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My name is Abraham. Actually, the first thing I wanted
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to do when I grew up was to be a
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Power Ranger. So that dream is still alive.
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Yeah, it should be.
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It's still alive, you know, but actually a real Power Ranger.
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And then failing that, I said I want to be
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an actor.
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If anybody has the chance of becoming a Power Ranger
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even slightly, I think it would be you.
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Thank you. I appreciate that.
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So I'm guessing you were a fan of the show.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, when I was a baby, yeah,
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I was... I didn't understand what was going on. I
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just saw the flash and the breakdancing, the random breakdancing
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that would happen and those puddies and Rita, she was
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very scary. And then also, I always wonder, like, I
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don't know if you watch Power Rangers, but, like, you
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grow into Megazord and they're fighting whatever monster. They're just
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mashing up all the buildings. Like, all these... There's, like,
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hundreds of people, minimum, that die every episode. And no
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one's talking about this. Anyway.
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My favorite podcast is called How Did This Get Made?
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Okay.
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And they watch movies you love to hate. And a
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lot of them are, no Power Rangers, but like they
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talk so often about the number of civilian casualties that
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happen in like the Fast and the Furious movies.
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Yes. Yes. I've seen, I think I've seen this though.
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I think I've seen clips of this.
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Yes. Yes.
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And it's like no- horrific, tragic ways with nobody paying
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attention to it. It's just, oh, that happened. Yeah. So
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Power Rangers, I think. Power Rangers probably got a really
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big body count if you really think about it.
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That's a very deep thought to have as a child.
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Yeah. Yeah, I was very caring as a child. Very caring.
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But I still wanted to be a Power Ranger regardless.
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How did we get from that to where we are now?
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Us meeting on the Spider Noir red carpet.
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Oh, wow.
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Brief history.
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Alongside Power Rangers, something I'd watch all the time. So
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I had a Power Rangers VHS. You know what a
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VHS is, right?
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Yes. You're only two years older than me.
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First of all, how do you know my age? Second
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of all, keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself.
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So you know what a VHS is. For anybody that
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doesn't know, it's this little square thing that you put
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into a box and then you see some moving images.
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And so I had Power Rangers on VHS. I had...
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Toy Story on VHS, and I had The Mask, and
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I was obsessed with Jim Carrey's The Mask. That is
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my shit. I loved that movie so much. I would
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watch it over and over and over again, and I
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would copy him as somebody stabbed me. I'd run around
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the house, spinning around. I was just obsessed. I used
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to watch that movie only back to front, and family
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members remember me copying this movie, and so I think
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Before I was aware of it, there was something about
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this performing thing that I really enjoyed. And then I, yeah,
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I think I was like eight years old when I
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realized that there was a thing that I was good at.
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I was doing a school play in a playground and
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I was playing, I was cast as, I was in
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the Passion of Christ and I was cast as Jesus
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Christ himself.
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Whoa.
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Yeah. Thank you so much. And it's been downhill from there.
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I've not had a better role since. But something, clearly something,
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a teacher must have seen something in me. But that's
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when I became aware of, oh, this isn't just mucking
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around or playing around in my kitchen. This is actually
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a thing that people can do. And it took me
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until I was like nine or ten to realize, oh,
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those people on the kids' TV shows, they're doing this thing.
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This is a job you can do. And then I
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would go to like after school clubs and do school
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plays and something like a dream, like a real, like
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really a dream. So it probably was on the same
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level as me dreaming of me being a Power Ranger
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or me dreaming of being a footballer one day or
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a soccer player, as you guys call it. Being an
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athlete or it was like a dream, like a child,
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childlike dream. But then it started to solidify. around age
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12 to 13 when I went to like drama schools
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during the summer holidays when my mom could afford to
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take us there and then when I was 16 I
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went to what we call college I think what you
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guys call high school yeah I studied drama there for
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a couple of months before my mom told me I
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had to drop it and swap it for physics which
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was hell but then I was like okay I really
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like this thing I want to see if I can
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do this so it was just me kind of just
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figuring out where where can I do this thing and
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It wasn't until I was 22 that I eventually got
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into a big drama school. I went to the Royal
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Academy of Dramatic Art.
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And that was like... I'd gone to other drama schools
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in between and part-time schools whenever I could afford it.
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Maybe I'd go twice a week or on a weekend.
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But then going to RADA was just... It was like
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going to Disneyland for me. It was amazing. I got
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to just do the thing I love every day. I
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got to escape into this world. I'm around other actors who...
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are brilliant and unique and come from relatively diverse backgrounds,
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but they were still unique and individual in their own
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ways and had deep, deep, they were just as passionate
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as I was about what I wanted to do about
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this art. So yeah, it was like being in high
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school music or something. It was that level of glee
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and joy. That's how I felt anyway. And really passionate
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teachers and access to like the best training and resources
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and getting to go to see theater and having famous
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people come in and talk to us it was just
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three years of that so i was there with a
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couple of other really close classmates i guess of mine
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who we were there as soon as the school opened
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we were in there and we were there until the
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school closed we were just there all day all night
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just learning and soaking it all up and when i
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left that's when i got an agent and that's when
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my career.
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Started yeah everything you've been in has been pretty huge
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since the start yeah you.
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Know it's so funny i had a meeting earlier today
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and with some cast and directors and i i was
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forced to acknowledge you know i think i think most
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actors feel this i think even actors who you might
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see as a pinnacle they always wonder what the next
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thing is going to be and how they can continue
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to climb and never satisfied and i think it's sort
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of like a blessing and a curse in some ways
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but there are moments when you have to sit down
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and acknowledge like hey actually like if you spoke to
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the boy who was pretending to be Jim Carrey in
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the mask and said, hey, you're going to be in
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all of these things, I would have been like, you're
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kidding me, right? That's like amazing. So yeah, I'm very,
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very grateful. I'm so excited when I think about the
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things I've been able to be involved in. It really
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is a dream. Like really, really is a dream. And
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I've got to be involved in things that like I
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genuinely love, like I'm genuinely a fan of. I've been
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like ticking down a list of like, oh, I love that.
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I've been that. Well, I've worked with this person that
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was in my favorite film or whatever. Or even just,
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even getting to audition, you know, I was fortunate enough to, like,
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meet Christopher Nolan in the room last year for the Odyssey.
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I didn't get the part. The guy who did get
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the part is an incredible actor. But I got to
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meet Christopher Nolan. I got to audition in front of him.
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And that's, like, big tick. You know, he knows who
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I am, you know. And he didn't throw tomatoes at
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me when I went for him. So, yeah, it definitely has, like,
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been an incredible experience. journey that feels like it's still
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very much starting, but I have to acknowledge, as you said,
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like I've got to do enough really cool things so far.
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I read somewhere that you would use your lunch money
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to buy comic books.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So as someone who's been a fan for so long,
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do you get like, do you find yourself not butting heads,
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but like wanting to put in an opinion on something
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that since you're working on the things that you love
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being like, well, that's not how I pictured it.
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Thankfully not. All I care about is, is it a
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good story? Because for me, if I don't like the adaptation,
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I still have the thing, the original. So I can't
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be too mad, you know, but more than anything, I
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just get excited when I'm like, oh my God, I
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know what that is. Or I know who that really is.
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Or I know what that's a reference to. That feels
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really exciting. That feels like, so whenever, especially in things
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like comic book movies, whenever they've referenced anything or they let,
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that they are also fans. That's always like a gratifying moment.
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But ultimately, it's got to be new. It's got to
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do something new. There's not much use in just copying
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comic books straight to them. You've got to make it,
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why now? Why are we investing in this now? So
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I quite enjoy the differences that are made. The most
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important thing, is it a good story? Does it make sense?
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And sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.
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What would you say your superpower is?
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In real life, I think I'm learning that it's sensitivity.
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I think sensitivity, I think that's a superpower that we
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all have. And I'm learning how sensitive I am and
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how important that is. That is really important. And how,
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like in a lot of superhero stories, the power is
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something you have to learn to control. And I think
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for a long time I was unaware I had it.
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I'm unaware of all the ways in which I had
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to learn how to control it. And now that's something
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that at my tender age, which we're not going to disclose,
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I'm getting better at.
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I interviewed Michael Mando last week, who is the villain
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in the new Spider-Man movie. And he said something similar,
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but from the perspective of playing a villain and how
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that's still important as a villain so I just I
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find that like to be an and like a common
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answer is is like understand the understanding of people in
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general and having some sort of compassion yes because otherwise
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this is very black and.
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White Yeah, no, I think something that's been really cool
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about comic book movies, which really, they are the movies
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that have taken over, like, Westerns, you know, this thing of, like,
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good versus evil. And I think what's been really exciting
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about them is, like, I think as a society, we're
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evolving and we're understanding there's more nuance to good and evil.
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Who you think is good, maybe it was easy for
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them to be so good. And who you think is bad,
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maybe it was hard for them to be good when...
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understanding the gray area. And that's something that Spidey Noir
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did really well, I thought as well. But yeah, I
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think that's a great answer in regards to like, I
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think villains actually are the most sensitive people. They're super
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sensitive and they have no idea how to control how
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sensitive they are. So they do the things they do
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out of fear. I think actually they're incredibly fragile people.
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If people approach you, is there one franchise over the
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other that they mentioned?
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That's a good question. I can't say there is. Not yet, anyway.
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Although I've not been in the States since Spidey Noir
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came out. I've been in Europe. So maybe when I
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get back, I'll find out maybe Spidey Noir becomes the
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most noticeable thing. But people recognize me from Cruella. And yeah,
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just bits and bobs. And listen, it's still something that
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I'm not used to or never expect. I'm still in
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a space where it's surprising when someone is like, oh,
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you were in the thing? I was like, oh yeah,
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I was. That is me. Every actor, their ambition is, well,
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mine anyway, it's not necessarily to have fame, shall I say,
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but recognition. Recognition, you know what I'm saying? That's someone
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that when I see them, I know that I'm going
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to see a good performance and a good story and
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I'm going to feel something. So yeah, so far it's
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still dotted around, but it'll be interesting to see over
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the next few months whether or not something becomes more
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of a common denominator.
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Spider Noir was very popular here and someone actually brought
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it up organically. I was at the beach last weekend
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and they started talking about the show and how much
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they liked it.
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Okay, cool.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, actually.
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I look forward to receiving it.
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Yeah, just tell me when you're flying in and I'll
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make sure that everyone at.
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The airport is ready for you.
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Do you have a scene or a memory from Cruella
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and or like Spider Noir, the Marvels, anything where you
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wish that something had made it in that you later
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realized didn't make it in?
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Yeah, that's such a good question. The most recent one
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was in Spider Noir. There was a scene that my character,
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and Jack Houston's character, there was a really beautiful scene between,
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we got a couple more, we had some beautiful scenes
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that stayed in, but there was one particular, which is
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sort of the aftermath of when Lonnie's powers become visible.
