MTN PHYSIO PERFORMANCE PODCAST EP 20 | JEFF HELM WHEN PREPARATION MEETS OPPORTUNITY

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Mountain Physio Performance podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am your host, Dr. Ward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And today, got a super special guest, a good friend of mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one that I'd honestly consider probably part of the business because we have more business conversations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's very smart in a business sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though he doesn't have a financial stake or role in it, maybe he should.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I should start paying him for all his time,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went with a good friend, Jeff Helm, in the house, and I'm super excited to sit down and talk to him about his health, his performance in the mountains, and really what that means to become an athlete, and so super excited for this, but Jeff, as I always pretty much start every single one of these conversations with, it's what impresses me most about the guests that I have on, and over the last few years I've been able to meet and get to know Jeff quite well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe total archery Jones?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe tack there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But how it's gone is I'm impressed most that Jeff, again, I literally can call him up and he will answer the phone and he is in the middle of doing something and he'll answer the phone for me and say, hey, this is some of my advice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been a good friend of mine and just really encouraged me in this role of building Mountain Physio to help other hunters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's given me a lot of advice, made a lot of connections.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm very impressed with Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a very good friend of mine, and that consider a good friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Jeff, with that said, thank you very much for joining.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you give a little background about yourself, and then we'll dive into it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm a sales manager for Peak's Equipment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done a lot of different things in the industry over the years with total archery challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: have immersed me around people, such as yourself and others in the industry, met a lot of people over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, as a general rule, I'm nice to everyone, but the ones that I see are really genuine, I try and make sure that I keep that connection and that you're definitely one of those people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're very sincere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just a good human and so because of that I do make time for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do have a busy schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not home a lot these days, you know, peaks is in the prime of building a dynasty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're blowing and going and doing a lot of different things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Life is busy, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Success never goes on sale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You always have to pay full price and so I'm just trying to push things forward And obviously I want to see you win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a passionate elk hunter grew up in the Midwest I'm originally Michigan and Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of where I grew up and live in Texas for the last 20 years and Love being a part of you know chasing elk in the mountains and deer and whatever else and because of that I've met a lot of great people over the years
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, peaks is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've personally met Bryce a lot and such a great guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you guys have something really awesome going for you guys at peaks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great guy, but everyone I've met there at peaks is just a stellar crew, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we have a lot of great people and, and Bryce is the reason that I join Peaks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I ain't get along on so many different levels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not just the captain of our ship, but he's a good friend, and whenever you're building the business with people that you care about, and you're just going to be more effective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll work harder, you'll push, and...
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[SPEAKER_00]: our whole team is just full of high achievers and people with high integrity and so we have because of that we have great products and we're very we are very careful at building a premium brand and everyone of our products is something that basically addresses an issue with that product whether it be a TB or trekking poles or headlamp or gators like our stove like their specific things that
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's not hard to do when you're passionate about what you love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, so if you guys have a you guys have a passion team and I have always said that in business as well as it's you don't need to make you don't need to build something new you don't need to innovate and make this and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you might have the history of that, but it's been around for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you need to make it better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where I consider, like, I would consider us and our business as well as peaks, like really kind of like leading that edge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the industry of like you're making things better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it could be from the peaks T.P.
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[SPEAKER_01]: up the tent itself, where I think you went now to a dinema, which is now your cutting weight, lighter, and it just performs better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can maybe I get a, well, myself into with you guys as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this is a performance podcast, but what we're trying to do right is help and make the fitness and health realm better for for the industry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are, I think it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which you guys are doing though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys got a great evening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You bet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, passionate elk hunter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've been in elk hunter, you're for a long time now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, you're Jeff, you had an awesome experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, I don't know how much you can get into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can get into some of the last year's experience, yeah, I want to hear about a little bit of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so last year I was fortunate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had three out tags in my pocket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's always the first goal is to have an old tag in your pocket when you're a non-resident.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Texas does have free range elk, but they're very difficult to get on because it's all tied up by private landowners and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I find myself trying to get non-resident tags in most of the mountain states.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was once again 15 years running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got denied by New Mexico a couple days ago again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, again, but that's all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to keep pushing, but I was fortunate enough to have an Idaho in Oregon and Montana tag last year, and the Idaho was really special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cory Jacobson for a while for those of you that don't know, he's part of elk 101, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a show on YouTube called Destination Elk, and after years of knowing him probably a decade of shooting with him at Taxon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Different things, we became pretty good friends, and then he came down in Honored Access with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a couple years ago had a great time, really enjoyed being in camp together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after that, he invited me to be on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for destination elk and had a really cool idea thinking outside the box.