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What's up, Hero Stock Nation? Welcome back to
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the Roundtable Where Heroes Talk. I'm Tom Lamogg,
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and today we've got a special program. Over the
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next hour, we're introducing the four songwriters
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who will be taking the stage for the inaugural
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The Roundtable Live at Hero Stock 26 in Ashland,
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Nebraska. Throughout today's program, you're
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going to meet Matthew Jones, Anthony Segovia,
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Derek Thompson, and DJ Bridwell. You'll hear
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the stories behind their music, enjoy live acoustic
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performances, and get a preview of what you can
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expect when these four talented artists come
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together this August. So let's get started. First
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of all, joining me are the two guys you've heard
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on the roundtable before. Matthew Jones, who
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has been my co -host for more than 30 episodes.
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He's an award -winning songwriter, a combat veteran,
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and someone who's become a very good friend of
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mine. Anthony Segovia is a United States Marine
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Corps veteran and one of Nebraska's emerging
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country artists. His music is rooted in faith,
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family, and experiences that have shaped his
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life. Gentlemen, welcome back. How are you? Oh,
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I think you're getting tired of seeing me. It's
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always good to see my friend Anthony. It's good
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to see you as well, too I know we it's been a
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few months since our last conversation at the
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roundtable. How are you doing? You doing good?
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Yes, sir Actually, I think it's been exactly
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six months. So it's about time we caught up and
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everything. So I'm doing very well. Yeah That's
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let's go ahead and start with you You know you
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started in combat in the US Army and if you can't
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just look back for a moment And how that experience
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influenced the person that you have become, the
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songwriter that you are. Well, I mean, you know,
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I'd never wanted to, you know, go and be a combat,
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you know, combat guy, a combat veteran in any
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shape or form. I just wanted to take care of
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my family. And one of the things that kind of
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stuck with me throughout my military career was
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pain is inevitable and suffering is optional.
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So that's what stuck with me, you know, I may
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I may experience pain But this too shall pass
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and the sun still shines tomorrow. So, you know,
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that's that's how I try to I try to keep pursuing
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my music, you know Yeah, and you've come a long
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way since then and you know when when you think
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of all of the experiences that you have From
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the stories that you tell in your music to even
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just making an appearance here at the roundtable
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Has there been a moment in time in your life
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when you stopped and you thought man There's
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a song in this and when it happened what happened
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Well, so a while back maybe two years ago I had
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an idea for a song and it was just one of those
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kind of hey, you know I'm new here, you know,
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and I don't know anybody and and I got to figure
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out a way to kind of get involved in the community,
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find out what there is to do. So an idea for
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a song kind of came in and it's just a song about
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kind of connecting with people that are in your
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life and developing a strong network of like
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-minded people who are caring and compassionate,
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as you would want to be yourself. All right.
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Anthony, it's your turn. You picked up your guitar
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as a teenager the first time, or maybe it was
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in the early years, and you stepped away from
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it while you were serving in the Marine Corps,
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as I recall from our interview. Eventually, you
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found your way back to it. What brought you back
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to the music? I think it was just kind of what
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going on in life. I needed a way to kind of get
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some stuff out. um and my mind was not in a good
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place so instead of just dwelling on it and kind
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of resulting to self -medication I started picking
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up the guitar because it's something I enjoyed
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and uh about five years now since I started picking
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it up again I'm in a better place for it so.
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So I recall in the conversation you know you
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went from Hawaii to Maine and now of course you're
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in Nebraska um Have any of those places had a
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profound influence in your songwriting? Definitely
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Maine. And I mean, I lived in the Midwest a lot,
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Pennsylvania, which Western PA, so I'd consider
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the Midwest, Missouri and now Nebraska about
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I spent about 10, 11 years of my life there.
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So that kind of. Form it my formative adult years
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I guess you could say was spent in those areas
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and say I'd say a lot of inspiration from Midwest
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but also You know my upbringing in Maine and
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more so the music of my upbringing than anything.
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So mmm and after listening to your music There's
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a blend in in their traditional country, maybe
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some modern influences But that's my perspective.
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How would you describe your sound to someone
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hearing you for the first time? Well, I'd say
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like emo country that's really kind of where
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I put myself Again, just influences of my childhood
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But also I you know, we talked about last time
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I can't write a happy song to save my life and
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it's not that I'm unhappy It's just I think that's
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just one emotion that comes out when I write
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my music But like some of the things that I would
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relate to is that kind of like Triocra revival
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is kind of big right now. They kind of have that
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Midwestern feel to it Midwestern emo feel to
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it and growing up with the influences I had in
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high school and middle school with that kind
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of Hard rock a punk rock metal music that kind
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of I think has been more so seeping in and the
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one thing that has Changed the last six months
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is I'm not trying to necessarily write to a genre,
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I'm just writing music. And so it's kind of transitioned
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from that traditional country where my earlier
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songs were kind of more folky Americana to this
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more minor chord music with a little bit more
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of that rock influence, which has done me very
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well, so. That's your style. I know the three
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of us talked about this with Matt about can't
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write a, you know, Happy song to say right, right?
