Critical Elements: Buffalo Bills vs Jacksonville Jaguars Matchups | DC

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It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake
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puts it down, the kick is.
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On the way, and d dock and the bill good one?
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Home?
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How one? They were a party one, not party way?
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Incredible?
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Why not combat by my bell?
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Jacksonville's perfect record on the line right here.
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Quick.
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Kicking, look excited.
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Touchdown Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable.
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They puttied william Who's has to full back and he
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scores a touchdown. It's wealthier to face tackle.
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In this episode of Disguised Coverage, Appreciate you, folks for
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tuning in. In this episode of Disguised Coverage, we are
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going to be diving into the critical elements and matchup
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pieces for the Buffalo Bills versus Jacksonville Jaguars Week three
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primetime game, a game that sees both teams kind of
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onpposite ends of the spectrum heading into this Week three
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game with the Jags being zero to two and the
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Bills being two and zero. But the Jags have been
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a sneaky, annoying, painful team for the Bills in the past,
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kind of having their number a little bit the past
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couple of years, especially last year in London, which was
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a particular pain point for the Buffalo Bills team in general,
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but especially the offense. And so we're going to dive
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into as we do here in season four disguise coverage,
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the matchup pieces, schematics, structure, players, position groups, coaching pieces,
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situational aspects, anything and everything is available to be talked
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about on this episode and in this episode and to
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have that conversation, I am joined by mister Jordan Delugo
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of Generation Jag. Jordan, we were chopping it up before
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we went live here. I appreciate you taking the time
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for joining me. You do really great stuff in general,
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but especially on the Jags I'm pumped to have you
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on to have this conversation about Yeah, a team that's
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just weird kind of. I don't know. I feel like
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the Jet this game, and I don't want to shade it. Actually,
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before I do that for as yours, I'm getting ahead
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of myself. Tell everybody who you are, what you do
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where they can find you. Again, you do really great stuff.
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I appreciate you taking the time for as yours.
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Yeah, absolutely, I appreciate you having me on Love Cover One,
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Love your show, so I cover the Jags, do you know?
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Try to put out as much content as possible, quality
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content for the Jags at Generation Jaguar on YouTube or
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at jin jag Out actually on YouTube. And then I
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also have Rogue Football where I'm talking to NFL at large.
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So like I've been watching the Bills a little bit
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as well, paying attention to from Josh Allen and all
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that good stuff and big time draft guy as well.
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Just dropped my first three round mock draft for the Jaguars.
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Because people are like want and change already. People are
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like fire the head coach, fire the GM let's move
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on to next year after an zero to two start,
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So it's a lot of fun. I try to give
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people what they want. But yeah, as I said, really
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appreciate you having me on great show. Fired up to
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talk with you here.
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I was gonna say, I think I think I started
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I first started following you. I think it was last
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off season. I think it was during draft time. I
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think I posted something and you and I were talking
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about a prospect, and then we followed each other right
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after the discussion. And yeah, I sympathize and empathize as
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like as as a person who covers the Bills but
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who has always been a Bills fan, I'm so used
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to like, Oh the team is oh and two. All right,
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fire everybody, we're onto the next season? Who what pick
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are we getting? Who are the best prospects to have?
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To get that kind of situation. It's all all too
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familiar for myself and I know for a lot of
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Bills Mafia. Within that conversation piece before we really dive
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into the nitty gritty of everything, high level view of
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this Jags team oh in two coming into this game,
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and as you know, we've talked about a lot of people,
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you know, kind of calling for heads and grabbing torches
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and pitchforks, when it comes to this squad and this team,
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I thought they were a little hard done in Week
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one against Miami. The Travis etn fumble on the punch
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out by Javon Holland like easily could have made that
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twenty four to seven at the time and kind of
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been a little bit of a nail in the coffin.
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And then you get the ridiculous fourth down stop where
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Ramsey is running back and forth and covering tons of
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grass to help make the stop on the Jags, and
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then you can you really only get done in by
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that huge explosive touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill. I liked
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what the Jags did in Week one defensively, I felt
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they deserved that win, obviously didn't get it, and then
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stumbling a little bit against the Browns. The Browns game
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worried me more than the Dolphins game, especially from an
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offensive perspective, which I'm sure we'll talk about in this episode.
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But you know this team inside and out, sitting here
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at zero and two, are they what their record shows?
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What's wrong? What's going on? Just high level, what's going
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on with this Jaguars squad?
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Yeah, they definitely are what their record shows, because you know,
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even with owning the game against the Dolphins for almost
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forty five minutes, they did make a lot of mistakes
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down the stretch, both from a coaching standpoint and execution
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wise that ended up costing them clearly. And then against
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the Cleveland Browns. You know, I thought the it was
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the home opener for the Jaguars. I thought that the
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offense and defense came out slow. The defense gave up
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consecutive long drives to the Browns, but for an Amari
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Cooper touchdown or I mean drop, they might have scored
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a touchdown on their second drive instead of scoring a
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field goal. So it was ten ZIP after two drives.
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And that was like halfway through the second quarter already,
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just the Browns dominating the time of possession in the
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first half. And even though your defense only gives up
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sixteen points obviously eighteen points total with the safety, but
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sixteen points, and you feel you should win a football
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game in the NFL if you only go sixteen points.
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But when the Browns have the ball for almost the
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entire first half, they kind of get in control of
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the game a little bit. To Shaun Watson was running
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around looking a lot more comfortable than he has in
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a while, and he's undefeated in his career against the Jaguars.
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Ridiculous.
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Yeah, his days with Houston.
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Just seems always happy.
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They are with their record shows right now. But do
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they have the ability to be more than that? I think,
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without question. I think a lot of Jags fans forget
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like they started out one and two last year before
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they ended up being eight and three in the blink
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of an eye, and started out four and seven and
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twenty twenty two before they won, uh, you know, five
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out of six games to clinch a playoff spot. So yeah,
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they're owing two and they have not played great football,
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but they've been right there at the end of both
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of these football games. And you got the Bills coming
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up Monday night football in Buffalo.
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Not an easy task.
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You got the Texans right after that, so two really
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tough matchups to try to claw yourself out of this
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hole a little bit.
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But is it possible?
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Certainly, But the Jags have a lot of work to
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do to get to a point where they can win
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one of these football games and get back kind of
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in contention, I.
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Love how you pointed out how the Jags have started
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like the past couple of years, because my prevailing thought
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going into this game is based on how the Jags
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have kind of been the past couple years and who
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the Bills have been seemingly for like forever. It would
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be so Bills and so Jags. For the Jags to
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come in and just win this game, like a game
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where everybody's like, man, the Jags really suck. They're kind
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of dead in the water, and it's like, Wow, look
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how good the Bills are. And then the Jags win
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like seventeen thirteen or like twenty four to twenty or
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some victory that you're like, oh, that kind of tracks,
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and especially with how the Jags have kind of had
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the Bill's number, like like I alluded to in the
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intro these past couple of seasons. Just yeah, I don't
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know why. I just feel like weirdly uncomfortable about this game,
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despite the fact that they're in and a lot a
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lot of the pieces you talked about in so much
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of this conversation, I feel like consistently ties into the
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offensive side of the ball. I love one of your points,
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you know, the time of possession. That one hit me
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super hard. I didn't look at the raw stats before
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I watched the tape from Brown's Jags, and I think
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it was in the second quarter. I was watching and
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Jags got stopped and then like the next time they
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got the ball, there was like a nine minute difference
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on the clock, and I was like, did I did
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I like scroll too fast? Did I miss a whole drive?
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And I had to like go back, And I was like, oh, no,
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I didn't like Brown's just because I started with the offense.
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Was like the brown just had the ball for a
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ton of time, and yeah, it was just I think
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slow start is a perfect way to put it. But
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then also like I feel like in kind of typical
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Jags fashion of what they've been recently, like they start
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to make some plays in the second half and then
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they're starting to like inch closer, but then they just
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can't get it done situationally, And so much of the
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conversation comes back to Trevor Lawrence. And I wanted to
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use that to kind of bring up a graphic from
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our friends over there at bet US who they got
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some quarterback grades from the first two weeks, and if
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you know what is Trevor Lawrence there is on the
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fourth line receiving a D grade for the first two weeks.
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Do you think that's accurate for Trevor Lawrence And whether
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or not you do, how much of the poor play
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for the offense or for Lawrence himself is due to
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Lawrence or due to Peterson and kind of just the
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play calling elements that seem to a bend in question
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for the Jags team.
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Yeah, I think a DA is definitely really harsh. First
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game against the Dolphins, I thought Trevor Lawrence played really well.
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The Jaguars decided not to put the game in his
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hands at all.
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In the fourth quarter.
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They just decided to try to go into a shell
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after that Travis et and fumble and try to run
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the ball clock. The game basically didn't end up working out,
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and if they had given Trevor Lawrence more opportunities in
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that final quarter of that game, I think it probably
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could have ended up differently. The Dolphins, I thought, were
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having a tough time with that passing offense when they
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were trying to have some balance on that side of
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the ball, So I thought he played really well in
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Week one. Overall, there was certainly some drops. Christian Kirk
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had a couple drops, and the Jaguars unsurprisingly it seems
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like every single year the receivers are at the top
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of the league, and every single year you see the
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pass pro grades and they're not great. And then last
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week he did start slow a little bit. I thought
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the entire offense started slow. The entire team started slow.
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He had a good second half overall, and I do
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think if you were just grading that first half, probably
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a DA is fair, but overall, probably a C last week,
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a B the week before, So somewhere in that range
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G plus B minus for the year for me, for
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Trevor Lawrence.
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Very fair. I'm I'm in lockstep with you. I've got
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I've got some points that i want to say, but
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they're tied to one of my matchup pieces, so I'm
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gonna keep it in the holster for now. But yeah,
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I thought this was was harsh for Lawrence, especially considering,
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you know, a great point. I'm immediately thinking like Brian
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Thomas Junior had a couple drops in the Browns game.
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Strange had one on a really nice ball on an
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outbreaking route towards the sideline, and then like the next play,
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a throw from Lawnce came in a little hot on
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the spot route, but it went through Stranger's hands again,
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but then Strange makes up for it later like they're Yeah,
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let's pivot. Let's shift dive into the matchup pieces, the
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critical elements that will decide Bill's versus Jaguars. You were
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the guests, so you can go first. I don't know
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if you have them ranked. If you do, you can
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Yeah.
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So I think for me, when I look at this matchup,
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the first thing I see, and it was the same
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thing I saw last week the Jaguars tackles Cam Robinson
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and Anton Harrison. You know, when healthy last year, they
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were both solid in past protection. They have not really
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been solid in past protection so far this year. And
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it certainly doesn't help when you're playing Miles Garrett. It
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doesn't help when you've got Jalen Phillips who somehow coming
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off that achilles looks unbelievable.
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Fine, yeah right, it doesn't help.
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But it also doesn't help when you got guys like
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Von Miller looking healthy, Gregory Russo playing great football. So
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I think that just like conceptually the Jaguars expected to
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have good pass protection from their tackles heading into the year,
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and that hasn't happened yet consistently enough. And so if
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they're going to be the type of offense they want
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to be, they need to have a little bit protection,
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better protection throughout the line. You look at Ed Oliver,
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he can absolutely wreck the shop as well. And they've
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got depth up front, the bills due defensively, so they've
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got a bunch of guys that can get the job done.
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I think if the Jaguars want to help Trevor Lawrence
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in this football game and help make it a little
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easier for him, they've got to just be able to protect,
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not like way better, but like a little bit like
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maybe execute on like two percent more dropbacks in terms
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of pass protection than they have been the last couple
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of weeks and give Trevor Lawrence a chance.
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That was so that was like my fourth point. I
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think it's so funny that you led with that. I
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was so close to making this one instead of what
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my number three ended up being.
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Yeah, I was.
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You know, the Jags line is weird to me because individually,
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like I don't think they're terrible, like I cam Robinson
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is fine, Ezra Cleveland is fine. I'm the Bill's old
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line is good. But I'm still sad to see Mitch
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morse go, although I know what his struggles and his
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limitations are. I thought, suref, I've liked Brandon Shurf. I
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thought he had a rough game against Cleveland, and then
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yet I echo your thoughts and sentiments on Harrison and
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so much of it too for me, especially in the
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game against the Browns. And I know the Browns defense
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is a good unit based on what they were last year,
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but it just seems so many like issues in protection
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were tied to like the schematics of it, like they're
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sliding and just leaving a free runner. And Etn's having
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pass pro issues where he's just not protecting, he's not
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scanning properly and fitting where it looks like he needs
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to fit. I thought Dearonis Johnson was solid in passport
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for most of the game. He had one or two
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errors that I'm remembering off the top of my head,
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but he's scanning and fitting it and fitting where he
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needs to in the A gap, and then they'll put
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Etn in there and he looks and just leaves it's like, no,
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like Hicks is coming through, Okay, you're just gonna let
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Hicks go, and then Hicks us through and they would
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show five and bring four and slide to one side
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and you got a defensive tackle coming in free. It
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just seemed like there was a lot of disconnection up
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front with their pass protection. And again, for me, it's
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weird because I don't individually, I don't think they're bad,
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Like I don't look at the line. I'm like, all
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that makes sense because this guy is subpar and this
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guy is subpar. I think from a talent perspective, they're
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really at worst like kind of an average group. But
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for whatever reason, it just seems like schematically they're pretty
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challenged in pass protection right now. And then it's Lawrence
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is the one who's really paying the price because they're
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on him in just a hurry, like over and over again.
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Yeah, I think communication has been an issue pre Snap,
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whether it's Mitch Moore and Doug Peterson alluded to this,
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whether it's Mitch Morse, you know, trying to identify protection
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and blitz packages, or Trevor Lawrence himself not doing it properly.
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Doug Peterson said communication has got to be better. And also,
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like against the Browns, just pre snap operational beyond just
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the communication and setting protections was an issue. Just getting
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the playoff in time, fair like, and that's in it.
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I mean, you can't have that issue in year three
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of an offense with a with a quarterback in year three,
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and I know it happens, It does happen, but it's
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it's got to improve for the Jaguars to be able
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to be the type of offense they want to be.
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And last week too, specifically, like beyond just having trouble,
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you know with tackles, dealing with Miles Garrett and Zadarius Smith,
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their blitzes were killing the Jaguars linebacker blitz safety like
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Jeremiah was korama. They couldn't touch him, they could not
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touch him, and they really had a hard time with
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Grant Delpit as well whenever they decided to blitz him.
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So I thought that that was a big problem. And
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if the Bills want to blitz heat it up a
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little bit more with those linebackers than they normally do,
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I don't think that's a bad idea this week, And.
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It also felt like the like every time the Browns
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used a run blitz it worked for like a negative
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like two or four yard loss for the Jags. Like
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every time there were runs where they they pull Robinson
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or they pull Harrison, and to your point, like Delpit
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or Cora Moa or Hicks at times two would trigger
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immediately firing and shooting through the gap and Etn's hit
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like as he's getting the ball from Lawrence. And there
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was one two I remember one play action where they
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pull they pull Harrison to make it seem like they're
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running a tackle wrap and Hicks, I think, immediately triggers.
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And then Lawrence goes to give the play action fake
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it's from guns, so Etn cuts in front of Lawrence
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and as Lawrence is giving the fake, Hicks is already
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barreling down on him. So then Lawrence is trying to
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make a move, but he trips over Etn and falls down.
