FKN Classics Double Feature! Susan Bradford - Hijacked History | MR Gorga - Demons/Possession

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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
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I want to welcome Susan Bradford. She is a writer, author,
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and public speaker who provides commentary and analysis on foreign policy,
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real politic, and the agendas of the deep state. Her
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books are dedicated to pulling back the curtain on corruption
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within government and financial institutions to help restore integrity to
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the republic. She has written and ghosts written many books
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and articles, and appeared on the BBC Podcasts, radio programs
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and a documentary on The Great Reset. Susan, Welcome, How
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you doing.
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Hi, Chris doing very well. Thank you, Thank you for
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so much for inviting me to speak with you today.
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Yes, I've been looking forward to this show, and when
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I look at all the possibilities of how we've been
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manipulated and deceived as a human race, our reality really
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becomes far stranger than any work of fiction and existence
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I believed, you know, from hijack countries, cultures, religions and
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history to fabricated timelines that really could completely rewrite our
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existence on this planet. It's extremely fascinating and I'm looking
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forward to Your work is really awesome, but this is
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your first time on. I'd love it if you could
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tell us what opened your eyes to this hidden reality
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and what got you started down your path.
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Sure, So I started off wanting to be a reporter
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to you kind of have a to be on to
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be a witness of history. So I worked for a reporter.
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I worked for CBS News and for City News Service
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in Los Angeles, and then I wanted to take I
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wanted to focus more on international relations because after I
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gradual waited from college, UH, the world was kind of
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moving more towards globalism and the European Union was kind
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of coming together, and it was being billed as a
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common market that would be like a template for all
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of the other common markets in the world and would
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eventually be you know, integrated together into one global system.
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So I thought, if I really want to be you know,
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a well versed foreign correspondent and journalists, I need to
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know what's happening there. So I did my graduate work
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at the University of Essex, concentrating UH on European integration.
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I earned a Masters in the International relations and while
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I was there, I got the opportunity to to kind
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of look at or to travel to the to the
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European institutions like European Parliament, European Commission. I got to
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meet with and interact with the diplomats and the heads
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of state. Uh And I founded a publication called the
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European Review, which brought together leaders who were who were
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discussing various aspects of European integration. I know it's a
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long stories, I'll kind of speed up a little bit.
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So after working in Europe and becoming very acclimated in
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European integration, I came back to the United States worked
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for Fox News and for a few other news organizations.
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Uh And, but my eyes really got open to like
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this deception when I began working on the Abramoff investigation.
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Are you familiar with that?
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It might be?
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I know, it happened quite a few years.
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Ago, you know, Yeah, I am. But if for the audience,
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if you could kind of refresh what that was about.
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Okay. So, the Abramoff investigation was one of the most
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far reaching corruption probes. It focused on super lobbyists by
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the name of Jack Abramoth for his alleged corruption within
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Indian country. He was over billing Indian tribes that they
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said and taking advanta of you know vulnerable native people.
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So I UH worked on the investigation because I was
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able to see that his voice was omitted UH from
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the overall the investigation. So I wanted to see what
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his perspective was. And when I began to research the story,
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I realized I discovered that the the aprahm Off scandal
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had been entirely manufactured. This was a man who did
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not commit the crimes that he was alleged to commit.
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I mean, I had the paper work that showed him
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that he hadn't.
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UH.
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The lies were fed by lobbyists, two reporters who UH
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then ran with them a PR firm, marketed the guilt,
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his guilt to the nation, and then the Senate leaders
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went right along and held hearings with UH witnesses, who
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were then advised by the lobbyists and so forth. So
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I saw then that every aspect of of what happens
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on Capitol Hill, every aspect of power, is bought and
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paid for. So the news isn't necessarily what it appears
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to be. That there are there are a lot of
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very powerful special interests that want to shape our reality
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for some other private gain. And so once I began
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to realize that Abramof had been set up. I wanted
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to know why the entire political establishment went along with it.
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And that's when I discovered that the deep state had
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been orchestrated and pushed into the United States through the
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back doors of American Indian tribes. And I'm talking about
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defense contracting, carleisvel Group, ai g CIA, homeland security. Even
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the different financial issues like this savings and loan scandals
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all had their origins in Indian country. And that was
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the means through which international bankers and foreign interests were
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actually projecting communism and socialism to the United States. So
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that's kind of what set me down, you know, the
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rabbit hole, if you will, to kind of, you know,
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find out more, a little more, and then to communicate
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that to the people, to share that with the people.
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Man, the depth of lies and deception, it's unbelievable to me,
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the more I look at it and the more I
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learn about our real history. Now speaking about that, when
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it comes to the hijacking of our reality, this is
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gonna be like a multi part question. When did this occur,
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Where did this occur, who is behind this, and how
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did it occur? You can break this down in any
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way you want.
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Okay, So it starts with actually rewriting our history, redefining
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who we are, what we believe in. So how far
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how far back does it go? I historically we can
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go back to the Roman Empire, but I don't know,
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we don't have time to go back that far. So
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I'm going to put the point at maybe it's the
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era of the Rational Enlightenment. That was the period when
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the Vatican and the international bankers of the Jesuits, the Rothschilds,
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and Central Asian rulers were kind of colluding and they're
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working together to create a new world order in which
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they held all the wealth and power within their own hands.
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So Confucism, it was the basis of that. That's you know,
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Chinese philosophy. And what Confucism meant is that or what
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one of the key tenants is that you could exploit grievances,
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like manufactured grievances, and then you know that somebody has
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some type of privilege that has denied another person. So
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through the politics of envy, you can then upset the
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status quote, grab that the targets wealth and power, and
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then and then you know, leave the status quo as
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it is and so you life then becomes a series
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of revolutions and wars each time based upon grievances each time,
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where you reorganize society, uh and like the power and
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wealth under your own elt. But in order to do that,
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you have to continue to reshape reality. You have to create,
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you know, portray leaders as legitimate when they're not. You
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have to condition the children to kind of reject the
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values of their parents with each new generation. So this
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was a tactic that they've been employing. Uh, they've been
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they've employed it from the founding of our country where
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they kind of misrepresented our values. The reasons for why
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we went to war, there are reasons of who was
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behind it, who stood to gain. And then I think
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after the World Wars, we then went down this this
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trajectory where uh, the United States was fully brought into
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international intrigue and then there was this agenda that was
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put in place for them to kind of reshape our reality.
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And that was the point at which these shadow corporations,
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shadow bankers were coalescing power within their own hands. They
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had like they they were controlled through interlocking boards of directors,
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and then they forged like uh, private part private public partnerships.
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So what that meant is that they would rely upon
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the federal government for money. Uh and then the which
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the taxpayer would have to you know, would be obligated
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to pay. And then they would continue to kind of
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build their monopolies with the help of the federal government,
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you know, which would protect their their markets, would eliminate
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competition for them, would create regulations or laws that would
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that would you know, shore up their market share. And
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uh So, from like the World War World Wars onward,
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you saw this corporation kind of launch, these corporations and
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international bankers launching an agenda where they wanted to pursue
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public policy for private gain. That meant expanding the federal
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bureaucracy and then putting more money into uh like to
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the university. And with the government funding came an agenda.
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They were working with Hollywood because Hollywood was created in
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hand in hand with the intelligence networks. Intelligence networks helped
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guide us into war, help manage the wars. So they
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found out that Hollywood could be used a shape reality
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to condition us into kind of accepting policies that they wanted,
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our values that they wanted us to embrace. And you know,
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with sports teams. You have like so much money that
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is being given to these groups through you know, contracts
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and partnerships that they're able to, you know, buy up
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sports teams and buy up assets where they control the
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leavers of power. And then they have an interest, bested
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interest in kind of ensuring that nobody can challenge that power.
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So this gradually, like every aspect of society, they kind
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of worked ensure that they work in lockstep with each
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other to reinforce their power, their positions, and to make
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it next to impossible for anybody to challenge them because
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you know, they're looking for ultimately dictatorship.
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Wow, October, you have any questions before we move on?
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I have a thousand. I could talk to Susan for
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like hours and hours. But you know, I first heard
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of Tartaria on Chris's show I'm going to Save Us
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six months ago. And don't ask me who was talking
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about it, because I couldn't tell you. But I'm a
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history major and I graduate in a couple of months,
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and I found it fascinating. And that's because there's a
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lot of things in history that you know, we looked
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at and studied and and I realized, you know, about
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midway through my college education when I really started, you know,
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going down this rabbit hole that a lot of things
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that we've been told are not true and they've been
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either reconstructed, deconstructed, and restructured for us to either believe
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them or get us all kind of on that same page.
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So I'm doing a little research this morning and perission
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to talk to you, and I mean, bam, I mean,
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you don't have to be a brain surgeon to like realize. Okay,
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So this is what I found. Trataria Tartarian there were
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tablets that were discovered in a Neolithic village in Romania
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in nineteen sixty one. Now, they can't be carbon dated
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because of the I guess the materials that they're on,
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but they're dated. They speculate to about fifty three hundred BC.
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Because of the markings that were on these tablets. Okay,
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some historians and archaeologists relate them to Samerian. Some of
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them think that, you know, they're Proto. They're called Proto
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Cuneiform tablets, and they were also also jewelry and clay
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figures found in the stake in Romania. Now I'm going
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to fast forward a little bit as a story, and
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now I've heard the World's Fair in eighteen ninety three
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in Chicago was basically an attempt to completely, you know,
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wash the slate clean of Tartaria all together. Now, what's
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interesting is that there were four architects that designed the
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World fairs major buildings. They called it the White City.
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They were all white facades and everything. And this is
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what cracks me up. Okay, because I do not like Columbus.
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I'm not a big fan. Obviously, I'm not going to
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go into why, but obviously I could tell you. I
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could talk to hours about that. But so John Wilbourne Route,
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Daniel Bernman, Frederick law Olmstead and Charles b Outwood were
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the four architects that designed it. And guess what they designed.
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They designed a neolithic village, Okay, because of its symmetry,
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beauty and architectural style. Now, why would they pick a
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neolithic era to design buildings for an eighteen ninety three
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World's Fair.
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That's a very good question, because I'm sure there are
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many reasons for it. But the source of the power
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and like the from which the royal families to control
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our world draw is from Tartaria. So they appreciate that architecture.
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I really didn't go into a lot, but the ancient
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Central Asian rulers, they claim that their history goes back
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like over a million years, that they had access to
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ancient technologies and that they were able to create art
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like like where beautiful statues and and uh, architecture where
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they can just it's like a printing machine like they
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can like in print you know where it would take us,
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you know a lot of time to actually.
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Like a three D printing machine kind of like they did.
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That they claim to have had. And so for them,
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that way they're able to make this beautiful architecture.
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Now, before we get too far, was was Tartaria kind
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of like this global more advanced civilization. Uh maybe had
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their their their ship together a little bit better than
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we do what was targe in a nutshell?
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Okay, So there are many aspects to it. Uh, the
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part I focus on is how the Deep State traces
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to it. Tartaria was a part of Central Asia. There
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are many different tribes of people. There was like giants,
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there were little people. There were people who are Caucasian
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even though they're living in Central Asia many different like
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different tribes and and and different customs. And so these
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were the groups that we're trading with, the Black nobility,
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which are the Italian merchants and the Vatican. So I
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had the area encompassing Central Asia.
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I do have a question about that too. Central Asia. Now,
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for a long time, uh, historians and archaeologists the United
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States said that we, you know, we are basically Asian, right,
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the first peoples of the United States came over the
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Bearing straight during the frozen you know ice age, right,
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and and so so that was one of my questions honestly,
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was you know, our native first people here are supposedly
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ancestors of Asian decent of people. So then so that
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if I follow that train of thought as a historian
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with the people and our first peoples in America, I
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mean their origin stories and their history, there are a
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lot of similarities I find with the Tartararian and research
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that I've done, would you say that they're also Tartarian
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and that's why they've been trying to be wiped out,
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because you know, the elite didn't want their stories told
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or their history told.
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That's interesting, Yes, they are from Central Asia and That's
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part of the reason that the communist Chinese believe that
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they own North America, because they're saying, look, it's you know,
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we were here first. You know, we were the first Americans.
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I think the reason that they were being wiped out
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is for a different reason. The elite all they want
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money and power, and in order to get that you
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have to sometimes how they would approach it is to
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exterminate the populations. So within the context of the Native Americans,
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the Rockefellers set up the federally recognized Indian tribes like
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they were corralled onto land rich in oil and mineral rights.
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In order to extract those mineral rights and take that
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the money for the federal government that is reserved Indians,
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you've got to the Indians aren't gonna allow that, You've
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got to kind of beat them down. And so that
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there's always been some type of agenda to kind of
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eradicate or to oppress the Indians because they're sitting on
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really trillions of dollars in natural resources. You know that
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a lot of Elis want their hands on.
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But do you think that do you think that Tartarians?
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I mean, if we root in history and we go
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way way back to when they were thriving. Do you
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think that they are directly related to our first people?
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I don't think so. I mean there were different and
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I know that there was some Tartarian architecture found in
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North America that their predates even the founding of our country.
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But the Native Americans were more like they're they were indigenous,
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and so you found within Tartaria, like there were some
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groups that were like like the nomad the Mongolians. They
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had beautiful uh houses and and and architecture, but but
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they were agricultural. They were kind of passive, and they
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were more like to but they weren't They weren't really
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industrious in the sense that that we would we would
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call it. So I think that the Natives would maybe
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be from like the kind of the Asiatic peoples, but
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there were also a lot of like European types and
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other tribes that were more likely to have built the architecture.
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I sorry, Chris, can I ask one more question, how
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far do you estimate? Well, actually it's two part question.
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How far do you estimate that tartarian goes back? And
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are they directly descendant or related to Atlanteans.
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That's a good question. I can tell you from the vanity,
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like what I read from the Vatican archives and Vatican
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documents from like Jesuits who went to Tartaria. They the
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Central Asian leaders believe that they go back over a
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million years. The Mongolian empire extended all the way to
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the Antarctic, and that's where allegedly there are some underground
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you know, basis and advanced technology. And they also claimed too,
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like there's like a hell area of Hell that's demonic
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and that this area has a lot of advanced technology.
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So there is a train of thought that is that
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there is some Atlanteans had acquired this advanced technology. They
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were benevolent, but there was a satanic element that then
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destroyed Atlanta's and took the technology and then used it
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for more in the various purposes. But I haven't really
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studied Atlantis as such, but that's kind of the train
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of thought.
