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Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Senseless True Crime.
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I'm Chantelle B, and welcome back to the show.
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Inside every neighborhood, there are homes that we pass by without a second thought.
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Behind those homes are ordinary lives, families sharing meals, children laughing, people who have worked unwinding from their work day, futures quietly unfolding.
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Most of us never stop to wonder whether somewhere nearby someone is living through the final moments before their lives change forever.
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Today's case begins inside one of those homes in Barnwell, South Carolina.
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At the center of this case is seventeen year old Malaysia Hawk.
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She was a young woman whose future held untapped potential, and whose name deserves to be remembered for far more than the violence that ultimately claimed her life.
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With so many tragedies, the warning signs were not immediately obvious.
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The truth was buried beneath everyday routines, private struggles, and moments that at first glance appeared no different than any other day.
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But beneath the surface, something far more sinister was taking shape.
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What started as a missing person's case for a teenager who was just days away from giving birth ended as one of the most disturbing homicide investigations that Barnwell, South Carolina had ever witnessed.
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What investigators would eventually uncover was a crime scene so disturbing that it would leave even seasoned detectives shaken to the core and searching for answers.
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Loved ones would struggle to understand how the unimaginable happened and an entire community would ask the same haunting question.
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How could this happen?
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This is not simply a story about violence.
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This is a story about trust, vulnerability, and how quickly lives can be stolen when cruelty replaces compassion.
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When one life ends before it even had the chance to begin.
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But before we get into the gruesome details of the case, we must first honor the victims.
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Malaysia Shantivia Hogg was born in January 2007.
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Now she was the daughter of London Charity, and she grew up in Barnwell, South Carolina, which was a small town where everyone seemed to know her and her family.
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But they knew her by her smile.
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When they talked about her, it was the first thing anyone noticed, but the last thing anyone would forget.
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Three years before her death, Malaysia lost her mother, and the loss reshaped her world.
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Her grandfather and her uncle stepped in to raise her, and her stepfather, Michael Sapp, stayed close to her, never stepping back from her life even after everything changed.
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Grief like that could have heartened a teenager.
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Malaysia chose the opposite.
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She held on to hope.
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She kept pushing forward, but even with her mother gone with so much uncertainty, her aunt, Judy Hogg, knew her better than most, and she described a young girl who lit up every room she walked into.
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She was outgoing, cheerful, and always buzzing with energy that pulled people toward her.
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Her aunt said she just wanted a better life and she wanted to make it out.
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Malaysia talked about her future like it was already happening, like she could see it on the horizon.
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She loved being around her family, soaking up family moments, and she had this way of making people feel like she genuinely wanted to be there with them.
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Not just passing through, but a natural warmth that you could feel.
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It was just who she was.
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And it made her easy to love, but even easier to root for.
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Malaysia had a solid plan for her future.
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Once she finished school at Barnwell High School, she then wanted to pursue a career in nursing.
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She talked about attending nursing school and wanting to spend her life helping other people heal.
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She wanted to take care of patients the way she wished taken care of her mother.
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Despite the hole in her heart left from her mother's death, she kept pushing toward that goal.
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Her family watched her work for it, piece by piece, refusing to let her circumstances write her story for her.
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Malaysia never wanted to be viewed as a victim because her circumstances were difficult.
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She showed impeccable strength, and she wanted to be viewed as an overcomer.
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But then life handed her something sweet, something else to hope for.
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By early 2024, Malaysia was forty weeks pregnant with a baby girl, and she was practically glowing with anticipation.
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She would pass around the ultrasound pictures to anyone who would look, and her family had already fallen for the baby before she had even arrived, like she was already part of their everyday lives.
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Malaysia planned to name her baby girl London Charity after the mother she'd lost.
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This was a way of keeping her mother's name alive, something that would carry her legacy forward.
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She talked about the baby constantly.
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She also talked about childbirth and labor pains, and she was excited to become a mother herself.
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She also talked about the life she wanted to give Baby London.
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But Malaysia had no idea how little time she had left on this earth, and how much those hopes and dreams would never materialize.
