Lauren of Love: Whenever I'm doing the podcast and I'm welcoming a new guest, like it's always just a space for us to flow and like we don't have to feel like anybody's listening. We're just gonna have a dialogue and I
Helena Woods: Love it.
Lauren of Love: have so many questions about astro cartography. So yeah, we're
Helena Woods: Yes.
Lauren of Love: we're gonna have a great time. I feel it. Where
Helena Woods: I love it. Totally. I love when it flows too.
Lauren of Love: where are you located, sweetie?
Helena Woods: I'm in Versailles, outside of Paris in France.
Lauren of Love: my god, that's so beautiful. What did you move there?
Helena Woods: Yeah. Yeah, I moved here two years ago and it's amazing 'cause I'm steps away from the gardens and every day I just walk in the Versailles gardens. It's magical.
Lauren of Love: I'm assuming you move there 'cause your charts tell you that it's a good place for you.
Helena Woods: Well, it's crazy because I didn't know about astrogotography until my husband got a job in France in 2018. And I just wanted to leave the US and experience a couple of years abroad just to experience something different. We moved out here and I felt home for the first time in my life. And I had never felt that feeling of like, this is my place.
Lauren of Love: Really?
Helena Woods: And that's when I got into astrogratography, was we had already moved here and then I found it.
Lauren of Love: Wow. So you were like, this feels I've never felt the sensation of home. Where are you from originally?
Helena Woods: San Diego, California.
Lauren of Love: my God. Okay. So you have so much to educate me on. I and you were saying before I we pressed record, you were just talking about how like our charts have a lot of similarities. So I feel
Helena Woods: yeah.
Lauren of Love: like, yeah, you're gonna teach me all the things. And I also just have like a forewarning disclosure, just so you know. I got two I have two doggies. She's not supposed to be in here, but she snuck in. and I have eight chicks downstairs, little baby chickens. So I have to kind of monitor while we're doing podcast to make sure. So all of that to say, I wanted to bring that up to mention s we found each other because you saw I posted on Instagram that I didn't know where I wanted to live. I was getting frustrated. And I recently made this commitment to root down where I currently am and I wanna know. what the fuck it's all about over here because
Helena Woods: Yes.
Lauren of Love: this is just a hard area for me in general energetically.
Helena Woods: Where are you?
Lauren of Love: I'm in Connecticut. Yeah. So I'm in Connecticut and there are definitely places that I totally
Helena Woods: yeah.
Lauren of Love: feel activated by, but there are also places that I'm like, am I dying 17 times? Like I've only been here since 2018, but I feel like I've had eight lifetimes. So so we want to talk about all these things and especially because I'm rooted here now in Connecticut, I feel like that's gonna really provide me knowledge and wisdom from you. So first, before we do anything. Can you can you share and introduce yourself, Mama? Astrocartography, like you found this path through your own life. Tell me about the journey for you and and what people need to know if they're learning this new modality.
Helena Woods: Yeah. So my name's Helena and I learned about astrophotography when I moved to France in 2018. I've been obsessed with astrology since I was a kid. My mom had her astrology, her astrologer make an info packet for me when I was born, when I was a newborn baby. So yeah,
Lauren of Love: Duh, really?
Helena Woods: and cause she was really into it and she wanted to know about my chart and everything. And we lived around the corner from an astrology, like spiritual bookshop. And so I used to, I was just always reading astrology books in high school. And I always loved it. And it's like that thing that you always go back to is always giving you a clue as
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: to what your purpose is. Like the thing
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: that you can't stop thinking about, you can't stop Googling, the books you keep being drawn to. And so I always loved it, but I never thought it would be my career. It was just something I never even thought about. Moved to New York, was a photographer, did theater, and then my gosh, you two?
Lauren of Love: Stop me too. Yeah, wait, where did you live in Manhattan?
Helena Woods: I lived all over, but mainly Harlem on one thirty fifth and Broadway.
Lauren of Love: my God, I spent so much time there 'cause I was dating a guy who lived right over there. I lived all the way up. I was at like well I was like at eighty first for a little bit, but then I went all the way, all the way up, like into where Van Courtland Park is. So it's not really
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: considered the city anymore, but my god. Okay, so you were doing the theater thing and then photography
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: in Manhattan. This is so tell me more. This is so funny.
Helena Woods: I know. I know. So I was doing theater. I've been doing theater my whole life since I was a kid. And so I moved to New York when I was 18. Like I'm gonna do the whole open call thing. I'm just gonna wake up at four in the morning and do it. Yes!
Lauren of Love: Yep. Backdoor magazine, like
Helena Woods: Backstage. Yes, exactly. Yes. And
Lauren of Love: Next stage. Yeah, my god.
