Ready Ron Beats talks Seattle Hip Hop, Overcoming Obstacles, and Producing Music (Full Interview)

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Good morning, Hey y'all.
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What's go with it?
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Y'all, it's your boy Missed Wilson and you were now
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tuned in to Wilson Block one hundred Radio and we
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got a very special guest on the block with us today.
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Ready round beats, what's the latest and greatest? Good morning,
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good good, good.
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Listen.
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Man, I've been having this in the back of my
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head for a minute, you know what I mean, And
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now it's like, dang, you know, I'm you know, it's
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finally able to manifest it through consistency.
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And I've been looking forward to actually sitting down with you. Man.
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This is this is a blessing more than anything, no doubt,
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no doubt. Absolutely it's mutual show show.
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Oh yeah, man, So listen, man, you know you you know,
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stranger to the scene. Man, you've been around you know
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what I'm saying more than a few times, you know
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what I mean. Right, So you know, for our audience listening,
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you just hit us with a quick background.
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Oh shit, I am hip hop period.
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There's just nothing that that anybody can say or tell me.
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You know, been there, did that. Good and Bad.
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Was still in New York at the very at the
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earliest stages before it even made it out of New York.
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So right, so you come from New York, come from Brooklyn,
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New York. Hey, Yeah, tell us about life growing up there.
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I it was uh pandemonium, right, you know. I I
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I just appreciated the fact that I grew up in
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such a multi cultured environment that it taught you either
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to be uh cultured or in ingnoramus. And I chose
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to be cultured, which means I opened, you know, my
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heart and my mind up knowing that I was actually
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growing up with first and second generation Americans.
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You know.
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Ellis Island is the port that all immigrants came into
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this country through in New York before migrating to the rest.
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Of the country.
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And so I I grew up with pretty much every
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single culture from around the world.
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There wasn't just a little of this or a little
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of that, or it was a lot of this and
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a lot of that.
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Boklyn, Uh shit, your brook Le nighted, your leader doesn't matter.
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I was born in king I was born at King
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County Hospital. I lived in Bedford Stuyvesant, and I lived
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in Flatbush. I lived in Crime Heights, I lived in
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Williamsburg and Green Point.
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East New York, Brownsville.
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You know, I come from a tribe, and so you know,
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my mother was the youngest of a very large family,
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and so my aunts and uncles were all over Brooklyn.
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So wherever you went in that neighborhood, you were at
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home because my family was such a big family.
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Do you know what I mean? Right? Right?
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You know, you know I was born in the nineties,
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so I caught a little winded at that. I still
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kind of expect to see that in the village today,
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you know what I mean?
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Right, And that's a hard thing to swallow that it
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doesn't exist like.
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It really is.
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It really is.
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You know where you know your neighbors knew your family.
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You know, neighbor whoop you if they saw you cut nothing.
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Like and you say something disrespectful, because you're gonna get
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it worse when you get home. You know, if you
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visiting one friend on the block and they're cooking, you're actually.
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Gonna be having dinner with them.
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They will call your mother and say, hey, I'm cooking,
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and Ronnie is gonna be here, you know what I mean.
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That's the way I grew up, where it was a
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village that raised that raised us you know what I mean,
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and those values are pretty much non existent. You know, yeah,
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it's pretty much non existent. And so you grew up
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in New York into what age period?
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Period period?
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Because no matter where I went and migrated to, I
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always ended up back.
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Did you get what I'm saying.
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My mom passed away when I was about thirteen. Met
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family members that I didn't know existing, and they thought
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I was joking when I said I'll be coming to
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visit because it was important for me to educate myself
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and the bridge that gap, because there were a lot
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of missing pieces, you know, from my parents past in
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history that.
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I needed to know about.
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I'm the youngest of five kids, and my mom divorced
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her husband and met my father. My father divorced his
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wife and met my mother. I found I had other
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brothers and sisters around the country, and I made a
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pilgrimage to find them, and you found them.
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I found him, Yeah, I found them.
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You know, a lot of family in Texas, a lot
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of family in California.
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I need to say all over the country. I need
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to say all over the.
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Country because I can't narrow it down to just one
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place to get what I'm saying. Because you know, when
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your mother's like the youngest of like fourteen kids and
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she's the only one that had less than ten.
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Yeah, you got some. You got some some branches out there.
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So you know, I always, regardless of, like even my
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past bad behavior, I always thought that if you can
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be cultured, then do it.
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Take advantage of it. Learn as much as you can.
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Because no matter what this legal system attends to do
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to you, the one thing they can't take away from
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you is your education unless they are knowledge. And the
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more that you observe I mean not observed, but absorb,
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that makes you a better you.
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And that's it exactly. You know. The best investment we
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can make is in our set.
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But yeah, yeah man, So you know, let's talk about
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the music, okay, because you know, I don't want to just,
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you know, start off with Chinatown's greatest missing you know,
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I kind of want to lead into that, you know
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what I mean.
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I grew up.
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I grew up, like I said, before hip hop was
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even out of New York.
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I had a brother that DJ and cousins that DJ.
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All that shit that y'all hear about on on documentaries
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and stuff like that, about how people would take equipment
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out to the park and plug into the life.
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I lived that. I lived that.
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And so you know, there are a lot of people
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who do music that are.
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A part of pop hop, but they aren't hip hop, right.
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Pop hop is how the you know what, the corporate
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America how they took over and and just manipulated and
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manipulated and controlled the direction of this music because this
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isn't hip hop, you know what I mean, even most
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of these reality TV shows, it has nothing to do
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with the culture. It's just chaos, mayhem and pandemonium in ignorance.
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So in your opinion, you know, at what age or
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ex season, what year was it that you.
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Kind of saw that.
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Okay, hey man, you know corporations are kind of running.
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Away with this thing. Where it really started to be noticeable.
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In the two thousands, in the late nineties and in
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the late nineties and the early two thousands, because you
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started noticing that that it was becoming diluted. And what
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happened was Black Entertainment Television b ET was no longer
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owned by black people. And the one show now, I
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don't take nothing away from Doctor dre and ed Lover,
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from your MTV raps or fab five Freddie. But that
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was the one show that shared hip hop from around
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the country and.
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Even you know, some cats from out of.
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The country, which means it showed variety and diversity.
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And the first show that when.
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B Et was brought out that was canceled was The Basement.
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The Basement would have artists come in, he would interview them,
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he would put him in the booth and so and
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these weren't just you know, our auto tune cats that
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are crossing R and B over these are these are
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real lyricists and having interviews with them, and so it
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brought you a little closer and you saw them more
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of the human side other than the entertainment side, you
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know what I mean, Where nowadays you know that's not
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the case.
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You know, it's all a gimmick.
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Now, it's all a gimmick, you know, And these these
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poor bastards don't know that they're really selling their souls,
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you know what I mean.
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You could be one of the.
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Hottest lyricists right now, one of the most technical lyricists
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and have some of the deepest and most conscious writing,
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but they're not gonna fuck with you because you're not gimmicky.
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What people do is it. They'll offer you a deal.
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You don't know any better. They'll offer you a deal.
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You know, they'll say, we'll give you, we'll give you
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a five million dollar signing bonus. But you have to
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put this monkey suit on and stick this banana up yet.
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And that's just what it is. And that's why naturally
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find somebody to do it.
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Because some people don't know any better, because that's the
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opportunity that they have to get out of.
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The situation they're in. Now.
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Mind you, like I said, the nail in the coffin
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was when b Et was brought out and they got
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rid of the show the Basement because, like I said,
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you're not seeing all of these other artists. You're not
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getting in touch with these other artists. You're not seeing
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the differences of what the rest of the country is
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contributing to the culture.
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So what's next for music or hip hop music?
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It was MTV two and that was the one that
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they constantly played video. They played and they played music videos,
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but it was controlled music videos.
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Now, I got nothing against two chains or anything like that,
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but you weren't getting any more self empowering. You weren't
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getting any more dear, Mamma's or.
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Where is the Love or anything along the lines of
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any self empowerment. They pushed the agenda of self destructive behavior.
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And you don't even hear the women singing like Tony
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Braxton used to sing, you know.
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Yeah, because yeah, that R and B stuff is dope.
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But I'm talking about even our hip hop artists because
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the last great I'm not taking away from all these
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other artists, but the last great, great female hip hop
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album to get credit was The Miseducation of Lauren Hill
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because it talked about empowering women. It talked about and
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me and my my significant other had a conversation the
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other night about the song wop and I take nothing
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away from uh anybody's creativity and hard work, but I
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think it's really sad that only females and male artists
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of color are the only ones that have to go
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through gimmicky stuff, be self destructive, be violent in order
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to get hurt or to get pushed, because this is
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the eeric of the drug addict, not the drug dealer.
