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I never in all the years I've been doing this
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grand sport, remember so much anticipation and build up to
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one match, not only in pro wrestling amongst our fans,
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but in the sports world.
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Malone never dreamed as a little kid being a basketball player.
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He dreamed to be a wrestler.
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I think the tag.
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Match involving Karl Malone and Dennis Robin was one of
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the highlights of my career.
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I've got Phil Jackson calling me, going, where's my guy at?
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Where's my guy at? I'm gonna Robin and Phil Jackson
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keeps blowing on my phone. You gotta go back, he goes,
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I don't want to go back. All the lines were bordered.
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Who do you hear me?
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Went to Diamond Color.
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I said, thank god, this is over.
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The Allegiance switched from WWE to w c W. We
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were really really running hard. We had everybody's attention, you know,
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everybody wanted to be involved.
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So they're looking for, like, what can we do that
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the other show doesn't have? And so WCW goes to
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the tried and true well of celebrities and pro wrestling matches.
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I just think it's something so special to take a
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celebrity that's really really established and take them out of
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their element and just see the reaction of how they
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react and how the fans react to them.
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It's easy to laugh at some of these matches. You know,
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you can make fun of David Arkat or whoever, for
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all you want, but this is a part of wrestling history,
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going back to its very earliest days. You know, we
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had like world boxing champions would come referee wrestling matches
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just to like give wrestling that little sheen of significance
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in the sports landscape.
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And then to take those athletes and bring them into
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the world of sports entertainment. It gets a ton of
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media coverage, and I think the additional media coverage in
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and of itself is one of the reasons why the
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audience gets excited about it.
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It's kin they d.
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No, they's not going into.
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What WCW did in ninety eight was. I think they
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kind of shocked everybody because they didn't go to the
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regular well.
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Of football players.
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They went to the pro basketball world and they got
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charm Alone of the Utah Jazz and Dennis Rodman of
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the Chicago Bulls. He and Karmeloone are squaring off in
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the in the finals. The Bulls and the Jazz or
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Gus for the second year in a row, and they're
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both power forwards. They're guarding each other in every possession.
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Robin is notoriously like pesky defender. His only job out
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there is to make karmelone's life a living. How it's
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very organic, you know. I mean, these guys already hate
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each other, they just sort of end up having a
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match in w CW. Somehow it makes all the sense
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in the world.
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Dennis Rodman, the worm is here, the how many Moments
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up WCW Monday Night Troil Hong Kong, Dennis Rodman together
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Eric Bitchamin.
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Toe and two men who will form a giant Gunnick
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tech team at the mid evned Bash.
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Of the Beach.
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Rozilla was perfec because he was a monster. As a
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monster was social life and public he was wherever he went.
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He created chaos.
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When Dennis and WCW F started working together, Dennis wanted
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a tour bus, so I.
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Said, well, what the hell, it's not that big of
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a deal. We'll get him a tour bus for four
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or five days or a week.
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And it was towards the end of the night and
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after an event and Dennis said, you know, I want
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to stop at a gentleman's club. And I thought, well,
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what the hell, you know, the night's over. That's what
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he wants to do, you know, no problem. So there
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was a number of high profile names and sports entertainment
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who were part of the crew, and we all went
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into the Gentleman's club and everybody had a great time.
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When it was starting to get late and I'm looking
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around and going, okay, where's Dennis.
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Knows anybody seen Dennis. Couldn't find Dennis.
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So we went up to one of the security guys
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that were part of our team and said, hey, I
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haven't seen Dennis.
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Here for forty five minutes or an hour.
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Any idea where he is because we should probably wrap
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this up, you know, get out of here.
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And he said, I think he's out on the bus.
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All right, we'll go out of the bus and see
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what's going on. And not expecting anything that I thought,
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maybe he's sleeping out on the.
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Bus or whatever, having a beer, you know. I didn't
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know what to expect.
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And got out there and there's a couple of security
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guys you know, standing outside the bus and they opened
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the door for me and said you sure you want
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to go in there?
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And I went, yeah, why not?
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You know, I know Dennis pretty well, we're cool.
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And I walked I walked in that bus.
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And it was like a scene from Colligula.
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I mean, I went, oh, this is going to be
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a long tour.
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This is the way you think that I learned from
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you that bus last year.
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Remember, wow to a bus.
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Brother was like because if you're hear stories about you know,
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wrestler's back then in eight seventies and eighties and nineties.
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They was just this full blown, just out of control.
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I mean they would they would just sit there a
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party all day, party all night. And I think that's
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the reason why they like me being in the situation
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in that situation because they knew I could handle that.
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And for me to be involved with Bishoff and all
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those guys, man, that was just like icing on the
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cake for me. Because you know, living in Texas, Dallas, Texas,
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when they had the Banerics, had the ban Neics back
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in the day, That's all we watched was wrestling back then.
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You know, it was like wrestling or Dallas Cowboys. That
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was it, you know, that was it for us. The
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whole culture there, so rastling. I watched it every saday, Man,
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let's get it, and I said, I got no problem
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doing that, and I always wanted to do it.
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I'm Glady benshoff Es me.
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The guy he locked up. Guys, how about that? Why
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back Christ like turn up black Iron's back. I pulled
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off backac.
