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Speaker 1: I forgot to do the goddamn Buffco round up again. Well I'm doing now.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll switch the Bucco round up to four o'clock, even though well I was kind of a waste of time because I think the Bucco audience is probably watching the Buckos.
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Speaker 1: I'll reprise the Billy Cook.
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Speaker 2: Thing, the Jabbroni outfielder he got sent to Triple A when Griffin got called up. Cook was the guy who hoisted the cone. It leaves the void. I guess bring Beck cuts to do that. I'm repeating exactly something I.
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Speaker 1: Said a while back. But that's the Bucko round up for Friday.
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Speaker 2: Again, just to get a little more pirate tuck in before they actually throw the first pitch. I've been talking about how the Bucks need to go all in for the next three years, this year and three more. The overlap of schemes in Griffin, which I never thought would be as long.
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Speaker 1: As it now has the potential to be.
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Speaker 2: But the question I want to ask you pointedly is why do you trust Nutting? Why do you believe in Sharrington? Now those are good questions. I mean, what's going on the Griffin contract, the spending to get Lao, etc.
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Speaker 1: In the offseason.
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Speaker 2: The trade to get Lao, I should say, then you sign o'harne and Ozuna. It could be temporary appeasement and not real ambition. But the Pirates have moved the goalposts. Let's see if they keep driving down the field working in the favor of actual ambition. Is there's going to be an attendance spike this year, what with Griffin coming. Barna collapsed by the Pirates in April and May, which means.
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Speaker 1: A revenue spike.
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Speaker 2: Revenue drives nuttings bus Griffin, cash Cow March tickets. He will turn out to be a bargain at the price of that long term deal that nine years, one hundred and forty million. And even though Griffin's an expensive date by Bucko standards, if he turns out to be like I said, if he lives up to his billing, even most of his billing, even some of his billing, especially initially like I said at cash Cow. But I'm still skeptical.
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Speaker 1: Not in his own the Pirates owns owns. He's owned the Pirates is two thousand and seven.
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Speaker 2: Am I supposed to believe that he suddenly wants to win now one motivation might be nothing, might be embarrassed by wasting schemes because doing so to this point, these last two years, wasting schemes has been something ridicule, considered to be incredulous. Continuing it would be even more so. I mean the guys that once in a lifetime pitcher and he went seventeen and fifteen in games he started last year.
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Speaker 1: Once in a lifetime.
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Speaker 2: But that's what they said about David Byrr. I do think the Pirates are poised to win, but not as is, and like I said said, the next big test will be the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: Do you add.
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Speaker 2: Or do you get rid of Brandon Lyle for prospects because his contract's expiring, And that is the BUCO round up.
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Speaker 1: For Friday.
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Speaker 2: You're introducing Brian Giles. Looks like he's off the gas, which he was back then. I guess Kendall's up next. Jiles was only here for like five years. They're introducing him like a conquering hero. How long was Kendall here? Kendall gutt boy? Was Kendall a right place, right time type of guy? And here he comes because Kendall, they just opened the park and they had to keep somebody, which means they had to pay somebody, and it was Kendall and he got a big, big deal.
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Speaker 1: He was with the Pirates for eight years, a little bit longer.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because those guys are being perceived now as these old timey heroes. But I wouldn't say they were the best guys in the clubhouse. Back then, they would talk to new players by introduce themselves by saying, welcome to Hell.
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Speaker 1: And that was a group that really hazed rookies.
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Speaker 2: Mike Williams, the relief pitcher, Ed Sprague, the third baseman who was here briefly, and uh and uh Jack Wilson, boy, he was a rook and he got mad and it nearly came to blows.
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Speaker 1: And Jack was a good guy. I like Kendall too, He's been on the show. It's just that was a.
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Speaker 2: Weird mix, those two Giles and Kendall as leaders back then. Okay, now they haven't thrown out the first they haven't thrown the first pitch yet. But the cruise shave off as dreadlocks. When did he do that? That's something I missed, No dreads on cruise. They just showed O'Hearn. I'm a big o'hearne fan already. He is a professional hitter boy, just a really he reminds me of a little of Sean Casey. I should have said that when case was on earlier. He is just a really technically proficient hitter who just makes great decisions up there. That's my take on him so far. And you know why he's so technically proficient. The Pirates didn't develop him. Somebody else did. Okay, Penguins, did you see the game last night? Six' three loss To tampa once? Again too many goals Allot AND i hate That i'm talking about the goaltending all the, time BUT i think that's the biggest.
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Speaker 1: DEFICIENCY i think team defense could be.
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Speaker 2: BETTER i think they could be more, organized especially in the neutral. Zone last, Night tampa scored a couple of goals when they got extremely easy zone. Entries and that's how you can tell a team doesn't have a good structure. Defensively never mind what they do when the pucks across the blue line for the other. Team pay attention to what they do entering the. Zone how easy is it isn't? Contested do they get repelled? There do they turn it?
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Speaker 1: Over?
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Speaker 2: There is the play turned around there often, enough and last night the answers to those questions were.
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Speaker 1: No, no and.
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Speaker 2: NO i am concerned About, sid who doesn't look like he's a hundred. Percent and a caller earlier made a good point the minute they clinched the, Playoff sid shouldn't play till the playoffs start the minute they clinched the. Playoffs BUT i don't. Know it's the big thing is you want to finish top three in the. Division and The fires lost last. Night they're dropping. Back columbus has lost five in a. Row they're dropping. Back so it may turn out to be what we thought it would be before the season, started which will be that both wild cards come from The. Atlantic so all the pet was best bet is to finish second or, third the metro always has. Been and, now LIKE i, Said columbus losing five in a, row and, boy it goes to show The pens have been up and, down up.
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Speaker 1: And, down up and.
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Speaker 2: Down But, columbus it goes to show they looked like the hottest team in.
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Speaker 1: Hockey now they've lost five in a.
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Speaker 2: Row ain't nobody among any of The eastern teams Besides Tampa, bay Maybe buffalo Maybe, carolina but below those three for, sure.
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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody all that?
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Speaker 2: Good so your thoughts on The penguins game last, NIGHT i played Some steelers song Before Chris sims talking about how how nothing bad that happened Was tomlin's, fault AND i actually SOUND i didn't play Rich eyes and talking about The Kirk cousins. Thing we talked yesterday at length about what a great Businessman Kirk cousins. Is nobody seems worried That rogers might doublecross The. Steelers nobody seems worried at all about. That Like cabali De, fabo De faba's usually the voice of cynicism among The steelers beat, writers he's not under the. Tent he don't seem. Worried then, again Like i'm not worried BECAUSE i don't. Care But rogers has made them wait so. LONG i remember last year when he made him wait that, long and then after this past, season everybody, said, well they'll never have to wait that long this, year and here they are waiting just as.
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Speaker 1: Long it just it makes The steelers look so.
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Speaker 2: Bad but LIKE i said, earlier you look at The pirates with His griffin, signing and they have a decent team, finally and might have a good three four years ahead of them With skins And. Griffin you look at The, penguins whose plan is very visibly. WORKING i challenge Any steeler fan out there now eight three three four one TWO wsx tell me what their plan. Is tell me what The steelers' plan. Is, seriously you, can't cause they're. Ain't all they care about is winning the next. Game and that's Why Grandpa Game manager is just making the logo into his bitch because they think he's the best bet.
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Speaker 1: To Win week.
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Speaker 2: One and that's all there is any hoodles eight three three four one TWO. Wxdx we Got Seth rowerbau talking hockey at the bottom of the.
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Speaker 1: Hour you're listening to one oh. Five now Get.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do alternate reality play by play when you, know if we're on the air at the, time not as a commercial or talking to a, guest alternate reality PLAY i by play On Connor griffins first that, back which technically may be violating copy, right But i'm sixty. Five sue me And i'm, indemnified so sue. iHeart i'm gonna call right. Now eight three three four one TWO wxdx Seth rowaba will join me to talk hockey at the bottom of the. Hour, yeah there's still empty seats AT. Pnc in THE. Nfl what a bunch of. Douchebags they got streets, closed they got parking lots, closed and it's still how many weeks before the. Draft THE nfl has too much. Power yeah, STILL i mean not a. Ton but when they Honored mazarowski and some of the other great pirates who had, passed Like Yelroy face And Dave, Justy Dave justy in my, wheelhouse just like maz WHEN i was a, kid as the, closer him and him And Ramon hernandez did a righty lefty Thing justy Righty hernandez lefty with the seventy One world Champion pirates. TEAM a lot of empty seats for, that and even some more. Now but if you can't get, in you can't help. It and obviously the game sold. Out, uh let's.
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Speaker 1: Go To Heidi hi to your own with DOUBLE M, Hi.
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Speaker 3: MARK i was just wondering if you were A turgles last.
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Speaker 1: Night so you think that's something interesting to talk.
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Speaker 2: About, NO i. Wasn't thanks for the. CALL i do better eight, three, three four one two. Wxdx what was it turgles last? Night MAYBE i should have, Gone uh, yeah The penguins. Game let's talk some more about. That, NO i shouldn't have gone BECAUSE i was At Pittsburgh brewing for A penguin's watch.
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Speaker 1: Party, boy was that a lot of. Fun you know? What my biggest.
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Speaker 2: Accomplishment under the auspices Of awaken one eightying having. LOST i didn't weigh myself, lately But i'm over sixty pounds lost now is WHEN i go to those viewing parties At Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: Brewing they don't have.
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Speaker 2: Food on seale. There they have a few minor. Things they have chips and popcorn and great. Popcorn BUT i just people bring pizzas and, nachos they bring stuff.
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Speaker 1: In it's bring your own, food and everybody offers me.
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Speaker 2: Everything and last NIGHT i turned down everything at ate a chicken SALAD i had picked up at my favorite place in the, world The John Eagle express In. Harmerville but, anyway there were just THINGS i didn't like about The penguin.
00:11:54
Speaker 1: Game i'm not.
