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Welcome to another episode of the Vast Lives Podcast.
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In this episode, I'm on a quiet football pitch in Chiba, Japan.
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I'm with photographer Ryo Shimizu, who's fresh off an 8am flight from Bangkok.
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Ryo's been shooting since elementary school.
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No formal training, just instinct.
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He's since done editorial work for Marie Claire and built a name for portraiture that favors the unscripted moment over the styled one.
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We talk about wandering unfamiliar streets chasing forgotten histories, the documentary he made following his girlfriend's world title surf campaign, and what it's like shooting what's happening just outside the frame.
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Then Ryo turns the question back on me, the host, and things get a little real.
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So let's dive right in to this next episode of the Vast Lives Podcast.
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Kunichiwa.
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It's a beautiful day in Chiva.
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We're um reclining on a what looks like a hockey or a Father Side football court.
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Uh you've just flown in from Bangkok this morning.
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This morning.
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8 a.m.
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8 a.m.
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flight in from Bangkok.
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Thank you very much for welcoming to your hometown where you live.
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I'm not sure if it's your hometown where you grew up, but thank you very much for welcoming.
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And thoroughly look forward to having a discussion with you this morning.
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Oh, you comfortable?
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Yeah, comfortable.
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Good.
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You like football?
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You like football?
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Just met at the coffee shop.
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It's your friend's coffee shop.
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Really lovely coffee shop, by the way.
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If I were to meet you in a coffee shop and someone introduced you to me, Rio, uh, how would you describe yourself?
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Your love for photography, did that kind of start a long time ago?
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Did it develop like when you were much younger?
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Hi.
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And Mudomeka, the Yobari Kutomo, Ikai Kanika Arimastari.
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So did you grow up from this area uh as a young boy or are you from another prefecture?
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It to Maritano Takamatu Marite, Sokode Yo, men to some made shokuni te Sokara Mawano Shigoto no canke no think weano shigotonok thinking so could.
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So now to kiss you, shogakukonese madite, shogakurokunese karakono Tokyo kostik de to show ni te ich walking holiday to radioka atua So this me.
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Kai Chibani choinenka sund the mitari.
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Nebata Tokyo ni modo this I came a kekko Chiba main no Chibame chote in this day masekatsimasuko sewa Chiuya Hakauya Imoto Did to Maritachara one changer Ztoimas Imamoimas.
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Hm Kodomonokorukara Kenkin Zukataniskido Nakat Tomonachto bye bye Sinoat Sonani Samishi Tokawanak de Nakat Suriorimo Nankatarashi Toteno Sekatsinohoa Tanoshimilata Lituka Sono Tatoebashogaku Gonende Hikoshte Shovakuro Kinesiska inakata Ichineshka inakata Kono Nakademo Minani Chinese Garita shoot the URLanka Nandaruna Ma Ocho Naka Suguminanka one o Sushi needs moitakanji de Sekatsimasta.
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Temanaka Shovaku Kradanika Sashingata Nanka Fuzaki Sashingai Pat Nanka Sworewa Yonzusan in Atemoinato Stenayonakias Shimasne.
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You mentioned you grew up on an island, Shikoku.
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I dare say the community was very small and slightly more remote than the mainland.
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What was it like for you as a young man growing up on Shikoku?
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So Yotien no nsu somebody nakara.
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Nanka tambono torio ko toriga konaksi nankapanti bakatsung la kokatati no avoid.
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Nakinagara yotin karata you no to tatama unchiter avoidance.
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Sorry like you avoid him.
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Sorry, sorry avoiding anything.
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I'm but that's checked the kyograms on the community that's cheatomodakarima to this name.
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Those were your memories.
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Yeah, memories.
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Sorry like a manka.
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So you picked up a camera from a young age, you started your love for photography as a child, essentially.
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And immediately fell in love with taking photos.
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So let's flip the script.
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Let's talk about now, today.
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If you have a look at your Instagram account, you can get some sort of an idea and a feel for your style of photography.
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You mentioned that you've you've traveled quite extensively.
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Australia, Bali, where else?
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Uh Italia, Italy, that's correct.
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You've done work with Marie Claire and some editorial work.
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It appears that you enjoy portrait portraiture as well, photographing people.
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What is photography in terms of being the man behind the lens, right?
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Do you sort of get more inspiration and passion to keep doing what you're doing because you get to tell a story through the lens?
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What is it that keeps you passionate about like photography and also working with sort of quite a varied sort of subject base, you know?
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Yeah, but I'm not sure what I'm saying, but I'm not sure if you're singiski, tono, sashing wote nanka teba.
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Kirainashto, tokaga manankatanomare tote, sonostoga soreo, jibuno, in statokaprofirino, Ikon it's katekritari tokaste tari tokasete, buti.
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A kunako stillinda jibungatuka nakako Torikara kutimitati naka sonostoga.
