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On Saturday, the CEO of one of the world's most valuable companies published an essay arguing that his own industry is moving too fast and it needs to slow down.
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I think you all know who I'm talking about here.
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This is, of course, Dario Amadei, the CEO of Anthropic.
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If you haven't been following all the crazy stories that have been going around around AI taking over the world, I'll recap a little bit of that today.
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I did a deep dive episode on it a couple of days ago, but some new things have come to light over the past few days, which I'm going to talk about as well.
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And the interesting thing is that after Dario Amadei published this essay, shared it on X, within hours, his three biggest competitors actually agreed with him publicly by name.
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Usually this does not happen.
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Competitors do not typically agree on these kinds of things, especially they do not agree when it's something that they are trying to sell and make money off of.
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So when several rivals are collectively coming together, potentially burning hundreds of billions of dollars to beat each other, and then all of a sudden they suddenly link arms and say, hey, you know, somebody please regulate us.
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Somebody please step in and slow us down.
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Something is clearly going on.
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And I have a couple, actually one in particular post from X that I want to share with you today from David Sachs, which I think is very revealing around what is happening here.
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And so the interesting question that this makes me think of is what is actually happening?
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What else is true at the same time?
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Because remember that one of these companies, Anthropic, is supposed to be going public next month.
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And I believe the latest valuation was a $2 trillion valuation.
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It would become the biggest IPO ever in American history if indeed Anthropic does go public at that $2 trillion valuation.
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Again, this is supposed to be in just a couple of weeks time here.
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Another one, OpenAI said they are not going public this year.
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But again, let's be honest, we're already near the end of the year.
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Next year, you know, 90 plus days.
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And they said the reason for that is because of safety.
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The president also came out, President Trump came out and said that he's not buying any of this.
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He thinks there's too many negative forces that are floating around out there.
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He says that America is at the leading edge of AI.
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It doesn't make sense to slow down because China is going to take over.
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Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, said something similar.
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He said,
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He said that if we didn't have any adversaries in the world, then he too would potentially be in favor of slowing down.
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But that is not the world that we live in.
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We have adversaries around the world.
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And if we slow down, they speed up, we lose.
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Pretty interesting arguments that are being made across the board.
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And then there's the possibility that I don't hear a lot of people talking about, which is what if the reason that these companies are comfortable slowing down is because the models are already slowing down?
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Maybe they're potentially peaking.
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Maybe they want to deflect from potential liability.
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Lots of different things that could be going on here.
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I'll unpack that in just a little bit.
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Today is Monday, September 14th, 2026.
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And hey, we woke up.
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It's another day.
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AI didn't take over the world.
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Humanity is still around.
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So it's a pretty good day.
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But if you've been following the news over the past two weeks, you might feel like you are lucky to wake up today.
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Another story that I'm going to get to, Oracle, more potential layoffs.
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And the last story of the day, Fortune Commentary that was published, I think it was Saturday, came out talking about the case for civic education as a powerful tool for workforce readiness.
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Very interesting article, actually.
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And so I'll unpack that a little bit as well.
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Okay, so let's get into the first story of the day.
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September 12th, Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei comes out.
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He publishes a 3,400-word essay titled, We Must Pace the Frontier, basically arguing that the AI industry needs to deliberately slow down capability.
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It needs to slow down growth.
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And the essay lays out three essential steps.
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Embedded evaluators, which Anthropic committed to on its own.
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These are people who will work for
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Third parties, which will be embedded in these AI companies to evaluate them.
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Democratic coordination, where frontier AI companies in democratic countries set common safety standards and limits on the rate of unchecked progress.
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And global coordination, where the U.S. and other democratic governments attempt to coordinate with authoritarian governments while taking the verification problem seriously.
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That will never happen.
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Well, I shouldn't say never.
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The odds of that happening are slim.
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Amadei started two developments that changed his mind since roughly summer 2026.
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One is recursive self-improvement, which is the idea that AI is improving itself.
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A couple of days ago, I talked about this idea of AI being on the second half of the chessboard.
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And the analogy is that if you put a grain of rice on the first square of a chessboard and you keep doubling it by the time you get to the end, 64 squares, there are more grains of rice than exist on planet Earth.
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Now, the doubling doesn't look like it's actually that big a deal until you get to the second half of the chessboard and then you see the hockey stick type growth going straight up.
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And so the argument that a lot of these AI companies are saying is, hey, we've been on this gradual progression.
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over the past few years.
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And now we're approaching the second half of the chessboard where every change that we make, when we double from one square of the chessboard to the next, the change is greater than the sum of all previous changes that came before it.
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And so the idea of recursive self-improvement is AI that is actually improving itself.
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Not that humans are improving it and training it, but AI is training itself.
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And it can do so much faster,
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And therefore, the abilities and capabilities that these AI tools are going to have are supposedly going to increase exponentially.
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That is at least the argument that Amadei is making.
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So recursive self-improvement, again, meaning that models build themselves.
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And then there was also the OpenAI hugging face incident, which I, for the life of me, do not understand why people are freaking out about this.
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Because if you follow it, a lot of the recent news out there...
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a big reason why this happened is because of human negligence.
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Now, I'm not saying that these AI agents didn't in some way coordinate, bypass security, but the main reason why all this happened is because of human negligence.
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Humans made mistakes in securing these agents in, in certain technical things that they did and the agents took advantage of it.
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But had the humans done a better job of securing these,
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these agents, not leaving their potential authentication, either it was tokens or APIs out there on the web for these agents to access, this probably wouldn't have happened.
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So I think people are talking about this as if AI is sentient, it had a motive, it went out there and hacked these things.
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Again, a large part of this was as a result of human error.
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I won't get into the whole like detail of the hugging face thing.
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I covered it in previous episodes.
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Lots of people have also covered it in far better detail than I'm able to who have, you know, technical knowledge on how these things are built and created, et cetera.
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But again, human error was a large cause here.
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Now, again, OpenAI not going public this year because of the safety work that Sam Altman says they need to do.
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And he said, quote, I actually think that given everything happening with safety right now, or everything happening with safety right now would be an ill-advised moment to go public.
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And we don't feel pressure on that.
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Okay, you remember the anthropic researcher, Jacob Coxon, again, some entry-level, maybe low-mid-level employee, came out of nowhere, worked at the company for six weeks,
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And just the whole background here, the connection between the OpenAI, I'm sorry, the Anthropic Founders and Effective Altruism, which is a company that basically says, you know, make as much money as you want, give everything to charity.
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They have this culture of doomerism embedded in them, and they are very connected to the founders.
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In fact, I believe it was some of these people who gave some of the initial rounds of funding to the Anthropic Founders.
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So there's just a lot of weird...
