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We are met for more than just our title.
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We're meant for more than just our title.
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I truly believe that each and every one of us was put on this earth for a purpose.
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Welcome to the Stop Performing Life podcast.
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I am Melissa Tennessee, and this is the human connection movement.
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Each week, my guess and I will explore what it means to stop performing.
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Reconnect to what matters most.
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Create a life that feels deeply aligned with who you are.
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You did not press play by accident.
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Maybe this is the pause you've been waiting for.
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Let's begin.
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Um, listen, I have a question.
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What happens when the role is stripped away?
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The title.
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When your role is eliminated, or you got fired, or it was a situation where your role is repurposed.
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What happened?
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What was left?
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I have a partner, really a friend, who went through some really interesting transitions, I would say, in December.
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Um, his leader basically came in and said, now mind you, this is after a year and a half working with him.
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Uh, you know, this is just not working.
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Okay, don't make me unpack that.
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That's that's like so many issues with that to begin with.
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Okay, so move on.
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Back to my friend.
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His role was stripped away.
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No warning.
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Now, some of you listening to this, you know exactly what that feels like.
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The, oh my god, what the fuck are you mean?
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I don't have this job anymore.
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What do you mean?
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You go home.
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I don't have my job.
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I'm no longer this leader, this executive, this manager, director, whatever your title is, I'm no longer that.
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How as humans do we function and live through these identity changes?
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Well, honestly, some seek professional help, and totally, yes, please.
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That's not my job.
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I can't do that.
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I mean, I could, but it'd probably be dangerous for us both.
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Saying that out.
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But how do you help a friend who's going through this identity crisis when one big part of his identity was stripped away?
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It's like um I was watching The Resident a couple weeks ago, and there's a character on there, they call him Hawkins.
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I couldn't even tell you what his first name is, Hawkett.
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Um, and he is basically fired from the hospital, and he is going through the whole, well, if I can't be a doctor, I don't want to be anything.
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I if I can't be somebody in service of in this way practicing medicine, why am I here?
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I don't I don't know how I fill that void.
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That void that we feel.
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My friend's still struggling to figure that out.
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And that is something that you can't tell somebody.
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It you can't um coach them enough, you can't, you can only support them.
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Support them through the journey.
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Let them know, hey, I'm here if you need me.
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I am here if you want to re-rehearse for that interview.
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I'm here if you just want to go and have some coffee and talk about anything but being on LinkedIn for hours and trying to find a job.
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And oh, by the way, not getting anywhere.
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He feels like he's on that hamster wheel of, I would say almost a hamster wheel of doom.
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Like, what am I gonna do?
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Almost to the point of desperation.
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That void, that identity shift is costing him big time.
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It's unfortunate, it's costing him his peace.
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His peace.
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There's fear there, rightfully so.
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There is no judgment here, please.
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Because I've been there once.
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Believe me, I have had that situation happen to me.
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And it wasn't fun.
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It wasn't fun coming home and telling my husband and daughter I no longer had this job.
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It was a crushing blow.
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But thank God I had support around me, great connections and relationships, I was able to work through it pretty quickly and gain some confidence again.
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Because when that role is stripped, that role where God, you've put your your a lot into it.
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I mean, gosh, you put so much effort, so much presence, so much work, and it's no longer there.
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It just literally disappears.
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What are you left?
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It is not easy.
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Life is not easy.
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I am learning the older I get, the better and different.
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That the challenges are a misperception.
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They're actually opportunities.
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It doesn't feel like that in the moment, though.
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It did at high it does in hindsight feel like opportunities because I think about if that didn't happen to me, I don't know, 14-15 years ago, I wouldn't be right here.
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I wouldn't be sharing and and um talking on this stop performing life podcast.
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Your identity, and I'm sorry, I'm switching gears again real quick, is your identity being anchored in a role, and that role going away.
