00:00:10
Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
00:00:13
Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is recorded on Makeup is my therapy in love. I'm obsessed and I don't even feel.
00:00:25
Speaker 1: Guilty about it.
00:00:29
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the Daily Podcast for your Faith. I'm Lee Campbell.
00:00:34
Speaker 3: I'm Kelly mccarrant, and we were literally just talking about time of air, which makes it sound very boring.
00:00:39
Speaker 2: Well because it's mid to late May, and I can't deal saying that. I read an article, which means I saw it on Instagram.
00:00:46
Speaker 1: I saw a city on TikTok. I read this very interesting article. I don't even look at TikTok.
00:00:51
Speaker 2: The time goes fast as you get older, like it's a real science thing, because of the proportional something that you.
00:00:55
Speaker 3: Were born, the years that I have you lived or something, yes I are now or five?
00:00:59
Speaker 2: You feel like summer holidays went anyway?
00:01:01
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, but now half a year is almost part.
00:01:05
Speaker 1: It's actually terrible. Did you say who you were?
00:01:07
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm Kelly okay, And it's Q and a day, which means every mind day, we answer two of your questions, and we finish off the episode with a host tank shopping.
00:01:18
Speaker 3: List, something a reminder, something not to do. You never know what you're gonna get.
00:01:23
Speaker 2: You never know, So if you want to ask a question, look, you can email us it's you Beauty at Mama mea dot com dot are you or just slide into the you beauty Instagram dms because someone checks them and tells us about them exactly.
00:01:34
Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything?
00:01:36
Speaker 2: You ask many questions.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: Later on the episode, we have got a question from a month She's asking on behalf of her teenage daughter for advice, which is just so lovely. But first we have an email from Claire Hileen Kelly love the show. You sometimes say that you bought a product when at the chemistal shopping. Do you get sent many products from companies? If you do, why do you buy extra products? What makes you actually pay for those products? And what have you bought with your own money lately?
00:02:04
Speaker 1: Thank you so much? Claire?
00:02:06
Speaker 2: Are you my husband? Because he keeps saying why are you buying more beauty products? Look, Kelly and I probably have similar answers, but I'll go first, So, yeah, what happens is if you're in beauty media, you know whether or not your content creator or I guess this is more traditional media, you will be on PR list public relations list, and then they'll send an email saying, hey, this lip gloss is launching, do you want to try it? Or sometimes they just send it. But not every brand sends to me or to Kelly or to every publication. And also not every brand has a public relations business like company or someone working for them or an AU team necessarily exactly. And then also there's so much launching at the moment. You know, I'm obsessed with K Beauty and JA Beauty and a lot of that isn't represented professionally here with an agency or something like that. And I also just bloody love beauty products. So while we're sent a huge amount of products, and it's not just for us, it's you know, for the team to trial for other purposes aside from the podcast. We get a lot, but it's still only a tiny snippet of the industry.
00:03:11
Speaker 1: I guess.
00:03:12
Speaker 2: For example, if you're new here, I'm obsessed with Revolution Beauty, you can buy it online. You can get it at a price. Sign I don't know who does their PR if they have pr I've never been sent any.
00:03:21
Speaker 1: I buy it all.
00:03:22
Speaker 2: Like I said, I do a lot of J beauty and K beauty shopping. If I see something going viral on Instagram, like remember that deal stick foundation I loved God, I went and bought that after hunting it down, like I was like a private investigator trying to get that. And then of course I just buy the stuff. I'll always go back to when I'm not trialing some serums my my cellar water. I just love beauty, So I do buy a lot. Full transparency. I put it through my tax doesn't.
00:03:48
Speaker 1: Mean it's free though, you see.
00:03:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was probably late twenties when I realized that it's a tax deduction. But it doesn't mean you get all the money back. But still, I mean, I think it's important for me if I've seen something that I think, oh love. And also Kelly and I get sent a lot, but it might not be right for our skin type or hair type, so like I'll pass on something for blondes to Kelly, or she'll pass on something for oily skin to me. Yeah, so I mean I do buy a lot.
00:04:12
Speaker 1: What about you? I shop a lot.
00:04:14
Speaker 3: I actually think that I probably don't get as much sent to me as people assume, maybe because I'm a freelancer. Yeah, I'm not on as many PR lists. Like there are some companies that have just never sent me anything, and I'm like, well, don't.
00:04:27
Speaker 2: You want to be on Australia's biggest udio?
00:04:28
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, I'll just gone by it. Yeah.
00:04:30
Speaker 3: But the thing is is it for us to buy something, we have to genuinely want to try it. So sometimes you might notice that say I or Lee might recommend more brands, like you might see things popping up.
00:04:42
Speaker 1: Regularly through the year.
00:04:43
Speaker 3: That's because we probably are on the PR list so actually get to try all of their launchers, whereas if we're not, something has to look really cool and exciting for us to want to go out and spend down money on it. So if no one else is talking about it as well, then we're not necessarily going to want to go spend six thirty dollars on something we've never heard anything about it.