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And there was a really sweet scene where Lonnie realizes
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that Flint is gonna go back for the woman he loves,
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and he sort of gives Flint his blessing. That was
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a really cool scene that didn't make it in. But honestly, every, every,
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thing you do, there's always something that doesn't quite make
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it in. There's always something that is lost. It's just
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part and parcel of the process, I think. That's definitely
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one I can remember off the top of my head.
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But honestly, every job I'm on, I'm always like, oh no,
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that scene is gone. That's been cut too early or
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whatever it is. But you understand that's the name of
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the game. You've got to keep things trim and you've
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got to trust the editors and the directors that they're
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doing the best job they can to keep the story moving.
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Have you ever been totally cut out?
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Yes. I won't say what it was, but yeah, there
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was a, there was a TV series for like a
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major streamer. And they brought me in for like the
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season finale, this big reveal. And it was like, yeah,
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the next season, it's all about you. Oh no. They
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did send me an email saying, Hey, sorry, it's not
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going to work out. I was like, you didn't have
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to say that. Thank you. I appreciate that. Cause I've
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heard that. horror stories about things like this before people
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turn up to.
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The premiere and they're like yes i.
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Thought i was in this movie so luckily i've not
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been cut out other than that that's not an experience
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i've had other than that.
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You should have been like it was the odyssey like
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i just i was the star but i didn't fit
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in the imax like i got i'm in the imax
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version i'm not in the i'm not in the regular
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exactly the regular Okay, that reminds me of that scene
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in Harry Potter, which I know we both are mega
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fans of, where Dudley says to Harry, like, I didn't
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think you were, like, shake hands and make up, and
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it got cut.
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I didn't know that.
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Wait, you didn't know this?
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No.
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Oh, my God.
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They, like, reconciled their differences? Yes. And it got cut?
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Yes.
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I love that. I love that they got cut.
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Yeah, they're leaving. The Dursleys are leaving in the second
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to last or the last movie. They're moving out of
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the house.
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Okay, yes.
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Dudley comes up to Harry and is like, just so
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you know, I never thought you were a waste of space.
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And they shake hands. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's like, see you later, Big D.
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Oh, I like that it was cut. Okay. I like
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that it was cut. I don't want to, I don't want,
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in the movies. Who done these in the movies? I
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don't want to, I don't want to. We're not friends.
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We're not homies.
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No.
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You treat me like shit my entire life. Okay. I
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would not believe that moment. I would just be like, yeah,
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fuck off. You know what I'm saying? So I agree
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with that. Sometimes you got to trust these editors. They
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know what they're doing. They know why they're cutting things sometimes.
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I'm currently rereading one of the Harry Potters with my girlfriend.
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So I may get to the last book and be like, oh,
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that's a nice moment. Maybe.
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Yeah, I am. Well, I'm rereading and I'm listening to
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the audio books. And I saw that when I get to,
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what is the fifth one? You're going to be in it?
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Yeah. Yeah, I am. We're so excited. I know. Amazing.
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How did that happen?
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I just got an email from my voice agent saying, hey,
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do you want to do this? But here's the thing.
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Here's the sad thing. The great thing about it is
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that I got his email. Do you want to play
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Kingsley Shuckleball? Amazing. The sad thing is that I didn't realize...
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I didn't realize it was my voice agents initially. So
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I thought, what? But I was like, I was like,
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it's happening. It's happening. But I was like, wait, he's
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not in it for a while. And then I read
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it properly. I was like, oh, okay. I see what's
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happening there.
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You never know.
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You never know. You never know. This does not hurt
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my chances. It was an amazing experience. It was so
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much fun. I felt very honored to be part of that.
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And it's such an incredible cast across the board and
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to get to play, I mean, every character, all the
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characters are iconic, but like to play like, like maybe
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one of two or three black characters in the books,
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you know what I'm saying?
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It's also fabulous. Like, is that line from the movie
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in the book, the Dumbledore's got style or is that
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just in the movie?
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That's a great question.
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When he does the thing.
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Yes.
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And then he's like, you gotta admit.
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I feel like I want to say, I feel like
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I want to say, I feel like I want to
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say it's in a book, but I can't say that
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publicly a hundred percent. But did I read that? I
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can't say, I don't know. Let me look it up.
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Please, please look it up.
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Yes. Yeah. I can't remember if I said that or not.
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What an amazing line.
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So funny. It is in the book.
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Yes. So yeah, you're going to hear me say it.
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I just got two book or book and a half
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to go.
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Amazing. Yeah. Such a cool character. Such a cool character. Yeah.
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When you found out that you were going to be
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acting with Mad-Eye Moody in Spider Noir, what was that like?
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Yeah. I'm not over it. I'm not over it. I'm
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starting to process it. for so many reasons. I think
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on the Harry Potter part, I think that's probably the
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part that's least processed is that I got to work
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with Moody. But just an incredible actor, man. And a
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very generous soul who loves what he does. He's been
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doing it for so long at such a high level.
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And I just got to, I mean, there were so
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many amazing things about that job, but one of the
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best things was getting to watch these masters do their thing.
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And it really was like such an education, um, both
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on and off the screen, I think, watching someone like him,
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and all of them were like, Ramon was like that,
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Nicolas Cage was like that, Lee Jun Lee was like that,
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Jack Houston, all of them, I look up to all
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of them and I thought to myself, wow, like the
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way they carried themselves and how they approached their work.
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But yeah, Brendan specifically, getting to see him do his
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thing and how he would just like slip into this
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character so playfully, but also how his mind works. And
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I remember there was one scene particularly where it was
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a bit of a tricky scene or there was something
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I was trying to figure out emotionally. I was trying
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to figure it out and he saw me quietly figuring
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it out. And then he came to me quietly and said,
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what about this? And I was like, yeah, that. He
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notices everything. That's the other thing. He sees everything. I
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think he really doesn't have that magic eye. He sees everything.
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There was another time which I'll never forget. I think
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it was my last shooting day with him. And it
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was a big scene where, big scene, a lot of characters,
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I think this is like episode six maybe. And Lonnie
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in the scene maybe has one line, but it's quite
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a long scene, but he's in it. And I was
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just doing my thing. And sometimes in those scenes, especially
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big scenes, you don't necessarily know where the cameras are.
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You don't know if what you're doing is getting picked up,
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but you're doing it anyway. And did the thing and
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I'm going back to the trailer to get changed before
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I go home. And I see him and I tell him,
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thank you for everything. You know, it was such a
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good job. And he told me like, he saw what
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I was doing. You know, he saw what I was
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doing and he thought it was amazing. What I was
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doing was so, it was all internal. It was just
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thinking as the character and trying to be disciplined, you know,
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staying in the moment. And for him to pick that
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up on, pick up from it was just, it was just, yeah,
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I'll never forget that. Yeah.
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I need to go back and, I need to go
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back and look for it now.
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Yeah. Yeah. It was cool.
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I do feel like when you have, maybe it's just,
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it might, this might just be Harry Potter specific for me.
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I haven't tested it with anything else, but like, I'll
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go see Dan Radcliffe on Broadway, like in whatever he's in.
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And I would say 50% of the time, my brain
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is trying to wrap its mind around like all that
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he's done. And I've seen like, cause it's so, it's
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like such an emotional experience. Attachment that I feel like,
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I mean, he's done a fantastic job of being Daniel Radcliffe,
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the actor, and not just Harry Potter. But I do
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feel like sometimes when you have such a close tie
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to someone as something, it's like, even if I suddenly
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became friends with him and 10 years later we were
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having dinner, I'd still be like, I can't not see you.
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As this person. Yeah. Because what they've done, the art
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that they've produced or shared with you has connected with
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a part of you that is kind of frozen in time.
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So as long as that part of you exists, you're
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always going to have that association. And I'll have it
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with people who I've worked with, and then I see
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something that they've done after. So I recently watched Fargo
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season four. Ah, yeah. And I love Fargo. I hadn't
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got around to watching Fargo. season four and I kind
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of I love the show because you can kind of
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watch any season and then I'm watching season five and
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that was that blew me away I was like okay
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let me go watch season four and I saw what
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Lamorne was doing and I was just like this is
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insane and then also sorry Lamorne in season five and
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then also Jack Houston in season four and I'm just
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like and also Jack is so brilliant because he's in
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Fargo season four Boardwalk Empire which again means so much
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to me and in Spidey and the Wire he's playing
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sort of these East Coast complex characters from a certain
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time period. And every single one of them is so different.
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They're so different. It's like mind blowing how he does it.
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When you see him, it's like, he's just so, he's
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just so light and easy. You never see him like
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doing this. He just comes out and he does the thing.
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So yeah, after the fact, I also get the feeling
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of like, I know I met you before I saw
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this performance, but now I've seen it and I can't
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do it. Yeah. I can't unsee it. Yeah.
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That's so interesting. I've never really, I mean, yeah, I've
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never really thought of that before. Do you, do you
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reach out to them and say like, oh my gosh,
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I just watched.
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Always. Always. I mean, that's a dream. I mean, I
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do like to tell people how they made me feel,
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especially if they've been vulnerable enough to like present their art,
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which is always a scary thing no matter how long
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you've done it for. So If ever I have opportunity
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to meet someone whose art has impacted me, I will
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tell them because I feel like it's a great privilege.
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So yeah, when I was watching Fog, I was texting
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00:24:01.849 --> 00:24:04.769
them more like, oh my God, this is crazy. You know, no,
486
00:24:04.789 --> 00:24:06.569
I love being able to tell them. And again, then
487
00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:08.069
when you get to work with some of your heroes,
488
00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:11.470
it's like, I have to tell them. Sometimes it takes
489
00:24:11.509 --> 00:24:15.059
a while to pluck up the courage. I recently worked
490
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.839
at Keanu Reeves. The Matrix is my favorite movie. I've
491
00:24:18.859 --> 00:24:21.329
watched it more times than any other movie. And I
492
00:24:21.349 --> 00:24:25.759
just did this film with him called Shiver. And the
493
00:24:25.990 --> 00:24:28.480
other lead in the movie is an amazing actress called
494
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:32.319
Callie Cook. And I was telling Callie, like, he means
495
00:24:32.339 --> 00:24:33.559
so much to me. I need to tell him, but
496
00:24:33.579 --> 00:24:38.140
I'm scared. I don't want to overwhelm him because I'm
497
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.470
either going to, I either don't say anything or I'm
498
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telling him everything.
499
00:24:42.710 --> 00:24:43.910
Yeah.
500
00:24:44.509 --> 00:24:46.509
So he was just like, she was like, don't worry. Like,
501
00:24:46.650 --> 00:24:48.289
he wants something. Like, he's nice. He'll take it. And
502
00:24:48.309 --> 00:24:51.579
I was like, no, but. I'm going to look crazy
503
00:24:51.779 --> 00:24:54.109
if I really say how I really feel. And then
504
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:55.910
we were shooting a scene together one day and I
505
00:24:55.950 --> 00:24:58.269
was just like, this day is too perfect, I've got
506
00:24:58.289 --> 00:25:01.990
to tell him. And it took me about nine weeks
507
00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:05.849
to tell him, you know, like, yo, this is what
508
00:25:05.869 --> 00:25:07.890
you mean to me and this is the point in
509
00:25:07.930 --> 00:25:10.890
my life where this came and how this movie changed.
