Bobby Elliott

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and hope you enjoy Bobby. Good to have you on here.
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I know we've talked about this for a minute.
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We're laughing because right before we started this, I had buffooned all of this up.
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But I got Bobby Elliott here with us today.
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Bobby and I ran into each other back in, oh, that June at this point,
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June or July, Ohio speed week.
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We were hanging out with Wayne racing and Zane DeVault at the Attica show.
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And when I started the podcast or when I announced the podcast,
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he messaged me on Facebook, you know, kind of talking about it.
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And I read it and never responded to him for like three weeks.
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And eventually we ran into each other again at Fremont.
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I think for the Jim Ford classic.
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And I, I was like, I got Texan back.
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I finally texted him back.
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He was standing right next to me.
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So we finally, we finally get him on.
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So what's going on, man?
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What's, what's been going on this summer into the fall?
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And, you know, you already know what I'm going to ask me.
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I'm going to ask for that quote.
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Yeah.
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This summer has been kind of a fun deal, you know, down here at a shop in Ohio
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and just been racing the whole fast deal.
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And that's been a lot of fun this year, third and points so far.
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So, but now we're in the shop in Ohio and I'm coming down here a few days a week.
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I got college, you got community college, few days a week.
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I also have work.
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So kind of balancing my lifestyle out, you know, family on team is kind of
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hard to have all the stuff done and be racing at the same time.
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And yes, but it's been awesome.
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You know, been a fun summer wrecked a bunch of top fives, you know, top three's,
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you know, made some high limit shows, had a bunch of fun deals like that.
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And my quote for the day is, you know,
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and my quote for the day here is create the lifestyle you've always wanted.
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And to me, that means, I guess every day I wake up and there's a flag on the wall
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in my bedroom and it's like, I look at that and I'm thinking, you know,
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what in my life could I do today to get my lifestyle and my lifestyle,
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the way I wanted it and the way I want it to be.
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And I always do something, you know, for racing or whether it be work racing
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and school, you know, doing something to make my life better as a person.
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Yeah, I dig it.
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I dig it.
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For you, like, what's your, what's your day to day life look like?
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So obviously, you know, you said you're a college student, you live up in Michigan.
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The shop is, you know, down here in Ohio.
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So it's a little bit of a drive.
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So you're going to school, coming here, then you're racing.
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Like, I mean, how do you get to the lifestyle that you want with really so much going on?
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So my Monday usually starts out, I have school from eight to three.
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And if I need to be down here working on the car, I drive down right after it's about a three hour drive each way.
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So, you know, by the time I'm finished up here, it's usually about, you know, nine o'clock,
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10 o'clock, midnight depends, you know, drive back home, sleep.
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Next day, wake up, I have my job, I go, you know, usually nine to five.
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So working there and then I get home and, you know, doing little things in the trailer,
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doing everything I can to make my race career better and improve myself, be a little more organized, be a little more clean.
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And then back Wednesday, I'm back college, eight to three, down here again if I need to be, same thing, Thursday with work.
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And then Friday is kind of my free day, if I race and I race in, but Friday is my free day.
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If not, usually go to my high school football, old high school football game or whatever.
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So, you know, I'm just out of high school last year, well, this last June.
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So that's been kind of an adjustment to make, you know, college life, you know, all your friends move away,
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all this like crazy stuff happens in your life and you're trying to balance it and, you know, staying really centered to myself
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and racing's really kept me whole and that lifestyle of racing's really kept me going throughout this whole thing.
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Yeah, I mean, I, that is it. I'm flabbergasted by the amount of driving that you do.
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And I'm going to ask, what do you drive?
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I drive a Ford Mustang V6, Star Wars V6.
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That's the car out there that's yours. Okay, I was a little curious. How many miles you got on that thing?
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190,000.
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And what year is it?
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2014, so.
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But I've only, I got it with 160 and that was on a 60 and now I'm 18, so, I mean, it's not terrible.
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Usually I'm not driving that though. Usually I'm driving a pickup truck or something.
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That's four miles and I put on my first car. I don't even, I don't even remember how many miles I put on my first car.
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Wasn't that many though? I also didn't drive that lot, but so you're, what do you, you mentioned you're going to school, what are you going to school for?
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Just going for general studies right now in my associates degree. Not really sure what I want to do yet, but I know, you know, something automotive racing, you know, it's my life.
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So I really want to like incorporate that into my everyday job because, you know, my dad always says, you know, if you're going to have a job, it might as well be something, you know, you have fun doing and you enjoy doing because then it's not work at that point.
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So that's kind of my goal in life, just to find that balance, you know, again, lifestyle.
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Yeah, where, where are you going to school at?
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Going to my McComb Community College. So it's, it's nothing, nothing awesome, but you know, it's cheap for me. I can figure out what I want to do, you know, between the I drive right home.
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It's an hour from my house. So which is nice because an hour south of my house. So I'm close to the shop.
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So I can kind of usually skirt out there around, you know, a little early sometimes. Hopefully my parents aren't listening, but yeah, a little early sometimes.
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So yeah, so come down here and, you know, get stuff done.
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School is school, brother, no matter where you go.
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So yeah, but, you know, AJ Stewart is telling me, you know, all you got to know is that the right foot's the gas pedal and left foot's the brake pedal.
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Sometimes you're going to mix up the, you know, it depends.
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Well, sometimes you just need to know where the right foot's at and you can forget the left.
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And sometimes people need to know where the left sat. Arca drivers.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, some of those guys know where the left one is, but no, for me, big gas or some right foot's heavy.
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Yeah, it's like I said, that's the only one you need to know sometimes.
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So I'm going to give, I'll give my quote here. We spent about 30 minutes before we started recording.
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I was trying to find one that I wanted to go with this week.
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But the one I'm going to go with here every day, you're one day closer to dirt, so you got to go hard.
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And you listen to it and you're like, I don't know what that means, but think about it.
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You're one day closer to the dirt, AKA you're probably one more day closer to death.
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And I think, you know, you, when I was 18, when I was your age, I fell invincible.
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Like nothing was ever going to ever take me down.
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It's been about 10 years. I've learned that I'm probably like one mistake away from like losing my life,
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doing something so stupid that I knew was a bad idea from the start.
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Or, you know, just in general, like, you know, you, you read like the newspaper or you like see Facebook posts.
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And it's like, you know, I just saw, you know, an influencer down in Texas, you know, passed away at 25.
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And you're like, I'm two years older than that. So my time could come at any moment.
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So I've kind of really, I look at the quote or read the quote. And, you know, for me, it's, it's like a, you know, you tomorrow is not promised.
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So you might as well go do everything that you want to do today.
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Or, you know, like, don't, you know, I have had a really bad habit of, oh, I'm going to wait until next week and I'll do this thing.
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And it's like, I probably should just do it today while it's fresh and it's on my mind and just go out and send it or go hard.
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And, you know, what's, what's the worst that's going to happen? You fail.
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Right.
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In failure, you learn and you've managed to learn things to not fail down the road.
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And I know we were talking here a little bit before we started the show, you know, I came right from the day job to here.
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It's like, you know, I'm back and forth all the time, but it was like, you know, I might quit, you know, got things I kind of want to do and, you know, and things that I want to follow.
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So like, I think, yeah, if you look at the, you know, life and you say, you know, every day you're, you're one step closer to dying or, you know, you're one step closer.
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Like you grow up and you think, oh, I'm getting, you know, I'm growing up.
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You kind of hit a point where, you know, it's, I'm one day older.
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I'm one, you know, it's not one day for my birth.
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I'm one day closer to my, my death.
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It changes your, your mindset a little bit to kind of be like, you know, I probably, I should, I should go do this.
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You know, I should say that this person or whatever.
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So it's, I really liked that quote.
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I found it, like I said, about 30 seconds before we started, but I was like, that's, I instantly like, that's the one I want to go with.
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I was going to go with a Steve Irwin quote.
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Yeah, well, that went downhill quick.
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So, yeah, we'll say that one for another episode.
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I got to touch on that.
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Honestly, you know, you got to take that chance.
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You got to go say that thing to that girl.
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You got to throw that slide or throw that last slap bomb to, you know, that could either make or break your life, make your break your career.
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And honestly, you know, if you're worried about the death there, honestly, you aren't living hard enough.
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So you better be doing your thing and taking that chance, honestly.
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And that's the best part of life.
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You know, we have these great opportunities.
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You know, I'm in a great opportunity where I can take chances and, you know, drive four times, bring cars.
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I'm living life every day.
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And, you know, I would say like, you know, if I die tomorrow, I'll smile and do it.
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So it's kind of that thing you don't talk about in racing, but, you know, it's something I've always lived by is, you know, I'm happy in a race car.
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I've been in hospitals.
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I've been in helicopters flying across Indiana, you know, lifeline.
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I mean, it's been kind of a crazy deal with my whole racing career.
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And for sure, every day I wake up and I'm like, I want to do this for a living.
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I want to make this happen.
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So my dad had a conversation after me, you know, I got a back in caution last time I was racing micros in Indiana and I took a helicopter ride to the hospital and scared the crap out of my mom.
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But my dad also went with me in the helicopter.
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So, no, and we were driving back, you know, the same old five hours from Indiana and we stopped and I'm like, I lay on the grass because that's what you do.
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Like when you want to, when you have a discussion wherever you lay on the grass and I sit there and I'm like, Dad, when do you think the car is being back?
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And I think that was the moment, you know, we kind of knew it's like I've taken this upon myself or it's like, we're doing this, we're committed and now in the sprint cars, you know, so we're really committed now.
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You know, some people look at my parents and they're like, man, how do you let your kid do that?
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And it's like, you know, this is this is what I love to do.
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And they didn't let me do it.
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I probably resent them a little bit for that.
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But, you know, I played basketball, I played baseball, that stuff.
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And it's not the same as racing four times sprint cars and throwing dirt around in Ohio and, you know, traveling the country and being on the road and, you know, meeting great people like, you know, all the people behind this car, you know, AJ, you know, great person.
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So it's something you don't want to talk about, but for sure you got to take that chance, live life.
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Yeah, I think thinking about the quote, like I'm now thinking about, you know, another quote that someone has once said, and I'm going to turn it over, kind of put the spotlight on Brian Klossin.
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And I remember, you know, I talked a little bit about this with Zane, but there's a quote or a video of him, you know, kind of in an interview and he basically says, you know, like, if I left tomorrow, I made my mark.
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And when you look at that, and you think about what everything that he did, you know, in his career and, you know, at the young age he was, I mean, but for context, Brian was killed at the same age that I am now.
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Wow.
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So it's like, you know, whoa, like it's a, you know, I'm, he did all that by the time he was my age and, you know, I'm here like, I don't feel like I've done enough type thing and I think everyone should strive to kind of get to that point in their life where they can say, you know, if I left tomorrow, I made my mark on something,
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whether it's racing, loved ones, family, you know, for me, digital media or something like if you, if you left tomorrow and you could, you know, take, you know, your final 30 seconds and flashback your entire life and think,
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I'm proud of what I did in my years of living. I think you've lived a full life and you've gone hard to the day that it ends. And yeah, I just, that quote, now I think about it, like that should be the quote we should all use.
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What are we doing here?
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Yeah, have you made your mark? And then I also really like, he's got another one too, where, you know, he basically kind of goes, you know, he says that and then it might be the same interview, it's a different one.
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But he basically goes, you know, I'll let them tell you where I rank or whatever, you know, it's never, you know, he never set out to be the best.
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He, you know, he just wanted to race cars. He wanted to win, obviously, but he didn't care about being the best. He didn't care about going into the Hall of Fame.
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Like he didn't care about any of it. So it's like, when you look at that and you say this guy didn't care about any of the glory that came with it, he was doing it because he loved it.
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But at the same time, he was at a point in his life, race that I made my mark. Like that you put the two together. That is like the epitome of what life should be.
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And I think, you know, we always talk, you know, live like BC or BC forever. Like I truly think if we all lived like Brian Clausen, we would all live, you know, these happy, extravagant lives where we've done so much and we've done so much for everybody around us.
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And not only that, but for ourselves and, and so forth. And I think there's just a lot of life lessons you can take. And like it's, it seems silly when you say it because it's, you know, it's, it's silly just two sins, is that he said.
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But, you know, two sentences, if you ever read a book, you can write a whole novel on one sentence. You know, look at the first, what's the first chapter of a book start with? What's that first sentence?
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Because the rest of the book is all based off that first sentence basically. So yeah, I think, you know, it's, you look at that and you take that in and you try to live that life, you know, if it, if you're calling is, you know, race at 410 Sprint Cars and so be it.
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If it involves, you know, a helicopter flight across Indiana, so be it. Like, I phone in helicopters. I was, were you conscious?
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Yeah, were you caught?
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I was fully aware. I was, I wasn't in a medivac. I was flying helicopters above the ocean and foreign lands and it was spooky. But like, you know, I was scared.
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But I was loving life. I love flying. I love, I love the feeling, the freedom of it. Like man, one day, two brothers from Ohio said, put some paper on this thing and see if it'll fly.
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And it did. And then now we're here to where we're at.
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Like, now we have wings on Sprint Cars. So a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Now we're, someone said, put them on a Sprint car and low and behold, here we are. But, you know, it's just things like that. Like, if that's, if that's the life that you live and, you know, and it's a story you can tell, whether good, bad or whatever.
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It's a life worth living, in my opinion.
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Yeah, for sure. No, everyone has a different life than everyone else. Honestly, you know, some kids are staying at home playing video games and doing that every day. And, you know, they find that that's their lifestyle.
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They like to do that. Well, personally, you know, I'm driving down here. I'm working on cars. You know, that's my calling and, you know, my heart calls for that. And some people, you know, they're in different life situations right now.
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And they are in different points in their life where they have to make those decisions. You know, got to cap up racing and not be racing. But I cannot imagine a life without 410 Sprint Cars.
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I'd have to be working on one. I have to be, you know, racing on doing something with a 410 Sprint Car.
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Because since that one day in 2018 when, you know, Brent Lane took me to his shop in Michigan and, you know, his first time I met him, he lives right down the road for me.
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And that was the first ever time he introduced a kid to his Sprint Car. And, you know, I don't think he notices how big that moment is and how much has impacted it.
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I mean, look behind us, we live a car there now. So it's kind of crazy, honestly, how it's all played out the last few years.
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Being involved with Brett, Zane, Hunter and growing up and, you know, kind of watching what they do and having guidance from Brett Lane and, you know, sticking with AJ and having all these people around me.
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I'm super blessed for that opportunity. And they've created this lifestyle for a kid who is just a micro racer in Indiana.
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And now, you know, here we are racing 410 Sprint Cars all across country. So that's the best part about it.
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Tell me a little bit more about that relationship with Lane, because obviously that's where we cross paths initially.
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So I got to see a little bit of that, you know, relationship there and stuff.
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But, you know, I talked to Lane a little bit, you know, Sunday at Millstream.
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We're recording here for context on the 9th of October. So I talked to him a little bit, you know, at Millstream and we had a back and forth discussion just kind of on racing and life in general.
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But, you know, he kind of talked, you know, briefly about some, you know, their plans and like what life's like and stuff like that.
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Like for you, I mean, what's that relationship with them been like? I mean, obviously you said you lived on the road from them and, and all of that.
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So like how did, you know, back in 2018, the introductory period to this go and then kind of as you've progressed in your career, like that relationships helped you or kind of been like a mentorship or whatever to you.
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So in Michigan, there's no dirt tracks other than maybe Tri-City and Butler.
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But where I'm at in Michigan and our made a Michigan Ailton, Michigan, whatever you want to say, there is no Sprint Cars within 40 miles and you wouldn't think that.
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Well, we're driving a toad or home down the road. We were racing micro sprints at the time and my dad got a DM on X or Twitter or if you want to call it.
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And it was Brett and them and they're like, Hey, saw your semi like your toad or home.
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What are you, what are you doing in Michigan? We're from our Mata and at the time, you know, my dad and Brett kind of talked a little bit and my dad was like, Hey, do you mind if like we come over and just take a look at the shop?
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Look, take a look at cars because he had some cars up there at the time. So we went over there and, you know, we looked around and dude, it was it was cool.
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You know, for me, it was the first time I touched, you know, looked at Sprint car and it was like, Wow, like just a culture shock, even from micros Sprint cars, just amazing.
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And, you know, he let me work there and, you know, clean stuff basically that winter.
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And by that time, you know, I was two years from being out of micros and we kept in little contact and, you know, back in, I think it was 21 or yeah, 2021.
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He, um, he reached out to me and we were talking. We needed to, I was always like, Oh, you gotta get me to race, gotta get me to a race because I've only been to a few Sprint car races before that ever.
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Um, so we basically hooked up from there and, you know, he allowed me to come up speed week with them and I learned so, so much with the driver at time and the crew chief, you know, I listened to them and, you know, you just learned so much.
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Being on the road and you learn the grind and daily maintenance, you know, how much goes into a Sprint car and yeah, that whole dirt racing scene, just a really, really big culture shock.
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I guess even from micros to Sprint cars, it's amazing. Just the fans and you're looking around. You're like, This is what I want to do. Like this is awesome.
