One More Week | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Morning, it is Monday, October 26, 2026, and
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this is DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl
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Thomas. Jamarl is on vacation this week. Filling
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in is Pickaxe CEO, Jeff Dornick. He's the CEO
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of Pickaxe, which is a free speech social media
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platform you should all check out. The
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co-founder of the Freedom First Network, and
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he hosts the Jeff Dornick Show. And he's co-authored
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books, including Church and State and Social
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Injustice. And he focuses on free speech, politics,
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culture, faith, and challenging big tech censorship.
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Here's what we've got for you in the next two
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hours. Jeff will be co-hosting for the first
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hour. And then Robby West will be sitting into
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Jamarl's seat for the second hour. We go
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from 9 to 11, Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
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We go from 9 to 10 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
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Thanks so much for liking, following, and sharing
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the show and for your continued support, which
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we very much appreciate. Obviously, we are just
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eight days away from the U.S. midterm elections,
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but in truth, they've already begun because of
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early voting. So Democrats are heavy favorites
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in the odds markets, which currently have an
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85% to 95% chance of Democrats taking back
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the House of Representatives. They're projecting
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about 230 out of the 435 seats will go to
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the Democrats, a slight favorite for the Senate.
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I'm skeptical on that. Oddsmakers put it between
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55 and 75 percent. But anyway, there's a generic
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ballot lead of roughly 8 to 11 points on that,
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and we're going to get into the implications
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and how likely those predictions
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are to come to pass because certainly we've seen
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mistakes in the past. Campaigning took place
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at a very hot state in the midterm
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elections in Michigan and Port Huron at a
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rally for Republican Mike Rogers. Trump
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played the Islamophobia card, calling
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Abdul El-Sayed a jihadist, saying that he wanted
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Sharia law and said that Christmas would be banned
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if El-Sayed wins. I'm not really sure legally
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how that would work. In foreign elections, we
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have some news out of Brazil. Lula came back
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80 years old, won a fourth term with nearly 52%
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of the vote. But his opponent, Flavio Bolsonaro,
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who's the son of the former president of Brazil,
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is very upset about it and refusing to concede.
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And in Serbia, Aleksandar Vucic has conceded
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defeat. He's basically dominated Serbian politics
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since 1987. So this is really an earthquake in
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Serbian politics. And last, and probably kind
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of least, but worth talking about, is the Young
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Turks video claiming that three guys claim to
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have had sex for money with the late Senator
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Lindsey Graham. Good morning, Jeff. Thanks so
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much for filling in for Jamarl. Thanks for having
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me on. Again, I always love chatting with you.
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So, what do you, and by
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the way, oh, and if you have questions, please
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go ahead and pipe those in and producer Robby
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will go ahead and put them into the live chat
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here if you are watching live between 9 and 11
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on Monday. Okay, so, first of all, what
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do you make of the polls? Do you agree that,
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would you put money, if you're
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a betting man, would you put money on Democrats
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taking back the House and the Senate or just
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the House? Yeah, I would for
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sure, obviously, for sure would put money on
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the House. I'd probably hedge my bet a little
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bit on the Senate. But I think the
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weird and crazy thing about this election cycle,
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and I think you and I have talked about this
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before, is that it was like this thing
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is really going to come down
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to voter turnout, as it always does. But this
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time, it's really weird because I feel like,
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especially going on in the Republican Party and
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probably to a certain degree in the Democrats,
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I don't think as much. But in the Republican
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Party, there truly is a civil war going on. And
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there's more and more Republicans that are talking
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about sitting out, not voting, blackpilling
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the whole deal. And so when we're looking at
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it, it's like, OK, it could go either
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way. It just depends on how fired up Trump can
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get his base. And can that offset the black
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pillers in the America First wing of the crowd,
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they're like, well, enough's enough.
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War in Israel and all of these different things
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that are going on. And so I think that this one
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is going to be hard to predict, especially on
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a state-by-state basis. I think overall, I think
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Democrats are going to take the House,
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possibly the Senate. But it's going to be interesting
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to see which specific races either flip or change
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or surprise us, because there is that wildcard
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factor of the Republicans that normally
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vote and have voted traditionally for
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years and years and years. I'll be like, dude,
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enough's enough. I can't. Democrats
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Republicans are two sides of the same coin, so
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what's the point? So this is obviously
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a conundrum that people, that all
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Americans who vote for one of the two major
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parties always go through. The two-party
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drop. As much as I hate my own side
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for not coming through for me, I need to send
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a message to the other side who I hate even more.
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And obviously right now, the biggest problem
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that Republicans have, people say it's
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Donald Trump. I think the biggest problem that
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they have is that they're incumbents, right?
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And people are really angry at the
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incumbency. By the way, just parenthetically,
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there's an ad that's been floating around Michigan
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and now it's gone national. I'm sure you've seen
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it where it's a couple shopping for groceries.
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And at one point, the woman says, oh, no,
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no, we can't buy eggs. Put those back. Because
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remember, we have to send money. We have to send
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money to kill Palestinians, is how she puts it,
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not to Israel. And then the husband says,
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wait a minute, don't we already send them $4
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billion a year? And she's like, well, no, actually,
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we have to just send them another $26 billion.
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That ad is being characterized by Zionists as
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anti-Semitic. This morning that's the talking
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point all over the internet. I'm sure you've seen
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it and I'm like, okay, let's just say you hate
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the ad and just let's just say that you stipulate
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that aid to Israel is important for
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whatever reason, but how is it anti-Semitic? It's
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like that. It doesn't say we're
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sending money to Jews. It says we're sending money
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to the state of Israel. It would be no different
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than saying that if we're sending money
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to Somalia, like, oh, it's an anti-Black ad
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or it's like, no, it would just be
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maybe an anti-Somali ad that you could say.
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It just feels like that
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talking point has exhausted itself and that
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Zionists are out of arrows in their quiver
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at this point. Well, I think they are. I think
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the problem is that they are holding on with
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everything they can to whatever power they can
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hold on to for as long as they can. I think they
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also know that it's largely a generational thing
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as well. Polling numbers and I think the perfect example is that primary race of Thomas Massie versus Ed Gallrein
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where the older you were the more likely you
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were to vote for MAGA and the Zionists and the
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younger you were the more likely you were to
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vote for Massie and his wing of the Republican
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party and vote against Israel. And I think
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that what's happening is you have the older generation
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of the Republican Party that's holding on to
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whatever the power they can for way too long,
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and they think to a certain
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degree that as long as we can just discredit
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these guys as a bunch of racist and anti-Semitic
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people, then this younger crowd
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they're never going to take over. It's like you
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do realize how life works. At a certain point
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you die and then other people fill in the gap
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and they just, it's this revolving door kind
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of a thing. And it's very
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weird how the Zionist crowd doesn't understand
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that. And again, I'm one of those guys
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that I've been a lifelong Zionist myself. I've
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recently kind of walked away from that. I don't
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go full on to the other side, which is
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completely anti. To me, I'm just like,
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can we focus on America right now? That
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would be nice. I mean, we've got
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It shouldn't cost me $10 for a dozen eggs.
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I just filled up my car the other day. I think
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I paid $7.49 in gas out here in California.
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It's bonkers. I'm like, at a certain point, can
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we focus on these things, these things that you
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promised us in the 2024 election? Can we do that
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instead of fight this war on behalf of Israel
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and Benjamin Netanyahu and all that kind of stuff.
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And I think to bring it back to this ad, I think
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it's a phenomenal ad because it really hits home
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on the issue of, okay, who are we focused on?
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And the thing that I've been warning Republicans
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for a long time, and nobody listens to me because
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I'm just the crazy guy over here that,
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anti-Trump, whatever it is. But literally,
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you're just like... you go down the
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talking points. You look at the website of these
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Democrat candidates and what they're doing
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is they're hitting home on the pain points that
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Americans feel. Now me as a constitutional
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Christian conservative, I disagree with a lot
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of the conclusions and I disagree with the direction
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and the way that they want
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to fix it from these Democrats, but at the same
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time I don't think that the American people,
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the everyday person that doesn't pay attention
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to day-to-day politics really is looking at
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okay, what is the solution that you're offering?
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What they're looking at is do you feel my pain?
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Do you understand what the problem is? Oh, you're
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putting forth a solution. Great. Well, what's going
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on right now clearly isn't working. Let's try
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this guy over here. I think that
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for the day-to-day people that aren't
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looking at day-to-day politics and
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all that but they're just trying to get through
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life, they're looking at who actually feels my
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pain or who actually says that they feel my pain.
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And that's going to impact whether they turn
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out to vote or not and all that. And I think
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that's where this midterm is, I think, going
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to be a wild card. I mean, I'm really glad that
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you brought that up. Bill Clinton,
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of course, popularized the I feel
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your pain. And it was effective, obviously. People
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believed it. I was on the floor of the convention
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hall in 1992 when he gave that speech, and people
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all around me were crying. I mean, it was effective.
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I don't think that anyone feels that
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Barack Obama felt much of anything. Maureen Dowd
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famously called him Spock. And in 2016, Trump
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definitely gave you, and I've said this before
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and I'll say it again, that Trump's gift and
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the reason that he won with millions of dollars
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running against a campaign with billions of dollars
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was because he was able to look out the window
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of his car driving through my hometown of Dayton,
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Ohio, where he, I think, went more than anywhere
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else in that cycle. And he was able to think,
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look at those boarded houses and the
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closed down factories and the opioid crisis and
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think, man, it would suck to live here. I wouldn't
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want to live here. And then go to a rally and
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say, man, it sucks to live here, right? And then
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people are like, yeah. And it's the first time
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that people felt seen by a politician from any
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party for years. That was Trump's gift. And I
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mean, I don't want to ever say anything about
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him as a bad politician. I think he's one of the
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most gifted politicians of our time and he's
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revolutionized campaigning in a way that
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people, analysts have not yet. They're
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still using stump speeches. Like, no, Donald
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Trump killed the stump speech. That's done.
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And he's proven it. But now, is it the DC bubble?
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Is it the, I mean, in his second term he has
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I mean, he's basically telling people, I crap
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on your pain. Like, oh, a small price to pay,
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he said over the weekend. A little
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more in gas and groceries in order to make sure
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that Iran doesn't get nuclear weapons. You told
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us that you'd already made sure that Iran couldn't
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get nuclear weapons. You already told us that
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it was all nuclear dust, whatever that means.
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So, I mean, we don't really, the fearmongering
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doesn't work. We don't believe you. And so it's
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like, so you're basically telling us you don't
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care in terms of our
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pain, and there's literally nothing more politically
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suicidal than that, as Joe Biden learned too. He
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didn't. He was like, well, I don't, the
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economy is better than you idiots think. Like,
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now we'll tell you how the economy is. Yeah, well,
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now the thing that I've been
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told that I actually had Tom Rands,
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who has. He's actually friends with Bobby
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Kennedy and has a lot of connections with the
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White House and all that kind of stuff. And he
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was on my show last week. And he said
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that basically Susie Wiles and the Trump administration
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has taken away Trump's access to social media.
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So he can't actually get on to X like
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he used to in his first term to see what people
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are actually saying. So they've actually
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become his gatekeepers. And I know this for a
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fact, even going back to when Trump was
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campaigning, I was trying to get Kennedy to
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team up with Trump, and I went through
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Steve Bannon to get to the White House, and even
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Steve Bannon, right, who was close with
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Trump and ran his campaign and all that, he couldn't
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even get direct access to Donald Trump, and he
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had to go through somebody else who then squashed
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it when I actually went, actually when
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I tried to make this connection, and then immediately
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came out and bashed RFK Jr. and said he's more
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progressive than even Joe Biden and the
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most progressive people out there. You're
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just like, okay, so this is. They clearly, he's got
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gatekeepers. They're keeping him insulated because
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they know that if they let him loose and
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actually connect with the people, then guess
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what's going to happen is he's going to realize,
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oh, crap, I'm screwing all these guys. And
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so I think to a certain degree, he's in his own
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little bubble. I think that he's only
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being given the approved messages from people,
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and so I think to a certain degree he
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he's alienated, and that's not an excuse on his
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behalf because he allowed it to happen. He didn't
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have to say, yeah, what, I should probably
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allow you to take X and Truth Social directly
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off my phone. He could have said, yeah, what?
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No, I want to hear from the people. But instead,
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he's allowing somebody, and I would say Susie
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Wiles if not a few other people, to actually control
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that message. I also thought it was fascinating.
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Did you see Trump's second endorsement of
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Benjamin Netanyahu on Truth Social? It was, I
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was reading through it, and number one, it was
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so flipping long that I was reading it the other
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night and my wife looks over my shoulder
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and she's like, what is that? The print is so small
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because it was like a screenshot, and I'm like,
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she's like, that's a lot for one single post.
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But it was fat because he basically admitted
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in there, and I don't even think he realized it,
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but he admitted in there that they lied
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to us to get into the Iranian war. So in there,
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he literally said, we attacked Iran the first
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time, we obliterated their nuclear program, we
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made it to where they can't achieve nuclear weapons,
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and then now we're destroying their navy and
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their military and controlling all these things.
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And I'm like, but you told us the whole reason
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why we're at war right now is because they were
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two weeks away again from nuclear weapons. So
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you just admitted that we're now stuck in this
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stupid Iranian war over a lie. And that's basically
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that was my takeaway from his Benjamin Netanyahu
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second endorsement there. Yeah, it also, I agree
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with that. And I also thought it was so long-
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winded that it almost reminded me of an ISIS
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hostage video. Like, no, really,
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really, truly, I'm being well-treated
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by Benjamin Netanyahu. He's awesome. I love him
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so much. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess
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the thing is, if things are exactly that way
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and he's being gatekept by
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Susie Wiles or whoever else, that's on him. Right.
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I mean, and as in terms of for us as voters,
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we can't think. I mean, I remember reading
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histories of World War II where soldiers, German
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soldiers serving on the Eastern Front with inadequate
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winter gear were saying, ah, if
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the Fuhrer knew about this, he'd be really pissed.
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And we can't get into that mode,
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of sort of thinking, well, if Trump really
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knew what was going on, then he would
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fix it. Maybe, but that's sort of, that's not
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going to put any, make eggs more affordable
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or make gas not $7 a gallon. So, I mean, so,
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all right, so let's get back to the midterms.
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I mean, it seems like this is an enthusiasm gap.
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It's like a flip side of 2016 in a way because
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in 2016 you had people like me who had
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supported Bernie Sanders in the primaries
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and then were very unhappy with not only the
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fact that Hillary Clinton was the nominee but
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also with the way that she had treated Bernie
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Sanders and the progressive wing of the party
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and basically we don't need you, go to hell,
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drop dead, and we're not going to listen to you
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at all, and then by the way they get really mad
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at us when we don't vote for her. But between
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three and five million by some counts Bernie
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voters did not show up in the general election
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for the Democrats, and that was a key contributing
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factor to Trump's victory. I mean, are
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Republicans going to, I don't think Republicans
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are going to flip and vote Democratic, but are
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our Republican voters going to sit on their hands
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this week? Are they going to just
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sort of maybe think they have other things to
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do than vote just because they're just not
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that excited about either side? Yeah, well, the
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more that I talk to people in kind of the America
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First wing, which I find myself more in alignment,
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obviously, than the MAGA wing of the Republican
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Party, even though I feel like I'm kind of in
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the middle of everybody where I don't agree with
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anybody and I agree with everybody simultaneously,
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which is a very weird position to be in. But
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the more that I'm talking to people, it seems
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as if what they're going to be doing is most
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people that I've talked to are going to vote
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in the midterms, but they're not voting in the
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national election. They're going to vote on the
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state basis because that's where they actually
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care about. That's where they feel
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like that they can actually affect change. And
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so I think that we're going to see an increased
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number of Republicans specifically
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that are voting, but they're just refusing to
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vote for the National Republican Party, and they're
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voting for their local elections. And then you're
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just going to have people that just, they're
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just not. They're not even motivated to take
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the time off of work or the time to get down
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to the polling or to write it out and mail it
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in. And it just because I think they
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feel they feel betrayed because, and I think rightly
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so. And this is the thing that for
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me as a lifelong Republican, I've been
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trying to raise, and I get a lot of crap
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from a lot of the Republican leaders because
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of this. But I'm like, you have
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to address these issues. And this is the problem.
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You promised us no regime change wars, no forever
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wars. We're going to get out of the foreign interventionism.
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That was a huge part of the campaign that brought
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in the former Democrats like RFK Jr. and Tulsi
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Gabbard and all that kind of stuff and brought
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in that part of the big tent GOP in
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2024. That was the promise. And then what do
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you do? You go in and you basically do a regime
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change overnight in Venezuela. And then you go
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into Iran thinking you could do the same thing
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you did in Venezuela and Iran, which is the dumbest
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thing you'll possibly think of. And then they
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were floating the idea of doing this in Cuba.
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And they're still talking about doing this in
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Cuba now. And you're just like, this is not what
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you promised us. And then we were
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led to believe that Kennedy was going to get
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in there and pull the mRNA
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shots. That clearly hasn't happened. I'm told
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that he was basically given a sandbox and you
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can do whatever you want in this little sandbox,
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but you can't touch our mRNA. You can't touch
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this. You can't touch that. You can't touch that.
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And so he basically has Big Food is still running
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rampant. Exactly. Big Food, Big Ag. I mean, they're
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putting pesticides in the foods. They're approving
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all of these toxic things. And I'm like, Kennedy,
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come on, get with the program. And then you've
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got Kash Patel and Bongino and the
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FBI and the DOJ that they've clearly not drained
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the swamp like Kash Patel promised me he would
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when he was on my show before he became FBI director.
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They gaslight us repeatedly on Epstein,
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on even the JFK files. And then now with this Brian Cole Jr. case that's going
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on like that one makes me more livid than
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anything, seeing them arrest this autistic
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Black kid in order to cover up the
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Capitol Police officer who's the one who actually
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planted the bombs, who, oh yeah, it now works for
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the CIA. Shocker. And we're just sitting
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there and we're just like,
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guys, if you would just stop gaslighting us and
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acting as if you didn't make all these promises,
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then I think people could be like, yeah, you
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want things have changed and whatever it is, but
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you can't do a 180 and then pretend
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like you never made the promise and then be shocked
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that people are like, dude, what's going on?
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You promised us this and now you're doing that.
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And I think that that's where the Republicans
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have gotten themselves in trouble and they got
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their hand caught in the cookie jar. Yeah, no,
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I mean, yeah, I was also wanted to get your take.
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This is maybe more on from my side of the aisle,
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but there's sort of a phenomenon that we don't
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talk about a lot in political analysis about
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sort of the consent of the loser. Right.
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So, for example, in 1988, George H.W. Bush wins.
