Quantum Connections & Unconditional Remembrance

The Crone Codes is kicking off the new year unlocking important secrets of Life, Love and living with guest Laurie Seymour, M.A. She and Joan go deep exploring energetic codes; the power of remembrance; a lens beyond healing; how to dance with Life; love as a frequency; embracing our fullness and the new beginnings of this one year. They also unpack how Laurie’s new book Unconditional Remembrance: Your Connection to Source is a doorway to embodied remembrance of our true nature and our personal connection to our Source of all life.

02:08 Laurie’s Biography and Accomplishments

05:45 Understanding Energetic Coding

11:12 Laurie’s Journey to Energy Literacy

24:49 The Concept of Unconditional Remembrance

28:28 The Power of Making Bold Statements

30:17 Embodied Experience and Wisdom

32:01 The Book as a Doorway

32:31 Letting go of how others respond

33:43 Our Roles and Scripts as Women

34:25 Navigating the Unknown

36:34 The wild idea we dare not do

39:10 What innovation & creativity teach us about our ideas

40:34 The active dimension in Meditation

43:45 Understanding Love as a Frequency

Laurie Seymour, M.A.

Website: https://thebacainstitute.com/

Quantum Connection Quiz: https://thebacainstitute.com/quantum-connection-quiz/

Transcript

Joan: Welcome back to the Crone Codes. I am your host, the creator and resident Crone Joan Advent, and I am so honored and really delighted to share with you today my beautiful friend and wise sister Laurie Seymour. Welcome, Laurie.

Laurie: Hmm. Thank you Joan. We are, we have, we have a long history, even though it’s been a long stretch of time too, of not being in each other’s, you know, immediate fields, and I’m, I’m really thrilled to be doing this with you.

It feels like a great opportunity for a deep conversation.

Joan: Absolutely. And you have a new book that’s just come out and I’m, I’m really honored and excited to unpack some of the pieces of that with you. So it feels like a really auspicious time to have you here.

Laurie: Great.

Joan: And I do also want to mention dear listener, that my sweet dog, Molly, is here on my lap, and so she may make herself more known during the course of our interview. She may need to be, moved in the course of our interview.

Laurie: Or we can just feel her unconditional love.

Joan: Yes. Yes. Well, as, as long as it, as long as we can still hear each other.

Laurie: Right. Okay. Deal.

Joan: I’m all for that. So I’m going to begin as I like to do, which is really to offer Laurie’s, biography and accomplishments as a meditation, both for Laurie and for you, the listener. Because I really believe that when we do this, when we receive the truth of someone and who they are and what they have created in their lives it gives us the opportunity to reflect not only on the crone codes or the codes that that person carries, but it can remind us of what we both carry within ourselves and what we aspire to. So I want to invite you, Laurie, and our listeners, if it’s safe for you to close your eyes and to receive the wonder and the beauty of Laurie Seymour.

Laurie is the host of Wisdom Talk Radio International Executive Mentor and certified Master trainer. She is an MA and is the founder and the CEO of the Baca Institute, and she is the newly minted author of Unconditional Remembrance, Your Connection to Source. Over 25 years ago, Laurie was honored to receive the stewardship of a special energetic technology Turaya Touch and Turaya meditation that activates your connection with Source, raising your vibration, and amplifying your ability to create from the infinite field of potential. Laurie is also the creator of the Quantum Connection Process, helping each person she works with to build a program, a business, and a life that expresses your Divine Blueprint, and gives you the financial flow you deserve with the time, health and wellbeing to enjoy it. And she has a quiz called the Quantum Connection Quiz, which you can take for free, and I will be sharing that in the show notes. So these are some of the dimensions of Laurie and I wanna welcome you again.

Laurie: What an experience to have it read from the place of, of being able to really receive it.

Yeah. Thank you.

Joan: You’re welcome. That is. It’s important to me, both for you as my guest, but I think for all of us as human beings, for, for us to have those experiences of reflection and remembrance, as you say.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: Yes. And I know before we got on, the recording that we were talking about, the importance of codes and energetic coding. And even for you to maybe articulate some of the codes you’re aware of just from hearing that for yourself and how that, just how that whole concept, how it’s been meaningful for you, how our listeners can perhaps consider that for themselves.

