Ep 46 Different Roads. Same Stage. | Tony Traynor & Shelby K - Herostock 26's Main Stage Performers

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in Ashland. Hey everyone, it's Tom Lamogg, the
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roundtable where heroes talk. Joining us are
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two artists whose careers are at different stages,
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both who share the same passion for connecting
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with audiences through their songs. First, our
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guest, Tony Trader of the Trader Band. He's the
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front man for the band. Tony's a seasoned performer.
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He's a songwriter and an entertainer who spent
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years performing throughout the Midwest. We had
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him on the program last year. He's becoming a
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familiar face with Hero Stock. This is his second
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year back at the main stage at Hero Stock. Tony,
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how's it going? I'm good. How are you doing?
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It's good to have you back, man. I know you've
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been a busy guy. We're going to get into that
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in just a minute. Yeah, thanks for having me
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back. All right. And joining Tony is Shelby Kay.
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Shelby is a rising singer -songwriter whose sound
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blends country with Americana, bluegrass, southern
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rock, blues, and gospel influences. Her music
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is built around honest storytelling and authentic
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performances. Whether she's playing an intimate
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acoustic set or fronting a full band. It's a
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style that quickly is earning her a loyal following
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and making her one of the exciting new artists
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appearing on the main stage at Hero Stock. Shelby,
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welcome to the program. Hi, everyone. Thanks
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for having me, Tom. Glad to be here. Yeah, for
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sure. Round of applause. Thanks, Tony. It's good
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to see you. Now, both of you are performers,
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but you've taken... different paths in terms
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of, you know, your musical journey. I'm hoping
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we can talk a little bit about that. But, you
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know, Tony, let's go ahead and start with you.
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Why don't you give yourself just a quick introduction
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to Hero Stock Nation? So hello, everybody. I'm
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Tony Traynor. Yeah, the Traynor band, we've been
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doing this for going on about nine years, eight,
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nine years. last year was our first year at Herosok
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and we can't wait to come back and play with
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Blackhawk. We mix rock and roll, southern rock,
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modern country, we're kind of everything. I kind
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of revamped the band about two years ago and
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yeah, we haven't stopped since then. So yeah,
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we are playing. I think like 10 shows in the
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three weeks before Hero Stock. So we're going
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to be primed and ready to go for Hero Stock.
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I'll tell you that. Now, I'll I went back to
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our interview from last year, right before you
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took the Hero Stock 25 stage and you had shared
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with us some some of the big name bands that
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you've played with before. So playing with Blackhawk,
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this is going to be a slam dunk for you, but
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maybe you can kind of who have you played with
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in the past? I mean, off the top of my head,
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you know, we've opened for Scotty McCurry. I've
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opened for Eli Young Band a couple of times,
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Chase Beckham, Craig Morgan. Last year at Country
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Drive, we got to play the same day as Trio Revival,
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which was awesome. And then the first year of
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Country Drive Live, we got to open for Eli Young
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Band the one time. Gosh There's a lot. I'll be
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honest. I can't remember all of them on top of
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my head. But yeah, I mean, it's awesome. We're
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very lucky, you know, we We we have an in with
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a couple of places not an in I guess we just
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you know, we always ask hey if you ever need
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an opener just let us know because you know,
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it's kind of it's nice to do you get to make
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some connections and have fun doing it and so
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yeah, we're always open to doing that type of
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thing and So yeah, we've got to do a lot and
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I off the top my head. That's what I can remember
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as right now Yeah, and you you've got you're
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talking about lineup changes Before the program
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itself nine years. You've been doing this It
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is a lineup change something that happens quite
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frequently with you I know that there are bands
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that typically go through that that process,
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but how about the trainer band? you know, it
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was it was something that I knew was coming because
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my old guitar player Trevor and my old drummer
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Mike were both having kids and Trevor was having
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a second kid and he was kind of like, you know,
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it's gonna be kind of hard for me to Kind of
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travel and do as much as the shows as we have
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been and Mike was also having a kid at the same
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time And so they've you know, and we all agreed
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on it, you know, why don't we just play the last
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show? you two step away at the same time, and
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we'll kind of come back and regroup. And I was
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lucky enough to, you know, doing this a while,
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you get to know people, you get to, you know,
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know other musicians and stuff. And so I got
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to asking a couple people to join the band. And
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it kind of was one of those things where it was
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like, maybe we'll just do this one, I threw a
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big birthday show in January in Omaha. And I
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was like, maybe we'll just do a big band show
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for that. And then after that show, everybody
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was just kind of like, You guys want to keep
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doing this together? And so the six of us have
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been together for going on to like two and a
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half years now. So yeah, it's been awesome being
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with this group that we have now. I mean, we
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text all the time. Like I have 18 missed text
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messages from our group right now that we talk
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all the time. We message all the time. Every
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time we're around each other, we have a great
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time. And I think that is important because it
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shows on stage. We have fun, we jam with each
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other, we rock out, we have fun, drink a beer
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or two, and it's a good time. We like to have
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fun. That's for sure. Shelby, I want to bring
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you into the conversation here. I had asked Tony
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earlier, it's like, do you know Shelby? I know
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you guys are in that same area of musicians.
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Right there in the Omaha area. But yeah, and
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the answer that I got from Tony was not only
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do I know her, but we were writing songs, you
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know, last, you know, yesterday. Yeah, I feel
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so blessed to know Tony like Tony. One of the
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things that I love about you is like you don't
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gatekeep. He is a singer's singer, a vocalist,
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a musician's musician. He wants everybody to
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do well. And being Fairly new to the music scene.
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He's given me a lot of different things to do
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as far as like reaching out and I don't know.
