9-23-25 - Mo Egger with Paul Dehner

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You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
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All right, what's up. It's five minutes after three o'clock.
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This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Ballwager. Thank you so
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much for joining us. We're broadcasting today from Oakley Greens.
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What a day to be at Oakley Greens. It is
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gorgeous out and a lot going on Oakley Greens, all
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the sports, all the time. If you're headed to the
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ballpark tonight, you can have a cold one here at
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Oakley Greens before you head downtown. If you're not gonna
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pack gabp but you want to be out to watch
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the game, certainly could do that here at Oakley Greens.
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TV situation is awesome.
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And if it does rain, and obviously we got rain
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yesterday for the first time in what felt like four months.
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We're undercover. We're outdoors, but we're undercover.
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They've got an inside bar, they've got the mini golf,
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they've got corn hole.
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You can rent a cabana. Obviously.
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In six days, the Bengals are in Denver for Monday
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night football. You can have your watch party here or
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for any Reds playoff baseball watch parties you may have.
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I'm here at Oakley. Green's Paul Danner Junior's here. Hello,
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what's going on? Oh not a lot? No, no, not
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in your world. Hey, you know what, it's great. It's great.
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Now everybody can go back to talking about the Reds again,
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which is it's night. The Reds were like perfect timing
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and opportunity to re enter the conversation.
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So here's where I am with that, right, I'm thrilled
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that we're talking about the Reds. The last week of
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the season, the first Bengals game in Cleveland, the Reds
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played at the exact same time the Bengals beat the Browns,
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Hunter Green stuck into the New York Mets to cut
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the lead to four. I tweeted something about that and
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was told, read the room. Yeah, nobody cares, it's over.
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What are you doing? Fourteen days later, I tweeted something
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about the Bengals game. Mo, read the room, it's over.
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Move on. The Reds had the city's attention.
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Yes, okay, I'm here to go wherever the attention is.
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They're earning it. I mean they earn it. Both sides
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have earned it at this point. Certainly the Bengals earned
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it yesterday. But you know, it's stunning both it's kind
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of in both ways. And you know, I went up
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to Minnesota and thought that it's gonna be a tough environment,
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like you know, Brian Flores, just there's a lot of
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questions about how the offense would be able to handle that.
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You don't turn it over five times and you should
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probably be okay, Like I did not anticipate. I don't
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think that there was any anticipation of that. But that's
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what it looks like.
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Mo.
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Yeah, when you turn the ball over five times, that's
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what it looks like. When you just when you lay
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it on the ground three times in four snaps.
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That's what it looks like.
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It looks like worst lost by margin in franchise history, right,
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that is that is what happens. I went through all
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the exact five turnover you know, the margin was five turnover?
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How many times? What does that look like?
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It was like a last one hundred and twelve times
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A team's one hundred and eight three and one half
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of them over half of them are by twenty plus points. Yeah,
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like this is most almost all of them by double digits.
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Like that's what happened. There's no surviving that. So like
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I the one part of Sunday that I have a
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hard time with is the this is clearly indicative.
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Of who they are this entire season.
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I think there is a very concerning element to what
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happened up there on Sunday, and for obvious reasons that
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I know we'll get into. But they're not gonna be
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a team that's gonna fumble at a million time homes.
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There's no history of that. That said, their margin for
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air playing without Joe Burrow is so razor thin. They
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have to be a team that wins the turnover battle consistently.
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They have to be a team that is efficient running
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the football. They have to be a team that can
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do some of the basic things not shoot themselves in
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the foot.
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And when they do have.
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The occasional game where they did a couple times too many,
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that's what's gonna look like all season because their margin
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for air has gone down to be such a small
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sliver of what Joe Burrow.
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Used to cover.
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I want to talk about all of that, what happened
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on Sunday, what we do with that game on Sunday, and.
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What lies ahead.
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I would feel irresponsible if we didn't start the hour
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by talking about Rudy Johnson.
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Yeah, so if you don't know.
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Rudy TMZ reported this this morning, dead at the age
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of forty five, and I'll let you go dive into
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the particulars of that if you wish. The Bengals have
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released the statement. Sitting on my desk this morning, I'm
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not going to claim that like Rudy Johnson is my
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all time favorite Bengals player, but he is a big
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part of my all time period as a Bengals fan,
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the mid two thousands and look, Man, twenty one was awesome,
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twenty two is great.
