From ABC Soap Operas to Nashville: Woody Bradshaw’s Second Act

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Hello, everybody.
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It is Skip Clark, and I am the host of Skip Hoppins.
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It's good to see you.
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Thanks for hanging out.
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I got a great guest tonight.
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I am so excited about talking to this guy.
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He's been an actor, he's a singer, he's uh been on the West Coast, East Coast, now he's in Nashville.
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Uh, Woody, before we even get into the music, your story, as I mentioned, has a little bit of everything in it.
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Uh, acting, New York, Hollywood.
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I love that.
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Nashville, record deals, radio.
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I want to find out about that.
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Songwriting, some big highs, had some detours, and now uh now a song that you believe is bigger than you as an artist.
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And I I would agree, it's pretty good.
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I've been listening to it.
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I've got a lot I want to unpack with you today.
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Welcome to the Skip Happens podcast.
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Everybody say hello to my new friend Woody Bradshaw.
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Woody, how are you?
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Hey, how are you, Skip?
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Good to be here.
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Yeah, it's good to see you.
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Thanks for having me.
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Well, you just told my whole story, so I figured we could say goodbye now.
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Okay, good morning, everybody.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Exactly.
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Uh, but you know what?
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Uh let's start before Nashville, uh, before LA, uh, before any of it, who was Woody Bradshaw growing up?
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Who were you?
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Well, it's it's a good question.
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I was uh I came from a um, I'm from Mississippi.
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I was born there, and luckily my parents, who are both from a little town called Loosdale, they pulled me out of Mississippi after my first year, which I'm forever grateful.
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As much as I love Mississippi, it was always great to go back to.
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But uh, we moved to Pensacola, Florida when I was a little kid, and my dad just kept getting promoted.
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So we ended up, I moved to Lancaster, Pennsylvania when I was seven.
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Oh wow.
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So I was a Yankee, which I didn't know what that meant, but you're gonna be a Yankee, and so we moved there for eight years, and I got to do all kinds of you know, all the fun stuff in the in the winter.
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So I loved that, and then we moved back to Pensacola because my dad kept getting promoted, and uh, I was a little jock, you know, when I was young.
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I was a football player, played basketball, yeah.
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And um, and so I was all and my brother was the Elton John.
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I had no no one had any indication that I was gonna be musical.
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Oh wow, because he was seven years older than me, and uh and he I just I would stand by him and sing with him, but he was this monster on the piano, just uh oh that's cool, yeah.
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That's really cool.
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So he turned me on to music, you know, singer-songwriters of the day, and then my mom was an English lit teacher growing up and drama, so that's kind of where that first direction I took was drama, but anyway, she would teach her students um through music.
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She would take albums to school and you know, use the literature and the and the actual songs to teach them.
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So I was kind of brought up with all that, and uh, so this music was living in me and no one really knew it.
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You know, it was just because I was a little twerp that liked to play football, and my brother just wanted to get rid of me, but uh so all that was kind of hiding underneath the whole time.
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I gotcha.
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So that was my that was my early years.
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Then we moved back to to Florida, and I thought I was gonna be the quarterback.
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You know, I thought I'd just carry on that when I went down.
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But they already had a Woody Bradshaw down there.
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That was that sounds that sounds like a football name.
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It does, you know, Woody Bradshaw.
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You gotta love that.
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I love that name.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, and I they kind of rejected me.
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They didn't even let me pass the ball when I tried out, so I quit.
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My mom begged me, she said, Woody, don't quit.
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It's uh, you know, it'll set a bad precedent in your life.
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And I was like, forget it, mom, I'm quitting.
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And so I let a year go by, and plus I was a freshman, so the girls weren't interested in me either.
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They were always going for the older guys.
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So I wasn't used to any of this.
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And then by um junior year, I found I thought I'll try out for the tennis team.
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And uh so I did, and they only needed six to play, and but they needed eight on the team, so I made it by the just by default, I was number eight.
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Oh wow, yeah, and so I didn't see any action, and then then that that summer after, my best friend he was number one, and so we played every day over the summer.
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So the next year I was number two.
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And oh wow, yeah, and and wait a minute, who was this with?
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Who is it with?
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No, you said Tennessee, right?
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Or no, no, tennis.
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Tennis, I gotcha.
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No, I'm sorry.
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No, I've got tennis.
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I'm getting old and I can't hear very well.
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That's the problem.
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I'm sorry, I gotcha.
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All right, so tennis.
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All right.
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I tried out for tennis and didn't, like I said, didn't even play one match.
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Then over the summer, me and my best friend, who was number one, we played all summer.
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The next year I was number two.
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So I was just waiting to find the sport, right?
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And I got really mad at my dad.
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I was like, why didn't you put a racket in my hand when I was a kid?
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And so anyway, and and so I ended up getting a scholarship uh from the tennis, which was kind of you know, I was so new at it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But um, but anyway, so then I went to college on a on a tennis scholarship, and then that's kind of where theater, I found theater then.
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We didn't have anything like that in high school.
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Oh, I gotcha, I got you.
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What did um you said your dad kept getting promoted?
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What did he do?
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Yeah, my dad, he was uh he was a monster.
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He was uh in a good way.
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In a good way, he was a he he was started as a chemist in Pensacola, and you know, he's one of these, you know, he came from kind of the opposite side of the tracks and and didn't have a lot of money growing up, and then he got a scholarship in football and got the GI Bill and went to the army and all that.
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And oh wow, uh they found out how brilliant he was, and so with all these tests, and so he became a chemist, and then usually when you start out as a chemist, you retire one, and uh he was one of these just a born leader, 6'4.
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I'm I'm 5'10, so I don't know what happened, but very domineering John Wayne kind of guy.
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I love that.
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He uh he just kept solving problems that weren't supposed to be solved, and then he was more of a leader, and so he just kept getting promoted.
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He ended up being the president of Armstrong internationally.
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No kidding, wowing in a yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Wow, and so he had a great career.
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He ended up winning the Malcolm Baldridge Award, which would be like me winning the Grammy, you know.
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Yes, no, absolutely.
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Wow.
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He was honored by Clinton at the White House.
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He he gave and uh he was there for two and a half hours and he came back.
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He said, he said, damn it, I really like that guy.
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He said, I wish we were a Republican, but some of the bitches charming.
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Well, hey, you know, I don't know what to tell you, but uh that that's quite the honor, and that is that is really cool.
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And uh, you know, was uh performing obviously that was already somewhere inside you, but uh or did you do no?
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That was inside you.
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That's where you went to college, and the performing bug was like there for you, correct?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I went to theater, like I said, and then I yeah, yeah, and I was raised, you know, in films.
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I I watched films with my mom.
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She took me to stuff that I was probably too young for, but I got it.
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You know, I was one of these deep kids, you know, and even the music side, like I could listen to I remember our friends came in about I think it was MacArthur Park.
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It was one Jimmy Webb, they brought this that up.
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Oh my god, with Jimmy Webb?
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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He's one of the heroes, he's one of my somebody's heroes.
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Absolutely.
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And they were like, I don't get the green icing in the rain.
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I was like, Don't you get it?
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It's the love you'll never have.
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I'm like a little eight-year-old, you know.
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You know, you're eight years old, and you're saying that, you know, and somebody left the cake out in the rain.
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And yeah, yeah, but you get it.
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I got all that stuff early on.
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So so yeah, this I had this depth, and I it as far as feelings and all that kind of stuff, and and acting was a natural kind of pursuit.
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And then I I went to Florida State after that, after the small school, did not make a team there.
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I tried out and got got whooped, but that's where I I ended up going to the theater.
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The theater side of things, sure, sure.
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I was gonna I was gonna minor in it and and major in communications, but when I walked over to the theater building, I just had this feeling like this is it.
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And then I had a lot of um mentors, like the you know, the professors there saw it in me too.
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And so, you know, I just kind of flourished immediately in that kind of thing.
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But then you headed to New York shortly thereafter, right?
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Did I read that right?
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I was I was you know trying to do a little homework because I knew I was gonna be talking to you.
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And it said something about you going to New York and uh you landed some work on an ABC daytime drama.
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Can you take uh take me back to that Woody Bradshaw back then?
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And what did you think your life was gonna look like?
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Well, that's that's funny because yeah, when I went to FSU, I thought, you know, I'll I'll get to really dive in and get known there.
