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Hello everyone, quick at public service announcement before we get
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into this episode. We had Suda fifty one in the
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studio this week and we filmed a lot of fun
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goofs with him, and they're only going to be in
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the video version because of just the way things worked out.
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You can blame me.
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Well, they're funny and it's definitely worth a watch. So
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that's why this episode audio wise might be a little
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bit shorter and doesn't have some of these pseudo stuff in. Yeah,
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all the video stuff with Suda is available to watch,
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but don't worry.
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We've got a lot to get.
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Through, so let's open a letter a lot of time.
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On Wednesday, Valve confirmed their new hardware Steam Machine. The
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frame and the controller will no longer be making their
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early twenty twenty six launch plans. Valve stated that specific
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pricing and launch dates would have been shared by now,
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but they needed to push things back duety limited availability
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of critical components like memory and storage caused by the
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monomoalization of supply for AI data centers. All the shows
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us that the hardware will still ship within the first
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half of twenty twenty six.
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Do they know that for sure?
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The question this sucks. Yeah, does it really does.
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Yeah, I've been really looking forward to whatever that thing is.
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But even more so, I think the thing that bums
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me out the most, it's not so much the Steam
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machine but the controller. That controller looks like a blob
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of plastic. However, Yeah, I think the track pads are
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like the greatest thing on the planet for the Steam deck,
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and I.
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Do miss the track pad on my Rocket.
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Ay, And as a dude who plays like old ass esoteric,
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archaic PC games that don't have updated controls, those things are,
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like God said, So I'm kind of like, shucks.
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What do you think the final price will now be?
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What did we say last time?
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I think that's an.
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Eight ninety nine ninety nine, I.
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Think up one hundred. I think I think thou.
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N nine nine?
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What's your emergency?
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Nine? Oh, that's the only British people.
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That's also a TV show that we had for British people.
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So our version of nine one one is nine ninety nine.
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And there was a little TV show where they would
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do re enactments of things. Well, one of my friends
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was in it, and you got a big certificate for
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being in a house that was on.
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Fire, a big certificate for acting. Yeah did he get paid?
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I hope, So just got a certificate.
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You got a little participation. Hopefully Valve sounds out certificates
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in the poor.
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Sorry, that's coming soon.
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Yeah, this sucks. I think it'll be one.
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Thousand if if the if the tides have to go
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up and we see a switch to rise, like a
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price increase. We suggested fifty fifty for a switch fifty up,
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and then if it goes up potentially one hundred, then
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then I think there's no doubt that the steam machine
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is going to be a thousand.
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I mean, but it's okay everyone, because AI is gonna fix.
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All of it.
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Oh yeah, yeah, AI is gonna fix our problems. AI
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is gonna make your jobs easier. Everyone's gonna show up
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to the work. But oh I could do so much
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if you have one suck. Yeah, exactly, learn to code.
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I'm gonna show up to work.
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And have a job with AI.
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Just kidding anyways, Yeah, this sucks.
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Gaming is already an expensive hobby as it is.
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I know, I just want I just want that blob
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of a controller, But so it goes. My only concern
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is Valve saying like, don't worry we're gonna ship in
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the first half of the year. Of course, they're the business.
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They're the people who are gonna be able to know
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whether that's whether that's possible doing it. However, how many
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times have we had something announced delayed a little bit
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like it'll come out this time.
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But I'm just gonna it's gonna do a little bit more.
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If I had to guess, there we go. Well, I
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think they will ship. I think it will be a
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very emitted quantity. It's like whatever they've been able to
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you get a certificate round up.
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Sorry, well, Sony didn't Sony this week say like we're
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good on RAM and stuff for the rest of the year,
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Like we're good on things for the rest of.
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The year unless they've already just produced enough units they're sitting.
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But also, I mean, I feel like, you know, this
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thing is not going to search. Demand is not going
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to search for the PS five at this point. No,
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So they're like, okay, unless Saras really pulls something out
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of the bag.
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Yeah, but even then it still is like what ninety
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million units.
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d R four RAM. Oh, and I think like DDR
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five RAM is the thing that's really being hit right now.
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So bye bye older older models of RAM. Everyone d
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R four still pretty good.
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Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a bummer. I was really
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looking forward to that thing that's not going to come out.
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It's just it's next letter.
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Next letter. Obsidian Entertainment had a massive twenty twenty five,
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releasing three major games, Avowed, Grounded two and The Outer
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Worlds two, which is insane to Eight's.
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I mean that's also a studio in one year, but.
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I mean I find it like before I read the
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rest of us, I was like Holy Smokes on fire.
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While seemingly an impressive accomplishment, yep for the studio, the
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company has revealed that a Vowed in Outer Worlds two
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both underperformed and we will not be getting an Outer
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World's three. Grounded two was a success, but featured a
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shorter two year dep time versus.
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The second co production with Montreal.
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Yes, good point, versus the six plus years were a
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Vowed and Outer Worlds two. Studio design director Josh Sawyer
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told Bloomberg quote, Spacing those releases helps the company manage
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its resources and not burn everybody out. It's not good
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to release three games in the same year. It's the
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result of things going wrong, which means it feels like
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there's a whole lot of context missing in between that
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that we probably will never know what is the future
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of Obsidian.
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I mean they'll get put on a fallout you think so.
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I mean, my my prediction right now, they are gonna
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make a fallout game.
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Tim Kane is back.
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Well, that's the thing. It makes too much sense, like like,
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which is why I was like, not that, It's like
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I want that, because it's like they're the ones who
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should be doing it, Like they're the ones who made
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the best fallout. They're the ones who have like the
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foundational knowledge, the institutional knowledge of people who Tim Kane,
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for God's sakes, like the people who were like, yes,
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so they have the the the the they have the
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chops and the need to do it now. The other
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s frinkle of this is, yes, Tim Kne's coming back,
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just at a perfect time in which they could do something. However,
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Tim Kaine has also been pretty vocal about not liking
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to repeat himself. So and if you look at and
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this is actually Jean Luke kind of really I need
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to give credit to John Luke because I'm a big
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fan of those games and like stuff Tim Keane is
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working about, not as like close.
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In that way, that's like Tim Kayne's work. You should
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go follow his YouTube channel. It's excellent. Yeah, it is excellent.
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It's an excellent YouTube channel. Josh Sawyer also has a
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good YouTube channel that he started reposting on recently, also excellent. Yeah.
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So but anyways, my point being, are they gonna make
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another Fallout? I think it would make a whole lot
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of sense, like too much sense. Yes, And they've proven
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that they can put out three games in a year,
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then they will absolutely prove that they can make a
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followup game.
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F Well, they made New Vegas in eighteen months.
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I know, so sure it did. So anyways, is that
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the future of Obsidian doing not original ips.
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Xbox at this point is going to be so risk averse.
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Like we saw the financials from last week. Xbox is
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the one division not as profitable, like actually spending was
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down this year. They've had big success with Fallout, the
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big uptick in Fallout plays thanks to the TV show.
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I haven't seen the finale yet.
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I have is good.
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It's very good.
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Okay, great, I'm gonna watch that to Night. Yeah, they
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will be more risk averse and they will put more
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stock in that franchises. And who better to tackle a
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New Vegas two or even a New Vegas remaster an Obsidian.
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I would also like to hear them say whether or
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not they want to do it. Not that they would,
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but I'd be willing. I'd be interested to see what
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would happen if they were given an ip that they
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knew and we're familiar with, and we're like, all right,
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you did it in eighteen months before you have some
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people who are there from the beginning get at it.
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Yeah, because I think they have said that they like
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making their own original stuff when they were because you know,
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they get asked about New Vegas every constantly. Yeah, sure,
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three weeks. I would like to see them just I
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don't know. I'd like to see them almost go a
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little more of the double fine direction and make smaller
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games like Pentiment was really cool.
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while partnered with ideos to get that done Pentiment, I
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remember it is like what Josh Suaers said, it was
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like eleven team, super small team. And he's been pretty
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vocal about how he's mapped that production pipeline for like
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a year exactly and then some change and it like
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exactly hit that point. So seeing like a team like
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that that is capable of making smaller games Pentiment, which
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was critically acclaimed for the most part game spot Jordan
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may thought otherwise, but that's the nature of that game
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or of games and art. But like that was still
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kind of like a very surprising and like some of
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the Grounded is like kind of a surprise hit, I
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two is like fucking excellent. It's like, my it was
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my favorite game of last year.
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So like, yeah, I mean you're a big Grounded fan.
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Yeah, they they do good work over there.
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You know what people should do who watch and listen
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to this podcast, they should watch Jean Lukes, what is it?
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What's your video? Your your grounded to video.
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Called oh god, I think it got the title got changed.
