Whiskers, Whimsy, and Wisdom (with Shannon McGrann)

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Hi guys, and welcome back to Daniel Does DFW, where we talk about everything theater.
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I am, daniel right?
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I hope so.
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Maybe we'll see.
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We're about to find out.
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I am super excited because we have our next guest and it's one of my favorite people and it's actually one of our first straight actors.
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Yes, you are correct, everybody before this was gay Maybe not, but no One of my favorite straight actors but they have done musicals.
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They just don't like to talk about them, so I'm going to make them talk about it today.
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Today on the show, we have one of my favorite people in the white world, shannon McGregor.
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Thanks, shannon, for being here today.
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Thank you yes.
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I had to drag her here you did To be on the show, because the very first thing you told me was I don't want to sing, no, and I know the history.
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You don't want to hear me.
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That is so incorrect.
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Can I tell you everybody that I've talked to, because your two friends, mary grim and steve morris, said you know, shannon can actually sing, really really well.
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No, I'm like the 80 annie it's okay if it's notes are weird or you know.
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Not there that?
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no, because, steve, I'm a good enough actor that I can pull off a song, but I am not a good enough singer nowadays, especially because there's so much, it's so different than it is.
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Yes, I would agree with that and we'll talk about how it's different a little bit.
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But I want to back up a little bit and talk about how we got to know each other and how I even know you.
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Period, my first meeting with you was actually I don't know if you even remember this, because it was so quick was a halloween party at mary's yes, yeah, yeah, mary through that small halloween party and that's actually where I met steve as well.
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Oh, I didn't even realize it was him because he was wearing like a gorilla mask or something.
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I hope that was him.
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No, no, it was.
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Yeah, he was wearing some sort of mask, I don't remember.
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Yes, and um, I had already seen you in a show.
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No, you had just come off of doing, um, a doll's house part two, okay, and I was just in awe the whole time that you were there that I was nervous to even talk to you and I was like this is a lady that everybody's been talking and I think you had just come off of like, your two time award with like Dallas or DFW like best actress something like that.
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Do you have the trophies?
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at your house?
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They don't give trophies they don't get, or money.
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No, money no.
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Well, you heard it, here there's no money in acting.
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No, God no.
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No, yeah, you heard it here.
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There's no money in acting.
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No, god, no, no, uh.
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Yeah, I think you had won like two consecutive years in a row.
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I'm not like that.
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Yeah, best actress in dfw.
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And I was like, sorry, I love it, no, um.
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And so I was like, oh, my goodness, this person is like the top act.
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I really was not in the theater world at all I really, I didn't know that at all.
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Yeah, I was only in like music stuff, classical music, because I was in school with mary and we were both on the music track, not the theater track.
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And then, um, I think we met multiple other times with that and then I started dog sitting for mary and you were going out of town and you needed a cat sitter for your cats and Rosie yes, favorite cat, and I think I had never really been close to cats until I met Rosie Really yes.
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Until Rosie scared the bejesus out of me.
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Do tell Daniel, yes, I will, because I remember all of the feelings that day.
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Shannon was out of town and it was late in the evening, probably like nine or so, and I just remember I'm looking all around for Rosie throughout the house, because Rosie is usually, you know, in bed or just whatever.
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Cats or ghosts?
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Yes, yes, and so I'm looking all around and I hear meowing and I look up and Rosie is above the entryway, like near the entrance.
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You have those stairs that go up and then you kind of have like a landing.
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Yeah, that stupid landing.
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We don't know what to do with.
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And Rosie is up there.
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And I'm'm like rosie, what are you doing?
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And just jumps, dives down.
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Yes, she's never now.
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I've never I've worried about that, but she's never done it well, yeah, while you were home, she waited until we left yes, and so I called you and I was like I don't know what's wrong.
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I don't think she's walking okay and like because she had gone into the closet.
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And in my head I'm like that's what pets?
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Do they go away from people to die on their own?
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she's fine yeah, no, she has a slight skin condition, but that's nothing to do with that all because of the fall.
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So and I just remember that moment being like oh my gosh, I killed Shannon McGrain's cat, the number one actress in TW.
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I am going to be blacklisted for the rest of my life and never going to be able to work in theater again.
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None of that is true.
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And yeah, look at me, nobody hires me.
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That's not true.
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I think it's because of you, shannon that's not true.
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It's because of rosie daniel's in something right now I am, yeah, as we're taping this right now.
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We just talked about it with mary's episode as well, but yeah, and sweeney todd so thank goodness um, I pushed rosie off that landing.
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You pushed her.
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I mean she jumped.
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I couldn't even get up there if I tried, I know.
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I have tried.
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Have you tried it's scarier than you think.
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You think you're going to.
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Oh, I can just like ease my way out there because I wanted to hang something up there, because it's a stupid space, what do you put there?
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And then I got about two feet over and I was like no, I can't do it.
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I was right up all backwards.
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Oh my God.
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Well, and it feels it's like a thin length from what I remember, I think.
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Does it connect?
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It looks not as wide From standing on the floor it doesn't look as wide as it is, but it's like you know, good, two feet, yeah, I know, but it's, you know, when you're a grown-up and you think you have responsibilities, you probably shouldn't be doing that.
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That's very, very true.
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Um, okay, so that's our history and how I got to know shannon.
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You wonderful shannon mcgrann.
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I want to know a little bit more about yours.
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I know that you really weren't even interested in theater yourself, correct?
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well, I mean, my whole family is interested in theater.
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But I grew up watching my sister, erin, act, and my aunt is also an actress my father's sister and I used to.
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Just I don't know how I got away with it, but I would go to her rehearsals at high school and I would just hang out with my sister Erin, who's six years older than me, and just watch rehearsals.
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I kind of became a mascot sort of.
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And then I went to the same high school and I ended up having the same drama teacher, jan Trunk.
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She's amazing and wonderful, and she really just lit a fire in me and just made me believe in myself in a way that no one, no one in my life, had made me feel so.
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And then the only way that I could get through college was on a scholarship and I happened to get a full ride to Wesleyan so Texas Wesleyan, so in theater, and that's just kind of propelled me forward.
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And then suddenly I didn't know how to do anything except act.
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So I um, have you done other things?
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yes, I've always had, up until.
