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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes.
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I'm super excited for our guest. I'd like to welcome
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to the show former FBI investigator the Real X Man,
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John Desuza. John, how are you tonight? Oh?
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I'm great, Chris. Thank you so much for having me on.
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Really happy to be here with you today, with you
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and your audience and be talking on Forbidden Knowledge News.
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Awesome, great, and thanks for joining us. I appreciate you
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taking the time, and I thought we would start with,
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of course, a little bit about your background and then
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what brought you to you know, your current path and
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this phenomenon that you're currently researching.
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Sure you know for your audience, I'm John Desusa, called
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the X Man. I was a special agent of the
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FBI for over twenty five years. I was during that time,
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I maintained a top secret security clearance and I worked
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counter terrorism investigations, pretty high profile things. Also, I worked
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some paranormal cases for a lot of different reasons, and
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so during that time I collected what I like to
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call the real life X files, and I share those
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with people now in my books. My books like The
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Extra Dimensionals and The Para Investigators, and I try to
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make people understand things about these these events and these
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realities that are so important today because we see developments
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in them every single day. And what brought me to
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this path in the paranormal was even I had experiences
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even as a teenager, even before I before I ever
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joined the FBI, I had my experiences, I had my
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obser with in uphology, I had my observation experiences, I
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had my contact experiences also, and as soon as I
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got into the FBI, through a series of events that
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came together, I was also given paranormal assignments, paranormal involved
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assignments to do and to work on, and those are
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available for people. People can see them. People can see
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them actually in a show called The X Files from
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the nineties that came out way back then, and then
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the first and second season of that show, they used
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a lot of my experiences for the for the stories
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in the X Files, and that also was kind of
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an involved story. And I so I basically have been
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involved with the paranormal basically throughout my entire life, both
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of pology and other phenomena as well. And people want
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to see some of those experiences, they can just go
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to vault to FBI, sorry to vault dot FBI dot gov,
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and which is the repository of all declassified cases, and
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they can just go and hit on that big old
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tab that says unknown phenomena, unexplained phenomena. They hit on that,
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and then that opens up a whole bunch of all
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the supernatural cases that have been studied in the FBI
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over the last hundred years. And that's including animal mutilations,
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extrasensory perception, UFOs, JFK assassination, many others, and a lot
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of those. And those cases are in there and anybody
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can look at them, and they're free to download those documents.
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Anybody can go get them.
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Well awesome, thank you for that. And I know you've
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probably told this story hundreds of times, but I think
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it's important to kind of set the premise of what
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you've been through and with your experience and research, can
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you tell us a little bit about those personal experiences,
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maybe your first contact and any other contact you had.
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Sure, When I was about ten years old, I had
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my parents took me out to a party in New
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York City and I was with a bunch of little kids.
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We ran out into the night and we were kind
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of playing like one in the morning, way past our bedtime,
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and uh, they're out there. Something happened. All the kids
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ran away and I stayed there, and I was looking
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up at the sky and it was a star beautiful,
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starry night, and I was looking up at the sky
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and there was a dark ink cloud that was kind
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of in the middle of everything, and I looked at that,
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kept looking at that cloud, and out of the bottom
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came some spotlights that came out and they came towards me,
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and it was one of these like just looked like
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one of these old fashioned sort of flying saucers. A
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disk looked metallic, and it just came down towards me,
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hit me with those bluish greenish sort of spotlight that
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came down over me. And I just felt the contact
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with this this thing, this this ufo that appeared to me.
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I had a sense of it that it was not
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an earthly entity. It was not an earthly thing, and
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it just kind of passed through me, this spotlight and
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two girls appeared on my left, teenage girls. They were
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just screaming looking up at the same thing I was,
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and one of them yelled at me, little boy, you
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better run home. The world might be ending. And they
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kind of woke me up, and myself and the flying saucer,
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it looked like we changed our mind at the same moment,
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because I took a step back out of that spotlight,
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and the thing reverse course and started going back up
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into that dark in cloud, and like a cartoon character
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just kind of that jumps in the hole and pulls
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the hole in after it. Thing just went up into
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that cloud and cloud was gone. I could see the
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stars again, and that was it, and so I ran
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back to where my parents were. I tried to tell
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them what happened. And later that week I had my
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first contact experience, which was a couple of beings came
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into my bedroom and the room changed so that I
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went stiff. The air everything changed, and I just went
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stiff like a bank, like a plank. And then I
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felt what I I assumed were like little children coming
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into my room, and they were lifting me up like
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a board, sort of like a board half filled with
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helium there and because wherever they put me, I stayed
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there in the air. And then I just saw the
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ceiling coming closer and closer and closer, and they were
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lifting me up towards that, and then my head, just
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my forehead just bunked against the ceiling. They couldn't put
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me through the ceiling, even though I could see they
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were passing through the ceiling easily, but for some reason
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I wouldn't come through, and that was very unexpected to them.
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And now I could see them as they were examining
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the spot on the ceiling where they were looking. They
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were examining and see what was wrong. And I could
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see that they were not little children. They were like
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these grayish sort of creatures that were slender bodied, weird shaped,
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and I could see those black sort of wrap around
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eyes that they had that were not human. And they
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were lowering me and where and they were climbing on
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top of nothing. There was nothing there, but they were
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somehow climbing up and trying again, bonking my head again
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against the the ceiling. And as they did that, I
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was able to move my neck more and more, and
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I kind of looked over to where my parents were.
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Their Their bedroom was a junket was right off from
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my bedroom, and the door was wide open, and I
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could see two more of these beings on the ground
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holding their hands up over the bed like they were
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creating some kind of staces field keeping my parents asleep,
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even tho I could see they were struggling in pools
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of sweat. They were struggling to wake up, but they couldn't.
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And these and then the one nearest to me looked
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over at me as I was straining my neck to
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look over at it, and it looked at me and
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made eye contact with those big black, wrap around eyes,
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and I just heard the words, he's awake. And when
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I heard those words, it's like a cord was cut,
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and I just fell right back down into my bed
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like a sack of potatoes. And they were gone. They
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were all gone. The room changed back again and it
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was just normal. And then I was sitting up thinking
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how was I going to wake up my parents? And
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I was feeling I would never sleep again, and then
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I just conked out, full asleep. We didn't wake up
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for many hours later, and there were the adults were
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shuffling around trying to create a story of what had
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happened so that so that they could have their story straight.
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And that was it.
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That was my contact experience and my observation experience as well.
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So it seems that they couldn't, you know, lift you through.
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Do you think that there's a reason why you specifically
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they couldn't get as to some people, you know, they
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successfully abduct.
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Yeah, there has to be a reason. I don't know
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what that reason was. Some people tell me, now that
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I've been in the community for quite a while, some
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people tell me it's they made a mistake in reading
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my DNA or blood type had something to do maybe
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with blood type, or some kind of mistake was made
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when they did that examination of me with that spotlight
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and that's why they couldn't Or maybe I have an
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extra ingredient that they were not expecting could be bad
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as well. So whatever it was, it was just not
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it was too much for them to deal with.
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Yeah, it seems like, you know, some people just don't
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have contact. As for myself, I've really never seen a UFO.
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I seen some things that may have resembled the UFO,
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may have thought, but I wasn't sure. And it seems
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like some people have, you know, frequent contact with these beings.
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Would you say that's you know, pretty correct.
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Absolutely, there's people who are contacted and then there's intergenerational
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content contexts keep ongoing when they have kids to their
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kids and then grandchildren, and it's just something that they
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just get designated. But as for me, after that initial attempt,
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I never had contact again. I mean except professionally through
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my career when I had to have contact related to that.
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Now, based on your research, these entities they may not
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even be from the far reaches of outer space. They
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may be a lot closer than we think they may be,
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you know, right on the other side of the veil here.
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Would you say that's accurate.
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Yes, As a matter of fact, that's what I've always
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written about in my book The Extra Dimensionals. The whole
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point of that of that book is that I don't
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believe alien visitors are physical. I don't believe they are
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at all. I don't believe they're coming from other solar systems,
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other galaxies, and coming across time and space in tin
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cans like we're taught. We're always taught that they're physical,
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Ever since Roswell Crash, we're always taught that aliens have
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an imminency because they're all physical, just like us. Well,
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I don't believe that's true. I don't believe there are
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anything like us. I don't believe that they would lock
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themselves into tin cans to sail across space, because that's
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not what they're doing apparently from everything I've seen, both
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even in the FBI, everything I've seen has revealed to
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me that alien visitors, real ones, the real ones, are
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completely not physical, and that maybe they are for short
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sometimes they can make themselves physical for short periods of time,
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but fundamentally their nature is not to be physical, and
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the same with real UFOs. You, real UFOs are more
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like plasmas than metal ships. They are made out of
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a material that has shifting states, shifting states of matter and.
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Energy's pilots to these UFOs.
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I don't believe they are. I believe they are. They
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are empty. Real UFOs are empty. They are like and
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they are a form of life as well. They are alive.
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They are conscious. They may not be biologically we are,
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but they are conscious and they have their own life
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form life, and they accompany alien visitors kind of like
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kind of like cats would accompany as familiars, or familiars
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would accompany our sorcerers or witches and to do their bidding,
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to do little tasks for them. And the task that
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they do is that they collect information on us and
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that data they collect, that data to bring back to
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alien visitors. That's what all the investigations I have seen
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have really reinforced for me over and over again.
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Now, would you say that these entities, some of them
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are malevolent and some of them are benevolent?
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Yeah, exactly. You know, like Jesus said, you will know
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them by their deeds, by their fruit. What are they producing?
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And that's an eternal saying that applies basically across the board,
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and basically you just have to look at investigations. You
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just have to look at what are they doing, what
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are they creating. And some of them clearly are malevolent.
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Some of them clearly have these experiences, create these experiences
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where they produce nothing but darkness, terror, and horror for people.
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That's all they create. But some of them, you look
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at the experiences and they're doing positive things. They do
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positive things, they do good things, they create, they come
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and do things that can only be interpreted as being
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positive and mostly and that happens a lot in because
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I've talked to the subjects, I've talked to the people
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who have had diseases healed by multi dimensional alien visitors
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that they've come in contact with who have had their
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lives improved, who have even have special abilities that have
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been increased in them through their contact with alien visitors.
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So there's so there's no way around the fact that
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there are alien visitors that are malevolent, and there are
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some that are benevolent. There are for our that look
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upon us as brothers, as people that they wish beings
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that they wish to support, to uplift and to help.
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And that's that's what I get from the witnesses that
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I have spoken to.
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Do you ever get the sense that some of them
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are somewhat maybe harvesting energy in a way from humans.
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Absolutely, that's one of the primary functions with malevolent alien
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visitors that they have set up this planet for and
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that they have set up structures for, especially working with
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the elite powers in control, they have set up a
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system where they collect collect this They collect many of
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these negative emotions from us that produce an energy, a
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type of energy that benefits them, that helps them, and
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that they seek out, as well as the harvesting of
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bodies and people that they appear to take away from
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us every year, and that's something. Those are arrangements that
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are made with the elite powers in control who have
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made these arrangements since since long long ago, and in
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exchange for some of our bodies that go to them,
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they receive they receive continued control over us, over humanity,
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and we receive also technology as well, it appears, and
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that's what all every investigation that you do in this
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area always leads back to these basic truths that it
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seemed to occur.
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Now, you kind of let into one of my questions
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about the elite powers in control. Now, how far do
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you think this communication or this odd relationship between these
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entities and these the elite powers in control have gone on.
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Well, I think they've always gone on. But there are
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certain high points where we can look back in history
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and we can see that the malevolent alien visitors were
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coming together with the elite powers in control to try
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to establish a higher order of relationship with more commerce
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going back and forth. And one of those points was
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World War two when when Hitler and the Nazis were
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working closely with some malevolent alien visitors that were giving
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them technology that were giving them the ability to win
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the war with and had UFOs on their side working
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with them, and we saw that terrible clash in Antarctica
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when we had we had a Navy battalion sailing over
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to Nu Schwaben Land in Antarctica to destroy Hitler's forces
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out there, Operation Hyjump exactly, Operation High Jump Admiral byrd
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And what happened we had a bunch we know from
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pieces of the diary of Admiral Bird's diary and other
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interviews that he gave before he was shut down, we
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know that a fleet of UFOs came out and destroyed
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the United States battalion that was that was on its
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way out there and destroyed them, just took them apart
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and ed mc bird had to had to abort the
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operation and go home. Basically, so we know that at
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that time there was a section portion of malevolent alien
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visitors that were working with Hitler. But for some reason
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at the end, at the end, they decided to pull
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the plug on him. Because he had he had everything
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that he needed to win the war right and he
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had and he had the UFOs on his side. He
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had everything, but they decided to pull the plug on him.
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visitors that that decided to uh to stop that, and
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but whatever the reason was, they pulled the plug on
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him and uh and decided that no, this was not
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the time and this was not the place, and they
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were not going to help him win ultimately. And so
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that's that's one of the high points of cooperation with
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the elite powers and Control and the and the malevolent
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alien visitors. Another one was just a short time later Roswell,
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the Roswell Crash, when the malevolent alien Visitors and the
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elite Powers and Control created this hyped up alien physical
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craft suppose it, that was crashed by the side of
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the road to show everybody that alien visitors are just
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like us, that they're just physical. You know, you can
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have a car crash and you can end up dead
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by the side of the road, and they're just like us.
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So that happened to them, and there's the hybrid bodies
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that we got out of the ship. But they also
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accomplished another point that they wanted, which was to transfer
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technology to the nations, and that's why we had in
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nineteen forty seven this huge explosion of technology to all
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the nations, which really happened from that from the Roswell crash.
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And so yeah, so that's another high point, and that
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was really the high point of cooperation between alien visitors
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and the elite powers and control when they decided to
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send out the mandate to all nations that any truth
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about UFOs or alien visitors had to be covered up
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and denied by any nation anywhere in the world. And
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that has basically been rock solid wall against truth in
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this area since nineteen forty seven and now since last year,
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of course, as you know, as you know, Chris, we
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had this little crack in that wall where CNN and
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New York Times have been ordered to treat UFOs as real,
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as something real and serious that they have to really
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talk about. And they look really confused when they're doing it,
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because this is against their orders that they had for
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so long, and you can see the pain on their
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faces as they're sitting there doing these interviews. But anyway,
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but that's a very very tiny in that truth embargo,
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a very small one. But we need to take advantage
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of it and keep pressing in this area for truth
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and to bring down that wall, bring down that wall
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against truth so that we can really start spreading the
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truth of what's really going on in this area. And
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when you take advantage of that now.
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Now, as for bringing down that wall, do you think
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disclosure would ever come from our government or will it
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come from these entities or will it ever come?
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Oh no, We're going to have revelation, not not really disclosure,
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because the governments don't really have anything to disclose. I
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think we're going to have, for instance, we're going to
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have some of the release of the alien technology that
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is at Antarctica right now, where all the nations are
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kind of jockeying for a portion of that right now.
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And I think we are going to have that. But
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it's not going to be a disclosure because the governments
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cannot admit that they've had the ability to stop disease
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and to give free energy for forty fifty years. They
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can't knowing, they cannot reveal that. They can't admit that
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that will never be admitted. They can't because that would
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be that would be beyond the worst thing they could
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ever admit. But I think there will be released and
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there will be a revelation of this alien tech, of
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this superior technology that is going to be coming out
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very soon, and I think it's going to be through
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It's going to be through putin through Trump and other
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world leaders as well, and they're going to democratize a
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lot of this technology, and I think it's going to
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be happening pretty pretty soon.
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Very interesting. Now you mentioned Antarctica, and you know a
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couple of years ago they had the buzz Aldrin and
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John Kerry and all these world leaders visiting Antarctica, And
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is this the reason why they're going check out all
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this ancient alien tech.
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Well, that's part of it. Another part of it, it seems,
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is that they are being summoned to Antarctica because there's
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something alive there, something that is above human and that
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is alive, and that is summoning these world leaders to
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go there, because that's the only explanation there could be
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for somebody like Secretary of State John Kerry to drop
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everything on election night and when he should be, he
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should be with Obama in a room strategizing what they're
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going to do, and instead he drops everything and suddenly
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he gets on the plane, which is actually like five
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different planes that you have to get on in order
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to get to antire Arctica over like a period of
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like fifteen hours or so. And the only reason he
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would do that is because he's being summoned to go there.
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The same thing with the Eastern Orthodox Pope, the Pope
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of Eastern Orthodoxy, all, who's a man who's like in
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his eighties, and he is the Pope of the entire
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Eastern Orthodox religion. And he had not only did he
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have to run down to Antarctica all of a sudden,
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but he had to go meet with the Catholic Pope,
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the first time they've ever met in like a thousand years.
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He had to go meet with him, get some notes
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from him, and then run down to Antarctica. Why because
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he's being summoned first by someone who is more powerful
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than any national leader apparently. I mean, that's the only
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explanation I see, just from what I know of human behavior,
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especially of high political leaders like this. This guy is
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not subject to any nation, a national leader, and yet
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he ran, He ran like a dog in a race
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to go to Antarctica on just a moment's notice. And
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that's the only way that these guys have to go
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to Antarctica so quickly is because they are being summoned
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by something. There is something in Antarctica that is not human,
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that is alive, and that has authority I guess to
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be able to summon these different political leaders to have
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to come there and hold court with this thing, whatever
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it is.
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Wow, that is fascinating. And to think that there is
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an entity that has been there, and that leads me
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to there's theories that Antarctica could have been Atlantis. What
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are your thoughts on that.
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Well, I think Atlantis is according to all of the
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alternative skill that I have listened to and seen, it
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seems pretty convincing that Atlantis is not a continent, It's
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not one country. It's Atlantis was basically the entire world,
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the entire Earth one layer below before. It was basically
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what the entire world was before, during a previous incarnation,
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before the recorded history of Man. So I think that
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Atlantis is not just Antarctica. If it was, I mean
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very well could be. But even if it is, it's
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Atlantis was not just Antarctica. It was probably the entire
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planet at that point where we were in a much
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more advanced state. We were in a much more a
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much higher state of technology, and we had much more
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communing with what you call the gods. And that's that's
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the age of Man. That was the Atlantis age that
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was going.
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On, right, and want that kind of brings me back
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to the extra dimensional theory. Now, do you think we
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live in a multiverse where we live in multiple realities
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at one time?
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Absolutely, and we do. Anybody who goes to sleep in
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dreams can see that that's the case. We have many
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realities going on constantly. But what's funny about about this
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reality is that if you look at the evidence that's
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all around us, we have so much to consider even
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in just a single reality before we start going off
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to all the different multidimensional realities. It appears that the
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reason why we have no life currently, I mean, and
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this is hard for people to accept, it appears that
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in this dimension, in this physical reality, it appears there's
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no life out there. There's no life out there currently
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going on because of Firmi's paradox. They would be here already.
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They would be here openly, they would be they would
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be openly making commerce with us and so forth. But
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we see when you get ready, when you get through
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the fakery of NASA and the other space agencies and
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you go look at the real pictures what's going on,
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you see that there's ruins and structures on Mars, on
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the Moon, on the dark side of the Moon Jose
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Escamilla's work, you can see that other planets in our
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Solar system have built structures, have civilization gridlines that are there.
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I mean, there's pictures of things on Mars that appear
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to be currently functioning, appear to be going on right now,
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and as long as you don't look at the fakery
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of NASA and all the other state space agency, you
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can see what's really going on. So what it looks like,
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and the same is true here on Earth. There's this
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entire grid pattern talking about Atlantis of structures and things
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from the previous age of man supposedly, and that could
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not have been built by even our present state of technology.
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So what that says to me is that it appears
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that our own reality, like they said, like they say
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in the movie The Matrix, it appears that there have
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been several iterations of our civilization, of our human civilization
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maybe maybe human, maybe mixed with other things too, that
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have happened have come to an end. But instead of
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just erasing all of our reality and start clean, they
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basically have used the same matrix of this physical reality
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and just kind of superimposed us on top of it
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over and over again. That's what it looks like to me,
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which is a really wild thought, because why wouldn't they
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just erase that and start over. Apparently they haven't, because
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that's why we see all these ruins that appear to
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exist on almost every planet in our Solar system, and
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yet there's no life going on there currently except for us.
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So that's a strange thing to consider when you're looking
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at even just one reality.
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Wow. So that being said, it could be a lot
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easier to make contact with these entities than NASA is
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trying to do by sending out probes and all this stuff.
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We may be just be able to meditate or go
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within ourselves to contact exactly.
485
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You have a greater chance of contacting extra dimensional extraterrestrials
486
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.200
by going into a good deep meditation than by locking
487
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.880
yourself into some tin can being shot off into space,
488
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because they ain't out there. They're here with us right now,
489
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.160
and all you have to do is be able to
490
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.559
penetrate these levels, these vade us, these locusts, and be
491
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.039
able to penetrate to the next level, which we can
492
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.240
do we have because the trick is because they are
493
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.960
these creatures are extra dimensional in nature. But the real
494
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.720
trick is we are also extra dimensional in nature because
495
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.119
we have that within ourselves, and so we need to
496
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.359
learn how to reach out on our own and be
497
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.400
able to contact these creatures, the benevolent ones hopefully and
498
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.160
be able to see what our next steps are going
499
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.279
to be from here so we can reach our potential
500
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.839
potential that we really need to reach.
501
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:43.079
So do you think that's what outfits like CERN is
502
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.680
trying to do? Maybe break through that veil.
503
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.759
Very possible, But according to everything I've seen from them,
504
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:54.359
they're not reaching out for the benevolent creatures. They appear
505
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.160
to be working with the malevolent ones. Because I see
506
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.759
a big old statue of Collie, thank Goddess outside of
507
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.519
their offices, right at their main headquarters building, and that's
508
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.480
not a good harbinger what they're what they're up to. So, yeah,
509
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.720
we need to we need to stop paying attention to
510
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:19.799
agencies like NASA that have been proven too that are
511
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.759
dedicated to making us all look in the wrong direction,
512
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.200
to make us keep us looking up at empty space,
513
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.680
and to keep us in that frame of thought where
514
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.799
we're always looking at the wrong things and we're thinking
515
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.759
that space travel is something that is going to help
516
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.319
us it's for our benefit. It's not gonna It's the
517
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.839
reason they push space travels so much is not for
518
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.839
our benefit. It's to benefit the nations. It's to benefit
519
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.799
what they want, which is that they want mining. They
520
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.119
want to get their hands on some of those ruins
521
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.440
I was just talking about, because they can get because
522
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.519
it means power. For the nations, that's what they want.
523
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:11.839
They always seek power, and that means mining, mining colonies,
524
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:16.440
that means getting their hands on alien tech, on things
525
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:22.200
that give them power. But for us, that probably means slavery,
526
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.079
having to actually work those minds and having to work
527
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.559
rest getting some of this technology, which is not going
528
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.480
to be good for us. It's only going to be
529
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.119
good for the nations. That just increases their power. That's
530
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:35.000
what they really want.
531
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.240
So do you think we currently have something going on,
532
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.440
possibly on Mars, maybe on the Moon.
533
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.839
I believe we probably do, but that's probably under the
534
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.079
Secret Space Program, which is maintained out of the reach
535
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.240
of NASA and the regular space agencies. Above their level.
536
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.799
They may participate like in a compartment mentalized way where
537
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.200
you know you have to produce certain widgets to help
538
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.559
the Secret Space Program, but you don't even know what
539
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.920
you're doing yourself because you're not told. So they could
540
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:16.599
have limited involvement in that way, but doesn't mean they
541
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.320
have any the real information on the secret space program
542
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.719
as far as how it's how it actually works. But
543
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.440
I'm sure it works with and this is just speculation
544
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:30.639
of my part. I'm sure that it works with jump pads,
545
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:38.400
jump platforms, teleportation, not like locking yourself in a tin
546
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.119
can and being fired into space. I don't think it.
547
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.360
I'm sure it does not work that way. But yes,
548
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.519
to answer your question, ultimately, I believe because of all,
549
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:53.159
I do believe that we have colonies, very possibly have
550
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.400
colonies working on Mars right now. And the real thing
551
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.199
that convinces me that that is true is the amount
552
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.159
of these fake whistleblowers that have been sent forward to
553
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.920
make us believe the opposite. In other words, you know,
554
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.840
they sent forward these uh, these uh, these very carefully
555
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:18.440
groomed fake whistleblowers that say, yeah, I was I was
556
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.079
on the I was in Mars with Obama. I was
557
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.679
with him, and we were both young kids, and we
558
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.599
were working the mind out there, and there was a
559
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.000
bunch of kids out there, and it's been going on
560
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.679
for forty years and and with without a shred of evidence.
561
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.599
You know, there's a there's a great saying. There's a
562
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:39.400
saying that science that PhDs like to say academics that
563
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:46.800
great claims require great evidence. Well, having been a lawyer,
564
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.400
uh for a long time, having been in the in
565
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.079
the court system for a very long time, I I
566
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.760
know that that's not true. That happens not to be true.
567
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.719
Great claims do not require great evidence, They absolutely don't.
568
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:06.639
What they require is great claims require some evidence, some evidence,
569
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:11.480
just enough to survive emotion to dismiss, because whatever you
570
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.079
say is true, there's always going to be cynics and
571
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.960
scientists that come forward to say, oh, that's not true.