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had this idea that he would put together four teams of two and we would all hunt the same unit in Idaho and we would chase elk for eight days with no food and kind of a crazy idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when he called me about it and I was like, man, I'm gonna have to think about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a family to get back to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love food.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely when talking about all this, it really boils down to diet exercise and discipline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you're talking about that, I've been a little Debbie fan for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because of me, brownies have a close friendship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially on the mountains, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This house has no little Debbie's in it right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But on the mountain, I make that happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach always for a for 30 days out of the year to eat some of the babies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when he asked me that, I was like, man, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I got off the phone and told my wife and she's like, Oh, you're doing this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's like, I've won you on naked in a freight or alone for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she's like, this is probably the closest I'm going to get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when your wife and your best friend just says, you know, this is a good fit for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, all right, if I'm, I'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so all the planning goes into place and, you know, different things and we showed up and we weighed in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got to say that it made an impression on me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, weighing in, I was the fattest guy there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, huh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: crap, you know, I had everyone else by 20 plus pounds and I was like, man, that's not good, you know, and I didn't say much about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I made a joke about it, you know, and stuff, but at the end of the day, it has definitely changed the last six months kind of resonated with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It did, so in the end, we did eight days and
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were given one peak refuel meal that we could eat at any given time whenever we sewed two chose and we were given one mountain ops protein mark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's all we had to go on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of that, we had to kill an elk, shoot small game, catch fish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, stuff like that and really, you know, hats off to Cory for thinking outside the box, doing something different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He caught a lot of criticism, some good, some bad, as in anything, but it really turned into a survival show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you as Team Prime, we spent far more time looking for water and far more time looking for small game than I ever have on an eight day L-Cut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is always like, don't even wrong upshot your house before on L-Cut and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was never, we weren't chasing grass, like Randy Newberg sometimes does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we focused on finding, you know, when we saw a rabbit or we saw a squirrel or whatever, I mean, everything changed and it was like getting my belly, like let's find a way to get this thing ill. And so we ended up shooting like eight rabbits and I think we caught like 10 brook trout throughout the whole week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what was really unique?
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[SPEAKER_00]: is watching how you're mind and your body handled the caloric deficiency, and to see how it affected your mental state, staying positive, I am a pretty positive guy all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I started my own business, had it for eight years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have done a lot of different things in the business realm, and I'm usually, I'm a go-getter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm always positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always see the glass have full, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a realist, I understand the reality is sometimes it sucks, but I can always find the positives and push goals and that didn't change on this eight-day hunt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was definitely positive, sometimes it was a struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really didn't want to sit in front of the cameras and just talk about what was me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there was a few times that we went down some rabbit holes and I may have talked about Taco Bell and the cheesy fiesta potatoes and, you know, something about day five or six, I mean, you're just craving, and I just wanted an ice cold mountain do and you know, a Taco Bell burrito supreme, you know, all these different things that I grew up loving and I had never had such a strong desire for fast food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, as I did, I don't eat a lot of fast food these days, um, but on that trip, it was definitely a struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, there was definitely, like, I ended up, unfortunately, I ended up wounding a bull, like, day four or five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, I, a lot of it, I can attribute to the physical side of things, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: this bull came in and he was 45 yards frontal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I met full draw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the range.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He killed a lot of bulls frontal, but I also knew 45 yards was too long for a frontal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't shoot a frontal less.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in 29 and 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to sub 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically is what I look at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like sub 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's not do ramped up, like I can get it in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I shoot a pretty fast set up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm at full draw and waiting for this bull to turn and because, you know, he comes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't see the cows he's looking for and I just know he's going to turn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, you gotta be ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta act fast and I just get into that shot and I just put a little too much tension on and all of a sudden the bow went off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And playing that back in my head over and over and over and sure enough, at that shot, he turned and as he turned, I caught him square in the shoulder and there when our dinner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I didn't get any penetration and the first thing I thought of was, I just let Jody down my partner, you know, he,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to eat out tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then I'd look back and during that moment I was actually Physically shaking and I mean, I've killed 20 some bowls with my bow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm usually pretty good in the red zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't wounded a bowl in quite a while and um