00:05:00
Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense. Yeah, And then.
00:05:02
Speaker 3: One person might be like, yeah, but what about this, Well, I don't know whereas you shop more, I guess you're like very into I herb and yeah, a beauty JD, Amazon's I am you do sometimes, but I'm huge on social media.
00:05:16
Speaker 1: I've seen something that.
00:05:17
Speaker 2: I're you're way more into that, like you buy.
00:05:20
Speaker 3: Things direct from ads like or I have to try that because I want to report back honestly as well.
00:05:27
Speaker 2: I've started to buy a few things, but I've found that a lot of those Instagram too good to be true things.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: They always are too good to be true.
00:05:33
Speaker 2: But whereas I'm like getting a script filled at you chemistware House or your price side and then I'm like, oh maybe Leane's half price or Revolution, what have you got?
00:05:41
Speaker 3: And also a PR company isn't going to send us something that's old all of a sudden, The Paulish choice bh yeah is gaining virality on.
00:05:49
Speaker 2: Tiktop because it's not new and they're not sending it.
00:05:51
Speaker 3: Well, We're going to go out and buy it to try it because they're not going to send it to us, like it's not new, why would they. They're going to send whatever new product they are launching.
00:05:59
Speaker 1: And I also.
00:06:00
Speaker 3: Think that a lot of Savy brands don't have the sort of PR Yeah.
00:06:05
Speaker 2: That's the tricky part. That's why I buy a lot of Savies is because we don't get sent a lot of savors. Not that we get sent a lot of luxury, but it's kind of that we get a lot of mid yeah med and you know now like stuff from the chemist is up to like sixty five seventy five dollars for an hour. We always wait till it's on special by Yeah. But so we're often looking for saves. That's why Kelly and I you can hear it's going COO and Kmart and the pharmacies. But no, we definitely don't get sent everything. We do get sent a lot, and I also often get asked what do we do with it all? So here at Mama Mea, we have like beauty cupboard storage cupboards, and every few times a year we clean those out and send the shampoo and conditioner and the kind of essentials to women's shelters and then anything a bit more fancy, we do like a beauty sale here and the money raised goes to Rise Up, which we're very proud ambassadors for and they help women and families out of domestic violence situations.
00:06:53
Speaker 1: I do the women's shelters a couple of times a year.
00:06:56
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, I always do hates of big bags for Share the dignity. And I also do this random thing for my girlfriends at Christmas time where they come over and I have everything out kind of like a stale, kind of like what you do at Mama Mea, and then everything goes to One year it was Dementia Australia. Last year it was a Ronald McDonald house. Because I saw that it was like anyway, that just made me feel really good.
00:07:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never just throw out products at all, God, not unless it's like burnt how skin or something.
00:07:22
Speaker 2: Yes, now it smells like mold, which is something I used on my hair yesterday. I realized it was a natural hair product I hadn't used for a while. Molds on my hair actually was mold. Anyway, after the break, a beautiful mum wants to help solve her daughter's problems, and we're here to help.
00:07:43
Speaker 3: I'd just like to say I really wish my mother had cared as much as Ruth, because Ruth has sent us a deer. My teenage daughter is really embarrassed about her body hair. She has lovely fair skin and in contrast, quite dark hair on her arms. She has lighter and finer hair on her face. I don't notice, but she says it's visible in the outdoors. She also worries about the hair she calls her sideburns. I'm seeking solutions to offer her while also reminding her she's absolutely beautiful regardless. Any wisdom would be much appreciated.
00:08:14
Speaker 2: Oh, bless her, Ruth, that's so nice. I wonder when you say eighteen, I wonder if she's like thirteen or seventeen. I guess it doesn't really matter, but I remember saying to my mum, like, my mom want to shave my legs. My mom will shaved my legs. And she's like, no, not yet. So I just went and got a razor. I didn't know how to do it. No water, no anybody, no no. I just swipe, swipe, sipe ow. And then I went to her mom. I said, Mum, my skin's really redden and he goes, oh, I'll show you how to do it properly. So, Ruth, you've got a few options. I normally have very very hairy arms. My brother and sister growing up called me Wookie the Wookie because I'm just such a yeah and I'm Scottish heritage. So while I do put gradual tann On. I've got fair skin and really dark hair. I shave my arms with a men's razor in the shower every few days. It will not grow back darker and longer. That's impossible.
00:09:00
Speaker 3: But also your arms, I've never felt them be spiky the way legs are.
00:09:04
Speaker 2: No, No, they're definitely not because it's a different type of hair. But also I literally I goes it takes me two seconds. Legs on the other hand, I wear pants a lot. I will let them literally grow like a blanket.
00:09:14
Speaker 1: I'm a bushy bit.