510
00:25:10.990 --> 00:25:12.769
It's deep when you get to work with actors or
511
00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:16.039
meet people who like, they are like, touches you, it
512
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.299
goes into you in some sort, in some way, shape
513
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.809
or form. So, yeah. But I do try. It just
514
00:25:21.849 --> 00:25:22.809
might take a while sometimes.
515
00:25:23.109 --> 00:25:26.930
There are certain people where... There's a handful. I think
516
00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:32.650
of Conan O'Brien. And it's like there's not... Sometimes I
517
00:25:32.670 --> 00:25:36.039
just feel like there's nothing I can say. Putting words
518
00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.819
to it almost feels like I'm doing an injustice to
519
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.740
the feeling. Because there's just... Or like if I met
520
00:25:42.819 --> 00:25:46.619
John Williams, I would just be like, I'd rather just
521
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.829
sit here and listen to you play the piano, then
522
00:25:49.890 --> 00:25:53.250
try to like, be like, because like you said, it's
523
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going to be, and I don't have nine weeks. I don't.
524
00:26:00.109 --> 00:26:01.539
That's how I felt. Well, do you know what? I'm
525
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.440
so glad you said that. I feel, I feel seen.
526
00:26:03.460 --> 00:26:05.720
That's what the feeling is. I don't have the words.
527
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.880
And then also it's like, what am I going to say?
528
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.019
Like a hundred thousand people haven't already said to you.
529
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:10.940
Yeah. Yeah.
530
00:26:11.619 --> 00:26:15.339
But I realized the point is actually, it is still different.
531
00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:19.299
And I, I had the, the luxury of having enough
532
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:23.680
time to tell him the story, the context.
533
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:25.019
You did the classy route.
534
00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:28.049
Wow. Wow. I'm glad it was classy.
535
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.569
Thank you for saying that. That is because you've shown
536
00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:37.730
that you're like, I'm a hardworking, capable person. And I waited.
537
00:26:39.309 --> 00:26:41.670
You didn't shake his hand the first time and been like,
538
00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:44.210
Oh my gosh, because then that's all he's going to
539
00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:47.769
think about when you guys are working.
540
00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:51.430
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. No, it didn't feel
541
00:26:51.470 --> 00:26:53.890
that way. It still felt incredibly vulnerable and terrifying. But
542
00:26:54.329 --> 00:26:57.589
to be honest, Keanu's amazing and he would have been
543
00:26:57.650 --> 00:27:00.769
open from week one. It would have been fine. But yeah,
544
00:27:00.869 --> 00:27:03.789
it's cool. That's another gift that this career has given me.
545
00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:06.210
It's been able to meet people who mean something to
546
00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:07.630
me and get to share that to them. And it's
547
00:27:07.670 --> 00:27:08.630
always received with such love.
548
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.299
One thing I do is I always have the previous
549
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:26.480
guest ask the next guest, i.e. you, a question. And
550
00:27:26.660 --> 00:27:30.940
I interviewed, yesterday I interviewed Seth Green, who is the
551
00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:37.339
voice of, yeah, Chris Griffin and created Robot Chicken. He
552
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.779
wanted to ask you a very specific question.
553
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:42.000
Oh, wow. Okay.
554
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:51.599
So Seth is 5'4. you're what six six five six
555
00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:55.819
five okay so he was like Seth was saying he's
556
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:01.240
particularly a particularly small guy you're a particularly tall guy
557
00:28:01.259 --> 00:28:06.099
Seth has to get his clothes like when he buys
558
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.029
clothes he like buys a million of one thing because
559
00:28:09.069 --> 00:28:11.529
it's so hard for him to find things he's wondering
560
00:28:11.609 --> 00:28:14.650
if you have the same challenge Yes.
561
00:28:15.130 --> 00:28:23.569
Yes, Seth, I do. Being this tall and dashing is expensive.
562
00:28:24.430 --> 00:28:27.299
It's very expensive. It is really expensive. I'm about to
563
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.160
fly back to LA and I can't fly normal. I
564
00:28:31.180 --> 00:28:34.500
have to pay. I have to pay. I can't sit
565
00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:39.349
in the normal seats. I have to beg and hope
566
00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:42.549
that there's an aisle seat available. If not, I got
567
00:28:42.569 --> 00:28:44.839
to pay way more money. When I get on that
568
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.160
plane and I walk through the flipping cabin and I
569
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.900
see the people in the aisle seat are all Seth
570
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.769
Green's height, it does not feel good. It doesn't feel good.
571
00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:57.450
I'm like, you don't need this space. But yeah, if
572
00:28:57.509 --> 00:29:00.289
I do find a place that, oh, this is a
573
00:29:00.309 --> 00:29:03.849
good fit of jean. If we sat next to each other,
574
00:29:04.190 --> 00:29:05.849
we'd probably be the same height. But when I stand up,
575
00:29:05.869 --> 00:29:08.890
that's when you feel it. But yeah, if I see
576
00:29:08.910 --> 00:29:11.680
something that fits well, I probably will buy multiples of that.
577
00:29:12.099 --> 00:29:14.400
I do a lot of... I can't remember the last
578
00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:18.680
time I shopped in a real life store. Often I'm
579
00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:23.700
doing online or I'll go to like a flea market
580
00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:26.940
where the vendors have made the clothes themselves. And sometimes
581
00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:29.140
you get a bit more luck in that regard. The
582
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.369
dream is to like be able to do more stuff
583
00:29:32.390 --> 00:29:35.349
where like I'm designing the clothes and have someone that
584
00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:37.809
makes them for me. That's the dream. That's the dream
585
00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:41.809
because I'm very particular about what I wear and I
586
00:29:41.849 --> 00:29:43.890
get bored a lot as well. So I have ideas
587
00:29:43.930 --> 00:29:46.210
in my head. I'm like, ah, I'll see some really
588
00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:48.690
cool stuff, some really fly stuff, but I don't have
589
00:29:48.730 --> 00:29:50.730
it in my size. So I want to be able
590
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.930
to have my own, I guess, clothing brand, is that
591
00:29:53.950 --> 00:29:57.180
what I'm saying? I'm launching it right here for people
592
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.869
of my stature so we can be high, And fly.
593
00:30:01.309 --> 00:30:02.910
That's what it's called. High and fly.
594
00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:09.509
That could also be like the name of like a
595
00:30:09.970 --> 00:30:11.450
yummy cannabis brand.
596
00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:14.839
Oh, wow. Let's talk after. Let's talk after. Yes. Yes.
597
00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:17.960
Listen, I'm always looking for more works.
598
00:30:20.779 --> 00:30:22.420
Yes. I like that. I like that. Yes.
599
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.299
You do have a great sense of style.
600
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:26.980
Thank you so much.
601
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:28.440
Has that always been the case?
602
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:37.039
You know, I probably thought so, but looking back, there
603
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.319
was always an attempt. There was always an attempt. There
604
00:30:40.339 --> 00:30:41.740
was always an attempt. But no, I love it. I
605
00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:44.049
think my mom's a very stylish person. And you see
606
00:30:44.170 --> 00:30:46.289
old baby pictures of me, I'm always looking fly as fuck.
607
00:30:46.349 --> 00:30:48.609
So it's kind of like, it's one of those things
608
00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.309
where I'm like, I've inherited this thing for better or worse.
609
00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:54.069
I'm very particular about what I wear. Makes me feel good.
610
00:30:54.849 --> 00:30:57.170
What ring do you have on? What animal is that?
611
00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:01.349
This is, I think it's a tiger. Nice.
612
00:31:01.369 --> 00:31:03.210
You know what it.
613
00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:05.710
Reminds me of? It reminds me of one of my
614
00:31:05.750 --> 00:31:08.039
favorite Disney movies ever. Do you know which one I'm
615
00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:09.539
talking about?
616
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:10.700
There's so many of them.
617
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.900
Aladdin. Yes. You know, in the Cave of Wonders.
618
00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:18.059
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
619
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.200
The tiger comes out of the sand. Yeah, that's what
620
00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:21.980
this reminds me of.
621
00:31:22.869 --> 00:31:25.950
Wait, next time you're in New York, let's go see
622
00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:30.210
Aladdin on Broadway because my friend is in it. And
623
00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:33.410
then you can like, he'll take us backstage and stuff.
624
00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:40.519
Dream. I'm there. I love it. I'm there. 100%.
625
00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:44.180
If you have a question for my next guest.
626
00:31:45.099 --> 00:31:47.440
Yes. I got one.
627
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:48.589
What is it?
628
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:56.779
Next guest. What is your most favorite or most dear
629
00:31:57.019 --> 00:31:59.460
memory or experience with water?
630
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.859
Oh, hopefully it's nothing creepy.
631
00:32:06.339 --> 00:32:07.380
Well, it depends who your guest is.
632
00:32:11.789 --> 00:32:18.750
It's Eli Roth. No, yeah. That's a great question. What's yours?
633
00:32:18.769 --> 00:32:23.420
A few years ago, I went out. on a boat
634
00:32:23.500 --> 00:32:26.420
with some friends and there was an incident, you know,
635
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.680
nearly lost my life. You know, let's not talk about
636
00:32:28.779 --> 00:32:31.200
tea much. But the next day I was like, ooh,
637
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.410
I'm traumatized with this water situation. And I was sitting
638
00:32:35.450 --> 00:32:39.970
by the beach thinking, I can't leave this beach without
639
00:32:40.329 --> 00:32:42.549
jumping back into the ocean. Otherwise the fear is going
640
00:32:42.569 --> 00:32:44.750
to be with me the whole time. And it took
641
00:32:44.769 --> 00:32:47.059
me a few hours, but I eventually jumped into the water.
642
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.460
I said, fuck it, I'm going to do it. If
643
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.079
I die, I die. And it was fine. I was fine.
644
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.740
And I felt like all the fear leave my body
645
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.160
and I saw the ocean and out to the horizon.
646
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.140
And I was like, I'm proud of myself that I
647
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.079
did this. And that's my most, that's my favorite experience
648
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:00.440
of water.
649
00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:01.940
That's so lovely.
650
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:03.680
Yeah, it was cool.
651
00:33:03.809 --> 00:33:05.970
Okay, good. I'm excited to ask this.
652
00:33:06.609 --> 00:33:09.750
Yes, yeah, I'm excited to hear the answer.
653
00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:13.609
So do you consider yourself to have made it?
654
00:33:13.609 --> 00:33:18.109
I have to say yes. I have to say yes.
655
00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:20.250
I think we have to say yes. I wake up
656
00:33:20.289 --> 00:33:22.950
every day and I get to do, my life is
657
00:33:22.990 --> 00:33:26.190
in the pursuit of my art. I've been doing this
658
00:33:27.410 --> 00:33:30.569
for a while now. And I think that it's a
659
00:33:30.589 --> 00:33:32.119
question that some of my friends and I always have
660
00:33:32.130 --> 00:33:34.559
to remind ourselves of, of like, when are we going
661
00:33:34.579 --> 00:33:36.660
to feel like we made it? You know, when is that?