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I don't know, you want to call it conspiracy theories, just weird connections, weird things that are going on behind the scenes.
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All of a sudden this guy comes out, nobody's heard of him, no social media presence, Wall Street Journal's publishing things before his posts even go out.
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It just looks very coordinated, very planned, very, I don't know, very artificial.
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I'm not saying there isn't perhaps some sense of legitimacy to it.
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Maybe it's all real, I don't know.
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And a lot of people are pointing that out.
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It just feels a little bit weird.
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Several bills are already moving as a result of this.
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some, you know, Bernie Sanders came out.
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I think he said he wants to put a bill on banning super intelligence.
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And you can fact check me on this, but I think he said something along the lines of he wanted to put either, I believe it was a 20 year prison sentence on people who are going to pursue super intelligence if it gets banned.
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I believe that's what he said.
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You see people coming out and saying they want to ban it.
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They want to halt it.
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Stop the data centers.
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Stop all of this stuff.
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I think that's the wrong approach personally.
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Again, Trump came out.
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He said he saw all these signs.
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He says a lot of these things are exaggerated.
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There are negative forces that are making claims out there about things that won't happen.
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And by the way, we should also point out these types of claims have been made about all sorts of things over the years.
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Whether you look at cars, whether you look at the atomic bomb, whether you look at CRISPR and gene editing, whether you look at, I mean, anything.
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There's always been this sense of doomerism around anything and everything that we create, any kind of innovation.
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So this is not new.
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It's also important to point out that I don't think any of the claims or the predictions that OpenAI or Anthropic have made have come to fruition.
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They've talked about reaching super intelligence.
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And I don't remember the year when they said it was going to be, but that seems to be off base.
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They said that we were going to have 10% to 20% unemployment.
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That didn't seem to come to fruition.
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They talked about white collar jobs getting decimated.
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That didn't happen.
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They talked about computer degrees and AI writing 90% of code.
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We're not going to need computer scientists and engineers anymore.
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That didn't happen.
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Literally none of the predictions that any of these...
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founders or leaders of these companies have made have come to fruition.
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So you don't have a lot of credibility.
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A lot of people are not trusting these companies because, I mean, what's there to trust?
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On the one hand, you tell me you're making something that's going to take out, you know, end humanity.
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Flip-flopping here.
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I mean, it's all over the map.
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How are you supposed to trust these companies?
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And again, I'm going to get to a tweet that David
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shared recently, which I think is spot on how a lot of people are thinking and how they are feeling about this.
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So let's also not forget that I mentioned this, the Anthropic IPO, $2 trillion.
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It would be the largest IPO in corporate history.
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And Anthropic is billing itself as the safety company.
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So a lot of people are out there, and I believe some of this too, that these companies are out there saying, look, we are the only company in the world, Anthropics specifically, we are the AI safety company.
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Only we can be trusted to make AI safe.
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Oh, and by the way, we're going public by our shares.
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So you can see how the doomerism feeds into their valuation because they're basically saying that they are the saviors of the human race against AI.
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And if a company like that is making that claim and they're going public, what do you think is going to happen to their valuation?
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And it was funny because, again, I think it was David Sachs a week or a couple days ago who said, well, surely if you think that your company is going to end humanity, you cannot be allowed to IPO, right?
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Surely you're going to delay your IPO.
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No.
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Full steam ahead.
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So you see, on the one hand, you're saying, hey, we're making something that could potentially end humanity.
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Oh, and by the way, we're going public.
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at a historic valuation, and only we can stop this thing that we're creating from taking over the world.
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So we are both the creator of the problem and the solution of the problem.
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And we all want to become gazillionaires.
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It just feels and sounds a little bit weird.
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So the futurist lens here.
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A warning can be sincere.
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Now, I don't doubt that there are some... that AI can be used for some scary things.
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I don't disagree with that.
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I'm not that naive to say that, hey, AI is just this useless kind of, you know, chat thing.
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I get it.
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There are lots of fears around hacking.
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There are lots of, you know, there are lots of potential things that AI can do, but there are lots of potential things that anything can do.
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A car...
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The nuke.
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So for me, when I look at something, the potential, assuming that something you're creating is going to have the most devastating consequences and not the most amazing positive outcomes, I think is a weird way to look at things.
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So I think there could be potentially some sincere warnings.
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Sure, that's fine.
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But if you're going to say that something you're creating is going to lead to the end of humanity, you need to give some sort of proof here.
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Something.
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Give me something.
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You know, we saw nuclear tests.
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We saw the damage that those things can do.
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And we all said, holy bleep, that's not good.
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What are we seeing?
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Is there any data?
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Around the edge of, the end of, how is humanity going to end?
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What, give me a scenario.
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Are we talking that AI agents are just going to hack into the grid?
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They're going to hack into our water supply.
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They're going to hack into government institutions.
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They're going to just collapse banks.
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They're going to launch nukes.
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They're going to create bioweapons.
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How is the end of humanity happening?
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I mean, I'm over here trying to connect
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Claude and ChatGPT to edit a YouTube video, and you're over there talking about the end of humanity.
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How do we get from there to the other place?
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I still get the occasional, although it's getting much better, admittedly, the occasional hallucination, the occasional like weird thing in AI.
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I'm trying to just connect basic stuff over here, and you're talking about these AI tools that are going to
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in the coming years, wipe out planet Earth?
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I don't understand.
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If you're going to paint a picture and tell me that the world is going to end, you need to tell me how.
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Like if I tell you, hey, look at this.
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You see this remote that I'm holding here for one of my lights?
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This thing here in the next two to three years is going to end all human life on Earth.
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I'm not going to tell you how.
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You just got to believe me.
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You're gonna look at me and say, what the hell are you talking about, Jacob?
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And that's sort of the feeling that a lot of people are getting.
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Walk me through the scenario of how this is going to happen.
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Okay, so let's break down a few things here.
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Okay, so one of them,
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And when I say break things down, I mean why potentially some of these narratives are happening.
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I already talked about the IPO, what this is going to do to their valuation, the narrative, the story.
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A second one.
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Fixed costs are a very powerful weapon against competitors.
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So when you permanently tell everybody that you have to embed third-party costs,
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with evaluators with employee level access inside of an organization to evaluate AI tools, a company with thousands of employees worth tens of billions of dollars, you can absorb that cost.
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And if the evaluators say you need to make certain changes, you can do it.
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You have the resources, you have the tools, you have everything you need to do that.
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If I'm a startup, I have four people, 10 people, 50 people.
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And I am now supposed to follow the same rules and regulations that you are.
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A multi-billion dollar company with thousands of employees.
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I don't have the resources.
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I don't have the tools.
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I don't have the ability to make any necessary changes that you need.
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are able to.
