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Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Today's Thursday After Morning seven, two thousand and twenty, coming up on Rolling Martin on the filtered protests for Jacob Blake continue in Kenosha, Wisconsin. We'll talk to one of the protesters about what he's seeing on the ground. NBA players they they went on strike last night. Uh W. NBA players three games on strike tonight in Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer. We get the ladies, that's what's going on. We'll talk with Craig Hodges, former NBA player who was known for his social activism, about what is going what he's seeing in sports today. Also folks, uh the margin Washington, the Anversariyes, tomorrow, we'll talk with the widow of ray Shard Brooks, who's gonna be speaking at the rally along with others who have law loved ones the RNC. The convention wraps up tonight. There's some black holes who spoke last night. A lot of lies being told. 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Last night, the fourth night of protesting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, of course, five days after a black man was shot in the back seven times. Jacob Black Uh, it's still hospitalized. His father says he's paralyzed and he's actually handcuffed to the bed. No explanation and why that's the case. Although curfews was set for seven PM, demonstrators took to the streets to make their voices heard uh in various protesting. Here some of the video folks of the protests that took place. Uh. There folks are marching down the streets and you see them hearing them as well. There have been other nights where, of course you've seen a truck set on fire. And of course what the last night, and the militia, the folks who were out the last couple of nights, they were not there last night after one of their own seventeen year old wife boys been arrested for the murder of two people. And so that's what's been going on there Today. Revergense Jackson Senior arrobbed in Kodosa to address the shootings of Jacob Blake and the pattern of killing black people in a news conference there. Well, let meet this point clear as a pattern killing black people. When the roof kill nine people in church in South and South Carolina, police took him to get a hamburger, fourteen to jail, he walked away. The killer walked away free. When Uh, George Flower was killed in Minnesota, the killer went home that night. The prosperous said, you can nothing could happen the next day when Keith got the case first time in history of Minnesota, black police had been ah and died at the killer of black Brianna Taylor. The killing Kentucky still walks free today. The killer Jacob stay home, the shoot them walked free today. The fact of that he is prost couldn't say in the Minnesota, they couldn't have found the case against the killer. The George Floyd Keith Ellison is the ton of journal move quickly in them now they're getting through an inn. The similar cause of the horrendous killing burned upon the upon the states turning in this state turned general to move and move quickly. We must do the justice works for the people. The second I want to made this concern that shotting the back seven times fervor time, no just in from no no justification when the performant don was field in Chicago, it's covered up the tape for in the day's sixteen shots. The lines that heard pros him of the night I'm sure shot him in the back said they find million dollars five million dollars for cover up and didn't work thro the kwamate Donald Brunna Taylor, Jacob here in in Wisconsin pattern we demand justice from the country there's a kind of moral desert at the top. Tell me how well, look at what's happening on the ground. Is one of the protesters, Kindle West, founder of the African American Club, Clint kind of glad to have the rolemart unfiltered. All right, sir, how are you doing great? There is this perception that all you see out of control white folks out there protesting in Kenosha, a city white. What is actually happening there from your perspective, from our perspective, uh, the black population of the largest black population are there as well. Um. But to be honest with you, we are the ones that are that are doing the majority of the peaceful protesting. Um Uh. We've been organized, We've been very vocal about the the actions that have been taken up until this point, from uh the shooting until present. So that being said, UM, we we respect the law enforcement's rules, regulations, policy procedures in reference to their UM, I guess their orders when it comes to different curfews and stuff like that. UM So, So the agitators, the people who are out here um um making things worse, aren't of our majority. UM. Sure, we may be a minority group, but of the majority of people that are out there protesting. Our community is doing it the right way. So are there any African Americans? Uh So, first of all, are y'all? Are y'all protesting in a separate location than what we're seeing each night because that video we showed where that truck was burned out is near the courthouse? And so what's going on there? And have any African Americans gone to where they are and and and literally said, hey, y'all ain't repping us. You're not you're not repping Jacob Blake, You're not ripping black lives matter. Y'all are sitting here making us look bad. Absolutely. Uh So the first part when it comes where I guess the larger group of the African American uh population, I wouldn't say that we're centrally located because everyone is everywhere at this point. Um, But we started at the courthouse, and the first night of those um of those protests starting out there at the at the courthouse, it was dispersed and um it was it was kind of moved from that point on to other sections of the city. Now, with that being said, I know for a fact there there are people, um, black men black women. Um, not just black women, black men and women, but there are people. For instance, there's a friend of mine, his name is ron Ronnie Brown, and he uh stopped uh one of these agitators from burning down one of the museums. Uh. He is. He's been very very vocal, very very active. Uh. Not just him, but Alvin owens Um who's been very very active as well, uh. Dr Pritchard, um Ray Lopez, all of these different people that I can name, who have literally been giving their souls to this, uh, this movement because we have finally we have the ear of the people outside of Connosha, because this systemic problem has been going on for many, many years. So do you believe that part? Do you believe that what ship? And again, just let me know if this is actually happening um um. Is there a particular group or groups who are saying we're going to take charge of this, meaning we're going to have organized protest, We're gonna say this is where we're meeting, this is the time we're meeting, this is how long we're going to go. Uh. And then that's what the separates from what you're seeing out there, because again, the actions that we're seeing in conno by a lot of these white folks that are being live streamed by other white folks. Uh. For me, I'm so like hell where the black who are live streaming? Uh? And look, I'll be perfect honest with you, I got no problem. Uh you know, you know, you know, we we have a component where we can literally send one of your folks a link where they could actually stream from their Android or their iPhone. So that way that is actually getting out then what we're seeing. And so is there any playing or any effort to say we we are going to take control of this? And so if anybody is doing anything outside of this, they are not having anything to do with us. Absolutely. So UM, I guess to unpack all of that, there are groups. Unfortunately we don't have a larger following because we've got a small city. We're not Milwaukee and we're not Chicago. We're we're between the two. Uh, so our following isn't as as as heavy. But there are people, um, for instance, Jesse Franklin who is UM an activist in Milwaukee. He has come down again. Alvin Owens has been very very vocal um when it comes to organizing. Uh. They they send out direct information to the through social media's and stuff like that, UM, social media apps, and they give you dates times where to actually go when it comes to locations, what we're going to be doing, when it comes to marching, where we're going to be located, how we're going to march, what what the chants are going to be. It's very very militantly organized and for the for the most part, we haven't had any issues when it comes to the peaceful protesters. UM. It's when the lights go out, that's when we have the issues. And and people, unfortunately, people don't want to see the um, the depositive side of the Afrian American community here in Kenosha. Uh. They want to see the other side. UM. And the other side is literally holding onto UM. I guess they're they're they're being put into position where uh, if you can get a couple of few African Americans and a big group of agitators, then they're getting pointed out. And that's to my in my opinion, not fair. Do you do you believe that what we are seeing our folks who are indeed provocateurs, people who are there to do things to to give the protesters. The people who are doing it right a bad image. I've heard that in Portland, UH, and we know in Minneapolis that they were white supremacists who were mixed in. Who are who will call him to Mayhem? Absolutely, I witnessed things myself. I Uh, Penosha isn't that big. I was born raised here have UM, went away for a school and notary and things of that nature or whatever. When I came back, it's still pretty pretty relatively small. But that being said, I know a lot of people. I know familiar faces, I know different faces, and the familiar faces are those who are in the peaceful portion proportions of everything. The people that are coming from out of state, UM, I don't understand why we're even seeing UH license plates that have Washington state. UM. When it comes to our sure, Wisconsin is great, it's amazing. We love the especially the lakefront is amazing. But but I haven't seen it people coming from Utah. People are coming from all these different places and essentially located in the areas where we're having issues. UM. And the problem that we're having is it sucks even more because I have been able to see UH people not being able to hold their opinions on social media and things like that. UM. So, with that being said, I kind of want to bring to uh, the to the forefront when it comes to these agitators. They're burning down the wrong neighborhoods. They are burning things that that are literally for the black community, and and these things in these places I mean from small business owners to UM or black small business owners to uh, displacing kids or minorities period in a specific area. Now, this is not fair because to us, we know better, We know that these areas aren't they're off limits. If you're going to protest this situation, why burned down the same population that represents the the community that you're protesting for. Which gives us and which gives me the opinion that it has to be someone from the outside, because there's no way you should be burning up the Uptown and Commercial because that is our area. So, UM, have you or any of the other black protesters, have you has MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, these networks? Have they reached out to y'all? Because again, if you look at what's being paid now you've got you know, all the candidates who are speaking on what's happening. Both people are demanding uh, folks should be calling folks out for this. You've got, of course, these athletes who are out outrage of what happened with Jacob Blake. But again, I think, just like what we saw in Portland and Seattle in other places, it begins to take this whole turn away. And again, I'm watching these livestreams at night. I'm up till two and three or four o'clock in the morning, and I'm seeing a whole bunch of white people. I'm not seeing I'm seeing maybe one, maybe two black people, but for the most part, I'm seeing nearly all white people. Your your your vision is not flawed. You are seeing exactly what you UM described. To answer earlier question, are they reaching out to us? I believe that they're reaching out to the people who are there for the photo op. Unfortunately, UH, they're there to say that I was in the presence of this guy, that guy in the mayor. UM. Whereas there are people who are who I've named earlier, UM, just a small few who are literally the the people who are UM making the progress that needs to be done and needs to be seen. For instance, UM, we have Frank Nintie who's out of Milwaukee, who's marching to to Washington right now with my with my business manager Billy Violet. They they are marching for this cause and they have had issues and things like that, but I don't know if they have received the national news uh that they actually deserve. So that way we can have these conversations, not just have conversations, but have these conversations directed to a solution. Now, um, I I apologize for talking too much, but now you're fine. You're fine. The solutions are there, um, but no one wants to hear it. For instance, as the founder of the African American Club, UH, it's a it's it's behooves me to believe that there has never been an African American club in the city of Kenosha, the state of Wisconsin, and or the entire United States of America. And with that being said that that hurts my soul because we we have other societies that have these places for African Americans or for their cultures to to to to be developed, or their cultures to be experienced and enjoyed, except for us. So I took it upon myself to um to to start the process of erecting a facility for the African American community and those who would like to uh to to enjoy the culture, to uh learn about the culture, not just the water down slavery conversation of our history. We are we are inventors, we are doctors, we are lawyers, we are Black people are great, and it is up to us to show how great we are. But not just that, but to take ownership of it because our culture is getting appropriated or misappropriated every single day. Things go viral every single day off of black culture. Yet the majority are those who are getting the accolades and things of that nature. So so if there are so to do this, here we have information. If if there are, if any of your people, if they are live streaming, if they lost in New York protest, Uh, I'm going to send our folks, UM, get your information. And then he's what he lives streams. His name is Corey, and Corey is literally the he's the eyes on for us, all right, so so so Corey is the one. So he's shooting and he's live streaming so and and and he's live streaming where Facebook. Um, if I'm not mistaken, he has he has all the social media's and uh, he records he's I mean, he's the one of those skateboarding UM guys, so Laton because he moves around. So here's what's so, here's what we'll do. I will well, we will connect Corey without with with without digital folks. And then that way, uh, when when y'all are protesting, Uh, we can pick that up and actually treatment on all our platforms. I mean I got to two point seven million, and then that way that goes out. And then uh, what's also important, Uh if y'all y'all are sending out where you're protesting in talent information, we can also amplify. We can also amplify that so people know that these are the legitimate protesters. This is what people are there doing. These are folks who have an agenda, who lived there. Uh. And then and it got no And I got no problem calling out other natural immedia saying this is who you all should be talking to. Absolutely, Yeah, I have I have those people's information. You can you can contact me, um, you can contact my business man. But Billy Billy Violet when it comes to all of these things, if I'm not mistaken, Another big one is going to be Saturday at two pm. Two pm at the Civic Park uh. And that's going to be right across the street from the courthouse, and that is going to be us uh. So and then those people whatever who understand that the peaceful protesting it works, and we were here for so um but yeah, like I said, it's it's their route. There. There are things that are in the works um uh to to kind of change the narrative, um or to actually just change the narrative, especially when it comes to our our community being here, coming here, uh, coming back here. I observe that there's nothing for us to do, nothing for us to have or call our own. And again that's the reason why I like to plug the After American Club. Donations are going to be there. Go to the After American Club dot com. Uh. You can call me back uh if you have any questions or anything like that at eight six six five eighteen sixty five or eight six six b l K eighteen sixty five to get an idea of what the After American Club is, what we are, what we're planning as a as a social club as well as a business incubator, so that way we can harbor, infestor or and boster those those black owned businesses and Black owned community. Um, inside of the African American Club, tagline Stronger Together, tagline black Wall Street Connosha. All right, well look I would have my bookers in an email get information so we can push it out and amplify that. Kennell, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you so much, sir. All right, thank you very much, bringing my pound out the grad cards here the Department of Afril American Studies, how University re cee Covert Black Women's Vivas. Erica Savage Wilson host Savage Politics podcast. Greg. I'll start with you. Bottom line is this is why you have to have again independent black media because again, what we are seeing every night, we're seeing white folks out there protesting in the streets. We're seeing them uh burn stuff up. You hear his brother saying, no, I'm from here. That is not us, and that has to be stipulated so folks understand really what's happening, of course, brother Um, and yes it is no question everything uh supportive force, brother West and everything he's saying. I think we have to be very careful though. Um. There is no standard that black people can meet in this country that would satisfy our open enemies. There is no respectable level of protests. There is no uh refraining from breaking windows or anything else that would stop these people. Kyle Rittenhouse is a white terrorist, and so are the police every week, including connotion. They gave him wade a bottle. He's got his long rightfuay over there talking and this this boy goes over here and starts his murder rampage. And we saw that he would be rewarded if he wasn't arrested. He'd be like Marken Patrician mcplosky at the Terrorists National Convention this week. He would be given a medal, he would be given a platform. My point is this, brother Kendall can try to educate all the wants. You go back to the Atlanta Insurrection of nineteen o six. Dr D Boys was like and living in Atlanta saying, I think the world is just thinking wrong about race. And then they lunched a black man and stuck his knuckles in the butcher shop window put them on display. My point is this, there is no way to convince these white nationalist terrorists that we deserve to be human. The only thing they are going to respect is when we break their backs through economics, through politics, through organizing, and those white people who don't want to be on the wrong side of history need to join us. But it ain't about how many windows you shattered, or whether you shattered them or not. As Charles Blow said in New York Times yesterday, their job is to spread confusion and obscure reality. They have a reality and they're gonna stick to that. I don't give a damn if we all marched in line, Siddly and ain't break nothing. That's not the issue. I see. Here's the deal Erica. I don't My deal is not um making even making them comfortable and say, oh no, no, we're all peaceful. The issue for me is I want to make sure that black people are the ones who are getting the attention emin and are speaking into the issues in Kenosha and not have national media just show these images of a bunch of white folks running around and as you heard Kendall say, they're looking at the license plates. These look the white boy. Kyle Rittenhouse was from Illinois. He said, we got white folks who are coming in from all these other parts of the country, which says they're not local, and so what they're doing is just running to the next hot spot, bringing all their mayhem, acting a fool and there needs to be somebody saying, no, no, no, no, Where are the people who are from here, who are gonna be living here when these foods move on to the next hot spot. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Roland. And you know we've seen this in the cause that Nika Mallory and Linda Sars have taken up in Louisville, Kentucky. UM. I saw Facebook videos of white domestic terrorists a k A. Militia groups that were occupying the areas with which they are protesting. UM. They were recording license plates and they were actually giving reporting live hour by hour of what the activity was against what they consider to be radical black and brown people. So, you know, I I do agree with what Dr Carr said around UM. You know, there's no way that a black person can comport themselves uh to really gain um, some level of sympathy or understanding or empathy UM or really kind of alignment with what's right. But also UM to your point Roland, about assuring that people that are on the ground, organizing and doing the work are the folks that are talked with and connected to because we've seen Turk recalls so successfully with his white Terrorists campaign. UM continue to live forward UM and play sympathy around Kyle, who is in fact a white domestic terrorists UM. But so that's why platforms like this UM are of the utmost importance, and that honestly, it is up to the audience to really kind of share out this platform in a much more meaningful way because even though you know, mainstream media is very much so prominent, digital is taking over. And so again we are in this new era of civil rights and it definitely is going to require that all of us get involved, not just a few people, but all of us. The key here recy is making sure black people stay centered because see again what what what what happens in in this and we see it. It's already happened. Jacob Blake gets shot seven times in the back on Sunday around five pm. All of a sudden, you have protests, and then and then you have all of a sudden on Tuesday, white boy loses his mind, comes with a gun, he kills two people, both white, shoots a third person who's also white. So all of a sudden, now the conversation is actually a white supremacist who fires his gun, who shot three white people in the midst of that has nothing to do with the actions of Kenosha, Wisconsin and how they treated this black man. And so I think, what what always has to happen And it was the same thing that happened in Portland when we had the folks on with uh the uh the vote Wall group. My whole deal is that's where the messaging has to go out where black folks say, Hey, that bullshit that ain't us. So don't y'all come here talking about black lives matter and talking about black people. No, no no, no, go get y'all white folks who are over the act of the fool that's not us. Yeah, I mean Rolland I do agree with you in the sense of how these um movements tend to be gentrified in Columbus by white agitators. And you know, they do manage to slip in the white supremacists and white nationalists and the white domestic tears like Kyle Rittenhouse. And actually I wouldn't even call that slipping in because here you have the Conocia police and tanks for peaceful protesters that are lollygagging and handing out water to armed domestic terror exactly exactly. So I I but I I still tend to side with Dr corm this. This is not about respectability. This isn't even about order in terms of peaceful protesting. The order is about the social order, the social order of white supremacy, and that welcomes violence, whether it's white victims or black victims. If you're standing on the opposite side of that white supremacist social order, then you're collateral damage and the person who kills you as a white terrorist becomes a martyr. On Fox News, Tuckle Carlston and Culture and all those other degenerates. And so I don't think that it's a matter of how we comport ourselves as um Eric also said, I think it's more of a matter of the media doing what they want to do, and as black people, we have a duty to do what your show was doing, which is centering the black voices, not for the sake of saying, look, how respectable we are, but for the sake of making sure that our issues are centered. The fact that Jacob Blake is can cuffed to a bed, what crime did he even commit? And and the and the cops will not say why he is handcuffed. And so I I just think that again, while these things are happening, um is, we have to make sure good. Look, we know how mainstreaming is gonna play the game. Okay, we know they follow the mayhem. All right, you set it on fire, shots fired, they're showing up. You got a peaceful protest where they're talking about issues. They're not They're not there. And so my, my whole deal is, we've got to make sure that when these things happen, we are constantly centering that because when they this is all look about the control of the narrative. That is bottom line, you controling. When they take the narrative, then that thing is just gone and as hard as hell to rain that thing back. And so that's one of the things that we hope to see right there, speaking of my control of the narrative, we're seeing this right now. Of course with the NBA, the pro strike that took place as well, NBA players have players to resume the season. The plans were confirmed today by two people who are part of the discussions, who spoke on condition of annemity because talks were ongoing about several details, including when to return to play. Then the athletes protests began, going to walk out with the Milwaukee Bucks players leading to the NBA to postpone all the playoff games. Will actually know the NBA didn't postpone Jack the Milwaukee Bucks in Lando Orlando Magic said we ain't playing, and then the Houston Rockets and okay see Thunder said we ain't playing, and Lakers in the Portland said we're not playing. NBA had no choice. Then, of course, what we also saw. We saw that there were uh five major league soccer games. There were baseball games not played, involving the involving the Milwaukee Brewers. Also uh, the w n b A players said they're not gonna play. In fact, the w n b A released their statement three games that were scheduled tonight are not going to be played as well. Not only that, the Oakland A's dropped this statement. Go to my iPad. The Oakland A's organization fully supports our players, the athletes across Major League MLB, NBA, w n b A, MLS, and the black community and the historic efforts to end racial violence and inequality. We stay with our players and drawing attention to the racial injustice facing the Black community in our country. We will continue to amplify our players voices and voices within the Black community in Oakland and to use our platforms and resources in service of real change. And so that was the Oakland A's UH that dropped that statement. Now remember that was from the That statement was actually from UH from the team. This is the statement that was released by the players. Social injustice and systemic racism have been part of a fabric of our lives for too long. We have a responsibility to use our platform to lend their voices for those who are not being heard. We need to continue having the uncomfortable conversations and work towards being a unified force for change. These conversations will push the boundaries and enable us to come through on the other side with impactful results. All too often we hear about the plight of our fellow man and failed to act. It is long past due that these communities are being heard, seen, understood, and supported. We will not take the field tonight to help raise awareness for these social issues, not just tonight, but for our collective future. This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for a meaningful change now be there's a diversity alliance in hockey. They are calling on the National Hockey League to actually suspend all playoff games. This is the Milwaukee Bucks with their statement last night. Well, um, as you can see, we all thank you guys for taking a hill of your time to stay here with us. I'm sorry that it took a little bit more time, but we thought it would be best for us as a team to brainstorm a little bit, educate ourselves, um and not rushing to having wrong emotions, giving you guys things like that. So on the behalf of ourselves and our team, we we go to place a statement as a team today and go back and continue to educate ourselves and getting better awardeness of what's going on. And then we got speak to you guys later, so we'll come up with a statement then our team statement. The past four months, I've shared a light on the ongoing racial injustice facing our African American community. Citizens around the country of you their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings. Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin, we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Laith being shot in the back seven times by police officer Kenosha and the additional shooting of protesters. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, So our focus today cannot be on basketball. When we take the court and represent Milwaukee in Wisconsin, we are expected to play at a high level, give maximum effort to hold each other accountable. We hold ourselves to that standard, and in this moment, we are demanding the same from lawmakers and law enforcements. We're calling for justice for Jacob Blake and demand the officers be held accountable. For this to occur, it is imperative for the Wisconsin State Legislator to reconvene after months of inaction and take up meaningful measures to address issues of police accountability, brutality, and criminal justice reform. We encourage all citizens to educate themselves, take peaceful and responsible action, and remember to vote on November third, when they happen to the welcome bucks. You tend to finish the season all right, folks. Again, supportive confidence walkout has come from even former NBA players. Here's Chris Chris Webber, a longtime player in the NBA now an announcer for T n T. For no change tomorrow. We know vote, we keep hearing vote, everybody vote. But I'm here to speak for those that are always marginalized, those that live in these neighborhoods where we preach and telling the vote and walk away. Charles Barkley came to my high school. Just seeing him in the locker room, seeing his hands and his body. That inspired me. You can't see something, you can't be something until you see it. And when I tell you the little kids that have called me up that I have a god son, it has autism and I just had to explain to him why we aren't playing. I have young nephews I've had to talk to about death before they've even seen it in a movie. If not now, when, if not during a pandemic and countless lives being lost, If not now, when that's that's all I just want to hear. From the rest of the night, where everybody is pontificating and thinking and soapboxing and all of that, we know nothing is gonna change. We get it. Martin Luther King got shot him, risked his life. Meca. Ever, as if we've seen this in all of our heroes constantly taken down, we understand it's not gonna end. But that does not mean, young men, that you don't do anything. Don't listen to these people telling you don't do anything because it's not going to end right away. You were starting something for the next generation and the next generation to take over. Do you have to be smart, yes. Do you have to make sure that you have a plan. Yes. Do you have to be articulate about that plan. Yes, all of those things. But that's what you're gonna do. Their professionals, they know how to be the best of themselves, and so I applauded. I applauded because it is the young people. It is the young people leading the way, and I applaud him. Tennant star Dambi Olasaki pull out of her semifinals match, tweeting before I am an athlete, I'm a black woman, and as a black woman, I feel as though there are much more important matters at hand that need immediate attention rather than watching me play tennis. Also a head coaches and executives from Cleveland from Cleveland sports teams, the Cavaliers, Browns, and Indians are forming a sports alliance to develop a sustainable and direct strategy to address social injustice. Facing the city of Cleveland, all of northeast Ohio joining me right now, folks, is Craig Hodges, a longtime NBA players, someone who was very much involved in activism while he was in the league. Craig, Welcome to Rolling Martin unfiltered. Craig, are you there? Craig? Are you there? All right? Folks? Let me know, we have the audio for Craig. Let me know when he's there, Uh, so I can go to him. Let me go to my panel. Uh, Erica. Uh, We've never seen this level of collective action in sports, So we have Craig. So, Craig, are you there? Can you hear me? Yeah? Now we got your Craig, Now we got you, Uh, Craig, Craig, We've never seen We've never seen this, guys. Thank you. We've never seen this level of uh collective action in sports. And uh ever to see the actions of players in NBA, soccer, baseball, tennis, hockey. Just your thoughts of what you're seeing. Well, first of all, brother, I want to thank God for you and giving us a venue that is true and correct. And you know right now is historic times. Man. So when I look at it, it's a spiritual blessing that's going on, man, And I truly feel that finally the light is being shared on you know, people that have sojourned and in this land for a long time. And to see the young brother stuff up yesterday and to see people around the world and other athletes pay acknowledgement to our ancestors legacy. Man, it's it's a beautiful thing for me. And now it's about now, I believe, now when the work really begins, because we're it's a paradigm shift and that old reality there's no longer lives. So now we have to create that new reality. And and it's a it's a nice challenge for us as black men and you know, for our the entirety of our community. When you speak to we talked about that particularly issue that so for instance, the players, the players themselves have made it perfectly clear uh in the NBA that they want to do more. That they were on a call with UH with with the owners and making it perfectly clear. I was also reading one story, UH that I found to be interesting, where Michael Jordan's when you played with the Chicago on the on the Charlotte Hornets. Uh. He told the NBA. He said, hey to the owners, listen, listen to them before we start talking um. And and now the owners are realizing that there's gonna have to be more that they do as well. I just got got a statement that was sent out UM by the Baltimore Ravens. Guys go to that. In this statement, the Baltimore Ravens UH say, uh, though we cannot right all the wrongs of our country's history, we can arrest in charge the police officers responsible for Brianna Taylor's killing and the shooting on Jacob Blake. Demand that Senator Mitch McConnell bring the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act to the Senate floor in qualified immunity, required body cameras, band chokeholes, and no knock warrants, whole police accountable in court, establish a framework to prohibit racial profiling, and federal, state and local levels support state and fairly funded uh C A elia A credit should the national standards of care and policing. I think, Craig, when you have all of a sudden owners who are going to realize we have no product without the players, we have no choice but to ride with them. Because the last thing we want is for more of them to say we're not playing, you know, And that's that's Um, that's the dilemma that we have a choice to make. Right now. We have a choice to create a whole new paradigm where it's going to be true ownership sharing, where no longer is gonna be just an elite class of people that own brothers and and have a U. Now is the time for us to sit down as the collective and decide what direction we want to go as stats, entertainers or whatever venue or perspectible in life time to children, total line to be you know, solidly with your people, man, because Nord, I mean history is like because well Nick King called diplomacy and I know when I look at lebrons Um Jana Sutra, Chakumpo, Kevin Durant, I know who we are and I know that this is the generation of fulfillment. So what we're saying the redemption of the people, and it's never been seen in people eyes, especially us who have built everything under the sun. Um, what would be your advice moving forward? Because obviously players are saying we want something to happen. Uh, you have other people who are saying shut up in dribble and so if you if you were talking to them, if they reached out to you. I know that they've reached out to Dwyane Wade and a former players things like that. What would you be advising them as somebody who listens to be real honest, your career ended early because of your activism, right, So for me, when I look at it, they never should have went to the bubble. And you know, no one real, no one will take us serious until we show that we're serious, and we stopped playing games. So for me, when when they blacklisted me in I realized why it was and I realized that now why it is that Michael Jordan is the lead. I understand why Last Dance came out when it and did we have to realize why these things are happening on the corporate level and to realize that who was really on our team? And then you know, I look at them, j Okay, I love you brother and what you're doing. But at the same time, where you've been, you know, so it can't be no Johnny comp lately thing where I'm at, because right now is the most critical point in the history of our people and this nation. So it ain't let me say this Roland to everybody that's listening if we don't realize who sisters are right now, and that I want to apologize to all the sisters that's in the side of my voice and that's seeing me right now that I'm I'm apologizing that I didn't do more with what I could have done when I played, to be able to garner the unity that is necessary in this damn time, to prove to the creator that we deserve divine inheritance, because what you're seeing is a divine inheritance that's coming our way, and now all we have to prove us through unity and love. So I grew up. I'm a baby of the movement, and I I tell my people that we were taught. I love rolling more than love rolling could ever love me. And if we're rolling like that, it ain't never gonna be where I'm gonna pick up a beef with my brother, I'm gonna pick up a weapon that didn't come from me. I'm gonna pick up something that's gonna harm my people. So when I look at this game, we cannot continue to play games until they're no, We're serious. And then I went to thing where if they don't want to make a new collective bargaining agreement, let's walk away. We're eight the product. The last point here I've been sleeve. This is not ending. I got these people who are saying all the players that that they're jumping on this thing. We don't have all the facts. I've had some other people hitting me and I said, guys, they're not striking because of just Jacob Blake. It is this is compound. This is item after item after item that this is what they've said. No, we are not going to use our collective voice to say hell no. And y'all gotta pay attention because if you're watching us play, and if we're not playing endy wise, if you listen to us and and and quite honestly, brother, you know when when George Floyd was murdered Steven Jackson, and it was it was a swell of energy similar to the Doctor King energy time. So we are we got an energy point spiritually that nobody can put a post to, nobody can put a finger on. But we who have been around to see that it's the time, it's time and place for karma, and it's a divine karma to this thing that's coming that you know, some battles ain't even ours. The battles that that are are those that we have control over. We have controltrol over whether or not we go play. And so many times, to me, it's a cowardly move when we go down to the bubble. To me, when I look at the sisterhood, when I look at the sisters in the w n b A, when I look at the sister osaka the tennis player man, the courage involved in that, and I'm saying, come on, brothers, at which point in time are we gonna say we can do? The only thing that the owners provide for us is an infrastructure to play in. That's it. We got the brightest, We got the brightest people on the planet. And our women who can do pay roll, who can do scheduling, who can do uniforms, and can do everything else. So of course the NBA is gonna give a little bit and then bring Michael to the forefront. Michael can't do that. And I'm telling you that I'm older than you are you and not tell try to calm this energy among my young brothers, because it ain't it ain't on you to do that you and don't and don't bring out none of none of the people that you bought out when it was that Donald Sterling garment because within the context of this racial thing going on within the NBA, they sold They wasn't woke when my brother Mike moved up doing what I wanted to say. It's a lot. You wouldn't woke when Craig Hodges went to the White House and tell President Bush the same things. People crying about it today, but we couldn't cry but nine murders in the city of Chicago in where we went in our first raging. We want to go smoke cigars and pop champagne bottles while people are dying. It's over for that. And and check this out, brothers, all of this happening in the height of truck being nominated again. I love it. I love it because it's a spiritual transition that has happening and it ain't no financial transaction. Brothers. So y'all got a choice right now. Choose your people over them trinkets that you think our will because what Lord has for us in divine inheritance is beyond your imagination. And that little four hundred millions ain't nothing, brother, So wake up to who you are in the power that you possess, so that our sisters will respect us once again. And they don't have they have no reason to at this point in time. If we don't prove the righteous that we're ready to lay it on a fine for them and our children, period. Craig Hodges, I appreciate a man. Thank you so very much. Thank you brother one love. This is uh. I mean this, this is a true reckording grad card that we're seeing not just in the NBA but across sports. Not yet, but we're a little closer. As I'm listening to our brother, I was reminded of his book Long Shot. His memoir. At the end of that book, he talks about being allowed to defend his three point championship even though he would know he was no longer in the league, and he talks about Charles Barkley meeting him at All Star weekend of Utah and over and saying, I know what you're going through, brother, and Craig Hodges like, well, if you know what I'm going through, you need to speak up for me, and he said nothing. He ends Long Shot his memoir by saying that these as long as these brothers were in this bubble to use the langues using today, you know they had They didn't have to prove they were men because they were treated as if they were men because they were generating a product. And so he's absolutely right. Lizbeth Williams, who was the secretary of w NBA Players Association at Atlanta Dream, was saying, we had to make this stand all of a sudden. Naomi Osaka is black. She was Japanese until she decided she wasn't gonna play. Because now she's speaking for herself, she says, that's a black woman. Her had her family's station. So I mean, you see this coming up. But when I say we're not there yet, we've seen this before. It took a It took a bloody civil war for this country to finally come to grip with getting rid of chattel, enslavement, direct slavery, and then for a couple of years it was reconstruction, as we always talk about, but then there was the white lash. What we're seeing from white corporate America is not a concession. It's an attempt to contain and maintain control. That's why I just just said what he said then that you know that this is the white lash, this is the redemption moment. This country will only be transformed when like Lebron in them and the white girl tried to clown him. What did you get from thought about it through Malcolm Mack? I think Leron must have been reading that book because he said we shouldn't play anymore, and then the Lakers and the Clippers say we shouldn't play anymore. And when you start hearing that kind of conversation, that's when we will be indeed in a paradigm ship. We're not quite at a paradigm shift right now because this they're trying to still contain this because they understand once that paradigm shift, it's never going back. But the thing that we were seeing here Erica, and not just with them saying we're striking from the game, but we're also seeing is that when you look at what Lebron and others are doing when it comes to raising the money to pay off the debts, for the for the for the brothers and sisters to get the right to vote back in Florida, when you see them launching this initiative to get young folks to work to polls on election day. What you're what you're seeing is and I totally understand what Craig how does this saying, but I think it behooves us to also remember, Craig how does this talking about what happened in nine we're now talking about this is eighteen years later, meaning it's a whole new generation has come about this group of athletes. They're not Michael Jordan's Magic Johnson and those players. This is also a different So I think that that also plays a huge role in there's in terms of what they're seeing. And we cannot overlook Colin Kaepernick in seen because if we also then really unpack this thing, the black athlete who's in the NBA today, who's twenty five, remember he was seventeen with Trayvonne got killed. See all of these things. I think that will happened in the last eighteen years plays a huge role. And I think while we were seeing a different response where yeah, Craig Hodness was all alone when he when he was doing he was doing Erica. Yeah, sure, Roland, I think that's because there was not a real aggressive continuum. So now what we're all feeling is in somewhat kind of complacency that is ruled the day for many, many years. UM on the backdrop of all of the different um violence mechanisms that we've seen against black bodies, they've never stopped. They continued. And then when we think about the w n B A, we think about Maya Moore, whom rocked away so that she could continue to advocate for a black man who had been unjustly locked up for over twenty years. You know, it just kind of all depends on almost you know, where the spotlight is and then that is kind of seawan shine more brightly than it is in other spaces. But I think kind of like in the hour of where we are right now, one of the things that Mr Hodge said that I definitely can appreciate is that in essence, because of all of these different atrocities that have continued to happen to black life, that it would have been um a real stand to say, no, we're not going in the bubble at all. That being that the league, the NBA, is over eight black and they actually have power because most people that watch the game, if they're honest, they're looking to see the swag that a w n B A and NBA player has so when we kind of, you know, kind of peeled back and to use brother Hodge's words when he talked about it is not about smoking these cigars and popping champagne. It really has not been about that. But we're in this pandemic moment. We're in this economic collapse, we are in a housing um crisis. We are now are seeing that this son of a klansman has said that he is going to do his due diligence to ensure that the vote is the vote is actually held up suppressed and read that he's going to do that by any means necessary. To say that this is a time to pause to assess everything. In great that the efforts that they continue to push, but more needs to be done. But here's but here's the deal. Here's the deal right here. Re see, first of all, it was twenty eight years since Craig Hodges and so you've got guys right now in the league who weren't even born when Craig Hodges was being was whiteballed by by the NBA. But but what I am but what I am um hopeful of it's when you see a Kenney steals go from the Panthers to the Texans and he's still involved. He was there when he got arrested. He was a rusted with Jamika Mallory and until freedom. When you're seeing that, you're seeing you. You are seeing a different level of consciousness from these players and what we've seen before, because before it was a few. Now it's a lot more. And I think as we continue, as they continue to get more educated, more connected with the information, and the money has also changed. I mean, we gotta put that out there as well. You got a cat. Now by the time they finished their first contract, they got ten twelve, twenty million they've made and so the money also changes the ability to be able to determine you use your voice. Yeah, I mean I I give a lot of credits to the NBA and w NBA players because, to be honest, I mean, being on social media, you see a lot of black people who make every excuse to do just even the bare minimum of voting. And so these people are putting their lively as down the lines and they don't have actually any direct impact on Mitch McConnell, are on the Wisconsin legislator, but the legislature, but they are still taking a very strong stance, and I applaud them for that, and I do applau that they are encouraging more civic engagement. And I think that that's really the takeaway for me is that this isn't saying we are martyrs in this situation and we alone can fix it. What they're saying is, let's all stop, take a pause and really recognize the severity of this situation and how we can be engaged and how we can be involved. You know, I mean, I I applaud with brother I just said as well, and I applaud the stand that he took. But I also do see that these that these NBA players and w NBA players and Naomi Socca and others are doing something very powerful in this moment, and in particular when we have the Republican National Convention that for the past three days has created this alternate reality in which the boogeymen are not the police who are gunning down black people, but the ones who are actually protesting for a better America. You know, they made out Corey Bush, who won her who want the primary challenge against Lacey Clay, as an enemy of the state. And it's it's absolutely ridiculous. So I think that the timing of them making this very strong stance does help to shift the narrative. It does help to shake the consciousness to the extent that that's even possible in this country. And um, I applaud them. I don't think it's I don't think that they have any more responsibility than we do that we excuse ourselves out of doing every day collectively as a society. Everybody, my hats offered to them. Everybody has a role. Tomorrow, folks of the anniversary, the Marching Washington for Jobs and Freedom taking place uh here in Washington, d C. They'll be gathering at the at the Lincoln Memorial. There will be a march from Linko Memorial to the m OK Memorial. It will also be a love stream and virtual will be carrying it as well. Join me right now to the folks, gonna be speaking to make a turner. She is the widow of Race Shard Brooks, an attorney Chris Steward to make and Chris clad to how you roller markin unfiltered? Uh to mareak of you there? Yeah, I'm here, got you, Okay, make sure you can hear me. So tomorrow you'll be speaking tomorrow. Um, what do you want the people who are going to be there in person and the folks who are going to be there virtually, what do you want them? Not just to take away from what you're gonna say, what do you want them to do? I'm pretty much I want them to, uh just stand up for justice and continue you know, peaceful protests and now on that go out and vote so that laws can be changed and there can be reformed within policing. Chris Stewart, when you talk about that, I mean, look, you see the pushback when officers were fired there in Atlanta involving the case of Richard Brooks, but also those two students who were snatched out of their car from more House and spellmen. You have these cops who fight back and forth. I mean, look, these are entrenched institutions and it's gonna take sustained action. Yeah. I mean people have to realize, I mean me and you've been talking about these cases since Walter Scott um and getting changes hard. I mean, the unions are a very strong factor and a very strong force behind a lot of these police departments. Um, and we have to look past just the comp who killed somebody. We've got to look at the chief and the internal affairs department, UM, and the union. I mean you have to look at the entire system. UM, tamaka we have obviously. I mean, you know you're part of a group. UM. Some call it the lack of better phrase. They say, um uh sorority a group of women who mothers of the movement, whise of the movement, who have had to to publicly deal with grief. Uh. In is high profile cases. UM. How have you had? How have you dealt with that? Uh? This is not something that you asked for. No one asked to be put in this situation. Correct, You're right about that. UM. It's hard dealing with it, It really is. It becomes emotional roller coaster each and every day because you want to be strong and you also don't want people to think you weak. So sometimes it's hard when I want to get very emotional and cry, and I have to hold it in so that I can continue, like how I'm doing speaking with you to get my point and my word across, so that justice can be serving that I'm heard clearly, UM and uh. And we talk about you know, speaking that out. But the other thing is the reality that you gotta continue to relive it. And and then the other pieces though, is that if you don't tell the story, we know that the family UH puts a face on it as opposed to no disrespect to Chris and his law partner. But the reality is that's that's how people see it, is that they want to hear from the family. So you have to continue to UH to be there speaking and talking about it, right. And that's what's really hard. I mean, it's it's really hard. It becomes overwhelming, but it's something that I have to do. If I don't do it, who will, Um? Chris? Someone are you and Justin Miller? Um? When we talk, when we talk about next steps, when we talk about man, when is this thing going to end? Um? And I hate to say it, but look, black folks have been dealing with this UH for decades, for centuries, Um, But do you think that we're operating in a different moment now we're one far more African Americans electric position, far more African Americans who are d a s UH. And so you now have black faith folks who are who are a part of this system, who are now inside, who say not only now, only can we affect this externally, but not to get affected internally. Yeah, there are there are more now, um, but we're still seeing the same things. And and like to Mika said, we just have to keep on pushing and keep keep on putting that energy out there so that if people know that until real change happens, then we'll be doing this until two you know, two thousand thirty. Um. The qualified immunity, immunity reforms, the reforms to the way police uh don't de escalate situations and use lethal force when it's not necessary are things that we cannot stop fighting for. And if they don't happen, then we're just gonna keep going. So right now, I'd say, yes, it is a different situation than it is in the sixties, but it's not good enough to where we can let up at one bit. Absolutely. Chris final comment, Chris, finally, Yeah, I mean we just gotta keep it going, man, like even you know, you continue to push this, all the media, continue to push this, the celebrities coming forward and using economic power, which is the quickest way to change. Um. Marches are great, but when companies start losing money, UM, then that's where change is gonna start. Happening because they will start pressuring those police departments. UM, so just keep pushing, well, um to make a turner safe travels for you to watch in DC tomorrow, saying for you Chris Stewart as well. We'll be there live streaming the events tomorrow, and we thank you very much for joining us. All Right, all right, folks, thank you so very much. Gotta go to a break. When we come back, we'll talk about economics. What happens when black people do what they're supposed to do, buying a home, all those good things, and then white folks decide to undercut the value of their home. Will talk to a sister who saw it happen with her very own eyes, and she will explain what happened when she got rid of all of her black stuff. It's amazing how the number just increased. And Nicki Haley says, you died dealing with racism in America. M hmm, you're watching Rollanmartin unfilter. Do you want your gout Rollobo un filter YouTube dot com, Ford slash rolland s Martin subscribe to our YouTube channel. There's only one daily digital show out here that keeps it black and keep it real. It's Rollombo Unfiltered. Shed name right there, Rollan Martin Unfiltered, like Share, subscribe to our YouTube channel as YouTube dot com, Ford, slash rolland s Martin and don't forget to turn your notifications so when we go live you'll know it. The community comes together to support the fight against racial injustice. I want to take a second to talk about one thing we can do to ensure our voices are heard. Not tomorrow, but now, have your voices heard in terms of what kind of future we want by taking between twenty cents. It's today at twins dot gov and folks, let me help you. The census is account of everyone living in the country. It happens once every teen years. It is mandated by the U s Constitution. The thing that's important is that the census informs funding billions of dollars how they are spent in our communities every single year. I grew up in Clinton Park in Houston, Texas, and we want to We wanted new parks and roads and Senior citizens Center. With the census helps inform all of that and where funding goes. It also determines how many seats your state will get in the US House representatives. 