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February eighth, twenty twenty four started off as an ordinary day in Barnwell.
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But that day would quickly turn into the start of a nightmare that no one saw coming.
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Seventeen year old Malaysia hog, who was forty weeks pregnant and carrying her unborn daughter, was just days away from giving birth.
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She left her boyfriend's home that day and started the walk back to where she lived.
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Surveillance cameras captured Malaysia walking towards a nearby park, moving along a path that took her past the home of sixty-two year old Jacqueline Reed.
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Now Jacqueline Reed was no stranger.
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She was a woman who spent a lot of time at the same residence where Malaysia lived.
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Prosecutors would later confirm that there had been ongoing tensions between Malaysia and Jacqueline.
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Once Malaysia passed that park, the footage went out of cameras focus.
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There were no more sightings, no more surveillance footage, and Malaysia never made it home.
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From that point on, no one heard a word from her again.
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For a young woman who was on the edge of becoming a mother that had everything to live for, and her family counting on her return.
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The silence felt horrifying from the very beginning.
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Malaysia was scheduled to be induced on february thirteenth if the labor hadn't started on its own by then.
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Now this date her family knew all too well.
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She would never miss this appointment.
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Because Malaysia spent weeks talking about that appointment and how excited she was to finally meet her daughter.
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Missing this appointment wasn't something she would do intentionally, but at first her relatives tried to hold on to hope that she would somehow turn up.
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Word got around that someone had spotted her near the park that she was walking by.
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Calls to her phone and text messages went unanswered.
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Her family believed that maybe she had lost her phone.
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And for a brief moment, that explanation felt plausible enough to ease the panic.
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Her aunt Judy remembered a conversation with her father where he tried to calm her down, praying that Malaysia would surface before her doctor's appointment came around.
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But days kept passing by with no phone call, no text, no glimpse of Malaysia anywhere.
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And that reassurance started to break down.
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By the time Monday came, there was still no word from Malaysia.
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She still hadn't come home.
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Judy could no longer sit with the hope that Malaysia was safe.
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She told herself that something was wrong, that this wasn't who Malaysia was, that a young woman, this close to giving birth, does not just vanish without a trace.
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This was unlike Malaysia to not remain in contact with her family.
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February thirteenth came and went, and Malaysia never showed up for her induction appointment.
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That was the moment that any remaining hope was shattered.
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Because everyone who knew her had watched her count down the days to meeting her daughter.
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Everyone had seen the excitement in Malaysia.
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None of them could accept that she had simply walked away from the baby that she had been so anxiously waiting to meet.
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The next day, february fourteenth, her family made an official missing persons report to the Barnwell County Sheriff's Office.
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Law enforcement did not hesitate.
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They moved quickly once that missing person's report came in.
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They were fully aware that two lives were hanging in the balance Malaysia and her unborn daughter.
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So investigators pulled every bit of surveillance footage they could find in the area.
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They also canvassed the neighborhood and talked to anyone who may have seen Malaysia during her final hours minute by minute.
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What they confirmed had only deepened the mystery.
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The last verified footage of Malaysia showed her walking from her boyfriend's home.
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Now this surveillance footage shows her alive and well, no signs of distress.
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But after that, there was absolutely nothing, no clear trail, no witness who could say what happened once she passed that park.
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No answer for where a forty weeks pregnant teenager could disappear without one single trace.
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Search efforts continued, but the clock was ticking.
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Where was Malaysia?
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The silence surrounding her case only became louder, leaving her family stuck between fear and the kind of hope that gets harder to hold on to with each passing day.
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As detectives widened their search, there was one piece of technology that cracked this case wide open.
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The signal from Malaysia's AirPods kept pinging back to one location.
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That location was an address tied to 62-year-old Jacqueline Reed.
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So investigators followed the AirPods signal straight to Jacqueline's door.
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They sat her down for questioning.
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But Reed denied that Malaysia had ever set foot inside her home.
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Still, something on Reed's porch caught investigators' attention right away.
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Several rugs hung out to dry.