00:09:16
Speaker 2: But you know, with shaving or anything that removes the hair from the surface of the skin, it can't affect the root of the hair under the skin. The reason it might feel a little bit thicker or darker, well, definitely not darker, is that there's no tapered tip to the hair as it grows back. So I shave my arms. That might be a bit much for her. There's definitely options about laser, but I'll let Kelly kind of talk through that. Finishing Touch is an Australian brand that does a lot of different tools, and I've talked about the little face shaver that I keep in my car to shave my mustache, not when I'm driving, but when I'm in my car because of the light. They have lots of different little tools that could be good for the peach fuzz, which is what you say. I think the hair on the side of her face, her sideburns. I actually had hectic sideburns, like it looked like I was wearing a helmet of hair. And then in my twenties I had laser hair removal on just on the side of my face. But if she's not ready for laser, depending on the age, she could try threading and that's where they saw sort of remove the hair from the root. It's like waxing, but without the wax, and they do it with cotton thread basically. Or you could try to pilotry cream. I thought that could help. There's a really great brand called Woo Woo. It's an Australian brand and it's really sort of natural and gentle. Or you've got your.
00:10:24
Speaker 3: Nad's nevvy doesn't smell the way it used to as well. Honestly, I only was allowed to beat when I was a teenager.
00:10:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was also chewbacker, yeah, except a very fair chewbacker, you know. I'm dark when I went into the sun that you go, dear lord.
00:10:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I remember hating it and Mum wouldn't let me either, and so I tried to like bleach my sideburns, but then they were just orange.
00:10:46
Speaker 1: I think, more Rooge sidebirds.
00:10:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my hair is basically black, and so I went and bought a bleach kid at home, and like then I was like, oh, look, you can't see it.
00:10:55
Speaker 1: I just love third child. Your mum was like, I've got no idea what she's doing in there, and that's okay.
00:10:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was just like, you're too young. And look, I guess that you know that's the argument here, But if it's bothering her, I think that there's definitely ways you can help without you know, having to go to drastic measures.
00:11:10
Speaker 3: Well that's what I was going to say, because I think that, yes, you want her to know that she's beautiful with or without body hair. But the thing is, and like, it's very anti PC of me to say this, but there are some things that will really really get a teenage girl's confidence down. And being hairy or acnaic are two of those things. So I'll just get on top of them as soon, as like, if she wants to get rid of the hair, just let her get rid of the hair because it.
00:11:38
Speaker 1: Is going to make her so much more confident.
00:11:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she might go behind you back and then do something like like you know, bleacher sideburns, sideburns, or cut herself accidentally or she's never shaved. Yeah, I just would get on top of it straight away because she will really appreciate that you're listening to her as well.
00:11:55
Speaker 1: Agreed.
00:11:56
Speaker 3: And I just don't think that hair is one of those things that's going to give her Like she's not asking for a facelift, yeah, exactly, or a nose job, or she's not asking to go and spend two hundred dollars on mecaret. That's better than the Sephora kids who are around there. That's what I think I would go for laser person. Well, I mean unless she's twelve, because you probably can't really use later.
00:12:18
Speaker 1: And that's it.
00:12:19
Speaker 2: Puberty plays a big role in this, So that's why I was wondering, where're in the teens, But it's definitely an option later if she is in a younger teens.
00:12:25
Speaker 3: What I would say though, is after interoing Sarah Hudson on the formula. She had some really interesting, really valuable insights into the industry of laser So I would definitely listen to that episode and then take her somewhere quite reputable, more so than just somewhere that's like ten sessions for two hundred.
00:12:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, you that wane one of those cheap months. Because so many different types of laser hair remover. Now there's ipl hair removal, which is intense polese light, which is different to laser, but essentially they're going to use the device that will semi permanently remove the hair.
00:12:57
Speaker 3: But because there can be burning or issues. Yes, I never forget.
00:13:01
Speaker 2: I have a scar on my arm from when I had a test patch and my mum said no, so I took myself in on the bus and then they burnt me.
00:13:07
Speaker 3: I would, more so than even because of her young age, take her somewhere that's actually like they are trained clinicians in laser hair removal.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: Yes, and lastly, just maybe it could be worth just a visit to the GP just to check, you know, that everything's all going well, because you know, sometimes excessive body hair can be a sign of For me, I had pcos that's that's why I was so hairy, So.
00:13:28
Speaker 1: For me, I was just a bushy bandit still you go.
00:13:31
Speaker 2: But you're a beautiful mum Ruth that I know, lovely, so kind, good luck.
00:13:36
Speaker 1: Okay, after the break, we've got host hacks.
00:13:39
Speaker 2: And all Kelly has got is caramel slice, so I think she might be in the wrong script.
00:13:44
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what this is?
00:13:51
Speaker 3: What a you ma cup packs?
00:13:57
Speaker 2: All right, Kelly, caramel slice? This is your beauty. You know we don't do a food pot.
00:14:01
Speaker 3: No, we are turning it into a baker's beauty bite. Oh no, we're not really a couple of weeks ago, I'm sure you didn't miss it.
00:14:09
Speaker 1: The cal slice saka.