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Right. It'll come it'll come in time. I mean
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the Obviously the conditions have to be right,
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right? Maybe it heroes stuck maybe last question
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for you What do you hope people take away after
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hearing one of your songs? Well, Matt really
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hit on the head, you know Lifestyle politics
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belief system religion doesn't matter We're all
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have a lot more in common and you know a lot
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of what we write about It's you know, it's relatable.
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It's something that you may have gone through
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one way or another or maybe a friend has a family
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member and Although you may have not dwelled
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in that place it was a moment in time and the
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one thing that you know, I talked to my mom about
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it yesterday not to make it a long story, but
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she asked, you know why I write such depressing
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music and I was like because You don't know what
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that person might be feeling at that time and
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that might just be what they need to hear Maybe
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that's just when I need to get off my chest.
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Even though I don't feel that way. It's just
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something that's inside that needs to you know
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Get out and have some space to breathe. So Absolutely.
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All right chance time to break out those guitars
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Matt You got a song for us and maybe give us
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a quick a quick story behind So this is this
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is the water hole. This is that song I just talked
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about that me and Anthony reference where we
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got more in common than we do different so Just
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a nice little song, I hope you enjoy it. You
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see I ain't got no friends And I don't know when
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the day ends Just where I can go Well just sit
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back in the seat And kick up your feet There
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ain't no fence lines Down at the water hole And
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if you ever need me Come on down to where the
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good Lord saved me Cause there's plenty of room
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for y 'all And we can, yeah we can Just sit back
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and you'll see Alright, let's go ahead and continue
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our conversation with Matthew Jones and with
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Anthony Segovia. Both will be appearing. at the
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roundtable live and that's going to be at hero
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stock 26 on august 15th uh the show's gonna start
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about 3 p .m but the gates open at twos this
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is open to both of you both of you can answer
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this question where do your best song ideas usually
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come from oh man you want to go first or should
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i uh I would say anywhere and everywhere. Go
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ahead, go ahead. Yeah. Anywhere and everywhere.
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You know, someone says something funny at work
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and you're like, that's a song title. Or, you
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know, you're mowing the yard and you're kind
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of, you know, humming a beat, you know, just,
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you know, whatever. And something comes in. Other
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times I listen to Anthony's music and it gives
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me an idea for something. So, you know, like
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other people as well. So, what do you think,
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man? I think it's, I mean, I agree. It's definitely
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something that always happens when you're not
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available, able to get a guitar. Right. And so
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you're trying to like remember it. And by the
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time you get to it, it's, it's completely evolved
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into something different and it's not what you
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wanted. And, but I would say a lot of it comes
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from, um, like sometimes just like Matt was saying
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a phrase. just something comes out and you hear
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it whether it's a tv radio uh talking to a friend
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another song you're like huh and then that's
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when you get the guitar and that's when you kind
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of start noodling around and kind of seeing what
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you can come out of it but yeah yeah yeah so
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there are no real hard and fast rules it just
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no no yeah that's why it's art yeah all right
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do whatever you want Yeah, no rules. Who needs
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rules? Next question. Is there one song you've
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written that means more to you today than when
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you first wrote it? Okay, you go first. Ah, damn.
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I think the song I'll be playing today actually
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is really kind of embodied, kind of... I'm not
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gonna give too much of it away, but it's when
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I wrote it it meant a lot and the more I've played
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it It's just kind of like okay, like it's just
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about kind of letting go of a situation and you
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kind of have you have something that's holding
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you to it and you finally Decide to hey, I'm
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moving on from this And yeah, so I'd say the
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more I've played it even though I'm in a better
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place and when I wrote it It still just kind
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of reminds you like hey, sometimes you just got
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to let go of what's going on And even though
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you don't want to and there's some symbolism
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behind it, but yeah Yeah, I agree. There's a
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one of the first songs I ever wrote was a song
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called I pray and I wrote it in Afghanistan and
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it was You know just from stories that you hear,
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you know the real trauma side of being in combat
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So I tried to I tried to do what I call track
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music, like it's trauma, recovery, and it's Christ.
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You know, there's the God element that's in it
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everywhere, everywhere we are. And so I just
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try to help people navigate that. But the song,
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I Pray, paints a very, just a very emotional
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picture of, you know, absence from family. It's
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still hard to play today. But I think it, because
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it's hard to play, it makes me love it more.
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So yeah, all right. Here's the last question
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and then Anthony we're gonna give you the microphone
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have you ever finished a song and Immediately
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knew it was something special Well, it's funny
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every single song like oh that's it that's the
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one And then like yeah, you play it again. You're
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like I think that the ones I've kept I feel like
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okay. There's a reason for it So I mean I I know
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Matt and you even knew Tom I mean being a musician
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you write a lot, you know There's a lot in the
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tank that we never will see the light of day
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and the ones that do it's usually for a reason
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So yeah like that. Yeah Mr. Jones I thought I
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already answered. I'm sorry. You did. I did.