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I mean, it sounds to me where the elites would
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have been born out of then like that pool of
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the split, where it went from this ancient advance somewhat
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utopian society to fractionalize, destroyed parts of it, erased history,
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rewritten histories, per se it takes over. And then because
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I'm I'm a history and I'm all about chronological timelines.
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I like things like to line up, right, So this this,
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you know, this goes like this. There's no like a
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great like chronological line that we can trace, right, So
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it is incasing for somebody who's got a brain like mine,
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who's been structured around academia and you know, the scientific method.
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And then I look at this and I'm like, well,
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where's the proof. And then i start, you know, digging back,
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and I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense. That doesn't
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make sense. That does And then that's why I'm asking
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these questions. I mean, I'm always thinking that the rath
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Childs and the Magi Cheese and the Renaissance are either
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connected or related. And I haven't done any research behind that,
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but I say that because the Medichi were really the
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precursors for the Enlightenment. I mean, they were the ones
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who were bringing out of the dark Ages, even through
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the Renaissance and the humanist movement more about you know, power,
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power within oneself and your purpose of life is in
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your own hands kind of thing, and kind of took
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the power out of the church right at that time,
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and it started, you know, with the science, you know,
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because Leonardo and Davindu was much more than just an artist, right,
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he was an amazing scientist. So I'm wondering, really if
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it goes back to even then where like these families
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really took a stronghold throughout Europe and eventually trickled through
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the United States once we you know, became a country.
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Okay, so I know you're interested in a timeline. So
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the timeline that I followed is that with the Roman Empire,
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that the Roman Empire was established, like the you know,
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you have a D and B c. Before Christ a
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Domini the year of our Lord or after his death,
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Jesus Christ established a divine right to rule that was
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a a country under God. So with through Jesus, if
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you held the sacred bloodline, if you're initiated, you could
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you could rule because you would be you know, a Christian.
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Those who opposed that were these like Medici's or the Venetians.
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These merchants, maritime merchants who traveled into Tartaria and into
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the Central Asia. They wanted to establish monopolies. They drew
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upon the Egyptian mystery schools, you know, which is very
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rational or Aristotle. And they're also drawing upon Confucism, like
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the principles of Confucism. So as they established monopolies, they
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partnered with UH mercenary groups like their their army and
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those that be like the Kusars, the Mongols, the Turks.
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So as they began to UH to establish their monopolies,
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they then they wanted to UH have control of the
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Church because the Church ultimately determined to rule. It was
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through Jesus. That's how the Vatican came into being, except
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that they they established it through Saint Peter, you know,
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Saint Peters upon this land, you know, you know, you know,
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you shall build a church. He was the first to
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recognize Jesus. So the Vatican was controlled by you can
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say that the mafia, by these black nobility, black uh
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black mobility, by these merchant families. And then they began
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using the rapt Enlightenment to overthrow Christian monarchs because the
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Christian monarchs have the divine right to rule. They wanted
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to be God on earth. So as they continued moving
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into Central Asia, they fomented their own revolutions to kind
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of reorganize more of the Central Asian power under their control.
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They saw that these Mongols, for example, had a pony
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express or post system that served as a nation intelligence
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where they could spy on on their competition, and they
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could kind of use that intelligence to to establish markets
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and to establish monopolies and control.
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So it almost sounds like corporate espionage, you know what
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we consider now corporate espionage. I mean, but you know,
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obviously cleaned out a couple of thousand years ago or
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a thousand yeutes ago, but it sounds like, you know,
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and it's it's very Macaveelian, right, It's like the the
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the ends will always justify the means, no matter what
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you have to do to get power and stay in power,
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because I mean, that's the that's the prince right by
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back of alien. That's pretty much the gist of the book.
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So that's why I'm wondering, Like the Medici and the
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raw I just thought maybe somewhere along the line they
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kind of, you know, met and then you know what
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they did.
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I was able to trace the U and you you're
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right about how Mackybellian it is in fact that they
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have the view that empathy and and any concerned for
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your fellow man is assigned a weakness. You want to
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just only think of yourself and your power and your
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self interest. So they feared and loved. There you go,
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and that's exactly right. From on the prince so roch
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child I was, I traced it back to Central Asia
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to kind of like a Mandarin family and they partnered
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with the Jesuits and these kind of powerful merchant force
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like the Venetians, the Medici's, so they go back, you know,
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hundreds of years and they had on technology like uh,
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to build silk, should create silk, which which you could
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create easily, but they only have the technology that enable
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them to sell it and you know in in Europe
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for a huge markup, and they could then easily create wealth.
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And they had they created gunpowder, so they were able
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to use that, you know, to kind of build use
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that as an advantage. But through the silk trade, like uh,
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you'll you'll find that these merchants were able to kind
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of come into Europe through the Hanseatic League. And you
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also if you follow the the textile industries, you'll see
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that's how communism also came in, because that communism was
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Confucism and that's about fomenting rebellion or you know, and
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revolution to get more of the money, more of the power,
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so they came in through that way.
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It's interesting because I know the Chinese emperor made it
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illegal and like shut down the Chinese border and made
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it a punishment by death if any kind of trade
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tickets were leaked about how they made silk and their silkworms,
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and they still manage to get it in Europe obviously,
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But it's just interesting because people like, oh, history is useless.
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It's like, no, it's not, because everything that's happening right
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now has happened before or it's been in the works
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for thousands of years. So it's it's better to know
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stuff than to like be completely oblivious to how these
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things kind of have formed over and transpired and built
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up for the last couple of thousand years. Because we're
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what's going on now. This is like a playbook. This
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isn't anything like surprising or new for somebody I don't know,
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like myself, probably are you so right?
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So that's correct, And they've been using the same playbook
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generation after generation and entirely to benefit themselves and it's
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just the same family as the same tactics, So you're
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absolutely right.
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No, sorry, Chris, No, no, no, it's fascinating. I'm glad
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we're going there now. I want to go to the
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divine right to rule versus these bloodlines, which you've done
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a lot of research into. Now, the divine right now
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to rule kills you know, could possibly go back to
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like you were discussing, before the times of Atlantis. Uh,
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you know, be pre human history that we know of. Uh,
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what about this bloodline rule? When did this first start
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coming around? And did they basically hijack the Abrahamic religions
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to to gain power?
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Yes, they did. To answer your last question, so the
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divine right to rule was established by Jesus and a
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lot of people don't know. I know it's gonna sound sacrilegious,
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but this is what you know. His history is revealing
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that Jesus actually sired a child and he was not
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he did not die in the cross. But they actually
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used that the resurrection as a way because the religions
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at the time, especially like Buddhism and other religions, promised
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eternal life, so like that you could reincarnate, so Jesus.
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The messag that Jesus had was that you'll have everlasting
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life through the father so that was kind of used
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to help kind of promote him. But he sired a
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child and that child was bred into the Roman families
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on the with the condition that those Roman families would
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become initiated to the Christian faith and they in turn
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would have the Jesus bloodline, and that's what established the
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divine right to rule, which is that God is at
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the center of society. The ruler answers to God and
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becomes a servant to the people. So that that's how
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that was established. So for a while he had monarchs
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who held the divine right to rule, and then that
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was usurped. I mean, the Rochilds have been trying to
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in the Vatican, have been trying to usurp it for
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hundreds of years. But the key point was during the
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Napoleonic Wars. That was when UH the UH the Rath
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child crashed the British stock market, and then from there
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they were able to buy breeding rights into the British
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royal family with through Queen Victorious. So from that point
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onward you had an illegitimate raw child blood line like
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the Serpent seed, and they in turn them bred themselves
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into the other European UH families throughout Europe, and they've
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since been kind of their focus has been on creating
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puppet leaders who will ultimately serve them, and they're usually
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either bloodlines or they're you know, they're severely compromised somehow.
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But when was Jesus's child infused into the Roman Empire
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of bloodline like or married into the family. When when
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what was this like.
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What that would have been? I think around the time
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of Julius Caesar. So after Julius Caesar, you've got that's
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that's the beginning of the Roman Empire. That Caesar Augustus,
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you know is he called him, I think he called
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himself the son of God. But it was like that
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that's the period. It's like, that's how you delineate history.
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It's b C.
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Before Christ and then you had the New era, which
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is a d Anodemini or after his death. So it's
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the life of Christ that that new era. Yeah, because
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I know a Caesar Augustus, I believe in it has
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reigned when he died in twenty nine AD.
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So I was just wondering because I mean Christianity itself
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really wasn't like recognized or created until some essmens are
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fifty BC. So I mean that's a that's a seventy
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five seventy nine year timeline. That's pretty tight in history,
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considering that's you know, less than a century. Yeah, I'm
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just I'm just curious. And as far as the illegitimate,
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you know, infusion into the royal family, I mean that
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what you just said to me, buying your way into
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that position sounds a lot like again the Renaissance. The Medici,
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they were you know, merchants that became you know, de
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facto rulers basically of Florence, you know, city state, which
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was what the most are, if not one of the
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most popular city states in all of Italy, which you know,
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eventually trickled throughout Europe and you know world Europe. So
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I find that really interesting that there's like a lot
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of these parallels that are happy being like simultaneously and
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then after the fact that seemed to mimic the playbook.
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I don't know, it's interesting they do.
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And it's those families with Medicia, I think, also have
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a lot of connection with the Vatican, and they wanted
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what Jesus offered, and that was they wanted the ability
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to point rulers and that's where the Vatican came is
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so instead.
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Of yeahs put four popes in office.
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Yes, that they did. Correct, it's all those black noble
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famili A.
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Lot of people don't know this, but it's quite interesting
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when you look back and you look at the traces
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of like the Middle Ages, dark agents, and then you
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have you know, and then you have the Renaissance, and
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then you have Enlightenment, and then you have the Industrial Revolution.
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Like these things aren't happening by accident. The timed especially, like,
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think about it. If you're this, okay, if you're the
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society out for lack of better terminology, or family or
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percentage of the population that's the elite, okay, and you
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want to completely orchestrate, uh, you know, a history or
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formulate a chronological timeline where you do these things like
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kind of slowly methodically, like throughout time. Right, you're going,
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but you already have the technology. A lot of the
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technology that we've rediscovered in the last let's say fifty
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years has been technologies that have been familiar to our
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planet for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years.
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So how are you going to do that? You can't
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just you know, shut off superstition or you know, change
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a belief system of core beliefs. This is the hardest
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thing to change about a human being. So what are
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you going to do? Well, it's already worked for you
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in one sense because you've already seen it play out.
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Let's do it again, but let's just do it slowly,
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and like heard, the masses along this way until they
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get to the point. And I think where we are
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now is the masses are waking up and they're going
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scratch on the head. They're going, something isn't right, and
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we don't want to participate in this anymore. I know
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that's for me. That's kind of how I feel about
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like where we are now. But Tartar itself, I mean,
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it's it's fascinating. You know. Chris actually introduced it to me,
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you know, about six months ago, like I said, and
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I have been just completely as a history major. It's
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blown everything I thought about our history out of the water.
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And I am left scratching my head saying where did
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it start? What is Tartaria? Where? You know?
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Is it?
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Is it really gone? Are there any sects of it
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left anywhere? Any any pockets any people that are originally
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considered Tartarian. Do you know.
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That that's a good question. I mean, I think i'd
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feel like the Central Asian, but there are so many
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different groups of people, like we found bones from, like
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the giants and others, you know, there are no longer
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with us, So I think there there are tribes that
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they haven't eradicated. But I think the Central Asian uh genetics,
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like their bloodline is playing out through the raw Child's,
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the Vatican and through these kind of elite families. And
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you'll actually see like that the dragon is one of
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their emblems. You'll see that dragon, you know, on a
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lot of their their on the noble signs. But you
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made a very good point about the technology, and they
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since they had access to the technology going back hundreds
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of years, they wanted to make sure that they had
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it and the people did not. So with every you
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know time that every time that they took over a
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society or you know, they conquered a country or society,
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they hoarded all the artwork, they hoarded all the knowledge
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and science and technology, and they kept everybody else ignorant
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and then they were able to implement it as they
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sought it. You have to you have to unleash like
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new technologies that would benefit themselves.
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I mean that that goes on line too, with like
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only nobles and elites being able to read. You know,
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one hundreds of years ago, that was considered something that
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common people just didn't do. I mean there was no
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printed paper. I'm talking before the printing machione was you know,
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invented in the fifteenth century. But I mean typically like
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basically men read, some noble women would read. I mean
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they would read the Bible, but I mean that's about it.
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And Chris, I have totally hijacked your show.
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So oh, okay, great question.
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I had the mangers like dream interviews.
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So no, you can you can go ahead and address that,
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Susan if you want.
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Well, I can tell you that, you know, Hillary I
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wasn't a fan of Hillary Clinton, but she always said
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that they were very racist, or not racist, but sexist
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against her. The Rothchilds wanted only men to rule. That
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they thought women belonged in you know, the kitchen or
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they're handling the children. So men tended to dominate because
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the Rochchilds were calling the shots. But you know, you
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did see a lot of women rulers previous, so prior
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to that.
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That's kind of interesting that it's the Abrahamic religion. You know,
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maintenance as well me means they don't come out and
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say it so much. But I think since was changed,
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but yeah, it is.
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Now when it comes to the Abrahamic religions, to what
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degree were they hijacked or were some of these even
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kind of created by some of these ruling bloodlines.
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That's a good question. The Christianity was established a course
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by Jesus, it has been has been hijacked one by
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the Vatican, and then like today, you'll have the prosperity gospel,
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and the prosperity gospel is technocratic. So what that means
632
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is that you want the world to see you as
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as blessed because you have money and power that you've
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basically stolen or you've acquired through your inheritance, and those
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who haven't who haven't obtained that, you don't want them
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to think, oh, well you've been you've stolen it from you,
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or you've created a system that is taking that away
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from the people. So you're the people who don't have anything,
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are the sinners like you? You know, God is not
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shining upon you. So it's a culture of greed. But
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the the church has been taken over through it's one
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global organization is called the World Council Churches. This is
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the means through which Marxism is being projected into the pew,
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and that that works. It's it was meant to provide
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like the value system under under as a as a
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foundation to the United Nations system to like to the government.
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So they they're also continuing to reshape values to find
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what it means to be, you know, good or evil.
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Judaism has been taken over by Zionism. The original Jews,
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and I know this is kind of going into some
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uh uh uh controversial territory, but the original Jews were
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came over with the Mayflower. They established the commercial law
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in the United States. They were people of God who
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served the book. They also served as the uh the priests,
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and who looked after the money for for the the
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European aristocrats. And they were very trusted and they were
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wise and decent people. Design Rothchild has hijacked Judaism to
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make it something that it is not. And then of
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course with Islam, the Vatican used Islam as like the
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Infidel to conk to help the Vatican con for Judaeo
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Christian Europe. So then Islam then became hijacked. They try
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to radicalize it, you know, to weaponize Islam against other societies,
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like to create like a clash of civilizations if you will.