00:14:10
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I didn't even know who these two peo. Well, I knew recipe, but it.
00:14:14
Speaker 3: Didn't I had never rod Nick was just like, how have you not heard of these people?
00:14:19
Speaker 2: I have her books, I've never opened them, but they look good. And then I didn't know who the other person was. But now I'm well across it. There was two Australian chef's cooks fight I.
00:14:27
Speaker 3: Called it the bake Fluence of Drama, where one of them alleged that the other plagiarized her caramel slice and back of her recipe, and my hack is science backed and why you should take this example and then you can also apply it to beauty Joops, because I saw this really interesting post on the skin trst account, which they do like all science stuff. So as they explained, the average consumer, we only see the ingredients list, just like when you're looking at the caramel slice recipes.
00:14:57
Speaker 1: Because I looked at that and went, how can you like, Wow, you really looked into it. How can you copy like caramel size? It's like the same thing.
00:15:04
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. That's the argument.
00:15:06
Speaker 1: Well that's the argument.
00:15:07
Speaker 3: But if you could apply that to skin care, the average person is just looking at ingredient lists and they go, oh, this twenty dollars one's like basically a copy of this sixty dollars one because the ingredients are the same, They're all in the same sort of order order, it's the same thing.
00:15:22
Speaker 1: I'm just going to.
00:15:23
Speaker 3: Buy this, and hey, guys, I've just found the perfect dupe for this sixty dollars product. So I've got a really good example. I'm going to think of the chocolate. Okay, So if a recipe says one cup of chocolate, and it's like at the top of the ingredient list, you could use home brand cooking chocolate. You could use Cabri milk chocolate, or you could use ninety percent cacao dark lint.
00:15:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would sharp the exact.
00:15:48
Speaker 3: Same way in the ingredient list, but the end product would be vastly different.
00:15:53
Speaker 2: Great. Same for the quality of the ingredient.
00:15:56
Speaker 1: Quality. Same.
00:15:58
Speaker 3: Also just the way that things are, like the formula behind it, what temperature, Yeah, so many different things.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: But like, also, if I follow a recipe, it's not going to turn out as good as the other one. Not saying that a dupe isn't made in a professional setting or in you know.
00:16:11
Speaker 1: Some troops are amazing, don't get us a green.
00:16:13
Speaker 2: But just because there's a recipe doesn't mean it always turns out the same exactly.
00:16:18
Speaker 3: So I just thought that was such an interesting way to look at beauty products, especially in this huge dupe culture.
00:16:25
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a really good way to look at it. I like that a lot.
00:16:28
Speaker 2: And now I'm chocolate caramel slides.
00:16:30
Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, I've been on a big caramel sized train. Do you have a bake baking hat? No, Man is very beauty.
00:16:38
Speaker 2: I used to back in the day when I had time to do my makeup, when I would fill in my brows, and I'd always use a little just.
00:16:44
Speaker 1: To bake my under eyes.
00:16:46
Speaker 2: I actually did say I always use a tiny bit of highlighter just under the hair of my brow bow.
00:16:52
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that was very twenty sixteen. Oh sokho.
00:16:55
Speaker 2: But now because my eyelids are starting to droop and I just want my eyes look a little bit more open, but I have less time to do all the blending, you know how. For example, you and I both in love with the Becker under eye illuminated it. The Peach corrector is a tiny bit of under eye illuminator or corrector, like on your brow bone under the hair. And because it's that brightening, it'll also make your eyes look brighter from the top that you know what I mean, Like it's gonna just carry it up a little bit, yes your under eye, and then if you've got any excess on your finger before you filled in your brows, I just tap it sort of there and it just makes my eyes. Your eyes look very beautiful today. Oh god, I've had four hours sleep in six years, thank you. But yeah, I like it because it kind of the texture mimic skin. It's not shimmery like I used to do with highlighter, but it's just kind of like neutralizing that area because you know, I love my shadow prime, even though I don't wear shadow, but because that dries down, so Matt, it feels like that. Yeah, so I just use a little bit of under eye illuminator. I've already got it out because you're using it on your under eye. Correct, I love fatly.
00:17:56
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it.
00:17:57
Speaker 2: Please try that, Kelly mccarrott. And if you don't, you can set it. But if you don't, it just gives you a little bit of radiance. How it's quite jewy. Sorry that wastcakes, But yeah.
00:18:05
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening.
00:18:07
Speaker 3: And don't forget that some of our episodes are actually up on YouTube so you can watch us.
00:18:13
Speaker 2: I know it's a whole different game.
00:18:16
Speaker 3: Look now we make her once upon a time, we just shot up in our tracked acts.
00:18:20
Speaker 1: And looking like lunaty. We still do.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: If you have a question, send us a dm at you Beauty podcast and our producer will make sure we answer it asap.
00:18:29
Speaker 1: This episode of.
00:18:30
Speaker 3: You Beauty was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production by Tigan Sadler.