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It's just it's really cool because I consider
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you a great friend and Not only what you've built
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with trainer band, but like the songs that you're
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producing and throwing out there He's got a new
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one coming out tonight at midnight, right? Yeah,
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so yeah, just an all -around great guy. Feel
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very blessed to know Tony. Ditto back at you,
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Shelby. Thank you. Appreciate it. I'm liking
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this. Oh, gosh. Shelby, let me go back to you
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for just a moment here. I know that, again, the
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musical journeys that both you, Tony, and you,
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Shelby, have taken are a bit different. I went
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to your website. I want to say it's shelbykmusic
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.com. I wanted to get to know you a little bit.
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From what I read, it wasn't about the music at
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first. You have the choice between that and another
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passion. Can you talk a little bit about that?
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Sure. I have always loved music. From the time
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I was a little kid, I would be singing in the
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car, played a mirage of different instruments
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in middle school, had to make the choice freshman
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year between music and agriculture. And so I
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went that route. I don't think that by not choosing
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music, it was a detriment, but it just was like
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a different trajectory. So went off to college,
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actually. had this thought that maybe I should
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try out for one of the singing contests. So there
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was a lot of singing contests at the time. Went
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home, told my mom, and she said, you're not good
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enough for that. It was just like a flip it comment.
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She doesn't remember doing it. But I didn't sing
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for probably 12 years in front of people until
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2020 COVID. I had a friend who He worked for
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a very large company in Omaha, and they do this
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sales presentation. They needed a lead vocalist.
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I was singing with him at church. I said, sure,
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I'll do it. Caught the bug. We started a 15 -piece
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band. Ridiculous. So fun. But that's when I really
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started spending more time. playing, singing,
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writing songs. I've had the opportunity to meet
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some really incredible musicians in Nashville
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and actually had the opportunity to go there
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and record some songs. And I feel like every
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year, the more I delve into music and just the
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industry itself, I meet incredible people. I
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feel so blessed. Like, honestly, the people that
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I get to surround myself with, not only locally,
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but like national acts, it's out of this world.
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Ian, who is my drummer and also Tony's drummer,
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he's like, my life is dope. I do dope stuff.
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So it's like, I've kind of taken that mantra
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on. Yeah, and I'm loving every minute of it.
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It's so fun. It's got to be fun, you know? Because
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when it becomes work, then it's like, oh, am
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I doing this for the right reason? Yeah. You
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play multiple instruments. Is that what I read
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on your bio? I do, but not very well. So I am
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a vocalist through and through. I have learned
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guitar just so I can play and sing more. I'm
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actually doing an acoustic gig tonight. But if
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you could see my music room, I have a piano behind
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me, mandolin, saxophone, banjo, flute, all the
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hand percussion stuff. I just love it all. I
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throw a harp in there every once in a while,
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pretend like I'm a good harmonica player. but
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vocally that is my top skill, so I should probably
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stay in my lane, honestly. Wow. Do you have a
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favorite instrument aside from vocals? Yeah,
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probably guitar just because it does allow me
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to play more. writing, then I can sing my own
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songs. We're actually going to debut a song at
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Hero Stock, brand new one. It's never been recorded,
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never been played live. So I'm really excited
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about that. So yeah, I would say guitar. Yeah.
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All right. And the two of you, have you, now
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that I know that you have the same drummer, obviously
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you're, you know, your paths must cross more
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frequently than what I was led to believe, which
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is like, I don't even know if they know each
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other. Is that true? I mean, do you guys collaborate
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as well, not only songwriting wise, but also
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musically? We have started to, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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I never really wrote with anybody. I always just
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wrote by myself. And then, you know, Shelby reached
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out a while ago and was like, hey, would you
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ever be open to writing? And Shelby, I don't
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think you've ever really written with a lot of
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people, have you? No. Yeah. And so. We she was
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like, hey, do you want to go right and my guitar
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player also plays guitar or Shelby every now
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and again? And I was like, hey, why don't us
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three just go out? To the where we practice at
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my my parents house at the barn and I was like,
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why don't you go out there and just see what
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happens write some songs and I Had an idea and
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I was like, I think you'd be really good. I you'd
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be a good person to write this song with for
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this idea that I have. And she came in and it's
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kind of cool because when you do write, I've
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never not written with people. I've written with
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a couple of buddies and it always just turns
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into us playing music for about 30 minutes. And
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then we sit there and talk and drink beer. That's
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usually what happens. And so, um, so he was sorely
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let down that day. He's like, no, you're not
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having beer. What the heck? I didn't even drink.
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But so like, you know, when you write with other
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people, you get an idea of what, how they write
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and how their creative process is. And so it's
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cool to see Shelby, you know, how she does it.
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And it kind of gives you ideas of maybe this
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is how I should start doing stuff. Maybe I should,
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you know, write ideas down and do this and do
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that. And so it's cool to sit down and write
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with her. In the song that we, we haven't finished
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it, but we will. Um, but the song that we started
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writing is, I mean, it's pretty good. And I,
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uh, I'm really excited to finish it and see where
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it goes. You don't want to debut that at Herostock,
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do you? Is it too soon? If it's done, maybe,
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I don't know. We'll see. We got to get working,
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bud. I know. You got a busy schedule. I know.
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I, yeah. Yeah. a lot going on, so you have to
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catch me on a good time. Let me talk with you
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about this song that you have written together.
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I'm curious. I mean, I usually ask songwriters,
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do you start with the music first? Do you start
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with the lyrics first? What about this song that
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you guys have been working together on? Who started
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it and then who brought who in? Well, I had an
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idea. It was funny because actually I came up
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with the idea. was listening to something I can't
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remember what it was and I Somebody said something
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in this I think it was a podcast or something
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and they said this line and I was like man That's
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kind of a good idea And then I was like, I don't
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even know how I would start to you know sometimes
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you get an idea like I've sat on songs for like
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two or three years before I've even fully finished
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just because of it's like it's not it's not what
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I wanted you know I've written a whole song the
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whole songs and then deleted them and just been
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like I need to start over that's not any idea
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of how I this song should go so when I came up
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with this idea it was I'm not kidding you I think
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I told you Shelby it was a couple weeks before
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you messaged me and I was like I'd really like
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to get like a female perspective kind of on this
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situation and, you know, how that would sound.