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Loved it.
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I don't know that I could perfectly encapsulize what it
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was like to be a fan in the mid two thousands,
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when Marvin Lewis came here. They drafted Carson Palmer, they
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had Chad Johnson, they had Rudy, They go eleven and
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five in two thousand and five.
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I revere those teams.
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It's my favorite all time period as a Bengals fan,
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and Rudy was a big part of that. And I
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saw that this morning on Twitter. That was like a
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knife to the guy that hurt me.
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He was such you know, we talk a lot about
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the passing attack on those teams and how fun it
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was to watch Chad and TJ and Carson, But those
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offenses never really.
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Came into their own until Rudy started taking off. Yeah.
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Once he came in at that point midway through twenty
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two thousand and three, which led into the Kansas City
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game that still looked upon his fans' favorite games in history.
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Was when Rudy fully took it over.
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He was active at the beginning of that year, and
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he just had this running style like a bowling ball
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and this like just relentless motor that was so fun
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to watch and meshed perfectly with that line and that
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passing attack and him. It was getting the at that time,
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and he was just exactly he became kind of their personality.
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They just kept coming at you. They just kept coming
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at you. And that was his style in the games
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where you mentioned this one today again where he had
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forty three carries was kind of a breakout. But those
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are the San Francisco game I think of like a
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bunch of these were you could just keep handing it
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to him like it would just be and he would
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just wear people down and eventually have one where he'd
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bounce off a linebacker and take it for twenty or
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thirty mo. I went back through I was looking up
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some of his stats because I just remember his consistency,
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and you know, he he had thirteen hundred yards and
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exactly twelve touchdowns, but at least thirteen hundred yards and
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twelve touchdowns in three consecutive seasons four oh five, oh
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six now, and there are only five players this century
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that can say they have any.
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Three seasons like that. Yeah, and he had them all
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three in a row.
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He was such a force for that team, you know. Yeah,
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just awful sad news to here today because he was
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an absolute core of those teams.
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I tweeted you mentioned this two thousand and three. My
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favorite Rudy game was actually the week before Kansas City,
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they played the Texans and there ain't anybody there, Like
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the box score says fifty thousand people.
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No, nope, blacked out, not on TV.
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And the offense was you know, John Kittning is playing quarterbacks,
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so there's limitations there. Chad Johnson is ascending, but he
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hasn't reached superstar. And yet that day against the Texans,
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he carried it forty three times and in the fourth
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quarter as they're trying to take the lead and trying
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to salt the game away.
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Literally felt like he carried it on.
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Every play that was their offense, right, and like forty
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three was a lot. Then you imagine that now, Yeah,
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imagine giving the ball to Chase Brown forty three times.
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But it was just there was no disguising what they
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were doing. Every single play. We're giving it to Rudy.
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And I think I looked it up as longest run
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that day was twenty one yard, so it's he gained
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one hundred and eighty two scored two touchdowns. It's not
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like he had a big seventy yard run. I mean,
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it was just you know, just punching away three yards,
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four yards, two yards. You know, we giving it to
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him on first and ten, Okay, at second and nine, cool,
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we're giving it to Rudy, all right, third and six,
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we may throw it, but hell, we could give it
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to Rudy. And I remember they won the game. And
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that's the first time that I can recall everybody and
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it might have been forty thousand in the park, Like
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you know, we remember that time as like people started
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coming to Bengals games again. They didn't that day but
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I remember the Rudy champ and I remember going like,
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all right, maybe Corey Dylan is expendable, Like yeah, but
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there was a that time, like you you say, and
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it's it's not that dissimilar from Joe, Jamar and T.
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But like there's four guys. If I say to anybody
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who cares about sports in this town, say which one
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about Carson that period of time, Carson, Chad, tj Rudy, Like,
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and I felt like those guys then were everywhere, Yes,
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pre social media for the most part, Like those dudes
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were everywhere, and he was one of the faces of
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that man. It made me so sad this morning.
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You know, I'm a I know you know, we both
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know Paul Docherty really well. And one of the things
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that one of my earliest memories of stuff that he
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wrote was about Rudy Johnson and he was a column
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after one of those games, yeah, and wrote about Rudy
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was like how he's always on the bike when the
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when the defense is off on the sideline. He's like,
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it's to the point that you get mad when someone
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else is on the bike.
