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one of the new things out is AI. We're recording
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this end of twenty twenty five. It'll be aired twenty
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brand new but still kind of new. What about combining
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Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome David Teaster, the
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product marketing director at Satellite. It is a new product.
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It's the world's first pet centric AI and E caller.
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Welcome David, Thanks so much for having me.
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Thrilled to have you on this show. What does AI
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and E stand for? We know AI, but what is
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the E part?
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Yeah, so that's a wonderful question. So obviously AI, as
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you said, we all know it artificial intelligence. The E
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is more about electronic and it's just to say that
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this is a hardware product that also works with AI.
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So the AI is kind of more software related, whereas
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the hardware. The E caller is an electronic device that
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helps track your dog's different metrics so that the AI
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has more data to work off of.
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Okay, and what does the pet centric AI mean? And
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how is this different from traditional pet tech?
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So the reason we say pet centric, well, I should
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think about which of those two questions to start with.
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Maybe we can start with how it's different from traditional
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pet tech. I would say with traditional pet tech, you're
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looking more at things that do more simple kind of functions,
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and while that's been expanding in recent years similar products
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like ours, I think adding more AI functions into it
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takes it to the next level. So what differentiates it
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more is with traditional pet tech, you had devices that
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just kind of help you interact with your pet, whereas
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with Satellite we're looking to combine everything into one spot
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where you have hardware and software working together, because really
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we want to make sure that every pet is connected, protected,
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cared for, and safe. And so that's something that we're
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building towards with all the different products that we're releasing.
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And as you said, we've got a new product already.
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Our first product launched back in April of this year,
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the Satellite Caller, which provides a lot of different functions
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for people, including virtual fencing also known as geo fencing
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or GPS fencing, which is training based boundaries that you
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set up via the app, and then it gives feedback
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to your dog through the collar through a vibration, a
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whistle or something to help keep your dog in those
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safe limits. But at the same time, we have sensors
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inside that track when your dog's moving and when your
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dog's resting to start giving you those insights into your
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dog's behavior and activity patterns. Similar to the way that smart
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wearables work for people, we can actually log these different
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changes over time and then you get this pattern based.
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What we're looking to do in twenty twenty six, especially
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because we're looking to expand out our AI functions, is
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that it will actually one have more specific algorithmic breakdowns
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to what type of activity your pet is undergoing. So
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right now our products are specific to dogs, so it
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should be able to break down how much your dog
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is walking versus running, versus jumping, versus resting versus you know,
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licking or even shaking its head. And so that's one
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aspect of what we're looking at with the AI. On
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top of that, we hope to be able to give
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reports that reference all this different data to help give
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you kind of a brief overview into what's going on
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with your dog. And then on top of that too,
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we actually have an LLN inside our application that you
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can ask it questions and it will be able to
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refer to this data that it's collected as well as
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the information that you've given it when you registered in
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the app and start giving you better insights into your
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pets overall well being.
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It's amazing what technology can do. That sounds amazing. So
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a couple of comments, So it sounds like in a
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sense the collar is what is I don't know. I
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think it's quarm that the ring that people wear. I
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don't wear one, but there's a ring that senses your
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you know, people's sleep and health and all of that.
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It sounds like the data is similar to that, but
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for your dog. Is that compare?
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Yeah, I think that's a good way to kind of
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compare it. Because actually our founders their background was in
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smart wearables for people. They were working for a maze fit,
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which is one of the big smart wearable companies, and
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they wanted to bring these same kind of information and
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insights to the pet space because I can track my
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own health and see these patterns and see what's going
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on and I know what it means like this changes.
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But with your dog there's an extra step because your
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dog can't give you the context of what was going
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on or communicate what it encountered through what your dog
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encountered throughout the day. So I think the AI gives
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us this extra bit of context and this pattern recognition
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that really helps us know what's going on with our
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dogs and helps us see immediately when they're not feeling
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their best.
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Okay, so let's break it down for people that are
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don't understand tech or little late getting onto AI. So
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the electronic part would be any vibrations or sounds to
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kind of alert your dog right.
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In the past, Yeah, that has been I'd say in
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our case, it's more just related to the fact that
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it has the sensors and it can kind of record
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all this data. We have different products coming out in Europe.
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We already launched the Satellite Caller Go, which is a
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smaller version that doesn't have quite all the virtual fencing functions,
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but it's much smaller and it can fit dogs of
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more sizes, but it does still have the sensors inside
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of it to help you see what's going on with
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your dog, what kind of activity they have. A lot
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of times, what's going on is these are also GPS
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tracking devices, so you can actually keep track of where
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your dog is. So I'd say, if we wanted to
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put it kind of simply, what's going on here is
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with the caller go, you know where your dog is,
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what your dog is doing, and ostensibly, with AI, how
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your dog is feeling.
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Do you think this is a little different, but listening
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to this information, do you think at some point when
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ugs are chipped, they will, you know, have AI and
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the chips so that if your dog is lost, you
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could actually look at the chip information and find where
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they are.
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I think that's something that would be definitely ideal for
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a lot of people right now. I think the limitation
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is kind of how you power a device like that
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once it's subdermal, because it's so small. But you know,
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there's all different ways that you might be able to
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make that happen, and it would be people much smarter
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than me figuring out how to make that work. But
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I think right now we're mostly looking at tracking colleagues
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because these are warn't externally and then they can be recharged,
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whereas something subdermal, I think would have the challenge of
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keeping it powered so that it can transmit a signal
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at all times, and then how do you recharge it
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if the battery runs out right?
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Exactly exactly? Okay, So let's talk about how the ecolor
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and AI work together. So the data that's collected are
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you know, posture, movement, vocalization, breathing, sleep, activity levels. How
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does the AI turn this data into useful insights for
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dog pet parents.