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They got changed called like everything you need to know
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Grounded two hands on preview impressions. It's like the most
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title that changed, and.
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We learned that our audience are necessarily maybe not grounded
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to Grounded audience.
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Nobody watched that video.
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You should go to watch it because it's very good
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and John Luke's very passionate about that game, and we
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need more people watching stuff that Joel look's passionate about.
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We're all about anyways, quick part, if you were running
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up city and what would your next moves be? You
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already kind of said it.
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Yeah, I already said it, fall Out, But I still think,
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you know, having the double find approach of smaller teams
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incubating just cool ideas, because no one wants to get
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pigeonholed into.
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Doing Yeah, if they could have their gonna say corporate nonsense,
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their tent pole, their tent pole. All right, Look, I'm Bethesda.
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I don't know what I'm doing with them fall Out,
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seeing the Fallout franchise that I bought, And if I
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was Microsoft, I'd be like Bethesda, I don't know what
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you're doing. But this studio put out three games.
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In a year.
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Maybe they didn't maybe they didn't sell well, but they like,
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you know, you know what the game passed adoption was, Yes, exactly.
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They're like I think Outer World's too and about or
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or actually don't I stand corrected. I have not been
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able to play Out of Worlds too yet I want to.
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But Avowed is a game that I did not love. However,
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I thought there was like a lot of really cool
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things going for it. I just couldn't. There's just something
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I couldn't commit to. So maybe I'm not. I guess
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you shouldn't hear this from my mouth. But if I
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was Microsoft, I was like this dude. He put up
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three games that year, but that was a you put out.
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Starfields allegedly coming to PlayStation.
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Make your Fallout game, but also give little micro teams
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the chance to make something weird.
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Do something cool in the Fallout universe, you.
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Know, instead of Fallout for anniversary again coming to switch
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to instead of.
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Walton Goggans saying fifty words in Fallout seventy six.
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Did he count them?
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It was something together, Like he was.
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In the booth for thirty minutes in and out.
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It is so funny because I tried to replay that
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game over the holiday. Didn't get very far, unfortunately. But
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they literally put him at the opening, like when you
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restart your character, you go outside, He's just standing right
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there like it's me, it's me? Was was he like
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a moga from my family?
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No?
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Does he give you dog meat.
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No, No, he like because he has a question about
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being like a bounty hunter, but because I was level one,
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He's like, you're too uh, you're too green to do this.
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But if you ever, if you ever want to come
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do some tougher stuff.
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Ask someone else.
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That's what he would probably say, like, don't look at me.
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He's amazing that show.
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Yeah, so good, Okay, okay.
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Over Watch.
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Girl had it's second to annual Overwatch spotlight, detailing the
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future of the Overwatch franchise. That future is dropping two
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from Overwatch two. That's a social network ass like kids
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the Facebook. Yeah, anyway, as well as a reset on
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its seasons, a refocus on story, ten new heroes over
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the next year, and a bunch of changes throughout the game. Lucy,
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you were slash r and Overwatch Girly is Overwatch back?
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Does this get you excited to hop back in? I
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don't think there will ever be a game like Overwatch.
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I think from the very beginning of seeing that game,
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there was something very very special about it. I remember
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being in the room when Lucio was revealed because games Calm.
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Remember sat next to Luke Camali, who was at IGN
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at the time. And we were both just like, what
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is this colorful, pixar ass but fun looking multiplayer game?
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And like I dabbled in Call of Juicy, but Overwatch
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was the first multiplayer game.
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That I me too, really got into, Like that was
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like the first one that I cause there was a
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long stint where I was like, I just don't play
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it competitively online, don't play shooters, and then start playing
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Overwatch and I was like, I think I get it,
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Like I think that something's clicking in my brain.
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And it's just like I was thinking about this the
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other day when I saw the news trickle out, and
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it was like, man, I remember being in Hannah Mura
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or I co involved, or you know, thinking about all
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these heroes and these adventures that we'd had in these
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beautiful spaces, and.
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I think Overwatch.
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I think Overwatch delivered on its original promise, but I
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think there was a lot of gaps that it left unfilled.
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And I think, in particular, the one thing it really
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fumbled was its story.
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It could have immediately.
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Been coolest trailers, coolest trailers, coolest trailers like Pixar short
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worthy trailers, and then there was like attempts and like
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Michael choos there at the time, and then he left,
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and then there was the whole thing with over Watch
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two and they were gonna make it story missions, and
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then they were gonna have Talent trees and all this stuff,
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and it just feel it felt like it was just
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the ambition was there, but the willingness to follow through
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was not. So I'm really intrigued by when they say
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there's going to be this refocus on story. I kind
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of feel like they sort of have to rebuild that
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from the ground up because at this point I can
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barely remember who Talent one is.
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I'm just like, oh, yeah, the bad guys.
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Tell me, tell me, tell me what do you what.
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Do your remember of the Overwatch story?
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Okay, well there was the Omnik invasions, the Omnik cele Xeniata,
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the little Robot guys, and then the Talent were an
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evil the evil boys and girls, and then the Overwatch
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heroes are the ones who went to save the world.
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Where does the Gerbil fit in?
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Oh?
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What's his name?
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The Hamster? That's the thing is like, I never called them.
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I never called them by the actual names because when
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you play, it's like so much easier to go Hampster.
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He was an experiment. Here's a science experiment. I forgot
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how annoying that one was.
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But now we've got the.
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Jet pac cat yes, which was again a thing like
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if you followed Overwatch law, the jet pack cat wasn't
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mentioned like ten years ago or like maybe not yes,
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it was like in the background of a comic or
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in some like someone mentioned it and then they've actually
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followed this time.
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So that's what that was.
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The red button alert. We're like, all right, pull out
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the jet packcast We're dropping the two and pulling out
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the jet pack yet.
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So I think.
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One thing that gives me pause is ten new heroes.
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Overwatch is already a little too stuffed with heroes. I
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think back when I played it was like, I mean,
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looking at that opening roster was like, what twenty something,
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and I think it's close to forty if we haven't already.
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Keys, I haven't thirty. Plus I haven't played since Sigma
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Sigma was my last main boy, So I don't know, what, boy,
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what do you think they'll smell?
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Like?
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Kind of do a quick little side. One of my
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favorite running jokes from the Overwatch community back in the
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day is that on the official Overwatch forums, there was
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a guy called Tyrone, still remember his name. And Tyrone
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would get in trouble all the time on the Overwatch
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forums because he just would keep posting like, hey could
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get these mercy skin without shoes and he just kept
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asking characters without shoes on because he really liked feet.
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And then the revealed sigma and I was like, wow, Tyrone.
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Finally got the worship.
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Yeah, they got a man with his bare feet and
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the Dutch gravity boy and.
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A widow speakers deep as deep as the Devil's Canyon.
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That was great. So yeah, I I I'm interested to
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see how that all gets eked out. Yeah.
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Nothing, nothing has really scratched that for me. So maybe
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I will go back.
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Maybe maybe I will go maybe. But they got though,
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right why did they? Six was six six? Originally no
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overat it was and then they dropped it.
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They dropped it to the five five because.
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They wanted near a friend group.
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Genuinely, we had to do that.
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We had people sit out because we I mean I
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was lucky is that we had a very active Overwatch
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friend group and there was always six we sai. Sometimes
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we would have too many even for sixty six for
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six and so yeah, when they were like, Okay, it's
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five now.
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Well I.
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Thought they brought back.
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I think they brought it back for a limited time mode.
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I could be wrong, but if it's sixty six now,
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then what are we doing here? I'm going to go
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install it right now.
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Yeah. I think they brought it back in November. Look
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at you.
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That's how you know is really going off.
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That's how out of it I am about watch.
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Before we move on the next Leider, I just want
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to say some of my fondest memories pre pandemic was
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ending the workday playing Overwatch with.
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Yeah, watching Apex.
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Yeah good. What's what does Ash say? My business? Mar
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my business? Get them Bob? Yeah, that's the one I like.
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I like Ash.
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All right, letter have you heard about AI.
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Oh, for God's sake, the Move the Stephens.
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Yeah. Sorry.
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When I saw that in the theater, and for those
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of you who don't know, like the ending of that
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film is very, very sad. I remember it on V
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I saw that in the theaters, and I was very
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young when I saw it. I had to be like
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ninety nine or two thousands, something like that, but it
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was my I didn't really have an emotional reaction to that.
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Film because I think I was just too young. However,
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there was a woman like a girl who was like
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three seats like three it had to be like five
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rows in front of me, who was hysterical, and it
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was like I remember in hindsight, like not paying attention
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to the film and just hearing this woman ball hurt
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like vocally, like a total.
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Disaster at the time.
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That was you, No, that was me at the end
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of Paddington two.
