like They gotta get home naturally, 'cause Rizi, like you
Rizzi: With four.
matt: said, like if they're if they're just like sending these blitzes like they were last week, that's that's how Drake May's gonna beat you. And Pip, you said it too. Like they have a banged up offensive line. Like our guy's gotta just win. Like Bailey's got Bailey's gotta not have a Bears game, he's gotta have a Browns game. It's just is what it is.
Rizzi: Mm.
matt: And they're they're I mean, they're not world beaters, and this is year two of a regime. You can't Go out and get your ass kicked and the ass handed to you for four quarters straight. There's legitimately no excuse for that. And it's sad that we we we're even saying like it's a divisional game on the road. Let's not get our fucking ass handed to us. Like and it and it is it is scars of the past, as much as we don't wanna as
Rizzi: Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
matt: much as we don't want to say it, it is, but I mean, they've also shown two weeks ago that they can go out there and get their ass beat for four quarters. So we just don't really know what teams
Rizzi: Right.
matt: can show up, unfortunately.
Rizzi: They got whooped worse than we've gotten whooped this year.
matt: They have.
Pip: For me it's like just bring the pressure. I don't give a fuck about getting home with only four. Look at what the Vikings are doing with Brian Flores. Bring the pressure. Who who's gonna beat us in the short game? Eftin Chisholm? You think I'm afraid of Fden Chisholm?
Rizzi: You can still zone bless too. You don't have to you don't you don't have to worry about leaving us at yeah.
matt: Jumble, right. Yeah.
Pip: Like I I'm not I'm not worried about how much pressure we bring. I would send the house every time until he just picks you apart. And he's not going to. I I think we can get home. I think we can get home so easily. We're one of the highest like blitz rates in the league. Keep that up. Don't shy away from it. Lean into it and make him uncomfortable.
matt: Well, you have to make him unc but but like you said, it can't be like the you know, Jarvis Brownlee shading over the nose tackle and then like you know what's com like it's gotta be you gotta switch it up. I'm not gonna Yeah, right. I'm not gonna
Rizzi: Your disguise is a little bit better.
matt: And and that was fine. Like the cond like that situation, like the Browns
Rizzi: It worked.
matt: like that's that's that worked. Like it even if even though you were showing it, you the Browns also showed they couldn't really stop what you were doing, as even though Jarvis Brownley, I was screaming, screaming at the TV. And my dad was like, dude, you gotta relax. I'm like, dude, and and I know they said they said it on the like Joe and Connor were saying it too. I think Connor mentioned it. I'm like, I was screaming, jumping off my couch every time he blitzed I'm like, you gotta like have some sort of game plan. It's not just run as fast as you can, and then Deshaun Watson in a monsoon just takes one step left and you're flying out of the frame. You gotta have some poise. Like like remember like when like
Pip: He's a psychopath.
Rizzi: I agree.
matt: when Bailey was the free rusher that one time when he went unblocked and he just I mean, obviously it's David like it's very different you're comparing a David Bailey rush to a Jarvis Brownley rush. This is just a rant. This is just something I like I I didn't even bring up during the game. But my dad can attack I was literally jumping off the couch. Like Bailey like hesitated a little bit, and that's what I was saying for Brownley. Like, dude, like you're getting there untouched. And you're you're a smaller guy, like at least like jump in front of him and make him run and like still trail him. Like he was just going like full
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: missile and then he would make one stop, he'd be like Brown would be on the floor. I'm like, Holy shit. So you you gotta
Rizzi: I think I think one thing we've seen this year, to Glenn's credit, is he will game plan for the opponent and he's not just gonna run he's not it's not
matt: Yes.
Rizzi: like this is our defense and we're running it no matter what. Like just 'cause we saw the pressure or the the blitz rate that we saw last week doesn't mean that we're gonna get it again. And if we do get it again, it might not be it's not gonna be the same type of blitzes like that we saw last week, I don't think.
matt: I I agree. I do agree. But that was just like
Pip: I mean or two wins.
matt: a that was like a total off the off the beaten path rant.
Rizzi: The only thing that worries me is is is their defense. And like I said, I haven't lost him since week one, but everyone talks about how good their defense is. And have we really played a good defense yet? I don't think so. And our offense hasn't looked great. Granted, I know we have a ton of injuries, and that plays a factor into it, and we'll get we're getting Cooper back, which is nice. Hopefully Sadiq plays, but I don't know. I I still worry about our offense a bit. I I have no confidence in our offense. As as optimistic as I
matt: I did too.
Rizzi: usually am, I really don't want any offense. How funny.
matt: Yeah, this this ma this is not a good matchup for the offense. like I was saying before, it's just gonna be difficult when you know that like if the Patriots are good at something, it's exploiting your weaknesses and our weaknesses right up the middle and I th I think that's where just like how we were showing those Brownley blitzes and sending it up the middle, I think they're gonna do the same thing. They're gonna keep Gino in the pocket, bring the pressure up the middle, and he's been having a really hard time holding the ball. And I think I think we're gonna see that rear its ugly head. I think he's gonna throw a a pick or two this week too. He is very due.
Rizzi: He's due. He's due to throw a pick. I I think you could soften up soften up that interior pressure though, like if we get back to running behind our tackles. Like
matt: Absolutely.
Rizzi: run behind Olu. Run behind Olu and and Taylor. Like run behind Membu. We don't have to run inside. I would I I would be fine
matt: So what?
Rizzi: with one inside run the whole game.
matt: Dude, since the since that Titans game too. How like it it took what you gave, was it the No, it was the Packer game. Pip, we were yeah, because we were together. When it took till like the fourth quarter for them to try an outside run and they hit they hit
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: the they hit the corner and got to the second level nearly every time they went outside behind one of the tackles, but they just keep spamming
Rizzi: That's what saying.
matt: these the A and B gap runs just
Rizzi: I don't get it. I really don't get it. Like we see it, like
Pip: Well, Frank Krike like Internet Explorer trying to load. It takes him to the fourth quarter to process what's happening
Rizzi: I understand.
Pip: in front of him and make an adjustment.
matt: Dude, it's so annoying. It's so frustrating.
Rizzi: There's no like it can't be that b like
Pip: I'm some people here tried to warn you about that. Other people didn't want to listen to it and yelled at me for it. What?
Rizzi: He did cocoa we're fully healthy though. He did cocoa on offense is fully healthy. Week one.
Pip: We played the Titans.
matt: What's wrong with what's wrong with them?
Pip: And then instantly ran
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Pip: out fucking seventeen tight ends again and it didn't work. He tried it three times the next week and got cooked. Yeah, cause he got cooked.
matt: You know how you notice he hasn't done that once since
Rizzi: Yeah. Yeah.
matt: But
Rizzi: I'm excited for I'm excited for Cooper. I'm excited that there will be other options besides Garrett. And it's not gonna be Tim Patrick and Isaiah Williams, like or Sterling Shepard.
matt: Yeah. And again and again give him fifteen fucking targets, dude.
Pip: Don't don't say that. Some people here might get mad at you for saying that.
Rizzi: No, I agree with that, but also like you can't the LT knows that. Like the L T knows that he's the best player. I know.