Laurie: I may speak about it differently than you do.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: Which is great because we’re just adding to the, to the mix and to the pot, so to speak. Um, because everything truly is energy. Everything in in life, everything that is, that is alive has an energetic imprint to it and an energetic coding. And as we, Hmm. As we evolve, as we go through, through life, we’re impacted so much by our, by, by our environment, not just our physical or, our home environment or our work environment, but also the, hmm, the cosmic radiation, the, the sun and what that gives off.

And it. And what’s happening in the entire world. Because we know that we’re part of a universal field. We know that we’re part of this quantum field. And given that we hold within us the kind of, uh, um, hologram of the whole. And it’s so wonderful because now with all the, the research into quantum physics, they have demonstrated that, oh, what happens on the other side of the world does indeed impact us.

So that is a kind of, hmm, foundational statement, if you will. Um, I work with energy in, in everything I do. In the Turaya meditation sessions that I run in the Turaya touch that I both teach and offer in the individual work, and the classes, I do. Really in everything. And, and I think of, in this way that everything gets encoded with the frequencies that are needed in that moment.

So whenever I, I do the Turaya meditation twice a week online and before I begin, I’m always asking about what’s needed that day, what’s needed in that moment. And, and since I’m working with higher consciousness energy symbols I’m aware that I don’t have to Hmm direct those or do anything that’s, personal will related, but to allow the new frequencies, ‘cause it’s, feels like it’s always brand new to come through, to come through those symbols, to come through, to come through my words. And as we’re impacted by what we hear and what we receive that is an encoding, that is a, a way that we’re being impacted by those, those codes so that we can raise our own frequency. So that we can move to a new dimension within ourselves that we are always doing anyway. But someone this morning said the difference between, let’s see if I can remember exactly what he said,

Letting life run you. Or engaging with life.

These are different words, but that that was the sense of it engaging with life and us being the dancing partner.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: And that it’s not a leading or a following, but a flow.

Joan: Yes, yes. There’s a lot I could say about that, but I recently have been exploring that exact, we’ll say energetic way of holding myself in relationship to life is to, to both meet it

Laurie: yeah

Joan: with full presence. Not be overpowered by it, but also not be like the bull in the China shop.

Laurie: Yeah. Yeah. Um,

Joan: so that, that particular, point of finding that right balance.

Laurie: And it’s, and it’s not a balance that’s ever static.

That’s the, the incredible thing about it is that we are always being moved to, okay, shift here shift there, so that we’re not a victim, which is like life doing to us. And we’re not the, as you just said, the bull in the China shop. Trying to, well, to try and control things, you know, to say, oh, well I want it my way.

Because Yeah. That’s what we’re seeing so much of these days. It doesn’t work.

Joan: Well, it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work. But it’s also to the extent that, as you said, to the extent that we are being impacted and impacting others. Mm-hmm. It’s, it’s like pulling everyone in some ways, I guess, along with us.

Laurie: Yes.

Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes.

Joan: So I know a little bit of your story and I, I don’t know how much we are meant to dive into our story, but. You didn’t always know about these things, right? Mm-hmm. These energies and coding, and I know that you and I shared the history of both having been trained as psychotherapists and.

So how, how does one become we’ll say so energy literate or energetic?

Laurie: You know what I think is funny as I reflect on, on my life now and especially my early life and, and also seeing my daughter because there’s some real similarities. It’s that when I was little, I think I both knew. I knew things that I had no reason to know from this life. And I came in with that, but there was so little support for that.

So little, um, recognition or, um, understanding or in, in fact quite the opposite of a, you know, don’t get too big for your britches and, you know, better settle down kid and at all kinds of messages like that. That set up in me that kind of, I didn’t know what was going on. I really didn’t. And I just thought I, and without going into all of that, that did very much take me into the, the search for what was true.

What was true? What was real? What was, how could I understand myself? How could I understand other people? And, you know, becoming a psychotherapist became a, well, of course, you know, that was, I never had a, oh, I want to be something else. Well, I wanted to be an archeologist. I wanted to be a librarian, but really, truly, I was going to be a psychotherapist one way or another.

Joan: Yes. Solving those mysteries.

Laurie: And the mystery of self, first of all.

Joan: Right? Yeah, exactly. I know one of the things that you mentioned in your book, which I loved, and I, I’m going to get the paraphrasing wrong, but it’s something to the effect of you can’t really be trained as a psychotherapist and not believe that something is was it broken or missing or

Laurie: mm-hmm.