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I voted for Dukakis, but actually that's
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a lie. I probably voted for Jesse Jackson that
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year. But the point is that I wasn't
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really sad because George H.W. Bush won because
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I thought fundamentally he's not that bad. He's
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not that. He's a pretty reasonable guy. I mean,
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I don't think he's a fucking maniac. And then
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so. And so I think. You bring
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us back to 2024 when Trump was running again.
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I think a lot of Democrats, you'll note they
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didn't freak out. There was no giant anti-Trump
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protests when he was inaugurated the second time.
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And I don't think that was just exhaustion. I
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think people were like, you know what?
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He might end these wars. He might end the Gaza
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genocide. That wouldn't be entirely bad. I had
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Democratic friends and liberal friends who said,
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I like the Tulsi Gabbard thing. I like
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the RFK Jr. thing. So those people also, I think,
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are feeling really betrayed. Right? So there's
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kind of like now there's a counter-coalition,
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an anti, I want to send a message.
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I mean, granted these people are all going to
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be terribly disappointed after the Democrats
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win and sell them out the way that both parties
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always sell us out. Right? That will just, that's
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just an endless cycle which we should talk about.
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But yeah, so I mean, I think that Trump's
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idea the first time around was let's make things
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so vague that we'll be able to say that it means
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anything, like Make America Great Again. Well,
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what period are we talking about? How, what
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what's the focus? America First somehow
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doesn't seem as vague as Make America Great Again.
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America First is like, I'm not sure what
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America First is, but I know it doesn't mean H-
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1B visas. I know that. And I know it doesn't mean
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no job retraining for Americans. And I know it
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doesn't mean sending money overseas when people
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are hurting here at home. I know that. Right.
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I think in a way he boxed himself in a little
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bit with a little with specificity, which was
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to be expected also being, it's also
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a different deal when I think, remember
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Anthony Weiner. The New York voters forgave Anthony
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.740
Weiner the first time he screwed up. And they
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were like, OK, we'll let it go. You can stay
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in office. It's fine. And then he did it again.
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And New Yorkers were like, we gave you a pass. It's not happening twice. I feel
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like the bargain that the American
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electorate gave Donald Trump in 2024 was like,
00:24:43.930 --> 00:24:47.410
listen, we've forgiven January 6th. We are going
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to overlook all the litigation, some of which
00:24:50.450 --> 00:24:52.710
makes you look terrible. We're going to overlook
00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:55.750
some of the rhetoric. We're going to overlook
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everything. We know you. It's like your ex-wife
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taking you back after you've gone through the
00:25:02.089 --> 00:25:04.170
ugly divorce and you've both cheated on each
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other. It's okay. We're getting back together
00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:08.869
now. We're remarrying, right? It's like Liz Taylor
00:25:08.869 --> 00:25:11.890
and Richard Burton. We know each other. And it's
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like, okay, so now the American people, I think,
00:25:14.329 --> 00:25:16.230
are feeling double betrayed because it's like,
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We took you back despite everything. And you
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were highly problematic. We would have never
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taken anyone else back. And now look at what
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you did. Yeah. No, it's a very good point. And
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I think that Trump's interpretation
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of it and probably also the people around
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him and the die-hard MAGA people is
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that America's MAGA now, right? The Republican
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Party is MAGA now, and he won because of
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the MAGA vote, and you're like, no, he won because
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he had all these different individual constituencies
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that he catered to during the run, and
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.220
then he made all these different
00:25:54.220 --> 00:25:56.500
kinds of promises that he didn't keep. So basically
00:25:56.500 --> 00:25:59.559
it was kind of a fraudulent campaign when you
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:01.359
think about it because they campaign on things
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:03.750
that within a year he was already doing a complete
00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:06.670
180 on. And I think that the difference too
00:26:06.750 --> 00:26:10.589
is that in Trump 1.0, there was, obviously,
00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:15.990
because we lost the midterms in that one, which,
00:26:16.029 --> 00:26:18.470
again, most of the time the incumbency, they
00:26:18.470 --> 00:26:20.569
lose the midterms. They lose at least one or
00:26:20.569 --> 00:26:22.950
both of the chambers of Congress. And that's
00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:26.109
just, in my opinion, to be expected, right? But
00:26:26.109 --> 00:26:29.509
at that point, there was some discontention amongst
00:26:29.509 --> 00:26:31.849
the Republicans where it was like, he hasn't
00:26:31.849 --> 00:26:34.029
done this. He hasn't done that. But that was
00:26:34.029 --> 00:26:36.329
just something where he hasn't accomplished
00:26:36.430 --> 00:26:38.670
again those vague promises that he had made
00:26:38.670 --> 00:26:41.250
yet. This is different in that he's done a complete
00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:44.009
180. And I think that this is where
00:26:44.009 --> 00:26:46.009
a lot of people in, and you had
00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:48.130
mentioned earlier about some of the
00:26:48.130 --> 00:26:51.109
things he was saying about, if Democrats
00:26:51.109 --> 00:26:53.309
win, no more Christmas and no more of this. And
00:26:53.309 --> 00:26:54.750
he's, you know what? And I'm just sitting there
00:26:54.750 --> 00:26:56.829
and I'm like, OK, when you actually sit down
00:26:56.829 --> 00:26:58.309
and you think logically, and maybe correct me
00:26:58.309 --> 00:26:59.630
if I'm wrong because, Ted, you probably know
00:26:59.630 --> 00:27:02.200
this better than I do, right? But OK, so if the
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:05.200
Republicans lose, let's say they lose
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.960
one or both chambers of Congress. Let's say for sure we lose the House of Representatives.
00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:13.359
Let's say hypothetically
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.779
Republicans hold on to the Senate. OK, Democrats
00:27:16.779 --> 00:27:20.559
win Congress. What actually happens? Because
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:23.740
last I checked, you got to have legislation go
00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:25.720
through both chambers of Congress. You have to
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.819
have the president sign it into law. If he doesn't
00:27:27.819 --> 00:27:29.059
sign it into law, it goes back and then they
00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:30.660
have to override it with, I think it's like two-
00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:32.819
thirds vote and all. Like, when you actually sit
00:27:32.819 --> 00:27:34.960
down and think about it, nothing's gonna happen.
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.240
So now 2028 is an entirely different conversation.
00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:41.839
Like, that's a conversation about, okay,
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.259
now if you're gonna run with the rhetoric of
00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:45.680
like Democrats are gonna take away Christmas
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:50.240
and implement Sharia law, that would be the theoretical
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.769
scenario where they would do that. Not in the
00:27:52.769 --> 00:27:54.849
midterm because you still hold on to the White
00:27:54.849 --> 00:27:56.549
House. Let's say that they impeach Trump, kick
00:27:56.549 --> 00:27:57.809
him out, whatever it is. Well, guess what? You
00:27:57.809 --> 00:28:00.289
get J.D. Vance next. You kick out J.D. Vance.
00:28:00.289 --> 00:28:01.609
What happens? You have another Republican that's
00:28:01.609 --> 00:28:03.630
going to fill the plate. Like, you're not going
00:28:03.630 --> 00:28:06.369
to have the Democrats run rampant on this country
00:28:06.369 --> 00:28:09.650
and be able to implement laws arbitrarily that
00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:12.250
are taking away your right to celebrate
00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:14.609
Christmas. Like, that's just not going
00:28:14.609 --> 00:28:16.769
to happen. So when you're thinking about it from
00:28:16.769 --> 00:28:21.059
that perspective. And I'm very tempted to not
00:28:21.059 --> 00:28:23.319
vote, although I don't know if I can bring myself
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:25.539
to do it. But when you actually sit there and
00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:28.720
think about it, like, let's say me not voting,
00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:33.069
Democrats taking one or both chambers of Congress,
00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:36.089
all it's going to mean is that Trump's not going
00:28:36.089 --> 00:28:38.309
to accomplish things that he's trying to accomplish.
00:28:38.430 --> 00:28:40.589
And guess what? I disagree with what he's trying
00:28:40.589 --> 00:28:44.049
to accomplish. So technically speaking, the best
00:28:44.049 --> 00:28:46.150
thing to do would be to make it to where Republicans
00:28:46.150 --> 00:28:49.509
don't control the House and the Senate because
00:28:49.509 --> 00:28:51.710
I don't want Trump fast-tracking artificial
00:28:51.710 --> 00:28:54.130
intelligence in the way that he is. I don't want
00:28:54.130 --> 00:28:57.349
him continuing this war in Iran. I don't want
00:28:57.349 --> 00:29:00.329
him basically doing his actual, not his state
00:29:00.329 --> 00:29:02.490
of platform, but the platform that he's actually
00:29:02.490 --> 00:29:05.390
implementing, or I don't like it. So wouldn't the
00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:07.509
most effective thing to do basically mean to
00:29:07.509 --> 00:29:10.009
where you can't really get anything done, vote
00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:13.250
for some gridlock, right? But there's no good luck.
00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:16.009
Trump is ruling by executive order. What is Congress
00:29:16.009 --> 00:29:20.440
actually doing? Nothing. It's all executive order.
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.579
He's not going through the congressional system.
00:29:25.339 --> 00:29:29.059
There is something to that. I think there is
00:29:29.059 --> 00:29:32.059
something to that. I think the flip side is that
00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:35.140
because the Republicans are constantly running
00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:38.119
on the fact that the Democrats will just hold
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.140
up Trump and they're going to vote to impeach
00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:42.960
and just probably do impeachment after impeachment
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.690
after impeachment. That's fine. But again, that
00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:49.829
will control what's going on to a certain degree.
00:29:50.150 --> 00:29:52.490
But I agree with you, Robby, especially right
00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:56.490
now. He's running on executive order. But to
00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:57.970
a certain degree, there's only so much you can
00:29:57.970 --> 00:30:00.170
do on executive order. And on top of that, that
00:30:00.170 --> 00:30:02.490
can all be undone by the next president. And
00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:04.950
if he can't get legislation passed, then this
00:30:04.950 --> 00:30:06.970
is going to be just like a flash in the pan,
00:30:07.069 --> 00:30:12.029
in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, well, let's talk
00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:14.049
about the one real implication that will happen
00:30:14.049 --> 00:30:17.460
from the Democrats taking back the House. I'm
00:30:17.460 --> 00:30:20.000
going to buy into that and assume that can happen.
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.539
Obviously, the subpoenas are going to be flying
00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:25.440
fast and furious. There's going to be
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.859
the House Oversight Committee will no longer
00:30:27.859 --> 00:30:31.200
be under James Comer. There's going to be maybe
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.700
another, I would assume, another effort to impeach
00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:36.420
President Trump over something. Probably not
00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:38.079
emoluments, which is what it should have been
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.500
the first time and should be again. I mean, this
00:30:42.500 --> 00:30:45.730
is where Democrats kind of will. If they go that,
00:30:45.829 --> 00:30:49.009
they're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard
00:30:49.009 --> 00:30:52.529
place, right? I mean, if they don't, they kind
00:30:52.529 --> 00:30:56.049
of, the red meat of the base wants blood. They
00:30:56.049 --> 00:30:59.329
want these investigations. They want subpoenas.
00:30:59.450 --> 00:31:02.170
They want Trumpies dragged in front
00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:04.869
of the cameras and forced to testify
00:31:04.869 --> 00:31:08.130
over and over. But that's all a distraction from
00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:10.809
the needs and wants of the American people. And
00:31:10.809 --> 00:31:14.109
while they're doing that, they're not even
00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:16.190
thinking about like if there's something they
00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:18.990
can do about the price of eggs. They're not focused
00:31:18.990 --> 00:31:21.630
on anything like that. I mean, and I don't really
00:31:21.630 --> 00:31:23.809
believe that the Democratic Party can do both
00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:26.890
at the same time. They won't. They'll just be like, we're going after the Trumpies. And
00:31:28.809 --> 00:31:31.430
that'll just seem like, here we go
00:31:31.430 --> 00:31:34.049
again, and the voters will be in an ornery mood
00:31:34.049 --> 00:31:39.660
of a different flavor in two years.
00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:43.000
I mean, am I wrong? No, I think you're right.
00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:45.819
But both parties play this game of
00:31:46.410 --> 00:31:49.109
just pointing out the most evil, crazy, whatever
00:31:49.109 --> 00:31:51.670
about the other side. I mean, it's why, again,
00:31:51.789 --> 00:31:55.230
it's another reason why a lot of former Trump
00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:57.789
supporters are not voting for him is that he
00:31:57.789 --> 00:32:01.250
didn't go after the Democrat Party with the DOJ
00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:03.690
and all of that. Again, the Republican Party
00:32:03.690 --> 00:32:07.029
was out for blood. And I think a lot of it was
00:32:07.029 --> 00:32:10.750
somewhat justifiable in the sense of a lot of
00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:15.980
us have been directly impacted by the censorship
00:32:15.980 --> 00:32:19.000
regime of Joe Biden, not to say that Trump's
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.160
not implementing his own censorship regime as
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.619
well, which is actually happening.
00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:26.559
But when you think about
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.819
it, there's a lot of people that dealt
00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:31.319
with very real world scenario problems. For
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.819
example, a buddy of mine, Brandon Straka,
00:32:33.819 --> 00:32:36.940
the founder of the WalkAway movement,
00:32:36.940 --> 00:32:40.059
he had his door, you know, broken
00:32:40.059 --> 00:32:43.700
down by the FBI and arrested for his involvement
00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:46.259
in J6, where he literally stood on the opposite
00:32:46.259 --> 00:32:50.920
side of the Capitol building and didn't enter
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.400
the building, nothing along those lines. And
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.660
they said that he was trespassing because he
00:32:56.660 --> 00:32:59.099
was beyond the point of where the barriers were
00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:01.259
supposed to be. Not that the barriers were there,
00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:03.319
but that where the barriers were supposed to
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.160
be. And they said because he was where
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.920
that theoretical line was supposed to be, because
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.880
somebody else had moved the barriers, that they
00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:10.539
arrested him. So literally I
00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:12.380
know, I personally know people that have been
00:33:12.380 --> 00:33:15.099
targeted by the FBI because of who they
00:33:15.099 --> 00:33:18.339
were, found on technicalities and all. So
00:33:18.339 --> 00:33:21.539
from that standpoint, it's like there is a justifiable
00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:24.690
seek of vengeance or a revenge or
00:33:24.690 --> 00:33:26.809
something along those lines because everyday
00:33:26.809 --> 00:33:29.029
people have been caught up in this kind of political
00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:32.009
feud and weaponization of the government. But
00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:33.970
the problem is that at
00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:37.150
a certain point you can only go
00:33:37.150 --> 00:33:39.150
after your enemies so much before people like,
00:33:39.150 --> 00:33:42.930
but what about me? I'm like, I look
00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:45.250
at my inflation. Look at my
00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:49.480
real world issues that I'm dealing with. And then
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.579
guess what? Inflation's going crazy. But what's
00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:53.319
going to happen when AI is fully implemented
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:54.980
and everything's automated and I don't have a
00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:56.880
job anymore? Like, what's life going to be like
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.460
then? And nobody's talking about that because
00:33:58.460 --> 00:34:00.759
it's so much about the Democrats are evil
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.779
and we gotta, we're gonna lock them up, even though
00:34:02.779 --> 00:34:04.359
Trump said we're never gonna lock them up. And
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.239
you're just, it's such a weird fight because
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.960
nobody's actually focusing on the American people.
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.960
And the one thing I'll throw this
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.059
out there and then I'll throw it back to you,
00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:17.639
Ted, is that my thing is when I'm looking at President
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.619
Trump, I think that part of what's happening
00:34:20.619 --> 00:34:23.019
is the gatekeepers. Part of what's happening
00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:26.699
is, again, they took away his access
00:34:26.699 --> 00:34:28.619
to the American people from social and all that
00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:31.119
kind of stuff. But part of it is I think Trump's
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.760
true interpretation of America First is coming
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.800
through in the sense that he's looking at America
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.159
first as America the entity, America the country.
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.360
So how could be the world's biggest superpower?
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.219
How can we have the world's biggest economy and
00:34:45.219 --> 00:34:47.139
the biggest GDP and the biggest stock prices
00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:50.400
and this, that, and what he's doing is
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.000
he's making deals with other countries. He's making
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.179
deals with, he's making deals with big corporations.
00:34:56.179 --> 00:34:59.300
He's fast-tracking artificial intelligence because
00:34:59.300 --> 00:35:01.280
he wants to be the top dog in the AI race and
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.929
beat China and all that. But who's getting
00:35:03.929 --> 00:35:05.650
hurt? It's the American people. So he's putting
00:35:05.650 --> 00:35:08.909
America the entity first and not Americans first.
00:35:09.150 --> 00:35:11.570
And I think that that's the problem that the
00:35:11.570 --> 00:35:14.429
Republicans are facing right now is that I think
00:35:14.429 --> 00:35:18.070
the Trump base has an interpretation of America
00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:20.610
First, meaning he's putting the American people
00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:22.650
first because that's what he pitched us back
00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:26.269
in 2016. And Trump is running with putting America
00:35:26.269 --> 00:35:28.769
the country first and how do we beat everybody
00:35:28.769 --> 00:35:31.630
else in all of these stupid races? And it's like,
00:35:31.710 --> 00:35:35.130
OK, but at what cost? Like, OK, great. We win
00:35:35.130 --> 00:35:37.570
the race against China. OK, because
00:35:37.570 --> 00:35:39.710
we're going to fight against communism. But then
00:35:39.710 --> 00:35:42.170
it's literally going to usher in communism here.
00:35:42.329 --> 00:35:43.889
So really, what's the difference between us and
00:35:43.889 --> 00:35:46.389
China if we both are doing the exact same thing?
00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:49.309
Well, I mean, I'm glad you brought this up. And
00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:51.670
by the way, Robby, please tee up the ad that
00:35:51.670 --> 00:35:53.309
you brought up. Just keep it, get it ready, but
00:35:53.309 --> 00:35:57.519
don't play it yet. So. In my view,
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.760
that used to be the big distinguishing definition
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.719
between people would ask, what's the difference
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.500
between left-wing and right-wing politics? And
00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.239
I would say, well, in America, the left-wing
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.519
vision of the country is sort of a European French
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.719
style. Like, we are, what
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.699
really matters is people's individual rights
00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:17.739
as an individual, their rights and their privileges.
00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:20.690
Whether that be social programs or
00:36:20.690 --> 00:36:23.750
free speech or whatever. And in right-wing politics
00:36:23.750 --> 00:36:26.349
writ large is more about the glory of the state
00:36:26.349 --> 00:36:29.190
and sublimating individual rights. That's breaking
00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:32.809
down. That's no longer. I mean, we're seeing authoritarianism
00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:35.809
on the left, not just cancel culture,
00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:39.539
but we're also seeing. It's just like
00:36:39.539 --> 00:36:42.840
the, well, for example, the Democrats have become
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.400
the war party more than the Republicans. So we're
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.219
in the middle of this massive realignment. And
00:36:47.219 --> 00:36:50.659
in fact, my column this week, which I just wrote
00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:53.739
the first draft of yesterday, is about whether
00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:55.960
there's common ground between the populist left
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.960
and the populist right that can form actually
00:36:59.960 --> 00:37:03.079
a viable, not minor third party, but a
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.940
new major party. Is there common ground
00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:08.760
there? And it's something I want to talk
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.059
to you about. But let's watch this ad, Robby.
