John Cena 2025: John Cena's DISAPPOINTING Retirement Run & WHY GUNTHER TAPPING CENA OUT WAS THE RIGHT CALL

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I haven't seen this much division amongst the community in quite some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's something that I look at as a creator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take a step back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the results of what WWE did on Saturday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I gauge everybody's opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see everybody's opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see everybody emotionally just attacking each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really makes me want to completely remove myself from the entire community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I question why I even still associate with X or any social media to be quite honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only reason why I do it is because I do think that it helps a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does help with pushing the content that we create on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All because certain people enjoyed what happens on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of us had to get attacked for who they think we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of us had to be attacked because of the opinions that we express and people can't handle it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People don't know how to cope with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People don't know that people are allowed to have a different opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To what makes what we do great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It creates discussion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I will not stand though is when I give a pro wrestling opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gives nobody the right to go into comment sections and speak of me as if they know me personally and start mentioning my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what our opinions on John Cena losing in the manner that he lost on Saturday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what this entire situation really boiled down to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We express our opinion, and then people want to personally attack you for the person that they think you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll get into a little bit more of that in a little bit, but I want to come on here today to give you guys just my overall thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that we've had time to sit with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's now coming down from Saturday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to give you guys my thoughts on the overall WWE run in his final year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena's final year, final 2,025, he's retired, he lost a gunther, Saturday night's main events, how did we get there, what was good, what was bad, about the entire run, which he let everybody know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Six seven months in advance We're gonna get into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna go over his matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna give you guys again My genuine and honest opinion about what happened on Saturday night and why people are so upset About the conclusion of John Cena's career
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[SPEAKER_00]: So sit back, grab a beverage, and let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is off the script.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is your Monday, December 15th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost time for safety clause, December 15th, 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was there with the biggest fan of John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate a John Cena more in his...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say by the time John Cena got to about 70% through his career is when I started to appreciate John Cena a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing I was mentioning about John Cena, Jay the what was your favorite point of John Cena's career, I always point to the United States Open Challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The United States Open Challenge that he started and the United States Open Challenge that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Living on through Sami Zayn, who had a great two-month stretch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Elise Raganov, who is now approaching that great two-month stretch, just like Sami Zayn was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does get a little tiresome now that WWE relies on it so heavily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mixed with the fact that SmackDown is just utter dog shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena really created something in that time period,
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[SPEAKER_00]: a different mentality from what Cena wanted to do for the company, whereas they were lied on him to be the face of the company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They relied on him to take the spots of the rock and stone cults, the Boston and Hulk Hogan before him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was taxed on doing that selling merch, biggest baby face in all of pro wrestling, the face of the company, the guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he took a step back to hold a secondary championship and work with up-and-coming talent to give them a foundation and a platform to express themselves and get themselves to the next level, and he was going to guide them there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Off of all the hard work that he did before, to give back, that's when I really started to appreciate John's here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that United States Open Challenge was tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I didn't really want it to end as soon as it ended.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to continue the way that it did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look at John Cena and what he was as a heal, transforming himself into a baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I see where Vince was going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw what WWE was trying to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I took the opportunity to stop watching the product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been an avid WWE fans since I was four years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to live through the days of Hulk Hogan who was on top for a good nine years in WWE I had to live through the days of Shawn Michaels when Shawn Michaels was being forced down on our throats as the conquering baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After winning the WWE championship from Breath of Hitman Hardy went on that Ron, I'm an
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't take it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's one thing I could not stand about WWE's, the way that they take a baby face and they shove that baby face so far down our throats that we have no choice put to spit it back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't take it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Contact it with Hogan, contact with Shawn Michaels and then we get Stone Cold and then we get the rock and it's like, oh man, we finally got
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[SPEAKER_00]: adult like they were cool people were buying their t-shirts you can go anywhere without seeing a stone cold or or a brahma bolt t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go anywhere in school without someone discussing stone cold or the rock or the yada t-shirt or what happened on Monday and that raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, all right, these are my people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my generation, this is my vibe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we fucking lived and died by what WWE did all Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got no stone call, we got no rock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had to move on into the John Cena era.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then from the John Cena era, we got the big dog, Roman Reigns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I came back to watch the product after one year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took a year away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I removed myself from it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just could not take the corniness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could not take what Vince was doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I came back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I gave the product another shot, I've been with it ever since.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got Roman Reigns, and WWE, once again, trying with Roman Reigns because John Cena was taking a more reduced schedule, we had to sit through the big dog era, where everybody knew, and this was becoming
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[SPEAKER_00]: A day and age where fans were a little bit more smarter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were a little bit more kind of up on what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were in the dirt sheets a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were in and around the rumor mill a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of these people looked at the big dog, Roman Reigns, and said, yeah, you know why I met were out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't sit through another one of these corny, just over-exposed, shoved down our throw baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They told Vince this is not our guy, anybody but this guy, he's not ready, he's not ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the pandemic hit Roman took himself out of the equation because he didn't want to compromise his health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He came back when he felt like it was safe enough and he came back under his own, you know what, I want what I want if I'm going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He laid out the groundwork for what he wants when he comes back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of those things was Paul Hamon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of those things was to be healed, to be himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he knew what Vince wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was cliche, it was old school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was outdated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me be me and let me show you the money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what Roman did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what Roman did and look at the success that Roman had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Roman basically is a beacon of change for what baby faces should be moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, there's no need to rely on an overly cartoonish character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no need to rely on Coney Jokes and childish antics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I stopped watching when John Cena was in his heyday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean I didn't appreciate what John Cena brought to the table.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean I was one of those geeks that said, and Shannon did John Cena can't wrestle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't wrestle, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, John Cena very much could wrestle, just like Hulk Hogan didn't need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a cartoon character that relied on this and relied on the five-knuckle shuffle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did what he was asked to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when people asked, Jay, do you watch your favorite
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the most significant is the United States Open Challenge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When people ask what my favorite feud of John Cena was, what my favorite matches of John Cena, I always point the fingers to see him punk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think seeing him punk is his greatest rival.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always look at edge as his second greatest rival.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not to keen on the Randy Orton feud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really pushing that narrative that it was a tremendous epic feud a few that would outlive all of us that i mean they they really kind of pushed it as like his greatest rivalry ever no was no wasn't you know because you do something so many times WWE automatically thinks that the more you do it if the best ever how more of a quality of a quantity type of guy always happened always will be
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[SPEAKER_00]: more of a less is more type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can make just as big of an impact in the number of times you do something less than you do it more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I look at those two guys as number one and two as far as Johnson is greatest rival.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of John Cena's greatest matches are always looked back to that 2011 CM Punk match in Chicago money in the bank, the promo that Punk cut in Vegas leading to that match and walking away with the championship, kissing you goodbye, posting on social media and posting the WWE Championship in his refrigerator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In New Year's Revolution, cash in by Edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Edge went on a tremendous two week, three week run before they dropped the title back to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wush it would have been more the rated our superstar was fucking tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That match with Umaga at the Royal Rumble, the series of matches he had with AJ Styles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The list goes on and on as far as John Cena matches, Sean Michaels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the match would show Michaels in London, 55 minutes, almost an Iron Man match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That really silenced the critics on John Cena Kent Russell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it just showed that John Cena is so much more than what Vince McMahon created him to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He only needed him to be one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena clearly was so much more than what Vince originally had him pet for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He started to take a reduced schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We started to see him less.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His appearances became sporadic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time John Cena came back and became more of an important appearance because he would only be back for something important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got John Cena reduced to maybe one if that two appearances per year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You knew he was back for something important, whether it was a rumble or a mania or a summer
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at that point, I think it was ingrained in our minds that we need to start appreciating John Cena a little bit more because the less John Cena appears, the quicker we are aiming towards John Cena retiring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when John Cena showed up a money in the bank last year and claimed to everybody that he was retiring and that this year would be his final year, this upcoming royal rumble
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[SPEAKER_00]: The mania in Vegas this year would be his final WrestleMania and everything that you see would be his final appearance and every city that he made, it would be his final appearance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew then that what we knew from the last generation is coming to an end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we get to the Royal Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get to the Royal Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's excited to see what John Cena does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to win the Royal Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody immediately starts talking about number 17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets into the Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, John Cena do his thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he is the final two with Jay Uso.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody want the John Cena to win and nobody gave Jay Uso a chance in hell of winning because I think everybody at that point, though they loved Jay Uso and everybody was loving the I think everybody still looked at Jay Uso as a tag team wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody really thought that WWE would push Jay Uso to win a rumble, win a world championship and many event wrestle many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then the unthinkable happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: J. Uso eliminated John Cena from the Royal Rumble in 2025 and J. Uso went on to challenge Gunther for the World's Heavyweight Championship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That only left John Cena to win the elimination chamber if he was indeed going to challenge for number 17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mind J. Uso winning the Royal Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why I didn't mind it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is because Triple H has been developing this, this feeling, Triple H has been presenting the product to safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know when to pay things off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know when to stop things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know when to just give us a pay off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He plays it safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to drag things out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some things don't need to be dragged out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at that as, I'm not a fan of J.U.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many times have we gone to a rumble and say, I'm in the rumble's predictable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They usually got there three, four, five guys that could potentially be a lock to win the Royal rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we look at J. Uso winning it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody had him pegged to win the Royal rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were maybe real dark horse picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So look out for J. Uso.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be someone that the company pushes to win the rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Jay Uso winning the rumble was a bad thing because the way that I looked at it as which Triple H was playing at safe on that one night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't playing at safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He actually went with something that a lot of people did not predict.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The follow up is what matters most.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The moment was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Triple H really botched.