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Yes, you grieve, and you're left with a hollowness, you're left with some fear, you're left with some self-doubt, you're crushed.
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And sometimes it's really difficult for people to get out of that.
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They stay stuck.
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Some couple months, some a year, some years.
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They stay stuck.
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They get into that little or let that little voice in their head, the the ego, that nasty voice, not enough, not enough of something.
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That little ego just grabs popcorn and a beer, and he just, I don't know, sets up camp in your brain and just talks to you all day about all of the things that you are deficient in.
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Who's experienced that?
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Everyone.
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Because it is the human condition.
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It's called the ego.
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Yes.
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My little saboteur, his name is Klaus.
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It used to be Claude.
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Now it's Klaus.
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He has evolved to a more evolved name.
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Claude was one that was a little superficial.
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Klaus is the one that is very deep.
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And they're both this.
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I mean, it's the same persona.
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Um, I just gave him a different name when I learned more about how he it is a male.
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Um, he looks like Rembrandt's younger brother.
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Um, Rembrandt has a self-portrait that he did, and it's him in a beret.
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He has a really scrawny like mustache, and his hair's all wiry, and he has his maroon overcoat on.
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His brother looks just like him.
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Um, and I named him Claude.
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This was a couple years ago when I, you know, was learning about ego and how the saboteur shows up and how they're there to keep us safe.
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That's 200 million-year-old brain is there to keep us safe.
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And it keeps us playing small, right?
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So that's a whole nun podcast.
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Going back to the friend, and and and when our identity is ripped away from us, when the role is whipped away from us, what are we left with?
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The fucking ego, the saboteur, the claw that's in in in the corner of my brain, literally shoving popcorn in his mouth, drinking a fucking beer.
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And it's really hard when you're feeling it in your heart, the grief, the loss, and you have this guy in your head talking you through a bunch of stuff, whether it's deflecting, or whatever it is, right?
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Or it's pointed at you.
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It's hard to come out of that.
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The roles we play, which ones are the most important?
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When which ones are the forever roles?
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What are the forever roles?
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What are the temporary roles?
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The forever roles require no performance.
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No performance.
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Those would be the mom, the spouse, the sister.
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Some would argue spouse does require some performance.
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Mine doesn't.
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I believe when you meet your soulmate, it's your soulmate.
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They accept you unconditionally to who you are.
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You don't have to hide anything, you don't have to be somebody different than who you truly are with your spouse.
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And I'm hoping every one of you have something like that in your life.
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Husband, wife, significant other, somebody in your life.
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But the performing roles, the ones that usually come with a title.
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A title.
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That's your role.
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That's your title.
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So when that title's gone, what are you left with?
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There is one forever role that we always forget.
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It is the last thing we think about the relationship with our own selves.
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Getting really deep and understanding what I am good at, what am I not good at?
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What will I tolerate?
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What will I not tolerate?
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And what are my own expectations of myself and how I lead, how I show up, and how I navigate this world.
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Those answers to those kinds of questions I did not have answered until probably maybe about six or seven years ago at this point.
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When I went through a journey of an excavation process of here's your life's journey.
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Your life's story is your leadership journey, and your leadership journey is your life story.
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And I learned that from Doug Conant, who wrote the blueprint.
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And when I went through one of his courses, we went through this whole process of excavating the peaks and valleys of our life.
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And during the peaks and the valleys, what we're learning.
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When I think about the valleys, which we all remember the valleys so much more than we remember the peaks.
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We remember the really big peaks.
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Getting married, having a baby, um, saying I love you to your soulmate for the first time.
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Those are the things we remember.
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But the other peaks, uh, how when you felt the proudest at work because you delivered a project and how that made you feel and how that made you feel okay, yeah.
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Those are the ones we fit forget really quick.
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Why?
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Because of how fast the world is moving, yes, and how distracted we are.
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And then also, you know, little clot in our head, right?