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, what it takes to not be mentally and physically ready in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I definitely, you know, it got the best of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but pushing forward to the end of the hunt, you know, we ended up having to change areas and we're in into people and in the last few days we got back in the elk and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, just watching my team, you know, boating and then Casey or camera guy and watching how no food and sometimes very little water affected us the last morning we actually had a herd of elk that we found in a pretty good bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just didn't have anything left in the tank to go out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we were going to have to drop down, go up, then chase them, and then get back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had a timeline to be back to camp, to check in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the first time, one of the first times, and only time I can remember, we didn't chase those elk because we didn't have it in the tank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was super proud of our team for making it until the end, staying positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't tap out, and we didn't tap out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did not give up, and we stayed all the way till the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the other teams tapped out and even Donnie had to tap out because of the physical side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He with the lack of food and different things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had going on with getting his gallbladder out and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was vomiting and just in a very bad spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeez.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was proud that our team made it all the way till the end and we're super positive, and so it was definitely an experience that I won't forget.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thankful for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't ever want to do it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it definitely showed that I had some work to do since that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up losing 17 pounds and I'm proud to say that I am thinner today than I was at the end of that show and I've taken that motivation and cut a lot of the sugars out of my diet most of the carbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still do a cheat day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: every now and then when we're out with fam and everybody wants to go out for pizza or tacos or something but for the most part I've cut and most of the carbs out and I'm pretty much at this point eating a carnivore and dairy diet for the last part and main thing was cutting out all the sugars because I am a sweet sky yeah and so I'm down like 32 pounds from for where it was before elk season last year
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good for you Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome to hear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, proud that you're down that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's especially coming out of winter time as well because everyone gets a little bit softer during the winter time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just helped me not to grab that extra piece of pie at Christmas or, you know, and I'm don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had some sweets, but I just, I've got this opinion now that if I'm going to cheat, if I'm going to have something bad, it's going to be incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do it for a six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to do it for a dried out cookie from Walmart, you know, to make it like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if somebody has a birthday party or whatever, and somebody made an amazing cheesecake, and it's awesome, and it's special, then make it special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not going to be part of my daily routine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's made a huge difference, because it's manageable, because it does come down to diet exercise and discipline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, what does a whole different?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I always say it's a simple equation, really weight loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you got to be in a deficit, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think that next part of it, I do like that discipline aspect of it because you have to be disciplined, but I'm with you 100% I've always told my patients that it's like, I don't even care like if you, you don't have to suffer through weight loss, like you can enjoy your meals, you can have, you know, focus on protein, yeah fewer carbs,
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[SPEAKER_01]: but you don't have to suffer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's certainly days of the week that you can be like, I can go out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's when you start doing that day after day or you're at the gas station, getting gas station food for four or five, six days straight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe you're like, yep, I'm going to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: get an extra cookie here and it's just not worthwhile cookie like I'm with you a hundred percent like sometimes if I eat something a cookie or something like cash that's just not even just throw it away because I'm like it's not worth the calories and I think that's that discipline aspect of it if you're if you're thinking about weight loss if that's one of your goals then you've got to be discipline that much that you're like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to have this cookie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, throw it out worth the calories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just wait till I can have something better and there's nothing wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that is well as just being mindful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think weight loss has a lot to do with just the mental cognitive being cognizant of again calories in and and I think as well to your point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a matter of lately as I've been kind of going down this journey of God, a little softer during the winter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had too much of that, you know, pieces of pie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Easy to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to do, but at the end of the day when you're starting to cut, which I'm in this kind of phase of starting to cut and really kind of lean up for hunting season, comes down to recognizing
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you're full also because so many times like so I've been playing around with that and I encourage everyone I on that's listening to this podcast of like take a few days to make a meal that's 300 calories Take a few days to make a meal that's 200 calories take a few days to make a meal that's you know 500
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can guarantee that you're going to be full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to fill content around that anywhere from like 250 to 400 calorie range.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do that a couple times a day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're probably going to be completely content.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Versus, oftentimes when you go out to eat, you're eating these 1600 calorie meals, or just big meals in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's what United States, I guess is great for is that you can go to wherever, you know, Texas Roadhouse and you can have meals for multiple days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love those roles, you know, love those roles, yeah, but at the end of the day, it's like you're probably content with one role and a little salad and a steak or something like it really, but when you get this plate that's so large that you're like, well, I'm just going to keep eating it and it's fun and it's a social aspect of it for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know, I always encourage people to do that to like be cognizant, but recognize when you're when you're content and it's usually not that as many calories as people think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's I learned a lot of that on that eight day, you know, I realized I'm strong like I'm really strong I don't need this and that combined with I have a real life Petri dish going on right now with my mom my mom is 69 should be 70 in June She has um, she's blown into full blown type one diabetes
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she refuses to exercise, and I'm watching her, you know, fall off the cliff and it doesn't matter what we say, I can't get her to walk, I can't get her to do things and I love her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a sweet lady, she's beat cancer twice and she had a brain stem stroke due to