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An officers said the smell coming from them was a strong odor of bleach, strong enough to notice immediately.
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But detectives needed to first obtain a search warrant for the home, and while they waited, they continued building their case piece by piece before moving in for a full search.
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While they waited, there was an unexpected detail that emerged from hospital records, revealing that on the very day that Malaysia disappeared, Jacqueline Reed sought emergency medical treatment for a severe hand injury.
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Now her right pinky finger was nearly severed, resulting in her finger actually being amputated.
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While she later claimed in recorded jail calls that the injury occurred while slicing chicken, her boyfriend openly doubted her story.
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Now he questioned how was it that she could have injured her right hand when she was known to hold a knife in her left hand.
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Now this jailhouse recording became a crucial piece of evidence for prosecutors, representing yet another inconsistency in Reed's story.
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On february eighteenth, more than a week after Malaysia's disappearance, investigators secured the search warrant and they began searching the area behind Reed's home.
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That search resulted in the discovery everyone feared.
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Malaysia's body was found hidden in a ditch on Reed's property.
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Right beside her was her unborn daughter, London Charity, who was never given the opportunity to experience life outside her mother's womb.
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The transition from a missing person search to a homicide investigation marked the start of an even grimmer chapter in this case that ultimately resulted in the loss of not one but two lives.
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As news of the tragedy circulated, it brought profound heartbreak to the Barnwell community and the family of Malaysia Hogg, who had held out hope that she would be found alive while the investigation was still taking shape.
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What investigators uncovered next made this tragedy even harder to understand.
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Malaysia had been stabbed fifty times.
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She suffered stab wounds to her head, neck, back, and her stomach.
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Her unborn daughter had also suffered stab wound injuries that ended her life before it even started.
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Surveillance footage confirmed what investigators already knew.
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Malaysia had been walking towards her home on february eighth and simply never arrived.
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In a detail that left the Barnwell community reeling, Jacqueline Reed, the woman accused of killing her, had taken part in the search efforts for Malaysia, walking alongside her family and a community desperate to bring her home, all while knowing exactly where her body was and what she had done.
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Jacqueline Reed eventually admitted to stabbing both Malaysia and her unborn baby that day, though she continued to insist that Malaysia had never been inside her home.
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Now her version of events did not hold up against the evidence.
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Malaysia's DNA was recovered from three separate locations on Reed's property, tying her directly to the murder, and this crucial piece of information closed the gap between her story and what the forensic evidence actually proved.
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Piece by piece, the case against Reed came into view, all built from a strong smell of bleach on three separate rugs that she had hung out to dry on her porch.
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Also the amputated finger explained away by a lie that she had cut her finger while slicing chicken, the DNA evidence that she could not talk her way out of.
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More than four months passed after Malaysia and her unborn daughter were brutally murdered and found in that ditch behind Jacqueline Reed's home.
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Behind the scenes, agents from the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division worked alongside the Barnwell Police Department, piecing together forensic evidence, interviewing anyone who might know something, and rebuilding the final hours of Malaysia's life.
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Their investigation eventually led them back to one person only, 62-year-old Jacqueline Reed.
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The same woman who lived on the property where the bodies were found.
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Forensic evidence pulled from inside her home connected her directly to the murder.
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So investigators confirm something else just as damning.
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Reed had been one of the last people to see Malaysia alive, walking before she disappeared.
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On July 1st, 2024, Jacqueline Reed was charged with two counts of murder, one for Malaysia and one for her unborn daughter, London Charity.
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This was the breakthrough that the Barnwell community had been waiting on for months.
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Prosecutors did not soften what they found.
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They alleged that Malaysia had been stabbed dozens of times before her body was left in a ditch, just steps from Reed's back door.
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Malaysia's family confirmed that she did in fact get a chance to hold her baby when the medical examiner's office placed her unborn baby in her arms.
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Malaysia's family called Reed's actions evil and sick.
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How someone who is old enough to be a grandmother to this child could do something so horrifying.
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Let's take a listen.