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And and I just made the BFA, which was a huge deal to make that.
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It's kind of the upper echelon in Florida State, and they put a lot of money.
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That's kind of like the Yale of the South.
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And uh, so I just made that.
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And on spring break, I was going to New York to visit.
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Um, and my parents had these friends that live there and they knew everybody, they knew all the big like Woody Allen and oh, how cool.
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This big this big manager, and so they got an introduction to this manager who he handled um Tennessee Williams.
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That was his claim to fame, and then he he um he managed Pacino and Raquel Welch.
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But he took time to meet me and he did the whole when I walked in, like the he got it, you know.
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Yeah, no, exactly.
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Wow.
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And and he he dissuaded me from going back to school.
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He said, I said, well, when I finish college, I'm gonna come back up here, and then I'd I'd love to be.
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He said he'd represent me even.
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And uh, but he said, You he said, Well, Woody, if you want to get a degree and teach acting, then go ahead and finish at Florida State.
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If you want to study with the best teachers in the world, you need to come here now.
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And so I it was no, it was a no-brainer.
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So come here.
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Didn't fight me that much.
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They they believed in me.
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And uh and he didn't really do that much when I went to New York.
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Um he kind of, you know, he kind of sat on his hands, you know.
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It was one of those promises, and and so I just did stuff on my own.
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I I I knew I needed a headshot, and I had a little tiny, tiny little resume, and I knew where the soap operas were.
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And I but you got the gigs, you got the gigs.
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That's pretty cool.
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And I didn't, you know, and I really never wanted to do soaps because I I thought they were smaller somehow.
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And but that's where I knew to go, and you just handed your your headshot, you know, to uh a guard, and then I would call them all, you know, I just leave a message, and I would end it like I'm green, but I'm good.
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You know, that was kind of I thought I was being funny.
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You had but you had a lot of confidence in yourself.
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Now I think you've got to have that confidence.
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I mean, if you only have confidence, you're gonna get knocked down.
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You stood up, you said, Hey, I'm great, and rightfully so, I can do this.
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I'll tell you another weird thing that happened there that that made me so confident.
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Yeah, is I actually that that those friends that my parents do took me to church.
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It was Norman Vincent Peel.
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Remember him?
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Absolutely.
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Power positive thinking, and yeah, and I went to that church and I and I begrudgingly went.
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I really didn't grow up in that.
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My parents, I used to go to church at my grandparents, and I really loved it.
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But we just my dad didn't, he kind of had a thing about the church from something that happened to him, I think.
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But when I went finally went to this service, uh it blew me away because it was all the stuff I was feeling was about you know bravery, courage.
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And so when I moved there, I just became a member and read all his books.
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And so I was like a little like this.
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Um I liken it to being like a you know, some guy on a tribe in an island, and the Bible falls, and I just believed every word.
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So I just felt you know ordained to do great things, and and sure enough, I think that's a big reason why success came me quickly.
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What were um finally got one person called me back from those messages I left, and it was one person, yeah, one of them.
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And they go, Well, you look you look like the part, and we heard your voice on this machine, you sound right, so we want to audition you.
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And I didn't have an agent, she called me directly, it was the casting director, which is unheard of.
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And I didn't I did not get it.
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I got screen tested twice.
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They couldn't decide between me and this uh people, then two of us, and I had to go home for Thanksgiving and uh come back and then you know do the second audition.
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And anyway, I did not get that one either.
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They it was he was blonde, I was brunette, but they loved me in it.
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They said, We're gonna make a a tryst out of this.
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We're gonna have you against that guy and a love triangle kind of thing.
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Oh, geez.
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So two months later, they yeah, they they made a role for me, and then I got two national commercials.
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I think because I was so happy, you know.
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I just went into these commercials like couldn't care less.
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Right.
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It's attitude.
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I love that.
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Yeah, so you know, it it draws uh what is it?
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It's kind of karma, you know.
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Yeah, no, exactly, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um, you know, how difficult is it to actually make a living as an actor?
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Well, it's very I learned the hard way because I thought this is the beginning, you know, this is just how I saw it in my little mind.
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And and then I got a I did get a big another big manager from that.
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Um was that Jerry?
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And he Jerry, yeah, you did your homework.
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Uh yeah, I did my homework.
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That's awesome.
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I did.
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But tell us about Jerry and who he was uh associated with.
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Well, Jerry, he he discovered Tom Cruise.
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He's the one that went to a little high school production in New Jersey.
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That somebody told me.
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By the way, Tom Cruise was born here.
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We're in Syracuse.
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So this I mean Tom, I'm in I am in his old neighborhood.
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Yep.
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Wow, exactly.
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That's right.
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I knew he was from up there.
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Yep.
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He might have only been here like two days, but he's still from no, I don't know, but I know he was born in the queues.
00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:52.480
Yeah, so yeah.
00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.720
So uh anyway, and Jerry had heard about me through my this agent.
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Oh, the other thing is I got an agent right away just when I was getting screen tested.
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I was like, who's everybody kept saying there's this kid got screen tested?
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So I kind of had my pick of agents, and then this one, this the one I went with, she said, There's this manager, I've been holding you off from him because he'll steal you.
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And then she was starting her own child's management, and she said, I'm gonna let you go now so you can go.
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His name is Jerry Silverheart, and he he discovered Tom Cruise.
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And so I met Jerry and he was he was awesome, he was like an old Jewish mother type of guy, you know, oi ve, you know.
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And he was like, Oh yeah, the next Tommy.
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And uh, so anyway, it was it was cool.
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And I he pulled me from that soap, which I kind of regretted now because um that soap, it was tough, you know.
00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:56.240
That's that's tough work because it's the material is not as good, you know, it's written every day, and so that's where it's good chops for an actor just to make that come to life, you know.
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Would we have seen that soap?
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What was it?
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Yeah, it was called Loving at the time on ABC.
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It was before all my children.
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I gotcha, and um and then it turned into the city before it went off the air.
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I gotcha, I got you.
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And so anyway, but he saw, he said, I see you doing films, and I see you being really, you know, something.
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And that was what my dream was and what I saw.
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And so he took me to LA, and uh and right away I was kind of um lost.
00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:33.840
I I love New York that that energy to me, it was like being in a war every day, like life or death, right?
00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:40.000
Right in a good way, you know, and I'm gonna country nowadays we may think differently, but go ahead.
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Yeah.
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And but the energy is just so palpable, and and I just love that.
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And then in LA is the opposite, it's so spread out, and there are no smells, there's no like uh I don't know, it smells like fog and steel, and that's it, yeah.
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And yeah, and there's you know, just nothing to and you're on a five-lane highway, the 405, you know, sitting in traffic for god knows how long.
00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:06.880
I got friends out there, I hear about it all the time.
00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.759
So yeah, there's no it just doesn't feel it's just so spread out, it just doesn't feel like it ends.
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So you don't feel like you're in one city, it just feels so and I was pretty open about that.
00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:41.200
I I just wasn't crazy about it, you know, thinking I'm being honest, but other age agents they were like, he didn't seem very happy here, and so that's when I kind of started going inward, and um and I I kept thinking about my brother who was you know such an influence on me, and um and I just I just started writing poetry, you know, out of nowhere.
00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:51.119
I just kind of felt lost and this drive I had to do acting just kind of got um not sidetracked.
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I just kind of got I wanted to know who I was.
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I also had a lot of people very interested, and I mean I was offered a couple right away, and I turned them down like for in the name of being a new Christian, but really I think uh I was nervous, like I wasn't maybe ready, didn't know what to expect for a lead for a lead role.
00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:16.960
But I but the the the uh one movie was a Friday the 13th, part six.
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Oh wow, and so I just said it's not it's not I don't want to do those kind of movies, and then now of course I would take it in the heartbeat, you know.
00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:31.599
Yeah, but it's acting, so and if that's what you loved, regardless what the movie was, you would I I understand, yeah.
00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:35.920
Friday the 13th, part six, but still I was a still an acting role.
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I was a purist, you know.
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I would say to my dad, I'm like, Redford wouldn't do that.
00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.319
Totally, totally he was like the hell he would.
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He said he'd be pounding the paper, son.
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So I'm pretty sure he's right now.
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Yeah, probably.
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But you know what?
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You can't go back and change the past.
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That is all done, that is all over, forget about that.
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It's water over the dam.