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I don't think you did. No, you didn't. No. OK,
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I'm sorry. Have you ever finished? I'm so involved
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in his answer that I was just like, man, he's
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such a cool dude, you know? No, no, no. What
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was the question again? He's actually saying,
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I can write a song about that. Yeah, right? I'm
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thinking it out right now. Let me give you the
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question one more time. Yeah. Have you ever finished
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a song and immediately knew it was something
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special? Yeah. Yeah, I finished one just recently
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and it's amazing But I can't reproduce it like
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I for some reason like it sounds great, but playing
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it. I Don't know it's like my brain got stuck
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on stupid so I love it This is like a writing
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it's a song. I haven't debuted to anybody. So
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it's brand new. It'll come out soon but I'm trying
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some different things and Like I really I really
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really like this song. So I'm excited to hear
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it. Yeah. Yeah I mean it sounds like There are
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standards that are involved which is basically
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if it doesn't meet my expectation that I'm not
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gonna perform it I'm not gonna share it until
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I'm ready night. I appreciate that Yeah, it's
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more of a recording piece and I'm working on
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the performative side of it Like how can I take
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this and make it doable? You know on stage like
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I'd love to share it, but I'm doing weird stuff.
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So it's like yeah Yeah, that's an interesting
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perspective for sure because I I have come across
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that myself It's like I am playing these fancy
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riffs. It's like how do I sing and play it at
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the same time? And it's like You don't. Another
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guitar player or a singer. All right, gents.
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All right. Well, listen, we're done with that
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round of questions. It's now time to bring Mr.
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Segovia to the microphone. And what song do you
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have for us? And maybe tell us a little bit about
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it. It's called My Way. I wrote it about a month
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ago. Just kind of realizing you're in some stuff
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that you, you know, acknowledging where you're
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at. and realizing you got to get out of it and
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you got to find your way out of it so Living
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and learning got me on a spiral I can't change
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I found myself loving on the pain that I just
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can't shake. And it seems to me that all I say
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is I'll get better one day. Can't seem to hide
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from all the lies written all over my face. I
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gotta get through. I gotta see my way. I need
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to find out I need to fix my own gotta see Nicely
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done, sir. Bro, what? Come on, man. That was
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awesome. Thank you. I'm over here just thinking
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like, yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of
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catchy ones. I've got some song ideas coming.
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There you go. You're welcome. I knew it. I knew
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it was happening. All right. On to the lightning
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round, gentlemen. Matthew, your first acoustic
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and electric. Acoustic. All right. Anthony, favorite
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guitar? Favorite guitar? D6 Martin D16 nice whoo
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favorite songwriter Matt Eric Clapton surprise
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surprise all right morning writer or a late -night
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writer Anthony late night I'm not a morning person
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one song you never get tired of playing Matt
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oh what it's like by whitey Ford dream venue
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you dream venue to play Anthony Pinnacle Bank
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Arena in Lincoln. I told myself that I'd sell
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it out one day and that's my goal. Yeah, that's
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awesome All excellent responses gentlemen, let's
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on to the music Matt. It's your call. What are
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you gonna play? And what's it about? Okay, so
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I have a song I wrote called a sideline, but
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I then I re retitled it. It's called mangy dog
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we're so involved with the world around us and
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the things that we have that we tend to to walk
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past and not observe those who have less than
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us. So this is a song about those who sacrifice
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and inevitably it goes unseen. So this is Mangy
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Dog. Started way back long ago on a day when
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it all began Standing shoulder to shoulder with
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my brothers across the land Fighting back tyranny
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wherever we were told Now we're haunted by nightmares
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that just won't let us go Say wait a minute man
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Another day, another night, another year down
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the road Another battle with the devil as he
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wrestles for my soul There's so much for the
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story of how freedom's price was paid look up
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to the heavens and I hope he knows my name say
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wait a minute mister can you spare some change
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for me I'm just a broken down mangy dog with
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war stuck in my teeth I'm just another broken
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mangy dog with war stuck in my teeth I'm just
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a broken down mangy dog Hey, man, is your music
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posted anywhere where people can find it? Yeah,
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so I don't have Spotify, but I have tick -tock
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you can look up Matthew's anthem on tick -tock
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you can look up on Instagram and on YouTube so
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I haven't pulled the trigger and committed the
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Spotify because I don't think they pay artists
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enough so I do what's right Gotta stand behind
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your principles. All right, Anthony. You're up.
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What song you got and maybe you can tell us a
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little bit about it Yeah, so this one's called
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Lucky. Basically, the song I was kind of alluding
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to earlier was I wrote this song about kind of
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a relationship that had ended and I kind of held
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on to the lucky cigarette that they left and
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I kind of just left it there because I was like,
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well, I'm not ready yet to let go of that part.
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And then I finally wrote this song and I was
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like, it's about time. So I smoked that thing
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and let it go. So this song is called Lucky.
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The hell of a fall got me thinking this was forever
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That cold coming in, yeah, you were quick on
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leaving Just one thing you left me before you
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walked out the door simple reminder got me hoping
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for more. I'll smoke And that was wonderful.
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Hey, man. Thank you for sharing your music and
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the stories giving us a little bit of insight
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as to who you are. Can you tell us where we can
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find your music? Yeah. All streaming platforms.