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So if you're not talking.
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About lean molly bottles, drinking strip clubs, this that anything
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that's that's that's any form of of of.
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Not corruption, dysfunction.
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Dysfunction, then that's fine.
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Just like I said, with these with these shows like
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Love and Hip Hop, that shit has.
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Nothing to do with the music.
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It really does and the image that they're giving to
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our children, and it's poison the children, our children of color.
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Nothing that they're doing is giving them any positive insight.
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It's teaching our women of color that their natural beauty
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isn't good enough. You have to be you have to
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be ignorant, illiterate. You got kids now wearing wigs when
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it was your mama's and your grammy's wearing wigs.
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So your natural hair isn't.
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Good enough, exactly, bleaching your skin, your natural coloration isn't
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good enough.
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Selling sex?
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Why is that the only way female artists can get attention?
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And one of the top female.
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I'm not saying rappers, mc'ss is not getting the love
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that she deserved.
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And that's Rhapsody.
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You know, she did a song, she did a song
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I think it was emon and it starts off within
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the first four bars that she did this without selling sex.
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And that's a skill.
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That's heavy, that's heavy, that's very and she's she's actually
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pretty dope.
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She's one. She's a part man.
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Listen, she's not a gimmick.
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No no, no, no, no, no no no. But you
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know you have to be half dressed. You have to,
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you have to.
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You know. My thing is, like I said, I don't
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take anything away because sex cells. But I think it's
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sad that it's only the women of color in this
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music genre that minorities. I don't and I don't know
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nothing about minority and majority. I'll take people, you know,
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people of people of color.
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Why do women and people of color have to that
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has to be the narrative in order for you to
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get attention in the music industry. And it's a bad
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look in our children, and it gives a bad impression
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to our kids.
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Mind you. Once again, I don't take anything.
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Away from anybody's hard work, because you've worked hard. But
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at some point, you know you've got to you gotta
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really pay attention to the narratives, you know.
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Georgia N.
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Muldrow is a poet, a beat maker at MC Extraordinary
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and she did a joint called pop Icons, and in
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her verse she said, I'm not trying to be in
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your business. I'm not trying to be your business. Be
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in your business, but pay attention. Kids are listening.
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Heavy, thank you, thank you, like even me, like you know,
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I'm real conscious of that. I'm real conscious of the
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music I play in my car. If I'm rolling down
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the street and a parent's walking with their kid, you know,
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I turn it. If I'm listening to Son, you know,
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I'm not just mindful of things like that.
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What do what I say?
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So you know, uh, you know that and you listen
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to my music.
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I'm all about, you know, by the positive role model
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and trying to you know, just doing.
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Our part bingo bingo.
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So you know you definitely Pepe Gang because pretty much
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when you talk about late nineties two thousands as far
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as seeing that corporate right.
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You know, I was a kid.
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I was eight, nineteen eleven, twelve, right, so you know
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I didn't see it. You know, I was part of
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the whole. I wouldn't say I was going part of it,
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but you know I didn't know. Nobod you didn't know.
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You didn't know this was happening, just like people weren't
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aware of the secret meaning to use hip hop as
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a way of.
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Yeah, growing up, to me, that was a myth. It
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was like almost just some rhetoric too.
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That was fact, you know, on where they were going
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to try to use the music two for the.
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Prison for profit.
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Yeah, whole sitting there, I write, the whole pipeline, the
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whole pipeline, the whole pipeline.
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And so how did you because at the that point
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where you're doing music back then, I don't even know
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if I asked that, but so you was like, Okay,
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I'm gonna have to shift gears a little bit or
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I'm gonna have to alter my strategy on how I'm
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approached the game because this is how they getting down.
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I already know what I'm doing, what I'm not gonna do,
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and I gotta move accordingly.
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I mean, you know, there was no there.
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Was no real strategy involved. It's like these cops are
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killing us. There's right and there's wrong.
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Period.
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What I might proceed to be wrong someone else it
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might be right for them, but I'm not here to
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pass judgment on them.
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I know that.
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You know, I have a responsibility, you know what I mean,
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I have a responsibility, and there's nothing wrong.
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There's nothing wrong with some of the music today.
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A lot of it is these cats are extremely talented,
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but why is it all one dimensional and why will
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they only allow that? Like you said, the corporate corporates
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now basically own pretty much everything, you know, Like back then,
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we had several, you know, major major music stores, music
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stores and labels that were that were all minority owned,
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even though they were backed by major labels, they were
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doing what they did. Now that's not the case, because
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this is why you don't get the variety. You don't
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get the variety anymore despite all the different subgenres that
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have been created.
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By hip hop.
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It really kind of makes me.
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Created from hip hop. Let me rephrase it.
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It really just makes me just ignore the whole top forty.
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If it's top forty, then I'm kind of like, yeah,
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you know, I'm just sometimes it's hard to believe.
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My thing is, I think it's best to pay attention
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to educate yourself because sometimes they say seeing is believing,
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and if you don't see it for yourself, you.
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Don't understand it. You and how do you understand it
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if you don't know.
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Right right right right, we'll see top forty, you gonna
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hear top forty. I mean so so as far as
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like you know, going to the chart and really fucking
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with those songs.
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I mean, you might have a high someone to make
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top four, you know what I mean.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I mean niggas go number one, oh you know, oh yeah, And.
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You know, just for the record, I've been surprised.
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I checked out number one Billboard and was actually impressed
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with what was up there too. So you know, let
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me fall back a little bit on that, right right,
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because you know, top forty, top forty for a reason,
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you know what I'm saying. But real quick, let's talk
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about how how you got into music, you know what
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I'm saying. How you what you got started doing and
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you know who you was working with?
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Oh shit, I was always involved somehow, whether listening, respecting
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and enjoying, you know what I mean, whether it because
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like it's a culture, hip hop, real hip hop is
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a culture, you know what I mean.
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And you were a lot of things that came with it.
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Like in DJ I was breakdancing, I did graffiti, do.
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You know what I mean?
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In the art of a mic stalking was just which
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was just a whole other thing.
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Because in high school, you know.
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I got with some guys they called themselves the Fun
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four de Kwan, Easy, jef Ski and Lachine, and uh
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we we we did what we did.
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We had fun.
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Nothing really jumped off from it, you know, but we
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were we were local.
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Heroes in our high school battling. Uh. They didn't want
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that problem because we weren't out. We weren't out to
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be idiots.
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Because back then, you know, we were doing more you know,
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live performance routines.
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Where you said, yeah, that's when I was breakdancing and
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all that did live performance routines and not just the dancing,
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but it was you know, it was it was more fun,
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feeled and entertaining, regardless of you know, my man, you know,
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Derek Payne de.
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Quan, uh say, like Stevie Wonder. So a lot of
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our stuff was was vocally hook based other than just
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just rapping and chanting and stuff like that, right right, right,
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do you know what I mean? So it was a
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kind of like a well rounded machine for us to
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be as young as we were.
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And then uh, my mother passed.
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And yeah, my mother passed and I was wild and out.
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So you know, my brother was going.
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To school up in uh Suity Purchase, which is in
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White Plains, New York, and.
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He lived in Yonkers.
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I heard Yonkers is where.
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It's at Yonkers is wild as hell.
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But but while he was still working and going to college,
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I was still traveling and going to school, and I
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had to walk past school street projects in order to
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get to the bus to get to Because everything I did,
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I did the opposite of the right thing.
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Always.
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I always went the dark path. And that's how I met,
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you know, Earl Simmons. That's that's and you know, I'm
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not even gonna touch the DMX thing. I'm not gonna
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touch that at all. He I'm very proud of him.
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I've got nothing bad to say despite you know, the
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two interviews that were done on b ET and on
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uh VH one that you know, lied outright lied on me.
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Oh really yeah yeah wow.
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Were talking about the dog.
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Yeah yeah, I did an interview would be et about
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cause they just came out with the Chronicles of Rough Riders.
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They paid me for two pictures, and I made it
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very clear I do not, you know, want to be
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a part of any of that bullshit that happened with
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VH one where they lied and said I was the
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one that introduced him the crack cocaine and the full
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they did the full interview and I told detailed information
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about you know how he was smoking angel dust back
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then and passed me a dust blunt that got.
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Me sick as fuck.