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Looked back at like gorgeous George. And we've seen a
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lot of wrestlers with bleached hair and robes since then,
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but at the time, to have like curled hair that
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was bleached blonde that somebody sprang perfume behind you, to
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have like a fine sequined robe or whatever coming to
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the ring, this was just a signifier of everything you're
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supposed to hate in the world. And Dennis Rodman had
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a very specific sense of style. I'm sure he was
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very into it himself, but he would dress and drag
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specifically just to like make people mad. He was trying
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to become a heel and he was and he succeeded
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at it.
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Well. Robinin had an incredible amount of heat. He was
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an anti establishment, anti athlete. He would drink seventy five
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comic Cozees and go set another record on the basketball
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court and then drink seventy five more Kma cozees. After
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the game.
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We had Instagram a social media Backdan, I always tell
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people I Begionaire.
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Should I tell you straight up?
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I think a lot of people stid to really dig
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what I was doing, and I said, Wow, this guy
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just basketball player. He's just all around entertainer pre period,
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nor that he knows how to win. He knows how
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to win every department of life and all. So he
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would have went everywhere.
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So when he transcended over to our business and walked
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in a main event position, everybody hated it. Even the
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wrestlers hated it. Everybody wanted to see him get his
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ass kicked. I think the wrestlers in the back and
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one to see it even more than the fans.
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Because he was arrogant.
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He wouldn't show up on time.
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We'd have ring time set aside for all of us
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to work out with them, and we had very busy schedules,
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and he'd come walking in, you know, an hour and
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a half, two hours late. I could smell booze all
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over his breath, you know. But when the red light
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went on and we were live in front of a camera,
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he was genius.
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Hollywood, man with style, man with class, n W comes
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to town.
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It's a new world or the Baby, That's what it's.
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Going to be.
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Me and my good friend, God, it's four.
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Li Roblin was my guy, you know, I knew him
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forever and we were really close friends. But Diamond Dallas
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Page bonded with Malone.
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I was at this big autograph signing in Houston, Texas.
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I was actually there for two days and someone said
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to me, Hey, do you want to go to see
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the Rockets play night? I said absolutely, I want to
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go and check the game out. And they go, oh,
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they're playing Utah Jazz. I was like, oh, man, I
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love to see Malone play. We're all twenty rows up
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and they're at a you know, just a little time out,
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and Malone is looking up and he does this Russ Foreman,
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who's our photographer. I was like, oh my god, Belone
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just did the Diamond Cutter sign. And he starts grabbing
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for his camera and he put his camera and he
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said backstage.
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Passes for me and Russ Forman.
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And at some point I get a he calls outside,
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so I walk outside.
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I'm like, hey, man, gives.
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Me a big hug super you know, big personality, and
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you know, here's my number, bro I said.
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We exchanged numbers, and I said, if you.
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Ever want to like get in a ring and like
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play around a little bit, and I go, I can
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make that happen really easily.
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Right as we only need this mans in the size
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and Simon Dallas Page has been stunning twenty four hours
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a day.
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If you look at home alone back then we take
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those old pictures. He looked like a wrestler.
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I mean he was. He was built for it. I
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mean he was like two forty two fifty two fifty.
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Five, I mean just solid, right, I'm just budding on
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like two twenty five of that.
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I heard Rodman was coming in again, and I that
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did a phenomenal job the first time because he embodied
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the heel.
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He embodied the show.
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Many even watching our stuff since he was a little baby,
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you know, and love it just like Carl.
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I thought, I wonder if Malone would do this.
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So I called him up and I said, hey, big Man,
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Rodman's coming in again. I said, would you consider wrestling
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with me against Rodney and Hogan? Yeah, I think I would.
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Now. Eric Bischoff lived on the other side of the hill,
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two houses away from me. We walked on his deck.
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We're having a beer. I said, I got an idea.
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I said, what if it was me and Malone against
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Rodney and Ogan?
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And I thought, wow, that would be hard to believe
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that it could happen.
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So I have to give a lot of credit to
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DDP for bringing Carol Malone into the picture.
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To me, this guy right here is the hardest working
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man in professional sports, especially when it comes to basketball.
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And I know, but you know it's funny. I think
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they pissed that because of what happened in the playoffs.
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You know, we kept bounding each other, kept hitting each other,
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kept delbowing each other, stuff like that.
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Why am I Carmel and Dennis shammin.
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One of the reasons that I invested so much money
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in Carly and Dennis for that particular pay per view
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is because I knew that I would get advertising in
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mainstream sports media.
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That I could never afford to buy.
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I knew that every sports writer would be criticizing both
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Carl and Dennis for stepping into the world in sports
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entertainment because, Jase, your professional athletes and you should never
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get involved with something like that. I knew that wrestling,
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you know, media would be so super were critical. All
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of that added up to a ton of press, a
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ton of med that, like I said, we couldn't afford
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to buy.
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You know who holding gonna s sale? You know, you know,
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so it's like, hey, you can always kind of on
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what the hell he's gonna do. And then when you
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throw me in the mixing while the bad board NBA
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and you gotta call him along a guy from Utah,
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It's like, Wow, what a matchup.
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There's nothing more important. I was right, you know.
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One of the highlights of that period of time was
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Dennis Rodman decided to skip practice to attend a nightro.
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I knew it was.