572
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:18.559
We got to get rid of that. Just get rid
573
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.000
of it, don't don't even consider it. And if you
574
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:25.000
have some evidence, i mean just some of what you're
575
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:31.159
saying is true, then you're able to survive that motion
576
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.920
to dismiss, and you're able to put forward to the
577
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.199
fact finder, which in this case is used. The audience
578
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.760
is the people listening, they're the fact. They're the people
579
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.000
who are going to decide is this a fact? It's
580
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.400
not a fact, maybe it is. They're the ones who
581
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.920
have to decide, and if you just have some evidence,
582
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:50.639
just something that backs up what you're saying, you're able
583
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.280
to push that forward. And you have and you will
584
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.280
survive that motion to dismiss, and you will have it
585
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.440
in front of the audience, who then can decide, can
586
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.320
put base tests and say Okay, this is credible or
587
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.320
this is not credible. And that's what we need to
588
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:11.280
always do. And so when somebody comes forward and says, yeah,
589
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:15.199
I was with Obama on Mars, and I was, you know,
590
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.880
they don't have to have great evidence, they don't. They
591
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.840
just have to have something, something that they can show
592
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.800
and say, you know, this is what it is. Here,
593
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.800
it is, you know, and now you consider it, You
594
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.800
consider whether it's credible or not. Otherwise, yeah, you got
595
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.320
to you gotta dismiss that stuff if it's not. But
596
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.320
the amount of these guys, the amount of these guys
597
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.639
that have come forward with this Mars you know, uh, people,
598
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.440
they are designed to fail. They are designed to make
599
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.320
us believe that they have to be dismissed, that this
600
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.880
whole secret space program thing, Mars colonies on Mars, that
601
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.360
it's all bs, it's all nonsense, and rightfully so that's
602
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.159
all very predictable behavior. If you if somebody comes forward
603
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.840
and makes it claim like that, and the trick is this,
604
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.360
those guys are put forward on purpose in order to
605
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.800
make to make the whole subject matter be frozen in
606
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:24.079
a context of bizarreness and stupidity so that no one
607
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.159
ever again will look at this area and say, yeah,
608
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.559
I guess that could be true now, Because that's why
609
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:35.440
these whistleblowers are put forward, the ridiculous ones, the ones
610
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:40.199
that are just saying crazy stuff with no evidence whatsoever,
611
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.039
no evidence because remember, you don't need great evidence, but
612
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.360
you do need some and they're put forward on purpose.
613
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.559
And when you see that, you have to I, as
614
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.360
an investigator, right away, I think this is an op.
615
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.039
This is some kind of psychological operation to cover this area. Why,
616
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:04.360
because are worried. They're worried that you, Chris, are going
617
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.960
to dig into this and that you are going to say, Hey,
618
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.639
there's there's the pictures, the ones that NASA didn't want.
619
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:12.159
Us to see.
620
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.599
There's these pictures, these pictures, there's this this, and there's
621
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:19.039
testimony here, and yeah, it looks like we have colonies
622
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.960
people on Mars. It looks like they're there and they
623
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.360
don't want that. So that's why you're going to see
624
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:32.320
more of not not not credible whistleblowers, but ridiculous ones,
625
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:34.920
and you're gonna have the have them come forward more
626
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.599
and more, and you're always going to see that in
627
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.639
the area of Mars colonies and all of that makes
628
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.840
me absolutely believe, as I do now that we do
629
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.440
have colonies on Mars, and that's why they're trying to
630
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:48.480
cover it up so much.
631
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.519
Yes, I agree. And speaking of the misdirection, what do
632
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:55.920
you what are your thoughts on the Trump's space force.
633
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.920
I think that the Trump space force is not what
634
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.039
it appears to be. With Trump, nothing ever is, because
635
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:11.159
he thinks at a different level than everybody else's. He's
636
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.360
he's a devote of Sun Sioux if you've ever if
637
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.840
you've ever read that, he's complete devotee of Sun Sue
638
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:25.519
methods of war. And what that was. When he did
639
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.360
that announcement of a space force, he did that for
640
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:34.000
one reason, for one main, primary reason, and that was
641
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.679
his announcement to the elite powers in control that he
642
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:44.800
is coming for their secret space program and he's bringing
643
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.760
an army with him. That was basically that was the
644
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:54.280
primary purpose of that whole space force thing, because right
645
00:40:54.320 --> 00:41:00.000
now they have this tremendous specret space program that as
646
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.559
the orbs economic power from all the nations, black money,
647
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.159
that takes black money from all the nations, especially the
648
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:11.039
United States. You know, there's trillions that are missing at
649
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:15.639
the Pentagon over how many years, And the same is
650
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.920
true from the other industrialized companies countries. And so you've
651
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.920
got all these resources and you've got all this secret
652
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.599
space program going on, and they are above the presidents
653
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.199
and the prime ministers. The prime ministers are not read
654
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.480
into this program. Neither are the presidents. But now there's
655
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.519
one president who basically made an announcement that he is
656
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.239
coming and he is going to participate in that secret
657
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.159
space program, and not only that, he's going to take
658
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.480
it over. And that's what that announcement was all about.
659
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:50.599
It's pretty wild.
660
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.599
So you believe Trump is genuinely trying to take down
661
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:56.480
the cabal.
662
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.360
Well, that's part of what he's trying to do. He's
663
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.239
also but it's not just him. This is a worldwide
664
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:08.559
movement that includes putin who is That includes all of
665
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.440
the nationalists populist leaders who are currently in the state
666
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:17.039
of global rebellion against the elite powers in control that
667
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:23.400
have that have dominated our nation and our planet for
668
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.400
how long. I mean, I couldn't even how long through
669
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:31.400
using the central banking systems and everything else, but yet,
670
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.800
but basically for the first time, and I don't know
671
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:39.239
how long, probably since the French Revolution, we have a
672
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.920
group of nationalist populist leaders that are and this is
673
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:47.880
much bigger than Trump, who are who have openly declared
674
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.079
rebellion against the elite powers in control, against the central
675
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:56.360
banking dynasties, against these all of these powers that sit
676
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.440
above the nations and that give them their orders every
677
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.199
every day. And that space force thing was just a giant,
678
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.039
a big slap in the face to them basically to
679
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.559
tell them that he is coming. And also the space
680
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.679
Force also is another method that I believe he's going
681
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:18.239
to use to democratize, to let out and democratize some
682
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:23.679
of this, uh, this alien space technology, this alien technology
683
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.320
that is going to be given to all of us.
684
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.880
And he's going to probably use the space Force because
685
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.079
you can't do like we said before, he can't do
686
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.400
disclosure from the governments. He can't do that. But I
687
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.199
believe he is looking for a way to let out
688
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.920
this technology and say, oh, the Space Force came up
689
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.679
with this. You know, they they found it, they got
690
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.679
it through here or through there. And who's gonna who's
691
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.800
going to contradict him? You know, nobody's going to say, hey,
692
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.079
that didn't come from the Space Force. That came from
693
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.199
from us, from the elite powers and control.
694
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:56.119
We we had that.
695
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.480
Tech for a long time. Yeah, you're you're just saying
696
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.760
that you got from the Nobody's gonna do that, So
697
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.079
it's perfect. It's perfect on many levels for him to
698
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:05.480
do that.
699
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.239
Well, that would be that would be great if that could,
700
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.679
you know, that could come to pass. And I'd like
701
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.719
to take the last few minutes to talk a little
702
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.079
bit about one of your more recent books, Clear Hearers.
703
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.719
Could you explain to us what exactly are clear hearers?
704
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:26.880
Yes. Clear hearers are people who have an ability, which
705
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:33.960
is an ancient ability to perceive a great voice of authority,
706
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.679
great voice of authority that comes in not through the ears,
707
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:43.119
but from basically everywhere else. And it is it is
708
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.199
an ability. It is not it's not like a voice hearers.
709
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.039
Voice hearers are people have a medical condition where they
710
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:56.360
hear voices. H a clear hearer hears receives a single
711
00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:01.599
voice of authority that comes in to help them, to
712
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.199
uplift them, sometimes to save their lives. And it is
713
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.159
something that is named after It's actually named after Joan
714
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:11.239
of Arc, who was the fourteen year old girl in
715
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.960
the fourteenth century who saved France from going out of
716
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:20.519
existence when France had basically been overrun by the English,
717
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.679
and ninety percent of France had been taken over by
718
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.599
the English, and they were basically about to go out
719
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:30.719
of existence, and then a miracle happened and Joan of
720
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.000
Arc had these voices come to her, and she said
721
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.280
the voice was the voices were Mother Mary. That's how
722
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.519
she described it. She and this with the voices that
723
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.000
told her what to do, how to go forward, and
724
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that she would be the savior of France. And so
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00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.079
the word claire audience. Claire audient came from Joan of
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00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.960
Arc in France, which is actually a French word. Clear
727
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.559
Heroes is the first English iteration of this word claire audience,
728
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.159
which just means to hear clearly, clear hearing, and so
729
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.119
and there have been many other historical figures that also
730
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:11.599
had the same abilities Winston Churchill. But in his case,
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his advisors said that it was because he would be
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blackout drunk and so he would hear voices. And there's
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many other there's many other figures. Philip K. Dick, Philip K. Dick,
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00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:27.639
the great writer. He actually had a public press conference
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about his great voice that would come to him and
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speak to him and tell him. Also Socrates. Socrates called
737
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.719
his voice his great damon damon, and it was a
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00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.360
voice that would come to him when he was about
739
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to make a bad decision.
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So Clear Heroes is.
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Basically my investigation of in my own life as well
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and the lives of others, of this voice, where it
743
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comes from, what it is, and how people can use
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00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.199
that use it to their advantage, and how it can
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help them in their everyday lives.
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And what would you say? The source of this voice is.
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00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:11.360
Well, the way that I have investigated this to me,
748
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I believe that I reveal in this book what I
749
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.159
believe ultimately the source is, which I believe is the
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00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:23.639
person themselves, but on a multi dimensional level, because like
751
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.639
I said before, we are ourselves extra dimensional as well,
752
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:32.639
and so it is this version of you that is
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00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.360
in the eternal It is a version of you that
754
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.159
basically barely remembers what it was like to be a
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00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:44.320
human being chasing after stuff. But it is this great
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00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.280
and grand, eternal version of you that still feels a
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00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:51.920
connection to you, and that looks back at you and
758
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.760
will always have love for you and want to support
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00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.840
and uplift you. That is ultimately the source of that
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00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.159
great voice. And I make the case for that in
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00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:01.599
my book.
762
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.119
That's very interesting. So it could even be a distant
763
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:10.800
future version of you, but in a different, different reality.
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00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:14.400
Right And that does not preclude the other answers that
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00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.320
I investigate in my book as well. It doesn't preclude
766
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.880
alien that could be an alien visitor, because that could
767
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be your form in the future, or angels that could
768
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be your form in the future. You know, we don't know,
769
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:32.119
because the ultimately, the extra dimensional reality of this is
770
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.679
something beyond our ability to understand. Right now.
771
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.960
Wow, fascinating stuff and thank you for that, and I
772
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appreciate you coming on, John, Do you have anything interesting
773
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.400
coming up that you'd like to talk about?
774
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.840
Absolutely? Yes, I have to talk about my conferences conference
775
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.480
I have coming up in October. I have let me
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get it, get it, get It, Get it. I have
777
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:04.159
my conference coming up in October which will be a
778
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:09.280
very great conference which looks like I just moved it
779
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from where I had it and it will be in Pasadena,
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California in October, and we will be with Neil Gower
781
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and many many other great, great speakers and we're very
782
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.199
excited for it, and I unfortunately I moved it from
783
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:39.840
my thing here and I will also be I'll be
784
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.119
having a conference soon in China, which is I'm signing
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00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:49.320
up for now, which will be really really something. So yeah,
786
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I have a lot of things coming up. Just finished
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Contact in the Desert, and we will be having a
788
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:00.400
lot a lot of great events coming up that I
789
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.320
hope people can get out to and spend time with
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us doing this stuff.
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Definitely, definitely. And I'm going to leave a link to
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your site and your books and our description. John, thank
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you again so much for joining us tonight. We'd love
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to have you back on and you have a great night.
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Thanks, thanks man, Thanks so much. It's great being on
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here with you.
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Awesome. Let's talk to you later. Hi, I'd like to
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00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:34.960
welcome Captain Randy Kramer. How you doing tonight, Randy.
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I'm good. I'm in Washington State right now, and we're
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in a bit of a cold snap, so it's in
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the twenties, so BurrH But I'm good.
802
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.960
Yeah, And you're in a interesting situation tonight. I understand
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you don't have good connection in your house, So are
804
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you actually broadcasting from your car? There?
805
00:50:56.679 --> 00:51:00.800
I am there. I'm actually piggybacking on the fi of
806
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a restaurant that I go to all the time that
807
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.320
has pretty decent Wi Fi. And my roommates, who are
808
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wonderful people, don't believe in having Wi Fi now, So
809
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if I could plug in a hard line to my phone,
810
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which I can't, then that would work. And my laptop
811
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is really just an antique and it doesn't do my
812
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:21.679
Zoom very well. It doesn't do my Skype very well.
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00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.599
I lose audio all the time, and so I've just
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given up trying to use it to do audio video
815
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.480
conference calls and interviews on my computer because it's just
816
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.199
a piece of crap. So yeah, that's the situation, right.
817
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.159
So I'm a little shadowy in my image there, but
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I'm here.
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00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.119
I promise, like I said, We're gonna make it work.
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00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.559
And Randy has a fascinating story. I don't know if
821
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.360
any of my subscribers have heard this, but we're going
822
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.079
to delve deep into it. We're going to get to
823
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.760
as much as possible in the time we have. But first,
824
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for those who aren't familiar with the secrets program in general, Randy,
825
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.079
could you give us a little just a brief overview
826
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.199
of what the twenty and back program entails.
827
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.360
Well, it's been pretty standard dase on us COVID table.
828
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.360
Can you hear me here? How you look here? Yeah?
829
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:22.280
You froze up there for a second. I can hear
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00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:23.039
you now, though.
831
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.039
I think I just have bad connection. Let's see if
832
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.239
I see if I pull forward a couple of feet,
833
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.360
if that helps, I might get an extra bar out
834
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:36.559
of that. So it's pretty standard fair for a number
835
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.239
to get the maximum value of personnel to do a
836
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.400
twenty year tour. So and for most people who aren't
837
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:47.239
quote unquote volunteers for these programs, they have to reinsert
838
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.880
you back into the timeline that they took you from,
839
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:57.840
uh to relive your life without sort of having missing
840
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:02.320
that twenty years. So in my case, I was taken
841
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away from my tour of duty when I was seventeen
842
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.679
years old. At about two thirty am in the morning
843
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:14.679
and was returned both twenty years later and fifteen minutes
844
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:19.960
later to forty five the same night. So they go
845
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.599
through a process which they coggression. My understanding of the
846
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.639
process is they actually hatch out a fresh cloned body
847
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.920
for you, age it up to the age that they
848
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.360
took you from, stick you your entire consciousness and your
849
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.800
spiritual soul being, which they can do. I know that
850
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:35.679
may sound weird to some people if that's the first
851
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.880
time they're hearing. This can be extracted from your body
852
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:40.840
as a vessel and put into another vessel, and they
853
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.760
put it into another copy of yourself and then return
854
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.280
you fifty minutes later. So you wake up the next
855
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.519
day feeling like you had a really long I'm here again,
856
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:55.400
So you just kind of presume in your brain and
857
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.360
your body that you're just right back where you started from.
858
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:04.840
Even there are some residual, repressed memories that kind of
859
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.039
bleed through almost immediately, but without a linear context, it
860
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.519
doesn't make any sense. So I didn't really start to
861
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.360
get what I would say a barrage of linear memories
862
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.199
for almost a decade after that, which was just very
863
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:23.960
confusing at the time. And then it took another decade
864
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.920
really to get what I would call total recall, where
865
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.119
I've recovered and recall every memory my entire experience frontwards
866
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.559
back from day one to the last day, or at
867
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.199
least as the best that most people can recall a
868
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.039
twenty year period of time, or a twenty year tour
869
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:38.440
of duty.
870
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.039
So how old were you when you had that total recall?
871
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.679
I was about thirty seven.
872
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.880
You said you were about thirty seven.
873
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.039
Correct, about thirty seven years old, So it was about
874
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:58.039
twenty years after I did my tour, which I've I've
875
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.840
spoken to an a lot of people. I get emails
876
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.760
from people all the time who are having difficulties recovering
877
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.559
memories and are asking me for guidance in that area.
878
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.760
And it's a similar kind of process for a lot
879
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:13.920
of people. A lot of people start to get their
880
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.760
memories between sort of ten twelve years after their tour,
881
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:21.039
and people who have gone about another almost twenty years
882
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:24.320
post their tour, if they've done some work on it,
883
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.119
have regained a large chunk of their memories by that time.
884
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.880
Some people, though, if they haven't done the memory recall
885
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:34.639
personal memory recall process, whether that's either hypnotic regressions or
886
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:39.760
personal meditative data state regressions. Then I've known people in
887
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.000
their late thirties, early forties, late forties who are still
888
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.440
extracting memories from their experiences. So it depends on at
889
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.000
what point you decide to dive into it and chew
890
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.840
up that shit pizza.
891
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.159
So most people that have gone through this program, or
892
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.800
a lot of them, are my lab victims therebducted from
893
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.599
a young age and kind of groomed for the program.
894
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:08.400
But your experience was a little different, is that right correct?
895
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.800
United States Maring Corps Special Section in the mid sixties
896
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.840
did a study on the effects of these sort of
897
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:24.000
what we call it the trauma based mind control technique
898
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:29.719
trained a lot so that it was very ineffective to
899
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.239
the lifespan and effectiveness of the personnel that were being
900
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.400
trained or persecuted that way. Really, so they came up
901
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.559
with another idea and suggested some changes, which a number
902
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.199
of agencies at the table rejected and decided that they
903
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.800
didn't want to change that, that they'd rather have murder
904
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:48.000
machines that they could snap their fingers who would kill
905
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:53.960
on command. And so USMCSS started its own program and
906
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.119
started training its soldiers using what we simply call a
907
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.719
with the grain technique, which, instead of trying to break
908
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:06.360
people in order to make them pliable, it uses deep
909
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:12.679
subliminal messaging and programming from an early age to essentially
910
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:17.239
train them as better soldiers. Which better soldiers really, their
911
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.880
goal is not to just murder people. Their goal is
912
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:25.239
to complete a mission while using lethal force if necessary,
913
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.960
and not necessarily just murdering people at the snap of
914
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.519
a finger. So that's a basic gist of it. I
915
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.280
could go into quite a bit more detail about that,
916
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.519
but for the sake of time, we'll just call that
917
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.599
simplicity the simple answer.
918
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:44.760
So what about your personal experience? I mean, you were
919
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.199
I guess you could say grown in a sort of
920
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.079
Petri dish.
921
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.079
Well, yeah, I mean I was engineered from the ground up.
922
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.639
So my DNA was sex segments of my DNA were
923
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.880
taken from my mother, from my father, put together like
924
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.440
most people are normally. But then my DNA sequence was
925
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.480
laid out and the parts that they wanted to take
926
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:11.840
out were removed, and then they put in some extraterrestrial
927
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.519
DNA sets and wound that up again into the nuclei
928
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.960
of the cells and put me back into my mother's
929
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.320
womb where I was just stated and then born.
930
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:26.079
So what age do you remember any type of training
931
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:26.920
that you went through.
932
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:32.119
I can remember training as early as about age four
933
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:36.760
four and a half, like really really young, like able
934
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:40.000
to you know, motor walk and move, but not in
935
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.400
any way what I would say. I mean, most four
936
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.119
year olds aren't really hand eye coordinated. So we weren't,
937
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.320
you know, practicing martial arts at that age or practicing
938
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:51.639
with rifles or pistols at that age. But we were
939
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:56.320
practicing group activities, learning how to work as a team,
940
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.559
hide and seek things that you know, were the brain
941
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.960
and the body, and training us how to work as
942
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:06.000
a group and as a unit. So very early, early
943
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:10.159
early training like that was not so militaristic so much
944
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.480
as it was behavioralistic.
945
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.480
So I assume your combat training started at a little
946
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.559
bit eight a later.
947
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:22.599
Age, probably yeah, by about six or seven.
948
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:24.039
Wow.
949
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:26.320
So by the time a six or seven year old,
950
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.480
can you know, has the hand eye coordination to start
951
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:33.360
learning martial arts and the ability to start handling tools
952
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.760
and weapons. So we started learning, yeah, probably about six
953
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.559
six and a half, not you know before seven years old.
954
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:43.840
Now, did you have like a normal family situation.
955
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:49.639
Oh, absolutely, these the training periods, you're essentially you're taken
956
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:53.840
away at night, uh, and then brought back again. Typical
957
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.320
fair is fifteen minutes after you're left. So there are
958
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.880
trace amounts of time travel that are involved in this.
959
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:06.000
So my parents had no idea until I gave them
960
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.000
a briefing on this way about seven years ago. So
961
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:11.400
they now, My mother and father both did say when
962
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.320
I gave them that briefing, Oh, that makes a lot
963
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.639
of things make sense. So there were ripples, you know,
964
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:20.960
throughout my childhood that gave them the impression that something
965
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.840
unusual was going on. But in the same way that
966
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:27.280
my waking memories didn't have a linear experience to connect
967
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.199
the dots to neither today. So most people, when you
968
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.039
have weird anomalist things occurring and you don't have a
969
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:36.920
linear set of dots to connect, your brain tends to
970
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:41.280
just reject any unusual explanations and go for something that's
971
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.480
much more mundane or normal, because you know, you don't
972
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.960
want to be too weird or too crazy as far
973
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.719
as most other people are concerned. So you know, our
974
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.840
brain tends to normalize our own socialization based on the
975
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:54.840
world that we live in.
976
01:00:56.199 --> 01:01:00.480
So were you, I guess, basically aware that time that
977
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:01.920
you were being taken at night.
978
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:08.079
I had residual memories of experiences during the day that
979
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679
I just couldn't again put all the dots together, so
980
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:13.920
and I knew that I wasn't supposed to talk about
981
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.360
any of these things, and I was also inhibited from
982
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.800
talking about it. There were times when I felt like
983
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.039
I wanted to try and say something, or I wanted
984
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.480
to try and talk about it to someone, but would
985
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.280
literally open my mouth and be unable to make words.
986
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:33.559
So even it was didn't take long in my youth
987
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:37.119
before I just simply gave up trying to communicate about
988
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.639
it because I understood that even when I did try
989
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.679
to talk about these things, I was physically incapable of
990
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.000
doing so, So I, you know, didn't talk about it
991
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.400
because I couldn't. But again, mostly because you don't have
992
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:57.239
this complete dots to connective memories. It's residual things, residual impressions, flashes,
993
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:02.159
the ability to do things biome mechanically. You know, the
994
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.559
first time that I, as a very young child, that
995
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:08.320
I exhibited the ability to just automatically perform a act
996
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.320
of physical self defense. I was as shocked, I think,
997
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.039
as anybody else who was watching what happened, because I
998
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.400
had no idea from that point of experience to understand
999
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.039
how in the world I had been how I learned
1000
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.320
martial arts without training that I remember, without going to
1001
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.360
classes that I remember taking basically, so I had the
1002
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.159
residual memories of it. I knew there was something there,
1003
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.000
but again, without a linear set of dots to connect,
1004
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.519
I was just as eager in my frontal lobe to
1005
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:38.000
go now there's nothing to that as anybody else would be,
1006
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.000
because I didn't want to be abnormal or unusual. I
1007
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.800
really just wanted to be normal like everybody else. And
1008
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:48.880
accepting that there was something more going on with those
1009
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.440
residual memories or the dreams that I would have that
1010
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.880
were essentially replays of some of those events and some
1011
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.079
of those training exercises, you know, that would have just
1012
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.480
meant that I was not like everybody else, and I
1013
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.599
didn't want to not be like everybody else. So I
1014
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:05.199
didn't even want to go there as far as my
1015
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:06.320
frontal lobe was concerned.
1016
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.280
And how do you know that these memories aren't just
1017
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.800
implanted or screen memories that were placed there.
1018
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.400
That's a fair question, and I will say that the
1019
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:21.760
answer to that is over time, as in my late twenties,
1020
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:23.519
when it started to become more and more clear that
1021
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:27.840
there was something more, As these memories became more vivid,
1022
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:32.079
more consistent, more dots to connect. I undertook a very
1023
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:35.400
serious process to get to the bottom of these memories
1024
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.639
by diving into my subconscious and extracting them. And I
1025
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:46.079
spent thousands of hours for several years in deep meditative
1026
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:48.960
states with a mantra that was I want the truth,
1027
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:50.880
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, no matter what.
1028
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:55.440
And I would often come up from a deep meditative
1029
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.119
experience with a set of memories and I would look
1030
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.239
at that and go, you know what, No, And I
1031
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.280
would immediately reject that those memories that I was recalling
1032
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.159
were true. And I would do it again the next day,
1033
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.440
and again the next day, and sometimes I would spend
1034
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.800
an entire week or two weeks going over the same
1035
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.199
area of memories again and again and again with what
1036
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:19.519
I would say, a scrutinous self doubt, so that by
1037
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.360
the time I got to the end of that process
1038
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:28.239
of gathering one set of memories, and they were consistent
1039
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.960
every time, and they didn't change every time, and they
1040
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.559
were as vivid and real and visceral as any other
1041
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:36.719
memory that I've ever had about anything. My only conclusion
1042
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:38.880
was that they had to be legit and had to
1043
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.719
be real. Now, I will say, as far as talking
1044
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:45.320
about screen memories, there occasionally would in this process a
1045
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.320
false or of screen memory come up. But in a
1046
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:52.000
deep state, screen memories don't last. They don't really hold
1047
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:56.400
up to any scrutiny. They actually appear two dimensional, so
1048
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:01.199
they fall apart. They fall down. And when you push
1049
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:04.519
on a screen memory, you get to the real memory
1050
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.679
behind it. So someone who doesn't push to a screen
1051
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.000
memory is not going to necessarily get to the real memory.