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But once again, he's one of the most talented artists,
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and I'm nothing but proud of him, you know, regardless
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of the the trials and tribulations that he's going through,
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I'm still very proud of him. And I don't want nothing.
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I don't want nothing but to see people win. And
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I'm glad that he was blessed in the way that
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he was despite.
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All the chaos. Did I use producing music for him?
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Nah, that was your boy. That was on boy.
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He was rapping all right, So so so what's so
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with your boy Dragon?
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Dragon was on the scene or.
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You know, No, No, that was long before. That was
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way way before before.
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Rough Riders, because we were going from projects to projects,
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battling catch because back then, early years, Yeah, I mean
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back then, he wasn't even really.
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Rapping because when I met him, when I met him,
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he was, uh, he was battling some kids that were
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kind of tag teaming them. And I like the fact
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that even though he was out matched, he wasn't giving
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up because he was beat boxing and rapping beat boxing
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and rapping. But these guys were going in and so
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I walked over and I asked him. I said, Yo,
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how long can you beat for? He said, man, I
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don't know. I said, when your man finished, When your
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man finished, I'm gonna light them like I'm gonna light
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them up. They're not, they don't they don't light them
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up like so, and so he started beating.
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I started rapping, and They're like, nah, nah, where the
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fuck you come from. I'm like, nah, I'm with him,
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hold on, bro. They were like, okay, you can get
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it too. Oh yeah, mind you.
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I'm from the era of sixty bars and better not
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just you don't get me your hot sixteen, you know
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what I mean. And so these cats were doing bits
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and pieces and going back and forth, and so once
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I started, they're okay, okay, okay, I said, bro.
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I'm not done. No no, no, no, no, that's not
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one rhyme. I said, bro that I'm not done yet.
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Let me feel.
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So it got to the point where they were like,
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fuck this all off the top, mostly off the top, writtens,
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but mostly mostly off the top. Some writtens put in there,
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because sometimes you have to have what you call a reset.
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Certain certain lines.
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That are a reset for you, that you know, that'll
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that'll that'll put you back in a certain place.
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I mean, so it was freestyle as far as how
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you was pertaining to them, but your writteness to kind.
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Of there was some writtens in between to keep me
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you know what I mean.
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Look, I heard you freestyle, man, like you wanted the best.
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So you if not the best, I'm just gonna put.
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That on the rest.
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Now, I'm not I'm a bunch of I'm a member
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of an eclectic group. I'm not one of the best.
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I'm one of the members. I'm one of the members
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pull their weight right of an eclectic group. Man. And
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there's so many talented people out there that I'm just
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so blessed to have shared moments with. But I rocked
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with him for a minute, but we were both knuckleheads.
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And so got in trouble.
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Got an option even though you know, my brother had
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gotten me into a program called upward Bound because my
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grades were never bad.
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I was just up.
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I just rebelled against the world, and so I was
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given a choice, you know, whether I can go to
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jail or go to job corps. Now, mind you, Regardless
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00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.119
of my brother of my brother getting me hooked up
495
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.759
into the upward mail program, which you go to a
496
00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:16.599
college and get your credits, your credits your high school
497
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.920
and your college credits. But I screwed all of that.
498
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.839
Up, chose a dark path.
499
00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:28.960
Ended up in Buffalo. I finished that program, ended up.
500
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:31.960
I messed with a few people there, didn't rap as
501
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:35.640
much because at that point I was like, I still
502
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.039
got to live life on life terms.
503
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:39.880
Ended up crossing the border.
504
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.119
Spent a lot of time in Canada, A lot of
505
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:44.880
time yea.
506
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.240
London, Ontario, Canada, Canada.
507
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.920
Wrapped there a little bit, and it wasn't something that
508
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.599
I took very seriously, but it was it was being
509
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.200
part of the music itself that was most important to me,
510
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.160
you know, because in the process, you know, I didn't
511
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.079
just wrap. I learned how to make beats. I learned
512
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.440
how to make beats. I learned how to make what
513
00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:09.559
you make beats on.
514
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:11.400
Oh my god, what did.
515
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:12.480
And I what did you start on?
516
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:17.599
Do O D foot peddler? Oh damn sampler?
517
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:19.880
So you you was actually using hardware d.
518
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:25.799
D foot pedal, pedal sampler, a Yamaha four track, and
519
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:26.920
a whole lot of samples.
520
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.480
I would sampling, drum loops and stuff like that.
521
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.440
And then I got my hands on an Eleasi's HR
522
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:36.319
sixteen drum machine and learned how to use the drum
523
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:41.440
machine with samples. And the more that I surrounded myself
524
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.920
around people, the more that I learned.
525
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:45.839
I asked questions.
526
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:47.920
Just like I said about growing up with first and
527
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.039
second generation Americans and being cultured, I learned things, so
528
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:57.079
I asked questions, and you know, progression, I got a
529
00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.640
little better, a little better, and a little better and
530
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:01.519
a little better.
531
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.799
And that's what happens. Do you find you find your
532
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:06.000
grooves right right?
533
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:09.799
So with you already rapping before that, yeah, yeah, okay,
534
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:13.720
So at what point did you want to take or
535
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.000
want to be a producer over like pursuing a career
536
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:17.960
as an artist.
537
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.960
I wanted to be all around educated, whether it be
538
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:29.759
beat making, engineering, the mic, live performances.
539
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:32.640
Do you know what I mean? Because even now you
540
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:38.640
know I have my own professional pa.
541
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.559
Now you get what I'm saying, and with enough power
542
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:46.160
to do a small thing or something big enough, you
543
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.240
know what I mean? And so I just wanted to
544
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.359
be well rounded as far as the music itself, because
545
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.599
if you're not truly a part of it. You're just
546
00:26:53.640 --> 00:27:00.920
faking moves. You're just faking moves, you know. And like
547
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:02.640
I said, I just I am hip hop and I
548
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:03.000
love it.
549
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:03.759
No doubt.
550
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:08.000
So so what what uh inspired your journey out of
551
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:08.440
New York?
552
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:10.039
What what brought you to Seattle?
553
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:12.880
Family?
554
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.119
I told you I was making pilgrimages, you know, I
555
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.319
was making pilgrimages and finding family members and stuff like that.
556
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.599
But at that time, you know, it was it was.
557
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.480
Really a dark time with me, you know, And so
558
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:31.079
I ended up coming here. I ended up coming here,
559
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.119
and I left, but I kept coming back, and I
560
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:39.680
left and I came back, and each visit became longer.
561
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.400
Because, like I said, that was during a dark time
562
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:43.960
in my life.
563
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.640
That was during the days that you know I was,
564
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.119
I was drinking real crazy and getting high like a
565
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.039
like a madman, you know what I mean. And so
566
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.720
everything that I did was was built around drinking and
567
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.599
getting high.
568
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.640
You know what I mean. And so yeah, yeah, we
569
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.279
go do that. Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
570
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:03.759
Well, you know it is good to see that.
571
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:05.480
You got to hold on that, you know what I mean.
572
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.200
Be coming up for fourteen years old and congratulations, seriously,
573
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.240
or seriously, you know what I mean, because you know,
574
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.200
you know I mean letters from some weird Ay day
575
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.000
and you know I am struggling with it, but you
576
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.240
know I am mindful of it though, you know what
577
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:18.519
I mean, and I do know it is something that
578
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.359
is gonna have to be tackled at some point, no doubt. So,
579
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:25.640
but uh, you know, so let's talk about some music projects.
580
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.519
You know what I'm saying. You know, you know what
581
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:29.759
are some projects you've worked on? You know who are
582
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.000
some artists? You know what I'm saying.
583
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.440
I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not the name
584
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.279
calling type because I always thought when guys jump out
585
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.319
the window or jump out the plane without a bara
586
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.480
shoot like that, I think that is just being boastful
587
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.440
and not being thankful that you had you had the opportunity.
588
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.880
To share a moment with somebody else talented and I've
589
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.240
done and letting that be that.
590
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.160
Yeah, you know what I mean, because I was interviewed
591
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:57.000
a couple of times and I told them that's not
592
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.519
really what it is for me. What it is is
593
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.559
it was more of me being blessed with having to
594
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.240
share that moment with that town as an individual whether
595
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.000
it be the Sword School project, would Julie See and
596
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:13.640
Santonio Bandanas, whether you know doing Mojo Barnes project or
597
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.160
or Sole the Interrogator or Jewel Site for or all
598
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.359
the other singles that I've you know, that I've put
599
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.559
out or have created with other people. I'm thankful that
600
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.960
we had the opportunity to share that moment.