Joan: Flawed in some way or, or hurting.

Laurie: Yeah.

Joan: And I, I know that there’s a lot of emphasis in the world on healing and certainly in many spiritual communities on, healing and our growth work. And, and as someone who has been a long time psychotherapist

Laurie: mm-hmm

Joan: my guess is you’ve seen people who can also kind of keep going with that and going with that and going with that. But, but it sounds like you are suggesting, and your book is suggesting that there, that there is a different way, there’s an easier way, there’s a simpler way.

Laurie: And it’s, it’s, it’s, yes and. Because what I really became aware of is that we can spend our whole lives believing that we need to be healed. And of course, and this is the party line, truly, you’re never done healing. You’re never, you’re never done. There’s always more and that casts a different light. Or it, it, it’s seeing life and seeing oneself through a lens that I don’t feel is particularly helpful or healthful.

Hmm. Now we can, you know, we can, I’ll just briefly contrast that with what people talk about um, spiritually overriding. Mm-hmm. Your, your stuff, your shadow, your whatever. And I’m not talking about that either. So this isn’t about going into bliss and everything’s just fine and everything happens that’s supposed to happen. And that feels almost even more exhausting to, to think of life like that.

Joan: Right. Well, it is suppressing in my experience.

Laurie: Yeah. It doesn’t feel true. It doesn’t, it doesn’t have the ring or the experience of truth. Right. But if we, if we go beyond all of that and go beyond the either or, we, I, I’ve been able to recognize through some very specific experiences in my own life that the more that we allow ourselves to, um, get curious about ourselves, look at what’s unfolding, look at what we’re wanting to create and tap into that creative source, that creative life force within us, then what we’re doing is we’re, we’re focusing our attention on, on the creative expression. And Yeah, the stuff comes up, the doubt, the fear, the, the old situations.

But we’re not going digging for them. So instead of trying to just unearth everything and keep focusing on, well, we gotta get the, we gotta go deeper. We gotta go deeper, we gotta go deeper. Allowing the depth of what is there to, to arise when it does. And to address it from that place of, of such love for ourselves and, and a recognition of of the moreness that is there along with that, the moreness of who we are, the fullness of who we are. And even what, what that was about. Whatever the, the thing is, if there was a thing.

Joan: Right. If there’s, yes. If there’s a painful dynamic or mm-hmm. Painful loop of, uh, belief or what have you, that keeps running.

Laurie: Yeah. To see them as patterns.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: Not as truth.

Joan: Yes, exactly. And what you shared earlier about the aspects of your, we’ll say innate gifts that you were born with and the way, I think certainly in our culture and most Western culture we are, we are taught to pay less attention to that and more attention to what helps us stay in the fold, so to speak, whatever that fold may be.

It’s in the family.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: The culture in the church, in the, you know, the school system, any divergent gifts or what have you it’s like, put that over there.

Laurie: Don’t get too wild.

Joan: Right. But I can see how that would. It does make it hard for us to a, remember the truth of who we are when we’re having to check those things at the door.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Joan: And, um, it, it just gives us such a partialized view and it’s such a skewed. Such a skewed,

Laurie: and, and we’re always looking outside of ourselves.

And so we never get to really, um, take the inner journey, and really explore what’s possible. We’re always, we’re always trying to fit in, or if we’re, if we’re beyond fitting in and we’re, we’ve, we’re pushing aside the things that, that might rock the boat.

Joan: Right.

Laurie: That might, you know, mean we have to live, wanna live somewhere else, or we wanna do something different.

And oh my goodness, what am I, what’s gonna, how am I gonna pay my mortgage if I do something different? Or, or leave my marriage? Or, or, or, or, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that. We get so afraid of looking at what, what is true that we, we lose out on, on those gifts. We lose out on what our potential is.

Joan: And I’m struck by, because I would say a significant segment of my listeners are women who would be around my age, your age, and maybe a bit younger who are still at a point where they haven’t felt full permission.

Laurie: Yeah.

Joan: To be the fullness of who they are

Laurie: and, and the, the cost of that gets higher and higher and higher.