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Going to create an issue within the Chicago Bulls and
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probably for Dennis, but I wasn't too worried about any gramifications.
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With regard to w CW, because it was really Dennis's choice.
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I've got Phil Jackson call me, going to where's my
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guy at? Where's my guy at?
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I'm gonna robin.
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Phil Jackson keeps blowing up my phone. You gotta go back,
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he goes, I don't want to go back. All the
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lines were blurred.
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Jordan didn't say too much to me because he knew
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the fact that no matter what I did off the court,
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I'm there, he'd have to worry about me.
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I was always dead to play.
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I knew I couldn't talk to Dennis and Carl about
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doing anything on court during play that would help promote WCW.
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But there was probably a conversation or two wink wank
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where someone may have said, hey, guys, if you get
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the opportunity off court during a stoppage in play or
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during a time out, do you have any kind of
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animated conversation.
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Between the two of you, if you get my drift.
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That would only help asked him.
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We said we were down to a fight that would
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have been excited as gemn.
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I'll have to make it more interesting for as a finalist.
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Dennis Rodman, he was always pushing an envelope and he
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did wrestling ads wrestling.
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You know, it's a circuits.
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When Malone did it, it changed the face of what
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was happening. Malone never dreamed as a little kid being
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a basketball player.
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He dreamed to be a wrestler.
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We'll ground man, it's a part of American culture, world culture.
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I didn't want to announce it, announce it. We're figuring
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out how we're going to do it, and one day
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it hit me.
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I call Eric up and I go, bro.
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You know, I talked to Carl and he said, whether
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they win or lose, he's going to be on the
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Tonight Show.
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We're not shooting this angle on the wrestling show. We're
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shooting this angle on the Tonight Show the world stage.
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Jane Wanno in the middle.
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That was that was me, hope.
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So anyway, so we were sitting there, I'm sitting there
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doing any help comes out.
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The next thing, you know, here come d d P.
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They come this way, and she thought to just get
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real quick. I mean, I didn't even respect that.
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Malona went, did you call Malona?
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You called Dinna? I didn't hear.
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Dennis.
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I did agree, I called it called out more than
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whim on the court.
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Brother.
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Really, it comes to that point where me and Malone
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come through the wings.
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Holding the chairs, throwing down the chairs, throwing up the
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diamond cutty sign.
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And you know, Diamon Dallas Page has never really cutting
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his hands on me, so it was a perfect opportunity
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for Domon Dallas Page to kick my butt. I didn't
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realize he was gonna do.
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It for for real t d piece if he said,
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I got oh what a shop man, Let me do this?
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Man, let me do it.
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So he did it and it actually actually came out
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pretty good. That's real, man, look like right not dde.
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Yeah, the adrenaline was so high, Drew carry I'll never forget. Well,
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it came up to me later and he goes true.
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Kerry said, oh my god, was that real? Oh my god,
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this is I was intense. The next day, Well then
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it was pandemonium.
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This year, we're going to bash the Beach ninety eight
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in San Diego, and I think the entire sports world
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is awaiting this announcement.
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I've seen press conferences before, you go when big things happen,
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Like big things happened.
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This was like Super Bowl. They were lined up everywhere.
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There's three things I wanted to do growing up as
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a kid.
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You know, I want to be a State trooper.
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I want to fly jets, and I wanted to raft it.
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I can't do those other two.
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Well, I thing I'm thinking about it just beating rod
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Zillo Sis.
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He got with him unk hole.
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No one ever called him that, but I called it like.
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A Coward a yellow belly power, and I'm looking forward
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to him.
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These two guys were too grace athletes I've ever been with.
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Karl Malone had the most intense work ethic. When he
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told me he was going to do this, he wanted
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to really do it, like he didn't want to do
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it where he came in and just did one little
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thing and got out like he came and trained with
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me at the power Plant on.
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And off for weeks.
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It was really uncomfortable working with Dennis in the very
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beginning in terms of training because you could never really
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tell if he was paying attention when we were training together.
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And it was limited amount of time to train with Dennis,
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partly because of his schedule and partly because Dennis just didn't.
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Like to prepare much.
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You could tell that he was picking it up, but
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he didn't have the same intensity that Karl Malone did.
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But game day for WCD, I mean, when the red
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light was on, he would shock you.
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Rodman had a good feel for what we actually did
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in the ring from day one. So it's nice to
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work with somebody that the physicality and the placement and
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the timing is already there. It's what we call them
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having it. Rodman had it. So to Karl Malone, we
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decided to go to this bar, and we all go
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to this bar. Someone to be stuff like that, drinking
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all night, all night. I remember that next day I
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had to really really deep.
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Man to do this.
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I was just I was cool.
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And I just asked this, guys, how do you guys
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do this all the time?
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Let me drink for this fifteen minutes of that match,
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I felt like hell, I said old.
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Once I started getting hit little me in war. I
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was cool. I was fine.
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Man.
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You know, one can only imagine what activities that Dennis
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Rodman has engaged in over the course in the past
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couple of weeks, and only a small portion of those
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activities made the national press.
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But some things he didn't.
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We kind of in here to talk about.
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And when Malone came out and took his shirt off
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and was there a DDP, the place exploded.
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Here's the mailman.