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And it's just like I just felt like every time
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they blitzed it worked to your point, like against the
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past or if it was a run blitz, they were
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generating negative yardage and changing that toxic differential consistently, And
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I didn't know if it was the Browns picking up
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on keys or just perfect timing but yeah, it just
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seemed like when the Browns were playing on that front foot,
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it worked time and time again. And it wasn't just
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a pure well look who they have. It wasn't guys
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just winning one on one. It was guys coming screaming
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through the alley free, untouched and causing problems in the
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run and causing problems in the past. I love that
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point from you. That's really well said. I don't know
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where to go, all right, I'm gonna stay on the
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Jags offensive side of the ball since you led with that,
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and so I didn't know how to title this, so
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I titled it how many how many Trevor Lawrence throws
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do we get that show him to be the prince
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that was promised? So basically like, how many prints that
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was promise throws from Trevor Lawrence do we get? And
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I think back to if for everybody listening, if you
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have not seen it, I feel like it fell under
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you know, the storylines in week one because the Jags lost,
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Like the type of throws I'm talking about his touchdown
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throat to Brian Thomas Junior in Week one against the
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dult ridiculous, ridiculous he throws that when he throws it
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and where he places it is insane. Thomas is coming
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from the field side on a deep over in the
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red zone. He throws it when Thomas is in like midfield,
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while pressure is bearing down on him and he's getting hit.
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Then he layers it over a linebacker Jalen Ramsey and
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Jordan Poyer right into the bucket to Brian Thomas Junior,
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who catches it right right on the boundary in the
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back and toe taps like that throw was gorgeous, even
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and I know it wasn't. Maybe, I mean it was
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more challenging the one he made against the Browns from
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a distance perspective, even the one he threw to Brian
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Thomas Junior in Week two, the sixty six yard or whatever.
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Gorgeous throw, really nice acceleration from Brian Thomas Junior. But
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I feel like Lawrence with a decent amount of regularity,
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even in games where he's terrible, he's like thirteen to
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twenty seven for one hundred and twenty something yards, he'll
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pull off like one to two throws where you're just like, oh,
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like that's the guy. That's the guy that was like
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the top recruit and started early at Clemson and why
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he was the number one pick, and so I just
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want to know, like, how many you know, Prince that
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was promised Trevor Lawrence throws do we get? And also
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how much does it matter or swing the pendulum a
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little bit in this game, because, like we talked about,
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the protection for the Jags has been shaky and overall,
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I just I feel like they're play calling hasn't been
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great situationally. Even just to use one, you know, kind
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of microcosm as an example, you got the ball in
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the two yard line the brown safety. Your protection has
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been shaky all game, and you go spread and you're
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running an out and up towards the bottom. And what
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makes it even worse is the outing up was there
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Brian Thomas Junior is open? Yeah, Emerson squats and Thomas
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is open, but Lawrence has literally no time And just
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like why are you going shotgun on your own two
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when you've had issues in protection all game? Like so
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the situational play calling, the red zone play calling wasn't
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great in that game. They're one for four in the
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red zone against Cleveland. It just overall their offense just
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feels disjointed and almost kind of like they're calling plays
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just to call plays, and so my thought is this
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offense will only go as far as Trevor Lawrence making
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some ridiculous throws will take them. I also really like
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Travis Etn, and I think you have the opportunity for
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Eatn to bust off some explosives whenever he has the
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ball in his hand. I don't care if it's on
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a dump off or a screen or the run. And
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then Brian Thomas Junior is explosive as well. But yeah,
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it feels like so much of this offense is just
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Trevor Lawrence has to make like a god to your throat,
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which he can. And then my thought is, Okay, how
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many of those does he make? And then what kind
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of impact do they have because has the game gotten
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away from them? Is it close? How much does that
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swing the pendulum? Because man, he can just he can
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really uncork some throws that make you just stop and go, oh,
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like that's why he's that good and make you want
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to rewind and watch it on the All twenty two.
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They're just some of the throws he makes are just
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crazy impressive.
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Yeah, they really are, as you mentioned, I mean, it's
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it's a sight to behold at times, and I think
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you know the question how many of those will matter?
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How many of those are made. Obviously protection matters, but
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who he's thrown it to when he does that as well,
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Like some of the passes that go incomplete are unbelievable passes.
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But when he's thrown it to Brian Thomas Junior, that
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connection is something special. And the Jaguars got to target
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him more. They've got to target him more. They didn't
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target him a single time in the second half against
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the Miami Dolphins. I think he only had four targets
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against the Browns. Like, this guy needs to be getting
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close to ten targets a game, not only because if
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how talented he is, but because of how much better
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he is than everybody else. You have, like no disrespect
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to any of the other guys. And Evan Ingram's injured,
483
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Like he pulled a hammy right before the game against
484
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the Browns, so that's obviously a huge bummer for their
485
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passing attack. But Christian Kirk hasn't gotten it going yet
486
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this year. Gabe Davis, y'all know what Gabe Davis is. Like,
487
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He's a guy that he can get the job done.
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At times, but then he can be a little inconsistent
489
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at times. And so Riyan Thomas Junior is the guy
490
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from a talent standpoint in that passing offense, and they
491
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need to feed him.
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They've got two.
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Yeah, and Bill's corners are cooking right now with Douglas
494
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and Benford, and they showed up well in Week one
495
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against Harrison. I also wonder too, from a coverage perspective,
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do they roll anything Thomas's way. They are obviously very
497
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familiar with Gabe Davis. They know where his strengths lie,
498
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where his areas of opportunity and weaknesses lie. So yeah,
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that passing game structure in terms of just what Laurence
500
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can do. Man, He's just so I'm even thinking of
501
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like all the great throws he makes, and then I'm
502
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:14.400
thinking back to this Browns game where he just like
503
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airmails it on like a ten yard out and just like, man, like,
504
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:20.119
what is just the I always say the yin and
505
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.400
the yang of Josh Allen because like the craziness that
506
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makes him do amazing things is also the craziness that
507
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:28.559
makes him do really stupid things. And then Lawrence sometimes
508
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:30.759
is the same, like he pulls not the craziness. But
509
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he just pulls out some jaw dropping amazing plays and
510
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then the next time, like he can't complete like a
511
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simple pass, and you're just like, just yeah, just be normal,
512
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.599
like what is going on? Just tap into like lean
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into that. Yeah, just be normal, like be the super
514
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or just be the super sayan that you're capable of being.
515
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He makes these throws and then the next day he
516
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goes from being like Goku to Crillon and like the
517
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blink of an eye, it drives me nuts.
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Yeah.
519
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A lot of the time it is early when these
520
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things aren't going well, and then like he settles in
521
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at some point and then it's just like, is there
522
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an enough time for them to win the game?
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Yeah?
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It's kind yeah, kind of like the Cleveland game, like
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things start out slow and things are ugly, and then
526
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it's like, okay, here they go and he scrambles for
527
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like thirty yards and he's making these throws and it's
528
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:13.680
just like, yeah, is is it too late in the game?
529
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Are they down by too much? And again that factors
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into my point there too, of like when he starts
531
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on quirking these throws, is it twenty seven to six?
532
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Is it fourteen? To ten, like how close is it
533
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and how much does it matter? Yeah, it's it's uh yeah,
534
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.039
it's wild to see that, all right.
535
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.799
Weirdly, they've they've started faster on the road too, so
536
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that's something to keep in mind.
537
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Oh good point.
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I'm so it's weird.
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I don't know why I am not overlooked like and
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I know a lot of people in the comments are like, no,
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this will be easy, like jet, I just don't feel
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good about it. I also never feel good about like
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any game. But there's just I don't know if it's
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the Lawrence aspects or some of the pieces I like,
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or just the history of it. I just feel like
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this game is going to be a problem, and I yeah,
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it just sticks in my brain. I Dan, I don't
548
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know why, but yeah, I like I like your opener,
549
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:02.759
like might as well, what do you got for your
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number two?
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So this one? You know.
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Obviously, Khalil Shakier over the last year has become one
553
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of Josh Allen's favorites. Josh Allen loves to target the
554
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middle of the field. I think if Darnell Savage is
555
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.279
unable to go, that's another guy who suffered an injury
556
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late last week. If he's unable to go at nickel
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Jari and Jones, the rookie out of Florida State, who
558
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is very talented, very aggressive, great athlete, He's probably going
559
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to be seeing a lot of Khalil Shakir one on
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one man coverage.
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He had a really good Week one.
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I mean, he was covering Tyreek Hill one on one
563
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on a slot fade, didn't give up an inch, but
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then last week it was a little bit more up
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and down mixed bag. So I think that could be
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really interesting to see that potential matchup again. Because the
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Jaguars play a lot of man coverage, Jari and Jones,
568
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especially playing in the nickel, will have a lot of
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man coverage opportunities. Khalil Shakir trying to cover him with
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Josh Allen throw in the football will be a big
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task for him.
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I really, you know, going back to that Week one game,
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I was, I guess maybe not surprised, but the Jazz
574
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came on and played a ton of cover one against
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Miami in that Week one game, and they were creative
576
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with it, like sometimes you're getting the robber from the top,
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sometimes you're getting a low hole player. I thought Savage
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did really good coming down and processing like the high
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lows and reading to his eyes and shifting. There was
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one I'm thinking. I think it was on the third
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down stop where I think Waddle clears out the middle
582
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and it's cover one robber and Savage comes down from
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the top and he takes that away and then he
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reads to his eyes and Toua goes underneath the burrios.
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It's like a third and five and Savage meets him
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right at the sticks, pops him, knocks the ball out incomplete.
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Just what they did from an athleticism standpoint, Like I
588
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thought Campbell looked good in that game before he pulled
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up lame in that one. Yeah, I like what they
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do defensively, and I really like two this guy's in.
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One of my points is not too much for a spoiler.
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I thought Ryan neils And coming from Atlanta was such
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a good fit for this defense based off of what
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he did in Atlanta. No disrespect to Atlanta, but what
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they had up front last year wasn't the most talented group,
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and I thought he had so much better pieces to
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work with in Jacksonville. And I thought he was a
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good fit stylistically and schematically with the Jags d I
599
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.519
still do like their defense. It sucks that they are
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so banged up in all the injuries they have, especially
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on the back end of things, but I really do
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like their defense, and I think they can give most
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offenses problems with the combination of athleticism and tenacity they
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play with. But then also kind of with Nielsen at
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the helm and just how all that fits together and
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meshes into one.
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Yeah, I agree with you completely.
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One thing people are starting to get a little frustrated
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about is just how much rotation there is. And you're
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always gonna have rotation up front, but like starting linebackers
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not playing more than eighty percent of the snaps, Like
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people are getting.
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A little front, like you don't want Foyle Lucan off
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the field. I get it.
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I think Ryan Nielsen is doing a great job, though
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I agree with you the mentality he brings every.
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Day, like he just he walks the walk, he talks
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the talk.
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He preaches attacking every single day like every day is
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every day is game day for the Jaguars defense. And
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you see that in practice, not that we can really
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watch practice anymore, but like throughout training camp, they just
623
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brought it so hard single day, and I think they'll
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continue to do that. I think Ryan Nielsen is going
625
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.799
to have a coherent game plan every single week. I
626
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.839
love how he'll mix things up on third down, he'll
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break tendencies, he'll show you things he hasn't shown you
628
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in a few.
629
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Weeks or all year. And the way he's able.
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To communicate, and christ Ra Shard, who's basically like the
631
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second in command on defense and the secondary coach, the
632
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.279
way he's able to teach and communicate as well is
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really really vital for what they've got going on. And look,
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I mean, sixteen points in Week two. They gave up
635
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.000
twenty points to the Dolphins in Week one. I think
636
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the defense is moving in the right direction. But yeah,
637
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it's interesting. No, Tyson Campbell, I think would be a
638
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:13.279
bigger issue against other teams than Buffalo. Like it worries
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me more against Houston, Yes, then Buffalo. And no disrespect
640
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.240
to Buffalo because like Josh Allen's unbelievable and you know, Kincaid,
641
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.359
Shakir all these guys can play great football. But Buster
642
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:30.519
Brown matching up against like legit number one receivers from
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an athleticism perspective is more of an issue than what
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00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.119
the Bills present on the outside right now. In my opinion,
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00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:39.119
it'll be interesting to see that matchup. Actually, Buster Brown
646
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.759
won on one because he was playing so physical last week.
647
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I mean, he doesn't have great speed, but man, he
648
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:45.359
was bringing it.
649
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Yeah, and which I thought was cool because to your point, like, Okay,
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you don't have the speed and athleticism, so can you
651
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lean into what you do best? And he was like, yeah,
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I'm just gonna play physical as hell and we're gonna
653
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see like what happens. And yeah, I thought he played well,
654
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which is also I think, and I think your point
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about the Bills wide receivers is also really great in
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tying into you know, your second matchup piece there with Jones,
657
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because I do think like, if there is a receiver
658
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.680
to worry about right now, it is Kohalil Shakir. And yeah,
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I don't think that's a fair or an unfair comparison.
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Like you look at the Texans are loaded at wide receiver.
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00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:20.839
I know a lot of Bills fans still think of
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you know, Okay, Stefan Diggs is the story there. Maybe
663
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.680
you know Tank Dell because he's really small but good.
664
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Nico Collins is like a legit top eight wide receiver
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in the league. And there's you. If you wanted to
666
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.720
push and make a case and say that he's higher,
667
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I wouldn't hold that against you. I've done so many
668
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.400
tweets breaking down aspects of his game from last year
669
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in the Texans offense, and if you go by any
670
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.640
advanced metric like EPA yards per route run EPA per target,
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like he's top five and top three for a ton
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of them. He had a crazy good year. And yeah,
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I think I don't think the Bills are a team
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right now that they're not going to stress you outside
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with the wide receivers unless they're taking Dalton Kincaid and
676
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.039
you know they're doing a three by one and using
677
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him as like a quasi X receiver, And then you
678
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.119
have to be like, oh, okay, we are we matching
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with our our with one of our corners. Are we
680
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.400
doing the safety of the linebacker thing? But if it's
681
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just straight up wide receiver on wide receiver, and I
682
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.119
don't think the Bills room is bad. But you can
683
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.279
get away against Keyon Coleman right now and Matt Collins
684
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right now with Buster Brown, especially with his game and
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00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.799
how physical he is. Hollins wants to win with physicality.
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Coleman wants to win with physicality, so does Brown. So
687
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.640
it's kind of like a like for like where it's
688
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just like, Okay, let's see who can beat the hell
689
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out of the how to the other one and get
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00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.720
the win. But if you're coming inside exactly your point,
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then the conversation shifts to Kincaid and it shifts to
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secure a little bit. I think that's where they're most deadly,
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especially when you pair that with what the Bills have
694
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done formationally and personnel wise in terms of their twelve
695
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and eleven personnel groupings, where it's like, are we gonna run?
696
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Are we going to pass? We can do either out
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of these personnel groupings. We can go spread, we can
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00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.519
go conne out of either of these personnel groupings, like
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pick your poison. What do you want to do? You
700
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got to cover for everything.
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00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:06.079
Yeah.
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I think that's very well said and a really good point.
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And it also this ties in well with my second point.
