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Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM Eastern time. \
Today we discuss:
• In an indication of how radicalized international relations have become, Prime Minister Mark Carney says that Canada is preparing for the “extreme tail risk” that US President Trump might order military action against Canada.
• ICE left a U.S. citizen from Evanston, Ill., injured on the ground with broken teeth after he was brutalized and detained in another incident of mistaken identity. Meanwhile, Trump is reconsidering his deal to import Argentine beef.
• The New York Times reports that Mary Peltola, an Alaska Native running for Senate, runs a chaotic political operation marked by tumult—angry and profane outbursts at aides, and shoving an aide. Legit criticism or a sexist double standard?
• Campaign finance records cited by ProPublica show that a shell company established by fraudster Martin Kao made a pay-to-play donation to a super PAC supporting Maine Senator Susan Collins’ 2020 re-election campaign. Emails show Scott Reed, head of the super PAC backing Collins, knew Kao had used a shell company to mask his illegal donation.
00:22 DeProgram Open: Canada, ICE, and Senate Scandal
02:24 Kyrsten Sinema, the Bodyguard, and Mugshots
07:20 Mark Carney Prepares Canada for a U.S. Attack
18:03 Chat, College, and Whether a PhD Is Worth It
22:36 Mary Peltola and the “Mean Girl” Allegations
43:57 ICE Beats a U.S. Citizen in Evanston
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you, JT. I don't believe it. Good morning. I
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don't even know what you guys are talking about.
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This is DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl
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Thomas. It is Thursday, September 24th, 2026.
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Today on the docket, to give you an idea how
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crazy international relationships have become,
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Prime Minister Mark Carney says that Canada is
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preparing for military action by the United States
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and Donald Trump against Canada. That's
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not in a rag. Well, maybe it's in a rag, but
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it's in The New York Times. Another U.S. citizen
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misidentified as a legal immigrant has been brutalized
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by ICE this time in Evanston, Illinois. That's
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south of Chicago. They even broke out his teeth.
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We'll talk about that. Two U.S. senators, well,
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one U.S. senator and a U.S. senatorial
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hopeful, are in deep shit this morning. We talked
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a little bit, Jamarl, you brought up Susan Collins
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and the troubles that she's facing relating to
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allegations that she broke federal campaign law
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in a very serious way. That's now being added
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by another New York Times report. This is Mary
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Peltola, who's the Democratic nominee for the
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U.S. Senate in Alaska. She basically is being
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accused of being another Amy Klobuchar mean girl.
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It's funny because we just brought up Amy Klobuchar
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yesterday in the show, apropos of nothing in
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particular, and this just came up. So it's funny
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how that comes up. We are here Monday through
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Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern time. Mondays, Wednesdays,
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and Fridays we go a full two hours to 11.
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On Tuesdays and Thursdays we have the TMI Show
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at 10 a.m. So that cuts us off at 10 a.m. On
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Fridays I have the DMZ podcast and don't
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forget seven to nine Monday through Friday in
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the morning. That's Eastern time to tune in
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Jamarl's show solo. Okay that's a lot. Please
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like, follow and share the show. Please continue
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to support the show. Okay, good morning Jamarl. How
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are you doing this morning? I'm doing fine. I'm
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doing fine. I want to add one more story to it
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and it's not that this person is in trouble. It's
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just intrigue. Kyrsten Sinema. Did you hear the
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thing about her and the bodyguard? Where the
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bodyguard apparently trashed her place, $200,000
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worth of damage. Apparently she likes artwork.
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She has a lot of artwork that ended up at the
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bottom of the swimming pool. Yeah, he basically
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wanted her to post something on Twitter. But
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I don't know what he wanted her to post on Twitter,
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and she told him no, and he flipped out. Now,
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just for the audience, just in case they don't
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know, she was having a bit of an affair with
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her bodyguard. I saw the guy, and I thought to
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myself, she couldn't do better than this. I'm
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sorry. I saw the guy, and I thought, when you
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look at the mugshot, and I was like, this is
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the guy? Yeah. Look, she's not. She has
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a certain something, right? She's not
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a classic beauty, but. But there's
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something there that I like. She does. She's
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sexy. No question she is. Now when people
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say can you be pretty and not sexy, she's an example
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of, I mean can you be sexy without being pretty.
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She's not ugly but she's not pretty but she's
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definitely sexy. And he's, I think
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this reminds me when Arnold Schwarzenegger got
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with his nanny and I saw a picture
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of her I was like she was just what was lying
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around. When I saw the Kyrsten
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Sinema 39-year-old dude, I was like, man, that
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guy looks like he sleeps hard sometimes. It was
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like, whoa. Although, mugshot is never a great
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moment. True, but I can't see a good moment for
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this guy. No, I'm agreeing. I'm extrapolating.
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Clean him up, Ricki Lake makeover. I'm like,
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hmm. Still don't see it. By the way, did you
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see the woman who was arrested? The woman was
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arrested for having sex in Florida with the family
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dog. And she had a great mugshot. And she's a
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dog fucker. Alleged dog fucker. And she definitely
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broke. She didn't go the Nick Nolte route. She
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looked great in the mugshot. Yeah. Well
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that dog obviously had it coming. He was. I didn't
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know that TMI got moved up. It's a confusing
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time. I never thought I'd live to see a time when the government
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of Canada would have to prepare itself, steel
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itself against a U.S. military attack from the
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U.S. But here we are. Well, that is a time-honored,
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in fairness though, Ted, that is a time-honored
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tradition. Canada twice.
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The last time was in the 1850s. We nearly went to
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war over... went to war with the British Empire
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over a pig. Look it up. It was a crisis. A Canadian
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farmer shot an American pig and damn it, it started
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a war. Yeah, that's true. But this is North America,
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where if it happened before Tuesday, nobody remembers
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it. This is America. What are you talking about?
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It happened yesterday. No one knows. That's true.
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Very true. How do y'all think my mugshot would
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look? Brutally honest. Pretty much the way you
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always look. I'm hoping I would smile. Well,
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a smile is a good idea because that picture is
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going to be all over the place. Well, it depends
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on how they get you in there for the mugshot. It's
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like, is this your last-stand mugshot? Or is
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this a... I always assume it's my last
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stand. I'd like to take a page out of the apostle.
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My favorite one is the Frank Sinatra one that's
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in every pizza parlor where he's just
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sort of like, what. What's the... He'd
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polish it off. I don't even remember what he was
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arrested for. Neither do I, but
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Sinatra, Sammy Davis, all those guys had mob ties
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and stuff like that so who knows. But I don't
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think this had anything to do with it. I think
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it was something like maybe shoplifting
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or something stupid like that. Oh you mean when
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he was a kid? Yeah. You've seen it. He's
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very young. And he's, he
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aged great. He always looked great. But
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yeah he's such a man. I always think to myself
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Sinatra's thing is a man's man.
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Jill Scott is a woman's woman. When
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they're doing their albums, their music, it's
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very unapologetically a man. Men would always
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that type of true. Oh God, man, he's so good.