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And at the time, you know, I just had met Zane then right after that. I was at my first ever thrift.
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So basically we stuck with Brett and Brett let us buy a car off of him and we bought a 360 motor and put it in the car and we went, my first ever test was just about a half mile away from here.
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We went to Attica. It was after, I think one of the races, TJ Michael won and we right after that was my first ever time driving a Sprint car and it was 360 and ran a few laps.
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So there was five laps and the next day went to Fremont's view and ran the GLSS and I think we went 20th, 11th or something.
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It was just from there on, you know, Brett always kind of guided me and was a helping hand.
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And for sure, I mean, someone I always want to stick around and I met Zane there that night too.
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And who knew that Zane and Brett were going to come together. I always knew they were good buddies and, you know, at the end of that year at 21, I raced Brett's 4-10 for the first time.
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It was the first time I stepped into 4-10 too. It was in Brett's stuff out at the Learnerville Speedway.
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So that was a very cool moment for me. Again, this full circle moment was pretty insane for me.
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So it was just cool to be racing the 4-car under Brett's name because that's something, you know, last three years I've been just watching going around the track.
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And it's like, who knew I was going to be inside of it. And then, you know, like I said, Zane and Brett hooked up and Zane's always been this guy.
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I can call for help. And, you know, he's younger like me. Kind of has that similar driving style. We're driving the same cars.
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So it's nice to bounce ideas off him. Him bounce ideas off me.
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And, you know, it's just been a good, good working relationship bond.
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You know, competitive though. I'm always trying to chase down Zane, I swear.
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Every time at Fremont, I'm usually just trying to chase him down. I come from the back usually and he's starting up front.
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So my goal is always to try and, you know, finish right there with Zane because I know Zane's a good driver and I always want to try and beat him.
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So yeah, it's, I could, I could sense a good friendship there at that speed week show.
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And obviously you didn't race that night or all that, but, you know, we had a good time and you can just, you can sense a good friendship or relationship amongst people.
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And you can, for those not like super familiar with it, like you can really feel that when you're around that lane shop.
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I mean, it is, it is not a, you know, Zane's a hired gun and they don't talk.
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He just shows up track and drives like it's, that is a cohesive like racing family internal of itself.
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And personally, honestly, I don't think you get the whole feel if you're not there working on the car every day.
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If you're not part of that, you don't get the feel and, you know, Zane, a hundred great people to, you know, model your life around.
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And, you know, I see them what they're doing and, you know, it's a commitment and they're staying in that shop every day.
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We stay in, like you said, we stare at air mattresses on the floor and, you know, they've always allowed me to come back for speed week because I always learn stuff when I'm with them.
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And, you know, Zane's a different driver than their past ones.
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And, you know, he's always a good one to learn about because he just knows so much and friendship is amazing.
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Honestly, I call Zane up whenever we're just talking about, you know, it can be about racing.
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It can be about something completely different.
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Same thing with Brian Patty, you know, I don't think I've met better people on this earth, you know, gave this kid a shot.
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Young micro racer, Indiana gave him a shot to work on a sprint car.
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That's pretty dang cool of them.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You brought up the micro portion of it.
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So I want to dive into that.
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So like obviously sounds like you guys are traveling from Michigan down to Indiana to do a lot of that.
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And, you know, what is, what does that seem like?
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Because obviously here in Ohio, you don't ever really get to see it because one tracks are too big.
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And it's just not a big thing here.
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But obviously you, you, you watch Tulsa in January every year and you get kind of refamiliarized with the fact that there are a lot of micros.
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Oh yeah.
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Out of the country.
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Just not in this part.
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So like, I mean, what is that, that scene like, you know, and then, you know, commuting or traveling from Michigan to Indiana and so forth to do that.
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And then kind of coming up through that because obviously micros are a pretty common starting point for a lot of people before they get to midgets or, you know, sprints elsewhere in the country.
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I mean, kind of just talk about that because that's kind of, that's an unfamiliar territory for a lot of people here in the Midwest.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Ohio is like not a big place for, you know, micros friends to be honest with you and Indiana is a, there's a few tracks there and, you know, but you really don't see it until you get down more south down west almost.
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So, but the whole micros scene, I love the micros scene because you need to do it.
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You need to learn how to drive a dirt car because I was a pavement kid growing up.
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I raced cord images for four or five or since I was five to I was about 11.
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I was a national champion.
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So I needed to kind of get out of my shell and race dirt.
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So at that point we'd make the five hour trip there every weekend down to us 24 circus day speedway.
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There'd be a hundred plus cars and four or five divisions, which the racing lasted from five to about midnight.
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And the scene was something else, honestly, nothing like the sprint cars.
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You don't have the huge fans.
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You don't have all that, but it's just a bunch of people who love racing.
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You know, you got your older ones, you got your younger ones and all that.
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And for sure the different divisions make for amazing racing, especially us 24 in Circus City.
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They have great big shows there, a lot of 10 grand to win shows.
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And I've been lucky to finish up front most of them and win a few Memorial races at Circus City.
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And that was a whole great deal.
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But it was a crucial step in my life that you need to take.
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And every time we pulled out of I think us 24 in Circus City, you're just.
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You're you could be happy about one class and then other class you're just you're mad about and you have that weird feeling.
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And you get out of there and it's midnight and nothing's open.
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So we are on our way home and every day or every time we'd race in Indiana, we would stop at the same cracker barrel and we would sleep in the same exact spot.
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We throw it in park, the same exact spot.
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We'd level the toad or home out and we'd sleep there.
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And then the next day we drive home on Sundays and that five that 10 hour round trip every weekend, it was a grind.
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And but you couldn't really race in Michigan because there's one micro track in Michigan.
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And let's just say the competition wasn't amazing to race at.
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So we had to go and challenge ourselves and everyone said if you could race us 24 in Circus City, you could race anywhere in the country.
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And honestly, they were right because we went to the Tulsa shootout and, you know, we always locked into qualifiers right away.
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And that was a big deal because if you don't walk in our qualifier, you have to run C's, D's, E's, F's and we were always in a qualifier.
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I was a high point guy.
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One year at Tulsa shootout for now going out a lot, which doesn't sound like much, but for 300 cars in your division, that's a big deal.
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And, you know, the environment of Tulsa is insane because you have, you know, 1500 cars in the same building.
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And it's like, wow, even during the COVID year, that was something everyone was masked on too.
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They were enforcing the mask, we were on everything. And that was just crazy how many people wanted to be there,
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how many people didn't care if we had to wear a mask.
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We just wanted to get the race and done.
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We wanted to race and that micro scene is something else.
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Let me tell you, and you see a lot of people come from the micro scene and, you know, either work on spring cars or race spring cars, you know, Hunter, Hunter Jackson.
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I met, you know, six or seven years ago, maybe in micros and a time he was trying to race one and everything.
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So that was how I met Hunter and everything. So we always talked about him around Brett shop, you know, me and Zane were there.
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And I was always like, who's this hunter guy you're always talking about?
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And, you know, who knew that he was going to meet him and have him work for him.
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So that's the crazy part.
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But the micro scene is something people need to do and need to understand because a lot of your today's racers are coming out there.
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You know, your Ryan's Hams, your, you know, Gunner sets there, all those kids are coming right out there and coming into spring cars.
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It's a pretty big deal, honestly.
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Yeah, it's really like fascinating when you look at certain parts of the country and what is popular there, what is kind of like the entry level stepping stone.
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So like, you know, here in the southern part of the Midwest, you know, North Carolina, big micro scene, you know, Millbridge, Millbridge and all that.
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And then, you know, you got us 24 and all those places kind of, you know, a little bit further south there, that Oklahoma scene, Oklahoma, Texas and big, you know, micro scene down there.
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And then you go way, way west of California and you still have some micros out there.
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But the big, you know, thing that you see out there is outlaw carts.
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I mean, Larsen, CV, you know, all those guys coming through that rank, which if you're not familiar with those,
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just YouTube them.
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Oh, they're insane.
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Because you think like you look at micros and you're like, okay, but then you watch the outlaw carts and you're like, there's no suspension.
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None. It's it's a go car.
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They're flying around this little, what is it, 16th, like 18th mile oval.
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Yeah. I mean, it is a go car with an engine on it that's way too powerful with 450cc.
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With a bolt on cage, basically, like you just watching, you're like, that looks so unsafe, but so awesome.
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Oh, Scottie.
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I I've seen them flip pretty big and they always seem to like be pretty decent.
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What's insane about those is they're literally go car frames.
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Like that's all they are in the nutshell.
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And no, that seems in it's crazy nowadays with that scene coming in.
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And, you know, most of those kids sometimes are going to micros and then spring cards and some kids are going to spring cards and, you know, they're racing out a cart still, you know, you got CV still going back racing out all carts.
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Larsen still racing out carts to their homes.
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And I think it's interesting how, you know, you have your Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois area, which is micro sprint based.
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And then you have your West Coast, which is out of cart based.
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And I think you see that clash at the spring car level.
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I think that's also why you get so many good races and, you know, the national tour races.
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You got kids coming from all different backgrounds and they're putting on the best show possible pretty much.
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And then you have Ohio, which has basically neither of those and you got dirt trucks 305.
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Yeah, 305s, I think.
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I mean, unless there's some secret go-kart track in Ohio that I don't have no idea about, like, I don't think there really is a true, you know, entry level division.
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The closest thing I can think of that comes to Ohio pretty frequently would be like USAC's, you know, D2, midget stuff.
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Oh yeah, D2.
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But even D2 is like entry level for a D2 midget.
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I mean, that's tough.
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I mean, jumping in a micro sprint from random pavement all my life, that was tough on me.
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And I was, you know, like 11, 12 years old at the time.
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And you're like, whoa, this is a change.
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I can't imagine driving for the first ever car I ever drove is a 305 sprint car.
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I mean, I don't even know what age we'd get in those.
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I think my parents always were like, no, we're going to have you race micros first.
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They always were pushing the microscene, you know, because we had all these people and, you know, we bought Zebwise's old quarter midgets.
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So we were watching these guys like Emerson Axe and Zebwise grow up through micros and quarter midgets and sprint cars.
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And we watched that and I was like, I want to mimic that.
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I want to do that.
358
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And it's, I think, you know, my dad talked to Chad maybe once or twice and Chad kind of told us, no, you don't want to be in a 305.
359
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:32,700
You want to learn in a micro and get going through those.
360
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,700
And you see Emerson, Harley's been doing really good and everything is in right now.
361
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:41,700
I mean, honestly, so going up through the micros and everything looks like it's suited him pretty well.
362
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:48,700
Yeah, I think it just kind of all depends on, you know, who you are and where you're from and what opportunities you get afforded to you.
363
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:49,700
No, for sure.
364
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:59,700
I think if there's anything close to outlaw carts in Ohio, not that I think about it would be, you know, the fall brawl deal that Tony Bieber has out at his place.
365
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:00,700
I forgot about that.
366
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,700
But is that really like sanction?
367
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:03,700
Like, are you going to hear about the wood?
368
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:04,700
No, that is sweater leather.
369
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:08,700
It's totally like a backyard deal that he does, but it's a lane shop.
370
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:09,700
Same thing.
371
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:16,700
When I mean, part, when you, when you look at it, like that is the closest thing to it, like just kind of all hanging it out there and all of that.
372
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:27,700
But I want to kind of, you know, go back here a little bit to something you had said earlier, we talked about it, but in going depth.
373
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:32,700
And you had mentioned, you know, you got a helicopter ride across Indiana once.
374
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:39,700
And I know that we've, we've had a conversation on a couple episodes, kind of about that part.
375
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:43,700
And it's one thing that I think a lot of people, you know, I see people at the track or whatever.
376
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:47,700
And they're always like, yeah, I would have never, you know, imagine that part of it.
377
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:49,700
Like they don't, you don't think of it.
378
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:58,700
And then, you know, I think the racing community, specifically the driver's side has kind of got this, you know, persona.
379
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:05,700
Like, well, nothing ever hurts us because we're race car drivers and they just, they just bury it down below.
380
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:12,700
But, you know, we're, we're getting more in a time where those things are, you know, being addressed, they're being talked about.
381
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,700
And you're even seeing now in the NFL, it's a big thing.
382
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:16,700
You know,
383
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:18,700
Yeah, where the guarding hats now and everything.
384
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:20,700
The CT stuff.
385
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:22,700
But like the mental health side of it too.
386
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,700
You had Logan Allen, what was that?
387
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:29,700
Two years ago, I think at this point, you know, kind of step away for a little bit and was like, I need to step away.
388
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:35,700
You had the announcement today with Devin Borden stepping away from, you know, his ride for a little bit to take some time away.
389
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:42,700
And, you know, I obviously, the team has said like it's a, you know, he's stepping away for his, his stuff that he's got going on.
390
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:44,700
And they were like, you know, he can come back whenever he wants.
391
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:47,700
But you're seeing, you know, more and more of that as time goes.
392
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:52,700
And, you know, we're really trying to, I think, normalize some of that because it's getting to a point now where, you know,
393
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:58,700
if you have a concussion and you go out there and you get another wreck, like we've talked about it, you're only making it worse.
394
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,700
And you can put yourself in a pretty bad situation.
395
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:08,700
So I kind of just want to talk, like, have you talked about your experience a little bit with that, you know, to the level that you're, you know, you're comfortable with?
396
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:14,700
Like, you know, what went on, you know, kind of that period there where you're on the helicopter, the medical say whatever after.
397
00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:21,700
And then kind of the aftermath, you know, coming back, you know, where's there a time you're like, maybe it's too soon.
398
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:30,700
I need to wait because, you know, Zane, you know, talked about, you know, he for a while there afterwards, he was like, yeah, to be honest, I thought I was okay.
399
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:31,700
And then I realized I wasn't.
400
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:40,700
And then, you know, we, you know, Tyler Street and his episode talked about, you know, some leg injuries that he had and was like, I tried to race on it and it probably wasn't a good idea.
401
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:46,700
And it's kind of becoming a recurring thing that we've seen is like, I just try to race through stuff or think that they're okay and they're not.
402
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,700
So like, what was your experience there?
403
00:34:48,700 --> 00:34:51,700
It was 2021.
404
00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:59,700
And being in 2021, I was in non-world championship was arguably the biggest micro sprint race in Indiana.
405
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:01,700
And we get going out there and I think we're in the heat race.
406
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:16,700
I went ninth to third and Jason personally got into somebody in front of me and somebody spun around and somebody got up on two wheels and I went high to avoid the wreck and the bumper of a car actually ended up coming right through like my left side arm guard and aimed right at my head.
407
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:19,700
And when that happened, it cracked my helmet.
408
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:24,700
I instantly, I don't remember anything until I got back in the ambulance.
409
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:31,700
So I, that moment, you know, it's pretty engraved in my memory of that moment right before that.
410
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:45,700
And yeah, it was a very, I guess, long day, you know, going to the hospital and, you know, flying, taking the helicopter flight there, you know, thinking I had a brain bleeding, all this stuff and, you know, sitting there at the hospital, you're like, man, you can't do that.
411
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:47,700
Man, you can't even process what just happened.
412
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:56,700
I mean, you think I think of a concussion like a severe one is like the worst headache and sickness you have ever felt times about, you know, 20.
413
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,700
I mean, to get close for it.
414
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:01,700
It was a very, very tough time.
415
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:10,700
I mean, mentally, honestly, it was a, you know, you get racing taken away from you from this crash and, you know, you're, you're hurt.
416
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:11,700
You really can't do much.
417
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:12,700
You're sitting in a dark room.
418
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,700
I was trying to go mow the lawn one day.
419
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,700
It was like three weeks after and you're like, dude, I'm, I'm getting sick here.
420
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:19,700
Like I'm not, I'm not feeling well.
421
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:23,700
It's like you still have that headache that's terrible.
422
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:24,700
You can't go outside.
423
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:26,700
You have to be wearing sunglasses, cover my eyes everywhere.
424
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:31,700
You have that sensitivity that to that light that just it's really tough.
425
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:37,700
And, you know, for me, mentally, it was a very tough time in my life because it's like you can't do anything.
426
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,700
I'm a freshman or sophomore in high school.
427
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,700
It's like my summer just started.
428
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,700
I can't even do anything there.
429
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:50,700
It's you're, you're in the spot and you have a lot of time to think and that could be a very dangerous thing and a lot of, and a good thing at times.
430
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:58,700
And, you know, I had a lot of thinking and man, I wouldn't be who I am without being in a race car at the end of the day.
431
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,700
And honestly, I just kept thinking about that.
432
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:10,700
And honestly, a concussion just sent me back a little bit in the car and you, you get this other car there and you're getting ready to build it.
433
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:17,700
And you're like, your dad asked you the question, you know, you still want to do this and in my head, you know, you have that moment.
434
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,700
You're like, yeah, I still want to do it.
435
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,700
But for sure, I mean, that was a moment where you have to accept.
436
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,700
It's like, man, I can't get hurt in these things.
437
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,700
And that was in a micro sprint, not even in a sprint car.
438
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,700
And now we're going faster, heavier cars.