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I was really surprised because I saw Dennis get a
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little intimidated. I was supposed to actually rip Dennis's shirt off,
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but he told me to leave a shirt on. I
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don't think he wanted to take his shirt off and
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stand next to Malone because Carl looks so shocked.
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That's so big.
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It looks awesome.
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Is he and DP are here to find ladies and gentlemen?
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These four shirt off? Hold me and him? He took
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his off.
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I didn't take myself because you know, after the match
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I did, after the master, after the master, I did
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by doing a d a whole thing. I just want
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people to see the shirt.
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It's gonna be.
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Rod Zillah and the mailman and the recree calls call
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the bell and Razel still has his glasses on.
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Oh he's cool, you know, cars like you know, he's
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like heel strok. You know, he's that country bowing strong.
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Look at the sick of the mail tremendous shape. Diamond
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Dallas was a great shake.
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The moment when rod and the Malone locked up.
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He and Hogan were quite a tag team. They've locked up.
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The parents love a mess like just the physical contact
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side headlocked by Dennis Rodman.
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Just the moment of realizing this guy's have actually trained to.
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Russell gave the rucks damn goo up to the floor.
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I mean it wasn't exactly like Hogan slamming Andre. It
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wasn't just like the biggest finishing move you've ever seen
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at like a WrestleMania main event. But that first lock up,
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this felt like a huge moment.
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When he comes out, everybody notices he's there.
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Look, d d P hooked it up collar and elbow
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with Rodman and just pulled him down to the mat.
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Wow, there was a class act.
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So you spit at DDP at one point?
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Was that something that you guys talked about?
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No?
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No, because he d P was like a little selfish
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for a minute.
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They say all right now, or even let's go at.
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It and he'll look at me on the Okay, okay,
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let's do this life. Let's do it, and he'll sit
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there and hit me for real, I mean literally hit
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me for real.
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They're getting frustrated, guys. I learned drank rider, how about that?
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But I think that I just did it because it's
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more like it was easy for me to do that
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than anything else. If I would have went, I would
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have got a chair and took outside of the ring
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stuff like that.
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It would have got really.
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Ugly riding in a side headlock rod Bean and look
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at DDP ight away.
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I thought he delivered in all the spots that we
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need the ropes.
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To whoa, I tell you make it too. I'm looking
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at that half an halfway, I'm telling you.
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And when he added the batch down looked pretty sweet.
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It's an awful, confident looking Karl Malone. Look at the
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wings right on him, I mean from the fingertip to
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fingertips like a condor.
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You know.
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One of the things that really impressed me with Carl is.
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What he lacked in innery experience and technical ability, he
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was able to make up for just a sheer strength.
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For example, the body slam hull Coogan.
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You go back and look at that. It looks like
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he was throwing a fifty pound bag of you know,
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horse feed around.
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How about that.
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Flowing down memory.
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I've never been thrown around like that by any other man.
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Even Andre Mom had no bounds. I mean, if he
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wanted you over there, you'd just throw you over there.
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I was like, oh my god, this guy's so strong.
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And when he got in the ring, he had a
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certain feeling a peace where it was like I was
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in some mark that was grabbing, trying to walk up
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me and poking me in the eyre stepping on my
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feet or tripping over me.
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He was he was there.
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Oh, it's time to get the mail.
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All jumps in, dres to cut up and then runs
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it down. It's a good corn up and the mail
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man got the ball.
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Yes, that's not.
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Leave me calling all this. He was not gonna tell me,
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damn man, what jump from behind?
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It is.
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They trying to run rod fella.
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But he did what he did that move be honest, Richard,
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I said, thank god, this is over.
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When you hear me with the diamond color, I said, yeah,
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this is over.
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Disciples in though then disciple is in.
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He watches up dad, p.
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How can tell us what to day?
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I just I just love the fact that they gave
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us the opportunity to be there, an opportunity for people
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actually see us actually rustled against each other. I just
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wish the fact that they would have had us do
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a lot more doing that that summer. Me and call
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along O wways say, would have had us doing some
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really really cool, interesting things with them, you know Dond
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Hayes and Hulk Hogan, well even Randy Savage, all the
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guys that was back to back in the day. I
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wish it would have me and call Out do a
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whole lot of things, even having me in colleagues to
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do like a whole mess by myself.
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When I look at all of the pieces, two high
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profile athletes at the very peak of their careers.
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Coming off the playoffs.
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Stepping into the ring with Hulk Hogan, who was and
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probably still is one of the most recognized names in
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sports entertainment in the last thirty years. That was something
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that I think had never happened before and will probably
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never happen again. It was an amazing accomplishment and it's
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one that I'm it may not be the most successful
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thing I've ever done in this industry, but in many
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ways it's one that I'm most proud of.
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When I look knock at it now, it was just
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so special. And when I watched the tape, I just
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catched myself growing from here to Iraq an idiot because
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pulled it off.
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Higher.
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You can see itself. He's employ har We talked about
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the second.
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Third win that basketball player tho arcal athletes will get
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and now he's smiling.
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I think that looking back out celebrities who've been bothering,
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we've had a tongue.
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We's gonna wing for the Celebrities Hall of Fame.
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Karl Malone needs.
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To be in that way.
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Final thoughts, that's a time car beat me. No finals,
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no finals, no finals. We got the ring, he didn't,
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So he kicked my eyes in a ring. That's okay.
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That's okay. That's a story.
