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Speaker 2: David van Burbe and Will Goodings not after six. Good morning till you're welcome to Tuesday on five Double A Breakfast coming up on the program this morning. We don't talk the fallout from the Black Friday sales event. It was a really interesting tidbit in the data that has come out already. South Australia took to it like more than any other state and I think there's a few things we're going to read into that, but we're going to get into that after six thirty today. Also, Oh, this is going to be fun. A Bruce mcavny inspired seven before seven, the seven greatest commentary moments of all time. Good luck, Patty and m coming up with the top seven before seven on that front that after seven o'clock today. But to be chatting with the vice president of operations at the Stamford Grand they're ongoing stoush with the city councils taking a new turn. We'll get into that. The Sammary Christmas appeal or something. We'd like to spend a bit of time discussing. Phil Curry's going to be on the program. We have a jury trial. We're going to try and work out what in the heck is going on at the glen Enger International School, with police taking the extraordinary step yesterday basically emptying the notebook on this one, so everyone's aware of what the heck is going on there. We'll get into that with the Education Minister. And of course we have ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture goodness to give away. Currently Kate in Cumberland Park is occupying the Nordic Legends Lounge. Will she be unseated if she's still there on Friday next week? It's ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic that's coming her way. We'll find out a little bit later this morning. David Penworthy, good boarding.
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Speaker 4: To you, Good morning listeners. Good morning will yeah Kate from cume On Park. To put it in the parlance of the Sale of the Century nineteen eighties, really it was a period when the game show ruled the earth. It was a golden earr, the Big Three. I would say were in order of my favorite sale of the century. Then Wheel of Fortune with Adelaide's own Adriana exempt filmed here.
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Speaker 2: I remember going to the set as a child, But then you can't go to the set.
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Speaker 4: Of anything else made here. Now, what about the news? What about the new Price is Right? How good was the new price is right? Ian Turpy? Price is right? The new price is right? I still love that show as a kid. So Kate is our carryover champ, as Tony Barber would have would have put it. Let's see how she goes today? Can you do nine in a row and go all the way through to win the ten thousand dollars voucher from our excellent friends at Nordic Furniture.
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Speaker 2: That is what we are hoping for. We have some tickets to give away in this first half hour to Oprah in conversation that's taking place this Saturday, the sixth of December at the Entertainment Center. Tickets on sale now from ticker tech. Vincent Tazia is announced a Minister for Adelaide's Nightlife. Well, he's going to announce it at the A h A lunch, A Minister for Adelaide's Nightlife inventoring a new a new ministry, a new portfolio. Since we're in the business of just inventing new ministries or new portfolios, what what other ministry to South Australian need. What's one specific issue we need someone taking carriage of, someone specifically taking control of like Vincentazi is minister for the night economy?
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Speaker 4: Is there a shadow minister for the night economy? Is Baden Tea in charge of partying or who is it not bad Josh Josh t Baden Tea is the late Baden Tea, lovely man, Josh Tig's dad. Who is is there a shadow minister? Have they this?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good point. Does it do they have do they have to Well? I guess they have to wait for the actual government to take to say. That's a good idea.
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Speaker 4: Theory. Maybe this is why Leon Bignall has announced his he's leaving the Labor Party. Ah, because if you were going to find the job of a lifetime, I've been doing it for free for years.
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Speaker 2: He's overqualified.
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Speaker 4: This is something the New South Wales Liberals tried. I think was it them? I'm not sure, And I think they did in response to effectively shotting the city under some of their anti drinking policies and then they sort of swung around the other way. But yeah, do we need a Do we need a Minister for nighttime economy? Or how about this, do we need a minister for Adelaide? Do we need a Do we need a minister who instead of all this endless faffon around about Hut Street where they're going to blow millions of dollars interminable chin scratching about, there's going to be quite a lot of trees in all Cadelaide that could be in the frame for the Saudi Back to Live golf tournament. How about there's a Minister for Adelaide who just said, you know what, these are the dates for the v eights next year and if you don't like it, go to Melbourne for the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Eight double two. Yeah, I think I think you're on to something. Eight double two three double a double A minister for the night economy? What is a new minister we need here in South Australia. Let us know and you could win Oprah Winfrey tickets. You can text us too on zero before it's zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 4: About the Minister for food and wine. What is more South Australian than this for the iconic sort of.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that problem suffers a bit from Vincent's problem, and that they both report to the Hospitality Minister.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, see Vincent's.
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Speaker 2: We're starting to get a clearer picture of Vincent's view and it seems that what's going wrong in South a Stralias we need more government. So we need a nightlife Minister to report to the Hospitality Minister, and we need a Voice that reports to another body that then reports to Parliament. So with the problems, we just to have enough stuff. We do noough people reporting to each other.
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Speaker 4: Do you understand their position on the voice?
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Speaker 2: They don't understand. Their position of the voice.
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Speaker 4: Seems reasonably straightforward. It's not a tricky question.
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Speaker 2: They think, well, can I try and articulate it. They think the voice model is broken. They think it's delivering absolutely nothing of value to the South Australian people. They're definitely not repealing it. They're just adjusting it by adding some more to it.
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Speaker 4: This thing's so bad that we're probably going to keep it that change it slightly.
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Speaker 2: Can you fact check that? Is that sort of broadly what it seems to be.
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Speaker 4: It's just weird, isn't it. That's the term ten meters out, dead in front, no man on the mark. Even labor people voted over when we were against it. In South Australia, like if you look at the referendum results, the highest no vote was in the blue collar working class seat of Spence. It falls into their it just in South Australia, in the whole country. You know the old saying, if you're standing in the middle of the road long enough, you get run over. Well, you know, mah, what's that. That's the freight train coming.
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Speaker 2: It's it's roughly akin to the net zero position. The straight of the party has no.
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Speaker 4: I think it's identical where well, actually no, that's different because that's where the parliamentary parties said no, we're going to take net zero. This this one. I think he was asked to come on. He was given a chance to come on the show yesterday to talk about the voice. We've got a cricket sound.
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Speaker 2: We can get one, Patty, you'll get one for that offer. Still there, try to wake out what it is. I guess jeez, let's go declare, Jeff, what do we did the Minister for.
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you'd call this one, but we need a Minister to enforced judges that once somebody's broken bay or after that, they go to jails to fix up this youth crime. And you know, we need to need somebody that will come down hard on things.
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Speaker 2: A minuester for jail time.
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Speaker 4: How about Jeff, we call it, give it a fancy name, the Minister for judicial accountability, A Minister for justice. Yeah, miss for justice, that's what Trump would call it. Yeah, Minister for war, Minister for real justice, Minister for no ponsi, Attorney general or.
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Speaker 2: Corrections in this family conference.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, drug diversions.
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Speaker 2: How about ten years jail for Jeff. You're Peter and Bodbury, Good morning morning gents.
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Speaker 6: We've got to have a Minister for council affairs, don't we.
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Speaker 7: Someone that can look into.
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Speaker 4: All the lines and corruption are just the incompetence would be a start. Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more.
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Speaker 2: We again, again, to borrow from a Trump the Trump playbooks opposed having a local government minister. I like where Peter is heading a Minister for local government misconduct. There's the presumption of misconduct of the title or a Minister for no Local Government whose job it is to spend the four years and four years only phasing it out and importantly identifying all the many, many, many, many excellent people who work at councils with a view to getting things done service delivery, good ideas for the community, things like how do you make parking easier not harder? Quarantine All of them say you're going to join the new service delivery unit of the state government absorbed into the Department of Local Government. And other people who want to have poetry competitions to make the Alga bloom go away, they can go and do something else for a living. Don't knock that they We had a lot of fun with that yesterday. Were forever in Moira Aware's debt. I think on that one totally, David Albert and good morning morning boys.
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Speaker 8: This problems plagued this state for far too long.
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Speaker 9: Damn it, Minister for winning Home AFL finals.
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Speaker 2: Totally, totally well. In fact, that needs to be escalated to a royal commission now, doesn't it. We gonna have a minister with carriage for it, but we need someone to with true investigative powers to make recommendations out it can never happen again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and broader powers to you. What about as part of it, you'll also be the Minister for integrity in the draw you know where you'd be the one on the blower to the Victorians. So hang on, Spanks, We've got ten home games in a row to win the year.
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Speaker 2: I think our South Australian Minister for the integrity of the Afield Drawer is a bit similar to local government solving climate change, though it's beyond our power, is that one? I think? Nineteen after six plenty coming through the text slide, you can win yourself Oatra tickets to go along and see Oprah in conversation this Saturday. What does South Australia need a minister for?
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Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast. David Penberthy and Well Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes after six. We're giving away some Oprah tickets this morning. Your chance to win a double pass to see Oprah Winfrey in conversation coming to Adelaide this Saturday the Entertainment Center. Tickets are on sale from ticket Tech. We're asking for ministries. That's South Australian needs in our government. Yeah, given VISITAZI has invented the or plans to invent the Ministry for the night economy. And we really read Nick's text David, because we've got a good chuckle.
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Speaker 4: Nick from wind Vail, Nige Jones from Western Australia could be our Minister for nightlife. He knows all the good spots. He's so good at nightlife. He could be azarre. So Nick would be able to also being a partner up with the Minister for the Status of Women because he's really good at going to licensed premises that only employ women exactly right, make sure they're all being well looked after and are steal Indeed.
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Speaker 2: He's all about punching through glass ceilings night. We should definitely get him more bored for a tourism campaign. Come to South Australia, Sam, what do we need a minister for?
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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I mean we can make fun of this, but on a serious note, we really need a minister to use gain crime. I mean you read the news every every every day there and you can see that the crime is out of control, So I think use gain crying m hmm, yep, Well.
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Speaker 4: There's been plenty of it in the news. Sam, what about what about yesterday's competition? About the poetry against Karennia, Micha Motory and Christata don't miss it Star of Grace eight pm. This this Thursday is going to be big, given the work we've been doing biblicizing it. It's going to be the modern It's going to be the Yeah, you're you're a local down there, dad, I'm in town. I'm not I'm not making a special I'm not well. I don't know, I don't know. It depends. There's still plenty of time to write the sort of you know, office magnus poem.
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Speaker 2: You're a talented writer. You should definitely do it.
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Speaker 4: But the reason I mentioned it, people are still entering yesterday's competition even though it's even though it's I suppose were allowed to, aren't they? They can if they want to do whatever. There was one here. There once was a mayor from Onkaparinga who really had quite a stinker. She helped on a plane with nothing to gain. She really needs to have a hard thinker. Thank you. This person keeps hiding the light under a bushel. Given exactly right, I'll tell you he doesn't hide their light under the under a bushel and that is our in house artificial intelligence band, the Chatterboxes who have taken to disco in.
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Speaker 2: Energy. I think that's bitsa Tazi's election theme right there. You have that one for free. We're going to Minister for nightlife from the Chatterboxes.
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Speaker 4: You can see the slogan coming together now, can't you? For the Libs given the plan to abolish stamped it, which you're going to cost the budget about one hundred and twenty trillion dollars or something over the next three days, no taxes, GI, just party. How goods that sound?
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Speaker 2: I'd vote for that.
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Speaker 4: A bit like the synth player at the end of Spinal Tap when Rob Bryan as Marty Deburgi says if you had a life, creedle or a philosophy, what would it be? And he just goes have a really good time all the time.
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Speaker 2: We might take one more Carlos and him and Valley. What does South Australian Minister for Minister for common sense?
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Speaker 4: Currently?
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Speaker 11: That portfolio is pretty small, but I think it's one that should be expanded.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bigger budget. Thank you, Carlos. Twelve fourty eight degrees outside at the barb and headed for the top of twenty two. No rain today, which is notable for the moment. It's going to start feeling like summer over the next couple of days thirty Tomorrow, thirty three, Thursday twenty six and sunny Friday, then a drizzle. It drops back Saturday to twenty two, but only a little bit twenty three Sunday, and then back to twenty seven on Monday. That's more what we're talking about, and that also coincides with a little cricket match. It's coming up shortly too. Tom Rin here to talk all sport colors, custom design, anyhouse, any style, glatt or garage doors, gltter dot com dot Are you morning ready?
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Speaker 12: Morning Will morning David? Yes, Third Test not too far away. But before we get there, of course, the second test starting Thursday. Let's get our crystal ball out, shall we work out who's going to play? This is what I'm thinking and I think will happen on Thursday.
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Speaker 2: So it's not just what you want, is what you think is gonna happen.
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Speaker 4: This is what I think is going to happen.
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Speaker 12: So talking to a few people, I reckon this is how Australia will line up on Thursday. Travis Head will open or some kouwaj are gone. I reckon Josh Engleis will bat at five, bo Webster will bat at eight Wow, and Nathan Light will be out of the side.
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Speaker 2: So no spinner.
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Speaker 12: Webster can well he can bowl some right arm off breaks yep, but no recognize spinner Josh Ingless at five, Travis Head opening, That's what I'm might head with weather Head.
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Speaker 2: With weather Ord. That's a long batting lineup, isn't.
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Speaker 12: It's a long batting lineup.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's one way of batting our lack of quality, and that's with overwhelming quantity.
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Speaker 12: Green will bout at six carry seven and English at five, so we'll see if it happens. But I reckon maybe I.
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Speaker 2: Don't hate that at all.
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Speaker 4: No, I think it makes sense. I don't think Lion has been and he's clearly had matches over the years where he's been like pivotal. He's one games. There's one games in the second innings. I'm turning pitches, but we paced friendly pitches in Australia against an opponent that the way they play if they do get their own and decide to go after Lione. He could actually be a liability. What's he doing in the side at all?
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Speaker 2: Well, so with tests the way England play them, they don't necessarily going to get to a day five scuffed up. That's a good point.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and they don't tend to spin as much do they with the pink ball? So yeah, look, anyway, I think that might be a that might be a bit of a smoky that test line up, But we'll see, we'll see what happens on that this day. Yeah, So to be intriguing, I'm sure you would have called it a little bit yesterday of the Crows in Port Adelaide. Calum Archie looks good, doesn't. He spoke last night just on the his roots to come into Adelaide and the connection that he had and the fact that he sort of has always had a bit of a soft spot for the Crows.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, my dad loved Andrew McLeod and picked Adelaide as his team and they won the premiership in ninety seven, which is the year I was born, So it kind of made sense to follow in dad's footsteps, And yeah, I loved Andrew McLeod as well, and my brother actually went on.
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Speaker 7: To play for Port.
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Speaker 12: That was Brandon Archie of course, who played at Port Adelaide. But Callum now comes to the Crows to complement that forward line. He looked big, he looks strong. He's a good big game player. I don't think he's got to be your game breaking, you know, player that wins you the game from the midfield, but he's going to be that. He's had a really good record in big games and with the Crows forward line the way it's structured, he'll be a great addition. They just need to get there.
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Speaker 2: It's similar like to the Alex Neil Bullen edition last year week the's a professional seasoned adults. That's what Calamarchie is. Spot on. Yep. So I'll tell you what though in my mind, I think Calamarchie's good veteran. How much experiences he got, you know, it's nice to have an older head in the room.
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Speaker 4: He was born in.
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Speaker 2: Nine I know, I know, it's scary.
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Speaker 4: That's better. And then when they're born this century and like, yeah, I suppose it makes sense. People have been born the century, including our children, but.
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Speaker 2: It's still hard to grasp good Stuff any.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthie and World Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes to seven. We need to give away Oprah tickets for the first half hour. The various intrigues for the ministry that our Australia needs given. Vincentazi is inventing the new ministry for the night economy. Does one stand out to you day but that we can send along the wait for this weekend.
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Speaker 4: Oh now, let's let's think I reckon, Let's give it to Pete Mowbray.
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Speaker 2: All right, Peteon Modbra, you've got it coming at your way. Congratulations to you. Off to see Oprah in conversation Coming to Adelaide Saturday, sixth of December at the Entertainment Center. Tickets on sale now from ticker tech. I love a text we received a short time ago. This is the Christmas Spirit about a weed on a median strip that's so overgrown in the on Capringer Council area that someone has decorated as a Christmas tree. But now it's between Colonnades and card Iron College and it looks spectacular. If anyone else has seen us seen it, let us know what a great protest about the failure to clear verges.
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Speaker 4: I got to say that that is there a new weed. I've got a feeling that that photo has been around in the past. I don't know if it's one of those things that gets reposted every Christmas, like the terrific shop signed down at Victor Harbor from years back. It cannot be you.
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Speaker 2: Think so you think this might not be a new diverse or someone tell us so we're being told it's between Cardine College and Colonnades.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's a Facebook post on it.
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Speaker 2: We'll have a Can someone confirm the we dressed up as a Christmas tree or is it dated? Let us know eight double two to three double double O textus on zero be four eight zero thirteen ninety five. We'd love to hear from you. The other thing we want to hear from you on Paddy and m need some help because we set them the impossible task. Inspired by Bruce mcavan. He's gong which give the man all the gongs. I love Bruce magavan. He's just the best. He's been honored with a wonderful recognition from the World Athletics Federation, the President's Award, and he did this terrific speech it's fantastic. As I say, love Bruce deserves every one and that can possibly come his why one of the true professionals of the game. We asked Patty and m for seven before seven this morning, come up with the seven best moments of commentary of all time. They need some help, not because there's too few, but because there's too many. So two to three double double a text us on zero before zero, eight, thirteen ninety five and help them just narrow down with weight of number the list. What should feature in a list of the top seven commentary moments of all time?
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Speaker 4: I think some of our English listeners would like the line from nineteen sixty six that went they think it's all over, it is now from the gymn and go yes, okay, that's in the top seven.
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Speaker 2: All right, that's an entry. We'll take it seven before seven. We'll hear it very very shortly. First, let's revisit a story that we covered extensively yesterday on the program Mission to Retrieve the body of a diver at Tantanula in the cave there a diving tragedy. Local diving expert Ryan Kashkowski joins us on five double a breakfast. Ryan good morning to you.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, Good So Ryan, this is obviously a such a tight knit community. I'm imagining cave diving. You guys must all known each other. It must be a pretty heavy sort of seen down there still.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, especially at that sort of level of diving, the group you can get smaller because you know, you're meeting each other all the time, and we are quite a tight group. And so yeah, I mean's obviously devastating.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so can you give us a bit of a sense of I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to go into these caves? Like, can you sort of give us a sort of broad description of what it's like down there?
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Speaker 15: Yeah?
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Speaker 14: Absolutely, Well, I mean it's completely different than obviously anything top side. It's completely dark. I think a lot of people sort of don't really get that idea because obviously the sun doesn't reach it at all. As soon as you go in more than twenty thirty meters, it's completely pitch black. So obviously it's all torch artificial torch light. But you know, a lot of people sort of say, what do you see down there? Isn't it just rocks? And I suppose that's true. It is just rocks. There's not huge amounts of life down there, but you know, the passage the rocks formations are incredible. The passage changes so much between tiny small spaces to really really large spaces that could you know fit a fit cars or planes through. You know, used to give you an idea of size, and it's really that sort of mind blowing shape and size that really just makes you feel like you're almost in space or somewhere, you know, unworldly.
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Speaker 4: Are the caves at a point now where they're well known enough that when you go diving there there's a map that you can look at in advance, or rather, are the networks so big and sprawling that there's a chance that you might end up in part of the cave that if any people have ever been to before.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, like a lot of the caves down here have really been explored. I mean there's always opportunities to find new sections and we are looking for them all the time, so it's not like you accidentally stumble across anything. You'll most likely be trying to look for it. Tank Cave is our largest and most extent and complex one that we have in South Australia, and you know, people were diving every week looking for sections, so it is possible, but you know a lot of the early expiration was when huge sections were found. I certainly hope there's more to be found, but it's certainly something you're going to have to work for. Probably the more likely thing is that, you know, maybe another cave on someone's property is found, is probably more likely than you know, new large sections being discovered in some of the caves.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and do you know exactly where this poor bloke from Victoria is is it? Is it at a point where you've sort of been able to locate him? And how's it all going?
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Speaker 15: Yeah?
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Speaker 14: No, I mean I don't want to talk too much about it obviously, just because it's with you know, the Curran professionals. But you know, all I can really say is that he you know, he was he was a great buy. I knew him. He was a great bloke and he was an experienced guy. He loved what he was, what he's, what he did, and uh and yeah, he just you know, it's always devastating sort of news. But he's out now and yeah we're waiting for the we're waiting for the result.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Brian, thank you so much for joining us. Ryan Kuczowski their Southeast Caves either who was helping with the retrieval.
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Speaker 2: Lots of ticks coming through on the text lines before at zero eight thirteen ninety five, and many confirming the Christmas weed in the on Kaprina council area. One person says it's definitely a new weed. Corey says can confirm it is a current photo. I saw it on Sunday. Another one here Ryan and Morphotbale saw it Saturday, had a laugh. Definitely real. Someone here says morning lads, mayor of Hackham. Here the Christmas weed is a true thing. On the intersection outside Cardin College as you go into Colonades. Another amazing down South feature love your work Bin Dog, Bin Dog, Bin Dog, Marra Hackham excellent.