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Yeah, that's a wonderful question. And I would say where
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machine learning in general, but especially with the advent of LLMS,
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where this type of technology really excels in my mind,
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is really just like iterating through repetitive information, detecting patterns
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and then highlighting changes in those patterns. So with LLMS
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that becomes like very conversational thing, and then you can
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ask it questions that can actually respond, whereas with the
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data iteration, it can actually process things very very quickly
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and be able to figure out when something's different. Well, asa,
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I figure it out. But identify would be a better
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way to phrase that. It's able to identify when there's
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a sudden change. Now we can already do that with
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ourselves with our own smart wearables, and if you use
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a traditional activity tracker, you can do that yourself too,
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and swipe through the screens and just see, Okay, here's
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how much activity they had last week. Here's the bar graph.
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For how much activity they had this week, here's the
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bar graph for this week, Oh why did it suddenly dip?
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can kind of start granulating that data and actually identifying
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these things even better and actually giving you a comprehensive report,
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so you don't have to swipe through that data all
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by yourself and try to figure out what the patterns are.
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It can actually highlight where the changes have happened. And
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part of what we're looking to do with our future
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version of the pet Sence AI, which we're getting ready
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to update, is that it will actually give a report
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and a health score that lets you know and just
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kind of gives you a week by week update of
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what's going on with your pet and what's changed compared
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to last week. And then when you see that, you
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know that maybe there's something going on, and you can
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get some advice on what could be some causes. And
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if you think it's serious enough or even potentially serious enough,
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then that's when you start looping in your veterinarian.
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Okay, So I can see mostly positive little bit of
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uh ohs that might happen if the you know, you know,
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they say doctor Google right, So absolutely, and I have
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talked to a lot of veterinarians, and most of them
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love this information. I mean you could look at the data.
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I mean if the data is just a sign, it
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just gives you information and it's a way, like you said,
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to see patterns and so forth. I mean there could
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be a dip which could be something, or there could
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be nothing, and people might think, well, I don't need
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to do my annual that appointment because everything's going as is.
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So where do you see the challenges for people understanding
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the information well enough to realize it's not a substitute
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for you know, seeing your veb.
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Yeah, I think that is always a concern, and you're absolutely,
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in my mind, one hundred percent correct to highlight that
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because to my mind, where it's helpful is for getting
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that early care. When you identify these problems early, then
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you're not doing that that visit in the middle of
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the night that costs you one to two thousand dollars
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to do a surgery because your dog's been feeling bad
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for four days but you didn't realize that they had
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swallowed something while you weren't watching them, you know, like
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as a random example.
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No, that's happened, It's happened to me and dog get
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into stuff that's that's messy where they shouldn't, and it's
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easy for them to follow something and not realizing. I
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had one friend who had a store and she didn't
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realize her dog had swallowed some some ribbon until she
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saw it coming out of his tail.
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Yeah, if you're lucky, it's a mundane thing and you're
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just like, oh, when did they get into the string?
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I'm just seeing that in there when they went to
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the bathroom, and you know it passes through, but you know,
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those things could get impacted. And while the activity data
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that we have now wouldn't necessarily tell you your dog
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swallowed something, no, get help, it would identify that the
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behavior patterns shifted and your dog maybe isn't feeling very
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well because your dog's not doing the things they normally
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do at this time of day. Like I see it
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more as an early warning system, and then with the
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AI we're looking to actually have it also give alerts
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when there's sudden changes in behavior, especially sudden extreme changes
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in behavior, to help you get that taken care of
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early before it becomes a more significant problem.
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Okay, so what would a real world example look like
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in your system? So say you know, I was didn't
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notice and my I don't know my dog cracked as
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tooth or so this is another thing that happened to me,
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cracked a tooth. Would there be any notification? Would I
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notice that on the AI device or is there maybe
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I have a better example.
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So yeah, that's a really great example actually, because I
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think it comes back to what does your dog do
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when they've cracked their tooth? Well, a lot of times
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your dog's not going to be eating the way they
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normally do. And while our current product line may not
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necessarily identify that, what it would notice is like the
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change in activity levels or the change in energy, the
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fact that your dog is resting more than before, or
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your dog's making different sounds than normal, you know, possibly
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detecting barking or whimpering. I think we're also looking at
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like headshakes and licking as examples. So these changes in behavior,
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if it suddenly has a huge uptick, it would actually
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give you an alert to let you know, hey, something's
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different than before. Maybe you should look into this. And
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if you ask it in the app, you could ask
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it what are some potential causes, and it would be
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able to give some suggestions on things to look at,
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and you could possibly give just kind of a quick
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exam yourself just to see, like where does the problem
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seem to be originating. And from there, I think you've
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got a lot more options and you'd be able to
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identify that. I think I would hope at a much
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earlier stage than if you're just waiting for why isn't
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my dog getting up and running around like normal? He
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seems really sluggish today, But actually he's been sluggish for
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several days. You just it just wasn't noticeable until day
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four or five.
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Understood, Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
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be right back. Real people, real stories.
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Pett Life Radio Headline Radio.
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Pet Live Radio dot com.
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Welcome back everyone. We're talking to David Teaster. He is
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the product marketing director at Satellite AI and we're talking
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about their new collar. So let's talk about first safety
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because you know, we always want to make sure our
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dogs are safe. Is the caller safe? I know there's
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some you know, vibrations that the dog can feel and
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so forth, but is it absolutely safe and also is
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it for all dogs all sizes.
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So wonderful questions on both those sides, I think it.
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I mean, anytime you've gone an electronic device, you know
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there's a battery, then there's always room for something unexpected.
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But everything we have is CE certified, so it meets
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standard safety measures on that regard, so there's no necessarily
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more concern about that than you know, any other electronic
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device to my mind. Also, when we're looking at it,
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you know, we've designed it with the materials to make
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sure that everything's kind of too safe and non toxic.