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I agree with Matt, but hey, you can't beat the
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game. You got to play it sometimes. So YouTube,
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Spotify, Apple Music, I'm on some local radio
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stations in Nebraska, but mostly, you know, the
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streaming platform is the best place to find
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me. When we come back after the break, we're
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going to meet the other two artists that are
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joining the roundtable live at Hero Stock. That
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would be DJ Bridwell and Derek Thompson. So stick
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around. Heroes stock August 15th at Country Drive
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00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:22.660
the Trainer Band, Briella Steiner and the Wicked
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Ones, Shelby Kay and the High Class Hillbillies,
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and more. This is a day dedicated to community
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and honoring heroes. Free entry for military,
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Bring your friends and lawn chairs. See more
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than 75 vendors and enjoy the music. Tickets
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and info at Welcome back to the roundtable where
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heroes talk we're Continuing our preview with
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the roundtable live at hero stock 26 by introducing
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two more outstanding songwriters You'll be seeing
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on stage this August in Ashland, Nebraska joining
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me our longtime friend of hero stock USMC veteran
00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:06.440
and North Platte songwriter Derek Thompson along
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.539
with Nebraska Country Music Hall of Fame winner,
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.220
DJ Bridwell, who is also one of the organizers
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of the Trails of Tales Songwriter Festival in
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Deadwood, South Dakota. Gentlemen, it's great
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seeing you. Welcome to the program. Nice to be
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here. Hey, great. Listen, Derek, I want to start
00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:28.400
with you. We've crossed paths numerous times
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.900
on a number of podcasts. And when I think about
00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:35.839
your journey, The word that comes to mind is
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service. I mean, it seems that you've shaped
00:28:38.539 --> 00:28:41.599
just about every chapter of your life around
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service. You have been a Marine, a firefighter,
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paramedic. Recently, you earned your national
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EMS certification as an EMT. And I'm just wondering,
00:28:52.660 --> 00:28:54.880
when you look back at all of these experiences,
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how has that shaped you as a songwriter? So it's
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one of those things where just coming into life,
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I love serving and having the opportunity to
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do that in a different mode, a little bit. It's
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a lot different, you know, it's a lot less tolling
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.839
on the body, I guess, in a lot of ways, maybe
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.079
not so much the psyche. Sometimes I still get
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.240
anxious and a little bit nervous when I get up
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.220
there. But just having the opportunity to share
00:29:22.220 --> 00:29:24.700
the experiences I've been through with people,
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through music, it's just an absolute blessing.
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You've been at this for a little while too. Yeah,
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I've been trying to get after here for a little
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bit. So just having fun with it and enjoying
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it while I can. All right. Now I want you to
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think back to a moment in time in your life when
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you knew almost immediately, I got to write a
00:29:47.710 --> 00:29:52.609
song about this. So I think a good instinct to
00:29:52.609 --> 00:29:56.430
that, uh, is just going through being injured
00:29:56.430 --> 00:30:00.809
on the fire department, getting back, uh, into
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music a few years later. It was probably two,
00:30:04.390 --> 00:30:06.490
three years later after I got heard on the fire
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department. I sat there and just had to think
00:30:09.730 --> 00:30:14.950
about what got me through the hard time of dealing
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with music. And that's where when I wrote Lighthouse
00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:20.869
was just about how it seemed like I was drowning,
00:30:20.869 --> 00:30:23.210
but there was always that light at the end of
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the tunnel that got me through the moments. So.
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All right, so now let's turn to Hero Stock. I
00:30:29.589 --> 00:30:31.690
know we have had an association with you for
00:30:31.690 --> 00:30:34.670
a number of years, performing on stage for Hero
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Stock events, even the songwriter round that
00:30:37.710 --> 00:30:40.829
you came and performed in. As you've watched
00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:43.970
Hero Stock grow, what does it mean to you? What
00:30:43.970 --> 00:30:45.750
does Hero Stock come to mean to you personally?
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I mean, it means everything. It was the first
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opportunity for me to really get up there and
00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:53.720
show off what I can do or have the experience
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.599
of doing that. And the community that they have
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.779
at Hero Stock and the family that I've built
00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:03.519
because of them, it's just next to nothing. It's
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.000
a family you don't expect to fall in love with.
00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:11.240
And then you meet everyone. And it's just, it
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.089
is, it's family. Well, I'm looking forward to
00:31:15.089 --> 00:31:17.630
seeing you in August here. Let me move on to
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DJ. Hey, DJ, this is going to be your first HeroStalk,
00:31:20.730 --> 00:31:25.009
right? And after hearing what the festival is
00:31:25.009 --> 00:31:27.569
all about, my guess is you wanted to be a part
00:31:27.569 --> 00:31:31.890
of it? Of course. Of course. I've had a relationship
00:31:31.890 --> 00:31:36.069
with Jason and HeroStalk directly for the last
00:31:36.069 --> 00:31:39.170
couple of years through our involvement with
00:31:39.170 --> 00:31:42.240
some other programs and stuff like that. Yeah,
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.299
it's cool. I was actually completely shocked
00:31:45.299 --> 00:31:49.099
that I was invited to begin with, given my circumstances.
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.880
But yeah, I thought that was cool. So I'm very
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.200
honored. All right. So you're the founder of
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.339
the Trails of Tales Songwriter Festival, which
00:31:56.339 --> 00:31:59.900
Hero Stock is a proud sponsor of and we're partnered
00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:03.180
with you. What inspired you to create it and
00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:05.700
why are songwriter around so important to you?