00:18:55.440 --> 00:19:00.319
But now, you know, everything changed for you because you mentioned Jimmy Webb a few minutes ago.
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Um, the Jimmy Webb story that you have, I mean, I had a little homework here too.
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You'd be proud of me.
00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:08.799
I would have scored a day on this project here.
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Um, when it, you know, and I had a lex extra time to look up more about Woody Bradshaw.
00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:25.440
So, anyways, um, you know, the the Jimmy Webb story, which I love, uh sometimes the direction of our entire life changes because of one seemingly ordinary night.
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Now, if I correct me if I'm wrong, and uh is it the Roosevelt Hotel?
00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.279
Yeah, very good.
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And uh he performed there and you were there.
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Yeah, I you know, this is when I was writing this poetry, and and I was starting to, and I and I'd gotten, I didn't tell you this part, but a buddy of mine.
00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.720
Um, I used to do aerobics, I was an aerobic teachers in New York too.
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Okay, and I don't know how that happened, but I I was singing, you know, I would sing, and this one guy he was like, You're really good.
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He bought me a karaoke, he was a total New Yorker, and I took that to LA, and then my managers liked my singing too.
00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:04.880
He was he said, We gotta get you into the Broadway shows.
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And and but I again I was just new at that, and and and I I thought, if I sing, I have to write because I'm not a singer yet, right?
00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:24.559
So, and I love the idea of writing because it was like writing scripts, you know, it was like you're writing your own film, and if I get to sing in it, I'm the actor, so it was kind of like stone.
00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.400
That's a good way to put it, yeah.
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Yeah, I get it.
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Yeah, so so anyway, I was dabbling in the singing, and all of a sudden I heard that Jimmy Webb was gonna be at the Hollywood Roosevelt.
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And yeah, my mom raised me on all that Glenn Campbell, you know, great music of his.
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Oh my gosh, by the time I get to Phoenix, you know, hey, I'm just saying.
00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:49.519
Yeah, oh yeah, oh my the Wichita lineman.
00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.720
I I sing that one in in my one of my sets sometimes.
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Do you oh my god, I got I gotta make sure I catch one of your sets, though.
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I mean, when I hit Nashville, well, I'll have to uh reach out to you and go, dude, where are you playing?
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:06.160
I want to know, I want to be there because I would love to come by and say hello and and see and hear that because I love that music.
00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:07.440
I mean, that it's no secret.
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Anybody that knows me, I love that.
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But uh the whole Jimmy Webb thing, um, was it something that Jimmy said or something he played, or simply watching a songwriter communicate with a room that made you realize I'm chasing the wrong dream?
00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.400
That last one, yeah, chasing the wrong dream.
00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:25.200
Oh, yeah, okay.
00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:31.440
The watching him perform and yeah, yeah, yeah, he wasn't he's not a singer, he's not a very good singer at all.
00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:41.359
But him playing that piano and then the words coming out of his mouth, the feeling, the emotion, that emotion superseded uh his voice.
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:47.519
And and and I you get that at the blue bluebird here in Nashville, you know, you see the writers play.
00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:48.400
Yep, yep.
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And and there's so much more heart sometimes than you see in the artists that sing those songs, or when you hear them do it.
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So when I saw that, I just was like, I said, I can do that.
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.720
It was like it's like a two by four.
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You know, being hit with a two by four.
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I was like, Yeah, but dude, dude, here's what fantasy.
00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.319
Yeah, here's what fantasizes me.
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Uh, you had already invested years into becoming an actor, and now you're thinking about I'm gonna turn and go this way.
00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.799
I'm gonna kind of do something a little different.
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:27.599
After you, you know, I'm sure you're a great actor, you you've got all that, but now it's like, you know, I'm gonna do this.
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:31.039
Yeah, well, well, it wasn't like an about face, though.
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.920
I mean, I really loved acting at the same time.
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I was just kind of I I got into classes and I was like the, you know, like I don't know the star of the class, but I was like excelling in in classroom.
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I was really getting to be a good actor.
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But this was the first time going on auditions.
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I was kind of like, you know, it's kind of like this.
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Who are you to judge?
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You know, I don't know.
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I don't know what I was just young and cocky, but I got just kind of and they didn't seem to I don't it's I it was just me.
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:12.799
I was just young and I wanted to, you know, I this writing was something where I knew somebody could really see who I was instead of this thing, you know.
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:20.400
And um, and so I just always thought music and the the acting would come together, kind of like Christofferson.
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.319
You know, that's always been my dream.
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Now it would be like Tim McGraw.
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.599
Right, right, right.
00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:27.359
You know, the two marry.
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Right.
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So when I came to Nashville, I just I mean, we we hadn't gotten to this part yet, but that was always my intention was to you know marry the two.
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:38.160
It still is.
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Yeah.
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.599
Did anybody feel uh kind of tell you you were crazy?
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:50.000
Uh because you're in LA, you're what you're working, uh, you've got opportunities that are happening, and suddenly you're saying, uh, you know, I'm gonna go to Nas Vegas.
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:51.039
I'm gonna go to Nashville.
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:52.880
I'm gonna write country songs.
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.799
So uh somebody did anybody say that you were nuts, you're crazy.
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No, good.
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Well, it didn't happen that quickly after I saw Jimmy.
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.359
Well, it didn't, I just didn't decide that.
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:11.519
I that's when I started, you know, everything was like one little evolution after another, but they happened really quickly because I was a tennis pro.
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:19.279
We hadn't gotten into that, but I was a teaching pro in Manhattan Beach, and so that was kind of a drive for me.
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.000
And um like 20 minutes.
00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:32.079
And I remember one day at lunch, I went and got something at one of those little plazas, you know, and then when I came back to my car, there was uh one of those things you stick on your windshield that you can write notes.
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.319
Oh, yeah, yeah, a little post-it or whatever.
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:35.359
Yeah, okay, okay.
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.759
And anyway, and I picked it up and it worked.
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.680
I put it on my windshield and it stuck.
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:51.039
And so on my way home, I put a napkin on it, and I just came up with this melody and this music and this lyric came out of my mouth at the same time.
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:52.000
That's awesome.
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.839
And it was called, and I was homesick for the South, you know, from Pensacola, and it's a long day.
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:12.079
And I just started, I wrote this call song called uh My Dream Waits in Dixie, and it just started out like Southbound through Dixie at night, trying to beat the dawn's early light.
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.160
Time is still past.
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It's like it just came.
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:26.079
And uh, and then I I did that, and I had a friend in New York who was a writer that I met at that church, and he's like, Woody, that's a really good start.
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.880
He said, It needs a chorus because I had all these verses, I just kept singing that same part.
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:36.480
And he and so he said, I think you should fly back out here and I'll work with you.
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:37.519
I had two songs, I think.
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:47.279
Oh wow, okay, and uh, and he's just and he taught me about it once to release, you know, into a chorus, and I'd make him leave the room like I didn't want him any part of it.
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.480
You know, I was like, go away, I'll come back, you can check my work.
00:25:50.720 --> 00:26:09.839
And so I wrote these two songs and uh and then went back, and then I had by that time I had gone to this voice class, and that was the other thing I did at the same time, and I'd actually quit it before I started writing these songs because I again I didn't know what I was doing, and I just get mad at myself, and so I quit it.
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.880
But once I started writing these songs, I had this new confidence.
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:18.000
So I called that guy back, that teacher, and I said, I have these songs, and he heard them.
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.000
He goes, This is great.
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:36.160
He said, I have this this this protege from Germany just moved here going to our school, and he said he could do your demos, and so he was fantastic, and he made these new kind of young songs into these really pretty little gems.
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:45.599
You know, they're not round or anything, these songs, but they were a great start, and it was everybody was like, You've got it, you've got that gift to write.
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:53.119
And so when I moved to Nashville and I did say that, decide to do that, you know, I knew that I'd have to start over.
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.799
Like, like I couldn't hardly play play the guitar yet.
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:58.480
I wasn't a great singer.
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:04.400
I mean, I didn't know my voice, I had a natural ability, but I didn't know my voice, I was singing like other people.
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.480
Yeah, I am I I get that, and that's not unusual.
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.839
And uh what uh you know, you arrive in Nashville.
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.480
What was the reality compared with uh the Nashville you imagined?
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.759
Was there any issue there?
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.920
Or what were you thinking?