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I had my son I always had a full-time job okay, um, well, up until right before having my son, I always had a full-time job, you know, just doing whatever, and I've always had a commercial not always, but out of college I got a commercial agent and juggling all of those, you know, things is very difficult and you know, fortunately I can just do this now, but it's because I have a spouse who helps me out when I'm not making any money.
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Yeah, and I think that that's definitely a good point to make.
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Right, If you have someone that can help you out, that's so helpful, but it is hard sometimes right, especially in our day, peace-mealing everything together.
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You know, I mean contract to contract.
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Excuse me, it's difficult.
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I'm a person who seeks security, and so that's why I always had a full-time job.
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You know, I need my insurance and it's difficult to keep your insurance with Actors' Equity because you have to work so consistently to keep your insurance with Actors' Equity because you have to work so consistently.
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And so I would always have another job that had my insurance and I could pay my rent and I could pay my car payment and you know things like that.
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And on top of it, at one point when I met my husband, I had three jobs Did this acting, and I waited tables and I had a full-time job.
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So, you know you gotta work hard.
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I know I feel that and I really do applaud that, just because I tried to live on my passion right.
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I did voice lessons full-time as a contractor with a school and it almost made me like hate my passion at the same time.
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Just because you have to put all this work into even surviving.
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And so for me, it was do you know what?
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Let me secure a full-time job that allows me to also live out my passion.
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Can you talk to my son?
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He's a music major and I mean I want him to follow his passion.
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But it's difficult, it really is, and but I mean as a teacher myself, right, because I still do teach lessons on the side I want my students to go for it.
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Yeah absolutely, because that's what you want and that's what you want to do.
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But sometimes we really do have to put things in perspective and say, okay, what can I do within my means though?
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Yeah, exactly, and I think that was a turning point for me.
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I think it was when I was 30, when I was finally like, oh, I'm going to need to do something full time.
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Yeah, because it really was waiting tables in addition to teaching lessons, and so and if you're okay with that, that's fantastic.
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You know, I mean, if some people are up for that, I like stability.
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And so I just want to know that things are going to happen a certain way.
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I don't fit into the world of acting very well.
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I'm, I'm, I'm kind of a I like things in their place, but I'm really creative and I just gives me great anxiety.
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No, and I understand that Well, and I get you that I like stability, but I also like to be off my feet.
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You, you.
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So that's where I was like, oh, Well see, I get that on stage.
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Yeah, I get to.
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Be off your feet on stage With your legs up in the air.
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I don't know if I've seen you in a show like that.
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I've done plenty of that, were you really?
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Oh, do you know what?
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One of my favorite shows that I did want to bring up today, where you kind of had one of those moments where you had to be that sexy person Zoom in on that face.
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When we edit that Was Hand to God I loved it yeah.
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I loved you in Hand to God, thank you.
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And it was just directed so well.
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It was at Water Tower, correct, directed so well.
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And Parker Parker's amazing, so great.
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I think everything that Parker does, he just has these nuances and it's even just in the face, but the way that the two of you work together as mother and son, and then the way that you played with, was it the pastor?
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Probably Garrett Storms, not the pastor, but Timothy.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Oh, I remember when you came to see that Y'all came to a dress rehearsal.
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We did.
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Yes, just so, and I had no idea what that show was about at all.
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Had done no research at all.
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And if you get a chance to see Hand to God, go see it.
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Had you done research on that show at all?
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And if you get a chance to see Hand to God, go see it.
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I had you done research on that show at all.
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Well, we just did our table work.
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I mean, you know, the playwright came to see the show and he was very pleased with it.
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Wonderful.
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Would you say that that's one of your favorite roles, or which one?
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Yeah, I mean, that was one of my favorite plays.
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One of my favorite roles is definitely um well, I love doing Nora in Adult's House Part II.
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I feel really fortunate to have just been able to do that.
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Would you do that role again?
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Yeah, absolutely, I would, under the right circumstances.
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But I love Della from the Cake.
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That's one of my favorite roles and I would just do that over and over and over again.
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But my favorite that I've ever done and I've done it three times is the Wicked witch of the west in the wizard of oz.
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It's, it's, it's the best.
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I love children's theater.
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It is yeah it's very we'll talk about that a little bit later, but you did a lot of children's theater as well, but we're going to take a small little break because since you brought up, uh, della from the cake, we're actually gonna you going to give us a little preview of that here shortly.
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Um, so we're going to step over and have Shannon do some monologuing for us.
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See you in a bit.
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See, what you have to do is really truly follow the directions.
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That's what people don't understand People watching the baking shows and they say to themselves oh, I can do that, I am going to bake a cake from scratch.
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I am going to prove to myself that I am a person who is capable of such a thing.
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So they go out, they get all the ingredients, they bring them all home, they set them on the counter.
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First mistake they make skimping Skimping on milk, skimping on butter.
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They try and use tofu butter or whatever Milk made out of nuts.
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What is this world?
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You got to get the real stuff, and I don't mean that organic, this or that stuff.
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I don't care whether or not your eggs were ever caged, whether they ever went to the movies.
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We're talking fat buddy, full fat.
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You gotta.
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Why go to Rome if you're not gonna eat the pasta?
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Why go to France if you're not gonna eat the baguettes?
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Second mistake they read in the cookbook Whisk the wet ingredients together for three minutes and fold in the dry ingredients in quarter parts.
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And they think to themselves now I don't really have to do all that, do I?
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That's just a suggestion.
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I can just mix it all together, toss it in an ungreased pan at 350, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
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Hope for the best.
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Well, I say to those people you are wrong.
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If you're not going to give your time and your worship to directions that have been crafted by trial and error, then you might as well do a darn cake from a box which tastes like scotch tape dipped in Splenda.
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If you're asking, if you want to make it from scratch, then you got to follow the directions.
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That's the only way you'll get that taste.
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It's the taste of time and obedience.
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All the scientists in the world could sit in a lab for eternity and never recreate it.
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So if you want results, if you want to bake a cake that you could take a nap in, that you want to crawl inside of that you would die for, you must follow the directions.
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I didn't do idea you could act, can't?
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That was so good.
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I was almost emotional.
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Yeah, that was yeah, the vapors, no.
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So you've actually played that role twice now.
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One time was at Uptown Players and the other time was at Theater Arlington.
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Both, I saw both of them you did.
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Yes, I remember when I went to go see the one at Uptown Players, it was me, mary, steve and Kevin the set designer.
