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Good morning.
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Good afternoon.
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Good evening.
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I'm Thomas Jenkins.
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This is WFU Z T V's the Pupils Voice podcast.
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I'm here in the studio with Blair Castro.
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Blair.
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How are you?
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I'm doing well.
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Tell me more.
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I don't feel like I'm on NBR right now.
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I was going for the view.
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That's not the view.
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They'd be screeching.
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Oh, it is.
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You can tell I don't watch it.
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So I want to talk a little bit about trials in the news and errors.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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So the Lindsay Clancy trial is going on right now.
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There's quite a few trials going on.
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I'll talk a little bit about other trials in the past that I've witnessed like take place in the media.
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There's trials going on every day.
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You can walk into a courthouse and just watch a trial.
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Did you know that?
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You should try it.
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Sounds boring.
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Except in Baymanette, because they probably won't let you through the door if you have anything like an ink pen or cell phone, you'd leave all that.
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But you can go in there like with nothing but your clothes.
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I did it once.
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I went to a trial and watched somebody who stole a cell phone and I watched the trial.
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Yeah.
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It was an accident.
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I was in the wrong room.
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But I stood because I was like too awkward to leave, and I just watched the whole trial.
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Yeah.
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But, anyways, trials in the news are a little special as opposed to trials that just take place down at the courthouse because there's this huge media blitz around them.
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And that is kind of the reason going back to Lindsay Clancy and other things.
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So, you know, I went to law school in Orlando, and the year of the Casey Anthony trial, I was in Orange County and I was interning there, and I actually lived down the road from Casey Anthony.
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And when the daughter Kaylee went missing, there was a big manhunt, and everybody was there searching for the baby.
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And I remember this all taking place, like all the neighbors, every neighborhood, like doing this, all the blitz around the courthouse, you know, everything that was going on with that was a media circus.
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And I started realizing at this point, I was like in my second year of law school, I was like, the real trial takes place in the media in the public eye.
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There's a trial in the courtroom, and there's a trial of public opinion.
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And the power of the media during these trials is very strong.
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I went back after law school and got my master's in entertainment business because I wanted to do the media side more than the law side because I saw how powerful it was and how much of an impact you can make with the media, especially during a high-profile court case.
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So going into that, by the way, it's really weird, is I get Casey Anthony's CVS medication updates on my cell phone to this day.
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For some reason, my number is attached to her CVS account, and I get her weird, like you're due for your flu vaccine.
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Unless it's another Casey Anthony, but it's really weird considering how close she lived in proximity to my old house.
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It's just strange.
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That's new on me.
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Yeah, and I get them like I got one yesterday.
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It's weird.
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Um, anyways, so the Lindsay Clancy trial, I see people comparing it to the Casey Anthony trial because these are mothers that killed their kids, and it's horrible.
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And win ape shit.
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Yes, and they're claiming postpartum psychosis.
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However, you know, if you pay attention to the trial, Lindsay Clancy was Googling things, um, seemed to have planned this out, sent her husband on errands.
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Like there's so many, there's a lot going on there.
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Now, I'm not going to get into all the details of this trial, but what I will say is that it isn't as black and white.
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There's probably going to be a hung jury on this right now.
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But the more disturbing thing about the trial isn't the fact that this woman did a horrible crime and killed her kids.
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Of course, that is disturbing.
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I mean, that's the most disturbing thing.
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But something else is the public in the way they're reacting to this.
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And all of these women who are coming out like making the TikToks, like saying Lindsay, and like joking about hurting their kids and joking about how they want to kill their kids.
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Like, I'm really disturbed by that.
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So, what do you think is going on with that aspect of this?
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And why are women coming out now and behaving in these kind of like irredeemable ways when it comes to this trial in particular?
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Nobody was really doing that for Casey Anthony.
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They weren't saying, same Casey, like, why are they doing it now to this woman who snapped and like killed her three kids?
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I was told I couldn't make any sexist jokes.
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Well, I want to have an honest discussion.
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I want to know, like, why what do you think about this?
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Well, see, the the thing is, I and not just as a man, but just as a person, I just haven't paid much attention to it.