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.279
Yeah, yeah, there were there was somewhat.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:29.920
Like, I I really did think I was at night, like I've got it all, they're gonna want me.
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:35.920
Right, you know, and we all know that Nashville has probably broken as many dreams as it has made.
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.559
I mean, look at how many people go there and they think, all right, this is it, I'm gonna make it big.
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.319
Yeah, next thing you know, a couple years later, they're heading back home saying it didn't work.
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.720
Yeah, it's tough, it's a tough nut.
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:48.880
And you gotta know what you're doing.
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:54.880
So, and like I said, I had to learn guitar, and I thought, because as an actor, I was like seasoned.
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.839
I mean, I went to school, I was I got really honed in.
00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:58.400
Right.
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:06.000
And I had this new gift to write, and I knew that I was a singer too, but I just hadn't found that voice yet.
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:18.880
And then guitar, I mean, I literally knew chords, but I I was all downstruming, you know, I didn't know how to, you know, and so all that took a little time, and I decided not to do things, not to be so seen right away.
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.960
So I did stuff outside of town, like rounds, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:32.400
That way, and then I found a guitar player, you know, to when I didn't want to, as I was writing new songs to me, you know, I had songs or of tempo that I and I wanted to perform.
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.839
And I'm still like that.
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:35.359
I still don't, you know, just yeah.
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.160
Did you um some of the songs that you wrote, Woody?
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:48.160
Was there a moment when maybe another writer uh essentially tore one of your songs apart and you realized, okay, I've got some learning to do when it comes to songwriting?
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:49.920
Did that ever happen to you?
00:28:50.400 --> 00:29:00.079
Yeah, I mean, not not like not so many words, but like just going to writers' rounds, you know, you would see people that were more advanced, and my stuff was more.
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.000
I had this thing about my brother too.
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:03.359
I wanted to please him.
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:04.240
Oh, wow.
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:04.559
Okay.
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.519
And he was like uh, you know, a bet middler.
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:17.680
I mean, he liked female artists, you know, like really told stories, you know, and and so I had this real melancholy side to me that I was I was putting too much into.
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:24.960
And I really didn't have the guitar down, like my melodies when I was writing on guitar weren't as good as just my mind at that point.
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.079
So if I wrote them on guitar, they were longer.
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:29.839
And so I did get that.
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.039
Like that song seems a little long, you know.
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.960
And so I took those to heart.
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:46.640
And then I I started getting introduced around town, you know, to publishing houses, and they say, Well, we love what you're doing, we don't know what to do with it because it was very wasn't country, it was very Woody music.
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.359
It was like journal, like James Taylor, you know.
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.519
Yeah, but how long ago was that, Woody?
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.599
Because I think things have a long time ago.
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:54.480
Yeah, exactly.
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:55.200
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:56.400
This is the very beginning.
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.039
I'm sorry.
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.359
No, no, I I guess I get it.
00:29:59.440 --> 00:29:59.920
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:05.519
And because all this and I and they introduced me to their writers, and then I I said, okay, but I'm not country.
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.920
I was kind of defiant, like I'm not a country.
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:13.359
I thought I was gonna be a Richard Marks kind of star, Brian Adams in Noshville.
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:19.039
And so I started writing with these guys, and that was great, just a point of view difference.
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.160
And then uh, and they were writing toward my artistry, so it wasn't like we were writing for somebody else.
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:35.759
They they did see me as the artist, these these uh publishing houses, and so that really helped too, just learning to co-write, and then I saw a voice in there for country.
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:43.279
It's like, okay, I can make my own sound, and I because I don't I'm not necessarily the country 101 that you hear on radio all the time.
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:44.400
Right, no, exactly.
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:51.119
I get it, and so and then it just like and then I found a voice teacher who is kind of my Obi-Wan Kenobi.
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.319
He's since passed, but he was an opera teacher.
00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:03.359
That was a funny story because I got on the phone, somebody uh referred me to him, and he kind of auditioned me on the phone, although I thought I was auditioning him.
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.920
And I said, Listen, man, I don't don't turn me into a twanger.
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.079
And he just kind of laughed like, bless your heart.
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:23.279
He says, You have no idea what you're in for, but he really made me he made me find my signature sound, and yeah, it's kind of like a thumbprint, you know, it's a familiar sound, it's one of a kind.
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:33.920
Yeah, see, I'm glad you said that because if somebody's gonna be watching this or or they're listening to this podcast, they I mean, to hear somebody like you say that it just doesn't happen, it comes over time.
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:42.720
You have to work with somebody, they they bring it out, they're gonna bring whatever your sound is, they're gonna bring it out and make it unique, and you'll make it unique, right?
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.359
And that's one of the uh things you need to do.
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.119
Some some, I guess, are truly born if they start too.
00:31:49.359 --> 00:32:00.000
But mine worked out uh that it took some time, and I I waited till I really presented myself to Nashville, and then I got you know invited to the bluebird.
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.240
I probably played it five or six times on a speech.
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:03.119
That's so cool.
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.400
The bluebird is the best.
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:12.640
I mean, it's just you're so focused, and you can hear a pin drop and you listen to the words and the chords and and all that.
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:20.480
It's just nothing better than hanging out at the bluebird, and even getting that opportunity to play there when you sign up and they ask you to come in and play.
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:21.920
Yeah, uh, that's pretty cool.
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.599
Their menu even says shh, like it's like the church, you know.
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.640
Yes, no, exactly.
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.119
You better damn well leave your phone off.
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:46.400
So but yeah, so that was and so yeah, and then by that time I all of a sudden got, you know, it was all gelling, but the playing, the singing, the writing, and um, you know, my freshman album, The Last Thing You Do, I guess you saw that or heard it.
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.839
Yes, and that was uh that was a great example of the publishing houses supporting me.
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.799
They would pitch me songs, and then they had also write, I'd write with their writers.
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:05.839
And the one song that they pitched me um was The Last Thing You Do that I liked that that was not so country, country.
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:18.880
Something I thought I could write that, and I was surprised, like, because you know they have A-list drawer, they call it, for the A, the stars, and I was like, I don't know why this one wasn't picked, and um, because I would even play it out.
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:26.240
Oh, that was the thing, it was written in the third person, like oh okay, hung up the phone, and then she did this.
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:37.119
And so when I was trying to pick for my album of all these different songs that I wrote, and people were pitching, I almost passed on it because I was singing the third person.
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.119
I don't think it resonated with me.
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:46.160
My my manager goes, sing it in the first person, and then when I did that, it was just like a whole different, yeah.
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:47.279
Yeah, and I did that.
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:56.720
I think that's why it was passed on by a major star because the way the way it was written, it was written, and then we got permission to do it from the writers, yeah.
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:08.800
And uh, so I did not write that song, but uh, but that song did did really well by me, and I got a you know, a record deal from it, and um and you were one of the top 10 artists to watch at one time.
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.280
I know back in the day, I think it was Clear Channel.
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:16.400
I worked for Clear Channel for a whole lot of years, and uh yeah, well, you know, I did.
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:18.079
You know Tom English?
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:19.760
Very well, yes.
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.079
He's a dear friend of the family.
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.159
Matter of fact, his wife is her mother was that couple in New York City.
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:29.199
Wow, okay.
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.360
They're dear friends of the family, yeah.
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.199
Very, very cool, very cool.
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.480
Tom was really good advocate for me.
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:42.800
Yeah, and um, but yeah, I got got top 10 artists with Luke Bryan, and that was all cool.
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:44.400
Yeah, that is very cool.
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.639
And uh, and then what happened?
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:48.960
You know, what happened after all that?
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:53.599
Well, that was that's kind of it was a heartbreaking story because the song was killing it.
00:34:53.679 --> 00:35:02.480
I mean, I was beating all the big boys head to head on radio, and they would do I guess you know they all do those pie, like the three play four artists.
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:03.039
Yep, yeah.
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:04.719
It would win every time.
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:10.159
The only time I didn't win, I tied was with Tracy Lawrence on You Know Who Your Friends Are?
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:11.280
Yep, yeah, yeah.
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:12.480
What a great song.
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:13.679
Absolutely, absolutely.
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:24.880
We were doing our radio tour, we were in California waiting, we were going up the coast, and we were supposed to go to San Jose, and that clear channel just kept putting us off and putting us off.
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.360
We were gonna turn around after our visit right before that because we never heard from them.
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.840
So we were on our way to LA and we got a call from them.