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[SPEAKER_00]: J. U.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So winning the rumble and taking him into WrestleMania, and I think they over-relied on the E. So what does that leave John Cena?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That leaves John Cena to win the elimination chamber, otherwise he's not going to challenge the number 17 at this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of fans wanted him to win number 17 at WrestleMania because they correlate such an accomplishment with it only happening, and it could only happen at WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really think that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even John Cena needed to win number 17 at WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you could wait until we get down to the wire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Summerslam would be a great place to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in his last match, winning it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe challenging for the World Championship in his last match and closing out his career by winning number 17 and going home happy and riding off into the sunset, leaving the scene Asian with something
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought those options were absolutely something that WWE should have visited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They thought otherwise the elimination chamber pay per view was one of the best shows of the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably Triple H's best show all year to be quite honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four matches all impactful and I feel like WWE hit a home run with that entire show and then they had the rock and they had the rock show up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the rock came back, not because WWE wanted the rock to tell engaging, fruitful, substantial story picking up where the rock left off from last year with Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they didn't bring the rock back to tell episodic story and continue to flesh out the saga between roads and the rock which we the last time we saw the rock he was giving the throat slash with the three and before that we got the rock on television telling Cody Rose as he caress the WWE championship our story is just beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And ever since then, Cody's been saying, I haven't seen the last of the final boss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not going to be the last time you see the final boss, the final, the final boss character isn't completely fleshed out yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They throw things at these fucking geek reporters to give everybody a headline, to give them a talking point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all thought the rock was coming back to complete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the saga with Cody and the move on to the next chapter of what whatever they created last year the rock was brought back to merely Celtic it's to the elimination chamber and elimination chamber that had John Cena making his final chamber appearance in a chamber with Logan Paul and see him punk and Seth Rollins
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit of John Cena's future in John Cena's last chamber, why did we need to put a reliance on selling tickets as a shareholder I get it, yeah man, that's an extra 8,000 tickets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a fan, we're left looking back at it asking why the rock was brought in
21:13.385 --> 21:18.031
[SPEAKER_00]: The rock was brought into Celtic, it's with no plan for including him on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought him in with absolutely no plan on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he comes up with the idea, all right, well, if I'm going to come back, the one guy that makes sense to me to work with is Cody Rhodes, I'll come back and we'll create a storyline where I come back and ask, Cody to be my champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is after the only one appearance that the rock may two appearances, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only two appearances that the rock made were on January 6 on that debut of Netflix Raw where he showed up his drain and not the rock final boss where he just openly glazed Cody as this guy carried the company on his back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His shoulders are carrying the burden of being WWE champion and I appreciate all the work that he's done into putting into the WWE championship and being out of guy on quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just left this guy from the the Hellenic Cell show, bad blood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You come out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does this mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you throw slash in Cody and Roman and Jay us so?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you telling Cody that his saga with you is not over as you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just lustfully look after the WWE Championship then you want to come back and, oh man, Cody, we can do it out you bro, you're such a great guy then they go on Instagram start drinking Teramana and they start drinking Wheatleys together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was one of the fans outrights by the summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're breaking character for a story that is not even complete yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he shows up on the following nights and X-T and then he tells everybody that the rock is 20 steps out of everybody, shut the fuck up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost defending what he did and employing that it's all part of the plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to show up on SmackDown to take WrestleMania away from New Orleans and then to ask for Cody Soul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was left with, oh man, what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does he want Cody Soul for?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants Cody to be his champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: WrestleMania 40 and the story that they told will never be taught.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It may be the best thing that they've ever done and maybe the best conclusion to a match, maybe the best conclusion to a many of that to company will ever see from this point on until forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was such a great closing chapter mixing the present and the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't top it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody got the ultimate celebration and it was a largely thanks to the rock honestly He fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They made the appropriate changes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody wanted to rock Roman because it felt forced You can't take the rumble away from Cody I want you can't take the rumble away from Cody especially if three points to Roman if they're winning the rumble for a second time You're wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's pointing at him and we all know what his intentions are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need this from you
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody visibly was like he did everything but shit a fucking you saw him just about to cry on smack out people didn't want it people didn't want the rock
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he made the appropriate changes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did make it more about himself than anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else felt like fucking state chains.
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[SPEAKER_00]: B and C plus players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the stars of the show were still rock and Roman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody and Seth always felt like fucking background players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything that they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got the rest people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great television.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it made the moment it wrestled many of that much more substantial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to rock back on television and we saw rock back on television and we were excited for rock back on television because of the story that he created last year coming into this year and we all want that again us as a fan base want that that's so badly again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of looked the other way and said all right, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get a we're going to get a continuation of 40 into 41.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ari manual brings the rock in with no plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock comes up with Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want your soul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They save the answer for the elimination chamber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody is watching with dated breath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Cody going to go heal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get rock Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are things that fans are thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You basically set it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You basically gave the fans the match that we all thought was happening at Mania and you can't fault the fans for thinking that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the unthinkable happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody tells Rock fuck off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena shows his excitement because they are one in the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then John Cena turns on Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And John Cena turns heel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock, Travis Scott, laughably, and John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the most shocking thing in the moment that we have experienced as a fan base in decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something that the fans very much wanted, whether it's 15 years to late or not, we finally got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we as a fan base all started thinking, well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just turn John Cena heel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Clearly, if they are embarking on this monumental situation, then there's got to be a vision, there's got to be a plan for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's got to be some sort of direction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We come to find out week after week, after week, after week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things aren't lining up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The rock never was mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The rock never showed back on television.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, on the fence, exclaiming his disgust for the fan base over the 20 years of his career, how everybody used him and abused him and poked fun at him and made fun of him and he went out there and wanted to ruin wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of this happened and we didn't see scene after the chamber for about three weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we sat down on the WrestleMania overseas tour in Europe to see John Cena's first appearance and we got promo after promo after promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was in the third promo where we finally got the mention of the rock and another thing to do with Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We knew Cody was going to probably be set up for John Cena WrestleMania, but a lot of people
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does he play into all this, did John Cena make a deal with the rock to sell his soul to the rock instead of Cody?
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[SPEAKER_00]: His John Cena now embarking on a journey to be the rock's champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody went on this crusade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the real John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not the real John Cena blah blah blah yada yada yada yada.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody finally manned up after being beaten at the chamber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was beat up by his Rolex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got a bus to theerson from Travis Scott.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got whip by the rock, Mama Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He went on a crusade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was angry and he wanted the real John Cena because he thought that whatever we were getting was fake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He pushed back on the fans disrespecting Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These people love you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got to Russell Mania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's excited about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're still hopeful to see the rock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way the rock doesn't show up at WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What we got on night two is to stay in on WWE that will forever be a mark on WrestleMania until WWE C C is to exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The worst ending to a mania ever ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with one of the worst WrestleMania matches that will ever happen in the history of the event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It may be the worst.
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[SPEAKER_00]: WWE has no rock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have no direction for the Johnson-Eheal-Turn and they sent Travis Scott out there and him walking to the ring I still feel in December it happened in April.
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[SPEAKER_00]: an absolute fucking embarrassment, there is absolutely no way that WWE came down sat down and came to a conclusion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how are we in this show?