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And you were like halfway into the show and Mary just leans back and she goes.
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She is channeling her mother.
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I was actually channeling my mother's mother.
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My mother is much meaner, or she was but my nanny was a lot like Della actually.
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You know somebody that's.
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She was taught certain things so that's what she believes.
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Taught certain things, so that's what she believes and and doesn't realize she needs to change what she believes until she's confronted with something.
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personally, yeah, I will say crisis of conscience and I think that's what I loved so much about that show was that especially at Theatre Arlington where it's a conservative group of people they typically go see shows A few people walk out.
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I was going to say I think every show I talked with the front of house and they said pretty much every show somebody walked out.
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That's so awful, which I don't think.
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I doubt.
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Many people walked out at Uptown.
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You know what you're walking into, right.
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No, nobody walked out.
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It's not even a show.
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You know it's just I think when people get confronted by things that they don't agree with, they want to escape that.
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And the show it's funny.
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It seems like this light little show but everybody in it has a moment where they have to think about who they are and how they fit in the world with each other, and it all is from different directions, everybody is from different directions and I think people in the audience maybe sometimes it makes them feel uncomfortable.
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They hear a show called the Cake and they think they're coming to see a baker.
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You know this silly little baker who's going to make some cakes and she does that and she is silly.
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But there's a lot of deeper things in it and I just I think it's lovely, I think the message in it is lovely and there are so many messages in it for everyone yeah, I, it was very, like you said, deep and thought-provoking.
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But I would say that most of the shows that I've seen you in you you choose well, thank you where I I just wait to be chosen, I just get lucky sometimes yeah, because even in the show that I saw you in at Stage West, where you played like the Senator's wife, Church and State.
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Such a great show, so wonderful, that whole cast was really great Because even the assistant I thought they were phenomenal In that role Even the husband role yeah, so great.
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But I just your character and the journey that your character had to make as well in that show yeah, I like playing people who are very different than me because it I can different from the way that I feel about life.
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Um, I like being the mean person.
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I I really want people to be kind to each other, but I really enjoy playing the bad person that has to make a switch around or doesn't make a switch around, because it's fun to explore things like that.
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Yeah no, I think Safely.
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Are you?
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Do you ever take the opportunity to maybe go to theaters and be like, hey, I want to do this or anything like that?
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No, I would never.
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I mean, you know, the only person I would do that with is maybe Steve Morris here at Theater Arlington, because I've known him since I was 22 years old and we're just really good friends and so I might put a bug in his ear, but I just never would think to ask someone please produce me, Please produce me.
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Was that a real request?
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Someone produce me, because now you've been.
00:21:00.023 --> 00:21:02.771
So you said you've known Steve since you were 22.
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But you really have been working since you were acting, since you were how old?
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Junior high, wow, but you've been an equity member since you were 26.
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Yes, so that's 30 years 31.
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And you got that, which we just well, not just because Mary's episode was almost two months ago now.
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Oh my gosh, I know right, but you and Mary both did CASA.
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Is that?
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where you got your equity card.
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Was it at that time or you already had?
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it.
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No, I got it before that and I shouldn't have taken it when I took it.
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Really.
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Because I looked 14 and I was 26.
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You know, I could still play teenagers.
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I still can play teenagers 100% yes and um, it was much different.
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It was much different back then in the fact that there were very few equity houses, there are very few contracts available.
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Young women were all over the place ready to work and not, you know, under an equity contract, and so I didn't.
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After I got my equity card, I don't think I worked for almost two years and maybe I, you know maybe one show in there, but like it was hard so, and then I started, you know, kind of getting getting more work that way, but it's just, it's very difficult at a young age.
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Here Now, if you're going to New York or Chicago, absolutely, but here it's just that we just don't have enough contracts to go around, and if they can find somebody else that can, you know, do the job it sounds so negative, but I'm kind of an Eeyore They'll choose them because they might have to save their contract for something specific, like a guy, like a man or someone who can juggle.
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You know, I mean that might be like, oh, we've got to have this character that has to be able to juggle.
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Well, the only person I know who can juggle is this equity actor.
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So we've got to have this character that has to be able to juggle.
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Well, the only person I know who can juggle is this Equity actor, so we've got to give it to him.
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I'm just making shit up.
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No, I know you've worked a lot at Stage West.
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Now you're getting to work again at Theatre Arlington, now that Theatre Arlington is Equity.
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Have you done stuff at Outtown Players?
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Have you done stuff other places in the area?
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Oh, water Tower was where you were.
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Water Tower, gosh.
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Now see, you put me on the spot and I'm not going to be able to.
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I've worked at the theaters Dallas Theater Center oh wonderful, I did Christmas Carol there for four years.
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That's right.
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Don't you have a funny story about what happened?
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Now I might be mixing two parts of it together, but that's fine.
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It makes it a funnier story.
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We were still at the Kalita.
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We were in the Kalita Humphreys Theater and they used the turntable and we had this song called Wasail and Denise Lee was in this.
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She was a Christmas present and she was singing the song and in the middle of the stage and we were dancing around and running Sorry you said she was Christmas present, as in the character I was imagining, denise Lee as the actual Christmas present.
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She is a Christmas present Just a box coming out.
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She is a Christmas present to all of us.
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Yes, okay, continue.
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So the revolve.
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The turntable is turning and we're dancing.
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She is a Christmas present to all of us.
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Yes, okay, continue dancing.
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The turntable is turning and we're dancing and singing and kids are running across the stage and people are greeting each other and like hello, what's up, and waltzing and stuff like that, and it's going at a nice clip, the turntable, but somehow the sound sped up because we were singing to tracks and so the tracks were going faster and so we had to sing faster, which made us dance faster, run faster, and we were just all looking.
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You know that lovely moment on stage when everything is going wrong and you're having the time of your life with your fellow actors, but that look, this is awful, but it's so great.
00:25:28.537 --> 00:26:20.529
And I think it was that same night that the fire alarm went off, because Joel Farrell likes fog, he loves fog, and there was so much fog in the redemption scene with Scrooge Robert Langdon Lloyd, one of the gentlest, most wonderful humans on the planet, was our Scrooge, and he was, you know, like broken down on the grave and of himself, our scrooge, and, um, he was, you know, like broken down on the grave and of himself, of scrooge and the fire alarm goes off and we all have to leave you know in our get-ups and go stand out on the um outside with all the patrons just all next to each other just wait, who did you say you enjoying the show?