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No, get off, that's Rudy's bike. Yeah, Rudy's on the
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bike because.
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It's even when he's not out there, his legs are
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moved and he's thinking about it.
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He was going.
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It was like that was kind of his attitude, perfectly encapsulated,
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kind of his attitude as a player, like just always going,
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always churning to the next and just and and when
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you talk to more people. When I heard people reached
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out to me, whether it be on Twitter or whatever,
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when this came out today, was so pointing because I wasn't,
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you know, around or covering the scene when Rudy was there. Yeah,
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but pointed out that he was incredibly giving with his time,
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incredibly generous guy and super to deal with off the
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field as well, and you know, never you know, the
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type that would absolutely never say no to an interview
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and always be pleasant and thoughtful and genuine and remembering
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him that way too. So sad, awful news. The NFL
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is a scary sport. We don't know the details of
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any of this, yes, right, but I just the moment
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you hear the mention of some of the stuff that's
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being mentioned, I just get scared. And I feel for
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so many players that play this game knowing the risks
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of what could potentially happen. You see it happen all
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the time. You know, it's a players now, it's it's
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tough stuff.
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You mentioned. Everything you say is correct.
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You mentioned being giving of his time, and we had
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him on the air in twenty fourteen. We were doing
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Throwback Thursday, and the idea was every week, get you know,
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a figure from the past. It's like we had David Klengler,
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we had David Shula, but the first one we did
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was Rudy Johnson, Like, you don't know, like it's been
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a few years since he played, is he gonna, you know,
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still be Is it gonna be cool talking about his career?
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Is he not ready to do that? He was awesome.
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And then when he was an active player, when I
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think of that two thousand and five season, I think
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of Monday nights. For me, this is before I was
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on the air, But I would produce Bengals Line with
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Andy Furman and Dave Lapham and we would do it
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at this Game Day Sports Cafe downtown and they could
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never get the star players because they would be overwhelmed.
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So you would always get like.
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Anthony Mitchell or you know, we got John Kittna one game,
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But you would you wouldn't get Carson Palmer, but we
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got Rudy Johnson. And I remember he's he's there to
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do six to seven. You've done these shows, you know,
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be there for an hour and then it's like, holy crap,
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he's going to be swarmed. And he sat there and
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signed every autograph, shook people's hands and was just like
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this is his off night. It's Monday night, right, Like
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all he's obligated to do is be here for an hour.
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looking over and there's Rudy just and again like I'm
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not sure that happens with anybody else now.
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Man, it was awesome.
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the Stripes. It's very similar step up, yeah, and we'd
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have some stars, we'd have some Anthony Anthony Mitchell's of
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those times, right, And I can count on one hand
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amount of times that people would stay before and after
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Giovanni Bernard I remember specifically doing it, and not that
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they have to, because they don't have to, right, And
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that's sort of the point, is that it's a it's
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not even expected, it's truly the extra mile.
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just sort of understanding that you're not bigger than anybody
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else and humble and so uh yeah, awful stuff.
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Eighteen minutes after three o'clock, Paul Danner Junior, The Athletic
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I have not had a chance to watch you and
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Charlie go over the rewatch of the game.
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I understand why people are hesitanting.
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It's not been. It's been. It's been because of lack
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watch it so I can react to it. But what
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better you guys than me. Yeah, having to rewatch.
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That, well, I gotta tell you I enjoyed doing it
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What the rest of this season looks like. All right,
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all the time, the game on. Let me start with
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this part. Okay, the game on Sunday. When a team
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gets blown out, I think it's easy for people to
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default to, well, they quit, and I think that's the
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most I think that's the harshest accusation you could throw
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at a team or an athlete. I don't love using
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that with a broad brush. Maybe it happens anecdotally. I
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do think that I don't know that they quit. I
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do think there was a, to me watching on TV,
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a lack of fight when things got really bad.
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But I I stopped short of saying they quit.
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What do you How do you respond when someone says
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that game on Sunday, yeah, fluky stuff happened, but they quit.
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Yeah. I don't care if they quite it was over,
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they knew, I mean it was it was. We were
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going through on the Rewatch show.