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Our little ego doing the talk, keeping us distracted, but we absolutely remember the valleys quicker, faster, because they hurt the most.
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Who's with me?
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Yes, because they hurt the most.
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This excavation process held me understand when my identity was ripped away from me, I don't know, 14 years ago, I'm not very good with the dates.
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If you were to ask me, yes, I've been married with my husband since 1998.
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And for me to do the math, like, how many years have you been married?
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Hell, I don't know, long time.
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I don't do the math.
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No.
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So when I say these years, it's it was a while ago.
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So when I was stripped of that role a couple years ago, well, no, a while ago, um, I was left with absolutely this hole.
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And during this excavation process, why?
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But what I found really interesting, everything happens for a reason.
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Um, I'm just side note, I'm a certified Gallup Strengths coach, and I have my number one strength is connectedness.
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There are no coincidences, everything is connected to a higher power, which you hear me say all the time.
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And um, everything happens for a reason.
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At that time, I found this really interesting how I was doing this conference for this organization, and um it was February of that year, I can remember that, and um I delivered that conference.
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It was awesome.
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It was awesome.
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That immersive experience that I loved to do.
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After the conference, I walked behind the screens and I see the president with her COO talking.
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Well, I couldn't move because I needed to be where I needed to be to help the production company and stuff.
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And I was listening to these women rip apart somebody that was not present.
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Oh, by the way, wasn't present.
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But yet turn the corner with that individual coming up to them, complete mass, different face, completely fake.
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Just it nauseated me.
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And I thought to myself, and it hit me like a ton of bricks, for me to advance in this organization, I'm gonna have to be behave like that.
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I don't I don't think I want to do that.
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I don't think I want to do that.
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So the role being stripped, so that was in February, fast forward to like June, July, August, some time in the summer, my role was stripped, and it was hard to go home, share that with my family.
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It was hard to figure what the fuck I was going to do afterwards, because it came out as a shock.
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And um, but once, probably maybe six, eight months afterwards, and I felt safe again, right?
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Because when when things happen like that, we feel we're fearful, right?
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When I felt safe again, I was grateful for the gift.
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I had already started to think, hmm, something wicked this way comes.
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I'm not gonna do that in order to get ahead.
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So what am I gonna do?
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The universe, God universe source, made the decision for me, gave me the direction for me.
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Because, you know, golden handcuffs.
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Um, yeah, just interesting.
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This excavation process helped me articulate not only that role being stripped, but also that foresight of wow, that's not what I'm gonna do.
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Uh tear somebody down behind closed doors, and then when they walk up to me, like be fake and not even share if it's a performance issue.
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I knew that.
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This excavation process helped me articulate it.
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But the excavation process also helped me identify what I will not and what I will not tolerate.
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It also helped me identify the standards into which I'm gonna hold myself accountable.
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It also helped me identify here's the choices that I'm gonna make around how to be the best leader and what you can expect of me.
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From that moment on, I never ever had.
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I never questioned my leadership, nor did I have anybody question my leadership because I was clear on it, I was anchored in who I was, but I had to go through that valley in order to get there, and it took a long time.
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I simply want to leave you guys with this.
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Like I started this podcast.
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Who would you be if the role was stripped away?
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If you're a doctor and your role was stripped away, who would you be?
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Would you be the philanthropist?
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Would you be the volunteer?
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Would you be the the person?
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At church that helps with the pews.
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Who else would you be?
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Because our work takes up so much of our fucking identities that we have lost ourselves.
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Many of us.
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I would say Gen X, yes, because that's the boomer, right?
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The boomer kind of thing.
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This is how we we're in their shadow.
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Millennials are in our Gen X shadow, right?
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They have a little bit of that sh that energy thinking conditioning.
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I would say the Gen Z are the ones that have the most freshest mindset.
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Now, granted, they drive us crazy.
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I have a Gen Z for a daughter.
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I can say it out loud.
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There are times when that girl drives me crazy.