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I'm Jack Brewer, a former three time NFL team captain, college professor, coach, husband, son, and father. I'm also a lifelong Democrat, but I support Donald Trump. Let me be clear, I didn't come here for the popularity or the praise, the likes, or the retweets. I'm here as a servant to God, a servant to the people of our nation, and a servant to our President. I grew up in Gray Vne, Texas, a town that my great grandfather was the first black man to settle as a share cropper in e My early high school experience included fighting with skin heads and being in witness in an attempt to murder trial after my friends shot a skin head in self defense. I remember my dad's bravery when he personally stood up against a KKK rally in my town. In my house, my father taught me to back down from no one. I know what racism looks like. I've seen the first hand in America. It has no resemblance to President Trump, and I'm fed up with the way he's portrayed in the media, who refused to acknowledge what he's actually done for the black community. It's confused in the minds of our innocent children. Before I left the come deliver this message, my energetic eight year old son, Jackson, stopped me and said, Dad, can you please just tell everyone that all lives need to matter and that God loves everyone. In that moment, I realized that my eight year old had figured out with so many adults have seemed to forget, we are not as divided as our politics suggest. At some point, for the sake of our children, the policies must take priority over the personalities. So because you have an issue with President Trump's tone, you're going to allow Biden and Harris to the to the NYE are underserved black and brown children's school choice always so offended by the President's campaign slogan make America Great Again, that we're going to ignore that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have collectively been responsible for locking up countless black men for non violent crimes. Are you going to allow the media the lot of you by fall see claiming that he said there were very fine white supremacis in Charlottesville, He didn't say that. It's a lie, And ignore the so called Black Lives Matter organization that openly on their website called for the destruction of the nuclear family. My fellow Americans, our families need each other. We need black fathers in the homes with their wives in children. The future of our communities depend on it. I'm blessed to be able to run inner city youth programs into also teach in prisons across America. The inmates in my federal prison program literally received days off their sentence just for attending my class, and that stinks to President Donald Trump in his first step back. I am Clarence Henderson. There have been movements that have changed the course of history. Among the most extraordinary was a civil rights movement sixty years ago. Segregation was legal and enforce The simple act of sitting at a lunch counter could lead to physical harm, jail time, or worse, I know from personal experience, by sitting down to order a cup of coffee. We challenged injustice. We knew it was necessary, but we didn't know what would happen. We faced down the KKK. We were cursed at and called all kinds of names. They threatened to kill us, and some of us were arrested, but it was worth it. Our actions inspired similar protests throughout the South against racial injustice, and in the end, segregation was abolished and our country moved a step closer to true equality for all. That's what actual peaceful protests can accomplish. America isn't perfect we're always improving. But the great thing about this country is that it's not where you come from, it's where you're going. And am the only one out of my immediate family who graduated from college and HBCU. I'm a military veteran and a civil rights activist. And you know what else, I'm a Republican and I support Donald Trump. If that sounds strange, you don't know your history. It was the Republican party that passed the thirteenth Amendment abolished in slavery. It was a Republican party that passed the fourteenth Amendment giving black men citizenship. It was a Republican party that passed the fifteenth Amendment giving black men the right to vote. All right, and here's Mike Pens. We've seen violence and chaos in the streets of our major cities. President Trump and I will always support the right of Americans to peaceful protests. The rioting and looting is not peaceful protest. Tearing down statues is not free speech, and those who do so will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Last week, Joe Biden didn't say one word about the violence and chaos engulfing cities across this country. So let me be clear, the violence must stop, whether in Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha. Too many heroes have died defending our freedom to see Americans strike each other down. We will have law and order on the streets of this country for every American of every race and creed and color. Joe Biden says that America is systemically racist and that law enforcement in America as and I quote an implicit bias against minorities. When asked whether he'd support cutting funding law enforcement, Joe Biden replied, yes, absolutely, Joe Biden would double down on the very policies that are leading to violence in America's cities. The hard truth is you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America. And under President Trump, we will always stand with those who stand on the thin blue line, and we're not going to defund the police, not now, not ever. He had damn thing and that's sorry ass speech where he talked about seven shots in the back of Jacob Blake out of here, damn thing, uh Erica when it came to when it came to uh anything about the cops nil. On the next see his the deal all that Lettle nonsense, then, Charles Henderson, Look, you could have been in the nineteen and sixties, six and sixty city in all of that. But he was lying last night when he said Donald Trump is fully funded. HBCUs, that's just a lie. It's a flat out live and you know you gotta be it's gotta be real bad for you to skip over the last fifty years and you got to go back to the eighteen hundreds to figure out what Republicans have done. Erica gone right ahead, Well, Roland, I think that the reason why we didn't hear any of those um you know, anything um related to Jacob Blake is because we saw a clan rally. And so why would you hear any type of remorse um over the shooting of Jacob Blake. Why would you hear any empathy for the family for Jacob Blake, whose life has been drastically changed at only twenty nine years old. That this young man has had his intestines and his colon removed, and, as you reported at the top of the show, is now being handcuffed by a slave patrol member. You're not gonna hear that, particularly when they're telegraphing this maskless, disgusting message from Fort Henry, Maryland, which is uh, the home of many Confederate statues. So you know, everything that we heard is definitely in lockstep with the regime leader, the son of a klansman. So he wasn't talking to a diverse group. He's talking to the same person that ensured that brown immigrants and their children, their babies were locked in cages. He's talking to the same group that feels them as though assimilation is the best way to be connected. And that's for that tope in crowd. This was not a message for America. This was a message for white America, for those who can now boldly really move forward. And UM have this kind of coded message that says that well, because they do in fact stand for law enforcement, particularly not around UH. This so called UM president who has been using the Constitution as toilet paper since he actually walked into office. We're talking about a person that UM was impeached by the House for obstructing Congress, UM and for abuse against this government, for against this country, that the Senate, which has led by Republicans, refused to impeach, and when in fact, Mitch McConnell went on Hannity and said in December of twenty nineteen that they were in concert with the White House and that they were going to do everything that was possible to ensure that the President was in fact acquitted, so to speaking, I'm paraphrase a bit, but all of that to say, this was really par for the course, UM, especially from Mike Pence and from UM to those individuals that were gathered there racing gone gonehead, well gone ahead with gone ahead, I mean, We're not safe in Trump's America. So this whole notion that all of the ship that we're seeing right now and Donald Trump's America is what we have to be afraid of. And Joe Biden, Kamala Harris is America now, and these quizzling negroes that they put out there to say stupid things like all lives matter are I don't know racism and I don't see racism and Donald Trump, have you not seen how this person has operated. We don't have to just listen to what Donald Trump says, which is incredibly racist. We've actually seen the way Donald Trump has governed for the past four years almost and so this is not a hypothetical, This is not an academic exercise. This is what we've seen every single day from this white nationalist administration. And so for Mike Pantist up there and talk about law and order, the Trump administration is a crime syndicate. I truly believe that we're looking at rigo charges for all of these people in the Trump administration and the Trump family once they leave office and they investigate all of the things that they've been doing, all of these financial crimes which Tisch, James and Sivance in Manhattan on their ass about they're gonna have some really, really big problems. But we've seen completely complete lawlessness, as Erica said, wiping their ass with the constitution. We still have a Muslim ban in place, we still have child separation in place, we still have black people being gunned down by the police. We still have slave patrols that seem to be even more emboldened since they had those two uh, racist white people from Minnesota, you know, parading their guns around on the Republican National Convention. And so this obviously the audience is for the people who want to assimilate with white supremacy and for the white supremacists themselves. But I don't see how anybody can watch this and walk away believing anything that these people are saying. But unfortunately we don't point these things out in the way that last week it was all about this person didn't get to speak, and you know this wasn't this didn't check all these boxes. And yet you have a whole as clan rally that's been broadcast for the past three days, and you don't hear the same level of outrage or even attention being brought to what these people are putting fourth in terms of their vision of America that people were on Body Harris's case about momline in great, go ahead, do what you do, your assess your assessment. No no, no no, I think Eric and re see a frame this person. It is a clan rally. It's a white nationalist terrorist clan value um and brother Henderson is absolutely right about the Republican Party reconstruction. As you say, see, white nationalism is a floating signified. It can apply to different moments of time, different so yees. During the eighteen sixties and seventies, it was the Radical Republicans that Charles Sumnon and Battius Stevens and yes, the Democratic Party, the party Andrew Jackson was the kind of locust for the White Nationalist Party. The White Nationals Party can float anywhere. And because of the efforts of Brother Henderson and those stalwarts of the civil rights movement who penetrated the Democratic Party, it drove many of the open white Nationals into the Republican Party. Uh. The brother said, we don't know history, and I'm not gonna lay that at North Carolina a n D. I mean I would sense the state. I hope that if you had gotten a degree from there to be a little bit different. But Jack Robinson was a Republican who recognized what was happening very at very gold Wide was nominated nineteen sixty four. But to Erica's point and Reese's point, again, this does not This must be said over and over again, even as the ratings were down yesterday, because you know, we don't we don't really watch that boat. So, I mean, you know that's that we want some people hate watch because I really enjoy my pen and I'll tell you why. This is where I'm going with this. Among others, Charles Blow said it again, their job is to erase history and cloud reality. Uh. Pen standing at Fort mckinna. Them using the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial of the White House. They are reclaiming there too. They are reclaiming their symbols. These symbols were never meant. So you see Milania Trump tried out in her uh paramilitary green with her catatonic facelifted behind, moving from Talponia the telephone. Bullshit, what does she just saying? She's not talking to me. I don't share a country with Melannia Trump. Are you very serious? Of all the first ladies in the history of the White House, only one of them ben butt necked and porno, And so she represents the ideal of white womanhood for white man. That's very clear. I'm not mad at Kim Clasica, Vernon, John Jones, or I'm not mad at Jack Grower David Cameron. Why because clearly their strategy is going to be to get the selection close enough to steal, and they're trying to lash black overhype made masculinity, to white overhype masculinity, and maybe trying to peel a few black men away from going to the pole. But when you saw Sterling Brown read that statement, brother standing next the George Hill of the Milwaukee. But you reported on this two years ago. Sterling Brown is the brother who the damn had a roll of police punk ass police that Hayes in the in the parking lot for the seven eleven in Milwaukee. When you saw Robert Ory earlier today or yesterday, say, you know, if one of these cops takes my son's like, I'm gonna take his life, I'm like Samuel Jackson. Yes. And when you saw Chris Webber, when you saw him tear up, those are tears of sadness. But he was looking down the whole time when he's talking about Charles Martley. This is a man who was remembering when he was a boy coming out of school in Michigan to go to University of Michigan. Then they stripped them of all their records and then he this is a man who said I did every thing right. Won't be unto you, you white nastals? Do you do? You're the White Nationals Party in the Republican Party, and guess where you're at right now. I want you to smiling, Mike. I want you to tell everyone you got baby. I want you to stand in front of Fort Henry because when Francis Scott. He wrote the Star Spangled Banner, there were black enslaved Africans and Baltimore swimming to get to the ships of the British because they were trying to get to the British because your white ass was on the wrong side of history. I want you to embrace it. These Naken memorial I want you to embrace the Jefferson Memorial and the White House. I want you to throw uh Jackie Kennedy's roses out and remake the Rose Garden into a replica a gorky park in Russia. You know why, because it ain't never been my country, and you know what I'm writing for, it is my humanity. I want you to embrace it with your whole heart, baby, because some of these stupid feet in the world now are gonna be very clear that we each have to make a choice. Are you gonna go down the line with these fascists who are going to destroy you? A woman got the nerve to talk about she had breast cancer and her life was saved. That's why she supports sports President Trump, who is trying to overturn the very damn Affordable Air Act that saved her life. Do you want to be on the same team as a nun who shook hands with the double last night? Do you really want to If you want to be with that tame, I encourage you to go back nineteen fifteen when they refounded the clan on the top of Stone Mountain. They had a Bible that they opened and burned across and stuck a sword over the top of the bible. That's that thing, David Cameron doing your white white We don't put the cop that that killed Brianna Taylor in jail. But guess what, I ain't gonna protest but too baby, We're gonna stee you in the street. Come folks. When Nicki Hanley's folks, she talked about this no no racism, and you heard what Mike Penn said. But this story here speaks to it. A gat I said to be a Florida couple whose home appraisal was very low. Tell what happened. So the praisal comes out, give them a low appraisal. She goes hold on the same aw this thing when so she then goes in and removes the black items new a praiser comes out much higher value. Yo. People keep talking about we don't have racism in America, But why do these things that keep happening? And then you have those who say, oh, that's that's you know, you're bringing those things up. Those are just you know, small little details. No they're not quite small details. When you're African American and literally your financial future is being impacted by racism. So let me unpack it. The reason I say you're financial future. Remember most Americans their wealth comes through home ownership. And so when you were in a situation where you have a home and you get less for your money, that's less money. But you can't invest what you can't place elsewhere. That's what we have to understand how racism still impacts us in the twenty one century. John is right now is a being a horton. Uh, she's a woman who went through this here being explain expokes exactly what happened here that that caused you to say, uh, no, something is amiss here. Well, for me, it was. I mean when he came into the house, he was he was so rude um to me in comparison to my husband, um. And he was so hostile when he saw me and and sort of aggressive, just like you know, you could tell when someone has contempt for you. Um, that was something that I can really feel in the room with him, and I just wanted him out of my house right away. So now your husband, uh is uh again? Uh? So the guy who came was white guy. Yes, Okay, so he comes, So it comes to your home and you I merely pick up on that, Okay, go ahead. Well, I mean he conversed with my husband first outside on on our doorstep, and I could see that from my office, and he was acting pretty normal. And then when he came into my office to look at the room, he just seemed very surprised and to me, very contemptuous. I I felt like there was a shift sort of in the air. Um. And and to me, it felt like there was some personal issue that he had with me specifically. Um. And so I just did not expect that the appraisal was going to go well. And I remember distinctly thinking that this appraisal is not going to go well. Um, there was a certain number that we needed to hit so that we would be able to get the best rate for refinance transaction. And I didn't think we're gonna we were gonna get it. So so you so you thought, hey, this is really a four and fifty thou now house, well, you know, or just in in that in that neighborhood. And then on the best day, I would say, you know, like I've I've scan Zillo like most people do to just check, and I think that's about as high as I've ever seen it go. So you know, that's that's definitely kind of around the high end. I would say, you know, around four fifty between, but that's not the number that he came back with. No, he came back with three thirty. So there was a difference of a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars a stroke of a pen um. He took that much equity. And again for the people who are watching to understand, we will talk about home appraisals. So when they come out, what they do is they come out and they look at everything. Look at did you add a pool? They look at condition of the home, all these different things that had nothing to do with it. Yeah, now that that had nothing to do with it. Um um. I have no idea why he chose the comps that he chose. I have no idea why he would appraise us three thirty when you know, there's homes around us that are much smaller, fewer bathrooms, your bedrooms that were regularly going in the high threes um, and the homes with four bedrooms like mine, we're going significantly higher than that. And the problem here that people don't understands that when the homes are appraised again, this is all subjective, that this is not this is not like there's a sheet here where it's okay if it's three bedrooms of four bedrooms. I mean typically Actually the way it's supposed to go is that when you do have largest grare footage, more rooms, more bedrooms, more bathrooms, approved amenities, you get a higher appraisal, you would think. And also I think, um one of the more subjective terms is condition of the home. Right, that's something that that factors in as well. Um. So I think that's something where that really has to do with the eye of the appraiser. They're inside the house. I'm really observing you know, small, small different says. They're looking for termites, they're looking for you know, structural damage, that sort of thing, um, and they pretty much say good condition, back condition, you know, very good condition, you know, something like that to to make the assessment, and it's a combination of factors between public records and what the appraiser is seeing. And for some reason, these two appraisers saw something that was a hundred and three five dollars apart. Now let's go let's go back. He was he was fine talking to your husband, right right. He appeared to be normal, and that's what my husband thinks as well. But then he saw you correct. Difference between and what difference between you and your husband? Well, I'm a lady and I'm a black. I'm a black woman. Um, so you know there was a bit of a difference. I attribute the change to being Um, I thought it was based on some personal characteristic and my suspicion is that it was rice right, but you black, Your husband's not correct, and so he sees the white guy that he sees you all hell noll. So then you be a lord, you say, and your bank agree with you on this one. So then you did something that actually showed what the deal is? What what did you do? So what I did was is I I took down all of our family pictures that showed that there were African Americans living in the home, took down holiday holiday cards, took down any books. I really am not sure at what these appraisers are looking at, but you know I took away anything visible that would um you should basic. You stripped all the blackness at the house. I stripped the blackness out of the house. And I did not like that. It was very painful to do that. And then a new appraiser comes out, same company or so this was this was a different company because the bank hired a different company too to handle it. New a praiser comes out, and then what number do you get? We get four sixty five? Um, so three thirty four. I'm hearing a lot you know this. I'll started with the Facebook post and there's been a lot of activity they're talking about, well, you know, it could have been this, It could have been that. It didn't necessarily have to have been raised. But a bana bana. You don't go from three thirty two fold sixty five. Because one person said, I really like the crown molding. That's correct, and it's abena like Robin, I'm sorry, I mean that that so so what see the thing that the reason that this is important because I deal with these white folks and some of these black people who are like, oh, y'all make too much out of this, when it's like, no, this is precisely it. One of the reasons why you have the wealth gap is because black people's homes were greatly undervalue. They were not able to then sell those homes at a higher price and then pocket that money, invest that money. And so we had lower home values, which meant lower a lower amount, and we don't have much to play with. And this is mean that a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars you take that invest that all of a sudden, your children's children are impacted based upon what you do with a hundred and thirty five tho dollars. And this is exactly what people say when you so when the Nick Behaviors of the world and the Mike Pences of the world, and both people say, oh, no, there's no racism. No, this is racism at work right here. I mean, I think we all have biases. People of every race and color have have biases. And I think it's ridiculous to say that there are no biases, that there's no racism in the world. I mean, it's just dis ingangerous. I don't understand why you can even make that argument given that we're just fifty sixty years out of civil rights, that's not that much time, you know, to change hearts and minds are still an undercurrent there. So, I mean, I do believe that systemic racism exists, and in this case, I would like, you know, the reason that I brought this out and that I want to educate people about it, and a lot of people don't know about this issue, is because I would like someone to do a study on this. Right. Oh no, that the first of that being studies. That's been the studies. They have been blind testing and Boston they did this, they've done this when it came to showing of homes and the real tripical all you're