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I never in all the years I've been doing this
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grand sport, remember so much anticipation and build up to
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one match, not only in pro wrestling amongst our fans,
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but in the sports world.
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Malone never dreamed as a little kid being a basketball player.
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He dreamed to be a wrestler.
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I think the tag.
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Match involving Karl Malone and Dennis Robin was one of
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the highlights of my career.
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I've got Phil Jackson calling me, going, where's my guy at?
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Where's my guy at? I'm gonna Robin and Phil Jackson
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keeps blowing on my phone. You gotta go back, he goes,
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I don't want to go back. All the lines were bordered.
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Who do you hear me?
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Went to Diamond Color.
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I said, thank god, this is over.
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The Allegiance switched from WWE to w c W. We
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were really really running hard. We had everybody's attention, you know,
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everybody wanted to be involved.
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So they're looking for, like, what can we do that
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the other show doesn't have? And so WCW goes to
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the tried and true well of celebrities and pro wrestling matches.
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I just think it's something so special to take a
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celebrity that's really really established and take them out of
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their element and just see the reaction of how they
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react and how the fans react to them.
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It's easy to laugh at some of these matches. You know,
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you can make fun of David Arkat or whoever, for
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all you want, but this is a part of wrestling history,
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going back to its very earliest days. You know, we
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had like world boxing champions would come referee wrestling matches
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just to like give wrestling that little sheen of significance
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in the sports landscape.
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And then to take those athletes and bring them into
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the world of sports entertainment. It gets a ton of
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media coverage, and I think the additional media coverage in
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and of itself is one of the reasons why the
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audience gets excited about it.
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It's kin they d.
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No, they's not going into.
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What WCW did in ninety eight was. I think they
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kind of shocked everybody because they didn't go to the
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regular well.
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Of football players.
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They went to the pro basketball world and they got
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charm Alone of the Utah Jazz and Dennis Rodman of
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the Chicago Bulls. He and Karmeloone are squaring off in
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the in the finals. The Bulls and the Jazz or
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Gus for the second year in a row, and they're
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both power forwards. They're guarding each other in every possession.
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Robin is notoriously like pesky defender. His only job out
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there is to make karmelone's life a living. How it's
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very organic, you know. I mean, these guys already hate
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each other, they just sort of end up having a
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match in w CW. Somehow it makes all the sense
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in the world.
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Dennis Rodman, the worm is here, the how many Moments
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up WCW Monday Night Troil Hong Kong, Dennis Rodman together
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Eric Bitchamin.
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Toe and two men who will form a giant Gunnick
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tech team at the mid evned Bash.
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Of the Beach.
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Rozilla was perfec because he was a monster. As a
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monster was social life and public he was wherever he went.
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He created chaos.
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When Dennis and WCW F started working together, Dennis wanted
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a tour bus, so I.
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Said, well, what the hell, it's not that big of
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a deal. We'll get him a tour bus for four
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or five days or a week.
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And it was towards the end of the night and
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after an event and Dennis said, you know, I want
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to stop at a gentleman's club. And I thought, well,
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what the hell, you know, the night's over. That's what
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he wants to do, you know, no problem. So there
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was a number of high profile names and sports entertainment
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who were part of the crew, and we all went
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into the Gentleman's club and everybody had a great time.
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When it was starting to get late and I'm looking
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around and going, okay, where's Dennis.
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Knows anybody seen Dennis. Couldn't find Dennis.
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So we went up to one of the security guys
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that were part of our team and said, hey, I
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haven't seen Dennis.
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Here for forty five minutes or an hour.
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Any idea where he is because we should probably wrap
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this up, you know, get out of here.
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And he said, I think he's out on the bus.
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All right, we'll go out of the bus and see
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what's going on. And not expecting anything that I thought,
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maybe he's sleeping out on the.
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Bus or whatever, having a beer, you know. I didn't
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know what to expect.
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And got out there and there's a couple of security
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guys you know, standing outside the bus and they opened
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the door for me and said you sure you want
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to go in there?
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And I went, yeah, why not?
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You know, I know Dennis pretty well, we're cool.
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And I walked I walked in that bus.
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And it was like a scene from Colligula.
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I mean, I went, oh, this is going to be
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a long tour.
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This is the way you think that I learned from
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you that bus last year.
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Remember, wow to a bus.
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Brother was like because if you're hear stories about you know,
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wrestler's back then in eight seventies and eighties and nineties.
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They was just this full blown, just out of control.
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I mean they would they would just sit there a
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party all day, party all night. And I think that's
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the reason why they like me being in the situation
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in that situation because they knew I could handle that.
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And for me to be involved with Bishoff and all
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those guys, man, that was just like icing on the
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cake for me. Because you know, living in Texas, Dallas, Texas,
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when they had the Banerics, had the ban Neics back
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in the day, That's all we watched was wrestling back then.
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You know, it was like wrestling or Dallas Cowboys. That
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was it, you know, that was it for us. The
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whole culture there, so rastling. I watched it every saday, Man,
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let's get it, and I said, I got no problem
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doing that, and I always wanted to do it.
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I'm Glady benshoff Es me.
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The guy he locked up. Guys, how about that? Why
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back Christ like turn up black Iron's back. I pulled
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off backac.