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However, she is really fucking grounded in who she is, how she's choosing to show up, and what she will and will not tolerate.
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More so at 23 than I was at 35.
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I just find that absolutely interesting.
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We could probably learn a lot from them.
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It'll drive us crazy.
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But we might be able to learn a couple things.
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So I leave you with that.
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Who would you be if you didn't have the role?
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If it was stripped away from you, repurposed?
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What would you do?
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Not what's your backup plan?
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Not what's your backup plan?
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Although backup plans are very necessary.
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Kid you not.
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But what inside?
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You're gonna take the hit?
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How hard is the hit going to take you out?
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It'll take you out, but for how long?
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Have you and and some of you may remember this?
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When I was growing up, there was something called Bozo the Clown.
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And um there was this toy that you could buy that was a blow-up Bozo the Clown, and it was kind of like um almost, it was round on the bottom, and it was probably about four feet tall, and it was round on top, and it was like a punching bag for kids to wear them out.
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Well, at least that's what my mom loved it for.
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Um, but Bozo the clown, um, and I'm making this connection, I can't remember the author, so it's not my original thought, but I I remember when I read it, I'm like, oh my god, that is so cool to think of it that way.
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Resilience.
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We have through our life and through our journey, we will have those moments where we're not down.
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How long we stay down is a test of our resilience.
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So if you get back up really fast, like this bozo the clown guy, if you punched him down, he came up really fast.
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Now, if he was low on air, he'd go down and uh right, he he he would have a hard time coming back up.
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So when you get punched really hard, you're gonna go down.
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There's no doubt about that.
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Hashtag human, we go down.
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Question is how long?
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What's left?
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Keep going back to that what's left after the role has been stripped, and you have to, as the adult, as the all the other roles you have, especially the forever roles of mom, wife, right, sister, those are the ones that are so linked.
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You have to honor and show up for them.
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How quickly can you do that?
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How quickly can you respond?
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How quickly can you build your resistance to bounce back and move forward?
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As humans, we are meant for more than just our jobs.
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We're meant for more than just our title.
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And I truly believe each and every one of us was put on this earth for a purpose.
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Find your purpose.
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Maybe that's the lesson.
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I know it was for me.
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Took me years to get there.
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Took my daughter being taken out for a bone marrow transplant for me to stop avoiding and get in the work of living it to my true purpose.
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These identity shifts are again going back to the hardest times of our lives.
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Devastating.
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And yet, opportunities, opportunities to build resilience, opportunity to demonstrate resilience for your family, and opportunities to lean into.
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Okay, maybe I need to shift gears.
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Maybe I meant to do something different.
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Maybe what is it again?
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Going back to getting quiet in this fucking distracting, distracting and noisy world.
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What are you telling me?
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What I could be doing that I'm ignoring.
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What am I here to do that I keep ignoring?
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You're giving me a sign, you're giving me an opportunity, although it feels not like an opportunity.
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It feels everything other than that, but it's an opportunity.
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I can only see this from live experience.
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I'm not blowing smoke up your skirt.
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This is lived experience.
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And I'm also watching a dear friend go through it.
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He popped back with resilience, and he keeps taking the hits because of the identity of having to have that role.
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Role's not.
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The role is never the point.
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Role's never the point.
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It's the human underneath it.
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That is the point.
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Okay, enough.
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That's a wrap.
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I can keep talking about this shit all night.
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And I say shit like loosely.
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I I love this work.
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I love it.
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I'm passionate about it, as you can tell.
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I hope you can tell.
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And um, I hope I left you with something to think about.
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Yeah.
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Let me know.
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You can send me a comment, send me a DM, you can find me on LinkedIn.
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I'd love to have a conversation if you want to have a conversation.
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Let's do it.
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Alright, guys.
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That's it for now.
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Have a great night, great day, wherever you're at, listening to this in the world.
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And I'll catch you on the next one.