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I like that part where.
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And so then we get cleared to go back in and he has to go back to the grave and lean over it and and startle up again.
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And he's a trooper and he did it and it was.
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It's a story to tell.
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Oh my gosh, I actually just heard a story not too long ago Carousel, because you know how the main guy dies in the first act.
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Yeah.
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And so he was on the floor.
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Joshua Henry, is that his name?
00:26:50.795 --> 00:26:51.537
Yes, joshua Henry.
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He was on the floor, dead already, and the actress is crying over him.
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Fire alarms go off, and so it rises from.
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Yeah, so they.
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They were like it's not an emergency where we need to clear the theater, but we do have to do a hold.
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And so they were so up, far up, where they couldn't even close the curtain, so he had to get up and go, die by and go and just walk out, and then it was just, and so when it came back, they opened the curtain and, uh, I think it was jesse mueller who's over him, and she said that he just walked out and just went and just went back to die.
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And I was like, I guess that's what we have to do, right?
00:27:34.227 --> 00:27:40.429
I can't imagine just having to get back in that moment yeah of where you were, I mean, wherever he was dead.
00:27:41.491 --> 00:28:02.775
Um, so, speaking of acting as someone else, right, that's something that I do want to talk about, because I feel like, um, one thing that we really don't talk about enough in our theater realm, and something that you've told me about, is just that constant anxiety, right, of that feeling of every actor feels like they need to be an extrovert.
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And are you an extrovert?
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no, I mean I may seem like that to people, but that and I am with people that I'm close to, you know, friends with or in the right scenario, but I would.
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I'm very much a homebody, introvert.
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I don't, I don't like, I don't even really like to go to parties because I'm very anxious.
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Can you tell I'm an anxious person?
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There's medication for it and I take it.
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It's just life makes me anxious, you know, and constant approval, needing constant approval, makes me anxious.
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So I mean, sometimes it's just easier for me to shut down.
00:28:55.773 --> 00:28:56.736
but when I'm on stage, I'm all good.
00:28:56.756 --> 00:29:01.269
Yeah, it's easier to be someone else than it is yourself, and almost to the point that.
00:29:01.269 --> 00:29:04.215
Do you feel that you put on a persona, even as yourself Sometimes?
00:29:04.215 --> 00:29:04.938
Yeah, wow.
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Stare into the camera.
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I'm not.
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I swear, this is me.
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No, this is.
00:29:12.325 --> 00:29:16.571
Sadly, this is all me this is authentic.
00:29:20.944 --> 00:29:22.230
Guys, I'm excited about these clips that we have.
00:29:22.230 --> 00:29:24.700
I'm just zooming in on shannon because we have so much tiktok.
00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:26.005
Oh wait, how do I look?
00:29:26.005 --> 00:29:33.351
Um, but no, and that's something that I did want to bring to light, because I feel like we don't talk about it enough.
00:29:33.351 --> 00:29:46.413
Everybody's like oh, I'm so comfortable, I'm so confident I'm so real instagram polish, I feel so accomplished in our realm, but you still have that feeling of not being worthy really, Absolutely.
00:29:46.413 --> 00:29:54.272
It's called childhood trauma that I carry Well we don't have enough time.
00:29:54.292 --> 00:29:57.258
Yeah, is this my therapy session Is my hour up.
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Just you.
00:30:01.210 --> 00:30:14.634
Yes, actually, what I wanted to talk about was no, but I again you know I do feel like you are constantly booked and blessed.
00:30:14.634 --> 00:30:17.301
I have been, but there have been times.
00:30:19.365 --> 00:30:23.275
Well, in the time that I've you know seen DFW Theater go yeah, just take my foot around.
00:30:23.295 --> 00:30:24.156
Do you want to cut it off for you?
00:30:24.156 --> 00:30:25.326
Yes, you can have a date.
00:30:25.326 --> 00:30:32.068
You can have a daniel's foot, um, so I think that that's something that I wanted to bring to light.
00:30:32.068 --> 00:30:43.273
You know that like even someone like shannon mcgrann, you know, feel, yes, being shannon, the Shannon McGrann um has feelings like seeing constantly, um, like that.
00:30:43.273 --> 00:30:48.554
So, um, we all have feelings like that, like, oh my gosh, I get out there and I'm like what words am I supposed to say?
00:30:48.554 --> 00:30:49.115
What am I?
00:30:49.164 --> 00:30:49.665
supposed to do?
00:30:49.665 --> 00:30:51.588
Oh yeah, Um yeah.
00:30:51.868 --> 00:30:53.932
But you, you do it seamlessly.
00:30:53.932 --> 00:30:57.519
So, um, but we're going to go to take a small little break.
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.422
Uh, we're going to go ahead and take a small little break.
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We're going to play a game with Shannon.
00:31:01.105 --> 00:31:06.936
I know, speaking of anxious, I didn't tell her we were playing a game, so all the more exciting.
00:31:06.936 --> 00:31:10.402
But we'll be right back.
00:31:10.402 --> 00:31:14.032
Shannon, what, shannon McGrath, what?
00:31:14.032 --> 00:31:14.814
Thank you for being on.
00:31:14.814 --> 00:31:15.836
Dino Does DFW.
00:31:15.836 --> 00:31:16.558
I'm so scared, game show.
00:31:16.558 --> 00:31:17.741
I'm so scared, game show.
00:31:17.741 --> 00:31:23.269
I'm so scared we need, I need insert music here.
00:31:23.269 --> 00:31:25.893
So we're going to play.
00:31:25.893 --> 00:31:26.834
Same line, different meaning.
00:31:26.834 --> 00:31:27.734
Okay, all right.
00:31:27.734 --> 00:31:30.337
So I'm going to give you a famous movie line.
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We've picked the top three favorites.
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Okay, all right.
00:31:33.622 --> 00:31:38.234
And I have five emotions For each one.
00:31:38.234 --> 00:31:38.957
Yes, for each one.
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God, this is going to take a long time.
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Fuck you too.
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Fuck my drag Goodness.
00:31:47.357 --> 00:31:54.829
So what we'll do is I will give you the line, then I will give you the emotion.
00:31:54.829 --> 00:31:56.694
It will take like a two minute, two minute.