1052
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.039
But I pushed and I pushed, and I pushed and
1053
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:16.280
I pushed on every memory until I was absolutely certain
1054
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:20.039
that it was something legitimate that was happening or had
1055
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:21.079
happened to my experience.
1056
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:25.599
Very interesting. And what age did you say you first
1057
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.599
actually went to Mars.
1058
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:29.599
That was when I was seventeen.
1059
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.519
Now did they approach you and say, hey, you're going
1060
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.719
to be going to Mars now or did it just happen?
1061
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:37.679
How did that happen.
1062
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.599
Well, I certainly had been trained for years enough to
1063
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.280
know that at some point I was going to get deployed,
1064
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:50.559
and by that age, training sessions will typically occur when
1065
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:55.320
a couple of technicians would come through essentially a wormhole
1066
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.559
in the wall of my bedroom. A light, a sort
1067
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.119
of a yellowish greenish bluish light would kind of appear
1068
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.039
in the room, and I would sit up and these
1069
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:08.800
two technicians would come out of the wormhole, the localized
1070
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.320
wormhole a door in the wall, if you will, and
1071
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:15.159
would you know, escort me through to a situation where
1072
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.920
I would go through a training exercise. So when I
1073
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:23.519
was deployed, the same sort of exercise of having this
1074
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:26.480
wormhole open up in the wall having two technicians step
1075
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.039
out was completely normal for me at that point, and
1076
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.280
I just walked through like every other experience. But by
1077
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:33.159
the time I got to lo An Operations Command and
1078
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:36.840
was having a contract put out in front of me
1079
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:39.440
and having a junior officer explained to me that I
1080
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.760
had to sign initial sign Initial nine to sign an
1081
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.800
initial this contract and that then I was actually going
1082
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.920
for a deployment. Then I knew I was being deployed,
1083
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:52.599
but up until that point, I just presumed, like every
1084
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:54.960
other situation that I had been through, like that it
1085
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.199
was just another training exercise. But yeah, it wasn't. It
1086
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.360
was a oh, we're actually deploying you somewhere now, And
1087
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.719
I didn't No one told me. Uh The junior officer
1088
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.119
who we filled out the contract with, he didn't tell
1089
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:08.039
me I was going to Mars. He just said, well.
1090
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:09.440
When I asked him the question, I was like, well,
1091
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.119
where am I going? He's like, well, I actually can't
1092
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.920
tell you that it's classified. But you know, I can't
1093
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.039
tell you that. You have to sign and initial this
1094
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.920
entire contract and then you know, you'll be informed of
1095
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.320
where you're going to go. Which he still didn't inform
1096
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.480
me of where I was going to go. We had
1097
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:25.079
to wait until we got aboard the transport ship, and
1098
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:30.119
the transport ship actually took off to uh through through
1099
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:34.639
another larger wormhole from Earth orbit to Mars orbit, and
1100
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:37.280
then the captain of the ship said, welcome to Mars.
1101
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:40.119
That was actually the first moment that I knew where
1102
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:40.679
I was going.
1103
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.440
Now, did they was this your physical body or did
1104
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.400
they just transfer your consciousness to a clone?
1105
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:53.639
Oh no, this was my physical body, absolutely.
1106
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.719
So when when did the consciousness transfer? When did that occur?
1107
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.320
That was on the return trip, So after I'd served
1108
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.280
my twenty year tour, came back to Luna Operations Command.
1109
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:08.000
I'm thirty seven years old at that point, but they
1110
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.320
got to send me back to nineteen eighty seven. If
1111
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.039
I had woken up a thirty seven year old man
1112
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:15.199
in my bed at seventeen, that would have been awkward
1113
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:19.079
for everyone. So at that point they decided to hatch
1114
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.720
from again from the process. As I understand it, they
1115
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.560
hatched out a seventeen year old clone, stuck me into that,
1116
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.279
and then returned me back to my bed.
1117
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.720
Okay, so through you went through a portal, and where
1118
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.439
did you end up on the other side of the portal?
1119
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:37.119
Initially on the Moon?
1120
01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.760
Well, actually it was to a facility I want to
1121
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.439
say was somewhere in the American Southwest, and we boarded
1122
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.640
a TR three B, which is the Black Triangle ships,
1123
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:49.800
and then from there we went to the Moon, which
1124
01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:52.239
is about a ninety minute trip. And again I'm guessing
1125
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:55.600
the location because as we took off and left Earth,
1126
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.079
I was actually sitting next to a window and I
1127
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.159
could look out and see where we were leaving from
1128
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:06.119
so I couldn't tell, you know, from the geography exactly
1129
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:09.399
where we were. But as we started to get higher
1130
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:11.680
and higher, I was like, Oh, Okay, that looks like
1131
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.039
we just took off from New Mexico or something like that.
1132
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.000
And then again, about ninety minutes later it got to
1133
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.680
the facility at lun Operations man at the landing bay there.
1134
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.079
How long did you spend on the Moon?
1135
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.239
I was a couple of days. Maybe it was basically
1136
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:33.800
just long enough to get a physical psyche valve, signed
1137
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.960
the contract and then get put on a transport ship.
1138
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.039
So it was maybe a couple of days we did.
1139
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:43.319
We were underground the entire time, didn't have access to clocks,
1140
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.279
There was no windows with sun or you know, daytime
1141
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:48.720
or night time. So it's a guess that it was
1142
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:52.039
about two days, but I couldn't really be for sure
1143
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:52.520
about that.
1144
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:57.359
Now, who's behind all this? Who's running is it? Is
1145
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.720
it like a bunch of nation is it? Is it?
1146
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:08.159
Are we cooperating with ets to run this whole space program?
1147
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.119
Well, certainly in the early days we had a lot
1148
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:13.920
of help from extraterrestrial friends and neighbors who helped us
1149
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:18.760
establish the programs and build the ships and design them
1150
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.640
and build the programs that we were building. But currently,
1151
01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:27.239
and certainly by the time that I was deployed, the
1152
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:36.880
program was just a multi national contingent of countries who
1153
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.000
we would say traditional wild and it's the G seven.
1154
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:42.680
Now we would still consider these sort of G eight countries.
1155
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:48.119
The technologically advanced countries who were participating in the program
1156
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:52.239
at the time continue to participate in that program and
1157
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.520
are the backbone of the Earth Defense Force in the
1158
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.319
covert military space program, which is not just a United
1159
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:03.119
States program, not just the US and Great Britain or
1160
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:06.239
the US and Great Britain in Germany, it's you know, again,
1161
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:10.359
all of those G eight countries, plus we have started
1162
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.840
to let some of the other countries that we might
1163
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:15.880
consider sort of up to the G twenty now into
1164
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:19.439
the program. So most of those other countries don't necessarily
1165
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.239
build a lot of their own ships, but they are
1166
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:26.239
having officers, pilots, and personnel who are participating in the program,
1167
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.880
so they can benefit technologically from being in the program.
1168
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:35.600
Overall, did you encounter a lot of German influence?
1169
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:40.319
Not a lot where I was at. So the Nachtwaffen,
1170
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:43.159
which is the State, which is German for night Fleet,
1171
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.520
which is the dark Fleet, which is run by the
1172
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.960
news Schwabenlanders, who for anyone who doesn't know that, the
1173
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.399
New Schwabenlanders were the quote unquote German Nazis who left
1174
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:57.439
Germany went down to Antarctica to a little piece of
1175
01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.800
land that they had carved out and established in the
1176
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:06.319
called New Schwabenland. And legally, on paper they stopped being
1177
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:08.960
the Germans, they stopped being the Nazis, and they became
1178
01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.960
the New Schwabenlanders. So when the United Nations allowed them
1179
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.119
a secret chair that they didn't release to the public,
1180
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.119
they did not call them the Germans or the Nazis.
1181
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:21.600
They were called the New schabin Landers. And so they
1182
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:26.279
tend to call themselves the news Schwabenlanders, and that's what
1183
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.199
we tend to call them, so because they tend to
1184
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:33.720
operate their own fleet. No, we were not a part
1185
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:35.560
of that. I wasn't part of that fleet. I was
1186
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:38.840
with the either contracted in the MDF or in the
1187
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:44.119
Radiant Guardian fleet, which is let's just say pretty thin
1188
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:46.720
on German dialects.
1189
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:53.479
What et races were we friendly with on Mars?
1190
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:58.479
Well, That's a difficult question to answer. We were certainly
1191
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:04.079
there's four or five, maybe six different indigenous species on Mars.
1192
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:06.359
I'm not familiar enough with all of them to talk
1193
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:09.720
about all of them. I was in regular contact through
1194
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:15.159
combat operations with the indigenous insectoid sppecies and the indigenous
1195
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.039
reptoid species, so I know quite a bit about them,
1196
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:20.760
but I don't know too much about the other species
1197
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:23.880
that are present there because we simply didn't encounter them.
1198
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:27.399
I'm not sure what other friendly species we may have
1199
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.800
been working with because we never I never saw them
1200
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.800
or had any contact with them. And later on, when
1201
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:36.720
I was a pilot and had more contact with other
1202
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.039
extraterrestrial species, that was just sort of a whole other
1203
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:44.119
experience later on after my tour in the MDF. So
1204
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.319
as far as that question, I honestly don't know what
1205
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:52.520
species we were cooperating with on Mars. That's what I
1206
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.600
don't really have the answer to, just because I wasn't
1207
01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.239
exposed to any of the etis that we would have
1208
01:13:57.279 --> 01:13:58.199
been cooperating with.
1209
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:01.560
Okay, and yeah, I'd like to get to some specific
1210
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:04.880
races that I have in mind a little later, But
1211
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:12.199
can you describe the landscape, the atmosphere, what it felt like,
1212
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.399
what the air was like on Mars.
1213
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:21.039
Well, the gravity is quite a bit lower, so you
1214
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:23.640
kind of bounce around a lot when you're trying to walk.
1215
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:26.359
And we were in a powered body armor, which is
1216
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:32.000
like a hydraulic exosuit essentially, so it learning how to
1217
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.560
walk in that thing, and walking in the lower gravity
1218
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:39.960
is this whole other experience. The air is fairly thin.
1219
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.600
We were up north where the air is even thinner
1220
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.680
and colder, so you could pop up your helmet, but
1221
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:49.920
you couldn't really breathe for long period of time or
1222
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.760
get into a kerfuffle or a fight and be able
1223
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:56.239
to breathe heavily in the native atmosphere. But it was
1224
01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.039
oxygen oriented and you certainly could breathe in it. It
1225
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:05.399
had a smell typically of rust, because the iron oxide
1226
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:08.119
is everywhere, is just you know, covers the ground all
1227
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.640
over the place, and so you have this rusty smell
1228
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:14.159
in the air. But again that sense of the change
1229
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:19.960
in gravity. Being literally physically lighter, weighing less weight almost
1230
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:23.000
you know, less than half your normal body weight, while
1231
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:28.479
still having your same body mass and your same muskcular power,
1232
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:33.840
is a really strange sensation anyone who's ever had a
1233
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.199
I mean, I've had dreams like this, But maybe that's
1234
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.239
why anyone who's ever had dreams of, you know, being
1235
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:43.239
able to take really big steps and feeling like you're lighter,
1236
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.640
like maybe you could get lift off, but not quite.
1237
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:50.199
It's kind of like that. You really just feel it
1238
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:53.359
feels otherworldly. I mean, for lack of a better word,
1239
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:57.199
you just because you're just not at all feeling the
1240
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:01.119
same pull of gravity on your legs, your your stomach,
1241
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:06.640
your your blood vessels, and so everything just feels a little,
1242
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:10.840
a little weird, a little ephemeral, because there's this sense
1243
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.239
of lightness because of the lower gravity.
1244
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:18.439
Very interesting, now, were you were your bases underground or
1245
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:19.239
above ground?
1246
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:28.439
Absolutely underground. We're a station to the at least on
1247
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.359
our maps, the most northerly outpost that we had, and
1248
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:34.119
it was inside a mountain. There were pretty large doors
1249
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:37.039
that went into the motor pool, which was the sort
1250
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:39.600
of the initial landing bay that you know, we would
1251
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.600
go entered through the base into and everything else was
1252
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:43.800
deep into this mountain.
1253
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.199
And where exactly you said you were on the northern
1254
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:49.399
part of moors.
1255
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:53.279
Yeah, I. You know, I the maps that we looked at,
1256
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.960
I couldn't tell you exactly where it was. Like you know,
1257
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.039
if I pulled up a map of Mars, I couldn't
1258
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.079
tell you exactly where it was. I could tell you
1259
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:05.399
about the longitude and say it was kind of about here.
1260
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.840
So usually what I tell people is it's about It
1261
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:13.039
would be the equivalent of like being in Alaska. So
1262
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:15.920
we were pretty far north, but obviously not all the
1263
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.640
way to the equator, to the pole, but clearly not
1264
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:23.079
anywhere near the equator. Yet we weren't as far as
1265
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.439
the pole, nowhere near the equator. We were way farther north.
1266
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:30.319
It was cold. It would snow from time to time,
1267
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.880
which is another strange experience because of the gravity difference,
1268
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.319
it would the snow would fall very very very slowly,
1269
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:40.960
almost like in slow motion. It was a It was
1270
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.760
an eerie and yet very cool thing to observe, to
1271
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:45.000
watch the snowfall there.
1272
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:51.439
Can you describe your your weapons, your body armor, your gear.
1273
01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.560
What kind of weaponry and gear were you using?
1274
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.279
So the gear was basically a powered armor body of
1275
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:04.079
full pot sorry full body powered armor suit which was
1276
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:07.600
called the Archer series, which depending on what year was
1277
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:11.199
that we were there would depend on which number followed that.
1278
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:14.319
The first body armor that I stepped into was something
1279
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:19.239
called the Archer one one nine and the last one
1280
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:23.600
I believe was the Archer two four nine. It was
1281
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.520
a again a hydraulically powered suit, so that you had
1282
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.359
could jump farther, lift things stronger. I mean, we've already
1283
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.319
got half gravity, so you've already got super strength and
1284
01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:37.840
super jumping power without powered body armor on. Add hydraulically
1285
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:41.279
powered body armor and you can throw things farther and
1286
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:45.920
jump even farther. And the major weapon that we used
1287
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.359
was a gouse rifle or a railgun, so it was
1288
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:53.680
a magnetically propelled projectile out of a rifle that had
1289
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:57.800
a connection to a power source in the suit.
1290
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:03.000
For the most part, now we were Are we the
1291
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:07.319
invaders there? Are we indigenous?
1292
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.199
Yeah? We kind of are. Interestingly enough, the indigenous species
1293
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:18.880
don't necessarily consider us invaders. They consider us neighbors, uh,
1294
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:21.800
but neighbors that you have disagreements with, which is a
1295
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.359
little bit different than the attitude they would have from
1296
01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:28.760
an invading force, which I go into some detail into
1297
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:33.000
my book. There was a draconian invasion about nine years
1298
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:37.119
into my tour, and that just became a very different
1299
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:38.840
event as far as how we dealt with it, how
1300
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.880
the indigenous dealt with it. But essentially we are still
1301
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:45.800
more of an invader there than we are not. I mean,
1302
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:47.960
we showed up and said, yeah, we're just going to
1303
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.119
put in some colonies, we're going to build some bases,
1304
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:53.600
and we're gonna kick the crap out of anybody that's
1305
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:56.880
too close to our territory, which from what I again,
1306
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:00.600
people read my book when it's when out, which is
1307
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:04.319
going to be soon, we'll get the larger narrative there.
1308
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:07.560
But we didn't exactly have to be in conflict with
1309
01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:09.880
the indigenous species. It was pretty much just to keep
1310
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:16.920
testing military hardware very interesting, and so they weren't overtly hostile.
1311
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:19.640
They were defensive because you know, we've got guys on
1312
01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:23.479
the ground with armor and guns and you know, attacking
1313
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.640
anybody who came close to us. So that sort of
1314
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:30.800
starts the whole conflict, but they weren't outrightly hostile. Let's
1315
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.319
just say, now, what.
1316
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:35.680
Were these species? What were the indigenous species that you
1317
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:36.960
were encountering.
1318
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:42.159
An indigenous insectoid species and an indigenous reptoid species the
1319
01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:47.479
indigenous insectoids were. So there's a king of the hive,
1320
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:50.239
which is male, not female, so it's not a queen,
1321
01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:53.399
which is like the size of an elephant. And then
1322
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:57.319
the drones themselves are about like a giant ant that's
1323
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:00.640
about five and a half feet tall. But they typically
1324
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:04.119
didn't do a lot of the fighting themselves. They engineered
1325
01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:08.560
these other bugs. So there's these swarms of beetles anywhere
1326
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:11.720
from the size of a hedgehog to a medium sized
1327
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.479
dog that they would use essentially as their fighting forces,
1328
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:17.920
as well as a couple of bigger ones, like a
1329
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:24.600
batter eighteen or twenty foot long centipede with mandibles three
1330
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:25.279
feet wide.
1331
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:28.840
And you said, these beings look.
1332
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:32.039
Pretty terrifying fighting, yeah, fighting insects like that.
1333
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:35.520
You said, these being looks like like ants. Were they
1334
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:37.079
standing on Yeah?
1335
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:40.560
Yeah, they stand on two legs. They have six appendages,
1336
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.359
and they have two in the middle, two on the
1337
01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:44.640
bottom that they stand on and two on the top
1338
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:49.039
that typically operate as their main arms or hands, and
1339
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:51.960
the two in the middle could be either or so
1340
01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:55.640
if they needed extra support while walking, they could use
1341
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.479
the third or fourth limb to steady themselves, or they
1342
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:04.399
could use forearms to carry something or operate or build something.
1343
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:06.439
So the two in the middle could sort of be
1344
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.079
top or bottom depending on their need.
1345
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:12.520
Now, was this an intelligent species? Did they communicate?
1346
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:17.560
Very highly intelligent? Highly intelligent psionic species, meaning they have
1347
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:21.319
the ability to communicate telepathically directly if they choose to.
1348
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:29.760
Very very intelligent, super intelligent, just a little different than
1349
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:34.239
the way our mammalion intelligence works, but incredibly intelligent beings
1350
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:37.399
for sure. And the indigenous reptoids were also highly intelligent.
1351
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:39.359
We were led to believe they were sort of a
1352
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:43.640
savage reptile, but they were also again quite intelligent.
1353
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:46.760
And can you describe the reptoid species.
1354
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.720
Sure, the reptoid species tended to be anywhere from about
1355
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:52.600
five and a half feet tall to almost seven and
1356
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:57.119
a half feet tall, and you know, from the sort
1357
01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.479
of stocky, beefy side to the very large beef side.
1358
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:04.800
And they had a skin tones that were I would say,
1359
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.640
sort of these sandy colors, like a sandy brown, a
1360
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:14.000
sandy red, sandy tan color. And then they had markings
1361
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.760
on the on their heads, on their backs, and on
1362
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:22.000
their arms that were If any people are familiar with
1363
01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:26.039
terrestrial lizards or terrestrial reptiles. If I say a rock lizard,
1364
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:28.439
that's probably the best kind of description I can give.
1365
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:36.039
So the color patterns tended to be in spots of black, yellow, red, brown, tan,
1366
01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.239
and sort of those sort of primary colors.
1367
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:45.439
Did they have sort of elongated snouts or more of
1368
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.159
a short.
1369
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:51.079
Snout actually a very short snout. The draconians have a
1370
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:54.279
very long snout with more like a crocodile or an alligator.
1371
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:59.079
The indigenous reptoids on Mars have a short snout very
1372
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:01.720
close to their face, sticks out a couple of inches,
1373
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:03.119
but not much farther than that.
1374
01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:07.680
And the draconians were they were they much larger than
1375
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:09.399
the indigenous reptoids.
1376
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:13.960
Yes, yes, they well, not necessarily much larger. The big
1377
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.680
seven and a half footers are pretty big, but I
1378
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:19.800
would say the typical draconian was more like between six
1379
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:21.800
and eight feet.
1380
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.880
And those are the more of elongated snouts. And did
1381
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:25.760
they have wings?
1382
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.560
Some of them do, some of them don't. So it
1383
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.479
really depends on their I think some of their social
1384
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:36.640
class or social standing that has to do with how
1385
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:41.920
their genetic origins or their purpose on the battlefield.
1386
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.800
And you said the Draco kind of invaded a little
1387
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:47.439
later in your stay.
1388
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.960
Correct about nine years eight and a half, nine years
1389
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.159
into my tour, and from what I hear.
1390
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.840
From a lot of whistleblowers, did Draco tried to get
1391
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.399
their hands in a lot of things and possibly have
1392
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:02.319
a lot of control on what's happening on earth right now.
1393
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:07.399
Well, they used to have control on what was going
1394
01:25:07.439 --> 01:25:10.039
on here on earth, but that really started to be
1395
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:14.079
arrested from them about twenty years ago, and I would
1396
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:18.239
say between the last ten and twenty years most of
1397
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:22.199
that control was taken away, and within the last five
1398
01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:25.960
years they really have no real social political control at
1399
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:27.880
this time. I'm not saying that there are still a
1400
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:32.079
few lollygaggers around that we're still dealing with, but for
1401
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:35.680
the most part, they are a more of a nuisance
1402
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:37.239
than they are anything else at this point.
1403
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:40.800
So they wouldn't have anything to do with say the
1404
01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.600
Cabal that's you know, you know that everybody would see
1405
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:49.319
as the Illuminati or what you would you.
1406
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:53.520
Know, again, they used to be, but they wouldn't. I
1407
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.520
wouldn't say that they represent that force anymore now. What
1408
01:25:56.640 --> 01:25:59.520
happens though, in these power vacuums just because you know,
1409
01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:03.920
we limited the Draconian presence or threat, or for the
1410
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:06.359
most part, the majority of it doesn't mean that some
1411
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.720
other species took the opportunity to make a deal with
1412
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:15.079
the cabal and start working with them. So there's you know,
1413
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:18.640
we've always got somebody given us trouble that we have
1414
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:23.119
to deal with, and there there's always somebody willing to
1415
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:27.720
make a deal the Enoches for power, technology or some
1416
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:31.239
tactical advantage that they think is going to suit their needs.
1417
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.720
So that continues to be an issue. But again it's
1418
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:37.439
not with the Draconians. Now. I have been told by
1419
01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:41.600
some people who served in the Knackfoffen that the White
1420
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.760
DraCos do serve with some of their Schabenlanders and with
1421
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:50.000
the Knackfoffen. But the White DraCos are a faction of Draconians,
1422
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.680
so they are actually in a state of civil war
1423
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:55.800
like a number of species, the Zeta reticulans, for example,
1424
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.439
when we talk about them, there isn't just like one
1425
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:02.720
group of Zetas. There's five different groups and they divide
1426
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.239
themselves in sort of two sides that are in a
1427
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.720
state of civil war with each other. From what I understand,
1428
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.920
the white Draco's are also in a state of civil
1429
01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:15.199
war with their darker green cousins.
1430
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:15.880
Very interesting.
1431
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.479
I don't know enough about that to explain that much more.
1432
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:20.680
That's just what people who know a bit more about
1433
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:22.920
that have told me. I wish I knew more about that,
1434
01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:23.600
but I just don't.
1435
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:28.159
So getting back to your experience on Mars, now, I
1436
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.720
assume you've been through quite a few battles, is that right?
1437
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:35.840
Yeah, several thousand combat events.
1438
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:41.079
What was your first battle experience like? Were you terrified.
1439
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:47.439
At first? Yeah, but they have this drug cocktail that
1440
01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:52.800
is shot into your leg and a hypodermic pack that
1441
01:27:53.239 --> 01:28:00.439
essentially takes away your fear, elevates your aggression, and not
1442
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:04.760
having been acclimated to the drug cocktail, my first experience
1443
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:10.600
was essentially to you know, leap down the hill and
1444
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.720
scream and charge into battle and go rather ballistic as
1445
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:20.600
it were, because it's a powerful drug cocktail. It again
1446
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:25.119
elevates your aggression levels and reduces your fear experience, so
1447
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.800
you stop feeling afraid and you just feel like you
1448
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.279
just want to fight and attack and kill anything that's
1449
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:30.800
in front of you.
1450
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:37.479
What was your first battle with Was it with the reptoids.
1451
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:44.520
It was. It was with the indigenous reptoids. Correct, And were.
1452
01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:49.000
You ever severely injured or you know, have any trauma.