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I was surprised seeing these numbers that I'm about to
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rattle off. So my second point is how much the
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Jags defense can generate pressure and mitigate yards after catch,
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00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.480
so these and these numbers called me by surprise. So
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00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.079
per Next Gen Stats, the Jags defense has a twenty
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00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.639
five point six pressure rate, which is twenty ninth on
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the season. The Bills have the fourth lowest pressure rate
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allowed at twenty four percent and when it's which is good,
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especially considering their middle of the road with time to
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throw at two point seven nine seconds, so it's not
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like they're just running out a ton of quick game
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and that's why it's like that. And then the Jags
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00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.920
have a twenty one point eight blitz percentage, which is
717
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towards the bottom of the league. I thought it would
718
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.599
be a little higher with Nielsen, although I know he
719
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.760
does mix in like some sims and some creepers. But
720
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.880
I thought we'd see more five man pressures. We haven't
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thus far. Maybe he'll bust it out. But the yards
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after catch was huge. The Jags have allowed three hundred
723
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and twenty nine yards after catch, which is the most
724
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.119
in the league. Granted a bunch of that is come
725
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.599
in on that Tyreek Hill eighty yard touchdown. And then
726
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.320
the Bills, who have talked about yards after catch honestly
727
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:21.599
for like the last like three years, season after season
728
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.840
they're sixteenth right now in yards after catch. So I
729
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.239
wonder between these two things, right, the Jags aren't generating
730
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.360
a ton of pressure. The Bills are really good at
731
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.239
mitigating pressure. The Jags are letting out a ton of
732
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.480
yards after catch. The Bills are kind of mad at
733
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.480
yards after catch. I wonder which one of these is
734
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.880
the unstoppable force versus the immovable object type of thing
735
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.880
which one gives, does neither give? What do we see
736
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.519
schematically from it, especially with what we've seen from the
737
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.719
Jags these first couple of weeks, with the physicality they present,
738
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.599
the coverages they played on the back end, the injuries
739
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.199
that they have on the back end, like you've talked about,
740
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.119
and really to the defense as a whole. Coupled with
741
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:01.119
that rotation, I think that's where that conversation starts for
742
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.639
me defensively, and then obviously factors into your Jones piece
743
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:05.039
as well.
744
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:06.480
Yeah.
745
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.000
I do think that's fascinating too, because, like you mentioned
746
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.920
a lot of the yak Is, Tyreek Hill and and
747
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:18.679
the Dolphins in general, they were running so many screens. Yeah,
748
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.320
and the way the Jaguars were playing defense man dea
749
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.519
man coverage, the screens were working, and they're gonna work
750
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:27.800
against most teams that play the way that.
751
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.559
I think I was thinking of one too like that
752
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.320
early on. I think it was like literally the first
753
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.960
series of the game Jags Dolphins, it's like third and
754
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:36.920
long and it's like a little screen to Echan and
755
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.239
he runs for like thirty or forty yards up the sidelines.
756
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.360
So that influences as well. Yeah, fairpoint, fairpoint.
757
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.079
Yeah, So I look at that for sure.
758
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.239
So I don't know that they're gonna be this team
759
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.159
that gives up a ton of yak all year. It'll
760
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.480
be interesting to see that in this game because one
761
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.159
of my next point is actually it ties into that.
762
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.960
But then also the pressure two.
763
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:58.679
It was just getting the ball out on these screens
764
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:04.000
so quickly, you're just not gonna get pressure. You're not
765
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.519
gonna get pressure against those types of place And I
766
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:15.679
think the Bills playing more shell, more zone coverage than
767
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.360
the Jaguars were in Week one against the Dolphins was
768
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:20.760
probably a smarter play than what.
769
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:21.800
The Jaguars were doing.
770
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.800
The Jaguars, it worked for three quarters, but then as
771
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.360
soon as it stopped working, it really stopped working, and
772
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.480
they were a little bit bend.
773
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:30.440
But don't break.
774
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.000
Even in the first three quarters because they were denying points,
775
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.559
they were denying touchdowns, but they were still giving up
776
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.559
the yardage on the screens in the short plays. But yeah,
777
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.159
I think that it's interesting for sure to see if
778
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.199
the Jaguars can get pressure in this one because the
779
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.400
Bills have been so good in past pro and Josh
780
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:56.280
Allen's obviously unbelievable at playmaking, regardless of it's with his
781
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.320
legs or you know, rolling out of the pocket and
782
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:03.840
finding somebody down the field. But this does play under
783
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.039
the act. Thing Andre Cisco and Antonio Johnson and the
784
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.800
Jaguars two starting safeties they're tackling in space has.
785
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.800
Been horrendous and you didn't really expect that.
786
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:15.199
Uh.
787
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.800
Andre Cisco right now he has a thirty percent missed
788
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:23.519
tackle rate. Antonio Johnson's at twenty eight point six.
789
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.519
Damn that's crazy. Hiphe both crazy.
790
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.119
And you've seen it, and it's negatively impacted the game
791
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.519
for the Jaguars defensively. And of course, again you can
792
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.719
sit here and say, well, the Jags haven't giving up
793
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.960
a lot of points defensively, It's true, but if you
794
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.719
continue to do that, and if you do that against
795
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.639
Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. That could be a
796
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:48.159
real problem.
797
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:53.079
Yeah, that's super fair. And it like that whole that
798
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:56.400
whole piece, the mistackle piece, the yards after catch, even
799
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.119
the pressure piece. I find it so interesting this one
800
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.760
because executive there's been like these situational or game script
801
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.400
elements that have affected both. Right, Miami's sitting there right
802
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.400
now with the second lowest time to throw in the
803
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.920
league of two point four to four seconds. That includes
804
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.320
Skyler Thompson playing this week so two ago in Week two,
805
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:15.920
so TWOA went out and they were still doing the
806
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.039
same thing, quick passes, getting it out. And then the
807
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.079
Bills only have forty two pass attempts on the year
808
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.840
with Josh Allen, So so much of it for me
809
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.440
is like, Okay, is the low pressure rate for the
810
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.239
Bills because they haven't they don't have a ton of
811
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.119
sample size, or is the line really this good? And
812
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:32.840
then for the Jags, it's like, okay, are they not
813
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.440
generating pressure or is it because the Dolphins get the
814
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.119
ball out quickly? Because I also think to your point
815
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.719
the tape, there's some really good pressure tape in Week
816
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.800
one against Miami with the games they were playing up
817
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:44.159
front and some of the wrecking, the wreckage that they're
818
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.280
causing upfront on that defensive line for the Jags. And
819
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.960
then yeah, that mistackle piece, that's a great call out
820
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.679
with the safeties. And I wonder how much the Bills
821
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.599
can stress that element of the Jags in general, because again,
822
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.840
even we've seen it. I alluded to it every offseason
823
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.679
for the past three years. The conversation Allen says it,
824
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.360
the offensive coordinator say it was Dorsey last year, it's
825
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.440
Brady this year. So much of the conversation is yards
826
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.280
after catch, yards after catch. Josh Allen talks about putting
827
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:16.480
the ball in the right spot so as receivers don't
828
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.800
have to break their gate and maintain stride and get
829
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.840
up field right after. And then a lot of it
830
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.039
was okay, but like Stefan Diggs is really kind of
831
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.920
just catching routes and getting hit right away because those
832
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.559
are the type of routes that he runs when Diggs
833
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.360
was here. And then it's like, okay, get somebody else.
834
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:33.159
Change that differently now, and Shakier gets yards after catch,
835
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.519
and it also gets yards after contact and all of
836
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.239
these pieces, and with what we've seen thus far through
837
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.599
the first two games. In that regard for the Jags
838
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.119
defense and the Bills offense, I wonder how much of
839
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:49.480
it is opponent driven and more circumstantial versus this is
840
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.440
who they are, this is who they're gonna because even
841
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.280
the mistackle stuff for the Jag safeties, right, I think
842
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.840
about like, okay, like something that's gonna be influenced by
843
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:58.400
who you're playing in Week one and like it's hard
844
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.840
to tackle the Dolphins do space because they're so fast.
845
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.079
But then it's like, okay, as we go along the
846
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.480
rest of the year, do those numbers drop a little bit?
847
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.079
And how much of it is of what we're seeing
848
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:10.880
in that regard from my point and from where you
849
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:12.440
just said there, how much of it is driven by
850
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:17.320
circumstantial opponent and game script versus this is who these
851
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.519
teams actually are and this will continue as we go forward.
852
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.239
Yeah, that's a great point. And I.
853
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.440
Everybody has a job to do right analysis wise, you know,
854
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.880
whether they're covering a specific team or covering the league
855
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:31.599
at large.
856
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.719
And everybody's trying to figure it out.
857
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.519
Right now, like what is going on around the NFL
858
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.239
and what's real and what's not real? And I honestly,
859
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.519
just think after two weeks, you don't know, and we
860
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:49.239
want to make these sweeping.
861
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.320
You know, sweeping.
862
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.920
Arguments, statements and concrete points, and yeah, it's been too much.
863
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:58.519
It's difficult to do it. It's difficult to do it at
864
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.480
this point. Like, so the Saints are going to the
865
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.920
Super Bowl, right, Okay, it's gonna be Saints and Vikings
866
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:11.400
in the NFC Championship. Yeah, Chargers are probably gonna win
867
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:11.920
the AFC.
868
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:13.000
Oh.
869
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:17.400
Yeah, you know. It's just it's too early. That's fair.
870
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:18.199
That's fair.
871
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.519
And that's why I like seeing. It's funny so many
872
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.519
like I've been tweeting out like stats in different pieces,
873
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:27.840
and I keep saying, like the sample size is small
874
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.519
or like granted it's only been two weeks or little
875
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.639
things like that, because I don't want it to get
876
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.360
out there. Of like like von Miller right now, he's
877
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.480
amongst like one hundred and nine qualifying edges. He alluded
878
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.400
to him earlier in one of your points with him
879
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.079
looking like he's, you know, kind of back to himself
880
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.480
through one hundred and nine qualifying edges. Right now, he's
881
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.280
six in pastors productivity, He's ninth in win rate. And
882
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.320
he's sixth in hurries and so I'm very like, I
883
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.280
think he looks good. He looks much better than he
884
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.880
did last year. He looks like he's rounding back into form.
885
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.639
And I keep throwing that cave on him there because
886
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.559
I don't want anyone to be like boom Von's back.
887
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:05.639
He's back and he's ready, because I don't know what
888
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.960
if by week seven he falls off, like it's been
889
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.280
two weeks. We need to pump the brakes on everything.
890
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.440
Who you know this like, who teams are in September
891
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.280
is not who they are in November and December. The
892
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.079
first month is not indicative of who you are as
893
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.280
a team. It takes a while for teams to find
894
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.280
themselves and really establish what's gonna work, who's gonna work,
895
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.159
and how it all pieces together. And yeah, that's why,
896
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.079
like I do think it's interesting seeing where the Jags
897
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.519
are in those metrics now and where the bills are
898
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.480
and do we see any give and take and how
899
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.800
much is just due to sample size and how low
900
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:45.000
it's how little we have right now versus you know,
901
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.480
are we am I dming you or your DM at
902
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.119
me in like week fifteen and it's like, man, the
903
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.440
Jags have allowed like historically are large yards after catch
904
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.400
this year and it like it continues or was it
905
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:57.320
really just like no, it's just because Hill and wabble
906
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.800
in week one, and you know that's it. Real quick
907
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.960
we do. Tying into that pressure conversation, We've got a
908
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.920
super chat from Carl, Tom and Carl appreciate you. You're here
909
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.119
pretty much every single week. Thank you for being here,
910
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:11.800
Thank you for the super chat. And he's got a
911
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:15.360
good question, so he says, can Dion Dawkins and Spencer
912
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.760
Brown contain Josh Heines Alan. I'll let you lead off
913
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.639
with this, Jordan. I think the world of Josh Heines Alan.
914
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:26.599
It's so weird to me to go with the name
915
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:31.559
adjustment now I keep now. It's like when Darius Leonard
916
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.760
switched to Shaquille Leonard. I couldn't get it right for forever.
917
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:38.760
I think Alan is nasty, I really, And I know
918
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.920
Walker has been much maligned necessarily hasn't lived up to
919
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.840
the first round or the first overall pick billing, but
920
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:50.320
there's something about just his speed to power. I'm gonna
921
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.280
run through a dude's face play style that I like,
922
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.000
and I think it pairs well in conjunction with Alan
923
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.280
is a true number one and Walker being more of
924
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.960
a true number two. But for this question, Deon Dawkins
925
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.079
Spencer Brown. Brown had a much better year last year
926
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:05.480
than he has at any point in his career. He
927
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.800
got rewarded with that contract extension recently. Dawkins got a
928
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.280
contract extension this offseason. People talk about him in that
929
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.079
kind of top ten left tackle conversation. What do you
930
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.840
think about heinz Allen versus both of these guys in
931
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:18.360
this matchup?
932
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.920
Yeah, so I think it'll be against Dion Dawkins a
933
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.760
lot more. He lines up on the defensive right side,
934
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.920
offensive left side a lot more than the other other
935
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:31.920
way around. You know, that's a good matchup. Deon Dawkins
936
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.199
is a very very good tackle in this league. I
937
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.599
think he's proven that over the last several years. I
938
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.000
don't know that there is more than a couple handful
939
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:46.079
of tackles that just one on one can contain Josh
940
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:51.000
heinz Allen all day. Every time you see him get
941
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.920
not have a big game, it's pretty much against a
942
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.079
team that's like Miami, where they're just getting the ball
943
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.280
out fast as hell, or a team that is willing
944
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.360
to double team consistently, which is another thing the Dolphins
945
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:06.159
did was was give extra help against Josh Heines Allen.
946
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.559
And that was another interesting schematic thing because like the
947
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.880
Jaguars decided to just rush three so many times against
948
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.280
the Dolphins, and it worked when the Dolphins were trying
949
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:18.880
to go deep usually, which is funny because every time
950
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.559
they rushed three last year under Mike Caldwell it ended
951
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.880
up being a disaster. So you're like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
952
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.639
oh okay, oh wow, ok. Yeah, So it's just kind
953
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.280
of funny the way things cycle and change. But yeah,
954
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.400
I would be surprised if if they're doing traditional dropback stuff,
955
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.400
you know, not getting the ball out super quickly and
956
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:42.719
not helping a little bit. I'd be surprised if Josh Hallen,
957
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.440
Josh Heines Allen is not able to impact the game
958
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:46.760
from a past rush perspective.
959
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:49.679
Yeah, at your point, I just think he's he's such
960
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:54.400
a monster with the moves that he has, his combination
961
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.920
of size and athleticism and length, but then plan and
962
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.840
moves and how he pairs it all together and even
963
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:02.639
you know, we talked about it multiple points at this time,
964
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.960
what Miami does getting the ball out quickly even with
965
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.239
that game one, and how much running Cleveland does. He's
966
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.480
sitting there right now. He's tied for tenth in total
967
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.960
pressures right now. His efficiency metrics aren't great because you
968
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.400
know he's not going to generate pressures when Miami's getting
969
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.199
the ball out in two and a half seconds. But
970
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.119
you see the ability on tape, and yeah, I just
971
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.840
I think those dudes like that who have that level
972
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.239
of talent, not that Dawkins doesn't. And I'm in locks
973
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.920
up with you too, like Alan, I mean, you'll know
974
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.639
better than because you watch way more Jags tape than
975
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.679
I do. But Allen is usually on the offense left,
976
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:36.440
defense is right. So I do think it'll be Allen
977
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.960
versus Dawkins and then Walker versus Brown, which Walker versus
978
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.880
Brown I think is also a fun matchup because yeah,
979
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:47.599
Walker is just speed and athleticism and his main thing
980
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.079
is speed to power. I'm gonna run through your face.
981
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.679
Spencer Brown is improved from a technical perspective. He's got
982
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:55.960
a really nice snatch trap. He can still be got
983
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.360
from an anchor perspective, like you can catch him at
984
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.880
the right time, I'm as you can anyone, but I
985
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.679
think him more than others, and you can drive him back.
986
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.039
I'm I think that Alan Dawkins matchup is interesting. From
987
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.239
good on good, I kind of lean to that other
988
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.960
side of Walker and Brown because I think Walker can
989
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.519
have some success just going speed to power and trying
990
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.079
to cave Spencer Brown's chest in and driving him back
991
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.639
into Josh Allen, which also I think works for, you know,
992
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:26.199
trying to compress the pocket and mitigate that escapability that
993
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:30.119
Alan has. I think both sides are really interesting in
994
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:33.679
terms of what the matchup can bring, just given how
995
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:37.880
Alan and Walker's skill sets match up with Dawkins and Brown.