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Wow.
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It will take a long time.
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Just a two beat pause and then, if you can give it to me.
00:32:03.229 --> 00:32:08.530
Okay, that was a two beat pause.
00:32:08.951 --> 00:32:09.211
No.
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Edit that out.
00:32:10.753 --> 00:32:15.949
So yes, all right, your first line.
00:32:16.109 --> 00:32:16.330
Yes.
00:32:16.711 --> 00:32:20.191
Okay, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
00:32:20.191 --> 00:32:21.855
So if you just want to say it, normal Shannon.
00:32:22.884 --> 00:32:24.248
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
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Energetic.
00:32:26.574 --> 00:32:32.766
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn Proud.
00:32:32.766 --> 00:32:34.933
Oh, what does that?
00:32:34.933 --> 00:32:39.589
Even Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
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Disgusted.
00:32:43.365 --> 00:32:46.553
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
00:32:48.036 --> 00:32:48.678
Confused.
00:32:55.726 --> 00:33:03.751
Frankly, my dear, I don't I I don't give a damn, you had me convinced you were confused I was like does she know the line?
00:33:03.811 --> 00:33:17.029
I am confused and angry I live angry, okay, so it sounds the same as everything else sounds exactly like yours, the original.
00:33:17.029 --> 00:33:18.273
We can just cut the first one.
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Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
00:33:22.125 --> 00:33:22.989
Did you see the teeth?
00:33:22.989 --> 00:33:24.454
It was all in the Did I spit?
00:33:24.684 --> 00:33:25.146
No it was a.
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All right Line number two.
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Okay.
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Love means never having to say you're sorry.
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That's not true, I'm just kidding.
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Say it as Shannon McGran.
00:33:41.925 --> 00:33:43.710
Love means never having to say you're sorry.
00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:46.596
That's sweet.
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Happy.
00:33:48.105 --> 00:33:51.069
Love means never having to say you're sorry, ashamed.
00:33:51.069 --> 00:34:12.655
Oh, ashamed oh, I know so much about shame, I can't stop laughing.
00:34:12.655 --> 00:34:13.617
Um, um.
00:34:13.617 --> 00:34:24.163
Love means never having to say cut that one, let's use something else next.
00:34:25.670 --> 00:34:40.376
Hysterical love means never having to say I'm sorry, that's my favorite one um jealous love means never having to say you're sorry, that's good Bored.
00:34:46.606 --> 00:34:48.393
Love means never having to say you're sorry.
00:34:48.393 --> 00:34:50.708
Did you hear the words?
00:34:50.849 --> 00:34:52.755
Yeah, it was good, all right.
00:34:53.485 --> 00:34:56.411
See, I'm a great actress, just fire me already.
00:34:56.411 --> 00:34:58.983
I mean, you've seen my range, it's phenomenal.
00:35:02.811 --> 00:35:05.074
next is there more there's one more, the last one.
00:35:05.856 --> 00:35:12.155
all right, mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up all right as Shannon the grand all right, mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.
00:35:12.155 --> 00:35:13.358
Sobbing.
00:35:13.358 --> 00:35:17.835
Mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.
00:35:17.835 --> 00:35:21.010
Is this supposed to be real?
00:35:21.010 --> 00:35:24.512
Like am I supposed to be really active?
00:35:27.597 --> 00:35:28.259
Impatient.
00:35:30.146 --> 00:35:32.331
All right, mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.
00:35:32.331 --> 00:35:35.358
Exhausted.
00:35:35.358 --> 00:35:38.088
This is just.
00:35:38.088 --> 00:35:41.456
This is like playing with my kid, daniel Love it.
00:35:41.456 --> 00:35:47.657
All right, mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up Insecure.
00:35:47.657 --> 00:35:54.956
Mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.
00:35:54.956 --> 00:35:57.652
I said I'm ready for my close-up.
00:35:58.846 --> 00:36:00.873
And can you give us your best, norma Desmond.
00:36:01.585 --> 00:36:02.329
Oh, I don't know.
00:36:02.329 --> 00:36:10.994
All right, Mr DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.
00:36:10.994 --> 00:36:16.213
Did my eyebrows move because I've had a little Botox?
00:36:20.045 --> 00:36:22.231
We're going to tally up the scores and see how she did.
00:36:22.231 --> 00:36:22.672
Did I win?
00:36:22.672 --> 00:36:23.795
We're going to see.
00:36:23.795 --> 00:36:28.347
I'm sorry to tell you that you lost the game.
00:36:28.347 --> 00:36:38.668
No, speaking of losses.
00:36:38.969 --> 00:36:40.451
Yes, wait um.
00:36:42.916 --> 00:36:51.873
Yes, we're no longer friends um, so, um, I won't talk to you for a year, okay um, no, uh, tell me about, did you?
00:36:51.873 --> 00:36:54.454
Have you ever?
00:36:54.454 --> 00:36:56.458
Um, no, uh, tell me about.
00:36:56.458 --> 00:36:57.778
Did you have you ever?
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This may be shocking to you.
00:37:02.605 --> 00:37:03.365
Have you ever lost out on a role or?
00:37:03.786 --> 00:37:04.648
lost out, have you really?
00:37:04.648 --> 00:37:06.150
Are you kidding me?
00:37:06.150 --> 00:37:11.257
I'm just saying Listen, I feel like everything you auditioned for they're like Shannon McGran.
00:37:11.257 --> 00:37:13.679
No, really no.
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.507
Has there ever been an audition that you've?
00:37:19.588 --> 00:37:20.588
bombed maybe or haven't felt good about that.
00:37:20.670 --> 00:37:22.932
You can talk about um.
00:37:22.932 --> 00:37:30.659
I've bombed a lot of them, but one that just sticks in my head is it was at stage west and it was well, there were lots.
00:37:30.659 --> 00:37:50.224
When I moved to california for a little bit, when my husband took a job there and I bombed a lot there because I just had no confidence and but At stage was they were doing Into the Breaches, which is a great show, and all the people that should have been in it were in it.
00:37:50.224 --> 00:38:09.041
My audition was for I didn't, I don't remember the director's name, but I had never met her before and the part was kind of this pompous, you know, aging actress who, um, just you know, was very much in charge of the situation and I thought, oh, this is in my wheelhouse, I can do this.
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I don't know what I was thinking.
