INTERVIEW CLASSIC - Vince McMahon Interviewer Brian Fritz with insight into interviewing Vince, WrestleMania 33 line-up speculation, more

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On today's Way Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast for Saturday, March fourteenth,
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twenty twenty six, we're jumping back to two interviews from
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ten years ago this week. First up my interview with
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Wrestling Journalist podcast an interviewer Brian Fritz with insight into
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his recent interview with Vince McMahon, who was out a
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press conference for WrestleMania coming to Orlando, and he talked
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about his history with wrestling, reporting, his approach to interviewing
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Vincent Mann, and his in person impressions of Vincent Mann
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at age seventy. We also talked about Roman Rains's push,
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the video game Pro Wrestling connection, speculation on the Wrestmania
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thirty three lineup and where various returning injured dames might land,
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who among the new crop could be featured, what was
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likely for John Cena, Undertaker and Roman reigns, and a
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mix of questions via email and phone calls were included. Then,
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in a bonus segment from the previous day Pat McNeil's
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interview with Disco Inferno Glenn GELBERTI a full length interview
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discussing the latest pro wrestling happenings, his philosophy on what
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was wrong with current day wrestling, working with upcoming stars,
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and more topics with live callers and emails. Again. These
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originally dropped on March tenth and March ninth, twenty sixteen,
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and it is today's White Keller Podcast ten years Ago
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Interview classic episode. Here we Go, Oh, Welcome to the
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and publisher of the Pro Wrestling Tourch weekly newsletter founded
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announce that today's guest is none other than a veteran
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pro wrestling journalist who had the opportunity to be at
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the WrestleMania thirty three press conference in Orlando and also
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a chance to chat with Vincecmentnann for a few minutes
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in an interview that has gotten a lot of play
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around the internet over the past couple of days. So
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we're glad to have Brian with us. If you tuned
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in expecting Matt McCarthy, former WWE Creative Team member and
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stand up comedian and big pro wrestling gorilla fan and
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a favorite guest on this live cast, he'll be on
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next week. He actually had a callback for his day
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job and had to postpone his appearance until next week.
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So Matt McCarthy next week, and we hope that you'll
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join us then. But let's go ahead and welcome veteran
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wrestling reporter Brian Fritz into the conversation. Brian, welcome to
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the program.
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Thanks for having me.
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Wade appreciate it.
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It's great Dave y'all on a big, big week for
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you based out of the Orlando area, being present for
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the big announcement of Wrestlmingia thirty three, and I won't
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say lost in the headlines, but a co headline is
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the Hall of Fame announcement that there'll be a physical
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Hall of Fame. And of course then you interviewed Vincent
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Mann to kind of steal the headlines because Vince doesn't
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do a lot of Q and A. What was the
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highlight of your week so far, Brian.
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Well getting it up to sit down with Vince mcbahan
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That was Bence asked. That's an opportunity that he does
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not afford a lot of people. He obviously does not
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do a lot of sit down interviews, and I was
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lucky enough to be able to chat with him. And
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the funny thing was is that, you know, I wasn't
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even sure if it was going to happen until the
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day it did happen. I mean, I went into that
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knowing that there was a chance I was going to
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be speaking with Vince. Once I arrived at the press event,
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they said, yes you would. Afterwards for about he goes,
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we'll give you about ten minutes and we end up
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talking for about twenty minutes, so you know, we just
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had a nice conversation and won't really well.
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And by the way, when it comes to the physical
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Hall of Fame, I don't doubt that.
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That might not happen. And if it's going to happen,
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I would think it's going to be in Orlando. But
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I have not heard anything more about that, and that's
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something that WWE and people there have always debunked to me.
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So I definitely think sooner or later that is going
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to happen. It's just a matter of if not when.
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But I still think there's a lot of questions going
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on with that, and obviously WWE is not ready to
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announce that yet, so I there's gotta be some kind
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of a hold up, or maybe there's some kind of
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inaccuracies or something's going on. But because otherwise if that
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was happening, that was definitely one hundred percent happening, I
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think they would have announced that in conjunction with this,
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so they did not.
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That's a good point because I made it sound like
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that was part of the announcement. Attractions Management said that
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WWE is planning to take over NBA City in Universal
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at Universal Studios in Orlando to permanently house the Hall
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of Fame. But it is it is not something WWE
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has officially confirmed, and I'm glad you cleared that up.
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But for what it is worth that there is a
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report out there that sources within Universal Studios have told
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attractions management that NBA City will be replaced by the
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WWE Hall of Fame, and it's just a matter of
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when they announce it.
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Yeah, you know, and I think that would be a
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great location for them because that would get a lot
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of traffic that goes around there for people that are
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going out to the theme park or even that are
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just going out to that area because that is a
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Universal City walks. So there is a lot of other
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restaurants there. NBA City is right next to hard Rock.
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Margaritaville is right there as well. On the other side
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there used to be low As Nascar Grill, but it's
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now an NBC Sports themed restaurant. So I mean there's
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a lot of other things that are there, So I mean,
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they generate a lot of traffic out there.
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But I mean this is.
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Something I've approached WWE going back two years now talking
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about that location and being out there, and they've always
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said there's nothing to it, there's nothing to it. Now
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that doesn't mean there isn't something to it. It just
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means if there is something to it, that there's nothing
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to it concrete right now or yeah exactly, yeah, right,
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because because who knows, maybe there's maybe there's a hold
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up the negotiations of getting the building. Maybe maybe they've
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feel like they're going to be able to do it,
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but you know, the timeline is wrong, or there may
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there's something else that's going on. Maybe they're not doing
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it at all, and it's just you know, wishful thinking
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by a lot of the people. And it's been talked about,
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but they have said, you know what, come the end
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of the day, we just don't want to do it.
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We're worried about you know, do we really want to
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do another restaurant because we did one before and it
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didn't work out, Or do we really want to do
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a physical hall of fame? And you know, after the
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initial you know, three to six months isn't something that's
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going to be a business that can be sustained going forward.
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So I don't know what's going on exactly.
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If you're interested in joining our discussion today. Brian Fritz
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is my guest. I interview Thursday here Thursday March tenth,
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twenty sixteen. Give us a call six four six seven
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to one, nine to two eight. Brian. You have talked
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to and interviewed a lot of wrestlers from WWE and
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elsewhere over the years, and I'm sure you've got some
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stories to tell. But you also follow the industry closely,
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and so we can just talk about current events and wrestling.
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We can not only talk about Wrestumenia thirty two in
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the lineup taking shape, but with the announcement of Rsumenia
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Comme to Orlando next year, we can even speculate a
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little bit about what some options are for thirty three,
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although I think it's a short list of likely possible
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candidates and then a long list of wild card options.
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But we can get into that too. Give us a
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call here. It's six four six seven one nine a
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two eight Brian. After we come back from a break
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from hear a word from our sponsors, I want to
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get a little background on you so listeners know more
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on We suspended you from the live cast because you
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And originally it was thirty years, but I cut it
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down to three when there was media pressure. So we'll
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we'll catch up on you and your background too, because
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it's an interesting story. Uh, you're involvement in wrestling and
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in all the different places and companies and major sports
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brands you've worked for, So we'll get into some stories
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is my guest. We will be taking phone calls talking
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WrestleMania and wrestling reporting and wrestling interviews and that Vince
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McMahon interview. So give us a call. Six four, six,
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seven one nine A two eight if you're listening to
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us live here at five thirteen eastern on Thursday. Brian,
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let's first mention, So I don't forget to do this.
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How can people find the Vincent Mann interview? And is
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it a text interview or an audio interview only?
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It is a text interview only. You can go to
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the Orlandos Sentinel website and just go to the sports
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section and they'll have a leak there. I have it
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also the direct link to it on my Twitter account,
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which is at Brian Fritz. Now that tinses my top tweet,
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so you can click on a day, or if you
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really want, you can just Google and go Orlando Central
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Vincent Man and you will find it right there. All
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what is it about?
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Thirty six hundred words? Once it get typed out, it's
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all there.
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I've done plenty of interview transcribing over the ears, Brian,
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I know what that is, like, we all do.
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That is the most tedious, horrible thing on God's green earth.
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But it has to be done.
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Now when you do it, this is total shop talk.
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But do you have a software program and a headset
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and a pedal or do you just do you just
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kind of push stop and rewind.
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I actually found a program online which you can use
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for transcribing, and I mean it just helps it. I
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can put the audio in there and it makes it
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easier to start and stop, and if you need to
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rewind a couple of seconds, you can do that. And
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it does have a foot pedal, but I just end
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up never using that. But I found that earlier this year,
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and it makes it so much easier.
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Good. I was going to recommend the one I used
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to you if you didn't have one just like that,
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so because I know they're out there. Yes, man, before
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there was you know, you can program little function buttons
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on your computer to rewind ten seconds and slow down
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the tech, slow down the h the audio playback and
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oh it made it so much easier.
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Yeah, that's it's still it's it's rough either way, but yeah,
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it's still it's not as bad as it once was.
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We're boring people now with this terrible the terrible things
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we have to go through, Brian, with our fingers having
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to touch keyboards while listening to wrestlers and promoters talk.
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It's so it's so rough what we have to go through. Anyhow,
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let's uh, let's go ahead and and give listeners a
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little bit of background on how you've gotten involved in
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wrestling and the different companies you've worked for, and any
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other kind of talking points like that about uh, about
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your experiences as a reporter.
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Basically, I, you know, I wanted to do the radio show.
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I started working in radio back in ninety six and
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got a communications degree.
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Brian, Brian, I'm sorry, can you explain to our listeners
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what radio is?
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Oh?
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That they might not broadcast, but way back in the day,
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there's a thing all the radio, I know.
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Right, So no, But I was working at a sports
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radio station and I convinced the program director let me
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do a radio show. So that's when between the roups
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started back in ninety eight, and did the radio show
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for a long time, and you know, started making my
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way there when it comes to interviews and everything. And
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off of that, I ended up started writing for The
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Orlando Sentinel for a little while, and then I wrote
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for All FanHouse for about a year and a half
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before it went away to the Dodo Bird. And since then,
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I've made a couple returns to The Orlando Sentinel, including now,
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and I've also been writing for Sporting News lately, and
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I also did some stuff for Foxsports dot Com lately
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as well. So I'm just kind of like all over
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the place when it comes to different places that I've
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you know, done radio for and written for. When it
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comes to the radio show, you know, I did that
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for over a decade and they even switched stations here
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in Orlando, and uh I ended up. You know, I
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don't know how.
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Many years ago was.
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We were on the air for like twelve thirteen years,
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and then finally I said, you know what, there's so
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much more when it comes to podcasts and everything right now,
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and it is going to be easier. So he just
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made the transition to online. Only Before that, I mean,
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we were doing both, but you know, it just made
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it made a lot of sense at that point just
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to transition, considering everything else that was going on and
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continue doing the podcast for all these different years.
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Very cool. Okay, Let's let's take our first phone call,
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and then after that, I want to talk about finsic
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Man and uh uh they approach the interview. If you
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don't want to get in line on the phone banks
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six four, six, seven to one, nine eight two eight,
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let's go to eight six two first eight six two
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state to name and where you're calling from?
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Kiln from New Jersey.
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Kylin, good to hear from you. What have you got
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for Brian Fritz? I bet you got I bet. I'm
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just guessing here, Kylon, I'm just guessing. Okay, but tell
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me if I'm my over under is.
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Correct?
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All right? Good? Go ahead.
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Of course. Question number one for you, Brian, after your
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recent interview with Vince McMahon, has your personal perspective of
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him changed in any way? And if so, how? Uh? No?
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I don't think it really has. You know, you go
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into different interviews speaking with different people where you always
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your stories, some positive, some negative about different people, but
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you don't really know until you have an opportunity to
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speak with him. I remember years ago that I was
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getting an opportunity to speak with Randy Savage, and somebody
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had told me like, oh, good luck with that, you know,
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because he doesn't like to break k baby. And and
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then Randy came on the show and he was great
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and he told stories and fantastic, And I remember that
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he came on following like the next week he wanted
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to come back on, and then I had him on
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several times past them, like every year around WrestleMania. He
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just knew to expect the call from me to come on.
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And I didn't want to take advantage of having a
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mom because I knew he didn't like to do too
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many of them. But he had gotten along with me,
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so you know. It was interesting with Vince mcsbahan. I
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I'd interviewed him a couple of times previous, but it
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had been a long time ago. There was only one
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other time where I did it face to face, and
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that was when the XFL came to town, and that
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was how many years ago? Was that way twenty years
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ago now whatever it was.
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About, I think more like fifteen.
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Fifteen, so you know, and I did that interview there,
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but yeah, I was just as curious as anybody, like
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what it's going to be like, you know, to sit
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down with him, and you know, I found him to
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be very open, very approachable, and he made the whole
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situation very comfortable, and that's why we ended up going
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for like twenty minutes when originally we were scheduled for two,
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and then it was it was a great conversation.
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I'm glad to know that this isn't as scary as he.
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Let's you say, Brian caught him on a good day then,
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because he certainly I've heard enough stories he can have
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his moments, as he admits.
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A question number two for you, Brian regarding Roman reigns, Dude,
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do you think that eventually Roman will reach a point
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in his career where, even.
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Though he doesn't appear to be getting over now, that
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either he will find finds his way as a performer
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or fans will become tired of the Muhammad Ali rope
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booie and just kind of accept the fact though this
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is the level he's going to be, So maybe we
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should take him for what he is.
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Will they submit? Will they submit? Yeah?
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I think I think sooner or later fans will. I mean,
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obviously there's a big backlash about it right now. I
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think when it comes to Roman, you know, as a performer,
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at least in the ring, I think he's you know,
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he's made leaves some bounds as he started to Remember
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this is a guy that's only been in the business
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for about five years now. I think he's only going
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to continue to get better. I think he's really good
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right now.
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I think the key point when it comes to Roman
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is two things. Number One that so many people think
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that he should be not be getting the type of
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push that he's getting right now, so you know they're
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going to fight back. And the other thing is is
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obviously the promos. And I think he knows just as
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much as anybody that that's a place he's got to
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work on. And for some people, you know, when you
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get handed the script and try to relay that into
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being yourself to the audience, it can be difficult, and
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some other people they can do it a little bit easier.
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And I think Roman's had a little He's had some
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tough time with that, and it's just a process of
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continuing that and finding his own voice. And this goes
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to the whole theory that I know you've talked about
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twenty times too. Wait, is the overscripting a talent?
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Yeah, I'm hoping Roman comes back from this time off,
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this kind of mid wrestle anya season and has the
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chance to just kind of take a deep breath, get
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an idea of what his voice is going to be.
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And something I've talked to Steve Austin about on his
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shoe Steve, you know, is astute student of observing what
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wrestlers need to do to get to that next level. Heck,
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Nick Foley too last week talked about that with Bray Wyatt.
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You know what brain needs to do to kind of
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get to that next level. And sometimes you get in that,
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in that grind and in that cycle of just pack
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and unpacked travel. Here's a script read it. Do what
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you're told, make your money, and you don't have time
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to kind of sit back and think who are you?
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Who are you at your core that you want to
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convey to the fans, and can you work that into
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the scripted promos or stray from them with permission? And
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I'm hoping that Roman comes back with more to say
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that feels more natural and less like, you know, the
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scripted pop culture reference of the week and the lame
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joke of the week that you know Sina tried to
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pull off and previously and Rock you know, managed to
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pull off years ago. I'm going, well, Colin, go ahead
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with your final topic.
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And my final question for you, Brian, since since you
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did discuss this with Vince a little bit, do you,
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in your personal opinion, since that Shane McMahon may eventually
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read assume a corporate role with it.
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Thanks Kylin, good topics. You know what, I want to
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add one thing to that question, Brian before answer Vincent Matt,
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you talked about a Randy Savage, you know, didn't you
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heard he didn't like to break KFA. But he's a
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great guest. I enjoyed Vince in your interview with him,
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when when you asked about that, he goes, well, we'll
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have to find out what happens at WrestleMania, what the
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result of that matches. Yeah, he's a little little kind
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of tongue in cheek k fabe there with you in
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that instance.
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Yeah, it was one of those things where even before
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that he was kind of open about it and talked
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about the relationship and everything, but he didn't want to
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give that part away, which I understand. And you know,
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I think that's kind of the cat and mouse game
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that's going on. I think it's one of these situations
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where I think they're open to bringing Sheen back in
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their role. It's just what role would it be in?
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What does what does Sheane want to do? What would
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Vince want to do? How does that fit with with
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Paul and with Stephanie, And where's everybody's comfort level at
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and how would that work. So there's a lot of
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different layers that go into that, but I do think
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that if he really wants to come back and be
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a part of it, as long as he accepts the
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role that's been carved out for him, then he can
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come back, and he will come back.
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Yeah, Yeah, I think it's gonna be one of the
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interesting stories to watch. Vince got into a little bit saying,
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in his words, you know, we had heard behind the scenes,
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we heard the scripted kind of the words exchange that
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are part of the show. But in your interview with him,
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Vince talked about how there comes a point where the
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son gets to a certain age and wants to take
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over but the father isn't ready to yet and alluded to,
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you know, a power struggle back then. And you know,
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certainly there's plenty of whispers and reporting that says there's
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something to what they're talking about on the air, you know.
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And I don't know if ultimatum is a word, but certainly,
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you know when Shane left that that was preceded by
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some sort of clash behind the scenes. The level of cordialness,
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we just don't know. That's been kept pretty private, so
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it's gonna be interesting if after this time away, you know,
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spreading his wings outside of WWE, if he comes back,
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and how Hunter and Stephanie are receptive to that, it's
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a real interesting political web. Absolutely, yep, Brian, Do you
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have to go for about five minutes right now or
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not yet? Quite yet?
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Yeah?
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Okay, then right now, you go do that because I've
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got to get a couple sponsorship messages in and a
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couple other comments, and we'll come back. We'll take calls,
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and we'll also dissect some of that Vincent Man interview
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because I kind of want to walk through some of
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the more interesting topics he brought up. So we'll we'll
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talk to him about five minutes. Brian when you get
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back for what you got to do here.
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Sounds a good, Thanks, excellent, all right.
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So Brian Fritz is our guest if you joined us
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mid stream here on Interview Thursday. Veteran progressing reporter, he
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has interviewed so many big names in person and on
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the radio and in his podcast. As he talked about
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the biggest name yet a rare somewhat extended Q and
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A with Vincic Man twenty minutes of talk with Vince
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I'll talk about with Brian if he left anything out,
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did he leave anything out of that of that interview,
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and was there any question he asked Vince that Vince
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didn't want to answer. That we didn't get from the
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from the trend script since there isn't audio available of it.
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I do want to note that we have a sponsor
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Right Brian, whether you watch the show in one analysis
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Slash go v I P All right, well, let's now
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see if Brian Fritz is available to rejoin the program. Brian,
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are you there?
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Yes, I'm ready?
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Excellent, good, it worked out well. We got plug in
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and commercial in and we're ready to roll. Brian, I
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want to walk through a few aspects of the or
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some quotes in the vincick Mann interview that you did.
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One thing I mentioned while you were away, is was
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there anything that you asked Vince that he shot you
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a look or refused to answer, or didn't give enough
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of an answer that was worth transcribing. Is there anything
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in the transcript that you just ended up leaving out
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for space reasons or for other reasons.