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Oh, just having an attack. I also was a massive
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the end of Paddington too. Anyways, have you heard about AI?
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Here's just this week's AI and game stories rounded up
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for your convenience. You don't need AI to make that tune,
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do you.
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See?
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Gotcha? Try me AI do something better than that. As
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fast as that son of a bitch, Google O Genie
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Canna produce environmental slop at scale Take two. CEOs says
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jen a I had no part in GT six. That contradiction,
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Oh would you say? Blizzard president says their deaf teams
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are welcome to use jen a I in their games.
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Welcome to use it.
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Of Watch two, Aaron Kella, the director of the game,
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spoke to Jess Cogswell now a team and said did.
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Not use it in a watch in parentheses or not.
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Their choice, And in a recent survey, half of developers
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think jen ai is bad for the industry. How are
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we feeling about AI and games this week? I mean,
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I do want to say the uh, the amount of
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CEOs and big chair folk who are like, we love it,
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We're going to use it, We're using it, and then
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you actually hear from the developers under those CEOs who
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are actually making the content, we're actually making the games,
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and they're like, we're not. We're not doing it. We're
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not doing it. We're not doing it.
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And I love that.
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I just love the contradiction that the idea of like, oh, yeah,
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it's cool, and then you hear the guys that are
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like down there, like it's not word.
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You know it's gonna be bad.
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When it does.
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I'm not my do you do you think they're funneling
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too much money into it, that it's too big to fail.
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I think I don't think AI is going to fail,
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but I don't think it's going to succeed in the
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way they want it to. It is a like the
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thing that I keep that we collectively keep coming back
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to we've been talking about this ship for like two
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years now. It's kind of wild and that's why it's
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like it's not going away.
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Microsoft, are you starting to back pedal a little bit
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on stuff? They're like reevaluating co pilot in paint, which
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why they that, Like, why would they even do that?
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Billy the clip? Billy the clip is your AI pail?
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Now? Say that they used to help with a lot
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of building on Windows eleven and then everyone hates Windows eleven,
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so like trying to get trust back in it.
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Even before they knew even before they knew that there,
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everyone was like, maybe we should switch to Linux. And
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now Microsoft.
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We're trying.
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We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna spit on it and
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like shine it up a little bit.
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Twenty twenty six year the Linux.
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Yeah, well, I mean it would definitely be the year
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of Linux once the Steam Machine comes out, and that's
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people's like could potentially be their first like gaming PC.
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How I feel about AI generative AI?
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Yeah, that's that's the specific thing. Gender gender it gen
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gen jen a. I I'll just say that I'm not
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gonna because there's two because to me, I like, yeah,
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because two camps.
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Yeah, there's AI, which is like, well, first of all,
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there's also game AI, so game characters, so let's not
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get confused with that generative AI.
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I just think is you know who said it best,
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Del Walker?
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So Del Walker used to be Naughty Dog. I think
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he's now at Absurd Ventures. And he got into a
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big thing on Twitter a few a couple of years
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ago with Nicki Minaj Fans of all People, the Barbs and.
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Barbs.
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Nicki Minaj was using generative AI images and Dell just
496
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made a very astute observation that's like, this makes your
497
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brand look cheap because you don't have the money to
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hire an artist who could make something cool and bespoke
499
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for you. It looks the same as everything else. And
500
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I think that's a thing that's always really stuck with me.
501
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Forget about the.
502
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Environmental cost of generative AI, forget about the economical costs,
503
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.680
forget about the layoffs. It's like, if you are boiling
504
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it down to just what I am looking at, it
505
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doesn't look good. Nothing about it looks good. And that
506
00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.640
is just incredibly sad that we are being shovel shit
507
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and told that this is going to fix everything when
508
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it's the enthitification of art and life. It'sification of life itself.
509
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.720
Yeah, that's me paraphrasing Hiomia Hockey.
510
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Yeah, you get it right when he said, I strongly
511
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feel this is an insult to life itself. That is
512
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what generative AI boils down to.
513
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Yeah, this sucks. Yeah. I always like when like when
514
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you at the time when that general of AI and like,
515
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I just made a I just made a short film
516
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with a few prompts.
517
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Check it out.
518
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I'm gonna tell you, buddy, that thing looks like shit.
519
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.039
So the thing for me is the like my whole
520
00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:34.799
thing is like to me, it's the death of the spectacle,
521
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like everything that is exciting or awe inspiring, like a
522
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.160
roller coaster, like the idea of a roller coaster, and
523
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.440
like being like seeing something on a screen that is
524
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like how did they make that?
525
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.079
I mean, I'm a big Lord of the Rings fan,
526
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:50.680
going back to seeing Lord of the Rings in theaters.
527
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:54.480
Yes, that so I will never have that again. So
528
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.400
the thing is is like you see those things and
529
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when they happen so rarely, and you realize a group
530
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of people put their brains together and their crafts and
531
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.880
created this thing that like I had never seen before.
532
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.960
AI can now do it like that, And that's the
533
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:08.960
idea that all of a sudden it's a copycat and
534
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.960
it's essentially stealing all this other art to create this
535
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.960
this this spectacle that is no longer a spectacle. It's
536
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.119
no longer special because anybody can do it. So now, like,
537
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.559
my my hope is that like people will start to
538
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.119
get so fucking over. It's it's also the Marvel movie
539
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:25.880
comic book effect, where it's like every one of them
540
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.400
is just a spectacle of just like colors. And when
541
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you're like on a roller coaster for like ten minutes
542
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straight and all you're doing is it's like up and
543
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:35.200
down all around all this jazz, You're like you're gonna
544
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get bored and you're gonna be like, all right, take
545
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me off this ride. So yeah, my whole thing is
546
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Jenner a I is just going to destroy the idea
547
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of the spectacle. It's like you're it's gonna get watered down,
548
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:46.079
it's gonna it's cheap.
549
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.279
The thing that gets me as well is that there
550
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was something very emotional and.
551
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.119
What's the way I'm looking for vulnerable about is it
552
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putting yourself into something I really don't think slop array
553
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to who type I.
554
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.359
Spent all night craft McDonald's ad.
555
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.519
You don't understand how hard it's like you just had
556
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.319
ideas for what you wanted to make, but you didn't
557
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make it.
558
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That doesn't mean they're also equipped to make those ideas.
559
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.440
Like that's like that's another thing where like anybody can
560
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make anything now, But that doesn't mean you're you should.
561
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That doesn't mean you're supposed to do the amount of
562
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:23.839
AI commercials I see and across the.
563
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Board, Oh, the super Bowl is this weekend, they're gonna.
564
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Be but whether it's like there's like a progressive ad
565
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where it's like I saw it, and then there's like
566
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another ad I saw and like another ad all separate
567
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.640
companies and they're like big AI, like look what we did.
568
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.480
They all just had animals driving cars. Yes, I saw
569
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the board. All of them had the same idea. Oh man,
570
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you know what we can't do easily, have animals drive cars.
571
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:48.599
Guess what, motherfucker, you're not the only one to have
572
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.799
that idea, because that is the most low hanging fruit,
573
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Like what if we had animals do something? It's always
574
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.559
kind of like my problem with animal detectives I want
575
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to make a detective, but I don't have the ability
576
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:01.279
to make a creative range interesting with a normal human beings.
577
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:04.200
So I'll just put a hat on a dog. Oh, hey,
578
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.599
a duck. Let's just have a duck go solve a crime.
579
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.400
Quack the case. Anyways, To me, it's the same sort
580
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of like, all right, you made an animal talk congratulations.
581
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:15.880
Wow, me.
582
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Can't believe the duck detective Eugene mcquachlin took so many
583
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strays there.
584
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That's how we're feeling about it.
585
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.599
Let me let me just dial it back. I'm not
586
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:33.519
saying that duck quack detective game you like, is some
587
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sort of It was made by a person and a thing.
588
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.839
But I do think there's an alignment of my feeling
589
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of like people are just like, well, I guess we
590
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.920
gotta make this interesting, put an animal in it. Anyways,
591
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.519
I'll kill you. Next letter, Next letter.
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The male.
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Hi, Gurt and Lucky Wait.
594
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.559
Gerty're lucky you finally, Lucy? What does it feel like?
595
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.559
I get lucky a lot. Like my doctor emailed me
596
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.039
the other day and Lucky and they were like, hey,
597
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:10.519
cholesterol is too high, and I was like, I know,
598
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.880
how are you feeling lucky, I know, and then they've
599
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.119
immediately followed up with I'm sorry. I was like, it's fine, Hamps.
600
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.240
All time, there's been a very loud subset of especially
601
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:19.839
in New Vegas, fans, who have been critical of the
602
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:21.960
show for various reasons. Among them has been that the
603
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show either make certain player choice things cannon or skirts
604
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around them.