601
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.359
But there's a long list the.
602
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.119
Beats that I didn't just gave out and people have
603
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.279
recorded on you know r ls from Black Magic Noise, uh.
604
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:43.440
Molecule, uh Dead Mics.
605
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.400
I mean I could go on and on and on,
606
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:57.000
Mario Cassolini Piece and Red Velvet, uh Ill Writers Guild.
607
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.039
Like I said, the list is the list this unbelievable.
608
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.440
The listen is unbelievable. And some projects that I'm really
609
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.079
not proud of.
610
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.640
So you know, right right, right right, So let me
611
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.359
ask you what is like, you know, your creative process
612
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:11.480
when you produce some beats?
613
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:11.680
Right?
614
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:11.799
Like?
615
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.680
Where do you draw inspiration from to kind.
616
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.200
Of get your lead in whatever I feel? Is there
617
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.480
any particular I feel?
618
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:19.480
Do you start?
619
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.319
You know, when I starting whatever?
620
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.119
I start with a drunk kid. You might start whatever
621
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:23.759
whatever I.
622
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.799
Feel, whatever I feel at at that moment. Sometimes you'll
623
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.039
find the right sample, do you know what I mean.
624
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.200
Sometimes you'll watch the right movie. Sometimes you'll be in
625
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.640
an elevator and you'll hear something. At some point, you know,
626
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.519
you'll be at a a centa or drink or get high.
627
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.359
So you know, whether I'm at a spot where they
628
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.119
playing club, where they playing music, whether it be a
629
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:46.920
movie I seen.
630
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.880
You get what I'm saying, whatever I'm feeling.
631
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.240
If I run across the right sample, it's what I
632
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.359
do on top of the sample. You know, because my
633
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:00.319
better half will tell me that you'll know what mood
634
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.519
I'm in because the beats will be either bright or
635
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:08.119
they'll be dark. Right because a lot of times, you know,
636
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.480
when everything was set up at home, you know, she
637
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.759
used to make a big deal, you know, and she
638
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.759
would come in and says, Okay, what did you do today?
639
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.799
And I'll go okay, and I'll play it and she'll go,
640
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.839
oh what happened? And I'm like, what do you mean?
641
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.559
She said, Well, something's got you feeling like this right now?
642
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.359
She would read you based off of the temperature of
643
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.759
the music, got you feeling, Oh, you're in a good
644
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.200
mood today. You know what I mean. That's that's a
645
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.359
pretty happy melody you got going on.
646
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.119
And I just always told her, I said, well, you know,
647
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.720
being one dimensional never ever get you anywhere.
648
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.319
It's like speeding to a red light.
649
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:50.480
Right exactly.
650
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.039
You know what I mean, You're getting nowhere real fast.
651
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:58.559
So if I don't remain teachable and open minded, then
652
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.400
I'm just gonna be like the rest of these idiots
653
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.839
that are either like a hamster in a wheel going
654
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:12.000
nowhere real fast, or like a dog chasing a park car. Yeah,
655
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.000
just makes no sense, right.
656
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:14.599
All right?
657
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.640
So I want to shift gears real quick, you know
658
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.759
what I'm saying. And you know, as long as you
659
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.119
open and talking about it, you know, I mean, I
660
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.200
really want to talk about the whole overcoming aspect, you
661
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.880
know what I mean, and that you know you have
662
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:28.640
been to prison, yes, you know.
663
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:29.119
What I mean.
664
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:31.160
And uh, you know, I know a lot of people
665
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.480
that have been to prison. I mean, I've been to
666
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.039
I didn't seen everything, but that gotcha. So you know,
667
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.440
I just want to talk about, you know, what was
668
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.160
the journey like for you? You know what I'm saying,
669
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:40.839
both challenges and rewards.
670
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:53.960
I didn't realize I was a part of uh the
671
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.200
prison pipeline.
672
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:00.839
I wasn't aware how unfairly things were for people of
673
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:07.960
color in comparison to you know, other people. They will
674
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.519
do anything they can, whether innocent or not, to get
675
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.920
you to take a complete deal or anything, because knowing
676
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.680
that's the direction, that'll change the direction or where your
677
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.000
life went, you know, because toward the very end, toward
678
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:29.079
the very end, I be the case. You know, I
679
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.279
just didn't know any better because in the grips of
680
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.240
alcoholism and drug addiction, all I wanted to do is
681
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.200
take whatever it's easiest and get out, not realizing I
682
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.799
should have just fought.
683
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:43.519
It's no place for anybody to be.
684
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:49.559
It's really not for those who actually, you know, commit.
685
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:55.599
Horrible crimes against humanity, that's the place for them.
686
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.920
But for those who are make humanly mistakes, you know
687
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.880
what I mean. There's some that make choices, and there's
688
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.039
some that that humanly make mistakes, right.
689
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:07.160
Stuff.
690
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.239
Yeah, unbelievable, you know, especially the so called drug war
691
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:18.800
that was that was supposedly implemented by the government because
692
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:19.800
it was more.
693
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:26.960
Drug addicts that were getting arrested in these big present
694
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.880
sentences than drug dealers.
695
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.480
I mean, and you know, there were several times where
696
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.079
all I was caught with paraphernalia uh huh and was
697
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.800
charged with possession of the drug, where I would, you know,
698
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.039
get in front of the judge and say, your honor,
699
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.719
this is both this is nonsense.
700
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:45.280
This is nonsense.
701
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:48.320
I was never in possession of I was in possession
702
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.440
of the tools in order.
703
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.360
To use right very fernalia, right, you know what I mean.
704
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.400
And so they like you up for crystal meth, but
705
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.440
they'll sell you the oil burner.
706
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.639
So you know, I didn't got caught with pipes and
707
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:02.559
all types of stuff.
708
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:08.920
And now mind you, they would test, they would test it, and.
709
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.000
Of course it would come back positive for the use
710
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.480
of not realizing.
711
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:13.480
At some point I said that.
712
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.000
Enough was enough and I started fighting for myself and
713
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.199
that's how I beat you know, one of the last.
714
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.079
Cases we started to study up like hold on, well, no, I.
715
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.840
Started to have enough because I started realizing that, you know,
716
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:27.719
the same cops were picking me up for the same
717
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.079
ship and charging me with the same shit. I was
718
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:35.239
never in position of these drugs. I was in position
719
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.760
of the parapherneia in order to use it. And at
720
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.159
some point I kept getting in front of the same judge,
721
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.480
and the judge would say, hey, let me get it's
722
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.400
a pipe, right, I said, yep, because zero zero points
723
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.320
zero zero point zero point zero one, Grandma, cocaine is
724
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.960
nothing at all.
725
00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.960
It's nothing and so and and.
726
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.360
All of a sudden, the one time they picked me up,
727
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.000
I know, I ain't got no drugs or no pipe
728
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.079
on me. All of a sudden, I'm in possessing the
729
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:10.199
two grounds of cocaine.
730
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:16.599
Hm. Mind you, I didn't have nothing on me pretty much.
731
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.119
Wow was that NYPD?
732
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:21.480
That was Seattle Peace? Oh?
733
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:26.320
Stop here, Because at the time I was still, you know,
734
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:30.199
not grounded. I was still homeless. I was still homeless
735
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.079
and my life direction was going nowhere. So at some
736
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:36.159
point I had enough.
737
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:38.280
I had enough.
738
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:40.960
Well, man, I'm thankful you reached that point, though, Yeah,
739
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.480
because some of us, man, you know, some of us kind.
740
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:44.920
Of just you know.
741
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.840
I'm with a program called the Beyond Project, and I've
742
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.760
always volunteered and given back to the community cause that's
743
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.880
a part of my recovery. Yeah, and we go into facilities.
744
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.000
Everybody knows I'm a barber by trade. I still got
745
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.280
my license and stuff. And with the Beyond project. I
746
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:02.320
go into facil of these and cut hair.
747
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:03.800
For the homeless, so the less fortunate.
748
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:09.760
Ye you know, my biggest project is really New Horizons
749
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.079
for homeless teens.
750
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.639
But originally it was me and be the barber.
751
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.800
Like we used to go down on Christmas and Thanksgiving
752
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.159
in this mobile barbershop and cut hair right and Pine
753
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:29.239
Square for the homeless on Christmas and Thanksgiving the mobile barber.
754
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.400
I didn't know you was a barber. Yeah, oter you
755
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:32.880
know what I'm saying from.