Pip: That's fine, he's the best player on the field. He's the best player on the field!
matt: I I don't even I don't that one I don't even care. Like throw scheme out the window, dude. He needs the ball in his hands as many times you could possibly get it in his hands.
Rizzi: I don't disagree, but like against the Browns when they're bracketing him, it's like, are you just gonna th are you just gonna chuck it up to double coverage every time? No.
Pip: Yeah
matt: Not get well or or just or just get him. Or just like
Pip: Yeah fuck it.
matt: no, but but I'm saying like get him like they haven't even thrown
Rizzi: Good emotions of yeah.
matt: I don't know if they've thrown him a screen, like he's gotta get like intermediate too. Like and
Rizzi: Isn't
matt: and with prior offensive coordinators, I feel like the issue is like, dude, they're trying him too much in the intermediate game. They're not letting him stretch the field. And like credit to Frank. Like he's they're pushing the ball downfield with him finally. But he's he's just way too good. He needs to be I'm I'm I'm just happy that like the the national attention is kinda like, Wow, look, he has competent quarterback play, look at him.
Rizzi: And it's yeah, it's like he has a bottom third quarterback in the league and he's doing this. Like imagine if he imagine if he played with a top ten, top fifteen quarterback in the league. Like it's amazing.
Pip: Yeah, and that's a great segue into what we're doing next.
Rizzi: Sure, let's go. Are we done
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: with the game? Are we really done with the game?
matt: No, it can't be done with the game.
Pip: What what more do you want to say?
Rizzi: I don't know, do we wanna do a little parlay? We
Pip: Yeah we can.
matt: Yeah, yeah.
Rizzi: could save for the end or maybe if we want or
Pip: No, it's rip it.
matt: So or and we could give a we could give quick game predictions too, like a a a one sentence and a
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: score or something.
Rizzi: Sure. are you on the deal
matt: I c
Rizzi: first?
matt: sure, sure.
Pip: Yeah, it's your segment.
Rizzi: Or the pick or the part of the butt. I would say just one sentence to describe the game, like what's gonna happen.
matt: Yeah, we're just like a like like a little synopsis, whatever. 'Cause we did hit on a lot
Rizzi: This is gonna
matt: of points, but
Rizzi: the game that changes the time for the regime, A G legacy game, whatever you wanna call it, we go in there, we upset twenty eight to twenty four.
matt: Love it. I think you could go Pip.
Pip: I'm gonna say
Rizzi: Ha ha ha
Pip: we're gonna lose twenty three to six just because I
matt: Holy shit.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Pip: think it's winnable and just because I have hope. I'm gonna say we lose twenty three
Rizzi: Yeah.
Pip: to six. Drake may rushes for over a hundred yards.
Rizzi: That's the most painful painful one to lose too. Like he's just running all over us
Pip: Yep.
Rizzi: like it's three and eight.
matt: Ha ha ha.
Rizzi: It's third and eight and like Sheryl's spying him. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. He just
matt: But there's no fifty yard run in there. It's all it's all like twelve yard chunks. Yeah. It's all
Pip: Yeah, just just all like fifteen yards. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna say we're gonna bring this pressure that I want. It's gonna get absolutely cooked. I'm gonna be a hundred percent wrong about bringing it. Rushes for a hundred yards, lose twenty-three to six.
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
matt: Alright. Well Yeah, I'm gonna throw all the positive stuff out the window. 45 nothing. Patriots. I'm kidding. no,
Rizzi: No
matt: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Pip: It's just crazy how you switch up and you're not consistent.
matt: I So I if if this if this was awful loss, that's what I would have said. But they they showed that they they got some fight in them, that they didn't heal over and die. That was one thing I needed to see last week. So I think The fact that they say that they know that this is an important game, New England has been saying this is not a Jets team that we're taking lightly, you know, they could say that and then trounce us, who knows? But I think I think they gotta they're gonna come in with an attitude and I don't think they're gonna win, but I think they're gonna kinda put the Patriots on the like, you know, we're we're not you're not gonna bulldoze us anymore. So I think this game ends up Thirty one. Thirty one twenty three. That's might be a little generous. But I yeah, I d I I think the England's gonna score. But yeah.
Rizzi: That's fine.
matt: My main thing for the defense, they gotta they they really do when they rush, especially when they rush for, they have to contain, dude. They can't they g they can't be r like rushing upfield and stuff. They gotta they gotta play smart and just keep that pocket moving in instead of upfield because that's when exactly when Drake s slips out of the pocket and gets those chunk runs. But I think I'm excited I I I think they're gonna I wanna see some fight. I think we're gonna I think we're gonna see some fight, so
Pip: I just feel like the entire fan base actually has hope and we are going to get smacked. I'm not even saying
Rizzi: Well Which is a problem.
matt: No, I don't think they're gonna I don't I don't think they're gonna win, bro. But I
Pip: win. Like a lot I've seen what you're saying. I've seen us winning, us being competitive. It it is it is the scheduled letdown.
matt: Of it is. It's always it's always
Pip: Disaster class.
matt: in New England.
Rizzi: Well we already had our letdown, hopefully. Week four.
Pip: You think we only have one a year?
Rizzi: Well for now, like a letdown would be like like you win the you win this game or you play this game tough, you go beat the Dolphins, and you lose like twenty eight to ten to the Raiders.
matt: I don't know, man. I'm I'm doing I'm doing this from the sense that last week I think the sense was like, yo, if we lose this we're like kinda everyone's in deep shit, like coaching staff wise and stuff. And I think the players do as much as much as he has his flaws, they do clearly love Aaron Glenn.
Rizzi: They love them.
matt: And I think this one, it's like, yo, look, we saw we could win. Now this is a team that hasn't taken us seriously recently. We gotta go fucking you know, give them punch in the face. Y you gotta you gotta draw first blood too. You can't they can't just have a first drive, you know, seven minute drive and that you're you're gonna see how it's gonna go early, I think.
Rizzi: You'll know right away. You'll know right away. Unfortunately. Or fortunately.
Pip: I don't know, we're a second half team.
Rizzi: We ha yeah, I mean I guess we have been, but I don't know. I sh it is just a lot of scar tissue. Like don't walk down the field a seven minute drive and score a touchdown and here we fuck.
matt: It is. It's per it's perfectly set up. It but but I it's perfectly set up for the for the blowout that ends the regime and it could be, but I I I don't I don't know. I think I think there's gonna be some respect
Rizzi: But I will say
matt: even if they lose a a fight a close game.
Rizzi: Like there might be some faith within the fan base, but I don't think anyone no one outside of of the fan base is giving us a chance. At all.
Pip: No, nobody is.
matt: But a and and it's
Rizzi: Which is which makes me feel a little bit better. Like if if
Pip: No.
