Episode 33: A Nightmare on Elm Street

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A group of teenagers who are afraid to fall asleep.
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A horribly burned killer with a razor blade glove who's waiting for them when they do.
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What if the one place you're supposed to be completely safe, inside your own dreams, suddenly became the one place you couldn't escape?
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And what if the only way to stay alive was to load up on more caffeine pills than Jesse Spano on a very special episode of Save by the Bell?
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We're so excited! We're so excited! We're so scared to be talking about a nightmare in Elm Street on this episode of the Regular Guy Movie Show.
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I'm Seth, and joining me as always are two guys I'd absolutely trust to keep me awake late at night, Justin and Brian.
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Gentlemen, are you ready to meet the man of your dreams?
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All I gotta say is.
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This comes from Four Hands Brewing.
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It's a collaboration with Clementine's Ice Cream.
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It's their vanilla pumpkin ale.
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An ale with spices and vanilla.
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It is an ale with spices and vanilla.
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It is, and I can taste those.
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So Clementine's ice cream is an ice cream and a pumpkin and pumpkin.
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So the Clementines has a variety of ice cream shops around the St.
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Louis area.
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And there's one in Edwardsville, Illinois that my family likes to go to on a regular basis.
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We love Clementines.
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And so we were there just a week or so ago, and they had a pumpkin ice cream that my daughter Cameron had to sample.
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And her initial response was a thing of beauty.
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And I think it applies to my first taste of this beer.
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What was that?
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This tastes like Hobby Lobby smells.
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And I and I fully agree.
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Uh-huh.
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My first sip was a bit potpourri-ish.
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Yeah, she's not wrong.
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But the more sips I've gotten into this beer, it's pretty dang good.
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It's not bad.
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I will say it's not bad.
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I think, okay, so we are we're back in that spooky season time of year again.
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We're doing the thing that we did last year: a pumpkin beer, an Oktoberfest beer, and then a wild card, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Um I would have to say, based on the pumpkin beers we had last year, this one's probably the best one that we've had.
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That wasn't a concoction that was mixed together with something else.
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Fully agree.
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So I get I get more vanilla than pumpkin.
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I think that's a good thing.
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I do too, because like like you, I'm I'm not the biggest fan of Oh man.
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This morning I had a pumpkin uh shaken espresso.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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Because it was delicious.
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Yeah?
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Yeah, I I like pumpkin stuff.
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I'm a basic white girl.
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I was gonna say, okay, all right.
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But I'm not a big fan of pumpkin and my beer.
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So I'm not a huge fan of pumpkin beers.
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This one is at least tolerable.
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It's drinkable, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like I'll finish this.
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And it's a one-pint can.
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And yeah, I'm I'm most of the way through this one.
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And it's I forgot that it's a pumpkin beer.
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Yeah, I mean, the spices and the vanilla, I think, are take kind of the main stage on this one.
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The pumpkin's kind of a little bit more subtle in the background.
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I I think that's a good thing.
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Yeah.
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I think if you like pumpkin in your beer, you would really enjoy this.
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Probably.
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Yeah, I think so.
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Don't get yourself a little bit of a little bit of a little bit more.
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If you don't love pumpkin in your beer, get about three sips in.
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And it's not bad at all.
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Yeah, give it a chance.
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Yeah.
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Give it a chance.
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You might like it.
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Yeah, this is uh a solid okay for me.
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A solid okay.
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Solid okay.
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Solid okay.
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Well, on this episode, we are talking about a nightmare on Elm Street.
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Gentlemen, what was your first memories of watching a nightmare in Elm Street?
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Sleepover.
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Yeah?
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VCR rental.
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Yep.
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For sure.
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So I think probably like seventh or eighth grade.
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I'm right there with you.
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Yeah.
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I was I put it around 13, 13 years old.
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And I even said the prime sleepover age.
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The watching scary flicks for naked chicks age.
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See, I didn't come to a nightmare on Elm Street until I was much older.
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Okay.
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Um, you know, a lot of people um, you know, they draw that line, Star Trek, Star Wars, you're one or the other.
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You can't be both.
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For me, I always had that same mentality when it came to slasher films, and I was a Friday the 13th kid.
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Oh, okay.
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And so I never wanted to cross over to Nightmare Elm Street.
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And the other people, like I knew, like the people I watch movies with at Sleepovers, we were all Friday the 13th.
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Okay.
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And so only those weirdos over across the street watched Nightmare on Elm Street.
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And so when I was older, I'm like, you know what?
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I'm gonna finally watch a Nightmare on Elm Street.
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And I was pissed off I waited so long to watch it.
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I could see that.
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You know, there were congruent horror franchises, you know, through our childhood, and and I think Nightmare on Elm Street was one of them with like Halloween and Friday the thirteenth.
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I think those were the big three.
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Yeah, I think so.
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You had a few others, you had you know, child's play, you know, in there.
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You had Children of the Corn, you had The Exorcist, and you had um Omen and and Um Hellra Hellraiser?
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Hellraiser, yeah, yeah.
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Sleep away camp.
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Sleep Awake, yeah.
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And so and a lot of them were were good one one-off movies, but you know, the franchises, you had, as far as I'm concerned, the big three.
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Right, I agree.
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Definitely.
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And Nightmare on Elm Street was one of the franchises that I watched.
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I didn't watch the others.
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You didn't watch any of the other ones?
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No.
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No, I saw Halloween for the first time when then uh Friday the 13th.
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I've never seen a Friday 13th movie.
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No way.
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Yet.
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Yeah, yet the power of yet.
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Yeah, yeah, it might be coming.
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So yeah, my maybe my horizons will be expanded.
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But yeah, I was I was one of those kids in the nightmare on Elm Street group.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, for other people out there who who chose to to skip a nightmare on Elm Street, yeah.
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Let's take a little time for some story time with Brian.
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Brian, tell us a story.
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Once upon a time, in the seemingly peaceful town of Springwood, Ohio, a group of teenagers discovered that bedtime was no longer something to look forward to.
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You see, lurking in the land of dreams was a very nasty fellow named Freddy Krueger.
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Freddy had discovered a particularly unfair trick.
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He could enter your dreams, and if he killed you there, you didn't wake up.
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As one friend after another falls victim, Nancy Thompson realizes that the only way to survive the night is to uncover the truth about Freddy and somehow find a way to defeat a monster who can only reach her when she sleeps.
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So, gather round, turn off the lights, and remember, if you hear a strange scratching noise in the darkness, whatever you do, don't fall asleep.
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For this is a little bedtime story where the boogeyman isn't hiding in your closet or under the bed.
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He's waiting inside your dreams.
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Oh damn.
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Good luck falling asleep tonight, kids.
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This might have been the my favorite story time to write.
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That was a good one.
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I like it.
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And how did uh Nightmare on Elm Street do on the box office, Brian?
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Okay, so there's a really magical story about the funding in this movie, and we'll get there.
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Uh but the production budget was about$1.8 million.
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Pretty low.
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Yeah, it is pretty low.
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The total worldwide box office was$59.2 million.
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Okay.
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So you take a 1.8 million movie, you turn it into a$59.2 million success.
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Not too shabby.
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And you launch one of the biggest horror franchises in movie history.
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Amazing.
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What an investment.
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You don't just launch a franchise, you basically launched an entire studio.
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Yes.
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This was the first movie that this studio made.
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New line studios.
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Newline studio.
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Oh, no kidding.
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Yeah, and I didn't know that.
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They went on to do some really big movies.
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Including Robocop! Robocop.
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One of our favorites.
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The Lord of the Rings trilogy.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, that's New Line Cinema.
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I didn't personally see those, but I know there's a lot of hype around them.
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I did.
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Yeah.
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Not the Lord of the Rings, though.
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Yeah, that I can't see you watching those.
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No.
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I love them.
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I'm sure you do.
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But yeah.
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It sounds awful nerdy.
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That's me! So there's a real relationship between New Line Cinema and uh the guy who wrote.
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At Ronald Street.
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Wes Craven.
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Yeah, Wes Craven.
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So Wes Craven was shopping this movie around, and he was shopping it around to different movie houses for a couple years, and nobody wanted it.
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Um you know, a killer who attacks you while you sleep?
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That's kind of crazy.
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So Newline took it on.
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They bought it for about$5,000.
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Five grand.
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They bought it.
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So here's where it gets crazy though.
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Newline had to cobble together financing from outside investors.
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And one of the major investors to make this movie backed out just a few weeks, like four weeks before production started.
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Yeah.
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So the the dude in charge, Robert Shea.
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Yeah, that's correct.
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Yeah, Robert Shea.
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Um the Newline cinema guy, he went over to Cannes, the film festival, and tried to hobknob with directors and producers and actors, and he was writing out financial deals on a legal pad.
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You know, trying to secure money for this movie to get made.
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In fact, he ended up getting some money, but not at first.
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He paid some of the actors' salaries out of his own pocket to get this movie made.
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Okay.
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And uh I can't imagine there were huge salaries.
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No, I know.
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No, I mean the whole movie is made for 1.8 million, so probably not.
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But um so these these production companies are called movie houses.
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New line cinema in the business is called The House That Freddie built.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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That's amazing.
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And they went on to do some awesome stuff like we talked about.
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Great story of perseverance.
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You know, I'm just not gonna give up knocking down doors.
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So I don't think we can really talk about a nightmare Elm Street without also talking about the other franchises of the time.
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And we we've already touched on a nightmare or on um we've already touched on Friday the 13th, we've touched on uh Halloween, all of them these films were kind of existing and working in the same playground around the same time in the late 70s through mid-80s, yeah, but to launch their their franchises.
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Um, interestingly, Nightmare Elm Street, while 1.8 million sounds really low, especially compared to some of the movies we've talked about.
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Yeah, compared to the uh uh Halloween and Friday the 13th, it was quite a lot of money.
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Yeah, for sure.
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So Halloween was$325,000 production budget, uh, with a worldwide box office of$70.3 million, which is a 216 times return on investment.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Um Friday the 13th,$550,000 with uh about the same, about a almost a$60 million return on uh worldwide box office.
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Uh so their return was 109 times in the original investment.
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So this was a 33 times investment, pretty dang good, but um you know not quite the same mark as some of these other franchises.
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Not record breaking like the others, you know.
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But I did uh while I was watching this and I I didn't look it up, but I was really curious, and I was hoping one of you guys would have it.
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And I'm glad you did, because I was curious what the budget on this was, because it was roughly the same time, you know, of like Halloween and their tiny budget.
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Well, Halloween was 78.
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Uh-huh.
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And so this was 84.
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Right.
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And so you're making them in pr I mean the same era.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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Um and we found so many holes and so many cheesy things at$325,000, you know, to make the movie.
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So I was really kind of curious.
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Like, what was the budget for this?
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Because it seemed like their effects were much better.
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Much better.
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So even at that slower price point, it seemed some of them were.
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Of course, yeah.
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But we'll get there.
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But even for like, what was it?
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1.1 uh 1.8 million.
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Some of the practical effects in this movie, yeah, weren't weren't anything great, but they were still better in some of the practical effects than poltergeist had, yeah, which was a Steven Spielberg production.
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Yeah, you know, it it I kind of put it in the same category.
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There were some effects that were amazing, and there were some effects that were terrible.
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But even but even the ones that weren't amazing, I forgave because it was a$1.8 million dollar slasher film.
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Right, right.
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Exactly.
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Not a Hollywood blockbuster kind of movie.
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Temper your expectations.
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Right.
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Well, how did this uh movie do with reviewers, Justin?
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All right.
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So Rotten Tomatoes has a certified fresh score of 93% based on 71 reviews from critics.
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That's pretty high.
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And a popcorn meter of 84% based on over 250,000 viewer ratings.
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Dang! So another horror movie that did pretty damn well with both chat with both critics and viewers.
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You know how I like pulling these.
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Um I I got some reviews here.
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Please, yeah, yeah, let's go.
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The first one's great and it's really short.
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Now they did rate this five out of five.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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It was from 2005.
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And it says classic 80s horror.
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And Johnny Depp dies.
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That one tickled me pretty good.
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And my other one is from 2025.
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It was rated 10 out of 10.
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Most of the scenes in special effects hold up even today.
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Some effects admittedly fall flat, and if you enter the realm of so bad they're good, regardless, it still deserves its place as one of the genre's tent whole films.
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I I I could agree with that.
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Absolutely.
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I think it points out some of the criticism I have, but it also points out some positive.
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Now, I don't think I would have rated it 10 out of 10.
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Right.
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You know, I think they were a bit generous on their on their rating, but the content of the review was pretty spot on.
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All right.
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Well, this movie was written and directed by Wes Craven.
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You probably heard of him before.
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He's done a few things.
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And sometimes.
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And and prior to uh Nightmare, he already had established himself as a bit as a fairly successful horror director.
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Uh he directed The Last House on the Left in 1972, The Hills Have Eyes in 1977, uh, Deadly Blessing in '81 and Swamp Thing uh in '82 followed, but neither one were decent hits.
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And so it put him on a bit of a slump.
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You know, he was really struggling to find his place as a filmmaker.
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Weren't those first two movies remade?
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They were.
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Yeah.
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Um yeah.
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Because I didn't know that the one that I've seen wasn't the original.
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Oh, no kidding.
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Yeah.
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I don't know that.
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I didn't know it was a remake.
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Well, now you know is half the battle.
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G I Joe.
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Oh, the the star just shot across the TV screen.
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The more you know, the more you know.
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I learned something.
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The idea of this movie, uh, or the central premise anyway, was it was partly inspired by a series of newspaper stories that Craven read about a Southeast Asian refugee who died unexpectedly in their sleep, uh, reportedly suffering uh terrifying nightmares.
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Uh, and he tried to avoid sleeping entirely, uh, but but ultimately died.
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Uh so Craven got hooked on that story and was fascinated by the idea that someone could be so frightened of a dream that they resisted sleep to the point that they would eventually fall asleep and die.
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Yeah, that's cool.
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I mean not cool.
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I mean rephrase that's really interesting.
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It is interesting.
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Now unheartless.
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What the story I love the most here, though, uh, is where Freddie Krueger comes from.
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Uh, Craven um named Freddie Krueger after his childhood bully.
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Now that's awesome.
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That is awesome.
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Oh, what a middle finger to that guy.
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Yeah, he played the long play on that one.
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It's like, fuck you.
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I'm gonna get you someday.
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Right?
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Now, can you can can you just imagine this kid grew up 20, 30 years old at this point, working at some job somewhere, and probably could never go to a job interview again.
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Because his name is Fred Krueger.
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I'm not gonna hire Fred Krueger.
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I wonder if he had to pay him anything for using his name.
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No, it's just a name.
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So I'm gonna write a horror movie and I'm gonna make the bad guy Tim Fehey.
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Fuck you, Tim Feyee.
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Fuck you for bullying Brian.
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I got him back.
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That's gonna start being every movie that we ever make ever again.
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That's always gonna be a DJ.
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Tim Fehey.
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Or the first victim.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Perfect.
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Well, who is in front of the camera, Justin?
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Oh, we can.
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I got a few here if you want to talk about it.
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Let's go ahead and dive on in.
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All right.
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First up on my list is Nancy Thompson, played by Heather Langenkamp.
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Screw sleep!
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She's a Bruce Lee.
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She's in Screw Sleep.
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I was in Bruce Lee.
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I was like, is she karate chapping things?
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You know, Miss Piggy?
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I I gotta say, there are times.
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There are times I struggle because even though an actor has a lot of screen time, it's hard to find that short moment that's a funny standalone.
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Right, for sure.
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And I struggled to find anything from Nancy that would stand as a five-second soundbite.
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And so all we get is screw sleep.
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I do have one for later because I wrote it down that I thought was real funny.
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We'll get to it.
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So Nancy's a smart, determined teenager who realizes something supernatural is hunting her friends.
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She investigates Freddy's past, refuses to let fear control her, and becomes the person willing to fight back when everyone else is asleep.
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What did you guys think about her though?
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She she was the prototypical 1980s good-looking high school girl.
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She kind of reminded me of the the young girl from past times.
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Okay.
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The one that lost her virginity in a in a little league dugout.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um Stacy.
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Yeah, that was my first thought of her.
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I actually had to IMDB this.
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And I did not on this viewing because I've I w I've watched this regularly now.
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Uh, but on one of the previous viewings, I am IMDB'd it because I thought for sure, is that the chick from Say Anything?
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Oh.
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It's not it's not.
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It's not.
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But she had the same kind of look as Ioni Skye.
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I can see that.
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Who is the love interest and say anything with John Cusack?
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But it's not.
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But yeah, there was something about that time period.
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This look was the thing.
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I think it gives credence to what you said then, Brian.
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Yeah.
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So she she was the prototypical 80s girl.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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As a character, she she was a bit vulnerable.
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But yet she was kind of strong.
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I don't know.
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She she was a couple different things throughout this thing.
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I like and I thought the turn was a little strange.
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It was.
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It was it was very strange.
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Yeah.
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But I liked it though.
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Because she did start off as like this like meek and meager kind of person, and then she became the strongest person in the whole movie.
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Right.
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You know.
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Maybe it was a bit strange, and we'll get to it for sure.
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And quick.
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Maybe it's because she was sleep depressed.
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In the coffee she was hiding in a nightstand.
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Coffee pot.
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In the nightstand.
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That was one of my favorite.
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It was a small moment.
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But yeah, when mom takes away the coffee pot and then she goes and pulls out another coffee pot away from under her dresser.
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I mean, it was a throwaway, but I loved that.
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Yeah, there's lots of little things in there.
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Made an impression, yeah.
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It was funny.
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She was okay.
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You know, I I don't know what else she had acted prior to this.
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This was her her breakthrough role.
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Um she was 20 years old at the time of filming.
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Um thank god you told me that because I saw her boob.
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And and I initially I'm thinking, I just saw a high school girl's boob.
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This is weird.
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Now I'm a dirty old man.
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I'm a dirty old man.
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Right, so I rewound it and watched it a couple times.
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I actually have seen, had seen her previously, though I forgot that I had.
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She was uh one of the daughters on the TV show Growing Pains.
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Really?
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I'm sorry, no, I'm sorry.
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She had a recurring role on Growing Pains, but then she was one of the daughters on the show Just the Ten of Us.
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Never saw just the I was not a Just the Ten of Us guy.
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Didn't see that either.
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Yeah, that doesn't shock me one day.
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Growing Pains, though.
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Yeah, I did see Growing Pains quite a bit.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so she had some success on TV.
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But as far as film work, uh she returned as Nancy in a nightmare on Elm Street 3 Dream Warriors, and then played a fictionalized version of herself in Wes Craven's New Nightmare in 1994.
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She has since though become very involved in practical effects.
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Oh, no good.
00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:39.920
Oh, good for her.
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And uh she has a company AFX Studio, which she operates with her husband, and their effects work includes major productions, including Dawn of the Dead, Cinderella Man, Evan Almighty, and The Cabin in the Woods.
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Very nice.
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So she did the Upskirt in Evan Almighty.
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Well, I don't know if she did that one, but yeah, no, so she she was a really special effect.
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Special to me.
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Yeah.
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Special in my heart.
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I imagine some seeds were planted through this movie.
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I'll tell you what.
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I think so.
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That's cool.
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Cabin in the woods.
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There were some real good effects in that movie.
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Yeah.
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Really good.
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Especially like skin falling off and stuff.
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Like, that's awesome.
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Good for her.
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Alright, who else we got?
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Next time I have Freddie Krueger, played by Robert England.
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I'm your boyfriend now, Nancy.
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I'm your boyfriend now.
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Pretty fucking creepy, old guy.
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So Freddy's a burned razor gloved child murderer who attacks his victims in their dreams.
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He's cruel, theatrical, and deeply unsettling, turning ordinary things, sleep, a school hallway, a telephone into weapons.
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You know, I think what sets him apart from the other franchised villains of the time is he actually has a personality.
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Well he develops one as the movies go on.
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Yeah.
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In this movie he really didn't.
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In the other movies, he's kind of a funny guy.
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Yeah.
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You know, with the one-liners and the shtick.
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This this one he had a a couple.
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He really brought the camp in later.
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I thought he was actually more frightening in this movie than the others because he wasn't humorous and he didn't have a personality.
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Oh, I think he still had personality.
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Like there's a moment where he slices off his fingers like, look at this.
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I mean, that was I mean, it wasn't necessarily, you know, Michael Myers putting on a sheet and you know, pretending to be a ghost.
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But but there was there was a humor to that.
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And even, you know, when he slices his chest open, I mean, he didn't have to do that or licking the phone.
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It was a twisted, dark sense of humor that was there.
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But but there was at least a personality and a voice.
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Whereas which is that by itself is so much more than the silent lunks we get in the other movies.
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I I thought he'd have been scarier if he never said a word.
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Maybe.
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That could be, yeah.
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That could be.
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So Robert England was not the original person chosen for this.
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Who was it?
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Uh there was a a British actor, uh, and now man, I I have uh it written down here.
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Let me find it real quick.
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Uh David Warner, uh, who was in The Omen and a few other things.
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Uh, he was originally cast and even got to the point of doing the makeup tests.
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And West Craven's like, you know what?
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Not feeling this.
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And then they went to another actor uh named Kane Hotter, who is would later become the most notable Jason in the Friday the 13th sequels.
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Oh no, it couldn't.
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Big, looming, large character.
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He when he was they were thinking, you know what, maybe Freddie should just be a big dude.
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And uh but then they s saw Robert England in the V miniseries.
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That's what that's what I know him from.
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Yeah.
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I watched V.
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I thought I I saw the the series V when I was a kid.
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Okay.
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I loved it.
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I never thought.
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Yeah.
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And uh they approached him about it, and he was open to the idea, and and he took ownership of the role and made it his own.
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Yeah, I I heard he he turned Freddie into the character that Freddie became because of the actor.
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And and if I remember correctly, uh he they actually tried recasting him for the sequels because he wanted too much money.
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And they realized really quickly, because they thought, you know what, he doesn't have to have a personality.
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We could just have do the Jason thing and just be basically a stunt guy um and just make him a silent murderer.
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And they realized really quickly, nope, nope.
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He this ain't it.
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He's he's kind of the keystone of the franchise.
00:27:52.000 --> 00:28:04.799
So, yeah, so then Robert Englund would go on to stick around for uh for eight films, uh up through the Freddie versus Jason, which I gotta say a great negotiation angle.
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:09.680
Well, because the other I am Nightmare on Elm Street, right?
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.359
And because these other movies, the killers have masks, right?
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There's they have no bargaining power, and they also they're just that's true stand-ins.
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In fact, uh, if if you remember from um The Last Starfighter, uh the director of The Last Starfighter was the stand was was Michael Myers in the in like in uh one of the original Halloween movies.
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:34.559
Yeah, yeah.
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I've just gotta stand here and breathe.
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Yeah.
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:46.880
Uh other things he's been in, though, uh we mentioned the mini-series V as well as V, the Final Battle.
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Um, and he was also in the Phantom of the Opera, Urban Legend, and uh he was Victor Creel in Stranger Things.
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:56.720
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.319
I didn't either.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Who is Victor Creel?
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Victor Creel is the father of Vecna.
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Vector.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Got it now.
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How many red how many red how many red and green sweaters do you think he has?
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If I were him, I would go out and like walk, you know, Hollywood Boulevard.
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:20.160
That'd be my day-to-day outfit.
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.799
Yeah, and just throw that sweater on and walk the way I am.
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:24.880
Even that red and green sweater.
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:25.920
It was chosen.
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:26.960
It was a psychological one.
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:37.039
It was because red and green are contrasting colors, and the filmmakers are like, well, that would be very disconcerting to have those colors in back to back to back to back.
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:38.480
It's visual dissonance.
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:38.880
Yeah.
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:39.119
Yeah.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:39.839
Interesting.
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.359
So we're gonna make you uncomfortable.
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.119
Okay.
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:44.960
Yeah, a little psychological trick.
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:45.279
Okay.
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.519
So Christmas is red and green.
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.200
It's a psychological trick.
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:50.799
And so is the dream truth.
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:53.680
Alright, who else we got?
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.599
Next is Glenn Lance, played by Johnny Depp.
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.079
I'm gonna punch out your ugly lights, whoever you are.
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.240
Punch out your ugly lights.
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:06.559
Giddy giddy.
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.480
I'm not gonna punch out your pretty lights.
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.079
No, just your ugly ones.
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:12.480
Yeah.
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:13.599
Don't worry about the pretty ones.
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.119
Those are fine.
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:16.799
Punch out your ugly lights.
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:23.519
So Glenn is Nancy's boyfriend, a laid-back teenager who tries to rationalize the nightmare situation.
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:30.160
He cares about Nancy, but remains skeptical of the danger even when the evidence becomes impossible to ignore.
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:35.920
Okay, so to me, this was Johnny Depp before Johnny Depp became Johnny Depp.
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:36.319
Uh-huh.
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.519
So I didn't find him annoying.
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.599
It amazed me though that he became the star that he would become.
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.200
Based on this movie alone.
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.200
You know how he was cast, right?
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:58.640
Yeah, his he he honestly he so he showed up at the casting to support a buddy actor of his, Jackie Earl Haley, and he ended up getting noticed himself.
00:30:58.799 --> 00:30:59.039
Right.
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:06.640
And then so they they had several other actors they were considering for the movie, and Wes Craven asked his daughter, like, which one do you think we should pick?
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.880
And she's like, he's cute.
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:09.920
Right, right.
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.319
She's the one who kind of tipped the scale.
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:22.880
So the moral of the story is if you are an aspiring actor, don't bring a buddy to support you because they might get cast over you.
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:31.599
This is the second movie in a row we could tell the story because I I think the moral of the story is if you want to be an actor, you gotta be cute.
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.720
Or just be the buddy.
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.279
Yeah.
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.119
I'm just here to support my friend.
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:35.519
Right?
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.920
I'm not here for you'd be perfect, though.
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.279
Oh, but you're so dreamy.
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:40.559
I love that look.
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.319
I could see you someday playing a really drunk pirate.
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:45.759
Savvy.
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:48.880
But you have heard of me.
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.440
Do you know who else was offered this role?
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:54.079
Who?
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:55.599
Charlie Sheen.
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:56.559
No way.
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:02.240
Ah I could see that being the exact same character and doing the exact same thing.
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:03.119
Yeah, for sure.
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:07.920
It just Charlie Sheen would be itching his nose the whole time.
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.680
So when okay, when was Ferris Bueller?
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.160
Uh 86.
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:15.599
Oh, okay.
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.400
So he that was his film debut in 86?
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:19.200
Yeah.
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.400
Okay, so he would have started a couple years earlier had he gotten this role.
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.000
That is my understanding.
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:26.480
Okay.
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:27.920
Way to stick to it, Charlie.
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:28.559
Way to do it.
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:31.119
He fought to get there.
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:32.480
A couple years of nose?