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So even if your dog like decides to somehow get
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at it and use the collar as a chew toy,
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it's pretty well insulated and it shouldn't cause any problems
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on that side, even if they swallowed, say a small
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piece of it. You know, obviously that's not ideal, but
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it shouldn't have any toxicity to it either, though if
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that did happen, just for the record, make sure to
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get that check out and don't let your dog get
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at it anymore because it's an electronic device. But on
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the other side too, it seems like you're also asking
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specifically about the feedback functions. Yes, so yeah, so we've
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got the whistle, we've got the vibration, and then optionally
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for dogs but like a really strong prey drive, we
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have what we call static correction. This is only for
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the original satellite collar, and I'll address first. The original
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satellite caller is for big dogs because it's it's rather hefty,
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it's got two satellite transmitters in there, it's got the
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vibration motor and all these different things. So it does
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have an optional static correction. But I hate to mislead
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people because some people would hear that and say it's
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a shock collar, but it's to my mind, it's really not,
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because it's more of just kind of a physical stimulus,
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Like I've physically tried this on myself, and the idea
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behind it is just to kind of create a strong
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sensation to get your dog's attention if they're chasing something.
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And really it's completely optional because you don't have to
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install the contact points for that just for the record,
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like you can leave those off and then it wouldn't
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be able to do anything regardless of what you said
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it to. It wouldn't be able to activate accidentally or
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anything like that, which it can't do anyway, but that
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would one hundred percent remove even the smallest chance. So
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that's there. But it's more from the side of giving
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pet parents every tool we think they might need to
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keep their pets safe. And so I know, like there's
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a lot of different types of trainers that look at
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positive reinforcement versus negative and it's not really our goal
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to weigh in on that, but to give people the
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tool that they need to train their dog and keep
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their dog in safe limits.
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Got it. So for your Houdini dogs that are you know,
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constantly you know, escaping your yard or what have you.
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Even if you are living in rural areas, it's still
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a good tool. I mean, you think, and let me backcheck.
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I had a Houdini dog, but it was in the city.
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So in my mind it's a lot better too. You know, Okay,
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your dog's go and I feel a little sensation rather
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than the very unfortunate alternative that your dog might be
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hit by a car exactly.
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And that's kind of where I stand on it too.
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Is again, we're giving options. We're not dictating what you
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do or don't do. The satellite caller go, it doesn't
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really even have the fencing function. So if that is
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something that bothers you, we do have a product that's
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more suitable where there's no feedback at all. Well, I
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shouldn't say that. There's what we call remote commands. So
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where the satellite caller GO is a bit different is
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you can set a virtual boundary and then it's not
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a fence in the sense that it doesn't keep your
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dog within it, because the virtual fence is enforced by training.
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But with the virtual boundary, you set up that limit
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and then you get an alert to your cell phone
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if your dog goes past it, and then you can
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actually press a button in the app to play an
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audio command like a whistle or a good dog or
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a go home, which sensibly your dog goes past that boundary,
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it would be go home, and then when they go back,
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you play the good dog.
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Okay, So how would the pet parent get started with
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the satellite AI caller.
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Yeah, so with the satellite caller it depends which one
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you go for, the satellite caller or the satellite caller GO,
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but mostly it would be the same way you'd buy
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the product, you'd receive it, you'd get it set up.
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It works via GPS, which is supported by five global
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navigation satellite systems, which includes the United States Global Positioning System,
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which is what we usually call GPS. So you get
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that and you'll have to register with the account. You'll
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set up an account through the app, which you would
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download from either the Google Play Store or the App
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store on Apple. We have QR codes on our website
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that you could also use to scan that to find
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the appropriate page for satellite, and then you would just
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go through the setup process. It would require a subscription
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because it needs to be able to transmit data over
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cell you a signal to be able to send and
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receive at a distance. It can also connect via Bluetooth
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for sinking, but that's not really ideal for tracking scenarios.
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That would be more of just sinking up the health
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metrics and so you get sorry with that. It would
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just be you know, hardware app set up and then
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you'd enter the information about your dog. So what's your
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dog's name, You could cheer your dog's birthday, you could
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say what the breed is. The LLM is primarily trained
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off of our own breed database, which is basically to
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give it a baseline, but after that, because the college
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is actually recording your dog's metrics specifically, it would be
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able to kind of learn that, and then actually as
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part of the process too, you would take a picture
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of your dog and then the AI would try to
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identify your dog's breed, which you can correct if you
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think the AI is not quite right, but it would
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kind of automatically say, oh, your dog looks like it's
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this breed. Is that correct? And then you're pretty much
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good to go from there. You've got the location tracking,
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you can start setting up fences, you can start tracking
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activity and rest patterns, and then even start asking questions
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from the AI.
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Okay, thanks, What would you say? So the go caller
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has a lot more features. What are you most proud
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of in the satellite AI callers?
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Yeah, so with the satellite callers just in general, I
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think with all of our products, I'm just excited for
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the ability that we're going to be able to get
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pet parents to keep their dogs safe and know what's
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going on with them. I mean, I had a lot
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of different dogs growing up, and there's so many different
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I mean, they bring so much love to you and
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it's such a special relationship, but when you lose them
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for whatever reasons, that's a very specific kind of heartbreak
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when they run off and they don't come home. You know,
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when they get sick and you didn't even know anything
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was wrong, and then you know you have to take
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them to the vet and you walk out without them.
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That's harmful, that's heavy, and you miss them every single day.
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And so what I think one of the big benefits
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of the products that Satellite is doing is that it
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can help you just have that time with your pet
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and keep you together with your dog for as long
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as possible. You get those early warnings, you find them
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when they get lost, Like to me, are these are
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the two biggest tragedies that I had with my dogs
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as they either got sick or they ran off. And
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if you're lucky, you get them back. And when you're
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not lucky, then you just grieve them and remember.