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Yeah, let's talk about Canada. Let's talk about
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Canada. All right, let's get... Is Carney playing
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to his audience in this? And just for the audience,
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he was having an interview with The New York Times
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and in The New York Times piece Carney made the
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point of saying it would be irresponsible if
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I didn't prepare for potential military
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attack by the U.S. It's a tail risk but still
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you have to prepare for it because a long-tail
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risk he used, which is that term which is sort
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of like a dot-com term. Yeah. Is he
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playing to his Canadian base? Is that what this
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is? Look, hey we have to pretend
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we have to potentially prepare for an invasion
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by Trump. He threatened Greenland with military
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force. He's threatening South America with
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military force. He put out the map of all of Canada
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and South America and even British colonies
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and French colonies that are supposed to be American
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territory. So we got to prepare for this. Okay,
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but the U.S. hasn't built up any military force
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to attack Canada. Yeah, but we don't really need
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to. In the doctrine of preemption,
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you're allowed to attack if your enemy's forces
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are massed on the border. Right. Okay. But we're
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the United States. We're already massed on the
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border. We're right
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there. But don't you have to build up some military
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contingent to go after Canada if you're going
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to do it? I would think honestly, I have a feeling
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that this is probably something the U.S. could
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take care of over a weekend. It's so
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sparsely populated, right? There's
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50 percent of the economic. I think that's
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right. But a very, very high percentage of economic
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activity in Canada is all in Quebec, right? So
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if you merely control Montreal and Quebec City,
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the game's half over. And if you
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can't imagine Ottawa is going to be terribly
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difficult to get rid of. So if you have Ontario
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and Quebec provinces, and even then you don't
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need the northern parts at all. That's just tundra
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where bears live. That's it. Game over.
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You don't care about Vancouver. You can scoop
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it up later. We should take it. That's
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probably. Look, I read this in a number
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of ways. Like you, I would imagine this is also
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for Canadian domestic consumption. And rightfully
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so. The Canadians are stirred up and
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it's not without cause. Whip them up. Whip them
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up. Yeah. And on the other hand, this is also
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that thing where governments have
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to have contingency plans for every possible
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thing, right? So right now the United States I
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guarantee you has an invasion plan in a dusty
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file cabinet somewhere for the U.S. invasion
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and occupation of Vanuatu. And we have,
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what if we're attacked by Cuba? Who
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knows, right? So the Canadians
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are no different. They're a real country. They
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have a military. They have to have contingency
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plans. And he was clear about saying this
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is not like we don't think this is going to happen,
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but just in case. But I thought the mere fact
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that he could bring this up, and he's not a stupid
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man. In an interview with The New York Times,
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tells me. This isn't a message
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for a Canadian audience
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who are reading the Toronto Star.
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This is for an American audience.
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This is how much I'm telling you guys how much
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you guys have scared us and how pissed off we
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are. Yeah, well, scared the world. Yeah.
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Donald Trump threatened to attack Greenland.
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Right. Right. And the Greenlanders are more to
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the point. The Danes rolled. Yeah. So
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it's not like we're just going after brown people
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or we're just going after Persians. It's not
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that. We are putting the world on notice. Again,
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when Donald Trump put that map out. Our imperialism
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isn't racist. Right. We have equity in our militarism.
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Give him credit. He's equal opportunity.
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He's like, hey I like that too. Yeah. But we're
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white people we don't care. That's cool. Yeah it's
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like fair enough. He's equal opportunity. He's not
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being racist about it. Good for him on that.
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From an economic standpoint it makes sense.
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Canada has all this tar sand, has a
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crap ton of natural resources that we want that
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we need that we covet. And to the point,
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JT, think about this. And those bear rugs are going
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to look nice on our sofa. Whenever I play Civilization,
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and I've got to know about you. By the way, we've
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got to pick up our Civilization game again. Do
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you ever spawn and you're right there next to
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a neighbor who's huge with a crap ton of resources,
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no military, you're sitting right there like,
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I want that. Do you ever just go across the border?
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What can they do? Do you ever just go across
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the border when you play Civ and take it? If
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so, that's a human condition. It's like we were
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giving them the option of being a governor. You
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didn't want to take that. We tried. And at that
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point you say, hey man, we feel under threat
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by Canadian Mounties. That's so funny, right?
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We think Canada has nuclear weapons and we can't
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allow Canada to have nukes. This was
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literally, wasn't it some Bill Murray movie or
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something? Like in the 70s or 80s where Canada
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invades the US? Yeah. So it's literally it. It's
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literally a joke. Literally, it was a comedy
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routine. That's where the Bill Clinton-Monica
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Lewinsky thing came from. The wag the dog thing.
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The idea that the U.S. played up as if Canada
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was going to invade America in order to get away
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from a scandal that was taking place in America.
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That's where it made it, right? Wag the Dog,
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I think. Wag the Dog, yeah. And that's where
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the phrase came from. When Bill Clinton was trying
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to... They claimed that Bill Clinton launched
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airstrikes in order to distract from Monica Lewinsky
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and wag the dog. Yeah, the Canadian thing. Look,
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I'm being tongue in cheek when I say we should
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take Canada. I hope so. But that is what we did
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to Greenland. And that is what we did to Venezuela.
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That is what we did to Iran. And what we're about
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to do to Cuba. That's what we did to Mexico.
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This is not a new
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phenomenon. Right. No, but the thing is, will
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it stick? Anyone,
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as the Afghans can tell you, anyone can invade,
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but can you occupy? And occupation is hard. So
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I mean. Just to be clear, I'm not truly
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suggesting we should invade Canada. I just want
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to make sure. I don't want people to like Jamarl
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saying we should take Greenland and Canada.
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No, no. Look, we can't even run our own country.
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Right. Are you kidding? This
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country is a cesspool with
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declining birth, with declining infant, with
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rising infant mortality. We can't send our kids
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to college anymore. Everyone's broke.
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The economy's a disaster. And just you wait.
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And yeah, no, it's nuts.
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We should do some comments and then yes.
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All right hold on let me just say this real quick.
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Wouldn't, if we're going to be
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fighting wars and stuff,
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building an empire, would it make sense to actually
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take over a country that would benefit us? Instead
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of occupying Afghanistan for 20 years, which
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you got nothing out of, at least Canada would
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give something of material benefit to the empire,
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unlike Afghanistan. So you can at least make
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the logical choice. And think about all of the
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illegal pot that comes across the northern border.
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That's a massive national security issue because
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Americans don't grow their own pot. It's all
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coming from Canada. You've got to stop it. Wait,
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wait. Pot's coming? I don't think that's true
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at all. No, you're throwing pot. First
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of all, the Canadian climate isn't good for pot.
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Trust me, I live in Montana. But also, the vast
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majority of the weed that's sold on the street
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in the United States originates now in legal
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grow houses, right? Basically, since legalization,
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there's overproduction, and they can't sell enough
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of it through legal dispensaries. So it's mostly
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just dumped on the street. So most of the weed
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you can get from Joe Bob is perfectly
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good. It's the same you can buy at the dispensary
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because it's a great market. You'll buy weed
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off the street at this point. Those taxes. I just
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don't get why. Look man,
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I'd love it cheaper. Yeah there's no taxes on
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no. Yeah. Believe me, street weed, I don't
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buy it, but I know someone who does. I know someone
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who does, and the same shit is literally half
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the price, and it's the same shit. It's not the
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same shit, though. If I go to the weed shop,
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and I say, hey, I would like Thai lights. And
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they say, okay, well, here's your container of
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Thai lights. And Thai lights may be expensive,
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right? Or Northern Lights. Dispensary weed is
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expensive. Yeah, but it's the same exact stuff.