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.559
Uh it's good stuff.
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:39.599
Uh yeah.
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.160
I don't think we need to go into like what else Johnny Depp's been in.
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:43.440
He's done some stuff.
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.880
He was in 21 Jump Street and then kind of just disappeared for a while.
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:48.640
Um Edward Scissorhands?
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.559
No one's ever heard from him again.
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:57.759
Uh he was also in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Sleepy Hollow, Pirates of the Caribbean, Charlie in the Chocolate Factory, and Sweeney Todd.
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.759
So the second half of his career, he's the same character a lot.
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:02.400
Pretty much.
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:02.720
Yeah.
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:08.000
Oh, you forgot uh Lone Ranger.
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:12.000
Did I forget that?
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:12.400
Yeah.
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.000
Maybe I'm just trying to.
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:15.440
Good call.
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:31.920
What I think is interesting though, if we these three big franchises, Nightmare in Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Halloween, all of them somehow in their in their debuts managed to create household names.
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:34.400
One per film.
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:34.880
Uh-huh.
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:36.799
You got Jamie Lee Curtis.
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:37.200
Uh-huh.
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:38.559
You got Johnny Depp.
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:39.200
Yep.
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.039
And Kevin Bacon.
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.000
Kevin Bacon.
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.839
And Friday the 13th, the original.
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:50.480
Apparently, you can connect him to any actor in Hollywood within six degrees.
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.599
That is true, though you are very terrible at it.
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.759
And I'm never going to ask you to do it again.
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:57.200
That's a good thing.
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:58.240
Thank God.
00:33:58.799 --> 00:33:59.359
Right.
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:00.319
Exactly.
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.240
Maloney Sandwich?
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:06.079
Alright, you ask me.
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:07.440
I can make that make sense.
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.280
Tina Gray, played by Amanda Wiss.
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:13.760
Maybe we're going to have a big earthquake.
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.239
They say things get really weird just before.
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.880
You're damn right, Tina.
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:24.400
Tina is Nancy's best friend and the first of the teenagers to experience Freddy's attacks.
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:35.199
She is frightened by her nightmares and becomes the film's first major victim, establishing that the threat is terrifyingly real.
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:44.239
I like it when movies introduce you to a character and you think this movie is going to be about that character, and then they kill that fucking character.
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:45.119
That's great, isn't it?
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:45.360
Yeah.
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.440
It makes you think, oh, that's the lead.
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:47.920
Nope.
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:48.880
She's dead first.
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:49.360
Yep.
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.079
I like that.
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:54.639
We because we didn't really get to know much about Tina because she dies pretty early.
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:55.280
She does.
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:56.960
And I think that's probably best.
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:58.880
Yeah, for sure.
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.960
She I she was not a strong actor by any means.
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.920
Now she had other roles under her belt.
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.840
She was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:08.559
Yeah, who was she?
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.119
She was Lisa, the love interest of Brad Hamilton, former bodiker winner.
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.239
Oh, yeah.
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.880
I hate that you called him former bodiker winner.
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:21.519
Well, honestly, he's still a bodiker winner because once a bodiker, always a bodiker.
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.440
Yeah, let's give him, you know, props where it's due.
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.280
But the easiest one to eliminate.
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:25.920
That's fine.
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.119
She was also in Better Off Dead and Silverado.
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.800
And just like Nancy Thompson, didn't like wearing a bra.
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:44.400
Now she was the one that I thought would show boobs?
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:45.840
Would show the boobs.
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:47.920
When she was banging rod.
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:48.559
Yeah.
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.360
I thought that they were gonna pop out at that point and they did.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.280
They were pretty good with covering that up.
00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:00.480
But what's the deal with 80s four movies and backlighting girls in nightgowns?
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:02.480
Artsiness.
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:02.960
Yeah.
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.639
It was artsy, all right.
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:11.119
Oh man.
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:13.519
Moving on.
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:14.239
Who's else?
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:18.079
Alright, next up is Rod Lane, played by Sue Garcia.
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.199
I had a heart on this morning when I woke up, Tina.
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:22.800
Your name written all over it.
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.559
There's four letters in my name, Rod.
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.880
How could there be room on your joint for four letters?
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.440
On your joint, she said.
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:38.159
Rod is Tina's boyfriend, a tough, skeptical teenager who initially dismisses the supernatural explanation.
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:45.599
He becomes a target himself and is forced to confront the possibility that something impossible is killing his friends.
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:47.679
He reminded me of a greaser.
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:48.719
Yeah, we can see that.
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.000
Yeah, absolutely.
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:58.320
And maybe that is why I was all for this guy dying as fast as possible.
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:00.239
I was waiting for it.
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.800
Yeah, I didn't I didn't like him as a character.
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:06.239
So you had Johnny Depp was a soche.
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.800
Oh yeah, he's Johnny Depp is a so sh and is a greaser.
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.199
And they even had a little like tussle in the backyard.
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:16.000
Right, right.
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.519
If only there was rain.
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:18.880
There should have been rain.
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:20.480
For a couple shots, but not all of them.
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.000
Not every one of them.
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.480
So I recognized this guy.
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:25.119
Did you?
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.880
I did, but I don't know from where.
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:29.360
Well, he was also in the movie Gotcha.
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.719
Wildcats.
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:31.280
Wait a minute.
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:32.320
Gotcha.
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:32.960
Gotcha.
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:33.679
That's what I know of.
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:34.800
Was that the gun game?
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:35.199
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:35.920
That's the gun game.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:36.159
Yeah.
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:36.400
Yeah.
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:41.119
He was uh with the the guy who was uh yeah in that one movie.
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:42.960
My dad had one of those gotcha guns.
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.239
Oh, that's awesome a long time ago.
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:53.920
Yeah, he was he was Manolo, the little gotcha, the little paint things dried out and he shot me with it and he just hurt like hell instead of like splattering.
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:54.639
Nice.
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.360
But there's a few other things you might have seen him in.
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:02.880
He was in traffic, we were soldiers, collateral damage, and along came Polly.
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:08.800
The acting in this movie wasn't as bad as a lot of the movies that we saw and have talked about.
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.760
But there was a a number of moments where you could tell they were trying to act.
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:14.159
Yeah.
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.000
And I thought that was pretty terrible.
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:17.920
Like it kind of took takes you out of it a little bit.
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:24.559
And I think this all has to go back to you have to you have to take this with a grain of salt because you go back to that 1.8 million.
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:24.960
Yeah.
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.119
And you know they're running on a shoestring budget, running and gunning.
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:29.440
Yeah.
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.360
And you can only get so much.
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.119
So the shortcomings on acting on a low-budget film, I'm usually somewhat forgiving of.
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:37.679
Right.
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.679
It's whether the act the writing and all that and the effects and everything else balance it out.
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:44.079
Sure.
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.519
Well, a lot of times good writing can cover for poor acting.
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:53.119
But the writing for some of these kids anyway, and honestly, some of the adults too.
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:54.480
Well it was pretty cardboard.
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.519
Well, and and that's the problem you get when adults write for kids.
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:58.000
Yeah.
00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:58.800
You know?
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.079
It's like, oh, that's that's how I think teenagers should act.
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:03.119
Not how they really act.
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.519
And whoever called a penis a joint?
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:07.519
I will from now on.
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:08.719
I'm going to.
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:10.239
That's my joint.
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:11.199
Huh.
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.119
It gives a new meaning to spike Lee joint.
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.159
A new meaning to you want to smoke a joint.
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:18.639
Oh.
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:20.559
It sure does.
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.960
I mean, what you do on your own time is your business.
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:23.840
Whatever you want to do.
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:24.960
Love is love.
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:25.440
It is.
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:25.679
Yeah.
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:26.159
It is.
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:26.559
All right.
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:27.440
Who else we got?
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.360
Next up, I have Donald Thompson, played by John Saxon.
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.440
Just move away from us, son.
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.199
Real easy, like your ass depended on it.
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:44.400
Donald's Nancy's father, a police lieutenant investigating the mysterious deaths.
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:52.960
He tries to protect his daughter through conventional police work while his own buried history with Freddy becomes increasingly important.
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.840
This guy was not in contention for Father of the Year.
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:56.079
No.
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:56.559
At all.
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:04.159
You know, it's hard to be like the chief of police and a part-time dad, I would think.
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.079
Well, he's not the chief, he's a lieutenant.
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:07.440
He's he's like a detective.
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:14.559
But what is it with with these horror film girls having police officer dads?
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:15.679
Right, right.
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.360
That's that's a convenient uh tie-in, I think.
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:20.480
It's easy to do.
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:21.519
Yeah, it is, yeah.
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.480
But I I this is another person in this movie that I recognized.
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:24.960
Yeah?
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:25.199
Yeah.
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:26.320
Any idea we're from?
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:26.719
Nope.
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.639
Uh could have been the Appaloosa.
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:29.199
Nope.
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:30.320
Enter the Dragon.
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:30.800
Maybe.
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.000
Black Christmas.
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:32.559
Nope.
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:34.559
Battle Beyond the Stars.
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:35.119
No.
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.679
Beverly H uh Beverly Hills Cop 3?
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:38.880
Absolutely.
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.000
I'm gonna be honest with you, I've not seen a single one of those.
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:45.599
Really?
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:46.320
Not a single one.
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:47.920
Did you see the first Beverly Hills Cop?
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:48.239
Yeah.
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:48.880
Oh that's good.
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:50.000
Axelfoley.
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.000
Yeah, but I've never seen any of the other ones.
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:52.480
Okay.
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.559
But this guy appeared opposite Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon.
00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.039
Yeah.
00:40:59.599 --> 00:40:59.840
Yeah.
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.639
This guy.
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:01.360
This guy?
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:01.840
This guy.
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:03.119
With a comb over?
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:03.360
Yeah.
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.920
He he was he was a he was a stud in that movie.
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:06.800
Was he really?
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:07.440
Yeah.
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.440
Yeah, this guy's got some skills.
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:10.239
I don't see it.
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.159
And his name's just Donald Thompson.
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:13.360
Like such a boring name.
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:13.679
Right.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:14.719
Skills at what?
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.159
Absentee fathering?
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.440
Skills of not getting there in time.
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.519
I can see why they're divorced, though.
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.119
He's married to his job.
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:25.679
Right?
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.599
Well, he's I can see why he's divorced because he was married to his ex-wife.
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:32.800
Well, I'm guessing is next.
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.960
She's my last on my list.
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.679
Marge Thompson, played by Ronnie Blakely.
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.159
Nancy, you are going to get some sleep tonight if it kills me.
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:46.400
Maybe it will.
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:47.199
It might.
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:53.760
Alright, so Marge is Nancy's mother, an alcoholic who knows more about Freddie than she initially admits.
00:41:53.920 --> 00:42:02.079
She carries the guilt and fear of the parents who killed Freddie while trying imperfectly to keep Nancy safe.
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.800
She was actually nominated for an Oscar.
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:05.360
Yeah.
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:06.559
Not for this movie, right?
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:16.320
So yeah, she uh was uh in Robert Altman's Nashville.
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.559
She won uh the Acad or got nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress.
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:29.199
She got nominated for the Golden Globe and also nominated for a BAFTA award, all for that performance.
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.199
So she never saw it.
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:31.920
You guys?
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:32.400
No.
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:41.519
Now she also appeared in The Driver in 1978 and toured as a backing vocalist with Bob Dylan's Rolling Thunder review.
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:42.320
No, couldn't.
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:42.880
Huh.
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:51.920
So Nancy's drunken mom was played by an Oscar name uh Oscar nominated actress who toured with Bob Fucking Dylan.
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:52.880
Interesting.
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:53.920
That's cool.
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:55.199
I never would have guessed.
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:57.519
No, not one bit.
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.039
Not one bit.
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.239
Because this also was not a mother of the year contender.
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:03.760
Now it is interesting, though.
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:10.320
We actually have a movie, a slasher film with parents.
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:11.920
Yeah, we have parents.
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:12.639
That is odd.
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:13.840
Holy cow, we have parents.
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.480
Yeah.
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:15.199
What the fuck?
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:16.480
It was crazy.
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.639
Which is infinitely better than most.
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.880
It is, but even though they were present, there were absolutely no help whatsoever.
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:23.280
For sure.
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.239
There was actually a lot of parents in this movie.
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:27.519
There was a lot of adults.
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.480
They had a parent.
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:29.760
There was parents across the street.
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:38.079
Tina had a mom that showed up before, you know, for a moment, but had to go back to the bedroom to go shagger weirdo, you know, whatever that was.
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:39.679
You're coming back to bed.
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:48.000
Like what a weird thing to say in your wife's ear, whenever, or your girlfriend's ear, or whatever, while she's talking to her daughter in her bedroom at nighttime.
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:49.119
You're coming back to bed.
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.280
I mean, the eighties were a different time.
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.800
But but yeah, Marge was a souse.
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:55.920
She was souse.
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:56.880
Very drunk.
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:57.760
All the time.
00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:58.880
All the time.
00:43:59.119 --> 00:43:59.760
Always had a bottle.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.039
Hidden somewhere in the house.
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.840
Who hides booze in the linen closet?
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.199
Only a true alcoholic would have to be.
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:07.840
Yeah, apparently.
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:08.559
What was she drinking?
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.079
Well, maybe it looked like vodka.
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:10.800
Was it vodka?
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:11.679
I would assume.
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:19.360
Maybe Nancy has a hygiene thing, and she knew the last place she would look is the place that she keeps the towels.
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.519
I don't think so because she she did take a bath.
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:27.199
Maybe that was the one bath we saw her in, though.
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:29.039
Maybe she only takes one every once in a while.
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:30.400
And she didn't do well at that.
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.599
No, she did not.
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:32.639
She almost died.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:32.880
Yeah.
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.000
Taking a bath.
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:41.039
She was March was very concerned about the fatal potential of bathing.
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:52.079
Well, now that we've talked about all the people who are in this movie, let's talk about the second beer of the podcast.
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:52.719
Yes.
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.239
This was a pick of Brian.
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.800
So, Brian, tell us what you brought.
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:02.159
I I brought Cali Squeeze.
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:03.360
Cali squeeze.
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.199
It's a citrus sweet ale and it is called Blood Orange.
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:07.760
Oh.
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:09.920
Because of all the blood in the movie.
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:11.119
I thought it related.
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.280
It's squeezed in California.
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.280
Yeah, Cali Squeeze.
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.519
So I've I've had this before on tap.
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.519
And I thought it was a refreshing, great summer beer.
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:22.000
Uh-huh.
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:23.679
But it's a little different than a can.
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:26.559
It is very seltzer-like.
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:31.920
If you had not told me this was a beer, I would not know that it was a beer.
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:32.480
Right.
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:32.880
Right.
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:34.559
I would think it was a seltzer.
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:40.159
I honestly, this this my first sip is like, did you slip me a big red?
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:43.440
It is very orangey.
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:43.840
It is.
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:45.519
It is very sweet.
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:46.159
Very.
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.480
And it is very, very bubbly.
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:49.440
Yep.
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:50.239
Yeah.
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:51.679
I mean, I'll drink it.
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:52.559
I don't hate it.
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:52.880
No.
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:54.239
We've had bubblier.
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:55.599
A few.
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:56.000
Yeah.
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:57.679
Somewhere along the way.
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:02.559
But yeah, I'm a little bummed out because it's not as good as it was on draft.
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:03.440
It's not bad.
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:05.199
I will finish this can.
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.440
Uh, I won't buy it ever.
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:09.440
But it's drinkable.
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.840
Yeah, I went ahead and took care of that.
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.840
Brewed by Firestone Walker.
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:24.719
I have not had very good experiences with Firestone Walker beers.
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:25.440
Yeah.
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.440
Well, add this to the list.
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:29.280
I'm good at it.
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.960
I'm gonna add this to my not a great experience list.
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:38.880
You know, if you come across Cali Squeeze and they have it on tap, it's worth a try.
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:39.840
It's pretty darn good.
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:41.519
I think my wife would love this beer.
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:42.000
Really?
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:46.000
But out of a can, um that doesn't really light my lamp.
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:46.480
Yeah.
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:47.280
Yeah.
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:48.559
Alright.
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:49.679
Well, there's that.
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:50.639
It is what it is.
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:51.519
Now we know.
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:53.840
Oh no, I suck again.
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:57.119
It's not a goza.
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:58.639
That's true.
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.159
So it's got that going for it, which is nice.
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:07.119
Well, what do you guys say we get into the nitty-gritty of a nightmare on Elmstrom?
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.079
Let's dig into this thing.
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:09.199
Do it to it.
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.119
Well, we start things off with uh the the credits rolling.
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:26.320
And uh while the credits are rolling, we get close-up views of hands manufacturing the famed Freddy glove, followed by a quick title hit, and then we jump headfirst into the action.
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:27.679
I thought that was cool.
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:28.159
Yeah.
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.079
I thought the making of the glove was pretty neat opener.
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:32.960
It was.
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:38.960
My only complaint about it was it was overly intentional on the hand.
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:40.079
You know what I mean?
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.800
Like they were it was so slow and unnatural the way they were moving.
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.599
They really wanted you to notice what they were doing.
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:47.920
Yeah.
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.320
And I think you would have got it regardless.
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.960
Like you didn't have to go so slow.
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.719
Well, you know, and I had to remind myself this is the first movie of the franchise.
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:03.199
And I had to remind myself that nobody really knew about the glove yet.
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:03.840
True.
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:04.639
That is true.
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.800
So I thought if I put myself in those shoes, it was pretty cool.
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:09.920
Yeah, I could say that.
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:10.320
Yeah.
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:11.840
I I think that's a good point.
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:20.000
I thought it was a kind of a fun an interesting way to kind of see that moment of it coming into fruition.
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.440
Something that would become, you know, iconic.
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:24.239
I yeah.
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:24.800
Yeah.
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.400
I mean, I I th I mean what was manufactured, I don't in the parts that he had on the table.
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.639
I don't think match was what was being made, but that's me picking knits.
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:35.440
Picking knit.
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:36.320
Picking knits.
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:43.039
I I mean I thought it was kind of a cool way to kind of get into what was about to happen.
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:44.000
Yeah, I agree.
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:50.800
What I do like though, is after that quick title hit, we there's no delay.
00:48:51.039 --> 00:49:00.719
We are straight into Tina wandering through a grimy dark hallway um while a sheep runs by.
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.360
What what what was with the sheep?
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:05.440
I I I even had that thought.
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:06.000
Right.
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:07.920
Like, is there a significance there?
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:09.199
Yeah, why is there a sheep?
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.559
I in my mind, it's like a sheep being led to the slaughter.
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:13.039
Okay.
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.159
So maybe that was or maybe, or innocence.
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:21.280
I mean, sheep can there's many, you know, parallels you could draw.
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:22.239
Symbolism.
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:23.199
Yeah.
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:24.000
Okay.
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:24.880
But there was a sheep.
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:25.199
Yep.
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.880
They were being a little artsy fartsy.
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.280
And followed by a creepy voice calling out her name, Dina.
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:33.440
Yeah.
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:35.840
That that's pretty pretty spot on there, Seth.
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:36.159
Yeah.
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.000
That's probably your best impression of the show.
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.440
Now I gotta ask.
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:41.280
It's because there wasn't an accent.
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:46.960
In this, in this moment, she's wearing, we don't know it's a nightmare.
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:47.519
We just see her.
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.280
Like again, I'm just gonna put myself if the first time ever seeing this.
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:51.840
Yeah.
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.280
She's in a nightgown.
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:57.119
Well, just like every other 80s horror flick, it was backlit.
00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:57.519
Uh-huh.
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.159
She's wearing a white nightgown, no bra.
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:00.800
Uh-huh.
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.119
You see the silhouette of her body underneath.
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.320
That's kind of a kind of a horror movie trope, isn't it?
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:07.199
I yeah, I would say.
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:07.760
Yeah.
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:22.159
Well, trope or not, uh, Tina makes her way into a labyrinth of a boiler room and encounters a horribly burned man wearing a red and green sweater and a glove fitted with razor blades.
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:26.159
So I will I will say it was a great location.
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:26.639
Yeah.
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:27.119
Right?
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:33.519
Like every like set design, every location they chose in this movie was pretty darn amazing.
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:35.360
It reminded me of the steel mill.
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:35.760
Oh.
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:37.599
The basement of the steel mill.
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.079
Yeah.
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:39.119
Specifically.
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:46.320
But I also noticed at this point the music was a bit synth-heavy.
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:47.599
It was a horror film.
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:48.000
Sure.
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.079
And that's one of my major observations of the film.
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:58.880
I thought the score in the background music was great.
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.519
Except for when they used the synthesizer.
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:01.920
Right.
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:02.400
Yeah.
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:03.679
It kind of took you out of it.
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:08.960
It wasn't it like it made I know I remember we talked shit about or at least I did Halloween.
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:10.800
About Halloween and how it got old.
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:13.760
But it wasn't a synthesizer.
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:22.719
And I would have taken the John Carpenter Halloween theme over the synthesizer music throughout this movie.
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.519
It was like somebody was sitting behind a Casio 800 and just mashing keys.
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:28.079
Right.
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.960
So you you mentioned the location of the boiler room.
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:31.360
Uh-huh.
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.519
So that was uh they did a lot of the filming, all these Freddie Dream sequences in an old jailhouse.
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:38.480
Oh, no kidding.
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:40.800
Yeah, an old jailhouse that wasn't being used anymore.
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.400
They found it, and it's like this space is fucking perfect.
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:44.880
Yeah.
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:46.239
Creepy AF.
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:47.760
And I gotta say, it was.
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:48.000
Yeah.
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.000
Yeah, it was a great, great location.
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.000
Hit the nail on the head on that one.
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:58.480
But uh Freddie stalks uh Tina and eventually attacks her from behind.
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.079
She screams, but it turns out it was just a nightmare.
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.639
And Tina wakes screaming in bed.
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:16.880
Her mother comes into the room and notices four mysterious slashes in Tina's nightgown, and she offers some valuable advice before closing the door.
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.519
I'm so glad you played that because I wrote it down because I was like, man, that's hilarious.
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:29.679
Great parenting.
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:31.360
Sound advice, mom.
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:42.639
But this moment, the fact that Tina has slashes in her nightgowns immediately establishes the premise that things from nightmares can cross over into reality.
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:43.119
Yep.
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:44.719
Yeah, it really set the tone.
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.079
It set the tone well.
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:52.559
The next morning, Tina is telling her friend Nancy and Glenn about the nightmare.
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.559
Um, and they're she's very freaked out about it.
00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:00.639
We also meet uh, you know, her boyfriend Rod.
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:01.440
Uh Rob?
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:01.920
Rob?
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:02.639
Rod.
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:04.960
Rod Rod Lane.
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:05.599
Dick.
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:06.320
Yep.
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.920
Who uh, you know, had a heart on with her name on it.
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:11.039
Her name on it.
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:14.480
Um reminds me of a joke.
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:15.760
But I'll tell you later.
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:16.480
All right.
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:24.719
She's so freaked out about these nightmares that that she wants doesn't want to sleep alone, and her mom's gone out of town for some reason.
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:40.079
Uh, and so she has Nancy and Glenn stay over, and you know, Glenn, you know, has to you know provide a cover story for for staying there, and so he calls his mom while playing a sound effects tape uh of the airport, which turns into drag racing and gunfire.
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:40.639
Yeah.
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:42.960
It's a nice fun little moment.
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.360
It is, but it's a throwaway, right?
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:45.679
Yeah.
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:59.920
Because uh what really comes down to it, the important part, is Nancy and Tina are talking about the nightmare, and then suddenly they come to the realization It's the same one, they had the same dream.
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:01.599
What'd you dream?
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.960
I dreamed about a guy in a dirty red and green sweater.
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.119
What about the fingernails?
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.679
Oh, he scraped his fingernails along things.
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.960
Actually, they were more like finger knives or something.
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:18.800
Something he'd made himself.
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.119
They made a horrible sound.
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.039
Scream Nancy.
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:26.159
You dream.
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.800
You see, that background music right there is pretty good.
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:29.360
Yeah.
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:30.480
That's not bad.
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:31.679
No, that's good stuff.
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:32.719
Not bad at all.
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.360
So they're having the same nightmares.
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:35.840
Oh no.
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.000
Okay, and that was one of my issues with this movie.
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:43.840
So a lot of these teenagers are having these nightmares with the same character in them.
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:44.480
Uh-huh.
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:51.119
They really don't come together and join their stories together very coherently.
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:56.480
Well, a lot of I mean, I think that that comes down to the fact that you don't always remember your dreams.
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.639
Probably not even always your nightmares.
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:00.480
Well, they remember those.
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.440
But it Nancy didn't remember or right away.
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:10.000
It had to kind of jog that moment, you know, and something's like, oh, you they were talking about the fingernails, and they're like, oh, you mentioned the fingernails.
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:14.159
That just reminded me I had a dream about a guy with fingernails.
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:20.400
Well, Flash Forward and Rod mentioned that he had the same character in his dreams.
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:24.239
But they they were never really forthcoming in in I don't know.
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:25.679
I thought I just thought that was weird.
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.119
I thought it was too ambiguous.
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:32.480
Yeah, and I and I get why you might not talk to all your friends about the weird dreams you had.
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:40.480
But if one of you is talking about I had a really weird dream about this guy, it seems like it took a little while for everyone to realize, you know what?
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:41.519
I did too.
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:42.639
Yeah.
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:44.079
I know that guy.
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.599
Tina's boyfriend, Rod Lane, shows up uninvited.
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:48.000
Yep.
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:49.199
And he's a douche.
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:55.039
Uh but despite him being a douche, Tina and Rod head upstairs to have some sex.
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:56.079
They make up.
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.159
Apparently they were boyfriend, girlfriend, and they were fighting.
00:55:58.800 --> 00:55:59.360
They made up.
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.000
They made up.
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:00.239
Yeah.
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:06.880
Nancy and Glenn remain downstairs and they're stuck listening to Rod and Tina's obnoxiously performative banging.
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:15.679
After which Tina falls asleep and then uh finds herself back in Freddie's nightmare world.
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:24.800
Uh Freddie stalking her through the neighborhood, and and we get shots of Freddy stretching his arms wide, the iconic shot.
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:33.360
If you haven't seen this movie, you've probably seen this shot of Freddy with the super wide arms and the fingernails scratching against the dumpsters.
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:35.119
This is so bad it's good.
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:35.679
Exactly.
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:36.800
It really is.
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:38.239
If you look at it, it's cheese.
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:40.559
I thought it was so bad it was bad.
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:50.320
I wish, okay, so if I could redo that scene, uh-huh, I would have started with his arms not like slinkies.
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.960
I would have rather seen it extend out.
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:58.960
But they did, but when they started though, you could tell howppy they were.
00:56:59.920 --> 00:57:02.079
I don't think it was needed at all.
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:03.920
It was just the surrealism of it.