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.599
They said, Listen, you need to come back up here.
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.440
We just put that up and it tied with Tracy Lawrence.
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.639
And then she said, I got there and she goes, Congratulations, how are you gonna keep this going?
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.639
And uh I said it's a great song, and what do you mean?
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.599
And I realized then about the business part, you know.
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:55.119
Uh yeah, they said, We'll play it, we'll put it in the rotation.
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.400
But if Kenny has a new hit, then you know, money can talk to the radio still.
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.639
Then uh it's gonna get knocked back.
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.119
So yeah, that's what happens exactly.
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.079
My label basically my label fell through.
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:13.840
They they ran out of money, and uh well, that seems to be the story quite often, more often than not.
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.000
Yeah, uh well that was heartbreaking.
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:17.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.360
It is, but look at I mean, you're happy, you're happy now.
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.440
Well, yeah, that was uh you that was what's that?
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:27.199
I said you've got a good team.
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:34.480
I mean, uh you know, I reach with grassroots, and of course, yeah, you know, as I mentioned before, we went out with the lights and the cameras.
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.280
Um, the fact that uh those are some of the greatest people uh that you could be working for.
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:49.039
Um, grassroots is and I I say this because I I interview a lot of their artists a lot because Nancy will reach out or Katie will reach out, or somebody will.
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:58.559
And um it's just there they are musicians, they are radio people, they know how to work both sides, and they they do it very, very well.
00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.599
Yeah, very well.
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.079
You know, they're a good team, and I'm with Dead Horse Branding, is we're working with them.
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.280
That's Tony Brown's.
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.239
Yes, yes, yes, you know, absolutely.
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.719
Anything to do with Tony Brown, I mean, come on.
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:12.960
Let's just be real about that as well.
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.760
Let's let's talk about the song that you have, Al.
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:17.280
Let's talk about that a little bit.
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:17.760
Wait a minute.
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.039
Let me if I can find it here.
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:19.440
Let's see.
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:20.239
I think this is it.
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:20.960
That's it.
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.280
I gotta play just a little bit over this.
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.920
Just a little bit, or I'll get yelled at by the internet gods.
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:41.039
I love this country, lately things have changed.
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:46.480
Donna the world's done in the state.
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.280
Still the greatest nation brightly on it.
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.360
We gotta fight the keyboard free.
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.000
I love that.
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:27.360
Dude, I love that.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:28.320
I love that.
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.800
Tell us a little bit about the song itself.
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:42.400
I mean, that that is something we all know what's going on in the world, and we all know that we're so divided here in the uh, you know, in the great United States of America for whatever reason, and I hate it because we're divided.
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.840
But uh it, you know, reality is I don't care what you believe in.
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.480
I'm sure people don't care what I believe in, but then again, some people do care, and that's that what causes is what causes a problem.
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.880
But uh, when we have a song like this, I think it's something like we can all go, yeah.
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.639
Yeah, yeah, that's what it's about.
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.000
Tell me about that a little bit.
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.519
I hope that's what people feel because that's what I I wanted to.
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:10.400
Um yeah, I had no intention of writing a patriotic America 250 song.
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.039
I should have thought about it, but I wasn't.
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:23.519
I was writing some other song, and and the whole story behind it, I was sitting on this couch on this song that is a beautiful chorus, but I had no idea what anything else was about yet.
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.199
So I was just stuck.
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.480
And you know, I do what everybody does now, is I got my phone and started scrolling.
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.679
And one of the first things I saw that just caught my eye was this baseball cap with America 250.
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.599
And you know, beat up denim.
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.440
And I'm not even a cap guy, I don't really use wear hats much.
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.519
You got the Keith Urban hairdo.
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:46.480
See, yeah.
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.280
I was like, I gotta, I thought I gotta have that hat.
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:55.679
And uh so anyway, I I thought I'm gonna go to the gym because I'm not getting anywhere with this other song.
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.599
And then all of a sudden, I think that just started ruminating, you know.
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:05.280
I and and I thought it's too bad you didn't write a damn song for America 250, Woody.
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:10.960
And because it was May when I wrote it, and you know, July was coming, July 4th.
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.920
And but I just thought, what if let's just try it?
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.519
I just had this burst of faith, kind of like when I was in New York City.
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:22.159
When I could do no wrong, I thought, just see what comes out.
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.199
And I just almost the chorus as you just heard it almost came out as is.
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.199
Yeah, I was like, who's pronounced from the USA?
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:33.599
It's pretty good.
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.960
With a CM hands, let's lift our praise.
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:41.760
And then I said something like I think the red, white, and blue line was different.
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.880
And then I just, yeah, but I was like, bleed red, white, and blue.
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.000
Do you bleed the same?
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.920
Yeah, anyway, and I forgot the other song.
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.400
I just went, you know, just right at it.
00:40:52.480 --> 00:41:04.079
Now it wrote itself basically in two or three days, but I took about a week, like really trying to because I really wanted it to be a uniting song, not a Toby Keith boot.
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:04.719
Right.
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.440
Now I hear you.
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.440
A boots, uh, yeah, kick it up your butt.
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:08.480
Boot up your ass.
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:09.679
Yeah, exactly.
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:17.920
And so like I I worked on like trying to find the right word for that that woke section, like a bunch of twisted people.
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.199
That's what I came up with.
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.119
Because I thought a farmer would say that.
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.719
And it's not a it's not like unhinged like a Trump would say.
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.199
I don't want to, you know, I just thought a farmer would say it because it just means I don't get what they're doing.
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.440
That's twisted right, right, right, right.
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.599
They are, it's just their minds are.
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.320
And so that took a while just to find one word, but I was so proud of this song.
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:39.039
I'm just like so.
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:40.239
And you should be.
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:49.679
I feel like it's was given to me, you know, it's so perfectly round, and I think it is, it's more than just a obligatory, patriotic song.
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:50.800
I think it's the next.
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.800
I think it's as good, in my opinion, as God bless the USA.
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.239
It's different, it's just the newer version.
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:56.960
It's different.
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.239
It's different, it's a newer version, just as good, if not better.
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:01.199
Well, thank you.
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:08.639
Yeah, so you seem to be uh Woody, you seem to be drawn towards songs that have some larger emotional purpose behind them.
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.599
Uh, I was reading about uh the song you wrote for the U.S.
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.880
Navy Blue Angels.
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.440
Uh, let's see, the blues are back in town.
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:22.000
Yeah, um, and uh from what I was reading as well, a lot of the pilots and their families they responded to that song.
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.159
Yeah, it was very that was cool.
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:29.760
Yeah, I had written a song about Pensacola, uh, it's called It's Good to Be Home.
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:36.800
And um and I was just thinking, yeah, what's the the next one would be great if I could write a blue angel song.
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.239
But they're if you've ever seen them perform, yeah.
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.159
I have it's breathtaking.
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:51.280
I mean, if your your audience hasn't seen them, it's one of the things you gotta try to do live because you can't really, it's over overwhelming sensation.
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:51.920
Exactly.
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:59.119
When I thought I was gonna write that, I thought, you know, this has got to be as big as they are, you know, this song, this anthem.
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.360
And all of a sudden, when I tried, when I started on it, I came up with the ending for the beginning at the very beginning.
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:10.559
It's like, and when I got that line, I was like, it it kind of wrote itself too.
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:17.039
You know, it was like the blues are back in town, you can feel the tension, you know.
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.840
Then all of a sudden I went into this verse, so it's very like you know, it's a builder upper.
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:36.559
And then the chorus kind of explodes, and uh, so yeah, I never thought it'd be one of these like writing songs like uh military or but I find myself well, I'm very patriotic, so I guess that's where it all comes from.
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:44.880
And then um, and then living down in Pensacola, seeing all that, it's it's yeah, you see, yeah, you must see that all year round down there.
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:45.679
You know what I mean?
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:46.400
It's just crazy.
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.280
Uh, true story, I almost went to work in Pensacola.
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:49.920
Oh, yeah.
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:55.920
The radio thing, but the problem was there's plenty of sunshine, but very little money, if you know what I mean.
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:02.159
They they offer to pay you in sunshine as opposed to, you know, but it's Sun is beautiful, but it doesn't pay the bills.
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:02.800
Yeah.
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.639
Plus, I have a um I have a child with disability abilities.