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No, absolutely none. Everything that you saw that was written
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in that transcript was the interview worked for word. We
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did not cut anything out. And no, he never once
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gave me a look about anything about the way I
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was asking a question or a question that I asked.
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And even going into the interview, I was never told
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that there was any parameters going into it.
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That's always nice as a reporter, isn't it.
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Oh?
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Absolutely, you know, and I never thought that there would be.
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I mean, obviously I was going to talk about WrestleMania
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coming to Orlando and a couple of things about that.
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But they understood, you know, that I was going to
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be asking some other things, I mean, wouldout be even
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saying it was one of those things that they understood
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where I was coming from, and I understood different key
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points that needed to be talked about when it came
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to the announcement of WrestleMania come into Orlando next year.
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So you know, it was great that, you know, none
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of that really had to be spoken from a standpoint
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of hey, please don't bring this up, or let's not
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go there, or let's keep it to this.
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So it was it was an open book.
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And is there anything in retrospect? And I've been through
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this where you get done with the interview, especially of
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Insick Man one where you're kind of on the spot
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and you're like, oh, you know, I wish I would
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have asked him about this or that. When you're especially
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when I transcribe interviews, I think, oh, this would have
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been a good time. As this anything come to mind
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while you were doing that where you're kicking yourself a
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little bit.
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There was a couple of things, but it was not
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a two major Like one of them was the question
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about the physical Hall of Fame that you know, I
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kind of wish I had, you know, But I mean,
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as you know too, when you're doing interviews, sometimes you
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want to make sure that something fits into the conversation,
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into the flow and the direction that you're going. So
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sometimes you don't want to wedge anything in r but
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I probably should have asked about the Hall of Fame,
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and that one kind of slipped my mind. The only
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other thing, with looking back on it there that I
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can really think of was maybe a little bit more
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when it came to, you know, his age and legacy,
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because he's the one that brought up the age. He's
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the one that brought up that he was seventy years
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old on two different occasions during the interview, So you know,
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maybe I could have asked enough a follow up about that, like,
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you know, are you starting to think a little bit
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more about your legacy and what the company is going
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to be like, you know when it gets passed on,
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you know, once you are not you know, running it.
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Yeah, yep. So in the in the interview, he talked
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about John Cena not being part of WrestleMania for the
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first time. That's a big deal and I'm glad that
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you asked him in a couple of different ways. I
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think it came up, you know, was it tougher to
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put this lineup together with so many injuries? And he
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listed the injuries, you know, people who aren't available and
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maybe being available next year, making things easier when he
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was talking about Sena did did he seem kind of
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pained it when he was talking about it, or was
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it sort of sort of like why I've been through
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thirty two of these and many other big shows, this
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stuff happens and kind of kind of brushing it off.
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Because it's hard to tell from the transcript what the
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tone was when talking about the hardship of not having
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seen available.
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When the conversation first started and we talked about John
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not being there because this was fresh off the president
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where Sina was talking about, you know what, it hurts
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me that I'm not going to be a part of
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WrestleMania this year because I'm rehabbing an injury. That's where
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the conversation began. I mean, quite honestly, that's where the
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interview began. Is we were just talking and we went
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into the room and just from the conversation where it
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was going, he saw that I started to record and
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he was fine with that. It wasn't like, hey, Ben,
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so I'm going to start rolling now. I made it
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obvious of what I was doing. We continued with our
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conversation and it was just talking about you know, their
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their quick turnover from Chicago and he went right into
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John and it pained him. I mean he I mean
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that tone was a little bit lost in the conversation there,
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but it pained him to know that John was not
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going to be there. And and you know, and also
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he knew the pain at John talt because he wanted
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to be there so bad because you know, he's been
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doing this for so long and he still loves to
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do it and he's a big part of it, but
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you know, he's got that injury and he can't do
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it this year.
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What's your feeling on the Shane McMahon Undertaker match, which
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essentially is replacing what probably would have been a John
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Cena Undertaker match. You know, a lot of a wide
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range of opinions. People who love Shane can't believe nobody
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or that everybody doesn't. And then people who think it's
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ludicrous that a forty six year old executive son of
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a promoter who's never been a full time wrestler would
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be one of Undertaker's final showcase matches at WrestleMania, and
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it's ludicrous and doesn't make any sense, and they can't
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believe anybody would want Shane in this match. And then
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there's people kind of in the middle who are like, wow,
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they were in And I'm probably more in the middle
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than some people think on this in the sense that
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it's ridiculous and makes no sense, and I think they
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should tell a good story around it. But I also
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understand there wasn't another great option. Greg Parks in this
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week's Progressing Torch newsletter, you know, ran through a lot
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of what I'm talking about here. There weren't really great
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options left. And when you're sitting at the table and
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jotting down, well, Bronze Strohman, or we could do Bray Wyatt,
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or we could do Kevin Owens, you know, Vince is
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looking and just thinking the Shane mcmancart is probably what's
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going to create a buzz, And I think they're right
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in that it's certainly created more interest, excitement, and buzz.
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But I still wonder what price they're paying from just
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an integrity of the match itself standpoint, because Undertaker, even
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at his age, Brian is a pro wrestler with a
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phenomenal record, and Shane is not pudgy necessarily but not exactly.
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You know, this bodybuilder, world class, proven pro wrestler athletes.
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So I'm kind of curious where you fall on that spectrum.
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I'm really interested in it for a couple of reasons.
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I want to see what Shane looks like back in
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the ring. I think there's gonna be a lot of
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bills and whistles that go into this. I want to
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see exactly what they do to make this match stand
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out when it comes to what the two guys in
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the ring do, because with Shane McMahon being out there
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and him having no conscious, I think that he is
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going to do something spectacular. And I am very interested
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in seeing how they do a finish in this match,
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what exactly the finish is, who else might be involved,
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all the different things that come into play here, and
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then the ramifications of the match as well. I mean,
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there's a lot of things to play with, you know,
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and so many different times that it comes to WrestleMania,
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And I agree with this that I want to see
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exactly what happens in the ring. But at the same time,
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with a match like this, I think that they can
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they have enough things to play with where they can
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make the match good and they can keep the audience intrigued.
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But this match, more so than any other on the card,
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I think is the one where the storyline around it
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and the other bit players that can be involved play
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a huge factor into it. And that's what really intrigues me.
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Yeah, yep, And I mean I think you're exactly right
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that there' gonna be a spectacle. There's gonna be bells
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and whistles. They've got to make it seem credible. I'm
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most curious between now and the end of that match
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at WrestleMania Undertaker's role, you know, how does this play
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into his legacy, because Undertaker is very proud of his
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legacy and how he's portrayed. He took tremendous, tremendous pride
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in the quality of his matches during the hot run
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over the you know, ever since the Randy Orton matches, probably,
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but maybe even a little before that, when his matches
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at Rsumania went from kind of gimmicky bells and whistles
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matches with not a lot of athleticism to world class
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matches that tacked on this whole chapter to Taker's career
722
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.159
that I don't think in nineteen ninety eight anybody thought
723
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.239
would happen. And I think even by two thousand and two,
724
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:43.039
people thought he's on the downswing, not the upswing. So
725
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.159
I'm curious from an integrity of his character standpoint, fighting
726
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.719
for the authority and against a favorite like Shane, how
727
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.440
his character plays that, how he plays that both leading
728
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.480
up to an end in the ring. So I'm intrigued.
729
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.800
I'm not I wouldn't say'm one hundred percent confident they'll
730
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.039
sack us find me because I think, again, this was
731
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.079
a tough call with a lack of options, and they
732
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:06.840
might not be able to make it make total sense,
733
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.559
but still it's got us talking, and it's it's buzz generating,
734
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.519
and hey, they Dave Meltzer reported over over eighty thousand
735
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.639
tickets sold already and they're probably gonna hit They're probably
736
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.159
even going to break the ninety three thousand number that
737
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.360
WWE touts WrestleMania three drew. That is a contested number.
738
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.519
Seventy eight thousand, Dave Meltzer has been reporting for The
739
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.840
Wrestling Observer for decades is the real number based on
740
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.599
his sources, but others just stick with ninety three. But
741
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.079
whatever it is, I think they'll probably break it, which
742
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.400
would be amazing, and probably the Shane matches help and
743
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.039
sell some tickets, you know, The.
744
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.559
One thing that WrestleMania was really missing, even you know,
745
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.039
going back three weeks ago, was buzz and a lot
746
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.079
of it was because of the injuries, especially when it
747
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.599
comes to John Cena, and what are they going to do?
748
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.880
Are they going to have to go to some kind
749
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.800
of entertainer or athlete that's usually not in here? And
750
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.559
you know, in a way, that's what they did. But
751
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.280
I mean, they kind of pup the switch on this
752
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.760
when it came to there was a lot of people
753
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.719
that weren't talking a lot about WrestleMania going this year,
754
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.679
more so than in past years. They're going to have
755
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:13.559
to sell WrestleMania on the brand alone. But they generated
756
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.159
a ton of buzz and excitement because they brought back
757
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.760
Shane McMahon. And I mean, there is a guy that
758
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.079
you haven't seen in six years. You put together this
759
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.280
highlight package of all these crazy stunts that he did
760
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.719
when he was out there. Obviously he's a pretty good
761
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.199
tucker and he's a McMahon, and you put him in
762
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.119
there events, and you put him in there with Stephanie,
763
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:33.719
and you mix it all up and you add the
764
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:38.079
stipulation to it, and it's got people talking what is.
765
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:42.360
The mood like or the feeling like in Orlando for WrestleMania,
766
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.960
And how many WrestleManias have you gone to in person?
767
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.760
Let's see, I had been to every WrestleMania since twenty
768
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.559
four and I am going this year, so this will
769
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.599
be what my ninth went in a row and my
770
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.480
tenth went overall because I went to WrestleMania twenty at
771
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.639
Madison Square Garden Buzz's Day. People are excited to have
772
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.039
WrestleMania back. It was funny because you know, you go
773
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:06.800
to these press events and there's a lot of mainstream
774
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.159
media that are there that traditionally probably do not follow
775
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.400
w W or any kind of wrestling, and I'm always
776
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.920
curious what the reaction is going to be, especially when
777
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.400
ww is putting out a presentation and like the one
778
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.800
that they started on Tuesday, A New Day comes out
779
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.519
and they're doing you know, a skit and people actually,
780
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.159
you know, we're entertained. They were lapping, they were interacted
781
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.199
with it a little bit, and people were very receptive
782
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.400
the everything that was being talked about. They understand WWE
783
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.639
a lot better and what they're doing, and they also,
784
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.159
top of that, understand the impact that it has on
785
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.119
an economy, so you know, they understand a lot more,
786
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.199
a lot more educated on the wrestling business overall, and
787
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:47.920
there's a lot of excitement in town.
788
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.480
For come from city to city from attending so many WrestleManias.
789
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.480
Is there are there some cities where you wouldn't even
790
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:57.719
know wressemanas in town except because you're there for it,
791
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.719
and others where you just everywhere you go, or a
792
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.239
lot of places there's a sense through billboards and T
793
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.360
shirts and fans walking around and people talking. Do you
794
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.679
kind of notice that difference or is it all kind
795
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.480
of similar. It's just a different city, but a similar
796
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:10.159
level of buzz.
797
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.280
For the most part, it's pretty similar because now even
798
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.119
when you get off a plane and go to a city,
799
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.679
there's WrestleMania signage there in the airport, and that's definitely
800
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:21.400
become prevalent the last few years. There are some cities
801
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.000
where it's a little bit more prevalent, Like you know,
802
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:25.679
when they had in New York City a couple of
803
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.039
years ago. I stay at a hotel that was in
804
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.599
secaucas New Jersey, so I actually wasn't too far from
805
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.199
the building, and like they had some WrestleMania themed stuff
806
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.400
in the hotel, But the presence of WrestleMania probably wasn't
807
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.840
as prevalent in the city just because it's so big
808
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.840
of a city and everything's spread out. There was definitely
809
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.679
some stuff there, But then you go to New Orleans
810
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.679
and it was everywhere you know, and I mean you.
811
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.159
Name it, it was, it was.
812
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:55.079
WWE and they totally took over that city. So I
813
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:56.800
see it a lot more now on every cy I
814
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.159
go to, but there's somewhere you see it a little
815
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:00.000
bit more than others.
816
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.519
The idea of ww WE coming back to Orlando every
817
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.840
five years was something kind of you brought up or
818
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.199
said maybe the mayor would like, do you think WrestleMania
819
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.880
will be to Orlando regularly? Almost like kind of a
820
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:18.079
go to city because it's super family friendly, great airports, obviously,
821
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:22.239
it's got great weather, a great facility, and a city
822
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.400
that embraces it. There's a lot of good things working
823
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:26.000
in its favor, and if there's actually a physical hall
824
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.679
of fame there that adds to it. Do you think
825
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.840
going to the same city every four or five six years,
826
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.920
perhaps just every five years on the nose almost is
827
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.559
a good idea or a bad idea for WWW and Orlando.
828
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.480
Well, for Orlando, it's definitely a great deal because of
829
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.599
the money that it can be generated, you know, for
830
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.079
the city, and just having that presence of saying there
831
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.079
is a massive event that is just one notch below
832
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.719
or some would argue the same level of a super Bowl,
833
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.840
and we have the prestige of having in our city.
834
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.760
So for Orlando, it's a big thing. For WWE. Obviously,
835
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.719
they want to go to whatever city is going to
836
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.360
give them the best deal, and they love being able
837
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.119
to say, look at all the different cities that we
838
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.840
take WrestleMania too. But you know, certain cities have to
839
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:10.719
be able to have all the infrastructure and everything that
840
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.280
goes into it to be able to host WrestleMania and
841
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.079
all the activities that come with it, you know, within
842
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:18.440
their city and do it the right way that WWE
843
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.840
wants to see. So I do think it's possible to
844
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.039
come back to Orlando, you know, every five, six, seven years.
845
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.719
I wouldn't say every four years probably, but I could
846
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:32.000
maybe see five, probably closer to six. But because I
847
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.840
mean everything that they like is right here. Because you've
848
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.760
got weather, you've got the facilities that they want, and
849
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.320
like you said, you know, performance center is here, full
850
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.719
sales here, or they've got a relationship there. You know,
851
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.320
they could possibly have a physical Hall of Fame here.
852
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:49.480
And on top of that, for people that only want
853
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:50.840
to go to WrestleMania and don't want to go to
854
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.559
the other stuff, but they want to come to the
855
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.440
city early, You've got Disney World, you've got Universal Studios,
856
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.599
You've got SeaWorld here, You're an hour away from going
857
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.719
to the you know, so there's there's so many added
858
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.159
things that are here that other cities just can't offer.
859
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.199
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Going back to your interview, Brian Vince talked about Shane
870
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.679
Stephanie Hunter. Did you get a sense in person when
871
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.559
he was talking about Shane and talking about Hunter if
872
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.719
he was giving away any any indications of how he
873
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.679
feels about their different roles and you talked about the
874
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.599
Lego set, but he also talked about the future of WWE,
875
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.159
perhaps without vincick Mann, although he joked he'll either never
876
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:06.880
die or he might have a heart attack right here
877
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.960
and now you know he's kind of making light of it.
878
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.639
But did you get any sense from being there with
879
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.840
him as he talked about Shane and stephan Hunter anything
880
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.519
jump out to you in the tone and the approach
881
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.840
he took to speaking about them as the future leaders
882
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:21.280
of that company.
883
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.119
To me, he sounded pretty excited about it, Like I
884
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.360
think he feels the comfort level that he hasn't felt
885
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.559
in the past when it comes to being able to
886
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:33.280
trust people that are in a position to make crucial
887
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:35.360
decisions when it comes to the company with him there
888
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.880
and you know, in the future, because that's something that
889
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.280
obviously he has had his thumb for anounce so many
890
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.519
different areas. He still does, but he was the guy
891
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.000
that ran everything, and while he is still at the
892
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.519
top of the food chain, you know, he he has to,
893
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.000
you know, give a lot of different responsibilities to other
894
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.079
people because the company has grown, you know, so much,
895
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.920
and there's so many different areas, so many different tentacles
896
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.840
that are now a part of WWE. I think that
897
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:03.880
he's happy that he's got people that he can trust
898
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.880
to do the job, do the job right. And on
899
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.079
top of that, some of them are family members, which
900
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.159
makes it even better for him, you know. I mean
901
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.159
that that's something that he wants to keep this company
902
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.800
in this family, you know, for generations to come. So,
903
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.440
you know, I think that's something that that he's pretty
904
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.559
excited about. And by the way, when when he talked
905
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.119
about you know, you know, I could drop that of
906
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.039
a heart attack right here. I think the only taken
907
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.599
out of the kind of the interview, I don't think
908
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.760
it was in the print, was that Ki had said,
909
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:35.599
he goes, what a story you'd have done, Brian Vinsic
910
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.920
times of a heart attack? And uh, and I joked
911
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.119
something like, I go, it would get a lot of clicks,
912
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.559
but I don't think it's a story I really want
913
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.360
to write yeah, and that's taking a nice laugh too,
914
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:52.400
so yeah, you know, I mean laugh about anything.
915
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.639
It's a nice technique to let the person you're interviewing
916
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.000
know that you're not looking for a scoop that entails
917
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.039
them dying in front of you.
918
00:44:59.280 --> 00:44:59.960
Yeah, exactly.
919
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.639
It's just like, you know, it was like, what was
920
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:04.559
I supposed to say? I go, yeah, while you're down.
921
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.400
I'll kick you, you know, because he was even joking too.
922
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.880
He's like, I'm here having a heart attack and Brian
923
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:10.480
won't give me CPR, you know.
924
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.679
Oh man, all right. Another thing that Vince brought up
925
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.239
is the the locker room mentality. And I don't know
926
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.800
how much you get a feeling of this over your
927
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:26.119
ears interviewing wrestlers, but do you sense that Vince is
928
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.960
spinning a little bit, or that it's real genuine that
929
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:33.159
as he put it, it used to be almost literally
930
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.480
a cutthroat business between wrestlers, and now it's more of
931
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.800
a team effort. Do you sense that with the wrestlers
932
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.039
that they feel that they're part of a team and
933
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:45.199
it's not cutthroat competition. Is that a sense you get
934
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:46.960
from being around the wrestlers and talking to them.
935
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.360
I definitely get that doing when it comes to guys
936
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.199
in NXTAM and I think there is a difference still
937
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.199
obviously when you go from NXT to WWEE because you
938
00:45:56.239 --> 00:46:00.000
are in such a different level and it's different leadership
939
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.679
because you are under Vince McMahon then, I mean, obviously
940
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:05.960
you are when you're in NXT, but Vince isn't his
941
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.280
hands on about that. I mean, that's that's Triple Ahs project.
942
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.280
So when you go to the main roster, it's a
943
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.960
different ballgame up there. But I do get the sense
944
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:17.760
from you know, the different guys that have even come
945
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.599
from X two now that obviously they want to do
946
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:22.320
the best that they can and they want to have
947
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:26.480
a spot, but they are truly appreciative of the other
948
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.880
people that are around them, especially the ones that came
949
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:29.840
up through NXT with.
950
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:34.440
Them, or people they even knew before they joined the company, And.