756
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.519
Holland about that, man, You know what I mean, straight up, man,
757
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:38.599
that's that's what's uping.
758
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:40.599
So, I mean, you know, but but you farted and
759
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:41.679
you ended up beating it.
760
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.239
Yeah, yeah, I ended up beating it.
761
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.320
How did that make you feel?
762
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.039
I know, you had to feel like you know, Rocky
763
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:48.559
at the top of the Stairs or something.
764
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:49.559
You know what I mean. It made me feel like
765
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.920
I needed to do something different.
766
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.719
You felt that it was for change.
767
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.760
It was trying to do something different. It was time
768
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.519
to do something different. You started to act live up
769
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:01.280
to your potential.
770
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:06.920
Well, I was still on DOC from some of the
771
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:13.599
other stuff. They still released me. They released me, but
772
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.679
they had to do it was a dooc hold. So
773
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.480
even though I was in court, they was taking us
774
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.440
back out to Monroe Camp and I ran into one
775
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:22.239
of the big.
776
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.119
Dope boys in Chinatown and it was the one.
777
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:31.760
Time he finally got caught on a DC violation after
778
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.039
three years his first one.
779
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.440
He was only going to do like fourteen days. But
780
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:36.239
he had nothing.
781
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:41.280
He was Vietnamese, have black has, Vietnamese, the Gi babies
782
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:47.760
and Black Long and he was like, fuck New York though,
783
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.719
you know, I come up in here and I don't
784
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.920
have nothing, And now everybody want to act funny, and
785
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.159
I'm like, nah, because my books were good, had I.
786
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:58.840
Had pretty got little money.
787
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.719
Oh, I sent them a pillowcase or two of you know, noodles, rice.
788
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:05.360
And stuff like that.
789
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.840
So he put it out there that when I get out,
790
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.360
to find him.
791
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:10.480
And so.
792
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.280
I got out because we all know the dates when
793
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.000
we're getting out, and everybody and their mama was trying
794
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.719
to get a reward from bringing me along.
795
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:29.400
I ended up in China Town's jungle for almost three days.
796
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:34.159
The jungle was that here, yeah, here, China Town in
797
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.719
the jungle when it wasn't all about just it being
798
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.960
a homeless enclosure, and they were actually cooking kilos and
799
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.599
cocaine up in that bitch. And he put me in
800
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.760
a tent and told me I wanted for nothing because
801
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:50.159
I took care of him, and because that the Vietnamese
802
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.599
that he run with felt more privied.
803
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.360
They thought that they had something coming only because.
804
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.000
And so at one point, man I got up out
805
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.719
of there, and I'm like, yo, I can't do this.
806
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.519
So I walked out and the main entrance was right
807
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:12.800
there on Dearborn, and I looked over at Goodwill. I
808
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.960
looked over at the old Goodwill Learning center where the
809
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.760
number forty two bus used to stop at.
810
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:20.159
I looked at Goodwill.
811
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.760
I looked to the right and on Rainier and Deerborn,
812
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.199
the number forty two bus was making the left turn.
813
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.519
I ran across the street and jumped off the bus.
814
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.719
And I never looked back. Wow, I never looked back.
815
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.239
And so since you've been out of jail, you know
816
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.599
what I mean. Would have been some notable accomplishments, you know.
817
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:47.840
What I mean, from the jungle to a shelter, From
818
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.800
the shelter to becoming a part of Seattle Housing and
819
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:55.760
Resourced efforts. I became their outreach coordinator. I worked with
820
00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.880
them oversaw the same shelters that I was a resident.
821
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.559
I was a resident, sat down with the city council
822
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.079
for budgeting and stuff like that, as far as you
823
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.480
know what programs deserve the funding and stuff like that.
824
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.480
Volunteered and signed up and originally volunteered through Compass Alliance.
825
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.639
On Third in Virginia, they used to have a drop
826
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.280
in center, a homeless drop in center and resource center.
827
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.480
So even though I went in and used the resources,
828
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.679
I went in in a different capacity because I learned
829
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.519
a long time ago doing the same shit over and
830
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:39.400
over again expecting different results. So if you approach things differently,
831
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.360
people will see you taking yourself seriously. So I went
832
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.079
signed up as a volunteer also, and so was going
833
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:53.079
in twice a week for two hours a day cutting
834
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.320
hair while still homeless.
835
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:56.840
I was still in the shelters.
836
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.639
So you had the barber license before you even went
837
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.000
to I didn't have my license.
838
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:02.880
I had to skill.
839
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.639
I had a license before, but what they do is
840
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.639
they when you go from state to state, it varies,
841
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:11.599
so I came with it. I hadn't expired license, so
842
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:14.559
they told me I had to take fifteen hundred in order.
843
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:15.280
To get my license.
844
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:20.599
I had to take a fifteen hundred hour course, right course,
845
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.679
you know, to brush up with my skills and then take.
846
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:23.159
The state test.
847
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:31.159
And the staff members of the third Avenue Family Center
848
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.599
linked me to the people across the street with the
849
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:39.679
YWCA and and sponsored me and they paid for me
850
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.400
to go take the course and.
851
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.639
My license test. No, because they saw me taking my
852
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.079
life seriously. They super want to help people.
853
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.159
That's helping themselves. Man just like that, man just like that.
854
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.800
And so that was the process.
855
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.800
Once I started taking myself seriously, people saw that I
856
00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:58.480
was sincere.
857
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.400
It wasn't a hustle just like this hip hop, like
858
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:03.599
this music. I'm sincere about it.
859
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.920
So people saw that I was sincere about the direction
860
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.760
change in my life. And so I take two steps.
861
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.440
They took a step with me. I took three steps.
862
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.840
They took a step with me. They put you know,
863
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.000
I mean, positions to better myself.
864
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.320
But it was it was ultimately up to me, exactly,
865
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.119
and all I did was to follow through exactly exactly.
866
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.440
You know, I've seen people uh get on gr and
867
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:34.559
and never look back, you know what I mean.
868
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.320
And that's all they needed was that little leg up
869
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.880
and they followed through on the end.
870
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:41.280
And then you know that's why.
871
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.199
You know, at the end of the day, you know,
872
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.119
we all got to be accountable for ourselves.
873
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.199
We all got our own lives to live.
874
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:47.440
One.
875
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.000
You could either be a part of the solution or
876
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:52.440
you're the fucking problem.
877
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.559
Right, I mean, it's just you gotta be the solution
878
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:55.719
or you are the problem.
879
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.440
You know what I mean. It's just that simple.
880
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:57.679
Man.
881
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.840
Look man, look you I can't see you turning this down. Well,
882
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.000
I'm not to ask for a freestyle from you. Man,
883
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:06.280
you know what I'm saying. They say we got that
884
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:07.920
on the show, you know what I mean, because I mean.
885
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:08.519
You really got it.
886
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:12.159
Come on, man, come on, man, just give me like
887
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.119
you know, eight bars eight bars 's up?
888
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:23.440
Man ship or just give me something.
889
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:30.400
No no, no, no, no nah ah. Chinatown's greatest mystery
890
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.760
is back in the spot. Used to do a lot
891
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.840
of dirt in this park, on this block. People used
892
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.440
to say, ready Ron, oh please, used to run with
893
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.280
the Koreans, Chinese and Vietnamese, Sick with the gift, tight
894
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.079
with the vocals from New York to Seattle. Now I'm
895
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.920
in with the locals. Ready Ron from the impossibles. I'm
896
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:50.360
sick with the gift, but when it comes to my money,
897
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:51.480
I don't want to hear ship.
898
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.960
Let's go ready, ron Bats, you know what I'm saying.
899
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.920
That's what I'm saying. Bro, Hey man, it's been great.
900
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.119
Have you on the Wilson Block? I mean, actually, hold on.
901
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:02.639
I do want to ask you one more question, man,
902
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:04.000
just you know, on a community level.
903
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:04.679
You know what I'm saying.
904
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.519
You've been around four minute and I like to think
905
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.840
that you got, you know, a fair idea of what
906
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.599
stupidity is and what's you know, ethical right, and so
907
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.280
you know, from in your own words, what would you
908
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.239
say are some solutions that we can focus on as
909
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.639
a community to kind of you know, bridge some of
910
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.760
the some of the injustices going on.