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And then she texted me and was like, Hey, let's
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write together sometime. I'm like, Oh, perfect.
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Well, I have an idea. And so when we got there,
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it was, you know, I'm like a fly by the seat
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of my pants. I am very organized. But when it
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comes to stuff that's like that, I just I'm like,
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all right, if it comes out, it comes out. Shelby
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sat down with a pen and paper and says, what's
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your idea? Where are we going with the song?
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All right. Well, here we go. Let's do it. But
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it was awesome. But yeah, well, and that's the
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thing is, you know, as somebody who I write all
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my songs on my own, I write the music and the
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lyrics and all that stuff. And I have an idea
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of how I want this song to go. It's always it
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was awesome having her come in and saying, OK,
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so, you know, we built that song from how how
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you probably should have because me or her didn't
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really know. I had an idea. And then she was
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like, OK, well, let's how about this? How about
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this? How about this? And so it was nice when
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she came in and did that, because then it created
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an order of how the song should go and how it
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should, you know, sound. And all right, well,
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let's do this first and then let's bring this
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lyric back here. You know, And like our writing
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styles, mine and Shelby's are complete opposite
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of each other. Like I come up with a song title
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and I build it from a song title. And Shelby,
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you explain how you write a song because I don't
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know anybody else that writes it like that. And
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it's awesome. Oh, really? Gosh, that's so wild.
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I am an anomaly, I guess. A little crazy person.
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So the way that I do it, and this just works
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for me, in my phone. You have the notes app.
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And so if I hear an idea or a line, like I'm
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writing a song right now and I got it from In
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the Heat of the Night. Do you guys remember that
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show? Oh, yeah. Old school. Like, yeah, we don't
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have cable at my house. We don't have Wi -Fi
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either. Yeah. That one. OK. All right. Yeah.
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So the line was this guy comes home to his wife
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and. It's there there's like tension and she
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says something about like I thought we were gonna
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talk about closure and he said yeah that happens
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after last call and in my head I was like That
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is a great line for a song. So I'll I pop that
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into my notes and then a lot of times like I'll
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be thinking about a line and then a melody will
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kind of come in and So then in my head, I'm like,
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okay, where do I want this song to go? what viewpoint
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am I writing this from? Like, am I the person
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who wants the closure but can't find it? Am I
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the friend who's trying to help the person get
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the closure? So, and then I have my lyrics and
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then I record it through a voice memo and then
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I think about it and listen to it and then I
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record it again and then again until it's the
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finished product. But then I will say like every
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song that I've wrote performed those that I've
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recorded, like even the songs that I have recorded
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out there in the interwebs, they are different
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now that I play them live. I think songs that
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you write continue to evolve, like as you have
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more experiences and meet more people. And I
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don't know, Tony, maybe you can talk to that
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too. But like the songs that I released last
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year, we play them completely different live
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than they were recorded. And I like them better
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now. because they've like had time to grow and
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mature out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, grow into
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the lyrics. Yeah, music. We do the same thing.
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We will. We come up with a song and then I mean,
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the song that just came out or is coming out,
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I should say. We've been playing that for like
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a year or a year and a half. I don't like to.
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Like this is just me personally like you know
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everybody has their thing me personally I like
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to write a song I bring it to the band we come
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up with the idea we do it on stage we do this
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we do that we'll play it for months before we
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even record it because I Want to make sure that
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when we record it. We don't have a regret about
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Dang it. We should have done this while we're
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playing on stage. You know if it's Luke or Michael
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playing a guitar solo and it sounds awesome or
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somebody does something different on stage this
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show then the next show it's like hey man you
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should you should have done that again because
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that sounded way cooler so i like to play it
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several times over several months um just to
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make sure that when we record it it's how we
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want it you know and you always hear about these
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guys on we wrote this song in the studio and
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then we recorded it that day or whatever and
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that just blows my mind because i'm like i know
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if i write a song and i go to record it I would,
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every time I would hear it or play it on stage,
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I'd be like, oh, we should have done that. So
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yeah, that's, I'm the same way. That's truly,
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this is sounding very organic. You know, it's
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not pre -canned, it's not staged or anything
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like that. It's like based on feel and music
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can feel pretty good. pretty good. The other
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thing I will say, Tom, and I think Tony, you
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kind of alluded to this, is we're surrounded
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by incredible musicians in our bands. And so
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when you bring an idea to them, the way that
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you hear it might not necessarily be the same
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way that your drummer hears it or your guitar
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player hears it or feels it. And like, I always
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This is just how I live my life. Everyone has
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specific strengths, gifts, and talents that they
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were gifted by God that they need to use to bless
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the world. So my guitar player, that's a gift
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that he was given. I want him to give me his
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input because he has that skill that I don't.
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And so by bringing all of it together, it just
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makes that final product, that final song so
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much better. And then you're all a part of it.
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Like it's all of your song. It's not just...
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the songwriters. I think Tony had said earlier,
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it was like, it's not so much about Tony Traynor,
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it's about the band, because all of you come
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together and you collaborate and give input.
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And that's what makes it so special. For sure.
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It goes beyond what one person can do. Right?
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Yeah, I think that's, that's how I think that's
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kind of, it shouldn't be the focus of one person.
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Yeah, it's my name on it, whatever. But also,
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the five people behind me are the reason why
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Yes, we get these awesome shows. We get to open
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for people we get to play these Festivals we
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get to do all this stuff, but it's not just because
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of me. It's because I have amazing musicians
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behind me, you know, like Yeah, like it's It's
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a very big world, but it's such a small group
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of people in our Area in Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa
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that everybody knows everybody when you're a
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musician and it's a small tight -knit group,
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and so, you know, if you need help with something,
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you know, like Shelby said, her guitar player,
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like he, one of my guitar players couldn't make
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my show back in January, and so I asked him,
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and we're good friends, and, you know, Lucas
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Minor is Shelby's guitar player, and he's probably,
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if you ask any local musician who their favorite
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artist is, every single person says Lucas Minor.