1453
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:53.640
Oh, I was severely injured a lot. So I've had
1454
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.439
you know, fingers, hands, arms, legs ripped off, blown off,
1455
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:02.319
bitten off, burned off, stabbed, you know, other parts of
1456
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:10.159
my body holes poked in them and ripped apart. Luckily,
1457
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.520
fortunate or unfortunately, depending on how you want to look
1458
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.359
at it. We had a very advanced medical technology which
1459
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:21.920
is essentially a holographic cellular regenerating bed that projects a
1460
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.720
high resolution hologram of your genetic profile onto your body,
1461
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:29.000
which tells the cells in your body to regrow to
1462
01:29:29.039 --> 01:29:32.960
their optimal state and or fools the nuclei of your
1463
01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:36.279
cells to grow back down to your fingertips, your toes
1464
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:39.439
if you've had limbs missing. So it has the ability
1465
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:42.520
to completely restore your physical body to one hundred percent.
1466
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:46.680
So we get injured from anything from a little injury
1467
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:51.399
or finger ripped off to you know, my right arm
1468
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:54.840
and my left arm and my left leg ripped off,
1469
01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:57.680
and my guts torn open and half my face torn
1470
01:29:57.720 --> 01:29:59.720
off and then put back together in a matter of hours.
1471
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:01.319
A day, depending on the severity of the injury.
1472
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:07.279
Now you weren't traumatized by any of that, horribly traumatized, horribly,
1473
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:08.399
horribly traumatized.
1474
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:10.560
I have said more than once that it was a
1475
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:12.880
twenty year tour duty and it was a twenty year
1476
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:18.560
healing process. I'm a lot better now, But if you
1477
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:22.640
knew me twenty years ago, I was a mess. I mean,
1478
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:26.439
my emotional I was a real piece of work, to
1479
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.960
be honest with you. So experienced a lot of depression, anxiety,
1480
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:36.119
post traumatic stress disorder symptoms, insomnia over the years, had
1481
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:40.720
sleep disorders for decades. I mean I spent decades not
1482
01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:43.640
being able to get a good night's sleep for years
1483
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.880
and years and years. But I seriously undertook the process
1484
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:49.399
of getting to my memories, and in that processes I
1485
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:54.239
would remember things, would re experience that trauma, and essentially
1486
01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:58.800
would have to do pretty deep healing work on those
1487
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:00.880
memories as I went through and one at a time,
1488
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:03.079
to get through that trauma just so I could get
1489
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:04.199
to the next set of memories.
1490
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:09.159
Now, do they have the technology to basically bring you
1491
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:12.000
back to life? And did you ever die?
1492
01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:17.680
Yes? So there's a sort of an interesting gray line
1493
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:23.760
there if there enough electrical activity in your brain to
1494
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:30.199
keep silver cord connected trieval or you are retrievable, and
1495
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:34.960
if you are that connection breaks, then you become unretrievable,
1496
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:37.800
and then you actually die for real. But you can
1497
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:41.600
be damaged so badly that your consciousness leaves your body
1498
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:43.880
and goes into a near death experience and you essentially
1499
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:46.319
experience what you know you would experience if you die,
1500
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:50.399
which is a bit of a life review and an
1501
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:54.760
experience of communicating with guides or other dimensional beings that
1502
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:59.520
talk about your existence in your material life and whether
1503
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:01.920
you're ready to move on or whether you're done or
1504
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:04.279
And I would always say, no, I'm not done. I
1505
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:06.119
have to go back, and then they would say, well, okay,
1506
01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:08.079
then you know, go back the way you came in,
1507
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:10.359
and then I would end up back in my body
1508
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:13.680
at some point. But yes, I have experienced a quote
1509
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:16.640
unquote near death or death experienced a dozens of times.
1510
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:20.239
So they just, I guess, have your consciousness on hand.
1511
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.640
No, it just as long as there's a connection still
1512
01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:27.600
to your body, it will come back into your body,
1513
01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:29.760
or they can pull it back into your body. But
1514
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.560
if again that silver cord that connects us to our
1515
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:36.119
body is actually severed. Then it's like a pit with
1516
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:38.319
a string being cut, and you're just gone.
1517
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:43.000
Wow, very interesting. And now I understand you were actually
1518
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:45.199
a pilot for some spacecraft.
1519
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:49.159
At the end of my tour in the MDF, after
1520
01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:52.960
seventeen years, I was given a promotion, got to go
1521
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:55.800
to flight school, and then yeah, spent the end of
1522
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:58.079
my twenty year tour as a pilot of an airwing
1523
01:32:58.479 --> 01:32:59.840
on the EDFSS NOD.
1524
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:03.399
Now can you describe that ship.
1525
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:08.880
The Nautilus? Yes, yeah, it was probably I want to say,
1526
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.439
at least a mile long or almost a mile long.
1527
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.960
It's broken up into three sections. The front section is
1528
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.159
the command section, the middle section is the flight deck section,
1529
01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:21.279
and the rear section is the engineering section. Now, there
1530
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:24.600
was a door at the engineering section that said specifically
1531
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:27.000
do not enter, and since I was not an engineer,
1532
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.560
I was not allowed in the engineering section. So I
1533
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.279
can't tell you exactly how big it is or what
1534
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:34.399
was in there because I was never allowed in. I
1535
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.279
was allowed in the command section by escort, by senior officer,
1536
01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:42.439
you know, maybe a dozen times. But I spent almost
1537
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:46.279
my entire time in the flight deck section. And when
1538
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:48.960
you're looking at the ship from the outside from space,
1539
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:52.880
it looks really big. But again, without you know something
1540
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.319
to compare it to, I'm giving my best guestimate of
1541
01:33:56.319 --> 01:33:59.079
what I understand is the length of these vehicles and
1542
01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:02.279
these ships to be about a mile or just short
1543
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:03.039
of a mile long.
1544
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.680
And what were the controls like? Was it as similar
1545
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:09.880
to anything we have here on earth? Was it completely different?
1546
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:13.479
I was never allowed on the flight deck, I mean
1547
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:16.760
on the actual the bridge, I'm sorry, the bridge of
1548
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:20.119
the command section, so I would not know how that
1549
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:25.399
ship has actually flown. The control mechanisms for the planes
1550
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:27.800
that we flew, which are not planes at all, but
1551
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:33.159
we call them planes, which are essentially a electrogravitic magnetic
1552
01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:36.760
gravitic propelled vehicle that's shaped kind of like a cone
1553
01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:40.439
that's pointing in the front and sort of roundish and
1554
01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:42.960
flat in the back with a kind of a flat bottom.
1555
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:47.760
Those controls were a sphere in front of us where
1556
01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:51.079
the stick would be with hand imprints in them, so
1557
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:53.119
your hands left the right hand would fit into the
1558
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.840
indentations in the sphere and you would spin, tilt, and
1559
01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.960
swirl the sphere. And then there were buttons at your
1560
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:05.800
fingertips that you use to control the mechanisms of the vehicle,
1561
01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:09.560
as well as a slider in the seat. The seat
1562
01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.680
also has a slider, so when you slipped your hips
1563
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:16.640
left and right, it would sort of quickly strafe the
1564
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:21.239
vehicle side to side. Did you ever encounter very nimble
1565
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:23.800
I just want to point out the very nimble vehicle
1566
01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.840
that control mechanism gives you a lot of agility.
1567
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:32.000
Very interesting. Now, did you encounter any biological vehicles or
1568
01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:34.720
maybe artificially intelligent.
1569
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.239
Not in my experience, not what we flew, But I
1570
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:43.880
did talk to enough people about other ships that were
1571
01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:48.119
in the fleet that had more complicated artificial intelligence and
1572
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:53.239
or in some cases organic computing systems or organic life systems.
1573
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:57.800
Those always sounded really intriguing to me. But my understanding
1574
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.920
was there we're still sort of an experimental stage with
1575
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:04.840
those types of vehicles, or they weren't considered reliable enough
1576
01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:09.079
to mass manufacture for the fleet, so we were getting
1577
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.439
what was considered sort of the best vehicle that they
1578
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.359
could mass manufacture for everyone. But I had heard of
1579
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:19.760
a few vehicles that did use some very interesting, more
1580
01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:24.720
integrative mechanisms with a artificial intelligence or organic in some
1581
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:28.079
cases not a computer intelligence, but an actual organic intelligence
1582
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.039
that operated the vehicle or that you connected with to
1583
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:30.880
operate the vehicle.
1584
01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.319
Now, have you ever been to any other planets besides
1585
01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:36.479
Mars and the Moon?
1586
01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:41.159
Uh? Not that I would be a liberty to discuss
1587
01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:41.760
at this time.
1588
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.039
Very interesting, Okay, So did you ever get any kind
1589
01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:49.520
of breaks or vacations anything like that.
1590
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:53.119
On the Nautilus? Every once in a while we would
1591
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:56.359
pull into a station or a base and get to
1592
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.960
have a liberty essentially a liberty weekend, and could any
1593
01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.840
from one to three days where we could go off
1594
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:06.479
quote unquote you know, on shore or off you know too,
1595
01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:10.199
which is again in space. But and sometimes that would
1596
01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:17.600
be the equivalent of, for lack of a better word, bars, restaurants,
1597
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:26.159
some sort of what I would say, you know, pg.
1598
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.600
Thirteen level entertainment. I heard some other senior officers talking
1599
01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:33.279
about some more r rated entertainment that we didn't get
1600
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:35.520
to go to. But we did occasionally get to go
1601
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:39.640
to a bar and drink, so you know, that was
1602
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:42.079
usually we felt like that was reward enough if we
1603
01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:43.920
could just go get hammered for a couple of days.
1604
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:45.399
Was this bar on Mars.
1605
01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:52.600
No, these were facilities at different stations or bases around
1606
01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:53.399
the Solar System.
1607
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:57.840
Very interesting, now, did they serve, you know, regular alcohol
1608
01:37:57.920 --> 01:37:59.760
or did you have any kind of strange space?
1609
01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:06.600
I was told that there were facilities that were mixed,
1610
01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:10.359
meaning that they had both human personnel, terrestrial personnel and
1611
01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:13.640
extraterrestrial personnel. But we weren't allowed in those places, so
1612
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:15.800
we had to go to sort of the human only bars.
1613
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.239
So it was all stuff that you know, you're used
1614
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:23.159
to drinking here, so beer, wine and you know, whiskey, tequila, gin, vodka,
1615
01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:26.680
you know, the regular poisons.
1616
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:31.880
How many extraterrestrial species have you personally encountered?
1617
01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:38.439
Well, since as part of my duties when I was
1618
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:43.319
aboard the Nautilus was to occasionally accompany ambassadoril Core to
1619
01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:46.600
these away missions to the Intergalactic space Station that orbits
1620
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.079
around Jupiter, which is quite large. It's about it again,
1621
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:53.119
it's probably about a mile in diameter. The Florida ceiling,
1622
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:56.880
it's about eighty feet with windows that go three hundred
1623
01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:58.960
and six degrees all the way around, and it's a
1624
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:05.279
massive of meeting room for both ourselves and other species
1625
01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:08.760
having treaty and contract negotiations for the most part, and
1626
01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:13.520
that room was almost always pretty full. So on any
1627
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:17.319
given visit to that station, we would encounter the species
1628
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:20.039
that we were there to talk to directly, and then
1629
01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:24.119
within you know, ten thirty feet could be another dozen
1630
01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:28.039
or two dozen species or more that were close enough
1631
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:30.880
five for me to look at, stare at, look at,
1632
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:34.000
you know, observe kind of staring around the room, but
1633
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:36.840
not necessarily interact with to know much more about them
1634
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.600
other than what they looked like. So it was I've
1635
01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:45.000
encountered dozens and dozens of species on those missions. I
1636
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:46.880
don't even know where I would begin to calculate the
1637
01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:51.119
actual number, given the size of that room easily. In fact,
1638
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:53.680
I'd say well over one hundred or two hundred species
1639
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:56.199
that I have seen personally witnessed on that station.
1640
01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:02.359
Now there's a lot of I guess, misinformation and confusion
1641
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:07.159
about what the Anunaki actually are. Have you ever encountered
1642
01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:09.479
anything that you would call Anunaki?
1643
01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:14.960
That's a good question. Having done a bit of my
1644
01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:19.239
historical research on that, there seems to be I mean,
1645
01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:22.560
I'm speculating just from the historical research that I've done
1646
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:24.319
and the people that I've talked to about it that
1647
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:28.359
when we talk about the ets that we were dealing
1648
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:31.640
with in Sumeria, it was not just one species. So
1649
01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.479
the onunaki might be one species, but we were probably
1650
01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:38.319
actually dealing with, you know, half a dozen or maybe
1651
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:41.920
up to a dozen different species at that time. But
1652
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:44.119
they were just all sort of referred to as quote
1653
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:47.880
unquote the gods, and depending on where they were and
1654
01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:51.680
what their description was would sort of indicate sort of
1655
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:55.119
what maybe what those species were. So, for instance, the
1656
01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:58.840
meso Americans have quot thecadal, who is obviously a reptile.
1657
01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.319
But you all so have the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptians
1658
01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:07.479
which had these large, gigantic deities that they made these
1659
01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:12.479
giant statutory of which and these temples with these doors
1660
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:15.000
that are you know, sixty seventy feet high so that
1661
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:18.279
they could walk through them. My understanding is that those
1662
01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:25.680
the sitting pities in Egypt that are you know, again
1663
01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:29.399
you know, more than feet tall. They'll be make them
1664
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:31.560
bigger than life, but they were actually that tall.
1665
01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:37.239
Now for all of this, do you have any type
1666
01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:41.399
of paperwork or files or anything that you can show
1667
01:41:42.079 --> 01:41:43.840
that that's physical proof of this.
1668
01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:48.680
I have an implant, a dog tag implant behind my
1669
01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:51.720
left ear that I have shown to a number of people,
1670
01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:54.520
and I have talked to a couple of surgeons about
1671
01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:57.359
getting removed and it should have some we should be
1672
01:41:57.399 --> 01:41:59.199
able to look at it under an electron microscope and
1673
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.399
it should have some right on it. But that's that's
1674
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:07.159
a pricey cost at this point to essentially rent out
1675
01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:08.680
the facility. I mean, I've talked to a couple of
1676
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:11.399
surgeons and we can't just do it at their you know,
1677
01:42:11.399 --> 01:42:14.560
in their living room. So uh, the fee for what
1678
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:18.920
it would cost to rent out a day surgery of
1679
01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:24.520
facility is thousands of dollars. So when we've come up
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01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:26.439
with the money, I have every intention of getting it
1681
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:28.960
taken out so that I can get it looked at
1682
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:32.960
under an electron microscope. I am in the process of
1683
01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:37.079
filing paperwork to get my files to get that paperwork,
1684
01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:40.720
and I'm presumed, as Brigadier has instructed me, that once
1685
01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:43.000
we get this dog tag implant out, that I can
1686
01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:45.880
use that to some of the personnel that I'm attempting
1687
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:49.239
to get that paperwork from as proof that you know,
1688
01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.680
I am who I am and was who I was
1689
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:53.640
and work for who I work for, I say I do.
1690
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.039
But at this point the answer to that, the short
1691
01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:58.800
answer is no, I just have this dog tag implant
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01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:00.600
behind my ear life one behind me. You can only
1693
01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:02.640
see the one behind the left, and I tend to
1694
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:04.640
get that one taken out. But no, I don't have
1695
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:06.640
any paperwork at this time, but we are in the
1696
01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:08.560
process of getting that paperwork.
1697
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.319
Now for the last few minutes, I'd like to get
1698
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:16.359
your take on what you think about Trump Space Force.
1699
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:19.319
Is this just kind of a way to announce that
1700
01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:22.640
we've always had a secret space program or what do
1701
01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:23.760
you think is going on there?
1702
01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.600
Well, it's certainly instead of just coming out and telling
1703
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:32.359
the truth that we've had a covert military space program
1704
01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:36.479
for decades, it allows a changing in control of a
1705
01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:40.840
different narrative. So it gives us the opportunity to say,
1706
01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:44.119
six months, twelve months, eighteen months down the road, Oh,
1707
01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:47.319
look at this new cool plant jet fighter that we
1708
01:43:47.479 --> 01:43:50.479
have that fly happens to also fly out in space.
1709
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:53.640
We just developed that a few years ago, when maybe
1710
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:56.840
we've had that for you know, fifty years. So it
1711
01:43:56.880 --> 01:44:01.079
does give us room to start talking about room to
1712
01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:05.239
start talking about technology. It gives us the ready opportunity
1713
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:09.640
if there's a hoax invasion to have a response to
1714
01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:12.279
that hoax invasion that we don't just have to pull
1715
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:14.399
out from underneath a rock. We can say, oh no, no,
1716
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:16.960
we've had the Space Force now, we've been working on
1717
01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.000
that for a few months. We've got some tools, we've
1718
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:25.960
got some toys. We're not completely defenseless. So it enables
1719
01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:29.680
us to control the narrative in a different way and
1720
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:32.840
not have to admit everything that we know is true
1721
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:35.600
for the past seven decades is true. But it all
1722
01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:37.560
remains to be seen how that's going to be used,
1723
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:41.000
because it can be used any way. It could be
1724
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:45.800
used any number of ways, depending on who decides how
1725
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:47.760
it's going to be used. So we're just gonna have
1726
01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:49.800
to wait and see how that turns out. Let's just
1727
01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:51.720
cross our fingers and hope it's all for the best.
1728
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:56.199
Do you see disclosure anytime in the near future.
1729
01:44:58.079 --> 01:45:03.079
You know, we've been seeing developments occur that would suggest
1730
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:06.399
that it's been on the cusp of happening for years
1731
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.000
and that there just continues to be these delays in
1732
01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:13.119
the decision making process by those who have have to
1733
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:17.239
actually implement it. I would suggest that we're closer than ever,
1734
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:23.039
but because as I'm being told, we do not have
1735
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:25.359
what I would say is a large majority. We have
1736
01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:29.720
about a fifty five percent majority who agrees on that
1737
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:32.760
we have to have well everyone basically, like almost one
1738
01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:35.560
hundred percent of everybody agrees at the table that we
1739
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:38.920
have to have disclosure. The disagreement is on how we're
1740
01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:40.760
going to do that. So we've got about a fifty
1741
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:45.039
five percent of everybody who's participating agreeing on that right now,
1742
01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:47.239
but we need about closer to seventy five or eighty
1743
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:53.039
percent before we can actually do something. So I'd say
1744
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:56.279
we're closer than ever, but there's no way for me
1745
01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:58.760
to say how close or how soon that's actually going
1746
01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:01.520
to happen. I'd love to see it happen, you know,
1747
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:04.359
any day now, but that's not up to me, so
1748
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.239
fingers crossed. But anytime soon, but that could be anytime
1749
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:11.479
next year or in the next few years.
1750
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:14.279
Very good. Now you said you have you're going to
1751
01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:16.199
have a book coming out soon, Is that right?
1752
01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:25.960
I dom just basically at the final final stages of
1753
01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:30.159
having my proofreaders proofread the final version that I've done,
1754
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:34.640
and when we've made the last final spelling, grammar, punctuation corrections,
1755
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:37.439
because trolls are vicious when it comes to that. Apparently,
1756
01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.079
as other authors have told me, if you don't have
1757
01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:42.960
all your punctuation and grammar mistakes taken care of, trolls
1758
01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:45.319
will just rip you apart. Then I will hand it
1759
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:48.640
off to my publisher and we will get out the
1760
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:52.840
ebook and paper copy. And she's encouraged me to go
1761
01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:55.720
ahead and do the reading for my own audiobook, so
1762
01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:58.039
people who want to listen to the audiobook will be
1763
01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:00.000
able to hear it in my own voice.
1764
01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.039
Very good. Now, there's tons of questions I didn't get to,
1765
01:47:04.319 --> 01:47:07.479
so definitely have to have you back on And I
1766
01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:10.119
want to thank you so much for joining us tonight, Randy.
1767
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:11.880
That was a fascinating story.
1768
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:14.399
My pleasure. Thank you very much for having me. I
1769
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:19.000
really appreciate the opportunity to share the story with everybody.
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01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:21.760
We think it's important that people understand the truth of
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01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:24.399
where we are. We think it's important that people raise
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01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:27.279
their consciousness to the level of understanding that we are
1773
01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:30.039
not alone in the universe. And not only are we
1774
01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:32.079
not alone in the universe, we have a lot of
1775
01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:34.640
friends and neighbors that we are talking to and trading
1776
01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:39.159
bits and pieces with on a regular daily basis, so
1777
01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:42.239
they love our stuff. We make good stuff, apparently. So
1778
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.359
we've gone from a species that needs a bunch of
1779
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:49.199
help from all these extra trustrials to now we make
1780
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:51.880
better stuff than some of the stuff that they make.
1781
01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:57.239
So we're a major trader and manufacturer of a lot
1782
01:47:57.239 --> 01:47:59.880
of different high tech toys and tools, as well as
1783
01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:06.399
garments and clothing terrestrials. Fashion were apparently is very popular
1784
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:08.640
out there in the galaxy, and people buy a lot
1785
01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:11.920
of our clothes, and apparently they love our beer. We
1786
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.239
make great beer. So the two major exports that I'm
1787
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.600
aware of are beer and children's clothing, which I will
1788
01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:21.520
have to insert we don't think is for children. We
1789
01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:23.760
think it's for eats who are child size.
1790
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:29.840
Wow. Fascinating. Well ready, thanks again for joining us. We're
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01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:32.199
gonna definitely have to have you back, and you have.
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You can now stream the Forbidden documentary of Cult Louisiana
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free on two b TV. Louisiana is a magical place
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01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:04.720
and that was Cajun country.
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01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:08.840
You know, the food's good, the ladies is fine. There's
1796
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:11.119
a fun and roll like the old folks says, they.
1797
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:16.000
Love you so much. Incredible occult and forgotten history. There's
1798
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:19.039
a lot to the ancient history and era that we
1799
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:22.199
could be uncovering. Everybody is starting to like really quit
1800
01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:23.000
pieces together.
1801
01:49:24.239 --> 01:49:27.680
I've been writing books and doing research in the field
1802
01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:33.119
of Native American mounds and archaeology since the nineteen eighties.
1803
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:39.600
The LSU campus mounds were redated, which is absolutely bizarre.
1804
01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.680
This is all very, very strange, and it's just been
1805
01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:48.479
made more strange because all these old mounds are in Louisiana.
1806
01:49:48.880 --> 01:49:54.279
The Smithsonian dug into over two thousand mounds, finding seventeen
1807
01:49:55.399 --> 01:49:56.600
large skeletons.
1808
01:49:57.479 --> 01:50:02.520
They saw a very all humanoid being.
1809
01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:06.840
We just have a rich history of paranormal type stuff.
1810
01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:10.680
New Orleans is considered to be the most hated city
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01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:11.279
in the country.
1812
01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:15.279
The energy that's over the land and that energy it
1813
01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:16.680
seems to be stuck there.
1814
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:21.279
In twenty nineteen, I had an experience. It was all black,
1815
01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:26.840
had long black hair on it, a tall creature that
1816
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:31.720
had a dog's head. Legendary things fiction become reality.
1817
01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:34.359
I mean, it's fifteen. This dog man chased him through
1818
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.079
the woods. He only survived because of his dog saving
1819
01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:38.600
his life.
1820
01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:41.439
Y'all may kill me today, I said, but I promised
1821
01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:42.800
to this, I'm gonna kill at least two or three
1822
01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:43.720
young I said, you knew.
1823
01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:47.039
It for the plain when this thirty a six, it
1824
01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:49.000
was so close that he could see down the back
1825
01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:49.720
of its throat.
1826
01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:54.600
The vast swamps of Louisiana hold many secrets, from an
1827
01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:58.680
incredibly old, forgotten history to mythical creatures.
1828
01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:02.079
There are no answers. Yes, there's only more questions.
1829
01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:18.079
The nature of this experience seems to always be just
1830
01:51:18.199 --> 01:51:23.640
beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.
1831
01:51:24.279 --> 01:51:26.319
There's layers upon layers upon layers.
1832
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:28.760
Does add such an element of mystery to this place?
1833
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:29.880
Why are we here?
1834
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.439
We're getting closer to the truth now.
1835
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:38.279
There too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.
1836
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:43.560
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
1837
01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:47.960
Dreams involve interactions with real entities.
1838
01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:52.279
People are waking up, paralyzed their sensing or seeing something
1839
01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:56.920
very evil in the room. I have experienced sleep paralysis.
1840
01:51:57.800 --> 01:51:59.840
Shadow people start to appear.
1841
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.760
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
1842
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:11.079
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
1843
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:12.720
about these things.
1844
01:52:12.920 --> 01:52:17.359
A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
1845
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:20.399
our paranormal research would say, we'll have the ghost. Well
1846
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:22.800
what if it's all of those things and none of
1847
01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:26.880
those things, the entities, the intelligence that were just beyond
1848
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:27.800
our understanding.
1849
01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:30.399
There seems to be something a little extra that can
1850
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:34.000
take forms of anything. I can't believe what I've seen,
1851
01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:40.359
but it continues on a daily basis. We're definitely not alone. UFOs, UAPs,
1852
01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.079
portals opening up.
1853
01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.399
I really thought this supernatural stuff you kind of grow
1854
01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:48.560
up with that. Around here, you see a lot of
1855
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:53.359
strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.
1856
01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:58.520
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.
1857
01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:02.920
People they would saying would transform into bears, into wolves.
1858
01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:08.159
There's these vibe things out that occur, goals, UFOs, and
1859
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:10.640
all types of things coming from somewhere.
1860
01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.800
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seem to
1861
01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:19.239
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.