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:13.440
He was scary enough without having to extend his weird arms in a very I think it was I think it was like just the dream part of it.
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.840
They were trying to bring the surrealism of dreams into this thing to where it's like I can understand that.
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.239
This is wacky, you know, like it's weird shit that happens in dreams.
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:34.079
But when it started, they were like it was like if you took like a jump rope and you you brought them together instead of being real long and taut, and there's like that big loop.
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.679
Yeah, there was the big loops on the side, and it made it look pretty cheesy.
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:46.400
Like if they could have figured out a way to make him be like regular arms with his arms out, and then they just started to grow, you know, like that would have been a whole lot better.
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:49.360
It's not the worst thing I've ever seen in movies, though.
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:50.800
But it was one of my favorite scenes.
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.920
Yeah, I mean, it was it was definitely it's so bad, it's good.
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:59.440
So my wife was out of the room when it happened, and I paused it and rewind it, and I was like, You gotta watch this.
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:01.840
This is my absolute favorite part of this movie.
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:06.559
What I love though is right after this, Freddie starts chasing her.
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:17.760
The way he runs, the way he runs, it looked like Brian when we we made uh lovesick, and he's he was dressed a clown with the giant clown shoes running through the woods.
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.840
In my defense, it's really hard to run in clown shoes.
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:25.519
It is, and he didn't have them on.
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.440
I don't know why he was running this way.
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:29.760
It was the weirdest run I've ever seen.
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:30.960
Like he had a load in his pants.
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:44.960
When I read Robert England made a choice because the weight had the glove had a weight to it, and so he tried to move, make all his movements that exemplified and amplified the weight of that glove.
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:51.760
Because he's like, this thing's gonna change the way you have to move if you want to do these things, and so he tried to build that in.
00:58:51.920 --> 00:59:01.360
But in this moment, it's it's just bizarre and hilarious in a way, but still creepy as fuck.
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:02.800
Like he shouldn't have though.
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.440
Like you're a dream demon, like you don't need to worry about the weight of the glove, right?
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:11.199
Like oh, my arms just extended, and I gotta poop really bad.
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:21.519
Right before this, you your face and your hands were coming through a wall, like making it feel like the wall was made out of a balloon.
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:25.360
That wasn't explained, like you know, like you know what I mean?
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:29.440
Like, there's so many things that you couldn't explain in this that happen.
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.880
Like, you don't need to like weigh the weight of the glove.
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:34.000
Come on now, yeah.
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.719
Uh, but at least we get a killer who runs.
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:38.320
That's true.
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:43.039
We see him move instead of just like appearing, instead of just lumbering and just showing up, he runs.
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:53.360
And I also love the fact that we he clearly, because this is a dreamscape, he has control of the environment, and and we see him magically appear from behind a tree.
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:55.039
I thought that was cool.
00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:00.800
I mean, a very simple camera trick the way they did it, simple editing trick, but it's kind of cool.
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:01.840
Yeah, it was neat.
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.880
And and he just shows up, he can make himself appear anywhere.
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:11.920
You see, I thought that alone would have sold the dream sequence without having the goofy arms.
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.639
I could see that, but man, I do love those arms.
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:26.719
Um, you know, and then he's uh I you we get another moment where he's like, Look at this, and he slices his own fingers off, and it looks like it sprays out motor oil when he does.
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:29.519
Something not blood.
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:30.239
He's a demon.
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:30.559
Yeah.
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.360
He's not he doesn't have human blood.
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:35.760
The blood in this movie was not very blood-like.
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:37.039
No, it was not.
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.920
Um watch make up my fingers off.
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.960
There was one point where the blood was really blood-like.
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.440
That's when it was dripping through the ceiling.
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:46.079
Oh, yeah.
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:47.840
That looked like real blood.
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:50.159
I thought it was kind of runny, but well, yeah.
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:52.239
The blood in the bedroom was runny.
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:52.719
Oh, yeah.
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.840
But the blood dripping from the ceiling was nice and thick enough.
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:59.039
The blood when it first started to come out of the bed looked real.
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:00.800
And it started hitting the ceiling.
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:01.199
Uh-huh.
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:03.599
But after a while, it was so pink.
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.599
Yeah, I was like, is the Kool-Aid man right?
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:06.559
Exactly.
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:09.039
Oh no.
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:15.280
Um Freddie and Tina struggle, and Tina rips Freddie's face off.
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:24.960
And in non-nightmare land, uh, Rod is watching helplessly as Tina is being slashed and mauled by an invisible attacker.
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:33.519
This was a cool scene.
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:34.079
Yeah.
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:34.880
I liked it.
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:36.880
I liked the levitation off the bed.
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.039
I liked how she was like thrown against the wall, and then they pulled up the wall and across the ceiling.
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.440
And how she flipped around and hit him into the corner.
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:43.679
Right.
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:45.360
So he couldn't see anymore.
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:45.840
Yeah.
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:51.519
We've seen this kind of effect in Poltergeist, where it was the room on a gimbal that rotated.
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:51.920
Yeah.
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.039
And we saw it with mom being drug up along the wall.
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.199
It's the same basic idea here.
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.280
Uh they both had upskirts.
01:01:59.360 --> 01:01:59.519
Yeah.
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:00.400
Well.
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:08.559
And so, you know, we have a rotating room, and Nancy or Tina is being rotated around the room screaming and all this, and then she dies.
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:09.119
Yep.
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:22.719
And I also thought it was pretty cool how they did the like the giant, like when she got cut with nothing showing, like there was nothing cutting her, but she was still like being cut over showing the wounds.
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:22.880
Yeah.
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:23.119
Yeah.
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:25.440
I thought they did some pretty neat stuff with that kind of thing.
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:26.559
That was pretty cool.
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:30.559
We see Rod in the room at this time, wearing nothing but his tidy whiteys.
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:32.880
Remember that.
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:33.440
Yep.
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:39.440
Uh, because uh he's terrified and he knows how guilty he looks, so he runs away, he bolts.
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:42.400
And Nancy and Glenn bust into the room.
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:48.639
Rod is gone, but Tina's mutilated body is is there, lying on the floor next to the bed.
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:50.000
There's a lot of blood everywhere.
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:58.000
So Rod, of course, becomes number one suspect, particularly with uh Lieutenant Don Thompson, who is Nancy's father.
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.159
Um, and police are focusing their efforts on finding Rod.
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:06.880
Now Nancy says it wasn't him, uh, but her dad is less convinced.
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:13.599
And while he is convinced that Rod is a murderer, he chooses to use his own daughter as bait to capture him.
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:15.119
Yeah.
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:19.280
He sure did.
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:20.639
He sure did.
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:30.639
And sure enough, Rod grabs Nancy while she is walking to school and pulls her into the woods, just like any non-murderer would do.
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:36.079
I never touched him.
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:38.320
You were screaming like crazy.
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:40.159
There was somebody else there.
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.559
The door was locked from your side.
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.840
Don't look at me like I'm some fucking food cake or something.
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:47.199
I'm warning you.
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:50.400
Warning you, food cake or something.
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:52.800
What are you warning her about?
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.920
Rod was in his tidy whiteies.
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:56.559
He was.
01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:00.639
He had a bolt, but he could grab his jeans and his leather jacket.
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.639
Because in this scene, he was wearing what he was wearing that night before he stripped down to his tidy whites.
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:07.039
Right.
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:08.880
Except for he didn't have on shoes.
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:09.280
Right.
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:10.000
And no shirt.
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:10.800
Fuck shoes.
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:12.960
And fuck shoes at your stance.
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:13.280
Right?
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:15.119
No shirt, no shoes.
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:16.159
No shirt.
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:18.239
Leather jacket and jeans.
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:18.960
Yep.
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.760
He's not going to get served at McDonald's.
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:22.159
No.
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:25.119
But he will get served by the cops.
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:25.920
By the cops.
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:30.559
Because Dad shows up with a gun, as do a bunch of other police officers.
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:37.760
Rod tries running away in his jeans and a leather jacket, but doesn't get very far and he gets arrested.
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:41.280
At school, Nancy is exhausted.
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:42.559
Rightfully so.
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:43.119
Long night.
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:45.920
Some sleepless nights or sleepless night.
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:47.679
Because I guess this is the same day.
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:48.320
Yeah.
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:49.440
This is the next day.
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:56.239
While she's sitting in class listening to Julius Caesar being recited by some douchebag in front of the classroom.
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:57.760
Hard not to fall asleep to that.
01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:58.719
Absolutely.
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:03.199
Um she slips into a nightmare where she sees Tina in a body bag.
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:04.559
I thought that was pretty cool.
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:05.440
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:07.119
Are body bags clear?
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:07.760
They're not.
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:09.840
But it was a cool visual effect.
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.079
Yeah.
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:10.559
Yeah.
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.800
And they don't leave that blood trail.
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.320
And also, it was a neat choice for them.
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:21.760
The guy that was just standing in the front of the room reciting from the book in his normal voice.
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:24.000
And then it goes into that kind of a whisper.
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:24.559
Uh-huh.
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:25.920
That was fucking creepy.
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:26.239
Yeah.
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:26.480
Yeah.
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.159
And it was a really cool touch.
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:31.360
It was one of those things to show that, okay, now she's in the dream sequence.
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:31.920
Mm-hmm.
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:36.800
Because sometimes there were not a whole lot of clues between real world and the dream.
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:37.199
Yeah.
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:38.880
So it kind of left it up to the viewer.
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.440
And I think that ambiguity heightens.
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:49.599
Are you telling me that her talking to her dead friend in a body bag was not enough of a tell that she was in the dream world?
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:58.239
I'm saying that there are some examples through the movie where you didn't know immediately if it was real or dream.
01:05:58.480 --> 01:05:59.920
Do you talk to a lot of dead people in body bags?
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:01.039
Body bags?
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:02.880
Did they talk to you?
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:06.000
You don't know what I dreamed of.
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:16.400
I liked whenever she goes out in the hallway and sees Tina's body bag corpse down the hallway.
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:16.960
Oh, yeah.
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:21.039
And then sees like the feet lift up and then be dragged along, dragged away.
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:22.000
Nothing was there.
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:26.960
But nothing was there other than the giant friggin' mop smear of blood.
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:27.440
Yeah.
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:28.639
The snail trail.
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:29.119
Yeah.
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:33.280
That's like those are those little things in this movie that I thought were really impressive.
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:35.360
Yeah, there were some things that were really, really well done.
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:37.119
And that's one of them.
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:43.199
You know, and then she runs around the hallway, and this another moment, small thing, but I thought was clever.
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:44.880
She runs into the hall monitor.
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.079
He was like, you know, tells her, you know, no hall pass or whatever.
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:49.199
Wearing a red and green sweater.
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:50.320
Red and green sweater.
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:57.679
And then as she runs away, he's like, Nancy, you forgot your hall pass in Freddy's voice.
01:06:57.760 --> 01:06:57.840
Yeah.
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.719
But now with the glove, but it's the same female character who was it was a moment ago.
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:11.039
My only question though is like when she like why did the girl No running in the halls have a bloody nose?
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:12.239
Did you notice that?
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:13.199
Yeah, I did notice that.
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:14.480
Like, where did that come from?
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:16.800
Like, I don't know.
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:19.199
Maybe there's more backstory.
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:21.679
Was it when she bumped into her?
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:22.400
Could be.
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:22.880
Maybe.
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:23.599
Yeah, I don't know.
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:24.400
But I I don't know.
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:26.719
I I just caught it and I was like, why does she have a bloody nose?
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:28.159
That's because it's a horror movie.
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:29.920
You gotta have blood in every scene.
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:30.480
Heck yeah.
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:31.119
Heck yeah.
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:31.920
All right.
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:39.199
So Nancy follows the the snail trail down into Freddy's boiler room of doom.
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:41.599
Boiler room of doom.
01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:50.320
Uh there, Freddie pursues her, but not before playfully slicing his nipple open, revealing that he has a maggot moob.
01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:51.920
A maggot moob.
01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:55.199
That was he sure does like cutting himself.
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:57.920
I'm gonna chop my fingers off.
01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.280
I'm gonna cut my chest open.
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:00.719
He's a creature of dreams.
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:02.639
He can do whatever he wants.
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:07.679
Uh Nancy realized she needs to wake herself up.
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:12.800
Um and so she deliberately burns her arm on a hot pipe.
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:16.960
And then wakes up in the classroom screaming with a burn mark on her arm.
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.920
Yeah, the burn is still on her arm.
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.039
I like how the burn mark came back from her dream.
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:26.720
The thing that bothered me though was it was in the wrong spot.
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:35.359
Whenever she put her arm on it, it was the bottom of her arm, and the mark was on like the inside, like the top of it.
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:37.439
And I was like, eh, okay.
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:38.800
Now you're splitting hairs.
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:43.039
She could have just looked at her elbow and been like, oh shit, I have a burn mark there.
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:45.920
But instead she was like, oh no, the inside of my arm.
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:47.680
It's just something I saw.
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:48.880
Something I noticed.
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.600
Well, which brings up another question.
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:57.199
If pain wakes you up, how come the people didn't wake up when they were being killed?
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:58.800
That had hurt.
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.000
I mean when your belly gets sliced open.
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:07.760
It'd be like, ooh, I'm awake now.
01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:09.359
Maybe she was after that though.
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:13.920
Maybe she was awake whenever she got sliced open, like on the bed.
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.239
Because that happened in real life.
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:17.680
Right?
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.119
Like Tina's in the dream world manifests in the real world.
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:26.640
So Tina was actually being cut on her belly and she was bleeding out everywhere.
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:30.720
She may have been awake whenever she was getting drug out the wall and the ceiling.
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:36.000
But if she was awake, then the effects on her would stop.
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:37.119
I don't think so.
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.720
There are other moments where I feel like the rules of the film get bent.
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:40.960
Right.
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:43.119
So let's table this for a moment.
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:52.720
Um, Nancy goes to visit Rod in jail, and Rod describes Tina being attacked by something he he just couldn't quite see.
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:54.720
You could get a look at him.
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.680
Well then how do you know that somebody else was there?
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.840
Because somebody cut her while I watched.
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:07.760
And you didn't get a look at him.
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:10.000
You couldn't even see the fucker.
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:15.119
You could just see cuts happening.
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:17.279
All at once.
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.680
What do you mean all at once?
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:29.520
I mean it was as if there were four razors cutting at the same time.
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.920
There's some things technically about this scene that drove me goddamn insane.
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:37.520
Tell me about it.
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:42.159
Visually, each shot is beautiful.
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:51.520
But each shot has the shadow of the bars over the actor's face.
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:54.960
The shadows go both directions.
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:56.720
It should probably only be on one person's.
01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:58.720
It should probably only be on one person's.
01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:07.439
Then because I am an audio nerd above all other nerdoms when it comes to film.
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:14.880
Every crinkle of his leather jacket made me want to punch someone.
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:15.760
Oh, okay.
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.920
Yeah, I noticed that too.
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:19.600
And I get it.
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:22.399
They're running, gunning, making this fast.
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:31.119
They're audio, they probably weren't using ADR, and it was definitely probably just a dude with the sound pole in a room while he was wearing a leather jacket.
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:36.319
But also, if you're in jail, why are they letting you wear your leather jacket anyway?
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:38.000
Because he didn't have a shirt.
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.920
But don't they usually give you a shirt?
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:43.359
I I don't know.
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:44.640
I've never been arrested.
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:46.720
Maybe not in a local jail.
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:51.520
I think while you're in holding initially, you're probably kept in what you had came in with.
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:51.920
Yeah.
01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:52.960
Well, he had a shirt on.
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:55.359
They take your belt and shoes, probably.
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:56.880
He had a shirt on later.
01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:59.439
He had a white t-shirt on in jail.
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.399
But they still let him have his leather jacket.
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:04.560
It was when he was getting hung.
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:04.880
Yeah.
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:06.720
He had a le he had a white t-shirt on.
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:07.520
Oh, that's true.
01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.520
Yeah, awfully generous of them.
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:11.600
Inconsistent.
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:12.720
But again.
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:15.119
Was it like the shirt?
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:15.439
Yeah.
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:16.319
Just like that shirt.
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:17.600
Just like your white T.
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:18.159
Yeah.
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:20.239
It's not perfect.
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:22.159
I'm gonna let a lot of this slide.
01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:31.520
But this this was one of those moments where the two technical aspects of it, the lighting and the sound, bugged me.
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:32.239
Yeah.
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:37.680
It's not perfect, but I also know that when we were making films, we probably would have done the exact same things.
01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:38.319
Oh, for sure.
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:38.880
Right.
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:41.760
But we were making for a lot less than 1.8 million.
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:43.439
Just a little.
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:45.199
Tree fitting.
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:55.600
Um so Nancy realizes that Tina's death and their shared dreams are connected.
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:01.439
Um she goes home and she's taking a bath.
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:04.319
Might be the only time she takes a bath.
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:05.119
I don't know.
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:08.319
We clearly she doesn't go to the linen closet very often.
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:12.079
So maybe she's not allowed in the linen closet.
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:19.920
Uh and you know, even though her mother warns her not to fall asleep in the bath because hundreds of people drown every year that way.
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:20.880
Guess what she does?
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:22.159
Falls asleep in the bath.
01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:23.119
Yes, she does.
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:24.560
She didn't listen to her mom.
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:30.800
Uh, but we see Freddie's glove emerging from the water between her legs.
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:32.239
It did, yeah.
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:34.640
What a dirty place for that glove to be.
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:42.800
Uh and Nancy then it gets pulled beneath the surface into an impossibly deep void.
01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.159
And we get boobs.
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:47.199
We get boobs.
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:48.640
Boobs, I missed them.
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:49.279
Just one.
01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:50.319
I missed a boob.
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:51.600
We get the right boob.
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:55.520
I even wrote down the time that I did see a partial boob.
01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:58.079
And I did the timestamp on it.
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.239
Did you watch the edited version?
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:01.600
Uh no, I don't think so.
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:01.920
Oh.
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:03.600
I missed this boob though.
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:05.439
Oh, yeah, I got full-on boob.
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:07.279
What were you watching it on?
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:07.760
Huh?
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.279
Were you watching this like on a small TV?
01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:10.960
No, it was my living room TV.
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:14.880
And so you didn't see her get pulled underwater and see her naked and show her boob?
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:16.159
I saw her get pulled underwater.
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:17.039
I didn't see the boob.
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:18.880
I didn't notice the boob.
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:19.359
Okay.
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:21.359
I uh I noticed.
01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:22.560
Sad day for me.
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:23.439
Yeah.
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:31.119
And Brian, I know you were very concerned because this she was, well, at 20 years old, she was portraying a teenager.
01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:31.600
Right.
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:38.239
And I think it's disconcerning when you see a high schooler and there's nudity.
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:38.640
Yeah.
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:40.720
You know, I felt the same way at Fast Times.
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:41.119
Yeah.
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:41.600
Right.
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:44.800
And so you had to watch this multiple times to really break it down.
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.359
Just to make sure that, oh my gosh, did I really see a boob?
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:48.640
For posterity's sake.
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:50.720
Well, for you know, investigative purposes.
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:53.199
You're probably like disgusting.
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:54.479
She's a high schooler.
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:55.039
I was.
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:56.399
And I can dare you.
01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:58.159
Once I confirmed it, yes.
01:14:58.239 --> 01:14:59.680
Once I confirmed the boobage.
01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:00.800
That is a boob.
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:01.279
Uh-huh.
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:02.159
I am a positive.
01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:04.159
How dare you rest great?
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:06.800
That's high school boob.
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:09.920
I'm a grown man.
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.239
I shouldn't be seeing high school boobs.
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:13.520
No, you shouldn't.
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:15.680
No, absolutely not.
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:16.159
No.
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.439
But 20-year-olds portraying high schoolers, you can't.
01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:22.399
Well, you know, that's that's gray area.
01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.520
There's an asterisk.
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.880
Anyway, she manages to wake up and she escapes.
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:33.279
Um, and her mom comes in and Nancy says, Oh no, I just slipped out of the tub.
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:34.079
It's okay.
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:35.840
Do you guys have a robe?
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:37.279
I do not have a robe.
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:38.479
I've never had a robe.
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:39.840
My wife has a robe.
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.880
Does she use it like the way she used it in this movie?
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.560
Yeah, she'll take it in the bathroom with her, and when she gets out of the shower, she'll put a robe on.
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:47.920
Is it almost like a towel?
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:49.840
Like you use your robe as a towel?
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:51.920
Oh, it's a terry cloth robe.
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:54.640
I don't I don't get the purpose of the robe.
01:15:54.880 --> 01:16:07.359
Um, my I gave a robe to my daughter so that way she could make her way from the bathroom to her room because for some reason she can't be bothered to bring clothes to the bathroom to change after her shower.
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:11.279
So she has to go back from the bathroom to her room to change.
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:11.840
Okay.
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:20.239
And it got to a certain point where my daughter walking naked through the house just wasn't you need a rope.
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:25.279
I'm like, kid, there's a fucking robe.
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:28.159
You're starting to get older and you need a fucking robe.
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:28.640
Yep.
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:29.439
I don't have a robe.
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:30.000
I've never been.
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:32.479
Your kid is not portrayed by a 20-year-old actress.
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:33.359
True.
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:35.199
That is true.
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:46.000
Uh so Nancy now is becoming increasingly terrified of sleeping at all, and she helps herself to some stay awake pills.
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:46.960
You know what though?
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:50.800
If you're trying to stay awake, you probably shouldn't lay in bed.
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:52.319
I thought that too.
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:52.720
Yep.
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:55.039
Because I'm gonna fall asleep if I lay in bed.
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:55.600
Right.
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:57.279
I'm gonna fall asleep.
01:16:57.520 --> 01:16:58.880
Like get up and like clean the house.
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:03.199
What's the long what's the longest you think you've gone and stayed awake?
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:04.239
Oh god.
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:14.720
Um, there were some times in like middle school, high school that I would stay up all night.
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:15.279
Uh-huh.
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.199
And then not go to bed till the next night.
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:17.520
Right.
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:18.800
So like 36 hours.
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:19.760
Yeah, somewhere in there.
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:21.119
Yeah, that's that's where I'm at.
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:21.920
That's about it, though.
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:24.880
I pulled the all-nighter and then not gone to bed till the next night.
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:25.520
I've done that.
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:26.399
That's my limit.
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:27.840
I've done that many times.
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:32.800
When we used to do the 48-hour film project, there were a few times I went the full 48 hours without sleeping.
01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:33.520
I could say that.
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:34.159
Yeah.
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:39.439
But part of that is you could not stop.
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:40.479
Right.
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.600
Because if you did, you would fall asleep.
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:44.000
Yeah.
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:46.000
Don't stop.
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:55.279
If I am trying, like I said, like if I'm trying to stay awake, like my my wife gets on me all the time, like, she's like, just sit down.
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:56.159
And I can't.
01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:56.960
Like, I'm busy.
01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:58.000
Like, I gotta stay busy.
01:17:58.079 --> 01:17:59.760
I gotta do something all the time.
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:04.239
If I were to sit down, I have that button in my ass.
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:06.079
If I sit down, I'm gonna fall asleep.
01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:06.640
Yeah.
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.760
So if I was her, I'm not gonna lay in bed.
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:14.720
I knew I'm gonna clean, like clean the room, clean the house, like do something.
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:18.079
Like, I have to be up, moving, and engaged to stay awake.
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.000
Like, there's no way I could lay down now.
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:27.439
There is that frustration of not being able to sleep where where you're lying in bed and lying in bed and you can't fall asleep, but you want to.
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:27.760
Right.
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.159
And that's just you know self-fulfilling.
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:37.039
But if you were actively trying to avoid sleep, the last thing you should do is lie down in a comfy place.
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:37.760
Right.
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:38.880
Stupid.
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:39.920
That's so stupid.
01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:42.159
Well, and that was Glenn's issue.
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:44.479
Glenn could not stay awake.
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:47.920
No, her fucking boyfriend fell asleep like at the drop of it.
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:54.319
Well, let's let's get into Glenn because Glenn shows up, climbs the rose trellis to her room.
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:54.720
Right.
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:56.960
What a rose trellis is made out of?
01:18:57.199 --> 01:18:57.760
Lattice.
01:18:57.920 --> 01:18:59.439
Yeah, that's light ass shit.
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:00.720
Yeah, you're gonna break it.
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:01.199
Yeah.
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:03.680
That ain't that's such a movie trope, too.
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:04.640
It absolutely is.
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:08.880
Like everybody, there's always some dude climbing a lattice trellis.
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:16.720
And also, what parent thinks about putting essentially a ladder straight up to their teenage daughter's window?
01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:17.359
Right.
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:28.000
I mean, even let's exclude the the the fact that there could be a serial mass murderer on the loose in their dreams or real world or whatever.
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:31.840
Just in generally speaking, that seems like a bad idea.
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:35.199
Here's some easy access to my teenage daughter's room.
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:38.560
Or easy access for my teenage daughter to escape.
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:39.039
True.
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.399
Did you guys ever do that in high school?
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:43.600
Sneak out of my room?
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:45.119
Or like or sneak into a girl's room?
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:46.159
Sneak into a girl's room?
01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:46.720
Oh, yeah.
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:47.600
Uh-huh.
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:49.920
Yeah, I did that often.
01:19:51.199 --> 01:20:05.920
So there was one night, it was like two in the morning, and I go to my girlfriend's house, and I do the whole romantic thing where I find these little pebbles and I throw them up against her window to try and wake her up, and it didn't fucking work.
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:10.479
I was there for like a half an hour throwing shit up against the window, and she doesn't want to wake up.
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:12.079
So then I just go home.
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:20.079
Uh the next day I have dinner with my girlfriend and her parents, and her dad's like, So how does it feel to be in somebody's crosshairs?
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:25.199
I was like, and I was like, I was like, uh, come again.
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:30.319
And he said, Yeah, my neighbor thought someone was breaking into my house last night and got his rifle out.
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.520
And had you in his crosshairs.
01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:34.479
Damn.
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:42.239
I was like, I was just trying to be romantic and probably also not the greatest thing.
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:45.119
I was, yeah.
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:51.600
This is the guy who uh we were having chicken and he was grilling chicken, and he's like, So, Brian, are you a leg man or a breastman?
01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:56.079
And I said, uh, I like wings.
01:20:57.680 --> 01:20:58.479
Well done, sir.
01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:00.239
I just I just go nuggets.
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:05.760
Yeah, but you're right.
01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:09.520
Then you know I just prefer steak raw and bloody.
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:20.880
So I don't know, around this time, like she's in the room with Glenn.
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:21.199
Yeah.
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:21.680
Right.
01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:23.680
And she's looking at herself in the mirror.
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:29.199
And I think this is really funny now, knowing her age, because she's like, God, I look 20 years old.
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:38.800
And so I figured, like, you know, she's high school, like you there's not a huge difference between like 17 and 20.
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:39.199
Right.