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He's a phenomenal musician. He's probably the
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best musician in Nebraska. But yeah, so it's
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like we all help each other out, you know And
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so it's like like Shelby said you don't you know,
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I don't like to get I Obviously gatekeep some
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stuff, but I don't know Yeah, I like to help
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out I like to help out other artists, you know,
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cuz You when we were doing it there wasn't a
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ton of people, you know when we were starting
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out There wasn't a ton of people that were willing
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to help help you it was all every man for himself
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and you know it was talking stuff behind people's
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back and then everything so you know like I've
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I like to help out artists I like to give them
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tips and if people ask I'll give them whatever
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input they you know they they need or they want
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I guess is the best way to put it. Well good
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hey you know you were talking about uh this new
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song that is coming out tonight at midnight before
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we play it for everyone here. Why don't you tell
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us a little bit about it? Yeah, so this song,
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it's a song that a couple years ago I was driving
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through Texas, driving through Waco and I was
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playing a couple shows down there and I don't
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know why I was just, we were driving through
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and the song title Wasted in Waco popped into
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my head. So I jotted it down on my phone, got
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home. Kind of didn't really do much with it for
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the first couple months and then I was like,
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you know I I don't know what I wanted to be about
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well, then I kind of started thinking about it
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and So I kind of wanted it to be like one of
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those I I guess think like Chris LaDue meets
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like Luke combs type of thing, you know that
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old country Western touch type feel with a slide
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guitar And then also you have a little bit of
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that rock So it's about like a cowboy who's in
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Texas rodeo and he goes to the bar and he meets
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a girl from Mexico and she runs off with him
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and they go do all the stuff that they, you know,
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rodeo and drinking and just having fun. And so
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that's kind of how I went with it. And the song
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came out exactly how I wanted it to sound. Shout
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out Michael Rogers, my guitar player who produced
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it. And so, yeah, I'm my it's funny, like My
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brother is my biggest fan, but he's also like
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one of my biggest critics and he will tell me
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straight and I told him or I sent him this song
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and Every update that I would get her, you know
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mix that I would get back I'd send it to him
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and we were out at the cabin like a month or
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two ago and he goes listen I love everything
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.319
you've ever done musically, but this is your
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best work. I just want you to Yeah. So I was
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like, awesome. And so, yeah, I'm so excited about
00:26:17.299 --> 00:26:20.039
this. And we shot a music video for it, which
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turned out awesome. Kyle Byers. Yes. Thank you.
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.500
Yeah, it's awesome. I am so excited for people
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to see it. And so make sure you go listen to
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it, download it, you know, watch the music video.
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.099
It's awesome. Kyle Byers did a phenomenal job.
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So, so, yeah. Well, we happen to have a copy
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for right here. Let's roll the clip! to the sun.
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She always think that damn I should have listened
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to my old man. But she used to sleep in on old
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horse blankets and semi -folded duffel bags.
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But I'd rather be here than anywhere stuck inside
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those old state lines. There's a walrus girl
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at the end of the box been catching this cowboy.
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They're not bad, but I really wanna dance She
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takes my hand and says, let's bow low Pose me
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to the floor as I play the guitar She says, is
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it hot in here? Is it just me? She says, who
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is it? A kiss on my cheek, go get him vague Tony,
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that's awesome. Thanks for sharing that with
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:00.720
us. And I hope you hear from a lot of people.
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Uh, there's tonight and today is the 30th of
00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:08.599
July. So, uh, if you're watching the show, go
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.240
check it out for sure. Shelby, what have you
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.380
got to share with us today? Yeah. So, um, the
00:31:13.380 --> 00:31:16.220
song I'm going to share today is called you left
00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:19.579
me. It's out there on all of the streaming platforms.
00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:23.559
And I wrote this song, so like Tony alluded to
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.980
earlier, sometimes you sit on songs for like
00:31:25.980 --> 00:31:29.839
a year, year and a half. Sometimes songs, I feel
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:31.900
like they download in like a half hour. This
00:31:31.900 --> 00:31:36.059
was one of those songs that I was hit by the
00:31:36.059 --> 00:31:38.460
lyric and the melody. I sat down and I wrote
00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:41.160
the whole song in literally a half hour. So at
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.920
the time when I was working on this song, I was
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.819
going through some brain therapy. It sounds a
00:31:46.819 --> 00:31:51.799
little scary, but What it helped me do is process
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.220
a lot of emotion that I had never allowed myself
00:31:55.220 --> 00:31:59.359
to process Growing up and I will say like I had
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.400
an incredible upbringing. My childhood was awesome.
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.460
I didn't really ever have any traumatic experiences
00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:12.599
but my personality I found that I was very insecure
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.019
in different areas and so some comments would
00:32:16.019 --> 00:32:19.019
be said or things would happen and I would just
00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:22.940
kind of like file them away. And so unpacking
00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:26.819
all of that, this song came out and when I wrote
00:32:26.819 --> 00:32:30.660
it, it was partially my experience but also I
00:32:30.660 --> 00:32:34.339
had a friend who was in the Marines and he went
00:32:34.339 --> 00:32:39.960
over into Iraq and he was one of those who were
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.660
clearing cities. He came home and he said, the
00:32:43.660 --> 00:32:45.579
things that I had to do, the things that I had
00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:48.640
to see, now I'm having children of my own. Like
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.140
this is just not okay. And he was really struggling.
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.680
And so I want to use this song to encourage people
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.980
that if you are having any sort of ideation,
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.900
depression, thoughts like maybe it'd be better
00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:05.559
if I wasn't here. That is of the enemy and that
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:09.200
is not true and please reach out to someone that's
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.900
close to you. If you don't have someone close
00:33:10.900 --> 00:33:14.420
to you, reach out to a clergyman, reach out to
00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:18.779
me, find me on Facebook, whatever. I'm convinced
00:33:18.779 --> 00:33:20.660
that the world is better off with you in it.