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Speaker 2: Panicking there's still four points safe in the playoff. Spot there's still said to be ninety seven percent certain of making. It it would take an utter collapse on their. Part they're playing a team this, weekend two games in a row at, home which is. Odd but they're Playing fourida twice Defending Stanley cup CHAMP i, know but they're in last, place they're beat, up and they're in the.
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Speaker 1: Tank the games that worry me a.
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Speaker 2: LOT i hope there's nothing to play for by the time they Play washington home and home one week from this, weekend Because washington would love to spoil The penguins party as the longtime, rival even though they're out of.
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Speaker 1: It BUT i didn't like the.
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Speaker 2: Goaltending i'm just not going to AND i bet when they lose in the first round that the goaltender will be at. Fault if they, DO i think they'd Be columbus even with the goaltending because theirs is no. Better and AGAIN i, EMPHASIZE i Know i'm harping on the goaltending a lot BECAUSE i Think morishoff should be.
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Speaker 1: Here BUT i don't Think skinner And shiloff.
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Speaker 2: STINK i just don't think they're good enough to win playoff, series not least playing in front of a team that has shall we say inconsistent performance in front of. Them SO i don't like the. Goaltending The stars aren't playing, well SID i don't think it's one hundred.
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Speaker 1: Percent gino hasn't done much since he came.
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Speaker 2: Back and the thing that upset me the most last, night The penguins played real good in the first, period fell down one. Nil raquel scored to tie it, up uh Carlom off freudian. Slip chinakov scored to make it two to One, pittsburgh and then they took their foot off the. Guest they visibly. Decelerated that was. Odd but then maybe they're just. Tired they just they've won Three they won the three games recently they had to, win which Was, ottawa The, islanders And. Detroit they had to win those, games and they, did including two of those on the. Road maybe last night was a mental. BREAK i don't. KNOW i just didn't see the INTENSITY i would like to, see AND i didn't see the GOALTENDING i would like to. See And i'm, sorry but there's almost no WAY i can stop talking about. That LIKE i, said we've Got Seth rooraba from the trip talking hockey just around the corner right. NOW i want to talk about the Bet Parks online casino and sportsbook. App make your downtime fun time because there's always another way to win with Bet. PARKS i use the, APP i recommend the. APP i love the. App do what the super genius does and bet Bet. Parks we got The Buco baseball home opener. Today it's going on as we. Speak bet more than the, score get some prop, bets don home on.
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Speaker 4: Period probably a combination of. BOTH i, mean let's not Forget tampa based probably one of the, deeper better teams in THE, Nhl so that's probably the wrong opponent to, ever you, know take take your foot off the gas. Against and you, know let's not short change in and there's a lot of talent. There they can exploit your, mistakes and The penguins made plenty of mistakes that could be. Exploded so also, too you, know as you've mentioned, repeatedly you, know for several weeks here on the goaltending is maybe an. Issue the reality is that probably most games The penguins will play for the rest of the season and going into the, postseason they're probably going to have the second best goaltender on the. Ice i'm not Sure Stuart skinner had his best game by any stretch the. Imagination and, again you play a team Like tampa to, day they're gonna exploit those. Weaknesses but, NO i think The penguins that did more than enough to earn that.
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Speaker 5: Loss last, Night.
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Speaker 2: China koff scored a couple of. Goals he's just a. Rocket do you like? Him On sid's? Line pros and? Cons did that switch?
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Speaker 4: ROOM i, mean the imagination goes in so many places as to where he could he could what he could do On Sidney crosby's. Line you, Know Sidney crosby, obviously you know fantastic talent can set up any even the pedestrian players over the years and be twenty goal. Scorers what what someone Like Eve Gertina koff.
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Speaker 5: Can do with?
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Speaker 4: Him it's, it there's probably no. Limit the downside of that, is do you disperse your death properly when you do? That you, KNOW i know it hasn't been doing much, lately but you, know you do you basically take away your second, line which at the time was you Know, Mulkan novak and chinakof do you basically make that second line newton as maybe to a trickle down effect the third line as? Well so h part of that's.
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Speaker 2: For telvit's center, too isn't it the necessity for? That then again you move no back to the. Wings SO i, mean, YEAH i, mean you've got a good, point like you've eliminated a great. Line then, again how great line had that line been playing given novak struggles.
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Speaker 4: Lately, yeah that line and as Well malkins seemed to have tailed off here a little bit. HERE i, mean he's, clearly you, know a diminished player really Since, december ever since he suffered an initial, injury that the bluff shoulder. Injury so there's not a good reason to keep that line. TOGETHER i would say the main reason, though to maybe Keep chinakov off the line With Sydney crosby is you want, to you, know spread your your depths across you, know as many lines as possible if you get into a playoff series and when you're playing With coltennting THAT'S i don't say it's, unreliable.
00:17:49
Speaker 5: But it can be.
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Speaker 4: Leaky sometimes you can compensate for that some way and by having depth spread out across your.
00:17:55
Speaker 5: Lineup is sit.
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Speaker 1: On he doesn't look like it and certainly he's not doing a.
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Speaker 4: Lot sure doesn't look like, it and he's been Very he and the team have been pretty, uh you, Know kurt in terms of any descriptions as far as what he's been dealing with when he missed, that you, know recent game last. Week you, KNOW i asked him if it was related to the injury he stuff from The, olympics and he just didn't want to answer. It, uh you, know, again he doesn't look quite look like you, know what he looked like even before The.
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Speaker 5: Olympics and, uh you know, AGAIN i don't know.
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Speaker 4: If maybe just the reality of him being thirty eight and you, know going through a grinder of an eighty two game season that can, compressed you, know because of The olympics as, well you, know what he dealt with in The olympics with his. Injury maybe there's just reality of things. There but you, know it's certainly just based on the eye. Test City crosby doesn't quite look like the player he was saved the Sebag january going into The. Olympics so if the peng was hard to have any sort of success meaningful in the, postseason they'll need a little bit more from, him at least in terms of. Production and that's if it helps weighing him down a little bit, there that could be a.
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Speaker 2: Problem, YEAH i think we'll. Know, oh if they clinch and he keeps. Playing if they clinch and he keeps, playing you, know in games that don't mean anything before the, playoffs then we'll know he's he's not.
00:19:10
Speaker 1: Hurt but BUT i have a hunch that the minute they, clinch he.
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Speaker 4: SITS i, MEAN i almost wonder if they would do that have With malkin, too just give him what he's gone through this. Season but The Sydney cris is a guy that you, know he's somewhat notorious that if he's not one hundred percent and if there's, nothing you, know too important on the, line like let's, say you, know game seven of a series or, whatever he'll pull himself out and arrest, himself just get his body. Right but, really if it pertains to his, skating if his he doesn't think his skating's right.
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Speaker 5: And he can't keep up beflow of the, game he's.
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Speaker 4: Not afraid to kind of you, know pull the shoot there and sit for the benefit of the greater. Goods so, yeah if they get THAT x next to their name and they're not too worried about the, seating whether they're the two or the three seats in the, metro you, know maybe we'll see that if they were to maybe dip down to the wild, card if there's a risk of dipping to the wild card or even missing the playoffs. Totally Maybe sydney car you, know grinds or. Whatever he's grinding through, there but they get that extra next to their, name they may have to make a decision right.
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Speaker 5: THERE a lot of things.
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Speaker 2: To say about the. Goaltending it's frustrating me once again last. Night too many goals and a few chintzy. Ones BUT i Guess skinner's got to be the. Guy give, me give me your front page on the, goaltending BECAUSE i just don't think it could win playoff.
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Speaker 1: SERIES I i think it could Be.
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Speaker 2: COLUMBUS i don't Think skinner beats uh Say sorokan from The islanders in a.
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Speaker 4: Series of the teams that are that are in a playoff position right, NOW i, MEAN i would there say The Blue jackets and The Buffalo savers the only two teams In Eastern conference that might have lesser goaltending than The Pittsburgh.
00:20:38
Speaker 5: Penguins. Uh you, Know i'm not, saying you, Know skinner and she lost aren't adequate in terms of getting to the. Playoffs but if you can do a.
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Speaker 4: Seven game series and you know you're gonna get steal your sorok and you're gonna make a clear. Deficit AND i know The penguins pung seven on thro uh you know a few games. Ago but that's that's a very rare exception. There you, know goltending generally is the difference in the play, offs and that's regardless of its aven't a trophy winner or someone just kind of comes out of nowhere and you, know gets hot for a series or. Two, uh The penguins are gonna probably have to overcome you, know what's going to be a clear deficit in any series they. Play you, know, again with a few, exceptions but if for the most part of the last tear and full, weeks they've probably had the second best goalten in any game they've. Played there's been good, moments you, KNOW i, thought you, Know Stewart skinner played out standing Against detroit and made some some really key saves there that that kept them comfortably in the lead in that.
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Speaker 5: Game but.
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Speaker 4: Then you have games like last night where he just looks very leaky against against the admittedly the poorest, defense tons of. Efforts so that's just gonna be the reality for what The penguins is. Go, uh the face going into the postseason, here they're probably gonna have the second best goaltender in that game that, series and they're gonna need some efforts elsewhere in their lineup to overcome.
00:21:50
Speaker 1: Them we're talking to Seth rawbo of The trip here on The Mark Madden. Show. Set The penguins can still blow, it can?
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Speaker 2: THEY i, mean when they Beat ottawa The islanders In, DETROIT I i thought that prety much wrapped it. Up somebody printed that they're ninety seven in but nonetheless they're just four points safe with with six games. LEFT i, mean it's very.
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Speaker 4: CAPABLE i, mean you, know they just played, tonight so they can very easily make up two points out of the three point deficit they have for second place in. Division and AND i Know florida is coming in here for these two games this, weekend and you know they're out of.
00:22:20
Speaker 5: It they have nothing to play for.
00:22:21
Speaker 4: It BUT i mean, they you, know put some a wrench into the plans of The senators in The Boston. Bruins the past two games went against those.
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Speaker 5: Teams that team's so full of.
