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Dane Wigington. Welcome to The Other Side of Midnight. Dane
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is a lead researcher, one of the world's largest independent
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investigations into climate modification operations. He has a background in
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energy engineering, solar power, wildlife and forest resilience research, spent
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more than two decades documenting aerosol spraying, ionosphere heaters, cloud seeding,
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RF weather modulation, and the expanding infrastructure of atmospheric intervention.
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A lot of very big words for people screwing around
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with our climate. Dane, welcome to the show.
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Thank you very much to WABC for continuing to address
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this issue that many are finally waking up to, but
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not fast enough.
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The good news for you and me is we're on many, many,
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many radio stations. In addition to WABC, we're on KMOX
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in St. Louis, WGN in Chicago, other giant radio stations,
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Talk 910 in Detroit. You're heard throughout America right now.
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And I agree with you. It's a very important thing
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to discuss because the biggest obstacle you have in discussing
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atmospheric interference by humans is is convincing most people that
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it actually is happening because there's no press release coming
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out saying, yes, we are interfering with the atmosphere, no
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need to worry. There's no official statement. There's nothing from NASA,
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the federal government, the Canadian government. Nobody is saying, yes,
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this is actually going. Those contrails, no, that's not exhaust
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from jets. That's actual chemicals affecting our atmosphere, our crops,
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how well we breathe, everything. Explain to us why you
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know it's true that there's endless tampering with our atmosphere.
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Where would I start? We have mountains of data, government documents,
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presidential documents. We, GeoengineeringWatch.org, took a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
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Administration flying lab with top scientists in it from Rinser
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Polytechnic to sample what heavy aircraft were emitting in our atmosphere,
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found exactly what we knew we would find, geoengineering elements
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starting with aluminum nanoparticles, That's a bioavailable free-form aluminum, which
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doesn't exist naturally in nature. It's a primary element named
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in climate-adjusting patents. We've done virtually hundreds and hundreds of
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lab tests across the country, many others around the world.
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We did 500 lab tests with the University of Minnesota,
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confirming these elements in our precipitation. If it's in the rain,
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it's in everything else. And my God, it is truly
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perplexing to me that people can't look at the skies
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and know something is radically, radically wrong. It's exactly what's
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stated by the climate science community, what they want to do,
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but jets in the sky to spray particles that will
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white out the sky, disrupt the hydrological cycle, leave trails
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in every direction. They describe everything we see, but then
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they say, well, we're not seeing what we're seeing. And
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they lie all the way along. I know HAARP was
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mentioned before, I think before the break happened, and some
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things we didn't discuss last time on HAARP, the type
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of sleight of hand that goes on. They can't afford
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these issues to come to light, can they? That would
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be the pitchforks and torches moment. The liability issues would
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be absolutely incalculable. It would overturn the entire paradigm. So
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we're given sleight of hand, for example, with HAARP as
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people begin to wake up to that in 2014. They
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pretended they were going to take it down, and they said,
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that's proof that this is not a weapon of mass destruction. Look,
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we're going to tear it down. We said at GeoGeoWatch.org,
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never going to happen. They're never going to touch that facility.
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They never did. They just did a sleight of hand
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change of management and pretended. I'm looking at an NPR
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story right now from 2014. Bye-bye to the home of
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the favorite Internet conspiracy theory. Like, HAARP was going to
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go away, and that proved it was a conspiracy theory. Nope,
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never went anywhere. So I'm saying that it's getting ludicrous
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at this point. It's getting ludicrous. Did you see Robert F.
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Kennedy last week at an event? Gave his same dog
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and pony show response of, we're going to look into, quote, chemtrails.
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Did you see that?
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I saw he said, we're going to look into chemtrails.
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That was about all he said.
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That is exactly right. That is all he said. And
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he knows not to use that term. He knows that.
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I've had... Robert's interviewed me for an hour. I've had...
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two fairly extensive off-air conversations with him at different points.
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He knows that that is the instant marginalization term, and
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that's why he's using it. Just like Lee Zeldin, head
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of EPA, pretended, we're going to be very transparent, and
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we're going to look into this. Oh, here's our website,
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just condensation, nothing to see here, move along. It's absolutely
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ludicrous that people ignore their sense of reason and logic.
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Just today over in Northern California, we had ovals, X-patterns,
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totally out of any commercial air corridor routes sky completely
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past plastered total covered sky with aerosols and and we're
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told this isn't happening it's becoming ludicrous this issue is
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going to come to light a whole lot of people
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are going to have a whole lot of explaining to
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do at that point.
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All right dane how is it going to come to
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light And when we look at the sky, let me
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put this in perspective, because you look at the sky,
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you study this data all day, every day, you are
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in the best sense, and I thank you for this,
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obsessed with this. However, you and I are at the
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moment also talking to people who have to pick up
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their kid at school. We have to get that project done.
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Winter's coming. Oh, the furnace is making noise. There's a
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strange sound underneath the hood of the car. There are
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so many things that day to day we deal with. Oh, geez,
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I can't believe how much that gallon of milk costs.
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And I really can't believe how much that gallon of
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gas costs. There are many, many distractions from a very
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important phenomena that needs our attention. But we have a
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lot of distractions when we look at the sky. What
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should I look at for my 90 seconds that I
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get to look at the sky? And then what positive
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actions can I take to support your initiatives?
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Well, first, those are all exceptionally important and accurate points
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you bring up. That's very, very true, and I do
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recognize that. I think it's going to be a bigger
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distraction when people go to the market and find food
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shales empty, and we are hurtling toward that point. And
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I'm not hanging that all around the neck of climate
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engineering or although a great deal of it, in fact,
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far more than people would imagine, the blame belongs in
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that arena. And when there's not enough to eat, there's
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going to be a whole lot more people paying attention
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because we know these elements are virtually sterilizing soils that
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are already radically depleted. Bioavailable aluminum is toxic to all
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life forms, period. It's killing soil microbiome. It's affecting root systems.
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We have a very good study to prove that. It
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causes nutrient uptake shutdown. And the lies were fed also,
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and this affects people's ability to buy food, which they
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won't have any option but to pay attention to. We're
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told the ozone layer is getting better. We're told that
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every year. It's getting better, better, better. But oops, this
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year we just had a headline, whole blows in the
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ozone layer over Antarctica. We know it's radically thinning everywhere
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because we hired probably the world's top Ozone or UV
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metering expert supplied him with state-of-the-art equipment. We're getting UVC
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in the surface. It's a blatant, glaring lie. They're not
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even metering for UVC. They don't even look for it.
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How can you dispose what you're not looking for? People
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should feel the sun searing their skin. It's incredibly hot.