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It's not the same thing. They're different products.
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They're different types. It's the same product
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because it's grown in the same exact facility,
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usually in California. Ted, there are so many
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different brands of weed. I know. I've been to
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dispensaries. I know. Right. I guess I'm saying
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it's not the same. If I'm going in, for example,
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if somebody says, I want something from New Rock.
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You can order that specific strain, though. And
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in New York City, for example, it'll be
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delivered to you. Right. From a street vendor.
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Is that what you're saying? From yeah, yeah exactly.
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Usually you go out they text you they say come
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out into the street a guy drives by hands it
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to you and he's selling it off the street. He's
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not selling it from a dispensary. No. Yeah exactly.
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He's selling it from, he probably has it in his
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apartment. I'm very doubtful. Well I believe that
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you can get it in New York and I believe that
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they can deliver it in New York and you're in
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D.C. I can't imagine it's any different. It's a
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real city. Well I'm in Richmond. Wait, wait, wait.
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Richmond's a real city too. Kalispell would probably be not, they don't have
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delivery systems and stuff like that, but. Well,
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they have delivery systems, but they're from
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dispensaries. That's what I'm trying to say.
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Right, right, right, right. That's not what I
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mean. I mean, talking about, I think there's
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a lot of gray market weed, stuff that sort of
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falls off a truck. In D.C. it is. There's a
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huge amount of gray market stuff. Like in D.C.
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you can go to a weed house and they would
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have just crispy tree. Let's do some comments
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here. Okay. Ray is taking me to account for my
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bedhead. I'm like, I don't have bedhead today.
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This is normal. You should see my bedhead. I
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look like McNulty. Jackson, would you do a PhD?
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Would you do a PhD, Robby? That's a,
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okay. So yes. Yes, I would. But I'm worried about
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the opportunity cost of it takes
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five years on average, can take longer.
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And during that time, I'm not doing this podcast
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and I'm not drawing cartoons or not as much as
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I should be. So I'm 63 years old. Do I now want
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to be 68 years old and with a PhD, which is cool,
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it would be fun to have, besides which I would
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also need a master's. So seven years, I'd be
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70 years old. I think that'd be great. If I had
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the money and the time to do that I would totally.
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I love college. I love studying. But also a PhD
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isn't really college where you get to hang out
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at seminars and shoot the and solve the world's
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problems. A PhD is a lot of individual research
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which is pretty lonely. So I guess I'm sorry to
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weasel. I'm like maybe. How about you guys? No.
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It's nice to be a doctor but the work that
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you put into it properly. No there's other things
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I would prefer. I prefer to be a chess master.
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I would prefer to go back to a master's in
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history. I've never been to college. I don't see
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the point. I do see the point. It's
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well if
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seriously let's just say you're rich and you
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have nothing better and you can do anything you
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want. College is a lot of fun especially when
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you're young. It's like you're
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meeting, you're hanging out with other people
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and studying and the world feels open and you
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have possibilities and you have access to
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research institutions. It can be a lot of fun.
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I think it's maybe not as fun if you're at a
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community college or something. Ted, I've heard
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your stories about studying. I'm a married man,
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so I don't think I could study the same way that
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you did with your extracurricular activities.
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You probably wouldn't be married when you're
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going to college. Most people aren't. I was a
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good student. I graduated with honors. Yeah,
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you're going to get a three-year degree on threesomes.
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Lay Pipe 401. Not just threesomes. Her Majesty
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Lindsey Graham says, sup, heifers. And Jackson,
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did you dye your hair since yesterday? Ted, you
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look different. Yeah, it's weird. I look grayer.
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Yeah, I think it's just the light is different.
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Okay. And no, I don't dye my hair. I've never
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dyed my hair ever in my life. I can't say I never
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would, but actually, I like the way my hair looks
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right now. Is it the laptop versus the iPad?
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Oh, that's probably what it is. That might be
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it. Different camera. Because I have an external
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camera on my home computer. Thank you, Ray, for
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gifting a subscription to DeProgram. We do need
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those subscriptions. Moth36, the dog can now
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be an FBI agent. So true. So true. Pura Vida.
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Guys, I highly recommend you pay subscribe. Ted
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sends pics of him in his briefs on request. Uh-huh.
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You don't need to wait for him to get up
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and let the cat inside the room. Okay. Liza Lan.
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Do you know how big Canada is? You Americans
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are stupid. Yeah, I know. Canada is huge. But
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I think the point that we're making is most of
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it is empty. It's like if you're in Iceland.
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Iceland is mostly empty. It's huge landmass.
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You don't need to control the Canadian wildfire
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zones. Yeah, you don't need the polar bears.
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Polar bears can do what they do. They've got
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that under control. Yeah, just get the part that's
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important. So in Montana, you take three cities,
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you have the entire state. Yeah, you don't need
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all of it. Honestly, New York, if you
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wanted to control New York State, all you need
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is the city. And maybe you could use Buffalo.
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You don't even need Albany. Yeah, yeah. So, yes,
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we know Canada is huge. We're just talking about
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the population center. And, yes, Americans are
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incredibly stupid. F you so. I took community
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college classes for 12 years and got 15. What?
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15 associate's degrees and three certificates.
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It's cheap and no stress when old and doesn't
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matter. So I ended up going to. 15 is a little
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crazy. I went to Longwood first. I was sick most
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of the time I was in Longwood. I ended up coming
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out. I ended up going back to J. Sargeant Reynolds,
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ECPI. I got two certificates from both of them.
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Well, that's not true. One was a certificate.
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One was an associate's degree. Then I went to
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get the bachelor's from New York Institute of
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Technology and have a herbal bachelor's degree
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that I never used. We had a thing in
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Richmond where if you went to community college,
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you could skip the first two years of your regular
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college, if that makes sense. But it doesn't
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work great. Yeah. There's stuff that you need.
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So you graduated with a bachelor's? Yeah, I graduated
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with a bachelor's from New York Institute of
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Technology, J. Sargeant Reynolds. I got my associate's
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in. And I got my software degree from ECPI. ECPI
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was like a college event which became
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kind of like a community technical college here in
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Richmond but I got associates from, I got a degree
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from that which is what I used to go into software
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and which start doing the software development
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stuff. Yeah now you wouldn't even need a degree
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right? Not really. They
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care more about your skill and capability. In fact
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they have classes. Yeah and testing. I
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think technical tests anyway. When
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you go into software usually there's a panel
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of people who you're talking to and they're
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evaluating you and sometimes they have you doing
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stuff on boards and coming up with software logic
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and all this other stuff. Yeah technical interviews
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can be intense. So, OK, well, let's I think we
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should keep. Oh, let's see. Did I hit all the
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comments here? Oh, I got to say, if I had to
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do if I really wanted to do things my way, I'd
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honestly get a history master's PhD combo. And
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it would probably I know it's stupid, but it
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would probably help me sell my books better.
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What's not stupid? Knowledge for the sake of
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knowledge is not a negative thing. Yeah, no,
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it's just the accreditation thing. Look,
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I like dusty archives. I like handling
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documents that the President of the United States
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handled. It's just cool. And I
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think and obviously you learn a lot, but I'm just saying
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it's stupid that someone would buy
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your book because it says Ted Rall, Ph.D. on
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it. My mom used to say that I should have used
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my formal name, my legal name for my books because
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I would be taken more seriously. And she was
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kind of ridiculous. But I kind of see her point
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like Frederick T. Rall the Third.