Rizzi: all the people giving us a shot, I'd be like, fuck, we're we're really gonna get our get the rug pulled out from under us, but now that it's kind of just the fan base that's kinda starting to believe, it's like, okay, well, everyone still doesn't believe in us.
matt: Dude, and it's also the point of like you you through five weeks you kinda look like a functioning member of the NFL society, which you haven't in a really long time. So like I kinda hope you you can hang around
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: with a team that you see twice a year, you know. Like dude, like, come on. Like this is this is not
Rizzi: And they and this is a Patriots team that is gonna be like nine and eight. Or ten and seven. They're they're not this they're not the thirteen and four Patriots.
matt: And we're and we're not last year either. So like I I really hope we don't get f steamrolled two times in three weeks. I would hope I would hope the I would hope there's a higher standard than that, but
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: and I think there is. I truthfully think there is. For their flaws that we've pointed out many times, I do think there's a higher standard than there has been.
Rizzi: Yeah. So are we gonna do this college quarterback segment? Is that what you're getting into next, Pip?
Pip: Give me one second.
Rizzi: Is it your rankings?
Pip: And there we are.
Rizzi: What is it? it's a mock draft.
Pip: Some mock draft.
Rizzi: Let's go. I'm excited.
matt: The NFL S E mock
Rizzi: Who's up? Us.
Pip: Where up?
Rizzi: Who's who's on the board here? We're the quarterbacks.
matt: Go up, Drew's definitely gone.
Rizzi: it's CJ.
Pip: Drew's gone. Yeah, Drew's gone. Drew and Arch are gone.
matt: Okay. Well
Rizzi: CJ.
matt: last week who did we take first? Arch.
Pip: Yeah, we took Arch, we took we took Arch,
Rizzi: Walk to Arch, bro. Come on. So done with him.
Pip: we took Cole, and I think we took Jones.
matt: And Kelly Jones. Yeah. So gimme
Rizzi: Your own.
matt: gimme CJ Carr, bro.
Rizzi: CJ.
Pip: All right. Yep.
matt: we we moved two pegs. Forgot. Alright, so
Rizzi: Do we go Jordan? No. No we can't.
Pip: His name's Jaden, if you can get it correct, thank you.
Rizzi: Jaden, I couldn't read that.
matt: Give me Jaden Ball.
Pip: all right. So me personally, I think we should have fun with this one. And I think we should go get Nick Marsh or Cam Coleman.
Rizzi: Try to
matt: I think we should take Jaden Bar.
Rizzi: What do we take graduato?
Pip: Maybe if we didn't give Brees the money he didn't deserve.
matt: We have we have we have our wide receiver core if it's not Jeremiah Smith.
Rizzi: That's very I I I agree with you there. We don't need another receiver.
Pip: I mean, what has AD or Cooper have actually shown us?
matt: We don't know yet.
Rizzi: Well I mean this
Pip: Exactly.
Rizzi: I I have I mean I have faith in Cooper. And I have faith in A
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: D once his diabetic fucking finger gets healed.
matt: Based off based off Omar based off Omar Cooper's sample size, he was probably an all pro.
Rizzi: What's the
matt: Based off two plays that he p that he was a part of. He he drove Elante Taylor into the dirt and then had a thirty five yard yak play. So he's probably in future all pro.
Rizzi: We also pick right after this too.
Pip: Yeah. So do you want to take an Ellis Robinson? So we don't have two big lanky corners.
matt: What is the interior defensive line going on? What's what's
Pip: What did you say?
matt: happening? What's happening with the interior defensive line? I Will Eccles is gone.
Pip: Well Echoes is gone it It's it's the two what do you call it? Miami guys and the two
matt: David Stone.
Pip: Oregon guys. And then David Stone has been disappointing to start the year.
matt: I'm just saying in the second round I want Bear Alexander because I just want Bear Alexander.
Rizzi: Are we gonna do multiple rounds here
Pip: Is he not the guy that just
Rizzi: or just
Pip: that just killed Nico?
matt: Yes. And his name is Bear, so
Pip: Yeah, I'll take Yeah. Did you see that, Rizzy?
Rizzi: Yeah.
Pip: Yeah.
matt: Alright, so what what are we I still am so so in on Chris Cole.
Pip: Yeah, but let's mix it up. Let's highlight some other people.
matt: Well, I don't like what else do what else do we
Rizzi: Well, I heard opposite and Drake Johnson.
Pip: I I like either Robinson or Ashton Hampton.
matt: Did we take Greg Johnson last time?
Pip: And I thought Ashton Hampton looked incredible against Malachi Tony.
Rizzi: I like him just 'cause he's bigger,
matt: We could take a
Rizzi: a couple inches bigger and a bit a little bit heavier.
matt: We could do a corner and a guard. I don't mind that.
Pip: I see like this is such a trade out opportunity for Trevor. Like some team is moving up for Trevor. Will Eccles isn't going here.
matt: Can we ch wait, let's see if we we have trade
Rizzi: Can we trade down? Can we trade down?
matt: we have trade offers. We have trade offers up there.
Pip: Let's build an offer. No, they
Rizzi: What was
matt: With the Titans, with the Titans.
Pip: don't have another pick. Who needs an offensive tackle? The Bengals definitely need an offensive tackle.
Rizzi: The bangle. the the bangles would be the tackle.
matt: Wait, who are the who were the wait? No, who were the who were the offers No the Bear the Bears have MINS. Or the Bengals, holy shit.
Pip: Who do they have on the other side?
matt: Wait, check the incoming trades. Can't you can't you
Pip: I did already, they're horrible.
matt: you can't ca you could counter.
Pip: They only have pick thirty three and they've already picked.
matt: my god.
Rizzi: Yikes.
matt: Bro, why don't these teams have three firsts?
Pip: All right, let's go trade with the Bengals. 'Cause they want
matt: Trevor Goosby.
Pip: Looks good to me. And we're back.
matt: All right. Sounds good. I don't even
Rizzi: Let's go more.
matt: know what we got. You were just clicking buttons.
Rizzi: Who's the check?
Pip: They took Jaden Ball.
Rizzi: They're too bad.
matt: wow, they trade they traded up for a running back. All right. I actually
Rizzi: We still could get Greg Jones.
matt: love that by the way, because Chase Brown is an industry plant.
Rizzi: Anyways.
matt: He literally is. Even though I just traded for him in a redraft, I he's such an industry plan. He's just not good.
Pip: I love taking Nick Marsh.
matt: But so I'm I'm doing this as things sit right now.
Pip: As things sit right now, A D doesn't have an extension.
matt: As things sit right now, we don't he can come back next week and be a stud,
Rizzi: We'll let it up.
matt: so can Cooper.
Pip: Like, obviously we both want Chris Cole.
Rizzi: I have a walk.
matt: I personally I don't I don't I don't think it's I don't think it's useful to take a first round receiver with who we have unless it's Jeremiah.
Rizzi: Right.
matt: Jeremiah, I run to the podium and drive whoever needs to go to the airport. I don't care but
Pip: So do you wanna take you
Rizzi: Even if Drew is there, you still take Jeremiah, no.
Pip: wanna take Trevor?
matt: Wait, what'd you say, Grizzy?
Rizzi: If Drew is there and it's between Drew and Jeremiah, who do you take?
matt: I yeah, I take Jeremiah over anybody.