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Them well spoken. And most of us pet parents have
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been there and it's tragic. Whether it's something sudden or
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it's something that's ongoing, it's just it's horrible.
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And it's not even because you did anything wrong right right,
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it's just because your dog's being a dog, and part
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of being a dog is getting into things that you
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wouldn't expect.
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Yep, and they don't live as long as we would like,
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so absolutely. Okay, So let's talk about another thing that
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pet parents are concerned about. How does Satellite AI ensure
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data accuracy, privacy and responsible use of the pet information?
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Because there does have to be some information input probably
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I don't know, you know, it's satellite, probably addresses and
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you know, something that are personal and some people, some
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of the dog parents out there listening, might say, I
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don't want to put all that personal information in Where
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does it go? Is it secure?
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Yeah, So that's a good question. I think data security
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is a huge concern for a lot of people. So
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for Europe, everything we do like complies with the GDPR.
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For the US, we're also complying with Data safety and
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storage was there and we're also working with AWS Amazon
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Web Services, so everything's actually stored on their servers and
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processed through them. So's it's protected by a company that
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I think, like you know, people are already familiar with
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and that we already trust a lot of our data
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to Already it's not necessarily going to satellite directly in
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terms of like all the details what we sometimes are
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able to collect via our privacy policies. Is just kind
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of anonymized data of just dogs in general of how
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much they're running, but it kind of breaks down by category.
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It's not specific to any any individual from what I'm
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aware of.
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Okay, thanks, I will say this is.
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A my area of expertise, so there could be some
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details there. I'm not personally qualified to get into that
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too deeply.
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Got it. But the data is secure for the most part.
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Yes, I would be confidence to say that the data
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is secure and that personal information is pretty safe.
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Okay, we talked about the basic collar than the go color.
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What are some other products that you have.
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I mean, we're still a pretty new brand, so really
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the satellite callers are first entrigu into the market. And
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that's the really like cutting edge one that just like
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we packed every feature we could kind of think of
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into it. The caller goes designed to be a bit
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more accessible and then fit more more types of dogs.
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One thing I do forget to mention because I think
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it's a huge well it's not the hugest feature, but
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I think it's helpful. It's like we actually put reflective
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lining and reflective stitching onto the products to make your
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dog more visible in low light environs, so it helps
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keep your dog safe in those regards too.
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Okay, and you know I asked this earlier, but I
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asked it with another question, so I don't know if
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it was answered. Sorry about that. What sized dog does
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the collar fit? Because you mentioned one is for like
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a larger dog. How small can you go?
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That's a great question. So for the original satellite collar,
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I think right now the smallest we get is about
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fourteen inches. If you use the hook and loop strap,
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the valcro style strap, then it can go about fourteen inches.
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But we actually have a fdlock magnetic clasp on it
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that's a lot more convenient for that when it goes
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down to seventeen inches. And that's for the original.
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Collar, So fourteen inches I think that's what like about
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forty pounds generally.
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Generally, I would say so those certain smaller breeds would
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maybe have a thick enough neck for it. Okay, for
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the satellite collar, go, well, one the device can kind
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of clip onto almost any dog collar, but the one
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that we include the band, I think that one goes
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to about thirteen and a half inches.
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Okay, and how large, Yeah, I.
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Believe for the collar it's thirty two inches is the maximum.
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Quite big, okay, or a thick neck with your bulldogs,
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but basically so your collar bits most dog sizes and
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for the little tiny dogs, they're like you know, pocket dogs,
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they don't really run out. But would you at some
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point do you see Satellite AI making a smaller collar
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for those little, small but frisky dogs like your Jack Russell.
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Yes, I do think we would be very interested in
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expanding into smaller dogs. Part of it is just because
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we have so many features packed into it that you know,
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when you're putting so much tech into one device, that
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device kind of winds up being large. So that's why
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it's a bit more suited for big dogs. But yes,
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I mean, we really want to have an overarching coverage
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system for every kind of pet that people get, you know,
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big dogs, medium dogs, small dogs. And then in a
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few we'd like to expand into cats as well, to
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be able to keep them safe and protected.
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Yeah, that would be good because they are devious creatures.
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Well, they're also not always the most communicative when something's wrong.
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My other show is Catitudes, so we talk about that
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they're stoic creatures and that's just an ongoing concern for
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cat pet parents because they hide their illness as well.
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I mean I've experienced it with my cats where one
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was near debt. They want one hospital wanted to put
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them down. I was like no, and took them to
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another hospital the next day. And that was what I
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think fourteen years ago. So he's fine, but they don't
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tell you and there's a problem. So this for cats
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would be fantastic.
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Yeah, I mean for dogs it's already quite difficult because
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you know, sometimes they don't want to trouble the pack,
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so they'll kind of run and hide the suffer and isolation.
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But cats are even worse.
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Yeah, they're hard, they're not little dogs, as we say,
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and they're definitely challenging. Our dog parents that are listening,
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or pet parents in general that are listening, could take
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away just one benefit from using satellite AI, what would
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you want that to be?
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I would say that the overarching thing now and in
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the future is going to be just the insights that
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you can get into keeping your dog healthy and active.
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Okay, thank you, David. Where can people find more information
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on satellite AI and purchase the caller?
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Oh that's a wonderful question. So I'd say the best
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place to go would be our website, satellite dot com.
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That's s A T E l l AI dot com,
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So satellite dot com would be like the best place
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to go for more information. You can find what you
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want there and then we've got our information as well.
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We've got the products for sale there as well. You
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can order and have it shipped that way. The app
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download codes are there, you can register the telecom plan everything,
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so you know, if you're looking for a one stop
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to find out about our product and get it, and
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satellite dot com is the place to go.