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.319
Co -founder, got to give a shout out there to
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.160
Dean Schaefer who joined me on the first year
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.000
there too, but what initially inspired me in
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.259
order to get involved with all these songwriters
00:32:16.259 --> 00:32:19.640
and bringing them to a special place. One, I
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.359
knew I was done with that game, but I always
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.000
still want to help younger artists achieve more
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.779
things and do that. And it turns out it's not
00:32:26.779 --> 00:32:29.960
just young artists. I mean, there's veteran artists
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.019
that have been involved in music for countless
00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:36.029
years and just haven't had necessarily the right
00:32:36.029 --> 00:32:38.069
platforms and I don't know is that I can call
00:32:38.069 --> 00:32:41.569
mine a right platform but we're definitely moving
00:32:41.569 --> 00:32:43.609
in that right direction and we learned after
00:32:43.609 --> 00:32:45.730
the first couple years that I think that there's
00:32:45.730 --> 00:32:48.089
there's room for everybody in advance networking
00:32:48.089 --> 00:32:50.410
always you're never going to reach the top of
00:32:50.410 --> 00:32:52.470
the network not in a million years not in this
00:32:52.470 --> 00:32:55.589
lifetime so we encourage everybody to kind of
00:32:55.589 --> 00:32:58.250
come up there and join that network and you know
00:32:58.250 --> 00:33:01.049
we've been thankful to have hero stock on the
00:33:01.049 --> 00:33:05.619
last two years as a sponsor and helping us grow
00:33:05.619 --> 00:33:11.039
our product as well. We've done this out of the
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.380
goodness of our heart, if you will. Up until
00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:17.220
this last year, Nina and I have went, we definitely
00:33:17.220 --> 00:33:20.900
went heavy in the red. We do that out of the
00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:24.900
love for the music and the artistry. I hope we
00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:26.960
really get to continue the partnership as well
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:31.039
as watch this thing just grow. Way to go. I remember
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.559
having the conversation with you. when you were
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.880
on the show with us last time and you mentioned
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.599
how many people have come to you and how many
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.819
more people have come to you more so than last
00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:47.279
year. We uh so you know we had 20 artists our
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.940
first year 38 our second we had uh 67 performances
00:33:50.940 --> 00:33:54.619
our first year 265 last year this year we're
00:33:54.619 --> 00:33:57.369
looking at I'm going to guess we're probably
00:33:57.369 --> 00:34:00.490
going to end up around 85, which should put us
00:34:00.490 --> 00:34:03.250
around 1 ,000 performances over three days. That's
00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:06.569
amazing. The right platform? I got 1 ,000 people
00:34:06.569 --> 00:34:11.769
probably say, yeah, it is. Yeah, it feels good.
00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:15.090
There's another one there. That whole town just
00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:18.409
turns into a, hey, we're showing up for original
00:34:18.409 --> 00:34:21.789
music. What better place to do that? Even in
00:34:21.789 --> 00:34:23.630
Nashville, they show up and want to hear your
00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:26.679
best Luke's cover. This is a completely different
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.199
situation, where people are showing up to listen
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.800
to a live original music, and they show up by
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.219
the thousands. So it's an easy choice on our
00:34:34.219 --> 00:34:37.739
part. Awesome. All right. Well, now comes the
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:39.760
live performance section. Derek, we're going
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.820
to put you up front first here. What song have
00:34:42.820 --> 00:34:45.360
you got for us? And maybe tell us a little bit
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:50.940
about it. So I guess I'll start with It's Meant
00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:54.159
To Be. It's a song that we just kind of reintroduced.
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.980
to Spotify and everything like that it's just
00:34:57.980 --> 00:35:00.739
about you know falling in love and Meeting somebody
00:35:00.739 --> 00:35:03.559
that you know it may not work out, but you know
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:38.909
it's supposed to you so Do this thing I'm 52
00:35:38.909 --> 00:35:42.869
miles down a bad country road, just sitting for
00:35:42.869 --> 00:35:49.369
a spot to finally let you go. But I can't. No,
00:35:49.730 --> 00:35:56.289
I can't. Your memories hit hard like a box -count
00:35:56.289 --> 00:35:59.849
train. I can't drink away the hurt, can't bury
00:35:59.849 --> 00:36:11.690
this pain. The Lord knows. Can't they? I know
00:36:11.690 --> 00:36:21.469
it's always true This compass always points me
00:36:21.469 --> 00:36:26.349
back to you Like old summer winds up there in
00:36:26.349 --> 00:36:31.610
Cheyenne The way your feet hold onto your hair
00:36:31.610 --> 00:36:35.710
The feeling that love knows someone's above Looking
00:36:35.710 --> 00:36:42.199
after little you The sun's gonna shine in Miami
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.320
Let's me know that you're the only light I see
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.579
In a world full of darkness Don't have to feel
00:36:49.579 --> 00:36:57.139
heartless I know who you're gonna be The woman
00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:08.909
that I love Cause you're the only It's meant
00:37:08.909 --> 00:37:27.050
to be You sent that bourbon cause you knew I
00:37:27.050 --> 00:37:30.809
was hurting Just trying to help me get by but
00:37:30.809 --> 00:37:41.469
you know Your truck's getting dirty, but you
00:37:41.469 --> 00:37:44.849
know I like it clean Just like that story that
00:37:44.849 --> 00:37:56.710
became you and me It just ain't No it ain't Still
00:37:56.710 --> 00:38:13.639
love you anyway The good Lord has his So when
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:18.119
summer winds up, they're a child Where you feel
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:23.820
so cold on your head Feeling that love when someone's
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above Looking after little you and me The sun's
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gonna shine in Miami Let's me know that you're
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the only light I see in a world full of dogs
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You're the only one It's meant to be That was
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awesome. Hey, DJ, it's your turn. Get a song
00:39:23.869 --> 00:39:26.150
for us. Yeah, that wasn't true. I knew we were
00:39:26.150 --> 00:39:55.360
going to do that there by the way. He's not trying
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.800
to get you back for the next moment. No, you
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don't know what you do to me. Because girl, you
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had that long hair flowing in blue. I shined
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.980
and came that summer sun. And no girl, I don't
00:40:13.980 --> 00:40:18.579
care where you're going. Just come back and bring
00:40:18.579 --> 00:40:22.079
me some. Because when we had it cold, we were
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:58.900
flowing. backstage you try to forget me no you
00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:05.239
don't know what you do to me it's true you had
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.139
a long hair flowing and blue eyes shining in
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pain that summer summer and no girl i don't care
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.619
where you would go and just come back and bring
00:41:17.619 --> 00:42:59.929
me summer I don't care where you're going. Nicely
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done, sir. Both of you, thank you very much.