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It just sounds very serious. Yeah
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it sounds very serious and pretentious
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which is something I do hate. All right so
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that's it for the comments for now. Should
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we talk about ICE? Yeah we should talk about ICE.
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Okay or we can move on to I want to talk I'm
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really dying to talk about Mary Peltola. Shall
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we talk about her? Yeah. Okay so Mary Peltola is
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an Alaska Native running. She's the Democratic
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nominee for Senate. Democrats were very, very excited
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about her. And basically
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she
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was kind of favored to win probably in what would
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likely be a blue wave election this November.
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And she still might. The New York Times just
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published this piece that basically says she's
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an asshole. Basically, she pushed one of her
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aides, shoved him in the chest, almost knocked
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him over. She apparently has a raging temper.
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She likes to dress down people in front of others.
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All reportedly, allegedly, all the normal weasel
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words. My personal favorite, and you'll know
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why, is that she was taken to task for using
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the R-word, retard, as in, fuck that retard.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she also used the
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F-word, where she was referring to someone as
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a faggot. Really. And I'm like, okay, so definitely
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shades of Amy Klobuchar. So she has two principal
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lines of defense here. Well three. One is
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I knew her and I worked for her and she was great
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and I didn't see anything like that from some
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people. Okay that's not much of a defense. Okay
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then because it's like so what maybe she was
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nice to you. Okay then the
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next line of defense is this is sexism,
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double standard, dudes act like this all the time
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and so what's with this. This is just like
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what y'all did to Amy Klobuchar. That was also
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her principal line of defense. And then
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there's also people who are just
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like I don't care I'm going to vote for a Democrat
00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.140
against any Republican no matter what. Team
00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:12.200
Team Blue no matter what. And that's not really
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defense that's an annulment. Yeah that's just
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yeah that's right. And so wait, what was
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the other thing that she said? Oh, yeah. She
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said that in 2023, she suffered two big deaths
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in her family. Her mother died and her, look,
00:24:26.910 --> 00:24:30.349
I feel that. My mom died six years ago and I'm
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still not over it. So I totally feel that. And
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also her husband died in a plane crash so she
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was raising as a widow raising her kids
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and she says I was look I was short-tempered.
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I was strung out and grieving and so
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I took it out on myself. I may have
00:24:48.329 --> 00:24:51.950
taken it out on my staff, right? So these lines
00:24:51.950 --> 00:24:57.609
of defense are somewhat in conflict with each
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other, right? Because I didn't do it but if
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I did it this is because of
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my grieving. The one that interests me is the
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sexism one. I don't know. Because it's like.
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I even wrote it down. You said it. I even wrote
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it down. Go ahead. No, no, no. So the reason
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it interests me is, first of all. I don't know
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that I buy the assumption that men behave like
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this all the time and don't get called to task
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for it. I think that's something that mean women
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like Hillary Clinton say. And I've
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worked for a lot of male bosses, mostly male
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bosses and some female bosses, and they ran the
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gamut. I've had like by some counts,
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like over 40 jobs. And I've had lots of freelance
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clients, hundreds of them. So
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I've had lots of supervisors, editors, and so on.
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And I gotta say that men tend, on average,
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at least in my experience, to be better bosses
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than women. And they tend to be calmer and they
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tend not to go to these very bad places
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like belittling and name calling as quickly as
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women. Now, I guess what I really want
00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:00.119
to say is if a dude was running for Senate and
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these same allegations came out about him, I
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suspect they would be as notable and they would
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be as noticed as the fact that it's in this case,
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it's from a woman. I think it's the fact it's
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not the fact that she's a mean girl. It's the
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fact that she's a mean person. And I think the
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question for voters is, do they or should they
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care? And that's really the question we should
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be asking. I'm not even sure it's
00:26:29.509 --> 00:26:32.029
worthy of bringing. I'm not sure in a world
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where The New York Times every day skips entire
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countries to cover that this is really worth
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the space. Her person, the way
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she deals with personnel. In a way, I have to
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admit, I don't really care. I would care how
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she votes. I would care about the policy she
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promulgates. I would have voted
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for Ted Kennedy. I wouldn't have let my daughter
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ride in a car with him, but I would have voted
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for him because of his policy priorities.
00:26:53.779 --> 00:26:58.000
Bernie Sanders is apparently very loyal
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to his wife. I don't really care. It doesn't
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affect me one way or the other. But they don't
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write articles like this about men. I
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remember when men aren't really like this as
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much as women are. Well, one, I don't know that
00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:23.339
many they don't. Obviously, they're going
00:27:23.339 --> 00:27:28.720
to be people in the political space that act
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this way. And I would even like Rahm Emanuel.
00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:33.000
He's like that. Right. Rahm Emanuel
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.900
is an asshole, but they don't write articles
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about this in a negative context about him
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.319
being this way. And I gotta be honest with you
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.599
I would wager to you that many political people
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.480
are this way just from the pressure of getting
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.279
into the positions that they're in. They all yell
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.180
and curse and carry on and bark at their subordinates
00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:56.279
by definition to get to where they are. Now it
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.539
doesn't mean that all of them this way but I
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can imagine that getting to this particular position
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.279
you have a certain personality type of getting
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.740
to this position. It's like they always say,
00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:09.799
CEOs and politicians are sociopaths, and that
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.779
you on some level need to be that way. And this
00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:15.099
kind of type of personality need to get to the
00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:18.940
position. People like Sanders, who don't want
00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:24.039
to hit their opponent, don't typically get to
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:29.240
that position because they don't necessarily
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.740
want to be who they need to be in order to get
00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:33.040
there. And I guess my point is, they would write
00:28:33.040 --> 00:28:35.839
this about Klobuchar and Kamala Harris and this
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.599
woman, but at a really key time, by the way,
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:44.039
right? Just literally in the clutch,
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.140
just six weeks before the election.
00:28:47.140 --> 00:28:50.339
How many men do they write stories like this
00:28:50.339 --> 00:28:50.639
about? The way Cuomo acted,
00:28:50.639 --> 00:28:54.420
this was only towards the end of his career where
00:28:54.420 --> 00:28:56.980
they went after Cuomo. But Cuomo acted like this
00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.779
all the way through. Rahm Emanuel acted like
00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.000
this all the way through. Cuomo's stuff was more
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serious. He was an ass grabber. Well, that too.
00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:08.660
I guess I'm saying maybe they do have a point.
00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.240
That the mean girl thing is a mean girl thing.
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.500
Meaning they didn't make a movie Mean
00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:15.800
Boys. Mean Girls, right? Yeah. Even though men
00:29:15.800 --> 00:29:19.099
do come in groups and act like basically I guess
00:29:19.099 --> 00:29:22.700
you would call that a gang. But I don't know.
00:29:22.700 --> 00:29:25.980
I don't think this behavior is, and see
00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:29.859
I'm in a bubble in this. I don't know. You
00:29:29.859 --> 00:29:32.140
may be right that it may be this thing of
00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:34.559
well, women need to overcompensate. And in overcompensating,
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.859
they have this idea in their heads about how
00:29:37.859 --> 00:29:40.319
men behave. And they are trying to behave in
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.839
a similar way as they think. Yeah, this is what
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.500
leadership looks like. Because leadership has
00:29:46.500 --> 00:29:46.800
always been male and aggressive. And I have to
00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:49.440
be aggressive. And I've got to dress like a man
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.059
and cut my hair real short. And be an asshole.