605
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.519
Conceptually, this isn't anything. New game series that have a.
606
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.799
Lot of player choice are often forced to pick cannon
607
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choices in sequels. Occasionally you get an interview where you
608
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.359
can pick your choices, but other times something just is.
609
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.920
In Kingdom Come Deliverance too, Henry just knows how to
610
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.079
read whether you chose to learn that in the first
611
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game or not so in a world of extremes, which
612
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.079
is better make hard cannon choices in sequels, risking alienating
613
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fans who do things differently, or do your very best
614
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.799
to avoid any mention of anything that treads on player choice,
615
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making for clunky writing or glaring o missions.
616
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It's from Wax. Hey Wax, Thanks Wax.
617
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I think you answered your own question like the latter
618
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part of what you said like it's I think it's
619
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more sloppy and glaring to just kind of ignore the
620
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potential of a choice a player had made, while while
621
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frustrating that your experience may not align with what is
622
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canonically made. I think it you risk more alienation by
623
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just a studio being like, let's just let's just not
624
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.759
let's not just not acknowledge it. Let's not you know,
625
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:32.880
maybe maybe like maybe we just won't have Henry even
626
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:34.799
look at a book, you know, and a kingdom come
627
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:36.799
Deliverance too, so the player never picks up a book,
628
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and that would be more of a very like wait
629
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what yeh.
630
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Hm, I mean that's just trying to think if it
631
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:49.160
has ever really bothered me, I think I'm you know,
632
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.440
even the first original ending in Mass Effect three didn't
633
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:51.799
bother me.
634
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:53.759
That's the big one.
635
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.839
But that's you know, I mean the big one, three
636
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big ones.
637
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.599
Well, it looks like also for whatever new Mass Effect
638
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.480
game they're making, is it Control and they're making destroy
639
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a Control canon.
640
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.599
That's the thing you don't know, And that's actually the
641
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.519
good question it is, because it's like whatever whatever they
642
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decide to canonize. Like as much as I did like Andromeda,
643
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:19.039
it was very clean by being like it takes place
644
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:20.079
in a different Galaxy.
645
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.559
Yeah you had like a Liara but but but they
646
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:24.039
but they.
647
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.319
Intentionally didn't even know what happened. So it's like, you
648
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.759
avoid the problem of canonizing mass.
649
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.839
Effect, which I think is a smarter choice.
650
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But the new one is will have to directly canonize it,
651
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.640
so you're gonna get people upset about like well, in
652
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.680
my mass Effect, I shot Rex in the face and
653
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.559
you know or whatever, like like you, I don't know.
654
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.440
It's like the Life Estranged just had the same problem
655
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:55.119
pop up, you know, with like how you how you? Uh.
656
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.680
They tried to canonize both by but they didn't do
657
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.759
it in a way where people felt satisfied with the
658
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.359
way they played out that choice.
659
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.319
They didn't even ask Ashley Budge to come back.
660
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:07.440
I did, and I don't. I don't like that.
661
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.200
Yeah, I mean, I guess my feeling is like it's
662
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.880
It creates a dilemma for say, storytellers and writers in
663
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.359
which say, Okay, I'm just gonna use Come Deliverance again
664
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.240
as an example, because that's what we mentioned. Say the
665
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.960
team and writers decided to make Kingdom Come Deliverance too,
666
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.000
and if they wanted to just avoid any sort of
667
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.119
canonical issues, they would ensure and just make a new
668
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.240
character and a new storyline, but at the at the
669
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.440
at the same sort of loss of being like, well,
670
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.400
other characters loved Henry we Well, that's.
671
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.200
That's the That's the other thing was like everyone is
672
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:40.799
too risk.
673
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.839
Averse, yes, and they're like, well, I'm attached to that person.
674
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.759
I'm attached to this character with this idea of this person.
675
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.599
When it comes to like stuff like Fallout, it's interesting
676
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.640
because every single person, every single player, has their own
677
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.839
their own story to tell, and in a way, I
678
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.359
when I watched them, like the Fallout show, I'm like
679
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.000
forgiving in the sense that I'm watching their story like
680
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:04.640
they're like like like if I were to look at
681
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.319
another player next to me, like Jean Lugan, I probably
682
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.599
have two totally different stories. So therefore, when I watched
683
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.000
the show, I'm watching another story. Does that change, like
684
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.279
like my relationship with the experiences? I had, no because
685
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.440
I still had my playthrough, I still had like my thing.
686
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:21.839
It's the same thing with a comic book like Watchmen.
687
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.880
When Watchmen changed the ending in the film versus the
688
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.759
comic book extremely controversial for a lot of people. One
689
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:34.240
of them is clearly a lot more interesting than the other. Yeah,
690
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.480
one is a little bit more self contained, and I
691
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.400
think the Watchman movie is great. I'm a huge fan
692
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.799
of that movie. I also think the comic book's amazing,
693
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.640
and I'm able to separate them and see them separately. However,
694
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.440
than the HBO show took the canatical ending of the
695
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.559
comic book and did something incredible with it.
696
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:56.599
So yeah, yep, it follows the weird one because I
697
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:04.160
think like the show. Sure, the show does like tries
698
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.400
to avoid canonizing as much as it can from New Vegas,
699
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:11.559
but inevitably, like does kind of has to to some degree.
700
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.480
And I think it's like because I have weird feelings
701
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.279
about it, where it's like, oh, I agree, it doesn't
702
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.000
invalidate my feelings about that game or that experience, But
703
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.119
I guess like in the sense that it's like, well,
704
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:26.519
if the show is canon and future games decide to
705
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.519
be set in that region and follow the canonization of
706
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.839
the show, it could like invalidate certain elements or make
707
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.480
changes that you don't agree with. So it's like I
708
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.640
have mixed feelings about it, like sometimes because I there's
709
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.559
a lot of decisions Bethesda makes about Fallout that I
710
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:50.359
don't care for but but but like, well, because New
711
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.240
Vegas was like a very direct sequel to two, you know,
712
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.839
and it had to canonize things from ball Out one
713
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.200
and two as well. So it's like, maybe there's a
714
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.960
follow one fan who's like, I didn't like that they
715
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.440
canonize this thing. So maybe, like I don't know, the
716
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.559
further you get along, the less happy everyone will be.
717
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.360
And I think you just sort of have to like
718
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.280
learn to just I don't know, let it go you level,
719
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:22.280
you have to enjoy your experience and maybe not get
720
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.719
us too hung up on canon. It's kind of like
721
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:26.280
it's a lesson you have to learn.
722
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.159
I also don't think canon.
723
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.280
Look at Star Wars, I don't feel like.
724
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.800
But but I get why canon does matter. I get
725
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.320
I think it can feel important, it can feel but
726
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.320
I think at a certain point you have to learn to.
727
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.360
Like not I was gonna say, I wish more games
728
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.159
and more properties had the Zelder approach to things, which
729
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.719
was the hey, here are the kind of tempoles and stuff.
730
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.719
But things can happen in different order, and then you
731
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:56.719
get people who different interpretations of.
732
00:34:58.519 --> 00:34:58.679
Well.
733
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I that's why I think one of the worst things
734
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.559
that Ted ever did was acknowledged that there was that
735
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acknowledged that there's a timeline, because to me, I'm like, no,
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you like, let the fans have that but never acknowledge it. Yeah,
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it's called the Legend of Zelda because it's a it's
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a story. Yeah, that's passed down.
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Yeah, changed my personal feelings. It doesn't really bug me
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because I try to view every single sort of thing, movie, game, comic,
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even if it exists in the same world as like
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a self contained sort of thing. The only time that
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gets messy, like the only like I don't know, like
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the X Files books that I've read and the Next
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Files comics I've read, and the X Files TV show
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that I've seen, I don't view them in the same
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realm of thing.
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They're just to me, just I mean, even the show
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it straight up decides that one of the seasons isn't.
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Oh yeah yeah season ten? What so, like, you know,
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wait a minute, the smoking.
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Man that happened to him? What are you sure you
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remember that?
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Right?
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Okay, Okay, that's the show.
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That's it.
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Hey, you know what what that was an episode of
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Curt and Lucy Got you covered?
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What?
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What?
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Yeah? No? Wild?
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Huh, well, thank you so much for listening. Just a
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quick reminder, if you are interested in seeing anything with
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Suit of fifty one, you should go over to the
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game Spot YouTube channel because we did a bunch of
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stuff with the guy, including a draw off. I'm very
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excited about.
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Him, very excited I am.
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Anyways, one more little announcement. We are taking a couple
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of weeks off. But don't worry. Everything's fine. We're just
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going to be in Vegas.
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Yes.
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I like that We're both going to Vegas, but not together.