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Speaker 4: Jerks and that's a very light LANGUAGE i would use to describe The Florida panthers they're so full of. JERKS i think you know we're ruining someone else's postseason plans is something that gives them. Motivation so, NO i MEAN i it would be, difficult maybe from a mathematical, standpoint for them to blow it, here BUT i think it's very easy just giving some of their. Limitations, AGAIN i hate to keep harping on the, goaltending but just give the some of their limitations in various areas for them to maybe lose two or three in a row here and really maybe put their postseason hopes that legitimate.
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Speaker 2: Risk, YEAH i don't see them blowing, it BUT i agree with you about the challenge That florida might offer because they're. Dinks they do have a lot of guy, hurt a lot of guys, hurt AND i think they're tanking for a draft picking. Boy what if they Got gavin mckenni, Somehow Because florida is going to be real good again next year when they heal up and rest. Up but even if they get two points this, weekend LIKE i, SAID i it's tough to imagine them not making it Set and you mentioned The, islanders But columbus is. Collapsing they were the hottest team for how long and now they've lost five in a.
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Speaker 4: Row, yeah they really seem to it gets a boost out of the coaching change there When Rick bonus love over and you.
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Speaker 5: THINK i talkto what it might be last a month or.
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Speaker 4: So maybe it would dissipate when The olympics came around and kind of reset everything for. Everyone but they kept on, going at least until. Recently SO i don't. KNOW i just a matter of you, know the limitations of their roster have maybe kind of caught up to.
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Speaker 5: Them you, know maybe.
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Speaker 4: INJURIES i FRANKLY i don't that's the one THING i think might have inferior goaltending to The penguin out of The Eastern conference would be hopefuls. Here so the combo Of, Elvisners leakins And Jack greeves it doesn't, exactly you, know steal much fear in terms of the closing. Shooters but that's a team THAT i, again even regards to the coaching, Change i'm not quite sure that there they were a team that everyone looked at soh' at the playoff. CONTENDER i, mean they still had some some players. THERE i think they were still. Developing maybe maybe there was a team for whatever plan they had in place was maybe a year away from from really getting.
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Speaker 5: THERE i plought them for.
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Speaker 4: Going out in the trade deadline and adding a few pieces here and, there but, AGAIN i just don't know that they necessarily had the talent that really make a legitimate push over the course of an compacted eighty two game. Schedule and, AGAIN i think their goaltending really is maybe kind of done them in here a little bit of here as of, late and that's why they're maybe fading a bit here in the final week of the.
00:24:48
Speaker 1: Season, see that's the, team AND i don't think it'll.
00:24:50
Speaker 2: Happen i'd love to Play columbus in the first round BECAUSE i think that's the one team The penguins might play in the first round where they at least be even with, goaltending or maybe you even have a slight.
00:25:00
Speaker 4: Edge, yeah LIKE i, said you, Know Mrs leakings And Grease. MERSELEAKENS i mean he's been the would be franchise goalie for however many years there that was only that they claimed it was gave them comfort and allowing. Start Gave Bob roski to walk a few ways a few years ago as a cre, agent and you, know whatever he's supposed to, be he's still not. It And Jack graves a kind of a mid level draft, pick a guy has shown some some flashes here and. There uh just but you, Know i'm sorry he was actually. Undrafted pardon, me but he's guy that you, know shown some flashes year and he's.
00:25:32
Speaker 5: Made the most of what he.
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Speaker 4: Has BUT i, AGAIN i don't see a franchise, goalie a number one goalie out of that mix. There and you say what you will about the limitations Of skinner and and And Archer sea, lost but you, know each of them at least one playoff series in THE. Nhl you, Know swart skinnersman in the last Two Stanley cup, finals she lost a kind of somewhat, famously you, know took The Vancouver connect to the second round a few years, back won The Calder cup last.
00:25:58
Speaker 2: Year forever that.
00:25:58
Speaker 4: Sport so, no if you're going to get a match up in the first round, Here columbus might be, optimal just based on how the goaltending depth shakes out for both.
00:26:07
Speaker 2: Organizations what's your take on Solder Bloom at six foot, eight he's a unique challenge for other teams and he's come up as unexpectedly physically physical and, tough not least because he beat the crap out of That mayfield guy in The islanders.
00:26:21
Speaker 4: Game, yeah when The Red wings were in town here a few nights, AGO i was talking to some of the media there and they were, like who is this?
00:26:27
Speaker 5: Guy they, said what he was doing in that, game and what they the highlights they saw.
00:26:31
Speaker 4: From The islander game was really nothing that he ever really displayed consistently In. Detroit AND i don't know if that's just based on How detroit has traditionally played or been coached to be more of a skillfulness, team and maybe at a six foot eight t hundred and fifty two pound guy maybe doesn't sit in there quite as, well even if He's swedish and there's been so Many swedes that's come Through. Detroit but really what he's done in the short sample size here with The Pittsburgh penguins has really been different from what he ever offered In. Detroit so and you, know be being put on that fourth line there in place Of blake was lot essentially you, know playing that style that The connor door and No old chari have. Employed maybe just kind of drug him into the. Fight you, know you see some of the goals he's helped. GENERATE i, mean just goes to the net and creates havoc by being such a large human and not necessarily just overly, aggressive but he's a problem for opposing defenseman to to kind of clear out or move or the. Gate AND i think that, allows you, know create some space or just opportunities for guys like door in a try to clean up some of those, chunky little garbage rebound, goals and then you had the physical. Element, obviously he Rattled Scott mayfield quite a bit in that, fight and that was his first career of. Fight so maybe it's just a classic case of him given an opportunity here that he can Get detroit and being used a way that he wasn't Using. Detroit and that's kind of been a common theme here with a lot of the guys that the thing was put in the line up this, year whether it's Justin brazil Or Parker. Wotherspoon you, know maybe is just the most recent case of.
00:27:54
Speaker 2: THAT i think, though when everyone's, healthy like When lazat comes, Back solder bloms of don't you, FIGURE i know they're not happy With Tommy, Novak BUT i look At Solder, Bloom, Lazotte doer and A chari all the fourth line, guys and that's all they are is fourth line. GUYS i couldn't elevate one of them to the top, nine let alone the top.
00:28:13
Speaker 5: Six and then those three guys there's a lot of Charity. DOER i, mean they're they're kind of a package deal.
00:28:20
Speaker 4: TOGETHER i don't necessarily see them developing the same chemistry if you, know if you stuck them on the third line with With Ben kenda Or Ricard raquel's the center or what have. You SO i think you have to kind of keep that trio together to get.
00:28:31
Speaker 5: The most out of. Them and If Elmer soderblum's a.
00:28:34
Speaker 4: Healthy, scratch so be. It that's a wonderful luxury to. Have that was kind of what they maybe were hoping for when they brought them in, here just to add some depth to their. Organization AND i, mean if you want to have a lengthy playoff, running And i'm not certainly not prognosticating anything was going all over this thing like the, final but if you want a like toy playoff, run you have to, go you, know pretty deep in your roster channel to deal with injuries and other, absences And Elmer, soderblums you're thirteenth. Forward that's a pretty good that at least the scene and be a pretty good option to turn to if you need to go into that. Depth so uh, NO i, mean that's what it's a wonderful problem to. HAVE i, mean you're already seeing with guys Like Avery hayeses offered. Something he went down to the Wolks bear spranting today because they just don't have a room right. Now you, Know rutger McGorty and real equivalent for their limitations and you, know maybe some of their shortcomings this, year they went down to Wolks bear to get some playing time because they're, not you, know frankly among the team's top twelve fowards right. Now so The pengleins have some depth at a wonderful luxury they probably haven't had for a few years right.
00:29:30
Speaker 2: Now we talked earlier About Cheeah coff currently playing with sid don't you feel when push comes to shove And lazatt's, healthy they they Reunite, Raquel rust And crosby and go pretty much back the way it was when everybody was.
00:29:43
Speaker 1: AVAILABLE i, mean if was eight years where he's going to be back on that.
00:29:47
Speaker 4: Line just you, Know Sydney crosby has his preferences and right Now ricard tells his. Preference and who, knows maybe if if they generate a few more goals here with Eager China coff the next game or, two that might. Change BUT i, mean if everyone's healthy and you have your cenator that's back to where you want it to. Be you, know maybe you move Rick Hard roquel back to the left wing there on that top. Line BUT i think right now it's the worthwhile. Experiment particularly Is Tommy novak's dealing with some you, know diminished play right, now and you maybe Give Ben kendall a few more reps and a slightly more elevated. Role and you, KNOW i, think you, know for one thing that's maybe been a hallmark of this. Season you, know dam he hasn't been afraid to do some r AND, d some research and, development AND i think you're seeing some of that right now with Using raquel at center in that role right. Now and that was something he was doing back in the. Preseason that was something was done out in the sethity When Sidney crossey came out of The olympics with an. Injury So rick Hard raquel's brown in a little bit more comfortable into that.
00:30:44
Speaker 5: Role he did it earlier in his career At.
00:30:46
Speaker 4: Anaheim you, know it was kind of the third line center behind guys Like Ryan getzoff And Ryan. Kessler BUT i think clearly he's he's better a better fit as a wing Per Sidney crossey's. Wing but he's shown some more than enough competency playing center when the occasion has been.
00:31:01
Speaker 1: Required s that's great.
00:31:03
Speaker 2: Stuff we'll talk again, soon see at the rink this weekend any, Time, mark we.
00:31:06
Speaker 1: Will that's seth rowaball from the.
00:31:08
Speaker 2: Trip Connor griffin with a double to drive in a run in his first at. Bat so The bucco revolution is upon. Us las Cal churist does one oh five nine THE x time to Ask mark anything forgot to plug, it so call, now better late than.
00:31:24
Speaker 1: Never eight three three four one TWO.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: Wxdx call in eight three three four one two wxdx and Ask mark. Anything or you could leave a talk back via the microphone icon at The iHeart media app pirates are blowing Out.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: Baltimore it's four. Nil in the uh.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Bottom of the, Second Connor griffin got his first big league, hitting his first big league get, bat A rbi, double came around to.
00:31:49
Speaker 1: Score trillo And davis have hits in this, rally and that's what they.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: Need they need guys you don't expect to do good to more than occasionally do.
