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Arden More.
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Hey, pet pals, Welcome to the Obhave Show on Pet
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Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Get ready to
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end bark Yeah, I did say in Bark on a
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world adventure. It spotlights some amazing dogs. Now serving as
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our possom guide is one of the best dog photographers
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on the planet. He just unleashed a musket book. It
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is called Working Dogs through the lens of love and duty,
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not doo dooo dooty. Please welcome to our show photographer
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and author and dog lover John Bobbiano.
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How you doing, John, I'm doing fantastic, Arden. Thank you
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so much for having me.
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Hey, pet Pals. John is the shining testament that you
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should pursue your passions. He is self described as a
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nobody in the photography world just a handful of years ago.
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Since then, he has been honored as the International Documentary
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Dogographer of the Year. Talk about of bow wow. Now
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how did they do this? You're about to find out,
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Let's talk pets on Petlife Radio dot Com. All Behaviors
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back with more tail wagging ways to achieve harmony of
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the household with your pets. Now back to your fetching host,
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America's pet edutainer Ardenmore.
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Welcome back to the Old Behaved show on pet Life Radio.
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I'm your host, Ardenmore. Our special guest is an award
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winning photographer, John Fabiano. A lot of bottels in that name.
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He is the author of the book You've Got to
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Get You Pause on. It is called Working Dogs through
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the Lens of Love and Duty. Hey, John, let's dig in.
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Now you're gonna have some fun with me. I hope.
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I want you to tell all of us what you
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were doing and what I'm calling you. Ready for it?
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B p D? Before photographing dogs? What were you doing? Yeah?
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So I was working a pretty normal career. I worked
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in sales and a couple different industries, originally in apparel,
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then in the tech world. So I was selling software
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some jobs I really liked others that were just not
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as fulfilling. But when COVID hit, I invested in a
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camera for the first time. I always had a bit
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of an interest in photography and found that I just
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absolutely loved photographing dogs. And when the idea came to
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me to travel the world and photograph dogs in different cultures,
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it was one that just consumed me and I couldn't
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kick and I saw an opportunity to make it happen.
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I took a bunch of small steps to get there,
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and then took the leap and started traveling full time
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for what I thought would be about a year, and
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it was about three years total that I was pursuing
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it full time.
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Now, did you scratch off a lottery ticket or what?
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That's a big, big mission.
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Yeah. I probably planned it for about five years before
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I started traveling, when the idea was small, but always
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putting money away with this idea.
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And remember during COVID, we actually had money in the
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bank because we weren't going anywhere.
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Yeah, I would say during COVID is when I saved
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a chunk of my money. And then I got to
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the point and I sold everything everything that I had
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of value, which wasn't much, but I just got as
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much cash in the bank as I could and said,
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all right, I have some savings, let's go spend it
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on something that I've dreamt of doing.
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What was the first real camera that you got, you
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got your paws on?
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It was a Nikon DSLR, the D seven to fifty.
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It's still the camera that I use today. I'm wanting
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in a need of an upgrade, but we're not quite
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there yet financially.
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Well, you've been on our show, so maybe we'll sell
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at least three copies of your book Working Dogs, and
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that should help, right.
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Yes, that's the next goal of a Zach grading the gear.
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So you get the camera. But and this is important
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for others that want to follow their dreams, John, you
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started reaching out to people, right, Yeah.
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The first person I reached out to was a photography teacher,
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because I said, if I'm going to be serious about this,
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I don't want to just have it as something on
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the side. I snapped photos here and there, and he
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just pushed me to become a better photographer, taught me
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how to use my camera, gave me a lot of
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good advice along the way. And then I when I
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was ready to start traveling, I've really mapped out where
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I wanted to go, the relationships I wanted to see
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in the world, and I was not hesitant to email
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anyone and everyone that I found interesting and said can
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I come visit and photograph your dogs?
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I love it? So who's the shout out to your teacher?
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His name's Colin Gordon. He's in Buffalo, New York. He
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is a fantastic photographer. He does weddings primarily, but if
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you need him for anything, he is an artist in
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the truest sense.
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Oh that's great. So your book it's a big book, guys.
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It's over two hundred and thirty pages. And I have
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really strong arms now because I've been weightlifting. His book,
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Working Dogs. It's beautiful. It's like National Geographic, you know,
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meets Life magazine. So you are on this adventure. I
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don't want to spoil everything, but if you could kind
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of share, I think there's twenty chapters. Correct, yes, And
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if you want to know this, the American Kennel Club
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has recognized two hundred and one dog breeds, and everybody
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knows there's you know, the poodle and the Corgi and
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blah blah blah. But your book, your book is identifying
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different kinds of dogs that put the capital D in diversity.
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I'm just looking really quickly. You've got I want us
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to go by the chapter, so one of the ones
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I want you to talk with. If you don't mind,
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can we can you be our tour guide?
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John on this absolutely, I'd be happy to.
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All right, So we're going to go to Australia, maybe
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down Under, and you met a woman Jan McIntyre kelpies.
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What are kelpies? I know about Australian shepherds and border
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collies and corgi's. Oh my, but kelpies.
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Yeah. I found that the kelpies are the standard there.
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That's the breed that stockmen and women have used to
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move their livestock around massive padd and I was unaware
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of that breed really before I started researching it a
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bit more. I always thought of collie's and cheap dogs,
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similar to you. And we found that a lot of
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the farmers there that I met would use a mix
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of them. Kelpies seemed to be the greater number of them,
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and kelpies. They describe them as independent thinkers.
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That's a nice way to say my way or the highway.
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Yeah, they say they would keep both. And they say
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with the kelpies, you tell them what to do and
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they're like a teenager. They say, yeah, I know, yeah,
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I know, I got this. And Collie's on the other hand,
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you tell them what to do and it's like yeah, yes,
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of course, and what's next, yes, and what's next yes,
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I captain. So they like to use a mix of them,
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but kelpies were the standard, that was the breed that.