Helena Woods: it was fun. I met so many people and it was an enjoyable ex it was hard. You know, I was serving tables, it was juggling a lot of different jobs, and my dad suddenly passed out of nowhere. And it was such a huge shock in my life that like I needed time to heal and just refigure out like what are my values? What's really important to me? Like life is so short. What what do I really want to spend my time doing? And I realized it wasn't the theater, like being an actor that was what I wanted to do. It was self-expression. It was creativity. It was, you know, that ability to like psychologically understand a character. And then become it. Like that's what I was fascinated by. And so I picked up a camera and I started a photography business to like heal. And I did that for five years. And then my husband and I, we met in New York on my relationship line. So kind of getting into the astro cartography component of this. It's like, okay, so I lived in California on my moon career line, which is so big about like performing, being on stage theater, moved to New York. To a Mercury relationship line, met my husband, and all my friends and relationships in my life come from there.
Lauren of Love: Wow.
Helena Woods: Then we get married, we decide to leave the US, he gets a job in France, I'm like, let's go. We quickly get married, get the visa, go out to France, and I learn about astrophotography on a podcast. And I didn't know it at the time, but I had just moved to my homeland in the world. And it's Venus, and Venus is associated with slow living, simple joys, slowing down to really enjoy life.
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: And it was so different from New York and the Mercury line, which is like fast and learning and relationships and connections. I go to Venus, I slow down, I start making these creative short films on YouTube about slow living and the simple joys. And then I find astrocartography. It's and it just all happens. And it all just happens. And it's
Lauren of Love: It all makes sense.
Helena Woods: and it's like it life took me back to astrology. And it was the thing
Lauren of Love: This is incredible.
Helena Woods: in like when I would I would skip college classes, I would skip sometimes auditions, and I would go to the bookstore and read astrology books. And it's like it
Lauren of Love: my god.
Helena Woods: was always there. The clues were always there. But it's fascinating how place can awaken or activate a storyline for you. So like I don't know if I ever would have become an astrologer if I hadn't moved to France. Because France
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: holds the story in the chart. It's called a relocation chart, which is essentially like a birth chart. But it's as if if you were born in a different country or a different part of the world, here's what the story looks like in detail. And s and so
Lauren of Love: Well, this is what I I just wanted to ask you this and it's interesting it's coming up because one of the things that I was curious about from your expec your perspective, do you believe that there are like multiple timelines for one individual and it just depends on where you choose to go to make that timeline happen? Wow.
Helena Woods: Yes, absolutely. I believe that there are options and possibilities and potentials. And then your free will, you get to choose which route you want to go down. But I also do believe that there's something about our soul that chooses to be in certain places at certain times.
Lauren of Love: Mm. Mm mm.
Helena Woods: And so we'll feel the call for some reason to go travel to that place or to move somewhere for a specific lesson or story or theme.
Lauren of Love: Yeah.
Helena Woods: And so for you in Connecticut, you have a Pluto I see line going through Connecticut.
Lauren of Love: feel like I'm dying all the time and flew like this is just cr wait, but hold on, before you tell me details on this, I just want to make sure we're clarifying for our community. So basically, and it's just so cute the way that you tell the story, because you're like, Yeah, I flew to Venus and then I was like living in Mars, and then so it's like really just so adorable. But basically well, to translate for the community, right? Because I do know a little bit, astrocartography captures, correct me if I'm wrong, where the planets were when you were born and And the la the lines of that, the ley lines or whatever they're called, right they tell you what crosses over certain places. So explain this in a more appropriate fashion than my my basic understanding here.
Helena Woods: Yeah. So at the moment you took your first breath, Venus was setting somewhere in the world. The sun was rising in some part of the world. And the sun was setting at one part in the world. Sun was culminating at the highest point of light. And then the sun was the sun was also in the darkest part of midnight, right? In the darkest part of the night. At in somewhere in the world, the sun was at that point. And so what when you were born, just as you have a birth chart, you also have a map. And it's a fixed, static forever map that shows you these power places of like where the planets were at their most energetic influence in the world. And it's and each planet represents something very specific, like a specific energy. So like the sun represents willpower, self-expression, vitality. You know, Mercury represents communication, learning, thoughts, connections with people. So each of these planets represents something very specific. But then when it's on one of the four angles, so ascendant, descendant, MC, I see, these are like the four navigation points in a chart. So it shows, you know, like MC. Okay, the sun was culminating in this part of the world or the sun was at the yeah, it's at the
Lauren of Love: Culminating meaning like it's like really strong? Okay.
Helena Woods: highest point of visibility in the daytime. MC, yeah.
Lauren of Love: Got it. That's an C you're saying. Okay.
Helena Woods: And the MC also relates to our calling in life, our career, our visibility, how we're most seen. So wherever the sun was on the MC, somewhere in the world at the moment you were born, that's the place where you experience a lot of exposure. You're very visible, people see you, but it's also
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: where you step into your potential and your purpose with your calling and life direction.