951
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.440
They're genuinely happy to see other people succeed and they
952
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.000
want to work with them, and they want to see
953
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:39.800
other people, you know, do a good job, and they
954
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.000
want the company overall to you know, continue to have
955
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.239
great business and they want to have great matches with everybody,
956
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.559
and you know, they just want everybody to be part
957
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.079
of one happy family. Now, like I said, you feel
958
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.159
that a lot more with XT than you do it
959
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.440
the main roster. So that's the question of where does
960
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.880
it actually change a little bit to the people on
961
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.239
the main roster. I don't think it's there yet. And
962
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.079
I think some of that is because you know, that's
963
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.000
been his territory. You know that that's what his priority
964
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:13.119
is going to be. You know, I do think I
965
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.920
don't think it was just him talking and giving me
966
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.800
an answer because that's what he wanted to portray. Because
967
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.159
obviously there was so much made of that brass ring comment,
968
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.599
you know, when he went on with Stone Cold, you know,
969
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:26.760
on the network over a year ago, and he talked
970
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.000
about that with Cesarro. But I do wonder if he's
971
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.719
starting to now look at it a little bit different
972
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.000
new saying, you know, I have my ways when it
973
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:39.320
comes to, you know, running the company and even running
974
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.840
the talent. But at the same time, maybe I need
975
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.719
to adjust a little bit to my talent because they're
976
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.239
not going to adjust to me just because they have
977
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.280
a different mentality and because now I'm a seven year
978
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.239
old man and these people are between twenty and thirty
979
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.000
years old, so maybe maybe I need to adjust a
980
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:56.400
little bit.
981
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.000
He joked about how, you know, he acts like a team,
982
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.559
but because I'm so old, I'm seventy years old, I'm
983
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.280
not going to change, and I sometimes act like a teenager.
984
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:10.079
What kind of demeanor did Vince give off? I mean,
985
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.639
there's a whole range of seventy year olds. There's Ernie
986
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.320
Sanders who's in his mid seventies and he kind of
987
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.480
looks it, but he has this like energy when he's
988
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.480
on stage. And then he got Donald Trump, who's also
989
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.559
right around seventy, and he's he wants to be president.
990
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:27.880
Hillary a few couple of years away from seventy, she
991
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.480
might be president. Seventy does not mean it's the end.
992
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.480
I think a lot of people looked at Vince getting
993
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:34.760
deep into his sixties and just thought, well, any day
994
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.159
now there's gonna be some news. You know, he's gonna
995
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.599
be He's gonna not run the company anymore for any
996
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.679
number of reasons, some more bid, some not. And yet
997
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.360
when you look at politics and what's going on this year,
998
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.280
that's just yes. I mean, we just had a forty
999
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.159
four year old Canadian prime minister meet with President Obama today.
1000
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.679
So you can certainly have young leaders, but right now
1001
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:55.599
it's skewing older in terms of those who are leading
1002
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.159
in the polls, with at least three of the top
1003
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:02.679
candidates with How did he come across as a seventy
1004
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.800
year old, especially having been around his energy and seeing
1005
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:10.800
him interact and move around just as a celebrity and
1006
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.000
a boss at other functions that you've been at, he.
1007
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.800
Look the same that I've seen him at previously. You know,
1008
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.960
he's still excited about the product. He's excited to have
1009
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.480
the position that he's in. He's excited to see the
1010
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.760
town go out there and perform, and he wants the
1011
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:31.039
audience to be entertainment what they're doing. You know, he
1012
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.199
definitely does say you know, he wants to be behind
1013
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.440
the scenes a lot more of that. I think the
1014
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.920
reason that he is out there right now and we
1015
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.280
see him on television involved in the storyline is because
1016
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.559
of necessity. Because John Tena had been healthy at the
1017
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.360
roster have been healthier, I don't think you'd be out there.
1018
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.239
I think he felt like he had to do this
1019
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.159
because of the amount of injuries that were going on
1020
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.360
and we're going into WrestleMania season, and he went out
1021
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.159
of his way to say, you know what, I don't
1022
00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:59.079
want to be a performer as much. I really don't
1023
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.719
want to be a performer at all, you.
1024
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.440
Know, I want to be behind scenes.
1025
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.440
I want to produce, so I want to direct. I
1026
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.239
think he gets a ton of enjoyment out of that,
1027
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.159
and that's where he wants to be going forward. But
1028
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.079
he's very excited about the product going forward, just as
1029
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:13.360
much as the amberoits.
1030
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.599
He seems to take real pride in running a big corporation.
1031
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:20.239
He talks about that a lot, you know. I know
1032
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.960
in the nineties he was upset with Ted Turner a
1033
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.320
lot of the time, but also aspired to be a
1034
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.360
multi media mogule like him, you know. I mean, he's
1035
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.719
tried his hand at so many different things, a record
1036
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.679
label at the very end of CDs being something you
1037
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.559
could make money on, and a movie division, and the
1038
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:41.199
XFL and going back to the boxing boxing promotion that
1039
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.480
he did with Sugary Leonard and Donnie Leland. I think
1040
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:50.360
if I remember, right, man, yes, so so many He's
1041
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.599
dipped his toes in so many places, but in the end,
1042
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.159
it's really wrestling, and he talked about the network, and
1043
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.760
it seems like the network is kind of with all
1044
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.320
the and he alluded to it, the failures, the attempts
1045
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.480
to do something that didn't work out. It seems like
1046
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.679
the network is going to be something that he takes
1047
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.320
pride in being part of his legacy. What did you
1048
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.000
sense with him when he was talking about the network,
1049
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.760
because he made it seem like the way I read it, Yeah,
1050
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.559
maybe we were a little too soon on it, a
1051
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.719
little too aggressive, which I thought was an interesting admission.
1052
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.480
I haven't heard that on the financials, but now people
1053
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.400
are following us and we've made the right call. I'm paraphrasing,
1054
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.440
of course, but yeah, talk about what he sounded like
1055
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:29.360
when he was talking about the network experiments and as
1056
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:30.519
committed as they are to it now.
1057
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:31.239
Yeah.
1058
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:33.159
I thought that was a pretty interesting comment too, and
1059
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.880
I think that that's something that he understands. We've had
1060
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.880
to adjusting the fly because media is changing so quickly,
1061
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.519
and they jumped into the network, they had certain projections
1062
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.440
and obviously they did not hit right off the bat,
1063
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:48.599
but it is far far from a failure, and you
1064
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:50.599
see it starting to grow and grow more now more
1065
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:55.039
people are keeping their subscriptions to the network, and we're
1066
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.039
seeing it expand in the other countries. So it's becoming
1067
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.239
more and more of a success to where they I
1068
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.880
thought it would be. I mean, it's still far from
1069
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:05.840
the two million subscribers that they thought they would have
1070
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:09.039
here closing in by now, but you know, it's growing,
1071
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.400
so they're happy with that. I thought it was really
1072
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:14.639
interesting too when he talked about social media, and he
1073
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.880
even said, you know, when it comes to distribution of
1074
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.599
Ron SmackDown, social media might be the way to go
1075
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.920
in the future when it comes to say wall or SmackDown,
1076
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.880
because there's just so many people on social media and
1077
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.320
it's growing, you know, exponentially still, you know, with Twitter
1078
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.719
and Facebook and there's so many other platforms that are
1079
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:33.679
out there, and there's plenty more to come.
1080
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:35.559
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
1081
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.880
Hey everyone, Greg Parks here. You've probably heard me hosting
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00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.159
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00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.920
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Out Loud. In this podcast, I delve into a single
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Let's sneak in an email here. This regards next year's WrestleMania,
1104
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:45.360
so it's a good one to pick out here. Anthony says,
1105
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.079
having had what I thought was once in a lifetime
1106
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:50.119
trip from Australia to WrestleMania, last year, my wife said
1107
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:53.000
we could go back if it was in Orlando again
1108
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.000
because she wanted to go to Disney World again. See
1109
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:56.719
it's what you're talking about, Brian, Orlando being a good
1110
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.079
city for that. So needless to say, we have already
1111
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.159
booked accommodation. What do you think of the potential lineup
1112
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:04.199
for thirty three? I tease that we talk about this, Brian.
1113
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.360
I know some are down on the thirty two card
1114
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.280
due to injuries, but a card with Seth Baller Club
1115
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:13.920
or Bullet Club, AJ Styles, Kevin Owens, Sammy Zain, Shinsky, Nakamura, Samoa,
1116
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.519
Joe Cizarro, and Randy Orton all added to the current
1117
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.239
roster and a possible Undertaker Sina match has me wishing
1118
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.440
it was twenty seventeen already, and I was sitting with
1119
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.840
my son at Minni Balor on Twitter. By the way,
1120
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.960
that's a Sun's handle. Good job on getting that one,
1121
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:32.400
watching Finn Balor's WrestleMania debut. Brian, your your thoughts. I
1122
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.280
think if you're going to get a WrestleMania and if
1123
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.800
you're Orlando, twenty seventeen has a chance to be pretty special,
1124
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:41.320
because I think it could be the final Undertaker match
1125
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:45.719
and an epic Undertaker Sina match, and a lot of
1126
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.840
names that are back from injury, and as Anthony said
1127
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:51.960
in this email, a lot of a lot of wrestlers
1128
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.360
who have never been on WrestleMania before who were excited
1129
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.639
about give me your predicted a predicted lineup of a
1130
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:01.679
few me matches that you think intrigued you if they
1131
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:02.280
go that direction.
1132
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.880
Well, I do think that if that roster is healthy,
1133
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.440
that has the potential to be one of the best
1134
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.679
WrestleManias when it comes to work great that they've ever
1135
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:14.559
had as much as I think that could be the
1136
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.880
Undertaker's last match, and may very well be. If I
1137
00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:20.280
had the guests with the main event for WrestleMania thirty
1138
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.320
three with you right now, I would guess Roman Reigns
1139
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:27.559
against John Cena, and I would not have Seena taking
1140
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:28.360
on the Undertaker.
1141
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.840
You you would rather you we would rather have that, or
1142
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:32.400
you think that's more likely or both.
1143
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.840
I think that's more likely, yeah, because I've always thought,
1144
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:40.599
like so many other people, the last match for Taker
1145
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.360
would still be, you know, at WrestleMania against John Cena,
1146
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.719
and it made very well happen. But I just have
1147
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.239
this sense, especially with cinam missing a WrestleMania and with
1148
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.159
so much emphasis on Roman Reigns. And I think that
1149
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.400
you know, at some point that match might have even
1150
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.679
happened this year before Sena went down, but the way
1151
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.639
that would get it now, I mean, Sina still means
1152
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.920
so much to this company, tim rightfully, so that that
1153
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.840
I think that that, yeah, we sit here right now.
1154
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.079
I might be dead wrong, but I think that would
1155
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.880
be on you know, on paper right now in pencil,
1156
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.079
the main event for russell Mania thirty three.
1157
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:19.840
I think it's a terribly difficult lineup to predict because
1158
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.000
who knows We're Nakamura or Sammy's ain will be relative
1159
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:27.000
to Randy Orton and Seth Rollins? And will Roman Reigns
1160
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.480
be a main event top three match guy? Will he
1161
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.280
be a babyface or a heel or will he have
1162
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:33.440
dropped down a couple of notches? And and Vince's kind
1163
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:36.280
of regrouping. Will there be an unexpected breakout star, will
1164
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.320
Finn balor you know, rise to the top, Will aj
1165
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:42.800
Styles gain Daniel Bryant like momentum, Will Kevin Owens be
1166
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.760
frustrating Lee low on the card, or will Vince finally
1167
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:47.920
warm up to him and and go on in with him.
1168
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:49.440
I mean, yeah, there's a lot of questions. Do you
1169
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:54.079
have any other guesses beyond that top match? Bryan, Well, I.
1170
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:55.880
Think Rady Orton will be back on that show, so
1171
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.400
maybe maybe you would get Randy Orton against the under Chacker.
1172
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.320
I don't know. I mean I still think is going
1173
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:01.679
to be on that show and he's going to be
1174
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.000
in an active role. There's a ton of different directions.
1175
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.800
I mean, you would definitely love to see, like, you know,
1176
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.800
you could see Finn Bauer against you know, either Kevin
1177
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.760
Owens or an AJ Styles probably a j that would
1178
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:17.280
be the one. So maybe Finn Dollar against AJ Styles,
1179
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.119
especially if they do some with the Bullet Club one
1180
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:23.760
way or another between this year's Mania and next year's Mania.
1181
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.079
So that would be something I would look forward to.
1182
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:29.320
You know, if you do that, you could do Nakamura
1183
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.559
against Owens. I mean that would be pretty spectacular as well,
1184
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.239
I think, so, I mean that's that That's the great
1185
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.480
thing is there's just so much talent that you can
1186
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.960
go in a ton of different directions. Man, and and
1187
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:42.519
who knows what tag teams are even going to be
1188
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.199
together by then, as well, I know that's that's not
1189
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:52.639
really necessarily but Brian, yeah, I know love Golden True
1190
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.079
ticking on the New Day and Max Shure at WrestleMania, right, So,
1191
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:56.800
oh my god.
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I'm in you know, I mention those matches. I'm intrigued
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00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.159
by establishment versus next generation or you know, whatever terms
1194
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.559
they want to use, you know, Randy Orton against aj
1195
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.400
A Nakamura against Undertaker, Like, I'm more intrigued not with
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00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:14.920
the dream match that r H might have wanted to promote,
1197
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.119
but I'm actually more intrigued at the at the possibility
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00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.480
of seeing matchups that we thought we would never see otherwise,
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00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.320
Samoa Joe against Roman Reigns, you know, guys who are
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00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:31.480
seen as WWB guys as of now against guys who
1201
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.920
get established because they get a chance to take on
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00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.159
w uh the established w W guys. So to me,
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00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.360
that's maybe a more intriguing lineup. Like Finn Balor, I'd
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00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:46.000
rather see him against against somebody like Randy Orton or
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00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:49.280
Seth Rollins who's had rustle many experience than just a
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00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:51.360
dream match against somebody else from the r O h
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00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.960
indie you know scene. So but really there and that
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00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:55.320
makes a.
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00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.159
Lot of sense too, because you're gonna be on the
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00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.639
biggest stage of the year when it comes to WWE.
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00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.480
It's not just uh, you you want to showcase all
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00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.199
that talent, but you want to make sure that you know,
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00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:08.199
people understand, Hey, this is our next generation, you know.
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00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.840
And by putting him in there with other established guys,
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00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:12.800
that makes a lot of sense. By saying, hey, you
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00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:14.320
know what, he's in there with this guy. He went
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00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.800
toe to toe with him, maybe even beat him, and
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00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.760
that means this guy belongs. He's a real player, you know,
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00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:20.599
going forward.
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Yep, Brian, do you have time with a final phone
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00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:24.480
call before we wrap up?
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00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:25.920
Sure?
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00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.360
Okay, cool, let's go to nine. Thanks Roling. Please state
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00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:30.719
your name and where you're calling from.
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00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.559
This is Brian. I'm calling from Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:36.719
Brian, good hear from you. Are you disappointed WrestleMania thre's
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00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:37.400
not coming here?
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00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:38.360
Yes?
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00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.119
In Minnesota? Like that's I was really banking on it.
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00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:43.760
I would have put my uh. I would have bet
1231
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.320
on the table in Vegas. Did you bet you happened?
1232
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.039
Had you already booked your Uber car?
1233
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:49.559
No? I did not bet.
1234
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.559
I didn't do any of those type of things. No, booking,
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00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.480
But I was waiting for a word, and I was
1236
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.000
just gonna rub it in everyone's faces that hey, we
1237
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:57.239
just got a little media finally.
1238
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.519
The good thing for you, Brian is there's plenty of
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00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.679
hotels space available down here in sunny Orlando for you.
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01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.159
And that goes to both of my questions for you.
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01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:09.800
My first one is in regards to the UH why
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01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.400
they chose the city. From what I've read, I think
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01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.320
a large part of it is the attractions throughout the city,
1244
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.760
but also the physical Hall of Fame and some type
1245
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:22.400
of reincarnation of the WWE having a physical location like
1246
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:24.480
I did in New York in the early two thousand
1247
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:25.360
and late nineties.
1248
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:26.880
Yeah, I see, I.
1249
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.920
Still know about that. I mean, that's up in the air.
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01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:31.280
I mean, maybe that's going to happen, and if it does,
1251
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.159
maybe maybe it'll be a Universal Studios like they've talked about.
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01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:36.400
I mean, that seems like the right location, but I
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01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.039
think that's still very much up in the air. I
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01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:41.480
think WW liked it from the standpoint that all the
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01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:43.760
renovations that were done to the Citrus School since two
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01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.599
thousand and eight, when it was nobody would actually use
1257
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.360
this word, but they wanted to a dump and now
1258
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:53.360
is a state of the art a stadium between the
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01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:56.039
brand new Amily Center which is only a few years
1260
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.320
old and is a state of the art arena that
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01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:00.480
the main tenant right now is your Land No Magic,
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01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:02.199
but they have plenty of concercts that come through there.
1263
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:04.679
And remember they're going to be using that venue for
1264
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.559
the NXT show that Friday before WrestleMania, and Orlando will
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01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:10.159
be using it for the Hall of Fame, and they'll
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01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.760
be using it for raw. Plus there is a convention
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01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.639
center that's actually not too far away from everything too.
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01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:17.119
You do have to get in the interstate for that,
1269
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.639
but it's only you know, about fifteen or twenty minutes away.
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01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:23.880
And that it's a huge convention center. To have more
1271
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.239
than a space for access, you could do access wrestle
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01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.360
count at a Star Wars convention probably in that same
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01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.159
building at the same time. So they've got a lot
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01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:34.760
of space. They got everything that they want here. Plus,
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01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.079
like I said before, you've got the attractions for people
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01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:38.679
that want to see that, and you've got the weather
1277
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:41.199
and the beach and everything. So the Saint's got everything
1278
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:44.280
that they want. Plus one of the integral parts is
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01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:45.960
too that this city understands.
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01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:46.880
WWE.
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01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.199
Mayor Buddy Dyer has been involved in this process going
1282
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.960
back to two thousand and eight, and she has a
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01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.000
great relationship with Vince Orange County Mayor Teresa Jacobs. She
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01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.079
has a great relationship with them as well. Plus with
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01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.519
the performance center here, they've worked ten is here with
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01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:04.880
WWE for the last couple of years, so I mean
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01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:07.199
that relationship is there, So it's not like you're talking
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01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:08.239
to somebody new.
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01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.960
Brian anything else. Brian from Minneapolis, No, I agree.
1290
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:13.239
I want to just hear his take on it. I
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01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:14.599
kind of got them made on the show. But with
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01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.079
the whole the signing of Patrick Talty or whatever his
1293
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:19.920
name was for WWE to the new stadium, the US
1294
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.920
Bank Stadium, I thought that was almost a given. That
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01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.239
was the you know, inclination of a new road being laid.
1296
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.239
But hopefully in the next couple of years we'll get
1297
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.239
an opportunity to see it here in Minneapolis.
1298
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:30.039
Yeah.
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01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:34.280
My second question is in regards to the fact that
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01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.519
Brian lives in Orlando and there's a big video game tournament.