996
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.639
I think Dawkins and Alan is very much like good
997
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.800
on good and you're just whoever wins one, you tip
998
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.199
your cap and like kind of go about your business.
999
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.800
But I do think Walker could give Brown some problems
1000
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.039
on the other side, and I'm really interested to see
1001
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.280
if he does. I feel like Walker's just a huge
1002
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.000
I don't know, I feel like every time he gets
1003
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.000
a sack, everybody's like, nope, it was a coverage sack,
1004
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:58.840
or Nope, this guy Alan did something and Walker kind
1005
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.320
of fell into it. And I do under stand it.
1006
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.280
But then like he's on tape, Like I know, he's
1007
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.800
only speed to power, but he's running through dudes at times,
1008
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.159
and it's really fun to like watch, and so I
1009
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.119
wonder if he can get Brown a little bit in
1010
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.039
this one too. I think both matchups are fun on
1011
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:13.800
the either side.
1012
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.719
Yeah, I agree completely, And I also think to your
1013
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.760
point of trying to contain Alan, I do think Ryan
1014
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.840
Nielsen is going to coach them defensive line wise to
1015
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.119
play contained, to not give up those gaps, to not
1016
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.519
give up those rushing lanes to Josh Allen this week,
1017
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.519
and it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
1018
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.760
You have to you absolutely have to your Cisco and
1019
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.119
Johnson point, was that off the cover? Was that your
1020
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:38.760
number three?
1021
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:41.920
That was number three for me?
1022
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.559
Okay, I like that, and that works perfectly because my
1023
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.960
three ties into something you just said. So my third
1024
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.239
point is ken the Jags force the Bills to lean
1025
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.400
heavily into the pass, and I literally mean like the
1026
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:58.400
pass only so Allen through two games, only forty two
1027
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.880
attempts through those two games I mentioned earlier, the run
1028
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.280
game has mattered a lot for this Bills team. It
1029
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:08.840
ties in, it ties in completely with their schematic identity
1030
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.039
this year, which is I think tapping into more of
1031
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.480
what the Rams were last year and what the Lions
1032
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:18.440
were last year, where you have these bigger, bodied wide
1033
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:22.320
receivers or capable and willing blocking wide receivers, and you
1034
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.840
can be in eleven or be in twelve and just
1035
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.559
be able to access more of the menu. The Bills
1036
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.880
eleven and twelve personnel groupings are kind of mirror images
1037
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.000
of one another in terms of you have this combination
1038
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:39.119
of size, athleticism, pass catching, and run blocking all in one.
1039
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.239
Especially when you get guys like Matt Collins and Keyon
1040
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.119
Coleman involved, you can access more than menu without having
1041
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.519
to turn the page. So the run game matters a lot.
1042
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.480
It's beneffective and for the Bills or any team really,
1043
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:55.320
but especially the Bills, if a team can remain two dimensional,
1044
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:58.000
they're so hard to be And if you add in
1045
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.960
the third dimension of Josh Allen's legs, it's even harder
1046
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.840
for a defense to stop the Bills offense. I want
1047
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:06.880
to see if and this ties into, you know, the
1048
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.480
pocket compression aspect. We talked about what you kind of
1049
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.760
envisioned for Nielsen in this week. Can the Jags make
1050
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.239
Buffalo win through the air and can they truly test
1051
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.679
the separation ability of the Bills wide receivers playing into
1052
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.159
that is obviously you know, can they generate pressure? Can
1053
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.440
they do it with four? Do they have the blitz?
1054
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.360
And I know it's a defensive different defensive coordinator in
1055
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.599
the last year, and a different Bills offensive coordinator than
1056
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:33.079
last year, but the Jags were so successful last year
1057
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:37.280
attacking the Bills protections, especially on third down. They were
1058
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.239
baiting them like, hey, we're gonna bring the blitz from
1059
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.239
here because we know you're gonna throw hot to that
1060
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.920
guy and then we're bringing this corner up and we're
1061
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.559
gonna make the stop. Like they were so good. Their
1062
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:52.599
five man pressures were great. They're they're timing of when
1063
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.840
they blitzed was great. They ran some sims and some
1064
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:57.119
creepers that were really well timed, and they were just
1065
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.280
gaming up and scheming up the Bills protections and it
1066
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.199
forced the Bill's hand a lot in that game. And again,
1067
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.920
different coordinator for the Jags, different coordinator for the Bills now.
1068
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.480
But I wonder how much of that do we see again,
1069
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.239
because we really haven't seen a team test the Bills
1070
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.039
like that this year. But again we're only two games in.
1071
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.119
It's a very small sample size. But the run game
1072
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:20.480
was very successful for the Bills against Miami, so they
1073
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.960
leaned into that. Week one was a big Josh Allen
1074
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.159
week against the Cardinals, but it wasn't a huge passing
1075
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.039
attack week. He only threw the ball twenty three times.
1076
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.559
He did a lot of damage with his legs, scrambling,
1077
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.719
making plays offscript. The run game opened things up schematically
1078
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.159
for the pass as well. So I want to see,
1079
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:37.320
and this is going to be a thing for me,
1080
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.280
like literally every single week, who is the first team
1081
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.079
that can force the Bills to be like, no, we
1082
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.960
want Josh Allen to throw it thirty five times, and
1083
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.559
we're going to live that way and see can he
1084
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.920
throw it thirty five times and stay efficient and stay
1085
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.360
with his good decision making or do we see a
1086
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.880
little more of that yin come out between the yin
1087
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.679
and yang and Josh Allens is he started forcing the
1088
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.400
ball little, but can we force him into an interception
1089
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.119
here or into a bad decision here? And I know
1090
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.159
for that might sound ridiculous to people, It's like, well,
1091
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:11.280
you want to put the ball into Josh Allen's hands more.
1092
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.559
I know how that sounds, but you just can't beat
1093
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.679
the Bills the way they've been living these first two weeks.
1094
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:18.400
You cannot allow them to run the ball with the
1095
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:22.079
running backs, have play action with the pass game, have
1096
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.760
the schematic advantage in the past that the run opens up,
1097
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.719
and then also have Josh Allen's legs from an off
1098
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:32.119
script and by design standpoint be a factor. You can't
1099
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.599
deal with all that, and it's hard to stop all
1100
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.119
of that. And when I look at the Jags defense,
1101
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.280
I look at their defensive line, how they can compress
1102
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.000
the pocket the athletes that they have there. I think
1103
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:44.920
it starts with being able to stop the run, and
1104
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.480
then yes, can you compress the pocket pen Allen in
1105
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.880
and make him so if Alan's dropping back I'm making
1106
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.280
this up, But if Allen's dropping back thirty five times,
1107
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.719
is he throwing it thirty two or is he dropping
1108
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.519
back thirty five and he's able to scram for like
1109
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.079
nine or ten times, Because that's then you're still dealing
1110
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:05.639
with that third element. So how much can they force
1111
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.800
Allan to purely win through the air? And then this
1112
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.639
ties into something we talked about earlier, and then by extension,
1113
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:15.159
you're also testing those pass catching elements for the Bills. Hey,
1114
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:18.079
key On Coleman, can you continue to separate? Hey Mac Collins,
1115
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.599
what are you doing? Hey? Kurtis Samuel? How healthy are you?
1116
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.920
Is it all? Shakir? Is it all Kincaid? You know,
1117
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.519
kind of testing those buttons a little bit and seeing
1118
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.360
who can really answer if we apply pressure there, given
1119
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:30.320
the questions that we have.
1120
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:35.679
I think that's a great point. And the Jags run
1121
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:40.519
defense has been strong. You know, one area we haven't
1122
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:45.440
talked about much yet. Devin Lloyd and Foyer looking are
1123
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.159
playing some of the best football that they have played.
1124
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.800
They have been so good. Foye has been good for
1125
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:53.960
the Jaguars, but Devin Lloyd's in the year three now
1126
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:57.119
and the former first round pick Jack's traded up for
1127
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:02.840
He's been outstanding, flying down hill, being assignment sound through
1128
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:05.079
the first two weeks and it's small sample size, but
1129
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:08.039
you've kind of seen this development arc coming from him
1130
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:10.360
over the last couple of years. It looks like it's
1131
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:15.119
finally really starting to come to fruition and they've they've
1132
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:18.199
made it very difficult for runners. Josh Heines Allen and
1133
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:22.400
Treyvon and Walker are both big, physical edge players that
1134
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:26.159
know how to set the edge really well. Devon Hamilton's
1135
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:29.639
getting back into his former form. You've got Eric Armstead
1136
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.599
playing some He's still not playing a full compliment of plays.
1137
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.079
I think they're still trying to ease him into this thing.
1138
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.199
But and their corners are physical against the run too,
1139
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:43.159
So if they can stop the run and force you
1140
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.800
into this passing game, that is going to be the
1141
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.159
fascinating matchup there between the Jaguars defense and in the
1142
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.440
Bills offense, Like you mentioned, because if joshes or if
1143
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:55.599
Josh Allen, it's not the Josh Allen.
1144
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.239
I hate this every time the Bills play the Jags,
1145
00:55:58.239 --> 00:55:59.920
and like, even though he changed his name now, it's
1146
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:01.800
still hard. It's so annoying.
1147
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:07.760
But if Josh Allen has one or two of those,
1148
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.599
you know, while Josh Allen plays where he just kind
1149
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:14.519
of flies off the cuff and the Jaguars are able
1150
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.480
to capitalize, does that change the ball game?
1151
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:17.719
We'll see.
1152
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:22.880
Yeah, And that's always I think that's it's risky for
1153
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.239
any defense. But I really do think like the way
1154
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.119
to try and beat this iteration of the Bills offense
1155
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:33.159
because of the prevalence and the effectiveness of the run game.
1156
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.480
And I know from a statistical standpoint right now, and
1157
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.639
even from an advanced metrics standpoint, the run game isn't
1158
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.360
great for the Bills. It was last year, it was
1159
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.239
one of the best, especially when you're talking about running
1160
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.639
back carries. But this year the conversation is so much
1161
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.400
more schematic for what it opens up for the rest
1162
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:53.960
of the offense. And it makes me think the way
1163
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:55.760
to try and beat the Bills is he had to
1164
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.400
force Josh Allen to having one of those Josh Allen
1165
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.960
games where he throws three interceptions and then it's like, okay,
1166
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:05.760
can we live that dangerously and get him to play
1167
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:09.280
more risk than he is reward and you're just trying
1168
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:11.519
to balance it out, right, like how much of the
1169
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.159
ginning yanga Josh Allen do you get? Do you get
1170
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:18.079
the boneheaded interceptions? And how does that how what's the
1171
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.400
ratio of that to like mutant alien unicorn plays that
1172
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.400
he makes And is that enough for you to win
1173
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.119
twenty four to twenty one or twenty seven to twenty like,
1174
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.519
is that is that enough to swing the pendulum and
1175
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.440
push the tide in your favor and cause it's just
1176
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:35.199
and again, this is true for any team if you
1177
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.320
allow them to be two dimensional and win with the
1178
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.599
run and be successful in the run in the past,
1179
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:42.480
it's so hard to stop anyone, and a team in
1180
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:46.360
teams with a mobile, agile quarterback like the Bills have
1181
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.519
with Allen, they're that third element again, is also prevalent.
1182
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:51.920
You just can't win like that. It's so hard to
1183
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.159
stop all three of those things. But even just too
1184
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.400
like game planning for a good run game and a
1185
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.800
good pass game is so hard and so part of
1186
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:01.639
me he just thinks like, all right, cool, we're gonna
1187
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:03.880
live and die with seeing if we can force Alan
1188
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.199
into some mistakes and if you can generate pressure. We
1189
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:10.199
haven't seen it this year much, but Alan he showed
1190
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:11.800
it last year too. If you can get pressure on
1191
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:15.519
Alan early and make him kind of doubt his offensive line,
1192
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:18.440
he'll start to bail out of that pocket earlier than
1193
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.320
he needs to because he'll be like, screw it, I'm
1194
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.360
Josh Allen. I'm gonna go be a unicorn and try
1195
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.679
and make a play. And that's not always the most
1196
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:28.599
efficient in terms of keeping you on schedule and allowing
1197
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.280
your offense to continue to succeed. And I do think
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the Jags have enough from a coordinator standpoint and from
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especially from a talent standpoint on the defensive line to
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kind of push them into that and pressure them a
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little bit. I would feel much better if I were
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the Jags. If I'm sitting there knowing that everybody on
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my back end is healthy. I think that obviously plays
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a significant role, but that's also just in the back
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of my mind. I at some point, I think some
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team is going to be like, you know what, and again,
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this is all easier said than done, but some team
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is going to be like, you know what, We're gonna
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force you to have to rely on your receivers on
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the outside, Like that's what we're gonna do, and can
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you rely on them? Can they win? And can you
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get the ball to them? That's what we're gonna do.
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And it's for week after week. It's always gonna be
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in my mind. I don't know if it's always gonna
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be a matchup piece for me because that they it'll
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vary by opponent. But again, like I just think the
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Jags could potentially do that based on their personnel and
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what they have and how they're built.
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Yeah, that's a great point.
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You know though, I don't think the Bills have much
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to worry about unless the Jags offense can get out
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of its own way.
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And see that's like that ties into my first point
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there of like tying into the Trevor Lawrence throw piece.
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How much does that does that matter? Right? Because if
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all of this conversation, I think the much more interesting
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battle is the Jags defense versus the Bills offense because
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your point there, For me, the Jags offense just seems
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like it's just like, I don't know, just won't get
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out of its own way. Like I said, like it
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just feels disjointed, like they're just calling plays to call plays.
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It's not like we're called this because it's gonna set
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this up later and we're building this to do. You
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01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.039
know what if it feels like it feels like the
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Doug Peterson story arc in Philly where things started out nice.
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It's like, wow, look at how good they are schematically
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and Carson Wentz and I think Lawrence is better than once,
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but then things just seem to kind of fall apart
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from a design stamp or not even necessarily a design standpoint,
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but a you know some some but play calling standpoint
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and layering. And when you're calling stuff again the you're
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struggling in past pro all friggin day, and you go
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shotgun and spread on your own too, and you call
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01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.400
it out and up when you haven't been able to protect.
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01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:41.280
And again, yeah, it technically the out and up work
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01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.280
Brian Thomas Junior was open, but like, why are you
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doing that? You have a Super Bowl like, you know football,
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01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:51.119
Doug Peterson, what do you And also nobody was there
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01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:52.920
to like check anyone, like I don't think we should
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do this right now where we can't protect, why are we? Yeah,
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just and so much that conversation that we're having with
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the Jags defensive Bill's offense exactly like you said, it
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01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:06.760
is so beautifully well put. It's move unless the Jags
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offense can can't get out of their own way, like
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if they continue to kind of just stub their own
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toe and shoot themselves in the foot, and then it's moved.
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Yeah.
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And they looked like the offense that you wanted them
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to be for the first three quarters in Miami mm hmm.
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And then they fell apart and.
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They showed flashes of it in the second half last week,
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but again second half you also saw the crazy decision
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to go spread and try to hit a long, developing
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route down the field from your own goal line.
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So man, it's just I was really but like week one,
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I was full into like I'm giving the Jags a pass,
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Like if ETN scores there, it's twenty four to seven
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because literally the next play after that is the deep
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shot to hill that makes it seventeen fourteen. And you know,
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every game, I forget who was the first person to
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set up, but everybody says it now like every football
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games are decided by like three to six plays or
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sometimes people say like two to four. And I was like,
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that is one that changed it. And the next play
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was a touchdown. There's your two yea of like the four.