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I had a clip I was just clipping out the
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Chase Brown runs and I had one in there and
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I was I had said to try.
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So.
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I want to start with this one just because I
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always have the score, time, game and situation on the
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top just so you can look at it.
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It says forty eight to three when it's at that
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point when it's thirty four to three and a half.
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I didn't see guys giving up to the point where
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you're like, whoa, there is no effort happening.
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Were there a couple business decisions.
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I guess maybe, were there a more younger guys playing. Yeah,
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all the rookies were out there except for Schamar Like
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it was a lot of that going on, just playing
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it out.
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I don't really have a problem with that.
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I look at the I'll still look back in to
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answer this specific question. I'll look at weeks one and
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two when I feel like there was a ton of
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fight amidst a bunch of adversity, and they showed a
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lot of fight.
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To win a couple of games.
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And we can debate that but like how they should
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have won or whatever, but I mean the Jacksonville game
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in particular. Yeah, everything that goes down there, no quitting guys.
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I look more at that than I do. You know,
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how what did they look like when it was forty
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eight to three trying to run duo.
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So at that point I have no idea because I
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wasn't watching it. Yeah, there were good NFL games on.
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It was a remarkably fun NFL Sunday and the Reds
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were playing, So I quit too, Yeah, I mean honestly,
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like I I just oh they quit in the second
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half Sunday.
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I would have a problem if it was I mean,
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if it was something within more reasonable, even if it
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would have stayed thirty one to three or something, right,
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you know, I just in the fourth quarter when it's
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a million to nothing, Like, I don't really know why
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we're trying to judge off that. I'll judge off other
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situations before that one, I guess.
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So the question that has been asked often and you've
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written about is about the continued inability to find success
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in the run game. Right, So, with an offensive line
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filled with guys who are not renowned for their run blocking,
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with them not changing the running back himself, the featured
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running back, Chase Brown, I'm sure they're not going to
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dramatically overhaul the plays in their offense. How does the
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running game get better enough for them to survive this season?
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With a backup quarterback. I don't know.
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I mean, it feels like there aren't a lot of
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answers out there. I think there's a couple of things
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at play.
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One. I do think that Minnesota was.
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A challenge they weren't ready for in terms of, you know,
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they just they're they're not gelled together.
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The plan was giving them fits.
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They were tentative, they lacked any kind of aggression, and
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they seem to not know what they were supposed to
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be doing right And and I'm not gonna get into
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why that is yet, but like so, I do think
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that will change, like as time goes on here. I
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do think you can grow confidence in young players, especially
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how they had two rookie guards out there, a third
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and a fifth round pick.
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In that game.
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And this is what we said, I mean, if you're
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gonna go play rookies, it sounds great to say play
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the kid. No, oh no, you were gonna live through
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those growing pains. They are gonna see things they haven't
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seen before. They're gonna experience the NFL in ways they
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didn't know football could be played before. They're gonna go
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through a lot of stuff and they have to go
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through that. I've referenced this. I'll never forget the conversation
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I had with Clint Bowling a couple of years after
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when he talked about recognizing after after the fact a
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year or two later, how lost he was his rookie year, like,
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how lost he felt out there, and he was the
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last Bengals pick to get a second contract with Cincinnati
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on the offensive line, he was a success.
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Yeah, but you just have to go through that.
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This is what guys go through when they have to
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play as rookies. It's not gonna be clean, they're gonna
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make mistakes, they're not gonna play with confidence.
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And when you have two of your five spots, Dalton
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Reisner just got.
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There okay, and whether he should have been there earlier
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or whatever, like you talk about that obviously, but that
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stuff happening, the lack of confidence, the lack of totally
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understanding what you're supposed to be doing because of rookies,
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because of being new, because of gelling, because of scheme,
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maybe they're not learning it right, whatever, any of that
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all is that can get better in time. So I'm
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trying to answer your question, Yes, that can get better
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in time if they can start playing confidently and know
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what they're doing.
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I don't.
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It's obviously it's not a Chase Brown problem. I felt
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bad yesterday. I was just trying to filter out Chase
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Brown's running game yesterday and questions of Zach Taylor.
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I think he felt like I was saying Chase Brown
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is stinking it up, and I enjoyed that interaction.