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We are met for more than just our title.
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We're meant for more than just our title.
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I truly believe that each and every one of us was put on this earth for a purpose.
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Welcome to the Stop Performing Life podcast.
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I am Melissa Tennessee, and this is the human connection movement.
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Each week, my guess and I will explore what it means to stop performing.
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Reconnect to what matters most.
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Create a life that feels deeply aligned with who you are.
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You did not press play by accident.
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Maybe this is the pause you've been waiting for.
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Let's begin.
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Um, listen, I have a question.
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What happens when the role is stripped away?
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The title.
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When your role is eliminated, or you got fired, or it was a situation where your role is repurposed.
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What happened?
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What was left?
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I have a partner, really a friend, who went through some really interesting transitions, I would say, in December.
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Um, his leader basically came in and said, now mind you, this is after a year and a half working with him.
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Uh, you know, this is just not working.
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Okay, don't make me unpack that.
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That's that's like so many issues with that to begin with.
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Okay, so move on.
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Back to my friend.
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His role was stripped away.
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No warning.
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Now, some of you listening to this, you know exactly what that feels like.
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The, oh my god, what the fuck are you mean?
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I don't have this job anymore.
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What do you mean?
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You go home.
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I don't have my job.
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I'm no longer this leader, this executive, this manager, director, whatever your title is, I'm no longer that.
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How as humans do we function and live through these identity changes?
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Well, honestly, some seek professional help, and totally, yes, please.
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That's not my job.
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I can't do that.
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I mean, I could, but it'd probably be dangerous for us both.
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Saying that out.
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But how do you help a friend who's going through this identity crisis when one big part of his identity was stripped away?
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It's like um I was watching The Resident a couple weeks ago, and there's a character on there, they call him Hawkins.
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I couldn't even tell you what his first name is, Hawkett.
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Um, and he is basically fired from the hospital, and he is going through the whole, well, if I can't be a doctor, I don't want to be anything.
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I if I can't be somebody in service of in this way practicing medicine, why am I here?
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I don't I don't know how I fill that void.
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That void that we feel.
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My friend's still struggling to figure that out.
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And that is something that you can't tell somebody.
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It you can't um coach them enough, you can't, you can only support them.
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Support them through the journey.
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Let them know, hey, I'm here if you need me.
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I am here if you want to re-rehearse for that interview.
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I'm here if you just want to go and have some coffee and talk about anything but being on LinkedIn for hours and trying to find a job.
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And oh, by the way, not getting anywhere.
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He feels like he's on that hamster wheel of, I would say almost a hamster wheel of doom.
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Like, what am I gonna do?
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Almost to the point of desperation.
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That void, that identity shift is costing him big time.
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It's unfortunate, it's costing him his peace.
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His peace.
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There's fear there, rightfully so.
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There is no judgment here, please.
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Because I've been there once.
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Believe me, I have had that situation happen to me.
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And it wasn't fun.
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It wasn't fun coming home and telling my husband and daughter I no longer had this job.
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It was a crushing blow.
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But thank God I had support around me, great connections and relationships, I was able to work through it pretty quickly and gain some confidence again.
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Because when that role is stripped, that role where God, you've put your your a lot into it.
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I mean, gosh, you put so much effort, so much presence, so much work, and it's no longer there.
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It just literally disappears.
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What are you left?
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It is not easy.
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Life is not easy.
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I am learning the older I get, the better and different.
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That the challenges are a misperception.
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They're actually opportunities.
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It doesn't feel like that in the moment, though.
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It did at high it does in hindsight feel like opportunities because I think about if that didn't happen to me, I don't know, 14-15 years ago, I wouldn't be right here.
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I wouldn't be sharing and and um talking on this stop performing life podcast.
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Your identity, and I'm sorry, I'm switching gears again real quick, is your identity being anchored in a role, and that role going away.