00:31:58
Speaker 1: Good but it's a long, season long. Season they look good long.
00:32:06
Speaker 2: Season it's a big sample, game not a small sample, game but the small sample right this, second this, game in those last two games At cincinnati is very. Good and the adrenaline Signing griffin, provides just a talent like that in the locker room and on the field.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: Is huge as.
00:32:26
Speaker 2: WELL i like they're showing The griffin family is in a box AT. PNC i wonder If bob nottting charged. Him they're in a box AT, pnc and his younger, brother looks like about sixteen fifteen or.
00:32:42
Speaker 1: So is filming everything on his.
00:32:44
Speaker 2: Phone even though getting video of everything that happens won't be a, problem this is going to be extremely.
00:32:52
Speaker 1: Documented he's doing it. Himself HE'S diy and that's.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Cool that's, cool that's, family that's want something that's special to.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: HIM i like.
00:33:01
Speaker 2: It uh eight three three four one two wxdxter number to. Call we've been talking a lot Of, penguins you know WHAT i will. SAY I i get stuck talking about certain things again and again because that's the kind of PERSONALITY i. Have and The penguins goaltending, Thing i'm actually tired of talking about it because it won't be.
00:33:22
Speaker 1: Fixed skinner is what he, is so a. Shilloffs they're not gonna come. More shove.
00:33:26
Speaker 2: Up The penguins goaltending is just what it is. Now the rest of this season and getting into the. Playoffs and it's kind of funny that anybody that's A penguins, fan including, myself would have been happy just.
00:33:41
Speaker 1: To make the. Playoffs but, now, boy wouldn't it be great to win a playoff. SERIES i don't.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: Know if they lost in the first, round, WELL i gotta tell, you if they lost To columbus in the.
00:33:55
Speaker 1: First, round the Way coombas is playing, Now i'd be.
00:33:57
Speaker 2: Disappointed and if they lost to The Eye, islanders it'd be frustrating because it's always The. Islanders But i'm telling you, now if The penguins play The islanders in the first. Round if The penguins have home, ice that would be a really tough, choice tough. Prediction if The islanders had home, Ice i'd picked The islanders because of the goaltending, matchup which would be a. Mismatch soarrocans asn't a trophy, guy AND i know he as the trophy, contender AND i know he allots seven goals The penguins the other, night but can't count on that over a best of. Seven in, FACT i think we wouldn't see that again even once in the best of. Seven i'd be surprised if Sobrokn a looted more than three goals more than once in the best of, seven Whereas skinner And shilloffs are allowing three goals or more every. Game As mark anything, eight three to, three four to, one TWO. Wxd because let's go To George George rome With, Mark, Hey, mark.
00:34:53
Speaker 5: How are you?
00:34:54
Speaker 1: Good?
00:34:55
Speaker 5: GOOD i hear you've been lying To vegas your entire. Life you've never. Been And George clooney.
00:35:03
Speaker 1: That is this a takeoff on a? Movie is this Like? Oceans? Whatever the?
00:35:11
Speaker 2: Freak i've been To vegas too. OFTEN i didn't get. That even THOUGH i didn't get. It it was kind of, funny BUT i just didn't get. It, uh we've been talking about who played bad last night in The penguins. GAME i, Mean i'm not down On sid And. GINO i just know they need more AND i think they're playing hurt and that's not. Good if you wanted to look at The penguins, problems it's, goaltending stars are, cold poor defensive. STRUCTURE i thought they took their foot off the accelerator last. NIGHT i, mean none of that is impossible to, fix except to be, honest to, goaltending and probably the defensive structure because they just play how they play at this. Point at one, point, THOUGH i thought one of the strong points of the team.
00:36:04
Speaker 1: Was the defensive.
00:36:05
Speaker 2: Structure AND i wondered at the last commercial break if maybe the fourth line scoring so much had taking them out of that defensive, structure because the fourth line got to have, that you, know because Uh doer has fourteen goals At charia as. Eleven but if you look at the plus, minus which doesn't mean everything but doesn't mean, nothing that's not the case because A charian do or both among the team leaders and plus. MINUS i think getting rid Of qulac has upset the apple. Cart gerard's not as, good certainly not. DEFENSIVELY i Think tanger's been up and down the whole. YEAR i Think carlson, LATELY i mean he's so involved in quarterbacking the team and and you, know administering the. Puck maybe his defense hasn't been quite as good, lately but that's always been his. Game SO i CAN'T i can't speak out against.
00:37:03
Speaker 1: THAT i don't.
00:37:05
Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean like The penguins have have been a weird team all, year losing all those. SHOOTOUTS i, mean The devils have more home more more wins rather not, home but more wins than The, penguins and they're like way behind them because the loser.
00:37:20
Speaker 1: POINT i hate the loser. Point it's saving The.
00:37:22
Speaker 2: Penguins it's just an odd season and odd, team an early arriving. TEAM i like, that but but again the word is. Odd let's go To. Phil fill your all with DOUBLE m.
00:37:33
Speaker 6: Mark the goaltending. SITUATION i, mean to your, point you're not gonna win many four to three games in the. Playoffs AND i feel like every Time Stewart skinner gets a chance to like take the number one and, run he crafts the bed the next.
00:37:48
Speaker 1: Game oh that that that's.
00:37:49
Speaker 2: TRUE i mean he's gotten four of the last five starts and has played not very well in two of those four.
00:37:55
Speaker 1: Games wouldn't you? Agree?
00:37:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, Absolutely and you, Know showoff will look great tomorrow and then we're going to be back talking who's goalie in next.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: Week well you know why that, Is, phil because there's not a good.
00:38:07
Speaker 2: Answer you, know whenever you whenever you debate, something it can't come to a conclusion over the long. Haul it's because there is no right answer to that. DEBATE i think that's the case with The penguin's. Goaltending, yeah for.
00:38:20
Speaker 6: SURE i don't understand not calling Up.
00:38:22
Speaker 2: MORRISHOFF i don't understand not giving him a bigger look than they. Have they only had him play five games in the, league and that was due to injury Before New YEAR'S i can't believe he hasn't gotten even a look since The.
00:38:35
Speaker 6: New, year and he's doing phenomenal in THE ahl, right like his stats are popping the league down.
00:38:42
Speaker 2: There well, No i've been told point blank it's because that was the plan to keep him down there the whole.
00:38:46
Speaker 1: Year but at the risk of repeating.
00:38:48
Speaker 2: Myself the plan was also to finish bottom five and get a top five draft. Pick so if that part of the plan was, corrupted however, happily then you Can't you should be able to corrupt another part of the plan.
00:39:02
Speaker 1: To take it a step.
00:39:03
Speaker 3: Further, yeah we can't wait for the.
00:39:06
Speaker 6: Future if the future is kind of now by mistake or you, know happens to the.
00:39:10
Speaker 1: Futures the future is not the future is not.
00:39:13
Speaker 2: Now this isn't the team designed to even win a playoff series, now and if they, did it would, be LIKE i, said a happy. Accident but but, YEAH i, mean and now it's too late to bring him up. Now you're literally too close to the end of the season to give that a.
00:39:25
Speaker 1: Try, yeah for, sure you're the, latest the lightest you could have.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: Done it possibly was like a week or ten days, ago that's The but then you would have been putting him right in games Like, ottawa Uh islanders In detroit that really. Matter and that's not to say he wouldn't have won. THOSE i think he would.
00:39:43
Speaker 1: Have but if he doesn't win, those then the heat's really on. Management you see What i'm.
00:39:47
Speaker 4: Saying, yes, sir that's why you're a super.
00:39:50
Speaker 1: Genius let's go To Lou. Lou you're on with DOUBLE. M.
00:39:55
Speaker 3: MARK i feel LIKE i know you're saying they arrive early and. Whatnot AND i feel like The penguins think making the playoffs this year management that is is kind of like gravy and then Next.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: No, no they they. Don't they don't feel it's.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: GRAVY i know there's a part of them that which is they could have stuck to just the rebuilding plan and played more young guys and gotten a better draft. Pick but one thing this will do if they make the, playoffs and especially if they went, around we won't hear From sid's agent about How sid should be in the playoffs every year if they make the. Playoffs and LIKE i, said let alone went, Around sid's, agent pap person has no, complaint.
00:40:31
Speaker 1: Although he might.
00:40:32
Speaker 7: Anyway, OKAY i want to say about Miroshof Real, QUICK i feel like they can wait till next year to give him his. Turn but my, Feeling mark is there's gonna be a void of prospects coming up for one year because the next good wave is too young to help next. Year there's nothing In wilkesbury that's gonna draftically help this.
00:40:50
Speaker 2: Team that's probably. True there aren't any top sixes In. Wilkes i'm not sure there are any top six is in the. System but the top sixes can be replenished through aid and free. Agency you can't build everything from, within.
00:41:05
Speaker 3: That's, true but this is a lean free, Agent, Mark and if you Lose manth And malcolm. Whatever my point, is why not see if mirror shop gives you the best shot to win this, year which he, well they're.
00:41:17
Speaker 1: Just they're just not gonna do, that.
00:41:19
Speaker 7: Sir OBVIOUSLY i, understand BUT i just want to back up your. Point you say you talk about it too. MUCH i don't think you talk about it, enough because if they lose in the first round of bad, goaltending it's really gonna. Sting thank, You.
00:41:31
Speaker 1: Mark, yeah you're right about.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: That just LIKE i, said they couldn't call it morishoff right, before like say The ottawa, game because if he loses those, games then there's heat on. MANAGEMENT i think if the goaltending is the reason they lose in the first round or blow it down the, stretch then, yeah there's heat on management for that as.
00:41:48
Speaker 1: WELL a three three four one.
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Speaker 2: Two wsdx power it's up four to nothing in the, third we're gonna talk a Little, steelers, no a little, Football, WELL i mean not.
00:42:00
Speaker 1: Really, Perversely i'm talking about.
00:42:03
Speaker 2: Football i'm going to talk about HOW i hate to talk about football even AS i talk about.