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It's burning the cambium layer off of trees. It's scorching
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crowns of trees. It's mind-numbing that people can ignore that.
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And we just got articles this week from UK Guardian,
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Planetary Boundaries. necessary for flourishing of life have been massively breached,
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scientists warn. Well, we stated at Geoengineering Watch.org from day one,
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the state of the climate and the environment is not
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as bad as we're being told, even by people like
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Al Gore. It's way worse. Way worse. And we see
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that every week now. Scientists saying, oh my God, it's
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way worse than we thought. So now they're admitting, and
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they're doing this so they don't panic the herd, and
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geoengineering is used to keep that or that deceptive division
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going by engineering snowstorms in New Orleans while it's raining
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in the Arctic, literally. But we would argue, this article
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reports that seven of the nine primary planetary life support
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systems have been breached. We would argue that's not true.
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All nine have been radically breached, but the only two
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they say have not been breached is the ozone layer
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deterioration and atmospheric aerosol loading. Both colossal lies. Yep, go ahead.
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Dan Wiginton, a scientist on the atmosphere. You mentioned there
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are nine, what did you say, nine what?
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They're called planetary boundaries. Planetary boundaries.
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Wait, wait.
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Planetary boundaries. Bore me. Could you list the nine planetary boundaries?
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And you're saying they've all been breached. What are they?
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There's, we have the ozone layer is one. We have
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the stratospheric ozone depletion, atmospheric aerosol loading. We have the
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hydrological cycle.
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I didn't mean to stump you. I didn't mean to
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stump you. I figured that these were.
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I mean, all my boundaries, I don't... That's okay.
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That's all right.
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But you're saying that they've all been... breached, and this
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puts us in great danger. I'm going to ask one
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more stupid question. They put us in great danger of what?
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Omnicide. Planetary omnicide. How does a planet continue if... The
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primary life support pillars have all been breached. Here we go. Okay.
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Danger zone. Planetary boundaries. One. Climate change. Two. Change in
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biosphere integrity. There's a lot of other lines we can
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fill in under that one. Land system change. Freshwater change.
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Modifications of biochemical flows. Introduction of novel entities. There's a
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lot of other blanks that can go under that. Ocean acidification.
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That's the seventh that was just added. what they're omitting,
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ozone depletion and atmospheric aerosol loading, which is absolute nonsense.
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We have so many aerosols in the atmosphere now. That's
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where the term global dimming came from, and that's what
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brought me into this issue, Walter, because I have an
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off-grid home with the cover article of the world's largest
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renewable energy magazine, and I was losing 50% of my
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solar uptake from whatever these aircraft were emitting. That can't
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be just, quote, condensation or jet exhaust, right? And when
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I began to test my precipitation, as we may have
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discussed earlier at our earlier exchange, I didn't want to
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find geoengineering elements, and it's starting with aluminum, and I did.
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I continued to test. I continued to research for 18
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months before I spoke out about any of this. But
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by my final test, there was about 3,450 parts per
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billion of aluminum in my rain. And again... They're simply lying,
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and we know this. I've been in high-level EPA meetings
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in Sacramento. Five top California EPA officials, meaning arranged by
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a congressional rep, told the entire system is rigged, told
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to my face, that they test for combustion particulates only,
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generally PM10, which is a boulder compared to a nanoparticle,
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so the rest goes completely unreported and completely under the radar.
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Completely rigged system, because they cannot afford people to wake
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up to what's happening in our skies.
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Dane Wigington, if you'd like to chat with him, that
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would be great. The phone number is 800-848-9222, 800-848-9222. Timetable,
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you say that these nine veils of safety have all
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been breached, that our atmosphere is deteriorating at a remarkable rate. Dane,
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do you have a timetable as to when You and
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I are going to feel this on a daily basis
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when you and I are going to be in trouble,
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when you and I are going to have to live
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in lead-lined rooms.
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Well, if anybody looks at headlines from around the globe,
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there's about four to five dozen countries right now that
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are heading into Mad Max scenarios, literally. And we're seeing
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crop collapse here, fisheries collapse here. And I can tell you...
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What the polar scientists are saying right now, and I
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know a couple of them that don't have the courage
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to admit to this issue, even though they know about it,
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they don't want to lose their paychecks, their pensions, their grants.
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But the polar scientists, the top polar scientists, because of
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the feedback loops that have been triggered, about 50, 50
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feedback loops, which means once triggered, it feeds on itself
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and we're in a runaway scenario. We are right now.
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So the polar scientists right now are stating that we
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could see a six to eight degree C rise in
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global temperatures by the end of this decade. If that happens,
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we're done. And they've stated that on the record, that
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by the end of this decade, we could face near
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planetary extinction and certainly the end of the human race.
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And now it's interesting, Walter, you just saw the AI,
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I'm sure you've been following that, that some of the
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top AI people have stated by the end of, this decade,
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we could have serious AI problems, right? So now we have,
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now we know that AI, and we discovered this at geoengineeringwatch.org,
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our weekly global alert news broadcast, political, non-political, no advertisements,
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but we know AI is involved with climate engineering. What
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a surprise. So it's truly converging cataclysms at this point.
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And what people don't understand, and this is key, Einstein
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made mention of this as a human fault, the inability
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to understand the exponential equation, and we are most definitely
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in one right now.
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Define that for me, because I was an English major.
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When we have feedback loops that increase the rate of change,
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many deviations from normal... The rate of change is incalculable,
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and we're there. So let me give two big feedback loops.
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The planet's albedo is being lost. It's reflectivity, which allows
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it to retain its energy balance. It's being lost radically fast.
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The planet's natural cloud production processes are deteriorating rapidly, most
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rapidly in equatorial zones, but it's spreading north, now in south.
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And that loss of albedo, the reflectivity, means that the
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planet's energy balance has been completely skewed The energy buildup
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on the planet right now is the thermal energy equivalent
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of about 14 Hiroshima bombs per second. That means the heat,
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I know you know this, but for your listeners, the
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heat contained in 14 Hiroshima bombs per second is building
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up on the planet. Much of that has gone into
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the ocean. The lid is blowing off that kettle now,
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as we have the, quote, Godzilla El Nino shaping up.
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And we have the polar caps completely imploding. We're very near, perhaps...
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A dual BOE, dual blue ocean events, that means the
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polar ice is lost. That reflectivity is lost. That means
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90% of the sun's incoming thermal energy is absorbed by
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the dark ocean as opposed to reflected by the white ice.