662
00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:39.839
And are we depriving ourselves of acknowledgement of something that
663
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.559
we've done that can't be taken away from us? And
664
00:33:42.579 --> 00:33:45.140
I'm not talking about achievements or like whether your career maintains,
665
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.640
but the fact is, Were you able to have a
666
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.259
dream in your head and realize that dream in some way,
667
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.839
shape or form? And the answer is yes. So yes,
668
00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.940
I have to say that. I've made it, but I
669
00:33:55.940 --> 00:33:58.730
want to keep making it. I want to keep making it.
670
00:33:58.750 --> 00:33:59.910
I want to make it some more. The goalposts can move.
671
00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:01.210
Yeah, yeah.
672
00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:03.269
I want to keep making it some more. But, you know,
673
00:34:03.309 --> 00:34:06.390
I'm here talking to you. We met under the circumstances
674
00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:10.469
that we met in. And if someone in the same
675
00:34:10.510 --> 00:34:12.489
situation said that they didn't make it, I'd say, what
676
00:34:12.510 --> 00:34:15.150
are you talking about? So I think I have to
677
00:34:15.190 --> 00:34:16.449
say I've made it.
678
00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:23.820
If your career was a book and this current period
679
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.199
was a chapter, what would that chapter title be?
680
00:34:28.219 --> 00:34:39.510
It would be called The Exposure of Desire.
681
00:34:40.949 --> 00:34:41.710
Tell me more.
682
00:34:41.789 --> 00:34:46.389
The Exposure of Desire. It's a period when I'm allowing myself...
683
00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:50.619
to hear more of what I desire and to be
684
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.940
able to speak out loud the things I really, really want.
685
00:34:53.900 --> 00:34:56.159
Even the things that are deep, deep down inside. Things
686
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.559
that maybe I'm too scared to admit to myself that
687
00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:01.300
I want this thing. Maybe it feels too far away
688
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.559
or it feels too big or feels too grand. And
689
00:35:05.099 --> 00:35:07.679
just allowing that desire to be exposed has been like
690
00:35:07.739 --> 00:35:13.440
a really fun exercise that I've been practicing. Because once
691
00:35:13.500 --> 00:35:16.070
I hear the desire, I'm like, oh wow, like, Why
692
00:35:16.090 --> 00:35:18.469
was I afraid to admit this to myself? Or how
693
00:35:18.510 --> 00:35:20.869
far away is that really? Or do I really feel
694
00:35:20.889 --> 00:35:24.230
like I deserve this? And it's been, yeah, a really
695
00:35:24.269 --> 00:35:27.510
great journey to like confront that part of myself, celebrate
696
00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:30.789
that part of myself, to flex that muscle. Because I
697
00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:33.130
think all of us, this desire, desire is like the
698
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:36.110
fuel that moves the vehicle. I think I had a
699
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.539
period recently where I've reconnected with that part of myself,
700
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.329
like you said, because I have made it. but I
701
00:35:43.349 --> 00:35:45.590
want to make it more. And it's like align myself
702
00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:48.349
to feel comfortable saying, yeah, I want more. I'm feeling
703
00:35:48.369 --> 00:35:50.550
good about that. So I'd say, yeah, that'd be a
704
00:35:50.570 --> 00:35:51.130
cool chapter.
705
00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:58.739
My final question is what questions do you, I could
706
00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:00.780
ask this one of two ways. I could say, what
707
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.679
are your least favorite questions to be asked during press?
708
00:36:04.099 --> 00:36:06.659
Or I could say, what are your favorite questions to
709
00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:10.820
be asked during press? So depending on like how negative
710
00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:15.119
I want to be, So feel free to take that
711
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.260
from either angle.
712
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.079
I think I'm still in a space. I'm like, you
713
00:36:19.099 --> 00:36:22.199
want to ask me questions? That's cool. You want to
714
00:36:22.219 --> 00:36:25.780
hear me speak? Cool. If it's a bad question, I
715
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.280
still get to speak. I would say my favorite questions
716
00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:30.139
are always ones that, I mean, you ask great questions.
717
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.849
I mean, it's questions that are surprising that kind of
718
00:36:32.869 --> 00:36:35.469
make you think about things from another, a different perspective.
719
00:36:35.730 --> 00:36:40.949
And whatever will allow, we're asking questions that, hopefully for
720
00:36:40.969 --> 00:36:43.250
an audience that are going to consume and receive the
721
00:36:43.329 --> 00:36:45.730
answers and you want to give them things they've never
722
00:36:45.769 --> 00:36:47.889
heard before or things that they relate to in a
723
00:36:47.929 --> 00:36:51.590
different way so i always appreciate people as talented as
724
00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:53.969
yourself who are able to like ask certain questions which
725
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reveal and are surprising even to the person who's being
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asked so that is always great maybe my favorite sort
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of questions are questions that allow me to remember like
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how lucky i am when how amazing it is to
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be here, like what a dream this is and anything
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that makes me remember and have to like relate to
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where I was and to where I am now. And
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anything weird, any weird questions, I like a weird question.
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Those are cool too.
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I was doing this bit. I don't think it was
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very funny to the people I was with, but I
736
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was like drinking this drink that they had put like
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so much whipped cream on top of. And there was
738
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no way to drink this drink without just getting covered
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in whipped cream. It was like, it was, it was
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in consumable, unconscious. It was anyway. So I was doing
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this bit where like, I'd take a sip and just
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be covered in whipped cream and then ask them like
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what their least favorite way to die would be. Um,
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so I love a weird question.
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Yes. That's my type of time.
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I don't think it, I don't know if it was
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going over the way that I thought it was going to,
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but I love a weird, I love a weird question.
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I'll, Humans are weird. Humans are weird. Humans are very strange.
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And it's very strange that we pretend that we're not strange.
751
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That's the strangest part of all. So sometimes we can
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just cut to the chase. Ask me a weird question.
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Let's get into it. Gosh.
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What is a... Let me try and end on a
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weird question.
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Oh my God, yes.
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I feel like it's got to be like a would
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you rather.
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I love a would you rather.
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But the ones I always think of are like very
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unpleasant things instead of like.
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Hit me. Hit me. Be yourself. Be yourself. Tell me.
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Ask me. I want to know. Yes. It's a safe space.
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Okay.
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Hold on.
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I think I've actually written some of these down.
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One second.
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Okay. Would you rather... Have teeth that were marshmallows? Or
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hair made of pasta?
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Do the marshmallows become, do they like get soggy? Do
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they eventually get like eaten? Or do they just stay marshmallows?
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I'm going to say that they stay marshmallows because that
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would fall apart very quickly.
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I think I'd rather have hair made of spaghetti. I
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think that's actually quite clutch. Because I could shave it.
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You could, yeah. I could shave it. You know, and
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then if I'm hungry, imagine that. I'll never starve. Oh, yeah.
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That's amazing.
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And also, I could do a lot of cool hairstyles
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with spaghetti here. I think I could do a lot
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of cool hairstyles with spaghetti here. Be a bit of
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an issue when it's hot and it's humid. That might
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be a difficult thing, but other than that, I think
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I could make it work.
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Do you guys have Play-Doh there? Do you know what
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Play-Doh is?
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Of course, absolutely, yes.
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Awesome Play-Doh. Did you ever have the barbershop one?
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No.
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So it's like a little person... shaped like a thumb
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with like holes in it with a face and you
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put the Play-Doh under it. And so when you push down,
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it would, the hair would come out of their head.
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Oh wow. I think I've seen this.
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You could like cut the hair and then.
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Oh my God.
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Spaghetti hair.
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Anyway. I need to get my hands on some Play-Doh.
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Life was, life was always better with some Play-Doh. Yeah.
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I mean, that's one thing about having nieces and nephews
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that like is helpful, except like, when you're with them,
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like you're back to the days of like, I want
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that color or like, I'm going to stick this in
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my mouth or my nose or maybe like an adult
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Play-Doh get together.
806
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An adult Play-Doh get together. Okay. This is another business venture.
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We're going to be rich. Yes. I like this.
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For tall men.
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For tall men. For tall men. Exactly. All right.
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Well, This has been a successful interview.
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Yes, it is. Well done. You got through it.
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My name is Abraham. Actually, the first thing I wanted
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to do when I grew up was to be a
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Power Ranger. So that dream is still alive.
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Yeah, it should be.
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It's still alive, you know, but actually a real Power Ranger.
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And then failing that, I said I want to be
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an actor.
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If anybody has the chance of becoming a Power Ranger
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even slightly, I think it would be you.
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Thank you. I appreciate that.
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So I'm guessing you were a fan of the show.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, when I was a baby, yeah,
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I was... I didn't understand what was going on. I
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just saw the flash and the breakdancing, the random breakdancing
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that would happen and those puddies and Rita, she was
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very scary. And then also, I always wonder, like, I
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don't know if you watch Power Rangers, but, like, you
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grow into Megazord and they're fighting whatever monster. They're just
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mashing up all the buildings. Like, all these... There's, like,
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hundreds of people, minimum, that die every episode. And no
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one's talking about this. Anyway.
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My favorite podcast is called How Did This Get Made?
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Okay.
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And they watch movies you love to hate. And a
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lot of them are, no Power Rangers, but like they
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talk so often about the number of civilian casualties that
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happen in like the Fast and the Furious movies.
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Yes. Yes. I've seen, I think I've seen this though.
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I think I've seen clips of this.
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Yes. Yes.
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And it's like no- horrific, tragic ways with nobody paying
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attention to it. It's just, oh, that happened. Yeah. So
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Power Rangers, I think. Power Rangers probably got a really
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big body count if you really think about it.
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That's a very deep thought to have as a child.
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Yeah. Yeah, I was very caring as a child. Very caring.
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But I still wanted to be a Power Ranger regardless.
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How did we get from that to where we are now?
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Us meeting on the Spider Noir red carpet.
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Oh, wow.
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Brief history.
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Alongside Power Rangers, something I'd watch all the time. So
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I had a Power Rangers VHS. You know what a
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VHS is, right?
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Yes. You're only two years older than me.
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First of all, how do you know my age? Second
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of all, keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself.
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So you know what a VHS is. For anybody that
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doesn't know, it's this little square thing that you put
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into a box and then you see some moving images.
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And so I had Power Rangers on VHS. I had...
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Toy Story on VHS, and I had The Mask, and
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I was obsessed with Jim Carrey's The Mask. That is
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my shit. I loved that movie so much. I would
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watch it over and over and over again, and I
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would copy him as somebody stabbed me. I'd run around
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the house, spinning around. I was just obsessed. I used
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to watch that movie only back to front, and family
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members remember me copying this movie, and so I think
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Before I was aware of it, there was something about
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this performing thing that I really enjoyed. And then I, yeah,
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I think I was like eight years old when I
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realized that there was a thing that I was good at.