Lauren of Love: be so curious about this because I I have Sedona is my jam. Like Sedona is a fire of land for me. I love going there. I bring people there. I get so much visibility. My whole brand blew up when I went there. W Tell me, tell me, tell me. Your I your eyes are going, is there something there?
Helena Woods: my gosh, yeah. Well, you know what it is? The closest line you have to you is two lines. First, you have Mars on the mid-heaven, and you have Mars and Aries in your birth chart. So it's also gonna correspond to the map. Mars and Aries is courageous, the entrepreneur, the trailblazer, the person who goes out on the battlefield at the arena and like leads people. And it's very energetic, enthusiastic, confident. And so there's that magnetic quality. Now that's actually going exactly through Dallas, Texas, but it's close enough that you're getting influence from it in Arizona. And it's on your career. It's on your your business,
Lauren of Love: Ва
Helena Woods: your visibility. It's the MC in in that area.
Lauren of Love: my god, and that's really funny that you say that because just yesterday I was looking at some really beautiful luxury spa and I was like, Where is this? I need to go. It was Dallas and I was I was like, Whoa, this is so interesting. I've never been called to Dallas before. So that's phenomenal. Wow.
Helena Woods: my gosh. It's going right through there. Right through there. And you also, another thing, and this is something not a lot of people talk about on social media, but you have this in everyone has on their maps these things called parent lines. And parent lines are latitude lines. So like San Francisco is gonna be different for you than San Diego or Los Angeles because of the latitude. Are you going more north? Are you going more south? Because these
Lauren of Love: Yeah.
Helena Woods: astrophotography lines, they go like longitude, right? So up and down, straight up and down an area. But the latitude kind of gives you even more precision on like what's coming up in this town. And so for you in Sedona, you have Saturn Chiron, which is leading people through healing. Yeah. No, it's right there in Sedona.
Lauren of Love: Stop. You're not mi you're mi you're not making this up. That's so crazy.
Helena Woods: It's like being an authority and people respect and look up to you in the healing teaching road modality. And then you have a Jupiter node also going through Sedona. And Jupiter is abundance, growth, expansion. And the nodes are like fate, destiny, significance in your life. And Jupiter also relates to spirituality and teaching. So all that whole story at that latitude of Sedona was really activated by these themes.
Lauren of Love: This is cra and yeah, and then I'm over here dying on Pluto in Connecticut, like
Helena Woods: Why did you move to Connecticut? And I'm gonna tell you the pros and the cons of Connecticut, but I'm curious, like why did you why did you end up moving there?
Lauren of Love: Yeah, I sh was that should have met you way before we had this conversation. So funny. So I'm originally from Long Island. Okay. So I grew up never really feeling like I fully belonged there, never really identifying, always wanting to get out, escape. Went and lived in Manhattan for a little while. And then I met my husband and he lived in Connecticut. So we ended up moving out to Connecticut and that's where we have been. long term. Now, don't get me wrong, there are certain places like I love Hawaii with him. We get very lit up by Hawaii together. There are certain energies that he really I think thrives in for Connecticut where I like struggle. It's like it feels like I'm dying and being reborn all the time, anytime I'm here. But I travel a lot, so I'm not here all the time. so yeah, what do you see? What do you know?
Helena Woods: Yeah, so there's some beautiful things about this place. And there's also, you have Pluto on the IC, and Pluto is about transformation. Think of shedding, death, rebirth, metaphorical, right? The Phoenix rising from the ashes, but it's also about looking back to your beliefs, your foundations from childhood. And another thing, and transforming that and stepping into your power with your beliefs in your childhood and the past. But it's also really big in terms of ancestry, lineage, and past lives. So this is like the past lifeline that people consistently tell me: like, I feel like I've lived here in this part of the world. Can you tell
Lauren of Love: Yes.
Helena Woods: me what's there? And it's always Pluto on the IC. And you have that going right through this area. So there
Lauren of Love: Wow.
Helena Woods: could be a past life connection with this place of like stepping into power, alchemizing difficult experiences to then teach and share with other people through that. Pluto is also psychology. So, like, I don't know if you've you have an interest here of like learning about human psychology or neuroscience. Yeah. Neuroscience,
Lauren of Love: that's my whole bookshelf. my god. Yeah.
Helena Woods: helping people get to the root of like fear. That is a great way to like use this energy. You also do have the moon on the MC really close by, which is a career line. And it's about being a voice for people, for humanity. The moon is about feeling really in touch with the collective's needs and desires and like what they need to feel. connected with themselves and that's on your career. So it's like you're very, you're very seen for your vulnerability, your emotional expression, and like being connected with the people. So that's a really nice thing that you have in this area too.
Lauren of Love: So when you're learning about as a client through their astro cartography, like you're you're not just learning about what land is good for them, you're actually learning about the person. That's crazy. This is crazy.