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Sabini Nagara, Sonoston Huntonan Kashinka Torete, Sonosoka, Soriokonde Kritatoki, Chibang Resin, dezukitunan kasono, mina kindu cano, but Yrokonde couldnitosono tota taika orako moral moran diskediaparichi orisono.
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Yerokon de kutrizigata oritakte, theziketiri she could cara mutabon tuzkiti kudaroto musi so this me.
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Ma atu yapai chimaskino, zitotan diskido A saikin chotto nzemo, a kamera monanka chotto a kurachianka kikuji ni sashin tanon de kuri isttoa koreo tote husija nakilanka it'smono kanji nanka.
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Sizin nakanzitote you tokunkasimo nais to mokikoitokasin de mananka you donuna kanjino sashin nati tokimo ali masane.
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Uh-h.
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I suppose that's really cool when you get uh when you have clients that uh give you more creative freedom and more creative license to put your stamp on it by being open to suggestion about the environment, uh not as curated.
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We spoke about uh some photo shoots being, you know, highly curated, and there's like uh a list of do's and don'ts as to the look and feel.
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So it must be quite satisfying as a creative yourself to be able to, as you say, have a a big role in setting the scene and making the person feel comfortable.
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When it comes to you touched on you enjoy shoots where you almost feel a little bit out of your comfort zone, like it's not one that you would have thought you'd want to kind of pick or shoot.
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Do you find that more satisfying to like have that challenge in front of you of having to kind of work with whatever it is the client has given you, even though it might not be your first choice in terms of uh the shoot?
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Yeah, I think as we push forward into the world of AI, I think the more authentic and the more real uh we can be as creators, uh artists, photographers, uh, the more it's gonna resonate with with clients and with people who are looking for more of an authentic look and feel.
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So I think you're uh you're in a good position with your portfolio and and your style.
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And I'll speak about style because you seem like quite a stylish guy.
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You enjoy fashion.
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Tell me some of your passions outside of photography that you really enjoy.
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Yep, but tabigoskils, yeah?
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Tabiste janakute Sekai, son walking horde tokade no sundequino, taznete, sonotumodachino fudan se katsovo, ishoniko ikagitoka, n Sigoshte.
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My pash sontakin washin to cham this kido.
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Nandaruna.
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Sono Totino Soto, Shidiate, Shabete Mato Sano Dik Sono Basano Dekio Tato, Gohaya Sani Hattaru Sashimitori, Hanashio Stadium Kashila Koko Ananda Tandiska.
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Kono Totsu anandiko you na mainandeska tari so you nandarun.
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Sono dikio sakas tedukasunos goidaiskide.
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Mato Konomaya miasakin moitan diskido.
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It's moitiru, kohiyasan no maya, nankafutu fisen a dorote.
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Kono kohiya santi mkash nanda tandiska kita Sono ima minana kurima hashters and atarashi do nakte.
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Misenoya, huntom kashwa kido de kua main storito de sono main street andovakini atanoga, ima konokohi a sangatawasoka udoya santi hanashio kita.
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Theuku kuatimichio mirito, nanka senta raim toka, gadoka mala no kotinsio.
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Nakata so you hanash they so you hanashokita sritoko gugrimak de otochte.
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So karanka Mikasino studi to be juni gre my sacano botaritoka Sino dikitaritoka sino so mitarito ka maandaruna.
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Shumiwa Yron Nabasonite Ironashutoshaber coto this ne autua shumi sofinka ma Tabino Nakany Aruzimbu Nanda Tabi Tabis Tateva softoli pedi Tabini Tatosh tema.
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So one Totinos Tirats to Maz another communication to Tabino Skatatoshtewa Tita Ninanka internet to the Shirabisni de Sonobasoni Tesanos Totinos Tony on Natakoro Ki teko Tabiosirut So you know Sorigashimi Titashimi Midanamon this there When you look back at your older work when you were younger, what do you think has changed first?
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Your eye, your patience, or your relationship with your subject?
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Which of those three do you think has changed the most?
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Communication Sodiwaya party dunka Iro story there kai gai ni chilenka walking holiday to kaiwa kai tik the karama story the Europa story the Sonaniwa Saberina and story the don't don't don't tabish there communication to Ranaito Iktaito Colonimo I can I see Katoeba Itani Italiano Mirano no Cuco Kara Kiko Made Tote kaiwa Finlandon Kukko Kara Nihoni Modur Chikito Tote Sononakao Jilike Ironatomoda Garako Saigo Sai takingis of Kara Nihonika to Tabio studi the style to Kastete So what Iroon could stone the Tisgo seen at Sabika and animal Hajiman night, you know the Donko Jisingatikanka.
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Hananka so you know, Kika is dead and kawata Hanato.
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So no communication Darito demos to Shabete Nandalo.
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Matavan Kyomo, Hazimade that this kid of Tarito, I don't know.
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Kim Nanka bitini, Cho hasimed that tattoo can light in like Tarituka Xnemasne.