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And I don't actually think i'll see you. Yeah, no,
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you want because you get in on what Thursday night?
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Wednesday?
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Oh wait, okay, maybe I we'll see it.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, look, I only strut around old Vegas. No,
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I want to see the old Fremont Street experience.
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I'm going to be on the convention no Aria, Yeah, yeah.
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You're going for work, not guy. I'm gonna have I'm
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gonna be uh, I'm gonna have some sugarport all over me.
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Oh, you're gonna see death loveon.
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I wish you wouldn't give the context.
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I was sorry.
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I just gonna say I'm going to beg the sugarport
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at me.
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Anyways, We're taking a couple of weeks off, so uh,
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but we're not going anywhere. We're gonna come back on
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February twenty eighth to have a new episode, maybe even
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a little surprise the follows. Time will tell, but yes,
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I just want to say in the meantime, thank you,
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thank you, We appreciate you. Email us at Gotcha, cover
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the GameSpot dot com, and.
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Drink some water today.
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Touch your toes if you can. Bye Bye,
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Hello everyone, quick at public service announcement before we get
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into this episode. We had Suda fifty one in the
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studio this week and we filmed a lot of fun
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goofs with him, and they're only going to be in
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the video version because of just the way things worked out.
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You can blame me.
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Well, they're funny and it's definitely worth a watch. So
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that's why this episode audio wise might be a little
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bit shorter and doesn't have some of these pseudo stuff in. Yeah,
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all the video stuff with Suda is available to watch,
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but don't worry.
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We've got a lot to get.
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Through, so let's open a letter a lot of time.
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On Wednesday, Valve confirmed their new hardware Steam Machine. The
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frame and the controller will no longer be making their
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early twenty twenty six launch plans. Valve stated that specific
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pricing and launch dates would have been shared by now,
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but they needed to push things back duety limited availability
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of critical components like memory and storage caused by the
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monomoalization of supply for AI data centers. All the shows
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us that the hardware will still ship within the first
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half of twenty twenty six.
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Do they know that for sure?
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The question this sucks. Yeah, does it really does.
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Yeah, I've been really looking forward to whatever that thing is.
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But even more so, I think the thing that bums
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me out the most, it's not so much the Steam
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machine but the controller. That controller looks like a blob
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of plastic. However, Yeah, I think the track pads are
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like the greatest thing on the planet for the Steam deck,
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and I.
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Do miss the track pad on my Rocket.
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Ay, And as a dude who plays like old ass esoteric,
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archaic PC games that don't have updated controls, those things are,
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like God said, So I'm kind of like, shucks.
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What do you think the final price will now be?
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What did we say last time?
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I think that's an.
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Eight ninety nine ninety nine, I.
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Think up one hundred. I think I think thou.
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N nine nine?
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What's your emergency?
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Nine? Oh, that's the only British people.
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That's also a TV show that we had for British people.
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So our version of nine one one is nine ninety nine.
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And there was a little TV show where they would
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do re enactments of things. Well, one of my friends
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was in it, and you got a big certificate for
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being in a house that was on.
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Fire, a big certificate for acting. Yeah did he get paid?
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I hope, So just got a certificate.
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You got a little participation. Hopefully Valve sounds out certificates
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in the poor.
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Sorry, that's coming soon.
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Yeah, this sucks. I think it'll be one.
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Thousand if if the if the tides have to go
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up and we see a switch to rise, like a
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price increase. We suggested fifty fifty for a switch fifty up,
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and then if it goes up potentially one hundred, then
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then I think there's no doubt that the steam machine
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is going to be a thousand.
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I mean, but it's okay everyone, because AI is gonna fix.
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All of it.
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Oh yeah, yeah, AI is gonna fix our problems. AI
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is gonna make your jobs easier. Everyone's gonna show up
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to the work. But oh I could do so much
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if you have one suck. Yeah, exactly, learn to code.
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I'm gonna show up to work.
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And have a job with AI.
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Just kidding anyways, Yeah, this sucks.
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Gaming is already an expensive hobby as it is.
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I know, I just want I just want that blob
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of a controller, But so it goes. My only concern
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is Valve saying like, don't worry we're gonna ship in
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the first half of the year. Of course, they're the business.
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They're the people who are gonna be able to know
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whether that's whether that's possible doing it. However, how many
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times have we had something announced delayed a little bit
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like it'll come out this time.
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But I'm just gonna it's gonna do a little bit more.
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If I had to guess, there we go. Well, I
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think they will ship. I think it will be a
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very emitted quantity. It's like whatever they've been able to
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you get a certificate round up.
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Sorry, well, Sony didn't Sony this week say like we're
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good on RAM and stuff for the rest of the year,
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Like we're good on things for the rest of.
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The year unless they've already just produced enough units they're sitting.
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Yeah.
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But also, I mean, I feel like, you know, this
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thing is not going to search. Demand is not going
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to search for the PS five at this point. No,
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So they're like, okay, unless Saras really pulls something out
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of the bag.
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Yeah, but even then it still is like what ninety
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million units.
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Also, I'm pretty sure the PS five has a d
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d R four RAM. Oh, and I think like DDR
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five RAM is the thing that's really being hit right now.
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So bye bye older older models of RAM. Everyone d
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R four still pretty good.
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Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a bummer. I was really
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looking forward to that thing that's not going to come out.
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It's just it's next letter.
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Next letter. Obsidian Entertainment had a massive twenty twenty five,
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releasing three major games, Avowed, Grounded two and The Outer
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Worlds two, which is insane to Eight's.
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I mean that's also a studio in one year, but.
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I mean I find it like before I read the
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rest of us, I was like Holy Smokes on fire.
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While seemingly an impressive accomplishment, yep for the studio, the
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company has revealed that a Vowed in Outer Worlds two
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both underperformed and we will not be getting an Outer
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World's three. Grounded two was a success, but featured a
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shorter two year dep time versus.
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The second co production with Montreal.
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Yes, good point, versus the six plus years were a
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Vowed and Outer Worlds two. Studio design director Josh Sawyer
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told Bloomberg quote, Spacing those releases helps the company manage
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its resources and not burn everybody out. It's not good
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to release three games in the same year. It's the
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result of things going wrong, which means it feels like
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there's a whole lot of context missing in between that
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that we probably will never know what is the future
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of Obsidian.
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I mean they'll get put on a fallout you think so.
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I mean, my my prediction right now, they are gonna
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make a fallout game.
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Tim Kane is back.
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Well, that's the thing. It makes too much sense, like like,
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which is why I was like, not that, It's like
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I want that, because it's like they're the ones who
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should be doing it, Like they're the ones who made
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the best fallout. They're the ones who have like the
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foundational knowledge, the institutional knowledge of people who Tim Kane,
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for God's sakes, like the people who were like, yes,
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so they have the the the the they have the
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chops and the need to do it now. The other
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s frinkle of this is, yes, Tim Kne's coming back,
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just at a perfect time in which they could do something. However,
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Tim Kaine has also been pretty vocal about not liking
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to repeat himself. So and if you look at and
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this is actually Jean Luke kind of really I need
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to give credit to John Luke because I'm a big
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fan of those games and like stuff Tim Keane is
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working about, not as like close.
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In that way, that's like Tim Kayne's work. You should
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go follow his YouTube channel. It's excellent. Yeah, it is excellent.
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It's an excellent YouTube channel. Josh Sawyer also has a
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good YouTube channel that he started reposting on recently, also excellent. Yeah.
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So but anyways, my point being, are they gonna make
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another Fallout? I think it would make a whole lot
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of sense, like too much sense. Yes, And they've proven
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that they can put out three games in a year,
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then they will absolutely prove that they can make a
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followup game.
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F Well, they made New Vegas in eighteen months.
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I know, so sure it did. So anyways, is that
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the future of Obsidian doing not original ips.
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Xbox at this point is going to be so risk averse.
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Like we saw the financials from last week. Xbox is
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the one division not as profitable, like actually spending was
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down this year. They've had big success with Fallout, the
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big uptick in Fallout plays thanks to the TV show.
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I haven't seen the finale yet.
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I have is good.
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It's very good.
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Okay, great, I'm gonna watch that to Night. Yeah, they
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will be more risk averse and they will put more
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stock in that franchises. And who better to tackle a
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New Vegas two or even a New Vegas remaster an Obsidian.
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I would also like to hear them say whether or
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not they want to do it. Not that they would,
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but I'd be willing. I'd be interested to see what
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would happen if they were given an ip that they
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knew and we're familiar with, and we're like, all right,
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you did it in eighteen months before you have some
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people who are there from the beginning get at it.
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Yeah, because I think they have said that they like
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making their own original stuff when they were because you know,
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they get asked about New Vegas every constantly. Yeah, sure,
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three weeks. I would like to see them just I
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don't know. I'd like to see them almost go a
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little more of the double fine direction and make smaller
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games like Pentiment was really cool.