1862
01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:22.119
There is so much more that we just don't have
1863
01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:25.960
time for in this busy, loud and noisy life that
1864
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:29.720
we lead. All of this is planned, everything is synchronicity.
1865
01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:31.319
There's so much more out there.
1866
01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:33.760
We really are picking up such a small, small percentage
1867
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:35.199
of the electromagnetic spectrum.
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The world is an amazing place.
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It feels like we're God's in training.
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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes.
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I'm super excited for our guest. I'd like to welcome
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to the show former FBI investigator the Real X Man,
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John Desuza. John, how are you tonight? Oh?
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I'm great, Chris. Thank you so much for having me on.
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Really happy to be here with you today, with you
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and your audience and be talking on Forbidden Knowledge News.
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Awesome, great, and thanks for joining us. I appreciate you
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taking the time, and I thought we would start with,
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of course, a little bit about your background and then
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what brought you to you know, your current path and
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this phenomenon that you're currently researching.
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Sure you know for your audience, I'm John Desusa, called
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the X Man. I was a special agent of the
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FBI for over twenty five years. I was during that time,
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I maintained a top secret security clearance and I worked
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counter terrorism investigations, pretty high profile things. Also, I worked
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some paranormal cases for a lot of different reasons, and
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so during that time I collected what I like to
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call the real life X files, and I share those
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with people now in my books. My books like The
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Extra Dimensionals and The Para Investigators, and I try to
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make people understand things about these these events and these
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realities that are so important today because we see developments
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in them every single day. And what brought me to
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this path in the paranormal was even I had experiences
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even as a teenager, even before I before I ever
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joined the FBI, I had my experiences, I had my
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obser with in uphology, I had my observation experiences, I
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had my contact experiences also, and as soon as I
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got into the FBI, through a series of events that
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came together, I was also given paranormal assignments, paranormal involved
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assignments to do and to work on, and those are
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available for people. People can see them. People can see
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them actually in a show called The X Files from
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the nineties that came out way back then, and then
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the first and second season of that show, they used
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a lot of my experiences for the for the stories
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in the X Files, and that also was kind of
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an involved story. And I so I basically have been
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involved with the paranormal basically throughout my entire life, both
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of pology and other phenomena as well. And people want
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to see some of those experiences, they can just go
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to vault to FBI, sorry to vault dot FBI dot gov,
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and which is the repository of all declassified cases, and
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they can just go and hit on that big old
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tab that says unknown phenomena, unexplained phenomena. They hit on that,
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and then that opens up a whole bunch of all
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the supernatural cases that have been studied in the FBI
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over the last hundred years. And that's including animal mutilations,
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extrasensory perception, UFOs, JFK assassination, many others, and a lot
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of those. And those cases are in there and anybody
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can look at them, and they're free to download those documents.
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Anybody can go get them.
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Well awesome, thank you for that. And I know you've
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probably told this story hundreds of times, but I think
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it's important to kind of set the premise of what
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you've been through and with your experience and research, can
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you tell us a little bit about those personal experiences,
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maybe your first contact and any other contact you had.
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Sure, When I was about ten years old, I had
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my parents took me out to a party in New
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York City and I was with a bunch of little kids.
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of playing like one in the morning, way past our bedtime,
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and uh, they're out there. Something happened. All the kids
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ran away and I stayed there, and I was looking
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up at the sky and it was a star beautiful,
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starry night, and I was looking up at the sky
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and there was a dark ink cloud that was kind
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of in the middle of everything, and I looked at that,
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kept looking at that cloud, and out of the bottom
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came some spotlights that came out and they came towards me,
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and it was one of these like just looked like
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one of these old fashioned sort of flying saucers. A
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disk looked metallic, and it just came down towards me,
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hit me with those bluish greenish sort of spotlight that
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came down over me. And I just felt the contact
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with this this thing, this this ufo that appeared to me.
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an earthly entity. It was not an earthly thing, and
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it just kind of passed through me, this spotlight and
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two girls appeared on my left, teenage girls. They were
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just screaming looking up at the same thing I was,
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and one of them yelled at me, little boy, you
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better run home. The world might be ending. And they
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kind of woke me up, and myself and the flying saucer,
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it looked like we changed our mind at the same moment,
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because I took a step back out of that spotlight,
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and the thing reverse course and started going back up
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into that dark in cloud, and like a cartoon character
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just kind of that jumps in the hole and pulls
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the hole in after it. Thing just went up into
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that cloud and cloud was gone. I could see the
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stars again, and that was it, and so I ran
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back to where my parents were. I tried to tell
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them what happened. And later that week I had my
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first contact experience, which was a couple of beings came
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into my bedroom and the room changed so that I
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went stiff. The air everything changed, and I just went
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stiff like a bank, like a plank. And then I
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felt what I I assumed were like little children coming
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into my room, and they were lifting me up like
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a board, sort of like a board half filled with
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helium there and because wherever they put me, I stayed
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there in the air. And then I just saw the
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ceiling coming closer and closer and closer, and they were
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lifting me up towards that, and then my head, just
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my forehead just bunked against the ceiling. They couldn't put
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me through the ceiling, even though I could see they
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were passing through the ceiling easily, but for some reason
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I wouldn't come through, and that was very unexpected to them.
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the spot on the ceiling where they were looking. They
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were examining and see what was wrong. And I could
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see that they were not little children. They were like
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these grayish sort of creatures that were slender bodied, weird shaped,
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and I could see those black sort of wrap around
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eyes that they had that were not human. And they
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were lowering me and where and they were climbing on
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top of nothing. There was nothing there, but they were
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somehow climbing up and trying again, bonking my head again
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against the the ceiling. And as they did that, I
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was able to move my neck more and more, and
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my bedroom, and the door was wide open, and I
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could see two more of these beings on the ground
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holding their hands up over the bed like they were
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creating some kind of staces field keeping my parents asleep,
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even tho I could see they were struggling in pools
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of sweat. They were struggling to wake up, but they couldn't.
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over at me as I was straining my neck to
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look over at it, and it looked at me and
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made eye contact with those big black, wrap around eyes,
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and I just heard the words, he's awake. And when
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I heard those words, it's like a cord was cut,
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and I just fell right back down into my bed
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like a sack of potatoes. And they were gone. They
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were all gone. The room changed back again and it
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was just normal. And then I was sitting up thinking
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how was I going to wake up my parents? And
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I was feeling I would never sleep again, and then
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I just conked out, full asleep. We didn't wake up
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for many hours later, and there were the adults were
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shuffling around trying to create a story of what had
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happened so that so that they could have their story straight.
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So it seems that they couldn't, you know, lift you through.
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Do you think that there's a reason why you specifically
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they couldn't get as to some people, you know, they
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successfully abduct.
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Yeah, there has to be a reason. I don't know
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what that reason was. Some people tell me, now that
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I've been in the community for quite a while, some
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people tell me it's they made a mistake in reading
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my DNA or blood type had something to do maybe
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with blood type, or some kind of mistake was made
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when they did that examination of me with that spotlight
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and that's why they couldn't Or maybe I have an
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extra ingredient that they were not expecting could be bad
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as well. So whatever it was, it was just not
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it was too much for them to deal with.
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Yeah, it seems like, you know, some people just don't
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have contact. As for myself, I've really never seen a UFO.
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I seen some things that may have resembled the UFO,
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may have thought, but I wasn't sure. And it seems
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like some people have, you know, frequent contact with these beings.
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Would you say that's you know, pretty correct.
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Absolutely, there's people who are contacted and then there's intergenerational
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content contexts keep ongoing when they have kids to their
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kids and then grandchildren, and it's just something that they
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just get designated. But as for me, after that initial attempt,
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I never had contact again. I mean except professionally through
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my career when I had to have contact related to that.
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even be from the far reaches of outer space. They
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may be a lot closer than we think they may be,
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you know, right on the other side of the veil here.
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Would you say that's accurate.
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Yes, As a matter of fact, that's what I've always
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written about in my book The Extra Dimensionals. The whole
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point of that of that book is that I don't
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believe alien visitors are physical. I don't believe they are
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at all. I don't believe they're coming from other solar systems,
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other galaxies, and coming across time and space in tin
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cans like we're taught. We're always taught that they're physical,
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Ever since Roswell Crash, we're always taught that aliens have
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an imminency because they're all physical, just like us. Well,
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I don't believe that's true. I don't believe there are
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anything like us. I don't believe that they would lock
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themselves into tin cans to sail across space, because that's
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not what they're doing apparently from everything I've seen, both
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even in the FBI, everything I've seen has revealed to
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me that alien visitors, real ones, the real ones, are
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completely not physical, and that maybe they are for short
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sometimes they can make themselves physical for short periods of time,
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but fundamentally their nature is not to be physical, and
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the same with real UFOs. You, real UFOs are more
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like plasmas than metal ships. They are made out of
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a material that has shifting states, shifting states of matter and.
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Energy's pilots to these UFOs.
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I don't believe they are. I believe they are. They
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are empty. Real UFOs are empty. They are like and
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they are a form of life as well. They are alive.
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They are conscious. They may not be biologically we are,
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but they are conscious and they have their own life
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form life, and they accompany alien visitors kind of like
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kind of like cats would accompany as familiars, or familiars
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would accompany our sorcerers or witches and to do their bidding,
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to do little tasks for them. And the task that
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they do is that they collect information on us and
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that data they collect, that data to bring back to
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alien visitors. That's what all the investigations I have seen
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have really reinforced for me over and over again.
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are malevolent and some of them are benevolent?
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Yeah, exactly. You know, like Jesus said, you will know
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them by their deeds, by their fruit. What are they producing?
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And that's an eternal saying that applies basically across the board,
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and basically you just have to look at investigations. You
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just have to look at what are they doing, what
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are they creating. And some of them clearly are malevolent.
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Some of them clearly have these experiences, create these experiences
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where they produce nothing but darkness, terror, and horror for people.
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That's all they create. But some of them, you look
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at the experiences and they're doing positive things. They do
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positive things, they do good things, they create, they come
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and do things that can only be interpreted as being
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positive and mostly and that happens a lot in because
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I've talked to the subjects, I've talked to the people
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who have had diseases healed by multi dimensional alien visitors
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that they've come in contact with who have had their
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lives improved, who have even have special abilities that have
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been increased in them through their contact with alien visitors.
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So there's so there's no way around the fact that
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there are alien visitors that are malevolent, and there are
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some that are benevolent. There are for our that look
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upon us as brothers, as people that they wish beings
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that they wish to support, to uplift and to help.
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And that's that's what I get from the witnesses that
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I have spoken to.
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Do you ever get the sense that some of them
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are somewhat maybe harvesting energy in a way from humans.
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Absolutely, that's one of the primary functions with malevolent alien
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visitors that they have set up this planet for and
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that they have set up structures for, especially working with
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the elite powers in control, they have set up a
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system where they collect collect this They collect many of
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these negative emotions from us that produce an energy, a
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type of energy that benefits them, that helps them, and
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that they seek out, as well as the harvesting of
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bodies and people that they appear to take away from
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us every year, and that's something. Those are arrangements that
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are made with the elite powers in control who have
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made these arrangements since since long long ago, and in
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exchange for some of our bodies that go to them,
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they receive they receive continued control over us, over humanity,
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and we receive also technology as well, it appears, and
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that's what all every investigation that you do in this
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area always leads back to these basic truths that it
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seemed to occur.
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Now, you kind of let into one of my questions
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about the elite powers in control. Now, how far do
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you think this communication or this odd relationship between these
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entities and these the elite powers in control have gone on.
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Well, I think they've always gone on. But there are
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certain high points where we can look back in history
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and we can see that the malevolent alien visitors were
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coming together with the elite powers in control to try
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to establish a higher order of relationship with more commerce
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going back and forth. And one of those points was
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World War two when when Hitler and the Nazis were
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working closely with some malevolent alien visitors that were giving
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them technology that were giving them the ability to win
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the war with and had UFOs on their side working
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with them, and we saw that terrible clash in Antarctica
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when we had we had a Navy battalion sailing over
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to Nu Schwaben Land in Antarctica to destroy Hitler's forces
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out there, Operation Hyjump exactly, Operation High Jump Admiral byrd
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And what happened we had a bunch we know from
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pieces of the diary of Admiral Bird's diary and other
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interviews that he gave before he was shut down, we
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know that a fleet of UFOs came out and destroyed
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the United States battalion that was that was on its
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way out there and destroyed them, just took them apart
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and ed mc bird had to had to abort the
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operation and go home. Basically, so we know that at
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that time there was a section portion of malevolent alien
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visitors that were working with Hitler. But for some reason
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at the end, at the end, they decided to pull
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the plug on him. Because he had he had everything
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that he needed to win the war right and he
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had and he had the UFOs on his side. He
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had everything, but they decided to pull the plug on him.
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And nobody knows why. Maybe it was the benevolent alien
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visitors that that decided to uh to stop that, and
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but whatever the reason was, they pulled the plug on
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him and uh and decided that no, this was not
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the time and this was not the place, and they
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were not going to help him win ultimately. And so
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that's that's one of the high points of cooperation with
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the elite powers and Control and the and the malevolent
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alien visitors. Another one was just a short time later Roswell,
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the Roswell Crash, when the malevolent alien Visitors and the
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elite Powers and Control created this hyped up alien physical
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craft suppose it, that was crashed by the side of
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the road to show everybody that alien visitors are just
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like us, that they're just physical. You know, you can
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have a car crash and you can end up dead
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by the side of the road, and they're just like us.
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So that happened to them, and there's the hybrid bodies
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that we got out of the ship. But they also
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accomplished another point that they wanted, which was to transfer
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technology to the nations, and that's why we had in
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nineteen forty seven this huge explosion of technology to all
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the nations, which really happened from that from the Roswell crash.
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And so yeah, so that's another high point, and that
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was really the high point of cooperation between alien visitors
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and the elite powers and control when they decided to
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send out the mandate to all nations that any truth
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about UFOs or alien visitors had to be covered up
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and denied by any nation anywhere in the world. And
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that has basically been rock solid wall against truth in
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this area since nineteen forty seven and now since last year,
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of course, as you know, as you know, Chris, we
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had this little crack in that wall where CNN and
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New York Times have been ordered to treat UFOs as real,
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as something real and serious that they have to really
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talk about. And they look really confused when they're doing it,
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because this is against their orders that they had for
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so long, and you can see the pain on their
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faces as they're sitting there doing these interviews. But anyway,
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but that's a very very tiny in that truth embargo,
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a very small one. But we need to take advantage
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of it and keep pressing in this area for truth
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and to bring down that wall, bring down that wall
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against truth so that we can really start spreading the
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truth of what's really going on in this area. And
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when you take advantage of that now.
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Now, as for bringing down that wall, do you think
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disclosure would ever come from our government or will it
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come from these entities or will it ever come?
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Oh no, We're going to have revelation, not not really disclosure,
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because the governments don't really have anything to disclose. I
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think we're going to have, for instance, we're going to
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have some of the release of the alien technology that
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is at Antarctica right now, where all the nations are
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kind of jockeying for a portion of that right now.
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And I think we are going to have that. But
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it's not going to be a disclosure because the governments
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cannot admit that they've had the ability to stop disease
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and to give free energy for forty fifty years. They
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can't knowing, they cannot reveal that. They can't admit that
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that will never be admitted. They can't because that would
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be that would be beyond the worst thing they could
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ever admit. But I think there will be released and
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there will be a revelation of this alien tech, of
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this superior technology that is going to be coming out
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very soon, and I think it's going to be through
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It's going to be through putin through Trump and other
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world leaders as well, and they're going to democratize a
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lot of this technology, and I think it's going to
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be happening pretty pretty soon.
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Very interesting. Now you mentioned Antarctica, and you know a
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couple of years ago they had the buzz Aldrin and
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John Kerry and all these world leaders visiting Antarctica, And
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is this the reason why they're going check out all
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this ancient alien tech.
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Well, that's part of it. Another part of it, it seems,
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is that they are being summoned to Antarctica because there's
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something alive there, something that is above human and that
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is alive, and that is summoning these world leaders to
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go there, because that's the only explanation there could be
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for somebody like Secretary of State John Kerry to drop
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everything on election night and when he should be, he
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should be with Obama in a room strategizing what they're
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going to do, and instead he drops everything and suddenly
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he gets on the plane, which is actually like five
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different planes that you have to get on in order
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to get to antire Arctica over like a period of
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like fifteen hours or so. And the only reason he
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would do that is because he's being summoned to go there.
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The same thing with the Eastern Orthodox Pope, the Pope
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of Eastern Orthodoxy, all, who's a man who's like in
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his eighties, and he is the Pope of the entire
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Eastern Orthodox religion. And he had not only did he
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have to run down to Antarctica all of a sudden,
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but he had to go meet with the Catholic Pope,
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the first time they've ever met in like a thousand years.
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He had to go meet with him, get some notes
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from him, and then run down to Antarctica. Why because
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he's being summoned first by someone who is more powerful
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than any national leader apparently. I mean, that's the only
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explanation I see, just from what I know of human behavior,
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especially of high political leaders like this. This guy is
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not subject to any nation, a national leader, and yet
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he ran, He ran like a dog in a race
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to go to Antarctica on just a moment's notice. And
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that's the only way that these guys have to go
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to Antarctica so quickly is because they are being summoned
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by something. There is something in Antarctica that is not human,
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that is alive, and that has authority I guess to
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be able to summon these different political leaders to have
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to come there and hold court with this thing, whatever
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it is.
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Wow, that is fascinating. And to think that there is
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an entity that has been there, and that leads me
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to there's theories that Antarctica could have been Atlantis. What
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are your thoughts on that.
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Well, I think Atlantis is according to all of the
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alternative skill that I have listened to and seen, it
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seems pretty convincing that Atlantis is not a continent, It's
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not one country. It's Atlantis was basically the entire world,
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the entire Earth one layer below before. It was basically
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what the entire world was before, during a previous incarnation,
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before the recorded history of Man. So I think that
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Atlantis is not just Antarctica. If it was, I mean
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very well could be. But even if it is, it's
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Atlantis was not just Antarctica. It was probably the entire
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planet at that point where we were in a much
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more advanced state. We were in a much more a
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much higher state of technology, and we had much more
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communing with what you call the gods. And that's that's
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the age of Man. That was the Atlantis age that
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was going.
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On, right, and want that kind of brings me back
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to the extra dimensional theory. Now, do you think we
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live in a multiverse where we live in multiple realities
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at one time?
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Absolutely, and we do. Anybody who goes to sleep in
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dreams can see that that's the case. We have many
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realities going on constantly. But what's funny about about this
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reality is that if you look at the evidence that's
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all around us, we have so much to consider even
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in just a single reality before we start going off
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to all the different multidimensional realities. It appears that the
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reason why we have no life currently, I mean, and
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this is hard for people to accept, it appears that
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in this dimension, in this physical reality, it appears there's
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no life out there. There's no life out there currently
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going on because of Firmi's paradox. They would be here already.
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They would be here openly, they would be they would
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be openly making commerce with us and so forth. But
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we see when you get ready, when you get through
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the fakery of NASA and the other space agencies and
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you go look at the real pictures what's going on,
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you see that there's ruins and structures on Mars, on
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the Moon, on the dark side of the Moon Jose
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Escamilla's work, you can see that other planets in our
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Solar system have built structures, have civilization gridlines that are there.
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I mean, there's pictures of things on Mars that appear
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to be currently functioning, appear to be going on right now,
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and as long as you don't look at the fakery
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of NASA and all the other state space agency, you
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can see what's really going on. So what it looks like,
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and the same is true here on Earth. There's this
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entire grid pattern talking about Atlantis of structures and things
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from the previous age of man supposedly, and that could
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not have been built by even our present state of technology.
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So what that says to me is that it appears
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that our own reality, like they said, like they say
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in the movie The Matrix, it appears that there have
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been several iterations of our civilization, of our human civilization
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maybe maybe human, maybe mixed with other things too, that
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have happened have come to an end. But instead of
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just erasing all of our reality and start clean, they
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basically have used the same matrix of this physical reality
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and just kind of superimposed us on top of it
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over and over again. That's what it looks like to me,
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which is a really wild thought, because why wouldn't they
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just erase that and start over. Apparently they haven't, because
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that's why we see all these ruins that appear to
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exist on almost every planet in our Solar system, and
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yet there's no life going on there currently except for us.
478
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.799
So that's a strange thing to consider when you're looking
479
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.359
at even just one reality.
480
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.000
Wow. So that being said, it could be a lot
481
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:32.519
easier to make contact with these entities than NASA is
482
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.440
trying to do by sending out probes and all this stuff.
483
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:39.160
We may be just be able to meditate or go
484
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.960
within ourselves to contact exactly.
485
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:46.240
You have a greater chance of contacting extra dimensional extraterrestrials
486
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.200
by going into a good deep meditation than by locking
487
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.880
yourself into some tin can being shot off into space,
488
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.000
because they ain't out there. They're here with us right now,
489
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.160
and all you have to do is be able to
490
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.559
penetrate these levels, these vade us, these locusts, and be
491
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.039
able to penetrate to the next level, which we can
492
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.240
do we have because the trick is because they are
493
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.960
these creatures are extra dimensional in nature. But the real
494
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.720
trick is we are also extra dimensional in nature because
495
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.119
we have that within ourselves, and so we need to
496
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.359
learn how to reach out on our own and be
497
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.400
able to contact these creatures, the benevolent ones hopefully and
498
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.160
be able to see what our next steps are going
499
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.279
to be from here so we can reach our potential
500
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.839
potential that we really need to reach.
501
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:43.079
So do you think that's what outfits like CERN is
502
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.680
trying to do? Maybe break through that veil.
503
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.759
Very possible, But according to everything I've seen from them,
504
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:54.359
they're not reaching out for the benevolent creatures. They appear
505
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.160
to be working with the malevolent ones. Because I see
506
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.759
a big old statue of Collie, thank Goddess outside of
507
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.519
their offices, right at their main headquarters building, and that's
508
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.480
not a good harbinger what they're what they're up to. So, yeah,
509
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.720
we need to we need to stop paying attention to
510
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:19.799
agencies like NASA that have been proven too that are
511
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.759
dedicated to making us all look in the wrong direction,
512
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.200
to make us keep us looking up at empty space,
513
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.680
and to keep us in that frame of thought where
514
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.799
we're always looking at the wrong things and we're thinking
515
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.759
that space travel is something that is going to help
516
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.319
us it's for our benefit. It's not gonna It's the
517
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.839
reason they push space travels so much is not for
518
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.839
our benefit. It's to benefit the nations. It's to benefit
519
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.799
what they want, which is that they want mining. They
520
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.119
want to get their hands on some of those ruins
521
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.440
I was just talking about, because they can get because
522
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.519
it means power. For the nations, that's what they want.
523
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:11.839
They always seek power, and that means mining, mining colonies,
524
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:16.440
that means getting their hands on alien tech, on things
525
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:22.200
that give them power. But for us, that probably means slavery,
526
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.079
having to actually work those minds and having to work
527
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.559
rest getting some of this technology, which is not going
528
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.480
to be good for us. It's only going to be
529
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.119
good for the nations. That just increases their power. That's
530
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:35.000
what they really want.
531
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.240
So do you think we currently have something going on,
532
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.440
possibly on Mars, maybe on the Moon.
533
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.839
I believe we probably do, but that's probably under the
534
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.079
Secret Space Program, which is maintained out of the reach
535
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.240
of NASA and the regular space agencies. Above their level.
536
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.799
They may participate like in a compartment mentalized way where
537
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.200
you know you have to produce certain widgets to help
538
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.559
the Secret Space Program, but you don't even know what
539
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.920
you're doing yourself because you're not told. So they could
540
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:16.599
have limited involvement in that way, but doesn't mean they
541
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.320
have any the real information on the secret space program
542
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.719
as far as how it's how it actually works. But
543
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.440
I'm sure it works with and this is just speculation
544
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:30.639
of my part. I'm sure that it works with jump pads,
545
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:38.400
jump platforms, teleportation, not like locking yourself in a tin
546
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.119
can and being fired into space. I don't think it.
547
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.360
I'm sure it does not work that way. But yes,
548
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.519
to answer your question, ultimately, I believe because of all,
549
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:53.159
I do believe that we have colonies, very possibly have
550
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.400
colonies working on Mars right now. And the real thing
551
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.199
that convinces me that that is true is the amount
552
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.159
of these fake whistleblowers that have been sent forward to
553
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.920
make us believe the opposite. In other words, you know,
554
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.840
they sent forward these uh, these uh, these very carefully
555
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:18.440
groomed fake whistleblowers that say, yeah, I was I was
556
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.079
on the I was in Mars with Obama. I was
557
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.679
with him, and we were both young kids, and we
558
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.599
were working the mind out there, and there was a
559
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.000
bunch of kids out there, and it's been going on
560
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.679
for forty years and and with without a shred of evidence.
561
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.599
You know, there's a there's a great saying. There's a
562
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:39.400
saying that science that PhDs like to say academics that
563
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:46.800
great claims require great evidence. Well, having been a lawyer,
564
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.400
uh for a long time, having been in the in
565
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.079
the court system for a very long time, I I
566
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.760
know that that's not true. That happens not to be true.
567
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.719
Great claims do not require great evidence, They absolutely don't.
568
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:06.639
What they require is great claims require some evidence, some evidence,
569
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:11.480
just enough to survive emotion to dismiss, because whatever you
570
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.079
say is true, there's always going to be cynics and
571
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.960
scientists that come forward to say, oh, that's not true.