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Well, they've weaponized religion altogether, in my humble opinion, so
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just they have. I mean, what better way to get
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people in line and to rewrite history by stealing it?
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No, that that's that's entirely true. You can tell them
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what to think and how to range their families. What's
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you know, appropriate or not? And you're right, So I.
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Mean, well, what you're saying right now, it's like a
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revelation right where no, no pun intended, were on the
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biblical side. But I mean, sincerely, if this is all true,
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let's just say for a moment that it is. They're
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basically the shapers of reality.
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That that's correct. That's correct. Yeah, And that's why they
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have such a high self regard, because I mean they
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you know, they create our television shows, our movies, appoint
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the leaders, determine what is taught in our schools, and
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they really control our We asked with the society, so.
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How do we how do we break away how do we,
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as people, as like common people like myself and Chris
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and you and people who are somewhat educated or you know,
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have devoted their life to learning more about this, how
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do we let them not do this anymore? Where's that?
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Where's that point where I mean, are we there? Have
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we arrived at that point in history where we're kind
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of like self aware and self actualizing and starting to
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scratch your heads and say, hey, something's not right, you
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know because a lot of people say, well, I don't
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even vote because my vote doesn't matter. And I understand that,
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you know, I do understand that that sense of you know,
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that's saying, you know, that sense of being like I
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don't feel like I have any power, because let's face it,
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when this, when the Supreme Court rules at a corporation
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is to be treated like a human being and given
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and what are the same rights? How do you fight that?
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Because that's basically saying money and power has now just
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basically taken over. And if we think our politicians control
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or do anything for us, we're silly because they are
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all lobbyists that control our government. And lobbyists are funded
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by what, oh, corporations?
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Well, October Hold this thought because I want to get
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into this towards the second half of the show about
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what's really happening right now and maybe solutions. But before
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we get too far into that, I want to stay
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in the historic coll aspect for a second, and I
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want to talk about, you know, speaking of complete control
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of our reality and perception and things of that nature.
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There's some that believe that they went they've even gone
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to the extent of causing global cataclysms to thin the
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herd or you know, shape a certain outcome in our future.
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But there has been evidence that we've been through multiple
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cataclysms on the planet. Uh to what degree if it
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was man made or caused, I don't know. I would
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like to get your thoughts on it, though.
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I'm not a scientist, so put it out that's a disclaimer.
717
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But I believe that they do have weapons, like through
718
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.599
their laboratories, which are government funded and of course which
719
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.840
in turn were lobbied by the contractors who in turn
720
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.960
contracts of these corporations that we've talked about.
721
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They do.
722
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.039
Minderstanding is that they do have like harp technology where
723
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.920
they're they're able to maybe reshape the weather, like create
724
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.159
floods or tornadoes that can be weaponized against the people
725
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.079
or against societies. And one of their greatest weapons is
726
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.159
I guess war where they have in the world wars
727
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:36.039
they uh during like the Russian Revolution, Stalin killed ten
728
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.800
tens of millions of people. Stalin was a Rowchild bloodline
729
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.480
during the World Wars, which are all like kind of
730
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:47.519
manufactured by design and by funding, but through the raw
731
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.239
Child they you know, we saw millions millions of people
732
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.880
losing their lives that way too. So they have throughout
733
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.000
the throughout the ages entirely like exterminated groups of people,
734
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.239
and then they come in and establish their own like
735
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:03.880
governments over them and then use those new systems to
736
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:07.480
kind of extract the resources and control the people. So yes,
737
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.440
they do create situations where they can kind of wipe
738
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.800
people out in order, you know, the chemical warfare another means,
739
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.280
so they can kind of take over and conquer.
740
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.800
Now, there's something that theorized that there was a global
741
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.360
mud flood that could have been caused by you know,
742
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.760
some sort of cosmic maybe asteroid or meteor or you know,
743
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:34.519
could have been caused by some nuclear weapon that occurred.
744
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.840
There's no exact you know, timeframe, but maybe sometime in
745
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.599
the eighteen hundreds that could have wiped out a good
746
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.760
portion of humanity, and it would have been a great
747
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:48.119
time for them to kind of repopulate and rewrite history
748
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.960
all in one kind of drop. What do you think about.
749
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:55.800
That that would be in line with what they would
750
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.440
do if they could do it. I have not personally
751
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:02.079
studied the mud floods. I do know that some architecture
752
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.920
has been found like under the ground that is so advanced,
753
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.480
like far beyond what we could create today. So I
754
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.559
think there is something to that, but I don't know
755
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:12.320
exactly how that came about. I wouldn't put it past
756
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:13.920
them to do something like that though.
757
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.320
There and there are sites like Chaco Canyon and North
758
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.639
America and that it was purposely buried, go back like
759
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.960
tid Bay purposely buried, I believe Darren Cooyo in Turkey.
760
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.920
I think it was specifically hidden. Now all these all
761
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.719
these sites that I'm mentioning right now, are you know, well,
762
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.800
let's just say, go up like a temple. They're they're
763
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.000
they're ranging that about what twelve thousand, six hundred years ago,
764
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:41.480
which in lines with the last ice Age and the
765
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:46.000
last I'm sorry the flood. So I'm just curious, like,
766
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.599
do you think like these sites are Tartarian related or
767
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.199
do you think they're just ever other advanced civilizations Choko
768
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.840
canyons a lot newer, so we'll focus on Go black
769
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.079
a Tippey for a minute. Do you think that these
770
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.199
sites are Turtari in nature or are they just advanced
771
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:06.800
civilizations that lived twelve thousand, fifteen, twenty thousand years ago
772
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:12.039
that you know, perhaps had this shared same knowledge as
773
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:16.840
far as technology goes and advanced enlightened beings or do
774
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.440
you think that they're completely unrelated.
775
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.880
I would say that it was Tartarian related, because the
776
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.800
history in Central Asia goes back, as I said, like,
777
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.199
you know, millions of years, and they were they were
778
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.199
the ones who had this advanced technology. When the Europeans
779
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.760
first entered Central Asia. I mean, they could not believe
780
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.400
the architecture, like how advanced it was and that it
781
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:43.639
was so advanced. Yet yet the people who lived within,
782
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.159
you know, with those societies were very primitive. So somehow
783
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.920
they had you know, comparatively into the Europeans and somehow
784
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.119
they had the technology to do this. So I think
785
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.360
that the technology came from a Tartary and you know,
786
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.840
there are different kind of theories about what happened to them.
787
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.320
They may have been killed off because I think, uh,
788
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.880
they were very the Mongolians and some of these tribes
789
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.760
were savage and they just exterminated people on mass So
790
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.960
you know, I think there there was some element of
791
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:19.840
like the people were wiped out, and I think the
792
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.000
technology that they had was stolen and it does trace
793
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.480
back to target those areas well.
794
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.280
Google the Tippi, they say, I mean and and when
795
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.840
I say they, I mean the current archaeologists and studies
796
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.639
that are coming out right now saying that that was
797
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:38.440
purposely buried under the sand. Now to me, the same
798
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.159
with the Dead Sea scrolls that was hidden in a cave. Right,
799
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.880
these these things and in darren cooyoh, even these these
800
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.840
places are I mean ancient, beyond ancient, and they're purposely hidden,
801
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.599
so they're almost like perfectly preserved like time capsules for
802
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.599
a future generation hopefully of people to discover. And maybe
803
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.679
I understand a little bit about our hits street. Do
804
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.960
you think that Tartarnians knew what was going to happen
805
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:05.280
or what was going down, so they started to like
806
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.960
bury and hide these you know, you know, texts and
807
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.000
sites and things for future exploration of humans to hopefully
808
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:13.159
uncover the truth.
809
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:20.760
That's that's really interesting. It incredible theory. I mean it's possible, uh.
810
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.639
I mean I know that like there there were different
811
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.880
like the secrets for would tend to be hidden by
812
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.920
by the religious classes, like by the monks, So they
813
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.599
may have done that. You know, they may have been
814
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.079
aware of the predatory mercenaries and known that if they
815
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:38.880
got a hold of it, they could do something wicked
816
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:43.039
with with those secrets. So it's possible that that steps
817
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.159
were taken by you know, by the monks and by
818
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.559
some of these religious classes to kind of preserve history.
819
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.800
Like we're only those in like a sacred group of
820
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.239
people would know where they were.
821
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.199
You know, in my mind, I know that Go Go
822
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:58.519
Baclay dates twenty twelve thousand, six years ago, and for
823
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.079
some reason I'm stuck on that or sorry Chris, but
824
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.440
but what I guess what I was going to say is,
825
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.719
but who knows how long it's been buried? Right, we
826
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.880
have no way of really knowing. Maybe that was only
827
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:10.800
buried a couple thousand years ago when all of this
828
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.119
stuff was going down and real quick before I just
829
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.400
want to say something real quick too. You mentioned initially
830
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.960
in an interview that Tartaria was in Central Asia and
831
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.880
it had little people and giants and and other you
832
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.880
know kinds of people roaming around. I mean people say
833
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.039
giants blah blah blah blah. We know for a fact
834
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.280
that the Smithsonian has confiscated many burial sites and bones
835
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:38.559
that are found in North America. I'm talking in like Ohio, Texas,
836
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:41.800
like different burial grounds that have been you know, discovered.
837
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.400
But if you just look back at James Cook, Captain
838
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.159
Cook from the eighteenth century when he landed on Easter Island.
839
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.840
He you know, with the what do you call it,
840
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:55.639
the nopal I can't what's the word, the giant easter id,
841
00:47:56.239 --> 00:48:01.320
giant easter heads. But he he wrote Rapanui. He wrote
842
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:06.159
extensively about giants on Easter Island. So this isn't like
843
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.960
a you know, isolated event that giants and little people
844
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:14.519
have existed throughout the world and throughout our history. They're
845
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:18.119
just they're just gone. Now we've i believe we've exterminated them.
846
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:22.119
But yes, that's very interesting. And the arts back in
847
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.360
the day were sponsored by the royal families who were
848
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.159
working with the merchants to establish new markets. And you
849
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.719
have books like go Over Travels, you know, in which
850
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.960
Jonathan Swift wrote, you know, he kind of wrote about
851
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:38.199
the giants and little Cutians and different types of people
852
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:41.000
that were kind of incorporated into novels and shared with
853
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.360
the public at large. So I think a lot of
854
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.920
these secrets and a lot of the knowledge was you know,
855
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:46.800
was incorporated into the novels.
856
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.719
And I agree you guys were just talking about how
857
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:56.000
if if the the ancients or Tartarians or even the elites,
858
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.559
that the bloodlines maybe possibly knew a lot about what's
859
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.239
coming in the future. And I think if they followed astrology,
860
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.199
which they probably did, and you know, and in fact,
861
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.760
I'm sure they did, they did know. And I you know,
862
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:12.079
I think that astrology is a profound tool for you know,
863
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.880
predicting not necessarily future events, but you know, future energies
864
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.199
and what time you should do things. And if we
865
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.360
look at what's happening now, I believe this is a
866
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.559
multi generational plan that has been in the in the
867
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:31.480
works for many years, possibly hundreds of years, based on
868
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.679
astrology and the position of the stars, and these guys
869
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.039
believe in that stuff. These guys are occultist. They practice
870
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.280
this stuff and they base everything they do off the stars.
871
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.360
Based on what I know. I'd like to get your
872
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:48.480
thoughts on that, and if you know this basically is
873
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:53.559
a plan based on occult practices that they're they're carrying
874
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:54.159
out right now.
875
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:58.039
It's definitely based upon occult practices. And I can say
876
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:02.199
that the the Vatican, you know, which is really at
877
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.320
the source of this cabal Uh, acquired its knowledge of
878
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.679
astrology from Central Asia. So Central Asian rulers used it
879
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.960
and they were seen as more ancient. They had access
880
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.440
to this kind of ancient knowledge and somehow they were
881
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.519
able to get power through knowledge of astrology. So that's
882
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.400
where they got it from. It was from Central Asia.
883
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:26.199
And also with the Rothchilds. I believe that after they
884
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.119
they crashed the Bank of England and were bred themselves
885
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.800
into the royal families, that they were given two hundred
886
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.000
years to rule. That would put us at the ending
887
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.440
date that would be twenty and fifteen. So I think
888
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.239
that was a point in which they began to kind
889
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.039
of lose their formal power and then things began to
890
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.559
But there's also other you know, other dynamics that change.
891
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.559
But that's part of the reason where things are kind
892
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:50.239
of changing for them, and they're.
893
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.559
You know, they're losing power. Oh you mean, like all
894
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.679
the trouble within the royal family, like the royal soap
895
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.960
Barbara and the fact that the queen has lived white
896
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.280
almost one hundred years.
897
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.960
Well, it seems that this whole thing is falling apart
898
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.079
for them. I don't know what else they have to
899
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.920
throw at us. Uh, It's it's gotten to the point
900
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.360
where people that I never thought would questioning any of
901
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.079
this stuff are and that's a good thing. I'm wondering,
902
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:18.760
what are your thoughts on this? Do you think that
903
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.559
they're making enough mistakes to where we have a chance
904
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:25.360
to turn this around? Like like October was asking earlier,
905
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.599
what you know, what are the solutions to this?
906
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:34.719
Okay? There everything is. One thing that it's good to
907
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.400
know is that you know, they created these false realities,
908
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.239
but at the same time, they've created false governments institutions.
909
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:43.639
So everything that they've created is color of law, a
910
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:48.679
color of law, so it's illegitimate. And this has been
911
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.440
discovered by many researchers, but it gained a lot of
912
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.360
momentum with a farm the farmer's class action from I
913
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.719
think it was the nineteen eighties, and that led to
914
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:03.320
Nasarah to Sarah, like they uncover this fraudulent financial system.
915
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:08.719
And I believe it was in twenty thirteen that the
916
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.239
debt that they had created that we were relinked, that
917
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.719
that debt was relinquished, and that as part of the
918
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.400
settlement for all their predatory banking practices, they were to
919
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:24.119
create these prosperity programs. So I think they've tried to
920
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.119
keep knowledge of the Sarah just Sarah hidden, like the
921
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.559
knowledge of what they have to do hidden, And at
922
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.920
the meantime they're trying to kind of move ahead with
923
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.119
their agenda for the new world order. But increasingly more
924
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.000
people are becoming aware of that it is illegitimate. So
925
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.119
I think we need to act on that illegitimacy. I
926
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:42.960
think we need to spread the knowledge of what they've done,
927
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.039
what they you know, what is right or not, what
928
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:48.519
the law says they can and cannot do, and then
929
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.480
to proceed accordingly, because I think we can set up
930
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.519
an entirely new system that is legitimate and that honors
931
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:57.920
of the rule of law democracy, which is you know,
932
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.760
based under God as it was meant to be.