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Okay, thank you so much for coming on Best Bets
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for Pets and sharing all this fabulous information on Satellite
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AI and congrats for being the world's first pet centric
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AI and E caller.
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Thank you so much for having me. It's a real
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pleasure to be here. I've really enjoyed talking to you
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as well, and I hope that we can really make
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a difference.
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I think you will be Thanks again. I hope everyone
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enjoyed this episode. It's amazing where technology is going and
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how it can help our dogs. So please be sure
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to check out Satellite AI. I think it's a wonderful
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product and so innovative. I want to thank David for
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coming on Best Bets for Pets, Thanks to everyone listening
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and being part of Best Bets for Pets for fifteen years.
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Thanks to my cat crew, Dennis, Charlotte and Molly for
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me on my toes. And thank you so much to
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my producer Mark Winter for all he does to make
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our shows sound amazing. And keep listening because you never
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know what will happen next on Best Bets for Pets.
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Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome David Teaster, the
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product marketing director at Satellite. It is a new product.
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It's the world's first pet centric AI and E caller.
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Welcome David, Thanks so much for having me.
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Thrilled to have you on this show. What does AI
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and E stand for? We know AI, but what is
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the E part?
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Yeah, so that's a wonderful question. So obviously AI, as
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you said, we all know it artificial intelligence. The E
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is more about electronic and it's just to say that
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this is a hardware product that also works with AI.
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So the AI is kind of more software related, whereas
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the hardware. The E caller is an electronic device that
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helps track your dog's different metrics so that the AI
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has more data to work off of.
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Okay, and what does the pet centric AI mean? And
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how is this different from traditional pet tech?
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So the reason we say pet centric, well, I should
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think about which of those two questions to start with.
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Maybe we can start with how it's different from traditional
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pet tech. I would say with traditional pet tech, you're
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looking more at things that do more simple kind of functions,
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and while that's been expanding in recent years similar products
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like ours, I think adding more AI functions into it
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takes it to the next level. So what differentiates it
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more is with traditional pet tech, you had devices that
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just kind of help you interact with your pet, whereas
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with Satellite we're looking to combine everything into one spot
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where you have hardware and software working together, because really
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we want to make sure that every pet is connected, protected,
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cared for, and safe. And so that's something that we're
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building towards with all the different products that we're releasing.
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Our first product launched back in April of this year,
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the Satellite Caller, which provides a lot of different functions
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for people, including virtual fencing also known as geo fencing
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or GPS fencing, which is training based boundaries that you
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set up via the app, and then it gives feedback
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to your dog through the collar through a vibration, a
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whistle or something to help keep your dog in those
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safe limits. But at the same time, we have sensors
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inside that track when your dog's moving and when your
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dog's resting to start giving you those insights into your
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dog's behavior and activity patterns. Similar to the way that smart
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wearables work for people, we can actually log these different
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changes over time and then you get this pattern based.
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that it will actually one have more specific algorithmic breakdowns
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to what type of activity your pet is undergoing. So
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right now our products are specific to dogs, so it
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should be able to break down how much your dog
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is walking versus running, versus jumping, versus resting versus you know,
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licking or even shaking its head. And so that's one
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aspect of what we're looking at with the AI. On
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top of that, we hope to be able to give
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reports that reference all this different data to help give
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refer to this data that it's collected as well as
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the information that you've given it when you registered in
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the app and start giving you better insights into your
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pets overall well being.
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It's amazing what technology can do. That sounds amazing. So
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a couple of comments, So it sounds like in a
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sense the collar is what is I don't know. I
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think it's quarm that the ring that people wear. I
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don't wear one, but there's a ring that senses your
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you know, people's sleep and health and all of that.
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compare it. Because actually our founders their background was in
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smart wearables for people. They were working for a maze fit,
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which is one of the big smart wearable companies, and
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they wanted to bring these same kind of information and
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insights to the pet space because I can track my
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own health and see these patterns and see what's going
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on and I know what it means like this changes.
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dog can't give you the context of what was going
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on or communicate what it encountered through what your dog
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encountered throughout the day. So I think the AI gives
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us this extra bit of context and this pattern recognition
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that really helps us know what's going on with our
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dogs and helps us see immediately when they're not feeling
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their best.
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Okay, so let's break it down for people that are
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don't understand tech or little late getting onto AI. So
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the electronic part would be any vibrations or sounds to
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all this data. We have different products coming out in Europe.
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smaller version that doesn't have quite all the virtual fencing functions,
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more sizes, but it does still have the sensors inside
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of it to help you see what's going on with
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your dog, what kind of activity they have. A lot
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tracking devices, so you can actually keep track of where
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put it kind of simply, what's going on here is
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with the caller go, you know where your dog is,
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what your dog is doing, and ostensibly, with AI, how
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your dog is feeling.
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Do you think this is a little different, but listening
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to this information, do you think at some point when
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ugs are chipped, they will, you know, have AI and
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the chips so that if your dog is lost, you
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a lot of people right now. I think the limitation
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is kind of how you power a device like that
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once it's subdermal, because it's so small. But you know,
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there's all different ways that you might be able to
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make that happen, and it would be people much smarter
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than me figuring out how to make that work. But
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because these are warn't externally and then they can be recharged,
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keeping it powered so that it can transmit a signal
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at all times, and then how do you recharge it
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Exactly exactly? Okay, So let's talk about how the ecolor
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and AI work together. So the data that's collected are
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you know, posture, movement, vocalization, breathing, sleep, activity levels. How
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does the AI turn this data into useful insights for
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dog pet parents.
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is really just like iterating through repetitive information, detecting patterns
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and then highlighting changes in those patterns. So with LLMS
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that becomes like very conversational thing, and then you can
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ask it questions that can actually respond, whereas with the
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data iteration, it can actually process things very very quickly
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and be able to figure out when something's different. Well, asa,
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I figure it out. But identify would be a better
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way to phrase that. It's able to identify when there's
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a sudden change. Now we can already do that with
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ourselves with our own smart wearables, and if you use
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a traditional activity tracker, you can do that yourself too,
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and swipe through the screens and just see, Okay, here's
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how much activity they had last week. Here's the bar graph.