It doesn’t get easier. It doesn’t diminish it. The cost. The cost is not only personal and this is what I moved to say right now, it’s also. It’s also impactful for our families, for our communities, for our world. Because you, you do come in with a particularly unique you and, and, and a set of codes and a set of, um, capacities, and if that doesn’t have space to unfold, if that doesn’t have space to be brought into the world that symphony that’s being created in the world is missing a note. And another note here, and another note there, and it starts sounding discordant. And that’s what we’re witnessing right now is the discordance that is taking over. Now it, it isn’t. Mm-hmm. It looks that way.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: But the more we can bring our own fullness out into the world.

We are contributing to the world in a major, major, major way.

Joan: Yes. And is it, is it true that even you write, committing to writing your book and bringing it out like that is, is an example of being willing to do the thing?

Laurie: You know,

Yeah, I guess it is. And here’s something that, um, I just discovered today.

So I, I, I, because this is a nine year, we’re at least when we’re recording this in December, this is a nine year, we’re going to move into a one year, and the, the way that, that these cycles work is in cycles of nine, and then the nine is the completion year. And this, I just went back earlier today to look at when did I start my book?

Because I knew I had started it. I had done this big push and then I set it aside for a long time and it was right as this cycle began.

Joan: Wow.

Laurie: And I didn’t realize it had been that long, but it had,

Joan: Hmm.

Laurie: So here we are in this completion time and, and I feel so much completing in me, um, having completed in me and like I am absolutely being prepared for what’s to come.

And I’m, and I’m, I. I imagine that there are some of your listeners that are feeling that, whether they’re tuning into the nine cycle, a nine year cycle or not, but just because this feels like such a big time of, of preparation, of looking back to realize what has actually been completed and to opening some of those parts of us that we haven’t let have expression.

Joan: Mm, yes. Which can be so. I have found, and, and this, the creation of this podcast is in part, an aspect of that for me.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: And it, it can be so both liberating and of course feel edgy at times, but

Laurie: all of it feels edgy.

Joan: That’s true. That’s true. If we’re being honest.

Laurie: If we’re being honest it does feel edgy.

And it is edgy. But would we, I’ll say it to myself, but would we want anything else? I mean, comfort is, is highly overrated.

Joan: You’re right, you’re right. It is. Sometimes it’s helpful to have a moment to catch your breath.

Laurie: Absolutely. I, I’m not, I’m not saying that we don’t need the time out and the rest and the Yeah, absolutely.

‘cause we do, we need to nourish ourselves and feel nourished before we go out on the edge again.

Joan: Yes. And to put in like to have the roots or the tap roots so that we can grow big and big and tall and big and strong. Yes,

Laurie: yes. Yeah. Yeah. It’s not about just taking off and, you know, flying into the cosmos at all.

We need that tap root, as you say.

Joan: Yes. So tell us about Unconditional Remembrance and what that I, I have some clues to what that is, but to, to someone who’s just tuning in. What does it mean?

Laurie: That was for me. I’ll just say to begin with a bold title, A bold statement.

Joan: Mm-hmm.

Laurie: Um, it’s like, no, no, no. I can’t put it out that strongly, that that really was my first response to it.

And then I realized, but yet that is what I am talking about. That when we truly start to look at our lives from this perspective of, through this lens of, of potential and possibility. And recognizing that when we came into life, I think, and this is by think, by design, we forget. We forget where we came from.

We forget that connection with, with Source. We forget that we come from love and that we are love. Then we go through life and the process of living is one, Sometimes it’s one of, you know, burying the remembrance even further and further and further under. But ultimately it’s that process of remembering, remembering.

And what I mean by that, remembering our connection with Source. That that is our original blessing. And there’s nothing that we can do that will remove that. However, we have free choice, free will about remembering it and, and living with that remembrance. So that’s really what I mean by remembrance is re is remembering and then living from that remembrance, as I remember in more and more moments in my everyday life, that connection.

Really, everything gets changed. Everything is different because I am, I’m carrying a different set of frequencies. I’m tuning into frequencies that are always, you know, new and moving me into what’s next. And that experience of being loved of, of I am okay. I am it. It’s all, it’s all. Okay. It’s all okay.

Yeah. I’ve had all these different experiences. It didn’t feel okay as they were happening. Of course, yes. But now I get to take a different view and a different experience of them. When I get curious, when I, when I start to see that forgetting and remembering, oh, so I came in having to go through that. I came in with having to learn about that and it’s not ‘cause I had to suffer.

It’s because how was I going to, to come to be the teacher that I am now without having gone through that? I, I, you know, I, at 22 I was starting to run groups and I was obnoxious, you know, because, because I knew these some things.