00:18:34
Speaker 1: Bye Bye,
Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
00:00:13
Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is recorded on Makeup is my therapy in love. I'm obsessed and I don't even feel.
00:00:25
Speaker 1: Guilty about it.
00:00:29
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the Daily Podcast for your Faith. I'm Lee Campbell.
00:00:34
Speaker 3: I'm Kelly mccarrant, and we were literally just talking about time of air, which makes it sound very boring.
00:00:39
Speaker 2: Well because it's mid to late May, and I can't deal saying that. I read an article, which means I saw it on Instagram.
00:00:46
Speaker 1: I saw a city on TikTok. I read this very interesting article. I don't even look at TikTok.
00:00:51
Speaker 2: The time goes fast as you get older, like it's a real science thing, because of the proportional something that you.
00:00:55
Speaker 3: Were born, the years that I have you lived or something, yes I are now or five?
00:00:59
Speaker 2: You feel like summer holidays went anyway?
00:01:01
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, but now half a year is almost part.
00:01:05
Speaker 1: It's actually terrible. Did you say who you were?
00:01:07
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm Kelly okay, And it's Q and a day, which means every mind day, we answer two of your questions, and we finish off the episode with a host tank shopping.
00:01:18
Speaker 3: List, something a reminder, something not to do. You never know what you're gonna get.
00:01:23
Speaker 2: You never know, So if you want to ask a question, look, you can email us it's you Beauty at Mama mea dot com dot are you or just slide into the you beauty Instagram dms because someone checks them and tells us about them exactly.
00:01:34
Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything?
00:01:36
Speaker 2: You ask many questions.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: Later on the episode, we have got a question from a month She's asking on behalf of her teenage daughter for advice, which is just so lovely. But first we have an email from Claire Hileen Kelly love the show. You sometimes say that you bought a product when at the chemistal shopping. Do you get sent many products from companies? If you do, why do you buy extra products? What makes you actually pay for those products? And what have you bought with your own money lately?
00:02:04
Speaker 1: Thank you so much? Claire?
00:02:06
Speaker 2: Are you my husband? Because he keeps saying why are you buying more beauty products? Look, Kelly and I probably have similar answers, but I'll go first, So, yeah, what happens is if you're in beauty media, you know whether or not your content creator or I guess this is more traditional media, you will be on PR list public relations list, and then they'll send an email saying, hey, this lip gloss is launching, do you want to try it? Or sometimes they just send it. But not every brand sends to me or to Kelly or to every publication. And also not every brand has a public relations business like company or someone working for them or an AU team necessarily exactly. And then also there's so much launching at the moment. You know, I'm obsessed with K Beauty and JA Beauty and a lot of that isn't represented professionally here with an agency or something like that. And I also just bloody love beauty products. So while we're sent a huge amount of products, and it's not just for us, it's you know, for the team to trial for other purposes aside from the podcast. We get a lot, but it's still only a tiny snippet of the industry.
00:03:11
Speaker 1: I guess.
00:03:12
Speaker 2: For example, if you're new here, I'm obsessed with Revolution Beauty, you can buy it online. You can get it at a price. Sign I don't know who does their PR if they have pr I've never been sent any.
00:03:21
Speaker 1: I buy it all.
00:03:22
Speaker 2: Like I said, I do a lot of J beauty and K beauty shopping. If I see something going viral on Instagram, like remember that deal stick foundation I loved God, I went and bought that after hunting it down, like I was like a private investigator trying to get that. And then of course I just buy the stuff. I'll always go back to when I'm not trialing some serums my my cellar water. I just love beauty, So I do buy a lot. Full transparency. I put it through my tax doesn't.
00:03:48
Speaker 1: Mean it's free though, you see.
00:03:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was probably late twenties when I realized that it's a tax deduction. But it doesn't mean you get all the money back. But still, I mean, I think it's important for me if I've seen something that I think, oh love. And also Kelly and I get sent a lot, but it might not be right for our skin type or hair type, so like I'll pass on something for blondes to Kelly, or she'll pass on something for oily skin to me. Yeah, so I mean I do buy a lot.
00:04:12
Speaker 1: What about you? I shop a lot.
00:04:14
Speaker 3: I actually think that I probably don't get as much sent to me as people assume, maybe because I'm a freelancer. Yeah, I'm not on as many PR lists. Like there are some companies that have just never sent me anything, and I'm like, well, don't.
00:04:27
Speaker 2: You want to be on Australia's biggest udio?
00:04:28
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, I'll just gone by it. Yeah.
00:04:30
Speaker 3: But the thing is is it for us to buy something, we have to genuinely want to try it. So sometimes you might notice that say I or Lee might recommend more brands, like you might see things popping up.
00:04:42
Speaker 1: Regularly through the year.
00:04:43
Speaker 3: That's because we probably are on the PR list so actually get to try all of their launchers, whereas if we're not, something has to look really cool and exciting for us to want to go out and spend down money on it. So if no one else is talking about it as well, then we're not necessarily going to want to go spend six thirty dollars on something we've never heard anything about it.