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[SPEAKER_00]: With them saying, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's send Travis Scott out there and see what we're number 70.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they thought
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena winning number 17 is now shit stained with an asterisk next to it because he was helped by Travis Scott Travis Scott will be ingrained forever in WWE history as helping John Cena win number 17 and then John Cena goes on Chris Van Vleets podcast and says who cares?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has no feeling about winning number 17
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to throw Triple H under the bus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to throw the rock underneath the bus, but that doesn't mean we won't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H, Bruce, Michael, who else?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Hayes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every single one of them should be absolutely fucking embarrassed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there should be absolutely zero.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Zero percentage that the fans let them get away with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: every time they interview every time they sit down and think about things that they've done in the past, that should be at the top of the list of their fucking embarrassing moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How you come to a conclusion, how do you sit down and sit in that writer's room without whiteboard behind them that we saw on Unreal and that's the great idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rocco's on Pat McAfee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He tells Pat McAfee you didn't want to take away from John Cena's moment of winning number 17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you rather just send Travis Scott out there who the fans didn't want to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take away from the moment of making it special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, you included yourself in this storyline to leave it so open-ended.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You took away from John Cena's moment by not being there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be something the fans question forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't want to take away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You triple H and the creative team are a blemish on John Cena winning number 17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost makes me think, and I don't want to put my 10 full cap on here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost makes me think that there's some professional jealousy,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And John Cena's year, I mean, is that far-fetched to think that there's some level of professional jealousy from rock and triple-h?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How could you go about booking something so miserable when this would be a slam dunk in any other fucking situation?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It truly makes me think what Vince McMahon would have done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what Vince would have done with John Cena?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We probably wouldn't have gotten heel John Cena, which looking back at it might have been the best thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We certainly wouldn't have gotten Travis Scott, rock and bearers themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was absolutely some political play backstage, something happened that we will never
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[SPEAKER_00]: something happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to make it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we did it for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was John Cena said that they only did it for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That had no plan for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't do something for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then at the same time, leave it so open and did that a rock exclusion is going to fuck the entire thing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you left it in a situation where you absolutely 100% needed the rock to be there and then when we didn't get him the cards fell where they fell I'm not blaming the rocks specifically because there's no fucking way on this planet that anybody could sit there and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost came off in a way, watching it that WWE had a plan for the rock to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The rock said he wasn't going to be there and they went with the plan anyway and everybody everybody looked at Travis Scott and said, you know what, let's continue the plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be the same thing with them without the rock there who gives a shit, but Travis Scott was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So nobody's going to care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What they looked at as the greatest heel turning WWE history, the second greatest heel turn in pro wrestling history, they almost made it into the worst because of the rock being excluded.
35:50.046 --> 36:00.523
[SPEAKER_00]: He watched Mania, he knew exactly what I'd been at Mania, but he opted not to show up at
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did we need the rock to show up at the elimination chamber when the elimination chamber basically yourselves itself seen as inclusion in there with a punk in a Rollins and a Paul and everybody else sells itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why couldn't we just wait for the heel turn to happen at WrestleMania if you wanted to do something shocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you opted to do the moment at the chamber and fuck up your biggest show
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[SPEAKER_00]: You opted to do the moment at the chamber, follow up on nothing, and then give us the worst Russell Mani main event of all time, with the worst ending of all time.
36:38.557 --> 36:50.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of doing the moment to heal turn at Mani, they sold John Cena out for an extra 8,000 tickets to sell for the elimination chamber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't hate WWE enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't hate,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the rock and the corporate garbage of TKO enough, they think the fans are marks, they take the fans for granted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All they want are the fans money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see what they thank you see how they feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Forever that will be a stain on how we look at WWE being run by TKO.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They sold John Cena out.
37:24.403 --> 37:29.010
[SPEAKER_00]: They stole a moment from the fans that we could look back on and remember forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Said we look back at it and discussed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena wins number 17.
37:38.864 --> 37:43.731
[SPEAKER_00]: First viewed out of his title run is Randy Orton at backlash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought what they did in the build up was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something I'm going to go back and relive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Johnson and Randy Orton's promos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought were okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The RKO, I don't know where to set it up was exciting because another match that people wanted to see this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really care for it, but a lot of people wanted to see it was Randy Orton and John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back lashes and saying, Louis, Randy Orton makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The match was surrounded by a lot of smoke and mirrors, but I honestly thought it was better than the Cody Rhodes match, a WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena wins, he defeats Randy Orton at back, Lash, and St. Louis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we go into Saturday and let's main event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They wasted a Saturday night's main event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena appearance by putting him in the ring with art truth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The match went four minutes and 25 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, we as a fan base are starting to feel that they got no plan for this John Cena Hill turn, and this is failing miserably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we start to ask, was there a necessary reason why we needed to turn him heel?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people were begging at this point for the old John Cena to be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we get the old John Cena back when he just goes out there and fucking 48-year-old man having bag of matches?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we get into money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody Rhodes and Jay Uso against John Cena and Logan Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena aligned himself with Logan Paul to convince us that this healtor should continue on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This Logan Paul's a hated heel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena wants to invest in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the right guy for the company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the future of the company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants the ruin wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's team them up with everybody that thinks Logan Paul is an outsider.
39:40.614 --> 39:42.917
[SPEAKER_00]: Seem them up with the guy that the fans think is an outsider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly what they thought was the idea here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was supposed to be Travis Scott.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan Paul and John Cena against the Usos and Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God that didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Travis Scott according to Logan Paul bounced from pro wrestling because he thought it would be too taxing on his body and it's too physical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go back to making your shitty music that nobody gives a fuck about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You will lucky to even be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to look at you now in the adults of history, standing next to the Iraq and John Cena during the second biggest heel turn of the modern era.
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[SPEAKER_00]: fuck outta here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody a new so beat scene and Logan Paul you, you, you knew that we were probably gonna get Cody and scene at Summer Slim at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They wasted a John Cena Smackdown appearance on June 20 against Archruth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the old, the whole Archruth fiasco where he got
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[SPEAKER_00]: The notice that he was not being brought back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He tweeted on social media that WWE was not renewing his contract fans melted down on social media to a point where a report came out where Nick Khan couldn't take all the bad publicity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but they don't listen to social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't listen to social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lot of fans cried on social media that WWE is making a mistake by firing our truth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How could you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: not really firing, but letting him walk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't need your services anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in it, conflute to our truth's own and spoke to him personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought him back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, another idea that they gave to the fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're giving into the fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're giving you what you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they don't follow up on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our truth shows up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He cuts his airies, rename Ron killings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes back within a month to doing shitty comedy again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's back making jokes about Nick all this is balls as of last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Arsh, we beat John Cena by DQ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we get into nine of champions with John Cena in CM Punk, which honestly, in my opinion, as far as the very little that they had to build on a match, I thought this was the best thing that they did to build towards a John Cena match this year out of everything they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved the idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: whether you like it or not, I don't really give a shit because you should have expected in any way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's punk a hypocrite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we all know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But clearly punk is a change guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing what he wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing what he needs to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is showing everybody that he's not the volatile, fucking prick that AW made him out to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He may comment to the past that he would never travel Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave that comment to the Miz about sucking a blood money covered dick in Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He made comments about go go to WWE and man event a four-night extravaganza We all know the comments that he made can't take back those comments You could always move forward So the idea was you want to shot it meet you want to shot at the the goat you want to shot at the WWE championship the title
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a travel Saudi Arabia to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Meet me at night at Shampons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got John Cena cutting a variation of his own pipe bomb, which was probably one of the most memorable things in the entire year for his entire run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Taps only near the top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, seeing it came back, it was an episode in Saudi Arabia, I believe, where punk on the Go Home show,
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[SPEAKER_00]: before night of champions, punk came out and did his own doctor of thug and almex deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, seen it took a page at a punk and his playbook and punk did the same thing to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the build was better than the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The match was all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The match again was riddled with smoke and mirrors just like the rain, the ordinary match at backlash, but...