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Speaker 4: Nat Cook is the local MP down that neck of the woods or nearby. Rather not trying to put Chris picked it out of a job because I think his seat. But yeah, she's sent a link through to the Facebook post and there are dozens and dozens of comments and all people just everyone's taking pictures of the weed as they drive past past. One Facebook newser Jessica Bernie Goes ll look at us all photographing the same weed. That dude must feel so famous.
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Speaker 2: Well, we got a text for one person, so they would have entered it into the Mayor's Christmas Lights decoration competition had she not canceled it. Maybe that's why market Highbrie. What should be on the seven before seven Greatest commentary Moments of all Time?
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Speaker 10: When mackayby Deva won three in a row, Champion becomes a legend.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, champion becomes a legend. Thank you, Mark. That's certainly up for consideration. I don't know how Paddy and em going to come up with this. I think everyone is going to be upset. We'll find out shortly. Let's head to the weather Bureau. Hannah marsh Is on Dudy Hannah Summer just around the corner.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, we're there, but we are going to see those temperatures increasing. But before we get there, we had minimums around that five to thirteen degree marks through the metropolitan area, with eleven point seven in the city overnight. There is a little bit of cloud around still, but we do expect this to clear as we get deeper into the morning period. We're looking at a maximum of twenty two degrees in the city today, twenty three at Elizabeth, twenty one for Glenelg, Nolunga and Mount Barker. And as you alluded to, we do have a high pressure system out to the west at the moment. As that does move past us and to the east, we'll see the winds come around to the north and we'll see those temperatures increase. So we're looking at a mostly sunny thirty degrees tomorrow, getting up to thirty three degrees on Thursday. We will see the cloud increase and we do have a change moving through on Thursday, but we're not expecting much in the way of rainfall associated with that system. We'll drop the temperature back to twenty six for Frive, but it will still be sunny. But then we do have a wakefront that just clips the south east on Saturday, which says a shower or two and dropping the temperature back to twenty two degrees for Saturday twenty three on Sunday, but getting back up to a sunny twenty seven degrees by next Monday.
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Speaker 4: Good on you, Hannah. Thank he Hannah Marsh from the Bureau of Meteorology.
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Speaker 2: We said discipoles and you can to met Hailes on the line. Met there was a pretty dramatic stabbing at Clearview.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, good morning David and will. In the early hours this morning, police and paramedics were called to the intersection of Hampstead Road on Sarnia Avenue in Clearview. It was reported that a man was sitting in his car when he was approached by a group of men in another car, who then demanded his wallet. During that altercation, the forty eight year old victim was stabbed in his leg. He was taken hospital by ambulance. Unfortunately, his injuries were not life threatening at all. His car was seized by police for forensic examination and while investigations are continuing, we really want to stress that this does not appear to be a random incident. Anyone who's got any dash cam or witness the incident or as asked to contact crime Stoppers on Crimestoppers say dot com dot au or one to eight hundred triple three triples there and remember you can remain enonymous.
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Speaker 4: I met also three people who have been arrested after a clandestine lab drug lab was discovered in Salisbury, East.
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Speaker 17: Yes, not a good day for these drug manufacturers. At about two thirty this morning, police and fire crews responded to a house far at Hazel Road in Salisbury East. Firefighters put out a small fire which has caused minor damage in the kitchen area of the address. Three occupants were evacuated during the incident. A fifty three year old man was taken hospital with non life threatening burns to his legs. Police in covered evidence consistent with drug manufacturing, locating chemicals and equipment in the kitchen. A twenty three year old man, sixty two year old woman and a fifty three year old injured man were all arrested and are expected to be charged later this morning with manufacturing a control drug. The women was also found to be in possession of thirty grams of meth and phetamine and she'll be charged with trafficking and control drug. Northern District detectives and investigators from the Drug and Organized Crime Task Force are still at that address processing the same. Anyone with the information is asked to contact crime stoppers as well, and remember you don't have to leave your name, just tell us what you know.
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Speaker 2: Just lastly, Met before we let you go, you caught up with the high range drink driver in Met Gambia.
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Speaker 17: Yes, big consequences here for this lady. So it was just about eleven forty last night police were called to Jubilee Highway East after reports that a Cherry station wagon had front end damage and was driving erradically all over the road towards Mount Gambier. Please stop that car and the driver. A twenty one year old woman underwent a breath test and she returned a blood alcohol reading wait for this, of zero point two zero two. That's over four times illegal limit. It got even worse for her as check revealed her life since was disqualified. The women was supported for drink driving and disqualified driving. Her car was impounded. On top of all that, she lost her license for twelve months. And lastly, this has just showed you how bad it is if you go drink driving. She's going to have to face court and answer to those charges down the track. It's a real blessing that no one, including herself was seriously injured by this selfish driving behavior.
00:31:23
Speaker 4: Yeah no, absolutely, Matt Well said four times driver, what a rat bag saying you can't stable met hale from safe.
00:31:28
Speaker 2: Four times over? No license? So licenses qualified? Wasn't that person going to jail well.
00:31:34
Speaker 4: Disqualifying the license with someone whose license has already disqualified seems to be a case study in empty gestures, does it not? You need to find a different penalty because that person already doesn't care. They've shown by their actions that they're laughing at the system, and so what they can do to spend a license again?
00:31:51
Speaker 2: It's exactly right.
00:31:52
Speaker 4: So just you know me and are along the Riddick Highway in a completely maggeted state, and then back of the consequences.
00:32:00
Speaker 2: I like this idea from Rob on the text line. Rob says, perhaps the Christmas weed could start a movement and we can have a Christmas Weed map of Adelaide. It could become a new tourism thing. I like that idea, Sapa. I will be able to help with some of the locations. Do long live exactly right? Like that one, and so long live the Christmas Weed of Colonades.
00:32:19
Speaker 4: I love it.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: We think, we think it's terrific.
00:32:21
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast five.
00:32:25
Speaker 2: Minutes to seven our top seven before seven in just a money before we get there. I wanted to reflect back on the Black Friday sales which are they we end. There's I mean there's still ads going around to how many texts you got from businesses. I've started to get into the habit of clicking stop. I did that yesterday as Stratko.
00:32:43
Speaker 18: No.
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Speaker 4: I love Stratco. No issues with Stratco. I don't need ten messages a day. My relationship with retailer has been an effective one over my life. It's I go there when I need things. I don't need to be reminded. Yeah, yeah, but it clearly works.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Kylie Niel's the center manager for Harbortown, one of the places that I have been to over the journey. Lots of people were there, drove past it over the weekend. My word, the extra parking they put on. I think the population of Harbortown was bigger than that the rest of Adelaide at one point in time. Kylie, good morning to you. What was your assessment of how Black Friday played out in essay this year? Was it as big as it has been?
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Speaker 19: Oh, I'd certainly say this was one of our biggest Black Fridays on record, and it was actually a really strong whole week, not just on the Friday. I think the customers really took that opportunity to come throughout the route rather than everybody just rushing in on Black Friday, which was good. I feel for all of our retail staff on the floor.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I must be beat on there, Kylie. Has it been the rest of the year though, because you know, people are still talking about power prices, cost of living, cost of housing. Has it been quiet a year overall? And do you think people might be saving their retailer activity for the Black Friday period?
00:34:03
Speaker 19: I certainly think our big sale periods have been more effective and really brought the customers through than prior years. Our sales and traffic are still up in double digit growth, but I feel it is because we are outlet, so our customers know that every day of the week we have everything on sale at least seventy percent off.
00:34:27
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good reason to get in there obviously, isn't it. And how I've mean the hart to town for a while, college expanded quite a bit of late, hasn't it.
00:34:36
Speaker 19: Well, we've brought in a lot of new brands over the years. Over just in recent years we've had Nike join us and Assets Adventure Megastore, Helly Hansen Champion, so all of these are brands that haven't been to Adelaide before and our customers are certainly enjoying not having to go into state to get the brands.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Judan. I need to fly over to sen and there's one there, I think the near the airport in Melbourne. Kylie and Neil, the center manager for Harbortown. Yeah, I've been doing a lot of unsubscribed I'm just gonna look at an email. It's just ridiculous, constant pestering.
00:35:16
Speaker 2: I think there's a sad footnote to the busyness of the Black Friday sales over the weekend, and that is it's a reminder. The reason it was most popular in South Australia, which is what the early data is telling us, is because South Australia has the highest higher proportion than any other mainland state of households that are doing it tough. So Christmas shopping becomes Black Friday shopping.
00:35:37
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though, for people who are Christmas shopping, it's a good opportunity to get some savings. But as a present, absolutely, well, how do you know that? How do you know what the original price was? Well, for some I think most people have a rough idea. If you've been in the market for you know, we need to buy a vacuum cleaner.
00:35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
00:35:56
Speaker 4: I bought a mac pack jacket like a little rain jacket in one of the sales, and I knew what that was. Normally it was one hundred and fifty bucks and something they were eighty nine or something. Thought, that's a good saving. We'll get the one of them.
00:36:09
Speaker 2: Not to say everyone's doing the right thing, but I think a lot of time we people know what the general price of stuff is. Hey, let's do our Top seven before seven. Patty and m put this together. The impossible tasks. We love setting them impossible tasks. Great commentary moments the Top seven before seven. In seventh spot, Brevet runs head, Oh my godness, very.
00:36:30
Speaker 4: Back, wonderful chase.
00:36:33
Speaker 2: Why he's sure they train up behind him.
00:36:36
Speaker 4: Like a librarian.
00:36:38
Speaker 2: Heartbreaking moment for the Saints of the Grand Final, called by Dennis Committee number six.
00:36:43
Speaker 12: Yeah done, it's got six at the d build them man a stack, Tom, what's happen here?
00:36:51
Speaker 2: Remem when Scott Bolin exploded onto the scene. Nice to get six at the gap of this week. I've never seen the like.
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Speaker 20: Study. Yes, child.
00:37:15
Speaker 2: I can't spike darts commentary is great. I'm glad that got in there at number five. I don't know what the relevance of the game was. I just know it's sounded excellent. He's number four.
00:37:24
Speaker 4: Yes, McGrath comes in.
00:37:26
Speaker 20: It's on its way instead.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: The Martel of Dress the Miracle of Grass a bit of a rip off of the American Miracle on Ice number three, but the Candy Cleman a.
00:37:39
Speaker 4: Hundred menus to go excellent runs to second.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: Run John, but a champion becomes a legend, the candy neighbor's man it as requested by Mark and Hyper a little bit earlier. I think number two.
00:37:51
Speaker 20: He's a famous victory. I'm a magnificent performance.
00:37:56
Speaker 21: What I go?
00:37:58
Speaker 4: What a Javion?
00:37:59
Speaker 2: The legend calling legend, Bruce calling Kathy Freeman the two thousand Olympics and the number one spot host to sit is still alive here. That was the goal that secured the Premier League title. One of the more remarkable moments everyone checking their phones in the stands and so forth.
00:38:18
Speaker 4: Was that Martin Tyler commentating it was wasn't long.
00:38:21
Speaker 2: Before he retired an absolute legend. Seven before seven.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double A breakfast day after seven.
00:38:29
Speaker 2: Good morning too if you're joining us for the first time on this Tuesday, the second of December. If you've been waiting patiently for summer to come in, you may just caught it in the five double A forecast, but you certainly would have heard it if you're with us in the first hour with the weather Bureau thirty tomorrow, thirty three on Thursday, and then despite a little shower on Saturday a little setback'll be back to twenty seven on Monday next week. It feels like we're starting to get into a stable pattern of warm weather, which is magnificent, stableish, stableish, well a relative relative what we've had.
00:38:58
Speaker 4: But someone has not got off to the most traditional start.
00:39:01
Speaker 2: It dosn't met a cracking start, no, but it's got time to improve, exactly. Phil Curry covering up after seven thirty. We'll talk federal politics with Phil, and also we need to this mystery around the Glenarng International School and the disturbing detail the police released yesterday in an attempt to try and identify the person that is.
00:39:18
Speaker 4: The weirdest story that has repeatedly.
00:39:20
Speaker 2: Been issuing the school with all sorts of threats.
00:39:24
Speaker 4: Frankly, dead spiders, Bitremberg, honey, all these weird code words. The person I feel pretty sorry for too is the guy who was taken into custody, the original suspect. Yeah, he's taken into custody and he's presumably saying it's not me, it's not me, and they're like, yeah, right, okay. While he's in custody, the school gets more threats. Yeah, yeah, you got the wrong go on the true We got some.
00:39:50
Speaker 2: Detail and gather around tickets yesterday. Did you read about this? So tickets to go and sale tomorrow. Make sure you circle the day tomorrow. If you're a club an AFL member, you be able to get access to tickets. They're doing a little bit differently this year. You to be tomorrow and there's a special period on Thursday where you'll be able to get tickets if you're a club in IFIL member. The other thing you'd be able to do is now buy tickets to other games, not just your team's game. One little difference though, that's going to hit hit pockets is that there are no more free tickets, so you don't get the game for free if it's your team, it's now twenty dollars. The junior and kids members tickets are free, but this is the first time that's going to have a cost attached to it. One dollar from every member ticket goes to the Women's Children's Hospital Foundation, which I think is terrific, the official charity partner for gathering, which they were last year. This is good. Building into the tickets is a good thing. The general admission general public non member tickets start at forty dollars for adults, eighteen for juniors, families for eighty dollars. They're all standalone events, no double head of fixtures, and all tickets will be available via ticket tech. So the big difference is that now you have to pay twenty bus because I looked back to see what did the advice in the AFO website say last year AFILM, and this is what it read. Twenty four hour member priority window to redeem a free general ad mission or Category three ticket to watch their club of support and a discount for upgraded seats. So this year there is a nominal twenty dollars fee attached to the.
00:41:19
Speaker 4: Whole thing, So becoming more expensive, well significantly more expensive.
00:41:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's still less expensive than a normal game, but it's not as it was originally an add on. It was a free extra game.
00:41:33
Speaker 4: Sell out there, I reckon in about three seconds flat. It's crazy, isn't it. How many people do you know from in the state too, who are now just falling over themselves to get here.
00:41:42
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's good, I think. I do think it's good that members have got an extra access to go to other games as well, so they're not restricted, so that will work well. Does anyone have qualms about the added cost or the way it's going to work this year? I'd love to hear from your eight double two three double double. I went online yesterday and try to read all the forums and the views and whatnot, and whilst there were some people in the States saying, gee, it's gonna act extra, being extra hundred dollars to take the family over, by and large, all the gripes with the draw sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the games are just terrible.
00:42:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, there's not enhing that.
00:42:17
Speaker 2: Was still seemed to be amongst footy fans. The main criticism interested to see what our listeners think zero eight thirty ninety five, Well.
00:42:24
Speaker 4: The relationship between the Holdfast Bay Council and the flagship hospitality business down at the Bay, which is of course the Stamford Grand Hotel. It's reached what I would describe as a new low after a recent appearance on ABC Radio by the Mayor Amanda Wilson. She was on ABC Radio last Friday, during which she made a number of statements attributing whatever difficulties the hotel claims to be having to pretty much any factor other than the Jetty Road upgrade. She made comments about the competition that the hotel has been facing from other bars. She talked about the Algill bloom. She talked about the fact that the state government was also making changes to the tram overpasses, and also said that and this is the bit that has upset the hotel the most I think is that the construction that is undergoing quote isn't near the Grand Well. Anyone who's been down to Glen elg and I go down there a lot. I go to both ends. It's not the world's longest discipline RG road. People can see that the works are affecting a very large area and that the Grand in terms of access is very very much in the frame. Andrew Donodell as the vice president of operations at the Grand Hotel, and we've got him on the line again. Andrew, probably a bit of an understatement to say that there's a bit of deflection going on in the commons that the mayor made.
00:44:02
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's an understatement. These scenes were blaming everything but their own project at this stage.
00:44:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, does it annoy you though? I mean, clearly you've written to the council asking for a retraction and an apology. Does it annoy you that this is sort of all these suggestions are being floated in the public arena and then you guys are sort of left to try to, you know, set the record straight.
00:44:28
Speaker 6: Exactly right.
00:44:29
Speaker 8: I mean, they know how to contact us. If they want to get information, they can, they can reach out to us, and we're open to have an open dialogue. We've been very open with.
00:44:38
Speaker 2: That in the past.
00:44:39
Speaker 8: We just don't understand why they keep making these public statements that are not based on any facts and it's a misrepresenting the business.
00:44:51
Speaker 4: And the other thing too, You've had some difficulties in terms of even having a conversation with them, like you made multiple attempts to talk to them that that fell on Deafy's in the first instance. But then there was a meeting scheduled a week or two ago where the hotel asked if you would be able if the council would agree to record the meeting. So the councilors did, no, we're not doing that. What's happened since then? Have you had any discussions with them since then?
00:45:21
Speaker 8: We wrote back to them asking for our initial apology and information on what relief they'd be offering the councilor the community. We were expecting a reply by Friday last week. At about four point thirty, we got a response from the Council's seeing the DUTO understa in circumstances, they wouldn't be able to reply that deeper. They'll be replying to us on Wednesday this week, by a closer business tomorrow, so we're looking forward to that response tomorrow.
00:45:50
Speaker 4: And there's been a lot of upbeat social media posts by the council and by the mayor featuring the mayor over the last week or so about how things are really you know, on the move and there's our fresco dining. Does that deal with your reading of where the project is at I.
00:46:08
Speaker 8: Mean, it doesn't look like it's it's going to be ready anytime soon. But look, we're really excited that it is opening. And of course with the extra pressure, they've probably tried to expedite things more than they had to. And don't get me wrong, we're really excited that the end of Jet Road is meant to open by the nineteenth, the December, but it doesn't change what's happened since August and still on the count. Sort of just put the hand up and say, you know, we screwed up peak ownership for the problem, and offer some kind of relief to the community.
00:46:39
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Andrew Donald or, vice president of operations at Grand Hotels. And lest anyone think this is some sort of you know, anti mayor crusade, we've now for the second time in less than a week. We've the second time in a week less than a week, we've asked invited the mayor to come on the show. She didn't do it last week. She's told us again that she's unavailable. Will give her a fair hearing. We've also said to any business that wants to come on and talk about how great they think the whole project is, we're all is still haven't heard from any of them, so, you know, repeated attempts to give the council a chance to put it side, and no response forthcoming. Stephen Patterson is the local Liberal member for Morphoot and he's called and what's your take on where things are at stament?
00:47:28
Speaker 11: Which really it's been really poor communications. I think the councils have really gone to a siege mentality here and that's been going on since the middle of twenty twenty four when they first announced the rate rise, and you know, I came out strongly against that because it was during a cost of living crisis, and I mean one of the real issues here is that you just don't have governments working together at all levels. It is a project where that was an opportunity. I mean, we've got bipartisan support for the project at a federal level, both Liberal and Labor supported ten million dollars to be put into the project, and in the council wasn't able to secure funding from the state governments on the view that it's a state tourism precincts and it's certainly warrants also having a state contribution to this project, and that would have helped the Council to a large extent. You would have had all levels working together and it's just disappointing. The businesses are hurting. All the businesses I speak to a lot of them, they're turnovers down and to be honest, I mean I've run a business as well. You don't care about excuses. You just want all levels of government to help out and to chip in, and so that the council really needs to live this government. The Stanford Grands and iconic business down at glenelg we want them now supporting glenel because of course they reach out and bring tourism into the sector and ultimately the up grade will do the same. It'll be on all the state tourism brochures once it's up and running. And it really just needs government to understand business and work much better.
00:49:11
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Stephen Patterson, the Liberal member for More, thanks for that.
00:49:15
Speaker 2: Ninety minutes after seven, let's check traffic and also cast and I Ford to something we're going to be doing a little bit later, getting in the Christmas spirit, celebrating the best of South Faulsy produce and experience as we're doing this all week. Did it yesterday? That was a lot of fun thanks to brandis a support local and BIASA four is a look for the State logo on products during your Christmas shop. We'll talk more about that over the course of the morning.
00:49:36
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:49:40
Speaker 2: But after seven thirty this morning, Phil Curry's going to join us and we'll talk federal politics with Phil and then the Education Minister on the Glenung international terror plot. That's it's just terrifying for parent, parents and students and everyone who works at that school as well, So we'll get some more detail on that before eight o'clock. But some good news here. Every time Sammary contacts us to come and we jump at the opportunity because we've got this magnificent facility here in South Australia where all sorts of development, the smartest people in the world are inside that building working on all manner of things making people's lives better and longer. And so is the case without an Next guests, Professor deb White is the head of Sammry's Precision Cancer Cancer Medicine group, and Janet Anderson is a survivor of chronic myloid leukemia. Janet deb Good morning to you both.
00:50:26
Speaker 22: Good morning, good morning, thanks for having us.
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Speaker 4: Now. I got to say from the start that my head spins reading some of this stuff. Professor White, you are pioneering research and covering how the gut micro biome affects cancer development in acute lymphoblastic leukemia. There's about five words in there that I don't understand. What's the gut micro biome and why is it so important?