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[SPEAKER_00]: orthotry cycline back when she was in her 40s she used to be on it to regulate hormones and stuff and she had a brain stem stroke almost killed her and she rebounded from that and I joker around that she's got nine lives and she's on like life eight and a half right now and so that motivates me as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be in good shape when I'm in my 70s and, you know, I've told myself for 10 years, you know, one of the goals is to be able to kill an elk with my bow and my 70s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just one of those personal things that I hang on to and it keeps me from doing dumb stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It keeps me from doing things that could potentially be an injury that would keep me out of a season or not let me do the
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[SPEAKER_00]: same thing with that, you know, if I'm going to do something that abuses my body, is it a ten?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, is it something that I really want to do, or should I be careful?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm playing softball, am I going to slide into home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it really worth it at 47 years old?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it worth the injury and is it worth missing elk season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, it's not, you know, I've decided it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I won't, I'm going to be careful with my body, you know, and I'm going to play those pickup games with the 19-year-olds just to show that I can still, you know, not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I come down on the wrong ankle or whatever, and all of a sudden, I'm out for two months, you know, and so I'm very careful, now a day, and like I said, my mom's on my mind a lot, I love her dearly, and to know and not to do is not to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that's what it comes down to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you have to push your point yourself to the point that you're like, hey, this is a personal game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm knocked out of elk season, or if I'm not fit, it doesn't hurt Preston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It hurts me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is a battle every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to get up every day and say, today's the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do what it takes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do those, you know, even if you're in a hotel room lately, I'm traveling a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do that, that workout in the hotel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, you know, when I go to the gas station, I'm going to grab, you know, a protein drink instead of, you know, a little dabbing, you know, or whatever it might be that I want when you go through and, and there's so many things to choose from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to pick up those peach rings or,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it might be, you know, I'm gonna instead choose to grab a stick of cheese and, you know, grab a protein drink and, you know, grab something that is a lot better for me and has a lot less calories in it and a lot less sugar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's super hard when you're on the road, but you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm coming off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, basically the last, well, since cheap show in January, I haven't been home a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been on the road setting up things for peaks and doing different
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's hard when you're driving 10, 11 hours, and you're like, man, I just want some hot tamales and a mountain dude that get me through or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did that for years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you definitely have to make a decision and then manage that decision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think you're 100% correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the discipline that people need to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you need to instill that discipline in yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't have to be, they don't have to be really
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[SPEAKER_01]: hard workouts to get fit and ready for hunting season like you don't need to go out and you know kill yourself for in this workout to be ready for hunting season but you do have to be disciplined and it does take that you know after a long day of work to get home and you're like okay what's my end goal my end goal is I want to be ready for hunting season maybe I drew a tag maybe I didn't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm just going to go and I want to be with my boys, or maybe I want to make sure that I can go up to that high, you know, high alpine lake on that fishing trip with my grandkids and take them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's going to get me there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the discipline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I got to get home and I'm going to do some exercises so that I can be more so that I can be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can be 1% better every single day, you know, so I can be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and better prepared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go play that pickup game where I'm going to get injured, maybe not, or maybe all, you know, do something different, or maybe, you know, anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a thing that discipline is such such an integral part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever see that commercial?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a commercial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even remember what it was for, but it was a guy that was obviously in his mid-delate 70s, maybe even 80.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it shows him and it kind of flashes through these different things and it shows him working up with a kettlebell basically he's by himself and nobody's around and he's he's working and you just see him making progress with this kettlebell and you're like, what are they trying to show me here and and then all the sudden it flashes forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his granddaughter, who's three, has the star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she wants to put it on the tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He picks her up and puts her there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, I find myself like, whoa, whoa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa, like he had a goal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like his goal, he wanted to be able to lift his granddaughter to put that star on and his daughter starts to cry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that is what I want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he had the discipline when nobody was watching to work and work and work so that he could pick up his granddaughter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she could put the star on the tree and I'm like, that, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That does actually be tears to my eyes too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, I can't grab maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something like, I want to be that guy, you know, I want to be that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's I think a hundred percent behind like the motivation of what we do here at Mountain Physio is we want to help people, but I don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that it's unreasonable to have someone wanting like yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to be hunting elk at 70 and 80 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's completely doable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, are we aligning your the discipline and what you're doing towards that goal?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if not, if things are not, if little debbies are not, or
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[SPEAKER_01]: gas station food, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've obviously started to align yourself even more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to have sometimes those moments or those individuals that motivate you that say, hey, help me, you know, I want to be more like this individual or I want to get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you've lost this weight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're rethinking your diet as you're traveling, like it's such a, yeah, you're obviously on that journey to get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think more as we talk about obviously