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:39.600
Right.
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:44.479
But I just thought now knowing that she is actually 20 years old while shooting this movie.
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:46.000
That's pretty funny.
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:47.039
Yeah, it is.
01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:54.880
So Glenn's there, and she asks Glenn to watch her while she sleeps.
01:21:55.119 --> 01:22:00.960
And the plan, quite simply, is if things go sideways, he needs to wake her ass up.
01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:01.359
Yeah.
01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:01.680
Yeah.
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:03.439
If I start struggling, you wake me up.
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:07.359
So Nancy dreams herself to the police station.
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:15.119
And while still in the dream land, she sees Freddie preparing to attack Rod in the jail cell.
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:16.960
Can we step back one sec?
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:17.279
Yeah.
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.840
Because this is really funny and also weird.
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:24.399
She is outside of her house now in her dream.
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:26.640
And she's like, Glenn.
01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:29.680
And he pops out from behind the tree, and he's like, Yeah.
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:33.119
And she's like, All right, just want to make sure you're still there.
01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:38.399
And I think this is so they initially aren't telling us this is a dream plan.
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.039
They just say, I I have a plan, there's somewhere I want to go.
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:47.680
And so it seems like the what they're trying to suggest to us initially that this is the real world.
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:49.600
They're snucking out and they're doing their thing.
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:52.720
This is one of those times I was talking about where you don't know if it's a dream or not.
01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:55.199
And I think this one's intentional, at least to start.
01:22:55.920 --> 01:23:02.239
Uh, but then once she sees Freddie to do his thing, it's like, okay, clearly she is in the dream world.
01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:05.039
But if she's a dream world, how is she talking to Glenn?
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:06.159
That's my point.
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.039
Like, it was a funny unless that's actually just part of her dream.
01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:10.640
Maybe she's just dreaming that Glenn's there.
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:12.640
Because she just anticipates that he's there.
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:14.880
It was a funny little moment for sure.
01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:16.640
The way he popped out behind the tree.
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:18.000
He's like, hey, I'm right here.
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:22.239
But it was like, how are you talking to Glenn if you're sleeping in your dream?
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:23.039
How are you talking to him?
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:25.279
Unless again, quite frankly, it's just a dream.
01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:27.119
She's just dreaming she's talking to Glenn.
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.720
Yeah, and then we find out that Glenn's sleeping too.
01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:31.840
Yeah.
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:57.760
Um, so yeah, Nancy is when she sees Freddie preparing to attack Rod, uh, she gasps, and then Freddie notices Nancy, and then he turns her attention towards her, and he begins his attack, and then she is panicking, and her alarm finally wakes her up because Glenn, shocker, fell asleep.
01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:58.000
Right.
01:23:58.159 --> 01:23:58.960
He had one job.
01:23:59.119 --> 01:23:59.439
One job.
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:00.960
He did a lot.
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.039
There was so many good at that job.
01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:03.359
No.
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:09.359
There were so many little like neat effects that they did during this dream, though.
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:13.840
Um, like Freddie walking through the bars, the cell bars.
01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:15.520
Yeah, I thought that was really neat.
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:17.199
Tina's guts.
01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:21.279
Like she was still in that body bag, but she had guts all over the floor.
01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:23.039
Like, that was really cool looking.
01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:24.800
The goopy stairs.
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:25.359
Yeah.
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:28.960
When her feet kept falling through the stairs and marshmallow stairs.
01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:30.479
I thought that was cool.
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.279
I mean, it was very simple, practical stuff, right?
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:37.520
And if you look at it in a very technical sense, it's cheesy as shit.
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:39.680
It's not super well executed, but it's quick.
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:41.279
You're looking at it.
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:46.640
I mean, I know you because you know I'm gonna say that was dumb.
01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:49.680
But there was I don't like more I don't like marshmallows.
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:52.640
I poke and hate marshmallows so much.
01:24:53.039 --> 01:25:00.239
But yeah, there were so many like cool little effects that they did, and it was it was one of those things where it's like they they had a lot of ideas, yeah.
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:06.079
And it was like, let's put them in there, and it was I know we kind of talked about this earlier.
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:08.159
I thought it didn't feel forced.
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:13.439
It was the surrealism of a dream, so you know that kind of thing, and I thought they captured that pretty well.
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.560
I'm gonna contrast this against our last movie that we watched, Clerks.
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:28.960
Okay, and all those little moments were where Kevin Smith was like, as a film writer, is like thought, oh, this is a fun moment, let's just stick it in that didn't add to it at all.
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:29.439
Right.
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:38.880
I think there are a lot of quick visual moments in this sequence and other points of the film that standalone are someone that's like, oh, it'd be cool if we did this.
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:41.359
These actually enhance and work for the film.
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.079
Well, it I think so, especially like the stairs.
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:48.880
We've all had dreams where we're trying to run away and you just can't.
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:49.359
Right.
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.399
You know, you're moving slower than you think you should.
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:58.560
And I think it kind of plays on every dream that everybody has that, yeah, I've had that moment too.
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:03.359
And I think that's the biggest difference in this, is because Clerks was a day in the life.
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:07.119
Yeah, they were all awake, that no one was sleeping is a dream.
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:08.640
So it's like anything goes.
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:19.359
Like the surrealism is there, and it's it makes sense to have all of these things happen because this is this makes a lot more sense than a guidance counselor smashing eggs.
01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:19.760
Right.
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:21.199
Yeah, exactly.
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:31.119
So uh in the real world, uh Nancy and Glenn rush to the police station so they can warn everyone that Rod is in danger.
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:37.039
Freddie, uh though, kills Rod in his cell by hanging him with his own bed sheet.
01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:39.520
I was disappointed in how Rod died.
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:43.600
Well, I I wanted him to die a gory, terrible death.
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:48.640
You know, that the death we'd seen was pretty darn gory.
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:50.960
I think this serves a few purposes.
01:26:51.840 --> 01:27:00.479
First off, Freddie almost like wanted to distract law enforcement from worrying about him.
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:01.039
Oh, sure.
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:04.159
And so but killing him in a way that was very plausible.
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:05.039
Suicide.
01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:05.359
Yeah.
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:12.079
And so, but where if if if it would have been a bloodbath, like we've seen other points of the movie, those would be question marks.
01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:12.640
Well, sure.
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:15.039
I I only say that because I didn't like Rod.
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:16.319
I didn't either.
01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:19.039
I I wanted them to like cut off his joint.
01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:20.880
But but even that line of reasoning.
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:22.239
It's joint.
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:27.520
Even that line of reasoning, what did Freddie have to fear from law enforcement?
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:28.319
That's true.
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:29.359
You're a dream demon.
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:29.680
Yeah.
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:31.119
You it doesn't fucking matter.
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:42.239
But the fact he's a dream demon is perplexing to me in how Rod dies, because Rod dies by Fredd manipulating his sheet.
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:48.319
Now Nancy or Tina, he sl attacked her directly.
01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:48.880
Right.
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:51.359
Her body got slashed, she died.
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.840
How did he manipulate the sheet?
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:57.199
Was the sheet asleep?
01:27:57.439 --> 01:27:58.399
In the real world.
01:27:58.880 --> 01:27:59.199
Right.
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.520
Was the sheet taking a little nap?
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:03.039
Little nappy-poo?
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:05.279
Well, he he was he was sleeping.
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:08.399
He was sleeping, but he didn't attack him directly.
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:11.359
He manipulated the sheet to attack him in the real world.
01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:11.840
Right.
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:17.840
In which case, if he can manipulate objects in the real world, it doesn't matter if people are asleep or not.
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:18.960
Ah, that's true.
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:19.359
Yeah.
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:20.319
Loophole.
01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:20.720
Okay.
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:23.920
Little plot issue.
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:25.600
So the sheets wrapping around.
01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:32.319
Or if he would have can manipulate Rod to wrap the sheet around his own neck, then I would say, okay.
01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:33.600
Well done, Freddy.
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:34.560
I could see that.
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:36.720
You sick sadistic bastard.
01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:37.439
But he didn't.
01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:39.199
He just I like that better anyway.
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:42.079
How do you think they did that with the sheets though?
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:43.840
Like it was it just like string?
01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:45.600
It was wire and string.
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:47.119
It looked really good though.
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.000
I think it was probably ripped something out of the Jim Henson playbook.
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.760
Well, Dick, did you see did you see the tip of the sheet?
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.399
Did you see the little thread hanging out?
01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:57.199
No, I didn't know.
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:01.119
Yeah, there's a little white thread hanging out that they tied the line to.
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:01.760
Oh, okay.
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:02.319
I didn't know.
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:04.000
Then they were kind of pulling it.
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:08.880
You couldn't see the line because obviously it was like clear fishing line or something, but you could see the thread it was tied to.
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:09.359
Okay.
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:09.840
Yeah.
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:16.800
My guess is that it probably was also a bit of reversing of the film, like because they probably stretched it out and then had it like suck back down.
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:17.039
Oh.
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:26.079
Started off it away, but then pulled it back in, and they probably then reversed it so it looked like it was being pulled around.
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:26.960
Smart.
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:27.920
I'm guessing.
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:31.840
I don't know, but that's that's how I would do it if it were me.
01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:42.399
Something I did notice though is after they pulled him down, and they like brought him down and they checked his pulse, his eyes were closed.
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:45.840
They should have been open, right?
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:48.159
That that's a movie trope.
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.600
You don't always die with your eyes open.
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:53.680
Sometimes your eyes are closed.
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:54.640
It just depends.
01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.520
So if your eyes are closed when you die, they stay closed.
01:29:57.680 --> 01:29:58.800
Uh no, no.
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:01.359
And sometimes you die with your eyes open and they close.
01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:02.560
It just it's just weird.
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:08.640
It just Well, maybe if Freddie could manipulate the sheet, he'd pulled the thread out and did the little stitch.
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:11.920
He's like, your fucking eyes being open is creeping me out.
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:14.560
I'm gonna close those suckers.
01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:19.520
So yeah, Rod's dead.
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:20.720
Yeah.
01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:21.439
Died.
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:24.000
Hung by the sheet in the jail cell.
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:24.239
Yeah.
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:26.319
Which makes him look like, hey, I'm caught.
01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:28.399
I'm guilty, so guilty.
01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:28.720
Yeah.
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:30.000
Killed myself because of this.
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:30.800
Couldn't stand it.
01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:32.479
Our only suspect is dead.
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:32.960
Yeah.
01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:34.239
Case closed.
01:30:34.399 --> 01:30:34.720
Yep.
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:38.720
Um Nancy attends Rod's funeral with her parents.
01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:40.640
Why would they be there?
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:45.119
Why would Nancy's parents go to the funeral?
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:46.720
To support Nancy.
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:47.279
Okay.
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:48.319
Maybe.
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:50.800
I don't think she could drive.
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:52.479
She never drove in the whole movie.
01:30:53.199 --> 01:31:00.319
I mean, we learn later that Nancy's parents had a pact with other parents from the neighborhood.
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:03.600
And I got an issue with that.
01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:06.399
I wonder if there was a connection based on that.
01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:06.800
Yes.
01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:08.800
But because there was a look.
01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:09.359
Yeah.
01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:11.439
There was a look between parents.
01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:12.880
A knowing look.
01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:14.000
At the funeral.
01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:18.079
Which I don't have many.
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:21.600
Is a bone and bone of contention with me in this movie.
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:23.199
Yeah.
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:28.239
So you have a daughter who's having these dreams about this guy.
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:28.560
Yeah.
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:30.800
She even frickin' brings his hat back.
01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:31.359
Yeah.
01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:33.119
And has the dude's name in it.
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:33.920
Yeah.
01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.039
Don't you think he came clean with that name before they did?
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:40.479
Well, we'll get we haven't even got to.
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:40.880
I know.
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:41.600
We'll get that reading.
01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:42.560
Not even quite yet.
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:43.199
We're almost there.
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:44.319
Almost there.
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:45.520
So yeah.
01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:55.760
Um, as they're walking away from the funeral, um, because you know, Nancy's increasingly frantic talk about the dream killer is is worrying Don and Marge.
01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:57.920
And Don's like, take her home, keep her there.
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:00.159
And Marge's like, I have a better idea.
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:01.840
I'm gonna get her some help.
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:02.560
Yeah.
01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:06.239
And so then we go to the sleep clinic, which is kind of cool.
01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:07.359
Now, all right.
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.119
The sleep clinic was interesting.
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:16.640
There was a guy in there, and he said this, and I wrote it down because it drives me crazy.
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.800
And I need because I even said, What the fuck does this mean?
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:25.600
He says, if you don't dream, you go.
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:29.920
What does that mean?
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:32.720
Okay, so the the doctor in the sleep clinic?
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:33.039
Yeah.
01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:34.800
Did you recognize his voice?
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:35.439
No.
01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:38.880
He's the voice of Roger Rabbit.
01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:39.520
Is he really?
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:40.800
In Hooframe Roger Rabbit.
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:41.039
What?
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:41.439
Yep.
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:44.319
Yeah, the doctor in the sleep clinic.
01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:44.640
That guy.
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:46.800
Yeah, it was uh Charles Fleischer.
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:47.680
That's his name.
01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:48.159
Yeah.
01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:54.399
Well that him being Roger Rabbit doesn't explain what he said though.
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:57.920
If you don't dream, you go.
01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:00.479
And he did this like weird like tip of the head thing.
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:01.760
I think it meant that you go crazy.
01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:02.479
You go crazy.
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:03.920
If you don't dream, you go crazy.
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:04.239
Yeah.
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:04.960
Yeah.
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:06.880
How?
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:24.079
Like I I don't know that they fully understand dreams entirely, but but but the basic is my understanding is is that it's the way your brain takes all these loose different pieces that have been floating around and files them and sorts them in a way that it can be compartmentalized and you can exist in your life.
01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:30.000
If you don't have that on a periodic basis, your brain becomes overloaded and you go nuts.
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:30.319
Okay.
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:38.479
And so if you go a long amount of time with uh without uh getting an REM, the second you fall asleep, you go straight there.
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:41.199
So apparently I'm gonna go crazy then.
01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:42.800
Because like I hardly ever dream ever.
01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:44.000
No, that's not true.
01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:45.760
You do, you do you don't remember it.
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:46.560
I don't remember that.
01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:48.239
Yeah, I rarely remember my dreams.
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:52.800
And most people don't unless they wake up right at the end of a REM cycle.
01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:54.479
Okay.
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:58.880
Or because dreams are actually very quick, it's just how long our brain processes them.
01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:00.720
And that's why they get very weird.
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.319
Um, because from what I understand, dreams only last a couple seconds.
01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:04.640
Yep.
01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:10.239
But and you can go from dream to dream to dream to dream, and they could be completely varied and completely all over the place.
01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:14.560
And our brain takes much longer to process them than what they actually occur.
01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:20.319
And so if you have multiple dreams in a row, they kind of blend together and you get really fucked up shit.
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:28.159
And so the dreams happening so quickly, like in real world real real world time, it's only a couple seconds.
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:32.720
So that's why you don't remember them because they're so short in real time.
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:37.119
But in your mind, a dream, you're in the timeline of the dream.
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:41.359
So it feels like you're dreaming for half an hour, but only lasts two seconds.
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:46.640
And what's interesting is like it goes back to something we've talked about previously on other episodes.
01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:49.680
Memories only really happen once.
01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:57.840
So like if you have a dream and you don't tell someone about it right away, you forget it because it just fades.
01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:04.720
And so then after that, you have to like express it, and then you don't remember the dream, you remember the memory of telling someone about the dream.
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:05.039
Right.
01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:06.479
So you're filling a bunch of cracks.
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:06.960
Okay.
01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:07.439
Yeah.
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:09.680
That's why dream journals were such a big thing.
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:10.079
Yeah.
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:10.880
Like in the 90s.
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:16.880
But then there's also those times where like my wife will tell me about a dream that she had, uh-huh.
01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:19.520
And then it sparks a memory of a dream that I had.
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:19.760
Yeah.
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:21.680
I'm like, oh my god, I remember this now.
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:23.439
Well, and that's that whole idea deja vu.
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:23.920
It was this.
01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.239
All these things are red and green sweater.
01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:31.039
All these things are still rattling around, and there we we just file them away.
01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:31.600
Yeah.
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:32.399
Interesting.
01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:32.960
Okay.
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:35.439
Hey, are you guys lucid dreamers?
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:36.800
Not that I know of.
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:37.199
Yeah.
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:37.840
Are you?
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:40.239
That's where you manipulate your dreams.
01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:42.000
Nah, I've never tried it.
01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:44.640
Yeah, I it happened organically when I was a little kid.
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:46.560
I used to fall out of bed when I sleep.
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:46.960
Uh-huh.
01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:49.279
And when I'd fall out of bed, I'd have the same dream.
01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:53.600
And it was a terrible dream of falling and stuff was rushing past me.
01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:57.439
And then I figured out that I only have that dream when I fall out of bed.
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:04.079
So I started to dream, and when I start to fall in my dream, I would turn into flying.
01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:04.720
Okay.
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:10.800
And so I could manipulate where I went and who I, you know, where I'd go and who I'd see.
01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:12.479
And I stopped falling out of bed.
01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:16.560
Now I definitely have dreams where I become self-aware at a certain point I'm in a dream.
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:16.960
Yeah.
01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:20.319
Where like, and usually it's like something really bad has happened.
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.000
Like it's just like a series of terrible things.
01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:23.520
It's like a stress dream kind of thing.
01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:23.920
Sure.
01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:25.199
Or an anxiety dream.
01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:28.000
And a certain point, like I become aware, like, no, wait.
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:28.720
This is dumb.
01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:29.199
It's just a dream.
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:30.000
This is just dumb.
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:30.640
It's just a dream.
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:33.439
And then it's like I go and like turns the page.
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:50.079
Um, but I don't, other than maybe like that, that there's that land between being fully asleep and when you're kind of just starting to fall asleep, where it's like a blend of the real world and your mind, those I can have a certain degree of control over.
01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:52.319
Well, sure, especially if there's a sound outside.
01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:52.720
Yeah.
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:53.199
Yeah.
01:36:53.439 --> 01:37:01.600
Uh and and and I I always love if sometimes, you know, I fall asleep while watching TV.
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:03.439
And that'll do it.
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:07.439
I have visions in my and actually I even do the same.
01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:16.560
I'll be reading a book and start to nod off, and I will have very vivid imagination of what just happened.
01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:17.439
In the book.
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:19.439
In the book or even in the TV show.
01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:19.760
Okay.
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:22.880
And I'll like be for sure this is what had just happened.
01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:30.640
And yeah, so it's it's like that somehow it it creates its own little reality, and then when I come out of it, it somehow seams up with what's actually happening.
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:31.359
Sure.
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:38.399
Yeah, it's crazy how outside stimuli kind of affect your sleepy time.
01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:39.680
But yeah, yeah, weird.
01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:41.359
Back to the movie doing it.
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:50.479
Yeah, so they're at the sleep clinic, and um, you know, they're they're throwing out all kinds of jargon about REM and sleep numbers and this and that.
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:53.439
And Nancy does fall asleep.
01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:56.800
He says a nightmare would be around a 10.
01:37:57.359 --> 01:37:59.600
And then she's showing a number of like a 30.
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:01.680
It's like, whoa, this is unheard of.
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:02.800
Yeah, it goes up to 50.
01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:04.000
Never seen this before.
01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:07.119
Mama my this is crazy.
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:19.279
Um, and so, you know, we don't see what dream she's having, but they do rouse her from it, and and she realizes she has his hat.
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:24.399
She took it off his head, and she wakes up with uh razor marks on her arm.
01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:24.880
Yeah.
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:34.720
So Nancy has proof that Freddie is more than a nightmare and that she can bring things from the dream land into the real world.
01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:40.159
She realizes that, but neither the doctor nor the mom seem to figure it out.
01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:44.000
No, like where so you're in a clinical place.
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:44.800
Uh huh.
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:47.520
You only have what you brought in.
01:38:47.760 --> 01:38:48.000
Right.
01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:49.920
And now all of a sudden you have a fedora.
01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:50.399
Yeah.
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:51.760
Like nobody questioned this.
01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:52.319
Like, no, no.
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:52.960
No, I know.
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:55.199
It kind of just went went over everyone's head.
01:38:55.359 --> 01:38:57.039
Like you just pulled this out of your blankets.
01:38:57.199 --> 01:39:00.560
Like, there's no way that that hat was there, and everybody's just like, eh.
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:01.600
Right.
01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:02.079
Okay.
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:04.560
So back at home, moving on.
01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:18.319
Yeah, Nancy's confronting her mother about this whole thing because Nancy's mom, Marge, is, you know, pouring back the vodka, tries to hide the bottle behind her back, but we all know you're drunk.
01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:23.199
Um, and uh it's like it yeah, the hat was real.
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:25.199
I pulled it and it's like, well, that could have came from anywhere.
01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:26.159
You may have brought it with you.
01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:26.800
Well, where's that?
01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:27.680
I threw it away.
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:29.359
Well, she's actually just in a drawer.
01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:32.720
Um, and and it turns out it has its name, it has a name inside.
01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:33.680
Fred Kruger.
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:35.439
Well, who the fuck is Fred Kruger?
01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:36.319
Google it.
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:37.439
Let's go.
01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:41.439
Fred Kruger, Mom.
01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:42.960
Fred Kruger.
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.600
Do you know who that is, mother?
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:49.039
Because if you do, you better tell me because he's after me now.
01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:52.079
Nancy, trust your mother for once, please.
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:55.600
You'll feel better when you get some sleep.
01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:58.079
She's sending her to her doom.
01:39:58.319 --> 01:40:07.039
So this was also like when they got back, and that before they had this conversation, that's when bars were on every single window.
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:07.439
Right.
01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:07.680
Yeah.
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:10.079
And the and the rose terrace was torn down.
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:10.560
Yep.
01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:18.159
And so she's Marge has become increasingly drunk and desperate to keep Nancy inside the oh my god, she was ham sauce.
01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:18.640
Yeah.
01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:21.039
Like you say, ham sauce, ham sauce.
01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:24.159
I'm gonna use that from now on.
01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:26.159
She was ham sauced.
01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:30.239
Rum ham.
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:31.439
Rum ham.
01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:39.840
It at that point where the mom knows the name, that's when she should have told her.
01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:44.560
I I don't I'm gonna give it a slight benefit of the doubt here.
01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.880
Or she should have gotten together with the other parents and like, oh my god, he's back.
01:40:49.119 --> 01:40:53.119
There should have been some communication, a little phone tree or something going on here.
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:53.760
Yeah, right.
01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:59.439
Because uh, I don't know how Nancy has never heard of this guy.
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:08.159
But her mom, as we learn shortly hereafter, was involved in a conspiracy to murder him.
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:08.880
Yeah.
01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:12.640
After he murdered 20 or so kids in their neighborhood.
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:13.199
Sure.
01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:16.159
Ah, see, I was getting ready to defend that.
01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:20.720
But if that happened in your hometown, that would have been you would know.
01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:21.119
Yeah.
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:22.000
Like you would know.
01:41:22.159 --> 01:41:22.399
Yeah.
01:41:22.640 --> 01:41:30.560
Like I remember being a kid, and like, because like now you're looking at like the world itself and you're like, God, everything's so crazy now.
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:32.000
It wasn't like that when I was a kid.
01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:42.560
No, it's because you didn't fucking have the internet, you didn't have like you didn't watch the news, like there was not that there wasn't a 24-hour news cycle news cycle, right?
01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:44.720
Like, and at that time you didn't give a fuck.
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.119
Like, you were just riding your bike and fucking off.
01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:48.640
This stuff has always happened.
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:57.119
But if it happened in your actual hometown, you're gonna know you are, and kids are gonna talk about it, like whether it's a rumor or not.
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:01.359
They're in high school, somebody's parents would have spilled the beans to somebody.
01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:05.680
Well, someone's parents would have been super overprotective because of this, right?
01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:17.119
And also, their kids jumping jump or skip rope or skipping rope singing one to Freddy's Phrase Coming for You.
01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:20.640
No one's asked who's Freddie?
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:21.520
They have a fucking song.
01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:24.239
There's a song about this guy.
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:32.159
Now, I I do appreciate the fact that you know these songs often have very macabre origins.
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:36.159
Like ringing around the roses is all about the bubonic plague and black death.
01:42:36.479 --> 01:42:36.640
Yeah.
01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:49.039
Um, so you know, yeah, I I could see kids trying to reconcile mass murder and creating a song about it to scare the shit out of each other because kids are assholes.
01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:53.439
But but there's no way that she in her hometown never heard of Freddie Kruger.
01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:54.720
Never, you know what I mean?
01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:59.680
Like she would have heard something along if you killed 20 people her lifetime, yeah.
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:04.399
And then off then parents, then parents fucking burned him alive, right?
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:05.359
Like somebody's gonna.
01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:08.319
Also, does this town not have a library?
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:10.960
Yeah, go to the library, get some micro fee shit.
01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:14.399
Get the micro fee! Micro fee, share fee, absolutely, yeah.
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:16.399
Go fucking roll through that shit.
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.720
You know, hit the archives, hit the hit the Dewey Decimal system, hit the card catalog.
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:22.319
The kids on it know to do it.
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:22.560
Right.
01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:24.479
The kids in Stranger Things would have done it.
01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:26.000
Yeah, hell yeah, they would have.
01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:29.600
Well, these were these were preps, these were dumb kids.
01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:33.520
Fucking idiot, socies.
01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:34.800
Right.
01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:42.239
So is this around the time when mom was all drunk and she's like, come down to the cellar?
01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:43.520
Yes, this is the time.
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:44.560
It was real creepy.
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:46.079
It was a little bit, a little bit.
01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:56.960
Nancy cut, well, Nancy, yeah, after the whole, you know, arguing in the kitchen and Nancy saying, fuck sleep and throwing the bottle to the, you know, the vodka bottle to the ground.
01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:57.279
Uh-huh.
01:43:57.439 --> 01:44:00.640
Basically, shortly, almost like right afterwards, she comes home.
01:44:00.720 --> 01:44:02.479
This is when she sees the bars on the window.
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:02.880
Okay.
01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:04.880
And I was a little off on the timing there.
01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:09.760
You know, Marge is being very, you know, very drunk and ham righteous.
01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:11.359
Ham tossed.
01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:11.520
Yeah.
01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:12.960
Hit the rum ham hard.
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.279
It's like, hey, and let me tell you a bedtime story.
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:19.680
It's like and at this point, she's like, come down to the cellar.
01:44:19.840 --> 01:44:21.359
And I was like, no fucking way.
01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:28.000
And she had the she had the darn Come on, Brian.
01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:29.680
She had the fucking glove with the knife.
01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:30.319
There we go.
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:30.640
Yeah.
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:31.439
In the basement.
01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:32.399
In the basement.
01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:32.960
Okay.