00:38:12.389 --> 00:38:21.440
I ended up being um mora from schitt's creek and it was yeah, it was awful.
00:38:21.579 --> 00:38:46.146
I I just and it was my callback and I grabbed dana schultes as I was leaving because I had just finished a I had a commercial shoot that day and then I came over to stage west and I changed clothes and I got on there and I just whipped it out and I grabbed her on the way out and I said I can't, I don't know what happened in there she goes.
00:38:46.146 --> 00:38:47.570
We all have bad days.
00:38:47.570 --> 00:38:50.918
We all have bad days and I was like I was mortified.
00:38:50.918 --> 00:38:54.992
I mean it doesn't sound like much, but it was like it was horrible.
00:38:54.992 --> 00:39:04.291
I mean you just know, when you walk out of the room you're like who the hell was that Moira would come into my body?
00:39:04.291 --> 00:39:06.313
Yeah, she did, and not even good Moira.
00:39:09.492 --> 00:39:09.914
I love her.
00:39:09.914 --> 00:39:13.521
I think that you could play Moira, though I think you could do something.
00:39:13.724 --> 00:39:14.809
Well, not in that show.
00:39:15.567 --> 00:39:16.168
Not there.
00:39:16.168 --> 00:39:17.733
Yes, I think you're right, not there.
00:39:17.733 --> 00:39:30.117
You mentioned commercials, so I do want to talk about some of your other, not just theater work, but other things you've done as well, because I know you've done film, commercials, tv, stuff like that.
00:39:30.117 --> 00:39:44.791
I'm going to take it all the way back to Barney, because I know that you've done Barney, all back to Barney, because I know that you've done Barney way back in the day uh, you did a specific you did.
00:39:44.931 --> 00:39:46.393
Was it two movies they?
00:39:46.393 --> 00:39:49.259
They put stuff on video like um, uh, did I do?
00:39:49.259 --> 00:39:54.353
No, I've done several of the episodes and like the tv show.
00:39:54.494 --> 00:40:01.934
And then I then won, you know, a little movie video that they have, yeah, replayed like the queen of hearts, yes, and then I remember you do you know?
00:40:01.934 --> 00:40:06.826
I think I remember you in the episode because you were like wearing overalls or something was this lady with the dog.
00:40:06.846 --> 00:40:11.445
With the dog, I got to work with a lot of dogs they had all these dogs, and they were so sweet and fun.
00:40:11.445 --> 00:40:17.335
We had a dog parade and, um, I was also a male lady.
00:40:17.335 --> 00:40:25.570
Okay, a male lady with a dog, not an m-a-l-e lady, but an m-a-i-l lady.
00:40:25.570 --> 00:40:26.532
What?
00:40:27.315 --> 00:40:27.896
I'm just being.
00:40:27.896 --> 00:40:30.905
We do need to clarify that for our audience.
00:40:30.905 --> 00:40:38.277
Yes, I appreciate you clarifying that you were not a male lady no um.
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:49.385
And then one episode I was puppets, it was the voice of puppets and I did the puppets did you get to do any episodes with some famous people that we know today?
00:40:49.385 --> 00:40:55.297
Well, patty words, is bj the voice of bj oh and.
00:40:55.336 --> 00:41:22.972
I also would go in once in a while and I would do the voices when the people who did the voices of Baby Bop and I don't think I ever did BJ but Riff, I laugh at that one because I could not do the voice but just as a filler because that person was out and then they could, but I could get the cadence and so then they would come back in and record on top of it.
00:41:22.972 --> 00:41:25.769
I love that so much.
00:41:25.769 --> 00:41:26.853
I loved working on Barney.
00:41:26.853 --> 00:41:28.496
They were wonderful people.
00:41:28.496 --> 00:41:29.768
They are wonderful people.
00:41:29.827 --> 00:41:41.579
I wish we had more shows like Barney today or Mr Rogers, I mean I didn't appreciate Barney as a parent so much or as a viewer so much as I did.
00:41:41.579 --> 00:41:45.409
I appreciated it more once I.
00:41:45.409 --> 00:41:47.315
They were very fun.
00:41:48.137 --> 00:41:51.311
Love that Did you get to work with, like Selena Gomez or?
00:41:51.713 --> 00:41:55.112
not on Barney, but I did a commercial with her.
00:41:55.927 --> 00:41:56.851
Oh, what type of commercial.
00:41:57.606 --> 00:41:59.956
Texas Lottery Love that, but I did a commercial with her.
00:41:59.976 --> 00:42:00.498
Oh, what type of commercial.
00:42:00.498 --> 00:42:01.905
Um, texas lottery Love that, my favorite commercial.
00:42:01.905 --> 00:42:04.690
And I do just want to ask how your fiber and myalgia is.
00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:05.170
It's good.
00:42:05.170 --> 00:42:10.099
It's.
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We're going to show a small little clip here.
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I have a picture on my phone Because I, when I tell you it's just one of my favorite things and cause it's on some website, when you search your name, search Shannon McGrann, I can be paid for that.
00:42:27.811 --> 00:42:30.512
It's on some website.
00:42:30.512 --> 00:42:33.128
I've watched it, at least in time, so maybe you're getting residuals.
00:42:33.588 --> 00:42:53.268
Oh no, I think that's just the what oh okay, so that you told us that there was like a whole watch party that you were having as well not party, because she doesn't party just mary and I yeah and then you did something where you played carrie fisher, right, what was that called?
00:42:53.268 --> 00:43:01.829
The price of fame carrie fisher did you just find that, because our producer told you exactly remember the price of fame part uh, the price of fame.
00:43:01.909 --> 00:43:03.833
Which you looked amazing in that.
00:43:03.833 --> 00:43:04.260
Thank you you did.
00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:05.282
Yeah, they should have had you play all the carries.
00:43:05.282 --> 00:43:06.244
No, because they had to have.
00:43:06.244 --> 00:43:06.824
You looked amazing in that.
00:43:06.824 --> 00:43:07.184
Thank you, you did.
00:43:07.204 --> 00:43:12.894
Yeah, they should have had you play all the carries, no because they had to have someone who could wear that little bikini thing.
00:43:12.894 --> 00:43:17.380
You could pull it off, no, but what was funny about?
00:43:17.380 --> 00:43:22.943
And that young lady was lovely and she looked a lot like Carrie Fisher, young Carrie Fisher.
