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In the past decade, wealthier developed countries, particularly those in the EU, have tried a novel tactic to stem the flow of unauthorized migrants from the Global South: paying governments to prevent such individuals from leaving their own country.
Countries tend to promote these migration management deals — worth billions of U.S. dollars — as a way to address the root causes of irregular migration, including the lack of public resources and economic opportunity as well as risks from climate disasters and political instability.
Kelsey Norman, fellow for the Middle East and director of the Women’s Rights, Human Rights, and Refugees Program, and Nicholas R. Micinski, assistant professor at American University, recently published their book, “Aiding Autocrats: Migration Management, Governance, and Repression in Africa,” which examines how this funding affects state power and governance in countries on the receiving end of the aid.
Featured:
- Kelsey Norman, Ph.D.: https://www.bakerinstitute.org/expert/kelsey-norman
- Nicholas R. Micinski, Ph.D.: https://www.american.edu/sis/faculty/nmicinski.cfm
Mentioned in this episode:
- Kelsey Norman and Nicholas R. Micinski, “Aiding Autocrats: Migration Management, Governance, and Repression in Africa” (Cambridge University Press, 2026).
This conversation was recorded on Sept. 30, 2026.
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The movement of migrants from the developing world to wealthier countries is
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one of the defining international stories of our time.
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These people are moved by war, environmental disasters, dysfunctional states,
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higher wages, but all of them are met with skepticism, if not outright hostility, when they arrive.
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In the past decade, the European Union has used foreign aid to encourage governments
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in several Mediterranean, littoral, and African nations to stop migration at its source.
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These deals, worth hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars or euros,
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are often made with little public input and may end up harming the people that
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they're supposed to be helping. Welcome to Baker Briefing, where we make the news make sense.
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I'm David Satterfield, director of Rice University's Baker Institute for Public
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Policy in Houston, Texas.
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Kelsey Norman is a fellow here at the Baker Institute studying global migration.
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She joins me today with Nick Misinski, an assistant professor at American University,
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to discuss a recent book they co-authored on how these migration management deals
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come about and how they impact the governments and people on the receiving end
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of the aid. Thank you for tuning in.
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Kelsey, Nick, thank you for joining me today, and congratulations on your new book.
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Now, Nick, the book is provocatively titled Aiding Autocrats,
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Migration Management, Governments, and Repression in Africa.
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Can you tell us in a few sentences, what's your core argument?
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What's at the heart of the book?
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Well, migration management aid is a type of foreign aid that is used to control migration.
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Its hope is that by paying other countries, they can get at the root causes
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of migration to prevent emigrants to Europe or other rich countries.
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But it doesn't actually do that. A lot of economic studies show that that money
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doesn't actually lead to less emigration. And our book looks at the other question,
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which is then what does it actually do?
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And we trace the different ways that it actually leads to or supports authoritarianism or repression.
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And we have several different arguments and pathways in which that happens.
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Kelsey, the European Union and other international institutions have long argued
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that development funding to address the root causes of migration helps forestall
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people leaving in the first place.
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When you examine these deals, how is this aid utilized? And let me get to a
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more probing fundamental question.
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Is this really, at least in the last decade, anything other than a transparently
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labeled development assistance program?
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Is it really bribery to stop migration?
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Great question, Ambassador. So we look at a variety of different programs that
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fall under this large category of migration management aid, and you're right to.
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Assess that a lot of the programs do look like traditional development assistance programs.
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In fact, some of the existing development programs were basically repurposed
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under this pot of funding. So there really is a genuine, discernible development goal there.
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And programmatic activity, at least to some of this funding.
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That is the alleged ideology or narrative behind this type of funding,
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that if we can improve countries' governance systems, if we can develop them
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economically, people won't even want to migrate.
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They won't choose to leave their home countries or they won't choose to leave
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the countries in which they're refugees or asylum seekers.
