MENGENAI EPISOD INI
“Do you actually love this thing – or do you just love your story in many forms?”
This week, Natasha and Carla are joined by award-winning choreographer and content creator Jamaal Burkmar (@jamaalburkmar) – whose work spans film, pop culture, masculinity and the increasingly weird rules about what men and women are apparently allowed to be.
We get into why simply putting a woman, LGBTQ+ person or person of colour at the centre of a story can now be dismissed as “woke”, why some people seem unable to engage with a world that doesn’t reflect their own experience back at them, and whether film, TV and culture can actually help us understand lives we’ll never live ourselves.
We also talk about Jamaal’s years in the dance industry – from brutal training cultures and body standards to the very different pressures placed on male and female performers – and, naturally, we end up on the manosphere, rejection, dating, why going to the gym isn’t a substitute for working on yourself, and whether some men complaining about being lonely need to look slightly closer to home.
PLUS: what’s been winding us up (A LOT), Green Light, Red Light on lateness, Do Not Disturb, splitting the bill and sleeping in socks; some surprisingly wholesome – and yep, less wholesome – stats about men and relationships in Guess Again; and Jamaal’s big sibling advice.
Note: This episode includes discussion of sexual violence, rape, suicide, body image and abusive practices within the dance industry.
HASSL’d contains mature content, including occasional strong language and conversations around harassment, misogyny and violence.
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TRANSKRIP 🔗
speaker-1: We're taking the conversations women have been having for years out of the group chat and inviting everyone in including men.
speaker-0: We're here to have fun, honest chats, but we'll also cover some hard topics. Don't worry, we'll give you a heads up before we do so that you can protect your peace if you need to.
speaker-1: Okay, I've got one question for you. Who approved us getting mics?
speaker-0: Cassold is sponsore…