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And so essentially what's happening is that, and this is the concept of regulatory capture.
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These companies are going to sit on the potential governing the body that's going to shape AI policy going forward and set rules and restrictions and policies that other people are not going to be able to follow.
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Therefore, they're going to be the judge, so to speak, the jury and the CEO at the same time.
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And you're going to lock in only two, three, I don't know, let's say two to five companies that sit at the very top who run all of this stuff and nobody else is going to be able to compete with them.
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That's the idea of regulatory capture.
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I have the resources.
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I'm worth trillions of dollars.
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I can make any of these changes and do whatever I want.
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You're a small up and coming AI shop.
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You're not able to do it.
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You kill these organizations.
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This is why there's a big debate between open source and closed source.
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Why OpenAI, I'm sorry, not OpenAI, NVIDIA, bought Hugging Face for I believe it was $13 billion.
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Open source is going to be a big competitor to these closed source models.
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Okay, another reason why I think this is happening.
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This essay that Dario put out, I think is also a legal document.
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And before I go into this, I want to read this post from David Sachs.
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I'll put it up here on the screen as well.
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Okay?
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And it's really worth paying attention to everything that David says here.
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And this post got 9 million views, over 3,000 comments.
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I was one of the people that commented or I think re-shared it.
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Okay, so here's the post from David Sachs, the former AI and crypto czar.
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Quote, Dario has written that we need to pace the frontier, and Sam has agreed.
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People may be surprised by my response.
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Go ahead.
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You guys are the frontier.
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By any reasonable metric, market share, revenue growth, model capability, the two of you have a duopoly on frontier intelligence.
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You've also claimed the lead is widening because of recursive self-improvement.
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I don't see what you see in the lab, but if the unreleased models are scary enough that you think you should slow down, I support your decision to be responsible.
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But stop pretending you need anyone else's permission.
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Stop pretending antitrust law has to be suspended so you can form a cartel.
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Stop pretending you need a regulatory approval process that supersedes product liability.
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Stop pretending you need a regulatory approval process that supersedes product liability.
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Stop pretending meter is independent when it's intertwined with Anthropics investors and staff.
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And meter, M-E-T-R, M-E-T-R, all caps, is one of these third-party evaluators.
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So he's saying stop pretending that meter is independent when it's intertwined with Anthropics investors and staff.
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Stop pretending you need those same evaluators to police competitors who aren't even at the frontier.
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Most of all, stop pretending the motivation to slow down is purely altruistic.
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You face massive product liability exposure if your products enable a truly damaging cyber attack.
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The market already punishes models that behave in unpredictable and or unauthorized ways.
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After the hugging face episode, it is simply good business for OpenAI and Anthropic to trade some raw power for reliability and predictability.
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Call it alignment if you want.
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It's also giving customers what they want.
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Pacing the frontier would also create breathing room for a more intelligent conversation about regulation than Bernie Sanders' shut it all down.
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China is very unlikely to join a global agreement, as you know, and that has to be taken into account as well.
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So go ahead and pace the frontier.
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You are the ones setting it.
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The easiest way not to build superintelligence is for you to agree not to build it.
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Demanding your preferred regulatory framework as the price of that will look like blackmail of the public and the political system.
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So just do it.
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If you do, you'll buy goodwill for the next conversation.
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If you don't, we'll know this was just another bid for regulatory capture or an election season psyop.
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Now, whether you agree with David Sachs, whether you agree with Republicans or Democrats, either side here, I think David Sachs' post is a good one.
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And it was actually shared by quite a few people.
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It's worth reading that.
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And I think that come the 2028 elections, this is going to be, crazy to say, one of the biggest problems.
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conversations of debate for the next presidential election.
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I mean, it's going to come up in the midterms in November, but come 2028?
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I mean, imagine where the models are going to be in two years from now.
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What version of Claude, what version of ChatGPT we're going to be on.
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This is going to be, I think, one of the hottest, and this is, again, assuming things carry on course,
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This is going to be one of the hottest and biggest topics of debate going forward.
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Which is very, it's crazy to think about.
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With all the stuff happening in the world, I think this is going to be front and center.
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So,
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These are all, I think, very, very important points.
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And I had a few other points here that I was going to talk about, but David Sachs highlighted them all in that post that I read.
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Again, a legal document for liability.
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The antitrust thing David Sachs talked about.
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The marketing claim, our software might end the world is a very powerful marketing claim.
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So this is the state of things now.
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I sit on the side where, and again, I don't have access to these labs.
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I don't see what they see.
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But from what I have observed as an outsider, I stand on the side of David Sachs, which is, and Alex Karp and all these people, don't regulate, full speed ahead with AI, but,
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I think there's a lot of weird shady stuff going on in the background.
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And one of the other theories is maybe these things are plateauing.
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Maybe they're peaking.
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Maybe they're already getting to a level.
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It's kind of like approaching the speed of light.
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You can never travel the speed of light, but you can get potentially 99.999999999999% of the way there.
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But you can never actually get it.
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So maybe there is something going on here where these companies might be slowing down.
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Maybe revenue is slowing down.
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Maybe capability might be slowing down.
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Maybe they're, and again, I have no insider knowledge on this, but this is one theory that I've seen floated around.
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Maybe they're getting to a point where it's like, hey, we're like, you know, maybe we're peaking at a point.
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So let's tell everybody we need to slow down because we are actually slowing down.
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Lots of theories out there, lots of ideas out there around why this is happening.
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Whether it's capability slowing down, whether it's the regulatory capture piece.
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whether it's the influence from effective altruism.
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But I just have a very hard time buying the end of the world scenario when I don't see evidence of the end of the world scenario.
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I don't see data.
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I don't see examples.
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I don't see stories.
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Jensen Huang is coming out there, the CEO of NVIDIA, saying this is all complete BS.
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There's just a lot of strange stuff happening.
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So again, we will see how this plays out.
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But I'm on team humanity, but also let's maximize AI in a way to unlock human potential.
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This is, I think, a potential massive boost for the US economy across the board.
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And so for me, the idea of slowing down seems pretty crazy, especially when your adversaries are only going to be speeding up.
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And who knows, maybe we'll see something come out in the coming weeks and months that'll change everybody's mind.
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Then maybe there was this crazy hack or story or I don't know what, showing that AI is plotting and scheming and working behind the scenes and developing sentience.
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Some alien life.
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I don't know if something like that comes out, maybe I'll change my mind.
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But I don't know, nobody's seen that.
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So the political side of this, the economic side of this, the technology side, the capability side of it, everything is becoming intertwined into like one big ball of mush.
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But it's still a fascinating story.
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You know, there's the Sam Altman documentary, Artificial, not documentary, movie that's coming out called Artificial.