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remember it is like what Josh Suaers said, it was
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like eleven team, super small team. And he's been pretty
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a year exactly and then some change and it like
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was critically acclaimed for the most part game spot Jordan
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may thought otherwise, but that's the nature of that game
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or of games and art. But like that was still
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the Grounded is like kind of a surprise hit, I
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two is like fucking excellent. It's like, my it was
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my favorite game of last year.
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You know what people should do who watch and listen
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to this podcast, they should watch Jean Lukes, what is it?
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What's your video? Your your grounded to video.
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They got changed called like everything you need to know
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Grounded two hands on preview impressions. It's like the most
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title that changed, and.
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We learned that our audience are necessarily maybe not grounded
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to Grounded audience.
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Nobody watched that video.
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You should go to watch it because it's very good
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and John Luke's very passionate about that game, and we
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need more people watching stuff that Joel look's passionate about.
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up city and what would your next moves be? You
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already kind of said it.
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you know, having the double find approach of smaller teams
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incubating just cool ideas, because no one wants to get
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pigeonholed into.
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Doing Yeah, if they could have their gonna say corporate nonsense,
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their tent pole, their tent pole. All right, Look, I'm Bethesda.
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I don't know what I'm doing with them fall Out,
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seeing the Fallout franchise that I bought, And if I
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was Microsoft, I'd be like Bethesda, I don't know what
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you're doing. But this studio put out three games.
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In a year.
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Maybe they didn't maybe they didn't sell well, but they like,
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you know, you know what the game passed adoption was, Yes, exactly.
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able to play Out of Worlds too yet I want to.
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I thought there was like a lot of really cool
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things going for it. I just couldn't. There's just something
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I couldn't commit to. So maybe I'm not. I guess
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you shouldn't hear this from my mouth. But if I
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was Microsoft, I was like this dude. He put up
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three games that year, but that was a you put out.
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Starfields allegedly coming to PlayStation.
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Make your Fallout game, but also give little micro teams
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the chance to make something weird.
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Do something cool in the Fallout universe, you.
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Know, instead of Fallout for anniversary again coming to switch
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to instead of.
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Walton Goggans saying fifty words in Fallout seventy six.
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Did he count them?
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It was something together, Like he was.
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In the booth for thirty minutes in and out.
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game over the holiday. Didn't get very far, unfortunately. But
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they literally put him at the opening, like when you
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restart your character, you go outside, He's just standing right
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there like it's me, it's me? Was was he like
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a moga from my family?
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Does he give you dog meat.
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being like a bounty hunter, but because I was level one,
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He's like, you're too uh, you're too green to do this.
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do some tougher stuff.
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Ask someone else.
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That's what he would probably say, like, don't look at me.
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He's amazing that show.
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Yeah, so good, Okay, okay.
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Over Watch.
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Girl had it's second to annual Overwatch spotlight, detailing the
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future of the Overwatch franchise. That future is dropping two
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from Overwatch two. That's a social network ass like kids
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the Facebook. Yeah, anyway, as well as a reset on
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its seasons, a refocus on story, ten new heroes over
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the next year, and a bunch of changes throughout the game. Lucy,
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you were slash r and Overwatch Girly is Overwatch back?
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Does this get you excited to hop back in? I
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don't think there will ever be a game like Overwatch.
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I think from the very beginning of seeing that game,
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there was something very very special about it. I remember
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being in the room when Lucio was revealed because games Calm.
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at the time. And we were both just like, what
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is this colorful, pixar ass but fun looking multiplayer game?
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And like I dabbled in Call of Juicy, but Overwatch
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was the first multiplayer game.
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That I me too, really got into, Like that was
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like the first one that I cause there was a
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long stint where I was like, I just don't play
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it competitively online, don't play shooters, and then start playing
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Overwatch and I was like, I think I get it,
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Like I think that something's clicking in my brain.
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other day when I saw the news trickle out, and
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it was like, man, I remember being in Hannah Mura
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or I co involved, or you know, thinking about all
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these heroes and these adventures that we'd had in these
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beautiful spaces, and.
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I think Overwatch.
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I think Overwatch delivered on its original promise, but I
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think there was a lot of gaps that it left unfilled.
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And I think, in particular, the one thing it really
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fumbled was its story.
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It could have immediately.
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Been coolest trailers, coolest trailers, coolest trailers like Pixar short
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worthy trailers, and then there was like attempts and like
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Michael choos there at the time, and then he left,
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and then there was the whole thing with over Watch
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two and they were gonna make it story missions, and
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then they were gonna have Talent trees and all this stuff,
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and it just feel it felt like it was just
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the ambition was there, but the willingness to follow through
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was not. So I'm really intrigued by when they say
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there's going to be this refocus on story. I kind
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of feel like they sort of have to rebuild that
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from the ground up because at this point I can
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barely remember who Talent one is.
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I'm just like, oh, yeah, the bad guys.
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Tell me, tell me, tell me what do you what.
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Do your remember of the Overwatch story?
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Okay, well there was the Omnik invasions, the Omnik cele Xeniata,
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the little Robot guys, and then the Talent were an
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evil the evil boys and girls, and then the Overwatch
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heroes are the ones who went to save the world.
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Where does the Gerbil fit in?
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Oh?
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What's his name?
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The Hamster? That's the thing is like, I never called them.
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I never called them by the actual names because when
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you play, it's like so much easier to go Hampster.
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He was an experiment. Here's a science experiment. I forgot
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how annoying that one was.
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But now we've got the.
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Jet pac cat yes, which was again a thing like
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if you followed Overwatch law, the jet pack cat wasn't
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mentioned like ten years ago or like maybe not yes,
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it was like in the background of a comic or
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in some like someone mentioned it and then they've actually
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followed this time.
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So that's what that was.
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The red button alert. We're like, all right, pull out
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the jet packcast We're dropping the two and pulling out
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the jet pack yet.
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One thing that gives me pause is ten new heroes.
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Overwatch is already a little too stuffed with heroes. I
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think back when I played it was like, I mean,
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looking at that opening roster was like, what twenty something,
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and I think it's close to forty if we haven't already.
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Keys, I haven't thirty. Plus I haven't played since Sigma
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Sigma was my last main boy, So I don't know, what, boy,
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what do you think they'll smell?
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Like?
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Kind of do a quick little side. One of my
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favorite running jokes from the Overwatch community back in the
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day is that on the official Overwatch forums, there was
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a guy called Tyrone, still remember his name. And Tyrone
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would get in trouble all the time on the Overwatch
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forums because he just would keep posting like, hey could
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get these mercy skin without shoes and he just kept
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asking characters without shoes on because he really liked feet.
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And then the revealed sigma and I was like, wow, Tyrone.
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Finally got the worship.
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Yeah, they got a man with his bare feet and
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the Dutch gravity boy and.
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A widow speakers deep as deep as the Devil's Canyon.
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That was great. So yeah, I I I'm interested to
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see how that all gets eked out. Yeah.
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Nothing, nothing has really scratched that for me. So maybe
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I will go back.
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Maybe maybe I will go maybe. But they got though,
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right why did they? Six was six six? Originally no
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overat it was and then they dropped it.
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They dropped it to the five five because.
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They wanted near a friend group.
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Genuinely, we had to do that.
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We had people sit out because we I mean I
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was lucky is that we had a very active Overwatch
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friend group and there was always six we sai. Sometimes
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we would have too many even for sixty six for
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six and so yeah, when they were like, Okay, it's
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five now.
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Thought they brought back.
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I think they brought it back for a limited time mode.
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I could be wrong, but if it's sixty six now,
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then what are we doing here? I'm going to go
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install it right now.
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Yeah. I think they brought it back in November. Look
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at you.
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That's how you know is really going off.
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That's how out of it I am about watch.
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Before we move on the next Leider, I just want
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to say some of my fondest memories pre pandemic was
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ending the workday playing Overwatch with.
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Yeah, watching Apex.
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Yeah good. What's what does Ash say? My business? Mar
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my business? Get them Bob? Yeah, that's the one I like.
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I like Ash.
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All right, letter have you heard about AI.
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Oh, for God's sake, the Move the Stephens.
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Yeah. Sorry.
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When I saw that in the theater, and for those
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of you who don't know, like the ending of that
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film is very, very sad. I remember it on V
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I saw that in the theaters, and I was very
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young when I saw it. I had to be like
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ninety nine or two thousands, something like that, but it
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was my I didn't really have an emotional reaction to that.
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Film because I think I was just too young. However,
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there was a woman like a girl who was like
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three seats like three it had to be like five
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rows in front of me, who was hysterical, and it
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was like I remember in hindsight, like not paying attention
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to the film and just hearing this woman ball hurt
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like vocally, like a total.