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Malaysia's aunt tells me Malaysia was days away from giving birth to her baby girl in London when she disappeared four months ago.
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Her family says they landed on their faith, knowing the truth would come to light, but they never imagined this outcome.
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After four months of tears, sleepless nights, and questions without answers, one question remains.
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Why?
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She really has heard it.
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She's taken away not only one person in our lives, but two people.
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I just want to know why.
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Judy Hogg's talking about 62-year-old Jacqueline Reed, charged with killing Hogg's niece, Malaysia.
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Everybody should be trying to get their life right, but 60?
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And then you go and say a child that's I mean, she just had turned 17.
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And then on top of that, she was pregnant.
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You know, I've I've really had angry emotions.
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Investigators say the 17-year-old was found dead in February with multiple stab wounds.
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They found her in this ditch in Bornwell.
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Evil and sick.
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Sled says the ditch isn't far from the suspect's home, and they found evidence of the crime there too.
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Just days before she died, Malaysia was expected to give birth to baby London.
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You have to be sick with hate to do someone like that.
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Anybody.
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Better yet, a child.
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And then to know that she was finna have her baby in less than a day or two, that's it.
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Hogg says while the new charges bring a sense of peace, all she can think about are her niece's final moments.
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I know she probably was like, I can't believe I'm dying like this.
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I'm pregnant.
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And I try not to think about it because I mean it really hurts.
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And I don't want to cry right now, but just know I did cry tears of joy this morning, and I'm happy.
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And she says, determined to keep her faith, knowing Malaysia in London join her sister, Malaysia's mother, as guardian angels.
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Now, as for the suspect, Jacqueline Reed, she will come face to face with the Hawk family tomorrow in court, and Judy says she's ready to keep fighting for justice.
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Certainly a sad story with those new details tonight.
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Hallie, thanks for the update there.
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The arrest of Jacqueline Reed provided only a measure of relief for Malaysia's family.
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Her stepfather, Michael Sack.
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He hadn't just known Reed from a distance.
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He stood face to face with her during the search for Malaysia.
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And he asked her directly if she had seen his stepdaughter.
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And she lied.
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Now he later described looking her in the eye and getting nothing but denial.
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Now this memory sat differently with him.
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Michael also remembered who Malaysia had been in the final week.
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She was a young woman by one thing only.
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The baby that she was about to bring into in this world.
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That excitement.
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So much harder for the family.
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When we finally appeared in the court, we're colliding with the relatives from the woman.
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Almost immediately.
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None of it had an idea.
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Jacqueline Reed thought that Malaysia was somehow involved with her boyfriend.
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Let's take a listen.
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Yeah, just a tragedy in Barnwell County, South Carolina, beginning with information on a missing young lady, 17-year-old Malaysia hog.
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The search lasted about two weeks to try to find her.
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The ending tragic.
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She had apparently been killed, and now the legal proceedings begin.
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Here's Aiken Bureau Chief Sean Cavenstalk.
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62-year-old Jacqueline Reed is charged with two counts of murder.
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Investigators say forensic evidence found at her home later to the crime.
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That's what we're Malaysia Hogg was reported missing on Valentine's Day.
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She was days away from delivering her daughter London charity.
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Her body was discovered February 18th in a ditch near Perry and Main Streets in Barnwell.
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I was crying.
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62-year-old Jacqueline Reed was arrested July 1st in connection with her death.
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Tensions were high as Reed appeared in court Tuesday.
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She refused to speak with the judge, who ultimately bond.
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I need you to speak where I have a court to hear you.
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With the journal, you don't want to talk.
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Okay.
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Investigators say during the search of her home, forensic evidence was found that linked her to Malaysia's death.
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I wanna know why you took two kids like my house in my yard.
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Family members expressed their raw emotions as they saw Reed in court.
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You know, I shouldn't have done a little bit more.
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A motive has not been released.
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And there's still a number that you can call to give information in Malaysia Hawk's death.
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We have that information on WJBF.com.
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In Barnwell County, I'm making Bureau Chief Sean Cavenstock, WJBF News Channel 6.