1301
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.480
It's for Street Fighter and all those fighting games like
1302
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.920
MoMA Kombat. It's called Community Effort Orlando or CEO. Kenny
1303
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:47.559
Omega and Xavier Woods are big fans of fighting games.
1304
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:49.239
They talk about it and all their stuff. They've shot
1305
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.960
some videos together. Kenny Omega is going to be there.
1306
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:54.559
Do you have what are your thoughts on that, Brian,
1307
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.480
In the merging of video games and professional wrestling becoming
1308
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.119
so much more prevalent with all these little shows is
1309
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.039
that are popping up from indie guys to guys in
1310
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:05.519
the Top Federation. Thanks, guys.
1311
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.320
You know, it's funny and you know this is as
1312
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:11.119
much as anybody way that you know, you go back,
1313
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.320
you know, not too long ago, and when the wrestlers
1314
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:16.000
got done, what were they doing. You know, they'd go
1315
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:18.039
have a drink, they'd go and they party a little bit,
1316
01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:20.639
or they do whatever. Now it's more I'm going to
1317
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:22.280
go check out my social media feed and I'm going
1318
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.320
to play some video games with my buddies. So it's
1319
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:27.760
it's just a change of culture, especially with the younger
1320
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:32.039
generation of stars that are there. And you know, it's
1321
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.000
interesting to see some of these guys. I mean, it's
1322
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.280
funny that he mentioned, you know that that convention with
1323
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.679
the games and that I mean that is a big
1324
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:42.239
deal down here. I didn't realize it until I saw
1325
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.559
that Kenny might be there and Xavier might be there,
1326
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:47.000
so I kind of looked into it and I was like,
1327
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:49.360
holy cow, look at this thing, man, that thing's huge.
1328
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:54.039
And you know, it's just amazing to see just kind
1329
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:56.360
of this crossover when it comes to that, and it's
1330
01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.039
you know, they can bring in people you know, from
1331
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.400
the gaming industry as well and make them wrestling fans.
1332
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.320
There's definitely as a connection there, just like there is
1333
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:05.159
when it comes to people that are in the comic books.
1334
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.840
That is just another avenue to continue to try to
1335
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:08.920
grow more fans.
1336
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.159
Excellent Brian Fritz from Between the Ropes and from The
1337
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:17.000
Orlando Sentinel and from Sporting News and from Fox Sports.
1338
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.079
Thank you for your time today. It was great to
1339
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:21.039
get some in person perspective on one of the bigger
1340
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.039
stories of the week, maybe the biggest story of the week,
1341
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.639
and certainly your Vince McMann interview added to our knowledge
1342
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:30.559
base on Vince's outlook on things. So very cool to
1343
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:32.280
have you on to talk about it, and we got
1344
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:34.119
to have you on again. I have no reason to
1345
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:35.679
suspend you, so maybe we don't have to wait three
1346
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:36.519
four years this time.
1347
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:38.639
Well, I appreciate that now and I'll try to be
1348
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:40.039
on my best behavior going forward.
1349
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.119
Thanks Brian. That is get it. That is Brian Fritz.
1350
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.599
Thanks Brian, and thanks for our callers and emailer and
1351
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.199
sorry we didn't get to everybody, but I really wanted
1352
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.760
to walk through that interview in detail with Brian, but
1353
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:54.639
I think we hit the main topics I wanted to
1354
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:57.039
hit on. So thank you everybody for joining me today.
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01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.559
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program and introduce today's.
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01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:55.599
Guest introduces last one.
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It's time to do so. It really makes me happy
1388
01:06:59.320 --> 01:06:59.880
to live.
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01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:05.000
Ladies and gentlemen, legendary World Championship wrestling superstar and guest booker,
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01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:14.599
the one the only Disco Inferno And they said this
1391
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:16.639
a little retro week just because you're on disco.
1392
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.119
You know, I don't know, I always well, I always
1393
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.320
love beat on this because like the randomness of your
1394
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.639
sound bites at the beginning to the show, always in treasy.
1395
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:34.119
So you know, I mean you must love producin. I mean,
1396
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:35.519
are those you choose all that?
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01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:36.840
Ah?
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01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:37.360
Yes, I do.
1399
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:41.719
Well tremendous elections because the Blues Foots quote is one
1400
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:43.119
of my favorite quotes in movie history.
1401
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:46.760
Well good, I just think that's a good way to
1402
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:47.519
lead off the show.
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01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:48.239
It is.
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01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.199
It is great to have you back on Disco. You've
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01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.840
been You've been very busy as usual. We're coming up
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01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:55.760
on WrestleMania, and I thought, uh, and I thought the
1407
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:59.199
masses could use the insight of Disco Inferno as we
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01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.760
look as look at how WrestleMania is being put together
1409
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:04.320
and a lot of people have other questions for you
1410
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:08.440
about your career and life. And as a matter of fact,
1411
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.960
thanks to shout out from Johnny Fairplayer last week, we
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01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:13.840
just have a ton of questions for you for for
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01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.399
whatever reason. Uh via email, So everybody time in six
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four six.
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PETERW.
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01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.479
Toworts live cast at gmail dot com the other way
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01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:25.159
to get questions. And I've got to ask you first,
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01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.000
have you been following the the run up to WrestleMania
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01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:31.000
and the big and obviously the big highlight of the
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01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.960
show this year, the Undertaker against Stean McMahon Helena South.
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01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:38.039
Yes, I get it. I I've always uh I follow it.
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01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:40.840
I think I told you this in the past of
1423
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:43.960
the way I watched wrestling to day site because one
1424
01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:47.000
of the West coasts, we can you know, the show's
1425
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.880
already airs. Very difficult, very difficult to search social media
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if you want to be well between five and eight
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specific time out of here, if you want to watch
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01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:00.079
roll because you just can't even do it because you
1429
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.600
know it's like spoilers pop up left and right. So
1430
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.520
what I do is is I why I read Jason
1431
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:10.119
Powell's review as the show going on, and if it
1432
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:13.520
reads well, I always the idea I will either DVR
1433
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:15.800
the show or I'll just stay home and and and
1434
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:18.159
watch it, or but usually like a DVR and fast
1435
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.560
forward to the spots I want to see. But uh,
1436
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:22.840
but I'm I'd like to say I used to be
1437
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:25.000
when I was a go, when I used to go.
1438
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:25.439
To the movies.
1439
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:28.720
If Roger Ebert didn't give the movie a thumbs up,
1440
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.800
I wouldn't see it. If Jason Powell doesn't give a
1441
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:34.239
good review, I'm probably not gonna watch the show.
1442
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:39.840
Well, but I want to watch it this week.
1443
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.159
I watched it this week because I just I stayed
1444
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.079
home and I just I actually watched its entirety from
1445
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:44.760
start to finish.
1446
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:45.760
Yeah.
1447
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:47.439
Better better than average episode of Ron.
1448
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:47.920
Definitely.
1449
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.439
Yes, Yeah, I guess it is no I understand that,
1450
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:53.760
but I mean, unfortunately I don't get to do that.
1451
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:56.760
You know, right, yeah, you got you gotta watch it live.
1452
01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:59.079
But let's you shoot tweet a lot during the show
1453
01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.039
on Facebook and stuff everything and that kind of route.
1454
01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:02.560
I don't want to say it ruins it for me,
1455
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.960
but you know, you kind of like you should. You
1456
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.399
should you should post like a big bolt letter spoiler
1457
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.399
alert before you were tweet about raw stuff. I don't know.
1458
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:19.039
Okay, well, you know he's okay. Most people figure out
1459
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:21.680
that I start tweeting raw at like eight eastern, and
1460
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:25.079
you know, get done anyway, that.
1461
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.039
I should hide you, I should hide you from my
1462
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:27.680
timeline journal.
1463
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:31.000
Such that's probably yeah, you probably should do that and
1464
01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.840
wait till you're watching the show and then and then
1465
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.600
bring it back. I think that'll work. Okay, So just
1466
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.279
go What what big projects are you involved in in
1467
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.479
the month of March here in twenty sixteen.
1468
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.439
Well, just my club is very busy for a march man.
1469
01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:48.279
It's just that's big. Yeah. And we were packed last
1470
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.319
weekend because we hosted the mild after party and that
1471
01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:54.000
was a roll of the die because she was she
1472
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:56.920
was a three to one underdog that she won. So
1473
01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:58.800
it was just a mob seed at our at our
1474
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.039
club last week that's a great photo ops and third everything.
1475
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.680
And she's she's to be fit her our marketing director
1476
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:07.960
and her our good friends. Uh. During the summer, we
1477
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.159
have a date. We have a day club at our,
1478
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:12.960
a day club that leg a pool like like the
1479
01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:15.760
day pools. She'll host a couple of times during the
1480
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:17.359
year for that, she'll host.
1481
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:17.840
Uh.
1482
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:20.920
If there's a UFC fight and she's not on the cart,
1483
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:23.159
she'll like probably fifty percent of the time, she'll come
1484
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:24.520
in and host in the room. You know, when we
1485
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:26.479
show the fight, she'll come host in the rooms up.
1486
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.439
She's she's a big fan of the club and it's
1487
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.960
one of her favorite place to go out in Vegas sections.
1488
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.800
Okay, so it's so it's a good possibility. If you're
1489
01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:38.880
there on a UFC weekend where you know where Misha's
1490
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:40.119
not fighting, you might run into her.
1491
01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:42.479
Well, she'll be she'll be appetite. You can always look
1492
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.840
at our websites Sapphire LV, Sapphire Las Vegas dot com
1493
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.279
or satire LV dot com and she'll and it'll post
1494
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:50.520
on when she's gonna be here. She'll here, but between
1495
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:52.520
now and her next fight, she'll do three or four.
1496
01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:53.640
Peerance is just the club for sure.
1497
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.119
Okay, that sounds great. We are going to dive right
1498
01:11:58.159 --> 01:11:59.880
in with calls now for those of you who are
1499
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.720
listening to the first time, and I guess we always
1500
01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.800
have some uh. This is uh the we. You can
1501
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:06.960
keep things moving. You can ask up to three questions.
1502
01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.560
You can make up the three comments. You can combine
1503
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.800
them like one question and two comments. But at the
1504
01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:15.520
end of the day, step and Disco knows how to
1505
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.479
keep this PG. But for the rest of you, when.
1506
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:19.399
You follow waiting for our next caller. We'd like to
1507
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:22.880
remind you folks calling in keep your questions when in
1508
01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:24.000
the boundaries A good day.
1509
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:28.000
Yeah, it's been a rough month. Disco. Bill Barrons swore
1510
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:31.039
last week on the show, and James had edited out Bill.
1511
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:34.640
Wow, Yes, that's that's not news.
1512
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.479
It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. All right, we're going to
1513
01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:39.079
kick We're going to get this going. We're going to
1514
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:41.640
kick things off in the seven two seven area code
1515
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:44.159
seven to seven. Please state your name in town. You're
1516
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:45.560
on the last cast with this one.
1517
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.319
For Hey, guys, it's Clarence. I'm calling from Tampa, Florida.
1518
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:50.960
How are you doing, Clarence.
1519
01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:54.479
I'm hanging in there, partner, I'm hanging in there. Good
1520
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.479
to talk to the US champ. Good to talk to
1521
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:57.000
the champ.
1522
01:12:57.880 --> 01:12:59.920
Oh, was never the US Champ, was the TV champ.
1523
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:00.439
Right away.
1524
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.039
It's the same thing. I always thought Disco was a
1525
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.880
mark for his own gimmick. Guys, But let's dive into this.
1526
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:09.680
I was in Vegas a few years back and I
1527
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.399
was in this club and Disco is at the door,
1528
01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:15.720
honest to god, true story. The only thing that shocked
1529
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:18.520
me is I was at a car dealership, probably about
1530
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.800
five years ago, and the genius tried to sell me
1531
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:24.520
an old pickup truck. But guys, this was even more shocking.
1532
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:26.039
We're in the strip club. He comes up and I
1533
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.159
know this guy from somewhere, and you know when you
1534
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:31.479
see somebody and you know him, And I said, you're
1535
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:33.840
Disco Inferno. I'm sure he gets that all the time
1536
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:35.439
in the club. I'm not sure if you guys mentioned
1537
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:36.800
the club or if I'm allowed to give it out,
1538
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:41.319
but I and it was him. Nicest guy in the world.
1539
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:43.800
I mean, I've seen he's being in Tampa. These wrestlers
1540
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:47.640
are on every street corner, the Bushwhackers. They valeyed my
1541
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.279
car probably about three weeks ago at a restaurant. But
1542
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:52.239
you see these guys all over in Tampa. But out
1543
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.479
in Vegas there he was. He takes us over to
1544
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:56.920
our seats. He was real nice, obviously you know where
1545
01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:58.520
he's used to getting that. We didn't want to put
1546
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:00.600
it out there too much. And I see he says,
1547
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.840
do you see anything in here you like? And that
1548
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:04.880
night there was some NFL guys in there, some big
1549
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:07.880
time ballplayers, and they were taking the majority of the girls.
1550
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.239
And I said, Disco, I'm not seeing anything. There's nothing
1551
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:13.680
here my caliber. So we brought over a book and
1552
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.199
it was full of hairless twink seventeen year old Chinese boys,
1553
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:18.640
and he says, would you like me to order you
1554
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:21.279
one of these? Okay, I can get you.
1555
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.199
You know, we can get you. You know you. Thank
1556
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:25.520
you for.
1557
01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:28.000
That was a great setup.
1558
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:28.319
Thank you.
1559
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:32.000
It wasn't set up with phenomenos.
1560
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:40.640
He well, I was killing well when I talked about
1561
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:42.840
what a nice guy you are, I have the flag runner.
1562
01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:44.239
But other than that, I got to give.
1563
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:46.039
The guy credit. That was a good rip. That was
1564
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:47.319
a good credit.
1565
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.520
Okay, Well there you go. All right. So hey, why
1566
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:53.399
don't we why don't we dive into some nice email
1567
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:57.239
questions here? Let's see what we have. Uh okay, uh,
1568
01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:00.520
this one is from you can call it people, just
1569
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:04.119
just be civilized. Okay, this one is from Tom.
1570
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:04.640
Tom.
1571
01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:07.720
I don't have. I don't have where he's from, he says.
1572
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:09.880
Last month, he posted a picture with see him Punk's
1573
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:11.800
opponent Mickey gall How did you meet him?
1574
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.760
Uh? He came in the club after the fight, and
1575
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.199
it was funny because like, uh, I was like, I was,
1576
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:22.439
I was tweeting friends. I was like because I didn't. Uh,
1577
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:25.359
I don't think we showed that that. Maybe we showed
1578
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:28.359
that show with the UFC. What well, what card was that?
1579
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:29.840
By the way, do you remember what you would with
1580
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:30.800
the main event on that one?
1581
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:32.119
Was? Now?
1582
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:38.640
Unfortunately, unfortunately I remember things like, you know, remember the way.
1583
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.920
He comes in the club and he's a young kid
1584
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.039
from Jersey. Uh, and he basically he's win a group
1585
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:49.279
of like his It looked like high school friends, like girls, guys.
1586
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:51.880
They look very young, very young craft. They were all like,
1587
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.560
you know, barely over twenty one. And he just you know,
1588
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:57.920
came by and I and uh, I didn't know who
1589
01:15:57.920 --> 01:15:59.439
he was. I didn't see the fight, and I say,
1590
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:01.560
this is the guy pup a punk here? And I go, oh, real,
1591
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:03.319
let me go met the guy. So I brought him in.
1592
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:06.000
Nice guy, took a pic of him and stuff and
1593
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:08.239
everything and a just just a nice kid. And I
1594
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:09.920
was like, here's the thing I was. I was very
1595
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:14.399
surprised how uh how small he was. Okay, because I
1596
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:16.800
know I wrestled with Punk before, and I get punks
1597
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:18.800
obviously cutting weight, you know, in the UFC. But I
1598
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.279
was like, wow, I'm like I'll saying, like Punk's a
1599
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:23.960
lot bigger than this guy. I go, he's gonna be fighting,
1600
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:26.960
but like maybe with a weight cut, Like there's a difference.
1601
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.239
But the kid waghed he was fighting at one eighty five.
1602
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.159
But he didn't look a bit like one eighty five
1603
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.279
at all. I mean maybe you know, I don't know,
1604
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:39.039
but that's but from being around Punk and knowing Punk, Uh,
1605
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:42.600
Punk seemed a lot bigger than him from from the
1606
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:44.760
last time I saw Punk. So but it became a
1607
01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:45.520
super nice kid.
1608
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.760
Okay, that's a good thing. You have a good story,
1609
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:52.279
all right, Dallas. Let's take one from a lot of
1610
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:55.920
the Twitter. Okay, that was way too loud. Uh. The
1611
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.880
a Ryan Luseman has a question, says Disco, what type
1612
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.199
of tips do you normally leave when you're out of
1613
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:05.319
the restaurant? Is it fifteen to twenty percent more or less?
1614
01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:08.239
Always twenty and twenty five for good service? And if
1615
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:11.079
it's if the service is terrible, like if the service
1616
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:13.960
is just a strocious like painfully bad, Well, if I
1617
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.279
have to ask for water three times and before they
1618
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.039
bring it to the table, I'll leave ten percent.
1619
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:20.479
Yeah, we'll see. I mean you think peop will not.
1620
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:23.079
And I leave and I leave twenty five percent if
1621
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:23.640
it's good.
1622
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:27.439
Right, Okay, people need to know these things. All right,
1623
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:30.079
Let's let's get back to more. Let's get back to
1624
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.600
the email. Let's say, yeah, what are you okay, what
1625
01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:36.239
are your thoughts on TNA seeking out investors?
1626
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:41.000
It sounds like they need them. Huh yeah, I mean they.
1627
01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:47.199
Need money, right, well, it's twenty sixteen. Pretty much. We
1628
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:49.880
all need money, you know, I mean, what.
1629
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:52.800
Are you what? Everybody's seeking investors these days. I mean
1630
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:56.479
even mail that are the billionaires are seeking investors. So
1631
01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:58.479
let's you know, I mean to me, that's really not
1632
01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:00.640
that not that much of a big deal. I bet
1633
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:02.600
you will. And you also not forget the just Man
1634
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.520
the would they weren't published, so that's true of those
1635
01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:07.840
general views looking for they were looking for professors too,
1636
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.800
so you know, so no big deal. Uh, but I
1637
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:13.359
know that they doesn't really have a lot of money
1638
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:14.920
right now.
1639
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:18.439
Yeah, I mean they're obviously they were getting paid to
1640
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:22.239
produce TV shows in America and now they're not so much.
1641
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:24.640
Have you Have you even watched the Impact in the
1642
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:26.399
past couple of months, some.
1643
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:28.479
Of it when I can catch it sometimes, you know,
1644
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:32.159
if I'm home, it's on Uh, but I just don't
1645
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.000
you know this thing, like like, uh, it's on Pop TV.
1646
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:40.279
So I just never ever watched Top TV unless you know,
1647
01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:42.720
you just don't catch that channel. So like maybe me,
1648
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:47.039
like a lot of other people, I'll be I'll happy
1649
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:49.359
to be home. I'll happen to be any Internet and
1650
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:52.760
I'll see the tweets. Hey impact on Top is on there?