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes me wonder what the match would have been like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Cena was a heel and punk, or our Cena was a baby face, rather than sort of being a heel and punk was a baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got something along the lines of what we got with with Cena and Cody at SummerSlam, Cena and Paul, Cena and Zayne, Cena and Styles makes me wonder what type of match they would have had if both of them were baby faces instead of playing off the fact that John Cena needed to ruin wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything that he did was just riddled and ruining wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interferences and then Rolls and Punk had their situation and then they tease the cash in They just really make sure look back on it and and and say what if We didn't see Sina until summer slim he dropped the Heelstick they basically eliminated it they it was like a fucking it was a burden on them that they wanted to carry no longer
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[SPEAKER_00]: The rock was not coming back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were never getting any finality on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Travis Scott was out of the picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was a triple H decision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was a collect the WWE decision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was a John Cena decision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they dropped the heel stick and pretended like it never happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we got Cody and Cena at SummerSlam, night two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because this year was the first two-night summer slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody got the senior that he always wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Cody got the senior that he wanted to rustle mania and senior is gonna bring the fight to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had to go out there and prove everybody wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That to go out there and absolutely destroy the rustle mania match and they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not only the best John Cena match all year, it was the best John Cena match, maybe in the last 10 years, 15 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and was Cody's best match all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Neither one of them topped at this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will go down as one of the best matches that WWE did all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tremendous match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And over a while, it's on finishes, but I thought what they did was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got the return of Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock Lesnar came out and destroyed John Cena at the end of Summer's lamb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, another one of Triple H's moments,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't see that match take place from summer slam, which was August 3rd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get Brock Lesnar and John Cena till September 20th at Russell Palooza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coming out of that Cody Rhodes match, we got Cena and Logan Paul at Clash and Parish, which was a banger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cena's now on his old man 48 year old man fucking, let's tap Banger matches, Crusade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: United States Open Challenge, Sammy Sam was the United States Champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to give back to John Cena as a thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You gave me the opportunity then I'm going to give you the opportunity and you're finally here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could not write a more poetic final appearance on SmackDown 20 minutes, Bangor match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock Lesnar finally shows face, destroy Cena again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we get Cena and Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only reason why WWE did it is because Brock Lesnar and UFC go hand in hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock Lesnar is a former UFC heavyweight champion and their on ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They cut their peacock deal short, they gave peacock the amount of dates that they needed and events that they needed and now they're moving over to ESPN because WWE wanted to throw it in AEW's face that was around the same time as all out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to counter program them at every twist and turn and fanzated up, Lesnar Scena, Punk and Rollins with their wives, ESPN, a brand new IP called Russell Paluso, which is basically an ECW gimmick, and they ran with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They start to show off with Lesnar and Scena, Lesnar destroy Scena and goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Xena goes on Chris fan bleed and says that he wanted to make Brock Lesnar a made man in his return he wanted to help put him over as if he needs any fucking help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock Lesnar's been gone for two years he hasn't been gone for 20 Brock Lesnar's been gone for two years he's not some fucking new rookie on the roster being called up from NXT because he was part of the N.I.L.
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[SPEAKER_00]: program that's what they thought that's what
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[SPEAKER_00]: that they go back and revisit John Cena and Brock Lesnar, was there a reason why Lesnar destroyed Cena outside of the reasons, Cena gave Van Vleet, no, never talked about it, never went back to it, Cena never got his win back, he wasn't in the chamber, WWE did it for a moment, they did it to make their partners at ESPN happy, they did it because they wanted to throw Petty Niss at AEW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We come from that scene doesn't make one appearance on TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They turn around and give us AJ Styles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't have any TV time to build a match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Styles went out there and said someone in the back has it out for him, which went nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know who he meant, what he was talking about, who we was talking about, he cut this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: During a commercial break on Monday, not raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we at home didn't see it unless you were watching commercial free on Netflix via a VPN.
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[SPEAKER_00]: AJ Styles said someone had it out for it was legitimately soon after that, John Cena put it out on social media, fans, what do you think about seeing me in styles for one of my remaining matches?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H took it upon himself because he wanted to beat the good guy and he wanted to pretend like he had the fans best interest at heart, put it out there that, I hear you John will make it happen and then sooner or later they announced the match, seen
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[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H made it out to be like he had our best interest that he was doing us a favor because he was making good for the disappointment that was Lesnar and Sina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, this was planned before the Lesnar seen a match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what they wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just didn't have any TV dates to get what they wanted to cross.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the only option they had is to sell an unsolcial media, we're in viral, so they made it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And ended up being the second best match that John Cena had all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a love letter to pro wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved everything about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably the only thing I'd probably go back and rewatch all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That John Cena did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: More of the very few moments that Cena gave me this year that I would go back and relive over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they had John Cena win the Intercontinental Championship in his final Boston appearance at the TD Garden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He beats Dominique Mysterio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great setup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a moment that fans wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a moment that WWE had planned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a moment that WWE gave to John Cena to round out his greatest of all time narrative.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only question was, well, we need to take the title off of John Cena and put it back on somebody, whether it's Dominic or someone else because if the rumor is correct, and John Cena is going to wrestle Guntler in his final match, we don't need John Cena's final match for the Intercontinental Championship, but we certainly don't need Guntler once again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Intercontinental Champion, because there's nothing left for him to do there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be as counter-productive as anything they've done all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they had him win the championship great moment that I'm dropped the championship at Survivor Series three weeks later and again it was a fine match we saw the return of live Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was smoke and mirrors and overbook doesn't really resonate with what we just went through with Johnson I have him bagger matches AJ and Sammy Zayne and Logan Paul and Cody Rhodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't fit into the line of
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they took the belt off of John Cena, put it back on Dominic, live Morgan's back in the judgment day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a major return, and then we moved on to the final match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did what they needed to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All at the same time, we're trucking through the last time is now a tournament, which again, WWE fucked up on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was predictable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't fun, and it was very one sided.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had LA night and Shamus excluded from the tournament because Shamus had to be removed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the Miz in the tournament twice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Zach Ryder making a return.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Dolph Ziggler making a return, both in losing efforts, and then Giovanna Evans was the only NXT talent in the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No Joe Hendry, no Obafemi, no Iliadragon off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was LA night and Jai Uso Guntaro and Solosicoa in the semi finals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Guntaro had four Banger matches, Javan Evans, Carmelo Hayes, Solosicoa and LA night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think at that point you all knew who was going to win the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they fucked up on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been done better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did like the tournament concept.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have done it to a point where it happened earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the finals would have taken place at Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you wanted going through to win, you'd have that face to face with John Cena and going through at Survivor Series being that that was his last appearance before his final match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got no TV appearances from John Cena after Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet they wanted to crown the winner of the tournament and then have an extra two weeks to do nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you think it would have been more enhanced if scene was on television to face the face with Guantua, what those promos would have looked like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, it was only a lot of the certain amount of dates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to add any more dates to his existing contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have pushed the term in fact to have it happen, the final's happen at Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the mentality of WWE.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to fill TV out, and these to happen on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get to Saturday and I'm at Savannah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the match would go in there, went 24 minutes, in my honest opinion, it was the third best match to John Cena how all year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The match with Cody at SummerSlam was number one, the match with Styles' number two and the match with Goethe was number three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a better WrestleMania match to the match he had with Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I would have loved to see this on a bigger stage, if they wanted to have this at a WrestleMania, this was very WrestleMania, ask to me, the story, the unpredictability of whether Cena was going to tap out, John Cena, the Sean Cena going to win and overcome the big foreign heel, a lot of it was
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of ingrained in what we expected from John Cena, the type of a opponent, the struggle and never give up concept, the heel going in there, exclaiming and promising he's going to tap out, John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get the last five minutes of the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get what inevitably was John Cena's final moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the sleeper hold, trying to counter it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He countered and countered and countered and fought and fought and fought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena succumbed to the sleeper hold and John Cena tapped out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only did he tap out, he tapped out with a smile on his face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were outraged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were legitimately outraged to a point where after the match was over,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The locker room, Triple H, Stephanie McMahon, Bruce Pritchard, executives, producers, agents, talent, production, everybody that was in the building came out, surrounded the ring and the first people that we saw with Triple H, Stephanie McMahon, they were booed out of the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were booed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H has made it very wildly known on the guy that books this shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see him everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's plastered everybody everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be the Dana White of WWE.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We see his name every fucking week after Monday night after Tuesday night after Friday night executive produces Paul Levec and Lee thinning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants you to know he is the man in charge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fans were
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were looking at it emotionally because John Cena lost and they took out their frustration and anger and it resulted in Triple H getting booed out of the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't blame them for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The symbolic nature of Cena losing just like we've lost Cena for 36 dates on what was
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[SPEAKER_00]: which could have been infinitely better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a culmination of everybody Boeing, what we've seen this year in regards to Sina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I've done a very good job of documenting how we've gotten here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it deserves to be booed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fans booed because they accumulated $5 million in gate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the largest arena show in WWE history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want that their money's worth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obafemi and Cody Rhodes going to a no contest is not giving the fans their money's worth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ten minutes, mind you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Saul Rooka and Bailey going 14 minutes with Saul Rooka going over Bailey is not giving the fans their money's worth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though both are great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody, and Oba, we're having a great fucking match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No contest in the opening match, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more upset about the way that ended than the match with Goenther and Sina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Javon Evans and Leon Slervers is AJ Styles and Dragon Lee and went eight minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ten minutes max.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I didn't even get started.