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Disaster at the time.
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That was you, No, that was me at the end
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of Paddington two.
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Oh, just having an attack. I also was a massive
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the end of Paddington too. Anyways, have you heard about AI?
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Here's just this week's AI and game stories rounded up
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for your convenience. You don't need AI to make that tune,
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do you.
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See?
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Gotcha? Try me AI do something better than that. As
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fast as that son of a bitch, Google O Genie
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Canna produce environmental slop at scale Take two. CEOs says
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jen a I had no part in GT six. That contradiction,
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Oh would you say? Blizzard president says their deaf teams
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are welcome to use jen a I in their games.
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Welcome to use it.
435
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Of Watch two, Aaron Kella, the director of the game,
436
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spoke to Jess Cogswell now a team and said did.
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Not use it in a watch in parentheses or not.
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Their choice, And in a recent survey, half of developers
439
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think jen ai is bad for the industry. How are
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we feeling about AI and games this week? I mean,
441
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I do want to say the uh, the amount of
442
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CEOs and big chair folk who are like, we love it,
443
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We're going to use it, We're using it, and then
444
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you actually hear from the developers under those CEOs who
445
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are actually making the content, we're actually making the games,
446
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and they're like, we're not. We're not doing it. We're
447
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not doing it. We're not doing it.
448
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And I love that.
449
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I just love the contradiction that the idea of like, oh, yeah,
450
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it's cool, and then you hear the guys that are
451
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like down there, like it's not word.
452
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You know it's gonna be bad.
453
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When it does.
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I'm not my do you do you think they're funneling
455
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too much money into it, that it's too big to fail.
456
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I think I don't think AI is going to fail,
457
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but I don't think it's going to succeed in the
458
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way they want it to. It is a like the
459
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thing that I keep that we collectively keep coming back
460
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to we've been talking about this ship for like two
461
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years now. It's kind of wild and that's why it's
462
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like it's not going away.
463
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Microsoft, are you starting to back pedal a little bit
464
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on stuff? They're like reevaluating co pilot in paint, which
465
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why they that, Like, why would they even do that?
466
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Billy the clip? Billy the clip is your AI pail?
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Now? Say that they used to help with a lot
468
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of building on Windows eleven and then everyone hates Windows eleven,
469
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so like trying to get trust back in it.
470
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Even before they knew even before they knew that there,
471
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everyone was like, maybe we should switch to Linux. And
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now Microsoft.
473
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We're trying.
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We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna spit on it and
475
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like shine it up a little bit.
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Twenty twenty six year the Linux.
477
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Yeah, well, I mean it would definitely be the year
478
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of Linux once the Steam Machine comes out, and that's
479
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people's like could potentially be their first like gaming PC.
480
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How I feel about AI generative AI?
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Yeah, that's that's the specific thing. Gender gender it gen
482
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gen jen a. I I'll just say that I'm not
483
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gonna because there's two because to me, I like, yeah,
484
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because two camps.
485
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Yeah, there's AI, which is like, well, first of all,
486
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there's also game AI, so game characters, so let's not
487
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get confused with that generative AI.
488
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I just think is you know who said it best,
489
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Del Walker?
490
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So Del Walker used to be Naughty Dog. I think
491
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he's now at Absurd Ventures. And he got into a
492
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big thing on Twitter a few a couple of years
493
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ago with Nicki Minaj Fans of all People, the Barbs and.
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Barbs.
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Nicki Minaj was using generative AI images and Dell just
496
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made a very astute observation that's like, this makes your
497
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brand look cheap because you don't have the money to
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hire an artist who could make something cool and bespoke
499
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for you. It looks the same as everything else. And
500
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I think that's a thing that's always really stuck with me.
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Forget about the.
502
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Environmental cost of generative AI, forget about the economical costs,
503
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forget about the layoffs. It's like, if you are boiling
504
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it down to just what I am looking at, it
505
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doesn't look good. Nothing about it looks good. And that
506
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is just incredibly sad that we are being shovel shit
507
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and told that this is going to fix everything when
508
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it's the enthitification of art and life. It'sification of life itself.
509
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.720
Yeah, that's me paraphrasing Hiomia Hockey.
510
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Yeah, you get it right when he said, I strongly
511
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feel this is an insult to life itself. That is
512
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what generative AI boils down to.
513
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Yeah, this sucks. Yeah. I always like when like when
514
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you at the time when that general of AI and like,
515
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I just made a I just made a short film
516
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with a few prompts.
517
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Check it out.
518
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I'm gonna tell you, buddy, that thing looks like shit.
519
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.039
So the thing for me is the like my whole
520
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thing is like to me, it's the death of the spectacle,
521
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like everything that is exciting or awe inspiring, like a
522
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roller coaster, like the idea of a roller coaster, and
523
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like being like seeing something on a screen that is
524
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like how did they make that?
525
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I mean, I'm a big Lord of the Rings fan,
526
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going back to seeing Lord of the Rings in theaters.
527
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Yes, that so I will never have that again. So
528
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.400
the thing is is like you see those things and
529
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when they happen so rarely, and you realize a group
530
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of people put their brains together and their crafts and
531
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created this thing that like I had never seen before.
532
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AI can now do it like that, And that's the
533
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idea that all of a sudden it's a copycat and
534
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.960
it's essentially stealing all this other art to create this
535
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this this spectacle that is no longer a spectacle. It's
536
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no longer special because anybody can do it. So now, like,
537
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my my hope is that like people will start to
538
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get so fucking over. It's it's also the Marvel movie
539
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comic book effect, where it's like every one of them
540
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is just a spectacle of just like colors. And when
541
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you're like on a roller coaster for like ten minutes
542
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straight and all you're doing is it's like up and
543
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down all around all this jazz, You're like you're gonna
544
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get bored and you're gonna be like, all right, take
545
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me off this ride. So yeah, my whole thing is
546
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Jenner a I is just going to destroy the idea
547
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of the spectacle. It's like you're it's gonna get watered down,
548
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it's gonna it's cheap.
549
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The thing that gets me as well is that there
550
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was something very emotional and.
551
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What's the way I'm looking for vulnerable about is it
552
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putting yourself into something I really don't think slop array
553
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to who type I.
554
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Spent all night craft McDonald's ad.
555
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You don't understand how hard it's like you just had
556
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ideas for what you wanted to make, but you didn't
557
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make it.
558
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That doesn't mean they're also equipped to make those ideas.
559
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Like that's like that's another thing where like anybody can
560
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make anything now, But that doesn't mean you're you should.
561
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That doesn't mean you're supposed to do the amount of
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AI commercials I see and across the.
563
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Board, Oh, the super Bowl is this weekend, they're gonna.
564
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Be but whether it's like there's like a progressive ad
565
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where it's like I saw it, and then there's like
566
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another ad I saw and like another ad all separate
567
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companies and they're like big AI, like look what we did.
568
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.480
They all just had animals driving cars. Yes, I saw
569
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the board. All of them had the same idea. Oh man,
570
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you know what we can't do easily, have animals drive cars.
571
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Guess what, motherfucker, you're not the only one to have
572
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.799
that idea, because that is the most low hanging fruit,
573
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Like what if we had animals do something? It's always
574
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kind of like my problem with animal detectives I want
575
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to make a detective, but I don't have the ability
576
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to make a creative range interesting with a normal human beings.
577
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:04.200
So I'll just put a hat on a dog. Oh, hey,
578
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a duck. Let's just have a duck go solve a crime.
579
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Quack the case. Anyways, To me, it's the same sort
580
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of like, all right, you made an animal talk congratulations.
581
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Wow, me.
582
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Can't believe the duck detective Eugene mcquachlin took so many
583
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strays there.
584
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That's how we're feeling about it.
585
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Let me let me just dial it back. I'm not
586
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saying that duck quack detective game you like, is some
587
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sort of It was made by a person and a thing.
588
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But I do think there's an alignment of my feeling
589
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of like people are just like, well, I guess we
590
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.920
gotta make this interesting, put an animal in it. Anyways,
591
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I'll kill you. Next letter, Next letter.
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The male.
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Hi, Gurt and Lucky Wait.
594
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Gerty're lucky you finally, Lucy? What does it feel like?
595
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.559
I get lucky a lot. Like my doctor emailed me
596
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.039
the other day and Lucky and they were like, hey,
597
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:10.519
cholesterol is too high, and I was like, I know,
598
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.880
how are you feeling lucky, I know, and then they've
599
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.119
immediately followed up with I'm sorry. I was like, it's fine, Hamps.