00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:55.420
And be strong. Militaristic. Yeah. The reality
00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:55.720
of it is, okay, well, men don't entirely act
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:02.079
this way as bosses all the time. I've
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:02.379
only had maybe one that was that way. And even
00:30:02.379 --> 00:30:04.740
he wasn't that way all the time. Right? Like,
00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:08.269
he just acted that way when things went awry.
00:30:08.269 --> 00:30:11.609
I've had women bosses that were horrendous. And
00:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.329
it wasn't because they were women. It was because
00:30:15.329 --> 00:30:19.049
they were just horrible people. Yeah. Everybody
00:30:19.049 --> 00:30:22.490
recognized them as just being horrible people
00:30:22.490 --> 00:30:26.750
in this particular context. A woman I used to
00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:29.250
work for as a barista, she was a lunatic. And
00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:32.710
just very difficult to be around in general.
00:30:32.710 --> 00:30:33.010
But that wasn't the norm. I had another woman
00:30:33.010 --> 00:30:35.900
boss that was chill, cool, and just a really
00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:38.440
good boss. Oh, sure. I've had great female bosses,
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.180
for sure. I don't know. It's very possible
00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:44.000
that this is... I'm divided. It could be... this
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.539
is what women think men are in which case they're
00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:49.599
trying to emulate men when they're getting leadership
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.500
positions and they may be insecurity on some
00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:55.980
level in which case they need to behave this
00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.539
way. But the other way could be the media is
00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:01.599
playing up this mean girl thing because the mean
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:01.899
girl is a meme of sorts and so when they find
00:31:01.899 --> 00:31:04.660
a mean girl they like hey she's mean to her
00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:06.420
staff she's pushing this guy she's hitting this
00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:09.299
guy etc. The other part to this is... Well,
00:31:09.299 --> 00:31:12.519
if true, that is a serious matter. That is assault.
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.440
It's every bit as serious as
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.960
what Cuomo was accused of. Although with Cuomo,
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.480
it was a serial matter. And it was sexual harassment
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.019
too, yeah. The other part to this is, that I
00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:26.440
think is interesting, is A, this is coming just
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:32.960
before the election. Also, I'm worried. Is using
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.700
the R-word disqualifying? Oh, well, so much for
00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:37.700
my political career. And that's the part, right?
00:31:37.700 --> 00:31:42.339
It's a Democrat. Which, if you're a Republican,
00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:45.460
it doesn't really matter. If you're independent,
00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.299
it doesn't really matter. I don't think it does.
00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:50.039
As a Democrat, oh, this is orthodoxy. By the
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:50.339
way, part of me liked when they quoted her.
00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:53.380
And it was like where she was pissed
00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:54.960
because some guy sent, some fundraiser sent out
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.950
a photo, a selfie of him and her together and
00:31:57.950 --> 00:32:00.009
he wasn't supposed to and she texted
00:32:00.009 --> 00:32:02.089
her staff that retard. I'm like I like this lady's
00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:04.849
style. I literally was like I would feel
00:32:04.849 --> 00:32:07.150
the same way that I love a woman that would drop
00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:11.410
an F-bomb. I think it's very, yeah me too, depending
00:32:11.410 --> 00:32:14.849
on how to do it. I don't want it to be
00:32:14.849 --> 00:32:16.910
if it's I had an interview with a guest the other
00:32:16.910 --> 00:32:19.809
day. I like the fact that she didn't feel the
00:32:19.809 --> 00:32:23.619
need to be woke or that she could talk like a
00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:25.480
real person behind closed doors. And it kind
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:25.780
of sucks to think that we live in this world
00:32:25.780 --> 00:32:28.940
where every time you text out a brain fart, it's
00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:31.119
going to end up in the fucking New York Times.
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:32.839
It's not a brain fart. She was pissed off. She
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.180
meant it. Well, I have a question for y'all.
00:32:35.180 --> 00:32:38.279
And I think I probably have a different take
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.220
than y'all. I think we're going to see more
00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:42.180
of this with women bosses. Because women are
00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:45.460
outperforming men in the workplace. So you're
00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.819
going to have more women bosses. You're going
00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:55.019
to have more women executives. More women senators.
00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:55.319
And women like to put knives in other women.
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.019
Listen, I worked in healthcare. It's
00:32:58.019 --> 00:32:58.319
a very woman-dominated industry. It just is.
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.019
And you are swimming in a sea of estrogen. That's
00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:03.099
one of the reasons I wanted to work from home
00:33:03.099 --> 00:33:06.500
is because... I'm not going to pretend like I
00:33:06.500 --> 00:33:08.799
don't know what you're talking about. It's bad
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.599
enough to be a woman in that environment. Me
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.519
as the only dude, the only guy with external
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.400
plumbing. You were like Clint Eastwood in The
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.500
Beguiled. It was bad. And the thing is, for example,
00:33:17.500 --> 00:33:18.160
there was this one lady who I had to train. And
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.480
I used the word train loosely because, frankly,
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:20.890
she was stupid. To borrow a Tedism, she was retarded.
00:33:20.890 --> 00:33:24.230
And so my job was medical records, which involved
00:33:24.230 --> 00:33:27.710
reading and reading comprehension and be able
00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:32.750
to actually understand the document that's
00:33:32.750 --> 00:33:36.210
in front of you. I spent six months training
00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:39.250
this lady. When she finally got done training,
00:33:39.250 --> 00:33:43.569
she called me over to talk to her about an ecology note.
00:33:43.569 --> 00:33:46.410
The first I asked her, so did you read it? She
00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:48.690
said, no. I said, read it, do your job.
00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:49.339
If you need help, come back to me again. She
00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:52.599
went to HR. I got to have six weeks of sensitivity
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:52.899
training because I was too rough on her. I hurt
00:33:52.899 --> 00:33:54.759
her feelings because I told her to read a document
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.839
and do her job. That was sexist on my part. So
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.579
women who are squealing about this. Come on.
00:33:58.579 --> 00:34:00.500
Who watches this show who would not say that
00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:03.099
you deserve more sensitivity training? Well,
00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:06.019
it's probably why I'm so insensitive. It's because
00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:09.239
I've had enough of all this crap. But seriously,
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:09.579
Ted, if I don't do the job that you don't pay
00:34:09.579 --> 00:34:15.110
me for, I get called to the carpet for it, for
00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:17.369
not doing the job that I'm not supposed to do.
00:34:17.369 --> 00:34:20.070
And I say, hey, retard. Correct. But
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:25.630
that's the point. Although you would deserve
00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:28.309
it, but I wouldn't do that, no. Well, of course.
00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:28.609
In which case, I would tell you then to find
00:34:28.609 --> 00:34:30.650
yourself a lower paid producer to replace me
00:34:30.650 --> 00:34:32.429
with. Oh, wait, you can't. I'd have to pay you
00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:37.849
to do the job at that point. But I guess the
00:34:37.849 --> 00:34:40.690
point I'm trying to make is that as women
00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:44.619
climb more and more and more in the
00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.519
workplace just to see more and more and more
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.559
of the stuff coming on and women are very toxic
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.579
to each other. It's just a fact of life. Sorry
00:34:53.579 --> 00:34:56.380
ladies if it hurt your feelings. It's the truth. I
00:34:56.380 --> 00:34:56.800
worked in all-male workplaces and I've worked
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.739
in all-female workplaces and
00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:01.980
oh boy. All male is not good. It's
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:04.360
like you need that. You need the
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.199
sexual variety. You need people who
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.239
are more civilized to be present. Men aren't
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.320
civilized. Men are savage. But an all-female
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:13.960
workplace is so toxic and it's dangerous. You
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.559
just don't want to be around. Is it dangerous?