572
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:18.559
We got to get rid of that. Just get rid
573
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.000
of it, don't don't even consider it. And if you
574
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:25.000
have some evidence, i mean just some of what you're
575
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:31.159
saying is true, then you're able to survive that motion
576
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.920
to dismiss, and you're able to put forward to the
577
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.199
fact finder, which in this case is used. The audience
578
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.760
is the people listening, they're the fact. They're the people
579
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.000
who are going to decide is this a fact? It's
580
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.400
not a fact, maybe it is. They're the ones who
581
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.920
have to decide, and if you just have some evidence,
582
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:50.639
just something that backs up what you're saying, you're able
583
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.280
to push that forward. And you have and you will
584
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.280
survive that motion to dismiss, and you will have it
585
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.440
in front of the audience, who then can decide, can
586
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.320
put base tests and say Okay, this is credible or
587
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.320
this is not credible. And that's what we need to
588
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:11.280
always do. And so when somebody comes forward and says, yeah,
589
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:15.199
I was with Obama on Mars, and I was, you know,
590
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.880
they don't have to have great evidence, they don't. They
591
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.840
just have to have something, something that they can show
592
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.800
and say, you know, this is what it is. Here,
593
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.800
it is, you know, and now you consider it, You
594
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.800
consider whether it's credible or not. Otherwise, yeah, you got
595
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.320
to you gotta dismiss that stuff if it's not. But
596
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.320
the amount of these guys, the amount of these guys
597
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.639
that have come forward with this Mars you know, uh, people,
598
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.440
they are designed to fail. They are designed to make
599
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.320
us believe that they have to be dismissed, that this
600
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.880
whole secret space program thing, Mars colonies on Mars, that
601
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.360
it's all bs, it's all nonsense, and rightfully so that's
602
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.159
all very predictable behavior. If you if somebody comes forward
603
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.840
and makes it claim like that, and the trick is this,
604
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.360
those guys are put forward on purpose in order to
605
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.800
make to make the whole subject matter be frozen in
606
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:24.079
a context of bizarreness and stupidity so that no one
607
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.159
ever again will look at this area and say, yeah,
608
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.559
I guess that could be true now, Because that's why
609
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:35.440
these whistleblowers are put forward, the ridiculous ones, the ones
610
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:40.199
that are just saying crazy stuff with no evidence whatsoever,
611
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.039
no evidence because remember, you don't need great evidence, but
612
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.360
you do need some and they're put forward on purpose.
613
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.559
And when you see that, you have to I, as
614
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.360
an investigator, right away, I think this is an op.
615
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.039
This is some kind of psychological operation to cover this area. Why,
616
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:04.360
because are worried. They're worried that you, Chris, are going
617
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.960
to dig into this and that you are going to say, Hey,
618
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.639
there's there's the pictures, the ones that NASA didn't want.
619
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:12.159
Us to see.
620
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.599
There's these pictures, these pictures, there's this this, and there's
621
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:19.039
testimony here, and yeah, it looks like we have colonies
622
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.960
people on Mars. It looks like they're there and they
623
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.360
don't want that. So that's why you're going to see
624
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:32.320
more of not not not credible whistleblowers, but ridiculous ones,
625
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:34.920
and you're gonna have the have them come forward more
626
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.599
and more, and you're always going to see that in
627
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.639
the area of Mars colonies and all of that makes
628
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.840
me absolutely believe, as I do now that we do
629
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.440
have colonies on Mars, and that's why they're trying to
630
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:48.480
cover it up so much.
631
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.519
Yes, I agree. And speaking of the misdirection, what do
632
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:55.920
you what are your thoughts on the Trump's space force.
633
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.920
I think that the Trump space force is not what
634
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.039
it appears to be. With Trump, nothing ever is, because
635
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:11.159
he thinks at a different level than everybody else's. He's
636
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.360
he's a devote of Sun Sioux if you've ever if
637
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.840
you've ever read that, he's complete devotee of Sun Sue
638
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:25.519
methods of war. And what that was. When he did
639
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.360
that announcement of a space force, he did that for
640
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:34.000
one reason, for one main, primary reason, and that was
641
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.679
his announcement to the elite powers in control that he
642
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:44.800
is coming for their secret space program and he's bringing
643
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.760
an army with him. That was basically that was the
644
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:54.280
primary purpose of that whole space force thing, because right
645
00:40:54.320 --> 00:41:00.000
now they have this tremendous specret space program that as
646
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.559
the orbs economic power from all the nations, black money,
647
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.159
that takes black money from all the nations, especially the
648
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:11.039
United States. You know, there's trillions that are missing at
649
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:15.639
the Pentagon over how many years, And the same is
650
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.920
true from the other industrialized companies countries. And so you've
651
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.920
got all these resources and you've got all this secret
652
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.599
space program going on, and they are above the presidents
653
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.199
and the prime ministers. The prime ministers are not read
654
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.480
into this program. Neither are the presidents. But now there's
655
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.519
one president who basically made an announcement that he is
656
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.239
coming and he is going to participate in that secret
657
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.159
space program, and not only that, he's going to take
658
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.480
it over. And that's what that announcement was all about.
659
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:50.599
It's pretty wild.
660
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.599
So you believe Trump is genuinely trying to take down
661
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:56.480
the cabal.
662
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.360
Well, that's part of what he's trying to do. He's
663
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.239
also but it's not just him. This is a worldwide
664
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:08.559
movement that includes putin who is That includes all of
665
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.440
the nationalists populist leaders who are currently in the state
666
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:17.039
of global rebellion against the elite powers in control that
667
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:23.400
have that have dominated our nation and our planet for
668
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.400
how long. I mean, I couldn't even how long through
669
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:31.400
using the central banking systems and everything else, but yet,
670
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.800
but basically for the first time, and I don't know
671
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:39.239
how long, probably since the French Revolution, we have a
672
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.920
group of nationalist populist leaders that are and this is
673
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:47.880
much bigger than Trump, who are who have openly declared
674
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.079
rebellion against the elite powers in control, against the central
675
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:56.360
banking dynasties, against these all of these powers that sit
676
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.440
above the nations and that give them their orders every
677
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.199
every day. And that space force thing was just a giant,
678
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.039
a big slap in the face to them basically to
679
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.559
tell them that he is coming. And also the space
680
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.679
Force also is another method that I believe he's going
681
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:18.239
to use to democratize, to let out and democratize some
682
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:23.679
of this, uh, this alien space technology, this alien technology
683
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.320
that is going to be given to all of us.
684
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.880
And he's going to probably use the space Force because
685
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.079
you can't do like we said before, he can't do
686
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.400
disclosure from the governments. He can't do that. But I
687
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.199
believe he is looking for a way to let out
688
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.920
this technology and say, oh, the Space Force came up
689
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.679
with this. You know, they they found it, they got
690
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.679
it through here or through there. And who's gonna who's
691
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.800
going to contradict him? You know, nobody's going to say, hey,
692
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.079
that didn't come from the Space Force. That came from
693
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.199
from us, from the elite powers and control.
694
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:56.119
We we had that.
695
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.480
Tech for a long time. Yeah, you're you're just saying
696
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.760
that you got from the Nobody's gonna do that, So
697
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.079
it's perfect. It's perfect on many levels for him to
698
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:05.480
do that.
699
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.239
Well, that would be that would be great if that could,
700
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.679
you know, that could come to pass. And I'd like
701
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.719
to take the last few minutes to talk a little
702
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.079
bit about one of your more recent books, Clear Hearers.
703
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.719
Could you explain to us what exactly are clear hearers?
704
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:26.880
Yes. Clear hearers are people who have an ability, which
705
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:33.960
is an ancient ability to perceive a great voice of authority,
706
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.679
great voice of authority that comes in not through the ears,
707
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:43.119
but from basically everywhere else. And it is it is
708
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.199
an ability. It is not it's not like a voice hearers.
709
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.039
Voice hearers are people have a medical condition where they
710
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:56.360
hear voices. H a clear hearer hears receives a single
711
00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:01.599
voice of authority that comes in to help them, to
712
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.199
uplift them, sometimes to save their lives. And it is
713
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.159
something that is named after It's actually named after Joan
714
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:11.239
of Arc, who was the fourteen year old girl in
715
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.960
the fourteenth century who saved France from going out of
716
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:20.519
existence when France had basically been overrun by the English,
717
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and ninety percent of France had been taken over by
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the English, and they were basically about to go out
719
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of existence, and then a miracle happened and Joan of
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Arc had these voices come to her, and she said
721
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the voice was the voices were Mother Mary. That's how
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00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.519
she described it. She and this with the voices that
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00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.000
told her what to do, how to go forward, and
724
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that she would be the savior of France. And so
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00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.079
the word claire audience. Claire audient came from Joan of
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Arc in France, which is actually a French word. Clear
727
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.559
Heroes is the first English iteration of this word claire audience,
728
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.159
which just means to hear clearly, clear hearing, and so
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00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.119
and there have been many other historical figures that also
730
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:11.599
had the same abilities Winston Churchill. But in his case,
731
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his advisors said that it was because he would be
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blackout drunk and so he would hear voices. And there's
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00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:24.480
many other there's many other figures. Philip K. Dick, Philip K. Dick,
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the great writer. He actually had a public press conference
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about his great voice that would come to him and
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speak to him and tell him. Also Socrates. Socrates called
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00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.719
his voice his great damon damon, and it was a
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00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.360
voice that would come to him when he was about
739
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:41.519
to make a bad decision.
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So Clear Heroes is.
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Basically my investigation of in my own life as well
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and the lives of others, of this voice, where it
743
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comes from, what it is, and how people can use
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00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.199
that use it to their advantage, and how it can
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help them in their everyday lives.
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And what would you say? The source of this voice is.
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00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:11.360
Well, the way that I have investigated this to me,
748
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I believe that I reveal in this book what I
749
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.159
believe ultimately the source is, which I believe is the
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person themselves, but on a multi dimensional level, because like
751
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.639
I said before, we are ourselves extra dimensional as well,
752
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:32.639
and so it is this version of you that is
753
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.360
in the eternal It is a version of you that
754
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.159
basically barely remembers what it was like to be a
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00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:44.320
human being chasing after stuff. But it is this great
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00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.280
and grand, eternal version of you that still feels a
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00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:51.920
connection to you, and that looks back at you and
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00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.760
will always have love for you and want to support
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and uplift you. That is ultimately the source of that
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00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.159
great voice. And I make the case for that in
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00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:01.599
my book.
762
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.119
That's very interesting. So it could even be a distant
763
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:10.800
future version of you, but in a different, different reality.
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00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:14.400
Right And that does not preclude the other answers that
765
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.320
I investigate in my book as well. It doesn't preclude
766
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.880
alien that could be an alien visitor, because that could
767
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.559
be your form in the future, or angels that could
768
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be your form in the future. You know, we don't know,
769
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:32.119
because the ultimately, the extra dimensional reality of this is
770
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.679
something beyond our ability to understand. Right now.
771
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.960
Wow, fascinating stuff and thank you for that, and I
772
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appreciate you coming on, John, Do you have anything interesting
773
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.400
coming up that you'd like to talk about?
774
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.840
Absolutely? Yes, I have to talk about my conferences conference
775
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.480
I have coming up in October. I have let me
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get it, get it, get It, Get it. I have
777
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:04.159
my conference coming up in October which will be a
778
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:09.280
very great conference which looks like I just moved it
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from where I had it and it will be in Pasadena,
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California in October, and we will be with Neil Gower
781
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and many many other great, great speakers and we're very
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00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.199
excited for it, and I unfortunately I moved it from
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00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:39.840
my thing here and I will also be I'll be
784
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.119
having a conference soon in China, which is I'm signing
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00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:49.320
up for now, which will be really really something. So yeah,
786
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I have a lot of things coming up. Just finished
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Contact in the Desert, and we will be having a
788
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:00.400
lot a lot of great events coming up that I
789
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.320
hope people can get out to and spend time with
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us doing this stuff.
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Definitely, definitely. And I'm going to leave a link to
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your site and your books and our description. John, thank
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you again so much for joining us tonight. We'd love
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to have you back on and you have a great night.
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Thanks, thanks man, Thanks so much. It's great being on
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here with you.
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Awesome. Let's talk to you later. Hi, I'd like to
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00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:34.960
welcome Captain Randy Kramer. How you doing tonight, Randy.
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I'm good. I'm in Washington State right now, and we're
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in a bit of a cold snap, so it's in
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the twenties, so BurrH But I'm good.
802
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.960
Yeah, And you're in a interesting situation tonight. I understand
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you don't have good connection in your house, So are
804
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you actually broadcasting from your car? There?
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I am there. I'm actually piggybacking on the fi of
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a restaurant that I go to all the time that
807
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has pretty decent Wi Fi. And my roommates, who are
808
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wonderful people, don't believe in having Wi Fi now, So
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if I could plug in a hard line to my phone,
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which I can't, then that would work. And my laptop
811
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is really just an antique and it doesn't do my
812
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Zoom very well. It doesn't do my Skype very well.
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I lose audio all the time, and so I've just
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given up trying to use it to do audio video
815
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conference calls and interviews on my computer because it's just
816
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.199
a piece of crap. So yeah, that's the situation, right.
817
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.159
So I'm a little shadowy in my image there, but
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I'm here.
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I promise, like I said, We're gonna make it work.
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And Randy has a fascinating story. I don't know if
821
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any of my subscribers have heard this, but we're going
822
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to delve deep into it. We're going to get to
823
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as much as possible in the time we have. But first,
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for those who aren't familiar with the secrets program in general, Randy,
825
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.079
could you give us a little just a brief overview
826
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.199
of what the twenty and back program entails.
827
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.360
Well, it's been pretty standard dase on us COVID table.
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Can you hear me here? How you look here? Yeah?
829
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You froze up there for a second. I can hear
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00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:23.039
you now, though.
831
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.039
I think I just have bad connection. Let's see if
832
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.239
I see if I pull forward a couple of feet,
833
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.360
if that helps, I might get an extra bar out
834
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of that. So it's pretty standard fair for a number
835
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to get the maximum value of personnel to do a
836
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twenty year tour. So and for most people who aren't
837
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:47.239
quote unquote volunteers for these programs, they have to reinsert
838
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.880
you back into the timeline that they took you from,
839
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:57.840
uh to relive your life without sort of having missing
840
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:02.320
that twenty years. So in my case, I was taken
841
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away from my tour of duty when I was seventeen
842
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.679
years old. At about two thirty am in the morning
843
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and was returned both twenty years later and fifteen minutes
844
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:19.960
later to forty five the same night. So they go
845
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through a process which they coggression. My understanding of the
846
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.639
process is they actually hatch out a fresh cloned body
847
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.920
for you, age it up to the age that they
848
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.360
took you from, stick you your entire consciousness and your
849
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.800
spiritual soul being, which they can do. I know that
850
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:35.679
may sound weird to some people if that's the first
851
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.880
time they're hearing. This can be extracted from your body
852
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:40.840
as a vessel and put into another vessel, and they
853
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.760
put it into another copy of yourself and then return
854
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.280
you fifty minutes later. So you wake up the next
855
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.519
day feeling like you had a really long I'm here again,
856
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:55.400
So you just kind of presume in your brain and
857
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.360
your body that you're just right back where you started from.
858
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:04.840
Even there are some residual, repressed memories that kind of
859
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.039
bleed through almost immediately, but without a linear context, it
860
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.519
doesn't make any sense. So I didn't really start to
861
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.360
get what I would say a barrage of linear memories
862
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.199
for almost a decade after that, which was just very
863
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:23.960
confusing at the time. And then it took another decade
864
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.920
really to get what I would call total recall, where
865
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.119
I've recovered and recall every memory my entire experience frontwards
866
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.559
back from day one to the last day, or at
867
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.199
least as the best that most people can recall a
868
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.039
twenty year period of time, or a twenty year tour
869
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:38.440
of duty.
870
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.039
So how old were you when you had that total recall?
871
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.679
I was about thirty seven.
872
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.880
You said you were about thirty seven.
873
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.039
Correct, about thirty seven years old, So it was about
874
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:58.039
twenty years after I did my tour, which I've I've
875
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.840
spoken to an a lot of people. I get emails
876
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.760
from people all the time who are having difficulties recovering
877
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.559
memories and are asking me for guidance in that area.
878
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.760
And it's a similar kind of process for a lot
879
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:13.920
of people. A lot of people start to get their
880
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.760
memories between sort of ten twelve years after their tour,
881
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:21.039
and people who have gone about another almost twenty years
882
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:24.320
post their tour, if they've done some work on it,
883
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.119
have regained a large chunk of their memories by that time.
884
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.880
Some people, though, if they haven't done the memory recall
885
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:34.639
personal memory recall process, whether that's either hypnotic regressions or
886
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:39.760
personal meditative data state regressions. Then I've known people in
887
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.000
their late thirties, early forties, late forties who are still
888
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.440
extracting memories from their experiences. So it depends on at
889
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.000
what point you decide to dive into it and chew
890
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.840
up that shit pizza.
891
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.159
So most people that have gone through this program, or
892
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.800
a lot of them, are my lab victims therebducted from
893
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a young age and kind of groomed for the program.
894
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:08.400
But your experience was a little different, is that right correct?
895
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.800
United States Maring Corps Special Section in the mid sixties
896
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.840
did a study on the effects of these sort of
897
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:24.000
what we call it the trauma based mind control technique
898
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:29.719
trained a lot so that it was very ineffective to
899
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.239
the lifespan and effectiveness of the personnel that were being
900
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.400
trained or persecuted that way. Really, so they came up
901
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.559
with another idea and suggested some changes, which a number
902
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.199
of agencies at the table rejected and decided that they
903
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.800
didn't want to change that, that they'd rather have murder
904
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:48.000
machines that they could snap their fingers who would kill
905
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:53.960
on command. And so USMCSS started its own program and
906
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.119
started training its soldiers using what we simply call a
907
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.719
with the grain technique, which, instead of trying to break
908
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:06.360
people in order to make them pliable, it uses deep
909
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:12.679
subliminal messaging and programming from an early age to essentially
910
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:17.239
train them as better soldiers. Which better soldiers really, their
911
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.880
goal is not to just murder people. Their goal is
912
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:25.239
to complete a mission while using lethal force if necessary,
913
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.960
and not necessarily just murdering people at the snap of
914
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.519
a finger. So that's a basic gist of it. I
915
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.280
could go into quite a bit more detail about that,
916
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.519
but for the sake of time, we'll just call that
917
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.599
simplicity the simple answer.
918
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:44.760
So what about your personal experience? I mean, you were
919
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.199
I guess you could say grown in a sort of
920
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.079
Petri dish.
921
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.079
Well, yeah, I mean I was engineered from the ground up.
922
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.639
So my DNA was sex segments of my DNA were
923
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.880
taken from my mother, from my father, put together like
924
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.440
most people are normally. But then my DNA sequence was
925
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laid out and the parts that they wanted to take
926
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:11.840
out were removed, and then they put in some extraterrestrial
927
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DNA sets and wound that up again into the nuclei
928
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of the cells and put me back into my mother's
929
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.320
womb where I was just stated and then born.
930
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So what age do you remember any type of training
931
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that you went through.
932
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:32.119
I can remember training as early as about age four
933
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four and a half, like really really young, like able
934
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:40.000
to you know, motor walk and move, but not in
935
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any way what I would say. I mean, most four
936
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year olds aren't really hand eye coordinated. So we weren't,
937
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you know, practicing martial arts at that age or practicing
938
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with rifles or pistols at that age. But we were
939
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:56.320
practicing group activities, learning how to work as a team,
940
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.559
hide and seek things that you know, were the brain
941
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and the body, and training us how to work as
942
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a group and as a unit. So very early, early
943
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early training like that was not so militaristic so much
944
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as it was behavioralistic.
945
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So I assume your combat training started at a little
946
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bit eight a later.
947
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Age, probably yeah, by about six or seven.
948
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Wow.
949
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So by the time a six or seven year old,
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can you know, has the hand eye coordination to start
951
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learning martial arts and the ability to start handling tools
952
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and weapons. So we started learning, yeah, probably about six
953
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six and a half, not you know before seven years old.
954
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Now, did you have like a normal family situation.
955
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:49.639
Oh, absolutely, these the training periods, you're essentially you're taken
956
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away at night, uh, and then brought back again. Typical
957
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fair is fifteen minutes after you're left. So there are
958
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trace amounts of time travel that are involved in this.
959
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:06.000
So my parents had no idea until I gave them
960
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.000
a briefing on this way about seven years ago. So
961
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:11.400
they now, My mother and father both did say when
962
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.320
I gave them that briefing, Oh, that makes a lot
963
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.639
of things make sense. So there were ripples, you know,
964
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:20.960
throughout my childhood that gave them the impression that something
965
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.840
unusual was going on. But in the same way that
966
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:27.280
my waking memories didn't have a linear experience to connect
967
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.199
the dots to neither today. So most people, when you
968
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.039
have weird anomalist things occurring and you don't have a
969
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:36.920
linear set of dots to connect, your brain tends to
970
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:41.280
just reject any unusual explanations and go for something that's
971
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.480
much more mundane or normal, because you know, you don't
972
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.960
want to be too weird or too crazy as far
973
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.719
as most other people are concerned. So you know, our
974
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.840
brain tends to normalize our own socialization based on the
975
01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:54.840
world that we live in.
976
01:00:56.199 --> 01:01:00.480
So were you, I guess, basically aware that time that
977
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:01.920
you were being taken at night.
978
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:08.079
I had residual memories of experiences during the day that
979
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679
I just couldn't again put all the dots together, so
980
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:13.920
and I knew that I wasn't supposed to talk about
981
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.360
any of these things, and I was also inhibited from
982
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.800
talking about it. There were times when I felt like
983
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.039
I wanted to try and say something, or I wanted
984
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.480
to try and talk about it to someone, but would
985
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.280
literally open my mouth and be unable to make words.
986
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:33.559
So even it was didn't take long in my youth
987
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:37.119
before I just simply gave up trying to communicate about
988
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.639
it because I understood that even when I did try
989
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.679
to talk about these things, I was physically incapable of
990
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.000
doing so, So I, you know, didn't talk about it
991
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.400
because I couldn't. But again, mostly because you don't have
992
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:57.239
this complete dots to connective memories. It's residual things, residual impressions, flashes,
993
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:02.159
the ability to do things biome mechanically. You know, the
994
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.559
first time that I, as a very young child, that
995
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:08.320
I exhibited the ability to just automatically perform a act
996
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.320
of physical self defense. I was as shocked, I think,
997
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.039
as anybody else who was watching what happened, because I
998
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.400
had no idea from that point of experience to understand
999
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.039
how in the world I had been how I learned
1000
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.320
martial arts without training that I remember, without going to
1001
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.360
classes that I remember taking basically, so I had the
1002
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.159
residual memories of it. I knew there was something there,
1003
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.000
but again, without a linear set of dots to connect,
1004
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.519
I was just as eager in my frontal lobe to
1005
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:38.000
go now there's nothing to that as anybody else would be,
1006
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.000
because I didn't want to be abnormal or unusual. I
1007
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.800
really just wanted to be normal like everybody else. And
1008
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:48.880
accepting that there was something more going on with those
1009
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.440
residual memories or the dreams that I would have that
1010
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.880
were essentially replays of some of those events and some
1011
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.079
of those training exercises, you know, that would have just
1012
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.480
meant that I was not like everybody else, and I
1013
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.599
didn't want to not be like everybody else. So I
1014
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:05.199
didn't even want to go there as far as my
1015
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:06.320
frontal lobe was concerned.
1016
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.280
And how do you know that these memories aren't just
1017
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.800
implanted or screen memories that were placed there.
1018
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.400
That's a fair question, and I will say that the
1019
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:21.760
answer to that is over time, as in my late twenties,
1020
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:23.519
when it started to become more and more clear that
1021
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:27.840
there was something more, As these memories became more vivid,
1022
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:32.079
more consistent, more dots to connect. I undertook a very
1023
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:35.400
serious process to get to the bottom of these memories
1024
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.639
by diving into my subconscious and extracting them. And I
1025
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:46.079
spent thousands of hours for several years in deep meditative
1026
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:48.960
states with a mantra that was I want the truth,
1027
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:50.880
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, no matter what.
1028
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:55.440
And I would often come up from a deep meditative
1029
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.119
experience with a set of memories and I would look
1030
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.239
at that and go, you know what, No, And I
1031
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.280
would immediately reject that those memories that I was recalling
1032
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.159
were true. And I would do it again the next day,
1033
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.440
and again the next day, and sometimes I would spend
1034
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.800
an entire week or two weeks going over the same
1035
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.199
area of memories again and again and again with what
1036
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:19.519
I would say, a scrutinous self doubt, so that by
1037
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.360
the time I got to the end of that process
1038
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:28.239
of gathering one set of memories, and they were consistent
1039
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.960
every time, and they didn't change every time, and they
1040
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.559
were as vivid and real and visceral as any other
1041
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:36.719
memory that I've ever had about anything. My only conclusion
1042
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:38.880
was that they had to be legit and had to
1043
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.719
be real. Now, I will say, as far as talking
1044
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:45.320
about screen memories, there occasionally would in this process a
1045
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.320
false or of screen memory come up. But in a
1046
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:52.000
deep state, screen memories don't last. They don't really hold
1047
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:56.400
up to any scrutiny. They actually appear two dimensional, so
1048
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:01.199
they fall apart. They fall down. And when you push
1049
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:04.519
on a screen memory, you get to the real memory
1050
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.679
behind it. So someone who doesn't push to a screen
1051
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.000
memory is not going to necessarily get to the real memory.