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Why?
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Because this is gonna go on for a long time, and there's gonna be a lot of information still being sorted out, and I usually just wait to back cleanup at the end on these kinds of things.
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Okay.
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Well, some people would say that what's going on with this trial is showing a type of female behavior that is very toxic, a toxic femininity, if you will, which I think we need to acknowledge that it does exist in these extreme cases.
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I consider myself a feminist who fights for women's rights, but I don't consider myself that kind of like crazy toxic feminist who would advocate for it understanding how someone could murder their children or understanding how people should, you know, like I don't know.
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There's also something interesting about um court cases.
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If you've ever paid attention to that Lorena Bobbitt case from like the 90s, I didn't.
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Oh, she was abused, like she was abused.
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Terrible things were happening to this woman.
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And when she snapped, I you know, after hearing the details of the case, I already made jokes in the media, but she was being treated horrifically, and I can understand why someone snapped in that case.
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Now, granted, that's this woman's kids were not abusing her.
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These were little kids and like a baby and stuff.
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Like, right, why?
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What would possess someone?
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Obviously, like something demonic or something very, very mentally wrong with them.
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So I'm just perplexed as to why public opinion in this case is so supportive of someone who experienced psychotic behavior and committed murder.
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Well, it seems like on the women's side, they are convinced that the man had something to do with it.
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And I don't know if that's actually true based on information given or if that's just radical feminism at work, to be honest.
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I'll probably get raked over the cold for saying that, but that's that's the impression I get.
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From the limited information I have on this, which is probably what the public assumes, I do think that there's more to it with him.
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I don't think he did it.
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I think that he may have contributed to her psychosis and negligently, you know, did not treat her and did not help when he was asked for help and when she was clearly selling signs of stuff.
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However, that doesn't equate to that's negligence, perhaps.
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I don't think that's a crime.
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Um, maybe more information will come out later, but he's not the one on trial, she is.
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He's not the one who did the deed, she did.
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And I think the trial is for her and not for him at this time.
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We need to focus on the person that the trial's going on.
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And by the way, speaking of trials and media blitz um and these toxic people, 30 years ago, my favorite rapper of all time, Tupac Shitor.
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No, Tupac was killed.
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I wrote a paper on this in high school, and here I am 30 years later, and I just want to say that the guy who did it, well, one of the people associated with it, not even the gunman, but somebody who had helped plan this was found guilty.
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And that trial was all over the news.
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If you paid attention to that, there's other people I think this guy snitched on himself in his like biography.
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He was like writing books and bragging about like being a part of this hit, and that's so stupid.
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What a what a dumb person to just brag about your crime like that, and then the defense attorney was just like not very good either.
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That's just a mess of a show.
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But I'm glad some justice has been served for Tupac 30 years later.
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But that's completely being overshadowed by this by Lindsay Clancy, yes.
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And now we're going into the Tyler Robinson case, the guy who killed Charlie Kirk, allegedly.
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There's a lot there that people can unpack too.
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Um, today he actually was in court and he was trying to keep cameras out and get it so that the media couldn't be present.
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Um, but the judge ordered just today that he would have to stay at trial and that media would be able to enter the courtroom and everything is probably going to be televised.
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It's kind of one of the biggest trials like since the O.J.
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Simpson trial.
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Like, it's gonna be wild.
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And, you know, these remind me of how important the media is and how much power they wield, but that is a double-edged sword because the media, just like Luigi, Luigi Magnoni, like the media can make a killer into a hero if they spin it a particular way.
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They can martyr these criminals and make them have a cult following, like even Charles Manson, like that happened.
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Like people worship Charles Manson, and you know, weird serial killers see things and they want to be them, and you never know who's out there watching and who emulates or models their behavior after these people.
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Like, I had John Wayne's John Wayne Gacy's brain in a container, some other wannabe serial killer out there.
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Like, there's just so much weird crap going on, and we have to stomp that out when we see it happening.
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We can't allow like evil criminal behavior to pass.
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We can't allow toxic femininity, we can't allow toxic masculinity, we can't allow toxic psycho behavior to go.
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Say something about it.
