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is Gun Talk. Glad you could be here. You can
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always follow me over on X, you know, the former Twitter.
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I'm at Gun Talk over there, and I participate pretty
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frequently and You never know. We're going to stir it
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up a little bit. And sometimes we get to share
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some good information. I try not to post things that
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are just like provocative clickbait stuff like a lot of
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people do, just trying to drive engagement. Not my thing.
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I just don't operate that way. I try to make
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it worthwhile for you. So, yeah, over on X, I
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am at Gun Talk. And, of course, we... Have our
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YouTube channel, and we have Shooting Sports Life, which is
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a great channel, 24-7. It runs all the time, 24
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it's free. There you go. All right, we are open lines.
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If you want to join me right now, call me
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at TomTalkGun. That'll get you in. revolvers, pistols, rifles, shotguns,
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doesn't matter, whatever you want to talk about, or just
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sharing stories. It's all good. Michael called in out of
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North Carolina. Hey, Michael, thank you for your patience. You
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have made it out of the air. What's on your mind, sir?
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I waited too long to say might as well, and
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I know better. Uh-oh. Yeah, a gun store had an
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email of a Taurus 327 Federal Snubby And I glanced
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at it and said, I'll click that in a minute.
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It was on sale, used for $ 299, and of course
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it was gone. And that was Michelle and I were,
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of course, talking about, you know, shoot, because Roy Huntington,
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one of my fun guests you've had, has talked about using,
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you know, 32 H & R, you know, for the
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lower blast and recoil and such. which always makes me
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think of Jeff Quinn, who used to say, people don't
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care if people don't want you making holes in them
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and they don't much care how small that hole is.
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People don't like it when you start putting holes in them.
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It changes their behavior and that's the whole idea. And so, yeah,
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whatever you got, you use it.
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So, all right.
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So you missed out on this revolver. What are you
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going to do now?
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Well, It's all that thing where I really didn't need
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to buy another one, but, you know, who cares? So
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I'll probably keep looking because, you know, maybe I can
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find another one because that's as far as that caliber
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is one I don't have. I've got two or three 327. But, yeah,
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I guess I'll keep looking and start paying more attention
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and clicking on stuff quicker. You know, because I've carried a.
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22 LCR before in a pocket just because, you know,
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it's still a gun. And if you have to, in
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the rare event you have to point it at somebody,
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they're probably not going to notice it's a.
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22.
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You know, Michael, I think that you've got to work
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on your click draw.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Oh, one other thing, Michael. I'm sure you know this,
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but just in case. Putting it in the cart does
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not mean you have locked it up. Until you've purchased it,
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somebody else can still go and buy it. So you've
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got to put it in the cart and complete the
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purchase immediately. Even if you're thinking, well, I'm going to
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add some more things to it. Fine. Put a second
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order in. Grab it and buy it right now.
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Exactly.
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Do it now. I listened to part of your advice.
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I said, might as well, but I didn't do it
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quick enough.
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Okay. All right, well, thanks for sharing your story of woe.
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I appreciate you giving us a chance to remind everybody
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about that. Thanks, Michael. Thanks for the call. All right,
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let's go over something here. There are seven days in
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the week. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You
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know what's not in there?
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Someday.
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Someday. Someday is not a day. It's part of the week.
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Someday doesn't get here. I'm going to do that someday.
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I always wanted to go take that class at that
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place someday. I cannot tell you in the 42 years, yeah,
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that I've been flying, how many people have told me,
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you know, I've always wanted to learn to fly. I'll
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do that someday. I keep looking at the calendar, and
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I just don't see someday on there. If it's something
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you really want to do, there's a phrase used a
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lot these days, and at first I really didn't get it.
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And I have learned to understand it, and that is
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the word intentional. You have to be intentional. Intentional. which
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means you have to have a reason and then you
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have to actually follow through. A sense of urgency is
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another way to put it, of saying, you know, if
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I'm going to make that happen someday, I better do
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something about that today and start down the road. And
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you may say, well, it may be a year before
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we get there. Yeah, but you know what? It's going
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to be a year from when you start. And if
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you don't start for another year, then it's going to
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be two years from now. Just one of those things,
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and we've all done it. I'm as guilty as anybody
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else to say, you know, one of these days I'm
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going to do that. Yeah, you know what? Here's what happens.
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Let me just tell you from the perspective of looking
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in the rearview mirror. I got a lot more in
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the rearview mirror than I got ahead of me these days.
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And that is those, I'm going to do that someday,
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get away, they get away from you. And some of
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them you never get to. Now, I am saying yes
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to a lot of things. I've always said yes to
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a lot of things, actually. I may have shared with you,
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that is one of our family mottos. We raised our
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kids on this. If somebody asks if you can do something,
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always say yes. Why would you do that? Even if
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you've never done it before. And what I tell them,
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what I've always told them, and they've both become very successful,
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I think partly as a result of that, is look,
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you're smart. And you could learn to do anything. And
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by saying yes, you can go learn how to do it.
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And if they say, well, could you do this? You go, yes.
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You say, I've never done it before, but yes, I
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can do that. And then you go learn how. It's
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amazing what you can learn to do when you have
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that attitude of yes. The other side of that is
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that we've all known people like this who always say
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you know. They're the ones who try to put a
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stop to everything. Well, we can't do that because. Oh, no,
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we can't do that. No, no, no. I want to
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be around the people who say yes. I don't know
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how we're going to do it, but we're going to
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make it happen. Let's see. Let's go talk to Gary
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of Hot Springs, Virginia on one. Hey, Gary, thanks for
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calling in. What's up?
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Hey, it's Gary here, and it's Hot Springs Village, Arkansas,
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not Virginia, but that's okay. Maybe they have one there.
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Oh, well, so I screwed that up.
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Well, That's okay. I was listening to you last Sunday,
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and your conversation was on training and target practice and
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training on a regular basis. And I wanted to bring
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up that you might want to share with your listeners
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what they call the MILO, M-I-L-O. I'm not sure exactly
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what MILO stands for, but it is, for instance, here
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in the village at the Police Department Training Center, It's
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a 12 or 14-foot screen on the wall, and you
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use laser guns that are similar to, let's say, a
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Glock 19, and they put up real-life situations on the screen. Well,
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they can do caricature types. They can do target practicing,
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but they put up real-life situations. It's like real video.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're walking down the street, and let's say somebody's coming
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at you with a knife. How do you handle that
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situation to the point where you either turn around and
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walk away from the situation, or it gets to the
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point where you think you have to draw your weapon?
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And how do you handle getting to that point? What's
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your thought process? How do you assess the actual threat
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from this person? Is he actually coming at you or
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is he standing still? And at what point do you
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decide that you may have to fire your weapon?
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Gary, let me jump in here, Gary, because I know
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people are thinking, well, yeah, but is that going to
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teach you to shoot? That's not what it's for. This
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is not about learning to shoot. It's learning how to
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think and to use your eyes and see what's going on.
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And you look at the threat. Okay, what's going on
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behind the threat? Is there somebody back there? Is there
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a buddy back there? What's actually going on? Sweeping your eyes,
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looking at things, making decisions.
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And if you do decide you have to pull the trigger,
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it shows you whether you hit him, where your shot went,
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whether you hit him and he went down or what.
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It is the.
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Best real life situation that After you've done it and
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you really get to assess your thought process, how you
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communicate to the threat, what decisions you have to make
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and how quickly and all that stuff. You could be
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in a, it'll simulate being in a store and someone
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pulls a gun out. You have to decide whether to
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get involved or not.
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Gary, I take it you've done this, right?
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I have done it. And I am so thankful that
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I did because when I'm out and about, whether I'm
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alone or with my wife, and when I'm carrying, I'm
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always thinking about those things that I went through and
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how I handled them. It just simulates the real-life situation
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like you cannot get on any training range or target
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shooting range.
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That's where I wanted to go with you, because there
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are people who are thinking, yeah, well, it doesn't really
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simulate it. It is the weirdest thing, and there are
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different programs. They have FATS program, they have Milo, they
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have some others. When you do this, at first it
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feels like, okay, we're going to go do this exercise.
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In about seven seconds... You are mentally in that scenario.
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It feels very real to you. Your heart rate goes up.
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Your breathing increases. I mean, it puts stress on you
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even though you're just looking at a screen, doesn't it?
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Yes, it does.
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It does.
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And once you've done it, at least even if you
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just shot the first scenario and you're going into another one,
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You learn every time you do it what to say,
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how to think, how to react, whether to just put
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your hand on your weapon to be ready, whether or
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not you need to pull your weapon and be ready
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to pull the trigger. And win.
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Yes.
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What to do and win. Look, Gary, I've got to
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run here. I want to thank you. This is great
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bringing this up. There's a lot of emphasis these days
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on shooting fast. And I like the phrase that we
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had from a guest recently says, you know, we're training
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people to shoot faster than they can think. And that's
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where this simulator training comes in, because it helps you
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to think, understand what's going on, to analyze and realizing
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that there are certainly there are situations where you need
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to draw and shoot fast. But those are the minority.
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Mostly you need to see what's going on and figure
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it all out. And you need time to do that.
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But the more training you have, the more quickly you
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can work your way through and come to the correct decision.
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Let's keep talking about guns because what else are we
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going to do around here? I'm Tom Gresham. Give me
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a call at TomTalkGun. David called in. He's on line
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five out of Oregon, I believe that is. Hey, David, welcome.
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Yes, sir.