58:56.113 --> 59:00.517
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I just sat down to have dinner and the fucking the the the the the way that was taken my dinner away.
59:04.601 --> 59:05.742
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get this.
59:07.375 --> 59:10.421
[SPEAKER_00]: The fans booed because they felt like they didn't get their money's worth.
59:10.802 --> 59:16.494
[SPEAKER_00]: The fans also booed because there is an emotional connection to John Cena that they were just not ready to let go.
59:17.857 --> 59:18.979
[SPEAKER_00]: They were not ready to let go of.
59:22.126 --> 59:23.629
[SPEAKER_00]: You can boot Triple H all you want.
59:24.773 --> 59:26.956
[SPEAKER_00]: You can sit there and boot Triple H all you want.
59:27.056 --> 59:28.758
[SPEAKER_00]: It is right to do so.
59:28.838 --> 59:34.065
[SPEAKER_00]: It is just a five Triple H. And I got the WWE leadists attacking me this week.
59:34.746 --> 59:38.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H had his worst year creatively since he took over.
59:39.972 --> 59:43.997
[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at the number one Triple H mark from the black and gold days.
59:44.037 --> 59:44.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't anybody remember that?
59:45.019 --> 59:45.359
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't.
59:45.419 --> 59:46.581
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't really blame you.
59:46.781 --> 59:47.942
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm telling you right now.
59:49.745 --> 59:53.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H Ryan Ward and whoever else he had down there
59:55.486 --> 01:00:01.093
[SPEAKER_00]: They did the best job that I've seen in years running NXT.
01:00:01.373 --> 01:00:03.356
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was perfect.
01:00:04.617 --> 01:00:07.261
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have a single drop of criticism.
01:00:08.402 --> 01:00:13.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I do nowadays, this is not the same guy.
01:00:13.869 --> 01:00:16.672
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not the same guy with the fans.
01:00:17.854 --> 01:00:19.536
[SPEAKER_00]: Wants and desires in mind.
01:00:20.984 --> 01:00:26.171
[SPEAKER_00]: He's booking for himself just like his father-in-law, booked for himself.
01:00:27.973 --> 01:00:31.918
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not going to sit here and let Triple H get away, Scott Frey.
01:00:31.958 --> 01:00:34.021
[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to see.
01:00:34.041 --> 01:00:35.663
[SPEAKER_00]: I hoped.
01:00:36.745 --> 01:00:41.251
[SPEAKER_00]: I prayed that he would not result in doing the same thing vinced.
01:00:41.771 --> 01:00:46.958
[SPEAKER_00]: But the more we see it, the more he's treading a very dangerous territory.
01:00:49.098 --> 01:00:52.962
[SPEAKER_00]: The fans have every right to boot Triple H. I'm not making excuses for him on Saturday.
01:00:52.982 --> 01:00:53.563
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't met him.
01:00:53.583 --> 01:00:55.425
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not making excuses for him during the year.
01:00:56.166 --> 01:01:02.552
[SPEAKER_00]: What he's done with John Cena's run alone deserves to be booed.
01:01:04.354 --> 01:01:08.999
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I don't want to be conspiracy theorists, but there may be some sort of professional jealousy there.
01:01:09.019 --> 01:01:11.422
[SPEAKER_00]: There is with the rock, which may have deteriorated.
01:01:11.462 --> 01:01:13.384
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened around Russell Mayney season.
01:01:14.630 --> 01:01:20.155
[SPEAKER_00]: And who knows, they may be some professional jealousy with him in John Cena, even though they'll project to the media.
01:01:20.335 --> 01:01:21.396
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, John Cena's the goat.
01:01:21.416 --> 01:01:24.859
[SPEAKER_00]: And he'll now write this and he'll now write that and he'll hug John Cena or smile on his face.
01:01:28.723 --> 01:01:30.344
[SPEAKER_00]: The fans don't know why they booed.
01:01:31.785 --> 01:01:35.989
[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H. That Saturday night's made event.
01:01:36.009 --> 01:01:37.711
[SPEAKER_00]: You look at the outcome and fans booed.
01:01:38.051 --> 01:01:39.332
[SPEAKER_00]: They booed because seen a lost.
01:01:40.994 --> 01:01:42.595
[SPEAKER_00]: They booed because seen a lost.
01:01:45.207 --> 01:01:47.850
[SPEAKER_00]: They boot because they don't know.
01:01:51.455 --> 01:01:56.542
[SPEAKER_00]: All I hear is, John Cena lost to the guy that Jayuso tapped out in 30 seconds.
01:01:58.244 --> 01:02:09.679
[SPEAKER_00]: All I hear is, John Cena lost to the guy that Pat McAfee had to wrestle earlier in the year who lasted 15 minutes with.
01:02:12.983 --> 01:02:16.127
[SPEAKER_00]: You have every right to boot Triple H, I have no answers for you.
01:02:17.648 --> 01:02:21.573
[SPEAKER_00]: All I could sit here and tell you is, Goonther has been largely protected.
01:02:23.295 --> 01:02:28.261
[SPEAKER_00]: All I could sit here and tell you is Goonther is a project of Triple H that he is not going to let go.
01:02:29.642 --> 01:02:33.907
[SPEAKER_00]: All I can sit here and tell you is Goonther has been largely protected through most of his WWE career.
01:02:34.148 --> 01:02:42.197
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been a champion 75% of his WWE run.
01:02:42.869 --> 01:02:44.231
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a story to tell, then tell it.
01:02:46.354 --> 01:02:50.059
[SPEAKER_00]: All I could see her and tell you is, Triple H fucked up.
01:02:51.902 --> 01:02:53.384
[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H fucked up.
01:02:55.848 --> 01:02:57.890
[SPEAKER_00]: I would not have jay us so tap out, Gunther.
01:02:58.872 --> 01:03:01.836
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at that in that moment as the wrong decision.
01:03:03.799 --> 01:03:06.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Tabbing out, Gunther was fucking terrible.
01:03:08.145 --> 01:03:09.467
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want at a moment?
01:03:09.582 --> 01:03:15.087
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it, then I'll say it now, the tap out felt unceremonious the way he won the championship.
01:03:15.587 --> 01:03:30.500
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a moment where a tap out's not needed, and I feel like it would be more impactful for superkick and a spear and a big splash happens, and we just get that momentum, momentum, momentum, and then we get the visual audible three count going to the tap out.
01:03:30.540 --> 01:03:38.087
[SPEAKER_00]: It was fucking terrible.
01:03:38.219 --> 01:03:40.301
[SPEAKER_00]: This goes along with corporate WWE.
01:03:40.561 --> 01:04:01.700
[SPEAKER_00]: We fucking hate it, but all I can sit here and tell you is I hope that looking back at this year, they know that they fucked up and they don't make these same mistakes again, WWE had Johnson to tap out with a smile on his face.
01:04:04.082 --> 01:04:06.184
[SPEAKER_00]: I went
01:04:07.835 --> 01:04:11.218
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena asked for this to be the way.
01:04:16.703 --> 01:04:21.367
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena has largely said all through this year that he has no saying anything, he's the last one to be called.
01:04:22.668 --> 01:04:24.369
[SPEAKER_00]: They line him up, he takes him down.
01:04:25.751 --> 01:04:29.494
[SPEAKER_00]: They give me the plan, and I go out there and give you my mile.
01:04:31.215 --> 01:04:36.660
[SPEAKER_00]: But the one thing that I do believe him on, I want they show to look this way.
01:04:38.412 --> 01:04:47.784
[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted this show to be a mix of present and future NXT stars, he got it.