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So as the case moved through the pretrial proceedings, the prosecutors laid out exactly what they planned to bring to trial.
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The DNA that belonged to Malaysia, which was found in three separate locations inside Reed's home, which was a direct contradiction of her statement that Malaysia had never been inside the home.
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Investigators pointed to the rugs found drying outside of the home that were so oblique.
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The smell was strong enough to suggest that someone had tried to clean up the privacy.
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They also tied that to the timing of Reed's hospital visit.
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The same day in Malaysia vanished.
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That she sustained this injury from slicing chicken that didn't match up with which hand she normally used.
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None of it made sense.
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Refusing to take a plea deal, even with the evidence that was stabbed against her.
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At a bond hearing held not long after, solicitor Leah Stags admitted the one thing that investigators still could not fully explain, which was motive.
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The prosecutors told the court that they had no idea why it happened, but only that a 17-year-old girl and her baby had ended up getting behind the defendant's hall, left there for weeks before they were found.
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Reed's attorney pushed for bond release while she awaited trial.
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Now her attorney argued that she deserved a chance to fight her case from outside a jail cell.
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Now Judge Pope, who was presiding over this bond hearing, was not moved to grant Reed bail, given the nature of the charges against her.
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Now the judge said that denying Bond was the only appropriate decision.
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Reed stayed behind bars, waiting on a trial that could end with her spending the rest of her life in prison.
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Let's take a listen.
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Those charges are murder and causing a death to a fetus during the conviction of a violent crime.
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This is the defensive motion for a bond.
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And I'm happy to defer to Mr.
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Hayes or give the court a few background facts if you look like.
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Alright, so Mr.
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Hayes, I'll hear your motion, but I wanted to give it some background from Mr.
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Listener.
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Thank you, Judge.
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This incident happened in February of 2024.
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And Judge, honestly, it's kind of a long story, but it can best be described as a tribe against what would the tribe look like.
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The victim in this case was a 17-year-old girl who was 40 weeks pregnant.
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She lost her mother.
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She's living with her grandfather and her uncle.
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And she was due to give birth any day now when this happened, which we believe was on February the 8th of 2024.
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That's the last day that she was seen.
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She was seen on that day.
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She left her boyfriend's house at an apartment here in Farm Hall and walked through Fuller Park here, and the camera had captured her as she leaves the park walking towards her home.
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And that's the last time that anyone saw her alive.
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Then she was missing.
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About a week later, I want to say again double GS, ten days later, her aunt reported her missing.
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She hadn't given birth, she hadn't gone to the hospital, she was scheduled to be induced, she had shown up for that appointment, and no one knew where she was.
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So they started looking for her.
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Well, they didn't have any pings from her phone.
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They knew that the boyfriend texted her later in the day and he had never heard back from her.
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Her aunt did say that she'd given her these air pods and that the last ping on the air pod was at the 29 Perry Street.
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So Perry Street Judge is she had to pass by that location on her walk, leaving the park.
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And so on the 19th of February, when they searched that area, which is the house, it's a sort of a um, there's a side-by-side duplex, a multifamily unit outside of the park.
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Behind it, there's like this big wooded area with a ditch.
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And they located this victim's body and that of her unborn child.
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She had been stabbed to death, Judge.
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She was stabbed to death 50 times.
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She had stab wounds in her head and her neck and her back and her torso.
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Her baby had stab wounds.
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And her baby died as a result of the stab wounds and of the death of the mother.
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Law enforcement during the course of their investigation, the defendant, Jacqueline Reed, was identified as someone that had had a prior, what they described as an ongoing feat with the victim.
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So apparently the defendant used to hang out at the victim chair with her grandfather and uncle, and they got into some altercations.
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The victim had some issues, certainly, but they were known a disagreement.
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But what they learned is that on the day the victim went missing, the defendant went to the hospital because she had almost severed her pinky on her right hand.
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When they interviewed her, she admitted that she knew the victim.
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She said she had seen her on Wednesday the 7th.
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She went to the hospital on the 8th.