blind, No, we're gonna show you these homes. And they're like, well, hold on, show me the homes over there. No, no, no, well show you over here. I mean, those things exist. Now the company that the appraiser, what has happened to them that y'all report them? Anything happened Alexa, turn on kitchen light. Excuse me, that was my son's bedroom. Uh, he's like coming out, it's all right, it's all right. So the praiser did y'all report this report this guy. Uh that y'all that y'all blast the company what happened? So we reported um the end of Jule and the company to HUD. We have not blasted this individual. I have no intend to do that. UM. I intend to let the investigation play itself out and so that they can explain this a hundred and thirty five thousand dollar difference to me in a way that makes sense. And if it does not make sense, I'm going to continue to believe that it was racism at work in my life. Are you going to see him? You know, I don't know that. Money has never been, you know, an issue with this. It's always been about basically my feelings and me wanting to tell people what happened to me, you know, So I don't want to say it either way, especially since they're probably watching so their asses. Look. Look, look the reason I understand it. Look, I remember when I bought a previous home and the bank had the nerve to ask uh me and my wife for deposit slips because they did not necessarily believe the income. I'm like, I'm like, giving your deposit slips. I'm like, Dad, ain't happening. Of course, I ain't giving you that because the day I'm money direct deposit like you know, then deposits flip. But again, those are the things that happened. And then we're like yesterday, we we you know, we we had you know, people to understand successful black people are impact. Now. I was debating social Yesterday's Republican and I was like, boo, it don't matter if you're a successful black person. This is the stuff that happens where we get screwed. No, you can do everything right, you know, go the right schools, get the degrees, get married, have two kids and a dog, try to buy a house, and there's just all these little ways that add up to really keep you from attaining the same equality that other people have. Indeed, indeed, well look good luck with it. First of all, thank you for sharing your story. The New York Times picked up on it the Facebook post. A lot of people have seen it, and it's caused a lot of people to tell their story about what they've experienced as well. And hopefully what it also has done, it's caused folks who really didn't understand this to not be more mindful when it comes to home appraisal and to do this, make sure that more than one person actually UH is doing the home appraise where you're getting a better understanding, because yeah, you're right, you should not have to strip your blackness in order to get high value or the proper value of your home. I don't think it should be that subjective at all. Subjective means there's a problem with the industry, whether it's race or whatever. Put that person on blast and the company and sue, they asked, Okay, I'm done. We appreciate it, thank you so very much, thank you very much, my panels. This is this is the thing re see where people don't People just refuse to understand. And this is how black people are impacted. This is how we impacted economically. That economic keeps us from being able to fund businesses, give to colleges, uh, position for our children. And this is how this is a perfect example of how white people are able to have the highest amount of white wealth in the country and black folks for the lowers, because that's how we get screwed. I absolutely and I think that it's a perfect example of how when people try to suggest that economic um reforms are going to solve racism, now, absolutely not. She didn't get a lower appraisal because a white person doesn't have Medicare for all. She got a lower appraisal because the person was flat out racist. And you know, this has a compounding impact because not only is it a matter of equity, but as she mentioned, it was a matter of her interest rate. And so the how are your interest rate is the more that you're paying on a monthly basis. So now you have the wage yeat that black people experience are as a black woman sixty one, it's on the dollar for what a white man makes. Now she's married to a white husband, so that kind of metigates a little bit. But you know, in terms of her specific racism that she's going to experience, you have the wage you got thing, you turned around and you have lower equity in your house. Then you turn around and you pay more on a monthly basis for the same for the house that is worth significantly more. And so I'm glad that she's told the story because at the end of the day, black people have to survive, and it's very painful to have to strip the blackness from your home. But for a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars, I think people would rather take down a couple of pictures and a couple of statues and not take their chances. But it should not take doing that. You should not take having to hire multiple appraisals. Those things are expensive. They're like four hundred and five hundred dollars, six hundred dollars, and so it's it's disgusting, but it's very insidious. It goes beyond redlining, and it goes beyond all these things that people are already accustomed to expecting, um racism in the real estate industry. But this is this is the thing here, Gregg, that um, you're right, we shouldn't have to take things down because again, Allly, people who keep saying, oh, no, we're all the same, We're all everyone's in the same boat. No, you need to stop seeing colors, stop fixating on that. And to your point earlier, we can do all the right damn thing. We can go to the school rules, we cannot have a criminal record, we can never do drugs, we can never j walk. We could sit here, take the base out of our voice and have more trouble in our voice. We could do all those things, and then they're gonna still remind you your ass still black absolutely and Brolan. You know, it's just the Abena is a lawyer and she knows this. I'm sure she took it in law school. Let me teach this every semester when I do my race Law and change class at Howard. We go over the Fair Housing Act of nineteen sixty eight, which is in many ways very two things. Um, you have to understand that even complained to Hood won't do anything. Hood has the ability to file a suit independent of UH and her husband. They can they can actually pursue this, but they won't UH. And what we just heard is not an outlying case. White realtors for years, actually since the passage of Fair Housing Act have said that when you're selling a home or refinancing a home, they encourage do When they're selling a home, they encourage people to take out all the stuff that personalized the home. That's what they stay generous. But we understand that this is being driven by perception. You see, money is only a marker for value, and value is a co mingled thing. It isn't just about objectively measuring out the land and looking at the quality of the construction of the house. No, this is about perception. The New York Times article notes that before the second appraiser came, Abana took her husband and she and her husband's child and went and left the house, leaving that white man there by himself. So the appraiser is looking through the lens of white nationalism, of course, but that appraiser is calculating in their head value based on a potential sale to a customer. So this isn't just about who how much the house is worth. It's about how much can we get on the market, and that is absolutely dates on perception. The history of housing since the Fair Housing Act has revealed to us that it is a particularly ineffective tool when it comes to this specific category, because again, this is being driven by perception, and the appraises defense will be this is what I thought I could get on the market. If they would be an honest, it would say this is what I think I can get on the market from a buyer, and that says they don't want to buy from a black person. It's the same reason they had restrictive covenants in more in housing mortgages, it's a it's a difficult thing to win in the court of law, and I know, I would have knows that, which is probably one of the reasons why she didn't really want to talk about it. Ahead I'm sorry, Yeah, I think Erica. Yes, yeah. And and this kind of just goes back to show you that, you know, the whole kind of speech that many were given about being ten times better, UM, having to do more would ensure kind of permitting the black life into a better part of society, is this is not it because we cannot take our skin off. And so until there is a real addressing UM really that everything that we see systemically, whether visible or invisible, has really been created to diminish the quality of life for black people and continue to hold white people UM at this place, the pinnacle, the summit of what it needs to live and to be free, will continue to experience and see things like this, and and that is kind of the part of UM how we really traverse through black life understanding that you know, while one colleague may be talking about refinancing their home and having it be a seamless process, there's so many different steps that we have to take in order to make sure that our process is something that is something that we could actually digest. So this is just another um full example of systemic racism and really just continuing to project that the best life is the white lights. Well that is uh, that is certainly the case what we're dealing with, Folks, gotta go to break we come back. 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This is a robo call has been going out to black people in Detroit. Listen to this. Jared the other thing that happened overnight is that the NBA has now postponed games in large part as the result of a protester or boycott by the players. UH. This relates to the sort of large This is the super rights organizations founded by Jack Berkman and Jacob Boll. Male and voting sounds great, but they do know that if you vote by mail, your personal information will be part of other public databates that will be down one company to collect outstanding debt. The CDC is even to give practice for mail and voting to attract people from mandatory effects. Don't be conned to give information to the main they say, where's so the Secretary of State go to iPad. This is what Jocelyn Benson put office has received. The recording of the robo called targeting Detroit voters using racially charged stereotypes and false information to deter voting by mail. It is an uncomfortable, indefensible, blatant attempt to lie the citizens about their right to vote. H Jacob, Jacob wol and Jack Berkman UH two insidious individuals who they've had numerous things in the past where they've lied, light lied, and to sit here and say, oh, your personal information. This is the kind of stuff recy that black fools better get used to. The Republicans are going to employ. They do not want black people turning out in this election. It's all about suppression. They do not have to convince you that Donald Trump is going to be a good president. All they have to do is to convince you not to vote. And so we have to be very very vigilant and how we are receiving information and making sure that we're educated. Voting Plan A, voting Plan B, voting Plans C, and voting Plan D. And then once you set those plans, you have to keep checking. We're only under seventy days away, so we don't have much longer to go, which is why we have to get prepared now. Um recently, I'm sorry, Erico, go ahead, Yeah, absolutely. And when you think about the seen election Michigan Wisconsin, UM, we're two of the three states that were heavily targeted, and we saw voter suppression upwards of two hundred thousand votes uh in the state of Wisconsin based on voter I D laws. And when we see the margin of victory for um, Donald Trump, it was seventy seven thousand votes, but that was because of a very very concerted voter suppression and action plan and Russian interference and so these and we you know, we're talking about being woke. This is a part of being woke understanding that these kind of calls that are coming out of the normal during the election season, and that they're coming to areas where they're high concentration of black folks, that it's something that is really designed only to as recent just said, to suppress your vote and really to create another level of voter ampathy. So, um, people need to be aware that this is you know, all of the guards have been taken off, They've got a two hundred million dollar add by that's gonna start being in effect. Labor Day weekend is only going to get worse from here. Get ready and be prepared to cast your ballot early, um and with friends. Greg story Anthony on my iPad. Uh, this is a story about NBC viral pro Trump tweets came from fake African American spam accounts, Twitter says, uh and being. The story reads that Twitter has taken action to stop a spam operation that pushed messages from fake accounts about black people abandon the Democratic Party. The company removed to fake accounts and deleted the account of a San Diego man who spammed the platform. Again, this is what they're going to be doing, greg Um. So this guy had had this account UH went dim to rep locked over eleven thousand retweets on a single tweet that claimed that the user was a lifelong Democrat who was pushed to vote Republican by the Black Lives Matter movement. The tweet was posted shortly after the account was created Tuesday. First of all, that's the first sign if account just opened last week. They fake m hm, absolutely, brother, I mean, I agree everything that recent Erica have said in terms of this full spectrum strategy. The White Nationalist Party is going to win this selection by stealing if they're going to win it. They are now. They've abandoned all pretenses. They are speaking to their utterly racist base. They are in courts. There's a there's a story that just broke today. Uh. The Trump administration won a victory in the Iowa courts when the judge said that the registrar couldn't send out uh information for people to get absentee ballots because they pre filled out their names to send them out. Uh, there's going to be all kinds of lives told like this story, these two stories you just said. They're going to do everything they can to get it close enough to steal. And when you read or listen to Greg polast and many others already burmaning them, they'll tell you they've been doing this for the last several sites. So many absentee ballots that are turned in or provisional ballot votes are thrown away. Once they get the ballots, they can decide that the signatures don't match, which is why I have from Maryland. Of course my envelope to request an AFTEE ballot. But I'm gonna be massed up, gloved up, and and I has matt suit if I need to be. I'm getting in line and voting in person. Why because, let's be very clear, folks who don't have the option yet absentee. But if you can go in person early vote, if you can get off the day, take the day and go and vote. Why Because what these white supremacists, why these white nastals are getting ready to do is use every trick they have to get the election close enough to steal. And finally for my deep friends and colleagues and comrade who are saying the vote doesn't matter, all the parties are the same. I understand that logic, I really do. The only thing I would ask you is that if and when they steal this election and you didn't vote, which meant you did vote by your absence, I just want to make sure that all of you are strapped, all of you are ready to take it to the streets and the bushes, and that you can embrace what comes next with your whole heart. Because what we are talking about is not a full embrace of the democratic agenda. But what we're talking about is perhaps for stalling what may even be the inevitable, which is the disintegration of this set, the state project, because these white boys gonna roll. Listen to the wheels literally falling off. So think twice before you say don't vote, because if you're not ready to get in the street and do that, I think you better just gonna strap up and check your vote registration and try to forestall this thing. Donald Trump is speaking tonight, But the folks that vote vets, they have something to say about a goal star family to Donald Trump. My son was the first person to die in combat under Donald Trump. Just five days into his presidency, Trump ordered Ryan Seale team into Yemen, not from the situation room with all the intelligence assembled, but sitting across a dinner table from Steve Bannett. There was no vital interested playing, just Donald Trump playing big man, going to war and when it went horribly wrong, when you're loser, seventy five million dollar airplane and more on American life has lost and owned it. I don't believe that you can call it a success Donald Trump, to mean my son's sacrifice, to play to the crowd. For nearly four years, Trump has assailed our country's core values. When Russia put bounties on our troops heads, Trump defended Putin instead of our military. I think it's a hoax. He need capped the postal service to undermine our right to vote. This election will be the most rigged election in history. He's misled us throughout the pandemic. Yeah. No, I don't take a responsibility at all. Two hundred thousand Americans will have died before we vote. They and Ryan have one thing in common. It didn't have to be but for Donald Trump. If you hear one thing, let it be this don't trust Donald Trump with your kid's life or your own folks. Certainly a strong at there, but man, we saw this other at a former Trump the pop the Homeland Security official lays out why this man should not get four more years. She said he comforts white supremacy. Hi am Elizabeth Newman. I am first and foremost a follower of Jesus Christ. I'm a wife and a proud mom. I voted for Trump in primarily because of the pro life issue. I served in the Trump administration at the Department of Homeland Security and became the Assistant Secretary for counter Terrorism and Threat Prevention. In my role as Assistant Secretary for counter Terrorism, we looked at emerging threats, including the rowing threat from domestic terrorists, and over the period of sev eighteen, we started to see that rise of the white supremacist agenda. I and my leadership at the Department of Homeland Security were very clear that we found the ideology behind white nationalism white supremacy to be a rowing threat. A very common refrain that I was asked was does the president It's rhetoric make your job harder? And the answer is yes. The President's actions in his language are in fact racist things like they're good people on both sides, or send them back from where they came from. Those words gave permission to white supremacists to think that what they were doing was permissible, and I do think that the president's divisive language is indirectly tied to some of the attacks that we have seen in the last two years. The reason government is supposed to exist is to plan and prepare for external threats like we're staying today with COVID. There were plans put in place for a pandemic for fifteen years. When we started to see that a pandemic was on its way to our shores in January, any number of experts told me we need to be executing on these plans. But from January until March eleventh, what you saw instead was a number of good public servants attempting to do their job and the president telling them to stop because he didn't want the economy to tank and he didn't want a distraction from his campaign. I'm sorry, Mr President, you were hired to handle America's worst day, and you've absolutely failed. I do not think that we can afford four more years of President Trump. We are less safe today because of his leadership. We will continue to be less safe as long as he is in control. And this year I'll be voting for Joe Biden. Look, this is somebody who was on the inside. Reese who said, yep, aidan abandoned white supremacist. This was she, So let's let's start there. However, I do think that it's important to have these folks um jump ship, you know, and and blow the whistle and blow the lid off of what's happening, that we all see what's happening. But it does add a little a little bit more credibility when it's coming from somebody like Elizabeth Newman. Uh. Um, Let's not forget that there was footage of her testifying about the child separation policy. So I understand that you have a lot of Republicans that are going to try to rehabilitate their complicitness or actual um co conspirator role in this Trump administration's white nationalist agenda. But if she wants to speak out now, and if she wants to um, you know, inform people about how dangerous he is, then good on her for that very specific thing. Um, go right ahead, Erica, Yeah, slow class and for me it's a little bit annoying and aggravating from from two places. One of them is which when people talk about their faith UM. And as a person, I've been very you know, forthcoming. I am a believer UM and I do UM UM definitely have a relationship with Jesus Christ. And I just don't understand that if a person has a relationship with Christ, how they can definitely support the sign of a clansman. So that's one thing. So I would love for people to stop invoking or faith UM, particularly in support of somebody who is UM, does not read the Bible called the Second Book of Corinthians to Corinthians, who clearly has not been to any worship services, that spends, in our taxpayer money, most of his weekends golfing at one of his several golf courses UM, either in Virginia or in Bedminster. But then forward after that, kind of what we've seen after, you know, kind of the fallout from this is that people write books, they go on all of these different shows, they're paid. And so her position if it is very authentic, and that she's you know, using her experience and say these are the things that I've seen and in fact that I'm going to vote for him. I mean, we're good on her, but I'm hoping that she's talking to the people that are in her family. The folks that follow kind of the same UM line of thinking when it comes to UM pro life, whatever issue they want to bring forth to say this is the reason that they voted for Donald Trump, whatever excuse it is, that they may do better and influence the people around two that are going to be more likely to vote for Trump because most of us did not support him and will not support the son of a clansman. Hey, folks uh. The earlier, the Major League Baseball commissioner, he was trying to get the Mets as well as the Marlins UH to do some sort of demonstration but then play the game. An hour later, the players had another idea. This is what they did, y'all. They took the field, had afforded to second moment of silence, then both teams walked off, and the only thing they left on the field it's the Black Lives Matter shirt. Watch this. And now Lewis Brinson announced as the lead off hitter for Miami, and all of the Marlins and Mets have come out of their dugouts, Michael Walker takes off his hat and all the Mets on the field are removing their hats as well. Now, after a moment of silence that lasted forty two seconds, the day before we celebrate Jackie Robinson Day, the Mets are exiting the field after both teams exchanged the wave of caps to one another, so it would appear as though, after a poigning moment, that the Mets and Marlins will not be playing baseball tonight. Have a Black Lives Matter shirt left on top of home plate. Uh. I keep telling people out there. I under stand that folks want to see things sped up, but I'm telling you you have not seen this. You have not seen white ball players standing with black ball players. Uh. So much has changed since Colin Capertan took a knee in two thousand and sixteen. Uh And to see them, people thought, oh great, we're gonna have a game, and they come out and somebody' all are saying about two seconds. It's because tomorrow is the anniversary of when branch Ricky and Jackie Robinson met the first time, which led to him being signed by the Brooklyn Dodgers. That's what tomorrow is that's what the two seconds was for. Uh that right there. People can say symbolism means nothing, recy but these things do matter. When you have a this generation who is saying no, we're gonna shut it down and if you don't like it, tough, we're not gonna play it absolutely does matter. It's so striking though, how we have to do all of this for what should be such a basic concept that black lives matter. I mean, this, this, this really exposing the depths of the resistance to our black humanity in this country. And we're not enslaved people's anymore. You know that ended, you know, a century or so ago, but um, we're still grapplings with people who don't even want to acknowledge that. I mean, even at the at the Republican National Convention, the Claim Convention that's been going on, they absolutely refused to say black lives matter. Uh, they'll say these specific black lives matter, but not even using the three words together. And so it's jarring, um, even as a black person to just see the level of protests required for this just basic understanding for people to have. But I'm hoping that it's really, um that much more jarring to to white people out there. I'm not a person who has a whole lot of faith in this necessarily um waking people up immediately, but hopefully the cumulative effect of people, not just black people, but not just one particular um uh team, but a galvanization around this notion that black people should not be gunned down by the police. I hope that it shakes people out of this complacency and this just stubborn belligerents about black lives mattering. And then, of course you want to see how whiteness works. Uh, Erica. Here is Brian Erlacker. He posted fit on his Instagram stories. Bred far played the Monday Light football game the day his dad died, through four TVs in the first half and was a legend for playing in the face of adversity. NBA players boycott the playoffs because a dude reaching for a knife wanted on a film the sexual was warrant was shot by police. Keep in mind, ran Erlacker has a has a black son, m M. Right. And when we think about Brett Farve, also know that you know it wasn't but a few weeks ago that he was golfing with the son of a Klansman. UM. It just kind of shows what the priorities are in this country. UM. But along the lines of the Major League Major League Baseball, this is kind of a precedence that has been set because when you consider the percentage of black UM ball players, it's you know, it's about seven percent. It's it's not that high. UM. So to have this overarching statement that is made UM to really penetrate the minds of those people on the other side of the screen, UM, that are black and white but mostly um white. UM does say something and it does kind of maybe still the moment for a bit to give UM more consideration for really something like Reese said, you know, stringing together those three words in a demonstrative way that black lives do matter, and they should matter because we should not be faced with assault on every in just for being black. All right, folks, that is it for us. Car had of course had the jump off, which will appreciate him being on the show today, recy and Erica as well. Hey, I did not forget y'all. 