01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:39.279
So her story is that Freddie was murdered 20 or so kids in the neighborhood, kids that they all knew.
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:39.600
Right.
01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:43.920
And that he went to to get put on trial.
01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:51.680
He was arrested and put on trial, but because of a improperly signed search warrant and a technicality, he got off.
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:53.439
And that didn't sound right.
01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:54.640
He got away with it.
01:44:55.119 --> 01:45:08.640
And the parents tracked him down to the boiler room that he murdered his child murdered children in and spread it with threw gasoline over the place, burned it and uh set on fire, burning him alive.
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:09.439
Yeah.
01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:12.479
How did they get the glove?
01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:16.399
Now I know the metal of the glove probably would have been an attack.
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:17.199
But the leather would have burned.
01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:18.319
The leather would have burned.
01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:18.640
Yeah.
01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:22.880
Now was there ever two gloves?
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:25.039
And that's why he only has one now.
01:45:25.439 --> 01:45:27.279
Because she has one of them.
01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.800
So, but still, when did where did she get that?
01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:32.640
Maybe he didn't have it on.
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:34.079
Did he have it in his apartment?
01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:36.319
Like, you know, like he lived in a trailer or something.
01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:42.399
It was still there with him in the boiler room, but like maybe he didn't have it on when he got burned alive and they stole it.
01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:42.800
I don't know.
01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:43.199
I don't know.
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:45.760
Maybe when they spread the gasoline, they like beat the shit out of him.
01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:46.079
Right.
01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:46.319
Yeah.
01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:47.600
Maybe love.
01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:51.039
Because like honestly, though, they would have had to like tie him up or something.
01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:53.760
Yeah, I feel like there's got to be a part of the story that's missing.
01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:54.000
Right.
01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:58.079
Like nobody's just gonna like stand there and get burned alive.
01:45:58.159 --> 01:45:58.399
Yeah.
01:45:58.560 --> 01:45:59.439
Or he fight back.
01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:00.399
Like, you know what I mean?
01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:02.720
Like, you're gonna know people are coming after you.
01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:04.560
Like, there was probably some kind of a fight.
01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:08.000
If they were spreading gasoline in it, he would know that he would be there.
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:08.640
Smell it.
01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:09.119
Okay, yeah.
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:12.159
So you have a band of vigilante parents.
01:46:12.239 --> 01:46:12.319
Yeah.
01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:12.800
Right.
01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:14.800
And she does say parents.
01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:15.680
Yes.
01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:22.640
Um, so a band of vigilante parents come together to murder this guy.
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:28.800
Um, you would think you'd have some form of pact or bond at that point on.
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:37.840
So even in just shorthand, like you could like if something was going on, you could like make a little slashing mark and everyone would know, oh shit, we got to rally the troops, or at least have like a phone tree or something you can do.
01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:47.279
Where you say something's up and you call Bill, and Bill calls Susie, and Susie calls Mitch and Mitch calls George, and you all rally around the old old pine tree or elm tree.
01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:49.840
Who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors?
01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:50.560
Something.
01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:52.479
I guess it's pretty serious.
01:46:53.119 --> 01:46:59.279
You would have something where you would you would be like, All right, we gotta get our story straight.
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:00.319
You would at least have that.
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:02.079
So you would use that same mechanism.
01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:08.000
You know, if they're killing if the same guy is killing people in their sleep, yeah, you rally the troops.
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:11.520
The parents who killed the guy get together and like, okay, we gotta talk about this.
01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:12.079
Okay.
01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:22.319
And if nothing else, the first time one of your kids, because I think the the suggestion here is that Freddie is killing the children of the parents of the people that killed him.
01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:22.640
Yeah.
01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:30.399
So after the first one of your children gets murdered in a brutal way, that I don't know, there's something very familiar about the way this child died.
01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:32.399
I feel like I've seen it before.
01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:34.560
I heard about this one time.
01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:37.760
It kind of I mean, is it just me?
01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:39.520
Is it just me remarkable?
01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:47.600
Is it kind of like that time about 15 years ago where that crazy janitor guy was murdering kids on our street?
01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:49.520
That we didn't know it's kind of like that.
01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:51.840
Did we really kill him?
01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:53.439
Could he be out still?
01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:54.880
And are we sure he's dead?
01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:55.760
And that's my issue.
01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:57.119
It went over all their heads.
01:47:57.359 --> 01:47:58.800
Yeah, no one put two and two together.
01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:00.560
No one shit, no one compared notes.
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:00.960
Right.
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:06.640
Can I just say though, that I was really happy that we had a horror movie that gave backstory?
01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:07.680
That's true.
01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:08.800
That's true.
01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:12.319
They explained it at least.
01:48:12.479 --> 01:48:13.279
At least part.
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:14.319
At least part.
01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:14.640
Yeah.
01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:17.840
Which is better than like every other horror movie that's out there.
01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:27.119
They in the very first one, the like first of the series, they gave a backstory as to how everything happened.
01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:28.319
And I was like, you know what?
01:48:28.399 --> 01:48:28.960
That's something.
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:30.560
That is something that's something.
01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:34.800
Now, in in subsequent movies in the franchise, you get even more backstory.
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:42.880
Oh, yeah, because we find out you find out that Freddie is the son of a nun who was raped by a hundred crazy convicts.
01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:43.359
Yes.
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:46.159
A nun that was raped by a hundred crazy convicts.
01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:46.800
Yes.
01:48:47.039 --> 01:48:49.119
And he was birthed out of all that.
01:48:49.199 --> 01:48:49.600
Yes.
01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:51.199
Wow.
01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:54.720
And also and they said a hundred.
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:54.960
Yeah.
01:48:55.439 --> 01:49:02.960
And while while they do give him more of a sense of humor, they also lean more into the fact that he was a pedophile in addition to a child murderer.
01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:03.600
Yeah.
01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:05.279
Yeah, I've heard that part of it.
01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:08.000
I've never seen any other nightmare in Elstery, though.
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:10.239
Uh, the second one is not good.
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:11.920
You might as well just jump to three.
01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:12.399
Okay.
01:49:13.039 --> 01:49:13.680
All right.
01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:14.960
Um, anyway.
01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:16.319
But thank you for the backstory.
01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:16.640
Yeah.
01:49:16.880 --> 01:49:17.520
I appreciate it.
01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:18.960
So but that's not really part of this movie.
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:23.760
So is Freddie actually the villain, or is he the consequence of what the the uh the parents did?
01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.159
Oh, he's he's both.
01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:27.760
He's both, yeah.
01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:30.000
Much like the city of Cleveland.
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:32.079
It's the parents who are the villain here.
01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:36.319
Speaking of which, this movie took place in Ohio?
01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:37.199
Yes.
01:49:37.840 --> 01:49:41.520
How did they why did they think this would pass as Ohio?
01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:48.479
They have a shot where they're walking in the freaking Venice district of Los Angeles, right?
01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:52.239
Are there a lot of canal streets in Ohio?
01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:53.039
Yes.
01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:54.640
There's a river that burned.
01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:55.520
It's true.
01:49:56.880 --> 01:49:58.079
Maybe that's where he got his scars.
01:49:58.159 --> 01:49:59.039
The the Cuyahoga?
01:49:59.199 --> 01:49:59.359
Yeah.
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:01.119
Kicked him in the river.
01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:02.640
They didn't actually set him on fire.
01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:05.039
They kicked him in the river that was already on fire.
01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:08.159
Threw in a match and it went up in a blaze.
01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:12.239
That's what you get when you build a boiler room on top of a burning river.
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:15.600
Anywho, movie.
01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:25.199
Um, so Nancy realizes that Freddy is targeting the children of the people who killed him, and and she hatches a plan.
01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:27.279
I grab the guy in my dream.
01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:29.359
You see me struggling, so you wake me up.
01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:32.560
We both come out, you whack the fucker, and we got him.
01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:34.399
Are you crazy or what?
01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:35.760
You're the jock.
01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:37.760
You have a baseball batter something.
01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:41.680
Just meet me at my porch at midnight.
01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:43.920
Oh, and meanwhile.
01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:45.039
Meanwhile.
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:50.800
Whatever you do, don't fall asleep.
01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:52.239
Spoiler alert.
01:50:52.399 --> 01:50:53.199
He falls asleep.
01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:54.079
He falls asleep.
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:57.439
Glenn can't fucking stay awake to save anybody's life.
01:50:57.760 --> 01:51:00.640
Oh, he's he's he's Rip Van Winkle.
01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:02.399
Yep.
01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:03.680
He falls asleep.
01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.560
I just really liked how she said you whack the fucker.
01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:11.520
This is when we're getting into like kind of like badass Nancy.
01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:14.079
Like she's making her turn towards MacGyver here.
01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:14.720
Yeah, right.
01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:14.960
Yeah.
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:16.479
There's a MacGyver moment.
01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:16.880
There is.
01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.880
Well, we would see it in that moment on the Venice Bridge.
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:28.479
Uh where she's got the book on the survived traps and uh yeah, the military survival guide.
01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:29.039
Uh-huh.
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:32.079
Which, you know, it's good handy reading for a 15-year-old.
01:51:32.319 --> 01:51:35.119
In fact, I plan on getting a copy for my daughter when she turns 15.
01:51:35.199 --> 01:51:35.279
Yeah.
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:39.359
Okay, so the trick the trick she did with the light bulb and the gunpowder.
01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:40.560
I've done that.
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:41.199
Yeah?
01:51:41.359 --> 01:51:41.520
Yeah.
01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:42.239
And it works.
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:42.800
It does.
01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:43.119
Yeah.
01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:43.520
No, good.
01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:45.039
But it's like a flashbang.
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:48.159
I I did at the talent show in high school.
01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:51.199
We did uh um a Led Zeppelin song.
01:51:51.840 --> 01:52:00.399
And when it starts to rock, you flip the switch to power the lights, and the element lights the gunpowder, and it's just it's like a flashbang.
01:52:01.359 --> 01:52:02.319
We should try it.
01:52:02.479 --> 01:52:04.800
Yeah, but it doesn't knock anybody out.
01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:06.319
I mean, it's not a bomb.
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:06.800
Right.
01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:07.600
Yeah.
01:52:08.399 --> 01:52:11.199
Well, we're gonna get into our improvised traps.
01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:13.359
Okay, before we do that, just scared him a little.
01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:16.319
We we gotta we gotta talk about he pooped his pants.
01:52:16.399 --> 01:52:17.680
That's why he was running.
01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:21.439
We gotta talk about Glenn's brutal demise.
01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:21.920
Okay.
01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:22.800
Ooh, yeah.
01:52:23.039 --> 01:52:26.800
Uh, because Freddie pulls Glenn into his bed.
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:27.279
Yeah.
01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:33.199
And then a geyser of blood erupts from the mattress and sprays across the ceiling.
01:52:33.439 --> 01:52:34.079
It does.
01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:36.960
The corners in the bathroom puking his guts out.
01:52:39.279 --> 01:52:46.640
They use the same gimbal room rig that they used for Tina's death, but just swapped out all the accessories so it looked like a different room.
01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:57.119
And so they turned the room completely upside down and they dumped hundreds of gallons of fake blood to make it look like the blood was shooting up from the bed, but it was actually shooting down from the bed.
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:01.039
And funny story, it got all over the shooting and camera equipment.
01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:02.319
And it spread all over.
01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:02.560
Yeah.
01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:05.760
It was a little bit more impressive than they thought.
01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:07.760
It was way more than what they were expecting.
01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:11.439
And it actually came in contact with some electrical things.
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:14.960
It's it some some crew members got some mild shock.
01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:15.840
No one died.
01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:18.960
There are rumors as people died, but but that's been refuted.
01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:19.279
Right.
01:53:19.439 --> 01:53:21.359
But there was some mild shocking.
01:53:22.159 --> 01:53:30.560
And what it did happen though is the it did short out all the lighting on set, including the electricity to the gimbal.
01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:36.319
And so then they had an out-of-control room and it was dark.
01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:42.800
Gallons of blood, gallons of blood just spinning all over the place.
01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:46.159
That's hilarious.
01:53:46.319 --> 01:53:49.119
Now, I will say though, it was a neat effect.
01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:50.239
Yeah, it was.
01:53:50.479 --> 01:53:57.439
It looked really cool when you're watching it from their perspective that they showed it because it was not only hitting the ceiling, but like flooding the ceiling.
01:53:57.680 --> 01:54:01.840
Yeah, yeah, it's spreading out, and then it was just like kind of churning on the ceiling.
01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:03.359
It was pretty cool looking.
01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:11.520
And it's one of those, if you look at it closely, you could see that this is this looks very just like lick like a waterfall, more or less, because that's what they did.
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:12.720
They created a blood waterfall.
01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:15.840
Yeah, but I think I think it not being a long shot was on purpose.
01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:16.159
Yeah.
01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:17.600
So you really couldn't figure that out.
01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:29.119
And I think what also helps is we have the shot of his mom coming in screaming, uh, and then we in that shot we get the water coming down trickling along the edge, so it kind of reinforces that it's coming back down.
01:54:29.359 --> 01:54:33.840
Um it it's it's really impressive to me.
01:54:35.039 --> 01:54:37.600
Not perfect, not perfect by any means.
01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:41.920
No, but really better than what it could have been.
01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:50.000
It kind of reminded me, because like when the blood came out, it looked real, like real blood, dark, you know, whatever.
01:54:50.399 --> 01:55:01.840
Whenever it started to come down this like walls, it reminded me of when we shot Love Sick, uh-huh, and we had this scene in the basement, and the zombie clown got his head blown up.
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:02.560
Yeah.
01:55:03.039 --> 01:55:06.319
And it was like the palest pink blood.
01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:11.520
It was like the worst, yeah, worst mixture of blood we've ever had.
01:55:12.640 --> 01:55:14.640
And it kind of ruined the scene a little bit.
01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:16.319
Like it was like fine, that's what we got.
01:55:16.640 --> 01:55:20.000
It's one of those if you're looking for it and judging it based on that, it would.
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:22.800
And that's what I saw whenever it was like coming down the walls.
01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:27.680
Like, you would think it would be like thick and heavy, and like hey, who who maked our who mixed our blood?
01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:28.960
Uh, who was that guy?
01:55:29.119 --> 01:55:30.479
Uh his name was Brad.
01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:32.239
Brad that was terrible blood.
01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:33.520
Brad was it was chunky.
01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:36.079
Brad was the he was the Del de Bravo, wasn't he?
01:55:36.399 --> 01:55:37.840
No, no, that was Noah.
01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:38.560
Oh, that was a big thing.
01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:41.920
Brad was uh my one of my suite mates in college.
01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:42.319
Okay.
01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:45.760
And uh got into acting and and you know, helped us out with a few films.
01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.800
The chunkiness of it I liked because it was supposed to be brains.
01:55:48.960 --> 01:55:49.359
Right, right.
01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:52.000
But it just didn't match the right color.
01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:53.600
Yeah, and the consistency.
01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:56.640
You know, maybe there was a bunch of like cerebral spinal fluid mixed with it.
01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:57.840
Maybe it was brain stuff.
01:55:57.920 --> 01:55:59.359
So maybe it was more accurate than we thought.
01:55:59.600 --> 01:55:59.840
I don't know.
01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:00.880
Moving on.
01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:02.720
Yeah, back to our movie.
01:56:02.800 --> 01:56:08.960
Um so anyway, um, police show up and they don't really know what to make of what just happened.
01:56:09.920 --> 01:56:11.279
What the hell did that lie?
01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:13.520
I don't know.
01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:15.840
What's the coroner got to say?
01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:18.640
Seen a giant puking since he saw it.
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:21.840
That I thought that was really funny.
01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:24.560
If the coroner is in the bathroom, they then you know it's bad.
01:56:24.800 --> 01:56:27.520
It reminded me of that uh what, Tommy Boy?
01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:28.720
Yeah, yeah.
01:56:33.680 --> 01:56:35.920
New guys in the corner just puking his guts out.
01:56:37.279 --> 01:56:39.119
I don't know if you guys noticed or not.
01:56:39.279 --> 01:56:43.279
Before Glenn got pulled into the bed, uh huh, he was watching TV.
01:56:43.439 --> 01:56:43.840
Yeah.
01:56:44.079 --> 01:56:45.520
It was around midnight.
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:46.159
Yeah.
01:56:46.399 --> 01:56:48.319
And the Star Spangled Banner started playing.
01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:48.880
Yeah, yeah.
01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:49.840
Proposal guys.
01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:50.960
It was broadcast.
01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:54.000
Yeah, that was that was a thing back then.
01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:56.399
I thought that was funny.
01:56:56.640 --> 01:56:59.920
It just like it reconfirmed what we were talking about then.
01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:04.000
So Nancy realizes she's the last one left.
01:57:04.239 --> 01:57:11.359
And you know, her dad is is uh investigating the bizarre scene across the street, and so she calls and talks to her dad.
01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:17.439
It's like, I need you to come wake me up in 20 minutes.
01:57:18.159 --> 01:57:20.000
Uh that'll be 12 30.
01:57:20.079 --> 01:57:25.199
I need you to come bust down the door at 12 30.
01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:28.800
And um he's like, Okay, sure, whatever, honey.
01:57:29.039 --> 01:57:47.279
And so then she's going to go to sleep and she's got an alarm set, and she's going to, you know, grab Freddy and bring him to the real world, and then she's got all these oh, I'm sorry, before she goes to sleep, she set some data booby traps.
01:57:47.520 --> 01:57:57.279
Yeah, she quickly, very quickly rigs the house with a series of homemade booby traps that make Kevin McAllister look like a punk ass bitch.
01:57:57.439 --> 01:57:57.760
Yes.
01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:00.800
And she did all this in like 10 minutes.
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:04.239
I mean, yeah, and then also had a conversation with her mother.
01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:04.960
Yeah.
01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:07.840
Like she, yeah, she MacGyvered that whole house.
01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:08.880
It was quick.
01:58:09.039 --> 01:58:09.760
Yeah, it was.
01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:12.880
And uh then she deliberately goes to sleep.
01:58:13.119 --> 01:58:19.119
She enters a dream world where she confronts Freddy and she grabs onto him as she wakes.
01:58:19.199 --> 01:58:24.720
Uh, so Freddie's now pulled into the real world with her, and for the first time, Freddie is physically vulnerable.
01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:29.520
Freddie chases Nancy through the house, and Nancy leads him through her homemade traps.
01:58:29.920 --> 01:58:36.319
He gets hit with a sledgehammer, the light bulb blows up, these different things are happening.
01:58:36.479 --> 01:58:39.840
Uh he's getting battered by these different contraptions.
01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:44.960
Uh, she's screaming out the window, Dad, come now, please come save me.
01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:48.800
And man, no one really seems to give a shit.
01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:53.279
Maybe I better go tell a lieutenant.
01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:54.640
Maybe I gotta go.
01:58:54.880 --> 01:58:57.119
Maybe I better tell a lieutenant thing.
01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:02.399
You know, he was he at least put a trooper outside to watch the house.
01:59:02.720 --> 01:59:10.560
But then he was watching the house about as good as the the doctor was in Halloween.
01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:11.520
Right.
01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:21.520
Somehow missing pots falling and breaking, kids screaming, murderers walking across the street, even though it was right fucking behind him the entire time.
01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:23.279
Yeah, she was breaking windows.
01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:23.680
Right.
01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:26.960
As soon as the first window breaks, I'm like, oh, I'll go get the lieutenant.
01:59:27.039 --> 01:59:28.000
It sounds like an emergency.
01:59:28.159 --> 01:59:29.520
Hey, something's happening across the street.
01:59:29.600 --> 01:59:31.840
Like nobody's just gonna break a window for no good reason.
01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:32.239
Right.
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:33.119
And scream out of it.
01:59:33.520 --> 01:59:36.239
A girl is screaming, go.
01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:40.239
You don't even have to go get her dad, just run across the street, right?
01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:50.960
So I don't know if you guys noticed, before she pulled Freddie out, she was in the dream and she's in the boiler room and stuff like that.
01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:53.439
There's a pair of headphones on the ground.
01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:56.319
Yeah, the bloody headphones are all bloody, and she picks them up.
01:59:56.399 --> 01:59:59.039
Did you notice that it had Glenn's name on them?
01:59:59.359 --> 02:00:02.880
Yeah, on the the old little uh label dyno-type label maker.
02:00:03.680 --> 02:00:10.159
It's like they had to put Glenn's name on it just so we would know those were Glenn's, and I thought that was really funny.
02:00:11.760 --> 02:00:13.439
Don't touch, they're not yours.
02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:15.199
Those are Glenn's headphones.
02:00:15.439 --> 02:00:16.640
Glenn's headphones.
02:00:17.439 --> 02:00:20.560
Eventually, she is able to set Freddy on fire.
02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:22.800
Man, that sucks to get set on fire again.
02:00:22.960 --> 02:00:23.600
Yeah.
02:00:24.800 --> 02:00:27.119
What I thought was funny, he was like, no.
02:00:29.760 --> 02:00:38.560
And she locks burning Freddie in the basement and screams again for her father and the police, and they finally do show up.
02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:44.079
Uh but the basement is empty.
02:00:44.560 --> 02:00:56.960
But but Nancy and Dad follow a path of flaming footprints up the stairs where they discover Freddie attacking Marge in her bedroom.
02:00:57.119 --> 02:00:57.760
Yeah.
02:00:58.000 --> 02:01:02.399
Uh Don extinguishes the flames, and then Freddie disappears.
02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:06.399
So this part was real fucking weird to me.
02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:09.760
So they're in reality at this point.
02:01:09.920 --> 02:01:10.079
Yeah.
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This is not a dream.
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No.
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Or is it?
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And mom Mom's sleeping.
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Mom's sleeping.
02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:20.960
So Freddie escaped by jumping into her dream.
02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:21.600
Okay.
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That's that's how I rationalize it.
02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:23.760
Okay.
02:01:24.000 --> 02:01:24.319
Alright.
02:01:24.479 --> 02:01:25.439
That makes sense.
02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:36.640
But you have awake people in the room, and somehow mom is a burned to a crisp skeleton at this point.
02:01:36.880 --> 02:01:39.279
And then she also just kind of sucks into the bed.
02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:39.760
Right.
02:01:39.920 --> 02:01:41.520
And the bed's glowing.
02:01:41.840 --> 02:01:44.239
And she gets sucked into it, and then she's gone.
02:01:44.399 --> 02:01:48.560
Like, that was probably the weirdest part of this movie to me.
02:01:49.199 --> 02:01:52.720
Like, why was that in there?
02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:54.880
What did that do?
02:01:55.039 --> 02:01:56.640
Like, what happened to Mom?
02:01:56.960 --> 02:02:03.199
I I think it was showing that he was pulling mom into her dream state and taking her away.
02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:08.800
I'm going to throw out the suggestion that they were never awake to begin with.
02:02:10.640 --> 02:02:11.199
Ooh.
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That's weird.
02:02:13.279 --> 02:02:13.600
Yeah.
02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:16.560
I mean, I think that's I don't think Nancy ever woke up.
02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:18.239
But you know what's even more weird?
02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:19.760
What happens next.
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Yeah.
02:02:20.800 --> 02:02:26.640
Because uh So yeah, Marge is pulled down into the bed and she vanishes.
02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:33.920
Then Don Despite the fact her daughter's boyfriend just got essentially liquefied.
02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:34.319
Yep.
02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:41.520
And that she just witnessed her mother burn into a core or into a skeleton and get sucked into a mattress.
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:42.239
Right.
02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:43.840
Loving mattress.
02:02:44.079 --> 02:02:44.239
Yeah.
02:02:44.319 --> 02:02:46.479
He's like, um, peace out.
02:02:47.520 --> 02:02:48.239
You good?
02:02:48.560 --> 02:02:49.279
You good, yeah.
02:02:49.920 --> 02:02:50.720
I gotta get a sandwich.
02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:51.840
All right, so I'll be back.
02:02:52.079 --> 02:02:53.279
I gotta work more.
02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:54.560
Right?
02:02:55.680 --> 02:02:57.359
Yeah, I'm good.
02:02:57.920 --> 02:03:01.920
Yeah, and uh no, like take her with you.
02:03:02.159 --> 02:03:09.279
And so then Freddie suddenly rises from behind Nancy.
02:03:09.520 --> 02:03:11.680
So mom had latex sheets.
02:03:15.520 --> 02:03:15.760
Uh-huh.
02:03:17.920 --> 02:03:19.439
Gotta protect that mattress.
02:03:20.239 --> 02:03:22.000
I know the secret now.
02:03:23.359 --> 02:03:25.119
This is just a dream.
02:03:25.920 --> 02:03:27.279
You're not alive.
02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:31.119
This whole thing is just a dream.
02:03:33.920 --> 02:03:36.479
I want my mother and friend again.
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:45.279
You're nothing.
02:03:49.680 --> 02:03:51.199
Now you just hurt his feelings.
02:03:55.920 --> 02:03:58.479
So then Freddie evaporates.
02:03:58.720 --> 02:03:59.600
This is terrible.
02:03:59.840 --> 02:04:01.199
That was pretty cheesy.
02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:05.279
Uh, and everything seems like it's all good.
02:04:05.439 --> 02:04:08.960
She's defeated Freddy by taking the fear away.
02:04:10.239 --> 02:04:10.880
How?
02:04:11.600 --> 02:04:12.479
Or did she?
02:04:13.039 --> 02:04:14.960
Just by telling him that he's shit.
02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:15.359
Yeah.
02:04:15.600 --> 02:04:19.840
Maybe Freddie Freddy's energy feeds on fear.
02:04:21.199 --> 02:04:23.920
Well, I mean, that's she basically says that.
02:04:24.079 --> 02:04:24.399
Yeah.
02:04:24.800 --> 02:04:26.640
Freddie just didn't like his feelings.
02:04:27.279 --> 02:04:31.279
Because that's what her boyfriend told her on the Venice Bridge in Cleveland, Ohio.
02:04:31.520 --> 02:04:32.159
Yeah.
02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:39.359
Um but how did she?
02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:41.439
Because I'm sorry.
02:04:41.680 --> 02:04:47.119
She's been running and afraid and dealing with all these things, and everything she's been doing is out of fear.
02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:49.920
And her boyfriend, again, just got liquefied.
02:04:50.079 --> 02:04:53.520
Her mother just got torched, cooked.
02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:54.319
Well done.
02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:56.800
And suddenly now she's no longer afraid.
02:04:56.960 --> 02:04:58.640
I guess does she no longer have anything to lose?
02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:04.720
And that's that's you know, I mean, I guess she could kill my my douchebag of a dad who used me as bait earlier.
02:05:04.960 --> 02:05:06.079
And then left me.
02:05:08.319 --> 02:05:08.960
Yeah.
02:05:09.279 --> 02:05:14.000
Left me in the house with my my mom who got burned to a crisp and disappeared into the bed.