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Yes, you grieve, and you're left with a hollowness, you're left with some fear, you're left with some self-doubt, you're crushed.
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And sometimes it's really difficult for people to get out of that.
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They stay stuck.
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Some couple months, some a year, some years.
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They stay stuck.
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They get into that little or let that little voice in their head, the the ego, that nasty voice, not enough, not enough of something.
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That little ego just grabs popcorn and a beer, and he just, I don't know, sets up camp in your brain and just talks to you all day about all of the things that you are deficient in.
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Who's experienced that?
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Everyone.
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Because it is the human condition.
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It's called the ego.
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Yes.
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My little saboteur, his name is Klaus.
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It used to be Claude.
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Now it's Klaus.
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He has evolved to a more evolved name.
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Claude was one that was a little superficial.
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Klaus is the one that is very deep.
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And they're both this.
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I mean, it's the same persona.
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Um, I just gave him a different name when I learned more about how he it is a male.
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Um, he looks like Rembrandt's younger brother.
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Um, Rembrandt has a self-portrait that he did, and it's him in a beret.
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He has a really scrawny like mustache, and his hair's all wiry, and he has his maroon overcoat on.
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His brother looks just like him.
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Um, and I named him Claude.
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This was a couple years ago when I, you know, was learning about ego and how the saboteur shows up and how they're there to keep us safe.
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That's 200 million-year-old brain is there to keep us safe.
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And it keeps us playing small, right?
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So that's a whole nun podcast.
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Going back to the friend, and and and when our identity is ripped away from us, when the role is whipped away from us, what are we left with?
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The fucking ego, the saboteur, the claw that's in in in the corner of my brain, literally shoving popcorn in his mouth, drinking a fucking beer.
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And it's really hard when you're feeling it in your heart, the grief, the loss, and you have this guy in your head talking you through a bunch of stuff, whether it's deflecting, or whatever it is, right?
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Or it's pointed at you.
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It's hard to come out of that.
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The roles we play, which ones are the most important?
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When which ones are the forever roles?
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What are the forever roles?
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What are the temporary roles?
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The forever roles require no performance.
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No performance.
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Those would be the mom, the spouse, the sister.
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Some would argue spouse does require some performance.
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Mine doesn't.
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I believe when you meet your soulmate, it's your soulmate.
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They accept you unconditionally to who you are.
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You don't have to hide anything, you don't have to be somebody different than who you truly are with your spouse.
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And I'm hoping every one of you have something like that in your life.
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Husband, wife, significant other, somebody in your life.
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But the performing roles, the ones that usually come with a title.
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A title.
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That's your role.
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That's your title.
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So when that title's gone, what are you left with?
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There is one forever role that we always forget.
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It is the last thing we think about the relationship with our own selves.
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Getting really deep and understanding what I am good at, what am I not good at?
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What will I tolerate?
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What will I not tolerate?
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And what are my own expectations of myself and how I lead, how I show up, and how I navigate this world.
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Those answers to those kinds of questions I did not have answered until probably maybe about six or seven years ago at this point.
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When I went through a journey of an excavation process of here's your life's journey.
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Your life's story is your leadership journey, and your leadership journey is your life story.
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And I learned that from Doug Conant, who wrote the blueprint.
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And when I went through one of his courses, we went through this whole process of excavating the peaks and valleys of our life.
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And during the peaks and the valleys, what we're learning.
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When I think about the valleys, which we all remember the valleys so much more than we remember the peaks.
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We remember the really big peaks.
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Getting married, having a baby, um, saying I love you to your soulmate for the first time.
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Those are the things we remember.
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But the other peaks, uh, how when you felt the proudest at work because you delivered a project and how that made you feel and how that made you feel okay, yeah.
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Those are the ones we fit forget really quick.
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Why?
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Because of how fast the world is moving, yes, and how distracted we are.
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And then also, you know, little clot in our head, right?