Rizzi: Really?
matt: Yeah. As much as I love Drew, I just like Yeah, right. And
Rizzi: All right. 'Cause then we can still get a quarterback in the first round.
matt: I just like d like you really wanna
Pip: If it's between Drew and Jeremiah and you're taking the wide receiver, then you're out of your fucking mind.
Rizzi: I have a I have a hard
matt: Dude, you wanna you y dude, you you wanna I dude, I mean I love Dra I dude
Rizzi: I have a hard time. I love Drew.
matt: I don't know if anyone loves the guy more than I do, but I do I wanna be the person that doesn't draft him?
Pip: Yeah, I'm okay with it.
Rizzi: But then what if what if like Drew goes to the Dolphins and then you deal you're dealing with him for the next ten years?
Pip: And then you just have a receiver with no quarterback that can get him the ball.
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: Yeah, you have a receiver with CJ Carr.
Rizzi: Okay.
Pip: No. is Trevor Locke the guy
matt: You have Geno Smith and Jeremiah Smith.
Rizzi: Okay.
Pip: that could that's gonna be playing center?
Rizzi: Holy fuck,
matt: No, that's
Rizzi: six five, three hundred and fourteen pounds.
matt: That's the kid from Indiana. I already forgot his name.
Rizzi: Cole Johnson's even bigger, six six, three twenty five. Jesus.
Pip: Dude, look at Trey as green, six seven, two hundred and forty pounds.
matt: Give me Kawan Lacey.
Rizzi: See you later. Thanks, Renata.
Pip: All right, let's take Greg Johnson.
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: Cuan Lacy, Kuan Lacy, Kuan Lacey.
Pip: Let's take the boring pick. Yep.
Rizzi: I love to walk.
matt: How about how about KJ Bolden?
Pip: I think Ahmad Hardy after he's done being
Rizzi: More flattery.
Pip: shot.
matt: We owe KJ Bolden. We already traded back.
Pip: Alright. I mean w we need to get Belton extended.
matt: Dude, that guy that guy might be that might he might be an all pro, dude.
Pip: Yeah, dude, he's playing out of his mind. There
matt: Disgusting.
Pip: we go, boys.
matt: Let's go. Nice.
Pip: The one thing I think our defense doesn't need is secondary help right now, and we took two people for the secondary.
matt: No, we they do
Rizzi: Well, why did you not take Rank Johnson?
matt: long long term. Long term long term they do.
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: Why did you take Greg Johnson?
Pip: 'Cause I think I you could just pay a guard. Like we we can't keep spending first round capital on the entire offensive line.
matt: I want dude like that th
Rizzi: All right.
matt: th this draft coming up. we said it we said it on the last time we did a mock draft. This draft needs to be like the difference maker draft. Like they built the roster through these last few drafts. This one needs to like, yo, go get that like KJ Bolden sitting there in the middle of the first round. Go draft him. He's gonna be spearheading your secondary for the next X amount of year. Like that's what it needs to be. I i I don't care about positional value like Chris Cole. He's sitting there, he runs sideline to sideline in three point eight seconds. That's who I want. I don't care about that he's a linebacker.
Pip: And that's why if you miss on quarterback in this draft, you are fucked.
matt: If I if you miss on quarterback, you're chilling in this draft.
Rizzi: We'll just get we'll just get Keywood Russell next year. Or yeah, the draft. True.
Pip: Dude, we are no, cause our roster is gonna be too good. It's gonna be like when Zach wasn't
matt: Dude.
Pip: ready. Like our if we miss on quarterback in the twenty twenty seven class, we are fucked for a decade.
Rizzi: Well, what if K is the guy?
Pip: Anyway, this was a great episode, guys. I'm really happy that I was able to get back on the mic with you,
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Pip: Rizzy. It's been a minute. Since since before the Lions game. Yeah,
Rizzi: And since the Lions game, yeah.
Pip: so thank you all for listening.
matt: We're doing
Pip: That was
Pip: See this as a can't lose game. At least for me it's a win-win. At the end of the day, either we beat the Patriots. Yeah, no, no, no. No, it's it's a win-win scenario for me. Either we beat the Patriots,
matt: Can lose can I thought I me too. I thought I was like
Rizzi: okay, like if you can't lose, okay. I don't know like the team can't lose. I was like As long as you don't get blown out.
Pip: what'd you say?
Rizzi: As long as you don't get blown out.
Pip: See like if they win, I'm really happy. If they lose, you're miserable to win win.
Rizzi: Yeah, but you're saying like you're ha yes, you'd be happy if I was miserable. Yeah, that's fair.
Pip: Yeah, I I can't wait to see those tags.
Rizzi: I think I think if obviously if you win this game, great, like this is a gate this is I would consider this a gateway game. if you win this game then the rest of your season kinda opens up, it's like, okay, what can they be? Like can you go then beat the Dolphins and the Raiders? if you lose this game and it's like twenty seven twenty or twenty seven twenty four, like okay fine, like it's kinda what you what everyone expects. But if you go and you play
Pip: There's no moral victories.
Rizzi: yeah, but if you go and you play like you did against the Bears and You get dog walk, then then we're right back to where we were before the Browns game. That's what I think.
matt: Absolutely. I think this is this is definitely a must be competitive game for sure. Cause if it's not, it's gonna get like you exactly like you just said, it's gonna get loud just like it was after that Bears game. But I don't know, I find myself I find myself getting excited for it. I'm like if they if they do end up surprising us here, that'll be such a fun surprise. You said it a couple of weeks ago. Just find like Man, do something you're not supposed to do for once. But I don't know I don't know how I don't know how likely it is. we can get into the the actual reasons and everything. Seeing that Omar Cooper's coming back is huge. That that opens up that that quick game element that we lack since the first drive first game. but but seeing that there's no no Brees, no Parham, and no no Mitchell, I don't know if if we're getting Sadiq. I don't I don't know what the what the vibe is on that, but it seems like he's a little more
Pip: I think we're getting him.
matt: it seems like he's a little more likely than the others. But I don't know. I don't know, I th I think they could definitely make it a game. Winning would be crazy, but W what do you guys see as kind of the keys to keys to victory here or keys to com competitive? Like how do we n or let's just keep backtracking, how do we not get fucking curbs done?
Pip: I don't think they're that
Rizzi: Yeah, Tip.
Pip: good. I think their run game is pretty ass. Like their O line's already banged up. You have to bring pressure like you did last game if you actually want to win. And I don't care if like we lose bringing pressure, like just do it. Like make Drake May uncomfortable. Make him try and get the ball out fast. And I mean, AZ's playing out of his mind, Stevens is playing above average. Like you take those two or Safeties have been amazing. You s stop their shitty run game and you get to the quarterback. Our offense will do what it does. We don't win shootouts. We're we're here to win defensive brawls like get to Drake May, make him uncomfortable and make him beat you.
matt: I mean this this
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: is one where this is one where you you kinda wanna win ugly. Like you if if you can if
Pip: Mm-hmm.
matt: you can make it like last week's game, that's that's your shot. I think you gotta on on offense, I think the biggest issue is gonna be the pressure they're gonna cause up the middle. That's been that's been our biggest weakness by far, is that that center and left guard play and then like Titman's horrendous game last week, but I don't know if that's gonna continue. I expect the our three best linemen to, you know, be at top of their game. But that pressure that simulated pressure up the middle is what concerns me the most. And if Gino's gonna hold the ball and we're gonna get that pressure up the middle, he's obviously shown that he's doesn't feel comfortable rolling out t either way. So that's where we're gonna get ourselves in trouble, especially when you don't have Brees to slip out as the safety blanket and it's gonna be Braylon Allen. So that's where I that's kinda where I see the issues, but I mean if we know that, they know that. So they gotta be prepared game plan wise to do what they can to stop that.