00:50:51
Speaker 22: We've all got one and it's pretty important. So the gut microbiome is really just the bugs if you like, that are in the gut there, tightly regulated by food, tightly regulated by.
00:51:03
Speaker 4: The sort of drugs we take.
00:51:05
Speaker 22: Antibiotics, et cetera affect the microbiome, and we've recently, in collaboration with a number of people, identified that there is a link between the gut microbiome and acutiny for blastic leukemia, and we're now going through trying to work out how to sort that out.
00:51:23
Speaker 4: So, because I think, you know, mug punters like me would think we'll sour krout and you know, rye bread, maybe the odd bottle of kombucher if you're feeling particularly virtuous, those things are related to your gut held stomach cancer, bowel cancer, but your recentary shows actually goes beyond that into other types of cancer too.
00:51:41
Speaker 22: Yeah, it seems like a long bow, doesn't it. But in fact we know that the immune system or in fact seventy percent of the immune system comes from the gut, is driven by the gut, and then we know that in fact the cancers are really intrinsically linked the immune system, and so therefore there's a link which seems like a long bow, as I said, But in fact, the more we can boost our immune system and have everything running as it should, the better we think our response to therapy will be.
00:52:12
Speaker 2: Now, Janet, our listeners may have even heard you play in the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra.
00:52:18
Speaker 1: The orchestra over the last twenty years.
00:52:21
Speaker 2: Now, did your path cross with deb directly or was it indirectly as a part of a as a part of this trial that you went into that sounds like it's had extraordinary results indirectly.
00:52:32
Speaker 1: So I've been involved with other professors on this specific trial, and.
00:52:35
Speaker 2: So take us through where you were before this trial, what that involved, where you are now.
00:52:42
Speaker 1: Well twenty twenty, which was a crazy year for everyone obviously, you know, I hadn't realized that perhaps I was feeling a little bit tighter. And then I just had a blood test testing for something else and it showed up that I had this chronic my Lloyd lakeema. So that was obviously a huge shock. And then I was given the option of going on the three treatments that were currently available, which is amazing because since two thousand and one this leukemia has been survivable, which is you know, I'm obviously extremely grateful for that. And then had the option to go on this trial, and I thought, you know, this is going to be my best option, and it has been amazing. So six months in my cancer levels were down to zero and feeling great.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: So yeah, and is part of that, And this might be a question you'd want to get involved with Professor White, this idea that cancer Historically it's like, let's just check everything at it and go as hard as we can. But it's now is now becoming a more bespoke approach where it does vary so much from you know, one tumor and one person might be different from a tumor another person. It's more tailored ways of going after it.
00:53:56
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think that's that's the critical thing. We talk about precision medicine, so and that's an evolving term. So with the therapy that Janet was on targeted her leukemia or her cancer directly, so we knew what caused that cancer. Clever people cleverer than me, had developed drugs that would actually directly target that cancer, and that was the drug that Janet went on. In fact, we've had three different generations of that, so that this is about precision medicine as we've known it up until now probably has been the targeting of the actual cancer that you have. We're now starting to take that a little bit further, particularly in the sort of work we're doing where we're saying, okay, so we know a lot about the cancer because we do a lot of gene sequencing, since you know, we can now we understand the cancer relatively well, but we know not all patients respond. So what is it about the patient that is actually contributing to that? So it's kind of I guess, thinking about your cancer being your cancer, it's about and this is where modifying that not by adding more drugs, but maybe by doing simple things by changing diet or adding some probiotics or some prebiotics and all of those sort of things that we can tailor for an individual patient to improve the way their cancer growths. Actually not improve the way their cancer grows, but actually understand the way it grows, and then we can reduce that growth with therapy that targets the cancer but also helps the patient debells.
00:55:29
Speaker 2: This is maybe a bit tangential, but I was reading a piece by a medical researcher in the United States and I'm wonder for the situation similar here in Australia, and was talking about this period of rapid advancement development that you're clearly involved in, but it was too about the potential of AI and people have dreamed about what that might look like in the future. They said, the problem that any rapid advancement in treatment of anything is going to face is the same as it's always faced, and none of that's going to be fixed by technology, and that is that the choke point the backloggers once you get to the human trial stage of things, getting enough people and funding. That part of it is that your experience here in Australia as well.
00:56:02
Speaker 22: Australia is pretty lucky with clinical trials. We have a fairly contained population and actually a population that's pretty willing to be involved in clinical trials. But absolutely that's where the cost comes in. And we also before we can get to clinical trials as well, you have to do a lot of work. We obviously can't do the sort of stuff that we're doing in patients. We have to do it in our models first, and that's in the lab and with the mice, etc. But you need to have this is where the association comes in between the patient, the researchers, the farmer. We need farmer involved as well. And so's that's big funding that is actually falling short in Australia at the moment.
00:56:43
Speaker 2: So yes, it is that which brings us back to the Christmas appeal for Samary. How can people support this wonderful institution if they.
00:56:50
Speaker 22: Go to the Samary website at the moment, it's on the front page of the website and we're really excited to bring the community along and on board to join us in this quest to improve the responses of patience.
00:57:02
Speaker 2: Well, we need more money for an organization like Samdary so we can have more people like dare working on things that benefit people like you. Janet and the rest of us. So great to have you both in. Thanks so much for coming in to chat with us about it.
00:57:13
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us David Penberthy and world Goodings. Five double A Breakfast.
00:57:19
Speaker 2: Twenty to eight The Education Minister Blair Boys shortly on the extraordinary revelations regarding Glenunga International School and the situation they've been in for the better part of them the last twelve months, terrorized by someone that they can't yet locate. But the details of which they came out yesterday quite are quite harrowing. So we're going to get into that very very shortly then after eight o'clock today, of course. The Nordic Furniture Legends Lounge currently occupied by Kate from Cumberland Park. Whoever sits on the lounge as of Friday next week wins ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture. Kate could keep winning, we'll find out a little bit later this morning. Stay listing if you want to be part of one of the best prizes we've ever got to give away. On five to Blave Breakfast, let's head to the nation's capital now. Phil Curry, the political editor of The Australian Financial Review joins us. Phil, I read with interest a piece you write overnight that often come on, come on, Phil, David, you're pregnant now. I was building up to something. The David Penberthy's of the world are falling in behind Pauline Hanson.
00:58:27
Speaker 15: What are you, gen xpember I think so as we know, we'll all the polls, our poll, News poll, everyone's poll is showing paul and Hanson one nation. Support for a nation has been increased quite dramatically since the election. I think they've got about six percent nationally on election day, and depending on which poll you look at now they're running at about fifteen to eighteen percent. So we commissioned it was done for US, but our Polster red Bridge is super sample. So they polled about five thousand people over the course of three weeks. And when you do that many people, you can then sort of get reliable breakdowns. You know, you've got enough people to see how this how what's going on in each state and amongst women and men, and you know, people in different incomes and so forth. And the thing that showed showed out it's no surprise that it's sort of older generations, you know, gen x's and baby boomers where the support for one nation is the highest, but amongst Gen X men, so that's people born after sixty five, from sixty five to nineteen eighty, it's twenty six percent, So that's quite high. See, it's sort of you can break down the data and it shows these are people of sort of well because on one of them, I'm not a one nation voter, but it's it's it's people have sort of you know, the what they call the Sandwich generation. They're a bit sort of worn down by it all kids and aging parents and economic stress coming at them from both ends, and they're sort of tie of workness and all these sorts of things. So it's it's just it's an interesting insight into into where that where the main support is coming from.
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Speaker 4: I'd pinpoint it, feel, in all seriousness, to the release of Rodney Rude Live in about nineteen eighty two, because I think that, seriously, there's a bunch of people in my generation and I'm like you, I'm not going to rock up at the ballot box and look for the one nation person handing out how to vote cards, But there are there are people in our age bracket who can remember a day when the Rodney Grudes and Kevin Bloody Wilson's rule the world in the comedy space and using that as a little cipher for how sort of now we've got to walk on eggshells about everything we do and say, you know, you give a few people four pints and when they're talking in the privacy of their their their their matship group, they'll be gone. Cover. The world has become such a bloody boring, politically correct place.
01:00:52
Speaker 15: Yes it has, and that's right, And it's also just I think that the main the main thing, Dave is economic stress.
01:00:59
Speaker 4: That's strive.
01:01:00
Speaker 15: I think people like that too. Yeah, you just sort of you get your head of the board and someone pushes it back down under again and you sort of feel like you're just I mean a lot of people under economic stress, but for some reason it's really concentrated and in that age group.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: But again too, you can throw in there like people our age we grew up when you know, there was a mix of issue.
01:01:19
Speaker 15: There was a holden, that's right, there was some rea they've watched the hollowing out. That's what our polster costa Marus sort of he wrote quite a good thing on it, he said. He said, they're they're financially stressed, their rent, they're carrying a heavy mortgage, they're they're running out of runway, and they're working lives. They're trying to retire a lot of them, you know, they were tradees, work with their hands. He says, the most disrupted generation in modern Australia have been through three recessions, the effects of globalization, the hollowing out of manufacturing and all these traditional industries. And I've sort of lived through it all, and I guess they're just a bit worn out by it all. And you know, when Pauline comes along and offers, you know, we don't really offer solutions, but she's, as I said, the easiest thing in politics has to identify the problem, not fix it. But he's very good at identifying the problem. And then that doesn't mean they'll vote for her the next election. But if you ring them up now on pole them, that's where they're parking their vote.
01:02:12
Speaker 4: At the moment. Conversely, though, and I saw Nick Kayta, who you're hard to kill him a bleeding heart, you know, heads up the Menzies Institute for the Libs for a very long time writing in The Australian talking about her burker antics the other day being exactly the kind of thing that will stop a lot of people from voting for her.
01:02:30
Speaker 15: That's right. Everyone was really surprised when she did that, because, as we've just been discussing, she's in the last six months, she's attracted what you call mainstream voter support. It's a bit like you know, labor voters drifting towards the Greens, you know, during the last term, and they were drifting towards one Nation for those reasons we're just talking about. And then she walks into the Senate and does that dumb stunt with a burker really for no reason. It's not like it's topical or anything like that, and that reminds people, actually, you they are a bit nuts. And you know, I know the Liberal Party was sort of pretty happy she did that because they were having that same reaction, hoping people sort of have pause for thought. We saw it last election, Dave on the other side, when the Greens just went too radical, you know, screaming in your face about Palestine and the CFM EU and stuff, and a lot of people who are attracted to the Greens made of environmental reasons said no, no thanks, and they went back to the Labor Party and the Green's got clobbered quite badly the election, lost three of their four seats. And that's where Hanson has to be careful.
01:03:28
Speaker 4: If she sort of pulls.
01:03:29
Speaker 15: Those nut stunts, then you know, it'll be a short lived, a short lived renaissance. And this is why Barnaby Joyce is going to one nation. I mean that the whole plan is that Pauline Hants will be seventy four at the next election, so she's not going to go much beyond that. And the whole point is for Joyce to take over. And Joyce isn't a race guy, right, He's just more into the you know, the energy and all these sorts of things, you know, the grievances, and you know a lot of posters think they'll be a bit more for a lot more formidable actually once he actually takes over, because you won't be doing much of the nutty stuff. Oh yeah, his nutty standards.
01:04:07
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, great stuff. Phil. You've got to answer that phone, yeah right, exclusive.
01:04:13
Speaker 15: Coming speaking of trading, bring me twenty minutes before you come around. And he's probably saying you can't turn up.
01:04:24
Speaker 4: Have you got someone coming to polish your deck? Mate? No? If only mate yourself.
01:04:29
Speaker 15: No, I do. I'm an idiot.
01:04:32
Speaker 4: Therapist, must be happy that you're still doing it.
01:04:35
Speaker 15: I do is work.
01:04:38
Speaker 4: Slaving away over a hot tabloid in the garden.
01:04:41
Speaker 15: No, he's an electrician. It's all good, excellent.
01:04:44
Speaker 4: Good on your film.
01:04:48
Speaker 2: All right, let's check traffic and when we return education minutes to Blair Boy will join.
01:04:52
Speaker 3: Us at David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:04:56
Speaker 2: Eight minutes to weight. We're gonna try by jury coming up very shortly before that, though, I just want to read you a little bit of the ties. As reporting on the Glenunga International High School police investigation, about which some significant details was released yesterday, the Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams revealed that some of the how the threats were being made, some of the common phrases that were using, examples of images, one of which was a spider incorporated in the school logo. Another depicts the logo constructed of spider's broken legs. Now, someone who goes by the alias Brian Cole had issued threats to the school sent from a shared computer most week nights after nine pm between November nineteen, twenty twenty four and May thirteen of this year. They do know the computer had the gaming platform Steam and the game Blackmith Wukong installed on it as well. Now that behavior changed in the middle of this year, So the suspicion is that there was some change to this Brian Cole's living circumstances that meant they had reduced access to a computer. It's a mystery who this person is. It's not a mystery what kind of impact that has on the school community. And that's what concerns our next guess the Education minister Blair boy a minister. Good morning to you, you're their minister.
01:06:16
Speaker 7: No, good morning to you.
01:06:17
Speaker 4: Oh there is Blair boy Education and Police minister. And this is an issue that really could not intersect anymore with your twin portfolios. Can I just ask at the start minister reading about the students at Glenunger International High School doing evacuation drills being given what my understanding is the requisite level of information without making them completely paranoid, but also advising them that there is a security issue that needs to be addressed. It must be a very difficult balancing act.
01:06:58
Speaker 7: It absolutely is, and I understand too. You know when parents whose kids go to the school and students themselves, you know, would be rightfully concerned when they hear details like this that have been released by Saypole yesterday. I don't live in a you know, false reality or I think people aren't going to be worried when they hear those details and you know, wonder about whether it's safe and things like that. I totally understand that. But our number one goal here in terms of the police investigation is how we can find this person and stop this from happening. And what worries me and keeps me awake at night is that we can't do that, and we are in a situation where this is kind of endlessly hanging over the school community's head without resolution, and I don't want that. So this is the next stage that investigation from Saypole, where they have decided to share very specific information as we just heard, we'll read out in the whole that that might trigger the memory of someone at the school and might be able to put some of the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle together so we can actually find who is doing this.
01:08:09
Speaker 4: This might be straying into sort of police intel space. So I understand if you can't answer, but I think an average person reading this piece would draw the same conclusion that I did as an average person reading it, which is it sounds like for someone to be this fixated on the school and to be drawing logos and what have you do the police think that they're probably an ex student.
01:08:35
Speaker 7: That was a question that was put to the Deputy Commissioner yesterday in the press conference, and I think I can say that that possibility wasn't ruled out. I suspect the answer is we don't know, but we can't definitively say that that is not the case. But the thing that stands out here for me, Dave, is how digital technology can enable someone who it seems like is you know, living in a shared house with a shared computer, to you know, make threats like this with anonymity. And it's that's it turns out for me, which makes the investigations so difficult, is this digital technology gives people like that the ability to make really serious threats like this towards the school community. Essentially from it sounds like the lounge room at home, And you know that's I think I've concerned everyone. But it also shows how this investigation is complex and why SAPOL are doing steps and taking steps like this, which I support of course, despite the fact that I know it's a tough time for the school community.
01:09:42
Speaker 4: Well, I got to say, I mean, this school it's got it's probably got close to the best reputation of any state school any It's almost like it's the state school you have when you're not sending your kids to a private school. Like it it's that those South Australia Sorry what was Evanston?
01:09:58
Speaker 7: Sorry? Best nap land results in South Australia.
01:10:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, of all schools. Yeah, like people who zoned for glen Unger and a lot of people trip over themselves to get in there, Like it's a hugely successful school, Minister.
01:10:10
Speaker 2: How broad is the our incidents of sort of digital threats or inappropriate andness directed towards schools? Obviously nothing as concentrated as this. But is it widespread?
01:10:23
Speaker 7: No, it's not. I can safely say it's not. It's incredibly rare what we do find. You still get every now and then the kind of someone makes the false bomb threat. That's incredibly rare in my time, and what I've noticed is when one of those is made, it's often followed by a couple of copycat ones where people decide they know they like the idea of that and having a school have to evacuate, and they do the same things. But I can say it with my hand on my heart, it is incredibly rare for anything like that.
01:10:54
Speaker 2: Well, I was actually it's funny you mentioned the bomb threat example and the copycats, because I was reading the story this morning wondering if the level of attention this case is now getting might trigger similar behavior. Do you have any concern about copycats when it comes to this kind of digital terror?
01:11:10
Speaker 7: Yes, I do, Yes, I do. I think I'd be safe in saying, say, Paul, of course do. And there are all things they consider before they take any steps like this step, because sadly, there are people out there who hear things like this happening decide they might do the same thing. So yes, that is absolutely a concern. But what I always come back to is both Minister for Education and Minister for Police is the worst case scenario on my mind is that we can't get a resolution and the community has to live with this hanging over their head. So I really support, say Paul doing everything it can to try to find the person who is doing it so that we can actually find have a resolution and try to put the school community at ease.
01:11:54
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming on, Minister Blair boy, the Minister for Education and Police. It's such a complicated thing. And there's a piece in the TiSER today written by Glenunger International High School Parent, which I think is a compelling read. And as a parent, it's hard to know how you'd feel other than just genuinely anxious knowing that your child is in a school that is being harassed to this extent. But the piece says, you know, oh, the kids are practicing lockdown and evacuation drills, the security patrols. There's an insane amount of bright orange and white ballards that suddenly appeared. What's the school meant to do if they're getting the threats, they need to try to keep the shell on the road and reassure people blandly, look, we're on top of this. You know, those buyards and things are put there for a reason. You know, when you consider how how lurid and off the chart some of the threats of violence were equally though don't you look at you look at all the stuff that's come out and the over the top nature of the threat, you know, boiling oil and all this sort of stuff, and then you see the dead spiders legs and jars of honey and maple syrup, and it does make you think, here is just someone who is seriously, seriously unwell, and that it looks like a mental health story as opposed to a sort of Columbine story.
01:13:28
Speaker 2: Sure, but there are plenty of medical stories that manifest in violent or gruesome ends.
01:13:35
Speaker 4: That's true. That is true.
01:13:37
Speaker 2: We have seen it some pretty dramatic, horrible examples of that. And so how the Australian recent years that is one hundred percent trough. It just a deeply unpleasant it is. It is most definitely.
01:13:47
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:13:51
Speaker 2: But it's after right. The South Australian Business Chambers put out some data around South Australian business confidence outpacing the rest of the nation interested interrogating that after eight o'clock today, but also as a component of that, they have also revealed the number of South Australian businesses using artificial intelligence. It has spiked in just the last twelve months. Lots to talk about with the South Australian Business Chamber. We'll get into that after eight thirty Today. It is of course a week where we're shining a light on buying local, buying South Australian the lead up to Christmas as well celebrating the spirit of the season with South Australian produce and experiences. So all week on five Double A Breakfast, we're going to be speaking with local legends behind some of your favorite South Australian brands. And when we do, remember you can always win a fantastic prize just by getting involved. All thanks to Brand Assay, Support Local and buys A four USA. Look for the State logo on products during your Christmas shop.
01:14:51
Speaker 4: Well, the South Australian Liberals have announced their position on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, which was a pre election promise made by Peter Malanowskas ahead of his twenty twenty two election victory. After elections last year, the Voice is now up and running and has made two formal presentations to the State Parliament, the most recent of which came two weeks ago. Well, the Libs aren't happy with it. But we have some questions about whether they're trying to scrap it, repeal it, reform it, change it, add to it, and to flesh those out. We're joined now by the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Affairs, Josh t Josh, good morning and thank you for your morning.
01:15:29
Speaker 9: Good morning if your listeners.
01:15:30
Speaker 4: So what is the position, Well, the Voice still exists. If are you tazi a government is elected, our.
01:15:37
Speaker 9: Position hasn't changed. Our position has been the same throughout and that is that we want a body that is representing Aboriginal people in South Australia to government and to Parliament to be workable and productive in the interest of the original people. And that's why I called out this legislation before it was passed as a defective model. It's while we're support it, and it's why I've had a private member's bill on the notice paper this entire Parliament that would reform and improve it. Now what we've heard, Danny, the Joint Presiding Member, came and addressed to Parliament second key address for the Voice just recently thirteen November and eloquent address and special occasion in the parliamentary year. What was clear from that was that this body has had some engagement with government, it's had some engagement with chief executives. And what's also abundantly clear is that it's had it's had no use for the means by which it's so called a voice to Parliament. And that's because the model for engagement to Parliament is totally unworkable, always always was, and so we haven't changed. We're completely consistent, and I've been calling on Kaian Maher and the government to adopt a workable model since before it was passed. At the one briefing that Kay and marr A forwarded me in the weeks leading up, I actually said to him, have you missed the trick here? Have you missed the key marked? Because the bill that established this voice actually dismantled the long standing parliamentary committee dedicated to engagement with Aboriginal people, and unlike our model that we actually introduced in government, contrary to what the Premiere failed to recall, which set up the means by which a proper representative body of Aboriginal people could engage with a parliamentary committee with all the powers of parliament, inquiries, evidence, you name it, what it's elected to do, which is totally contrary to that, and your listeners will relate to this. It's put it over in a corner and said, oh look what we've given you. We've given you this bright, shiny thing that we call of Voice to Parliament. But it's just not that at all and Australian.