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:14.639
Um, my son is down syndrome, and from what I was reading, it wasn't one of the better places to bring a child up with disabilities.
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.360
So that's my wife and I, that's why we stayed here.
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.519
So that's well, it is it is beautiful down there, but it is beautiful.
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.360
And I almost went to work for cat country.
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.480
I don't know if you know the radio station.
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.000
I was gonna ask you who it was for.
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.119
That's yeah, that's kind of our big that's our big country station.
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.639
They've been always very supportive of me and they're great.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.559
Uh Brent Lane, you probably Yes.
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:35.760
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.400
Absolutely.
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.639
I um I see them quite often.
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.480
Uh the country radio seminar in Nashville will say hello.
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.239
And are you going this year?
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.360
I go every year.
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.360
I've done it for the last 25, 30 years.
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:48.960
Okay, well, I'll I'll see you this year.
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:49.440
How about that?
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:50.239
Yeah, you know what?
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:50.880
I would love that.
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.400
That's yeah, it'll be in March.
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:53.440
Yeah, exactly.
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.679
Tell me about uh in 2025.
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.800
I I found this too.
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.079
I uh look at if you don't believe I did my homework, I do my homework.
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:06.000
In 2025, you released your interpretation of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah.
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:06.559
Yeah.
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.639
And there's a story behind that song that's pretty extraordinary.
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.000
Can you tell us about that?
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:12.800
Yeah.
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.519
Uh well, there's this woman in Pensacola.
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.719
She was a neighbor of my mom's, her new house.
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:35.840
My dad had passed, and so we moved my mom, and she was the neighbor just for like a year, you know, and and um and she had uh they had moved her and her family, and she she called me one day and she said, My my girlfriend, you know, my friend, she has cancer.
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.559
And um and she said her favorite song is Hallelujah.
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:42.960
Would you be interested in singing that?
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.000
And she asked me that probably like 2022.
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:53.679
And I just kind of kept and I wasn't I didn't I knew the song, but I didn't I didn't care for I guess the ones I had heard, maybe.
00:45:53.920 --> 00:46:00.239
But it just I didn't resonate with it, and so I just kind of kept putting her off, but she would nudge me each year, you know.
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.119
Would you think about doing that?
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:17.199
And also didn't have time sometimes when she was asking, I was on other stuff, but and then finally I thought I I'm I'm gonna look at this song, I need to do this for her because she's really wanting this for her friend, and her friend's a survivor, you know.
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:26.719
And so once I looked into it and I I really just you know got the lyric in front of me, the actor in me started breaking that down because that's some powerful stuff.
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:36.719
So that um that song's got to be one of the most covered songs around, yeah.
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.599
You know, just anywhere and everywhere you go.
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:47.199
And since then, since since that I started listening to others uh versions that I did love, I was like, oh yeah, this is big.
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:59.199
But the just the interpretation of those lyrics or just the actor in me love that, and I thought I can make my own version of this, and with my just knowing what it means now to me.
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:05.519
And then, and by the way, that producer I told you about in in LA, you know, when I first started.
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.159
Yep.
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:22.159
Well, that that protege or that whoever that young jer German kid was, well, you just knew he was gonna be like the next um uh David Foster, okay, Quincy Jones, and of course, since then he's worked with both of them.
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.480
That's that's you know, projects.
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:35.599
Wow, he was he was that big then, and you know, and then you know, we lost touch for years, and then Facebook is one of those things, you know, it just you friend each other, then you follow.
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.119
And I thought, well, he's probably too big to do anything.
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:50.000
And I reached out to him when I did the Blue Angel song, I and uh, and then we talked, and it was like no time had passed, and we became like really good buddies, by the way, when I was in LA.
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.119
Very cool, and so it was one of those neat things way back, but you know, you just lose contact.
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.199
So when we got back together, you know, I thought he can really make this sucker huge.
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:16.559
And uh, so I went out there for that, and then I I finished an album the next year and went back out with him, and so he's been in my life since then, and now has since moved to Nashville, and so he's right in my backyard here.
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.760
And when I did hallelujah, we go over there and we'll pray.
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:26.239
He's a God thing is still there with me, and then and it should be absolutely way back then.
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.960
He, you know, I got him, we'd pray at lunch, and he says, What do you know ever since then?
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:41.360
I pray with my clients at lunch, so that's been a cool thing, and so now he's here, and and we we pray before our project, and then all of a sudden he says, You know what?
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:47.440
I'm hearing a baritone guitar, and so that's that opening you hear, is like that's the main instrument.
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.199
Oh wow, so yeah, now he's at my disposal.
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:56.400
I've got you know this great feature, and uh right in your own backyard, no less.
00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:03.519
Yeah, and we knocked that thing out and just so proud of it, and uh people seem to really love it, and some say it's their favorite.
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:07.920
So, you know, Woody, you've been in this business to see it completely change.
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:18.639
I mean, it's it's crazy, and the changes record labels don't operate the same way, radio has changed, streaming, it's changed everything.
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.960
Uh, social media, no less, that has changed everything as well.
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.800
Is it easier or harder to be an artist today because of all that?
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:43.360
Well, to me, it's easier because you know, even when I got here the first time, you know, I started a new career like you know, late pretty later in life, like in your late 20s to start is kind of uh unheard of.
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:51.360
And so, you know, then when I had my record deal back then, you didn't have Google as much, you know, telling right, right, right.
00:49:51.519 --> 00:50:02.800
So I just looked as I just looked younger than I was, but now it's like none of that matters anymore because you have social media, you know, you have viral, you have digital streaming.
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.679
Do you um do you do all your own social?
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.000
Yeah, I'm not very good at it.
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.800
That's why I'm looking, I'm actually looking for a whole new team again.
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:17.599
I mean, I have grassroots and I have dead, but I'm actually, you know, right now I'm I don't have a manager.
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:24.079
I'm like, so I need to find my team again to do stuff and and to hire on, like for social media.
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.880
And I I mean I have people that work with me, yeah.
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.320
But you know, I need a really bigger team, and especially off of this song right here.
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.920
I think this song is is really just gonna, it's just open things for me and like sponsorships.
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.719
Like this thing is like online, absolutely, absolutely.
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:48.239
So now I'm looking for you know um brand sponsorships and also sync licensing for this song.
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.639
I think this song should be on the Super Bowl.
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.920
Yeah, well, maybe yeah, during a car ad or a beer commercial.
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:57.599
Let's get that done.
00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.599
Let's see the video.
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:00.559
Have you watched the video?
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.559
I did not watch the video, I'll be totally honest with you, but I will once we're off.
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:06.639
Because that's yeah, absolutely.
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.639
You'll get that vision once you see it.
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:10.559
Because I absolutely did that.
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:11.519
Absolutely.
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.800
So I mean, would you ever go back to acting?
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.159
Yeah, no, no, that's that's that's so that's still there.
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.280
That's still there, what you do, it you just bring it all together.
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:27.519
Yeah, I just yeah, I just wanted it to be through the music first, and I kind of put it aside.
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:34.960
And I again that's kind of like my dad said about the acting earlier, like you know, you'd be pounding the pavement.
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.280
I I decided no, music is my thing, so no acting until I have music.
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.039
Well, I could have done both.
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:48.159
Yeah, I like I like the focus of doing the music, and then my whole bill to start working, you know, as an actor.
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:48.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:54.880
The reason I asked that, Woody, was uh because your website kind of talks about this being another chapter for you.
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.840
That's why I was kind of like, you know, are you gonna stick with the music or you're gonna do both, or what are you gonna do?
00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:01.119
So and you answered it.
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.920
So yeah, no, I'd love the opportunity to act, and uh for sure.
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.880
Do they still call you commercials?
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.039
No, I I kind of exited all that on my own.
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:14.800
Like, uh, okay, all right.
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:23.760
I didn't know if you you know you did have somebody working on your side saying, Hey, you know, here's a few extra bucks we can get you in the spot, or we need somebody to do this or whatever.
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.599
Because you know, I'm ready for the next Taylor Sheridan lead.
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.159
Dude, dude, I think you could do that.
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.400
Yeah, I mean, he likes to he likes to cast musicians, it's funny.
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.440
100%, you know, all the way, baby.
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.320
Yeah, all the way.
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.559
Yeah, but you know, like it's a journey, you know.
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:48.880
It's not that this is not how I saw it all happening, but it is, you know, it's one of those just life meanders, you know.