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[SPEAKER_01]: But more than that, it's really staying healthy for those grand babies, those grandkids, those to help hopefully one day, you'll be able to be elk hunting and have your grandkids next to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be able to be sharing these experiences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember this one time I went on this crazy elk hunt with Cory and the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: prime the prime team right and man we didn't have food and I wounded this you know I missed I hit this ball wounded them and you tell you're telling this experience with your grand kid right there Like think about that that's gonna be such an amazing experience But if you don't take care of your health if you don't take care of your fitness nutrition mental side of things like You just won't it's unrealistic to expect that really right no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's important and it's hard I think as men
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[SPEAKER_00]: We struggle a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've ever read while that heart John Eldridge wrote a book long time ago and and in there he talks about how when you really focused down and what it did for me as it provided a roadmap that helped me to understand my thought processes what I was doing in there he talks about that every man from the time there a little boy has a battle the fight a beauty to rescue in an adventure to live and each one of those on its own is not enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If all you do is want to rescue this beauty, you're worthless, because you don't have a battle to fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have an adventure to live, and we need all of those components in order to be fulfilled on so many levels, and obviously there's faith involved in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, different things I know that you're a believer and and so at the end of the day, what that book helped me do because for years at different times I struggled with how much time and effort was I putting in the hunting versus other things or whatever and what I realized after reading that book and then losing my brother at 35 when I was 37 to cancer and I watched different things happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It provided clarity to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what that clarity was is that I am not a workout junkie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could care less.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I struggle with posting stuff online about working out and so on and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also understand it more because you have to stay motivated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so some of those guys that are gals that post stuff online about working out, like it's a battle to stay motivated to work out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because you're struggling against the machine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I realized for me, elk hunting is where I provide clarity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, by having this goal of being in the mountains comes September and October, it allows me to focus on that goal to do the hard things in the off season, in the preseason, in the postseason, and all those things, and not just fall off the map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it also provides me an adventure to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I'm out there, there's just something about putting that backpack on, buckling in, and I clamp up, and I reach down and I grab my bow, and I say, you know, if it's meant to be, it's up to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you're heading out there and knowing that you're physically and mentally fit, you know, hunting the mountains is a mental challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you've been strong enough to manage those mental battles,
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[SPEAKER_00]: 365 days a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the moment of truth comes, you know, I tell people all the time, I'd rather be lucky than good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a true statement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when preparation meets opportunity, they're success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're success.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly where I try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've, for years, have done a lot of, I've never gone on a paid elk hunt or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always had to kind of do it on my own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's still an expensive adventure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, especially the way elk tags are going and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always count on, I'm going to, if I'm consistent to do the work, I'm going to have one or two chances of to kill a bull, one or two chances to kill a bull or an animal or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm ready, mentally and physically, when that opportunity arrives, I will be able to harvest that animal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be able to eat that meat all here, you know, all those different things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so all of that combined has created kind of a lens that I look at life through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it allows me to do the hard things when nobody is watching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, that statement right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the hard things when nobody is watching is so critical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's exactly what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that old man that's lifting that kettle bell up right in the summer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the heat of the summer, he's doing it because he knows in six, seven months that Christmas trees go in up and he's going to be lifting his daughter up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, his granddaughter up, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the same thing preparing ourselves now for what's in store and it's and I think it's I think to your point It's very much the quality of life the type of life as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like last night We were eating less than we had eight elk weed a lot of elk in our family feel very fortunate to eat a lot of elk wild game access dear by the way Fantastic
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[SPEAKER_01]: But eat a lot of elk unless we're eating some steaks and we're kind of on this nuts it's kind of diet I guess I say same same thing where it's more steak and really some vegetables is pretty much it and so we're eating some elk steak and my wife's like gosh this is just such a good elk and it was one of the bowls that we killed this year and I just have like that's the lifestyle to be able to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sit down with my family, enjoy this amazing meal that's lean, healthy, but also then to be like again, disciplined, focused on Kate tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wake up and I'm going to exercise because I know where it's going to lead me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to lead me to next year, hopefully, whether it's being lucky or not, it's just putting in the time and the work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've always said, I think,
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[SPEAKER_01]: success in the field 100% relies or is the dependent on just the time in the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, without cunning, it's just repetitions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to your point, this is where I was bringing this up is we might train all year long for one opportunity, one bold to come in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you aren't prepared, then you might miss that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or can you increase your chances or your odds if you're fit healthy and you can push yourself and you can get to those positions where maybe you instead of having one opportunity, you have two or three or four bowls come into you in the course of six, seven, eight days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The more opportunities you have, the better your odds of being successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And investing in your health, having your health a priority, I think is 100% we see people have more of