911
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:28.719
I think the first thing you need to do is
912
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.880
educate yourself and take a look at what the big
913
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.199
picture is. You have people of color that are complaining
914
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.800
about the music scene here and how it's unfair, and
915
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.800
I agree with you one hundred percent, but you have
916
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.519
to take a look at the big picture. The city
917
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:49.599
of Seattle is only seven percent black, and you might
918
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:53.960
be one hundred percent right, but they will find millions
919
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.599
of ways to try to prove you not being right,
920
00:45:56.719 --> 00:46:00.320
even if it's fabricated. You know, the odds or already
921
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:07.800
quadriply stacked against you. And the biggest thing you can do,
922
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:11.719
and the most important thing that you can do, is
923
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.679
remove the horse blinders.
924
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.719
And take a look at the big picture, because once
925
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.679
you see that and you see how the.
926
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.719
Pieces are being moved on the chessboard, then you'll understand
927
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.880
what's really going on around you. You can't go in
928
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:31.159
with expectations not knowing. You have to know these things.
929
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.840
This is why it's very important. This is why it's
930
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.159
very very very very very important to understand all of
931
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.599
this information. It's very important. You need to know this.
932
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:48.400
And that's whether it be educationally, the music community based,
933
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.239
you know, you have to understand what's going on around
934
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:57.559
you because the system is already set up indirectly for failure,
935
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.599
for failure. Look at the fight that Nikida's putting out there.
936
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.719
They come up with three hundred million dollars for a
937
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:10.559
youth jail, three hundred million for three hundred million to
938
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:13.920
build the youth jail, but they pulled the funding from
939
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:18.079
all of these educational programs and apprenticeship program.
940
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.400
That's really what happened.
941
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.920
T me a one hundred million to build a youth jail.
942
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:34.239
Why are teachers fighting to get paid? Correctly, those are
943
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.639
the real all stars. I take nothing away from the
944
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:41.280
athletes or the people that are in the entertainment business,
945
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:41.800
but the.
946
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.800
True superstars are the teachers who are teaching our children.
947
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.119
So if you take that from them, right, you take
948
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.079
that choice from them, you take all of these educational
949
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:57.719
programs away from them. Then with the music you're spoon
950
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.239
feeding our children poison.
951
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:04.320
Exactly, you're suniti poison, whether it be through music and
952
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.199
through entertainment. Because like I said in the beginning of
953
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.519
the interview, they are teaching our kids of color, and
954
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:16.079
especially our girls. It's already bad enough that we can
955
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.920
be our own worst enemy, you know, as far as
956
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.320
black on black crime, because instead of us working together,
957
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.760
we're too busy trying to outdo each other instead of
958
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.960
grow together. But it's teaching our children, our female children
959
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:33.440
of color, that this is what you have to do
960
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:38.559
to be accepted, which is wrong, which is wrong. And
961
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:42.519
that's what the big picture is, is paying attention, educating
962
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:47.000
yourself and knowing and knowing you know and there's some
963
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.079
names that I may not have mentioned, whether it be
964
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.239
Mom and Nikki or well be Free or the Youth
965
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:54.800
Speech go ahead, and you know what I'm saying, The
966
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.400
Youth Speaks program, Creative Justice, and these are all programs
967
00:48:58.760 --> 00:48:59.480
that are.
968
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:08.280
Alternatives, and these are programs in our community. You know,
969
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:11.039
I think that.
970
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:16.039
We're at a pivotal point right now where it's not
971
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.360
even about us, it's.
972
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:21.719
About what's the next step for our children, right you.
973
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.159
Know, because like I said, the black community here is
974
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.239
only seven percent. So unless you work as a unit
975
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:35.199
and stop complaining and put action into doing something different,
976
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.039
then nothing's going to change.
977
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:39.920
You know.
978
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.880
All the protesting in the world, all the marching in
979
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.840
the world gets attention, but at the end of the day,
980
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:47.079
what we need is change.
981
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.000
We need change. We need to take responsibility and accountability.
982
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.840
That's why when I'm with the youngsters, I politic with
983
00:49:54.960 --> 00:50:01.519
them because what's missing is the the community based the
984
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:06.079
community based educational system where we learned from people in
985
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:10.480
our community, where you knew the OG had something knowledgeable
986
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:16.519
to say, and he passed down knowledge and game. And
987
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:20.760
that's that's really crazy because I'm so thankful that I
988
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.440
was lucky enough for the Muslim community back in Brooklyn
989
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.679
to teach real history.
990
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.719
Because even in these history books, they will not tell
991
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:38.199
you that most of the largest precentities, inventions, ideas that
992
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.760
were created were created and stolen from people of color,
993
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:43.920
you know what I mean?
994
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.440
And so the best thing you can do is really
995
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:50.320
educating as far as this music, man, listen, don't let
996
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.920
nobody tell you what you have to offer isn't good enough,
997
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.000
because all of us are part of the wheel that
998
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:01.920
continuously keeps this wheel moving. We all have a role,
999
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.239
we all have a part. That's why I said I'm
1000
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.840
not the best at anything. I'm one of the lucky.
1001
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:08.280
I'm mad at anyone for.
1002
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:11.519
Doing with no, no, no, but I'm not the best
1003
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:15.519
at anything. I am the I am lucky to be
1004
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:20.159
a part and I'm thankful that I'm a part of this,
1005
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.519
do you know what I mean? And that what I
1006
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:28.000
have to contribute was something that was felt by the
1007
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:29.960
local hip hop community was.
1008
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.920
A necessity to have or to be a part of.
1009
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:34.280
And that's more so than anything, because you got a
1010
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.920
lot of talented people out here, man. You got a
1011
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.239
lot of talented people out there, man, you know, a
1012
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.360
lot of really really good beat makers and producers, a
1013
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.719
lot of good male and female artists of all colors,
1014
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:48.039
of all color.
1015
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:48.800
You know.
1016
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.079
Well, you know, man, look, you know I'm not an
1017
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.000
original Seattle like. You know what I'm saying, and even
1018
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.639
Seattle likes know that, so you know, but you know,
1019
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.840
just from my point of view, man like Seattle is.
1020
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.239
You know, I'm glad you in Seattle, you know what
1021
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:02.760
I mean, and you know.
1022
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.360
Lucky to have come across some of the most talented
1023
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:13.239
artists and have had worked with some of the most talented,
1024
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.280
underrated artists in this city. But that's a part of
1025
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.679
that seven percent only being black, because they are not
1026
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:26.599
gonna get They just do their attention that they deserved.
1027
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:32.119
I had a talk with somebody that talked about you know, Ben,
1028
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.159
that talked about Maclamore, and I said, I got nothing
1029
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.719
bad to say about him. Well, I know you have
1030
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.159
an opinion, I said, of course I have an opinion,
1031
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.239
but it really it's not going to make a difference
1032
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:47.280
because when that moment was there, it was lost because
1033
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.440
when the whole world was looking at him and what
1034
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:53.239
was going on in Seattle, he had the opportunity, he
1035
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.400
had the opportunity to open the doors for the rest
1036
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.559
of the world to see how much talent.
1037
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:00.000
Is really he is.
1038
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:01.920
I mean, that's what brought me here.
1039
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:06.519
And so they said, well, if that's the way you feel,
1040
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.960
I said, well, that's the difference between what Eminem did
1041
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.559
and what he did. Eminem put after a Slim Shady album,
1042
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.320
and then after the Slim Shady album, the next album
1043
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.400
was D twelve. He made it very clear off the muscle.
1044
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:24.840
Regardless of what they did with their career. Still, if
1045
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:28.920
it wasn't for them, I would have never gotten the
1046
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.960
shine that I got. So this is how I pay
1047
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:36.039
them back by shedding the light, shedding light on these guys.
1048
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:37.639
He did give it to him, and he gave it
1049
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:41.360
to him regardless of what direction their career went. That's
1050
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:43.760
that's on them. I still I have been bad to
1051
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.960
say about him. They put out some great music, but
1052
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:51.239
that was the opportunity that ben or maclamore that he
1053
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.039
had and it didn't happen. So this is why I
1054
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.719
don't get any co I don't get in these conversations.
1055
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.199
I don't getting these conversations. I mean because a lot
1056
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.880
of people. I mean, the first thing I could say,
1057
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:09.480
as well, you know, I'm not gonna say who did
1058
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.679
he put on? Who did he expose? And I don't
1059
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.840
mean during tours, I mean when the whole world was
1060
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.599
looking at him. He had the opportunity to have features
1061
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.000
or to introduce and to do this and it never happened,
1062
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:27.039
especially where now it's a digital world and a visual world,
1063
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.639
because we all know music videos changed the course, change
1064
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:35.760
the course of a project of a song, and so
1065
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:41.679
you had the opportunity to verbally and physically expose all
1066
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:42.760
that talent.