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Anyway, I will stop there with the AI stuff
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But I will touch on it again as interesting stories do come out.
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Now, the second story building on that, Oracle announcing a new round of layoffs.
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According to three people affected and a notification email shared with Business Insider, the email told employees their role was eliminated as a part of a broader organizational change and that today is your last working day.
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So they are, I don't know if the announcements, the layoffs were officially announced, but these are the rumors of people who are getting some emails already that some teams are already being reduced potentially by double digit growths.
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Growths, growth by double digits.
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I'm looking at LinkedIn here as a trending story.
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And so, yeah, I don't know if this is confirmed.
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I mean, it's already on Business Insider as well.
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Let's see if they have any specific numbers on here.
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Yeah, I don't see anything specific from Oracle yet, but employees are getting the announcements that these are happening.
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A lot of people are seeing thousands of employees.
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Oracle already cut 21,000 employees this year.
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And so now apparently they're cutting thousands more, but I don't know what the exact number is.
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And I haven't seen anything around what that exact number is.
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Now, the interesting thing here is that nobody's saying that this is as a result of AI taking jobs.
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what's really happening here is that Oracle is needing to fund a almost $100 billion construction program, and its cash flow is not able to do it.
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They borrowed tens of billions of dollars already, and I think the leadership team at Oracle is looking around, and they're saying, hey, wait a minute, we're coming up a little bit short.
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We got to let go of some people here.
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Payroll is always the biggest expense.
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Headcount is always the biggest expense.
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And so Oracle is essentially making a trade of people versus concrete, versus wires and pipes and electricity, funding and building these data centers.
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It's AI CapEx displacement is essentially what it is.
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And I think that this is potentially for some of these companies going to be a far larger driver of job loss than AI.
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In other words, the building of the AI, literally the building, the investing in the data centers to be able to generate better models, that is going to be the biggest cause of layoffs.
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Not actually an AI agent replacing a person.
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Which again, is a weird thing to be thinking about.
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You're being let go, not because AI is taking your job, but because we need to build, literally build a building.
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And I think that's what's happening with Oracle.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Meta followed suit.
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These seem to be the two companies that have been going back and forth, trading layoffs, making these massive investments.
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As far as I know, I haven't heard much around layoffs from...
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Nvidia, you don't really hear much about this.
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And maybe there has been, I haven't heard from Amazon.
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So this is kind of the breaking story of the day that Oracle is going to be letting go of thousands of potential employees.
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And they're a massive company, but again, they're also one of the companies that are leading the AI investment.
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I think around a hundred billion dollars.
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Last story of the day that I wanted to get to.
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Fortune published a article a couple of days ago.
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I think this was Saturday or Sunday, which I think is very interesting, making the argument for civic education as an argument for workforce preparedness.
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And civic education is the idea of,
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The rights, the duties, the responsibilities that you have as an individual, as a citizen of a society, of a country.
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What are your responsibilities?
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So as a parent, you have responsibilities.
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As a member of your community, you have responsibilities.
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What are your responsibilities as a citizen of the United States of America, if that is where you are based?
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your rights, your duties, your responsibilities, the role that you play.
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And so the authors are Hillary Crow, vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation, and Ashley Berner, director of the Johns Hopkins Institute for Education Policy.
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And they organize and research the National Civics Bee.
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Only 22% of eighth graders in the United States are proficient in civics.
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According to the most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress, only 18% of business leaders believe entry-level hires are ready for today's workforce.
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I'm going to repeat that.
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Only 18% of business leaders believe that entry-level hires are ready for today's workforce.
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which means that these business leaders believe that 82%, they believe that 82% of entry-level employees are not ready for today's workforce.
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That's crazy.
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Most states now require a single civics course.
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and often only one semester, which is down from the 1960s when high schools required three courses in civics and government.
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One-third of high schoolers offered debate teams.
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I'm sorry, one-third of high schools offered debate teams.
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One-quarter offer mock trials, and 20% offer mock elections.
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2022 Rand Corporation report on K-5 social studies described a missing infrastructure that has gaps in policies, resources, and required testing that would encourage civics instruction in the early grades.
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I mean, this is wild stuff.
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Now, the futurist lens here.
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Not in.
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On October 4th, 1957, you will, well, you probably won't remember, but you will have heard that the Soviet Union launched Sputnik.
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My family is from the former Soviet Union, former USSR from the Republic of Georgia.
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Well, my grandmother from Ukraine.
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My parents both born in the Republic of Georgia in Belisi.
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So in 1957, they launched Sputnik.
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And this was, I think it was the size of a beach ball, you know, launched into space, metal sphere.
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Americans went nuts.
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Like, oh my God, the Soviets are doing this.
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And 11 months later, Congress passed something called the National Defense Education Act.
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And this poured a lot of federal money into science, into mathematics, foreign languages, and...
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And the whole idea behind this was that the Cold War could actually be won in the classroom.
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And this is the, you can think of it as the kind of ancestor of STEM, science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
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Which is, you know, my son, both my kids are really interested in that kind of stuff now.
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And if you look at what teenagers said when they were asked, what is going to matter in an AI economy?
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They said, working with other people, checking whether things are true, making sense of complicated information.
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None of these things are things that you can hand over to a machine.
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Like understanding how decisions get made.
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You know, these human skills, I think, are going to have such a massive premium placed on them.
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Like somebody told me, oh, you know, you're a speaker.
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Maybe your business is going to get, you know, taken over by AI.
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I don't think so.
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I think there's still a lot of demand, a lot of need, a lot of want for human beings.
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Connect with human beings, learn from human beings.
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So, I don't know, maybe I'm too optimistically naive.
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But I think a lot of the human stuff is actually going to have a massive premium behind it.
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And I actually really like the case for civic education in schools.
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I think it's really important for kids, for adults to understand the history of America or whatever country you're from.
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I actually went to the library, not the library, the bookstore the other day, and I wanted to get a book on Georgia, on the Republic of Georgia, because I realized it's where my family is from, but I don't really actually know a lot about, I mean, I know a little bit.
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I don't know a lot about the history of the Republic of Georgia.
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And I went to the library, again, not the library, the bookstore, and I said, do you have any books on the history of Georgia?
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They didn't have a single book.
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So of course, I'm on Amazon looking about all these different books about Georgia that I want to read.
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But my daughter, she wanted a lanyard kit to make lanyards.
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And I said, okay, well, in our house, the currency that we use as rewards is reading.
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And so I said, okay, I'll get you this lanyard kit.
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It's not expensive.
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It's maybe like 20, 25 bucks.
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I said, okay, if you want this lanyard kit, you have to read this book.
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And it was a kid's book about the Declaration of Independence.
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It had nice drawings in there.
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It was a great, great book.
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And so she learned about the Declaration of Independence.