439
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:42,700
It's stuff like that that really puts you back and makes you look at it from an outside view and be like, is this really worth it?
440
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:45,700
But like I go back to my lifestyle, this is my lifestyle.
441
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:46,700
This is my life.
442
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,700
I've accepted that for who I am.
443
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:56,700
And I wouldn't change it if I, if I had a, if I had a chance to change it, there's no way I would ever change it.
444
00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:03,700
It's just something I cannot explain, but driving a race car just makes me feel free.
445
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:10,700
And it's, if I have some, you know, if I have a bad week, you know, something happens, you know, half of the season, I've talked about this a lot, honestly.
446
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:16,700
You get these few weeks back to back to back where it's like, man, you can't do anything, right?
447
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:25,700
I mean, you're, you're finishing back a means, you know, you're barely making a means it's, and you started your top four, top five, top three, made a high limit show.
448
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:28,700
You're sitting back and you're like, dude, what am I doing right now?
449
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:32,700
And, you know, you have some other stuff happening in life.
450
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:38,700
And that really takes a toll on you mentally where it's like you go to the track and you're like, I don't know why I'm here.
451
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:46,700
But I think for me, my, my mental state gets a lot better when I'm going, you know, 100 miles per hour.
452
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:53,700
I think in the moment when I'm in that car, we talked about it a lot, honestly.
453
00:38:53,700 --> 00:39:01,700
When you're in that car, your whole mood changes and it's like you see a side come out of being there that you haven't seen all week or, you know, something like that.
454
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:07,700
And it's kind of crazy how that works, how something like that can just cheer you up or something along those lines.
455
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:13,700
But my dad always said, you know, you got your head, you know, somewhere else and you're not in the track.
456
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:14,700
We shouldn't probably be here.
457
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:20,700
And I think that kind of cost me a few weeks and sadly, because I had done to the while you end of the year here, we talked about it.
458
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,700
And like, what happened those few weeks?
459
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:25,700
And he goes, well, life happened.
460
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:34,700
You're a kid, you know, you just graduated high school, your friends are leaving, you know, a girl might have, might not have broke your heart.
461
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,700
That's just stuff.
462
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:37,700
That's life.
463
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:43,700
And I think it took me a second to really decompress that as a person that that's life.
464
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:47,700
And when I get in this race car, you know, that's a whole different life.
465
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,700
And that's life I want to be living.
466
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:58,700
So I've kind of these last few months really taken myself out of it and been really focused on just, you know, racing is my thing.
467
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:00,700
And that's what makes me happy.
468
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:08,700
So yeah, it's you mentioned, you know, you get in it, it's a different life.
469
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:14,700
And I think there's a lot of things that people in their life have.
470
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:20,700
Obviously, you know, it's not getting in a race car for everybody, not everybody gets to do this.
471
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:28,700
But in some way or capacity, there's something that everybody can do that is kind of like a, you know, a light switch.
472
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,700
You hit it and everything goes away.
473
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:40,700
You know, I've had, you know, those things in my life and they've they've changed as I've gotten older.
474
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:45,700
Like there were things that, you know, I enjoyed when I was 18, 19, 20.
475
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,700
And then, you know, you turn 21 and you can go out for the first time.
476
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,700
You know, it's like that's a different life for you.
477
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:55,700
And, you know, I had a period 21, 22, you know, 23, I moved to Texas.
478
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,700
I, you know, was partying a lot.
479
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:58,700
Like that was kind of a getaway.
480
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,700
And then I realized it really wasn't the getaway that I thought it was.
481
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:07,700
And like now for me, you know, it's, you know, life, life happens.
482
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:10,700
You, you, you grow up a little bit.
483
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:26,700
And, you know, my getaway now for me is like just walking in to the house after the day, going to my room or whatever like room I have that I want to go into.
484
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:31,700
Like for me right now, where I'm at, like, I have a TV, my computer, all that's in the bedroom that I'm staying in.
485
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,700
So like, that's just where I go.
486
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:34,700
I just go in there.
487
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:40,700
I fire up my computer, open up, you know, Adobe and go through things and edit.
488
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:43,700
And it's like, when I do that, nothing else matters.
489
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:45,700
Like, I'm focused on that.
490
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:46,700
You're locked in.
491
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:47,700
I'm locked.
492
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:48,700
Yeah.
493
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:49,700
I'm locked in.
494
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:51,700
Part of the issue for me is that I'm on my computer.
495
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:52,700
So I have easy internet access.
496
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:53,700
I get distracted.
497
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:54,700
Like super easy.
498
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:58,700
Whatever you get a Twitter notification, I'll who's in new ride or whatever, you know, yeah.
499
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:03,700
For me, it's like, I open up YouTube and I just go down like a rabbit hole of like,
500
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:04,700
random thing.
501
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:05,700
I get it.
502
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:06,700
I get a doctorate.
503
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:07,700
I say this all the time.
504
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:11,700
I have a doctorate in three million different things because of YouTube.
505
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:12,700
Oh yeah.
506
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:13,700
Tonight.
507
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:19,700
It might be how to change the oil on a 1997 Chris Vicks El Camino or something.
508
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:23,700
Tomorrow, it'll be how to make imminent brownies or something.
509
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:24,700
Like it's never the same.
510
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:25,700
There's no pattern.
511
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:30,700
But I get, yeah, I'll like, I'll lock in and then I get distracted and I go back and forth.
512
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,700
And I always say like, it took me eight hours edit this and they're like, did it really?
513
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,700
And I was like, well, no, it took me 30 minutes, but seven and a half hours.
514
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,700
I was screwing off, but doing something.
515
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:40,700
That's your escape.
516
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:41,700
Yeah.
517
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:48,700
That's the, I mean, I think it's very for to have a healthy mental state.
518
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:50,700
You need to have that escape in life.
519
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:53,700
And I feel like a lot of people don't have that right now.
520
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:56,700
A lot of people, I mean, yeah, you're editing videos and that's your thing.
521
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,700
A lot of people are just like locked in on their phones.
522
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:01,700
They don't go outside and touch the grass and kids my age.
523
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:07,700
And it's like, you know, for me, I used to kind of eat this big, you know, I was a high school guy.
524
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:09,700
Like I all, I loved high school.
525
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:12,700
Like I was on these kids who loved going to high school.
526
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:14,700
I was, I'm not, I was on homeschool or anything like that.
527
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:22,700
I went to real school and I, I made friends, played basketball, went to all the students sections was in student council, student leadership.
528
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:25,700
I was, I was one of those kids that was really involved in high school.
529
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:32,700
And I think that adjustment from, you know, you go having all this, you know, structure of your day and everything.
530
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:38,700
And that was my kind of six hours to not be embracing and different life, like we said.
531
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,700
And then you go from that and having nothing.
532
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:49,700
And I think for me, it's been a good thing because it's been like, I'm in more, I get not say more involved in race because I was really involved in racing before.
533
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:54,700
I just, I think you take more time to think about things and you're like, dude, how can I get fast?
534
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:58,700
Not that I wasn't doing the same thing at school. It's just like you have so many other distractions, I guess.
535
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:02,700
I mean, you still got to be a kid. You still got to go to homecoming. You still got to go to prom.
536
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:08,700
I missed races for prom and this year, well, it got canceled. I was going to go to a race, but I went to prom.
537
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,700
So, but you got, you got to do that stuff. I mean, you got to be a kid. You got to live life.
538
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:18,700
I think, you know, it's one of the most important things is a race that I've learned is, you know, how to be on team sport.
539
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:23,700
You know, it's a team sport, you know, me, my dad, AJ, my mom, my sister, you know,
540
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:29,700
it's just my family. I live it and we were either, we're either winning it or wearing it.
541
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:37,700
I mean, that's every night with us, honestly. And, you know, as a kid, I've really learned how to be on team.
542
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:43,700
And it takes more than just me to make this thing work more than just my dad, more than just AJ, you know,
543
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:49,700
my sister's run the t-shirt deal, my mom's made sure we have everything packed, you know, cooler.
544
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:53,700
And, you know, she's made sure she grab your toothbrush or whatever, something dumb.
545
00:44:53,700 --> 00:45:01,700
And, you know, my dad, he's, he's working every day at home and then he's driving with me to Ohio, driving the semi and being wherever,
546
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:05,700
whenever, and he's rolling valves and, you know, AJ's doing the weekly maintenance.
547
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:12,700
And, you know, one of the nice things is I used to do all the weekly maintenance by myself just because that's how it went on.
548
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:18,700
But now having the shop in Ohio, you know, AJ's taken a lot of pressure off me and that's really, I think, reflected in my racing,
549
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:25,700
honestly, not where I'm, I've still come down here a few days a week and everything, but he's really taken a lot of pressure off me.
550
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:29,700
And, you know, my family as a whole, we're talking about stuff a lot better.
551
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,700
And I'm having that time away from racing to reset.
552
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:36,700
And that's kind of my new thing is it's like, I used to have school to reset.
553
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:43,700
Now it's, I'm back at home and I'm at college and I'm with my family and I'm at work and I'm just thinking, you know,
554
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:45,700
what can I do to make myself better?
555
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:51,700
Even though the car is not right here, I really got to focus on a lot of other things, you know, sponsorship proposals or, you know,
556
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:56,700
Tic-Tac, dumb Tic-Tac videos, like we're talking about spotlight videos before this on Snapchat, you know, one of mine like blew up.
557
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:57,700
So we're talking about that.
558
00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:59,700
And, you know, I'm sure it's the same of you.
559
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:02,700
I mean, like you have your work and you have your work.
560
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:04,700
I mean, and you got to separate those two.
561
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:09,700
I mean, you have your media company and you have your actual work, you know, your job.
562
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:10,700
So, yeah, for now.
563
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:12,700
Well, yeah, yeah, that could change tomorrow.
564
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:13,700
It could change this weekend.
565
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:14,700
You never know.
566
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,700
Yeah, we'll see where that one goes.
567
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:23,700
Like the day the day that I quit having a job and I focus on the media full time will be like a revolutionary day in my life.
568
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:31,700
But you mentioned prom and like all that and, you know, missing a race to go to prom.
569
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:36,700
But then you also mentioned the structure of high school.
570
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:37,700
Oh, yeah.
571
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:53,700
And that is something that I think so many people don't appreciate for like younger listeners or if like the younger generation out there, you know, it's a lot of like, can't wait to graduate, can't wait to get out of here.
572
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:54,700
No.
573
00:46:54,700 --> 00:47:00,700
And it's like now, like now at 27, I would kill to be 16 and in school again.
574
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:01,700
Oh, yeah.
575
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:07,700
The only worry I had was make it to class, do my homework and go to practice.
576
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:08,700
But your only responsibility.
577
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:09,700
It's the only responsibilities.
578
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:11,700
Now I'm like, I got to work.
579
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:12,700
I got to pay bills.
580
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:13,700
I got to do this.
581
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:14,700
I got to do that.
582
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:20,700
And for me, you know, and you know, it's going to circle is all come full circle here.
583
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:21,700
Oh, yeah.
584
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:28,700
When I graduated high school, I had about two months of summer.
585
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:34,700
And then I went off to the world's training for the Marine Corps and I entered that whole world of my life.
586
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:39,700
I did not realize the structure that I needed in my life until I joined the Marine Corps.
587
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:42,700
And I was like, this is phenomenal.
588
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,700
Like it is structured.
589
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,700
I know exactly what I need to do every day.
590
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:47,700
I know who to talk to.
591
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:49,700
And it was super nice.
592
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:58,700
And, you know, I did that for eight years of my life, basically.
593
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:00,700
And it was every day was structured, every day was structured.
594
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:07,700
And as you go through it and you pick up, you know, rank and stuff, it changes a little extra structure.
595
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:17,700
But when I got out back in December and moved back up here, the absence of structure through me for a
596
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:22,700
whole new world when that I never thought it would have, because I was so used to it.
597
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:29,700
Like from the day I started school until December 17 of last year, every day of my life was structured.
598
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,700
And then as soon as I came up here, the structure went away.
599
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:39,700
And I was like, well, like, literally at home, like on my phone, just putting my thumbs like I even scroll and just
600
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:42,700
twirling like, what am I, what am I, what am I doing today?
601
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,700
Start questioning yourself.
602
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,700
And like, I was just listening and stuff.
603
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:53,700
And like for me, it's that structure is part of like what I have to have.
604
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:54,700
Yeah.
605
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:57,700
And for a while there, I didn't have it.
606
00:48:57,700 --> 00:48:59,700
I was free balling it.
607
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:01,700
I was like, I'm going to go do this.
608
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:03,700
I'm going to do this and this and this and that.
609
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:10,700
And like now, like here in the last, probably two weeks, I've kind of started the structure things a little bit more, you know,
610
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:14,700
we're going to record an episode this night, record an episode that night, it's going to release this night, that night.
611
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,700
And things will change as needed.
612
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:19,700
Like TJ's episode was not intended to release on the Monday.
613
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:20,700
It was supposed to release on the Thursday.
614
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:22,700
Like it was supposed to be.
615
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,700
But like, I didn't have the episode finished on the Thursday.
616
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:26,700
I wanted it to.
617
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:28,700
And I was like, I'm not releasing this at 7pm.
618
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:30,700
I push it to Monday.
619
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:32,700
It just happened to be that that was international podcast day.
620
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:34,700
So it kind of worked out.
621
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:36,700
But like that wasn't intended.
622
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:43,700
But like, I, I, I want to structure things so at least like I can set like in my head timelines and stuff like that.
623
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:48,700
And I've also, excuse me, I structure things.
624
00:49:48,700 --> 00:50:00,700
I've realized that it's easier for me to hit timelines, schedule timelines, and then a lot time for myself.
625
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:06,700
When I don't structure things, I feel like I am running around kind of like a chicken with its head cut off.
626
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:08,700
And I'm like, I gotta do, gotta do that, gotta do that.
627
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:18,700
And then by the time I get it all done, I like, I sit down and I'm like, all right, let me, I'm going to go get a milkshake from the local dairy queen or something.
628
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,700
And I'm going to, and I look at my watch and it's, it's like 1130 at night.
629
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:26,700
And I'm like, oh, I'm not doing that anymore because they've been closed for four hours.
630
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:28,700
And then it's like, like, I still go to sleep.
631
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:38,700
And when I structure things, I find that I'm getting more time to myself to like go do things that I enjoy and stuff like that.
632
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:44,700
And now, you know, racing is kind of coming in and so that opens up Friday and Saturdays.
633
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:46,700
And it's going to open up Sundays.
634
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:48,700
Sadly, sadly, yeah, it sucks.
635
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:55,700
It sucks for me too, because it's like, you know, now I don't have anything to do on the weekends that I can, you know,
636
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:59,700
but at the same time, it's also like what opens up those days to go do other things.
637
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:03,700
And I think I've mentioned in your previous episodes, I got season tickets to the walleye.
638
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:05,700
So like, I'm going to go to those games.
639
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:07,700
I told Zane and I'll say the same thing to you.
640
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,700
Like, if you ever want to go to a game, let me know.
641
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:10,700
I got tickets.
642
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:11,700
You know, I drive here anyway.
643
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:12,700
So it's a matter of.
644
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,700
I told Zane, I was like, hey, man, if you want to go to a game, let's go.
645
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:16,700
We'll just go up there.
646
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:17,700
I got season tickets.
647
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,700
You tell me what day and we'll figure it out.
648
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:22,700
But like, go do that stuff and all that.
649
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,700
Basically I'm full, I'm full my whole Q and a half walleye spoons with people.
650
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:26,700
So I'm so, so what?
651
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:29,700
I guess I should, if there's any bad общем.
652
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:48,440
other than that, I'm like, OK, hey,
653
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:38,700
I mean, it's, it's valuable, very valuable value because it doesn't make more money.
654
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,700
I know people can think about it as good at the game.
655
00:51:40,700 --> 00:51:42,700
But I was worked out, like, you know,
656
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:46,700
when you get on a scaling's goal in just around like one day,
657
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,100
look like, we're going to get to a shot.