Helena Woods: Yeah. And like what what experiences, what events, but also like what life lessons and soul stories are waiting to be unlocked for that person in that location. And the
Lauren of Love: Yeah.
Helena Woods: the crazy thing too is like you don't even really need to travel. Obviously, moving and traveling, you're gonna get the full experience of the energy, the story, everything. But these lines, they are these storybooks, like a natal promise storybook. That you can connect with at any time. So like you might find that the people you hire, the people you work with, they all live in this part of the country. Or you might find that like at some point in life you get an opportunity to speak somewhere. And in that location, you have a career line. and it's and it's the stories are playing out now. So like your relationships, your connections, if you
Lauren of Love: Yeah.
Helena Woods: go, you know, if you find that you're drawn to a certain part of the world, a culture, a language. And like you find that you love to watch YouTube vlogs of people who are living in that place, you're already connecting with astro cartography in that way.
Lauren of Love: Yeah, I was gonna say, like, even one of the things I wanted to ask you was like home decor or like, you know, the way that we dress or the food that we eat or like the books we read. Like I just recently got a book I was reading, I Medusa. Like Greek mythology was just like really coming in hot. And I I was so against Greek mythology for a long time. And when I was younger as a kid, just because of my conditioning in childhood, I was like very opposed to it. But now I'm like tell me more about these characters. And Cleopatra I was getting really into. So I guess, yeah, that's something to ask about too. Just like can we start getting immersed in like things like books or movies that can actually turn on those codes for us?
Helena Woods: Absolutely. And the places I would really look to on your map are your moon lines and also your I see lines. Because the I see is really connected to foundations, beliefs, but also the past. So places where you feel a connection
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: with the land, the culture, the history of a place. And like you have a sun I see line, for instance, which is like feeling really lit up by a culture or place. That's going through Spain. And it also goes through the UK and Scotland. Have you ever felt connected to those places in the world?
Lauren of Love: Scotland, yes. I felt very connected to Scotland and also definitely the concept of being able to explore any aspect of the UK just like always made me feel excited for some reason. So it's really funny that you said that. What was the first place you said that it was running through? It was the UK, Scotland, and Spain. Wow,
Helena Woods: Yeah. Yeah. It goes right through Spain. Spain and then it goes up through the UK. Mm-hmm.
Lauren of Love: that's interesting. And my best friend lived in Spain temporarily for a little while, which is an interesting
Helena Woods: Wow.
Lauren of Love: correlation. Wh where for my sunline, where's my sunline dancing around all over the world?
Helena Woods: So that's one location. That's where your sun line is going through. Other spots in the world where you have your sun line. And by the way, I looked at your chart, and your best lines are Jupiter, Sun, and Mercury. So when you're looking at your map, really pay attention to those specific lines because those are really well placed in your birth chart. You also have a sun rising line going through Miramar, very close to like Bangladesh area and Thailand.
Lauren of Love: Crazy wait, I was thinking of running an event in Thailand. Stop it. That's so cool.
Helena Woods: I love it. That would be beautiful. So beautiful. You also have a home line going through Thailand. So that feeling of like connection to the roots, the history, the place, feeling that home connection is going right through that area.
Lauren of Love: Wow, that is really, really cool.
Helena Woods: Bali is also really magical. Have you been to Bali?
Lauren of Love: Mm mm, no.
Helena Woods: You have a Jupiter I see line going through Bali. That's also going through, let's see, South Korea as well. But
Lauren of Love: Wow.
Helena Woods: the thing about astro cartography like we have so many lines, right? And it's like certain countries you're gonna feel a call to, and others you don't. And it's really just a matter of like honoring and trusting your intuition when you see these lines. So, like if you see a beautiful Jupiter I see line. You might not feel connected to Bali, but you might feel really connected to, for instance, South Korea or the Philippines, or like with the sun line in Europe, that connection with the UK and Scotland, but it's also going through Spain. So that's that's really cool, is like kind of seeing like where exactly it's going through, and then what places have you already felt a calling toward? That's kind of the compass.
Lauren of Love: Yeah, yeah. I really think this is such an interesting modality and I feel like it's a really a missed modality for some reason. I feel like it's something that people aren't really paying much attention to. Why do you why do you think it's dismissed and what do you think is powerful about it for a woman who's trying to, you know, let's say like grow herself, get to know herself, deepen her relationship with her gifts or her medicine? What would be the reason why somebody would want to lean into this study?