00:37:12.059 --> 00:37:14.619
This is sort of about, this sort of helps frame
00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:17.780
the issue. Robby, go ahead and play it. Why does
00:37:17.780 --> 00:37:20.960
Israel matter to America? Because we get practical
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.059
benefits. A strong Israel helps keep Americans
00:37:24.059 --> 00:37:27.159
safe. Israel shares intelligence that helps identify
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.400
threats before they reach us. It confronts dangers
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.059
on the front lines, so American troops are not
00:37:33.059 --> 00:37:35.780
drawn into a wider conflict. That cooperation
00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:38.920
helps keep war and terror threats far from our
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.280
shores. Fewer threats, less risk to Americans.
00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:48.389
A stronger Israel means a safer America. Wow.
00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:56.849
Okay. That's something. So it's like, yeah, I
00:37:56.849 --> 00:37:58.610
mean, it's like, but wait, right now we're in
00:37:58.610 --> 00:38:01.309
a war because of Israel. Osama bin
00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:03.630
Laden said that he attacked us on 9/11 in part
00:38:03.630 --> 00:38:06.550
because of Israel's occupation of the occupied
00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:10.050
territories. But it's amazing. Go ahead,
00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:12.050
Robby. Well, I have a question for both of y'all. I mean, y'all do politics for your living.
00:38:16.329 --> 00:38:19.010
Isn't that ad the very definition of foreign
00:38:19.010 --> 00:38:22.900
interference in American politics? I mean, isn't
00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:25.440
that exactly what that is? Isn't that a foreign
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.380
nation directly trying to influence how American
00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:32.719
voters vote? Sure. I mean, I think they're really
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.440
thinking about hacking voting machines and
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.260
what Russia supposedly did in 2016, but
00:38:38.260 --> 00:38:41.460
didn't. That's what people think. But
00:38:41.460 --> 00:38:44.119
you're right. It is absolutely foreign interference
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.739
in an American election. No question about it.
00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:51.159
But, I mean... So getting back to the populist
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.380
left, populist right, I mean, I was thinking
00:38:53.380 --> 00:38:57.380
about, what would it take for such an alliance
00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:00.760
to work? And very clearly, the populist left
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.400
would have to do something that would be kind
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:07.239
of not too hard, which is to sort of shed away
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.780
a lot of the walk away or back burner
00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:14.940
a lot of woke stuff, right? Trans
00:39:14.940 --> 00:39:17.539
athletes in girls' sports and stuff like that.
00:39:18.730 --> 00:39:22.070
Left-wing populists, socialists and left libertarians
00:39:22.070 --> 00:39:24.429
and communists don't care about that stuff much
00:39:24.429 --> 00:39:29.329
anyway. So that'd be a pretty easy gimme. I think
00:39:29.329 --> 00:39:32.070
where the challenge would be, and we'd all agree,
00:39:32.349 --> 00:39:35.409
okay, resources and attention should be focused
00:39:35.409 --> 00:39:38.989
on the American people first, control our borders.
00:39:39.469 --> 00:39:43.110
As I always say, if the unemployment rate is
00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:49.570
over zero, no H-1B visas. Then so that kind
00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:51.570
of thing we could all, I think, get on the same
00:39:51.570 --> 00:39:53.590
page there. I think where trouble would be like,
00:39:53.590 --> 00:39:55.570
okay, so we've now, we're no longer sending money
00:39:55.570 --> 00:39:58.510
to Ukraine or Israel or God knows where
00:39:58.510 --> 00:40:01.889
else, and we're now. So the question is, what happens
00:40:01.889 --> 00:40:05.070
to that money next? I think that's where a populist
00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:08.309
front has its challenges, right? Because the
00:40:08.309 --> 00:40:10.789
left would say, no, let's do some jobs retraining
00:40:10.789 --> 00:40:13.610
programs. Let's help poor people. Let's address
00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:17.329
the opioid crisis and help people get into rehab
00:40:17.329 --> 00:40:19.690
and stuff like that. And I think a lot of people
00:40:19.690 --> 00:40:23.469
on the right, please elucidate me, would probably
00:40:23.469 --> 00:40:26.010
say, well, we should pay down the deficit. We
00:40:26.010 --> 00:40:29.170
should become fiscal conservatives first. That's
00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:30.690
what we should be doing with the money instead.
00:40:30.969 --> 00:40:34.789
I mean, is that where the problem would be? Well,
00:40:34.829 --> 00:40:38.530
I think that number one, I
00:40:38.530 --> 00:40:42.710
think that kind of coalition, and I've often
00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:45.230
thought about this because there is, when
00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:46.750
you think about it, going back to Trump back
00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:49.389
in 2016, there was a lot of overlap between him
00:40:49.389 --> 00:40:50.849
and Bernie Sanders. They just came to different
00:40:50.849 --> 00:40:52.849
conclusions. They came to different applications
00:40:52.849 --> 00:40:54.550
of how do we fix the problem and all that kind
00:40:54.550 --> 00:40:59.000
of stuff. I think that there is a very plausible
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.780
thing. And I've spoken with a few different people
00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:04.539
in and around Tucker and Marjorie
00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:05.840
Taylor Greene. And that's one of the
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.519
things that they're actually discussing is doing,
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.699
getting a viable third party where they bring
00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:14.980
in the more the Bernie Sanders type Democrats
00:41:14.980 --> 00:41:17.980
that they can kind of coalesce
00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:21.369
around. I think that to me, I think
00:41:21.369 --> 00:41:23.949
that the scenario where it could potentially
00:41:23.949 --> 00:41:27.829
work, but I don't see it living long term, but
00:41:27.829 --> 00:41:29.590
for the short term I think it can actually be
00:41:29.590 --> 00:41:33.949
effective is that you have one party that agrees
00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:36.690
on the fundamental core issues, like
00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:39.309
okay, look, we all disagree on all these different
00:41:39.309 --> 00:41:41.429
things, but we agree we need to put America first.
00:41:41.429 --> 00:41:43.449
We need to secure our borders. We need to stop
00:41:43.449 --> 00:41:45.730
funding, not just Israel, but
00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:47.489
all these countries that we're sending billions
00:41:47.489 --> 00:41:49.969
and billions and billions of dollars to. No
00:41:49.969 --> 00:41:52.949
foreign interventionism. Actually
00:41:52.949 --> 00:41:55.489
put America first and put the American
00:41:55.489 --> 00:41:59.030
people first. I think if we focus on fixing
00:41:59.030 --> 00:42:01.909
the problems, I think that we could actually come
00:42:01.909 --> 00:42:04.789
together. The thing that I've thought
00:42:04.789 --> 00:42:08.679
about is that what if it was one party, but
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.780
two different wings. So for example,
00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:12.519
in the Republican Party, at one point you had
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.320
the Tea Party. Right. So it was a movement within
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.820
the Republican Party. What if you went into it
00:42:16.820 --> 00:42:18.880
with the understanding that almost like you're
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.679
going to have two caucuses within here, with
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.739
it within the same whatever third party is, you're
00:42:22.739 --> 00:42:24.800
going to have the third party that trends left
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.980
and the third party that trends right. And that
00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:28.400
you guys are going to duke it out. We're going
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.139
to agree on these fundamental things. We're going
00:42:30.139 --> 00:42:31.739
to fix this. We're going to do this. We're going
00:42:31.739 --> 00:42:33.800
to do this. And then we'll duke it out here.
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.320
And then maybe when it comes to actually voting
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.010
for legislation, one caucus will typically vote
00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:40.070
Republican, this caucus will typically vote Democrat,
00:42:40.070 --> 00:42:42.570
but when it comes to, we're going
00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:45.769
to agree on we're going to stop sending money
00:42:45.769 --> 00:42:47.170
to Israel, we're going to stop sending money to
00:42:47.170 --> 00:42:48.710
Ukraine, we're going to deal with this problem with China, we're going
00:42:50.550 --> 00:42:52.389
to deal with the borders, we're going to deal
00:42:52.389 --> 00:42:55.289
with AI and how it's going to take away everybody's
00:42:55.289 --> 00:42:57.469
jobs, we're going to deal with all that. I feel
00:42:57.469 --> 00:42:59.590
like there could be a very plausible, realistic
00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:02.510
scenario where if you commit to actually
00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:05.929
fixing those things, put aside all the rest of
00:43:05.929 --> 00:43:08.449
the differences, I think there could be a very
00:43:08.449 --> 00:43:10.409
real scenario where you could see a legitimate
00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:12.690
third party rise up. But I think you would have
00:43:12.690 --> 00:43:15.329
to go into it with the understanding that there
00:43:15.329 --> 00:43:18.289
are going to be two caucuses or two wings within
00:43:18.289 --> 00:43:22.170
that same party. And that's the pitch, is that
00:43:22.170 --> 00:43:24.929
we're not going to tell you you have to set aside
00:43:24.929 --> 00:43:27.769
everything permanently for this. Keep your identity.
00:43:27.889 --> 00:43:30.449
Keep your belief system. Keep all of that. We're
00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:33.130
just joining together to fix these things right
00:43:33.130 --> 00:43:36.260
here. We're just creating a new tent. We're just
00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:40.139
moving the parties into a new tent, right? Like,
00:43:40.139 --> 00:43:43.639
we're stealing MAGA from the Republicans and
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.079
we're stealing the Bernie bros from the Democrats,
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.000
and they come together under one tent. I mean,
00:43:49.019 --> 00:43:53.119
I'm being very, very facile and generalistic
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.920
here. But I mean, I think, I do see,
00:43:56.940 --> 00:43:58.920
I mean, this is kind of like the famous speech
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.619
that the leader of the Afghan resistance, Ahmed
00:44:01.619 --> 00:44:05.670
Shah Massoud, gave when he unified all the tribes
00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:08.409
of Afghanistan against the Soviets, and he toasted
00:44:08.409 --> 00:44:11.289
them all with apple tea, and he said, first we
00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:14.849
kill the Russians, then we kill each other. In
00:44:14.849 --> 00:44:17.590
other words, first things first, right? One thing
00:44:17.590 --> 00:44:19.210
that I think that you're missing
00:44:19.210 --> 00:44:22.349
about the populist right and populist left, they're
00:44:22.349 --> 00:44:24.250
not typical Republicans. Like, no, the Republicans
00:44:24.250 --> 00:44:26.030
always talk about paying out the deficit.
00:44:26.030 --> 00:44:29.110
The deficit always goes under them. What I'm
00:44:29.110 --> 00:44:32.250
about to say is probably represents maybe 90
00:44:32.250 --> 00:44:34.750
percent if not more of the America First right-
00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:37.989
wingers like me. They would actually side with
00:44:37.989 --> 00:44:41.449
the populist left on the priorities about what
00:44:41.449 --> 00:44:43.969
to do with the money from foreign aid. What could
00:44:43.969 --> 00:44:47.309
be a, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better
00:44:47.309 --> 00:44:50.070
way to pay off the national debt. They get all
00:44:50.070 --> 00:44:52.150
these people who are addicted to opioids running
00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:54.530
around San Francisco like zombies. They get them
00:44:54.530 --> 00:44:58.500
clean, get them jobs, and paying taxes, actually
00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:00.760
get them to be productive. That's how you pay
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.460
down the deficits, but it's through productivity.
00:45:03.750 --> 00:45:08.809
So you drop the drug dealers out of airplanes,
00:45:09.130 --> 00:45:13.949
Afghan style. You clean up the junkie, get them
00:45:13.949 --> 00:45:17.230
into the workforce. The tax revenue comes in,
00:45:17.289 --> 00:45:19.789
the problem is solved. And you're killing two birds
00:45:19.789 --> 00:45:21.030
with one stone. You're getting rid of the social
00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:25.409
pathogen and the fiscal suicide. Little breaking
00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:28.110
news, by the way, about AI-related. Anthropic
00:45:28.110 --> 00:45:31.690
just released its IPO financials. They're admitting
00:45:31.690 --> 00:45:34.530
to something that we did not know prior, that
00:45:34.530 --> 00:45:37.230
they currently have an $80 billion loss on their
00:45:37.230 --> 00:45:40.630
books as they go into their IPO. That's wild.
00:45:41.210 --> 00:45:44.510
Yeah. I mean, well, the thing, and I've got some
00:45:44.510 --> 00:45:46.650
friends that are like, do a lot of
00:45:46.650 --> 00:45:48.530
investing and all that kind of stuff.
00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:52.280
And they've been telling me for a long time that,
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.599
and I think Elon even just confirmed this the
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.679
other day on Twitter, that there's going to be
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.480
basically an AI bubble because there's so much
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.420
money that's being thrown into this thing. Not
00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:06.360
to say that AI is going to go away because I
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.400
think that there's no way that they're going
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.260
to let it go away because this is how they dominate
00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:13.380
all of us and rule the world and centralize power
00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:15.559
and all that kind of stuff. But I think that
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.389
when you think about it, it's not just a couple
00:46:18.389 --> 00:46:20.090
of companies that are investing a lot of money.
00:46:20.130 --> 00:46:22.809
It's every single industry, every single vertical
00:46:22.809 --> 00:46:26.809
in our economy is investing money into artificial
00:46:26.809 --> 00:46:29.150
intelligence development and integration. There's
00:46:29.150 --> 00:46:31.590
so much. Companies are going into debt.
00:46:31.789 --> 00:46:34.650
Take Rumble, for example. Rumble has
00:46:34.650 --> 00:46:38.949
been losing on their stocks for years. They've
00:46:38.949 --> 00:46:42.289
been in the red. So what do they do to keep the
00:46:42.289 --> 00:46:45.760
shareholders happy is to get into the AI game
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.300
and AI development and computation and data centers
00:46:48.300 --> 00:46:49.880
and all that. So then that way they can say,
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.159
look, keep your stocks, keep your investments
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.500
in Rumble because you're investing for the future.
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.199
Right. So, but if the entire industry is going
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.960
into debt and investing quote unquote for the
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.489
future, that's a bubble that is going to burst
00:47:04.489 --> 00:47:06.369
because there's not enough money to go around
00:47:06.369 --> 00:47:08.469
unless we're just going to print ourselves. And
00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:11.829
there's no present. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's
00:47:11.829 --> 00:47:14.010
kind of like, I mean, and I
00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:15.789
do think that is kind of like the problem maybe
00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:18.949
with government is that I don't even
00:47:18.949 --> 00:47:21.070
understand, for example, we're
00:47:21.070 --> 00:47:23.349
talking about, we all know the disruption that
00:47:23.349 --> 00:47:27.190
AI is causing already in the jobs market. We
00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:30.070
know, for example, whether it's, obviously
00:47:30.070 --> 00:47:32.610
I think it's caused by humans. It doesn't matter.
00:47:32.670 --> 00:47:35.170
We know climate change is happening and we know
00:47:35.170 --> 00:47:37.239
we're going to have to deal with it. Why don't
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.079
we have blue ribbon commissions anymore of very,
00:47:40.139 --> 00:47:42.679
very smart academics and other people who get
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.460
together and advise the government and testify
00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:47.380
before Congress? Like, okay, so AI is coming
00:47:47.380 --> 00:47:49.460
and here's some of the possible solutions we
00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:54.199
could do if we wanted to. I mean, that's the
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.179
part that's so frustrating to me. We are supposed
00:47:57.179 --> 00:48:00.239
to be a smart country and we literally, we can
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.679
see this train rolling towards us at one mile
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.719
an hour and we're just not getting out of the
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.179
way. Yeah. Well, but a lot of it is that, OK,
00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:09.920
who's going to pick these, quote unquote, experts in order to do
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.219
the testifying? It's going to be the ones that
00:48:13.219 --> 00:48:15.760
fit in with whatever the narrative is,
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.619
of whoever's in power. And
00:48:18.619 --> 00:48:20.599
I think that that's one of the
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.420
interesting things too is that because Trump
00:48:23.420 --> 00:48:26.900
has been fast-tracking AI, you've got the Democrats
00:48:26.900 --> 00:48:29.239
that are quickly becoming the anti-AI
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.940
crowd. And but it's funny because it's like,
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.019
well, but they were the ones that were pro Silicon
00:48:35.019 --> 00:48:36.860
Valley and all the tech development and all that kind of stuff. And it's
00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:40.559
like, again, it comes back to it's kind of two
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:42.340
sides of the same coin. And I think to a certain
00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:43.900
degree, it's probably controlled opposition of
00:48:43.900 --> 00:48:45.679
some kind because they just know it. This is
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.340
a good pitch to the people of like, we're fighting
00:48:48.340 --> 00:48:50.380
for you against the tyrannical Donald Trump that's
00:48:50.380 --> 00:48:51.900
centralizing all the power and taking away your
00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:55.039
power with AI and all that. All that to say is that it's like this. That's one of
00:48:58.099 --> 00:49:00.179
my biggest frustrations is exactly what you said
00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:03.679
is. Is like, AI is not going away. The question
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:07.239
that I've been posing is, what do we want America
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.519
to look like in the era of artificial intelligence?
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:11.820
And nobody wants to have that conversation. The
00:49:11.820 --> 00:49:14.320
only people having that conversation are Elon
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.619
Musk and Sam Altman and all that kind of stuff
00:49:16.619 --> 00:49:19.199
that like... Elon is pitching
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.760
his version of a communist utopia, which is basically
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.519
AI and robotics will do everything, will do nothing,
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.079
will be completely reliant upon them, and that
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:29.800
we could just go about and live a hedonistic
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.559
lifestyle and do nothing and have no purpose
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:33.460
and all that. And that's just a byproduct of
00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:35.820
development. Who really cares? And you're just
00:49:35.820 --> 00:49:38.039
like, but... I've got a four-year-
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.820
old son. That's not the America I
00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:41.539
want my four-year-old son to grow up in and
00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:43.900
become an adult in and live in this
00:49:43.900 --> 00:49:45.940
world where he has no purpose. Is that really
00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:48.519
what we're all fighting for, is take away all
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.679
of our purpose, take away all of our ability to
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.300
earn and be self-sufficient and all that? And
00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:55.400
it's like these are conversations we should be
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.300
having now before we get to the point of AI dominance.
00:50:00.030 --> 00:50:02.210
And not wait until we're there and like, oh,
00:50:02.210 --> 00:50:03.489
we should probably start having this conversation.