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Now that we've heard a song from each of you,
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I'm going to ask you both this question. Where
00:43:09.389 --> 00:43:12.329
do your best song ideas usually come from? Eric,
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I'll start with you. The mind, mostly. A lot
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of late nights where I'm just sitting there and
00:43:20.869 --> 00:43:22.869
then I decide I can't sleep because I've got
00:43:22.869 --> 00:43:27.369
lyrics popping into my head and then lay down.
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.780
And the next line comes to my head. So I got
00:43:29.780 --> 00:43:31.880
to get back up, try to start, finish writing
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.900
the song, lay back down, more lyrics come. It's
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just a lot of late nights where I just can't
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sleep. So I pin and paper, I get up and I come
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over here and I have to, I have to come into
00:43:45.420 --> 00:43:47.880
my computer room. I sit down with a guitar and
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.519
then I start writing it and I'm like, all right,
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:51.280
I'm going to go to bed this time. And I do that
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:57.300
about seven times. DJ is that your is that is
00:43:57.300 --> 00:43:59.000
that how it works for you, too? I mean, is it
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.960
something similar or is it something completely
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.539
different? Honestly, no. I get most of my ideas,
00:44:06.539 --> 00:44:08.679
you know, throughout the course, just driving
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:10.519
down the road, kind of seeing something along
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.599
that that makes it. And then I try to make it
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.880
home. As I kind of explained before in our previous
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.440
interview, too, I'm not I'm not a big I don't
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.059
write things down on paper very too often. I
00:44:21.059 --> 00:44:25.789
did used to. I try to just get it all up here
00:44:25.789 --> 00:44:27.570
because then I feel like it gets more from the
00:44:27.570 --> 00:44:29.730
heart when I'm doing that too, as I have to go
00:44:29.730 --> 00:44:31.989
back and revisit those lyrics time and time again.
00:44:32.210 --> 00:44:34.309
And then I find different words that fit into
00:44:34.309 --> 00:44:38.590
those spots. But no, I kind of write just kind
00:44:38.590 --> 00:44:41.210
of right off the cuff. A lot of the stuff that
00:44:41.210 --> 00:44:43.469
I've done in my entire life between poetry and
00:44:43.469 --> 00:44:46.150
comedy and everything else has just been off
00:44:46.150 --> 00:44:49.010
the cuff stuff. So that's why I do my best work.
00:44:49.730 --> 00:44:53.090
Thank you. Man everyone's got their own way of
00:44:53.090 --> 00:44:56.110
doing things now I want you both to think about
00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:58.130
a song that you've written and you've written
00:44:58.130 --> 00:45:01.610
a number of them both of you have Is there a
00:45:01.610 --> 00:45:04.010
song that you've written that means more to you
00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:11.929
today than when you first wrote it? Oh Yeah,
00:45:11.929 --> 00:45:16.429
goodbyes when I wrote that kind of started out
00:45:16.429 --> 00:45:19.039
as a I was trying to deal with the fact that
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.119
my dog was dying. I was just trying to get something
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.559
out on paper. And then the more I thought about
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.519
it and the more I started diving into writing
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.960
that song, the more it reminded me how fragile
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.079
life is. And I started thinking about my parents
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.079
and every time I play it, I think more about
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.860
what it's going to be like to have to lose parents
00:45:36.860 --> 00:45:41.300
and lose, you know, all the people around me,
00:45:41.699 --> 00:45:45.619
family and close ones. And it just, it hits harder
00:45:45.619 --> 00:45:49.630
a little bit every time I play it. It was understandable.