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So as Nick said earlier, we know from other development studies,
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from economic studies, this doesn't actually stop emigration.
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So what we're asking is a different but related question, which is,
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well, then what does this do? What is the impact of this type of aid?
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And a lot of the aid doesn't just focus on that development work.
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It focuses on building out security capacity of countries that receive this type of aid.
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And that's where we see this kind of potential slippage in terms of impacting
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governance negatively through increasing authoritarianism or increasing repression.
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Nick, I'm going to get to you in just a moment, but I'll offer my own comments,
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having been chief of mission and heavily involved in many of the issues,
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both on the sending and receiving ends of migration.
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We're going to talk, Nick, about the, I think, pivotal inflection point,
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if you will, of 2016, Germany, Angela Merkel, and the acceptance of over a million
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migrants slash refugees.
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And the transformative impact that had, not just on the lives of those who sought
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refuge in Germany, but on the reaction to this extraordinary migration on European politics.
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I also am going to seek your commentary, and I'll be blunter than you, Kelsey.
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The EU pays Turkey, ostensibly, for migration management.
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What it's really doing is paying Turkey to halt trans-Aegean,
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trans-Balkan migration, and everyone on both sides understands the terms of the deal.
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The EU pays Egypt.
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In the form of development assistance. Yes.
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What that really is, is a response to the Egyptian government's clear message to the EU.
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You've got a nice continent there.
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What a shame if three million Africans were to appear tomorrow.
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It is a very transparent, on both sides, arrangement.
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You, sending potential government, stop migration from your shores across the Med.
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We, receiving continent, will pay you. And, I mean, both Erdogan and Gaddafi
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said these things explicitly as threats. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. And then we have a further case when it is not the EU paying to
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a government to stop this kind of migration.
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It is the Italian direct dealing with criminal organizations engaged in literal, criminal,
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and very abusive trafficking of migrants to the Mediterranean Southern Littoral,
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paying them to stop the process.
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We see a variety of deals here, right? These are really the headline-catching
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deals where it is a direct deal with a dictator to violate human rights, right?
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Our book tries to trace this down to sort of the everyday migration management
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that's happening that still has nefarious effects.
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The types of support that comes from this development aid, despite helping migrants,
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much of it is food aid, for example, there are ways in which we trace either
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aid gets diverted, it's directly funding repression via sort of financing or capacity building,
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or we say it also ties these actors to the state by centralizing control.
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And for example, in Ethiopia or Kenya, we can see examples of the government
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sort of channeling or redirecting the funding towards their allies or away from
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their enemies. So an example of this is during the Tigray War in Ethiopia.
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The Ethiopian government cut off refugee aid to the north, redistributed industrial
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parks to its allies in other areas, and prevented this. It really became a politicization
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of the migration management aid.
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Kelsey, you're looking in this book at four countries as case studies,
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Ethiopia, Kenya, as you just mentioned, also Egypt and Sudan.
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How did you choose these countries? What do they represent in terms of migration
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challenges? Great question. We wanted to cover a variety of countries in terms
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of their governance systems.
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So when we look at the range of countries we've included, we have a more democratic
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government in Kenya and less democratic governments in both Ethiopia and Egypt, as well as Sudan.
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And so when Sudan started receiving Mundi under this European Trust Fund for
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Africa that came about in 2015, it was a staunchly authoritarian government under Omar Bashir.
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Since then, Sudan has gone through various transformations, a popular revolution,
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a military coup, and now a civil war.
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And throughout that time, migration management aid was flowing.
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We're not arguing that migration management aid is going to turn a country from
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a democratic government into an authoritarian government.
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But we are interested in the more nuanced ways that this type of funding can
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help further capacitate authoritarian practices and actors within a state system,
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as well as the ways that it can influence repression, not just for migrants
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and refugees, but for citizens in these countries.
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So, Nick, you've talked about Kenya, the only democracy here.
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How were institutions rule of law?
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In Kenya, affected positively, negatively, or not at all, by this kind of aid?