00:43:22.943 --> 00:43:33.467
She was the Carrie Fisher in all the early Star Wars movies, or the ones that were made early, and then I was the Carrie Fisher the one that is no longer with us.
00:43:33.467 --> 00:43:39.469
We miss you, carrie Um and in all the later ones that were made later.
00:43:39.989 --> 00:43:41.550
I think that's awesome.
00:43:41.550 --> 00:43:43.751
How did you even is that through your commercial agent?
00:43:43.751 --> 00:43:44.092
Or?
00:43:44.092 --> 00:43:45.831
Yeah, that's so smart.
00:43:45.831 --> 00:43:51.434
I, I, I didn't even think that you looked like Carrie Fisher really oh yeah, I guess it was.
00:43:51.434 --> 00:43:55.016
I mean until I saw the photos and I was like, oh my gosh, it's really uncanny.
00:43:55.556 --> 00:44:00.498
The only thing they really did was they gave me dark contacts because she has very dark eyebrows.
00:44:01.878 --> 00:44:03.820
Thank you, oh, thank you yes.
00:44:10.900 --> 00:44:17.213
Anything else that you've done that we can see you in or that, like if you blink you'll miss me on both of them, but I think I think I'm still on netflix in a movie called look both ways.
00:44:17.213 --> 00:44:27.072
I'm a doctor, um giving the good news of baby and um and I got to deliver a baby, but they don't show that part.
00:44:27.072 --> 00:44:28.936
Oh, the baby was 10 days old.
00:44:30.420 --> 00:44:46.489
His name was rocky precious, I know um, and then I have a little one scene on love and death, on max really, where I'm just the nosy person in the neighborhood.
00:44:46.489 --> 00:44:47.771
What episode do you remember?
00:44:48.472 --> 00:44:57.297
no, I'm just asking 106 something love and death that's right.
00:44:57.336 --> 00:45:06.389
I think I saw people posting about that when it came out because it wasn't too long ago we had a lot of local people because it was shot in austin, oh, okay, okay, yeah, okay, that's nice.
00:45:06.869 --> 00:45:10.809
And then do you have any upcoming projects?
00:45:10.809 --> 00:45:13.827
I know, actually, because it's already been announced.
00:45:13.827 --> 00:45:21.027
I know that you're currently about to open Depends on when this episode comes out, we'll see.
00:45:21.027 --> 00:45:33.222
But Steel Magnolia is like Theater Arlington where you are playing the role of Truby, so that's exciting, but no, where you are playing the role of Truby, so that's exciting, but no, you are going to kill it, as Truby I already know.
00:45:33.222 --> 00:45:36.849
Because is that a role that you have wanted to play before, or is it just I've done it?
00:45:37.210 --> 00:45:38.032
You've done it before.
00:45:38.052 --> 00:45:39.353
I have Really.
00:45:39.353 --> 00:45:41.186
Have you also played Malin before?
00:45:41.487 --> 00:45:47.335
No and I, you know, I haven't.
00:45:47.335 --> 00:45:48.786
No and I haven't.
00:45:48.786 --> 00:45:50.947
I'm tired of playing sad people.
00:45:50.987 --> 00:45:57.333
Okay, I think I just really, really wanted you, which, in our game, the line that I wanted you to say was Drink your juice.
00:45:57.373 --> 00:46:00.027
Yes, I wanted it so bad.
00:46:00.027 --> 00:46:01.666
That makes me laugh.
00:46:01.666 --> 00:46:04.728
I have a real hard time because it's been made.
00:46:04.728 --> 00:46:15.213
You know, it's just been made into this kind of a joke of a thing and I I mean it's very serious and in the moment I won't laugh, but yeah that.
00:46:15.293 --> 00:46:22.271
And then I wanted to see which kara, I'm sure, amazing, but just that whole descent into that.
00:46:22.271 --> 00:46:31.545
You know the sadness at the funeral scene, um, which I'm excited to see here, I do, but I I'm excited to see you do the.
00:46:31.545 --> 00:46:35.356
You know little country pumpkin, the I guess you do.
00:46:35.356 --> 00:46:39.231
Well, della, you know, yeah, kind of was a little bit of which, where was she?
00:46:39.231 --> 00:46:48.072
Was she like georgia, north carolina, north carolina, um, kind of still that bible belt, yeah, um, feeling so i're going to kill it.
00:46:48.072 --> 00:46:52.099
All of you like Myesha, oh goodness, it's going to be a fun show.
00:46:52.099 --> 00:46:53.894
I'm excited about her.
00:46:53.894 --> 00:47:01.478
Olivia, just saw Olivia in POTUS she was brilliant.
00:47:02.222 --> 00:47:04.985
I have not seen that yet, but yes, I saw that they extended it another weekend as well.
00:47:05.005 --> 00:47:05.407
You should go see it.
00:47:05.407 --> 00:47:06.914
It's very good, but I saw that they extended it another weekend as well.
00:47:06.934 --> 00:47:07.335
You should go see it.
00:47:07.335 --> 00:47:07.657
It's very good.
00:47:07.657 --> 00:47:09.719
I'm going to try, yes, but it's going to be done by the time?
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.369
Yeah, it's definitely done by the time this comes out you can't see it now.
00:47:12.369 --> 00:47:15.650
Don't try to go see it now, unless they take it somewhere else.
00:47:16.219 --> 00:47:20.284
State Quest is starting to do that partnership.
00:47:20.306 --> 00:47:26.213
I think that's a pandemic sharing the expense of putting on a production.
00:47:26.353 --> 00:47:26.954
It's smart.
00:47:26.954 --> 00:47:33.061
I like how they did it with the play that goes wrong, and the fact that they're bringing it back as well is super smart on their part.
00:47:33.061 --> 00:47:39.251
Um, any other uh projects that you can talk about or anything else you?
00:47:39.271 --> 00:47:43.826
have, um, I in september I'll be.
00:47:43.826 --> 00:47:52.628
I think I can talk about I've been told I can talk about it, so I can the importance of being earnest at Stage West.
00:47:52.628 --> 00:47:56.887
And then I have something else right after that that I can't really say yet.
00:47:56.887 --> 00:47:58.851
Okay, well, that's exciting.
00:47:58.851 --> 00:48:00.114
Theater-wise.