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I wasn't that I was trying. I was not trying
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to say that. I was trying to say, like, what's
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happening with the run game. I didn't want to get
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into the gadget plays and everything and the like, oh,
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what if Taj Brooks did in the fourth quarter. Let's
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talk about, you know, forty seven carries for ninety three
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yards or whatever. And somehow I think I came off
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as saying Chase Brown's problem with you.
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Know, the before contact numbers are.
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Negative fifty four yards before contact this year for Chase Brown.
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I mean, so it's negative zero point six yards before
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contact per carry and the worst the NFL average is
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positive point two six.
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There's it's it's crazy.
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It's crazy that you're constantly having to work behind any
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you know, and Chase Brown now has going back to
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the year two thousand first three games of a year
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minimum forty attempts, the worst.
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Output in terms of yards per carry.
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One point ninety seven that we've seen this century in
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that in this scenario, incredible from a guy who I'm
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telling you I couldn't find a soul in that building
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that watched the media, any of us that had seen
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last year, saw what he looked like now heard everything
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that they were saying, that would ever say that, Oh,
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Chase Brown's not gonna do You're much from him right
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right now. Granted the Borough thing is another part of this,
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but it's stunning. It's it's stunning that it's this bad
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when you have him and kind of know what you
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have and have the other weapons that you have. I
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don't think it will continue at this level. Uh, they're
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they're looking at they're looking at tweaks and schemes they
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got to be they're looking at you know, maybe it
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is a ripping up of the whole thing that we
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seem to talk about at this time every year. Uh,
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there's gonna be changes, but I think you're banking on
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the changes, building confidence in those changes, in those news schemes,
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and then the inevitably it's just gonna come back to
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the players playing confidently and knowing what they're doing in
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front of Chase Brown.
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Paul Danner Junior, the Athletic Dot Com in the Growler Podcast.
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I cannot imagine what it must have been like to
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rewatch that football game.
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Well, I filtered it out. I certainly did not rewatch
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the whole entire thing. I definitely picked the spots I
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wanted to focus on.
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SINCY three sixty with Tony Pike. If we want to
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move on, I have to keep going and Boston Elmore, I.
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Think you should continue.
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Let me keep going there Sincy three sixty tomorrow, which
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the hunt for the last wildcard spot. Obviously, Cincinnati possesses
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the tiebreaker. New York, after an off day yesterday, is
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game behind both New York and Cincinnati. D Back start
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a series tonight against the LA Dodgers. Former Bengals running
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back Rudy Johnson passes away at the age of forty five,
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still holds a number of Bengals career and single season
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rushing records. Bengals with today off They've got the Denver
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Broncos on Monday night. Scott's Adafield Show Tonight at eight
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o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty from the original Montgomery and
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the Bearcat's getting said to take on Kansas on a
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Saturday afternoon Where to Oakley Greens Here in Oakley Paul
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Danner Junior from the Athletic The Reds play the Pirates tonight. Now,
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many believe that Hunter Green should pitch tonight's game, so
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he could also throw on Sunday. Do you concur with
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that chunk of the fan base?
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Uh?
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I like Brady Singer. Brady Singer has been really good, Rachel.
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I mean I don't. I don't know, what's some stats?
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I mean since July twenty first R two one five.
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Yeah, it's good. I think more Hunter Green is good.
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But I also think that you're partially don't. I don't
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want to get into the logistics of this because I'm
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probably gonna mess it up. I've been focused on what rewatched.
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But if Hunters should be pitching game one of the playoffs, right,
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if this works, it works out well, If yeah, you
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do jeopardize like, okay, what are we doing? But if
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you want him for Game one of the playoffs. Then
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got to get there. You gotta get there. But I
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just think I have faith. I would have faith, and
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Brady Singer, yeah, I would have faith, and I know
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whatever whatever they're gonna do. I like the setup that
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they have now with wou Tell, Martinez, Chase Burns, Yes,
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as three wild card pieces to shove in there, and
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it cleans up everything you can. I mean, you can
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do a game with those three and feel great. You
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know what I mean if you wanted to put together
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a game. They may end up doing that. But like
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I like, I like the setup of those three guys.
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As they now start playing more, Playoff should be managed
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like Playoff style based from this point forward.