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Absolutely. So Kenya is our best case scenario, right? We hope that by providing
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migration management aid or supporting the country in providing lots of funding
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to support refugees, that it could lead to more democratic spaces.
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And we do see some of that, right? There is the 2021 Refugee Act,
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which was heavily influenced by the aid to allow refugees to leave camps and get work permits.
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Now, the government previously had threatened again and again to close down
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camps and throw out the refugees. We argue that was part of a negotiation strategy to get more aid.
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The act, though, is quite a progressive act. Unfortunately, it hasn't been implemented,
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in part because the government has argued that there's not enough money to pay
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for the schooling, health care, or others for the refugees.
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And in the last several years, we've seen that since Trump came to power,
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but even before that, humanitarian funding, specifically for refugees has been
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going down, quite drastic numbers.
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Kelsey, in all of the countries you've looked at, and those beyond the case
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studies that you've reviewed, qui bono, who benefits from these deals?
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Well, as you already highlighted in your remarks, Ambassador,
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the authoritarian leaders are the ones who are really benefiting from these
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deals. And we see this kind of behavior being replicated again and again.
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So the landmark or the hallmark deal in the immediate aftermath of Europe's
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refugee crisis in 2015 led to the EU-Turkey deal.
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So Erdogan's government, you know, benefited from making it clear to the European
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Union that they had the capacity to stop that onward migration,
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and they had the capacity, as they demonstrated in 2020, to have it,
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to turn it back on, exactly.
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And as you alluded to in Egypt's case, Egypt saw what Turkey had done,
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came to the table with the EU, and said, we can also stop and start this migration.
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And they've made it clear to the Europeans that they are willing to do that.
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Should that aid stop? And they've been quite successful at getting aid under
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the EU Trust Fund for Africa, as we examine in the book, but also in much larger
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quantities since that time.
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And they have the threat of hosting large numbers now of Sudanese refugees,
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but also the European Union really views the entire population of Egypt as this
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potential migration threat. So 100 million people as possible migrants. Indeed, it does.
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And that more recent concern, the 3 million approximate number of new Sudanese
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refugees who moved across the border as a result of the outbreak of civil war.
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Before all of that, Egyptians were viewed as a potential migrant community because
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of the disastrous structural dysfunctions and deficiencies in the Egyptian economy.
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So yes, absolutely. So I'm going to pose to both of you the true meta question here.
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You have in Africa and non-African countries who have access to Africa,
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Central Asia, Southwest Asia,
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a collection of historically legacy dysfunctional economic, political,
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social systems rife with massive corruption or beyond corruption.
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Simple kleptocratic governments.
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Internal strife, sometimes the level of Sudan's brutal civil war,
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sometimes less so, but conflict.
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These are countries unable historically to provide for their own populations.
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They are countries, many but not all, where the physical act of surviving in
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the midst of conflict becomes extraordinarily difficult.
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And there are basic issues of security, safety, beyond economic welfare,
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driving migration to a different, better place.
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The EU, maybe all developed countries, including the United States.
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Are facing significant political, social, and economic challenges themselves
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as a post-World War II era has come, is coming to a close.
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And questions about the resiliency, hope for a better future for their citizens,
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is a prominent feature. It's not just the United States.
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It's replicated across the developed world.
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Europe poses a number of examples of all of this, UK, France,
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Italy, Germany, recent and ongoing political development.
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What's wrong with closing borders through any means necessary to,
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If the motivation beyond racial, ethnic, sectarian justification is our political
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system is fragile to avoid further move to an ethno-nationalist right,
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this is the step we have to take.
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That's a real tough question. So I'll turn to you first. It's a tough question.
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Absolutely. I'll turn to you, Nick. Okay. Well, my first response would be moving
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to the middle or to the right doesn't actually address the real problem, right?
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When Europe has drifted to the right, in fact, the European Union,
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the European Commission, has adopted many of the far-right policies as their policies.