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Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Today's Thursday After Morning seven, two thousand and twenty, coming up on Rolling Martin on the filtered protests for Jacob Blake continue in Kenosha, Wisconsin. We'll talk to one of the protesters about what he's seeing on the ground. NBA players they they went on strike last night. Uh W. NBA players three games on strike tonight in Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer. We get the ladies, that's what's going on. We'll talk with Craig Hodges, former NBA player who was known for his social activism, about what is going what he's seeing in sports today. Also folks, uh the margin Washington, the Anversariyes, tomorrow, we'll talk with the widow of ray Shard Brooks, who's gonna be speaking at the rally along with others who have law loved ones the RNC. The convention wraps up tonight. There's some black holes who spoke last night. A lot of lies being told. We'll break it all down down for you and Sima Kamala Harris rips Donald Trump today before his speech, who quite delicious. And you meet the woman who saw her home appraisal jump thousands of dollars when she removed all signs of her blackness and the crazy as white woman slapped eleven year old black boy at a gold cart track. We'll tell you what happened. Plus a new round of anti Trump as veterans go after him as well as Republicans. A former member of his administration comes out and says that Donald Trump absolutely was helping white supremacists in America. It's time to bring the punk rolling Mark unfilter. Let's go whatever it is. He's right on time and strolling. Best believe he's going putting down from Boston used to politics with entertainment. Just case he's strolling rolling. It's strolling. Martell was rolling. He's spooky spress. She's led. Question though he's rolling Martell down Martell. Last night, the fourth night of protesting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, of course, five days after a black man was shot in the back seven times. Jacob Black Uh, it's still hospitalized. His father says he's paralyzed and he's actually handcuffed to the bed. No explanation and why that's the case. Although curfews was set for seven PM, demonstrators took to the streets to make their voices heard uh in various protesting. Here some of the video folks of the protests that took place. Uh. There folks are marching down the streets and you see them hearing them as well. There have been other nights where, of course you've seen a truck set on fire. And of course what the last night, and the militia, the folks who were out the last couple of nights, they were not there last night after one of their own seventeen year old wife boys been arrested for the murder of two people. And so that's what's been going on there Today. Revergense Jackson Senior arrobbed in Kodosa to address the shootings of Jacob Blake and the pattern of killing black people in a news conference there. Well, let meet this point clear as a pattern killing black people. When the roof kill nine people in church in South and South Carolina, police took him to get a hamburger, fourteen to jail, he walked away. The killer walked away free. When Uh, George Flower was killed in Minnesota, the killer went home that night. The prosperous said, you can nothing could happen the next day when Keith got the case first time in history of Minnesota, black police had been ah and died at the killer of black Brianna Taylor. The killing Kentucky still walks free today. The killer Jacob stay home, the shoot them walked free today. The fact of that he is prost couldn't say in the Minnesota, they couldn't have found the case against the killer. The George Floyd Keith Ellison is the ton of journal move quickly in them now they're getting through an inn. The similar cause of the horrendous killing burned upon the upon the states turning in this state turned general to move and move quickly. We must do the justice works for the people. The second I want to made this concern that shotting the back seven times fervor time, no just in from no no justification when the performant don was field in Chicago, it's covered up the tape for in the day's sixteen shots. The lines that heard pros him of the night I'm sure shot him in the back said they find million dollars five million dollars for cover up and didn't work thro the kwamate Donald Brunna Taylor, Jacob here in in Wisconsin pattern we demand justice from the country there's a kind of moral desert at the top. Tell me how well, look at what's happening on the ground. Is one of the protesters, Kindle West, founder of the African American Club, Clint kind of glad to have the rolemart unfiltered. All right, sir, how are you doing great? There is this perception that all you see out of control white folks out there protesting in Kenosha, a city white. What is actually happening there from your perspective, from our perspective, uh, the black population of the largest black population are there as well. Um. But to be honest with you, we are the ones that are that are doing the majority of the peaceful protesting. Um Uh. We've been organized, We've been very vocal about the the actions that have been taken up until this point, from uh the shooting until present. So that being said, UM, we we respect the law enforcement's rules, regulations, policy procedures in reference to their UM, I guess their orders when it comes to different curfews and stuff like that. UM So, So the agitators, the people who are out here um um making things worse, aren't of our majority. UM. Sure, we may be a minority group, but of the majority of people that are out there protesting. Our community is doing it the right way. So are there any African Americans? Uh So, first of all, are y'all? Are y'all protesting in a separate location than what we're seeing each night because that video we showed where that truck was burned out is near the courthouse? And so what's going on there? And have any African Americans gone to where they are and and and literally said, hey, y'all ain't repping us. You're not you're not repping Jacob Blake, You're not ripping black lives matter. Y'all are sitting here making us look bad. Absolutely. Uh So the first part when it comes where I guess the larger group of the African American uh population, I wouldn't say that we're centrally located because everyone is everywhere at this point. Um, But we started at the courthouse, and the first night of those um of those protests starting out there at the at the courthouse, it was dispersed and um it was it was kind of moved from that point on to other sections of the city. Now, with that being said, I know for a fact there there are people, um, black men black women. Um, not just black women, black men and women, but there are people. For instance, there's a friend of mine, his name is ron Ronnie Brown, and he uh stopped uh one of these agitators from burning down one of the museums. Uh. He is. He's been very very vocal, very very active. Uh. Not just him, but Alvin owens Um who's been very very active as well, uh. Dr Pritchard, um Ray Lopez, all of these different people that I can name, who have literally been giving their souls to this, uh, this movement because we have finally we have the ear of the people outside of Connosha, because this systemic problem has been going on for many, many years. So do you believe that part? Do you believe that what ship? And again, just let me know if this is actually happening um um. Is there a particular group or groups who are saying we're going to take charge of this, meaning we're going to have organized protest, We're gonna say this is where we're meeting, this is the time we're meeting, this is how long we're going to go. Uh. And then that's what the separates from what you're seeing out there, because again, the actions that we're seeing in conno by a lot of these white folks that are being live streamed by other white folks. Uh. For me, I'm so like hell where the black who are live streaming? Uh? And look, I'll be perfect honest with you, I got no problem. Uh you know, you know, you know, we we have a component where we can literally send one of your folks a link where they could actually stream from their Android or their iPhone. So that way that is actually getting out then what we're seeing. And so is there any playing or any effort to say we we are going to take control of this? And so if anybody is doing anything outside of this, they are not having anything to do with us. Absolutely. So UM, I guess to unpack all of that, there are groups. Unfortunately we don't have a larger following because we've got a small city. We're not Milwaukee and we're not Chicago. We're we're between the two. Uh, so our following isn't as as as heavy. But there are people, um, for instance, Jesse Franklin who is UM an activist in Milwaukee. He has come down again. Alvin Owens has been very very vocal um when it comes to organizing. Uh. They they send out direct information to the through social media's and stuff like that, UM, social media apps, and they give you dates times where to actually go when it comes to locations, what we're going to be doing, when it comes to marching, where we're going to be located, how we're going to march, what what the chants are going to be. It's very very militantly organized and for the for the most part, we haven't had any issues when it comes to the peaceful protesters. UM. It's when the lights go out, that's when we have the issues. And and people, unfortunately, people don't want to see the um, the depositive side of the Afrian American community here in Kenosha. Uh. They want to see the other side. UM. And the other side is literally holding onto UM. I guess they're they're they're being put into position where uh, if you can get a couple of few African Americans and a big group of agitators, then they're getting pointed out. And that's to my in my opinion, not fair. Do you do you believe that what we are seeing our folks who are indeed provocateurs, people who are there to do things to to give the protesters. The people who are doing it right a bad image. I've heard that in Portland, UH, and we know in Minneapolis that they were white supremacists who were mixed in. Who are who will call him to Mayhem? Absolutely, I witnessed things myself. I Uh, Penosha isn't that big. I was born raised here have UM, went away for a school and notary and things of that nature or whatever. When I came back, it's still pretty pretty relatively small. But that being said, I know a lot of people. I know familiar faces, I know different faces, and the familiar faces are those who are in the peaceful portion proportions of everything. The people that are coming from out of state, UM, I don't understand why we're even seeing UH license plates that have Washington state. UM. When it comes to our sure, Wisconsin is great, it's amazing. We love the especially the lakefront is amazing. But but I haven't seen it people coming from Utah. People are coming from all these different places and essentially located in the areas where we're having issues. UM. And the problem that we're having is it sucks even more because I have been able to see UH people not being able to hold their opinions on social media and things like that. UM. So, with that being said, I kind of want to bring to uh, the to the forefront when it comes to these agitators. They're burning down the wrong neighborhoods. They are burning things that that are literally for the black community, and and these things in these places I mean from small business owners to UM or black small business owners to uh, displacing kids or minorities period in a specific area. Now, this is not fair because to us, we know better, We know that these areas aren't they're off limits. If you're going to protest this situation, why burned down the same population that represents the the community that you're protesting for. Which gives us and which gives me the opinion that it has to be someone from the outside, because there's no way you should be burning up the Uptown and Commercial because that is our area. So, UM, have you or any of the other black protesters, have you has MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, these networks? Have they reached out to y'all? Because again, if you look at what's being paid now you've got you know, all the candidates who are speaking on what's happening. Both people are demanding uh, folks should be calling folks out for this. You've got, of course, these athletes who are out outrage of what happened with Jacob Blake. But again, I think, just like what we saw in Portland and Seattle in other places, it begins to take this whole turn away. And again, I'm watching these livestreams at night. I'm up till two and three or four o'clock in the morning, and I'm seeing a whole bunch of white people. I'm not seeing I'm seeing maybe one, maybe two black people, but for the most part, I'm seeing nearly all white people. Your your your vision is not flawed. You are seeing exactly what you UM described. To answer earlier question, are they reaching out to us? I believe that they're reaching out to the people who are there for the photo op. Unfortunately, UH, they're there to say that I was in the presence of this guy, that guy in the mayor. UM. Whereas there are people who are who I've named earlier, UM, just a small few who are literally the the people who are UM making the progress that needs to be done and needs to be seen. For instance, UM, we have Frank Nintie who's out of Milwaukee, who's marching to to Washington right now with my with my business manager Billy Violet. They they are marching for this cause and they have had issues and things like that, but I don't know if they have received the national news uh that they actually deserve. So that way we can have these conversations, not just have conversations, but have these conversations directed to a solution. Now, um, I I apologize for talking too much, but now you're fine. You're fine. The solutions are there, um, but no one wants to hear it. For instance, as the founder of the African American Club, UH, it's a it's it's behooves me to believe that there has never been an African American club in the city of Kenosha, the state of Wisconsin, and or the entire United States of America. And with that being said that that hurts my soul because we we have other societies that have these places for African Americans or for their cultures to to to to be developed, or their cultures to be experienced and enjoyed, except for us. So I took it upon myself to um to to start the process of erecting a facility for the African American community and those who would like to uh to to enjoy the culture, to uh learn about the culture, not just the water down slavery conversation of our history. We are we are inventors, we are doctors, we are lawyers, we are Black people are great, and it is up to us to show how great we are. But not just that, but to take ownership of it because our culture is getting appropriated or misappropriated every single day. Things go viral every single day off of black culture. Yet the majority are those who are getting the accolades and things of that nature. So so if there are so to do this, here we have information. If if there are, if any of your people, if they are live streaming, if they lost in New York protest, Uh, I'm going to send our folks, UM, get your information. And then he's what he lives streams. His name is Corey, and Corey is literally the he's the eyes on for us, all right, so so so Corey is the one. So he's shooting and he's live streaming so and and and he's live streaming where Facebook. Um, if I'm not mistaken, he has he has all the social media's and uh, he records he's I mean, he's the one of those skateboarding UM guys, so Laton because he moves around. So here's what's so, here's what we'll do. I will well, we will connect Corey without with with without digital folks. And then that way, uh, when when y'all are protesting, Uh, we can pick that up and actually treatment on all our platforms. I mean I got to two point seven million, and then that way that goes out. And then uh, what's also important, Uh if y'all y'all are sending out where you're protesting in talent information, we can also amplify. We can also amplify that so people know that these are the legitimate protesters. This is what people are there doing. These are folks who have an agenda, who lived there. Uh. And then and it got no And I got no problem calling out other natural immedia saying this is who you all should be talking to. Absolutely, Yeah, I have I have those people's information. You can you can contact me, um, you can contact my business man. But Billy Billy Violet when it comes to all of these things, if I'm not mistaken, Another big one is going to be Saturday at two pm. Two pm at the Civic Park uh. And that's going to be right across the street from the courthouse, and that is going to be us uh. So and then those people whatever who understand that the peaceful protesting it works, and we were here for so um but yeah, like I said, it's it's their route. There. There are things that are in the works um uh to to kind of change the narrative, um or to actually just change the narrative, especially when it comes to our our community being here, coming here, uh, coming back here. I observe that there's nothing for us to do, nothing for us to have or call our own. And again that's the reason why I like to plug the After American Club. Donations are going to be there. Go to the After American Club dot com. Uh. You can call me back uh if you have any questions or anything like that at eight six six five eighteen sixty five or eight six six b l K eighteen sixty five to get an idea of what the After American Club is, what we are, what we're planning as a as a social club as well as a business incubator, so that way we can harbor, infestor or and boster those those black owned businesses and Black owned community. Um, inside of the African American Club, tagline Stronger Together, tagline black Wall Street Connosha. All right, well look I would have my bookers in an email get information so we can push it out and amplify that. Kennell, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you so much, sir. All right, thank you very much, bringing my pound out the grad cards here the Department of Afril American Studies, how University re cee Covert Black Women's Vivas. Erica Savage Wilson host Savage Politics podcast. Greg. I'll start with you. Bottom line is this is why you have to have again independent black media because again, what we are seeing every night, we're seeing white folks out there protesting in the streets. We're seeing them uh burn stuff up. You hear his brother saying, no, I'm from here. That is not us, and that has to be stipulated so folks understand really what's happening, of course, brother Um, and yes it is no question everything uh supportive force, brother West and everything he's saying. I think we have to be very careful though. Um. There is no standard that black people can meet in this country that would satisfy our open enemies. There is no respectable level of protests. There is no uh refraining from breaking windows or anything else that would stop these people. Kyle Rittenhouse is a white terrorist, and so are the police every week, including connotion. They gave him wade a bottle. He's got his long rightfuay over there talking and this this boy goes over here and starts his murder rampage. And we saw that he would be rewarded if he wasn't arrested. He'd be like Marken Patrician mcplosky at the Terrorists National Convention this week. He would be given a medal, he would be given a platform. My point is this, brother Kendall can try to educate all the wants. You go back to the Atlanta Insurrection of nineteen o six. Dr D Boys was like and living in Atlanta saying, I think the world is just thinking wrong about race. And then they lunched a black man and stuck his knuckles in the butcher shop window put them on display. My point is this, there is no way to convince these white nationalist terrorists that we deserve to be human. The only thing they are going to respect is when we break their backs through economics, through politics, through organizing, and those white people who don't want to be on the wrong side of history need to join us. But it ain't about how many windows you shattered, or whether you shattered them or not. As Charles Blow said in New York Times yesterday, their job is to spread confusion and obscure reality. They have a reality and they're gonna stick to that. I don't give a damn if we all marched in line, Siddly and ain't break nothing. That's not the issue. I see. Here's the deal Erica. I don't My deal is not um making even making them comfortable and say, oh no, no, we're all peaceful. The issue for me is I want to make sure that black people are the ones who are getting the attention emin and are speaking into the issues in Kenosha and not have national media just show these images of a bunch of white folks running around and as you heard Kendall say, they're looking at the license plates. These look the white boy. Kyle Rittenhouse was from Illinois. He said, we got white folks who are coming in from all these other parts of the country, which says they're not local, and so what they're doing is just running to the next hot spot, bringing all their mayhem, acting a fool and there needs to be somebody saying, no, no, no, no, Where are the people who are from here, who are gonna be living here when these foods move on to the next hot spot. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Roland. And you know we've seen this in the cause that Nika Mallory and Linda Sars have taken up in Louisville, Kentucky. UM. I saw Facebook videos of white domestic terrorists a k A. Militia groups that were occupying the areas with which they are protesting. UM. They were recording license plates and they were actually giving reporting live hour by hour of what the activity was against what they consider to be radical black and brown people. So, you know, I I do agree with what Dr Carr said around UM. You know, there's no way that a black person can comport themselves uh to really gain um, some level of sympathy or understanding or empathy UM or really kind of alignment with what's right. But also UM to your point Roland, about assuring that people that are on the ground, organizing and doing the work are the folks that are talked with and connected to because we've seen Turk recalls so successfully with his white Terrorists campaign. UM continue to live forward UM and play sympathy around Kyle, who is in fact a white domestic terrorists UM. But so that's why platforms like this UM are of the utmost importance, and that honestly, it is up to the audience to really kind of share out this platform in a much more meaningful way because even though you know, mainstream media is very much so prominent, digital is taking over. And so again we are in this new era of civil rights and it definitely is going to require that all of us get involved, not just a few people, but all of us. The key here recy is making sure black people stay centered because see again what what what what happens in in this and we see it. It's already happened. Jacob Blake gets shot seven times in the back on Sunday around five pm. All of a sudden, you have protests, and then and then you have all of a sudden on Tuesday, white boy loses his mind, comes with a gun, he kills two people, both white, shoots a third person who's also white. So all of a sudden, now the conversation is actually a white supremacist who fires his gun, who shot three white people in the midst of that has nothing to do with the actions of Kenosha, Wisconsin and how they treated this black man. And so I think, what what always has to happen And it was the same thing that happened in Portland when we had the folks on with uh the uh the vote Wall group. My whole deal is that's where the messaging has to go out where black folks say, Hey, that bullshit that ain't us. So don't y'all come here talking about black lives matter and talking about black people. No, no no, no, go get y'all white folks who are over the act of the fool that's not us. Yeah, I mean Rolland I do agree with you in the sense of how these um movements tend to be gentrified in Columbus by white agitators. And you know, they do manage to slip in the white supremacists and white nationalists and the white domestic tears like Kyle Rittenhouse. And actually I wouldn't even call that slipping in because here you have the Conocia police and tanks for peaceful protesters that are lollygagging and handing out water to armed domestic terror exactly exactly. So I I but I I still tend to side with Dr corm this. This is not about respectability. This isn't even about order in terms of peaceful protesting. The order is about the social order, the social order of white supremacy, and that welcomes violence, whether it's white victims or black victims. If you're standing on the opposite side of that white supremacist social order, then you're collateral damage and the person who kills you as a white terrorist becomes a martyr. On Fox News, Tuckle Carlston and Culture and all those other degenerates. And so I don't think that it's a matter of how we comport ourselves as um Eric also said, I think it's more of a matter of the media doing what they want to do, and as black people, we have a duty to do what your show was doing, which is centering the black voices, not for the sake of saying, look, how respectable we are, but for the sake of making sure that our issues are centered. The fact that Jacob Blake is can cuffed to a bed, what crime did he even commit? And and the and the cops will not say why he is handcuffed. And so I I just think that again, while these things are happening, um is, we have to make sure good. Look, we know how mainstreaming is gonna play the game. Okay, we know they follow the mayhem. All right, you set it on fire, shots fired, they're showing up. You got a peaceful protest where they're talking about issues. They're not They're not there. And so my, my whole deal is, we've got to make sure that when these things happen, we are constantly centering that because when they this is all look about the control of the narrative. That is bottom line, you controling. When they take the narrative, then that thing is just gone and as hard as hell to rain that thing back. And so that's one of the things that we hope to see right there, speaking of my control of the narrative, we're seeing this right now. Of course with the NBA, the pro strike that took place as well, NBA players have players to resume the season. The plans were confirmed today by two people who are part of the discussions, who spoke on condition of annemity because talks were ongoing about several details, including when to return to play. Then the athletes protests began, going to walk out with the Milwaukee Bucks players leading to the NBA to postpone all the playoff games. Will actually know the NBA didn't postpone Jack the Milwaukee Bucks in Lando Orlando Magic said we ain't playing, and then the Houston Rockets and okay see Thunder said we ain't playing, and Lakers in the Portland said we're not playing. NBA had no choice. Then, of course, what we also saw. We saw that there were uh five major league soccer games. There were baseball games not played, involving the involving the Milwaukee Brewers. Also uh, the w n b A players said they're not gonna play. In fact, the w n b A released their statement three games that were scheduled tonight are not going to be played as well. Not only that, the Oakland A's dropped this statement. Go to my iPad. The Oakland A's organization fully supports our players, the athletes across Major League MLB, NBA, w n b A, MLS, and the black community and the historic efforts to end racial violence and inequality. We stay with our players and drawing attention to the racial injustice facing the Black community in our country. We will continue to amplify our players voices and voices within the Black community in Oakland and to use our platforms and resources in service of real change. And so that was the Oakland A's UH that dropped that statement. Now remember that was from the That statement was actually from UH from the team. This is the statement that was released by the players. Social injustice and systemic racism have been part of a fabric of our lives for too long. We have a responsibility to use our platform to lend their voices for those who are not being heard. We need to continue having the uncomfortable conversations and work towards being a unified force for change. These conversations will push the boundaries and enable us to come through on the other side with impactful results. All too often we hear about the plight of our fellow man and failed to act. It is long past due that these communities are being heard, seen, understood, and supported. We will not take the field tonight to help raise awareness for these social issues, not just tonight, but for our collective future. This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for a meaningful change now be there's a diversity alliance in hockey. They are calling on the National Hockey League to actually suspend all playoff games. This is the Milwaukee Bucks with their statement last night. Well, um, as you can see, we all thank you guys for taking a hill of your time to stay here with us. I'm sorry that it took a little bit more time, but we thought it would be best for us as a team to brainstorm a little bit, educate ourselves, um and not rushing to having wrong emotions, giving you guys things like that. So on the behalf of ourselves and our team, we we go to place a statement as a team today and go back and continue to educate ourselves and getting better awardeness of what's going on. And then we got speak to you guys later, so we'll come up with a statement then our team statement. The past four months, I've shared a light on the ongoing racial injustice facing our African American community. Citizens around the country of you their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings. Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin, we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Laith being shot in the back seven times by police officer Kenosha and the additional shooting of protesters. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, So our focus today cannot be on basketball. When we take the court and represent Milwaukee in Wisconsin, we are expected to play at a high level, give maximum effort to hold each other accountable. We hold ourselves to that standard, and in this moment, we are demanding the same from lawmakers and law enforcements. We're calling for justice for Jacob Blake and demand the officers be held accountable. For this to occur, it is imperative for the Wisconsin State Legislator to reconvene after months of inaction and take up meaningful measures to address issues of police accountability, brutality, and criminal justice reform. We encourage all citizens to educate themselves, take peaceful and responsible action, and remember to vote on November third, when they happen to the welcome bucks. You tend to finish the season all right, folks. Again, supportive confidence walkout has come from even former NBA players. Here's Chris Chris Webber, a longtime player in the NBA now an announcer for T n T. For no change tomorrow. We know vote, we keep hearing vote, everybody vote. But I'm here to speak for those that are always marginalized, those that live in these neighborhoods where we preach and telling the vote and walk away. Charles Barkley came to my high school. Just seeing him in the locker room, seeing his hands and his body. That inspired me. You can't see something, you can't be something until you see it. And when I tell you the little kids that have called me up that I have a god son, it has autism and I just had to explain to him why we aren't playing. I have young nephews I've had to talk to about death before they've even seen it in a movie. If not now, when, if not during a pandemic and countless lives being lost, If not now, when that's that's all I just want to hear. From the rest of the night, where everybody is pontificating and thinking and soapboxing and all of that, we know nothing is gonna change. We get it. Martin Luther King got shot him, risked his life. Meca. Ever, as if we've seen this in all of our heroes constantly taken down, we understand it's not gonna end. But that does not mean, young men, that you don't do anything. Don't listen to these people telling you don't do anything because it's not going to end right away. You were starting something for the next generation and the next generation to take over. Do you have to be smart, yes. Do you have to make sure that you have a plan. Yes. Do you have to be articulate about that plan. Yes, all of those things. But that's what you're gonna do. Their professionals, they know how to be the best of themselves, and so I applauded. I applauded because it is the young people. It is the young people leading the way, and I applaud him. Tennant star Dambi Olasaki pull out of her semifinals match, tweeting before I am an athlete, I'm a black woman, and as a black woman, I feel as though there are much more important matters at hand that need immediate attention rather than watching me play tennis. Also a head coaches and executives from Cleveland from Cleveland sports teams, the Cavaliers, Browns, and Indians are forming a sports alliance to develop a sustainable and direct strategy to address social injustice. Facing the city of Cleveland, all of northeast Ohio joining me right now, folks, is Craig Hodges, a longtime NBA players, someone who was very much involved in activism while he was in the league. Craig, Welcome to Rolling Martin unfiltered. Craig, are you there? Craig? Are you there? All right? Folks? Let me know, we have the audio for Craig. Let me know when he's there, Uh, so I can go to him. Let me go to my panel. Uh, Erica. Uh, We've never seen this level of collective action in sports, So we have Craig. So, Craig, are you there? Can you hear me? Yeah? Now we got your Craig, Now we got you, Uh, Craig, Craig, We've never seen We've never seen this, guys. Thank you. We've never seen this level of uh collective action in sports. And uh ever to see the actions of players in NBA, soccer, baseball, tennis, hockey. Just your thoughts of what you're seeing. Well, first of all, brother, I want to thank God for you and giving us a venue that is true and correct. And you know right now is historic times. Man. So when I look at it, it's a spiritual blessing that's going on, man, And I truly feel that finally the light is being shared on you know, people that have sojourned and in this land for a long time. And to see the young brother stuff up yesterday and to see people around the world and other athletes pay acknowledgement to our ancestors legacy. Man, it's it's a beautiful thing for me. And now it's about now, I believe, now when the work really begins, because we're it's a paradigm shift and that old reality there's no longer lives. So now we have to create that new reality. And and it's a it's a nice challenge for us as black men and you know, for our the entirety of our community. When you speak to we talked about that particularly issue that so for instance, the players, the players themselves have made it perfectly clear uh in the NBA that they want to do more. That they were on a call with UH with with the owners and making it perfectly clear. I was also reading one story, UH that I found to be interesting, where Michael Jordan's when you played with the Chicago on the on the Charlotte Hornets. Uh. He told the NBA. He said, hey to the owners, listen, listen to them before we start talking um. And and now the owners are realizing that there's gonna have to be more that they do as well. I just got got a statement that was sent out UM by the Baltimore Ravens. Guys go to that. In this statement, the Baltimore Ravens UH say, uh, though we cannot right all the wrongs of our country's history, we can arrest in charge the police officers responsible for Brianna Taylor's killing and the shooting on Jacob Blake. Demand that Senator Mitch McConnell bring the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act to the Senate floor in qualified immunity, required body cameras, band chokeholes, and no knock warrants, whole police accountable in court, establish a framework to prohibit racial profiling, and federal, state and local levels support state and fairly funded uh C A elia A credit should the national standards of care and policing. I think, Craig, when you have all of a sudden owners who are going to realize we have no product without the players, we have no choice but to ride with them. Because the last thing we want is for more of them to say we're not playing, you know, And that's that's Um, that's the dilemma that we have a choice to make. Right now. We have a choice to create a whole new paradigm where it's going to be true ownership sharing, where no longer is gonna be just an elite class of people that own brothers and and have a U. Now is the time for us to sit down as the collective and decide what direction we want to go as stats, entertainers or whatever venue or perspectible in life time to children, total line to be you know, solidly with your people, man, because Nord, I mean history is like because well Nick King called diplomacy and I know when I look at lebrons Um Jana Sutra, Chakumpo, Kevin Durant, I know who we are and I know that this is the generation of fulfillment. So what we're saying the redemption of the people, and it's never been seen in people eyes, especially us who have built everything under the sun. Um, what would be your advice moving forward? Because obviously players are saying we want something to happen. Uh, you have other people who are saying shut up in dribble and so if you if you were talking to them, if they reached out to you. I know that they've reached out to Dwyane Wade and a former players things like that. What would you be advising them as somebody who listens to be real honest, your career ended early because of your activism, right, So for me, when I look at it, they never should have went to the bubble. And you know, no one real, no one will take us serious until we show that we're serious, and we stopped playing games. So for me, when when they blacklisted me in I realized why it was and I realized that now why it is that Michael Jordan is the lead. I understand why Last Dance came out when it and did we have to realize why these things are happening on the corporate level and to realize that who was really on our team? And then you know, I look at them, j Okay, I love you brother and what you're doing. But at the same time, where you've been, you know, so it can't be no Johnny comp lately thing where I'm at, because right now is the most critical point in the history of our people and this nation. So it ain't let me say this Roland to everybody that's listening if we don't realize who sisters are right now, and that I want to apologize to all the sisters that's in the side of my voice and that's seeing me right now that I'm I'm apologizing that I didn't do more with what I could have done when I played, to be able to garner the unity that is necessary in this damn time, to prove to the creator that we deserve divine inheritance, because what you're seeing is a divine inheritance that's coming our way, and now all we have to prove us through unity and love. So I grew up. I'm a baby of the movement, and I I tell my people that we were taught. I love rolling more than love rolling could ever love me. And if we're rolling like that, it ain't never gonna be where I'm gonna pick up a beef with my brother, I'm gonna pick up a weapon that didn't come from me. I'm gonna pick up something that's gonna harm my people. So when I look at this game, we cannot continue to play games until they're no, We're serious. And then I went to thing where if they don't want to make a new collective bargaining agreement, let's walk away. We're eight the product. The last point here I've been sleeve. This is not ending. I got these people who are saying all the players that that they're jumping on this thing. We don't have all the facts. I've had some other people hitting me and I said, guys, they're not striking because of just Jacob Blake. It is this is compound. This is item after item after item that this is what they've said. No, we are not going to use our collective voice to say hell no. And y'all gotta pay attention because if you're watching us play, and if we're not playing endy wise, if you listen to us and and and quite honestly, brother, you know when when George Floyd was murdered Steven Jackson, and it was it was a swell of energy similar to the Doctor King energy time. So we are we got an energy point spiritually that nobody can put a post to, nobody can put a finger on. But we who have been around to see that it's the time, it's time and place for karma, and it's a divine karma to this thing that's coming that you know, some battles ain't even ours. The battles that that are are those that we have control over. We have controltrol over whether or not we go play. And so many times, to me, it's a cowardly move when we go down to the bubble. To me, when I look at the sisterhood, when I look at the sisters in the w n b A, when I look at the sister osaka the tennis player man, the courage involved in that, and I'm saying, come on, brothers, at which point in time are we gonna say we can do? The only thing that the owners provide for us is an infrastructure to play in. That's it. We got the brightest, We got the brightest people on the planet. And our women who can do pay roll, who can do scheduling, who can do uniforms, and can do everything else. So of course the NBA is gonna give a little bit and then bring Michael to the forefront. Michael can't do that. And I'm telling you that I'm older than you are you and not tell try to calm this energy among my young brothers, because it ain't it ain't on you to do that you and don't and don't bring out none of none of the people that you bought out when it was that Donald Sterling garment because within the context of this racial thing going on within the NBA, they sold They wasn't woke when my brother Mike moved up doing what I wanted to say. It's a lot. You wouldn't woke when Craig Hodges went to the White House and tell President Bush the same things. People crying about it today, but we couldn't cry but nine murders in the city of Chicago in where we went in our first raging. We want to go smoke cigars and pop champagne bottles while people are dying. It's over for that. And and check this out, brothers, all of this happening in the height of truck being nominated again. I love it. I love it because it's a spiritual transition that has happening and it ain't no financial transaction. Brothers. So y'all got a choice right now. Choose your people over them trinkets that you think our will because what Lord has for us in divine inheritance is beyond your imagination. And that little four hundred millions ain't nothing, brother, So wake up to who you are in the power that you possess, so that our sisters will respect us once again. And they don't have they have no reason to at this point in time. If we don't prove the righteous that we're ready to lay it on a fine for them and our children, period. Craig Hodges, I appreciate a man. Thank you so very much. Thank you brother one love. This is uh. I mean this, this is a true reckording grad card that we're seeing not just in the NBA but across sports. Not yet, but we're a little closer. As I'm listening to our brother, I was reminded of his book Long Shot. His memoir. At the end of that book, he talks about being allowed to defend his three point championship even though he would know he was no longer in the league, and he talks about Charles Barkley meeting him at All Star weekend of Utah and over and saying, I know what you're going through, brother, and Craig Hodges like, well, if you know what I'm going through, you need to speak up for me, and he said nothing. He ends Long Shot his memoir by saying that these as long as these brothers were in this bubble to use the langues using today, you know they had They didn't have to prove they were men because they were treated as if they were men because they were generating a product. And so he's absolutely right. Lizbeth Williams, who was the secretary of w NBA Players Association at Atlanta Dream, was saying, we had to make this stand all of a sudden. Naomi Osaka is black. She was Japanese until she decided she wasn't gonna play. Because now she's speaking for herself, she says, that's a black woman. Her had her family's station. So I mean, you see this coming up. But when I say we're not there yet, we've seen this before. It took a It took a bloody civil war for this country to finally come to grip with getting rid of chattel, enslavement, direct slavery, and then for a couple of years it was reconstruction, as we always talk about, but then there was the white lash. What we're seeing from white corporate America is not a concession. It's an attempt to contain and maintain control. That's why I just just said what he said then that you know that this is the white lash, this is the redemption moment. This country will only be transformed when like Lebron in them and the white girl tried to clown him. What did you get from thought about it through Malcolm Mack? I think Leron must have been reading that book because he said we shouldn't play anymore, and then the Lakers and the Clippers say we shouldn't play anymore. And when you start hearing that kind of conversation, that's when we will be indeed in a paradigm ship. We're not quite at a paradigm shift right now because this they're trying to still contain this because they understand once that paradigm shift, it's never going back. But the thing that we were seeing here Erica, and not just with them saying we're striking from the game, but we're also seeing is that when you look at what Lebron and others are doing when it comes to raising the money to pay off the debts, for the for the for the brothers and sisters to get the right to vote back in Florida, when you see them launching this initiative to get young folks to work to polls on election day. What you're what you're seeing is and I totally understand what Craig how does this saying, but I think it behooves us to also remember, Craig how does this talking about what happened in nine we're now talking about this is eighteen years later, meaning it's a whole new generation has come about this group of athletes. They're not Michael Jordan's Magic Johnson and those players. This is also a different So I think that that also plays a huge role in there's in terms of what they're seeing. And we cannot overlook Colin Kaepernick in seen because if we also then really unpack this thing, the black athlete who's in the NBA today, who's twenty five, remember he was seventeen with Trayvonne got killed. See all of these things. I think that will happened in the last eighteen years plays a huge role. And I think while we were seeing a different response where yeah, Craig Hodness was all alone when he when he was doing he was doing Erica. Yeah, sure, Roland, I think that's because there was not a real aggressive continuum. So now what we're all feeling is in somewhat kind of complacency that is ruled the day for many, many years. UM on the backdrop of all of the different um violence mechanisms that we've seen against black bodies, they've never stopped. They continued. And then when we think about the w n B A, we think about Maya Moore, whom rocked away so that she could continue to advocate for a black man who had been unjustly locked up for over twenty years. You know, it just kind of all depends on almost you know, where the spotlight is and then that is kind of seawan shine more brightly than it is in other spaces. But I think kind of like in the hour of where we are right now, one of the things that Mr Hodge said that I definitely can appreciate is that in essence, because of all of these different atrocities that have continued to happen to black life, that it would have been um a real stand to say, no, we're not going in the bubble at all. That being that the league, the NBA, is over eight black and they actually have power because most people that watch the game, if they're honest, they're looking to see the swag that a w n B A and NBA player has so when we kind of, you know, kind of peeled back and to use brother Hodge's words when he talked about it is not about smoking these cigars and popping champagne. It really has not been about that. But we're in this pandemic moment. We're in this economic collapse, we are in a housing um crisis. We are now are seeing that this son of a klansman has said that he is going to do his due diligence to ensure that the vote is the vote is actually held up suppressed and read that he's going to do that by any means necessary. To say that this is a time to pause to assess everything. In great that the efforts that they continue to push, but more needs to be done. But here's but here's the deal. Here's the deal right here. Re see, first of all, it was twenty eight years since Craig Hodges and so you've got guys right now in the league who weren't even born when Craig Hodges was being was whiteballed by by the NBA. But but what I am but what I am um hopeful of it's when you see a Kenney steals go from the Panthers to the Texans and he's still involved. He was there when he got arrested. He was a rusted with Jamika Mallory and until freedom. When you're seeing that, you're seeing you. You are seeing a different level of consciousness from these players and what we've seen before, because before it was a few. Now it's a lot more. And I think as we continue, as they continue to get more educated, more connected with the information, and the money has also changed. I mean, we gotta put that out there as well. You got a cat. Now by the time they finished their first contract, they got ten twelve, twenty million they've made and so the money also changes the ability to be able to determine you use your voice. Yeah, I mean I I give a lot of credits to the NBA and w NBA players because, to be honest, I mean, being on social media, you see a lot of black people who make every excuse to do just even the bare minimum of voting. And so these people are putting their lively as down the lines and they don't have actually any direct impact on Mitch McConnell, are on the Wisconsin legislator, but the legislature, but they are still taking a very strong stance, and I applaud them for that, and I do applau that they are encouraging more civic engagement. And I think that that's really the takeaway for me is that this isn't saying we are martyrs in this situation and we alone can fix it. What they're saying is, let's all stop, take a pause and really recognize the severity of this situation and how we can be engaged and how we can be involved. You know, I mean, I I applaud with brother I just said as well, and I applaud the stand that he took. But I also do see that these that these NBA players and w NBA players and Naomi Socca and others are doing something very powerful in this moment, and in particular when we have the Republican National Convention that for the past three days has created this alternate reality in which the boogeymen are not the police who are gunning down black people, but the ones who are actually protesting for a better America. You know, they made out Corey Bush, who won her who want the primary challenge against Lacey Clay, as an enemy of the state. And it's it's absolutely ridiculous. So I think that the timing of them making this very strong stance does help to shift the narrative. It does help to shake the consciousness to the extent that that's even possible in this country. And um, I applaud them. I don't think it's I don't think that they have any more responsibility than we do that we excuse ourselves out of doing every day collectively as a society. Everybody, my hats offered to them. Everybody has a role. Tomorrow, folks of the anniversary, the Marching Washington for Jobs and Freedom taking place uh here in Washington, d C. They'll be gathering at the at the Lincoln Memorial. There will be a march from Linko Memorial to the m OK Memorial. It will also be a love stream and virtual will be carrying it as well. Join me right now to the folks, gonna be speaking to make a turner. She is the widow of Race Shard Brooks, an attorney Chris Steward to make and Chris clad to how you roller markin unfiltered? Uh to mareak of you there? Yeah, I'm here, got you, Okay, make sure you can hear me. So tomorrow you'll be speaking tomorrow. Um, what do you want the people who are going to be there in person and the folks who are going to be there virtually, what do you want them? Not just to take away from what you're gonna say, what do you want them to do? I'm pretty much I want them to, uh just stand up for justice and continue you know, peaceful protests and now on that go out and vote so that laws can be changed and there can be reformed within policing. Chris Stewart, when you talk about that, I mean, look, you see the pushback when officers were fired there in Atlanta involving the case of Richard Brooks, but also those two students who were snatched out of their car from more House and spellmen. You have these cops who fight back and forth. I mean, look, these are entrenched institutions and it's gonna take sustained action. Yeah. I mean people have to realize, I mean me and you've been talking about these cases since Walter Scott um and getting changes hard. I mean, the unions are a very strong factor and a very strong force behind a lot of these police departments. Um, and we have to look past just the comp who killed somebody. We've got to look at the chief and the internal affairs department, UM, and the union. I mean you have to look at the entire system. UM, tamaka we have obviously. I mean, you know you're part of a group. UM. Some call it the lack of better phrase. They say, um uh sorority a group of women who mothers of the movement, whise of the movement, who have had to to publicly deal with grief. Uh. In is high profile cases. UM. How have you had? How have you dealt with that? Uh? This is not something that you asked for. No one asked to be put in this situation. Correct, You're right about that. UM. It's hard dealing with it, It really is. It becomes emotional roller coaster each and every day because you want to be strong and you also don't want people to think you weak. So sometimes it's hard when I want to get very emotional and cry, and I have to hold it in so that I can continue, like how I'm doing speaking with you to get my point and my word across, so that justice can be serving that I'm heard clearly, UM and uh. And we talk about you know, speaking that out. But the other thing is the reality that you gotta continue to relive it. And and then the other pieces though, is that if you don't tell the story, we know that the family UH puts a face on it as opposed to no disrespect to Chris and his law partner. But the reality is that's that's how people see it, is that they want to hear from the family. So you have to continue to UH to be there speaking and talking about it, right. And that's what's really hard. I mean, it's it's really hard. It becomes overwhelming, but it's something that I have to do. If I don't do it, who will, Um? Chris? Someone are you and Justin Miller? Um? When we talk, when we talk about next steps, when we talk about man, when is this thing going to end? Um? And I hate to say it, but look, black folks have been dealing with this UH for decades, for centuries, Um, But do you think that we're operating in a different moment now we're one far more African Americans electric position, far more African Americans who are d a s UH. And so you now have black faith folks who are who are a part of this system, who are now inside, who say not only now, only can we affect this externally, but not to get affected internally. Yeah, there are there are more now, um, but we're still seeing the same things. And and like to Mika said, we just have to keep on pushing and keep keep on putting that energy out there so that if people know that until real change happens, then we'll be doing this until two you know, two thousand thirty. Um. The qualified immunity, immunity reforms, the reforms to the way police uh don't de escalate situations and use lethal force when it's not necessary are things that we cannot stop fighting for. And if they don't happen, then we're just gonna keep going. So right now, I'd say, yes, it is a different situation than it is in the sixties, but it's not good enough to where we can let up at one bit. Absolutely. Chris final comment, Chris, finally, Yeah, I mean we just gotta keep it going, man, like even you know, you continue to push this, all the media, continue to push this, the celebrities coming forward and using economic power, which is the quickest way to change. Um. Marches are great, but when companies start losing money, UM, then that's where change is gonna start. Happening because they will start pressuring those police departments. UM, so just keep pushing, well, um to make a turner safe travels for you to watch in DC tomorrow, saying for you Chris Stewart as well. We'll be there live streaming the events tomorrow, and we thank you very much for joining us. All Right, all right, folks, thank you so very much. Gotta go to a break. When we come back, we'll talk about economics. What happens when black people do what they're supposed to do, buying a home, all those good things, and then white folks decide to undercut the value of their home. Will talk to a sister who saw it happen with her very own eyes, and she will explain what happened when she got rid of all of her black stuff. It's amazing how the number just increased. And Nicki Haley says, you died dealing with racism in America. M hmm, you're watching Rollanmartin unfilter. Do you want your gout Rollobo un filter YouTube dot com, Ford slash rolland s Martin subscribe to our YouTube channel. There's only one daily digital show out here that keeps it black and keep it real. It's Rollombo Unfiltered. Shed name right there, Rollan Martin Unfiltered, like Share, subscribe to our YouTube channel as YouTube dot com, Ford, slash rolland s Martin and don't forget to turn your notifications so when we go live you'll know it. The community comes together to support the fight against racial injustice. I want to take a second to talk about one thing we can do to ensure our voices are heard. Not tomorrow, but now, have your voices heard in terms of what kind of future we want by taking between twenty cents. It's today at twins dot gov and folks, let me help you. The census is account of everyone living in the country. It happens once every teen years. It is mandated by the U s Constitution. The thing that's important is that the census informs funding billions of dollars how they are spent in our communities every single year. I grew up in Clinton Park in Houston, Texas, and we want to We wanted new parks and roads and Senior citizens Center. With the census helps inform all of that and where funding goes. It also determines how many seats your state will get in the US House representatives. 