01:18:05
Speaker 4: But the key question, though, Josh Teigue, is if it's that bad, are you going to get rid of the Voice?
01:18:13
Speaker 9: What we're what we're going to do is to implement the bill that I have had on the notice paper the entire Parliament. And let's be clear, every Wednesday Parliament sits, I've moved to progress debate on it. The government has shut it down.
01:18:30
Speaker 4: In simple terms, what does that bill do? Because I mean, you know what the views of the rank and file Liberal Party are about the Voice. Indeed, a lot of labor voting seats in South Australia, like Spence had the highest no vote when it was put to the test at a federal referendum. They want it scrapped. Are you scrapping the Voice or you're just introducing a new committee that will sit on top of the Voice.
01:18:52
Speaker 9: What South Australians can expect Liberal government to do is to make anybody that is functioning in the interest of Ooriginal people workable and productive, and so we will we will improve and render productive.
01:19:06
Speaker 15: Uh.
01:19:07
Speaker 9: The the the body that's there, now we've already seen, you know, and it's been it's been said far and wide.
01:19:13
Speaker 2: So hang on. Just to be clear, your criticism of the Voice, Josh Tiger, is that it it doesn't go far enough.
01:19:19
Speaker 6: It just doesn't work.
01:19:20
Speaker 2: So it needs to be it needs to be enlarged.
01:19:23
Speaker 9: What it needs is to is for the Parliament and for the government to adopt a bit more of an attitude of humility and say, if you're going to hold up some so called significant step for Aboriginal people, you better make them work.
01:19:35
Speaker 2: So would you would your bill, see I see the taxpayer spend more on the voice.
01:19:41
Speaker 9: Look, it's not it's not about money.
01:19:43
Speaker 2: It is a taxpayer. Would you will your will, your version of the Voice ultimately spend more than the incumbent version.
01:19:51
Speaker 9: I strongly doubt that. And you only have to go back to the consultation that doctor Roger Thomas did and I presided over his address to the Parliament Historic No several years ago. Now, we we won't be wasting public money on a model that doesn't work, and you talk about other things that are cause of prostration. Obviously, to date the elected model has has you know, it's just it's just not worked.
01:20:20
Speaker 2: And so it hasn't worked. I just want to drill down on this. So you're going to add an extra layer and not spend any more money?
01:20:28
Speaker 9: No, and on that, because we're not going to add an extra layer. And and Kai Mar has said, we're all over the place and this is a joke or an added layer of bureaucracy. On the contrary, it strips away what what can only be described as you know, as as symbolism and gesture and replaces it with substance and productivity.
01:20:52
Speaker 4: Just to be clear that, Josh, will there still be a state voice, will there still still be the six regional voice? And will there still be elections?
01:21:04
Speaker 9: What we'll do. What we'll do first is to ensure that if it's called a voice to Parliament, then it actually has a means of engagement with Parliament.
01:21:14
Speaker 7: And I've got to.
01:21:15
Speaker 9: Say that, you know, liberals are about focusing on what will work and what is productive and not on symbolic gestures.
01:21:23
Speaker 2: So fair to say a vote for Vincentazi will see a strengthening of the voice here in South Australia of the Voice to Parliament.
01:21:30
Speaker 9: I'd say that that will certainly occur. And what will occur is that is that what will happen is you'll have a body that will be able to inspire confidence not only among broaders South Australians, but among Aboriginal people themselves. You know, the presiding members leaders of the Voice hugely conscious of this. You don't have to listen to what they've said publicly, and so far what we've seen is a body that, so far as engagement the Parliament is concerned, has proved itself to be ineffective. And as I said before the bill was passed, it's a defective model. It should surprise nobody that it hasn't actually proved to be Just can.
01:22:15
Speaker 4: I just ask exactly the same question again, because you just said again the voice is defective. Will there still be a voice under Atarzi a liberal government?
01:22:24
Speaker 9: Yes, there will. But the magic is not in the name, David. The magic is in the work that it does. And you only have to go back over the choices that labor has made to see how Aboriginal representation, particularly to Parliament has gone backwards rather than become more productive. And you know, you can ask anyone who's close to the process and I think you'll get a consistent answer. What is at the base of what we will do at all times will be focused on work ability and productivity. And as I said to you right at the beginning of this conversation, like all your listeners, expect day to day workability, productivity. That's what we've said consistently. I'm on the record for now the better part of three years with a model for improvement and that's exactly what we'll do. So you know, you say, will there still be a voice under a liberal government, It won't be recognizable in terms of this present structure. What it will be is something that works in the interest of Aboriginal people and Alsouth Australian.
01:23:34
Speaker 4: Josh t the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Affairs, thank you for joining us this morning.
01:23:43
Speaker 2: They are a unique entity to see how Australian book part, aren't they? I mean that among liberal movements in the country. So just the scorecard now is the Federal Liberal Party campaign against the Voice. The South Australian Liberal Party are now campaigning to strengthen the voice. Josh t said that they are campaigning on a platform of net zero in South Australia as the federal Liberal Party are voting to abandon net zero. It's just it's a by way of understatement, a very independent arm of the Liberal Party with the Liberal movement naturally.
01:24:17
Speaker 4: I think the bigger issue might go to one of incomprehensibility based on the feedback on the text line Crich you should just just text after text after text. See. I did a piece of The Australian yesterday trying to tease this out and spoke directly to Vincent Tazi about what is the position. This is a significant thing. You know, we're unique in Australia. We're the only parliament that has this legislated voice. It's been up and running for two years now. The Libs under David Spears they had a different model which was for this aboriginal representative body, not the voice, and the position was totally different to Labors. But what I can't understand is that this is remarkable disconnection. So many people are Conservative voters are texting us now going once again a Liberal party too scared to have a point of difference Josh Tigue as clear as mud, I want to vote Liberal, but what a joke. Scrap the voice is a simple action to make clear the decks and start again. Another one, This interview is exactly why the Liberals are going to get smashed at the next day of election. This one here, Unfortunately the Liberals are a train wreck. Another one Josh, Australia voted no. Another one here Peter and Mano para guys. Vincentazi has lost my vote. They don't even know what they're proposing with the so called voice change. Is another one here, Dave. We don't want a bloody voice to Parliament. You know, the piece I wrote in the Odds had almost more than two hundred readers going good, a clear position, And it's like now that maybe I accidentally beat the story up, because now that the perception that they had a clear position on it where to a man and woman, everyone who read that article in the Australian Conservative voters going good about time, It's like, hang on, that's not really what we meant. It's just and it comes down to the schizoid identity crists gripping this party, which is we want to hold seats in out of suburbia. We want to win back seats in out of suburbia, but we don't want to upset people only and Marialta and Morphat who voted yes to.
01:26:43
Speaker 2: Which the consternation federal around that zero has proven because we have hard polling data that shows in inner suburban scenes, in and out of suburban seats, there is a view that something needs to be done about the climate that's been born out in the polling. So I get the DIFFI goodly they are forming a position there. But we had pretty strong polling about the voice too, and there was not an overlap with that sort of issue. It was pretty clear that it was unpopular everywhere.
01:27:12
Speaker 4: Well, the only places where it was popular though, were the really rich parts of town, sure like, I think it had its highest vote in Millswood or Goodwood or something like that. You know, the only places where it got big support was in seats that are currently held by David PERSONI, which might explain why no one really has any clear idea what the Liberals are going to do about it.
01:27:37
Speaker 2: They've got bigger issues than just trying to win Unley at the moment, just trying to win any metropolitan seat.
01:27:43
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01:27:47
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01:30:44
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01:30:44
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01:30:46
Speaker 3: Five News David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast twenty.
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Speaker 2: Minutes to nine. A moment ago we were joined in the studio by Linda Kirtlin from Bailey's who do the their Apicurean Delights, the Levat and so forth. She mentioned on the way out her father and father in law Graham and Colin longtime five double a breakfast listeners. So good morning you Graham and Colin, and Graham and Colin absolutely Legends men of obvious takes exactly right. Wasicurian good word will from Epicurus, god of biscuits. I think that they called. That's not my own work, that one. That was the call.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, the Epicurian Delight, Baily's Epicurian Delight exactly right now on a cheese plate.
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Speaker 2: They do delight. Hey, we're going to delight over the course of the next thirty minutes with surprising to give away. Oh yeah, we have our Legends Lounge of course. Kate from Cumberland Park currently on the Legends Lands, so we're going to contest that very shortly. That is an opportunity to get the prize of a lifetime ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture could be yours if you're occupying the Legends Lounge Pole position. Friday next week, Kate has it this morning, Kate could keep winning. We'll find out she'll be back next with a new contestant in just a few moments time. But before that, Leigh Forrest has been out about meeting great local businesses for our five double A twelve Days of Christmas. Today he's chatting with Will Overall from Adelaide Zoo. So if you'd like to win a family pass to the zoo and a giraffe feed for the whole family. My daughter would love that. She loves the drafts escape to the world over the holidays at the Adelaide Zoo. Get calling now eight double two three, double A double five Adelaide Zoo dot com dot au for what's on and when Well.
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Speaker 23: Overall is the visitor Experience manager here at the Zoo. This has got to be the world's best work close.
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Speaker 18: Yes, it's not too bad. It's love for coming in here each day and particularly on days like this where the weather it's beautiful. In the animals round about.
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Speaker 23: Oh, we're sitting here in the panda exhibit. How they're going.
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Speaker 18: They're doing very well actually so yeah. Both these new panthers arrived earlier in the year. Elan and sing Chu and bringing a lot more I guess youth and energy.
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Speaker 22: Again.
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Speaker 18: We love the two previous we had, but yeah, it's a real joy for the visitors to see these younger pandas.
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Speaker 23: So the two pandas and new edition. She've got more additions to the zoo.
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Speaker 18: Yes, we've also got some amazing Cappy Boroughs, so we had three Capybarro brothers have arrived from Sydney again earlier in the year. They're doing really well and there's the experience as well that goes with that, where you can sort of head in, get a bit closer and give them a scratch, which is quite cool. There's also a lot of younger monkeys as well, so there's some coll of us babies kicking around who are very cheeky and fun to watch.
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Speaker 23: The zoo is the best for the kids anyway. But do you do extra special things in the.
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Speaker 2: Holidays, Yeah, we do so.
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Speaker 18: We have an amazing events team. They'll put together a kid's trail or a kid's activity each school holiday period, so they're working through that at the moment. I sort of had a little look earlier and it was looking really really cool. So the kids will very much enjoy that one again this year.
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Speaker 23: Thank you for being part of the Twelve Days of Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, ippreciating. Yeah, magnificent job, Lief the Adelaide's it's not hard to sell. It's a great place to go. It's a lot of fun. That's going to be a terrific price for one of our listeners to the board is lit up and in Newton in fact is getting along to the Adelaide Zoo with that giraffe feed experience as well. You can get calling two on eight double two to three double five for the Legends Lounge. Thanks to Nordic Furniture, Kate in Cumberland Park will be one of the content essence we know the carryover. There are three questions. If you missed it yesterday, you need to get first to get two out of three and if you've managed to do so, you will occupy the Legends Lounge. We run this till Friday next week and someone's getting ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture. So get calling now if you'd like to contest eight double two three DOAA double five. If you think you can take on Kate in Cumberland Part give us a buzz and we'll get to that shortly. The South Australian economy is doing something pretty interesting at the moment, or at very least, and you know, in the true sense of economics, the most important part of this is what people's perception of the South Australian economy is. And the latest business confidence data would suggest South Australian's I see it as going better than the rest of the country. The September quarter survey saw the Essay Confidence Index rise six points six points to ninety point nine, the National Confidence Index climb four to eighty point seven. So why the confidence here in South Australia. Andrew Kay is the CEO of the Essay Business Chamber. Andrew, good morning to you, Good morning will to How would you answer that question, why have we seen a steeper rise in business confidence in South Australia when compared with the rest of the nation.
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Speaker 6: Well, we normally see some separation in our surveys from how we feel about the state versus the national picture. But what we're seeing isn't widen now survey after survey to this point where the GAP's teen points, which is the most significant we've seen. If you think about the messaging and the narrative that's coming out of South Australia at the moment around business confidence. There's been some national surveys that have said South Australia is the best place to do business. We've had some banking studies that have said similar things, and that's starting to build a picture about how we're feeling about our own situation. And this has been backed up probably in the last quarter, specifically by some steadying of sales orders, to the point that businesses are now looking forward to the quarter we're currently in December when they did this survey in saying how we actually things are going to pick up even further going into Christmas.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like the negative Nelly Andrew, but so many business owners I speak to, particularly small business owners, all they do is talk about power prices and some of these comparative surveys, like I mean criche, Well we compare ourselves to Victoria, we might as well compare ourselves to Venezuela the way their economy.
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Speaker 3: Is going.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 6: Dave, you make a great point, because these surveys don't make my job at an easier adpretating on behalf of the business South Australia and that the government ways waves are back of me. But it's important to realize here that when we say things are improving, there's a baseline score of one hundred, which is neutral. We're still sitting at ninety. We're not in the positive territory yet. And to your point, small businesses and we hear it from them all the time. They're letting us know that what we're experiencing here in essay is somewhat of what we call it two speed business economy. By that, I mean if you're part of the government supply chain, life's good, there's plenty of work, you're getting paid on time, happy days. If you're a small business, there's a lot of sectors that are doing it very tough still, and they're impacted by the fact that, as you said, their energy prices have never been higher, their insurance premiums have never been higher, wages are up, all the cost of inputs in their business have gone through the brief in the last couple of years. And at the same time mums and dads have been putting their hands in their pockets because there's been a cost of living crisis. So by no means to be out of the woods. But I'd rather be having tub Australia seen as a good place. It's a difficult place to do business.
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Speaker 4: Well that's right. I mean, you know, we're talking about the available pool of money for investment in Australia and it does come down to a question of Victoria of the SA for a lot of people on the southern half of the continent, and well, let's go to Adelaide. That's that's good.
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Speaker 6: That is good, and we're seeing and hearing hearing more of that. There's certainly businesses on the Eastern seaboard who see major infrastructure projects slowing down in that part of the country and they're head here to South Australia. And I speak to my counterparts into State and they're all asking, what is it that's happening at South Australia right now? Why is there of us about the state? And I put it down to major projects such as Aucus. But some things as basic and simple as major events like gather around that I see bring business leaders into the state who experience firsthand what's happening here. And there's a lot to be said for the power of those.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Andrew, I was really interested in a tidbit in this survey data that goes to the use of AI by businesses. You mentioned offsetting some of those input costs that are impacting business and it seems it's largely through using AI that businesses are seeing a way to improve their financial position. So according to your data, forty one point nine percent of businesses were not using AI a year ago, so forty two percent not using it twelve months ago, now just twenty four point two and not using So three quarters of businesses are using AI at the moment. And I find that really interesting because we keep talking at this AI revolution and certainly anecdotally you hear a lot about it, but it's the first time I've seen some local, rich South Australian data that goes to the uptake that we're seeing. And presumably it'll it'll continue, it.
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Speaker 6: Will, but there's a word of caution around this. Or eighteen months ago, I think we first asked the question will and it's about thirty percent of business using it, and then it nearly doubled a year ago, and now what's grown another twenty five percent or so into this survey despite the fact that nearly three quarters of businesses are using it When we ask them, hey, do you have a policy in place or some sort of guardrails around this in the workplace that says what programs you can use or how you can use them? Only sixteen seventeen percent of businesses actually have an AI policy. When we asked that question a year ago it was around thirteen or fourteen percent, So there has been very little change in the number of businesses that are actually taking care of how they manage ALI as opposed to those Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, the pitfalls can be very public and very embarrassing if you get it wrong. Andrew, thank you. We appreciate Andrew K the c SA Business Chamber with an interesting snapshot of the South Australian business scene.
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Speaker 4: Do you have use AI?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Lots? What for.
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Speaker 2: Generally answering any stupid query that ever pops into my head?
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Speaker 4: Did you just use it to answer the question I asked you?
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Speaker 15: Then?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 4: Can you get AI to sound like sort of disheveled fifty six year old radio presenter on Fridays and I can go on all four day week.
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Speaker 2: Don't don't even joke about it. Don't even joke. My fear is someone's already working on it somewhere. Yeah, someone called no for management exactly all right, funny. If you want to get on the newly sacked yourself on air, We've we've got Trevor, have we?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 2: That was exciting? Kate h Trevor coming up in just amindment for the Nordic Furniture Legends Lounge. Kate is the legend on the lounge at the moment. Can Trevor unseat her and then pave a path to ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture. We're going to find out on the other side of.
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Speaker 3: The break David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, five.
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Speaker 2: Minutes to nine. It's time for our Legends Lounge Quiz. Thanks to the wonderful people at Nordic Furniture. Wasn't it great getting in and seeing the craftsmen at work at Nordic Furniture with their excellent range of all sorts of stuff. Nordic Furniture crafting, bespoke, premium luxury furniture by hand right here in South Australia for fifty four years. We have one of the great prizes we've ever had to give away. It's a ten thousand dollars furniture package. You win it if you occupy the Legends lounge on the at the end of Friday show next week. Right now. The person on the lounge is Kate in Cumberland Park. You comfy there, Kate.
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Speaker 5: Very comfy.
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Speaker 8: I don't really want to get up.
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Speaker 15: Guys.
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Speaker 4: No, you don't have to, Kate.
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Speaker 2: If it's as simple, you need to be unseated, Kate, and the person trying to do it is Trevor Inport no longer South Morning, Trevor.
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Speaker 12: Morning there.
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Speaker 2: You can't, guys now. Kate knows the rules. But just for your benefit, Trevor, your name is your buzzer. The first to two correct answers wins and occupies the lounge. Kate and Trevor.
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Speaker 4: Are you ready?
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Speaker 9: Yep, yep, all right.
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Speaker 2: Question number one, how many sides does a heptagon have? Yes, Kate seven, Jesus good. Comfy on the couch.
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Speaker 4: Heard of a hepton?
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Question number two, what term for a female goat can also mean someone employed? Yes, Trevor many, oh, Trevor, Okay, it's ding dong. Now it gets exciting. One a piece. The next correct answer is occupying the Legends loungee Bacardi is a well known brand of what.
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Speaker 4: Do it?
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Speaker 2: Can we get a ruling there?
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Speaker 4: That felt like a dead heat? To me?
01:43:12
Speaker 2: That was a dead heat.
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Speaker 4: I reckon it was a dead heat.
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll go to the next question.
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Speaker 4: I think we're going to call that a dead heat on fairness.
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Speaker 2: Ground, we can't tell. We looked out to the booth and they gave us nothing, absolutely nothing. By the way, for.
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Speaker 4: The first time, frankly.
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Speaker 2: Well we just got a gesture in unison. Then it was like something befitting the Gallagher the media synchronized swimming. All right, we'll try this one. Here we go, Caate and Trevor. Seismology is the scientific study. Yes, Trevor, earthquake. Trevor, you are on the Legends Lounge and we'll be back tomorrow morning to contest again as as it can possibly be. Sorry, Kate, you're a great occupant. You got us off to a terrific start. Trevor, you'll be back on tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 6: All right, Thank you guys.
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Speaker 4: We'll give Kate some Wallace tickets as well. After the sheer nerve racking drama of the Bacardi question Bacardi being rum of course, but Trevor world done mate.
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Speaker 11: Thank you very much, got it all right.
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Speaker 2: We'll Trevor. We will chat again tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: S Porties represent in the in the Nordic Furniture Quiz.
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Speaker 2: They can get there, they can. They can transport the furniture down there to port no longer, don't worry about that. Oh yeah, nord they can get it overseas. They have sent pieces to Singapore recently.
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Speaker 4: Got to get it down there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can get it there. That was a lot of fun. So someone else is going on the Nordic well maybe not tread might be Trevor again. But another chance to occupy the Legends Lounge tomorrow thanks to Nordic Furniture. And of course we continue running the competition right through until Friday next week before we give it away. That is all from us on this Tuesday, the second of December, stick around, Graham Goodings is coming up after nine o'clock. We'll catch you tomorrow morning. From six, I was trying.
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Speaker 4: To you, Good morning listeners. Good morning will yeah Kate from cume On Park. To put it in the parlance of the Sale of the Century nineteen eighties, really it was a period when the game show ruled the earth. It was a golden earr, the Big Three. I would say were in order of my favorite sale of the century. Then Wheel of Fortune with Adelaide's own Adriana exempt filmed here.
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Speaker 2: I remember going to the set as a child, But then you can't go to the set.