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:54.000
And yeah, and I mean, I'm driven, but and life has not always happened like I've wanted it.
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.800
But I'm still feel I feel I feel better now than when I had my first record deal.
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:04.400
You know, wow, and I have more to say, and it's easier to write, my voice is better, you know.
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:05.519
That sounds great.
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:06.800
I mean, there's no doubt.
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:11.280
You you've you're the whole not to sound weird, but you're the whole package, dude.
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:15.920
You've got the voice, you got the looks, you've got all that going for you, which is just phenomenal.
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:27.920
And I frankly, I'm kind of surprised that Taylor Sheridan has not reached out to you or somebody on that team because knowing you're in Nashville, knowing you're an actor, knowing you're a great artist, what the hell, man?
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.199
Maybe, maybe this is the the avenue to make that happen.
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:32.719
Just we're gonna work on that.
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:34.320
We're gonna work on that, brother.
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:35.199
We're gonna work on that.
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:36.320
I would love to do that.
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:40.400
Um, outside of music, what makes uh Woody Bradshaw happy these days?
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:41.599
And thank you, by the way.
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:42.960
That was very complimentary.
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.239
Um, what makes me happy these days?
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.840
Um, can I get get real with you here?
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.320
You can get dude, you can get real.
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:52.800
All right.
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:55.519
I'll tell you, I'll tell you one reason.
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:23.119
Uh a big part of my story is you know, after that first deal, that heartbreak is um, you know, I I was in a slumber for a while, you know, and when I say that, I mean like, you know, I'm I don't know if I wouldn't say I was an alcoholic, but drinking, there's drinking too much, just enough of it to where I I realized I lost like 10 years um a year and a half ago.
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.480
My a friend, two friends of mine, I met them at this one bar.
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:28.159
I'm I mean, I never was a bar guy.
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:31.840
I was usually I'd go out late and then I go hunting, so to speak.
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.119
Yeah, I gotcha.
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:40.159
But but I never was like the after-work bar guy, and all of a sudden, 10 years ago, I that slowly happened.
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:46.480
And I met this couple, and then they got married, and then they had a child, then they had another child, and they were celebrating their 10-year anniversary.
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:53.039
And I and I remember thinking when we were talking about that, I thought, those are the these are the worst 10 years of my life.
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.639
And I realized that, and I and I knew my mom was praying, she's like, You're drinking a little too much, I think.
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.280
So I just quit drinking a year and a half ago.
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.599
And dude, congrats.
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.320
I mean, it was just like I was waiting, it was waiting for.
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:14.880
I mean, I don't really like beer, and it was one of those things I think it was just a fixation of it's the comfort thing, it's just yeah, yeah, totally.
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:31.760
And I just stopped it, and then I would still go visit and go see my friends, but I could only hang there a little bit because it's obnoxious when you're not when other people are drinking, but and it was no problem for me going, so that just kind of changed my everything, and all of a sudden, my clarity.
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:50.400
Because I'm a I mean, I've I have big dreams and visions for my life, but I realize you're just stifling those vision, and then I have a you know, a mom who's wonderful, she's relevant, still cute, but she's getting older, and I wanted to be more present for her because I go back and forth from here in Nashville, it's like half the year.
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:51.360
Where are you now?
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:53.199
Aren't you are you in Nashville right now?
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:54.400
I'm in Nashville right now.
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:55.119
Okay, all right.
00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:08.480
I'll be going back there next week, and uh, and I just want you know, I just want to be the best me for her, and I have a brother down there, and um, and he has some health issues that might be a player.
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.880
And um, I don't know, it's just made everything more clear.
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.360
I'm a better son, better brother.
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.559
You know, that sounds corny probably on no, no, you know, dude.
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.440
I mean, it takes a lot to say that you said it.
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:25.360
But it's helpful music, too.
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:30.159
I mean, it's just really that's why I've come to life, and I feel like I could I can't stop writing now, too.
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.159
Now that I um now that I asked you that, let me let me flip it around here.
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:37.920
What scares you more today?
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:39.760
Failure or regret?
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.320
Oh, that's a great question.
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.440
Um, you've got a lot of them, though.
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.519
You're a very good interviewer, by the way.
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:50.639
Uh well, thank you very much.
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:52.559
Best one I've had for sure.
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.239
Oh, dude, you're so kind.
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.039
See, we're gonna have to uh go out and get a soda.
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:58.480
Absolutely.
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.199
Uh I'll drink a no-alcohol beer with you.
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:01.679
I still do that.
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:02.239
There you go.
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:02.639
I'll do it.
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:03.119
I'll do it.
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:03.519
All right.
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:04.960
So, what scares you more?
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:06.239
Say that again.
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.840
What scares you more today?
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.920
Is it failure or regret?
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.920
I think I think now it'd be regret.
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:18.159
I think if you asked me, you know, a while back, 20 years ago, failure.
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:24.639
But now, yeah, I think I see life, you know, it is one of those things you can't predict.
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.400
And um, and so living your best life, you know, and then or not taking chances.
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.480
Like I said, I was hiding for 10 years.
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:34.800
So I regret that.
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:47.360
I've and I regret even the years before that, uh, depending on other stuff, you know, and not, you know, just not being in giving your full your full self, you know.
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:54.000
I people talking about Tom Cruise, you know, people make fun of him about the Scientology and stuff.
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:54.639
Oh, yeah.
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:59.679
But you can't help but admire that guy because he's so focused and driven.
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:17.599
And you know, and a lot of actors when they're young, or in any or musicians, you know, you fall into that trap of hey, I had this one thing, I'd celebrate, and then you fall into that trap of just going by the wayside because you're not thinking about the next greatness, right?
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:17.840
Right.
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:25.519
I want to be, I want to achieve greatness, and so like this this song is an example of I feel like in some ways I have with that.
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.480
Yeah, totally.
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:27.760
And yes, sir.
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:36.480
So it's not even necessarily about making it or fame, it's really just doing great work and being recognized for it and then making a living at it, you know.
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:40.159
Exactly, exactly, and it looks like you're doing okay.
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.079
So that's uh that's pretty cool.
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:47.039
Um, Woody, what's something people assume about you from your music that isn't really true?
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:53.599
We're gonna wrap this up in a few minutes, but uh, what's something people assume about you from your music that is not actually true?
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.480
From my music that is not true.
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:57.920
That's a toughie.
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:06.719
Um well in the early days, maybe it that I'm a womanizer.
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:07.440
Okay.
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:16.960
Because I would write, well, I'd write a lot of songs about um leaving, you know, and being like, oops, sorry, I didn't mean to leave.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:18.559
Can I can you come back?
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.679
Um let's see if I'm making that clear or not.
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:28.719
Nah, you're a good guy, and you you think people kind of took it the wrong way because maybe you were too nice to people.
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.400
No, no, especially the I was a bad, bad boy.
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.840
You're a badass.
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.280
No, I mean, I've I've always been well, okay.
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:45.519
No, I think I I think I mean I love I you know, in the past I've loved women, that was part of the other thing.
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.519
My crutch was women, right?
00:59:47.679 --> 01:00:06.400
And so it's too much time, you know, dabbling with gifts in the wrong area instead of being again being driven and not but just be that being like like he's some jerk, he's a player, but I'm really that that goodness in me that that when I went to New York, the God thing.
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.719
I think I I'm I wore it something I don't want to be, but I'm really good.
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.079
So when people think you're like some dog, it's like that's just not true.
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:17.679
Yeah, I don't believe it.
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:20.480
I got a weakness, what can I say?
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:28.719
Hey, you're a guy for crying out loud, and you're a good-looking guy and all that, but just you gotta put your priorities where they need to be.
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:34.880
But even that, even like with with women now, it's like like I again, my focus is not on that.
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.360
Like, I'm not totally just by not drinking.
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:47.679
That's funny that drinking puts you on a stage, it's like uh gets you you know juiced up to go do stuff you you wouldn't normally do, right?
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:48.079
Right.
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:49.199
No, yeah.
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.679
So now I want I want the right girl.
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:52.639
There you go.
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:54.559
It'll happen, it'll happen, dude.
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:55.199
It'll happen.
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:56.400
Just everything takes time.
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.320
So um have you been married?
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:02.639
How long have I oh my gosh, it's like don't tell anybody, but it's my third.