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I'm Jack Brewer, a former three time NFL team captain, college professor, coach, husband, son, and father. I'm also a lifelong Democrat, but I support Donald Trump. Let me be clear, I didn't come here for the popularity or the praise, the likes, or the retweets. I'm here as a servant to God, a servant to the people of our nation, and a servant to our President. I grew up in Gray Vne, Texas, a town that my great grandfather was the first black man to settle as a share cropper in e My early high school experience included fighting with skin heads and being in witness in an attempt to murder trial after my friends shot a skin head in self defense. I remember my dad's bravery when he personally stood up against a KKK rally in my town. In my house, my father taught me to back down from no one. I know what racism looks like. I've seen the first hand in America. It has no resemblance to President Trump, and I'm fed up with the way he's portrayed in the media, who refused to acknowledge what he's actually done for the black community. It's confused in the minds of our innocent children. Before I left the come deliver this message, my energetic eight year old son, Jackson, stopped me and said, Dad, can you please just tell everyone that all lives need to matter and that God loves everyone. In that moment, I realized that my eight year old had figured out with so many adults have seemed to forget, we are not as divided as our politics suggest. At some point, for the sake of our children, the policies must take priority over the personalities. So because you have an issue with President Trump's tone, you're going to allow Biden and Harris to the to the NYE are underserved black and brown children's school choice always so offended by the President's campaign slogan make America Great Again, that we're going to ignore that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have collectively been responsible for locking up countless black men for non violent crimes. Are you going to allow the media the lot of you by fall see claiming that he said there were very fine white supremacis in Charlottesville, He didn't say that. It's a lie, And ignore the so called Black Lives Matter organization that openly on their website called for the destruction of the nuclear family. My fellow Americans, our families need each other. We need black fathers in the homes with their wives in children. The future of our communities depend on it. I'm blessed to be able to run inner city youth programs into also teach in prisons across America. The inmates in my federal prison program literally received days off their sentence just for attending my class, and that stinks to President Donald Trump in his first step back. I am Clarence Henderson. There have been movements that have changed the course of history. Among the most extraordinary was a civil rights movement sixty years ago. Segregation was legal and enforce The simple act of sitting at a lunch counter could lead to physical harm, jail time, or worse, I know from personal experience, by sitting down to order a cup of coffee. We challenged injustice. We knew it was necessary, but we didn't know what would happen. We faced down the KKK. We were cursed at and called all kinds of names. They threatened to kill us, and some of us were arrested, but it was worth it. Our actions inspired similar protests throughout the South against racial injustice, and in the end, segregation was abolished and our country moved a step closer to true equality for all. That's what actual peaceful protests can accomplish. America isn't perfect we're always improving. But the great thing about this country is that it's not where you come from, it's where you're going. And am the only one out of my immediate family who graduated from college and HBCU. I'm a military veteran and a civil rights activist. And you know what else, I'm a Republican and I support Donald Trump. If that sounds strange, you don't know your history. It was the Republican party that passed the thirteenth Amendment abolished in slavery. It was a Republican party that passed the fourteenth Amendment giving black men citizenship. It was a Republican party that passed the fifteenth Amendment giving black men the right to vote. All right, and here's Mike Pens. We've seen violence and chaos in the streets of our major cities. President Trump and I will always support the right of Americans to peaceful protests. The rioting and looting is not peaceful protest. Tearing down statues is not free speech, and those who do so will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Last week, Joe Biden didn't say one word about the violence and chaos engulfing cities across this country. So let me be clear, the violence must stop, whether in Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha. Too many heroes have died defending our freedom to see Americans strike each other down. We will have law and order on the streets of this country for every American of every race and creed and color. Joe Biden says that America is systemically racist and that law enforcement in America as and I quote an implicit bias against minorities. When asked whether he'd support cutting funding law enforcement, Joe Biden replied, yes, absolutely, Joe Biden would double down on the very policies that are leading to violence in America's cities. The hard truth is you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America. And under President Trump, we will always stand with those who stand on the thin blue line, and we're not going to defund the police, not now, not ever. He had damn thing and that's sorry ass speech where he talked about seven shots in the back of Jacob Blake out of here, damn thing, uh Erica when it came to when it came to uh anything about the cops nil. On the next see his the deal all that Lettle nonsense, then, Charles Henderson, Look, you could have been in the nineteen and sixties, six and sixty city in all of that. But he was lying last night when he said Donald Trump is fully funded. HBCUs, that's just a lie. It's a flat out live and you know you gotta be it's gotta be real bad for you to skip over the last fifty years and you got to go back to the eighteen hundreds to figure out what Republicans have done. Erica gone right ahead, Well, Roland, I think that the reason why we didn't hear any of those um you know, anything um related to Jacob Blake is because we saw a clan rally. And so why would you hear any type of remorse um over the shooting of Jacob Blake. Why would you hear any empathy for the family for Jacob Blake, whose life has been drastically changed at only twenty nine years old. That this young man has had his intestines and his colon removed, and, as you reported at the top of the show, is now being handcuffed by a slave patrol member. You're not gonna hear that, particularly when they're telegraphing this maskless, disgusting message from Fort Henry, Maryland, which is uh, the home of many Confederate statues. So you know, everything that we heard is definitely in lockstep with the regime leader, the son of a klansman. So he wasn't talking to a diverse group. He's talking to the same person that ensured that brown immigrants and their children, their babies were locked in cages. He's talking to the same group that feels them as though assimilation is the best way to be connected. And that's for that tope in crowd. This was not a message for America. This was a message for white America, for those who can now boldly really move forward. And UM have this kind of coded message that says that well, because they do in fact stand for law enforcement, particularly not around UH. This so called UM president who has been using the Constitution as toilet paper since he actually walked into office. We're talking about a person that UM was impeached by the House for obstructing Congress, UM and for abuse against this government, for against this country, that the Senate, which has led by Republicans, refused to impeach, and when in fact, Mitch McConnell went on Hannity and said in December of twenty nineteen that they were in concert with the White House and that they were going to do everything that was possible to ensure that the President was in fact acquitted, so to speaking, I'm paraphrase a bit, but all of that to say, this was really par for the course, UM, especially from Mike Pence and from UM to those individuals that were gathered there racing gone gonehead, well gone ahead with gone ahead, I mean, We're not safe in Trump's America. So this whole notion that all of the ship that we're seeing right now and Donald Trump's America is what we have to be afraid of. And Joe Biden, Kamala Harris is America now, and these quizzling negroes that they put out there to say stupid things like all lives matter are I don't know racism and I don't see racism and Donald Trump, have you not seen how this person has operated. We don't have to just listen to what Donald Trump says, which is incredibly racist. We've actually seen the way Donald Trump has governed for the past four years almost and so this is not a hypothetical, This is not an academic exercise. This is what we've seen every single day from this white nationalist administration. And so for Mike Pantist up there and talk about law and order, the Trump administration is a crime syndicate. I truly believe that we're looking at rigo charges for all of these people in the Trump administration and the Trump family once they leave office and they investigate all of the things that they've been doing, all of these financial crimes which Tisch, James and Sivance in Manhattan on their ass about they're gonna have some really, really big problems. But we've seen completely complete lawlessness, as Erica said, wiping their ass with the constitution. We still have a Muslim ban in place, we still have child separation in place, we still have black people being gunned down by the police. We still have slave patrols that seem to be even more emboldened since they had those two uh, racist white people from Minnesota, you know, parading their guns around on the Republican National Convention. And so this obviously the audience is for the people who want to assimilate with white supremacy and for the white supremacists themselves. But I don't see how anybody can watch this and walk away believing anything that these people are saying. But unfortunately we don't point these things out in the way that last week it was all about this person didn't get to speak, and you know this wasn't this didn't check all these boxes. And yet you have a whole as clan rally that's been broadcast for the past three days, and you don't hear the same level of outrage or even attention being brought to what these people are putting fourth in terms of their vision of America that people were on Body Harris's case about momline in great, go ahead, do what you do, your assess your assessment. No no, no no, I think Eric and re see a frame this person. It is a clan rally. It's a white nationalist terrorist clan value um and brother Henderson is absolutely right about the Republican Party reconstruction. As you say, see, white nationalism is a floating signified. It can apply to different moments of time, different so yees. During the eighteen sixties and seventies, it was the Radical Republicans that Charles Sumnon and Battius Stevens and yes, the Democratic Party, the party Andrew Jackson was the kind of locust for the White Nationalist Party. The White Nationals Party can float anywhere. And because of the efforts of Brother Henderson and those stalwarts of the civil rights movement who penetrated the Democratic Party, it drove many of the open white Nationals into the Republican Party. Uh. The brother said, we don't know history, and I'm not gonna lay that at North Carolina a n D. I mean I would sense the state. I hope that if you had gotten a degree from there to be a little bit different. But Jack Robinson was a Republican who recognized what was happening very at very gold Wide was nominated nineteen sixty four. But to Erica's point and Reese's point, again, this does not This must be said over and over again, even as the ratings were down yesterday, because you know, we don't we don't really watch that boat. So, I mean, you know that's that we want some people hate watch because I really enjoy my pen and I'll tell you why. This is where I'm going with this. Among others, Charles Blow said it again, their job is to erase history and cloud reality. Uh. Pen standing at Fort mckinna. Them using the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial of the White House. They are reclaiming there too. They are reclaiming their symbols. These symbols were never meant. So you see Milania Trump tried out in her uh paramilitary green with her catatonic facelifted behind, moving from Talponia the telephone. Bullshit, what does she just saying? She's not talking to me. I don't share a country with Melannia Trump. Are you very serious? Of all the first ladies in the history of the White House, only one of them ben butt necked and porno, And so she represents the ideal of white womanhood for white man. That's very clear. I'm not mad at Kim Clasica, Vernon, John Jones, or I'm not mad at Jack Grower David Cameron. Why because clearly their strategy is going to be to get the selection close enough to steal, and they're trying to lash black overhype made masculinity, to white overhype masculinity, and maybe trying to peel a few black men away from going to the pole. But when you saw Sterling Brown read that statement, brother standing next the George Hill of the Milwaukee. But you reported on this two years ago. Sterling Brown is the brother who the damn had a roll of police punk ass police that Hayes in the in the parking lot for the seven eleven in Milwaukee. When you saw Robert Ory earlier today or yesterday, say, you know, if one of these cops takes my son's like, I'm gonna take his life, I'm like Samuel Jackson. Yes. And when you saw Chris Webber, when you saw him tear up, those are tears of sadness. But he was looking down the whole time when he's talking about Charles Martley. This is a man who was remembering when he was a boy coming out of school in Michigan to go to University of Michigan. Then they stripped them of all their records and then he this is a man who said I did every thing right. Won't be unto you, you white nastals? Do you do? You're the White Nationals Party in the Republican Party, and guess where you're at right now. I want you to smiling, Mike. I want you to tell everyone you got baby. I want you to stand in front of Fort Henry because when Francis Scott. He wrote the Star Spangled Banner, there were black enslaved Africans and Baltimore swimming to get to the ships of the British because they were trying to get to the British because your white ass was on the wrong side of history. I want you to embrace it. These Naken memorial I want you to embrace the Jefferson Memorial and the White House. I want you to throw uh Jackie Kennedy's roses out and remake the Rose Garden into a replica a gorky park in Russia. You know why, because it ain't never been my country, and you know what I'm writing for, it is my humanity. I want you to embrace it with your whole heart, baby, because some of these stupid feet in the world now are gonna be very clear that we each have to make a choice. Are you gonna go down the line with these fascists who are going to destroy you? A woman got the nerve to talk about she had breast cancer and her life was saved. That's why she supports sports President Trump, who is trying to overturn the very damn Affordable Air Act that saved her life. Do you want to be on the same team as a nun who shook hands with the double last night? Do you really want to If you want to be with that tame, I encourage you to go back nineteen fifteen when they refounded the clan on the top of Stone Mountain. They had a Bible that they opened and burned across and stuck a sword over the top of the bible. That's that thing, David Cameron doing your white white We don't put the cop that that killed Brianna Taylor in jail. But guess what, I ain't gonna protest but too baby, We're gonna stee you in the street. Come folks. When Nicki Hanley's folks, she talked about this no no racism, and you heard what Mike Penn said. But this story here speaks to it. A gat I said to be a Florida couple whose home appraisal was very low. Tell what happened. So the praisal comes out, give them a low appraisal. She goes hold on the same aw this thing when so she then goes in and removes the black items new a praiser comes out much higher value. Yo. People keep talking about we don't have racism in America, But why do these things that keep happening? And then you have those who say, oh, that's that's you know, you're bringing those things up. Those are just you know, small little details. No they're not quite small details. When you're African American and literally your financial future is being impacted by racism. So let me unpack it. The reason I say you're financial future. Remember most Americans their wealth comes through home ownership. And so when you were in a situation where you have a home and you get less for your money, that's less money. But you can't invest what you can't place elsewhere. That's what we have to understand how racism still impacts us in the twenty one century. John is right now is a being a horton. Uh, she's a woman who went through this here being explain expokes exactly what happened here that that caused you to say, uh, no, something is amiss here. Well, for me, it was. I mean when he came into the house, he was he was so rude um to me in comparison to my husband, um. And he was so hostile when he saw me and and sort of aggressive, just like you know, you could tell when someone has contempt for you. Um, that was something that I can really feel in the room with him, and I just wanted him out of my house right away. So now your husband, uh is uh again? Uh? So the guy who came was white guy. Yes, Okay, so he comes, So it comes to your home and you I merely pick up on that, Okay, go ahead. Well, I mean he conversed with my husband first outside on on our doorstep, and I could see that from my office, and he was acting pretty normal. And then when he came into my office to look at the room, he just seemed very surprised and to me, very contemptuous. I I felt like there was a shift sort of in the air. Um. And and to me, it felt like there was some personal issue that he had with me specifically. Um. And so I just did not expect that the appraisal was going to go well. And I remember distinctly thinking that this appraisal is not going to go well. Um, there was a certain number that we needed to hit so that we would be able to get the best rate for refinance transaction. And I didn't think we're gonna we were gonna get it. So so you so you thought, hey, this is really a four and fifty thou now house, well, you know, or just in in that in that neighborhood. And then on the best day, I would say, you know, like I've I've scan Zillo like most people do to just check, and I think that's about as high as I've ever seen it go. So you know, that's that's definitely kind of around the high end. I would say, you know, around four fifty between, but that's not the number that he came back with. No, he came back with three thirty. So there was a difference of a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars a stroke of a pen um. He took that much equity. And again for the people who are watching to understand, we will talk about home appraisals. So when they come out, what they do is they come out and they look at everything. Look at did you add a pool? They look at condition of the home, all these different things that had nothing to do with it. Yeah, now that that had nothing to do with it. Um um. I have no idea why he chose the comps that he chose. I have no idea why he would appraise us three thirty when you know, there's homes around us that are much smaller, fewer bathrooms, your bedrooms that were regularly going in the high threes um, and the homes with four bedrooms like mine, we're going significantly higher than that. And the problem here that people don't understands that when the homes are appraised again, this is all subjective, that this is not this is not like there's a sheet here where it's okay if it's three bedrooms of four bedrooms. I mean typically Actually the way it's supposed to go is that when you do have largest grare footage, more rooms, more bedrooms, more bathrooms, approved amenities, you get a higher appraisal, you would think. And also I think, um one of the more subjective terms is condition of the home. Right, that's something that that factors in as well. Um. So I think that's something where that really has to do with the eye of the appraiser. They're inside the house. I'm really observing you know, small, small different says. They're looking for termites, they're looking for you know, structural damage, that sort of thing, um, and they pretty much say good condition, back condition, you know, very good condition, you know, something like that to to make the assessment, and it's a combination of factors between public records and what the appraiser is seeing. And for some reason, these two appraisers saw something that was a hundred and three five dollars apart. Now let's go let's go back. He was he was fine talking to your husband, right right. He appeared to be normal, and that's what my husband thinks as well. But then he saw you correct. Difference between and what difference between you and your husband? Well, I'm a lady and I'm a black. I'm a black woman. Um, so you know there was a bit of a difference. I attribute the change to being Um, I thought it was based on some personal characteristic and my suspicion is that it was rice right, but you black, Your husband's not correct, and so he sees the white guy that he sees you all hell noll. So then you be a lord, you say, and your bank agree with you on this one. So then you did something that actually showed what the deal is? What what did you do? So what I did was is I I took down all of our family pictures that showed that there were African Americans living in the home, took down holiday holiday cards, took down any books. I really am not sure at what these appraisers are looking at, but you know I took away anything visible that would um you should basic. You stripped all the blackness at the house. I stripped the blackness out of the house. And I did not like that. It was very painful to do that. And then a new appraiser comes out, same company or so this was this was a different company because the bank hired a different company too to handle it. New a praiser comes out, and then what number do you get? We get four sixty five? Um, so three thirty four. I'm hearing a lot you know this. I'll started with the Facebook post and there's been a lot of activity they're talking about, well, you know, it could have been this, It could have been that. It didn't necessarily have to have been raised. But a bana bana. You don't go from three thirty two fold sixty five. Because one person said, I really like the crown molding. That's correct, and it's abena like Robin, I'm sorry, I mean that that so so what see the thing that the reason that this is important because I deal with these white folks and some of these black people who are like, oh, y'all make too much out of this, when it's like, no, this is precisely it. One of the reasons why you have the wealth gap is because black people's homes were greatly undervalue. They were not able to then sell those homes at a higher price and then pocket that money, invest that money. And so we had lower home values, which meant lower a lower amount, and we don't have much to play with. And this is mean that a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars you take that invest that all of a sudden, your children's children are impacted based upon what you do with a hundred and thirty five tho dollars. And this is exactly what people say when you so when the Nick Behaviors of the world and the Mike Pences of the world, and both people say, oh, no, there's no racism. No, this is racism at work right here. I mean, I think we all have biases. People of every race and color have have biases. And I think it's ridiculous to say that there are no biases, that there's no racism in the world. I mean, it's just dis ingangerous. I don't understand why you can even make that argument given that we're just fifty sixty years out of civil rights, that's not that much time, you know, to change hearts and minds are still an undercurrent there. So, I mean, I do believe that systemic racism exists, and in this case, I would like, you