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Speaker 4: Of anything else made here. Now, what about the news? What about the new Price is Right? How good was the new price is right? Ian Turpy? Price is right? The new price is right? I still love that show as a kid. So Kate is our carryover champ, as Tony Barber would have would have put it. Let's see how she goes today? Can you do nine in a row and go all the way through to win the ten thousand dollars voucher from our excellent friends at Nordic Furniture.
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Speaker 2: That is what we are hoping for. We have some tickets to give away in this first half hour to Oprah in conversation that's taking place this Saturday, the sixth of December at the Entertainment Center. Tickets on sale now from ticker tech. Vincent Tazia is announced a Minister for Adelaide's Nightlife. Well, he's going to announce it at the A h A lunch, A Minister for Adelaide's Nightlife inventoring a new a new ministry, a new portfolio. Since we're in the business of just inventing new ministries or new portfolios, what what other ministry to South Australian need. What's one specific issue we need someone taking carriage of, someone specifically taking control of like Vincentazi is minister for the night economy?
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Speaker 4: Is there a shadow minister for the night economy? Is Baden Tea in charge of partying or who is it not bad Josh Josh t Baden Tea is the late Baden Tea, lovely man, Josh Tig's dad. Who is is there a shadow minister? Have they this?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good point. Does it do they have do they have to Well? I guess they have to wait for the actual government to take to say. That's a good idea.
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Speaker 4: Theory. Maybe this is why Leon Bignall has announced his he's leaving the Labor Party. Ah, because if you were going to find the job of a lifetime, I've been doing it for free for years.
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Speaker 2: He's overqualified.
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Speaker 4: This is something the New South Wales Liberals tried. I think was it them? I'm not sure, And I think they did in response to effectively shotting the city under some of their anti drinking policies and then they sort of swung around the other way. But yeah, do we need a Do we need a Minister for nighttime economy? Or how about this, do we need a minister for Adelaide? Do we need a Do we need a minister who instead of all this endless faffon around about Hut Street where they're going to blow millions of dollars interminable chin scratching about, there's going to be quite a lot of trees in all Cadelaide that could be in the frame for the Saudi Back to Live golf tournament. How about there's a Minister for Adelaide who just said, you know what, these are the dates for the v eights next year and if you don't like it, go to Melbourne for the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Eight double two. Yeah, I think I think you're on to something. Eight double two three double a double A minister for the night economy? What is a new minister we need here in South Australia. Let us know and you could win Oprah Winfrey tickets. You can text us too on zero before it's zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 4: About the Minister for food and wine. What is more South Australian than this for the iconic sort of.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that problem suffers a bit from Vincent's problem, and that they both report to the Hospitality Minister.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, see Vincent's.
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Speaker 2: We're starting to get a clearer picture of Vincent's view and it seems that what's going wrong in South a Stralias we need more government. So we need a nightlife Minister to report to the Hospitality Minister, and we need a Voice that reports to another body that then reports to Parliament. So with the problems, we just to have enough stuff. We do noough people reporting to each other.
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Speaker 4: Do you understand their position on the voice?
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Speaker 2: They don't understand. Their position of the voice.
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Speaker 4: Seems reasonably straightforward. It's not a tricky question.
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Speaker 2: They think, well, can I try and articulate it. They think the voice model is broken. They think it's delivering absolutely nothing of value to the South Australian people. They're definitely not repealing it. They're just adjusting it by adding some more to it.
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Speaker 4: This thing's so bad that we're probably going to keep it that change it slightly.
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Speaker 2: Can you fact check that? Is that sort of broadly what it seems to be.
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Speaker 4: It's just weird, isn't it. That's the term ten meters out, dead in front, no man on the mark. Even labor people voted over when we were against it. In South Australia, like if you look at the referendum results, the highest no vote was in the blue collar working class seat of Spence. It falls into their it just in South Australia, in the whole country. You know the old saying, if you're standing in the middle of the road long enough, you get run over. Well, you know, mah, what's that. That's the freight train coming.
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Speaker 2: It's it's roughly akin to the net zero position. The straight of the party has no.
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Speaker 4: I think it's identical where well, actually no, that's different because that's where the parliamentary parties said no, we're going to take net zero. This this one. I think he was asked to come on. He was given a chance to come on the show yesterday to talk about the voice. We've got a cricket sound.
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Speaker 2: We can get one, Patty, you'll get one for that offer. Still there, try to wake out what it is. I guess jeez, let's go declare, Jeff, what do we did the Minister for.
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you'd call this one, but we need a Minister to enforced judges that once somebody's broken bay or after that, they go to jails to fix up this youth crime. And you know, we need to need somebody that will come down hard on things.
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Speaker 2: A minuester for jail time.
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Speaker 4: How about Jeff, we call it, give it a fancy name, the Minister for judicial accountability, A Minister for justice. Yeah, miss for justice, that's what Trump would call it. Yeah, Minister for war, Minister for real justice, Minister for no ponsi, Attorney general or.
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Speaker 2: Corrections in this family conference.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, drug diversions.
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Speaker 2: How about ten years jail for Jeff. You're Peter and Bodbury, Good morning morning gents.
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Speaker 6: We've got to have a Minister for council affairs, don't we.
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Speaker 7: Someone that can look into.
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Speaker 4: All the lines and corruption are just the incompetence would be a start. Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more.
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Speaker 2: We again, again, to borrow from a Trump the Trump playbooks opposed having a local government minister. I like where Peter is heading a Minister for local government misconduct. There's the presumption of misconduct of the title or a Minister for no Local Government whose job it is to spend the four years and four years only phasing it out and importantly identifying all the many, many, many, many excellent people who work at councils with a view to getting things done service delivery, good ideas for the community, things like how do you make parking easier not harder? Quarantine All of them say you're going to join the new service delivery unit of the state government absorbed into the Department of Local Government. And other people who want to have poetry competitions to make the Alga bloom go away, they can go and do something else for a living. Don't knock that they We had a lot of fun with that yesterday. Were forever in Moira Aware's debt. I think on that one totally, David Albert and good morning morning boys.
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Speaker 8: This problems plagued this state for far too long.
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Speaker 9: Damn it, Minister for winning Home AFL finals.
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Speaker 2: Totally, totally well. In fact, that needs to be escalated to a royal commission now, doesn't it. We gonna have a minister with carriage for it, but we need someone to with true investigative powers to make recommendations out it can never happen again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and broader powers to you. What about as part of it, you'll also be the Minister for integrity in the draw you know where you'd be the one on the blower to the Victorians. So hang on, Spanks, We've got ten home games in a row to win the year.
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Speaker 2: I think our South Australian Minister for the integrity of the Afield Drawer is a bit similar to local government solving climate change, though it's beyond our power, is that one? I think? Nineteen after six plenty coming through the text slide, you can win yourself Oatra tickets to go along and see Oprah in conversation this Saturday. What does South Australia need a minister for?
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Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast. David Penberthy and Well Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes after six. We're giving away some Oprah tickets this morning. Your chance to win a double pass to see Oprah Winfrey in conversation coming to Adelaide this Saturday the Entertainment Center. Tickets are on sale from ticket Tech. We're asking for ministries. That's South Australian needs in our government. Yeah, given VISITAZI has invented the or plans to invent the Ministry for the night economy. And we really read Nick's text David, because we've got a good chuckle.
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Speaker 4: Nick from wind Vail, Nige Jones from Western Australia could be our Minister for nightlife. He knows all the good spots. He's so good at nightlife. He could be azarre. So Nick would be able to also being a partner up with the Minister for the Status of Women because he's really good at going to licensed premises that only employ women exactly right, make sure they're all being well looked after and are steal Indeed.
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Speaker 2: He's all about punching through glass ceilings night. We should definitely get him more bored for a tourism campaign. Come to South Australia, Sam, what do we need a minister for?
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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I mean we can make fun of this, but on a serious note, we really need a minister to use gain crime. I mean you read the news every every every day there and you can see that the crime is out of control, So I think use gain crying m hmm, yep, Well.
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Speaker 4: There's been plenty of it in the news. Sam, what about what about yesterday's competition? About the poetry against Karennia, Micha Motory and Christata don't miss it Star of Grace eight pm. This this Thursday is going to be big, given the work we've been doing biblicizing it. It's going to be the modern It's going to be the Yeah, you're you're a local down there, dad, I'm in town. I'm not I'm not making a special I'm not well. I don't know, I don't know. It depends. There's still plenty of time to write the sort of you know, office magnus poem.
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Speaker 2: You're a talented writer. You should definitely do it.
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Speaker 4: But the reason I mentioned it, people are still entering yesterday's competition even though it's even though it's I suppose were allowed to, aren't they? They can if they want to do whatever. There was one here. There once was a mayor from Onkaparinga who really had quite a stinker. She helped on a plane with nothing to gain. She really needs to have a hard thinker. Thank you. This person keeps hiding the light under a bushel. Given exactly right, I'll tell you he doesn't hide their light under the under a bushel and that is our in house artificial intelligence band, the Chatterboxes who have taken to disco in.
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Speaker 2: Energy. I think that's bitsa Tazi's election theme right there. You have that one for free. We're going to Minister for nightlife from the Chatterboxes.
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Speaker 4: You can see the slogan coming together now, can't you? For the Libs given the plan to abolish stamped it, which you're going to cost the budget about one hundred and twenty trillion dollars or something over the next three days, no taxes, GI, just party. How goods that sound?
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Speaker 2: I'd vote for that.
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Speaker 4: A bit like the synth player at the end of Spinal Tap when Rob Bryan as Marty Deburgi says if you had a life, creedle or a philosophy, what would it be? And he just goes have a really good time all the time.
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Speaker 2: We might take one more Carlos and him and Valley. What does South Australian Minister for Minister for common sense?
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Speaker 4: Currently?
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Speaker 11: That portfolio is pretty small, but I think it's one that should be expanded.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bigger budget. Thank you, Carlos. Twelve fourty eight degrees outside at the barb and headed for the top of twenty two. No rain today, which is notable for the moment. It's going to start feeling like summer over the next couple of days thirty Tomorrow, thirty three, Thursday twenty six and sunny Friday, then a drizzle. It drops back Saturday to twenty two, but only a little bit twenty three Sunday, and then back to twenty seven on Monday. That's more what we're talking about, and that also coincides with a little cricket match. It's coming up shortly too. Tom Rin here to talk all sport colors, custom design, anyhouse, any style, glatt or garage doors, gltter dot com dot Are you morning ready?
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Speaker 12: Morning Will morning David? Yes, Third Test not too far away. But before we get there, of course, the second test starting Thursday. Let's get our crystal ball out, shall we work out who's going to play? This is what I'm thinking and I think will happen on Thursday.
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Speaker 2: So it's not just what you want, is what you think is gonna happen.
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Speaker 4: This is what I think is going to happen.
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Speaker 12: So talking to a few people, I reckon this is how Australia will line up on Thursday. Travis Head will open or some kouwaj are gone. I reckon Josh Engleis will bat at five, bo Webster will bat at eight Wow, and Nathan Light will be out of the side.
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Speaker 2: So no spinner.
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Speaker 12: Webster can well he can bowl some right arm off breaks yep, but no recognize spinner Josh Ingless at five, Travis Head opening, That's what I'm might head with weather Head.
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Speaker 2: With weather Ord. That's a long batting lineup, isn't.
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Speaker 12: It's a long batting lineup.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's one way of batting our lack of quality, and that's with overwhelming quantity.
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Speaker 12: Green will bout at six carry seven and English at five, so we'll see if it happens. But I reckon maybe I.
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Speaker 2: Don't hate that at all.
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Speaker 4: No, I think it makes sense. I don't think Lion has been and he's clearly had matches over the years where he's been like pivotal. He's one games. There's one games in the second innings. I'm turning pitches, but we paced friendly pitches in Australia against an opponent that the way they play if they do get their own and decide to go after Lione. He could actually be a liability. What's he doing in the side at all?
00:16:41
Speaker 2: Well, so with tests the way England play them, they don't necessarily going to get to a day five scuffed up. That's a good point.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and they don't tend to spin as much do they with the pink ball? So yeah, look, anyway, I think that might be a that might be a bit of a smoky that test line up, But we'll see, we'll see what happens on that this day. Yeah, So to be intriguing, I'm sure you would have called it a little bit yesterday of the Crows in Port Adelaide. Calum Archie looks good, doesn't. He spoke last night just on the his roots to come into Adelaide and the connection that he had and the fact that he sort of has always had a bit of a soft spot for the Crows.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, my dad loved Andrew McLeod and picked Adelaide as his team and they won the premiership in ninety seven, which is the year I was born, So it kind of made sense to follow in dad's footsteps, And yeah, I loved Andrew McLeod as well, and my brother actually went on.
00:17:35
Speaker 7: To play for Port.
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Speaker 12: That was Brandon Archie of course, who played at Port Adelaide. But Callum now comes to the Crows to complement that forward line. He looked big, he looks strong. He's a good big game player. I don't think he's got to be your game breaking, you know, player that wins you the game from the midfield, but he's going to be that. He's had a really good record in big games and with the Crows forward line the way it's structured, he'll be a great addition. They just need to get there.
00:18:01
Speaker 2: It's similar like to the Alex Neil Bullen edition last year week the's a professional seasoned adults. That's what Calamarchie is. Spot on. Yep. So I'll tell you what though in my mind, I think Calamarchie's good veteran. How much experiences he got, you know, it's nice to have an older head in the room.
00:18:18
Speaker 4: He was born in.
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Speaker 2: Nine I know, I know, it's scary.
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Speaker 4: That's better. And then when they're born this century and like, yeah, I suppose it makes sense. People have been born the century, including our children, but.
00:18:31
Speaker 2: It's still hard to grasp good Stuff any.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthie and World Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes to seven. We need to give away Oprah tickets for the first half hour. The various intrigues for the ministry that our Australia needs given. Vincentazi is inventing the new ministry for the night economy. Does one stand out to you day but that we can send along the wait for this weekend.
00:18:54
Speaker 4: Oh now, let's let's think I reckon, Let's give it to Pete Mowbray.
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Speaker 2: All right, Peteon Modbra, you've got it coming at your way. Congratulations to you. Off to see Oprah in conversation Coming to Adelaide Saturday, sixth of December at the Entertainment Center. Tickets on sale now from ticker tech. I love a text we received a short time ago. This is the Christmas Spirit about a weed on a median strip that's so overgrown in the on Capringer Council area that someone has decorated as a Christmas tree. But now it's between Colonnades and card Iron College and it looks spectacular. If anyone else has seen us seen it, let us know what a great protest about the failure to clear verges.
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Speaker 4: I got to say that that is there a new weed. I've got a feeling that that photo has been around in the past. I don't know if it's one of those things that gets reposted every Christmas, like the terrific shop signed down at Victor Harbor from years back. It cannot be you.
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Speaker 2: Think so you think this might not be a new diverse or someone tell us so we're being told it's between Cardine College and Colonnades.
00:20:06
Speaker 4: Well, there's a Facebook post on it.
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Speaker 2: We'll have a Can someone confirm the we dressed up as a Christmas tree or is it dated? Let us know eight double two to three double double O textus on zero be four eight zero thirteen ninety five. We'd love to hear from you. The other thing we want to hear from you on Paddy and m need some help because we set them the impossible task. Inspired by Bruce mcavan. He's gong which give the man all the gongs. I love Bruce magavan. He's just the best. He's been honored with a wonderful recognition from the World Athletics Federation, the President's Award, and he did this terrific speech it's fantastic. As I say, love Bruce deserves every one and that can possibly come his why one of the true professionals of the game. We asked Patty and m for seven before seven this morning, come up with the seven best moments of commentary of all time. They need some help, not because there's too few, but because there's too many. So two to three double double a text us on zero before zero, eight, thirteen ninety five and help them just narrow down with weight of number the list. What should feature in a list of the top seven commentary moments of all time?
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Speaker 4: I think some of our English listeners would like the line from nineteen sixty six that went they think it's all over, it is now from the gymn and go yes, okay, that's in the top seven.
00:21:27
Speaker 2: All right, that's an entry. We'll take it seven before seven. We'll hear it very very shortly. First, let's revisit a story that we covered extensively yesterday on the program Mission to Retrieve the body of a diver at Tantanula in the cave there a diving tragedy. Local diving expert Ryan Kashkowski joins us on five double a breakfast. Ryan good morning to you.
00:21:49
Speaker 4: Good morning, Good So Ryan, this is obviously a such a tight knit community. I'm imagining cave diving. You guys must all known each other. It must be a pretty heavy sort of seen down there still.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, especially at that sort of level of diving, the group you can get smaller because you know, you're meeting each other all the time, and we are quite a tight group. And so yeah, I mean's obviously devastating.
00:22:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, so can you give us a bit of a sense of I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to go into these caves? Like, can you sort of give us a sort of broad description of what it's like down there?
00:22:26
Speaker 15: Yeah?
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Speaker 14: Absolutely, Well, I mean it's completely different than obviously anything top side. It's completely dark. I think a lot of people sort of don't really get that idea because obviously the sun doesn't reach it at all. As soon as you go in more than twenty thirty meters, it's completely pitch black. So obviously it's all torch artificial torch light. But you know, a lot of people sort of say, what do you see down there? Isn't it just rocks? And I suppose that's true. It is just rocks. There's not huge amounts of life down there, but you know, the passage the rocks formations are incredible. The passage changes so much between tiny small spaces to really really large spaces that could you know fit a fit cars or planes through. You know, used to give you an idea of size, and it's really that sort of mind blowing shape and size that really just makes you feel like you're almost in space or somewhere, you know, unworldly.
00:23:19
Speaker 4: Are the caves at a point now where they're well known enough that when you go diving there there's a map that you can look at in advance, or rather, are the networks so big and sprawling that there's a chance that you might end up in part of the cave that if any people have ever been to before.
00:23:38
Speaker 14: Yeah, like a lot of the caves down here have really been explored. I mean there's always opportunities to find new sections and we are looking for them all the time, so it's not like you accidentally stumble across anything. You'll most likely be trying to look for it. Tank Cave is our largest and most extent and complex one that we have in South Australia, and you know, people were diving every week looking for sections, so it is possible, but you know a lot of the early expiration was when huge sections were found. I certainly hope there's more to be found, but it's certainly something you're going to have to work for. Probably the more likely thing is that, you know, maybe another cave on someone's property is found, is probably more likely than you know, new large sections being discovered in some of the caves.
00:24:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, and do you know exactly where this poor bloke from Victoria is is it? Is it at a point where you've sort of been able to locate him? And how's it all going?
00:24:39
Speaker 15: Yeah?
00:24:39
Speaker 14: No, I mean I don't want to talk too much about it obviously, just because it's with you know, the Curran professionals. But you know, all I can really say is that he you know, he was he was a great buy. I knew him. He was a great bloke and he was an experienced guy. He loved what he was, what he's, what he did, and uh and yeah, he just you know, it's always devastating sort of news. But he's out now and yeah we're waiting for the we're waiting for the result.
00:25:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Brian, thank you so much for joining us. Ryan Kuczowski their Southeast Caves either who was helping with the retrieval.
00:25:17
Speaker 2: Lots of ticks coming through on the text lines before at zero eight thirteen ninety five, and many confirming the Christmas weed in the on Kaprina council area. One person says it's definitely a new weed. Corey says can confirm it is a current photo. I saw it on Sunday. Another one here Ryan and Morphotbale saw it Saturday, had a laugh. Definitely real. Someone here says morning lads, mayor of Hackham. Here the Christmas weed is a true thing. On the intersection outside Cardin College as you go into Colonades. Another amazing down South feature love your work Bin Dog, Bin Dog, Bin Dog, Marra Hackham excellent.
00:25:53
Speaker 4: Nat Cook is the local MP down that neck of the woods or nearby. Rather not trying to put Chris picked it out of a job because I think his seat. But yeah, she's sent a link through to the Facebook post and there are dozens and dozens of comments and all people just everyone's taking pictures of the weed as they drive past past. One Facebook newser Jessica Bernie Goes ll look at us all photographing the same weed. That dude must feel so famous.
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Speaker 2: Well, we got a text for one person, so they would have entered it into the Mayor's Christmas Lights decoration competition had she not canceled it. Maybe that's why market Highbrie. What should be on the seven before seven Greatest commentary Moments of all Time?
00:26:39
Speaker 10: When mackayby Deva won three in a row, Champion becomes a legend.