00:37:14.750 --> 00:37:18.389
Thank you so much for sharing I was wondering
00:37:18.389 --> 00:37:21.849
who you played that song for first and what their
00:37:21.849 --> 00:37:28.849
reaction was I played it for my husband first
00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:31.610
and the first thing he said was are you okay?
00:37:32.230 --> 00:37:35.429
said yes, I am and then I explained to him why
00:37:35.429 --> 00:37:38.570
I wrote this song and who it was for and he's
00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:42.380
like, wow, that's that's really deep but But
00:37:42.380 --> 00:37:45.539
like I said, I just hope that it helps people
00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.820
understand if you are in that situation, if you're
00:37:48.820 --> 00:37:51.960
having those thoughts, a lot of people have been.
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.239
Don't be afraid to reach out. There used to be
00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:00.059
more of a stigma about it, but this world is
00:38:00.059 --> 00:38:02.460
better off with you in it. So please stick around.
00:38:03.460 --> 00:38:07.559
Great message. All right. Hey, let's transition
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.960
to something that I think you're both going to
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.780
be familiar with, and that is the upcoming Hero
00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:15.679
Stock Music Festival and the resource fair itself.
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.320
Obviously, you were chosen to be on the main
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.800
stage, but let's talk a little bit about being
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.039
a part of Hero Stock. And Tony, I'll start with
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.000
you. I mean, first off, I love Jason Steiner.
00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:35.630
He's become a good friend. We actually talk all
00:38:35.630 --> 00:38:40.389
the time but honestly when I was there last year
00:38:40.389 --> 00:38:47.050
it was I mean everybody was so friendly I'm trying
00:38:47.050 --> 00:38:50.710
to find like the right word to say but I guess
00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:52.530
that what it comes down to is you're not only
00:38:52.530 --> 00:38:54.250
like having a good time you're not only seeing
00:38:54.250 --> 00:38:57.090
live music you're not only supporting like local
00:38:57.090 --> 00:39:00.170
businesses and local musicians but you're also
00:39:00.170 --> 00:39:02.289
supporting veterans at the same time So it's
00:39:02.289 --> 00:39:06.030
like this one big conglomerate thing that is,
00:39:06.030 --> 00:39:08.429
you know, what you want when it comes to like
00:39:08.429 --> 00:39:12.190
a music festival wrapped up into one is the best
00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:17.489
way to put it. And this particular this year,
00:39:18.190 --> 00:39:22.230
not only do we have Saturday afternoon and into
00:39:22.230 --> 00:39:26.329
the evening, but there's also the pre show or
00:39:26.329 --> 00:39:29.110
the the pre party itself on Friday night, which
00:39:29.110 --> 00:39:32.590
is It's the first time that I've heard about
00:39:32.590 --> 00:39:38.349
medieval combat. Same? Same? I've heard that
00:39:38.349 --> 00:39:41.469
that's been done at other venues, Erin. Are you
00:39:41.469 --> 00:39:43.190
coming, Tom? Or how are you going to get your
00:39:43.190 --> 00:39:46.829
sword here from California? Oh, no, no, no. I
00:39:46.829 --> 00:39:49.190
will be flying out there. I'll be there on Thursday
00:39:49.190 --> 00:39:52.760
night for the entire weekend's festivities. But
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.179
I will be observing for sure. I may be reporting.
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:57.559
I may have my mobile microphone and all that
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:01.119
stuff. There you go. But yeah. We'll play by
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:06.360
play. That would be so good. That'll be us. Both
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:07.940
me and Matt will be sitting in the booth and
00:40:07.940 --> 00:40:12.000
then just kind of calling as it happens. But
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.380
yeah, I guess it's going to be over two days.
00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:20.739
And Tony, I remember that when I was first asked
00:40:21.050 --> 00:40:24.710
um to to really explain what hero stock is about
00:40:24.710 --> 00:40:27.030
i just gave them my standard answer which is
00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:29.699
basically Why don't you talk to Jason Steiner
00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:31.579
about it? He's got the best answer for it, which
00:40:31.579 --> 00:40:35.260
is being, you just got to show up. Yeah. So I
00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:38.639
can appreciate it being hard to describe and
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.000
coming up with the right words, but I remember
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:45.300
the music, you were a part of the performances.
00:40:45.699 --> 00:40:49.079
There were some great performances, yours included
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.960
being high energy. Thank you. Thank you. And
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.960
I know that you were... You were working through
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.699
the set list itself and talking about how you
00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:01.780
blend the country sound with rock sound, your
00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:04.380
influences, and it really came through. It was
00:41:04.380 --> 00:41:06.699
great to see you, and it's going to be great
00:41:06.699 --> 00:41:08.639
to see you come back again this year, and this
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.539
time with some new music, it sounds like. So
00:41:11.539 --> 00:41:13.880
Shelby, let me ask you, what are you looking
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.260
forward to? This is going to be your first Hero
00:41:15.260 --> 00:41:17.460
Stock, I believe, right? Is there something that
00:41:17.460 --> 00:41:20.599
you're looking forward to coming out to Ashland
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.110
for Hero Stock 26? Yeah, you know, I think the
00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:27.989
main thing is just being part of the event and
00:41:27.989 --> 00:41:30.469
the fact that it's all about getting resources
00:41:30.469 --> 00:41:34.349
to the veterans that need it. So I always say
00:41:34.349 --> 00:41:36.690
when I'm on stage, the only reason that we get
00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:38.849
to be up here performing is because there are
00:41:38.849 --> 00:41:42.369
people who literally sacrifice. They enlist,
00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:45.530
they serve our communities. Some of them go off
00:41:45.530 --> 00:41:49.210
to war, some of them don't come back. I am so
00:41:49.210 --> 00:41:51.599
grateful. that there are people out there that
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.320
do that. And so it's just an honor to be a part
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.940
of this event and help spread the word of what
00:41:58.940 --> 00:42:02.139
hero stock is, what it does for people, and trying
00:42:02.139 --> 00:42:05.559
to get those resources to those individuals that
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:11.099
need it. My band is their top notch. Literally
00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:13.300
you could put any singer in front of them and
00:42:13.300 --> 00:42:14.920
they would bring the house down So I just am
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.239
so blessed to have them with me on stage. So
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.199
we are the first band Shelby Kay and the high
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.760
-class hillbillies And it's gonna be a fun show.