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That's a feedback loop. The more ice that's lost, the
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more heat builds up, the faster the ice is lost,
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and that's exactly what's happening. Second major feedback loop, methane
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hydrate and clathrate expulsions, and about 1,100 new seeps have
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just been discovered off the east coast of the U.S.
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Those are new headlines. But we know the falling and
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releasing of large seafloor methane deposits have been happening for decades.
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That's the Bermuda Triangle scenario. Bermuda Triangle, that region, we
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know what's sinking the ships intact because when these large
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methane fields release, they tend to release in their entirety.
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This column of methane aerates the water column completely. If
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there's a surface vessel anywhere in that region, it has
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no buoyancy. It goes to the bottom intact. Methane then
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migrates into the atmosphere, begins to spread out and cover
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the planet like a layer of glass. Methane over a
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10-year time horizon, you don't hear this talked about much.
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It's 120 times more effective at trapping heat than CO2.
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And what do you hear the science community saying? They say, oh,
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it's 20 times more potent. That sounds bad. That is bad.
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But that's over a 100-year time horizon. We don't have
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100 years. So, again, the gravity of what's unfolding is
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not being grasped by almost anyone at this point.
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Welcome, Gary, to The Other Side of Midnight, 800-848-9222. We're
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talking with Dane Wigington, scientist, expert on atmospheric deterioration and
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the timeline for the end of the planet.
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Gary, welcome. Thank you. Great show, great show. Love listening
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to you. Dane, my question would be, it seems like
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so many things are turning into The government has to.
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The scientists know. We went through the Al Gore here,
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and now what you're telling me, my initial reaction is,
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so who's going to get real? What do you do
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about this stuff? And why aren't they just putting a
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plan together to get so involved with, like, space companies
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to get us back out of here in an organized way?
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Well, I would think, Gary, that would be to assume
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that those in power are somehow benevolent, and I would
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argue that is not the case. They have one concern,
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and that's the preservation of their own power, even if
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they only have ashes to rule over. And we know
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that from psychoanalysis. We're not guessing. Power is an addiction,
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perhaps the most intense addiction, and literally from the psychoanalysis
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manual of those in positions of power, the vast majority
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have a common trait, and that trait is this, the
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near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences of
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their actions, even to themselves. That's why they detonate 2,400
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nuclear bombs, which contaminated the whole planet. That's why they
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detonated hydrogen bombs in the magnetosphere that Project Starfish Prime
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and Project Fishbowl, they thought could collapse the entire atmosphere,
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but they did it anyway. We're not dealing with sanity.
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It's a headless, heartless, soulless cancer. Does a cancer intend
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to kill its host? No. It intends to proliferate unchecked.
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Host eventually dies. And we are in that category. And sadly,
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the vast majority of the population, because those in power
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couldn't do what they do without the active or passive
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support of the majority population. And we have the majority
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of the population, especially in first world nations, they're all
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too happy to go along with the carbon fuel carnival,
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ignore climate engineering, a.k.a. weather, chemical, biological warfare raging in
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our skies. They don't want to know. They don't want
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to know. They'd rather keep their heads in the sand
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until the moment of impact. And I would argue that's
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a pretty poor position, especially for a parent that claims
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to care about their posterity.
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Dane Wigington is the founder and lead researcher for geoengineeringwatch.org,
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one of the world's largest independent investigations into climate modification operations. Now,
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he has a background in energy engineering, solar power, wildlife
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and forest resilience research. He has spent more than two
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decades documenting aerosol spraying, ionospheric heaters, cloud seeding, RF weather modulation,
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and the expanding infrastructure of atmospheric intervention. He's a busy
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and an important guy. Dane, the first time I experienced
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atmospheric tampering that I was a very young kid, and
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I'm like, this isn't right. This is just wrong, what
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they're doing. Do you know about the DDT spraying at
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the Jersey Shore year after year? Do you know about that?
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I know a bit about the DDT scenario in general, yeah.
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I mean, they.
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I've seen the videos of them spraying kids at public pools,
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and the mantra was DDT, good for you and me,
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while kids are frolicking around in big clouds of DDT.
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I've seen that.
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We would sit, many families would sit on picnic tables
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in parks as they were spraying DDT while they were eating. Now, fortunately,
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I was blessed with a father who had been a
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major in biology and who had worked in the Merck
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lab and the Bristol Myers Labs, and worked at Bell
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Telephone Laboratories. The minute that was coming, we went inside.
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We shut the windows. We weren't going to be out there.
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He knew. But most people sat outside and viewed it
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as a great public service that they were being sprayed
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with DDT.
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Isn't that shocking?
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Yes.
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Two things to add to that. To show the lack
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of public, or far too many people, lack of any
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sense of self-survival, I saw an experiment, and I have
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an edition on the DDT Part 2, but I saw
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an experiment where there were 30 people, 29 of which
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knew it was an experiment, one that didn't. They had
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a meeting in a conference room in a hotel. They
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turned the smoke alarms on. They're all looking at their
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computers doing whatever they're doing. Smoke alarms on. They start
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pouring smoke into the room. The one person that didn't
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know it was an experiment stood up. Obviously, anybody that
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wants to survive would probably stand up and leave the room, right?
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But nobody else flinched. Nobody. She kept looking around. Nobody moved.
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She eventually sat back down in a room full of
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smoke with a fire alarm going and pretended nothing was wrong.
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That's truly shocking behavior, alarming behavior. And as far as
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the DDT goes, we know they got rid of a
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lot of it. There's a DDT dump that the government
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covertly established, actually there's 18 we know of now, but
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off the coast of the L.A. harbor in the Catalina Channel,
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half a million barrels of DDT on the seafloor. They
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were dumping it at night over the course of about
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two decades, and now they've found a total of 18 sites,
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DDT dump sites, and these barrels, of course, are deteriorating, rusting,
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and releasing. And I found that out even in the
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late 80s by talking to a state biologist. I spent
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a lot of time diving. I've been diving since I
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was 14, Channel Islands, that's in the Catalina Channel or
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on the other side of it, in what I thought
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was pristine regions, and he told me off the record,
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don't eat those fish. This is in the 80s. So
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I knew something was wrong, and we waited and looked
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and searched, and finally a biologist with some courage that
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had an underwater remote vehicle went down there and found
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what they knew was there.
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Dane Wigington, a scientist explaining our future, atmospheric pollution, atmospheric tampering,
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As of today, in your opinion, Dane, how much weather
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tampering is taking place by the United States or other countries?
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Is this chronic, something that's always taking place in China?
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Are they always engineering their weather? Do we always engineer
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our weather, or is it spotty? Are we really not
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that good at it?
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Well, not that good at it would depend on the objective.