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That was my first real exposure to it and watching
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them work, you can tell, especially being around really young kelpies,
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they're born with it. They're born to muster.
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Had you ever been to Australia before?
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No, my first time was that one.
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Of your first ventures. Did you just leave Buffalo, New
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York and say, see, yeah, going all the way to
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the other side of the world.
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No, The first place I went to is Germany. Australia
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was probably around country number nine or ten on the
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list of where I'm at all.
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Right, So segway to Germany because you went into the
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dogs that are being trained for being police work and
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protection right in Nuremberg.
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going and watching a dog training facility. It's really they
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call it. It's like a club where people that just
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have a passion for training working breeds, German shepherds, malanoir.
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There was a big Schnauzer there and watching what these
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dogs are capable of was just incredible. I got to
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see the bite work in action, putting on the.
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Big come on, share a little bit because who's the
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brave or well maybe a little brain cells missing, This
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is sure, I'll volunteer to put that bite sleeve on.
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At the end of the day, I did it, and
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it's it's something. It was very eye opening to me
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because you watch videos online and you see dogs sprinting
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and jumping and lunging and grabbing on. But then when
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you see it in person and you watch the training,
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you see realize how controlled it is. These dogs. They
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put a special collar on and they know when that
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collo goes on, they're going to practice bike work. They're
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only going to bite the sleeve or the suit. They
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would never So when I had it, I have a
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dog that's it's got its entire mouth on my arm.
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It is biting down. It is really making a lot
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of noises, but I'm petting its head and it's kind
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of like cooing a little and there's no worry that
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it's just going to like latch onto my hand or anything,
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because this is exercise that they've worked on and trained
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to the point of first biting the sleeve and then
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putting the sleeve on and things like that, so they
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know that's the only thing that they are ever trained
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to bite. So it was really impressive, and after watching it,
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I didn't have any fear giving it a shot myself.
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Oh my gosh, So you're a brave man. You also
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did another place in Ireland. I'm really curious because you
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were focusing on search and rescue and I fell in
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love with the photos of Doris and Daphney. Tell everybody
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what kind of dogs they are. They are rot while
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all right, I love Roddy's tell us about what that
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adventure was about.
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Yeah, so I originally went to Ireland to focus on
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what they refer to as restricted breeds. These are dogs
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that they think are inherently dangerous and there's a lot
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of regulations. They have to be muzzled in public, things
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like that, surrounding at you know, sort of the reputations
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that some breeds get, which oftentimes I think are.
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What are the other breeds that have to be muzzled
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in public?
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Off the top of my head, it's Doberman, German shepherds,
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pit bull mixes, Cane Corsos, Dougle, Argentinos. There's eleven or
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twelve different breeds, I believe, and I want to focus
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on the relationships people had with these dogs. They selected
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them knowing that there's going to be regulations on them.
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But I really love those Rottweilers, which are one of
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the restricted breeds, showing that when they have a proper
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trainer and handler and owner who knows how to handle
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a working breed, what they're capable of. And I believe
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at the time they were the only two Rottweilers that
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were doing search and rescue in all of Ireland, just
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because they had trainers who knew how to work these
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breeds who have a history as working dogs. And it's
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really just showing like, if you get a certain breed,
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you have to know what's the temperament, what's skill set,
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what was it originally read for, what are the instincts
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and using those in a positive light shows what you
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can make of these dogs, and that's what Doris and
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Daphnie where they were really incredible.
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you see when it's time to start training, like they
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get to work. Yeah, and they're doing search and rescue,
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so they know that there's a scent. They give them
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something and they have to go find the scent. And
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remember I think it was Doris coming by and gave
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like a quick sniff and then was on her way
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like I don't care, I have no interest in this person.
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It is not the sn I'm looking for, and then
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she kept going. And then at the end they reward them,
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like Doris wanted to play with the ball, that's her reward.
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good love that in many cases doing life saving work.
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make it lost. They've helped a search and rescue for
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people like that. So it really is incredible work that
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these dogs do. But it's funny. At the end of
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Hey, pet Pals, we're speaking with John Fabiano. He is
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the author of the book Working Dogs. We're gonna have
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some fun because when we come back from the break,
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about monkey dogs and lobster dogs, all of this and
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Here's Arden, Welcome back to the old Behave show on
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TET Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Our special
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guest is John Fabiano. He is an award winning photographer.
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He is the author of a great book called Working
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Dogs through the Lens of Love and Duty And he's
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been how many countries nineteen and counting? Or have you
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added since I did some research on you.
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We're up to twenty four that I've done for graffing dogs. Yeah.
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Four Wow. And when you're not on the job photographing
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dogs all over the world, do you want to give
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a shout out to your sweet dog?
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Oh, Viola, my girl. Yeah. Viola is what is she?
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German Shepherd, Australian cattle dog and bloodhound is the top breed.
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That is, she's a mix of like eleven or twelve dogs.
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She was a part of a litter that was dumped
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on the side of the road in South Carolina and
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they were making their way up to shelter in Canada
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and I reached out when she was in transit and
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said can I have her? They said yes, and I've
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had her ever since. She's been to four or five
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countries with me so far, so she's count We went
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to Costa Rica for about four months a couple of
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years ago, and then now we live in the Netherlands,
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she's been there, and then just recently we went to France.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, Viola's bounced around. She's been into
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Canada because I live right on the border in Buffalo,
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my hometown.
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Oh yeah, and is how old is Viola now?
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She is seven seven?
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So does her bark change when she goes to France?
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Yeah?
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She uh. I don't think Viole is smart enough to
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learn one language, let alone too.
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Oh that okay, all right? And you also have a
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two legger with you?
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Who is Yes, Stephanie, my wife, My lovely, fantastic wife
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who has been unbelievably supportive and just along for the
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ride with me for so much of it.