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How are you doing, Tom?
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I am well. What's on your mind?
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Well, we were.
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Talking about self-defense and self-defense rounds and firearms. I have
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to say, I've played with the Judge with double-odd and a.
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410 shell, and I used to have that by the
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bed stand. But over time, I've gone back to the original, the.
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45 1911.
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Okay.
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I don't really see any reason to change. It's got
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the power to stop anything that's going to threaten you.
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What do they say? Yeah, what do they say? It's
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won 11 wars. So there you go.
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You can't beat it, sir. I mean, it's there, it's reliable,
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it's proven, and there's just no replacing it.
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I agree. I love the 1911. Now, is yours in a.
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45 or a. 9?
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It's.
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45, sir. All right. I don't believe the 9mm cartridge
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lives up to the Stocker's Tower of the.
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45.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And you had something else on your mind, I believe.
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Yes, sir.
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I had a range report on a Mossberg Patriot 270
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with a Vortex.
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With a Vortex, oh, shoot, now I can't remember the
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name of the scope. But anyways, 200 yards out after
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an initial breaking period, it's dead on accurate. And for
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the price, I can't think of a better starting deer
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rifle for anybody than that Mossberg along with that Vortex I8.
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The Mossberg Patriot is one of those sleepers that just
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doesn't get a lot of play, doesn't get a lot
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of attention, but it just is a good, accurate, reliable rifle.
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It really is. It has that fluted barrel, so I
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was a little concerned about, you know, in the cold,
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maybe a little bit of warpage from heat. But, you know,
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you're not putting a bunch of rounds through it.
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You're hunting.
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Exactly. You're hunting and you're eating.
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If you get to six shots with it, something has
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gone really wrong.
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You might need to read and adjust your scope.
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Yes, exactly. It's time to stop and go back and
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figure out what's going on here.
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Yeah, exactly, sir. So anyways, that's all I had. I
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just wanted to report in on the 1911. I don't
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think there's a adequate replacement for it yet. And, uh,
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That Mossberg Patriot with the Vortex scope is unbeatable in
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my book for the money.
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Sounds good. Appreciate the call. Yeah, the 1911, still doing
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what it's doing. I made the joke about, you know,
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11 wars because I can't remember. Was it Ilya Omar's readings?
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No, no.
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I think, reading something about, and her script said World
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War II, you know, aye, aye. She read it as
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World War XI. It's like, wow, how divorced can you
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be from reality?
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Oh, well.
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We know, we know, but so that's the common deal
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now is that 1911 has been used in 11 world wars.
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Oh, well.
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There are excellent pistols out there. A lot of them
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are a lot more modern, have a lot of great features,
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and yet people still love the 1911. When I was
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having my conversation with that young lady yesterday who I
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met out in the middle of nowhere, And she's carrying
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an M & P 10 millimeter in her chest rig.
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At no point was she ever aware, because I was
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wearing an insulated vest, that underneath that, at the 330
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position on my belt, was a 1911 in. 45. Yep.
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Commander size. Still got nine rounds of. 45 in it.
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And I had eight rounds of. 45 in the magazine
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that was on my belt, my backup mag. Kind of
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an older 1911. This is a Smith & Wesson that
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they made in scandium. So it's a lightweight alloy, aluminum
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alloy with scandium mixed in to make it stronger. Very
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nice pistols. I would not want to take a class
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and shoot several hundred rounds through it because the lightweight
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makes for more recoil. But the lightweight also makes it
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a lot easier to carry. And it's easier on your back.
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And for the amount of shooting you're going to do
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in a self-defense situation, you won't know the difference. You
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won't care. So that's kind of where I am there.
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And I have full-size steel guns I can use at
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the range. And then I can carry the lightweight ones.
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So that just works. Why do we like the 1911? Well,
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I think two primary reasons. One is the trigger. That's
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the one we always talk about because the triggers are very,
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very good. But the others, they tend to be slim.
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The grips are slim. It's a single stack, of course.
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And it fits a lot of hands. Having said that,
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there are some really great double stack pistols out there.
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There are even some really good single stack. 45s out
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there that are more modern. Which one you like, truthfully,
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doesn't really matter. The main thing is that you learn
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to use it. Get good ammo. Buy a lot of magazines.
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By a lot, I mean a dozen or more. Yes, yes,
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you need that many. And then just go out and
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shoot the heck out of it and make it part
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of what you do every single day. Don't leave home
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without it. You know, these breaks we take during the
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show are not good for me. Gives me a chance
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to go online and shop. Yeah, yeah, you can imagine
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where I'm shopping. Okay. I'm going to introduce a new
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acronym for you today. ABBA. And we're not talking about
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the group that does Dancing Queen. A-B-B-A. Always Be Buying Ammo. ABBA.
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Right now we got a midterm election coming up. Don't
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know which way it's going to go. Don't know which
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way the wind's going to blow. There is a possibility
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that Not trying to fearmonger, just telling you. Possibility that
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something happens and people get a little bit spooked and
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panicky and prices go up. It happens. Prices go up,
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prices go down. If you're always buying ammo, I had
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somebody just say recently, yeah, every time I get a paycheck,
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I go out and buy a box of ammo. He says,
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after a while, it adds up. Yes, it does. That's
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the whole idea behind it. You don't have to be
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buying a case at a time. You can buy a
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little bit at a time. But you need to be buying.
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Always be buying ammo. There you go. Let's go to
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line three. Mark is with us out of Illinois. Hey, Mark,
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you made it. What's on your mind?
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Yeah, a while back I picked up a used stainless
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Taurus 605. It's five-shot, two-inch barrel. The grip on the back...
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has exposed metal from the handle, and then it looks
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like there's a Hogue grip on it that's got the
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screw on the bottom rather than on the side. I
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haven't shot anything plus P in it. Everything I've shot
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in here has been... I've shot 130 grain standard metal
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case bullets in it, and I've shot some... lightweight, non-plus P110,
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and everything, no matter what you're shooting here, the thing
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just digs into my hand really good and hard. I
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didn't think that the difference in a two-inch shorter barrel
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would make that big of a difference in recoil. Now,
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as far as I can tell, this gun is completely
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stainless steel. I was wondering if maybe because it looks
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like Maybe there's a barrel sleeve inside of it.
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It is a stainless steel gun.
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Hello?
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It's a stainless steel gun. You've got to give me
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a chance to get in now and then, okay?
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, this is a stainless steel revolver, and yes, a
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magnet may stick to it because magnets do stick to
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some kinds of stainless steel, so that doesn't mean it's
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not stainless steel. But to your point, yeah, a 2-inch.
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38 or. 357 revolver kicks a lot. It's just the
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nature of the beast. Let me offer a thought here.
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One of the things I am seeing now from people
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who I really respect, who really teach self-defense, and they
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specialize in revolvers, and on their 38s, they are now,
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for personal defense, carrying hard-cast lead wad cutter loads. About
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800 feet per second. Nothing fast, nothing plus P. They're
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just punching holes through whatever the target is or the
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thread is. And the recoil is much lighter. And I
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just thought that was a really interesting development. What do
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you think?
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Okay. See, my thought was, is there a way I
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can get a grip that has rubber in the back?
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Because I'm thinking this rubber grip is a hoe grip
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because the screw is on the bottom.
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I would think so. No, I would think so. I
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would think you could find some kind of a grip
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for this. I haven't looked it up, but all you
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got to do is just do an Internet search for
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a grip for Taurus 605 and see what comes up.
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I got to keep moving. We're getting them stacked up now. And, look,
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I appreciate the call, sir. Let me go grab Joe
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out of Jefferson, Texas, on two. Hey, Joe, you're on
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Gun Talk, and I know what you want to talk about.
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Yes, sir. I want to encourage everybody to get out
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and vote. If you don't protect your Second Amendment rights,
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you're not going to have the power to protect any.
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Of your other rights.
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Well, that's true. And there's a whole lot else that
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goes with this vote on Tuesday. And a lot of people,
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of course, have already voted. They did early voting, which
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is great. But if you didn't, you just got to
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make it a point. You go, yeah, I'm busy. I
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got this. I got that going. No, I'm sorry. No excuses.
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This is one of those no excuses deal. This one
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is really important. And we have seen how crazy the
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left has gotten. I mean, really crazy to the point
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where they're actually openly saying, we know they're willing to
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shoot us because they shot Donald Trump. And they tried
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to shoot him again and tried to shoot him again
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after they shot him the first time. They are crazy.
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And we simply, I mean, There's no excuse. You've got
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to get to the polls. You've got to vote. Joe,
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I'm also thinking that maybe one way to go is
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to contact a bunch of your friends and get them
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to go with you. Just make it a thing. We're
476
00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:15.319
all going to go vote together. Then we're going to
477
00:28:15.339 --> 00:28:16.700
go out to lunch together. What do you think?
478
00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:21.619
Everybody that I know, we all piled up together. There
479
00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:24.559
was about eight of us. And when we walked into
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00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.069
our little polling place, there was nobody there. We filled
481
00:28:27.109 --> 00:28:27.410
it up.
482
00:28:29.970 --> 00:28:32.859
Well, good. That's a good thing. And look, I appreciate
483
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.069
you calling and giving me a chance to remind people that, yeah,
484
00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:39.250
it is critical. This is important. And thank you for
485
00:28:39.269 --> 00:28:43.329
the call. We have made, and Jim's making the point here,
486
00:28:43.369 --> 00:28:45.670
he says we've made more progress on gun rights in
487
00:28:45.690 --> 00:28:49.059
the last two years under Trump than we probably made
488
00:28:49.099 --> 00:28:50.819
in the previous hundred years.