Joan: Hmm.

Laurie: But I didn’t have the life experience that was letting me connect all of those pieces up in my own body.

Joan: Yes, yes.

Hmm.

So there’s a couple of pieces. One that I just wanna name, which to me felt so touching was your willingness to go for the bold statement. And it reminds me of, the poet David Whyte, who I’ve heard speak many times. But he was speaking about when a, a woman says, I know the truth. Like when a man says I know the truth.

Mm-hmm. Like, that’s kind of it just. They can say that without, they frequently say that. We’ll say without much.

Laurie: I know what’s right.

Joan: Yep. Or consideration. But when a woman says, I know truth, or I know the truth, she’s been like to Hell and back, and around the world to really explore it and feel it out and, and say, this kernel is true.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: And so that really struck me and was so moving because of course part of what the crone codes and the Crone Essence is about is a willingness to do that. And having lived enough to, to do that, you know, to have, have enough lived experience coupled with your own innate wisdom

mm-hmm.

To stand in that, and not from the ego standpoint, but from being a transmission of wisdom and truth. Hmm. So I just wanna honor and acknowledge that, and celebrate that.

Hmm.

Laurie: I, I, I love those words, how you describe it. And partly it’s, it’s also a, it’s having the embodied experience of that and not just the information. The information, it only takes us so far. I mean, it was one of the things that was really important to me in the writing of this book that, that the codes in the way that I think of them, this book is really embedded with those codes and embedded with those frequencies.

And when we experience something energetically, then we get to decode it in our own life. Like, what does that mean? How can I live it? Um, what do I need to know about it? It, we get to have all of those kind of, curiosity moments, curiosity questions, but the experience of it is there in the body.

Joan: Yes. And your book, I will attest to your book.

Is, it does carry that resonance. It does reading, it does transport the reader. It’s, it’s not just an exchange of cognitive ideas.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: And it does speak to the power of language to hold codes. Mm-hmm. As, as you say, which, whether it’s the spoken word or the written word. Mm-hmm. Um, it’s very clear. That what you’re bringing through, through your book,

Laurie: it that delights me to hear Joan.

It really does.

Yeah. Thank you.

Joan: I’m so glad. You’re welcome. The book is like a, it’s like a doorway, you know? It’s, it’s not just, again, cognitive ideas. Mm-hmm. It is like a doorway to that remembrance. Yeah. ‘

Laurie: Cause that’s what I believe we all are wanting. And we all have the capacity for. Some people in their personal will because it’s just so strong they won’t ever go for it.

Right. And that’s okay. I mean, I’ve had to surrender to that in sometimes the people that are closest to me who it’s like, Nope, nope, nope. And dig in heels and this is how it is. And sometimes my heart aches, but then I just have to surrender to that too. And it’s like, no, I can’t control any of that. And I, nor do I want to, I don’t wanna take on their karma.

Joan: No. And how, how long have we spent so long trying to make it better for others or lighten their load. Right.

Laurie: And especially dare I say, as mothers, oh, you know, that’s a huge learning and um, I can’t say it’s a lesson that I’ve learned. But I get to see it. I get to see it, and it’s like, oh, oh, there that is again.

But then I can be gentle with myself and, and just recognize and say, oops, for a moment, I forgot who I am.

Joan: Yes, yes. Oh, thank you for that. Yes. Because it’s, we have these roles that we play in this life.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: Whether it’s mother or wife, or. Even daughter.

Laurie: Mm mm-hmm. Best friend.

Joan: Right. Best friend or colleague, or whatever the case may be.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: And it can be easy to get caught up in the belief that that’s who we are.

Laurie: Right.

Joan: And all the scripts that go with those roles and

Laurie: Exactly. And, and then we set up these expectations of ourselves that we, that this is how we’re supposed to be. Oh, I got it. I got it. I got who I am. Well, I can never just get who I am because as soon as I do, as soon as I have that feeling, what happens is I move right into the, the next level.

Joan: Mm-hmm.

Laurie: And then I’m there in the unknown, and all I wanna do is cry because I feel myself in the void and it really is a void. I don’t have, the markers aren’t familiar anymore, and so I’ve, I’ve actually traversed, I’ve gone through the doorway and I’m in new territory.