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Does she take photos too? Or what's her she?
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I always call her? She's an unpaid employee of mine.
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She was.
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All my employees are unplayed, including myself, and Steph does
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some videography. She likes to do some behind the scenes,
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so I like to see that too, because it's not
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often that, like I get to see myself on action
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doing it. So she's snapped a handful of shots of
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me behind the camera, which is great.
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Now, think about how do you say to somebody and
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if you're in the Amsterdam or you're in Buffalo, New
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York and you're trying to reach Let's go to somebody
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in Japan and say, hey, I want to come to
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your country and talk about dogs that are keeping away
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nuisance monkeys from farm lands and without them saying scam
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it was.
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It was much harder at the beginning because I truly
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was a nobody and I didn't even have like an
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Instagram page or any real photography other than some photos
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of Viola to show them. And I slowly built together
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a portfolio, which I think gave me a little bit
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more legitimacy that I've gone to these countries and I've
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done this. I had an overall goal that I was
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working on to see these different countries, and they really
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I went with intention. I would say, I remember my
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brother Andy, who just supported me through it all, and
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in the beginning I was talking to him and he goes,
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imagine if someone from the other side of the world
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called you and said I want to take pictures of
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viola and how would you feel? And it's like I
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think I saw that and so many people that there
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was excitement and we connected immediately over all love of
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dogs and they wanted to show off their dogs to
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someone who was passionate and wanted to photograph it.
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That is awesome. So monkeys, Hey, what's going on in Japan?
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There was some town as you Meino, I don't know,
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I'm not good. I just love sushi. But there's a
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border Collie and a breed called a kai ken mm.
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Hmm, yeah to just working breeds. And monkeys are typically
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a nuisance on farmland in they go in, they tear
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apart crops, they eat them, so farmers are looking for
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ways to get rid of them, and there's a lot
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of the lethal ways to get rid of them, which
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you just find farmers looking for an alternative. They don't
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want to just be killing off these wild animals, so
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they'll bring dogs in and the dogs will come and
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chase the monkeys away. They'll live out within the crops
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and protect them, and as soon as we would show up,
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the monkeys would scatter like they knew really that the
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dogs were there. They didn't want any part of it
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and the goal. It was amazing that there was never
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any conflict. Intention good. They didn't want the monkeys and
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dogs to meet. They had incredible recall. They just want
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them to chase them off and say this is an
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area where there is danger. Stop coming here and stop
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eating the crops.
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So then you also had a use for their dog
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hair too, right they do what do they do?
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Yeah? I would say he was like he was like
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a dealer. He would he had bags like like he
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would have.
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Bags of drugs, dog hare.
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Hey, he would leave them with Yeah, let me get
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a dime bag of dog hair and he would leave
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it with them and they would scatter it all around
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the crop. So just the scent was always there for
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the monkeys as well, that you know dogs are in
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the area. The monkeys are smart enough they've seen dogs.
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There's dog here, there's the smell of it, and it
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would become an area where they would avoid.
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Oh my gosh, this is awesome. I hope you're having
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a fun time. Are you doing all right here? John? Yeah?
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All these crazy questions from me, Yeah.
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It's I could talk dogs all day.
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So I'm having all right, now we're going to go
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to Italy. I've been to Italy. Big thing there is
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truffles set us up for Burba and Maya. Those are
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the dogs.
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Yeah, yes, so we went on a truffle hunt.
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Nice.
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I always thought of pigs as doing truffle hunting, did I?
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You know, a truffle pig was always the thought in
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my mind. And actually my in law is a couple
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of years ago went to Italy and went on a
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truffle hunt with dogs. So that's the kind of thing
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that I just tuck in the back of my mind
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if I'm ever in Italy in the area, I want
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to see truffle hunting dogs. And they found that the
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dogs just do a lot less destruction to the forest.
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What do pigs dow versus dogs with paws? That's the difference.
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I think they just really tear up the ground in
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the landscape where dogs are more they'll find the truffle
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and dig in that certain spot, and pigs are more
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likely to eat the truffle. Oh, it's harder to wrestle
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it away from them.
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So it is those are big pigs too.
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Yeah, it's an adrenaline rush when you see the dogs
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start digging, because if you just let them dig, the
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dogs gonna eat the truffle. They have a taste for them.
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They have a smell phone. So the guides we were with,
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as soon as they saw that the dogs were digging,
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it's like you got to run. And as soon as
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they'd see the truffle, a hand would go in and
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they'd grab it, and it was like a big celebration
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to find the truffle.
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Have you ever eating truffles before?
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Yeah, I had had truffles before. And then we the
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truffles we brought back, they shaved right off and we
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ate them, you know, a half hour after we found
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them in the forest. So it was awesome, a really
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really cool experience.
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What's Burba and maya like bourba' is a weird breed.
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I can't even say it's just Italian.
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It's I'm going to butcher it. But it's like Legato romanogo.
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I you did pretty good.
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Yeah, my surnames Fabiano and my Italian is not as
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strong as you might think, and they are classically trained
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for truffle hunting. That was the first I really had
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exposure to that breed and heard of it and knew
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of it, but it's a type of dog that has
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just been bred for that type of work for generation.
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It's a good sized dog too.
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Yeah, they were probably twenty five thirty pounds, and but
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they moved like jumping over trees and logs and in
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and out of holes and everywhere. Just you could tell
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how much fun they were having throughout the whole experience.
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And that's the thing I've seen with a lot of
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working dogs across the world, is the dogs are just
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living to the fullest. They're having so much fun throughout.
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That's what life should be, right.
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Yeah, exactly, It's not like they're you know, I think
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of people going to work. This is the dog's going
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to work. They're couldn't be more excited.