know, the reason that I brought this out and that I want to educate people about it, and a lot of people don't know about this issue, is because I would like someone to do a study on this. Right. Oh no, that the first of that being studies. That's been the studies. They have been blind testing and Boston they did this, they've done this when it came to showing of homes and the real tripical all you're blind, No, we're gonna show you these homes. And they're like, well, hold on, show me the homes over there. No, no, no, well show you over here. I mean, those things exist. Now the company that the appraiser, what has happened to them that y'all report them? Anything happened Alexa, turn on kitchen light. Excuse me, that was my son's bedroom. Uh, he's like coming out, it's all right, it's all right. So the praiser did y'all report this report this guy. Uh that y'all that y'all blast the company what happened? So we reported um the end of Jule and the company to HUD. We have not blasted this individual. I have no intend to do that. UM. I intend to let the investigation play itself out and so that they can explain this a hundred and thirty five thousand dollar difference to me in a way that makes sense. And if it does not make sense, I'm going to continue to believe that it was racism at work in my life. Are you going to see him? You know, I don't know that. Money has never been, you know, an issue with this. It's always been about basically my feelings and me wanting to tell people what happened to me, you know, So I don't want to say it either way, especially since they're probably watching so their asses. Look. Look, look the reason I understand it. Look, I remember when I bought a previous home and the bank had the nerve to ask uh me and my wife for deposit slips because they did not necessarily believe the income. I'm like, I'm like, giving your deposit slips. I'm like, Dad, ain't happening. Of course, I ain't giving you that because the day I'm money direct deposit like you know, then deposits flip. But again, those are the things that happened. And then we're like yesterday, we we you know, we we had you know, people to understand successful black people are impact. Now. I was debating social Yesterday's Republican and I was like, boo, it don't matter if you're a successful black person. This is the stuff that happens where we get screwed. No, you can do everything right, you know, go the right schools, get the degrees, get married, have two kids and a dog, try to buy a house, and there's just all these little ways that add up to really keep you from attaining the same equality that other people have. Indeed, indeed, well look good luck with it. First of all, thank you for sharing your story. The New York Times picked up on it the Facebook post. A lot of people have seen it, and it's caused a lot of people to tell their story about what they've experienced as well. And hopefully what it also has done, it's caused folks who really didn't understand this to not be more mindful when it comes to home appraisal and to do this, make sure that more than one person actually UH is doing the home appraise where you're getting a better understanding, because yeah, you're right, you should not have to strip your blackness in order to get high value or the proper value of your home. I don't think it should be that subjective at all. Subjective means there's a problem with the industry, whether it's race or whatever. Put that person on blast and the company and sue, they asked, Okay, I'm done. We appreciate it, thank you so very much, thank you very much, my panels. This is this is the thing re see where people don't People just refuse to understand. And this is how black people are impacted. This is how we impacted economically. That economic keeps us from being able to fund businesses, give to colleges, uh, position for our children. And this is how this is a perfect example of how white people are able to have the highest amount of white wealth in the country and black folks for the lowers, because that's how we get screwed. I absolutely and I think that it's a perfect example of how when people try to suggest that economic um reforms are going to solve racism, now, absolutely not. She didn't get a lower appraisal because a white person doesn't have Medicare for all. She got a lower appraisal because the person was flat out racist. And you know, this has a compounding impact because not only is it a matter of equity, but as she mentioned, it was a matter of her interest rate. And so the how are your interest rate is the more that you're paying on a monthly basis. So now you have the wage yeat that black people experience are as a black woman sixty one, it's on the dollar for what a white man makes. Now she's married to a white husband, so that kind of metigates a little bit. But you know, in terms of her specific racism that she's going to experience, you have the wage you got thing, you turned around and you have lower equity in your house. Then you turn around and you pay more on a monthly basis for the same for the house that is worth significantly more. And so I'm glad that she's told the story because at the end of the day, black people have to survive, and it's very painful to have to strip the blackness from your home. But for a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars, I think people would rather take down a couple of pictures and a couple of statues and not take their chances. But it should not take doing that. You should not take having to hire multiple appraisals. Those things are expensive. They're like four hundred and five hundred dollars, six hundred dollars, and so it's it's disgusting, but it's very insidious. It goes beyond redlining, and it goes beyond all these things that people are already accustomed to expecting, um racism in the real estate industry. But this is this is the thing here, Gregg, that um, you're right, we shouldn't have to take things down because again, Allly, people who keep saying, oh, no, we're all the same, We're all everyone's in the same boat. No, you need to stop seeing colors, stop fixating on that. And to your point earlier, we can do all the right damn thing. We can go to the school rules, we cannot have a criminal record, we can never do drugs, we can never j walk. We could sit here, take the base out of our voice and have more trouble in our voice. We could do all those things, and then they're gonna still remind you your ass still black absolutely and Brolan. You know, it's just the Abena is a lawyer and she knows this. I'm sure she took it in law school. Let me teach this every semester when I do my race Law and change class at Howard. We go over the Fair Housing Act of nineteen sixty eight, which is in many ways very two things. Um, you have to understand that even complained to Hood won't do anything. Hood has the ability to file a suit independent of UH and her husband. They can they can actually pursue this, but they won't UH. And what we just heard is not an outlying case. White realtors for years, actually since the passage of Fair Housing Act have said that when you're selling a home or refinancing a home, they encourage do When they're selling a home, they encourage people to take out all the stuff that personalized the home. That's what they stay generous. But we understand that this is being driven by perception. You see, money is only a marker for value, and value is a co mingled thing. It isn't just about objectively measuring out the land and looking at the quality of the construction of the house. No, this is about perception. The New York Times article notes that before the second appraiser came, Abana took her husband and she and her husband's child and went and left the house, leaving that white man there by himself. So the appraiser is looking through the lens of white nationalism, of course, but that appraiser is calculating in their head value based on a potential sale to a customer. So this isn't just about who how much the house is worth. It's about how much can we get on the market, and that is absolutely dates on perception. The history of housing since the Fair Housing Act has revealed to us that it is a particularly ineffective tool when it comes to this specific category, because again, this is being driven by perception, and the appraises defense will be this is what I thought I could get on the market. If they would be an honest, it would say this is what I think I can get on the market from a buyer, and that says they don't want to buy from a black person. It's the same reason they had restrictive covenants in more in housing mortgages, it's a it's a difficult thing to win in the court of law, and I know, I would have knows that, which is probably one of the reasons why she didn't really want to talk about it. Ahead I'm sorry, Yeah, I think Erica. Yes, yeah. And and this kind of just goes back to show you that, you know, the whole kind of speech that many were given about being ten times better, UM, having to do more would ensure kind of permitting the black life into a better part of society, is this is not it because we cannot take our skin off. And so until there is a real addressing UM really that everything that we see systemically, whether visible or invisible, has really been created to diminish the quality of life for black people and continue to hold white people UM at this place, the pinnacle, the summit of what it needs to live and to be free, will continue to experience and see things like this, and and that is kind of the part of UM how we really traverse through black life understanding that you know, while one colleague may be talking about refinancing their home and having it be a seamless process, there's so many different steps that we have to take in order to make sure that our process is something that is something that we could actually digest. So this is just another um full example of systemic racism and really just continuing to project that the best life is the white lights. Well that is uh, that is certainly the case what we're dealing with, Folks, gotta go to break we come back. 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This is a robo call has been going out to black people in Detroit. Listen to this. Jared the other thing that happened overnight is that the NBA has now postponed games in large part as the result of a protester or boycott by the players. UH. This relates to the sort of large This is the super rights organizations founded by Jack Berkman and Jacob Boll. Male and voting sounds great, but they do know that if you vote by mail, your personal information will be part of other public databates that will be down one company to collect outstanding debt. The CDC is even to give practice for mail and voting to attract people from mandatory effects. Don't be conned to give information to the main they say, where's so the Secretary of State go to iPad. This is what Jocelyn Benson put office has received. The recording of the robo called targeting Detroit voters using racially charged stereotypes and false information to deter voting by mail. It is an uncomfortable, indefensible, blatant attempt to lie the citizens about their right to vote. H Jacob, Jacob wol and Jack Berkman UH two insidious individuals who they've had numerous things in the past where they've lied, light lied, and to sit here and say, oh, your personal information. This is the kind of stuff recy that black fools better get used to. The Republicans are going to employ. They do not want black people turning out in this election. It's all about suppression. They do not have to convince you that Donald Trump is going to be a good president. All they have to do is to convince you not to vote. And so we have to be very very vigilant and how we are receiving information and making sure that we're educated. Voting Plan A, voting Plan B, voting Plans C, and voting Plan D. And then once you set those plans, you have to keep checking. We're only under seventy days away, so we don't have much longer to go, which is why we have to get prepared now. Um recently, I'm sorry, Erico, go ahead, Yeah, absolutely. And when you think about the seen election Michigan Wisconsin, UM, we're two of the three states that were heavily targeted, and we saw voter suppression upwards of two hundred thousand votes uh in the state of Wisconsin based on voter I D laws. And when we see the margin of victory for um, Donald Trump, it was seventy seven thousand votes, but that was because of a very very concerted voter suppression and action plan and Russian interference and so these and we you know, we're talking about being woke. This is a part of being woke understanding that these kind of calls that are coming out of the normal during the election season, and that they're coming to areas where they're high concentration of black folks, that it's something that is really designed only to as recent just said, to suppress your vote and really to create another level of voter ampathy. So, um, people need to be aware that this is you know, all of the guards have been taken off, They've got a two hundred million dollar add by that's gonna start being in effect. Labor Day weekend is only going to get worse from here. Get ready and be prepared to cast your ballot early, um and with friends. Greg story Anthony on my iPad. Uh, this is a story about NBC viral pro Trump tweets came from fake African American spam accounts, Twitter says, uh and being. The story reads that Twitter has taken action to stop a spam operation that pushed messages from fake accounts about black people abandon the Democratic Party. The company removed to fake accounts and deleted the account of a San Diego man who spammed the platform. Again, this is what they're going to be doing, greg Um. So this guy had had this account UH went dim to rep locked over eleven thousand retweets on a single tweet that claimed that the user was a lifelong Democrat who was pushed to vote Republican by the Black Lives Matter movement. The tweet was posted shortly after the account was created Tuesday. First of all, that's the first sign if account just opened last week. They fake m hm, absolutely, brother, I mean, I agree everything that recent Erica have said in terms of this full spectrum strategy. The White Nationalist Party is going to win this selection by stealing if they're going to win it. They are now. They've abandoned all pretenses. They are speaking to their utterly racist base. They are in courts. There's a there's a story that just broke today. Uh. The Trump administration won a victory in the Iowa courts when the judge said that the registrar couldn't send out uh information for people to get absentee ballots because they pre filled out their names to send them out. Uh, there's going to be all kinds of lives told like this story, these two stories you just said. They're going to do everything they can to get it close enough to steal. And when you read or listen to Greg polast and many others already burmaning them, they'll tell you they've been doing this for the last several sites. So many absentee ballots that are turned in or provisional ballot votes are thrown away. Once they get the ballots, they can decide that the signatures don't match, which is why I have from Maryland. Of course my envelope to request an AFTEE ballot. But I'm gonna be massed up, gloved up, and and I has matt suit if I need to be. I'm getting in line and voting in person. Why because, let's be very clear, folks who don't have the option yet absentee. But if you can go in person early vote, if you can get off the day, take the day and go and vote. Why Because what these white supremacists, why these white nastals are getting ready to do is use every trick they have to get the election close enough to steal. And finally for my deep friends and colleagues and comrade who are saying the vote doesn't matter, all the parties are the same. I understand that logic, I really do. The only thing I would ask you is that if and when they steal this election and you didn't vote, which meant you did vote by your absence, I just want to make sure that all of you are strapped, all of you are ready to take it to the streets and the bushes, and that you can embrace what comes next with your whole heart. Because what we are talking about is not a full embrace of the democratic agenda. But what we're talking about is perhaps for stalling what may even be the inevitable, which is the disintegration of this set, the state project, because these white boys gonna roll. Listen to the wheels literally falling off. So think twice before you say don't vote, because if you're not ready to get in the street and do that, I think you better just gonna strap up and check your vote registration and try to forestall this thing. Donald Trump is speaking tonight, But the folks that vote vets, they have something to say about a goal star family to Donald Trump. My son was the first person to die in combat under Donald Trump. Just five days into his presidency, Trump ordered Ryan Seale team into Yemen, not from the situation room with all the intelligence assembled, but sitting across a dinner table from Steve Bannett. There was no vital interested playing, just Donald Trump playing big man, going to war and when it went horribly wrong, when you're loser, seventy five million dollar airplane and more on American life has lost and owned it. I don't believe that you can call it a success Donald Trump, to mean my son's sacrifice, to play to the crowd. For nearly four years, Trump has assailed our country's core values. When Russia put bounties on our troops heads, Trump defended Putin instead of our military. I think it's a hoax. He need capped the postal service to undermine our right to vote. This election will be the most rigged election in history. He's misled us throughout the pandemic. Yeah. No, I don't take a responsibility at all. Two hundred thousand Americans will have died before we vote. They and Ryan have one thing in common. It didn't have to be but for Donald Trump. If you hear one thing, let it be this don't trust Donald Trump with your kid's life or your own folks. Certainly a strong at there, but man, we saw this other at a former Trump the pop the Homeland Security official lays out why this man should not get four more years. She said he comforts white supremacy. Hi am Elizabeth Newman. I am first and foremost a follower of Jesus Christ. I'm a wife and a proud mom. I voted for Trump in primarily because of the pro life issue. I served in the Trump administration at the Department of Homeland Security and became the Assistant Secretary for counter Terrorism and Threat Prevention. In my role as Assistant Secretary for counter Terrorism, we looked at emerging threats, including the rowing threat from domestic terrorists, and over the period of sev eighteen, we started to see that rise of the white supremacist agenda. I and my leadership at the Department of Homeland Security were very clear that we found the ideology behind white nationalism white supremacy to be a rowing threat. A very common refrain that I was asked was does the president It's rhetoric make your job harder? And the answer is yes. The President's actions in his language are in fact racist things like they're good people on both sides, or send them back from where they came from. Those words gave permission to white supremacists to think that what they were doing was permissible, and I do think that the president's divisive language is indirectly tied to some of the attacks that we have seen in the last two years. The reason government is supposed to exist is to plan and prepare for external threats like we're staying today with COVID. There were plans put in place for a pandemic for fifteen years. When we started to see that a pandemic was on its way to our shores in January, any number of experts told me we need to be executing on these plans. But from January until March eleventh, what you saw instead was a number of good public servants attempting to do their job and the president telling them to stop because he didn't want the economy to tank and he didn't want a distraction from his campaign. I'm sorry, Mr President, you were hired to handle America's worst day, and you've absolutely failed. I do not think that we can afford four more years of President Trump. We are less safe today because of his leadership. We will continue to be less safe as long as he is in control. And this year I'll be voting for Joe Biden. Look, this is somebody who was on the inside. Reese who said, yep, aidan abandoned white supremacist. This was she, So let's let's start there. However, I do think that it's important to have these folks um jump ship, you know, and and blow the whistle and blow the lid off of what's happening, that we all see what's happening. But it does add a little a little bit more credibility when it's coming from somebody like Elizabeth Newman. Uh. Um, Let's not forget that there was footage of her testifying about the child separation policy. So I understand that you have a lot of Republicans that are going to try to rehabilitate their complicitness or actual um co conspirator role in this Trump administration's white nationalist agenda. But if she wants to speak out now, and if she wants to um, you know, inform people about how dangerous he is, then good on her for that very specific thing. Um, go right ahead, Erica, Yeah, slow class and for me it's a little bit annoying and aggravating from from two places. One of them is which when people talk about their faith UM. And as a person, I've been very you know, forthcoming. I am a believer UM and I do UM UM definitely have a relationship with Jesus Christ. And I just don't understand that if a person has a relationship with Christ, how they can definitely support the sign of a clansman. So that's one thing. So I would love for people to stop invoking or faith UM, particularly in support of somebody who is UM, does not read the Bible called the Second Book of Corinthians to Corinthians, who clearly has not been to any worship services, that spends, in our taxpayer money, most of his weekends golfing at one of his several golf courses UM, either in Virginia or in Bedminster. But then forward after that, kind of what we've seen after, you know, kind of the fallout from this is that people write books, they go on all of these different shows, they're paid. And so her position if it is very authentic, and that she's you know, using her experience and say these are the things that I've seen and in fact that I'm going to vote for him. I mean, we're good on her, but I'm hoping that she's talking to the people that are in her family. The folks that follow kind of the same UM line of thinking when it comes to UM pro life, whatever issue they want to bring forth to say this is the reason that they voted for Donald Trump, whatever excuse it is, that they may do better and influence the people around two that are going to be more likely to vote for Trump because most of us did not support him and will not support the son of a clansman. Hey, folks uh. The earlier, the Major League Baseball commissioner, he was trying to get the Mets as well as the Marlins UH to do some sort of demonstration but then play the game. An hour later, the players had another idea. This is what they did, y'all. They took the field, had afforded to second moment of silence, then both teams walked off, and the only thing they left on the field it's the Black Lives Matter shirt. Watch this. And now Lewis Brinson announced as the lead off hitter for Miami, and all of the Marlins and Mets have come out of their dugouts, Michael Walker takes off his hat and all the Mets on the field are removing their hats as well. Now, after a moment of silence that lasted forty two seconds, the day before we celebrate Jackie Robinson Day, the Mets are exiting the field after both teams exchanged the wave of caps to one another, so it would appear as though, after a poigning moment, that the Mets and Marlins will not be playing baseball tonight. Have a Black Lives Matter shirt left on top of home plate. Uh. I keep telling people out there. I under stand that folks want to see things sped up, but I'm telling you you have not seen this. You have not seen white ball players standing with black ball players. Uh. So much has changed since Colin Capertan took a knee in two thousand and sixteen. Uh And to see them, people thought, oh great, we're gonna have a game, and they come out and somebody' all are saying about two seconds. It's because tomorrow is the anniversary of when branch Ricky and Jackie Robinson met the first time, which led to him being signed by the Brooklyn Dodgers. That's what tomorrow is that's what the two seconds was for. Uh that right there. People can say symbolism means nothing, recy but these things do matter. When you have a this generation who is saying no, we're gonna shut it down and if you don't like it, tough, we're not gonna play it absolutely does matter. It's so striking though, how we have to do all of this for what should be such a basic concept that black lives matter. I mean, this, this, this really exposing the depths of the resistance to our black humanity in this country. And we're not enslaved people's anymore. You know that ended, you know, a century or so ago, but um, we're still grapplings with people who don't even want to acknowledge that. I mean, even at the at the Republican National Convention, the Claim Convention that's been going on, they absolutely refused to say black lives matter. Uh, they'll say these specific black lives matter, but not even using the three words together. And so it's jarring, um, even as a black person to just see the level of protests required for this just basic understanding for people to have. But I'm hoping that it's really, um that much more jarring to to white people out there. I'm not a person who has a whole lot of faith in this necessarily um waking people up immediately, but hopefully the cumulative effect of people, not just black people, but not just one particular um uh team, but a galvanization around this notion that black people should not be gunned down by the police. I hope that it shakes people out of this complacency and this just stubborn belligerents about black lives mattering. And then, of course you want to see how whiteness works. Uh, Erica. Here is Brian Erlacker. He posted fit on his Instagram stories. Bred far played the Monday Light football game the day his dad died, through four TVs in the first half and was a legend for playing in the face of adversity. NBA players boycott the playoffs because a dude reaching for a knife wanted on a film the sexual was warrant was shot by police. Keep in mind, ran Erlacker has a has a black son, m M. Right. And when we think about Brett Farve, also know that you know it wasn't but a few weeks ago that he was golfing with the son of a Klansman. UM. It just kind of shows what the priorities are in this country. UM. But along the lines of the Major League Major League Baseball, this is kind of a precedence that has been set because when you consider the percentage of black UM ball players, it's you know, it's about seven percent. It's it's not that high. UM. So to have this overarching statement that is made UM to really penetrate the minds of those people on the other side of the screen, UM, that are black and white but mostly um white. UM does say something and it does kind of maybe still the moment for a bit to give UM more consideration for really something like Reese said, you know, stringing together those three words in a demonstrative way that black lives do matter, and they should matter because we should not be faced with assault on every in just for being black. All right, folks, that is it for us. Car had of course had the jump off, which will appreciate him being on the show today, recy and Erica as well. Hey, I did not forget y'all. 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