933
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.639
Okay, sorry about that. Do you think a part of
934
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.960
this is a global depopulation attempt to look at the
935
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:15.480
Georgia guidestones, things that were written on there, and everything
936
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.480
that is occurring with you know, experimental injections and all
937
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.679
the terrible things that could possibly be going on that
938
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.039
are kind of coming to fruition right now. Do you
939
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:27.440
think that is a part of this agenda? Maybe for
940
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.440
easier control of the masses.
941
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:33.599
Yes, they want to reduce the population so that we're
942
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.400
more controlled books they think there are too many of
943
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:39.760
us now. Also, I believe that they believe they have
944
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.800
the technology that enables them to live forever. They can
945
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:46.239
create new bodies, they can transfer their consciousness through a chip,
946
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.800
and so they think if they can live forever, they
947
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.440
want to live in paradise. So they think they have
948
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:55.360
all the money in the world, they have all the power,
949
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.719
they have all the real estate. They want to kind
950
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.840
of inherit the earth and reduce, you know, to eliminate
951
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.719
all the the dregs, which would be like the people.
952
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.000
So I think they do want to do populate and
953
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.400
they want just enough people around to serve them and
954
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.039
you know, and for the rest would be like their
955
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own world. I control it.
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It happens like aki it does right, Also sounds like
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biblical stories if you kind of parallel the two, you know,
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I want to and you know, everyone's listening. And this
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00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.079
is a as a historian and a person who is
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00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.639
an open mind. At first I heard about Tartaria, I
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was like, oh, God, another you know, off the shoot,
962
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you know, theory about whatever. And then the more I
963
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.159
read about it, the more I questioned it, and even
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talking to you, like you like, what really I think
965
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that the crux of this conversation today and what I'm
966
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.719
taking away from it, it makes my mind just kind
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00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.440
of like expand a little bit ever so much more
968
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.360
when you're talking like giants and little people and people like,
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00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.880
oh giants were real? Really, well, where do you think
970
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.880
the DNA and the gene comes from? Giantism or where
971
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:06.920
do you think little people come from? These aren't just
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like flukes of nature. Like everything that we have in
973
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.519
our DNA, red hair, blue eyes, whatever, it comes from
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a source. So if we can change, you know, trace
975
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:20.920
our lineage, I can trace mine, you know to the
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sixteenth you know century, so far in England and Germany
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and Poland. I know that I come from like one
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side is the hallum So. That's my name, October hallam So,
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and that's and I can trace that back to the
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seventeenth century. My point is, we know we can trace
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that because we have written documentation and we have bloodlines
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and everything. My I have the same, very similar features
983
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.440
as my grandfather who's now gone, right, and my sisters
984
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:51.000
and I have share similar features. Why is this so
985
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.280
hard for people to understand that these you know, weird
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00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.519
little like you know, things that we you know, some
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00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.599
of us have moles, some of us have you know, birthmarks,
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00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.719
some of us, some of us are born with red hair.
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It's it's a rarity, right, you know. It all come
990
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from someplace, just like little people in giants, and we
991
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.719
have people who are reached almost seven feet like a
992
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.760
Shaquille O'Neal. I mean it's almost seven feet tall. So
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00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.559
I don't know why it's so hard for people to
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00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.320
wrap their brains around, you know, like they were little people,
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00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.840
you know, and I mean the home Homo Florencius and
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00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.920
Central Asia. Those people are about I'm probably butchering the name,
997
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:28.400
but you know, those people were found what a few
998
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.760
years ago, and they were about three foot tall. I mean,
999
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and they weren't considered little people. They were regular human beings,
1000
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but they only grew to about three three and a
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00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.119
half feet tall. I don't know what more. Those are
1002
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:47.119
fossilized bones. What more evidence do you need like that?
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I don't know, that's absolutely true.
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00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:49.159
I don't.
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00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.159
I don't. I don't understand why people have such a
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00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.320
cognitive dissonance to reality.
1007
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:57.880
I think because they've been programmed and you know, through
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00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:02.920
the media and the universities system and whatever it is,
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00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:05.840
not taught they i think they automatically dismissed. It's like
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a conspiracy theory. And and I think the powers that
1011
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.440
be probably don't want their minds to expand in those
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00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:15.000
areas because then you have to ask, well, what happened
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00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.159
to them and why did that happen? Like why were
1014
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.079
they eradicated? And and then once you began, you know,
1015
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.840
going down that rabbit hole, you'll you'll see you'll actually
1016
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.719
get to the core of the you know, the core
1017
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.280
of the power, the sources of power, and a lot
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00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:29.599
of the problems that we're facing today.
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00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:33.239
So people throughout the I'm sorry those are out there
1020
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:37.079
and radio and podcasting land that don't know what conspiracy God,
1021
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.840
it's like origins. The c i A coined that term,
1022
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:44.239
by the way, everybody last century just just to scare
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00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:45.920
off us truth seekers out there.
1024
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.639
So yeah, you know that you guys were just talking
1025
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about how you know this everything that we can look
1026
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:57.719
at today, kind it seems like you know, biblical prophecy, uh,
1027
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:01.719
and you know prophecy written about in even more ancient texts.
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But in all of these there's one common factor that
1029
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.960
I see is the battle of good and evil or
1030
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:12.079
light and dark, and the light always wins.
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00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:12.679
Yes, it does.
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So that's what you know, to end on today, do
1033
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:17.559
you think that this is going to be the same story,
1034
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.519
that is, the light is gonna gonna win again? Right,
1035
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.280
they always have to, They always have.
1036
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To, and the freemasons such that they are, they do
1037
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.639
work according to prophecy. And so what is meant to
1038
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.400
happen is that we're going to go through tribulations where
1039
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:37.280
the world's gonna become so incredibly evil that we we
1040
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.559
don't even want to, you know, to to endure, you know,
1041
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:42.599
what the world has to offer. And then after that
1042
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:44.960
point there will be like a new age, and and
1043
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:50.280
that new age will be a restoration of of proper governments, civility, virtue.
1044
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.719
So it's a new age under God that it will
1045
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.800
follow tribulations. The tribulations will be judgment for all these
1046
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:59.800
evil doers. That's right, that's where they're taking us.
1047
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:04.239
Yeah, October, do you have anything else for Susan before
1048
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we close out?
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00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.119
I do believe that we are in a battle of
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00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.480
white and dark. Let's face it, you walk in the
1051
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.119
dark room, what's the first thing you do? You have
1052
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.239
to turn a light on to find your way. And
1053
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.280
that's what we're in these podcasts, right, We're trying to
1054
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.480
find our way through these you know, very amazing and
1055
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.280
fantastic times. And I know people listening might say, why
1056
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:27.440
would you say, we're living through amazing and fantastic times?
1057
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:31.360
Because we have choice, And that's the universal law, free will,
1058
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:34.280
free choice. You have a choice whether you're going to
1059
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.920
believe and you're going to bow down to you know,
1060
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:39.719
what you're told is right and wrong, or if you're
1061
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:41.880
going to follow your gut, that little feeling inside of
1062
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.360
yourself that says, hey, some what's not right? I need
1063
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.199
to like read and do a little bit of investigation
1064
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:50.920
and form my own opinion outside of mainstream media and
1065
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:55.480
social media, and exactly doubt everything, doubt meet out everything,
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Go find yourself, go read some books, and then go
1067
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.920
look a little bit deeper because once you start doing
1068
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.280
that day, just like I did ten minutes before the
1069
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.360
interview today, I just I googled Tartaria just to see
1070
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.360
what was going to pop up. Right, of course, first
1071
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:11.679
thing is conspiracy theory. Second was you know, so discovering
1072
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.679
a neolithic village in Romania in the nineteen sixties and
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01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:17.960
here are worlds you know fair almost like seventy years
1074
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.760
before that based it off a neolithic village. So you're
1075
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:24.960
going to see these like synchronicities that start connecting adults.
1076
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:27.559
And once you do that, you're going to go down
1077
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:29.519
that rabbit hole, and I guarantee you you won't come
1078
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.000
back out the same person.
1079
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:34.840
Very well saidy, So what once your mind has expanded,
1080
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:37.559
it will never return to its original dimensions.
1081
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.159
You become like a sponge. You just want to like
1082
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:41.840
more and more information.
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01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:44.360
So yeah, a big part of that is what they
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01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.000
would call kind of like revelation of the method, where
1085
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.719
they have to show us a bit of what they're doing.
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01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.199
Uh do you think that that's a real thing amongst
1087
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.840
these these occultists and elite practices.
1088
01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:00.719
I think part of it is that it's part of
1089
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:04.159
their magic. So it's like predictive programming you've heard of,
1090
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.599
like the secret you know, as you believe you are.
1091
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.079
So they're putting their programming out there on what they
1092
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:15.440
want to manifest. So there is that, and also part
1093
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.360
of their their moral system involves that they have to
1094
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.960
that we have to consent to to what they're doing
1095
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.280
to us, and they view us as kind of stupid people,
1096
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.559
you know, like, look, we've we told them, we've shown them,
1097
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.840
they're they're still going along with it of their own
1098
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:31.840
free will, so they do have to kind of show
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01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:32.679
us what they're going to do.
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01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:37.079
Man. Well, October is right. We do live in very
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01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:42.000
fascinating and fantastic times, terrifying at times, but I think, uh,
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01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.920
I think we live in very critical times and I
1103
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.519
think the light is going to win like we always do.
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01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.480
Uh So, Susan, thank you so much for coming on.
1105
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.880
That was fantastic information for those that want to find
1106
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:57.320
out more about you your books, give them websites, social media,
1107
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:58.119
all that good stuff.
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01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.199
Thank you. You can go to my website, which is
1109
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.480
www dot Susan Bradford dot org has all my books
1110
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.840
and contact information, and you can find my gab my
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01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.360
galb account. I definitely need to do more by way
1112
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.760
of social media. So so far it's kind of a
1113
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.280
little basic, but it's that you can visit that page.
1114
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.840
Awesome well, Susan, thank you so much, October. Thank you
1115
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:20.880
for hosting with me.
1116
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.239
To welcome and we will be.
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01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.679
Back again next week with the new episode. Today, I
1118
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.960
want to welcome Mr Gorga. He is a former copywriter
1119
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.920
and journalist with film and TV credentials. He brings his
1120
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:37.320
talents to the paranormal slash horror genre in his writing career,
1121
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:41.880
which now spans decades. Mr welcome. How you doing.
1122
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:44.480
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.
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01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.039
Yes, thanks for coming on man, been looking forward to it.
1124
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.280
We're going to discuss your book Demons among Us. This
1125
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.400
delves into everything from shadow beings and possession to hauntings
1126
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.960
and evil spirits. It's such an interesting topic for me
1127
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.519
and there's so many directions that we can go with
1128
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.159
this that I want to go with this, But first
1129
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.519
let's start with more about yourself, your background, and what
1130
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:06.960
led you to write this book.
1131
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.079
Well, I've been a writer since a little kid. So
1132
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:14.719
I've been writing in some former fashion my entire life.
1133
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.119
And as a kid. One of the stories I like
1134
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:21.960
to tell is my elementary school teachers, like the third
1135
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.760
or fourth grade, had assigned us to to write a story.
1136
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.519
So I wrote this story about some murder some some
1137
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.840
kind of mummy on a murdering spree. And uh and
1138
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:37.199
so I handed into my teacher and I'm you know,
1139
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:40.280
I'm a little nervous because I just don't think this
1140
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.880
is the kind of material an elementary school kids should
1141
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:47.639
be writing. And so I turned it in and uh.
1142
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:50.760
My parents get a call that same night and it's
1143
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.000
my teacher and I'm like, oh man, I'm in I'm
1144
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.960
in real trouble now. And uh so, but I thought
1145
01:03:57.960 --> 01:03:59.159
I was going to be in trouble, but it was
1146
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:01.519
quite the oppice it. And he tells my parents, he says,
1147
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:03.719
you know, your son has a real talent for writing.
1148
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.800
You need to sign him up for the Young Author's
1149
01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:12.320
Club immediately. And so I've been writing ever since. Professionally.
1150
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:16.800
I started in magazines and journalism, moved over to advertising,
1151
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:21.280
copy and marketing and Demons among Us is actually my
1152
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.920
first foray into the paranormal spectrum, and lo and behold,
1153
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:29.239
it became a number one Amazon bestseller.
1154
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.000
Right on, man, Now you've actually had your own kind
1155
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:37.039
of paranormal experiences that led to your interest in this, right.
1156
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:40.079
Yeah, Well, the reason why I wrote the book in
1157
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:44.159
the first place was really to open the eyes and
1158
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:48.480
sound the alarm of to all of the spiritual and
1159
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:53.679
demonic activity happening all around us in the unseen sort
1160
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:58.559
of realm, and how it may be affecting your life
1161
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:02.320
or influencing your life without you even knowing it. And
1162
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:07.679
the catalyst for that was I was I had suffer
1163
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:12.599
or was under for numerous night straights. I would experience
1164
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:16.119
these demonic attacks at night, and so I'd be woken
1165
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:18.320
up out of the dev out of a dead sleep
1166
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:23.599
with iron invisible iron hands clamped around my throat, choking me.
1167
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:27.079
Is this recent uh something recently happened to you?
1168
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:27.880
Uh?
1169
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.920
Well, this kind of stuff happens, you know, more often
1170
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.559
than not. But you know, I talk about it, uh
1171
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.679
in the book. That wasn't the only you know, the
1172
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:39.639
only incidents. That's just that's just one thing that they do,
1173
01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:45.440
uh from time to time. So and but at that time,
1174
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:53.159
it was uh, invisible hands choking, just trying to like
1175
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:58.679
like iron, trying to press down evil whisperings in some
1176
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.559
form of demonic language, trying to speak whatever it was
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01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:07.719
into my into me or into my uh spirit so
1178
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:11.239
to say. And I'm sure it was nothing good. Uh
1179
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.920
and you know, fighting scratchings and things of that nature.