Pip: I want to see more Isaiah Davis.
matt: So do I.
Pip: That's what I want to see. If you want a guy to slip out fast, I feel like Isaiah Davis could do that.
Rizzi: There's no reason why shouldn't be able to do that.
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: I I I don't know. I I haven't watched any of the Patriots since the first game of the year, so I only go by what I see on Twitter and a and everything and from what I hear it's Drake will shred you in man and in zone he's g where he's kinda susceptible to to making mistakes and kind of giving you giving you some interception. So I don't know. I I like you say I think if we won't disrupt him, he's probably gonna shred us. If you bring too much pressure and you're not disciplined with it and you let him out of the pocket, he's gonna kill you. Similar to Josh would. To his the way Josh would. I don't know, I think it just comes down to to compete. Like as as stupid as that may sound like from why I didn't get to watch the Bears game, thank God, but from what I heard it was pretty they were pretty lifeless. Like if you come out there if you come out on Sunday lifeless, you're gonna get your ass whooped. And if you Okay
Pip: Yeah. I'm gonna go on a quick rant. Just real quick. Like d as good as Drake May has looked in the last two weeks, he's also looked fucking horrific before that. And the I I just don't know
Rizzi: Correct.
Pip: what the Patriots actually do well. Like they're just an above average team to me. They don't do anything insanely well, and that's what pisses me off is like we act like they're like this big bad Patriots team when they're not. They're very beatable. They shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl, that's for sure. They should have been a first round exit last year. Drake May, very good. Is he insane? Is he Josh Allen level? No. And I'm not saying that you said that, just he's not. They don't do
Rizzi: No, I don't know, I don't know.
Pip: anything like exceptional to the point where we should be like, like we can't get fucked. If we get fucked, it's a problem. Like that it is a big problem. They're not that good.
Rizzi: Correct. And I think like I said, I haven't watched the Patriots since the first game of the year, but he's looked good against the Bills who have a shit defense, and he's looked good against the Raiders who are extremely overrated. So it's not like he's it's not like he's playing like this against Seattle.
Pip: Exactly.
Rizzi: Or Denver or someone with an amazing defense. So you're right, th they are not the big bad Patriots, but it's It's just the fact that we're going to Foxboro and nothing good ever happens to us in Foxborough.
matt: I think
Pip: Fuck the past.
matt: I think I think the I think the problem is exactly what Pip, I think
Rizzi: I know, I know.
matt: the problem is exactly what you just said. They do everything well, but nothing great. And we are and we tend to vomit all over ourselves. So I think I think
Rizzi: Yes.
matt: that's where one issue lies. And I do think like I don't know if we're if we're gonna leave guys on an island, I think Drake's gonna pick you apart if you don't get like They gotta get home naturally, 'cause Rizi, like you
Rizzi: With four.
matt: said, like if they're if they're just like sending these blitzes like they were last week, that's that's how Drake May's gonna beat you. And Pip, you said it too. Like they have a banged up offensive line. Like our guy's gotta just win. Like Bailey's got Bailey's gotta not have a Bears game, he's gotta have a Browns game. It's just is what it is.
Rizzi: Mm.
matt: And they're they're I mean, they're not world beaters, and this is year two of a regime. You can't Go out and get your ass kicked and the ass handed to you for four quarters straight. There's legitimately no excuse for that. And it's sad that we we we're even saying like it's a divisional game on the road. Let's not get our fucking ass handed to us. Like and it and it is it is scars of the past, as much as we don't wanna as
Rizzi: Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
matt: much as we don't want to say it, it is, but I mean, they've also shown two weeks ago that they can go out there and get their ass beat for four quarters. So we just don't really know what teams
Rizzi: Right.
matt: can show up, unfortunately.
Rizzi: They got whooped worse than we've gotten whooped this year.
matt: They have.
Pip: For me it's like just bring the pressure. I don't give a fuck about getting home with only four. Look at what the Vikings are doing with Brian Flores. Bring the pressure. Who who's gonna beat us in the short game? Eftin Chisholm? You think I'm afraid of Fden Chisholm?
Rizzi: You can still zone bless too. You don't have to you don't you don't have to worry about leaving us at yeah.
matt: Jumble, right. Yeah.
Pip: Like I I'm not I'm not worried about how much pressure we bring. I would send the house every time until he just picks you apart. And he's not going to. I I think we can get home. I think we can get home so easily. We're one of the highest like blitz rates in the league. Keep that up. Don't shy away from it. Lean into it and make him uncomfortable.
matt: Well, you have to make him unc but but like you said, it can't be like the you know, Jarvis Brownlee shading over the nose tackle and then like you know what's com like it's gotta be you gotta switch it up. I'm not gonna Yeah, right. I'm not gonna
Rizzi: Your disguise is a little bit better.
matt: And and that was fine. Like the cond like that situation, like the Browns
Rizzi: It worked.
matt: like that's that's that worked. Like it even if even though you were showing it, you the Browns also showed they couldn't really stop what you were doing, as even though Jarvis Brownley, I was screaming, screaming at the TV. And my dad was like, dude, you gotta relax. I'm like, dude, and and I know they said they said it on the like Joe and Connor were saying it too. I think Connor mentioned it. I'm like, I was screaming, jumping off my couch every time he blitzed I'm like, you gotta like have some sort of game plan. It's not just run as fast as you can, and then Deshaun Watson in a monsoon just takes one step left and you're flying out of the frame. You gotta have some poise. Like like remember like when like
Pip: He's a psychopath.
Rizzi: I agree.
matt: when Bailey was the free rusher that one time when he went unblocked and he just I mean, obviously it's David like it's very different you're comparing a David Bailey rush to a Jarvis Brownley rush. This is just a rant. This is just something I like I I didn't even bring up during the game. But my dad can attack I was literally jumping off the couch. Like Bailey like hesitated a little bit, and that's what I was saying for Brownley. Like, dude, like you're getting there untouched. And you're you're a smaller guy, like at least like jump in front of him and make him run and like still trail him. Like he was just going like full
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: missile and then he would make one stop, he'd be like Brown would be on the floor. I'm like, Holy shit. So you you gotta
Rizzi: I think I think one thing we've seen this year, to Glenn's credit, is he will game plan for the opponent and he's not just gonna run he's not it's not
matt: Yes.
Rizzi: like this is our defense and we're running it no matter what. Like just 'cause we saw the pressure or the the blitz rate that we saw last week doesn't mean that we're gonna get it again. And if we do get it again, it might not be it's not gonna be the same type of blitzes like that we saw last week, I don't think.
matt: I I agree. I do agree. But that was just like
Pip: I mean or two wins.
matt: a that was like a total off the off the beaten path rant.