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We have no natural weather. There's zero natural weather at
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this point. Wait. Hold on. Hold on.
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Dane, hold on.
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Say that again nice and slow.
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There is no natural weather on planet Earth at this point.
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It is so completely derailed. When we look at upper-level
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wind current patterns, it looks like a foreign planet now.
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I mean, there's no coherence to anything. And people are
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familiar with the butterfly effect. Butterfly flaps its wings in Brazil.
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Tornado happens in Kansas. We're talking about so many pushing
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and pulling on this equation at this point, and even
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former intergovernmental cooperation in these programs, which you have to have.
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You can't just geoengineer over your own country without affecting
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the entire planet. So let's all just put our fingers
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in the pie. That's what they did. We have a U.S.
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Senate document, 800 pages long, posted at geoengineerwatch.org, going back
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almost 50 years, outlining the scope and scale of these operations.
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Even then, the public record's there. We've highlighted the important
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spots in that document. And in that document specifically citing, quote,
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intergovernmental cooperation, even between, quote, otherwise adversarial nations because of
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the cross-border ramifications. We had pictures of U.S. scientists, weather scientists,
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in the Soviet Union during the peak of the Cold War.
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And they're scientists here. I mean, it's ludicrous that people
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don't think this is going on. We had Lyndon Johnson.
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We have him on film. The first 30 seconds of
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our weekly broadcast at geoengineeringwatch.org. He's on film on the record.
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ranting like a lunatic in 1962 saying we had the
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power to control the world's cloud layer then, and he
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who controls the weather controls the world. I mean, there's
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so much data. People don't even believe what they see
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with their own eyes. The skies look like something from
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a science fiction movie. And as long as they're told
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it's okay, go on. Nothing to see here. The vast
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majority are like the woman in the room I just described.
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Smoke in the room, fire alarm. Nobody reacts, so she
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doesn't either. Most people are in that category right now. Climate.
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Expert, Dane Wigington, coming up in just seconds, I want
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to ask you, is most of the manipulation of our weather,
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of our planet, from governments or from for-profit corporations? I
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mentioned about my dad. My dad was one of the
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great naturalists. And he was concerned when we started to
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send men and machines into space. And he was concerned
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about that because he said, do you understand The delicate
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balance of our Earth. When we send things into space,
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we are changing the weight of the Earth. And he
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thought about it to that degree, that this is so delicate.
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You start sending things into space, you're changing the weight
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of the Earth. I found that amazing even as a child.
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The other thing I found amazing as a child, Dane,
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is how could the grown-ups not know that a nuclear
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blast in the middle of the desert was not a
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good idea?
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Well, yeah, how could they not know? It wasn't a
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good idea. You're lucky to have the father you have.
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He was much more on top of the rest of society,
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wasn't he? Before we went to the break, you mentioned
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a very important question of the difference between localized, publicized, private,
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cloud-seeding operations... And profit. And for profit in militaries. We're
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talking about two completely different animals here. So... We know
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that geoengineering is absolutely DOD-run operations, period. It cannot be otherwise. Localized,
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publicized cloud-seating operations, to compare those two would be like
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comparing an ant to an elephant. Localized cloud-seating aircraft, single-engine
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propeller-driven plane generally, or even a drone sometimes that carries
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even smaller payload, but even the plane can only carry
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a few dozen pounds. They're dispersed from players. A military
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tanker can carry a little south of 100 tons. I mean,
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it's impossible to compare these two. And based on hundreds
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of lab tests in Minnesota with University of Minnesota and
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extrapolating the amount of materials in the precipitation, calculating what
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the global dispersion would be over that state, projecting that globally,
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it appears that something in the range of 40 to
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60 million tons of nanoparticles are being dispersed annually. So, again,
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this is a climate engineering– Manhattan Project, and in translation,
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it's weather, chemical, and biological warfare. All these elements are toxic.
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They're synergistically toxic. In the case of aluminum and mercury,
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for example, we have a peer-reviewed study that both highly
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toxic metals, when combined, the overall toxicity goes up again exponentially.
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So it's a wonder any of us are walking and
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talking at this point. We have peer-reviewed studies, for example,
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in the case of the bees. Most people know the
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bees are disappearing. They know that, but they don't seem
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to care that And it's way worse than they think,
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way worse than we're being told. So we were told
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this year the collapse was about 70% of honeybee populations
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in the continental 48. That sounds really catastrophic, but it's worse,
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because that was a 70% collapse of the 20% that remained.
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We're down to single-digit populations of pollinators, and nobody seems
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to care. And we have peer-reviewed study, and there's a
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lot of things killing the bees. We're not denying that.
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There's farm chemicals, frequency transmissions, but... What's not being mentioned? Oh, aluminum,
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bioavailable aluminum contamination is so bad in the bees because
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it's settling on the flowers, the pollen, that they are
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exhibiting symptoms, and this comes right from the science published report,
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they're exhibiting symptoms that resemble Alzheimer's and dementia in a
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human being. They can't even find their way back to
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the hives. How soon until that happens to us and
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we can't even find our way home? Because people are
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definitely getting dumber by the day. We know that. There's
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a lot of reasons for that, but we have studies.
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stating now in the U.S. that in the last generation,
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IQs have dropped six to nine points, not to mention
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skyrocketing neurological everything, which we would expect from these metals.
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Dane, if a private corporation wants to cloud seed, affect
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the atmosphere, do they need permission from a government, or
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can they do whatever they want?
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They need to fill out a permit in most cases
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in most states, but there's no real approval. process. There's
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no EIR, environmental impact report. So they basically do what
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they want. But it's basically, compared to the backdrop of geoengineering,
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it's basically meaningless. And the reason they let them do
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this is because they want to blur the line between
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the ant and the elephant. Look here, don't look there.
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Pay no attention to that military tanker in the sky
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dumping 100 tons in a payload or a little south
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of that. And I think we talked about which militaries
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or what size they would be here that The U.S.
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military has three times more aerial tankers than all other
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militaries in the world combined. They are certainly the largest player,
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but countries around the globe are being actively and passively
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forced to participate. The COP climate conferences, the international climate
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conferences where we have, you know, oil executives running a conference,
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you know, no conflict of interest there, right? And behind
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closed doors, that's what these conferences are about. They're about
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forcing countries to participate actively or passively. And it's not
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about changing business as usual. Not at all.
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Dane Wigington, geoengineeringwatch.org. That's his website. You can learn more
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about him, his organization, what you and I can do,
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what you and I need to be aware of in
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the atmosphere, in our future, of our planet. geoengineeringwatch.org. Dane Wigington,
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thank you for being on the other side of midnight.