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Don't tolerate people who like worship these freaks.
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How much would you say that media influences the court of public opinion and thereby influences the outcome of these high-profile cases?
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Massively.
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Massively influences it.
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People aren't really going to sit there and pay every single attention to the trial.
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They might because there are a lot of true crime fans out there that go down this.
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But right now, for every trial like this, there's 12 million podcasters talking about it.
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You got Candace Owens talking about stuff, you got, you know, all these different people making shows about it and analyzing every little step of the way, which is great because on one hand it promotes transparency, but on the other hand, those people wield a power too, and you can get some very fervent followers all riled up.
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You've got people like lining up to see Luigi Mannioni and like dressed up and trying to ride him in jail.
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Like, there's just so much that goes into it.
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And it's been like that for years and decades and decades, and it's not stopping.
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So pay attention to the what the media says, don't believe everything you say.
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And if you see people getting all obsessed with it and getting all googly-eyed over some serial killers or some killers, you might want to stay away from this.
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It's a red flag.
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Yeah.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah, what do you make of the uh jurors wearing pink and seeming support?
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I don't know.
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I didn't see that, but I see that's that's why I can't weigh in on it.
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There's so, especially with the addition of social media, in addition to traditional media, there is so much information to try to digest that I I just like to see it to completion and then go over everything that's been laid out after the fact instead of trying to like I don't have the bandwidth and my algorithm's full of fishing videos and talking cats.
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Well, there was also that Carmelo Anthony trial that people have very strong opinions about, and it was very, very divisive.
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There was also That was a very flash in the pan one, too.
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It got, you know, it was there, and then next thing.
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Um, so I worked in Seminole County, Florida during the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin trial, and that was also a big media circus.
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Um, not as big as Casey Anthony, but it was up there.
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That was probably the second biggest one I've physically witnessed in the same jurisdiction as the court was taking place.
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And George Zimmerman ended up being a piece of crap and is still a piece of crap to this day, and still like trying to profit off of this.
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But there were so many people all heated up in defending him for killing this boy, and people had very strong opinions about all of this too.
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So it it really was my sign watching those two trials that like the media wields more power than the actual courtroom a lot of time.
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Because once you're out of that courtroom environment, you still got to go on to the defendant, that is, will still have to go on to their everyday life and win or lose.
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You could be out there and you could still be being raped over the coals.
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Your professional reputation could be down, you could never ever go back to normal life because people will not forget what has occurred.
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So you might be not found guilty, but doesn't mean that the court of public opinion is not finding you guilty and you will struggle from there on out.
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And maybe that's the real justice of it all.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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And then there's another one, uh, that that Horn Island incident.
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I don't even remember the boy's name right now, but they're not even yeah.
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Say it.
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Nolan Wells and the United States.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's it.
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And they haven't even completed the investigation.
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There's a lot of discrepancy even in the how they're conducting the investigation.
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And Al Sharpton got involved and he's getting sued by the family.
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I think if I have all that right, there's just so much to keep up with.
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That it's hard to really be informed about it unless you're really one of those true crime obsessives that just stays on it on a daily basis, and I just am not that.
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I feel like people used to be good at that.
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Like back in the day when cable was a thing and I had cable.
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Watch like Nancy Grace and watch like those judge shows and like full trial coverage would be on like Fox News or whatever.
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I feel like a lot of people don't have this is true.
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Like, I feel like people don't have cable anymore.
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We're just like moved away from that like constant cable age, and we're on the internet, we're on podcasts, and we're on like short YouTube clips or whatever.
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So the assessment and the information is more limited than people that had nothing to do but like sit there and watch a trial all day.
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So we gotta take that under consideration too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I guess that was uh that was it.
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The media plays a big part on court cases that are taking place very publicly.
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We're going to see more of them happening.
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We've seen a lot in the past, and as we go forward, please pay attention to that.
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Don't let the media influence you in such a strong way, and definitely don't worship criminals.
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Please, people, quit worshiping these criminals.
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Quit it.
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Quit it.
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And with that, that's all we have today.
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Y'all have yourselves a blue bell country day.
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We will see you next.