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She said she was in the hospital for a couple of days.
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She said after that she was uncomfortable staying at her house and bounced around between a friend and a nephew's house.
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She did have a boyfriend who usually lives with her, judge, but he was in jail in Richmond County in Augusta.
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And there were some jail calls from them.
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In the morning of the 8th, she said she was going to Dollar General to put minutes on his phone.
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And then a couple days later, she told him she cut her finger while cutting chicken.
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And later, when she was explaining on a different call, she's recounting these events again, and she tells him it was her right hand that she cut the finger.
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And he's like, Well, how would you do that?
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If you're cutting this chicken, how are you cutting the chicken with your left hand?
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That doesn't make any sense, right?
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She's right-handed.
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Well, her finger had to be amputated, Judge.
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Um in another call, she mentioned that she didn't want to stay at home by herself.
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She mentioned buzzards in the area and something must be dead out there.
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Later she told him that the victim had been found, and he said something to the effect that somebody would have had to bring the victim in defense.
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And again, she said she didn't want to stay at home.
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They got a search warrant for her house judge.
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While the search warrant's being executed, she was voluntarily interviewed by police again.
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She denied that the victim had ever been inside of her house.
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And there are three locations where the victim's DNA was found inside of her head.
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And originally when they were canvassing the area, while they were looking for the victim, they talked to her the first time.
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Then later they came back and noticed that there were big rugs flaying over like the edge of her pork that had recently been cleaned and re bleached and they were wet.
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I said, Judge, she had 50 stab wounds, most of them to her head and her stomach.
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She had multiple incisions on both of her hands that were consistent with defensive wounds.
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Now we don't, I mean we don't know why.
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We know that these people have had an altercation.
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We know that the victim is walking past this defendant's house on her way home.
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We know the airpods pinged at that location.
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We don't think she ever got any further.
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Those are the facts, Judge.
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I have no we have no idea why.
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Um, but we know that this poor 17-year-old girl and her baby ended up in a ditch right behind the defendant's head for several weeks before she was located.
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She does have a prior record, Your Honor.
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Um it's not anything major.
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She's got some troublings in the marijuana out of Georgia probation violation at some point, but nothing's happened.
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Um and I can wait to speak, but respectfully, Judge, I think we would ask that her bond remained denied.
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I think that the stabbing of a 17-year-old girl and her baby that was viable outside of the womb had she been allowed to give birth, certainly is something that presents a danger to the community, and we would ask that her bond say denied.
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Thank you, Madam Solicitor.
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I think your motion, sir.
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She does a sad job cleaning, she's been on disability all of her life for mental health issues.
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She attended high school at New Jersey City at Snyder High School.
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She went through the 10th grade, which we had a drop and algae.
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She had five wrong shoulders, two of them.
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And three of them are currently alive, at 13.
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And she has 13.
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Just quite a reasonable line because she's been a jail for the last 695 days.
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And she's having medical issues with her legs as well as her shoulders.
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Um I think we're at the point in the case that we're really close to being ready for trial.
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I've got an expert at fire for DNA because it was well.
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I had a score about eight terabyte parabouts better from everything else because it is so far.
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Alright.
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Thank you.
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Uh Mr.
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Hayes as well.
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So given the nature of the alleged charges, uh, I do think that is appropriate that one remain denied at this time.
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Um Mr.
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Hayes, please keep the court abreast of uh where your expert is in terms of the timeline, and then um obviously we'll work with you on the CSV that to get it tried as as soon as possible.
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If it's not able to be tried in 2026, we'll get it on as soon as possible for 2027 at January.
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I believe we have a term in Barnova, that term, but hopefully sooner than that.
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When this case comes to trial, and until a jury hears the evidence, the reason behind the killing stays locked away with the only person who seems to know why she committed this crime.
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Both sides have said they expect this trial to go on for some time.
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Twelve strangers will decide what happened to Jack and Read, and whether the whole family finally gets the justice that they've been chasing since the day in Malaysia and her unborn daughter were taken from this world through every stage of the investigation.