1052
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.039
But I pushed and I pushed, and I pushed and
1053
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:16.280
I pushed on every memory until I was absolutely certain
1054
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:20.039
that it was something legitimate that was happening or had
1055
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:21.079
happened to my experience.
1056
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:25.599
Very interesting. And what age did you say you first
1057
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.599
actually went to Mars.
1058
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:29.599
That was when I was seventeen.
1059
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.519
Now did they approach you and say, hey, you're going
1060
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.719
to be going to Mars now or did it just happen?
1061
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:37.679
How did that happen.
1062
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.599
Well, I certainly had been trained for years enough to
1063
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.280
know that at some point I was going to get deployed,
1064
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:50.559
and by that age, training sessions will typically occur when
1065
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:55.320
a couple of technicians would come through essentially a wormhole
1066
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.559
in the wall of my bedroom. A light, a sort
1067
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.119
of a yellowish greenish bluish light would kind of appear
1068
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.039
in the room, and I would sit up and these
1069
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:08.800
two technicians would come out of the wormhole, the localized
1070
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.320
wormhole a door in the wall, if you will, and
1071
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:15.159
would you know, escort me through to a situation where
1072
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.920
I would go through a training exercise. So when I
1073
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:23.519
was deployed, the same sort of exercise of having this
1074
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:26.480
wormhole open up in the wall having two technicians step
1075
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.039
out was completely normal for me at that point, and
1076
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.280
I just walked through like every other experience. But by
1077
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:33.159
the time I got to lo An Operations Command and
1078
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:36.840
was having a contract put out in front of me
1079
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:39.440
and having a junior officer explained to me that I
1080
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.760
had to sign initial sign Initial nine to sign an
1081
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.800
initial this contract and that then I was actually going
1082
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.920
for a deployment. Then I knew I was being deployed,
1083
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:52.599
but up until that point, I just presumed, like every
1084
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:54.960
other situation that I had been through, like that it
1085
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.199
was just another training exercise. But yeah, it wasn't. It
1086
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.360
was a oh, we're actually deploying you somewhere now, And
1087
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.719
I didn't No one told me. Uh The junior officer
1088
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.119
who we filled out the contract with, he didn't tell
1089
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:08.039
me I was going to Mars. He just said, well.
1090
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:09.440
When I asked him the question, I was like, well,
1091
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.119
where am I going? He's like, well, I actually can't
1092
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.920
tell you that it's classified. But you know, I can't
1093
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.039
tell you that. You have to sign and initial this
1094
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.920
entire contract and then you know, you'll be informed of
1095
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.320
where you're going to go. Which he still didn't inform
1096
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.480
me of where I was going to go. We had
1097
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:25.079
to wait until we got aboard the transport ship, and
1098
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:30.119
the transport ship actually took off to uh through through
1099
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:34.639
another larger wormhole from Earth orbit to Mars orbit, and
1100
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:37.280
then the captain of the ship said, welcome to Mars.
1101
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:40.119
That was actually the first moment that I knew where
1102
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:40.679
I was going.
1103
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.440
Now, did they was this your physical body or did
1104
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.400
they just transfer your consciousness to a clone?
1105
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:53.639
Oh no, this was my physical body, absolutely.
1106
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.719
So when when did the consciousness transfer? When did that occur?
1107
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.320
That was on the return trip, So after I'd served
1108
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.280
my twenty year tour, came back to Luna Operations Command.
1109
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:08.000
I'm thirty seven years old at that point, but they
1110
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.320
got to send me back to nineteen eighty seven. If
1111
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.039
I had woken up a thirty seven year old man
1112
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:15.199
in my bed at seventeen, that would have been awkward
1113
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:19.079
for everyone. So at that point they decided to hatch
1114
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.720
from again from the process. As I understand it, they
1115
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.560
hatched out a seventeen year old clone, stuck me into that,
1116
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.279
and then returned me back to my bed.
1117
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.720
Okay, so through you went through a portal, and where
1118
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.439
did you end up on the other side of the portal?
1119
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:37.119
Initially on the Moon?
1120
01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.760
Well, actually it was to a facility I want to
1121
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.439
say was somewhere in the American Southwest, and we boarded
1122
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.640
a TR three B, which is the Black Triangle ships,
1123
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:49.800
and then from there we went to the Moon, which
1124
01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:52.239
is about a ninety minute trip. And again I'm guessing
1125
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:55.600
the location because as we took off and left Earth,
1126
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.079
I was actually sitting next to a window and I
1127
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.159
could look out and see where we were leaving from
1128
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:06.119
so I couldn't tell, you know, from the geography exactly
1129
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:09.399
where we were. But as we started to get higher
1130
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:11.680
and higher, I was like, Oh, Okay, that looks like
1131
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.039
we just took off from New Mexico or something like that.
1132
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.000
And then again, about ninety minutes later it got to
1133
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.680
the facility at lun Operations man at the landing bay there.
1134
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.079
How long did you spend on the Moon?
1135
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.239
I was a couple of days. Maybe it was basically
1136
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:33.800
just long enough to get a physical psyche valve, signed
1137
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.960
the contract and then get put on a transport ship.
1138
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.039
So it was maybe a couple of days we did.
1139
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:43.319
We were underground the entire time, didn't have access to clocks,
1140
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.279
There was no windows with sun or you know, daytime
1141
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:48.720
or night time. So it's a guess that it was
1142
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:52.039
about two days, but I couldn't really be for sure
1143
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:52.520
about that.
1144
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:57.359
Now, who's behind all this? Who's running is it? Is
1145
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.720
it like a bunch of nation is it? Is it?
1146
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:08.159
Are we cooperating with ets to run this whole space program?
1147
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.119
Well, certainly in the early days we had a lot
1148
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:13.920
of help from extraterrestrial friends and neighbors who helped us
1149
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:18.760
establish the programs and build the ships and design them
1150
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.640
and build the programs that we were building. But currently,
1151
01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:27.239
and certainly by the time that I was deployed, the
1152
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:36.880
program was just a multi national contingent of countries who
1153
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.000
we would say traditional wild and it's the G seven.
1154
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:42.680
Now we would still consider these sort of G eight countries.
1155
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:48.119
The technologically advanced countries who were participating in the program
1156
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:52.239
at the time continue to participate in that program and
1157
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.520
are the backbone of the Earth Defense Force in the
1158
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.319
covert military space program, which is not just a United
1159
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:03.119
States program, not just the US and Great Britain or
1160
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:06.239
the US and Great Britain in Germany, it's you know, again,
1161
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:10.359
all of those G eight countries, plus we have started
1162
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.840
to let some of the other countries that we might
1163
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:15.880
consider sort of up to the G twenty now into
1164
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:19.439
the program. So most of those other countries don't necessarily
1165
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.239
build a lot of their own ships, but they are
1166
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:26.239
having officers, pilots, and personnel who are participating in the program,
1167
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.880
so they can benefit technologically from being in the program.
1168
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:35.600
Overall, did you encounter a lot of German influence?
1169
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:40.319
Not a lot where I was at. So the Nachtwaffen,
1170
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:43.159
which is the State, which is German for night Fleet,
1171
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.520
which is the dark Fleet, which is run by the
1172
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.960
news Schwabenlanders, who for anyone who doesn't know that, the
1173
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.399
New Schwabenlanders were the quote unquote German Nazis who left
1174
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:57.439
Germany went down to Antarctica to a little piece of
1175
01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.800
land that they had carved out and established in the
1176
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:06.319
called New Schwabenland. And legally, on paper they stopped being
1177
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:08.960
the Germans, they stopped being the Nazis, and they became
1178
01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.960
the New Schwabenlanders. So when the United Nations allowed them
1179
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.119
a secret chair that they didn't release to the public,
1180
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.119
they did not call them the Germans or the Nazis.
1181
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:21.600
They were called the New schabin Landers. And so they
1182
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:26.279
tend to call themselves the news Schwabenlanders, and that's what
1183
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.199
we tend to call them, so because they tend to
1184
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:33.720
operate their own fleet. No, we were not a part
1185
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:35.560
of that. I wasn't part of that fleet. I was
1186
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:38.840
with the either contracted in the MDF or in the
1187
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:44.119
Radiant Guardian fleet, which is let's just say pretty thin
1188
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:46.720
on German dialects.
1189
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:53.479
What et races were we friendly with on Mars?
1190
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:58.479
Well, That's a difficult question to answer. We were certainly
1191
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:04.079
there's four or five, maybe six different indigenous species on Mars.
1192
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:06.359
I'm not familiar enough with all of them to talk
1193
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:09.720
about all of them. I was in regular contact through
1194
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:15.159
combat operations with the indigenous insectoid sppecies and the indigenous
1195
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.039
reptoid species, so I know quite a bit about them,
1196
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:20.760
but I don't know too much about the other species
1197
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:23.880
that are present there because we simply didn't encounter them.
1198
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:27.399
I'm not sure what other friendly species we may have
1199
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.800
been working with because we never I never saw them
1200
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.800
or had any contact with them. And later on, when
1201
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:36.720
I was a pilot and had more contact with other
1202
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.039
extraterrestrial species, that was just sort of a whole other
1203
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:44.119
experience later on after my tour in the MDF. So
1204
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.319
as far as that question, I honestly don't know what
1205
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:52.520
species we were cooperating with on Mars. That's what I
1206
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.600
don't really have the answer to, just because I wasn't
1207
01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.239
exposed to any of the etis that we would have
1208
01:13:57.279 --> 01:13:58.199
been cooperating with.
1209
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:01.560
Okay, and yeah, I'd like to get to some specific
1210
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:04.880
races that I have in mind a little later, But
1211
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:12.199
can you describe the landscape, the atmosphere, what it felt like,
1212
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.399
what the air was like on Mars.
1213
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:21.039
Well, the gravity is quite a bit lower, so you
1214
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:23.640
kind of bounce around a lot when you're trying to walk.
1215
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:26.359
And we were in a powered body armor, which is
1216
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:32.000
like a hydraulic exosuit essentially, so it learning how to
1217
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.560
walk in that thing, and walking in the lower gravity
1218
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:39.960
is this whole other experience. The air is fairly thin.
1219
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.600
We were up north where the air is even thinner
1220
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.680
and colder, so you could pop up your helmet, but
1221
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:49.920
you couldn't really breathe for long period of time or
1222
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.760
get into a kerfuffle or a fight and be able
1223
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:56.239
to breathe heavily in the native atmosphere. But it was
1224
01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.039
oxygen oriented and you certainly could breathe in it. It
1225
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:05.399
had a smell typically of rust, because the iron oxide
1226
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:08.119
is everywhere, is just you know, covers the ground all
1227
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.640
over the place, and so you have this rusty smell
1228
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:14.159
in the air. But again that sense of the change
1229
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:19.960
in gravity. Being literally physically lighter, weighing less weight almost
1230
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:23.000
you know, less than half your normal body weight, while
1231
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:28.479
still having your same body mass and your same muskcular power,
1232
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:33.840
is a really strange sensation anyone who's ever had a
1233
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.199
I mean, I've had dreams like this, But maybe that's
1234
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.239
why anyone who's ever had dreams of, you know, being
1235
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:43.239
able to take really big steps and feeling like you're lighter,
1236
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.640
like maybe you could get lift off, but not quite.
1237
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:50.199
It's kind of like that. You really just feel it
1238
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:53.359
feels otherworldly. I mean, for lack of a better word,
1239
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:57.199
you just because you're just not at all feeling the
1240
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:01.119
same pull of gravity on your legs, your your stomach,
1241
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:06.640
your your blood vessels, and so everything just feels a little,
1242
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:10.840
a little weird, a little ephemeral, because there's this sense
1243
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.239
of lightness because of the lower gravity.
1244
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:18.439
Very interesting, now, were you were your bases underground or
1245
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:19.239
above ground?
1246
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:28.439
Absolutely underground. We're a station to the at least on
1247
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.359
our maps, the most northerly outpost that we had, and
1248
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:34.119
it was inside a mountain. There were pretty large doors
1249
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:37.039
that went into the motor pool, which was the sort
1250
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:39.600
of the initial landing bay that you know, we would
1251
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.600
go entered through the base into and everything else was
1252
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:43.800
deep into this mountain.
1253
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.199
And where exactly you said you were on the northern
1254
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:49.399
part of moors.
1255
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:53.279
Yeah, I. You know, I the maps that we looked at,
1256
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.960
I couldn't tell you exactly where it was. Like you know,
1257
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.039
if I pulled up a map of Mars, I couldn't
1258
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.079
tell you exactly where it was. I could tell you
1259
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:05.399
about the longitude and say it was kind of about here.
1260
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.840
So usually what I tell people is it's about It
1261
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:13.039
would be the equivalent of like being in Alaska. So
1262
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:15.920
we were pretty far north, but obviously not all the
1263
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.640
way to the equator, to the pole, but clearly not
1264
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:23.079
anywhere near the equator. Yet we weren't as far as
1265
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.439
the pole, nowhere near the equator. We were way farther north.
1266
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:30.319
It was cold. It would snow from time to time,
1267
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.880
which is another strange experience because of the gravity difference,
1268
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.319
it would the snow would fall very very very slowly,
1269
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:40.960
almost like in slow motion. It was a It was
1270
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.760
an eerie and yet very cool thing to observe, to
1271
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:45.000
watch the snowfall there.
1272
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:51.439
Can you describe your your weapons, your body armor, your gear.
1273
01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.560
What kind of weaponry and gear were you using?
1274
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.279
So the gear was basically a powered armor body of
1275
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:04.079
full pot sorry full body powered armor suit which was
1276
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:07.600
called the Archer series, which depending on what year was
1277
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:11.199
that we were there would depend on which number followed that.
1278
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:14.319
The first body armor that I stepped into was something
1279
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:19.239
called the Archer one one nine and the last one
1280
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:23.600
I believe was the Archer two four nine. It was
1281
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.520
a again a hydraulically powered suit, so that you had
1282
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.359
could jump farther, lift things stronger. I mean, we've already
1283
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.319
got half gravity, so you've already got super strength and
1284
01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:37.840
super jumping power without powered body armor on. Add hydraulically
1285
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:41.279
powered body armor and you can throw things farther and
1286
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:45.920
jump even farther. And the major weapon that we used
1287
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.359
was a gouse rifle or a railgun, so it was
1288
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:53.680
a magnetically propelled projectile out of a rifle that had
1289
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:57.800
a connection to a power source in the suit.
1290
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:03.000
For the most part, now we were Are we the
1291
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:07.319
invaders there? Are we indigenous?
1292
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.199
Yeah? We kind of are. Interestingly enough, the indigenous species
1293
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:18.880
don't necessarily consider us invaders. They consider us neighbors, uh,
1294
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:21.800
but neighbors that you have disagreements with, which is a
1295
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.359
little bit different than the attitude they would have from
1296
01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:28.760
an invading force, which I go into some detail into
1297
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:33.000
my book. There was a draconian invasion about nine years
1298
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:37.119
into my tour, and that just became a very different
1299
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:38.840
event as far as how we dealt with it, how
1300
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.880
the indigenous dealt with it. But essentially we are still
1301
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:45.800
more of an invader there than we are not. I mean,
1302
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:47.960
we showed up and said, yeah, we're just going to
1303
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.119
put in some colonies, we're going to build some bases,
1304
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:53.600
and we're gonna kick the crap out of anybody that's
1305
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:56.880
too close to our territory, which from what I again,
1306
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:00.600
people read my book when it's when out, which is
1307
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:04.319
going to be soon, we'll get the larger narrative there.
1308
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:07.560
But we didn't exactly have to be in conflict with
1309
01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:09.880
the indigenous species. It was pretty much just to keep
1310
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:16.920
testing military hardware very interesting, and so they weren't overtly hostile.
1311
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:19.640
They were defensive because you know, we've got guys on
1312
01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:23.479
the ground with armor and guns and you know, attacking
1313
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.640
anybody who came close to us. So that sort of
1314
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:30.800
starts the whole conflict, but they weren't outrightly hostile. Let's
1315
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.319
just say, now, what.
1316
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:35.680
Were these species? What were the indigenous species that you
1317
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:36.960
were encountering.
1318
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:42.159
An indigenous insectoid species and an indigenous reptoid species the
1319
01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:47.479
indigenous insectoids were. So there's a king of the hive,
1320
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:50.239
which is male, not female, so it's not a queen,
1321
01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:53.399
which is like the size of an elephant. And then
1322
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:57.319
the drones themselves are about like a giant ant that's
1323
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:00.640
about five and a half feet tall. But they typically
1324
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:04.119
didn't do a lot of the fighting themselves. They engineered
1325
01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:08.560
these other bugs. So there's these swarms of beetles anywhere
1326
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:11.720
from the size of a hedgehog to a medium sized
1327
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.479
dog that they would use essentially as their fighting forces,
1328
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:17.920
as well as a couple of bigger ones, like a
1329
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:24.600
batter eighteen or twenty foot long centipede with mandibles three
1330
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:25.279
feet wide.
1331
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:28.840
And you said, these beings look.
1332
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:32.039
Pretty terrifying fighting, yeah, fighting insects like that.
1333
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:35.520
You said, these being looks like like ants. Were they
1334
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:37.079
standing on Yeah?
1335
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:40.560
Yeah, they stand on two legs. They have six appendages,
1336
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.359
and they have two in the middle, two on the
1337
01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:44.640
bottom that they stand on and two on the top
1338
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:49.039
that typically operate as their main arms or hands, and
1339
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:51.960
the two in the middle could be either or so
1340
01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:55.640
if they needed extra support while walking, they could use
1341
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.479
the third or fourth limb to steady themselves, or they
1342
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:04.399
could use forearms to carry something or operate or build something.
1343
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:06.439
So the two in the middle could sort of be
1344
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.079
top or bottom depending on their need.
1345
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:12.520
Now, was this an intelligent species? Did they communicate?
1346
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:17.560
Very highly intelligent? Highly intelligent psionic species, meaning they have
1347
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:21.319
the ability to communicate telepathically directly if they choose to.
1348
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:29.760
Very very intelligent, super intelligent, just a little different than
1349
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:34.239
the way our mammalion intelligence works, but incredibly intelligent beings
1350
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:37.399
for sure. And the indigenous reptoids were also highly intelligent.
1351
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:39.359
We were led to believe they were sort of a
1352
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:43.640
savage reptile, but they were also again quite intelligent.
1353
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:46.760
And can you describe the reptoid species.
1354
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.720
Sure, the reptoid species tended to be anywhere from about
1355
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:52.600
five and a half feet tall to almost seven and
1356
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:57.119
a half feet tall, and you know, from the sort
1357
01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.479
of stocky, beefy side to the very large beef side.
1358
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:04.800
And they had a skin tones that were I would say,
1359
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.640
sort of these sandy colors, like a sandy brown, a
1360
01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:14.000
sandy red, sandy tan color. And then they had markings
1361
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.760
on the on their heads, on their backs, and on
1362
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:22.000
their arms that were If any people are familiar with
1363
01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:26.039
terrestrial lizards or terrestrial reptiles. If I say a rock lizard,
1364
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:28.439
that's probably the best kind of description I can give.
1365
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:36.039
So the color patterns tended to be in spots of black, yellow, red, brown, tan,
1366
01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.239
and sort of those sort of primary colors.
1367
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:45.439
Did they have sort of elongated snouts or more of
1368
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.159
a short.
1369
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:51.079
Snout actually a very short snout. The draconians have a
1370
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:54.279
very long snout with more like a crocodile or an alligator.
1371
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:59.079
The indigenous reptoids on Mars have a short snout very
1372
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:01.720
close to their face, sticks out a couple of inches,
1373
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:03.119
but not much farther than that.
1374
01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:07.680
And the draconians were they were they much larger than
1375
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:09.399
the indigenous reptoids.
1376
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:13.960
Yes, yes, they well, not necessarily much larger. The big
1377
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.680
seven and a half footers are pretty big, but I
1378
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:19.800
would say the typical draconian was more like between six
1379
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:21.800
and eight feet.
1380
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.880
And those are the more of elongated snouts. And did
1381
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:25.760
they have wings?
1382
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.560
Some of them do, some of them don't. So it
1383
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.479
really depends on their I think some of their social
1384
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:36.640
class or social standing that has to do with how
1385
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:41.920
their genetic origins or their purpose on the battlefield.
1386
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.800
And you said the Draco kind of invaded a little
1387
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:47.439
later in your stay.
1388
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.960
Correct about nine years eight and a half, nine years
1389
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.159
into my tour, and from what I hear.
1390
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.840
From a lot of whistleblowers, did Draco tried to get
1391
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.399
their hands in a lot of things and possibly have
1392
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:02.319
a lot of control on what's happening on earth right now.
1393
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:07.399
Well, they used to have control on what was going
1394
01:25:07.439 --> 01:25:10.039
on here on earth, but that really started to be
1395
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:14.079
arrested from them about twenty years ago, and I would
1396
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:18.239
say between the last ten and twenty years most of
1397
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:22.199
that control was taken away, and within the last five
1398
01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:25.960
years they really have no real social political control at
1399
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:27.880
this time. I'm not saying that there are still a
1400
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:32.079
few lollygaggers around that we're still dealing with, but for
1401
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:35.680
the most part, they are a more of a nuisance
1402
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:37.239
than they are anything else at this point.
1403
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:40.800
So they wouldn't have anything to do with say the
1404
01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.600
Cabal that's you know, you know that everybody would see
1405
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:49.319
as the Illuminati or what you would you.
1406
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:53.520
Know, again, they used to be, but they wouldn't. I
1407
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.520
wouldn't say that they represent that force anymore now. What
1408
01:25:56.640 --> 01:25:59.520
happens though, in these power vacuums just because you know,
1409
01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:03.920
we limited the Draconian presence or threat, or for the
1410
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:06.359
most part, the majority of it doesn't mean that some
1411
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.720
other species took the opportunity to make a deal with
1412
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:15.079
the cabal and start working with them. So there's you know,
1413
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:18.640
we've always got somebody given us trouble that we have
1414
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:23.119
to deal with, and there there's always somebody willing to
1415
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:27.720
make a deal the Enoches for power, technology or some
1416
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:31.239
tactical advantage that they think is going to suit their needs.
1417
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.720
So that continues to be an issue. But again it's
1418
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:37.439
not with the Draconians. Now. I have been told by
1419
01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:41.600
some people who served in the Knackfoffen that the White
1420
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.760
DraCos do serve with some of their Schabenlanders and with
1421
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:50.000
the Knackfoffen. But the White DraCos are a faction of Draconians,
1422
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.680
so they are actually in a state of civil war
1423
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:55.800
like a number of species, the Zeta reticulans, for example,
1424
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.439
when we talk about them, there isn't just like one
1425
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:02.720
group of Zetas. There's five different groups and they divide
1426
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.239
themselves in sort of two sides that are in a
1427
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.720
state of civil war with each other. From what I understand,
1428
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.920
the white Draco's are also in a state of civil
1429
01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:15.199
war with their darker green cousins.
1430
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:15.880
Very interesting.
1431
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.479
I don't know enough about that to explain that much more.
1432
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:20.680
That's just what people who know a bit more about
1433
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:22.920
that have told me. I wish I knew more about that,
1434
01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:23.600
but I just don't.
1435
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:28.159
So getting back to your experience on Mars, now, I
1436
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.720
assume you've been through quite a few battles, is that right?
1437
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:35.840
Yeah, several thousand combat events.
1438
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:41.079
What was your first battle experience like? Were you terrified.
1439
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:47.439
At first? Yeah, but they have this drug cocktail that
1440
01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:52.800
is shot into your leg and a hypodermic pack that
1441
01:27:53.239 --> 01:28:00.439
essentially takes away your fear, elevates your aggression, and not
1442
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:04.760
having been acclimated to the drug cocktail, my first experience
1443
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:10.600
was essentially to you know, leap down the hill and
1444
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.720
scream and charge into battle and go rather ballistic as
1445
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:20.600
it were, because it's a powerful drug cocktail. It again
1446
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:25.119
elevates your aggression levels and reduces your fear experience, so
1447
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.800
you stop feeling afraid and you just feel like you
1448
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.279
just want to fight and attack and kill anything that's
1449
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:30.800
in front of you.
1450
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:37.479
What was your first battle with Was it with the reptoids.
1451
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:44.520
It was. It was with the indigenous reptoids. Correct, And were.
1452
01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:49.000
You ever severely injured or you know, have any trauma.
1453
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:53.640
Oh, I was severely injured a lot. So I've had
1454
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.439
you know, fingers, hands, arms, legs ripped off, blown off,
1455
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:02.319
bitten off, burned off, stabbed, you know, other parts of
1456
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:10.159
my body holes poked in them and ripped apart. Luckily,
1457
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.520
fortunate or unfortunately, depending on how you want to look
1458
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.359
at it. We had a very advanced medical technology which
1459
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:21.920
is essentially a holographic cellular regenerating bed that projects a
1460
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.720
high resolution hologram of your genetic profile onto your body,
1461
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:29.000
which tells the cells in your body to regrow to
1462
01:29:29.039 --> 01:29:32.960
their optimal state and or fools the nuclei of your
1463
01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:36.279
cells to grow back down to your fingertips, your toes
1464
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:39.439
if you've had limbs missing. So it has the ability
1465
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:42.520
to completely restore your physical body to one hundred percent.