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Good morning.
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Good afternoon.
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Good evening.
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I'm Thomas Jenkins.
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This is WFU Z T V's the Pupils Voice podcast.
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I'm here in the studio with Blair Castro.
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Blair.
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How are you?
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I'm doing well.
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Tell me more.
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I don't feel like I'm on NBR right now.
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I was going for the view.
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That's not the view.
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They'd be screeching.
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Oh, it is.
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You can tell I don't watch it.
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So I want to talk a little bit about trials in the news and errors.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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So the Lindsay Clancy trial is going on right now.
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There's quite a few trials going on.
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I'll talk a little bit about other trials in the past that I've witnessed like take place in the media.
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There's trials going on every day.
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You can walk into a courthouse and just watch a trial.
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Did you know that?
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You should try it.
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Sounds boring.
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Except in Baymanette, because they probably won't let you through the door if you have anything like an ink pen or cell phone, you'd leave all that.
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But you can go in there like with nothing but your clothes.
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I did it once.
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I went to a trial and watched somebody who stole a cell phone and I watched the trial.
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Yeah.
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It was an accident.
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I was in the wrong room.
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But I stood because I was like too awkward to leave, and I just watched the whole trial.
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Yeah.
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But, anyways, trials in the news are a little special as opposed to trials that just take place down at the courthouse because there's this huge media blitz around them.
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And that is kind of the reason going back to Lindsay Clancy and other things.
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So, you know, I went to law school in Orlando, and the year of the Casey Anthony trial, I was in Orange County and I was interning there, and I actually lived down the road from Casey Anthony.
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And when the daughter Kaylee went missing, there was a big manhunt, and everybody was there searching for the baby.
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And I remember this all taking place, like all the neighbors, every neighborhood, like doing this, all the blitz around the courthouse, you know, everything that was going on with that was a media circus.
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And I started realizing at this point, I was like in my second year of law school, I was like, the real trial takes place in the media in the public eye.
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There's a trial in the courtroom, and there's a trial of public opinion.
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And the power of the media during these trials is very strong.
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I went back after law school and got my master's in entertainment business because I wanted to do the media side more than the law side because I saw how powerful it was and how much of an impact you can make with the media, especially during a high-profile court case.
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So going into that, by the way, it's really weird, is I get Casey Anthony's CVS medication updates on my cell phone to this day.
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For some reason, my number is attached to her CVS account, and I get her weird, like you're due for your flu vaccine.
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Unless it's another Casey Anthony, but it's really weird considering how close she lived in proximity to my old house.
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It's just strange.
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That's new on me.
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Yeah, and I get them like I got one yesterday.
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It's weird.
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Um, anyways, so the Lindsay Clancy trial, I see people comparing it to the Casey Anthony trial because these are mothers that killed their kids, and it's horrible.
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And win ape shit.
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Yes, and they're claiming postpartum psychosis.
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However, you know, if you pay attention to the trial, Lindsay Clancy was Googling things, um, seemed to have planned this out, sent her husband on errands.
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Like there's so many, there's a lot going on there.
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Now, I'm not going to get into all the details of this trial, but what I will say is that it isn't as black and white.
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There's probably going to be a hung jury on this right now.
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But the more disturbing thing about the trial isn't the fact that this woman did a horrible crime and killed her kids.
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Of course, that is disturbing.
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I mean, that's the most disturbing thing.
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But something else is the public in the way they're reacting to this.
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And all of these women who are coming out like making the TikToks, like saying Lindsay, and like joking about hurting their kids and joking about how they want to kill their kids.
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Like, I'm really disturbed by that.
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So, what do you think is going on with that aspect of this?
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And why are women coming out now and behaving in these kind of like irredeemable ways when it comes to this trial in particular?
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Nobody was really doing that for Casey Anthony.
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They weren't saying, same Casey, like, why are they doing it now to this woman who snapped and like killed her three kids?
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I was told I couldn't make any sexist jokes.
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Well, I want to have an honest discussion.
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I want to know, like, why what do you think about this?
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Well, see, the the thing is, I and not just as a man, but just as a person, I just haven't paid much attention to it.