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[SPEAKER_01]: those opportunities to live that lifestyle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely, that story I shared with you earlier was one of those situations, you know, I was in Colorado, I was in an OTC unit, and I was hunting with a buddy, and I really hadn't done the work that year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was probably 15 years ago, and we had dropped 1800 or so elevation feet, and we were in bowls, and it was great, and then the morning kind of subsided, and I was
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[SPEAKER_00]: things to stir back up and he decides he's going to drop down another 1,000 to 1,200 feet to this little area and I didn't go with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I stayed there because I didn't think I had enough gas in the tank to go all the way down there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Potentially killable and then haul it whatever close to 3,000 vertical feet up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back to the truck, and so I chose to sit there for hours and wait for the elk that were around us because we had elk within 4,500 yards where we were sitting and I thought they were going to fire back up and I was going to get an opportunity and it turned out he dropped down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get a text, pulled down, pulled down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had multiple bulls come into him and he had told me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, when we're in here like I live here like I'm your first shooter like I want you to kill a bull with me and and I knew that that was my opportunity squandered and I remember that night as we were cutting that bull up and funny story of bear ended up stealing one of those quarters We had run it off with rocks because we had already hauled up most of the elk off and left our bows So we didn't have anything rock so we chased off his bear with rocks again because the bag that that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bear took had the ivories in it and we're like we're not leaving the ivories and a quarter and so we ended up getting it back But I remember that whole night just thinking suck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell, like don't ever be here again Yeah, like you were such a was like you just didn't do the work and because of it It showed when the moment a truth hit and you know I don't know that was probably 15 years ago plus and and I have I still carry that picture on my phone in my favorites
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I look at that picture that night and I'm like never again and by God's grace I have never put myself in that spot again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always been ready when elx season comes and and I know a lot of people, especially people that live in Utah and Montana and Idaho, some of them don't do the work and they get what they call season ready, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And your body is an amazing machine like
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[SPEAKER_00]: two weeks of elk hunting or deer hunting, you're ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It responds very quickly, but why don't you do that before season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So your season ready, and maybe that first day is a little tough, you know, I have to usually I live a, you know, 1500 to 2000 feet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's definitely some, you know, just think it's an elevation, but I even have an elevation mask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of times, you know, those last few weeks, I'm using that elevation mask to help get ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I look like something off of a Batman movie or something, but I don't care what when they ever think exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those are the things, those are defining moments where you say, not on my watch, not on my watch, never again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not gonna be the weak link.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's where Mountain Vizio comes in is that you can be a part of a program like Mountain Vizio and you can keep those injuries from happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can be ready because it's not, you know, what I see about your program versus others that are out there is this is not a CrossFit program.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a, nothing wrong with those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If that's your deal, great, I personally witness a lot of injuries with Crossfitters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just so intense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nothing wrong with it, you know, if that's what you do, there's crossfitters in my opinion, some of the most fit people I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what Mountain Fizio is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mountain Fizio is for the guys that are just want to be healthy and good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe they've got to reoccurring shoulder injury or elbow or knee or, you know, I know Bryce, we talked about Bryce last time at
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pickle ball above and same thing wants to play pickle ball, but he ends up with a lot of issues because of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and that's something that you can work on and help and people don't have to experience that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to be in good health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want diabetes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want those issues that a lot of people face as they get into their upper 40s and 50s and 60s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all those bad habits start to really show themselves as you get older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think a hundred percent that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's what it is is and I appreciate that very much because I think that's the role that we want to take here is really that upper edge, that leading edge of yes it's for hunting season yes it's for all these things but at the end of the day like with the knowledge that we have the skill set it's really to prevent injury so a lot of pre-hab stuff I think a lot of times the people think of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mountain Physio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, once I'm injured, but a lot of prevention like jump on a, you know, jump in one of our, our season packs are preseason training postseason, those sorts of things to really manage injuries or prevent injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should say, and then manage them and really kind of having that skill set to be able to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not just a matter of just like, you know, doing some bicep curls, doing any of these programs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's really kind of managing that and that's where I think it's really fun to see is especially when we start talking about diabetes, when we start talking about heart disease, when we start talking about managing, you know, tendonitis, tendonopathy's when we talk about your cholesterol and really start talking about it from a full like whole body perspective and picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm most interested in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a lot of, you know, individuals,
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[SPEAKER_01]: one of them who died at a very young age from a heart attack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for me, it's about that prevention of helping individuals stay healthy and general from a mind, from a body, not just putting on a lot of muscle strength just to look good and definitely not just for elk hunting or hunting in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for it's for life, it's for living a healthy life and a lifestyle for that longevity piece.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So hey,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love those, I was, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I'm, I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I, I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love those stories that you, that you tell, because I think, I think, as well, like, having that strong mind, like if you can put in the work, then you're going to have that strong mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what's going to keep you going as well in the back country, really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've spent many a final day of season, you know, I've killed multiple bulls on the final day of season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, after, you know, growing it out for 14 days and partners going home, because they had to, you know, they gave up or maybe the weather wasn't right or.