01:04:47.804 --> 01:05:08.031
[SPEAKER_00]: So we tasked WWE with going to find the talent for the show, they picked Obafemi, Sol Ruka, Jivon Evans, and Leon Slider, who's not even with the company, he's the TNA Activision Champion,
01:05:08.888 --> 01:05:15.675
[SPEAKER_00]: everybody's already fucking writing going through off his fucking undertaker desk and he's about to buck and he's about to retire the edge of 55.
01:05:20.260 --> 01:05:27.188
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena's largely said that he has no saying anything he had a lot of say in the way he wanted to show to look so I would be of the belief.
01:05:28.550 --> 01:05:31.673
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena wanted to go out the way that he wanted to go out.
01:05:34.235 --> 01:05:56.361
[SPEAKER_00]: sure it's easy to say it's the other way because he's had no say in anything sure it's easy to say triple h is the guy in charge he proves that everything no shit you don't think that they sat down with john cina and asked john how do you want to go out today i don't know if it's my fucking career if it's my ending if it's me
01:05:58.180 --> 01:06:04.249
[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing in my mind as a human being would be, let's go to John and see what he wants to do.
01:06:04.269 --> 01:06:08.214
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's in the right way that we want to do it, we'll have it happen.
01:06:10.357 --> 01:06:14.563
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not making excuses for Triple H. That's just being a decent human being.
01:06:18.349 --> 01:06:20.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single one of you would have done the same thing.
01:06:22.014 --> 01:06:23.616
[SPEAKER_00]: But Triple H is the Blent Triple H book.
01:06:23.636 --> 01:06:24.878
[SPEAKER_00]: The Triple H finalized it.
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:26.500
[SPEAKER_00]: No shit.
01:06:28.994 --> 01:06:39.144
[SPEAKER_00]: But you don't think before we got to X, Y, and Z, he went to John Cena and said, John, how do you want to go out tonight?
01:06:39.164 --> 01:06:46.011
[SPEAKER_00]: The smile on the face tells you everything that you need to know about who made the decision.
01:06:48.193 --> 01:06:57.803
[SPEAKER_00]: From the moment the sleeper was applied to the moment that the bell rang to
01:06:57.918 --> 01:06:59.360
[SPEAKER_00]: he wanted to go out.
01:07:01.624 --> 01:07:02.385
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's angry.
01:07:03.547 --> 01:07:05.490
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's pissed off.
01:07:05.510 --> 01:07:06.071
[SPEAKER_00]: How could you?
01:07:07.333 --> 01:07:08.895
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't mind that Johnson lost.
01:07:09.316 --> 01:07:17.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Me, well, I don't believe anybody that said that because from day one, nobody wanted to go in there and everybody wanted O-Bow and Javan or Carmelo Hayes or Brown Breaker.
01:07:18.050 --> 01:07:25.562
[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, WWE is not booking Johnson's final match against fucking Javan
01:07:28.985 --> 01:07:34.411
[SPEAKER_00]: There are levels to this shit.
01:07:34.431 --> 01:07:49.790
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I need to reiterate this is not me making excuses for Triple H. How could I be making excuses for Triple H when I've just repeatedly told you from months that Triple H had the worst year of his professional corporate career running creative this year?
01:07:52.733 --> 01:07:54.435
[SPEAKER_00]: You only hear what you want to hear.
01:07:55.040 --> 01:08:00.067
[SPEAKER_00]: JD, Grifter, Triple H, Mark, you don't listen to a fucking word I say.
01:08:04.194 --> 01:08:22.060
[SPEAKER_00]: People upset, people outraged, chance of fuck you, Gunther, clips, fan recorded video of going through leaving the building, being led by security to his next destination after leaving the venue.
01:08:24.588 --> 01:08:27.792
[SPEAKER_00]: None of you know exactly what happened here.
01:08:27.912 --> 01:08:32.738
[SPEAKER_00]: None of you know the result of what happened here.
01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:37.965
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're looking at it from an emotional attachment standpoint.
01:08:40.888 --> 01:08:47.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Europe said because John Cena lost in a way that you didn't think it would end.
01:08:48.517 --> 01:08:59.332
[SPEAKER_00]: You're upset and you're using your emotions to deflect because you can't cope with the finality of John Cena no longer wrestling.
01:08:59.352 --> 01:09:15.435
[SPEAKER_00]: You are angry at people like me and everybody else who enjoyed the ending because you can't let go after Cena told you I hope people after this night come to a finality
01:09:16.428 --> 01:09:19.111
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't understand why it's over.
01:09:19.752 --> 01:09:22.275
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to let that emotional attachment go.
01:09:22.315 --> 01:09:33.087
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the John Cena that you grew up watching, the John Cena that you remember is not the John Cena that went out on his final day.
01:09:35.149 --> 01:09:40.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody thought with their emotions and not with the next guy in mind.
01:09:43.259 --> 01:09:48.645
[SPEAKER_00]: And John Cena smiling on his way out is worth its waiting goal.
01:09:48.705 --> 01:09:51.188
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a picture that is worth a thousand fucking words.
01:09:54.532 --> 01:10:12.473
[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked at it as a movie, and people may make fun, it's cinema, it's epic, it's this and that this is a company that has exclaimed to you that they make movies in the likes
01:10:15.237 --> 01:10:18.641
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena smiling is symbolic.
01:10:18.661 --> 01:10:21.144
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena smiling is significant.
01:10:21.845 --> 01:10:26.571
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena smiling tells the entire story about the way he tapped out.
01:10:29.094 --> 01:10:32.298
[SPEAKER_00]: People asked why Cena passed out for a tapped out and didn't pass out.
01:10:32.338 --> 01:10:33.199
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the going room.
01:10:33.379 --> 01:10:34.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's the way it ended.
01:10:35.241 --> 01:10:36.203
[SPEAKER_00]: He shouldn't have tapped out.
01:10:36.223 --> 01:10:37.144
[SPEAKER_00]: He should have passed out.
01:10:39.547 --> 01:10:40.688
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look it in that way.
01:10:42.068 --> 01:10:43.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look at it in that way.
01:10:43.890 --> 01:10:45.893
[SPEAKER_00]: People X, Y, Cena did not pass out.
01:10:47.916 --> 01:10:49.498
[SPEAKER_00]: Why did he have to tap, they say.
01:10:51.060 --> 01:10:52.622
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna make a reference to Lord of the Rings.
01:10:53.884 --> 01:10:55.886
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite movies ever.
01:10:57.749 --> 01:10:59.992
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about Frodo at Mount Doom.
01:11:01.133 --> 01:11:02.916
[SPEAKER_00]: Frodo does not fail because he is weak.
01:11:04.358 --> 01:11:06.881
[SPEAKER_00]: He fails because the burden is reached, it's absolute limit.
01:11:08.663 --> 01:11:11.367
[SPEAKER_00]: He carries the ring all the way across Middle Earth.
01:11:11.583 --> 01:11:16.493
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does not drop it half way, he does not drop it anywhere along the journey.
01:11:16.513 --> 01:11:17.836
[SPEAKER_00]: He does not collapse on the road.
01:11:17.896 --> 01:11:19.198
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets all the way to the end.
01:11:21.122 --> 01:11:24.509
[SPEAKER_00]: Only then does he reach the point where he cannot go on.
01:11:25.892 --> 01:11:29.760
[SPEAKER_00]: That is Sina in Goon through sleeper hold on December 13th.
01:11:30.381 --> 01:11:33.507
[SPEAKER_00]: For five minutes, Sina did not tap.
01:11:33.993 --> 01:11:36.496
[SPEAKER_00]: He did not tap early, he did not tap out of fear.
01:11:36.876 --> 01:11:39.239
[SPEAKER_00]: He endured the pressure until there was nothing left to prove.
01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:41.921
[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, tapping was not quitting.
01:11:44.284 --> 01:11:48.148
[SPEAKER_00]: It was acknowledging that the burden has completed its journey.
01:11:49.410 --> 01:11:55.076
[SPEAKER_00]: If Frodo had simply collapsed before he got to Mount Doom, the story would feel unfinished.
01:11:55.096 --> 01:11:58.219
[SPEAKER_00]: Passing out in the sleeper would have done the same thing to see his story.
01:11:59.160 --> 01:12:03.865
[SPEAKER_00]: It would say his body failed.
01:12:05.313 --> 01:12:09.998
[SPEAKER_00]: even want to make another correlation to, uh, arrogant.
01:12:10.018 --> 01:12:11.279
[SPEAKER_00]: Him reaching the black gate.