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Yeah, I noticed the first thing you said when you walked and I asked you about Bangkok was yes, very friendly people, smiley people.
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And so what your travels are exposing you to is other people's cultures, but their way of interacting.
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In Bangkok's case, or in Thailand's case, for me anyway, it's the the land of smiles, and everyone's so friendly and warm.
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And so the more we travel and the more we spend time with other people's cultures and understanding not only their food and their language, their fashion, we get to understand them more as people.
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But it also gives us a broader horizon and makes us way more tolerant of other people's cultures and more understanding than if we, you know, just stick in our own country.
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And, you know, you said they're so friendly, more so friendly than perhaps some of the local people.
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So it's an interesting, uh interesting way of uh looking at how you've grown over the years is through communication via exposure to a lot of foreign clients and a lot of people that you're having to deal with in your travels.
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But when it comes to like taking a photograph of a subject, how do you balance intention and accident?
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Do you trust one more than the other?
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Naraviku nayoni Moshi so Narisa Sanostra Motomity Sashing Tateba Shiro Hori de Ko business pokanto pasito atemo.
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Nunca jibunde jibundeto suda tonka chupto, jibuntak tikiniwa monotarina to moto.
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Shatosan Sategawa Tato de Pitoy must you te jibundeco idea you te co karukto te mitari to kaste, masoremo isha no himisitara Silwa Yorokon de Koditari toka.
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No.
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Maribikuka taikutanatokiwa.
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Jibun de Sonoshtonich, Atarasite andoste Naribiktorio, Ama Timasne.
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Tatamarita inasimke kotarituka.
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In your photography, uh what role does uh absence play?
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What happens just outside the frame?
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What's a home page anymore?
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Tabajiban no home page no, shokai tablesono.
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Nandaruna.
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Koto canaruna.
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So karamiere son of it's not a kanga kikoskidis.
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I think that that's what makes a photographer, you know, with your kind of style unique because you're kind of looking at so many elements beyond just that shot, you know.
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You you are very considerate of what's happening just outside the frame.
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And by the way, we'll link all we'll leave all the links down below to your website so people can come and have a look at your work uh if they want to sort of do a deep dive into Rio's craft and art.
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So here's the links.
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Head over to the website.
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Were you a rebel when you were younger?
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Were you a naughty boy or a good boy?
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Oh naughty boy.
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Naughty boy.
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Did you enjoy going to school and study?
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I love Gaku amo mindy.
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So you you were curious about travel from a very young age.
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I think explorer would be a good title to put next to your name as well.
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You're you you're dressed in the right attire.
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You look like a an explorer that's ready to head off into some unknown destination.
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But from a young age it seems you were curious, a little bit rebellious, and uh we couldn't we couldn't keep you in a box.
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Yeah, I was just gonna say with every with every negative when when one door closes, another opens, and uh you did the best thing a person could have done to draw from the positives of a negative situation.
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But in this instance, you've created your own uh positive from a negative situation with the client, and it allowed it it's actually helped you to grow as a photographer.
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What is next?
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What is your dreams and goals?
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What do you what do you see in the future?
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Do you have any like big plans, any dreams that you're still reaching for, that you're on your way to?
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Matoa, announy, no resolve to you.
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Konka inokono nanga interview to Kamojibuni Tote nankasugue atarashi n di Ma Kotoshwa are this.
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What what does surfing mean to you?
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What does it give you?
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What does it mean to you personally?
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What is being in the ocean?
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In the water, uh being with your girlfriend in the water.
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What does that give you as a person?
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Nanda.
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Any influences growing up?
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Did you have a sensei?
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Like a mentor?
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So you know, I say nah this night.
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So this me at the sky.
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What does the ocean mean to me?
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Yeah, the ocean Sure, that's a deep question.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, the ocean means so much more to me than a lot of things because um you know it's a place I would go to spend time um with my friends, with my it was a place that I could kind of my dad left us when I was young.
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So the ocean I could go and um let my anger out.
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And surfing gave that to me.
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It was a place for me to um feel free, get my anger out, and if I wanted to get emotional, um yeah, no one could see me cry when I'm surfing.
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No, it means and I'm sure that it means so much to so many people in the same way, you know.
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It's somewhere to go to escape from the problems on the land, and you get out in the ocean, and then it um fills you back up again.
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It's been absolutely wonderful getting to know you, Ryo, and your work is um you can see your passion and your love and care, your creative sort of outpouring in your work.
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Thank you for sharing all that you have with me today.
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Um, it's been an absolute pleasure sitting here in the sun with you, learning about your journey and your story.
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Um, it's also wonderful to hear how you've got a community here now and that you're supporting your girlfriend on her quest in her surfing career.
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What a wonderful time it is, and I hope that you continue to put more good energy out into the world.
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So I must just say thank you on behalf of Vast and myself and Dave for taking time out of your busy schedule to chat to me.
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Um, Arigato Sama.
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Thank you very much,