Rizzi: The only thing that worries me is is is their defense. And like I said, I haven't lost him since week one, but everyone talks about how good their defense is. And have we really played a good defense yet? I don't think so. And our offense hasn't looked great. Granted, I know we have a ton of injuries, and that plays a factor into it, and we'll get we're getting Cooper back, which is nice. Hopefully Sadiq plays, but I don't know. I I still worry about our offense a bit. I I have no confidence in our offense. As as optimistic as I
matt: I did too.
Rizzi: usually am, I really don't want any offense. How funny.
matt: Yeah, this this ma this is not a good matchup for the offense. like I was saying before, it's just gonna be difficult when you know that like if the Patriots are good at something, it's exploiting your weaknesses and our weaknesses right up the middle and I th I think that's where just like how we were showing those Brownley blitzes and sending it up the middle, I think they're gonna do the same thing. They're gonna keep Gino in the pocket, bring the pressure up the middle, and he's been having a really hard time holding the ball. And I think I think we're gonna see that rear its ugly head. I think he's gonna throw a a pick or two this week too. He is very due.
Rizzi: He's due. He's due to throw a pick. I I think you could soften up soften up that interior pressure though, like if we get back to running behind our tackles. Like
matt: Absolutely.
Rizzi: run behind Olu. Run behind Olu and and Taylor. Like run behind Membu. We don't have to run inside. I would I I would be fine
matt: So what?
Rizzi: with one inside run the whole game.
matt: Dude, since the since that Titans game too. How like it it took what you gave, was it the No, it was the Packer game. Pip, we were yeah, because we were together. When it took till like the fourth quarter for them to try an outside run and they hit they hit
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: the they hit the corner and got to the second level nearly every time they went outside behind one of the tackles, but they just keep spamming
Rizzi: That's what saying.
matt: these the A and B gap runs just
Rizzi: I don't get it. I really don't get it. Like we see it, like
Pip: Well, Frank Krike like Internet Explorer trying to load. It takes him to the fourth quarter to process what's happening
Rizzi: I understand.
Pip: in front of him and make an adjustment.
matt: Dude, it's so annoying. It's so frustrating.
Rizzi: There's no like it can't be that b like
Pip: I'm some people here tried to warn you about that. Other people didn't want to listen to it and yelled at me for it. What?
Rizzi: He did cocoa we're fully healthy though. He did cocoa on offense is fully healthy. Week one.
Pip: We played the Titans.
matt: What's wrong with what's wrong with them?
Pip: And then instantly ran
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Pip: out fucking seventeen tight ends again and it didn't work. He tried it three times the next week and got cooked. Yeah, cause he got cooked.
matt: You know how you notice he hasn't done that once since
Rizzi: Yeah. Yeah.
matt: But
Rizzi: I'm excited for I'm excited for Cooper. I'm excited that there will be other options besides Garrett. And it's not gonna be Tim Patrick and Isaiah Williams, like or Sterling Shepard.
matt: Yeah. And again and again give him fifteen fucking targets, dude.
Pip: Don't don't say that. Some people here might get mad at you for saying that.
Rizzi: No, I agree with that, but also like you can't the LT knows that. Like the L T knows that he's the best player. I know.
Pip: That's fine, he's the best player on the field. He's the best player on the field!
matt: I I don't even I don't that one I don't even care. Like throw scheme out the window, dude. He needs the ball in his hands as many times you could possibly get it in his hands.
Rizzi: I don't disagree, but like against the Browns when they're bracketing him, it's like, are you just gonna th are you just gonna chuck it up to double coverage every time? No.
Pip: Yeah
matt: Not get well or or just or just get him. Or just like
Pip: Yeah fuck it.
matt: no, but but I'm saying like get him like they haven't even thrown
Rizzi: Good emotions of yeah.
matt: I don't know if they've thrown him a screen, like he's gotta get like intermediate too. Like and
Rizzi: Isn't
matt: and with prior offensive coordinators, I feel like the issue is like, dude, they're trying him too much in the intermediate game. They're not letting him stretch the field. And like credit to Frank. Like he's they're pushing the ball downfield with him finally. But he's he's just way too good. He needs to be I'm I'm I'm just happy that like the the national attention is kinda like, Wow, look, he has competent quarterback play, look at him.
Rizzi: And it's yeah, it's like he has a bottom third quarterback in the league and he's doing this. Like imagine if he imagine if he played with a top ten, top fifteen quarterback in the league. Like it's amazing.
Pip: Yeah, and that's a great segue into what we're doing next.
Rizzi: Sure, let's go. Are we done
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: with the game? Are we really done with the game?
matt: No, it can't be done with the game.
Pip: What what more do you want to say?
Rizzi: I don't know, do we wanna do a little parlay? We
Pip: Yeah we can.
matt: Yeah, yeah.
Rizzi: could save for the end or maybe if we want or
Pip: No, it's rip it.
matt: So or and we could give a we could give quick game predictions too, like a a a one sentence and a
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: score or something.
Rizzi: Sure. are you on the deal
matt: I c
Rizzi: first?
matt: sure, sure.
Pip: Yeah, it's your segment.
Rizzi: Or the pick or the part of the butt. I would say just one sentence to describe the game, like what's gonna happen.
matt: Yeah, we're just like a like like a little synopsis, whatever. 'Cause we did hit on a lot
Rizzi: This is gonna
matt: of points, but
Rizzi: the game that changes the time for the regime, A G legacy game, whatever you wanna call it, we go in there, we upset twenty eight to twenty four.
matt: Love it. I think you could go Pip.
Pip: I'm gonna say
Rizzi: Ha ha ha
Pip: we're gonna lose twenty three to six just because I
matt: Holy shit.
Rizzi: Yeah.
Pip: think it's winnable and just because I have hope. I'm gonna say we lose twenty three
Rizzi: Yeah.
Pip: to six. Drake may rushes for over a hundred yards.
Rizzi: That's the most painful painful one to lose too. Like he's just running all over us
Pip: Yep.
Rizzi: like it's three and eight.
matt: Ha ha ha.
Rizzi: It's third and eight and like Sheryl's spying him. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. He just
matt: But there's no fifty yard run in there. It's all it's all like twelve yard chunks. Yeah. It's all
Pip: Yeah, just just all like fifteen yards. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna say we're gonna bring this pressure that I want. It's gonna get absolutely cooked. I'm gonna be a hundred percent wrong about bringing it. Rushes for a hundred yards, lose twenty-three to six.
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
matt: Alright. Well Yeah, I'm gonna throw all the positive stuff out the window. 45 nothing. Patriots. I'm kidding. no,
Rizzi: No
matt: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Pip: It's just crazy how you switch up and you're not consistent.
matt: I So I if if this if this was awful loss, that's what I would have said. But they they showed that they they got some fight in them, that they didn't heal over and die. That was one thing I needed to see last week. So I think The fact that they say that they know that this is an important game, New England has been saying this is not a Jets team that we're taking lightly, you know, they could say that and then trounce us, who knows? But I think I think they gotta they're gonna come in with an attitude and I don't think they're gonna win, but I think they're gonna kinda put the Patriots on the like, you know, we're we're not you're not gonna bulldoze us anymore. So I think this game ends up Thirty one. Thirty one twenty three. That's might be a little generous. But I yeah, I d I I think the England's gonna score. But yeah.