658
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,180
I knew, like I was a two way, ESDB operates,
659
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:58,240
Yeah, I'm going to the races. I kind of like I told you about that like now. It's like yeah in retrospect
660
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,220
I would have changed things up maybe a little bit
661
00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:07,160
Knowing what I know now, maybe not but you know like but just things like that like you know next year
662
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,520
It can be a little bit more conscious about it. You know, I think
663
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:15,020
If things go away that I kind of picture them going and you know, I'm not gonna drop any
664
00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:20,060
Early news, but there's a couple things that I've kind of been thinking about you know doing to
665
00:52:20,060 --> 00:52:23,360
Wouldn't build the brand up a little bit but kind of like
666
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:26,380
Boost, you know represent yourself more
667
00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:32,660
represent but boost things up a little bit and you know kind of support this a little bit so I don't have to you know
668
00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:36,460
Spend 56 hours a week at a day job
669
00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:41,420
Paying the bills because like that and that's part of it too and we'll dive in that here in a second
670
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:45,380
But like if I could get away from that, you know by doing other things that maybe you know
671
00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:49,940
Let's say it takes me 12 hours to do it, but once I'm done with it. I can just
672
00:52:51,820 --> 00:52:53,660
Let it you know
673
00:52:53,660 --> 00:52:57,340
Pay the dividends or pay off or whatever over the course of time
674
00:52:57,340 --> 00:52:58,180
I'm gonna do it
675
00:52:58,180 --> 00:53:03,980
Whereas if I gotta do 12 hours every single day for three months to get the dividends and the dividends really maybe don't add up
676
00:53:03,980 --> 00:53:05,980
I ain't gonna do it
677
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:09,500
I lost the train of thought that I was gonna go with that
678
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:17,420
But yeah, I mean you're yeah, like right now. Yeah, here it is 56 hours working a day job. Oh, I got lost there
679
00:53:18,620 --> 00:53:21,120
But you know you I work a day job and
680
00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:25,060
Then I go to the racetrack on the weekends
681
00:53:25,060 --> 00:53:30,980
I do the video stuff and I've mentioned another episode, you know, I spend all day Sunday editing and stuff like that and like now
682
00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:35,460
You know, there's not as many races on the weekends, but since I've entered
683
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:38,860
The podcast kind of into that fold, you know
684
00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:46,740
a rundown of what this week is gonna look like for me Monday, I worked from eight to eight got home and
685
00:53:47,260 --> 00:53:48,580
I
686
00:53:48,580 --> 00:53:53,020
Think I went to bed immediately on Monday. I was just I was dead. I was tired. I went to military tonight before us
687
00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:58,860
I was tired. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense last night worked. Well, I yesterday worked from eight to six
688
00:53:59,340 --> 00:54:05,100
And then my dad and I do an indoor shooting league at Lake airy arms in Sundaski at six or he's pretty good time
689
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:09,380
But then we eat there afterwards. They do five dollar burger night. So oh
690
00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:12,700
Lake airy arms says it's called the caliber club. You gotta be a member
691
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:15,100
But if you do a league you get into the but gotta be a member
692
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:18,860
It's a good time. It's five dollars. We can do get at the cafe
693
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:24,580
They got like an exclusive club and they have a cafe like what they're one the same but so we go there and
694
00:54:25,060 --> 00:54:28,780
We leave there usually about 8 p.m. After we do our shooting and eat dinner or whatever
695
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:32,380
So I work from eight basically eight to six and I'm at the range from six to eight
696
00:54:32,380 --> 00:54:36,060
I get home and the last night I opened up
697
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:43,340
You know a podcast episode edited it got about 15 seconds into it and realized I was like I didn't eat dinner
698
00:54:43,340 --> 00:54:47,700
Well, I'm still a little bit hungry. So I'm gonna get a snack or something and then I
699
00:54:48,620 --> 00:54:54,100
Put my laptop on the cardboard box next to the bed that I'm using as like a little table and I fell asleep
700
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:59,420
I was like I didn't get anything out of it. So now it's Wednesday. I worked eight from six
701
00:54:59,420 --> 00:55:06,100
We're recording this episode. This is you know gonna go probably like 9 30 10 before we get out of here
702
00:55:06,820 --> 00:55:09,260
Drive home. I'm gonna have to edit that episode tonight
703
00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:12,740
So probably won't go to bed till like one in the morning two in the morning and then tomorrow
704
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:17,540
I work from eight to eight again. Oh, I work nine so I get well. I also have to drive three hours. Yeah
705
00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:21,220
So what I'll probably do tomorrow is
706
00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:27,420
Work and I'll stay up to like three in the morning to knock out whatever else I have to do because I'm supposed to be off
707
00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:30,100
On Friday. Oh, okay, and I usually don't take Fridays off
708
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:34,300
So usually work a little bit on Fridays because that's a you know in the car business. It's a good day to sell cars
709
00:55:35,140 --> 00:55:38,820
But I'll probably take all of tomorrow off make go play around to go off in the morning
710
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:41,340
Like Friday's kind of like my decompressed day, right?
711
00:55:41,820 --> 00:55:45,780
But I know that I got a couple video projects. I owe some people so edit those out
712
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:49,500
All of that stuff and then free mats racing the late model show
713
00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:55,260
So I'm gonna go to that just because I really need some dirt truck footage except it's
714
00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:57,140
Slacking on that. That's the best. That's the best
715
00:55:57,140 --> 00:56:02,900
Um, and you know, I got a couple late model guys, you know that I'm you know talk to and in friends with so I'll go that
716
00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:05,380
So you got that Friday night
717
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:09,220
So that'll run me to about 11 and then Saturday comes around I work from
718
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:11,660
eight to three on Saturday and
719
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:15,320
Then you got Lawrenceburg you sack
720
00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:19,540
So we're gonna go it goes a fan for that. So we're gonna drive down there
721
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:23,500
Drive up so that'll be an all night thing. So then Sunday comes around
722
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:25,500
I
723
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:29,820
Out well no, I got I got free mod on Friday. They gotta edit oh
724
00:56:30,580 --> 00:56:37,620
Turned out so I'll spend most my Sunday editing and then you know, we got a little get together going out with some friends on Sunday
725
00:56:37,620 --> 00:56:42,420
So I'm gonna go to that at four o'clock and that'll run till who knows how late so like my entire week
726
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:49,540
My time schedule is eaten up like I got no free time to really do anything and it's like, you know
727
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:57,180
There's your structure though. It is. There's some structure, but the part of the problem with that structure is it's a never-ending structure
728
00:56:57,180 --> 00:57:00,740
We're when I was in the military at least the structure was like well at 5 p.m
729
00:57:00,740 --> 00:57:05,460
You're off working you have from 5 to 7 in the morning the next day to do whatever you want to take thing
730
00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:09,860
Well, this is right structure from the time you wake up the time you get a bed
731
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:15,180
And it's a good grind then it teaches you a lot about you know yourself a whole for sure
732
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:22,220
When you do that weekend and week out, which is you know what it was during racing season you got to get to it and you're like brother
733
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:25,540
Where's the rain like?
734
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:30,740
Wait, I'm waiting for the rain. I need a break type thing and then now we're into the point where you get it
735
00:57:31,780 --> 00:57:35,420
But it's you know it when you do it and you're that busy
736
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:38,700
You lose
737
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:45,140
The like the personal and the social life and the good thing about them for sure the media side is that you're it's a pretty
738
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:48,300
Social gig to begin with because you talk to a lot people with the race
739
00:57:49,540 --> 00:57:51,460
You're at the track few times. I didn't see
740
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:56,540
Yeah, I wanted to talk to you wanted to see you and you know like I enjoy talking to enjoy seeing you so yeah
741
00:57:56,540 --> 00:57:58,900
and part of my issue too is like I like like
742
00:58:00,020 --> 00:58:03,180
Once I started the track now I lock in I'm like I just go
743
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:08,860
Oh, yeah, I hang out by myself and like because I think when I was in Texas and you know I've talked about the media scene
744
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:13,420
That was kind of how that whole gig was like you with a band you yeah
745
00:58:13,420 --> 00:58:19,320
Like you when you were doing the show when they were playing and you were doing like the photos and stuff
746
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:25,380
You kind of had to like lock in and lock everybody out because like you would be surprised you would think like
747
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:32,220
At a concert or whatever that like people would be like oh I guys working. We're gonna leave him alone. No no no no
748
00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:36,220
They that's the person they target. That's the party out. They don't leave you alone
749
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:41,060
Like you'd be mid-show and these people back take a photo of us and it's like I'm working
750
00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:46,140
But you do it anyway because yeah, it's you know, let's say it's a girl that's attractive
751
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,540
Oh, yeah, but like you know, it's
752
00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:51,980
Yeah, they they there's so many distractions there
753
00:58:51,980 --> 00:58:57,180
So like if you don't lock in like you get distracted and I've taken that mentality up here. It's like I go the infield
754
00:58:57,820 --> 00:59:01,100
I'm locked in I'll say you know, I'll talk to a couple people if they come up to me
755
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,140
But like I stand there and I'm just like okay
756
00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:07,740
And then between races I put my camera on the barrier get on my phone kind of swipe swipe through like
757
00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:13,780
Twitter whatever see what updates are going on other tracks cars push off. I'm right back to it and it's like that and
758
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,720
Then you know after the races I kind of walk the pits
759
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,420
I'll go grab my stuff or whatever and sometimes I get free month this year with shoes races over
760
00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:22,420
I just leave because I'm like, I don't play me
761
00:59:22,620 --> 00:59:26,540
I'm out like I got that drive back and everything that kills you
762
00:59:26,540 --> 00:59:32,100
I got no reason to stay or anything and I know I went to Frickers one night with you know a group of them
763
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:36,020
And that was a good time and stuff, but like for me. It's races over
764
00:59:36,020 --> 00:59:38,940
I'm out. I'm going home and you know at the only time
765
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:42,780
I'm really socials before the race and it's kind of just like I'm here a little early
766
00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:45,460
Let me kill some time and stuff like that, but you know the
767
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:49,860
The racing it's there's some sociality there or social life
768
00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:56,740
So you talk there and then obviously like you know if I were to close my phone now open up in 24 hours
769
00:59:56,740 --> 00:59:59,860
I probably have like eight friend requests from people I have no idea who they are
770
00:59:59,860 --> 01:00:05,220
But like they're in racing or something. It is a good time. I try to keep my Facebook a little close held
771
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:08,340
But like I'm kind of opening up a little bit now, but it's like, okay a friend request
772
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:12,500
I'm like, okay cool like people at least know the name or like they see it or whatever and that's cool
773
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:17,260
But like I cannot have a dating life right now because like there's no way I could ever make
774
01:00:17,260 --> 01:00:19,980
I don't want to say that I can't ever make time, but it'd be like
775
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:26,740
Hey, let's go out for dinner tomorrow. I'm like, I'm busy dog. I can't right like I can't like I
776
01:00:28,420 --> 01:00:34,140
I've been talking to someone for a couple weeks now and it's like, you know, we're trying to like line up schedules to like
777
01:00:34,140 --> 01:00:39,940
Oh, it's impossible. I can't like I just when they're when they're free. I'm busy. I'm free. They're busy
778
01:00:39,940 --> 01:00:43,940
That's how it always goes. Yeah, and we're like, well, we'll work out eventually eventually it'll be alright
779
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:48,260
I think like I'm like, I'm the only person that's got this problem and I talked to other people and they're like now
780
01:00:48,260 --> 01:00:51,420
That's the same way brother. I'm like, like I don't have any time and I'm like
781
01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:54,900
I think with race it's a little more exemplified because I feel like some people are just like
782
01:00:55,100 --> 01:01:01,660
Six to six and they're like, I don't want to go out after that and we're like we're probably six to about six the next morning
783
01:01:01,660 --> 01:01:08,660
With no sleep. So no same deal and you lose the weekends, which is when most people have like availability to do things
784
01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:17,460
They're like, I we're going out Saturday night and you're like that race track. Yeah, all my friends. Honestly, I'm back at college, you know
785
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:22,300
Most my friends went away most are you know, Northern Michigan, Michigan
786
01:01:23,020 --> 01:01:27,820
Some are kind of closer colleges and I visit some of them sometimes but dude
787
01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:34,700
They they know like I'm like they invite me to something on weekend and it's about like a 90%
788
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:37,020
I'm gonna say no, I'm racing like cuz
789
01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:41,580
like I said, I've chose that and for sure you you lose out on that
790
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:49,060
Social kind of life, but you got to find in other places. Honestly and sometimes I've made a little bit of time, you know
791
01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:52,420
Sometimes, you know, like I said high school football games Friday night if I'm not racing
792
01:01:52,420 --> 01:01:55,500
I'm there and you know, you see some of the people but you don't see you're really close friends
793
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,940
And it's like man, I feel bad, you know, I'm not hanging out with these guys
794
01:01:58,940 --> 01:02:04,020
But I think you know as I've grown, you know, I've lost friends because they're like, man
795
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:07,920
You ever want to hang out with me or whatever and it's like dude, that's just I don't have time like
796
01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:12,340
Seriously, I don't have time at all and same thing with like girlfriends or whatever
797
01:02:12,340 --> 01:02:18,900
You know, I had I had a thing going on halfway through summer and you know, you get you get something going like that
798
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:19,820
and it's just
799
01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:26,460
It's tough to first of all make time and second of all like you got to get them introduced to this world and like
800
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:30,100
They got to understand, you know racing comes first. No, I mean no offense
801
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:34,940
But it does for the people out there, you know for me, you know, it comes first and you know
802
01:02:35,060 --> 01:02:37,060
It's what I've chosen to do and
803
01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:40,580
You know, if you're in with me for that life
804
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:43,700
Get ready because it's about to be really exciting
805
01:02:43,700 --> 01:02:48,940
But if you're not, you know, Sayonara, you know, I'm on my own path, you know, it's my it's my thing
806
01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:53,500
So you got to understand my thing and if you're not in it for the long run, say yeah
807
01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:58,260
Yeah, I can say at least the racing media scene is a lot more friendly to
808
01:02:59,780 --> 01:03:01,980
Romantic life than the
809
01:03:02,620 --> 01:03:10,020
The band scene was like you I can I can like talk to somebody and be like, yeah, I'm going on the racetrack tonight
810
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:12,020
And they're like, okay, have fun, you know, whatever
811
01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:14,780
It was you know
812
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:19,500
When I was at the band it was like, oh, we're doing a show and they're like, oh, well, we're at like
813
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,900
We're doing at this this bar nightclub or whatever and they're like, oh, was it busy?
814
01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:27,580
I was like, oh, it's like 500 people there and they're like, oh and you're like you're kind of like thinking
815
01:03:27,580 --> 01:03:30,140
I was like, I know exactly what they're thinking. How many girls are there? Yeah
816
01:03:31,220 --> 01:03:36,220
They're they're two totally different things like racing at least is way more friendly to that of like, you know
817
01:03:36,220 --> 01:03:39,500
There's not gonna be 500. Yeah, you're on country fans
818
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:42,780
Not within 20 square feet just within maybe two acres
819
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:48,140
And like the nice thing about the racing side to from a media standpoint is like
820
01:03:48,820 --> 01:03:50,820
Nobody I shouldn't say nobody
821
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:54,980
Nobody is throwing themselves at me to get access to
822
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:59,060
Racers or somebody like that when I was with the band
823
01:03:59,780 --> 01:04:07,740
They would throw themselves at you because they knew you were in with the band and you were away to get with the band like
824
01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:10,140
Oh, true racing at least like
825
01:04:10,140 --> 01:04:14,540
You know, there's this idea like after the race over you go to the pitch you can meet them hang out with them stuff like that
826
01:04:14,540 --> 01:04:17,060
Oh, yeah, sure in the music scene. It was like
827
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:23,540
It was basically a question of how do we get on the tour bus? How do we get, you know, backstage type things?