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The Hulk family held on to their faith in each other, refusing to let go of the demand for justice, even as the reason became unavailable.
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Judy Hall admitted that great around the summerly because finally they had a name to the nightmare.
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Very rarely what Judy wanted the most was an answer.
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Kindness carried the family through days that they weren't sure they'd survive.
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There are some stories that refuse to leave your heart because the loss is simply too great.
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But this is one of those stories.
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When I think about a Malaysia hog, I see a 17-year-old expectant mother pregnant with a baby girl that she was anxious and excited to meet.
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She was just days away from holding her baby in her arms.
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I can imagine Malaysia folding little onesies and baby socks, looking over every item she received at her baby shower, and just absolutely beaming and glowing.
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She should have been decorating a nursery for Baby London.
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She should have been wondering what her daughter would look like.
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I think about her stolen future.
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I think about the life that Malaysia should be living.
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She was only seventeen.
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She was vibrant, full of life.
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She should have been able to meet her daughter, whom she named after her late mother.
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Her future was stolen just days before she was meant to bring new life into this world.
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There was another future that disappeared before it even had the opportunity to begin.
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Baby London never had the chance to take her first breath.
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Never had the chance to wrap her tiny little fingers around her mother's hand.
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Never had the chance to celebrate her first birthday.
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Never had the chance to learn to walk.
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That is what makes this case so profoundly heartbreaking.
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This wasn't just the loss of one life.
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It was a loss of generations of memories that will never exist.
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No first day of school, no first Christmas, no bike with training wheels, no nursing school graduation.
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When things like this happened, an entire family tree was altered forever because of one horrific act.
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This is what violence does.
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It doesn't simply end lives, it steals futures.
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There is no motive, no reason, no single act that can describe what was taken from Malaysia and Baby London.
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The brutality of this crime is difficult to comprehend.
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The why of the crime makes this even more disgusting.
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The report that Jacqueline believed that this young woman was involved with her boyfriend.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but is there a shortage of men on this planet or something?
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Was this even worth taking two lives?
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This was a 62-year-old woman old enough to be this young girl's grandmother.
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Jacqueline Reed, are you okay?
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Because obviously not.
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It takes an unimaginable level of cruelty to destroy the life of an unborn baby who had absolutely no opportunity to defend herself.
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Baby London was completely innocent in this, and Malaysia was innocent in this.
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They committed no wrong, but they paid the ultimate price.
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Every unborn child represents a future, and that future was stolen.
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Cases like this force us to confront the uncomfortable truth regarding humanity.
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People are evil.
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And sometimes we ask why.
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Sometimes we search for logic.
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Sometimes we desperately want an explanation that makes everything fit perfectly.
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But some heinous acts cannot be explained in a way that makes them even understandable.
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Some acts remain exactly what they are: senseless.
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There are crimes that simply cannot be justified.
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There is no explanation that restores a family that allows London charity the opportunity to live the life that she deserved.
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This was entirely senseless.
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The most heinous part of this case is the very woman that took two lives joined in the search with the family, knowing that she had murdered this young girl and her unborn child.
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That's a different kind of evil.
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When violence reaches this level, communities are left asking the same questions over and over.
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How could someone be capable of such violence?
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What remains are grieving families who are left to figure out how to move forward.
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There's a quote that I heard that says, Grief is love that has no place to go.
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You visit a gravesite when you were anticipating a delivery room.
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That reality is impossible to comprehend.
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For the people who love Malaysia, for the ones who got excited to see her excitement, London Charity was already deeply loved before she entered this world.
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Their lives mattered, their dreams mattered, their futures mattered, and those futures were stolen.
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And I hope and pray that when this case finally goes to trial, that Jacqueline Reed will spend the remainder of whatever days she has left behind bars.
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And the fact that you show no remorse for a crime this brutal, this is unconscionable, may they both be remembered.
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May their names never be forgotten.
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And may their loved ones find strength, comfort, and healing in the difficult days ahead.
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Malaysia and Baby London, may your sweet and beautiful souls forever rest in peace.
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