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Thank you, Walter. Thank you so much for your articulateness
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and for giving a voice to this issue. Thank you, brother.
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Did you accuse me of being articulate? Thank you so much.
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Oh, I absolutely did. I don't say that lightly.
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Thank you. Well, now you're a brilliant man. You're just
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a brilliant man. Thanks very much.
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Dane Wigington. Welcome to The Other Side of Midnight. Dane
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is a lead researcher, one of the world's largest independent
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investigations into climate modification operations. He has a background in
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energy engineering, solar power, wildlife and forest resilience research, spent
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more than two decades documenting aerosol spraying, ionosphere heaters, cloud seeding,
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RF weather modulation, and the expanding infrastructure of atmospheric intervention.
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A lot of very big words for people screwing around
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with our climate. Dane, welcome to the show.
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Thank you very much to WABC for continuing to address
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this issue that many are finally waking up to, but
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not fast enough.
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The good news for you and me is we're on many, many,
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many radio stations. In addition to WABC, we're on KMOX
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in St. Louis, WGN in Chicago, other giant radio stations,
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Talk 910 in Detroit. You're heard throughout America right now.
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And I agree with you. It's a very important thing
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to discuss because the biggest obstacle you have in discussing
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atmospheric interference by humans is is convincing most people that
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it actually is happening because there's no press release coming
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out saying, yes, we are interfering with the atmosphere, no
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need to worry. There's no official statement. There's nothing from NASA,
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the federal government, the Canadian government. Nobody is saying, yes,
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this is actually going. Those contrails, no, that's not exhaust
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from jets. That's actual chemicals affecting our atmosphere, our crops,
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how well we breathe, everything. Explain to us why you
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know it's true that there's endless tampering with our atmosphere.
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Where would I start? We have mountains of data, government documents,
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presidential documents. We, GeoengineeringWatch.org, took a National Oceanic and Atmospheric
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Administration flying lab with top scientists in it from Rinser
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Polytechnic to sample what heavy aircraft were emitting in our atmosphere,
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found exactly what we knew we would find, geoengineering elements
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starting with aluminum nanoparticles, That's a bioavailable free-form aluminum, which
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doesn't exist naturally in nature. It's a primary element named
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in climate-adjusting patents. We've done virtually hundreds and hundreds of
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lab tests across the country, many others around the world.
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We did 500 lab tests with the University of Minnesota,
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confirming these elements in our precipitation. If it's in the rain,
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it's in everything else. And my God, it is truly
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perplexing to me that people can't look at the skies
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and know something is radically, radically wrong. It's exactly what's
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stated by the climate science community, what they want to do,
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but jets in the sky to spray particles that will
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white out the sky, disrupt the hydrological cycle, leave trails
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in every direction. They describe everything we see, but then
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they say, well, we're not seeing what we're seeing. And
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they lie all the way along. I know HAARP was
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mentioned before, I think before the break happened, and some
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things we didn't discuss last time on HAARP, the type
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of sleight of hand that goes on. They can't afford
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these issues to come to light, can they? That would
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be the pitchforks and torches moment. The liability issues would
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be absolutely incalculable. It would overturn the entire paradigm. So
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we're given sleight of hand, for example, with HAARP as
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people begin to wake up to that in 2014. They
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pretended they were going to take it down, and they said,
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that's proof that this is not a weapon of mass destruction. Look,
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we're going to tear it down. We said at GeoGeoWatch.org,
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never going to happen. They're never going to touch that facility.
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They never did. They just did a sleight of hand
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change of management and pretended. I'm looking at an NPR
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story right now from 2014. Bye-bye to the home of
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the favorite Internet conspiracy theory. Like, HAARP was going to
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go away, and that proved it was a conspiracy theory. Nope,
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never went anywhere. So I'm saying that it's getting ludicrous
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at this point. It's getting ludicrous. Did you see Robert F.
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Kennedy last week at an event? Gave his same dog
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and pony show response of, we're going to look into, quote, chemtrails.
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That is exactly right. That is all he said. And
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he knows not to use that term. He knows that.
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two fairly extensive off-air conversations with him at different points.
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that's why he's using it. Just like Lee Zeldin, head
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of EPA, pretended, we're going to be very transparent, and
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we're going to look into this. Oh, here's our website,
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just condensation, nothing to see here, move along. It's absolutely
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ludicrous that people ignore their sense of reason and logic.
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totally out of any commercial air corridor routes sky completely
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past plastered total covered sky with aerosols and and we're
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told this isn't happening it's becoming ludicrous this issue is
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going to come to light a whole lot of people
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are going to have a whole lot of explaining to
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All right dane how is it going to come to
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light And when we look at the sky, let me
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put this in perspective, because you look at the sky,
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you study this data all day, every day, you are
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in the best sense, and I thank you for this,
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obsessed with this. However, you and I are at the
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moment also talking to people who have to pick up
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their kid at school. We have to get that project done.
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Winter's coming. Oh, the furnace is making noise. There's a
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strange sound underneath the hood of the car. There are
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so many things that day to day we deal with. Oh, geez,
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I can't believe how much that gallon of milk costs.
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gas costs. There are many, many distractions from a very
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important phenomena that needs our attention. But we have a
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lot of distractions when we look at the sky. What
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should I look at for my 90 seconds that I
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get to look at the sky? And then what positive
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actions can I take to support your initiatives?
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Well, first, those are all exceptionally important and accurate points
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you bring up. That's very, very true, and I do
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recognize that. I think it's going to be a bigger
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distraction when people go to the market and find food
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shales empty, and we are hurtling toward that point. And
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I'm not hanging that all around the neck of climate
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engineering or although a great deal of it, in fact,
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far more than people would imagine, the blame belongs in
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that arena. And when there's not enough to eat, there's
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going to be a whole lot more people paying attention
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because we know these elements are virtually sterilizing soils that
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are already radically depleted. Bioavailable aluminum is toxic to all
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life forms, period. It's killing soil microbiome. It's affecting root systems.
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causes nutrient uptake shutdown. And the lies were fed also,
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and this affects people's ability to buy food, which they
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won't have any option but to pay attention to. We're
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told the ozone layer is getting better. We're told that
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every year. It's getting better, better, better. But oops, this
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year we just had a headline, whole blows in the
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ozone layer over Antarctica. We know it's radically thinning everywhere
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because we hired probably the world's top Ozone or UV
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metering expert supplied him with state-of-the-art equipment. We're getting UVC
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in the surface. It's a blatant, glaring lie. They're not
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even metering for UVC. They don't even look for it.
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How can you dispose what you're not looking for? People
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should feel the sun searing their skin. It's incredibly hot.