Helena Woods: Well, people will have more ease in their lives overall. Like when you're in places that better support you astrologically, you feel energetically better. And when you feel better in a location, you have more energy, you have more that you want to do, you take more actions. Like the results start happening a lot more when you feel good. So that's one thing is like be in places you thrive is what I always say. Like if you're able to be in a place where you thrive, use it. and travel too. Like maybe you don't live somewhere but you want to travel to a location, you can activate a story and get inspired by something that happens there that then you take home and you continue nurturing that story that you just opened up. So, like for instance, like let's say people like go to Italy and they get inspired by the handbags, and they're so inspired by you know the the beauty, the architecture, and then they go back home to New York. And they decide, I wanna start a clothing liner, I wanna start a handbag line based on my experiences, the inspiration that I got from Italy. So that's kind of a way that astrophotography is playing out. and it it just makes things easier. It gets you on the fast track, and it also points to your evolving consciousness as you move through life. It's like it's like you're pulling out aspects of you that you've always wanted to explore or go deeper on. So let's say you've
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: You've wanna you really want to fine-tune your relationship with your mom or female friendships, like your sisterhood kind of story. Going to certain lines like a moon line or a Venus line will bring that event and experience, but also the energy of tapping deeper into that topic when you're there.
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: and you know, I really think the astrophotography hasn't been as big until now because of the transits of the astrological movement that's happening right now in the sky. The guy that created this in the 1970s, his name was Jim Lewis. And he created this during the transit that we are now experiencing, the Saturn-Neptune conjunction. And so this story,
Lauren of Love: Really?
Helena Woods: yeah, and that's called like a reoccurrence transit. And it's when something happens in the past that the story then comes up again in a different time in history because the transit's coming up again. And so Astro cartography is getting so big right now because of the Saturn-Neptune conjunction, because it's just reflecting that which is already happening.
Lauren of Love: I feel like I need you to read me my chart every day. Like I think
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: I like before I get out of bed, like Helena, like what's going on? Like tell me the status. Give me the weather. It really does feel like a weather report for my emotions and my spiritual health, honestly.
Helena Woods: yeah. And every day you can see it's it I've been doing this work for so many years and to this day I get like shocked when I see what I'm feeling something or something's opening up for me on that day and then I look at the transits and it's there on the chart. It's literally
Lauren of Love: Wow.
Helena Woods: showing the new moon in Gemini just activated this story. It's wild and you know, for you know, just some things about you. You're entering like in your timing of your life, your biography of your life story, there's there's something called zodiacal releasing, which essentially shows you your biography of your book and like the timeline of your biography, of like when are certain things happening. And so for you, you are literally gonna activate the biggest peak period of your entire life. And it starts June 2027. So in June, end of June 2027. This is the first time in your life you'll ever like this is the first time you haven't experienced this yet. You'll enter what's called a peak period. And a peak period is when your life events open up. Like it's like you get to section three of your biography. You're you're about to enter section three of your book in June of 27. And section three of your biography is the main event of your life. And it's
Lauren of Love: It's like that peak, yeah.
Helena Woods: the peak. It's like the moment of like most events, most things are happening to you. It's the moment where I'm getting full body chills where you're like fully in your power and experiencing the life events that you're meant to do. And this is with your career and life direction. And this is a major peak. You haven't even been in it yet. Like part one of your life was zero to 12 years old. Part two of your life was 12 to 38 and a half. So right now you are literally in a completion period right now for the next year.
Lauren of Love: Wait, was that j wait, just to clarify, that's those are my phases one and two. That's not like everybody, right? Like everybody has it's just me Okay, zero to twelve and then t
Helena Woods: This is you specifically. Everyone's got their own biography. But like 0 to 12. And then twelve to thirty-eight was part two of your life. And that was what was called the prep phase, the preparatory phase of life.
Lauren of Love: Jesus Christ.
Helena Woods: I know. But you're about to enter part three, and part three is the main event. And so what I recommend for you this year, f started May first of twenty-sixth until June twenty-fifth of twenty-seven, it is a completion. It is wrapping up and finishing. every like part of the story that you've been in so far because you're about
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: to enter a whole new s section of your life. Whole new section of your life. And also, let's see if this is yeah, this is gonna be more positive for you. A lot more positive because you've been in a it's it's the preparatory phase has been more challenging in your style releasing.
Lauren of Love: Yeah, it sucks. Get me out, man. Sign me out.
Helena Woods: like but like this is what astrology shows you it shows you not only the places you thrive and like where are your people where are your connections but also like
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: the timing of your life book and one of the reasons I got really into this was because you know it gives you clarity as to like okay I'm not crazy I'm exactly perfectly on time I can't mess this up I can't get it wrong I'm on time
Lauren of Love: Yeah, it's really interesting that you're speaking these things because the season that I'm in specific I know that we're recording this and it's gonna be released in months from now because we're just so ahead
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: of schedule. But where I am currently in the start of twenty twenty six I felt this really strong desire to pull all of my energy back. Like I had been on the road and I was traveling across the world and I was doing all these medicine sits and I was like, I can't keep Going, going, going. I need to get quiet. Like something is really calling me to kind of isolate. So I shut down from like all of my friends, all my social circles, all my obligations, and I like hibernated all winter. And when I came out, the word that I had picked for the year was rooted. This word rooted. And I've been constantly drum. doing that. Like I need to root. I need to root. And so we had this property that opened up down the block and I was like, am I going to move there? And that felt really chaotic and crazy, but it ended up not working out. And it made me realize I'm rooting here. So now I'm building this structure on my property to have people and that's not going to be ready till the summer of next year. Which is just like
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: it's just ridiculously timed to hear you say that.