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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just, you know, if it's meant to be, it's up to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have to go out and do the work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to put myself in situations where I'm in close proximity to elk and especially those last few days of season, those elk have figured out where they're safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in hard to reach places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in hell holes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're in, they are in a little tucked away pockets that people haven't done because there's too much dead fall or new name it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like animals are smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They figure out where they're safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and in order to get to those places, you have to be in good shape and willing to sacrifice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think about this upcoming year, I'll have an elk tag and last year we chase some bulls into some areas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think what they did is they felt the pressure and they started going to those, you know, they feel that pressure and then they're like, well, we're going to go over here where we feel safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm kind of excited this next year to kind of get back up into those into those spots and use that to my advantage there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, is at the next boat is really interesting because I think having this discussion people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: people know they need to be healthy, but it's that it's that maybe that little bit of guidance like, well, what does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What should I be doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What exercises?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What should I be eating?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what guidance do I need?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where again, at here at Mountain Physio, that's what we do is really kind of guide you through that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing though,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe we've, you know, maybe we've already addressed this, but it's that discipline at the Han expo, it was extremely interesting this year talking to people about, you know, what do you basically they carry around Montana knives beautiful knives they'd carry around brand new hopefully everyone was carrying around a peeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tent and stuff that they picked up and got into doing the cyber truck, hopefully everyone is doing stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there was a ton of that, people were just purchasing packages after packages, beautiful things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as they'd come over to us and I'd be like, hey, we got this offer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going on, you know, that we're working with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got our cool app.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, yeah, yeah, you know, I'll think about it later, sort of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, what are you guys doing, you know, you know, you can have buy all the shiny new gear and this expensive equipment hunts everything else like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they would almost fill in the blank.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know if I don't have my health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't be able to make it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like exactly, so what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think people know it's just that discipline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's so much more rewarding to go purchase a hat or to purchase anything than it is to put in the work to do that exercise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately it's just hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't see the results as quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easier to purchase something and have it directly come out of my account and get aware of hat than it is to go spend
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[SPEAKER_01]: 12 weeks or whatever that is or a year to be ready for Elk season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in my realm and I think everyone probably listening as we kind of talked about this pre podcast is it's got to be one of the number one most important aspects of life really if you want to continue to do these things and you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: Age well really honestly it's your health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh definitely and it's I feel like it's the easy button right it's easy to buy a new bow It's easy to buy good gear and and good gear is important because it's the only date you have to feel comfortable up there But it's amazing
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from my perspective, the best hunters that I know are very mentally strong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are not weak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They push through hard things and they're out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can hit the easy button and by the gear, you can,
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[SPEAKER_00]: by the tags and the last portion is to be mentally and physically ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the hard part because that takes time and time is our most valuable asset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we're not careful, I was having a conversation with my son last night as we were driving home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you've heard me say a million times, breathe in and breathe out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I mean by that is in life going back to wild at heart is a lot of us as men,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We breathe in because we have to breathe in and we have to go to work and we have to earn a living for our families and we have to do all these things and sometimes that is our battle to fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in order to really be fulfilled, we have to breathe out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to also love our wives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: have our, you know, our family, I'm going to put my family in that, like I have to be the dad that I need to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to be the grandfather I need to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm standing in the gap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm providing some wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they don't always listen, but I am there to provide wisdom, but I also have to have this adventure to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the breathing out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is where a lot of times it's hard to balance those things and the breathing and breathe out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not enough to
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[SPEAKER_00]: you've also when you get home you got to not be spent so that you can love on your wife and you can listen to her and the things that she went through it and you have to go shoot your bow or work out or you know do all these things because you know once you lose that health you're done and it's just it's just over now the sudden there's now you've got the reason why YouTube and everything is so big is people live off other people's attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gives you a dopamine hit enough that you can scroll Instagram or Facebook and you can see how everybody else is living.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to live those adventures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, you know my personal Instagram account It's not about other companies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not about likes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's I post stuff on there that I will I'm interested in you know I post things that mean something to me and a lot of it these days is memories
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was fortunate enough to draw a tag in Utah six years ago killed a great bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those men, I live off those memories, although they're fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when it's all said and done, you're not going to say, I wish I would have worked a few more overtime shifts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I would have made a little bit more money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about that quality of life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in order to have quality of life, you need to put yourself in enough of a mental state that you can think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can turn the world out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My walks, you know, I'm fortunate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I live kind of on my dead end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I can do a loop here at my house and it's a couple miles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And during that time, I try not to look at my phone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I try not to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally think about,