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I was doing a school play in a playground and
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I was playing, I was cast as, I was in
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the Passion of Christ and I was cast as Jesus
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Christ himself.
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Whoa.
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Yeah. Thank you so much. And it's been downhill from there.
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I've not had a better role since. But something, clearly something,
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a teacher must have seen something in me. But that's
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when I became aware of, oh, this isn't just mucking
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around or playing around in my kitchen. This is actually
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a thing that people can do. And it took me
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until I was like nine or ten to realize, oh,
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those people on the kids' TV shows, they're doing this thing.
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This is a job you can do. And then I
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would go to like after school clubs and do school
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plays and something like a dream, like a real, like
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really a dream. So it probably was on the same
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level as me dreaming of me being a Power Ranger
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or me dreaming of being a footballer one day or
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a soccer player, as you guys call it. Being an
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athlete or it was like a dream, like a child,
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childlike dream. But then it started to solidify. around age
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12 to 13 when I went to like drama schools
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during the summer holidays when my mom could afford to
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take us there and then when I was 16 I
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went to what we call college I think what you
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guys call high school yeah I studied drama there for
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a couple of months before my mom told me I
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had to drop it and swap it for physics which
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was hell but then I was like okay I really
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like this thing I want to see if I can
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do this so it was just me kind of just
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figuring out where where can I do this thing and
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It wasn't until I was 22 that I eventually got
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into a big drama school. I went to the Royal
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Academy of Dramatic Art.
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Yeah.
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And that was like... I'd gone to other drama schools
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in between and part-time schools whenever I could afford it.
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Maybe I'd go twice a week or on a weekend.
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But then going to RADA was just... It was like
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going to Disneyland for me. It was amazing. I got
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to just do the thing I love every day. I
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got to escape into this world. I'm around other actors who...
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are brilliant and unique and come from relatively diverse backgrounds,
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but they were still unique and individual in their own
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ways and had deep, deep, they were just as passionate
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as I was about what I wanted to do about
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this art. So yeah, it was like being in high
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school music or something. It was that level of glee
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and joy. That's how I felt anyway. And really passionate
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teachers and access to like the best training and resources
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and getting to go to see theater and having famous
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people come in and talk to us it was just
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three years of that so i was there with a
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couple of other really close classmates i guess of mine
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who we were there as soon as the school opened
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we were in there and we were there until the
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school closed we were just there all day all night
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just learning and soaking it all up and when i
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left that's when i got an agent and that's when
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my career.
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Started yeah everything you've been in has been pretty huge
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since the start yeah you.
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Know it's so funny i had a meeting earlier today
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and with some cast and directors and i i was
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forced to acknowledge you know i think i think most
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actors feel this i think even actors who you might
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see as a pinnacle they always wonder what the next
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thing is going to be and how they can continue
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to climb and never satisfied and i think it's sort
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of like a blessing and a curse in some ways
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but there are moments when you have to sit down
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and acknowledge like hey actually like if you spoke to
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the boy who was pretending to be Jim Carrey in
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the mask and said, hey, you're going to be in
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all of these things, I would have been like, you're
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kidding me, right? That's like amazing. So yeah, I'm very,
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very grateful. I'm so excited when I think about the
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things I've been able to be involved in. It really
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is a dream. Like really, really is a dream. And
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I've got to be involved in things that like I
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genuinely love, like I'm genuinely a fan of. I've been
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like ticking down a list of like, oh, I love that.
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I've been that. Well, I've worked with this person that
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was in my favorite film or whatever. Or even just,
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even getting to audition, you know, I was fortunate enough to, like,
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meet Christopher Nolan in the room last year for the Odyssey.
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I didn't get the part. The guy who did get
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the part is an incredible actor. But I got to
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meet Christopher Nolan. I got to audition in front of him.
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And that's, like, big tick. You know, he knows who
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I am, you know. And he didn't throw tomatoes at
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me when I went for him. So, yeah, it definitely has, like,
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been an incredible experience. journey that feels like it's still
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very much starting, but I have to acknowledge, as you said,
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like I've got to do enough really cool things so far.
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I read somewhere that you would use your lunch money
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to buy comic books.
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do you get like, do you find yourself not butting heads,
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but like wanting to put in an opinion on something
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that since you're working on the things that you love
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being like, well, that's not how I pictured it.
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Thankfully not. All I care about is, is it a
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good story? Because for me, if I don't like the adaptation,
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I still have the thing, the original. So I can't
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be too mad, you know, but more than anything, I
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just get excited when I'm like, oh my God, I
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know what that is. Or I know who that really is.
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really exciting. That feels like, so whenever, especially in things
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like comic book movies, whenever they've referenced anything or they let,
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that they are also fans. That's always like a gratifying moment.
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do something new. There's not much use in just copying
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comic books straight to them. You've got to make it,
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why now? Why are we investing in this now? So
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important thing, is it a good story? Does it make sense?
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What would you say your superpower is?
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all have. And I'm learning how sensitive I am and
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how important that is. That is really important. And how,
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like in a lot of superhero stories, the power is
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something you have to learn to control. And I think
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for a long time I was unaware I had it.
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I'm unaware of all the ways in which I had
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to learn how to control it. And now that's something
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that at my tender age, which we're not going to disclose,
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in the new Spider-Man movie. And he said something similar,
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but from the perspective of playing a villain and how
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that's still important as a villain so I just I
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find that like to be an and like a common
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answer is is like understand the understanding of people in
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general and having some sort of compassion yes because otherwise
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this is very black and.
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White Yeah, no, I think something that's been really cool
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about comic book movies, which really, they are the movies
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that have taken over, like, Westerns, you know, this thing of, like,
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good versus evil. And I think what's been really exciting
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about them is, like, I think as a society, we're
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evolving and we're understanding there's more nuance to good and evil.
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Who you think is good, maybe it was easy for
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them to be so good. And who you think is bad,
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maybe it was hard for them to be good when...
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understanding the gray area. And that's something that Spidey Noir
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did really well, I thought as well. But yeah, I
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think that's a great answer in regards to like, I
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think villains actually are the most sensitive people. They're super
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sensitive and they have no idea how to control how
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sensitive they are. So they do the things they do
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out of fear. I think actually they're incredibly fragile people.
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If people approach you, is there one franchise over the
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other that they mentioned?
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That's a good question. I can't say there is. Not yet, anyway.
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came out. I've been in Europe. So maybe when I
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get back, I'll find out maybe Spidey Noir becomes the
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most noticeable thing. But people recognize me from Cruella. And yeah,
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just bits and bobs. And listen, it's still something that
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I'm not used to or never expect. I'm still in
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a space where it's surprising when someone is like, oh,
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you were in the thing? I was like, oh yeah,
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I was. That is me. Every actor, their ambition is, well,
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mine anyway, it's not necessarily to have fame, shall I say,
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but recognition. Recognition, you know what I'm saying? That's someone
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that when I see them, I know that I'm going
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to see a good performance and a good story and
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I'm going to feel something. So yeah, so far it's
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still dotted around, but it'll be interesting to see over
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the next few months whether or not something becomes more
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of a common denominator.
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Spider Noir was very popular here and someone actually brought
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it up organically. I was at the beach last weekend
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and they started talking about the show and how much
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they liked it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, actually.
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I look forward to receiving it.
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Yeah, just tell me when you're flying in and I'll
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make sure that everyone at.
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Do you have a scene or a memory from Cruella
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and or like Spider Noir, the Marvels, anything where you
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wish that something had made it in that you later
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realized didn't make it in?
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was in Spider Noir. There was a scene that my character,
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and Jack Houston's character, there was a really beautiful scene between,
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we got a couple more, we had some beautiful scenes
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that stayed in, but there was one particular, which is
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sort of the aftermath of when Lonnie's powers become visible.
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that Flint is gonna go back for the woman he loves,
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and he sort of gives Flint his blessing. That was
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a really cool scene that didn't make it in. But honestly, every, every,
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thing you do, there's always something that doesn't quite make
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it in. There's always something that is lost. It's just
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part and parcel of the process, I think. That's definitely
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one I can remember off the top of my head.
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But honestly, every job I'm on, I'm always like, oh no,
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that scene is gone. That's been cut too early or
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whatever it is. But you understand that's the name of
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the game. You've got to keep things trim and you've
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got to trust the editors and the directors that they're
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doing the best job they can to keep the story moving.
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Have you ever been totally cut out?
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was a, there was a TV series for like a
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major streamer. And they brought me in for like the
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season finale, this big reveal. And it was like, yeah,
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the next season, it's all about you. Oh no. They
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did send me an email saying, Hey, sorry, it's not
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going to work out. I was like, you didn't have
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to say that. Thank you. I appreciate that. Cause I've
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heard that. horror stories about things like this before people
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turn up to.
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The premiere and they're like yes i.
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been cut out other than that that's not an experience
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i've had other than that.
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You should have been like it was the odyssey like
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i just i was the star but i didn't fit
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in the imax like i got i'm in the imax
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version i'm not in the i'm not in the regular
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exactly the regular Okay, that reminds me of that scene
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in Harry Potter, which I know we both are mega
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fans of, where Dudley says to Harry, like, I didn't
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think you were, like, shake hands and make up, and
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it got cut.
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I didn't know that.
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Wait, you didn't know this?
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Oh, my God.
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They, like, reconciled their differences? Yes. And it got cut?
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I love that. I love that they got cut.
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Yeah, they're leaving. The Dursleys are leaving in the second
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to last or the last movie. They're moving out of
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the house.
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Dudley comes up to Harry and is like, just so
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you know, I never thought you were a waste of space.
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He's like, see you later, Big D.
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Oh, I like that it was cut. Okay. I like
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that it was cut. I don't want to, I don't want,
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in the movies. Who done these in the movies? I
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don't want to, I don't want to. We're not friends.
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We're not homies.
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You treat me like shit my entire life. Okay. I
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would not believe that moment. I would just be like, yeah,
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fuck off. You know what I'm saying? So I agree
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with that. Sometimes you got to trust these editors. They
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know what they're doing. They know why they're cutting things sometimes.
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I'm currently rereading one of the Harry Potters with my girlfriend.
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So I may get to the last book and be like, oh,
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that's a nice moment. Maybe.
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the audio books. And I saw that when I get to,
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what is the fifth one? You're going to be in it?
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Yeah. Yeah, I am. We're so excited. I know. Amazing.
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How did that happen?
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I just got an email from my voice agent saying, hey,
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do you want to do this? But here's the thing.
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Here's the sad thing. The great thing about it is
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that I got his email. Do you want to play
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Kingsley Shuckleball? Amazing. The sad thing is that I didn't realize...
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I didn't realize it was my voice agents initially. So
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I thought, what? But I was like, I was like,
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it's happening. It's happening. But I was like, wait, he's
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not in it for a while. And then I read
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it properly. I was like, oh, okay. I see what's
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happening there.
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You never know.
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You never know. You never know. This does not hurt
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my chances. It was an amazing experience. It was so
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much fun. I felt very honored to be part of that.