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She learned, you know, the history behind it, the sacrifices that were made, the people that were behind it.
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And it was actually written by Neil Gorsuch.
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And the book is called Heroes of 1776, The Story of the Declaration of Independence.
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And I said, read this book, I'll get you a lanyard kit.
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So I think this idea of teaching civics is great.
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I have no problem with it.
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I try to talk about this stuff with my kids all the time.
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And now after seeing this stat, I'm going to make more of an effort to talk specifically about civics with my kids when we have dinner together.
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Because I think it's an important article.
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But it's also crazy that leaders think that 82% of entry-level employees are not ready for the workforce.
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That to me is a freaky statistic.
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It's pretty crazy.
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So those were the main stories that I wanted to get to today.
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I know I spent a lot of time on the AI story at the beginning, but I think it's pretty fascinating to see what's going on there.
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Obviously, the Oracle layoffs.
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Also interesting to see how organizations like Oracle are trading people for things like construction materials.
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And this idea of civics, I think it's interesting on two parts.
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One, teaching civics, and also the fact that so many business leaders think entry-level employees are not ready to enter the workplace.
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On Saturday, the CEO of one of the world's most valuable companies published an essay arguing that his own industry is moving too fast and it needs to slow down.
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I think you all know who I'm talking about here.
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This is, of course, Dario Amadei, the CEO of Anthropic.
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If you haven't been following all the crazy stories that have been going around around AI taking over the world, I'll recap a little bit of that today.
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I did a deep dive episode on it a couple of days ago, but some new things have come to light over the past few days, which I'm going to talk about as well.
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And the interesting thing is that after Dario Amadei published this essay, shared it on X, within hours, his three biggest competitors actually agreed with him publicly by name.
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Usually this does not happen.
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Competitors do not typically agree on these kinds of things, especially they do not agree when it's something that they are trying to sell and make money off of.
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So when several rivals are collectively coming together, potentially burning hundreds of billions of dollars to beat each other, and then all of a sudden they suddenly link arms and say, hey, you know, somebody please regulate us.
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Somebody please step in and slow us down.
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Something is clearly going on.
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And I have a couple, actually one in particular post from X that I want to share with you today from David Sachs, which I think is very revealing around what is happening here.
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And so the interesting question that this makes me think of is what is actually happening?
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What else is true at the same time?
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Because remember that one of these companies, Anthropic, is supposed to be going public next month.
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And I believe the latest valuation was a $2 trillion valuation.
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It would become the biggest IPO ever in American history if indeed Anthropic does go public at that $2 trillion valuation.
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Again, this is supposed to be in just a couple of weeks time here.
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Another one, OpenAI said they are not going public this year.
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But again, let's be honest, we're already near the end of the year.
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Next year, you know, 90 plus days.
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And they said the reason for that is because of safety.
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The president also came out, President Trump came out and said that he's not buying any of this.
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He thinks there's too many negative forces that are floating around out there.
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He says that America is at the leading edge of AI.
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It doesn't make sense to slow down because China is going to take over.
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Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, said something similar.
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He said,
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He said that if we didn't have any adversaries in the world, then he too would potentially be in favor of slowing down.
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But that is not the world that we live in.
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We have adversaries around the world.
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And if we slow down, they speed up, we lose.
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Pretty interesting arguments that are being made across the board.
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And then there's the possibility that I don't hear a lot of people talking about, which is what if the reason that these companies are comfortable slowing down is because the models are already slowing down?
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Maybe they're potentially peaking.
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Maybe they want to deflect from potential liability.
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Lots of different things that could be going on here.
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I'll unpack that in just a little bit.
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Today is Monday, September 14th, 2026.
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And hey, we woke up.
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It's another day.
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AI didn't take over the world.
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Humanity is still around.
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So it's a pretty good day.
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But if you've been following the news over the past two weeks, you might feel like you are lucky to wake up today.
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Another story that I'm going to get to, Oracle, more potential layoffs.
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And the last story of the day, Fortune Commentary that was published, I think it was Saturday, came out talking about the case for civic education as a powerful tool for workforce readiness.
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Very interesting article, actually.
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And so I'll unpack that a little bit as well.
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Okay, so let's get into the first story of the day.
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September 12th, Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei comes out.
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He publishes a 3,400-word essay titled, We Must Pace the Frontier, basically arguing that the AI industry needs to deliberately slow down capability.
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It needs to slow down growth.
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And the essay lays out three essential steps.
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Embedded evaluators, which Anthropic committed to on its own.
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These are people who will work for
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Third parties, which will be embedded in these AI companies to evaluate them.
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Democratic coordination, where frontier AI companies in democratic countries set common safety standards and limits on the rate of unchecked progress.
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And global coordination, where the U.S. and other democratic governments attempt to coordinate with authoritarian governments while taking the verification problem seriously.
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That will never happen.
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Well, I shouldn't say never.
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The odds of that happening are slim.
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Amadei started two developments that changed his mind since roughly summer 2026.
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One is recursive self-improvement, which is the idea that AI is improving itself.
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A couple of days ago, I talked about this idea of AI being on the second half of the chessboard.
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And the analogy is that if you put a grain of rice on the first square of a chessboard and you keep doubling it by the time you get to the end, 64 squares, there are more grains of rice than exist on planet Earth.
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Now, the doubling doesn't look like it's actually that big a deal until you get to the second half of the chessboard and then you see the hockey stick type growth going straight up.
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And so the argument that a lot of these AI companies are saying is, hey, we've been on this gradual progression.
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over the past few years.
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And now we're approaching the second half of the chessboard where every change that we make, when we double from one square of the chessboard to the next, the change is greater than the sum of all previous changes that came before it.
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And so the idea of recursive self-improvement is AI that is actually improving itself.
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Not that humans are improving it and training it, but AI is training itself.
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And it can do so much faster,
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And therefore, the abilities and capabilities that these AI tools are going to have are supposedly going to increase exponentially.
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That is at least the argument that Amadei is making.
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So recursive self-improvement, again, meaning that models build themselves.
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And then there was also the OpenAI hugging face incident, which I, for the life of me, do not understand why people are freaking out about this.
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Because if you follow it, a lot of the recent news out there...
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a big reason why this happened is because of human negligence.
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Now, I'm not saying that these AI agents didn't in some way coordinate, bypass security, but the main reason why all this happened is because of human negligence.
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Humans made mistakes in securing these agents in, in certain technical things that they did and the agents took advantage of it.
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But had the humans done a better job of securing these,
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these agents, not leaving their potential authentication, either it was tokens or APIs out there on the web for these agents to access, this probably wouldn't have happened.
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So I think people are talking about this as if AI is sentient, it had a motive, it went out there and hacked these things.