489
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Seriously.
490
00:28:54.299 --> 00:29:02.170
I don't like saying this, okay? I would really like
491
00:29:02.190 --> 00:29:04.450
to just be able to pick people and not parties.
492
00:29:06.190 --> 00:29:09.920
But the way everything has evolved, I can't. You do
493
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:11.500
what you got to do, okay? I'm not going to
494
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.339
tell anybody how to vote. I'm just going to tell
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00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:16.880
you what I ended up doing. I just vote red
496
00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:22.380
all the way down because blue is the party of
497
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.910
Chuck Schumer. And I don't, if somebody says, well, you know,
498
00:29:26.049 --> 00:29:29.170
I'm a Democrat, but, you know, I support gun rights. Well,
499
00:29:29.269 --> 00:29:32.339
number one, probably no, you don't. You're posing with a gun.
500
00:29:32.740 --> 00:29:34.319
Or I love it when they say, well, I'm a hunter.
501
00:29:34.779 --> 00:29:38.349
I don't care. That doesn't mean anything to me. But
502
00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:40.119
when you get to Congress, you're going to do what
503
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.180
you're told to do by the party leaders or else.
504
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.539
You don't understand. This is like the mafia. You're going
505
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.019
to do what they tell you to do or else.
506
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.220
And you will vote for gun control laws. Simple as that.
507
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.380
If you're a Democrat. And so I just went down
508
00:29:59.589 --> 00:30:02.049
the ballot, and I just found all the Rs and
509
00:30:02.089 --> 00:30:06.450
I pulled all the levers. I wish we weren't at
510
00:30:06.569 --> 00:30:10.750
this point, but we are at this point. And to
511
00:30:10.789 --> 00:30:14.809
pretend we're not is to be naive and childish about
512
00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.589
the whole thing. And yeah, it is critical. And you
513
00:30:18.609 --> 00:30:20.150
may say, well, you know, it doesn't really matter who
514
00:30:20.170 --> 00:30:25.000
I am. Yeah, it really does. They're counting votes, they're
515
00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:29.619
counting turnout. It really does. And whether you think it
516
00:30:29.660 --> 00:30:36.019
matters for the outcome, that's one thing. There's another part
517
00:30:36.059 --> 00:30:38.869
of this, and I don't know how you internalize this.
518
00:30:38.990 --> 00:30:41.109
I have to do it for myself. You've got to
519
00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:46.109
figure it out for you. For me, it's part of
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00:30:46.170 --> 00:30:48.269
figuring out who I am, who I want to be,
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00:30:48.589 --> 00:30:51.890
who I want to appear to be, what I'm all about.
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00:30:53.789 --> 00:30:56.039
Do I show up and support what I say I
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00:30:56.380 --> 00:31:00.119
believe in? And for me, just individually, just for Tom,
524
00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:06.759
that's important. When I look in the mirror, I don't
525
00:31:06.779 --> 00:31:08.609
want to see the guy who said, you know, I
526
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.109
meant to vote, but I got sidetracked. We had this
527
00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:14.869
thing happen. We had that thing happen. And, you know,
528
00:31:14.890 --> 00:31:24.230
one vote doesn't matter. Yeah. One Senate seat matters. One
529
00:31:24.289 --> 00:31:28.019
state matters. One district matters. One precinct matters. One vote matters.
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00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:34.079
It matters. Again, can't tell you what to do. Wouldn't
531
00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:36.740
ever tell you, you know, not my thing. I'm just
532
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:37.740
going to tell you what I do. I'm going to
533
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.789
tell you what I think is important. You got to
534
00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:46.690
figure it out from there. Oh, I was talking to
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00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:51.359
a buddy of mine, sheriff's deputy for 35 years, something
536
00:31:51.380 --> 00:31:55.640
like that. They issue ammunition and he uses it in
537
00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:58.920
his Glock 17. It works great. Never any problems with it.
538
00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:03.700
And then he was off duty carrying his Glock 26.
539
00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:07.630
Should work just fine. Same ammo. He'd been carrying it
540
00:32:07.650 --> 00:32:10.609
for a while and then went to shoot it. He
541
00:32:10.650 --> 00:32:12.849
said he couldn't get more than two rounds without a jam.
542
00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:18.690
The exact same ammo that is flawless in his full-size
543
00:32:18.710 --> 00:32:23.759
Glock 17. would not function in his 26. Now, it's
544
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.400
plus P. It's pure. It's stout stuff. It's law enforcement only.
545
00:32:29.940 --> 00:32:33.859
And maybe he needs a different spring. I don't know.
546
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.359
He'll figure that out. The takeaway, though, for him was
547
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:42.700
he said he was mad. And, yeah, you're mad at
548
00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:45.289
your gun. You're mad at the ammo. But I told him,
549
00:32:45.309 --> 00:32:46.789
I said, you're not really mad at them. You're mad
550
00:32:46.809 --> 00:32:49.839
at yourself, aren't you? He said, yeah. He said, I
551
00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:54.920
was carrying this gun with essentially non-functioning ammo. And I
552
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.630
didn't check it out. And I know better. Whatever your
553
00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:04.549
gun is, these are two Glocks. You'd think, well, sure,
554
00:33:04.569 --> 00:33:06.049
they're going to use the same ammo and function.
555
00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:06.809
Nope.
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00:33:08.890 --> 00:33:12.390
Whatever your gun is, you must go try it with
557
00:33:12.410 --> 00:33:15.500
the ammo you're carrying. So he went to the store.
558
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.140
He said, hey, what do I need? Talked to a
559
00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:19.980
buddy of his that had the gun store. The guy said, look,
560
00:33:20.009 --> 00:33:23.349
the Hornady ammo works great. Everybody likes it. It's dependable.
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00:33:23.430 --> 00:33:26.410
So he got Hornady ammo. He said, man, that's expensive.
562
00:33:26.470 --> 00:33:31.710
I said, yep, about 35 bucks for 20 rounds. But
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00:33:31.750 --> 00:33:34.710
you don't want to be the guy who walks in
564
00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:40.759
and says, I want the discount parachute. Because that's what
565
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.619
your carry gun is, isn't it? It's the parachute in
566
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.799
case the airplane is on fire and you've got to
567
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.829
get out. And everything has gone wrong. And somebody is
568
00:33:50.869 --> 00:33:57.990
trying to end your life. You need to, whatever the
569
00:33:58.029 --> 00:34:00.309
ammo is you're going to carry, run it through the gun.
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00:34:00.410 --> 00:34:03.250
And if there's any issue at all, go find some
571
00:34:03.289 --> 00:34:05.910
different ammo and run that through the gun. And if
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00:34:05.950 --> 00:34:07.960
you get to the third type of ammo and it
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00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.039
won't run reliably and feed without any stoppages at all,
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00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.210
then you got a gun problem. But your gun problem,
575
00:34:16.329 --> 00:34:18.449
and he swapped out mags. He did all the stuff
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00:34:18.469 --> 00:34:21.570
we would do. He said, yo, it's the ammo, definitely
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00:34:21.590 --> 00:34:28.119
the ammo. Try different mags. With something like a Glock 26,
578
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.400
it's very small, it's very light. One of the things
579
00:34:31.420 --> 00:34:33.679
you have to do, I'm just kind of telling you this,
580
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.920
because we like to shoot our full-size guns at the range,
581
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.739
and then we like to carry our little guns because
582
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.980
they're easy to carry. It's incredibly easy to induce malfunction
583
00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:48.300
with a little gun if you're not putting enough resistance
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00:34:48.380 --> 00:34:51.719
behind it. Here's what happens. Here's the physics. With a
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00:34:51.739 --> 00:34:55.260
little lightweight gun, there's not much mass, and the slide
586
00:34:55.300 --> 00:34:59.559
needs to move backwards against the frame. If the frame
587
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:03.019
moves backwards when the gun is fired, that is, your hand,
588
00:35:03.219 --> 00:35:04.739
you don't have a good grip on it, you're not
589
00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:08.300
locked out, and everything moves backwards a little bit, that
590
00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:12.099
rearward movement of the gun is absorbing some of the energy.
591
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.639
from the cartridge going off, energy that is necessary to
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00:35:16.699 --> 00:35:20.670
run the slide back. If you are sucking some of
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00:35:20.710 --> 00:35:23.769
that energy out by letting the gun move, then there's
594
00:35:23.809 --> 00:35:25.969
not enough energy to run the slide because you have
595
00:35:25.989 --> 00:35:29.590
to have a pretty stiff spring on a little gun
596
00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:33.510
because the slide travel isn't as far. So the spring's
597
00:35:33.530 --> 00:35:36.320
got to be strong. So you need to grip it
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00:35:37.139 --> 00:35:40.719
And lean in and get your nose over your toes.
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00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:46.019
Lock your hands, your arms out. Grip this thing like
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00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.059
somebody's going to try to rip it out of your hands.
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00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:52.960
And a lot of times you will find that your
602
00:35:53.059 --> 00:35:56.860
malfunctions with your little guns will clear up when you
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00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.039
start holding it strong and getting a good grip on it.
604
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.539
When SIG introduced the P365, they had a lot of
605
00:36:04.579 --> 00:36:07.679
calls from people who said this thing isn't working. It's jamming.