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Why?
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Because this is gonna go on for a long time, and there's gonna be a lot of information still being sorted out, and I usually just wait to back cleanup at the end on these kinds of things.
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Okay.
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Well, some people would say that what's going on with this trial is showing a type of female behavior that is very toxic, a toxic femininity, if you will, which I think we need to acknowledge that it does exist in these extreme cases.
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I consider myself a feminist who fights for women's rights, but I don't consider myself that kind of like crazy toxic feminist who would advocate for it understanding how someone could murder their children or understanding how people should, you know, like I don't know.
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There's also something interesting about um court cases.
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If you've ever paid attention to that Lorena Bobbitt case from like the 90s, I didn't.
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Oh, she was abused, like she was abused.
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Terrible things were happening to this woman.
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And when she snapped, I you know, after hearing the details of the case, I already made jokes in the media, but she was being treated horrifically, and I can understand why someone snapped in that case.
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Now, granted, that's this woman's kids were not abusing her.
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These were little kids and like a baby and stuff.
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Like, right, why?
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What would possess someone?
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Obviously, like something demonic or something very, very mentally wrong with them.
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So I'm just perplexed as to why public opinion in this case is so supportive of someone who experienced psychotic behavior and committed murder.
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Well, it seems like on the women's side, they are convinced that the man had something to do with it.
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And I don't know if that's actually true based on information given or if that's just radical feminism at work, to be honest.
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I'll probably get raked over the cold for saying that, but that's that's the impression I get.
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From the limited information I have on this, which is probably what the public assumes, I do think that there's more to it with him.
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I don't think he did it.
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I think that he may have contributed to her psychosis and negligently, you know, did not treat her and did not help when he was asked for help and when she was clearly selling signs of stuff.
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However, that doesn't equate to that's negligence, perhaps.
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I don't think that's a crime.
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Um, maybe more information will come out later, but he's not the one on trial, she is.
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He's not the one who did the deed, she did.
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And I think the trial is for her and not for him at this time.
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We need to focus on the person that the trial's going on.
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And by the way, speaking of trials and media blitz um and these toxic people, 30 years ago, my favorite rapper of all time, Tupac Shitor.
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No, Tupac was killed.
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I wrote a paper on this in high school, and here I am 30 years later, and I just want to say that the guy who did it, well, one of the people associated with it, not even the gunman, but somebody who had helped plan this was found guilty.
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And that trial was all over the news.
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If you paid attention to that, there's other people I think this guy snitched on himself in his like biography.
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He was like writing books and bragging about like being a part of this hit, and that's so stupid.
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What a what a dumb person to just brag about your crime like that, and then the defense attorney was just like not very good either.
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That's just a mess of a show.
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But I'm glad some justice has been served for Tupac 30 years later.
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But that's completely being overshadowed by this by Lindsay Clancy, yes.
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And now we're going into the Tyler Robinson case, the guy who killed Charlie Kirk, allegedly.
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There's a lot there that people can unpack too.
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Um, today he actually was in court and he was trying to keep cameras out and get it so that the media couldn't be present.
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Um, but the judge ordered just today that he would have to stay at trial and that media would be able to enter the courtroom and everything is probably going to be televised.
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It's kind of one of the biggest trials like since the O.J.
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Simpson trial.
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Like, it's gonna be wild.
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And, you know, these remind me of how important the media is and how much power they wield, but that is a double-edged sword because the media, just like Luigi, Luigi Magnoni, like the media can make a killer into a hero if they spin it a particular way.
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They can martyr these criminals and make them have a cult following, like even Charles Manson, like that happened.
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Like people worship Charles Manson, and you know, weird serial killers see things and they want to be them, and you never know who's out there watching and who emulates or models their behavior after these people.
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Like, I had John Wayne's John Wayne Gacy's brain in a container, some other wannabe serial killer out there.
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Like, there's just so much weird crap going on, and we have to stomp that out when we see it happening.
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We can't allow like evil criminal behavior to pass.
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We can't allow toxic femininity, we can't allow toxic masculinity, we can't allow toxic psycho behavior to go.
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Say something about it.