Rizzi: That's fine.
matt: My main thing for the defense, they gotta they they really do when they rush, especially when they rush for, they have to contain, dude. They can't they g they can't be r like rushing upfield and stuff. They gotta they gotta play smart and just keep that pocket moving in instead of upfield because that's when exactly when Drake s slips out of the pocket and gets those chunk runs. But I think I'm excited I I I think they're gonna I wanna see some fight. I think we're gonna I think we're gonna see some fight, so
Pip: I just feel like the entire fan base actually has hope and we are going to get smacked. I'm not even saying
Rizzi: Well Which is a problem.
matt: No, I don't think they're gonna I don't I don't think they're gonna win, bro. But I
Pip: win. Like a lot I've seen what you're saying. I've seen us winning, us being competitive. It it is it is the scheduled letdown.
matt: Of it is. It's always it's always
Pip: Disaster class.
matt: in New England.
Rizzi: Well we already had our letdown, hopefully. Week four.
Pip: You think we only have one a year?
Rizzi: Well for now, like a letdown would be like like you win the you win this game or you play this game tough, you go beat the Dolphins, and you lose like twenty eight to ten to the Raiders.
matt: I don't know, man. I'm I'm doing I'm doing this from the sense that last week I think the sense was like, yo, if we lose this we're like kinda everyone's in deep shit, like coaching staff wise and stuff. And I think the players do as much as much as he has his flaws, they do clearly love Aaron Glenn.
Rizzi: They love them.
matt: And I think this one, it's like, yo, look, we saw we could win. Now this is a team that hasn't taken us seriously recently. We gotta go fucking you know, give them punch in the face. Y you gotta you gotta draw first blood too. You can't they can't just have a first drive, you know, seven minute drive and that you're you're gonna see how it's gonna go early, I think.
Rizzi: You'll know right away. You'll know right away. Unfortunately. Or fortunately.
Pip: I don't know, we're a second half team.
Rizzi: We ha yeah, I mean I guess we have been, but I don't know. I sh it is just a lot of scar tissue. Like don't walk down the field a seven minute drive and score a touchdown and here we fuck.
matt: It is. It's per it's perfectly set up. It but but I it's perfectly set up for the for the blowout that ends the regime and it could be, but I I I don't I don't know. I think I think there's gonna be some respect
Rizzi: But I will say
matt: even if they lose a a fight a close game.
Rizzi: Like there might be some faith within the fan base, but I don't think anyone no one outside of of the fan base is giving us a chance. At all.
Pip: No, nobody is.
matt: But a and and it's
Rizzi: Which is which makes me feel a little bit better. Like if if
Pip: No.
Rizzi: all the people giving us a shot, I'd be like, fuck, we're we're really gonna get our get the rug pulled out from under us, but now that it's kind of just the fan base that's kinda starting to believe, it's like, okay, well, everyone still doesn't believe in us.
matt: Dude, and it's also the point of like you you through five weeks you kinda look like a functioning member of the NFL society, which you haven't in a really long time. So like I kinda hope you you can hang around
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: with a team that you see twice a year, you know. Like dude, like, come on. Like this is this is not
Rizzi: And they and this is a Patriots team that is gonna be like nine and eight. Or ten and seven. They're they're not this they're not the thirteen and four Patriots.
matt: And we're and we're not last year either. So like I I really hope we don't get f steamrolled two times in three weeks. I would hope I would hope the I would hope there's a higher standard than that, but
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: and I think there is. I truthfully think there is. For their flaws that we've pointed out many times, I do think there's a higher standard than there has been.
Rizzi: Yeah. So are we gonna do this college quarterback segment? Is that what you're getting into next, Pip?
Pip: Give me one second.
Rizzi: Is it your rankings?
Pip: And there we are.
Rizzi: What is it? it's a mock draft.
Pip: Some mock draft.
Rizzi: Let's go. I'm excited.
matt: The NFL S E mock
Rizzi: Who's up? Us.
Pip: Where up?
Rizzi: Who's who's on the board here? We're the quarterbacks.
matt: Go up, Drew's definitely gone.
Rizzi: it's CJ.
Pip: Drew's gone. Yeah, Drew's gone. Drew and Arch are gone.
matt: Okay. Well
Rizzi: CJ.
matt: last week who did we take first? Arch.
Pip: Yeah, we took Arch, we took we took Arch,
Rizzi: Walk to Arch, bro. Come on. So done with him.
Pip: we took Cole, and I think we took Jones.
matt: And Kelly Jones. Yeah. So gimme
Rizzi: Your own.
matt: gimme CJ Carr, bro.
Rizzi: CJ.
Pip: All right. Yep.
matt: we we moved two pegs. Forgot. Alright, so
Rizzi: Do we go Jordan? No. No we can't.
Pip: His name's Jaden, if you can get it correct, thank you.
Rizzi: Jaden, I couldn't read that.
matt: Give me Jaden Ball.
Pip: all right. So me personally, I think we should have fun with this one. And I think we should go get Nick Marsh or Cam Coleman.
Rizzi: Try to
matt: I think we should take Jaden Bar.
Rizzi: What do we take graduato?
Pip: Maybe if we didn't give Brees the money he didn't deserve.
matt: We have we have we have our wide receiver core if it's not Jeremiah Smith.
Rizzi: That's very I I I agree with you there. We don't need another receiver.
Pip: I mean, what has AD or Cooper have actually shown us?
matt: We don't know yet.
Rizzi: Well I mean this
Pip: Exactly.
Rizzi: I I have I mean I have faith in Cooper. And I have faith in A
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: D once his diabetic fucking finger gets healed.
matt: Based off based off Omar based off Omar Cooper's sample size, he was probably an all pro.
Rizzi: What's the
matt: Based off two plays that he p that he was a part of. He he drove Elante Taylor into the dirt and then had a thirty five yard yak play. So he's probably in future all pro.
Rizzi: We also pick right after this too.
Pip: Yeah. So do you want to take an Ellis Robinson? So we don't have two big lanky corners.
matt: What is the interior defensive line going on? What's what's
Pip: What did you say?
matt: happening? What's happening with the interior defensive line? I Will Eccles is gone.
Pip: Well Echoes is gone it It's it's the two what do you call it? Miami guys and the two
matt: David Stone.
Pip: Oregon guys. And then David Stone has been disappointing to start the year.
matt: I'm just saying in the second round I want Bear Alexander because I just want Bear Alexander.
Rizzi: Are we gonna do multiple rounds here
Pip: Is he not the guy that just
Rizzi: or just
Pip: that just killed Nico?
matt: Yes. And his name is Bear, so
Pip: Yeah, I'll take Yeah. Did you see that, Rizzy?
Rizzi: Yeah.
Pip: Yeah.
matt: Alright, so what what are we I still am so so in on Chris Cole.