00:05:00
Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense. Yeah, And then.
00:05:02
Speaker 3: One person might be like, yeah, but what about this, Well, I don't know whereas you shop more, I guess you're like very into I herb and yeah, a beauty JD, Amazon's I am you do sometimes, but I'm huge on social media.
00:05:16
Speaker 1: I've seen something that.
00:05:17
Speaker 2: I're you're way more into that, like you buy.
00:05:20
Speaker 3: Things direct from ads like or I have to try that because I want to report back honestly as well.
00:05:27
Speaker 2: I've started to buy a few things, but I've found that a lot of those Instagram too good to be true things.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: They always are too good to be true.
00:05:33
Speaker 2: But whereas I'm like getting a script filled at you chemistware House or your price side and then I'm like, oh maybe Leane's half price or Revolution, what have you got?
00:05:41
Speaker 3: And also a PR company isn't going to send us something that's old all of a sudden, The Paulish choice bh yeah is gaining virality on.
00:05:49
Speaker 2: Tiktop because it's not new and they're not sending it.
00:05:51
Speaker 3: Well, We're going to go out and buy it to try it because they're not going to send it to us, like it's not new, why would they. They're going to send whatever new product they are launching.
00:05:59
Speaker 1: And I also.
00:06:00
Speaker 3: Think that a lot of Savy brands don't have the sort of PR Yeah.
00:06:05
Speaker 2: That's the tricky part. That's why I buy a lot of Savies is because we don't get sent a lot of savors. Not that we get sent a lot of luxury, but it's kind of that we get a lot of mid yeah med and you know now like stuff from the chemist is up to like sixty five seventy five dollars for an hour. We always wait till it's on special by Yeah. But so we're often looking for saves. That's why Kelly and I you can hear it's going COO and Kmart and the pharmacies. But no, we definitely don't get sent everything. We do get sent a lot, and I also often get asked what do we do with it all? So here at Mama Mea, we have like beauty cupboard storage cupboards, and every few times a year we clean those out and send the shampoo and conditioner and the kind of essentials to women's shelters and then anything a bit more fancy, we do like a beauty sale here and the money raised goes to Rise Up, which we're very proud ambassadors for and they help women and families out of domestic violence situations.
00:06:53
Speaker 1: I do the women's shelters a couple of times a year.
00:06:56
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, I always do hates of big bags for Share the dignity. And I also do this random thing for my girlfriends at Christmas time where they come over and I have everything out kind of like a stale, kind of like what you do at Mama Mea, and then everything goes to One year it was Dementia Australia. Last year it was a Ronald McDonald house. Because I saw that it was like anyway, that just made me feel really good.
00:07:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never just throw out products at all, God, not unless it's like burnt how skin or something.
00:07:22
Speaker 2: Yes, now it smells like mold, which is something I used on my hair yesterday. I realized it was a natural hair product I hadn't used for a while. Molds on my hair actually was mold. Anyway, after the break, a beautiful mum wants to help solve her daughter's problems, and we're here to help.
00:07:43
Speaker 3: I'd just like to say I really wish my mother had cared as much as Ruth, because Ruth has sent us a deer. My teenage daughter is really embarrassed about her body hair. She has lovely fair skin and in contrast, quite dark hair on her arms. She has lighter and finer hair on her face. I don't notice, but she says it's visible in the outdoors. She also worries about the hair she calls her sideburns. I'm seeking solutions to offer her while also reminding her she's absolutely beautiful regardless. Any wisdom would be much appreciated.
00:08:14
Speaker 2: Oh, bless her, Ruth, that's so nice. I wonder when you say eighteen, I wonder if she's like thirteen or seventeen. I guess it doesn't really matter, but I remember saying to my mum, like, my mom want to shave my legs. My mom will shaved my legs. And she's like, no, not yet. So I just went and got a razor. I didn't know how to do it. No water, no anybody, no no. I just swipe, swipe, sipe ow. And then I went to her mom. I said, Mum, my skin's really redden and he goes, oh, I'll show you how to do it properly. So, Ruth, you've got a few options. I normally have very very hairy arms. My brother and sister growing up called me Wookie the Wookie because I'm just such a yeah and I'm Scottish heritage. So while I do put gradual tann On. I've got fair skin and really dark hair. I shave my arms with a men's razor in the shower every few days. It will not grow back darker and longer. That's impossible.
00:09:00
Speaker 3: But also your arms, I've never felt them be spiky the way legs are.
00:09:04
Speaker 2: No, No, they're definitely not because it's a different type of hair. But also I literally I goes it takes me two seconds. Legs on the other hand, I wear pants a lot. I will let them literally grow like a blanket.
00:09:14
Speaker 1: I'm a bushy bit.