00:26:43
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, champion becomes a legend. Thank you, Mark. That's certainly up for consideration. I don't know how Paddy and em going to come up with this. I think everyone is going to be upset. We'll find out shortly. Let's head to the weather Bureau. Hannah marsh Is on Dudy Hannah Summer just around the corner.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, we're there, but we are going to see those temperatures increasing. But before we get there, we had minimums around that five to thirteen degree marks through the metropolitan area, with eleven point seven in the city overnight. There is a little bit of cloud around still, but we do expect this to clear as we get deeper into the morning period. We're looking at a maximum of twenty two degrees in the city today, twenty three at Elizabeth, twenty one for Glenelg, Nolunga and Mount Barker. And as you alluded to, we do have a high pressure system out to the west at the moment. As that does move past us and to the east, we'll see the winds come around to the north and we'll see those temperatures increase. So we're looking at a mostly sunny thirty degrees tomorrow, getting up to thirty three degrees on Thursday. We will see the cloud increase and we do have a change moving through on Thursday, but we're not expecting much in the way of rainfall associated with that system. We'll drop the temperature back to twenty six for Frive, but it will still be sunny. But then we do have a wakefront that just clips the south east on Saturday, which says a shower or two and dropping the temperature back to twenty two degrees for Saturday twenty three on Sunday, but getting back up to a sunny twenty seven degrees by next Monday.
00:28:17
Speaker 4: Good on you, Hannah. Thank he Hannah Marsh from the Bureau of Meteorology.
00:28:20
Speaker 2: We said discipoles and you can to met Hailes on the line. Met there was a pretty dramatic stabbing at Clearview.
00:28:27
Speaker 17: Yeah, good morning David and will. In the early hours this morning, police and paramedics were called to the intersection of Hampstead Road on Sarnia Avenue in Clearview. It was reported that a man was sitting in his car when he was approached by a group of men in another car, who then demanded his wallet. During that altercation, the forty eight year old victim was stabbed in his leg. He was taken hospital by ambulance. Unfortunately, his injuries were not life threatening at all. His car was seized by police for forensic examination and while investigations are continuing, we really want to stress that this does not appear to be a random incident. Anyone who's got any dash cam or witness the incident or as asked to contact crime Stoppers on Crimestoppers say dot com dot au or one to eight hundred triple three triples there and remember you can remain enonymous.
00:29:16
Speaker 4: I met also three people who have been arrested after a clandestine lab drug lab was discovered in Salisbury, East.
00:29:22
Speaker 17: Yes, not a good day for these drug manufacturers. At about two thirty this morning, police and fire crews responded to a house far at Hazel Road in Salisbury East. Firefighters put out a small fire which has caused minor damage in the kitchen area of the address. Three occupants were evacuated during the incident. A fifty three year old man was taken hospital with non life threatening burns to his legs. Police in covered evidence consistent with drug manufacturing, locating chemicals and equipment in the kitchen. A twenty three year old man, sixty two year old woman and a fifty three year old injured man were all arrested and are expected to be charged later this morning with manufacturing a control drug. The women was also found to be in possession of thirty grams of meth and phetamine and she'll be charged with trafficking and control drug. Northern District detectives and investigators from the Drug and Organized Crime Task Force are still at that address processing the same. Anyone with the information is asked to contact crime stoppers as well, and remember you don't have to leave your name, just tell us what you know.
00:30:21
Speaker 2: Just lastly, Met before we let you go, you caught up with the high range drink driver in Met Gambia.
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Speaker 17: Yes, big consequences here for this lady. So it was just about eleven forty last night police were called to Jubilee Highway East after reports that a Cherry station wagon had front end damage and was driving erradically all over the road towards Mount Gambier. Please stop that car and the driver. A twenty one year old woman underwent a breath test and she returned a blood alcohol reading wait for this, of zero point two zero two. That's over four times illegal limit. It got even worse for her as check revealed her life since was disqualified. The women was supported for drink driving and disqualified driving. Her car was impounded. On top of all that, she lost her license for twelve months. And lastly, this has just showed you how bad it is if you go drink driving. She's going to have to face court and answer to those charges down the track. It's a real blessing that no one, including herself was seriously injured by this selfish driving behavior.
00:31:23
Speaker 4: Yeah no, absolutely, Matt Well said four times driver, what a rat bag saying you can't stable met hale from safe.
00:31:28
Speaker 2: Four times over? No license? So licenses qualified? Wasn't that person going to jail well.
00:31:34
Speaker 4: Disqualifying the license with someone whose license has already disqualified seems to be a case study in empty gestures, does it not? You need to find a different penalty because that person already doesn't care. They've shown by their actions that they're laughing at the system, and so what they can do to spend a license again?
00:31:51
Speaker 2: It's exactly right.
00:31:52
Speaker 4: So just you know me and are along the Riddick Highway in a completely maggeted state, and then back of the consequences.
00:32:00
Speaker 2: I like this idea from Rob on the text line. Rob says, perhaps the Christmas weed could start a movement and we can have a Christmas Weed map of Adelaide. It could become a new tourism thing. I like that idea, Sapa. I will be able to help with some of the locations. Do long live exactly right? Like that one, and so long live the Christmas Weed of Colonades.
00:32:19
Speaker 4: I love it.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: We think, we think it's terrific.
00:32:21
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast five.
00:32:25
Speaker 2: Minutes to seven our top seven before seven in just a money before we get there. I wanted to reflect back on the Black Friday sales which are they we end. There's I mean there's still ads going around to how many texts you got from businesses. I've started to get into the habit of clicking stop. I did that yesterday as Stratko.
00:32:43
Speaker 18: No.
00:32:43
Speaker 4: I love Stratco. No issues with Stratco. I don't need ten messages a day. My relationship with retailer has been an effective one over my life. It's I go there when I need things. I don't need to be reminded. Yeah, yeah, but it clearly works.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Kylie Niel's the center manager for Harbortown, one of the places that I have been to over the journey. Lots of people were there, drove past it over the weekend. My word, the extra parking they put on. I think the population of Harbortown was bigger than that the rest of Adelaide at one point in time. Kylie, good morning to you. What was your assessment of how Black Friday played out in essay this year? Was it as big as it has been?
00:33:20
Speaker 19: Oh, I'd certainly say this was one of our biggest Black Fridays on record, and it was actually a really strong whole week, not just on the Friday. I think the customers really took that opportunity to come throughout the route rather than everybody just rushing in on Black Friday, which was good. I feel for all of our retail staff on the floor.
00:33:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, I must be beat on there, Kylie. Has it been the rest of the year though, because you know, people are still talking about power prices, cost of living, cost of housing. Has it been quiet a year overall? And do you think people might be saving their retailer activity for the Black Friday period?
00:34:03
Speaker 19: I certainly think our big sale periods have been more effective and really brought the customers through than prior years. Our sales and traffic are still up in double digit growth, but I feel it is because we are outlet, so our customers know that every day of the week we have everything on sale at least seventy percent off.
00:34:27
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good reason to get in there obviously, isn't it. And how I've mean the hart to town for a while, college expanded quite a bit of late, hasn't it.
00:34:36
Speaker 19: Well, we've brought in a lot of new brands over the years. Over just in recent years we've had Nike join us and Assets Adventure Megastore, Helly Hansen Champion, so all of these are brands that haven't been to Adelaide before and our customers are certainly enjoying not having to go into state to get the brands.
00:34:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Judan. I need to fly over to sen and there's one there, I think the near the airport in Melbourne. Kylie and Neil, the center manager for Harbortown. Yeah, I've been doing a lot of unsubscribed I'm just gonna look at an email. It's just ridiculous, constant pestering.
00:35:16
Speaker 2: I think there's a sad footnote to the busyness of the Black Friday sales over the weekend, and that is it's a reminder. The reason it was most popular in South Australia, which is what the early data is telling us, is because South Australia has the highest higher proportion than any other mainland state of households that are doing it tough. So Christmas shopping becomes Black Friday shopping.
00:35:37
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though, for people who are Christmas shopping, it's a good opportunity to get some savings. But as a present, absolutely, well, how do you know that? How do you know what the original price was? Well, for some I think most people have a rough idea. If you've been in the market for you know, we need to buy a vacuum cleaner.
00:35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
00:35:56
Speaker 4: I bought a mac pack jacket like a little rain jacket in one of the sales, and I knew what that was. Normally it was one hundred and fifty bucks and something they were eighty nine or something. Thought, that's a good saving. We'll get the one of them.
00:36:09
Speaker 2: Not to say everyone's doing the right thing, but I think a lot of time we people know what the general price of stuff is. Hey, let's do our Top seven before seven. Patty and m put this together. The impossible tasks. We love setting them impossible tasks. Great commentary moments the Top seven before seven. In seventh spot, Brevet runs head, Oh my godness, very.
00:36:30
Speaker 4: Back, wonderful chase.
00:36:33
Speaker 2: Why he's sure they train up behind him.
00:36:36
Speaker 4: Like a librarian.
00:36:38
Speaker 2: Heartbreaking moment for the Saints of the Grand Final, called by Dennis Committee number six.
00:36:43
Speaker 12: Yeah done, it's got six at the d build them man a stack, Tom, what's happen here?
00:36:51
Speaker 2: Remem when Scott Bolin exploded onto the scene. Nice to get six at the gap of this week. I've never seen the like.
00:37:00
Speaker 20: Study. Yes, child.
00:37:15
Speaker 2: I can't spike darts commentary is great. I'm glad that got in there at number five. I don't know what the relevance of the game was. I just know it's sounded excellent. He's number four.
00:37:24
Speaker 4: Yes, McGrath comes in.
00:37:26
Speaker 20: It's on its way instead.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: The Martel of Dress the Miracle of Grass a bit of a rip off of the American Miracle on Ice number three, but the Candy Cleman a.
00:37:39
Speaker 4: Hundred menus to go excellent runs to second.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: Run John, but a champion becomes a legend, the candy neighbor's man it as requested by Mark and Hyper a little bit earlier. I think number two.
00:37:51
Speaker 20: He's a famous victory. I'm a magnificent performance.
00:37:56
Speaker 21: What I go?
00:37:58
Speaker 4: What a Javion?
00:37:59
Speaker 2: The legend calling legend, Bruce calling Kathy Freeman the two thousand Olympics and the number one spot host to sit is still alive here. That was the goal that secured the Premier League title. One of the more remarkable moments everyone checking their phones in the stands and so forth.
00:38:18
Speaker 4: Was that Martin Tyler commentating it was wasn't long.
00:38:21
Speaker 2: Before he retired an absolute legend. Seven before seven.
00:38:24
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double A breakfast day after seven.
00:38:29
Speaker 2: Good morning too if you're joining us for the first time on this Tuesday, the second of December. If you've been waiting patiently for summer to come in, you may just caught it in the five double A forecast, but you certainly would have heard it if you're with us in the first hour with the weather Bureau thirty tomorrow, thirty three on Thursday, and then despite a little shower on Saturday a little setback'll be back to twenty seven on Monday next week. It feels like we're starting to get into a stable pattern of warm weather, which is magnificent, stableish, stableish, well a relative relative what we've had.
00:38:58
Speaker 4: But someone has not got off to the most traditional start.
00:39:01
Speaker 2: It dosn't met a cracking start, no, but it's got time to improve, exactly. Phil Curry covering up after seven thirty. We'll talk federal politics with Phil, and also we need to this mystery around the Glenarng International School and the disturbing detail the police released yesterday in an attempt to try and identify the person that is.
00:39:18
Speaker 4: The weirdest story that has repeatedly.
00:39:20
Speaker 2: Been issuing the school with all sorts of threats.
00:39:24
Speaker 4: Frankly, dead spiders, Bitremberg, honey, all these weird code words. The person I feel pretty sorry for too is the guy who was taken into custody, the original suspect. Yeah, he's taken into custody and he's presumably saying it's not me, it's not me, and they're like, yeah, right, okay. While he's in custody, the school gets more threats. Yeah, yeah, you got the wrong go on the true We got some.
00:39:50
Speaker 2: Detail and gather around tickets yesterday. Did you read about this? So tickets to go and sale tomorrow. Make sure you circle the day tomorrow. If you're a club an AFL member, you be able to get access to tickets. They're doing a little bit differently this year. You to be tomorrow and there's a special period on Thursday where you'll be able to get tickets if you're a club in IFIL member. The other thing you'd be able to do is now buy tickets to other games, not just your team's game. One little difference though, that's going to hit hit pockets is that there are no more free tickets, so you don't get the game for free if it's your team, it's now twenty dollars. The junior and kids members tickets are free, but this is the first time that's going to have a cost attached to it. One dollar from every member ticket goes to the Women's Children's Hospital Foundation, which I think is terrific, the official charity partner for gathering, which they were last year. This is good. Building into the tickets is a good thing. The general admission general public non member tickets start at forty dollars for adults, eighteen for juniors, families for eighty dollars. They're all standalone events, no double head of fixtures, and all tickets will be available via ticket tech. So the big difference is that now you have to pay twenty bus because I looked back to see what did the advice in the AFO website say last year AFILM, and this is what it read. Twenty four hour member priority window to redeem a free general ad mission or Category three ticket to watch their club of support and a discount for upgraded seats. So this year there is a nominal twenty dollars fee attached to the.
00:41:19
Speaker 4: Whole thing, So becoming more expensive, well significantly more expensive.
00:41:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's still less expensive than a normal game, but it's not as it was originally an add on. It was a free extra game.
00:41:33
Speaker 4: Sell out there, I reckon in about three seconds flat. It's crazy, isn't it. How many people do you know from in the state too, who are now just falling over themselves to get here.
00:41:42
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's good, I think. I do think it's good that members have got an extra access to go to other games as well, so they're not restricted, so that will work well. Does anyone have qualms about the added cost or the way it's going to work this year? I'd love to hear from your eight double two three double double. I went online yesterday and try to read all the forums and the views and whatnot, and whilst there were some people in the States saying, gee, it's gonna act extra, being extra hundred dollars to take the family over, by and large, all the gripes with the draw sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the games are just terrible.
00:42:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, there's not enhing that.
00:42:17
Speaker 2: Was still seemed to be amongst footy fans. The main criticism interested to see what our listeners think zero eight thirty ninety five, Well.
00:42:24
Speaker 4: The relationship between the Holdfast Bay Council and the flagship hospitality business down at the Bay, which is of course the Stamford Grand Hotel. It's reached what I would describe as a new low after a recent appearance on ABC Radio by the Mayor Amanda Wilson. She was on ABC Radio last Friday, during which she made a number of statements attributing whatever difficulties the hotel claims to be having to pretty much any factor other than the Jetty Road upgrade. She made comments about the competition that the hotel has been facing from other bars. She talked about the Algill bloom. She talked about the fact that the state government was also making changes to the tram overpasses, and also said that and this is the bit that has upset the hotel the most I think is that the construction that is undergoing quote isn't near the Grand Well. Anyone who's been down to Glen elg and I go down there a lot. I go to both ends. It's not the world's longest discipline RG road. People can see that the works are affecting a very large area and that the Grand in terms of access is very very much in the frame. Andrew Donodell as the vice president of operations at the Grand Hotel, and we've got him on the line again. Andrew, probably a bit of an understatement to say that there's a bit of deflection going on in the commons that the mayor made.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's an understatement. These scenes were blaming everything but their own project at this stage.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, does it annoy you though? I mean, clearly you've written to the council asking for a retraction and an apology. Does it annoy you that this is sort of all these suggestions are being floated in the public arena and then you guys are sort of left to try to, you know, set the record straight.
00:44:28
Speaker 6: Exactly right.
00:44:29
Speaker 8: I mean, they know how to contact us. If they want to get information, they can, they can reach out to us, and we're open to have an open dialogue. We've been very open with.
00:44:38
Speaker 2: That in the past.
00:44:39
Speaker 8: We just don't understand why they keep making these public statements that are not based on any facts and it's a misrepresenting the business.
00:44:51
Speaker 4: And the other thing too, You've had some difficulties in terms of even having a conversation with them, like you made multiple attempts to talk to them that that fell on Deafy's in the first instance. But then there was a meeting scheduled a week or two ago where the hotel asked if you would be able if the council would agree to record the meeting. So the councilors did, no, we're not doing that. What's happened since then? Have you had any discussions with them since then?
00:45:21
Speaker 8: We wrote back to them asking for our initial apology and information on what relief they'd be offering the councilor the community. We were expecting a reply by Friday last week. At about four point thirty, we got a response from the Council's seeing the DUTO understa in circumstances, they wouldn't be able to reply that deeper. They'll be replying to us on Wednesday this week, by a closer business tomorrow, so we're looking forward to that response tomorrow.
00:45:50
Speaker 4: And there's been a lot of upbeat social media posts by the council and by the mayor featuring the mayor over the last week or so about how things are really you know, on the move and there's our fresco dining. Does that deal with your reading of where the project is at I.
00:46:08
Speaker 8: Mean, it doesn't look like it's it's going to be ready anytime soon. But look, we're really excited that it is opening. And of course with the extra pressure, they've probably tried to expedite things more than they had to. And don't get me wrong, we're really excited that the end of Jet Road is meant to open by the nineteenth, the December, but it doesn't change what's happened since August and still on the count. Sort of just put the hand up and say, you know, we screwed up peak ownership for the problem, and offer some kind of relief to the community.
00:46:39
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Andrew Donald or, vice president of operations at Grand Hotels. And lest anyone think this is some sort of you know, anti mayor crusade, we've now for the second time in less than a week. We've the second time in a week less than a week, we've asked invited the mayor to come on the show. She didn't do it last week. She's told us again that she's unavailable. Will give her a fair hearing. We've also said to any business that wants to come on and talk about how great they think the whole project is, we're all is still haven't heard from any of them, so, you know, repeated attempts to give the council a chance to put it side, and no response forthcoming. Stephen Patterson is the local Liberal member for Morphoot and he's called and what's your take on where things are at stament?
00:47:28
Speaker 11: Which really it's been really poor communications. I think the councils have really gone to a siege mentality here and that's been going on since the middle of twenty twenty four when they first announced the rate rise, and you know, I came out strongly against that because it was during a cost of living crisis, and I mean one of the real issues here is that you just don't have governments working together at all levels. It is a project where that was an opportunity. I mean, we've got bipartisan support for the project at a federal level, both Liberal and Labor supported ten million dollars to be put into the project, and in the council wasn't able to secure funding from the state governments on the view that it's a state tourism precincts and it's certainly warrants also having a state contribution to this project, and that would have helped the Council to a large extent. You would have had all levels working together and it's just disappointing. The businesses are hurting. All the businesses I speak to a lot of them, they're turnovers down and to be honest, I mean I've run a business as well. You don't care about excuses. You just want all levels of government to help out and to chip in, and so that the council really needs to live this government. The Stanford Grands and iconic business down at glenelg we want them now supporting glenel because of course they reach out and bring tourism into the sector and ultimately the up grade will do the same. It'll be on all the state tourism brochures once it's up and running. And it really just needs government to understand business and work much better.
00:49:11
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Stephen Patterson, the Liberal member for More, thanks for that.
00:49:15
Speaker 2: Ninety minutes after seven, let's check traffic and also cast and I Ford to something we're going to be doing a little bit later, getting in the Christmas spirit, celebrating the best of South Faulsy produce and experience as we're doing this all week. Did it yesterday? That was a lot of fun thanks to brandis a support local and BIASA four is a look for the State logo on products during your Christmas shop. We'll talk more about that over the course of the morning.
00:49:36
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:49:40
Speaker 2: But after seven thirty this morning, Phil Curry's going to join us and we'll talk federal politics with Phil and then the Education Minister on the Glenung international terror plot. That's it's just terrifying for parent, parents and students and everyone who works at that school as well, So we'll get some more detail on that before eight o'clock. But some good news here. Every time Sammary contacts us to come and we jump at the opportunity because we've got this magnificent facility here in South Australia where all sorts of development, the smartest people in the world are inside that building working on all manner of things making people's lives better and longer. And so is the case without an Next guests, Professor deb White is the head of Sammry's Precision Cancer Cancer Medicine group, and Janet Anderson is a survivor of chronic myloid leukemia. Janet deb Good morning to you both.
00:50:26
Speaker 22: Good morning, good morning, thanks for having us.
00:50:28
Speaker 4: Now. I got to say from the start that my head spins reading some of this stuff. Professor White, you are pioneering research and covering how the gut micro biome affects cancer development in acute lymphoblastic leukemia. There's about five words in there that I don't understand. What's the gut micro biome and why is it so important?
00:50:51
Speaker 22: We've all got one and it's pretty important. So the gut microbiome is really just the bugs if you like, that are in the gut there, tightly regulated by food, tightly regulated by.
00:51:03
Speaker 4: The sort of drugs we take.
00:51:05
Speaker 22: Antibiotics, et cetera affect the microbiome, and we've recently, in collaboration with a number of people, identified that there is a link between the gut microbiome and acutiny for blastic leukemia, and we're now going through trying to work out how to sort that out.
00:51:23
Speaker 4: So, because I think, you know, mug punters like me would think we'll sour krout and you know, rye bread, maybe the odd bottle of kombucher if you're feeling particularly virtuous, those things are related to your gut held stomach cancer, bowel cancer, but your recentary shows actually goes beyond that into other types of cancer too.
00:51:41
Speaker 22: Yeah, it seems like a long bow, doesn't it. But in fact we know that the immune system or in fact seventy percent of the immune system comes from the gut, is driven by the gut, and then we know that in fact the cancers are really intrinsically linked the immune system, and so therefore there's a link which seems like a long bow, as I said, But in fact, the more we can boost our immune system and have everything running as it should, the better we think our response to therapy will be.