01:12:11.659 --> 01:12:13.641
[SPEAKER_00]: He rides out knowing he cannot win.
01:12:14.823 --> 01:12:16.564
[SPEAKER_00]: He does it to by time for the future.
01:12:17.345 --> 01:12:23.431
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to protect himself, not to protect his legend, but to make sure what comes next has a chance.
01:12:24.092 --> 01:12:26.875
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what Cena did to go through.
01:12:26.895 --> 01:12:30.358
[SPEAKER_00]: He stepped into something unwindable so the future could be built on it.
01:12:30.642 --> 01:12:32.104
[SPEAKER_00]: Goenther is not a fluke win.
01:12:32.725 --> 01:12:34.067
[SPEAKER_00]: Goenther is not a fluke villain.
01:12:34.667 --> 01:12:35.488
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not clever.
01:12:36.269 --> 01:12:41.897
[SPEAKER_00]: He is pressure, relentless, inevitable, just like the ring was in Lord of the Rings.
01:12:42.518 --> 01:12:47.725
[SPEAKER_00]: Seeing the tapping as Frodo at the end of the road, not weakness, it's completion, not failure.
01:12:48.506 --> 01:12:51.129
[SPEAKER_00]: The ending of a journey that went exactly as far as it could go.
01:12:51.670 --> 01:12:53.613
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why the loss worked in the way that it did.
01:12:54.934 --> 01:12:56.937
[SPEAKER_00]: That is why the smile matters.
01:12:59.853 --> 01:13:10.563
[SPEAKER_00]: The way that I look at it is I look at the fan made video on social media and I look at Goot there being bombarded with F bombs and hatred.
01:13:12.624 --> 01:13:18.310
[SPEAKER_00]: If seen it tapped out, it would have kept intact the never give up mantra.
01:13:19.391 --> 01:13:20.632
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're so upset.
01:13:22.433 --> 01:13:29.860
[SPEAKER_00]: The John Cena that you know for 23 years, in that moment, for that three seconds died
01:13:32.607 --> 01:13:37.453
[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena tapped out and Gunther feels complete.
01:13:39.956 --> 01:13:53.694
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther, if he had the sleeper hold applied for John Cena and John Cena faded away, that means John Cena in my opinion, John Cena and his essence is still alive.
01:13:54.835 --> 01:13:56.117
[SPEAKER_00]: What does it do for Gunther?
01:13:56.755 --> 01:14:00.908
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me John Cena had a fighting chance, but he could not hold on any longer.
01:14:00.928 --> 01:14:10.377
[SPEAKER_00]: The visual of him tapping succumbs to the monster villain now and gives the power from Cena to Gunther.
01:14:13.394 --> 01:14:15.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it is up to WWE to take that and run with it.
01:14:15.978 --> 01:14:18.081
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see I made John Cena tap out.
01:14:18.382 --> 01:14:33.384
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see something along the lines of Paul Hayman and Brock Leser where he went on a crusade of saying to everybody, Brock Leser is the one and 21 in one when he beat the Undertaker, which again, this, the shock and awe and the hatred that I'm getting.
01:14:33.424 --> 01:14:37.931
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very reminiscent of what happened with Leser beating the Undertaker.
01:14:37.971 --> 01:14:39.153
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people agree with the streak ending.
01:14:39.213 --> 01:14:39.654
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not.
01:14:40.675 --> 01:14:41.697
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have kept that intact.
01:14:45.187 --> 01:14:46.889
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't understand why they did what they did.
01:14:47.950 --> 01:14:48.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Just thinking emotionally.
01:14:50.132 --> 01:14:57.780
[SPEAKER_00]: And quite honestly, the fact that people are so up and arms about it makes me love this decision even more.
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.543
[SPEAKER_00]: You're all looking at it in a very emotional way.
01:15:00.603 --> 01:15:05.428
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at it in a way, well, what's next for Goonther?
01:15:05.948 --> 01:15:10.873
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's gonna be the most hated villain in the history of WWE.
01:15:11.900 --> 01:15:24.816
[SPEAKER_00]: The guy's going to come out there and fucking throw it in your face like he's smugged self is going to, bro, we got the makings of a fucking legend on our hands, but you think he's boring or not.
01:15:24.836 --> 01:15:25.717
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give it shit.
01:15:26.999 --> 01:15:28.481
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther is fucking great.
01:15:28.541 --> 01:15:29.923
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther has charisma.
01:15:30.003 --> 01:15:33.047
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther is a fantastic professional wrestling.
01:15:33.127 --> 01:15:37.232
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther is a throwback on a villain that everybody should really appreciate.
01:15:38.815 --> 01:15:51.650
[SPEAKER_00]: He just ended the legends of John Cena after 23 years by tapping him out and adults can't cope with the fact that their Cena is no longer alive.
01:15:52.371 --> 01:16:00.120
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I also look at it as a way where fans always want a hero to overcome evil in the end.
01:16:01.762 --> 01:16:02.443
[SPEAKER_00]: It's boring.
01:16:04.398 --> 01:16:09.245
[SPEAKER_00]: I would always lean towards evil, winning over good.
01:16:10.267 --> 01:16:11.488
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a bad guy.
01:16:11.528 --> 01:16:12.790
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the bad guys.
01:16:14.172 --> 01:16:18.959
[SPEAKER_00]: I love a good villain when you got one, you're run with it.
01:16:20.762 --> 01:16:23.305
[SPEAKER_00]: What does it do for Sina if he fades away?
01:16:25.388 --> 01:16:34.101
[SPEAKER_00]: Look it out and look at it in the way where if Sina faded away, what does it do for Gunther?
01:16:36.882 --> 01:16:38.123
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't survive, Gunther.
01:16:39.365 --> 01:16:50.157
[SPEAKER_00]: And the smile on his face knows, it tells everybody that he knows the future is in great hands with the guy that I am laying here with taping out to.
01:16:51.979 --> 01:17:02.350
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther's going to go on to potentially retire AJ Styles, Gunther's going to go on to retire Brock Lesnar, Gunther's going to go on to retire possibly Randy Orden.
01:17:02.971 --> 01:17:21.334
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where it is all going to lay in the lap of Triple H. And this is where he cannot fuck it up.
01:17:23.845 --> 01:17:41.625
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther needs to be, from this point on, booked like the most unstoppable fucking monster that Brock Lesnar was after ending the Undertaker streak, where he went on to destroy John Cena with 16 suplexes in the most shocking squash match in the history of the company.
01:17:43.407 --> 01:17:45.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther needs to go on that type of run.
01:17:47.052 --> 01:17:47.492
[SPEAKER_00]: Career.
01:17:48.093 --> 01:17:48.814
[SPEAKER_00]: After career.
01:17:49.174 --> 01:17:49.895
[SPEAKER_00]: After career.
01:17:50.135 --> 01:17:50.916
[SPEAKER_00]: After career.
01:17:54.811 --> 01:18:24.818
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when that time comes, and this is the reason why John Cena smiled, when that time comes, because of that moment, when Gunther is said to pass on that unbeatable dominance to Oberthemmy or Brock Lesnar or Carmelo Hayes or Giovanni Evans, or whoever may be tasked with that moment, the smile that John Cena gave you while he tapped out after five minutes
01:18:25.338 --> 01:18:40.893
[SPEAKER_00]: Then everybody at that point will understand why seen a smile because he was so happy leaving his essence with the man that WWE is going to take to ride from this point on so that he may pass it on to the next one.
01:18:41.293 --> 01:18:51.143
[SPEAKER_00]: The guy that you wanted in this moment that Gunther had, you all looked at it in the wrong way.
01:18:53.654 --> 01:19:03.908
[SPEAKER_00]: I would never, in a thousand lifetimes, look the other way and be upset with someone in Sina, putting over someone like Gunther.
01:19:05.910 --> 01:19:08.033
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther is now a generational heel.
01:19:08.133 --> 01:19:08.874
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have them.
01:19:10.576 --> 01:19:13.080
[SPEAKER_00]: Who on the WWE roster is that type of heel?
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:16.224
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, who is it?
01:19:18.847 --> 01:19:23.273
[SPEAKER_00]: Feel free to ask or answer the question.
01:19:24.316 --> 01:19:32.289
[SPEAKER_00]: The only level of heal that we have in this sport right now, he's not even on TV right now, which has actually hunt his star power.
01:19:33.471 --> 01:19:35.695
[SPEAKER_00]: Is M. Shayf, that's it.