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:07.440
Um I but I've been married since '96 now, and life is great.
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:11.920
We have a 25-year-old son who I mentioned is uh Down syndrome.
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:16.719
I have eight grandchildren, I have three beautiful daughters from my ex.
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:18.800
Um, and life is great.
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:19.599
You know what I mean?
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:20.320
Life is great.
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:23.599
I have one daughter that lives fairly close here in the Northeast.
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:29.519
Uh, I got another one that's in western New York, and I have another one that's down uh near Newport News, Virginia.
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:33.280
So um, so you know, but to family, it it's great.
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.519
Life is good, everything's wonderful.
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:36.400
I got a beautiful home.
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.719
I mean, are y'all what's that?
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:40.559
You get to see them quite a bit.
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.320
Uh I I see the one that lives around here quite a bit.
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:44.639
Yeah.
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:59.119
But it it's hard because, as you know, I mean, you're always either performing or I have to do the radio thing, and it's just and the weekends kind of suck at times when you do want to go and see see the kids or whatever, it gets difficult.
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.519
So, but uh I do my best to keep in touch.
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:04.880
People go away, it's hard to but you know what?
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:05.760
It's good for them.
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.360
It's good for them to get away.
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:12.960
My daughters grew up, they did what they had to do, and they've got their their own lives too.
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.079
And like I said, they've given me eight grandchildren.
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:20.719
And at the holidays, at the holidays, we kind of, you know, we do get together.
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.400
And you know, I'm a very young grandpa, uh, I will admit that.
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.400
And uh, I love being called Papa.
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:27.360
Just saying.
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:28.079
Just saying.
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.320
Yeah, I wouldn't take you for a granddad yet.
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.639
Oh, well, if only you knew.
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.480
Um no.
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.039
All right, so let's talk about Woody Bradshaw.
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:38.159
Where can we get your music?
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Where are we gonna go?
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What's the website?
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Where can we get you know everything Woody Bradshaw?
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You can get my you can find my music on all social downloads.
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Okay.
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And uh my website is Woody Bradshaw.com, and we just revived it, revamped it.
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Yep.
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So it looks really good too.
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I'm really uh pleased with it.
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And you can see like four of my videos on there, the hallelujah, the new song, The Last Thing You Do, I think is on there.
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Okay, and you'll learn another story about me with a song about Amber, which is a daughter I have.
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Beautiful.
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How old is she?
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I can't tell you that.
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Okay, never mind.
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She's an adult.
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I thought you no, no.
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Oh, she's an adult.
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Okay, I got you.
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But it's it's our it's our story, and it's uh it's I love that it's another story that you don't have time for right now, but it the story is in the song, and and uh we'll listen to it and we'll hear it.
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Please do.
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God, I love that, man.
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I got is it is she your only daughter?
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Yes, yes, that's awesome.
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That's awesome.
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But I also have a granddaughter.
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There you go.
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See, and you're a young grandpa, I can just tell.
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I mean, we're just 12 when I had her.
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What can I say?
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Hey, we have something in common.
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I mean too.
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Um, exactly.
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So a little bit of rapid fire before I let you go.
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Uh, let's have a little fun.
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Uh, first concert you ever attended.
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Z Top Mobile, Alabama, with my cousin.
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Oh, cool.
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All right.
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First album you uh ever bought with your own money.
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Um I think it maybe was an Aerosmith album.
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I I liked rock too.
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That was my other A oh, you're gonna like this one.
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A Jimmy Webb song you wish you'd written.
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Which tall linemen?
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No, that could be the greatest song ever.
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Yeah, of all time.
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Yeah, uh, the best songwriter that you have ever sat in a room with.
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Jimmy Webb.
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Okay, let's let's not make it about Jimmy Webb.
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Uh no, you could be right, dude.
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Well, he he is my favorite songwriter, but all right, other than him, Marcus Human is Nashville, and he was also loves Jimmy Webb, I found out.
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And he wrote hits like um God bless the broken road.
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You know, he writes those really deep.
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I I I have a I I've heard the name.
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I've heard the name.
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And he wrote uh Cowboy Take Me Away.
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I mean, he can write the fun stuff too, like yeah, but he's a brilliant writer.
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Absolutely.
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I'd like him, I'd like to write with him if you're listening, Marcus.
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I love it.
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Um, favorite place to hear live music in Nashville.
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Uh Third and Lindsey.
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There you go.
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Have you been out there?
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Um the Station Inn.
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I used to go, I'd love to go to the Station Inn.
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Yeah, yeah, that's a great place too.
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Yeah.
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Have you been to Third and Lindsley?
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Yep, a few times.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's turned into a great venue now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And of course, the bluebird.
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You can't oh you can't beat the bluebird.
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I mean, the bluebird's over here.
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That's always gonna be some little thing, you know, it's special.
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Studio or stage?
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I'd love to do the stage.
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I think overall studio, but I'd love to be on Broadway.
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That's another thing I still want to do is like like musically, just do a Broadway show.
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Like what was his name?
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Um, did Pirates of Penzance with Linda Ronstadt, Gary?
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Oh um.
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Gary Morse.
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Yes, Gary Morse.
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What a great singer he was.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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Let me ask you this.
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Oh, go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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There you go.
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Now, if someone has never heard Woody Bradshaw, nobody's heard you, or that somebody hasn't heard you.
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What's the one song you want them to start with?
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Oh, of mine.
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I'd have to say the last thing you do.
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Just I mean, I didn't write that one, but that's just again, it's such a great song, great universal message of and I think that kind of stuff does reflect since then of the stuff I like to write.
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You know, of how important the people are in our lives that we love, and uh, you know, and and telling them that how much we love them every day, or watching our tongue when we're not very sweet, you know.
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Yeah, so yes, absolutely.
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Woody, you're awesome.
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And a one of my own, I would say, um, till the pieces fit.
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Uh, it's about my mom and dad, which has not been out yet.
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Yeah.
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Did you say is your dad still alive?
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No, he he passed in 2018.
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Okay.
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, thank you.
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I heard you mention your mom, and then I just got thinking, yeah, I haven't heard you mention your dad, so I kind of figured.
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Yeah.
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My mom's gonna be a rough one.
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She's like my bestie.
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Yeah.
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And uh she's a one of a kind.
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And matter of fact, I'm doing a songwriter festival um October 1st at Pensacola, by the way, okay.
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And it's called the Pensacola Songwriter Festival.
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And uh she'll be there.
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It's funny, even at the Bluebird, we talked about how quiet it is.
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You know, you're supposed to be quiet and very reverent.
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Yep.
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I think we were the only ones that when I sang there, um, my parents were both there, and my dad loved this till the pieces fit.
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The song is about kind of their story.
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The first verse is about her, second, and then how they meet at the bridge.
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And uh, and I told him they were gonna act it out.
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My dad, he, like I said, he's very stoic, but he had his part to play, so he gets out of his chair and it goes uh he he smoked, he drank and smoke, you know.
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So he gets up and he throws his flicks his cigarette and stomps it.
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And then my mom would do her little part, and people love it.
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I love it.
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But she's the ham of the family.
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My mom is she's she's funny.
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I love her.
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I love people like that.
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That's so cool.
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My parents are gone, but uh still, my mother-in-law is 98.
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So that's uh and her goal in life is to live to be 100.
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That's what she keeps saying.
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That's a great goal.
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That's what I keep telling my mom.
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I said, You can go once you hit 100, but you have to still act like you do right now.
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Exactly, exactly, because it it ends up being a lot of work for somebody.
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I mean, thank God we have my wife's got a good family, a big family, and everybody is kind of chipping in to help, but yeah, still it's it's it's a lot of work, it's a lot of work.
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So, but uh Woody, I want to say thank you.
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You've taken an hour out of your time to to hang on Skip Happens, we got to know each other a little bit, and uh just you know, go to uh WoodyBradshaw.com, check out the music, check out the videos because I'm gonna be checking them out here in just a minute as well.
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And Woody, uh just again, thank you.
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Good luck to you.
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And um if you've been watching this or if you're watching down the road or you listen to it, please go to YouTube, Skip Happens Podcast.
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You're not only going to see Woody, you see a lot of the artists we've talked to, a lot of the big artists, a lot of the independent artists, and some great people, for example, Woody.
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So thank you for watching, everybody.
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Woody, I want you I want you to stay right there.
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And uh thank you for watching, y'all.