1651
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:54.560
Oh okay, I forgot it was. Let me put it on,
1652
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:56.920
you know, so so I'll watch it. But like as
1653
01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:58.479
a regular creature, hadn't watching the show?
1654
01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:04.159
Absolutely not, Okay, admit it. You love Nick Barbatty when
1655
01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:06.319
he co hosts with me on the Wadekeller Post Shows. Well,
1656
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:08.159
now you can listen to him every week on The
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01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.560
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01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:12.000
you more.
1659
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:14.479
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01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:16.720
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01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:19.600
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1662
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torch vi ip.
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But have you seen anything that you I was one
1674
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:53.640
more like, have you seen anything you like? Dislike? You know?
1675
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:55.039
I mean, it's pretty much.
1676
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.279
I'll tell you, I'll tell you this, I'll tell you this. Okay.
1677
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:03.239
I am so impressed, okay with the work of Bobby Route.
1678
01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.640
I think, right right now, I don't think there's a
1679
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:10.800
better I don't think there's a better worker in professional
1680
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.239
rest of today than Bobby Route. Talk to bout him.
1681
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.119
I mean, there's no holes in his work. He looks legit,
1682
01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:19.880
he looks like a tough guy. He throws good punches,
1683
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:22.920
thurt beats. He is just uh, I just I'm just
1684
01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:25.279
super impressed when I watch him wrestle. I mean, I'm like, Wow,
1685
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:28.119
this guy's he just seems to me and I'm a
1686
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:29.840
very critical lie you know, because I helped teach it
1687
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:33.239
feel like I teach a resting school here. Just I'm like, well,
1688
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.279
I tell these guys, I tell the kid to go
1689
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:38.039
put what watch Bobby Rood's worth these days because he's phenomenal.
1690
01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:41.560
I was like, wow, he really improved, Oh just so much.
1691
01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:45.119
I mean my opinion, I personally think that he is
1692
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:46.640
the best worker of the business right now.
1693
01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:51.039
Yeah. Well, unfortunately, I mean he's not. Unfortunately, he's not
1694
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:53.079
gonna get as much credit as as you'd like to think,
1695
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.239
especially when you hit the year round the ward you
1696
01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:59.039
know people, but from people not watching DNA, right exactly.
1697
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:01.119
But but if you just watch his work, well it's
1698
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.680
really like like you watch like like here's the way
1699
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:07.119
I judge guys these days. And this is because this
1700
01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:09.119
is one thing that I do and I teach my class.
1701
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:12.119
It's very specific. Okay, this it's called the Future Stars
1702
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:16.000
are Wrestling JEF sw Vegas. They have a school myself
1703
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:22.239
Manic you know, TJ. Perkins, Kenny Kings, Alcatraz and like
1704
01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:24.239
Jack Danili and Mervi Marcell some of the teachers there.
1705
01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:27.159
I teach a specific classroom. When day's work at four o'clock,
1706
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.640
I saw all I teach is kicking, punching, and selling,
1707
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.920
because when I watch guys these days, I'm judging guys
1708
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:39.479
by how well they how good of a punch they throw,
1709
01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:42.000
and how good of like, but how good their kicks
1710
01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:45.800
like because that that there's so many holes in that,
1711
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:48.119
and people's work these days with that were those little
1712
01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:50.760
kishils are such a lost art that if a guy
1713
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:53.760
flows a really good punch, he really sticks out on
1714
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:55.720
the show, like he looks tougher than the other guys,
1715
01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:58.079
you know, like like guys just so bad, like the
1716
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.399
high flyers. You know, you do all the stuff, but
1717
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:03.359
if you throw a week looking punch, it's hard to
1718
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:06.000
hide from the fans now, like the fans can see that,
1719
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.279
you know. But if you still a good one, well
1720
01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:09.920
there's still you know you how old are you?
1721
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:12.800
That very old?
1722
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:13.079
Uh?
1723
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:13.640
Forty five?
1724
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:16.960
Okay, so I'm forty eight. But we grew up watching
1725
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:21.279
you know, so if we watched guys, we're wrestling matches
1726
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:23.199
a lot of times with two guys out there punching
1727
01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:25.880
and kicking and fight each other. And these were main
1728
01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:28.079
events that they drew a lot of money. You don't
1729
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:31.159
see that anymore. So I'm still a fan of that,
1730
01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:33.760
like that, like that old school skilled up. Sure maybe
1731
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:35.079
you probably are too, I don't know if you are,
1732
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:36.840
if you like the new stuff, but like but a
1733
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:39.840
good old fashioned you know, Jerry Lawler, Bills an E
1734
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:42.960
you know, fight for the mint sound coliseeam type match.
1735
01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:45.840
I still like that. You know, it's you meet up,
1736
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:49.079
let's sit so so. But then that's Bobby Roods were
1737
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:51.319
you know, just he just looks legit out there. I'm
1738
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:52.319
like very impressed.
1739
01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:55.159
Well, yeah, I mean that's that's the thing, and that's
1740
01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:57.520
something we talked about, you know, kind of off and
1741
01:22:57.560 --> 01:22:59.479
on on this show. Yeah, if you've got two guys
1742
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:01.000
who are really pissed off at each other and they're
1743
01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:02.880
gonna fight, yeah, they don't walk in the ring. And
1744
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:04.479
then you don't rock in the ring with somebody you're
1745
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.520
really pissed off at the whipp'men of the ropes and go.
1746
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.399
For a runa you know, or or or when it's time.
1747
01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:11.000
But when they're beating you down, when it's time for
1748
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:15.039
you're comeback through legal forearms, keep your's like you're gonna
1749
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.279
do like right, you're gonna you're gonna fight. Yeah, Like
1750
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:19.880
just just a lot of these guys these days, these
1751
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.880
these kids are in their midch twenties that work mitch twenties,
1752
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.039
low thirty. They didn't go what with what we would.
1753
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:27.760
You'll watching what we used to watch, and it's like
1754
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:30.279
their style doesn't really emulate that. And I'm like, and
1755
01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:32.800
I teach my guys. I'm like, bro, we're gonna learn
1756
01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:35.840
this old school style because if you will stick out
1757
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.279
of the show because so many people don't do this, well,
1758
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:40.840
I go, you'll look like a better worker than other people,
1759
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:44.199
just because you can do this effectively. And that that's
1760
01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.359
that's why I think the punching and kicking and making
1761
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:47.840
it look like you can hurt a guy beat a
1762
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:49.119
guy up is so so important.
1763
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:51.840
Yeah, and if you can sell other guys that't want
1764
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:52.520
to work with him.
1765
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:55.920
Well absolutely you're selling. The selling the simple stuff is
1766
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:59.560
so much easier than then. Well, like I said, if
1767
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:01.199
on my been on this rant these days, you know
1768
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:04.720
when I did these podcasts stuff, I tweet that basically
1769
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.479
there's a there's a lack of common sense in the
1770
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:10.199
work these days, you know, like like this working is
1771
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:12.680
supposed to be you know, when when we grew up
1772
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.760
watching lestling and then you grew up watching wrestling. The
1773
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:19.960
guys in the business were tough guys before they got
1774
01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.399
into wrestling, and they came into wrestling and they talked
1775
01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:24.840
to kind of work okay, but they were legit tough
1776
01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.840
guys to start off with. It's like these days the
1777
01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.800
wrestlers are not really tough guys, okay, they're they're kind
1778
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:32.720
of like, you know, they're acrobats or high flyers there,
1779
01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:35.399
and like, I like, for a zip of my class,
1780
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:37.000
I'm like, I'm trying to teach a kid out of punch,
1781
01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:38.880
Like what was I say, he's been to fight. He's like,
1782
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:41.159
I've never been to fight. I'm like, oh my god,
1783
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:43.640
you know, I got a drop. Well, but there's a
1784
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.399
lot of people like that in the business these days.
1785
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:47.199
There's a lot of people, a lot of kids like that,
1786
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:51.840
you know. So so basically you know when they're when
1787
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:53.920
they're laying out these matches now because like there's such
1788
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:58.039
an emphasis on acrobatics, you know, and like forearms, you know,
1789
01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:02.239
the throwing forms. But there's so much injury risk when
1790
01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:05.880
you're doing acrobatics, when you're doing high flying, when you're four,
1791
01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:08.039
when you're blok when you're hitting guys in the head
1792
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:10.560
constantly but trying to work it. I just watched that
1793
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:13.640
the other day, the two kicks from NXT. The Japanese girl,
1794
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.920
you know, she's this. These are green workers, you know,
1795
01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.520
they're not like seasoned veterans, and she's doing the kicks
1796
01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:22.319
to the head, and she kicked the girl in the
1797
01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:24.439
head and knocked her shilly. Now the girl's gotta concussiuhit
1798
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:26.760
out for a while, you know. So I'm like, I'm like, damn,
1799
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:29.680
how much better would have been to teach a good
1800
01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:32.359
working punch, or you're not gonna concuss the other girl,
1801
01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:34.359
you know, instead of look realistic if the girl can
1802
01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:37.359
tell it, you know, it's like we're teaching well, but
1803
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.920
there's no work anymore these days. It's too real. And
1804
01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.760
then the realness is almost fake because it's stuff that
1805
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.199
you don't even really do in a fight, you know.
1806
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:49.439
So it's like, I don't know, it's just that that's
1807
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:51.600
a grant the day that I wish we would invigorate
1808
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:54.439
more old school skills into the work, as opposed to
1809
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.039
keep raising the bar with all the high flying aquabatics.
1810
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.640
We grew up in the wild West Disco we're actually
1811
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.760
head fights in the in the school yard and stuff.
1812
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:06.319
All right, Uh, the adventure, the adventure continues. We're gonna
1813
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.880
go to the We're gonna go to the telephone to
1814
01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:10.920
the seven seven three area code seven seven three, Please
1815
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:17.119
state your name in town Johnny Live cast with Discoing Furnis.
1816
01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:18.920
Boys from Chicago. How you doing this.
1817
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:20.880
Going on?
1818
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:23.960
I couldn't before I get to my question, I couldn't
1819
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:26.000
help but laugh because I was thinking, Well, we was
1820
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:29.680
growing up watching wrestle. We fake punched and kick better
1821
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:31.880
than they do it to ring now you know how
1822
01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:34.960
we imitated the chops and this lasts on each other.
1823
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.720
We get what we need fake faking.
1824
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.479
Me and my friends we were seventeen years old or
1825
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.960
sixteen years old. Shake wrestling in the front yard are
1826
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:46.560
punches and kicks and better than the guys in the
1827
01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:50.960
show today. Yes, Starry laughing, it probably wasn't on the water,
1828
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:54.399
but it ships. It's true. It's true. They make it
1829
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:58.359
like bro guys don't even practice that stuff, and it's
1830
01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:00.840
like a very important skill because a lot of guys
1831
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:03.600
that made a lot of money did that very well.
1832
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.520
You know, it's just give me, I don't know because
1833
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:07.399
we'll keep up with question.
1834
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:08.960
Yeah, go on.
1835
01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:12.359
My first question is what do you think about Dean
1836
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:17.279
ambro and say McMahon, whatever punches of the format things
1837
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:19.159
was trying to use with their fists, I'll just say
1838
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:25.279
it like that, whatever format that was using with their fists, wells.
1839
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:28.319
Dean Amblers is a good worker. But like I said,
1840
01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:31.359
he could, he could, he could, he could use my
1841
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:33.199
class I teach on one on Wednesday from four to
1842
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:35.079
six and give me, give me, just give me thirty
1843
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:36.840
minutes with the guy. I teach him a how to
1844
01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:38.680
full a better punch, and he'll look more, He'll look
1845
01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:41.239
tougher because with his gimmick, you need to look tougher,
1846
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:44.359
you know, like, uh, your guys out there getting beat up,
1847
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:46.119
so when it's times your comeback, you need to look
1848
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:48.880
like you need to fight, you know. So uh and
1849
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:51.840
Shane th everybody's down on Shane. But let me tell
1850
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:53.920
you something. His punches look terrible. He's done. He's a
1851
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:59.560
weird character. But let's not forget that given the opportunities,
1852
01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:01.560
actually is the type of match he's got. He's got
1853
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:03.479
to tell this out. Don't forget the him and kerrentan
1854
01:28:03.479 --> 01:28:05.039
angle like King of the ring knows on the best
1855
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:08.079
matches of the year. It was just an entertaining stunt
1856
01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:08.920
spectacle broke.
1857
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.800
Go go back and watch that match, and yeah, yeah,
1858
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:12.920
the damn near killed each other.
1859
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:15.680
I mean yeah, I mean but but but you know
1860
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.560
you're gonna get you know, you're gonna get your money's
1861
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:21.640
worse with Shane. You may not like the idea of like, well,
1862
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:25.399
it's not believable, but as it's been, when that match
1863
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:28.600
starts and the bell rings to the time that it's done,
1864
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:31.359
you're gonna get with With the typical wrestling fan watse
1865
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.800
these days, you're gonna get to this is awesome. Chance
1866
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:36.520
you're gonna get them crazy bumps you're gonna get. Doesn't
1867
01:28:36.560 --> 01:28:39.199
look like they' like Shane got killed. It's just gonna
1868
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:41.800
like they're gonna give the fans their money's worth on that.
1869
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:45.600
So I'm not I'm looking forward to because Shane's older now,
1870
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:47.840
he's not like young. He's got the great hair, So
1871
01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:50.159
I'm interesting to see how high, how high he's gonna
1872
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:52.000
raise the bar with this performance.
1873
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.439
Well, you know, I did grow watching you on TV
1874
01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:00.680
and and Shane, so I already know talking about I
1875
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:02.840
just wanted to present that because he was talking about
1876
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:06.600
punches and teaching the new you know, the new guys,
1877
01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:10.119
the class of you know, selling and all the punches.
1878
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:15.039
Now getting on to the question of what's going on now,
1879
01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:23.319
my first comment is I'm thinking that maybe Linda. Everybody's
1880
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.279
thinking Linda's gonna play a part in this thing with
1881
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:28.359
this match. I'm feeling that if they've been going to
1882
01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:31.399
the well on stuff they've done before, I'm thinking maybe
1883
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:33.920
Lenda McMahon might throw at a towel for Shane or
1884
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:36.960
something because he's getting pounded. So I'm just thinking maybe
1885
01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:41.239
about ten guys gonna come out like they're rumbo and
1886
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:44.880
you know, and and kill Undertaker or something. I'm just thinking,
1887
01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:47.319
I'm just thinking what retrol if if this is a
1888
01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:51.359
retro panel, what what from they're gonna use.
1889
01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:58.359
I don't like ruining it for people, but this is
1890
01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:02.520
what Russell is today is spoiling and internet. It's hard,
1891
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:04.159
it's hard to go a plan for the to watch
1892
01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:07.359
so because there's so many spoilers and creative plans posted
1893
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:10.439
on the Internet and everything. But like this is my prediction. Uh,
1894
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where is kurd Angles done with T and A right?
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It's his deal a lot before WrestleMania starts. Bro Kurd
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Angle's gonna do something that match that. That's my prediction.
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I mean, like if he's done with TNA and Wrestlemandi
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is right there, I could you know, I think that
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that's the pop. That's a good surprise spot. That's you know,
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I mean, I'm that's my prediction.
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Well, Kurt Angle doesn't down that weekend, but everybody's in
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town that weekend, so yeah, that's yeah, that's something that
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I would something to.
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Do with it, you know.
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Yeah, Okay, okay, My my last My last thing is
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UFC had a couple of real nice upset they've been
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trying to plan to, you know, their magic going into
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two hundred. You know, Ronda Rossie when she lost and
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the Holly Holly Holmes lost. So now they got more
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opportunities because now they got three a three way of
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making a match for two hundred or whatever they're trying
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to go to with the three girls, because you know,
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now you've got a variety of women that could you know,
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headline as a cold main event or something like that.
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My question is, wouldn't it? Would you do you think
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that we're gonna get something with Roadblock, possibly maybe some
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choker that you know, finally will get something that's you know,
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exciting that you know it's not predictable, you know, something
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from Roadblock in the sense of what's happened with UFC.
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No, that's because there's why. There's why because in the
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past three or four years, had they given any ink
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lead or any type of any any clue that they
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would do something like that. I mean, bro, they've they've
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been They're shocking by the book. It's like if you're
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if you're if you're teen years old and you've watched
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wrestling for two years, you could wipe their show. It's
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very simplistic. It's this guy wrestles this either there's there's
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no poison turns, there's no angles, there's really no character,
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there's no characters. They're all just wrestlers. None of happening really,
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you know, Dean Amble is supposed to be like crazy
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and stuff like. Other than that, these guys are all
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this guys fighting for for chances to fight for the title.
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And it's you know, so if you think they're going
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to like rewrite the WrestleMania Maine event plans a couple
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of weeks out. No, it's gonna be this the typical
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Dean Ambrose fought. You know. It's like when they were
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pushing Cizarro. You know, Cinzaro never won, but he would
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lose in twenty minutes and they would try to sell
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it like, well he gave it Azar, like he almost
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beat the guy. You know. It's just like that. That's
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to me, that's what they're gonna do in this match
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with with Ambrose.
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More disappointment, just more disappointing.
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Me. Want more of the same stuff that they've been doing,
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you know.
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Or they could do I mean, the best case scenario,
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bor Us, And for what you're thinking is they could
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do something like they did with Nick Foley back in
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the day. They can have Ambrose win it on a
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Saturday night and then turn around and lose it on
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a Monday night. That's not all you're gonna get because
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there's no there's no way that. I mean, this is
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the biggest, this is the biggest. You know, this is
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gonna have the biggest attendance figure of all time. There's
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no way Triple H is not gonna be in the
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main event of WrestleMania. It's just not gonna happen. Yeah,
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absolutely right now, there's no way Roman. There's no way
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they take Roman Reins out because they've got Roman Reigns
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figured to be their big star for the next couple
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of years.
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So right, wow, yeah and plus plus two you would
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would you would? You just said that? You maybe? Right?
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Is they you know, they beat them on Sunday to
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draw the number on Monday because the ratings are well
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everything like two fives and two six to go into WrestleMania.
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I've never seen a number that low, you know, and
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that that's like, that's that's like, well, nobody, like there's
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so little people watching right now. It's like wow, I'm like,
1969
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you know, it's like me, it's like, you know, I
1970
01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:52.159
try to watch, but it's like there's not much CTV.
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01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:54.840
You know, you like you could just read the show
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01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:56.680
and get the same thing out of it because like nothing,
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01:33:57.279 --> 01:33:58.680
you know, you don't really get the film that you
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really missed anything, you know. So I don't know, man,
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it's just this stuff and I'd like to see what
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they get out of it.
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So okay, it'll be it'll be it'll be interesting to watch.
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Plus if ambroses, Plus if they move ambros into the
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main event, you know who's gonna fight brock Lesner. I mean,
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because remember one time they had actually set that up,
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you know, to make it. I mean they actually set
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01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:20.840
it up and had people interested in it.
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Uh. Yeah, you can't rewrite all that. I meant the
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marketing you have to change. I mean, the machine is
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01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:28.920
already already going, you know.
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So I don't know whether they why what they did
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make the wire to a j shirt and it only
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lasted what mat.
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Yeah, that's but that was a shirt that was a
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limited limited.