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Our little ego doing the talk, keeping us distracted, but we absolutely remember the valleys quicker, faster, because they hurt the most.
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Who's with me?
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Yes, because they hurt the most.
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This excavation process held me understand when my identity was ripped away from me, I don't know, 14 years ago, I'm not very good with the dates.
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If you were to ask me, yes, I've been married with my husband since 1998.
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And for me to do the math, like, how many years have you been married?
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Hell, I don't know, long time.
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I don't do the math.
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No.
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So when I say these years, it's it was a while ago.
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So when I was stripped of that role a couple years ago, well, no, a while ago, um, I was left with absolutely this hole.
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And during this excavation process, why?
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But what I found really interesting, everything happens for a reason.
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Um, I'm just side note, I'm a certified Gallup Strengths coach, and I have my number one strength is connectedness.
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There are no coincidences, everything is connected to a higher power, which you hear me say all the time.
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And um, everything happens for a reason.
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At that time, I found this really interesting how I was doing this conference for this organization, and um it was February of that year, I can remember that, and um I delivered that conference.
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It was awesome.
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It was awesome.
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That immersive experience that I loved to do.
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After the conference, I walked behind the screens and I see the president with her COO talking.
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Well, I couldn't move because I needed to be where I needed to be to help the production company and stuff.
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And I was listening to these women rip apart somebody that was not present.
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Oh, by the way, wasn't present.
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But yet turn the corner with that individual coming up to them, complete mass, different face, completely fake.
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Just it nauseated me.
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And I thought to myself, and it hit me like a ton of bricks, for me to advance in this organization, I'm gonna have to be behave like that.
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I don't I don't think I want to do that.
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I don't think I want to do that.
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So the role being stripped, so that was in February, fast forward to like June, July, August, some time in the summer, my role was stripped, and it was hard to go home, share that with my family.
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It was hard to figure what the fuck I was going to do afterwards, because it came out as a shock.
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And um, but once, probably maybe six, eight months afterwards, and I felt safe again, right?
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Because when when things happen like that, we feel we're fearful, right?
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When I felt safe again, I was grateful for the gift.
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I had already started to think, hmm, something wicked this way comes.
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I'm not gonna do that in order to get ahead.
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So what am I gonna do?
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The universe, God universe source, made the decision for me, gave me the direction for me.
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Because, you know, golden handcuffs.
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Um, yeah, just interesting.
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This excavation process helped me articulate not only that role being stripped, but also that foresight of wow, that's not what I'm gonna do.
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Uh tear somebody down behind closed doors, and then when they walk up to me, like be fake and not even share if it's a performance issue.
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I knew that.
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This excavation process helped me articulate it.
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But the excavation process also helped me identify what I will not and what I will not tolerate.
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It also helped me identify the standards into which I'm gonna hold myself accountable.
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It also helped me identify here's the choices that I'm gonna make around how to be the best leader and what you can expect of me.
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From that moment on, I never ever had.
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I never questioned my leadership, nor did I have anybody question my leadership because I was clear on it, I was anchored in who I was, but I had to go through that valley in order to get there, and it took a long time.
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I simply want to leave you guys with this.
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Like I started this podcast.
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Who would you be if the role was stripped away?
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If you're a doctor and your role was stripped away, who would you be?
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Would you be the philanthropist?
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Would you be the volunteer?
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Would you be the the person?
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At church that helps with the pews.
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Who else would you be?
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Because our work takes up so much of our fucking identities that we have lost ourselves.
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Many of us.
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I would say Gen X, yes, because that's the boomer, right?
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The boomer kind of thing.
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This is how we we're in their shadow.
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Millennials are in our Gen X shadow, right?
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They have a little bit of that sh that energy thinking conditioning.
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I would say the Gen Z are the ones that have the most freshest mindset.
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Now, granted, they drive us crazy.
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I have a Gen Z for a daughter.
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I can say it out loud.
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There are times when that girl drives me crazy.