00:50:03.710 --> 00:50:06.150
Oh, our rights are already taken away. Sorry,
00:50:06.269 --> 00:50:07.849
guys. There's no point to having the conversation
00:50:07.849 --> 00:50:11.030
now. Right. Well, yeah. I mean, of course,
00:50:11.030 --> 00:50:14.389
look, I hear you about the Elon Musk vision
00:50:14.389 --> 00:50:17.329
of things. What's he call it? Not a, it's not
00:50:17.329 --> 00:50:19.949
a universal basic income. It's a very, it's a
00:50:19.949 --> 00:50:23.710
high basic income. Which Trump is now endorsing
00:50:23.710 --> 00:50:25.789
as well. Trump backed it. Like Elon literally
00:50:25.789 --> 00:50:27.710
said in front of Trump and Trump's like, yep,
00:50:27.750 --> 00:50:30.440
that's where we're going. I mean, and look, I
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.360
can see the problems with that, just as you described.
00:50:32.659 --> 00:50:35.340
But I can, the problem of,
00:50:35.340 --> 00:50:37.360
I can imagine doing nothing is going to end up
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.099
like a dystopian wasteland where we're all eating
00:50:40.099 --> 00:50:43.179
out of garbage cans and killing. And
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.800
there's no, people are starving to death. It's
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.760
I mean, that's where we're headed because we
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:49.960
don't have much of a social safety net, not enough
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:55.130
to cover this. So, OK, so let's talk a little
00:50:55.130 --> 00:50:59.849
bit about this Lindsey Graham thing. I'm curious
00:50:59.849 --> 00:51:01.869
as a person of the right what you think
00:51:01.869 --> 00:51:04.829
about all this. I mean, I'm a little torn on
00:51:04.829 --> 00:51:07.969
the one hand. I mean, I do always like
00:51:07.969 --> 00:51:12.849
to see BS exposed, and the idea that Lindsey Graham
00:51:12.849 --> 00:51:15.510
wasn't gay, as Marjorie Taylor Greene said, was
00:51:15.510 --> 00:51:17.670
always laughable, right? I mean, it was kind of
00:51:17.670 --> 00:51:20.809
like an open secret in Washington. It was well
00:51:20.809 --> 00:51:24.010
known. He presented as gay. It's like, if that guy
00:51:24.010 --> 00:51:26.469
wasn't gay, then there are no gay people. Like,
00:51:26.469 --> 00:51:29.070
that's a gay guy. And I know a gay guy when I
00:51:29.070 --> 00:51:31.510
see a gay guy. And I think a lot of particularly
00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:34.329
gay people and their allies, they looked at it
00:51:34.329 --> 00:51:36.369
and they're like, it's annoying that
00:51:36.369 --> 00:51:40.010
you have a guy who votes against gay LGBTQ legislation
00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:44.210
and talks crap about us, but he's one of us, and
00:51:44.210 --> 00:51:46.690
that should be exposed. And I'm sympathetic
00:51:46.690 --> 00:51:50.349
to that. On the other hand, it's kind of not
00:51:50.349 --> 00:51:52.389
it's nobody's business. Right. And he didn't
00:51:52.389 --> 00:51:54.849
really want it. And he didn't want to
00:51:54.849 --> 00:51:57.449
share his truth, assuming that was his truth.
00:51:57.530 --> 00:52:01.630
Now we have this video from Young Turks that
00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:04.550
shows three dudes who claim that basically they
00:52:04.550 --> 00:52:07.730
were gay prostitutes who basically were.
00:52:08.309 --> 00:52:13.579
Their customer was Lady Lindsay. And
00:52:13.579 --> 00:52:16.559
then I'm thinking, OK, but does this matter
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.119
in any way, shape or form? I mean, the politics
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.070
of it just seemed tawdry. And so I can argue
00:52:25.070 --> 00:52:28.030
this either way. I mean, should we care? Why
00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:30.969
do we care? Does this have any? And this is obviously
00:52:30.969 --> 00:52:33.550
being released a week and a half,
00:52:33.590 --> 00:52:37.650
a week before a midterm election where Lindsey
00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:41.349
Graham's sister is running for his old seat after
00:52:41.349 --> 00:52:43.929
he died. That's, you can't miss the
00:52:43.929 --> 00:52:47.230
timing. What do you think about this? Yeah,
00:52:47.269 --> 00:52:50.670
it's interesting because I'm torn
00:52:50.670 --> 00:52:53.929
on it because I see arguments on both
00:52:53.929 --> 00:52:56.329
sides of it. Right. So for example,
00:52:56.369 --> 00:52:58.849
a good buddy of mine, Chad Caton, he's
00:52:58.849 --> 00:53:01.889
from South Carolina. He was one of Lindsey's
00:53:01.889 --> 00:53:03.809
grams, toughest critics. And he
00:53:03.809 --> 00:53:06.210
referred to him as Lady G. And he's like,
00:53:06.230 --> 00:53:09.030
it was known in and around South
00:53:09.030 --> 00:53:12.449
Carolina. Like, that's who he was and all of that.
00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:15.150
Now. I don't necessarily know if people knew
00:53:15.150 --> 00:53:20.849
that he was sleeping with underage boys and hookers
00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:23.550
and all that. That's, again, I think a revelation
00:53:23.550 --> 00:53:26.369
to a certain degree. But I think the thing that
00:53:26.369 --> 00:53:30.010
people forget is that that's also Washington,
00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:34.650
D.C. Again, I've known people a long time in
00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:36.889
and around D.C. I've known people in and around
00:53:36.889 --> 00:53:41.090
Hollywood, all that kind of stuff. It's a known
00:53:41.090 --> 00:53:43.690
fact that the vast majority of the people that
00:53:43.690 --> 00:53:48.090
you see and idolize and look up to that are famous,
00:53:48.269 --> 00:53:52.210
they've got some skeletons in their closet. The
00:53:52.210 --> 00:53:57.230
fact that we had a congressional fund to basically
00:53:57.230 --> 00:53:59.949
pay off sexual harassment claims should be evidence
00:53:59.949 --> 00:54:06.269
of that. When you think about it, why do we need
00:54:06.269 --> 00:54:11.519
that? It's weird. So I think what I think when
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.099
it comes to this, for me, I'm not the biggest
00:54:14.099 --> 00:54:19.159
fan of weaponizing this, because to me, anytime
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.039
you weaponize this kind of a claim or an allegation
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.940
against the other, the quote unquote, the other
00:54:23.940 --> 00:54:26.940
party, the other guys, you're being hypocritical
00:54:26.940 --> 00:54:29.079
because your side is doing it too. Both sides
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.260
are doing the exact same thing that Lindsey is,
00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:33.519
that Lindsey Graham is doing, except maybe they're
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.519
not covering up the fact that they're gay. Right.
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.320
But that's also happening a lot. I think it's
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:40.079
also happening more than you think on the Republican
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:41.960
Party side. It is. But also the shenanigans that go on,
00:54:45.820 --> 00:54:48.280
I've been told by people that are
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.340
in and around Washington, D.C., the shenanigans
00:54:50.340 --> 00:54:53.400
that go on inside the congressional offices are
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.300
out of control and wild and crazy and
00:54:56.300 --> 00:54:59.099
sexual harassment all over the place and
00:54:59.099 --> 00:55:01.260
cover-ups and the whole deal. For me,
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.980
I say expose them all, but we shouldn't be
00:55:03.980 --> 00:55:06.739
doing it as just, okay, we're going to hold on
00:55:06.739 --> 00:55:09.460
to this until a week before the election and
00:55:09.460 --> 00:55:11.400
they're going to weaponize this against the other
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.519
side because why aren't you weaponizing it against
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.860
your side's doing it too? And I think
00:55:16.860 --> 00:55:18.820
that that's the problem with all of these
00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:20.940
hit pieces that we're seeing going flying all
00:55:20.940 --> 00:55:23.360
about is that you're trying to craft the narrative
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.400
that the other side is evil, that the other side
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.079
are hypocrites. It's both parties. Both parties
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:29.820
are doing this. Both parties are sleeping with.
00:55:29.820 --> 00:55:32.960
There's a reason why prostitution is running
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.019
rampant in Washington, D.C. It's because it's Washington,
00:55:37.019 --> 00:55:39.960
D.C., and it's not just one party or the other. It's
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.519
all the parties. It's everybody in politics. I've
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.820
been around the political events. I've been around
00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:48.239
Republican leadership. When you get these guys away from the camera,
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.289
you go over to a bar, you have a drink or have
00:55:53.289 --> 00:55:55.289
dinner, whatever it is. A lot of these guys are
00:55:55.289 --> 00:55:56.750
some of the worst scum you can possibly imagine.
00:55:56.989 --> 00:56:00.250
They truly are. They are, and we've seen certain videos pop up of some
00:56:02.570 --> 00:56:04.550
of your favorite influencers
00:56:04.550 --> 00:56:07.710
or commentators or whatever it is. They're
00:56:07.710 --> 00:56:10.269
all just awful people. They truly
00:56:10.269 --> 00:56:13.429
are. And I'm like, these are the people that
00:56:13.429 --> 00:56:15.829
we elect. These are the people that we send our
00:56:15.829 --> 00:56:17.630
money to. These are the people that we, quote
00:56:17.630 --> 00:56:19.889
unquote, support. They're some of the worst people
00:56:19.889 --> 00:56:22.190
you can possibly imagine. And it's not just one
00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:24.190
party, it's both parties. They're all just awful
00:56:24.190 --> 00:56:27.650
human beings. Well, I remember having this argument
00:56:27.650 --> 00:56:30.530
over with Scott Stantis, who co-hosts the DMZ
00:56:30.530 --> 00:56:33.550
show with me. He's a conservative. And he, about
00:56:33.550 --> 00:56:36.730
Larry Craig, the wide stance guy from the Senator
00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:40.869
from Idaho in the St. Paul airport. And
00:56:40.869 --> 00:56:42.750
he said, well, why are they picking on
00:56:42.750 --> 00:56:44.889
him? I said, well, because he's a values, a family
00:56:44.889 --> 00:56:48.409
values conservative, right? If you're Ted Kennedy
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:50.639
and you're sleeping with everything that moves, he's not
00:56:52.980 --> 00:56:55.519
telling, he's not pontificating about
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.260
morality or anything. He never claimed to be
00:56:58.260 --> 00:57:01.159
a moral, particularly moral person. His only
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:03.340
promise is this is the way I'll vote,
00:57:03.340 --> 00:57:05.179
and one of the ways I'll vote
00:57:05.179 --> 00:57:09.059
is pro-gay rights. Larry Craig, there's a hypocrisy
00:57:09.059 --> 00:57:11.420
thing. I mean, there is. I mean, there's something
00:57:11.420 --> 00:57:14.639
to that, right? I mean, well, I think that
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.860
there is something
00:57:16.860 --> 00:57:21.239
to that. I think that the other side is that the
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.500
position, for example, the Young Turks,
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.579
and there's been a lot of things I've been agreeing
00:57:26.579 --> 00:57:29.599
with with Cenk as of late in a lot
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.539
of his criticisms of Trump and
00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:33.980
all that kind of stuff. But the fact that he's
00:57:33.980 --> 00:57:37.519
doing, that he's making, putting out this documentary,
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:41.059
exposing Lindsey Graham or whatever it is, it's
00:57:41.059 --> 00:57:46.050
look at how bad he is. And again, you're
00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:48.409
not looking at your side.
00:57:48.489 --> 00:57:50.530
It's almost it. And I think that
00:57:50.530 --> 00:57:53.210
the problem with this is that Lindsey Graham,
00:57:53.329 --> 00:57:55.369
again, he's a traditional Republican.
00:57:55.530 --> 00:57:58.409
He's a neocon, whatever it is. He's not
00:57:58.409 --> 00:58:01.349
an evangelical leader and a super family
00:58:01.349 --> 00:58:04.550
values. He'll still say family value stuff because
00:58:04.550 --> 00:58:06.650
he's Republican, but he's not the champion
00:58:06.650 --> 00:58:08.909
of the super family
00:58:08.909 --> 00:58:10.670
organization where you gotta be super Christian
00:58:10.670 --> 00:58:12.789
all the time and all of that kind of stuff. And
00:58:12.789 --> 00:58:15.230
so from that standpoint, it's like you're painting
00:58:15.230 --> 00:58:17.389
the Republican Party as the party of family values.
00:58:17.389 --> 00:58:20.230
And thus anybody who's a Republican Party now
00:58:20.349 --> 00:58:22.869
is a champion for those values. And
00:58:22.869 --> 00:58:24.710
so we need to take them down
00:58:24.710 --> 00:58:27.750
a peg. The problem that we have is like, okay,
00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:30.900
but who's really better? When
00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:33.000
you think about it, Lindsey Graham or somebody
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:35.679
on the left doing the exact same thing. I think
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.460
that that's the problem that I have. And this
00:58:37.460 --> 00:58:40.420
is where, for me, I'm like, politics is two sides
00:58:40.420 --> 00:58:42.659
of the same coin. Both parties are corrupt. Both
00:58:42.659 --> 00:58:46.719
parties are awful. And at a certain point, let's
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.539
just expose all the corruption. I want to expose
00:58:48.539 --> 00:58:50.400
it all. Let's take out the Republicans.
00:58:50.619 --> 00:58:52.699
Let's take out the Democrats. I'm sick of their
00:58:52.699 --> 00:58:55.059
corruption in the bureaucracies and the FBI and
00:58:55.059 --> 00:58:57.780
the DOJ. And I could just go down the laundry
00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:00.440
list of all the horrible things that are going
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.440
on out there. But I did find it interesting though
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.119
that one, I forget, was
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.099
it Tyler or something or other from Turning Point
00:59:08.099 --> 00:59:11.900
USA? Somebody shared the
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.079
documentary and was like, Lindsey
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:15.820
Graham was sleeping with underage
00:59:15.820 --> 00:59:18.699
boys and this and that and hookers and whatever.
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.400
And he shared it from, and this is one
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.300
of the, it's like the spokesperson of Turning
00:59:23.300 --> 00:59:26.059
Point USA. And they're like, oh, we
00:59:26.059 --> 00:59:27.639
all knew this. This isn't a big deal. And I'm
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.230
like, so you knew that he was sleeping with underage
00:59:30.230 --> 00:59:31.789
boys and hookers. And you're not going to be
00:59:31.789 --> 00:59:33.650
like, somebody should probably call the cops
00:59:33.650 --> 00:59:36.349
on this guy. Like, nobody was like, that's
00:59:36.349 --> 00:59:38.469
my thing is like, I think that's it. Yeah. That's
00:59:38.469 --> 00:59:41.650
very illegal and very wrong. Very. And so for
00:59:41.650 --> 00:59:44.070
me, I'm looking at this like, okay, we all had
00:59:44.070 --> 00:59:47.269
a hunch and we all knew that Lindsey Graham was
00:59:47.269 --> 00:59:50.650
secretly closeted. Like, that's couldn't prove
00:59:50.650 --> 00:59:53.769
anything. Right. Right. But don't share
00:59:53.769 --> 00:59:55.929
the video that's talking about hookers and
00:59:55.929 --> 00:59:58.960
underage boys and then be like, yeah,
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:00.760
we all knew this kind of a thing was happening.
01:00:00.820 --> 01:00:02.960
This isn't a shocker. It's like this should be
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.800
a shocker or else why didn't you call the cops?
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:07.780
You know what I mean? Well, no, I mean, I do
01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:10.159
know what you mean. I feel like that is a huge
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:12.539
thing. Right. Like, you talk about
01:00:12.539 --> 01:00:14.320
all the people going out in D.C. for drinks
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:17.599
and hitting the bar and behaving badly. And that
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.019
is definitely a bipartisan thing. And
01:00:21.019 --> 01:00:23.360
I mean, I always kind of wonder, it's like in England whenever you find an MP
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.159
hanging from the ceiling of a dungeon with a
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:30.619
ball gag in his mouth, it's usually a Tory,
01:00:30.619 --> 01:00:33.400
not a Labor Party person. And it's like D.C.'s
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.820
a very buttoned-up place even for Democrats, right?
01:00:35.820 --> 01:00:38.400
They're uptight. They dress like
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.619
it's the place where
01:00:40.619 --> 01:00:43.639
Laura Ashley never went away. It's
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.219
just, it's seemingly, and people like
01:00:46.219 --> 01:00:49.320
that tend to be repressed. People tend to have
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.829
dirty secrets. Right. I think if Lindsey Graham
01:00:52.829 --> 01:00:55.190
had been a liberal Democrat, he could have lived
01:00:55.190 --> 01:00:57.150
as an out gay
01:00:57.150 --> 01:00:59.670
man and it would have been fine and nothing would
01:00:59.670 --> 01:01:02.650
have happened and whatever. We're at the end
01:01:02.650 --> 01:01:05.710
of the hour, so we got you for that
01:01:05.710 --> 01:01:08.170
hour and really appreciate it, and please come
01:01:08.170 --> 01:01:10.610
back soon. Oh yeah, definitely would love to. Again,
01:01:10.610 --> 01:01:12.610
I always enjoy chatting with you and talking
01:01:12.610 --> 01:01:14.630
and all that kind of stuff, and especially
01:01:14.630 --> 01:01:16.750
a lot of these conversations are just, it's
01:01:16.750 --> 01:01:19.610
fascinating because I feel like it's
01:01:19.610 --> 01:01:22.139
nice to actually have conversations that aren't
01:01:22.139 --> 01:01:25.599
just two-party politics all the time. It's just
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:26.940
like, what are the issues? Let's deal with them.
01:01:27.340 --> 01:01:30.360
Both parties do suck on that part. We're definitely
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.739
in full agreement about that. Thanks a lot, Jeff.
01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:34.679
Really appreciate you. Thank you. I appreciate
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:42.889
it. Okay. And that was Jeff Dornick, CEO of Pickaxe.
01:01:43.190 --> 01:01:45.849
Jeff, if you're just joining the show, Jamarl
01:01:45.849 --> 01:01:48.849
is out this week. I'm not really sure what day.
01:01:48.949 --> 01:01:50.630
Robby, what day is he coming back? Is he back
01:01:50.630 --> 01:01:55.380
Friday? I have no idea. His schedule is definitely
01:01:55.380 --> 01:01:59.099
open for interpretation. So it could be Friday.
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.440
It could be next Monday. It could be the, I have
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:06.070
no idea. All right. Well, and one thing that
01:02:06.070 --> 01:02:09.389
the chat over on Telegram, I don't know where,
01:02:09.409 --> 01:02:11.630
I don't know which chats is able to see, but
01:02:11.630 --> 01:02:14.230
much of them are just spinning. So a lot of the
01:02:14.230 --> 01:02:15.750
questions I've been submitting, I don't think
01:02:15.750 --> 01:02:17.610
you can actually see them. So whenever you're
01:02:17.610 --> 01:02:19.030
ready, let me know. And I'll start reading the
01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:21.519
questions off to you. Oh, okay. They're spinning.
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:23.920
What do you mean spinning? I'll just have the
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.260
spit, the spinning wheel of death. Like,
01:02:27.260 --> 01:02:30.139
Telegram is trying to upload them and but they're
01:02:30.139 --> 01:02:33.219
just okay. Yeah, there's been the internet
01:02:33.219 --> 01:02:36.539
the internet's been acting squirrelly for a better part of a week due to this
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.000
PHP problem, which I know you're familiar with.