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Don't tolerate people who like worship these freaks.
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How much would you say that media influences the court of public opinion and thereby influences the outcome of these high-profile cases?
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Massively.
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Massively influences it.
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People aren't really going to sit there and pay every single attention to the trial.
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They might because there are a lot of true crime fans out there that go down this.
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But right now, for every trial like this, there's 12 million podcasters talking about it.
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You got Candace Owens talking about stuff, you got, you know, all these different people making shows about it and analyzing every little step of the way, which is great because on one hand it promotes transparency, but on the other hand, those people wield a power too, and you can get some very fervent followers all riled up.
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You've got people like lining up to see Luigi Mannioni and like dressed up and trying to ride him in jail.
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Like, there's just so much that goes into it.
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And it's been like that for years and decades and decades, and it's not stopping.
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So pay attention to the what the media says, don't believe everything you say.
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And if you see people getting all obsessed with it and getting all googly-eyed over some serial killers or some killers, you might want to stay away from this.
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It's a red flag.
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Yeah.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah, what do you make of the uh jurors wearing pink and seeming support?
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I don't know.
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I didn't see that, but I see that's that's why I can't weigh in on it.
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There's so, especially with the addition of social media, in addition to traditional media, there is so much information to try to digest that I I just like to see it to completion and then go over everything that's been laid out after the fact instead of trying to like I don't have the bandwidth and my algorithm's full of fishing videos and talking cats.
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Well, there was also that Carmelo Anthony trial that people have very strong opinions about, and it was very, very divisive.
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There was also That was a very flash in the pan one, too.
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It got, you know, it was there, and then next thing.
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Um, so I worked in Seminole County, Florida during the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin trial, and that was also a big media circus.
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Um, not as big as Casey Anthony, but it was up there.
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That was probably the second biggest one I've physically witnessed in the same jurisdiction as the court was taking place.
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And George Zimmerman ended up being a piece of crap and is still a piece of crap to this day, and still like trying to profit off of this.
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But there were so many people all heated up in defending him for killing this boy, and people had very strong opinions about all of this too.
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So it it really was my sign watching those two trials that like the media wields more power than the actual courtroom a lot of time.
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Because once you're out of that courtroom environment, you still got to go on to the defendant, that is, will still have to go on to their everyday life and win or lose.
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You could be out there and you could still be being raped over the coals.
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Your professional reputation could be down, you could never ever go back to normal life because people will not forget what has occurred.
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So you might be not found guilty, but doesn't mean that the court of public opinion is not finding you guilty and you will struggle from there on out.
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And maybe that's the real justice of it all.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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And then there's another one, uh, that that Horn Island incident.
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I don't even remember the boy's name right now, but they're not even yeah.
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Say it.
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Nolan Wells and the United States.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's it.
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And they haven't even completed the investigation.
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There's a lot of discrepancy even in the how they're conducting the investigation.
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And Al Sharpton got involved and he's getting sued by the family.
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I think if I have all that right, there's just so much to keep up with.
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That it's hard to really be informed about it unless you're really one of those true crime obsessives that just stays on it on a daily basis, and I just am not that.
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I feel like people used to be good at that.
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Like back in the day when cable was a thing and I had cable.
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Watch like Nancy Grace and watch like those judge shows and like full trial coverage would be on like Fox News or whatever.
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I feel like a lot of people don't have this is true.
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Like, I feel like people don't have cable anymore.
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We're just like moved away from that like constant cable age, and we're on the internet, we're on podcasts, and we're on like short YouTube clips or whatever.
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So the assessment and the information is more limited than people that had nothing to do but like sit there and watch a trial all day.
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So we gotta take that under consideration too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I guess that was uh that was it.
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The media plays a big part on court cases that are taking place very publicly.
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We're going to see more of them happening.
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We've seen a lot in the past, and as we go forward, please pay attention to that.
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Don't let the media influence you in such a strong way, and definitely don't worship criminals.
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Please, people, quit worshiping these criminals.
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Quit it.
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Quit it.
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And with that, that's all we have today.
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Y'all have yourselves a blue bell country day.
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We will see you next.