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It's burning the cambium layer off of trees. It's scorching
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crowns of trees. It's mind-numbing that people can ignore that.
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And we just got articles this week from UK Guardian,
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Planetary Boundaries. necessary for flourishing of life have been massively breached,
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scientists warn. Well, we stated at Geoengineering Watch.org from day one,
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the state of the climate and the environment is not
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as bad as we're being told, even by people like
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Al Gore. It's way worse. Way worse. And we see
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that every week now. Scientists saying, oh my God, it's
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way worse than we thought. So now they're admitting, and
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they're doing this so they don't panic the herd, and
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geoengineering is used to keep that or that deceptive division
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going by engineering snowstorms in New Orleans while it's raining
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in the Arctic, literally. But we would argue, this article
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reports that seven of the nine primary planetary life support
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systems have been breached. We would argue that's not true.
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All nine have been radically breached, but the only two
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they say have not been breached is the ozone layer
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deterioration and atmospheric aerosol loading. Both colossal lies. Yep, go ahead.
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Dan Wiginton, a scientist on the atmosphere. You mentioned there
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are nine, what did you say, nine what?
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They're called planetary boundaries. Planetary boundaries.
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Wait, wait.
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Planetary boundaries. Bore me. Could you list the nine planetary boundaries?
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And you're saying they've all been breached. What are they?
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There's, we have the ozone layer is one. We have
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the stratospheric ozone depletion, atmospheric aerosol loading. We have the
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hydrological cycle.
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I didn't mean to stump you. I didn't mean to
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stump you. I figured that these were.
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I mean, all my boundaries, I don't... That's okay.
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That's all right.
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puts us in great danger. I'm going to ask one
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more stupid question. They put us in great danger of what?
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Omnicide. Planetary omnicide. How does a planet continue if... The
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primary life support pillars have all been breached. Here we go. Okay.
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Danger zone. Planetary boundaries. One. Climate change. Two. Change in
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biosphere integrity. There's a lot of other lines we can
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fill in under that one. Land system change. Freshwater change.
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Modifications of biochemical flows. Introduction of novel entities. There's a
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lot of other blanks that can go under that. Ocean acidification.
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That's the seventh that was just added. what they're omitting,
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ozone depletion and atmospheric aerosol loading, which is absolute nonsense.
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We have so many aerosols in the atmosphere now. That's
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where the term global dimming came from, and that's what
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brought me into this issue, Walter, because I have an
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off-grid home with the cover article of the world's largest
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renewable energy magazine, and I was losing 50% of my
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solar uptake from whatever these aircraft were emitting. That can't
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be just, quote, condensation or jet exhaust, right? And when
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I began to test my precipitation, as we may have
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discussed earlier at our earlier exchange, I didn't want to
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find geoengineering elements, and it's starting with aluminum, and I did.
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I continued to test. I continued to research for 18
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months before I spoke out about any of this. But
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by my final test, there was about 3,450 parts per
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billion of aluminum in my rain. And again... They're simply lying,
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and we know this. I've been in high-level EPA meetings
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in Sacramento. Five top California EPA officials, meaning arranged by
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a congressional rep, told the entire system is rigged, told
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to my face, that they test for combustion particulates only,
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generally PM10, which is a boulder compared to a nanoparticle,
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so the rest goes completely unreported and completely under the radar.
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Completely rigged system, because they cannot afford people to wake
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up to what's happening in our skies.
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Dane Wigington, if you'd like to chat with him, that
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would be great. The phone number is 800-848-9222, 800-848-9222. Timetable,
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you say that these nine veils of safety have all
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been breached, that our atmosphere is deteriorating at a remarkable rate. Dane,
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do you have a timetable as to when You and
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I are going to feel this on a daily basis
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when you and I are going to be in trouble,
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when you and I are going to have to live
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in lead-lined rooms.
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Well, if anybody looks at headlines from around the globe,
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there's about four to five dozen countries right now that
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are heading into Mad Max scenarios, literally. And we're seeing
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crop collapse here, fisheries collapse here. And I can tell you...
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What the polar scientists are saying right now, and I
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know a couple of them that don't have the courage
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to admit to this issue, even though they know about it,
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they don't want to lose their paychecks, their pensions, their grants.
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the feedback loops that have been triggered, about 50, 50
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feedback loops, which means once triggered, it feeds on itself
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and we're in a runaway scenario. We are right now.
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So the polar scientists right now are stating that we
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could see a six to eight degree C rise in
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global temperatures by the end of this decade. If that happens,
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we're done. And they've stated that on the record, that
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by the end of this decade, we could face near
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planetary extinction and certainly the end of the human race.
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And now it's interesting, Walter, you just saw the AI,
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I'm sure you've been following that, that some of the
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top AI people have stated by the end of, this decade,
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we could have serious AI problems, right? So now we have,
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now we know that AI, and we discovered this at geoengineeringwatch.org,
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our weekly global alert news broadcast, political, non-political, no advertisements,
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but we know AI is involved with climate engineering. What
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a surprise. So it's truly converging cataclysms at this point.
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And what people don't understand, and this is key, Einstein
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made mention of this as a human fault, the inability
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to understand the exponential equation, and we are most definitely
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in one right now.
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Define that for me, because I was an English major.
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When we have feedback loops that increase the rate of change,
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many deviations from normal... The rate of change is incalculable,
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and we're there. So let me give two big feedback loops.
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The planet's albedo is being lost. It's reflectivity, which allows
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it to retain its energy balance. It's being lost radically fast.
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The planet's natural cloud production processes are deteriorating rapidly, most
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rapidly in equatorial zones, but it's spreading north, now in south.
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planet's energy balance has been completely skewed The energy buildup
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on the planet right now is the thermal energy equivalent
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of about 14 Hiroshima bombs per second. That means the heat,
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I know you know this, but for your listeners, the
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heat contained in 14 Hiroshima bombs per second is building
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up on the planet. Much of that has gone into
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the ocean. The lid is blowing off that kettle now,
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as we have the, quote, Godzilla El Nino shaping up.
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And we have the polar caps completely imploding. We're very near, perhaps...
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A dual BOE, dual blue ocean events, that means the
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polar ice is lost. That reflectivity is lost. That means
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90% of the sun's incoming thermal energy is absorbed by
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the dark ocean as opposed to reflected by the white ice.
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That's a feedback loop. The more ice that's lost, the
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more heat builds up, the faster the ice is lost,
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and that's exactly what's happening. Second major feedback loop, methane
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hydrate and clathrate expulsions, and about 1,100 new seeps have
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just been discovered off the east coast of the U.S.