01:19:37.218 --> 01:19:41.365
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have any generational heels of the modern era.
01:19:41.745 --> 01:19:42.747
[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at one.
01:19:44.836 --> 01:19:50.564
[SPEAKER_00]: The result of what happened, the aftermath of what happened, the emotion towards Gunther.
01:19:51.406 --> 01:19:57.955
[SPEAKER_00]: I would never, in a thousand lifetimes, disagree with anything that we're hearing right now.
01:19:58.396 --> 01:20:07.249
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's to build up someone like that and get someone that type of heat, because all I know is when that heat is transferred to the next guy, it's going to be a monumental occasion.
01:20:12.747 --> 01:20:18.214
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, chat, I'm sorry, I can't, I can't sit here and disagree with the decision.
01:20:18.234 --> 01:20:18.514
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.
01:20:19.235 --> 01:20:25.423
[SPEAKER_00]: People are making fun of the smile and the way that he tapped out and the fact that he tapped out and the fact that he tapped out the J.U.
01:20:25.463 --> 01:20:34.274
[SPEAKER_00]: So, going through, did and pat, mac, if you people are making all these excuses, you're a grown male, a grown adult human being, male or female, and you can't cope.
01:20:34.594 --> 01:20:40.341
[SPEAKER_00]: Your emotions got the best of you because you had to lay witness, bare witness.
01:20:40.321 --> 01:21:03.932
[SPEAKER_00]: To the John Cena you thought you knew for 23 years dying in front of you and let me tell you heroes don't always get the fucking outcome that they want Sometimes heroes die to born and make the next hero I don't know how else I could fucking put it
01:21:07.118 --> 01:21:11.144
[SPEAKER_00]: I got people up and arms over the way that I think about this.
01:21:11.805 --> 01:21:13.167
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why J.D.
01:21:13.207 --> 01:21:15.631
[SPEAKER_00]: hasn't reached 200,000 subscribers.
01:21:16.292 --> 01:21:17.433
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why J.D.
01:21:17.453 --> 01:21:18.475
[SPEAKER_00]: and opinions like this.
01:21:18.535 --> 01:21:19.396
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why J.D.
01:21:19.416 --> 01:21:20.438
[SPEAKER_00]: is a failed podcast.
01:21:20.458 --> 01:21:21.860
[SPEAKER_00]: But on the fucker, I'm not a failed podcast.
01:21:21.900 --> 01:21:24.464
[SPEAKER_00]: I had 7,000 fucking people on Saturday and it watched me.
01:21:24.744 --> 01:21:26.106
[SPEAKER_00]: Phil, where's failed?
01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:32.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a subscriber of mine because he's fucking stupid.
01:21:32.706 --> 01:21:39.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Go into Solomon's to his comments on his post show review, claiming that I'm now pro-Solomoncer, and I'm not watching JD anymore.
01:21:40.658 --> 01:21:47.949
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to tell you, but when we sit together on Tuesday night, everything that I uttered here is gonna be exactly the same way I uttered here to you, to him.
01:21:50.493 --> 01:21:54.159
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys think because I'm on Tuesday night, that I'm a nudered version of myself.
01:21:54.580 --> 01:21:57.544
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole premise of the fucking show is to debate.
01:21:58.267 --> 01:22:02.911
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole premise of the show is to speak, pro wrestling with a very good friend of mine.
01:22:03.752 --> 01:22:04.773
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going nowhere.
01:22:04.793 --> 01:22:05.793
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not quitting the show.
01:22:06.174 --> 01:22:07.935
[SPEAKER_00]: People make me out to be an enemy.
01:22:08.015 --> 01:22:11.298
[SPEAKER_00]: People make me out to be some fucking villain.
01:22:12.959 --> 01:22:13.580
[SPEAKER_00]: J.D.
01:22:13.660 --> 01:22:14.541
[SPEAKER_00]: Spake, J.D.
01:22:14.561 --> 01:22:15.201
[SPEAKER_00]: is a fraud.
01:22:15.241 --> 01:22:15.662
[SPEAKER_00]: J.D.
01:22:15.682 --> 01:22:16.342
[SPEAKER_00]: is a grifter.
01:22:16.362 --> 01:22:18.985
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the same way he is on his show with Jason.
01:22:19.005 --> 01:22:22.908
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know the whole premise of the fucking show.
01:22:24.449 --> 01:22:27.852
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not watching, you're missing a damn good fucking show.
01:22:28.878 --> 01:22:32.464
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not some rinky-dink-fucking bum on here.
01:22:32.484 --> 01:22:37.533
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing this a very long time, and I'm very confident in what I say, and very confident in the content that I create.
01:22:39.376 --> 01:22:52.219
[SPEAKER_00]: That does a give you the right to go to my co-hosts comment section, and plastered my name all of his comments section, where everybody ganks up on me because they didn't agree with the way that I thought about the ending to John Cena and Gunther.
01:22:55.068 --> 01:22:57.471
[SPEAKER_00]: He liked it or he didn't like it and I liked it.
01:22:57.891 --> 01:22:58.692
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a problem with it.
01:22:58.873 --> 01:22:59.233
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't.
01:23:00.995 --> 01:23:06.281
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's going to make Tuesday night appointment television?
01:23:06.302 --> 01:23:09.806
[SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't give you the right to tell me who you think I am.
01:23:10.487 --> 01:23:14.471
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't give you the right to exclaim that I'm so and so with my family.
01:23:14.591 --> 01:23:16.193
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any children on this.
01:23:16.334 --> 01:23:16.734
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that.
01:23:16.754 --> 01:23:17.335
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a grifter.
01:23:17.355 --> 01:23:18.036
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fraud.
01:23:18.456 --> 01:23:19.097
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fake.
01:23:19.157 --> 01:23:19.557
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all this.
01:23:19.678 --> 01:23:21.700
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all this negativity.
01:23:22.118 --> 01:23:26.685
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm loud, I'm obnoxious, I yell, I listen, I don't even fuck outta here.
01:23:27.926 --> 01:23:34.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, let me pretend to be something I'm not, let me pretend to be everybody like everybody else and be boring.
01:23:36.339 --> 01:23:41.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me be the fight fools and the fucking no IQs and fucking culta hollocks of the world, let me be boring.
01:23:43.329 --> 01:23:46.974
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me give you an opinion like everybody I got agree with everybody else I liked it.
01:23:47.315 --> 01:23:50.860
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why I loved it so much is because you fucking hated it.
01:23:55.075 --> 01:24:06.811
[SPEAKER_00]: I do that with a lot of things, I do that with things that I actually personally like myself if someone, if a lot of people start liking a battle like the band is much anymore because then they become commercialized.
01:24:08.793 --> 01:24:13.199
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always been the type of person to move away from what the public really likes.
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:14.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to stay in my own lane.
01:24:14.421 --> 01:24:23.513
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to be in my own bubble, liking what I like and then what I like, it's hugely popular then you start to know when it's like, all right.
01:24:24.151 --> 01:24:34.161
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to think like everybody else, what I like is going to get water down in New Journey and it's not going to feel the same anymore, but when I liked it, when I liked it, when less people liked it, it was genuine, it was fresh, it was real.
01:24:38.566 --> 01:24:40.568
[SPEAKER_00]: You can sit there and agree with me or not agree with me.
01:24:42.149 --> 01:24:45.433
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know it's, I'm not wavering from my opinion on it.
01:24:47.795 --> 01:24:52.740
[SPEAKER_00]: There are other things that you can complain about what Triple Edge has done, that's not one of them.
01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:53.601
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not one of them.
01:24:54.948 --> 01:24:56.670
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope I laid it out for you guys.
01:24:57.411 --> 01:25:08.663
[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to come on here and express myself in regards to seeing his final year, the match, the moment, the tap out, and just go over why I thought the way that I did.
01:25:10.145 --> 01:25:11.426
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people thought with their emotions.
01:25:12.748 --> 01:25:16.732
[SPEAKER_00]: And they thought with their emotions because they cannot let go of the scene of that they know.
01:25:17.052 --> 01:25:24.060
[SPEAKER_00]: And now the scene of that they know, past his knowledge, his aura, his essence.
01:25:24.766 --> 01:25:29.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Onto the next guy, and they can't cope with the fact that the scene that they know is dead.
01:25:30.718 --> 01:25:31.520
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys very much.
01:25:31.961 --> 01:25:33.624
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01:25:45.409 --> 01:25:46.150
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