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And it's such an incredible cast across the board and
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to get to play, I mean, every character, all the
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characters are iconic, but like to play like, like maybe
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one of two or three black characters in the books,
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you know what I'm saying?
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It's also fabulous. Like, is that line from the movie
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in the book, the Dumbledore's got style or is that
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just in the movie?
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That's a great question.
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When he does the thing.
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And then he's like, you gotta admit.
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I feel like I want to say, I feel like
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I want to say, I feel like I want to
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say it's in a book, but I can't say that
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publicly a hundred percent. But did I read that? I
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can't say, I don't know. Let me look it up.
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Please, please look it up.
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Yes. Yeah. I can't remember if I said that or not.
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What an amazing line.
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So funny. It is in the book.
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Yes. So yeah, you're going to hear me say it.
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I just got two book or book and a half
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to go.
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Amazing. Yeah. Such a cool character. Such a cool character. Yeah.
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When you found out that you were going to be
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acting with Mad-Eye Moody in Spider Noir, what was that like?
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starting to process it. for so many reasons. I think
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on the Harry Potter part, I think that's probably the
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part that's least processed is that I got to work
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with Moody. But just an incredible actor, man. And a
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very generous soul who loves what he does. He's been
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doing it for so long at such a high level.
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And I just got to, I mean, there were so
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many amazing things about that job, but one of the
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best things was getting to watch these masters do their thing.
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on and off the screen, I think, watching someone like him,
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and all of them were like, Ramon was like that,
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Nicolas Cage was like that, Lee Jun Lee was like that,
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Jack Houston, all of them, I look up to all
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of them and I thought to myself, wow, like the
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way they carried themselves and how they approached their work.
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thing and how he would just like slip into this
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character so playfully, but also how his mind works. And
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I was trying to figure out emotionally. I was trying
401
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to figure it out and he saw me quietly figuring
402
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it out. And then he came to me quietly and said,
403
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what about this? And I was like, yeah, that. He
404
00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.400
notices everything. That's the other thing. He sees everything. I
405
00:20:04.420 --> 00:20:06.480
think he really doesn't have that magic eye. He sees everything.
406
00:20:07.779 --> 00:20:10.460
There was another time which I'll never forget. I think
407
00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:15.180
it was my last shooting day with him. And it
408
00:20:15.220 --> 00:20:19.259
was a big scene where, big scene, a lot of characters,
409
00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.940
I think this is like episode six maybe. And Lonnie
410
00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:26.539
in the scene maybe has one line, but it's quite
411
00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:28.420
a long scene, but he's in it. And I was
412
00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.480
just doing my thing. And sometimes in those scenes, especially
413
00:20:31.500 --> 00:20:33.380
big scenes, you don't necessarily know where the cameras are.
414
00:20:33.660 --> 00:20:35.450
You don't know if what you're doing is getting picked up,
415
00:20:35.509 --> 00:20:38.710
but you're doing it anyway. And did the thing and
416
00:20:38.730 --> 00:20:41.470
I'm going back to the trailer to get changed before
417
00:20:41.509 --> 00:20:44.470
I go home. And I see him and I tell him,
418
00:20:44.509 --> 00:20:45.829
thank you for everything. You know, it was such a
419
00:20:45.829 --> 00:20:47.690
good job. And he told me like, he saw what
420
00:20:47.710 --> 00:20:49.089
I was doing. You know, he saw what I was
421
00:20:49.130 --> 00:20:50.529
doing and he thought it was amazing. What I was
422
00:20:50.549 --> 00:20:53.650
doing was so, it was all internal. It was just
423
00:20:53.890 --> 00:20:57.019
thinking as the character and trying to be disciplined, you know,
424
00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:58.819
staying in the moment. And for him to pick that
425
00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.700
up on, pick up from it was just, it was just, yeah,
426
00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.039
I'll never forget that. Yeah.
427
00:21:03.180 --> 00:21:05.079
I need to go back and, I need to go
428
00:21:05.099 --> 00:21:06.900
back and look for it now.
429
00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:09.579
Yeah. Yeah. It was cool.
430
00:21:10.380 --> 00:21:13.180
I do feel like when you have, maybe it's just,
431
00:21:13.420 --> 00:21:17.369
it might, this might just be Harry Potter specific for me.
432
00:21:17.849 --> 00:21:20.390
I haven't tested it with anything else, but like, I'll
433
00:21:20.430 --> 00:21:24.190
go see Dan Radcliffe on Broadway, like in whatever he's in.
434
00:21:24.390 --> 00:21:27.829
And I would say 50% of the time, my brain
435
00:21:27.869 --> 00:21:31.950
is trying to wrap its mind around like all that
436
00:21:32.170 --> 00:21:34.289
he's done. And I've seen like, cause it's so, it's
437
00:21:34.309 --> 00:21:37.819
like such an emotional experience. Attachment that I feel like,
438
00:21:38.579 --> 00:21:43.740
I mean, he's done a fantastic job of being Daniel Radcliffe,
439
00:21:43.779 --> 00:21:46.930
the actor, and not just Harry Potter. But I do
440
00:21:47.009 --> 00:21:50.390
feel like sometimes when you have such a close tie
441
00:21:50.410 --> 00:21:55.309
to someone as something, it's like, even if I suddenly
442
00:21:55.349 --> 00:21:57.549
became friends with him and 10 years later we were
443
00:21:57.650 --> 00:22:01.819
having dinner, I'd still be like, I can't not see you.
444
00:22:01.690 --> 00:22:05.269
As this person. Yeah. Because what they've done, the art
445
00:22:05.309 --> 00:22:09.170
that they've produced or shared with you has connected with
446
00:22:09.230 --> 00:22:12.430
a part of you that is kind of frozen in time.
447
00:22:12.630 --> 00:22:14.799
So as long as that part of you exists, you're
448
00:22:14.819 --> 00:22:17.799
always going to have that association. And I'll have it
449
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:20.220
with people who I've worked with, and then I see
450
00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:23.480
something that they've done after. So I recently watched Fargo
451
00:22:23.740 --> 00:22:28.720
season four. Ah, yeah. And I love Fargo. I hadn't
452
00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:30.700
got around to watching Fargo. season four and I kind
453
00:22:30.740 --> 00:22:32.140
of I love the show because you can kind of
454
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:35.460
watch any season and then I'm watching season five and
455
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:36.779
that was that blew me away I was like okay
456
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:39.160
let me go watch season four and I saw what
457
00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.069
Lamorne was doing and I was just like this is
458
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insane and then also sorry Lamorne in season five and
459
00:22:46.069 --> 00:22:49.069
then also Jack Houston in season four and I'm just
460
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like and also Jack is so brilliant because he's in
461
00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:56.559
Fargo season four Boardwalk Empire which again means so much
462
00:22:56.579 --> 00:22:58.819
to me and in Spidey and the Wire he's playing
463
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:04.240
sort of these East Coast complex characters from a certain
464
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:08.319
time period. And every single one of them is so different.
465
00:23:08.789 --> 00:23:11.349
They're so different. It's like mind blowing how he does it.
466
00:23:11.670 --> 00:23:14.630
When you see him, it's like, he's just so, he's
467
00:23:14.650 --> 00:23:18.490
just so light and easy. You never see him like
468
00:23:18.990 --> 00:23:21.829
doing this. He just comes out and he does the thing.
469
00:23:22.170 --> 00:23:24.329
So yeah, after the fact, I also get the feeling
470
00:23:24.349 --> 00:23:26.079
of like, I know I met you before I saw
471
00:23:26.099 --> 00:23:27.559
this performance, but now I've seen it and I can't
472
00:23:27.619 --> 00:23:30.230
do it. Yeah. I can't unsee it. Yeah.
473
00:23:30.289 --> 00:23:34.789
That's so interesting. I've never really, I mean, yeah, I've
474
00:23:34.829 --> 00:23:37.759
never really thought of that before. Do you, do you
475
00:23:37.819 --> 00:23:39.940
reach out to them and say like, oh my gosh,
476
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I just watched.
477
00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:43.460
Always. Always. I mean, that's a dream. I mean, I
478
00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:45.720
do like to tell people how they made me feel,
479
00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:49.259
especially if they've been vulnerable enough to like present their art,
480
00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:51.720
which is always a scary thing no matter how long
481
00:23:51.740 --> 00:23:54.180
you've done it for. So If ever I have opportunity
482
00:23:54.220 --> 00:23:56.630
to meet someone whose art has impacted me, I will
483
00:23:56.650 --> 00:23:58.410
tell them because I feel like it's a great privilege.
484
00:23:58.470 --> 00:24:01.829
So yeah, when I was watching Fog, I was texting
485
00:24:01.849 --> 00:24:04.769
them more like, oh my God, this is crazy. You know, no,
486
00:24:04.789 --> 00:24:06.569
I love being able to tell them. And again, then
487
00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:08.069
when you get to work with some of your heroes,
488
00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:11.470
it's like, I have to tell them. Sometimes it takes
489
00:24:11.509 --> 00:24:15.059
a while to pluck up the courage. I recently worked
490
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.839
at Keanu Reeves. The Matrix is my favorite movie. I've
491
00:24:18.859 --> 00:24:21.329
watched it more times than any other movie. And I
492
00:24:21.349 --> 00:24:25.759
just did this film with him called Shiver. And the
493
00:24:25.990 --> 00:24:28.480
other lead in the movie is an amazing actress called
494
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:32.319
Callie Cook. And I was telling Callie, like, he means
495
00:24:32.339 --> 00:24:33.559
so much to me. I need to tell him, but
496
00:24:33.579 --> 00:24:38.140
I'm scared. I don't want to overwhelm him because I'm
497
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.470
either going to, I either don't say anything or I'm
498
00:24:41.509 --> 00:24:42.349
telling him everything.
499
00:24:42.710 --> 00:24:43.910
Yeah.
500
00:24:44.509 --> 00:24:46.509
So he was just like, she was like, don't worry. Like,
501
00:24:46.650 --> 00:24:48.289
he wants something. Like, he's nice. He'll take it. And
502
00:24:48.309 --> 00:24:51.579
I was like, no, but. I'm going to look crazy
503
00:24:51.779 --> 00:24:54.109
if I really say how I really feel. And then
504
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:55.910
we were shooting a scene together one day and I
505
00:24:55.950 --> 00:24:58.269
was just like, this day is too perfect, I've got
506
00:24:58.289 --> 00:25:01.990
to tell him. And it took me about nine weeks
507
00:25:03.170 --> 00:25:05.849
to tell him, you know, like, yo, this is what
508
00:25:05.869 --> 00:25:07.890
you mean to me and this is the point in
509
00:25:07.930 --> 00:25:10.890
my life where this came and how this movie changed.
510
00:25:10.990 --> 00:25:12.769
It's deep when you get to work with actors or
511
00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:16.039
meet people who like, they are like, touches you, it
512
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.299
goes into you in some sort, in some way, shape
513
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.809
or form. So, yeah. But I do try. It just
514
00:25:21.849 --> 00:25:22.809
might take a while sometimes.