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00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:10.920
And they had to do a lot of education for
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00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:12.820
people because it was kind of the first of the
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00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:17.860
micro nines and people didn't understand the physics of it
609
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.539
and the need to have a strong grip and give
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00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:23.500
that gun a lot of resistance. You essentially need to
611
00:36:23.579 --> 00:36:28.059
keep the grip, the frame from moving to let the
612
00:36:28.219 --> 00:36:33.460
slide move backwards over the frame. And it's that movement
613
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.820
of the slide coming back and slamming and going forward
614
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.860
and ripping that next shell out of the magazine that
615
00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:42.650
makes it work. If you don't have a, and I'm
616
00:36:42.690 --> 00:36:45.670
talking about a really tight grip. I'm talking about a
617
00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:49.670
white knuckle grip. And there will be people who say, well, yeah,
618
00:36:49.690 --> 00:36:51.090
it messes up your trigger finger.
619
00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:52.090
Baloney.
620
00:36:52.610 --> 00:36:56.659
It does not. It should not. You must grip your
621
00:36:56.820 --> 00:37:02.090
semi-automatic pistol really strongly. you will be able to not
622
00:37:02.150 --> 00:37:05.460
only make sure that it functions, but you will be
623
00:37:05.659 --> 00:37:09.219
faster in your follow-up shots. The barrel rise is going
624
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.159
to be reduced. The recoil is reduced. And instead of
625
00:37:13.219 --> 00:37:16.170
seeing the sight picture where the gun comes out of
626
00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:18.530
your sight picture and then comes back down into it,
627
00:37:19.340 --> 00:37:21.519
When you fire, if you've got a really strong grip,
628
00:37:21.940 --> 00:37:24.539
you'll see the front sight move up slightly and then
629
00:37:24.579 --> 00:37:27.059
just come back. It's almost like we call it dancing.
630
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.639
The front sight's just dancing on the target when you're
631
00:37:29.659 --> 00:37:32.760
going bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Instead of it flying
632
00:37:32.900 --> 00:37:34.599
out of your picture coming back down, you've got to
633
00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:37.840
come back onto the target. It is the way that
634
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:43.340
speed shooters work. They all have an incredibly strong grip
635
00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:46.909
on the gun to control the recoil. It's as simple
636
00:37:46.949 --> 00:37:50.949
as that. So there you go. Jim, I don't think
637
00:37:50.969 --> 00:37:52.809
we've got time to get John in right now, do we?
638
00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:55.860
I don't think so. John, don't go anywhere. We're going
639
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.000
to get to you, okay? I don't want to get
640
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:00.480
you in and then have to cut you off, and
641
00:38:00.500 --> 00:38:01.900
I apologize for that, but we're going to get to
642
00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:05.820
you after this next break. But, yeah, if you're carrying
643
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.820
a small gun, two things. One is make sure– well,
644
00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:11.719
any gun you're carrying, make sure that your carry ammo
645
00:38:11.820 --> 00:38:15.730
you have actually run– I don't know, minimum of two
646
00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:18.659
magazines through. I mean, I would want to run 500
647
00:38:18.659 --> 00:38:21.300
rounds of ball through any carry gun I have just
648
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.800
to make sure it's broken in. But then I want
649
00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:26.539
to run at least two magazines of the very expensive
650
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.400
carry ammo just to make sure that it will function.
651
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.539
And the other is if you are carrying a small gun,
652
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.820
you know, a Hellcat, a 365, a Glock 26, a Bodyguard,
653
00:38:37.860 --> 00:38:41.369
any of these, you need to really work on your
654
00:38:41.429 --> 00:38:45.460
technique to grip it as hard as you can, lock
655
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.780
your arms out, lean forward so your body position is
656
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.030
actually leaning into the gun so when it's going off,
657
00:38:55.070 --> 00:38:57.829
your body is not moving back at all. Your arms
658
00:38:57.869 --> 00:39:03.349
are not flexing at all. And the gun almost doesn't
659
00:39:03.409 --> 00:39:09.320
move at all. There's a really decent chance If you're
660
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.489
having trouble with your small gun functioning, you're getting failures
661
00:39:12.530 --> 00:39:15.710
to feed, failures to eject, whatever, that you can actually
662
00:39:16.230 --> 00:39:21.440
fix the gun. You fix your gun by actually fixing
663
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.739
the way you're holding it and the way you're shooting.
664
00:39:24.019 --> 00:39:27.219
Imagine that technique. It really matters.
665
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:32.860
All right.
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00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:35.440
We're with you again. Let's go talk to John. He's
667
00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:38.360
in Boise, Idaho. Hello, John. You're on Gun Talk. What's
668
00:39:38.380 --> 00:39:40.659
going on? Hey, Tom.
669
00:39:40.699 --> 00:39:42.639
I need your help. I inherited a 1927 Winchester Model
670
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:51.510
55 nickel steel lever action 30-30 takedown model. And it's in,
671
00:39:51.530 --> 00:39:56.800
I don't know, I'm kind of a gun novice. This
672
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.380
is exactly my second gun that I inherited. And so
673
00:40:00.820 --> 00:40:04.500
it needs, I don't want to shoot it because it's been,
674
00:40:04.579 --> 00:40:07.099
it was like hanging on a mantle and the takedown
675
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:11.929
mechanism looks to be either cross-threaded or forced or peened over.
676
00:40:12.769 --> 00:40:15.090
And I just need, from what I can tell online,
677
00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:18.170
it needs like a specialist gunsmith to go over it
678
00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:20.389
and make sure, you know, that the headspace is right
679
00:40:20.449 --> 00:40:22.699
and it's safe and all that. I don't want a restoration.
680
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:24.880
I just need someone to go over it. It's got
681
00:40:24.940 --> 00:40:29.179
some screws. And what I'm reading is I should send
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00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.320
it somewhere, and I don't know how to send it
683
00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:33.119
or who to send it to. So that's where I'm at.
684
00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:34.639
Okay.
685
00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:38.650
I got a thought for you. You're in Boise. And
686
00:40:38.710 --> 00:40:44.300
the Boise Gun Club... has, they hold events for the
687
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.070
Single Action Shooting Society, the SAS, Cowboy Action Guys. So
688
00:40:49.130 --> 00:40:53.909
these folks really know those guns. And I would think,
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00:40:54.730 --> 00:40:57.110
the problem is I don't know a gunsmith to send
690
00:40:57.130 --> 00:40:59.670
you to because I don't know who's available down there.
691
00:40:59.690 --> 00:41:03.460
But these guys do. They're the lever action folks, the
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00:41:03.500 --> 00:41:06.820
Single Action Shooting Society. And if you contact the Boise
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00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.679
Gun Club and say, look, you know, who, Did you
694
00:41:09.739 --> 00:41:12.079
do this? Who would you take this gun to? They're
695
00:41:12.099 --> 00:41:14.440
going to say, oh, yeah, that's Joe. You want Joe
696
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.849
over there because he is the lever action guy or
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00:41:16.929 --> 00:41:20.590
whoever it is. That would be a little bit roundabout
698
00:41:20.650 --> 00:41:22.909
way to get you there. But I think it's going
699
00:41:22.929 --> 00:41:24.809
to be the best way for you to find the
700
00:41:24.909 --> 00:41:28.250
best person who's local to you. Okay.
701
00:41:29.219 --> 00:41:31.260
I mean, local is always better. I like to support
702
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.719
local folks and not have to ship and deal with
703
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.400
all those headaches. So I'm happy to do a little
704
00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:38.920
bit of legwork and homework and get it. I just
705
00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:40.630
want to get it safe so I can actually shoot it.
706
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.469
I mean, it's a great-looking gun. It's in great shape.
707
00:41:43.530 --> 00:41:44.849
It just needs some TLC.
708
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Yeah, it's a piece of history. Yeah, so Boise Gun Club,
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try them. And look, here's the thing. If they say, look,
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there's really nobody here, but this is who everybody sends
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them to, then they'll tell you who to send it to.
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So either way, I think you're going to get the
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info you're looking for.
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Okay, excellent. Appreciate you, Tom.
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Thanks.
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Appreciate you. Take care. Yeah, cool. Piece of history. What
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fun stuff, right? This is amazing stuff. Let's see. Jerry,
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we're going to have to hold you over. I'm afraid
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I have run this segment a little bit too long.
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We'll get you back and make sure we'll talk about
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scope mounting. Also, I want to talk, and we'll get
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to this in the next segment, the whole idea of
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cartridges and calibers. They're not the same. We use the
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terms interchangeably, so that's a What caliber is your pistol? Well,
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it's a. 38 caliber. Well, that's true, but what you're
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really asking is what cartridge does it shoot? Oh, what's
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the difference? Well, we'll talk about that. Also talk about
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what's really important. You've heard me say this before. In
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virtually everything, we worry about the wrong thing. That is
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especially true when it comes to self-defense and self-defense guns.
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We obsess about cartridges and calibers and actions and barrel
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links and this and that and the other. And can
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I just tell you, we're probably really going about this wrong.
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We're worried about the wrong things again, because we do. Well, frankly,
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hardware is a lot easier to work on than software,
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which is the us problem. Not the it problem. We'll
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talk about that. But also we kind of go through
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some basics of cartridges, calibers, you know, what's a 9,
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what's a 10, what's a 40, what's a 45, all
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the rest of that. We'll do a little bit of that.