00:52:12
Speaker 2: Now, Janet, our listeners may have even heard you play in the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra.
00:52:18
Speaker 1: The orchestra over the last twenty years.
00:52:21
Speaker 2: Now, did your path cross with deb directly or was it indirectly as a part of a as a part of this trial that you went into that sounds like it's had extraordinary results indirectly.
00:52:32
Speaker 1: So I've been involved with other professors on this specific trial, and.
00:52:35
Speaker 2: So take us through where you were before this trial, what that involved, where you are now.
00:52:42
Speaker 1: Well twenty twenty, which was a crazy year for everyone obviously, you know, I hadn't realized that perhaps I was feeling a little bit tighter. And then I just had a blood test testing for something else and it showed up that I had this chronic my Lloyd lakeema. So that was obviously a huge shock. And then I was given the option of going on the three treatments that were currently available, which is amazing because since two thousand and one this leukemia has been survivable, which is you know, I'm obviously extremely grateful for that. And then had the option to go on this trial, and I thought, you know, this is going to be my best option, and it has been amazing. So six months in my cancer levels were down to zero and feeling great.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: So yeah, and is part of that, And this might be a question you'd want to get involved with Professor White, this idea that cancer Historically it's like, let's just check everything at it and go as hard as we can. But it's now is now becoming a more bespoke approach where it does vary so much from you know, one tumor and one person might be different from a tumor another person. It's more tailored ways of going after it.
00:53:56
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think that's that's the critical thing. We talk about precision medicine, so and that's an evolving term. So with the therapy that Janet was on targeted her leukemia or her cancer directly, so we knew what caused that cancer. Clever people cleverer than me, had developed drugs that would actually directly target that cancer, and that was the drug that Janet went on. In fact, we've had three different generations of that, so that this is about precision medicine as we've known it up until now probably has been the targeting of the actual cancer that you have. We're now starting to take that a little bit further, particularly in the sort of work we're doing where we're saying, okay, so we know a lot about the cancer because we do a lot of gene sequencing, since you know, we can now we understand the cancer relatively well, but we know not all patients respond. So what is it about the patient that is actually contributing to that? So it's kind of I guess, thinking about your cancer being your cancer, it's about and this is where modifying that not by adding more drugs, but maybe by doing simple things by changing diet or adding some probiotics or some prebiotics and all of those sort of things that we can tailor for an individual patient to improve the way their cancer growths. Actually not improve the way their cancer grows, but actually understand the way it grows, and then we can reduce that growth with therapy that targets the cancer but also helps the patient debells.
00:55:29
Speaker 2: This is maybe a bit tangential, but I was reading a piece by a medical researcher in the United States and I'm wonder for the situation similar here in Australia, and was talking about this period of rapid advancement development that you're clearly involved in, but it was too about the potential of AI and people have dreamed about what that might look like in the future. They said, the problem that any rapid advancement in treatment of anything is going to face is the same as it's always faced, and none of that's going to be fixed by technology, and that is that the choke point the backloggers once you get to the human trial stage of things, getting enough people and funding. That part of it is that your experience here in Australia as well.
00:56:02
Speaker 22: Australia is pretty lucky with clinical trials. We have a fairly contained population and actually a population that's pretty willing to be involved in clinical trials. But absolutely that's where the cost comes in. And we also before we can get to clinical trials as well, you have to do a lot of work. We obviously can't do the sort of stuff that we're doing in patients. We have to do it in our models first, and that's in the lab and with the mice, etc. But you need to have this is where the association comes in between the patient, the researchers, the farmer. We need farmer involved as well. And so's that's big funding that is actually falling short in Australia at the moment.
00:56:43
Speaker 2: So yes, it is that which brings us back to the Christmas appeal for Samary. How can people support this wonderful institution if they.
00:56:50
Speaker 22: Go to the Samary website at the moment, it's on the front page of the website and we're really excited to bring the community along and on board to join us in this quest to improve the responses of patience.
00:57:02
Speaker 2: Well, we need more money for an organization like Samdary so we can have more people like dare working on things that benefit people like you. Janet and the rest of us. So great to have you both in. Thanks so much for coming in to chat with us about it.
00:57:13
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us David Penberthy and world Goodings. Five double A Breakfast.
00:57:19
Speaker 2: Twenty to eight The Education Minister Blair Boys shortly on the extraordinary revelations regarding Glenunga International School and the situation they've been in for the better part of them the last twelve months, terrorized by someone that they can't yet locate. But the details of which they came out yesterday quite are quite harrowing. So we're going to get into that very very shortly then after eight o'clock today, of course. The Nordic Furniture Legends Lounge currently occupied by Kate from Cumberland Park. Whoever sits on the lounge as of Friday next week wins ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture. Kate could keep winning, we'll find out a little bit later this morning. Stay listing if you want to be part of one of the best prizes we've ever got to give away. On five to Blave Breakfast, let's head to the nation's capital now. Phil Curry, the political editor of The Australian Financial Review joins us. Phil, I read with interest a piece you write overnight that often come on, come on, Phil, David, you're pregnant now. I was building up to something. The David Penberthy's of the world are falling in behind Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 15: What are you, gen xpember I think so as we know, we'll all the polls, our poll, News poll, everyone's poll is showing paul and Hanson one nation. Support for a nation has been increased quite dramatically since the election. I think they've got about six percent nationally on election day, and depending on which poll you look at now they're running at about fifteen to eighteen percent. So we commissioned it was done for US, but our Polster red Bridge is super sample. So they polled about five thousand people over the course of three weeks. And when you do that many people, you can then sort of get reliable breakdowns. You know, you've got enough people to see how this how what's going on in each state and amongst women and men, and you know, people in different incomes and so forth. And the thing that showed showed out it's no surprise that it's sort of older generations, you know, gen x's and baby boomers where the support for one nation is the highest, but amongst Gen X men, so that's people born after sixty five, from sixty five to nineteen eighty, it's twenty six percent, So that's quite high. See, it's sort of you can break down the data and it shows these are people of sort of well because on one of them, I'm not a one nation voter, but it's it's it's people have sort of you know, the what they call the Sandwich generation. They're a bit sort of worn down by it all kids and aging parents and economic stress coming at them from both ends, and they're sort of tie of workness and all these sorts of things. So it's it's just it's an interesting insight into into where that where the main support is coming from.
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Speaker 4: I'd pinpoint it, feel, in all seriousness, to the release of Rodney Rude Live in about nineteen eighty two, because I think that, seriously, there's a bunch of people in my generation and I'm like you, I'm not going to rock up at the ballot box and look for the one nation person handing out how to vote cards, But there are there are people in our age bracket who can remember a day when the Rodney Grudes and Kevin Bloody Wilson's rule the world in the comedy space and using that as a little cipher for how sort of now we've got to walk on eggshells about everything we do and say, you know, you give a few people four pints and when they're talking in the privacy of their their their their matship group, they'll be gone. Cover. The world has become such a bloody boring, politically correct place.
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Speaker 15: Yes it has, and that's right, And it's also just I think that the main the main thing, Dave is economic stress.
01:00:59
Speaker 4: That's strive.
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Speaker 15: I think people like that too. Yeah, you just sort of you get your head of the board and someone pushes it back down under again and you sort of feel like you're just I mean a lot of people under economic stress, but for some reason it's really concentrated and in that age group.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: But again too, you can throw in there like people our age we grew up when you know, there was a mix of issue.
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Speaker 15: There was a holden, that's right, there was some rea they've watched the hollowing out. That's what our polster costa Marus sort of he wrote quite a good thing on it, he said. He said, they're they're financially stressed, their rent, they're carrying a heavy mortgage, they're they're running out of runway, and they're working lives. They're trying to retire a lot of them, you know, they were tradees, work with their hands. He says, the most disrupted generation in modern Australia have been through three recessions, the effects of globalization, the hollowing out of manufacturing and all these traditional industries. And I've sort of lived through it all, and I guess they're just a bit worn out by it all. And you know, when Pauline comes along and offers, you know, we don't really offer solutions, but she's, as I said, the easiest thing in politics has to identify the problem, not fix it. But he's very good at identifying the problem. And then that doesn't mean they'll vote for her the next election. But if you ring them up now on pole them, that's where they're parking their vote.
01:02:12
Speaker 4: At the moment. Conversely, though, and I saw Nick Kayta, who you're hard to kill him a bleeding heart, you know, heads up the Menzies Institute for the Libs for a very long time writing in The Australian talking about her burker antics the other day being exactly the kind of thing that will stop a lot of people from voting for her.
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Speaker 15: That's right. Everyone was really surprised when she did that, because, as we've just been discussing, she's in the last six months, she's attracted what you call mainstream voter support. It's a bit like you know, labor voters drifting towards the Greens, you know, during the last term, and they were drifting towards one Nation for those reasons we're just talking about. And then she walks into the Senate and does that dumb stunt with a burker really for no reason. It's not like it's topical or anything like that, and that reminds people, actually, you they are a bit nuts. And you know, I know the Liberal Party was sort of pretty happy she did that because they were having that same reaction, hoping people sort of have pause for thought. We saw it last election, Dave on the other side, when the Greens just went too radical, you know, screaming in your face about Palestine and the CFM EU and stuff, and a lot of people who are attracted to the Greens made of environmental reasons said no, no thanks, and they went back to the Labor Party and the Green's got clobbered quite badly the election, lost three of their four seats. And that's where Hanson has to be careful.
01:03:28
Speaker 4: If she sort of pulls.
01:03:29
Speaker 15: Those nut stunts, then you know, it'll be a short lived, a short lived renaissance. And this is why Barnaby Joyce is going to one nation. I mean that the whole plan is that Pauline Hants will be seventy four at the next election, so she's not going to go much beyond that. And the whole point is for Joyce to take over. And Joyce isn't a race guy, right, He's just more into the you know, the energy and all these sorts of things, you know, the grievances, and you know a lot of posters think they'll be a bit more for a lot more formidable actually once he actually takes over, because you won't be doing much of the nutty stuff. Oh yeah, his nutty standards.
01:04:07
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, great stuff. Phil. You've got to answer that phone, yeah right, exclusive.
01:04:13
Speaker 15: Coming speaking of trading, bring me twenty minutes before you come around. And he's probably saying you can't turn up.
01:04:24
Speaker 4: Have you got someone coming to polish your deck? Mate? No? If only mate yourself.
01:04:29
Speaker 15: No, I do. I'm an idiot.
01:04:32
Speaker 4: Therapist, must be happy that you're still doing it.
01:04:35
Speaker 15: I do is work.
01:04:38
Speaker 4: Slaving away over a hot tabloid in the garden.
01:04:41
Speaker 15: No, he's an electrician. It's all good, excellent.
01:04:44
Speaker 4: Good on your film.
01:04:48
Speaker 2: All right, let's check traffic and when we return education minutes to Blair Boy will join.
01:04:52
Speaker 3: Us at David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Eight minutes to weight. We're gonna try by jury coming up very shortly before that, though, I just want to read you a little bit of the ties. As reporting on the Glenunga International High School police investigation, about which some significant details was released yesterday, the Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams revealed that some of the how the threats were being made, some of the common phrases that were using, examples of images, one of which was a spider incorporated in the school logo. Another depicts the logo constructed of spider's broken legs. Now, someone who goes by the alias Brian Cole had issued threats to the school sent from a shared computer most week nights after nine pm between November nineteen, twenty twenty four and May thirteen of this year. They do know the computer had the gaming platform Steam and the game Blackmith Wukong installed on it as well. Now that behavior changed in the middle of this year, So the suspicion is that there was some change to this Brian Cole's living circumstances that meant they had reduced access to a computer. It's a mystery who this person is. It's not a mystery what kind of impact that has on the school community. And that's what concerns our next guess the Education minister Blair boy a minister. Good morning to you, you're their minister.
01:06:16
Speaker 7: No, good morning to you.
01:06:17
Speaker 4: Oh there is Blair boy Education and Police minister. And this is an issue that really could not intersect anymore with your twin portfolios. Can I just ask at the start minister reading about the students at Glenunger International High School doing evacuation drills being given what my understanding is the requisite level of information without making them completely paranoid, but also advising them that there is a security issue that needs to be addressed. It must be a very difficult balancing act.
01:06:58
Speaker 7: It absolutely is, and I understand too. You know when parents whose kids go to the school and students themselves, you know, would be rightfully concerned when they hear details like this that have been released by Saypole yesterday. I don't live in a you know, false reality or I think people aren't going to be worried when they hear those details and you know, wonder about whether it's safe and things like that. I totally understand that. But our number one goal here in terms of the police investigation is how we can find this person and stop this from happening. And what worries me and keeps me awake at night is that we can't do that, and we are in a situation where this is kind of endlessly hanging over the school community's head without resolution, and I don't want that. So this is the next stage that investigation from Saypole, where they have decided to share very specific information as we just heard, we'll read out in the whole that that might trigger the memory of someone at the school and might be able to put some of the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle together so we can actually find who is doing this.
01:08:09
Speaker 4: This might be straying into sort of police intel space. So I understand if you can't answer, but I think an average person reading this piece would draw the same conclusion that I did as an average person reading it, which is it sounds like for someone to be this fixated on the school and to be drawing logos and what have you do the police think that they're probably an ex student.
01:08:35
Speaker 7: That was a question that was put to the Deputy Commissioner yesterday in the press conference, and I think I can say that that possibility wasn't ruled out. I suspect the answer is we don't know, but we can't definitively say that that is not the case. But the thing that stands out here for me, Dave, is how digital technology can enable someone who it seems like is you know, living in a shared house with a shared computer, to you know, make threats like this with anonymity. And it's that's it turns out for me, which makes the investigations so difficult, is this digital technology gives people like that the ability to make really serious threats like this towards the school community. Essentially from it sounds like the lounge room at home, And you know that's I think I've concerned everyone. But it also shows how this investigation is complex and why SAPOL are doing steps and taking steps like this, which I support of course, despite the fact that I know it's a tough time for the school community.
01:09:42
Speaker 4: Well, I got to say, I mean, this school it's got it's probably got close to the best reputation of any state school any It's almost like it's the state school you have when you're not sending your kids to a private school. Like it it's that those South Australia Sorry what was Evanston?
01:09:58
Speaker 7: Sorry? Best nap land results in South Australia.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, of all schools. Yeah, like people who zoned for glen Unger and a lot of people trip over themselves to get in there, Like it's a hugely successful school, Minister.
01:10:10
Speaker 2: How broad is the our incidents of sort of digital threats or inappropriate andness directed towards schools? Obviously nothing as concentrated as this. But is it widespread?
01:10:23
Speaker 7: No, it's not. I can safely say it's not. It's incredibly rare what we do find. You still get every now and then the kind of someone makes the false bomb threat. That's incredibly rare in my time, and what I've noticed is when one of those is made, it's often followed by a couple of copycat ones where people decide they know they like the idea of that and having a school have to evacuate, and they do the same things. But I can say it with my hand on my heart, it is incredibly rare for anything like that.
01:10:54
Speaker 2: Well, I was actually it's funny you mentioned the bomb threat example and the copycats, because I was reading the story this morning wondering if the level of attention this case is now getting might trigger similar behavior. Do you have any concern about copycats when it comes to this kind of digital terror?
01:11:10
Speaker 7: Yes, I do, Yes, I do. I think I'd be safe in saying, say, Paul, of course do. And there are all things they consider before they take any steps like this step, because sadly, there are people out there who hear things like this happening decide they might do the same thing. So yes, that is absolutely a concern. But what I always come back to is both Minister for Education and Minister for Police is the worst case scenario on my mind is that we can't get a resolution and the community has to live with this hanging over their head. So I really support, say Paul doing everything it can to try to find the person who is doing it so that we can actually find have a resolution and try to put the school community at ease.
01:11:54
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming on, Minister Blair boy, the Minister for Education and Police. It's such a complicated thing. And there's a piece in the TiSER today written by Glenunger International High School Parent, which I think is a compelling read. And as a parent, it's hard to know how you'd feel other than just genuinely anxious knowing that your child is in a school that is being harassed to this extent. But the piece says, you know, oh, the kids are practicing lockdown and evacuation drills, the security patrols. There's an insane amount of bright orange and white ballards that suddenly appeared. What's the school meant to do if they're getting the threats, they need to try to keep the shell on the road and reassure people blandly, look, we're on top of this. You know, those buyards and things are put there for a reason. You know, when you consider how how lurid and off the chart some of the threats of violence were equally though don't you look at you look at all the stuff that's come out and the over the top nature of the threat, you know, boiling oil and all this sort of stuff, and then you see the dead spiders legs and jars of honey and maple syrup, and it does make you think, here is just someone who is seriously, seriously unwell, and that it looks like a mental health story as opposed to a sort of Columbine story.
01:13:28
Speaker 2: Sure, but there are plenty of medical stories that manifest in violent or gruesome ends.
01:13:35
Speaker 4: That's true. That is true.
01:13:37
Speaker 2: We have seen it some pretty dramatic, horrible examples of that. And so how the Australian recent years that is one hundred percent trough. It just a deeply unpleasant it is. It is most definitely.
01:13:47
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:13:51
Speaker 2: But it's after right. The South Australian Business Chambers put out some data around South Australian business confidence outpacing the rest of the nation interested interrogating that after eight o'clock today, but also as a component of that, they have also revealed the number of South Australian businesses using artificial intelligence. It has spiked in just the last twelve months. Lots to talk about with the South Australian Business Chamber. We'll get into that after eight thirty Today. It is of course a week where we're shining a light on buying local, buying South Australian the lead up to Christmas as well celebrating the spirit of the season with South Australian produce and experiences. So all week on five Double A Breakfast, we're going to be speaking with local legends behind some of your favorite South Australian brands. And when we do, remember you can always win a fantastic prize just by getting involved. All thanks to Brand Assay, Support Local and buys A four USA. Look for the State logo on products during your Christmas shop.
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Speaker 4: Well, the South Australian Liberals have announced their position on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, which was a pre election promise made by Peter Malanowskas ahead of his twenty twenty two election victory. After elections last year, the Voice is now up and running and has made two formal presentations to the State Parliament, the most recent of which came two weeks ago. Well, the Libs aren't happy with it. But we have some questions about whether they're trying to scrap it, repeal it, reform it, change it, add to it, and to flesh those out. We're joined now by the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Affairs, Josh t Josh, good morning and thank you for your morning.
01:15:29
Speaker 9: Good morning if your listeners.
01:15:30
Speaker 4: So what is the position, Well, the Voice still exists. If are you tazi a government is elected, our.
01:15:37
Speaker 9: Position hasn't changed. Our position has been the same throughout and that is that we want a body that is representing Aboriginal people in South Australia to government and to Parliament to be workable and productive in the interest of the original people. And that's why I called out this legislation before it was passed as a defective model. It's while we're support it, and it's why I've had a private member's bill on the notice paper this entire Parliament that would reform and improve it. Now what we've heard, Danny, the Joint Presiding Member, came and addressed to Parliament second key address for the Voice just recently thirteen November and eloquent address and special occasion in the parliamentary year. What was clear from that was that this body has had some engagement with government, it's had some engagement with chief executives. And what's also abundantly clear is that it's had it's had no use for the means by which it's so called a voice to Parliament. And that's because the model for engagement to Parliament is totally unworkable, always always was, and so we haven't changed. We're completely consistent, and I've been calling on Kaian Maher and the government to adopt a workable model since before it was passed. At the one briefing that Kay and marr A forwarded me in the weeks leading up, I actually said to him, have you missed the trick here? Have you missed the key marked? Because the bill that established this voice actually dismantled the long standing parliamentary committee dedicated to engagement with Aboriginal people, and unlike our model that we actually introduced in government, contrary to what the Premiere failed to recall, which set up the means by which a proper representative body of Aboriginal people could engage with a parliamentary committee with all the powers of parliament, inquiries, evidence, you name it, what it's elected to do, which is totally contrary to that, and your listeners will relate to this. It's put it over in a corner and said, oh look what we've given you. We've given you this bright, shiny thing that we call of Voice to Parliament. But it's just not that at all and Australian.
01:18:05
Speaker 4: But the key question, though, Josh Teigue, is if it's that bad, are you going to get rid of the Voice?
01:18:13
Speaker 9: What we're what we're going to do is to implement the bill that I have had on the notice paper the entire Parliament. And let's be clear, every Wednesday Parliament sits, I've moved to progress debate on it. The government has shut it down.
01:18:30
Speaker 4: In simple terms, what does that bill do? Because I mean, you know what the views of the rank and file Liberal Party are about the Voice. Indeed, a lot of labor voting seats in South Australia, like Spence had the highest no vote when it was put to the test at a federal referendum. They want it scrapped. Are you scrapping the Voice or you're just introducing a new committee that will sit on top of the Voice.
01:18:52
Speaker 9: What South Australians can expect Liberal government to do is to make anybody that is functioning in the interest of Ooriginal people workable and productive, and so we will we will improve and render productive.
01:19:06
Speaker 15: Uh.