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They changed that game. So I gave the Jags a
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pass and then I was like, man, the Browns offense
1278
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:14.079
is looking terrible. The jack should be able to do enough,
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and just with how they played it knocked out my
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01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.480
confidence in them a little bit. Yeah, I'm right there
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01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.159
with you. For those quarters against Miami, I was like okay, okay,
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01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:26.599
And then I was like, oh, no, it's not. Okay, Yeah,
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01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:32.199
just disappointing. Disappointing, all right, Jordan, before we send you anyway,
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01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.599
any thoughts, anything left on this game, anything that you
1285
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.920
got in the holster that you want to say and
1286
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:40.320
get out and if not, if you do, that's cool.
1287
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.000
If not, feel free to again tell everybody who you are,
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01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:45.519
where they can find you, at, what you do and
1289
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:46.239
all that good stuff.
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Yeah.
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No, I think it's a fascinating game. The Jags, for
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01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.159
whatever reason the last two years have played better away
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01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:58.039
from Jacksonville, and it's so bizarre. It's like your hometown
1294
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.840
fans should give you some energy. But we'll see. And
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like you mentioned, weirdly, Doug Peterson hasn't lost to the Bills,
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01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:09.360
Sean McDermott, Josh Allen struggled against the Jaguars.
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I don't know what that is. But I do think that.
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This has a chance to be a very fun football
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game to watch and analyze. If the Jaguars come correct,
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01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.559
which is a big, big if, it should be a
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01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:30.599
very fun game. I do think offensively for the Bills,
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01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:34.000
defensively for the Jaguars, that's going to be a nice
1303
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.880
chess match. It's just if the Jaguars offense can show
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01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:40.280
up or not. But yeah, that's pretty much all I got.
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01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:42.679
I thought this was a great conversation, good way to
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01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:44.760
get this thing started. We've still got six days till
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01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:47.719
the game, of course, since Monday night football, kind of a.
1308
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:49.719
Weird week with the late game.
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01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:54.239
But yeah, I'll be doing a bunch of Jags Bills content,
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you know, Keys to Victory for the Jaguars matchups, to
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01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.199
watch bold predictions, full game view, all that fun stuff
1312
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:04.239
in the coming days, and also talking about the Jaguars
1313
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.360
rookies as I do every week, seeing how they're doing.
1314
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.960
Go check out Brian Thomas Junior for sure, go check
1315
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.639
out Brian Thomas Junior. He's a lot of fun. But yeah,
1316
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.360
you can find all that at the jin Jag YouTube page.
1317
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:21.239
And I'll certainly be doing a week three power rankings
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01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.280
as well on Rogue Football. You can check that out
1319
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.159
see where the Bills land. But yeah, I really appreciate
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01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:28.639
you having me on. A big fan of Cover, one
1321
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:31.800
big fan of your show, and so it's an honor
1322
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.440
to be on here and can't wait for this football game.
1323
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.280
Yeah, it's fun. I'm part of me also just hopes
1324
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:38.639
that we get I don't know, like a shootout, and
1325
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:40.400
I just want to see Lawrence and Allen dueling and
1326
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:43.079
both like playing up to who and what they can be.
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01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:45.960
But yeah, there is some really fun potential for this one.
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01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:47.880
And yeah, this was a great conversation. I appreciate you
1329
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:50.800
taking the time. I sincerely enjoyed it. I feel like
1330
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:53.599
we could go for another like hour or longer and
1331
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:56.280
just talking about like all the details and niche aspects.
1332
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:58.280
And for those I say this every time I have
1333
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:01.000
a guest on the show, if if you're a football
1334
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.000
fan in general, you should be staying up on every team.
1335
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.079
And even if you're just a Bills fan, you need
1336
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:07.320
to be paying attention to every other team because every
1337
01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:08.960
other team is your enemy and you need to know
1338
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.079
what they're doing and how they're doing it. And Jordan
1339
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:14.599
is an absolute tremendous source for everything Jags, but, like
1340
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:17.639
like you mentioned throughout this episode, with everything that he's
1341
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.719
doing with rogue football and draft stuff and league wide
1342
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:23.559
things in general, an absolute great source for football knowledge.
1343
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.360
Find him at Jordan de Lugo on Twitter. That's at
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01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.480
j O r d A n D E l u
1345
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.039
g o is on He's one hundred percent worth the
1346
01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:36.119
follow and worth your time and investment. Jordan, again, I
1347
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.719
appreciate you joining me. You crushed it. This was awesome.
1348
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:41.519
I'm probably gonna DM you after this saying all these
1349
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:43.679
things again and thank you. You had a great time and
1350
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.079
you crushed it. But enjoy the rest of your Tuesday night.
1351
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.079
I appreciate the hell out of you. And uh yeah,
1352
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:49.719
I'll see you over there in the Twitter verse.
1353
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:52.800
Yes, sir, we'll talk soon. And good luck this week.
1354
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:59.840
Man, Thanks maning you too. Thanksy tremendous guest, mister Jordan
1355
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:04.079
de Lugo. That was really fun conversation and I sincerely
1356
01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:06.320
meant it. Go give Jordan to follow. He's worth it.
1357
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:10.159
Like I said, for those who weren't here earlier. He
1358
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.000
and I started following each other back during draft season.
1359
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:15.719
Not this year, but in twenty twenty three. He was
1360
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.000
breaking down some prospects or I was breaking down somebody.
1361
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:22.199
We started talking about prospects and position groups and rankings
1362
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:24.360
and big boards and all that stuff. And he's a
1363
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:26.119
really good dude. I was pumped to have this conversation
1364
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:28.079
with him. We got a little taste of what he does,
1365
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:29.480
but he knows what he knows what he's talking about
1366
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.360
from a football perspective and from especially from a Jack's perspective,
1367
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:35.599
so absolutely tremendous. Guess was pumped to have him on
1368
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.039
this episode. We're going to dive into some things on
1369
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.360
the back end here. Yeah, a good call here from
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01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.960
Joe who said Jordan's camera was streaming in sixteen K.
1371
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:47.920
Absolutely Chris video. It's the first thing I noticed when
1372
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:50.320
I checked out his content on his on his YouTube page.
1373
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:54.199
I love his background setup and just how it looks.
1374
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.000
I love the lighting. But yeah, that camera, Like I
1375
01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:58.840
like my setup and the camera that I have, But
1376
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:00.719
when I get somebody with a camp like that, I'm
1377
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:03.400
gonna be like, oh man, like he's he's playing in
1378
01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:06.480
the big leagues with that. Yeah, his camera was beautifully
1379
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:10.039
crisp u with what his setup was for. For those
1380
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:11.440
of you here in the live chat, we're still going
1381
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:13.239
to power on for a little bit more. What I
1382
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.360
want to do now, Any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything
1383
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.800
you folks have on your mind when it comes to
1384
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.199
Bill's jags, when it comes to anything we've seen through
1385
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:25.719
the first two weeks of the season, Bill's related NFL
1386
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:28.679
related questions thoughts, comments, concerns, anything and everything you got.
1387
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:31.400
Put it up into the chat and we'll dive into
1388
01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:36.760
that as we navigate the back end of this episode. Also,
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for those of you who have not already, if you
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have not already, please please please make you drop a
1391
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:42.440
like on this video if you are willing and able.
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I know it's corny to ask for that, but likes
1393
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.199
are the lifeblood of these streams and they greatly impact
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01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.480
the algorithm. So if you have not already, please drop
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01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.639
alike on this video. It goes a long way to
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01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:53.840
telling myself and the entire team to track and trend
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in front of more eyes and ears. Joe says, my
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Logitech serves me well, but he was streaming with the
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ones they use at the suit. Yeah, I got a
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Logitech as well. My Logitech Brio does great work. But
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01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:05.559
yeah he was, Yeah, he was up in there at
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01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:10.039
that one hundred thousand K that he's got there. Oh,
1403
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like this question here from Luke. As you folks start
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to put in some questions or thoughts or whatever you
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got into the chat, I want to plug two things
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or whichever podcasting Apple platform you are listening to this
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show on. I got some more bet Us stuff I
1421
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:04.680
want to talk about. But let's grab some comments here.
1422
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:08.840
Grab this person from Luke who says, what weapon do
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01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:13.119
you think proves the most difficult? Who's the most difficulty
1424
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:19.479
for the Jaguar secondary? Good question, because you said the secondary,
1425
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:21.880
I'm gonna stick with the pass. I'm going to say,
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Dalton Kinkaid, I know the athleticism, the Jags have at linebacker.
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01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.199
I just think Dalton Kinkaid is such a chess piece
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01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:32.439
for me, It's really going to come down to Kincaid
1429
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:38.439
and then to Jordan's point earlier, Kolio Shakir and whether
1430
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:41.600
or not Jones can cover him. I think, just with
1431
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:47.399
how the Bills offense is built schematically and formationally, how
1432
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:50.000
they're able to attack is really in between the numbers
1433
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:53.479
with Shakir and Kinkaid tying that in with the pass game,
1434
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:55.000
whether you want to score with the run game, whether
1435
01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:56.439
you want to go spread or whether you want to
1436
01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:58.800
go condense, whether you work in play action, whether you
1437
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:02.279
work in the RPOs. And I think Shakiir presents some
1438
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:05.680
good mismatch capability given where the Jags secondary is and
1439
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.239
how healthy they are or not. And then Kinkaid, I
1440
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:14.159
just think is more tight end in general than Kinkaid specific.
1441
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:17.079
I think tight ends are still the greatest mismatch creator
1442
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.039
on an offense. Teams with a true dual threat tight
1443
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.560
end can do so much. You look at what the
1444
01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:25.720
Chiefs did with Kelsey, and part of that dual threat nature,
1445
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:29.279
right is you just have to be serviceable as a blocker.
1446
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:31.640
You don't have to be George Kittle where you're up here,
1447
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.319
plus as a pass catcher and plus as a run blocker.
1448
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.600
You just have to be serviceable. You have to be
1449
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:39.840
willing and do enough. Kinkaid is in that conversation, and
1450
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:42.039
when you look at the teams that have these pass catching,
1451
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:44.800
dual threat tight ends, it opens up so much of
1452
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:47.199
their offense. And the Bills have two of those guys.
1453
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:50.279
But yeah, my answer would be Kincaid and then Shakir
1454
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:55.760
as well. M Nikki saying, I know Gabe is pretty
1455
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:57.600
banged up. He dislocated his shoulder and I guess he
1456
01:10:57.640 --> 01:10:59.680
had a limp. Yeah, the Jags are hurting between the
1457
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.560
Miami game and the Browns game, which is also another
1458
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:06.319
unfortunate piece. Carl says, what do you know about kickers
1459
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:10.840
andres Carlson and Cade York. I don't know much about Carlson,
1460
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:17.039
and if I am correct, I believe Cad.
1461
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.119
York is.
1462
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:25.239
The kicker that was playing for Bum Bum Bum. Yeah,
1463
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.439
that's I thought the Browns took him early. He's the
1464
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.399
one I was confused my kickers, But yeah, the Browns
1465
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:33.119
took him in round four in twenty twenty two, and
1466
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:35.800
he's been a Journeyman, Brown's in twenty twenty two, Titans
1467
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:39.640
and Giants in twenty twenty three, Brown's again in twenty
1468
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:42.560
twenty four, and the Commanders in twenty twenty four. The
1469
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:47.159
Titans and the second Brown stint were either offseason and
1470
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:53.119
or practice squad memberships only. What I've my concern is
1471
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:56.800
less with who the kickers are specifically, and more so
1472
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:01.039
that they just brought in kickers. And I know that
1473
01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:04.600
Tyler bass miss in Miami was ugly. It was not tipped,
1474
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:07.159
that was just a straight up shank and it was horrible.
1475
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:12.039
Just trying out kickers in general I find worrisome because
1476
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:13.640
that means they're actually going through with it, and the
1477
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:16.600
fact that it was reported. I think it also is
1478
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:20.119
a bit not great because I think part of Tyler
1479
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:23.279
Bass's struggles come from confidence, and you're not helping his
1480
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:27.439
confidence necessarily by making it known that you're trying out
1481
01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:30.399
other kickers. So I think just the action of trying
1482
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.079
out kickers is more important than who the kickers actually are.
1483
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:35.159
But if you're a kicker right now at this point
1484
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:37.680
and you're a free agent and you're hitting tryouts, it's
1485
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:39.560
probably not a good sign. I know, dudes like Robbie
1486
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:42.439
Gold have been money for teams, you know, with what
1487
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:44.279
he did with the Bears and Niners. I remember the
1488
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:45.640
big thing with the Bears. I think he was like
1489
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:49.319
working for doing construction. He was like doing. He was
1490
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:51.920
laying shingle and doing like roofing jobs, and then the
1491
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.159
Bears called him and he ended up becoming this sweet kicker.
1492
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.720
So you can get diamonds in the rough in positions
1493
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:59.840
in general, but especially a kicker. But my thought here
1494
01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:02.199
is less about the individual kickers and more about the
1495
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:06.399
process itself and the actual action of trying trying them
1496
01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:10.399
out last. You had a similar question you and Karl
1497
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:12.199
arn Locks up with your thoughts. There another question of
1498
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:13.880
Carl saying, do you think there's a chance for Aron
1499
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.720
Johnson playing against the Jags where we see him in
1500
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.119
week four, week five? I truly don't know. I have
1501
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:23.119
to monitor his injury status. I'm not counting on him
1502
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.560
anytime soon. And maybe it's just the pessimist that's in me,
1503
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:29.000
But when he hurt his arm in week one and
1504
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.359
they were immediately doing like grip strength stuff with him
1505
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:33.680
on the side and he was shaking it out, that
1506
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:36.279
makes me worry that makes me think it's something bone
1507
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:38.520
related and something that isn't gonna heal right away.
1508
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:38.600
Now.
1509
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.439
They didn't put him on the IR which means it's
1510
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:43.800
possible that he can return at any point. But I
1511
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:51.079
just think with where where the Jags offense is right now,
1512
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:53.720
I don't want to sell anybody short. And like I mentioned,
1513
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.399
I am not overlooking this matchup. I'm not putting Taron
1514
01:13:57.479 --> 01:13:59.720
Johnson back in for this game. I am letting him
1515
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.239
say and do whatever he wants until he's like, nope,
1516
01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:05.239
I'm completely paying free, I have grip strength in my hand.
1517
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.239
I'm all good, send me out there, do whatever. Because
1518
01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:12.000
he plays a position where he's constantly in the fire
1519
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:15.560
zone when it comes to being hit and having to
1520
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.319
hit people and contact, Like, there's not a play where
1521
01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:21.199
he's not getting hit or hitting someone, so you need
1522
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:23.359
him at one hundred percent. I'm not bringing him back
1523
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.319
until he gets to that spot. I don't know when
1524
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:27.880
that will be, so I don't think he plays against
1525
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:30.119
the Jag Well. We could see him down the road,
1526
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:32.159
especially with how again the schedule starts to ramp up
1527
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.680
with Houston and not necessarily disorder, but Houston and Baltimore
1528
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:38.960
and the Jets and that schedule going forward, so you
1529
01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:41.439
could potentially see him in the coming weeks, But just
1530
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:43.520
him having to worry about that grip strength makes me
1531
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.239
think it's something that's a little more severe than just
1532
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:53.439
a one or two week thing. Good gosh question here,
1533
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:55.680
with more time having passed and hopefully him getting healthier
1534
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:57.159
within that time, this is a good question. Do you
1535
01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.319
think more snaps and creative youse of Curtis Samuel could
1536
01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.720
show up in this game? I have the exact same question.