600
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.240
All time, there's been a very loud subset of especially
601
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:19.839
in New Vegas, fans, who have been critical of the
602
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:21.960
show for various reasons. Among them has been that the
603
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.880
show either make certain player choice things cannon or skirts
604
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around them.
605
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.519
Conceptually, this isn't anything. New game series that have a.
606
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Lot of player choice are often forced to pick cannon
607
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choices in sequels. Occasionally you get an interview where you
608
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.359
can pick your choices, but other times something just is.
609
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.920
In Kingdom Come Deliverance too, Henry just knows how to
610
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read whether you chose to learn that in the first
611
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game or not so in a world of extremes, which
612
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.079
is better make hard cannon choices in sequels, risking alienating
613
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.720
fans who do things differently, or do your very best
614
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to avoid any mention of anything that treads on player choice,
615
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making for clunky writing or glaring o missions.
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It's from Wax. Hey Wax, Thanks Wax.
617
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I think you answered your own question like the latter
618
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part of what you said like it's I think it's
619
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more sloppy and glaring to just kind of ignore the
620
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potential of a choice a player had made, while while
621
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frustrating that your experience may not align with what is
622
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canonically made. I think it you risk more alienation by
623
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just a studio being like, let's just let's just not
624
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.759
let's not just not acknowledge it. Let's not you know,
625
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maybe maybe like maybe we just won't have Henry even
626
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:34.799
look at a book, you know, and a kingdom come
627
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Deliverance too, so the player never picks up a book,
628
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and that would be more of a very like wait
629
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what yeh.
630
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Hm, I mean that's just trying to think if it
631
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:49.160
has ever really bothered me, I think I'm you know,
632
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even the first original ending in Mass Effect three didn't
633
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bother me.
634
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That's the big one.
635
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But that's you know, I mean the big one, three
636
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big ones.
637
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.599
Well, it looks like also for whatever new Mass Effect
638
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game they're making, is it Control and they're making destroy
639
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a Control canon.
640
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That's the thing you don't know, And that's actually the
641
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good question it is, because it's like whatever whatever they
642
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decide to canonize. Like as much as I did like Andromeda,
643
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:19.039
it was very clean by being like it takes place
644
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in a different Galaxy.
645
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.559
Yeah you had like a Liara but but but they
646
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but they.
647
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Intentionally didn't even know what happened. So it's like, you
648
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avoid the problem of canonizing mass.
649
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Effect, which I think is a smarter choice.
650
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But the new one is will have to directly canonize it,
651
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so you're gonna get people upset about like well, in
652
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.680
my mass Effect, I shot Rex in the face and
653
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you know or whatever, like like you, I don't know.
654
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.440
It's like the Life Estranged just had the same problem
655
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pop up, you know, with like how you how you? Uh.
656
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They tried to canonize both by but they didn't do
657
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it in a way where people felt satisfied with the
658
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way they played out that choice.
659
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.319
They didn't even ask Ashley Budge to come back.
660
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I did, and I don't. I don't like that.
661
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.200
Yeah, I mean, I guess my feeling is like it's
662
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It creates a dilemma for say, storytellers and writers in
663
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which say, Okay, I'm just gonna use Come Deliverance again
664
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as an example, because that's what we mentioned. Say the
665
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team and writers decided to make Kingdom Come Deliverance too,
666
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and if they wanted to just avoid any sort of
667
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.119
canonical issues, they would ensure and just make a new
668
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character and a new storyline, but at the at the
669
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at the same sort of loss of being like, well,
670
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other characters loved Henry we Well, that's.
671
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That's the That's the other thing was like everyone is
672
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too risk.
673
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.839
Averse, yes, and they're like, well, I'm attached to that person.
674
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I'm attached to this character with this idea of this person.
675
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When it comes to like stuff like Fallout, it's interesting
676
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because every single person, every single player, has their own
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their own story to tell, and in a way, I
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when I watched them, like the Fallout show, I'm like
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forgiving in the sense that I'm watching their story like
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they're like like like if I were to look at
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another player next to me, like Jean Lugan, I probably
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have two totally different stories. So therefore, when I watched
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the show, I'm watching another story. Does that change, like
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like my relationship with the experiences? I had, no because
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I still had my playthrough, I still had like my thing.
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It's the same thing with a comic book like Watchmen.
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When Watchmen changed the ending in the film versus the
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comic book extremely controversial for a lot of people. One
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of them is clearly a lot more interesting than the other. Yeah,
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one is a little bit more self contained, and I
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think the Watchman movie is great. I'm a huge fan
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of that movie. I also think the comic book's amazing,
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and I'm able to separate them and see them separately. However,
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than the HBO show took the canatical ending of the
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comic book and did something incredible with it.
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So yeah, yep, it follows the weird one because I
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think like the show. Sure, the show does like tries
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to avoid canonizing as much as it can from New Vegas,
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but inevitably, like does kind of has to to some degree.
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And I think it's like because I have weird feelings
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about it, where it's like, oh, I agree, it doesn't
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invalidate my feelings about that game or that experience, But
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I guess like in the sense that it's like, well,
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if the show is canon and future games decide to
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be set in that region and follow the canonization of
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the show, it could like invalidate certain elements or make
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changes that you don't agree with. So it's like I
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have mixed feelings about it, like sometimes because I there's
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a lot of decisions Bethesda makes about Fallout that I
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don't care for but but but like, well, because New
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Vegas was like a very direct sequel to two, you know,
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and it had to canonize things from ball Out one
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and two as well. So it's like, maybe there's a
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follow one fan who's like, I didn't like that they
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canonize this thing. So maybe, like I don't know, the
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further you get along, the less happy everyone will be.
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And I think you just sort of have to like
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learn to just I don't know, let it go you level,
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you have to enjoy your experience and maybe not get
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us too hung up on canon. It's kind of like
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it's a lesson you have to learn.
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I also don't think canon.
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Look at Star Wars, I don't feel like.
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But but I get why canon does matter. I get
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I think it can feel important, it can feel but
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I think at a certain point you have to learn to.
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Like not I was gonna say, I wish more games
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and more properties had the Zelder approach to things, which
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was the hey, here are the kind of tempoles and stuff.
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But things can happen in different order, and then you
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get people who different interpretations of.
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Well.
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I that's why I think one of the worst things
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that Ted ever did was acknowledged that there was that
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acknowledged that there's a timeline, because to me, I'm like, no,
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you like, let the fans have that but never acknowledge it. Yeah,
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it's called the Legend of Zelda because it's a it's
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a story. Yeah, that's passed down.
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Yeah, changed my personal feelings. It doesn't really bug me
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because I try to view every single sort of thing, movie, game, comic,
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even if it exists in the same world as like
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a self contained sort of thing. The only time that
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gets messy, like the only like I don't know, like
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the X Files books that I've read and the Next
745
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Files comics I've read, and the X Files TV show
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that I've seen, I don't view them in the same
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realm of thing.
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They're just to me, just I mean, even the show
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it straight up decides that one of the seasons isn't.
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Oh yeah yeah season ten? What so, like, you know,
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wait a minute, the smoking.
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Man that happened to him? What are you sure you
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remember that?
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Right?
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Okay, Okay, that's the show.
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That's it.
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Hey, you know what what that was an episode of
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Curt and Lucy Got you covered?
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What?
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What?
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Yeah? No? Wild?
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Huh, well, thank you so much for listening. Just a
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quick reminder, if you are interested in seeing anything with
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Suit of fifty one, you should go over to the
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game Spot YouTube channel because we did a bunch of
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stuff with the guy, including a draw off. I'm very
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excited about.
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Him, very excited I am.
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Anyways, one more little announcement. We are taking a couple
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of weeks off. But don't worry. Everything's fine. We're just
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going to be in Vegas.
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Yes.
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I like that We're both going to Vegas, but not together.
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And I don't actually think i'll see you. Yeah, no,
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you want because you get in on what Thursday night?
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Wednesday?
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Oh wait, okay, maybe I we'll see it.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, look, I only strut around old Vegas. No,
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I want to see the old Fremont Street experience.
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I'm going to be on the convention no Aria, Yeah, yeah.
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You're going for work, not guy. I'm gonna have I'm
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gonna be uh, I'm gonna have some sugarport all over me.
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Oh, you're gonna see death loveon.
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I wish you wouldn't give the context.
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I was sorry.
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I just gonna say I'm going to beg the sugarport
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at me.
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Anyways, We're taking a couple of weeks off, so uh,
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but we're not going anywhere. We're gonna come back on
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February twenty eighth to have a new episode, maybe even
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a little surprise the follows. Time will tell, but yes,
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I just want to say in the meantime, thank you,
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thank you, We appreciate you. Email us at Gotcha, cover
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the GameSpot dot com, and.
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Drink some water today.
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Touch your toes if you can. Bye Bye,