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Yeah. Now I want to get back to the States
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because years ago I lived in California and I had
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not one, but two members of the original So Cal
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surf Dogs. It was Chippering Cleo, but we called them
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chip Ahoy and c They were having fun with it
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and they love to ride the surfboards. But you went
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to Portland, Maine and tell everybody about Captain Eric and
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I guess his dog's name was Briggs. Is Briggs.
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What would they do? So we were going on a
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road trip er on the Northeast, Stephiola and I last year,
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and at this point I knew that I was working
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on this book, and I was like, what's a working
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dog that I can find during this road trip.
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And business expense?
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Yes, And I'd heard of lobster dogs in the past
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that like are fishing dogs more so? Okay, So I
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reached It's always like reaching out in a Facebook group
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or like something like that and just saying this is
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who I am, this is what I'm doing. Does anyone
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have a lead or know anybody? And Eric reached out.
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He said, I own my own lobster fishing company and
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my dog Briggs is always on the boat with me.
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And he's a guy who started a business by himself.
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It's called Eat Lobster.
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And Eat Come on slow down. Where does that spell?
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Yeah? And he'd showed me such a good day with
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him and Briggs on the boat, and he started the
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business by himself. He'd be out on the water all
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the time alone if it wasn't for Briggs. So it's
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really the companionship, camaraderie. If anything is to happen, He's
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got Brigs with him.
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What kind of dog is Briggs? Would you say?
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He's a black lab?
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Okay, okay, so he's a good sized dog that's right.
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Imperfect for the water. If he falls in, he can
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swim and just brings the enthusiasm, high energy. And you
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tell him to drive the boat, he jumps up next
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to the wheel. You say lobster. He puts his paws
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up on the side and looks out in the distance.
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Really yeah, so he had so.
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Much better than sit, stay, leave it right. Breaks is like, yeah, baby,
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give me some clever commands.
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Eric will send me a video just him saying lobster
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in the house and Briggs comes running through and from
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the other room like he just loves going on the boat.
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And it was really cool to watch someone just doing
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their everyday work and having a dog by the side
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throughout all of it.
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There's so many chapters to this book that you've created.
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This is really a work of art. Is there a
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special tale we haven't discussed that you would love to
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share with our resillions of listeners and doers.
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I would say the most important one to me is
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the hospital therapy dogs and witnessing the work that they do.
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I've had tears in my eyes behind the camera twice
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and both of them were instances being in hospitals and
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watching what these dogs do for people on some of
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the hardest journeys that they're going through in their lives.
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So just seeing what a dog laying in a bed
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with someone who's stuck in a hospital bed can do
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and bring them to tears. And someone breaking down who
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just passed a dog in the lobby and said can
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I stop and pet them? And this woman just started
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crying and said, thank you. This is the highlight of
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my day, Like I needed this so much. And the
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dogs aren't doing anything special other than just being dogs
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and the presents that they give and the mood change
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as soon as they walk in the room. A portion
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of sales from the book is going to a cancer
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institute Roswell and Buffalo in my hometown where my brother
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works as a doctor. And then the other one was
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Animas in Portugal and they do therapy dog work all
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up and down the country of Portugal. So it was
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that moving to me, and it was very important to
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me in publishing this book that I wanted to get
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back to dogs, and it was a no brainer that
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it was going to be hospital therapy dogs.
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So saying that, I want to make sure that people
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know how to follow John Bobiano and can you share
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Facebook Instagram? How do people keep tabs? And if they
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want to help the hospitals in Portugal or in the States,
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how do they get to do that?
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Yep, So I am on both Facebook and on Instagram.
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My profile is Wags around the World.
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Wags around the World.
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That's easy, yes, And I post regularly about both these
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organizations just because they're that important to me. I post
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Roswell Cancer institutes social media. ANI moster their social media
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and it's the type of like uplifting things that you
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go on social media to see, to see these dogs
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in action, to see the smiles they put on people's faces,
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especially the children, like no kid ever wants to be
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in a hospital and neither is a guest or a patient.
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And to see the kids as patients who are scheduling
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their visits on the days the dogs are coming because
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they know if I have to go to the hospital,
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I want to hang out with the dog in the process.
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And just it was really really special to see the
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positive impact they have.
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So we ask a lot of our guests, What would
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be a superpower that dogs have that you wish you had?
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And why? What's something that dogs do that you and
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don't say, lift your leg really high?
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I think it's one that I try like, I look
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at them as role models for like enjoying every little
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day and every little thing. It's appreciation of the smallest
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things in life, which I think we get too busy
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and our brains get too cluttered that like, little instances
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can bring us so much joy if we stop and
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taken appreciation for him every single time I come home, Viola,
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it celebrates me like I just won the super Bowl
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and then returning home to just appreciate the things that
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you love in your life that much. It's something that
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I look at dogs as role models in that respect.
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I love it. Hey, everybody, we've had John Fabiano on.
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He is the author of Working Dogs. You got to
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get his book and his heart does beat dog and
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you have been an amazing source of inspiration follow your dreams, folks.
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He just is living proof of that. I also, at
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this time want to do a shout out to my producer,
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Mark Winter. He is the executive producer of Pet Life Radio.
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We are the largest pet radio network on the planet.
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Hopefully we'll get to the moon and maybe try to
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brag on that one too, But please check out all
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the shows on pet Life Radio. You can follow me.
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I got a weird name, Arden Moore. Real name, real name,
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Go to YouTube, go to Facebook. My passion is helping
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save lives of pets, so I have now a cat
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and two dogs trained to help me to teach veterinary
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approved pet first Aid all over the world. We teach
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in person via zoom and self pace, So check out
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pet first Aid for you, and I do a shout
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out to my team KNA, Casey and NOVS six toasts.
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So until next time, this is your flea free host,
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Arden Moore saying just two words to all you two
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three and four lakers out there.
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Oh behave coast to coast and around the world.
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It's all behaved with Art and Moore.