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Looked back at like gorgeous George. And we've seen a
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lot of wrestlers with bleached hair and robes since then,
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but at the time, to have like curled hair that
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was bleached blonde that somebody sprang perfume behind you, to
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have like a fine sequined robe or whatever coming to
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the ring, this was just a signifier of everything you're
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supposed to hate in the world. And Dennis Rodman had
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a very specific sense of style. I'm sure he was
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very into it himself, but he would dress and drag
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specifically just to like make people mad. He was trying
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to become a heel and he was and he succeeded
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at it.
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Well. Robinin had an incredible amount of heat. He was
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an anti establishment, anti athlete. He would drink seventy five
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comic Cozees and go set another record on the basketball
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court and then drink seventy five more Kma cozees. After
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the game.
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We had Instagram a social media Backdan, I always tell
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people I Begionaire.
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Should I tell you straight up?
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I think a lot of people stid to really dig
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what I was doing, and I said, Wow, this guy
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just basketball player. He's just all around entertainer pre period,
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nor that he knows how to win. He knows how
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to win every department of life and all. So he
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would have went everywhere.
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So when he transcended over to our business and walked
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in a main event position, everybody hated it. Even the
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wrestlers hated it. Everybody wanted to see him get his
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ass kicked. I think the wrestlers in the back and
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one to see it even more than the fans.
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Because he was arrogant.
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He wouldn't show up on time.
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We'd have ring time set aside for all of us
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to work out with them, and we had very busy schedules,
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and he'd come walking in, you know, an hour and
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a half, two hours late. I could smell booze all
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over his breath, you know. But when the red light
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went on and we were live in front of a camera,
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he was genius.
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Hollywood, man with style, man with class, n W comes
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to town.
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It's a new world or the Baby, That's what it's.
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Going to be.
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Me and my good friend, God, it's four.
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Li Roblin was my guy, you know, I knew him
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forever and we were really close friends. But Diamond Dallas
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Page bonded with Malone.
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I was at this big autograph signing in Houston, Texas.
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I was actually there for two days and someone said
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to me, Hey, do you want to go to see
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the Rockets play night? I said absolutely, I want to
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go and check the game out. And they go, oh,
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they're playing Utah Jazz. I was like, oh, man, I
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love to see Malone play. We're all twenty rows up
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and they're at a you know, just a little time out,
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and Malone is looking up and he does this Russ Foreman,
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who's our photographer. I was like, oh my god, Belone
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just did the Diamond Cutter sign. And he starts grabbing
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for his camera and he put his camera and he
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said backstage.
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Passes for me and Russ Forman.
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And at some point I get a he calls outside,
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so I walk outside.
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I'm like, hey, man, gives.
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Me a big hug super you know, big personality, and
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you know, here's my number, bro I said.
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We exchanged numbers, and I said, if you.
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Ever want to like get in a ring and like
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play around a little bit, and I go, I can
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make that happen really easily.
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Right as we only need this mans in the size
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and Simon Dallas Page has been stunning twenty four hours
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a day.
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If you look at home alone back then we take
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those old pictures. He looked like a wrestler.
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I mean he was. He was built for it. I
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mean he was like two forty two fifty two fifty.
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Five, I mean just solid, right, I'm just budding on
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like two twenty five of that.
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I heard Rodman was coming in again, and I that
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did a phenomenal job the first time because he embodied
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the heel.
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He embodied the show.
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Many even watching our stuff since he was a little baby,
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you know, and love it just like Carl.
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I thought, I wonder if Malone would do this.
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So I called him up and I said, hey, big Man,
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Rodman's coming in again. I said, would you consider wrestling
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with me against Rodney and Hogan? Yeah, I think I would.
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Now. Eric Bischoff lived on the other side of the hill,
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two houses away from me. We walked on his deck.
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We're having a beer. I said, I got an idea.
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I said, what if it was me and Malone against
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Rodney and Ogan?
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And I thought, wow, that would be hard to believe
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that it could happen.
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So I have to give a lot of credit to
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DDP for bringing Carol Malone into the picture.
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To me, this guy right here is the hardest working
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man in professional sports, especially when it comes to basketball.
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And I know, but you know it's funny. I think
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they pissed that because of what happened in the playoffs.
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You know, we kept bounding each other, kept hitting each other,
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kept delbowing each other, stuff like that.
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Why am I Carmel and Dennis shammin.
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One of the reasons that I invested so much money
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in Carly and Dennis for that particular pay per view
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is because I knew that I would get advertising in
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mainstream sports media.
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That I could never afford to buy.
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I knew that every sports writer would be criticizing both
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Carl and Dennis for stepping into the world in sports
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entertainment because, Jase, your professional athletes and you should never
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get involved with something like that. I knew that wrestling,
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you know, media would be so super were critical. All
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of that added up to a ton of press, a
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ton of med that, like I said, we couldn't afford
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to buy.
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You know who holding gonna s sale? You know, you know,
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so it's like, hey, you can always kind of on
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what the hell he's gonna do. And then when you
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throw me in the mixing while the bad board NBA
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and you gotta call him along a guy from Utah,
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It's like, Wow, what a matchup.
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There's nothing more important. I was right, you know.
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One of the highlights of that period of time was
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Dennis Rodman decided to skip practice to attend a nightro.
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I knew it was.