00:42:07
Speaker 1: Football that's up, next one oh five.
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Speaker 2: Nine
Speaker 1: I forgot to do the goddamn Buffco round up again. Well I'm doing now.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll switch the Bucco round up to four o'clock, even though well I was kind of a waste of time because I think the Bucco audience is probably watching the Buckos.
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Speaker 1: I'll reprise the Billy Cook.
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Speaker 2: Thing, the Jabbroni outfielder he got sent to Triple A when Griffin got called up. Cook was the guy who hoisted the cone. It leaves the void. I guess bring Beck cuts to do that. I'm repeating exactly something I.
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Speaker 1: Said a while back. But that's the Bucko round up for Friday.
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Speaker 2: Again, just to get a little more pirate tuck in before they actually throw the first pitch. I've been talking about how the Bucks need to go all in for the next three years, this year and three more. The overlap of schemes in Griffin, which I never thought would be as long.
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Speaker 1: As it now has the potential to be.
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Speaker 2: But the question I want to ask you pointedly is why do you trust Nutting? Why do you believe in Sharrington? Now those are good questions. I mean, what's going on the Griffin contract, the spending to get Lao, etc.
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Speaker 1: In the offseason.
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Speaker 2: The trade to get Lao, I should say, then you sign o'harne and Ozuna. It could be temporary appeasement and not real ambition. But the Pirates have moved the goalposts. Let's see if they keep driving down the field working in the favor of actual ambition. Is there's going to be an attendance spike this year, what with Griffin coming. Barna collapsed by the Pirates in April and May, which means.
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Speaker 1: A revenue spike.
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Speaker 2: Revenue drives nuttings bus Griffin, cash Cow March tickets. He will turn out to be a bargain at the price of that long term deal that nine years, one hundred and forty million. And even though Griffin's an expensive date by Bucko standards, if he turns out to be like I said, if he lives up to his billing, even most of his billing, even some of his billing, especially initially like I said at cash Cow. But I'm still skeptical.
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Speaker 1: Not in his own the Pirates owns owns. He's owned the Pirates is two thousand and seven.
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Speaker 2: Am I supposed to believe that he suddenly wants to win now one motivation might be nothing, might be embarrassed by wasting schemes because doing so to this point, these last two years, wasting schemes has been something ridicule, considered to be incredulous. Continuing it would be even more so. I mean the guys that once in a lifetime pitcher and he went seventeen and fifteen in games he started last year.
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Speaker 1: Once in a lifetime.
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Speaker 2: But that's what they said about David Byrr. I do think the Pirates are poised to win, but not as is, and like I said said, the next big test will be the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: Do you add.
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Speaker 2: Or do you get rid of Brandon Lyle for prospects because his contract's expiring, And that is the BUCO round up.
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Speaker 1: For Friday.
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Speaker 2: You're introducing Brian Giles. Looks like he's off the gas, which he was back then. I guess Kendall's up next. Jiles was only here for like five years. They're introducing him like a conquering hero. How long was Kendall here? Kendall gutt boy? Was Kendall a right place, right time type of guy? And here he comes because Kendall, they just opened the park and they had to keep somebody, which means they had to pay somebody, and it was Kendall and he got a big, big deal.
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Speaker 1: He was with the Pirates for eight years, a little bit longer.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because those guys are being perceived now as these old timey heroes. But I wouldn't say they were the best guys in the clubhouse. Back then, they would talk to new players by introduce themselves by saying, welcome to Hell.
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Speaker 1: And that was a group that really hazed rookies.
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Speaker 2: Mike Williams, the relief pitcher, Ed Sprague, the third baseman who was here briefly, and uh and uh Jack Wilson, boy, he was a rook and he got mad and it nearly came to blows.
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Speaker 1: And Jack was a good guy. I like Kendall too, He's been on the show. It's just that was a.
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Speaker 2: Weird mix, those two Giles and Kendall as leaders back then. Okay, now they haven't thrown out the first they haven't thrown the first pitch yet. But the cruise shave off as dreadlocks. When did he do that? That's something I missed, No dreads on cruise. They just showed O'Hearn. I'm a big o'hearne fan already. He is a professional hitter boy, just a really he reminds me of a little of Sean Casey. I should have said that when case was on earlier. He is just a really technically proficient hitter who just makes great decisions up there. That's my take on him so far. And you know why he's so technically proficient. The Pirates didn't develop him. Somebody else did. Okay, Penguins, did you see the game last night? Six' three loss To tampa once? Again too many goals Allot AND i hate That i'm talking about the goaltending all the, time BUT i think that's the biggest.
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Speaker 1: DEFICIENCY i think team defense could be.
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Speaker 2: BETTER i think they could be more, organized especially in the neutral. Zone last, Night tampa scored a couple of goals when they got extremely easy zone. Entries and that's how you can tell a team doesn't have a good structure. Defensively never mind what they do when the pucks across the blue line for the other. Team pay attention to what they do entering the. Zone how easy is it isn't? Contested do they get repelled? There do they turn it?
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Speaker 1: Over?
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Speaker 2: There is the play turned around there often, enough and last night the answers to those questions were.
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Speaker 1: No, no and.
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Speaker 2: NO i am concerned About, sid who doesn't look like he's a hundred. Percent and a caller earlier made a good point the minute they clinched the, Playoff sid shouldn't play till the playoffs start the minute they clinched the. Playoffs BUT i don't. Know it's the big thing is you want to finish top three in the. Division and The fires lost last. Night they're dropping. Back columbus has lost five in a. Row they're dropping. Back so it may turn out to be what we thought it would be before the season, started which will be that both wild cards come from The. Atlantic so all the pet was best bet is to finish second or, third the metro always has. Been and, now LIKE i, Said columbus losing five in a, row and, boy it goes to show The pens have been up and, down up.
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Speaker 1: And, down up and.
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Speaker 2: Down But, columbus it goes to show they looked like the hottest team in.
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Speaker 1: Hockey now they've lost five in a.
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Speaker 2: Row ain't nobody among any of The eastern teams Besides Tampa, bay Maybe buffalo Maybe, carolina but below those three for, sure.
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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody all that?
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Speaker 2: Good so your thoughts on The penguins game last, NIGHT i played Some steelers song Before Chris sims talking about how how nothing bad that happened Was tomlin's, fault AND i actually SOUND i didn't play Rich eyes and talking about The Kirk cousins. Thing we talked yesterday at length about what a great Businessman Kirk cousins. Is nobody seems worried That rogers might doublecross The. Steelers nobody seems worried at all about. That Like cabali De, fabo De faba's usually the voice of cynicism among The steelers beat, writers he's not under the. Tent he don't seem. Worried then, again Like i'm not worried BECAUSE i don't. Care But rogers has made them wait so. LONG i remember last year when he made him wait that, long and then after this past, season everybody, said, well they'll never have to wait that long this, year and here they are waiting just as.
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Speaker 1: Long it just it makes The steelers look so.
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Speaker 2: Bad but LIKE i said, earlier you look at The pirates with His griffin, signing and they have a decent team, finally and might have a good three four years ahead of them With skins And. Griffin you look at The, penguins whose plan is very visibly. WORKING i challenge Any steeler fan out there now eight three three four one TWO wsx tell me what their plan. Is tell me what The steelers' plan. Is, seriously you, can't cause they're. Ain't all they care about is winning the next. Game and that's Why Grandpa Game manager is just making the logo into his bitch because they think he's the best bet.
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Speaker 1: To Win week.
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Speaker 2: One and that's all there is any hoodles eight three three four one TWO. Wxdx we Got Seth rowerbau talking hockey at the bottom of the.
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Speaker 1: Hour you're listening to one oh. Five now Get.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do alternate reality play by play when you, know if we're on the air at the, time not as a commercial or talking to a, guest alternate reality PLAY i by play On Connor griffins first that, back which technically may be violating copy, right But i'm sixty. Five sue me And i'm, indemnified so sue. iHeart i'm gonna call right. Now eight three three four one TWO wxdx Seth rowaba will join me to talk hockey at the bottom of the. Hour, yeah there's still empty seats AT. Pnc in THE. Nfl what a bunch of. Douchebags they got streets, closed they got parking lots, closed and it's still how many weeks before the. Draft THE nfl has too much. Power yeah, STILL i mean not a. Ton but when they Honored mazarowski and some of the other great pirates who had, passed Like Yelroy face And Dave, Justy Dave justy in my, wheelhouse just like maz WHEN i was a, kid as the, closer him and him And Ramon hernandez did a righty lefty Thing justy Righty hernandez lefty with the seventy One world Champion pirates. TEAM a lot of empty seats for, that and even some more. Now but if you can't get, in you can't help. It and obviously the game sold. Out, uh let's.
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Speaker 1: Go To Heidi hi to your own with DOUBLE M, Hi.
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Speaker 3: MARK i was just wondering if you were A turgles last.
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Speaker 1: Night so you think that's something interesting to talk.
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Speaker 2: About, NO i. Wasn't thanks for the. CALL i do better eight, three, three four one two. Wxdx what was it turgles last? Night MAYBE i should have, Gone uh, yeah The penguins. Game let's talk some more about. That, NO i shouldn't have gone BECAUSE i was At Pittsburgh brewing for A penguin's watch.
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Speaker 1: Party, boy was that a lot of. Fun you know? What my biggest.
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Speaker 2: Accomplishment under the auspices Of awaken one eightying having. LOST i didn't weigh myself, lately But i'm over sixty pounds lost now is WHEN i go to those viewing parties At Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: Brewing they don't have.
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Speaker 2: Food on seale. There they have a few minor. Things they have chips and popcorn and great. Popcorn BUT i just people bring pizzas and, nachos they bring stuff.
00:11:34
Speaker 1: In it's bring your own, food and everybody offers me.
00:11:37
Speaker 2: Everything and last NIGHT i turned down everything at ate a chicken SALAD i had picked up at my favorite place in the, world The John Eagle express In. Harmerville but, anyway there were just THINGS i didn't like about The penguin.
00:11:54
Speaker 1: Game i'm not.