828
01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:29,140
And it was like like like those gruntries, right? Yeah, it's like oh, it's the it's the media guy. He's he's he's the access
829
01:04:29,140 --> 01:04:31,540
It was stuff like that and you're just like
830
01:04:32,540 --> 01:04:38,460
This is this is really annoying. This is about the 20 time this week. Yeah, and then like people will just ask you the wildest things
831
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:44,860
And you're like, oh god, I'm like so over this like just let me let me be and let me just take my pictures get out
832
01:04:44,860 --> 01:04:47,700
Yeah, and I I have videos on my phone
833
01:04:48,540 --> 01:04:51,940
From a show one night that we did in weatherford, which is like
834
01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:55,740
3045 minutes west of Fort Worth Dallas Fort Worth and
835
01:04:56,460 --> 01:04:58,940
It's a video of me signing autographs
836
01:04:58,940 --> 01:04:59,900
Hey
837
01:04:59,900 --> 01:05:05,160
I'm like this old lady's hat and shirt because she was like well you're with the band too
838
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,980
so like you let me touch your camera so sign my shirt and I'm like
839
01:05:09,620 --> 01:05:14,980
You're not gonna have any idea what this signature is when you wake up tomorrow, but like you're asking for it
840
01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:17,500
So like I'm gonna do it's like it's a video of me
841
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:21,340
I'm signing the shirt and then the drummer for the bands goes. She's like yeah, he's our cowbell player
842
01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:22,260
just like
843
01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:27,540
You know soon it or whatever, but it's like I don't have that in the racing media world
844
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:29,900
And I'm kind of happy I don't because it is really annoying
845
01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:33,580
but like it's just you got to like
846
01:05:33,580 --> 01:05:39,540
Manage that social life like from a racing standpoint at least it's like oh, I'm gonna go do this and they're like well have fun
847
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:41,540
You know when me I was like
848
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,100
Yeah
849
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,860
You know it's like how are we here we go make people do it good on them, but
850
01:05:49,460 --> 01:05:54,020
It's a different different world for for sure, but I learned a lot doing it like I
851
01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:56,740
Think one thing a lot of people from a media standpoint
852
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:01,740
Struggle at or like when they first start is low light cinch like situations because the cameras
853
01:06:01,740 --> 01:06:03,740
You know they struggle at that
854
01:06:04,220 --> 01:06:10,460
You know point you you you turn the lights low or you get low light the cameras got a cop and say forward or whatever
855
01:06:10,460 --> 01:06:13,260
I think it's a trigger situation where for me
856
01:06:14,780 --> 01:06:22,700
Starting, you know really get my foothold in media with the band in low light situations with very rapid changing light situations
857
01:06:23,140 --> 01:06:26,180
taught me so much because it was like ah
858
01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:31,700
You can this like I can manipulate light this way or I can you know if I do this from this angle
859
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:36,140
I can do that I learned a lot there where I think moving up here into the racing side like
860
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:43,740
It's really beneficial because I have that experience where I think some people you know they're they're low light experiences
861
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:48,020
Just at the racetrack. It's yeah, it's I'm gonna do this where for me I
862
01:06:48,980 --> 01:06:54,340
Can be like okay. I got this light here shining this way I can you know angle this way I can go here
863
01:06:54,340 --> 01:06:57,060
You've had the experience I can run this setting to make up for it
864
01:06:57,060 --> 01:07:03,460
Yeah, I just I feel like it's it gave me a different skill set to use now. Obviously. I don't do photography
865
01:07:03,940 --> 01:07:05,860
Hardly ever now
866
01:07:05,860 --> 01:07:10,740
But if I wanted to like it's in my tool bag I could pull it out and be like right I learned this with the man
867
01:07:10,740 --> 01:07:15,220
Let me try it here, right and I did it at the fair race and it it worked out like pretty good like the photos
868
01:07:15,220 --> 01:07:19,460
I have from it. I want to release that one video with the car with the with Ferris wheel
869
01:07:19,860 --> 01:07:22,500
That was awesome through a lot of that. Yeah, I put a
870
01:07:22,500 --> 01:07:27,380
Filter or they call it a lot in premiere pro
871
01:07:27,380 --> 01:07:32,020
But put a lot over it and I was I added some like vintage flare to pretty basic at it
872
01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:34,020
I didn't want to go too hard on it, but like
873
01:07:34,260 --> 01:07:40,300
Stuff like that like yeah, it's like in in my head. I saw the idea for it now. It was like I got lights here cars here
874
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:45,820
Let me try this and then the video you know came out, right like a quick just you know video or whatever
875
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:49,940
Like I don't think I would have had that idea if it wasn't for
876
01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:51,940
You know
877
01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:56,500
Mmm the band scene and like looking at lights and being like I'm gonna try that like
878
01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:02,900
You know and I use tick tock a lot like I know a lot of people hate tick tock and they're like tick tock
879
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:07,700
I like tick tock sometimes I get scrolling too much, but I do enjoy tick tock. I'll admit
880
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:12,100
85% of any ideas that I have
881
01:08:12,740 --> 01:08:16,700
Are from a tick tock that I've seen it may not be the exact idea
882
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:22,340
But like the idea of the idea is from tick tock. I saw something on there and I was like I really like that
883
01:08:22,420 --> 01:08:24,420
I'm gonna try to
884
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:29,460
Do something very similar to that and it's like okay. Let me let me try this and like
885
01:08:30,820 --> 01:08:36,740
Usually I'm not as good because the ones I watch like people that professionally do that like right only and I'm like
886
01:08:36,740 --> 01:08:40,980
Oh, they're way they got it figured out, but like I'm like I'm gonna I'm gonna try that like
887
01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:45,780
As a creative we get in this idea of like oh don't ever steal work
888
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:48,980
Right in comedy. That's a really big thing. That's a stolen joke
889
01:08:50,260 --> 01:08:53,660
In the world of arts, I'm gonna say a controversial thing here
890
01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:58,580
Everything that you can do is stolen at some point in history
891
01:08:59,580 --> 01:09:04,500
Like there's nothing you can do in the art world at this point in in society and in life
892
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:09,420
That has not already been done by somebody else and or the idea that you got
893
01:09:09,420 --> 01:09:15,420
Came from an idea from somebody else who got their idea from somebody else and so forth and so forth and so forth like there is
894
01:09:16,420 --> 01:09:21,980
There's a trace that can be traced back to somebody right we're talking go back to Galileo Galileo
895
01:09:22,780 --> 01:09:24,620
probably stole a lot of his ideas or
896
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:31,420
The basis of his ideas from somebody else obviously, you know, he's one of the more historic people in the history of science
897
01:09:31,420 --> 01:09:37,940
But like you know you read about some of the things he had like he got the ideas from somebody else and let me just take this
898
01:09:37,940 --> 01:09:44,980
Yeah, think about how I could you know and so like I think a lot of people get caught up and I kind of want to steal work
899
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:49,100
You know really as long as you don't copy and paste it. I don't say it's stealing work
900
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:53,660
You're taking it's not plagiarism. No, you're taking inspiration from somebody else make it your own thing
901
01:09:53,980 --> 01:09:59,100
But it's okay to take inspiration somebody else and I do that a lot. I'll look at something. I'd be like I like that
902
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:00,780
I'm gonna do it
903
01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:06,020
Race real for example. Yeah, dude. His are his are all I love it love love their stuff
904
01:10:06,020 --> 01:10:08,920
He had a video of Indiana Midget Week
905
01:10:09,620 --> 01:10:11,620
on Tic-Tac
906
01:10:13,940 --> 01:10:15,940
This one was
907
01:10:16,180 --> 01:10:20,980
It was like a video game loading screen. Oh, okay, it's Midget Week. I looked at and I was like
908
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:23,700
that is a
909
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:28,020
Brilliant idea. I hate that you did it because now I can't do it because I would be stealing. Yeah
910
01:10:28,020 --> 01:10:30,820
I love what you did there and I'm thinking
911
01:10:31,420 --> 01:10:35,540
I'm gonna come back this one day. I'm gonna find a way to like do this but not make it
912
01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:39,140
Yeah, I love the idea. I like what you did there and one day
913
01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:44,060
I'll think of something of my own like kind of emulate that idea of like oh, it's a video game type thing
914
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:46,620
But like stuff like that. I look at I'm like that is fantastic
915
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:52,580
Now I have it in my head and I'll you know credit out to them or you know them whenever I get to that point
916
01:10:52,580 --> 01:10:58,700
But like great idea. I like it. I've drawn inspiration from it one day. I'm gonna come up with something of my own
917
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:03,460
But I'm gonna be like my inspiration for it came from him and stuff like that
918
01:11:03,460 --> 01:11:07,740
I think you know, that's a pretty big deal and I think that even you know applies to racing
919
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:09,060
You said you know being around
920
01:11:09,060 --> 01:11:11,740
We're gonna swing it back over racing here a little bit
921
01:11:11,740 --> 01:11:14,460
I feel like I feel like I thought like 30 minutes here
922
01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:19,260
But those are the thing a lot people said about the podcast they I think it was Zane's dad was like
923
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:23,900
I really liked how you talked to you and it was a good communication from both sides. So it's not it's not podcast
924
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:26,620
Just talking. Yeah, it's just talking with camera with camera. Yeah
925
01:11:27,260 --> 01:11:30,860
He did say that so I we try to keep it even but bring it back to the racing side
926
01:11:30,860 --> 01:11:32,860
You know
927
01:11:34,180 --> 01:11:39,940
Talked by inspiration from media you talked about you know being around Zane kind of learning from him and stuff and
928
01:11:40,860 --> 01:11:42,180
Obviously, I know like
929
01:11:42,180 --> 01:11:45,020
Talked, you know the episode before yours awesome black
930
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:46,500
It'll be out by the time this one releases
931
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,260
But you know I talked to him a little bit when his episode and you know
932
01:11:49,260 --> 01:11:53,660
Who he kind of drew inspiration from or who he looked up to and stuff like that
933
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:57,820
And I'm kind of gonna ask you like the same thing like obviously, you know Zane Wayne big part of it
934
01:11:57,820 --> 01:12:00,820
But like who else have you kind of looked at her, you know
935
01:12:01,340 --> 01:12:06,140
Seen and been like yeah, I really like the driving style. It's like me as a kid growing up
936
01:12:06,140 --> 01:12:08,140
It was like Steve Kinzer
937
01:12:08,140 --> 01:12:13,860
Jack Hodge shield or like the two biggest ones and you're like jack's out of control Steve's just good and it's like
938
01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:19,460
Jack's like the wild child like I just you know bang the boards type, you know
939
01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:22,540
inspiration they're like who do you have because like
940
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:28,260
Obviously, there's a almost a decade age difference between us and a lot can happen in a decade in race and so like who did you grow up?
941
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:34,980
Kind of idolizing or taking inspiration from and then as you've moved up like who have you kind of taken it from and
942
01:12:35,540 --> 01:12:38,660
Had as a like a mentor or whatever, you know when I started like
943
01:12:39,380 --> 01:12:43,860
In cord images and stuff, you know, like I said watching Zeb wise and you know, obviously having his quarter midgets
944
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:50,940
You know when he started spring cars that was a guy, you know, I loved watching and I just enjoyed that just because I had the connection
945
01:12:50,940 --> 01:12:54,660
You know, you felt like you know, you were there with them and you know, I think Zeb, you know
946
01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:58,940
I mean we're really like similar ages when we started everything and you know, honestly
947
01:12:58,940 --> 01:13:01,660
I think that was really cool for me to see as a younger kid
948
01:13:02,940 --> 01:13:09,980
Obviously, you know Zane's a good one to watch always but if we're talking like outlaw side of things and like national tour side of things, you know
949
01:13:10,940 --> 01:13:13,820
I love me some Donnie and Sheldon but
950
01:13:13,820 --> 01:13:20,500
At the same point my favorite driver to watch and watch in cars of an old in cars, maybe CJB and everything Brent Marks
951
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:26,020
I really enjoy watching Brent Marks, you know, I think me and him have a lot similar driving styles. I don't think he's
952
01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:33,180
He's very tactful the way he races and I mean he's he's not throwing I mean you see Geo and
953
01:13:33,820 --> 01:13:38,820
There's probably a lot of people in PA right now. They're like this guy. Yeah, I mean there's throw it
954
01:13:38,820 --> 01:13:41,820
They're throwing the cars around and you know, but I mean
955
01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:46,820
Brent Marks just so smooth with it and it's something like I always watch, you know, if you go watch
956
01:13:46,820 --> 01:13:50,820
I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere when he was in the red CJB car and it was at Aldora
957
01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:55,820
I don't remember what race it was but he diamonds one and two and three and four and
958
01:13:56,820 --> 01:13:58,820
I think it's I'm getting like fifth or fourth and
959
01:13:59,820 --> 01:14:03,820
I'm watching that and I'm about to go to Aldora and this is basically the same thing, you know, we're watching film
960
01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:08,820
We're not credit ideas off this but you know, we're watching film. We're we're seeing stuff like this and
961
01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:10,820
You know, he's diamond in three and four his diamond one two
962
01:14:11,820 --> 01:14:17,820
You know, I go to Aldora last year for the four crown and I'm running like last and he race and I was I was not great
963
01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:22,820
Honestly and I started diamond one two and three and four and I missed the transfer spot by one spot
964
01:14:23,820 --> 01:14:25,820
And we started up front to be made and I was like
965
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:31,820
I remember seeing this I remember the exact hand movements he made and how how smooth he is on the wheel and
966
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:35,820
You know, not that he's ran ever ever ran J&J
967
01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:39,820
You know, not that he's ran ever ever ran J&Js or anything similar that I've ran
968
01:14:39,820 --> 01:14:43,820
I mean, but he is just something to watch for me as a driver
969
01:14:43,820 --> 01:14:49,820
I really respect the way he can get the car to work and I think Donny's really interesting one to watch because the way he uses
970
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:56,820
The air when he is the best person air he can make the car work in the middle top bottom
971
01:14:56,820 --> 01:14:57,820
I don't care where he is
972
01:14:57,820 --> 01:15:01,820
He's always making that car work somewhere and that's why he's very like good on those half miles is
973
01:15:01,820 --> 01:15:07,820
He's always finding that little bit of air and and when he passes you he's taking the air off you because of where he has
974
01:15:07,820 --> 01:15:12,820
His car position that exact moment and that's a really like cool thing is a driver to see because it's like man
975
01:15:12,820 --> 01:15:14,820
I guess are doing that or man
976
01:15:14,820 --> 01:15:19,820
I guess they're chopping people after I slide them or whatever like that and you know and you learn like little things
977
01:15:19,820 --> 01:15:22,820
You pick up these bits and pieces and you and you're trying to think of this as you're in the car
978
01:15:22,820 --> 01:15:26,820
And you know, you don't have time to think really in the car as you just kind of react I should say but
979
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:33,820
For me I replicate kind of like just looking at other drivers and you know, I did a video on tiktok facebook and all that about
980
01:15:33,820 --> 01:15:39,820
Just going back and watching film. I'm watching, you know, my whole night from Wayne County and go through my hot lap session
981
01:15:39,820 --> 01:15:44,820
It's like, ah, you know, I could have been a little bit better there. I kind of didn't run the fence entering the turn
982
01:15:44,820 --> 01:15:48,820
I slid up to it a car length and you know criticizing myself as like
983
01:15:48,820 --> 01:15:53,820
A driver because you know in my family, you know, it's just I don't my dad's like
984
01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:57,820
I don't in my family, you know, it's just I don't my dad didn't race cars
985
01:15:57,820 --> 01:16:01,820
My dad started off and race BMX all his life and he got me into racing
986
01:16:01,820 --> 01:16:10,820
So I don't have that kind of driver coach I should say like it's just it's just family and and the family is is not racing background
987
01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:16,820
But first generation racer which is insane nowadays. I think Chris talked about that and stuff
988
01:16:16,820 --> 01:16:20,820
I mean, it's really unique to see honestly and
989
01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:25,820
I think just going back and watching my film like I said, you know made the video I watched my heat race then and
990
01:16:25,820 --> 01:16:30,820
You know, I was running the bottom I tried something different because I was running third and I wanted to win the heat race
991
01:16:30,820 --> 01:16:35,820
So I was trying to bottom in three and four and I was like, yeah, you know, I wish I was stay up top
992
01:16:35,820 --> 01:16:40,820
And even though I was getting the ground on the guy in front of me, I wish I was stay up top
993
01:16:40,820 --> 01:16:47,820
So I knew what I had for the feature and you know, you learn just bits and pieces and you and just working on yourself as a driver
994
01:16:47,820 --> 01:16:53,820
And you know, I think now is just the biggest thing is just staying kind of fit almost for me
995
01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:58,820
I used to have basketball season to keep me really in shape. I used to play basketball every month. I wasn't racing every day
996
01:16:58,820 --> 01:17:06,820
I wasn't racing. I had practice basically from, you know, October to March and I had practice every day
997
01:17:06,820 --> 01:17:12,820
I went to camps over the summer and all this stuff and it's kind of crazy how you know, that gets taken out of your life
998
01:17:12,820 --> 01:17:18,820
And you're like, dude, I need to get in better shape. It's like, you don't realize it until like, I guess it starts having your
999
01:17:18,820 --> 01:17:24,820
Get on breath coming out of a car or something like that. But I try to prime myself and not getting that worn out and always
1000
01:17:24,820 --> 01:17:31,820
Stay breathing in the car and staying more relaxed and if you stay relaxed and you breathe and you blink
1001
01:17:31,820 --> 01:17:37,820
Because sometimes I don't blink and I get a bunch of dust in my eyes. I'm crying after the races. Yeah, I know it's a rookie mistake
1002
01:17:37,820 --> 01:17:45,820
I know I'm gonna get chastised about it, but whatever. So I think it's just really just taking a step back
1003
01:17:45,820 --> 01:17:49,820
Looking at yourself as a person, looking at yourself as a driver and trying to fix your little mistakes on the track
1004
01:17:49,820 --> 01:17:56,820
And off the track and life and stuff like that. Yeah, it's you mentioned basketball
1005
01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:07,820
Thinking now and I'm like, what are you gonna say? I'm not gonna say anything, but like it's more like a, you know, you don't
1006
01:18:07,820 --> 01:18:15,820
You don't appreciate those things and what they do for you until you don't have them anymore. No, I have a lot of basketball stories
1007
01:18:15,820 --> 01:18:21,820
Honestly, I mean, I was I was a kid who, you know, I didn't I wasn't the star basketball player on the team
1008
01:18:21,820 --> 01:18:29,820
You know, I was a senior one of three seniors on a team who, you know, almost won the league or whatever and, you know, I wasn't the star
1009
01:18:29,820 --> 01:18:35,820
Basketball player was only these kids, you know, I'd get in, you know, the like at the end of the year, you know, we had our district champion
1010
01:18:35,820 --> 01:18:41,820
Or district championship and we were losing by 20 and I got put in and you know, it was my last few minutes on the basketball court
1011
01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:47,820
And I was only these kids, you know, the I guess the student section was just kind of champ my name and that was kind of a cool moment
1012
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:53,820
For me, but you get all these memories and I don't think in racing or in life
1013
01:18:53,820 --> 01:19:01,820
I will ever have another memory like that where the whole place is lit up for you and you're walking off the court and you know, your
1014
01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:09,820
Bodies are right there hugging and you know, I didn't have the best basketball experience in life, but you know, again, team sports teach you to be a team
1015
01:19:09,820 --> 01:19:17,820
Player and I think you really learned that throughout life and that really is a good thing to do is honestly
1016
01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:25,820
I wish I was still playing basketball me my buddies, you know, my cousins and my best friend actually we still play in a league every few weeks
1017
01:19:25,820 --> 01:19:31,820
We always go up to our local rec center and play people whenever I can, you know, because I'm usually racing or in Ohio or at work or whatever
1018
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:47,820
But you know, we're trying to stay in shape and trying to just have fun and you know, recreate that, you know, that competitive mentality because I'm a really competitive person obviously because I, you know, I race and all that and I'm just really I hate losing and I hate walking out of a 90 and being like
1019
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:57,820
I didn't learn anything and I just I wasn't great like when I if I learned something I come out of the night and I'm learning something and I, you know, get that hard charger you get that
1020
01:19:57,820 --> 01:20:14,820
Top five top three and we've talked about it and that really that that little like adrenaline boost in yourself is really something that can never be matched and especially, you know, I've lost out with basketball but I think I've gained it was racing and you know, me and AJ were talking
1021
01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:32,820
And we just finished fifth at Wayne County a few weeks ago and we came back and I was like, and we were, we were not we were content with that I guess. And, you know, I was like, we should have won. And he goes, yeah, he's like we just got fifth though and I was like, yeah, but should have won
1022
01:20:32,820 --> 01:20:50,820
And I think as a person I find myself wanting more at times. And, you know, I'm just but at the end of the day I'm just really content and happy with where I am and and sometimes as a person I don't take, I take that for granted you're you're out here and you're just not, you're not taking
1023
01:20:50,820 --> 01:21:07,820
What's happening? Nobody can see what's happening. This fly is we've had flies flying around us all episode here and they are just pestering Bobby right now like landing on his face and then going to his hair back to his face. He's like swatting away as he's trying to talk and I'm trying to
1024
01:21:07,820 --> 01:21:23,820
I'm trying to sit over here and not laugh. But I'm like, I can't. I can't watch anymore and not say something because they were they're meeting on me too and I was kind of like brushing them off and stuff like that. That specific one just would not leave you alone.