02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:17.920
But but it it's and the guy who was on fire walking through the house.
02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:20.000
Whatever.
02:05:20.239 --> 02:05:21.359
We just put the fire out.
02:05:21.520 --> 02:05:22.640
We're gonna go now.
02:05:24.079 --> 02:05:28.159
It just seems like a big turnaround to suddenly say, I'm not scared anymore.
02:05:28.319 --> 02:05:28.640
Yeah.
02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:29.920
Yeah, it is.
02:05:30.319 --> 02:05:34.720
But but but I think also she straight up says here, this has always been a dream.
02:05:34.960 --> 02:05:38.399
I think that she's right now is not the real world.
02:05:38.479 --> 02:05:40.479
I think she is in her dream world.
02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:42.000
Okay.
02:05:42.640 --> 02:05:47.840
I think this whole thing from the moment Well, that point, the only way Freddie can get to her is in her dream.
02:05:48.079 --> 02:05:48.720
Yeah.
02:05:49.840 --> 02:05:56.560
So her even plotting to pull him out into the real world was just a dream inside of a dream.
02:05:56.960 --> 02:06:05.520
I think that part was probably real, but I think everything after Glenn gets liquefied, everything else is Nancy's dream.
02:06:06.720 --> 02:06:12.960
Like she didn't actually she went to sleep with this plan, but she didn't actually wake up.
02:06:14.880 --> 02:06:15.840
She's stuck in the dream.
02:06:16.159 --> 02:06:17.199
So it's my thought.
02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:21.600
Does she even know then that Glenn is liquefied?
02:06:21.920 --> 02:06:22.319
Oh yeah.
02:06:22.960 --> 02:06:28.239
Because she called her dad and told her to come that part, I think, happened.
02:06:28.479 --> 02:06:32.000
Yeah, because she's like, is he I know he's dead, and he's like, Yeah.
02:06:32.319 --> 02:06:33.920
But did any of it happen?
02:06:34.239 --> 02:06:34.640
Maybe.
02:06:34.880 --> 02:06:37.520
Well, maybe this is all Tina's nightmare.
02:06:37.840 --> 02:06:39.039
Damn it, Tina.
02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:41.920
Wait, we find out in the next scene.
02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:42.720
Right?
02:06:43.039 --> 02:06:43.600
Do we?
02:06:44.159 --> 02:06:45.119
Do we, Brian?
02:06:45.279 --> 02:06:46.640
This is a total recall moment.
02:06:46.800 --> 02:06:47.840
We find out something.
02:06:48.880 --> 02:06:49.600
So, yeah.
02:06:49.760 --> 02:06:55.920
So after this, suddenly Nancy steps out into a bright, strangely foggy morning.
02:06:56.319 --> 02:06:57.920
And mom's gonna quit drinking.
02:06:58.159 --> 02:07:00.560
Mom's alive and she's not gonna drink anymore.
02:07:00.800 --> 02:07:02.079
Yeah, why is mom alive now?
02:07:02.319 --> 02:07:03.439
And you know who else is alive?
02:07:03.680 --> 02:07:07.199
Tina and Rod and Glenn, and they're rolling a convertible together.
02:07:07.359 --> 02:07:11.199
And they're pulling to pick up Nancy because they're gonna go do stuff.
02:07:11.439 --> 02:07:12.720
And then Nancy.
02:07:13.920 --> 02:07:15.039
I thought they were going to school.
02:07:15.279 --> 02:07:22.880
Maybe, which they'll do, they'll do stuff there because it's a happy, it's a happy foggy day where everything is goddamn white except for the convertible.
02:07:22.960 --> 02:07:25.039
And she gets in the convertible and they start to drive away.
02:07:25.119 --> 02:07:29.760
But whoa, lo and behold, the top pops up and it's red and green striped.
02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:33.119
And I thought it was kind of a cool touch.
02:07:33.520 --> 02:07:34.640
The door's locked.
02:07:34.960 --> 02:07:39.119
The car drives away on its own with Nancy, Glenn Tina, and Rod trapped inside.
02:07:39.279 --> 02:07:40.800
Marge watches from the doorway.
02:07:41.039 --> 02:07:45.119
Children are jumping rope nearby singing the uh Freddie's nursery rhyme.
02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:54.079
Uh, and then Freddie's arm bursts through the front door window, which is all of about six inches wide, grabs Marge around the waist and yanks her through the tiny opening.
02:07:54.159 --> 02:07:59.439
Uh, she screams, creepy kids keep singing, and that's the movie.
02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:01.119
That's the movie.
02:08:04.079 --> 02:08:05.199
That is the movie.
02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:06.000
It is.
02:08:06.479 --> 02:08:07.600
That's the movie.
02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:14.399
Now, if if Wes Craven had his way, this last little dream part of the movie would not be in the movie.
02:08:15.039 --> 02:08:18.239
He wanted to leave it with Nancy winning.
02:08:18.560 --> 02:08:18.880
Okay.
02:08:19.199 --> 02:08:19.760
I like that.
02:08:19.920 --> 02:08:20.960
I like that way better.
02:08:21.119 --> 02:08:25.760
But Robert Shea, uh, the guy at New Line, he's like, no, no.
02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:29.920
We need we want to make this leave the door open for sequels.
02:08:30.399 --> 02:08:34.479
So we want to add it in to where Freddy wins.
02:08:34.800 --> 02:08:36.960
You know that makes sense because that last scene.
02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:39.039
Or at least leave it open.
02:08:39.279 --> 02:08:40.560
It looked like an add-in.
02:08:40.720 --> 02:08:40.960
Yeah.
02:08:41.199 --> 02:08:42.720
It looked like it didn't belong.
02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:45.039
That's really interesting.
02:08:45.920 --> 02:08:51.199
Because that makes sense with my magic wand time.
02:08:51.840 --> 02:08:52.159
Okay.
02:08:52.560 --> 02:08:55.840
That uh I didn't know any of those things.
02:08:55.920 --> 02:08:57.119
So that's interesting.
02:08:57.439 --> 02:09:08.800
Well, now that we've talked about the movie, let's take a moment and talk about third beer of the podcast.
02:09:09.359 --> 02:09:12.000
Bri, I'm sorry, Justin, that's me.
02:09:12.239 --> 02:09:13.279
You brought this beer.
02:09:13.439 --> 02:09:13.920
I did.
02:09:14.079 --> 02:09:15.359
Tell us all about it.
02:09:15.600 --> 02:09:20.239
Alright, so I brought Four Hands Brewing Oktoberfest.
02:09:20.399 --> 02:09:22.319
Ooh, second four hands of the night.
02:09:22.399 --> 02:09:24.159
It is the second four hands of the night.
02:09:24.239 --> 02:09:25.600
It's a lager beer.
02:09:25.920 --> 02:09:28.880
It is 5.5% alcohol.
02:09:30.319 --> 02:09:33.680
And it is okay.
02:09:35.920 --> 02:09:38.079
I thought an Oktoberfest was a Martson.
02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:38.479
It is.
02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:40.720
Is a Martson a lager?
02:09:40.800 --> 02:09:41.199
It is.
02:09:41.359 --> 02:09:42.000
Yeah.
02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:48.159
Uh, but if you had not told me this was an Oktoberfest, I would not guess that it was an Oktoberfest.
02:09:48.399 --> 02:09:49.920
It's a decent lager.
02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:52.079
I don't get Oktoberfest from this.
02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:53.199
I don't get a whole lot either.
02:09:53.359 --> 02:09:53.680
Right.
02:09:53.760 --> 02:10:03.199
It's not it's not a bad beer, but it definitely doesn't have all the characteristics that I love about an Oktoberfest.
02:10:03.520 --> 02:10:05.279
I love an Oktoberfest beer.
02:10:05.359 --> 02:10:05.520
Yeah.
02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:07.119
It's one of my faves.
02:10:07.680 --> 02:10:09.119
I don't get it from this.
02:10:09.439 --> 02:10:09.760
No.
02:10:10.079 --> 02:10:11.520
Again, it's a decent locker.
02:10:11.760 --> 02:10:13.439
It's a good drinkable beer.
02:10:13.600 --> 02:10:16.640
Um, but no, it's it's not what it claims to be.
02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:18.640
Yeah, I don't I don't hate it.
02:10:19.920 --> 02:10:26.159
But yeah, it's a it's on the thin side and it it is not as flavorful as some of the other Oktoberfests that I've had.
02:10:26.399 --> 02:10:28.880
And the color doesn't remind me of an Oktoberfest.
02:10:29.279 --> 02:10:31.119
I didn't even see the color.
02:10:31.600 --> 02:10:36.000
Oh, looking at the rim of the can, it looks just like a bud light, right?
02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:39.840
Okay.
02:10:40.640 --> 02:10:43.840
Well, we've had three beers tonight.
02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:45.279
We've had three beers.
02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:49.359
I I don't think any of them have been bad.
02:10:49.760 --> 02:10:51.279
Just none have been great.
02:10:51.520 --> 02:10:53.439
None of them have knocked my socks off.
02:10:53.600 --> 02:10:55.279
Yeah, they're all living in mediocrity.
02:10:55.600 --> 02:10:59.680
I will have no problem finishing this beer as I have the other two.
02:10:59.840 --> 02:11:00.319
I'll drink it.
02:11:00.479 --> 02:11:03.279
It's it's I don't I wouldn't buy this.
02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:05.439
I've had much better Oktoberfest.
02:11:05.600 --> 02:11:06.079
For sure.
02:11:06.239 --> 02:11:07.439
Yep, absolutely.
02:11:07.680 --> 02:11:13.199
And maybe if this was your first time trying Oktoberfest, it might be a good training wheel Oktoberfest.
02:11:13.359 --> 02:11:13.760
It could be.
02:11:13.920 --> 02:11:17.279
But is really is an Oktoberfest that different that you need you need training?
02:11:18.000 --> 02:11:18.399
I don't know.
02:11:18.560 --> 02:11:21.520
I'm just saying I'm trying to find positivity.
02:11:21.920 --> 02:11:22.479
Good for you.
02:11:22.640 --> 02:11:23.600
Um you're a good human.
02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:28.880
If you're having a hard time getting into an Oktoberfest, then you should probably just not drink beer.
02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:31.520
You know, Seth, you're the kind of guy who holds the door open for somebody.
02:11:31.680 --> 02:11:32.079
I do.
02:11:32.159 --> 02:11:32.479
Yeah.
02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:38.800
Sometimes aggressively for a long time, for them to only come up, stare you straight in the eye, and open the other door.
02:11:38.960 --> 02:11:40.239
Well, that guy was a dick.
02:11:40.399 --> 02:11:41.760
Not awkward at all.
02:11:43.359 --> 02:11:44.239
Anywho.
02:11:44.560 --> 02:11:45.600
So we have beer.
02:11:45.760 --> 02:11:46.640
We have beer.
02:11:46.880 --> 02:11:48.319
And now I have a question.
02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:48.880
Okay.
02:11:49.439 --> 02:11:59.760
If you could wave your magic wand and change one thing and one thing only about a nightmare on Elm Street to make it a better movie, what would it be?
02:12:00.800 --> 02:12:01.760
Ooh, can I go?
02:12:01.920 --> 02:12:02.239
Can I go?
02:12:02.479 --> 02:12:02.720
Do it.
02:12:02.960 --> 02:12:04.000
You sure can do it.
02:12:04.399 --> 02:12:05.520
I'd get rid of the camp.
02:12:06.159 --> 02:12:06.720
The camp?
02:12:07.439 --> 02:12:07.760
Yeah.
02:12:08.159 --> 02:12:09.039
You didn't like the camp?
02:12:09.199 --> 02:12:10.000
I didn't like the camp.
02:12:10.079 --> 02:12:14.640
I thought this could have been a genuinely really good, scary, frightening movie.
02:12:15.199 --> 02:12:20.239
And for that, I need to get rid of the tongue coming out of the phone.
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:24.800
I need to get rid of the I know you like the expanding arms.
02:12:25.520 --> 02:12:26.800
I didn't care for that.
02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:32.640
In fact, I thought it would have been better if Freddie didn't talk at all.
02:12:33.439 --> 02:12:33.760
Okay.
02:12:35.039 --> 02:12:35.439
Alright.
02:12:35.600 --> 02:12:35.920
Yeah.
02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:40.399
I I think it could have been a truly, really good spine tingler.
02:12:40.720 --> 02:12:41.600
That in the ending.
02:12:42.399 --> 02:12:42.800
You know what?
02:12:42.880 --> 02:12:43.520
I get that though.
02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:44.079
I do.
02:12:44.239 --> 02:12:44.960
I could see that.
02:12:45.039 --> 02:12:47.680
I could see that version of it being really good.
02:12:47.920 --> 02:12:48.399
Oh yeah.
02:12:48.640 --> 02:12:49.039
For sure.
02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:51.359
But I do like the camera.
02:12:52.640 --> 02:12:53.119
Same.
02:12:53.840 --> 02:12:55.119
Justin, what do you got?
02:12:55.359 --> 02:12:59.920
So I would make the ending more decisive and less confusing.
02:13:00.479 --> 02:13:00.640
Yeah.
02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:01.760
It's a little ambiguous.
02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:03.439
It's real weird.
02:13:03.680 --> 02:13:11.600
So they spend the entire movie building a pretty terrifying idea, right?
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.760
Like that Freddie can invade your dreams, and parents have been hiding this truth.
02:13:16.079 --> 02:13:19.359
And it builds up to the a the battle against Freddy.
02:13:19.680 --> 02:13:19.920
Right.
02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:20.399
Yeah.
02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:25.199
And then all of a sudden it's like you're waiting for that payoff, right?
02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:31.119
And what you get though is it's like did Nancy win?
02:13:32.880 --> 02:13:34.239
Did she lose?
02:13:36.479 --> 02:13:37.359
Is it a dream?
02:13:37.520 --> 02:13:38.880
Is it a dream inside a dream?
02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:41.199
Did the studio want a sequel?
02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:43.439
All the above.
02:13:44.720 --> 02:13:45.359
I don't know.
02:13:45.520 --> 02:13:48.479
Like it because they did, like, they even went as far.
02:13:48.560 --> 02:13:53.680
Like, I know like in the dream sequences, they were like kind of cloudy, foggy.
02:13:53.840 --> 02:13:54.159
Uh-huh.
02:13:54.399 --> 02:13:58.880
And then Johnny Depp's characters, like, oh, can you believe this fog?
02:13:59.439 --> 02:14:05.119
And they tried to sell it as it wasn't a dream, but yet dream things happened.
02:14:05.359 --> 02:14:11.359
Yeah, they were I don't know if they're trying to sell it as it wasn't a dream, but I think they really were hammering that this is a dream.
02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:14.960
And it's just, it just like you know me.
02:14:15.039 --> 02:14:17.359
Like, I like my movies to tie up in a bow.
02:14:18.159 --> 02:14:19.359
And this didn't do it.
02:14:19.439 --> 02:14:25.680
It just left it so wide open, and like it almost makes you wonder was the entire movie a dream?
02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:27.760
And if it is, then fuck you.
02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:28.880
You know what I mean?
02:14:28.960 --> 02:14:30.800
Like that's the easy out.
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:31.119
Right.
02:14:31.279 --> 02:14:32.640
Saying, oh, the whole thing is a dream.
02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:33.439
Ha ha ha.
02:14:33.520 --> 02:14:34.159
I gotcha.
02:14:34.399 --> 02:14:34.560
Right.
02:14:34.800 --> 02:14:35.680
Fold your leg.
02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:36.319
Yeah.
02:14:36.640 --> 02:14:37.439
Nah, I don't know.
02:14:37.520 --> 02:14:38.159
That's what I would do.
02:14:38.239 --> 02:14:40.079
I'd I'd make the ending more decisive.
02:14:40.319 --> 02:14:49.279
Uh, I we already touched on mine somewhat, but I think the biggest problem I have is that they need to remove the mystery of Fred Krueger.
02:14:49.680 --> 02:14:54.960
Uh Marge says that they were already parents when they hunted Freddie down and burned him alive.
02:14:55.199 --> 02:14:58.079
And Nancy's like, what, 15, 16, somewhere around there?
02:14:58.239 --> 02:14:58.880
Somewhere in there.
02:14:59.039 --> 02:15:02.079
So so this happened within the last 15 years.
02:15:03.279 --> 02:15:07.600
Freddie didn't just kill one kid, he killed half the goddamn street.
02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:08.399
20.
02:15:08.560 --> 02:15:08.800
Yeah.
02:15:08.960 --> 02:15:09.600
20 kids.
02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:18.239
He was arrested, went through the legal system, got released on technicality, and then burned alive in a boiler room all in their hometown.
02:15:18.479 --> 02:15:18.800
Yeah.
02:15:19.039 --> 02:15:26.479
They had news coverage showing Tina being hauled away on a gurney and her arm flopping out of a body bag.
02:15:27.199 --> 02:15:31.279
You can't tell me there wasn't news coverage of Fred Kruger.
02:15:31.600 --> 02:15:31.920
Right.
02:15:32.239 --> 02:15:34.239
People would know about this thing.
02:15:34.479 --> 02:15:38.800
So the fact that that that Nancy's like, who's Fred Krueger?
02:15:39.039 --> 02:15:40.319
Is bullshit.
02:15:40.560 --> 02:15:40.880
Right.
02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:42.399
Because this is the exact thing.
02:15:42.479 --> 02:15:47.520
Even in predating the internet, is the exact kind of stuff urban legends are built upon.
02:15:47.760 --> 02:15:48.159
Oh, sure.
02:15:48.239 --> 02:15:51.039
And if that happened in that small town, it would be all over the place.
02:15:59.520 --> 02:16:01.520
That Freddy is a known thing.
02:16:01.680 --> 02:16:08.720
This is something you're supposed to be scared of, but somehow these kids, 15 years removed, have no idea what happened.
02:16:08.960 --> 02:16:10.960
And 15 years is not long.
02:16:11.199 --> 02:16:11.439
No.
02:16:11.760 --> 02:16:18.399
Now I'm fine with them not knowing that their parents are vigilante murderers, and that being the big reveal.
02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:23.359
But they should know the story about the Freddie Krueger should be a built-in fear.
02:16:23.520 --> 02:16:30.720
Freddy Krueger should be the adva the cautionary tale these child these parents have been telling their kids since they were infants.
02:16:31.039 --> 02:16:32.959
Yeah, that's why you don't talk to strangers.
02:16:33.120 --> 02:16:33.200
Yeah.
02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:34.319
Because of Freddie Krueger.
02:16:34.559 --> 02:16:35.520
That's Fred Krueger.
02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:40.639
So yeah, my magic wand, make Freddie something these kids are already scared of.
02:16:40.879 --> 02:16:41.440
I can see that.
02:16:41.600 --> 02:16:43.280
I think that would make it even spookier.
02:16:43.440 --> 02:16:44.239
I think it would too.
02:16:44.399 --> 02:16:44.719
Yeah.
02:16:44.959 --> 02:16:53.200
Like if they already knew the lore, and you could open it up as them sitting around talking about Freddie.
02:16:53.440 --> 02:16:53.680
Right.
02:16:53.840 --> 02:16:57.200
You know, and like scaring each other in like a campfire or something.
02:16:57.440 --> 02:17:06.959
You could have the a parent telling their child and going from household to household while they're telling the same story.
02:17:07.760 --> 02:17:13.360
So that would introduce you to the characters, it would introduce you to the families, and it would tell you the story.
02:17:13.680 --> 02:17:14.799
I think that would be cool.
02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:16.079
It would be.
02:17:16.959 --> 02:17:17.520
Now.
02:17:17.840 --> 02:17:18.159
Yeah.
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:19.600
Let's do something different.
02:17:19.760 --> 02:17:20.000
Okay.
02:17:20.319 --> 02:17:21.920
I like different stuff.
02:17:22.239 --> 02:17:22.959
Uh-oh.
02:17:24.079 --> 02:17:27.840
I'm going to try something I may very well regret.
02:17:29.280 --> 02:17:30.959
He's counting on us to be smart.
02:17:31.200 --> 02:17:31.680
Damn it.
02:17:31.920 --> 02:17:32.399
I'm not.
02:17:32.639 --> 02:17:32.959
Okay.
02:17:34.079 --> 02:17:43.840
We're going to do a little something I call Nightmare on Mad Lib Street.
02:17:45.760 --> 02:17:48.079
You guys know how Mad Libs work.
02:17:48.319 --> 02:17:48.559
Oh yeah.
02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:49.680
You're going to regret this.
02:17:50.079 --> 02:17:50.719
I have no doubt.
02:17:50.879 --> 02:17:51.680
It's going to be bad.
02:17:51.760 --> 02:17:52.159
Uh-huh.
02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:56.479
I know this going in, this is a mistake.
02:17:56.719 --> 02:17:57.280
Yep.
02:17:57.760 --> 02:17:59.600
But those are the best moments.
02:18:01.040 --> 02:18:04.079
So I'm going to go between the two of you and I'm going to ask for things.
02:18:04.239 --> 02:18:04.399
Okay.
02:18:04.559 --> 02:18:05.840
And you're just going to give them to me.
02:18:05.920 --> 02:18:09.920
I'm going to put them in, and then we're going to see what concoction we come up with.
02:18:10.079 --> 02:18:10.399
Okay.
02:18:10.719 --> 02:18:11.120
Alright.
02:18:11.280 --> 02:18:12.639
Alright, so Brian.
02:18:12.799 --> 02:18:13.360
Yes.
02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:15.440
Give me a location.
02:18:17.280 --> 02:18:18.559
A location.
02:18:19.920 --> 02:18:21.600
I'm going to go with.
02:18:27.360 --> 02:18:31.200
Local or international or anyplace?
02:18:31.520 --> 02:18:32.479
Any place.
02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:39.520
All right, let's go with San Diego.
02:18:39.760 --> 02:18:40.079
Okay.
02:18:43.840 --> 02:18:46.879
Which is Spanish for Wheels China.
02:18:48.079 --> 02:18:48.719
Right.
02:18:51.280 --> 02:18:54.239
Uh Justin, give me an adjective.
02:18:54.799 --> 02:18:55.840
Oh man.
02:18:58.479 --> 02:18:58.799
Okay.
02:19:02.399 --> 02:19:05.120
Which is a word that describes a noun.
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:10.319
Thank you.
02:19:14.079 --> 02:19:14.399
Um.
02:19:19.440 --> 02:19:21.120
Why am I having a hard time with this?
02:19:21.280 --> 02:19:21.840
I don't know.
02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:22.959
I don't know either.
02:19:23.120 --> 02:19:24.000
Shut up.
02:19:31.920 --> 02:19:33.440
Any anytime's good.
02:19:33.760 --> 02:19:34.159
Anytime?
02:19:34.319 --> 02:19:34.719
Anytime.
02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:36.000
Right now.
02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:37.600
That'd be better.
02:19:38.159 --> 02:19:39.120
Earlier would have been better.
02:19:39.360 --> 02:19:41.600
Can I can I wait like 10 minutes?
02:19:42.719 --> 02:19:44.559
How bad do you want to be punched?
02:19:46.479 --> 02:19:47.040
Very.
02:19:48.239 --> 02:19:49.840
Uh adjective.
02:19:49.920 --> 02:19:50.239
Okay.
02:19:52.399 --> 02:19:53.120
Blue.
02:19:54.639 --> 02:19:57.280
Ladies and gentlemen, we waited that long for blue.
02:19:57.600 --> 02:19:58.879
You got blue.
02:19:59.440 --> 02:20:00.079
All right.
02:20:02.879 --> 02:20:05.040
Give me the name of a celebrity.
02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:07.600
Helen Miran.
02:20:08.000 --> 02:20:10.559
Justin, give me a body part.
02:20:11.120 --> 02:20:11.920
Penis.
02:20:12.639 --> 02:20:13.760
You mean joint?
02:20:14.079 --> 02:20:14.399
Joint.
02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:17.600
Wish I had a weed now.
02:20:19.680 --> 02:20:20.159
All right.
02:20:20.719 --> 02:20:22.959
Brian, give me a household object.
02:20:23.360 --> 02:20:24.399
Pizza cutter.
02:20:24.719 --> 02:20:27.680
Justin, give me a verb ending in ING.
02:20:28.479 --> 02:20:29.200
Running.
02:20:29.440 --> 02:20:29.840
Alright.
02:20:30.000 --> 02:20:30.479
Brian.
02:20:30.559 --> 02:20:30.799
Yeah.
02:20:31.440 --> 02:20:32.239
Food.
02:20:32.879 --> 02:20:33.760
Maloney.
02:20:34.000 --> 02:20:37.040
Justin, what is something you wouldn't want to find in your bed?
02:20:37.920 --> 02:20:38.799
Horse head.
02:20:40.399 --> 02:20:41.200
Original.
02:20:41.600 --> 02:20:41.920
Yeah.
02:20:44.879 --> 02:20:46.559
Brian, give me an animal.
02:20:46.879 --> 02:20:49.040
I'm going to go with a sea turtle.
02:20:50.479 --> 02:20:50.719
Okay.
02:20:51.120 --> 02:20:51.840
Original.
02:20:54.639 --> 02:20:57.040
Justin, give me an article of clothing.
02:20:58.639 --> 02:20:59.600
Underwear.
02:20:59.840 --> 02:21:01.040
Uh Brian.
02:21:02.399 --> 02:21:04.239
Give me a bodily fluid.
02:21:04.879 --> 02:21:05.680
Oh boy.
02:21:06.959 --> 02:21:08.399
I'm going to go with snot.
02:21:08.719 --> 02:21:08.959
Okay.
02:21:09.440 --> 02:21:09.760
Snat.
02:21:10.799 --> 02:21:11.600
It's like the high road.
02:21:11.920 --> 02:21:12.479
Snot funny.
02:21:14.719 --> 02:21:17.600
Justin, tell me uh something that's soft.
02:21:17.920 --> 02:21:18.799
Uh boob.
02:21:19.280 --> 02:21:19.920
Yes.
02:21:23.440 --> 02:21:24.799
Very nice and soft.
02:21:25.040 --> 02:21:25.600
Right.
02:21:27.280 --> 02:21:28.559
That is correct.
02:21:30.719 --> 02:21:32.239
Alright, uh, Brian.
02:21:32.399 --> 02:21:35.120
Uh tell me a movie character.
02:21:35.440 --> 02:21:36.719
Indiana Jones.
02:21:37.040 --> 02:21:37.920
Justin.
02:21:38.879 --> 02:21:40.319
Tell me a song lyric.
02:21:40.799 --> 02:21:43.040
It's gonna be a song we've never heard of.
02:21:47.040 --> 02:21:50.639
Oh, that's okay.
02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:55.440
Um I'm the Firestarter.
02:21:55.840 --> 02:21:58.079
Oh, that's the Firestarter.
02:21:59.520 --> 02:22:00.159
We've all heard of that.