00:09:16
Speaker 2: But you know, with shaving or anything that removes the hair from the surface of the skin, it can't affect the root of the hair under the skin. The reason it might feel a little bit thicker or darker, well, definitely not darker, is that there's no tapered tip to the hair as it grows back. So I shave my arms. That might be a bit much for her. There's definitely options about laser, but I'll let Kelly kind of talk through that. Finishing Touch is an Australian brand that does a lot of different tools, and I've talked about the little face shaver that I keep in my car to shave my mustache, not when I'm driving, but when I'm in my car because of the light. They have lots of different little tools that could be good for the peach fuzz, which is what you say. I think the hair on the side of her face, her sideburns. I actually had hectic sideburns, like it looked like I was wearing a helmet of hair. And then in my twenties I had laser hair removal on just on the side of my face. But if she's not ready for laser, depending on the age, she could try threading and that's where they saw sort of remove the hair from the root. It's like waxing, but without the wax, and they do it with cotton thread basically. Or you could try to pilotry cream. I thought that could help. There's a really great brand called Woo Woo. It's an Australian brand and it's really sort of natural and gentle. Or you've got your.
00:10:24
Speaker 3: Nad's nevvy doesn't smell the way it used to as well. Honestly, I only was allowed to beat when I was a teenager.
00:10:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was also chewbacker, yeah, except a very fair chewbacker, you know. I'm dark when I went into the sun that you go, dear lord.
00:10:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I remember hating it and Mum wouldn't let me either, and so I tried to like bleach my sideburns, but then they were just orange.
00:10:46
Speaker 1: I think, more Rooge sidebirds.
00:10:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my hair is basically black, and so I went and bought a bleach kid at home, and like then I was like, oh, look, you can't see it.
00:10:55
Speaker 1: I just love third child. Your mum was like, I've got no idea what she's doing in there, and that's okay.
00:10:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was just like, you're too young. And look, I guess that you know that's the argument here, But if it's bothering her, I think that there's definitely ways you can help without you know, having to go to drastic measures.
00:11:10
Speaker 3: Well that's what I was going to say, because I think that, yes, you want her to know that she's beautiful with or without body hair. But the thing is, and like, it's very anti PC of me to say this, but there are some things that will really really get a teenage girl's confidence down. And being hairy or acnaic are two of those things. So I'll just get on top of them as soon, as like, if she wants to get rid of the hair, just let her get rid of the hair because it.
00:11:38
Speaker 1: Is going to make her so much more confident.
00:11:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she might go behind you back and then do something like like you know, bleacher sideburns, sideburns, or cut herself accidentally or she's never shaved. Yeah, I just would get on top of it straight away because she will really appreciate that you're listening to her as well.
00:11:55
Speaker 1: Agreed.
00:11:56
Speaker 3: And I just don't think that hair is one of those things that's going to give her Like she's not asking for a facelift, yeah, exactly, or a nose job, or she's not asking to go and spend two hundred dollars on mecaret. That's better than the Sephora kids who are around there. That's what I think I would go for laser person. Well, I mean unless she's twelve, because you probably can't really use later.
00:12:18
Speaker 1: And that's it.
00:12:19
Speaker 2: Puberty plays a big role in this, So that's why I was wondering, where're in the teens, But it's definitely an option later if she is in a younger teens.
00:12:25
Speaker 3: What I would say though, is after interoing Sarah Hudson on the formula. She had some really interesting, really valuable insights into the industry of laser So I would definitely listen to that episode and then take her somewhere quite reputable, more so than just somewhere that's like ten sessions for two hundred.
00:12:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, you that wane one of those cheap months. Because so many different types of laser hair remover. Now there's ipl hair removal, which is intense polese light, which is different to laser, but essentially they're going to use the device that will semi permanently remove the hair.
00:12:57
Speaker 3: But because there can be burning or issues. Yes, I never forget.
00:13:01
Speaker 2: I have a scar on my arm from when I had a test patch and my mum said no, so I took myself in on the bus and then they burnt me.
00:13:07
Speaker 3: I would, more so than even because of her young age, take her somewhere that's actually like they are trained clinicians in laser hair removal.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: Yes, and lastly, just maybe it could be worth just a visit to the GP just to check, you know, that everything's all going well, because you know, sometimes excessive body hair can be a sign of For me, I had pcos that's that's why I was so hairy, So.
00:13:28
Speaker 1: For me, I was just a bushy bandit still you go.
00:13:31
Speaker 2: But you're a beautiful mum Ruth that I know, lovely, so kind, good luck.
00:13:36
Speaker 1: Okay, after the break, we've got host hacks.
00:13:39
Speaker 2: And all Kelly has got is caramel slice, so I think she might be in the wrong script.
00:13:44
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what this is?
00:13:51
Speaker 3: What a you ma cup packs?
00:13:57
Speaker 2: All right, Kelly, caramel slice? This is your beauty. You know we don't do a food pot.
00:14:01
Speaker 3: No, we are turning it into a baker's beauty bite. Oh no, we're not really a couple of weeks ago, I'm sure you didn't miss it.
00:14:09
Speaker 1: The cal slice saka.