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.460
So yeah, the whole global internet has been
01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:49.070
acting very strange, and if you've been noticing
01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:53.730
AI working slow or whatever, that might be why.
01:02:54.110 --> 01:02:55.949
Look at what happened with us on the Bible study
01:02:55.949 --> 01:02:59.469
on Friday. The atheist had to keep the needle
01:02:59.469 --> 01:03:01.909
moving on a Bible study podcast for a solid six
01:03:01.909 --> 01:03:05.329
or seven minutes, which is amazing. Yeah, well,
01:03:05.469 --> 01:03:09.409
I did the least bad I was capable of doing. I
01:03:09.409 --> 01:03:12.050
hope I wasn't too terrible. All right, if you're
01:03:12.050 --> 01:03:13.989
just joining us, this is the second hour of the
01:03:13.989 --> 01:03:18.539
program. Jamarl is out, probably through Thursday.
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:21.340
He had told us he wanted four days off, but when
01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:23.800
we get more guidance from Jamarl, we'll let you
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.599
know when he's coming back. I'm assuming Friday,
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.659
but it could be earlier, it could be later. And
01:03:29.659 --> 01:03:33.519
we just had Jeff Dornick, CEO of Pickaxe, fill
01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:37.000
in. Jeff might be back Wednesday to do the same
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.420
thing. So let us know about that, Robby. Robby
01:03:40.420 --> 01:03:44.000
is going to sit in the Jamarl seat for the second
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.820
hour. This is also the Q&A part of the show.
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01:04:17.289 --> 01:04:19.570
do you have any thoughts about the Lindsey Graham
01:04:19.570 --> 01:04:22.630
thing before we move on? I think that the fact
01:04:22.630 --> 01:04:25.329
that he was a sword swallower is a non sequitur.
01:04:25.449 --> 01:04:28.969
The fact is that he was a disgusting, warmongering,
01:04:28.969 --> 01:04:32.610
bloodthirsty goblin who is roasting in hell right
01:04:32.610 --> 01:04:35.829
now is outstanding. And I think that's something
01:04:35.829 --> 01:04:37.590
that the people on the left and the right can
01:04:37.590 --> 01:04:40.969
agree. Hell was created for people just like
01:04:40.969 --> 01:04:45.289
hell. I really hope times like this
01:04:45.289 --> 01:04:48.829
I really hope hell exists. Okay, it's real. All
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.800
right, let's have some. Oh, I think I see
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.840
all the questions coming up. Start slowly. Okay,
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.059
here we go. Success. They came up. All right, let's
01:04:58.059 --> 01:05:01.199
see what questions we have. All right.
01:05:03.230 --> 01:05:05.349
It's like the first one will be the one from
01:05:05.349 --> 01:05:08.110
Philip Blair about blood libel. Did you see that
01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:12.329
one? All right. I got you. Okay. I didn't see
01:05:12.329 --> 01:05:14.349
the grocery store ad, but I found that AIPAC ad
01:05:14.349 --> 01:05:17.369
that we played. And it takes a lot to really
01:05:17.369 --> 01:05:19.969
honestly make. No, I get pissed off about things.
01:05:20.030 --> 01:05:22.769
But as far as making me mad, it takes a lot for
01:05:22.769 --> 01:05:25.010
political ad to make me mad. That AIPAC ad pissed
01:05:25.010 --> 01:05:28.800
me off. Well, what pissed you off about it? Just
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.239
the gall. Why Israel matters to America? Why?
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:36.079
Why America needs this little pissant, racist,
01:05:36.340 --> 01:05:39.460
disgusting country on the eastern bank of the
01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:41.780
Mediterranean that contributes absolutely nothing.
01:05:42.019 --> 01:05:44.760
It's like it's a leech. It's hilarious. They
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.960
claim that they provide vital
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:51.030
intelligence. It's like. Be serious. We have
01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:54.829
330 million people. They don't even have 10 million
01:05:54.829 --> 01:05:57.650
people. I mean, seriously, this would be like
01:05:57.650 --> 01:06:01.510
why Liechtenstein matters to America. Without
01:06:01.510 --> 01:06:07.329
Liechtenstein, America could die. If that's true,
01:06:07.510 --> 01:06:13.119
we deserve to die. We're too weak to live. Listen,
01:06:13.219 --> 01:06:15.420
in fairness, Liechtenstein is the world's largest
01:06:15.420 --> 01:06:18.989
producer of false teeth. You've got to have that.
01:06:19.030 --> 01:06:21.489
At least they produce something of value. What
01:06:21.489 --> 01:06:24.829
exactly of value does Israel produce? Well, they
01:06:24.829 --> 01:06:27.769
used to be known for their tech sector, right?
01:06:27.929 --> 01:06:31.090
Like Waze was an Israeli company before Google
01:06:31.090 --> 01:06:36.659
bought it. But I mean, that's because these corporations
01:06:36.659 --> 01:06:39.019
are all multinational. People keep saying, well,
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:41.099
Google is an American company. No, it's not.
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:46.030
It's a multinational company. I don't even know
01:06:46.030 --> 01:06:48.409
what that even means anymore. So just because
01:06:48.409 --> 01:06:52.829
your corporate headquarters is in Seattle or
01:06:52.869 --> 01:06:54.750
in Tel Aviv doesn't mean that you're going to
01:06:54.750 --> 01:06:57.449
represent the interests of the place of which
01:06:57.449 --> 01:07:02.300
you're based in. Right, right. So let's catch
01:07:02.300 --> 01:07:05.739
up on the questions. Keep them coming. Philip
01:07:05.739 --> 01:07:09.000
Blair, average classroom size in Cuba is 8 to
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.239
10 students per one teacher. Average classroom
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.159
size in California is 24 to 27 students per one
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.650
teacher. Cubans don't want our overcrowded, broken
01:07:17.650 --> 01:07:22.769
schools. Plurry Paul, maybe someone will have
01:07:22.769 --> 01:07:25.510
some balls in this next batch of House reps.
01:07:25.769 --> 01:07:28.050
Don't always agree with Massey, but props to
01:07:28.050 --> 01:07:35.300
him for finding ways. Wus Kaddafi, America First
01:07:35.300 --> 01:07:39.139
is like America struggling compared to the rest
01:07:39.139 --> 01:07:41.639
of the world. America First is probably why most
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.960
of the world hates Americans. I don't think that's
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.940
true. I think if Americans focused more inward,
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:50.280
the rest of the world would like us better, actually.
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:53.559
Plurry Paul, no more Christmas would rock. Fuck
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.079
those corporations who depend upon it for their
01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:01.070
revenue. I actually agree with that, by the way.
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.980
Christmas is too commercialized. Yeah, I would
01:08:04.980 --> 01:08:09.360
think you would agree with that. Cameron Bryan,
01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.780
I was deceived and betrayed by Trump. Now I'm
01:08:12.780 --> 01:08:15.420
100% MAGA dissident and reading Marx, Lenin,
01:08:15.460 --> 01:08:18.420
Ho Chi Minh, and Mao. Don't forget Ted Rall.
01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:22.319
Let's see. Okay, question for me from Philip.
01:08:22.539 --> 01:08:25.020
How is it that different from Strom Thurmond
01:08:25.020 --> 01:08:27.279
being a segregationist while the mother of his
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:29.380
child is a Black woman? I think it's exactly
01:08:29.380 --> 01:08:32.529
the same thing. I mean, he, that was
01:08:32.529 --> 01:08:36.170
the hypocrisy. It's like if Strom Thurmond had,
01:08:36.170 --> 01:08:38.670
he had a mixed-race child with a Black
01:08:38.670 --> 01:08:43.369
woman, and if he had been not a virulent
01:08:43.369 --> 01:08:47.489
racist and segregationist in his public
01:08:47.489 --> 01:08:50.909
politics as opposed to in his private life, there
01:08:50.909 --> 01:08:52.949
would have been nothing there to report. Again,
01:08:52.949 --> 01:08:55.529
as with Lindsey Graham, it was an open secret,
01:08:55.529 --> 01:08:57.989
and official Washington, everyone knew and everyone
01:08:57.989 --> 01:09:00.920
covered up for Strom Thurmond. But I think it's
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.500
exactly the same. It's disgusting.
01:09:04.500 --> 01:09:10.109
Yeah, agreed. Juan Don, did you see Trump at a rally
01:09:10.109 --> 01:09:12.210
a few days ago boasting about the poverty rate
01:09:12.210 --> 01:09:14.449
for different groups of people? He said something
01:09:14.449 --> 01:09:16.850
like the numbers are the highest it's ever been.
01:09:16.850 --> 01:09:21.989
It's great. I did not see that, but that does not
01:09:21.989 --> 01:09:28.239
sound impossible. Okay, please, we need your
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And PhD Nick Rivera says, Strom was a racist,
01:10:27.300 --> 01:10:30.979
but he was a good father. Yeah, that's true.
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:35.319
Apparently he reportedly was a good father. Very
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:38.420
strange. It makes me wonder if he was
01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:42.340
even really, truly a racist in his real personal
01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:45.300
life. It was just a posture that he did for work.
01:10:45.899 --> 01:10:51.439
Well, I mean. Does it matter? What does the term
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:56.199
even mean? I mean, it's the word race. It's kind
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.319
of like anti-Semite and racist. Those two words
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.939
have been used so much that they've lost all
01:11:02.939 --> 01:11:05.600
meaning. It's kind of like whacking a pinata.
01:11:06.250 --> 01:11:11.210
It's overused. What the word racist means now
01:11:11.210 --> 01:11:12.670
probably didn't mean the same thing it meant
01:11:12.670 --> 01:11:15.170
when you were a kid, Ted. I mean, who the hell
01:11:15.170 --> 01:11:18.579
knows? Speaking of Ted, I've got some breaking
01:11:18.579 --> 01:11:21.180
news for y'all. In the Montana congressional
01:11:21.180 --> 01:11:26.420
race, there is a single vote that is being mailed
01:11:26.420 --> 01:11:29.720
out today. Ted Rall is now officially a candidate
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:38.050
for District 1 in Montana. In the extremely unlikely
01:11:38.050 --> 01:11:41.550
chance that I am to prevail and become a duly
01:11:41.550 --> 01:11:44.010
elected representative for the first district
01:11:44.010 --> 01:11:47.449
of the state of Montana. Would I be disqualified
01:11:47.449 --> 01:11:50.710
because of lack of residency? Probably, right?
01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:55.229
Who knows? I believe so. But that's okay because
01:11:55.229 --> 01:11:59.270
it seems unlikely. Although, hey, if
01:11:59.270 --> 01:12:04.550
the fix is in. Well, I mean, the odds are that
01:12:04.550 --> 01:12:08.409
You'll only get one vote. I would think so. What
01:12:08.409 --> 01:12:11.699
about Kizzy? I can get Kizzy to vote for you.
01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:16.029
Okay, there you go. Yeah, my votes
01:12:16.029 --> 01:12:18.670
just increased by 100 percent. Yeah, it did. No,
01:12:18.670 --> 01:12:21.510
unfortunately Thomas doesn't turn 18 until next
01:12:21.510 --> 01:12:24.050
year so he can't legally. Well, he registers
01:12:24.050 --> 01:12:29.229
a Democrat then vote. I guess there he goes. Right,
01:12:29.229 --> 01:12:32.510
is he still angry at me for, well,
01:12:32.510 --> 01:12:34.729
I don't know if he was angry at me just for telling
01:12:34.729 --> 01:12:37.970
him not to join the Marines. He's angry at
01:12:37.970 --> 01:12:40.819
both of us about that, but he'll get over it. Okay,
01:12:40.819 --> 01:12:43.609
well I'll tell them it's from love though. That's
01:12:43.609 --> 01:12:45.449
what I told him. I said the only reason that we
01:12:45.449 --> 01:12:46.949
even brought that up is because we both love
01:12:46.949 --> 01:12:49.659
him and we care about him. Yeah, that's exactly
01:12:49.659 --> 01:12:51.640
it. We're not trying to humiliate him
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:55.880
or anything. All right, so let's talk
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.859
about the elections and we'll talk about whatever
01:12:58.859 --> 01:13:01.539
else everybody else wants to talk about. So if
01:13:01.539 --> 01:13:03.840
you have questions. Oh, I guess do you want to
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:05.920
throw in? Nobody takes us up on this so
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.260
the phone calls. Nobody ever calls.
01:13:08.260 --> 01:13:10.399
If people want to call, they can put in the chat
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.760
that they want to call, then we will open. 100
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:15.560
if somebody wants to call
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:17.939
in, I'll turn on. I'm just going to turn on. You
01:13:17.939 --> 01:13:20.539
said sit there for no reason at all. Yeah, there's
01:13:20.539 --> 01:13:24.159
no point. So be correct, be courageous. If
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.420
you want to come on and talk to
01:13:26.420 --> 01:13:30.020
Ted live, I'll click the button. What's
01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:33.000
this new thing? Do you see this on the upper right
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.100
hand corner of the Rumble screen? Run ad now.
01:13:36.100 --> 01:13:41.899
Yes. Do you remember when we were doing the ad
01:13:41.899 --> 01:13:45.439
reads? Yeah, it was still good. You can actually
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.640
just plug them in where they will run automatically
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:52.239
without you having to go in and read it yourself.
01:13:52.970 --> 01:13:56.949
That just went live yesterday. Let's see what
01:13:56.949 --> 01:14:00.229
happens if you do this. It's sort of the top
01:14:00.229 --> 01:14:03.909
of the hour. Let's see. At launch, mid-roll
01:14:03.909 --> 01:14:09.420
ads run for 30 seconds. Okay. I don't see any
01:14:09.420 --> 01:14:12.920
ads underneath it. You have to build it. You
01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:16.420
have to actually build the ad. Oh, really? Okay.
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:20.279
And there's an ad for Keat. What is that? No
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:27.579
idea. Keat is, what is it? Oh, it's encryption
01:14:27.579 --> 01:14:33.380
technology. Huh. Okay. Yeah, they're not paying
01:14:33.380 --> 01:14:35.659
enough. Keat's not paying enough to read their
01:14:35.659 --> 01:14:41.060
ad. So sorry, guys. Okay. And there's
01:14:41.060 --> 01:14:43.619
Patriot Firearms. They don't pay enough either.
01:14:43.819 --> 01:14:48.279
Okay. So let's go back. All right. Let's talk
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:52.300
about the Brazilian elections. So Lula, who's
01:14:52.300 --> 01:14:56.739
the leftist, he's 80 years old. He just was reelected
01:14:56.739 --> 01:15:00.300
to a fourth term. He won 51.8% of the vote.
01:15:00.539 --> 01:15:03.760
He was expected by many to lose. This was considered
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.739
a surprise. This is the first time that anyone
01:15:09.739 --> 01:15:13.720
to overcome a loss in the first round. This is
01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:17.439
a two-round system like France has, and it's
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:20.039
the first time since 1989 that a presidential
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:25.199
candidate came in second in the first round and
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:28.880
then prevailed in the second round. His opponent,
01:15:29.020 --> 01:15:32.760
Flavio Bolsonaro, of course, son of the right
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:36.560
-wing Bolsonaro, is disputing the results.
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:40.699
He says he's calling because the government,
01:15:40.699 --> 01:15:42.939
the Lula government, extended the voting hours
01:15:42.939 --> 01:15:46.100
by two additional hours supposedly due to
01:15:46.100 --> 01:15:48.880
terrible traffic, which look in Rio de Janeiro
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.779
they are famous for having. I've never been but
01:15:51.779 --> 01:15:54.340
the traffic is supposed to be absolutely horrendous.
01:15:54.340 --> 01:15:58.760
And but this is also his father
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:03.439
used to constantly disagree and refuse to
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.760
accept that he had lost. So this is kind of like
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:09.340
the same old same old. But does this, well here
01:16:09.340 --> 01:16:13.399
well you're missing something here. So Lula
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:18.500
appointed his personal attorney. Whatever, he appointed
01:16:18.500 --> 01:16:22.140
his personal attorney to handle
01:16:22.140 --> 01:16:25.640
this on the Supreme Court. That on its
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:31.659
face is. What do you mean handle it? Well, okay,
01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:35.140
so he appointed his personal attorney to the
01:16:35.140 --> 01:16:39.000
Brazilian Supreme Court. He then requested, he
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.560
being Lula, requested that his friend extend
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:46.109
voting hours for two hours to his personal attorney,
01:16:46.250 --> 01:16:49.229
who now has a vested interest in his client winning
01:16:49.229 --> 01:16:54.670
the presidency. That is a conflict of
01:16:54.670 --> 01:16:57.109
interest of the highest order. That sounds totally
01:16:57.109 --> 01:17:01.880
not corrupt at all. Of course not. But that's
01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:04.760
the case though because are you on, is the case that Lula going to make is
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:06.699
that only his voters were impacted by the bad
01:17:06.699 --> 01:17:08.840
traffic at Sao Paulo and Rio. Of course not. They
01:17:13.060 --> 01:17:16.060
were stuffing ballots. Everyone knows
01:17:16.060 --> 01:17:19.079
that traffic only affects members of one party
01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.470
at any given time. Of course, that's why there's
01:17:22.470 --> 01:17:24.289
those some. Every now and then you'll hear
01:17:24.289 --> 01:17:28.149
oh my God, the chick in Chicago. You know, on the
01:17:28.149 --> 01:17:30.550
Ryan Expressway, there was a serious Democrat
01:17:30.550 --> 01:17:33.569
backup. Sometimes you'll hear, outside JFK Airport, Republicans were backed
01:17:38.130 --> 01:17:41.279
up. That's a thing. Yeah, of course.
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:45.000
But it only ever affects your voters. So, of
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.600
course, what you're going to do. Ted,
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.100
you've got to admit that this even makes Chicago
01:17:51.100 --> 01:17:54.869
politics look honest. Well, the idea that Brazil...
01:17:54.869 --> 01:17:58.029
It is bad. The idea that Brazil would
01:17:58.029 --> 01:18:01.270
have corruption does not surprise me. Let me
01:18:01.270 --> 01:18:04.270
tell you a personal story, as I do so often.
01:18:04.670 --> 01:18:08.270
So back in the 80s, as you know, I worked for
01:18:08.270 --> 01:18:10.909
a Japanese bank. One of our big customers was
01:18:10.909 --> 01:18:14.130
called Albras. That's the state aluminum company
01:18:14.130 --> 01:18:16.680
of Brazil. I don't know if it still exists. But
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.579
basically, they controlled the entire aluminum
01:18:19.579 --> 01:18:26.279
mining and industry of Brazil, much of which
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:30.819
was in the Amazon basin. Anyway, they were one
01:18:30.819 --> 01:18:35.039
of a few clients that we had where previous loan
01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:37.439
officers had sent them hundreds of millions of
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.100
dollars and never gotten a signed loan agreement.