1466
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:46.680
So we get injured from anything from a little injury
1467
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:51.399
or finger ripped off to you know, my right arm
1468
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:54.840
and my left arm and my left leg ripped off,
1469
01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:57.680
and my guts torn open and half my face torn
1470
01:29:57.720 --> 01:29:59.720
off and then put back together in a matter of hours.
1471
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:01.319
A day, depending on the severity of the injury.
1472
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:07.279
Now you weren't traumatized by any of that, horribly traumatized, horribly,
1473
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:08.399
horribly traumatized.
1474
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:10.560
I have said more than once that it was a
1475
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:12.880
twenty year tour duty and it was a twenty year
1476
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:18.560
healing process. I'm a lot better now, But if you
1477
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:22.640
knew me twenty years ago, I was a mess. I mean,
1478
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:26.439
my emotional I was a real piece of work, to
1479
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.960
be honest with you. So experienced a lot of depression, anxiety,
1480
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:36.119
post traumatic stress disorder symptoms, insomnia over the years, had
1481
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:40.720
sleep disorders for decades. I mean I spent decades not
1482
01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:43.640
being able to get a good night's sleep for years
1483
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.880
and years and years. But I seriously undertook the process
1484
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:49.399
of getting to my memories, and in that processes I
1485
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:54.239
would remember things, would re experience that trauma, and essentially
1486
01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:58.800
would have to do pretty deep healing work on those
1487
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:00.880
memories as I went through and one at a time,
1488
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:03.079
to get through that trauma just so I could get
1489
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:04.199
to the next set of memories.
1490
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:09.159
Now, do they have the technology to basically bring you
1491
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:12.000
back to life? And did you ever die?
1492
01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:17.680
Yes? So there's a sort of an interesting gray line
1493
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:23.760
there if there enough electrical activity in your brain to
1494
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:30.199
keep silver cord connected trieval or you are retrievable, and
1495
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:34.960
if you are that connection breaks, then you become unretrievable,
1496
01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:37.800
and then you actually die for real. But you can
1497
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:41.600
be damaged so badly that your consciousness leaves your body
1498
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:43.880
and goes into a near death experience and you essentially
1499
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:46.319
experience what you know you would experience if you die,
1500
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:50.399
which is a bit of a life review and an
1501
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:54.760
experience of communicating with guides or other dimensional beings that
1502
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:59.520
talk about your existence in your material life and whether
1503
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:01.920
you're ready to move on or whether you're done or
1504
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:04.279
And I would always say, no, I'm not done. I
1505
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:06.119
have to go back, and then they would say, well, okay,
1506
01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:08.079
then you know, go back the way you came in,
1507
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:10.359
and then I would end up back in my body
1508
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:13.680
at some point. But yes, I have experienced a quote
1509
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:16.640
unquote near death or death experienced a dozens of times.
1510
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:20.239
So they just, I guess, have your consciousness on hand.
1511
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.640
No, it just as long as there's a connection still
1512
01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:27.600
to your body, it will come back into your body,
1513
01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:29.760
or they can pull it back into your body. But
1514
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.560
if again that silver cord that connects us to our
1515
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:36.119
body is actually severed. Then it's like a pit with
1516
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:38.319
a string being cut, and you're just gone.
1517
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:43.000
Wow, very interesting. And now I understand you were actually
1518
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:45.199
a pilot for some spacecraft.
1519
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:49.159
At the end of my tour in the MDF, after
1520
01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:52.960
seventeen years, I was given a promotion, got to go
1521
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:55.800
to flight school, and then yeah, spent the end of
1522
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:58.079
my twenty year tour as a pilot of an airwing
1523
01:32:58.479 --> 01:32:59.840
on the EDFSS NOD.
1524
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:03.399
Now can you describe that ship.
1525
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:08.880
The Nautilus? Yes, yeah, it was probably I want to say,
1526
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.439
at least a mile long or almost a mile long.
1527
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.960
It's broken up into three sections. The front section is
1528
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.159
the command section, the middle section is the flight deck section,
1529
01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:21.279
and the rear section is the engineering section. Now, there
1530
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:24.600
was a door at the engineering section that said specifically
1531
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:27.000
do not enter, and since I was not an engineer,
1532
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.560
I was not allowed in the engineering section. So I
1533
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.279
can't tell you exactly how big it is or what
1534
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:34.399
was in there because I was never allowed in. I
1535
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.279
was allowed in the command section by escort, by senior officer,
1536
01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:42.439
you know, maybe a dozen times. But I spent almost
1537
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:46.279
my entire time in the flight deck section. And when
1538
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:48.960
you're looking at the ship from the outside from space,
1539
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:52.880
it looks really big. But again, without you know something
1540
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.319
to compare it to, I'm giving my best guestimate of
1541
01:33:56.319 --> 01:33:59.079
what I understand is the length of these vehicles and
1542
01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:02.279
these ships to be about a mile or just short
1543
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:03.039
of a mile long.
1544
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.680
And what were the controls like? Was it as similar
1545
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:09.880
to anything we have here on earth? Was it completely different?
1546
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:13.479
I was never allowed on the flight deck, I mean
1547
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:16.760
on the actual the bridge, I'm sorry, the bridge of
1548
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:20.119
the command section, so I would not know how that
1549
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:25.399
ship has actually flown. The control mechanisms for the planes
1550
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:27.800
that we flew, which are not planes at all, but
1551
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:33.159
we call them planes, which are essentially a electrogravitic magnetic
1552
01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:36.760
gravitic propelled vehicle that's shaped kind of like a cone
1553
01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:40.439
that's pointing in the front and sort of roundish and
1554
01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:42.960
flat in the back with a kind of a flat bottom.
1555
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:47.760
Those controls were a sphere in front of us where
1556
01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:51.079
the stick would be with hand imprints in them, so
1557
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:53.119
your hands left the right hand would fit into the
1558
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.840
indentations in the sphere and you would spin, tilt, and
1559
01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.960
swirl the sphere. And then there were buttons at your
1560
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:05.800
fingertips that you use to control the mechanisms of the vehicle,
1561
01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:09.560
as well as a slider in the seat. The seat
1562
01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.680
also has a slider, so when you slipped your hips
1563
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:16.640
left and right, it would sort of quickly strafe the
1564
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:21.239
vehicle side to side. Did you ever encounter very nimble
1565
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:23.800
I just want to point out the very nimble vehicle
1566
01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.840
that control mechanism gives you a lot of agility.
1567
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:32.000
Very interesting. Now, did you encounter any biological vehicles or
1568
01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:34.720
maybe artificially intelligent.
1569
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.239
Not in my experience, not what we flew, But I
1570
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:43.880
did talk to enough people about other ships that were
1571
01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:48.119
in the fleet that had more complicated artificial intelligence and
1572
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:53.239
or in some cases organic computing systems or organic life systems.
1573
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:57.800
Those always sounded really intriguing to me. But my understanding
1574
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.920
was there we're still sort of an experimental stage with
1575
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:04.840
those types of vehicles, or they weren't considered reliable enough
1576
01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:09.079
to mass manufacture for the fleet, so we were getting
1577
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.439
what was considered sort of the best vehicle that they
1578
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.359
could mass manufacture for everyone. But I had heard of
1579
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:19.760
a few vehicles that did use some very interesting, more
1580
01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:24.720
integrative mechanisms with a artificial intelligence or organic in some
1581
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:28.079
cases not a computer intelligence, but an actual organic intelligence
1582
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.039
that operated the vehicle or that you connected with to
1583
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:30.880
operate the vehicle.
1584
01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.319
Now, have you ever been to any other planets besides
1585
01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:36.479
Mars and the Moon?
1586
01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:41.159
Uh? Not that I would be a liberty to discuss
1587
01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:41.760
at this time.
1588
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.039
Very interesting, Okay, So did you ever get any kind
1589
01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:49.520
of breaks or vacations anything like that.
1590
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:53.119
On the Nautilus? Every once in a while we would
1591
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:56.359
pull into a station or a base and get to
1592
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.960
have a liberty essentially a liberty weekend, and could any
1593
01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.840
from one to three days where we could go off
1594
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:06.479
quote unquote you know, on shore or off you know too,
1595
01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:10.199
which is again in space. But and sometimes that would
1596
01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:17.600
be the equivalent of, for lack of a better word, bars, restaurants,
1597
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:26.159
some sort of what I would say, you know, pg.
1598
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.600
Thirteen level entertainment. I heard some other senior officers talking
1599
01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:33.279
about some more r rated entertainment that we didn't get
1600
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:35.520
to go to. But we did occasionally get to go
1601
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:39.640
to a bar and drink, so you know, that was
1602
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:42.079
usually we felt like that was reward enough if we
1603
01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:43.920
could just go get hammered for a couple of days.
1604
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:45.399
Was this bar on Mars.
1605
01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:52.600
No, these were facilities at different stations or bases around
1606
01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:53.399
the Solar System.
1607
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:57.840
Very interesting, now, did they serve, you know, regular alcohol
1608
01:37:57.920 --> 01:37:59.760
or did you have any kind of strange space?
1609
01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:06.600
I was told that there were facilities that were mixed,
1610
01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:10.359
meaning that they had both human personnel, terrestrial personnel and
1611
01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:13.640
extraterrestrial personnel. But we weren't allowed in those places, so
1612
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:15.800
we had to go to sort of the human only bars.
1613
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.239
So it was all stuff that you know, you're used
1614
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:23.159
to drinking here, so beer, wine and you know, whiskey, tequila, gin, vodka,
1615
01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:26.680
you know, the regular poisons.
1616
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:31.880
How many extraterrestrial species have you personally encountered?
1617
01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:38.439
Well, since as part of my duties when I was
1618
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:43.319
aboard the Nautilus was to occasionally accompany ambassadoril Core to
1619
01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:46.600
these away missions to the Intergalactic space Station that orbits
1620
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.079
around Jupiter, which is quite large. It's about it again,
1621
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:53.119
it's probably about a mile in diameter. The Florida ceiling,
1622
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:56.880
it's about eighty feet with windows that go three hundred
1623
01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:58.960
and six degrees all the way around, and it's a
1624
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:05.279
massive of meeting room for both ourselves and other species
1625
01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:08.760
having treaty and contract negotiations for the most part, and
1626
01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:13.520
that room was almost always pretty full. So on any
1627
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:17.319
given visit to that station, we would encounter the species
1628
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:20.039
that we were there to talk to directly, and then
1629
01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:24.119
within you know, ten thirty feet could be another dozen
1630
01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:28.039
or two dozen species or more that were close enough
1631
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:30.880
five for me to look at, stare at, look at,
1632
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:34.000
you know, observe kind of staring around the room, but
1633
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:36.840
not necessarily interact with to know much more about them
1634
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.600
other than what they looked like. So it was I've
1635
01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:45.000
encountered dozens and dozens of species on those missions. I
1636
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:46.880
don't even know where I would begin to calculate the
1637
01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:51.119
actual number, given the size of that room easily. In fact,
1638
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:53.680
I'd say well over one hundred or two hundred species
1639
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:56.199
that I have seen personally witnessed on that station.
1640
01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:02.359
Now there's a lot of I guess, misinformation and confusion
1641
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:07.159
about what the Anunaki actually are. Have you ever encountered
1642
01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:09.479
anything that you would call Anunaki?
1643
01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:14.960
That's a good question. Having done a bit of my
1644
01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:19.239
historical research on that, there seems to be I mean,
1645
01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:22.560
I'm speculating just from the historical research that I've done
1646
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:24.319
and the people that I've talked to about it that
1647
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:28.359
when we talk about the ets that we were dealing
1648
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:31.640
with in Sumeria, it was not just one species. So
1649
01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:35.479
the onunaki might be one species, but we were probably
1650
01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:38.319
actually dealing with, you know, half a dozen or maybe
1651
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:41.920
up to a dozen different species at that time. But
1652
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:44.119
they were just all sort of referred to as quote
1653
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:47.880
unquote the gods, and depending on where they were and
1654
01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:51.680
what their description was would sort of indicate sort of
1655
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:55.119
what maybe what those species were. So, for instance, the
1656
01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:58.840
meso Americans have quot thecadal, who is obviously a reptile.
1657
01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.319
But you all so have the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptians
1658
01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:07.479
which had these large, gigantic deities that they made these
1659
01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:12.479
giant statutory of which and these temples with these doors
1660
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:15.000
that are you know, sixty seventy feet high so that
1661
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:18.279
they could walk through them. My understanding is that those
1662
01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:25.680
the sitting pities in Egypt that are you know, again
1663
01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:29.399
you know, more than feet tall. They'll be make them
1664
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:31.560
bigger than life, but they were actually that tall.
1665
01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:37.239
Now for all of this, do you have any type
1666
01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:41.399
of paperwork or files or anything that you can show
1667
01:41:42.079 --> 01:41:43.840
that that's physical proof of this.
1668
01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:48.680
I have an implant, a dog tag implant behind my
1669
01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:51.720
left ear that I have shown to a number of people,
1670
01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:54.520
and I have talked to a couple of surgeons about
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01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:57.359
getting removed and it should have some we should be
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01:41:57.399 --> 01:41:59.199
able to look at it under an electron microscope and
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01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.399
it should have some right on it. But that's that's
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01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:07.159
a pricey cost at this point to essentially rent out
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01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:08.680
the facility. I mean, I've talked to a couple of
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01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:11.399
surgeons and we can't just do it at their you know,
1677
01:42:11.399 --> 01:42:14.560
in their living room. So uh, the fee for what
1678
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:18.920
it would cost to rent out a day surgery of
1679
01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:24.520
facility is thousands of dollars. So when we've come up
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01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:26.439
with the money, I have every intention of getting it
1681
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:28.960
taken out so that I can get it looked at
1682
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:32.960
under an electron microscope. I am in the process of
1683
01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:37.079
filing paperwork to get my files to get that paperwork,
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01:42:37.479 --> 01:42:40.720
and I'm presumed, as Brigadier has instructed me, that once
1685
01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:43.000
we get this dog tag implant out, that I can
1686
01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:45.880
use that to some of the personnel that I'm attempting
1687
01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:49.239
to get that paperwork from as proof that you know,
1688
01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.680
I am who I am and was who I was
1689
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:53.640
and work for who I work for, I say I do.
1690
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.039
But at this point the answer to that, the short
1691
01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:58.800
answer is no, I just have this dog tag implant
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01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:00.600
behind my ear life one behind me. You can only
1693
01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:02.640
see the one behind the left, and I tend to
1694
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:04.640
get that one taken out. But no, I don't have
1695
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:06.640
any paperwork at this time, but we are in the
1696
01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:08.560
process of getting that paperwork.
1697
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.319
Now for the last few minutes, I'd like to get
1698
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:16.359
your take on what you think about Trump Space Force.
1699
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:19.319
Is this just kind of a way to announce that
1700
01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:22.640
we've always had a secret space program or what do
1701
01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:23.760
you think is going on there?
1702
01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.600
Well, it's certainly instead of just coming out and telling
1703
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:32.359
the truth that we've had a covert military space program
1704
01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:36.479
for decades, it allows a changing in control of a
1705
01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:40.840
different narrative. So it gives us the opportunity to say,
1706
01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:44.119
six months, twelve months, eighteen months down the road, Oh,
1707
01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:47.319
look at this new cool plant jet fighter that we
1708
01:43:47.479 --> 01:43:50.479
have that fly happens to also fly out in space.
1709
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:53.640
We just developed that a few years ago, when maybe
1710
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:56.840
we've had that for you know, fifty years. So it
1711
01:43:56.880 --> 01:44:01.079
does give us room to start talking about room to
1712
01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:05.239
start talking about technology. It gives us the ready opportunity
1713
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:09.640
if there's a hoax invasion to have a response to
1714
01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:12.279
that hoax invasion that we don't just have to pull
1715
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:14.399
out from underneath a rock. We can say, oh no, no,
1716
01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:16.960
we've had the Space Force now, we've been working on
1717
01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.000
that for a few months. We've got some tools, we've
1718
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:25.960
got some toys. We're not completely defenseless. So it enables
1719
01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:29.680
us to control the narrative in a different way and
1720
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:32.840
not have to admit everything that we know is true
1721
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:35.600
for the past seven decades is true. But it all
1722
01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:37.560
remains to be seen how that's going to be used,
1723
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:41.000
because it can be used any way. It could be
1724
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:45.800
used any number of ways, depending on who decides how
1725
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:47.760
it's going to be used. So we're just gonna have
1726
01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:49.800
to wait and see how that turns out. Let's just
1727
01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:51.720
cross our fingers and hope it's all for the best.
1728
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:56.199
Do you see disclosure anytime in the near future.
1729
01:44:58.079 --> 01:45:03.079
You know, we've been seeing developments occur that would suggest
1730
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:06.399
that it's been on the cusp of happening for years
1731
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.000
and that there just continues to be these delays in
1732
01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:13.119
the decision making process by those who have have to
1733
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:17.239
actually implement it. I would suggest that we're closer than ever,
1734
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:23.039
but because as I'm being told, we do not have
1735
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:25.359
what I would say is a large majority. We have
1736
01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:29.720
about a fifty five percent majority who agrees on that
1737
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:32.760
we have to have well everyone basically, like almost one
1738
01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:35.560
hundred percent of everybody agrees at the table that we
1739
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:38.920
have to have disclosure. The disagreement is on how we're
1740
01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:40.760
going to do that. So we've got about a fifty
1741
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:45.039
five percent of everybody who's participating agreeing on that right now,
1742
01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:47.239
but we need about closer to seventy five or eighty
1743
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:53.039
percent before we can actually do something. So I'd say
1744
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:56.279
we're closer than ever, but there's no way for me
1745
01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:58.760
to say how close or how soon that's actually going
1746
01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:01.520
to happen. I'd love to see it happen, you know,
1747
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:04.359
any day now, but that's not up to me, so
1748
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.239
fingers crossed. But anytime soon, but that could be anytime
1749
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:11.479
next year or in the next few years.
1750
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:14.279
Very good. Now you said you have you're going to
1751
01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:16.199
have a book coming out soon, Is that right?
1752
01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:25.960
I dom just basically at the final final stages of
1753
01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:30.159
having my proofreaders proofread the final version that I've done,
1754
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:34.640
and when we've made the last final spelling, grammar, punctuation corrections,
1755
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:37.439
because trolls are vicious when it comes to that. Apparently,
1756
01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.079
as other authors have told me, if you don't have
1757
01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:42.960
all your punctuation and grammar mistakes taken care of, trolls
1758
01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:45.319
will just rip you apart. Then I will hand it
1759
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:48.640
off to my publisher and we will get out the
1760
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:52.840
ebook and paper copy. And she's encouraged me to go
1761
01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:55.720
ahead and do the reading for my own audiobook, so
1762
01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:58.039
people who want to listen to the audiobook will be
1763
01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:00.000
able to hear it in my own voice.
1764
01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.039
Very good. Now, there's tons of questions I didn't get to,
1765
01:47:04.319 --> 01:47:07.479
so definitely have to have you back on And I
1766
01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:10.119
want to thank you so much for joining us tonight, Randy.
1767
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:11.880
That was a fascinating story.
1768
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:14.399
My pleasure. Thank you very much for having me. I
1769
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:19.000
really appreciate the opportunity to share the story with everybody.
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01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:21.760
We think it's important that people understand the truth of
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01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:24.399
where we are. We think it's important that people raise
1772
01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:27.279
their consciousness to the level of understanding that we are
1773
01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:30.039
not alone in the universe. And not only are we
1774
01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:32.079
not alone in the universe, we have a lot of
1775
01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:34.640
friends and neighbors that we are talking to and trading
1776
01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:39.159
bits and pieces with on a regular daily basis, so
1777
01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:42.239
they love our stuff. We make good stuff, apparently. So
1778
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.359
we've gone from a species that needs a bunch of
1779
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:49.199
help from all these extra trustrials to now we make
1780
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:51.880
better stuff than some of the stuff that they make.
1781
01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:57.239
So we're a major trader and manufacturer of a lot
1782
01:47:57.239 --> 01:47:59.880
of different high tech toys and tools, as well as
1783
01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:06.399
garments and clothing terrestrials. Fashion were apparently is very popular
1784
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:08.640
out there in the galaxy, and people buy a lot
1785
01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:11.920
of our clothes, and apparently they love our beer. We
1786
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.239
make great beer. So the two major exports that I'm
1787
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:18.600
aware of are beer and children's clothing, which I will
1788
01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:21.520
have to insert we don't think is for children. We
1789
01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:23.760
think it's for eats who are child size.
1790
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:29.840
Wow. Fascinating. Well ready, thanks again for joining us. We're
1791
01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:32.199
gonna definitely have to have you back, and you have.
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You can now stream the Forbidden documentary of Cult Louisiana
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free on two b TV. Louisiana is a magical place
1794
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and that was Cajun country.
1795
01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:08.840
You know, the food's good, the ladies is fine. There's
1796
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:11.119
a fun and roll like the old folks says, they.
1797
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:16.000
Love you so much. Incredible occult and forgotten history. There's
1798
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:19.039
a lot to the ancient history and era that we
1799
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:22.199
could be uncovering. Everybody is starting to like really quit
1800
01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:23.000
pieces together.
1801
01:49:24.239 --> 01:49:27.680
I've been writing books and doing research in the field
1802
01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:33.119
of Native American mounds and archaeology since the nineteen eighties.
1803
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:39.600
The LSU campus mounds were redated, which is absolutely bizarre.
1804
01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.680
This is all very, very strange, and it's just been
1805
01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:48.479
made more strange because all these old mounds are in Louisiana.
1806
01:49:48.880 --> 01:49:54.279
The Smithsonian dug into over two thousand mounds, finding seventeen
1807
01:49:55.399 --> 01:49:56.600
large skeletons.
1808
01:49:57.479 --> 01:50:02.520
They saw a very all humanoid being.
1809
01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:06.840
We just have a rich history of paranormal type stuff.
1810
01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:10.680
New Orleans is considered to be the most hated city
1811
01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:11.279
in the country.
1812
01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:15.279
The energy that's over the land and that energy it
1813
01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:16.680
seems to be stuck there.
1814
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:21.279
In twenty nineteen, I had an experience. It was all black,
1815
01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:26.840
had long black hair on it, a tall creature that
1816
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:31.720
had a dog's head. Legendary things fiction become reality.
1817
01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:34.359
I mean, it's fifteen. This dog man chased him through
1818
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.079
the woods. He only survived because of his dog saving
1819
01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:38.600
his life.
1820
01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:41.439
Y'all may kill me today, I said, but I promised
1821
01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:42.800
to this, I'm gonna kill at least two or three
1822
01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:43.720
young I said, you knew.
1823
01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:47.039
It for the plain when this thirty a six, it
1824
01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:49.000
was so close that he could see down the back
1825
01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:49.720
of its throat.
1826
01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:54.600
The vast swamps of Louisiana hold many secrets, from an
1827
01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:58.680
incredibly old, forgotten history to mythical creatures.
1828
01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:02.079
There are no answers. Yes, there's only more questions.
1829
01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:18.079
The nature of this experience seems to always be just
1830
01:51:18.199 --> 01:51:23.640
beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.
1831
01:51:24.279 --> 01:51:26.319
There's layers upon layers upon layers.
1832
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:28.760
Does add such an element of mystery to this place?
1833
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:29.880
Why are we here?
1834
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.439
We're getting closer to the truth now.
1835
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:38.279
There too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.
1836
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:43.560
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
1837
01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:47.960
Dreams involve interactions with real entities.
1838
01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:52.279
People are waking up, paralyzed their sensing or seeing something
1839
01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:56.920
very evil in the room. I have experienced sleep paralysis.
1840
01:51:57.800 --> 01:51:59.840
Shadow people start to appear.
1841
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.760
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
1842
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:11.079
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
1843
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:12.720
about these things.
1844
01:52:12.920 --> 01:52:17.359
A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
1845
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:20.399
our paranormal research would say, we'll have the ghost. Well
1846
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:22.800
what if it's all of those things and none of
1847
01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:26.880
those things, the entities, the intelligence that were just beyond
1848
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:27.800
our understanding.
1849
01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:30.399
There seems to be something a little extra that can
1850
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:34.000
take forms of anything. I can't believe what I've seen,
1851
01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:40.359
but it continues on a daily basis. We're definitely not alone. UFOs, UAPs,
1852
01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.079
portals opening up.
1853
01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.399
I really thought this supernatural stuff you kind of grow
1854
01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:48.560
up with that. Around here, you see a lot of
1855
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:53.359
strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.
1856
01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:58.520
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.
1857
01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:02.920
People they would saying would transform into bears, into wolves.
1858
01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:08.159
There's these vibe things out that occur, goals, UFOs, and
1859
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:10.640
all types of things coming from somewhere.
1860
01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.800
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seem to
1861
01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:19.239
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.
1862
01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:22.119
There is so much more that we just don't have
1863
01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:25.960
time for in this busy, loud and noisy life that
1864
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:29.720
we lead. All of this is planned, everything is synchronicity.
1865
01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:31.319
There's so much more out there.
1866
01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:33.760
We really are picking up such a small, small percentage
1867
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:35.199
of the electromagnetic spectrum.
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The world is an amazing place.
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It feels like we're God's in training.
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