1537
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.800
I don't know how healthy he is toe injuries. Foot
1538
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.600
injuries in general are hard to heal, especially the type
1539
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:11.600
of toe injury that he had. You really can't rest
1540
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:14.880
it unless you don't do anything, So just by playing,
1541
01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:19.800
you're not allowing yourself to really heal. I don't know
1542
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:21.359
if he's ever really going to be one hundred percent
1543
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.039
or fully effective based on him continuing to play and
1544
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:28.800
getting some symbols of a workload. I have this exact question.
1545
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:30.399
So I think I brought this question up because I think, well,
1546
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:31.720
one because he asked, But two, I think it's funny
1547
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:34.399
because I have this exact thought, like I'm hoping, okay,
1548
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:37.239
his snapshare hasn't been crazy. The workload and usage hasn't
1549
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.159
been crazy. When do we start to see more snaps
1550
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:42.520
and more use Because he was one of the biggest
1551
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:45.720
chess pieces for me in training camp and one of
1552
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.039
my biggest notes and takeaways with how they were using him.
1553
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:50.880
They were constantly sending him and all different kinds of motion,
1554
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:54.239
jet motion, return motion. He was lining up in the backfield.
1555
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:55.960
They would line him up in the backfield and send
1556
01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.039
him out on tear motion. They were just lining him
1557
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:01.359
up everywhere and using him as this mismatch creator and
1558
01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:04.880
using him to create horizontal leverage and being able to
1559
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.479
attack space. And I think that's still the vision for him.
1560
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:10.359
It's just a matter of how healthy can he be.
1561
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:13.399
But I have the exact same question. I have the
1562
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:19.039
exact same question. Nicky says, the Jags planning cover two
1563
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.560
or a lot of three and one. So far they
1564
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:23.960
played a bunch of one, especially Week one against Miami,
1565
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:27.119
And is the other defensive end playing any good not
1566
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:29.840
Josh Heinzellen. I think Trayvon Walker is still a good dude.
1567
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.079
I know he hasn't lived up to the number one
1568
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:35.279
overall pick that he was a couple of seasons ago.
1569
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:38.680
But speed, power, physical, plays the run. He wants to
1570
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.039
run through your chest and run through your face. He's
1571
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.000
not the most technical, not the biggest pass rush plan
1572
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:46.520
type of dude, but he plays the run. He's physical,
1573
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:49.479
he's fast, he's athletic. I think he can give He
1574
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:51.960
can test Spencer Brown's anchor a lot in this game.
1575
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.640
You give him a known passing down in situation and distance.
1576
01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:56.720
You give him a known third and eight or third
1577
01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.239
and seven or whatever, and give him a wide alignment
1578
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:01.800
and let him just play the rush angle, set line
1579
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:05.439
game and attack through Spencer Brown's chest, and I think
1580
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:07.239
you could potentially have a path of success if you
1581
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:13.600
are Ravon Walker. Carl says, well, Cam, Dorian and Baling
1582
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.199
continue to play at a high level, or will they
1583
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:17.960
become a liability. I think the more balean inspector plays,
1584
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:22.239
the better he'll get. Same thing for Dorian Williams Cam Lewis.
1585
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:23.760
I think he is what he is. I don't think
1586
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:25.680
Cam's going to be a liability. I don't think he's
1587
01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:28.600
a plus matchup, but I don't think he's a liability
1588
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.279
with what he can do against the past, with what
1589
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:32.319
he's been able to do against the run. I think
1590
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:38.479
he'll be fine. Dorian Man, I really think if Dorian
1591
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:40.760
and Balen were gonna be a liability, I really thought
1592
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:42.720
it would have happened in that Miami game, with how
1593
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:46.079
they're able to stress you at the second level and
1594
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:50.039
everything they do to stress you horizontally. If it was
1595
01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:52.279
going to show up from a processing standpoint and from
1596
01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:54.640
a liability standpoint, it would have been against Miami. Now.
1597
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.760
The only caveat with that, especially if I'm playing Devil's
1598
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.520
Advocate here is the Bills under Sean MC do a
1599
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:06.479
great job of understanding who in what Miami is and
1600
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:10.119
how to impact them. So maybe that history mitigated the
1601
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:15.359
liability potential for that second level. I don't think they're
1602
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:18.800
going to be completely deficient free or liability free at
1603
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:22.239
the second level, but I think the more Specter and
1604
01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:26.239
Dorian continue to play, the less likely it is that
1605
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.000
they are going to be a liability, because the biggest
1606
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:29.920
thing they need is time on task and the ability
1607
01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:34.920
to develop, along with just kind of understanding the game
1608
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.840
a little bit more, and we'll just see what their
1609
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:40.359
development trajectories and timelines are at. I don't think Cam
1610
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:42.039
is ever going to be a liability. I think out
1611
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:45.159
of those three, Dorian and Balin have the highest chance.
1612
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.520
But in theory, the more they play, the less that
1613
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.560
should happen. You just don't want to have to play
1614
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.760
that game unless you absolutely have to, and the Bills
1615
01:18:52.760 --> 01:19:02.880
have to. What off Spin says, so that Jets upgrade
1616
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.880
their QB and trade for Sam Darnold or Gino Smith,
1617
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:10.319
that's a good comment. That's a that's a that's that's
1618
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:16.319
mad petty. That's mad petty. Josh comes in and says,
1619
01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:19.039
what position group, do you still have question marks about
1620
01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:22.520
being either injury or play and do you think they
1621
01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:29.720
prove something this game? Hmmm, good question. I I do
1622
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:34.079
still have questions about the threat that the receiving the
1623
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:38.720
receivers have on this team overall, Aside from Shakir, I
1624
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:40.279
like what Curtis Samuel does, but I don't think he's
1625
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:41.920
one hundred percent. I also don't think he's like an
1626
01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:45.000
every down, high volume snapshare type of dude, high volume
1627
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:49.000
target guy. So I just have questions on what MATC.
1628
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.399
Collins can truly be from an upside standpoint, and I
1629
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:53.960
have questions on what Kean Coleman can be from a
1630
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.880
separation and refinement standpoint, which I don't think is crazy.
1631
01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.800
This year for me was all about seeing for ke
1632
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:03.520
Home and at least what his timeline was looking like
1633
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:09.399
in terms of refinement precision, starting to add more of
1634
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:12.079
that to his game at an NFL level. Having to
1635
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:14.239
learn that on the fly in the NFL is hard.
1636
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:18.079
How much would he play into the physical and athleticism aspect,
1637
01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.119
or how much would he be able to play into
1638
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.920
more understanding leverage, having a feel for space, reading coverage,
1639
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:25.880
being able to separate in a variety of forms that
1640
01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.039
isn't just at the catch point with size and frame
1641
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:30.600
and athleticism. So I do still have some question marks
1642
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.640
about the receiving room, and I don't think they've been tested,
1643
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:35.960
which is part of the reason why it was one
1644
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:37.520
of my points in this game and why I still
1645
01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:41.319
have questions because the Bills been able to run the
1646
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.600
ball successfully, and as long as the Bills can continue
1647
01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:45.279
to run the ball successfully, we don't have to answer
1648
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:49.760
that question about the wide receivers. So that's a position
1649
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:53.880
I have questioned about, and I still do. It's weird,
1650
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:55.239
I might talk about both sides of my mouth here.
1651
01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:57.920
I do have some questions A safety still, Rap and
1652
01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.920
Hamlet have been fine. They're responsible, they know what they're
1653
01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:04.760
doing from a coverage standpoint and who they want to be.
1654
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:11.520
But for me, I I just I just think because
1655
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:15.319
they're athleticism is limited and that upside is kind of
1656
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.720
limited there. I just do have some questions about that
1657
01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:20.880
spot and do we continue to see that safety grouping
1658
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.079
all year? Does Mike Edwards pop in at any point?
1659
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:26.600
Just call Bishop pop in at any point? So safety
1660
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:28.159
is like a weird one because I'm comfortable with it
1661
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:30.079
and I like it, but I also have questions about it,
1662
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.239
and linebacker I think is one for me as well
1663
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:37.760
as as I answered that question earlier about potential liability,
1664
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.920
I just I'm just not still holistically confident in Dorian
1665
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.840
Williams or even specter. He's had less time on task
1666
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:49.399
and less less snaps, but I just still want worry
1667
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:52.520
about Dorian Williams is processing and kind of him being
1668
01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:54.239
put into a bind. I think if a team can
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01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.800
run the ball on the bills and then work in
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01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.000
play action, Dorian can get put into hell quickly because
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01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.000
of having to process the run to pass and then
1672
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:05.079
figuring out where to go from there being manipulated or
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01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:08.760
misled by eye candy and presentation and window dressing. But
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01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.279
these are all minor. Like this is me really just
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01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:15.439
answering your question and nitpicking. I really feel fine about
1676
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.119
this team in a lot of areas. I don't feel
1677
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.199
great in a lot of positions, but I feel fine
1678
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:24.439
holistically across the team, aside from having some specific like
1679
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:31.920
individual player questions. That was a good one. Mmmm oh,
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01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:34.680
Luke says, where do you rank the defenses and totality
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01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:36.520
between the Dolphins, Jags, and Carts.
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01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:40.439
Oh.
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01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:42.760
I really like what the Cardinals do. They just don't
1684
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:49.680
have the talent. I would say when everybody's healthy, the
1685
01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:58.159
Jags are first, then the Dolphins, then the Cardinals. Like
1686
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:00.319
we talked about, I like some of the individual player
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01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:02.560
pieces the Jags have, and I like their defensive coordinator
1688
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:05.760
Ryan Nielsen and how he meshes with their personnel. I
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01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:08.079
think the Dolphins have some good talent on that side
1690
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:09.800
of the ball, and I like some of the things
1691
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:12.079
that Anthony Weaver is doing, their defensive coordinator who came
1692
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:13.880
over from Baltimore. You just got to give him the
1693
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:15.680
ability to kind of gel a little bit and work
1694
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:18.920
some things. The Cardinals, I think they're really fun schematically
1695
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:20.960
and from a creative standpoint, they just don't think they
1696
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:23.760
have the horses, especially upfront, like their light upfront. They
1697
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.079
don't have a ton of depth or impact dudes upfront,
1698
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:28.399
and I think that kind of limits their upside side
1699
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:33.800
Go Jags Dolphins cards, Adrian says, do we see more
1700
01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:36.079
mbs since the Jags like to play cover one, we
1701
01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:37.840
might We might see the ability to kind of threaten
1702
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:40.720
the field or threaten the field vertically with mvs, which
1703
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:42.439
we've seen it. He's gotten open a bit, Josh just
1704
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:46.439
hasn't been able to connect with him. I do think
1705
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:49.520
if the Jags are gonna play more Cover one, I
1706
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:51.640
think we just see more play action and motion to
1707
01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:54.640
manipulate the man coverage, and then we see Brady scheming
1708
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:56.720
some things up. So we could see more MBS to
1709
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.319
threaten vertically and win some one on ones, especially because
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01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.600
they're down on the back end in terms of health
1711
01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:05.880
and from an injury standpoint with their guys. Campbell going
1712
01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:08.920
down really sucks for them and is super unfortunate with
1713
01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:10.720
how good he is and what he is and how
1714
01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:13.279
athletic he is. But yeah, you could see some more mvs.
1715
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:20.119
In this game. Mm yeah, Nikki said, I meant the
1716
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:22.399
other tight defensive and Trayvon Walker. How has he been looking?
1717
01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:25.039
Is he going to be an issue? Am I crazy?
1718
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:27.039
I answered this? I talked about him speed to power,
1719
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:28.920
he can go through Spencer Brown's chest? What he is
1720
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:33.760
playing that? Am I crazy? Am I hallucinating? Are you?
1721
01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:36.319
Are you trolling me? I know I answered this. I
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01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:38.479
think I did. If I didn't tell me, or if
1723
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:40.479
you didn't hear it, or somebody tell me. I talked
1724
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:44.159
about Trayvon Walker with regard to Nicky's question earlier, because
1725
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.560
I feel like I feel like crazy.
1726
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:49.439
Mm hmmmmmmmmmmm.
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01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.520
Where's one? Oh? I like this one from searching for Oldies?
1728
01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:58.800
So far? What do you think of? Okay? So Spence
1729
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:01.000
that way, there's another Trayvon work. Okay? So I did
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01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:01.359
answer that?
1731
01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:01.640
All right?
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01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:01.800
Cool?
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01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.279
So I'm not crazy. Search of for Oldie says so far?
1734
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:08.199
What do you think of Brady's scheme? I'm loving it? No,
1735
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:10.800
I said Trayvon Walker. I said Walker a bunch. I'm
1736
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:14.439
pretty sure well I was talking about Trayvon Walker. I know,
1737
01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:17.439
I said Trayvon Walker. I'm good. I'm going on the
1738
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:19.119
rabbit hole on this, but I can't. I can't, I can't.
1739
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:22.439
I gotta. I gotta stay, I gotta stay. Oh no, yeah,
1740
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:25.159
I don't know so far. What do you think of
1741
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:28.279
Brady's scheme. I'm loving it. I like it. I I
1742
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:33.199
think so. The Bills have moved into reducing some of
1743
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:35.399
their formational with last year. They were one of the
1744
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:39.359
heaviest spread teams in the league last year towards top
1745
01:25:39.399 --> 01:25:42.159
of the league, second widest formational with This year, they've
1746
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:44.439
moved towards middle of the league, which is nice to see.
1747
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:47.920
I just like him providing easy buttons for Alan. That
1748
01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:51.840
opening touchdown on slither or that running back mess traffic
1749
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:54.039
concept to cook against the Dolphins is really nice. That's
1750
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:56.720
a natural easy button. You get two motion man indicators
1751
01:25:56.760 --> 01:25:59.479
pre snap to help Alan identify the coverage. You get
1752
01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.439
good execution. I like him leaning into the run and
1753
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:05.479
pressing the run buttons as much as he can, varying
1754
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:07.760
the run scheme. I like that the mid zone run
1755
01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:12.159
wasn't working against Miami, so we pivoted to tackle, wrap
1756
01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:15.840
and duo and started working in more elements there. So
1757
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:18.479
I like him understanding the run game. I like the
1758
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:22.079
buttons He's pushing with the personnel. I'm happy with it.
1759
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.680
I think he based on the personnel we saw this
1760
01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:29.359
offseason and then what we saw in camp. I think
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01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:34.479
he's very much understanding where offensive football is moving towards
1762
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.760
in today's NFL. And I think the Bills have built
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01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:40.279
themselves for that. And he is pressing the buttons and
1764
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:42.840
pulling the levers that you need to press and pull
1765
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:46.880
in order to be successful in today's NFL. So give
1766
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:50.600
me some more play action. Keep using the motion, keep
1767
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.159
preting that motion, keep leaning into the diversity in the
1768
01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:58.039
run game, and using your personnel groupings and your formational
1769
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:00.640
advantages in terms of being a to access more of
1770
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:02.439
the menu without having to turn the page and put
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01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:05.439
the defense into a bind. I like having him having
1772
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:09.199
twelve personnel and going condensed and then going three by
1773
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.960
two empty and really putting defenses into hell. I think
1774
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:14.520
it's fun. I think he's doing things good for now.
1775
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:18.359
We'll see, we'll see. The big test for Brady will
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01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:20.960
really be kind of similar what we saw for Ken Dorsey,
1777
01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:23.600
where the Bill started out hot in Dorsey's first year,
1778
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.279
and then as the season went on, you know, you've
1779
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:30.319
got more tape available the sample size has increased. Teams
1780
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:32.760
were able to start to put a book together on you.