02:22:00.239 --> 02:22:00.959
That's a good one, yeah.
02:22:01.680 --> 02:22:02.879
I went with something you guys would know.
02:22:02.959 --> 02:22:04.799
I thought you were gonna be like The Prodigy.
02:22:05.040 --> 02:22:10.719
The nice The Dusty Road is Golden by some band nobody's ever heard of.
02:22:10.959 --> 02:22:14.639
I was gonna I was gonna go with the Taylor Swift lyric, but I decided not to.
02:22:15.040 --> 02:22:15.920
Shake it off.
02:22:16.159 --> 02:22:16.559
You know what?
02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:18.000
The Reggies would have loved it though.
02:22:18.079 --> 02:22:18.399
They would have.
02:22:18.559 --> 02:22:18.799
They would have.
02:22:19.280 --> 02:22:21.360
Uh Brian, tell me an insult.
02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:22.639
Smelly.
02:22:23.520 --> 02:22:24.399
Snelly.
02:22:24.799 --> 02:22:26.799
Uh Justin, give me a verb.
02:22:27.040 --> 02:22:28.879
So we're looking for an action word.
02:22:29.120 --> 02:22:31.440
Right, I know what a verb is.
02:22:32.799 --> 02:22:34.959
But to pick one, I hate doing that.
02:22:35.360 --> 02:22:36.000
I'm gonna do.
02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:38.399
You're not gonna insult the verbs you leave out.
02:22:38.479 --> 02:22:39.120
Just pick one.
02:22:39.280 --> 02:22:41.360
Ah, but I don't want to hurt their feelings.
02:22:42.159 --> 02:22:44.159
I want all the verbs.
02:22:44.959 --> 02:22:46.559
Uh jump.
02:22:46.799 --> 02:22:48.159
Brian, give me a number.
02:22:49.520 --> 02:22:50.879
Oh, you gotta go 13.
02:22:51.120 --> 02:22:54.639
All right, Justin, give me a plural noun.
02:22:56.079 --> 02:22:57.600
Something that ends with S.
02:23:04.719 --> 02:23:05.280
Forks.
02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:08.799
Uh Brian, give me a sound effect.
02:23:12.079 --> 02:23:17.440
Okay, and Justin, something you might yell during sex.
02:23:23.200 --> 02:23:24.719
I don't know what I thought you were gonna say.
02:23:24.879 --> 02:23:25.040
Yeah?
02:23:25.120 --> 02:23:25.200
Yeah.
02:23:25.440 --> 02:23:26.159
What were you thinking of?
02:23:26.799 --> 02:23:29.440
All right, and last one, get that sheep.
02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:33.200
Maybe that's what that sheep was doing in the hallway.
02:23:33.680 --> 02:23:34.000
Maybe.
02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:36.479
That's what dreams are made of.
02:23:36.719 --> 02:23:36.959
Yes.
02:23:37.360 --> 02:23:39.680
To finish this up, give me a noun.
02:23:40.719 --> 02:23:42.159
The person placing thing.
02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:46.479
Come on, Mr.
02:23:46.559 --> 02:23:47.040
Mensah.
02:23:47.200 --> 02:23:47.920
You're smart.
02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:48.959
Right?
02:23:49.200 --> 02:23:50.959
I'm gonna go with beer.
02:23:51.440 --> 02:23:51.920
Burr.
02:23:53.040 --> 02:23:53.440
All right.
02:23:53.520 --> 02:23:54.559
This is gonna be a disaster.
02:23:56.079 --> 02:23:56.799
A pleasant disaster.
02:23:57.120 --> 02:23:58.159
All right, gentlemen.
02:23:58.399 --> 02:23:59.680
Close your eyes.
02:24:00.239 --> 02:24:00.959
You've fallen.
02:24:02.000 --> 02:24:02.399
Like really?
02:24:02.559 --> 02:24:03.680
I really close my eyes?
02:24:03.920 --> 02:24:04.079
No.
02:24:04.399 --> 02:24:04.559
Okay.
02:24:04.879 --> 02:24:05.840
God damn it.
02:24:06.639 --> 02:24:08.159
Because I was gonna close my eyes.
02:24:08.399 --> 02:24:08.639
I'm in.
02:24:08.719 --> 02:24:10.159
I'm in the I'm I'm gonna close my eyes.
02:24:10.319 --> 02:24:11.040
My eyes are closed.
02:24:11.280 --> 02:24:12.799
Why do I spend time with you two?
02:24:14.399 --> 02:24:15.440
I can't see you.
02:24:15.680 --> 02:24:18.399
I think this is the time where we're supposed to shut up and let him talk.
02:24:18.559 --> 02:24:18.799
Oh.
02:24:18.959 --> 02:24:20.000
No, I don't care.
02:24:20.319 --> 02:24:21.760
You've fallen asleep.
02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:27.040
When you open your eyes, you're standing completely alone in San Diego.
02:24:27.760 --> 02:24:29.440
Something feels wrong.
02:24:29.680 --> 02:24:33.120
The entire place is strangely blue.
02:24:33.600 --> 02:24:37.680
And somewhere in the distance, you can hear children quietly singing.
02:24:38.079 --> 02:24:41.200
One, two, Freddy's coming for you.
02:24:41.840 --> 02:24:45.520
Suddenly, Helen Miren walks out of the darkness.
02:24:45.760 --> 02:24:49.600
You try to call out to them, but they slowly turn around.
02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:52.959
And instead of a face, they have a giant penis.
02:24:55.040 --> 02:24:56.479
They point behind you.
02:24:56.639 --> 02:24:57.600
You turn around.
02:24:57.840 --> 02:25:01.520
Freddy Krueger is standing there, but something is different.
02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:05.760
Instead of his razor glove, Freddy is holding a pizza cutter.
02:25:06.319 --> 02:25:10.399
He raises it over his head and starts running toward you.
02:25:10.639 --> 02:25:11.280
You run.
02:25:11.600 --> 02:25:16.559
You burst through a door and suddenly find yourself inside your childhood bedroom.
02:25:16.799 --> 02:25:23.200
Everything looks exactly the way you remember it, except your bed is covered in baloney.
02:25:25.440 --> 02:25:31.040
You slowly pull back the blankets, and underneath them is horse heads.
02:25:32.239 --> 02:25:33.520
You scream.
02:25:34.319 --> 02:25:41.840
Freddy explodes through the bedroom wall, riding a giant sea turtle, wearing nothing but underwear and a s.
02:25:44.399 --> 02:25:49.040
He points at you and says, Welcome to my nightmare, bitch.
02:25:49.280 --> 02:25:50.079
Bitch.
02:25:50.319 --> 02:25:53.440
Then the walls begin pouring snot.
02:25:55.440 --> 02:25:58.879
You grab the nearest thing you can find to defend yourself.
02:25:59.600 --> 02:26:01.840
Fortunately, it's a boob.
02:26:03.600 --> 02:26:09.040
Freddy laughs, but suddenly Indiana Jones crashes through the ceiling.
02:26:09.280 --> 02:26:11.760
Finally, someone has come to save you.
02:26:11.920 --> 02:26:16.879
They look Freddy directly in the eyes, scream, and the fire start.
02:26:18.639 --> 02:26:20.319
And immediately died.
02:26:20.639 --> 02:26:20.959
Oh.
02:26:22.079 --> 02:26:25.440
Fredd looks down at the body, then back at you.
02:26:25.680 --> 02:26:26.799
He smiles.
02:26:27.280 --> 02:26:29.360
What a fucking smelly.
02:26:32.079 --> 02:26:34.799
You jump as fast as you can.
02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:37.040
Suddenly, you're back on Elm Street.
02:26:37.200 --> 02:26:38.799
Your house is right in front of you.
02:26:38.959 --> 02:26:40.399
You're almost safe.
02:26:40.559 --> 02:26:45.280
But standing between you and the front door are 13 enormous forks.
02:26:46.159 --> 02:26:47.200
Behind you.
02:26:50.159 --> 02:26:50.959
Freddy.
02:26:51.600 --> 02:26:52.319
No, that was me.
02:26:52.479 --> 02:26:53.360
Freddie Burning.
02:26:54.799 --> 02:26:56.959
You have nowhere left to run.
02:26:57.200 --> 02:27:01.120
His arms stretch across the entire street.
02:27:01.360 --> 02:27:04.000
His razor glove rises into the air.
02:27:04.159 --> 02:27:05.120
Pizza Cutter.
02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:07.440
This is it.
02:27:08.079 --> 02:27:10.319
Freddie Krueger is about to kill you.
02:27:10.479 --> 02:27:12.479
He's close to your ear.
02:27:12.639 --> 02:27:13.760
He whispers.
02:27:14.159 --> 02:27:14.799
Fuck.
02:27:20.399 --> 02:27:22.000
The glove comes down.
02:27:22.159 --> 02:27:23.520
You wake up screaming.
02:27:23.680 --> 02:27:25.440
You're drenched in sweat.
02:27:25.600 --> 02:27:26.399
You're alive.
02:27:26.559 --> 02:27:28.239
It was only a dream.
02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:31.360
You breathe a sigh of relief and look over the clock.
02:27:31.600 --> 02:27:33.280
3:17 a.m.
02:27:33.840 --> 02:27:37.200
Then you notice something lying on the pillow beside you.
02:27:37.440 --> 02:27:40.319
A red and green striped beer.
02:27:40.719 --> 02:27:45.920
And from somewhere underneath the bed, you hear, sweet dreams, bitch.
02:27:47.120 --> 02:27:50.239
One, two, Freddy's coming for you.
02:27:52.399 --> 02:27:55.360
That would have been better than uh the sequel to this movie.
02:27:55.600 --> 02:27:58.639
Did you imagine somebody hitting you with a boob?
02:28:00.799 --> 02:28:02.479
Only in my dreams.
02:28:04.479 --> 02:28:06.319
Smack somebody with a boob.
02:28:10.159 --> 02:28:11.680
Did you just fail?
02:28:12.399 --> 02:28:14.000
Fail our entire choices there.
02:28:14.159 --> 02:28:15.200
Did we fail Mad Libs?
02:28:15.440 --> 02:28:16.000
I think we did.
02:28:16.159 --> 02:28:17.520
Oh, how do you feel Mad Libs?
02:28:17.680 --> 02:28:18.079
Oh no.
02:28:18.799 --> 02:28:20.239
Let me try that again.
02:28:21.040 --> 02:28:23.680
Yay! We did good.
02:28:23.840 --> 02:28:24.879
The Reggies approved.
02:28:25.120 --> 02:28:25.840
They did.
02:28:26.479 --> 02:28:27.440
Alright.
02:28:27.760 --> 02:28:31.360
Now that we've done that, let's pick some poison.
02:28:31.600 --> 02:28:31.920
Okay.
02:28:32.559 --> 02:28:33.600
Movies from the same year.
02:28:33.680 --> 02:28:36.879
Would you rather watch a Nightmare in Elm Street or Ghostbusters?
02:28:38.479 --> 02:28:39.360
Ghostbusters.
02:28:39.600 --> 02:28:40.000
Nightmare.
02:28:40.159 --> 02:28:41.120
Yeah, I was gonna say.
02:28:41.360 --> 02:28:42.559
I think I'm gonna go Nightmare.
02:28:42.799 --> 02:28:44.959
Nightmare in Elm Street or Gremlins.
02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:46.719
Oh, Nightmare.
02:28:47.520 --> 02:28:50.239
Nightmare in Elm Street or the Terminator.
02:28:51.280 --> 02:28:51.760
Terminator.
02:28:52.000 --> 02:28:52.479
Terminator.
02:28:52.639 --> 02:28:53.600
I'll go Terminator.
02:28:53.760 --> 02:28:56.959
A nightmare in Elm Street or the Karate Kid.
02:28:58.159 --> 02:28:59.360
Wax on, wax off.
02:28:59.440 --> 02:29:00.879
I gotta go Karate Kid on this.
02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:01.840
Nightmare.
02:29:02.079 --> 02:29:02.719
I love Mr.
02:29:02.879 --> 02:29:03.360
Miyagi.
02:29:03.840 --> 02:29:07.360
Man, it's been so long since I've seen Karate Kid.
02:29:07.440 --> 02:29:08.559
I'm gonna give that a go again.
02:29:08.639 --> 02:29:08.959
Alright.
02:29:09.280 --> 02:29:12.159
Nightmare on Elm Street or Beverly Hills Cop.
02:29:12.399 --> 02:29:14.000
I love me some Axel Foley.
02:29:14.159 --> 02:29:15.200
Give me Beverly Hills.
02:29:15.360 --> 02:29:17.040
I'm sticking with Nightmare.
02:29:17.840 --> 02:29:19.200
Again, it's been a long time.
02:29:19.280 --> 02:29:20.959
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Beverly Hills.
02:29:21.040 --> 02:29:23.120
Alright, let's talk about some other Wes Craven movies.
02:29:23.200 --> 02:29:27.280
Would you rather watch a Nightmare on Elm Street or The Last House on the Left?
02:29:27.520 --> 02:29:28.799
Nightmare on Elm Street.
02:29:29.040 --> 02:29:30.319
I have never seen The Last House.
02:29:30.719 --> 02:29:32.639
I have not either, so I'm gonna go with that one.
02:29:32.799 --> 02:29:34.000
I've seen the remake of it.
02:29:34.079 --> 02:29:34.319
Yeah.
02:29:34.479 --> 02:29:36.319
Yeah, I've seen the remake, but not the original.
02:29:36.479 --> 02:29:37.600
I'll watch the original.
02:29:37.840 --> 02:29:38.000
Okay.
02:29:38.159 --> 02:29:38.399
Same.
02:29:38.559 --> 02:29:39.120
Let's see how that goes.
02:29:39.280 --> 02:29:41.840
How about Nightmare on Elm Street or The Hills Have Eyes?
02:29:42.000 --> 02:29:43.280
I'm gonna go Hills Have Eyes.
02:29:43.440 --> 02:29:43.600
Same.
02:29:43.760 --> 02:29:43.920
Yep.
02:29:44.479 --> 02:29:48.079
How about Nightmare on Elm Street or the People Under the Stairs?
02:29:50.639 --> 02:29:52.239
The kid named Fool.
02:29:53.600 --> 02:29:55.520
I'm gonna go People Under the Stairs.
02:29:55.600 --> 02:29:56.319
Yeah, I've not seen that.
02:29:56.399 --> 02:29:57.040
I'm gonna go with that one.
02:29:57.280 --> 02:29:57.760
I've not seen it?
02:29:57.840 --> 02:29:59.920
Yeah, I've not I'm gonna go with Nightmare.
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:02.959
Uh Nightmare on Elm Street or Scream.
02:30:03.520 --> 02:30:04.959
Oh, Nightmare on Elm Street.
02:30:05.200 --> 02:30:05.680
Same.
02:30:06.000 --> 02:30:06.799
Fuck screen.
02:30:06.959 --> 02:30:09.360
Ah, but isn't that when he No.
02:30:09.600 --> 02:30:13.040
That's not when he stabs her and pulls out the boob implant.
02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:15.120
No, you're gonna think it was a scary movie.
02:30:15.680 --> 02:30:17.120
Yeah, I'll go Nightmare then.
02:30:17.360 --> 02:30:17.840
Alright.
02:30:18.079 --> 02:30:20.959
Uh movies where you can't trust your own fucking reality.
02:30:21.040 --> 02:30:23.680
Would you rather watch a nightmare on Elm Street or The Matrix?
02:30:23.840 --> 02:30:25.040
Oh, I'm gonna go Matrix.
02:30:25.280 --> 02:30:25.680
Same.
02:30:25.840 --> 02:30:26.959
I'm gonna go Nightmare.
02:30:27.040 --> 02:30:27.280
Yeah?
02:30:27.440 --> 02:30:29.120
Yeah, I think Matrix is overrated.
02:30:29.280 --> 02:30:29.520
Alright.
02:30:29.680 --> 02:30:30.000
Like it.
02:30:30.159 --> 02:30:32.559
A Nightmare in Elm Street or Inception.
02:30:32.879 --> 02:30:35.120
Ooh, Inception was trippy.
02:30:35.280 --> 02:30:35.680
Nightmare.
02:30:35.840 --> 02:30:37.120
I'm gonna go Inception.
02:30:39.440 --> 02:30:40.000
Justin?
02:30:40.239 --> 02:30:41.120
I like the Trippy.
02:30:41.280 --> 02:30:41.600
Okay.
02:30:42.159 --> 02:30:43.760
Sorry to make that clear.
02:30:44.000 --> 02:30:46.639
A Nightmare on Elm Street or Donnie Darko.
02:30:46.799 --> 02:30:47.520
Donnie Darko.
02:30:47.680 --> 02:30:48.959
Nightmare in Elm Street.
02:30:49.200 --> 02:30:50.239
You've not even seen it.
02:30:50.399 --> 02:30:50.639
Yeah.
02:30:50.799 --> 02:30:51.440
And I don't want to.
02:30:52.639 --> 02:30:53.600
I'll go Donnie.
02:30:53.680 --> 02:30:54.000
You will.
02:30:54.639 --> 02:30:57.600
Nightmare on Elm Street or The Truman Show.
02:30:57.920 --> 02:30:59.440
Hmm I'm gonna go Nightmare.
02:30:59.680 --> 02:31:00.000
Nightmare.
02:31:00.159 --> 02:31:01.360
I'm gonna go Truman Show.
02:31:01.520 --> 02:31:01.760
Okay.
02:31:01.920 --> 02:31:02.719
I like that.
02:31:02.959 --> 02:31:05.120
And how about some other slasher films?
02:31:05.280 --> 02:31:07.280
Nightmare in Elm Street or Halloween.
02:31:08.000 --> 02:31:09.120
I like Nightmare better.
02:31:09.360 --> 02:31:10.239
Nightmare.
02:31:11.360 --> 02:31:12.000
Hmm.
02:31:13.840 --> 02:31:15.920
You're gonna go Halloween because there's more boobs.
02:31:16.159 --> 02:31:17.200
There was way more boobs.
02:31:17.440 --> 02:31:17.840
Way right.
02:31:18.079 --> 02:31:18.799
Way more boobs.
02:31:18.959 --> 02:31:21.040
But I'm gonna Yeah, I'll stick with Nightmare.
02:31:21.200 --> 02:31:21.360
Okay.
02:31:21.520 --> 02:31:23.760
Nightmare in Elm Street or Friday the 13th.
02:31:23.920 --> 02:31:25.440
I'm gonna go Friday the 13th.
02:31:26.959 --> 02:31:28.000
The first one we're talking about.
02:31:28.399 --> 02:31:28.879
The first one.
02:31:30.319 --> 02:31:31.120
I've not seen it.
02:31:31.440 --> 02:31:31.600
Okay.
02:31:32.000 --> 02:31:33.200
So I'll go Friday the 13th.
02:31:33.360 --> 02:31:46.879
If it was the second one, if it was 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, or 8, I would go Friday the 13th.
02:31:46.959 --> 02:31:49.360
But given them with the first one, I'm gonna go with Nightmare.
02:31:49.600 --> 02:31:49.920
Okay.
02:31:50.159 --> 02:31:52.959
What if it was the like 42nd?
02:31:54.239 --> 02:31:56.639
Don't don't tempt don't tease me, Brian.
02:31:56.799 --> 02:31:58.319
There doesn't go that high.
02:31:58.639 --> 02:31:58.799
Okay.
02:31:59.040 --> 02:31:59.360
Yet.
02:31:59.760 --> 02:32:03.200
Uh Nightmare on Elm Street or the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
02:32:03.280 --> 02:32:04.079
I'm gonna go Texas.
02:32:04.319 --> 02:32:05.360
Yeah, I gotta go to Texas.
02:32:05.680 --> 02:32:08.000
Uh Nightmare Elm Street or Child Play.
02:32:08.319 --> 02:32:10.479
Nightmare on Elm Street Nightmare.
02:32:10.719 --> 02:32:17.280
And to wrap things up, movies gave us an iconic villain, which rather it's a nightmare on Elm Street or Star Wars.
02:32:18.559 --> 02:32:20.239
I'll go Nightmare.
02:32:21.280 --> 02:32:22.319
I'll go Star Wars.
02:32:22.399 --> 02:32:23.280
Yeah, I know you would.
02:32:23.360 --> 02:32:23.520
Yeah.
02:32:23.680 --> 02:32:24.719
I'm gonna go Nightmare.
02:32:24.879 --> 02:32:25.040
Yeah.
02:32:25.200 --> 02:32:25.360
Yeah.
02:32:25.600 --> 02:32:28.159
Nightmare on Elm Street or Silence of the Lambs.
02:32:28.399 --> 02:32:28.879
Ooh.
02:32:30.000 --> 02:32:32.239
I like Silence of the Lambs, so I'm gonna go that one.
02:32:32.399 --> 02:32:33.120
I thought that was pretty good.
02:32:33.280 --> 02:32:34.159
That is a really good one.
02:32:34.239 --> 02:32:34.799
That's too serious.
02:32:34.879 --> 02:32:36.079
I'm gonna go Nightmare.
02:32:37.440 --> 02:32:39.520
Nightmare on Elm Street or Die Hard.
02:32:40.000 --> 02:32:41.840
Oh, Die Hard all the way.
02:32:42.079 --> 02:32:43.600
I'm gonna stick with Nightmare.
02:32:43.760 --> 02:32:44.639
I'm going Nightmare.
02:32:45.120 --> 02:32:46.399
She's Ding Fenster.
02:32:47.200 --> 02:32:51.840
Alright, and last one: a Nightmare on Elm Street or the Dark Knight.
02:32:52.479 --> 02:32:53.680
Nightmare on Elm Street.
02:32:53.920 --> 02:32:55.360
Wait, are you talking the first one?
02:32:55.520 --> 02:32:58.079
Yeah, the one with the with uh Heath Legger's Joker.
02:32:58.239 --> 02:32:59.360
Oh, I'll go that one then.
02:32:59.520 --> 02:33:00.879
Oh, I'll go nightmare.
02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:02.000
Alright.
02:33:02.239 --> 02:33:04.079
Well, we've picked our poison.
02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:09.520
So now we gotta pick our bodiker.
02:33:09.920 --> 02:33:10.479
Bonticker.
02:33:12.719 --> 02:33:14.319
You are under arrest.
02:33:14.479 --> 02:33:16.639
You have the right to remain silent.
02:33:17.600 --> 02:33:18.319
Fuck you.
02:33:18.479 --> 02:33:18.879
Fuck you.
02:33:19.200 --> 02:33:20.399
Guns, guns, guns.
02:33:20.479 --> 02:33:21.920
It's time to choose.
02:33:22.159 --> 02:33:24.959
Who stole the seed and lift the fuse?
02:33:25.360 --> 02:33:31.680
Fat fold or just to raise the bodiker or brings the bag.
02:33:44.799 --> 02:33:56.559
Well, if you're new to the show, every episode we pick one recipient of this prestigious award, which we've named in honor of our favorite cinematic character, Clarence Boddicker from Robocop.
02:33:56.719 --> 02:34:01.520
It's not an award for who is on the screen the most or who's the Biggest name in the film.
02:34:01.600 --> 02:34:05.520
It's an award for the character we think brought the most to the movie.
02:34:07.120 --> 02:34:08.159
Justin, yeah.
02:34:08.319 --> 02:34:11.520
Who was your pick for this episode's Bodiker Award?
02:34:13.120 --> 02:34:14.079
Alright.
02:34:16.079 --> 02:34:17.920
So there wasn't much to go on here.
02:34:18.079 --> 02:34:19.200
No, there wasn't.
02:34:20.959 --> 02:34:24.559
So I nominate Nancy Thompson.
02:34:24.879 --> 02:34:25.520
Ooh.
02:34:26.879 --> 02:34:31.600
Uh so she she actually figures out what's happening and does something about it.
02:34:32.239 --> 02:34:40.159
She goes from being a frightened teenager to investigating Freddy's history, testing the dream rules, setting a trap, and confronting the killer herself.
02:34:40.719 --> 02:34:45.280
She's not just waiting around for police or her boyfriend to save her.
02:34:46.079 --> 02:34:47.280
Because he fell asleep.
02:34:47.840 --> 02:34:48.559
Exactly.
02:34:48.959 --> 02:34:49.280
Glenn.
02:34:49.520 --> 02:34:50.399
He's useless.
02:34:50.799 --> 02:34:51.760
Fucking Glenn.
02:34:52.719 --> 02:34:53.280
Alright.
02:34:53.760 --> 02:34:54.639
So I'll go next.
02:34:54.719 --> 02:34:55.040
Mm-hmm.
02:34:56.399 --> 02:35:00.879
I think the obvious choice is the iconic villain of Freddy Krueger.
02:35:01.680 --> 02:35:02.639
But that's not who I chose.
02:35:02.959 --> 02:35:03.280
Okay?
02:35:04.399 --> 02:35:06.399
For me, Nancy's what holds everything together.
02:35:07.600 --> 02:35:09.760
She's not simply waiting around to be rescued.
02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:10.799
She learns the rules.
02:35:10.879 --> 02:35:12.879
She figures out what she's dealing with.
02:35:13.120 --> 02:35:14.959
And she decides she's gonna fight back.
02:35:15.280 --> 02:35:15.680
Hell yeah.
02:35:16.000 --> 02:35:17.520
I think she had an arc.
02:35:18.239 --> 02:35:18.559
Um.
02:35:20.399 --> 02:35:25.520
And I would have gone Freddie if he was scarier.
02:35:25.920 --> 02:35:26.159
Okay.
02:35:26.399 --> 02:35:26.879
But it wasn't.
02:35:26.959 --> 02:35:28.159
So I'm gonna go Nancy on this.
02:35:28.639 --> 02:35:29.520
Seth, what say you?
02:35:29.760 --> 02:35:30.639
You guys suck.
02:35:31.520 --> 02:35:34.559
Freddy is what makes a nightmare on Elm Street different.
02:35:34.719 --> 02:35:36.479
Michael Myers can chase you.
02:35:36.719 --> 02:35:38.159
Jason can chase you.
02:35:38.319 --> 02:35:41.200
Leatherfet Leatherface can chase you.
02:35:41.760 --> 02:35:43.440
Freddy doesn't have to.
02:35:44.159 --> 02:35:53.600
Beyond that, Robert England gives him more personality in a few minutes of screen time than almost anyone else in the movie because everyone else in this movie, quite frankly, sucks.
02:35:53.840 --> 02:36:00.159
He's creepy, he's playful, he's sadistic, and clearly having a fucking blast tormenting these kids.
02:36:00.559 --> 02:36:10.719
Even before the sequels turned him into a full-blown wisecracking horror celebrity, you can already see that personality, that twisted sense of humor starting to emerge.
02:36:10.959 --> 02:36:17.520
He's the concept, he's the imagery, he's the personality, he's the reason we're still talking about this movie 40 years later.