01:18:40.380 --> 01:18:42.979
And every now and then, the Albras executives
01:18:42.979 --> 01:18:48.000
would fly into New York and basically go visit
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.340
prostitutes and go drinking on the taxpayer's
01:18:51.340 --> 01:18:54.560
dollar, or in this case, their taxpayer's cruzeros.
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:59.529
And they'd be partying like madmen. And they
01:18:59.529 --> 01:19:02.090
were supposedly there to negotiate the loan agreement
01:19:02.090 --> 01:19:04.069
after the money that they'd already received.
01:19:04.250 --> 01:19:07.590
It's very fucked up. And they were never around.
01:19:07.750 --> 01:19:10.930
And my boss was always, call up
01:19:10.930 --> 01:19:14.189
this bordello that Henry Kissinger goes to and
01:19:14.189 --> 01:19:16.310
see if they have any space for our friends and
01:19:16.310 --> 01:19:19.229
be good hosts. And I'd be like these guys, they're
01:19:19.229 --> 01:19:22.050
corrupt, who are leeching money out of
01:19:22.050 --> 01:19:25.069
the Brazilian economy. This was during the
01:19:25.069 --> 01:19:28.670
time, during the same exact time that countries
01:19:28.670 --> 01:19:31.609
including Brazil were demanding debt forgiveness
01:19:31.609 --> 01:19:34.189
because of developing world debt forgiveness.
01:19:34.189 --> 01:19:36.850
Oh, we can't afford to pay back our debts.
01:19:36.850 --> 01:19:38.689
Meanwhile, they're completely
01:19:38.689 --> 01:19:41.750
corrupt anyway. These guys, I remember one time
01:19:41.750 --> 01:19:44.489
I get called into a conference room by my boss
01:19:44.489 --> 01:19:47.050
where the Albras guys are there. They flew on
01:19:47.050 --> 01:19:49.590
diplomatic passports so they don't get searched
01:19:49.590 --> 01:19:51.829
at the airport. They show up and they're using
01:19:51.829 --> 01:19:56.090
X-Acto blades to rip open the linings of their
01:19:56.090 --> 01:19:58.489
suit jacket, their cheap suit jackets, which
01:19:58.489 --> 01:20:01.789
are packed with cash. And he's,
01:20:01.909 --> 01:20:04.569
oh, can you tell these guys where to exchange?
01:20:04.710 --> 01:20:06.510
I'm not going to get into too much detail beyond
01:20:06.510 --> 01:20:09.779
this. Suffice to say, can you tell
01:20:09.779 --> 01:20:12.899
them where they can turn these cruzeros into
01:20:12.899 --> 01:20:16.899
US dollars in a way that no government may know
01:20:16.899 --> 01:20:20.399
that it happened. And it was like this
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:25.590
was a routine matter. They were crazy
01:20:25.590 --> 01:20:27.630
and I remember during the whole debt third world
01:20:27.630 --> 01:20:31.260
debt thing they were threatening to default on
01:20:31.260 --> 01:20:36.289
one of our big loans and I was like, no, we will
01:20:36.289 --> 01:20:39.430
fucking go in there. We will take over a public
01:20:39.430 --> 01:20:43.609
park in Rio. We will not tolerate it. It's
01:20:43.609 --> 01:20:47.649
zero tolerance for default. They were just,
01:20:47.710 --> 01:20:50.149
but we're third world. It's, you're corrupt.
01:20:50.529 --> 01:20:54.609
You're not poor. You're corrupt. Brazil is a
01:20:54.609 --> 01:20:58.590
rich country. It's a very rich country with lots
01:20:58.590 --> 01:21:01.850
of natural resources and a vibrant economy. It's
01:21:01.850 --> 01:21:04.329
you're just corrupt. No, of course. And
01:21:04.329 --> 01:21:06.270
I guess that's the point that I'm making.
01:21:06.310 --> 01:21:12.170
If you pretend that you are a democracy, let's
01:21:12.170 --> 01:21:14.390
just. And you lived in Brazil, right? I did.
01:21:14.590 --> 01:21:16.989
So let's just pretend. Did you witness any corruption
01:21:16.989 --> 01:21:19.430
while you were there? Oh, all the time. People
01:21:19.430 --> 01:21:22.529
bribing cops and things. I once saw a military
01:21:22.529 --> 01:21:24.170
policeman shoot some dude right there on the
01:21:24.170 --> 01:21:25.930
beach. It blew his brains out right there on
01:21:25.930 --> 01:21:31.329
the beach. It was outstanding. It was just wild.
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:37.720
Just how it was. The cost of living was outstanding.
01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:47.520
I loved it. Alas, I am here. Well,
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:53.119
it is what it is. Okay, so let's, okay, Kilroy,
01:21:53.140 --> 01:21:55.979
thanks very much for the $5 donation. We need
01:21:55.979 --> 01:21:59.000
more of you guys. More Kilroys, please. Be like
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.479
Kilroy. Right-wing pundits, he says, are using
01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.680
France's riots as a scare tactic to vote right.
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:09.199
That's true. Also saw a post saying France didn't
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.560
honor Israel and is now paying for it. First
01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:16.239
of all, I would say France honored Israel a lot
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.680
more than it ought to have. It's certainly been
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:21.720
in bed with the Israelis for a long time. But
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.220
we know that the Israelis were behind the African
01:22:25.220 --> 01:22:28.539
storming of their Spanish enclaves. And the Israelis
01:22:28.539 --> 01:22:32.039
considered it a punishment to Spain
01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:34.699
when they were, when the Moroccan government just
01:22:34.699 --> 01:22:39.130
opened up the gates and said, here you go. Here's
01:22:39.130 --> 01:22:43.880
your ticket to Spain. Dear Spain, to you from
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:48.779
Israel with love. It would not surprise me. And
01:22:48.779 --> 01:22:51.079
Kilroy's follow up with a two dollar donation.
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:53.979
Could riots in France be stirred up by Israel?
01:22:54.060 --> 01:22:56.479
I don't think that's what's happening. I think
01:22:56.479 --> 01:22:58.279
that the French don't need any
01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:01.159
help writing or protesting. They're good
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:04.319
at it themselves and this is definitely
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:07.579
organic and authentic in every way.
01:23:07.579 --> 01:23:10.439
I don't have dark suspicions in that respect
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.520
although certainly we know there are provocateurs
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.920
who are trying to make the protesters look worse
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:21.060
by turning peaceful protests into riots
01:23:21.060 --> 01:23:25.500
and so on. But I guess the question here is,
01:23:25.579 --> 01:23:28.479
yeah, I love the whole idea
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:31.640
that I'm not really sure exactly. Maybe you can
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:34.300
help me as the resident conservative here, Robby,
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.020
to tell me how exactly what's the logic of if
01:23:38.020 --> 01:23:41.500
you vote Democratic, the United States
01:23:41.500 --> 01:23:44.159
will end up looking like France. Democrats
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.180
have been in power pretty recently. Democrats
01:23:47.180 --> 01:23:50.720
were in power two years ago in the United
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.439
States and we didn't have riots. They've been
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.520
in, Democrats have been in power many times and
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:59.920
we didn't have riots. How is that, how does
01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:02.300
that even make any sense? It doesn't. That's one
01:24:02.300 --> 01:24:04.020
of the reasons why Republicans are going to get
01:24:04.020 --> 01:24:06.079
destroyed next month and I'm looking forward
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:10.680
to it. Let's be honest, it was the
01:24:10.930 --> 01:24:14.750
hero, the messiah of the Republican Party,
01:24:14.750 --> 01:24:18.989
Ronald Reagan who granted the first mass amnesty.
01:24:20.010 --> 01:24:22.090
But they promised that the borders would be closed.
01:24:22.229 --> 01:24:24.569
They were never closed. And it's been under both
01:24:24.569 --> 01:24:28.050
Republican and Democrat administrations that
01:24:28.050 --> 01:24:30.170
the invasion of the United States has continued
01:24:30.170 --> 01:24:35.369
unabated my entire lifetime. No one's buying
01:24:35.369 --> 01:24:38.430
anymore. No one's buying the lie. And now what's
01:24:38.430 --> 01:24:40.949
happening is that because they've done too much
01:24:40.949 --> 01:24:44.590
of it. So between immigration and between inflation.
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.840
The cost of living is outpaced wages. And now
01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.739
people just all across the political divide are
01:24:51.739 --> 01:24:53.960
able to look around and say, this is not what
01:24:53.960 --> 01:25:01.109
we voted for. This is wrong. Yeah. Yeah. It's
01:25:01.109 --> 01:25:05.350
Vivek, okay? So you have this dude who runs
01:25:05.350 --> 01:25:11.970
this horrible ad using his opponent's estranged
01:25:11.970 --> 01:25:15.409
mother who allowed her daughter to get raped.
01:25:16.539 --> 01:25:18.960
What was her name? Amy Acton. I could be saying
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:20.220
her first name wrong. I know her last name is
01:25:20.220 --> 01:25:24.489
Acton. And then he runs this ad. And then you
01:25:24.489 --> 01:25:28.380
have the likes of Laura Loomer or Larry Loomer,
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.220
depending on if you believe she's actually a
01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:32.340
woman or not. She could be rolling by crawling
01:25:32.340 --> 01:25:36.140
style. I don't know. Who goes out and tells Republicans,
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:39.760
if you don't vote for Vivek, then you're a racist.
01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:41.300
The reason why you're not voting for him is not
01:25:41.300 --> 01:25:43.739
because he sucks. It's because he's a brown Indian
01:25:43.739 --> 01:25:47.079
Hindu. In which case, I look and say all of the
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:54.250
above is true. He deserves to lose. We are getting
01:25:54.250 --> 01:26:00.229
a request here from... God, let me... Sorry,
01:26:00.329 --> 01:26:03.970
I'm... No, you're fine. Sorry. Please...
01:26:03.970 --> 01:26:10.729
Okay, this is from James Duan. Please
01:26:10.729 --> 01:26:13.289
do a Patreon subscriber drive. We want you to
01:26:13.289 --> 01:26:15.810
survive in asking subscribers to pay monthly
01:26:15.810 --> 01:26:18.930
empowers us to actually move the needle to ensure
01:26:18.930 --> 01:26:23.029
something we care about survives. So we do have
01:26:23.029 --> 01:26:28.130
a Patreon page. I'm gonna pull that up and
01:26:28.130 --> 01:26:31.789
put that up there. But also can you, Robby,
01:26:31.789 --> 01:26:34.029
can you sort of break through how people, the
01:26:34.029 --> 01:26:37.350
different ways that people can subscribe to
01:26:37.350 --> 01:26:40.270
the show. Sure, yeah. There's
01:26:40.270 --> 01:26:42.670
several different ways. One way if you're watching
01:26:42.670 --> 01:26:46.130
on Rumble which we are still, at least as of
01:26:46.130 --> 01:26:47.850
now, still a member of the Creator Program over
01:26:47.850 --> 01:26:50.590
there. You can subscribe to Rumble during the
01:26:50.590 --> 01:26:55.489
live stream. How are we doing on the chats? Chats?
01:26:56.289 --> 01:26:59.210
It's going to be tight, but what also happens,
01:26:59.329 --> 01:27:00.850
I'll be putting together the premium episode
01:27:00.850 --> 01:27:03.109
and getting more shorts and stuff up today. We
01:27:03.109 --> 01:27:05.489
need unique chats, guys. So if you don't normally
01:27:05.489 --> 01:27:08.970
chat and you're watching on Rumble, please just
01:27:08.970 --> 01:27:10.850
say hi. You don't have to do anything else. But
01:27:10.850 --> 01:27:13.310
right now, we need anybody who has not chatted
01:27:13.310 --> 01:27:18.069
in recent days, months, years to just come in
01:27:18.069 --> 01:27:20.930
and say hi. Yeah, because basically, even though
01:27:20.930 --> 01:27:24.149
Rumble has nuked our pay by 98%, some pay is
01:27:24.149 --> 01:27:27.250
still better than none. So that helps. A poop
01:27:27.250 --> 01:27:30.250
emoji is perfectly fine. On Rumble, you become
01:27:30.250 --> 01:27:33.649
a paid channel subscriber for $5 a month during
01:27:33.649 --> 01:27:38.529
a live stream. On YouTube, you can become a channel
01:27:38.529 --> 01:27:43.550
member. It starts at $5 here on YouTube. And
01:27:43.550 --> 01:27:45.010
then there's different tiers that you're able
01:27:45.010 --> 01:27:50.689
to subscribe to. And then also the Patreon that
01:27:50.689 --> 01:27:52.909
Ted put up, you can go in and become a monthly
01:27:52.909 --> 01:27:59.510
subscriber that way. If you're listening instead
01:27:59.510 --> 01:28:05.069
of watching, it's patreon.com/CW. I don't
01:28:05.069 --> 01:28:08.649
know why. Slash deprogram podcast. That's patreon
01:28:08.649 --> 01:28:13.449
.com slash C as in Charlie, W as in world, slash
01:28:13.449 --> 01:28:18.930
deprogram podcast. And one thing,
01:28:18.930 --> 01:28:21.270
after YouTube blew up the creator program,
01:28:21.449 --> 01:28:25.689
I want y'all to understand that. I'm putting
01:28:25.689 --> 01:28:28.829
my money where my mouth is literally. I'm doing
01:28:28.829 --> 01:28:33.579
this for free now because the finances are to
01:28:33.579 --> 01:28:39.300
a point that they can't pay me. So if y'all
01:28:39.300 --> 01:28:41.909
want the show to continue, those are
01:28:41.909 --> 01:28:43.750
the three ways that you're able to support. Support
01:28:43.750 --> 01:28:45.970
us on Patreon. You're able to do it directly
01:28:45.970 --> 01:28:48.529
on Rumble for five bucks a month. Or on YouTube,
01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:51.029
you have a tiered list that you're able to go
01:28:51.029 --> 01:28:53.670
through. You get different perks on YouTube based
01:28:54.430 --> 01:28:56.890
on the based on the tier it is that you that
01:28:56.890 --> 01:29:00.090
you do and if you want to support the work
01:29:00.090 --> 01:29:03.090
that I'm doing, hop over to West Glacier Gaming
01:29:03.090 --> 01:29:05.489
over there on YouTube and become a channel subscriber
01:29:05.489 --> 01:29:07.750
that helps me out. That might be able to pay my
01:29:07.750 --> 01:29:11.510
bills too. So that's the reality. It's
01:29:11.510 --> 01:29:17.220
the economics are such that the rulers that
01:29:17.220 --> 01:29:19.539
be are doing their absolute best to starve out
01:29:19.539 --> 01:29:22.569
small independent voices. True. That's what they're
01:29:22.569 --> 01:29:26.029
doing. That is the play. And so for the
01:29:26.029 --> 01:29:28.909
price, podcasting is still sort of wild and crazy.
01:29:29.189 --> 01:29:31.970
And I was just listening to Freakonomics yesterday
01:29:31.970 --> 01:29:34.770
over the weekend. And they're talking about how
01:29:34.770 --> 01:29:38.250
podcasting is gravitating. The next step
01:29:38.250 --> 01:29:40.090
is going to be that it's going to be corporatized
01:29:40.090 --> 01:29:43.810
and they're going to turn it all into,
01:29:43.810 --> 01:29:45.989
sort of perfect to try to professionalize it
01:29:45.989 --> 01:29:48.449
like television. That's what they want to do.
01:29:48.550 --> 01:29:51.489
So the only way individual shows like this can
01:29:51.489 --> 01:29:54.989
survive is if they have a pretty steady viewership
01:29:54.989 --> 01:29:57.850
with a lot of financial support so they don't
01:29:57.850 --> 01:30:01.289
so we can resist that kind of impulse
01:30:01.289 --> 01:30:04.590
to, assuming that we were asked to sell
01:30:04.590 --> 01:30:08.130
out, that we would even be in a position.
01:30:08.130 --> 01:30:11.130
The irony here is nobody, we all value
01:30:11.130 --> 01:30:13.829
our independence. We're too wild and crazy.
01:30:13.829 --> 01:30:16.409
I've been independent my entire life. I've never
01:30:16.409 --> 01:30:19.840
been on staff anywhere. Probably same for you.
01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:23.840
And so this is definitely, it's a better
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:25.899
approach. I wouldn't want to do it any other way.
01:30:25.899 --> 01:30:30.779
Yeah. And one thing, no, Jeff Dornick
01:30:30.779 --> 01:30:33.680
the guy who's just on. We are partnering up with
01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:35.539
him on the Freedom First Network. We're
01:30:35.539 --> 01:30:37.760
doing a lot of things. Ted is going to start writing
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.359
for him. No, professional Manila Chan is going
01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:44.600
to be an editor. He's putting together an actual newsroom over there on Pickaxe. So
01:30:47.380 --> 01:30:49.420
there are things that are happening.
01:30:49.420 --> 01:30:51.619
It's just it's harder and harder to be independent
01:30:51.619 --> 01:30:54.880
now without getting in bed with corporate oligarchs.
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.619
And once you do that you lose your voice. They
01:30:57.619 --> 01:31:00.319
control you and that's why we're resisting it.
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.260
That's why we're relying on crowdfunding. And
01:31:03.260 --> 01:31:07.239
Philip asked me how do I pay my bills. I've
01:31:07.310 --> 01:31:10.090
worked for a few different shows producing
01:31:10.090 --> 01:31:13.149
so those so they pay me. But I'm, listen, I'm not
01:31:13.149 --> 01:31:16.789
gonna lie to you. No, losing the game with
01:31:16.789 --> 01:31:19.680
John Karyaku that hurt. Losing the paycheck from
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.699
this show hurts. YouTube blowing up the creator
01:31:23.699 --> 01:31:26.600
program, that hurt too. So the way that I'm able
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:29.859
to pay my bills, quite frankly, is because people
01:31:29.859 --> 01:31:32.100
like y'all are going over there, are going to
01:31:32.100 --> 01:31:34.039
West Glacier Gaming on YouTube and becoming channel
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:39.159
members. That's how it's working. Honest to God.
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:43.619
There's nothing fancy about it. If it
01:31:43.619 --> 01:31:45.800
comes to a point where I cannot pay my bills,
01:31:45.939 --> 01:31:49.399
I will have to tell Ted and JT, I'm sorry, I
01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:51.039
can't do this anymore. I have to get myself a
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:53.779
real job. And after that, who the hell knows?
01:31:55.300 --> 01:31:58.500
I found, by the way, that ad that we were talking
01:31:58.500 --> 01:32:00.140
about with Jeff. Oh, good. I'll throw it up.