00:11:54
Speaker 2: Panicking there's still four points safe in the playoff. Spot there's still said to be ninety seven percent certain of making. It it would take an utter collapse on their. Part they're playing a team this, weekend two games in a row at, home which is. Odd but they're Playing fourida twice Defending Stanley cup CHAMP i, know but they're in last, place they're beat, up and they're in the.
00:12:14
Speaker 1: Tank the games that worry me a.
00:12:18
Speaker 2: LOT i hope there's nothing to play for by the time they Play washington home and home one week from this, weekend Because washington would love to spoil The penguins party as the longtime, rival even though they're out of.
00:12:32
Speaker 1: It BUT i didn't like the.
00:12:34
Speaker 2: Goaltending i'm just not going to AND i bet when they lose in the first round that the goaltender will be at. Fault if they, DO i think they'd Be columbus even with the goaltending because theirs is no. Better and AGAIN i, EMPHASIZE i Know i'm harping on the goaltending a lot BECAUSE i Think morishoff should be.
00:12:52
Speaker 1: Here BUT i don't Think skinner And shiloff.
00:12:55
Speaker 2: STINK i just don't think they're good enough to win playoff, series not least playing in front of a team that has shall we say inconsistent performance in front of. Them SO i don't like the. Goaltending The stars aren't playing, well SID i don't think it's one hundred.
00:13:13
Speaker 1: Percent gino hasn't done much since he came.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: Back and the thing that upset me the most last, night The penguins played real good in the first, period fell down one. Nil raquel scored to tie it, up uh Carlom off freudian. Slip chinakov scored to make it two to One, pittsburgh and then they took their foot off the. Guest they visibly. Decelerated that was. Odd but then maybe they're just. Tired they just they've won Three they won the three games recently they had to, win which Was, ottawa The, islanders And. Detroit they had to win those, games and they, did including two of those on the. Road maybe last night was a mental. BREAK i don't. KNOW i just didn't see the INTENSITY i would like to, see AND i didn't see the GOALTENDING i would like to. See And i'm, sorry but there's almost no WAY i can stop talking about. That LIKE i, said we've Got Seth rooraba from the trip talking hockey just around the corner right. NOW i want to talk about the Bet Parks online casino and sportsbook. App make your downtime fun time because there's always another way to win with Bet. PARKS i use the, APP i recommend the. APP i love the. App do what the super genius does and bet Bet. Parks we got The Buco baseball home opener. Today it's going on as we. Speak bet more than the, score get some prop, bets don home on.
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00:15:26
Speaker 4: Period probably a combination of. BOTH i, mean let's not Forget tampa based probably one of the, deeper better teams in THE, Nhl so that's probably the wrong opponent to, ever you, know take take your foot off the gas. Against and you, know let's not short change in and there's a lot of talent. There they can exploit your, mistakes and The penguins made plenty of mistakes that could be. Exploded so also, too you, know as you've mentioned, repeatedly you, know for several weeks here on the goaltending is maybe an. Issue the reality is that probably most games The penguins will play for the rest of the season and going into the, postseason they're probably going to have the second best goaltender on the. Ice i'm not Sure Stuart skinner had his best game by any stretch the. Imagination and, again you play a team Like tampa to, day they're gonna exploit those. Weaknesses but, NO i think The penguins that did more than enough to earn that.
00:16:11
Speaker 5: Loss last, Night.
00:16:14
Speaker 2: China koff scored a couple of. Goals he's just a. Rocket do you like? Him On sid's? Line pros and? Cons did that switch?
00:16:21
Speaker 4: ROOM i, mean the imagination goes in so many places as to where he could he could what he could do On Sidney crosby's. Line you, Know Sidney crosby, obviously you know fantastic talent can set up any even the pedestrian players over the years and be twenty goal. Scorers what what someone Like Eve Gertina koff.
00:16:41
Speaker 5: Can do with?
00:16:41
Speaker 4: Him it's, it there's probably no. Limit the downside of that, is do you disperse your death properly when you do? That you, KNOW i know it hasn't been doing much, lately but you, know you do you basically take away your second, line which at the time was you Know, Mulkan novak and chinakof do you basically make that second line newton as maybe to a trickle down effect the third line as? Well so h part of that's.
00:17:07
Speaker 2: For telvit's center, too isn't it the necessity for? That then again you move no back to the. Wings SO i, mean, YEAH i, mean you've got a good, point like you've eliminated a great. Line then, again how great line had that line been playing given novak struggles.
00:17:20
Speaker 4: Lately, yeah that line and as Well malkins seemed to have tailed off here a little bit. HERE i, mean he's, clearly you, know a diminished player really Since, december ever since he suffered an initial, injury that the bluff shoulder. Injury so there's not a good reason to keep that line. TOGETHER i would say the main reason, though to maybe Keep chinakov off the line With Sydney crosby is you want, to you, know spread your your depths across you, know as many lines as possible if you get into a playoff series and when you're playing With coltennting THAT'S i don't say it's, unreliable.
00:17:49
Speaker 5: But it can be.
00:17:50
Speaker 4: Leaky sometimes you can compensate for that some way and by having depth spread out across your.
00:17:55
Speaker 5: Lineup is sit.
00:17:57
Speaker 1: On he doesn't look like it and certainly he's not doing a.
00:18:00
Speaker 4: Lot sure doesn't look like, it and he's been Very he and the team have been pretty, uh you, Know kurt in terms of any descriptions as far as what he's been dealing with when he missed, that you, know recent game last. Week you, KNOW i asked him if it was related to the injury he stuff from The, olympics and he just didn't want to answer. It, uh you, know, again he doesn't look quite look like you, know what he looked like even before The.
00:18:23
Speaker 5: Olympics and, uh you know, AGAIN i don't know.
00:18:26
Speaker 4: If maybe just the reality of him being thirty eight and you, know going through a grinder of an eighty two game season that can, compressed you, know because of The olympics as, well you, know what he dealt with in The olympics with his. Injury maybe there's just reality of things. There but you, know it's certainly just based on the eye. Test City crosby doesn't quite look like the player he was saved the Sebag january going into The. Olympics so if the peng was hard to have any sort of success meaningful in the, postseason they'll need a little bit more from, him at least in terms of. Production and that's if it helps weighing him down a little bit, there that could be a.
00:18:56
Speaker 2: Problem, YEAH i think we'll. Know, oh if they clinch and he keeps. Playing if they clinch and he keeps, playing you, know in games that don't mean anything before the, playoffs then we'll know he's he's not.
00:19:10
Speaker 1: Hurt but BUT i have a hunch that the minute they, clinch he.
00:19:12
Speaker 4: SITS i, MEAN i almost wonder if they would do that have With malkin, too just give him what he's gone through this. Season but The Sydney cris is a guy that you, know he's somewhat notorious that if he's not one hundred percent and if there's, nothing you, know too important on the, line like let's, say you, know game seven of a series or, whatever he'll pull himself out and arrest, himself just get his body. Right but, really if it pertains to his, skating if his he doesn't think his skating's right.
00:19:37
Speaker 5: And he can't keep up beflow of the, game he's.
00:19:40
Speaker 4: Not afraid to kind of you, know pull the shoot there and sit for the benefit of the greater. Goods so, yeah if they get THAT x next to their name and they're not too worried about the, seating whether they're the two or the three seats in the, metro you, know maybe we'll see that if they were to maybe dip down to the wild, card if there's a risk of dipping to the wild card or even missing the playoffs. Totally Maybe sydney car you, know grinds or. Whatever he's grinding through, there but they get that extra next to their, name they may have to make a decision right.
00:20:05
Speaker 5: THERE a lot of things.
00:20:07
Speaker 2: To say about the. Goaltending it's frustrating me once again last. Night too many goals and a few chintzy. Ones BUT i Guess skinner's got to be the. Guy give, me give me your front page on the, goaltending BECAUSE i just don't think it could win playoff.
00:20:20
Speaker 1: SERIES I i think it could Be.
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Speaker 2: COLUMBUS i don't Think skinner beats uh Say sorokan from The islanders in a.
00:20:26
Speaker 4: Series of the teams that are that are in a playoff position right, NOW i, MEAN i would there say The Blue jackets and The Buffalo savers the only two teams In Eastern conference that might have lesser goaltending than The Pittsburgh.
00:20:38
Speaker 5: Penguins. Uh you, Know i'm not, saying you, Know skinner and she lost aren't adequate in terms of getting to the. Playoffs but if you can do a.
00:20:45
Speaker 4: Seven game series and you know you're gonna get steal your sorok and you're gonna make a clear. Deficit AND i know The penguins pung seven on thro uh you know a few games. Ago but that's that's a very rare exception. There you, know goltending generally is the difference in the play, offs and that's regardless of its aven't a trophy winner or someone just kind of comes out of nowhere and you, know gets hot for a series or. Two, uh The penguins are gonna probably have to overcome you, know what's going to be a clear deficit in any series they. Play you, know, again with a few, exceptions but if for the most part of the last tear and full, weeks they've probably had the second best goalten in any game they've. Played there's been good, moments you, KNOW i, thought you, Know Stewart skinner played out standing Against detroit and made some some really key saves there that that kept them comfortably in the lead in that.
00:21:29
Speaker 5: Game but.
00:21:31
Speaker 4: Then you have games like last night where he just looks very leaky against against the admittedly the poorest, defense tons of. Efforts so that's just gonna be the reality for what The penguins is. Go, uh the face going into the postseason, here they're probably gonna have the second best goaltender in that game that, series and they're gonna need some efforts elsewhere in their lineup to overcome.
00:21:50
Speaker 1: Them we're talking to Seth rawbo of The trip here on The Mark Madden. Show. Set The penguins can still blow, it can?
00:21:55
Speaker 2: THEY i, mean when they Beat ottawa The islanders In, DETROIT I i thought that prety much wrapped it. Up somebody printed that they're ninety seven in but nonetheless they're just four points safe with with six games. LEFT i, mean it's very.