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Shirt dot conference out T shirts like and stuff, and
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that's that's big deal, you know.
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I guess they want to be optimistic and something.
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Maybe I thought I thought.
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When you wanted to be optimistic for us, she wasn't
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watching their Japan or something. I didn't know that.
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I mean I had to you know.
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You know what I do is, you know, I watched
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the Ross so I can, you know, participate with you guys.
2000
01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:16.159
But I really enjoyed it. Pand and just to see
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how they elevated Kenny Omega when they you know, got
2002
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when not you know, all the guys that's come to
2003
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.680
w they automatically gave you know, Kenny Omega the next
2004
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:28.159
spot up. And I mean it's just the way they
2005
01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:31.199
transition people into the next fight. You know, it was
2006
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:34.920
just it was just beautiful on you just you turn
2007
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:38.239
it on, you crack your beer, you enjoy it, you know,
2008
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.920
and you know it's just I wish it was over
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01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.680
here more so we could talk. You know, we could
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01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:45.840
talk more about this, you know, because I go to
2011
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:49.119
work and you know, they talk about UFC and basketball,
2012
01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:52.479
but nobody talks about wrestling anymore like back in the day.
2013
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That's that's the truth. All right, Boris, Thanks God, I'm
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not happy. Notes. We will we will talk you week.
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Boss is an optimist here. Okay, there we go. Boris
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drops off and that opens up the line for you.
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PW Torchlivecast at gmail dot com. Uh, we've got to
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sell a bunch of stuff and we'll come back. There's
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people waiting on hold, and there's a lot of emails
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for Disco more with the Disco and perno after this
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time out?
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Let's see what it is. What our official poll which
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match we're hon't looking forward to on Saturday. We have
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let's see where we are here ahead with fifty percent
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of the vote. Triple H versus Dean Ambrose, thirty three
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forget that. Coming up tomorrow, Wade Keller will be bringing
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you an interview. I don't know who he's interviewing. I
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should really go and look that up before I start
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the show. Next week on the show, sadly Disco will
2079
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not be here, but we do have a guest for
2080
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the first time never on the Wednesday live cast. Our
2081
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good friend Tommy Dreamer will be coming by and I'm
2082
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sure Tommy will uh, Tommy will have a lot to
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talk about. Let me see here, don't I'm trying to
2084
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see who Wade's here. We go trying to see who
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Wade's guest is for tomorrow, although he tends to surprise
2086
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us and he comes up with some He comes up
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with some amazing guests. In fact, go check the archives.
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Jim Ross, Ethan Carter, the Third, Mick Foley, lots of
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lots of stuff here. Okay, here we go. Let's say
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that Brian Fritz is going to be the guest tomorrow.
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among other things. So, and Brian's been on this show before.
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Check that out. Okay, let's get back to taking calls
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and emails for our man, the Disco Inferno six six.
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Holy crap, there's I'm sorry, I'm just looking at these
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lines and I don't know how we're gonna gonna get
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to all of these. Oh, here we go? Is this
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lets say VIP number. Yeah, there's a guy saying, Okay,
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I got an email from a guy saying he's a
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VIP number looking to call in, except that the phone
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number he gives isn't one that's on hold.
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So I don't know.
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I'm not gonna worry about it. Let's go to the
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eight six to two area code and kick things off.
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Eight six two please state your name in town. You're
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on the webcast with.
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Kind from North New Jersey.
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How's it going, Colin?
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Going well?
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Pat good?
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Uh?
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What questions do you have for our guests the discoing
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for now?
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Okay, it's my first question for you, Gwinn if you were,
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if you were going to be one of the potential
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new investors in t LA, what would some of your requirements?
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Uh, put more money into the visual product make it
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look like not so Uh what do I want to
2119
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call it? Not so amateurist compared to the temp you
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gotta you gotta you gotta make the show look like
2121
01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:25.199
a uh you know, I like the old like the
2122
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old Universal studio isn't bad, But right now it looks like, uh,
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you know, just just isn't you know what it looks
2124
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like me, it's it's just it's got just they don't
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you didn't need money production the work they're supposed to.
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They're supposed to be back taping at Universal starting next Wednesday.
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This guy next Tuesday.
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Actually, what is it that looks like the old winners
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the same?
2130
01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:52.079
I don't even know if they've got the same studio
2131
01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:54.119
and they haven't been there on.
2132
01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:57.920
A last Yeah, well, the content, that's fine, it's just
2133
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:01.800
the production quality just needs help. Just just a second,
2134
01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:08.439
need to look more out more up the part. That's
2135
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:08.880
my answer.
2136
01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:20.239
Okay, okay, Second question, did did did did b w
2137
01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:29.199
W we make the decision to open their new Hall
2138
01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:38.640
of Fame and potential restaurant conflict and or rather on
2139
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:50.279
the Universal Studio property next year to further place the
2140
01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:52.960
nail in TNA.
2141
01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:58.640
Often, I don't think they could care less about They
2142
01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:01.319
couldn't care less about TNA. T and A is not competition.
2143
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:04.600
So they're only doing two hundred thousand viewers, So I
2144
01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:07.159
don't I don't see why. You know, to me, that's
2145
01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:11.119
it's an insignificant number to their products. You know they're doing.
2146
01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:13.800
They're still doing three million something people right watching the
2147
01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:14.399
show each week?
2148
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:15.680
Yeah they are.
2149
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:19.800
Yeah, yeah, So if you're talking about less than ten
2150
01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:21.600
percent of their audience is watching T and A, I
2151
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:24.319
don't think that that's insignificant. I just think universe. If
2152
01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:27.560
you've ever been to Universal Studios, it's it's a very
2153
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:31.159
you know, it's a high traffic area for tourism and stuff.
2154
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:34.079
It's it's a you know, it's a place, it's a
2155
01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:35.960
place you would put you would put your Hall of
2156
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:37.800
fame if you want people to see it. A lot
2157
01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:39.640
of people see that that's that's where you would put it,
2158
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:42.359
you know, like in the Universal Studios or Disney somewhere,
2159
01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.039
so you know that that's that's a perfect location. Because
2160
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:46.520
I don't think it's got nothing to do with TNA.
2161
01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:54.640
I didn't think so wee, But I just through itout
2162
01:43:54.840 --> 01:44:02.159
there and my am my final question, who would you
2163
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:13.239
like to be the next well well known wrestler through and.
2164
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:22.279
Who should be the next guy? Yeah, there's a kid
2165
01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:25.720
did they named Kevin Cross here that works in Vegas
2166
01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:27.640
and I helped trade. But I wouldn't put him on
2167
01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:29.399
the NXT. I put him on the main roster when
2168
01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:32.039
he's ready. I wouldn't send him the NXT. You got
2169
01:44:32.119 --> 01:44:36.079
an n XT. You're you're just you're learning, you know,
2170
01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:39.319
did this kid needs to learn how to work top
2171
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:42.840
guy style, not the NXC style. The NXC style is
2172
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:45.640
just an extension of uh, the the other Ring of
2173
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:49.159
Honor Indy type work basically took both of those guys anyway.
2174
01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:51.760
It's just you know, it's high flying. I mean, like
2175
01:44:52.279 --> 01:44:54.119
you know, did this kid is the type of kid
2176
01:44:54.159 --> 01:44:56.600
that can go in there and you know he's gotta
2177
01:44:56.600 --> 01:44:59.359
go wrestle Brock some day, you know, So that that's uh,
2178
01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:02.640
just he's he's great. Talk for him. He just works
2179
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:06.479
getting better. But it's just not it's not like top
2180
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:08.760
guys level there yet, but he's getting there and outrust
2181
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:10.079
You're gonna hear about the skid. But I would not.
2182
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:13.800
I wouldn't send anybody the NXT. I apologize, like if
2183
01:45:13.800 --> 01:45:15.800
you guys are fans of that, but I watched that
2184
01:45:15.920 --> 01:45:19.000
show and I've watched some of it, and just the
2185
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:21.560
guys that know how to work that. You know that
2186
01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:23.640
there are some good guys in the show, but there's
2187
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:26.800
so many green guys that that are working on that
2188
01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:29.640
show that everybody just gives a pass to. And I'm like, wow,
2189
01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:33.039
you know they're they're they're they're green.
2190
01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:33.439
You know.
2191
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:36.000
It's like no, He's like there's like amateur guys and
2192
01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:38.000
I'm like, you know, they got their fan base and
2193
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:40.000
stuff that thing. But I'm not a fan of that.
2194
01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:44.319
I'm a fan of big show, big arena, big feud,
2195
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:49.000
big talkers. You know, I'm a big show guy. I
2196
01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:53.479
don't like the way the like the indie style work has.
2197
01:45:54.840 --> 01:45:57.600
You know, it's kind of like made its way into wrestling,
2198
01:45:57.640 --> 01:45:59.800
and that's kind of like the way people work right now.
2199
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:01.760
I'm not I'm just not a big fan of it.
2200
01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:04.319
You know, I never really will be. But that's just
2201
01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:06.560
my opinion, you guys. You know other people can like it.
2202
01:46:07.079 --> 01:46:10.119
I don't. That's just me, you know. I mean, I'm
2203
01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.239
not discrediting anybody for liking NXC, but it's it's just
2204
01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:14.720
absolutely not my cup key at all.
2205
01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:22.720
Okay, I'm just standable. Thanks that. Thanks going. What's a pleasure?
2206
01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:23.880
Right?
2207
01:46:24.079 --> 01:46:27.640
Okay, thank you, Kylin. Kylin drops off and that opens
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01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:29.720
up a line for you at six four six up
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We have another VIP member on hold. It is going
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By lives. And what's your hometown?
2213
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Wayne?
2214
01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:43.920
I didn't even ask.
2215
01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:47.199
H I'm down in a spring Hill, Florida guys, right
2216
01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:47.640
your camp?
2217
01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:49.359
Okay, Wayne from Florida, go for it.
2218
01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:53.479
Hey, uh disc go First off, man, I just want
2219
01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:55.359
to say it's great to be able to talk to you.
2220
01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:59.119
I love your character back in the w c W.
2221
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:01.279
It was uh for me it was just what it
2222
01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:04.199
was one of the highlights to see, especially uh you
2223
01:47:04.279 --> 01:47:07.439
know in your early run. Uh there just just that
2224
01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:10.479
character overall was just a it. It made me smile
2225
01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:11.279
every time I saw it.
2226
01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:11.479
Man.
2227
01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:13.079
So just uh, it's great to be able to talk
2228
01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:13.199
to you.
2229
01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:15.600
Thank you appreciate that. Cool.
2230
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:19.159
So so just talking about characters real quick because I
2231
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:22.119
feel like that, you know, uh, the Disco Inferno, it
2232
01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:25.840
really did kind of fulfill a real particular uh need
2233
01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:30.039
you know in in wrestling, do you have a favorite
2234
01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.640
and I'll just call it character wrestler, you know, somebody
2235
01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:36.359
who really kind of fills the role to uh to
2236
01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:38.439
to put a smile on the face of the fans.
2237
01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:41.600
Or do you have somebody right now in any promotion
2238
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:44.000
that's probably your your favorite guy to watch that you
2239
01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:46.000
just you man, you just love stopping and watching them
2240
01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:46.840
whenever he's on the screen.
2241
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:51.119
Boil boy. I'll be honest with you, bro, No, I
2242
01:47:51.159 --> 01:47:53.800
mean and now I'll go off on a ran here. Okay,
2243
01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:57.600
that's that's your question. Is this is this is a
2244
01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:02.760
this is a forgotten uh a forgotten skill that basically
2245
01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:05.680
makes a professional wrestling And when I grew when I
2246
01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:10.239
grew up Okay, when I was developing a character or
2247
01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:12.520
trying to come up with a character, okay, I knew
2248
01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:16.119
that the way you get over and the way you
2249
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:20.000
become memorable in this sport, and the way you create
2250
01:48:20.119 --> 01:48:24.680
longevity is you need to do something in that ring
2251
01:48:25.399 --> 01:48:28.760
with your character. Whether it's the way you talk, but
2252
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:32.319
whether your body matters, is anything that you do. You
2253
01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:35.800
have to have things that people can imitate. That When
2254
01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:38.560
two twelve year old kids are going in the backyard
2255
01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:41.600
and fake wrestling each other, one guy says, on the
2256
01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:44.399
Disco Inferno and the other guy says, I'm Daniel Bryan.
2257
01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:47.600
The Disco Infernal character can do my dance, and that
2258
01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:49.840
Daniel Briant character could stick a finger up there and
2259
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:50.760
do the SDSS.
2260
01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:51.119
Chance.
2261
01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.039
These days, everybody is just a wrestler. They don't even
2262
01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:58.560
have a character. They don't do anything they need do.
2263
01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:00.640
Like if I said in front of the thought, if
2264
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.439
I said I'm Neville, a two twelve year old kids
2265
01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:06.359
that I'm Neville at one says I'm Kevin Owens. Besides
2266
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:09.720
doing their spots and the hips line, what could they
2267
01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:13.600
do that would identify you that, like, okay, this is
2268
01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:16.119
what Kevin Owen does in there. This is what Neville
2269
01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:18.760
does in there. They don't do anything. They just wrestle
2270
01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:21.000
and they just spots and they have there's so many
2271
01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:24.520
good there's that's basically guys these days you know that
2272
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:28.239
are wrestling, they're they've forgotten that. You know, the character.
2273
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:31.039
You know, growing up with Macho Man, with the ooh yeah,
2274
01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:33.279
with Ronnie Piper, the way he talked with the hockey
2275
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:36.479
Tom Man Dude and Danielle Well. I grew up watching characters.
2276
01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:40.600
These days, there are no characters. There's nothing you can imitate.
2277
01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:44.399
There's nothing you can duplicate, you know, the the Reason deal.
2278
01:49:44.720 --> 01:49:47.000
You know, Daviel Browden's a good worker. Before Let's be honest,
2279
01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:48.680
the reason was super Over. He's one of the only
2280
01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:50.439
guys in the show. They had a gimmick, you know,
2281
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:53.920
yesterday was Over because it's like one of the only
2282
01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:57.039
things on the show, literally one of the only things. Well,
2283
01:49:57.079 --> 01:49:59.960
there was crowded during the match. You know, you look
2284
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:02.520
in the crowd the people do you know they're imitating?
2285
01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:06.520
So these days, you know, I just try to help
2286
01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:08.800
you know, people like like kids making the business. Well,
2287
01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:12.600
you got to do something that people can imitate. If
2288
01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:14.479
you want to really get over because basically, if when
2289
01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:16.319
you're just a worker and just a wrestler and all
2290
01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:18.840
you do is moves, you got to be really really
2291
01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:22.399
really really really really really good for people to remember you,
2292
01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:25.000
because other than that, you're just getting lost in the shuffle.
2293
01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:31.479
Hey everyone, longtime PW George commist Sean radikin here to
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I break down four or five of the biggest trending
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01:50:46.079 --> 01:50:48.880
insight that helps you understand the story better or see
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01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:51.880
it another way. Then maybe is the controversial takeout there?
2300
01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:54.319
Then I bring on a special guest for the second
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01:50:54.359 --> 01:50:57.359
half of the podcast. Sometimes it's a wrestler or someone
2302
01:50:57.439 --> 01:50:59.680
else who works in the business. Other times it's a
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01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:02.800
guest analysts who brings their specialized point of view out
2304
01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:05.840
a particular key topic in the news. Recent guests have
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01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:09.199
included Bronson Reid from WWE and PCO. One of my
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areas of specialty is the japan wrestling scene, so I
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have to cover a big topic from Japan with PW
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Torch his own, Alan Farrell, Kelly Wells, and Chris Lansdell.
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01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:20.880
I don't just cover the news. I don't just riff
2310
01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:23.279
on the news and give a standard hot takee opering
2311
01:51:23.359 --> 01:51:25.960
my decades of studying this industry and talking one on
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01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:29.520
one with dozens of wrestling promoters to each week's show
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so you understand not just what's happening, but the context
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of why get ahead of the news, get ahead of
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the pack with Radking worldwide only at PW Torch VIP.
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I gotta be honest.
2317
01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:45.640
I gotta tell you that in the pro wrestling simulator
2318
01:51:46.359 --> 01:51:48.239
that I used to play back when I was in college,
2319
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:50.600
it was just a tech Space simulator, it was Disco
2320
01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:53.000
Inferno in the Honky talk Man. They were my dream
2321
01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:55.119
tank team and you guys were the champions for a
2322
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:55.840
long long time.
2323
01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:00.279
Yeah, it's an imitatable gimme. You know, I don't to do.
2324
01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:02.960
But that's that's the thing. When I wrestled w CW
2325
01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:06.960
with the with the greatest, you know, you could say
2326
01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.079
whatever you want for bro our talent roster back then.
2327
01:52:09.119 --> 01:52:11.600
If you look at these guys, you know, very back
2328
01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:15.359
in history is by far the best, the best collection
2329
01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:17.439
Colt ever in the history of the business. Okay, yet
2330
01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:21.199
for your mid card was filled with future world champions,
2331
01:52:21.640 --> 01:52:23.840
you know, Jericho, Benway, Eddie. I mean, It's just it
2332
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:26.479
was ridiculous, and so still I would a worker like
2333
01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:28.960
those guys. I didn't. I didn't, you know, I couldn't
2334
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:31.159
go out there and and wrestle like them and have
2335
01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:34.079
that you know, their type of technical skill and stuff.
2336
01:52:34.239 --> 01:52:35.920
But what I could do is is I had a
2337
01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:39.159
gimmick and I could sell and I could bump. So
2338
01:52:39.279 --> 01:52:41.960
what I got there was just those on par with
2339
01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.399
everybody else. Is when I went out there, I got
2340
01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:47.439
a crowd reaction, okay, And like you know, the basically
2341
01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:50.039
that's that's the thing, is like you need to go
2342
01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:52.800
out there like your mindset is that. My mindset wasn't
2343
01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:54.920
like I'm gonna have the best match because I wasn't
2344
01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:57.279
gonna have the best match because Eddie was wrestling de
2345
01:52:57.399 --> 01:52:59.800
Malenko on the undercard and then while I was wrestling
2346
01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:02.640
the other qua. I'm was going to go out there
2347
01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:05.920
and get a good pop. My crowd reaction for the
2348
01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:09.039
Disco Sucks chance was going to be loud because I
2349
01:53:09.159 --> 01:53:11.039
knew I had good time and knew what to do
2350
01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:12.800
out there. So if I went out there and my
2351
01:53:12.920 --> 01:53:15.520
crowd participation was as good as everybody else is, I
2352
01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:18.880
did my job. And that's why I got longevity in
2353
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:21.720
the business. And that's why I was on TV for
2354
01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:24.840
seven straight years Westling a lot is because when I
2355
01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:26.960
was out there, I didn't rest in front of a
2356
01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:29.439
dead crowd. You know, I would do things, you know,
2357
01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:31.399
beyond the moves and stuff if did to get the
2358
01:53:31.439 --> 01:53:34.119
people to react. And that's that's what you need to do.
2359
01:53:34.279 --> 01:53:37.119
And that's what professional restling is. It shouldn't be as
2360
01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:38.960
difficult as it is these days to get a pop.