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Maloney, Prime Minister of Italy, proposed deporting people to Albania as a
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safe country, host place for deportees.
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The EU freaked out, said this is going to violate all human rights possibilities.
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Guess what? It's now European Commission's main policy. It was embedded in the
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EU Pact for Migration and Asylum.
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So they've moved to the right already, and the results? They're still losing
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elections. So it's not winning the elections the way they thought they would.
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The second thing I would say is that when we think about the good parts about
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the European Union, or America, democracy, rule of law, human rights,
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if it takes violating those things to prevent migrants, we don't even have democracy
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in our own countries anymore.
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Good response. We see in the EU, and we document it in the book,
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In order for them to pay the 5 billion euros to these African countries,
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they actually had to declare 17 African countries in crisis with no evidence,
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no other things, and then violated their own commissioning rule of law,
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which is that they have to have open bidding process, right?
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So they undermined their own democratic principles to push this money out the door.
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Maybe addressing sort of the first part of your question in regards to the status
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of countries that produce outward migration.
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So part of what we do in this book is look at the long colonial and post-colonial
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histories of each of these four countries that we examine in order to understand
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how migration management aid, even though it's growing and is becoming more
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prominent now, really reflects a long legacy
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of trying to control movement of people in order to.
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Establish power, in order to contain people effectively in peripheral areas.
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And I think Sudan, as one of the sort of worst case scenarios we examine in
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the book, illustrates how this type of approach that Europe and the U.S.
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Have adopted can go awry.
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So Europe chose to fund border control and capacitate border control
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in Sudan prior to the outbreak of the current civil war when the rapid support
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forces had been chosen as the primary border entity patrolling Sudan's northern
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border with Egypt and Libya.
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As a result, you know, not entirely because of that, but it did factor into.
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Seeing this entity, this that grew out of the Janjaweed militias of the early
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2000s, as a legitimate state actor.
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And that helped to provide them with legitimacy and helped give them power within the state.
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And now they are one of the two main entities engaged in this more than three-year
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civil war in the country.
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It was a factor. There were many other very indigenous and regional factors.
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Yes. And we are not saying that that is the only factor. But you can see how
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Europe's support of this entity helped to give them legitimacy and power within
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the state, in addition to funding from external sources like the UAE and Russia.
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However, we see now the long-term consequences are not less displacement and
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more state stability in Sudan. Rather, it's the opposite. Rather,
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it's the largest displacement crisis in the world and thus a further threat
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to Europe's major fears about irregular migration.
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Let's turn to the very specific subset of this problem, which is criminal trafficking.
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The organizations which move individuals not just from Africa across Africa to the Mediterranean.
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But from Southwest Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, into Africa to have access
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to the Mediterranean. This is not populations voting with their feet.
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These are criminally motivated for fee traffickers, which was a major source.
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And I'll ask you now a sort of substantive, quantitative question.
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If you look overall at trans-Mediterranean migration patterns, how much of it today.
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Is criminal organization managed in terms of bringing them to the shores.
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Putting them on craft of some kind, and launching them?
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Smugglers step in when there's a need, right, when there's a demand.
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And right now there is a huge demand for irregular migration because there aren't
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regular pathways for people to arrive in Europe, whether it's through economic
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visas or resettlement opportunities for refugees and asylum seekers.
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So smuggling has emerged as an industry by which people are able to travel.
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Sometimes smuggling can turn to trafficking, and obviously that is highly problematic.
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But I would say that that hasn't precluded European funding of those very institutions,
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especially in Libya, as you mentioned earlier.
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We have two competing governments. Europe funds both of them.
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And they're very much embedded with these same networks that facilitate irregular
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migration of people towards Europe.
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And there's a really interesting expose that came out in the Egyptian case as
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well recently of how because of Europe's rewarding of
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combating smuggling, there's a new micro-industry that's emerged whereby the
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Egyptian state is accusing people of smuggling, repurposing or recycling their
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cases all throughout the Egyptian security system.