01:19:07
Speaker 9: The the the body that's there, now we've already seen, you know, and it's been it's been said far and wide.
01:19:13
Speaker 2: So hang on. Just to be clear, your criticism of the Voice, Josh Tiger, is that it it doesn't go far enough.
01:19:19
Speaker 6: It just doesn't work.
01:19:20
Speaker 2: So it needs to be it needs to be enlarged.
01:19:23
Speaker 9: What it needs is to is for the Parliament and for the government to adopt a bit more of an attitude of humility and say, if you're going to hold up some so called significant step for Aboriginal people, you better make them work.
01:19:35
Speaker 2: So would you would your bill, see I see the taxpayer spend more on the voice.
01:19:41
Speaker 9: Look, it's not it's not about money.
01:19:43
Speaker 2: It is a taxpayer. Would you will your will, your version of the Voice ultimately spend more than the incumbent version.
01:19:51
Speaker 9: I strongly doubt that. And you only have to go back to the consultation that doctor Roger Thomas did and I presided over his address to the Parliament Historic No several years ago. Now, we we won't be wasting public money on a model that doesn't work, and you talk about other things that are cause of prostration. Obviously, to date the elected model has has you know, it's just it's just not worked.
01:20:20
Speaker 2: And so it hasn't worked. I just want to drill down on this. So you're going to add an extra layer and not spend any more money?
01:20:28
Speaker 9: No, and on that, because we're not going to add an extra layer. And and Kai Mar has said, we're all over the place and this is a joke or an added layer of bureaucracy. On the contrary, it strips away what what can only be described as you know, as as symbolism and gesture and replaces it with substance and productivity.
01:20:52
Speaker 4: Just to be clear that, Josh, will there still be a state voice, will there still still be the six regional voice? And will there still be elections?
01:21:04
Speaker 9: What we'll do. What we'll do first is to ensure that if it's called a voice to Parliament, then it actually has a means of engagement with Parliament.
01:21:14
Speaker 7: And I've got to.
01:21:15
Speaker 9: Say that, you know, liberals are about focusing on what will work and what is productive and not on symbolic gestures.
01:21:23
Speaker 2: So fair to say a vote for Vincentazi will see a strengthening of the voice here in South Australia of the Voice to Parliament.
01:21:30
Speaker 9: I'd say that that will certainly occur. And what will occur is that is that what will happen is you'll have a body that will be able to inspire confidence not only among broaders South Australians, but among Aboriginal people themselves. You know, the presiding members leaders of the Voice hugely conscious of this. You don't have to listen to what they've said publicly, and so far what we've seen is a body that, so far as engagement the Parliament is concerned, has proved itself to be ineffective. And as I said before the bill was passed, it's a defective model. It should surprise nobody that it hasn't actually proved to be Just can.
01:22:15
Speaker 4: I just ask exactly the same question again, because you just said again the voice is defective. Will there still be a voice under Atarzi a liberal government?
01:22:24
Speaker 9: Yes, there will. But the magic is not in the name, David. The magic is in the work that it does. And you only have to go back over the choices that labor has made to see how Aboriginal representation, particularly to Parliament has gone backwards rather than become more productive. And you know, you can ask anyone who's close to the process and I think you'll get a consistent answer. What is at the base of what we will do at all times will be focused on work ability and productivity. And as I said to you right at the beginning of this conversation, like all your listeners, expect day to day workability, productivity. That's what we've said consistently. I'm on the record for now the better part of three years with a model for improvement and that's exactly what we'll do. So you know, you say, will there still be a voice under a liberal government, It won't be recognizable in terms of this present structure. What it will be is something that works in the interest of Aboriginal people and Alsouth Australian.
01:23:34
Speaker 4: Josh t the Shadow Minister for Indigenous Affairs, thank you for joining us this morning.
01:23:43
Speaker 2: They are a unique entity to see how Australian book part, aren't they? I mean that among liberal movements in the country. So just the scorecard now is the Federal Liberal Party campaign against the Voice. The South Australian Liberal Party are now campaigning to strengthen the voice. Josh t said that they are campaigning on a platform of net zero in South Australia as the federal Liberal Party are voting to abandon net zero. It's just it's a by way of understatement, a very independent arm of the Liberal Party with the Liberal movement naturally.
01:24:17
Speaker 4: I think the bigger issue might go to one of incomprehensibility based on the feedback on the text line Crich you should just just text after text after text. See. I did a piece of The Australian yesterday trying to tease this out and spoke directly to Vincent Tazi about what is the position. This is a significant thing. You know, we're unique in Australia. We're the only parliament that has this legislated voice. It's been up and running for two years now. The Libs under David Spears they had a different model which was for this aboriginal representative body, not the voice, and the position was totally different to Labors. But what I can't understand is that this is remarkable disconnection. So many people are Conservative voters are texting us now going once again a Liberal party too scared to have a point of difference Josh Tigue as clear as mud, I want to vote Liberal, but what a joke. Scrap the voice is a simple action to make clear the decks and start again. Another one, This interview is exactly why the Liberals are going to get smashed at the next day of election. This one here, Unfortunately the Liberals are a train wreck. Another one Josh, Australia voted no. Another one here Peter and Mano para guys. Vincentazi has lost my vote. They don't even know what they're proposing with the so called voice change. Is another one here, Dave. We don't want a bloody voice to Parliament. You know, the piece I wrote in the Odds had almost more than two hundred readers going good, a clear position, And it's like now that maybe I accidentally beat the story up, because now that the perception that they had a clear position on it where to a man and woman, everyone who read that article in the Australian Conservative voters going good about time, It's like, hang on, that's not really what we meant. It's just and it comes down to the schizoid identity crists gripping this party, which is we want to hold seats in out of suburbia. We want to win back seats in out of suburbia, but we don't want to upset people only and Marialta and Morphat who voted yes to.
01:26:43
Speaker 2: Which the consternation federal around that zero has proven because we have hard polling data that shows in inner suburban scenes, in and out of suburban seats, there is a view that something needs to be done about the climate that's been born out in the polling. So I get the DIFFI goodly they are forming a position there. But we had pretty strong polling about the voice too, and there was not an overlap with that sort of issue. It was pretty clear that it was unpopular everywhere.
01:27:12
Speaker 4: Well, the only places where it was popular though, were the really rich parts of town, sure like, I think it had its highest vote in Millswood or Goodwood or something like that. You know, the only places where it got big support was in seats that are currently held by David PERSONI, which might explain why no one really has any clear idea what the Liberals are going to do about it.
01:27:37
Speaker 2: They've got bigger issues than just trying to win Unley at the moment, just trying to win any metropolitan seat.
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01:28:07
Speaker 4: Lovely having you in here, Linda. Now I've eaten your wonderful biscuits, your Sea salt lash with a cheese plate there, absolutely terrific. But there's more to you than just just crackers, isn't there.
01:28:19
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01:28:26
Speaker 4: And all the pretty Christmas as well. Give give the puddings and the gourmet cakes a bit of a push as well.
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Speaker 21: Yes, so we've got three sizes of Christmas cakes, three sizes of puddings, mince pies, panned for and Siana cakes, so you'll find them at our local food lands. Tony and Marx wearing Cole's local at Saint Peter's where else are we We're everywhere.
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Speaker 2: Looking at some of your terrific products in the Facebook and YouTube live stream at the moment. For those watching, they can see a handful we're going to be giving away behind you as well. Look spectacular. I didn't realize it was a family owned business as well. Yes, what's the history of the family.
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Speaker 21: So Robert Angela's owned the business for almost thirty years. It was started off in strath Album. They moved to Woodside about twenty years ago. Their daughter is the sales rep. Yeah, so the daughter also made the.
01:29:22
Speaker 2: Hamper to fantastic. Yes, it's got the family's touch that hampered.
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Speaker 21: So he's very family owned and they're very still much involved in the business.
01:29:30
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, it's great. And you know when you hear about these local businesses using all the free range roadies, eggs from Claire and priding themselves on you know, supporting all the local producers as well. Really, you know, it doesn't get any more South Australian than that.
01:29:42
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Speaker 2: It's impossible to escape your lavosh and any winery around South.
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01:30:02
Speaker 4: You turn up with a box of cars water crackers.
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Speaker 2: They throw you out exactly right as they should. March you out in your head, get out, get out.
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01:30:20
Speaker 4: Sorry, we're still in a tack mode.
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Speaker 2: We've got one hundred dollars hamper to give away, which is full of all that magnificent stuff you just to Linda talk about. Eight double two three, double o double five is the number if you'd like to get your hands on it. Otherwise, mate, your Christmas all the better with some magnificent stuff from Bailey's Linda Kurland. Great to have you in the studio, Thanks for joining having us.
01:30:44
Speaker 4: Thank you.
01:30:44
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break back after.
01:30:46
Speaker 3: Five News David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast twenty.
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Speaker 2: Minutes to nine. A moment ago we were joined in the studio by Linda Kirtlin from Bailey's who do the their Apicurean Delights, the Levat and so forth. She mentioned on the way out her father and father in law Graham and Colin longtime five double a breakfast listeners. So good morning you Graham and Colin, and Graham and Colin absolutely Legends men of obvious takes exactly right. Wasicurian good word will from Epicurus, god of biscuits. I think that they called. That's not my own work, that one. That was the call.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, the Epicurian Delight, Baily's Epicurian Delight exactly right now on a cheese plate.
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Speaker 2: They do delight. Hey, we're going to delight over the course of the next thirty minutes with surprising to give away. Oh yeah, we have our Legends Lounge of course. Kate from Cumberland Park currently on the Legends Lands, so we're going to contest that very shortly. That is an opportunity to get the prize of a lifetime ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture could be yours if you're occupying the Legends Lounge Pole position. Friday next week, Kate has it this morning, Kate could keep winning. We'll find out she'll be back next with a new contestant in just a few moments time. But before that, Leigh Forrest has been out about meeting great local businesses for our five double A twelve Days of Christmas. Today he's chatting with Will Overall from Adelaide Zoo. So if you'd like to win a family pass to the zoo and a giraffe feed for the whole family. My daughter would love that. She loves the drafts escape to the world over the holidays at the Adelaide Zoo. Get calling now eight double two three, double A double five Adelaide Zoo dot com dot au for what's on and when Well.
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Speaker 23: Overall is the visitor Experience manager here at the Zoo. This has got to be the world's best work close.
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Speaker 23: Oh, we're sitting here in the panda exhibit. How they're going.
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Speaker 18: They're doing very well actually so yeah. Both these new panthers arrived earlier in the year. Elan and sing Chu and bringing a lot more I guess youth and energy.
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Speaker 22: Again.
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Speaker 18: We love the two previous we had, but yeah, it's a real joy for the visitors to see these younger pandas.
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Speaker 23: So the two pandas and new edition. She've got more additions to the zoo.
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Speaker 18: Yes, we've also got some amazing Cappy Boroughs, so we had three Capybarro brothers have arrived from Sydney again earlier in the year. They're doing really well and there's the experience as well that goes with that, where you can sort of head in, get a bit closer and give them a scratch, which is quite cool. There's also a lot of younger monkeys as well, so there's some coll of us babies kicking around who are very cheeky and fun to watch.
01:33:14
Speaker 23: The zoo is the best for the kids anyway. But do you do extra special things in the.
01:33:17
Speaker 2: Holidays, Yeah, we do so.
01:33:19
Speaker 18: We have an amazing events team. They'll put together a kid's trail or a kid's activity each school holiday period, so they're working through that at the moment. I sort of had a little look earlier and it was looking really really cool. So the kids will very much enjoy that one again this year.
01:33:31
Speaker 23: Thank you for being part of the Twelve Days of Christmas.
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01:35:11
Speaker 6: Well, we normally see some separation in our surveys from how we feel about the state versus the national picture. But what we're seeing isn't widen now survey after survey to this point where the GAP's teen points, which is the most significant we've seen. If you think about the messaging and the narrative that's coming out of South Australia at the moment around business confidence. There's been some national surveys that have said South Australia is the best place to do business. We've had some banking studies that have said similar things, and that's starting to build a picture about how we're feeling about our own situation. And this has been backed up probably in the last quarter, specifically by some steadying of sales orders, to the point that businesses are now looking forward to the quarter we're currently in December when they did this survey in saying how we actually things are going to pick up even further going into Christmas.
01:36:03
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like the negative Nelly Andrew, but so many business owners I speak to, particularly small business owners, all they do is talk about power prices and some of these comparative surveys, like I mean criche, Well we compare ourselves to Victoria, we might as well compare ourselves to Venezuela the way their economy.
01:36:22
Speaker 3: Is going.
01:36:25
Speaker 4: Now.
01:36:25
Speaker 6: Dave, you make a great point, because these surveys don't make my job at an easier adpretating on behalf of the business South Australia and that the government ways waves are back of me. But it's important to realize here that when we say things are improving, there's a baseline score of one hundred, which is neutral. We're still sitting at ninety. We're not in the positive territory yet. And to your point, small businesses and we hear it from them all the time. They're letting us know that what we're experiencing here in essay is somewhat of what we call it two speed business economy. By that, I mean if you're part of the government supply chain, life's good, there's plenty of work, you're getting paid on time, happy days. If you're a small business, there's a lot of sectors that are doing it very tough still, and they're impacted by the fact that, as you said, their energy prices have never been higher, their insurance premiums have never been higher, wages are up, all the cost of inputs in their business have gone through the brief in the last couple of years. And at the same time mums and dads have been putting their hands in their pockets because there's been a cost of living crisis. So by no means to be out of the woods. But I'd rather be having tub Australia seen as a good place. It's a difficult place to do business.
01:37:33
Speaker 4: Well that's right. I mean, you know, we're talking about the available pool of money for investment in Australia and it does come down to a question of Victoria of the SA for a lot of people on the southern half of the continent, and well, let's go to Adelaide. That's that's good.
01:37:48
Speaker 6: That is good, and we're seeing and hearing hearing more of that. There's certainly businesses on the Eastern seaboard who see major infrastructure projects slowing down in that part of the country and they're head here to South Australia. And I speak to my counterparts into State and they're all asking, what is it that's happening at South Australia right now? Why is there of us about the state? And I put it down to major projects such as Aucus. But some things as basic and simple as major events like gather around that I see bring business leaders into the state who experience firsthand what's happening here. And there's a lot to be said for the power of those.
01:38:25
Speaker 2: Hey, Andrew, I was really interested in a tidbit in this survey data that goes to the use of AI by businesses. You mentioned offsetting some of those input costs that are impacting business and it seems it's largely through using AI that businesses are seeing a way to improve their financial position. So according to your data, forty one point nine percent of businesses were not using AI a year ago, so forty two percent not using it twelve months ago, now just twenty four point two and not using So three quarters of businesses are using AI at the moment. And I find that really interesting because we keep talking at this AI revolution and certainly anecdotally you hear a lot about it, but it's the first time I've seen some local, rich South Australian data that goes to the uptake that we're seeing. And presumably it'll it'll continue, it.
01:39:17
Speaker 6: Will, but there's a word of caution around this. Or eighteen months ago, I think we first asked the question will and it's about thirty percent of business using it, and then it nearly doubled a year ago, and now what's grown another twenty five percent or so into this survey despite the fact that nearly three quarters of businesses are using it When we ask them, hey, do you have a policy in place or some sort of guardrails around this in the workplace that says what programs you can use or how you can use them? Only sixteen seventeen percent of businesses actually have an AI policy. When we asked that question a year ago it was around thirteen or fourteen percent, So there has been very little change in the number of businesses that are actually taking care of how they manage ALI as opposed to those Yeah.
01:40:01
Speaker 2: Well, the pitfalls can be very public and very embarrassing if you get it wrong. Andrew, thank you. We appreciate Andrew K the c SA Business Chamber with an interesting snapshot of the South Australian business scene.
01:40:13
Speaker 4: Do you have use AI?
01:40:15
Speaker 2: Yeah?
01:40:15
Speaker 4: Lots? What for.
01:40:18
Speaker 2: Generally answering any stupid query that ever pops into my head?
01:40:21
Speaker 4: Did you just use it to answer the question I asked you?
01:40:23
Speaker 15: Then?
01:40:27
Speaker 7: No?
01:40:31
Speaker 4: Can you get AI to sound like sort of disheveled fifty six year old radio presenter on Fridays and I can go on all four day week.
01:40:38
Speaker 2: Don't don't even joke about it. Don't even joke. My fear is someone's already working on it somewhere. Yeah, someone called no for management exactly all right, funny. If you want to get on the newly sacked yourself on air, We've we've got Trevor, have we?
01:40:57
Speaker 4: Oh?
01:40:58
Speaker 2: That was exciting? Kate h Trevor coming up in just amindment for the Nordic Furniture Legends Lounge. Kate is the legend on the lounge at the moment. Can Trevor unseat her and then pave a path to ten thousand dollars worth of Nordic furniture. We're going to find out on the other side of.
01:41:14
Speaker 3: The break David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, five.
01:41:19
Speaker 2: Minutes to nine. It's time for our Legends Lounge Quiz. Thanks to the wonderful people at Nordic Furniture. Wasn't it great getting in and seeing the craftsmen at work at Nordic Furniture with their excellent range of all sorts of stuff. Nordic Furniture crafting, bespoke, premium luxury furniture by hand right here in South Australia for fifty four years. We have one of the great prizes we've ever had to give away. It's a ten thousand dollars furniture package. You win it if you occupy the Legends lounge on the at the end of Friday show next week. Right now. The person on the lounge is Kate in Cumberland Park. You comfy there, Kate.
01:41:59
Speaker 5: Very comfy.
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Speaker 8: I don't really want to get up.
01:42:00
Speaker 15: Guys.
01:42:01
Speaker 4: No, you don't have to, Kate.
01:42:02
Speaker 2: If it's as simple, you need to be unseated, Kate, and the person trying to do it is Trevor Inport no longer South Morning, Trevor.
01:42:08
Speaker 12: Morning there.
01:42:08
Speaker 2: You can't, guys now. Kate knows the rules. But just for your benefit, Trevor, your name is your buzzer. The first to two correct answers wins and occupies the lounge. Kate and Trevor.
01:42:21
Speaker 4: Are you ready?
01:42:22
Speaker 9: Yep, yep, all right.
01:42:25
Speaker 2: Question number one, how many sides does a heptagon have? Yes, Kate seven, Jesus good. Comfy on the couch.
01:42:38
Speaker 4: Heard of a hepton?
01:42:39
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Question number two, what term for a female goat can also mean someone employed? Yes, Trevor many, oh, Trevor, Okay, it's ding dong. Now it gets exciting. One a piece. The next correct answer is occupying the Legends loungee Bacardi is a well known brand of what.
01:43:07
Speaker 4: Do it?
01:43:08
Speaker 2: Can we get a ruling there?
01:43:11
Speaker 4: That felt like a dead heat? To me?
01:43:12
Speaker 2: That was a dead heat.
01:43:16
Speaker 4: I reckon it was a dead heat.
01:43:18
Speaker 2: All right, we'll go to the next question.
01:43:20
Speaker 4: I think we're going to call that a dead heat on fairness.
01:43:22
Speaker 2: Ground, we can't tell. We looked out to the booth and they gave us nothing, absolutely nothing. By the way, for.
01:43:28
Speaker 4: The first time, frankly.
01:43:31
Speaker 2: Well we just got a gesture in unison. Then it was like something befitting the Gallagher the media synchronized swimming. All right, we'll try this one. Here we go, Caate and Trevor. Seismology is the scientific study. Yes, Trevor, earthquake. Trevor, you are on the Legends Lounge and we'll be back tomorrow morning to contest again as as it can possibly be. Sorry, Kate, you're a great occupant. You got us off to a terrific start. Trevor, you'll be back on tomorrow morning.
01:44:10
Speaker 6: All right, Thank you guys.
01:44:11
Speaker 4: We'll give Kate some Wallace tickets as well. After the sheer nerve racking drama of the Bacardi question Bacardi being rum of course, but Trevor world done mate.
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Speaker 11: Thank you very much, got it all right.
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Speaker 2: We'll Trevor. We will chat again tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: S Porties represent in the in the Nordic Furniture Quiz.
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Speaker 2: They can get there, they can. They can transport the furniture down there to port no longer, don't worry about that. Oh yeah, nord they can get it overseas. They have sent pieces to Singapore recently.
01:44:39
Speaker 4: Got to get it down there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can get it there. That was a lot of fun. So someone else is going on the Nordic well maybe not tread might be Trevor again. But another chance to occupy the Legends Lounge tomorrow thanks to Nordic Furniture. And of course we continue running the competition right through until Friday next week before we give it away. That is all from us on this Tuesday, the second of December, stick around, Graham Goodings is coming up after nine o'clock. We'll catch you tomorrow morning. From six, I was trying.
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Speaker 21: To find.
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Speaker 2: Tray bouncing half the sounds like personal sloan ns.
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Speaker 14: This is street Well, I'd love to go through with you.
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Speaker 4: Made over a copy A lot of this is true.