00:45:50.730 --> 00:45:54.809
What about you, DJ? Yeah. So I debuted a song
00:45:54.809 --> 00:45:58.510
on this podcast a while back. It's called Chase
00:45:58.510 --> 00:46:01.150
and Miles. And it's one of the deals where I
00:46:01.150 --> 00:46:02.789
wrote, obviously, because I felt connected to
00:46:02.789 --> 00:46:05.690
the song. I thought that it was potentially one
00:46:05.690 --> 00:46:07.809
of the best songs that I've ever wrote since
00:46:07.809 --> 00:46:12.429
that time. I wrote another one. I can explain
00:46:12.429 --> 00:46:14.670
both, but I'll stick with Chase and Miles. But
00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:17.800
Chase and Miles... I've had a lot of friends
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.139
going through some really rough times with their
00:46:20.139 --> 00:46:21.940
significant others and stuff in the past few
00:46:21.940 --> 00:46:25.739
months and chasing miles is even as Most recent
00:46:25.739 --> 00:46:30.300
as two nights ago was just really hit home And
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:33.320
explained a lot of what was even going on in
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:36.340
his life, so it's Yeah, I would say that one
00:46:36.340 --> 00:46:38.579
definitely has made his connection as far as
00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:41.820
the old stuff goes It is what it is. Yeah, of
00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:45.860
course I can Not every song is that way it's
00:46:45.860 --> 00:46:47.420
kind of like yeah, I wrote it for the time and
00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:50.400
it had its meaning then but They're there one
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.920
or two that'll kind of catch it by surprise.
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:54.380
It's like, you know, I never really thought of
00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:58.480
it from that perspective, you know But alright
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.679
last last of the serious questions here one thing
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.159
you've learned from another songwriter that sticks
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:16.849
with you most Tom, you should go first. I have
00:47:16.849 --> 00:47:19.170
to say, and this has nothing to do with the songwriting
00:47:19.170 --> 00:47:21.469
perspective. That's why it's just kind of been
00:47:21.469 --> 00:47:24.949
my own newsfeed there. But from a performance
00:47:24.949 --> 00:47:28.809
perspective and just as a performer, I have to
00:47:28.809 --> 00:47:31.309
say Chansey Williams gave me some of the best
00:47:31.309 --> 00:47:34.329
advice that I've probably ever had. And I was
00:47:34.329 --> 00:47:37.329
fighting for my life on stage trying to make
00:47:37.329 --> 00:47:40.139
sure that everything was always going right,
00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:43.019
nobody was making errors and I'm not making errors
00:47:43.019 --> 00:47:45.639
and thinking about reading the crowd and doing
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.039
everything else. And I lost a lot of what would
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.260
be natural energy by scripting it too much in
00:47:53.260 --> 00:47:58.039
my own brain. So when I got off stage, he had
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:00.440
told me, he's like, dude, great performance,
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.329
love your voice, love your songs. you gotta have
00:48:06.329 --> 00:48:08.630
some fun up there. And he's like, it looks like
00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:10.849
you're trying to have fun and not having fun.
00:48:11.469 --> 00:48:15.530
And so I think it spoke volumes to me at the
00:48:15.530 --> 00:48:18.969
time and still sticks out to me this day of what
00:48:18.969 --> 00:48:23.690
I want to help others with, if that makes sense.
00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:26.949
Sure. Derek, what about you? Yeah, I think along
00:48:26.949 --> 00:48:30.800
the same lines, just kind of my guitarist. Telling
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.679
me my lead guitarist, you know when he's around
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.599
he's done this so many times and he's like He's
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.460
like you're stressing yourself out when you get
00:48:38.460 --> 00:48:40.840
up on stage. He's like the best thing you do
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:42.960
He said this isn't any different than practice
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.679
man Like when we get together and we do band
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.159
practice. It's the same thing. So you're just
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.039
doing that in front of some people so look at
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.280
everything like band practice and I've been doing
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.179
that and I'm a lot more relaxed and you know
00:48:56.179 --> 00:48:58.420
I can go with the flow and just enjoy the moment
00:48:58.420 --> 00:49:01.340
instead of being stressed out about don't screw
00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:04.300
this court up or don't screw this up or you know
00:49:04.300 --> 00:49:06.920
I'm less in my head if you will than I would
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:11.460
be otherwise. It's one thing to play it in the
00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:13.400
privacy of your own home or in your studio and
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.360
then when you get out there and you perform it's
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:18.849
like Why does it feel so different as much as
00:49:18.849 --> 00:49:21.230
I practice and I've worked hard at you know?