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I think you saw it with how they used Burns,
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and I think you saw it with Nick Martinez in
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the role that is perfect for him. I know you
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were in Minneapolis on Sunday, but I mean to me,
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like we've said it all year long, what's it's what
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makes them dangerous if they get there.
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They're really good starting pitching, but.
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A couple of bullets you could use at any point
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in the game to get more than just one innings
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worth of outs.
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Gotta get South Stuart in the lineup, no question, I don't.
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I I understand.
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It's like where got to get when you're when you're
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trying to win these playoff type managed games and you
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are riding the back of pitching.
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In defense and that's fine.
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Uh huh one swing from south Steward can win you
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a game. Yes, you're counting us that so, yes, d
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h whatever matter. Need him in the batter's box right, Yes,
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it's where he plays. And you've just seen too much
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to this point of of what he can bring you,
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uh to to not I don't.
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I just I want you need more at batch from
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South Stewart's part of this. Uh, it's my mini Reds analysis.
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That's good. That's good. I think most would would agree.
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I learned that listening to power Sacks. Power Sacks is awesome.
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It is awesome. Yeah, yeah, Charlie and Bryant killing it
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right now. I did listen to that. Yes, yes, great stuff.
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The rewatch I'll get to tomorrow. It's okay, Well we'll
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talk tomorrow. Listen to it. You'll be on the podcast
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tomorrow morning. I don't have to rewatch the game. Maybe
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I'll save some of my favorite clips for you. In
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the the.
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The run up to the game on Sunday, many wondered,
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are the Bengals gonna go get a quarterback? And could
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that guy be the long term dude? At least long
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term meeting the next three months. In the aftermath of
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Jake Browning's performance, many have yelled and screened, now you
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have to go get somebody. Let me start with Jake
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on Sunday. He wasn't good. He had a lot of
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help in not being good. How much do you put
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specifically on Jake minimal? I mean, understanding what he is.
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He's a backup quarterback.
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Yeah, I don't. I don't come out of that game.
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They're gonna have to figure out how they can have
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him better walking the line, you know, between aggressive and reckless.
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The Dan PITCHERR reference with us yesterday, which I think
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he has struggled.
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With a little bit here.
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In these first two games, five picks, but a couple
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of them have been just throw them all away, right,
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And Dan Pitcher admitted that the pick six was just
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you just got You're gonna have to make some throws
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for them to win, but you gotta know when not
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to better. And I think that's where they're at kind
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of with Jake. But it's about the pressure. It's about
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it being third and long over and over and over again.
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You want to see how you lose, and lose ugly
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being third and long in that building against Brian Flores
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all day right, Like he's out there, guys are doing
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three different pre snap looks. Everyone's running all over the place.
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You can't hear yourself think for a second. No one
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can call out any kind of an adjustment or audible
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talking to the person next to him. Everybody's moving around
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and it's third and ten again. Okay, that is no
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way to play football. It's no way to win in
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that building. It's as tough as it gets in terms
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of trying to actually execute. That's why we keep talking
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about the run game from the other day and the
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lack of any kind of efficiency on first and second down,
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Like if you can't find some way to keep yourself
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out of I mean, it was seven first downs or
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seven third downs in the first half, and all of
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them except for one or eight or longer. I mean
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it's over, man, Yeah, it's over, and you have to
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find a way to get that help. He is going
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to be a part of the problem until you help
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the rest of the players be a solution. Like you
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have to have good down and distance, you have to
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have a balanced run game. You have to be running
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more under center play action. I hate to keep harping
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on it, but like, yeah, they did it five times
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the other day. It's a successful thing when Jake has
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done it every time. They do it at one of
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the lowest rates in the league. Like, you've just gotta
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beat keeping the other team thinking about is this a
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play action play that they can get me? Not just
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firing off on the under center runs and all that stuff.
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You've gotta be doing more screens Chase Brown. Okay, this
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is one of my favorite things. I was looking at
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right before I came over here.
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Do you remember his.
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Miles per hour play that we talked about in Yeahpolis
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twenty two miles per hour. Yeah, under center play action
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screen to Chase Brown. He takes it fifty four yards.
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Do you know how many times they have run an
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under center play action screen to Chase Brown since then?
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Less than five, zero, sew times they have done that
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since then? Good coaching under even just one time in
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the Pistol they did one time in the pistol they did.