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Again, a large part of this was as a result of human error.
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I won't get into the whole like detail of the hugging face thing.
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I covered it in previous episodes.
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Lots of people have also covered it in far better detail than I'm able to who have, you know, technical knowledge on how these things are built and created, et cetera.
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But again, human error was a large cause here.
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Now, again, OpenAI not going public this year because of the safety work that Sam Altman says they need to do.
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And he said, quote, I actually think that given everything happening with safety right now, or everything happening with safety right now would be an ill-advised moment to go public.
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And we don't feel pressure on that.
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Okay, you remember the anthropic researcher, Jacob Coxon, again, some entry-level, maybe low-mid-level employee, came out of nowhere, worked at the company for six weeks,
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And just the whole background here, the connection between the OpenAI, I'm sorry, the Anthropic Founders and Effective Altruism, which is a company that basically says, you know, make as much money as you want, give everything to charity.
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They have this culture of doomerism embedded in them, and they are very connected to the founders.
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In fact, I believe it was some of these people who gave some of the initial rounds of funding to the Anthropic Founders.
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So there's just a lot of weird...
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I don't know, you want to call it conspiracy theories, just weird connections, weird things that are going on behind the scenes.
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All of a sudden this guy comes out, nobody's heard of him, no social media presence, Wall Street Journal's publishing things before his posts even go out.
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It just looks very coordinated, very planned, very, I don't know, very artificial.
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I'm not saying there isn't perhaps some sense of legitimacy to it.
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Maybe it's all real, I don't know.
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But it
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And a lot of people are pointing that out.
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It just feels a little bit weird.
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Several bills are already moving as a result of this.
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some, you know, Bernie Sanders came out.
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I think he said he wants to put a bill on banning super intelligence.
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And you can fact check me on this, but I think he said something along the lines of he wanted to put either, I believe it was a 20 year prison sentence on people who are going to pursue super intelligence if it gets banned.
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I believe that's what he said.
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You see people coming out and saying they want to ban it.
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They want to halt it.
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Stop the data centers.
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Stop all of this stuff.
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I think that's the wrong approach personally.
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Again, Trump came out.
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He said he saw all these signs.
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He says a lot of these things are exaggerated.
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There are negative forces that are making claims out there about things that won't happen.
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And by the way, we should also point out these types of claims have been made about all sorts of things over the years.
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Whether you look at cars, whether you look at the atomic bomb, whether you look at CRISPR and gene editing, whether you look at, I mean, anything.
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There's always been this sense of doomerism around anything and everything that we create, any kind of innovation.
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So this is not new.
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It's also important to point out that I don't think any of the claims or the predictions that OpenAI or Anthropic have made have come to fruition.
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They've talked about reaching super intelligence.
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And I don't remember the year when they said it was going to be, but that seems to be off base.
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They said that we were going to have 10% to 20% unemployment.
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That didn't seem to come to fruition.
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They talked about white collar jobs getting decimated.
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That didn't happen.
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They talked about computer degrees and AI writing 90% of code.
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We're not going to need computer scientists and engineers anymore.
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That didn't happen.
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Literally none of the predictions that any of these...
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founders or leaders of these companies have made have come to fruition.
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So you don't have a lot of credibility.
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A lot of people are not trusting these companies because, I mean, what's there to trust?
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On the one hand, you tell me you're making something that's going to take out, you know, end humanity.
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Flip-flopping here.
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I mean, it's all over the map.
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How are you supposed to trust these companies?
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And again, I'm going to get to a tweet that David
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shared recently, which I think is spot on how a lot of people are thinking and how they are feeling about this.
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So let's also not forget that I mentioned this, the Anthropic IPO, $2 trillion.
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It would be the largest IPO in corporate history.
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And Anthropic is billing itself as the safety company.
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So a lot of people are out there, and I believe some of this too, that these companies are out there saying, look, we are the only company in the world, Anthropics specifically, we are the AI safety company.
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And it was funny because, again, I think it was David Sachs a week or a couple days ago who said, well, surely if you think that your company is going to end humanity, you cannot be allowed to IPO, right?
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Surely you're going to delay your IPO.
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So you see, on the one hand, you're saying, hey, we're making something that could potentially end humanity.
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at a historic valuation, and only we can stop this thing that we're creating from taking over the world.
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So we are both the creator of the problem and the solution of the problem.
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It just feels and sounds a little bit weird.
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So the futurist lens here.
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There are lots of, you know, there are lots of potential things that AI can do, but there are lots of potential things that anything can do.
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The nuke.
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Sure, that's fine.
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But if you're going to say that something you're creating is going to lead to the end of humanity, you need to give some sort of proof here.
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Something.
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Around the edge of, the end of, how is humanity going to end?
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They're going to hack into our water supply.
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How is the end of humanity happening?
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I mean, I'm over here trying to connect
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Claude and ChatGPT to edit a YouTube video, and you're over there talking about the end of humanity.
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How do we get from there to the other place?
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I still get the occasional, although it's getting much better, admittedly, the occasional hallucination, the occasional like weird thing in AI.
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I'm trying to just connect basic stuff over here, and you're talking about these AI tools that are going to
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in the coming years, wipe out planet Earth?
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If you're going to paint a picture and tell me that the world is going to end, you need to tell me how.
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Like if I tell you, hey, look at this.
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This thing here in the next two to three years is going to end all human life on Earth.
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I'm not going to tell you how.
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You just got to believe me.
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You're gonna look at me and say, what the hell are you talking about, Jacob?
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And that's sort of the feeling that a lot of people are getting.
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Walk me through the scenario of how this is going to happen.
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Okay, so let's break down a few things here.
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Okay, so one of them,
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I already talked about the IPO, what this is going to do to their valuation, the narrative, the story.
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A second one.
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Fixed costs are a very powerful weapon against competitors.
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So when you permanently tell everybody that you have to embed third-party costs,
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with evaluators with employee level access inside of an organization to evaluate AI tools, a company with thousands of employees worth tens of billions of dollars, you can absorb that cost.
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You have the resources, you have the tools, you have everything you need to do that.
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If I'm a startup, I have four people, 10 people, 50 people.
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A multi-billion dollar company with thousands of employees.
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I don't have the resources.
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I don't have the ability to make any necessary changes that you need.
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are able to.
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These companies are going to sit on the potential governing the body that's going to shape AI policy going forward and set rules and restrictions and policies that other people are not going to be able to follow.
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Therefore, they're going to be the judge, so to speak, the jury and the CEO at the same time.
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And you're going to lock in only two, three, I don't know, let's say two to five companies that sit at the very top who run all of this stuff and nobody else is going to be able to compete with them.
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I have the resources.
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I'm worth trillions of dollars.
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I can make any of these changes and do whatever I want.