1025
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:39,820
But what I want to say there is on the basketball side, you know, you talked about the fitness part of it and then you kind of took it in a direction to that. You know, I want to talk about because we always talk, you know, I think we've we've talked about a couple of times on the
1026
01:21:39,820 --> 01:21:54,820
the podcast of like, you know, could you ever live without racing and you know, all that stuff and you know, so forth. But like one thing that you know, everyone says no, they can't without racing.
1027
01:21:54,820 --> 01:22:14,820
Oh, no, no, but I'm going to tie it into high school sports to or sports in general. I played baseball in school. It's about the only sport I ever stuck with. You don't in high school sports specifically in ones like baseball, we're pretty much everybody makes the playoffs.
1028
01:22:14,820 --> 01:22:24,820
You don't ever realize when the last game is going to be the last game and you go about it and you play and you play and you play and you go this game the last game.
1029
01:22:24,820 --> 01:22:37,820
And it it ends. It's over you lose and it doesn't for me. It didn't hit me at the end of the game. I was like, OK, cool, like games over. We lost rather playoffs like, you know, baseball is over.
1030
01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:47,820
And then I got on the bus and we were pulling out of the stadium and I looked back at the field and it was like.
1031
01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:55,820
That's the last time that I will ever play competitive fast pitch baseball. Yeah, like I'm not going to college for it. You know, I know what I'm doing after school.
1032
01:22:55,820 --> 01:23:09,820
Like that was it. Like that's the last time overplay and you're like, I don't know what I'm going to do with my life. And now it's like, yeah, do I need it? No. Would I absolutely love to play another game of competitive fast pitch baseball?
1033
01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:16,820
1000% like I did so pitch softball on base for a couple years and like it's cool. And it's fun. Yeah, but it's not the same.
1034
01:23:16,820 --> 01:23:34,820
It's not the same. Well, you do. I feel like so it's softball gets taken a little bit too competitive at times. But it's not the same. Yeah, like there's no, you know, the comradery of the teams not really there because it's a lot of just like, you know, some people are there for, you know, the
1035
01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:47,820
shits and giggles, some people are there to be competitive and some of us are just there because you know, we love the idea of baseball diamond or whatever. Whereas like on a baseball team or like the actual field in high school, it's like everyone's there for the love of the game.
1036
01:23:47,820 --> 01:23:56,820
They want to win. It's like a common goal. Everyone, you know, and yeah, and in school is to be people you grow up with your really good friends with and all that. And it's the same for basketball.
1037
01:23:56,820 --> 01:24:10,820
Like you go through it and basketball, I think, you know, if you compare baseball to basketball, basketball is a lot more atmosphere friendly because you go to like a high school baseball game unless you go to like a Texas school.
1038
01:24:10,820 --> 01:24:20,820
That's really big or something. I will text football. Good example. Like yeah, baseball doesn't have that atmosphere that basketball has. If you like I went to Margaret. I started graduate from. So castellia.
1039
01:24:20,820 --> 01:24:35,820
Margaret has got a really good basketball program, you know, and they're really good right now. They went to not state. There I think is regional basketball. The last round before state.
1040
01:24:35,820 --> 01:24:48,820
Oh, it's the final finals or semifinals or whatever for boys basketball. Okay. It's against Ottawa, Glandorf, which had last year's Mr. Ohio on their team.
1041
01:24:48,820 --> 01:25:07,820
Oh, okay. This is in the Stroh Center for Bowling Green. So this is a college college arena. They sold the place out like 4000 people. I mean, you're talking castellia, Ottawa, Glandorf, both schools that are, you know, district five or four or whatever it is, like smaller schools.
1042
01:25:07,820 --> 01:25:09,820
Yeah, selling out the stroke.
1043
01:25:09,820 --> 01:25:25,820
Going at it. And it's like the atmosphere is next to nothing for high school sport and you're like baseball would never have this just because it's baseball and it's the way it is. But like if I was, you know, if I was you in that situation and that was like this is my last basketball game ever.
1044
01:25:25,820 --> 01:25:42,820
There's so much to take in there and then when it's over, you know, at the game ends, you're like, Wow. And you're just so gonna like this is this is it like this is this is the last time I ever play this atmosphere is crazy, all this stuff.
1045
01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:55,820
And I think if you were to leave that, you know, after the fact that probably hits you a little bit harder where you had mentioned like with racing, you know, obviously racing is a pretty big part. And it's a I think it's a lot more of a commitment than you know, high school basketball is lifestyle wise.
1046
01:25:55,820 --> 01:26:11,820
But it's like, you know, you don't go to the racetrack, you know, at a local level at least and you know, pass for the lead and hear the whole crowd roar like Jason Johnson did it. You know, not like there's very few places in racing that I think can match that type of atmosphere.
1047
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:21,820
You know, to where if let's say you raced, you know, Friday night at Attica and it's the last, you know, and you didn't know it and it was the last race ever.
1048
01:26:21,820 --> 01:26:31,820
And you walked away from it. Obviously the lifestyle change is different, but like, you don't get the serenaded ending that you wait for basketball.
1049
01:26:31,820 --> 01:26:41,820
And like that Cinderella story being that you're like, you know, 18 at Freshman High School, like you've just recently gone through that. So it's yeah, it's like it's a different world. It's a different experience.
1050
01:26:41,820 --> 01:26:50,820
And we're kind of really going on some some tangents on this one. But I think, you know, that's good stuff to talk about because, you know, obviously, you know, we talk about it's not supposed to be about racing specifically about other things.
1051
01:26:50,820 --> 01:26:55,820
And you know, beyond beyond beyond.
1052
01:26:55,820 --> 01:27:07,820
But but you know, it's stuff like that. Like it's it's an interesting perspective to take and then like kind of talk about it because I think, you know, we've had discussion before racing is a very older crowd based right now.
1053
01:27:07,820 --> 01:27:16,820
There's a lot of, you know, old timers, you know, in the sport, not a lot of younger people and, you know, things are different from when they were kids.
1054
01:27:16,820 --> 01:27:26,820
And you know, it's it's a different world. So I think it's good for them to kind of hear some of that perspective of like, you know, I'm 18. I played my last basketball game. I was fit, which we'll touch on the next.
1055
01:27:26,820 --> 01:27:34,820
I was like, I was in good shape. And you know, like, now they don't have like, I don't have basketball and then I don't have the fitness aspect of it. And now I'm here and so it's interesting to hear that.
1056
01:27:34,820 --> 01:27:38,820
But I know TJ talked in his episode a lot about fitness and stuff. Yeah.
1057
01:27:38,820 --> 01:27:46,820
Basketball is a pretty heavy, you know, fitness wide sport, you know, a lot of running up and down and it can get physical at times.
1058
01:27:46,820 --> 01:27:56,820
So like, you have that to kind of keep you in shape and you said that you don't have that anymore. So like, gonna ask you kind of a similar question, you know, I had a TJ, like, what do you do now to kind of like stay fit or kind of just kind of stay healthy?
1059
01:27:56,820 --> 01:28:01,820
Because like, obviously, excuse me, obviously, like, there's a weight rule.
1060
01:28:01,820 --> 01:28:04,820
Oh, yeah. You want to be as close to the weight rules you can be without going over.
1061
01:28:04,820 --> 01:28:16,820
So for like, obviously, some like your age kind of younger, you know, you're not a heavier set guy or you know, anything like that. Like what are you doing to kind of maintain weight or you know, stay in shape?
1062
01:28:16,820 --> 01:28:29,820
Like I said, you know, my bad, my going my buddies playing basketball at the rec center. That's part of it. A lot of running. Honestly, you know, racing just usually get out of breath.
1063
01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:42,820
I mean, depends on the race depends on the track depends how you know, demanding it is at that point. But you get you get out of breath sometimes after heat races after qualifying qualifying.
1064
01:28:42,820 --> 01:28:52,820
I think somebody touched on that qualifying is very stressful because that sets up your whole night and you could be coming after qualifying and you're like, whoa, like what did I just go do?
1065
01:28:52,820 --> 01:29:08,820
Like I just slept the whole rest of the night and you put a lot of stress on that situation. So yeah, you tend to breathe harder and tend to really, I guess, physically make yourself more worn out just from using those two laps compared to the, you know, eight heat race laps.
1066
01:29:08,820 --> 01:29:20,820
Features are a little different sometimes, you know, a little bit longer, you really get worn out. But for me, it's usually I have really bad tendency of gripping the steering wheel really hard and my actually my forearms and hands will get tired.
1067
01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:31,820
So really just honestly, sometimes I just be working out my forearms or whatever. But I think it's just trying to find a good healthy lifestyle not eating a bunch of crap every day.
1068
01:29:31,820 --> 01:29:38,820
Sadly, I'm in Ohio and I can't have a lot of like home cooked meals a lot of the time. So you have to be eating some fast food, which sucks.
1069
01:29:38,820 --> 01:29:49,820
And sometimes I feel terrible after I eat it. You're like, why did I just do that? But you're trying to eat healthy. You're trying to stay healthier as a human, you know, stay running and doing stuff.
1070
01:29:49,820 --> 01:29:57,820
Like I said, I'm not always kids who stays inside. I'm always doing something. So always staying on my feet and, you know, never just sitting down.
1071
01:29:57,820 --> 01:30:07,820
I mean, maybe at the end of the day, you know, six, seven, eight o'clock right after dinner, my dad gets home at, you know, 645 and, you know, usually seven to eight, nine, we're out in the Barney.
1072
01:30:07,820 --> 01:30:20,820
They're working on the other car, working on this car if it's home and or, you know, doing house stuff. As AJ will tell you, you know, he had a little time off and his wife had a honey to do list for him.
1073
01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:30,820
And he was really not liking that, you know, you want to be always racing. So but usually we're doing something to benefit the house benefit racing doing something like that.
1074
01:30:30,820 --> 01:30:43,820
So you're always trying to soak up that little bit of physical activity and being outside all you can. And by the time you sit down, it's, you know, it's eight, nine o'clock, like I said, and by that time I'm working on something for racing.
1075
01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:49,820
I'd be like, you know, real or sponsorship proposal for next year or something along that lines.
1076
01:30:49,820 --> 01:30:55,820
And we're just watching the Tigers play baseball right now because we got it based on October for the Tigers as Zane shaking his head.
1077
01:30:55,820 --> 01:30:56,820
He seems happy about it.
1078
01:30:56,820 --> 01:31:04,820
I'm not a big Cleveland fan, but like, oh, they did lose today. By the way, three zero something like that. Yeah, three zero.
1079
01:31:04,820 --> 01:31:07,820
Tomorrow's another game. So don't worry about whatever.
1080
01:31:07,820 --> 01:31:19,820
No, so honestly, just trying to stay doing stuff. Keep your mind busy. Keep yourself busy. Be a busy body. I mean, you don't ever want to be sitting at home doing nothing.
1081
01:31:19,820 --> 01:31:28,820
I mean, you got to be out there in the world. You're always learning something. I mean, heck, you know, you could be cutting the grass and hit a rock and break a blade off a mower.
1082
01:31:28,820 --> 01:31:33,820
Totally didn't do this, but, you know, this could happen and you're like, well, should probably be doing that.
1083
01:31:33,820 --> 01:31:39,820
You know, you're always trying to do something to make your, my parents life easier, you know, my life easier.
1084
01:31:39,820 --> 01:31:43,820
So I think it's always just staying active, staying healthy in your mind and your body.
1085
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:52,820
Yeah, you did bring up one thing there. And we kind of, I think touched about it a little bit earlier, but you mentioned, you know, making reels and stuff.
1086
01:31:52,820 --> 01:32:00,820
You obviously you're active on, you know, Snapchat, TikTok, stuff like that. Just kind of staying in it, which is, you know, a really good thing.
1087
01:32:00,820 --> 01:32:09,820
And I know we talked on the, you know, Tyler's episode a little bit about, you know, that's kind of the new age way of promoting and stuff like that.
1088
01:32:09,820 --> 01:32:19,820
For you, like, what's, you know, one, what's your experience been like that? And then two, obviously, we're going to bring it up and there's about to be a lot of men that are like,
1089
01:32:19,820 --> 01:32:27,820
Ah, yes, finally, the good part that we've been tuning into your sister's got her stuff and the shirts and all of that.
1090
01:32:27,820 --> 01:32:33,820
So like, you got your stuff, she's got yours. Like, I mean, what is that like for you both you to like, one, manage all of that.
1091
01:32:33,820 --> 01:32:42,820
But then like to have it on completely different things, but at the same time hers seems to benefit you and then yours kind of benefit hers and vice versa.
1092
01:32:42,820 --> 01:32:47,820
Like, how's all that, you know, play into it or play into each other.
1093
01:32:47,820 --> 01:32:56,820
Yeah. So the reels and tick-tock things, I honestly, I love content creating and that that may sound like a little like, what's this kid doing with his life.
1094
01:32:56,820 --> 01:33:08,820
But no, I enjoy making videos. I enjoy showing people the backside of this. That's why I want to do this. I want to do this podcast. So bad. It's like, I want to see like, people should see what's happening outside of this racing deal.
1095
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:23,820
So I love to show that. I love to show people, you know, what actually goes into being a spring car team or whatever, you know, sometimes it's just little stuff, you know, had a tick tock blow up of me cleaning rims to make them shiny or something.
1096
01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:32,820
It was like at 20,000 views or something. It's like, dang, that felt good. Like you're like, I got like that. I think it's that stimulus of getting a like or whatever, you know.
1097
01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:39,820
So it's really interesting like that. And it's really a good thing to be doing, you know, keeping people informed.
1098
01:33:39,820 --> 01:33:46,820
And, you know, you never know when you're where when your next sponsor is going to come along. It could be through social media, it could be through person.
1099
01:33:46,820 --> 01:34:02,820
Someone could say, Hey, I saw your tick tock or, you know, real or something or you had one blow up. And as you I think Tanner Holmes is a great representation, you know, see what he's done, you know, his contents amazing and everyone else sees that and sponsors are, you know, willing to sponsor.
1100
01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:20,820
And he is, you know, 100, was it 10,000, 10s of thousands of followers and, you know, and the following he has is just insane. And as a racer, like you crave that, you know, you want to have that next sponsor, it's willing to see, you know, how many people are, you know, following you and seeing
1101
01:34:20,820 --> 01:34:32,820
your stuff and interacting like we were talking about before the podcast, you know, you want to you want to get that you want to get that going and that's very big thing for sponsors. And my sister, you know, she does a really good job with race day revive.
1102
01:34:32,820 --> 01:34:43,820
That's her clothing brand company and she's just been starting that this summer, honestly, and, you know, she's enjoying coming to the tracks where she has her stand set up outside of the track. She has my shirts for sale.
1103
01:34:43,820 --> 01:34:55,820
She's making money. I'm getting my shirts sold and, you know, getting those fans and still stands are like, Hey, that kid just got just want to heat raise her and I'm by shirt. It's like, that's cool.