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bar graph for this week, Oh why did it suddenly dip?
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can kind of start granulating that data and actually identifying
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these things even better and actually giving you a comprehensive report,
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so you don't have to swipe through that data all
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by yourself and try to figure out what the patterns are.
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part of what we're looking to do with our future
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version of the pet Sence AI, which we're getting ready
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to update, is that it will actually give a report
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and a health score that lets you know and just
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kind of gives you a week by week update of
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what's going on with your pet and what's changed compared
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to last week. And then when you see that, you
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know that maybe there's something going on, and you can
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get some advice on what could be some causes. And
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if you think it's serious enough or even potentially serious enough,
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then that's when you start looping in your veterinarian.
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uh ohs that might happen if the you know, you know,
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they say doctor Google right, So absolutely, and I have
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talked to a lot of veterinarians, and most of them
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love this information. I mean you could look at the data.
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I mean if the data is just a sign, it
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just gives you information and it's a way, like you said,
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to see patterns and so forth. I mean there could
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be a dip which could be something, or there could
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be nothing, and people might think, well, I don't need
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to do my annual that appointment because everything's going as is.
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So where do you see the challenges for people understanding
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the information well enough to realize it's not a substitute
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for you know, seeing your veb.
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in my mind, one hundred percent correct to highlight that
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because to my mind, where it's helpful is for getting
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that early care. When you identify these problems early, then
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you're not doing that that visit in the middle of
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the night that costs you one to two thousand dollars
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to do a surgery because your dog's been feeling bad
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for four days but you didn't realize that they had
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swallowed something while you weren't watching them, you know, like
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as a random example.
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into stuff that's that's messy where they shouldn't, and it's
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easy for them to follow something and not realizing. I
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had one friend who had a store and she didn't
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realize her dog had swallowed some some ribbon until she
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saw it coming out of his tail.
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just like, oh, when did they get into the string?
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I'm just seeing that in there when they went to
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the bathroom, and you know it passes through, but you know,
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those things could get impacted. And while the activity data
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that we have now wouldn't necessarily tell you your dog
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swallowed something, no, get help, it would identify that the
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behavior patterns shifted and your dog maybe isn't feeling very
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well because your dog's not doing the things they normally
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do at this time of day. Like I see it
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more as an early warning system, and then with the
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AI we're looking to actually have it also give alerts
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when there's sudden changes in behavior, especially sudden extreme changes
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in behavior, to help you get that taken care of
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early before it becomes a more significant problem.
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in your system? So say you know, I was didn't
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notice and my I don't know my dog cracked as
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tooth or so this is another thing that happened to me,
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cracked a tooth. Would there be any notification? Would I
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notice that on the AI device or is there maybe
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So yeah, that's a really great example actually, because I
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think it comes back to what does your dog do
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when they've cracked their tooth? Well, a lot of times
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your dog's not going to be eating the way they
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normally do. And while our current product line may not
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necessarily identify that, what it would notice is like the
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change in activity levels or the change in energy, the
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fact that your dog is resting more than before, or
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your dog's making different sounds than normal, you know, possibly
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detecting barking or whimpering. I think we're also looking at
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like headshakes and licking as examples. So these changes in behavior,
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if it suddenly has a huge uptick, it would actually
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give you an alert to let you know, hey, something's
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different than before. Maybe you should look into this. And
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if you ask it in the app, you could ask
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it what are some potential causes, and it would be
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able to give some suggestions on things to look at,
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and you could possibly give just kind of a quick
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exam yourself just to see, like where does the problem
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seem to be originating. And from there, I think you've
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got a lot more options and you'd be able to
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identify that. I think I would hope at a much
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earlier stage than if you're just waiting for why isn't
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my dog getting up and running around like normal? He
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seems really sluggish today, But actually he's been sluggish for
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several days. You just it just wasn't noticeable until day
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four or five.
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Understood, Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
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be right back. Real people, real stories.
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Pett Life Radio Headline Radio.
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Pet Live Radio dot com.
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Welcome back everyone. We're talking to David Teaster. He is
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the product marketing director at Satellite AI and we're talking
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about their new collar. So let's talk about first safety
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because you know, we always want to make sure our
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dogs are safe. Is the caller safe? I know there's
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some you know, vibrations that the dog can feel and
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so forth, but is it absolutely safe and also is
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it for all dogs all sizes.
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So wonderful questions on both those sides, I think it.
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I mean, anytime you've gone an electronic device, you know
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there's a battery, then there's always room for something unexpected.
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But everything we have is CE certified, so it meets
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standard safety measures on that regard, so there's no necessarily
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more concern about that than you know, any other electronic
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device to my mind. Also, when we're looking at it,
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you know, we've designed it with the materials to make
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sure that everything's kind of too safe and non toxic.
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at it and use the collar as a chew toy,
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it's pretty well insulated and it shouldn't cause any problems
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on that side, even if they swallowed, say a small
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piece of it. You know, obviously that's not ideal, but
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it shouldn't have any toxicity to it either, though if
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that did happen, just for the record, make sure to
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get that check out and don't let your dog get
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at it anymore because it's an electronic device. But on
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the other side too, it seems like you're also asking
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specifically about the feedback functions. Yes, so yeah, so we've
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got the whistle, we've got the vibration, and then optionally
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for dogs but like a really strong prey drive, we
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have what we call static correction. This is only for
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the original satellite collar, and I'll address first. The original
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satellite caller is for big dogs because it's it's rather hefty,
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it's got two satellite transmitters in there, it's got the
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vibration motor and all these different things. So it does
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have an optional static correction. But I hate to mislead
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people because some people would hear that and say it's
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a shock collar, but it's to my mind, it's really not,
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because it's more of just kind of a physical stimulus,
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behind it is just to kind of create a strong
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sensation to get your dog's attention if they're chasing something.