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You're a small up and coming AI shop.
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This is why there's a big debate between open source and closed source.
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Why OpenAI, I'm sorry, not OpenAI, NVIDIA, bought Hugging Face for I believe it was $13 billion.
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Open source is going to be a big competitor to these closed source models.
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Okay, another reason why I think this is happening.
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This essay that Dario put out, I think is also a legal document.
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And before I go into this, I want to read this post from David Sachs.
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I'll put it up here on the screen as well.
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And it's really worth paying attention to everything that David says here.
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And this post got 9 million views, over 3,000 comments.
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I was one of the people that commented or I think re-shared it.
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Okay, so here's the post from David Sachs, the former AI and crypto czar.
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Quote, Dario has written that we need to pace the frontier, and Sam has agreed.
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People may be surprised by my response.
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Go ahead.
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You guys are the frontier.
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By any reasonable metric, market share, revenue growth, model capability, the two of you have a duopoly on frontier intelligence.
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You've also claimed the lead is widening because of recursive self-improvement.
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I don't see what you see in the lab, but if the unreleased models are scary enough that you think you should slow down, I support your decision to be responsible.
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But stop pretending you need anyone else's permission.
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Stop pretending antitrust law has to be suspended so you can form a cartel.
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Stop pretending you need a regulatory approval process that supersedes product liability.
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Stop pretending you need a regulatory approval process that supersedes product liability.
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Stop pretending meter is independent when it's intertwined with Anthropics investors and staff.
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And meter, M-E-T-R, M-E-T-R, all caps, is one of these third-party evaluators.
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So he's saying stop pretending that meter is independent when it's intertwined with Anthropics investors and staff.
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Stop pretending you need those same evaluators to police competitors who aren't even at the frontier.
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Most of all, stop pretending the motivation to slow down is purely altruistic.
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You face massive product liability exposure if your products enable a truly damaging cyber attack.
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The market already punishes models that behave in unpredictable and or unauthorized ways.
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After the hugging face episode, it is simply good business for OpenAI and Anthropic to trade some raw power for reliability and predictability.
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Call it alignment if you want.
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It's also giving customers what they want.
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Pacing the frontier would also create breathing room for a more intelligent conversation about regulation than Bernie Sanders' shut it all down.
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China is very unlikely to join a global agreement, as you know, and that has to be taken into account as well.
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So go ahead and pace the frontier.
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You are the ones setting it.
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The easiest way not to build superintelligence is for you to agree not to build it.
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Demanding your preferred regulatory framework as the price of that will look like blackmail of the public and the political system.
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So just do it.
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If you do, you'll buy goodwill for the next conversation.
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If you don't, we'll know this was just another bid for regulatory capture or an election season psyop.
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Now, whether you agree with David Sachs, whether you agree with Republicans or Democrats, either side here, I think David Sachs' post is a good one.
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It's worth reading that.
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And I think that come the 2028 elections, this is going to be, crazy to say, one of the biggest problems.
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conversations of debate for the next presidential election.
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I mean, imagine where the models are going to be in two years from now.
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What version of Claude, what version of ChatGPT we're going to be on.
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This is going to be, I think, one of the hottest, and this is, again, assuming things carry on course,
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This is going to be one of the hottest and biggest topics of debate going forward.
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Which is very, it's crazy to think about.
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With all the stuff happening in the world, I think this is going to be front and center.
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These are all, I think, very, very important points.
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And I had a few other points here that I was going to talk about, but David Sachs highlighted them all in that post that I read.
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Again, a legal document for liability.
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The antitrust thing David Sachs talked about.
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The marketing claim, our software might end the world is a very powerful marketing claim.
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So this is the state of things now.
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I sit on the side where, and again, I don't have access to these labs.
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I don't see what they see.
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But from what I have observed as an outsider, I stand on the side of David Sachs, which is, and Alex Karp and all these people, don't regulate, full speed ahead with AI, but,
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I think there's a lot of weird shady stuff going on in the background.
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Maybe they're peaking.
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Maybe they're already getting to a level.
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It's kind of like approaching the speed of light.
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You can never travel the speed of light, but you can get potentially 99.999999999999% of the way there.
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But you can never actually get it.
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So maybe there is something going on here where these companies might be slowing down.
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Maybe revenue is slowing down.
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Maybe capability might be slowing down.
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Maybe they're, and again, I have no insider knowledge on this, but this is one theory that I've seen floated around.
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Maybe they're getting to a point where it's like, hey, we're like, you know, maybe we're peaking at a point.
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So let's tell everybody we need to slow down because we are actually slowing down.
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Lots of theories out there, lots of ideas out there around why this is happening.
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Whether it's capability slowing down, whether it's the regulatory capture piece.
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whether it's the influence from effective altruism.
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But I just have a very hard time buying the end of the world scenario when I don't see evidence of the end of the world scenario.
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I don't see data.
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I don't see examples.
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Jensen Huang is coming out there, the CEO of NVIDIA, saying this is all complete BS.
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There's just a lot of strange stuff happening.
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So again, we will see how this plays out.
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But I'm on team humanity, but also let's maximize AI in a way to unlock human potential.
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This is, I think, a potential massive boost for the US economy across the board.
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And so for me, the idea of slowing down seems pretty crazy, especially when your adversaries are only going to be speeding up.
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And who knows, maybe we'll see something come out in the coming weeks and months that'll change everybody's mind.
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Then maybe there was this crazy hack or story or I don't know what, showing that AI is plotting and scheming and working behind the scenes and developing sentience.
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Some alien life.
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I don't know if something like that comes out, maybe I'll change my mind.
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But I don't know, nobody's seen that.
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So the political side of this, the economic side of this, the technology side, the capability side of it, everything is becoming intertwined into like one big ball of mush.
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But it's still a fascinating story.
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You know, there's the Sam Altman documentary, Artificial, not documentary, movie that's coming out called Artificial.
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Anyway, I will stop there with the AI stuff
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Now, the second story building on that, Oracle announcing a new round of layoffs.
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According to three people affected and a notification email shared with Business Insider, the email told employees their role was eliminated as a part of a broader organizational change and that today is your last working day.
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So they are, I don't know if the announcements, the layoffs were officially announced, but these are the rumors of people who are getting some emails already that some teams are already being reduced potentially by double digit growths.
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Growths, growth by double digits.
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I mean, it's already on Business Insider as well.
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Let's see if they have any specific numbers on here.
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Yeah, I don't see anything specific from Oracle yet, but employees are getting the announcements that these are happening.
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A lot of people are seeing thousands of employees.
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Oracle already cut 21,000 employees this year.
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And I haven't seen anything around what that exact number is.
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what's really happening here is that Oracle is needing to fund a almost $100 billion construction program, and its cash flow is not able to do it.