Helena Woods: And that's a thirty that's a thirty year cycle that you're beginning. That literally starts that it's a thirty year chapter of your life that's beginning next summer. Yeah.
Lauren of Love: Thirty years. And I really hope it is easier because it has been rough, man. Like the initiations,
Helena Woods: Yeah, yeah.
Lauren of Love: the struggles, the you know, looking at my shadow, doing the inner work, like everything has been very pressurized. So I feel like I I don't know, I'm looking forward to that. Like that sounds nice.
Helena Woods: It it will be easier. It will be easier because in this new phase it's being aspected by Jupiter, which is the greater benefic, the planet that gives you support and faith and hope and blessings. So yeah, it's a lot it's gonna be a lot easier for you. And also right now you're in a nodal return, which happens once every nineteen years too. So it's like you're in a huge marker of time of completion and like finishing things to move into this new chapter. And I'm really excited for you. And I think You know, being on
Lauren of Love: Thank you.
Helena Woods: your Pluto IC line, the story of having a property, having land, bringing people together. That's Pluto I see, the foundations of the land, and this being an important place for you to do transfor transformational work. And
Lauren of Love: Mm-hmm.
Helena Woods: then the moon MC line, which is like connecting with the people and connecting with people's hearts. And that's all in the East Coast. That doesn't mean it won't be
Lauren of Love: It's all here. That's crazy.
Helena Woods: intense, though, because Pluto does represent intensity. But I will say that the the timing of your life is a lot more supportive once we get into this.
Lauren of Love: What can we ask a question here about like the th how how can I word this? We have like astrocartography, we have astro a astrology, right? And then we have human design, right? And
Helena Woods: Yeah. Yeah.
Lauren of Love: and so I mean and then we have the Enneagram and and
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: all these different things, like what do you suggest is like the most important of all of that to follow? I feel like they kind of all layer one another, but I'm curious your thoughts.
Helena Woods: Yeah, they all show the same thing. They're just different ways of so human design shows you, you know, your energy and how best to work with your energy for your health and your well-being and all of that and making decisions. But your birth chart is showing a different aspect of it. It's the same thing, though. It's showing the exact same thing, but it's more concrete. And it's also astrology is really great for understanding the timing of your life. Like
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: when are certain storylines gonna get active? When are you gonna be feeling better mentally, physically? Like astrology, I always like to say it's kind of like a clock on the wall. The clock isn't making it 3 p.m., but it's showing that it is 3 p.m. And that's what astrology does.
Lauren of Love: I see.
Helena Woods: It's these moving planets, they show us this is what's happening on Earth right now. And you have a birth chart that's unique to the exact minute that you were born. And that birth chart shows you your talents, your gifts, your purpose, your fate, your relationships, everything. But the timing shows like, okay, when is something going to be happening for this person? When is a door opening? When is that connection going to be started? And then astrophartography is just your places, your places in the world and where they are.
Lauren of Love: But it all gives you, I think, for me, just even having this conversation and having you like mirror certain things to me when I ask questions and even just, you know, your awareness that you're presencing. I feel like it all gives me this permission to exhale in some capacity, right? And to understand a little bit more deeply. And time and location, I think, are two things that, you know, we in the human experience are very uncomfortable with. Like for the longest time I when I was living here up until probably Two or three months ago, I have no idea what happened in my own chart, but about two or three months ago, I was finally like, you know what? I might be here forever. This might be my home base. I may not move to a new location. We had not been able to figure that out. And so yeah, it was creating a lot of stress and a lot of worry and time as well. This feeling like, my God, I have so much to do. I'm behind my schedule.
Helena Woods: It's
Lauren of Love: So I feel like it really creates at least as I'm hearing it, a great sense of ease, you know?
Helena Woods: Yeah, yeah. And that's, you know, your Mars and Aries too moves fast. But your moon in Taurus craves that stillness, that quiet, that connection to the physical, the senses, smell, nature to slow down. And so when you feel that need to go faster, do your moon. I always like to say do your moon because your moon is showing you like what do you crave for safety and nourishment. And you also have
Lauren of Love: Slowness.
Helena Woods: Yeah, slowness. And you have that in the 10th house of career, which means like being seen, I would imagine is important to you. Like expressing yourself so that you give p other people permission to connect with their heart and slow down too. And so that's a huge part of your chart and a huge part of like the gifts of your chart. But and you have so many activations coming up this year. I'm really excited to see like what new things are starting for you this summer. Because Jupiter, the planet of growth, is entering the house of you and your identity.