515
00:25:23.109 --> 00:25:26.930
There are certain people where... There's a handful. I think
516
00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:32.650
of Conan O'Brien. And it's like there's not... Sometimes I
517
00:25:32.670 --> 00:25:36.039
just feel like there's nothing I can say. Putting words
518
00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.819
to it almost feels like I'm doing an injustice to
519
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.740
the feeling. Because there's just... Or like if I met
520
00:25:42.819 --> 00:25:46.619
John Williams, I would just be like, I'd rather just
521
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.829
sit here and listen to you play the piano, then
522
00:25:49.890 --> 00:25:53.250
try to like, be like, because like you said, it's
523
00:25:53.269 --> 00:25:58.690
going to be, and I don't have nine weeks. I don't.
524
00:26:00.109 --> 00:26:01.539
That's how I felt. Well, do you know what? I'm
525
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.440
so glad you said that. I feel, I feel seen.
526
00:26:03.460 --> 00:26:05.720
That's what the feeling is. I don't have the words.
527
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.880
And then also it's like, what am I going to say?
528
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.019
Like a hundred thousand people haven't already said to you.
529
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:10.940
Yeah. Yeah.
530
00:26:11.619 --> 00:26:15.339
But I realized the point is actually, it is still different.
531
00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:19.299
And I, I had the, the luxury of having enough
532
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:23.680
time to tell him the story, the context.
533
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:25.019
You did the classy route.
534
00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:28.049
Wow. Wow. I'm glad it was classy.
535
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.569
Thank you for saying that. That is because you've shown
536
00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:37.730
that you're like, I'm a hardworking, capable person. And I waited.
537
00:26:39.309 --> 00:26:41.670
You didn't shake his hand the first time and been like,
538
00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:44.210
Oh my gosh, because then that's all he's going to
539
00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:47.769
think about when you guys are working.
540
00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:51.430
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. No, it didn't feel
541
00:26:51.470 --> 00:26:53.890
that way. It still felt incredibly vulnerable and terrifying. But
542
00:26:54.329 --> 00:26:57.589
to be honest, Keanu's amazing and he would have been
543
00:26:57.650 --> 00:27:00.769
open from week one. It would have been fine. But yeah,
544
00:27:00.869 --> 00:27:03.789
it's cool. That's another gift that this career has given me.
545
00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:06.210
It's been able to meet people who mean something to
546
00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:07.630
me and get to share that to them. And it's
547
00:27:07.670 --> 00:27:08.630
always received with such love.
548
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.299
One thing I do is I always have the previous
549
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:26.480
guest ask the next guest, i.e. you, a question. And
550
00:27:26.660 --> 00:27:30.940
I interviewed, yesterday I interviewed Seth Green, who is the
551
00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:37.339
voice of, yeah, Chris Griffin and created Robot Chicken. He
552
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.779
wanted to ask you a very specific question.
553
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:42.000
Oh, wow. Okay.
554
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:51.599
So Seth is 5'4. you're what six six five six
555
00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:55.819
five okay so he was like Seth was saying he's
556
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:01.240
particularly a particularly small guy you're a particularly tall guy
557
00:28:01.259 --> 00:28:06.099
Seth has to get his clothes like when he buys
558
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.029
clothes he like buys a million of one thing because
559
00:28:09.069 --> 00:28:11.529
it's so hard for him to find things he's wondering
560
00:28:11.609 --> 00:28:14.650
if you have the same challenge Yes.
561
00:28:15.130 --> 00:28:23.569
Yes, Seth, I do. Being this tall and dashing is expensive.
562
00:28:24.430 --> 00:28:27.299
It's very expensive. It is really expensive. I'm about to
563
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.160
fly back to LA and I can't fly normal. I
564
00:28:31.180 --> 00:28:34.500
have to pay. I have to pay. I can't sit
565
00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:39.349
in the normal seats. I have to beg and hope
566
00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:42.549
that there's an aisle seat available. If not, I got
567
00:28:42.569 --> 00:28:44.839
to pay way more money. When I get on that
568
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.160
plane and I walk through the flipping cabin and I
569
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.900
see the people in the aisle seat are all Seth
570
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.769
Green's height, it does not feel good. It doesn't feel good.
571
00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:57.450
I'm like, you don't need this space. But yeah, if
572
00:28:57.509 --> 00:29:00.289
I do find a place that, oh, this is a
573
00:29:00.309 --> 00:29:03.849
good fit of jean. If we sat next to each other,
574
00:29:04.190 --> 00:29:05.849
we'd probably be the same height. But when I stand up,
575
00:29:05.869 --> 00:29:08.890
that's when you feel it. But yeah, if I see
576
00:29:08.910 --> 00:29:11.680
something that fits well, I probably will buy multiples of that.
577
00:29:12.099 --> 00:29:14.400
I do a lot of... I can't remember the last
578
00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:18.680
time I shopped in a real life store. Often I'm
579
00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:23.700
doing online or I'll go to like a flea market
580
00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:26.940
where the vendors have made the clothes themselves. And sometimes
581
00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:29.140
you get a bit more luck in that regard. The
582
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.369
dream is to like be able to do more stuff
583
00:29:32.390 --> 00:29:35.349
where like I'm designing the clothes and have someone that
584
00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:37.809
makes them for me. That's the dream. That's the dream
585
00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:41.809
because I'm very particular about what I wear and I
586
00:29:41.849 --> 00:29:43.890
get bored a lot as well. So I have ideas
587
00:29:43.930 --> 00:29:46.210
in my head. I'm like, ah, I'll see some really
588
00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:48.690
cool stuff, some really fly stuff, but I don't have
589
00:29:48.730 --> 00:29:50.730
it in my size. So I want to be able
590
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.930
to have my own, I guess, clothing brand, is that
591
00:29:53.950 --> 00:29:57.180
what I'm saying? I'm launching it right here for people
592
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.869
of my stature so we can be high, And fly.
593
00:30:01.309 --> 00:30:02.910
That's what it's called. High and fly.
594
00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:09.509
That could also be like the name of like a
595
00:30:09.970 --> 00:30:11.450
yummy cannabis brand.
596
00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:14.839
Oh, wow. Let's talk after. Let's talk after. Yes. Yes.
597
00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:17.960
Listen, I'm always looking for more works.
598
00:30:20.779 --> 00:30:22.420
Yes. I like that. I like that. Yes.
599
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.299
You do have a great sense of style.
600
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:26.980
Thank you so much.
601
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:28.440
Has that always been the case?
602
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:37.039
You know, I probably thought so, but looking back, there
603
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.319
was always an attempt. There was always an attempt. There
604
00:30:40.339 --> 00:30:41.740
was always an attempt. But no, I love it. I
605
00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:44.049
think my mom's a very stylish person. And you see
606
00:30:44.170 --> 00:30:46.289
old baby pictures of me, I'm always looking fly as fuck.
607
00:30:46.349 --> 00:30:48.609
So it's kind of like, it's one of those things
608
00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.309
where I'm like, I've inherited this thing for better or worse.
609
00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:54.069
I'm very particular about what I wear. Makes me feel good.
610
00:30:54.849 --> 00:30:57.170
What ring do you have on? What animal is that?
611
00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:01.349
This is, I think it's a tiger. Nice.
612
00:31:01.369 --> 00:31:03.210
You know what it.
613
00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:05.710
Reminds me of? It reminds me of one of my
614
00:31:05.750 --> 00:31:08.039
favorite Disney movies ever. Do you know which one I'm
615
00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:09.539
talking about?
616
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:10.700
There's so many of them.
617
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.900
Aladdin. Yes. You know, in the Cave of Wonders.
618
00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:18.059
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
619
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.200
The tiger comes out of the sand. Yeah, that's what
620
00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:21.980
this reminds me of.
621
00:31:22.869 --> 00:31:25.950
Wait, next time you're in New York, let's go see
622
00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:30.210
Aladdin on Broadway because my friend is in it. And
623
00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:33.410
then you can like, he'll take us backstage and stuff.
624
00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:40.519
Dream. I'm there. I love it. I'm there. 100%.
625
00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:44.180
If you have a question for my next guest.
626
00:31:45.099 --> 00:31:47.440
Yes. I got one.
627
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:48.589
What is it?
628
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:56.779
Next guest. What is your most favorite or most dear
629
00:31:57.019 --> 00:31:59.460
memory or experience with water?
630
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.859
Oh, hopefully it's nothing creepy.
631
00:32:06.339 --> 00:32:07.380
Well, it depends who your guest is.
632
00:32:11.789 --> 00:32:18.750
It's Eli Roth. No, yeah. That's a great question. What's yours?
633
00:32:18.769 --> 00:32:23.420
A few years ago, I went out. on a boat
634
00:32:23.500 --> 00:32:26.420
with some friends and there was an incident, you know,
635
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.680
nearly lost my life. You know, let's not talk about
636
00:32:28.779 --> 00:32:31.200
tea much. But the next day I was like, ooh,
637
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.410
I'm traumatized with this water situation. And I was sitting
638
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by the beach thinking, I can't leave this beach without
639
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jumping back into the ocean. Otherwise the fear is going
640
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to be with me the whole time. And it took
641
00:32:44.769 --> 00:32:47.059
me a few hours, but I eventually jumped into the water.
642
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I said, fuck it, I'm going to do it. If
643
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I die, I die. And it was fine. I was fine.
644
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.740
And I felt like all the fear leave my body
645
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.160
and I saw the ocean and out to the horizon.
646
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And I was like, I'm proud of myself that I
647
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did this. And that's my most, that's my favorite experience
648
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of water.
649
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That's so lovely.
650
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Yeah, it was cool.
651
00:33:03.809 --> 00:33:05.970
Okay, good. I'm excited to ask this.
652
00:33:06.609 --> 00:33:09.750
Yes, yeah, I'm excited to hear the answer.
653
00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:13.609
So do you consider yourself to have made it?
654
00:33:13.609 --> 00:33:18.109
I have to say yes. I have to say yes.
655
00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:20.250
I think we have to say yes. I wake up
656
00:33:20.289 --> 00:33:22.950
every day and I get to do, my life is
657
00:33:22.990 --> 00:33:26.190
in the pursuit of my art. I've been doing this
658
00:33:27.410 --> 00:33:30.569
for a while now. And I think that it's a
659
00:33:30.589 --> 00:33:32.119
question that some of my friends and I always have
660
00:33:32.130 --> 00:33:34.559
to remind ourselves of, of like, when are we going
661
00:33:34.579 --> 00:33:36.660
to feel like we made it? You know, when is that?
662
00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:39.839
And are we depriving ourselves of acknowledgement of something that
663
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we've done that can't be taken away from us? And
664
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I'm not talking about achievements or like whether your career maintains,
665
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.640
but the fact is, Were you able to have a
666
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.259
dream in your head and realize that dream in some way,
667
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.839
shape or form? And the answer is yes. So yes,
668
00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.940
I have to say that. I've made it, but I
669
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want to keep making it. I want to keep making it.