1180
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.199
And so this was going on for a week to
1181
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.960
ten days, two weeks, whatever it was. And uh, and
1182
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:25.599
so the reason why I wrote it was because, uh,
1183
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.400
you know, the last thing that these spirits want to
1184
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:32.360
do is to be exposed. They operate in deep secrecy
1185
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:36.480
and darkness. So I said, okay, you're going to attack me, Well,
1186
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:39.199
I'm going to attack back. And it wasn't only me
1187
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.559
that was being attacked. I was at the at the
1188
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:46.760
time of the writing, I was a prayer leader for
1189
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.679
ministry that I that I belonged to that I go to,
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and uh, we were having a prayer night and at
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01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:55.800
the end of the prayer night, I asked, there's like
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01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.599
thirty thirty people there and I asked them, I said,
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01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:05.000
is anybody else experiencing these things at night? And then
1194
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.119
one by one, these reluctant hands started to raise right,
1195
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:12.639
and it was thirteen in all, So it wasn't just
1196
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:19.679
me experiencing. There was thirteen people in my immediate circle
1197
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:23.159
that was kind of kind of experiencing these same terrifying,
1198
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:29.679
harrowing nighttime assaults. And so that was a catalyst into
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writing the book. Okay, I realized, okay, so if we're
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01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:36.199
under demonic assaults and we know it, so we know
1201
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:41.760
what's happening, and how many people are under assault or
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01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:44.519
attack and they don't even know what's going on. And
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01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.280
that was the reason why I wrote the book.
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01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.639
Right on now, for me, I used to have sleep
1205
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.760
paralysis situations that I look back now and I have
1206
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:57.840
a better understanding that it probably was something paranormal that
1207
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.920
was occurring. Yeah, but during the time I was going
1208
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.599
through a bad divorce, it was a very kind of
1209
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:06.199
depressing time in life, very stressful, and I was under
1210
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:09.079
a lot of stress every day, wouldn't sleep well at night,
1211
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.400
but when I would, I would hit these sleep paralysis states,
1212
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:14.760
and there these shadow figures would be kind of walking
1213
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.960
around my house numerous and I'd hear these loud banging noises.
1214
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.079
But I found once I got myself to a better position,
1215
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.560
once I got through my divorce, and just I was
1216
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.840
in a much better place spiritually, that that just all stopped.
1217
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.279
Was there anything occurring in like for you that maybe
1218
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:31.840
might have been a catalyst for any of that?
1219
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:35.840
I just think it's because of my stance. I'm a
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01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.880
follower of Jesus Christ and and uh and you know,
1221
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.800
and when you function in ministry at a you know,
1222
01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:45.119
at a at a high level, you put a target
1223
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:49.640
on your back. There they see me and people like
1224
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:53.399
me as an enemy and someone to be stopped. Uh
1225
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:59.079
So uh and they're my enemy, so uh, you know,
1226
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:03.439
they hate me, I hate them, and and so that
1227
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:07.640
that's what paints a target on my back. And every
1228
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:10.920
individual that kind of believes in the same way, they're
1229
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:12.680
going to kind of go through these things as well.
1230
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.479
Now, what is your understanding of what we are dealing
1231
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:18.920
with here? You know, I've had many guests with many
1232
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.840
different types of understandings of what demons are, or disincarnate
1233
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:26.760
spirits or even just types of energy that we're dealing with.
1234
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:29.199
What is your idea of what this is is? What
1235
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:33.199
were these spirits wants human? Were they never human? Give
1236
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:33.960
us your thoughts on.
1237
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:38.119
That, Well, they were never human, these are angels, except
1238
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:42.960
that they're they're fallen angels, uh so, and that they
1239
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:47.199
are heavenly beings. But they were kicked out of heaven
1240
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:52.880
due to the rebellion against God and by Lucifer, who
1241
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:56.720
you know, led basically a war to kind of over
1242
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.479
overtake God's throne, and and so because of that, they
1243
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.239
were expelled or cast out Lucifer and a third of
1244
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:07.840
the angels were cast out of heaven for this rebellion.
1245
01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:09.920
And they were not cast into Hell, they were cast
1246
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.800
into the earth and into the cosmos, and so they
1247
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.920
were you know, so this is what we're dealing with.
1248
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:24.760
We're dealing with highly intelligent, highly manipulative, cunning and deceitful,
1249
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:32.199
lying beings, and they are capable of, you know, much
1250
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:33.560
much evil.
1251
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:37.039
Do you think around the board this is the same
1252
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:39.840
thing that we're dealing with, these fallen angels. Or do
1253
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.960
you think that there's different types of negative spirits.
1254
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.199
Well you talk about negative spirits, they're you know, negative
1255
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.680
spirits or energies. These are all these are all demons.
1256
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:53.920
So I don't I don't look at it as I
1257
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:55.439
know that ghost hunters they look at it as like
1258
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.439
energies and this is a bad energy, and that's a
1259
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:01.399
bad energy. I look at what you're doing is yours.
1260
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:02.960
You're playing with demons.
1261
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.039
So even what they're considering, like you know, you watch
1262
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.039
a ghost on the show, they think they're talking with,
1263
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.760
you know, Grandma that's passed over the other side. You
1264
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.760
think that that that's possibly just a demonic entity that
1265
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:14.880
they're communicating with.
1266
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:20.079
And yeah, yeah, I believe that one hundred percent because
1267
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:23.359
the Bible, what it says is the devil transforms themselves
1268
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:26.439
into an angel of light, meaning that not just the devil,
1269
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.720
but all these hordes of angels have the same power
1270
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:33.039
to transform themselves into anything they want. They can look
1271
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:39.199
like a you know, a deceased grandfather, grandmother, child, you know, father.
1272
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.600
It doesn't even have to be deceased. They could still
1273
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:46.760
be alive. But uh, and so these can take on
1274
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:50.560
any form or shape. And so what I believe is
1275
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:54.239
what these people are actually communicating is is with demons.
1276
01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:57.079
I'd like to say that these are demons with a
1277
01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:57.560
mask on.
1278
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.840
Right now, I want to start with shadow figures because
1279
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:06.239
this is one of the things that I've experienced personally
1280
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.399
and I just used to brush it off as bad
1281
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.520
dreams and you know, just sleep paralysis. But I now
1282
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.279
have a little bit more of better understanding, and after
1283
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:17.159
speaking with many you know, wonderful guests like yourself, I
1284
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.239
do believe there was something spiritual, something paranormal to it.
1285
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:22.439
I don't really have, you know, that great of an
1286
01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:25.319
understanding of what I was dealing with. I want to
1287
01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:28.319
get your thoughts on what's happening with sleep paralysis and
1288
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:29.560
shadow people.
1289
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:32.840
Well, we talk about sleep paralysis. I think that we're
1290
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:35.319
trying to slap a term on something that we can't
1291
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.039
fully understand. We are dealing with something supernatural. I don't
1292
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:43.359
think it's a sleep paralysis. I think that's just something
1293
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:46.239
that we you know, we kind of just slap on
1294
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:51.359
there without any real kind of understanding. But what I
1295
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:53.680
look at it as is that these things come with
1296
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:58.840
paralyzing fear, and so they they do have the power
1297
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:03.600
to kind of overwhelm and paralyze for a moment until
1298
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:06.600
you're finally able to kind of like cry out or whatever.
1299
01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:10.640
They do take your breath away, they do, they do paralyzed,
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01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:14.760
They do you know, kind of you know, come upon
1301
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.079
you like a lead weight. And this is a very
1302
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.039
very supernatural thing. We're trying to slap on a very
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01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:25.720
human natural terminology. But to me, these are this is
1304
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.720
the work of demon spirits, evil spirits. Uh. And so
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01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.760
I don't look at a sleep paralysis because I don't
1306
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.720
know many instances of sleep paralysis when you wake up
1307
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:38.239
with steel hands around your throat.
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01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:41.920
Now, what do you think they're The reason is that
1309
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:44.319
they're they are so interested in us. Do you think
1310
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:48.119
that they're just siphoning energy or you know, some speculate
1311
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.439
that they're trying to actually steal our souls, which you know,
1312
01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.479
I'm not even sure if that's possible. What were your
1313
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:54.039
thoughts on that?
1314
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:58.239
Yeah, Well, they hate humanity and they hate mankind and
1315
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:01.800
they hate people. There is no good demon in the
1316
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.119
spirit realm, and they want nothing good for you.
1317
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:05.199
Uh.
1318
01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:08.079
And if they tell you anything good, otherwise there's a
1319
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:13.520
you know, there's a there's a malicious intent and so uh,
1320
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.960
you know, so we're dealing with highly cunning, highly evil
1321
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:22.760
beings and they hate humanity because you know, they you
1322
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:26.880
represent the creation of God and therefore, because of their
1323
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.960
their their hatred humanity stems from trying to strike back
1324
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.239
at the heart of God because you represent the creation
1325
01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:39.520
of God, and so he's trying to steal, to kill
1326
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:43.800
and destroy the creation any way he can in order
1327
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:46.399
to kind of just get back at God. It's like
1328
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:52.319
this cosmic you know, like a spiritual cosmic cosmic war. Yeah.
1329
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.800
Yeah, Do you think that there are good spirits, good
1330
01:14:57.199 --> 01:15:01.319
you know, angelic beings, celestial beings do have our best
1331
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:02.119
interests in mind?
1332
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.680
Yeah? Absolutely, yeah. And you know, so you know, the
1333
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:10.159
Bible's full of you know, angels and demons and you
1334
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:13.399
know so so yeah, but uh, you know, the the
1335
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:16.920
angelic beings. Just so the clear it up. People have
1336
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.600
this misconception of what what these angels look like. They're
1337
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.439
not babies with wings. They're not you know, they're not
1338
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:28.279
they're not feminine women with beautiful looking wings. What they
1339
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:35.000
are is they're asking uh, an extremely masculine warlike culture.
1340
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:40.439
And so when they come on behalf of mankind or
1341
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:44.439
behalf of an individual, they come with such power and
1342
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:50.399
such and such such a glory. I guess I could
1343
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:54.159
say that men fall down before them as if they're dead,
1344
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.119
meaning they they basically crack their pants when they see
1345
01:15:57.159 --> 01:16:01.560
like a real angel, because they're so fearful and fearsome.
1346
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.199
They but then the angel has to say, don't fear.
1347
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:07.880
The reason why they have to say, you know, don't
1348
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:12.640
fear is because these things are so frightening to see that,
1349
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:18.119
you know, they they people fall down just because it's
1350
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:23.199
such a ferocious looking, you know, being. You know, it's
1351
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:27.720
it's emanating with power, and it's you know, they're a again,
1352
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.520
and you know, and they have swords and so they're like,
1353
01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:35.479
you know, they're equipped for battle. And so just to
1354
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.720
kind of disseminate like what the popular culture make think
1355
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:44.560
an angel looks like, the Bible has a different, different
1356
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:49.359
description and so, but yeah, they do. They do work
1357
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:54.000
and operate on behalf of mankind. And so there are
1358
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.399
good angels in the heavenly realm.
1359
01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.880
Now do you believe that we have each our personal
1360
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:05.239
guardian angel and possibly ancestors or spirit guides, spiritual beings
1361
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:07.439
that help protect us and guide us along the way.
1362
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:13.600
You know, I don't know so much about a personal angel.
1363
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:18.479
I'll find out in heaven. Uh, when when I get there,
1364
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:20.880
I'll find out that, oh, yeah, this was this was
1365
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:24.279
the guy who was you know, assigned to your life. Right.
1366
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.600
But until that, I don't know. But when we talk
1367
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:30.000
about spirit guides and things of that nature, that's when
1368
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:35.439
we start delving into these these demonic beings. When we
1369
01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:38.760
try to tap into spirit guides and everything like that,
1370
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:40.680
that's when we start and get into demonology.
1371
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:43.960
Now, the information that we are discussing that you do know,
1372
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:48.239
this is basically from from years of studying things like
1373
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.439
demonology and in theology.
1374
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:55.079
Yeah. Well, my experiences come. I talk about very first
1375
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:58.479
hand experiences uh in in my book.
1376
01:17:59.159 --> 01:17:59.359
Uh.
1377
01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:04.720
And then I talk about, you know, very historical experience
1378
01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:08.800
about one of the first fully documented eyewitness accounts of
1379
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.159
demonic possession in American history, and that was some two
1380
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:16.880
decades before the Salem witch trials and soh so mall,
1381
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:21.359
my experience is experiential, and you know when doing the
1382
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:24.159
you know, doing the research. Yes, I've done the research
1383
01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:28.600
where I've I've I was able to touch and handle
1384
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:32.680
parchments that are over three hundred and fifty years old
1385
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:35.159
in my in my research efforts.
1386
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:38.560
Wow, excellent, Uh, you said, you know, you know, you
1387
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.840
speak of your first hand experience. Were there other profound
1388
01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.960
experiences besides what you've already told us about the hands
1389
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:47.479
on your throat and pressing down in your chest.
1390
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.199
Oh yeah, well one of the big, one of the
1391
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:52.920
big stories. Now, the book has like all the wow factor,
1392
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:58.359
yeah stories in the right, but there are always minor
1393
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.119
incidences and things of that nature. But it was the
1394
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:05.239
big wow creepy factor which which made it into the
1395
01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:09.359
book and one of the stories in there. In chapter three,
1396
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:12.640
it tells a story of how I lost my job
1397
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.039
at a local newspaper and it had to move back
1398
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.680
out out west, you know, lost my apartment and I
1399
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:23.239
moved back out west into a home of family member
1400
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:25.720
had just sort of left and was sitting there for
1401
01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:28.680
like six months or so. And so when I pull
1402
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.319
up into the driveway, it literally looked like the monsters
1403
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:35.880
could have been living there over the Adams family. And
1404
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:39.079
when I pull up, I mean the grass was all green,
1405
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:43.680
I mean grass was all brown and overgrown. There were
1406
01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:48.199
drifts of sand in the in the driveway, and it
1407
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:54.279
had a dilapidated, you know, raw paintless fence, and even
1408
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.600
the door itself to the fence was hanging on one
1409
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:01.039
hinge and creaking in this breeze. And so it had
1410
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:04.760
all the hallmarks of this haunted house. And to make
1411
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:09.039
it even more creepy the town. It was a town
1412
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.640
home and it had these two big block windows on
1413
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:15.720
either side, and it stared over the property like two
1414
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:20.920
vacant eyes, and it really looked like it gave it
1415
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:25.720
a real Amityville horror appeal. And so that was the
1416
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:31.840
visual film that I was walking into. And so I
1417
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:35.479
go inside, and long story short, there was one night
1418
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:38.680
I was I was sleeping in the master bedroom, was
1419
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:43.159
on the second floor, and as I'm trying to go
1420
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:46.399
to sleep, I'm like, I'm on like one side, oh
1421
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:47.920
I was. I'm trying to go to sleep. I start
1422
01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:52.920
to smell this this very rancid rank odor start to
1423
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:56.840
kind of permeate through the through the house, and it
1424
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:01.279
smells like it's something dead, had some kind of dead
1425
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:08.600
corpse mixed with a gaseous sulfur kind of odor. And
1426
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.439
I'm like, what the heck's I'm sniffing around the room.