02:36:17.760 --> 02:36:26.000
Um now, Freddy is an absolutely horrible human being, but I think he's honestly the best character in the movie.
02:36:26.239 --> 02:36:27.680
And he's a pedophile.
02:36:27.920 --> 02:36:29.120
They don't say that in this movie.
02:36:29.200 --> 02:36:30.719
He's just a mass murder of children.
02:36:30.959 --> 02:36:32.000
But you know what?
02:36:32.399 --> 02:36:35.440
Freddy is not the Bodtiker Award winner.
02:36:35.600 --> 02:36:36.000
That's true.
02:36:36.159 --> 02:36:36.239
No.
02:36:36.559 --> 02:36:38.079
That is true, you're outloaded.
02:36:38.239 --> 02:36:39.040
Yeah, I know.
02:36:39.360 --> 02:36:43.280
Nancy is the winner of this episode's Bodaker Award.
02:36:44.479 --> 02:36:47.360
You know, and I think a reason we kind of overlook.
02:36:48.479 --> 02:36:48.879
Yeah.
02:36:49.120 --> 02:36:53.360
I think one of the reasons we overlook is, you know, Freddy's boob is filled with maggots.
02:36:55.120 --> 02:37:00.719
And Nancy's is just uh just a boob for a 20-year-old.
02:37:01.440 --> 02:37:03.280
Barely glorious.
02:37:06.479 --> 02:37:07.760
But I digress.
02:37:08.479 --> 02:37:08.799
Okay.
02:37:09.360 --> 02:37:14.799
Well, now that we've picked our winner of the Bottiker Award, let's pick our best beer of the night.
02:37:15.040 --> 02:37:16.799
Uh, this is gonna be the hardest part.
02:37:16.959 --> 02:37:17.600
Yeah.
02:37:18.479 --> 02:37:19.280
Alright.
02:37:19.600 --> 02:37:21.280
Any strong feelings?
02:37:22.399 --> 02:37:24.000
I wouldn't buy any three of them.
02:37:24.319 --> 02:37:24.639
No.
02:37:25.120 --> 02:37:26.079
You know what?
02:37:26.239 --> 02:37:27.200
I'll go first.
02:37:27.440 --> 02:37:27.760
Okay.
02:37:28.799 --> 02:37:32.879
My third place beer is the Cali Squeeze, the blood orange.
02:37:33.120 --> 02:37:33.600
Agreed.
02:37:33.680 --> 02:37:42.159
It was too effervescent, not beery enough, and yeah, in a can, it was hard even trying to tell what it was.
02:37:42.479 --> 02:37:43.120
Yeah.
02:37:44.079 --> 02:37:45.200
In second place.
02:37:45.520 --> 02:37:46.479
Brian doesn't win.
02:37:46.639 --> 02:37:46.879
No.
02:37:47.520 --> 02:37:47.840
Nah.
02:37:48.239 --> 02:37:49.280
What's new?
02:37:49.600 --> 02:37:52.559
Um the course.
02:37:52.719 --> 02:37:57.200
In second place, I'm gonna put the pumpkin beer.
02:37:57.360 --> 02:37:57.680
Okay.
02:37:58.239 --> 02:38:02.639
Um, it was very more vanilla than pumpkin.
02:38:02.879 --> 02:38:06.559
It was palatable for a pumpkin beer, and I'm dying, I don't like pumpkin beers.
02:38:06.719 --> 02:38:09.440
I drank the whole thing, and I was not off put.
02:38:10.479 --> 02:38:13.040
But yeah, um, your daughter had it right.
02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:15.600
It tasted like how Hobby Lobby smells.
02:38:15.680 --> 02:38:15.840
Yeah.
02:38:16.159 --> 02:38:17.680
It was very potpour-e.
02:38:17.920 --> 02:38:21.440
I'm gonna go next so I don't feel like I'm being left in the dark, because I know I'm gonna be.
02:38:21.760 --> 02:38:24.479
And my winner is the Oktoberfest.
02:38:24.559 --> 02:38:29.600
It's not a true Oktoberfest, but it was probably the best of the worst.
02:38:29.920 --> 02:38:33.360
I am going to agree with the blood orange.
02:38:33.520 --> 02:38:33.840
Yeah.
02:38:34.159 --> 02:38:34.879
Dead last.
02:38:35.200 --> 02:38:36.959
I'm gonna flip your choices though.
02:38:37.120 --> 02:38:39.920
I think the Oktoberfest is second place.
02:38:40.079 --> 02:38:40.399
Yeah.
02:38:40.559 --> 02:38:45.120
It was a drinkable beer, but the cleaners in Oktoberfest is a misnomer.
02:38:45.280 --> 02:38:45.680
Agree.
02:38:46.000 --> 02:38:48.559
Um, it was fine, but I didn't love it.
02:38:48.719 --> 02:38:56.879
The pumpkin beer, which I'm not normally a big fan of, it was a bit of a hobby lobby palette at the start.
02:38:57.200 --> 02:39:04.319
But the more I got into it, I actually found it was just a tasty vanilla ale with some hints of pumpkin.
02:39:04.479 --> 02:39:05.760
It was a poopery beer.
02:39:05.840 --> 02:39:06.799
And I poopery.
02:39:07.040 --> 02:39:17.440
I once I got past that initial assault, I found it to actually be a very enjoyable beer.
02:39:17.600 --> 02:39:20.879
And by the time I was done with that pint, I was I I was liking it.
02:39:20.959 --> 02:39:25.600
I don't know that I would buy it again, but I liked it more than I liked the Oktoberfest.
02:39:25.840 --> 02:39:26.159
Okay.
02:39:26.879 --> 02:39:27.280
All right.
02:39:27.440 --> 02:39:28.959
Now, Justin, tell me while I'm wrong.
02:39:29.120 --> 02:39:31.120
Justin, it comes down to you.
02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:33.760
So I will tell you why you're wrong.
02:39:34.000 --> 02:39:37.040
Uh, all pumpkin beers are bullshit.
02:39:37.920 --> 02:39:43.840
Whoever in our next in our series of Halloween movies picks a pumpkin beer is not gonna win.
02:39:44.079 --> 02:39:46.159
It just never happens that way.
02:39:46.639 --> 02:39:50.959
Uh I'm I'm right there with Brian.
02:39:51.120 --> 02:39:56.000
You know, the the Cali squeeze was not a beer.
02:39:58.000 --> 02:40:00.079
The pumpkin was a pumpkin.
02:40:00.799 --> 02:40:07.200
The Oktoberfest, while it sucks, is an Oktoberfest, and I wouldn't buy any three of these again.
02:40:07.440 --> 02:40:11.760
It's the one that I would drink without making a face.
02:40:12.159 --> 02:40:14.719
So that's the one I'm gonna go with.
02:40:15.520 --> 02:40:17.280
We missed the mark times three tonight.
02:40:17.680 --> 02:40:18.239
We sure did.
02:40:18.319 --> 02:40:20.399
Yeah, this was a rough outing here.
02:40:21.040 --> 02:40:24.000
You know, some nights we have three great three good winners.
02:40:24.239 --> 02:40:24.639
We do.
02:40:25.280 --> 02:40:26.479
This just wasn't it.
02:40:26.639 --> 02:40:29.360
This this tonight was like voting for a politician.
02:40:29.600 --> 02:40:30.159
You know?
02:40:30.399 --> 02:40:33.120
You're just trying to not vote for the worst.
02:40:33.440 --> 02:40:35.120
You gotta pick the best of the worst.
02:40:35.280 --> 02:40:35.840
Right.
02:40:36.239 --> 02:40:38.000
And even then you sometimes get it wrong.
02:40:38.399 --> 02:40:38.879
Absolutely.
02:40:40.719 --> 02:40:41.040
Okay.
02:40:42.479 --> 02:40:44.559
Well, let's move on to some final thoughts.
02:40:44.719 --> 02:40:45.040
Okay.
02:40:45.200 --> 02:40:46.399
Who wants to go first?
02:40:46.959 --> 02:40:47.920
Mine's short.
02:40:48.239 --> 02:40:49.360
Mine's kind of long.
02:40:49.760 --> 02:40:51.440
I'll go, I'll go first because I'm a shorty.
02:40:51.760 --> 02:40:52.719
Go shorty.
02:40:53.120 --> 02:40:55.600
You know, this was a pretty fun watch for me.
02:40:55.840 --> 02:40:56.239
Yeah.
02:40:56.559 --> 02:40:59.520
I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
02:41:00.639 --> 02:41:06.399
You know, 40 plus years later, Nightmare Elm Street still works because it attacks something we can't simply avoid.
02:41:06.799 --> 02:41:13.280
You can't lock your doors, you can't check under the bed, you can't stay with your friends, they can't protect you.
02:41:14.000 --> 02:41:16.319
Eventually you have to go to sleep.
02:41:16.879 --> 02:41:19.760
And that's what makes Freddy such a damn good horror villain.
02:41:20.559 --> 02:41:22.319
You know what gets you when you're most vulnerable.
02:41:22.559 --> 02:41:22.879
Right.
02:41:26.879 --> 02:41:28.479
It was a little campy.
02:41:30.000 --> 02:41:31.120
The ending sucked.
02:41:31.360 --> 02:41:40.799
If if I had to do it over again like we talked about with the magic wand, I think Freddy could have been a true super scary villain.
02:41:40.959 --> 02:41:42.479
But they didn't go in that direction.
02:41:42.639 --> 02:41:44.559
And I think it would have been better if they would have.
02:41:45.440 --> 02:41:47.360
So as far as my beer rating.
02:41:48.719 --> 02:41:50.079
This movie is a fun watch.
02:41:50.239 --> 02:41:51.840
I don't regret watching it again.
02:41:52.000 --> 02:41:58.479
I think if you get away from like the 80s, this movie kinda holds up.
02:41:58.559 --> 02:42:01.200
The idea in this movie definitely holds up.
02:42:02.239 --> 02:42:05.680
Uh but I think this movie would be an absolute riot.
02:42:06.719 --> 02:42:08.159
If I was six beers in.
02:42:08.479 --> 02:42:08.799
Okay.
02:42:09.360 --> 02:42:09.840
Alright.
02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:10.879
Six beers.
02:42:11.040 --> 02:42:11.760
Six beers.
02:42:12.000 --> 02:42:13.440
Justin, what say you?
02:42:13.840 --> 02:42:14.479
Alright.
02:42:14.639 --> 02:42:18.959
So a nightmare on Elm Street was a surprisingly good rewatch.
02:42:19.760 --> 02:42:24.319
Even watching it through a critical eye, I didn't find too much to complain about.
02:42:24.799 --> 02:42:31.280
The effects, while sometimes a little comical and likely intentionally campy, were really well done.
02:42:31.680 --> 02:42:42.479
The blood, guts, and gore were awesome, and they packed a ton of great effects into this movie without making them feel forced or like they were just throwing them in just because they could.
02:42:43.600 --> 02:42:46.159
The death scenes in particular were amazing.
02:42:46.479 --> 02:42:51.040
They were creative, they were well done, and there really wasn't a whole lot of cheese to them.
02:42:51.840 --> 02:42:57.760
The set design, camera work, and lighting were also great and really captured the spirit and atmosphere of the film.
02:42:58.000 --> 02:42:58.319
You know what?
02:42:58.399 --> 02:42:59.120
You're right there.
02:42:59.280 --> 02:43:02.319
There were some really good shots, really good camera work.
02:43:02.559 --> 02:43:02.719
Yeah.
02:43:02.959 --> 02:43:04.639
Like street level, looking up.
02:43:05.040 --> 02:43:06.479
Yeah, there was some great camera shots.
02:43:06.879 --> 02:43:07.760
Great shots in there.
02:43:09.040 --> 02:43:14.159
So even the acting wasn't completely terrible.
02:43:14.879 --> 02:43:20.879
A couple of people were a little flat, and there was definitely moments where I could tell someone was really trying to act.
02:43:21.120 --> 02:43:23.840
But overall, the performances were pretty convincing.
02:43:24.479 --> 02:43:29.760
If I had to pick one major thing to complain about, it would probably be the background music.
02:43:30.079 --> 02:43:40.959
It was super 80s, and even during the scenes that were supposed to be scary, tense, or suspenseful, the synth heavy music sometimes felt like it belonged in a completely different movie.
02:43:41.440 --> 02:43:44.000
Overall, though, I really enjoyed my rewatch.
02:43:44.399 --> 02:43:50.559
I watched it Stone Cold Sober, and I was genuinely drawn into the movie from beginning to end.
02:43:51.040 --> 02:44:04.159
I don't know that I would necessarily seek it out for another rewatch, but it is Halloween season, so there's a pretty good chance it'll pop up on some random channel, and I'll stop to watch it.
02:44:04.719 --> 02:44:09.040
And if I've got three beers in the fridge, even better.
02:44:09.360 --> 02:44:09.920
Alright.
02:44:10.239 --> 02:44:11.280
Three beers.
02:44:11.520 --> 02:44:12.639
Three beer movie.
02:44:12.959 --> 02:44:14.079
Three beer horror movie.
02:44:14.319 --> 02:44:15.920
Alright, Seth, what say you, buddy?
02:44:16.239 --> 02:44:16.799
Well.
02:44:17.840 --> 02:44:21.760
Is the writing particularly good on a nightmare in Elm Street?
02:44:22.319 --> 02:44:22.639
No.
02:44:24.319 --> 02:44:26.159
Is the acting excellent?
02:44:26.799 --> 02:44:27.840
Not even close.
02:44:28.559 --> 02:44:29.760
Does it matter?
02:44:30.079 --> 02:44:31.920
Not a damn bit.
02:44:32.639 --> 02:44:37.360
A nightmare in Elm Street brought something different to the slasher genre.
02:44:37.600 --> 02:44:45.520
The body count was not huge, but the practical effects surrounding those departures were through the ceiling.
02:44:45.760 --> 02:44:52.879
All over the ceiling, and eventually dripping back onto the floor, possibly electrocuting a few key grips along the way.
02:44:54.479 --> 02:45:07.440
There is an artistry here that rivals much bigger budget movies combined with a scrappy just get it done attitude that makes what they accomplished even more impressive.
02:45:07.600 --> 02:45:13.840
They cut corners, and it's clearly held together by little more than baling wire and duct tape.
02:45:14.159 --> 02:45:24.959
But they still delivered an original premise, an iconic villain, and a movie that hooks me from the get-go and keeps me wanting more for the entire hour and a half.
02:45:26.239 --> 02:45:29.520
I love 80 slashers.
02:45:30.399 --> 02:45:36.239
But I honestly love most of them because they are so bad that they're fun.
02:45:37.680 --> 02:45:41.520
A nightmare on Elm Street to me, though, is the exception.
02:45:41.760 --> 02:45:52.000
It is fun because despite its many very obvious shortcomings, it's still really, really good.
02:45:53.120 --> 02:45:57.440
I've watched this movie twice this week in preparation for the podcast.
02:45:57.920 --> 02:46:02.399
And I'm probably gonna watch it two more times before the the spooky season is over.
02:46:02.959 --> 02:46:07.120
Uh but I'm gonna enjoy it most with three beers.
02:46:07.520 --> 02:46:08.000
Alright.
02:46:08.479 --> 02:46:09.200
Three beers.
02:46:09.520 --> 02:46:10.799
Three beers.
02:46:11.440 --> 02:46:16.799
Which gives it its average score of four beers.
02:46:17.120 --> 02:46:18.079
Four beers.
02:46:18.799 --> 02:46:28.559
And which looks like it puts it in 11th place tied with Uncle Buck! Uncle Buck.
02:46:29.680 --> 02:46:30.559
That's a good spot for this.
02:46:30.879 --> 02:46:31.360
No doubt.
02:46:31.600 --> 02:46:31.920
Yeah.
02:46:32.319 --> 02:46:45.920
Which would be a third of a beer behind, uh, Fire in the Sky, Twins and the Burbs, and a third a beer ahead of Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
02:46:47.040 --> 02:46:47.600
I like it.
02:46:47.760 --> 02:46:50.000
Yeah, that's a pretty I think that's an appropriate spot for it.
02:46:50.239 --> 02:46:50.879
I like it a lot.
02:46:50.959 --> 02:46:51.600
Yeah.
02:46:52.239 --> 02:46:55.200
So now I gotta ask guys.
02:46:56.399 --> 02:47:07.040
If Wes Craven gave us a call tomorrow and said, hey, regular guys, I wanna make a sequel to A Nightmare on Elm Street.
02:47:07.360 --> 02:47:11.360
And let's forget that any sequels ever have been made of this movie.
02:47:11.440 --> 02:47:15.360
And we're starting from scratch with a brand new sequel.
02:47:15.520 --> 02:47:15.920
Mm-hmm.
02:47:17.040 --> 02:47:18.479
What would we tell him?
02:47:19.760 --> 02:47:22.479
Justin, you had the best beer of the night.
02:47:22.959 --> 02:47:24.239
Best of the worst.
02:47:25.520 --> 02:47:28.319
I'm telling you, this happens to me all the fucking time.
02:47:28.559 --> 02:47:29.840
Where should we start?
02:47:30.159 --> 02:47:32.239
Alright, so I'm just gonna say Wes Craven.
02:47:32.399 --> 02:47:32.719
Yeah.
02:47:33.120 --> 02:47:34.079
He's alive, right?
02:47:34.239 --> 02:47:34.479
Yes.
02:47:34.719 --> 02:47:34.959
Okay.
02:47:35.120 --> 02:47:36.879
I'm gonna say, hey Wes Craven.
02:47:37.520 --> 02:47:39.520
You pick whatever chaos you want.
02:47:39.680 --> 02:47:40.399
Uh-huh.
02:47:41.520 --> 02:47:45.760
I just want it to end with Freddy waking up in his bed.
02:47:46.159 --> 02:47:47.360
He's not burned.
02:47:47.520 --> 02:47:48.879
He's not a dream demon.
02:47:49.040 --> 02:47:50.319
There's no razor glove.
02:47:50.399 --> 02:47:51.840
It was all just his dream.
02:47:52.000 --> 02:47:52.959
None of it happened.
02:47:53.120 --> 02:48:02.399
What a twist! Where do where do the zombies come in?
02:48:02.799 --> 02:48:06.079
Because we always kind of revert back to zombies.
02:48:06.399 --> 02:48:07.360
Or porn.
02:48:07.600 --> 02:48:08.319
We're porn.
02:48:08.479 --> 02:48:10.159
Where does the porn and zombies come in?
02:48:10.239 --> 02:48:12.319
Well, isn't Freddy technically kind of a zombie?
02:48:12.399 --> 02:48:13.120
Because he's already been dead.
02:48:13.280 --> 02:48:14.399
No, he's a dream demon.
02:48:14.639 --> 02:48:15.360
Dream demon?
02:48:15.760 --> 02:48:17.040
Dream Demon can't be a zombie?
02:48:17.280 --> 02:48:17.600
I don't know.
02:48:17.680 --> 02:48:19.360
Maybe you can't blend those together.
02:48:19.600 --> 02:48:20.719
They might be one and the same.
02:48:20.959 --> 02:48:21.680
Maybe.
02:48:22.079 --> 02:48:25.520
Dream Demon that also does porn.
02:48:29.440 --> 02:48:33.760
Maybe when he maybe he's got like dildos instead of razor knives.
02:48:34.239 --> 02:48:35.920
Razor fingers is dildo fingers?
02:48:36.079 --> 02:48:37.520
Like hot dog fingers.
02:48:38.719 --> 02:48:40.959
I think hot dog fingers has been done.
02:48:41.200 --> 02:48:42.959
I'm your boyfriend now.
02:48:45.120 --> 02:48:46.479
Oh my god, yes, you are.
02:48:46.959 --> 02:48:47.280
Hell yeah.
02:48:47.680 --> 02:48:48.319
Holy cow.
02:48:48.559 --> 02:48:49.600
Get over here, Freddie.
02:48:49.760 --> 02:48:51.440
You got the magic fingers.
02:48:55.040 --> 02:48:57.440
Oh no, Freddie Born.
02:49:00.239 --> 02:49:01.840
I always take this seriously.
02:49:02.079 --> 02:49:02.399
Do you?
02:49:02.559 --> 02:49:02.799
I do.
02:49:03.280 --> 02:49:04.159
No, since when.
02:49:05.840 --> 02:49:08.000
You guys always make it revert into a horror movie.
02:49:08.319 --> 02:49:08.879
Since today.
02:49:09.120 --> 02:49:11.440
Why do you take a horror movie and revert it to a horror movie?
02:49:11.760 --> 02:49:13.280
This is already a horror movie.
02:49:13.600 --> 02:49:15.760
So now Oh, turn it into a rom com.
02:49:17.840 --> 02:49:18.239
Freddie.
02:49:19.120 --> 02:49:19.520
Alright, let's go.
02:49:19.920 --> 02:49:20.959
Freddie's in love with 20 kids.
02:49:21.280 --> 02:49:21.600
I like this.
02:49:21.680 --> 02:49:22.239
I like this.
02:49:22.399 --> 02:49:23.440
He is a pedophile.
02:49:23.600 --> 02:49:23.680
What?
02:49:24.319 --> 02:49:30.959
Is there a character from another movie we could pair Freddy with in a meat cute?
02:49:31.360 --> 02:49:32.399
Julia Roberts.
02:49:32.479 --> 02:49:32.719
Yeah.
02:49:32.879 --> 02:49:34.639
Because she's the Juliest Roberts of all.
02:49:34.799 --> 02:49:35.680
See, it's true.
02:49:36.000 --> 02:49:37.760
So so Julia.
02:49:37.840 --> 02:49:42.319
Okay, so she's in Los Angeles for Pretty Woman.
02:49:43.120 --> 02:49:47.600
And even though this is said they say that's Ohio, they're hanging out in Venice.
02:49:47.760 --> 02:49:47.920
Right.
02:49:48.079 --> 02:49:49.040
So they're there.
02:49:49.280 --> 02:49:49.520
Yeah.
02:49:49.600 --> 02:49:54.479
So Freddie comes up to Rodeo Drive, meets Vivian.
02:49:54.879 --> 02:49:59.760
You got something here because at the end of Pretty Woman, she wanted the fairy tale.
02:50:00.799 --> 02:50:02.239
And the fairy tale's a dream.
02:50:02.399 --> 02:50:02.799
That's right.
02:50:02.959 --> 02:50:03.840
That's true.
02:50:04.159 --> 02:50:05.840
Enter Freddy Krueger.
02:50:06.319 --> 02:50:07.360
He's gonna make it happen.
02:50:07.520 --> 02:50:08.079
There's the hook.
02:50:08.239 --> 02:50:09.120
He's gonna make the dream come.
02:50:09.520 --> 02:50:14.479
Now we get a montage of Vivian taking Freddy on Rodeo Drive.
02:50:14.639 --> 02:50:16.879
Oh my god, he's the one that has to go shopping.
02:50:16.959 --> 02:50:21.840
Yeah, and everybody's like shunning him because he's burned in Marcos.
02:50:22.399 --> 02:50:23.040
Yeah.
02:50:23.680 --> 02:50:25.120
Big, big mistake.
02:50:25.760 --> 02:50:26.319
Huge.
02:50:27.920 --> 02:50:29.520
Do you work on commission?
02:50:30.079 --> 02:50:30.719
Right?
02:50:31.040 --> 02:50:31.360
Yeah.
02:50:31.680 --> 02:50:32.639
Big mistake.
02:50:32.879 --> 02:50:33.760
He's at a ditch.
02:50:34.000 --> 02:50:36.319
He's at a target trying on fedoras.
02:50:39.360 --> 02:50:40.959
Does Target have fedoras?
02:50:41.200 --> 02:50:41.680
I don't know.
02:50:43.600 --> 02:50:44.959
Maybe he's at the Fedora house.
02:50:45.120 --> 02:50:46.000
The fedora house.
02:50:46.079 --> 02:50:46.239
Yeah.
02:50:46.399 --> 02:50:47.520
The house of fedoras.
02:50:47.680 --> 02:50:47.920
Yes.
02:50:48.399 --> 02:50:50.159
Yeah, it's gotta be on Rodeo Drive, right?
02:50:50.239 --> 02:50:50.319
Yeah.
02:50:50.479 --> 02:50:50.959
There's probably.
02:50:51.520 --> 02:50:57.040
There's probably, if there's anywhere that there is a store dedicated to only fedoras, it's probably on Rodeo Drive.
02:50:57.280 --> 02:50:58.239
Not in Miami.
02:50:59.520 --> 02:51:00.559
That makes sense too.
02:51:00.719 --> 02:51:00.959
Yeah.
02:51:01.120 --> 02:51:02.879
Probably more likely Miami.
02:51:03.520 --> 02:51:05.760
Well, I could be wrong.
02:51:05.920 --> 02:51:06.319
Mm-hmm.
02:51:06.559 --> 02:51:11.040
But I think that's gonna do it for this episode of the regular guy movie show.
02:51:11.280 --> 02:51:12.399
I really don't think you're wrong.
02:51:12.639 --> 02:51:14.000
No, I don't think you are either.
02:51:14.559 --> 02:51:27.120
We survive razor gloves, rotating bedrooms, bathtub attacks, exploding mattresses, questionable parenting, and enough caffeine to kill a small horse, or maybe keep me awake for about four hours.
02:51:27.520 --> 02:51:36.879
If you enjoyed hanging out with us, make sure to follow, subscribe, leave a review, or hit us up on the socials and tell us what you thought about a nightmare on Elm Street.
02:51:37.200 --> 02:51:38.479
Does it hold up for you?
02:51:38.639 --> 02:51:41.920
And most importantly, who is your Bodiker winner?
02:51:42.079 --> 02:51:43.040
Thanks for listening.
02:51:43.120 --> 02:51:48.959
Thanks for drinking along with us, and whatever you do, don't fall asleep.
02:51:49.840 --> 02:51:52.959
Until next time, be kind, rewind.
02:52:48.719 --> 02:52:51.680
You know, from from the bathtub scene, you know what I remember the most?
02:52:51.840 --> 02:52:52.239
What?
02:52:52.399 --> 02:52:57.520
When she was lying in the bathtub, she had that little inflatable pillow shell.
02:52:57.600 --> 02:52:58.239
Yeah.
02:52:59.840 --> 02:53:05.920
My mom had one of those when when uh you know in the 80s when I was a kid.
02:53:06.159 --> 02:53:06.799
That's awesome.
02:53:07.360 --> 02:53:17.360
That's that's funny because there was in the movie The Exorcist, yeah, there were these like very specific plates that had a design on them.
02:53:17.840 --> 02:53:26.159
And my mom has that exact same plate, still has them in a China cabinet in her in her dining room, but they are the exact same plates from The Exorcist.
02:53:26.399 --> 02:53:29.600
And like when I found that out as a kid, I was like, that's fucking creepy.
02:53:31.760 --> 02:53:32.159
Right.