00:48:00.114 --> 00:48:05.409
I don't know you know, everything changes on the daily with the TV film stuff.
00:48:06.291 --> 00:48:06.472
I know.
00:48:06.472 --> 00:48:13.231
Well for example, our producer, natalie, was supposed to be here for recording and she's currently doing a commercial Good for her.
00:48:13.231 --> 00:48:20.146
Yeah, I know, wonderful Thanks, natalie, for not being here, you ruined everything.
00:48:20.146 --> 00:48:25.606
Honestly, shannon was very upset that nothing was together, the most disappointed.
00:48:25.606 --> 00:48:32.048
So before we close out, I do want to ask um, because I feel like we've talked about all of your theater stuff.
00:48:32.048 --> 00:48:33.514
Is there anything?
00:48:33.514 --> 00:48:36.762
Do you have any other passions besides theater, or not at all?
00:48:36.762 --> 00:48:39.565
No, I do very little.
00:48:40.184 --> 00:48:41.106
I don't have time for anything.
00:48:41.106 --> 00:48:50.054
My main passion is, as my son, much to his chagrin I mean, did I use that word right?
00:48:50.054 --> 00:48:56.701
He, I love that kid and I just think he's the greatest thing on the planet and I just want to be with him all the time.
00:48:56.701 --> 00:48:59.931
But he's in college and he doesn't want to be with me.
00:48:59.931 --> 00:49:03.666
He's a horned frog right Going to.
00:49:03.706 --> 00:49:07.134
TCU, and I cannot believe he's in college.
00:49:07.134 --> 00:49:11.442
I can't either, but he's 20.
00:49:11.461 --> 00:49:12.726
Yeah, he's going to tcu and I I cannot believe he's in college.
00:49:12.726 --> 00:49:13.088
I can't either.
00:49:13.088 --> 00:49:13.389
He's 20.
00:49:13.389 --> 00:49:14.693
Yeah it's, he's gonna be drinking age shut up.
00:49:14.713 --> 00:49:16.298
Daniel uncle daniel's gonna have to take him out for a drink.
00:49:16.298 --> 00:49:22.347
No, no, no, I already told max uncle daniel has to take out for a drink.
00:49:22.367 --> 00:49:26.594
You can take max, but not Ellen, can you imagine?
00:49:26.594 --> 00:49:29.077
No, that's why no, I can't.
00:49:29.077 --> 00:49:30.239
Why were you so scared?
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:39.532
He's a good boy and he needs to stay that way, so I can sleep at night yeah.
00:49:39.679 --> 00:50:02.931
No, I well, and I think, just like Mary said the same thing right, her passion was her children, and I think having the time for your kids and wanting to put that time back into it is just so special, just because I had parents that were super supportive in everything that I did and um, so I love that you're able to and want to spend all the time I do I really do and just believe me, they will grow to understand.
00:50:03.032 --> 00:50:08.115
Oh, he does, it's just, you know, he's busy and he wants I want him to do.
00:50:08.115 --> 00:50:16.711
I want him to grow and learn and be a man or a woman if that's what he chooses, I don't care.
00:50:16.711 --> 00:50:19.961
Um, I just want him to be a grown-up in the world.
00:50:19.961 --> 00:50:30.597
And I know that means breaking away from me and but I just I never thought I would be this kind of mom.
00:50:30.597 --> 00:50:33.943
I I didn't know that a child would affect me so much.
00:50:34.543 --> 00:50:43.327
I'm gonna get weepy um, he's just the best thing that ever happened in my life and I just wanted to have all good things.
00:50:44.028 --> 00:50:44.931
I I love you.
00:50:45.110 --> 00:50:47.614
Owen Mommy loves you.
00:50:47.614 --> 00:50:51.206
He stopped calling me mommy at a very young age and it broke my heart.
00:50:53.429 --> 00:50:58.208
Mom, oh, okay, well, I'm sobbing.
00:50:58.208 --> 00:51:03.826
So we're going to end it on a happy note here, because what I do want you to.
00:51:03.826 --> 00:51:04.748
So we talked about love.
00:51:04.748 --> 00:51:06.811
You know we've talked about hate.
00:51:06.811 --> 00:51:08.407
No, just kidding.
00:51:08.407 --> 00:51:12.728
I do want to end it by thanking you for real.
00:51:12.728 --> 00:51:14.329
I love you so much as well.
00:51:14.329 --> 00:51:14.992
I love you too.
00:51:14.992 --> 00:51:16.905
I'm glad that we are friends.
00:51:16.905 --> 00:51:25.784
I'm glad that Mary introduced us Me too, that you are in my life and that you agreed to do this, even though you were like hell, no, at first, I don't like to be myself.
00:51:25.784 --> 00:51:30.123
You were like hell, no, at first.
00:51:30.123 --> 00:51:30.804
Yeah, I don't like to be myself.
00:51:30.804 --> 00:51:34.197
Like I was not kidding when I think it was like five text messages back and forth where I was like what if?
00:51:34.217 --> 00:51:34.719
I do this.
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:35.661
What is this the problem?
00:51:35.721 --> 00:51:43.782
I kept thinking you'd give up and move on, and I was not because I think you know that I'm that sought after.
00:51:43.782 --> 00:51:54.331
But I just was like if I put enough roadblocks up, I won't have to go be on camera, and sure enough she's here because I begged and I think I even had Mary.
00:51:54.351 --> 00:52:02.664
I was like Mary if you could tell her how great it was it was great, thank you, so so yes, well, I hope you had a good time, I hope you were comfortable.
00:52:02.724 --> 00:52:09.809
I appreciate you sharing everything that you had to share with not only me, but everyone here in DFW and whoever else is watching mom.
00:52:09.809 --> 00:52:12.434
Um, so thank you for that.
00:52:12.434 --> 00:52:18.233
And uh, yeah, guys make sure that you follow us on our social media Instagram, facebook.
00:52:18.233 --> 00:52:30.568
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00:52:31.563 --> 00:52:31.684
At.
00:52:31.724 --> 00:52:32.472
Daniel Does.
00:52:32.472 --> 00:52:35.246
Dfw is where you can catch the podcast.
00:52:35.246 --> 00:52:39.204
So once again, thanks, shannon, for being here today and we'll see you next time.
00:52:39.204 --> 00:52:39.987
Thank you, bye guys.