Lauren of Love: Really? When does that happen for me?
Helena Woods: Yeah. That starts in July. Jupiter is growth, faith, abundance, new beginnings, this feeling of just like, I'm gonna go after, I'm gonna go pursue that thing. And that's that's starting this July. It's very fun. And you're Leo rising, so yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes.
Lauren of Love: This is so cool. Yeah, I am a Leo Rise. I love it. this is so cool. I'm I'm so happy that like you're providing me so much information in this dialogue and it's really informing me and making me feel like this conversation is coming literally at the most perfect time. And I think for everybody who's listening who's feeling like a little bit maybe jumbled or overwhelmed. Can you also speak to like what is happening on the macro level of astrology? 'Cause since I have you here as like an OG astrological girl, yeah, maybe you can educate on the macrocosm as well if you feel like that's okay.
Helena Woods: Yeah. We yeah, we are in a huge time of change. I've been preparing the people on YouTube for so many years because it's like this is the year where everything changes in the sense on a collective level of things are moving faster. Because for so many years we've been in this water earth energy, and it's a lot more on structure and government and building, but now we're in this acceleration age of fire and air. And fire and air, it's all about speed, ideas, technology, innovation. And some of my predictions are like, you know, we're gonna have a lot more robots in our life literally helping us with groceries. We're gonna be having, you know, AI is gonna accelerate in these next two years. And I think also the pushback against AI will also intensify, especially in the beginning of 2028. There'll be a lot more like new technological regulations that are start getting in place around then. But I think the big thing, the big like collective energy is like people are really stepping into their authority and their self-sovereignty and like really being themselves. Like there's
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: less of you know, trying to keep up with people and it's more about like individuality. And this is because Saturn, but specifically Neptune, which represents the collective ideal of like what are the dreams, visions, and ideals of the collective currently. It's been in Pisces since 2011, which is more about the dream and its spirituality and law of attraction, and you know, more of the witchy things too, like tarot. But now, just recently, Neptune entered Aries, and Aries is about being yourself rather than the group. So it's about
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: owning what you want, having strong boundaries, letting go of people pleasing, being your independent individual self. Like there's gonna be a lot more of that. Fiery independent energy that we're gonna see for the next 14 years grow and intensify. And we'll start really seeing it in like two years. It tends to take the collective a few years to get going into a new energy, but we're already starting to see it. The unfortunate side of this transit is it is usually a time of war, especially for the United States.
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: and so I am waiting to see what happens this July and going into the summer. because there are Themes, like kind of like what we talked about with reoccurrence transits, where like something comes up again in the collective. The last time the US, specifically the birth chart of the US, has had these transits was World War II, Civil War, and American Revolutionary War. So those are the last time that this ever happened.
Lauren of Love: Wow.
Helena Woods: We're in the first time since World War II where this transit's coming up again. And it remains to be seen: is this a war with another country or is it more internal divide and unrest, kind of like the Civil War?
Lauren of Love: Right.
Helena Woods: It's really a matter of seeing what happens this summer. But my advice to people is like more than ever, nervous system regulation is number one. It's the most essential to just stay connected to yourself in times when
Lauren of Love: Mm-hmm.
Helena Woods: the world is moving fast, when there's a lot more conflict or divisiveness, or just you know, technology feeling kind of chaotic. The the coming back to your body is something that's gonna be so healing. Especially with Chiron and Taurus that's starting this sweet.
Lauren of Love: Yeah, this is a really beautiful conversation to talk about. I think one of the things I've been having conversation with my husband about on this, you know, the United States is really the most expansive and aggressive when it comes to AI technology. When you look at everything
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: that's going on in the world, right? The United States is kinda like, go for it. And everybody else is like, wait a minute, hold on, like we gotta talk about this. And I've been watching like The weirdest things on the internet, like just as an example, Oprah Winfrey did this round table. Did you see her round table on AI?
Helena Woods: No.
Lauren of Love: my God, she did this round table. And like this girl was like talking about how she built this relationship with ChatGPT and ChatGPT told her that she was a star seed and that she should quit her job because she's gonna like rescue the next world, whatever. And then my husb I brought up to my husband, he said, Yeah, you know, a guy, a guy was convinced to murder somebody. Like ChatGPT told him to actually murder somebody and he did. And like it's actually like in court right now or something. So I feel like there's just a lot that's happening with like the disempowerment of the subconscious that
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: is being infiltrated through AI. Don't get me wrong, like there's so much beauty around the advancement of technology. I don't think technology is wrong, but I think that we're
Helena Woods: Yeah.