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Those are new headlines. But we know the falling and
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releasing of large seafloor methane deposits have been happening for decades.
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That's the Bermuda Triangle scenario. Bermuda Triangle, that region, we
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know what's sinking the ships intact because when these large
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methane fields release, they tend to release in their entirety.
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This column of methane aerates the water column completely. If
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there's a surface vessel anywhere in that region, it has
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no buoyancy. It goes to the bottom intact. Methane then
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migrates into the atmosphere, begins to spread out and cover
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the planet like a layer of glass. Methane over a
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10-year time horizon, you don't hear this talked about much.
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It's 120 times more effective at trapping heat than CO2.
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it's 20 times more potent. That sounds bad. That is bad.
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100 years. So, again, the gravity of what's unfolding is
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not being grasped by almost anyone at this point.
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Welcome, Gary, to The Other Side of Midnight, 800-848-9222. We're
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talking with Dane Wigington, scientist, expert on atmospheric deterioration and
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the timeline for the end of the planet.
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Gary, welcome. Thank you. Great show, great show. Love listening
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to you. Dane, my question would be, it seems like
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so many things are turning into The government has to.
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The scientists know. We went through the Al Gore here,
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and now what you're telling me, my initial reaction is,
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so who's going to get real? What do you do
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about this stuff? And why aren't they just putting a
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plan together to get so involved with, like, space companies
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to get us back out of here in an organized way?
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Well, I would think, Gary, that would be to assume
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that those in power are somehow benevolent, and I would
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argue that is not the case. They have one concern,
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and that's the preservation of their own power, even if
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they only have ashes to rule over. And we know
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that from psychoanalysis. We're not guessing. Power is an addiction,
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perhaps the most intense addiction, and literally from the psychoanalysis
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manual of those in positions of power, the vast majority
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have a common trait, and that trait is this, the
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near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences of
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their actions, even to themselves. That's why they detonate 2,400
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nuclear bombs, which contaminated the whole planet. That's why they
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detonated hydrogen bombs in the magnetosphere that Project Starfish Prime
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and Project Fishbowl, they thought could collapse the entire atmosphere,
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but they did it anyway. We're not dealing with sanity.
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It's a headless, heartless, soulless cancer. Does a cancer intend
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to kill its host? No. It intends to proliferate unchecked.
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Host eventually dies. And we are in that category. And sadly,
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the vast majority of the population, because those in power
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couldn't do what they do without the active or passive
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support of the majority population. And we have the majority
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of the population, especially in first world nations, they're all
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too happy to go along with the carbon fuel carnival,
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ignore climate engineering, a.k.a. weather, chemical, biological warfare raging in
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our skies. They don't want to know. They don't want
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to know. They'd rather keep their heads in the sand
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until the moment of impact. And I would argue that's
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a pretty poor position, especially for a parent that claims
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to care about their posterity.
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Dane Wigington is the founder and lead researcher for geoengineeringwatch.org,
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one of the world's largest independent investigations into climate modification operations. Now,
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he has a background in energy engineering, solar power, wildlife
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and forest resilience research. He has spent more than two
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decades documenting aerosol spraying, ionospheric heaters, cloud seeding, RF weather modulation,
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and the expanding infrastructure of atmospheric intervention. He's a busy
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and an important guy. Dane, the first time I experienced
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atmospheric tampering that I was a very young kid, and
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I'm like, this isn't right. This is just wrong, what
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they're doing. Do you know about the DDT spraying at
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the Jersey Shore year after year? Do you know about that?
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I know a bit about the DDT scenario in general, yeah.
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I mean, they.
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I've seen the videos of them spraying kids at public pools,
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and the mantra was DDT, good for you and me,
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while kids are frolicking around in big clouds of DDT.
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I've seen that.
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We would sit, many families would sit on picnic tables
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in parks as they were spraying DDT while they were eating. Now, fortunately,
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I was blessed with a father who had been a
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major in biology and who had worked in the Merck
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lab and the Bristol Myers Labs, and worked at Bell
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Telephone Laboratories. The minute that was coming, we went inside.
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We shut the windows. We weren't going to be out there.
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He knew. But most people sat outside and viewed it
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as a great public service that they were being sprayed
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with DDT.
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Isn't that shocking?
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Yes.
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Two things to add to that. To show the lack
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of public, or far too many people, lack of any
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sense of self-survival, I saw an experiment, and I have
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an edition on the DDT Part 2, but I saw
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an experiment where there were 30 people, 29 of which
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knew it was an experiment, one that didn't. They had
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a meeting in a conference room in a hotel. They
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turned the smoke alarms on. They're all looking at their
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computers doing whatever they're doing. Smoke alarms on. They start
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pouring smoke into the room. The one person that didn't
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know it was an experiment stood up. Obviously, anybody that
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wants to survive would probably stand up and leave the room, right?
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She eventually sat back down in a room full of
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smoke with a fire alarm going and pretended nothing was wrong.
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That's truly shocking behavior, alarming behavior. And as far as
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the DDT goes, we know they got rid of a
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lot of it. There's a DDT dump that the government
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covertly established, actually there's 18 we know of now, but
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off the coast of the L.A. harbor in the Catalina Channel,
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half a million barrels of DDT on the seafloor. They
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were dumping it at night over the course of about
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two decades, and now they've found a total of 18 sites,
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DDT dump sites, and these barrels, of course, are deteriorating, rusting,
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and releasing. And I found that out even in the
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late 80s by talking to a state biologist. I spent
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a lot of time diving. I've been diving since I
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was 14, Channel Islands, that's in the Catalina Channel or
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on the other side of it, in what I thought
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was pristine regions, and he told me off the record,
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don't eat those fish. This is in the 80s. So
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I knew something was wrong, and we waited and looked
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and searched, and finally a biologist with some courage that
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had an underwater remote vehicle went down there and found
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what they knew was there.
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Dane Wigington, a scientist explaining our future, atmospheric pollution, atmospheric tampering,
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As of today, in your opinion, Dane, how much weather
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tampering is taking place by the United States or other countries?
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Is this chronic, something that's always taking place in China?
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Are they always engineering their weather? Do we always engineer
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our weather, or is it spotty? Are we really not
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that good at it?
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Well, not that good at it would depend on the objective.
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We have no natural weather. There's zero natural weather at
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this point. Wait. Hold on. Hold on.
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Dane, hold on.
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Say that again nice and slow.
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There is no natural weather on planet Earth at this point.
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It is so completely derailed. When we look at upper-level
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wind current patterns, it looks like a foreign planet now.