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install the contact points for that just for the record,
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like you can leave those off and then it wouldn't
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be able to do anything regardless of what you said
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it to. It wouldn't be able to activate accidentally or
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anything like that, which it can't do anyway, but that
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would one hundred percent remove even the smallest chance. So
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that's there. But it's more from the side of giving
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pet parents every tool we think they might need to
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keep their pets safe. And so I know, like there's
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a lot of different types of trainers that look at
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positive reinforcement versus negative and it's not really our goal
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to weigh in on that, but to give people the
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tool that they need to train their dog and keep
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their dog in safe limits.
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Got it. So for your Houdini dogs that are you know,
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constantly you know, escaping your yard or what have you.
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Even if you are living in rural areas, it's still
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a good tool. I mean, you think, and let me backcheck.
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I had a Houdini dog, but it was in the city.
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So in my mind it's a lot better too. You know, Okay,
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your dog's go and I feel a little sensation rather
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than the very unfortunate alternative that your dog might be
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hit by a car exactly.
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And that's kind of where I stand on it too.
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Is again, we're giving options. We're not dictating what you
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do or don't do. The satellite caller go, it doesn't
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really even have the fencing function. So if that is
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something that bothers you, we do have a product that's
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more suitable where there's no feedback at all. Well, I
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shouldn't say that. There's what we call remote commands. So
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where the satellite caller GO is a bit different is
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you can set a virtual boundary and then it's not
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a fence in the sense that it doesn't keep your
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dog within it, because the virtual fence is enforced by training.
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But with the virtual boundary, you set up that limit
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and then you get an alert to your cell phone
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if your dog goes past it, and then you can
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actually press a button in the app to play an
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audio command like a whistle or a good dog or
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a go home, which sensibly your dog goes past that boundary,
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it would be go home, and then when they go back,
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you play the good dog.
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Okay, So how would the pet parent get started with
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the satellite AI caller.
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Yeah, so with the satellite caller it depends which one
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you go for, the satellite caller or the satellite caller GO,
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but mostly it would be the same way you'd buy
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the product, you'd receive it, you'd get it set up.
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It works via GPS, which is supported by five global
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navigation satellite systems, which includes the United States Global Positioning System,
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which is what we usually call GPS. So you get
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that and you'll have to register with the account. You'll
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set up an account through the app, which you would
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download from either the Google Play Store or the App
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store on Apple. We have QR codes on our website
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that you could also use to scan that to find
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the appropriate page for satellite, and then you would just
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go through the setup process. It would require a subscription
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because it needs to be able to transmit data over
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cell you a signal to be able to send and
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receive at a distance. It can also connect via Bluetooth
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for sinking, but that's not really ideal for tracking scenarios.
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That would be more of just sinking up the health
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metrics and so you get sorry with that. It would
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just be you know, hardware app set up and then
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you'd enter the information about your dog. So what's your
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dog's name, You could cheer your dog's birthday, you could
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say what the breed is. The LLM is primarily trained
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off of our own breed database, which is basically to
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give it a baseline, but after that, because the college
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is actually recording your dog's metrics specifically, it would be
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able to kind of learn that, and then actually as
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part of the process too, you would take a picture
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of your dog and then the AI would try to
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identify your dog's breed, which you can correct if you
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think the AI is not quite right, but it would
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kind of automatically say, oh, your dog looks like it's
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this breed. Is that correct? And then you're pretty much
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good to go from there. You've got the location tracking,
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you can start setting up fences, you can start tracking
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activity and rest patterns, and then even start asking questions
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from the AI.
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Okay, thanks, What would you say? So the go caller
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has a lot more features. What are you most proud
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of in the satellite AI callers?
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Yeah, so with the satellite callers just in general, I
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think with all of our products, I'm just excited for
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the ability that we're going to be able to get
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pet parents to keep their dogs safe and know what's
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going on with them. I mean, I had a lot
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of different dogs growing up, and there's so many different
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I mean, they bring so much love to you and
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it's such a special relationship, but when you lose them
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for whatever reasons, that's a very specific kind of heartbreak
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when they run off and they don't come home. You know,
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when they get sick and you didn't even know anything
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was wrong, and then you know you have to take
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them to the vet and you walk out without them.
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That's harmful, that's heavy, and you miss them every single day.
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And so what I think one of the big benefits
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of the products that Satellite is doing is that it
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can help you just have that time with your pet
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and keep you together with your dog for as long
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as possible. You get those early warnings, you find them
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when they get lost, Like to me, are these are
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the two biggest tragedies that I had with my dogs
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as they either got sick or they ran off. And
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if you're lucky, you get them back. And when you're
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not lucky, then you just grieve them and remember.
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Them well spoken. And most of us pet parents have
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been there and it's tragic. Whether it's something sudden or
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it's something that's ongoing, it's just it's horrible.
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And it's not even because you did anything wrong right right,
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it's just because your dog's being a dog, and part
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of being a dog is getting into things that you
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wouldn't expect.
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Yep, and they don't live as long as we would like,
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so absolutely. Okay, So let's talk about another thing that
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pet parents are concerned about. How does Satellite AI ensure
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data accuracy, privacy and responsible use of the pet information?
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Because there does have to be some information input probably
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I don't know, you know, it's satellite, probably addresses and
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you know, something that are personal and some people, some
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of the dog parents out there listening, might say, I
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don't want to put all that personal information in Where
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does it go? Is it secure?
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Yeah, So that's a good question. I think data security
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is a huge concern for a lot of people. So
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for Europe, everything we do like complies with the GDPR.