Lauren of Love: not discerning enough in these things. So I really I love how you're saying this with curiosity of like, is it an internal battle, you know, within the United States? Is it the United States and others? But I think ultimately, regardless of whether or not that manifests, we are in a time right now where there is this huge clash and polarization of like what are what are we doing? Like, can we talk about this? Is this okay? Is this right? Is this safe? And it's really opening up a beauty of Yeah, discernment, I think, for a lot of people and that body component of like, yeah, trusting the body and learning how to listen to the body is so important in times like this. This this intense energy that's coming through, I when I look at it, I feel like it's been going on just as like a more and more and more and more and more over like the last I wanna say like ten years. Is there something that's been in the cycle for the last decade that's present?
Helena Woods: Well, what's been happening is Pluto and Saturn met up in 2020. And that was a big world shift. And that was kind of the restructuring of foundations. So that was one thing. And then the other thing was no Uranus is an eight-year period. And then Neptune was 14 years. So that would have been Neptune and Pisces. That started in 2011, though. And that was A lot more of like people getting lost to like drugs,
Lauren of Love: Mm.
Helena Woods: losing themselves, groupthink. That's been a theme since 2011. But 2020 was like the year pocket where like all the astrologers were predicting that something crazy would happen at the beginning of the year. And that's, you know, that's actually what got me really into predictive astrology, was because so many people were talking about it that when it happened, when COVID, you know, the pandemic started, I was just like, my god, all the astrologers. Called this.
Lauren of Love: They were right. They were right.
Helena Woods: And the next thing is like this summer is like changing more change. It's not going to be like COVID at all.
Lauren of Love: Yeah.
Helena Woods: But it is, you know, it brings a new disruption to the space. And so it's just, it, I gotta say, it's really a fascinating time to be an astrologer or to be learning astrology right now because life is literally reflecting what the chart is showing in so many ways, whether it was like You know, the full moon and the the Artemis, you know, rocket ship went out, or, you know, there's just it's it's crazy how literal it is, all of this. And I think specifically the West Coast of the United States is what I'm more paying attention to over the next couple of months. Cause there's that that transit that's happening that the US has and experiences, you know, every 84 years or whatever, that's going right through the West Coast in like California. And it does make me wonder if this is an AI thing too, because San Francisco and the tech area is all close to that.
Lauren of Love: So, like what's your favorite part of this? Because I feel like you're so versatile. Like as I'm getting to know you, I'm like more and more like you said before we started you were like you know, following my work. I'm geeking out over you. I'm like, I gotta check out your YouTube, I gotta learn more about you. It's so what is your what's your favorite part of all of it? You do so much and you have so much knowledge.
Helena Woods: I know. I mean, I know. I'm an astrologer first and foremost. So like timing, reading birth charts to help people come back to their talents, their gifts, their purpose, they can really own and live their life natal promise is what I'm really passionate about. And like understanding the timing of it. astro cartography is amazing for people who want to travel, move, or like I would say traveling and moving, like that's kind of The thing I love to help people with when they need that support. But I think the thing that I'm really passionate about now is like helping people, especially in time terms of crisis, or when their life is kind of in a phase of, you know, a lot of things are happening. Like I wanna help people nail down, this theme is coming up in your life. But it this window of opportunities here and here. You know, when there's a good transit, let's take advantage and use that. You know, everything from launching to announcing things to starting new things. I'm just I'm really passionate about specifically helping women thrive in life, knowing astrology. At the end of the day, it's really what it comes down to.
Lauren of Love: So for somebody who is getting lit up over this conversation and wants to start really diving in, are there books you recommend? Are there offerings that you have where people can go deeper? Where can people learn more and advance their knowledge, even if they're like entry level?
Helena Woods: Yeah, definitely get my free cheat sheet. I made this little astrophotography cheat sheet guide, and you can get that at hellenawoods.com slash cheat sheet. It'll be there. I have a YouTube channel with videos. I have a podcast called Cosmic Compass where I talk about all this. I'm on Instagram at Ms. Helena Woods, so it's really your matter of what platform you love most. But I would say the cheat sheet is a great free guide to get started because once you download that, it'll walk you through like how to pull up your astrocartography map. How to pull up the lines and what they mean. I've written down what all the lines mean so that you can like quickly find the line and know what the story is for you there.
Lauren of Love: It's so beautiful. Helena, thank you for like even taking time today. This was an amazing conversation. Any last and final words for any cosmic junkies out there?
Helena Woods: Yeah. I would say your chart is a beautiful expression of who you are at the core of who you are. But so many of us, we get lost on the path, or we have all these excess layers that aren't ours. And it's really a matter of removing the excess to discover the core of who you are, the most the truthful, most authentic, real version of you. I always think of Michelangelo and the Statue of David, how he always talked about how he found the statue of David and carved it by removing the excess marble. And so that's how I like to think of astrology is like who you are, what you came here to do, it's in your chart. And it's just about finding yourself again by removing anything that's not yours.