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.360
It's a little bit everything like you said Americana
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:30.840
bluegrass Rock country those gospel hymns coming
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.739
in. It's gonna be a good time. Nice nice Well,
00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:38.300
I gotta tell you man. I'm looking forward to
00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:41.679
both of your bands Do both of you have that outstanding
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.360
invitation for the annual acoustic guitar jam
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.519
featuring all of the bands and the musicians?
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.019
Make sure, you know, we'd love to have you be
00:42:50.019 --> 00:42:52.000
a part of that as well too, as we've done for
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.019
the last, I think the last three years we've
00:42:54.019 --> 00:42:58.539
had that. So anyway, I've got one set of questions
00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:01.760
for you before we call it a day. It's the lightning
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.579
round and I'm going to go ahead and ask each
00:43:05.579 --> 00:43:07.860
of you. You know, what's the first thing that
00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:10.699
comes to your mind? Tony, I'll start with you.
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:19.579
Favorite venue you've ever played? Oh, tough
00:43:19.579 --> 00:43:23.800
question. Lightning round. Come on. Sorry, sorry.
00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:29.500
I have OK, I have two. That's all right. The
00:43:29.500 --> 00:43:34.239
first one is we played a sold out show. for almost
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.980
like 2 ,000 people with Scotty McCurry at the
00:43:36.980 --> 00:43:40.739
Admiral Theater in Omaha, which was pretty cool.
00:43:43.260 --> 00:43:48.900
How many people do you recall like 1700 or 618?
00:43:49.059 --> 00:43:51.920
I can't remember something like that. But yeah,
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:58.639
it was packed. Man, I know there's a story in
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.280
there too. What do you what do you see when you
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.849
see 1700 people before? What's the first thing
00:44:03.849 --> 00:44:06.170
that comes to mind? That's what my question is.
00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:13.550
I can't curse on here, so I'll just say. OK,
00:44:13.829 --> 00:44:17.269
we got my God. Yeah, when they shut the lights
00:44:17.269 --> 00:44:19.769
off and we walked on stage, everybody started
00:44:19.769 --> 00:44:21.809
cheering it. Literally the sound wave hit you
00:44:21.809 --> 00:44:23.949
in my chest and I was like, oh man. And then
00:44:23.949 --> 00:44:26.190
I came out and drop D and I wasn't supposed to
00:44:26.190 --> 00:44:28.969
be and I had to retune my guitar in front of.
00:44:29.150 --> 00:44:31.730
Oh, you don't just like play the top five strings,
00:44:31.750 --> 00:44:35.929
just like avoid the D string. I know I've done
00:44:35.929 --> 00:44:39.050
that before too. Cool. All right. And the other
00:44:39.050 --> 00:44:42.269
one? Do you have another? Just because this is
00:44:42.269 --> 00:44:44.150
one of the coolest things I've ever seen. We
00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:48.269
played this street dance down in Erie, Kansas
00:44:48.269 --> 00:44:53.349
a couple summers ago. It's the longest running
00:44:53.349 --> 00:44:56.500
town celebration in America. And it's called
00:44:56.500 --> 00:45:02.760
old soldiers in sailors days. Um, and it's, uh,
00:45:02.980 --> 00:45:07.780
back when in 1865 ish, uh, when all the soldiers
00:45:07.780 --> 00:45:10.360
came back from the civil war to Erie, Kansas,
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.500
um, they had a big town celebration and the only
00:45:13.500 --> 00:45:16.940
thing they had to cook for that many people was
00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:20.239
beans. So they cook 1200, uh, or kettle pots
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.199
and eat beans. And there was, I mean, I think
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.940
there was like If I had to guess there's probably
00:45:25.940 --> 00:45:29.239
about two to three thousand people there but
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.460
they shut off all of Main Street and Yeah, you
00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:34.639
go through and eat beans, but the people that
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.920
have played this town festival is like The Kentucky
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:44.119
headhunters Tim McGraw Sarah Evans and a bunch
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:46.219
of other people and so it was cool to be a part
00:45:46.219 --> 00:45:51.230
of that thing that has you know been going on
00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.389
for so long and it benefits. They also donated
00:45:53.389 --> 00:45:56.989
a bunch of money to veterans and the people that
00:45:56.989 --> 00:46:00.650
show up, the town was cool and awesome. And yeah,
00:46:00.650 --> 00:46:02.269
so that was just cool. And that always sticks
00:46:02.269 --> 00:46:03.750
with me. I don't know why, but I just thought
00:46:03.750 --> 00:46:06.210
it was awesome. Did you get to meet any of the
00:46:06.210 --> 00:46:08.309
big names? Did you get to shake their hand or
00:46:08.309 --> 00:46:11.130
anything? No, this was like, we played that year,
00:46:11.250 --> 00:46:14.869
but in the years past, this was like Tim McGraw
00:46:14.869 --> 00:46:19.119
played it before he became Tim McGraw. Okay.
00:46:19.619 --> 00:46:22.079
But I think the burning question here that I
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.159
need to ask is, did you have the beans? I didn't
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:29.659
have any. I didn't have any. I don't know why
00:46:29.659 --> 00:46:32.039
they took us on a little golf or like a side
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.599
by side and gave us a tour of everything. And
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.480
he was like, yeah, the beans aren't done yet.