1104
01:34:55,820 --> 01:35:11,820
Like that's cool that I know a kid or a fan or somebody went home with one of my t shirts and now is following my page and maybe maybe I didn't even talk to him, you know, and they just liked where I was racing and I think that's so cool that we could have those like little things in life where it's like, I didn't
1105
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:25,820
even know this guy and he knows me and as a racer, one of my goals I always say is I want to be like, I want to be known. I want to be known as a driver and I want to be known as a person and I want to be that, you know, guy people see on TV and they're like,
1106
01:35:25,820 --> 01:35:41,820
Dang, like this kid's pretty cool or whatever. So like I crave that and seeing that and trying to reflect that into, you know, reals, tiktoks, clothing and brands and stuff like that, you know, and my sister's done a really, really good job and super, super,
1107
01:35:41,820 --> 01:35:55,820
super, super blessed to have her on our side and, you know, she's really doing a great job and just so happy with how it's going. I mean, I set up the stand every time we get to the tracks and I spend about 15 minutes over there just making sure she's all good and she's happy to be there then
1108
01:35:55,820 --> 01:36:06,820
she's making money and I think it's making everything go a little bit smoother because like I said, people are coming in, you know, people get to know me, people get to know her and, you know, it's family deal.
1109
01:36:06,820 --> 01:36:09,260
and that's what people gotta understand is it's just,
1110
01:36:09,260 --> 01:36:11,900
you know, me, my mom, my dad, my sister, and AJ.
1111
01:36:11,900 --> 01:36:13,620
And that's the beautiful thing about
1112
01:36:13,620 --> 01:36:14,860
Spring Car Race, since we can do that,
1113
01:36:14,860 --> 01:36:17,140
and we have the ability to do that as a team.
1114
01:36:17,140 --> 01:36:20,020
Yeah, I know, I think, I haven't seen your show.
1115
01:36:20,020 --> 01:36:23,740
I think she was at the, one of the shows,
1116
01:36:23,740 --> 01:36:26,540
I only remember because I was with-
1117
01:36:26,540 --> 01:36:27,740
First Fremont show?
1118
01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:29,620
Maybe, yeah, it was one of those shows,
1119
01:36:29,620 --> 01:36:33,940
because I remember I was talking to Zane and Patty
1120
01:36:33,940 --> 01:36:35,860
and all them, and Patty had mentioned watching
1121
01:36:35,860 --> 01:36:38,660
the stand or whatever, and I didn't even know she was there,
1122
01:36:38,660 --> 01:36:40,900
but, you know, stuff like that.
1123
01:36:40,900 --> 01:36:42,740
Like, I think there's a lot of benefit
1124
01:36:42,740 --> 01:36:45,140
to having both you guys, you know, have,
1125
01:36:45,140 --> 01:36:48,260
you know, a pretty active social media platform
1126
01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:50,340
to promote and stuff like that.
1127
01:36:50,340 --> 01:36:51,180
Oh yeah.
1128
01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:54,500
You know, she's got her side, you have yours,
1129
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:56,700
like I said, they kind of benefit each other.
1130
01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:59,900
And then like, two, you know, I'm gonna ask,
1131
01:36:59,900 --> 01:37:01,380
kind of talk about this part of it too,
1132
01:37:01,380 --> 01:37:06,380
because like, there are things in life that like,
1133
01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:09,220
I've always said when I was in the Marine Corps,
1134
01:37:09,220 --> 01:37:11,380
I was like, the worst thing that ever happened
1135
01:37:11,380 --> 01:37:15,020
to anybody was have, you know, a brother or a sister
1136
01:37:15,020 --> 01:37:17,500
or somebody like in the same place or same workplace,
1137
01:37:17,500 --> 01:37:21,300
because it's almost like a distraction.
1138
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:23,780
And like, I know for you, like,
1139
01:37:23,780 --> 01:37:27,020
you two probably butt heads, and then like,
1140
01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:28,620
obviously like you had mentioned earlier,
1141
01:37:28,620 --> 01:37:30,940
like, you know, she's around the race team,
1142
01:37:30,940 --> 01:37:32,580
and then Zane and all that, like,
1143
01:37:32,580 --> 01:37:34,660
that so much is going on there.
1144
01:37:34,660 --> 01:37:37,740
Like, how do you like work through all that
1145
01:37:37,740 --> 01:37:39,980
or just like block it out or whatever you do?
1146
01:37:39,980 --> 01:37:43,180
Cause like, for me, like, I don't think I could be like,
1147
01:37:43,180 --> 01:37:45,220
too much, shut up, like, I don't want to hear it.
1148
01:37:45,220 --> 01:37:46,180
I don't want to hear it, goodbye.
1149
01:37:46,180 --> 01:37:47,540
No, yeah, no, for sure.
1150
01:37:48,500 --> 01:37:50,740
As a driver, I just, when you get to the track,
1151
01:37:50,740 --> 01:37:52,700
I'm pretty locked in, you know,
1152
01:37:52,700 --> 01:37:54,100
whatever you have to do to get locked in,
1153
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:56,300
some people listen to, you know, music.
1154
01:37:56,300 --> 01:37:58,660
I tried that, I mean, sometimes I feel like
1155
01:37:58,660 --> 01:38:01,220
I kind of look like a douche, like walking around with AirPods
1156
01:38:01,220 --> 01:38:02,780
in, but I think it's a good thing to do
1157
01:38:02,780 --> 01:38:05,900
to get your mental like state where you need to be.
1158
01:38:06,940 --> 01:38:10,340
But as a person, I just kind of let it all happen.
1159
01:38:10,340 --> 01:38:12,180
And you know, I have to deal with, you know,
1160
01:38:12,180 --> 01:38:13,220
maybe she needs something first,
1161
01:38:13,220 --> 01:38:15,500
and I have to run that up there, you know,
1162
01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:18,020
Zane's over in my trailer talking to my dad or something.
1163
01:38:18,020 --> 01:38:19,740
He needs to be doing fuel and something.
1164
01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:21,940
And you're just, you're trying to pick up these pieces
1165
01:38:21,940 --> 01:38:23,740
and you're trying to just make everything run
1166
01:38:23,740 --> 01:38:25,100
as smoothly as possible.
1167
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:27,380
Like I said, you know, it's been really nice to have an AJ.
1168
01:38:27,380 --> 01:38:29,220
You know, AJ is a super calm person.
1169
01:38:29,220 --> 01:38:30,940
And AJ always says, you know,
1170
01:38:30,940 --> 01:38:32,940
you don't see him ever at anyone else's trailer
1171
01:38:32,940 --> 01:38:35,540
or up at the stands or going to see anything.
1172
01:38:35,540 --> 01:38:38,660
But he's, his focus when he's at the track is on that car.
1173
01:38:38,660 --> 01:38:41,220
And I feel like as a driver, I've tried to replicate that.
1174
01:38:41,220 --> 01:38:45,660
Like I, like I, as a driver, like when I get to the track,
1175
01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:46,980
cars my focus.
1176
01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:49,860
And I just need to figure out how to set the fastest laps down
1177
01:38:49,860 --> 01:38:52,420
and winning heat race and finish up front in the main
1178
01:38:52,420 --> 01:38:53,260
and win the main.
1179
01:38:53,260 --> 01:38:56,060
So that's, that's my goal every night,
1180
01:38:56,060 --> 01:38:58,780
is just to put myself in the best situation possible.
1181
01:38:58,780 --> 01:39:02,340
And whether that be, you know, what, we finished fifth
1182
01:39:02,340 --> 01:39:03,740
and we sold five more t-shirts
1183
01:39:03,740 --> 01:39:05,660
cause I brought something up for her or something.
1184
01:39:05,660 --> 01:39:09,260
And, you know, and that all kind of affects it
1185
01:39:09,260 --> 01:39:11,460
in its own weird way.
1186
01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:13,100
But at the end of the night, you know,
1187
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:14,900
it usually runs pretty dang smooth.
1188
01:39:14,900 --> 01:39:16,740
You know, my sister's usually happy.
1189
01:39:16,740 --> 01:39:17,580
I'm happy.
1190
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:21,380
And usually Zane them are only there for a little bit.
1191
01:39:21,380 --> 01:39:24,220
So it's kind of, it's kind of like, you get,
1192
01:39:24,220 --> 01:39:25,700
you get the distractions out of the way quickly.
1193
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:28,380
I'm glad, I'm glad that we were on the same page there.
1194
01:39:28,380 --> 01:39:29,900
Cause I was like, I know, you know,
1195
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:31,980
I'm hitting that cause he had brought it up or whatever,
1196
01:39:31,980 --> 01:39:34,540
but you get it all the time.
1197
01:39:34,540 --> 01:39:37,740
You know, I, I saw it at the, the, the gym for grace.
1198
01:39:37,740 --> 01:39:38,620
And I was like, man, this kid,
1199
01:39:38,620 --> 01:39:41,420
he's, he's taking a beating for something that's,
1200
01:39:41,420 --> 01:39:42,980
he's got no control over it.
1201
01:39:42,980 --> 01:39:45,940
Every time it's every, it's every race track I go to,
1202
01:39:45,940 --> 01:39:48,740
someone saying something and you just have to,
1203
01:39:48,740 --> 01:39:50,500
honestly, you just have to block it out.
1204
01:39:50,500 --> 01:39:53,860
And it has happened in this group chat we're in and the,
1205
01:39:53,860 --> 01:39:55,740
you know, all these drivers in Ohio,
1206
01:39:55,740 --> 01:39:57,420
I take a beating about every day.
1207
01:39:57,420 --> 01:39:58,420
And so does everyone else.
1208
01:39:58,420 --> 01:40:01,980
So it's fair and you see it, but no,
1209
01:40:01,980 --> 01:40:04,420
you just got to kind of keep your head down.
1210
01:40:04,420 --> 01:40:06,380
You seem like a good sport about it.
1211
01:40:06,380 --> 01:40:07,980
Yeah, I don't, I don't usually like
1212
01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:09,340
threaten anyone's lives or anything.
1213
01:40:09,340 --> 01:40:11,060
I'm usually, I'm usually a pretty good person about it.
1214
01:40:11,060 --> 01:40:13,500
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm glass half full.
1215
01:40:13,500 --> 01:40:15,820
You know, I always try to look at that, not glass half empty.
1216
01:40:15,820 --> 01:40:18,460
You know, I'm kind of a easy going person.
1217
01:40:18,460 --> 01:40:19,300
The bug again.
1218
01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:21,060
Anyways, I'm an easy going person.
1219
01:40:21,060 --> 01:40:23,940
So it makes it a lot.
1220
01:40:23,940 --> 01:40:26,580
If I wasn't easy going person, oh my,
1221
01:40:26,580 --> 01:40:28,220
we'd have a lot of problems.
1222
01:40:28,220 --> 01:40:30,100
And usually I'm a very mellow person,
1223
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:31,860
no matter what's happening in the car or on the track,
1224
01:40:31,860 --> 01:40:34,940
or you know, someone's saying something to me or whatever.
1225
01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:36,940
I mean, I'm trying to just,
1226
01:40:36,940 --> 01:40:39,780
If anything, I get some talking about you guys at least.
1227
01:40:39,780 --> 01:40:41,700
So it's good for business, right?
1228
01:40:41,700 --> 01:40:43,020
Good for the brand.
1229
01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:44,180
Good for the brand.
1230
01:40:44,180 --> 01:40:45,020
I just drive them.
1231
01:40:45,020 --> 01:40:45,860
Yeah.
1232
01:40:45,860 --> 01:40:47,420
Well, I mean, like you kind of look at, too,
1233
01:40:47,420 --> 01:40:50,340
like you look at Larson and, you know, his wife and stuff,
1234
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:53,940
like she's her own spectacle in her wave
1235
01:40:53,940 --> 01:40:54,980
because of the whole shotgun thing.
1236
01:40:54,980 --> 01:40:56,660
Oh yeah, dude, that's insane.
1237
01:40:56,660 --> 01:40:59,340
They embraced it and they made it like its whole thing
1238
01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:00,180
and stuff like that.
1239
01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:01,580
They doubled down at the NASCAR,
1240
01:41:01,580 --> 01:41:03,420
or not the reward ceremony.
1241
01:41:03,420 --> 01:41:05,980
She doubled down on it, tripled down on it or whatever.
1242
01:41:05,980 --> 01:41:08,140
Like it's, you know, she gets a lot of publishing.
1243
01:41:08,140 --> 01:41:11,420
You know Larson reads and hears all of it,
1244
01:41:11,420 --> 01:41:13,420
or you know, most of it and you're like,
1245
01:41:13,420 --> 01:41:16,980
or he just kind of looked at it and said, screw it.
1246
01:41:16,980 --> 01:41:18,700
Like if that's what the people want,
1247
01:41:18,700 --> 01:41:21,620
let's make a brand out of it.
1248
01:41:21,620 --> 01:41:23,700
And you know, they turned it into the t-shirt line
1249
01:41:23,700 --> 01:41:26,540
and sold a ton of them and stuff like that.
1250
01:41:26,540 --> 01:41:30,060
So I mean, you can always do that and, hey,
1251
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:32,460
fund the race team.
1252
01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:36,420
But yeah, I saw that at the gym forward housing.
1253
01:41:36,420 --> 01:41:38,860
Man, he's taking a beating.
1254
01:41:38,860 --> 01:41:41,380
And I know exactly, you know, what that's got to be like
1255
01:41:41,380 --> 01:41:42,380
because I-
1256
01:41:42,380 --> 01:41:43,220
No, you heard it all.
1257
01:41:43,220 --> 01:41:44,060
So you know.
1258
01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:45,140
I heard it all and I'm like,
1259
01:41:45,140 --> 01:41:49,220
I know on the giving end what that's like.
1260
01:41:49,220 --> 01:41:51,460
I don't have a sister, thankfully.
1261
01:41:51,460 --> 01:41:52,700
Yeah, you're lucky one.
1262
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:55,140
I've had some girlfriends in the past
1263
01:41:55,140 --> 01:41:57,820
that were probably a couple leagues above me
1264
01:41:57,820 --> 01:42:00,420
and I took some beans on those and I was like,
1265
01:42:01,460 --> 01:42:03,220
well, at least you're talking type thing.
1266
01:42:03,220 --> 01:42:06,700
So he just take it and you go about it.
1267
01:42:06,700 --> 01:42:10,020
But yeah, I mean, it's good there for you guys.
1268
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:11,780
You guys kind of build the brand up on it
1269
01:42:11,780 --> 01:42:12,820
and stuff like that.
1270
01:42:12,820 --> 01:42:14,980
So it's kind of its benefits, take its beating,
1271
01:42:14,980 --> 01:42:15,900
but got the benefits.
1272
01:42:15,900 --> 01:42:18,900
And yeah, I could say if you're a glass half full
1273
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:21,500
type of person, like you're gonna make the most
1274
01:42:21,500 --> 01:42:22,500
out of any situation.
1275
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:23,820
And at some point you kind of just sit there
1276
01:42:23,820 --> 01:42:24,780
and you gotta laugh about it.
1277
01:42:24,780 --> 01:42:26,580
Cause you're like, it's funny at this point.
1278
01:42:26,580 --> 01:42:29,460
Yeah, I think, you know, I take a lot of beans.
1279
01:42:29,460 --> 01:42:32,300
Hunter usually gets me pretty dang good no matter what.
1280
01:42:32,300 --> 01:42:33,940
Whether it's about me driving.
1281
01:42:33,940 --> 01:42:36,060
Yeah, on Twitter yesterday, I was building,
1282
01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:37,300
I'm building my other car and I was,
1283
01:42:37,300 --> 01:42:39,740
I posted a Twitter, I posted a Twitter video
1284
01:42:39,740 --> 01:42:40,940
and I was just a red locked.
1285
01:42:40,940 --> 01:42:43,180
And apparently I used to, well, I did use too much,
1286
01:42:43,180 --> 01:42:46,340
but whole my Hunter was on it.
1287
01:42:46,340 --> 01:42:49,140
I swear the first 20 minutes I had that thing posted,
1288
01:42:49,140 --> 01:42:51,300
Hunter Jackson commented on it.
1289
01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:53,300
Said, I hope I never have to take,
1290
01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:56,260
I'm gonna bring a, what do you say?
1291
01:42:56,260 --> 01:42:58,380
He gone over to take out your shock studs
1292
01:42:58,380 --> 01:42:59,740
and I go, good thing you don't have to.
1293
01:42:59,740 --> 01:43:01,580
You know, you just gotta kind of shake it off.
1294
01:43:01,580 --> 01:43:04,180
And dude, you know, make it into something fun about it.
1295
01:43:04,180 --> 01:43:06,060
And you know, especially with people,
1296
01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:07,100
you know, who are good sports about it.
1297
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:10,220
And usually the whole race community is pretty,
1298
01:43:10,220 --> 01:43:11,860
you know, mellow about everything.
1299
01:43:11,860 --> 01:43:13,620
You can't really go wrong with, you know,
1300
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:14,580
messing with people.