00:14:10
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I didn't even know who these two peo. Well, I knew recipe, but it.
00:14:14
Speaker 3: Didn't I had never rod Nick was just like, how have you not heard of these people?
00:14:19
Speaker 2: I have her books, I've never opened them, but they look good. And then I didn't know who the other person was. But now I'm well across it. There was two Australian chef's cooks fight I.
00:14:27
Speaker 3: Called it the bake Fluence of Drama, where one of them alleged that the other plagiarized her caramel slice and back of her recipe, and my hack is science backed and why you should take this example and then you can also apply it to beauty Joops, because I saw this really interesting post on the skin trst account, which they do like all science stuff. So as they explained, the average consumer, we only see the ingredients list, just like when you're looking at the caramel slice recipes.
00:14:57
Speaker 1: Because I looked at that and went, how can you like, Wow, you really looked into it. How can you copy like caramel size? It's like the same thing.
00:15:04
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. That's the argument.
00:15:06
Speaker 1: Well that's the argument.
00:15:07
Speaker 3: But if you could apply that to skin care, the average person is just looking at ingredient lists and they go, oh, this twenty dollars one's like basically a copy of this sixty dollars one because the ingredients are the same, They're all in the same sort of order order, it's the same thing.
00:15:22
Speaker 1: I'm just going to.
00:15:23
Speaker 3: Buy this, and hey, guys, I've just found the perfect dupe for this sixty dollars product. So I've got a really good example. I'm going to think of the chocolate. Okay, So if a recipe says one cup of chocolate, and it's like at the top of the ingredient list, you could use home brand cooking chocolate. You could use Cabri milk chocolate, or you could use ninety percent cacao dark lint.
00:15:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would sharp the exact.
00:15:48
Speaker 3: Same way in the ingredient list, but the end product would be vastly different.
00:15:53
Speaker 2: Great. Same for the quality of the ingredient.
00:15:56
Speaker 1: Quality. Same.
00:15:58
Speaker 3: Also just the way that things are, like the formula behind it, what temperature, Yeah, so many different things.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: But like, also, if I follow a recipe, it's not going to turn out as good as the other one. Not saying that a dupe isn't made in a professional setting or in you know.
00:16:11
Speaker 1: Some troops are amazing, don't get us a green.
00:16:13
Speaker 2: But just because there's a recipe doesn't mean it always turns out the same exactly.
00:16:18
Speaker 3: So I just thought that was such an interesting way to look at beauty products, especially in this huge dupe culture.
00:16:25
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a really good way to look at it. I like that a lot.
00:16:28
Speaker 2: And now I'm chocolate caramel slides.
00:16:30
Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, I've been on a big caramel sized train. Do you have a bake baking hat? No, Man is very beauty.
00:16:38
Speaker 2: I used to back in the day when I had time to do my makeup, when I would fill in my brows, and I'd always use a little just.
00:16:44
Speaker 1: To bake my under eyes.
00:16:46
Speaker 2: I actually did say I always use a tiny bit of highlighter just under the hair of my brow bow.
00:16:52
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that was very twenty sixteen. Oh sokho.
00:16:55
Speaker 2: But now because my eyelids are starting to droop and I just want my eyes look a little bit more open, but I have less time to do all the blending, you know how. For example, you and I both in love with the Becker under eye illuminated it. The Peach corrector is a tiny bit of under eye illuminator or corrector, like on your brow bone under the hair. And because it's that brightening, it'll also make your eyes look brighter from the top that you know what I mean, Like it's gonna just carry it up a little bit, yes your under eye, and then if you've got any excess on your finger before you filled in your brows, I just tap it sort of there and it just makes my eyes. Your eyes look very beautiful today. Oh god, I've had four hours sleep in six years, thank you. But yeah, I like it because it kind of the texture mimic skin. It's not shimmery like I used to do with highlighter, but it's just kind of like neutralizing that area because you know, I love my shadow prime, even though I don't wear shadow, but because that dries down, so Matt, it feels like that. Yeah, so I just use a little bit of under eye illuminator. I've already got it out because you're using it on your under eye. Correct, I love fatly.
00:17:56
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it.
00:17:57
Speaker 2: Please try that, Kelly mccarrott. And if you don't, you can set it. But if you don't, it just gives you a little bit of radiance. How it's quite jewy. Sorry that wastcakes, But yeah.
00:18:05
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening.
00:18:07
Speaker 3: And don't forget that some of our episodes are actually up on YouTube so you can watch us.
00:18:13
Speaker 2: I know it's a whole different game.
00:18:16
Speaker 3: Look now we make her once upon a time, we just shot up in our tracked acts.
00:18:20
Speaker 1: And looking like lunaty. We still do.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: If you have a question, send us a dm at you Beauty podcast and our producer will make sure we answer it asap.
00:18:29
Speaker 1: This episode of.
00:18:30
Speaker 3: You Beauty was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production by Tigan Sadler.
00:18:34
Speaker 1: Bye Bye,