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And if you have some thoughts on that, like which
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is better, which do you have, which do you like,
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are there any that you hate? Did you say, I'm
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glad I got rid of that sucker. Yeah, I got
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one or two of those too. Give me a call
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at TomTalkGuns. I'm Tom Gresham. We'll be right back with
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at TomTalkGun. That'll get you in. revolvers, pistols, rifles, shotguns,
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doesn't matter, whatever you want to talk about, or just
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sharing stories. It's all good. Michael called in out of
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North Carolina. Hey, Michael, thank you for your patience. You
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have made it out of the air. What's on your mind, sir?
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I waited too long to say might as well, and
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I know better. Uh-oh. Yeah, a gun store had an
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email of a Taurus 327 Federal Snubby And I glanced
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at it and said, I'll click that in a minute.
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It was on sale, used for $ 299, and of course
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it was gone. And that was Michelle and I were,
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of course, talking about, you know, shoot, because Roy Huntington,
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one of my fun guests you've had, has talked about using,
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you know, 32 H & R, you know, for the
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lower blast and recoil and such. which always makes me
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think of Jeff Quinn, who used to say, people don't
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care if people don't want you making holes in them
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and they don't much care how small that hole is.
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People don't like it when you start putting holes in them.
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It changes their behavior and that's the whole idea. And so, yeah,
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whatever you got, you use it.
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So, all right.
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So you missed out on this revolver. What are you
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going to do now?
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Well, It's all that thing where I really didn't need
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to buy another one, but, you know, who cares? So
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I'll probably keep looking because, you know, maybe I can
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find another one because that's as far as that caliber
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is one I don't have. I've got two or three 327. But, yeah,
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I guess I'll keep looking and start paying more attention
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and clicking on stuff quicker. You know, because I've carried a.
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22 LCR before in a pocket just because, you know,
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it's still a gun. And if you have to, in
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the rare event you have to point it at somebody,
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they're probably not going to notice it's a.
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22.
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You know, Michael, I think that you've got to work
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on your click draw.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Oh, one other thing, Michael. I'm sure you know this,
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but just in case. Putting it in the cart does
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not mean you have locked it up. Until you've purchased it,
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somebody else can still go and buy it. So you've
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got to put it in the cart and complete the
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purchase immediately. Even if you're thinking, well, I'm going to
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add some more things to it. Fine. Put a second
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order in. Grab it and buy it right now.
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Exactly.
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Do it now. I listened to part of your advice.
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I said, might as well, but I didn't do it
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quick enough.
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Okay. All right, well, thanks for sharing your story of woe.
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I appreciate you giving us a chance to remind everybody
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about that. Thanks, Michael. Thanks for the call. All right,
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let's go over something here. There are seven days in
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the week. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You
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know what's not in there?
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Someday.
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Someday. Someday is not a day. It's part of the week.
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Someday doesn't get here. I'm going to do that someday.
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I always wanted to go take that class at that
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place someday. I cannot tell you in the 42 years, yeah,
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that I've been flying, how many people have told me,
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you know, I've always wanted to learn to fly. I'll
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do that someday. I keep looking at the calendar, and
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I just don't see someday on there. If it's something
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you really want to do, there's a phrase used a
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lot these days, and at first I really didn't get it.
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And I have learned to understand it, and that is
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the word intentional. You have to be intentional. Intentional. which
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means you have to have a reason and then you
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have to actually follow through. A sense of urgency is
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another way to put it, of saying, you know, if
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I'm going to make that happen someday, I better do
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something about that today and start down the road. And
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you may say, well, it may be a year before
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we get there. Yeah, but you know what? It's going
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to be a year from when you start. And if
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you don't start for another year, then it's going to
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be two years from now. Just one of those things,
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and we've all done it. I'm as guilty as anybody
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else to say, you know, one of these days I'm
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going to do that. Yeah, you know what? Here's what happens.
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Let me just tell you from the perspective of looking
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in the rearview mirror. I got a lot more in
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the rearview mirror than I got ahead of me these days.
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And that is those, I'm going to do that someday,
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get away, they get away from you. And some of
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them you never get to. Now, I am saying yes
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to a lot of things. I've always said yes to
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a lot of things, actually. I may have shared with you,
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that is one of our family mottos. We raised our
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kids on this. If somebody asks if you can do something,
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always say yes. Why would you do that? Even if
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you've never done it before. And what I tell them,
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what I've always told them, and they've both become very successful,
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I think partly as a result of that, is look,
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you're smart. And you could learn to do anything. And
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by saying yes, you can go learn how to do it.
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And if they say, well, could you do this? You go, yes.
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You say, I've never done it before, but yes, I
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can do that. And then you go learn how. It's
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amazing what you can learn to do when you have
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that attitude of yes. The other side of that is
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that we've all known people like this who always say
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you know. They're the ones who try to put a
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stop to everything. Well, we can't do that because. Oh, no,
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we can't do that. No, no, no. I want to
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be around the people who say yes. I don't know
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how we're going to do it, but we're going to
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make it happen. Let's see. Let's go talk to Gary
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of Hot Springs, Virginia on one. Hey, Gary, thanks for
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calling in. What's up?
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Hey, it's Gary here, and it's Hot Springs Village, Arkansas,
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not Virginia, but that's okay. Maybe they have one there.
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Oh, well, so I screwed that up.
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Well, That's okay. I was listening to you last Sunday,
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and your conversation was on training and target practice and
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training on a regular basis. And I wanted to bring
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up that you might want to share with your listeners
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what they call the MILO, M-I-L-O. I'm not sure exactly
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what MILO stands for, but it is, for instance, here
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in the village at the Police Department Training Center, It's
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a 12 or 14-foot screen on the wall, and you
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use laser guns that are similar to, let's say, a
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Glock 19, and they put up real-life situations on the screen. Well,
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they can do caricature types. They can do target practicing,
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but they put up real-life situations. It's like real video.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're walking down the street, and let's say somebody's coming
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at you with a knife. How do you handle that
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situation to the point where you either turn around and
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walk away from the situation, or it gets to the
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point where you think you have to draw your weapon?
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And how do you handle getting to that point? What's
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your thought process? How do you assess the actual threat
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from this person? Is he actually coming at you or
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is he standing still? And at what point do you
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decide that you may have to fire your weapon?
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Gary, let me jump in here, Gary, because I know
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people are thinking, well, yeah, but is that going to
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teach you to shoot? That's not what it's for. This
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is not about learning to shoot. It's learning how to
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think and to use your eyes and see what's going on.
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And you look at the threat. Okay, what's going on
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behind the threat? Is there somebody back there? Is there
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a buddy back there? What's actually going on? Sweeping your eyes,
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looking at things, making decisions.
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And if you do decide you have to pull the trigger,
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it shows you whether you hit him, where your shot went,
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whether you hit him and he went down or what.
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It is the.
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Best real life situation that After you've done it and
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you really get to assess your thought process, how you
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communicate to the threat, what decisions you have to make
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and how quickly and all that stuff. You could be
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in a, it'll simulate being in a store and someone
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pulls a gun out. You have to decide whether to
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get involved or not.
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Gary, I take it you've done this, right?
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I have done it. And I am so thankful that
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I did because when I'm out and about, whether I'm
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alone or with my wife, and when I'm carrying, I'm
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always thinking about those things that I went through and
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how I handled them. It just simulates the real-life situation
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like you cannot get on any training range or target
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shooting range.
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That's where I wanted to go with you, because there
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are people who are thinking, yeah, well, it doesn't really
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simulate it. It is the weirdest thing, and there are
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different programs. They have FATS program, they have Milo, they
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have some others. When you do this, at first it
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feels like, okay, we're going to go do this exercise.
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In about seven seconds... You are mentally in that scenario.
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It feels very real to you. Your heart rate goes up.
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Your breathing increases. I mean, it puts stress on you
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even though you're just looking at a screen, doesn't it?
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Yes, it does.
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It does.
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And once you've done it, at least even if you
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just shot the first scenario and you're going into another one,
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You learn every time you do it what to say,
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how to think, how to react, whether to just put
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your hand on your weapon to be ready, whether or
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not you need to pull your weapon and be ready
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to pull the trigger. And win.
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Yes.
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What to do and win. Look, Gary, I've got to
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run here. I want to thank you. This is great
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bringing this up. There's a lot of emphasis these days
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on shooting fast. And I like the phrase that we
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had from a guest recently says, you know, we're training
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people to shoot faster than they can think. And that's
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where this simulator training comes in, because it helps you
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to think, understand what's going on, to analyze and realizing
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that there are certainly there are situations where you need
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to draw and shoot fast. But those are the minority.
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Mostly you need to see what's going on and figure
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going to do around here? I'm Tom Gresham. Give me
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a call at TomTalkGun. David called in. He's on line
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five out of Oregon, I believe that is. Hey, David, welcome.
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Yes, sir.
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How are you doing, Tom?
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I am well. What's on your mind?
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Well, we were.
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Talking about self-defense and self-defense rounds and firearms. I have
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to say, I've played with the Judge with double-odd and a.
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410 shell, and I used to have that by the
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bed stand. But over time, I've gone back to the original, the.
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45 1911.
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Okay.
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I don't really see any reason to change. It's got
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the power to stop anything that's going to threaten you.
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What do they say? Yeah, what do they say? It's
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won 11 wars. So there you go.
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You can't beat it, sir. I mean, it's there, it's reliable,
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it's proven, and there's just no replacing it.