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.679
Yeah, you will be. Yeah, only bad things
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.119
will happen. All right. But anyway, so let's
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.000
get back to Mary Peltola. Yeah, I mean, is it
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.300
newsworthy? Her family members have passed. Because
00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:31.480
I think it is. Let's assume it's true. Well,
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.139
it is true that they had passed. We don't know
00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:37.039
if it's relevant. Yeah. Look, but that
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.920
brings up another question, right? Grace
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.220
under pressure. Look, in
00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:42.820
2020, during the pandemic, my mom, right before
00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:46.260
the pandemic, my mom died two weeks before the
00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:48.900
lockdown. I didn't spend the next year or two
00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:52.760
screaming at people and calling
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.019
them names and shoving them. So the point is, this is a presumably being a United
00:35:58.019 --> 00:36:01.230
States senator, even albeit from Alaska would
00:36:01.230 --> 00:36:04.869
involve some pressure, some high-pressure
00:36:04.869 --> 00:36:06.869
situations. You'd want to think that
00:36:06.869 --> 00:36:07.169
she'd be able to be calm and address
00:36:07.169 --> 00:36:10.150
those. I don't know. Maybe. People handle
00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:10.450
stuff differently. I know when I got sick
00:36:10.450 --> 00:36:12.170
when I, well ironically just before the pandemic
00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:14.269
and really didn't even have anything to do with
00:36:14.269 --> 00:36:14.569
the pandemic, when I had the stroke when I
00:36:14.569 --> 00:36:17.789
was at the job I mean, in fact, a lot of stuff
00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:20.840
went wrong that year in 2020. It was like a stroke.
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.000
It was MERS. What's this thing called? Oh, what
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.000
is the thing called? I can't think of the name
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.440
of it. Mindy didn't let me come into work. Mindy
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.079
was like, dude, go home. And I was trying to
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.780
do the job. At one point, he was like, dude,
00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.940
go home, go home. Yeah, this could
00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:40.840
be contagious. But a lot of stuff was going wrong
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.300
that year. And I wasn't popping off. I was distant.
00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:45.079
Yeah. You're right. People respond differently.
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.159
Yeah. I want to be left to my own devices. I'm
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:49.320
like you that way. Yeah. And when you're stuck
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.940
with a wife. I don't want to talk about my problems
00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:54.300
because I already have my problem. And if I talk
00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:56.159
about my problem, it's like I'm reliving my problem.
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.880
I'm experiencing it again twice. Well, it's indulging.
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.460
I would consider it's indulging. It's like it's
00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:02.059
it also doesn't do any good. It's almost
00:37:02.059 --> 00:37:04.900
never that someone says hey Ted have you ever
00:37:04.900 --> 00:37:07.460
thought of and I'm like oh no I didn't know that.
00:37:07.460 --> 00:37:07.780
And see I think this is the difference
00:37:07.780 --> 00:37:09.840
between men and women if we're being honest.
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.380
Women would more so indulge. Yeah women always
00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:15.090
say oh you feel so good after you talk about
00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:16.989
something. I'm like I don't. Yeah I don't see the
00:37:16.989 --> 00:37:18.789
point. Unless someone has a practical
00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:22.530
solution. Like if someone says like when I was dealing with the L.A. Times,
00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:23.010
if someone said, oh, I know a good lawyer who
00:37:23.010 --> 00:37:24.809
would be interested in your case. I already talked
00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:25.289
to him. He wants your case. OK, that's really
00:37:25.289 --> 00:37:26.769
useful. Thank you so much. That's helping. Men
00:37:26.769 --> 00:37:31.250
get this wrong. I really think men get this wrong,
00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:31.670
though, like on some level. I think that's why
00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:34.010
men eat their guns. The housewives. One of the
00:37:34.010 --> 00:37:35.269
things that blew my mind about housewives is
00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:40.409
the way they talk about stuff that I would consider
00:37:40.409 --> 00:37:43.380
to be too weak to talk about. And they would
00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:46.019
just openly have these conversations. And I'm
00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:48.320
like, whoa, people talk about that. And I realized,
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.800
oh, right, it's the housewives that are doing
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.559
this. These aren't like the housemen or the house
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:56.859
husbands that are doing this. Husbands don't
00:37:56.859 --> 00:38:01.920
really get into it. They may a little bit, but
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.260
they're usually talking about external stuff.
00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:04.560
The women are talking about internal stuff that
00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:07.800
is effectively bugging them. And you think to
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:08.400
yourself, is this what you gotta spend your time
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:12.280
on even in the show the men are like oh god they're
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:12.699
at it again. They're able on some level to maintain
00:38:12.699 --> 00:38:14.559
their friendships and relationships because they're
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.980
willing to kind of air this stuff. I don't know
00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:20.019
maybe there is a value in just airing stuff. Oh
00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:23.539
clearly there is. It makes a lot of
00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:23.839
people feel better. Yeah but sometimes
00:38:23.839 --> 00:38:25.800
group, I did when I was,
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.100
I supported
00:38:26.100 --> 00:38:28.820
my mom. I was a caregiver for my mom. She had
00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:29.639
Alzheimer's. It was hard. I'm an only child.
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.199
And I went to a support group. And that was useful,
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.019
just basically. My main takeaway, though, was,
00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:36.319
man, my situation sucks, but it could suck worse
00:38:36.319 --> 00:38:39.639
when I heard these other stories. It always can
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.500
be worse. Yeah. I stopped feeling sorry for myself.
00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:44.380
I guess the main point is, well, that
00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:47.360
doesn't. That wouldn't stop me from necessarily
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.579
feeling, well, I guess I can see why it would.
00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:52.820
But it's still the situation, still the situation,
00:38:52.820 --> 00:38:53.120
even though other people's may be worse. It's
00:38:53.120 --> 00:38:56.400
still my own situation in that case. I don't
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.500
know. I give her a little bit of grace
00:38:59.500 --> 00:38:59.800
if it's true, but that's assuming it's true.
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.800
Like, I don't doubt that the people died and
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.300
I don't doubt that it was hard on her. Whether
00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:04.600
that was why she was an asshole to her people,
00:39:04.600 --> 00:39:07.679
she might have just been an asshole to her people.
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.889
It just so happened this other stuff might have
00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:13.469
just been going on. I don't know. Yeah, it sounds
00:39:13.469 --> 00:39:13.769
like she's kind of excessively spicy, right?
00:39:13.769 --> 00:39:17.309
Just in general. I
00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:17.609
think that's probably what's going on here. She
00:39:17.609 --> 00:39:18.710
should probably take up hunting and go shoot
00:39:18.710 --> 00:39:21.130
some animals. That's where... Right. Don't take
00:39:21.130 --> 00:39:21.430
it out on your staff. Yeah, yeah. Go shoot something
00:39:21.430 --> 00:39:22.769
that can bite. Then that'll keep you
00:39:22.769 --> 00:39:24.750
busy. Sinema was also rough to her
00:39:24.750 --> 00:39:27.469
staff or something like that. Yeah.