2361
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:41.279
It should be a lot easier. You know. You need
2362
01:53:41.359 --> 01:53:43.359
to just do things to deal that that don't hurt
2363
01:53:43.479 --> 01:53:46.199
to get a reaction. So that that's you know, that's
2364
01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:47.119
the way I always was.
2365
01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:51.720
Last question just really kind of looking at, you know,
2366
01:53:51.800 --> 01:53:54.000
WrestleMania the way that it's kind of shaping up with
2367
01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:56.359
the matches that have been announced, and you know, I
2368
01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:59.319
missed the days of the like the Events Center and
2369
01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:00.880
like that kind of stup where they just kind of
2370
01:54:01.159 --> 01:54:04.000
begin to start like announcing you know, matches going on,
2371
01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:06.399
and as far as like the undercard goes a lot
2372
01:54:06.479 --> 01:54:10.479
of the mid card and preliminary wrestlers. It seems like
2373
01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:12.720
their only place right now is something like that Andre
2374
01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:13.840
the Giant Battle Royal.
2375
01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:16.000
Is that enough?
2376
01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:19.159
Are there are there other kind of smaller preliminary spouts
2377
01:54:19.239 --> 01:54:21.600
that you'd like to see up on on on the
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01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:25.680
card at some point? If there's even one court now, well.
2379
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:27.119
I don't know, because I don't know. I don't know
2380
01:54:27.159 --> 01:54:30.880
if these kids are even capable of advancing their characters.
2381
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:32.960
I don't even know what the parists are, so it's like,
2382
01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:35.079
you hard to even do an angle when they you
2383
01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:37.079
don't even know anything about the guys. Doesn't the fact
2384
01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:39.560
that they just you know me, what what? What do
2385
01:54:39.640 --> 01:54:40.119
you know about?
2386
01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:40.199
What?
2387
01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:41.479
What do you know about Neville?
2388
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:43.760
Nothing?
2389
01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:45.680
The Man of Gravity forgot, That's all. They keep saying
2390
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:46.920
that that's that's it, that's it.
2391
01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:49.520
He's the way. There's no little plumbos backstage where he
2392
01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:51.880
could talk about Conflict's other guy that you know. No,
2393
01:54:52.399 --> 01:54:54.079
doesn't take that long to build characters.
2394
01:54:54.199 --> 01:54:54.840
I want to show.
2395
01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:56.960
The other night, they went through the first like sixty
2396
01:54:57.079 --> 01:54:59.640
five minutes of the show with the exception of like
2397
01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:04.079
a like uh like interviewing Honestly, if you did a
2398
01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:07.000
backstage interview segments like one in the one the one
2399
01:55:07.119 --> 01:55:08.520
one and a half minute where you get a guy
2400
01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:10.960
of coffee, you can explain something I don't think they
2401
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.239
did at the first hour of the show. And I'm like,
2402
01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:17.159
you know, no wonder nobody's over because nobody is out
2403
01:55:17.199 --> 01:55:20.159
there talking about anything or talking about how they feel
2404
01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:23.199
about anything. They're just like this then, you know. So
2405
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:26.239
it's like, I mean, then you're right when when you
2406
01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:28.880
do that and you have no characters, you have no conflict,
2407
01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:30.840
you have no personal character. Rich's about that, you guys,
2408
01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:33.159
anybody cares about you just stick them in a battle
2409
01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:35.680
like a Battle World, or stick them in four ways
2410
01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:37.960
and three way dances and everything with with you know,
2411
01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:40.960
where everybody's just wrestles for a belt or you know,
2412
01:55:41.359 --> 01:55:44.000
and and I don't know that there you can see it.
2413
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:47.199
That's why the people sit there and say there's been
2414
01:55:47.279 --> 01:55:52.199
such a such a mindset over the years. That's you
2415
01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:55.680
know that sports entertainment was a bad thing, you know
2416
01:55:55.840 --> 01:55:58.760
all crash TV. Well it wasn't crash TV. It's like
2417
01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:01.119
if you really good seconds, well sports entertainment like we
2418
01:56:01.279 --> 01:56:03.439
kind of like soiled the name of it, because like
2419
01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:05.680
everybody thinks that russold. It was like the worst thing
2420
01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:08.399
everybody hit professional wrestling. But if you watch the shows,
2421
01:56:08.960 --> 01:56:11.199
there was a lot of stuff on there. There was
2422
01:56:11.239 --> 01:56:14.119
a lot of backstage interviews, there was a lot of conflict,
2423
01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:15.920
there was a lot of personal character risis, there was
2424
01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:17.399
a lot of character development, there was a lot of
2425
01:56:17.439 --> 01:56:19.720
didn't exwors. So there's a lot of stuff. You know,
2426
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:25.840
these days, it's matches in ring interviews, two divas having
2427
01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:29.039
a phony conversation backstage where they're having real conversations on
2428
01:56:29.119 --> 01:56:31.800
the Diva show and their phone, you know, whether initial
2429
01:56:32.039 --> 01:56:35.439
the conversations or phony. And you know, you got guys
2430
01:56:36.119 --> 01:56:39.720
like like though Jericho's mad because like you know, the
2431
01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:42.439
fans are shading aj styles that he's like the only
2432
01:56:42.479 --> 01:56:44.359
guy that's got Colin keadthy going right now, because like
2433
01:56:44.399 --> 01:56:46.760
he seems like the grumpy old veteran that doesn't like
2434
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:47.279
the young guy.
2435
01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:47.439
You know.
2436
01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:49.960
So that's like that's like an issue, but there should
2437
01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:52.399
be everybody should have issues like that on the show.
2438
01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:54.800
You know, like everybody should have conflict because things are
2439
01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:57.079
upset about and everything, and you know, basically the only
2440
01:56:57.119 --> 01:57:00.960
angles like the one guy Jericho's in an angle. Everybody
2441
01:57:01.039 --> 01:57:03.960
else I don't bothering Big Moman, Range and Tipulations in
2442
01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:06.560
an angle. I just love this heartens with the belt,
2443
01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.760
you know, like they are they in an angle. You know,
2444
01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:14.119
I'm getting booed out of the building, you know, Triplation
2445
01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:17.560
getting cheers. I mean that should be the angle. You know,
2446
01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:20.039
Roman Range would be got. But one of the people
2447
01:57:20.079 --> 01:57:22.640
will come out when we Why are you guys going me?
2448
01:57:23.399 --> 01:57:23.600
You know.
2449
01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:27.399
They'll never get you.
2450
01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:29.960
Yeah, but but they'll never do that. So it's like,
2451
01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:32.600
you know, I mean that that's yeah, it's like you said.
2452
01:57:32.640 --> 01:57:34.039
So we're gonna be stuck in a bunch of Battle
2453
01:57:34.119 --> 01:57:37.640
Royals four ways, three ways, six ten man tags and stuff,
2454
01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:38.760
and that's that's all it is.
2455
01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:42.000
You know, I'll be uh, I'll be at WrestleMania. I'll
2456
01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.720
be heading to Dallas with uh with my family and uh,
2457
01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:46.239
you know, really looking forward to it. And I'll tell
2458
01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:48.800
you that the match that in my mind is the
2459
01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:50.680
main event for me. It's the one that I'm actually
2460
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:53.640
really interested in seeing, even though it's a triple threat,
2461
01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:56.039
it's the Devas title match because that's the one I
2462
01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:58.680
care about the most. Because uh, they've done at least
2463
01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:01.439
a better job of fleshing out and starting to do
2464
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:04.079
that with Sasha and Charlotte. I don't care about that match,
2465
01:58:04.279 --> 01:58:05.920
and I really care about the outcome. I wish it
2466
01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:08.560
was a one on one with either Sasha or Becky
2467
01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:11.319
against Charlotte. But honestly, in my mind that you know,
2468
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:12.840
that's the main event, because that's the one that I
2469
01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:15.520
care about the most, and uh, you know, I'm looking
2470
01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:17.560
forward to seeing it. But hey, guys, thanks so much.
2471
01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:19.439
I really appreciate you know the time, and I'm looking
2472
01:58:19.479 --> 01:58:20.520
forward to hearing the rest of the show.
2473
01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:25.079
Coolay, well, thank away. All right, Wayne drops off, and
2474
01:58:25.159 --> 01:58:27.039
that opens up a line for you at six four
2475
01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:31.079
six seven eight, PW Torchlive cass at gmail dot com
2476
01:58:32.039 --> 01:58:34.319
is the email way they're speaking of PW Torch Live
2477
01:58:34.399 --> 01:58:37.439
cast and gmail dot com. Obviously, I know, I know
2478
01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:39.680
we can't be on forever, but Disco, we're gonna try
2479
01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:42.039
to cram about five million questions in the next five
2480
01:58:42.079 --> 01:58:45.239
minutes or so. Okay, sounds good. All right, all right,
2481
01:58:45.319 --> 01:58:49.079
let's let's start with the chat room. Mister Chase, says
2482
01:58:49.199 --> 01:58:51.439
Pat ask Disco if he thinks Hulk Covian will win
2483
01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:52.600
the lawsuit against Cawker.
2484
01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:55.960
He's got a really good taste. I would hope I
2485
01:58:56.039 --> 01:58:57.720
hope he does BRO because he's got to do a
2486
01:58:57.760 --> 01:59:02.319
lot of paint and suffering over that. That's that scumbag website.
2487
01:59:02.359 --> 01:59:03.840
So I hope, I hope he wins.
2488
01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:06.560
I can see him winning. I'm just not sure he's
2489
01:59:06.600 --> 01:59:09.159
going to get a Yeah, he probably should win. He's
2490
01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:11.000
just not going to get a hundred million dollars. Well,
2491
01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:18.000
I mean that's a guess. Okay, Hey, I think yeah, Okay,
2492
01:59:18.479 --> 01:59:21.359
let's see why did Why does Wade's two dollars sixteen
2493
01:59:21.399 --> 01:59:24.520
deal in just before WrestleMania weekend? Gee, I can't imagine
2494
01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:31.079
why wearing a flat jacket isn't a gimmick? Iconic one says,
2495
01:59:31.640 --> 01:59:33.920
who knew that wearing a flat jacket isn't a gimmick? Well,
2496
01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:37.920
there you go, right, that's beautiful. All right, let's get it. Yeah,
2497
01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:42.239
let's get back to the disco questions. Jaez Tom said,
2498
01:59:42.319 --> 01:59:45.680
what are your thoughts on Global Forces announcement regarding their
2499
01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:48.399
new partnership with the reality production company.
2500
01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:52.119
I love it. I think it's just some more entertainment.
2501
01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:54.800
Think that's a pretty entertaining. Guys, there so, and they're
2502
01:59:54.840 --> 01:59:56.479
doing a reality show behind this. I think it'd be
2503
01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:57.119
entertaining TV.
2504
01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:03.600
Okay, let's go to a question from Matt. Matt asks Disco,
2505
02:00:04.079 --> 02:00:05.239
what is your beer of choice?
2506
02:00:06.840 --> 02:00:07.000
Uh?
2507
02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:11.960
Well these days, let me see SUPPORTO because I usually
2508
02:00:11.960 --> 02:00:14.479
just drink here when I go eat Japanese Achy sushi,
2509
02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:15.800
So Supporto or Karen Light.
2510
02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:19.600
Okay, and let's see what do you make of the
2511
02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:21.960
Mark mad and Michelle Beadle feud that was weeks ago.
2512
02:00:23.479 --> 02:00:25.239
I talked to that in a lot. I was not
2513
02:00:25.399 --> 02:00:28.439
very impressive it at all. I thought it was continuing significant.
2514
02:00:29.439 --> 02:00:32.960
Okay, let's see how many hours of sleep do you
2515
02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:34.920
ever tonight? I'm guessing that's for you?
2516
02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:36.960
What was that?
2517
02:00:38.000 --> 02:00:42.560
Five fives? Okay, let's see this question for me and
2518
02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:45.520
Jim Valley, who's not here, but disco. Disco's fine. How
2519
02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:47.560
awesome would it be for WW to do an old
2520
02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:51.079
old school wrestling and have shame Yeah, and have Shane
2521
02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:53.760
Gang control of raw and put Paul him? Yeah? They
2522
02:00:53.800 --> 02:00:57.600
did the brand split before. Is it a fan voice
2523
02:00:57.680 --> 02:01:00.199
dream or a terrible idea? It's not a terrible idea, Yeah,
2524
02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:03.279
but they don't. That's not how they think they they weren't.
2525
02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:05.640
They didn't want a brand split where people were legitimately
2526
02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:08.479
competing with each other because it's the same people writing
2527
02:01:08.520 --> 02:01:10.520
both shows. They don't want to bear.
2528
02:01:11.439 --> 02:01:13.680
I thought the brand splip was a was was a
2529
02:01:14.600 --> 02:01:17.159
the beginning of the of the doubt that the downs period,
2530
02:01:17.640 --> 02:01:19.760
because I thought it was. I thought it was ridiculous.
2531
02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:21.760
You're having a brand slip, but everybody knows it's the
2532
02:01:21.880 --> 02:01:23.680
ww It's all this insult work company.
2533
02:01:23.920 --> 02:01:25.560
I thought it was. I thought it was the dumb
2534
02:01:25.720 --> 02:01:28.319
It's like it was like the dumbest k fade trying
2535
02:01:28.359 --> 02:01:30.600
to like k fade the people disast like two different
2536
02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:32.359
things that everybody does. It get paid by the same guy.
2537
02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:33.680
It's like, we're doing as ridiculous.
2538
02:01:34.720 --> 02:01:37.439
Yeah, fust Plus they never actually acted. I mean, I
2539
02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:40.159
mean people had just seen a feud between WWF and
2540
02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:43.560
w CW and then Rob SmackDown. Weren't acting like the
2541
02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.199
way companies were actually feuding with each other act and
2542
02:01:46.319 --> 02:01:51.039
that was pretty obvious, right, So yeah, okay, let's see
2543
02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:53.760
James Wrights. I was watching Star K ninety nine on
2544
02:01:53.840 --> 02:01:55.840
the network. The Mama looks put you in a body bag.
2545
02:01:56.079 --> 02:01:58.399
How terrified were you and were you able to breathe
2546
02:01:59.199 --> 02:01:59.880
scared to death.
2547
02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:02.640
That says, that's a great story. I was petrified because
2548
02:02:02.680 --> 02:02:05.159
they zipped the thing up all the way and I
2549
02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:08.760
was like, yeah, I started like I started panicking because
2550
02:02:08.800 --> 02:02:10.600
like I was thinking I was gonna suffocate because I
2551
02:02:10.600 --> 02:02:11.920
don't know how long and if you see me, I'm
2552
02:02:11.920 --> 02:02:13.880
really sighting in there and I telling the guy and
2553
02:02:14.119 --> 02:02:17.840
they've they've I won't the hyperventilating. But I was panicking, okay,
2554
02:02:17.960 --> 02:02:21.680
because you know, I've never been suffocated before, so I
2555
02:02:21.720 --> 02:02:25.079
don't know how long. I don't enclosed thing like that
2556
02:02:25.239 --> 02:02:28.159
you could last without suffocating. I knew that we're gonna
2557
02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:30.720
be dragging me for a pretty long waye So like, yes,
2558
02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:32.920
I was tetrified when when I got jipped up in that.
2559
02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:36.119
Okay, for those of you listening live, uh, I mean
2560
02:02:36.159 --> 02:02:38.359
we're gonna answer questions as long as disc as long
2561
02:02:38.399 --> 02:02:41.119
as we can keep disco here, So get the download
2562
02:02:41.159 --> 02:02:43.279
if you want to hear your question answered all right,
2563
02:02:43.800 --> 02:02:46.079
Ted asks, Uh, how did you like to finish product
2564
02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:47.800
of your k FAE Commentary's DVD?
2565
02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:50.680
I thought it was very I was entertained doing it.
2566
02:02:50.760 --> 02:02:53.159
I taught the product the finish prodical sign I enjoyed it.
2567
02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:57.319
Just a reminder. You can reach us at Wade Keller
2568
02:02:57.399 --> 02:02:59.479
Post Show at gmail dot com if you're interested in
2569
02:02:59.520 --> 02:03:02.359
contributing the Flagship or Wade Keller Post Show at gmail
2570
02:03:02.399 --> 02:03:05.079
dot com if you're interested in submitting a question or
2571
02:03:05.159 --> 02:03:07.119
a topic or even a rant on the Wade Keller
2572
02:03:07.279 --> 02:03:08.640
Pro Wrestling post shows.
2573
02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:14.239
Okay, what are the chances of Vegas getting the Oakland Raiders?
2574
02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:15.159
Uh?
2575
02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:19.239
Maybe in though I have no idea.
2576
02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:26.119
Probably Ken. Yeah. Kevin Nation announced he was going to
2577
02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:28.920
donate his brain to Chris Nowinski Sports Legacy Group. Have
2578
02:03:28.960 --> 02:03:30.199
you considered donating yours?
2579
02:03:31.119 --> 02:03:35.640
Uh? Yeah, I would, because I don't know. I've only
2580
02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:39.680
had like one concussion. I've only had like one concussion.
2581
02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:41.760
But I'd like to see what this was my brain
2582
02:03:41.800 --> 02:03:44.319
trunk because I've you know, I've only blacked out like
2583
02:03:44.439 --> 02:03:47.399
one time, or whether I got hit harder got.
2584
02:03:47.399 --> 02:03:47.840
Flight, you know what?
2585
02:03:47.960 --> 02:03:50.159
What what would be considered a concussion these days? I
2586
02:03:50.239 --> 02:03:52.520
can recall having one, and I know it was a
2587
02:03:52.600 --> 02:03:54.399
mild I didn't eve think it was a concussion when
2588
02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:57.199
it happened, except I got hit in the head. There
2589
02:03:57.279 --> 02:04:00.239
was a black slash that lasted up milliseconds at the
2590
02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:02.600
point of impact, I had a bunt on my head.
2591
02:04:03.319 --> 02:04:05.479
I didn't have any symptoms. I just said, you know,
2592
02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:07.239
it didn't really hurt. It just hurt at the point
2593
02:04:07.239 --> 02:04:08.960
of the impact because we got punched. Punch to the
2594
02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:11.119
forehead art I put out, I thought my forehead.
2595
02:04:11.560 --> 02:04:13.399
I didn't have any symptoms, so fine.
2596
02:04:13.560 --> 02:04:15.880
I got home and I couldn't remember the security called
2597
02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:16.439
to get my house.
2598
02:04:17.880 --> 02:04:19.159
Yeah that's a concussion.
2599
02:04:19.439 --> 02:04:22.520
Yeah, concussion. I didn't really feel like, you know, I'm
2600
02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:24.720
I didn't have headaches or nothing, but but yeah, that's
2601
02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:25.399
all concussion.
2602
02:04:26.319 --> 02:04:28.119
Yeah, that's that's the problem that people who have the
2603
02:04:28.159 --> 02:04:30.520
concussions are usually the worst ones at figuring out, well,
2604
02:04:30.520 --> 02:04:34.560
you know what happened because because you had a concussion. Okay, yeah,
2605
02:04:34.600 --> 02:04:36.920
this is this is some Bruce fifty cent came out
2606
02:04:36.960 --> 02:04:39.159
with a song back in the day entitled Disco Inferno.
2607
02:04:39.359 --> 02:04:40.359
Was he paying homage to you?