1067
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.039
I will say the town he mentioned, he mentioned some
1068
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:49.400
names that that brought me up here wondering, like I mean, listen,
1069
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.559
it left me with the impression that Seattle got some
1070
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:52.519
local legends.
1071
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.920
Okay, Okay, I don't give a fuck what you say.
1072
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.559
What you do says everything. What you say is definitely
1073
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.360
believe what they do and take a look at what really.
1074
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.880
Didn't happen, like like any of the shows. Then I
1075
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.280
see them at Washington Hall at least once. Yet I've
1076
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:10.880
seen them there.
1077
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.920
I've seen them recently, not recently, but but listen to
1078
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:15.199
me very carefully.
1079
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.440
Anytime that I've done shout out.
1080
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.559
To my girl Caprice, who originally started the first Ready
1081
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:22.519
rom Beats Takeover.
1082
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:27.159
It was you know, really a birthday thing that she did.
1083
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:33.320
But whenever something happens, I always make sure that I'm
1084
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:38.280
very unselfish and that I pull artists from different circles
1085
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.800
so that we all share a moment, because what you
1086
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:47.920
do matters the most. It can't be one sound all night.
1087
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:56.599
I don't care if you're emo, thug, happy, rapper, pop,
1088
00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:58.639
it's whatever, it's whatever works.
1089
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.199
Conscious you have to you have to be in a
1090
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.000
be able to.
1091
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:07.719
Be unselfish and and and remember that they all deserve
1092
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:09.880
the same attention.
1093
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:11.239
Right right.
1094
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:12.960
And you know that's why for my platform and do
1095
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.119
I'm just people be like, yeah, it's a hip hop magnet,
1096
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.559
it's not a hip hop magazine. I interview, I did
1097
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.079
the interview with the people with the bagpipe.
1098
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.920
Right right, right, right right right. I did the flu horn.
1099
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:25.639
Billy Coach at the and you know, and I just
1100
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.639
I just mix it up, you know, add that diversity,
1101
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:28.719
you know, you know, I try.
1102
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:30.920
To make it my business. Except for the last one.
1103
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:35.760
It was to the last one. It was to to
1104
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:40.039
shed light on the five main artists that I'm specifically
1105
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:42.320
working with right now. That was the last one, but
1106
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:47.639
even shout out to Julie Julie C. I did folk life,
1107
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:49.440
and the first thing I did.
1108
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:50.719
Was I reached out.
1109
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:56.639
I reached out and it was all different. You know,
1110
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:59.000
I pulled it. You know, I asked for help from
1111
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:03.920
r LS. You know, I asked from help from members
1112
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.599
of Black Magic Noise, you know, because our Less is
1113
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:11.519
a talented MC, but he's also a great singer. And
1114
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.440
it's almost as if it's an R and BISH folk
1115
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:18.360
type sound that's kind of bananas, you know what I'm saying.
1116
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:19.639
I pulled in wish Baby.
1117
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:21.880
I mean, let's even talk about the one I did
1118
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:24.840
for my birthday, the big one where I.
1119
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:26.760
Rainer.
1120
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.760
Avenue Radio was there. It was a big thing, man,
1121
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:34.239
and it sold out and I didn't even charge as
1122
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.599
much as I should have, only charged five dollars and
1123
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.719
donated what was left after paying the venue to Nikita's
1124
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:43.440
Creative Justice program.
1125
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:43.840
Nice.
1126
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.800
But there were different circles in different styles and different sounds,
1127
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.719
That's what I'm saying. And it was that moment that
1128
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:56.559
everybody shared. Everybody was doing a different style of hip hop,
1129
00:57:56.920 --> 00:58:02.280
but everybody enjoyed each other, enjoyed each other's Everybody that's right.
1130
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.199
The crowd didn't act funny towards Nobody's performance.
1131
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.679
And see that that's exactly what I came up. You're
1132
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:11.079
looking for, That's exactly what I thought.
1133
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:14.320
It was like, this is why, you know, shout out
1134
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:20.360
to Mojoe Barnes and shout out to my girl. Finally,
1135
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:26.000
finally I took that that big step and said, I'm
1136
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:31.440
gonna go all in with whoever rides with me, and
1137
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.119
we created Takeover Music Collective.
1138
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:39.559
I have my own company. Now. It's not much. It's
1139
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:39.960
not much.
1140
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:44.880
I'm not blowing smoke up nobody's ass giving you this
1141
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.440
long b rated bad guy movie monologue how I'm gonna
1142
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:52.159
take over the industry. No, I'm just gonna contribute more
1143
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.840
to the machine that keeps it moving, you know what
1144
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:55.199
I mean?
1145
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:56.360
And I really mean.
1146
00:58:56.199 --> 00:59:00.199
That because I chose takeover because now everything and that I.
1147
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:06.280
Oh, it's already rod takeover. It's already it's takeover. Fuck it. Yeah,
1148
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:07.599
I know. If we'll go with that.
1149
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.320
And instead of seeing music company or entertainment company, that's
1150
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:12.159
a music collective.
1151
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:16.559
M So we're gonna we gonna see a debut album finally,
1152
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.599
or a solo album.
1153
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:22.679
Come on, us.
1154
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:27.119
Here's the deal man, that's the unselfish thing I had.
1155
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:27.800
I had my.
1156
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:35.360
Moment, and and if I feature on somebody's track, that's fine.
1157
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:37.480
I'm really not interested, honestly.
1158
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.079
And a solo album, I'm not even though what it
1159
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:41.639
might do for the next.
1160
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:43.079
I'm really not interested.
1161
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:48.679
I'm more concerned about being the bigger picture, the bigger picture.
1162
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.639
If I get shine on one of the verses I dropped,
1163
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.960
that's beautiful, that's fine.
1164
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:55.679
I don't want to be upfront like that.
1165
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:58.760
Once in a while, it's nice to get out there,
1166
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.599
you know what I mean, and showed them that the Boogeyman.
1167
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:06.280
Still exists, right, But that's not what it's about for me.
1168
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.719
It's about being a team player, and a lot of
1169
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:14.320
people nowadays can't do that now. If the opportunity arises,
1170
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:21.400
if something miraculously happens and a door opens up for
1171
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.599
who I'm working with, that means the door opens up for.
1172
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:26.480
Everybody who I'm working with.
1173
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:30.840
And that was always the way it worked. It was
1174
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.079
always we, not me, and so in order to be
1175
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.719
a team player, you have to wait your time. It's
1176
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.880
no big deal to me because I had my moment
1177
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.280
and I'm very thankful for that. I'm just thankful but
1178
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.840
still being an essential part that keeps it moving.
1179
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:49.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, see, you know it's that gratitude.
1180
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:51.599
See that gratitude is really what you.
1181
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.119
Know, what I can pull for, we can all pull from.
1182
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:56.119
You know what I'm saying, keeping a thankful adage.
1183
01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:58.480
You know, I know that if my teammate wins, we
1184
01:00:58.599 --> 01:00:59.039
all win.
1185
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.280
Right, you want the two points, you want the assist, right,
1186
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.400
we all win, we all win.
1187
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.159
If I can't make the shot, I'm gonna pass the ball,
1188
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.039
especially if he's got the shot, because in the end,
1189
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:15.079
we all walk away with championship rings.
1190
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:18.400
We walk away champions. And see, this is what ends
1191
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:20.519
up happening and.
1192
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:23.360
Becomes a problem because it becomes such a selfish date
1193
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:29.719
And this is you know, this is what made things happen.
1194
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.360
Look at look at the WO Manual. Look at how
1195
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:34.239
no limit did it.
1196
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.599
Look at how even as far back as the Juice
1197
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:41.000
Crew All Stars or anybody that was a part of
1198
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:48.280
a small organization, when you won, everybody won, everybody want right,
1199
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:52.159
And that was you know, I mean that was it
1200
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.920
was cool because you didn't you just didn't create that,
1201
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.239
you created a small movement just like what's happening with
1202
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.159
Black Umbrella. That's a movement, and so it doesn't merely
1203
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:09.639
focuses focus on raz. It focuses on fatal and whoever,
1204
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.679
you know what I mean. And seeing that's the whole idea,
1205
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:18.679
because if something happens, let's just say, God blesses Gad
1206
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:23.039
with a number one hit, right, and she has the opportunity.