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Find out why cats and dogs do the things they do,
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and get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and tails
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and rent ten tinsel Town from famous pet experts and
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Let's talk pets.
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It's all behaved with Arden More, this show that teaches
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A dog one fer flying fun time.
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unleash your oh behave hosts America's pet ed You tainer
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Arden More.
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Hey, pet pals, Welcome to the Obhave Show on Pet
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Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Get ready to
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end bark Yeah, I did say in Bark on a
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world adventure. It spotlights some amazing dogs. Now serving as
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our possom guide is one of the best dog photographers
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on the planet. He just unleashed a musket book. It
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is called Working Dogs through the lens of love and duty,
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not doo dooo dooty. Please welcome to our show photographer
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and author and dog lover John Bobbiano.
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How you doing, John, I'm doing fantastic, Arden. Thank you
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so much for having me.
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Hey, pet Pals. John is the shining testament that you
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should pursue your passions. He is self described as a
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nobody in the photography world just a handful of years ago.
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Since then, he has been honored as the International Documentary
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Dogographer of the Year. Talk about of bow wow. Now
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how did they do this? You're about to find out,
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But first we got to take a break. You all
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know the drill. Sit, stay, We'll be right back.
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Time for a pause. Four very ones, Actually sit and stay.
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All behave We'll be right back.
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Let's talk pets on Petlife Radio dot Com. All Behaviors
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back with more tail wagging ways to achieve harmony of
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the household with your pets. Now back to your fetching host,
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America's pet edutainer Ardenmore.
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Welcome back to the Old Behaved show on pet Life Radio.
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I'm your host, Ardenmore. Our special guest is an award
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winning photographer, John Fabiano. A lot of bottels in that name.
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He is the author of the book You've Got to
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Get You Pause on. It is called Working Dogs through
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the Lens of Love and Duty. Hey, John, let's dig in.
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Now you're gonna have some fun with me. I hope.
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I want you to tell all of us what you
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were doing and what I'm calling you. Ready for it?
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B p D? Before photographing dogs? What were you doing? Yeah?
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So I was working a pretty normal career. I worked
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in sales and a couple different industries, originally in apparel,
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then in the tech world. So I was selling software
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some jobs I really liked others that were just not
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as fulfilling. But when COVID hit, I invested in a
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camera for the first time. I always had a bit
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of an interest in photography and found that I just
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absolutely loved photographing dogs. And when the idea came to
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me to travel the world and photograph dogs in different cultures,
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it was one that just consumed me and I couldn't
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kick and I saw an opportunity to make it happen.
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I took a bunch of small steps to get there,
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and then took the leap and started traveling full time
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for what I thought would be about a year, and
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it was about three years total that I was pursuing
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it full time.
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Now, did you scratch off a lottery ticket or what?
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That's a big, big mission.
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putting money away with this idea.
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bank because we weren't going anywhere.
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a chunk of my money. And then I got to
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the point and I sold everything everything that I had
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of value, which wasn't much, but I just got as
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much cash in the bank as I could and said,
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all right, I have some savings, let's go spend it
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on something that I've dreamt of doing.
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What was the first real camera that you got, you
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got your paws on?
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It was a Nikon DSLR, the D seven to fifty.
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It's still the camera that I use today. I'm wanting
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in a need of an upgrade, but we're not quite
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there yet financially.
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Well, you've been on our show, so maybe we'll sell
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at least three copies of your book Working Dogs, and
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that should help, right.
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Yes, that's the next goal of a Zach grading the gear.
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So you get the camera. But and this is important
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for others that want to follow their dreams, John, you
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started reaching out to people, right, Yeah.
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The first person I reached out to was a photography teacher,
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because I said, if I'm going to be serious about this,
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I don't want to just have it as something on
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the side. I snapped photos here and there, and he
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just pushed me to become a better photographer, taught me
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how to use my camera, gave me a lot of
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good advice along the way. And then I when I
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was ready to start traveling, I've really mapped out where
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I wanted to go, the relationships I wanted to see
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in the world, and I was not hesitant to email
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anyone and everyone that I found interesting and said can
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I come visit and photograph your dogs?
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I love it? So who's the shout out to your teacher?
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His name's Colin Gordon. He's in Buffalo, New York. He
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is a fantastic photographer. He does weddings primarily, but if
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you need him for anything, he is an artist in
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the truest sense.
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Oh that's great. So your book it's a big book, guys.
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It's over two hundred and thirty pages. And I have
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really strong arms now because I've been weightlifting. His book,
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Working Dogs. It's beautiful. It's like National Geographic, you know,
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meets Life magazine. So you are on this adventure. I
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don't want to spoil everything, but if you could kind
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of share, I think there's twenty chapters. Correct, yes, And
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if you want to know this, the American Kennel Club
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has recognized two hundred and one dog breeds, and everybody
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knows there's you know, the poodle and the Corgi and
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blah blah blah. But your book, your book is identifying
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different kinds of dogs that put the capital D in diversity.
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I'm just looking really quickly. You've got I want us
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to go by the chapter, so one of the ones
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I want you to talk with. If you don't mind,
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can we can you be our tour guide?
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John on this absolutely, I'd be happy to.
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All right, So we're going to go to Australia, maybe
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down Under, and you met a woman Jan McIntyre kelpies.
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What are kelpies? I know about Australian shepherds and border
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collies and corgi's. Oh my, but kelpies.
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That's the breed that stockmen and women have used to
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move their livestock around massive padd and I was unaware
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of that breed really before I started researching it a
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bit more. I always thought of collie's and cheap dogs,
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similar to you. And we found that a lot of
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the farmers there that I met would use a mix
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of them. Kelpies seemed to be the greater number of them,
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and kelpies. They describe them as independent thinkers.
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That's a nice way to say my way or the highway.