00:22:09
Speaker 4: CAPABLE i, mean you, know they just played, tonight so they can very easily make up two points out of the three point deficit they have for second place in. Division and AND i Know florida is coming in here for these two games this, weekend and you know they're out of.
00:22:20
Speaker 5: It they have nothing to play for.
00:22:21
Speaker 4: It BUT i mean, they you, know put some a wrench into the plans of The senators in The Boston. Bruins the past two games went against those.
00:22:28
Speaker 5: Teams that team's so full of.
00:22:31
Speaker 4: Jerks and that's a very light LANGUAGE i would use to describe The Florida panthers they're so full of. JERKS i think you know we're ruining someone else's postseason plans is something that gives them. Motivation so, NO i MEAN i it would be, difficult maybe from a mathematical, standpoint for them to blow it, here BUT i think it's very easy just giving some of their. Limitations, AGAIN i hate to keep harping on the, goaltending but just give the some of their limitations in various areas for them to maybe lose two or three in a row here and really maybe put their postseason hopes that legitimate.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: Risk, YEAH i don't see them blowing, it BUT i agree with you about the challenge That florida might offer because they're. Dinks they do have a lot of guy, hurt a lot of guys, hurt AND i think they're tanking for a draft picking. Boy what if they Got gavin mckenni, Somehow Because florida is going to be real good again next year when they heal up and rest. Up but even if they get two points this, weekend LIKE i, SAID i it's tough to imagine them not making it Set and you mentioned The, islanders But columbus is. Collapsing they were the hottest team for how long and now they've lost five in a.
00:23:32
Speaker 4: Row, yeah they really seem to it gets a boost out of the coaching change there When Rick bonus love over and you.
00:23:39
Speaker 5: THINK i talkto what it might be last a month or.
00:23:41
Speaker 4: So maybe it would dissipate when The olympics came around and kind of reset everything for. Everyone but they kept on, going at least until. Recently SO i don't. KNOW i just a matter of you, know the limitations of their roster have maybe kind of caught up to.
00:23:54
Speaker 5: Them you, know maybe.
00:23:55
Speaker 4: INJURIES i FRANKLY i don't that's the one THING i think might have inferior goaltending to The penguin out of The Eastern conference would be hopefuls. Here so the combo Of, Elvisners leakins And Jack greeves it doesn't, exactly you, know steal much fear in terms of the closing. Shooters but that's a team THAT i, again even regards to the coaching, Change i'm not quite sure that there they were a team that everyone looked at soh' at the playoff. CONTENDER i, mean they still had some some players. THERE i think they were still. Developing maybe maybe there was a team for whatever plan they had in place was maybe a year away from from really getting.
00:24:26
Speaker 5: THERE i plought them for.
00:24:28
Speaker 4: Going out in the trade deadline and adding a few pieces here and, there but, AGAIN i just don't know that they necessarily had the talent that really make a legitimate push over the course of an compacted eighty two game. Schedule and, AGAIN i think their goaltending really is maybe kind of done them in here a little bit of here as of, late and that's why they're maybe fading a bit here in the final week of the.
00:24:48
Speaker 1: Season, see that's the, team AND i don't think it'll.
00:24:50
Speaker 2: Happen i'd love to Play columbus in the first round BECAUSE i think that's the one team The penguins might play in the first round where they at least be even with, goaltending or maybe you even have a slight.
00:25:00
Speaker 4: Edge, yeah LIKE i, said you, Know Mrs leakings And Grease. MERSELEAKENS i mean he's been the would be franchise goalie for however many years there that was only that they claimed it was gave them comfort and allowing. Start Gave Bob roski to walk a few ways a few years ago as a cre, agent and you, know whatever he's supposed to, be he's still not. It And Jack graves a kind of a mid level draft, pick a guy has shown some some flashes here and. There uh just but you, Know i'm sorry he was actually. Undrafted pardon, me but he's guy that you, know shown some flashes year and he's.
00:25:32
Speaker 5: Made the most of what he.
00:25:33
Speaker 4: Has BUT i, AGAIN i don't see a franchise, goalie a number one goalie out of that mix. There and you say what you will about the limitations Of skinner and and And Archer sea, lost but you, know each of them at least one playoff series in THE. Nhl you, Know swart skinnersman in the last Two Stanley cup, finals she lost a kind of somewhat, famously you, know took The Vancouver connect to the second round a few years, back won The Calder cup last.
00:25:58
Speaker 2: Year forever that.
00:25:58
Speaker 4: Sport so, no if you're going to get a match up in the first round, Here columbus might be, optimal just based on how the goaltending depth shakes out for both.
00:26:07
Speaker 2: Organizations what's your take on Solder Bloom at six foot, eight he's a unique challenge for other teams and he's come up as unexpectedly physically physical and, tough not least because he beat the crap out of That mayfield guy in The islanders.
00:26:21
Speaker 4: Game, yeah when The Red wings were in town here a few nights, AGO i was talking to some of the media there and they were, like who is this?
00:26:27
Speaker 5: Guy they, said what he was doing in that, game and what they the highlights they saw.
00:26:31
Speaker 4: From The islander game was really nothing that he ever really displayed consistently In. Detroit AND i don't know if that's just based on How detroit has traditionally played or been coached to be more of a skillfulness, team and maybe at a six foot eight t hundred and fifty two pound guy maybe doesn't sit in there quite as, well even if He's swedish and there's been so Many swedes that's come Through. Detroit but really what he's done in the short sample size here with The Pittsburgh penguins has really been different from what he ever offered In. Detroit so and you, know be being put on that fourth line there in place Of blake was lot essentially you, know playing that style that The connor door and No old chari have. Employed maybe just kind of drug him into the. Fight you, know you see some of the goals he's helped. GENERATE i, mean just goes to the net and creates havoc by being such a large human and not necessarily just overly, aggressive but he's a problem for opposing defenseman to to kind of clear out or move or the. Gate AND i think that, allows you, know create some space or just opportunities for guys like door in a try to clean up some of those, chunky little garbage rebound, goals and then you had the physical. Element, obviously he Rattled Scott mayfield quite a bit in that, fight and that was his first career of. Fight so maybe it's just a classic case of him given an opportunity here that he can Get detroit and being used a way that he wasn't Using. Detroit and that's kind of been a common theme here with a lot of the guys that the thing was put in the line up this, year whether it's Justin brazil Or Parker. Wotherspoon you, know maybe is just the most recent case of.
00:27:54
Speaker 2: THAT i think, though when everyone's, healthy like When lazat comes, Back solder bloms of don't you, FIGURE i know they're not happy With Tommy, Novak BUT i look At Solder, Bloom, Lazotte doer and A chari all the fourth line, guys and that's all they are is fourth line. GUYS i couldn't elevate one of them to the top, nine let alone the top.
00:28:13
Speaker 5: Six and then those three guys there's a lot of Charity. DOER i, mean they're they're kind of a package deal.
00:28:20
Speaker 4: TOGETHER i don't necessarily see them developing the same chemistry if you, know if you stuck them on the third line with With Ben kenda Or Ricard raquel's the center or what have. You SO i think you have to kind of keep that trio together to get.
00:28:31
Speaker 5: The most out of. Them and If Elmer soderblum's a.
00:28:34
Speaker 4: Healthy, scratch so be. It that's a wonderful luxury to. Have that was kind of what they maybe were hoping for when they brought them in, here just to add some depth to their. Organization AND i, mean if you want to have a lengthy playoff, running And i'm not certainly not prognosticating anything was going all over this thing like the, final but if you want a like toy playoff, run you have to, go you, know pretty deep in your roster channel to deal with injuries and other, absences And Elmer, soderblums you're thirteenth. Forward that's a pretty good that at least the scene and be a pretty good option to turn to if you need to go into that. Depth so uh, NO i, mean that's what it's a wonderful problem to. HAVE i, mean you're already seeing with guys Like Avery hayeses offered. Something he went down to the Wolks bear spranting today because they just don't have a room right. Now you, Know rutger McGorty and real equivalent for their limitations and you, know maybe some of their shortcomings this, year they went down to Wolks bear to get some playing time because they're, not you, know frankly among the team's top twelve fowards right. Now so The pengleins have some depth at a wonderful luxury they probably haven't had for a few years right.
00:29:30
Speaker 2: Now we talked earlier About Cheeah coff currently playing with sid don't you feel when push comes to shove And lazatt's, healthy they they Reunite, Raquel rust And crosby and go pretty much back the way it was when everybody was.
00:29:43
Speaker 1: AVAILABLE i, mean if was eight years where he's going to be back on that.
00:29:47
Speaker 4: Line just you, Know Sydney crosby has his preferences and right Now ricard tells his. Preference and who, knows maybe if if they generate a few more goals here with Eager China coff the next game or, two that might. Change BUT i, mean if everyone's healthy and you have your cenator that's back to where you want it to. Be you, know maybe you move Rick Hard roquel back to the left wing there on that top. Line BUT i think right now it's the worthwhile. Experiment particularly Is Tommy novak's dealing with some you, know diminished play right, now and you maybe Give Ben kendall a few more reps and a slightly more elevated. Role and you, KNOW i, think you, know for one thing that's maybe been a hallmark of this. Season you, know dam he hasn't been afraid to do some r AND, d some research and, development AND i think you're seeing some of that right now with Using raquel at center in that role right. Now and that was something he was doing back in the. Preseason that was something was done out in the sethity When Sidney crossey came out of The olympics with an. Injury So rick Hard raquel's brown in a little bit more comfortable into that.
00:30:44
Speaker 5: Role he did it earlier in his career At.
00:30:46
Speaker 4: Anaheim you, know it was kind of the third line center behind guys Like Ryan getzoff And Ryan. Kessler BUT i think clearly he's he's better a better fit as a wing Per Sidney crossey's. Wing but he's shown some more than enough competency playing center when the occasion has been.
00:31:01
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00:31:03
Speaker 2: Stuff we'll talk again, soon see at the rink this weekend any, Time, mark we.
00:31:06
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00:31:08
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00:31:24
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00:31:37
Speaker 1: Baltimore it's four. Nil in the uh.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Bottom of the, Second Connor griffin got his first big league, hitting his first big league get, bat A rbi, double came around to.
