In this special "exit interview," John and Jason sit down with Marc Long, the President Emeritus of Mount Marty University, just days before his retirement. Reflecting on his ten-year tenure, Marc shares his unlikely journey from a traffic-enforcement police officer to a higher education leader, revealing how he navigated the public demands of university presidency. The conversation delves into the Benedictine roots of his leadership style — specifically how the Rule of St. Benedict informs tough decisions like supervision, hiring and firing — and his "people-first" philosophy. They also discuss his spiritual transition from the Disciples of Christ to Catholicism, his post-retirement reading list (including a 46-hour Mark Twain biography), and John’s sudden, impulsive desire to buy a floor loom and a kiln.