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with the kelpies, you tell them what to do and
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they're like a teenager. They say, yeah, I know, yeah,
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I know, I got this. And Collie's on the other hand,
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you tell them what to do and it's like yeah, yes,
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of course, and what's next, yes, and what's next yes,
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I captain. So they like to use a mix of them,
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but kelpies were the standard, that was the breed that.
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That was my first real exposure to it and watching
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them work, you can tell, especially being around really young kelpies,
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they're born with it. They're born to muster.
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Had you ever been to Australia before?
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No, my first time was that one.
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Of your first ventures. Did you just leave Buffalo, New
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York and say, see, yeah, going all the way to
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the other side of the world.
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No, The first place I went to is Germany. Australia
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was probably around country number nine or ten on the
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list of where I'm at all.
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Right, So segway to Germany because you went into the
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dogs that are being trained for being police work and
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protection right in Nuremberg.
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going and watching a dog training facility. It's really they
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call it. It's like a club where people that just
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have a passion for training working breeds, German shepherds, malanoir.
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dogs are capable of was just incredible. I got to
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see the bite work in action, putting on the.
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Big come on, share a little bit because who's the
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brave or well maybe a little brain cells missing, This
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is sure, I'll volunteer to put that bite sleeve on.
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it's it's something. It was very eye opening to me
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because you watch videos online and you see dogs sprinting
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and jumping and lunging and grabbing on. But then when
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you see it in person and you watch the training,
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you see realize how controlled it is. These dogs. They
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put a special collar on and they know when that
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collo goes on, they're going to practice bike work. They're
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only going to bite the sleeve or the suit. They
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would never So when I had it, I have a
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dog that's it's got its entire mouth on my arm.
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It is biting down. It is really making a lot
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of noises, but I'm petting its head and it's kind
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of like cooing a little and there's no worry that
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it's just going to like latch onto my hand or anything,
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because this is exercise that they've worked on and trained
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to the point of first biting the sleeve and then
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putting the sleeve on and things like that, so they
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know that's the only thing that they are ever trained
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to bite. So it was really impressive, and after watching it,
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I didn't have any fear giving it a shot myself.
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Oh my gosh, So you're a brave man. You also
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did another place in Ireland. I'm really curious because you
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were focusing on search and rescue and I fell in
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love with the photos of Doris and Daphney. Tell everybody
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what kind of dogs they are. They are rot while
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all right, I love Roddy's tell us about what that
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adventure was about.
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Yeah, so I originally went to Ireland to focus on
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what they refer to as restricted breeds. These are dogs
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that they think are inherently dangerous and there's a lot
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of regulations. They have to be muzzled in public, things
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like that, surrounding at you know, sort of the reputations
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that some breeds get, which oftentimes I think are.
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What are the other breeds that have to be muzzled
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in public?
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Off the top of my head, it's Doberman, German shepherds,
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pit bull mixes, Cane Corsos, Dougle, Argentinos. There's eleven or
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twelve different breeds, I believe, and I want to focus
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on the relationships people had with these dogs. They selected
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them knowing that there's going to be regulations on them.
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the restricted breeds, showing that when they have a proper
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trainer and handler and owner who knows how to handle
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a working breed, what they're capable of. And I believe
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at the time they were the only two Rottweilers that
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were doing search and rescue in all of Ireland, just
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because they had trainers who knew how to work these
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breeds who have a history as working dogs. And it's
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really just showing like, if you get a certain breed,
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you have to know what's the temperament, what's skill set,
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what was it originally read for, what are the instincts
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and using those in a positive light shows what you
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can make of these dogs, and that's what Doris and
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Daphnie where they were really incredible.
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off the clock.
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They were really docile, really just sweet dogs. And then
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you see when it's time to start training, like they
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get to work. Yeah, and they're doing search and rescue,
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so they know that there's a scent. They give them
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something and they have to go find the scent. And
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I would be on a path photographing them, and I
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remember I think it was Doris coming by and gave
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like a quick sniff and then was on her way
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like I don't care, I have no interest in this person.
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she kept going. And then at the end they reward them,
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like Doris wanted to play with the ball, that's her reward.
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good love that in many cases doing life saving work.
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make it lost. They've helped a search and rescue for
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people like that. So it really is incredible work that
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these dogs do. But it's funny. At the end of
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the day, for them, it's just a game and something
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there to really utilize the instincts and the capabilities that
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Hey, pet Pals, we're speaking with John Fabiano. He is
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the author of the book Working Dogs. We're gonna have
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some fun because when we come back from the break,
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we're going to talk about things like truffle dogs, how
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about monkey dogs and lobster dogs, all of this and
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more after we take this break. So sit, stay, we'll
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TET Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Our special
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guest is John Fabiano. He is an award winning photographer.
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He is the author of a great book called Working
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Dogs through the Lens of Love and Duty And he's
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been how many countries nineteen and counting? Or have you
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added since I did some research on you.
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We're up to twenty four that I've done for graffing dogs. Yeah.
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Four Wow. And when you're not on the job photographing
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dogs all over the world, do you want to give
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a shout out to your sweet dog?
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Oh, Viola, my girl. Yeah. Viola is what is she?
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German Shepherd, Australian cattle dog and bloodhound is the top breed.
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That is, she's a mix of like eleven or twelve dogs.
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She was a part of a litter that was dumped
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on the side of the road in South Carolina and
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they were making their way up to shelter in Canada
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and I reached out when she was in transit and
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said can I have her? They said yes, and I've
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had her ever since. She's been to four or five
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countries with me so far, so she's count We went
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to Costa Rica for about four months a couple of
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years ago, and then now we live in the Netherlands,
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she's been there, and then just recently we went to France.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, Viola's bounced around. She's been into
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Canada because I live right on the border in Buffalo,
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my hometown.
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Oh yeah, and is how old is Viola now?
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She is seven seven?
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So does her bark change when she goes to France?
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She uh. I don't think Viole is smart enough to
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learn one language, let alone too.