01:32:00.579 --> 01:32:03.199
Go ahead and please put it up. And by the way,
01:32:03.220 --> 01:32:05.819
it's hilarious. So this is the comment that this
01:32:05.819 --> 01:32:08.840
is from some Zionist. Unless Abdul El-Sayed
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:11.020
immediately demands that this campaign ad be
01:32:11.020 --> 01:32:14.079
taken down and unequivocally condemns it and
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:17.079
its creators, he will be exposed as a vile, dangerous,
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.760
and divisive anti-Semite. Any of my fellow Democrats
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.899
who condemn the disgusting Ramaswamy ad in Ohio
01:32:23.899 --> 01:32:26.720
but do not condemn this deserve our unflinching
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:29.350
condemn. We're seeing a lot of these
01:32:29.369 --> 01:32:35.689
Zyobot kind of posts here. And away we go. All
01:32:35.689 --> 01:32:38.449
right, let's go ahead and play it. All right,
01:32:38.529 --> 01:32:40.430
we're going to throw this puppy right on up here.
01:32:41.449 --> 01:32:44.630
By the way, when you watch it, just think, is
01:32:44.630 --> 01:32:49.210
it anti-Semitic? Think about that. How about
01:32:49.210 --> 01:32:52.090
this? Screw Israel. I'll be anti-Semitic for
01:32:52.090 --> 01:32:56.529
you. Yeah, I know. What about the bananas? Yeah,
01:32:56.550 --> 01:33:01.119
I got them too. Honey. What? You're going to
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.140
have to put those eggs back. They don't like
01:33:03.140 --> 01:33:06.500
eggs anymore? No, they like eggs. But we have
01:33:06.500 --> 01:33:09.949
to set that $7 aside for killing Palestinians.
01:33:10.949 --> 01:33:13.390
What? Don't we give Israel $4 billion
01:33:13.390 --> 01:33:15.710
a year anyways? Yeah, and now we're giving them
01:33:15.710 --> 01:33:19.850
another $26 billion. Do you know how much that
01:33:19.850 --> 01:33:23.590
is per American taxpayer? No. It's like $161
01:33:23.590 --> 01:33:26.590
per person. Apparently it's costing us a lot
01:33:26.590 --> 01:33:29.680
of money to drop bombs on Gaza. It's terrible.
01:33:31.890 --> 01:33:34.510
Don't they get universal health care, too? Yeah,
01:33:34.510 --> 01:33:38.250
they do. We're paying for that, too, probably.
01:33:38.430 --> 01:33:40.989
Might as well put the bananas back. Why the f***
01:33:40.989 --> 01:33:45.119
do we have to pay for all this? Don't cuss at
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:48.819
me. Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what
01:33:48.819 --> 01:33:51.600
Israelis want and so little about what you want?
01:33:51.819 --> 01:33:57.460
Mike Rogers is for they-them. Abdul El-Sayed
01:33:57.460 --> 01:34:07.050
is for you. Pretty good ad. Yeah, I liked it.
01:34:07.340 --> 01:34:09.380
There's nothing anti-Semitic about
01:34:09.380 --> 01:34:13.720
it. It's factual. It's facts. Well, the only fact,
01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.739
the only thing that's wrong is it's not $161
01:34:16.739 --> 01:34:19.399
per person. It's a lot more than that because
01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:23.060
we pay interest on anything we spend, right, because
01:34:23.060 --> 01:34:26.680
we don't. We have a massive national debt. So if
01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:30.020
the US government spends $161, it's $161
01:34:30.020 --> 01:34:33.640
plus compound interest in perpetuity, right? So
01:34:34.270 --> 01:34:36.989
it's really thousands of dollars per person.
01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:41.500
It's crazy because, Ted, me and you have talked
01:34:41.500 --> 01:34:43.300
about this before. Governments really have three
01:34:43.300 --> 01:34:46.560
ways to raise money. The most honest way is through
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:50.720
taxation. You tax your citizens because governments
01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:55.159
don't produce anything. The second way is by
01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:58.539
creating debt and then monetizing that debt with
01:34:58.539 --> 01:35:02.319
bonds with the promise of paying the borrower
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:05.949
back with interest. That's not ideal,
01:35:06.130 --> 01:35:07.550
but it's more honest what we've got now. The
01:35:07.550 --> 01:35:10.210
third way is through just rampant inflation,
01:35:10.510 --> 01:35:12.930
which is what we've got right now, which is they
01:35:12.930 --> 01:35:15.270
just create more and more currency that just
01:35:15.270 --> 01:35:17.689
destroys the value of the money that's in circulation.
01:35:18.270 --> 01:35:20.149
And you're literally at that point borrowing
01:35:20.149 --> 01:35:24.029
from your future, from future generations. That's
01:35:24.029 --> 01:35:28.130
what we're doing. And so this money that we're
01:35:28.130 --> 01:35:32.510
giving to Israel, my grandkids aren't even conceived
01:35:32.510 --> 01:35:37.350
yet, are already in debt. Think about that. Think
01:35:37.350 --> 01:35:40.109
about what I just said for a second. The next
01:35:40.109 --> 01:35:42.250
generation of Americans that have not even been
01:35:42.250 --> 01:35:44.210
conceived, they're not a gleam in their daddy's
01:35:44.210 --> 01:35:49.069
eye, are already in debt. Yeah, that was horrible.
01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:52.079
And that's what's going on here. And there's
01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:54.779
nothing anti-Semitic to point that out. Why
01:35:54.779 --> 01:35:59.659
is it that Europe as a whole deserves a single
01:35:59.659 --> 01:36:03.079
penny of American taxpayer defense? They're a
01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:06.890
sovereign nation, supposedly. True. They should
01:36:06.890 --> 01:36:09.949
be able to take care of themselves. Listen, if
01:36:09.949 --> 01:36:12.149
France wants to have a pension system, then it
01:36:12.149 --> 01:36:14.170
needs to decide, does it want a pension system
01:36:14.170 --> 01:36:16.699
or a military? Because you can't have both. Right
01:36:16.699 --> 01:36:18.659
now, the reason why it has both is because the
01:36:18.659 --> 01:36:21.579
American taxpayer is subsidizing the defense
01:36:21.579 --> 01:36:23.920
of Europe collectively. The French don't have
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:25.239
to worry about the Germans getting uppity and
01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:28.920
backhanding them like they want to do every 30
01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:33.250
years. That is the reality. It's unpopular but
01:36:33.250 --> 01:36:35.390
that's true. And there's nothing racist or anti
01:36:35.390 --> 01:36:40.270
-Semitic about pointing that fact out. True, true,
01:36:40.689 --> 01:36:43.909
true. We got thanks for the
01:36:43.909 --> 01:36:47.369
thanks for the donations that are coming in.
01:36:47.369 --> 01:36:50.710
Yeah, thank you Ray. Thanks for the ten dollars
01:36:50.710 --> 01:36:55.689
for the cause. Much appreciated. Still need
01:36:55.689 --> 01:36:58.850
more. We definitely need. To put this into
01:36:58.850 --> 01:37:02.979
perspective, we really should be getting $200
01:37:02.979 --> 01:37:07.159
or $300 per show to make this work. And we're
01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:10.579
definitely not there. Yeah. As people
01:37:10.579 --> 01:37:12.840
subscribe and stuff, listen, it's going to happen,
01:37:12.939 --> 01:37:16.640
I believe. And frankly, if it doesn't, then the
01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:19.500
show doesn't continue. Yeah, that's true.
01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:24.300
Is the program worth the cost of a meal at Taco
01:37:24.300 --> 01:37:30.260
Bell? It's a lot safer. You won't get E. coli.
01:37:31.180 --> 01:37:35.579
But you get the colon cleanse at Taco Bell. And
01:37:35.579 --> 01:37:38.060
look, if you don't eat enough, I'll give you
01:37:38.060 --> 01:37:41.289
E. coli. Oh, one thing. I have no idea if this
01:37:41.289 --> 01:37:42.949
is going to happen or not, Ted, but we're just
01:37:42.949 --> 01:37:46.369
going to throw this out there. So we had a little
01:37:46.369 --> 01:37:50.630
bonfire event last night at my church. And my
01:37:50.630 --> 01:37:52.770
pastor started talking to me about whether or
01:37:52.770 --> 01:37:55.609
not, about my stance that Israel is not an exceptional
01:37:55.609 --> 01:37:58.770
nation and that it is somehow held different.
01:37:59.229 --> 01:38:00.850
I don't know if he's going to take me up on this,
01:38:00.909 --> 01:38:03.710
but I challenged him to a debate this Friday
01:38:03.710 --> 01:38:11.659
on my Bible podcast. Can I play too? You
01:38:11.659 --> 01:38:14.600
would be the moderator. Oh good, good, good. I cannot think
01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.020
of a better person to be the moderator. So if
01:38:17.020 --> 01:38:21.060
nor can I. So if he accepts it will be yours truly
01:38:21.060 --> 01:38:26.359
versus the pastor. I'll make sure everyone stays
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:30.470
civilized and in line with God. All right.
01:38:30.470 --> 01:38:33.489
Never thought I'd have that. I never have to
01:38:33.489 --> 01:38:37.109
say that. Well hey, I'm still working on getting
01:38:37.109 --> 01:38:40.300
you saved. All right, well that's a heavy
01:38:40.300 --> 01:38:44.640
lift. All right, let's talk about. All right,
01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:47.920
so I think so. Okay, big question I have for you
01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:50.779
about Brazil is the pundits are saying that
01:38:50.779 --> 01:38:53.399
this kind of breaks it. There had been
01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:56.819
a right-wing wave in Latin America. Could
01:38:56.819 --> 01:39:01.210
this be the beginning of the end of that? Well,
01:39:01.250 --> 01:39:04.119
what has right-wing government got you? And
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:07.920
a big shout to Evan Kopel over there on YouTube.
01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:09.680
Thank you for becoming a channel member. Thank
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:15.310
you. That's what we need more of. Memberships
01:39:15.310 --> 01:39:21.529
are really the, that's what makes it all work.
01:39:21.609 --> 01:39:24.569
But seriously, to answer your question, what
01:39:25.020 --> 01:39:28.180
has right-wing government or left-wing government
01:39:28.180 --> 01:39:32.970
got anyone anywhere? Europe is left-wing.
01:39:32.970 --> 01:39:35.149
You yourself point out that the French government
01:39:35.149 --> 01:39:38.989
is left-wing. Why are the French people burning
01:39:38.989 --> 01:39:41.289
this, burning the country down because the left
01:39:41.289 --> 01:39:43.050
-wing government doesn't deliver the same way
01:39:43.050 --> 01:39:45.189
that the right-wing government doesn't. Yeah,
01:39:45.409 --> 01:39:47.630
no, that well that's true and that's going to
01:39:47.630 --> 01:39:49.430
be an interesting thing. Right now
01:39:49.430 --> 01:39:52.569
all things being equal, hard to imagine Marine
01:39:52.569 --> 01:39:56.130
Le Pen not winning next year and becoming
01:39:56.130 --> 01:39:58.170
the new president of France. But it's going to
01:39:58.170 --> 01:40:00.750
be interesting to see if she can deliver for
01:40:00.750 --> 01:40:03.989
the French people. Obviously she would
01:40:03.989 --> 01:40:06.569
need coattails. She'd need to be able to control
01:40:06.569 --> 01:40:09.590
parliament by a significant extent.
01:40:09.590 --> 01:40:14.359
But if she does, there's going
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.500
to be so much pressure on her to impose austerity
01:40:17.500 --> 01:40:20.659
and that's just going to cause more riots. Well,
01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:23.659
why do you have to impose austerity if you can just
01:40:23.659 --> 01:40:27.840
cut off Ukraine and Israel? You could.
01:40:27.859 --> 01:40:30.520
Listen, what I don't understand, and you're the
01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:32.300
French citizen here, so you explain it to me.
01:40:33.069 --> 01:40:37.529
Why is it, and I mean this sincerely, why is
01:40:37.529 --> 01:40:40.670
it that the French people tolerate staying in
01:40:40.670 --> 01:40:43.170
the European Union when the European Union does
01:40:43.170 --> 01:40:46.909
nothing at all for the French people except suck
01:40:46.909 --> 01:40:51.229
out the blood of the state? What's the point?
01:40:51.350 --> 01:40:53.960
What benefit does France get out of it? The only
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.899
thing that they get out of it is it's easy for
01:40:56.899 --> 01:41:00.159
a French citizen to live or work anywhere in
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:04.060
Europe. They don't have any border controls if
01:41:04.060 --> 01:41:05.659
they want to drive to a neighboring country.
01:41:06.750 --> 01:41:10.649
Those are conveniences. It's convenient. It's
01:41:10.649 --> 01:41:13.409
suicide. Okay, so let me point this out to you.
01:41:13.609 --> 01:41:16.149
Let's just say that you lived in France. You're
01:41:16.149 --> 01:41:18.930
a French citizen. Let's just assume that you
01:41:18.930 --> 01:41:22.739
were going to go work in Poland. Does Poland
01:41:22.739 --> 01:41:28.010
get your taxes or does France? That's a good
01:41:28.010 --> 01:41:30.869
question. It's the Polish government that does.
01:41:31.130 --> 01:41:33.390
Now, who is it that educated you? It was the
01:41:33.390 --> 01:41:36.369
French electorate that educated you. It was the
01:41:36.369 --> 01:41:38.369
French education system paid for by the French
01:41:38.369 --> 01:41:41.789
taxpayer who educated you. Then you go to some
01:41:41.789 --> 01:41:44.149
other country and you go work for them. You pay
01:41:44.149 --> 01:41:47.250
them taxes. What benefit are you at that point
01:41:47.250 --> 01:41:50.250
to your home country? You're a liability because
01:41:50.250 --> 01:41:53.109
you're still entitled to the pensions, but you're
01:41:53.109 --> 01:41:57.439
not paying into them. It is suicide. Oh, another
01:41:57.439 --> 01:41:59.500
thing is the legacy of World War II and World
01:41:59.500 --> 01:42:03.760
War I. A lot of Europeans, including Frenchmen,
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.920
believe that there's a stronger chance with the
01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:09.899
European integration, there's less chance of
01:42:09.899 --> 01:42:13.819
another war. That's stupid. Because you can't
01:42:13.819 --> 01:42:16.119
pay for it. What you're going to do is that whenever
01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:17.960
nations get desperate, they start doing irrational
01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:20.520
things like starting wars with their neighbors.
01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:30.489
So I'm looking at the, so let's see. Yeah, basically
01:42:30.489 --> 01:42:35.029
France has very mixed views toward the European
01:42:35.029 --> 01:42:42.930
Union. 47% of Frenchmen view the EU unfavorably
01:42:43.670 --> 01:42:48.050
and 52% view it favorably. So it's 50-50. On
01:42:48.050 --> 01:42:51.090
the opposite sides of that, only one other country
01:42:51.090 --> 01:42:54.630
views the EU more unfavorably, and that's Greece.
01:42:55.210 --> 01:42:57.109
Ironic, since they've gotten so much money from
01:42:57.109 --> 01:43:00.970
the EU. And Sweden views it the most unfavorably.
01:43:01.609 --> 01:43:05.970
Sorry, most favorably. 79% in Sweden like it,
01:43:06.050 --> 01:43:08.710
20% are against it. Well, of course it does because
01:43:08.710 --> 01:43:12.770
Sweden is just, they are the Ukraine of
01:43:12.770 --> 01:43:15.010
central Europe. They're sucking out the resources
01:43:15.010 --> 01:43:18.630
for the more productive states. Okay, what is Sweden
01:43:18.630 --> 01:43:23.310
famous for? No-go zones and Malmo and their
01:43:23.310 --> 01:43:28.649
welfare state. Who defends them? It's France, it's
01:43:28.649 --> 01:43:31.810
England, it's the United States. That's the point
01:43:31.810 --> 01:43:34.609
that I'm making. If you're able to outsource your
01:43:34.609 --> 01:43:37.609
collective defense to another group of
01:43:37.609 --> 01:43:41.659
people, then that allows you to have that. That
01:43:41.659 --> 01:43:44.079
allows you to have a big safety net. Chasing
01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:46.619
Blue Dragon claims to have called and thinks
01:43:46.619 --> 01:43:50.119
that he's waiting in the queue. Oh, he, okay,
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.869
he is here. Okay, put him up. Yeah, for some
01:43:53.869 --> 01:43:55.750
reason, Rumble did not notify us that he was
01:43:55.750 --> 01:44:00.350
here. So we're going to pop him on in. Howdy.
01:44:01.130 --> 01:44:05.260
Hello? Hey, Jason. It's Ted Rall and Robby West
01:44:05.260 --> 01:44:08.520
here on DeProgram. You're live. Please say
01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:11.229
what you got to say. Say it completely and
01:44:11.229 --> 01:44:14.609
concisely and turn off your sound in the background
01:44:14.609 --> 01:44:16.829
so that you don't have the delay because there
01:44:16.829 --> 01:44:19.489
might be a little bit of an echo. Go ahead. Oh,
01:44:19.489 --> 01:44:22.130
I was just calling and say hello and thank
01:44:22.130 --> 01:44:24.670
you guys for what you do. You guys
01:44:24.670 --> 01:44:27.029
are part of my daily routine and I'll be very
01:44:27.029 --> 01:44:31.300
sad if you guys go away. That's for sure. I've
01:44:31.300 --> 01:44:35.930
just been studying and trying to receive my
01:44:35.930 --> 01:44:38.729
degree in organic chemistry. It's been insane
01:44:38.729 --> 01:44:42.850
honestly. Oh wow. Yeah, where do you go to school? Right now I'm in Michigan
01:44:46.010 --> 01:44:51.539
at up north around Bay City. Yeah, I was
01:44:51.539 --> 01:44:54.039
gonna say organic chemistry at Columbia was notorious.
01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:56.920
It was a class that nobody wanted
01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:59.399
to take because it was so brutal. If you escaped
01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:02.380
with a B minus you were happy. Oh, I know it's
01:45:02.380 --> 01:45:04.819
insane and dealing with the instructors or and
01:45:04.819 --> 01:45:09.130
everyone around is it can be very tasking,
01:45:09.130 --> 01:45:10.609
that's for sure, because you want to go about
01:45:10.609 --> 01:45:13.909
doing things one way or learning things a certain
01:45:13.909 --> 01:45:16.930
way. And since they've changed education so much,
01:45:17.050 --> 01:45:18.930
probably since you've been in school,
01:45:19.130 --> 01:45:24.130
there's no directive with your peers
01:45:24.130 --> 01:45:26.170
or anyone to talk to because everyone's always
01:45:26.170 --> 01:45:31.140
studying completely different things. That sucks.