1781
01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:36.760
Can you adjust to that book when teams start to CounterPunch,
1782
01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.479
do you have a counter punch for their CounterPunch? So
1783
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:41.960
we'll see as that starts to go forward again. This
1784
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:44.239
is now fully Joe Brady's offense. I'm not counting too
1785
01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:46.000
much of what we saw last year, although some of
1786
01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.199
it is relevant, and we've seen some of it play
1787
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:50.279
out so far in these first two weeks, but small
1788
01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:55.319
sample size, and I'm excited to kind of see what
1789
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.479
he is going forward and how he continues to evolve
1790
01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:02.560
and develop. Appreciate everybody in the chat answer me on
1791
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:04.319
the Trayvon Walker thing. Okay, I want to make sure
1792
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:06.079
I wasn't crazy crazy, think you very much, Thank you
1793
01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:09.199
very much. Ralph saying, is Morre's part of the Jags
1794
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:13.119
protection problems? I think it comes down to the same
1795
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:16.479
thing that you saw in Buffalo, where at times he's
1796
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:19.920
just you know, his size, being a smaller guy. If
1797
01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:23.119
he's not good with his positioning and getting on guys early,
1798
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:25.000
he can get driven back and knocked into the QB
1799
01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:27.359
a little bit. I think what Jordan pointed out was
1800
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:30.359
really interesting. Like one of Morse's strengths here with the
1801
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:33.399
Bills was all the pre snap communication and front identification
1802
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:36.159
that helped the past protection. The fact that that's a
1803
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:38.760
struggle right now for the Jags and for Morse, I
1804
01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:41.960
think is very interesting to note. So I would say
1805
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:44.640
he's part of the Jags protection problems. I don't think
1806
01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:46.399
he's the source point. I think a lot of his
1807
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:51.439
schematic I don't know if it's schematic because of what
1808
01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:54.720
they're being coached to do, or if it's because of
1809
01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:59.439
adjustments and communication pre snap based on fronts that they're
1810
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:03.319
seeing in game. That's something I don't know. But it's
1811
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:07.199
more schematic than it is individual talent. I'll say that
1812
01:29:07.279 --> 01:29:08.920
on the line. And when it comes to being a
1813
01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:11.159
schematic issue, the center is always going to be a
1814
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:13.159
part of it. And then especially even more so again
1815
01:29:13.479 --> 01:29:15.800
more socise when he gets matched up on bigger dudes,
1816
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:17.319
they can kind of barrow him and kind of knock
1817
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:19.319
him back into the QB a little bit. Oh, we
1818
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:21.760
got a super chat, so I gotta stop. Thank you
1819
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:24.119
very much Nathan for being here and for your super chat.
1820
01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:29.279
And I don't know if did you have a question
1821
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:30.479
to go along with this or did you want to
1822
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:31.680
just give a super chat, because if you just want
1823
01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:33.039
to give a super chat, I'm glad we take it,
1824
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:35.479
and I greatly appreciate you. Oh and then Nathan also
1825
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:37.880
have a comment here saying the Bills defense has been strong,
1826
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:41.399
Alan is showing leadership and team chemistry is solid. Cover
1827
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:43.520
one podcast gives deep analysis of great insights. Thank you
1828
01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:45.920
very much for the kind words and for the super chat.
1829
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.520
I appreciate you being here, the nice words, and uh,
1830
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:52.560
the super chat. Thank you very much. All Right, I
1831
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:54.319
don't know if you're being sarcastic or now, but yeah,
1832
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:56.399
I know I talked about him, I talked about Okay,
1833
01:29:56.399 --> 01:30:03.359
I'm just gonna leave it, but I appreciate you. Oh
1834
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:07.359
RJ saying I love the Joe Brady easy buttons motion
1835
01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:09.479
is so refreshing. Now we just need that play action.
1836
01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:11.119
I saw this from multiple people here talking about the
1837
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:13.199
play action and the play action. Yeah, that would be nice.
1838
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:15.319
I would like that element. I just think it's the natural.
1839
01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:19.399
I always have to say this because somebody's always ready
1840
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:21.279
to fire it out of the holester. You don't need
1841
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:23.439
a good running game to have good play action. But
1842
01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:25.279
if you have a good running game, it makes your
1843
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:27.800
play action game that much better. And the Bills do
1844
01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:30.840
have a good running game. So give me more play action,
1845
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:34.840
give me more bootlegs, give me Josh Allen on the move,
1846
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:38.079
move the pocket, give me some nakeds and some front
1847
01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:44.399
side stuff. I'm excited for again, what the layering and
1848
01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:50.199
building of this offense can be under Joe Brady. I
1849
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:51.800
like a lot of the pieces. I see some more
1850
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:55.159
questions coming in some thoughts. We're going to continue to
1851
01:30:55.359 --> 01:31:00.840
get into those. But I wanted to pull up this piece.
1852
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:04.840
I thought it was an interesting conversation to have considering
1853
01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:09.319
the Bills are involved in it. I want to bring
1854
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:12.720
this up from our partners over there at us SO
1855
01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:15.520
undefeated teams after Week two. There are nine of them,
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01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:19.000
the Bills, the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Steelers, the Texans,
1857
01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:23.399
the Seahawks, the Vikings, the Saints, and the Buccaneers. And
1858
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:25.479
they were talking about this earlier today in terms of
1859
01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:30.000
which one of these teams are the most surprising. I
1860
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:32.359
kind of wanted to say Chargers, but their schedule has
1861
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:34.680
been easy to start, so it's not too crazy. I'm
1862
01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:36.720
gonna go with the Steelers. I really thought they'd lose
1863
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:39.960
early on to the Falcons, and the Steelers also tie
1864
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.359
into that Bills aspect. I think the Steelers will start
1865
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:46.000
to fade a little bit as the season goes along,
1866
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:48.079
But the Steelers sitting there at two to oh, and
1867
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:50.119
I think the Vikings are extremely surprising at two and
1868
01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:53.039
oh as well. I know Deebo got banged up against
1869
01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:55.359
Minnesota in the game, but and I know there's no
1870
01:31:55.479 --> 01:31:58.079
Christian McCaffrey folks that got banged up a little bit.
1871
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:00.560
But Jefferson also got banged up. I thought would have
1872
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.319
lost to San Francisco last week, and we were sitting
1873
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:05.439
there seeing him at one and one. New Orleans isn't
1874
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:07.640
crazy surprising to me, just because I think they're a
1875
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:09.279
better team than they get credit for. And I don't
1876
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:13.479
holistically believe in Dallas. But yeah, the I also really
1877
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:16.600
like Tampa this year offensively and defensively. I like a
1878
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:18.560
lot of these teams. I like Seattle, I like Houston,
1879
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:20.239
I like the Saints, I like the Bucks. I'm very
1880
01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:24.560
surprised at Archie says, I'm so sick of the Vikings
1881
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.199
being a below average team that somehow always wins. I
1882
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:29.680
don't know how they do it man and their defense
1883
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:33.039
is super fun with all the blitzing and man coverage
1884
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:35.399
they play and what they do with Martellis and all
1885
01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:39.079
the safety looks and then having green Heerd coming off
1886
01:32:39.079 --> 01:32:41.680
of one side and Dallas Turner on the other. Yet
1887
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:47.880
it's a fun it's a fun grouping that they've got there. Yeah,
1888
01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:49.920
but I didn't think they'd beat San Francisco. I thought
1889
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:51.760
they'd be one and one at this point, and I
1890
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:54.960
thought Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh beating Denver in week two isn't anything crazy,
1891
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:56.560
But I thought they lose week one of the Falcons.
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01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:58.880
But the Falcons are still trying to feel themselves out
1893
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a little bit. So here looking at the undefeated teams
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after week two, Yeah, I am surprised at Pittsburgh, and
1895
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I'm very surprised with Minnesota just being there too, and
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oh and beating the San Francisco forty nine ers, which
1897
01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:15.479
again was still a wild win. Sam Darnold, I don't know,
1898
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:17.760
kind of finally tapping into who he was supposed to
1899
01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:20.239
be all those years ago. So really cool to see
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him kind of start to develop a little bit. And
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looking at this graphic. I just can't believe Minnesota beat
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San Francisco and I know it's early. I also saw.
1923
01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:24.119
I think they said it during the game too. I
1924
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think San Francisco has lost their last seven trips to Minnesota.
1925
01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.520
Granted the teams have been different, there's not much carryover
1926
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:33.600
in consistency, but yeah, that was a surprising one considering
1927
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:37.199
the Niners of the Niners and Darnold and Minnesota not
1928
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:40.359
necessarily being real. I'd also like the Vikings to lose
1929
01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:44.319
because that second round pick, I want it to be
1930
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:46.439
as high as possible, So I'd love them to just
1931
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:49.359
lose away so that second round pick that the Bills
1932
01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:51.399
got from Minnesota can be like a top forty or
1933
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:53.359
a top thirty five pick. That would be really nice.
1934
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:55.920
But yeah, really interesting to see where they're at at
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01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:59.359
this point. All right, let's continue on the conversation piece.
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We got the super from Josh. Thank you very much
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for being here. Josh, thank you for the super chat.
1938
01:35:03.079 --> 01:35:05.840
The question, oh, Josh says, what wide receiver should the
1939
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:12.279
Bills trade for? Or sign Ooh, I'm gonna shoot. I'm
1940
01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:14.520
gonna shoot for the stars and say, if the Bills
1941
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:17.680
are going to trade for a wide receiver, figure out
1942
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:19.560
a way to make the money work. I don't care.
1943
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:22.159
Go get Devontae Adams. I know it's pie in the sky,
1944
01:35:22.319 --> 01:35:23.920
Like it's so hard to make that work, if it
1945
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:26.199
can even work. I haven't even looked at his numbers
1946
01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:29.479
financially from a contract standpoint, trying to figure out how
1947
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:33.880
it could work. But that would be that would be it, Like,
1948
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:36.880
don't try to grab I would have said Noah Brown
1949
01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:39.720
if he was still a free agent. But at this point,
1950
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:42.079
I'm gonna go. I'm going for the stars and I'm
1951
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:44.800
shooting for the moon. Go get DeVante Adams, Go get
1952
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:46.800
who He's still one of the best receivers in the league.
1953
01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:48.479
People just don't know about it because Vegas it is
1954
01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:51.359
not good. But maybe he doesn't want to go anywhere
1955
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:53.399
now because they're one and one, and maybe there's some
1956
01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:55.359
hope and belief there for the Raiders. But yeah, go
1957
01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:58.239
get DeVante Adams. Go shoot for the stars and get them.
1958
01:35:59.319 --> 01:36:04.600
Mm hmm, Carl saying, well, Daikwon Jones and Ed Oliver
1959
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:06.720
versus the Jags interior oline be a key match for
1960
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:10.319
this game. It will be, but I just expect them
1961
01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:12.880
to win it. I think highly of Ed Oliver and
1962
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:16.399
Dakwon Jones. I think they can cause chaos inside. It's
1963
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:17.880
going to be important because you need to control the
1964
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:20.439
interior of the pocket, and getting pressure on Lawrence straight
1965
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:22.880
up the gut and quick is a nice way to
1966
01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:25.000
really affect his game. So I think it's going to
1967
01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:27.520
be a key matchup in really every week, but this
1968
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.960
one too, especially considering the Jags O line struggles. Yeah,
1969
01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:34.079
I think that's fair, Josh says, going back to your thought,
1970
01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:36.920
which team on the upcoming schedule do you think challenges
1971
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:39.439
the Bills and Josh to win through the air with
1972
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:43.279
our wide receivers. Baltimore, I think we'll do that. I
1973
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:46.000
know they're owing two and everybody's kind of laughing, and
1974
01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:47.920
plus Bill's fans want to dunk on the mar every
1975
01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:49.680
chance they get because they're mad that he won the MVP.
1976
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:53.960
But I think Houston has the potential of Houston. I
1977
01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.479
think Baltimore has the potential to do that with their front.
1978
01:36:56.520 --> 01:36:58.760
I think they can mitigate the run. They've got athleticism
1979
01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:00.680
at the second level. I think they can force Allen
1980
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.079
to live through the air. I think the Jets can
1981
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:05.560
do a similar thing as well, if we're just talking
1982
01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:08.439
immediately with their front. I know they got gouged a
1983
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:10.960
bit by the Niners, but I still think they have
1984
01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.640
the ability to be sound defensively and be tougher against
1985
01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:15.560
the run, and then with their corners on the outside,
1986
01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:17.760
I mean, man, you can really load up the box
1987
01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:19.840
and just be like okay, try and beat Sauce and
1988
01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:22.119
Carter and DJ Reid and go from there. So I
1989
01:37:22.119 --> 01:37:25.399
think it starts with the Ravens heads into the Jets,
1990
01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:27.319
and I think the Texans are a sneaky one as well.
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01:37:27.319 --> 01:37:30.000
I think Derek Stingley now is showing people that when
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01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:32.600
he's healthy he can be in that top tier conversation
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with Sauce and certain is the best corners in the NFL.
1994
01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:38.359
So I think Houston has the ability, and then they're
1995
01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:43.119
front with what Hunter is doing and just how they
1996
01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:46.039
attack and how coordinated they are. I think they could
1997
01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:48.680
potentially that they're kind of third, I think, behind Baltimore
1998
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:51.520
in the Jets respectively, but most would be my thoughts
1999
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:56.079
there Cameron saying, do you think Alam can step up
2000
01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:57.800
this year if an injury happens to one of our
2001
01:37:57.800 --> 01:37:59.920
top two? I know there was optimism at camp. Yes,
2002
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:02.439
I think very highly of Christian Benford and Rasul Douglas.
2003
01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:06.159
So I don't want to just be like, oh yeah, easily,
2004
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:09.880
and this isn't again to knock Kyrie Elam. It's more
2005
01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:13.760
because I think Christian Benford and Rasul Douglas are very good.
2006
01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:15.560
I think people are starting to come around more to
2007
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.720
how good Christian Benford is. I've been talking about him
2008
01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:20.279
all off season. Eric and I talked about him in
2009
01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:21.800
the film room as being one of the most under
2010
01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:24.199
the radar players of the Bills this year. Christian Benford
2011
01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:29.279
is still trending upwards. He's very good. Douglas is very good,
2012
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:31.720
So I don't think it's easy to fill their shoes
2013
01:38:32.359 --> 01:38:35.079
if an injury happens to one of them. But I
2014
01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:37.720
do have faith in Kyrie. I think he's made improvements
2015
01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:39.640
versus where he was the first couple of years. Think
2016
01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:41.880
he's playing with more confidence. I think he's playing the
2017
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:43.600
run better and you're starting to see more of that
2018
01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:46.960
athleticism and some of the physical traits and tools that
2019
01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:49.720
he has start to show up more regularly. So yes,
2020
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:52.840
if an injury happens, I think that he can step up.
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01:38:52.920 --> 01:38:54.600
I don't want it to happen because I love the
2022
01:38:54.640 --> 01:38:57.359
starting too with Benford and Douglas, but I do think
2023
01:38:57.359 --> 01:38:59.159
he can step up and mitigate some things if that
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01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:01.319
were to happen. I love this comment here from Josh saying,
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don't forget to drop likes everyone, Yes, yes, yes, please
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and thank you. If you have not already and you
2027
01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:07.319
are willing and able, please drop a ke on this video.
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It's greatly appreciative, appreciated by myself on the entire team.
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It goes a long way towards telling us the track
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and trend in front of more eyes and ears. Ah yeah,
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that's the stat Nicki said at the Niners being zero
2032
01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:22.000
to eight in Minnesota. Crazy stat. Yeah, nuts nuts nuts
2033
01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:28.079
nuts bum bum Nicki saying do we extend Douglas? Something
2034
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:29.920
changed in the defense when we got him. I thought
2035
01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:31.239
if they were going to extend him, they would have
2036
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.840
done it. This past offseason they restructured his contract and
2037
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:36.359
moved some of the money into void years the next
2038
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:39.039
couple That doesn't mean they can't resign him, but the
2039
01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:42.720
restructuring was interesting. I thought he would have been a
2040
01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:46.079
surefire extension candidate given how well he played to your point,
2041
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:48.640
like how the defense changed once he was brought in.