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Oh that okay, all right? And you also have a
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two legger with you?
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Who is Yes, Stephanie, my wife, My lovely, fantastic wife
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who has been unbelievably supportive and just along for the
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ride with me for so much of it.
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Does she take photos too? Or what's her she?
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I always call her? She's an unpaid employee of mine.
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She was.
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All my employees are unplayed, including myself, and Steph does
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some videography. She likes to do some behind the scenes,
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so I like to see that too, because it's not
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often that, like I get to see myself on action
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doing it. So she's snapped a handful of shots of
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me behind the camera, which is great.
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Now, think about how do you say to somebody and
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if you're in the Amsterdam or you're in Buffalo, New
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York and you're trying to reach Let's go to somebody
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in Japan and say, hey, I want to come to
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your country and talk about dogs that are keeping away
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nuisance monkeys from farm lands and without them saying scam
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it was.
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It was much harder at the beginning because I truly
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was a nobody and I didn't even have like an
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Instagram page or any real photography other than some photos
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of Viola to show them. And I slowly built together
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a portfolio, which I think gave me a little bit
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more legitimacy that I've gone to these countries and I've
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done this. I had an overall goal that I was
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working on to see these different countries, and they really
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I went with intention. I would say, I remember my
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brother Andy, who just supported me through it all, and
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in the beginning I was talking to him and he goes,
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imagine if someone from the other side of the world
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called you and said I want to take pictures of
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viola and how would you feel? And it's like I
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think I saw that and so many people that there
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was excitement and we connected immediately over all love of
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dogs and they wanted to show off their dogs to
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someone who was passionate and wanted to photograph it.
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That is awesome. So monkeys, Hey, what's going on in Japan?
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There was some town as you Meino, I don't know,
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I'm not good. I just love sushi. But there's a
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border Collie and a breed called a kai ken mm.
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Hmm, yeah to just working breeds. And monkeys are typically
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a nuisance on farmland in they go in, they tear
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apart crops, they eat them, so farmers are looking for
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ways to get rid of them, and there's a lot
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of the lethal ways to get rid of them, which
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you just find farmers looking for an alternative. They don't
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want to just be killing off these wild animals, so
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they'll bring dogs in and the dogs will come and
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chase the monkeys away. They'll live out within the crops
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and protect them, and as soon as we would show up,
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the monkeys would scatter like they knew really that the
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dogs were there. They didn't want any part of it
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and the goal. It was amazing that there was never
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any conflict. Intention good. They didn't want the monkeys and
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dogs to meet. They had incredible recall. They just want
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them to chase them off and say this is an
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area where there is danger. Stop coming here and stop
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eating the crops.
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So then you also had a use for their dog
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hair too, right they do what do they do?
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Yeah? I would say he was like he was like
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a dealer. He would he had bags like like he
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would have.
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Bags of drugs, dog hare.
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Hey, he would leave them with Yeah, let me get
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a dime bag of dog hair and he would leave
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it with them and they would scatter it all around
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the crop. So just the scent was always there for
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the monkeys as well, that you know dogs are in
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the area. The monkeys are smart enough they've seen dogs.
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There's dog here, there's the smell of it, and it
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would become an area where they would avoid.
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Oh my gosh, this is awesome. I hope you're having
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a fun time. Are you doing all right here? John? Yeah?
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All these crazy questions from me, Yeah.
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It's I could talk dogs all day.
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So I'm having all right, now we're going to go
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to Italy. I've been to Italy. Big thing there is
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truffles set us up for Burba and Maya. Those are
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the dogs.
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Yeah, yes, so we went on a truffle hunt.
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Nice.
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I always thought of pigs as doing truffle hunting, did I?
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You know, a truffle pig was always the thought in
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my mind. And actually my in law is a couple
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of years ago went to Italy and went on a
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truffle hunt with dogs. So that's the kind of thing
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that I just tuck in the back of my mind
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if I'm ever in Italy in the area, I want
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to see truffle hunting dogs. And they found that the
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dogs just do a lot less destruction to the forest.
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What do pigs dow versus dogs with paws? That's the difference.
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I think they just really tear up the ground in
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the landscape where dogs are more they'll find the truffle
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and dig in that certain spot, and pigs are more
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likely to eat the truffle. Oh, it's harder to wrestle
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it away from them.
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So it is those are big pigs too.
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Yeah, it's an adrenaline rush when you see the dogs
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start digging, because if you just let them dig, the
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dogs gonna eat the truffle. They have a taste for them.
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They have a smell phone. So the guides we were with,
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as soon as they saw that the dogs were digging,
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it's like you got to run. And as soon as
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they'd see the truffle, a hand would go in and
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they'd grab it, and it was like a big celebration
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to find the truffle.
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Have you ever eating truffles before?
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Yeah, I had had truffles before. And then we the
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truffles we brought back, they shaved right off and we
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ate them, you know, a half hour after we found
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them in the forest. So it was awesome, a really
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really cool experience.
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What's Burba and maya like bourba' is a weird breed.
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I can't even say it's just Italian.
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It's I'm going to butcher it. But it's like Legato romanogo.
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I you did pretty good.
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Yeah, my surnames Fabiano and my Italian is not as
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strong as you might think, and they are classically trained
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for truffle hunting. That was the first I really had
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exposure to that breed and heard of it and knew
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of it, but it's a type of dog that has
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just been bred for that type of work for generation.
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It's a good sized dog too.
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Yeah, they were probably twenty five thirty pounds, and but
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they moved like jumping over trees and logs and in
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and out of holes and everywhere. Just you could tell
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how much fun they were having throughout the whole experience.
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And that's the thing I've seen with a lot of
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working dogs across the world, is the dogs are just
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living to the fullest. They're having so much fun throughout.
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That's what life should be, right.