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They borrowed tens of billions of dollars already, and I think the leadership team at Oracle is looking around, and they're saying, hey, wait a minute, we're coming up a little bit short.
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We got to let go of some people here.
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Payroll is always the biggest expense.
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Headcount is always the biggest expense.
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And so Oracle is essentially making a trade of people versus concrete, versus wires and pipes and electricity, funding and building these data centers.
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It's AI CapEx displacement is essentially what it is.
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And I think that this is potentially for some of these companies going to be a far larger driver of job loss than AI.
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In other words, the building of the AI, literally the building, the investing in the data centers to be able to generate better models, that is going to be the biggest cause of layoffs.
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Not actually an AI agent replacing a person.
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Which again, is a weird thing to be thinking about.
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You're being let go, not because AI is taking your job, but because we need to build, literally build a building.
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And I think that's what's happening with Oracle.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Meta followed suit.
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These seem to be the two companies that have been going back and forth, trading layoffs, making these massive investments.
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As far as I know, I haven't heard much around layoffs from...
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Nvidia, you don't really hear much about this.
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And maybe there has been, I haven't heard from Amazon.
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So this is kind of the breaking story of the day that Oracle is going to be letting go of thousands of potential employees.
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And they're a massive company, but again, they're also one of the companies that are leading the AI investment.
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I think around a hundred billion dollars.
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Last story of the day that I wanted to get to.
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Fortune published a article a couple of days ago.
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I think this was Saturday or Sunday, which I think is very interesting, making the argument for civic education as an argument for workforce preparedness.
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And civic education is the idea of,
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The rights, the duties, the responsibilities that you have as an individual, as a citizen of a society, of a country.
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What are your responsibilities?
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So as a parent, you have responsibilities.
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As a member of your community, you have responsibilities.
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What are your responsibilities as a citizen of the United States of America, if that is where you are based?
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your rights, your duties, your responsibilities, the role that you play.
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And so the authors are Hillary Crow, vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation, and Ashley Berner, director of the Johns Hopkins Institute for Education Policy.
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And they organize and research the National Civics Bee.
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Only 22% of eighth graders in the United States are proficient in civics.
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According to the most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress, only 18% of business leaders believe entry-level hires are ready for today's workforce.
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I'm going to repeat that.
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Only 18% of business leaders believe that entry-level hires are ready for today's workforce.
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which means that these business leaders believe that 82%, they believe that 82% of entry-level employees are not ready for today's workforce.
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That's crazy.
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Most states now require a single civics course.
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and often only one semester, which is down from the 1960s when high schools required three courses in civics and government.
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One-third of high schoolers offered debate teams.
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I'm sorry, one-third of high schools offered debate teams.
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One-quarter offer mock trials, and 20% offer mock elections.
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Okay.
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2022 Rand Corporation report on K-5 social studies described a missing infrastructure that has gaps in policies, resources, and required testing that would encourage civics instruction in the early grades.
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I mean, this is wild stuff.
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Now, the futurist lens here.
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Not in.
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On October 4th, 1957, you will, well, you probably won't remember, but you will have heard that the Soviet Union launched Sputnik.
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My family is from the former Soviet Union, former USSR from the Republic of Georgia.
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Well, my grandmother from Ukraine.
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My parents both born in the Republic of Georgia in Belisi.
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So in 1957, they launched Sputnik.
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And this was, I think it was the size of a beach ball, you know, launched into space, metal sphere.
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Americans went nuts.
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Like, oh my God, the Soviets are doing this.
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And 11 months later, Congress passed something called the National Defense Education Act.
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And this poured a lot of federal money into science, into mathematics, foreign languages, and...
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And the whole idea behind this was that the Cold War could actually be won in the classroom.
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And this is the, you can think of it as the kind of ancestor of STEM, science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
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Which is, you know, my son, both my kids are really interested in that kind of stuff now.
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And if you look at what teenagers said when they were asked, what is going to matter in an AI economy?
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They said, working with other people, checking whether things are true, making sense of complicated information.
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None of these things are things that you can hand over to a machine.
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Like understanding how decisions get made.
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You know, these human skills, I think, are going to have such a massive premium placed on them.
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Like somebody told me, oh, you know, you're a speaker.
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Maybe your business is going to get, you know, taken over by AI.
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I don't think so.
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I think there's still a lot of demand, a lot of need, a lot of want for human beings.
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Connect with human beings, learn from human beings.
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So, I don't know, maybe I'm too optimistically naive.
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But I think a lot of the human stuff is actually going to have a massive premium behind it.
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And I actually really like the case for civic education in schools.
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I think it's really important for kids, for adults to understand the history of America or whatever country you're from.
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I actually went to the library, not the library, the bookstore the other day, and I wanted to get a book on Georgia, on the Republic of Georgia, because I realized it's where my family is from, but I don't really actually know a lot about, I mean, I know a little bit.
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I don't know a lot about the history of the Republic of Georgia.
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And I went to the library, again, not the library, the bookstore, and I said, do you have any books on the history of Georgia?
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They didn't have a single book.
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So of course, I'm on Amazon looking about all these different books about Georgia that I want to read.
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But my daughter, she wanted a lanyard kit to make lanyards.
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And I said, okay, well, in our house, the currency that we use as rewards is reading.
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And so I said, okay, I'll get you this lanyard kit.
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It's not expensive.
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It's maybe like 20, 25 bucks.
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I said, okay, if you want this lanyard kit, you have to read this book.
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And it was a kid's book about the Declaration of Independence.
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It had nice drawings in there.
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It was a great, great book.
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And so she learned about the Declaration of Independence.
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She learned, you know, the history behind it, the sacrifices that were made, the people that were behind it.
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And it was actually written by Neil Gorsuch.
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And the book is called Heroes of 1776, The Story of the Declaration of Independence.
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And I said, read this book, I'll get you a lanyard kit.
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So I think this idea of teaching civics is great.
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I have no problem with it.
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I try to talk about this stuff with my kids all the time.
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And now after seeing this stat, I'm going to make more of an effort to talk specifically about civics with my kids when we have dinner together.
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Because I think it's an important article.
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But it's also crazy that leaders think that 82% of entry-level employees are not ready for the workforce.
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That to me is a freaky statistic.
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It's pretty crazy.
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So those were the main stories that I wanted to get to today.
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I know I spent a lot of time on the AI story at the beginning, but I think it's pretty fascinating to see what's going on there.
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Obviously, the Oracle layoffs.
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Also interesting to see how organizations like Oracle are trading people for things like construction materials.
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And this idea of civics, I think it's interesting on two parts.
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One, teaching civics, and also the fact that so many business leaders think entry-level employees are not ready to enter the workplace.
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