670
00:33:58.750 --> 00:33:59.910
I want to make it some more. The goalposts can move.
671
00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:01.210
Yeah, yeah.
672
00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:03.269
I want to keep making it some more. But, you know,
673
00:34:03.309 --> 00:34:06.390
I'm here talking to you. We met under the circumstances
674
00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:10.469
that we met in. And if someone in the same
675
00:34:10.510 --> 00:34:12.489
situation said that they didn't make it, I'd say, what
676
00:34:12.510 --> 00:34:15.150
are you talking about? So I think I have to
677
00:34:15.190 --> 00:34:16.449
say I've made it.
678
00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:23.820
If your career was a book and this current period
679
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.199
was a chapter, what would that chapter title be?
680
00:34:28.219 --> 00:34:39.510
It would be called The Exposure of Desire.
681
00:34:40.949 --> 00:34:41.710
Tell me more.
682
00:34:41.789 --> 00:34:46.389
The Exposure of Desire. It's a period when I'm allowing myself...
683
00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:50.619
to hear more of what I desire and to be
684
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.940
able to speak out loud the things I really, really want.
685
00:34:53.900 --> 00:34:56.159
Even the things that are deep, deep down inside. Things
686
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.559
that maybe I'm too scared to admit to myself that
687
00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:01.300
I want this thing. Maybe it feels too far away
688
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.559
or it feels too big or feels too grand. And
689
00:35:05.099 --> 00:35:07.679
just allowing that desire to be exposed has been like
690
00:35:07.739 --> 00:35:13.440
a really fun exercise that I've been practicing. Because once
691
00:35:13.500 --> 00:35:16.070
I hear the desire, I'm like, oh wow, like, Why
692
00:35:16.090 --> 00:35:18.469
was I afraid to admit this to myself? Or how
693
00:35:18.510 --> 00:35:20.869
far away is that really? Or do I really feel
694
00:35:20.889 --> 00:35:24.230
like I deserve this? And it's been, yeah, a really
695
00:35:24.269 --> 00:35:27.510
great journey to like confront that part of myself, celebrate
696
00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:30.789
that part of myself, to flex that muscle. Because I
697
00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:33.130
think all of us, this desire, desire is like the
698
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fuel that moves the vehicle. I think I had a
699
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.539
period recently where I've reconnected with that part of myself,
700
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like you said, because I have made it. but I
701
00:35:43.349 --> 00:35:45.590
want to make it more. And it's like align myself
702
00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:48.349
to feel comfortable saying, yeah, I want more. I'm feeling
703
00:35:48.369 --> 00:35:50.550
good about that. So I'd say, yeah, that'd be a
704
00:35:50.570 --> 00:35:51.130
cool chapter.
705
00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:58.739
My final question is what questions do you, I could
706
00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:00.780
ask this one of two ways. I could say, what
707
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.679
are your least favorite questions to be asked during press?
708
00:36:04.099 --> 00:36:06.659
Or I could say, what are your favorite questions to
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00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:10.820
be asked during press? So depending on like how negative
710
00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:15.119
I want to be, So feel free to take that
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00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.260
from either angle.
712
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.079
I think I'm still in a space. I'm like, you
713
00:36:19.099 --> 00:36:22.199
want to ask me questions? That's cool. You want to
714
00:36:22.219 --> 00:36:25.780
hear me speak? Cool. If it's a bad question, I
715
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.280
still get to speak. I would say my favorite questions
716
00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:30.139
are always ones that, I mean, you ask great questions.
717
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.849
I mean, it's questions that are surprising that kind of
718
00:36:32.869 --> 00:36:35.469
make you think about things from another, a different perspective.
719
00:36:35.730 --> 00:36:40.949
And whatever will allow, we're asking questions that, hopefully for
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an audience that are going to consume and receive the
721
00:36:43.329 --> 00:36:45.730
answers and you want to give them things they've never
722
00:36:45.769 --> 00:36:47.889
heard before or things that they relate to in a
723
00:36:47.929 --> 00:36:51.590
different way so i always appreciate people as talented as
724
00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:53.969
yourself who are able to like ask certain questions which
725
00:36:54.090 --> 00:36:57.789
reveal and are surprising even to the person who's being
726
00:36:57.929 --> 00:37:01.050
asked so that is always great maybe my favorite sort
727
00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:04.610
of questions are questions that allow me to remember like
728
00:37:05.289 --> 00:37:07.769
how lucky i am when how amazing it is to
729
00:37:07.809 --> 00:37:09.570
be here, like what a dream this is and anything
730
00:37:09.590 --> 00:37:13.820
that makes me remember and have to like relate to
731
00:37:13.860 --> 00:37:16.070
where I was and to where I am now. And
732
00:37:16.110 --> 00:37:18.840
anything weird, any weird questions, I like a weird question.
733
00:37:19.380 --> 00:37:19.940
Those are cool too.
734
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.239
I was doing this bit. I don't think it was
735
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.579
very funny to the people I was with, but I
736
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.460
was like drinking this drink that they had put like
737
00:37:29.579 --> 00:37:33.119
so much whipped cream on top of. And there was
738
00:37:33.219 --> 00:37:36.579
no way to drink this drink without just getting covered
739
00:37:37.070 --> 00:37:39.309
in whipped cream. It was like, it was, it was
740
00:37:39.909 --> 00:37:44.320
in consumable, unconscious. It was anyway. So I was doing
741
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.599
this bit where like, I'd take a sip and just
742
00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:48.480
be covered in whipped cream and then ask them like
743
00:37:48.659 --> 00:37:50.579
what their least favorite way to die would be. Um,
744
00:37:52.219 --> 00:37:53.579
so I love a weird question.
745
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.389
Yes. That's my type of time.
746
00:37:57.789 --> 00:37:59.650
I don't think it, I don't know if it was
747
00:37:59.730 --> 00:38:02.550
going over the way that I thought it was going to,
748
00:38:02.610 --> 00:38:05.369
but I love a weird, I love a weird question.
749
00:38:05.409 --> 00:38:11.230
I'll, Humans are weird. Humans are weird. Humans are very strange.
750
00:38:11.969 --> 00:38:13.929
And it's very strange that we pretend that we're not strange.
751
00:38:13.969 --> 00:38:17.050
That's the strangest part of all. So sometimes we can
752
00:38:17.070 --> 00:38:19.550
just cut to the chase. Ask me a weird question.
753
00:38:19.570 --> 00:38:22.849
Let's get into it. Gosh.
754
00:38:23.530 --> 00:38:28.110
What is a... Let me try and end on a
755
00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:28.909
weird question.
756
00:38:28.929 --> 00:38:30.050
Oh my God, yes.
757
00:38:32.929 --> 00:38:34.190
I feel like it's got to be like a would
758
00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:34.769
you rather.
759
00:38:34.789 --> 00:38:36.780
I love a would you rather.
760
00:38:38.739 --> 00:38:42.000
But the ones I always think of are like very
761
00:38:42.059 --> 00:38:43.969
unpleasant things instead of like.
762
00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:47.429
Hit me. Hit me. Be yourself. Be yourself. Tell me.
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00:38:48.250 --> 00:38:56.269
Ask me. I want to know. Yes. It's a safe space.
764
00:38:59.030 --> 00:38:59.429
Okay.
765
00:38:59.750 --> 00:39:00.030
Hold on.
766
00:39:00.050 --> 00:39:01.809
I think I've actually written some of these down.
767
00:39:01.889 --> 00:39:02.369
One second.
768
00:39:03.659 --> 00:39:14.889
Okay. Would you rather... Have teeth that were marshmallows? Or
769
00:39:14.969 --> 00:39:16.550
hair made of pasta?
770
00:39:21.170 --> 00:39:26.489
Do the marshmallows become, do they like get soggy? Do
771
00:39:26.510 --> 00:39:29.969
they eventually get like eaten? Or do they just stay marshmallows?
772
00:39:31.869 --> 00:39:34.570
I'm going to say that they stay marshmallows because that
773
00:39:34.610 --> 00:39:36.250
would fall apart very quickly.
774
00:39:37.889 --> 00:39:39.630
I think I'd rather have hair made of spaghetti. I
775
00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:42.920
think that's actually quite clutch. Because I could shave it.
776
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:45.219
You could, yeah. I could shave it. You know, and
777
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.960
then if I'm hungry, imagine that. I'll never starve. Oh, yeah.
778
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:48.639
That's amazing.
779
00:39:49.150 --> 00:39:51.329
And also, I could do a lot of cool hairstyles
780
00:39:51.349 --> 00:39:54.329
with spaghetti here. I think I could do a lot
781
00:39:54.369 --> 00:39:56.469
of cool hairstyles with spaghetti here. Be a bit of
782
00:39:56.530 --> 00:39:58.550
an issue when it's hot and it's humid. That might
783
00:39:58.570 --> 00:40:02.070
be a difficult thing, but other than that, I think
784
00:40:02.130 --> 00:40:03.349
I could make it work.
785
00:40:03.769 --> 00:40:05.590
Do you guys have Play-Doh there? Do you know what
786
00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:06.190
Play-Doh is?
787
00:40:06.670 --> 00:40:07.969
Of course, absolutely, yes.
788
00:40:08.090 --> 00:40:11.179
Awesome Play-Doh. Did you ever have the barbershop one?
789
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:12.760
No.
790
00:40:13.780 --> 00:40:18.289
So it's like a little person... shaped like a thumb
791
00:40:18.369 --> 00:40:20.550
with like holes in it with a face and you
792
00:40:20.570 --> 00:40:23.400
put the Play-Doh under it. And so when you push down,
793
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.500
it would, the hair would come out of their head.
794
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:27.340
Oh wow. I think I've seen this.
795
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.659
You could like cut the hair and then.
796
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.760
Oh my God.
797
00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:33.099
Spaghetti hair.
798
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.489
Anyway. I need to get my hands on some Play-Doh.
799
00:40:35.530 --> 00:40:39.570
Life was, life was always better with some Play-Doh. Yeah.
800
00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:42.989
I mean, that's one thing about having nieces and nephews
801
00:40:43.050 --> 00:40:46.869
that like is helpful, except like, when you're with them,
802
00:40:47.170 --> 00:40:49.989
like you're back to the days of like, I want
803
00:40:50.030 --> 00:40:52.329
that color or like, I'm going to stick this in
804
00:40:52.369 --> 00:40:56.690
my mouth or my nose or maybe like an adult
805
00:40:56.789 --> 00:40:57.809
Play-Doh get together.
806
00:40:57.829 --> 00:41:04.260
An adult Play-Doh get together. Okay. This is another business venture.
807
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.500
We're going to be rich. Yes. I like this.
808
00:41:07.820 --> 00:41:08.860
For tall men.
809
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.300
For tall men. For tall men. Exactly. All right.
810
00:41:14.780 --> 00:41:17.670
Well, This has been a successful interview.
811
00:41:18.150 --> 00:41:19.579
Yes, it is. Well done. You got through it.