1301
01:43:14,580 --> 01:43:18,620
So, but now it's pretty insane how, you know,
1302
01:43:18,620 --> 01:43:20,220
the whole racing community works in that way.
1303
01:43:20,220 --> 01:43:22,660
Yeah, I mean, I got a group chat with a bunch of like
1304
01:43:22,660 --> 01:43:25,420
racing friends and there's some things.
1305
01:43:25,420 --> 01:43:26,260
And then I had group chat.
1306
01:43:26,260 --> 01:43:27,180
Oh my God, I gotta add you to another one.
1307
01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:28,020
That get brought up.
1308
01:43:28,020 --> 01:43:29,020
You can add you to another one, buddy.
1309
01:43:29,020 --> 01:43:31,540
Add me to that one and all hell will break loose.
1310
01:43:31,540 --> 01:43:32,500
Oh geez.
1311
01:43:32,500 --> 01:43:34,660
But like I have, I have a group chat with a bunch of like
1312
01:43:34,660 --> 01:43:35,500
iracing friends.
1313
01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:36,980
I think I've talked about it before on one of the shows,
1314
01:43:36,980 --> 01:43:39,260
but like, you know, there's some things in that chat,
1315
01:43:39,260 --> 01:43:43,100
you know, people that I've known or whatever.
1316
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:46,420
And it's like, they get brought up and occasionally, you know,
1317
01:43:46,420 --> 01:43:47,820
someone will be like, you know,
1318
01:43:50,540 --> 01:43:53,900
tag me in a comment and then they're like, look at here.
1319
01:43:53,900 --> 01:43:56,980
And I'm like, you know, I had gone like four weeks
1320
01:43:56,980 --> 01:43:58,300
and not thought about it.
1321
01:43:58,300 --> 01:43:59,620
How about we go another four weeks?
1322
01:43:59,620 --> 01:44:00,460
Thanks for reminding me.
1323
01:44:00,460 --> 01:44:03,900
Like, so we're coming up here
1324
01:44:03,900 --> 01:44:05,260
towards the end of the episode here.
1325
01:44:05,260 --> 01:44:07,740
I think we're, it's about 10 p.m.
1326
01:44:07,740 --> 01:44:10,860
We've been recording here for about two hours or so.
1327
01:44:10,860 --> 01:44:13,620
So I think we have time flies
1328
01:44:13,620 --> 01:44:15,420
when you're just having casual conversations.
1329
01:44:15,420 --> 01:44:18,460
I think that's something that this episode has had
1330
01:44:18,460 --> 01:44:19,740
that I don't think any of the other ones have had
1331
01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:21,300
is kind of just been a conversation.
1332
01:44:21,300 --> 01:44:22,780
I know before we talked about it,
1333
01:44:22,780 --> 01:44:25,260
I kind of gave you, you know, a couple, you know, pointers.
1334
01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:29,220
You know, it's like, hey, you know, if you're not familiar,
1335
01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:31,620
if you've never done a podcast or ever recorded a podcast
1336
01:44:31,620 --> 01:44:34,020
and you know, like this is my first time ever doing it,
1337
01:44:34,020 --> 01:44:38,620
it's a very awkward or different setting
1338
01:44:38,620 --> 01:44:41,460
because you want to have a conversation,
1339
01:44:41,460 --> 01:44:42,540
like a standard conversation,
1340
01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:44,420
but you know everything you're saying is being recorded
1341
01:44:44,420 --> 01:44:48,260
and then like, I only have one camera set up
1342
01:44:48,260 --> 01:44:51,020
and you know, we don't post the full video or anything yet.
1343
01:44:51,020 --> 01:44:52,580
One day we will.
1344
01:44:52,580 --> 01:44:53,900
But like, you know, I look at some other, you know,
1345
01:44:53,900 --> 01:44:55,700
kind of your bigger, more established podcast.
1346
01:44:55,700 --> 01:44:57,340
I love like five cameras set up, you know,
1347
01:44:57,340 --> 01:44:58,180
for different views.
1348
01:44:58,180 --> 01:44:59,660
Oh yeah, dude, there's like one in that corner.
1349
01:44:59,660 --> 01:45:00,980
That's crazy. Yeah, like Joe Rogan's,
1350
01:45:00,980 --> 01:45:02,380
I think got like four or whatever.
1351
01:45:02,380 --> 01:45:06,500
But you know, it's a very different setting.
1352
01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:08,500
It's not like a bar conversation
1353
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:12,620
where you aren't going to remember any of it 30 minutes later.
1354
01:45:12,620 --> 01:45:13,940
Like everything's being recorded.
1355
01:45:13,940 --> 01:45:15,540
So you kind of, you talk up a difference.
1356
01:45:15,540 --> 01:45:17,340
So before we started, I kind of was talking to Bobby
1357
01:45:17,340 --> 01:45:20,300
and I was like, hey, you know, just be yourself,
1358
01:45:20,300 --> 01:45:24,180
you know, be, be, you know, have conversation.
1359
01:45:24,180 --> 01:45:27,540
Don't try to like be a robot or structure everything too much.
1360
01:45:27,540 --> 01:45:29,380
And I think you did a really good job in this episode
1361
01:45:29,380 --> 01:45:32,060
of just kind of having a conversation back and forth.
1362
01:45:32,060 --> 01:45:33,820
And you know, it's, you know,
1363
01:45:33,820 --> 01:45:35,700
we talked about some really random stories
1364
01:45:35,700 --> 01:45:36,940
that had nothing to do with racing,
1365
01:45:36,940 --> 01:45:38,660
but there's probably some humor.
1366
01:45:38,660 --> 01:45:40,100
Some of them, you know, think they're funny
1367
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:43,020
or at least I know I will guarantee get a message
1368
01:45:43,020 --> 01:45:44,860
and be like, I can't believe you told everybody that.
1369
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:47,100
Like, hey man, like we're living,
1370
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:49,300
but like, you know, just conversations like that
1371
01:45:49,300 --> 01:45:50,220
lead into things.
1372
01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:52,060
And you know, I did, I told you like, you're,
1373
01:45:52,060 --> 01:45:54,420
we'll try to, you know, push the conversation one way
1374
01:45:54,420 --> 01:45:55,340
to the stand topic.
1375
01:45:55,340 --> 01:45:56,740
And we go off a little bit here and there,
1376
01:45:56,740 --> 01:45:58,460
but I think there's a lot of things, you know,
1377
01:45:58,460 --> 01:46:01,220
just in conversation that people can learn about somebody.
1378
01:46:01,220 --> 01:46:04,100
And you know, when you take it from racing and you say,
1379
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,820
yes, let's not talk about racing.
1380
01:46:05,820 --> 01:46:09,380
Let's talk about basketball, high school sports
1381
01:46:09,380 --> 01:46:10,220
and stuff like that.
1382
01:46:10,220 --> 01:46:11,180
Like, you know, let's talk about that.
1383
01:46:11,180 --> 01:46:13,300
Cause that's not something that a lot of people think about.
1384
01:46:13,300 --> 01:46:15,580
And, you know, and we talked, you know,
1385
01:46:16,540 --> 01:46:19,340
I, you know, the media differences between racing
1386
01:46:19,340 --> 01:46:23,660
and music and how that affects your social life
1387
01:46:23,660 --> 01:46:24,660
and things like that.
1388
01:46:24,660 --> 01:46:26,700
So, you know, it's there's take, we talked about,
1389
01:46:26,700 --> 01:46:29,460
you know, your, your TikTok, your sister's TikTok,
1390
01:46:29,460 --> 01:46:32,100
you guys sat together, you know, a little bit of your background
1391
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:33,020
and micros and all that.
1392
01:46:33,020 --> 01:46:33,940
So we had a lot of different widgets.
1393
01:46:33,940 --> 01:46:35,460
So I really, I appreciate that.
1394
01:46:35,460 --> 01:46:37,540
I think this episode was a lot of, you know, good conversation,
1395
01:46:37,540 --> 01:46:39,860
just casual conversation, kind of, you know,
1396
01:46:39,860 --> 01:46:41,860
putting the blinders on the fact that I got a mic,
1397
01:46:41,860 --> 01:46:44,020
a foot from your face and stuff like that.
1398
01:46:44,020 --> 01:46:47,380
But, we've ended the last couple of episodes,
1399
01:46:47,380 --> 01:46:48,820
I ended it the same way with this one here.
1400
01:46:48,820 --> 01:46:50,420
Like, do you have, I mean, anything you want to say to,
1401
01:46:50,420 --> 01:46:52,260
like everybody out there, you know,
1402
01:46:52,260 --> 01:46:54,660
anybody sponsor, like potential sponsors,
1403
01:46:54,660 --> 01:46:57,140
sponsors you have now, like kind of like a,
1404
01:46:57,140 --> 01:47:00,820
I don't want to say sales pitch, like a last hurrah before we,
1405
01:47:00,820 --> 01:47:03,380
you know, we cut the episode.
1406
01:47:03,380 --> 01:47:07,620
Well, I'm a young kid from our made in Michigan and, you know,
1407
01:47:08,340 --> 01:47:11,220
a lot of people don't think about the young kids of the sport
1408
01:47:11,220 --> 01:47:14,660
and a lot of people, I guess, kind of look at your veterans
1409
01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:16,420
and all those guys and they're like, I want to be on that car.
1410
01:47:17,380 --> 01:47:19,700
When you're, I guess, looking at me, you know,
1411
01:47:19,700 --> 01:47:22,500
you're buying into the future and, you know,
1412
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:24,340
because some of these guys don't last forever,
1413
01:47:24,340 --> 01:47:25,620
they're not all invincible.
1414
01:47:25,620 --> 01:47:29,220
And I think, you know, if people just watch me,
1415
01:47:29,220 --> 01:47:31,460
I'm, I'm, I'm exciting race, I'm very tactful.
1416
01:47:31,460 --> 01:47:33,300
I'm not, I don't, I don't wad up stuff.
1417
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:34,580
I don't, I can't wad up stuff.
1418
01:47:34,580 --> 01:47:35,860
You know, it's my family team.
1419
01:47:35,860 --> 01:47:38,260
This is, it's four people who make this thing go around.
1420
01:47:38,260 --> 01:47:41,780
And, you know, it's, I'm very blessed to be the driver of this car.
1421
01:47:41,780 --> 01:47:44,340
And, you know, very blessed for the situation I'm in
1422
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:47,700
and honestly just so proud of what we've been able to do this year.
1423
01:47:47,700 --> 01:47:50,340
And a lot of people don't know me as the 18 year old
1424
01:47:50,340 --> 01:47:52,420
who just graduated high school in June.
1425
01:47:52,420 --> 01:47:56,420
And the 18 year old who's just getting started in the sport.
1426
01:47:56,420 --> 01:48:00,420
And I, I think, you know, I just got to thank everyone
1427
01:48:00,420 --> 01:48:01,700
who's helped me along the way, you know,
1428
01:48:02,660 --> 01:48:04,260
all my sponsors really loyal to me, you know,
1429
01:48:04,260 --> 01:48:07,380
rounds car quest, crestling an automotive and, you know,
1430
01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:13,300
all throughout KHS suspension, SS stripping, J&J chassis, you know,
1431
01:48:13,300 --> 01:48:14,980
all those people who have hopped on board with us
1432
01:48:14,980 --> 01:48:17,620
and gave a helping hand into us have really,
1433
01:48:17,620 --> 01:48:19,780
I think they've seen the results on the track.
1434
01:48:19,780 --> 01:48:21,780
And I think they're going to see a lot more in this next year.
1435
01:48:21,780 --> 01:48:24,020
And, you know, we got a few more races left.
1436
01:48:24,020 --> 01:48:26,100
We got atomic this weekend, which, well,
1437
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:27,380
by the time I don't hear this,
1438
01:48:27,380 --> 01:48:28,420
there will be a lot of semis here.
1439
01:48:28,420 --> 01:48:29,540
Yeah, I'll be right back.
1440
01:48:29,540 --> 01:48:30,660
My race is over.
1441
01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:34,100
So, um, no, just following on social media
1442
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:35,220
and keep up with my stuff.
1443
01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:37,700
Um, if anyone wants to reach out to me, just, you know,
1444
01:48:37,700 --> 01:48:39,860
everyone wants to talk, you know, just send me a message.
1445
01:48:39,860 --> 01:48:41,780
And, you know, I'm always willing to talk about whatever,
1446
01:48:41,780 --> 01:48:44,100
you know, sponsorships, life, whatever.
1447
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,300
I'm, I'm, I'm open.
1448
01:48:45,300 --> 01:48:46,580
I'm an open book, as you can see.
1449
01:48:46,580 --> 01:48:48,900
I'm just, I'm just a kid trying to make it in this world
1450
01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:51,460
and just really blessed with opportunities.
1451
01:48:51,460 --> 01:48:53,060
I get so thank you guys.
1452
01:48:53,060 --> 01:48:54,340
And thank you.
1453
01:48:54,340 --> 01:48:56,980
Appreciate the great podcasts they get to be on.
1454
01:48:56,980 --> 01:48:58,500
And just really excited for more.
1455
01:48:58,500 --> 01:48:59,620
Absolutely.
1456
01:48:59,620 --> 01:49:01,060
I appreciate you coming on here.
1457
01:49:01,060 --> 01:49:02,340
And like I said, staying late.
1458
01:49:02,340 --> 01:49:04,420
So I got a long drive back to Michigan or whatever.
1459
01:49:04,420 --> 01:49:05,140
Oh yeah.
1460
01:49:05,140 --> 01:49:06,100
2am.
1461
01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:06,740
Yeah.
1462
01:49:06,740 --> 01:49:07,060
2am.
1463
01:49:07,060 --> 01:49:07,620
I'm like that.
1464
01:49:07,620 --> 01:49:08,180
Yeah.
1465
01:49:08,180 --> 01:49:09,060
6 hours sleep.
1466
01:49:09,060 --> 01:49:09,620
Yeah.
1467
01:49:09,620 --> 01:49:12,420
Appreciate you guys, uh, you know, listening as always.
1468
01:49:12,420 --> 01:49:15,140
And, um, we got some really cool things coming up here.
1469
01:49:15,780 --> 01:49:19,060
Um, yeah, I think this episode is going to air
1470
01:49:19,060 --> 01:49:20,660
towards the end of October.
1471
01:49:20,660 --> 01:49:22,500
Bobby and I had talked before the episode about some things
1472
01:49:22,500 --> 01:49:22,980
that we're going to do.
1473
01:49:22,980 --> 01:49:25,540
So I think you guys will really enjoy, um, you know,
1474
01:49:25,540 --> 01:49:27,220
some of the stuff coming up this off season.
1475
01:49:27,220 --> 01:49:28,660
We're going to mix it up a little bit.
1476
01:49:28,660 --> 01:49:31,700
You know, I kind of highlighted or foreshadowed in the show,
1477
01:49:31,700 --> 01:49:33,300
a little bit of, you know, different things that we're going
1478
01:49:33,300 --> 01:49:34,100
to come up as well.
1479
01:49:34,900 --> 01:49:39,300
You know, on the, the ZSM side as well, to, you know,
1480
01:49:39,860 --> 01:49:42,660
one build on the brand, but then to kind of offer a little bit
1481
01:49:42,660 --> 01:49:45,380
more out there to the, the racing world and kind of see,
1482
01:49:45,380 --> 01:49:47,940
you know, what ways we can pay back going forward.
1483
01:49:47,940 --> 01:49:49,780
So, uh, you know, as I said, you know, just guys,
1484
01:49:49,780 --> 01:49:50,900
appreciate you guys listening in.
1485
01:49:50,900 --> 01:49:54,420
And, um, I think you guys are going to enjoy, uh, you know,
1486
01:49:54,420 --> 01:49:55,780
obviously hopefully you enjoyed this episode.
1487
01:49:55,780 --> 01:49:57,780
We're going to enjoy a lot of the episodes that we got coming up.
1488
01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:01,060
I think we're going to have a good, good, uh, cast lined up and, uh,
1489
01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:05,060
we'll, uh, ideally, like I said, by the time this airs season will be over.
1490
01:50:05,060 --> 01:50:08,740
So we'll, uh, make some more outlaw shows and get after it.
1491
01:50:08,740 --> 01:50:09,380
We'll see you next year.
1492
01:50:09,380 --> 01:50:11,620
I think the only races after this show are going to be world finals.
1493
01:50:11,620 --> 01:50:16,820
So, well, I'm going to root 66 without laws in Chicago next weekend.
1494
01:50:16,820 --> 01:50:20,260
Yeah. Well, how many episodes are season will be over?
1495
01:50:20,260 --> 01:50:21,060
I know we're a finals.
1496
01:50:21,060 --> 01:50:22,260
We'll be the shop.
1497
01:50:22,260 --> 01:50:22,580
Turn on.
1498
01:50:22,580 --> 01:50:28,020
Basically this is kind of like, uh, you know, we'll see you guys next season,
1499
01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:30,260
even though we're going to release episodes all winter.
1500
01:50:30,260 --> 01:50:32,500
So I appreciate you guys listening again one more time and, uh,
1501
01:50:32,500 --> 01:50:46,980
we'll, uh, we'll see you next episode.