1427
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:14.600
I go downstairs and it's not the garbage and it's
1428
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:17.640
not the garbage disposal or anything like that. And then
1429
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:22.680
I look up at the air vent and I say, hmm,
1430
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.079
So I get a chair. I hug up onto the
1431
01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:29.119
onto the chair and I put my my my face
1432
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:32.600
to the air vent and this rot is just breathing
1433
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:36.439
onto my face and so it's coming from the from
1434
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:40.079
the air vent, and I'm like and so I'm like,
1435
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:43.159
I have a suspicion something's happening. So I go to
1436
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:46.520
the power to the utility box. I cut the power
1437
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:50.000
to the AC, go back, hype up, hike up, back
1438
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:55.720
up onto the chair and this this rank rot is
1439
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.319
still blowing into my face without any power or mechanical
1440
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:03.439
assistance at this point. So now it's just breathing out
1441
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:08.760
this deathlike smell all on its own. So I kind
1442
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:10.479
of have a feeling that I'm in for it that night.
1443
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:14.079
And so, uh I live in Florida, so I had
1444
01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:16.319
to turn the AC back on because you know.
1445
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:19.880
You can't you can't live in Florida for a while.
1446
01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:23.840
And so if something's going to happen, I would rather
1447
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:27.880
be cool. And so uh so I go back upstairs
1448
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.119
and I try to go to sleep, and I guess
1449
01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:35.840
I call I fall asleep in that you know, half
1450
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:40.199
kind of sleep stage, and and I'm I'm on my
1451
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:45.920
side and I'm sleeping, and I see something flash like
1452
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.760
underneath like my eyelids, a shift in the light. You know,
1453
01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:52.720
you could see, like you know, something flash even though
1454
01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:55.960
your eyes are closed. So I saw something flash and
1455
01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:00.920
I'm like, okay, I didn't look it's right. And then
1456
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.119
a second later, I hear a voice call my name,
1457
01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:10.039
and it set out with a blackness. It says, come.
1458
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:16.680
It's real slow, real creepy. It was part you know,
1459
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:21.680
it's part hiss and and part whisper. And it was
1460
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:25.479
strange because it sounded as it sounded very near yet
1461
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:28.640
very far away, like it was spoken from the depths
1462
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:33.000
of a cave or something. And so so then I
1463
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:37.039
roll over and I look up and there's this black
1464
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:42.640
figure standing over my bed and it's tall and it's lanky,
1465
01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:46.760
and it's crooked shoulders and it's it's it's all in black,
1466
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:52.159
you know, cloak, cloaked and hooded in black, and deep
1467
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:55.560
in the cowl, I could see the semblance of a face,
1468
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.680
and it's looking down on me with this mocking menacing
1469
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:04.720
grin in like it was smiling. Its mouth was smiling,
1470
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:09.479
but its eyes were there were weird because there was pupils,
1471
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:12.800
but there was no life or no light in them.
1472
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:14.960
It was like this dead list. It was like this
1473
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:19.800
lifeless pit. So as the mouth was smiling, but the
1474
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:25.359
eyes were not. And then I felt something on my
1475
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:29.520
chest and I looked down and there's this this claw
1476
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:35.920
like hand creeping its weapon like nails up my chest slowly.
1477
01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:39.079
And that's why it was mocking and grin and grinning,
1478
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:42.239
because it was taking pleasure in it's and it's in
1479
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:45.920
its malice, and its aim was to choke me. And
1480
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:49.560
I was paralyzed with fear, and so I couldn't move
1481
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:53.520
and I couldn't cry out because it was there was
1482
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:57.880
a power from it. And not only just a power
1483
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:00.520
coming from it, there was a there was a hot
1484
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.479
hatred coming off of it in bands and so I
1485
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:07.640
can feel like this unearthly hatred washing over me. And
1486
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:10.760
not only did I feel it like you know, washing
1487
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:13.680
over me, I can feel it burning through me like
1488
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.920
hot tar. That was literally this hatred was just brought
1489
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:22.520
boiling through me. And I looked down for some reason,
1490
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:26.560
I looked down at it's at its gown, and it
1491
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.920
looked like it was flowing underwater, like it was the
1492
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.199
bottom of its gown. Was looked like it was like
1493
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:36.880
waving underwater. And it was really strange because as much
1494
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:39.720
as it was physical, it was spiritual because I could
1495
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:44.479
see through a portion of it, of the being towards
1496
01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:50.199
the bottom of its of its gown. And it was
1497
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.600
really strange because it wasn't shreds or anything like that,
1498
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:58.479
but they were neat rectangular bands that went back like
1499
01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:01.920
in layers, like vertical bloes, like you haven't flower, you know,
1500
01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:06.319
and so and it was layer upon layer, and it
1501
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:09.720
started off with like a gray black sort of look,
1502
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:13.560
and the deeper it got, the more layers it went back,
1503
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:15.840
the blacker it got. And it was weird because it
1504
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:18.439
was almost like looking into like space, like there was
1505
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:21.439
no depth to it. It was crazy looking. And I
1506
01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:23.680
remember thinking, like, there's a real wow, there's a real
1507
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:28.079
beauty to this motion. Like what a weird strange thought
1508
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:30.760
I had at that moment, but I did. And then
1509
01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:34.600
I looked back up and you know, and it's intent
1510
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:39.600
was to you know, was to either choke me or
1511
01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:44.239
to kill me. And and so that was the most
1512
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:46.399
terrifying experience to me because that was the I've had
1513
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:49.560
a lot of experiences, but that was the first time
1514
01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:54.000
like something of the spiritual came into the natural and
1515
01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:57.760
was physically touching me as real as any you know,
1516
01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:01.960
as any as any touch could ever be. And and
1517
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:05.319
that's what made it, you know, that incident so terrifying.
1518
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:07.399
How did that incident end for you?
1519
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:07.520
Do?
1520
01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:08.520
I mean did you?
1521
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:11.239
Were you able to dismiss this this being?
1522
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.560
Yeah, well, once I was able to kind of you know,
1523
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:19.239
cry out or kind of you know, get my bearings
1524
01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:21.960
together or whatever, I was able to cry out and
1525
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:25.239
call on Jesus. I called on Jesus uh. And Jesus
1526
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:29.039
gives his believers and his followers a supernatural, unearthly power
1527
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.359
to overcome. The Bible says, I give you power to
1528
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:36.319
trample on snakes and scorpions and all the power of
1529
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:40.239
the enemy. And so so all I have to do
1530
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:44.760
was call on his name, and this thing immediately it
1531
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:49.760
started collapsing into itself like mist, like droplets of mist,
1532
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:53.319
and before you knew it, it was just gone. And
1533
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:55.600
that's how. And so when I sat up and I'm like,
1534
01:27:55.640 --> 01:28:01.119
what the what the F was that? And it was
1535
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:04.560
it was a spirit of witchcraft. It was both physical
1536
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:07.560
and spiritual at the same time. So it's like, you know,
1537
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:10.319
you could you could see it was it was a solid,
1538
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:14.399
solid form, except you could see through portions of its
1539
01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.640
uh of down on the bottom of its of its gown,
1540
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:20.520
like I like I said, and so it was Yeah,
1541
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:22.760
as much as it was physical, it was spiritual.
1542
01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.560
Now there's a lot of cases not only of what
1543
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:30.359
people would consider demonic attacks or evil spiritual attacks, but
1544
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:35.159
even what people are calling, uh an extraterrestrial abduction, where
1545
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:37.600
they would call upon the name of Jesus if they
1546
01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:41.359
got scared and these beat what of these extraterrestrials would
1547
01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:45.199
back away or they disappear? Uh? What are your thoughts
1548
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:47.640
about the whole extraterrestrial thing? Do you think that this
1549
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.039
is actually demonic too?
1550
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:52.079
Yeah? My thoughts on analysis. Okay, so there's a lot
1551
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:56.520
of branches to the demonic tree, so to say. And
1552
01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:01.159
I truly truly believe that what we as aliens are
1553
01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:06.000
actually demons and masquerade. And the reason I say this
1554
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:10.520
is because, yeah, because you hear stories of that. They
1555
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.520
they back away when they hear the deam of Jesus.
1556
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:16.520
But they they follow the same exact m O that
1557
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:20.439
was employed in the Garden of Eden when the snake
1558
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:24.920
tempted Eve. Now I'm sure we're all familiar with that story, right,
1559
01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:28.880
But what he but what he tempts Eve with was
1560
01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:32.279
He says, you know, to eat from the from the
1561
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.439
tree of the God, the knowledge of good and evil.
1562
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:37.720
And so he says to her, it says, you will
1563
01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:42.119
be like God, knowing good and evil, meaning that he
1564
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:46.079
tempted her with knowledge. And every time you see these
1565
01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:49.760
things and they're uh, they're they're usually offering some form
1566
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:53.760
of knowledge, some form of intelligence, some sort of something
1567
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:57.039
you don't know that they're going to tell you, right,
1568
01:29:57.439 --> 01:29:59.520
and so you see that, you know, so you see
1569
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:02.199
that a lot. I think they have the power to
1570
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:05.880
make you think that you're abducted. Like again, these things
1571
01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:09.600
have very very great power. They're very deceptive and they
1572
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:12.560
can make you know, they can make it look like
1573
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:14.840
you're in a room where you're abducted, but you actually
1574
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:18.640
never left your own room. And so I think a
1575
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:21.640
lot of this is you know, it's well I think
1576
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:27.520
all of it is a deception and born from demons.
1577
01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:30.640
Well, I'm going to take it to a very strange level.
1578
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:34.359
Here there are but this wasn't strange enough, Yeah, it's
1579
01:30:34.359 --> 01:30:37.680
going to get even stranger. So there have always been
1580
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:42.000
these factions in high level ufology that some of them
1581
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:45.640
work for the government, the military, that have always believed
1582
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:48.399
that this has been a spiritual phenomenon, not this nuts
1583
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:51.560
and bolts type of extraterrestrials coming to give us knowledge,
1584
01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:55.520
but something that we shouldn't be really messing with. You know,
1585
01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:58.239
you heard of the Columns Elite, and now we have
1586
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:02.239
even other factions within uh levels of the Pentagon that
1587
01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:04.640
are warning that this is some sort of spiritual or
1588
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:08.680
demonic phenomenon. Well, that being said, they're they're pushing all
1589
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:13.239
this awfully hard into the mainstream, the whole disclosure and
1590
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:16.840
ufology and these department new departments that are formed by
1591
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.159
the Pentagon to look into this stuff. So what does
1592
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:21.039
all that tell you? Where do you sit with that?
1593
01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:25.479
Well, if there, you know, there are demonic intelligences that
1594
01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:28.000
they're communicating with, I can I can tell you this.
1595
01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:33.680
They are they are tempting with knowledge, and the more
1596
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:37.000
knowledge you want, the more sacrifice you're going to have
1597
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:39.600
to give for these higher forms of knowledge. So if
1598
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:42.279
we are communicating with them, or they are communicating with them,
1599
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:46.000
they are being deceived. Uh, they are dealing with the
1600
01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:49.600
demonic intelligences in the form or shape of an alien
1601
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:55.079
And so that's that's my opinion. That's you know, that's
1602
01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:58.000
that's what I think is happening. If we are speaking
1603
01:31:58.039 --> 01:31:59.920
with them, then they are in disguise.
1604
01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:04.399
Now, I am definitely of the belief that the that
1605
01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:08.279
we are surrounded by unseen realms and entities at all times,
1606
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:12.399
and what you're describing as these demons are indeed around
1607
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.479
us at all times and have the ability to kind
1608
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:17.800
of phase in and out of our reality at will.
1609
01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.239
What are your thought Do you think these unseen realms
1610
01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:24.640
around us at all times are a part of a
1611
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:27.039
negative spiritual realm?
1612
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:31.800
Well, it's it's uh, it's a realm that they that
1613
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.760
they populate. So it's not the realm itself that's evil.
1614
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:38.399
It's them that make that realm evil.
1615
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:39.319
Right.
1616
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:43.039
God created the world for good, right, and so but
1617
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:46.479
when they were cast to this, to this world and
1618
01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:50.439
into this atmosphere and this and this realm, well they
1619
01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:54.640
they by themselves had made this an evil realm.
1620
01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:58.479
Right. Well, so it's they kind of hijacked our reality
1621
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:01.439
in a sense. Are these astral types of realms? Right?
1622
01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:05.079
Yeah? But Lucifer thinks he owns it, so you know,
1623
01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:08.159
the even Bible calls him the god of this age. Uh,
1624
01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:10.359
he is with a lot of power and a lot
1625
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:10.960
of authority.
1626
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:11.479
Uh.
1627
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:15.600
The angels don't even question his authority because many many
1628
01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:19.399
of the angels were actually under his authority to begin with.
1629
01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:21.880
That's how because he had a very very high role
1630
01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:26.600
uh in the heavenlys before he was cast out and
1631
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:31.279
so uh so, but now he populates him and these demons,
1632
01:33:31.319 --> 01:33:35.319
they they believe they have rule uh in this room,
1633
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:38.039
in this realm a right.
1634
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.479
And it makes me think of, you know, kind of
1635
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:44.680
these these old gnostic stories where there is this kind
1636
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:47.800
of demonic entity that took over our reality and kind
1637
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:50.880
of hijacked our perception. I believe there's a lot of
1638
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:54.119
inversion even in you know, some of our modern religions
1639
01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:57.000
that are causing a lot of what you would call
1640
01:33:57.079 --> 01:33:59.439
spiritual problems in our inner existence.
1641
01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:03.920
Would you agree, well, I mean, well, the church itself
1642
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:05.880
has a problem because they don't they don't preach on
1643
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:10.840
the reality of uh, you know, of this demonic activity
1644
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:12.640
because they're too afraid to preach about it.
1645
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:13.399
Uh.