2608
02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:41.560
No?
2609
02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:42.359
Is he?
2610
02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:44.079
If you listened to the word there's nothing do with me.
2611
02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:48.760
Have you heard anything about Shane Douglas's promotion out of
2612
02:04:48.880 --> 02:04:49.479
Las Vegas.
2613
02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:52.439
It was a posted well I know it's supposed to
2614
02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:56.079
start about it in the past nine months ago, I
2615
02:04:56.199 --> 02:04:56.840
don't say.
2616
02:04:56.680 --> 02:04:58.960
Do you own any Do you own any NWL Wolf
2617
02:04:59.039 --> 02:04:59.760
packed T shirts?
2618
02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:00.720
Yes?
2619
02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:01.279
I got one.
2620
02:05:02.520 --> 02:05:07.600
Okay, let's see Ricky asks what happened to Robbie raising Kenny?
2621
02:05:07.680 --> 02:05:08.920
Chaos of high Voltage?
2622
02:05:10.399 --> 02:05:13.520
Their altitude? Their attitude determine their altitude.
2623
02:05:14.920 --> 02:05:18.079
What do you think of Ryeback's character development? And have
2624
02:05:18.239 --> 02:05:19.600
you ever run into him in Vegas?
2625
02:05:20.520 --> 02:05:23.560
I haven't run into him in Vegas, but his characters
2626
02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:27.399
if it's getting better, I don't know. I would love
2627
02:05:27.479 --> 02:05:29.119
to like I'd love to sit with that kid for
2628
02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:31.479
about twenty minutes and give him some tips I think
2629
02:05:31.520 --> 02:05:32.039
he could use.
2630
02:05:33.600 --> 02:05:37.199
Okay, let's see Gary, Gary asks, will you be at
2631
02:05:37.239 --> 02:05:38.279
wally Mania this year?
2632
02:05:39.279 --> 02:05:40.680
No, I'm not looking for wrestle media.
2633
02:05:41.840 --> 02:05:43.119
No, he said wally Mania.
2634
02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:44.359
But yeah, well I'm not.
2635
02:05:44.720 --> 02:05:46.279
I'm not doing any appearance as the best of many.
2636
02:05:46.159 --> 02:05:48.800
Weekends, so all right, Okay? Did you ever hook up
2637
02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:49.640
with a nitro girl?
2638
02:05:50.399 --> 02:05:51.199
That's no, I never did.
2639
02:05:52.439 --> 02:05:53.560
Okay, yeah, he didn't.
2640
02:05:53.560 --> 02:05:56.079
Mentioned some of the other guys did, though.
2641
02:05:56.119 --> 02:05:56.800
If I heard.
2642
02:05:59.119 --> 02:06:02.039
Philip, How did you do in fantasy football this past season?
2643
02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:06.159
I won the second last week of the season on
2644
02:06:06.319 --> 02:06:08.720
Sanduel I got eleventh place out of forty six thousand
2645
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:10.600
people when seventy five hundred dollars and became in third
2646
02:06:10.640 --> 02:06:11.039
of my league.
2647
02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:14.560
That's good? All right? Where do r G three and
2648
02:06:14.640 --> 02:06:15.439
Kaepernick land?
2649
02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:17.039
Uh?
2650
02:06:17.760 --> 02:06:19.640
Frish, it looks like RG three might end up in Denver?
2651
02:06:19.720 --> 02:06:20.319
I'm here today.
2652
02:06:21.520 --> 02:06:23.720
Well, yeah, they they suddenly need a quarterback.
2653
02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:28.119
Yeah, super him? That unbelievable. How team was the Super Bowl?
2654
02:06:28.239 --> 02:06:28.399
Yeah?
2655
02:06:28.560 --> 02:06:31.439
Just what a shock that you're paying all these guys?
2656
02:06:31.479 --> 02:06:33.000
He went a Super Bowl nine? Can afford him for
2657
02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:33.439
another year?
2658
02:06:34.960 --> 02:06:35.119
Well?
2659
02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:37.359
Yeah, I mean I think they kind of took him
2660
02:06:37.359 --> 02:06:40.880
for granted. But yeah, I don't know about Kaepernick's a
2661
02:06:40.920 --> 02:06:43.880
tough one, though. I guess Dallas is a possibility.
2662
02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:47.520
Uh yeah, I would say, I don't know. We'll see.
2663
02:06:47.560 --> 02:06:49.439
I would think that that Denver might as well just
2664
02:06:49.479 --> 02:06:52.159
go and get Bryant Hoyer since uh they got a
2665
02:06:52.279 --> 02:06:54.880
Denver got osawat because they can't be worse than Peyton
2666
02:06:54.920 --> 02:06:55.720
Manny was last year.
2667
02:06:56.920 --> 02:07:01.239
Yeez. All right, let's see, Andrew asks, has any independent
2668
02:07:01.239 --> 02:07:04.279
promoter tried to make a disco battle between you and
2669
02:07:04.479 --> 02:07:05.079
Rhodus Clay?
2670
02:07:06.560 --> 02:07:06.600
No?
2671
02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:07.159
Not yet?
2672
02:07:07.960 --> 02:07:11.800
No, Yeah, okay, let's say Mark as Mark from Wisconsin
2673
02:07:11.960 --> 02:07:14.840
says Rob was at a different arena than the Bucks
2674
02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:17.119
and the Bulls were on Monday. Yeah, that's true. Yeah
2675
02:07:17.159 --> 02:07:20.119
they were at the old Rosemont Horizon out in Rosemont,
2676
02:07:20.159 --> 02:07:23.680
and the Bulls play downtown. Sylvester says Disco. I assume
2677
02:07:23.720 --> 02:07:25.640
you got your SAG card during Ready to Rumble. Do
2678
02:07:25.720 --> 02:07:28.720
you still pay your sag dues? And how much did
2679
02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:29.640
you make on that shoot?
2680
02:07:30.880 --> 02:07:33.399
I still make money on that. I still get royalties
2681
02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:38.079
every three months. Sometimes sometimes they're in sense and other
2682
02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:40.840
times it be like three four hundred dollars. But I
2683
02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:42.399
need not You know, you have to stay current. You
2684
02:07:42.439 --> 02:07:44.119
have to do something within a year. That's to maintain
2685
02:07:44.119 --> 02:07:46.840
your SAG card. So I haven't a sagging forever.
2686
02:07:48.000 --> 02:07:51.560
Okay, Wikipedia lists nineteen sixty seven is your birth year.
2687
02:07:51.600 --> 02:07:53.760
I could have sworn it was sixty eight. That's Selvester again.
2688
02:07:54.560 --> 02:07:57.279
No, no, I didn't see Wikipedia sixty seven is my birthday.
2689
02:07:57.279 --> 02:07:59.600
Wikipedia had a rodes he had it at sixty eighth
2690
02:07:59.640 --> 02:07:59.960
for a while.
2691
02:08:00.960 --> 02:08:04.000
Okay, let's see Mark Disco. I like what you said
2692
02:08:04.039 --> 02:08:08.479
about WW fans and how many Okay, Uh. One thing
2693
02:08:08.520 --> 02:08:10.760
that bothers me is how the Smarts treat certain guys
2694
02:08:10.760 --> 02:08:13.960
in compaison to others they mercilessly boot Roman reigns. But
2695
02:08:14.159 --> 02:08:17.680
sure for fads such as Axlemani and Fandango. Sometimes the
2696
02:08:17.760 --> 02:08:20.239
fans bother me worse than the actual show. What are
2697
02:08:20.239 --> 02:08:20.640
your thoughts?
2698
02:08:23.319 --> 02:08:26.600
I've done on this ramp before, bro, your your Your
2699
02:08:26.680 --> 02:08:30.359
typical live wrestling audience these days is about five thousand
2700
02:08:30.680 --> 02:08:33.960
internet trolls, and the other half is is kids that
2701
02:08:34.039 --> 02:08:36.279
are dragging their parents to see the show. The internet
2702
02:08:36.319 --> 02:08:38.600
trolls are ruining the experience. So the kids that are
2703
02:08:38.680 --> 02:08:41.000
there going to the show with their parents and they
2704
02:08:41.079 --> 02:08:42.479
basically just hijacked the show.
2705
02:08:43.119 --> 02:08:43.279
You know.
2706
02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:46.000
It's like, I mean, if there was you, you could
2707
02:08:46.039 --> 02:08:49.439
honestly say that half the fans of the arena the
2708
02:08:49.680 --> 02:08:51.800
w W would rather not just have them show up
2709
02:08:52.600 --> 02:08:54.720
because of what they do to the product.
2710
02:08:55.560 --> 02:08:55.720
You know.
2711
02:08:55.960 --> 02:08:58.960
So and it's well, it's just trolling that says it's
2712
02:08:59.000 --> 02:09:01.439
showing to the point of beause comes like it becomes
2713
02:09:01.520 --> 02:09:04.399
like you practice it as they do it enough and
2714
02:09:04.439 --> 02:09:06.720
it becomes like the customs, you know, like the.
2715
02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:09.199
Yeah.
2716
02:09:09.319 --> 02:09:12.039
So it's like, you know, they don't really understood why.
2717
02:09:12.159 --> 02:09:15.760
I mean, we're talking Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, which is known for
2718
02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:20.000
booing Santa Claus on Christmas. You know, those fans booed
2719
02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:22.159
woman reigns when he won the world rumbo bro and
2720
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:24.920
the guy never really did anything wrong. You know if
2721
02:09:24.960 --> 02:09:26.319
I feel kind of bad for the guy of the
2722
02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:28.600
way he's been treated by by the by the Internet community,
2723
02:09:28.600 --> 02:09:31.199
because he's just basically done everything they told him to do,
2724
02:09:32.079 --> 02:09:34.199
you know, and he's he's nothing that. I don't think
2725
02:09:34.239 --> 02:09:36.800
he's doing it poorly. I just you know, and I
2726
02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:41.039
don't think he deserves, you know, the treatment that he's getting, so,
2727
02:09:41.680 --> 02:09:44.760
you know, and then if the fans, the fans have
2728
02:09:44.840 --> 02:09:47.039
a lot to blame, to have a lot of blame
2729
02:09:47.319 --> 02:09:48.920
to take with the products these days, I think, and
2730
02:09:48.960 --> 02:09:51.319
I don't think they ever will because they think like, oh,
2731
02:09:51.399 --> 02:09:53.520
we're the fans, we're paying. Like, yeah, you're paying. But like,
2732
02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:56.359
you know, if if I was having a party at
2733
02:09:56.399 --> 02:09:59.159
my house and have the people acted like the fans
2734
02:09:59.199 --> 02:10:01.520
of the ww he'll show acting, it wouldn't be a
2735
02:10:01.600 --> 02:10:03.600
very fun party, you know, I will probably have to
2736
02:10:03.680 --> 02:10:05.439
kick them all out, you know something. And then that's
2737
02:10:05.439 --> 02:10:07.319
the way I feel like the fans are the w
2738
02:10:07.479 --> 02:10:07.960
W shows.
2739
02:10:09.079 --> 02:10:11.159
Well, how much is the cover charge at your party?
2740
02:10:12.199 --> 02:10:12.319
Uh?
2741
02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:15.439
Why what our our club is like expensive, it's forty five,
2742
02:10:15.479 --> 02:10:16.600
except you call the limited.
2743
02:10:18.279 --> 02:10:21.880
Yeah that's still cheaper than than ringside ww A. So okay,
2744
02:10:22.000 --> 02:10:27.640
yeah right, fair enough, all right, yeah, let's okay. Yeah.
2745
02:10:27.720 --> 02:10:29.600
Borrows had a question for me which all answer. On
2746
02:10:29.640 --> 02:10:32.800
the after show, Greg asks, Greg says, overall, I think
2747
02:10:32.840 --> 02:10:34.600
Triple H has done a bad job of being a
2748
02:10:34.680 --> 02:10:38.159
heel and getting heat opposite of Roman reigns uh. James,
2749
02:10:38.239 --> 02:10:40.119
Carl Wall and Wake Tellor have the theory that Triple
2750
02:10:40.199 --> 02:10:42.439
H is being selfish and that he enjoys being over
2751
02:10:42.479 --> 02:10:44.199
at Roman's expense. What are your thoughts?
2752
02:10:48.239 --> 02:10:51.479
I mean, they've The problem with them is there's there's
2753
02:10:51.600 --> 02:10:53.960
they've completely lost touch with with what gets over what
2754
02:10:54.520 --> 02:10:56.000
you know, what the what the cowy cloud is going
2755
02:10:56.039 --> 02:10:58.319
to react? I think I think Booking himself is a
2756
02:10:58.399 --> 02:11:00.840
heel thinking he's going to get a heal reactions but
2757
02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:03.720
not realizing, like bro good, the the you're you're you're
2758
02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:05.800
smart to go to hijackets, they're just gonna cheer you.
2759
02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:08.000
They're gonna cheer you no matter what you do against
2760
02:11:08.039 --> 02:11:10.920
Roman range you know, so you won't you know, does
2761
02:11:11.079 --> 02:11:13.840
embrace it? Embrace it and just go with it and
2762
02:11:13.960 --> 02:11:17.199
be a babyface somehow and likes or just you know,
2763
02:11:17.560 --> 02:11:19.520
if you still fight it. But is this keep get
2764
02:11:19.600 --> 02:11:20.159
the same reaction?
2765
02:11:21.640 --> 02:11:26.920
Yeah, that's I mean. But also, I mean when you
2766
02:11:27.000 --> 02:11:29.920
have the reigns, you know, it's kind of.
2767
02:11:29.920 --> 02:11:33.359
Hard to but but honestly, but watch your show for
2768
02:11:33.439 --> 02:11:36.359
the past three years. The rains aren't good. The crowd
2769
02:11:36.439 --> 02:11:39.239
reactions are not what they want everything. So they're they're right,
2770
02:11:39.319 --> 02:11:42.680
they're booking this, they're riding it, they're going to TV
2771
02:11:43.039 --> 02:11:46.159
and they're they're they're putting that on TV. They think
2772
02:11:46.920 --> 02:11:49.760
that they're doing something live, and it's like, wow, It's like,
2773
02:11:50.079 --> 02:11:52.319
at what point is somebody gonna say just raise their
2774
02:11:52.359 --> 02:11:54.840
hands and say you know what? You know, when when
2775
02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:56.840
they're when they're writing the show, or when they're reading
2776
02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:59.199
the show and in the when they're reading, in the
2777
02:11:59.239 --> 02:12:01.279
production meeting or whatever. When do you go to production
2778
02:12:01.319 --> 02:12:04.640
media to read the show? Right, if anybody raise their hands, like,
2779
02:12:04.680 --> 02:12:06.399
you know, if nobody ever raised their head, you know what,
2780
02:12:06.479 --> 02:12:09.359
this show sucks. You know, nobody's saying that, but like,
2781
02:12:09.439 --> 02:12:14.439
you know, it's like if you read, yeah, well I'm
2782
02:12:14.479 --> 02:12:15.920
just saying if you just sit there and say, like,
2783
02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:18.960
you know what, Like if you if you read what's
2784
02:12:19.000 --> 02:12:21.560
going on, if you if you read the show and
2785
02:12:21.640 --> 02:12:23.199
you sit there and said, like, you know, what is
2786
02:12:23.279 --> 02:12:25.560
going to make more people watch the shows than they
2787
02:12:25.600 --> 02:12:28.680
did last week? And if the answer is basically nothing,
2788
02:12:29.279 --> 02:12:31.079
you're really not for you really not righting that could
2789
02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:34.199
have a show, you know. So I think that's they
2790
02:12:34.239 --> 02:12:37.119
think that they think they're writing a good show, but
2791
02:12:37.239 --> 02:12:39.119
it does not come across like that on TV. But
2792
02:12:39.239 --> 02:12:41.920
every single week it's to say, that's that's that's the problem.
2793
02:12:42.359 --> 02:12:44.640
All right, one more question that it's for me because
2794
02:12:44.960 --> 02:12:46.800
Johnny fair Play wanted to make to make sure you've
2795
02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:49.560
got some gambling questions out Who do you like it?
2796
02:12:49.640 --> 02:12:50.039
Who do you like?
2797
02:12:50.079 --> 02:12:52.199
For the presidential election? They're taking bets out there.
2798
02:12:53.039 --> 02:12:56.520
Oh, Hillary's for sure, just as character, she's the one.
2799
02:12:56.720 --> 02:12:59.439
She's she's a small favorite over Trump and then like
2800
02:12:59.560 --> 02:13:01.720
now like a well Rodney was like a like a
2801
02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:03.560
two eighty underdog. She's only like a one to forty
2802
02:13:03.600 --> 02:13:08.640
favorite over over Trump right now, but she's gonna be Yeah,
2803
02:13:08.720 --> 02:13:10.920
she's like a lock. She's like a one to sixteen
2804
02:13:11.039 --> 02:13:14.159
favorite to win the Democratic nod. So so it's it's
2805
02:13:14.159 --> 02:13:16.640
a lock. It's gonna be trumping Hillary for sure, barring
2806
02:13:16.760 --> 02:13:20.720
some miracle, but but that's it. Yeah, I would just
2807
02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:22.680
bet you know, she's a slight favorite. She'll probably win.
2808
02:13:23.319 --> 02:13:26.920
Okay, well, Disco, thank you very much. Listen, we can
2809
02:13:27.039 --> 02:13:29.319
do it having you on him. Yeah, and uh, be
2810
02:13:29.399 --> 02:13:31.960
sure to watch Disco Inferno. You can watch all of
2811
02:13:32.039 --> 02:13:34.800
his career highlights pretty much. Uh, now that they've uploaded,
2812
02:13:34.920 --> 02:13:38.199
loaded Nitro on the WWE network. And uh and how
2813
02:13:38.239 --> 02:13:40.239
can people finally on social media Disco.
2814
02:13:40.960 --> 02:13:42.239
At the real Distel on Twitter.
2815
02:13:43.560 --> 02:13:47.199
Okay, save your savior. Good good questions today people, all right,
2816
02:13:47.239 --> 02:13:50.439
thanks Disco, enjoy your enjoy teaching class. Say how to
2817
02:13:50.479 --> 02:13:50.840
the kids.
2818
02:13:51.880 --> 02:13:55.000
Thanks man, take care, and thank you the rest of.
2819
02:13:55.039 --> 02:13:56.720
You for sticking with us here for the hour and
2820
02:13:56.880 --> 02:13:59.920
change wades by tomorrow with Brian Fritz. We're gonna have
2821
02:14:00.039 --> 02:14:03.159
Tommy Dreamer with us next Wednesday VIP after show. We'll
2822
02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:05.399
be up later tonight. Just a whole lot happening this
2823
02:14:05.479 --> 02:14:08.520
weekend with Roadblock and the Road to WrestleMania. And I'll
2824
02:14:08.560 --> 02:14:12.680
be joining James Caldwell on Monday after Raw from Pittsburgh
2825
02:14:12.720 --> 02:14:16.199
and we'll be doing the postgame show until then, keep
2826
02:14:16.199 --> 02:14:18.039
your feed on the ground and keep shooting for the stars.
2827
02:14:18.039 --> 02:14:18.840
Good night, everybody.
2828
02:14:28.119 --> 02:14:31.279
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