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However, she is really fucking grounded in who she is, how she's choosing to show up, and what she will and will not tolerate.
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More so at 23 than I was at 35.
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I just find that absolutely interesting.
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We could probably learn a lot from them.
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It'll drive us crazy.
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But we might be able to learn a couple things.
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So I leave you with that.
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Who would you be if you didn't have the role?
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If it was stripped away from you, repurposed?
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What would you do?
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Not what's your backup plan?
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Not what's your backup plan?
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Although backup plans are very necessary.
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Kid you not.
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But what inside?
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You're gonna take the hit?
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How hard is the hit going to take you out?
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It'll take you out, but for how long?
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Have you and and some of you may remember this?
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When I was growing up, there was something called Bozo the Clown.
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And um there was this toy that you could buy that was a blow-up Bozo the Clown, and it was kind of like um almost, it was round on the bottom, and it was probably about four feet tall, and it was round on top, and it was like a punching bag for kids to wear them out.
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Well, at least that's what my mom loved it for.
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Um, but Bozo the clown, um, and I'm making this connection, I can't remember the author, so it's not my original thought, but I I remember when I read it, I'm like, oh my god, that is so cool to think of it that way.
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Resilience.
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We have through our life and through our journey, we will have those moments where we're not down.
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How long we stay down is a test of our resilience.
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So if you get back up really fast, like this bozo the clown guy, if you punched him down, he came up really fast.
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Now, if he was low on air, he'd go down and uh right, he he he would have a hard time coming back up.
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So when you get punched really hard, you're gonna go down.
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There's no doubt about that.
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Hashtag human, we go down.
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Question is how long?
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What's left?
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Keep going back to that what's left after the role has been stripped, and you have to, as the adult, as the all the other roles you have, especially the forever roles of mom, wife, right, sister, those are the ones that are so linked.
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You have to honor and show up for them.
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How quickly can you do that?
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How quickly can you respond?
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How quickly can you build your resistance to bounce back and move forward?
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As humans, we are meant for more than just our jobs.
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We're meant for more than just our title.
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And I truly believe each and every one of us was put on this earth for a purpose.
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Find your purpose.
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Maybe that's the lesson.
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I know it was for me.
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Took me years to get there.
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Took my daughter being taken out for a bone marrow transplant for me to stop avoiding and get in the work of living it to my true purpose.
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These identity shifts are again going back to the hardest times of our lives.
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Devastating.
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And yet, opportunities, opportunities to build resilience, opportunity to demonstrate resilience for your family, and opportunities to lean into.
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Okay, maybe I need to shift gears.
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Maybe I meant to do something different.
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Maybe what is it again?
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Going back to getting quiet in this fucking distracting, distracting and noisy world.
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What are you telling me?
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What I could be doing that I'm ignoring.
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What am I here to do that I keep ignoring?
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You're giving me a sign, you're giving me an opportunity, although it feels not like an opportunity.
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It feels everything other than that, but it's an opportunity.
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I can only see this from live experience.
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I'm not blowing smoke up your skirt.
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This is lived experience.
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And I'm also watching a dear friend go through it.
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He popped back with resilience, and he keeps taking the hits because of the identity of having to have that role.
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Role's not.
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The role is never the point.
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Role's never the point.
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It's the human underneath it.
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That is the point.
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Okay, enough.
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That's a wrap.
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I can keep talking about this shit all night.
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And I say shit like loosely.
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I I love this work.
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I love it.
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I'm passionate about it, as you can tell.
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I hope you can tell.
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And um, I hope I left you with something to think about.
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Yeah.
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Let me know.
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You can send me a comment, send me a DM, you can find me on LinkedIn.
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I'd love to have a conversation if you want to have a conversation.
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Let's do it.
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Alright, guys.
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That's it for now.
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Have a great night, great day, wherever you're at, listening to this in the world.
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And I'll catch you on the next one.