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I agree. I love the 1911. Now, is yours in a.
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45 or a. 9?
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It's.
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45, sir. All right. I don't believe the 9mm cartridge
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lives up to the Stocker's Tower of the.
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45.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And you had something else on your mind, I believe.
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Yes, sir.
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I had a range report on a Mossberg Patriot 270
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with a Vortex.
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With a Vortex, oh, shoot, now I can't remember the
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name of the scope. But anyways, 200 yards out after
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an initial breaking period, it's dead on accurate. And for
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the price, I can't think of a better starting deer
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rifle for anybody than that Mossberg along with that Vortex I8.
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The Mossberg Patriot is one of those sleepers that just
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doesn't get a lot of play, doesn't get a lot
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of attention, but it just is a good, accurate, reliable rifle.
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It really is. It has that fluted barrel, so I
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was a little concerned about, you know, in the cold,
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maybe a little bit of warpage from heat. But, you know,
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you're not putting a bunch of rounds through it.
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You're hunting.
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Exactly. You're hunting and you're eating.
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If you get to six shots with it, something has
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gone really wrong.
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You might need to read and adjust your scope.
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Yes, exactly. It's time to stop and go back and
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figure out what's going on here.
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Yeah, exactly, sir. So anyways, that's all I had. I
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just wanted to report in on the 1911. I don't
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think there's a adequate replacement for it yet. And, uh,
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That Mossberg Patriot with the Vortex scope is unbeatable in
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my book for the money.
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Sounds good. Appreciate the call. Yeah, the 1911, still doing
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what it's doing. I made the joke about, you know,
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11 wars because I can't remember. Was it Ilya Omar's readings?
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No, no.
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I think, reading something about, and her script said World
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War II, you know, aye, aye. She read it as
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World War XI. It's like, wow, how divorced can you
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be from reality?
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Oh, well.
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We know, we know, but so that's the common deal
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now is that 1911 has been used in 11 world wars.
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Oh, well.
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There are excellent pistols out there. A lot of them
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are a lot more modern, have a lot of great features,
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and yet people still love the 1911. When I was
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having my conversation with that young lady yesterday who I
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met out in the middle of nowhere, And she's carrying
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an M & P 10 millimeter in her chest rig.
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At no point was she ever aware, because I was
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wearing an insulated vest, that underneath that, at the 330
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position on my belt, was a 1911 in. 45. Yep.
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Commander size. Still got nine rounds of. 45 in it.
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And I had eight rounds of. 45 in the magazine
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that was on my belt, my backup mag. Kind of
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an older 1911. This is a Smith & Wesson that
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they made in scandium. So it's a lightweight alloy, aluminum
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alloy with scandium mixed in to make it stronger. Very
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nice pistols. I would not want to take a class
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and shoot several hundred rounds through it because the lightweight
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makes for more recoil. But the lightweight also makes it
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a lot easier to carry. And it's easier on your back.
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And for the amount of shooting you're going to do
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in a self-defense situation, you won't know the difference. You
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won't care. So that's kind of where I am there.
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And I have full-size steel guns I can use at
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the range. And then I can carry the lightweight ones.
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So that just works. Why do we like the 1911? Well,
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I think two primary reasons. One is the trigger. That's
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the one we always talk about because the triggers are very,
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very good. But the others, they tend to be slim.
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The grips are slim. It's a single stack, of course.
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And it fits a lot of hands. Having said that,
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there are some really great double stack pistols out there.
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There are even some really good single stack. 45s out
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there that are more modern. Which one you like, truthfully,
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doesn't really matter. The main thing is that you learn
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to use it. Get good ammo. Buy a lot of magazines.
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By a lot, I mean a dozen or more. Yes, yes,
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you need that many. And then just go out and
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shoot the heck out of it and make it part
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of what you do every single day. Don't leave home
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without it. You know, these breaks we take during the
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show are not good for me. Gives me a chance
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to go online and shop. Yeah, yeah, you can imagine
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where I'm shopping. Okay. I'm going to introduce a new
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acronym for you today. ABBA. And we're not talking about
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the group that does Dancing Queen. A-B-B-A. Always Be Buying Ammo. ABBA.
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Right now we got a midterm election coming up. Don't
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know which way it's going to go. Don't know which
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way the wind's going to blow. There is a possibility
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that Not trying to fearmonger, just telling you. Possibility that
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something happens and people get a little bit spooked and
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panicky and prices go up. It happens. Prices go up,
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prices go down. If you're always buying ammo, I had
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somebody just say recently, yeah, every time I get a paycheck,
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I go out and buy a box of ammo. He says,
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after a while, it adds up. Yes, it does. That's
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the whole idea behind it. You don't have to be
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buying a case at a time. You can buy a
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little bit at a time. But you need to be buying.
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Always be buying ammo. There you go. Let's go to
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line three. Mark is with us out of Illinois. Hey, Mark,
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you made it. What's on your mind?
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Yeah, a while back I picked up a used stainless
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Taurus 605. It's five-shot, two-inch barrel. The grip on the back...
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has exposed metal from the handle, and then it looks
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like there's a Hogue grip on it that's got the
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screw on the bottom rather than on the side. I
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haven't shot anything plus P in it. Everything I've shot
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in here has been... I've shot 130 grain standard metal
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case bullets in it, and I've shot some... lightweight, non-plus P110,
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and everything, no matter what you're shooting here, the thing
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just digs into my hand really good and hard. I
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didn't think that the difference in a two-inch shorter barrel
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would make that big of a difference in recoil. Now,
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as far as I can tell, this gun is completely
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stainless steel. I was wondering if maybe because it looks
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like Maybe there's a barrel sleeve inside of it.
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It is a stainless steel gun.
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Hello?
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It's a stainless steel gun. You've got to give me
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a chance to get in now and then, okay?
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, this is a stainless steel revolver, and yes, a
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magnet may stick to it because magnets do stick to
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some kinds of stainless steel, so that doesn't mean it's
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not stainless steel. But to your point, yeah, a 2-inch.
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38 or. 357 revolver kicks a lot. It's just the
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nature of the beast. Let me offer a thought here.
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One of the things I am seeing now from people
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who I really respect, who really teach self-defense, and they
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specialize in revolvers, and on their 38s, they are now,
435
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for personal defense, carrying hard-cast lead wad cutter loads. About
436
00:26:11.869 --> 00:26:15.690
800 feet per second. Nothing fast, nothing plus P. They're
437
00:26:15.730 --> 00:26:18.940
just punching holes through whatever the target is or the
438
00:26:18.980 --> 00:26:23.220
thread is. And the recoil is much lighter. And I
439
00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:25.579
just thought that was a really interesting development. What do
440
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:25.920
you think?
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00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:30.460
Okay. See, my thought was, is there a way I
442
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.329
can get a grip that has rubber in the back?
443
00:26:34.349 --> 00:26:37.569
Because I'm thinking this rubber grip is a hoe grip
444
00:26:37.609 --> 00:26:39.190
because the screw is on the bottom.
445
00:26:40.819 --> 00:26:44.839
I would think so. No, I would think so. I
446
00:26:44.859 --> 00:26:47.599
would think you could find some kind of a grip
447
00:26:47.619 --> 00:26:49.640
for this. I haven't looked it up, but all you
448
00:26:49.660 --> 00:26:51.119
got to do is just do an Internet search for
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00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:54.190
a grip for Taurus 605 and see what comes up.
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00:26:54.410 --> 00:26:56.349
I got to keep moving. We're getting them stacked up now. And, look,
451
00:26:56.369 --> 00:26:58.730
I appreciate the call, sir. Let me go grab Joe
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00:26:58.890 --> 00:27:01.930
out of Jefferson, Texas, on two. Hey, Joe, you're on
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Gun Talk, and I know what you want to talk about.
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00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:08.980
Yes, sir. I want to encourage everybody to get out
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and vote. If you don't protect your Second Amendment rights,
456
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you're not going to have the power to protect any.
457
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Of your other rights.
458
00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:21.099
Well, that's true. And there's a whole lot else that
459
00:27:21.140 --> 00:27:24.829
goes with this vote on Tuesday. And a lot of people,
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00:27:24.849 --> 00:27:26.970
of course, have already voted. They did early voting, which
461
00:27:27.049 --> 00:27:29.890
is great. But if you didn't, you just got to
462
00:27:29.910 --> 00:27:31.390
make it a point. You go, yeah, I'm busy. I
463
00:27:31.430 --> 00:27:34.430
got this. I got that going. No, I'm sorry. No excuses.
464
00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:36.950
This is one of those no excuses deal. This one
465
00:27:37.009 --> 00:27:40.650
is really important. And we have seen how crazy the
466
00:27:40.690 --> 00:27:44.049
left has gotten. I mean, really crazy to the point
467
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where they're actually openly saying, we know they're willing to
468
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:51.720
shoot us because they shot Donald Trump. And they tried
469
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.039
to shoot him again and tried to shoot him again
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00:27:54.059 --> 00:27:58.410
after they shot him the first time. They are crazy.
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And we simply, I mean, There's no excuse. You've got
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to get to the polls. You've got to vote. Joe,
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00:28:06.970 --> 00:28:08.950
I'm also thinking that maybe one way to go is
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to contact a bunch of your friends and get them
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to go with you. Just make it a thing. We're
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00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:15.319
all going to go vote together. Then we're going to
477
00:28:15.339 --> 00:28:16.700
go out to lunch together. What do you think?