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:34.039
Well, hang in there. Good luck. Thanks for calling
01:45:34.039 --> 01:45:37.539
in. And thank you for supporting the show. Thank
01:45:37.539 --> 01:45:40.859
you so much. And sorry for making you wait. Rumble
01:45:40.859 --> 01:45:42.779
did not notify me that you're in the queue. So
01:45:42.779 --> 01:45:45.300
I think you're calling in. No, you're good. Thank
01:45:45.300 --> 01:45:50.699
you, guys. Calls are standing by. Is it pinned,
01:45:50.859 --> 01:45:53.260
the link? It is. It's pinned. I will go and jump
01:45:53.260 --> 01:45:58.050
on there again, too. Okay. So there's Mr. Charles
01:45:58.050 --> 01:46:01.050
G is asking if I sell calendars. The answer is
01:46:01.050 --> 01:46:05.449
no. I used to. And no I don't. However,
01:46:05.449 --> 01:46:08.550
I should say there is some news to say. I think
01:46:08.550 --> 01:46:11.689
it's going to be about November 11th in about
01:46:11.689 --> 01:46:14.789
two weeks. My next book is coming out. It's a collection
01:46:14.789 --> 01:46:18.270
of my cartoons about imperialism, colonialism
01:46:18.270 --> 01:46:22.069
and foreign policy. And I just went through them.
01:46:22.069 --> 01:46:25.130
I'm like it's funny, it's good. And you can see
01:46:25.130 --> 01:46:27.909
going back basically to when I started drawing
01:46:27.909 --> 01:46:31.149
cartoons for syndication 30 plus years ago sort
01:46:31.149 --> 01:46:33.890
of how so many things haven't really changed
01:46:33.890 --> 01:46:37.090
and the absurdity. And I promise the cartoons
01:46:37.090 --> 01:46:39.069
are funny, even though they deal with some pretty
01:46:39.069 --> 01:46:42.489
bleak topics. So I'll be getting into that. The
01:46:42.489 --> 01:46:45.050
book is called No More Mr. Nice Guy, but I'll
01:46:45.050 --> 01:46:47.750
give you, you can't buy it yet. I'll give
01:46:47.750 --> 01:46:53.949
details about that when I have them. I will
01:46:53.949 --> 01:46:56.250
need to get that book from you. Oh yeah, no,
01:46:56.350 --> 01:46:59.970
that's a given, of course. And so if you want,
01:46:59.989 --> 01:47:01.829
yeah, if you want to call in, go ahead and we
01:47:01.829 --> 01:47:04.449
will take your call just like we just did
01:47:04.449 --> 01:47:07.729
just now. Philip Blair says Sweden is famous
01:47:07.729 --> 01:47:11.750
for nudity too. That's true. Affiliates FOB
01:47:11.750 --> 01:47:15.430
says apparently Brazil's vote was extended because
01:47:15.430 --> 01:47:18.449
of public transport failures which likely would
01:47:18.449 --> 01:47:22.810
affect Lula more and bad weather for which Bolsonaro
01:47:22.810 --> 01:47:28.439
requested extensions. I guess it's true
01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:32.079
mass transit would affect left
01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:33.880
-wing voters more than right-wing voters in
01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:39.079
Latin America. Yeah. I don't know. I
01:47:39.079 --> 01:47:42.680
just know that it's been a very long time since
01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:45.079
I was there. And so obviously the country has
01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:49.600
changed, but I enjoyed it. It was wild. Some
01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:51.180
of the best food I ever had was there. I got
01:47:51.180 --> 01:47:53.979
to teach Brazilians about the Confederacy when
01:47:53.979 --> 01:47:55.760
I punched this dude out and called him a Yankee.
01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:58.239
But you're a Yankees. No, I promise you I am
01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:05.020
not. So that was fun. It was an experience. And
01:48:05.020 --> 01:48:07.779
I think that's one of the biggest weaknesses
01:48:07.779 --> 01:48:10.539
that Americans have is that we do not travel
01:48:10.539 --> 01:48:14.579
enough. Right. Right. No, I agree with that.
01:48:14.699 --> 01:48:17.579
I don't think it should be mandatory, but it's
01:48:17.579 --> 01:48:19.699
good to get out there for sure, just to see how
01:48:19.699 --> 01:48:21.920
other people do things better and differently.
01:48:22.220 --> 01:48:24.560
All right. So let's talk about Serbia a little
01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:30.159
bit, right? Alexander Vucic, who's been a centerpiece
01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.640
of Serbian politics since the 1980s. Some people
01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:36.960
call him a strong man. Some people call him pro
01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:42.960
-Russian. He was very unpopular in Serbia. And
01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:45.819
there were people who even flew back from other
01:48:45.819 --> 01:48:50.140
countries specifically in order to vote against
01:48:50.140 --> 01:48:52.739
him because they hated him so much. Or they drove
01:48:52.739 --> 01:48:56.420
long distances to their consulate to vote at
01:48:56.420 --> 01:48:59.239
weird times because the consular elections for
01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:02.800
Serbia were held at Serbia's consulate at the
01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:05.819
same time without adjusting as the polls were
01:49:05.819 --> 01:49:08.420
open in Serbia. So they were open in New
01:49:08.420 --> 01:49:10.960
York City at 2 o'clock in the morning, and there
01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:14.520
was a line outside the consulate of Serbians
01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:17.720
waiting to vote, I guess for the most part, against
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:20.640
Vucic. This was kind of seen. But on the other
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:25.130
hand, the guy who won is not really
01:49:25.130 --> 01:49:28.069
anti-Russian either because Serbia has long
01:49:28.069 --> 01:49:30.909
historic ties to Russia. So I don't see that changing
01:49:30.909 --> 01:49:34.029
anytime soon. Yeah, if anything, a lot of
01:49:34.029 --> 01:49:38.239
Serbs feel betrayed because the Russians were
01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:40.659
too weak to help them back during the Serbian
01:49:40.659 --> 01:49:42.560
war when the US was just bombing the hell out
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:48.619
of them. But I think also a majority of the
01:49:48.619 --> 01:49:50.420
population understands that what you said is
01:49:50.420 --> 01:49:53.579
true is that Russia was too weak to help protect
01:49:53.579 --> 01:49:55.600
them and they understand that and that's no longer
01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:59.659
the case. But really just all comes
01:49:59.659 --> 01:50:02.859
down to what are your values. Do you want to surrender your country's independence?
01:50:05.119 --> 01:50:06.659
You want to surrender your country's sovereignty
01:50:06.659 --> 01:50:10.020
to Brussels or do you think that your country
01:50:10.020 --> 01:50:12.819
should represent the values, the people who are
01:50:12.819 --> 01:50:17.050
there, your legacy population. And I don't
01:50:17.050 --> 01:50:19.329
see that going away. It's kind of like how you
01:50:19.329 --> 01:50:21.369
asked earlier about the difference between a
01:50:21.369 --> 01:50:23.710
right-wing and a left-wing government in Europe.
01:50:24.420 --> 01:50:26.939
I think that's the wrong question. I think the
01:50:26.939 --> 01:50:30.020
question is, this is a populist backlash. This
01:50:30.020 --> 01:50:34.020
transcends normal politics. This comes into what
01:50:34.020 --> 01:50:36.479
does it actually mean to be Serb or Croat or
01:50:36.479 --> 01:50:41.149
French or German or a Dane? What does that even
01:50:41.149 --> 01:50:42.770
mean? It doesn't mean anything at all anymore.
01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:46.300
And if it means something, then the state exists
01:50:46.300 --> 01:50:50.180
to serve you and your interests. And I think
01:50:50.180 --> 01:50:52.420
that's really what this is going into. I think
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that the European experiment is dying and it
01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:58.539
cannot die fast enough. And it's time for the
01:50:58.539 --> 01:51:01.539
independent nations of Europe to become independent
01:51:01.539 --> 01:51:04.239
again and start focusing on their own problems,
01:51:04.380 --> 01:51:07.800
their own people, their issues. And I also include
01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:11.439
East Asia in that. The Japanese need to start
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:15.060
taking care of Japan again and rediscover what
01:51:15.060 --> 01:51:17.479
it means to be Japanese or Korean. But ironically,
01:51:17.659 --> 01:51:20.819
Japan now has a new right-wing prime
01:51:20.819 --> 01:51:23.979
minister, and her attitude is completely the
01:51:23.979 --> 01:51:27.500
opposite. Her attitude is expansionistic, militaristic,
01:51:27.659 --> 01:51:31.079
projecting force out into the Pacific.
01:51:31.380 --> 01:51:34.579
Hey, what could go wrong with Japan projecting
01:51:34.579 --> 01:51:38.079
force out into the Pacific? And getting
01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:41.880
involved in needling China over Taiwan
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:45.720
and so on and sending international peacekeepers
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.819
to various imperialist projects around the
01:51:48.819 --> 01:51:51.260
world. Japan's doing the very opposite of what
01:51:51.260 --> 01:51:54.000
you're counseling. I don't think so because here's
01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:59.159
the thing. Nationalism is a big check out on low
01:51:59.159 --> 01:52:02.460
birth rates. The Japanese are over the last few
01:52:02.460 --> 01:52:06.760
decades have not been making babies. So then what
01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:10.300
do you do to make that happen? You tap into your
01:52:10.300 --> 01:52:12.520
history, you tap into your culture, you tap into
01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:14.899
the thing that made Japan what it is. They've
01:52:14.899 --> 01:52:16.899
had this problem, though, for a hundred years.
01:52:17.789 --> 01:52:20.010
Well, that was the end of World War II, and I
01:52:20.010 --> 01:52:21.510
think that what needs to happen, and this is
01:52:21.510 --> 01:52:23.069
the same thing I would tell the French and everybody
01:52:23.069 --> 01:52:27.170
else, you need to decide... I don't know
01:52:27.170 --> 01:52:30.789
how you can have a big family in a place where
01:52:30.789 --> 01:52:34.470
real estate is fundamentally unaffordable. People
01:52:34.470 --> 01:52:37.569
are living on top of each other in tiny, famously
01:52:37.569 --> 01:52:41.090
tiny homes and apartments. If people
01:52:41.090 --> 01:52:44.789
are living in totally close quarters, the last
01:52:44.789 --> 01:52:46.609
thing they want to do is introduce five more
01:52:46.609 --> 01:52:50.550
babies to the equation. That is 100% not true.
01:52:50.689 --> 01:52:52.390
Because what you're able to do is that you're
01:52:52.390 --> 01:52:54.289
able to go in, you can change the system. And
01:52:54.289 --> 01:52:57.909
if you need more land, then the one thing that
01:52:57.909 --> 01:53:01.489
humanity is famous for is looking around and
01:53:01.489 --> 01:53:03.390
saying, who has real estate that they're not
01:53:03.390 --> 01:53:06.470
using that I can take? You sound like a Zionist.
01:53:07.189 --> 01:53:13.279
Well, that's the human condition. Now, am I advocating
01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:16.939
that? No, because Japan would lose. They would
01:53:16.939 --> 01:53:19.960
get curb stomped. That being said, though, there
01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:23.140
are things that they're able to do. The fundamental
01:53:23.140 --> 01:53:25.399
problem with Japan and South Korea is that they
01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:28.939
are slaves to a system that exploits them for
01:53:28.939 --> 01:53:31.039
money that they can't take with them when they
01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:35.920
die. That's the problem. That's the issue. So
01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:42.329
what do you do? You change the system. Well,
01:53:42.409 --> 01:53:45.050
changing the, changing the Japanese are
01:53:45.050 --> 01:53:48.229
not good at changing their systems. They
01:53:48.229 --> 01:53:52.489
have not had, well, have they ever, they've
01:53:52.489 --> 01:53:55.149
never really had a revolution, right? Of course
01:53:55.149 --> 01:53:58.939
they did. Oh, hold on. Chet, you're still in
01:53:58.939 --> 01:54:02.159
history. Okay, so the Tokugawa Shogunate ruled
01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:08.399
Japan for 300 years. The Meiji Restoration was
01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:10.760
a revolution in every way, shape, and form. You
01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:14.000
don't think that's more of a foreign imperialist
01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:17.180
project? Oh, hell no. That was to prevent a foreign
01:54:17.180 --> 01:54:19.399
imperialist project. They saw the Europeans carving
01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:22.300
up the Chinese melon, and Meiji was like, okay,
01:54:22.420 --> 01:54:27.050
the samurai have... they are living in the 1300s.
01:54:27.050 --> 01:54:29.649
They've made Japan into a what. Am I going to
01:54:29.649 --> 01:54:32.170
do? I am going to completely rebuild
01:54:32.170 --> 01:54:35.560
society from the top down. To say that Japan has
01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:40.050
never had a revolution is insane. It
01:54:40.050 --> 01:54:42.170
hasn't had a revolution from in a Marxist sense
01:54:42.170 --> 01:54:45.149
and that was also what a hundred and that
01:54:45.149 --> 01:54:50.260
was almost 200 years ago. So well Marxism doesn't
01:54:50.260 --> 01:54:55.319
work. I'm talking about revolutions. Okay, so
01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:58.039
Robby, two questions, and we're getting toward
01:54:58.039 --> 01:54:59.800
the end of our two hours, so we definitely have
01:54:59.800 --> 01:55:03.199
to hit these. Kilroy for president. One, I'm
01:55:03.199 --> 01:55:05.319
considering going back to church. Any recommendations
01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:08.420
on handling Zionism in many Baptist churches?
01:55:08.899 --> 01:55:11.319
Also, any ideas for ministering to my partner?
01:55:11.659 --> 01:55:15.819
She's a non-practicing Catholic. The first question
01:55:15.819 --> 01:55:18.140
is going to be easier of the two to answer. Zionism
01:55:18.140 --> 01:55:20.539
is just going to be baked into any kind, especially
01:55:20.539 --> 01:55:23.880
of a Baptist church. The best advice I can give
01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:25.859
you is look for an independent church. That's
01:55:25.859 --> 01:55:30.460
not a part of any kind of a larger denomination,
01:55:30.539 --> 01:55:32.659
avoid the Southern Baptists. Find yourself
01:55:32.659 --> 01:55:36.159
a small, local, independent church. Most likely
01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:39.979
they're going to be Zionist, especially if they're
01:55:39.979 --> 01:55:42.800
raised in dispensationalism and Schofieldism.
01:55:43.539 --> 01:55:45.039
That's just to be part of it. It's just baked
01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:48.279
in. Accept it for what it is. But so long as
01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:51.659
they are faithful to the principles of the faith,
01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:56.520
how you get saved, that's what matters. As far
01:55:56.520 --> 01:56:01.239
as your partner goes, sit down with her, read
01:56:01.239 --> 01:56:03.920
the Bible with her. Say, hey, I want to do these.
01:56:04.260 --> 01:56:06.659
I'd like to do a Bible study. I would recommend
01:56:06.659 --> 01:56:09.319
that you start in the book of John, the Gospel
01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:12.479
of John, and then move into Romans. Those are
01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:16.140
easy books to read. Also, they make what salvation
01:56:16.140 --> 01:56:21.020
is incredibly plain. It's putting your faith
01:56:21.020 --> 01:56:27.260
in Christ. Paul answers the question, what must
01:56:27.260 --> 01:56:29.380
I do to be saved? Believe the Lord Jesus Christ
01:56:29.380 --> 01:56:32.239
is God. Ask Him to forgive your sins. That's
01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:34.279
it. You don't need a pope. You don't need a dude
01:56:34.279 --> 01:56:37.119
in a dress. You don't have to go and pay 20 Hail
01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:41.909
Marys. Jesus paid the price. And John and Romans
01:56:41.909 --> 01:56:44.529
put together, made that hand and glove, and it's
01:56:44.529 --> 01:56:46.949
very easy to read. A moron like me can understand
01:56:46.949 --> 01:56:49.250
it. So your partner will have no problems at
01:56:49.250 --> 01:56:56.539
all. Okay. All right. So I guess we're wrapping
01:56:56.539 --> 01:56:58.880
it up. Let's take a look and see one last round.
01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:01.140
Take a look and see what other questions have
01:57:01.140 --> 01:57:04.800
come in. Anything else we should hit before we
01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:10.359
get out of here? Marie Laurel says, Le Pen represents
01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:14.500
Germany not France. I've heard that take. Oh
01:57:14.500 --> 01:57:17.159
yeah, Joe Consumer. Thank you very much for the
01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:21.239
ten dollars. Stick it, stick to it boys. We
01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:26.720
will try. We need more of that. Philip Blair
01:57:26.720 --> 01:57:29.619
Robby Marxism works so well in Cuba that the
01:57:29.619 --> 01:57:35.300
US is blockading them. Well, I guess it just depends
01:57:35.300 --> 01:57:37.880
right because Cuba is an interesting test case
01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:40.060
because it never had a chance to even try. But no, China was, and I use that word
01:57:44.199 --> 01:57:47.979
deliberately, it was a communist state. I argue
01:57:47.979 --> 01:57:50.300
now it's more, it's actually a fascist state where
01:57:50.300 --> 01:57:53.359
you have a free market but it's
01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:58.359
dominated by the ruling class. So China's
01:57:58.359 --> 01:58:01.340
not communist. China's markets are always dominated
01:58:01.340 --> 01:58:05.859
by the ruling class. But no, because the oligarchs,
01:58:05.859 --> 01:58:08.159
for example, here, Elon Musk and his ilk
01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:10.680
run the American government. Whereas in China,
01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:13.100
the government will put someone like him to death.
01:58:13.539 --> 01:58:15.699
That's the difference. In China, you can't change
01:58:15.699 --> 01:58:18.819
the party, but you can change the system. In
01:58:18.819 --> 01:58:21.840
the West, you can change the party, but you can't
01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:24.409
change the system. That's the fundamental difference
01:58:24.409 --> 01:58:28.449
between the two. Cuba, I just don't see how.
01:58:30.060 --> 01:58:33.739
I just don't see how, even if it wasn't strangled,
01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:35.140
how it would work because it doesn't have the
01:58:35.140 --> 01:58:36.979
resources to be a communist state. Neither does
01:58:36.979 --> 01:58:39.640
Japan. You would have to be capitalistic to expand.
01:58:39.939 --> 01:58:42.380
You would have to exploit wealth somewhere else
01:58:42.380 --> 01:58:44.060
because you don't have any resources of your
01:58:44.060 --> 01:58:48.729
own. All right. And with that, I think we're
01:58:48.729 --> 01:58:51.729
going to call it a two hours. Thanks for tuning
01:58:51.729 --> 01:58:53.909
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Robby, thanks very much for filling in for Jamarl.
01:59:47.289 --> 01:59:49.789
No, of course. And I'll try to get a host tomorrow.
01:59:50.170 --> 01:59:52.630
If I can't, you'll be stuck with me again. And
01:59:52.630 --> 01:59:55.329
for the record, personally, if I was, if I had
01:59:55.329 --> 01:59:57.029
to pick a government system, I think I would
01:59:57.029 --> 02:00:01.800
pick the Chinese model because the state controls
02:00:01.800 --> 02:00:05.600
the resources and they don't allow just the rampant
02:00:05.600 --> 02:00:10.979
the exploitation of the people. All right, Robby
02:00:10.979 --> 02:00:13.500
gets the last word. All right. See you tomorrow,
02:00:13.579 --> 02:00:15.659
Robby. All right, buddy. Bye-bye. Bye.