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I mean, there's no coherence to anything. And people are
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familiar with the butterfly effect. Butterfly flaps its wings in Brazil.
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Tornado happens in Kansas. We're talking about so many pushing
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and pulling on this equation at this point, and even
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former intergovernmental cooperation in these programs, which you have to have.
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You can't just geoengineer over your own country without affecting
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the entire planet. So let's all just put our fingers
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in the pie. That's what they did. We have a U.S.
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Senate document, 800 pages long, posted at geoengineerwatch.org, going back
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almost 50 years, outlining the scope and scale of these operations.
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Even then, the public record's there. We've highlighted the important
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spots in that document. And in that document specifically citing, quote,
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intergovernmental cooperation, even between, quote, otherwise adversarial nations because of
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the cross-border ramifications. We had pictures of U.S. scientists, weather scientists,
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in the Soviet Union during the peak of the Cold War.
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And they're scientists here. I mean, it's ludicrous that people
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don't think this is going on. We had Lyndon Johnson.
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We have him on film. The first 30 seconds of
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our weekly broadcast at geoengineeringwatch.org. He's on film on the record.
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ranting like a lunatic in 1962 saying we had the
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power to control the world's cloud layer then, and he
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who controls the weather controls the world. I mean, there's
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so much data. People don't even believe what they see
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with their own eyes. The skies look like something from
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a science fiction movie. And as long as they're told
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it's okay, go on. Nothing to see here. The vast
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majority are like the woman in the room I just described.
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Smoke in the room, fire alarm. Nobody reacts, so she
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doesn't either. Most people are in that category right now. Climate.
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Expert, Dane Wigington, coming up in just seconds, I want
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to ask you, is most of the manipulation of our weather,
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of our planet, from governments or from for-profit corporations? I
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mentioned about my dad. My dad was one of the
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great naturalists. And he was concerned when we started to
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send men and machines into space. And he was concerned
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about that because he said, do you understand The delicate
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balance of our Earth. When we send things into space,
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we are changing the weight of the Earth. And he
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thought about it to that degree, that this is so delicate.
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You start sending things into space, you're changing the weight
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of the Earth. I found that amazing even as a child.
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The other thing I found amazing as a child, Dane,
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is how could the grown-ups not know that a nuclear
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blast in the middle of the desert was not a
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good idea?
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Well, yeah, how could they not know? It wasn't a
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good idea. You're lucky to have the father you have.
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He was much more on top of the rest of society,
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wasn't he? Before we went to the break, you mentioned
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a very important question of the difference between localized, publicized, private,
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cloud-seeding operations... And profit. And for profit in militaries. We're
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talking about two completely different animals here. So... We know
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that geoengineering is absolutely DOD-run operations, period. It cannot be otherwise. Localized,
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publicized cloud-seating operations, to compare those two would be like
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comparing an ant to an elephant. Localized cloud-seating aircraft, single-engine
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propeller-driven plane generally, or even a drone sometimes that carries
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even smaller payload, but even the plane can only carry
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a few dozen pounds. They're dispersed from players. A military
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tanker can carry a little south of 100 tons. I mean,
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it's impossible to compare these two. And based on hundreds
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of lab tests in Minnesota with University of Minnesota and
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extrapolating the amount of materials in the precipitation, calculating what
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the global dispersion would be over that state, projecting that globally,
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it appears that something in the range of 40 to
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60 million tons of nanoparticles are being dispersed annually. So, again,
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this is a climate engineering– Manhattan Project, and in translation,
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it's weather, chemical, and biological warfare. All these elements are toxic.
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They're synergistically toxic. In the case of aluminum and mercury,
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for example, we have a peer-reviewed study that both highly
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toxic metals, when combined, the overall toxicity goes up again exponentially.
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So it's a wonder any of us are walking and
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talking at this point. We have peer-reviewed studies, for example,
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in the case of the bees. Most people know the
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bees are disappearing. They know that, but they don't seem
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to care that And it's way worse than they think,
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way worse than we're being told. So we were told
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this year the collapse was about 70% of honeybee populations
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in the continental 48. That sounds really catastrophic, but it's worse,
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because that was a 70% collapse of the 20% that remained.
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We're down to single-digit populations of pollinators, and nobody seems
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to care. And we have peer-reviewed study, and there's a
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lot of things killing the bees. We're not denying that.
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There's farm chemicals, frequency transmissions, but... What's not being mentioned? Oh, aluminum,
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bioavailable aluminum contamination is so bad in the bees because
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it's settling on the flowers, the pollen, that they are
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exhibiting symptoms, and this comes right from the science published report,
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they're exhibiting symptoms that resemble Alzheimer's and dementia in a
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human being. They can't even find their way back to
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the hives. How soon until that happens to us and
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we can't even find our way home? Because people are
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definitely getting dumber by the day. We know that. There's
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a lot of reasons for that, but we have studies.
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stating now in the U.S. that in the last generation,
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IQs have dropped six to nine points, not to mention
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skyrocketing neurological everything, which we would expect from these metals.
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Dane, if a private corporation wants to cloud seed, affect
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the atmosphere, do they need permission from a government, or
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can they do whatever they want?
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They need to fill out a permit in most cases
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in most states, but there's no real approval. process. There's
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no EIR, environmental impact report. So they basically do what
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they want. But it's basically, compared to the backdrop of geoengineering,
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it's basically meaningless. And the reason they let them do
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this is because they want to blur the line between
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the ant and the elephant. Look here, don't look there.
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Pay no attention to that military tanker in the sky
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dumping 100 tons in a payload or a little south
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of that. And I think we talked about which militaries
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or what size they would be here that The U.S.
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military has three times more aerial tankers than all other
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militaries in the world combined. They are certainly the largest player,
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but countries around the globe are being actively and passively
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forced to participate. The COP climate conferences, the international climate
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conferences where we have, you know, oil executives running a conference,
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you know, no conflict of interest there, right? And behind
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closed doors, that's what these conferences are about. They're about
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forcing countries to participate actively or passively. And it's not
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about changing business as usual. Not at all.
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Dane Wigington, geoengineeringwatch.org. That's his website. You can learn more
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about him, his organization, what you and I can do,
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what you and I need to be aware of in
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the atmosphere, in our future, of our planet. geoengineeringwatch.org. Dane Wigington,
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thank you for being on the other side of midnight.
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Thank you, Walter. Thank you so much for your articulateness
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and for giving a voice to this issue. Thank you, brother.
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Did you accuse me of being articulate? Thank you so much.
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Oh, I absolutely did. I don't say that lightly.
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Thank you. Well, now you're a brilliant man. You're just
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a brilliant man. Thanks very much.