478
00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:21.619
Everybody that I know, we all piled up together. There
479
00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:24.559
was about eight of us. And when we walked into
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00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.069
our little polling place, there was nobody there. We filled
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00:28:27.109 --> 00:28:27.410
it up.
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00:28:29.970 --> 00:28:32.859
Well, good. That's a good thing. And look, I appreciate
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you calling and giving me a chance to remind people that, yeah,
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00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:39.250
it is critical. This is important. And thank you for
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the call. We have made, and Jim's making the point here,
486
00:28:43.369 --> 00:28:45.670
he says we've made more progress on gun rights in
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00:28:45.690 --> 00:28:49.059
the last two years under Trump than we probably made
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in the previous hundred years.
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Seriously.
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I don't like saying this, okay? I would really like
491
00:29:02.190 --> 00:29:04.450
to just be able to pick people and not parties.
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00:29:06.190 --> 00:29:09.920
But the way everything has evolved, I can't. You do
493
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:11.500
what you got to do, okay? I'm not going to
494
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.339
tell anybody how to vote. I'm just going to tell
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00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:16.880
you what I ended up doing. I just vote red
496
00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:22.380
all the way down because blue is the party of
497
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.910
Chuck Schumer. And I don't, if somebody says, well, you know,
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00:29:26.049 --> 00:29:29.170
I'm a Democrat, but, you know, I support gun rights. Well,
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number one, probably no, you don't. You're posing with a gun.
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Or I love it when they say, well, I'm a hunter.
501
00:29:34.779 --> 00:29:38.349
I don't care. That doesn't mean anything to me. But
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00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:40.119
when you get to Congress, you're going to do what
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00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.180
you're told to do by the party leaders or else.
504
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.539
You don't understand. This is like the mafia. You're going
505
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.019
to do what they tell you to do or else.
506
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.220
And you will vote for gun control laws. Simple as that.
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00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.380
If you're a Democrat. And so I just went down
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00:29:59.589 --> 00:30:02.049
the ballot, and I just found all the Rs and
509
00:30:02.089 --> 00:30:06.450
I pulled all the levers. I wish we weren't at
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00:30:06.569 --> 00:30:10.750
this point, but we are at this point. And to
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00:30:10.789 --> 00:30:14.809
pretend we're not is to be naive and childish about
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00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.589
the whole thing. And yeah, it is critical. And you
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00:30:18.609 --> 00:30:20.150
may say, well, you know, it doesn't really matter who
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00:30:20.170 --> 00:30:25.000
I am. Yeah, it really does. They're counting votes, they're
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00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:29.619
counting turnout. It really does. And whether you think it
516
00:30:29.660 --> 00:30:36.019
matters for the outcome, that's one thing. There's another part
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00:30:36.059 --> 00:30:38.869
of this, and I don't know how you internalize this.
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00:30:38.990 --> 00:30:41.109
I have to do it for myself. You've got to
519
00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:46.109
figure it out for you. For me, it's part of
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00:30:46.170 --> 00:30:48.269
figuring out who I am, who I want to be,
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00:30:48.589 --> 00:30:51.890
who I want to appear to be, what I'm all about.
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00:30:53.789 --> 00:30:56.039
Do I show up and support what I say I
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00:30:56.380 --> 00:31:00.119
believe in? And for me, just individually, just for Tom,
524
00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:06.759
that's important. When I look in the mirror, I don't
525
00:31:06.779 --> 00:31:08.609
want to see the guy who said, you know, I
526
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.109
meant to vote, but I got sidetracked. We had this
527
00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:14.869
thing happen. We had that thing happen. And, you know,
528
00:31:14.890 --> 00:31:24.230
one vote doesn't matter. Yeah. One Senate seat matters. One
529
00:31:24.289 --> 00:31:28.019
state matters. One district matters. One precinct matters. One vote matters.
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00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:34.079
It matters. Again, can't tell you what to do. Wouldn't
531
00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:36.740
ever tell you, you know, not my thing. I'm just
532
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:37.740
going to tell you what I do. I'm going to
533
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.789
tell you what I think is important. You got to
534
00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:46.690
figure it out from there. Oh, I was talking to
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00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:51.359
a buddy of mine, sheriff's deputy for 35 years, something
536
00:31:51.380 --> 00:31:55.640
like that. They issue ammunition and he uses it in
537
00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:58.920
his Glock 17. It works great. Never any problems with it.
538
00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:03.700
And then he was off duty carrying his Glock 26.
539
00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:07.630
Should work just fine. Same ammo. He'd been carrying it
540
00:32:07.650 --> 00:32:10.609
for a while and then went to shoot it. He
541
00:32:10.650 --> 00:32:12.849
said he couldn't get more than two rounds without a jam.
542
00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:18.690
The exact same ammo that is flawless in his full-size
543
00:32:18.710 --> 00:32:23.759
Glock 17. would not function in his 26. Now, it's
544
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.400
plus P. It's pure. It's stout stuff. It's law enforcement only.
545
00:32:29.940 --> 00:32:33.859
And maybe he needs a different spring. I don't know.
546
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.359
He'll figure that out. The takeaway, though, for him was
547
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:42.700
he said he was mad. And, yeah, you're mad at
548
00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:45.289
your gun. You're mad at the ammo. But I told him,
549
00:32:45.309 --> 00:32:46.789
I said, you're not really mad at them. You're mad
550
00:32:46.809 --> 00:32:49.839
at yourself, aren't you? He said, yeah. He said, I
551
00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:54.920
was carrying this gun with essentially non-functioning ammo. And I
552
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.630
didn't check it out. And I know better. Whatever your
553
00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:04.549
gun is, these are two Glocks. You'd think, well, sure,
554
00:33:04.569 --> 00:33:06.049
they're going to use the same ammo and function.
555
00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:06.809
Nope.
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00:33:08.890 --> 00:33:12.390
Whatever your gun is, you must go try it with
557
00:33:12.410 --> 00:33:15.500
the ammo you're carrying. So he went to the store.
558
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.140
He said, hey, what do I need? Talked to a
559
00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:19.980
buddy of his that had the gun store. The guy said, look,
560
00:33:20.009 --> 00:33:23.349
the Hornady ammo works great. Everybody likes it. It's dependable.
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00:33:23.430 --> 00:33:26.410
So he got Hornady ammo. He said, man, that's expensive.
562
00:33:26.470 --> 00:33:31.710
I said, yep, about 35 bucks for 20 rounds. But
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00:33:31.750 --> 00:33:34.710
you don't want to be the guy who walks in
564
00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:40.759
and says, I want the discount parachute. Because that's what
565
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.619
your carry gun is, isn't it? It's the parachute in
566
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.799
case the airplane is on fire and you've got to
567
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.829
get out. And everything has gone wrong. And somebody is
568
00:33:50.869 --> 00:33:57.990
trying to end your life. You need to, whatever the
569
00:33:58.029 --> 00:34:00.309
ammo is you're going to carry, run it through the gun.
570
00:34:00.410 --> 00:34:03.250
And if there's any issue at all, go find some
571
00:34:03.289 --> 00:34:05.910
different ammo and run that through the gun. And if
572
00:34:05.950 --> 00:34:07.960
you get to the third type of ammo and it
573
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.039
won't run reliably and feed without any stoppages at all,
574
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.210
then you got a gun problem. But your gun problem,
575
00:34:16.329 --> 00:34:18.449
and he swapped out mags. He did all the stuff
576
00:34:18.469 --> 00:34:21.570
we would do. He said, yo, it's the ammo, definitely
577
00:34:21.590 --> 00:34:28.119
the ammo. Try different mags. With something like a Glock 26,
578
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.400
it's very small, it's very light. One of the things
579
00:34:31.420 --> 00:34:33.679
you have to do, I'm just kind of telling you this,
580
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.920
because we like to shoot our full-size guns at the range,
581
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.739
and then we like to carry our little guns because
582
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.980
they're easy to carry. It's incredibly easy to induce malfunction
583
00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:48.300
with a little gun if you're not putting enough resistance
584
00:34:48.380 --> 00:34:51.719
behind it. Here's what happens. Here's the physics. With a
585
00:34:51.739 --> 00:34:55.260
little lightweight gun, there's not much mass, and the slide
586
00:34:55.300 --> 00:34:59.559
needs to move backwards against the frame. If the frame
587
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:03.019
moves backwards when the gun is fired, that is, your hand,
588
00:35:03.219 --> 00:35:04.739
you don't have a good grip on it, you're not
589
00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:08.300
locked out, and everything moves backwards a little bit, that
590
00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:12.099
rearward movement of the gun is absorbing some of the energy.
591
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.639
from the cartridge going off, energy that is necessary to
592
00:35:16.699 --> 00:35:20.670
run the slide back. If you are sucking some of
593
00:35:20.710 --> 00:35:23.769
that energy out by letting the gun move, then there's
594
00:35:23.809 --> 00:35:25.969
not enough energy to run the slide because you have
595
00:35:25.989 --> 00:35:29.590
to have a pretty stiff spring on a little gun
596
00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:33.510
because the slide travel isn't as far. So the spring's
597
00:35:33.530 --> 00:35:36.320
got to be strong. So you need to grip it
598
00:35:37.139 --> 00:35:40.719
And lean in and get your nose over your toes.
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00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:46.019
Lock your hands, your arms out. Grip this thing like
600
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.059
somebody's going to try to rip it out of your hands.