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Yeah, exactly, It's not like they're you know, I think
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of people going to work. This is the dog's going
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to work. They're couldn't be more excited.
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Yeah. Now I want to get back to the States
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because years ago I lived in California and I had
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not one, but two members of the original So Cal
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surf Dogs. It was Chippering Cleo, but we called them
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chip Ahoy and c They were having fun with it
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and they love to ride the surfboards. But you went
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to Portland, Maine and tell everybody about Captain Eric and
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I guess his dog's name was Briggs. Is Briggs.
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What would they do? So we were going on a
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road trip er on the Northeast, Stephiola and I last year,
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and at this point I knew that I was working
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on this book, and I was like, what's a working
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dog that I can find during this road trip.
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And business expense?
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Yes, And I'd heard of lobster dogs in the past
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that like are fishing dogs more so? Okay, So I
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reached It's always like reaching out in a Facebook group
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or like something like that and just saying this is
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who I am, this is what I'm doing. Does anyone
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have a lead or know anybody? And Eric reached out.
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He said, I own my own lobster fishing company and
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my dog Briggs is always on the boat with me.
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And he's a guy who started a business by himself.
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It's called Eat Lobster.
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And Eat Come on slow down. Where does that spell?
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Yeah? And he'd showed me such a good day with
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him and Briggs on the boat, and he started the
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business by himself. He'd be out on the water all
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the time alone if it wasn't for Briggs. So it's
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really the companionship, camaraderie. If anything is to happen, He's
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got Brigs with him.
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What kind of dog is Briggs? Would you say?
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He's a black lab?
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Okay, okay, so he's a good sized dog that's right.
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Imperfect for the water. If he falls in, he can
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swim and just brings the enthusiasm, high energy. And you
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tell him to drive the boat, he jumps up next
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to the wheel. You say lobster. He puts his paws
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up on the side and looks out in the distance.
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Really yeah, so he had so.
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Much better than sit, stay, leave it right. Breaks is like, yeah, baby,
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give me some clever commands.
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Eric will send me a video just him saying lobster
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in the house and Briggs comes running through and from
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the other room like he just loves going on the boat.
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And it was really cool to watch someone just doing
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their everyday work and having a dog by the side
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throughout all of it.
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There's so many chapters to this book that you've created.
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This is really a work of art. Is there a
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special tale we haven't discussed that you would love to
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share with our resillions of listeners and doers.
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I would say the most important one to me is
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the hospital therapy dogs and witnessing the work that they do.
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I've had tears in my eyes behind the camera twice
517
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and both of them were instances being in hospitals and
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watching what these dogs do for people on some of
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the hardest journeys that they're going through in their lives.
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So just seeing what a dog laying in a bed
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with someone who's stuck in a hospital bed can do
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and bring them to tears. And someone breaking down who
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just passed a dog in the lobby and said can
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I stop and pet them? And this woman just started
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crying and said, thank you. This is the highlight of
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my day, Like I needed this so much. And the
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dogs aren't doing anything special other than just being dogs
528
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and the presents that they give and the mood change
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as soon as they walk in the room. A portion
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of sales from the book is going to a cancer
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institute Roswell and Buffalo in my hometown where my brother
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works as a doctor. And then the other one was
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Animas in Portugal and they do therapy dog work all
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up and down the country of Portugal. So it was
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that moving to me, and it was very important to
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me in publishing this book that I wanted to get
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back to dogs, and it was a no brainer that
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it was going to be hospital therapy dogs.
539
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.359
So saying that, I want to make sure that people
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00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:49.720
know how to follow John Bobiano and can you share
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Facebook Instagram? How do people keep tabs? And if they
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want to help the hospitals in Portugal or in the States,
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how do they get to do that?
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Yep, So I am on both Facebook and on Instagram.
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My profile is Wags around the World.
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Wags around the World.
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That's easy, yes, And I post regularly about both these
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organizations just because they're that important to me. I post
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Roswell Cancer institutes social media. ANI moster their social media
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and it's the type of like uplifting things that you
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go on social media to see, to see these dogs
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in action, to see the smiles they put on people's faces,
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especially the children, like no kid ever wants to be
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in a hospital and neither is a guest or a patient.
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And to see the kids as patients who are scheduling
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their visits on the days the dogs are coming because
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they know if I have to go to the hospital,
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I want to hang out with the dog in the process.
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And just it was really really special to see the
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positive impact they have.
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So we ask a lot of our guests, What would
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be a superpower that dogs have that you wish you had?
563
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.200
And why? What's something that dogs do that you and
564
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don't say, lift your leg really high?
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I think it's one that I try like, I look
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at them as role models for like enjoying every little
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day and every little thing. It's appreciation of the smallest
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things in life, which I think we get too busy
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and our brains get too cluttered that like, little instances
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can bring us so much joy if we stop and
571
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:18.160
taken appreciation for him every single time I come home, Viola,
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it celebrates me like I just won the super Bowl
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and then returning home to just appreciate the things that
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you love in your life that much. It's something that
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I look at dogs as role models in that respect.
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I love it. Hey, everybody, we've had John Fabiano on.
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He is the author of Working Dogs. You got to
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get his book and his heart does beat dog and
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you have been an amazing source of inspiration follow your dreams, folks.
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He just is living proof of that. I also, at
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this time want to do a shout out to my producer,
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Mark Winter. He is the executive producer of Pet Life Radio.
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We are the largest pet radio network on the planet.
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Hopefully we'll get to the moon and maybe try to
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brag on that one too, But please check out all
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the shows on pet Life Radio. You can follow me.
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I got a weird name, Arden Moore. Real name, real name,
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Go to YouTube, go to Facebook. My passion is helping
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save lives of pets, so I have now a cat
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out to my team KNA, Casey and NOVS six toasts.
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So until next time, this is your flea free host,
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Arden Moore saying just two words to all you two
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three and four lakers out there.
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