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[SPEAKER_00]: what's important in life?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's important when it comes to my job and my family and my wife, and what's important to the adventures that I want to live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What am I doing over the next six months to a year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these trips have to be planned out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing a moose hunt next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, with a good friend and, you know, all these things I'm killing, I've got a Kate Buffalo hunt in a couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Africa with Jason Matinger, like, you know, Jason's got some, some things that he, he's got some unfinished business with a Kate Buffalo he wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My brother that I lost to cancer, you know, he always wanted to kill a Kate Buffalo, he never did, so I'm going to kill one for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the things that, that's the long-term goals, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have these five to 10-year goals, and in there, there should be a fitness portion, there should be a, you know, and maybe it's not a weight as much as a healthy, like I don't want diabetes as we talked about before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be good to my knees and my hip flexors, and, you know, all these things that, you know, you got to be careful, you know, I just, it's, it's invaluable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, guys, that, well, let's see, yeah, Jeff, that's that's perfect honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what I was going to say is that breeding out, that's where I was going to say is I like that book that you're saying, I'm going to go read it because I always tell everyone that you need to, everyone I think needs to have that that outlet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it might be just a simple walk around the park, or you know, walking on the block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But every day, I think someone needs to
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone needs to do stuff for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be shooting your bow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be going on a walk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You certainly need to have that aspect for your relationship with your spouse as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Going on a walk with your spouse is so good to kind of talk about these goals and stuff in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But being able to mentally just decompress right, whether everyone, you know, a lot of times spouses are working, everyone's working nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's expensive to live, but everyone's just trying to, but you've got to decompress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so whether it's shooting your bow, whether it's going for a walk, whatever that is, it's so important to really get on top of your mental game that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I always encourage with every single one of my patients like I don't it doesn't really matter, you know, we see clients that are young who are very active hunters to people who aren't even hunters at all, but I'm like you've got to have something and that exercise piece of it certainly is something that you're doing for yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, I don't think it's selfish at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's actually probably selfless to invest in yourself and do something for yourself so that you can be there for other people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, I mean, you always have, what's I don't know, there's probably a saying that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, if you aren't healthy and strong, then you can't help other people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what a lot of life is about as helping other people and being there for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's Gary from a Brett thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not clear about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy out of Montana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly what you just said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a, um, it took him a few years to get it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he did a film in conjunction with Matthews when they launched their new bow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know exactly who you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of that, there is a clip that I have probably played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't he the one that was in times?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't I'm sorry, isn't he the one that did the, um, for the, the fair blighter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know exactly about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of that, he has this clip that he is basically talking to his son.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in that, he goes, you can't pour from an empty cup, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've played that last clip a dozen times because it's so true, you know, you can't pour from an empty cup and so you have to take time for yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to build your foundation because if you aren't healthy, how are you going to help others?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your family, your neighbors, you know, your kids, things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So so good, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff, what an awesome conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much for for joining me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, you're a good friend and I really think the world of you and your family and just think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: love every time that we get to interact, that we get to jump on these conversations, all the different events, always look forward to seeing you texting you because, like I said, you've been definitely very influential in my life in building Mountain Physio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here at Mountain Physio, we are really trying to lead the industry, the outdoor industry, whether you're a hiker, backpacker, whether you're this avid outdoorsman and hunter, like most of us here,
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[SPEAKER_01]: really to lead that to be able to offer those one-on-one evaluation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you do have knee pain back pain anything like that, please reach out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no sense in going through life in all this with all this pain because there's things that can be done to manage it or maybe you need some of this guidance on the nutrition side of things or weight loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a team to help you or maybe you need the
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[SPEAKER_01]: So check that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all at MountainFizio.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a lot of different offers there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a really exciting new offer for this next year that's going to be really, I think, game-changing for people to give them the opportunity to work with multiple practitioners, clinicians on our team, and to really guarantee success and guarantee results.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jeff, thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys check out Peaks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is the website?
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[SPEAKER_01]: peaksacquipment.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Check it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got some awesome stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, later this year, we're heading up there and we're going to do some fun stuff with them as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really excited for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excited for, you know, Bryce, he's been a, a good friend as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I appreciate this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, check out mountainphysiot.com for everything that we have going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as always, I believe that everyone has the ability to truly become that athlete to really reach peak performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, it comes down to investing in your health as well as that discipline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that this conversation today with Jeff really,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is the cherry on top to what you need to be doing to really get that peak potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So with that said, check out mountainphysio.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we can help you in any way, we're here for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff, thank you very much for a fun conversation, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy it.