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.400
And I was like, all right. And I never went back
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.659
and got it. You have to go back. My question,
00:46:41.699 --> 00:46:44.079
Tony, is what was it like playing with that many
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.300
horn players out in the audience? Because, you
00:46:47.300 --> 00:46:53.579
know, beans. Yeah. Maybe another story, another
00:46:53.579 --> 00:46:56.219
time. Because we've got a question for Shelby.
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.300
Shelby, you're next. The dream artist to share
00:46:59.300 --> 00:47:08.800
a stage with. Oh, man. Now I'm like, Tony, taking
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:14.079
my time thinking. Gosh, it would probably have
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:21.150
to be. Lainey Wilson or Ella Langley I would
00:47:21.150 --> 00:47:24.650
say. Do you think you'd do a duet or do you think
00:47:24.650 --> 00:47:27.809
it would be kind of like uh I don't know sharing
00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:30.809
the stage kind of a thing? Oh man whatever they'd
00:47:30.809 --> 00:47:34.929
allow me to do I think. You know, the thing that
00:47:34.929 --> 00:47:37.670
I, I love them for different reasons. So Lainey
00:47:37.670 --> 00:47:41.809
Wilson, what I love is her showmanship, like
00:47:41.809 --> 00:47:44.789
the way that she engages with the crowd, her
00:47:44.789 --> 00:47:49.530
entire production out of this world. Ella Langley,
00:47:49.849 --> 00:47:52.559
what I love about her is she has said, I will
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.460
never play with backing tracks. I will never
00:47:54.460 --> 00:47:57.000
have gates. It's going to be a live performance.
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.460
If I'm off that day, I'm off that day. But they
00:47:59.460 --> 00:48:01.360
paid a ticket to hear a live singer and that's
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.159
what I'm going to do. I just think that's so
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:07.659
cool. So yeah, either of them would be that'd
00:48:07.659 --> 00:48:11.920
be super, super cool. Well, real good. Tony song
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:17.820
you wish you'd written. Come in with the tough
00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:21.820
ones today, Tom. So wrong answer, by the way.
00:48:29.019 --> 00:48:31.539
Probably much too young to be this damn old by
00:48:31.539 --> 00:48:35.980
Garth Brooks. Can you hum a few bars for us?
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:42.000
Oh no, never mind. I don't want to get hit with
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.099
a lawsuit or copyright. Yeah, this will get taken
00:48:46.099 --> 00:48:49.739
down if I do that. Real good. What's the story
00:48:49.739 --> 00:48:53.780
behind it though? Uh, behind the song. Yeah.
00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:56.300
I mean, why, why is that is the one that you
00:48:56.300 --> 00:48:59.320
wish you'd written? Yeah. Well, it's kind of
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:00.639
the first one that popped into mind, but for
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.719
me, it's like one of my top 10 favorite songs,
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.599
mostly just like nostalgia wise. Like when you
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.320
were in the car, when I was a little kid, you
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.219
know, Garth would pop on and it's just, there's
00:49:12.219 --> 00:49:14.619
like, you know, those songs that the first chord
00:49:14.619 --> 00:49:17.570
you hear the first, like when he plays that chord
00:49:17.570 --> 00:49:18.949
progression through the first time. And then
00:49:18.949 --> 00:49:21.849
all of a sudden the fiddle comes in with a, and
00:49:21.849 --> 00:49:24.429
I don't know why it just, I thought it's a great
00:49:24.429 --> 00:49:27.449
song and the lyrics are so good. Annie mentions
00:49:27.449 --> 00:49:31.570
Chris LaDue, which is a plus in my book. But
00:49:31.570 --> 00:49:33.809
yeah, it's just, I don't know. I just really
00:49:33.809 --> 00:49:36.090
liked that song. I think it's very well written.
00:49:37.190 --> 00:49:41.829
And I always think it's, I always think it's
00:49:41.829 --> 00:49:44.530
fascinating when like, like George Strait has
00:49:44.530 --> 00:49:47.929
wrote like two of his songs that out of the thousands
00:49:47.929 --> 00:49:51.269
he's put out, Garth Brooks, that was the first,
00:49:51.469 --> 00:49:55.969
that was the only song when he came in Nashville
00:49:55.969 --> 00:49:59.469
that he wrote. And so, and then after that, he
00:49:59.469 --> 00:50:01.409
started having songwriters. And it's always amazed
00:50:01.409 --> 00:50:03.550
me that people like Garth Brooks that wrote much
00:50:03.550 --> 00:50:06.829
too young stopped writing their songs by themselves.
00:50:06.829 --> 00:50:08.809
And they have these songwriters that come in.
00:50:08.829 --> 00:50:10.230
It's like, why don't you keep writing and keep
00:50:10.230 --> 00:50:13.159
doing that type of thing. And there are, I mean,
00:50:13.340 --> 00:50:14.780
it's becoming more of a thing now we're writing
00:50:14.780 --> 00:50:17.559
like Ella Langley and Laney Wilson. They, you
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.219
know, they still have songwriters, but it's just,
00:50:19.380 --> 00:50:22.960
I like what a, I think Riley Green is one of
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.880
the most underrated songwriters out there right
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.239
now. He writes all of his own songs and a lot
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.360
of them on his own. Like to me, another one would
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.739
be, Grandpa's Never Died. I think that's probably
00:50:33.739 --> 00:50:35.320
one of the most well -written songs in the last
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:40.050
10 years. So yeah. All right. All right. Okay,
00:50:40.230 --> 00:50:42.409
Shelby, we've got one more question for you.