1646
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:16.560
So they need to wake up uh and start you know,
1647
01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:20.520
start training and start teaching these things, you know, because
1648
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:23.119
you you have to know your enemy, right uh and
1649
01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.920
so uh, but to ignore them is to ignore this
1650
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.800
at your own peril. And uh, they need to stop
1651
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:33.720
preaching for money and stop preaching for popularity, and start
1652
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.800
preaching the truth. So they do the great many many
1653
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:41.279
churches have done a great, great disservice by negating this
1654
01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:45.000
whole you know, this whole reality, this whole spiritual reality.
1655
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:50.800
Is that the question, Yeah, how widespread do you think
1656
01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:53.520
this phenomenon is? Do you think that every person on
1657
01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:57.600
this on this earth does get under attack in some form?
1658
01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:03.199
Yeah? World over, throughout all of history, there's always been
1659
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the same amount of demons. It's just a matter of
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01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:12.439
intensity and uptick. And you know, in the there, whatever
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01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:16.920
their purposes are, this stuff has been been happening since
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01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:19.319
day since day one. And I've put in the book
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01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.640
right in the beginning of the book, I actually have
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01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:26.520
a quote from a Chinese philosopher, so I even like
1665
01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:29.600
talked about it from like not a religious standpoint. So
1666
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:34.560
this is a Chinese philosopher around four eighty eighty or BC.
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01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:39.439
I have to look chog my memory. But and he said,
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01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:42.840
if from antiquity until now men have heard the voices
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01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:46.399
of disembodied spirits and seen their forms, how can we
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01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:50.600
say these things don't exist? So I wrote that to
1671
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:53.279
demonstrate that we've been dealing with this kind of stuff
1672
01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:58.399
for a very very long time, right, and not everybody's
1673
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.760
crazy since the dawn of time, and who has seen
1674
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:05.800
these things? It's it's mathematically impossible and so but yeah,
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01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:09.159
they do. We have been dealing with these things since
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01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:13.560
since day one. This is it's worldwide. Uh, there's millions
1677
01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:19.359
upon millions of these angelic beings and so uh and
1678
01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:22.359
they operate and function in the world around us, and
1679
01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:24.479
and how they let me just talk about how they operate.
1680
01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:27.239
That's the way we have an understanding. Now we know
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01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:30.479
what possession is. Possession is when a demon spirit takes
1682
01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:34.479
over our body a form of a person bodily, right,
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01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:38.319
and that's the most extreme form. Now, if we can
1684
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:44.279
think of this spirit realm like influencer marketing, and what
1685
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:47.319
I mean by that is we all know what influencer
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01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:47.960
marketing is.
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01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:48.199
Right.
1688
01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:51.640
We take somebody who has a billion followers on Instagram
1689
01:36:52.199 --> 01:36:54.920
and we put our product in their hand and we'll say, yeah,
1690
01:36:55.239 --> 01:36:58.600
talk about our product, and you know, and they talk
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01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:01.479
about the product, and then the seates into the you know,
1692
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.960
the millions of followers, right, and the millions of followers
1693
01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.760
talk about it to their to their friends and their families,
1694
01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:12.119
and they did it to their followers. Now, if I
1695
01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:17.760
was a smart devil, which he is, who would I
1696
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:23.079
go after? Who would I try to influence? Well, high level,
1697
01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:28.800
I will tell you politicians, keep going.
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01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:34.399
Uh, Celebrities, politicians, very high level, corporate interests, billionaires of
1699
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:38.319
the planet, uh, World Economic Forum, people's you know, you
1700
01:37:38.359 --> 01:37:39.399
know the usual players.
1701
01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:55.600
Absolutely, yes, I would go after president's, head of states, justices, judiciaries, politicians, lawmakers, entertainers, singers, rappers, musicians, actors, actresses, uh,
1702
01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:59.800
and anybody who has network heads, anybody who has influence.
1703
01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:06.039
I would inject my ideologies and my causes and I
1704
01:38:06.079 --> 01:38:11.600
would disseminate them, use them to disseminate to the masses.
1705
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:15.680
So what these people become, unknowingly or knowingly, is they
1706
01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:20.520
become these puppets of evil. They're pawns in a greater
1707
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:23.800
demonic scheme, whether they know it or not. And so
1708
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:26.960
and this is how that spirit realm works. Now, within
1709
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:31.560
that realm, like I said, possession is that extreme form
1710
01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:34.479
we have the every day I want to talk about
1711
01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:39.119
the everyday workings of these evil spirits. Okay, And this
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01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:42.279
is stuff many many people have never considered. And that's
1713
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:43.880
why I put it in the books so I could
1714
01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:49.000
show it to them. Is that these beings and these angels,
1715
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:51.520
they all have names. I have a name, You have
1716
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:54.439
a name. Everyone in your audience has a name. But
1717
01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:56.880
it's not so much to know them by name, but
1718
01:38:56.920 --> 01:38:59.800
by their known by their form, their function, their role,
1719
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:03.640
or their purpose, their job, so to say. And so
1720
01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:08.279
there are such things as we talk about fear U.
1721
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:12.359
There's such a thing as spirits of fear. There are
1722
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:17.960
such things as spirits of uh manipulation, spirits of hate,
1723
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:24.479
spirits of greed, UH, spirits of suicide, spirits of lust
1724
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:29.399
or poornea. Where we get our word pornography from. There's
1725
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.920
spirits spirits of pharmacoy where we get our word pharmacy
1726
01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:37.720
or pharmaceutical from. And in the Greek that pharmaciea word
1727
01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:42.520
means sorceries. And so we have all of these spirits
1728
01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:49.359
operating in the world around us and could could be affecting, influencing,
1729
01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:52.159
and directing our lives without us even knowing it. And
1730
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.039
that's why I wrote the book, was to kind of
1731
01:39:54.079 --> 01:40:00.760
expose this everyday stuff that's that may have life controlling life,
1732
01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:03.680
controlling issues that people are dealing with that are actually
1733
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:04.640
highly spiritual.
1734
01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:07.159
That's what I was going to bring up. A lot
1735
01:40:07.159 --> 01:40:12.439
of what we consider mental illness could possibly have origins
1736
01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:15.760
that are spiritual. And maybe even you know, these these
1737
01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:19.439
negative entities what we would call demonic, that are whispering
1738
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:23.439
in our ear. Maybe some you know, for examples, you know, schizophrenia,
1739
01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:27.039
Maybe some of these cases aren't exactly what medical science
1740
01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:28.600
is telling us. What do you think about that?
1741
01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:32.119
Well, first, I just want to say I'm no doctor, Okay,
1742
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:36.560
I believe there there are there are as a place
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01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:40.920
for psychiatrics and psychiatry and things of that nature. Okay,
1744
01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:45.119
but when it comes into the realm of insanity or
1745
01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:50.600
you know, schizophrenia and things of that appear like that,
1746
01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:55.960
I believe that there are many many people who are
1747
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:01.399
not so much dis misdiagnosed, but that they don't know
1748
01:41:01.439 --> 01:41:03.920
what to call this because what they're what this is
1749
01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:07.520
is beyond them. So what they're trying to do is
1750
01:41:07.640 --> 01:41:13.520
trying to medicate these people. They're trying to they're they're
1751
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:19.159
trying to medicate or to solve a sere, a spiritual,
1752
01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:24.680
supernatural matter with natural means that they don't understand with
1753
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:27.319
you know, with a with a thing they don't understand,
1754
01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:30.960
and they just slap a term on there, like, oh, schizophrenia,
1755
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:33.800
Oh this is this is uh, you know, this is
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01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.199
hyper schizophrenia with U with a with a visit and that,
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01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:40.000
and it's like it's the reason why they do is
1758
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:41.760
because it's beyond them. They don't understand it, and they
1759
01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:45.479
think that a pill is going to actually help these people.
1760
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.359
It's never going to set them free because you're trying
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01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:52.479
to again, you're trying to you're trying to aid I
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01:41:52.479 --> 01:41:54.680
say aid because they don't want you to cure anything.
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01:41:56.479 --> 01:42:02.119
They're trying to aid this supernatural problem with a natural
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01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:07.000
remedy or natural you know man's man's sort of remedies,
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01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:09.479
and they're never going to set these people free.
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01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:10.359
Yeah.
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It makes me think of one of my guests I
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01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:14.560
had a while back. His name is doctor Tom sens Or.
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He's a hypnotherapist and he works with people with multiple
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01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:22.239
personality disorder and he came to the conclusion a long
1771
01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:25.920
time ago that some of these personalities that he was
1772
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:30.520
dealing with were indeed spiritual or demonic entities that had
1773
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:35.319
to be treated in very unorthodox ways, spiritual ways, you know,
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01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:37.399
sometimes to the extent of exorcism.
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01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:40.840
Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, because you're talking about,
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01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:44.119
you know, other personalities within your personality. I don't think
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01:42:44.159 --> 01:42:47.520
his personality disorder. I think it's highly possible to be
1778
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:52.479
infiltrated by by many, many demons and at once. It's
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01:42:52.479 --> 01:42:56.199
not just one demon. Right. There's a story in the Bible.
1780
01:42:57.239 --> 01:42:59.600
I don't know if if you know it or if
1781
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:03.319
you're audience knows it. But Jesus was on his way
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01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:09.520
to across the water there, trying to get to a
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01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:14.279
city called Getsemonine. And what met him on the shore
1784
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:18.119
was this what they call a demoniac. This guy was
1785
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:21.560
infested with demons, and so he would spend the night
1786
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:25.520
in the graveyard what they called the tombs, and he
1787
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:28.560
was They would chain him up, he would break the chains,
1788
01:43:28.680 --> 01:43:31.159
he would cut himself with stones and rocks and cry
1789
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:34.680
out all night. So this guy was a mess. And
1790
01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:37.560
so he comes to he sees Jesus and runs to
1791
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:42.840
Jesus on the shore. And he comes up to Jesus
1792
01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:45.439
and it wasn't even it wasn't him speakings, it was speaking.
1793
01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:48.439
It was the demons within him and they said, we
1794
01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:51.000
know who you are, the son of God? Have you
1795
01:43:51.119 --> 01:43:55.279
come to torment us before the time? So they knew
1796
01:43:55.279 --> 01:43:58.039
who Jesus was. They knew that he had the power
1797
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:00.680
to what they meant was the cast them into hell
1798
01:44:01.159 --> 01:44:04.239
before the time. So they knew who he was. They
1799
01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:06.560
knew what he was going to do at some point,
1800
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:09.960
and they knew that they and they feared him. And
1801
01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:11.680
so I said, all that to say is because this
1802
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:15.279
Jesus I'm talking about, is not this this wimpy character
1803
01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:19.079
that we see all over culture and media, right, this
1804
01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:23.279
emaciated guy on across. I'm talking with somebody with real, supernatural,
1805
01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:29.279
unearthly power. And and so uh, he says, well, who
1806
01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:32.239
you know? And then Jews says, well, well who who
1807
01:44:32.279 --> 01:44:35.960
are you speaking to? The demon? And he says, well, uh,
1808
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:40.079
we are a legion because we were many, And he says,
1809
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:44.600
and they begged him, they cried out to him, begging
1810
01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:47.319
him not to throw them into hell, but to cast
1811
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.119
them into the into the herd of swine that were
1812
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:53.960
on top of the cliff there. And so he permitted.
1813
01:44:54.119 --> 01:44:57.560
So he cast these demons, he says, a legion of
1814
01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:01.279
demons into these pigs, and and that they ran violently
1815
01:45:01.399 --> 01:45:04.239
down the hill and into the water and drowned themselves.
1816
01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:06.880
And so I said, all that to say is that
1817
01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:11.399
this man that that word legion is a military term
1818
01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:15.319
of Roman military term, which meant there was about two
1819
01:45:15.319 --> 01:45:19.279
thousand soldiers, were up to two thousand soldiers. So this
1820
01:45:19.399 --> 01:45:24.239
man quite possibly could have had two thousand demons operating
1821
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:27.000
in him at one time. But then we see the
1822
01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:29.680
power of Jesus. He casts you know, he casts them
1823
01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:32.159
out and sets the guy free. This guy was a
1824
01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:38.760
crazy lunatic. And then when people saw that this crazy lunatic,
1825
01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:41.680
it would cut himself crying at night in these tombs,
1826
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:44.560
was sitting there in his right mind. Oh, by the way,
1827
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:48.079
he was naked too, and had clothes on, and in
1828
01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:51.760
his right mind. People were they were shocked and stunned
1829
01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:55.760
because they could not believe that this crazy lunatic, which
1830
01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:59.479
we would have deemed a schizophrenic, was sitting there and
1831
01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:04.239
then in his right mind and clothed and was you know,
1832
01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:10.159
was set free from this this many demons operating in him.
1833
01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:11.119
Right.
1834
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:11.680
Wow.
1835
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:13.239
So I said that all to say that we can
1836
01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:15.399
have many demons operating in our lots.
1837
01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:17.680
Oh yeah, Well, while we're on this subject, I want
1838
01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:19.680
to get into possession a little bit more. You were
1839
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:23.600
talking about the first fully recorded eyewitness account of demonic
1840
01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:27.079
possession in American history, even before the Sale and witch trials.
1841
01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:28.720
Would you tell us a little bit about that.
1842
01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:33.039
Yeah, Well, the story is was one of the most
1843
01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:37.800
harrowing stories like I've come across in my in my research,
1844
01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:42.520
and it was it had to be part of the book,
1845
01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:49.079
you know, it was it was. The story takes place, yeah,
1846
01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:53.079
in sixteen seventy one, early New England in a very
1847
01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:57.520
very small town, and the story takes place between the
1848
01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:02.079
town minister and his sixteen year old maid or maid
1849
01:47:02.199 --> 01:47:06.319
servant and who she lived with at his home at
1850
01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:12.479
the time. And so what had happened was she started
1851
01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:16.319
exhibiting some kind of strange signs that made him kind of,
1852
01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:20.119
you know, raise his eyebrows a little bit, and so
1853
01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:22.119
he just kind of kept an eye on her for
1854
01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:25.119
a couple of weeks. But then things just started to
1855
01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:28.119
kind of get out of hand, and that's when he
1856
01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:32.239
took to his journal and he started writing a blow
1857
01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:35.760
by blow of what was happening over the course of
1858
01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:39.920
ninety days within his home. It was happening to this girl,
1859
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:44.119
and his first journal entry was very interesting because it
1860
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:50.720
took place on Monday, October thirtieth, sixteen seventy one, which
1861
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:55.439
was very very you know, very strange, you know. And
1862
01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:57.560
so what was happening to this girl was she started
1863
01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:59.720
off like just kind of like mild things, but then
1864
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:02.600
you know, there were instances where she was trying to
1865
01:48:02.640 --> 01:48:06.359
throw herself into the fire, and then there was interested
1866
01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:11.479
episodes of severe, severe seizures that were left her crippled
1867
01:48:11.560 --> 01:48:15.119
for days on end. And then there were, you know,
1868
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:21.560
episodes where she had tried to the devil tried to
1869
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:25.279
get her to murder the minister in his sleep. So
1870
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:27.760
there's an episode where she was trying to kill him
1871
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:31.279
in his sleep. And so there's like all these I
1872
01:48:31.279 --> 01:48:34.560
don't want to give away all of these crazy things
1873
01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:36.880
that were happening within the girl, but he does tell
1874
01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:40.279
he calls them atrocities, and he did a very very
1875
01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:43.720
interesting thing for the time is he had her checked
1876
01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:45.760
out by a doctor who tried to treat her for
1877
01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:52.079
two weeks, and so he was ruling out according to
1878
01:48:52.279 --> 01:48:56.640
the medical understanding of the time, he ruled out epilepsy,
1879
01:48:56.760 --> 01:49:00.600
he ruled out dropsy, he ruled out frenetic and colligue,
1880
01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:04.000
which would have been manic depression, and so he decided
1881
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:07.800
to try to treat her with what they call back
1882
01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:12.479
then physic, which would have been medication. And so she
1883
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:15.399
started to make a recovery, and then a week or
1884
01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:17.800
two later it just kind of like sparked back up.