And as I look around, it’s like, whoa. Um, sometimes the one way, well, and one of the ways that I know that that’s what’s happening is that feeling of all I wanna do is just cry because it’s, and it’s not, I’m not sad and I’m, I’m not really empty. Mm-hmm. But it, I feel myself in the void. And so it, it, it’s just, it’s just the way it expresses in me and.

Yeah. When we finish something, when we’ve gone through something, there needs to be that time of, of fertile emptiness, Really.

Joan: Yes.

Right. Yes, and here in the northern hemisphere, we’re heading into the winter, which is that, yeah. That latent.

Laurie: Mm-hmm, exactly.

Joan: Fertile darkness that time. Which this, this will be coming out, just after the new year, so we will have just passed through.

Laurie: Wonderful. The solstice

and yeah.

Joan: But we’re recording it on this end of it.

Laurie: But it’s all part of it. And, and the, the wonderful thing coming into this one year, we were talking about this before we started mm-hmm. Uh, this recording is that it’s a very, very potent time. And it’s a useful time as you’re listening to this today, whenever this is

Joan: mm-hmm.

Laurie: Consider what the seeds are that you’re wishing to plant in this new nine year cycle.

Joan: Mm.

Laurie: You know, what is it that you most want to do in your life? What’s the kinda wild and crazy thing that is, there is a kind of little idea, but you dare not quite do? What if you were to step into that? And experiment? It’s the, it’s the perfect time to start to bring that into being.

Joan: Mm-hmm.

Yes. I love that welcoming. It’s, it’s actually reminding me of, um, when I was 39 and I was feeling the, the urge for motherhood where, where previously it, it hadn’t been quite like that. And

Laurie: mm-hmm.

Joan: It was that thing. And interestingly, I, I had had, ‘cause being self-employed as a psychotherapist, I didn’t have traditional insurance.

Laurie: Right.

Joan: I had had maternity insurance, like for eons and let go. And then all of a sudden it was like, motherhood is calling me. And that was the thing. And, and now of course my daughter is 21. Um. But just the dimensions that, that opened within me, and certainly in my whole life, the trajectory of life and how it changes when we are willing to say yes.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: And step onto that edge.

Laurie: Yes. And I love that, you know, it is, it is a saying yes. Because we don’t have to. You know, and sometimes we are. I don’t know if people will recognize or, or, or, or find a, a familiarity to this. There, there are ideas that come to you and you say, oh, whoa, that’s too big.

Sometimes there’s ideas that come to me that I, that I start questioning. Not in the doubtful way, but in the, you know, is this the right timing? Sometimes there are ideas not for now, and the, they’re ideas for, you know, kind of down the road. And sometimes they’re not even ideas for me, they’re ideas for someone else.

‘cause I, um, people do tap into those things and, and people have probably also had the experience where, um, you’ve had this brilliant idea for something and you don’t act on it. And suddenly someone on the other side of the world just. Wait, wait a minute, they, they took my idea.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: And I’ve come to understand that in researching innovation and creativity, that ideas are floating out there.

And if they come to you, they’re coming to you for a reason. And if you don’t act on it, they’re not only coming to you and someone else is going to, you know, take it and run with it.

Joan: Right. It’s, it’s like something that’s wanting to be born into this world.

Laurie: Exactly.

Joan: And they’re gonna find the willing parent or vehicle or steward.

Laurie: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so action is really needed. We cannot just be passive in this.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: I, I think about, you and I both, I think, use the word receiving and the importance of being in that state of receiving, but that’s not a passive state.

Joan: No, no. In fact, I just did an episode about, in part I was sharing the, what they’ve learned about conception and how the egg actually chooses and brings in the sperm that it’s,

Laurie: Wow,

Joan: it’s not, that it’s overtaken or, um, oh.

That it, that it just receives, but it is this active process.

Laurie: Yeah. Yeah.

Joan: Mind blown.

Laurie: So I, I talk about, um Turaya meditation as, as an active form of meditation. And I, I’ve had people just go, you know, what are you talking about? Or What does that mean? Or, because people like to think of meditation as we are just being in the quiet, and yes we are.

We are being in the quiet. That is an essential part of meditation. And if you’re in an active state of receiving, you get to receive what the energies are bringing to you and engage with them and, and, and relate with them. See what’s next. You know, ask the questions then once you’ve received that. Be, be the guardian of that light.

Joan: Yes.