00:50:42.929 --> 00:50:52.690
Your favorite place to write. Oh, man. It hits
00:50:52.690 --> 00:50:54.789
me at different times, so I don't know that there's
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like a favorite place. I will tell you. I am
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able to write the most when I cut out all the
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distractions, so. Like, no phone, no accessing
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the internet, no music in the background. My
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music room is pretty cool, so I've had to choose
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a space that would probably be the space. But
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I'm going to go with where the Holy Spirit is
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anointing and I have a good friend there with
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me. That's going to be my answer. Sounds good.
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I want to thank you both for spending a little
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time with me and Hero Stock Nation and telling
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us a little bit about yourselves and what it
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is that your music is about, where your head
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is at with songwriting and just your experiences.
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It's something that I'm really looking forward
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to. It's just a couple of weeks away now. Herostock
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.org actually has a clock, a countdown clock
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as to when the festival starts. But I'm looking
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forward to you both taking the stage, and maybe
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you'll both share that song that you were talking
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about. I want to go ahead and ask you for any
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closing thoughts to the Herostock Nation crowd
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before we take off. Tony, why don't you go ahead
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and start? Get your tickets. Come support. It's
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a great time. Come drink a beer with us. That's
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good. That bring lyrics because they're going
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to be playing instrumentals. Shelby, what about
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you? Any closing thoughts? I just want to say
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thank you to everyone that has organized the
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Hero Stock event and been a part of putting it
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on. Thank you for the honor of being a part of
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it. For those attending, make sure you get your
00:52:52.670 --> 00:52:56.070
tickets early. I know that definitely puts the
00:52:56.070 --> 00:52:58.429
organizers at ease the more tickets that are
00:52:58.429 --> 00:53:03.090
sold, but just come with an open heart, open
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mind and enjoy the pre -party on Friday night
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and then come ready to rock on Saturday because
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we're going to bring it. Oh, awesome. All right,
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you too. Calling all beard lovers, enter the
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Big Beautiful Badass Beard Battle. It is presented
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by Doc Goodbeard. Support Harrowstock 2026 this
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August. Join us in Ashland. Heroes Stock August
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15th at Country Drive Golf Course in Ashland.
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Featuring Blackhawk, the Trainer Band, Briella
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.079
Steiner and the Wicked Ones, Shelby Kay and the
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High Class Hillbillies, and more. This is a day
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dedicated to community and honoring heroes. Free
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entry for military, veterans, first responders,
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and Gold Star families. Bring your friends and
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lawn chairs. See more than 75 vendors and enjoy
00:53:48.019 --> 00:53:51.860
the music. Tickets and info at heroesstock .org.
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To add to the pre -party itself, $10 at the door
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gets you in. If you're a veteran, first responder,
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Gold Star family member, there's no cost to you.
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There are supposed to be over 75 resource booths.
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We didn't really talk too much about that, but
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we also got word that BravoZulu is coming back.
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They're going to be diving from the sky. We've
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got so many great things planned for all ages.
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Hero Stock is more than just a music festival.
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It's a weekend that brings together these individuals,
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.300
our heroes, veterans, first responders, families.
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Music is at the heart of it all. And we hope
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that you'll connect with the people that are
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.440
there. It happens. It's just naturally occurring
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.460
kind of a thing. When you show up, it's kind
00:54:45.460 --> 00:54:47.099
of like, all of a sudden you feel like, wow,
00:54:47.099 --> 00:54:49.579
this is... This is really relaxing. It's really
00:54:49.579 --> 00:54:54.539
cool. There's also the big, beautiful, badass
00:54:54.539 --> 00:54:57.679
beard competition. And it's open to everyone.
00:54:57.780 --> 00:55:00.139
Yes, I do mean everyone So if you have a beard
00:55:00.139 --> 00:55:03.079
or if you don't have a beard, uh, check out top
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:05.599
good beards Contest and of course the headline
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.219
act is is black hawk. You can get everything
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over at herostock .org Thanks again for hanging
00:55:12.980 --> 00:55:15.940
in there with me you guys and for those out in
00:55:15.940 --> 00:55:18.940
the hero stock nation podcast land We'll see
00:55:18.940 --> 00:55:21.940
you next time matt jones will be with me on stage
00:55:21.940 --> 00:55:24.519
when we see you all at hero stock over at the
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.900
um The roundtable live which is the writers round
00:55:28.900 --> 00:55:31.440
and we'll hope to see you there So until then
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Tom Lamar signing off from the roundtable where
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heroes talk We'll see you next time everyone
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Wasn't supposed to be nothing I'd call home to
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tell my mama We're working on college and I'm
00:55:58.409 --> 00:56:03.730
picking this guitar We fell for each other one
00:56:03.730 --> 00:56:13.510
night at that bar Maybe we took it too far Sometimes
00:56:13.510 --> 00:56:19.050
forever ain't always meant to be Kinda like that
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summer, oh you and me Maybe together There ain't
00:56:26.250 --> 00:56:30.789
nothing but a dream A love that's meant for leaving,
00:56:31.250 --> 00:56:38.750
it's bittersweet Like those fall time leaves
00:56:38.750 --> 00:56:53.329
I couldn't help but say that I want you to stay
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But we both know it doesn't matter anyways Cause
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you're all for better when I'm stuck in this
00:57:03.780 --> 00:57:08.719
town You're meant for flying and I'm meant to
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:17.500
stick around We're both feet on the ground Sometimes
00:57:17.500 --> 00:57:22.840
forever ain't always meant to be Kinda like that
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:32.179
summer Maybe together ain't nothing but a dream
00:57:32.179 --> 00:57:39.460
A lost man for leaving is bittersweet I like
00:57:39.460 --> 00:57:46.599
those fall time leaves I like those fall time
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God only knows maybe you'll come back someday
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:23.119
Sometimes forever ain't always meant to be Kind
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:30.780
of like that summer, oh you and me Maybe together
00:58:30.780 --> 00:58:35.380
ain't nothing but a dream A love is meant for
00:58:35.380 --> 00:58:43.159
leaving, it's bittersweet Like those fall time
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leaves Like those fall time