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He got twelve yards and had space to maybe break
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it farther against the Raiders last year. That's it doing
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so to me, like that's he's a weapon when when
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when Jake Browning came in in twenty twenty three, one
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of the biggest things they did was they started heavily
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leaning into the screen game. It was the best I've
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ever seen a screen game on a team I've covered. Yes,
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it was unbelievable. Every time they threw it. We talked
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about it like anything I've ever seen.
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It was crazy. All of a sudden, they were in
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a great screen team.
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We talked about them screen passing their way to the
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postseason because they did it.
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Yes, because they tried it, because they were doing it,
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and you find things that way.
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That year. That was the thing they found.
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When we talk about how they've changed schemes and leaned
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into certain things to invigorate running game or situations that
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weren't ideal, like the fact that that has to be
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something that you're doing, the fact that you're just not
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doing it even once a game, two, three times a game,
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like it doesn't no one's saying going out here and
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screen it twenty times, but like you have to be
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trying to do some of this different stuff to just
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to try to open everything up, and I think you're
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hoping that you'll see more of that. They obviously didn't
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have a ton of rhythm or game script to do that,
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or the moment they did start moving the ball, it
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got laid on into the ground.
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It was a bit of an anomaly game on Sunday.
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But as we go forward, there's just gotta be more
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of that kind of stuff. They're not gonna just suddenly
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be able to move people. They're an offensive line of
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pass protectors that aren't great at run blocking, and the
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whole thing doesn't seem to be working real well together
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right now. You can tinker with that all you want.
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I don't know that you can change that dramatically. You've
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just got to start being way more diverse than some
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of the other stuff that you're doing to keep the
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the defenders off balance, it seems like, and they certainly
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weren't doing enough of that on Sunday, And maybe that's
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something that comes out in the next few weeks.
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I have three minutes to go over two more things. Okay,
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number one, no on Kirk Cousins. Then oh, sorry, Russell Wilson, Yeah,
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I don't need that. I don't think Jake Browning is
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the problem, but I don't. Do you want what you've
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seen fro Russell Wilson?
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Do you like that? You like what you've been seeing
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some farm good? Is he better than Brett Rippon? Though
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I didn't.
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I didn't like what they're doing with the backup thing.
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You don't want to be in a world where you
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have to watch Brett Rippon or Sean Clifford or and
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you know, no offense to those guys. I just don't
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really care to sing Mike White. I would have liked
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to have seen someone with a little bit more experience
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and a little bit I've been kind of banging the
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Tyler Huntley drum. He's just sitting on Baltimore's practice squad.
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He's played a lot more, he's been successful to a degree,
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more so, certainly more experienced than those guys have recently.
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I'd like to feel better about your backup, so you
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could maybe turn to that you don't going out and
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like thinking that Kirk Cousins is gonna come in here
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in salvage some kind of this season, or be that
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dramatically different.
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Yeah, I don't. That's a bucket of cold water you
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just threw. Sorry is fine? No, it's a here to
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be the voice of reason to be. I don't know.
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Maybe maybe I'm unreasonable, Maybe I hear a lot of things.
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I just think the guy that's been here this long,
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that does know that have is the trust of the
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team and and chemistry with the receivers, has a better
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chance of digging you out of this than somebody who
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shows up and says, Hi, my name's Kirk.
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Who is your name? Jamar? Like and they do.
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Would imagine Kirk Cousins knows Jamar Chas's they chake hands. Yeah,
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there might be other teammates that he's not that familiar with,
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but Jamar, I'm thinking he would know who that.
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I wonder what it's like to throw up the football
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to this guy, right, I don't want to have to
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think about that.
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Okay, that's all the Other part of this is you
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talked about them like not being ready, and we hear
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what's the Brian Flores defense, and like this is wearing
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on me Game one.
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It's just a bad matchup.
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I know, Okay, division team they see twice a year,
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can't figure it out elite wide receivers. Okay, bad matchup?
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How many more of these teams are they gonna play?
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Where you go?
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Oh, you know, the other team's just got this great
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defensive coordinator. Or hey, the other team's got good corners
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and you can't expect Jamar and Tee to get open.
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Or boy, this other team they just they got a guy.
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He's a really good three technique. Like I'm already tired
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of hearing about how just throw your hands up, because
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not a lot you can do against the immortal Brian
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Flora is in his defense that the Atlanta Falcons figured
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out a way to score twenty two points against like this.