601
00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:52.960
And a lot of times you will find that your
602
00:35:53.059 --> 00:35:56.860
malfunctions with your little guns will clear up when you
603
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.039
start holding it strong and getting a good grip on it.
604
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.539
When SIG introduced the P365, they had a lot of
605
00:36:04.579 --> 00:36:07.679
calls from people who said this thing isn't working. It's jamming.
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00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:10.920
And they had to do a lot of education for
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00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:12.820
people because it was kind of the first of the
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00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:17.860
micro nines and people didn't understand the physics of it
609
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.539
and the need to have a strong grip and give
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00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:23.500
that gun a lot of resistance. You essentially need to
611
00:36:23.579 --> 00:36:28.059
keep the grip, the frame from moving to let the
612
00:36:28.219 --> 00:36:33.460
slide move backwards over the frame. And it's that movement
613
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.820
of the slide coming back and slamming and going forward
614
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.860
and ripping that next shell out of the magazine that
615
00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:42.650
makes it work. If you don't have a, and I'm
616
00:36:42.690 --> 00:36:45.670
talking about a really tight grip. I'm talking about a
617
00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:49.670
white knuckle grip. And there will be people who say, well, yeah,
618
00:36:49.690 --> 00:36:51.090
it messes up your trigger finger.
619
00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:52.090
Baloney.
620
00:36:52.610 --> 00:36:56.659
It does not. It should not. You must grip your
621
00:36:56.820 --> 00:37:02.090
semi-automatic pistol really strongly. you will be able to not
622
00:37:02.150 --> 00:37:05.460
only make sure that it functions, but you will be
623
00:37:05.659 --> 00:37:09.219
faster in your follow-up shots. The barrel rise is going
624
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.159
to be reduced. The recoil is reduced. And instead of
625
00:37:13.219 --> 00:37:16.170
seeing the sight picture where the gun comes out of
626
00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:18.530
your sight picture and then comes back down into it,
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00:37:19.340 --> 00:37:21.519
When you fire, if you've got a really strong grip,
628
00:37:21.940 --> 00:37:24.539
you'll see the front sight move up slightly and then
629
00:37:24.579 --> 00:37:27.059
just come back. It's almost like we call it dancing.
630
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.639
The front sight's just dancing on the target when you're
631
00:37:29.659 --> 00:37:32.760
going bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Instead of it flying
632
00:37:32.900 --> 00:37:34.599
out of your picture coming back down, you've got to
633
00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:37.840
come back onto the target. It is the way that
634
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:43.340
speed shooters work. They all have an incredibly strong grip
635
00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:46.909
on the gun to control the recoil. It's as simple
636
00:37:46.949 --> 00:37:50.949
as that. So there you go. Jim, I don't think
637
00:37:50.969 --> 00:37:52.809
we've got time to get John in right now, do we?
638
00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:55.860
I don't think so. John, don't go anywhere. We're going
639
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.000
to get to you, okay? I don't want to get
640
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:00.480
you in and then have to cut you off, and
641
00:38:00.500 --> 00:38:01.900
I apologize for that, but we're going to get to
642
00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:05.820
you after this next break. But, yeah, if you're carrying
643
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.820
a small gun, two things. One is make sure– well,
644
00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:11.719
any gun you're carrying, make sure that your carry ammo
645
00:38:11.820 --> 00:38:15.730
you have actually run– I don't know, minimum of two
646
00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:18.659
magazines through. I mean, I would want to run 500
647
00:38:18.659 --> 00:38:21.300
rounds of ball through any carry gun I have just
648
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.800
to make sure it's broken in. But then I want
649
00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:26.539
to run at least two magazines of the very expensive
650
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.400
carry ammo just to make sure that it will function.
651
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.539
And the other is if you are carrying a small gun,
652
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.820
you know, a Hellcat, a 365, a Glock 26, a Bodyguard,
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00:38:37.860 --> 00:38:41.369
any of these, you need to really work on your
654
00:38:41.429 --> 00:38:45.460
technique to grip it as hard as you can, lock
655
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.780
your arms out, lean forward so your body position is
656
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.030
actually leaning into the gun so when it's going off,
657
00:38:55.070 --> 00:38:57.829
your body is not moving back at all. Your arms
658
00:38:57.869 --> 00:39:03.349
are not flexing at all. And the gun almost doesn't
659
00:39:03.409 --> 00:39:09.320
move at all. There's a really decent chance If you're
660
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.489
having trouble with your small gun functioning, you're getting failures
661
00:39:12.530 --> 00:39:15.710
to feed, failures to eject, whatever, that you can actually
662
00:39:16.230 --> 00:39:21.440
fix the gun. You fix your gun by actually fixing
663
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.739
the way you're holding it and the way you're shooting.
664
00:39:24.019 --> 00:39:27.219
Imagine that technique. It really matters.
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00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:32.860
All right.
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We're with you again. Let's go talk to John. He's
667
00:39:35.539 --> 00:39:38.360
in Boise, Idaho. Hello, John. You're on Gun Talk. What's
668
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going on? Hey, Tom.
669
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I need your help. I inherited a 1927 Winchester Model
670
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55 nickel steel lever action 30-30 takedown model. And it's in,
671
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I don't know, I'm kind of a gun novice. This
672
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is exactly my second gun that I inherited. And so
673
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it needs, I don't want to shoot it because it's been,
674
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it was like hanging on a mantle and the takedown
675
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mechanism looks to be either cross-threaded or forced or peened over.
676
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And I just need, from what I can tell online,
677
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it needs like a specialist gunsmith to go over it
678
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and make sure, you know, that the headspace is right
679
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and it's safe and all that. I don't want a restoration.
680
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I just need someone to go over it. It's got
681
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some screws. And what I'm reading is I should send
682
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it somewhere, and I don't know how to send it
683
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or who to send it to. So that's where I'm at.
684
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Okay.
685
00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:38.650
I got a thought for you. You're in Boise. And
686
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the Boise Gun Club... has, they hold events for the
687
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Single Action Shooting Society, the SAS, Cowboy Action Guys. So
688
00:40:49.130 --> 00:40:53.909
these folks really know those guns. And I would think,
689
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the problem is I don't know a gunsmith to send
690
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you to because I don't know who's available down there.
691
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But these guys do. They're the lever action folks, the
692
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Single Action Shooting Society. And if you contact the Boise
693
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Gun Club and say, look, you know, who, Did you
694
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do this? Who would you take this gun to? They're
695
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going to say, oh, yeah, that's Joe. You want Joe
696
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over there because he is the lever action guy or
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whoever it is. That would be a little bit roundabout
698
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way to get you there. But I think it's going
699
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to be the best way for you to find the
700
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best person who's local to you. Okay.
701
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I mean, local is always better. I like to support
702
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local folks and not have to ship and deal with
703
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all those headaches. So I'm happy to do a little
704
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bit of legwork and homework and get it. I just
705
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want to get it safe so I can actually shoot it.
706
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.469
I mean, it's a great-looking gun. It's in great shape.
707
00:41:43.530 --> 00:41:44.849
It just needs some TLC.
708
00:41:44.869 --> 00:41:48.269
Yeah, it's a piece of history. Yeah, so Boise Gun Club,
709
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try them. And look, here's the thing. If they say, look,
710
00:41:51.429 --> 00:41:53.920
there's really nobody here, but this is who everybody sends
711
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them to, then they'll tell you who to send it to.
712
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So either way, I think you're going to get the
713
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info you're looking for.
714
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.360
Okay, excellent. Appreciate you, Tom.
715
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Thanks.
716
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Appreciate you. Take care. Yeah, cool. Piece of history. What
717
00:42:06.219 --> 00:42:10.500
fun stuff, right? This is amazing stuff. Let's see. Jerry,
718
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.460
we're going to have to hold you over. I'm afraid
719
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I have run this segment a little bit too long.
720
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We'll get you back and make sure we'll talk about
721
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scope mounting. Also, I want to talk, and we'll get
722
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to this in the next segment, the whole idea of
723
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cartridges and calibers. They're not the same. We use the
724
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terms interchangeably, so that's a What caliber is your pistol? Well,
725
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.800
it's a. 38 caliber. Well, that's true, but what you're
726
00:42:38.820 --> 00:42:42.099
really asking is what cartridge does it shoot? Oh, what's
727
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.780
the difference? Well, we'll talk about that. Also talk about
728
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what's really important. You've heard me say this before. In
729
00:42:52.320 --> 00:43:00.329
virtually everything, we worry about the wrong thing. That is
730
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especially true when it comes to self-defense and self-defense guns.
731
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We obsess about cartridges and calibers and actions and barrel
732
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links and this and that and the other. And can
733
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I just tell you, we're probably really going about this wrong.
734
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We're worried about the wrong things again, because we do. Well, frankly,
735
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hardware is a lot easier to work on than software,
736
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which is the us problem. Not the it problem. We'll
737
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talk about that. But also we kind of go through
738
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some basics of cartridges, calibers, you know, what's a 9,
739
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what's a 10, what's a 40, what's a 45, all
740
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the rest of that. We'll do a little bit of that.
741
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And if you have some thoughts on that, like which
742
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is better, which do you have, which do you like,
743
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are there any that you hate? Did you say, I'm
744
00:43:50.130 --> 00:43:53.250
glad I got rid of that sucker. Yeah, I got
745
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one or two of those too. Give me a call
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at TomTalkGuns. I'm Tom Gresham. We'll be right back with
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more Gun Talk.