2042
01:39:48.680 --> 01:39:50.840
He was a legitimate corner one from the moment he
2043
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:52.800
stepped on the field, and I still think. I know
2044
01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:54.760
there were a ton of injuries in that game against
2045
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:56.920
Kansas City in the playoffs, but he was playing on
2046
01:39:56.920 --> 01:39:58.760
one leg. Even if he was out there healthy, I
2047
01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:01.000
think he would have made a big difference for a
2048
01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.359
lot of other guys. Benford included, Bernard included, I don't
2049
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:05.720
even want to go down that rabbit hole, but yeah,
2050
01:40:06.279 --> 01:40:08.640
I thought he would have been an extension candidate this offseason.
2051
01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:10.479
I thought he was going to get an extension. I
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01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:15.800
lobbied for it. Them doing the restructure and moving money
2053
01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:18.119
forward for void years instead of doing the straight up
2054
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:22.399
extension is interesting, and then elim producing or starting to
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01:40:22.399 --> 01:40:25.880
show more positive signs is also interesting. I don't think
2056
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:28.640
it's a guarantee. I would very much do it. I
2057
01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:32.560
think he's smart, he's savvy, he's a leader, he's a
2058
01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:35.760
good player. He fits what you need from the corner
2059
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:37.600
spot in today's NFL with being able to play the
2060
01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.560
pass but also being able to play the run and
2061
01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:41.600
set the edge and be a forced player and also
2062
01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:44.000
come up and make tackles. I'd like to see him extended,
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01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:48.000
even if it's for one or two years, but yeah,
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01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:50.720
I would like to see it. I just don't know
2065
01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:53.600
if it happens. Them restructuring this offseason instead of going
2066
01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:55.800
for the extension when you could have, you could have
2067
01:40:55.880 --> 01:40:58.399
had similar outcomes with the extension as you did with
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01:40:58.439 --> 01:41:02.359
the restructure. Them opting for the restructure instead of the extension,
2069
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:06.760
I thought was interesting. Appreciate you, Lisa G saying about
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01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:08.680
Trey Walker. I covered it with the guest and afterwards too.
2071
01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:08.960
Thank you.
2072
01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:14.079
I want to make sure I'm not crazy. Drew saying
2073
01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:16.359
if we blitz Lawrence to get pressure, we could lose.
2074
01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:19.159
He's good at beating the obvious looks against us. Yeah,
2075
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:21.600
I don't if you can get pressure with four and
2076
01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:25.439
play coverage behind it. I love that. Cagd saying it's
2077
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:28.840
crazy that Benford was a sixth rounder. Absolutely, Jordan says,
2078
01:41:28.920 --> 01:41:32.199
as Tyler Bass on the hot seat. Yeah, just based
2079
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:37.000
off the fact that they brought in kickers. I guess
2080
01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:39.279
they really hated how ugly that miss was in Miami
2081
01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:45.199
last week. It's yeah, a little bit worrisome, A little
2082
01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:49.600
bit worrisome. I yeah, I don't even think you can
2083
01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:52.239
sugarcoat it if you're bringing in competition and trying out
2084
01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:55.239
other dudes at a guy's position. He's got to be
2085
01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:59.399
on the hot seat. Nikki saying they did that with
2086
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:01.479
the Daique with Daikon Jones two with the voy years.
2087
01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:03.760
I could be wrong. I don't remember if they did
2088
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:05.800
void years with Daikon. I thought he was just a
2089
01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:09.640
straight up UFA with no void years, but there could
2090
01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:12.039
have been one. Being done so much with the void
2091
01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:15.680
years now like m MVS, I think has like four
2092
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.039
two or three two hundred and fifty thousand dollars void
2093
01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:20.640
year cap hits for the next like three or four
2094
01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:22.600
years or something like that. Like he's working him into
2095
01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:24.680
everything in order to kind of kick down the road
2096
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:26.880
while they recoup some of the DIGS money and make
2097
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:28.680
up for the Allen money starting to kick in now.
2098
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:33.239
No Spin saying, are we gonna have to pay Allen
2099
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:36.640
sixty plus million year now because of Dak when we
2100
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:39.920
extend SA's restructure him next year? Man, I don't know.
2101
01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:44.880
The quarterback market is so annoying, and not because guys
2102
01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:47.479
don't deserve it, but it just gets reset all the time,
2103
01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:49.840
and then you have to pay them more and more,
2104
01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:51.880
and I think you're gonna see, I don't know how
2105
01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:53.279
much you're gonna have to pay him a year. I
2106
01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:55.159
don't know if that's where it'll swing or if more
2107
01:42:55.199 --> 01:43:00.199
of the conversation shifts into guaranteed money, because it's at
2108
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:02.039
a certain point you got to stem the bleeding a
2109
01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:04.600
little bit from how much you're paying quarterbacks if it
2110
01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:07.600
just if you're if they keep operating at this trend.
2111
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:10.319
Granted the cap goes up every year, but if you
2112
01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:13.520
keep operating at this trend, of and see it's been
2113
01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:15.880
saying I'm sorry, no player deserves sixty million a year,
2114
01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:20.319
I agree. And also it's hard to build a good
2115
01:43:20.319 --> 01:43:23.199
team around a guy that you have to pay that much. Granted,
2116
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.000
if you're paying a guy that much, quarterback is the
2117
01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:30.760
most important position arguably, and if you're paying that guy
2118
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:34.159
that needs, you probably have that guy, so you feel good.
2119
01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:36.039
But I don't know. The Giants paid Daniel Jones all
2120
01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:39.560
that money, and he'd not that guy. I just I
2121
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:41.359
just don't like having to sink so much money into
2122
01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:44.319
a quarterback at some point, and I know they're worth it,
2123
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:46.399
but at some point I think that someone's got to
2124
01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:48.920
stem the bleeding in terms of how much they keep going,
2125
01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:51.680
because it can't just keep being like, Okay, so and
2126
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:53.600
so is at the market and he's getting sixty million year.
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Is the next contract going to get you sixty eight
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or sixty five and then the next one gives you
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seventy two or seventy three. It can't just it can't
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just keep going up and going up. Although again, like
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I said, I know the cap will go up every year.
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At some point that the bleeding's got to stop a
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little bit. And so that way, it's like, Okay, do
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you go with more guaranteed money? Are you trying to
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reduce how much money they get? So you're not going
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with value, You're going with more guaranteed. There's got to
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be some way to stem how much they're going to
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get from a year's perspective, a guaranteed perspective, and an
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average annual value perspective. It's got to stop at some point.
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It's been saying I think forty five MILS should be
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the max. Sure, I just don't think it's just gonna
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It's just hard to build a team. Like, if you're
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paying a quarterback that much, you have to hit on
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draft picks. You have to be getting like plus value
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from draft picks early because you need affordable, effective labor
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throughout the lifespan of that contract. You I mean you
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got to hit some vets and some guys on one year,
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you know, two point five million dollar deals. Who I'll
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perform that contract. You need a lot of draft picks
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to hit. You need day three guys to contribute. You
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need to hit on your day one in a good
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chunk of your day two guys. Yeah, it starts to
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it really just creates a lot of problems. But again,
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it's kind of like a good problem to have if
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you really want to paint in that way, because that
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means you found a franchise quarterback. But yeah, at some point,
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it just it just can't keep going where the next
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contract is more in, the next contract is more, and
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we keep resetting the quarterback market over and over. At
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some point it's got to stop in some way, I think,
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or maybe the cap keeps going up and that means
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quarterback contracts keep going up.
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Bumpa bah?
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Where was Drew said? Wasn't that bass miss against Miami Block?
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I don't think so. I didn't think it was missed live.
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And then I think someone posted something earlier today or
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tonight showing the zooming camera angle, and I think he
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just shanked it, so I don't think it was blocked.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think it was blocked.
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Cameron saying, do you think Cole is going to have
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a red shirt? Ear Hamlin? Listen. It's not the answer
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anybody wants to hear, because Cole Bishop is fun and athletic,
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and people love rookies and want rookies to play. But
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Hamlin and Rapp are effective. They're responsible, they're reliable, they
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do what McDermott asks, and they're better than they get
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credit for. So I could see Cole Bishop just kind
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of chilling as a backup all year and being like
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Safety three or Safety four. Same thing with Mike Edwards.
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I know it's not sexy with Rap and Hamlin, but
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they're effective, and I don't mean that disparagingly. They're just effective.
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Drew said. The MLB instituted a salary cap, and their
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wages are going up every year. MLB doesn't have a
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salary cap. They have a luxury tax penalty. So if
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you pay if your team's salary is over a certain
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amount for a certain period of time, you basically have
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01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:52.399
to pay like a penalty percentage off of that. So
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it's not necessarily a cap. You just have to be
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willing to like eat the penalty if you're going to
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01:46:57.680 --> 01:46:59.960
continue to be over the luxury tax penalty. But it's
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not really like a salary cap. There's no there's no
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thing that says you can only the MAXI amount you
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01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:09.159
can pay? Is this like there is in the NFL
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that doesn't exist in Major League Baseball. There's just the
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luxury tax penalty based in for that. And yeah, O
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Tani did I think grab the biggest contract in history?
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And the Dodgers got creative in terms of how they
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move money out and how they're paying him, Like the
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Dodgers do what every year? I don't know how the
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Dodgers continue to pay everybody with him and Mooki and
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01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:28.920
Freeman and all in glass now and all the money
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that they just have in dudes every year every year.
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It's wild. M M, yeah, no worries. I know. I'm
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01:47:37.119 --> 01:47:39.640
a I'm a Red Sox fan. And they were crushed
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01:47:39.640 --> 01:47:41.520
by the luxury tax for forever and now they're under
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01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:44.880
and they refuse to pay people. It's very weird, very weird,
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01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.960
very weird, very weird. Yeah, baseball is like the last
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01:47:48.439 --> 01:47:51.359
major sport at least in America. Like basketball as a
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01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:54.479
salary cap, hockey as a salary cap, the NFL has
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01:47:54.479 --> 01:47:56.279
a salary cap. Major League baseball is still kind of
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01:47:56.319 --> 01:48:00.600
like soccer in terms of the team that have the
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01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:03.640
most money usually just have the best teams because they
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01:48:03.680 --> 01:48:05.960
can buy whoever they want. Soccer gets wonky, though, depending
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01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:08.560
on what league you're in and what country with financial
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01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.359
fair play rules and what you have to do, that's
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01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:13.520
a whole another beast. But yeah, major League baseball is
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01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:16.079
basically no salary cap, and they try to balance it
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01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:18.600
by having the luxury tax penalty if you pay over
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01:48:19.039 --> 01:48:21.319
a certain amount, but it's for a certain amount of years.
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01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.760
I don't remember exactly what it is, but yeah, it's
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01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:28.000
a fair point, fair fair point. Damn spend, you're just mad,
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01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.920
petty tonight, Spinn says, what team is paying rap bounties
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01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:33.640
for taking out our players? Guy plays physical, he comes
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01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:37.520
up and he makes hits. Yeah yeah, oh, Spinn says,
2224
01:48:37.520 --> 01:48:39.319
out at just a lot, a lot of just lost
2225
01:48:39.359 --> 01:48:43.439
a lot of respect points, admitting to that Sox fan
2226
01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:46.000
holding on trying not to vomit. I've said that a lot.
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01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:48.760
I've always said that I'm a red Sox fan. I
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01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:54.079
apologize if that you know, breaks your heart or hurts
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01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:57.640
your heart. Hurts your heart. But yeah, Andrew says bad.
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01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:01.560
No basketball has a cap. Basketball as a cap if
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01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:03.920
I googled it right now. Yeah, the NBA salary cap
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01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:07.319
for the twenty twenty four twenty five season is set
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01:49:07.399 --> 01:49:10.439
at one hundred and forty zero point five eighty eight
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01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:14.720
million dollars. Yeahbea as a salary cap. Maybe I'm reading
2235
01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:16.199
the wrong fan, but not they have a salary cap.
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01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:19.159
Bum bum bum.
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01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:21.840
Cameron says, do you think Buffalo brings rookies along slowly
2238
01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:23.880
because of where they draft? That's possible, right if you
2239
01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:27.479
get guys at the end of the first round, you know, nice,
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go socks, go socks. I'm I was already punting on
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01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:32.560
this year because they didn't invest. I'm excited for the
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01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:35.439
for the crop next year. We'll kind of see what happens.
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01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:37.239
But Cameron, to your thought, do you think Buffalo brings
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01:49:37.319 --> 01:49:39.439
rookies along slowly because of where they draft? That could
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01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:41.159
play a role. I think a lot of it is
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01:49:41.319 --> 01:49:44.840
just they have a They have a good team, so
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01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:48.319
they don't necessarily need rookies to jump in and contribute.
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01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:52.439
Right away. You've got like, look at I mean, Kinkaid
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01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:55.960
played when they needed him to. Tremaine Edmunds played when
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01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.159
they needed him to. I think it's depending at Oliver
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01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:00.560
played when they needed him to. Christian Benford is a
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01:50:00.640 --> 01:50:03.640
rookie that played. I think it's all dependent upon the
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01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:06.159
position the person is drafted in. I think they do
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01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:09.760
like to bring guys on along and develop, But if
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01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:11.319
it's at a position to be and that guy's the
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01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:13.279
best guy, they're gonna play him. It's just that the
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01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:15.119
Bills usually have a deep team that are able to
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01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:18.800
kind of get things done. Carl said. The Red Sox
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01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:20.439
lost tonight. They will not make the playoffs. No, I
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01:50:20.640 --> 01:50:22.359
didn't expect them even when the Red Socks were doing
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01:50:22.359 --> 01:50:24.720
well this year. They don't have the depth. They don't
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01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:26.960
have the talent, they didn't have the pitching staff, they
2263
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:28.640
didn't have the bullpen, and then they've had a ton
2264
01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:32.560
of injuries, starting with Trevor's story, but Devers has been
2265
01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:35.960
hurt all year. He's gotten significantly worse the last month.
2266
01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:38.039
His shoulder is just dead. I don't know how he's
2267
01:50:38.079 --> 01:50:41.039
not even on the il. And then yeah, the bullpen
2268
01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:43.600
is injured and hurt. The pitching staff is injured and hurt,
2269
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.119
and neither was really great to begin with. This year
2270
01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:48.439
was always a punt year for them. They're waiting for
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01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:52.279
Roman Anthony and Michael Mayer and all the sweet prospects
2272
01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:54.239
that they have in that farm system to come up,
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01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:57.000
probably as early as next year, especially with Roman Anthony
2274
01:50:57.039 --> 01:50:59.199
being the number one prospect and all the baseball. They're
2275
01:50:59.239 --> 01:51:01.359
looking for those dudes to come up and take that
2276
01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:02.880
next step. So it's been cool to watch some of
2277
01:51:02.920 --> 01:51:05.960
the guys developed, like watching the season that Rafaela has
2278
01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.319
had and seeing some of the pieces develop a little
2279
01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:10.800
bit there. But yeah, this season was I didn't expect
2280
01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:12.359
them to make the playoffs. I've just been watching them
2281
01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:14.600
this year and be like, oh, that's fun. But I
2282
01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:17.039
didn't expect. I expected them to fade late. I didn't
2283
01:51:17.039 --> 01:51:18.880
even expect them to be in this position now. But yeah,
2284
01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:24.640
they're they're not making the playoffs. It is not it
2285
01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:26.600
is not happening.
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01:51:26.319 --> 01:51:26.640
All right.
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01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:29.479
Well, on that message, i think I'm to throw up
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01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:31.319
the banner. This has tootless, folks, because we're gonna start
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01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:33.279
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go Bills