Pip: Yeah, but let's mix it up. Let's highlight some other people.
matt: Well, I don't like what else do what else do we
Rizzi: Well, I heard opposite and Drake Johnson.
Pip: I I like either Robinson or Ashton Hampton.
matt: Did we take Greg Johnson last time?
Pip: And I thought Ashton Hampton looked incredible against Malachi Tony.
Rizzi: I like him just 'cause he's bigger,
matt: We could take a
Rizzi: a couple inches bigger and a bit a little bit heavier.
matt: We could do a corner and a guard. I don't mind that.
Pip: I see like this is such a trade out opportunity for Trevor. Like some team is moving up for Trevor. Will Eccles isn't going here.
matt: Can we ch wait, let's see if we we have trade
Rizzi: Can we trade down? Can we trade down?
matt: we have trade offers. We have trade offers up there.
Pip: Let's build an offer. No, they
Rizzi: What was
matt: With the Titans, with the Titans.
Pip: don't have another pick. Who needs an offensive tackle? The Bengals definitely need an offensive tackle.
Rizzi: The bangle. the the bangles would be the tackle.
matt: Wait, who are the who were the wait? No, who were the who were the offers No the Bear the Bears have MINS. Or the Bengals, holy shit.
Pip: Who do they have on the other side?
matt: Wait, check the incoming trades. Can't you can't you
Pip: I did already, they're horrible.
matt: you can't ca you could counter.
Pip: They only have pick thirty three and they've already picked.
matt: my god.
Rizzi: Yikes.
matt: Bro, why don't these teams have three firsts?
Pip: All right, let's go trade with the Bengals. 'Cause they want
matt: Trevor Goosby.
Pip: Looks good to me. And we're back.
matt: All right. Sounds good. I don't even
Rizzi: Let's go more.
matt: know what we got. You were just clicking buttons.
Rizzi: Who's the check?
Pip: They took Jaden Ball.
Rizzi: They're too bad.
matt: wow, they trade they traded up for a running back. All right. I actually
Rizzi: We still could get Greg Jones.
matt: love that by the way, because Chase Brown is an industry plant.
Rizzi: Anyways.
matt: He literally is. Even though I just traded for him in a redraft, I he's such an industry plan. He's just not good.
Pip: I love taking Nick Marsh.
matt: But so I'm I'm doing this as things sit right now.
Pip: As things sit right now, A D doesn't have an extension.
matt: As things sit right now, we don't he can come back next week and be a stud,
Rizzi: We'll let it up.
matt: so can Cooper.
Pip: Like, obviously we both want Chris Cole.
Rizzi: I have a walk.
matt: I personally I don't I don't I don't think it's I don't think it's useful to take a first round receiver with who we have unless it's Jeremiah.
Rizzi: Right.
matt: Jeremiah, I run to the podium and drive whoever needs to go to the airport. I don't care but
Pip: So do you wanna take you
Rizzi: Even if Drew is there, you still take Jeremiah, no.
Pip: wanna take Trevor?
matt: Wait, what'd you say, Grizzy?
Rizzi: If Drew is there and it's between Drew and Jeremiah, who do you take?
matt: I yeah, I take Jeremiah over anybody.
Rizzi: Really?
matt: Yeah. As much as I love Drew, I just like Yeah, right. And
Rizzi: All right. 'Cause then we can still get a quarterback in the first round.
matt: I just like d like you really wanna
Pip: If it's between Drew and Jeremiah and you're taking the wide receiver, then you're out of your fucking mind.
Rizzi: I have a I have a hard
matt: Dude, you wanna you y dude, you you wanna I dude, I mean I love Dra I dude
Rizzi: I have a hard time. I love Drew.
matt: I don't know if anyone loves the guy more than I do, but I do I wanna be the person that doesn't draft him?
Pip: Yeah, I'm okay with it.
Rizzi: But then what if what if like Drew goes to the Dolphins and then you deal you're dealing with him for the next ten years?
Pip: And then you just have a receiver with no quarterback that can get him the ball.
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: Yeah, you have a receiver with CJ Carr.
Rizzi: Okay.
Pip: No. is Trevor Locke the guy
matt: You have Geno Smith and Jeremiah Smith.
Rizzi: Okay.
Pip: that could that's gonna be playing center?
Rizzi: Holy fuck,
matt: No, that's
Rizzi: six five, three hundred and fourteen pounds.
matt: That's the kid from Indiana. I already forgot his name.
Rizzi: Cole Johnson's even bigger, six six, three twenty five. Jesus.
Pip: Dude, look at Trey as green, six seven, two hundred and forty pounds.
matt: Give me Kawan Lacey.
Rizzi: See you later. Thanks, Renata.
Pip: All right, let's take Greg Johnson.
Rizzi: Yeah.
matt: Cuan Lacy, Kuan Lacy, Kuan Lacey.
Pip: Let's take the boring pick. Yep.
Rizzi: I love to walk.
matt: How about how about KJ Bolden?
Pip: I think Ahmad Hardy after he's done being
Rizzi: More flattery.
Pip: shot.
matt: We owe KJ Bolden. We already traded back.
Pip: Alright. I mean w we need to get Belton extended.
matt: Dude, that guy that guy might be that might he might be an all pro, dude.
Pip: Yeah, dude, he's playing out of his mind. There
matt: Disgusting.
Pip: we go, boys.
matt: Let's go. Nice.
Pip: The one thing I think our defense doesn't need is secondary help right now, and we took two people for the secondary.
matt: No, we they do
Rizzi: Well, why did you not take Rank Johnson?
matt: long long term. Long term long term they do.
Pip: Yeah.
Rizzi: Why did you take Greg Johnson?
Pip: 'Cause I think I you could just pay a guard. Like we we can't keep spending first round capital on the entire offensive line.
matt: I want dude like that th
Rizzi: All right.
matt: th this draft coming up. we said it we said it on the last time we did a mock draft. This draft needs to be like the difference maker draft. Like they built the roster through these last few drafts. This one needs to like, yo, go get that like KJ Bolden sitting there in the middle of the first round. Go draft him. He's gonna be spearheading your secondary for the next X amount of year. Like that's what it needs to be. I i I don't care about positional value like Chris Cole. He's sitting there, he runs sideline to sideline in three point eight seconds. That's who I want. I don't care about that he's a linebacker.
Pip: And that's why if you miss on quarterback in this draft, you are fucked.
matt: If I if you miss on quarterback, you're chilling in this draft.
Rizzi: We'll just get we'll just get Keywood Russell next year. Or yeah, the draft. True.
Pip: Dude, we are no, cause our roster is gonna be too good. It's gonna be like when Zach wasn't
matt: Dude.
Pip: ready. Like our if we miss on quarterback in the twenty twenty seven class, we are fucked for a decade.
Rizzi: Well, what if K is the guy?
Pip: Anyway, this was a great episode, guys. I'm really happy that I was able to get back on the mic with you,
Rizzi: Ha ha ha.
Pip: Rizzy. It's been a minute. Since since before the Lions game. Yeah,
Rizzi: And since the Lions game, yeah.
Pip: so thank you all for listening.
matt: We're doing
Pip: That was