00:39:27.469 --> 00:39:30.349
They seem to do this for women they don't seem
00:39:30.349 --> 00:39:33.199
to do this for men. I haven't read articles oh
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.179
this guy is very and I guess that's true
00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.760
and I guess yeah I guess the question
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.320
is yeah. Bill Clinton was an... Yeah
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.519
nobody knows. When I, so I had a friend
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.599
he worked in the West Wing of the White House.
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.679
He's a former cartoonist. And he ended up becoming
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.559
a speechwriter for Bill Clinton. And at that
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:56.859
time, my cartoons appeared regularly in The Washington
00:39:56.859 --> 00:40:00.579
Post. And I did a cartoon that the president
00:40:00.579 --> 00:40:03.699
didn't care for. And Bill Clinton walked into
00:40:03.699 --> 00:40:06.119
my friend's office and threw the paper on the
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.340
desk. And he said, you tell your friend to go
00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:12.260
fuck himself. What? So he calls me up and he
00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:16.960
goes, and he's like, the president of the United
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.860
States is pissed at you. Oh shit. Like, that's
00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:25.139
not good. This man can kill me legally. Right?
00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:25.960
Like, it's not good. So I was proud and terrified
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.800
at the same time. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, but
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:33.900
anyway, obviously here I am, everything's fine.
00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:40.500
But by all accounts, he's, I mean,
00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:43.380
they're all like that, right? They all
00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:46.440
have spicy tempers. And there are exceptions
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:46.740
like George W. Bush apparently was like a serious
00:40:46.740 --> 00:40:48.579
pleasure to work for. Everybody loved to work
00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:53.730
for him. He was a sweetheart. Donald Trump, a
00:40:53.730 --> 00:40:56.150
lot of people who were close to him for years
00:40:56.150 --> 00:41:00.809
in the Trump organization, like his personal
00:41:00.809 --> 00:41:03.449
assistant, adored him and said that he was always
00:41:03.449 --> 00:41:06.050
very kind and considerate to them. It's like,
00:41:06.050 --> 00:41:08.929
sometimes it's unexpected. I don't
00:41:08.929 --> 00:41:12.570
know. I guess the question is, should
00:41:12.570 --> 00:41:15.369
we care as voters? In other words, should
00:41:15.369 --> 00:41:18.650
reporters care? I care if she's competent, if
00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:22.159
she's competent at her job. Yeah, that's what
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.280
matters. And most people who are competent want
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.179
stuff done a certain way. If you have someone
00:41:27.179 --> 00:41:30.960
that's a complete screw up, like someone asked
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.539
me in the chat, Andre said, Robby, was your
00:41:34.539 --> 00:41:36.619
female boss an immigrant? No, she was just stupid.
00:41:36.619 --> 00:41:40.659
Yeah, like Mary Peltola was told at one point,
00:41:40.659 --> 00:41:42.880
she was angry when she was running for Congress
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.960
because there weren't enough signs, or maybe
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.039
in her current campaign, there weren't enough
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.179
big yard signs in southeastern Alaska. And she,
00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:51.479
according to the Times article, sent out a message
00:41:51.479 --> 00:41:55.940
to her staff and basically said, in the southeast,
00:41:55.940 --> 00:41:57.320
our yard sign game sucks. I'm like, so what?
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.320
She said that. Who cares? She's good for her. She's
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.420
noticing things. She's on top of things. Yeah she's
00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:06.159
just managing her team. Yeah what should
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.659
she say in that situation? And by the way Hitler's
00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:12.039
secretary thought Hitler was great. Boring though.
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:17.099
I don't know if you're a god man I can't remember
00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:18.960
the name of the movie but at the end of the movie
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.440
she's talking about Hitler like oh he's
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:21.800
such a great guy and everything else and realizing
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.739
what she was saying after the fact like oh my
00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:27.139
god all these people are killed and everything
00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:30.800
else. The person relationship is one thing how
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.840
the person is something else. Yeah so I don't
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.199
know. Some of this stuff just sounds like
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:36.499
she's just being a manager. Some of this other
00:42:36.499 --> 00:42:39.760
stuff might sound she's been excessive. But again
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.060
I don't know if they would write the story about
00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:42.280
a guy. Massive has a comment. You guys need bus
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:43.019
drivers and truck drivers. I want out of this
00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:45.320
hellhole and I'll gladly get Canadian residency
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.840
or citizenship if I can. You can go to a Canadian
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.380
government website, just Google it, and you can
00:42:50.380 --> 00:42:53.579
find out if you qualify for Canadian permanent
00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:56.920
residency. It's a point system. And so it has
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.619
to do with how much money you have, how many
00:43:01.619 --> 00:43:03.619
degrees you have, how many certificates you have,
00:43:03.619 --> 00:43:07.420
how many languages you speak. It definitely helps
00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:11.059
to speak French also. But there's
00:43:11.059 --> 00:43:14.099
it's actually pretty easy. It's much easier
00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:14.399
and far more direct than our immigration system
00:43:14.399 --> 00:43:15.739
which we talk about here all the time. So
00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:16.039
Phrasmatas,
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.420
what was the topic about the bodyguard trashing
00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:21.280
the lady's artwork? Who is the principal client
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.659
protectee? Kyrsten Sinema. Kyrsten Sinema.
00:43:24.659 --> 00:43:28.099
Yeah, her bodyguard was tossing her artwork into the
00:43:28.099 --> 00:43:31.519
pool. Okay, so, Phrasmatas, question for Ted
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:31.819
and Jamarl in the chat. There's a new Kenneth
00:43:31.819 --> 00:43:34.440
Branagh movie, that's always of interest to me,
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.320
set in the Soviet Union called Mayday. It was
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.050
a fun action movie. It takes place in 1988-ish.
00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:43.829
I would watch. I would check that out. And what's
00:43:43.829 --> 00:43:46.190
the name of Ken Branagh? Branagh. He's very acclaimed.
00:43:46.190 --> 00:43:48.829
P.W. Walker, men police other men. Women defend
00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:52.690
and justify bad behavior by other women unless
00:43:52.690 --> 00:43:52.990
they're better looking than them. Then the knives
00:43:52.990 --> 00:43:55.389
come out. I'm not touching that one. No, I'm
00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:57.809
not touching that either. We do have to talk
00:43:57.809 --> 00:44:00.289
about ICE in the time we have left. Evanston,
00:44:00.289 --> 00:44:02.710
Illinois, that's best known for where Northwestern
00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:04.389
University is, Northwestern University. That's
00:44:04.389 --> 00:44:06.610
just south of Chicago. Anyway, ICE was looking
00:44:06.610 --> 00:44:07.909
for a dude outside. You can't make this up outside
00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:09.960
a Mexican restaurant. They saw another dude who
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.199
looks like the guy that they're looking for.
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.119
They go up to him and they say.
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.300
Yo, we're taking
00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:20.960
you in. Let's see some ID. And the guy's like,
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.300
fuck you. I'm an American citizen. Suck my dick.
00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:26.659
Eat shit. And so they get furious and they beat
00:44:26.659 --> 00:44:30.039
the shit out of him. It attracts a crowd. They
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.019
beat him up. They break his teeth. This goes
00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:37.179
on for long enough that there's an angry crowd.