Laurie: The active guardian. How is this wanting to be made manifest?

Joan: Yes. Which is, I am, my sense is that there is a certain degree of maturity required for that. Like, it, it’s not a, um, it’s not just a passive consumer or recipient.

Laurie: Right.

Joan: That there is that capacity to, again, whether it’s to say yes or to

cultivate within us what needs to be cultivated in order to bring it through.

Laurie: It’s also not, and I feel moved to, to bring this contrast in.

Joan: Mm-hmm.

Laurie: It’s, it’s not a, a push, push push.

Joan: Mm-hmm.

Laurie: Because that’s, you know, it’s like our ego likes to push and our ego likes to, you know, think we’re in charge and control and, and have the expectations of how it’s going to go.

So part of being that willing dance partner with life and, and being a willing dance partner with the idea

Joan: mm-hmm.

Laurie: Is saying, what’s new today? How is it wanting to be expressed today? What am I needing to bring in today? And to have that, that openness to experience and that openness to explore, not just in the beginning with the idea, but but all the way through to the, the creation, the manifestation.

‘cause otherwise we’re just pushing.

Joan: Right, right. And then the birthing and the letting go.

Laurie: Mm. Birthing is definitely an active process, right?

There’s nothing passive about it.

Joan: No, although I could go off on a tangent, I’m gonna choose not to do so. So we just have a few more minutes before we wrap this up and I feel compelled just to ask, for a, a truth about love.

Just whatever.

Laurie: Mm-hmm.

Joan: Comes to you.

Laurie: Let me just. I’m gonna see.

It is that truth is a frequency, it’s a vibration. It is not an emotion. And we get caught in the expectation or the thinking that love is an emotion and then when it’s not there, that we’re somehow bereft of being, uh, capable of love or worthy of being loved. But in fact it is a frequency and that when we are able to embrace it and hold it and receive it and allow it to move in us, then we don’t ever step into doubt, because the doubt the doubt comes when we forget. And then as soon as we remember, we remember that, oh, this feeling, this feeling of love is the truth.

Joan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yes. So it, I have the vision of for me, I have often used the, the words like the river of love, like stepping into the river of love and having that physical sensation of being in a river where you can, you can either be like on the edge with the toe in or you can be in the river, you know, and feel it really moving through.

So that comes back to me when I hear your words.

Yeah.

Laurie: And no matter what, even if we’re just ticking our toe in, the truth is that we’re really right in the center of it and it’s just, you know, our personal will that’s saying, well, no, I’m just gonna stick my toe in.

That we’re always in exactly

that

Joan: state of connection, whether we’re consciously aware of it.

Yeah. Or open to it or not. Yes. Right.

Laurie: That is what I mean.

Joan: Yeah. So tell our listeners how they can find you. I of course, will put things in the show notes, but, but tell them what you would like to share.

Laurie: Sure. Um, I am on all the different social medias. I’m not on TikTok, but I am. Pretty much everywhere else.

Um, and on my website is thebacainstitute.com. That’s BACA and you can find all my blog posts. You can find the Quantum Connection quiz that you mentioned. And, uh, and that’s allowing you to see what your, , your quantum connection archetype is. And that’s gonna give you a whole lot of information about your superpower, your, you know, your learning edge.

Um, so it’s, I think it’s, I think it’s a pretty worthwhile step in one’s own thing. Um, there’s Turaya Meditation that I do twice a week, and you can find out about that, about Turaya Touch classes. This year I’ll be going to Hawaii, to not to Hawaii, to Australia a lot farther, um, to teach and um, and of course, you know, Unconditional Remembrance, Your Connection to Source.

Joan: Right, right here.

There it is. Thank you.

Laurie: Thank you.

Joan: Beautiful. So I wanna thank you, Laurie. I, I feel like we’ve just, we have just touched the, the tip, the very tip and would love to have you back another time. Um, but I wanna thank you for just your presence, for your Yes to being here, but also to writing the book.

Laurie: Yeah. Thank you Joan. I, I, so appreciate how you are in this, in this time and in this way, and, and I, I just feel the, such a, a beautiful flow and I love it. Thank you.

Joan: Thank you. My pleasure. And we wanna thank you dear listener, for being here with us. And I do like, I like to remind my, my listeners, which I think you’ll appreciate that whether they are making ripples in their life, whether you’re making ripples or making big waves in your life, that you are love and you are loved.