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Going to create an issue within the Chicago Bulls and
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probably for Dennis, but I wasn't too worried about any gramifications.
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With regard to w CW, because it was really Dennis's choice.
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I've got Phil Jackson call me, going to where's my
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guy at? Where's my guy at?
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I'm gonna robin.
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Phil Jackson keeps blowing up my phone. You gotta go back,
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he goes, I don't want to go back. All the
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lines were blurred.
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Jordan didn't say too much to me because he knew
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the fact that no matter what I did off the court,
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I'm there, he'd have to worry about me.
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I was always dead to play.
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I knew I couldn't talk to Dennis and Carl about
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doing anything on court during play that would help promote WCW.
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But there was probably a conversation or two wink wank
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where someone may have said, hey, guys, if you get
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the opportunity off court during a stoppage in play or
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during a time out, do you have any kind of
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animated conversation.
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Between the two of you, if you get my drift.
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That would only help asked him.
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We said we were down to a fight that would
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have been excited as gemn.
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I'll have to make it more interesting for as a finalist.
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Dennis Rodman, he was always pushing an envelope and he
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did wrestling ads wrestling.
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You know, it's a circuits.
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When Malone did it, it changed the face of what
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was happening. Malone never dreamed as a little kid being
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a basketball player.
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He dreamed to be a wrestler.
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We'll ground man, it's a part of American culture, world culture.
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I didn't want to announce it, announce it. We're figuring
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out how we're going to do it, and one day
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it hit me.
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I call Eric up and I go, bro.
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You know, I talked to Carl and he said, whether
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they win or lose, he's going to be on the
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Tonight Show.
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We're not shooting this angle on the wrestling show. We're
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shooting this angle on the Tonight Show the world stage.
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Jane Wanno in the middle.
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That was that was me, hope.
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So anyway, so we were sitting there, I'm sitting there
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doing any help comes out.
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The next thing, you know, here come d d P.
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They come this way, and she thought to just get
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real quick. I mean, I didn't even respect that.
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Malona went, did you call Malona?
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You called Dinna? I didn't hear.
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Dennis.
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I did agree, I called it called out more than
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whim on the court.
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Brother.
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Really, it comes to that point where me and Malone
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come through the wings.
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Holding the chairs, throwing down the chairs, throwing up the
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diamond cutty sign.
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And you know, Diamon Dallas Page has never really cutting
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his hands on me, so it was a perfect opportunity
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for Domon Dallas Page to kick my butt. I didn't
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realize he was gonna do.
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It for for real t d piece if he said,
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I got oh what a shop man, Let me do this?
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Man, let me do it.
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So he did it and it actually actually came out
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pretty good. That's real, man, look like right not dde.
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Yeah, the adrenaline was so high, Drew carry I'll never forget. Well,
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it came up to me later and he goes true.
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Kerry said, oh my god, was that real? Oh my god,
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this is I was intense. The next day, Well then
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it was pandemonium.
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This year, we're going to bash the Beach ninety eight
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in San Diego, and I think the entire sports world
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is awaiting this announcement.
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I've seen press conferences before, you go when big things happen,
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Like big things happened.
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This was like Super Bowl. They were lined up everywhere.
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There's three things I wanted to do growing up as
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a kid.
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You know, I want to be a State trooper.
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I want to fly jets, and I wanted to raft it.
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I can't do those other two.
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Well, I thing I'm thinking about it just beating rod
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Zillo Sis.
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He got with him unk hole.
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No one ever called him that, but I called it like.
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A Coward a yellow belly power, and I'm looking forward
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to him.
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These two guys were too grace athletes I've ever been with.
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Karl Malone had the most intense work ethic. When he
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told me he was going to do this, he wanted
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to really do it, like he didn't want to do
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it where he came in and just did one little
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thing and got out like he came and trained with
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me at the power Plant on.
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And off for weeks.
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It was really uncomfortable working with Dennis in the very
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beginning in terms of training because you could never really
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tell if he was paying attention when we were training together.
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And it was limited amount of time to train with Dennis,
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partly because of his schedule and partly because Dennis just didn't.
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Like to prepare much.
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You could tell that he was picking it up, but
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he didn't have the same intensity that Karl Malone did.
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But game day for WCD, I mean, when the red
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light was on, he would shock you.
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Rodman had a good feel for what we actually did
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in the ring from day one. So it's nice to
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work with somebody that the physicality and the placement and
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the timing is already there. It's what we call them
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having it. Rodman had it. So to Karl Malone, we
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decided to go to this bar, and we all go
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to this bar. Someone to be stuff like that, drinking
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all night, all night. I remember that next day I
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had to really really deep.
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Man to do this.
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I was just I was cool.
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And I just asked this, guys, how do you guys
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do this all the time?
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Let me drink for this fifteen minutes of that match,
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I felt like hell, I said old.
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Once I started getting hit little me in war. I
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was cool. I was fine.
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Man.
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You know, one can only imagine what activities that Dennis
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Rodman has engaged in over the course in the past
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couple of weeks, and only a small portion of those
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activities made the national press.
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But some things he didn't.
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We kind of in here to talk about.
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And when Malone came out and took his shirt off
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and was there a DDP, the place exploded.
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Here's the mailman.