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For the US, we're also complying with Data safety and
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storage was there and we're also working with AWS Amazon
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Web Services, so everything's actually stored on their servers and
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processed through them. So's it's protected by a company that
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I think, like you know, people are already familiar with
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and that we already trust a lot of our data
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to Already it's not necessarily going to satellite directly in
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terms of like all the details what we sometimes are
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able to collect via our privacy policies. Is just kind
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of anonymized data of just dogs in general of how
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much they're running, but it kind of breaks down by category.
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It's not specific to any any individual from what I'm
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aware of.
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Okay, thanks, I will say this is.
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A my area of expertise, so there could be some
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details there. I'm not personally qualified to get into that
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too deeply.
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Got it. But the data is secure for the most part.
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Yes, I would be confidence to say that the data
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is secure and that personal information is pretty safe.
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Okay, we talked about the basic collar than the go color.
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What are some other products that you have.
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I mean, we're still a pretty new brand, so really
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the satellite callers are first entrigu into the market. And
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that's the really like cutting edge one that just like
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we packed every feature we could kind of think of
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into it. The caller goes designed to be a bit
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more accessible and then fit more more types of dogs.
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One thing I do forget to mention because I think
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it's a huge well it's not the hugest feature, but
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I think it's helpful. It's like we actually put reflective
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lining and reflective stitching onto the products to make your
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dog more visible in low light environs, so it helps
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keep your dog safe in those regards too.
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Okay, and you know I asked this earlier, but I
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asked it with another question, so I don't know if
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it was answered. Sorry about that. What sized dog does
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the collar fit? Because you mentioned one is for like
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a larger dog. How small can you go?
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That's a great question. So for the original satellite collar,
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I think right now the smallest we get is about
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fourteen inches. If you use the hook and loop strap,
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the valcro style strap, then it can go about fourteen inches.
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But we actually have a fdlock magnetic clasp on it
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that's a lot more convenient for that when it goes
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down to seventeen inches. And that's for the original.
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Collar, So fourteen inches I think that's what like about
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forty pounds generally.
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Generally, I would say so those certain smaller breeds would
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maybe have a thick enough neck for it. Okay, for
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the satellite collar, go, well, one the device can kind
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of clip onto almost any dog collar, but the one
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that we include the band, I think that one goes
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to about thirteen and a half inches.
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Okay, and how large, Yeah, I.
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Believe for the collar it's thirty two inches is the maximum.
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Quite big, okay, or a thick neck with your bulldogs,
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but basically so your collar bits most dog sizes and
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for the little tiny dogs, they're like you know, pocket dogs,
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they don't really run out. But would you at some
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point do you see Satellite AI making a smaller collar
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for those little, small but frisky dogs like your Jack Russell.
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Yes, I do think we would be very interested in
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expanding into smaller dogs. Part of it is just because
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we have so many features packed into it that you know,
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when you're putting so much tech into one device, that
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device kind of winds up being large. So that's why
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it's a bit more suited for big dogs. But yes,
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I mean, we really want to have an overarching coverage
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system for every kind of pet that people get, you know,
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big dogs, medium dogs, small dogs. And then in a
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few we'd like to expand into cats as well, to
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be able to keep them safe and protected.
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Yeah, that would be good because they are devious creatures.
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Well, they're also not always the most communicative when something's wrong.
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My other show is Catitudes, so we talk about that
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they're stoic creatures and that's just an ongoing concern for
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cat pet parents because they hide their illness as well.
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I mean I've experienced it with my cats where one
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was near debt. They want one hospital wanted to put
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them down. I was like no, and took them to
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another hospital the next day. And that was what I
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think fourteen years ago. So he's fine, but they don't
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tell you and there's a problem. So this for cats
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would be fantastic.
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Yeah, I mean for dogs it's already quite difficult because
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you know, sometimes they don't want to trouble the pack,
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so they'll kind of run and hide the suffer and isolation.
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But cats are even worse.
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Yeah, they're hard, they're not little dogs, as we say,
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and they're definitely challenging. Our dog parents that are listening,
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or pet parents in general that are listening, could take
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away just one benefit from using satellite AI, what would
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you want that to be?
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I would say that the overarching thing now and in
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the future is going to be just the insights that
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you can get into keeping your dog healthy and active.
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Okay, thank you, David. Where can people find more information
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on satellite AI and purchase the caller?
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Oh that's a wonderful question. So I'd say the best
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place to go would be our website, satellite dot com.
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That's s A T E l l AI dot com,
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So satellite dot com would be like the best place
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to go for more information. You can find what you
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want there and then we've got our information as well.
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We've got the products for sale there as well. You
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can order and have it shipped that way. The app
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download codes are there, you can register the telecom plan everything,
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so you know, if you're looking for a one stop
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to find out about our product and get it, and
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satellite dot com is the place to go.
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Okay, thank you so much for coming on Best Bets
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for Pets and sharing all this fabulous information on Satellite
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AI and congrats for being the world's first pet centric
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AI and E caller.
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Thank you so much for having me. It's a real
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pleasure to be here. I've really enjoyed talking to you
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as well, and I hope that we can really make
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a difference.
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I think you will be Thanks again. I hope everyone
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enjoyed this episode. It's amazing where technology is going and
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how it can help our dogs. So please be sure
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to check out Satellite AI. I think it's a wonderful
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product and so innovative. I want to thank David for
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coming on Best Bets for Pets, Thanks to everyone listening
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and being part of Best Bets for Pets for fifteen years.
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Thanks to my cat crew, Dennis, Charlotte and Molly for
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me on my toes. And thank you so much to
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my producer Mark Winter for all he does to make
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our shows sound amazing. And keep listening because you never
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know what will happen next on Best Bets for Pets.
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Let's talk bets every week on demand only on Petlight
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