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It's not to say that the expl as to why
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things went poorly is invalid, Certainly.
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It is, but why three games in twice?
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It's whether there's just nothing they can do against the
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opponent when you got Miles Garrett or when you got
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Brian Flores Like, well, the other teams have good coaches
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and players too, so there's not gonna be a thing,
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just another bad matchup.
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I mean, they scored thirty one against Jacksonville, who looks
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to have a pretty good well.
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They only play them once. I'm just I mean, the
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Browns are a good defense. The Browns just held the
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Packers to ten. Were they a bad matchup for the
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Baltimore Ravens?
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What's that where the Browns defense a bad matchup for
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the Baltimore.
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Ravens obviously goes well for the Browns. I'm not saying,
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I just it's like, okay, I'll give you the fine.
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The Browns are a bad matchup to the Packers stink
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because they they lost to the Browns. As far as
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I'm concerned, you only get to play the bad matchup
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card once Bengals played at Week one, and don't get
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to play it again week eighteen since it's the same team.
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If if the if, the the excuse every week is
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gonna be well just can't can't, can't do anything against
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that Green Bay defense, then what are we doing?
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I think they went into those two games, the Minnesota
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game and the Cleveland game, specifically playing conservative game plans
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to try to not turn it over and try to win.
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It that way.
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That is the type of game they wanted to play.
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One of them they didn't turn it over. The other
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one they turned it over five times. I think they
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thought they could go to Minnesota and win like they
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won the Cleveland game by being safe, and that means
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it was you're not gonna see some of the open
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stuff that they played differently against Jacksonville they did. They
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just they let it rip more. They just said we're
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gonna dictate with our passing game. I think that's more
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of who they're gonna be all year. But I think
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part of what they were trying to do this year
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is to try to just win the turnover battle early
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on when they don't quite know what they have, because
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they feel like that's where they have lost.
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Games early in seasons in previous years.
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Comes a lot harder to go through all of that
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evolution as you deal with the burrow, the browning thing
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that's happening. But I think that's part of that's part
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of what's happening this one. When you, like I said,
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when you're in third and lungs, Yeah, when you're when
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it's when you're down by a bunch in that building.
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I think that's a bad match up for the NFL.
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I think putting yourself in those spots, I think they
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tried to avoid that by running the ball and for
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on the early downs as much as they did it,
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just they just couldn't do it. Is they needed to
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find other ways to get yards. They probably need to
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do more of the gadget stuff that they tinkered with
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or the quick game that they were tinkering with. They
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didn't and it put themselves in those bad spots all
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over and over again. I think that's that is all
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part of what has gone wrong. I'm curious to see
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how it evolves. I don't see them being.
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Bad.
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I think they try to praise the other team afterwards
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because they're not trying to take credit away from them.
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I don't think that there's you're gonna have a season
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of them playing the bad matchup game. I understand you're
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sick of hearing. I don't know, not like it just
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started this year.
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I know what I want to fire into the sun
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with more emphasis strike technique or bad matchup.
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Yeah, well there might be something fired into the sun
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if this year continues like.
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This up front, thank you as always. Yeah, it's a pleasure.
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We talked about the rest. That part was fun. I know,
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I enjoy it. I enjoyed this.
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Come on, you know, I thrive and things going sideways.
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I love I lived on sway to the nineties. As
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a child of the nineties, you know, you know, I
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appreciate this portion of the program.
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We are broadcasting from Oakley Greens. There is no better
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plays to watch the Bengals and Broncos on Monday Night football.
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Think of next week you'll.
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Have the Reds in the postseason, perhaps the Bengals on
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Monday Night. By the way, full slate of college games
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this weekend and the Ryder Cup here at Oakley Greens.
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And while you're watching the Ryder Cup, you could play
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mini golf with your buddies out back. It is a
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five away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty,
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Cincinnati Sports.
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Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
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Traffic southbound seventy one seventy five. It is an accident
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on the Collector Ramp from two to seventy five and Erlanger.
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The center lane blocked on that Collector ramp. Burnett Avenue.
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It's another accident between King Drive and Goodman Street. And
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River Road accident between Evans and State. I'm at ezelic
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with traffic.
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This is Jeff for tri statement