00:49:21.369 --> 00:49:23.590
Performing these songs, right? It just doesn't
00:49:23.590 --> 00:49:26.570
feel right out there in front of people I'm still
00:49:26.570 --> 00:49:29.909
getting used to that. So it's a still gets my
00:49:29.909 --> 00:49:33.349
nerves going a little bit Do we ever get over
00:49:33.349 --> 00:49:37.190
it? Sometimes yeah, I guess I don't know. Let's
00:49:37.190 --> 00:49:39.309
go back to some of your songs Derek. You're next
00:49:39.309 --> 00:49:41.809
What song you got and maybe all right, I'll do
00:49:41.809 --> 00:49:47.369
I'll do memories and it's just a song about Met
00:49:47.369 --> 00:49:51.010
somebody and you know, we sometimes you got to
00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:53.389
walk away but there's always the memories there
00:49:53.389 --> 00:49:57.469
and it kind of about kids and Everyone that you
00:49:57.469 --> 00:50:00.869
come across in life and you create memories and
00:50:00.869 --> 00:50:22.000
that doesn't go away. So We met in the bar When
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:28.500
you walked on up to me I was awkward and all
00:50:28.500 --> 00:50:36.000
I was desperate just to please Next thing you
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:43.199
know We're looking for a place to see The sparks
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:47.860
will fly Oh, we've found a better place to be
00:50:51.719 --> 00:51:02.119
If I tried harder To be the man you thought I'd
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:13.139
always be Now the day will pass when you don't
00:51:13.139 --> 00:51:17.679
cross my mind From the days that we golfed and
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.980
the places we dined If I thought for a moment
00:51:20.980 --> 00:51:50.710
you would Well, I just went home. And you got
00:51:50.710 --> 00:51:58.070
that ass you playin' Steals your music, oh The
00:51:58.070 --> 00:52:04.389
songs that make us cry Like good ol' Blake Tell
00:52:04.389 --> 00:52:13.130
us about how he is Lonely tonight What if I tried
00:52:13.130 --> 00:52:30.739
all night You thought I'd always be Now the day
00:52:30.739 --> 00:52:36.000
will pass when you don't cross my mind From the
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.500
days that we golfed and the places we died Never
00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:43.239
thought for a moment you wouldn't be mine And
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:48.039
I took that a left, you took that a right Mixing
00:52:48.039 --> 00:53:17.920
in those words Tryin' harder To be the man you
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:29.320
thought I'd always be Now a day will pass when
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:34.159
you don't cross my mind From the days that we
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:38.460
golfed in the place we died near the pop -a -moji
00:54:07.990 --> 00:54:12.139
Nicely done sir. Thank you. DJ before we get
00:54:12.139 --> 00:54:13.780
you on here We're gonna do the quick lightning
00:54:13.780 --> 00:54:15.820
round and then we'll get you right into your
00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:18.940
song Derek your first favorite guitar favorite
00:54:18.940 --> 00:54:24.739
guitar my rask obviously Oh Another sponsor of
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hero stock from from way back when All right
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:33.639
DJ lyrics first or melody first Lyrics lyrics,
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.920
okay I'm gonna say Derek one song that's always
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.619
on your playlist uh bittersweet by nate smith
00:54:42.619 --> 00:54:48.159
oh okay all right uh campfire or listening room
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.280
dj listening room can't stand the smoke from
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:55.539
the fire there's a song in that somewhere you
00:54:55.539 --> 00:55:00.099
know and uh who would you most like to share
00:55:00.099 --> 00:55:05.340
the stage with derek uh honestly probably cody
00:55:05.340 --> 00:55:08.059
johnson i think that'd be a hootenanny i love
00:55:08.059 --> 00:55:12.519
his energy man man that'd be something to watch
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.119
for sure and uh last one for you dj one song
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.739
rather you'd love to sit down and write with
00:55:19.739 --> 00:55:27.940
um eric duran's jake owen's number one song it's
00:55:27.940 --> 00:55:31.940
just uh i've been for years it's all great dude
00:55:31.940 --> 00:55:36.099
nice all right gents well let's continue on dj
00:55:36.099 --> 00:55:37.840
what song have you got for us and tell us a little
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.480
bit about it Well, I played this song before.
00:55:41.619 --> 00:55:43.699
I'm going to play it again in the right key this
00:55:43.699 --> 00:55:47.239
time. And a few months old, but this is, as we
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:50.980
mentioned earlier, chasing miles. And I think
00:55:50.980 --> 00:55:53.639
everybody can relate to this song at some point
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.179
in their life, whether it's just a small little
00:55:56.179 --> 00:56:02.219
moment or a negative ending conversation, but
00:56:02.219 --> 00:56:04.500
it's about a girl sitting in a bench seat with
00:56:04.500 --> 00:56:07.699
you three feet away. And the farther you travel
00:56:07.699 --> 00:56:10.139
through life down the road, as the song says,
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:12.480
you just get miles and miles apart until you
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:36.360
drift away. It's called Chasing You. And I'm
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.360
praying for a sign from you and I'm scared as
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.880
hell you won't And if your heart's already gone
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:50.519
girl tell me now before we roll Cause I can't
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:55.840
keep on driving if I'm driving you to go But
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:01.179
I keep chasing miles staring past the dashboard
00:57:01.179 --> 00:57:06.940
light It's like the farther that we drive, the
00:57:06.940 --> 00:57:10.940
closer it gets to goodbye. And I'm here trying
00:57:10.940 --> 00:57:16.280
all the while to bring it back by myself. But
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:24.059
I keep chasing mine, and you're leaving me behind.
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:49.260
And I wonder if I'm losing you or learning how
00:57:49.260 --> 00:57:56.639
to drive But I keep chasing miles, steering past
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:01.039
the dashboard light It's like a father that we
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:44.519
drive DJ Bridwell, that sounds awesome. I love
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.360
it just as much as the last time you played it
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.400
for us. All right. Well, look forward to seeing
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.420
you guys both in August. If you've enjoyed today's
00:58:54.420 --> 00:58:57.199
conversation, then we hope you'll join us for
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00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:04.119
August 15th in Ashland, Nebraska, where Derek
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.900
and DJ will be joined by Matthew Jones and Anthony
00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:10.000
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00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.980
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