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And then reporting back to Europe saying, look how many people we've arrested
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for smuggling, even though those people are not smugglers. The same people arrested
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again and again. It's inflating the numbers so that Europe pays it more money.
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So it's also sort of creating these industries.
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I have to cite history, though. If those professional criminal smugglers,
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people who are moving people, cannot deliver the goods to their destination.
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To Europe, If the disincentives, physical.
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Financial, whatever the consequences
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for governance, status of those trafficked or migrant persons...
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In the place they've wound up. Irrespective of that, over time,
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doesn't migration get dissuaded, at least the criminally moved migrants?
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When the word gets back, you're not going to make it to European shores.
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So it's more complicated than this. The studies that we have now show that the
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changes in policy and the programs that we're studying don't actually change migration intentions.
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People still want to move, in part because they're fleeing conflict,
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their asylum seekers, others because they're moving because of economic reasons.
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But those intentions are not changing because of these policy programs.
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What does change is their ability to do that. And the U.S. Southern border is the case right now.
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The Trump administration in the last year has successfully closed the border.
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I mean, we can see it across the border in all of these policies.
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It's very hard for anyone to get across, which means that people have been pushed
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back and are looking at other ways to move around, not because they're not moving
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and they've just decided they're going to stay in a place, they're moving in other places.
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So there's a new political economy of Latin America where people can move and
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are looking for safety. I would add the actions undertaken by this administration,
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indeed, by the final year of the Biden administration.
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Matched almost precisely the motivation of the government of Mexico
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for its own internal reasons to crack down on the flow across Mexico's southern
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border, the Darien Gap, and ungoverned space on that border to highly govern space to stop the flows.
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So it was a combined effort.
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And yeah, within Latin America, the pattern of migration across our U.S.
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Southern border has shifted some years ago, from a majority of Mexican undocumented
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crossings to third national undocumented crossings, including from Africa,
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from Central Asia, from Southwest Asia.
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Who used visa-free entry to countries all across the Southern Hemisphere to get into Mexico.
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That is all being addressed right now. It'll be fascinating to see as we look
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over the next several years, how enduring are the steps a variety of governments,
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but notably the Mexican government and U.S.
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Taken, does it endure as a significant deterrence?
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One of the things I think we have to point out, though, is that these policies
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are based on a fiction that the places that we're pushing people back to are
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safe, right? So one of the ways the EU got the EU-Turkey deal through was that
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they designated Turkey a safe country, right?
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Now, Turkey is not a safe country for many of the people who were being pushed back to it.
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Similarly, the Trump administration has said many of the countries it's made
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deals with, think of El Salvador, think of Equatorial Guinea,
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these countries now have migration deals with the U.S.
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But have terrible human rights records. And that's a fiction.
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We have to ignore or overlook the rule of law and the real designations by the
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State Department that they're violating human rights in order to deport or push
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back people to these countries.
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These issues that you write about in your book are going to be absolutely salient priority issues,
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for virtually every country in the developed world, from Scandinavia to Japan
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to countries in this hemisphere, including the United States and Mexico.
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There are no easy answers here.
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This is a fraught moment for both the developing world and the developed world,
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perhaps the most such since the end of the Second World War.
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All of these questions are going to be scrutinized.
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How do you manage a phenomenon which is not going to go away at any point in
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the predictable future?
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And I'll add a dark note, because the engines driving conflict,
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safety, economic disaster are endemic and will not be resolved in our lifetimes.
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So these engines are going to keep churning away. It is how we respond to this
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enduring phenomenon as democracies, as states that view themselves as historically refuges.
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Although the history is a mixed bag for all of us, for Europe,
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for the United States, for countries in Asia, how do we cope?
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These are challenges that are political, they're social, they're moral,
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and they're cultural for all of us across the world.
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But thank you very much for the book and for the discussion.
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