1885
01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:22.119
And then there was an episode where she went, you know,
1886
01:49:22.399 --> 01:49:30.520
ballistic through the home and roaring, screaming, talk, turning over tables.
1887
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:33.960
She could not be taken down by six people. She
1888
01:49:34.039 --> 01:49:39.000
had superhuman strength, and it was just this harrowing episode
1889
01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:41.920
and the doctor left. He said, this is diabolical. Call
1890
01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:47.680
the ministers and so and so. But yeah, so the
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reason why it's the first uh case is because this
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was like it was everything was was penned and he
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was literally like writing, you know, the eyewitness account of
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what happening, and the whole thing was what was her
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relationship to the devil and why was this happening? And
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this is what he was trying to get to the
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bottom of.
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Yeah, I know you wrote a lot about the Salem
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witch trials as well, and you're also going to be
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doing another book about it, is that right?
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Well, I recently, well the audio book Is for Demons
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among Us is kind of next on the plate. But
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I do have a full length feature screenplay that had
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come about from the three hundred and fifty years of research,
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not that I'm three hundred and fifty years old. I
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mean back in my historical research regarding all of this
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stuff about witchcraft, possession and early you know which you know,
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early witch trials and things of that nature. And so
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I have this screenplay that I'm looking that I'm shopping
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right now, and I'm looking for producers and agents to
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get on board. But basically it's it's what I believe
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one of the most harring, true to life which trials
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you'll probably ever ever encounter, and so I'm looking to,
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you know, to get that out there as well. So
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there's anyone out there wants to jump on board, contact me,
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We'll make a govet. But but yeah, it is it
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is extremely, extremely creepy. In fact, I've never seen any
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of these things put on.
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Film, really, So you have some accounts definitely that have
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not been heard in the mainstream at length before.
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Right one hundred percent. I mean you have to look
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back years upon years upon years of research to uncover
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what I've uncovered.
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That's great. Now, without giving away too much, would you
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be able to tell us maybe a couple of the instances.
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She goes on trial for the battle of her life,
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this woman, and it's in sixteen fifty five, and so
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the this which she faces trial and then we kind
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of find out what she's about as we go along.
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Do you think that what people are considering possession could
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be possibly caused by, like you were talking earlier, drugs
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and you know, illicit substances and things like that could
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open a door to these different realms and these different entities.
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Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of ways these
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can kind of infiltrate your life or gain access or
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entry points into your life. One of, you know, some
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of the main ways are tampering with the tools of
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the demonic, meaning that you know, messing around with wig aboards, spirits, mediums,
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palm readers, fortune tellers, necromancers, calling on the dead, you know,
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seeking the information from from dead relatives and things of
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that nature. All those things are inroads into that gain
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access to somebody's life. So these occulted practices, you know,
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witchcraft as well. So these are cultured practices act as
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entry points. So these demons that will say something in
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regards to if you, you know, if you try to
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you know, expel them or whatever, they would say something
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to the effect, well, I was invited, this one's mine.
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I belong here, right. Well, nobody said, hey, demon, come
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into me. But they look at these things as an invitation,
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you know, and so I look, i'd like in the
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spirit realm, Like if you enter into the spirit realm
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is a very dangerous, dangerous place. So if you enter
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into the spirit realm unprotected, unprotected of God opening up
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your conscience in in other ways as well, if you
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enter into this realm unprotected, Uh, it's like jumping into
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a shark take in the sea, a tank full of
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sharks in the you know, in the water. I mean,
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I liken it to that, because that's exactly what it is.
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You're jumping into a shark tank full of sharks. If
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you're going to play with the spirit realm unprotected, and
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so you run the risk of, you know, of your
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life being evade invaded, You run the risk of being influenced,
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You run the risk of you know, opening these doors
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to the demonic. And nothing is good as going to
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to to happen the longer you tamper with these things.
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So and then there's there's issues of you know, various
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sins and various things that we that we we tamper
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with and to talk about. One of the things I
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like to tell is that you know, like I was
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talking about, like spirits of greed, right, and spirits of lust. Right. Well,
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one of the stories I like to tell it's in
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the Bible, and it's the story of Judas. Now we
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know who Judas is, right, He's the man who betrayed
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Jesus Christ for three hundred pieces I mean for thirty
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pieces of silver, which in today's money would be three
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hundred dollars. So he and so, but Judas was Jesus's
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He walked with Jesus three and a half years, right,
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bited up with him for three and three and a
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half years. He saw the miracles, he saw all of
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these crazy things. He saw the walking on water, he
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saw the calming of storms, he saw the healings, he
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saw all of these things. In fact, Judas himself also
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did miracles too. And so we have this man who
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is walking with him for three and a half years.
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As is one of the twelve and and so. But
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Judas had a role. He was the treasurer, so he
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had access to the money bag or the money box. Well,
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Judas had a greed issue, so he kept taking from
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the money box for himself. So he has functioning under
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a spirit of greed. Now by the time we get
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to the Last Supper, the last Supper is the knight
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that Jesus was betrayed right and and so Jesus says,
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this night, one of you will betray me, right and
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so and they all say, oh Lord, is it I?
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Is it I? Right? And then he says, the one
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who dips his hand with me into the you know,
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one who dips into the bread with me is the one.
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And it was Judas, right and so so then he
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says to Judas, what you do, do quickly? And then
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the Bible says, Satan entered in right. So it was
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because he was functioning under the spirit of greed for
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all of these years at an opportune time because of
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that sin, because of that issue, Satan sought entry at
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that moment. And you know, and then we all know
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01:57:14.359 --> 01:57:16.039
what happened there. He went and betrayed him to the
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chief priests, and Da da and ended up crucifying the
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son of God. So I said, all that to say
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is that because we have these we could have these
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life controlling issues, We could have these sins that we
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01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:34.880
function and operate under a spirit in the spirit, and
2011
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at some point they can gain real strongholds in our lives.
2012
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What do you think about the possibility of widespread occult
2013
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magic at very high levels, like we were talking about earlier, politicians,
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corporate interests, that some of these people may be actually
2015
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knowingly and willingly interacting with this stuff to gain power.
2016
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Well, it's a true reality. The issue is is how
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you obtain power though, is these demons make you do
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more heinous things in order to obtain more power. In
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the end, it's a lie. They're going to stand in
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judgment before God, God help them, and so nobody gets
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01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:19.920
away with anything. But yeah, I do believe that people
2022
01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:23.479
are functioning in demonic, very demonic things at high levels
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for sure.
2024
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And do you see that this is a special time
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01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.560
that we're in where people are starting to see through
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01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:34.079
some of the lies and deceptions that have been put
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01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:39.119
forward to us and not maybe not participate as much
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01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:41.319
in it. And we're entering a very critical you know,
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maybe even apocalyptic time.
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Well, I mean it's yeah, it's good that people are
2031
01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:49.720
starting to finally finally wake up. I mean, I mean,
2032
01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:51.880
just think how long this stuff has been going on.
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01:58:52.560 --> 01:58:55.479
So it wasn't just this, you know, under this president,
2034
01:58:55.560 --> 01:58:59.640
but you know, presidents upon presidents upon presidents is how
2035
01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:02.279
you know, how far back this thing goes? I don't know,
2036
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but it's about time people are finally starting to you know,
2037
01:59:07.560 --> 01:59:13.000
see this kind of stuff, right yeah, I And at
2038
01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:17.479
the times we're in, I believe we're going to see
2039
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:20.600
it uptick in demonic activity. I truly believe that we're
2040
01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:22.479
in the last of the last days, or on the
2041
01:59:22.520 --> 01:59:27.960
cusp of the last days, just because of the last
2042
01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:34.840
days are going to be hallmarked by false miracles, false Christ,
2043
01:59:35.079 --> 01:59:38.640
an anti Christ political figure who is the anti Christ,
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01:59:39.800 --> 01:59:47.279
and it is it functions in a one world monetary
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01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:50.840
banking system where money is accessed through the palm of
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01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:55.279
your hand, or you receive something into your hand and
2047
01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:58.560
you do your banking and you're buying and you're selling
2048
01:59:59.479 --> 02:00:03.000
with the thing that's in your hand. Right Well, that's
2049
02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:06.279
in the Bible. Actually wrote about that two thousand years ago.
2050
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It's called the mark of the beast. It's the Beast system.
2051
02:00:10.199 --> 02:00:14.079
So the Beast system is going to be implemented in
2052
02:00:14.199 --> 02:00:16.439
these last days. And when I saw somebody on the
2053
02:00:16.479 --> 02:00:21.760
news not so long ago buying things in the store
2054
02:00:22.600 --> 02:00:25.520
with the wave of the palm of their hand, it
2055
02:00:25.600 --> 02:00:28.279
was just what was written two thousand years ago in
2056
02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:31.960
the Book of Revelation, a kind of there's no coincidence
2057
02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:34.399
in that, Like, how could someone from two thousand years
2058
02:00:34.439 --> 02:00:38.159
ago say exactly how it was going to come about?
2059
02:00:38.640 --> 02:00:43.000
So this last days, which means what I said all
2060
02:00:43.159 --> 02:00:47.439
to say is because of that technology available and people
2061
02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:50.399
able to now buy with the palm of their hand
2062
02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:54.000
and bank with the palm of their hand. This is
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02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:59.880
the financial system that is the beast. In the beast system,
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the Bible talks about Mr.
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This was fantastic. Before you head out, tell us when
2066
02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:07.760
should we expect the audiobook.
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I'm shooting for December second, hopefully soon. We're you know,
2068
02:01:12.760 --> 02:01:15.680
at the at the tail end here, and you know,
2069
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:19.279
it's just a matter of tying up the loose ends
2070
02:01:19.319 --> 02:01:21.479
and you know, and then getting it up there. So
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02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:25.319
it should be you know, very very soon. And so
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02:01:25.399 --> 02:01:30.039
the audiobook should be available hopefully very soon.
2073
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Good fair Eneugh, this was great. We'll definitely love to
2074
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:35.960
have you back on in the future.
2075
02:01:36.520 --> 02:01:37.960
Thank you. Yeah, I'd love to come back.
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All right, till next time, everyone to have an excellent evening.
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We'll talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all all. Then you
2078
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can now stream the Forbidden documentary of Cult Louisiana free
2079
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on two b TV. Louisiana is a magical place and.
2080
02:02:17.960 --> 02:02:21.199
That was Cajun country. You know, the food's good, the
2081
02:02:21.359 --> 02:02:24.279
ladies is fine. There's a run and roll, like the
2082
02:02:24.319 --> 02:02:25.119
old folks says.
2083
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They love you so much. Incredible occult and forgotten history.
2084
02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:33.239
There's a lot to the ancient history and era that
2085
02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:36.199
we could be uncovering. Everybody is starting to like really
2086
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equit pieces together.
2087
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I've been writing books and doing research in the field
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02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:47.479
of Native American mounds and archaeology since the nineteen eighties.
2089
02:02:47.920 --> 02:02:53.880
The LSU campus mounds were redated, which is absolutely bizarre.
2090
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This is all very, very strange, and it's just been
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02:02:58.159 --> 02:03:02.760
made more strange because all these old mounds are in Louisiana.
2092
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The Smithsonian dug into over two thousand mounds, finding seventeen
2093
02:03:09.760 --> 02:03:11.000
large skeletons.
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02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:16.840
They saw a very tall humanoid being.
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We just have a rich history of paranormal type stuff.
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02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:24.680
New Orleans is considered to be the most hot in
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02:03:24.760 --> 02:03:27.600
city in the country. The energy that's over the land,
2098
02:03:27.640 --> 02:03:31.000
and that energy seems to be stuck there.
2099
02:03:31.359 --> 02:03:35.640
In twenty nineteen, I had an experience. It was all black,
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02:03:36.039 --> 02:03:41.199
had long black hair on it, a tall creature that
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02:03:41.279 --> 02:03:46.039
had a dog's head. Legendary things fiction become reality.
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I mean, it's fifteen.
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02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:49.119
This dog man chased him through the woods.
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02:03:49.119 --> 02:03:52.920
He only survived because of his dog saving his life.
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Y'all may kill me today, I said, but I promise
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you this, I'm gonna kill at LEAs two or three
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young I.
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Said, you will for the pain of this thirty all season.
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It was so close that he could see down the
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back of its throat.
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The vast swamps of Louisiana hold many secrets, from an
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incredibly old, forgotten history to mythical creatures.
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There are no answers, there's only more questions.
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The nature of this experience seems to always be just
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beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.
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There's layers upon layers upon layers. Does add such an
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element of mystery to this place?
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Why are we here. We're getting closer to the truth now.
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There's too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.
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I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
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Dreams involved interactions with real entities.
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People are waking up paralyzed their sensing, or seeing something
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very evil in the room.
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I have experienced sleep paralysis, shadow people start to appear.
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I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
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alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
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about these things.
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A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
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our paranormal research would say.
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We'll have the ghost. Well what if it's all of
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those things and none of those things, the entities, the
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intelligence that were just beyond our understanding. There seems to
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a daily basis.
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We're definitely not alone.
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UFOs UAPs portals opening up.
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I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.
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People they would say they were transform into bears, into wolves.
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Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seem to
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