00:31:49
Speaker 1: Score trillo And davis have hits in this, rally and that's what they.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: Need they need guys you don't expect to do good to more than occasionally do.
00:31:58
Speaker 1: Good but it's a long, season long. Season they look good long.
00:32:06
Speaker 2: Season it's a big sample, game not a small sample, game but the small sample right this, second this, game in those last two games At cincinnati is very. Good and the adrenaline Signing griffin, provides just a talent like that in the locker room and on the field.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: Is huge as.
00:32:26
Speaker 2: WELL i like they're showing The griffin family is in a box AT. PNC i wonder If bob nottting charged. Him they're in a box AT, pnc and his younger, brother looks like about sixteen fifteen or.
00:32:42
Speaker 1: So is filming everything on his.
00:32:44
Speaker 2: Phone even though getting video of everything that happens won't be a, problem this is going to be extremely.
00:32:52
Speaker 1: Documented he's doing it. Himself HE'S diy and that's.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Cool that's, cool that's, family that's want something that's special to.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: HIM i like.
00:33:01
Speaker 2: It uh eight three three four one two wxdxter number to. Call we've been talking a lot Of, penguins you know WHAT i will. SAY I i get stuck talking about certain things again and again because that's the kind of PERSONALITY i. Have and The penguins goaltending, Thing i'm actually tired of talking about it because it won't be.
00:33:22
Speaker 1: Fixed skinner is what he, is so a. Shilloffs they're not gonna come. More shove.
00:33:26
Speaker 2: Up The penguins goaltending is just what it is. Now the rest of this season and getting into the. Playoffs and it's kind of funny that anybody that's A penguins, fan including, myself would have been happy just.
00:33:41
Speaker 1: To make the. Playoffs but, now, boy wouldn't it be great to win a playoff. SERIES i don't.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: Know if they lost in the first, round, WELL i gotta tell, you if they lost To columbus in the.
00:33:55
Speaker 1: First, round the Way coombas is playing, Now i'd be.
00:33:57
Speaker 2: Disappointed and if they lost to The Eye, islanders it'd be frustrating because it's always The. Islanders But i'm telling you, now if The penguins play The islanders in the first. Round if The penguins have home, ice that would be a really tough, choice tough. Prediction if The islanders had home, Ice i'd picked The islanders because of the goaltending, matchup which would be a. Mismatch soarrocans asn't a trophy, guy AND i know he as the trophy, contender AND i know he allots seven goals The penguins the other, night but can't count on that over a best of. Seven in, FACT i think we wouldn't see that again even once in the best of. Seven i'd be surprised if Sobrokn a looted more than three goals more than once in the best of, seven Whereas skinner And shilloffs are allowing three goals or more every. Game As mark anything, eight three to, three four to, one TWO. Wxd because let's go To George George rome With, Mark, Hey, mark.
00:34:53
Speaker 5: How are you?
00:34:54
Speaker 1: Good?
00:34:55
Speaker 5: GOOD i hear you've been lying To vegas your entire. Life you've never. Been And George clooney.
00:35:03
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00:35:11
Speaker 2: Freak i've been To vegas too. OFTEN i didn't get. That even THOUGH i didn't get. It it was kind of, funny BUT i just didn't get. It, uh we've been talking about who played bad last night in The penguins. GAME i, Mean i'm not down On sid And. GINO i just know they need more AND i think they're playing hurt and that's not. Good if you wanted to look at The penguins, problems it's, goaltending stars are, cold poor defensive. STRUCTURE i thought they took their foot off the accelerator last. NIGHT i, mean none of that is impossible to, fix except to be, honest to, goaltending and probably the defensive structure because they just play how they play at this. Point at one, point, THOUGH i thought one of the strong points of the team.
00:36:04
Speaker 1: Was the defensive.
00:36:05
Speaker 2: Structure AND i wondered at the last commercial break if maybe the fourth line scoring so much had taking them out of that defensive, structure because the fourth line got to have, that you, know because Uh doer has fourteen goals At charia as. Eleven but if you look at the plus, minus which doesn't mean everything but doesn't mean, nothing that's not the case because A charian do or both among the team leaders and plus. MINUS i think getting rid Of qulac has upset the apple. Cart gerard's not as, good certainly not. DEFENSIVELY i Think tanger's been up and down the whole. YEAR i Think carlson, LATELY i mean he's so involved in quarterbacking the team and and you, know administering the. Puck maybe his defense hasn't been quite as good, lately but that's always been his. Game SO i CAN'T i can't speak out against.
00:37:03
Speaker 1: THAT i don't.
00:37:05
Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean like The penguins have have been a weird team all, year losing all those. SHOOTOUTS i, mean The devils have more home more more wins rather not, home but more wins than The, penguins and they're like way behind them because the loser.
00:37:20
Speaker 1: POINT i hate the loser. Point it's saving The.
00:37:22
Speaker 2: Penguins it's just an odd season and odd, team an early arriving. TEAM i like, that but but again the word is. Odd let's go To. Phil fill your all with DOUBLE m.
00:37:33
Speaker 6: Mark the goaltending. SITUATION i, mean to your, point you're not gonna win many four to three games in the. Playoffs AND i feel like every Time Stewart skinner gets a chance to like take the number one and, run he crafts the bed the next.
00:37:48
Speaker 1: Game oh that that that's.
00:37:49
Speaker 2: TRUE i mean he's gotten four of the last five starts and has played not very well in two of those four.
00:37:55
Speaker 1: Games wouldn't you? Agree?
00:37:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, Absolutely and you, Know showoff will look great tomorrow and then we're going to be back talking who's goalie in next.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: Week well you know why that, Is, phil because there's not a good.
00:38:07
Speaker 2: Answer you, know whenever you whenever you debate, something it can't come to a conclusion over the long. Haul it's because there is no right answer to that. DEBATE i think that's the case with The penguin's. Goaltending, yeah for.
00:38:20
Speaker 6: SURE i don't understand not calling Up.
00:38:22
Speaker 2: MORRISHOFF i don't understand not giving him a bigger look than they. Have they only had him play five games in the, league and that was due to injury Before New YEAR'S i can't believe he hasn't gotten even a look since The.
00:38:35
Speaker 6: New, year and he's doing phenomenal in THE ahl, right like his stats are popping the league down.
00:38:42
Speaker 2: There well, No i've been told point blank it's because that was the plan to keep him down there the whole.
00:38:46
Speaker 1: Year but at the risk of repeating.
00:38:48
Speaker 2: Myself the plan was also to finish bottom five and get a top five draft. Pick so if that part of the plan was, corrupted however, happily then you Can't you should be able to corrupt another part of the plan.
00:39:02
Speaker 1: To take it a step.
00:39:03
Speaker 3: Further, yeah we can't wait for the.
00:39:06
Speaker 6: Future if the future is kind of now by mistake or you, know happens to the.
00:39:10
Speaker 1: Futures the future is not the future is not.
00:39:13
Speaker 2: Now this isn't the team designed to even win a playoff series, now and if they, did it would, be LIKE i, said a happy. Accident but but, YEAH i, mean and now it's too late to bring him up. Now you're literally too close to the end of the season to give that a.
00:39:25
Speaker 1: Try, yeah for, sure you're the, latest the lightest you could have.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: Done it possibly was like a week or ten days, ago that's The but then you would have been putting him right in games Like, ottawa Uh islanders In detroit that really. Matter and that's not to say he wouldn't have won. THOSE i think he would.
00:39:43
Speaker 1: Have but if he doesn't win, those then the heat's really on. Management you see What i'm.
00:39:47
Speaker 4: Saying, yes, sir that's why you're a super.
00:39:50
Speaker 1: Genius let's go To Lou. Lou you're on with DOUBLE. M.
00:39:55
Speaker 3: MARK i feel LIKE i know you're saying they arrive early and. Whatnot AND i feel like The penguins think making the playoffs this year management that is is kind of like gravy and then Next.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: No, no they they. Don't they don't feel it's.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: GRAVY i know there's a part of them that which is they could have stuck to just the rebuilding plan and played more young guys and gotten a better draft. Pick but one thing this will do if they make the, playoffs and especially if they went, around we won't hear From sid's agent about How sid should be in the playoffs every year if they make the. Playoffs and LIKE i, said let alone went, Around sid's, agent pap person has no, complaint.
00:40:31
Speaker 1: Although he might.
00:40:32
Speaker 7: Anyway, OKAY i want to say about Miroshof Real, QUICK i feel like they can wait till next year to give him his. Turn but my, Feeling mark is there's gonna be a void of prospects coming up for one year because the next good wave is too young to help next. Year there's nothing In wilkesbury that's gonna draftically help this.
00:40:50
Speaker 2: Team that's probably. True there aren't any top sixes In. Wilkes i'm not sure there are any top six is in the. System but the top sixes can be replenished through aid and free. Agency you can't build everything from, within.
00:41:05
Speaker 3: That's, true but this is a lean free, Agent, Mark and if you Lose manth And malcolm. Whatever my point, is why not see if mirror shop gives you the best shot to win this, year which he, well they're.
00:41:17
Speaker 1: Just they're just not gonna do, that.
00:41:19
Speaker 7: Sir OBVIOUSLY i, understand BUT i just want to back up your. Point you say you talk about it too. MUCH i don't think you talk about it, enough because if they lose in the first round of bad, goaltending it's really gonna. Sting thank, You.
00:41:31
Speaker 1: Mark, yeah you're right about.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: That just LIKE i, said they couldn't call it morishoff right, before like say The ottawa, game because if he loses those, games then there's heat on. MANAGEMENT i think if the goaltending is the reason they lose in the first round or blow it down the, stretch then, yeah there's heat on management for that as.
00:41:48
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00:41:51
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00:42:00
Speaker 1: Really, Perversely i'm talking about.
00:42:03
Speaker 2: Football i'm going to talk about HOW i hate to talk about football even AS i talk about.
00:42:07
Speaker 1: Football that's up, next one oh five.
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Speaker 2: Nine