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I was really surprised because I saw Dennis get a
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little intimidated. I was supposed to actually rip Dennis's shirt off,
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but he told me to leave a shirt on. I
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don't think he wanted to take his shirt off and
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stand next to Malone because Carl looks so shocked.
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That's so big.
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It looks awesome.
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Is he and DP are here to find ladies and gentlemen?
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These four shirt off? Hold me and him? He took
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his off.
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I didn't take myself because you know, after the match
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I did, after the master, after the master, I did
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by doing a d a whole thing. I just want
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people to see the shirt.
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It's gonna be.
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Rod Zillah and the mailman and the recree calls call
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the bell and Razel still has his glasses on.
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Oh he's cool, you know, cars like you know, he's
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like heel strok. You know, he's that country bowing strong.
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Look at the sick of the mail tremendous shape. Diamond
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Dallas was a great shake.
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The moment when rod and the Malone locked up.
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He and Hogan were quite a tag team. They've locked up.
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The parents love a mess like just the physical contact
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side headlocked by Dennis Rodman.
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Just the moment of realizing this guy's have actually trained to.
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Russell gave the rucks damn goo up to the floor.
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I mean it wasn't exactly like Hogan slamming Andre. It
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wasn't just like the biggest finishing move you've ever seen
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at like a WrestleMania main event. But that first lock up,
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this felt like a huge moment.
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When he comes out, everybody notices he's there.
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Look, d d P hooked it up collar and elbow
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with Rodman and just pulled him down to the mat.
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Wow, there was a class act.
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So you spit at DDP at one point?
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Was that something that you guys talked about?
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No?
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No, because he d P was like a little selfish
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for a minute.
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They say all right now, or even let's go at.
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It and he'll look at me on the Okay, okay,
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let's do this life. Let's do it, and he'll sit
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there and hit me for real, I mean literally hit
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me for real.
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They're getting frustrated, guys. I learned drank rider, how about that?
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But I think that I just did it because it's
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more like it was easy for me to do that
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than anything else. If I would have went, I would
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have got a chair and took outside of the ring
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stuff like that.
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It would have got really.
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Ugly riding in a side headlock rod Bean and look
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at DDP ight away.
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I thought he delivered in all the spots that we
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need the ropes.
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To whoa, I tell you make it too. I'm looking
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at that half an halfway, I'm telling you.
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And when he added the batch down looked pretty sweet.
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It's an awful, confident looking Karl Malone. Look at the
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wings right on him, I mean from the fingertip to
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fingertips like a condor.
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You know.
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One of the things that really impressed me with Carl is.
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What he lacked in innery experience and technical ability, he
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was able to make up for just a sheer strength.
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For example, the body slam hull Coogan.
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You go back and look at that. It looks like
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he was throwing a fifty pound bag of you know,
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horse feed around.
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How about that.
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Flowing down memory.
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I've never been thrown around like that by any other man.
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Even Andre Mom had no bounds. I mean, if he
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wanted you over there, you'd just throw you over there.
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I was like, oh my god, this guy's so strong.
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And when he got in the ring, he had a
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certain feeling a peace where it was like I was
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in some mark that was grabbing, trying to walk up
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me and poking me in the eyre stepping on my
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feet or tripping over me.
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He was he was there.
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Oh, it's time to get the mail.
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All jumps in, dres to cut up and then runs
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it down. It's a good corn up and the mail
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man got the ball.
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Yes, that's not.
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Leave me calling all this. He was not gonna tell me,
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damn man, what jump from behind?
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It is.
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They trying to run rod fella.
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But he did what he did that move be honest, Richard,
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I said, thank god, this is over.
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When you hear me with the diamond color, I said, yeah,
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this is over.
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Disciples in though then disciple is in.
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He watches up dad, p.
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How can tell us what to day?
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I just I just love the fact that they gave
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us the opportunity to be there, an opportunity for people
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actually see us actually rustled against each other. I just
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wish the fact that they would have had us do
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a lot more doing that that summer. Me and call
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along O wways say, would have had us doing some
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really really cool, interesting things with them, you know Dond
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Hayes and Hulk Hogan, well even Randy Savage, all the
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guys that was back to back in the day. I
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wish it would have me and call Out do a
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whole lot of things, even having me in colleagues to
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do like a whole mess by myself.
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When I look at all of the pieces, two high
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profile athletes at the very peak of their careers.
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Coming off the playoffs.
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Stepping into the ring with Hulk Hogan, who was and
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probably still is one of the most recognized names in
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sports entertainment in the last thirty years. That was something
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that I think had never happened before and will probably
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never happen again. It was an amazing accomplishment and it's
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one that I'm it may not be the most successful
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thing I've ever done in this industry, but in many
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ways it's one that I'm most proud of.
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When I look knock at it now, it was just
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so special. And when I watched the tape, I just
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catched myself growing from here to Iraq an idiot because
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pulled it off.
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Higher.
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You can see itself. He's employ har We talked about
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the second.
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Third win that basketball player tho arcal athletes will get
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and now he's smiling.
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I think that looking back out celebrities who've been bothering,
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we've had a tongue.
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We's gonna wing for the Celebrities Hall of Fame.
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Karl Malone needs.
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To be in that way.
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Final thoughts, that's a time car beat me. No finals,
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no finals, no finals. We got the ring, he didn't,
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So he kicked my eyes in a ring. That's okay.
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That's okay. That's a story.