1207
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:28.840
The team's coming, right, let's just see them. Let's just
1208
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.639
say I'll use Jamel Moxie. Okay, one of the cats
1209
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:37.800
I produced his problem to the project Groove Elements. Let's
1210
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:39.760
just say, because he's more of an R and bish
1211
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.400
kind of guy, but he's got it but his but
1212
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.719
his bars are impeccable and he sings his ass off.
1213
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:48.679
So let's just say it hits.
1214
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:58.000
What happens next collection, the whole collective, the whole collective.
1215
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.519
So when they want to show, they get.
1216
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:06.239
A full we have our own opening acts.
1217
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.119
Oh wow, full roster off time.
1218
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:09.800
We have our own opening acts.
1219
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:13.119
So you produce R and B as well.
1220
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:14.239
A little bit.
1221
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:16.800
Okay, that's heavy, that's that's a.
1222
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.239
Little bit, A little bit, just a little bit I did.
1223
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.800
I did a couple of tracks for Fallon Sierra and
1224
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.320
Mama Nicky and fallen with with one of them that
1225
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:33.679
she called us Charlotte Webb, and it told her prior
1226
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:38.119
project Mama Nicky she sings and does hip hop two
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but she's a prolific poet.
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She did We All Rising Up.
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And that's my brother there, Jamelle Moxy. If I played
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something after this interview, I'm gonna play something and then
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you'll and then you'll understand that. I was like, regardless
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of what uh direction they've gone at that moment, I
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was the perfect fit for that moment.
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I was the perfect producer for that moment. Yeah, for
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that project.
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So yeah, yeah, man.
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So look, man, we could we really could talk all day. Man, bro,
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I'm very much you know what I mean, That's what
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I'm saying.
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I said, it's gonna be an hour. He was like, look,
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I gonna keep you short.
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But I'm gonna answer your questions honestly. Yes, he got
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one question. Okay.
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So we talked about you, you know, having your little
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pitfalls and you know, incarceration, drugs and stuff like that.
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I just wanted to ask, how is the day in
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the life of you know what I'm saying, ready, Ron,
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today is what does the schedule look like today?
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For you? Of my alcohol, my alcoholism and my drug
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addiction was the mood of mine hitoring chemical. The other
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ninety nine was the behavior. I stopped drinking and getting high.
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I had to learn to live completely all over again.
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So I took different steps, even though my recovery was
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done behind enemy lines, because even leaving the shelter, I
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was running into some of the same people you.
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Know that I was getting high with. But my focus
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was clear.
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I had had enough. I'd had enough. There's always a
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bigger picture with me. It's always unselfish, and every day
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I'm thinking about how we can win. This isn't just
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about me. This isn't just about me. It's how we
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can win and what more can I do in the
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community to be a part of the solution. Whether it
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be volunteering at the food bank, whether it be volunteering
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with the Beyond Project, whether it's helping my friend Marvin Futrelle,
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who is one of the driving forces behind the tiny
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houses that are being built, or helping Nikita with her class,
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or that's what it's about.
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For me.
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It's about the big picture because I know at some
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point the baton has to be passed.
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I am not a child.
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I'm a grown ass man and it's my responsibility to
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pass information onto the youth. And that's what it's about
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for me. Whether it be through music, you know, whether
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it be community based, I'm always trying to you know
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what I mean. I mean, even shout out daniel Danielle
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Griffin and Percy, you know, because they work with the organics.
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They're up at Cafe Red every Monday putting organic food
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baskets together to feed the homeless, you know, or people
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who are going through a rough time during you know,
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the the pandemic right right.
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So you're giving back to the community one.
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Hundred percent because there was a few people in the
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community that when I started taking these steps to better myself, they.
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Rode with me, right, they rode with me. So it's
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only fair.
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This is why even in the program, the self help.
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Group, I have two sponsores that I sponsor, you know
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what I mean, Because what works for one individual won't
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work for the next.
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So you know, I kind of see it as paying
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it forward, you know what I mean.
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That's called paying it forward.
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One.
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When you pay it forward, then it actually moves the machine,
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actually moved one hundred percent instead of just oh yeah,
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oh you let me give it back.
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Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like, you know,
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you have the attitude of paying it forward. So you know,
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a friend once told me, like, oh look, he's a
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free slave because I would do anything that he needed
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me to do because it was about what we.
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Were trying to accomplish in that moment.
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You know what I mean. Let me give you.
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Let me give you a perfect example of being a
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part of the solution. My wife's a nurse during the pandemic.
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She has been putting ridiculous and retarded hours when people
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were backing down and bowing out. There's a photographer and
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a videographer named Rachel. She caused herself a little poma.
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She's kind of in bad health. She has lupus and
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a few other physical issues that are going on, but
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her attentions to sincere They found a mask that they
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removed in an abdomen area, and after releasing her, there
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was an open wound that had to be constantly taken
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care of, and where she went for them to do
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the wound care did a shit job.
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She had no idea she was being kidnapped. I told
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her to come out the house.
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She drove all away from Pee Waller and I said,
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make sure you bring your youngest daughter with her. She
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stayed with us for five days. My wife was going
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in working ten and twelve hour days and still coming home.
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She was being kidnapped. We kidnapped her. We kidnapped her,
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not literally right, but we're gonna come. But she stayed
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with us for five days.
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My wife did all the wound care because it had
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to be changed twice a day.
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Let's say she.
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Knew, y'll know, we're you're gonna get the care here.
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And that's how I lived my life on a daily basis.
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And it doesn't necessarily mean like there's a lot of guys.
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There's a lot of guys right that because thanks thank you,
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Jay Battle.
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Shout out Jay Battle and DJ Neebor for sharpening my
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engineering skills. Shout out Mark Hoy h Mark Hoy music sharpening.
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You know what I'm saying, my engineering skills. And so
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there are times where people are in a financial situation
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and they need help and they'll say, listen, I need
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to record this. I'm in a bad position right now.
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My last words is okay, how long?
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Well?
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What do you mean, how long is it take gonna
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take for you to get here? Another really talented female artist,
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Keisha Beard, she put a post out.
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She put a post out.
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I think it was last year or a year before
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that that she had the opportunity to do a video
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with somebody, but she was in a financial situation and.
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Couldn't couldn't pay for studio time.
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And that's what I see you when you get here.
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We recorded it wasn't even my beat. We recorded it,
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I mixed it, I mastered it.
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She did the video and just recently, not too long ago,
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she did a post saying, this is how community works together,
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this is what happened, this is what happened.
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Needed a place. Ronald Wilson didn't hesitate to tell me
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to come. He recorded me. We got the video done.
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Blah blah blah. See sometimes you just see sometimes you
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just gotta do the right thing.
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You gotta do the right thing because it's the right
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thing to do because of what the big picture is.
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Now that's a big picture.
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That's being a solution when it because right now, if
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I'm in a bad situation, I know who I can
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call for help.
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And it doesn't necessarily mean financial help. And even if it's.
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A position a situation like this, I'm I'm a real
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I'm a real motherfucker.
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Man.
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If I'm behind in something to need help, I'll reach
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out and say, listen, this is what's up. I'm in
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a bying blah blah blah. Wellha much do you need
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I don't need shit. I'm gonna give you the account
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number for whether it be the lights, the gas and this,
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and that's what I need taking.
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Care of.
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In my phone. Will let me because that's being sentincend
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right exactly.
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Integrity, integrity man, mmhm yeah, Man, we're gonna go ahead
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and wrap it up, ready, ron beasts.
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Man, it's been great.
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01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:14.920
Appreciate you guys taking the time out there. I do
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have something to say, though. Don't let anybody tell you
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out there that what you have isn't good enough or
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it's not something that contributes to this music genre.
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Right, yeah, period, no doubt.
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Also, don't let because the odds against you let you.
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Don't don't believe that you're not capable of maneuvering through
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a city of snakes.
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You've got mail, period, because there are a lot of
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them out here, and there are a lot of them
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and they really mean you no good.
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Just just keep your integrity in place, work real hard,
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and don't focus on just being.
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A local hero.
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Open your mind up because now this is the top
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music genre in the world.
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So what you need to start.
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Doing is reaching out and exploring this genre in other
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countries so that you see the impact and how well
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received what you have to offer can be.
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Word He'll talk it, you'll.
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Talk rady Ron.
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That's what it is.
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Man.
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I don't thank y'all for coming through or thank you
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for coming through. Oh yeah, and you know what I mean.
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We'll have you back on you know what I'm saying
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in a minute. But uh, it's will some Block one
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hundred radio. I'm your host, mister Wilson, and until next time,
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we are