00:44:37.179 --> 00:44:39.280
According to ICE themselves, they were forced
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.280
to flee for fear of being attacked by the mob.
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:44.580
And Evanston PD is called. They show up, and
00:44:44.580 --> 00:44:47.320
you can tell from their press release that they
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.780
are pissed at ICE. The local yokels show up.
00:44:50.780 --> 00:44:52.579
They see this guy on the ground, unable to
00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:57.219
get up. He has to be sent to the hospital. And
00:44:57.219 --> 00:44:58.000
ICE claims, oh, well, we offered him medical
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:03.239
assistance, but he refused. Witnesses say nothing
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.440
like that happened. And so this was
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.440
another case of a U.S. citizen being detained,
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:07.940
beaten. This is just getting
00:45:07.940 --> 00:45:10.079
crazier every single day. And while
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:10.420
we're talking about immigration, we should probably
00:45:10.420 --> 00:45:12.139
talk about the Trump looks like he's about to
00:45:12.139 --> 00:45:15.099
roll back the Argentine beef thing. But anyway,
00:45:15.099 --> 00:45:16.699
yeah. Well, how can he can't press charges? I
00:45:16.699 --> 00:45:18.920
remember when I had a conversation with Garland
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.500
about this, it's like outrageous. Because my
00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:23.900
thing was, say for the moment that cops were
00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:26.059
there. And say for the moment ICE agents came
00:45:26.059 --> 00:45:27.920
up and the guy told them, hey, suck my dick.
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:28.220
I'm an American citizen. Show me somebody. I'm
00:45:28.220 --> 00:45:29.639
not showing you shit. I'm an American citizen.
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.300
I don't have to show you anything. And he's right,
00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:32.900
by the way. And he's right. Can the cops intervene
00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:35.619
to prevent him from being attacked or dragged
00:45:35.619 --> 00:45:35.919
away? And I remember Garland said they're probably
00:45:35.919 --> 00:45:38.320
not going to get involved. Garland used to be
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.639
a chief of a head cop of investigations and everything
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.480
else. That's outrageous. Meaning the fact that
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.400
the police department won't protect you as an
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.320
American citizen from these goons of the Trump
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.500
administration. Because they would say, well,
00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:54.539
this is a federal issue. Yeah, but I'm an American
00:45:54.539 --> 00:45:56.639
citizen. Yeah, I'm sorry. You got to work that
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.860
out. And you're a local citizen of the city of
00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:01.860
Evanston, Illinois. Yeah. Well, whether you're
00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.679
a local citizen or not, you're in their jurisdiction,
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.380
right? Yeah. It's amazing. It seems like their
00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:13.519
authority supersedes the law. I mean, we are
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.780
seeing some jurisdictional disputes of this kind
00:46:16.780 --> 00:46:17.710
around ICE increasingly, right? The Minnesota
00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:20.269
authorities have been working very hard to try
00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:20.569
to hold someone accountable for the killings
00:46:20.569 --> 00:46:22.610
of Alex Pretti and I forget the woman's name
00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:25.650
in Minnesota, who were both killed by ICE earlier
00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:28.010
this year. And they're starting to get somewhere.
00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:31.309
There's increasing examples of local authorities
00:46:31.309 --> 00:46:34.070
and local prosecutors now indicting ICE officers.
00:46:34.070 --> 00:46:38.130
In some cases, ICE sort of lets them be indicted.
00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:41.130
So there's some accountability, but it's really
00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:49.369
frustrating. Look, the thing is, what I can't
00:46:49.369 --> 00:46:51.349
get past is, again, these are unidentified random
00:46:51.349 --> 00:46:55.530
goons. The media shouldn't even say this was
00:46:55.530 --> 00:46:58.789
ICE. They should say purported ICE officers or
00:46:58.789 --> 00:46:59.089
self-identified or alleged or unidentified men
00:46:59.089 --> 00:47:05.110
claiming to be ICE officers. That should be the
00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:08.289
nomenclature in all of these stories, except
00:47:08.289 --> 00:47:08.589
when people are not wearing masks
00:47:08.589 --> 00:47:10.230
and they're presenting lawful IDs
00:47:10.230 --> 00:47:10.530
and displaying their badges. It reminds
00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:13.250
me of back when I used to go to protests in the
00:47:13.250 --> 00:47:13.659
80s and 90s in New York. You always the cops
00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.199
had these plastic elastics that they kept
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.820
by their shields. And if they were about to attack
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:23.099
us and assault us they would cover up their
00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:26.000
badge. You'd see them take the plastic elastic
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.340
and cover up their shield numbers and you'd
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be like oh here we go and I'd be
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looking for the nearest subway. It's
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just like it just should
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be in the constitution that any agent of the
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state whether you're an IRS auditor or a federal
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agent, FBI agent, you should have to present
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ID. Like if you watch videos on YouTube, there's
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tons of examples of alleged FBI agents showing
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up, refusing to present business cards, which
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anyone can print a business card, but refusing
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to show their shields and their ID. And they're
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like, well, we're from the FBI. How do I know
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that? Let me see your ID. Oh, we're not showing
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you that. Even the Gestapo presented
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their ID. That should just be the law.
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Yeah. If you need to cover up your face
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as an agent of the state, you're doing something
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wrong. True. Just as a rule. Otherwise,
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why do you need to do it? Right. Right. I mean,
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they will. I'm sorry. I don't really think they're
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in danger. Yeah. Put it this
00:48:18.449 --> 00:48:21.630
way. If they're hiding their identity,
00:48:21.630 --> 00:48:21.930
riding up in unidentified trucks and snatching
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people. And then it's like, okay, but you're
00:48:24.570 --> 00:48:27.570
in more danger doing that. Right? Like anybody
00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:27.870
in that crowd could have pulled out a gun thinking
00:48:27.870 --> 00:48:32.190
that these people were - And that's going to
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happen. It's absolutely going to happen. Yeah.
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You're beating the living daylights out
00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:38.579
of somebody. Out of an innocent man. Yeah. An
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innocent man, no less. For fun, gratuitously.
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The day after they shot someone. And so it's
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like the crowd, not knowing what is taking place,
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.980
somebody could easily pull out a gun. In Ukraine,
00:48:50.980 --> 00:48:53.480
for example, when you have those press gangs,
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:54.980
one of the videos had a guy pulling out a gun
00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:56.380
because of the press gang in order to disperse
00:48:56.380 --> 00:48:59.079
them from grabbing somebody. Okay, that could
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happen in the U.S., especially if you don't
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know who the hell the people are. Yeah. I mean,
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it's just outrageous. You're hanging out at a
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Mexican restaurant? How cliche. I know. I know.
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It actually does. I love Mexican food, and it
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really does make me think twice. It makes me
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:15.880
also feel like, is going to a Mexican restaurant
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a political act now? I know. I know. The ICE
00:49:19.619 --> 00:49:21.820
thing is disturbing. It really is. Until
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there's consequences, it will continue. And there
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won't be. Guys, thanks so much for tuning in.
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We'll be back tomorrow for the full two-hour
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show, 9 to 11 a.m. Eastern time for DeProgram.
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Please stay tuned for TMI with Ted Rall and Manila
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Chan. That's coming up right now. Thank you very
00:49:39.099 --> 00:49:41.280
much, Jamarl. And thank you, Robby. See you soon.
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Have a good one, guys.